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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2574178]Are you really sure that FKK started in 2001? Maybe this is the case, but prostitution became regulated in Germany later, and most of the clubs opened later. More clubs = more supply = prices decrease.
In 2001 I don't think that you could find sauna clubs in every Lander, scarcity=higher prices.[/QUOTE]I found FKK in 2009 and with my understanding, it as the shape we know it today began around 2005 ish, but something similar that is more messed up existed before that.
But! In 2006, I went to Zeus near Luzern and it was sauna club set up and it was as good as FKK now.
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So I've been reading the forum for awhile but never posted. I still don't understand if BBBJ is standard or not post COVID. Do girls in FKK give BBBJ for 50/30 is it rare for them to do so or not? There are so many conflicting posts on this and I just want a definite answer.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2574282]I found FKK in 2009 and with my understanding, it as the shape we know it today began around 2005 ish, but something similar that is more messed up existed before that.
But! In 2006, I went to Zeus near Luzern and it was sauna club set up and it was as good as FKK now.[/QUOTE]Bernd's was the first and that opened in 1982, it was years later when the big FKK's opened after more liberal regulations - 2001?
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[QUOTE=Zedlea123;2574309]So I've been reading the forum for awhile but never posted. I still don't understand if BBBJ is standard or not post COVID. Do girls in FKK give BBBJ for 50/30 is it rare for them to do so or not? There are so many conflicting posts on this and I just want a definite answer.[/QUOTE]You need to understand that the girls are self entrepreneur, they have the right to have their own price policy and service policy, with the new law of 2017 BBBJ is forbidden, but after all what happen is the room is between human beings and everything is possible. You don t buy a product with specs but time from a woman.
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[QUOTE=Downandup;2574400]Bernd's was the first and that opened in 1982, it was years later when the big FKK's opened after more liberal regulations - 2001?[/QUOTE]I think I read Sudfass in Frankfurt is even older? '70's or something?
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[QUOTE=Downandup;2574400]Bernd's was the first and that opened in 1982, it was years later when the big FKK's opened after more liberal regulations - 2001?[/QUOTE]Oh ok, I just googled Bernd's FKK and I found it and it seems to still exist if it is the same one. It does not look promising one, but I am glad the pioneer still exist to this day if it is the same one!
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[QUOTE=Zedlea123;2574309]So I've been reading the forum for awhile but never posted. I still don't understand if BBBJ is standard or not post COVID. Do girls in FKK give BBBJ for 50/30 is it rare for them to do so or not? There are so many conflicting posts on this and I just want a definite answer.[/QUOTE]Law change after summer 2017, and since then girls use it to upsell, but if you are lucky or in some clubs it still remain standard more or less like in GT and LR, it is still included in 50 euro most of time, all the time for me at least, but check with girls if BBBJ is included though to be sure.
Before 2017, in all FKK clubs, BBBJ was included in standard price, good old time LOL!
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[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2574275]And to the regular cheap charlies who keep on insisting on getting everything for 50 euros -- as many have said 50 euros today is worth much less than it was 15 years ago. Maybe you'll be happy if your company paid you 2005 wages? An even more important point is you have no right to tell people how to spend their money. If X wants to give a girl at an FKK club in Frankfurt 150 or 200 euros what is it to why. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen! Moreso as it spoils the atmosphere of these forums and is futile as no one is going to change their spending habits just because some cheap punks on ISG habitually complain![/QUOTE]A lot more than ISG. You can read the same complaints on local forums. Common complaints amongst locals is that tourists ruin the scene. Same reason why Venice residents want tourists out. Same for Amsterdam. San Francisco was a better town before all of the out of town tech money made it unaffordable. Same with LOS Angeles and now there are homeless villages. Locals of Seattle, Portland, Vancouver can't buy homes because international real estate companies buy up all of the property.
Same theme. Polite to not shit in your host's living room.
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[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2574275]If some people are so paranoid about clubs leaking their details just don't go to the clubs -- I am sure they'll survive without you but don't lecture us about being naive or stupid. There is no cure for paranoia.
And to the regular cheap charlies who keep on insisting on getting everything for 50 euros -- as many have said 50 euros today is worth much less than it was 15 years ago. Maybe you'll be happy if your company paid you 2005 wages? An even more important point is you have no right to tell people how to spend their money. If X wants to give a girl at an FKK club in Frankfurt 150 or 200 euros what is it to why. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen! Moreso as it spoils the atmosphere of these forums and is futile as no one is going to change their spending habits just because some cheap punks on ISG habitually complain![/QUOTE]This has already been answered: -Prostitute is not a formal professon. -What jobs in Germany pay 100 euros an hour?
They're lucky already with 50 for 30 minutes and it should stay that way. If you have problem with it, hire an escort.
Or better yet, stay the hell out of here and flash your millions in Zurich.
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2574486]This has already been answered: -Prostitute is not a formal professon. -What jobs in Germany pay 100 euros an hour?
They're lucky already with 50 for 30 minutes and it should stay that way. If you have problem with it, hire an escort.
Or better yet, stay the hell out of here and flash your millions in Zurich.[/QUOTE]Prostitutes are oldest profession LOL! And I think after summer 2017, prostitutes are formal profession in Germany officially. They have to register and pay taxes.
What jobs in Germany pay 100 euro per hour? Doctors and Lawyers earn more than 100 Euros per hour.
I do not flash my millions ub Zurich, but I flash my 140 chf per 30 min in globe, zurich LOL! And they served me well LOL!
I have nothing, but gratitude and appreciation for all young stunner prostitutes, they served me well and I am sure quite many of us mongers LOL! Right, young stunner prostitutes are not formal profession, but they are Royal profession for me, like thank you for making that rather not wise decision they made that ended up to serve my my sick hentai pleasure LOL!
As for older uglier plastic monsters, I guess they served some other guys, but not me LOL! They ain't for me LOL! They ain't worth 50 Euro, but for somebody, they must be worth 50 Euro, that is why they are there? Why they are worth 50 euro for somebody? Ask them? LOL! I don't know LOL! It must be their bad taste LOL!
50 Euro is power per 30 min in FKK LOL!
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I got 50's! I got 50's on them LOL!
50 Euro AKA Anal licking receiver at Artemis United LOL!
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2574486]This has already been answered: -Prostitute is not a formal profession. -What jobs in Germany pay 100 euros an hour? They're lucky already with 50 for 30 minutes and it should stay that way. If you have problem with it, hire an escort.[/QUOTE]I share that view. All of this talk about inflation blah, blah, blah. Well what if they were being overpaid from the get go? I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I don't know where some of you guys come from, but where I come from 50 euros per 30 minutes is some damn good money! Then throw in upcharges for different extras and they're bringing in even more. So make that an 8-hour day for 5 days a week, and we're talking 4000 euros a week or 192,000 euros a year! Give me a break! Compared to most anybody else, at 50 euros per 30 minutes they're being paid mighty handsomely already making arguments for increases unjustified in my view. Especially when you have far too many tutes who don't deliver the quality services that they promise to begin with, often leaving the paying monger on the short end of the bargain with little or no recourse for a full or even partial refund based on failure to deliver said services satisfactorily. [B]No[/B] "raises" for these tutes! Grievance petition denied!
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2574486]This has already been answered: -Prostitute is not a formal professon. -What jobs in Germany pay 100 euros an hour?.[/QUOTE]Agreed.
And don't forget that most of the girls who complain about the low price of the half hour are the ones who make only what, 3 or 4 30 minutes rooms on average? Instead of asking for a raise, maybe they should improve their service and / or their looks and show some respect to the customers. If the prices increases, they won't make 3 rooms anymore, but maybe one. They probably don't realize it, but if the prices increase, there won't be enough customers to support such an amount of WG in Germany and some of them will be back in Romania to stack some shelves in Lidl Bucharest.
The girls who spend every day at least 4 or 5 hours in a room are perfectly fine with 450 euros a day.
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2574486]This has already been answered: -Prostitute is not a formal professon. -What jobs in Germany pay 100 euros an hour?
They're lucky already with 50 for 30 minutes and it should stay that way. If you have problem with it, hire an escort.
Or better yet, stay the hell out of here and flash your millions in Zurich.[/QUOTE]He would've already moved on to Zurich if he had millions. These people who pay higher rates in German FKKs but can't afford the Swiss FKKs are like wannabe big rollers in Reno but can't afford to go to Monaco. Wannabe gangstas with fake gold chains without the real mafia guns LOL.
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[QUOTE=Zedlea123;2574309]So I've been reading the forum for awhile but never posted. I still don't understand if BBBJ is standard or not post COVID. Do girls in FKK give BBBJ for 50/30 is it rare for them to do so or not? There are so many conflicting posts on this and I just want a definite answer.[/QUOTE]Definite answer is Yes. Few, maybe 5-10% counting all girls from all German FKKs, may ask more, but I never ever paid extra for BBBJ. It's always part of the basic service 50 e /30 minutes in all German FKKs, and in few local German RTC clubs it's 30 e /30 minutes BBBJ and CFS or BBFS (AO). Rares didn't change post-Covid.