Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[QUOTE=Questner;2813196]We have enough ammo to bury everyone and everything several times in a row plus a bit more..... Don't forget we have a border and a railway into NK and have secured the military and technical agreement with PRC, an unprecedented one which has been in waiting for the long 45 years, and which can backstop any military effort.....
l):[/QUOTE]HOLD UP. LOL. This has to be the most hilarious straight faced satire I've ever read if you're honestly suggesting that North Korea and China will be the saviors of Russia. China is using tech from the 90's that barely works (and was stolen by the way). North Korea is using mostly tech from the 60's and has a few nuclear missiles that it can't even properly aim. Hell, the country can't even feed it's people.

I wish I could watch some of the Russian propaganda some time because these hot takes are just too much LOL.

[QUOTE=Questner;2813196]We have enough ammo to bury everyone and everything several times in a row plus a bit more.[/QUOTE]"We (Wagner) have only 10-15% of the shells that we need," he said, blaming the leadership of the Russian army. He spoke in an interview with Russian pro-Kremlin war correspondent Semyon Pegov".

[QUOTE]All the goals of the SMO are going to be achieved.[/QUOTE]"Prigozhin said he expected a Ukrainian counterattack in mid-May. "This counteroffensive could become a tragedy for our country," he said".

[QUOTE]The sanctions only propel the economy forward.
[/QUOTE]Except when it comes to tanks, which are being propelled backward (in time)!

[URL]https://eurasiantimes.com/russian-tanks-are-tanking-due-to-ukraine-war-report-reveals/[/URL]

"A recent report from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) analyzes the impact of sanctions on Russia's defense industry and its effect on the war in Ukraine".

"According to the report, Russia has lost between 1,845 to 3,511 tanks in Ukraine and is believed to hold roughly 5,000 tanks in reserve".

"This ultimately forced Russia to bring older Soviet-era tanks manufactured decades before Russia's military modernization program began in 2011".

Golly, gee! Where are all the CCP and NORK tanks?

[QUOTE]
It's highly irrelevant whatever any media posts, no one cares about it.[/QUOTE]Is it still irrelevant when a prominent figure in the Russian war effort, Prigozhin, gives an interview to Russian media? I bet the Russian MilBloggers care, and Girkin's Angry Patriots Club. In fact, I bet they're paying close attention to every word.

[URL]https://www.lemonde.fr/en/russia/article/2023/05/01/wagner-chief-says-ukraine-counterattack-could-be-tragedy-for-russia_6025013_140.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Questner;2813196]We have enough ammo to bury everyone and everything several times in a row plus a bit more. All the goals of the SMO are going to be achieved. Yes, there are and there were cases of mismanagement. With some brief interruptions mismanagement is a historical constant. It only leads to ingenuity and new levels of freedom to operate fast when needed. Don't forget we have a border and a railway into NK and have secured the military and technical agreement with PRC, an unprecedented one which has been in waiting for the long 45 years, and which can backstop any military effort. The sanctions only propel the economy forward.[/QUOTE]Who the fuck is "We"? Do you represent Putin's government in this monger forum? Is that what "you" are?

Hey, "you" have already lost. Sanctions are working. Your economy is already in the dumpster. You've gambled everything and lost. Your citizens will soon beat the hell out of each other in bread lines. Maybe it will take a year. Maybe two, if you're lucky. But you're getting there. Fast.

Say Hi to Evgeny Prigozhin, a former rapist who was made to suck dicks in prison for his sins. That's your next emperor.

[QUOTE=Questner;2813196]We have enough ammo to bury everyone and everything several times in a row plus a bit more.[/QUOTE]You will be subjugated and never again be any kind of world power. Resources plundered by the chinese, women fucked by them and men cleaning their pools.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/markets/tinder-owner-match-group-swipes-left-russia-pledging-exit-by-june-30-2023-05-02/[/URL]

"It's not a good look for a trusted brand to be continuing operations in a nation where the head of state has been indicted by the International Criminal Court" (real quote).

Off the record, Tinder CEO is reported to have said "It's impossible for Tinder to operate within a country that's so totally fucked!" (sarc quote).

[QUOTE=VinDici;2813286]You will be subjugated and never again be any kind of world power. Resources plundered by the chinese, women fucked by them and men cleaning their pools.[/QUOTE]Well, even though the days of the Russian Empire are numbered, any country with 6,000 nukes is destined to be some kind of world power, even if its future population is reduced to eating beets and shitting in outhouses.

The Russians have sold China 25 tons of enriched uranium, so it won't be long until China becomes the third nuclear mega-player in the world.

[URL]https://eurasiantimes.com/new-chinas-cfr-600-facility-boosted-by-russian-enriched-uranium[/URL]

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2813211]HOLD UP. LOL. This has to be the most hilarious straight faced satire I've ever read if you're honestly suggesting that North Korea and China will be the saviors of Russia. China is using tech from the 90's that barely works (and was stolen by the way). North Korea is using mostly tech from the 60's and has a few nuclear missiles that it can't even properly aim. Hell, the country can't even feed it's people.

I wish I could watch some of the Russian propaganda some time because these hot takes are just too much LOL.[/QUOTE]Here is my suggestion, watch 'The Battle of Chosin' here: [URL]https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/chosin/[/URL] and then have a coffee break with Mark Milley and laugh into his face.

We of course chose our Savior in the 9th Century AD.

Some daily routine from the Colonel: [URL]https://youtu.be/2Rkr3YGKF9A[/URL].

'Dear, take this poison! I don't want to wash the walls'.

[QUOTE=Questner;2813455]Here is my suggestion, watch 'The Battle of Chosin' here: [URL]https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/chosin/[/URL] and then have a coffee break with Mark Milley and laugh into his face.

We of course chose our Savior in the 9th Century AD.[/QUOTE]Take Putin's dick out of your mouth, and remove your hands from his asshole. Those two habits of yours perfectly explain why everything you post is incoherent bullshit.

Do you babble on like this in real life? If so, it must truly suck for anyone unlucky enough to be around you. Pathetic doesn't even begin to describe it.

[QUOTE=Questner;2813458]Some daily routine from the Colonel: [URL]https://youtu.be/2Rkr3YGKF9A[/URL].

'Dear, take this poison! I don't want to wash the walls'.[/QUOTE]Send more hapless peasants to die in my hopeless meat grinder of a war.

Ruin the future for generations of Russians.

Shit myself.

Get cleaned up.

Grovel on my knees before Master Xi.

Repeat the same hopeless, hapless, cycle all over again.

[QUOTE=Questner;2813196]We have enough ammo to bury everyone and everything several times in a row plus a bit more. All the goals of the SMO are going to be achieved. Yes, there are and there were cases of mismanagement. With some brief interruptions mismanagement is a historical constant. It only leads to ingenuity and new levels of freedom to operate fast when needed. Don't forget we have a border and a railway into NK and have secured the military and technical agreement with PRC, an unprecedented one which has been in waiting for the long 45 years, and which can backstop any military effort. The sanctions only propel the economy forward.[/QUOTE]My point in showing this was that if you look at both sides there is an issue with munitions. The key to me is if the West continues to supply Ukraine. I think JM has the idea that the West's goal was Ukrainian victory but I think it really was to weaken Russia. Hell, the Dems are still convinced that Putin was responsible for Trump and the 2016 victory. Yeah, Russia has North Korea, and North Korea buys from China so while the Chinese say they are not helping Russia too much, this could be a way around that.

Yeah, that Atlantic article is terribly wishful thinking IMO and love that pic of the ladies. LOL.

This is just my opinion but the Western nations seem to be getting a bit desperate:

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/murdochs-spoke-zelenskyy-weeks-firing-anti-war-host-tucker-carlson[/URL]

Both Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch spoke with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy shortly before firing Fox News' anti-war host Tucker Carlson, who has repeatedly asked why the United States is sending vast resources to one of the most historically corrupt nations on the planet while neglecting its own citizens.

I think Carlson had a good point. We are on the verge of a debt crisis, and I am still not seeing much value for the USA in this war.

And this: [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/kirby-claims-whopping-100000-russian-casualties-bakhmut-alone[/URL].

In a Monday press briefing National Security Council spokesman John Kirby issued a surprisingly high estimate of Russian casualties which he said took place since December fighting in the contested Donetsk city of Bakhmut.

He said Russian forces have suffered over 100,000 total casualties. Including about 20,000 soldiers killed in combat and another 80,000 wounded.

End of link. To me, that number just sounds like total bullshit.

And this: [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/why-long-awaited-ukrainian-counteroffensive-delayed[/URL].

So Kirby paints a picture of a teetering Russian army, and still there's no counteroffensive on the horizon. "But for the moment, they are barely moving forward, stalled not by ferocious Russian attacks, but by an enemy no less tenacious: the viscous central Ukrainian mud," The New York Times wrote Monday. A Ukrainian officer interviewed by the Times acknowledged that "Until the weather improves, there will be no counteroffensive. " This is because: "the vehicles will get stuck and then what will we do if the shooting starts?

The report further describes why Ukraine is holding off in saying, "Deep and black, with a consistency similar to a mixture of cookie dough and wet cement, the spring mud is one obstacle that the Ukrainian military, for all its ingenuity, finds difficult to overcome. " Further "It jams weapons and steals the boots from soldiers' feet. Wheels and treads spin and spin, only digging military vehicles deeper into the mire. ".

My comment: This mud is an excuse. It has been known about forever.

Last week, NATO's top commander, US Army General Christopher Cavoli stated that the Russian army operating in Ukraine is larger than when the Kremlin launched its special military operation and the Ukrainians "have to be better than the Russian force they will face" and decide when and where they will strike.

Cavoli said Russia has strategic depth in manpower and has only lost one warship and about 80 fighters and tactical bombers in an air fleet numbering about 1,000 so far. The general gently contradicted Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin and Chief of General Staff Gen. Mark Milley who have been propagating that Russia is on the brink of defeat.

Gen. Cavoli's testimony came soon after the leaked Pentagon documents recently, which has presented a grim picture of the state of Kiev's military preparedness and the Biden Administration's lack of confidence in the Zelensky regime.

The former CIA analyst Ray McGovern told China's CGTN, "I believe it could be that some senior policymakers in the Pentagon at the highest reaches of the Department of Defense have decided, 'You know, it's a fool's errand in Ukraine. Maybe, we got to get out the truth. Maybe, we got to expose people like Joint Chief of Staff Milley and Secretary Austin for the lies they have told about Ukrainian progress and Russians being just pulverised. And, maybe, that will stop this widening of the war. ' ".

The well-known former CIA analyst Larry Johnson shares the same view. He wrote: "This looks like a controlled, directed leak. The leaked material is not random intelligence material. It is designed to tell several stories. The most prominent is the deterioration of Ukrainian capabilities and the major obstacles confronting the United States and the rest of NATO in supplying badly needed air defence, artillery shells, artillery pieces and tanks. In other words, Ukraine is going to crash and burn. ".

End of link. Zero hedge is unabashedly pro-Russia and pro-Putin but they are giving another side of things we are not seeing. People can take these articles for what they want, but I do not trust Miley and Austin for shit.

My reading of this mixed bag of information is things are going really badly for Ukraine. It is just my opinion, but I think the guys pushing the Ukraine can win narrative are getting desperate and are flat out lying now. I could be wrong, but that is my take.

[QUOTE=Questner;2813458]Orc grunting noises[/QUOTE]Seems that people take war crimes seriously, the one painting the walls will be Putin.

According to CNN:

[QUOTE]Russia has suffered more than 100,000 casualties since December, including over 20,000 dead, according to White House estimates. The Kremlin has rejected the numbers.[/QUOTE]I have to side with the Kremlin here although for a reason they wouldn't like.

There is no way the Russians would only suffer 1 death for every 4 wounded. Yes, those are the "normal" proportions for "normal" modern warfare, but this war is anything but normal. Their wounded do not get pulled from the battlefield unless they can walk or crawl. They're left to die in agony that may last for days. The Russians aren't interested in pulling the wounded who couldn't be sent back to the meatgrinder. The medics too are doing everything they can to avoid risking their own lives pulling the wounded under the enemy fire.

And then, there are commanders who simply shoot their wounded who can't move.

[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10820515/Putins-commanders-slaughtering-wounded-soldiers-captured-Russian-troops-reveal.html[/URL]

The level of cynicism and callousness toward their own comrades is almost unimaginable, but it is what it is.

Not a "schadenfreude" on my part. If the Russian casualties amount to 100,000, it means at least half of them are dead. It's a simple logic.

[QUOTE=Jmsuttr;2811619]Can you find the frankness needed to answer a simple question with an equally simple answer? Fuck the war, in its generalized and abstract sense, and fuck Realpolitik and similar issues. So, let's try this again. Will the third time be a charm, or a strikeout?

"Here's a video interview of a Wagner mercenary who has returned to Russia from fighting in Ukraine. In the interview, he states (among other disclosures) that he was given explicit orders to kill civilians, including children. In one graphic passage, he talks about shooting a girl who was about 5 or 6 years of age. He killed her with a shot to the head.

[URL]https://twitter.com/igorsushko/statu...13152414732288[/URL]

Here's my challenge to you: Can you describe, in a simple single sentence, your reaction as a moral being to this (IMO) quintessential example of evil?

Please don't do yourself a disservice by engaging in some (for this particular moral issue) detached pundit-style discussion of a geopolitical or policy topic. It's a simple question that begs an equally simple answer"..[/QUOTE]JM, I answered your question. I didn't waver or equivocate. The Russian atrocities are disgusting and should be punished to the extent possible. I appreciate your impassioned support and belief in the Ukraine. I'm not challenging the Ukraine's right to their pre-2014 borders.

Our heated exchange started with a discussion about Crimea as a must-have Ukrainian objective and Crimea's ties to Russia or lack thereof. The fact that I see discussions all over the internet on the Crimea means that opinions are forming on the peninsula being a key Ukrainian objective.

Here's an interesting passage from Politico to give context:

"And this time, more western policy-makers — providing the arms, the financing and the diplomatic support necessary for Ukraine to finally achieve its goal of retaking "every inch" of Russian-occupied Ukraine — are increasingly along for the ride. "No matter what the Ukrainians decide about Crimea in terms of where they choose to fight. Ukraine is not going to be safe unless Crimea is at a minimum, at a minimum, demilitarized," undersecretary of state Victoria Nuland recently said. Or as Pentagon spokesperson Sabrina Singh announced last month, the USA Will back Ukraine's efforts to reclaim the peninsula it first lost nearly a decade ago. ".

I will say this again. I don't care who tries to twist it or attack me. A political settlement as opposed to a sweeping military victory will likely be necessary to end the hostilities. You have mentioned the collapse of the Putin regime as a result of Ukrainian battlefield successes. This too is really a political solution. While we can all hope, it's also not something to count on as the impetus for terminating the war.

(Sorry for my delay in responding. I've been busy and I wanted to try to respond thoughtfully without trying to raise the heat unnecessarily.).