Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=KCK12;3048088]Went to Casarao yesterday Sunday 18, just writing this because it finnally happened to me. Entered the club around 10:30 Pm. Not a lot of customers but I chatted with 2 garotas in which they suggested a threesome. I declined and then went with one of them for overnight. She initially asked for 1500 however In countered with 1000. She said she could accept it. So off we went to my hotel. She asked for payment before the deed. No problem, done. Went fucking her in 4 rounds till 3 hours. And then she finally said: "Hey look I think it is going to be late, so either you finish or I'm going out". Which I told her but you accepted and told me you had no hurries. Anyways she said that no that 1000 was too LOW for her and her rate was 1500. She said either I pay 500 more so she could stay or leave. Told her to fuck off. It was 3 am when she went out. Not even 6 am morning which is considered all night.

Anybody here has any ideas or could help me. This the first time it has happened to me. All other times I asked for overnight the girls accepted and did the deed as agreed.[/QUOTE]This unfortunately can happen in other mongering destinations too and since this is a freelancer you are dealing with instead of a girl who is working with a bar or brothel that is managed, you have to take the increased risk. The only thing I could suggest with such freelancers if you continue to go this route is before you commit to the session while you are still negotiating with her at the club is confirm that either no or partial payment is handed over at the beginning and final balance is not payable until end of session. If she doesn't agree, then do not take her. If she changes her mind once she gets to your room, cancel the session. Another strategy often used by others is for first time meeting a new girl, just do a short time and if it goes well, then do a long time next rather than commit to an overnight right away with someone you haven't sessioned with.

Looking forward to be going back to Brazil in a week or so. I will be staying near Parque Ibirapuera. From reading this forum, I have to give a shoutout to posts by SocratesNY, Axel Heyst, Steve 9696, and Chicago85 for helping me plan this trip.

I have been to Brazil (SP and Rio) 3 times before, but the last time was in 2017, and a lot has changed around the world since then, especially post pandemic. In my previous visits to SP, I stuck to Boates, specifically the big 3: Scandallo, Bomboa, Cafe Photo. The last time I visited Scandallo, the outside area was still under construction. Upon doing some Googling, it appears that both Bomboa and Cafe Photo have both relocated since I was last there. I have the same opinion as the vast majority of members here: Scandallo is in a tier of it's own compared to the other Boates.

This visit, I plan on doing mostly Boates. But, I also want to check out a Clinica, as well as visit Casarao. For Boates, one that catches my attention that I don't recall existing during my last visit is Gauguin club. My plan is to first visit at least two out of Bomboa / Cafe Photo / Gauguin / other options, and leave Scandallo for a different day. Because I feel once I visit Scandallo, I probably will not want to visit any other place during my stay. Which Clinica to visit and when to visit Casarao are still *.

A few questions I have. Google research has told me PEDs, aka blue / yellow pills, can be purchased at a pharmacy, no prescription needed, under the name "Tadalafila". Please advise if this information I found is incorrect.

As well, for Scandallo 400 are consumption, what counts towards that other than food / drinks? I read a post saying that vapes are available for purchase in Scandallo, which I did not know was a thing. And are bottles included in the 400 are consumption, or separate (ex: If I went to Scandallo and only bought a bottle for the whole night and nothing else, would I pay 400 are + price of bottle, or just the price of the bottle?

Will post reports of the places I visit.

[QUOTE=KCK12;3048088]Went to Casarao yesterday Sunday 18, just writing this because it finnally happened to me. Entered the club around 10:30 Pm. Not a lot of customers but I chatted with 2 garotas in which they suggested a threesome. I declined and then went with one of them for overnight. She initially asked for 1500 however In countered with 1000. She said she could accept it. So off we went to my hotel. She asked for payment before the deed. No problem, done. Went fucking her in 4 rounds till 3 hours. And then she finally said: "Hey look I think it is going to be late, so either you finish or I'm going out". Which I told her but you accepted and told me you had no hurries. Anyways she said that no that 1000 was too LOW for her and her rate was 1500. She said either I pay 500 more so she could stay or leave. Told her to fuck off. It was 3 am when she went out. Not even 6 am morning which is considered all night.

Anybody here has any ideas or could help me. This the first time it has happened to me. All other times I asked for overnight the girls accepted and did the deed as agreed.[/QUOTE]You fucked her 4 times in less than 3 hours? I guess she left early just to avoid being fucked 10 times in one night. Can you really blame her for that?

[QUOTE=RonFromSichuan;3048171]Looking forward to be going back to Brazil in a week or so. I will be staying near Parque Ibirapuera. From reading this forum, I have to give a shoutout to posts by SocratesNY, Axel Heyst, Steve 9696, and Chicago85 for helping me plan this trip.


A few questions I have. Google research has told me PEDs, aka blue / yellow pills, can be purchased at a pharmacy, no prescription needed, under the name "Tadalafila". Please advise if this information I found is incorrect.[/QUOTE]Yes Tadafila can be purchased at any pharmacy without prescription, good quality generic and pretty unexpansive compared to ie Europe.

[QUOTE=KCK12;3048088]Went to Casarao yesterday Sunday 18, just writing this because it finnally happened to me. Entered the club around 10:30 Pm. Not a lot of customers but I chatted with 2 garotas in which they suggested a threesome. I declined and then went with one of them for overnight. She initially asked for 1500 however In countered with 1000. She said she could accept it. So off we went to my hotel. She asked for payment before the deed. No problem, done. Went fucking her in 4 rounds till 3 hours. And then she finally said: "Hey look I think it is going to be late, so either you finish or I'm going out". Which I told her but you accepted and told me you had no hurries. Anyways she said that no that 1000 was too LOW for her and her rate was 1500. She said either I pay 500 more so she could stay or leave. Told her to fuck off. It was 3 am when she went out. Not even 6 am morning which is considered all night.

Anybody here has any ideas or could help me. This the first time it has happened to me. All other times I asked for overnight the girls accepted and did the deed as agreed.[/QUOTE]Dude it may not seem like it now. You did the right thing. Just let her ass leave your hotel with no drama. In the heat of the moment there are no good options for you to prevent her ass from leaving. There are recent threads on this topic with plenty of experiences, guys have shared. Heck it happens inside of boaters too deals gone south. Worse if ya ain't a fluent brasilian speaker.

I did post about my casarao refund experience. I left 400 brl on the table for the garota to take after the deed was done. 10 minutes into some toothy head told her she sucks at sucking. Her drunk ass told me keep the money left.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3048172]You fucked her 4 times in less than 3 hours? I guess she left early just to avoid being fucked 10 times in one night. Can you really blame her for that?[/QUOTE]I was thinking the same. The OP actually got a good deal. Most mongers pay 'overnight' for 2 rounds max.

Sampled my usual clnicas during the slow end of year holiday season:

Anavrin: Current talent pool is alright but nothing like the premium line-up they had same time last year. The standout was Kiara, young, shapely, tall and slender, decent massage, excellent cock worship / BJ / BLS. Yume gave the best reverse oral I've ever had. Honorable mention was Carol, a passionate MILF who enjoys what she does. I would avoid Hanna, lazy, no GFE.

Moema Prime: Remains a top destination for me for talent-value combo. Some notables:

Best experience this trip was here with Ana-Clara, skinny, soft and sensual style, extreme sex drive, very GFE and orgasmic. If we married for sex, I would have taken her home to meet mama. One of only two I repeated with.

Maria-Clara. Easily the most popular lady at this place based scanned reviews on gp-guia. Very high sexual energy and stamina. The only one who made me (literally) pop twice in the hour. I got exhausted during second round attempt and was about to go for a shower, but she pulled me back and pleaded to keep going a little bit longer. She eventually got it out of me and we both felt proud, me going home to sleep, and her likely moving on to the next dick. She gets loud in the heat of the moment.

Alissa (or Alice) - pretty, but otherwise awful in every way. Dead fish, worst experience the entire trip.

Espaco Viv: one of those (semi) legit places where you get a full massage, and negotiate extras in the room. Massage was good and comes with L1 standard. The downside was that only photo line-up was provided, which of course ended up far removed from what I actually got. Value proposition poor unless all you want is massage plus L1.

Do Patrao (formerly Unique): This was my second go-to place due to talent pool and management. The standout was Bruna, a passionate lover who obviously enjoys sex, a lot, and is orgasmic. Excellent BJ stamina and skill. Great GFE, one of the two I repeated with. One to avoid at all cost here is Daphene, one of the best natural boobs you'll ever encounter, but lazy as fuck, and annoyingly talkative. Stopped BJ every 5 seconds to say something, very irritating. I ended up giving up and moving on.

Brooklin: Next door to Patrao. Talent seemed promising but reception was unmanned for extended periods, so I left.

Brazil remains the best hobby destination for me globally. Happy mongering!

[QUOTE=RonFromSichuan;3048171]
This visit, I plan on doing mostly Boates. But, I also want to check out a Clinica, as well as visit Casarao. For Boates, one that catches my attention that I don't recall existing during my last visit is Gauguin club. My plan is to first visit at least two out of Bomboa / Cafe Photo / Gauguin / other options, and leave Scandallo for a different day. Because I feel once I visit Scandallo, I probably will not want to visit any other place during my stay. Which Clinica to visit and when to visit Casarao are still *.
[/QUOTE]I would skip Cafe Photo. It has gone down a lot in quantity and quality of the girls. Gaugin and Bomboa both are fine choices for a less overwhelming boate experience. I personally prefer GG (what many girls call Gaugin) as I hate the nickle and diming policies Bomboa has added (same with Cafe Photo) the last few years. It's short term thinking by management IMHO.

Casarao is definitely a fine option as a late night seedier meat market option. As Casarao doesn't start going until after 12:30 or 1 am, you can do a boate then Casarao if you are a night owl.

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A few questions I have. Google research has told me PEDs, aka blue / yellow pills, can be purchased at a pharmacy, no prescription needed, under the name "Tadalafila". Please advise if this information I found is incorrect.[/QUOTE]Yes. Both brand name PEDs and genetics are available in pharmacies without a prescription.

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As well, for Scandallo 400 are consumption, what counts towards that other than food / drinks? I read a post saying that vapes are available for purchase in Scandallo, which I did not know was a thing. And are bottles included in the 400 are consumption, or separate (ex: If I went to Scandallo and only bought a bottle for the whole night and nothing else, would I pay 400 are + price of bottle, or just the price of the bottle?
[/QUOTE]The 400 consumption at Scan is counted against all tyoes of consumption, whether it's food, drinks, bottles, cigars or vapes. If you buy a bottle for 700, then you pay 700 when you leave, as the 400 MINIMUM consumption goes toward that. If you just eat and have a drink and spend 300 on F&be, you still pay 400 when you leave.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;3048265]I would skip Cafe Photo. It has gone down a lot in quantity and quality of girls.[/QUOTE]The last time I went to the new Cafe Photo, the presentation given by most of the girls was pretty ludicrous. Not only did I find most of them to be unattractive, but their attempt at elegance was laughable. You see, many of them were dressed in elegant gowns, but with hideous tattoos showing all over the place. Nothing elegant about that look at all. May as well just present as the trashy tutes you are. The best thing about the visit was the tasty tuna shashimi I ate there LOL! Afterwards, I headed to Casarao where there were far more desirable girls to choose from. Will I go to Cafe Photo again? During a long stay in Sampa yes, but with no high expectations, except for the shashimi LMAO!

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;3048265]
The 400 consumption at Scan is counted against all tyoes of consumption, whether it's food, drinks, bottles, cigars or vapes. If you buy a bottle for 700, then you pay 700 when you leave, as the 400 MINIMUM consumption goes toward that. If you just eat and have a drink and spend 300 on F&be, you still pay 400 when you leave.[/QUOTE]If you arrive BEFORE 7 pm.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3048268]The last time I went to the new Cafe Photo, the presentation given by most of the girls was pretty ludicrous. Not only did I find most of them to be unattractive, but their attempt at elegance was laughable. You see, many of them were dressed in elegant gowns, but with hideous tattoos showing all over the place. Nothing elegant about that look at all. May as well just present as the trashy tutes you are. The best thing about the visit was the tasty tuna shashimi I ate there LOL! Afterwards, I headed to Casarao where there were far more desirable girls to choose from. Will I go to Cafe Photo again? During a long stay in Sampa yes, but with no high expectations, except for the shashimi LMAO![/QUOTE]My Airbnb booked in March is apparently quite close to Cafe Photo but based on recent negative reports on it, I probably won't even bother visiting it. There are enough clinicas within walking distance to keep me entertained I hope.

[QUOTE=Guest19;3048346]If you arrive BEFORE 7 pm.[/QUOTE]Uh. Nope. The minimum consumption doesn't change regardless when you arrive.

If you arrive after 7 pm, they do add a R200 cover charge, which you get nothing from. Except being able to arrive later when it's more busy. But for many clients, time is money and they don't mind paying the cover charge.

[QUOTE=KCK12;3048088]Went to Casarao yesterday Sunday 18, just writing this because it finnally happened to me. Entered the club around 10:30 Pm. Not a lot of customers but I chatted with 2 garotas in which they suggested a threesome. I declined and then went with one of them for overnight. She initially asked for 1500 however In countered with 1000. She said she could accept it. So off we went to my hotel. She asked for payment before the deed. No problem, done. Went fucking her in 4 rounds till 3 hours. And then she finally said: "Hey look I think it is going to be late, so either you finish or I'm going out". Which I told her but you accepted and told me you had no hurries. Anyways she said that no that 1000 was too LOW for her and her rate was 1500. She said either I pay 500 more so she could stay or leave. Told her to fuck off. It was 3 am when she went out. Not even 6 am morning which is considered all night.

Anybody here has any ideas or could help me. This the first time it has happened to me. All other times I asked for overnight the girls accepted and did the deed as agreed.[/QUOTE]Perhaps just me, but I think you dodged a bullet and ultimately did fine. When you pay girls up front sometimes they underperform or will make a scene after the first round, just so that they can leave early. This didn't happen with you. You also got 4 rounds and 3 hours for 1000 . Not bad for a quality girl in SP. You're lucky that she just left after demanding the extra 500 r. I've had girls stay later than agreed and then decide that it was 'my fault' that I didn't tell them to leave and say that I owe them more. A girl sat on my couch for 2+ hours one time. None of us wants a crazy garota in our hotel or Airbnb breaking shit.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3048172]You fucked her 4 times in less than 3 hours? I guess she left early just to avoid being fucked 10 times in one night. Can you really blame her for that?[/QUOTE]She knew what she was getting into. Ela sabia. Told her that I loved to fuck till morning she accepted anyways. She changed her mind when she saw that she could have been paid more.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3048115]This unfortunately can happen in other mongering destinations too and since this is a freelancer you are dealing with instead of a girl who is working with a bar or brothel that is managed, you have to take the increased risk. The only thing I could suggest with such freelancers if you continue to go this route is before you commit to the session while you are still negotiating with her at the club is confirm that either no or partial payment is handed over at the beginning and final balance is not payable until end of session. If she doesn't agree, then do not take her. If she changes her mind once she gets to your room, cancel the session. Another strategy often used by others is for first time meeting a new girl, just do a short time and if it goes well, then do a long time next rather than commit to an overnight right away with someone you haven't sessioned with.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3048105]Mongering Rule #7: Never pay a girl in advance. It creates a moral hazard for some girls. KKK. Thus I can only recall 2 or 3 times total when I had a Brazilian girl in my hotel room and she would not accept payment afterwards and walked out. I say Good Riddance! And on a few rare nights, I compromised and placed the cash on the dresser with the understanding that the cash was hers afterwards. But other than that, for something like +99% of my trysts with Brazilian FL's in my SP hotel room; the sessions go off without a problem or even mention of paying upfront.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys for the suggestions and definitely going to implement those rules no pay till deed is finished and vet girls if they usually ask for payment first which is a no go.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3048667]Perhaps just me, but I think you dodged a bullet and ultimately did fine. When you pay girls up front sometimes they underperform or will make a scene after the first round, just so that they can leave early. This didn't happen with you. You also got 4 rounds and 3 hours for 1000 . Not bad for a quality girl in SP. You're lucky that she just left after demanding the extra 500 r. I've had girls stay later than agreed and then decide that it was 'my fault' that I didn't tell them to leave and say that I owe them more. A girl sat on my couch for 2+ hours one time. None of us wants a crazy garota in our hotel or Airbnb breaking shit.[/QUOTE]That is some crazy shit, glad she didn't fucking break the whole room.

For context, I've mongered in Central and South America as well as Europe and Asia, but have to say that SP totally rocks right now. Up there with Colombia IMHO. Girls on the street even are hot, and there is a femininity and sexuality in the women here that feels lost in parts of US and Europe. And the mix of races over last 400 years also appears to have helped!

Arrived at hotel in Itaim Bibi, and called garota from PhotoAcompanhantes for mid-day session. Negotiated R300 including Ubers for a 1 HR session. Photos were 8/10, but in person face was 8 (GND), but figure prolly 6 or 7. Good session overall, and an efficient unload before the main event at night.

It was Thursday night, and I wanted to save Scandallo for Fri / Sat, so went to Casarao Augusta.

I was blown away! Based on other posts ISG posts I expected more of a dive bar situation, and it was fairly upscale. Prolly 50-70 girls, with over a dozen 9's! Look one way, find one you want to engage with. And 2 minutes later another one passes by!

And there's a lower floor which is much nicer I thought. Entry was R60 and I think it covered at least one drink since they didn't charge me for it upon checkout (they have that card system that seems to work well).

After some drinks and conversations, found this gorgeous mid-twenties girl, all-natural, with an angelic face, super soft skin and great smiling and service attitude. Know that I don't speak Portuguese. So it was all Google Translate.

She asked for 800, but I knew from the forum that 500 was a good offer (and I didn't want to negotiate too hard). So off we go. Great kissing to start and she gets on her knees. Started with slow kissing the blade and balls, but before long she was warmed up and was deep-throating! Incredible view and sensations. Not holding back and full face f* Took time to do a few other positions, and then finished in missionary. Her natural BBs dangling in my face.

Showered and kissed goodbyes. Took her number and even a pic on the way out.

If Casarao was that good, how good will Scandallo be tonight?