German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=Turgid;2575259]I have found that negotiation prior to the room has never saved me from a short timer. My first experience of short timing was at Sharks perhaps 5 years ago. The girl told me time up after around 15 minutes. I decided to complain to management, they were pleasant but there was no resolution in my favor. The guy told me you're here to enjoy yourself so why spoil by complaining, LOL. Generally 90% of my FKK sessions are good so I have since never lodged a complaint to management.[/QUOTE]Yeah make it 5 min DFK, 5 min DATY, 5 min BBBJ 5 min 69 and 10 min fuck. I am going to begin to time that shit by bringing in timer LOL!

As you and I said, most sessions in FKK are really good and it is rare to have bad service girl, so it all balance out at the end!

At least your damage was 50 euro 30 min session and even you go for longer session, cut it at 30 min if the session is lousy, nobody can charge you more than 50 euro and there is security camera to check when you enter the room!

I only had one bad session in FKK that was not my fault, but in escort I had two or three more two that was not good, but one of it was disaster that I kicked her out of the room and damage was quite big 380 usd plus the hotel 59 usd about, but it was ok, she still sucked my dick and I filmed that shit LOL!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2575335]Well if you want to make an extra donation of your money per half hour, why don't you just go ahead then? I mean nobody is stopping you from paying what you believe to be a reasonable price hike, so just go ahead. It's your money and nobody can stop you, so voluntarily do as you please and believe to be reasonable and fair. Do pay more if it makes you happy. At the end of the day, I believe people should spend the money they earned as they want. In the meantime, I'm rather certain that the rest of us will remain quite pleased with placing our faith in 50 euros per half hour for services rendered, in accordance with house rules (in most clubs thus placing Artemis and Babylon in a stark minority where the market otherwise [B]does not[/B] suggest going, lest they wouldn't be just two). In 50 euros we trust! Makes Mr. Ho swell with pride![/QUOTE]I have not been advocating for a price increase, no desire to pay more if I don't have to. I am just stating that I find the inflation argument valid if a price increase corresponded to the economic environment. As previously stated, 100 e per half hour is overboard. 150 per hour is also too much of an abrupt increase.

But if there was a modest increase that correlates to the last 2 decades of economic reality (Average German wage increased by 22% then I do not see anything unfair about a modest increase. 22% increase for 50 euro is a little over 60 e. If that becomes the new norm, it would be fair. It would be even better if it has the effect of appeasing some of the girls and reduce the 100 e price gouging.

Obviously, I would be more than happy to keep paying the 50 e entry. Who doesn't like a good deal? But not arguments that extrapolates a 100 e / hour rate to a 40 hour work week and this a 200 K annual income is rooted in faulty math that ignores the reality that the girls do not earn 100 e for every hour that they are actually physically at their place of work while also ignoring that just like any other expense, they also have cost of operation expense. How many jobs charge you 100 e per day for the privilege of coming in to work? Point is, comparing the 100 e per hour to a normal wage earner's rate is shifty math.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2575771]I have not been advocating for a price increase, no desire to pay more if I don't have to. I am just stating that I find the inflation argument valid if a price increase corresponded to the economic environment. As previously stated, 100 e per half hour is overboard. 150 per hour is also too much of an abrupt increase.

But if there was a modest increase that correlates to the last 2 decades of economic reality (Average German wage increased by 22% then I do not see anything unfair about a modest increase. 22% increase for 50 euro is a little over 60 e. If that becomes the new norm, it would be fair. It would be even better if it has the effect of appeasing some of the girls and reduce the 100 e price gouging.

Obviously, I would be more than happy to keep paying the 50 e entry. Who doesn't like a good deal? But not arguments that extrapolates a 100 e / hour rate to a 40 hour work week and this a 200 K annual income is rooted in faulty math that ignores the reality that the girls do not earn 100 e for every hour that they are actually physically at their place of work while also ignoring that just like any other expense, they also have cost of operation expense. How many jobs charge you 100 e per day for the privilege of coming in to work? Point is, comparing the 100 e per hour to a normal wage earner's rate is shifty math.[/QUOTE]Besides all your analysis, FKK girls won't care much about your educated opinion on inflation, when FKK girls increase prices, their inflation decision on our ass will occur based on they want to increase price LOL! It is implemented by special hidden economical theory of this great empire nation called Romania! They increase price because they increase price based on their feeling of they feel like it LOL!

So all these numbers and datas you bring in won't much front of FKK girls because most of them do not even know simple math, they just know how to count money LOL! Oh they know that 50 euro notes baby, oh they know that, so it is like Judo, you use that 50 euro on your hand as your advantage and take these girls down LOL!

50 Euro and 100 Euro are the only numbers they can register like cash register LOL! Consider FKK girls as some kind of organic cash register with 3 holes, where you can put your dick in one or few of those holes depending on how many 50 euro or 100 euro you put inside LOL!

FKK girls, the organic cash register with 3 holes, which can register 50 euro or 100 euro currencies LOL! They accept 10 or 20 euro notes, but these organic cash register don't like small notes LOL!

Used to be easy walking in to Aldi and getting a SIM card. I understand it's very different now and I need proof of German address even for a prepaid SIM. My German SIM card is stuck in Thailand. Can someone let me know how they are getting SIM cards now. Is there a shop where I can pick up a SIM without a German address. You may want to PM me the latter.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2575828]Used to be easy walking in to Aldi and getting a SIM card. I understand it's very different now and I need proof of German address even for a prepaid SIM. My German SIM card is stuck in Thailand. Can someone let me know how they are getting SIM cards now. Is there a shop where I can pick up a SIM without a German address. You may want to PM me the latter.[/QUOTE]Too many terrorism, that is why and also some European nation like France cannot even stop the French woman hitting the cyclist at Tour de France! Imagine, they cannot even secure that simple event from simple middle age fat woman with such a low tech weapon called a board LOL! If France cannot stop a board, imagine a gun man as there has always been some insane shooting at concert, on the street and so on!

If I remember right, you can get one of those throw away prepaid card at Kiosk in Germany, but you still need an ID I think and one should need ID considering all that crazy mess they used to have before pandemic! The only thing good about pandemic is no more terrorism in Europe during pandemic as they too took a break from shooting and bombing the random places in Europe because simply there are no gathering of people! Now it is slowly getting back to norm, wait and see what will happen again and again and again and repeat.

Or another trick one can do is get a travel router, it is not that insanely expensive if you need to communicate all the time and also go on line while you are in Germany.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2575494]The top stunners are proud of their beauty, when you propose 50 euro you don't respect them so you are getting what you deserve. It is the same in all the business. The girls are not stupid they are just looking for money, not for sex, not for love nothing else than money. The best client is the one paying a lot for more or less nothing, just the time and many guys are doing this. You can't imagine how many guys are paying girls not for having sex, or just the minimum, they are happy to be with a beautiful girl, speaking about many things like with a psychiatric and doing so they also don t have the feeling to cheat on their wife or girl friend.[/QUOTE]I am willing to pay 150 euro for my anal licking service included package, that with DFK etc but biggest I got ripped of is my anal licking service included package for 200 euro once in palace, this Venezuelan, but apparently Argentinian by management do no give in, so I confirmed that it is going to be so dirty beyond ones imagination? She said yes, so I gave in, but oh boy it was worth the session, I got my tongue clean by her mouth eating my tongue, inside of anal licked wow those Argentinian girls are wild in bed among a lot of things like spitting etc LOL! So sometimes giving in could turn out to be good! But beside that, it is usually 150 euro for one hour all included like intense session of DFK, rimming etc. Once in awhile I get same for 100 euro session and other times very rarely lately I get amazing session for 50 euro, but very rare now than before! But in globe I got amazing session with rimjob, anal in her finger etc for 140 chf for 30 min last Feb., it was her first day! So once in awhile we still get lucky, but over all I do not see FKK as total rip off place, some upsell here and there, but reasonable! Once I just wanted go for 30 min 60 euro session in artemis with upsell queen July in palace aka joy in artemis back in the day, and she did say one hour for 150, but I told her no I want to go just 30 min as I really was sick of sex due to my consecutive FKK days, then she did give in for 30 min 60 euro standard price, but good session, so those girls as much as they are there for business, they do become reasonably human and not always prostitute, well 99 % prostitute 1 % human, so you got to be lucky to be in that moment of 1 % human LOL!

I do miss the day when we could get BBBJ and sex for 50 or 60 euro for sure as sometimes, I just want to get BBBJ, DATY and fuck and out of door before I leave the club for back then 5th to 7th session, now more like 3rd or 4th or 5th session if I can, but man, then I always have to have this thought of ok I may have to negotiate again! I hate this feeling, I know it is going to be ok somehow, but I just hate this feeling! I liked sure thing about FKK and standard session was higher before, now it is depend on your luck, you, and the day.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2575828]Used to be easy walking in to Aldi and getting a SIM card. I understand it's very different now and I need proof of German address even for a prepaid SIM. My German SIM card is stuck in Thailand. Can someone let me know how they are getting SIM cards now. Is there a shop where I can pick up a SIM without a German address. You may want to PM me the latter.[/QUOTE]I bought on Ebay as I did in the past. Hopefully will work as it did in the past.

[URL]https://www.ebay.com/itm/123808092465[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2575335]Well if you want to make an extra donation of your money per half hour, why don't you just go ahead then? I mean nobody is stopping you from paying what you believe to be a reasonable price hike, so just go ahead. It's your money and nobody can stop you, so voluntarily do as you please and believe to be reasonable and fair. Do pay more if it makes you happy. At the end of the day, I believe people should spend the money they earned as they want. In the meantime, I'm rather certain that the rest of us will remain quite pleased with placing our faith in 50 euros per half hour for services rendered, in accordance with house rules (in most clubs thus placing Artemis and Babylon in a stark minority where the market otherwise [B]does not[/B] suggest going, lest they wouldn't be just two). In 50 euros we trust! Makes Mr. Ho swell with pride![/QUOTE]Donation require contribution in FKK LOL! Contribution require donation in FKK LOL! All we know is 50 Euro is the shit that make the world go around in FKK, how many of it you put into that Organic ATM machine with 3 holes is up to you LOL! And each holes have different price LOL! It is what it is LOL!

Made in German organic ATM machine with 3 holes tend to be more reliable, but Romanian organic ATM machine with 3 holes are also reliable enough LOL!

It is like pin ball machine where you put money inside and depending on how much money you put inside, you can put it in 3 holes, some can put it in for cheaper than others due to luck, and technique learnt through out years operating those organic machine LOL!

Mongers are professional Organic ATM machine with 3 holes operator LOL!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2575771]Obviously, I would be more than happy to keep paying the 50 e entry. Who doesn't like a good deal? But not arguments that extrapolates a 100 e / hour rate to a 40 hour work week and this a 200 K annual income is rooted in faulty math that ignores the reality that the girls do not earn 100 e for every hour that they are actually physically at their place of work while also ignoring that just like any other expense, they also have cost of operation expense. How many jobs charge you 100 e per day for the privilege of coming in to work? Point is, comparing the 100 e per hour to a normal wage earner's rate is shifty math.[/QUOTE]Faulty math? Let's see. 100 euros per hour X 8 hours a day X 5 days a week X 4 weeks a month X 12 months a year = 192,000 euros a year. [B]You can challenge certain assumptions[/B], but you can't call the math faulty, unless of course you can't do basic arithmetic. The purpose is to show the power of 50 euros per 30 minutes for the average working Joe. And then there's the cost of work. We all have that. You have to have the proper clothing, you have to pay for transportation to and from, you need the proper tools, you have to eat lunch, etc. Whatever goes with performing the job successfully. Operating expenses OK. And how many people do you know who can earn a living without having any expenses whatsoever? In the case of these prostitutes, they're independent contractors and permitted to come onto somebody else's property and provide personal services at rates any average working stiff would consider to be at a premium. At 50 euro for a half hour of work to 100 euros for a full hour at most of the clubs. Plus upcharges for certain services.

And they should be able to earn that money free and clear without having to pay the ones who own and run the facility anything? Who ordinarily would allow somebody to do that on their property? There can be some debate about what should be charged, but I believe it's imminently fair that those who run and operate the platform where that money is being earned are entitled to be compensated for providing said platform. [B]It's a club[/B] where service providers and their clients alike are charged a fee to enter. If a tute doesn't want to pay that "operating expense", then she can and should provide her services some other way. Be a call girl. Stand on the street. Whatever. But, she's not entitled to work on somebody else's property free and clear. You know, just because you don't agree with somebody else's position doesn't mean that the other position is made in bad faith. If anything, it could be said that the "bad faith" is coming from the other side. You're going on about how the girls deserve more, and you have it within you to pay more (nobody is stopping you), but then you say you don't want to pay more! Which is it? I know what I want, and fortunately the market stands with me. It doesn't depend on convincing you.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2575883]I bought on Ebay as I did in the past. Hopefully will work as it did in the past.

[URL]https://www.ebay.com/itm/123808092465[/URL][/QUOTE]It seems to me this is just for Data, no allowance for minutes and Texts?? For many people living in the EU countries and other European countries sim card for data is not needed as they could always take their home allowance with them to other european countries without roaming or extra charges.

What is mainly needed is minutes and texts becuase if you call an escort using your home sim card they will turn if off immediately as soon as they see you are calling from a foreign number as they might think you are calling them from abroad.

[QUOTE=Adindas;2575951]It seems to me this is just for Data, no allowance for minutes and Texts?? For many people living in the EU countries and other European countries sim card for data is not needed as they could always take their home allowance with them to other countries in the EU without roaming or extra charges.

What is mainly needed is minutes and texts becuase if you call an escort using your home sim card they will turn if off immediately as soon as they see you are calling from a foreign number as they might think you are calling them from abroad.[/QUOTE]At least globe is being selective as they should be to just get stunner girls! I would say Romanians are relatively easier to get, but they should work on getting German girls who do not want to register in Germany to work in globe and wow some Germans are real beauty! And amazing service!

This is how an Athlete looks like nowadays. Beeing an athlete firm body, fit is defenitely not to be questioned.

Does anyone one here on ISG think that Alic@ Schm1dt is not a hot stunner?? She has been offered for a shooting with playboy she refused

[QUOTE=Adindas;2575955]This is how an Athlete looks like nowadays. Beeing an athlete firm body, fit is defenitely not to be questioned.

Does anyone one here on ISG think that Alic@ Schm1dt is not hot??[/QUOTE]Yeah she is very much my type, but luckily I fucked same level girls in German FKK before LOL! Whatta wonderful world we live in LOL!

[QUOTE=Adindas;2575955]This is how an Athlete looks like nowadays. Beeing an athlete firm body, fit is defenitely not to be questioned.

Does anyone one here on ISG think that Alic@ Schm1dt is not a hot stunner?? She has been offered for a shooting with playboy she refused[/QUOTE]She definitely is a beauty with a guaranteed beautifully firm body. A few girls at FKKs who were ex dancers etc also had very athletic bodies -- plus most young women work out a lot nowadays. One that comes to mind was at Colosseum in Augsburg -- her name was Natasha and she had emerald green eyes and a dancer's physique.

Another beautiful stunner who is an athlete is the Italian (of Moroccan origin) 200 m sprinter Dali at Kaddar1.

[QUOTE=Adindas;2575955]This is how an Athlete looks like nowadays. Beeing an athlete firm body, fit is defenitely not to be questioned.

Does anyone one here on ISG think that Alic@ Schm1dt is not a hot stunner?? She has been offered for a shooting with playboy she refused[/QUOTE]Pristina De. at Sharks has an athletic body, very firm and shapely. I session with her anytime I see her in the club.