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[QUOTE=Blue Nose;1346032]I will be arriving in BKK on November 18th, staying at the Nana Hotel for three nights, then heading to Pattya on the 21st for two nights, staying at the Penthouse.Blue Nose[/QUOTE]If you want to pursue non P4P girls from dating sites and you tell them you stay in the most known mongering hotels, you will fail to have the girls coming to see you in the rooms. Nana and PH are probbaly the most "mongering" traditional residendences. Just like saying to a girl in Japan you have a room in a Love Hotel.
She will run away or if she comes. Puts your hands in the wallet pocket.
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[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1346176]If you want to pursue non P4P girls from dating sites and you tell them you stay in the most known mongering hotels, you will fail to have the girls coming to see you in the rooms. Nana and PH are probbaly the most "mongering" traditional residendences. Just like saying to a girl in Japan you have a room in a Love Hotel.
She will run away or if she comes. Puts your hands in the wallet pocket.[/QUOTE]That is very true and good info. I will stay in those areas, but always high end hotels. It lowers their mongering suspicions.
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[QUOTE=SexPerimenter; 1345511]I received a pm from a helpful person and signed up at dia. You're having better luck than I am, or I'm picking the wrong ones. I've had a lot of interest from women on the love links sites etc but most seem to be interested in finding a farang or westerner for marriage. The ones who say that they don't want to be someone's holiday girlfriend, seem to mean it. All the Thai women I've met online seem to have conservative values.
I did meet a nice friend on one site, we're meeting up at a villa down south for a few days but she's not expecting money, and I'm not expecting sex (I have enough of that lined up in BKK before and after) , we've talked for hours and have have a connection, just not one with our genitals.
Any tips to share on picking women interested in free or paid sex on the dating sites?[/QUOTE]You bring up a good question. I am white, in my late 50's, in good shape, have a lot of money, stay in nice hotels. Don't ask for sex upfront, etc. I have so many girls who want to meet me in Thailand, that I do not have the time to meet all of them. And this is just off one site, Thai Lovelinks.
Who are you? If you are dirty looking, poor, asking for sex upfront, maybe a non-white (many girls just want farang) , you may have issues meeting girls on these sites.
I have way too many that want me. So I am very lucky I guess.
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[QUOTE=Blue Nose; 1346032]Thanks to everybody for your thoughtful replies regarding the dating scene in Thailand, ex dating sites. With only a short visit, and a lack of understanding of Thai culture (which, I can appreciate, is much more complex than it may seem to a foreigner) I think I'll stick to mongering for now. The language issue has also tripped me up before, even in places where the women are generally much more receptive to being approached than here in the West.
I will be arriving in BKK on November 18th, staying at the Nana Hotel for three nights, then heading to Pattya on the 21st for two nights, staying at the Penthouse. Thanks again for all the great info, and hit me up if you'd like to catch up for a beer and / or you have any interest whatsoever in latinas in Central and South America, but weren't sure who to ask!
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]Exactly what I thought, You can't learn the culture (if that is even your goal) by visiting Bangkok and Pattaya. This is the typical trip of a *****monger.
My guess is that you will not return to Thailand, no way, especially seeing the places your staying at.
You could not have picked Worse accommodation (I wonder who suggested you these hotels) :
Nana hotel? Overpriced shithole, dirty as can be: a place to Avoid.
Penthouse? Seriously? You're going to a place that is notorious for having mostly Ladyboys?
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[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1346224]You bring up a good question. I am white, in my late 50's, in good shape, have a lot of money, stay in nice hotels. Don't ask for sex upfront, etc. I have so many girls who want to meet me in Thailand, that I do not have the time to meet all of them. And this is just off one site, Thai Lovelinks.
Who are you? If you are dirty looking, poor, asking for sex upfront, maybe a non-white (many girls just want farang) , you may have issues meeting girls on these sites.
I have way too many that want me. So I am very lucky I guess.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with you on this one. It is all about how you present yourself. Creating a profile is like advertising and you have to write somewhat surprising or "outside the box" to get attention from females bcs some of them get thousands of mails and interest / favorites addings. I try to write something to draw attention in the headline of my profile. I did write I hate prostitution and girls asking for money and / or support. I did even add I don't want girls with babies and they did have to come from / live in Bangkok. And I have to say I have got quite a lot of responses (even without me contacting them first). This is for my TLL profile. I have a feeling or atleast my impression of TLL are that girls here are a bit more genuine than in DateinAsia (DIA) and Thaifriendly (TF).
For my DIA and TF profiles I leave a more open minded feel to the girls when they read so everyone can feel free to respond. Here it is me mostly contacting the girls. I feel the TF site consists of more P4P girls than the rest (my own experience) and DIA sth in between (more LB's in DIA). I don't have the same profilename in any of the 3 sites. I have been busted once from one TLL girl but then it is just moving on.
Discussions about my financial status, living arrangements, arrivel time and so on I leave out until I need to present sth. This from tactical reasons so I can twist these arrangements into what I feel the girls need to hear. For obvious reasons I will not tell a non P4P I mostly stay in Soi 11 as normal Bangkok girls would not even set their foot in that area. Maby once in a while they will BTS themself between some of the shoppingmalls in the area but that is it. So when I am relatively sure they are not P4P and they want to meet up I will travel outside the worst monger area. If I can smell the pussy i will even change hotel to a outside sex area in BKK..
One good advice (atleast it works for me) is to twist communication in a direction stating you have relatively short time in BKK (or wherever you might stay). This will leave some preasure on the girls and since you leave shortly (this don't necessarily have to be true) you can get pussy service (outside the normal timeframe regarding traditional Thaigirls) as the girl most likely want you to remember them (you have to be tactical in how you play this game) and not will keep you wait until you come back. Sometimes this works and sometimes not.
So to Blue Nose: If you get girl to inroom visit you in Nana Hotel and / or PH Hotel (Pattis) you don't even have to wonder if the girls are P4P bcs they most certainly are. No question about it. Do not matter what their profile state. A non P4P traditional normal working girl would never ever come to that area. Even hotel staffs in that area I feel you can meet up with for mongering action purposes but they will expect some sort of compensation, hehe.
I just turned 40yrs:-)
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[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1346224]You bring up a good question. I am white, in my late 50's, in good shape, have a lot of money, stay in nice hotels. Don't ask for sex upfront, etc. I have so many girls who want to meet me in Thailand, that I do not have the time to meet all of them.[/QUOTE]I'm younger than you; I have the same experience. I'm only on one of the big sites. I get 2 to 5 messages a day. Girls contacting me, not replying. Most are non-pros. Unfortunately it's useless; very few of them are beautiful. I have had the account for a long time but I met almost no one from there.
Is TLL better?
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Finally arrived
I will make this short as I am just getting started. Arrived last night and went to my hotel of choice, LL. Was greated at the street and happily welcomed. After unpacking I needed to find some food. Went down to the bar and magic happened. I found a lady there who I had gotten to know last December. I remembered her and she even knew my name. Had the recomended susage roll with mashed and vegetable. Highly recommended. At that point I needed some relax time and off I went with my lady friend in hand. She had never disappointed before and this time was a success also.
Today need to clean up the body and I have an appontment. More details to follow after the day is over.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1346226]Exactly what I thought, You can't learn the culture (if that is even your goal) by visiting Bangkok and Pattaya. This is the typical trip of a *monger.
My guess is that you will not return to Thailand, no way, especially seeing the places your staying at.
You could not have picked Worse accommodation (I wonder who suggested you these hotels) :
Nana hotel? Overpriced shithole, dirty as can be: a place to Avoid.
Penthouse? Seriously? You're going to a place that is notorious for having mostly Ladyboys?[/QUOTE]Well, I don't think it should come as any surprise that this is a purpose of the trip, given that this is, after all, a site dedicated to that sort of pursuit. Realistically, I don't think anyone can expect to learn the culture of a new country in a seven day trip, irrespective of which locations are visited. If not those two hotels, then which ones would you suggest?
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[QUOTE=Mackin;1346407]Had the recomended susage roll with mashed and vegetable. Highly recommended.[/QUOTE]Be very careful when promoting the Sausage at LL, I did that before and that Bestard Giotto said I was too much into sausages and stuff.
Next time, try the Beef Roulade or Even the new Pasta Dishes! As much as I like to give that old Austrian Kurt Wagner some Grief, his food isn't all that bad.
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Food at LL!
Actually I try and stop in every trip because I quite like the thai food in the sports bar accompanied by an ice cold singha or chang. I've had a lot of authenthic food in various parts of Thailand and the LL chef seems to stick to dishing out fairly tasty and genuine thai dishes!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1346413]Be very careful when promoting the Sausage at LL, I did that before and that Bestard Giotto said I was too much into sausages and stuff.
Next time, try the Beef Roulade or Even the new Pasta Dishes! As much as I like to give that old Austrian Kurt Wagner some Grief, his food isn't all that bad.[/QUOTE]
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Fake profiles on TF
Lately, I've been seeing a lot of fake profiles on Thai Friendly. It's either their English is too good or the profile is trying too hard to sound like Broken English, its pretty obvious.
Having said that, I ventured a few days in the early evening with time to kill and tried to find a decent free lancer, but nothing was to be found in the neighborhood of Gulliver's and beer garden. It was nothing but a sausage fest of beer drinkers, pool shooters, and not a lot of girls at either location.
Ran into a hot street walker while heading to Insomnia, I messaged her the next day and her reply was how much you give me? Never a good sign as it seems they try to see if you will offer more than they're willing to accept. I asked how much you want, and she said 2k. I countered 1K. She said NO. Ok. 1.5K. NO. LOL
LT was 4K and she wouldn't budge on either ST or LT fees. Not sure where all the hot 1k baht girls are. Pattaya? LOL
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[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1346451]Lately, I've been seeing a lot of fake profiles on Thai Friendly. It's either their English is too good or the profile is trying too hard to sound like Broken English, its pretty obvious.
Ran into a hot street walker while heading to Insomnia, I messaged her the next day and her reply was how much you give me? Never a good sign as it seems they try to see if you will offer more than they're willing to accept. I asked how much you want, and she said 2k. I countered 1K. She said NO. Ok. 1.5K. NO. LOL
LT was 4K and she wouldn't budge on either ST or LT fees. Not sure where all the hot 1k baht girls are. Pattaya? LOL[/QUOTE]So what do the pictures of the ladyboy have to do with any of this?
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[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1346256]I'm younger than you; I have the same experience. I'm only on one of the big sites. I get 2 to 5 messages a day. Girls contacting me, not replying. Most are non-pros. Unfortunately it's useless; very few of them are beautiful. I have had the account for a long time but I met almost no one from there.
Is TLL better?[/QUOTE]Like I said before, you have to stay on it. It takes time and some work.
Many of the lookers get 30-40 dudes a day messaging them. So you have to keep messaging, get their personal emails, or even phone numbers.
Also, if you really think she seems hot enough, make a commitment. Tell her,"I will be in BKK on this date, want to meet for a coffee or drink". I have never had a Thai girl not show if you get her to commit.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1346453]So what do the pictures of the ladyboy have to do with any of this?[/QUOTE]That's the gal who asked for 2k ST and 4K LT. Not a ladyboy.
I believe she's a regular at Thermae.