Policies on STDs and thanks for
[QUOTE=Optimist;2265419]Nick. Nice to agree with you. Merry Christmas
2. I do not understand why do clients continue to think the girls are required to take tests for STDs.
As for the idea that we are avoiding discussion of STDs, I don't see much point in such discussions. If someone says they picked up an std, it will be impossible to know which girl, or probably even which club, was the source. The most practicable way to avoid getting an std is to practice sex in accordance with the July 2017 law, and to prevent further problems, to get tested at least four times a year. Everything else is just hot air.
For completeness, I volunteer the info that I picked up an infection (not at Sharks) diagnosed in November 2018. I do not know which club I got it from but have told as many of the girls I went with as possible. I am not sure this kind of info on the forum helps anyone, but I put it here as an example.[/QUOTE]A couple of points: First, in Artemis the girls are most definitely required to have tests and indeed the club brings its own team in once per week to get the girls tested. If they fail they are given the required drugs (assuming its the usual STDs treatable by drugs) and are not allowed to work in the club for 7 days / nights. In fairness to one girl who refused to give my a BBBJ post July 2017 she said it was nothing to do with trying to get more money for her. She did not want to risk losing a week's income. Can't really argue with that. I appreciate this might be rare example of a club forcing testing. But it does happen. Girls who miss tests in Artemis are also not allowed to work until they take and pass one. That was the policy pre July 2017 but it remains so. I have a regular who I see out of the club who still works there and confirms for me that this is how it works.
Secondly. Massive respect to Optimist for his bravery and willingness to share this personal information. I've posted about STD risks in the past and been roundly attacked and told that some guys have had 5000 rooms and never caught a cold let alone an infection. It's almost like guys think STDs are banned from FKKs! It has always surprised me that it is not more common. A decent looking girl in one of these clubs can easily work for 10 hours in rooms giving maybe up to 20 BBBJs or more in a day (we all know some girls get guys off in 10 minutes, quick wash and on to the next! So the risk of picking something up for the girls must be quite high. But guys are unlikely to post "oh dear. Got an STD last week here". Do you know it must be from an FKK Optimist or could it have been from the RLD or elsewhere? Just wondered what percentage chance of it being in an FKK. I know it isn't really important. I'm just interested!
As for posts saying "don't go to FKKs if you don't want to catch anything" that's just crazy. I'm afraid the positives of visiting a venue with 100+ totally naked girls mainly under 30 is far too tempting to just play completely safe. Just unrealistic if you are a guy with blood in your veins who likes sex with pretty girls. But being careful is possible. I've only just stopped giving DATY unless I have been with a girl a few times. It's impossible to inspect a vagina for sores. And getting one of those vaginal condoms out is just a killer! As for receiving BBBJ. Sure its a much greater risk than CBJ but save for using Sagamis (hard to get) its so much better.
All of the above is why I won't go to Dietz. Not just because of the apparently poor facilities (which I wouldn't like either) but because AO is not for me. Far too risky to get something fairly serious from someone who is having unprotected sex with that many guys.
Well done again to Optimist. It shows it does happen and we should all be a little more cautious.
January Line Up Issues & Mandy.
We all know the L / you can sometimes be poor in early-mid January with ladies still on their extended holiday breaks.
I've never been in January but I have an opportunity to visit for just a day on 11th and I know one of my favourite ladies will definitely be working so I'm tempted.
However after meeting Mandy last month for the first time after many failed attempts I would love to see her again, she ticks all my boxes.
Does anyone have information as to whether Mandy is likely to be back at Sharks on the 11th? (She told me she usually works Tues, Wed, Fri & Sat).
I'm from the UK so to get a cheap flight I will have to book very soon.
If Mandy will definitely be at Sharks I will go, 100%, but if she is unlikely to be there I must decide whether to go and gamble on the L / you (although knowing one of my favourite ladies will be there) or waiting until later in the year to break my 2019 duck.
Sorry for the ramble.
Thanks.