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[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1934151]Sorry, I don't get your point. Do you mean that the average in Europe is lower or higher?[/QUOTE]I'm talking about your numbers, the average in Europe seems very low. Its the number at the end of the quote below, 1500 euro per month. That's 375 euro's per week, 75 euro's per day. Assuming an eight hour shift that's a little over 9 euro's per hour. That might be 'normal' for someone working a menial job at the lowest pay scale but there's no way that's the "average" salary of Europe. If I google the average yearly salary in the US I get a straight answer of just over $50 k. I did find the map on this link interesting, it shows the average monthly income and you can see in the map grid what countries are paying far less than others.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage[/URL]
[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1934007]Now, a girl working at 7/11 get 7. 000/10. 000 baht (with overtime) monthly, wich is about 260.00 Euro. A girl working in a factory like Chevrolet, get 15.000 baht (overtime) wich is 384.00 Euro. A Bank employee get 20,000 = about 500.00 Eur, as an head nurse working at Bangkok Pattaya Hospital, so let's say that the average of salary in Thailand is 15.000 baht (384,00 Eur), while the average of salary in Europe is about 1. 500 euro (about 58.000 baht) .[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1935511]You sound like someone who has been burned before, Marco.[/QUOTE]Yeah, maybe has a lot of anger, some hatred and who knows what else bottled up inside.
I'm done with this dude! I can see a person like this getting arrested for something or the other. Just a matter of time.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1935511]You sound like someone who has been burned before, Marco.[/QUOTE]I think his last post is spot on and sage advice for any dude in LOS. Don't know why you guys are being so negative towards him.
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[QUOTE=MumbaiGuy;1935444]Do they let you change your hostess everyday? I was told that you have to book a hostess for a minimum of 3 days.[/QUOTE]Every day the girl, can not be exchanged, but if a girl not correspond to your expectations, you need to complaint and exchange her immediately, you can read.[URL]http://www.thai-sexy-holiday.com/hostesses/[/URL].
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[QUOTE=ALion2;1935197]It happend to me several times when laying in my bed, after I have Fxxxed a lady, she tells me to keep quiet because she needs to call / receive a call from the (cheated, stupid) moneysending "boyfriend" abroad. After telling him she loves him, she is at home in her bed and that she feel tired and need to sleep, she turnes to me and asks me to fxxk her again.
In the morning the gets up early to go to the bank or western union to pick up the latest paycheck from any of the cheated "boyfriends".
What she tells me about them? She thinks they are stupid to send her money for nothing, "but good for me" as they use to say.
[/QUOTE]One of my favorite bargirls, with very hot body, was working weekends only and intermittently in a gogo to finance her studies and her younger sister's studies as well in another province (not in Bangkok). I do believe she really is a degree student in Accounting. Then she has stopped gogo working for 2 or 3 months now. So I wonder where her money is coming from. She could easily be receiving regular monthly payments from one or more guys now. Some guys are willing to support girls so they won't have to work as a hooker. She is very pretty and hot but in a classy way. Used hook a customer always within a few minutes, no effort. I hate it because she doesn't show up to work the bar anymore. However she is a horny type that likes sex, so I don't see her going too long without a fuck. Her LINE App profile pic is currently a Barbie doll wearing skimpy sexy lingerie. So I Guess that LINE account ID is for her customers or guys, and maybe a different one for her family etc. Finally she returned LINE app message late last night, but with a one liner. So no clue what is going on with her. Who the fuck is financing her? Shit! Must have a boyfriend or benefactor or something. Could be a rich guy. I hate it when guys manage to get hot girls off the market. I don't care if they send money but the girl still works.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1935588]I think his last post is spot on and sage advice for any dude in LOS. Don't know why you guys are being so negative towards him.[/QUOTE]Thanks my friend but I don't really mind what some people write about me. Funny that some guy here will be happy to see me in prison, soon or later (then I'm the bad guy) , when I'm actually trying to give advices to avoid jail and problems.
Being in Thailand for almost 34 years I never had problems with girls, as I wrote before, I've always treated them with dignity and respect. I can quietly say instead that the majority of foreigners who had problems with the law was due to wrong women relationship (when the things go to right way). In other cases I've seen farangs lose anything, jumping down from the View Talay building, disapper in some isanian village, shot death by their wife's Thai boyfriend (like Steve Miller, a Kiwi guy I knew who has been killed in 2006).
I really don't understand why some people here are so "oversensitive" when the issue goes to "don't fall in love with hookers".
Did I say something wrong? Do these guys fall in love? Sorry, is this a World Sex Guide, a forum where people like me pay to have sex, or a marriage dating forum?
Have I been burned out before? Not personally, but I've seen many friends or people I know who have been to. That's where my advice come from. I could not imagine hurting some gentleman in this forum with something like "do not involve yourself sentimentally with a girl working in Pattaya". What a nasty thing I said.
Last thing I do not understand. Instead of report my posts to the Admin to get me banned out from this forum, why don't you ignore me? It will cost you nothing. Go to my profile, click on "ignore list" and. Boom. No more post from the bad guy writing so many bulls.
You don't do that, you prefer to have me out of here. Nobody here wants to crash your dreams, your fairy tale, but sometime you should take it like a man, even if the truth hurts.
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[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1935695]Steve Miller, a Kiwi guy I knew who has been killed in 2006.[/QUOTE]Steve was a delightful person. Always upbeat, friendly, and a joy to be around. That was indeed a tragedy.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1935699]Steve was a delightful person. Always upbeat, friendly, and a joy to be around. That was indeed a tragedy.[/QUOTE]A great guy, typical new Zealander, always positive and friendly. She commissioned the homicide to her Thai boyfriend to get 800 thousand baht from Steve's bank account. I still remember when on Pattaya news channel they show Steve's mother in tears at Police Station asking the "handcuffed wife" : "- why did you do that? We have treated you like a daughter. -" The girl laughed on her in front of the camera. Still remember, hard to forget.
I've heard she was released in 2011.
[url]http://www.perryclee.com/248/[/url]
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[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1935711]A great guy, typical new zelander, always positive and friendly. She commissioned the homicide to her thai boyfriend to get 800 thousand baht from Steve's bank account. I still remember when on Pattaya news channel they show Steve's mother in tears at Police Station asking the "handcuffed wife" : "- why did you do that? We have treated you like a daughter. -" The girl laughed on her in front of the camera. Still remember, hard to forget.
I've heard she was released in 2011.
[url]http://www.perryclee.com/248/[/url][/QUOTE]Hard to believe it could happen for just 800 K Baht, not a massive amount of money. I have been with a Thai GF for over 11 years. She is a moderately devote Buddhist. Is not even keen to kill a mosquito. Let it have its fill first and it will go away. I am sure I am far more use to her alive, than dead. My GF does not even know how much money I have. Doesn't need to know. I am not sure she is sufficient usefulness to me. This is normal for long term relationships. Always better not to have a wife. If my GF doesn't need me any more, she can just ask me to go. It's that simple. I did not know how much money she had either, till recently found out she had accumulated 300K Baht, now been used up on home construction.
Meanwhile we hear stories about the Pattaya Flying Club, all those Farangs that went off high buildings, not of their own volition we assume.
Interesting the article suggests he trusted his GF of only 5 months duration and used her bank account. That is a definite stupidity. I know it is hard to get a Thai Bank Account right now, but I have 3 Thai accounts for a long time now.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1935588]I think his last post is spot on and sage advice for any dude in LOS. Don't know why you guys are being so negative towards him.[/QUOTE]I wasn't being negative to Marco. Just sounded like he is talking from personal experience.
I am actually quite flattered by his post since I must be a young good looking guy!!! My girl has pics of me all over her real Facebook and she has a 60+ year old balding Japanese (or Korean) sponsor. I guess I fall into the eaten alive category.
Seriously, not in disagreement with most of your post but to say every single girl in Pattaya (or Thailand for that matter) is like this can not be the case. One would have to think there is at least 10-20 good girls out of 30 million.
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[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1935711] She commissioned the homicide to her thai boyfriend to get 800 thousand baht from Steve's bank account. [/QUOTE]Sorry if I am misunderstanding this sentence. She told her Thai boyfriend to tell Steve to hand over 800 k or die? Or she previously asked Steve for 800 k and he wouldn't give it to her so she put out a hit on Steve? In either case, Steve would have had time to go to the police or take matters in his own hands.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1935736]I wasn't being negative to Marco. Just sounded like he is talking from personal experience.
I am actually quite flattered by his post since I must be a young good looking guy!!! My girl has pics of me all over her real Facebook and she has a 60+ year old balding Japanese (or Korean) sponsor. I guess I fall into the eaten alive category.
Seriously, not in disagreement with most of your post but to say every single girl in Pattaya (or Thailand for that matter) is like this can not be the case. One would have to think there is at least 10-20 good girls out of 30 million.[/QUOTE]I would say the vast majority of dudes I have known through the years had bad experiences with bar-girls GFs. That being said the success rate with "good girls" is really not that much better. Yes, some couples have been together for many years, but I would say for the most part that is due to the man being far more flexible and being able to adapt and of course foot the bill.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1935725]Hard to believe it could happen for just 800 K Baht, not a massive amount of money. I have been with a Thai GF for over 11 years. She is a moderately devote Buddhist. Is not even keen to kill a mosquito. Let it have its fill first and it will go away. I am sure I am far more use to her alive, than dead. My GF does not even know how much money I have. Doesn't need to know. I am not sure she is sufficient usefulness to me. This is normal for long term relationships. Always better not to have a wife. If my GF doesn't need me any more, she can just ask me to go. It's that simple. I did not know how much money she had either, till recently found out she had accumulated 300K Baht, now been used up on home construction.
Meanwhile we hear stories about the Pattaya Flying Club, all those Farangs that went off high buildings, not of their own volition we assume.
Interesting the article suggests he trusted his GF of only 5 months duration and used her bank account. That is a definite stupidity. I know it is hard to get a Thai Bank Account right now, but I have 3 Thai accounts for a long time now.[/QUOTE]Excuse me sir, you've been living in Thailand for so many years and you still haven't realized that most thais will never be able to make 800 K baht during their lifetime?
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[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1935711]A great guy, typical new zelander, always positive and friendly. She commissioned the homicide to her thai boyfriend to get 800 thousand baht from Steve's bank account. I still remember when on Pattaya news channel they show Steve's mother in tears at Police Station asking the "handcuffed wife" : "- why did you do that? We have treated you like a daughter. -" The girl laughed on her in front of the camera. Still remember, hard to forget.
I've heard she was released in 2011.
[url]http://www.perryclee.com/248/[/url][/QUOTE]This happens A LOT more than we think. Guys who let girls know anything whatsoever about their financial situation or put bikes / cars / houses / land / savings in the name of their Thai GFs are just begging for trouble or disappointment. The best marks are actually not white guys, but rather Japanese. When I was in the Philippines, I read story after story of Japanese husbands who were quietly killed without reporting their deaths so that government pension checks would keep coming. There were guys who would come back from a trip to their home country only to find that "their" property had been sold by the wife and she had absconded back to the province. And as the story shows, it is easier than most think to get away with such a crime. Another less foreigner or two does not mean anything at all in Asia. Local families trump the foreigner every time. If the family of this Steve guy knew which side of justice was up, they would simply commission an appropriate punishment for the girl they had treated like a daughter. Enjoy Thailand, AsianRain.
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[QUOTE=AsianRain;1935804]This happens A LOT more than we think. Guys who let girls know anything whatsoever about their financial situation or put bikes / cars / houses / land / savings in the name of their Thai GFs are just begging for trouble or disappointment. [/QUOTE]This is a Catch 22 situation. Obviously if a guy lives in Thailand and does not work a girl can easily assume he has some sort of sound financial base. Given the Visa requirements the Thai government has now outed the man that he has a minimum of 700 k baht in order to retire here. There is no way to hide that from a girl.
Personally I am not in Thailand to get a girlfriend. In fact, the last thing I want is a girlfriend or a wife in Thailand or anywhere else.
[QUOTE=Ziggy00;1935801]Excuse me sir, you've been living in Thailand for so many years and you still haven't realized that most thais will never be able to make 800 K baht during their lifetime?[/QUOTE]
Let's take an average working girl who works solely at iBar. Let's say she works 5-7 days per week and gets barfined roughly half the time. So we have 3 sessions at 2000-2500 each = 6k-7500 per week = 300-375k per year. 800k is attainable in 2+ years. Now if we're talking high end gogo girls like I go for where Japanese pay them 5-10k per night and they have a Sponsor, 800k is easily achieved in 1 year. No girl with that income is coming after me personally for my tiddly winks money.