Manila / Hong Kong Trip Report
following are the exploits of my 2 week trip through manila and hong kong. i am posting in both forums. before heading on my journey, i researched this forum extensively. i would like to thank all the contributors on this board, your insight helped make my trip a tremendous success.
for those of you who know this area, you won’t find anything new in these posts….i took the road well traveled. for those of you heading this way for the first time, hopefully this will give you a flavor for the scene. although embarrassed to admit it, i was too lazy to learn a single word of tagalog or cantonese. i went through the trip speaking english only.
this is an extremely long report. i did it to try and contribute back to the forum which offered me so much and it also helped me think through and remember my trip.
if i can offer a single piece of advice before heading to these parts, it would be rtff. the knowledge, insight, and accuracy of the posts is truly amazing.
day 1 – sunday - manila
peninsula
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for those of you who like a nice hotel, the peninsula is a fantastic choice. i would rate the hotel as having a 5 star lobby, 3-4 star bedrooms, and a 5 star bathroom. i rate the rooms a little lower simply because they offer only the standard bed, couch, minibar, and desk (i was there during their renovation and i understand some rooms are now better). the service at the hotel is impeccable and i believe i heard more “good afternoon sirs” walking through the door and up to my room in one afternoon than i would hear in a year back home. for around usd$100 per night it is great value. one nice surprise at the peninsula (i don’t know if this was only my room or all rooms) was they have oversized safes there, nice to have if you are worried about leaving a laptop out when you have guests.
as an aside if you are coming from america you will find even the prices of the hotel minibar seem reasonable….this is just an illusion. for 3 days i was convincing myself that a beer from the minibar or bar is only us$4 so it is no biggie if i drink it. don’t get sucked in like i did, walk across the street to mercury drugs and you can buy some san migs & water to keep in your room for us$0.50 each. trust me, you can find a better way to spend your hard earned cash in manila than on overpriced minibar drinks.
greenhill
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on the advice of another poster from this board i took a taxi to greenhill to pick up a cell phone. i couldn’t find a good deal on phones in makati so heading to greenhill is a better option. on the third floor there is a market area where they sell used phones. i ended up paying 2000 pesos for a cell phone with some prepaid calling time and text messages. this was excellent advice i had received, a cell phone is essential for a mongerer to stay in touch staying in touch while in manila. everyone in manila is addicted to text messaging.
evening time
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knowing i wouldn’t be searching for company this evening, i ended up just going to the hard rock café in makati for a bite to eat. i ended up coming here a few times, not just because of the good food and atmosphere (they had a band every night) but they also had this gorgeous bartender who i considered “the fluffer”. she did an amazing job of making sure she would have a little chat with every guy sitting at the bar and then move on, before you knew it she had done her rounds and she would be back chatting with you. at one point we were chatting about what i should do while in the philippines and i thought i heard say, you should do this, you should do that, you should do me….wait a second, did i hear that correctly? i will never know if i heard her right, but at that point i knew this would be a good trip.
it was about 9:30pm and i walked back to the peninsula and through the lobby, in front of me heading to the elevators was a 50 year old mongerer with a 20 yr old barfine on his arm. as he was walking in there were some arrogant looking 60 yr old american ladies in the lobby restaurant staring him down, at this moment they probably just realized where their own husbands are. i chuckled to myself knowing who i would rather be banging when i was 50.
day 2 – monday - manila
phoenix gentlemen’s club
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rested up it was now time to get to business, mongering. given that it was my first full day i had some pent up demand and felt i should get a quick load off, i felt phoenix would be a good choice. it is located on antonio arnaiz ave (pasay road) across the street from the new world renaissance and in the roman suites hotel. as has been previously reported there are no signs on the building for either phoenix or for the roman suites. the best way to find it is to find the jvc and ibank signs, there are 2 buildings between these signs. phoenix is in the building on the right if you are facing the buildings.
when i walk up to the reception desk i immediately see a sign, it says something like “massage is our business, we don’t offer sexual services”. i am thinking oh shit, the guide has never let me down, how could it be so wrong about something so fundamental. i hide this disappointment and opt to go through with it anyhow. the papasan shows me the fishtank, there are only 4 in there and all are average quality. not wanting to be too fussy i just went with the papasan’s suggestion (i just wanted to get a quick load out afterall). i pay the room charge of 1200 peso’s and head off to the room. i am joined shortly by my selection. a quick solo shower and we get down to the massage. it is the typical weak massage you get in this type of establishment. the massage works around my body and then moves to my privates, at this point i realize that sign in the reception area is just a formality and the guide was correct afterall. at this point she offers the “extras”. i ask how much and she says 2000 pesos, we settle on 1700 and get down to business. out comes a condom for a cbj which was a little bit of a disappointment, but i don’t argue. nothing too incredible happened during this session, but i got my first load off. mission accomplished.
edsa
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evening time and it was time to try the much reported on edsa. the plan was to get there early enough so i could be back at the peninsula before 11pm. i had read in the little guide in the hotel room that guests weren’t permitted after 11. i didn’t necessarily believe this, but i didn’t want to test the policy so early in my trip. i let the taxi driver know it was on the corner of edsa (ed-sah) and roxas (ro-has) across from the heritage hotel. he knew of the place and simply referred to it as the “entertainment complex”. as you drive up to the complex you will see signs for all the bars from the street (bullets and arrows, cotton club, space girls, firehouse, pitstop,…). you enter through a single entrance and then can enter the individual bars from there. i ignore all the people at the individual bar doors and look for the names of the bars i want to go in, first choice is firehouse. i walk in and am immediately led to a front row seat. i don’t argue although most customers appear to be seated at the table’s further back. the atmosphere is a stage where 20 or so scantily clad girls are dancing. if you like something you let the mamasan know and she will beckon her to sit with you. the lineup was decent, but i knew i wanted to try another bar or two so i had a couple beers and left.
i wandered over to the next door and went into bullets and arrows. similar setup with around 20 girls dancing on stage, the only difference is they are dressed in cowboy attire. again a decent lineup, but 1 girl catches my eye. she is smiling at me, dancing, and generally appears to be having fun. given that i knew i was shopping for an overnighter attitude was going to be important, i have the mamasan call her down. beware fellow newbies, once you have a girl sit down with you be prepared for the barrage of offers from various people….flowers for the girl, photos with the girl, drinks for the girl, food for the girl,… i knew i would be barfining her so i don’t mind buying her drinks and food. she ordered some food which i don’t think she even wanted (or she didn’t want to eat without me eating). she ended up giving her chicken fingers to the mamasan, waitress, friends,… who gobbled it up like it was their first meal of the day. sadly, it may have been.
i paid the barfine of 1000 pesos and agreed to 3500 overnight, off we go back to the hotel. determined to try and find an honest cab i knew i would have to go down the cab line. the first cab, no meter & wanted 300 peso’s. why would i pay 300 pesos for a return trip which cost me 100 peso’s to get there? no deal. the second cab wanted 200 peso’s for an unmetered trip, no deal. finally the third driver was willing to use the meter……surprise surprse, it ended up costing 100 peso’s including a quick stop at a 7-11 to pick up some drinks & snacks. make sure the cabs use the meter.
we made it back to the hotel before 11 and walked straight through the lobby and go up the elevator, no questions by any of the hotel staff and no evil stares by anybody in the hotel restaurant. up in the room and we enjoy some drinks & music before jumping into the foreplay. i think the jetlag had thrown my timing off a little (at least that is my excuse) as it took me a long time to get it up. during the extended foreplay i learned the dangers of a twin sized bed. as we were rolling, flipping, and bouncing around working on getting the little guy ready for action we fell off the bed 3 or 4 times. funny when it happens, but it doesn’t do a lot to enhance the “moment” especially when i am already struggling for wood. finally we were able to make things work we had some standard sex and then a well deserved rest.
morning comes and we both awake. after cleaning up a bit it was time for the morning session. i was pretty worried about how long it took me to make things happen the night before and was elated when she got me hard quickly. not wanting to lose my woody i opted to quickly put on the cover and jam it in. this time my performance was basically the opposite as the night before….think back to when you are 18 yrs old….. i pretty much blew my load as soon as i threw it in. i am still clinging to the excuse that it was my jetlag that threw my timing off so badly both during the evening and the morning. knowing i would not be getting a nomination for sexual ambassador, i decided it was time to cut her loose. i’ll tell you, this girl just didn’t want to leave it took some pretty heavy hinting before she realized it was time to go.
at the peninsula there is a 2nd floor exit which exits onto ayala ave. not wanting to do the walk of shame through the lobby with this girl i opted to take her to the 2nd floor exit, thinking there is only 1 guard there and i can deal with that. i walk her out the door and down to the street. i have seen less emotion when breaking up with girlfriends, i honestly thought this girl was going to break into tears right there on the sidewalk. i know a wise mongerer once said “you don’t pay them to sleep with you, you pay them to leave”. apparently not all girls live by this adage.
finally she goes on her way and i walk back in the same 2nd floor exit. the same guard who let me out lets me back in. he walks me to the elevator and pushes the button. he stands there right next to me like he is an old buddy eagerly expecting me to tell him all the details of my exploits. i say nothing. finally he musters up some words hoping to spur me on to spill the beans and says “so, she gone now”. i just chuckle and say “ya, she was nice” and step onto the elevator.
day 3 – tuesday - manila
filipina hearts
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tuesday turned out to be a non mongering day, but taught me a valuable lesson:
if you are in manila for a week or less don’t waste your time and money with girls from filipina heart.
i know this could be debated and i definitely know in hindsight that i made a lot of mistakes, but what follows today and the upcoming thursday is how a series of screw ups by yours truly led to me wasting both my time and money trying this out.
it all started when i was planning my trip. my goals were to a) experience the best manila had to offer as well as b) experience a variety of mongering options. i felt filipina heart was an alternative mongering option and i needed to give it a try. i also felt a side benefit would be knowing someone local when i arrived.
it is easy to meet people on fh, you simply put an ad out there and the girls will come. the greater challenge will be weeding out the ones you don’t want to meet. granted it was fun meeting all these girls and chatting with them online as i prepared for my trip, it helped keep me focused and looking forward to heading to manila. that being said, i wanted to ensure i limited the number of people i met due to time constraints.
i ended up selecting only one girl that i wanted to meet in person. there were a lot of girls i met on fh who i had a tough time carrying a conversation with. it felt like i was constantly asking them questions and they were giving back a lot of 1 word answers. i understand their english is limited however i certainly didn’t want to have a lot of dates where this was the case. the one girl i decided to meet up with seemed to be fun, interesting, and we had some good conversations online. i didn’t screen her to ensure she would sleep with me, that is not the type of person i am. i can easily get that at one of the bars with a pro, here i was looking for something different….more of a gfe.
as i said, i made a lot of mistakes with this girl. my first mistake was agreeing to see her multiple times. this wasn’t intentional, it just happened during one of our online conversations. she was helping me plan some things to do in manila and “i am going to tagatay” turned into “we are going to tagatay” and next thing i knew i was committed to multiple dates with this girl. obviously a rookie mongering mistake.
one last piece of background. in planning this trip to tagatay this girl was kind enough to approach one of her friends with a car who was willing to drive us out there for the day as long as i paid for the gas. i had accepted this offer at the time, but as things drew closer i started to be uncomfortable with this idea. call me paranoid, but the thought of driving into the middle of nowhere with a car full of complete strangers didn’t sit well. especially when my credit limit on a single credit card would exceed all their annual salaries combined. to help mitigate this i was planning on reiterating an offer to rent a car and driver for the day. i figured spending us$100 on this would at least buy me some peace of mind.
enough background, today was the day i was to finally meet her. i intentionally made it a couple days after i arrived just in case i took to this girl and wanted to spend some more time with her. i wanted to ensure i already had some mongering under my belt. today’s plan was basic, meet at starbucks in greenbelt for a coffee after she finished work at 3. nothing more.
true to form, she shows up 30 minutes late and brings a couple friends. when i first saw her my initial thinking was “she sure is photogenic”; meaning she looked a hell of a lot better on her web cam than she did in real life. what about plan b, the friends? no chance, they were even worse. don’t get me wrong she was not horrible, but if i compared her to some of the girls i saw at edsa i would have put her in the bottom 30%. oh well i thought, maybe we will totally hit it off and she will blind me with her personality. unfortunately this didn’t work either as conversation was slightly awkward and forced (not to be unexpected in this situation).
meeting for a coffee turns into heading to a movie. my next mistake was not cutting my losses at this point. i knew i would be going on a day trip to tagatay on thursday with her and i was not prepared to back out of that (another mistake) so i decided to try and make the best of it. after the movie we have another coffee and the night is done. no action, no attempted action, i didn’t want to bang her, i didn’t want to bang her friends, no chemistry, she didn’t want to bang me….nothing except another date coming up thursday.
one last piece piece of bad luck….her friend with the car who was going to take us to tagatay called and could no longer get away from work. of course my 1 solid excuse to get out of this date was now gone as i had already reiterated the offer to rent a car and driver. i was now stuck with having to go on a second date in addition to paying us$100 for the car and driver. just not my day.
day 4 – wednesday - manila
air force 1
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air force 1 was on the agenda for this afternoon. i hop in a cab and of course he won’t turn on the meter. i weigh my options…he knows the place, it is rush hour, i don’t see any other cabs, and its raining. i know i am getting screwed at 300 pesos, but decide to go anyhow. i make one stipulation and that is if he drives me back we use the meter, he agrees (lol, like this will ever happen).
air force 1 is by the airport, there are 2 parts, a ktv upstairs and a massage parlor called flight 168 downstairs. when we get there the ktv isn’t open yet (doesn’t open until 7) and it doesn’t take much convincing to get me to go to the massage parlor.
they walk me to the selection area and there are about 20 girls behind glass. i choose #11 a stunning 19 yr old spinner nursing student from quezon. what follows is the most incredible massage i had ever had. for you massage experts it would probably be standard fare, but for those of us used to the typical lame massages this was an incredible mind blowing, spine tingling, and bone cracking experience. suddenly the 18 hrs of travel seemed all worthwhile. it was heaven.
no price is discussed; she just says there will extra services after. i am slightly paranoid envisioning a 20k bill and the mafia after me, but she cracks another joint and i feel at ease again. the massage finishes, we have a little break and she jumps into the “extras”. a nice slow bbbj and then she hops on reverse cow girl. she is fantastic. i want to see her face and ask her to turn around, now we are cowgirl for a while. all of a sudden she in the sweetest broken english she says “i am cumming”. the way she said it i couldn’t help but laugh. we finish in mish, i ask her how much almost afraid to hear the answer. she says whatever you want, i ask what is normal and she says 2000. at this moment i am considering proposing, so instead of negotiating i happily give her the pesos.
there is a little bar at the entrance to flight 168 so i stop in for a couple of beers and relish in the moment. i text charlie the cab driver a couple times, no answer, who cares, i will find my own way back.
wednesday night i decide to take a break from mongering. i have to be up early the next morning to head to tagatay with the filipino heart girl and i know my willpower when i hit a mongering establishment is low.
day 5 – thursday - manila
tagatay / filipino heart
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thursday morning i wake up bright and early for my second date with the filipino heart girl. i had reserved a car to take us out there and it was costing me 700 peso’s /hr. i still believe i was more comfortable doing this than driving out into the middle of nowhere with a carload of strangers. as usual the fh girl shows up 30 min late with her friends, normally this is expected, unfortunately this just meant i pissed away 350 peso’s in car charges while standing there waiting like a moron.
we spend the day seeing the “peoples park” which could be a real nice place however they don’t maintain it so it is now a little run down. we head for a lunch and eat it in a different park and make our way to see taal volcano. of course when you hit taal volcano, the expenses start to run up. not so bad if you are paying for 1 or 2, but when you are paying for 4 it starts to add up. it ended up costing a 2000 peso’s for a boat ride to the volcano & another 2500 peso’s to rent guided horses to take us up to the volcano. sadly the volcano wasn’t all that impressive (i think costa rican volcano tours are better) it just seemed like a big lake in the middle of a crater.
after the volcano tour we head back to manila. once in manila, she went her way and i went my way. i didn’t want to bang her, she didn’t want to bang me, and the conversation was ok at best. of course later that evening i got a text message from her saying she had a great time, it was her first time on a horse, she will never forget it, blah, blah, blah….she even asked to go out again to show me around manila bay. i had to chuckle when reading this she truly was a professional “escort”. unfortunately it just meant escorting people around town.
in summary i will state again: if you are in manila for a week or less don’t waste your time with filipino heart girls.
again, i admit i made a lot of mistakes along the way with this girl and it ended up costing me a lot of time and money
- wasted tuesday afternoon and evening with her at starbucks and a movie.
- wasted a wednesday evening because i had to be up early for our thursday daytrip.
- wasted all day thursday with her.
- spent 7000 peso’s on the car & driver for the day (we were late coming back so of course it cost me more than expected plus a tip of course).
- spent 750 peso’s on lunch in tagatay
- spent 2000 peso’s on the boat to taal volacano
- spent 2500 peso’s on the horses to go up taal volacano.
- spent more on incidentals like hats and crap.
so for my investment of 13k peso and 2 days i got no sex (nor did i want to bang her), ok conversation, and went and saw a pretty marginal volcano. don’t get me wrong, i don’t mean to sound jaded…..i will remember it as an adventure, but there are just better ways to do it.
burgos st.
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ok, time to move on. it is now thurday evening, i have just deleted another message from the filipino heart girl…. “you want to go for pizza?”. good lord, does this girl ever stop. i decide to head to the hard rock café for a quick bite before heading out. unfortunately the fluffer isn’t at the hrc as it is her night off, however i enjoy a great conversation with an american businessman next to me. it is remarkably refreshing to have an intelligent conversation about business when you have gone almost a week where all your conversations have been “where are you from”, “where are you staying”, “how long you here”,…
after the hrc it is time to head to burgos. i have been here 5 days and it is my first time at burgos. i am exhausted after an early morning and a full day at tagatay. my intention is to have a couple of beers, learn the scene and be prepared for my next 2 nights of mongering. an abstaining mongerer on burgos. good luck.
i walk into flamingo’s, i had heard it was the best so i wanted to be sure to scope it out. i immediately get accosted by 4 girls and pinned into a front table. obviously their intentions and mine were different so i grabbed my beer and went to sit at a table closer to the stage. to be honest, i was a little disappointed with the lineup….i had heard flamingo’s was the best and there was definitely some top notch talent, i just didn’t think the lineup was that much better than what i saw at edsa. i had a couple beers, got a feel for the scene and was ready to move on. whew, made it out of a bar without barfining.
i decided to make 1 quick stop at another bar to finish my pre mongering preparation. i walked into dimples a few doors down. there were only a few customers and a similar number of girls as flamingos. again an average lineup with a couple of gems in the mix. one beer turns into multiple beers and i enjoy a massage from the server. for some reason my back was killing me and i didn’t mind paying for this. there is one girl who really catches my eye…beautiful, a great dancer, and seemed to be having a lot of fun. uh oh, that fits the description of a girl i want to be with and thus a recipe for disaster for an abstaining mongerer. i don’t know why or how it happened, but next thing i know she was sitting with me. i didn’t call her over and i didn’t think i was blatantly ogling her. regardless, she beside me now i knew i wouldn’t be going home alone.
i didn’t have much cash on me because i planned to abstain from mongering that night. of course they were kind enough to let me know they accepted all major forms of credit cards. i managed to convince myself that barfining this girl was in the name of research to find out what the peninsula’s guest policy after 11pm really was. next thing you know those faithful words were coming out of my mouth. barfine mamasan!!!!
i walk into the peninsula with my recent barfine not sure what to expect. it is about 1am and all i am thinking about is the “no guests after 11” policy i had read about. we walk in, pass the guard and walk through the foyer to the elevators. no questions asked. piece of cake. up in the room we listen to some music and have some drinks. drunk as i was this girl was able to get me rock hard. out comes the condom for a cbj (wtf!!). too drunk to argue i just lay back and enjoy. on top she goes we continue until finish. she has to be up early for church and i just want a good nights sleep so we agree to part ways at this point. i walk her out of the hotel and put her in a cab. she sends me a text message saying thank you. i respond the same and go to bed.
day 6 – friday - manila
burgos
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this is it, friday night on burgos. i was planning on this to be the big night, the climatic conclusion to months of research and preparation. tonight is why i traveled 18 hours and thousands of miles. for those of you who have seen the movie “you, me and dupree” this is what i considered the opportunity for an average guy to shine…..to “bring out the ness and throw 7 different kinds of smoke”.
i start at wild west which is essentially around the corner from flamingo’s. i think is a great place, the girls seem to have a lot of fun and it is good atmosphere. that being said, my mind was made up a month ago, i was just using wild west as foreplay. well foreplay is over, it is time to fuck…..off to flamingo’s.
although a little disappointed with the lineup i knew who i wanted. i was a little skeptical at first as this girl seemed to be a lame on stage; she barely danced and didn’t smile. a fellow mongerer who i met that night calls her over. when she sits down her personality changes and she start to have fun with a big smile. sold, mamasan barfine!!! i decide i want to charm this girl, in the back of my mind i am thinking if it turns out ok i would be willing to spend a couple nights with her. hell, knowing my mongering budget i would save money if i flew her to hong kong for the next week.
we decide to leave the bar and do some barhopping, heading off to bubbles and ringside. at these places i am not really checking out the lineup, all my efforts are on doing my best to charm this girl. i really feel i am making process when she invites me up to her apartment to meet her roommates before heading to the hotel. i take this as a sign that she is opening up to me. nice roommates, there are 5 of them that split a studio apartment. they sleep sideways on a single bed. how could she not appreciate a night at the peninsula? we head to the hotel and have some drinks, some music and into bed. what follows can be summarized in one word……average!!! my worst fear had come true….lame on the stage leads to lame in bed.
i had not given up hope, and continued to treat her like a princess. i let her sleep until 1 as i empathize with her living conditions. i was also hoping she would reciprocate with some nice morning sex when she awoke. wrong. as a last ditch attempt i take her for a nice lunch at the greenbelt, still not getting through, time to cut my losses. all that keeps going through my mind is the wise saying “you can take the girl out of the bar, but you can’t take the bar out of the girl”. it was strictly business.
day 7 – saturday - manila
air force 1
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feeling horribly unsatisfied from the previous night i felt compelled to go for a massage….it is mid afternoon so i figure my best choice is flight 168 in air force 1. i knew the girl i saw before was going to be working today, i just didn’t know if she would be available. once i arrived and saw her in the lineup, i looked no further….papasan #11 please. it was good to see her again. i knew the service would be excellent and she didn’t fail in any respect.
she seemed genuinely disappointed when i let her know i was leaving the following day. i know this is probably part of the act however afterwards she gave me her lighter and said “please accept this small token as something to remember me by”. let you tell you, this gift of a $1 lighter was the kindest thing anyone did for me in manila. women come and go, but this girl will now stay etched in my memory for a lifetime. another great flight at 168!!!
burgos
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my last night in manila and burgos was the target. i didn’t want to go back to flamingos as i didn’t want to see the same girl from the night before so i opted to do some barhopping down burgos. i went to a number of bars…bubbles, rascals, jools,…. my agenda was simple, go into a bar, have a drink, check out the lineup, and make a selection or leave.
at this point the whole scene started to get on my nerves. maybe it was because business was slow for a saturday night but the girls will constantly bombard you….”buy me a drink”, “buy mamasan a drink”, girls sitting next to me and not leaving. i just wanted to check out the lineup and decide. it got to a point at jools where i gave 2 girls 100 pesos each just to leave (i figured this was a cheaper option than buying the ladies drinks to shut them up). anyhow, it is just something you need to be mentally prepared for. i thought i was but it still got on my nerves.
i finally found someone at jools…not perfect, but good enough and i felt this would make the girl bombardment go away. unfortunately, when i went to close the deal i found out she wasn’t available for lt, she had to catch an early bus. that wasn’t what i wanted for my last night in manila.
as a last ditch effort i opted to go back to dimples. if the girl from tuesday night was there she would be the choice. i walk in and she is immediately on me, done, sold. we have a couple drinks and decide to head out to another bar to see her friend…off to high heels we go. what ensues is an incredible performance between these 2….dancing together, sucking each others tits, me sucking both their tits, making out with both of them….absolutely incredible.
where the story turns nasty is my recently barfined girl was taking a lot of liberties spending my cash in the bar. she was buying friends drinks, buying the mamasan drinks, buying other girls drinks….before long we had hit a 4000 peso bar tab. this is where i snapped.
in hindsight i can see why i snapped. over the course of the week i had been constantly approached in the streets having people trying to sell rolex’s, cialis, viagra, massage’s. in the bars i was constantly approached to buy overpriced ladies drinks and overpriced mamasan drinks. the cab drivers were constantly trying to screw you on your fares. and the filipina heart girl cost me a fortune taking her & her friends on a daytrip to tagatay. all this had built up to me believing that nobody in the philippines has any other motive than to separate me from my money.
when my recently barfined girl ran up this tab for ladies drinks that is what put me over the edge. enough!!! i did politely pay the bill, but then immediately left leaving my barfined girl behind. i walked outside and got in the first cab i saw and didn’t look back.
shortly after hoping in the cab the text messages and phone calls start. “why you leave”, “what did i do”, “i will stay with you for free”,…. next thing i know she is at my hotel crying. i try and explain to her that i am sick of everyone asking for and spending my money. that being said in my inebriated state i am sure it didn’t come out correctly. despite her tears and her concern i still asked her to leave. she gets in a cab and heads off. i spend my last night in manila alone.
day 8 – sunday – manila / hong kong
the following morning i sober up and am thinking more rationally, i understand why i cracked, but i know i didn’t handle it well. i feel horrible. although this girl set me over the edge, it was entirely her fault. i feel i need to make amends….plus i still want to bang her again.
i won’t go into all the details, but i ended up offering to take that girl to hong kong with me for a few days. the deal was all expenses + usd200. the snag i ran into was we closed the deal over text messages. i was already at the airport and had to get on my flight. once in hong kong i couldn’t figure out a way to purchase her a ticket while she was in the philippines.
to this day i still regret not making it up to this girl. i can’t text message her as i haven’t been able to set up my phone for international roaming. however i am considering this a good excuse to make another trip back to manila soon.
day 9 – monday – hong kong
for my first day in hong kong i didn’t do any mongering. however the one thing that really stood out was how hot the girls were who were walking around central, causeway bay, and tsim sha tsui. the girls were extremely contemporary, cosmopolitan, thin, and attractive. i figured i would love this place.
day 10 – tuesday – hong kong
141 – champagne ct b
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after 2 days off it is time to get back to mongering. i was in tsim sha tsui doing some tourist stuff and i decide to stop by champagne ct b which i had researched on the 141 site. for fellow newbies who don’t know what a 141 is, it is essentially girls who post ads on the ****** site and people go to their apartments for short time fun. no appointment required, just show up and fuck.
there is something to be said about the exhilaration you have when flying halfway around the world to ring the doorbell of a complete stranger and within minutes be banging her. all when neither of you speak the same language. a definite experience.
i was a little nervous before my first 141 experience; especially given that the 141 scene is so much different than the typical bar scene. i decide to go to the bar across the street for a couple beers first….1, 2, 3, 4. ok 4 beers and i am ready. i walk through the main entrance for champagne ct b which is easy to find if you have done your research. inside there are a number of small camera/watch shops which i pretended to peruse while trying to find the elevator. there are 2 choices, 1 dingy elevator or 1 nicely carpeted staircase. i chose the staircase led up to a bunch of rooms. wrong choice. i get scolded by some people in there, but that is ok i have a couple beers in me. choice #2, the elevator. i push the button and wait, and wait, and wait,…then i opt to do what the other mongerers are doing and head up a small staircase beside the elevator. from my research i believed the best floors were #3 and #7 so i stopped at 3.
walking down the hallway there were a bunch of little apartments with signs saying “available” or “occupied”. some had pictures, others didn’t. i walk down the floor and head up to floor #7. a girl standing outside her doorway approaches me. after seeing all the hotties on the mtr in causeway bay and central my expectations were high, but i knew these wouldn’t be as cute. i was thinking if i could fined something 1 or 2 notches below 90% of the girls i see walking around, i would be happy. this girl was 3 notches below. i politely decline. now my courage is up, i understand the scene and decide to start ringing doorbells. first door says available, i ring, no answer, hmmm. second doorbell, i ring, she comes to the door and says no foreigners. here i am with a thousand hk dollars in my pocket never having been laid in hk before and getting turned down by a pro. i walk away a bit dejected and the first girl who approached me is still there. i captitulate to her.
fellow newbies, these are no luxury condos you are stepping in. there is a bed, a tv, and a washroom. the shower is about the size of a bathtub and the toilet is inside the shower. i have never seen this type of setup before. regardless she showers me off and it’s off to business. she attempts some weak foreplay but at that point i am more interested in watching the other mongers come in and out on the closed circuit tv in her room. down to business, she sucks my nipples, sucks my cock and hops on top. i finish in mish and she says “$400, please come again tomorrow”. definitely not a gfe, but not a bad deal for a quickie.
day 11 – wednesday – hong kong
sun hot sauna
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the nice thing about mongering in tsim sha tsui is there are a number of other things to do. this obviously matters if you need something to tell friends, family, and coworkers about when you get home. in tst there are 4 museums (museum of history, museum of
art, space museum and museum of science) all within walking distance of a couple mongering spots. today was a visit to the museum of history and a stop at sun hot sauna. this place is easy to find…walk up chatham and turn left on prat. on your left hand side you will see the entrance with a sign that says sun hot sauna. i enter, the price is around hkd480. after a nice shower they help me change into my briefs, robe and sandals. then they lead me to the lounge area (there is also a steam and jacuzzi area which we skipped). i sit back, relax and they come to bring me a drink. san mig please, no. apparently they don’t serve beer here, not a way to my heart. oh well, coffee it is. they explain the options to me a) some massage, some amount…who cares b) some other massage, some other amount…who cares. c) full massage, 988hkd. sold!!!
we enter the room and the girl proceeds to give me a fabulous massage both dry and then with lotion (was hoping for oil). she then goes into the tickle massage…..god i love those. after she asks if i want the extra services which i obviously can’t turn down after the tickle massage. flip and off we go in stroking, nipple kissing, but no bj (hmm). she hopes on and we try a couple positions to finish mish. she didn’t know much english, but this was ok. the only misstep this caused was when i said “your incredible” and she proceeded to say ok and gave me a pillow. no biggie, overall a great time.
i leave expecting a hkd1500 bill (480 to enter and 988 for the massage). i guess the entry is deducted from the extra services. nice, only a hkd 988 bill. not a bad way to spend the afternoon, and if anyone asks i can tell them the hk museum of history was great.
fenwicks
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time to try the bar scene again….off to fenwicks. fenwicks in wanchai is easy to find if you have looked at the maps posted online. i had read earlier that they may try and charge a cover as a money grab…..my plan was to walk straight thought, if they asked for money i would laugh and tell them i was going to neptune 2. turned out it wasn’t a problem and i walked straight in no cover charge. i arrived around 9:30 which was probably a little early, there was about 5 customers and 20 or so working girls. i brush off a couple “where are you from” advances and head off to a seat on the side. again, i prefer to settle in with a drink to scope out the action first. lineup wasn’t terribly impressive, a bunch of filipinos which wasn’t what i was interested in having banged a bunch of them the prior week. what i really wanted was one of those hotties i saw wandering around central and causeway bay.
finally in walks in a cutie. she sits at a table and before long she has approached my table. the usual questions, what’s your name, where are you from….i give her a test 5 minutes later, do you remember my name? of course the answer is no, i laugh. the intros must be as mind numbing for them as they are for me. we have a couple horribly overpriced drinks (don’t know the exact price, but 1 lady drink + 1 san mig for me was hkd 165). she openly shows me the chit she receives for the commissions on these. i want to get out of there are agree with her for hkd1500 long term. we stop by a bar across the street where i don’t have to pay the ridiculous lady drink charges. while at this bar she shows no shame and is all over me, i know i am going to be in for a great time.
at the hotel we had a great time. she asked me how many times i wanted to come. she suggested we should go for 5. i laughed and said “if you can make my cum 5 times in a night i will marry you”. i think she took this to heart, we made it to 3. i have never shot 3 times in a night with a pro before, definitely a night to be remembered.
day 12 – thursday – hong kong
k-pressure - the amazing race – monger edition.
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the challenge: fly half way around the world and find a sign where the only english is the letter “k” and the number “390”. do so and you will be rewarded with a tongue up your ass. hmmm, ok, sign me up. it is off to k-pressure.
not knowing if i can perform after 4 shots the previous day, i know the battle must go on. i must visit the legendary k-pressure. i hop on the mtr and make my way to jordan. maps and description on hand it is easy to find. i head up the 3rd floor and am greeted by the mamasan in english. she walks me to a room and heads and explains the program… 390+88 all in. “don’t pay the girl, all to me in advance”, she then brings in the first girl. she was over 30, not a word of english and looked a little worn. i ask mami to see 1 more. she brings in a younger girl, again no english and a little overweight. i figure i don’t want to be too fussy and will give her a try.
up to the room and into the shower. a lot of cleaning in front and behind. in addition there is some body sliding and bbbj. with all this i am only able to get half hard. i know this is going to be a problem. on to the bed and there is a lot of licking and bbbj. she flips me onto my front and i know what is next. she spreads my ass cheeks and there goes the tongue. knowing it was coming it probably didn’t take me by surprise, but enjoyable nonetheless. back onto the back for some more bbbj as she prepares for the main event. i know at this point i am going to be challenged. i am coming off a 4 shot day and less than 5 hrs sleep. i do my absolute best to forget about her bad breath, ponch, big bush and the way she waddles when she walks. all i am thinking about is those cuties i see in central and causeway bay. she is a real trooper and keeps trying to get me hard. finally, using my imagination and her physical prowess i pop wood!!!! quick on with a condom, i don’t want to lose this. we proceed to the main event, my eyes are closed the whole time envisioning those hotties. we are able to finish. i probably only have 1 drop left in me and that is what trickles into the condom.
day 13 – friday – hong kong / macau
macau / 18 sauna
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macau is easy to get to, you catch the high speed ferry and it will take an hour or so to get there. if you are going don’t forget your passport as you do have to go through customs and immigration going to and returning from macau.
18 sauna is on the 6th floor of the golden dragon hotel and casino. when you enter there is a nice lobby area and then change room. inside there is sauna, jacuzzi and a lounging area with tv’s and refreshments (again no alcohol). other reports discuss buying packages which include the ferry ride as well as services at 18 sauna. i opted not to do this and instead just showed up. i didn’t participate in any of the additional services (things like body scrubs, nail clippings, head massages,…) and although i don’t remember 100%, i think my total bill was hkd 1500.
after lounging for a while in the chairs “showtime” starts. i believe this happens every 45 minutes. at this point you will go to a different area and the girls will come out. at first there will be 5 girls dancing (and they are available) and then there will be a lineup which you walk down and choose.
these girls are hot!!!! finally the quality that i had seen wandering around central and causeway bay, definitely above what i had seen at the 141’s, k-pressure, and fenwicks.
i pick a chinese girl (they all have different color tags representing their nationality) and she is definitely incredible to look at. this is the type of girl i came all the way to asia to fuck.
they lead me to a room where i await for my selection to join me. the rooms are nice with a massage table inside the shower. my selection arrives and puts on some nice light music. we go into the shower and she proceeds to give me the most erotic massage of my life. during the massage she was using her hands, her ass, her tits. she also spent some time on a bbbj as well as cleaning my ass which i now know as the international sign for “i am going to stick my tongue up your ass”.
we get out of the shower and she moves on to a fire and ice bbbj. this girl is not only incredible to look at but also the most skilled girl i have been with when it comes to the art of arousal. we have sex in a couple of positions and i am definitely in heaven. i blow my load and fill up the condom. she takes off the condom and laughs at the size of the load. at this point i wish i had learnt some cantonese so i could propose to her. it was definitely the load of a lifetime.
lisboa
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i didn’t partake at the lisboa, however i wanted to go there before heading back to hong kong to see it. essentially it is a mall area where girls wander around asking you if you want to go for a short term date. it was a little tough to find the “track” as the mall area is a twisty area on multiple floors, however once you do find it you will know immediately you are in the right area. i wish i had more time here as there were some cuties walking around that i would have liked to try out.
neptune 2
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i head back to hong kong from macau thinking i have finished my mongering for the trip. that didn’t last long and i decided i didn’t want spend my last night in hk alone. i hop on the mtr to wanchai and go to neptune 2.
the place is packed with as many customers as girls. i had trouble finding an area to stand, but ended up finding a space near the entrance at a high table. this was fine with me as i wanted to spend some time checking out the talent as opposed to diving into the thick of it. there was ok talent, but nothing that really jumped out. maybe this is because it is tough to beat the talent i saw in macau earlier in the day.
after brushing off a number of girls i didn’t want to spend time with, nor answer the litany of “where are you from”, “where are you staying”, “how long are you here for” questions one little cutie approached me. i believe this girl was a semi-pro, just trying to earn some extra cash on a friday night. i knew i would be taking her home as i like tiny spinners.
we went for a couple drinks at a different bar and then back to the hotel. nothing too much to report from the evening, but a nice gfe. she ended up leaving around 4am as i had to be up relatively early for my flight back. a nice way to finish the trip.
trip summary
manila
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i found the philippines an interesting place and uniquely position for economic growth with a relatively young, cheap, service oriented, and english speaking population base. makati is just as modern as any north american city and i didn’t feel unsafe there at all.
manila is definitely a great place for mongering as it is inexpensive and language typically isn’t a barrier. the big downfall, particularly on burgos, is they are a little too aggressive for my liking. maybe there are guys who appreciate a barrage of girls coming after them the second they walk in the door, however i prefer to a little more relaxed scene where i can peruse the talent for a while.
hong kong
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hong kong is definitely not the best place for value mongering; if you are looking for value catch the next flight to thailand or the philippines. that being said hong kong has some great tourist attractions which you can mix with a myriad of mongering choices. what stands out for me in hong kong is how incredibly gorgeous the girls are who are walking around central and causeway bay. if you are into asians (and i am), an afternoon walk or a ride on the mtr will get you all horned up. that being said, these girls are typically untouchable and it leads to a little let down when you see the quality that is available for mongering.
changes
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if i were to plan a trip to these regions again there a couple things i would do differently, maybe anyone planning their first trip out can learn from my experience.
1) manila – stay away from filipina heart girls. although the allure of a semi pro gfe is strong, if i went down this road again i would have to have some fairly strong ground rules set up before meeting them. specifically only agree to spend a short amount of time with them and then take it from there. don’t allocate too much precious vacation time to dates with the wrong girl, this is easy enough to do when you are at home.
2) manila – one afternoon i had a little cutie sit next to me at the starbucks in greenbelt. i wish i approached and banged her. if i were back in manila i would probably spend more afternoons / early evenings sipping on a coffee going after some of these semi pros.
3) manila – la café – never went as i was there during the period it was closed down.
4) manila – edsa – i was only there 1 night. my perception on an incredibly limited sample size is the girls here may be more appreciative and willing to please than the hardened pro’s on burgos. i would try to spend a little more time here and a little less on burgos.
5) manila – dimples girl – ditching this girl that one night in the bar after barfining her still bothers me. i really think i will make a return trip specifically to make it up to her.
6) hong kong – i never made it to the bars like new paris or the big boss club. i would like to try these places out in the ongoing quest to find the pro’s as hot as the girls walking around central and causeway bay.
7) macau – i could definitely spend a couple days here and a little less time in hong kong. the girls i saw in 18 sauna and wandering around lisboa were hot!.
and of course the #1 regret is having to come back home.
again i would like to thank all the contributors on the forum for the invaluable information provided, it certainly helped me plan an incredible trip and helped me hit the ground running.
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I need some help from all of you in The Phillipines
I've mongered quite a bit in India. The typical prices someone pays for ST is $20 US. LT prices are $75-$100. Yet for the same quality of girls, I was able to get ST for $3.50 and LT for $18-$23.
The only difference was the area that you picked them up from. There was one part of the city that had incall services and you could get cheap prices. The benefit of these Incalls was that you could literally bang 5 girls in a 2 hour time period (often times at the same Incall provider) This way you could "SORT" through the dudes from the goddesses.
I have 3 questions:
1. Does Manilla have any incall providers that you can "SORT" so quickly?
2. Does Manilla have any HIGH QUALITY GIRLS that give LT so cheaply as India?
3. What is the lowest price you can get girls consistently? (ie, I could obtain girls at $15 per night LT, yet not with any consistency, thus I set my LT price at $18 because I could get that price almost everytime)
Feel free to PM me, or post publically. Gentlemen, I truly appriciate your help in this manner.
LTL
Fishbowl or Apartment girls
I have been to Thailand but will be in Manila and Makati in February for 3 weeks. Do they have places to pick girls in a "fishbowl" setting and also I have heard of Apartment girls how do they work and how do you know where to find them. Thanks for your help!!
What V and C are used for
Just Remember that
Cialis is best used for 0-3 hours of shagging per day.
It typically stays in the body for 36-72 hours.
Whenever you think about sex or touch the little man, up comes your soldier ready for battle. If you leave him alone or change topics in your brain, then he will go back down. Its almost like you are 13-14 again.
Viagra is best used for 5-6 hours of CONSTANT shagging.
For me, I will only take V if I have 4 or more women in that 6 hours.
I tend to wear women out on it. It messes with my brain chemistry such that I MUST have sex. Just think of a dog humping everything. That is me on Viagra.
Also, the little soldier stands strong at attention for the ENTIRE time. Nothing will let him go down.
Both are great!!! They are just used for different purposes.
I just wish they made a drug that made women want to have sex so desparetely.
LTL
Short time hotel in Makati
The best short time hotel in Makati is Moonlight hotel, next door to Blush on Burgos street. Short time rate is $750.
