A couple of short information bursts
These topics came up in conversations with other guests during club visits. Thought I would throw them into a single post.
I do owe longer reports on GT and Heavensgate but haven't had the time to write yet.
- The Breadman had heard that World was closed during his visit to GT. I'd not read anything about it anywhere and we could not confirm it.
- Since we were up in OWL (Ost Westfalen) heard a lot about Harem and Parkschloss Dali from other co-guests. The consensus is that the facilities at both clubs are unbelievable. The problems are: they are in the middle of nowhere and the owner probably has enough girls for one club but not for two. He split his Mannschaft (or Frauschaft) into two and the result is there aren't enough girls for both clubs.
Someone said they have a wall with holes at one of the clubs and every hour on the hour you are invited to push your member into a hole and someone on the other side administers a BJ. Nope, its not a BJ to completion but it is a way of creating some excitement with the expectation that you will hook up with the fellatrice on the other side of the wall eventually for a normal session.
- PT Osnabrueck continues to get negative reviews. The girls at PT Wagenfeld felt very strongly about it, in particular: they would never work there. Guests I met at Wagenfeld felt similarly: Its not very well run and its quite dirty. PT OS has had problems with groups of guys coming in, drinking way too much beer and then getting unruly. So now, they don't accept groups of more than four, particularly Russians or Brits (there is a British Army Kaserne nearby). And they are limiting beer consumption.
- PT Wagenfeld has a language requirement for the women who work there. They all have to speak German - they all do to some degree.
- In a discussion with the RF guys the topic of the best club in Deutschland came up. There are so many clubs and so many different market segments and tastes, there is no such thing. Everyone has to decide for himself what is important. Some guys like large clubs, others small clubs. Others like quiet clubs, others loud ones. There are PT fans and guys who won't go near them.
- The RF guys are very willing to share their German content with the rest of the world and have no objections to my quoting them so long as I use proper attribution (which I have done).
- I kept hearing only positive things about F39 in Bochum. The ownership situation has changed and there are supposedly really outstanding women who work there... and all of this in Germany's Rustbelt: the Ruhrgebiet.
- I had a chance to drive by Koeln-Bickendorf on the way to GT and was able to find Matthias-Brueggen Strasse where Sudbad is for future reference. Its very accessible by U-bahn. This sister club of Bernds, however, has never been rated as well as Bernds is.
- The new sister club to PT Wagenfeld (its also a PT), La Rouge in Osnabrueck-Wallenhorst, has not been getting good reviews. Hope that the situation changes as this would put Osnabrueck on the map. The clubs in Ost Westfalen are just a little quieter than those a little to the south (I am not a fan of large, loud and noisy clubs) so you can be sure I will be doing more reporting from this neck of the woods going forward.
If the sister club to PT Dorsten which will open in Muenster is anything like PT Dorsten, Ost Westfalen will be the place to be.
- I already did a quick summary of one RF post on Mahal Kita in Loehne under the "Other FKK clubs" thread.
Developments in Switzerland
Ja, I know this doesn't belong here but this thread is infinitely more active than the Swiss one.
Swiss Law Aimed at Attracting Top EU Talent Lures Prostitutes
2007-03-04 19:19 (New York)
By Antonio Ligi
March 5 (Bloomberg) -- Switzerland entered a treaty with the
European Union to import workers, seeking more bankers, managers
and academics. What it got was an influx of prostitutes.
The number of people offering sex for money has risen by a
third in Zurich and 80 percent in Geneva since Switzerland opened
its borders to workers from the 15 EU-member states at the start
of 2004, police estimate. Some lawmakers predict prostitution
will grow even more after the government last year removed work
restrictions for residents from 10 newer EU countries as well.
``A lot of families are leaving the neighborhood,'' said
Maximilian Kuenzig, 64, who has lived in Zurich's working-class
Kreis 4 district his entire life. ``Just yesterday in my
building, a young Swiss family with a kid said they would leave.
There is noise the whole night.''
While Swiss officials say the new rules are spurring
economic growth, anti-immigrant groups argue that the rise in
prostitution shows the treaty isn't attracting the educated
professionals Switzerland needs. The Swiss People's Party, which
opposed opening the labor market and is part of the ruling
coalition, says it may seek a referendum on the treaty in 2009.
Prostitution is legal in Switzerland, and its residents have
the world's highest purchasing power, according to a study
published in December by UBS AG. Prostitutes from the EU don't
need a work permit for the first three months of residence and
can offer their services as self-employed workers, provided they
register with police and comply with tax laws.
Welcoming Environment
The lack of restrictions, combined with the country's
wealth, has pushed the number of prostitutes per capita in Zurich
to the highest among industrialized countries, estimated Rolf
Vieli, a city employee heading a project for improvement of the
Langstrasse area, Zurich's red-light district. Based on police
figures, Zurich has about 11 prostitutes per 1,000 people,
similar to the rate in Amsterdam, known for its sex trade.
``The neighborhood is degenerating more and more,'' Vieli
said at his office at Zurich's police headquarters. ``The process
of becoming a slum is accelerating with the increase of
prostitution.''
The decision to open the labor market to workers from the
EU, adopted in 2000, is part of a series of covenants Switzerland
agreed to in exchange for reduced trade barriers with the
economic and political union.
The federal government is looking on the bright side. The
accords will boost gross domestic product by as much as 0.5
percent, with half of that generated by the arrival of much-
needed professionals, Switzerland's federal offices for migration
and economic development said in August.
``The increasing prostitution is for us a side effect and
irrelevant for the labor market,'' said Rita Baldegger, a
spokeswoman at the State Secretariat for Economic Affairs. ``The
positive effects prevail.''
Surge in Workers
The number of registered prostitutes in Zurich rose to
almost 4,000 at the end of 2005, from 3,000 in 2004, police there
said. Police haven't released 2006 figures for Zurich. The number
in Geneva increased to about 1,500 at the end of 2006, from 837
in 2004, police said.
Most of the new sex workers came from neighboring Germany
and France. Switzerland doesn't track the number of registered
prostitutes nationally.
The influx of sex workers has cut prices for ``quickie''
sexual intercourse to a range of 30 to 80 francs ($24 to $65)
from 150 to 250 francs ($122 to $203), said Adrian Klaus, a
social worker with Basta, a support group for prostitutes.
Reversal Possible
The Swiss People's Party is concerned that increasing
prostitution may become a serious problem, and the party may
collect signatures for a referendum on the treaty, spokesman Reto
Jaeggi said. A clause in the treaty allows a national vote in
2009 on whether to continue the labor agreement with the EU.
``This and the influx of unskilled workers in the
construction industry and in the agriculture sector isn't really
an intellectual improvement,'' he said.
While the surge in prostitution is testing residents'
tolerance in Zurich and Geneva, women's rights groups say it
helps prevent the abuse of women by human smugglers.
``We expect a decrease in the illegal trafficking of
women,'' said Doro Winkler of the Frauen Informationzentrum,
which specializes in issues related to women trafficking. ``A
main reason for trafficking of women was the restrictive law'' on
foreign workers.
Kuenzig, the Kreis 4 resident, said prostitution has long
been present in the neighborhood, but in smaller numbers and with
less impact.
``There weren't all the side effects of noise and fights
like today,'' he said.
--Editor: Batten (wsm)
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service industries. For the Web site of Frauen
Informationszentrum: [url]http://www.fiz-info.ch/engl/index.html[/url] .
For the German-language Web site of Basta:
[url]http://www.archezh.ch/Basta/HauptBasta.html[/url].
To contact the reporter on this story:
Antonio Ligi in Zurich at +41-44-224-4116 or
[email]aligi@bloomberg.net[/email].
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To contact the bureau chief responsible for this story:
Christian Baumgaertel at +41-44-224-4106 or
[email]cbaumgaertel@bloomberg.net[/email]
Ever Lost something then found it again years later?
Hi All.
not been here for a while, simple because i forgot the webpage! DOH.
Anyhow, good to be back, and nice to see the site is still being used by some old faces!
Germany next week so ill post my reports!
Mothers have a sixth sense for these things...!
[QUOTE=Wan King]As some of u might know, I go on fairly regular "trips" every 6 weeks or so. Also Im 37 and live alone in my own house. I also live a decent distance from my old parents, see them once a month-ish, and talk on the phone once or twice a week.
But I usually mention about taking little breaks to see my "old friends in different parts of Europe". Im off on a trip PartyTreff exploration trip tomorrow. I got a call from my Mum today
"Well, enjoy your break. Where are u off to this time?"
"To see my old mate Terry in Dusseldorf"
"Listen, I hope to God you are not taking drugs or God forbid visiting prostitutes in those places??"
"Me mum, you must be joking...."
All I can say is if she only knew the truth :D[/QUOTE]
Your secret is safe with us though... Mums (pun intended) the word.
Have fun on your trip, WK! We await your reports from PT destinations yet unexplored.