He claims he didn't do her because she was a virgin, but did everything else and then goes on the add that they had agreed to pop her cherry in August when he got there.
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He claims he didn't do her because she was a virgin, but did everything else and then goes on the add that they had agreed to pop her cherry in August when he got there.
I think the question is: what did and do you expect, Nightrider? She's 48 years younger than you, right!? Please grant her to be deflowered by a guy in her age!
Anyhow, do you expect that she will be yours till you die?
If you want to send her money - do so! But do it because you like her, don't expect anything in return (i.p. "love") and don't make her a prostitute who has to go to bed with a so much older guy on a regular base. She will only make it for the money, that's for sure - if she's nice with you or not.
Sorry, but be honest with you!! Support her but don't expect anything in return.
Just my opinion,
Shamuc
[quote=nightrider1]i have been a 12 time visitor to phil and come for 7 weeks at a time every 6 months. i started with mostly p4p but moved into the chat sites of filipina heart and dia to line up more normal girls who i enjoyed better than professionals especially as i get older. well last sept i met an 18 yr old on dia who worked as a internet cafe attendent so we had lots of time to chat when she was not waiting on customers. got closer and closer and met in march. fell for her big time cause she is honest as the day is long and never lies to me. even if we have a 48 yr differance in age it did not matter to her or me.. i did not have sex with her cause she was a virgin but we did everything else. very horny girl.. i agreed to send her to college as she had no means to do it herself. father died 4 years ago and mother barely eeking out a living in gen san. so i paid for this semester of tuition plus the cost of a boarding house and books and fees too. she still had her dia profile and yahoo too and i knew she was chatting with others but did not expect her to meet in person anyone else although i told her she could if she wanted too. we chat on yahoo every day usually about my upcoming trip in august to see her again. well last week she tells me " my friends say that virginity is important to foregners is that true " i said to some it is and to some not. she said " is it important to you " at that time i knew she had been fucked. as i said she is honest ,and she said she met a guy who had sent her mssg in dia. they had never chatted before so he was basically a stranger to her .they met at the mall and had dinner and then they went to his hotel and watched tv and after a while he started kissing her ,and she got horny to use her words. she said she told him to stop when he started to go inside her and she cried but he did not stop.finally he said " relax i am already inside you " well to say the least i am devastated hearing this. of course now all the regret e-mails and chats are coming and how she did not expect him to fuck her and take her virginity because we both talked about me doing it in august when i come there. and i can see that it was basically a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] from how she explains it. i am having a hard time getting over this and just wonder if any of you feel i should just say go to hell or if this senario is believable. i do still have feelings for her even now because of how she is when she is with me, and i also feel sorry for her that this happened to her without her consent, but i dont want to be a sucker and a sap and taken advantage of either. you can reply on the forum or with private mssg[/quote]
i feel very sorry for your situation.
i think you are in for a world of hurt and heartache if you continue with this one. she is a lost cause. you can continue paying her college (high school equivalent) education if you want but dating filipina can be like burning cash. maybe you will get some personal satisfaction of helping her improve her life opportunities, but if she is like nearly any other pi girl, she will find a friend who will introduce her to the high-life of hong kong soon enough if she does not go for the local spots like la cafe or ac. if you give her enough money maybe she won't even need a manager when she makes her first trip to hong kong.
i've only met 2 types of filipina, the ones that sell themselves at home in the philippines and the ones that will only sell themselves outside of the country. there may be others but i have yet to meet them.
you have too romantic an ideal to be successful in your pursuit. (i've tried with filipina and failed too.)
i wish you all the best but i am skeptical of your future together.
if you really want her however, i suggest you get to the pi quickly and make your commitment to stay there with her.
you may also want to consider an out of work (retired) bg at least 35+yo, much closer to your age. with luck her kids have left home and are grown up. her experience and interests will more match yours and she will be much more fun. i guaranty you that she will be loyal and faithful to you.
[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]I feel very sorry for your situation.
I think you are in for a world of hurt and heartache if you continue with this one. She is a lost cause. You can continue paying her College (high school equivalent) education if you want but dating Filipina can be like burning cash. Maybe you will get some personal satisfaction of helping her improve her life opportunities, but if she is like nearly any other PI girl, she will find a friend who will introduce her to the high-life of Hong Kong soon enough if she does not go for the local spots like LA Cafe or AC. If you give her enough money maybe she won't even need a manager when she makes her first trip to Hong Kong.
I've only met 2 types of Filipina, the ones that sell themselves at home in the Philippines and the ones that will only sell themselves outside of the country. There may be others but I have yet to meet them.
You have too romantic an ideal to be successful in your pursuit. (I've tried with Filipina and failed too.)
I wish you all the best but I am skeptical of your future together.
If you really want her however, I suggest you get to the PI quickly and make your commitment to stay there with her.
You may also want to consider an out of work (retired) BG at least 35+yo, much closer to your age. With luck her kids have left home and are grown up. Her experience and interests will more match yours and she will be much more fun. I guaranty you that she will be loyal and faithful to you.[/QUOTE]
I agree with your advise whole heartedly except for 1 point.
Not all Filippinas sell their bodies for cash, the problem is we only see this side of them there are lots of normal girls there, they might be a bit simpler in the way we view them but thats only because we use western standards but at the same time they survive on very little compared to what you and I could survive on for most of their lives and have raise children and have a full life.
Yellow Fever #2 the whole of Philippines is not LA Cafe, Wan Chai, Tongren Lu or OT.
Just like all of US is not the strip clubs of Vegas or all of Austalia is not Kings Cross or King Street.
Wizard
[QUOTE=Shamuc]I think the question is: what did and do you expect, Nightrider? She's 48 years younger than you, right!? Please grant her to be deflowered by a guy in her age!
Anyhow, do you expect that she will be yours till you die?
If you want to send her money - do so! But do it because you like her, don't expect anything in return (i.p. "love") and don't make her a prostitute who has to go to bed with a so much older guy on a regular base. She will only make it for the money, that's for sure - if she's nice with you or not.
Sorry, but be honest with you!! Support her but don't expect anything in return.
Just my opinion,
Shamuc[/QUOTE]
Nightrider,
Seriously, don't give this girl another penny unless you're the type of guy who gets turned on by watching strangers lay pipe to your girl. In that case you can PM Philippine mongers with her particulars because I'm sure that there quite a few who would like to call dibbs on her anal cherry. If you're not that sort of guy then let this girl go on her way. I understand that you enjoyed being benefactor to this fatherless waif, but she sees you more like a kindly doting generous grandfather rather than a true lover. Another disturbing factor is the way in which she nonchalantly gave her ass up for free in bed to a complete stranger on a first meeting. I think a real Filipina virgin would never have gone to a strange man's bedroom unchaperoned. This plus the whole ease with which his cock went in her (she asked him to stop but it was already in) sounds like girlie has a real Grand Canyon there. It seems like the guy's cock fell in rather than wedged in. There is a BIG hole in her story.
Another thing is that this girl works in an internet cafe. You don't think that she may have learned the game from the countless girls that use the internet cafes to work foreign water buffaloes for money? These girls know how to play the honesty game by giving you just enough information to gain your trust. There's an old saying, "Give an old goat enough rope and he'll hang himself."
A great post by Shamuc. Some very pointed questions which everyone should ask themselves if they feel in the marrying mood.
For those who have been very critical, I can only assume you've learned the hard way.
I had a fun night with a (Lapu factory employee met at CB) girl who claimed to be a virgin...and there was no penetration. Damn, I was so close! She had planned to go to her hometown about two hours out of town the next day and I presumed that I would never see her again.
The next night I hit Sunshine with and old EDSA friend (long story) and had the sense (lucky?) to ask her about my previous night's dilemma.
She just looked at me with her dreamy eyes, smiled, and said, "Did you believe her?."
I stuttered out an affirmative reply, but my confidence had quaked. (She was very good at that kind of thing, bless her heart). Looking at her (we were buck naked in bed) I could see her amusement. She knew I'd been played and I could see it in her eyes.
So, I sent a text to the so-called virgin and asked her if she'd like to spend more time together. She made it to my room in record time. I plugged her immediately and called her bluff. She came clean. (Illogic, you understand those idioms or should I give you a link to Idiom or Urban dictionary?)
One night in Cebu and the next two at Alona beach, and one unfortunately bloody bonk three months later ...it was great fun. Both ladies are apparently now married in some Western country. Bless their hearts.
X
[QUOTE=Shamuc]I think the question is: what did and do you expect, Nightrider? She's 48 years younger than you, right!? Please grant her to be deflowered by a guy in her age!
Anyhow, do you expect that she will be yours till you die?
If you want to send her money - do so! But do it because you like her, don't expect anything in return (i.p. "love") and don't make her a prostitute who has to go to bed with a so much older guy on a regular base. She will only make it for the money, that's for sure - if she's nice with you or not.
Sorry, but be honest with you!! Support her but don't expect anything in return.
Just my opinion,
Shamuc[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wizard561]I agree with your advise whole heartedly except for 1 point.
Not all Filippinas sell their bodies for cash, the problem is we only see this side of them there are lots of normal girls there, they might be a bit simpler in the way we view them but thats only because we use western standards but at the same time they survive on very little compared to what you and I could survive on for most of their lives and have raise children and have a full life.
[/QUOTE]
I agree, my comment was a bit harsh but I left open the proviso that 'there may be other types'.
It's true, they can and do survive on next to nothing.
Of those that travel abroad to ply their trade, it's a tiny a few that can earn more than just to pay their back home expenses -the more they earn, the more relatives they end up supporting. None of them can save a penny and their career is too short. (I have seen some ancient Thais with fantastic bodies in Hong Kong, Wanchai last night but their value is far depressed).
Typical PI bar girl resume:
'Plenty of travel experience, Singapore, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Kuala Lumpur, Bali. Worked as bar girl in various cities over 7 years. Looking for a position at SM Hypermarket and a husband to take care of me.'
IMO, I feel sorry for them but I will enjoy them anyways. Although it may not do much good, I point out (especially to the newly traveled girls) that this new career is not useful for their future and they most likely will not benefit from this 'work'. Living in Hong Kong gives me exposure to scores of new BGs fresh from the farm on their first overseas experience.
[QUOTE=Wizard561]
Yellow Fever #2 the whole of Philippines is not LA Cafe, Wan Chai, Tongren Lu or OT.
Just like all of US is not the strip clubs of Vegas or all of Austalia is not Kings Cross or King Street.
Wizard[/QUOTE]
I've never mongered in the PI but I'd really like to try LA Cafe and the Havana Bar, EDSA etc.
The other places you mentioned are some of my favorite pilgrimage places in the world. I'd add Beach Club/Thai Bar in KL and Sukhimvit in BKK.
I still have alot to learn.
[quote=nightrider1]well last week she tells me " my friends say that virginity is important to foregners is that true " i said to some it is and to some not. she said " is it important to you " at that time i knew she had been fucked. as i said she is honest ,and she said she met a guy who had sent her mssg in dia. they had never chatted before so he was basically a stranger to her .they met at the mall and had dinner and then they went to his hotel and watched tv and after a while he started kissing her ,and she got horny to use her words. she said she told him to stop when he started to go inside her and she cried but he did not stop.finally he said " relax i am already inside you " [/quote]c'mon guys, please don't be so hard on old nightrider.
i totally understand the poor girl.
after all, every time i am trying to be true to my fiance and maintain my virginity, the first thing i do is rush off to meet some strange from "date in asia.com," just like she did.
if someone messages me wanting to hook up, i'm not actually expected to say no, am i? what, just because i'm in love?
get real. who could resist?
i also like to test my fidelity to my fiance by going to the mall and dinner with these strangers, then to the hotel, just to watch television together.
especially in the nude.
it's the only way i know to prove to myself how much i really love my fiance.
i would never consider marrying someone until i have been alone in a hotel room naked together with a stranger. maybe even several times.
and when this strange naked girl starts kissing on me i always get all horny and shit, too. to use nightrider's fiance's words.
next thing you know, there it is: a cock is already whaling away inside a pussy and no one has a fucking clue how it ever even got in there.
but once it's already inside her, then i can relax.
cuz there is no earthly reason to bother stopping until after a man has cum really good. might could cause blue balls or something.
as you can see, from the way i explain it, i feel just lke nightrider's girlfriend did:[quote=nightrider1] and i can see that it was basically a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] from how she explains it. [/quote]there you have it.
basically a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].
but for some reason nightrider's fiance and i always forget to report it to the police.
much better, i think, to make a quick call my fiance to share the news, just like she did. this pretense of "honesty" always seems to relieve any guilt i might have over putting myself into that position in the first place.
and it even gives me a little extra thrill to see how uncomfortable it makes the old coot. the more "devastated" she is, the more i know how much she still loves me.
now that i've read about nightrider's fiance, i don't feel so bad any more. it seems like this same shit just keeps happening all over the world.
every single time i am obsessed about protecting my virginity for the most special person in the world to me, i end up naked in a hotel room with my cock up some stranger's pussy.
damn it.
p. t. barnum said there is a sucker born every day. nightrider's fiance and i surely are a couple of those dumb suckers aren't we?
thank god he's not, though.
so c'mon guys, please don't be so hard on old nightrider.
db
[quote=nightrider1]i have been a 12 time visitor to phil and come for 7 weeks at a time every 6 months. i started with mostly p4p but moved into the chat sites of filipina heart and dia to line up more normal girls who i enjoyed better than professionals especially as i get older. well last sept i met an 18 yr old on dia who worked as a internet cafe attendent so we had lots of time to chat when she was not waiting on customers. got closer and closer and met in march. fell for her big time cause she is honest as the day is long and never lies to me. even if we have a 48 yr differance in age it did not matter to her or me.. i did not have sex with her cause she was a virgin but we did everything else. very horny girl.. i agreed to send her to college as she had no means to do it herself. father died 4 years ago and mother barely eeking out a living in gen san. so i paid for this semester of tuition plus the cost of a boarding house and books and fees too. she still had her dia profile and yahoo too and i knew she was chatting with others but did not expect her to meet in person anyone else although i told her she could if she wanted too. we chat on yahoo every day usually about my upcoming trip in august to see her again. well last week she tells me " my friends say that virginity is important to foregners is that true " i said to some it is and to some not. she said " is it important to you " at that time i knew she had been fucked. as i said she is honest ,and she said she met a guy who had sent her mssg in dia. they had never chatted before so he was basically a stranger to her .they met at the mall and had dinner and then they went to his hotel and watched tv and after a while he started kissing her ,and she got horny to use her words. she said she told him to stop when he started to go inside her and she cried but he did not stop.finally he said " relax i am already inside you " well to say the least i am devastated hearing this. of course now all the regret e-mails and chats are coming and how she did not expect him to fuck her and take her virginity because we both talked about me doing it in august when i come there. and i can see that it was basically a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] from how she explains it. i am having a hard time getting over this and just wonder if any of you feel i should just say go to hell or if this senario is believable. i do still have feelings for her even now because of how she is when she is with me, and i also feel sorry for her that this happened to her without her consent, but i dont want to be a sucker and a sap and taken advantage of either. you can reply on the forum or with private mssg[/quote]
it was almost too good to be true. you've waited a long time to lose your virginity (48 years longer than your girl) and your beloved pi web girl has waited too for you, until this unfortunate incident.
i suggest you avail yourself to any of your local prostitutes or escort services and take advantage of their services. i believe you can find addresses and other information at the following website: [url]www.internationalsexguide.info[/url].
you should find the resources contained on that website useful.
this way you will even the score. she got their first but you can get even, maybe even win.
please describe in full detail your first experience.
Fuck Me! you guys are harsh!
Nightrider 1, please read "private dancer". It will clear up all your questions.
Funny part about that read is some of the lines from the story were taken directly from conversations I have had with BG's. Even though the story was written 15 years ago. How is that still relevant?
Every time my babyko says, "you the only one mahalko", I reply, "of course baby, and you the only one for me also". Followed by more inane dribble.
Just remind yourself of the 3 F's (or get a tattoo) and you should do fine.
To Yellow Fever 2
Don't worry about whether she is a virgin or not.
Hard to say whether she was a real cherry girl. Lots of girls pretend to be cherries so that they do not want to be fucked by you. They do exploit your generosity and sob story about their family maybe just that. I have yet to see a Phi girl who say no to money and I have dated many normal girls. But I would be damned supporting a girl without sex cherry or not. along the way I have had couple of cherry girls. I made it clear to them that sex is part of the deal. They agreed. Kept the relationship for a while. Yes, did support them.
If she is a real virgin obviously she is not in love with you enough to give it to you. Never support a girl whatever the story is unless you want to be taken advantage of.
[QUOTE=Nightrider1]I have been a 12 time visitor to Phil and come for 7 weeks at a time every 6 months. i started with mostly P4P but moved into the chat sites of filipina heart and DIA to line up more normal girls who I enjoyed better than professionals especially as i get older. a hard time getting over this and just wonder if any of you feel I should just say go to hell or if this senario is believable. i do still have feelings for her even now because of how she is when she is with me, and I also feel sorry for her that this happened to her without her consent, but i dont want to be a sucker and a sap and taken advantage of either. You can reply on the forum or with private mssg[/QUOTE]Nightrider,
I feel sorry for you you are a very good man, but take it on the positive side now that she had lost her cherry you can f. Her and feel no guilt about it just grab her by the ears and f. Her face or do anything you dream of, she owed to you, be her monger mentor and please do not feel sorry for her you are giving her a lot more than she can give you in return and if you are not able to understand this well I think that you have a serious problem you should consult a monger phsychologist
P. S. Dodger bulldog, Yellow fever you guys are simply hilarious just rofl reading your reply
guys i’m going to be rich! i found nightrider’s girlfriend and she agreed to sell me her story. i think it’s going to be a bestseller. eat your heart out stephen leather! lol
nightrider’s girlfriend:
i meet nightrider on dateinasia.com while i waste time at work in internet café. the other girls who come to café to use internet show me how they get a lot of money from internet boyfriends. so i put profile on dia and i meet nightrider. we chat too much. i tell nightrider that my papa die 4 years ago and i have no one take care of me now. i tell him i want go college but no money and poor mama work like dog in gen san. nightrider get so sad he say he going to pay me go to college. nightrider like good grandfather to me. he come see me and we have lots of fun. nightrider want fuck me but i tell him me virgin. he say okay he wait but he want fuck me in august. i not really want fuck nightrider that why i say him i have cherry. i know if i tell nightrider no fucky he no pay my college. so i tell him i no care he so old and i love him too much. he like to hear me say that. after nightrider leave philippines me so horny. i go on dia and this guy say he want meet me in his hotel room. i saving virginity for nightrider so me say okay. i only 18 years old and nightrider fuck too much woman. what he think i save cherry for him? when i get over to hotel room i see young handsome tall kano with blue eyes. my pussy get drip drop wet because now i really horny. he take me to mall and we go eat. when we get back to room he kiss me and i get so horny next thing i know we both lying in bed with no clothes on. he put his big dick in my pussy and i cry a little because it hurt real good. he say shut up and relax because dick already inside me. i tell him okay fuck me good and cum because i no what him get blue balls. he fuck me bareback and shoot his load in my pussy but i know if i get pregnant nightrider take care of me and baby because he love me too much.
well after guy leave i tell nightrider. he love me so much he tell me everything guy fault. he say guy [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me. nightrider number one other guy get mad and call me a hoe but not nightrider. he understand me very horny girl and i just go to hotel room alone to talk to stranger and he [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me. he say he so happy he have honest girl like me. he not even ask why i not fight guy and go to police. he nice old water buffalo he believe everything i say.
Just want to say I know when you post anything you open yourself up to whatever anyone wants to say to you here. Both the sympathetic posts and the hasher ones that basically say I am a dumb fuck for believing anything that comes out of her mouth. I did have some of the same questions such as why did'nt you put your fingernails into his back or grab his balls or try in some way to get away. Short nails ( I know this to be true ) And she said she was just crying and shocked that it was happening. And also thought he would stop when she said it hurt but he did'nt. I know this to be true as well because in March when I was with her we tried and it hurt her too much so I pulled back. To elaborate more on this whole scenario i have her DIA login and password so I looked at this guys profile and sent him a mssg just saying he and I know the same girl and I just wanted to know how he felt fucking a young girl who asks you to stop when she is crying. He was online at the time and the next thing I typed was " I hope your proud of yourself and now you can go back home and tell your buddies how you fucked an 18 yr old virgin who was crying,Damn what a manly man you are" 20 seconds later it says his profile has been deleted so evidently he did not like what I was saying and did not dispute it to me by sending any mssgs back. So bottom line, I believe what she is saying actually happened to her even if some of you have doubts.