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Article from "The San Diego Union Tribune".
"Meth and murder: A new kind of drug war has made Tijuana one of the deadliest cities on Earth" link [URL]https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/la-fg-mexico-tijuana-drug-violence-20190130-htmlstory.html?fbclid=IwAR3xGmC_iVap2EhPtZ6OlxdXOg7XjDtEOEI5qOh4912K8L6guOG0OQrt30g[/URL].
Ran into a deportee (From his good English) who tried to Interview me around dusk when I was coming back from dinner on Revolucion near the Kentucky Fried Buches restaurant. Asked me a question, tried to get close, started demanding money, then I demanded that he "Dejame in Paz" and had my pepper spray ready to go in my right hand while motioning him to stay back with my left. Once he saw I had the pepper spray with my thumb on the trigger, he stopped following me. Recommend guys buy a cheap pepper spray in the USA for around $6 to 9 bucks. Once the Rateros notice you have it, they back off fast. Keep it in your hand in your pocked in Ratero areas. If they jump you, you'll need it fast. If they speak good English, be on the alert, because they probably got deported for committing crimes in the USA.
[QUOTE=StRobert;2280872]Article from "The San Diego Union Tribune".
"Meth and murder: A new kind of drug war has made Tijuana one of the deadliest cities on Earth" link [URL]https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/la-fg-mexico-tijuana-drug-violence-20190130-htmlstory.html?fbclid=IwAR3xGmC_iVap2EhPtZ6OlxdXOg7XjDtEOEI5qOh4912K8L6guOG0OQrt30g[/URL].[/QUOTE]I am sure a couple of the Chicas in HK are on meth bases on their fuck up teeth and bony faces. And I've had some chicas confessed to me that they use meth. I believe that the guys yelling "quarto" in the alley are the street distributors. How unfortunate that they are likely protected as the police ignores them while they peddle meth publicly. It would have been a pleasure to see one of these dealers slip and fall under a passing truck.
[QUOTE=StRobert;2280872]Article from "The San Diego Union Tribune".
"Meth and murder: A new kind of drug war has made Tijuana one of the deadliest cities on Earth" link [URL]https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/la-fg-mexico-tijuana-drug-violence-20190130-htmlstory.html?fbclid=IwAR3xGmC_iVap2EhPtZ6OlxdXOg7XjDtEOEI5qOh4912K8L6guOG0OQrt30g[/URL].[/QUOTE]Good report, confirmed my thoughts. I have changed my behavior in Tijuana now, with the increased crime, I still think it is safe during the day, but at night, getting more dangerous by the day. I use to walk back and forth from the Casino to HK, now I think twice. Also, I am way more careful eating at the food stands at night if I even go. If I do go, I stand on the side or back by the workers, I just do not feel as comfortable as before.
I just hang out a HK. I use to take cabs, but now I am switching to Uber.
Thank you, for the information.
Guys in the alley are not truly protected. One was murdered by Eduardo motel by his worksite: cascades-Azul porch next to HK alley exit. It was his "day off from working" according to locals who knew him. He was a known dealer. Anyway, yes this confirms what I saw but I figured it was with Cartel blessing.
I would suggest double checking legality of pepper spray in Tijuana. Seems I remember police treating it like carrying a knife.
Darinka Rodríguez 24 MAR 2018 - 01:58 CET.
El intento de violación a una joven poblana ha creado un debate sobre el uso de este instrumento para la protección personal.
"Hay un vacío jurídico en la regulacióand a estos instrumentos no solo en cuanto al uso de la poblacióand, sino de LOS cuerpos de seguridad policíaca", dice a Verne vía telefónica Armando Rodríguez Luna, coordinador de proyectos del Colectivo de Análisis de la Seguridad con Democracia (Casede) . . . El artículo 179 del seeódigo Penal de Puebla no menciona al gas pimienta como un instrumento prohibido. . . ".
In a nutshell, Mexican women want to have pepper spray. Different states like Puebla and Mexico City have different laws, but pepper spray is not a firearm or knife which appears to not be mentioned or prohibited by Puebla law. Another Puebla authority claimed it was. It is listed as being for sale in Tijuana here "Encuentra Gas Pimienta en Tijuana en Mercado Libre México. Descubre la mejor forma de comprar online. . . " Seems legal to buy in Tijuana, and certainly scares off Rateros. For guys who are prime targets for muggers. Women, small guys and disabled, seems like a good idea. Would you rather get beaten and robbed or get shaken down by the Policia for having it?
[URL]https://verne.elpais.com/verne/2018/03/23/mexico/1521841565_605654.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=BearBare;2281315]Guys in the alley are not truly protected. One was murdered by Eduardo motel by his worksite: cascades-Azul porch next to HK alley exit. It was his "day off from working" according to locals who knew him. He was a known dealer. Anyway, yes this confirms what I saw but I figured it was with Cartel blessing.
I would suggest double checking legality of pepper spray in Tijuana. Seems I remember police treating it like carrying a knife.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StRobert;2280872]Article from "The San Diego Union Tribune".
"Meth and murder: A new kind of drug war has made Tijuana one of the deadliest cities on Earth" link [URL]https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/la-fg-mexico-tijuana-drug-violence-20190130-htmlstory.html?fbclid=IwAR3xGmC_iVap2EhPtZ6OlxdXOg7XjDtEOEI5qOh4912K8L6guOG0OQrt30g[/URL].[/QUOTE]" Local and state officials estimate that up to 90% of the city's homicides are linked to local drug sales ". "It's sad to watch them not manage the problem and just wait for them to kill themselves," said Jaime Arredondo, a researcher at the British Columbia Center on Substance Use who has spent years studying Tijuana's local drug trade.
The city's police chief, Marco Antonio Sotomayor, has said repeatedly that tourists and most residents shouldn't worry about the violence.
"Those who are dying are young people and criminals who get into a world where they know that part of the risk of that business is. That they will lose their lives," he said.
"We have to understand the city is not on fire," he said. " . BTW A little comforting in this report is that tourists shouldn't worry about the violence. A little similar situation is in downtown San Francisco (Tenderloin section). A lot of drug users and a lot of drug sellers on the corners but there is no violence like in Tijuana.
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I would suggest double checking legality of pepper spray in Tijuana. Seems I remember police treating it like carrying a knife.[/QUOTE]I don't think carrying pepper spray is a legal problem. If it is, it is ignored. A HK chica I spent the night with on my last visit showed me her can of pepper spray, which was fairly good sized. She lives about 20 minutes by cab from HK. One night while on the way home, the cab driver started to take her to a remote area away from her home. She got scared, hosed him down with the pepper spray, and ran. She left him in a lot of pain.
From my experiences in Tijuana, your likelihood to be in a situation where pepper spray is useful is nearly 0. The most recent muggings were over too fast or they came up from behind for a sleeper hold lock. So yes you might use it but I just haven't personally had many instances. I often walk and walk large areas from Plaza Rio, through CostCo, to PedEast, PedWest and over through Norte Zona (staying east of NH except for trips to veterinarian by 2nd and Gonzalez Ortega before 7 pm).
Shakedowns however by the police are extremely often. I once forgot about a mini K-bar knife that I routinely carried after 3 stints in Afghanistan (and survived many searches undetected in the Middle East) and immediately got it off my person.
I asked the policia during one search if pepper spray was ok and he said no. You can carry it knowing the potential consequences. I just wanted the casual reader to know that this is potentially going to lead to a policia tour of the Zona in the backseat of a cruiser for either a bribe or possible judge appearance. I've had this a few times just for walking in the street. When he asked why I was in the street I pointed to the cuantos guy outside Motel Ceci (across from Playboi bar) and said "because you can't seem to stop the drug dealers, and the sidewalks are blocked by their bikes. ".
[QUOTE=Travv;2281410]Darinka Rodrguez 24 MAR 2018 - 01:58 CET.
El intento de violacin a una joven poblana ha creado un debate sobre el uso de este instrumento para la proteccin personal.
"Hay un vaco jurdico en la regulaciand a estos instrumentos no solo en cuanto al uso de la poblaciand, sino de LOS cuerpos de seguridad policaca", dice a Verne va telefnica Armando Rodrguez Luna, coordinador de proyectos del Colectivo de Anlisis de la Seguridad con Democracia (Casede) . . . El artculo 179 del seedigo Penal de Puebla no menciona al gas pimienta como un instrumento prohibido. . . ".[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://www.nbcnews.com/id/27990143/ns/world_news-americas/t/killed-tijuana-over-days/[/URL]#. XFSajFxKjcs.
TIJUANA, Mexico — At least 37 people were killed over three days in the Mexican border city of Tijuana, including four children caught in shootouts and nine men found decapitated, the state attorney general said Monday.
More than 200 people have been killed in the past month in Tijuana, where officials say rival cells of the Arellano-Felix drug cartel have been waging a bloody battle across the border from San Diego.
Tijuana's police chief was fired Monday after the wave of violence. A statement from the office of Tijuana Mayor Jorge Ramos says Alberto Capella was replaced by his second-in-command, army Cmdr. Julian Leyzaola.
No reason was given for Capella's abrupt dismissal.
Baja California state Attorney General Rommel Moreno said three police officers were among the nine decapitated men, whose bodies and heads were discovered in a poor Tijuana neighborhood. Their police credentials were found stuffed in their mouths.
Police were investigating whether some of the 37 deaths between Saturday and Monday were part of a retaliatory spree sparked by the killing of a 25-year-old woman believed to be a drug trafficker's girlfriend, Moreno said.
He said interviews with families members indicated that 80 percent of the victims had been involved in drug dealing.
See this: [URL]http://www.discoverbaja.com/go/crossing-border-mexico/[/URL].
"Items Not Allowed in Mexico:
Guns or ammunition. Guns are illegal in Mexico. You will be put in jail for having one.
Pepper spray.
Whether it's ignored or not on locals is irrelevant. If you get stopped and searched by Tijuana cops, and they find a pepper spray on you. You've just broken the law, and have given them a solid reason to arrest and extort you. People are free to decide if carrying spray is worth this risk, but they should know the correct facts.
[QUOTE=Aviator400;2281652]I don't think carrying pepper spray is a legal problem. If it is, it is ignored. A HK chica I spent the night with on my last visit showed me her can of pepper spray, which was fairly good sized. She lives about 20 minutes by cab from HK. One night while on the way home, the cab driver started to take her to a remote area away from her home. She got scared, hosed him down with the pepper spray, and ran. She left him in a lot of pain.[/QUOTE]
Mexico will form a national guard to help battle the drug war on a local level. Until Mexico roots out corruption it will hard to end drug problem in Mexico & Tijuana. Tijuana was also cited as one of the problem cities in Mexico as well. It is simply ridiculous that the drug dealers are allowed to sell drug openly in the Zona. I seem yelling out Quanto's open on Constitucion. The only way to weed out corruption is have independent international observers in Mexico. Unfortunately this probably will not happen.
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[QUOTE=GNRPorche;2281725]Anyone who asks you a question on the street in Tijuana is likely 90% trying to rob you. They got me with 18 year old girl because she was dressed conservatively and a chance to speak to a cute girl not charging me money was great. Till 20 seconds her posse was taking me out. Essentially, don't stop walking. The second you stop moving it's like watching lions catch the week prey on nature channel.[/QUOTE]You say her "posse was taking me out?" Like on a date? You got assaulted? What do you mean by that? Anyhow, stating that 90% of the people who ask you a question on the street is trying to rob you, well that's laughable. Maybe 2%-3% are looking to rob you. But the other 98% are either trying to sell you something, asking for a tip for doing bullshit, or have a legitimate question that they want answered.
[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2281910]You say her "posse was taking me out?" Like on a date? You got assaulted? What do you mean by that? Anyhow, stating that 90% of the people who ask you a question on the street is trying to rob you, well that's laughable. Maybe 2%-3% are looking to rob you. But the other 98% are either trying to sell you something, asking for a tip for doing bullshit, or have a legitimate question that they want answered.[/QUOTE]Agreed. This is just more fear mongering from the guy who lives in 5 different locations simultaneously. And who has sworn off Tijuana but still claims expert status.
More importantly, I think the advice is, if you are approached by an English-speaking guy, be wary. But Clam is exactly right. Most of them are looking for a buck or trying to sell you something. In any case, they should be avoided. Yes, the rateros work in pairs or groups. And like always, your guard should be up. But 90% is just not even close to reality.