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Ok I do RTFF, but I am very curious to know if any expats or master mongers know where I can find a non-Thai WG? I am not interested in traveling tourist hotspots, but more in Black, and Exotic booty and breast girls.
I know this is the Thai forum, but I found that I was craving some curves and variety during my last few Thailand experiences.
Sorry if this offends the "only Asian lovers", but I am sure I am not alone.
Very much appreciate the contributions of all of you, and this sites existence.
Cheers
Hummer

[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]Ok I do RTFF, but I am very curious to know if any expats or master mongers know where I can find a non-Thai WG? I am not interested in traveling tourist hotspots, but more in Black, and Exotic booty and breast girls.
I know this is the Thai forum, but I found that I was craving some curves and variety during my last few Thailand experiences.
Sorry if this offends the "only Asian lovers", but I am sure I am not alone.
Very much appreciate the contributions of all of you, and this sites existence.
Cheers
Hummer[/QUOTE]

Didn't read too hard or search too well.... just recently there was posts about African's outside Grace. And that's just off the top of my head.... OK maybe that is a little harsh so sorry... but search Grace I think that is where they mostly hang out lately.

I know I saw some in CM2 (which surprised the heck out of me as usually they are only russians or such in there). And I saw some walking soi 3 and 4 last trip.

Tansak TV is correct!

Soi 3 (especially the area around and infront of the Grace Hotel) has "sometimes" Nigerian Working Girls and a few Russian/Uzbeks

Soi 3 is also Mikes Place, go to the top floor and they will show you a conference room with Russians and Uzbeks

I have even been offered some Indian girls while walking soi 3, but the Thai guy was weird so I did not ask more.

Soi 4 Rajah hotel has some (not all the time) Russians/Uzbeks in the lobby area

Soi 7/1 There are a few Russians/Uzbeks sitting at the outdoor Coffee World/Sandwich place

Soi 11 at the coffee shop before you reach the Ambassador hotel are a few Russians/uzbeks

Cm2 is also a very popular non Thai P4P pickup

now, I think it is also important to note that not all of these non P4P girls are good looking or even young, but there are a few that are really worth it

Good luck

Possibly wrong thread, but here goes.

A mate of mine living here and I had a couple of non WG to entertain the other night. Where to go.

A few phone calls before we met up with them and we decided to go to Tawandang Brew House in Rama 3. The place is quite large maybe 700 people inside, with food and own brews being the focus. Fantastic entertainment, with western cover bands, Thai soft pop, a bit of theatre and magic show thrown in. Corny and I never would have expected I would have enjoyed the place so much!

The crowd was 99% Thai and the bill was about 3000, but smiles on the girls when we said this is where we were going that night was priceless. And the night that followed equally so.

Highly recommended!

A few days back I visited Pink Massage. I was really in the mood for a soapie but the only one I found was Darlings. The lineup was poor and the price was high so I moved on. I found Zakura or whatever it's called that's mentioned on the board quite a bit but the lady wouldn't let me choose the girl. So I went next door to Pink since I couldn't find anything else after a couple of hours of walking. As these things work though, the next day when I wasn't even looking I kept seeing MPs everywhere.

I choose Pink because they had ball massage on the menu. I asked if I could pick the girl and she said yes and brought 4 upfront. Unlike Darlings, the four ranged from semi-hot to super-hot. All were young, slim and pretty. I choose the super-hot one. Her name is Yoko. As often happens, looks is not an indication of service. She was pleasant enough, but the session was not hot. First she disappeared for a while to shower. Then she had me shower off alone which was a major disappointment since I paid extra for the bath option hoping that would ensure that she shower me off at least. The massage was meager as was the ball massage which was basically a HJ. She said that the HJ was included in the price I paid as long as I didn't finish. But if I did it would be 1000 baht. Expensive for a HJ in my opinion and I was going to spite her by not finishing. But 30 minutes of this and I had to cum so I negotiated a BJ for 1000 baht. That was meager as well so I satisfied myself by face fucking her. I just grabbed her head and went at it. She could have pushed me away at any point, but she didn't. She did gag a little after I pulled out. I then showered off again alone and still had 30 minutes left so she insisted on giving me a Thai massage since she didn't want me to leave before time was up.

I got the gel massage option, 1.5 hours for 900baht. The ball massage, 30 minutes for 250baht. And finally the bath for 100 baht.

So I got 2 hours of meager but pleasantly offered peformance for 1250 baht + 1000 baht tip. Not worth it in my opinion. That's about $70. Not cheap considering I can get much much better performance in China for about $12.50. $70 in China is close to giving you a 5 star soapie with your own room with big screen TV and snacks.

Overall I've been really disappointed with my paid sessions in Thailand. Expensive with poor performance. Thailand isn't worth it as a P4P destination anymore. There are much better places to go in the world if you want to pay. For freebie non-pro action though, Thailand is near the top.

[QUOTE=JustGotBack]A few days back I visited Pink Massage.

She said that the HJ was included in the price I paid as long as I didn't finish. But if I did it would be 1000 baht. Expensive for a HJ in my opinion and I was going to spite her by not finishing. But 30 minutes of this and I had to cum so I negotiated a BJ for 1000 baht.

I got the gel massage option, 1. 5 hours for 900baht. The ball massage, 30 minutes for 250baht. And finally the bath for 100 baht.

So I got 2 hours of meager but pleasantly offered peformance for 1250 baht + 1000 baht tip. Not worth it in my opinion. That's about $70.

Not cheap considering I can get much much better performance in China for about $12. 50. $70 in China is close to giving you a 5 star soapie with your own room with big screen TV and snacks.

Overall I've been really disappointed with my paid sessions in Thailand. Expensive with poor performance. Thailand isn't worth it as a P4P destination anymore. There are much better places to go in the world if you want to pay. For freebie non-pro action though, Thailand is near the top. [/QUOTE]You negotiated a BJ for 1000? After you paid what you did. Yes not cheap, but it appears you picked the wrong place, and did not negotiate properly.

Thailand is much cheaper than China. Travel to both extensively.

Read the board here, and go to the recommended places, and negotiate to the going rate.

Nic, that was very informative.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Soi 4 Rajah hotel has some (not all the time) Russians/Uzbeks in the lobby area[/QUOTE]Actually, at Rajah you're supposed to look for the Thai pimp (they always hang out in the lobby and make themselves fairly obvious). He'll take you upstairs to see the girls (usually two or three rooms -- if you don't like the first one, ask to see more). They're rather flaky on the price, but if you're polite and stand your ground, you can do it for 2500 (or less, but I never managed). Girls look great (way better than at Grace), but service is hit-and-miss (from decent to worst-ever in Bangkok). It's OK to just take a look, though they don't appreciate the foot traffic.

In addition, if you like Chinese, there are always a few walkers around Yaowarat (particularly area around Yaow Soi 6/Phadung Dao, the soi with the popular seafood place at the corner). They do count as foreign -- sometimes speak neither Thai nor English (but 500 baht does the trick!).

[QUOTE=Mark17]You negotiated a BJ for 1000? After you paid what you did. Yes not cheap, but it appears you picked the wrong place, and did not negotiate properly.

Thailand is much cheaper than China. Travel to both extensively.

Read the board here, and go to the recommended places, and negotiate to the going rate.[/QUOTE]
Be specific. Exactly what can you get where and for what price? Otherwise sounds like idle speculation.
The guy you were criticising was specific! ;)

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp]Nic, that was very informative.

Actually, at Rajah you're supposed to look for the Thai pimp (they always hang out in the lobby and make themselves fairly obvious). He'll take you upstairs to see the girls (usually two or three rooms -- if you don't like the first one, ask to see more). They're rather flaky on the price, but if you're polite and stand your ground, you can do it for 2500 (or less, but I never managed). Girls look great (way better than at Grace), but service is hit-and-miss (from decent to worst-ever in Bangkok). It's OK to just take a look, though they don't appreciate the foot traffic.[/QUOTE]Does the middle-man also provide a room in this hotel?

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp]In addition, if you like Chinese, there are always a few walkers around Yaowarat (particularly area around Yaow Soi 6/Phadung Dao, the soi with the popular seafood place at the corner). They do count as foreign -- sometimes speak neither Thai nor English (but 500 baht does the trick!).[/QUOTE]I think I have seen a few in this area, but they were rather unattractive, to say the least. Anyway, they are not comparable to the stunning PRC-girls in Singapore. Or did I miss something?

[QUOTE=Mark17]You negotiated a BJ for 1000? After you paid what you did. Yes not cheap, but it appears you picked the wrong place, and did not negotiate properly.[/QUOTE]

1,000 is the going rate for BJ at Oilies (like Pink, Orient, ThonglorII, Angel...). Also, keep in mind there is no wrong place, don't blame the place if the girl is lousy.

In my opinion, I also think you overpaid and should have read the Forum a little better: Mick created a magnificent Soapy guide that should have guided you in the right direction.

There is a simple guide to Oily massages and its easy to remember.

500B = HJ
1000B = BJ
1500B = FS

Also, when you go in, ingore all the rubbish about ball massage and all that crap, its total nonsense.

Pay for an oil massage if you want oil. Pay for a gel massage if you want gel. (The difference being gel is easier to wash off, so less chance of being "discovered" if you are going to meet your other half later in the day).

Do not pay extra for "balls massage" or anything else, just pay the house the standard rates.

When the girl flips you over and massages your front, she will ask if you want "special".

At this point, do not be shy, tell her what you want. Eg by hand, blow job, or "everything". If you say "everything" she will know its FS and therefore 1500B for her.

Some places will not offer FS, and so its a HJ or BJ.

Follow those guidelines in any oily and you will not go far wrong.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]1, 000 is the going rate for BJ at Oilies (like Pink, Orient, ThonglorII, Angel.). Also, keep in mind there is no wrong place, don't blame the place if the girl is lousy.

In my opinion, I also think you overpaid and should have read the Forum a little better: Mick created a magnificent Soapy guide that should have guided you in the right direction. [/QUOTE]

paid a visit to harlem. it's right across the river from the train station. you'll see neon and a nifty wood piece of artwork in front. it's by maichai trit.

nothing to write home about. they charge 1200 for fs but there's a "drink" fee of another 80 baht. a few ladies in the fishbowl. some are lookers. i think the lowest rung is 1000 baht. you get 1 hr 20 mins, which is just about what i usually ned. if anyone has any ideas on how to speed things up please let me know.

typical massage, bath, fs. girl was reasonably enthusiatic. not much else to say.

[QUOTE=Neufie]Possibly wrong thread, but here goes.

A mate of mine living here and I had a couple of non WG to entertain the other night. Where to go.

A few phone calls before we met up with them and we decided to go to Tawandang Brew House in Rama 3. The place is quite large maybe 700 people inside, with food and own brews being the focus. Fantastic entertainment, with western cover bands, Thai soft pop, a bit of theatre and magic show thrown in. Corny and I never would have expected I would have enjoyed the place so much!

The crowd was 99% Thai and the bill was about 3000, but smiles on the girls when we said this is where we were going that night was priceless. And the night that followed equally so.

Highly recommended![/QUOTE]I would say that Tawandeng German Brew House is one of the best places in Thailand for a night out.

Get yourself in a taxi and say Tawandeng Long Beer german param sam.

I have never met a taxi driver that dose not know it.

I was taken there many years ago and I have been going there at least once a month ever since, even my wife has a membership card.

Great beer, great food, great entertainment.

I have been taken and gone to real high end places in Bangkok and thought, what a waste of money, I am paying for the arty chair I am sitting on and the four plates widely placed on the wall. I am not saying that I do not like the more expensive end either as I am regular at places like Phillip's and Rossini's but I know the premium I am paying there is not just going on the interesting plastic fish in the toilet.

In Tawandeng even though it is not the cheapest you are not paying for location or the arty design, you are paying for good home brewed beer and great food. The show is not the best in town either and do not expect 100's of sexy women on stage more a set of older musicians and a old westerner dude playing the piano. The music performance level is better than what you would get in a hotel lobby but not as good as what you would get in a real upscale live venue. The main band itself is large and is made up of local instruments and western internments including a small brass section. Guest singers come in later in the night and they have had magic acts and even circus acts.

I would say it has to be a must for anyone that wants a none P4P night out.
I have taken many of my customers and visiting friends there and out of all them,I am guessing more than 50, only 1 said they did not like it. The reason he gave was something like, it was beneath him and it was not up market enough.

You will not be the only westerner in there. When I first started going there it was really only me and who ever I took but over time it has got more popular with none Thai's. The Reason I like it so much if I am honest is I think it is one of, or the only place in Bangkok now that you can get a nice beer.

From me and almost everyone I know 5/5.

As they have 2 locations make sure you do not go to the one on Petaburi road as it is nothing like the same.

[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]I have been here less than 24 hrs. and my dick is raw already. I had three different ladies, young (19-20) tiny one LT from Rainbow 4, older (29) super tiny ST Morning/Night Bar, and a older (35) skinny soapy massage with FS, some hidden place that my tuk-tuk driver took me.

I paid a tuk-tuk 50B and he took me around for about three hours and showed me all I needed to know about BKK.

A lot of the mongers I have seen here are some pathetic looking blokes. Some are down right goofy and dirty looking. One guy I saw today was a dollar short of mongoloid looking. What's up with so many guys with yellow crooked teeth??? Not complaining because that makes it soo much easier for me to get the fine little brown fucking machines.

Being my first time here in BKK I will say some of your guys advice about this and that is really overrated. I think many of you exagerate the realities in order to justify your existance on this forum. A lot of crap is put out on ISG and I think in comes from those who just don't know how to assimilate in foriegn country.

Later.[/QUOTE]

PH,

You paid more than 50 baht for the Tuk-Tuk tour. That Soapy Massage, "hidden joint" that he took you to, probably gave the driver a nice kick back. They don't make any money driving you around for 50 baht. The gas alone will eat most if not all of that up. They make the money on the kickbacks. He probably made 300 to 500 baht off you, on that one stop. I can imagine the type of Soapy that he took you to and what other stops you made. The Soapy probably took 2 hours of the 3 that he had you, so there must have been a bar or two, or some other stop involved too.

AT2