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[QUOTE=MrWoolyBooly;2057957]You make it sound so easy. The biggest draw to me of P4 P is they generally leave without resistance. I mostly pursue non-pros and struggle with getting 'em to leave on my timetable. "You don't pay prostitutes for sex. You pay them to leave after sex. " The challenges we all face.[/QUOTE]I just tell them that I need to go to the office, they should shower first. I need to prepare my things so you might as well leave now.

Sunday is not going to plan.

10 am girl cancelled due to sick relative.

Midday girl is pushed back to 1:30 pm.

Another girl wants to come watch movies.

Loving life and options.

BD.

Hi Brain Drain,

Its sad that Porkies has hit the wall. I always enjoyed going into that bar, having a few beers, playing pool and enjoying the wait staff. I thought the place was well run and making money! Do you know why it has closed its doors?

[QUOTE=Roderick;2058129]Hi Brain Drain,

Its sad that Porkies has hit the wall. I always enjoyed going into that bar, having a few beers, playing pool and enjoying the wait staff. I thought the place was well run and making money! Do you know why it has closed its doors?[/QUOTE]No idea as to the reason for closing. Aussie owner I believe.

[QUOTE=Forest;2056722]Have you ever bar fined a Cherry girl for a BBBJ? What does that cost, and is it worth it? And, what does it cost to take a cherry girls virginity these days (is that on offer? My knowledge of cherry girls is based on something I saw on 60 minutes about 30 years ago, so I am curious about the reality in 2017 (of course, a 60 minute report on prostitution in the Philippines was probably all bullshit in the 1980's as well).[/QUOTE]100,000 pesos is about the ave price to take a girls virginity.

[QUOTE=Roderick;2058129]Hi Brain Drain,

Its sad that Porkies has hit the wall. I always enjoyed going into that bar, having a few beers, playing pool and enjoying the wait staff. I thought the place was well run and making money! Do you know why it has closed its doors?[/QUOTE]Its now under a different name. Fixed up and made into a go go bar. Few lookers in there last time I was there 3 days ago.

Well my Sunday didn't go at all to plan.

The two girls that I had planned to interview were both no shows in different ways and various excuses. One left me sitting enjoying a meal at Jollibee. That's life.

We have to realize that while we are setting up meetings with multiple girls, the girls are also setting up multiple meetings. It's easy for them to burn off an unknown and stay with the certainty where they are.

I did have one excellent girl that I have seen before. Always great BJ, great sex but she has some connections around town that preclude me from going there again. That was a tough one knowing how much fun she is but knows too much about my work.

In the end about 4 pm I had been having a random wechat conversation with a normal girl. I was happy just to chill, do some work in my apartment and cook dinner. I invited her to join me. When she arrived she looked familiar, eerily familiar but I couldn't quite place her.

Dinner went well, conversation was good, she has a professional job and degree qualified.

The rest of the night went as expected, looking forward to seeing her much more. Genuinely no money expected, genuinely looking for friendship and affection. Genuinely aware I have a GF and NSA only.

So, with all of the girls on wechat, how do I find a normal girl? She explained the types of messages and conversations she gets from most. It's really not too hard.

Have a great day.

BD.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2056389]When I was last in Angeles City in 2007 I encountered many cherry girls in the clubs who would go to your room with you but not f..k. Have not read about them in posts recently. Are there still cherry girls to be found?[/QUOTE]Everytime I go bar hopping I find at least a couple "cherry" girls. Most of them are cute and young. A few years back I took a "cherry" girl from a bar on the street behind Burgos St. It was a western themed bar but is no longer open. We went bar hopping and finally to my room. A little fore play and before you know it, I popped her cherry. She ran to the bath room bleeding and said it hurt. We went to sleep and the next morning we tried again but she was to sore. She left and I went back to her bar that evening and mama asked me why I took her virginity?! I replied because she said it was ok. Mama was upset but never asked for anymore money, just the normal bar fine I paid the night I took her. I ended up paying her buy out barfine of like $300 USD and she spent the month with me. It was a fun month.

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;2058436]100,000 pesos is about the ave price to take a girls virginity.[/QUOTE]That is the exact amount that 2 mamasans quoted me a few weeks back in AC, one bar was Crystals.

TTM.

Hi guys, just looking for some advice from guys living in AC or nearby for a long time.

I'm in Oz but my gorgeous Filipina GF of 2. 5 years really wants me to move to AC so we can be together. She used to be married here but her ex Aussie husband beat her up a lot so she left for good and to be around her family. I meet her here and it took over a year before we fucked as her attitude to men changed for obvious reasons. I had to show her I wasn't an asshole. She isn't a bar girl either. Having lived in Australia for 5 years she acts more Western than local. I took her to Cebu last year and visited her in AC in December. To me AC is one street of party action. Their didn't seem to be much else to do during the day.

My question is exactly how can Westerners make a regular monthly income in AC? I didn't see many opportunities in Dec and I have a very good sales job back here. I'm guessing this type of work would be impossible to find in AC? I see some make money as youtube bloggers but that's not my thing. I have quite a bit of savings but conscious of burning through it leaving me little money in 10-15 years and I'm only 47. I have possible work contacts in Manila and actually prefer to live near the beach! Maybe open a bar but that will come with a whole lot of other problems.

I would love to move there and have a family with her but hard to think how I can support myself into old age. Even though cost of living is way cheaper in PH than Australia.

Any replies would be appreciated either here or as PM's.

Shazzam, this is just my opinion and I can't wait to hear what other BM's will say, but I don't think you are ready to quit your job and move to AC. If your GF does not want to live with you in the land of Oz, then let her go. More will come your way, a lot more. Meanwhile, work hard, keep your head to the grindstone, visit the PI and other Asian countries to blow off some steam and get laid, save large, and plan for an early retirement that you can seriously afford for the rest of your life. Don't take anything for granted including the future rate of inflation (cost of living) and true love. The two do not go hand in hand.

[QUOTE=Shazzam;2058833]
My question is exactly how can Westerners make a regular monthly income in AC? I didn't see many opportunities in Dec and I have a very good sales job back here. I'm guessing this type of work would be impossible to find in AC? I see some make money as youtube bloggers but that's not my thing. I have quite a bit of savings but conscious of burning through it leaving me little money in 10-15 years and I'm only 47. I have possible work contacts in Manila and actually prefer to live near the beach! Maybe open a bar but that will come with a whole lot of other problems.[/QUOTE]There are a few jobs as country managers in Western run BPOs. There is a lack of quality talent available in the local marketplace when advertisements are run. There are US300 k jobs on offer for foreigners here in Clark, but they are few. The guys I know float between different roles in the BPO industry doing training, sales and senior management on wages like AUD60 k. The market is limited though.

Running your own business is the best solution to put you in control of your income. Needs to be a business where you have the revenues in the west and the costs here in Philippines.

BD.

[QUOTE=Shazzam;2058833]Hi guys, just looking for some advice from guys living in AC or nearby for a long time.

I'm in Oz but my gorgeous Filipina GF of 2. 5 years really wants me to move to AC so we can be together. She used to be married here but her ex Aussie husband beat her up a lot so she left for good and to be around her family. I meet her here and it took over a year before we fucked as her attitude to men changed for obvious reasons. I had to show her I wasn't an asshole. She isn't a bar girl either. Having lived in Australia for 5 years she acts more Western than local. I took her to Cebu last year and visited her in AC in December. To me AC is one street of party action. Their didn't seem to be much else to do during the day.

My question is exactly how can Westerners make a regular monthly income in AC? I didn't see many opportunities in Dec and I have a very good sales job back here. I'm guessing this type of work would be impossible to find in AC? I see some make money as youtube bloggers but that's not my thing. I have quite a bit of savings but conscious of burning through it leaving me little money in 10-15 years and I'm only 47. I have possible work contacts in Manila and actually prefer to live near the beach! Maybe open a bar but that will come with a whole lot of other problems.

I would love to move there and have a family with her but hard to think how I can support myself into old age. Even though cost of living is way cheaper in PH than Australia.

Any replies would be appreciated either here or as PM's.[/QUOTE]Very difficult getting a job here if at all. The call center will hire you but its long hrs with not much money, but it is a option. Working a online business from anywhere in the world is another option if you have the skills to make that work. If you have a unique skill Filipinos can't do maybe you be ok with that BUT if a Filipino can do it they will get those jobs also over you every time even if your 10 x more qualified. Other then that If you don't have a pension of some sort, or a huge amount of saving to draw from or both your pretty much SOL.

Another case of my girl but different. I can't wait for things to go horribly wrong.

Thanks for all the replies. Pretty much what I thought, have heard and saw for myself last December when I visited AC. If I win out Tattslotto draw tonight I'll be there on the weekend and drinks on me LOL.

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;2058925]Very difficult getting a job here if at all. The call center will hire you but its long hrs with not much money, but it is a option. Working a online business from anywhere in the world is another option if you have the skills to make that work. If you have a unique skill Filipinos can't do maybe you be ok with that BUT if a Filipino can do it they will get those jobs also over you every time even if your 10 x more qualified. Other then that If you don't have a pension of some sort, or a huge amount of saving to draw from or both your pretty much SOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shazzam;2058833]Hi guys, just looking for some advice from guys living in AC or nearby for a long time.

I'm in Oz but my gorgeous Filipina GF of 2. 5 years really wants me to move to AC so we can be together. She used to be married here but her ex Aussie husband beat her up a lot so she left for good and to be around her family. I meet her here and it took over a year before we fucked as her attitude to men changed for obvious reasons. I had to show her I wasn't an asshole. She isn't a bar girl either. Having lived in Australia for 5 years she acts more Western than local. I took her to Cebu last year and visited her in AC in December. To me AC is one street of party action. Their didn't seem to be much else to do during the day.

My question is exactly how can Westerners make a regular monthly income in AC? I didn't see many opportunities in Dec and I have a very good sales job back here. I'm guessing this type of work would be impossible to find in AC? I see some make money as youtube bloggers but that's not my thing. I have quite a bit of savings but conscious of burning through it leaving me little money in 10-15 years and I'm only 47. I have possible work contacts in Manila and actually prefer to live near the beach! Maybe open a bar but that will come with a whole lot of other problems.

I would love to move there and have a family with her but hard to think how I can support myself into old age. Even though cost of living is way cheaper in PH than Australia.

Any replies would be appreciated either here or as PM's.[/QUOTE]Whoa partner! Slow down there. You are moving too fast. Now, you said that you have only known this Filipino for two and a half years. During that time she made you wait for over a year before she allowed you to fuck her. The reason she gave for not fucking you was that she harbored feelings of hatred towards men because her Aussie ex-husband used to kick her ass on a regular basis. She left the alleged ass-kicking Aussie husband to return to her family. There are some red flags that should make you think really hard about giving up employment, savings and home to move to the Philippines to shack up with her and start making babies.

First of all, you only know her side of the story regarding the ex-husband. Sad to say, Filipinas are not known for their truthfulness. You should find out if the guy really was a wife-beater and what role she played in the altercations. Was she fucking around on him? Was she stealing his money to send to her family? Did she sulk and become moody when she did not get her way? Most importantly, did she initiate physical attacks on the guy that ended with him kicking her ass? If you don't know these things, you need to find out. You may be surprised at what you discover. Don't assume that the ex-husband was just a stereotypical loud drunk asshole Aussie wife-beater. In reality, only a small percentage of men fit that stereotype in cases of domestic abuse. Covert female crazies often tell the story of the abusive ex-husband to draw in male targets. If she is telling the truth, you need to consider that the regular beatings most likely left her with PTSD in addition to her deep distrust and hatred of men. These mental issues could manifest themselves in unpleasant ways after you become locked into a marriage and there are kids that can be held like a shotgun to your head. Remember that love is a feeling, and long after those feelings change or go away, the consequences that you made based on those feelings will remain.

Several years ago, I dated a Filipina who claimed that her common law husband, who was a soldier in the AFP, had kicked her ass to within an inch of her life. She said was unable to walk for days. Her body was so stiff and swollen. Crawling to the outdoor toilet was out of the question so she soiled herself on the floor where she lay. Her neighbor brought her food and water when the soldier was not around. After a week, she was able to stand and walk slowly with great difficulty. She begged the neighbors for just enough jeepney and bus fare to flee the village and reach some relatives.

I did not dig into why the husband had beaten her when I first heard the story. However, I noticed that the more time I spent with her over a couple years the more moody she became when I did not meet her demands. The sulking would start when I declined requests to lend the relatives thousands of dollars. It got down to where sulking was the norm, and her only explanation would be family problems. Then one day she kicked the hotel phone off the dresser as her suppressed rage exploded. I told her to gather her things and leave immediately before hotel security arrived to assist her.

That incident was a pretty big clue as to what really happened with her ex-husband, and one of her siblings confirmed my suspicion with the whole story later on. So, it definitely pays to take your time and learn more about these Pinays. Don't take their version of events as fact without checking other sources. Most of them show their hand pretty quickly but the more problematic ones are very good little actresses, especially when you don't live with them all year.

As for the bar business in AC, you will be at risk of losing your lifesavings due to a raid or local landlord raising the rent to unreasonable rates after the initial lease expires. Rental contracts for commercial spaces in the Philippines usually require the tenant to provide the landlord with a year of post-dated checks to be cashed monthly or quarterly. However, AC landlords now asking that the rent be paid a year in advance as bars ran by the Korean mafia have no problem handing over that much cash up front since cash flow is not an issue. Local laws favor landlords allowing them to break leasing contracts at any time with a three-month notice in cases where they wish to use the property for their own business. This means your business, and every dollar invested in it, is always 90 days away from disaster depending on the landlord's whims. If the business is successful and generates a lot of foot traffic, it is not unusual for the landlord to start getting ideas.

The Philippines has many elderly Westerners living there illegally. These guys entered the country legally and maintained their status for years until a medical disaster or accident struck them personally or one of their children. They fell behind on the visa extension fees and exit requirements. The penalties started to accrue. Now, 25 to 35 years later they are deportable aliens. Many of them cannot even remember the name of the woman who first convinced them to move there. Their savings are long gone and some have had disability pensions cut off because they failed to keep up with verification paperwork. Some have no prospects back in their homeland and will die as penniless drunks in the Philippines. A lot of them never imagined things ending like that when they arrived decades ago. Most of them are not living in AC as that actually requires a bit of money.