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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2581477]I have been reading the FKK forums on ISG with interest over the past few weeks. I have not been to Germany now for 9 months. I managed to get to Artemis twice in the middle of lockdowns last year and had a good time despite the numbers being lower than usual. Prices were "normal" 60/30 and 120/ hour but every girl wanted 20 extra for BBBJ and they seemed to have some sort of communal agreement between them as I didn't speak to a single girl who broke that rule in 2 days.

I am therefore somewhat bewildered by the reports from Palace (the ever-reliable Lanthano), Sharks, and Oase, that 100/30 is becoming the norm for a room including DFK and BBBJ. What has caused this .....[/QUOTE]I am totally unperturbed by the increased upselling. It is very early times yet. Sharks et al have been open just a couple weeks now. Things are bound to be haywire in the earlies. Patience is my most important virtue right now. I am certain that by next year and beyond things will be as good as or even better than 2019. Both service providers and clientele are circumspect right now. When this pandemic is beat people will want to enjoy life at a level to compensate for the lockdowns under covid; girls need money to have fun, don't they?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2581619]I am totally unperturbed by the increased upselling. It is very early times yet. Sharks et al have been open just a couple weeks now. Things are bound to be haywire in the earlies. Patience is my most important virtue right now. I am certain that by next year and beyond things will be as good as or even better than 2019. Both service providers and clientele are circumspect right now. When this pandemic is beat people will want to enjoy life at a level to compensate for the lockdowns under covid; girls need money to have fun, don't they?[/QUOTE]Good post. I agree that very little can be gleaned from the dynamics in place currently in a few clubs. First, there are only a couple of reports, some of dubious authenticity and reliability; and things are very much in a flux. We need to give it a few months or longer to assess how things are. My general observation is that some amount of inflation has been creeping up for a while (a few girls asking for extra money for kissing and blow job w / o condom, cutting short on time and services, etc.) and that accelerated post 2017, and I expect more of the same (I. E, continued inflation) when things are back to normal, whatever that normal means. That is my expectation, feel free to disagree.

Reports about current LU and level of pricing and services in the clubs are interesting to read from an entertainment purpose but any dude who flies across the oceans and splurges thousands for a few days of clubbing should go in with at least an awareness that things may not work out as they used to; or else, they will be needlessly filled with dissatisfaction.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2581619]I am totally unperturbed by the increased upselling. It is very early times yet. Sharks et al have been open just a couple weeks now. Things are bound to be haywire in the earlies. Patience is my most important virtue right now. I am certain that by next year and beyond things will be as good as or even better than 2019. Both service providers and clientele are circumspect right now. When this pandemic is beat people will want to enjoy life at a level to compensate for the lockdowns under covid; girls need money to have fun, don't they?[/QUOTE]But covid changed something: girls who worked in apartment for 150/60, low rate for escorts in Germany when 150/200/60 , don t want to work for less now and new busy girls who are busier than these ex escorts, learn they deserve same earning when they are busier. But can still find girls for 50 per 30 mn, just matter of choice and expectation for pleasure. I prefer to pay 150/60 to enjoy with a real beauty, when I usually won t pay for nearly 95% of girls. Of course, I preferred to pay 100/60 + tip she shy asked on her first day, but no other choice for me and she was still full busy. No regret for money I spent on her quality, when I really enjoyed our second room on day. I would have paid double at Globe. Beauties worth more expensive than average looks for me.

So thanks for the various responses. Mr Ho. Payforit is very much prepared to Pay For It! If you read some of my recent posts in the Costa Del Sol Clubs only thread (not the main thread. Scroll down the Spain page to the blogs) you'll see I "invested" quite heavily in a recent trip. But I think the comparison is appropriate. With respect to Spermbirds (great post thanks), I'm not sure my maths were SO bad! I take the point that a willingness to shell out a lot would mean most girls would negotiate. But I think my moan was probably directed at all of these add on extras. I know they have always been there, but it is annoying. I compare it to going to a restaurant a bit! So you order the best steak in the house. It comes with nothing. No sides, no potatoes, no salad, no vegetables, no sauce. Imagine you say you just want the steak. Means you don't eat a full meal.

I think I'm going to test this out. I'll head to Germany despite my concerns (noted the helpful and positive / optimistic post about different forums having different stories from Spermbirds). When I get to Sharks (shame about Oase as I love the outdoors and like the club), and to World, Mainhattan and Palace, when I like a girl and want to head to the room, I'm going to ask "ok so I would like 2 hours please including DFK, dom, BBBJ, Anal, rimming, and CIM. Can you let me know the price please?" I rather suspect the girls (plural) I ask will themselves be reaching for their phones to look at calculators. I suspect they will go with 50/30 and 100/ hour so 200 given the likely menu. So my tally would be 200 plus 100 anal, 50 Dom, 50 CIM meaning total 400 for the two hours all in. Which, on the face of it, doesn't sound too bad. Imagine they then try to upsell the BBBJ and DFK? You don't believe they will? Let's see.

Noted from Turgid but in life prices rarely go down. Punters won't dwindle and therefore the girls will keep up what they can get.

Artemis at 90 and 70/30 140/60 is silly but then it enjoys the monopoly.

Expat Lover. Escorts not for me at all. Tried many times and a mix of too much bait and switch, photoshop and no choice from physical line up means boring for me.

Sad to hear my good friend The Cane has already abandoned Spain. E92 remains excellent value my friend and you should get to visit Deana at Club Cleofas in Campamento near Gibraltar a specialist in your passion and no extra at all. Included in standard price. Also, despite the hiked prices, the LU in Scandalos this past 3 months is the best it has ever been. Many 9/10's.

I am so jealous if the Brazilian trips!

I'm not giving up on FKK that easily. But I do want to see just how much this upselling trend is being pushed.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2581654]I'm not giving up on FKK that easily. But I do want to see just how much this upselling trend is being pushed.[/QUOTE]I shall look forward to your reports. But yes in the meantime, all things remaining the same, The Cane in Spain is done.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2581677]I shall look forward to your reports. But yes in the meantime, all things remaining the same, The Cane in Spain is done.[/QUOTE]Which clubs which are still around have the free birthday entry still?

[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2581524]Pfff. Incredible mathematics.

No, the upselling has not gone through the roof in most clubs. Yes, probably in Oase (it was already a no-go club with almost zero DFK-offering gals anyway the last few years and therefore the reasonably intelligent clubbers avoid the club since 5 years anyway, or only go there for sunbathing and zero sessions). Artemis don't know but already overpriced compared to the rest of Germany, Palace is / was a tourist trap. But again, most other clubs have pretty much stayed the same regarding upselling. A small percentage of the girls (newly arrived "princesses", the top-3 most pretty girls of the club maybe) will ask for 150 E pro hour, or some really overambitious ones maybe the mentioned 200 from colleague PayForIt. But the basic and commonly demanded price is still 100 for 1 hour, so rethink your mathematics. Yes, extras are the same price as before and the entry in for instance Sharks is 50 E or 65 E on Friday / Saturday currently. But if you buy the 5 entries pack you pay 50 E anytime. Your mathematics resulting in 665 for 2 hours is ridiculous, zero girls in Sharks or any other club apart from maybe Oase / Palace / Artemis will cost you 200 Euro for 2 hours plus you wished extras, entry 50 E mainly at the moment so even including 50 FT, 50 Dom,100 Anal will cost you 450 instead of 665. Maybe you could write Santaclaus a letter and politely ask for a decent calculator. Just kiddin'.

Didn't club much lately as I mentioned before in another thread (because the line-ups are mostly soso and the guest-gals-ratio is not advantageous in most clubs) but the few visits this year in Switzerland (Globe once, Cleo twice, club Midnight twice) and Germany (Sharks once, AcaGold once) resulted in zero upsell-booked ladies. From all those visits, only one club had a decent male-female ratio by the way.

In a short summary:

Switzerland:.[/QUOTE]Those Spanish and Italian girls with fluent Romanian skill in German FKK got some amazing math, I always do add and subtract game in the room like 50 times 2 equal 200 and I tell them that is 100, then she say no it is 150, then we kinda agree LOL!

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2581654]So thanks for the various responses. Mr Ho. Payforit is very much prepared to Pay For It! If you read some of my recent posts in the Costa Del Sol Clubs only thread (not the main thread. Scroll down the Spain page to the blogs) you'll see I "invested" quite heavily in a recent trip. But I think the comparison is appropriate. With respect to Spermbirds (great post thanks), I'm not sure my maths were SO bad! I take the point that a willingness to shell out a lot would mean most girls would negotiate. But I think my moan was probably directed at all of these add on extras. I know they have always been there, but it is annoying. I compare it to going to a restaurant a bit! So you order the best steak in the house. It comes with nothing. No sides, no potatoes, no salad, no vegetables, no sauce. Imagine you say you just want the steak. Means you don't eat a full meal.

I think I'm going to test this out. I'll head to Germany despite my concerns (noted the helpful and positive / optimistic post about different forums having different stories from Spermbirds). When I get to Sharks (shame about Oase as I love the outdoors and like the club), and to World, Mainhattan and Palace, when I like a girl and want to head to the room, I'm going to ask "ok so I would like 2 hours please including DFK, dom, BBBJ, Anal, rimming, and CIM. Can you let me know the price please?" I rather suspect the girls (plural) I ask will themselves be reaching for their phones to look at calculators. I suspect they will go with 50/30 and 100/ hour so 200 given the likely menu. So my tally would be 200 plus 100 anal, 50 Dom, 50 CIM meaning total 400 for the two hours all in. Which, on the face of it, doesn't sound too bad. Imagine they then try to upsell the BBBJ and DFK? You don't believe they will? Let's see.[/QUOTE]Well in German FKK, we mongers have to hustle everyday like rick ross song LOL! Be like 50 cent and hustle, but we are 50 euro, not 50 cent LOL!

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2581607]This seems like a good strategy to try now that rental cars are terrible priced.

Plus you should plead not guilty and demand a trial if every caught, that way you can stay in Germany pending trial and hopefully be put on probation which required not to lease Germany until the term of probation ends. Then they will have to give you free health insurance and a place to live during this time at least.[/QUOTE]It is not big deal, once on the way to venlo, I got caught with a ticket, but I did not stamp it and I played stupid tourist, like oh I did not know, oh and he let me go, whatta wonderful world LOL!

And also on the same route different day, immigration stepped into the train to check ID of some of the passenger, and police came toward me and looked at me and then he looked the seat next to me and check some German looking white guys document and did not even bother to check mine LOL! I mean I looked much more foreigner than that white guy LOL! This happened in Switzerland too when I was a student, once I was in my car with normal girl at night looking at lake and talking and police car came to check us as the car is parked in middle of nowhere front of the lake with two people inside, and then police asked my friend a girl who is white and half Greek and half swiss for her ID and did not even bother to check my ID or car document LOL! I mean, I am presentable person, but still I do look foreigner, so what is going on with EU authorities LOL!

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2581698]Which clubs which are still around have the free birthday entry still..[/QUOTE]Quoted from my previous alias. Not all info is first hand. Some were provided by trusted mongers or other forums. Last time I went to Samya, they let me in free on my bday. However, a manager came down to the locker area to ask me how I knew about the bday deal. Since it's also no longer mentioned on the website, this led me to believe that they are phasing out this policy. I just told him that Bday at Samya has been my tradition for "10 years" and he was happy to let me celebrate for free.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2136316]Updated List of Free entry birthday.


Samya.

Babylon.

Mondial

Mainhattan.

World. (Verify with new pricing system)

Sixsens..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2581698]Which clubs which are still around have the free birthday entry still?[/QUOTE]GT, LR, not anymore 6 ens NL now under upselling, nor Bab. Times changed since beginning of 2020.

After a year long "lock down" I am finally planning a drive down to NRW, fully vaccinated and with a EU COVID pass in my phone. I have RTFF but still have couple of questions after doing my home work.

Has anyone had any hassle staying in hotels in NRW lately due to corona restrictions (some hotels still claims on their web page that a negative test is needed, other say that the EU COVID pass is required, others have no info on the web)? Will the EU COVID pass be corona-documentation enough for the clubs to be let in? Or do they ask for a negative test? From what I understand Samya is OK with only the EU COVID pass.

T.

In June the lady at the reception asked for a test in my hotel in Aachen. Last week I slept in a hotel with a keybox so no one asked me anything.

As for the clubs, it looks like they lifted the restrictions a few days ago (no masks, no registration in Aca gold or Rheingold) but since the incidence rate is rising again, get prepared to show some proof of your health condition.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2581654]....I'm not giving up on FKK that easily....[/QUOTE]Whoever came up with the FKK model should be highly commended. I remember my first visit to an FKK (Oase) over 15 years ago I felt as if I was in a dream. However, I don't think Germany will be my first post covid port of call, neither anywhere in Asia. I suspect either the Dominican Republic or Colombia will be my choice as they seem to be less frenzied about this pandemic. As I get older I like to enjoy the ambience and be relaxed. If I were younger I'd probably be trying my best to get to Frankfurt right now.

[QUOTE=Tjohoo;2581952]After a year long "lock down" I am finally planning a drive down to NRW, fully vaccinated and with a EU COVID pass in my phone. I have RTFF but still have couple of questions after doing my home work.

Has anyone had any hassle staying in hotels in NRW lately due to corona restrictions (some hotels still claims on their web page that a negative test is needed, other say that the EU COVID pass is required, others have no info on the web)? Will the EU COVID pass be corona-documentation enough for the clubs to be let in? Or do they ask for a negative test? From what I understand Samya is OK with only the EU COVID pass.

T.[/QUOTE]This begs the question that if one gets covid and can't check into a hotel where does he stay? Does he just get a tent or sleep in the car? And then take a shower at a truck stop?