Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=FlappyGilmore0;3055264]Read this report sipping gin and tonic and wishing I was back in SP. I recently chose Barcelona over SP and am regretting it.

Way to salvage a bad situation bud. I would have never had the patience to hang in there after hearing her lie about the getting in trouble for BBBJ and requested payment for nothing. If I remember correctly you speak fluent Portuguese. So I assume this back and forth wasn't through a translator. Using a translator app in situations like this causes me to lose patience more quickly.

Had a situation in Scan where a girl thought I was a complete noob and tried to force payment for sitting with me and letting me grope while we enjoyed one drink. Fortunately I had just met the manager with a fellow ISGer and so I made a comment about asking him and she left. Definitely blame other dumb gringos that tip these chics for sitting with them.

You really can't beat Scandallo for a high end good time and a good plus is not having to worry much about being scoped or swindled.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say fluent but conversational to where I don't need a translator so it was to the point. She got the point and I got what I wanted. If I had lost my hard on while negotiating, I would have gotten up and walked out.

I visited Gauguin Club, and the best way to describe it is "Scandallo Lite. " The vibe felt familiar right away. In fact, I recognized and knew a couple of the security guys and two waiters who used to work at Scandallo, which made the place feel comfortable from the start.

I tried to make the early bird entry, but missed it by about 15 minutes — I walked in around 9:15 PM. Still worth it. Right away the atmosphere hits you: the garotas dressed in elegant evening dresses, moving around the club, great eye candy and a slightly more polished feel than Casarao.

First stop was the bar. Nice, they actually stock 18-year and 21+-year whiskey, Good start to the night.

The layout is solid: multiple floors, easy to move around, and a few quieter areas to talk. The rooms upstairs are are $200, which is pretty reasonable and reinforces the whole Scandallo-like feeling a similar environment but more affordable from when scandallo was are $800 brl and under are $1000 brl (dating myself with those prices kkk).

I never actually asked garota price. Instead I simply offered are $800 to go upstairs, paid the are $200 room fee, and used my credit card for the garota payment. For anyone wondering: InfinitePay, MercadoLibre Pay PagSeguro / PagBank all these worked with my US credit cards without any issues. Just remember the name used in card transaction and take a screenshot or have the garota send on wassap.

One interesting thing about the night: every interaction turned into a reverse interview. Two attractive garotas would sit down, start chatting in Portuguese, and once they realized I could respond in brasilian porto the energy completely bumped up to next level. Suddenly it was 21 questions.

They asked about everything:

• travel.

• living in Brazil.

• music, other boates.

• food.

• clothes.

• relationships.

• what I thought about Brazilian culture.

The conversations actually flowed naturally. Speaking Portuguese definitely helps not just for the conversation, but also for setting expectations clearly before going upstairs.

Overall impression: Gauguin is a comfortable, affordable version of my favorite Scandallo, with a familiar crowd and staff, good drinks, and plenty of friendly garotas willing to talk.

Afterwards around 1 am I bounced over to the value mart at Casarão to grab a late-night two garotas duo session. Two sexy blonde loiras, short 5'2 GND with natural boobs & bundas from MG.

A excellent solid night.

[QUOTE=ZofoMofo;3055088]This is good info. Based on your comments I signed up for Meu Patrocino (MP) on the web and downloaded the app. Both seem glitchy for some reason. I sent our the 10 free messages allowed for new users, but when it asked me to sign up for a "premium" or "elite" membership the app and website never linked to the subscription menu or let me sign up. I wonder if this has something to do with my Google store account being linked to a USA Bank account? Or is it some other technical problem.

It seems you have had success meeting non-pros with the site.

Any advice on the site you could provide, technical or otherwise, would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]The website is pretty glitchy. I was able to sign up and use my USA card thru the website and not the app. I didn't download the app. I recommend send them a generic message to get the conservation moved to WhatsApp as soon as possible so you can avoid the website / app. Also, the majority of the girls are pretty direct and they appreciate the directness. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

[QUOTE=ZofoMofo;3055088]but when it asked me to sign up for a "premium" or "elite" membership the app and website never linked to the subscription menu or let me sign up. I wonder if this has something to do with my Google store account being linked to a USA Bank account? Or is it some other technical problem.

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Any advice on the site you could provide, technical or otherwise, would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]It takes credit card. This is from the app. You have a us card, so you need to check the box on the bottom to indicate you have a credit card from abroad. Web site is the same. I don't think they accept Google Pay if that was what you were asking. I think they are a US based company.

You probably are hindered by the Portuguese. There is a always a link that you can sigh up without discount from within their site. They used to give away 7 days promotion for R79 all the time 3 years ago. Check your email and you should see some promotional emails with longer terms.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3055275]The website is pretty glitchy. I was able to sign up and use my USA card thru the website and not the app. I didn't download the app. I recommend send them a generic message to get the conservation moved to WhatsApp as soon as possible so you can avoid the website / app. Also, the majority of the girls are pretty direct and they appreciate the directness. Good luck and let us know how it goes.[/QUOTE]What opening message do you send them on MP? And do you usually translate it to Portuguese? I'm quite experienced with Seeking and have mastered the template opening message based on girls in different countries. Direct vs indirect etc. I'm assuming in Brazil you can be quite direct? I haven't had much success with MP for some reason, so would really appreciate a template opening message that's worked for you?

Would be great to bag a few semi-pros from there. Much better GFE. However, the one thing I find difficult in Brazil is girls on Instagram etc. Filter their pics way too much where you can't even see what they look like. And the trans chicks that do a great job at of masquerading haha.

One of the things about Rio I appreciate their whole gparena system and how it keeps both the providers and clients honest and incentivized to put forward their better effort.

In São Paulo, there are a bunch of clinicas ("massagems") and it seems to be hit or miss because providers change, management change, new ones crop up, other ones decline or go out of business. I guess the randomness of it is part of the thrill, but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of incentive for the providers to do their best, and it feels like playing whack a mole a bit. I got shafted at I think Sharon Premium it was and they offered me 10% off my next one, which I thought was kind of a slap in the face.

Sure the clubs and online are plenty good options, but I think this is an important extra layer which has room for improvement as far as systemizing. I don; t claim to have the answers, but I know there are a ton of diamonds in the rough with clinicas and it's time efficiency is appealing to me. No dressing up, drinks, deciding takeout fees vs room fees, no negotiating on time, etc. Just might have to negotiate some extras is all.

I'm having a hard time finding afternoon freelancer spots where the girls can go home with you. 57 Friends is pretty good but it's only one place.

Where would Alto bom gosto, the legendary ABG go?

Miruna, the clinicas, for a sustainable cost per fuck. Then to Tako Sushi in Liberdade for the all you can eat rodizio.

The basic issue is who fucks better? The cariocas the Rio girls fuck better. I believe that, and I've heard that from many over and over.

[QUOTE=JacobMann;3055391]One of the things about Rio I appreciate their whole gparena system and how it keeps both the providers and clients honest and incentivized to put forward their better effort.

In So Paulo, there are a bunch of clinicas ("massagems") and it seems to be hit or miss because providers change, management change, new ones crop up, other ones decline or go out of business. I guess the randomness of it is part of the thrill, but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of incentive for the providers to do their best, and it feels like playing whack a mole a bit. I got shafted at I think Sharon Premium it was and they offered me 10% off my next one, which I thought was kind of a slap in the face.

Sure the clubs and online are plenty good options, but I think this is an important extra layer which has room for improvement as far as systemizing. I don; t claim to have the answers, but I know there are a ton of diamonds in the rough with clinicas and it's time efficiency is appealing to me. No dressing up, drinks, deciding takeout fees vs room fees, no negotiating on time, etc. Just might have to negotiate some extras is all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jbob084;3055344]What opening message do you send them on MP? And do you usually translate it to Portuguese? I'm quite experienced with Seeking and have mastered the template opening message based on girls in different countries. Direct vs indirect etc. I'm assuming in Brazil you can be quite direct? I haven't had much success with MP for some reason, so would really appreciate a template opening message that's worked for you?

Would be great to bag a few semi-pros from there. Much better GFE. However, the one thing I find difficult in Brazil is girls on Instagram etc. Filter their pics way too much where you can't even see what they look like. And the trans chicks that do a great job at of masquerading haha.[/QUOTE]It is a simple message. I tell them I am coming into town during x-x dates, where I am staying, looking for a date for lunch or dinner and am looking for someone interesting to talk to. Then I say that I don't check the website that often since it is glitchy and to contact me on WhatsApp at my number. I have a Rio based number and the message is in Portuguese. The ones who are interested send me a message on WhatsApp and I take it from there. Some girls are pretty chatty, some are not. I invite them to a meal and tell them what I offer for lunch or long term and then set up a date. Got all this advice from Steve9696 and SocratesNY.

Good luck!!

Gauguin Night Report.
Club: Gauguin.
City: So Paulo.
Arrival: 11 pm.
Drinks: 21 year whiskey.
Girls working: about 35 to 40.
Room price: 450 BRL for two garotas.250 BRL for one
Girl rate: 800 BRL each.
Total damage: about 2050 BRL.

returned Back at Gauguin last night.

Rolled in around 11 pm and the place was already packed with delicious garotas. Walk up to the entrance, no pat down or anything. Just hand over your ID and they give you a wristband so you can order drinks and food.

You walk through the tall vertical doors and instantly get hit with that mix of Good Girl, J'adore and Boticrio perfumes floating in the air. If you spend time in So Paulo nightlife you start recognizing that scent combo immediately.

Live local band playing old school cover music. Whole place had a relaxed but busy vibe. Tables full of dudes talking to potential dates and sharing champagne bottles.

Just like the night before I headed to the bar. Only difference this time almost every bar seat was already taken by garotas. It was basically a full lineup parade.

Found one empty seat and ordered a 21 year whiskey while just chilling and scanning the room.

Then suddenly a breath of fresh air walks by.

Damn.

Short, skinny, curvy blonde. Maybe 21. Total smoke show. She walks right up to me and gives me a big hug.

For a few seconds I was confused and then it clicked. We had actually met before months ago at a luxury clinic session here in So Paulo. Small world. Kkk.

She looked Scandallo level gorgeous.

We started catching up and it honestly felt like reconnecting with an old lover. Right away I knew the night was going to be fun.

She introduced me to her 22 year old amiga. Bottle blonde, slightly chubby but cute and playful. Within a few minutes the two of them started doing some playful lesbo kissing at the bar while we were laughing and talking.

Whole thing had a fun party vibe.

After about 40 minutes of conversation and the usual 21 questions interview, I made an offer.

800 BRL for each girl.

They agreed instantly.

Honestly bros that response was way too fast. No counter offer. Next time I will probably start around 600 or 700 BRL just to test the waters.

We grabbed the elevator and went up to the second floor to get a room.

Then I realized something interesting. When you take two garotas the room price doubles. Came out to 450 BRL.

Kind of pricey but the room is bigger so it makes sense. Two sofas, stand up table and more space to move around.

Honestly it was great having a hot blonde who already knew exactly what to do. No explanations needed. Everything flowed naturally.

After the session we all showered.

Payment system here is interesting. I paid with my credit card through InfinitePay. The garotas phones are held by the cashier on the second floor so the payment happens after everything is finished.

Afterwards I went back downstairs to recover and ordered more whiskey and some food.

The IOP illusion of passion continued for another hour and a half. She sat on my lap while we talked and joked around. Super relaxed vibe.

One thing I will say to the bros.

Learning Brazilian Portuguese is totally worth it.

Many garotas working here come from Minas Gerais, Campinas, Santa Catarina and smaller interior cities. A lot of them arrive through Jabaquara metro station and many speak very little English.

For newbies Knowing even basic Portuguese makes the interaction way smoother. Duo lingo not helpful for the types of convo with garotas you want to have. Google translate sux use an AI app to better translate meaning and slang phrases.

The bar seats are lined up to easily see the garota lineup.

Many garotas purposely sit at the bar because it is where dudes entering the club naturally stop first. If the bar is full of garotas it usually means the club is active, busy and the girls are still working the room.

Garota Phones stay with the second floor cashier.

During sessions the garotas phones stay with the cashier upstairs. This prevents interruptions.

I did the payment using infinitepay on her phone while sitting on the sofa in front of the elevators. Its more secure for the garotas to get digital payment.

Sorry to say I personally know many garotas that have had their bolsa purses robbed by stupid motoboys. They have cash leaving clubs at night. That is too tempting for snatch & grab mofos. Or the Rio garotas leaving by 7 pm the centro massage spas taking metro in centro or onibus have been targeted to unfortunately get robbed.

Quick Rating.

Club vibe: 9/10.

Talent: 8/10.

Prices: 7/10.

Music and atmosphere: 10/10.

Overall Gauguin is still one of the more fun clubs in So Paulo if you want a lively atmosphere and lots of interaction.

Definitely coming back.

[QUOTE=JacobMann;3055391]One of the things about Rio I appreciate their whole gparena system and how it keeps both the providers and clients honest and incentivized to put forward their better effort.

In So Paulo, there are a bunch of clinicas ("massagems") and it seems to be hit or miss because providers change, management change, new ones crop up, other ones decline or go out of business. I guess the randomness of it is part of the thrill, but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of incentive for the providers to do their best, and it feels like playing whack a mole a bit. I got shafted at I think Sharon Premium it was and they offered me 10% off my next one, which I thought was kind of a slap in the face.

Sure the clubs and online are plenty good options, but I think this is an important extra layer which has room for improvement as far as systemizing. I don; t claim to have the answers, but I know there are a ton of diamonds in the rough with clinicas and it's time efficiency is appealing to me. No dressing up, drinks, deciding takeout fees vs room fees, no negotiating on time, etc. Just might have to negotiate some extras is all.[/QUOTE]Apparently you don't know about gp-guia.net. Everything you want to know about the Sao Paulo mongering scene, especially clinicas, is there. Use Google translate. Information about the clinicas and tons of reports from clients about their session with girls in the clinicas, since, if you post a report about your session at the clinica, you get a 20-30% discount on future sessions.

In my experience, the clinicas in Moema and the surrounding areas are very honest and not scammy. Just talk to the girl you are interested in to confirm she will do what you want in the session before selecting her to avoid issues in the room.

Thursday.

GND girl from 57 Friends decided to renegotiate with me and I declined her new price.

Walked to Clinica Paulista 132 r. Silvio Sacramento. I was almost certain before going I wouldn't find anyone I wanted to session with due to it being already kind of late (7 pm). Indeed there were only 3 girls there and none were good looking. I interviewed the best looking one of the three but she didn't give me good vibes so I didn't bother to make an offer. I'm starting to think that to get actually pretty girls from clinicas, you have to go to the higher end ones. So far the lineups in the 300-400 real and below ones were OK at best except the single Latina girl I saw at Prime.

Went back to 57 Friends since there were quite a few good looking girls yesterday. I saw the GND girl who renegged on me, but avoided her and chatted with another brown skinny girl. I explained that I wanted BBFS and before I gave her the number, she said it'll cost more and she flashed 5 on her hands. I was going to start with 600 but I took the signal and offered 500 + Uber and she accepted immediately and said she can come after 11 pm. Before I walked out, one even prettier girl walked by. I regretted a little making a move so early, but this girl was pretty enough.

11:30 pm she comes right on time. Very professional but in a good way. She takes directions and doesn't complain. However her pussy is dry and I had to use a lot of lube. I've noticed that girls who use weed tend to have dry pussies and she's also a user. The girl looks like Zoe Saldana, same skintone, mouth, eyes and everything. When we finish she tries to get me to pay for a 95 brl Uber. I told her, why don't we order from my phone because then I can use my card. She then says OK I'll take 50. Many girls will try to fish a little bit more out of you as a tip so I'm used to it.

I was looking for activities closer to Pinheiros and gpguia listed two small bars next to each other: Cafe Boulevard and Cafe Monik. I had the Uber drop me off at Rua Baltazar Carrasco 46 and there were those two bars but also about 5 others within several hundred feet of each other. They're all small and some are empty, but there's no cover for most of these places, so I can walk in and out in about 2 minutes. Most of the girls in those bars were not attractive (fat or ugly), but I found one decent looking girl who looks like a natural blonde (but not really sure). She was super drunk but I chatted her up anyway. She was hardly making any sense on the translator and she kept asking me to go to the rooms for 120 for half hour. I said I want to take her home and she asked someone what the exit fee is, and she came back with 500. Obviously this didn't seem right, and she was having a hard time understanding my offer, so I just gave up. I think many of you guys would find this area interesting just because of the ability to poke your head in for no cost. In total among all these clubs there were probably around 40 girls at this time of the night (2:30-3 am) so there's a possibility you'll find someone for cheap if you're staying close to that area.

I was thinking about going to Casarao but the 700 real girl from my first night at SP messaged me. She was working at Casarao at that moment. We agreed to meet after the club closes so I don't have to pay her exit fee. However she ended up flaking, wasting my late night.

Friday.

Went to Gauguin before the 9 pm cutoff such that the entry was all consumables for 120. There were about 20 girls when I arrived, most unoccupied. The first two I talked to didn't go out of the club. Next there was a natural redhead, I approached her, we had a good conversation and I proposed the BBFS offer. She says 5 k + taking a test at a local clinic. For her the test would be OK, but I asked her to come down on the 5 k, she wouldn't go below 4.5 k. By now it's 9:30, and I was thinking that my chances of getting a BBFS taker was low, just because of the low number of women at that time. I could wait until more girls came, but decided not to take the chance since I wanted to go to Bahamas Club. The idea is that 57 Friends and Bahamas Club were close to each other, and if I didn't get a girl in Bahamas, I could walk to 57 before it was too late. I ordered an entree to go and left GG.

Entry at Bahamas was either consumables + entry or entry only. I decided on the 210 entry only option. At this time there were also maybe 15 girls but almost all unoccupied and several worth talking to. The first one I approached was possibly one of the prettiest working girls I've ever seen face-wise. She didn't have much boobs, but her face was gorgeous. She looked like a Latina, white and Asian mix with natural dark blonde hair. I started with 1.5 k, she said 2 k and we wound up at 1. 7 k BBFS. Maybe I overpaid here since she took 1. 7 pretty easily but there aren't many data points for Bahamas, so I couldn't quite tell. If she didn't agree there was another I was eyeing. Exit fee was 330. Back at my apartment I think both she and I enjoyed the session as she moaning naturally during sex. Total cost was 210 + 330 + 1700 = 2240.

Back at Casarao late night, but before going in I walked to the other small bars nearby like Night House and some other one I forgot the name of. They were all charging 20 for cover and based on the women who were standing outside, I think it was throwing money away entering those establishments. Anyways, Casarao was jam packed as usual. In reality the girl concentration was so high that my earlier concern of girls talking to each other about bad experiences probably wasn't a realistic concern. Interviewed a couple of girls, with one reject and one not going out of the club. One fake blonde with nice tits approached me. She looked a little older but still pretty and looked like she had a nice body. Spoke some English. Agreed to 700 1 HR BBFS, paid exit, and back to my apartment. At the apartment I see her boobs were real but she had light baby damage on her belly, not too bad. She gave me a very enthusiastic blow job and we were clicking until she said we spent 2 hours already. I told I was clear in the club we were doing 1 hour and I don't count time. We went back and forth a bit, and in my mind she did stay 2 hours and she did pretty well during our session. So I gave her a 50 pity tip and paid her Uber back home. I'm starting to see an issue with these outcall girls that they try to extract more out of you after the session. But I've dealt with so many of these in Colombia that I've just learned to I hold my ground and try to stick with the previous agreement in those cases.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3055409]Where would Alto bom gosto, the legendary ABG go?

Miruna, the clinicas, for a sustainable cost per fuck. Then to Tako Sushi in Liberdade for the all you can eat rodizio.

The basic issue is who fucks better? The cariocas the Rio girls fuck better. I believe that, and I've heard that from many over and over.[/QUOTE]ABG's favorite was Tangara. Not much info on it these days.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3055410]It is a simple message. I tell them I am coming into town during x-x dates, where I am staying, looking for a date for lunch or dinner and am looking for someone interesting to talk to. Then I say that I don't check the website that often since it is glitchy and to contact me on WhatsApp at my number. I have a Rio based number and the message is in Portuguese. The ones who are interested send me a message on WhatsApp and I take it from there. Some girls are pretty chatty, some are not. I invite them to a meal and tell them what I offer for lunch or long term and then set up a date. Got all this advice from Steve9696 and SocratesNY.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I had to email the admins of the site. They fixed the problem. I'm already messaging the gals! I may need to visit Brazil sooner than I had planned!

You were paying $300-400 per session in Sao Paolo?

That's very high.