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[QUOTE=Skogis; 1352308]. As we were getting intimate and she is about to "smoke" me. She asks for condom. I got somewhat surprised this beeing the first time ever a freelancegirl as for sth
Like this. I instantly felt remote sick and junior went into sleeping mode.
Enjoy guys.[/QUOTE]I am delighted to see that there are some sensible ladies who rightly insist on a condom. I wish all mongers were as sensible given the prospect of catching STIs and more.
[QUOTE=AliGeeLi; 1352148]Hi Guys,
I have a question. Probably a bit unusual for here.
Actually I am not only looking for pretty Thai girls and good sex but actually a bit more. Namely a hot cutie which I potentially can meet over and over again. I wondered if anybody has experience or heard of girls looking for "sponsorship" in exchange for a "steady affair" with a bit more privacy. Indeed I would not even rule out thai offspring.[/QUOTE]Slow Down AliGee. If you are looking for a girl you can see over and over again, then every girl you meet in the Thai P4P world is a potential candidate. They all will want to see you again unless you are some kind of maniac. It is up to you to find the right girls that YOU really want to see again and again. It is nice to have a recurring thing going with a girl, but it is also great to meet new girls. Over the last 10 years, I have made "friends" with a few girls that I really liked more than the others I have shagged and I try to see the good ones every time I visit BKK. Over time attrition eliminates some girls from my list. Currently I have 2 girls I have been seeing for 3 plus years, 1 girl I have been seeing for 2 years, and another girl I have seen on two separate visits this last year. At the same time, I also enjoy the hunt and hooking up with new girls. I will never give that up!
The great thing about BKK and Pattaya as well as some other watering holes in South East Asia is that there is an oversupply of attractive available women. There is no reason to get tied down and some major reasons not to. So if your immediate goal is to sponsor a girl or get married, then I think you are looking for trouble, or at the very minimum, looking to throw away a lot of money. I have one rule with my BKK "friends," the minute they ask me to send them money, I am done with them. I treat my recurring girls real good when I am in town almost like girlfriends except I always leave cash in their purses with generous tips, but I never forget that they are professionals. So far none of my "friends" has asked me to sponsor them.
Sounds like a good plan if one can afford multiple apartments.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1352227]I have a mate, long long time BKK resident. He started off with one sponsored gal. Set her up in apartment etc and got to see her twice a week. The deal was she had to be always available for him. He then got bored with regula nookie from her so got girl number two and got her an apartment too. So then his sched was 2 nights with one, two nights with the other. Last time we chatted, he had gone all in, and had got girl number 3.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Skogis;1352308]Went to Spasso. Walked into the roundabout of a bar and suddenly lie my eyes on a beautiful girl in silver jeans. We talked and I tried to interperate her body language. Felt she was into having good fun so took her back to the President. Arrived hotel around 2am. As we were getting intimate and she is about to "smoke" me. She asks for condom. I got somewhat surprised this beeing the first time ever a freelancegirl as for sth like this. I instantly felt remote sick and junior went into sleeping mode. I told her what I felt and just simply asked her to leave. She tried to make a scene but could not go through with it as I felt this as a real kickback so I could not care less. I treated her decent and as she left with my 1000BHT compensation we agreed we both been stupid and if we see eachother again we will not kill eachother.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I guess we are different. Like you I despise covered BJ's. They are pretty worthless IMHO, but unless the girl and I have previously agreed on BBBJ and on those few occasions when covered BJ is the way the girl wants to perform; I let it go and I allow her to proceed with the session. That's because, unless previously agreed upon, I do not think BBBJ is a de facto requirement for a Thai working girl in Spasso. After all Spasso is not the Mango massage parlor where BBBJ and Rim jobs ARE part of the implied guaranteed service. Most Spasso girls will perform BBBJ, but not all. Covered may be just part of her personal hygiene. I consider it a strike against her (the covered BJ) for sure, but it does not necessarily mean the rest of the session will be bad or that the girl is ripping you off. But if it means that much to you, then you should always bring it up in the interview before you take the girl out of the bar. Who wants the aggravation and trouble of aborting the session, arguing, and paying her something to send her away? If the girl reneges on her promise of BBBJ, then you have a legitimate right to terminate the session and say bye bye. Now that said, I think under the circumstances you described, of no sex having occurred, you did the right thing in paying her a 1000bt for her time and trouble, but remember, you will be looked upon as the bad guy in this story from the girl's point of view. I wouldn't go back to Spasso for a while. Word will get out and the girls may not be so happy to go out with you. I am a little surprised she did offer to smoke you bareback if it meant to not do so she would lose her fee. What was the agreed upon price for the session? 4000bt ST/6000bt LT?
[QUOTE=JesseJames; 1352133]. You clowns who think you don't have to pay should be ashamed of yourselves. Most of these girls are come from a background of poverty. Do you think they like some drunken fat slob laying on top of them? Should they do that for free? No.[/QUOTE]I would strongly recommend you look yourself at the mirror when addressing such descriptions and definitions as clown, etc.
You can not agree with somebody decisions on how to pay and what to pay, but your attitude puts you at the wrong end of the discussion.
I don't think this forum needs such an argumentative attitude
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1352307]In the interest of not misleading the uniniated :
"The lady you asked after must have been a consultant"
Consultant versus nurses as if there is a difference.
"When you weigh it up it is actually a very cost effective deal."
Cost effective for whom.
"If you go to a go-go bar and try to pick up a girl at say 9 o'clock and ask for LT the vast majority will refuse, in the event you find one who consents you will be quoted.
5,000 baht"
Simply not true.
"An alternative is to use our V. I. P room which is 2, 500 for 2 hours. Although I do appreciate some people prefer to exclusively use their own hotel."
Most oilies will give you 2 hours for 2300 (800 +1500) and the selection and in a lot of shops the room is infinitely better
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1352337]Interesting. I guess we are different. Like you I despise covered BJ's. They are pretty worthless IMHO, but unless the girl and I have previously agreed on BBBJ and on those few occasions when covered BJ is the way the girl wants to perform; I let it go and I allow her to proceed with the session. That's because, unless previously agreed upon, I do not think BBBJ is a de facto requirement for a Thai working girl in Spasso. After all Spasso is not the Mango massage parlor where BBBJ and Rim jobs ARE part of the implied guaranteed service. Most Spasso girls will perform BBBJ, but not all. Covered may be just part of her personal hygiene. I consider it a strike against her (the covered BJ) for sure, but it does not necessarily mean the rest of the session will be bad or that the girl is ripping you off. But if it means that much to you, then you should always bring it up in the interview before you take the girl out of the bar. Who wants the aggravation and trouble of aborting the session, arguing, and paying her something to send her away? If the girl reneges on her promise of BBBJ, then you have a legitimate right to terminate the session and say bye bye. Now that said, I think under the circumstances you described, of no sex having occurred, you did the right thing in paying her a 1000bt for her time and trouble, but remember, you will be looked upon as the bad guy in this story from the girl's point of view. I wouldn't go back to Spasso for a while. Word will get out and the girls may not be so happy to go out with you. I am a little surprised she did offer to smoke you bareback if it meant to not do so she would lose her fee. What was the agreed upon price for the session? 4000bt ST/6000bt LT?[/QUOTE]Thank you for nice reply and mostly we are agreeing. The agreed going price was undiscussed and so money were not a subject whatsoever (as I like it). In hotelroom I told her I now the Spasso deal so you get according to this deal and in my life the Spasso deal range from 3. 6000Bht. Mostly for great performance I give 4-5000 and no lady complains. For extremely great service 6K is to be had but then the performance stands out as outrages.
I agree with you in interviewing the girls properly beforehand but yet again I have never ever been adviced to have CBBJ from a girl from Spasso and I have been many times at Spasso, hehe. I thought it would not happend. But it did.
In the big picture this is just a small incident not going to rock the world from us punters but it is well adviced to bare in back of mind that maby, as you state, communicate to avoid surprises like this.
The rest of the session might be good bcs she looked like a good performer. But I could not just help it but to end the session and bye bye. And as stated no hard feelings amongst us as we had quite a good chat on how to prevent future meetings. As education for both of us.
Climax here we come again. Never fails.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1352217]You are correct in that there has been a lot of regeneration in Soi 7/1 in the last 6-7 months, a very welcome breath of fresh air.
Regards.
BJ[/QUOTE]I attribute the change with the kick off of Dr. BJs last Oct, Nov. I was in the first week, have been a not so regular.
Do enjoy your rotating stock as well as the patented rotating booth LOL!
How are the quality of girls in Scratchdog, Bossy, and Shock 39? I think I'll check out one or all of those joints for some freelance action and make a short TR. But I'd like to go where the quality girls are, not the mutts! BTW, shouldn't FREElancers be free?
[QUOTE=JesseJames; 1352133]Thailand, Cambodia and Burma are the only places in the world where you pay the girl after sex. So, if some guys start not paying them or have some weird cancellation formula, that is going to change the game entirely. The price, here, is cheap enough so that a falang can pay up, even though he may not be entirely satisfied with the service they've been given. 1000 Bt is nothing. Guys pay twice that for a lap dance in the West. The man who doesn't pay a girl is the criminal, guilty of theft of services.
In Tijauna, for example, you pay the agreed price, than the girl says "Sin Ropa, $5." Extra for this and that. You have to pay upfront. If you don't pay she keeps her top on. Simple as that.
Thailand is the best scene in the world. You clowns who think you don't have to pay should be ashamed of yourselves. Most of these girls are come from a background of poverty. Do you think they like some drunken fat slob laying on top of them? Should they do that for free? No.
Most have kids and families to support. It's a disgrace to cheat them out of 1, 000. Bt because some jerk doesn't like their attitude or other trivial thing. You want to intimidate a single mom because you're some big shot falang, shame on you.
You don't know how good you have it here. Go to Brooklyn or Newark, pay some girl and the next thing you know some guys show up with a gun and rob you. Vietnam, too. Most places that have P4P are dangerous. Not here. But that can change if morons start cheating girls out of their hard earned fee. Try to get your money back in Dominican Republic. You're lucky you don't get mugged to begin with.
If you don't pay up, as agreed, some girls will get so mad they will cut you up. Read the Pattaya Mail. It happens a lot.
I've read some comments lately that are nasty, written by hateful mean horrible men who should just get drunk and stay that way and not mess around with the girls in Thailand.
You tell me to go away. The hell with you. I live here. I can't just check out of a hotel and vanish, leaving pissed off people behind.
While we were playing cowboys and indians, these girls were working in the fields and butchering chickens. They are strong and tough. Don't underestimate them. I'm giving you good advice that could save you a lot of problems. Just pay as agreed.[/QUOTE]Thailand is NOT the US, or Vietnam, or the Dominican. Although the pay for play scene here is becoming far more like those places, precisely because too many men come over here and drop ridiculous amounts of cash in the laps of the girls AND don't expect anything for it. As in Stickman's excellent post of some weeks ago, a guy paying 2000 baht ST plus a 600 baht bar fine, plus a lady drink or two plus his own drinks, plus a ST hotel room (because the girl has given him a million excuses as to why she isn't going to his hotel) and all this coupled with the fact that in his allotted hour, there are 4 showers, the dressing and undressing, which basically leaves you with wham bam thank you Noi. And is it really worth it then to fly X. 0000 miles for that? Having lived and mongered here for over a decade I would say that if anything, the girls are getting more and more used to getting away with not doing much other than reciting a script. Ap nam, don't kiss me here or there, jakajee, hurry up. And this behavior continues precisely because men continue to pay them for such service.
No, the majority of the girls in the trade today are not butchering chickens or growing rice, they are far far far too lazy to do that. They have long traded that for the preferred life of sleeping and doing as little as possible as long as the cash flows in.
Nobody here is talking anything whatsoever about not paying girls, we are talking about a business transaction. You know it and the girls know it. If you tell me that your menu has chocolate ice cream with cake on it and that is what I order, that is what I expect to get. Usually, in the case of a restaurant not delivering the goods, well a smart manager comes out and gives the patron a dish on the house, to dissipate any bad feelings and to try to win his business back again. If not, you can pretty damn well guarantee the customer isn't coming back again.
What I find interesting is that quite a good number of these girls fully know what they are doing, and when you call them on it, they actually will acknowledge it. I have had a few girls over the years who came home and didn't provide service, whom I immediately kicked out of the room with taxi fare to go back where she came from. Several days later, I saw the same girl in the same place and she saw me and recognized me, and most hysterically, I took her friend home. The first girl never once told her friend that I wouldn't pay or that I was a bad man, and my experience with the friend was actually a good one. The girl knew she'd tried to pull one, couldn't get away with it, and slunk away with her tail between her legs.
Remember man, you are engaged in a business transaction, not in some bleeding heart poverty tale or play the knight in shining armor role. The girls know fully well what is expected of them. Try going to a Thai fishbowl place and having a girl who doesn't perform. You call the papasan and within 2 minutes he will get you another girl, and believe me, the non performer will be getting an earful as well.
Has anyone had trouble with the search function in the forum?
I miss the old format.
I typed in Dr BJ and nothing in Thailand came up in the results. ?
We used to be able to direct the search to a specific thread - such as "Thailand" or "Bangkok", but not anymore.
Am I doing something wrong?
[QUOTE=NoCBJ4Me; 1352433]I typed in Dr BJ and nothing in Thailand came up in the results. ?
We used to be able to direct the search to a specific thread. Such as "Thailand" or "Bangkok", but not anymore.
Am I doing something wrong?[/QUOTE]1. Go to Advanced Search.
2. Search Single Content.
3. Type into Keywords "DrBJ"
4. In Additional Options select the Thailand forum
5. Select search results form to be Reports
6. Hit Search
Thanks Natty.
Can you or anyone tell me if the forum settings can be set so that they can be read in order while scrolling down instead of having to search the threads for the last one I read and scrolling up to read in order?
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470;1352313]I am delighted to see that there are some sensible ladies who rightly insist on a condom. I wish all mongers were as sensible given the prospect of catching STIs and more.[/QUOTE]Personally I do not like CBJ. Whilst it is true you "may" contract a STI from BBBJ it is only gonorrhea and chlamydia, to the best of my knowledge. In the time I have lived here and previous visits I have only encountered 1 lady who insisted on CBJ. I had no hesitation in allowing this to proceed as this particular aspect of the deal had not been agreed upon prior to the session. I wouldn't class the CBJ as a huge disappointment but it was no where as enjoyable as BBBJ. Incidentally I have never caught an STI in all the BBBJ's I have enjoyed. If the lady is carrying gonorrhea there are several tell-tale signs to indicate this. I was once approached by a SW and like a medieval village I could smell her before I actually set eyes on her, needless to say I declined her advances.
Regards.
BJ
[QUOTE=NoCBJ4Me; 1352518]Thanks Natty.
Can you or anyone tell me if the forum settings can be set so that they can be read in order while scrolling down instead of having to search the threads for the last one I read and scrolling up to read in order?[/QUOTE]It can, just go in your personal settings once you are logged in.