Please confirm if it is true that the new price is 100 E /30 minutes.
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Please confirm if it is true that the new price is 100 E /30 minutes.
[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2272866]Please confirm if it is true that the new price is 100 E /30 minutes.[/QUOTE]As has been discussed ad nauseum, there is no single price. No matter what you are selling, you will make the most money if you charge the maximum price each particular buyer is willing to pay.
So the girls will fire the max price st the target and if the guy takes it, then off you go. Some guys will take it (and guys who pay a lot for P4 P elsewhere are most likely) or there will be a negotiation.
In a negotiation, if you can't walk then you can't move price much. So if you have narrow tastes and not much time you will pay mor than someone with broader tastes or who is willing to spend a lot of time trying to maximize his 50€.
The advice on trying to gain more time for the same price versus trying to pay less is a good strategy even with narrow tastes and time. Often the girl is after the dollar amount more so than the minutes per se. So this is one lever you have.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2272874]As has been discussed ad nauseum, there is no single price. No matter what you are selling, you will make the most money if you charge the maximum price each particular buyer is willing to pay.
So the girls will fire the max price st the target and if the guy takes it, then off you go. Some guys will take it (and guys who pay a lot for P4 P elsewhere are most likely) or there will be a negotiation.
In a negotiation, if you can't walk then you can't move price much. So if you have narrow tastes and not much time you will pay mor than someone with broader tastes or who is willing to spend a lot of time trying to maximize his 50.
The advice on trying to gain more time for the same price versus trying to pay less is a good strategy even with narrow tastes and time. Often the girl is after the dollar amount more so than the minutes per se. So this is one lever you have.[/QUOTE]Totally understood that the girls who are in demand will try to milk the maximum. Until last year, 50 E /30 and 100 E / HR was pretty standard for DATY, DFK, BBBJ. Now the concern is that after paying 65 E entry and 100 E /30 is standard for most of girls, then the trip to sharks is less lucrative for USA mongers.
[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2272842]Price for tourists or for guys who don't want to negotiate and if necessary walk away. Many intercontinental visitors (Japanese / Koreans / North Americans) happy to pay this price because their trips to FKK-Land are infrequent and because the price of pussy is so expensive in their home country. Euro 100 for 30 minutes seems good value to them. Many girls initially look for Euro 100 for 30 minutes but many are still happy to get Euro 100 for 1 hour. In other words if the customer indicates that he will probably stay one hour (all going well) the girl will be happy with Euro 100. Up to him then if he stays the full 60 minutes or stays for just 31 minutes. He pays Euro 100 and is no worse off. Certainly no worse off than the Euro 100 for 30 minute offer. Inevitably the practice will lead to a situation where every 30 minutes is charged at Euro 100 per half hour (i.e. two hours in the zimmer with a hooker will cost Euro 400). Prices will move to similar as Switzerland (4 hours drive south). Just a matter of time and probably not too far away.
Not sure I would be writing reports here bragging about paying this surcharge! But I guess better we hear the truth about what is actually happening in the clubs.[/QUOTE]Grocery negotiation is just killing desire. On my last visits on week end days, most of girls seemed to have quite slow business, but if they want to become like at Oase when can read sometimes less clients than girls at Oase, and most at Sharks are not on same level for look and level in bed, than in Switzerland.
[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2272886]Now the concern is that after paying 65 E entry and 100 E /30 is standard for most of girls, then the trip to sharks is less lucrative for USA mongers.[/QUOTE]Well, yes. But no need to worry for the girls. The asian mongers will take over, in large numbers!
IMHO, in these days a clear indication for the ongoing weakening of the importance of the former empire called USA. Fore sure on the eurasian continent.
The best strategy is to do what others have already suggested: go for one hour and 100 Euro. If the girl then asks for extra money for kissing or BBBJ, forget about her.
So much of the perception of cost depends on if you are a price per fuck kind of guy or a price per hour of overall experience kind of guy. What I mean by this is that incall / outcall and even the brothel parade format the two are nearly equal. There is very little to experience outside the room. In room time almost equals total time. And if you are there only for in room time then the FKK is only at best a fair value.
There are others (like me) who value the overall experience time. Last FKK I was at I think I had 3. 5 hours of in room time and something like 7 hours of total clock time. When I do the €/ experience-HR calculation FKK is a STILL a great value (Thailand somewhat cheaper) even at monopolies like Artemis.
There isn't much difference between 50 e and 100 e. If you go to have fun and travel all the way from North America or Asia, you should have budget. I'm sorry for the local that tourist like me are willing to pay the fees but if you ain't got the money you ain't suppose to go to FKK. The girls tend to be more comfortable when you give them that little extra 50 e for the 1 hour time. If she ain't happy about it, totally skip her.
Don't be cheap if you want a good experience. All these girls will give you so much more after you give them what they want in money. Better have 1 great hour experience than two shitty rooms. Quality time is much more enjoyable.
[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2272866]Please confirm if it is true that the new price is 100 E /30 minutes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Toto001;2272830]Hi guys, Just wanted to ask if any of you lately had some experience with girls asking for regular money to be send to a girl from Sharks in order for her to be able to stay at home in Romania because she just can't stand the job anymore. I actually had been repeatedly contacted by a girl through whattsapp. She has been at Sharks until recently and beginning of this year went back to Romania. I did not send any of course.[/QUOTE]These clubs are full of men and women with great stories and heartbreaking fairytales. Mainly of men who like to signal / tell women that they are successful, but feel lonely and they don't know what to do with their tons of money. And women who like to signal to / tell men that they have problems, kids and families, and do not know what to do because they suffer from ambulant (or permanent lack) of money.
Both are looking for some sort of help with regards to bring money into circulation. And since fate is working as a facilitator, the best place to discuss those topics is a brothel in Germany, of course (could be any brothel in Germany).
Men and women can ask others for whatever they want. That is their good right. But it is our responsibility to decide, if we feel any obligation to respond to the needs of others, and in which form.
In many cases, this one word is sort of instant healing, when outspoken loud and clear: "NO!" The curtain of illusions and love-delusion will be torn apart instantaneously!
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2272897]Well, yes. But no need to worry for the girls. The asian mongers will take over, in large numbers!
IMHO, in these days a clear indication for the ongoing weakening of the importance of the former empire called USA. Fore sure on the eurasian continent.
The best strategy is to do what others have already suggested: go for one hour and 100 Euro. If the girl then asks for extra money for kissing or BBBJ, forget about her.[/QUOTE]Currently yes, but the interest war the fed is waging is bound to cause a financial crisis. Most likely in 2019. Possibly as late as 2020. The front runner of which part of the economy will crumble the most and hardest is the Chinese housing bubble. So lets see where this play will end.
[QUOTE=LiveBoarding;2272983]There isn't much difference between 50 e and 100 e. If you go to have fun and travel all the way from North America or Asia, you should have budget. I'm sorry for the local that tourist like me are willing to pay the fees but if you ain't got the money you ain't suppose to go to FKK. The girls tend to be more comfortable when you give them that little extra 50 e for the 1 hour time. If she ain't happy about it, totally skip her.
Don't be cheap if you want a good experience. All these girls will give you so much more after you give them what they want in money. Better have 1 great hour experience than two shitty rooms. Quality time is much more enjoyable.[/QUOTE]True, on a budget at 3000 euro, upgrading one session from 50 to 100 is not a big difference. New total sum is 3050 euro.
But that initial 3000 euro budget would already comprise of 1500 euro spent on girls, and 1500 euro spent on flights, accommodations, rental car and club entry costs. So given a base price of 50 e a session, that is 30 times in a room. Say you do this on a 10 day scheduel. At 100 euro a session instead, your new budget is at 4500 euro. Quite a bit for 10 days. Now of course you may be old and have a broken cock. In that case 1,5 sessions in average per day might be fine. So you can cut down your number of sessions to 15 instead of 30, and keep your initial budget. I do 15 session in 4 days sometimes. So for me this would seem crazy. A 4 day trip intercontinentally is something I also wouldn't do. I have done a 5 day trip to Macau once, but then I had won too much on the casino and didn't want to loose the exchange rate changing out of Hong Kong dollar. So the trip was mainly to waste my 27 000 hkd. I got up to 70 000, but then lost 60 000 when the casino operator found me out and cheated on me. So I spent the last 10 k on girls and gave Sheldon adelstein the middle finger!
[QUOTE=LiveBoarding;2272983]There isn't much difference between 50 e and 100 e. If you go to have fun and travel all the way from North America or Asia, you should have budget. I'm sorry for the local that tourist like me are willing to pay the fees but if you ain't got the money you ain't suppose to go to FKK. The girls tend to be more comfortable when you give them that little extra 50 e for the 1 hour time. If she ain't happy about it, totally skip her.
Don't be cheap if you want a good experience. All these girls will give you so much more after you give them what they want in money. Better have 1 great hour experience than two shitty rooms. Quality time is much more enjoyable.[/QUOTE]In that case, why don't you just stay in your home country instead of fucking up what the German locals built. You and your countrymen already fucked up the pay for sex scenes in your home countries, now you want to screw up someone else's country? Do you even see how selfish stupid and self-destructive that is? Why can't you knuckle heads follow the simple principle of "do in Rome as Romans do"? Is it too difficult? Or just go to Romania with your loads of cash and see how you do without the help of the German FKK system.
[QUOTE=LiveBoarding;2272983]There isn't much difference between 50 e and 100 e.[/QUOTE]You're right, that's just a 1 to 2 ratio, nothing to brag about. What will you do when your landlord will double your rent, or when the governement will double your taxes?
[QUOTE]t if you ain't got the money you ain't suppose to go to FKK. [/QUOTE]You know, some people have the money for 50 € sessions but not for 100 € sessions.
I really hope that all the big-money-gang stays in Hesse!
[QUOTE=LaBambaBoy;2272617]Overall damage about 300+50 in tips + 65 entry == 415. Worth twice that. Simple awesome.[/QUOTE]Interesting that you already paid double the rate and say it's easily worth double what you paid. For the service you received, I would have walked out the door at €215. If the ladies didn't agree at that rate I would have walked away to one who did. I stay longer than 30 minutes with some ladies but I never pay more than €50/30 minutes.
For the person who said, if you don't have €100/30 minutes you shouldn't come to the FKK / Sauna Club, I say maybe you should come once or twice a week for a year and learn how to budget.
[QUOTE=Gino02;2272996]In that case, why don't you just stay in your home country instead of fucking up what the German locals built. You and your countrymen already fucked up the pay for sex scenes in your home countries, now you want to screw up someone else's country? Do you even see how selfish stupid and self-destructive that is? Why can't you knuckle heads follow the simple principle of "do in Rome as Romans do"? Is it too difficult? Or just go to Romania with your loads of cash and see how you do without the help of the German FKK system.[/QUOTE]Are you auditioning for Germany's Trump? As in "we don't want — those people — in our country (FKK)". LOL.
[QUOTE=Gino02;2272996]In that case, why don't you just stay in your home country instead of fucking up what the German locals built. You and your countrymen already fucked up the pay for sex scenes in your home countries, now you want to screw up someone else's country? Do you even see how selfish stupid and self-destructive that is? Why can't you knuckle heads follow the simple principle of "do in Rome as Romans do"? Is it too difficult? Or just go to Romania with your loads of cash and see how you do without the help of the German FKK system.[/QUOTE]To be fair, he's not saying to over pay. He said to make them happy by giving them the 100 e for 1 hour which [B]is[/B] what the Germans built. He even said to skip her if she's not happy with that club rate.
No one should ever feel bad or made to feel bad for paying the club rate. And there is no obligation to succumb to the guys who insist that you only do 30 min rooms.