FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

LOL. Yes, I paid 100 430 three times on Friday night, but that is not normal for me. Hell, on this trip I paid 40 for 30 AO at Dietz twice, so. Can't say I am not fiscally responsible. And on Tuesday I had a lovely session with Lara at Sharks at the standard 50 for 30 (which included BBBJ, even though I didn't ask for it).

In 2 of the 3 cases last night, I had spent at least 15 minutes up front connecting with the girls; I knew we had chemistry, and that they were interesting to talk too. In that case, going 100 for 30 was calculated to get me a better experience. And it did pay off; I got a fun, sexy session with lots of joking, and fun cuddling after. All three sessions went more than 30 minutes in the room.

In the case of German Lara, I walked up, kissed her on the cheek, and told her I wanted to lick her pussy, 100 for 30. She really turns my crank, and I considered buying a much longer session. Kinda wish I had.

In all three cases, I wanted more than a bang-bang session, something very GFE. In this case, in each case it worked. First time that ever happened for me, usually I screw up and misread at least one girl a night. I gambled I'd get a better session for my money, and it worked out. Sometimes I have gone and done a string of 50 for 30 sessions, just pounding girls, and that can be fun too. Honestly, some of the girls prefer that. Plenty of girls available for 50 for 30, a good number of them will do BBBJ for that price, DATY is harder to find, but still doable.

I guess I am sympathetic if you struggle to put together the money; 50 for 30 is what you have to look for and some of the girls may not go for it. I am not sympathetic if you want a guarantee to get whatever you want (short of anal) from any girl in the club for a guaranteed 50 for 30. If you want to shade the odds, go to a smaller club perhaps? Or tour the RLD, where delight can be had very cheaply indeed, and you get the thrill of the hunt coupled with exercise.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2273024]Are you auditioning for Germany's Trump? As in "we don't want those people in our country (FKK)". LOL.[/QUOTE]Don't worry. The Mexicans will pay for the walls to be built around every FKK to keep high-paying Americans and Asians out!

[QUOTE=Gino02;2272996]In that case, why don't you just stay in your home country instead of fucking up what the German locals built. You and your countrymen already fucked up the pay for sex scenes in your home countries, now you want to screw up someone else's country? Do you even see how selfish stupid and self-destructive that is? Why can't you knuckle heads follow the simple principle of "do in Rome as Romans do"? Is it too difficult? Or just go to Romania with your loads of cash and see how you do without the help of the German FKK system.[/QUOTE]Germany is really clever about quite well organized and safe, paid sex clubs, but if girls just had German guys business, with many going just to drink or eat or sauna, girls would die from starvation. Just stay at Sharks after midnight and count how many Germans, when more Turkish, Afghans, Arabs, Albanians. Fortunately for girls business, they have tourists, when some girls tell about 400 € made on average per day and have to pay 125 to work and sleep. Real woman type in bed with so lovely behavior, Debi, I m sure one of the highest level at Sharks, not the faintest upselling, but she usually gets quite slow business and she looks like a real woman, not ugly at all.

So I can understand girls welcome tourists, to survive, but they may have different rate. When Asians see a blond, or Americans see a slim without silicon nor tattoo nor botox, they just run, agree to overpay and tip. I met at Globe a french 23 yo guy who overpaid girls because he thought they would remember and return to him, but after he didn't have enough money to go with prettier girls I showed him.

Best tip smart girls think, is to return many times with them.

[QUOTE=LaBambaBoy;2272617] Same deal, 100 for 30, DATY / BBBJ. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Turgid;2272836]Is 100 Euros for 30 minutes the cost for standard service at Sharks now?[/QUOTE]LaBambaBoy is a typical tourist, just look at his previous posts. He doesn't care if he helps destroy the whole FKK scene in Germany, he'll just go elsewhere and help destroy it there.

[QUOTE=LaBambaBoy;2273038]I guess I am sympathetic if you struggle to put together the money; 50 for 30 is what you have to look for and some of the girls may not go for it. I am not sympathetic if you want a guarantee to get whatever you want (short of anal) from any girl in the club for a guaranteed 50 for 30. If you want to shade the odds, go to a smaller club perhaps? Or tour the RLD, where delight can be had very cheaply indeed, and you get the thrill of the hunt coupled with exercise.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry but what you have just written above makes about as much sense as Donald Trump!

Unfortunately all you have written in your "Price Defense" displays a complete lack of understanding and makes absolutely no sense.

You don't seem to have a clue about why some other members are chastising you on your behavior. Your thirty minutes of slap and tickle in the room with a hooker, whether that is for Euro 50 or Euro 100 is nickle and dime stuff and very basic mongering at that. Some of us will actually spend several hundred euros (maybe a thousand euro or more) on a days visit to an FKK and spend several hours in the room with these girls. We might book a girl for 2 or 3 consecutive hours or perhaps for the whole evening. Consequently the concern is that the price of every half hour will go from Euro 50 to Euro 100 and instead of paying Euro 200 for a two hour session or Euro 300 for a three hour session or Euro 600 if you book two girls for three hours, the cost could double to Euro 400 or Euro 600 or Euro 1,200. Thirty minutes of slap and tickle in the room for Euro 100 is potentially setting a precedent for the price for every half hour, not just for a quickie 30 minute session.

Most (if not all) of the girls you write about would probably have gone with you for Euro 100 for 60 minutes. They were very likely after the Euro amount and the time (30 minutes or 60 minutes) would have been less important. You could probably have booked these girls for the hour (for Euro 100) and left after 31 minutes had you wanted. Consequently you would have avoided setting any bad precedents and would have helped preserve the current German FKK/Sauna Club pricing system for both yourself and your fellow ISG Members.

I don't understand why guys like you don't go to Switzerland (instead of Germany) where the standard of girls in the Swiss FKK clubs is generally speaking much higher. Sure you will be paying Euro 100 (or more) for your 30 minute slap and tickle session but with generally speaking much hotter hookers. You don't seem to mind paying that anyway.

That's the thing though. You assume that I only do Germany and don't do my local service providers. As a monger, it is good to be able to taste what the world has to offer. Its not that I am ruining the German prices, its that I do offer to pay what the girls needs so both her and me don't go into a shitty situation of upsell. All these sessions that everyone is talking about is because you take on a girl for 30 minutes and of course the girl will try to upsell you everything she got. She needs to maximize her time. She's certainly not there for free.

But if you already set the rule that you'll do 100 e, then there is much less time spend on hassles and negotiating. You just do your thing with a clear mind and she can also have a clear mind that she is able to get what she needs. Both are satisfied and both are able to enjoy the time.

If you cheapen out on the girl most probably she'll cheapen out on your service. Then you are left with only the low level of probability to get a good session. I always get good session, from my perspective at the least, just because I abide to her financial requirements.

Ruining the german market would be more like giving money away as in mega tips or overpaying for nothing.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2272996]In that case, why don't you just stay in your home country instead of fucking up what the German locals built. You and your countrymen already fucked up the pay for sex scenes in your home countries, now you want to screw up someone else's country? Do you even see how selfish stupid and self-destructive that is? Why can't you knuckle heads follow the simple principle of "do in Rome as Romans do"? Is it too difficult? Or just go to Romania with your loads of cash and see how you do without the help of the German FKK system.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LiveBoarding;2273257]That's the thing though. You assume that I only do Germany and don't do my local service providers. As a monger, it is good to be able to taste what the world has to offer. Its not that I am ruining the German prices, its that I do offer to pay what the girls needs so both her and me don't go into a shitty situation of upsell.[/QUOTE]Why not book the girl for extra time as opposed to booking her for just 30 minutes! Give her Euro 100 for one hour or Euro 150 for ninety minutes! Up to you if you don't stay the full time. The girls are after the Euro amount and the time is far less important. Most will readily agree to 60 minutes for Euro 100. I can also guarantee that the hookers wont complain if you book for 60 minutes (for Euro 100) and leave after 31 minutes or book for 90 minutes (for Euro 150) and leave after 61 minutes. By doing this you preserve the German FKK/Sauna Club pricing system as it exists today. Why not preserve the pricing system for yourself, your fellow ISG Members and all the guys in Germany?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2272996]In that case, why don't you just stay in your home country instead of fucking up what the German locals built..[/QUOTE][QUOTE=LaBambaBoy;2273038]LOL. Yes, I paid 100 4(sic) 30 three times on Friday night, [/QUOTE][QUOTE=LiveBoarding;227298]you ain't got the money you ain't suppose to go to FKK. The girls tend to be more comfortable when you give them that little extra 50 e for the 1 hour time. If she ain't happy about it, totally skip her.[/QUOTE]Gina and others.

LaBamba is the type of guy you need to be telling to stay home because he is the one who is actively screwing up the system. He's the double payer.

I share Liveboarding's mentality in that it is worth it for me to commit to a one hour room and pay her the 100 e she wants, assuming I get the service I want in that hour. Not for every room but for visits to certain clubs with girls who one hour would be well spent. Cheap charlies can't be angry with that.

In LaBamba's case, he's not even trying to get what he paid for; [B]that is[/B] the type of visitor who is ruining the scene.

If paying 100 e, why not offer her the one hour? Why not get a massage to make it an hour? Or have her blow you for a little longer? Or play with her titties for a while. This way, you still get to have a good time at a fair price; the girls gets what she wants; and you both can have it all without pissing everyone off.

In the new year, a couple of days ago, I had a conversation with a girl at Sharks. She was there for her first day, but she has been to other clubs before. In the course of that conversation I mentioned that many girls here at Sharks like to go with Asians, they even hunt for the Asians. She said, it is the same in all of the clubs: it is easy work, in the room, the asians cum pretty soon and they are willing to pay a lot of money.

Has often been observed and described already many times: Tourism itself tends to destroy what it pretends to love.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2273281]Has often been observed and described already many times: Tourism itself tends to destroy what it pretends to love.[/QUOTE]Very wise words indeed Nick!

Unfortunately a lot of the guys here who are doing the destroying seem to be big Donald Trump supporters! They don't particularly care about anyone else and they certainly don't make much sense! :D

Again, many thanks for the wise words.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2273166]Don't worry. The Mexicans will pay for the walls to be built around every FKK to keep high-paying Americans and Asians out![/QUOTE]Yes, and then the next President, hopefully one that has a brain larger than a walnut, can declare in a loud clear voice: " Tear down that wall!" And then the tired and (sex) hungry hoardes shall once again be free to pour through the FKK Gates to Paradise, tipping and overpaying to their heart's content.

[QUOTE=Toto001;2272830]Hi guys,

Just wanted to ask if any of you lately had some experience with girls asking for regular money to be send to a girl from Sharks in order for her to be able to stay at home in Romania because she just can't stand the job anymore.

I actually had been repeatedly contacted by a girl through whattsapp. She has been at Sharks until recently and beginning of this year went back to Romania.

I did not send any of course. Just wanted to check with others if this is some habit which now also spreads to Sharks. Certainly it had been reported from other clubs before. Romanian girls are quite seductive. Sometimes they ask for some money to be able to fly back to the club after winter holiday and argue that they would work it off after they returned, when in fact they already know they would go to another club in another country anyhow.[/QUOTE]I would send a clear and loud "No". One of my regulars at Sharks once asked me for a small amount of money, but I declined and I decided not to see her anymore after that. I believe she is not at Sharks anymore, maybe she's at Palace now, I don't know and I don't care. They may start with small request just to test the waters and then they escalate to bigger amounts. Keep in mind that most of FKK girls are poorly educated and ruthless and they would be on the streets begging if they weren't having sex for money. So, do not ever send money to these girls.

Rock.

These overpaying fools don't even understand how they are doing something self-destructive by getting into the traps of these equally fool WGs. If they have a little bit gray matter in their brains to just think thrrough why the mongering field is so bad in their home countries both for the customers and the service providers, and why they travel all the way to Germany (or Austria or Switzerland), they would understand why the German (and Austrian and Swiss) system works. It would have been so much nicer if instead of destroying these good systems they travel all the way to take advantage of, they had focused on how to improve the systems in their home countries.

Can we turn down the hyperbole already? Unless you guys are also criticizing guys who opt for 100 euro for 1 hour, literally only one guy (LaBamba) endorsed overpaying. Despite that fact, a half dozen other guys here got their panties riled up.

Speaking of Trump, Mob mentality and scapegoating like the kind you guys are showing is how people like Trump and Hitler came into power.

Blame the Mexicans! Blame the Jews! Now, blame the Americans and Asians!

What I find a little ironic is that the criticism of sex tourism from some is coming on a board called [B]international[/B] sex guide. There are German boards for you proud locals aren't there?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2273389]These overpaying fools don't even understand how they are doing something self-destructive by getting into the traps of these equally fool WGs. If they have a little bit gray matter in their brains to just think thrrough why the mongering field is so bad in their home countries both for the customers and the service providers, and why they travel all the way to Germany (or Austria or Switzerland), they would understand why the German (and Austrian and Swiss) system works. It would have been so much nicer if instead of destroying these good systems they travel all the way to take advantage of, they had focused on how to improve the systems in their home countries.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gino02;2273389]These overpaying fools don't even understand how they are doing something self-destructive by getting into the traps of these equally fool WGs. If they have a little bit gray matter in their brains to just think thrrough why the mongering field is so bad in their home countries both for the customers and the service providers, and why they travel all the way to Germany (or Austria or Switzerland), they would understand why the German (and Austrian and Swiss) system works. It would have been so much nicer if instead of destroying these good systems they travel all the way to take advantage of, they had focused on how to improve the systems in their home countries.[/QUOTE]It is your opinion but in reality it doesn't work, are you aware of the percentage of free girls, probably around 20%, you can not completely forget that the offer can create the demand which is the case in the mentioned countries. So many guys are spending a lot of money in the clubs, would it not be better that they spend that money with the family or relatives, or simply doing other things than spending day and nights in clubs.