FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2273876]Many mongers have went to Globe, and returned back to FKK in Germany, without looking back. So either they found optics to be similar to Germany or only marginally better than Germany. In other words, they concluded that you can have a "9" in Germany. Or go to Globe and find a "9.5" and pay double the price. Not to mention pay double the prices for food, lodging, and transportation.[/QUOTE]Globe and Zurich are less than 1 hour driving from French or German borders, so only have to pay Swiss motorway pass = 40 CHF for the year.

About looks, must be blind not to see the difference, when castings are so average in Germany at the moment, I would be happy to find a new Megan in Germany. About level in bed, I'm often surprised how girls behave with me, but also in Germany. On my last visit, German superstar stayed with me, having diner, until 9 pm, when we finished shower together at 5.30 pm. Maybe she wished I would repeat like on our discovery on end of September.

Megan is more a sweet girl than a warrior, Aurelia had problems with Sharks management, Isabella had problems with Germans in Hessen, but they work at Globe for many years, and I never heard them telling they want to return to Germany to be fucked for 50.

So many FKK land legends, some many telling without knowing anything. I had great visits at Globe for 375 CHF = 335 €, when on my weekly visits at LR I spent 360 €.

Globe "widely acknowledged as a top experience". For Globe, substitute World, Oase, Sharks, at varying times in their histories.

Like others here I find it hard to understand following the crowd. The chances are that by the time a place is widely recognised as "top", it has been ruined, often by greedy girls and clueless or intentionally overpaying customers following a trend, as Horny Harry suggests

That's just the way I see it. I do realise that a new visitor has to start somewhere, and that a hyped club may be the simplest way. My first FKK visit was to the most hyped club if the time (mind you, there were only two clubs then as far as I know).

Like Takedown, I always chat to customers about prices, and feel sorry that politeness and / or ignorance can lead to them being exploited by Precious Princesses. But in many clubs the girls do not do this and in all clubs some girls do not do this (see a recent Oase report).

For clarity, I am not talking here about Steve, who is quite reasonably exploring. I am making the general point about trends and pricing, which is relevant to Sharks.In my opinion

As for Germany vs Globe, quite a few girls go to Globe but return to Germany after unhappy experiences in Switzerland. They say they make good money there (but costs are higher) but the working rules were too onerous. Just what a handful of super good looking girls have told me over the years

[QUOTE=Pistons;2273882]Lastly there is the rule of money in the total pie. Mongering money spent in Switzerland is a total pie most likely constant due to the high starting price.[/QUOTE]

Most mongers will value shop and probably supplement any Zurich mongering with German expeditions. Exceptions of those that would willing accept the high-starting price of Zurich would be (1) married Swiss mongers who have family commitments, and thus must stay local and (2) extremely wealthy Swiss mongers who value convenience over price.

We do not know the demand curves. At 50 €, a WG may get 10 clients, yielding minimum 500 €. At 120 €, she may only get four clients, yielding minimum 480 €. At higher price points, less "units" are sold. Exception being the Apple iPhone. Most WGs will simply not be able to sell if priced at 120 €, when you can find WGs of comparable quality at 40 percent of the price just a few hours north. There are exceptions of course.

The WG priced cheaper probably experiences less friction, when it comes time for the customer to decide if he wants to extend the room. Extending an additional 30 minutes costs just 50 € in Germany, so most mongers won't think twice about extending time if the WG delivers as promises. In other words, these mongers go into the room with the intention of staying 60 minutes, but end up doing 3 hours. At the higher price point of 120 €, these same mongers might just limit themselves to a maximum of 30 minutes or 60 minutes. Using Siri's below post as a reference, his budget for a cheaper club was 360 €, but when he went to the more expensive Globe, he spent only 335 €. But like, he likes to say quality over quantity.

For those mongers that truly believe that Globe is a vastly superior option, they may just use Globe as an opportunity to splurge for special occasions, but then devote the majority of their mongering expeditions to Germany. This is no different than people who spend 300 € for a dinner at a Michelin-starred restaurant once or twice a year (I. E. Birthday or anniversary), but have a favorite restaurant, where they spend 60 €, once every week.

Long story short, I do not think a WG can just look at the high base starting rate at Zurich as the basis for her decision. It assumes, she will be as "busy" in Zurich as she was in Frankfurt, which is not a guarantee. As others said, expenses need to be taken into consideration. Also stress levels. If someone offered to double my salary, but told me that that my stress level would increase by 25 percent, I would not accept the offer.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2274301]The girl priced cheaper probably experiences less friction, [/QUOTE]Friction. Yeah, a lot less tread left on those tires after doing so many rooms. Hehe.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2274011]About looks, must be blind not to see the difference, when castings are so average in Germany at the moment.[/QUOTE]Full disclosure, I have never mongered in Zurich. But I have spoken to at least 20 mongers who have. Some thought Zurich casting was about the same as Germany. Some thought Zurich casting was only a little bit better than Germany. But majority stated that they have no reason to return to Zurich. I believe that YOU consider the casting in Zurich is much, much, much better than Germany. I am not calling you a liar. But when doing a survey for research, you speak to more than one person.

Even if I had mongered in Zurich before, I would emphasize the conclusions of the consensus, rather than my own, because I think optics and sometimes even service is subjective. Also, I am recognized as regular at several FKK clubs. Sometimes that can motivate a WG to give me better service. Sometimes that can mean a WG dislikes me, and I get shit service. Either way, my experience will be unique. So I think the average experience and the impressions of the other twenty people is more valuable than my own.

Of course, I do know Megan and Aurelia from their Sharks days. I never sessioned either, though I considered them a few times, simply because the price was only 50 €. At the higher price of Globe, I have zero interest. Megan and Aurelia were not the busiest when they were at Sharks. Did they improve both their looks and service after they went to Globe?

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2274307]Full disclosure, I have never mongered in Zurich. But I have spoken to at least 20 mongers who have. Some thought Zurich casting was about the same as Germany. Some thought Zurich casting was only a little bit better than Germany. But majority stated that they have no reason to return to Zurich. I believe that YOU consider the casting in Zurich is much, much, much better than Germany. I am not calling you a liar. But when doing a survey for research, you speak to more than one person.

Even if I had mongered in Zurich before, I would emphasize the conclusions of the consensus, rather than my own, because I think optics and sometimes even service is subjective. Also, I am recognized as regular at several FKK clubs. Sometimes that can motivate a WG to give me better service. Sometimes that can mean a WG dislikes me, and I get shit service. Either way, my experience will be unique. So I think the average experience and the impressions of the other twenty people is more valuable than my own.

Of course, I do know Megan and Aurelia from their Sharks days. I never sessioned either, though I considered them a few times, simply because the price was only 50 . At the higher price of Globe, I have zero interest. Megan and Aurelia were not the busiest when they were at Sharks. Did they improve both their looks and service after they went to Globe?[/QUOTE]I agree with Siri on the quality of Globe much much better than Sharks, as of my trip in early December 2018. I spent a whole Wednesday starting about noon till 4 am in Sharks with 1200e in my locker to spend, but didn't see any girl I would fuck even if she paid me, they were all so GND without real beauties! Then I drove to Globe, and bingo, I landed in heaven full of at least 20 beautiful girls to my liking of optics, service and behaviour of the girls, zero upselling. Except for one shitty session with Megan, Globe was way better for me for rest of the 4 sessions. Sharks didn't even have any chance to compete with all those 100+ GND girls they had. For those who remember Atlantis in Altenstadt, I think we can say Globe is the new Atlantis, obviously 2. 4 times expensive being in Switzerland.

Auerila improved significantly in my experience. And you can now fuck her in public anywhere in the club, including right at the main bar area, if that's your thing. She definitely enjoys all the attention of the public sex LOL. I would not touch Megan again, even with a 10 feet pole, she's that bad in my experience.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2274318]I agree with Siri on the quality of Globe much much better than Sharks, as of my trip in early December 2018. I spent a whole Wednesday starting about noon till 4 am in Sharks with 1200e in my locker to spend, but didn't see any girl I would fuck even if she paid me, they were all so GND without real beauties! Then I drove to Globe, and bingo, I landed in heaven full of at least 20 beautiful girls to my liking of optics, service and behaviour of the girls, zero upselling. Except for one shitty session with Megan, Globe was way better for me for rest of the 4 sessions. Sharks didn't even have any chance to compete with all those 100+ GND girls they had. For those who remember Atlantis in Altenstadt, I think we can say Globe is the new Atlantis, obviously 2. 4 times expensive being in Switzerland.

Auerila improved significantly in my experience. And you can now fuck her in public anywhere in the club, including right at the main bar area, if that's your thing. She definitely enjoys all the attention of the public sex LOL. I would not touch Megan again, even with a 10 feet pole, she's that bad in my experience.[/QUOTE]I agree with you about Shark LU for high demanding guys some days in summer when you can really see the girls under the sun shine I also left the club without any session just 0 beautiful girl, many girls have skin issues, silicon, botox, no real natural beauty only, fake one. Nut this is true is all the clubs in Germany, very few fresh and young girls are entering the scene.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2274318]I agree with Siri on the quality of Globe much much better than Sharks, as of my trip in early December 2018. I spent a whole Wednesday starting about noon till 4 am in Sharks with 1200e in my locker to spend, but didn't see any girl I would fuck even if she paid me, they were all so GND[/QUOTE]Really, even I they paid you? I was at Sharks in October and had a different experience. There were so many GND, I and the Traditional meaning of the term in accordance with intention of Gallery magazine or the definition in Dictioary dot com, "The girl next door is a term used to describe a female archetype and fashion aesthetic which can range in terms of personal definition, but usually denotes a girl or woman who appeals to traditional or "all-American" gender norms with the allure of purity, simplicity, and charm, with a natural, modest, or effortless beauty".

[QUOTE=Gino02;2274318]I agree with Siri on the quality of Globe much much better than Sharks, as of my trip in early December 2018. I spent a whole Wednesday starting about noon till 4 am in Sharks with 1200e in my locker to spend, but didn't see any girl I would fuck even if she paid me, they were all so GND without real beauties! Then I drove to Globe, and bingo, I landed in heaven full of at least 20 beautiful girls to my liking of optics, service and behaviour of the girls, zero upselling. Except for one shitty session with Megan, Globe was way better for me for rest of the 4 sessions. Sharks didn't even have any chance to compete with all those 100+ GND girls they had. For those who remember Atlantis in Altenstadt, I think we can say Globe is the new Atlantis, obviously 2. 4 times expensive being in Switzerland.

Auerila improved significantly in my experience. And you can now fuck her in public anywhere in the club, including right at the main bar area, if that's your thing. She definitely enjoys all the attention of the public sex LOL. I would not touch Megan again, even with a 10 feet pole, she's that bad in my experience.[/QUOTE]Sad report about Sharks, for a Wednesday which is one of the best casting day with Friday and I was on Friday 30 November, thinking girls want to make money for Christmas at this time, so full casting. I didn't have 1200 €, I don't even spend this at Globe and I won't spend for my Aphrodisia discovery where 1 hour is 450 €, but had unfortunately same disappointing experience: only Tia woke me up, but her no kissing killed my desire, no other spark despite smiling Leoni or lovely Cleo or Debi, so I moved to Palace for a magic Venezuelan night on Globe rate, but I prefer to pay more expensive for higher quality and I didn't regret my money with her, when I don't want to pay 50 for GND I would not go with for free in real life.

Wow, crazy how some people are just praising Globe as the best etc.

I am from Zurich and a regular in Globe for many years. Honestly, those who are saying that Globe is like ascending to heaven: got to love the stuff you take.

Globe has much less girls and because of that they look out for more beauties. Despite that, I usually only see about 3-6 girls which I would like to spend time with it in Globe. In Sharks, they got tons of girls and more varieties and still, I usually also find about 3-6 girls I would spend time with. Globe has also more than enough so called GND and more than enough girls with silicone. The only two things that Globe usually differs to other clubs are (1) higher price and (2) a minimum standard of service you can expect. But the minimum standard isn't going to guarantee that you will like it or not. In Sharks or other clubs you can find plenty of girls who give you same service as in Globe for much less money.

I rather waste 50€ in Sharks than 140. - Swiss Francs in Globe. Just because you pay more in Globe doesn't mean you get better service than somewhere else. Megan is a good example: same service in Sharks for 50€ and same service in Globe for 140. -, there is no difference to her service in Sharks and Globe.

Personally, I prefer Sharks more than Globe because I can try more different girls and spend more time with them if I like the girl due lower price.

Hope that self-driving cars will soon become a standard. Then I can put my car on autodrive to Darmstadt - 4 hours drive for each way is really tedious.

[QUOTE=Ragna;2274670]Wow, crazy how some people are just praising Globe as the best etc.

I am from Zurich and a regular in Globe for many years. Honestly, those who are saying that Globe is like ascending to heaven: got to love the stuff you take.

Globe has much less girls and because of that they look out for more beauties. Despite that, I usually only see about 3-6 girls which I would like to spend time with it in Globe. In Sharks, they got tons of girls and more varieties and still, I usually also find about 3-6 girls I would spend time with. Globe has also more than enough so called GND and more than enough girls with silicone. The only two things that Globe usually differs to other clubs are (1) higher price and (2) a minimum standard of service you can expect. But the minimum standard isn't going to guarantee that you will like it or not. In Sharks or other clubs you can find plenty of girls who give you same service as in Globe for much less money.

I rather waste 50 in Sharks than 140. - Swiss Francs in Globe. Just because you pay more in Globe doesn't mean you get better service than somewhere else. Megan is a good example: same service in Sharks for 50 and same service in Globe for 140. -, there is no difference to her service in Sharks and Globe.

Personally, I prefer Sharks more than Globe because I can try more different girls and spend more time with them if I like the girl due lower price.

Hope that self-driving cars will soon become a standard. Then I can put my car on autodrive to Darmstadt - 4 hours drive for each way is really tedious.[/QUOTE]Did you find a elegant Kate, or a angel face Joana, at Sharks? No silicon, no tattoo, and I prefer to enjoy for 260 € than wasting 50 €, but each one own tastes of course, but I agree not all girls don't worth the rate at Globe.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2274494]Really, even I they paid you? I was at Sharks in October and had a different experience. There were so many GND, I and the Traditional meaning of the term in accordance with intention of Gallery magazine or the definition in Dictioary dot com, "The girl next door is a term used to describe a female archetype and fashion aesthetic which can range in terms of personal definition, but usually denotes a girl or woman who appeals to traditional or "all-American" gender norms with the allure of purity, simplicity, and charm, with a natural, modest, or effortless beauty".[/QUOTE]Sorry if I changed the original American meaning for Playboy playmates as the girl next door, but I don't see many playmates looks in brothels, for sure I would pay for. Even at Globe, I see many girls I don't desire, I would not desire in real life, and I don't want to pay for and would not even be interested for free, but at least at Globe, I most often find a girl I desire, and level in bed is on average higher than in Germany, when on my last visit on a Friday until 9 pm, I left Sharks where I couldn't find a girl I desire, even Debi and Cleo ex Globe, were lovely.

My own meaning for GND is average look, and I don't pay for this. At the moment, I really miss in Germany, pretty faces, elegance and charm, when I find a few at Globe.

Each one own subjective tastes of course.

Mac, in FKK land, I only believe what I see with my eyes, not stories I hear about, but I agree Globe rate don 't worth for stockings, but it worth for pretty face, elegance and feeling she loves you like a GF in bed, most often even under shower together after you paid. Had 6h30 for 550 € with the German superstar, including diner, not so expensive compare to Germany, and I always enjoy what girls give me for free.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2274307]Full disclosure, I have never mongered in Zurich. But I have spoken to at least 20 mongers who have. Some thought Zurich casting was about the same as Germany. Some thought Zurich casting was only a little bit better than Germany. But majority stated that they have no reason to return to Zurich. [/QUOTE]I decided I just had to try Globe last year. Alas I went on a night when it is voyeur night and guys can watch people have sex. And many wanted to. Until 9 pm when the rooms were no longer public sex. Here is my two cents. The line up is smaller than in German clubs but the overall quality is higher. Bear in mind I only did this once. The club is not special at all. Indeed not up to the standard of some German clubs. But what is absolutely clear is that for the much higher price the level of service is very significantly higher in Globe as Siri correctly reports. Zero upwelling for BBBJ and other services and the girls are very very keen to ensure you are 100% satisfied. I would return.

[QUOTE=Ragna;2274670]Wow, crazy how some people are just praising Globe as the best etc.

I am from Zurich and a regular in Globe for many years. Honestly, those who are saying that Globe is like ascending to heaven: got to love the stuff you take.

Globe has much less girls and because of that they look out for more beauties. Despite that, I usually only see about 3-6 girls which I would like to spend time with it in Globe. In Sharks, they got tons of girls and more varieties and still, I usually also find about 3-6 girls I would spend time with. Globe has also more than enough so called GND and more than enough girls with silicone. The only two things that Globe usually differs to other clubs are (1) higher price and (2) a minimum standard of service you can expect. But the minimum standard isn't going to guarantee that you will like it or not. In Sharks or other clubs you can find plenty of girls who give you same service as in Globe for much less money..[/QUOTE]Online with you what matters is the size of the LU, the more girls the more chance for me to find what I am looking for a fresh and young girl with natural beauty, usually there is not his type of girl in Palace, Artemis, have sometimes some in Shark, Oase or Samya but very hard to find in the last 2 years. Fortunately possible to find in escort agency or even easier with dating apps which was a surprise for me. I am afraid that with the strong economical development from the east part of Europe less and less girls will enter the job, on top of that the new law creates some stress on the girls.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2274751]I decided I just had to try Globe last year. Alas I went on a night when it is voyeur night and guys can watch people have sex. And many wanted to. Until 9 pm when the rooms were no longer public sex. Here is my two cents. The line up is smaller than in German clubs but the overall quality is higher. Bear in mind I only did this once. The club is not special at all. Indeed not up to the standard of some German clubs. But what is absolutely clear is that for the much higher price the level of service is very significantly higher in Globe as Siri correctly reports. Zero upwelling for BBBJ and other services and the girls are very very keen to ensure you are 100% satisfied. I would return.[/QUOTE]Voyeurs and public sex Tuesdays have small casting, some girls try to avoid. Not more than 55 girls from Thursday to Saturday which are best casting days, versus maybe sometimes 100 at Sharks and 60 at Oase, but not important for me because I won t fuck 10 girls on my day, I m only interested by the prettiest, and for a guy who loves women with elegant look, real body care, versus girls coming from deep country, walking on high heels for first time, look, eyes can smile at Globe when they cried from lack of elegant beauty on my last Sharks and Oase visits and of course I would prefer to pay only 100 to enjoy a beauty, when I find a spark top girl in Germany, I don t go to Globe, except for ski.

About girls level, for sure no upselling at Globe, girls would have big problem, for sure DFK and BBBJ and full time are very standard, but the most important for me is my girls behavior, not only in the room for high level but also outside, when busy superstars Kate, not Kate GT, or now Joana, my spark Romanian on whole Summer, behave when they see me.

Unfortunately, really bad point for me is to see them in public sex, but I really did appreciate Kate stopping with her client when she saw me, and also what Megan came to tell me.

I would say Globe worth for guys who love women, no need to go just to have sex, can have cheap sex to empty balls for 50 in Germany, but not what I look for and need. I prefer to pay for dreams.