Manila

It's going to be a pretty long message with a couple of questions. Its my first international trip and I'm very excited. I would ask my Filipino friends but it's a big taboo thing in the middle east with plenty of SPAs around with sureshot FS and we don't openly talk about it even though we all know what goes on inside.

General questions!!

Are freelancers okay with Condoms as I've read in the forum that you don't mention it until before the deed in the room and not during negotiation? Bareback is fine by me as I enjoy creampies but trying it with freelancers could be risky.

Do I carry condoms or would the girls have it? Usually I don't since they carry since the girls usually have it.

Do the girl offer anal and CIM or is that an extra? CIM is something I'm yet to try and would want to try that.

Where do I book for a Nuru Massage and does it entail Full service? Nuru Massages seem to be a big thing as per my reads about reports in this forum and is also something I would like to experience as it's not a thing here in Dubai.

From my research so far it seems like my best opportunity to experience all my kinks especially NURU.

As always I will be willing to reciprocate info about places in Dubai if any of y'all come. Just say you're from the Philippines Forum!

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2997694]Hi Dacos,

I'm not aware of too many massage places or spas who will offer full service.

Other guys may be able to assist.

If you want to sneak out for some day time action, I'd be inclined to pick up a freelancer and visit a Sogo hotel or similar short time lodging.

A lot of the freelancers around Makati will know to take you there.

If you're not fussy, you'll get a FL within five minutes on Burgos St. And they mingle around the 7/11..[/QUOTE]Hey PhilJoy.

Thanks for the reply. I've been browsing the net and yes unfortunately my option is going to be limited to freelancers.

It will be an experience I'm looking forward to since freelancers aren't an option I go for.

Just a few questions as to pricing, so as to not get scammed or hype it up for the locals. How much is the rate for supposed to be? Couple of youtube videos say 2000 to 3000 pesos. Also I would probably try buragos since it's a sureshot place considering my research is youtube videos and Philippines redcat. Com.

Speaking of the website it showed me options as to parlours called Starfleet, The Cave spa, Frictio Health Spa and some KTVs with massage parlours attached like Sylvanus up in Pegasus and Kremlin or also called Classique. Any info is appreciated as to full service and if it's still open, Flight 168 in Air Force One is closed and was kinda wanted to try that out.

KTVs seem like a good option and is indeed a nice experience, also found one that's called classmates I think. Please just let me know if the KTVs provide full service, the rates and which you would suggest or any alternatives, I can justify the price if its a theme type place. If not please let me know some short time rental hotels maybe in Burgos or Makati with names and price, 2 places would be plenty just incase the FR is taking me somewhere shady.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2997737]The Philippines doesn't have the ubiquitous massage ++ joints that are everywhere elsewhere in asia. Even at night there aren't Thai style soapies but a few bars have back rooms or KTVs have dine in. Restricting it to daytime only really limits the choices. ID agree with you that freelancers or Manila Courtesans and a shortime hotel would be the easiest.[/QUOTE]Hey Goferring,

Thanks for the reply. I checked out Manila Courtesans and it's simply amazing, photos and pricing, but my issue is whether its legit.

I've seen other websites in other countries where its similar and end up being too good to be true. I've messaged the chatbot and it suggested some hotels I could book but it all seems too posh and expensive. Will the girls not come if I book a random short time hotel or is it a requirement to book the hotels given by the chatbot? If possible please suggest someone you have taken in the past and a hotel with pricing.

[QUOTE=Transporter;2997760]Just do a search online or go to massage republic, there are many, just got to find one located close to you.[/QUOTE]Hey Transporter.

Thanks for the reply. I've used MR in the past here in Dubai but only after cross checking references in the Dubai forum and seems legit.

Also just to be clear did you mean freelancers or parlours? If you have any suggestions to try, please do let me know with links and prices and I will prefer them as they come recommended. Also is Incall a thing in PH? That would be another way to go.

[QUOTE=DacosTax;2998529]
Hey Transporter.
Thanks for the reply. I've used MR in the past here in Dubai but only after cross checking references in the Dubai forum and seems legit. Also just to be clear did you mean freelancers or parlours? If you have any suggestions to try, please do let me know with links and prices and I will prefer them as they come recommended. Also is Incall a thing in PH? That would be another way to go.[/QUOTE]MR has all Freelancers, spa, parlours, nuru, all the above. Keep in mind your definition may not be the same as theirs. Yes all I know of offer both incall and outcall.

[QUOTE=DacosTax;2998529]

Hey Goferring,

Thanks for the reply. I checked out Manila Courtesans and it's simply amazing, photos and pricing, but my issue is whether its legit.

I've seen other websites in other countries where its similar and end up being too good to be true. I've messaged the chatbot and it suggested some hotels I could book but it all seems too posh and expensive. Will the girls not come if I book a random short time hotel or is it a requirement to book the hotels given by the chatbot? If possible please suggest someone you have taken in the past and a hotel with pricing.

[/QUOTE]MR is legit and while many girls are wildly overpriced vs outside, many are gorgeous.

Ignore any princess with a tick list of requirements. If the hotel isn't up to her standards, then you don't want to know her anyway. No need to be a dick but Pinas react well to the guy taking the lead. Guys that aquiece to all their requests quickly find themselves duped or ripped off. Best to say I'm here with this much. Are you interested? Maybe a little wiggle room on price but not lots of requirements.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. My comments about pricing is when you are dealing direct with the girl. MR is fixed price as far as I know but the prices of different girls vary wildly. As usual, higher price does not guarantee better service.

G.

[QUOTE=DacosTax;2998529]Are freelancers okay with Condoms as I've read in the forum that you don't mention it until before the deed in the room and not during negotiation? Bareback is fine by me as I enjoy creampies but trying it with freelancers could be risky.

Do I carry condoms or would the girls have it? Usually I don't since they carry since the girls usually have it.

Do the girl offer anal and CIM or is that an extra? CIM is something I'm yet to try and would want to try that.

Just a few questions as to pricing, so as to not get scammed or hype it up for the locals. How much is the rate for supposed to be? Couple of youtube videos say 2000 to 3000 pesos. [/QUOTE]1 - Your choice. Just throw one on if you have concerns. Only ever had one FL who mentioned a condom.

2 - BYO with freelancers.

3 - Freelancers will offer a BJ before anything else. Whether they spit or swallow, you won't know until it happens. As for hitting them up the clacker, be prepared for rejection or be willing to pay for the privilege.

4 - Depends on your negotiating skills. I recently had a great FL in Makati who was happy with 2000 p and she stayed the night and got a 1000 p tip after some wake-up action. Others I've paid 4000 as they were 'up there' in the looks department and it was worth it, considering I didn't have to pay bar fines and LD's. If you're negotiating in this price range, make sure she's committed to more than just one shot and it's not all over in half an hour.

Just from my experience _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2998748]1 - Your choice. Just throw one on if you have concerns. Only ever had one FL who mentioned a condom.

2 - BYO with freelancers.

3 - Freelancers will offer a BJ before anything else. Whether they spit or swallow, you won't know until it happens. As for hitting them up the clacker, be prepared for rejection or be willing to pay for the privilege.

4 - Depends on your negotiating skills. I recently had a great FL in Makati who was happy with 2000 p and she stayed the night and got a 1000 p tip after some wake-up action. Others I've paid 4000 as they were 'up there' in the looks department and it was worth it, considering I didn't have to pay bar fines and LD's. If you're negotiating in this price range, make sure she's committed to more than just one shot and it's not all over in half an hour.

Just from my experience _ Phil.[/QUOTE]I think he's worried that the FLs will not accept sex with condoms, at least that's what I'm understanding.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2998748]Only ever had one FL who mentioned a condom.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]A few of the hard core girls are starting to use condoms as something that can bargained away for increased fees. Just like extra shots, anal, CIM etc.

Not Manila but EVERY Gensan Walker started off saying they were required but were quick to back down. Not a single PinaLove girl mentioned them.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2998751]I think he's worried that the FLs will not accept sex with condoms, at least that's what I'm understanding.[/QUOTE]To be honest Ugly, I'm losing track of it all, as there's been so many questions asked recently about getting some action with many obstacles in place.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2998961]To be honest Ugly, I'm losing track of it all, as there's been so many questions asked recently about getting some action with many obstacles in place.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]I have the mobile lab, and the lab technician with me: before I stick my dick into them my GF goes down on them and fingers them, then let's me know if it's ok or not. Depending on the test results we silently decide the course of action and the sequence of events.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2999196]I have the mobile lab, and the lab technician with me: before I stick my dick into them my GF goes down on them and fingers them, then let's me know if it's ok or not. Depending on the test results we silently decide the course of action and the sequence of events.[/QUOTE]Wow, what a great approach Ugly. Love it.

I think, as others have mentioned here on other posts, DacosTax is overthinking everything.

There's always a way to have a naughty on the side, but when you're so worried about covering your tracks, especially with family in tow, is it worth the effort?

We've offered quite a few suggestions for him, and we all take a risk of sorts, when it comes to bedding a hot, or not so hot, Pina.

Sometimes people have to work it out for themselves _ Phil.

Hey guys thanks again for all the replies. I appreciate your experience highly and your valuable input. I also apologise for asking a lot of questions and complicating things.

I'm currently undergoing the visa processes and just found out my family lives in close proximity to Burgos ST, maybe a 10-15 minutes walk. After reading a lot of posts, I've come to the decision to either go for a FL on Burgos or get one off of Manila Courtesans. Get a Short time hotel or sogo or just follow the lead of the chosen FL. I was hoping for a full night sort off arrangement but that won't be quite possible, so I will be taking a 2 or 3 hour session instead.

Another option would be Pina Love or FB walkers. Here I have a couple of doubts which I will list below.

I understood that PL is like tinder. Would I need a premium version to properly utilize or could I make do with the free version?

Made a Proxy account to search for FB walkers and used tips from the forum such as walkers manila etc. But mostly see spa girls advertising themselves on market place. Am I at the right place or am I doing something wrong?

I would be trying to pickup someone from the 7/11 PhilJoy earlier mentioned. Any other recommendations for hotspots? Specifically for the daytime.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2998748]1 - Your choice. Just throw one on if you have concerns. Only ever had one FL who mentioned a condom.

2 - BYO with freelancers.

3 - Freelancers will offer a BJ before anything else. Whether they spit or swallow, you won't know until it happens. As for hitting them up the clacker, be prepared for rejection or be willing to pay for the privilege.

4 - Depends on your negotiating skills. I recently had a great FL in Makati who was happy with 2000 p and she stayed the night and got a 1000 p tip after some wake-up action. Others I've paid 4000 as they were 'up there' in the looks department and it was worth it, considering I didn't have to pay bar fines and LD's. If you're negotiating in this price range, make sure she's committed to more than just one shot and it's not all over in half an hour.

Just from my experience _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this input. My dilemma was whether to wear or not to wear. It's a considerable risk but a risk I'm willing to take. I've Mongered in India and Dubai and condoms are the norm but in my adventures I've only found 1 spa's in both countries where I've been able to skip wearing one and I'm a regular. I have faced performance issues wearing a condom and the girl asked me to remove it and I enjoyed my session. So it's going to be no condoms for this trip.

So here is something I'm doubtful about, the BJ. It take me a while to finish when I'm getting a BJ, so usually it's cut short and we proceed to the main act. It's one of the reasons I've not gotten a CIM another could be that the girl didn't want to continue with the BJ.

Anyways how is it in Philippines with the FL, is that considered another shot? Do I have to ask while negotiating or is it understood?

I have to say I'm a pretty good negotiator but only when I know the real price. I will mostly opt for a short time maybe 2-3 hrs per session maybe 2 shots and need to have a CIM (basically finish once with a BJ spit or swallow). I wouldn't mind paying a little extra for better looks or mind paying extra for the CIM.

I understand that the rates would be anywhere between 2000-4000 pesos or is it lesser for shorter time?

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2998751]I think he's worried that the FLs will not accept sex with condoms, at least that's what I'm understanding.[/QUOTE]Initially that was what I was thinking and you understood right. But I will be going forward without one.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2999206]Wow, what a great approach Ugly. Love it.

I think, as others have mentioned here on other posts, DacosTax is overthinking everything.

There's always a way to have a naughty on the side, but when you're so worried about covering your tracks, especially with family in tow, is it worth the effort?

We've offered quite a few suggestions for him, and we all take a risk of sorts, when it comes to bedding a hot, or not so hot, Pina.

Sometimes people have to work it out for themselves _ Phil.[/QUOTE]I truly appreciate all your inputs and it helped with my decision. It's true I was overthinking and took the day yesterday to read a lot of pages in the forum which helped a bit more. Not really covering tracks since I always have that part of the adventure covered but more worried about the risk of catching something. These risks are prevalent everywhere and I truly just overthinked it too much without justification.

[QUOTE=DacosTax;2999231].................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

I truly appreciate all your inputs and it helped with my decision. It's true I was overthinking and took the day yesterday to read a lot of pages in the forum which helped a bit more. Not really covering tracks since I always have that part of the adventure covered but more worried about the risk of catching something. These risks are prevalent everywhere and I truly just overthinked it too much without justification.[/QUOTE]Not bringing something home after your adventure is part of the covering up the tracks, actually the most important one. When I used to be married and whoring around I always put on a condom for intercourse, it sucks and it's no fun especially when getting to certain sequence in a 3 some, like pussy, mouth, pussy, if you keep it on it's weird and no real feeling, if you take it off then put another one on, it's complicated, etc. Also if you do blowjob after removing the condom the girl may complain about the taste of the lube that's on the inside of the condom.

The few times when the condom came off, by accident, or passion I always found an excuse not to have sex with the wife until tested, and cleared.

A simpler way, which I've been using all my unmarried life is to wash and pee immediately after the sex, don't get lazy. It kept me safe, but is not guaranteed.

I have no experience with that, but some members were discussing a prophylactic antibiotic regimen before and after the sex here in the forum, not to long ago, maybe you should search for that.

Use your common sense, if something fishy is going on down there, stay away, use your fingers for the foreplay, doucheing is not common in the PH, so if the smell from the depths of the pleasure well is not from the specific filipina shrimp salt variety range, avoid it.

Stay safe!

[QUOTE=DacosTax;2999231]I understood that PL is like tinder. Would I need a premium version to properly utilize or could I make do with the free version?

I would be trying to pickup someone from the 7/11 PhilJoy earlier mentioned.

So here is something I'm doubtful about, the BJ. It take me a while to finish when I'm getting a BJ, so usually it's cut short and we proceed to the main act. It's one of the reasons I've not gotten a CIM another could be that the girl didn't want to continue with the BJ. Anyways how is it in Philippines with the FL, is that considered another shot? Do I have to ask while negotiating or is it understood?

I have to say I'm a pretty good negotiator but only when I know the real price. I will mostly opt for a short time maybe 2-3 hrs per session maybe 2 shots and need to have a CIM (basically finish once with a BJ spit or swallow). I wouldn't mind paying a little extra for better looks or mind paying extra for the CIM.

I understand that the rates would be anywhere between 2000-4000 pesos or is it lesser for shorter time?[/QUOTE]Hi Dacos,

From my limited time on PL, it's not really like Tinder. You just have to look for girls who want to communicate off-site (ie on WhatsApp) and chances are they're probably FL's willing to negotiate.

And yes, it's worth going premium for a short visit.

My suggestion of hitting on the girls outside the 7/11 is probably bottom of the barrel, but at least you'll get to get your rocks off (Not that I have done them, but whenever I've been there, I've been swamped with propositions).

If you're paying a girl for CIM, and especially a FL, she should be willing to do the deed if you tell her upfront what you want. However, sucking on it for half an hour could become hard work for her. I know that licking a clit for an extended period of time can be quite a workout. Keep in mind that asking for extras with hookers is like paying for extra beetroot on your hamburger or pepperoni on your pizza.

Short time of 2-3 hrs probably wouldn't be short time in their minds. Usually for most, it's just one shot in the shortest possible time so they can move on the the next paying punter.

As mentioned, it's all negotiable. But you're not going to get ST for 2-3 hrs for 2000 p unless it's 3 am in the morning and they need money for food and family. When hitting up a FL tell them exactly what you want upfront. If they don't like it, just tell the next one "She didn't want to do CIM".

PL helped me out in Boracay which is not your typical mongering area. I wouldn't be bothered with it if I had to spend too much time on it, especially if there's FL options out there on the street. However, the quality of girls might be better, if their pics are verified.

Just my experience _ Phil.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2999401]Not bringing something home after your adventure is part of the covering up the tracks, actually the most important one. When I used to be married and whoring around I always put on a condom for intercourse, it sucks and it's no fun especially when getting to certain sequence in a 3 some, like pussy, mouth, pussy, if you keep it on it's weird and no real feeling, if you take it off then put another one on, it's complicated, etc. Also if you do blowjob after removing the condom the girl may complain about the taste of the lube that's on the inside of the condom.

The few times when the condom came off, by accident, or passion I always found an excuse not to have sex with the wife until tested, and cleared.

A simpler way, which I've been using all my unmarried life is to wash and pee immediately after the sex, don't get lazy. It kept me safe, but is not guaranteed.

I have no experience with that, but some members were discussing a prophylactic antibiotic regimen before and after the sex here in the forum, not to long ago, maybe you should search for that.

Use your common sense, if something fishy is going on down there, stay away, use your fingers for the foreplay, doucheing is not common in the PH, so if the smell from the depths of the pleasure well is not from the specific filipina shrimp salt variety range, avoid it.

Stay safe![/QUOTE]Good point and I didn't think of it that way since I'm not married or have a partner but still wouldn't want to be at the receiving end of any problems. I always do follow the wash and pee method after intercourse. I will surely take a gander at the antibiotic regimen, I think I might have scrolled past the post maybe here in manila or makati forum or maybe even the hotel form but for sure will look for it again and thanks for that. I always do sneak my hand during foreplay and take a sniff just to be sure but will be more alert and careful. I've read in another post I think an FR mentioning a specific filipina smell and also heard from a friend who's into filipinas back here in Dubai that there's a distinct smell but no cause for concern. As a beginner, I've experienced bad smell one time and its stuck with me so I'm generally careful and appreciate the reminder.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2999442]Hi Dacos,

From my limited time on PL, it's not really like Tinder. You just have to look for girls who want to communicate off-site (ie on WhatsApp) and chances are they're probably FL's willing to negotiate.

And yes, it's worth going premium for a short visit.

My suggestion of hitting on the girls outside the 7/11 is probably bottom of the barrel, but at least you'll get to get your rocks off (Not that I have done them, but whenever I've been there, I've been swamped with propositions).

If you're paying a girl for CIM, and especially a FL, she should be willing to do the deed if you tell her upfront what you want. However, sucking on it for half an hour could become hard work for her. I know that licking a clit for an extended period of time can be quite a workout. Keep in mind that asking for extras with hookers is like paying for extra beetroot on your hamburger or pepperoni on your pizza.

Short time of 2-3 hrs probably wouldn't be short time in their minds. Usually for most, it's just one shot in the shortest possible time so they can move on the the next paying punter.

As mentioned, it's all negotiable. But you're not going to get ST for 2-3 hrs for 2000 p unless it's 3 am in the morning and they need money for food and family. When hitting up a FL tell them exactly what you want upfront. If they don't like it, just tell the next one "She didn't want to do CIM".

PL helped me out in Boracay which is not your typical mongering area. I wouldn't be bothered with it if I had to spend too much time on it, especially if there's FL options out there on the street. However, the quality of girls might be better, if their pics are verified.

Just my experience _ Phil.[/QUOTE]It's totally different I agree, from reading a few post I expected it to be your average dating app. Just signed up on PL and man it's amazing, totally unexpected. PL is literally paradise compared to Tinder. I've been getting a lot of hits and messages with numbers for whatsapp, looking for fun and casual only messages and are you free now or are you in manila or makati. I think a person coming to Philippines the first time is going to take about 5 minutes to understand the different places like what's the difference between metro manila and manila and is makati in manila. So I've been switching up the location between the 2 places and been getting a lot of hit. It's nice that I can change location easily to browse even before coming. I might try to hit up some girls on PL when I'm there if not MC and only concede to FL's at burgos as my last option.

A few things about PL.

I'm not looking for freebies nor am I expecting it but won't mind if I do end up getting it, I still plan on paying at least 1500 - 2000 for their time. Would that be enough?

From your experience, have the girls ever taking you back to their place (considering they are students or just girl who want to have fun or maybe even incall FL) or is it always going to be a hotel type deal?

I was only considering 7/11 since it was suggested by you but I guess it's a mistake on my part because I just asking where to find FL. If there's anywhere else you'd rather have me try I would be up for it. Maybe something decent and not bottom of the barrel stuff. My absolute max would be 5 k considering MC girls charge that as a minimum for their time excluding hotel and transpo charges but would love a cheaper alternative anywhere between 2-4 k. Travelling a bit won't hurt too just don't want my options to be limited to that 7/11. If you could, I would appreciate any recommendations.

I don't expect the FLs to meet all my expectations but will negotiate accordingly. I'm just going to go with the flow I guess. Will try to get someone willing to do CIM and just hope it'll be a good BJ.

I've also planned a Quezon City trip after reading a few posts. Turns out the spas that offer FS or ES as they say in the Philippines are there and the same names I had mentioned initially. I should thank Shiny Crazy for the reports and where to find out about them. It's a bit expensive for a shot but it's my kinda thing. Only considering this if PL doesn't work out, but heading to QC anyways.

I plan on posting a detailed guide for the average traveller on how to monger in the Philippines limited to where I visit, FR or FRs and will do so in my home forum too.

[QUOTE=DacosTax;2999512]

From your experience, have the girls ever taking you back to their place (considering they are students or just girl who want to have fun or maybe even incall FL) or is it always going to be a hotel type deal?
.[/QUOTE]They will never take you to their place, and also you don't want to go there, is better not to know how most of them live.

Also if a girl that you don't know invites you to her place, probably you are going to be robbed, or kidnapped.

The options aren't complicated.

1) Doxy PEP ie Doxycycline. 200 mgs within 72 hours of exposure. Effective against Chlamydia and Syphilis, NOT Gonorrhea. There is no effective prophylaxis against Gn.

2) HPV. If you're under 45 get vaccinated.

3) HIV. BB oral sex (either way) virtually no risk.

BB Vaginal sex very low risk.

BB Anal sex, you should take PreP.

4) Consider Hep B vaccination. Very very low risk unless you go down on a woman who has some blood in the vagina (which maybe in trace amounts that you can't see / taste / smell). But as HepB is a life changing disease and causes liver cancer it makes sense if you are a regular monger who likes to eat pussy.

I think that covers everything.