German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2588135]I think this went out when BBBJ was made illegal in Germany. So can't do BBBJ in public and who really wants CBJ surely not any sane male. So Globe still has it in Switzerland where BBBJ is legal but not in Germany for this reason. That is my theory anyhow.[/QUOTE]You are partially correct. Yes, Globe Switzerland is the best place now for public sex; they even have a public sex context every Tuesdays at 3:00 pm for you to win 5 free entry and 5 free 30 minutes session, totaling about 1200 Swiss Franc to win every Tuesday! God I so hope that I can visit Globe in next few weeks!

You can still have full on public sex with BBBJ in Oase, Finca, LR (if and when it reopens) and most other clubs in Germany, long after that stupid 2017 law came in effect. I was in Oase probably 5-6 times in Jan-Feb 2020, and only times I had sex in a room was with AO girls. Sharks girls are kinda shy for this, I don't really get it, but still you can do some public sex upstairs couch area or outdoor, even though some girls told me management pays them 50 e if they do public show sex (probably in that case management won't allow BBBJ for legal liability reasons).

In any case, go ahead and indulge in public sex with BBBJ in Germany, you just need to find a right girl who's DTF in public and hit it off with her. A shot of tequila or vodka might help her to open up haha. And also be careful to watch just in case any razzia happens LOL.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2588236]You are partially correct. Yes, Globe Switzerland is the best place now for public sex; they even have a public sex context every Tuesdays at 3:00 pm for you to win 5 free entry and 5 free 30 minutes session, totaling about 1200 Swiss Franc to win every Tuesday! God I so hope that I can visit Globe in next few weeks!

You can still have full on public sex with BBBJ in Oase, Finca, LR (if and when it reopens) and most other clubs in Germany, long after that stupid 2017 law came in effect. I was in Oase probably 5-6 times in Jan-Feb 2020, and only times I had sex in a room was with AO girls. Sharks girls are kinda shy for this, I don't really get it, but still you can do some public sex upstairs couch area or outdoor, even though some girls told me management pays them 50 e if they do public show sex (probably in that case management won't allow BBBJ for legal liability reasons).

In any case, go ahead and indulge in public sex with BBBJ in Germany, you just need to find a right girl who's DTF in public and hit it off with her. A shot of tequila or vodka might help her to open up haha. And also be careful to watch just in case any razzia happens LOL.[/QUOTE]There are AO option in Oase? This I did not know.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2588196]I have seen a few uncovered blow jobs here and there in public since the rule change but of course nothing like what it used to be back in the day when fucking in public was seen fairly regularly in the kino or gardens. Public fucking is not my thing and I never asked nor accepted it; however, my guess is that along with the rule change, the change in the guest mix and girls have contributed. Now, we have a lot more Asians and others who tend to be a bit shy or not into public sex anyhow (some guys even wearing underwear, a towel, and then a robe); also, girls no longer offer even blow jobs in kinos and the younger generation Romies tend to look at every single thing as a money making oppty; anything more than a bored covered blow job + perfunctory fuck deserves extra money in their minds.

Back in the day, a quick blow job in the kino was a way for the girl to get the client interested and close the sale. Now, the supply demand curves have shifted in their favor and they don't need to give out quick samples to lure clients. Far from it.

If the guy doesn't ask for it and the girl doesn't offer it, public sex is going the way of dodo. I won't lie, it makes for good viewing if the guy next to you is blown. Oh well.[/QUOTE]I mostly seen public sex in cinema, I saw some BBBJ in main bar, not full sex in any FKK actually, just in cinemas I always see.

I am not into voyeur though or being voyeur, but if Globe contest is not rigged, I am bit interested LOL! But I think it is rigged.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2588260]There are AO option in Oase? This I did not know.[/QUOTE]Short answer: Not as an option like a rate card or in RTCs or Bernds.

Long answer: All of these girls fuck someone AO every week, you just need to be that guy to her even at an FKK. But don't go ask her for AO in first intro, better yet don't even ask, just let a situation happen, but that said most would AO with you if she likes you in the intro session and realizes you are clean. Sometimes though I do tell the girl that I hate fucking a condom LOL. I had only once AO in the very first session with a girl in Oase. All others after 2-3 sessions, some after much longer.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2588236]Sharks girls are kinda shy for this, I don't really get it, but still you can do some public sex upstairs couch area or outdoor, even though some girls told me management pays them 50 e if they do public show sex (probably in that case management won't allow BBBJ for legal liability reasons).[/QUOTE]In Sharks I fucked Helen (RO) once in that couch area upstairs when there was a long waiting time for a room. Initially she wanted to upsell this for 50 Euros, but when I said "na, we can just wait for a room" she quickly did the math and she calculated that the faster she 'finished' me, the faster she could be back hunting for the next customer. LOL!

There were 2 other couples fucking there at that time. I'm not particularly into public sex, but I'm not shy either. , and by focusing on Helen (she's quite hot IMHO), I was able to cum pretty quickly. It was an interesting experience, being seen by others fucking Helen and also being able to watch other couples fucking at the same time, but it wasn't a big deal.

I also fucked a WG in the Kino (when it was still a Kino) in Sharks. I can't remember her name anymore as it was a long time ago, but the Kino was usually mostly empty anyway so it was "public sex" in name only. Some guys were watching us from a distance.

I've seen a guy fuck a girl in one of that corner jacuzzi in GT, but one of those 'management girls' quickly came over and put a stop to it. She later had a word with the guy and the WG, so perhaps they got into a bit of trouble. (perhaps out of hygiene reasons, no fucking allowed in the pool?) Now that I'm writing about GT, I remember that I've also fucked a few WGs in the GT Kino when room waiting times were too long. Again, no big deal IMHO, but it's nice that at least it's possible when you're into it.

P.S. I would never pay extra for it. It usually works in both the customer and the WG's favour: no room waiting times, so we both finish quicker. For a WG time is money, so instead of waiting for a free room, a WG can be back in the main lounge again a lot quicker. Same for me: the faster I'm finished, the quicker I can take a shower, enjoy a sauna, get a meal, have a rest or recover, and be ready for the next girl. Win-win for both, so some friendly advice to the vaxxed dummies with their QR codes and tracking apps: never pay extra! LOL!

[QUOTE=Gino02;2588476]Short answer: Not as an option like a rate card or in RTCs or Bernds.

Long answer: All of these girls fuck someone AO every week, you just need to be that guy to her even at an FKK. But don't go ask her for AO in first intro, better yet don't even ask, just let a situation happen, but that said most would AO with you if she likes you in the intro session and realizes you are clean. Sometimes though I do tell the girl that I hate fucking a condom LOL. I had only once AO in the very first session with a girl in Oase. All others after 2-3 sessions, some after much longer.[/QUOTE]AO is something I have not done in FKK, in escort I have, but somehow I never asked in FKK. It is shame because I could think few regular stunners that I had some trust that they are clean and I could have done it, but back then, the thought never really came across my mind while I am in FKK and always used condom for pussy or anal intercourse.

For pussy, I may do it in FKK when I find stunner regular, but I have to think about this as in escort, I get normal stunner that has normal life before, but in FKK, most have been in the industry for awhile, so it make me wonder though I never had any STD during my over 10 years in FKK and considering so called AO clubs were managed without big outbreak of big STD before summer 2017 law, doing AO with FKK girls can be not too big risk! Got to think about it.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2588236]You are partially correct. Yes, Globe Switzerland is the best place now for public sex; they even have a public sex context every Tuesdays at 3:00 pm for you to win 5 free entry and 5 free 30 minutes session, totaling about 1200 Swiss Franc to win every Tuesday! God I so hope that I can visit Globe in next few weeks!

You can still have full on public sex with BBBJ in Oase, Finca, LR (if and when it reopens) and most other clubs in Germany, long after that stupid 2017 law came in effect. I was in Oase probably 5-6 times in Jan-Feb 2020, and only times I had sex in a room was with AO girls. Sharks girls are kinda shy for this, I don't really get it, but still you can do some public sex upstairs couch area or outdoor, even though some girls told me management pays them 50 e if they do public show sex (probably in that case management won't allow BBBJ for legal liability reasons).

In any case, go ahead and indulge in public sex with BBBJ in Germany, you just need to find a right girl who's DTF in public and hit it off with her. A shot of tequila or vodka might help her to open up haha. And also be careful to watch just in case any razzia happens LOL.[/QUOTE]For the price being higher than all other FKK, Globe is the best if you do not mind the high pricing strategy of Ingo because there are no upsell, no bad service in Globe! And I do find stunners there, not as much as it is hyped, but stunners are there!

I just hope they will do something to rooftop during summer to make open sky fuck curtain room or something like that. In winter, it would be nice to have some tents there too with some kind of warm stove.

Final assessment of FKK scene in Western Germany.

Most clubs are obviously quite down.

Sharks and Samya (although I am extrapolating by filling in girls I know are working on nights I wasn't there) are the top optics clubs at the moment. The girls seem to be concentrating at these clubs. Unfortunately so are the men. Other clubs are worth visiting if you have more days and are willing to do some hunting and okay with some light days where you only have 2 or 3 girls you would do. Northern NRW clubs like Penelope, Aca Gold and Aca Prime will still answer the cheap entry / cheap room niche so long as you are okay with a smaller optically pleasing pool. But all I need is 2-3 doable girls per club.

Sharks upsell situation is better than what was reported at the beginning of July although still definitely present. Oase is still an upsell nightmare. NRW clubs seem unchanged, just the occasional CBJ to BBBJ upcharge.

Getting to Germany and traveling around was quite the same. Getting back to your country might be the more difficult part. For US residents or others needing a test to return, just Google Maps "TestZentrum" and you will find a medical lab that offers covid testing. I used one in Cologne called "walk-in ZotsKlimas. " Antigen testing was 21.5 e. You can be in and out in 5 minutes and have the results by the next day if not earlier. They do not take cash.

Rental cars are higher but not as high as some make it out to be. I rented through my Hilton membership and got an intermediate for 46 e per day for 7 days. More expensive but not extreme. If I booked a month earlier, the price was closer to 35 e per day.

Coming back to the States was a nightmare. Getting through Customs lines was complete chaos.

End of the day, know that the scene is in recovery so curb your expectations. Yet somehow, I pulled off 2 rooms that were top 15 rooms of all time. One was with a Sharks veteran and another was with a new-to-me Samya girl. Both rooms I paid base rate for all-inclusive service. Great rooms are there, you might just run into some landmines finding them.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2588196]I have seen a few uncovered blow jobs here and there in public since the rule change but of course nothing like what it used to be back in the day when fucking in public was seen fairly regularly in the kino or gardens. Public fucking is not my thing and I never asked nor accepted it; however, my guess is that along with the rule change, the change in the guest mix and girls have contributed. Now, we have a lot more Asians and others who tend to be a bit shy or not into public sex anyhow (some guys even wearing underwear, a towel, and then a robe); also, girls no longer offer even blow jobs in kinos and the younger generation Romies tend to look at every single thing as a money making oppty; anything more than a bored covered blow job + perfunctory fuck deserves extra money in their minds.

Back in the day, a quick blow job in the kino was a way for the girl to get the client interested and close the sale. Now, the supply demand curves have shifted in their favor and they don't need to give out quick samples to lure clients. Far from it.

If the guy doesn't ask for it and the girl doesn't offer it, public sex is going the way of dodo. I won't lie, it makes for good viewing if the guy next to you is blown. Oh well.[/QUOTE]From legal standpoint, the authority can charge you heavy fine, but I never heard it has been enforced. That law was targeting AO clubs anyways.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2588737]AO is something I have not done in FKK, in escort I have, but somehow I never asked in FKK. It is shame because I could think few regular stunners that I had some trust that they are clean and I could have done it, but back then, the thought never really came across my mind while I am in FKK and always used condom for pussy or anal intercourse.

For pussy, I may do it in FKK when I find stunner regular, but I have to think about this as in escort, I get normal stunner that has normal life before, but in FKK, most have been in the industry for awhile, so it make me wonder though I never had any STD during my over 10 years in FKK and considering so called AO clubs were managed without big outbreak of big STD before summer 2017 law, doing AO with FKK girls can be not too big risk! Got to think about it.[/QUOTE]The main reason the German government started the CBJ which is mainly never followed is the resistant gonorrhea. This has lead to increasing the dose of ceftriaxone from 250 MG to 500 MG and using doxycyline 100 MG twice a day for 7 days instead of the single dose zithromax. The resistant gonorrhea is now the main gonorrhea in the USA in that the CDC updated its treatment of gonorrhea in 2020 to reflect this. Originally the resistant gonorrhea started in Southeast Asia then migrated to Europe and then to the USA.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2588737]AO is something I have not done in FKK, in escort I have, but somehow I never asked in FKK. It is shame because I could think few regular stunners that I had some trust that they are clean and I could have done it, but back then, the thought never really came across my mind while I am in FKK and always used condom for pussy or anal intercourse.

For pussy, I may do it in FKK when I find stunner regular, but I have to think about this as in escort, I get normal stunner that has normal life before, but in FKK, most have been in the industry for awhile, so it make me wonder though I never had any STD during my over 10 years in FKK and considering so called AO clubs were managed without big outbreak of big STD before summer 2017 law, doing AO with FKK girls can be not too big risk! Got to think about it.[/QUOTE]Sorry but the guys who catches some MST are never advertising about it. With escorts the risk is lower because usually they have less clients per day but in a FKK the risk is very high specially with the new type of clientele that are there in the recent years.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2588476]Short answer: Not as an option like a rate card or in RTCs or Bernds.

Long answer: All of these girls fuck someone AO every week, you just need to be that guy to her even at an FKK. But don't go ask her for AO in first intro, better yet don't even ask, just let a situation happen, but that said most would AO with you if she likes you in the intro session and realizes you are clean. Sometimes though I do tell the girl that I hate fucking a condom LOL. I had only once AO in the very first session with a girl in Oase. All others after 2-3 sessions, some after much longer.[/QUOTE]50 EUR extra for AO or included? I "know" some girls in Sharks that iv'e also fucked in hotels and at their homes but I have never dared to ask anyone of them for AO LOL.

[QUOTE=Kippen;2588938]50 EUR extra for AO or included? I "know" some girls in Sharks that iv'e also fucked in hotels and at their homes but I have never dared to ask anyone of them for AO LOL.[/QUOTE]My experience is after you repeat sessions with same girls they begin offering AO the 3rd or 4th day. Not the 3rd or 4th session, I am talking repeat days, so they begin to sense you are a new "regular". Back in the day I was getting many AO offers from LR girls. Generally you would need at least 2 weeks to build an impression of a regular client. In this regard and many others the locals have a huge advantage compared to us tourists.

I am not an AO guy, I fill the rubber (preferably 3-4 times) and I go to sleep in peace. My kink is group sex like MMF but only with very specific girl types.

[QUOTE=Kippen;2588938]50 EUR extra for AO or included? I "know" some girls in Sharks that iv'e also fucked in hotels and at their homes but I have never dared to ask anyone of them for AO LOL.[/QUOTE]Interestingly, I never paid extra for AO, though I was in rooms usually one hour or longer, sometimes much longer. Also, in very few cases, if we became friends outside FKK, paid for lunch or dinner sometimes, or if we went to some dance clubs, bought her drinks etc. Like I said earlier, these girls, like any girl, will do AO with you if they feel you are clean AND they want to enjoy AO with you. Not for money. Like most normal people I ever met, they also sometimes like real sex, not fucking a condom that they do for their job many times everyday. But good thing is that once you have AO with a girl, she will always do AO with you, she will never ask you for using condoms ever again, even if you haven't seen her for couple years (in my experience), I'm surprised about their long term memory particularly when they fuck so many new guys every week in the FKK!

[QUOTE=Gino02;2588476]Short answer: Not as an option like a rate card or in RTCs or Bernds.

Long answer: All of these girls fuck someone AO every week, you just need to be that guy to her even at an FKK. But don't go ask her for AO in first intro, better yet don't even ask, just let a situation happen, but that said most would AO with you if she likes you in the intro session and realizes you are clean. Sometimes though I do tell the girl that I hate fucking a condom LOL. I had only once AO in the very first session with a girl in Oase. All others after 2-3 sessions, some after much longer.[/QUOTE]Several girls proposed AO to me, I always declined and left the room and never booked them again. My health is more important than 5 second pleasure but this seems not be the case for all the mongers some are controlled by their libido, sad for them.