Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=CatBert55;3061141]The elephant in the room no one wants to talk about. With Brasilarias and other latinas, the risk of drama is always high. At an AirBnB, you're on your own. And if the drama spills outside of the apartment, expect to be on the street looking for new accommodations later that day.[/QUOTE]Maybe I have been very lucky. I have taken plenty of girls to my Airbnb from websites, clinicas and boates, and from my experience SP girls tend to be very discreet. They know how to present their ID to the front desk / security who are polite back. Girls are either dressed casual or in elegant evening wear. Maybe I favor the petite thin spinner girls who are less dramatic.

[QUOTE=CatBert55;3061141]The elephant in the room no one wants to talk about. With Brasilarias and other latinas, the risk of drama is always high. At an AirBnB, you're on your own. And if the drama spills outside of the apartment, expect to be on the street looking for new accommodations later that day.[/QUOTE]In all my years I've had 4-5 girls go crazy.... always online, non-club girls. It was usually because they changed the payment terms after they arrived (payment before vs after, amount, time, BBBJ vs CBJ, etc.). Mind you in most cases I had the agreement recorded in our WhatsApp messages, but they changed their mind. I think they were mostly newish and thought I'd cave to their demands.

If they are in the apartment you are kind of screwed and I found the best thing is to just pay them a certain amount (300 r usually works) as well Uber home.

I was just in Sao Paulo for two weeks. As usual I'm leaving some details on the trip in the hopes that it will help others.

I stayed in Moema. I like the neighborhood as it's central to where I want to go, safe, walkable to clinicas, and has plenty of restaurants as well as couple SmartFit locations (45r/day or 200r/mth). All sex with girls was BBBJ and covered full sex. I am a blonde gringo, but speak conversational Portuguese which helps.

Monday (3/30): Favorita #1 came over for 800r all in and stayed for 2.5 hours with 2 shots. She's a 21 year old mother and tradeshow model I'd met on Tinder 18 months ago.

Tuesday: Went to Bomboa and pulled a girl for 800r around 12am. She was a 28 year old from Buzios and had a 'teacher' look with glasses. Funny part was that I asked for a short massage prior and she pulled out one of those massage guns. Also, she (surprisingly) kept her glasses on the entire time. I got a charge out of trying to fuck her hard enough that they'd fly off. At checkout Bomboa pulled some BS by trying to add on another 10-15% tip to the 10% service tip they already include. They 'misinterpreted' me when I said 'I have tipped' and added it. Much frustration. Not sure if I'll go back.

Wednesday: Went to Abbobora around 1pm, they had 18 girls, and I selected a beautiful girl for Bahia. 150r for the room and 250+20r tip to her. Later I went to Gauguin. One of the better crowds that I've seen there. Entered just before 9pm for 290r all consumption (I believe). There must have been 60-80 girls throughout the night with peak around 12am. I got a lot of quotes for 1000-1500r, but believe most would settle for 800-1000r. I wasn't feeling it and had work calls early so left.

Thursday: Miruna early afternoon for 350r. Their lineup was very poor, but found an unmemorable girl that worked. Stayed in that night as I had early meetings.

Friday: Online girl scheduled that evening, but she cancelled last minute due to Good Friday and needed to be with family. Post cancellation I went to a local craft beer place and had a good time chatting it up with locals.

Saturday: Went to Parque Ibrapuera late morning which was a nice break. There were literally thousands of people and it was fun just walking around. Afterwards, I had a nice late lunch at Kome with 3 other ISGers. It's a series of solid sushi places around Sao Paulo. All you can eat sushi was 175r. That evening I schedule an online girl from the east part of Sao Paulo for 1000r plus Uber in. Her name was Victoria, 23 year old with college degree, and had a Top 5 experience. A decent bottle of wine was very helpful. 2 shots on goal and 3 hours. I asked about anal and she said that need to prepared, but it could be on second date. Amazing girl.

Sunday: Went to A Figueira Rubaiyat, an upscale steakhouse, for lunch with a couple Brazilian friends. I highly recommend it as it has great atmosphere (huge tree in the middle) and amazing steaks. For evening Favorita #2 came over for 700r plus Ubers and stayed 2.5 hours. She's another 22 year old mother and beautician. A very light skinned mulatta with fantastic tits. The funny part was that she had gotten lip fillers on Friday and one was still a little raw so she asked for CBJ. Being a gentlemen I agreed, only asking that she deep throat as much as she could, which she did (LOL).

Monday: Business meetings / negotiations all day and into evening.

Tuesday: Midafternoon I went to Abborora and they had 10 girls. Not too good. I took a new girl name Vitoria from Amazonas. She must have been 1.78 m, dark tan, thin, appeared to have some tits, and 30 years old. Cost was 150r for room and 250 r for her. Unfortunately, one of the worst experiences I have ever had as a monger. In the room she demanded payment upfront (Mexican standoff), displayed flat tits (ie She padded them), then she only took a 5 second perfunctory shower (she smelled). She followed up with a pre-sex massage wherein she used half the lotion bottle and rubbed lotion all through my hair (yuck). Only spit on my dick and then tried to give me a handjob with her rough calloused hands. FUCK THAT CHICK TO HELL AND BACK. I got up and left because she had bruised my manhood and I couldn't even get hard. I nearly quit mongering that afternoon. It was that bad gentlemen. It was a time for deep introspection and self renewal.

That evening I went to Gauguin with 3 ISGers. Had a good time and spent ~1.5 hours with two girls, eventually settling on one. We began negotiations and I began quicky losing my attraction for her. She stood up and walked away as if insulted when I offered 800r, later saying that she normally worked at Scandallo and was used to more. I then said I was aware of Scandallo prices and knew 800r was decent, but could do 1000r if she added a couple items. She insisted on 1200r and I called it, walking away. It was unfortunately a bit of a wasted night, but I had time (and pride)

Wednesday: Went to Scandallo, arriving at 7:02 pm because my driver was a geriatric who drove too slow and got in a minor accident. No forgiveness from Scandallo and I paid 200r more for those 2 minutes. So annoying. I believe cost was 200r entry and 300r consumption. Other than that, a very good time with fellow mongers and Scandallo had my bottle from 5 months ago. I had some analysis paralysis, but collected 6-7 numbers, including a smoke show who has worked in the USA That wanted 1300r onsite, but agreed to 1800r overnight for 12 hours next trip (will see).
Thursday: Rescheduled online girl from prior Good Friday. She asked for 1500r, but we settled on 1000r. Dentistry student from University of Sao Paulo and very bad in bed (although she thought she was good). She was obviously very new to the game as I needed to teach her a lot. I ended things a little early and sent her on her way.

Friday to Sunday: I had a Favorita #3 come in from Rio and stayed at the Hyatt. A 21 year old part-time swimsuit and tradeshow model that known for almost 2 years. She's a taller version of Autumn Falls and spends 6 months of the year in Germany so I need to see her when I can! We agreed to 4000r plus her bus fare for the two days. Of course, we had some very nice dinners and I bought her a dress (I am a gentlemen after all). I did fuck her 8 times and enjoyed the longful stares of other men at the pool and when we went out. It definitely helped my ego ha ha. For dinners we went to the Terraza Rooftop, Terraco Italia, and Vittrini Beer Lounge (dancing). A pro tip is that at the clubs for 1000r we were able to skip the 30 min line and get a table plus 750 ML of Tanqueray plus 8 mixers (Red Bulls, tonics). She had two cute friends that were able to join us at the table as well for free. It was the way to go!

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3061380]That evening I went to Gauguin with 3 ISGers. Had a good time and spent ~1.5 hours with two girls, eventually settling on one. We began negotiations and I began quicky losing my attraction for her. She stood up and walked away as if insulted when I offered 800r, later saying that she normally worked at Scandallo and was used to more. I then said I was aware of Scandallo prices and knew 800r was decent, but could do 1000r if she added a couple items. She insisted on 1200r and I called it, walking away. It was unfortunately a bit of a wasted night, but I had time (and pride).[/QUOTE]While walking away is exactly what I would have done too! One of the reasons we like a place like a Gauguin is because it's supposed to offer good quality at a lower price point. If her ass wants Scandallo prices, then she should go work it at Scandallo! I agree that 800 to 1,000 reals should get the job done at Gauguin or "Scandallo Lite". If she didn't want to accept that then fuck her (or not)! Let her ass go home with nothing then. Some of these chicks are so fucking greedy, shortsighted, and stupid! Good job to walk away. But just remember. Too much pride kills!

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That evening I went to Gauguin with 3 ISGers. Had a good time and spent ~1.5 hours with two girls, eventually settling on one. We began negotiations and I began quicky losing my attraction for her. She stood up and walked away as if insulted when I offered 800r, later saying that she normally worked at Scandallo and was used to more. I then said I was aware of Scandallo prices and knew 800r was decent, but could do 1000r if she added a couple items. She insisted on 1200r and I called it, walking away. It was unfortunately a bit of a wasted night, but I had time (and pride)
[/QUOTE]One of the things that annoys me about some of these girls. They want top shelf pricing while not being on the top shelf. If you want to get paid like Scandello, get your bum ass to Scandello and put the fucking time in. Simple!!

Glad you stood your ground and didn't give in. Too many people would give in and she would continue her bullshit with others.

Great report BTW!!

Did you pay for the stinky one or report it to management at the CLínica?

[QUOTE=TheCane;3061399]While walking away is exactly what I would have done too! One of the reasons we like a place like a Gauguin is because it's supposed to offer good quality at a lower price point. If her ass wants Scandallo prices, then she should go work it at Scandallo! I agree that 800 to 1,000 reals should get the job done at Gauguin or "Scandallo Lite". If she didn't want to accept that then fuck her (or not)! Let her ass go home with nothing then. Some of these chicks are so fucking greedy, shortsighted, and stupid! Good job to walk away. But just remember. Too much pride kills![/QUOTE]This is one of the reasons why I like the clinicas since the prices are set so no haggling and the girls don't get in a bitchy mood potentially giving you lousy service if they feel they had to accept a low rate.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3061399]While walking away is exactly what I would have done too! One of the reasons we like a place like a Gauguin is because it's supposed to offer good quality at a lower price point. If her ass wants Scandallo prices, then she should go work it at Scandallo! I agree that 800 to 1,000 reals should get the job done at Gauguin or "Scandallo Lite". If she didn't want to accept that then fuck her (or not)! Let her ass go home with nothing then. Some of these chicks are so fucking greedy, shortsighted, and stupid! Good job to walk away. But just remember. Too much pride kills![/QUOTE]Oh, I agree that too much pride kills, but in this case I was getting progressively less interested in her anyway. Also, contrary to many, I've had more regrets in these situations WHEN I PAID, then when I've declined and not paid.

Yes the girls are greedy, shortsighted, etc. But I regularly remind myself that most of them are 19-25 years old and I was pretty damn dumb at that age! TBH some are impressive at business for having underdeveloped prefrontal cortexes.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3061467]One of the things that annoys me about some of these girls. They want top shelf pricing while not being on the top shelf. If you want to get paid like Scandello, get your bum ass to Scandello and put the fucking time in. Simple!!

....Did you pay for the stinky one or report it to management at the Clinica?[/QUOTE]I paid her because I didn't want an incident, but did everything in calm and complete silence. Letting her know I was not happy. The whole time I was thinking, 'if she thought she was doing me a 'favor,' then she has another thing coming as 90% of her clientele is going to be older, fatter, uglier, and ruder than me. ' . Welcome to the brothel world.

I did write out a couple paragraphs to translate (so no confusion) and immediately went to the Abbobora management. It was the bitchy older woman with glasses, but she replied that she would talk with her. I also wrote her up on Gp-[URL]Guia.net[/URL] (sp?

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Sunday: Went to A Figueira Rubaiyat, an upscale steakhouse, for lunch with a couple Brazilian friends. I highly recommend it as it has great atmosphere (huge tree in the middle) and amazing steaks. For evening Favorita #2 came over for 700r plus Ubers and stayed 2.5 hours. She's another 22 year old mother and beautician. A very light skinned mulatta with fantastic tits. The funny part was that she had gotten lip fillers on Friday and one was still a little raw so she asked for CBJ. Being a gentlemen I agreed, only asking that she deep throat as much as she could, which she did (LOL).[/QUOTE]I LOL'd at this part. Listen, You may have swollen lips but much make sure you take it to the back of the throat please and thank you hahaha.

Too bad about the smelly poor performer. I wonder if the chics breezing through SP for a quick payday are more apt for this type of rip-off? Curious about the turnover at the clinicas and if they cater to seasonal workers or not. I would imagine that 2-3 complaints get them booted out the door.

Pretty sure I met up with an ISG'er and went to the same sushi buffet in the mall a few years ago. That place is solid! Nice review per usual.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3061135]One question: do you speak fluent brasilian porto to keep the garotas entertained for great conversation with jokes, dancing, singing along to the local band, creating a party atmosphere with two or more garotas? Aint easy keeping the night shift of A+ hot garotas entertained kkk.[/QUOTE]If I don't speak any Espanol or Porto is it worth the trip? I really want to see what South America is like after spending time in Europe, Canada and Thailand but will the language barrier be that big of a deal? Should I not bother with the trip?

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;3061525]If I don't speak any Espanol or Porto is it worth the trip? I really want to see what South America is like after spending time in Europe, Canada and Thailand but will the language barrier be that big of a deal? Should I not bother with the trip?[/QUOTE]Yes, it's worth a trip. I speak no Portuguese and a little Espanol, but ultimately some girls speak a little English and you use the translation apps anyway. If you have enough of a budget (less than you'd spend at a place like Globe, more than Thailand) then you have access to some great experiences in Brazil. I'll share more on my recent trip soon, but the short of it is that Sao Paulo is worth a trip if you have a decent budget and a little experience dealing with the girls to sort through the obvious scams. There's a limited number of those, but so long as you know what you're looking for and have a stable internet connection you'll be fine. P.S. - stay at an international hotel chain like the Renaissance, use Ubers, and all's fine.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3061526]Yes, it's worth a trip. I speak no Portuguese and a little Espanol, but ultimately some girls speak a little English and you use the translation apps anyway. If you have enough of a budget (less than you'd spend at a place like Globe, more than Thailand) then you have access to some great experiences in Brazil. I'll share more on my recent trip soon, but the short of it is that Sao Paulo is worth a trip if you have a decent budget and a little experience dealing with the girls to sort through the obvious scams. There's a limited number of those, but so long as you know what you're looking for and have a stable internet connection you'll be fine. P.S. - stay at an international hotel chain like the Renaissance, use Ubers, and all's fine.[/QUOTE]Kkk yes absolutely worth it. Besides those young hot garotas are best incentive to learn porto quick kkk. I was referring to dudes trying to do scandy & guaguin "Scandallo Lite" on budget and not doing a session in house with garotas . if your on a budget. I shared my approach to doing boates on a budget and was asking about their success and How? Casarao, caster club are lower price

Paying full rate normal price no english needed. stay in International hotels, use uber, branded upscale resturants, upscale boates , clinicas , all tend to have bi-lingual speakers, the higher end nightclubs attract more english, spanish speaking garotas, well travelled in Europe, Dubai , Spain .Portugal. bonus you can bang your favorite brasilian Porno star in a clinica or love motel for reasonable rates

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;3061525]If I don't speak any Espanol or Porto is it worth the trip? I really want to see what South America is like after spending time in Europe, Canada and Thailand but will the language barrier be that big of a deal? Should I not bother with the trip?[/QUOTE]Don't over think it and just go. Many members who go to Brazil do not speak the language.

I speak a little chit-chat Portuguese. Nothing real deep. Yes, it helps with negotiating with the girls. More importantly, it will help you connect more with the girls and just the locals in general. Smile and ask the girl how she is doing. Ask her where she's from. Does she like to dance? You get the picture.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;3061525]If I don't speak any Espanol or Porto is it worth the trip? I really want to see what South America is like after spending time in Europe, Canada and Thailand but will the language barrier be that big of a deal? Should I not bother with the trip?[/QUOTE]Well do you speak Thai? If not but you probably still got through your trip there okay. If you saw my reports on my recent trip you will see that I had a pretty good time and I can barely manage Porto. I spent a few months on Duolingo so I was able to speak a couple of useful travel phrases but as soon as girls and other locals started talking, I was lost. Duolingo is not so good at teaching us to listen to conversational languages compared to speaking or reading them. But Google Translate can to the rescue and aided the communication almost effortlessly and I didn't find any of my interactions with locals hampered even though there was a language barrier. I still ordered at restos and eateries okay, got help from transit staff when needed, got through tourist attractions (even though a surprisingly alarming number of staff who work in these areas don't speak English) and enjoyed my sessions with the girls of which only one throughout my entire trip spoke any English.

The only drawback with minimal Porto is that I wouldn't be able to enjoy an extended period if I were to invite a girl overnight and / or for a day to be like a vacation girlfriend as communication totally dependent on Google Translate would be kind of crappy for that long a time period. But it was never my intention to do any wifing up on my first trip to Brazil. Having said that, if I do return to Brazil with the intention of wifing anyone up for an extended period of time that I would have to get better at Porto just to have a better connection.

So as others already mentioned, for a first trip just go and see what Brazil is all about. It is still helpful to learn some elementary Porto phrases as it is anywhere in the world with even greetings as you know then locals will be more receptive.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3061611]Well do you speak Thai? If not but you probably still got through your trip there okay. If you saw my reports on my recent trip you will see that I had a pretty good time and I can barely manage Porto. I spent a few months on Duolingo so I was able to speak a couple of useful travel phrases but as soon as girls and other locals started talking, I was lost. Duolingo is not so good at teaching us to listen to conversational languages compared to speaking or reading them. But Google Translate can to the rescue and aided the communication almost effortlessly and I didn't find any of my interactions with locals hampered even though there was a language barrier. I still ordered at restos and eateries okay, got help from transit staff when needed, got through tourist attractions (even though a surprisingly alarming number of staff who work in these areas don't speak English) and enjoyed my sessions with the girls of which only one throughout my entire trip spoke any English.

The only drawback with minimal Porto is that I wouldn't be able to enjoy an extended period if I were to invite a girl overnight and / or for a day to be like a vacation girlfriend as communication totally dependent on Google Translate would be kind of crappy for that long a time period. But it was never my intention to do any wifing up on my first trip to Brazil. Having said that, if I do return to Brazil with the intention of wifing anyone up for an extended period of time that I would have to get better at Porto just to have a better connection.

So as others already mentioned, for a first trip just go and see what Brazil is all about. It is still helpful to learn some elementary Porto phrases as it is anywhere in the world with even greetings as you know then locals will be more receptive.[/QUOTE]As others say. Don't sweat it just go. But if you do want to learn a bit I strongly suggest Pimsleur as the best starting point. Because it's all audio it's really helpful because the way Brazilian Portuguese is written is completely different from how it sounds. If you see it first you are kinda fucked. Better to learn by ear and come back later to see how it's written.

For those with some Porto under their belt (I took the 60 hrs of Pimsleur plus spent a lot of time with brasileiras) I do find Duolingo helpful at two things. Broadening vocabulary. Stuff like garfo, faca and colher. Don't need fork knife spoon to chat up a scandallo girl but comes in handy as you go there more. The other thing is they do have quite a few listening exercises and they talk very fast (but have a slow it down button). This is helpful for improving my listening skills.