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[QUOTE=Ranvir226;2971100]This is one establishment in my list, I humbly request fellow brothers to suggest a good staff. TIA.[/QUOTE]I would recommend a girl called Beam though she is there infrequently, but can be booked. Really pretty elegant girl and service can get quite wild and unrestrained if you press her right buttons.
[QUOTE=Ranvir226;2971100]This is one establishment in my list, I humbly request fellow brothers to suggest a good staff. TIA.[/QUOTE]There are many pretty girls there, one I would recommend is a girl called Beam. Beautiful natural body. Can seem a little restrained st first but gets pretty wild and uninhibited if you press her buttons.
[QUOTE=Thonglor;2973218]There are many pretty girls there, one I would recommend is a girl called Beam. Beautiful natural body. Can seem a little restrained st first but gets pretty wild and uninhibited if you press her buttons.[/QUOTE]She is in what price bracket. Thanks once again.
[QUOTE=Ranvir226;2973318]She is in what price bracket. Thanks once again.[/QUOTE]For sure she is one of the more expensive girls, 7 k up.
Obviously there are also cheaper girls many of whom are also pretty cute, I would suggest dropping by early evening and check the line and prices.
Hi Fellow Mongers.
I had done the RTFF about freelancers scene, but I didn't had much luck. Tried Hillary's, mix etc around 9 pm but didn't see any FLs. Are there any other clubs to be tried? What's the best time and good bar to find FLs? Also, any good spots for day time FLs. Of course ThaiFriendly is the way to go, but it's tedious and I hate to be indoor and do the picking!
I don't like Thermae at all!
Thanks for your suggestions!
Noey at Mango massage.
Asked for a line-up of no baby, no silicone, not fat, and got four ladies. Two I ruled out, which left Noey and some other girl. I'd rate the other girl as 7, and Noey as 6, but while the other girl was looking indifferent, Noey seemed to be smiling genuinely. Pondered for a bit, but decided to go with Noey. Before that I had visited Wonder, Smile Bangkok, and Princess massage, without seeing anyone I'd like to go with.
Name: Noey, it sounded like. Sounded like the Thai word for "tired".
Age: she said 23, no baby, no silicone. Probably all true.
Face: 6.
Body: if you like thin and small, maybe 7, but for me, too thin.
Service: 8. Happy and cheerful.
Massage skill: 8.
Price: 2200 for 60 minutes.
Procedure as normal. Upstairs together, take a shower together where she washes me. Then on to the bed where she gave me a professional grade oil massage for about 15 minutes while I'm laying on my stomach, before asking me to flip over and starting to massage my front. After a while proceeds to BJ and good rimming. After some of this I, I pull her on top and kiss her very small breasts for a while, while I get her moaning and eventually insert my dick. After a while of this she jumps off to get the condom during a change in positions, but I tell her I don't want it and enter again with her on her back.
While she's on her stomach and I'm fucking her from behind, I ask her for the KY, and then insert my thumb in her ass. She seems to take this well, and I'm thinking I'll try my dick next, but when she realizes what I'm about to do, she says cannot. I tell her I'll go slowly and she lets me try anyway however, and I push the head in gently, just holding him there, but she pulls away as I'm pushing in, while saying sorry. Flip her over on her back and try a little more more of the same, but she again says sorry, cannot. Oh well. Not important to me, but guessing if somebody really wants to spend the time to warm her properly up, it will be doable.
After I finish she goes to take a shower while I rest on the bed, then is surprised when I get up to take a shower too. She shows me some timer that still has 13 minutes left and says she will give me massage. Her massage is as said good (professional grade oil massage good), and had it been an hour I'd gladly accepted, but 10 minutes is not enough for anything, so I tell her never mind. Thinking I'll rather get back to my place and work.
After showering I tip her an extra 1000 for the genuinely good services, including at least attempting anal, which seems to genuinely shock her.
Recommended: Yeah.
Princess Massage,
Small subsoi off Sukhumvit Soi 33.
Provider Name: Catnee or something like that. She was pointed out in the line up of 9 girls, all 5's in their mid-30's and older, as "the best" at what I wanted. She had a nice smile. The only one in the brief line up that smiled. She seemed thrilled that I chose her. The others seemed disappointed and I heard mumblings about "oh, good man" as they filed back to sit outside.
Service requested: The mamasan came over to me as I passed through the soi, asked what I was looking for and I told her I didn't really care much about a massage I just wanted a BBBJCIM. "No problem", she said, "all my ladies do that. " I reiterated what I wanted just to make sure she understood. "Oh no problem, I understand and you can choose any girl in the line up for that, come inside to make your choice. ".
Price: 2,000 baht for 45 minutes was stated, to be paid upfront. I got it back before I left.
WIR? Never.
I was in the mood for one of those no-brainer, no-hassle, let them do their supposedly successful thing, go with the flow sessions I hear happens so often and easily in this and other such shops but has yet to happen for me in more than 2 dozen visits to different shops in Thailand over the years. Ultimately, I just wanted a simple BBBJCIM from a good provider without any need for me to engage in any additional negotiations, conversation or unnecessary buzzkill. I wasn't in the mood for any of the latter. I never even mentioned a "swallow" at the finish with the mamasan or the girl. If that happened, fine, if it didn't, fine.
I also wasn't in the mood for the hassle of negotiating my generally preferred BBFSCIP. Actually, I wasn't particularly turned on by the idea of that with any of their ladies anyway. Just a simple BBBJCIM is all I wanted, asked for and expected for the money. I was willing to part with the stated rate of 2000 baht to get that with a pleasant, no-hassle, good provider of the service.
Typical routine in the room; ongoing pleasant chat, smiles, giggles and chemistry-building that started on the stairway to the room, get undressed, in the shower a capful shot of mouthwash for both of us, shower together, her washing me nicely, mild stroking and kissing, dry off, on the bed, about 2 minutes of back massage, asked me to flip over, mild chest kissing, began to give me a blowjob.
That opening 1 minute of the blowjob felt pretty good. The kid was up, ready and strong enough to drive a nail or two into a pine plank. Then she moved away, reached for a packaged condom and said in her very limited English, "Want boom boom? 2000 baht more."
I told her I like boom boom but I am an old man and cannot do it and finish with a condom, I am ok with this blowjob, but thanks anyway.
I did not counter with any offer of what I would pay her for BBFSCIP because I really wasn't interested in that with her at any price. Just wanted my simple no-hassle BBBJCIM.
She went back to kissing and licking my balls, kissing, licking and sucking my dick and 30 seconds later, out came the bad news: "No can cum inside mouth, can finish only with hand job and you cum on my tits and stomach, ok?
Uh. No. The mamasan said it was CIM.
"No, cannot. Only hand job finish."
We went back and forth a little bit just to make sure there hadn't been some confusion or misunderstanding due to language issues. Nope. No confusion or misunderstanding about it. I sat up, said this is over, showered off the kid again, got dressed and went downstairs to complain to the manasan and request my money back.
Much balking and lying by the mamasan. "Oh, no, can not cum inside mouth. Only hand job finish. "
Then you lied to me about it outside and when I chose the girl, I told her, I want a refund please.
"You choose another lady"?
No, I said, I don't trust you to tell me the truth about any of these ladies and don't trust the ladies either. This is a bullshit business.
Then the girl said something in Thai to the mamasan that I did not understand. After that the mamasan was stuck on the idea that I had pushed for sex with no condom. "Cannot have sex without condom!
I assume she was only referring to FS without condom. I don't really know or care.
I reminded her that my request was for a BBBJCIM and that she said no problem. Twice. That is all I wanted, asked for and expected. Nobody can CIM wearing a condom. And that if she had said anything about a hand job or hand job finish only I would have walked away outside and never come into her shop. I smiled and told her that I have hands and can reach myself with either one, I don't pay ladies to give me a handjob and I would like my money back please.
That is when I noticed my two 1000 baht notes were still laying on the counter between us. That is how soon I aborted that bullshit session. Or does she always leave the money on the counter in front of her all during the sessions because the rate of refunds for crap service is so common and predictable? This Is Thailand, anything is possible.
I pointed to the money and said, that is for me, right? She grunted and nodded yes, said "take it and go. " Which I did. But before walking out I handed the girl 100 baht for the shower, 2 minute back massage and 3 minute BBBJ foreplay.
I rode my bike back to my apartment with a fresh new appreciation for my lovely young live-in girlfriend, who is out of the country for a couple of weeks.
Recommend the Shop or Provider?
Absolutely not. As the super-hassle, super-buzzkilling exchange went on and on with the mamasan I promised her I would tell every punter I know to avoid the place. This report is fullfilling part of that promise.
Of course, as always, YMMV.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2973981]Princess Massage,
Small subsoi off Sukhumvit Soi 33.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the warning.
IMHO, what you were offered was just masturbation with bells and whistles.
Glad you got your money back.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2973981]Princess Massage,
Small subsoi off Sukhumvit Soi 33.
That opening 1 minute of the blowjob felt pretty good. The kid was up, ready and strong enough to drive a nail or two into a pine plank. Then she moved away, reached for a packaged condom and said in her very limited English, "Want boom boom? 2000 baht more.".[/QUOTE]To me that was a misunderstanding. Princes is on of the 4 or 5 shops that have a peculiar Business Model: You pay based on duration at the counter (2000 to 3500) and negotiate BBFS, usually for THB 2000, in the room with the "expert".
[QUOTE=MomoFarang;2974150]To me that was a misunderstanding. Princes is on of the 4 or 5 shops that have a peculiar Business Model: You pay based on duration at the counter (2000 to 3500) and negotiate BBFS, usually for THB 2000, in the room with the "expert".[/QUOTE]I have no idea where it would have gone with the lady in my room had I countered with an offer of 500 baht or 10,000 baht for BBFSCIP vs her offer of "2000 more for boom boom, must wear condom" because I didn't make a counter offer. And the reason I didn't make any counter offer is because I wasn't interested in fucking her even if it had been for free. Seriously. Neither she nor any of the other girls in the line up that night caught my fancy that way.
I only asked for and wanted a simple BBBJCIM, made that very clear more than once with the fairly English-fluent mamasan, she assured me more than once that she was very clear about what I wanted and would pay for. Since none of the girls in the line up was a standout over what I would rate a 5, I asked the mamasan to recommend the one she thinks is the best at what I wanted and I went with her recommendation.
Nor did I ask for or even mention an interest in getting BBFSCIP with any of the ladies there in my conversation with the mamasan.
In the room there was no misunderstanding at all.
Once the lady realized I was not going to accept her offer to "boom boom without condom, 2000 baht more" or counter with any other offer and that it was now time to proceed with the blowjob with CIM finish I had paid for, I assure you there was absolutely no confusion or misunderstanding about her position on it in either of our minds; BBBJCIM was NOT going to happen, she was not going to proceed with so much as one more stroke with her mouth attached to my dick if I in any way, shape or form expected to Cum Inside her Mouth, she was only going to proceed as long as God, me and everyone else in the universe understood her mouth would be on the other side of the room behind an umbrella before my first spurt of cum traveled the length of my dick to make its way out of my urethra and that is the end of the story, period, it ain't going to happen now or ever, not for any amount of money.
And out in the lobby, the mamasan was very clear that she understood every nuance and meaning of every aspect of the aborted session that took place as well.
LOL. I was married to a Bkk-born and raised Thai lady for over a decade, have lived in Thailand for 12 years, am ok with some basic Thai language and have probably fucked and / or been blown by at least 2000 different Thai women just since I moved here and not counting when I was coming here dozens of times decades ago as a tourist punter.
I am positive there was no confusion or misunderstanding about that session or what the mamasan was trying to pull. She did not want to admit she bullshitted me into agreeing to pay the 2000 baht upfront for something even she suspected would not happen for me with that lady she recommended and if it all went badly, which it did, her expectation was that I would be "too nice" to complain and just go away quietly.
But she was wrong, that's all.
Of course, I also can't know how it "works" with other girls in that shop, for different customers, for different customers with that particular lady or if there had been a different mamasan on duty. I can only know how it went for me. And I will not be returning to find out what is or isn't true about any of the other 5's I saw in the shop.
Anyone know if you book 120 minutes full service, does that include 2 shots?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2973981]Princess Massage,
Small subsoi off Sukhumvit Soi 33.
...
Recommend the Shop or Provider?
Absolutely not. As the super-hassle, super-buzzkilling exchange went on and on with the mamasan I promised her I would tell every punter I know to avoid the place. This report is fullfilling part of that promise.
Of course, as always, YMMV.[/QUOTE]Well, I'm not going to be recommending that shop anymore then, that's for sure. Not sure what "course" you paid 2000 for, as I was told 1600/ hour is the BJ-only course.
My experience was different, with me paying for FS, and the girl in the room not wanting no-condom. Up to her of course, as nobody can demand that out of the blue, and the girl was young, cute, and friendly. At the moment I was not in the mood for covered sex however, so settled for a BJ and CIM without any problems. Her name was Cookie BTW, and I'd probably repeat with her, even with the insistence of condom, had I been staying longer.
Will also make a point out of mentioning your review to them next time I visit, and if I do select BJ-only, will make sure to double-check with the girl about this before going up.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2974451]Well, I'm not going to be recommending that shop anymore then, that's for sure. Not sure what "course" you paid 2000 for, as I was told 1600/ hour is the BJ-only course.
My experience was different, with me paying for FS, and the girl in the room not wanting no-condom. Up to her of course, as nobody can demand that out of the blue, and the girl was young, cute, and friendly. At the moment I was not in the mood for covered sex however, so settled for a BJ and CIM without any problems. Her name was Cookie BTW, and I'd probably repeat with her, even with the insistence of condom, had I been staying longer.
Will also make a point out of mentioning your review to them next time I visit, and if I do select BJ-only, will make sure to double-check with the girl about this before going up.[/QUOTE]I dropped by there yesterday evening. Fortunately the mamasan / manager on duty, a small girl with glasses, around 25 yo, remembered me from taking a girl there a few days before, so she also knew I was not there to just waste time.
I asked about the BJ-course priced at 1600, and wanted to know if that included CIM. She said CIM was 500 extra, to which I oh-ed, as I did not know that. She was getting ready to fetch the line-up, when I told her to wait a little, and told that a farang had a bad experience here some days ago, and then told her about EihTooms experience. She said she would ask the girls to make sure for me, and then I told her this guy, who wrote a review about it, had also asked mamasan before to make sure, but he still got a problem in the room. She asked if he had asked her, the glasses-girl, and said she did not think he had asked her. I said I was not sure who it was, but he had asked the mamasan working here that time to be sure about finish in mouth, and still got problem in the room. I worried I would get the same problem. She said sorry about that, and she would make sure to ask girl to be sure.
So, nothing interesting really. And if it's supposed to be 500 extra for CIM, that's double of BJ-bars, so not something I'm going to recommend anymore. To be honest, I had not considered that a "bj-course" could exclude finishing with a BJ too.
I then said never mind, I wanted the FS deal, and she said ok, she will bring in the line-up, and it's extra if no condom, "but you already know that, right?" Well, no, I did not really know that. She made it sound like it was something that could be arranged when booking (bring in only "no-condom ok" girls? Rather than "what will be, will be" in the room. Possibly there would be another extra-extra surcharge for not finishing with a HJ there also. Who knows.
She then brought in the line-up (no silicone, no baby, not fat), but there were only two. Didn't see anyone I liked much, though later on I thought who I ended up with at another place nearby, 15 minutes later, was possibly slightly inferior to the one girl I did consider here. That experience ended up being slightly more interesting to me than average for other reasons however.
I've had soapy in Bangkok twice and oily once plus a quasi nuru in Toronto once. * For me, the body to body massage experience is a real nice one and although I wouldn't want it all the time, I think it's a special extra experience to have every now and then. * However based on my very limited experience, I don't see the justification of the usual higher price premium for nuru. * I realize the nuru gel itself takes more prep than either the soapy or oil and maybe that's why the extra cost. * But as far as what you get with the girls, so far all three are similar body to body techniques and resulting experience at least from what I've experienced so far. * If done right, all three types of materials along with the girls applying it will be warm and slippery. * So my question to all the vets of these types of body to body massages, is it worth the extra premium for nuru compared to especially soapy?
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2974749]I dropped by there yesterday evening. Fortunately the mamasan / manager on duty, a small girl with glasses, around 25 yo, remembered me from taking a girl there a few days before, so she also knew I was not there to just waste time.
I asked about the BJ-course priced at 1600, and wanted to know if that included CIM. She said CIM was 500 extra, to which I oh-ed, as I did not know that. She was getting ready to fetch the line-up, when I told her to wait a little, and told that a farang had a bad experience here some days ago, and then told her about EihTooms experience. She said she would ask the girls to make sure for me, and then I told her this guy, who wrote a review about it, had also asked mamasan before to make sure, but he still got a problem in the room. She asked if he had asked her, the glasses-girl, and said she did not think he had asked her. I said I was not sure who it was, but he had asked the mamasan working here that time to be sure about finish in mouth, and still got problem in the room. I worried I would get the same problem. She said sorry about that, and she would make sure to ask girl to be sure.
So, nothing interesting really. And if it's supposed to be 500 extra for CIM, that's double of BJ-bars, so not something I'm going to recommend anymore. To be honest, I had not considered that a "bj-course" could exclude finishing with a BJ too..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. The mamasan I met was much older than 25, probably at least late 30's, short, chunky, dark skin, no glasses that I recall.
I don't exactly know which course I was supposed to have gotten. Outside, the mamasan pointed to an option on the menu that was 2,000 baht for 45 minutes, she said including shower, massage and BJ. Like you, I would have assumed that meant a BBBJCIM, but no matter, I specified CIM anyway whether it said so somewhere on the menu or not. And to that the mamasan said "yes, all the girls do that. " No mention of a 500 baht CIM surcharge by her or the lady's I chose.
Then I repeated that part of it when we sat down in the lobby, she assured me it would include CIM and then I asked her to recommend the girl in the lineup that was the best at what I wanted. After I chose her recommended lady she spoke in Thai with her for a moment. That is when I assumed she was telling her what the course was supposed to include.
In the room, that girl never mentioned anything about a 500 baht surcharge for CIM or any surcharge for No Condom with FS. She only wanted me to understand she was not going to do that, no alternative, end of story.
Out in the lobby during the complaint / refund request discussion, the mamasan acted like there was no such thing as a BBBJ with a "CIM" finish or FS "without condom" with any ladies anywhere in Thailand much less with any ladies in her shop. LOL.
She literally said, "no, cannot" every way possible when I reminded her the CIM finish was our agreement.
And the only reason I know she also held the same "no, cannot" position on FS No Condom is because of whatever the lady the mamasan recommended said to her in Thai. So she repeatedly assured me that never happens anywhere in Thailand either and certainly not with any of the ladies in her shop.
Whatever.
Again, as usual; YMMV.