Kyiv

[QUOTE=YummyPL;2479049]This site really is getting to be more like Trip Advisor than ISG..[/QUOTE]Sometimes you do need a combination of Trip Advisor, Linkedin and the latest news updates to try and figure out just what the hell is going on here, which is not always easy for the majority of mongers.

Glad you are having a sensational time!

Originally Posted by UkeBoy View Original Post.

Seems that there is a new theory about the foreign tourist inbound shutdown. September / early October is the time for the annual celebration of the Jewish Rosh Hashanah holiday. Every year more than 30,000 Hasisdim come to Ukraine to visit the grave of their spiritual founder in Uman, Ukraine. It is believed this shutdown is designed to keep them out, or as many as possible and this was also at the request of the Israeli authorities. This year the holiday is from September 18 to September 20. This was done to keep them from spreading the virus further in Ukraine. By making this a total foreigner lock down, the government could not be totally accused of discrimination.

They had this in mind as well with the ones who managed to get to Uman. [URL]https://www.timesofisrael.com/locals-clash-with-hassidic-jews-trying-to-reach-pilgrimage-site-in-uman-ukraine/[/URL].

[QUOTE=PhotoSlider;2478917]What is considered "treatment"?

Can I come in because of my back pain? Or for colonoscopy? Or because I have migraines? Or for an extensive diagnostics that forces me to spend 90 days in Ukraine with a team of nurses, therapists and maids assigned on a 24 x7 basis?

There are so many health conditions that are not contagious, and cannot be checked by the airport immigration officers.

Would it require a special type of visa? I suppose one cannot say at the border that he arrived as a tourist. Then what sort of regulations apply?[/QUOTE]Certainly it's a loophole. This region of the country is famous for medical tourism: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakarpattia_Oblast[/URL].

Other than that it's clear that they mean corroborated, ongoing cases with likely paperwork, mostly for injuries, rehabilitation, surgeries etc.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2479121]Originally Posted by UkeBoy View Original Post.

Seems that there is a new theory about the foreign tourist inbound shutdown. September / early October is the time for the annual celebration of the Jewish Rosh Hashanah holiday. Every year more than 30,000 Hasisdim come to Ukraine to visit the grave of their spiritual founder in Uman, Ukraine. It is believed this shutdown is designed to keep them out, or as many as possible and this was also at the request of the Israeli authorities. This year the holiday is from September 18 to September 20. This was done to keep them from spreading the virus further in Ukraine. By making this a total foreigner lock down, the government could not be totally accused of discrimination.

They had this in mind as well with the ones who managed to get to Uman. [URL]https://www.timesofisrael.com/locals-clash-with-hassidic-jews-trying-to-reach-pilgrimage-site-in-uman-ukraine/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Israel had more than 2,000 new cases only in the last day, so it has nothing to do with discrimination, especially knowing the President's heritage.

OK, for those of you who DO NOT like tight bodied, pretty, enthusiastic, skilled, and "well mannered", young 21 year old girls, then maybe she wasn't very good. But for those of you that are actually sane, SA#5 was fantastic.

These girls are blowing my FKK experiences out of the water.

I commented to a couple of my friends here: I think I must have contracted COVID-19 a couple of months ago, because I am almost certain I have died and gone to heaven.

[QUOTE=YummyPL;2479563]OK, for those of you who DO NOT like tight bodied, pretty, enthusiastic, skilled, and "well mannered", young 21 year old girls, then maybe she wasn't very good. But for those of you that are actually sane, SA#5 was fantastic.

These girls are blowing my FKK experiences out of the water.

I commented to a couple of my friends here: I think I must have contracted COVID-19 a couple of months ago, because I am almost certain I have died and gone to heaven.[/QUOTE]What is the price of such girl?

Talked to YummyPL yesterday. Don't worry guys, he didn't die from covid, though he did apparently arrive in heaven.

[QUOTE=YummyPL;2479563]OK, for those of you who DO NOT like tight bodied, pretty, enthusiastic, skilled, and "well mannered", young 21 year old girls, then maybe she wasn't very good. But for those of you that are actually sane, SA#5 was fantastic.

These girls are blowing my FKK experiences out of the water.

I commented to a couple of my friends here: I think I must have contracted COVID-19 a couple of months ago, because I am almost certain I have died and gone to heaven.[/QUOTE]I'm kinda new to the Ukraine scene here, what does this #SA5 refer to? Very happy to join this community!

That's not fair! I'm left here on earth.

Saw SA#6 today. Nice. Outstanding kisser. Cute face, mediocre body (big butt and some extra padding but some people like that), waaay too professional for my taste. 24 years old and has been doing it since she was 17. Said she got paid $4,000 for her virginity and has been a working girl since. Very bright and seems to be putting together a good future for herself. Won't repeat but an overall enjoyable but a bit strange experience. Can provide more details to anyone interested by PM.

I should be in Kiev now, I had my tickets for 23 August, I had to pospose one week for personal reaons and now border is closed, and maybe they don't open again for months,. Life is a shit.

[QUOTE=YummyPL;2479755]Saw SA#6 today. Nice. [/QUOTE]SA has links to individual girls. How about posting one?

I'm a fan of SA in the states, but never used it in Ukraine. The few times I chatted with supposedly Kiev girls, I could tell it was a booker.

I've checked out [URL]VK.com[/URL] for a while and it seems that it was a really convenient way for girls to get acquainted with clients, and vice versa. But, it seems that around 2017 many girls stopped to use it. And now, since it's banned on Ukraine, only few use it with VPN.

So. I did some googling and it appears that Instagram and Facebook became the new standard. At Instagram you can send direct messages, but nobody will probably read them or at least not bother to answer them. And it's more or less a shot in the dark, unless the IG profile is gained through some other way.

How about Facebook? I don't use it and it didn't allow me to create a fake account, but is there groups which people use to seek this kind of company? Lack of anonymity 'might' hinder it a bit.

And then there's the Mamba and Tinder, which seems to have girls who prefer 200-250 euros for an hour or two, which is ridiculous. But somebody pays that, since they keep asking for it.

BTW, have you noticed that when you meet a good girl. Good in bed and nice in personality. You don't want to share her, but those that you don't care about, you are willing to pass on to others as well? I'm puzzled by this jealousy, since it would be for the good of the girl to have more clients whom are nice, and thus she would be thankful for the guy who did this, but instead of thinking about her good the feeling of "I don't want others to have her, she is my precious ( Maybe I'll lose her if others have her? Is much more powerful. And why is that? They are paid for their interest and behaviour, but it's almost like one wants to believe in the illusion of it, and acts in a way that is familiar from regular relationships.

I have two regulars, one for 1,5 years and another one for bit less than a year. I wouldn't share their contacts with anyone, since I apparently keep them as 'meaningful' for myself. And yet, at any given day, they could end it without a blink. Life is strange.

[QUOTE=Riina;2479866]SA has links to individual girls. How about posting one?

I'm a fan of SA in the states, but never used it in Ukraine. The few times I chatted with supposedly Kiev girls, I could tell it was a booker.[/QUOTE]Is it worth signing up for SA premium before I head over to make connections in Kyiv? I heard someone did this and did well for themselves.

Given the border may be locked down long term it may be risky but I am wondering how good SA is in Kyiv for Pros and Non Pros.

[QUOTE=Desin;2479951]How about Facebook? [/QUOTE]Stay away from soliciting on a girl's legitimate social media. Most of the time your unwanted messages are an insult.