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[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1356750]Hello, in your opinion are more beautiful thai or Cambodian girls?[/QUOTE]Are you familiar with Bell Curves and the properties of a normal distribution? Oh well, it does not matter. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but most punters would agree that on average Thai girls are better looking than Cambodian girls. In statistical terms, the mean of the Thai good looking girl distribution is to the right of the mean of the Cambodian good looking girl distribution. Furthermore there are many more Thai girls available to choose from which means there are more girls on every level of looks 1* to 10* in Thailand. This does not mean, however, that there are not a whole lot of sexy Cambodian girls and that some are far prettier than the average Thai working girls. The point I am trying to make is: you can find good looking women in both countries, but you should probably go to Thailand first. There are a ton more girls in BKK and Pattaya then in Phnom Penh and so it is easier to hook up with them although Cambodia is cheaper. I suggest you make your bones in Thailand first then, if you want to try something a little different, go to Cambodia.

Bell Curve, Normal Distribution Defined.

Definition: The term bell curve is used to describe the mathematical concept called normal distribution, sometimes referred to as Gaussian distribution. 'Bell curve' refers to the shape that is created when a line is plotted using the data points for an item that meets the criteria of 'normal distribution'. The center contains the greatest number of a value and therefore would be the highest point on the arc of the line. This point is referred to the mean, but in simple terms it is the highest number of occurrences of an element. (statistical terms, the mode). The important thing to note about a normal distribution is the curve is concentrated in the center and decreases on either side. This is significant in that the data has less of a tendency to produce unusually extreme values, called outliers, as compared to other distributions. Also the bell curve signifies that the data is symmetrical and thus we can create reasonable expectations as to the possibility that an outcome will lie within a range to the left or right of the center, once we can measure the amount of deviation contained in the data. These are measured in terms of standard deviations. A bell curve graph depends on two factors, the mean and the standard deviation. The mean identifies the position of the center and the standard deviation determines the height and width of the bell. For example, a large standard deviation creates a bell that is short and wide while a small standard deviation creates a tall and narrow curve.

To understand the probability factors of a normal distribution you need to understand the following 'rules':

The total area under the curve is equal to 1 (100%)

2. About 68% of the area under the curve falls within 1 standard deviation.

3. About 95% of the area under the curve falls within 2 standard deviations.

4 About 99. 7% of the area under the curve falls within 3 standard devations.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1356793]Maybe you never went to Cambodia.[/QUOTE]And maybe I am a ladyboy. Go back and read some of my trip reports on Siem Reap and Phnom Penh. Oops, they seem to be missing. Ok I keep copies.

4 days and 4 nights in Phnom Penh (March 2009)

Night 1:

Arrived on an early morning flight from Siem Reap. After I checked in at my hotel I got a tuk tuk driver (who became my personal driver day and night) and checked out the main tourist stuff – National Museum (must see) , Royal Palace (nice but not as good as BKK) and Silver Pagoda (ditto). It gets real hot in Phnom Penh, so around 3pm I had had enough and relaxed by the hotel pool with a mango smoothie.

Around 7pm I went off for a nice dinner a Khmer Borane. It's a nice restaurant with good local food on the riverfront. Over dinner I mapped my strategy and decided I would begin my night time diversions on 104 St. My tuk tuk guy dropped me off around 9pm and I told him to wait for me at the end of the street. I walked the up & and down 104st checking out the 10 – 20 bars. I looked in at onezerofour bar and saw only girls. They seemed friendly enough but since it was my first night in town, I preferred a bar with some other gringos in it.

I walked into Zanzibar a few doors down. A pretty bartendress greeted me with a big smile and I remember thinking she wouldn't be bad to take home. Some other girls approached me but I shooed them away. I like to get the lay of the land before I commit to anything. Two other customers sat at the bar with 2-3 girls attending to their needs. I got a beer and sat down at a table against the wall to check the place out. Zanzibar is a small cozy bar. There must have been around 20 hostess girls and 70's rock was playing not too loud on the speakers. I liked the place from the get go. I saw one girl I thought was pretty and asked her if I could buy her a drink. She sat down and we talked the usual talk. Her girlfriend approached and she wasn't too bad either so I offered her a drink as well. After a while the pretty girl asks me if I would like to see her perform a temple dance. I said sure so both girls got up and started their little temple dance right in front of me, you know, with the hand and face movement. This was so cute and charming. I thought, so this is the Cambodian version of a geisha girl entertaining her client. It was really fetching. Then over at the bar 3 other girls got on top of the bar and started temple dancing for their customers. Now compare this to the bullshit movie 'Coyote Ugly', where in the movie the babes dance aggressively on the bar while 100 horney, frustrated men go nuts. The men in the movie can't touch the girls let alone lay them. And that is what Hollywood thinks is sexy. I think it is uptight and repressive. I thought how lucky I was to be in Phnom Penh.

As I was finishing my beer, I asked the pretty girl, Tar, if we could go somewhere to be alone. She said sure. I asked how much. She said $20. Getty up! The hotel was very close by and clean. We started kissing and undressing and ended up in the shower. In the shower she gave me the usual dick, balls, ass cleaning while I kissed her, washed her pretty little tities and bumped her with my now hard cock. We dried off and continued the action in the bed. Lottsa of kissing and hugging followed up with a bare BJ. I knew it wasn't going to be long before I came, so I told Tar to put the condom on. Then we started to fuck. Tar was real sweet and her pussy felt fine. After I came we continued to cuddle. I suggested we take another shower. All clean and back in bed, Tar started to massage my feet, and then started working her way up my legs. When she got to the crotch, she gave me another blow job. Real nice! And this time she got on top. The 2nd lay was a lot longer than the first, and I let her do most of the work. I liked watching this pretty little Khmer girl go up and down on my dick. She had small round breasts. I sat up while still inside her and started kissing and fondling those pretty little breasts. It was a very nice affectionate lay. I am not naive or anything but it felt real good and real tender. A GFE moment.

The night before I had a pretty wild time at Sak San in Siem Reap (3 showers. 3 naked BJ's and 3 fucks) so even though this girl was delightful and more than willing to keep it going, we snuggled after the 2nd time and I suggested we go back to the bar. So arm in arm we made our way back to Zanzibar. When we walked in, all the girls welcomed us back, jubilantly. It was charming and I felt totally at home in this place. I bought some drinks for Tar, myself, her girlfriend, and the smiling cute bartendress. My girl stayed close to me the rest of the evening hugging me and occasionally touching my crouch. Around 12:30 I kissed her goodbye and a little reluctantly left. I told Tar she was a really nice girl, I really liked her, and I would see her again. We kissed. Oh yeah, back at the hotel I gave her a $8 tip.

Outside I found my trusted tuk tuk driver. He was sleeping in his vehicle. I woke him up saying 'a fine kettle of fish. Sleeping on the job again. ' He asked me where I wanted to go. I thought about it a minute and said let's go to Martini's. So off we went to the other side of town. It's not that I wanted more action. It was just that I was on a natural high and did not want to go back to the hotel and sleep.

We got to Martini's around 1am. As I entered the guy at the front door padded me down. I guess some gringos come to Martini's with weapons. Anyway, I entered the club. They have a large garden area with lots of tables and there was an interesting mix of people – local dudes, gringos and girls. No one hit on me, so I after I got a beer I walked around the place, checking things out. There were a couple of tables with 3-4 girls sitting alone together. I noticed a tall skinny girl standing alone and guessed she was Vietnamese. (Actually it was obvious she wasn't a Khmer girl). I asked her if she wanted a drink. She said yes so we sat down together. She had a nice personality, but I soon realized she was not my type. TOO THIN! She had ordered dinner before I approached her, so when the waiter brought it, I stayed and continued our conversation for a little bit, but then got up and excused myself. I said I was tired and maybe we would see each other another night.

I walked around the garden another time and checked out the disco. The disco was pitch black except for an occasional strobe light effect. The music was loud techno crap and I saw a lot of couples dancing to it. I could see that there were also some single girls in there, but it was impossible to tell if they were pretty or not. I lasted about 2 minutes before I left. Back outside in the beer garden, I walked around the area to see if there was any talent I might be interested in for the next night. Nobody really stood out, but I think I saw a couple girls that might be condom worthy. The 2nd time I walked around the area, some of the girls sitting at the tables started to show signs that they noticed me. It was around 1:45 so I left. I found my loyal tuk tuk guy waiting for me and I said let's go to back to my hotel.

All in all it was a great evening. Zanzibar was a small, intimate, cozy bar where everybody made me feel right at home. In fact home was never as good as Zanzibar. Very Very Nice Girls. Martini's was a much larger place and I have nothing bad to say about it except that it's a long way to go and the disco kind of sucked. But the beer garden was fine and if I had sufficient 'power' left, I am sure I could have hooked up with a nice Khmer girl.

Conclusion Zanzibar:

Ambiance 9. 5 – a great little bar. I loved the temple dancing, sweet, little girls.

Selection of girls 8 – they had what I was looking for in little Tar.

Tar – a real lovely little girl. 22 years old. Face 8. Body 8. Sex 9. I had I real friendly, lovely time with her. As I dozed off into dreamland back at my hotel, I wondered if I would find the time to get back to Zanzibar. I knew I wanted to, but I only had 3 more nights. I had not checked out any of the other bars on 104 St. Let alone the scene on Pasteur St.

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4 days and 4 nights in Phnom Penh (March 2009)

Night 2:

I started the day with with usual tourist stuff: breakfast at a French coffee shop on 240st, a visit to what Phnom, and then a friendly visit to Boeng Kak Lake (little Amsterdam). After Boeng Kak Lake, I wandered around the river front and had lunch. By 3pm I was soaked with perspiration and a little tired so I retired to the hotel swimming pool to cool down and rest up for the night time action.

After a good dinner at Khmer Surin, I decided to return to 104st. It would have been a no brainer to go back to Zanzibar and hook up with the delightful Tar, but where is the adventure in that? So I decided to try out a different bar first and keep Zanzibar as a backup. So it was around 8:30 when I walked into Rose Bar directly opposite Zanzibar. Rose Bar is very similar to Zanzibar only slightly bigger. They have a pool room in the back and a couple of rooms on the 2nd floor. I sat down at the bar, got a beer, and looked around the place. Sitting at a table against the wall was a cute little girl with her hair combed back tight against her head. She looked good and I was about to make a move when a very pretty girl walked past me towards the pool room and broke my concentration. I drank my beer and decided to check out the pool room. As I entered the pool room, pretty girl was sitting alone at a table and 2 other attractive girls where playing pool. One of the girls asked if I wanted to play pool. I said I would prefer to just watch.

I smiled over at pretty girl, but she did not smile back! 'That's strange, ' I thought, and I did not approach her. A few minutes passed by as I drank my beer and watched the girls play pool. The cute girl with the combed back hair came into the room and gave me a real friendly smile, so I asked her to sit down and have a drink. The cute girl's name was Tava. She could not have weighed more than 87lbs. We started talking and I liked her. Occasionally, I glanced over at pretty girl who was sitting alone. I asked Tava what was up with pretty girl and Tava said 'Oh, she doesn't speak English and she is shy. ' So I asked Tava to ask pretty girl if she wanted to join us and have a drink. Pretty girl's face broke out into a big smile when Tava relayed my invitation, and pretty girl came over to my table.

So things were progressing nicely, but I could not decide on which girl to get it on with. Pretty girl was a looker (face = 8) , but she spoke no English and seemed a little reserve. Tava on the other hand was very attractive and had a great personality. So Tava seemed like the way to go, but then it hit me, why not ask both girls out. Ménage à trois! Tava liked the idea and pretty girl gave me another smile when she understood my invitation. But first things first: I asked Tava how much she would want for this arrangement. Tava said 'whatever I thought was right, ' but pretty girl insisted on $25. I told pretty girl $20 was the going rate, but she would not budge. Now this was a 'tell', a sign that something was not quite right with pretty girl. But I was sold on the ménage idea and I did not want to kill the mood by haggling over $5. In retrospect, I probably should have told pretty girl to forget it and left with Tava. But then I would not have this story to tell and the evening would have turned out completely different.

Tava said we could go to a hotel close by or go upstairs. The room upstairs was a couple dollars more and since I was already in for $50, I said let's splurge and go upstairs. Walking up the stairs I was really looking forward to this and thought I would ravage pretty girl first and then take turns going back and forth between both girls. But in the room, the situation completely changed in an unpredictable yet enjoyable way. Tava and I started taking our clothes off right away, but pretty girl undressed very slowly. Tava and I jumped into the shower and I was amazed by her perfect little body! In her size and weight class, Tava was a 9. 5 with perfect little 'A' cup tittes, perfectly proportioned ass, and absolutely no body fat. I fell in love with her little body! We started the soapy shower massage thing. She soaped me up and washed my dick, balls and ass while I washed her breasts and, kissed her all over. But where the hell was pretty girl? I jumped out of the shower went into the bedroom with my erection leading the way. Pretty girl was still dawdling about. I said 'come on girl, let's get going, we're having a good time in the shower. ' Then I rejoined Tava and forgot about pretty girl. All clean and ready for love, Tava and I dried off and got on the bed. That's when pretty girl went into the bathroom to take a shower. But I did not care. Tava and I made out pretty passionately for a while until she moved down and gave me a naked BJ.

At this point, pretty girl joined us on the bed wrapped up in a towel. I sat up and started kissing pretty girl and said we don't need this anymore, referring to the towel as I removed it. Then surprise, surprise! Pretty girl had lousy tits. I mean real saggy ones with brown nipples. Ugh! Her tits were around a 3 and that is being kind. But she was a good kisser and Tava was still blowing me, so what the hell. Soon I felt that things were going to erupt so I told Tava to put the condom on. Then I kissed Tava and rolled her over on her back and after a little preliminary kissing began to enter her pussy. Her pussy was fantastic, a perfect fit. It was tight and yet soft at the same time. I rate her pussy a 9. 5.

We were only beginning to get it on when pretty girl climbed on top of me and started humping me. Pretty girl was the locomotion, I was the cream filling, and Tava was the object of my desire. When pretty girl pressed down on me, I went deep into Tava. When pretty girl let up, I moved partially out of Tava. Pretty girl set the pace. I don't know how long this went on – 10 to 15 minutes I guess, when I decided it was now pretty girl's turn to get some. I pulled out of Tava and told pretty girl to lie down. Pretty girl lied down, but when I started to mount her, she objected. She told Tava that in order for me to fuck her I had to change condoms. I laughed and said 'you got to be kidding. We don't need to change condoms. You guys are sisters. One condom is fine. ' But pretty girl would not give in. Now as everybody who is reading this report knows, pulling a condom off an erect penis is no laughing matter. So I told pretty girl to forget it and jumped back into Tava (which is where I wanted to be anyway). Pretty girl then got back on me and we continued our Cambodian Oreo cookie.

Eventually I exploded and rolled over on my side. Tava and I started kissing and pretty girl lay down on my other side, kissing my neck and shoulders. Tava cleaned me up and started massaging my dick. I started kissing pretty girl, but avoided her tits. And Lord above, it was not too long before I started to get hard again. Tava and I ran back into the shower to get all clean while pretty girl stayed behind. When we came out both girls dried me off and now pretty girl started to give some decent uncovered head. Soon I told her to put on a fresh condom and I started fucking pretty girl sidewinder style so that I was on a diagonal and could kiss Tava and her beautiful little breasts at the same time. In all fairness, pretty girl was not a bad lay. Once we got going, her attitude was ok and her pussy was fine. She could not help it if she had lousy tits, probably the result of nursing a kid or two. Thing was, she knew she had bad tits. That's why she was shy about getting in the shower with us. And that's why she wanted $25 not $20. She knew from bitter experience, that once a guy saw those hooters, tips were far and few between and repeat business nonexistent. So the $25 was like a standard charge plus an upfront tip. It was a little disingenuous on her part, but what's a working girl supposed to do? I wasn't too put out by it. If I hadn't agreed to it I would have regretted not doing her. At least this way – no regrets.

After my 2nd orgasm, I layed on my back and fairly well spent. But both girls were not through with me yet. They started to massage my feet. Pretty girl started with my left foot, Tava with my right foot. Slowly, both girls worked their way up my legs till they got to my cock. Tava and I took another little shower and then she went down on me again. I was now ready for round #3. This time Tava got on top and slowly inserted my cock into her little hole. It was great! Meanwhile pretty girl lay alongside me and started kissing my nipples, neck, and ear. I don't know how much time elapsed. I was unaware of time. But eventually I came and together all three of us lay side by side exhausted.

Like ALL my other Cambodian experiences, it was me, not the girl (s) who finally called it a night. I was definitely out of 'power. ' We slowly dressed and I asked just for fun how much the girls really wanted. Pretty girl repeated she wanted $25, Tava again said she whatever I thought was right. I gave both of them $25 and then as we left the room I held Tava back and gave her an extra $8. She smiled and gave me a very passionate kiss.

Downstairs I bought the girls a round of drinks. Tava leaned up close. Occasionally we kissed and she would rub my groin. Pretty girl sat opposite us and smiled. The bartendress put a Shakira concert video in the DVD player and it was charming to see all the girls in the bar stop what they were doing transfixed by the video. I asked Tava if she could dance like Shakira. She blushed and said no way. Her modesty in reaction to my question is one of the reasons why Cambodian girls are so appealing. I mean come on! This girl just blew me twice, fucked the daylights out of me twice, and participated in a three way and she is slightly embarrassed when I ask if she can shake her hips in sexually provocative way. I love Cambodian women.

It was around midnight when I decided to leave. I told Tava I really liked her and I wanted to see her again, alone. Tava said she thought that would be better, but told me she was going to see her mother or something and would not be in the bar the next night. That was fine with me, because I figured I really needed to check out 51st. I only had 2 nights left in Phnom Phen. I kissed both girls goodnight and left. Outside I found my trusted tuk tuk driver waiting for me at the corner. As I got in, he asked 'Martini's? ' I laughed and said no. Tonight I was really tired. 'Take me to my hotel, ' I said.

Conclusion Rose Bar:

Ambiance 9. 5 – another great little 104st bar. Pool room is a plus. The room upstairs is large and clean.

Selection of girls 8 – Many good looking girls.

Tava – a great little girl. 21 years old. Face 7. 5. Body 9. 5. Sex 9. 5. I told her the truth when I said I really wanted to see her again, alone.

Pretty Girl – Face 8. She really was pretty. Body: I would have to break it down like this, Tits 3, everything else 6. She was a little disingenuous upfront, but she performed satisfactorily when we got down to the act itself. Bottom line, I would not do her again, but we remained on friendly terms. I would have liked going back and forth between the girls with one condom, but pretty girl said no. Another girl might have said yes. I had a great time anyway.

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4 days and 4 nights in Phnom Penh (March 2009)

Night 3:

Day # 3 began with breakfast at the French coffee shop on 241st. Café latte and mango pancakes. Then I walked over to Sentosa Silk to be measured for a silk shirt. I wandered around the riverfront; bought some DVD's and made a repeat visit to Lake Baille. I continued my walking tour and had lunch at a nice riverside cafe. Again, by 3pm I was soaked with perspiration and a little tired so I returned to the hotel swimming pool to cool down and rest up for the night time action.

After another good dinner at Khmer Borane, I decided tonight was the night to check out 51st. I did not know how far I would get but I was looking forward to this adventure. Around 9pm I walked into Shanghai bar. Shanghai Bar is definitely an upscale watering hole and the place was rocking. I was met at the door by a very attractive hostess girl wearing a black dress. She escorted me to an empty table and asked if I wanted company. Normally I would have declined in order to check the place out, but this girl was very pretty and had a great smile, so I said yes. She sat down and I ordered drinks. It wasn't long before another very pretty girl came by and I offered her a drink as well. So this looked like a promising start to the evening. Then as we started to get acquainted one of the girls suggested we adjourn to the patio where we could talk better. Although there were plenty of customers in the patio as well, we found an empty table and continued our conversation in delightful surroundings. Now I don't know what happened or more accurately why it happened. I guess I was just tired or not quite in gear after all the great sex I had had the three previous nights, but when I eventually asked one of the girls if she wanted to go somewhere with me, she said yes, she wanted to go dancing. I said 'Dancing? No I was not into that. ' And for some reason I did not follow up the dancing suggestion with a better alternative. I just let it lie there. So we continued to talk. The girls were attractive, charming and definitely worth taking out. But I let it go. After I finished my beer, I smiled and told the girls I was retiring to my hotel and hoped I would see them another night. They smiled and said that would be fine. So we parted as friends.

Outside Shanghai Bar my faithful tuk tuk driver was waiting for me. I told him to take me to Les Cyrcee Club. Cyrcee is right around the corner more or less, but it is all by itself on this particular block. It was peaceful and quiet, but I would not recommend walking there at night. It must have been around a quarter to ten when I walked into Cyrcee Club. The layout is similar to the 104st. Bars in that it is narrow and deep yet cozy. There were about 20 girls at the bar and 2 or 3 customers. I ordered a beer and sat down at a table against the wall. Now I have to be honest in my reporting. As I looked around the bar I did not see ANY girls above a 5. I drank my beer and thought it's OK, after this I will go over to Heat of Darkness and see what that is all about. And then I saw her, a diamond in the ruff, a real gem: little Am. I would rate her as an all around 7. 5. I asked her to join me and I bought her a drink. We began the usual talk talk and I noticed she had a nice personality. As we talked I saw that there was a balcony / second story in the back of the bar. I asked Am if we could go up there in order to be alone. She said sure so we gathered up our drinks and went upstairs. On the balcony you could stand near the railing, look down on the bar, and anybody in the bar could look up and see you. But if you sat in the chairs towards the back there was total privacy. So we sat down and began a passionate make out session. It was like a high school date at a drive-in movie. I told Am I wasn't sure if I had enough 'power' to go all the way but she did not seem to mind. I felt her up, but she was wearing one of those armor plated bras Cambodian girls wear that shows cleavage but does not tell you anything about the quality of the tits. I reached underneath her dress and gently rubbed her Bush. I could have gone all the way with her on the balcony, but it wasn't all that comfortable on those flimsy chairs. Hey management put a couch up there. Anyway after about 15 minutes of this preliminary fooling around, she started rubbing my cock and said 'You have Power. ' And she was right. So I asked where we could go to make love. She said right around the corner. I asked how much. She said $20. Rock on!

So we left the bar. My tuk tuk guy was waiting right outside, but the girl said a ride was not necessary; we could walk to the hotel. I told my guy to wait for me and off we went. Now, I am not going to bore anyone with further detailed descriptions of what took place in the hotel room. The room was clean. The sex was a pretty standard for me in Cambodia, which means it was great! We had the soapy shower massage to start things off, followed with a nice bareback blowjob and then great sex in multiple positions. And after we rested and cuddled we did it all over again. I guess I was a little tired, because after our 2nd joust I really was out of 'power. ' We layed there in each other's arms quite a while and then I suggested we get dressed, go back to the bar and get another drink. I gave Am an $8 tip and we walked back to the bar arm in arm. The situation at the bar was pretty much the way we left it with 2 or 3 customers and around 20 to 25 rather average to below average looking girls. About 30 minutes later, I said goodbye to Am and told her I really wanted to see her again, but that I was leaving in one day for BKK. She gave me her phone number and told me to call her. We kissed and said good night.

Outside my tuk tuk driver wanted to know where I wanted to go next. It was a around 1am and I was too tired to check out anymore bars, but I told him to go very slowly down 51st all the way to Preah Sihanouk Blvd. Before heading to my hotel so I could see HOD and the other bars. It was nice night with a faint breeze as we past HOD at 5 kilometers per hour. I could not see much from the road except the place was packed and looked very inviting. I thought that maybe tomorrow night, my last night in town I would finally make it to the fabled Hear of Darkness.

Conclusion Shanghai Bar: Highly recommended.

Ambiance. 9.5. This is a great well managed upscale bar. Great ambiance, pretty girls, lots of stuff going on. What more do you want? The patio is best.

Selection of girls. 8.9. A very good selection of attractive and friendly girls. I don't know why I didn't hook up with either of my two little Shanghai hostess girls. Another night it would have been a done deed.

Conclusion Cyrcee Club: Thumbs up.

Ambiance – 8. This is a cozy, friendly, little bar. Very similar to the 104st. Bars, but a little isolated all by itself a couple of blocks from most of the action on Pasteur St. The balcony / mezzanine is a great feature. I was able to test drive Am and knew she was a great girl before I even left the place. Am got me back in gear and restored my 'power'

Selection of girls – mixed. The majority of girls were not that attractive. They rate about a 5 IMHO. Now I don't know if all the good girls were already taken out when I arrived or what, but in all truth, I was not that impressed with the quality of talent.

Am – a real winner. She was very pretty; I would rate her face 7. 5. She was short (all Cambodian girls are short) and had an hourglass figure with nice 'be' cup breasts, and round hips. I would rate her body 7. 5. She was great in and out of bed, had a great personality and I would rate her overall performance 9.

You know I think I these wonderful Cambodian girls are spoiling me. One last day in Phnom Penh and I do not want to leave. Oh the horror of going back to Bangkok for 8 days of GoGo's, massage parlors, and Thai cuisine. I don't know if I can stand it!

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4 days and 4 nights in Phnom Penh (March 2009)

Night 4:

This night is missing from my files! It was my best night in PP, but not much to report. I went back to Rose Bar and took Tava solo. We spent a couple of hours together upstairs. We had 3 shags. What a great gal. I gave her $30 total, that's was $20 for ST plus a $10 goodbye tip. I still remember her as one of my all time best shags. I went back to Penh in 2011. Unfortunately I could not find Tava. Prices were higher, but I still found some good girls. The upstairs rooms were was no longer available at Rose Bar. I took girls back to my hotel. I stayed at the Himawari.

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So what happened to all those old reports? I believe this one and my Siem Reap report were both nominated as Reports of Distinction at the time. I think a lot of reports are lost from when the ISG was down a couple of years ago. Sorry to re post this in the Bangkok Reports thread. But FF wanted to know how Khmer girls stacked up to Thai girls. I don't know if I answered that question.The short answer is you can find sexy, fun to be with, good looking girls in both countries, but it probably easier to find them in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1356813]You know I think I these wonderful Cambodian girls are spoiling me. One last day in Phnom Penh and I do not want to leave. Oh the horror of going back to Bangkok for 8 days of GoGo's, massage parlors, and Thai cuisine. I don't know if I can stand it![/QUOTE]It seems you like more camodian girls than thai girls. Now I unsìderstand fine. At least I hope! .

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1356819]It seems you like more camodian girls than thai girls. Now I unsìderstand fine. At least I hope! .[/QUOTE]No. This trip was back in 2009. Things have changed a little in Phnom since then. As of November 2012 I like Thai girls best, followed by Chinese girls, Indonesian girls, and Filipinas. I will probably go back to PP in about a year. I like Cambodia. It is a nice change from Thailand and the PI. If you go before me, let us know how you find it. I still think you should do Thailand first. But, if you have the time, then of course take a side trip to Phnom Penh. You will like it.

This trip has been unique if nothing else. A couple hours after I checked in, Min from bkk141 showed up at my door for a 24 hour booking. We got to know each other for a while, moved to the indoor jacuzzi then a massage and then on to the sex. Great body, good technique but as soon as the sex started, so did her period, a week early. Had to call housekeeping for a new comforter while we went out to eat. Came back and sat in the outdoor jacuzzi then back inside for a BJ and sleep.

Day two, bar fined a hot slim girl named Bea from Midnight and brought her back to my room, she loved the outdoor jacuzzi and before I knew it she was screwing me underwater. We went in,I licked her pussy until she said "fuck me" and she rode me hard and put me away wet, had a big long orgasm and fell asleep on top of me.

I finally rolled her over and slept for a couple hours and then woke her up at 5 for a repeat but she was whiney and wanted to go home. She was sassy at the start but was a basket case when she woke up. Couldn't find her phone and freaked out. Would not repeat with her.

Today I went to Nataree and was surprised at the huge selection of attractive young women there, I ignored the fishbowl and told my pussy maître the my preferences, young, cute, slim, and while he suggested the 4k models, I found my favorite in the 2600 bin. Her name was Mie and she was just what I was looking for. I paid at the desk and took the lift to the 4th floor.

She bathed me in the tub and we moved to the bed, I licked her nipples, she licked mine, she initially didn't want me to lick her pussy but 1k convinced her. She came like an Asian and gave me a big thumbs up after she composed herself.

I was surprised the BJ was with a condom but she was really good at it. When she hopped on top of me her pussy felt like wet silk. We did a couple positions and that's all I could last. Thoroughly enjoyed myself and I will look for her next time I'm there, next week when I return to Bangkok

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1356820]No. This trip was back in 2009. Things have changed a little in Phnom since then. As of November 2012 I like Thai girls best, followed by Chinese girls, Indonesian girls, and Filipinas. I will probably go back to PP in about a year. I like Cambodia. It is a nice change from Thailand and the PI. If you go before me, let us know how you find it. I still think you should do Thailand first. But, if you have the time, then of course take a side trip to Phnom Penh. You will like it.[/QUOTE]In my opinion Cambodian girls are like indonesian girls. I think they give more girlfriendly experience. They like more to know a foreigner because in Cambodia and Jakarta there are less of them. In Pattaya my worry is the mechanical sex. Girls in Pattaya fuck so many foreigners that for them it is not a novelty at all. A last question: what is cheaper b etween Tailand and Cambodia? I think I can travel in February.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1356793]Interesting reply, I thank you. But you have not told me if Thai girls have more or less attitude about sex. Maybe you never went to Cambodia.[/QUOTE]For such a Senior member, I wonder why the newbie question.

Quick report

On my last trip went to sample this place after hearing good and bad reports. The place is same as the photo and talked to the boss for a bit. Nice guy and not pushy, very easy going. The girls are not super hot or young. But for the price they are ok in the looks department just don't go to some of the bars in nana like rainbow 4 before coming here. The drinks where reasonably priced and the rooms very clean in the rooms.

The lady I had was he girl who trains the others, so was very nice and put a good effort. She was a litte older but that did not worry me. Sex in all positions oral and massage, over all well worth the asking price, I would not do take out unless you really click with the girl, but over all I give it the thums up

[QUOTE=SexPerimenter; 1356826]This

Today I went to Nataree and was surprised at the huge selection of attractive young women there, I ignored the fishbowl and told my pussy maître the my preferences, young, cute, slim, and while he suggested the 4k models, I found my favorite in the 2600 bin. Her name was Mie and she was just what I was looking for. I paid at the desk and took the lift to the 4th floor.[/QUOTE]Damn. I take it 4k and 2. 6k are the prices?

Guys

Please keep that Cambodian shit out of the Bangkok Reports. It has nothing to do with this Thread. Go to the General Thread, maybe someone will be interested in that crap over there.

[QUOTE=SexPerimenter;1356826]she initially didn't want me to lick her pussy but 1k convinced her.[/QUOTE]Very nicely done. That's the way to do it.

Now she's going to tell all her friends that Farangs are dumb enough (in fact you are but they'll put us all in the same basket) to pay more to lick pussy. Next thing you know, they'll all be asking for money for that.

[QUOTE=Franciscass; 1356585]In the multilayered world of Bangkok P4P providers who end up at BJ bars sucking cock for a few hundred baht with no disrespect to them are on or near the bottom rung of the business[/QUOTE]So in your "opinion" street workers and the majority of the ruthless looking girls who haunt the beirgarten operate on a higher plain than staff at a BJ bar?

[QUOTE=Franciscass; 1356585]Looks, age or both exclude them from the more lucrative world of oilies, go go's, soapies etc.[/QUOTE]Commentating from the other side of the counter gives me a unique perspective, so to speak. I know several ladies from various venues including oilie's, go-go's and soapie's on a personal and long term basis. Coupled with this some of our latest recruits come from exactly the aforementioned places. I can guarantee that your conclusion that other venues automatically represent a more lucrative place to work is simply delusional. I am however intrigued how you seem to have your finger on the pulse of the income levels of a kaleidoscope of the P4P venues in Bangkok?

I may be doing you a dis-service here though. Do you now or have you ever ran / owned one of these venues in Bangkok?

[QUOTE=Franciscass; 1356585]Calling them consultants or nurses does not change that reality and the price differential of near 50% using the ruse that if it costs more it must be better borders on the farcica[/QUOTE]Having a two tier system of ladies seems to work very well for people who actually come into the salon, as opposed to "certain" people who appear to have a trans-continental axe to grind. A price differential of 30% is near 50% I was reasonably good at Arithmetic, obviously some people were not. The Nuru and Budget bangers both offer a basic time of 1 hour and the price differential is exactly 100% I. E Budget is 1, 000 baht and Nuru is 2, 000. I have yet to hear you or anyone else describe this set up as a ruse. Nuru and budget are two buildings with a brick wall between them and an adjoining internal door way.

If I were to build a brick wall in the salon, dividing the building in two, having Nurses on one side and Consultants on the other would this cease to be, in your opinion, a ruse?

[QUOTE=Franciscass; 1356585]A more realistic rating (being charitable) would be plain and plainer.[/QUOTE]Actually I think you have a very good point here. This would indeed be a very astute marketing technique if the Salon was set up along the lines of a carpentering or wood-working theme as opposed to a medical one.

[QUOTE=Franciscass; 1356585]The going rate at BJ bars is 700; jacking it up to 1000 might catch the newbie strolling by but not those who know better. Did I mention mine have to be brain surgeons, hell I may even ante up another modest 300 for that kind of excitement?[/QUOTE]The BJ bar in Soi 8 is actually now 800 baht and has been that way for several months. Having been open for just over 1 year, we have a large, maybe majority level of repeat customers who interestingly enough seem to speak a high level of Thai to the ladies they take for their moment of pleasure which I hear when they are seated at the bar afterwards. Or are you thinking that all these stupid tourist (as you are trying to infer) all speak very good Thai on there first visit. The majority of all our customers select Consultants as opposed to Nurses. Not too sure I understand the suggested correlation between levels of intelligence and fellatio skills.

[QUOTE=Franciscass; 1356585]After paying the massage fee usually 400 or the bar fine usually 500 or 600 girls working in MP's and Go Go's keep what the customer pays while at BJ bars they only get a percentage. Consequently a punter silly enough to drop 5000 in a BJ bar is disproportionately benefiting the owner rather than the provider. Not hard to understand.[/QUOTE]Comparing a take out session with a go-go girl to a 30 minute blow-job is irrelevant. Massage parlors and in the same vein the salon are geared towards in-house service. A call-out from the salon or a MP does not financially benefit either the lady or the business concerned as in-house represents more profitability for both parties. In essence you have a good point, we would rather people do not use our staff for the call out service. This is why the salon call out prices are set at the level they are. We offer this simply as good customer service. This is not our primary service, whereas it is in a go-go bar. Not hard to understand!

[QUOTE=Franciscass; 1356585]Comparing stunners for example in Baccara who yes will try for two or even three high earning Japanese tricks before going home to what is available at BJ bars is laughable. Quoting an example of a girl refusing 5000 if it indeed happened at 9pmand suggesting this is the norm is disingenuous and misleading. If you walked down cowboy at 9 pm with a placard over your head offering 5000 for a LT you would be crushed to death in the ensuing melee. Most of the girls on Cowboy and Nana in fact anywhere will spend the night with you for far less than 5000.[/QUOTE]When did I, or anyone else, compare the staff at the salon with the top 10% of girls at one of the top venues in the entire Sukhumvit area? You have, yet again, completely and selectively quoted me out of context. Not sure if my Scottish accent makes it difficult for you to read and understand my posts but at no time did I say a girl would refuse 5, 000 baht for LT. The comparison I was making was that you can take a Consultant form the salon any time after 12 noon until 8 am the following day for 5, 000 baht. If you were to propose LT to a girl in most go-go bars before 10 p. M there is a very high probability you would be quoted between 4-5, 000 baht.

Your own words are "if it indeed happened at 9 pm and suggesting this is the norm is disingenuous and misleading". The conclusion I take from this is that you are suggesting the pricing aspect in my original post was a fabrication? Please correct me if I am wrong. I was referring not only to my personal experience, but also to what several go-go workers have told me.

You will be lucky to get a go-go girl to agree LT from 12:00 midday until the following morning for less than 4, 000. It seems once again you are having trouble with numbers and percentages. 4,000 is not "far less" as you put it than 5, 000.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;1356585]Stating the truism that looks are a personal preference and inferring that washed up old slappers at a BJ bar are just as beautiful as the young hotties at an oilie. Need I labor the point. As to rooms sure the quality varies enormously from place to place some better some worse. Personally I prefer the seedy vibe at SOL for my BJ's and the price all is 700.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Franciscass;1352355]Most oilies will give you 2 hours for 2300 (800 +1500) and the selection and in a lot of shops the room is infinitely better[/QUOTE]The second quote was yours from a previous post.

I am not entirely sure why you labor any point. I have already addressed the comparison issue earlier in this post. As for old and washed up we have at least 12 girls at the salon between the ages of 21 and 28. I note you have shifted your stance regarding the rooms issue from your original post to this one. You stated the majority of other venues had rooms that were infinitely better. In this post you claim to be attracted to the "seedy vibe". I may be missing something here but by your definition if the salon had rooms which were much "seedier" than other places would this not, by your own admission, make you prefer the rooms at the salon as opposed to other places?

[QUOTE=Franciscass;1356585]Although a newbie will find it a little confusing at first The P4P scene in Bangkok is not hard to understand. Where owners continuously use the forum to hype their business long term residents have a duty where neccessary to put the record straight.[/QUOTE]One of the main purposes of this or any other forum is to provide quality information to people coming to Bangkok for the first, second or third time, generally in the form of good field reports. I have looked and cannot find any field reports posted by you. I will be happy to point out the many field reports I have posted. Misleading posts or outright unfounded and venomous attacks do not help anyone. I invite you to quote any of my previous posts which constitute hyping or bare-faced promotion of my businesses. All my posts are about my exploits which involve 100% other venues and responding to questions. There is no "record to be put straight"

Apart from myself there is only one other person who has responded to this post and he sealed his reputation a long time ago. Perhaps the two of you should get together for some food and a few beers, you appear to have a lot in common.

[QUOTE=Franciscass; 1356585]So to summarize there is no need to pay more than 700 for a BJ, take the 300 you are saving and go buy yourself a good meal or 2 or 3 beers, and if you have 5000 to spend in a day do some research as your options are limitless. I would recommend the freelance scene as a place to start. Spending it on somebody from a BJ bar for the reasons mentioned above is in my honest opinion a waste of money[/QUOTE]A good meal for 300 baht? Please share with the forum members where such a venue is located. Limitless options with 5, 000 baht? Being Scottish I tend not to throw money around, regardless of how much I may or may not have in the bank, but IMO saying people have limitless options on a limited budget is surely misleading, isn't it? I would recommend people read the forum then make up their own minds as to the next step based on their own opinions and desires.

So to summarize, I was going to ask why you devote so much time posting negative rants about a place you have, in all probability, never even walked past far less been inside. However Oscar Wilde came to mind with his quote "there is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about and that is not being talked about". So I sincerely ask you to increase the profile of the salon by posting anything and everything you want about the place. At the end of the day you are doing the job which you insinuate I am mis-using the forum for I. E to shamelessly promote my businesses. Thank you Franciscass, honestly.

Regards.

BJ

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1357016]Very nicely done. That's the way to do it.

Now she's going to tell all her friends that Farangs are dumb enough (in fact you are but they'll put us all in the same basket) to pay more to lick pussy. Next thing you know, they'll all be asking for money for that.[/QUOTE]Indeed 1k to lick a pussy is out of the world if she is so good etc.

I am no price police, but the extra itself is nonsense

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1357104]Indeed 1k to lick a pussy is out of the world if she is so good etc.

I am no price police, but the extra itself is nonsense[/QUOTE]I am a devote Pussy Licker, but there is no way I am going to pay extra for it, even OS. Same goes for kissing and many other things. If girls want extra, for sure its not going to be enjoyable for either party. Either she likes it or doesn't! Either a girls does it included or she doesn't do it.

I rarely negotiate or discuss prices at all, so starting to have different prices for different bits is not going to be fun.

[QUOTE=SexPerimenter;1356826]She bathed me in the tub and we moved to the bed, I licked her nipples, she licked mine, she initially didn't want me to lick her pussy but 1k convinced her. She came like an Asian and gave me a big thumbs up after she composed herself.[/QUOTE]That's the way to get what you want from a TG. I've been practicing this for a decade in whatever country I am in. It works both with ladies in Siam & elsewhere.

Although I have no interest in DATY & a girl would have to pay me to do it or listen to her talk, I have often offered them extra cash or a big tip to convince them to do something they are reluctant to or refuse to do. It works.

Such services as DATO & BBFS sometimes come into this category IME, for example. Or doing something for a long time, like humping for an hour or two nonstop, or similar durations with a BBBJ.

When the lady is not particularly attractive, paying more is not something I'd expect to do, or be as inclined to offer. The above applies more to the hotter women who recognize their own value & often feel they can get by on their looks while providing so so service, if even that.

[QUOTE=SexPerimenter;1356826]I was surprised the BJ was with a condom but she was really good at it. When she hopped on top of me her pussy felt like wet silk. We did a couple positions and that's all I could last. Thoroughly enjoyed myself and I will look for her next time I'm there, next week when I return to Bangkok[/QUOTE]A simple way to guage the value of a sex worker is how she made you feel afterwards. If an average looker makes you feel fantastic & twice as good as the stunner, obviously you should stick with what works. For some guys they would be happier with the stunner who provides poor service than the good looking TG who is fabulous in all she does & says. It may not even matter to them that they paid the former 10K and the latter only 1K.

If this leads to all girls requiring a 1K tip to allow pussy licking, then maybe it will weed out a lot of the competition in Thailand, with guys going to places like Cambodia for 5 dollar me love you longtime fucks. I'd rather pay a bit extra for my sexual enjoyment than 3K for a lunch like some ISG members do. If food is my goal in life, I'd just stay in Canada & forget the Land Of Cheap Pussy. But my tipping for extra services has not led to an increase in streetwalker prices, as they are still 1K baht for a ST, the same as back in 2007, when I first came to LOS.

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