[QUOTE=Dg8787;2416042]Bring your Plan B pills.[/QUOTE]
Thankfully I stocked up on some at a Mexico pharmacy. (That's forward monger thinking!) Will 3 be enough?
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[QUOTE=Dg8787;2416042]Bring your Plan B pills.[/QUOTE]
Thankfully I stocked up on some at a Mexico pharmacy. (That's forward monger thinking!) Will 3 be enough?
[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2416845]I'm going to the Phillip. In March and have a week available. Already going to spend a few days in Cebu. And of course Manila. Is it worth going to Angeles? I RTFF and note it seems over priced and many girls don't cater to white middle aged guys, or rather prefer a different flavor guy with loads of cash. Reminds me of Pattaya. Which last time wasn't as much fun for those same reasons. Any special reason to go to Angeles, apart from convenience? Just think my time is better spent in more laid back places.
Thanks for the help.
EQ.[/QUOTE]Go with your gut if you have RTFF and make hat decision as we all do as we all have different flavours.
PM if you want a few contacts please.
And as a matter of interest to my mind at least LOL you have 3 FRs in 2010 (questions) , 1 and 2011 (question) and this one so perhaps a posting with some info on Mexico etc would be nice as you must have had lots of replies.
Look forward to the PM EQ if you decide to go and need contacts non pros.
[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2416845] many girls don't cater to white middle aged guys, or rather prefer a different flavor guy with loads of cash. R[/QUOTE]I would have thought the opposite. AC is full of white middle aged guys whom all have 1 (or more) Filipina by their side.
As for "loads of cash" ways to find girls for whom spare USD20 is loads of cash.
Please include AC on you agenda. I'd suggest organizing your domestic flights like CEB-CRK-MNL so you have one less road trip between MNL & CRK.
PP.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2416907]Thankfully I stocked up on some at a Mexico pharmacy. (That's forward monger thinking!) Will 3 be enough?[/QUOTE]3 is enough for a starter kit.
You have 1 to 3 chance of using it. Based on my calculations of 10 vulnerable days out of 30.
I used one the other night. Folks remember these are taken orally, by the girl!
[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2416845]I'm going to the Phillip. In March and have a week available. Already going to spend a few days in Cebu. And of course Manila. Is it worth going to Angeles? I RTFF and note it seems over priced and many girls don't cater to white middle aged guys, or rather prefer a different flavor guy with loads of cash. Reminds me of Pattaya. Which last time wasn't as much fun for those same reasons. Any special reason to go to Angeles, apart from convenience? Just think my time is better spent in more laid back places.
Thanks for the help.
EQ.[/QUOTE]If you did not like Pattaya, Angeles City is probably not for you.
[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2416845]I'm going to the Phillip. In March and have a week available. Already going to spend a few days in Cebu. And of course Manila. Is it worth going to Angeles? I RTFF and note it seems over priced and many girls don't cater to white middle aged guys, or rather prefer a different flavor guy with loads of cash. Reminds me of Pattaya. Which last time wasn't as much fun for those same reasons. Any special reason to go to Angeles, apart from convenience? Just think my time is better spent in more laid back places.
Thanks for the help.
EQ.[/QUOTE]You love or hate Angeles depends on your experience. Cannot go by what others say. But you need to experience Angeles at least once in your life. If you are booking hotels always call the hotel directly and book. If you pay cash they give 10 percent discount. Also if you book for three days and want to leave after one day they will let you without penalty.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2416363]I'm the other way: I need to tap out after 3 days in AC but can easily spend a week in Manila.
Other options don't need to be close if they have many flights per day. An hour flight can be much quicker than driving across Metro Manila.[/QUOTE]Hear, hear, I feel exactly the same. My trips always have the first & last 3-5 days in Manila because the pool of fish is so plentiful. Then off to random provinces for some real vacation / exploration with hopefully some 'dates' involved! The 1 hour flights are dirt cheap too.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2415829]Welcome. Go to reception / information desk, tell them your medical needs and they will direct you to the right doctor.[/QUOTE]So, feedback on medical center, could be useful for others, very efficient globally despite tons of papers used by all people here. Be there at 9 am Monday morning, ask for a specialist at information desk, had the meeting at 9:30,2 k PHP, written prescription and blood analysis to do.
Did blood analysis at 10, results to be delivered 5 days after at same place. Cost.
3 k PHP.
Medics delivered in the onsite pharmacy, costs 5 k due to one medic considered as costly.
No personal health insurance for abroad, but need to check with my national health insurance how they take that in account.
Globally very efficient, was finished before 11 am.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2417426]So, feedback on medical center, could be useful for others, very efficient globally despite tons of papers used by all people here. Be there at 9 am Monday morning, ask for a specialist at information desk, had the meeting at 9:30,2 k PHP, written prescription and blood analysis to do.[/QUOTE]Centuria Medical Center. Brand new, across the street (Luna St) from Century Mall, Gramercy (I had my back to the Gramercy Residences literally taking those pics), next to Trump Tower, Knightsbridge and Milano Residences and A-Venue. Anyone tried the place?
Hi gents,
Is there any Corona Virus issue applying by NAIA immigration for the incoming visitors from Thailand? Since it became world threat and Thailand also in the list. Recent update would be much appreciated.
[QUOTE=MuaTur;2417758]Hi gents,
Is there any Corona Virus issue applying by NAIA immigration for the incoming visitors from Thailand? Since it became world threat and Thailand also in the list. Recent update would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]If it is a "world threat", you will be under suspicion too.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2417915]If it is a "world threat", you will be under suspicion too.[/QUOTE]We can not say who is not.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2417727]Centuria Medical Center. Brand new, across the street (Luna St) from Century Mall, Gramercy (I had my back to the Gramercy Residences literally taking those pics), next to Trump Tower, Knightsbridge and Milano Residences and A-Venue. Anyone tried the place?[/QUOTE]WC,
I just got to the Milano last night, it's very nice. I've been a long time member of this board, but never posted for various reasons. I feel compiled to advise everyone to stay away from Malate, or anywhere in Phils that the Chinese gather in numbers. After arriving in manila last Thursday, I stayed in a condo by Greenbelt, and proceeded to come down with a bad cold. SOB. I only had one night of sex with a smoochi girl, huge tits and a lot of fun! So, I checkout yesterday, I already reserved a room at Malate Bayview Mansion 2 months ago figuring I'd check out the Malate seen, wrong. LOL. I arrive to the mansion, go through the entrance, and a security had had a handheld laser temperature gadget, points at my forehead, and I proceed through. That really spooked me out. I start looking around and everyone, I mean everyone is wearing a mask. It's obvious by now that this place is full of Chinese folks. It felt like a dystopian science fiction show, but I'm in it! Anyways, I did an E & E, and got the hell out of there! So, I'm goona hang in Makati for another 5-6 days, anybody wants to hang and have a few, I'd appreciate some decent conversion and a laugh.
Booked another trip in mid May: Cebu and AC.
Sent in my subscription fee via snail mail a few weeks back. Hopefully it gets processed soon!
If any members want to meet up for drinks and hit the streets, let me know!
Conquest to blend mongering in both Europe and Asia got a punch in the teeth.
Scoot Air fly into Manila from Athens Wednesday morning.
Exit is 7 pm Sunday depart AC Clark to Hong Kong via Cebu Pacific for a 24 stopover in Hong Kong to catch Emirates flight back to Athens (the scenic route).
Just got a nastygram from Cebu Pacific that CRK-HKG has been cancelled, options are to catch the next available Monday 6 am, find a different city in PH to stage myself in, or start a new life in PH.
I can't miss my Emirates HKG-ATH flight.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2418549]Conquest to blend mongering in both Europe and Asia got a punch in the teeth.
Scoot Air fly into Manila from Athens Wednesday morning.
Exit is 7 pm Sunday depart AC Clark to Hong Kong via Cebu Pacific for a 24 stopover in Hong Kong to catch Emirates flight back to Athens (the scenic route).
Just got a nastygram from Cebu Pacific that CRK-HKG has been cancelled, options are to catch the next available Monday 6 am, find a different city in PH to stage myself in, or start a new life in PH.
I can't miss my Emirates HKG-ATH flight.[/QUOTE]Your flight from HKG back to Athens may get cancelled too. That would be a good thing because then you could book a flight from MNL back to Athens and avoid China. HKG sucks by the way. The alternative is check see if there are still flights from A) MNL to HKG or B) AC to Macau, or C) MNL to Macau. From Macau you can take the ferry straight to HKG airport on the day of your flight. But rebooking your return flight from MNL would be your best option if the airline permits it.
[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2416845]I'm going to the Phillip. In March and have a week available. Already going to spend a few days in Cebu. And of course Manila. Is it worth going to Angeles? I RTFF and note it seems over priced and many girls don't cater to white middle aged guys, or rather prefer a different flavor guy with loads of cash. Reminds me of Pattaya. Which last time wasn't as much fun for those same reasons. Any special reason to go to Angeles, apart from convenience? Just think my time is better spent in more laid back places.
Thanks for the help.
EQ.[/QUOTE]I think it's a must! I've been there a couple times a year over the last eight years and I have never had a problem finding beautiful GFE girls in the bars. I'm not sure why others have such a hard time! Good luck and give it a go mate!
[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2416845]I'm going to the Phillip. In March and have a week available. Already going to spend a few days in Cebu. And of course Manila. Is it worth going to Angeles? I RTFF and note it seems over priced and many girls don't cater to white middle aged guys, or rather prefer a different flavor guy with loads of cash. Reminds me of Pattaya. Which last time wasn't as much fun for those same reasons. Any special reason to go to Angeles, apart from convenience? Just think my time is better spent in more laid back places.
Thanks for the help.
EQ.[/QUOTE]With only 1 week you are not going to have much time to do all three. You need more to cover all three. That short time frame won't give you much room to establish much of a plan anywhere.
[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2416845]I'm going to the Phillip. In March and have a week available. Already going to spend a few days in Cebu. And of course Manila. Is it worth going to Angeles? I RTFF and note it seems over priced and many girls don't cater to white middle aged guys, or rather prefer a different flavor guy with loads of cash. Reminds me of Pattaya. Which last time wasn't as much fun for those same reasons. Any special reason to go to Angeles, apart from convenience? Just think my time is better spent in more laid back places.
Thanks for the help.
EQ.[/QUOTE]WR is right. You have read the reports. No sense in going to AC.
Please post reports on Cebu and Manila.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2418549]Conquest to blend mongering in both Europe and Asia got a punch in the teeth.
Scoot Air fly into Manila from Athens Wednesday morning.
Exit is 7 pm Sunday depart AC Clark to Hong Kong via Cebu Pacific for a 24 stopover in Hong Kong to catch Emirates flight back to Athens (the scenic route).
Just got a nastygram from Cebu Pacific that CRK-HKG has been cancelled, options are to catch the next available Monday 6 am, find a different city in PH to stage myself in, or start a new life in PH.
I can't miss my Emirates HKG-ATH flight.[/QUOTE]Speak with Emirates and tell them you are worried about Coronavirus. Ask to be put on their CRK- (CEB) -DXB / DXB-ATH or MNL-DXB / DXB-ATH. Probably can be done for no charge given the mania about the virus.
And as for Cebu Pacicfic, make sure you take the full refund option. Do not chose the "travel fund" or whatever they call their sink hole.
PP.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2418703]Speak with Emirates and tell them you are worried about Coronavirus.
PP.[/QUOTE]Was multitasking on that last post where I was also in a chat session with Emirates who clarified as of Thu Jan 30 all Hong Kong flights are going as scheduled. That'll be my luck 2 weeks from now t minus 3 days they pull the rug on me.
I scheduled Athens / Pinay hobbying over two months ago FML.
Edit: was going to ask Emirates can they change the HKG-DXB leg to SIN-DXB but we'll see
See reports on WeChat. What about Bumble, Seeking Arrangements and Badoo?
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2418862]Edit: was going to ask Emirates can they change the HKG-DXB leg to SIN-DXB but we'll see[/QUOTE]Why not seek a departure directly from a Ph airport with MNL, CRK or CEB. You will avoid yourself having to go through with another carrier to get to HKG or SIN.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2418862]Edit: was going to ask Emirates can they change the HKG-DXB leg to SIN-DXB but we'll see[/QUOTE]If I'm reading Emirates's site correctly I may qualify to have my flight changed from flyimg out of Hong Kong to either Manila, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur to name a few. At no charge.
May have to play it safe and put off HK this go around.
I have the same. I am in Phil now, Cebu, then Palawan and Bohol.
Flight back is from Manila to Zurich via HKG on Swiss.
They propose changes for free but not for HKG, it's still considered as safe.
I continue to check.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2418914]I have the same. I am in Phil now, Cebu, then Palawan and Bohol.
Flight back is from Manila to Zurich via HKG on Swiss.
They propose changes for free but not for HKG, it's still considered as safe.
I continue to check.[/QUOTE]If you are just a transit through HKG, then no need to change at all.
I understand the only reason CenTexCrash needs to trigger the change is due to the kids at CebuPacific changing their flights.
Forgot to mention, in the years when I'm living exclusively in the west I get prescribed an antibiotic once per year for something. On the years that I'm snogging farm girls and low cost hooker sin AC, I average about 5 infections per year.
I say this for those worried about coronavirus. A few days in AC with 2-3 different girls per day is probably a greater respiratory risk than flying through HKG.
[URL]https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3047934/chinese-prostitution-dens-sell-sex-wechat-and-telegram-its-fast[/URL]
Anyone? Apps?
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2418867]See reports on WeChat. What about Bumble, Seeking Arrangements and Badoo?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2419798]Anyone? Apps?[/QUOTE]
My Phils app experience recently:
Hits-likes:
Tinder. On fire.
Bumble. Very quiet, not many users.
Badoo. If Tinder is on fire, this is an atomic bomb.
F. Cupid. On fire (but a website, not an app. Has the advantage of setting up meetings a day or 2 prior to landing in said city).
Meet up success rate:
Tinder. Very good, but 1 lady bay got as far as into my room despite saying he / she was 100% woman, but I kicked him / her out when he / she balked at proving it to me.
Bumble. Zero.
Badoo. Good.
F. Cupid. Very good.
Once the girls share contact number, it moves over to:
Text - +/- 40%.
Whatsapp - +/- 50%.
FBook - 10% (I always say I don't have, which can fudge the numbers).
Viber. Zero, but had a couple requests, used text or whatsapp.
Skype. Zero, but had a couple requests, used text or whatsapp.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2418914]I have the same. I am in Phil now, Cebu, then Palawan and Bohol.
Flight back is from Manila to Zurich via HKG on Swiss.
They propose changes for free but not for HKG, it's still considered as safe.
I continue to check.[/QUOTE]So far they say hkg is safe. Problem is when you land in your western country will they quarantine you for 14 days because you transited through hkg.
[QUOTE=Free2;2419830]My Phils app experience recently:[/QUOTE]Good to know. Weird I used Bumble briefly in April 2019 and got a few girls messaging me. One girl said I'll add you on WhatsApp and I was like How? I haven't even given you my number.
Neeeeext question: decent temp sim card brand in case T-Mobile goes sour on me?
(Sorry if I've been monopolizing the PH forum lately).
[QUOTE=Sammon;2419854]So far they say hkg is safe. Problem is when you land in your western country will they quarantine you for 14 days because you transited through hkg.[/QUOTE]Cebu Pacific pulled the rug x 2. I was about to rebook from cancelled Sunday night to early Monday morning. Cebu suspended ALL flights to Hong Kong.
My other leg I'm counting on, Emirates officially about 16 hours ago suspended flights to Gangzhou 55 miles north of HK then turn around and tell me HK is fine.
Facebook users telling me how is HK fine when they still have inbound flights from Wuhan?
Hoping tomorrow morning Emirates comes to their senses. In mean time think I'll book a $65 one way to Singapore just to put something on paper.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2419798]Anyone? Apps?[/QUOTE]I've had no success with Badoo, 1 in 2 months from tinder, 3 from DIA and I think 8 - 10 from PL. I have had 2 from Tan Tan and a couple more I plan to meet. I have had a few Wechat offers but never committed. I have had a few referrals and repeats from previous visits. I try not to get anyone older than 22. I like thin girls and most have been on the attractive side. 3 had baby damage that precludes repeating but one is happy to refer other girls. Mostly I pay 2500 to 3500 depending on various factors for 2 shots and no condom. I don't pay any subscription fees for these sites.
Below is today's 19 yo.
[QUOTE=Free2;2419830]Once the girls share contact number, it moves over to:
Text - +/- 40%.
Whatsapp - +/- 50%.
FBook - 10% (I always say I don't have, which can fudge the numbers).
Viber. Zero, but had a couple requests, used text or whatsapp.
Skype. Zero, but had a couple requests, used text or whatsapp.[/QUOTE]This is interesting that the strike rate also later depends upon the communication method in addition to the source of the girl's contact.
I feel that willing aspirational (fucking) girls will seek out newer avenues so that they appear more unique IE early adopters on tantan are there to be different, not many of their friends are there. So why be there. That reinforces why Skype has zero success, it is so yesterday (and owned by Microsoft).
Being in France, I confirm that ALL transit and arrival passengers have a mandatory 14 days clinical stay in quarantined quarter.
Unless your holiday exceeds way beyond 14 days, try avoiding China right now, be it HK China, mainland China or even Taiwan China.
Unless you have too much retirement time on your hands to burn.
Vic.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2419868]Cebu Pacific pulled the rug x 2. I was about to rebook from cancelled Sunday night to early Monday morning. Cebu suspended ALL flights to Hong Kong.
My other leg I'm counting on, Emirates officially about 16 hours ago suspended flights to Gangzhou 55 miles north of HK then turn around and tell me HK is fine.
Facebook users telling me how is HK fine when they still have inbound flights from Wuhan?
Hoping tomorrow morning Emirates comes to their senses. In mean time think I'll book a $65 one way to Singapore just to put something on paper.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VictorHugo99;2420159]Unless your holiday exceeds way beyond 14 days, try avoiding China right now, be it HK China, mainland China or even Taiwan China.[/QUOTE]As of last 48 hours, British Airways, Delta, American, and now United have suspended service to Hong Kong. Cathay Pacific has scaled back.
Casinos and schools and ferry services have been locked down.
Emirates still sees no (dire) issue.
Emirates also has the audacity to ask Beijing outbound passengers to report to Beijing PEK departures check in 8 hours in advance.
Refunded my CRK-HKG ticket, pre-emptively bought a JetStar CRK-SIN ticket.
Gambling either Emirates will soon cave and alter my flight out of SIN vs HKG or I get to spend $$$ on another flight to HKG.
Transiting Dubai, Athens, Heathrow, before touching down in Houston. Monger opp in Athens but that's an afterthought at the moment.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2420231]As of last 48 hours, British Airways, Delta, American, and now United have suspended service to Hong Kong. Cathay Pacific has scaled back.
Casinos and schools and ferry services have been locked down.
Emirates still sees no (dire) issue.
Emirates also has the audacity to ask Beijing outbound passengers to report to Beijing PEK departures check in 8 hours in advance.
Refunded my CRK-HKG ticket, pre-emptively bought a JetStar CRK-SIN ticket.
Gambling either Emirates will soon cave and alter my flight out of SIN vs HKG or I get to spend $$$ on another flight to HKG.
Transiting Dubai, Athens, Heathrow, before touching down in Houston. Monger opp in Athens but that's an afterthought at the moment.[/QUOTE]By your reports you seem to be an unprepared walking disaster crashing.
[QUOTE=VictorHugo99;2420159] mainland China or even Taiwan China[/QUOTE]JFC. Taiwan is Taiwan and not fing Taiwan China.
I am still in Palawan, my return flight to France is planned for the 14 of Feb, from Manila to HKG with Cathay, then HKG to Zurich with Swiss and then swiss again to France.
Either Cathay and swiss still use HKG as connecting hub at least.
For the moment I can't change nothing.
A breakdown of where the virus has struck, by country.
[URL]https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/where-wuhan-coronavirus-cases-confirmed-104547599.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2420554]I am still in Palawan, my return flight to France is planned for the 14 of Feb, from Manila to HKG with Cathay, then HKG to Zurich with Swiss and then swiss again to France.
Either Cathay and swiss still use HKG as connecting hub at least.
For the moment I can't change nothing.[/QUOTE]For next week, United changed my Cathay flight via Hong Kong, instead routing the Manila return through Narita on ANA — at no expense. The other Star Alliance carriers are likely to fall into line. Interestingly, there were a lot of empty seats: I even got the upgrade without being waitlisted.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2420601]For next week, United changed my Cathay flight via Hong Kong, instead routing the Manila return through Narita on ANA at no expense. The other Star Alliance carriers are likely to fall into line. Interestingly, there were a lot of empty seats: I even got the upgrade without being waitlisted.[/QUOTE]I'm scheduled to travel to the Philippines in mid-March on United via Narita. I'm getting worried that the coronavirus scare might expand to impact flights to / from countries other than China. Keeping my fingers crossed.
RG.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2420601]For next week, United changed my Cathay flight via Hong Kong, instead routing the Manila return through Narita on ANA at no expense. The other Star Alliance carriers are likely to fall into line. Interestingly, there were a lot of empty seats: I even got the upgrade without being waitlisted.[/QUOTE]I asked my company, swiss, and they propose a change from HKG stop to Singapore stop which is not far better, and with cost.
HKG for them is still under operations.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2421364]I'm scheduled to travel to the Philippines in mid-March on United via Narita. I'm getting worried that the coronavirus scare might expand to impact flights to / from countries other than China. Keeping my fingers crossed.
RG.[/QUOTE]I am planing to travel during the last week of March as well. Aren't you worried about coronovirus? Not just flight delays. I am just curious and should I worry about coronovirus or not while planning for a trip.
It seems that it is possible still travel to infected countries, by accepting these conditions:
1) washing hands constantly.
2) not shaking hands or doing regular greeting habits (if not hand wash immediate after each greeting).
3) accepting a 14 day Leave of absence in medical quarantine upon return to originating country.
4) providing a list (traceable) of persons with contact in foreign country.
For these reasons, I would prefer not to travel for work now, since it will be impossible to enjoy our hobby under these conditions.
Victor.
[QUOTE=CodeName47;2421977]I am planing to travel during the last week of March as well. Aren't you worried about coronovirus? Not just flight delays. I am just curious and should I worry about coronovirus or not while planning for a trip.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CodeName47;2421977]I am planing to travel during the last week of March as well. Aren't you worried about coronovirus? Not just flight delays. I am just curious and should I worry about coronovirus or not while planning for a trip.[/QUOTE]I am planning the same mid March transiting thru NRT.
By then we will know if the world is coming to an end or not.
If you are any bit worried about coronavirus then it is best to cancel any plans. I don't see how anyone worried would be able to maintain a hardon even with vitamin V or see.
[QUOTE=CodeName47;2421977]I am planing to travel during the last week of March as well. Aren't you worried about coronovirus? Not just flight delays. I am just curious and should I worry about coronovirus or not while planning for a trip.[/QUOTE]I will be there the last week of this month. If you do not hear back from me before your trip, you will know that the virus caught up with me and I am no longer.
[QUOTE=CodeName47;2421977]I am planing to travel during the last week of March as well. Aren't you worried about coronovirus? Not just flight delays. I am just curious and should I worry about coronovirus or not while planning for a trip.[/QUOTE]No, not really. I figure the chances of contracting that disease are about the same as staying in the US. There hasn't been much of an impact on either the Philippines or Japan, so I'm not worried. I'll be extra careful, however, about washing my hands frequently and using hand sanitizer. I'm more worried about riding in Philippine taxis. LOL.
RG.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2420554]I am still in Palawan, my return flight to France is planned for the 14 of Feb, from Manila to HKG with Cathay, then HKG to Zurich with Swiss and then swiss again to France.
Either Cathay and swiss still use HKG as connecting hub at least.
For the moment I can't change nothing.[/QUOTE]I am coming first week of March. I am not concern at all considering the fact that Philippines only have 3 confirmed cases. About laying over thru main land China, Hong Kong and Macau. Immigration will not let you in. I am more worried about getting mug by street kids while walking around Manila.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2422098]No, not really. I figure the chances of contracting that disease are about the same as staying in the US. There hasn't been much of an impact on either the Philippines or Japan, so I'm not worried. I'll be extra careful, however, about washing my hands frequently and using hand sanitizer. I'm more worried about riding in Philippine taxis. LOL.
RG.[/QUOTE]Fear of the virus is having an impact here: malls are sparsely populated as are restaurants and many local flights. I flew yesterday from Clark to Davao on PAL and the cabin attendant confirmed that bookings are way off from where they usually are. We own a restaurant here and have several friends on operate restaurants, and we've all noticed a significant reduction of dine-in customers and a significant increase in those ordering through home delivery services. So, even though the country evidently has little to worry about based on empirical evidence to date, fear and ignorance are taking a toll I think.
GE.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2422245]Fear of the virus is having an impact here: malls are sparsely populated as are restaurants and many local flights. I flew yesterday from Clark to Davao on PAL and the cabin attendant confirmed that bookings are way off from where they usually are. We own a restaurant here and have several friends on operate restaurants, and we've all noticed a significant reduction of dine-in customers and a significant increase in those ordering through home delivery services. So, even though the country evidently has little to worry about based on empirical evidence to date, fear and ignorance are taking a toll I think.
GE.[/QUOTE]Here in California people are staying home. A couple of popular Chinese restaurants are nearly empty these days when normally they would have lines of Chinese waiting. Used to be you would go to Chinese resto populated with Chinese. Not these days for now. I have eaten a few times at one of the places and the Chinese waitress has confirmed business is down 80%.
Today I went to my Vietnamese hair dresser for a hair cut and she confirmed her business was down 75%. People are staying in and away from Asian establishments, including Asians.
I assume this will be the case for another 30 days until better results are confirmed.
Meanwhile I am planning a trip to PH in the next 30 days.
I am in Bohol, flying back to Manila, and hotels confirm that business is very weak, mainly due to lack of all chinese tourists. But there stay many European here.
Up to now, I think Phil stay quite safe, few cases registered and far less than in my country for example, France. But are they well identified. That's also the question.
And if we contract the virus, maybe better to be in Europe or us, than here to be hospitalised.
So manila this afternoon and Friday a stop in HKG.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2422245]Fear of the virus is having an impact here: malls are sparsely populated as are restaurants and many local flights. I flew yesterday from Clark to Davao on PAL and the cabin attendant confirmed that bookings are way off from where they usually are. We own a restaurant here and have several friends on operate restaurants, and we've all noticed a significant reduction of dine-in customers and a significant increase in those ordering through home delivery services. So, even though the country evidently has little to worry about based on empirical evidence to date, fear and ignorance are taking a toll I think.
GE.[/QUOTE]How would home delivery be any more hygienic? We all know that Flips wash their asses with their fingers after taking a dump, and then there is never any soap to properly clean their hands afterwards. I doubt that the average Flip restaurateur provides hand sanitizer for the kitchen staff. The food will be contaminated with the bat virus regardless of dine in or take out.
[QUOTE=VictorHugo99;2422049]It seems that it is possible still travel to infected countries, by accepting these conditions:
1) washing hands constantly.
2) not shaking hands or doing regular greeting habits (if not hand wash immediate after each greeting).
3) accepting a 14 day Leave of absence in medical quarantine upon return to originating country.
4) providing a list (traceable) of persons with contact in foreign country.
For these reasons, I would prefer not to travel for work now, since it will be impossible to enjoy our hobby under these conditions.
Victor.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the detailed response.
From the sounds of it planing for end of March early April is a bad idea.
[QUOTE=VictorHugo99;2422049]It seems that it is possible still travel to infected countries, by accepting these conditions:
1) washing hands constantly.
2) not shaking hands or doing regular greeting habits (if not hand wash immediate after each greeting).
3) accepting a 14 day Leave of absence in medical quarantine upon return to originating country.
4) providing a list (traceable) of persons with contact in foreign country.
For these reasons, I would prefer not to travel for work now, since it will be impossible to enjoy our hobby under these conditions.
Victor.[/QUOTE]What do you call infected country?
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2422098]No, not really. I figure the chances of contracting that disease are about the same as staying in the US. There hasn't been much of an impact on either the Philippines or Japan, so I'm not worried. I'll be extra careful, however, about washing my hands frequently and using hand sanitizer. I'm more worried about riding in Philippine taxis. LOL.
RG.[/QUOTE]I am in the middle of finalizing the dates. Most likely will go in end of March. And will return to Melbourne on mid April. Hopefully by then there won't be any trouble getting back to Melbourne.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2422068]I am planning the same mid March transiting thru NRT.
By then we will know if the world is coming to an end or not.
If you are any bit worried about coronavirus then it is best to cancel any plans. I don't see how anyone worried would be able to maintain a hardon even with vitamin V or see.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2422074]I will be there the last week of this month. If you do not hear back from me before your trip, you will know that the virus caught up with me and I am no longer.[/QUOTE]I am worried more about getting back to Melbourne after the trip.
[QUOTE=CodeName47;2422415]I am worried more about getting back to Melbourne after the trip.[/QUOTE]Exact, me too, that's why I will organise my own quarantine in my country as nobody wants to organise it for me.
They just say stay at home. Cool, band what about my family?
[QUOTE=CodeName47;2422394]From the sounds of it planing for end of March early April is a bad idea.[/QUOTE]Damn right it is a bad idea. You better go now while it is still in the baby stage. By April it will be an epidemic of biblical proportion.
It's not all bad news. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYTzX9JCbDY[/URL].
Hi M. A,
Here are countries affected.
[URL]https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/features/coronavirus-outbreak-the-countries-affected/[/URL]
I know that China, Singapore, Thailand, Korea and Japan now have cases who are untraceable to contact to China patients. This is making more them ensure more thorough measures.
Vic.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2422397]What do you call infected country?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2422545]It's not all bad news. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYTzX9JCbDY[/URL].[/QUOTE]Brilliant.
Last night I had a flight to go to the Philippines from Chicago, but Eva air wouldn't let me check-in. They said the Philippines was not accepting passengers from any Chinese Province including Taiwan. This was where my layover would have been. The only people they would let board the plane were Filipino citizens or people with Filipino passports to be more exact.
[QUOTE=Fizzman1970;2422989]Last night I had a flight to go to the Philippines from Chicago, but Eva air wouldn't let me check-in. They said the Philippines was not accepting passengers from any Chinese Province including Taiwan. This was where my layover would have been. The only people they would let board the plane were Filipino citizens or people with Filipino passports to be more exact.[/QUOTE]EVA knew that in advance. Its a piss-off that they did not notify you (and all customers) in advance to re-book your flight.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2423071]EVA knew that in advance. Its a piss-off that they did not notify you (and all customers) in advance to re-book your flight.[/QUOTE]Yes they don't accept China, Taiwan, hongkong.
Taiwan has raised the case, they don't like to be mixed with China.
I have heard that, about a year ago, Narita airport stopped requiring US transit passengers to undergo security checks to go to connecting flights. Is this true? In two weeks, I'll be flying United from Houston to Manila via Narita. I always hated that damn transit security screen at Narita.
RG.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2425535]I have heard that, about a year ago, Narita airport stopped requiring US transit passengers to undergo security checks to go to connecting flights. Is this true? In two weeks, I'll be flying United from Houston to Manila via Narita. I always hated that damn transit security screen at Narita.
RG.[/QUOTE]It wasn't a year ago bc I had to go thru it a little while back.
Mid January, 2020 I transit thru NRT via United to Manila and as I got off the plane, like usual there was a uniformed gate person holding signs for transit passengers to go a certain way. To my surprise I walked right out to the gate waiting area. No security screening! For a minute I had a brain freeze and didn't know what to do.
So, no more secondary screening for United transit passengers.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2425535]I have heard that, about a year ago, Narita airport stopped requiring US transit passengers to undergo security checks to go to connecting flights. Is this true? In two weeks, I'll be flying United from Houston to Manila via Narita. I always hated that damn transit security screen at Narita.
[/QUOTE]That is only when you are not getting on a plane to the USA. If you are coming from the USA and going to Manila then you no longer go through the security phase. But going the other way you do.
Yes, mid travel security check is a pain in the butt.
No, they have not stopped requiring check at Narita.
I travel multiple times DFW NRT HAN.
Each time security check in Narita.
Happy hunting.
Rainman.
I have heard that, about a year ago, Narita airport stopped requiring US transit passengers to undergo security checks to go to connecting flights. Is this true? In two weeks, I'll be flying United from Houston to Manila via Narita. I always hated that damn transit security screen at Narita.
Yes, mid travel security check is a pain in the butt.
NO, they have not stopped requiring check at Narita.
I travel multiple times DFW NRT HAN.
Each time security check in Narita.
Happy hunting.
Rainman.
I have heard that, about a year ago, Narita airport stopped requiring US transit passengers to undergo security checks to go to connecting flights. Is this true? In two weeks, I'll be flying United from Houston to Manila via Narita. I always hated that damn transit security screen at Narita.
Seems like no significant updates in ISG about Corona in the Philippines in the last two weeks. Apparently businesses are running slow and Philippine authorities have barred flights from Mainland China and Macau.
I'm due to travel to Manila and Iloilo for work in late April. I understand that using hand sanitizer liberally probably makes everyday life manageable in the Philippines, but I am concerned about travel restrictions. Obviously much can change in two months, but has anybody experienced or heard credible reports about: a) quarantines applied to air travelers arriving to the states from the Philippines, b) passengers being stopped in intermediate air stops such as Narita, or c) any new Philippine bans on incoming flights since they lifted the ill-informed ban on flights from Taiwan?
I have found no related updates on legitimate websites, but since the patrons here are fabulously well-informed, I thought ISG might be a reasonable place to inquire. (Yes, I read Mr. E's sarcastic trolling.) I need to make a travel decision soon.
Salamat po.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2427774]Obviously much can change in two months, but has anybody experienced or heard credible reports about: a) quarantines applied to air travelers arriving to the states from the Philippines, [/QUOTE]Got this from my buddy yesterday:
Him: They flagging everybody who have flown to Asia even global entry folks. Folks are getting secondary inspections.
Me: lol. guess i will get it in april
Him: Make sure you have your bag full of dirty dildos and skid marked under wear
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2427787]
Him: They flagging everybody who have flown to Asia even global entry folks. Folks are getting secondary inspections.[/QUOTE]My usual options are to take Delta through Narita or PAL directly from San Francisco to Manila. If Narita is likely to be a sticking point, PAL through San Francisco works okay for me.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2427774]Seems like no significant updates in ISG about Corona in the Philippines in the last two weeks. Apparently businesses are running slow and Philippine authorities have barred flights from Mainland China and Macau.
I'm due to travel to Manila and Iloilo for work in late April........
Salamat po.[/QUOTE]They are even scanning on internal travel. I took the RORO ferry from Batangus to Calapan and was given a form to fill in and had a temperature check on leaving the boat.
Guess they don't know that these temperature checks don't work.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2427818]Guess they don't know that these temperature checks don't work.[/QUOTE]Why do you say the don't work? At many condos and hotels in Manila they are standard now for anyone entering.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2427876]Why do you say the don't work? At many condos and hotels in Manila they are standard now for anyone entering.[/QUOTE]Because the only thing it is going to tell you is that someone is hot.
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29459896[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2427892]Because the only thing it is going to tell you is that someone is hot.
[/QUOTE]Yes but this is the first point of triage, and that is important.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2427818]Guess they don't know that these temperature checks don't work.[/QUOTE]So basically the same rationale as security guard pat-downs at restaurants, malls, the light rail, government buildings, and so on? The appearance of doing something, but with no tangible outcome.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2427876]Why do you say the don't work? At many condos and hotels in Manila they are standard now for anyone entering.[/QUOTE]Because the people that are experts at this say so.
[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/thermometer-guns-screening-for-coronavirus-notoriously-not-accurate-2020-2[/URL]
[URL]https://qz.com/1806728/coronavirus-we-need-to-rethink-the-design-of-the-temperature-gun/[/URL]
[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/19/health/coronavirus-airport-temperature-checks/index.html[/URL]
When SARS was going around, they didn't work then.
It is just for show kinda like TSA and simulate agencies.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2427936]So basically the same rationale as security guard pat-downs at restaurants, malls, the light rail, government buildings, and so on? The appearance of doing something, but with no tangible outcome.[/QUOTE]Pretty much, the only outcome is additional employment.
I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?
Hi RW,
You are not alone.
I had to change my work trip due to the breakout.
My summer diving trip is also on hold till I can see clearly.
I love our M activities, but I prefer to keep my health as well.
Better be safe more than sorry.
Vic.
[QUOTE=RickysWild;2428046]I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RickysWild;2428046]I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?[/QUOTE]You're not alone. I have germaphobe friends trying to convince me to cancel my late April trip to the Philippines, as well as an early April trip from the east coast of the states to Anaheim, California. The current advice from the W. H. O. Is to not cancel travel, but take precautions. Principal precaution is hand sanitizer after touching other people, door knobs, etc. Easy to do that on an airplane. What I'm more concerned about, as I probably telegraphed earlier, is getting flight banned or quarantined in Manila, Tokyo or San Francisco.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2427892]Because the only thing it is going to tell you is that someone is hot. [URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29459896[/URL][/QUOTE]The article is not about sensing temperature, its about fake devices being sold to detect bombs. I assume you are alluding to the temp-sensing lasers as being fake or not working. Also, in a quarantining situation regarding fever as a symptom, one of the first and least invasive symptoms to discover is fever. We are going to want to isolate everyone with a fever, and that will probably mean also initially isolating anyone with a suspected fever until it can be determined that the person does not have the virus. If the person claims they are hot only because they were outside in the sun, or exercising, then re-testing temperature a few minutes later will remove these false-negatives quickly from the isolation pool.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2427982]Because the people that are experts at this say so.
[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/thermometer-guns-screening-for-coronavirus-notoriously-not-accurate-2020-2[/URL]
[URL]https://qz.com/1806728/coronavirus-we-need-to-rethink-the-design-of-the-temperature-gun/[/URL]
[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/19/health/coronavirus-airport-temperature-checks/index.html[/URL]
When SARS was going around, they didn't work then.
It is just for show kinda like TSA and simulate agencies.[/QUOTE]To make the case. One of these articles says that the system of using the laser-temp devices were only successful in about half the cases. That might sound bad, but even if the devices catch only a small percentage of persons with fever, this would be considered successful, as many of those fevered persons might have the virus. Annoying the many, to protect the many? I agree, its a bit TSA-ish in approach and scope. Will PM you with some other info KG.
[QUOTE=RickysWild;2428046]I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?[/QUOTE]The plane is not the problem. Sharing Pinay pussy with infectious mongers from China, Korean, and Italy who do BBFSCIP is a bigger concern. The China virus gives "dying for a fuck" a completely new meaning.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2428231]You're not alone. I have germaphobe friends trying to convince me to cancel my late April trip to the Philippines, as well as an early April trip from the east coast of the states to Anaheim, California. The current advice from the W. H. O. Is to not cancel travel, but take precautions. Principal precaution is hand sanitizer after touching other people, door knobs, etc. Easy to do that on an airplane. What I'm more concerned about, as I probably telegraphed earlier, is getting flight banned or quarantined in Manila, Tokyo or San Francisco.[/QUOTE]You're right but if the OP is concerned enough to raise questions on this board I would recommend delaying his trip. Not because of the probability of contracting Carona but looking over his shoulder every 5 minutes and being constantly worried would suck big time and is not conducive to an enjoyable trip. Better to delay to when he can have a good time with fewer concerns.
Of course if it doesn't concern you then a holiday devoid of K and CHN competition and girls desperate for cash certainly has its benefits. 😀.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=RickysWild;2428046]Am I alone?[/QUOTE]You are not alone.
I was in Phil between 25 Jan. Up to 15 Feb with a stop in HKG on both arrival and departure.
I did all my trip as usual in manila, cebu, Palawan, Bohol without any specific precautions, only washing hands with alcoholic solution.
I had a temp control when exiting the ferry at Bohol wharf, also a questionnaire to fill in the ferry before arrival but the guy didn't take it back so I still have it with me. Was on 8th of Feb.
Also in HKG airport no specific actions or information, only frontal temperature checked once, and in the flight from HKG to Swiss no masks for the crew.
Then arrived in France no specific actions also.
But, by security I did a 14 days quarantine on myself to avoid any risks for my family and friends. Nothing happens.
[QUOTE=RickysWild;2428046]I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?[/QUOTE]No, you are not alone. I have trip planned middle of March to Philippines and Thailand. I have been watching and reading about Corona Virus. Unless airlines cancel flights I am not going to get refund. Hotels also may loose one night charge.
I am not so worried about getting sick in Philippines and Thailand and will take usual precautions but not sure who these girls have been with. Will I enjoy or regret going?
Also what if when I come back USA will ask me to go on quarantine. That is going to put a bummer. How to explain to my family and friends where I went and why I went. I keep my travels secret. Although I am going direct to Philippines and no stops anywhere still has me worried.
Philippine girls are always sniffling mainly because of their living conditions and pollution. Will it take the fun away. Will I get spooked? What if my neighbor in the plane is coughing. I believe Philippines is understating the threat. For that matter possibly Thailand also.
I guess I need to play it by ear and start making calls to see what's the damage if I cancel. Problem is I always book flights, hotels and chat and agree with the girls for stay and fun well before. Some are real pretty and showed their bodies on cam. All are as I understand normal girls.
Just chatting to one of my regulars. It seems she is getting desperate with no customers there. Trying to sell me cam or video, unfortunately for her there is so much porn on the net why bother. I did my bit with a goodbye fuck on my second last night.
[QUOTE=RickysWild;2428046]I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?[/QUOTE]I would suggest wearing a N95 Mask and using alcohol or a good sanitizer during your whole flight.
When I was in Cebu I saw lots of people wearing mask, now that I'm in the province I don't see that many people wearing mask. Actually I saw a mass wedding in Bacolod last week, it was open to the public, 220 couples getting married while wearing masks, that happened on February 20 (2/20/2020).
I personally don't like wearing mask so I don't wear one, not even in the long bus rides (8+ hours trip), what I do always is bring alcohol with me and clean my hands all the time.
One thing I notice is that some airbnb condos will ask you for your travel info if they know you are a tourist. I got lucky that I arrived early in the Philippines (January 10) before the Corona Virus exploded worldwide, so they didn't asked me that many questions. But if you arrived in the Philippines late January for sure they will ask you alot of questions about your health and your where a bouts. Good thing I'm here for 6 months, hopefully by July or August there are not that many flight restrictions, but I doubt it, it seems this virus will stay here for a while longer.
Looks like we may have difficulty traveling to the Philippines if connecting through Narita. Am I reading this right?
[URL]https://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/02/27/20/japan-may-be-included-in-phs-covid-19-travel-ban-duque[/URL]
RG.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2428661]Looks like we may have difficulty traveling to the Philippines if connecting through Narita. Am I reading this right?
[URL]https://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/02/27/20/japan-may-be-included-in-phs-covid-19-travel-ban-duque[/URL]
RG.[/QUOTE]Well it is not today. Because I am in Narita waiting for my Manila flight right now.
In the plane and at the airport a bunch of people had on masks. Nothing different going on at the airports. Out in the city (Manila) nobody has any masks on. At the concierge podium outside at the hotel, there is a thermometer. Looks to be the kind you stick into the ear.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2428901]In the plane and at the airport a bunch of people had on masks. Nothing different going on at the airports. Out in the city (Manila) nobody has any masks on. At the concierge podium outside at the hotel, there is a thermometer. Looks to be the kind you stick into the ear.[/QUOTE]Well, hopefully the status quo will continue for awhile. I'm flying to Manila via Narita in mid-March, and worried about flight cancellations.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2428667]Well it is not today. Because I am in Narita waiting for my Manila flight right now.[/QUOTE]Transiting thru NRT was the secondary security gone?
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2428996]Transiting thru NRT was the secondary security gone?[/QUOTE]Like I said before, you only do that security going back to the USA.
Hate to Disagree.
Japan / Narita requires security screen for Thru Flight (Connecting Flights) International passengers both directions.
[URL]https://www.narita-airport.jp/en/security/connection/connection_ss/[/URL]
Sorry.
Rainman.
Like I said before, you only do that security going back to the USA.
Well, it's started. United just canceled my flights to / from Manila connecting through Narita.
[QUOTE=RainmanSahut;2429022]Hate to Disagree.
Japan / Narita requires security screen for Thru Flight (Connecting Flights) International passengers both directions.
[URL]https://www.narita-airport.jp/en/security/connection/connection_ss/[/URL]
Sorry.
Rainman.
Like I said before, you only do that security going back to the USA.[/QUOTE]LOL. How could you disagree when I just did it yesterday? Okay, technically you are screened because they ask you the questions about your belongings. But you and your stuff do not have to go through a machine.
Just a simple question. If Filipinas were not universally considered as the most promiscuous women on the planet, would any tourists bother going to the Philippines?
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2429444]Just a simple question. If Filipinas were not universally considered as the most promiscuous women on the planet, would any tourists bother going to the Philippines?[/QUOTE]Some of the best scuba diving in the world is in PI. I don't go places just for promiscuous women. If you look on the internet, there is loads of that in my own damn country.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2429444]Just a simple question. If Filipinas were not universally considered as the most promiscuous women on the planet, would any tourists bother going to the Philippines?[/QUOTE]There are tourists and there are mongers. Tourists are there to enjoy new countries and places. If sex is there they will partake but that is not the primary reason they go there.
Mongers like me go to countries primarily for girls and will go sightseeing, water sports etc. There are many countries known for it not just Philippines.
Promiscuous women are there everywhere but in Philippines they do not care for the age difference. I am talking about regular girls. Prostitutes will sleep with anybody for money.
More and more bargirls in many countries nowadays have a choice of who they go with and who they do not although they are considered prostitutes. Bars used to angry with girls who do not barfine because most of the money is from barfine. I do not know if they let go of the girls for that reason.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2429444]Just a simple question. If Filipinas were not universally considered as the most promiscuous women on the planet, would any tourists bother going to the Philippines?[/QUOTE]As a Filipino, my answer is I don't know. Probably because I am someone who prefers traveling to Europe during my free time. Depends on one's interest though as mine is sightseeing castles, churches, and other old buildings. I am also attracted to white girls as well. That is just me though.
For those who like airbnb (including myself): [URL]https://www.wired.co.uk/article/airbnb-scam-london-suspended?utm_source=digg&utm_medium=email[/URL].
[QUOTE=RickysWild;2428046]I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?[/QUOTE]I have been reading the NY Times daily Coronavirus Briefing and the news coming out of China where most of the data is coming says that most infections are family related, and infections emanating from casual contact are the exception to the rule.
[URL]https://messaging-custom-newsletters.nytimes.com/template/oakv2?uri=nyt://newsletter/b1de8072-2e49-4dd0-8135-307998970c1c&productCode=CB&te=1&nl=coronavirus-briefing&emc=edit_cb_20200304&campaign_id=154&instance_id=16486&segment_id=21875&user_id=ba374183ba7eefb8e43aca32c048e7c7®i_id=71045823[/URL]
[QUOTE=RickysWild;2428046]I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?[/QUOTE]No you are not alone. Many people are canceling or delaying their trips. I personally think the risks are way overblown and hyped by the media so I have not cancelled my upcoming trip although with the decreased airline demand there is a possibility that my United flight through Tokyo may be cancelled or merged with others. I have my fingers crossed this does not happen, but we will see what we see.
As to fellow passengers sneezing & coughing on the plane: I hate that! But I believe that particular risk is way down from normal due to the extraordinary pre flight screening that is going on at all major international airports due to the virus. I also think the risk of catching the disease in the PI, Thailand, Vietnam, or Indonesia is significantly less than the risk of catching it in the Northern hemisphere like in Italy or the USA and I think that the risk in the North is low, but if you are nervous about it then cancel or postpone your trip. I am sure SE Asia will still be around when you decide it is safe. For me, I think it is relatively safe now and I am going unless new data hits the fan or my flight is cancelled. I think now is a really great time to be in SE ASia. I hear the girls are very lonely. LOL. I am in good health. I will take rational precautions just as I would to avoid the flu. I don't think there is much to worry about. I could be wrong, ha ha, but statistically, I don't think so.
Over the past several weeks on my United flights through Narita and Frankfurt, no United employees were masked. In the airports, most of Asiatics were masked, but very few westerners, whether they could get masks or not who knows. I bought a nice 3 M respirator (only $30) and actually wore it walking through the airport and on the plane (nrt-ewr) -- until mealtime. It's a nice little device, easy to wear and totally eliminates bad air smell in addition to virus (although as noted, virus can infect via the eyes, so get yourself protective googles, too.).
[QUOTE=RickysWild;2428046]I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?[/QUOTE]Are you afraid of catching it en route or at your destination? You could just as well catch it at home too. There is nobody on the flights to worry about catching it in the air. And the people that are in planes are wearing masks. Don't know how they eat with them on though.
The other day I was talking to my mom. She said I should be in the States instead of Asia. I said no way. Things are just fine in this part of Asia. She said if I got sick it would be better to die at home. I told her that if I was dead it would not matter where I was. I told her she should come to Asia. The next day there were 2 cases announced in our city. She sent me a message joking saying she was on her way to Asia.
If it is your time then you are out of here. Haven't you seen the Final Destination series? Live it up and have fun while you are here. Don't let a little disease deter you.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2430863]Over the past several weeks on my United flights through Narita and Frankfurt, no United employees were masked. In the airports, most of Asiatics were masked, but very few westerners, whether they could get masks or not who knows. I bought a nice 3 M respirator (only $30) and actually wore it walking through the airport and on the plane (nrt-ewr) -- until mealtime. It's a nice little device, easy to wear and totally eliminates bad air smell in addition to virus (although as noted, virus can infect via the eyes, so get yourself protective googles, too.).[/QUOTE]For that matter it is better to wear Hazmat suite. However there are infinite ways to catch the virus if there is a carrier on board.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2431002]For that matter it is better to wear Hazmat suite. However there are infinite ways to catch the virus if there is a carrier on board.[/QUOTE]Of course, do whatever works for you, and your peace of mind. In Manila airport, it's nice of them giving out free small plastic containers of virus killing liquid and blue soap. Every airport and every airline, like every person is just following their own rules here. No consistency or uniformity.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2430863]Over the past several weeks on my United flights through Narita and Frankfurt, no United employees were masked. In the airports, most of Asiatics were masked, but very few westerners, whether they could get masks or not who knows. I bought a nice 3 M respirator (only $30) and actually wore it walking through the airport and on the plane (nrt-ewr) -- until mealtime. It's a nice little device, easy to wear and totally eliminates bad air smell in addition to virus (although as noted, virus can infect via the eyes, so get yourself protective googles, too.).[/QUOTE]From CDC:
[QUOTE]Follow CDC’s recommendations for using a facemask.
CDC does not recommend that people who are well wear a facemask to protect themselves from respiratory diseases, including COVID-19.
Facemasks should be used by people who show symptoms of COVID-19 to help prevent the spread of the disease to others.[/QUOTE]There is no health reason for a healthy person to wear a face mask.
Social media maybe the reason for people wearing them.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2431350]From CDC:
There is no health reason for a healthy person to wear a face mask.
Social media maybe the reason for people wearing them.[/QUOTE]If I was traveling international, I'd wear a face mask. It would prevent me from unconsciously scratching my nose / lips / lower face with possibly contaminated fingers; I'd have to remove the mask to do so. Which would remind me to sanitize first, or wash my hands.
I'd wear glasses for the same protection for my eyes. It won't help against airborne pathogens would prevent me from rubbing the possible virus on my hands into my eyes.
So wearing a mask is high on the benefits / cost curve, and has no risk. Now, wearing gloves would be useless.
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2431578]If I was traveling international, I'd wear a face mask. It would prevent me from unconsciously scratching my nose / lips / lower face with possibly contaminated fingers; I'd have to remove the mask to do so. Which would remind me to sanitize first, or wash my hands.
[/QUOTE]Yes, but that is not the reason everybody else is wearing them. Besides that, they are not wearing the right kind.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2431598]Yes, but that is not the reason everybody else is wearing them. Besides that, they are not wearing the right kind.[/QUOTE]Yes correct again. Too many are wearing 'dust' masks which helps them nought in respect of viruses. Its psychological, people feel safer wearing what in effect are dust masks. Senior Health Experts say the only ones who need to wear the appropriate masks (N95 , P2 , where I come from), are those WITH the virus.
Lots have also bought the WRONG hand sanitizers from their local Supermarket. The Saniterzer has to have 60% or more alcohol content to be effective. The ones they are buying apply to germs, not viruses.
"Stay at home" says the Doctor. Not easy to do, LOL.
Hi M S.
You are well informed.
As well, the Right mask only lasts MAX 4 hours!
The mask budget might exceed the mongering budget after some time LOL.
Vic.
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2431605]Yes correct again. Too many are wearing 'dust' masks which helps them nought in respect of viruses. Its psychological, people feel safer wearing what in effect are dust masks. Senior Health Experts say the only ones who need to wear the appropriate masks (N95 , P2 , where I come from), are those WITH the virus.
Lots have also bought the WRONG hand sanitizers from their local Supermarket. The Saniterzer has to have 60% or more alcohol content to be effective. The ones they are buying apply to germs, not viruses.
"Stay at home" says the Doctor. Not easy to do, LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VictorHugo99;2431729]Hi M S.
You are well informed.
As well, the Right mask only lasts MAX 4 hours!
The mask budget might exceed the mongering budget after some time LOL.
Vic.[/QUOTE]And I have just learnt, the masks are made in Wuhan, home of the virus!
Guys, I have fucked up my next flights and will be departing on my 31st day.
Will I be able to sweet talk a 31 day VOA? If not, can I extend on arrival day at NAIA?
I paid the fine at NAIA Departure once before so am reluctant to do it again lest I make it on some undesirable overstayer list.
I'm hunting in the Province so getting back to a Immigration office for a 1 day extension is going to be a major PITA.
Ideas?
Thanks. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2432049]Guys, I have fucked up my next flights and will be departing on my 31st day.
Will I be able to sweet talk a 31 day VOA? If not, can I extend on arrival day at NAIA?
I paid the fine at NAIA Departure once before so am reluctant to do it again lest I make it on some undesirable overstayer list.
I'm hunting in the Province so getting back to a Immigration office for a 1 day extension is going to be a major PITA.
Ideas?
Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]If I remember correctly, they do not count the day of entry. So you might be just 30 days there. Ask the immigration person for the date of your 30 days to be sure.
Otherwise there are many BI offices through out PH. Many province BI offices are easy to get extension without long wait.
Go to BI website for locations. One time I extended in Davao and it was a very pleasant experience.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2432058]Otherwise there are many BI offices through out PH. Many province BI offices are easy to get extension without long wait.
Go to BI website for locations. One time I extended in Davao and it was a very pleasant experience.[/QUOTE]Extended in a Mindanao province recently. Decided to go early, when they opened up at 8 am. I was the only non-employee there. Filled out the form and dropped off the required documents, then sat and waited 5 minutes. Then I paid and got a receipt (1 hour processing), sat for another 5 minutes. Then a lady called my name and handed me back all my documents and the extension. "Have a good day sir". Thanks! Total less than 15 minutes. Not a single other customer walked in while I was there.
Thanks guys. After a little more research, I think DG's comments are correct and the clock starts on the day after arrival. So arrive on the 1st and leave on the 31st is ok.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2432058]Go to BI website for locations. One time I extended in Davao and it was a very pleasant experience.[/QUOTE]I guess at the BI queue, there will always be an errant DH to entertain.
I know y'all love Jolibee:
[URL]https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3074285/philippine-fast-food-giant-jollibee-loses-us2-billion[/URL]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2432172]Extended in a Mindanao province recently. Decided to go early, when they opened up at 8 am. ...... Total less than 15 minutes. Not a single other customer walked in while I was there.[/QUOTE]
I have always beenn and out quick at government pffoices if I can get there as soon as they open. People here are just not morning people.
Renewed my SRRV, in and out in less than 45 minutes, good to go for 3 years, most of that time was waiting for them to print the plastic card.
My girlfriend just hit me up and said President Duterte just ordered the lock down of Manila starting March 15 until April 14. Land, domestic air and sea travel coming in and going out of Manila is not allowed starting March 15.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2433340]My girlfriend just hit me up and said President Duterte just ordered the lock down of Manila starting March 15 until April 14. Land, domestic air and sea travel coming in and going out of Manila is not allowed starting March 15.[/QUOTE]Here's a link verifying the above:
[URL]https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/12/20/coronavirus-philippines-metro-manila-lockdown[/URL]
Its over!
No more Tourists allowed from countries with Corona to enter the Philippines.
[URL]https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/3/12/Philippines-expands-travel-ban-to-all-countries-with-local-COVID-19-transmission.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2433470]Its over!
No more Tourists allowed from countries with Corona to enter the Philippines.
[URL]https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/3/12/Philippines-expands-travel-ban-to-all-countries-with-local-COVID-19-transmission.html[/URL][/QUOTE]It is unclear what countries are included. US? So far, United hasn't canceled my flight from Houston to Manila.
For those contemplating a visit here, I'the urge you to reconsider postponing your travel. Manila goes into lockdown mode tomorrow. Davao and General Santos City are already in lockdown. Angeles City has imposed severe restrictions on who gets into or out of the city. In Davao, where I live, the official proclamation From the local government mandates that no residents may leave; that all visitors must leave, and that those considering travel here are urged to postpone the travel until the emergency ends. My guess is that many cities are going to follow this lead and attempt to seal themselves off from the rest of the country for a month or two. According to the most recent announcement from the President, "social distancing" will be rigidly enforced by the PNP and AFP, which doesn't create a happy situation for bars encouraging social closeness.
Here is Davao, which I assume to be at least somewhat representative of the other larger cities in the country, serious hoarding has already begun, and I'm guessing that it won't be long before we witness perturbations of the supply chains that allow restaurants and food sellers to restock. My impression, for whatever it's worth, is that the national government here is serious about trying to contain this virus and it's not messing around. I note as well that per President Duterte, the AFP is now authorized to make arrests of those who do not comply.
Again, just my opinion as someone who's noting the changes to daily life here in Davao.
GE.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2433470]Its over!
No more Tourists allowed from countries with Corona to enter the Philippines.
[URL]https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/3/12/Philippines-expands-travel-ban-to-all-countries-with-local-COVID-19-transmission.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I just don't understand all the drama over Covid19. Like the flu if you catch it, you will 98% get well, then you are immune. Folks with other poor heath issues "might" die but that has always been the case with virus illnesses. Our Fearless leaders are getting press time telling us how concerned for us they are. Chicken Littles.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2433520]...Our Fearless leaders are getting press time telling us how concerned for us they are. Chicken Littles.[/QUOTE]It's not about you, it's about the health care system as a whole. I don't really care that much about nursing home residents, prisoners, or the homeless, but when they get deathly sick (and they will), it will paralyze the hospitals. It's happened in Italy. I mean, I think you'll change your tune if you're in a car crash, or shot, or fall off a roof and there're no ambulances, no respirators and not doctors.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2433515]For those contemplating a visit here, I'the urge you to reconsider postponing your travel. Manila goes into lockdown mode tomorrow. GE.[/QUOTE]"The Ninoy Aquino International Airport will remain open for international flights but passengers must be from and are going to stay in Metro Manila. For those who will go to the provinces, passengers must fly via the Clark International Airport, Nograles said. ".
So Clark Airport will still be open for domestic flights.
[URL]https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/13/20/what-is-community-quarantine-lockdown-metro-manila-philippines[/URL]
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2433541]It's not about you, it's about the health care system as a whole. I don't really care that much about nursing home residents, prisoners, or the homeless, but when they get deathly sick (and they will), it will paralyze the hospitals. It's happened in Italy. I mean, I think you'll change your tune if you're in a car crash, or shot, or fall off a roof and there're no ambulances, no respirators and not doctors.[/QUOTE]You are spot on. The lives of millions of people are being disrupted through illness, death, job losses, school closures, hospital meltdowns and general fear of the unknown. The stock market has crashed 30% in a month. Further global disruption will continue because of the Wuhan virus.
Meanwhile, a bunch of septuagenarian mongers from white man land are deeply concerned they won't be able to travel to Flipsville to find a place to stick their shriveled, marshmallow cocks into. I'm glad the mongers have their priorities right.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2433520]I just don't understand all the drama over Covid19. Like the flu if you catch it, you will 98% get well, then you are immune. Folks with other poor heath issues "might" die but that has always been the case with virus illnesses. Our Fearless leaders are getting press time telling us how concerned for us they are. Chicken Littles.[/QUOTE]This mass hysteria for what is essentially another flu strain is a bad sign. IMO it shows how many anxious and crazy people are out there and how many corrupt and dishonest politicians and media outlets are willing to exploit their anxieties for personal gain.
International flights will continue except from countries with confirmed local transmission of COVID-19. A list of these countries has yet to be made public so nothing is certain right now.
A different take on disease. An opinion article in today's Manila Bulletin, regarding the cash (the 20 and 50 notes) being terribly old and not taken out of circulation, as a possible cause of disease spread.
[URL]https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/03/12/dirty-money/[/URL]
[I]Im more concerned with the dirty money that I received as change during my Saturday and Sunday outings. I shopped a bit, had lunch, merienda, dinner at different shops, and each time the change I was given came in the form of diseased, filthy, germ-ridden bills, in 50s and mostly 20s. There were so many 20s when it could have been a few 100s! The overflow of small change was not a coincidence, it could only have been because the storeowners had been given a ton of 20s by their bank to dispose of.
Are the banks in general, and Bangko Sentral in particular, aware that dirty paper money can be a carrier of the dreaded CoVid-19? In the US, bills from China are being quarantined for 7 to 10 days instead of the usual 5 to 7 as a precaution against the spread of the virus. Lets hope that President Duterte, whose presidential security (inner circle) are now trying to shield him from the virus with a no touch policy, wont need to touch the small change in his wallet (or Kittys).[/I]
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2433589]...Meanwhile, a bunch of septuagenarian mongers from white man land are deeply concerned they won't be able to travel to Flipsville to find a place to stick their shriveled, marshmallow cocks into...[/QUOTE]Oh, dude. You're hurting me! Nothin' good about being septuagenarianism. Don't do it! I once imagined being this old, but I never imagined I would have to pay for pussy -- that's the worst (especially to fuck a fat woman). Yes, my dick is now a weak marshmellow and I am very sad about it. I don't know what is worse to me, deteriorating vision or a marshmellow dick. I realized fairly early on that I lucked out with superb vision: shooting, hunting, climbing, sailing, flying. I could always read the smallest letters on the vision charts, and everyone remarked on it. It was something I had, that I was given, that I was proud of. Now it's gone to shit. I didn't realize that I got pretty much the same luck with my dick until in my thirties or forties when I heard my peers complain about theirs. Alas, now, my steadfast, reliable dick has turned into a. Marshmellow (sigh). Problem is, your tissues just disintegrate with age. Not really anything you can do about it. I felt pretty good at 60.71, not so much.
(Actually, maybe the most distressing failure is my skin. If I get within sight of a sharp rock or a rusty nail, I start bleeding!
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2433589]Meanwhile, a bunch of septuagenarian mongers from white man land are deeply concerned they won't be able to travel to Flipsville to find a place to stick their shriveled, marshmallow cocks into. I'm glad the mongers have their priorities right.[/QUOTE]Since when has mongering been an honorable pastime? Fat, old, white guys have been travelling to fuck debt bonded sex slaves for years before any virus arrived.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2433633]A different take on disease. An opinion article in today's Manila Bulletin, regarding the cash (the 20 and 50 notes) .[/QUOTE]I'm surprised you bothered to post this. Anything could be carrying any number of germs so this story is just a beat up.
The research so far I snot conclusive as to the length of time CoVID19 might last on a surface. Apparently stainless steal is at the higher end. Porous surfaces such as paper money, is at the lower end. So really coins could be more of an issue but it's all relative. How about ashing hands regularly which deals with all the surfaces we touch like door handles, taps, railings.
Then I have to think about DFK my local filipina and chinese girls. Lack of money is a bigger issue for me.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2433794]I'm surprised you bothered to post this.[/QUOTE]Because its food for thought. The opinion wasn't mine, it is the author's. I should have posted 'FYI' at the top. Its possible others might find it interesting or useful. Anything that passes from one person to others regularly might be of interest these days.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2433794]The research so far I snot conclusive as to the length of time CoVID19 might last on a surface. Apparently stainless steal is at the higher end. Porous surfaces such as paper money, is at the lower end. So really coins could be more of an issue but it's all relative. How about ashing hands regularly which deals with all the surfaces we touch like door handles, taps, railings.[/QUOTE]All good info. Should others be surprised you bothered to post it?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2433814]
All good info. Should others be surprised you bothered to post it?[/QUOTE]Fair call. It's up to them. I just find the standard of opinion in MB generally is so un-informed I stopped reading them.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2433715]Oh, dude. You're hurting me! Nothin' good about being septuagenarianism. Don't do it! I once imagined being this old, but I never imagined I would have to pay for pussy -- that's the worst (especially to fuck a fat woman). Yes, my dick is now a weak marshmellow and I am very sad about it. I don't know what is worse to me, deteriorating vision or a marshmellow dick. I realized fairly early on that I lucked out with superb vision: shooting, hunting, climbing, sailing, flying. I could always read the smallest letters on the vision charts, and everyone remarked on it. It was something I had, that I was given, that I was proud of. Now it's gone to shit. I didn't realize that I got pretty much the same luck with my dick until in my thirties or forties when I heard my peers complain about theirs. Alas, now, my steadfast, reliable dick has turned into a. Marshmellow (sigh). Problem is, your tissues just disintegrate with age. Not really anything you can do about it. I felt pretty good at 60.71, not so much.
(Actually, maybe the most distressing failure is my skin. If I get within sight of a sharp rock or a rusty nail, I start bleeding![/QUOTE]There are many septuagenarians with marshmallow dicks chasing young Pinays at great expense to their meager pensions. They cannot really fuck the girls because of the marshmallow dick factor. One may wonder why they bother wasting their limited funds at all. However, septuagenarians do enjoy having their soft marshmallow dicks sucked by innocent-looking young Pinays. Luckily, Pinays think sucking on a withered vinegar-flavored marshmallow for a few thousand peso is easy money.
Having to fly halfway around the world to pay for pussy is nothing to brag about but septuagenarians have no choice in the matter. The young women at home would never let them near their pussies for anything less than a million dollars and would want the deed over with as quickly as possible.
Is anyone noticing any impact of virus fears on mongering?
Are girls more hesitant to meet now? Have they changed any behaviours? Less likely to kiss?
I am in Moalboal and have had a couple girls refuse to come from Cebu citing virus fears, mostly around not being allowed back into the city in case a lock down is declared when they are out but one was afraid to travel on public transportation. (Of course that could just be excuses that they don't want to come right out and say no directly.).
Anyone else seeing changed behaviours?
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2433957]There are many septuagenarians with marshmallow dicks chasing young Pinays at great expense to their meager pensions. They cannot really fuck the girls because of the marshmallow dick factor. One may wonder why they bother wasting their limited funds at all. However, septuagenarians do enjoy having their soft marshmallow dicks sucked by innocent-looking young Pinays. Luckily, Pinays think sucking on a withered vinegar-flavored marshmallow for a few thousand peso is easy money.
Having to fly halfway around the world to pay for pussy is nothing to brag about but septuagenarians have no choice in the matter. The young women at home would never let them near their pussies for anything less than a million dollars and would want the deed over with as quickly as possible.[/QUOTE]As to all your veiled insults for us old guys, I for one can honestly tell you my banana still works perfectly well, although a little slower than it used to and not as often and I have no complaints from my 24 yr old gwapa, tall and sexy body pinay g / f. The only complaints I see are the other foreigners p*ssed off to see an old guy like me with a woman they have trouble getting without paying a lot. And she is helping with my rent and food bills for a job I helped her find (not soliciting) I deflowered her and now she willingly takes instruction during our sessions quite well since I taught her most everything she knows. It's like Burger King. I get to have it my way.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2434099]Is anyone noticing any impact of virus fears on mongering?
Are girls more hesitant to meet now? Have they changed any behaviours? Less likely to kiss?
I am in Moalboal and have had a couple girls refuse to come from Cebu citing virus fears, mostly around not being allowed back into the city in case a lock down is declared when they are out but one was afraid to travel on public transportation. (Of course that could just be excuses that they don't want to come right out and say no directly.).
Anyone else seeing changed behaviours?[/QUOTE]Mongers are more hesitant to meet hookers now. The Wuhan virus is particularly lethal to mongers in the 70-90 age bracket, so it is they who are staying away. I should point out the majority of mongers on the Phils board fall within that age group and they have reluctantly accepted that they might have to wait a year before getting their vinegar flavored marshmallow cocks sucked again by innocent looking Pinays. In the meantime, fetching their own beers at 10.00 am and fapping to Trike Patrol might have to suffice. In any case, their pension funds have taken a heavy battering and the returns will be so poor that they won't be in a position to even buy a heavily discounted coach class fare.
On the other hand Messrs Trainwreck and Reach around have no such problems. The chicks still prefer the studs, Wuhan virus or no Wuhan virus.
First of all my apologies if this is in the wrong section but I think this is badly needed, as there are most likely a lot of other mongers like me who intend to travel with current bookings but are uncertain of where they stand.
I would like us to be able to share official confirmed information, not speculation or rumour or something you over heard at a bar.
This morning a few hours ago the UK Philippines embassy confirmed a ban on traveler's from the UK and Ireland. Now that information does not seem to be there anymore. It says a ban does not cover inbound flights from the UK and Ireland, there does however seem to be domestic travel restrictions around Manila as well as to and from the airport.
I'm due to travel from Ireland on the 14th April. Does anyone have any input, again from official sources.
[URL]https://londonpe.dfa.gov.ph/[/URL]
Her: Babe, Pasay City is declared under the state of calamity.
Her: Malls will be closed because of the lock down.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2434346]I'm due to travel from Ireland on the 14th April. Does anyone have any input, again from official sources.[/QUOTE]Dude. Official sources do not know what is going to happen tomorrow, and you want to know about April 14? This thing will have to get under control before anything. My guess is that you will be staying in Ireland.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2434099]I am in Moalboal and have had a couple girls refuse to come from Cebu citing virus fears, mostly around not being allowed back into the city in case a lock down is declared when they are out but one was afraid to travel on public transportation. (Of course that could just be excuses that they don't want to come right out and say no directly.).
Anyone else seeing changed behaviours?[/QUOTE]A solid yes. Newb girls who were dying to meet a few days prior to my arrival in their province were fairly candid: "Sorry. Corona. After the lockdown is over maybe we meet". Wait, sweetie, I'm here now, and there is no lockdown here. "Yes but Manila" and "too many die from it maybe you have" and "Not going out from our home now". Traveled after that to another province, several hours on the bus, and when I got logged into the Internet in the second province, the first province declared calamity. Two of my regulars in the new province, knowing for weeks that I was coming, were suddenly unwilling to even leave their homes out of fear. "You stay till middle April I come then". Great! And: "My mother knows I go to you she say no". Oh, I remember, its because I was an asshole when I took your brother's money playing cards last time, right? "Yes but its because corona". Great! I'm an asshole PLUS I'm not getting laid.
Thanks Corona!
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2434099]Is anyone noticing any impact of virus fears on mongering?
Are girls more hesitant to meet now? Have they changed any behaviours? Less likely to kiss?
I am in Moalboal and have had a couple girls refuse to come from Cebu citing virus fears, mostly around not being allowed back into the city in case a lock down is declared when they are out but one was afraid to travel on public transportation. (Of course that could just be excuses that they don't want to come right out and say no directly.).
Anyone else seeing changed behaviours?[/QUOTE]The world has gone mad. They are treating this like the bubonic plague or similar. It's the FLU. Might be a tad more deadly if your old, but it's still the flu. Yeah the pinay concerns are real. Cebu is closed to people from Dumaguete. It's total be. S. And the motivations of these pols are suspect, never mind the mindless hysteria of many of the Filipinos.
Enhanced Community Quarantine for Luzon.
1. By virtue of an Executive Order of the Office of the President we will have a Luzon-wide community quarantine.
2. We will have a curfew of 8 pm to 5 am for non-essential personnel on the streets. Exempted are health care workers, peace and order officers, workers from the night shift of the Processing zones with valid ID's, and LGU officers.
3. Malls are ordered closed for the duration of the executive order.
4. Restaurants can only accept take-home and delivery services. Dine in is strictly prohibited.
5. Banks, groceries, supermarkets, pharmacies, pawn shops, hardwares, and wet markets will remain open.
6. Fiestas, karakols, parades, and other related public assemblies are cancelled.
7. Common religious congregations are strongly discouraged.
8. Gaming parlours, computer gaming shops, wellness Centers, cockpits arenas, will be closed.
9. Students on OJT are no longer required to report.
10. Needless loitering in the streets at any time of the day will be denied.
11. Public playgrounds, basketball courts, beaches, and public parks will be closed.
12. Public utility offices, Bayad centers, and related financial services will remain open.
13. 'Tianges', open dry good markets, side walk vending, will be closed.
14. This will become effective March 17, at 12:01 am.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2434802]Enhanced Community Quarantine for Luzon.
1. By virtue of an Executive Order of the Office of the President we will have a Luzon-wide community quarantine.
2. We will have a curfew of 8 pm to 5 am for non-essential personnel on the streets. Exempted are health care workers, peace and order officers, workers from the night shift of the Processing zones with valid ID's, and LGU officers..[/QUOTE]Thanks for that important post.
That's the kind of info we need, not complaints from a Monger that a girls mother will not let her daughter out to be fucked by a potentially virus positive person, who insists she takes the risk for P1000. Some of the Mongers are showing less sense than the girls themselves. Where I come from, we call those guys "dickheads" , that is, the penis head is making the decisions.
Isolation is the way. Be kind to your penis, LOL.
[QUOTE=TurdyCurdyOne;2434763]The world has gone mad. They are treating this like the bubonic plague or similar. It's the FLU. Might be a tad more deadly if your old, but it's still the flu. Yeah the pinay concerns are real. Cebu is closed to people from Dumaguete. It's total be. S. And the motivations of these pols are suspect, never mind the mindless hysteria of many of the Filipinos.[/QUOTE]Isolation is the best way to contain this pandemic. There simply aren't enough ICU beds in the world to cope with the expected cases of elderly people who will need treatment. We can't afford to have the aged getting sick as most health systems in the world will meltdown, as it has in Italy. If ICU beds aren't available, how do you treat the 20 year old car accident victim? Doctors will have to prioritise.
This might be just "the flu" for those under 50, but the over 70 aged group is particularly affected. Apparently it's like drowning in air, and the damage to the lungs is long lasting. We don't want the young passing it to the old, hence the restriction in social contact. The two month lockdown in China appears to have worked.
The hysteria is not just confined to Filipinos. I live in rich white man land and the behaviour of the people here is also irrational. Some people have filled their entire double garage, floor to ceiling, with toilet paper, pasta, rice and hand sanitiser. People are pulling out knives in supermarkets at the toilet paper aisles.
Mongers will just have to pack away their dicks for the next six months and take up a more useful hobby. One that perhaps exercises their brains a bit more. You'the be surprised how easy it is to forget about chasing Pinay pussy and get along with normal life.
This might quite possibly be the best advice you receive on the Wuhan virus.
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-LZzvS2nZqY[/URL]
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2434893]
Mongers will just have to pack away their dicks for the next six months and take up a more useful hobby. One that perhaps exercises their brains a bit more. You'the be surprised how easy it is to forget about chasing Pinay pussy and get along with normal life.[/QUOTE]That's going to be likely. I can't even bring myself to visit my local AMP here in Brisbane. The idea of snogging a beautiful Taiwanese student that's been kissing a few other mongers already today is not exciting.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2434380]Her: Babe, Pasay City is declared under the state of calamity.
Her: Malls will be closed because of the lock down.[/QUOTE]I just heard from two girls who work at a manila mall. At least they did work there. Now NO work, no money, and little food. They live paycheck to paycheck. For many the cure is worse than the disease. Anybody know how long the malls will be closed?
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2434893]Isolation is the best way to contain this pandemic. There simply aren't enough ICU beds in the world to cope with the expected cases of elderly people who will need treatment. We can't afford to have the aged getting sick as most health systems in the world will meltdown, as it has in Italy. If ICU beds aren't available, how do you treat the 20 year old car accident victim? Doctors will have to prioritise.
This might be just "the flu" for those under 50, but the over 70 aged group is particularly affected. Apparently it's like drowning in air, and the damage to the lungs is long lasting. We don't want the young passing it to the old, hence the restriction in social contact. The two month lockdown in China appears to have worked.
The hysteria is not just confined to Filipinos. I live in rich white man land and the behaviour of the people here is also irrational. Some people have filled their entire double garage, floor to ceiling, with toilet paper, pasta, rice and hand sanitiser. People are pulling out knives in supermarkets at the toilet paper aisles.
Mongers will just have to pack away their dicks for the next six months and take up a more useful hobby. One that perhaps exercises their brains a bit more. You'the be surprised how easy it is to forget about chasing Pinay pussy and get along with normal life.[/QUOTE]It will be hard for mongers to stow their pricks for the long months ahead. However, there is not much choice in the matter. Worried Filipino families have locked away the prized pussies from foreign mongers. No point in risking the family's main breadwinner over 1,000 pesos. In AD 2020, mongers will just have to relive the fall of man from Pinay Pussy Heaven and endure the cold reality of life in the West.
Mongers will have more to weep about in the coming months. The stock market crash dealt a vicious blow to many pension funds. Plans to retire to Dumaguete and have innocent looking Pinays suck on vinegar flavored marshmallows will have to wait another decade for some. Those living in Flipsville with substandard medical infrastructure are at great risk of succumbing to Wuhan virus should they cop a dose.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2434984] ......................Plans to retire to Dumaguete and have innocent looking Pinays suck on vinegar flavored marshmallows will have to wait another decade for some. [/QUOTE]So true, so true.
I suggest our ISG banjoist friend, stay put in America, and stroke the strokes there.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2434984] Those living in Flipsville with substandard medical infrastructure are at great risk of succumbing to Wuhan virus should they cop a dose.[/QUOTE]I think resident mongers will be more likely to drown in pussy after the local curfews are lifted and cash strapped girls are on the prowl while jet setting Johns are still unable to arrive.
Again, refer to how the '97 Asian Financial Crisis played out. It's hard to believe there was a better time to be a male with a heartbeat in Asia.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. No bleeding heart comments about how uncaring I am. You know you are thinking the same thing. 😀.
Limp Richards here have nothing to do but talk about marshmallow dicks. Why? They live a pathetic pussy less life. Meanwhile stiffies will find a way to find it and to insert in some young babe.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2434984]... suck on vinegar flavored marshmallows will have to wait another decade for some...[/QUOTE]Now I'm suspicious of you -- how do you know they are vinegar flavored. ?
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2435030]Now I'm suspicious of you -- how do you know they are vinegar flavored. ?[/QUOTE]Either by flavoring his own long one and? Or by experiencing one or a few.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2434984]Mongers will have more to weep about in the coming months. The stock market crash dealt a vicious blow to many pension funds. Plans to retire to Dumaguete and have innocent looking Pinays suck on vinegar flavored marshmallows will have to wait another decade for some. Those living in Flipsville with substandard medical infrastructure are at great risk of succumbing to Wuhan virus should they cop a dose.[/QUOTE]Irrespective of the stock market's recent poor performance, a retired Assistant Professors' pension from a two-year, liberal arts community college in some backwater was hardly going to be sufficient to retire on in Dumaguete. Those innocent looking, doe-eyed LBFMs from that coastal town in Negros are actually more wily than you might think. Generations of LBFMs (great grandmother, grandmother, mother) have tutored them well on how to extract the most from their fat, white victims. They know that generations of love-struck fatties, seeking college going sweeties, will pay big money to insert their Viagra infused, two-inch marshmallow cocks into their golden teen pussies. It's a closed market. Don't even think about shorting those sweet LBFMs on their fuck fees. There's nowhere to run from their machete wielding uncles and pimps. It's a closed town. Hahaha.
Retired Assistant Professors in Dumaguete might have to swallow their pride and supplement their meagre incomes somehow, while in country on their SRRVs. Now what skill do they bring? The site of an overweight, pony tailed, banjo playing monger, standing in front of City Mall, busking for a few peso would be a site to see. Comedy gold.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2435036]Either by flavoring his own long one and? Or by experiencing one or a few.[/QUOTE]Variety IS the spice of life. Smile, try something new!
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2434965]I just heard from two girls who work at a manila mall. At least they did work there. Now NO work, no money, and little food. They live paycheck to paycheck. ....[/QUOTE]The sad part is these little pinays have no bank account and no clue how to save money.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2435021]
Again, refer to how the '97 Asian Financial Crisis played out. It's hard to believe there was a better time to be a male with a heartbeat in Asia.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Thats got me all excited. The moment this dies down I am heading straight back to the Phils.
G, I will have to see it to believe it (that it can get easier than it currently is to get pussy in the Phils!
[QUOTE=Free2;2435213]The sad part is these little pinays have no bank account and no clue how to save money.[/QUOTE]And anything they do manage to keep is soon gone to parasitic boyfriends or family members.
There will be real starvation from the lock down. I don't think anyone will be crying wolf. Let's not be so cynical.
[QUOTE=Free2;2435221]G, I will have to see it to believe it (that it can get easier than it currently is to get pussy in the Phils![/QUOTE]Imagine all those girls that are currently just gagging to be around our rugged good looks, wit and charm after 3 to 6 months of no income. The stunners, who had the cash to go home, are now broke having supported failed sarisari stores and chicken farms with no income. Now add all the unemployed casual sales clerks who normally would not be on the game but are now looking for a supportive 'boyfriend'.
The only thing missing this time will be the collapsing currency that reduced costs to an absolute pittance in USD terms.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2435250]There will be real starvation from the lock down. I don't think anyone will be crying wolf. Let's not be so cynical.[/QUOTE]Yes and no. While those that live in the city will have real bills to pay, those that can return to the province can live on next to nothing tending some chickens and watching the world go by for days on end. It will be the boy friends and uncles who will have the shock of reduced cash flow. Not the girls.
Yes, there will be real cases of hardships and request for assistance but don't think for a minute that some girls will not make the best of a bad situation and be hitting the phones for Western Union transfers to remedy imaginary problems.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2435341]....
Yes, there will be real cases of hardships and request for assistance but don't think for a minute that some girls will not make the best of a bad situation and be hitting the phones for Western Union transfers to remedy imaginary problems.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I only have two regulars that I trust, and care about enough, to send any assistance to. The others can make due however they can through this and if that means I will need some new regulars then they are not that hard to find.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2434893]Isolation is the best way to contain this pandemic. There simply aren't enough ICU beds in the world to cope with the expected cases of elderly people who will need treatment. We can't afford to have the aged getting sick as most health systems in the world will meltdown, as it has in Italy. If ICU beds aren't available, how do you treat the 20 year old car accident victim? Doctors will have to prioritise.
This might be just "the flu" for those under 50, but the over 70 aged group is particularly affected. Apparently it's like drowning in air, and the damage to the lungs is long lasting. We don't want the young passing it to the old, hence the restriction in social contact. The two month lockdown in China appears to have worked.
The hysteria is not just confined to Filipinos. I live in rich white man land and the behaviour of the people here is also irrational. Some people have filled their entire double garage, floor to ceiling, with toilet paper, pasta, rice and hand sanitiser. People are pulling out knives in supermarkets at the toilet paper aisles.
Mongers will just have to pack away their dicks for the next six months and take up a more useful hobby. One that perhaps exercises their brains a bit more. You'the be surprised how easy it is to forget about chasing Pinay pussy and get along with normal life.[/QUOTE]What did we do for all the past flu epidemics? We did not shut down the world. The difference here is that this virus is a more contagious but the death rate is not much higher. An Italian study showed that of all the Italians that died 99.2% had serious concomittant diseases-diabetes, etc. Only. 8 percent were healthy individuals. That's across all ages. Let the old people die, it's their time, same as with all the past flu epidemics for which we did not go to all these crazy remedies than are worse than the disease itself. They will have a vaccine soon and then transmission will be much less likely. I could be wrong but that's the way I see it.
[QUOTE=TurdyCurdyOne;2436106]....... Let the old people die, it's their time, same as with all the past flu epidemics for which we did not go to all these crazy remedies than are worse than the disease itself. They will have a vaccine soon and then transmission will be much less likely. I could be wrong but that's the way I see it.[/QUOTE]I have heard the virus refereed to as Boomer Remover.
[QUOTE=TurdyCurdyOne;2436106]What did we do for all the past flu epidemics? We did not shut down the world. [/QUOTE]What's different this time from all other pandemics in the past is the incredible, international mobility of the Chinese population. Viruses cannot be contained when such a large group of people is absolutely intent on getting on a plane. China is the world's factory and manufactures just about everything the world needs. Over the past 15-20 years, entrepreneurial Chinese have become incredibly wealthy, making stuff or servicing the needs of the middle class. There are thousands of millionaires and millions of middle class people in China who are addicted to overseas travel.
1. Tourists. Middle class Chinese love international travel. If you've ever been to the world's major tourist traps, there is one nationality group that will stand out. It doesn't matter whether its Paris, Rome or Fez, Morocco.
2. Belt and Road Policy. The Chinese Communist Party underwrites just about every major infrastructure project in developing countries. Obviously, the poor governments in African countries or in the Pacific are never going to be able to pay off those soft loans, so are happy to give up their sovereignty. These projects requires thousands of Chinese nationals (engineers, project managers and construction workers) to develop and deliver. They are sent to all parts of the globe.
3. International Students. There are about 2 million Chinese students studying outside of China in various rich, white man countries. They and their parents are always flying around.
4. In this particular case, thousands of Chinese, who are residents in other countries, went back to China to celebrate Lunar New Year. Hence they took the virus back to various rich white man countries after their family visit.
There are over 100,000 Chinese who are permanent residents in Italy. Easy to work out how the virus got there.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2436361]What's different this time from all other pandemics in the past is the incredible, international mobility of the Chinese population. [/QUOTE]Don't forget the roll of easy information. The 1918 Flu Epidemic fell in the middle of WWI so both the Axis and Allies actively suppressed information about its effect lest the enemy know how much of their manpower was being consumed. Fun Fact: it was called the 'Spanish' Flu as only neutral Spain was reporting its effects.
Now, some one gets a runny nose in Italy and the world knows about it within minutes. We've seen the affect this has on people fleeing home and panic buying toilet paper.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2436523]Now, some one gets a runny nose in Italy and the world knows about it within minutes. We've seen the affect this has on people fleeing home and panic buying toilet paper.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]For those in the states Amazon has a nifty bidet (brand name Astor) for about $25. All fittings are easily installed finger tight. Only required tool is a screwdriver to temporarily remove and then replace the toilet seat after the bidet is installed. No fancy Japanese heated water feature with this model, but eliminates skid marks in the undies and reduces the strain on septic systems and municipal sewer systems for digesting TP. Prime shipping puts it at your door in two days. Then no more need for panic-buying TP.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2436668]For those in the states Amazon has a nifty bidet (brand name Astor) for about $25. All fittings are easily installed finger tight. Only required tool is a screwdriver to temporarily remove and then replace the toilet seat after the bidet is installed. No fancy Japanese heated water feature with this model, but eliminates skid marks in the undies and reduces the strain on septic systems and municipal sewer systems for digesting TP. Prime shipping puts it at your door in two days. Then no more need for panic-buying TP.[/QUOTE]Its not TP that block sewers its condoms, sanitary pads, nappies, fat and all the other non biodegradable stuff people flush down the toilet or sinks. The last think that I am worried about is running out of toilet paper. If I'm desperate I will use the hand sprayer from my garden hose that has a nice trigger action and good spray.
Goodluck finding any of those in stock anywhere. I ordered a handheld bidet last week. I had been putting it off for a while, when I went to actually make the order turns out lots of people had the same idea. Not a single moderately priced bidet was availlable. I ordered anyways, my ass should be much cleaner next week when it arrives.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2436668]For those in the states Amazon has a nifty bidet (brand name Astor) for about $25. All fittings are easily installed finger tight. Only required tool is a screwdriver to temporarily remove and then replace the toilet seat after the bidet is installed. No fancy Japanese heated water feature with this model, but eliminates skid marks in the undies and reduces the strain on septic systems and municipal sewer systems for digesting TP. Prime shipping puts it at your door in two days. Then no more need for panic-buying TP.[/QUOTE]
Just want to update you fellas about the situation in Manila.
Unfortunately I am stuck here for a month. I am staying in Shangri-la Fort BGC. It's one of the few reputable hotels that are still operating at this time. There's no lounge, pool, gym no anything! Dining is in room only. I wanted to get a lady from Smooci but hotels won't let any guest who aren't registered in. Booked a nearby AirBnB so my sorry arse can have some sexy time. It's a sad time to be deployed here. I was looking forward to my month long dining on Filipinas.
[QUOTE=Frog85;2436803]There's no lounge, pool, gym no anything! Dining is in room only. I wanted to get a lady from Smooci but hotels won't let any guest who aren't registered in. [/QUOTE]Many of us in the same boat during the lockdowns of various cities, from NCR to the province. "Fall in line sir".
[QUOTE=Frog85;2436803]Booked a nearby AirBnB so my sorry arse can have some sexy time. [/QUOTE]Booked an airbnb condo recently in the province. All good. The day before checkin I got a msg from the host: "Sorry to inform sir that starting today the Mgmt of the Residence has suspended all transient entry to the condo during the COVID Signal. I have cancelled your reservation". I see, understood. I reserved an airbnb elsewhere nearby. Few days later I noticed the same original Residence still had the exact same units available thru airbnb, so I contacted a different Host there and asked if the unit was available during lockdown. "No sorry to inform its not". Check. An hour later I received a msg from that same host: "Are you Filipino sir? If so, you can able to check in if you have Medical Certificate for the Mgmt". I see. But for us (haha) Filipino only? "Yes sir. You can get Certificate from any doctor and bring me". Must say, that's pretty sh*tty.
[QUOTE=Frog85;2436803]It's a sad time to be deployed here. I was looking forward to my month long dining on Filipinas.[/QUOTE]Its bad especially for the 2-week warrior or vacationer. We are all hoping this turn out to be a month-long (or less) hiccup.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2436839]Its bad especially for the 2-week warrior or vacationer. We are all hoping this turn out to be a month-long (or less) hiccup.[/QUOTE]Damn sure does not look like it. The numbers are increasing by the minute.
[URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2436891]Damn sure does not look like it. The numbers are increasing by the minute.
[URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks posting that. Have been watching that site for a few days. The site updates the numbers twice daily. Its ugly for a number of countries, USA, Italy, Korea. So much smaller for Phils, but Phils is just simply behind the others, give it a week or two.
I think the virus is a sham and this shutdown will cause more deaths and destruction than this flu. But Filipinos are panicked and pussies are being packed up tight and shipped home.
So of course the PER index is dropping (Pussy Earned Revenue) and large shortfalls will affect both short and long term pricing. Its a buyers market now and for the foreeeable future.
At least here in Canada our magnificent moron is handing out checks as fast as that fucktard can write them.
Funny thing is the SHEEPLE don't understand it will all need to be repaid and our dollar has dropped against the PESO 15%.
Joking aside there will be some real issues there for the next while, good luck!
PP.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;2437028]I think the virus is a sham and this shutdown will cause more deaths and destruction than this flu. But Filipinos are panicked and pussies are being packed up tight and shipped home.
So of course the PER index is dropping (Pussy Earned Revenue) and large shortfalls will affect both short and long term pricing. Its a buyers market now and for the foreeeable future.
PP.[/QUOTE]If available product is reducing, and competition is reducing, this would normally result in price increases.
Will this be matched by a lack of demand from punters? Will punters have the same concerns for their health and well-being as the girls do, or will they be primarily deterred by price?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2436910]Thanks posting that. Have been watching that site for a few days. The site updates the numbers twice daily. Its ugly for a number of countries, USA, Italy, Korea. So much smaller for Phils, but Phils is just simply behind the others, give it a week or two.[/QUOTE]Granted the Philippines has far more limited public health resources than Korea, Singapore and the US. However, it jumped all over this much more quickly than did the US with strict quarantine measures and business shut downs. It's my hope that the curve here will start to flatten over the next couple of weeks, proving that the measures are have a positive effect. I'm on home quarantine and not permitted to go out for any reason other than medically related. Virtually all of my friends who are 60+ (virtually all of them) are in the same situation.
GE.
In the worst flu season in recent years (not 1918) about 80,000 Americans died.
The best (data) modeler in the world, in the UK, forecast 1.1-2.2 million dead in the USA, depending on measures taken. This is on top of all the other diseases that don't go away just because we have a new virus, and people who could have easily survived whatever they have but for the overwhelmed health care system.
Half of the people on ventilators are younger folks. Even if they don't die there could be scars for life, literally, in their lungs. There are lots of examples of young people dying within days, I think because they were in close contact with a spreader. A big dose means you get a lot sicker.
The fact that so many people on here (and everywhere) dismiss the fears as hoaxes or compare it to the flu means this thing will get out of control, everywhere. I'll bet with anyone that the curve will not be brought down until it's too late.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2437074]Granted the Philippines has far more limited public health resources than Korea, Singapore and the US. However, it jumped all over this much more quickly than did the US with strict quarantine measures and business shut downs. It's my hope that the curve here will start to flatten over the next couple of weeks, proving that the measures are have a positive effect. I'm on home quarantine and not permitted to go out for any reason other than medically related. Virtually all of my friends who are 60+ (virtually all of them) are in the same situation.
GE.[/QUOTE]
Just some shit from my girlfriend:
One of our relatives in my dad's side passed away from CoViD. He's a famous cardiologist in the Philippine Heart Center. 😢128546;128546;.
There are two doctors who died in that same hospital in Manila.
They said that it was from a patient who wasn't honest enough to tell that he got travel history in Japan.
There are four more doctors who are considered as Person Under Investigation. They've been quarantined.
Yes. That's why my sister's clinic in front of our house was closed after the outbreak.
My sister's patients were seen in the hospital. Not in her clinic.
But she minimized her clinic hours. There's a couple who are both anesthesiologist had CoViD. The husband died already. His wife is still fighting for her life. They only got one kid who has autism. 😢128546;128546;.
I pray that this will be over soon.
[QUOTE=Trillian;2437238]In the worst flu season in recent years (not 1918) about 80,000 Americans died.
The best (data) modeler in the world, in the UK, forecast 1.1-2.2 million dead in the USA, depending on measures taken. This is on top of all the other diseases that don't go away just because we have a new virus, and people who could have easily survived whatever they have but for the overwhelmed health care system.
Half of the people on ventilators are younger folks. Even if they don't die there could be scars for life, literally, in their lungs. There are lots of examples of young people dying within days, I think because they were in close contact with a spreader. A big dose means you get a lot sicker.
The fact that so many people on here (and everywhere) dismiss the fears as hoaxes or compare it to the flu means this thing will get out of control, everywhere. I'll bet with anyone that the curve will not be brought down until it's too late.[/QUOTE]I agree with what you say, the problem is that it is very widespread now. I doubt even with 6 months of isolation it will not flare up again. My view is that there should be 6 weeks intense preparation, look for best treatment then support at risk people to stay isolated and allow everyone else get back to normal. Yes there will be casualties but given many people don't show symptoms the risk of flareups after isolation is too great. Allow it to burn out for 12 months then bring out the at risk.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2437274]Just some shit from my girlfriend:
One of our relatives in my dad's side passed away from CoViD. He's a famous cardiologist in the Philippine Heart Center. 😢128546;128546;.
There are two doctors who died in that same hospital in Manila.
They said that it was from a patient who wasn't honest enough to tell that he got travel history in Japan.
There are four more doctors who are considered as Person Under Investigation. They've been quarantined.
Yes. That's why my sister's clinic in front of our house was closed after the outbreak.
My sister's patients were seen in the hospital. Not in her clinic.
But she minimized her clinic hours. There's a couple who are both anesthesiologist had CoViD. The husband died already. His wife is still fighting for her life. They only got one kid who has autism. 😢128546;128546;.
I pray that this will be over soon.[/QUOTE]I find it challenging to believe that doctors would die from this but it makes a hell of a story for the Filipinos who are the king of Drama and Fear Mongering. Then the added comment that the fact he was neglected to tell them he / she had visited Japan, ? It a hospital, you think they might do a couple of tests and if someone is contagious they would protect themselves ESPECIALLY with this deadly disease.
Not likely. So AR 3 Doctors have died in the Philippines but no where else in the world so far?
Stop spreading stupid shit.
PP.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2437274]Just some shit from my girlfriend:
One of our relatives in my dad's side passed away from CoViD. He's a famous cardiologist in the Philippine Heart Center. 😢128546;128546;.
There are two doctors who died in that same hospital in Manila.
They said that it was from a patient who wasn't honest enough to tell that he got travel history in Japan. [/QUOTE]Perhaps these news accounts are related to her message:
[URL]https://www.onenews.ph/four-doctors-die-some-hospitals-may-temporarily-close-as-covid-19-cases-rise-to-462[/URL]
[URL]https://www.gmanetwork.com/entertainment/celebritylife/news/60869/doctor-diesfromcovid-19-colleague-shares-doctors-dying-wish-for-his-son/story[/URL]
[URL]https://filipinotimes.net/news/2020/03/22/two-pinoy-doctors-succumb-covid-19/[/URL]
I understand the serious challenges that frontline medical professionals are facing, especially when they're running short of protective equipment. In some of these stories you also have to wonder about sanitation and patient protocol practices. This is obviously a very contagious virus. Comparisons to the common flu are badly misplaced. We in the states would be better off if we could silence the loudmouth-in-chief and let the real experts tell us what is going on. I fear that state governors are being set up as the bad guys.
[URL]https://filipinotimes.net/news/2020/03/22/medical-city-quarantines-144-doctors-medical-staff-exposed-covid-19-patients/[/URL]
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2437456]Perhaps these news accounts are related to her message:
[URL]https://www.onenews.ph/four-doctors-die-some-hospitals-may-temporarily-close-as-covid-19-cases-rise-to-462[/URL]
[URL]https://www.gmanetwork.com/entertainment/celebritylife/news/60869/doctor-diesfromcovid-19-colleague-shares-doctors-dying-wish-for-his-son/story[/URL]
[URL]https://filipinotimes.net/news/2020/03/22/two-pinoy-doctors-succumb-covid-19/[/URL][/QUOTE]That is one smart Filipina who can make up such a detailed story. AND fool the press into publishing it!
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;2437452]I find it challenging to believe that doctors would die from this but it makes a hell of a story for the Filipinos who are the king of Drama and Fear Mongering. Then the added comment that the fact he was neglected to tell them he / she had visited Japan, ? It a hospital, you think they might do a couple of tests and if someone is contagious they would protect themselves ESPECIALLY with this deadly disease.
Not likely. So AR 3 Doctors have died in the Philippines but no where else in the world so far?
Stop spreading stupid shit.
PP.[/QUOTE]It has been mentioned in media here recently that one of the doctors in China who were involved in the discovery of the virus, had died from it.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;2437452]I find it challenging to believe that doctors would die from this but it makes a hell of a story for the Filipinos who are the king of Drama and Fear Mongering. Then the added comment that the fact he was neglected to tell them he / she had visited Japan, ? It a hospital, you think they might do a couple of tests and if someone is contagious they would protect themselves ESPECIALLY with this deadly disease.
Not likely. So AR 3 Doctors have died in the Philippines but no where else in the world so far?
Stop spreading stupid shit.
PP.[/QUOTE]Not stupid shit just stupid ignorant people who don't read the news and are badly misinformed. These are links that AussieGaigin refers to in his FR.
[URL]https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-07/doctor-who-warned-of-coronavirus-dies-in-china/11941948[/URL]
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/06/world/asia/chinese-doctor-Li-Wenliang-coronavirus.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51403795[/URL]
So you don't read any stuff from eminent news sites. Fox. OAN, Breibart etc clearly feeds the masses with garbage that you sadly believe PP.
Facts are facts and I suggest you read the links then tone it down because it reminds of the phrase that goes 'the more you open your mouth the more stupid you show you are' LOL.
I would not wish this virus and anyone especially in third world countries where testing and recovery is a lottery or just for the rich (and I include USA on that list).
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2437507]It has been mentioned in media here recently that one of the doctors in China who were involved in the discovery of the virus, had died from it.[/QUOTE]Yes true, and there have been several doctors who have been infected died from coronavirus, especially in Italy and Spain! Also, it's a big concern here in the United States where we have major concerns about a lack of personal protective equipment to protect medical providers from the disease. I tell you man. You just have to wonder about some people sometimes and WTF is going on in their heads, and where they get their information from. SMDH!
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2437507]It has been mentioned in media here recently that one of the doctors in China who were involved in the discovery of the virus, had died from it.[/QUOTE]Only in Italy, the number of doctors who have died is in the double digits.
Of course many, many more will die before this is over.
I keep reading about thousands of new ventilators being needed worldwide in addition to the thousands already in service, Does anyone with real knowledge know what percentage of patients who are placed on ventilators survive and leave the hospital cured? I have always thought being on a ventilator has extremely poor outcomes. I'm sure there is some difference depending on country but the few people I know of who went on a ventilator died in the hospital. My thinking is its a way to bill the insurance company and patients family for a life extending measure. I have a "Do Not Resuscitate" order so I don't think I would be put on one unless my healthcare appointee agreed.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2437565]the few people I know of who went on a ventilator died in the hospital. My thinking is its a way to bill the insurance company and patients family for a life extending measure. I have a "Do Not Resuscitate" order so I don't think I would be put on one unless my healthcare appointee agreed.[/QUOTE]So you would rather die than have the insurance company billed? There is a difference between the doctor that is trying to save your life and the company that owns the hospital that makes all the pricing and shit. Just visit a military hospital and see how many people are on ventilators. There is not too much billing of insurance companies in those. The government is footing that bill themselves.
I have to agree that coronavirus has make it harder for us mongers to score easily.
I can not speak for others cities but here where I am in the province it hasn't affect me much, if anything coronavirus help me score more on the last month than on January and February. Let me explain my circumstances so you can understand my situation.
I've been staying with my girlfriend since I arrived in the Philippines on January (we are in a serious relationship just so you know), so during January and February I was only able to meet girls on the weekends when my GF agree for me to go out with her best friend BF for drinks most weekends. Not that I wasn't successful with the dates I had, but at most I was only able to scored 1 or 2 girls a week.
Then the Coronavirus came strong on March and it was all over the news everyday and it panic her to the point that she didn't want to go out anymore (we used to go out almost everyday, specially in Cebu). So basically everytime I go out for running and grocery shopping by myself almost always I end up in a short hotel with my new dates, I'm only out for 3 hours, maximum 4 hours so that my GF won't get suspicious, that's enough time to do the deed. I've been able to get around 3-4 girls a week the last month. It also helps that the last month I was lay off temporary from my online fulltime job because of Coronavirus, so I had more time to chat girls on Cupid, Tinder, Facebook, Pinalove and Badoo.
So yeah Coronavirus help me in my case.
By the way, I agree most airbnb condos don't allow visitors anymore because of the virus, so your best option is to bring your girl to a short hotel, it cost only 300 php for 3 hours. At first I thought it was going to be hard to convince a girl to come to a short hotel, but is very easy. I just tell them that I'm staying with a friend on his parents house so I can not bring them there. They always believe me and they are ok going to a short hotel. I had 4 girls going on the first date to the short hotel, the rest will go on the second date, so if that's the case make sure the first date is a short one, just 1-2 hours for coffee, if she drinks and gets drunk more likely she will go on the first date. Just buy beer in 7 eleven drink in the park or plaza since there are not bars and nightlife anymore, you have to UP your daygame now, because of the lockdown and curfews everything is done during the day.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2437615]I've been staying with my girlfriend since I arrived in the Philippines on January (we are in a serious relationship just so you know), so during January and February I was only able to meet girls on the weekends when my GF agree for me to go out with her best friend BF for drinks most weekends. Not that I wasn't successful with the dates I had, but at most I was only able to scored 1 or 2 girls a week.
[/QUOTE]Can I ask why if you are in a serious relationship with a girlfriend in the Philippines, that you go and search for more pussy on the weekend in her backyard? I am assuming your girlfriend, with whom you are in a serious relationship with, obviously approves of what you are doing. Otherwise, the situation could turn bad rather quickly in the provinces.
If you are leaving the country from NAIA, then it will be out of Terminal 1 for now.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2437462]That is one smart Filipina who can make up such a detailed story. AND fool the press into publishing it![/QUOTE]Yup. She got them hook, line, and sinker.
Interestingly, in the Rappler article the photo shows doctors wearing what appear to be surgical masks rather than N95's (except for the guy in the surgical gown). N95's are supposed to provide "at least 95% filtration efficiency against solid and liquid particles" (language is from 3M, a major producer of N95's). The principal barrier is synthetic material. Surgical masks, on the other hand, are made of woven fabric with a much lower filtration efficiency. They are intended to protect the wearer from large droplets and protect patients from large respiratory droplets from the wearer. Covid19 particles apparently are small enough to pass through woven fabric. Doctors and nurses are going nuts with guidance suggesting they use surgical masks, bandanas, or whatever do it yourself masks they can find.
[URL]https://www.rappler.com/nation/255981-philippine-doctors-die-fighting-front-lines-vs-coronavirus-march-26-2020[/URL]#cxrecs_s.
[URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/1887020/nine-doctors-die-from-coronavirus-in-philippines[/URL]
[URL]https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/rest-of-the-world-news/philippines-nine-doctors-die-due-to-coronavirus.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2437574]So you would rather die than have the insurance company billed? There is a difference between the doctor that is trying to save your life and the company that owns the hospital that makes all the pricing and shit. Just visit a military hospital and see how many people are on ventilators. There is not too much billing of insurance companies in those. The government is footing that bill themselves.[/QUOTE]My question was, what percentage of flu patients on ventilators survive. Thought maybe one of our ISG professional medical people did know. I have always thought pnumonia patients on ventilators were just death in waiting. Knowing how many ventilators are in Covid 19 service can be extrapolated to future death rates. Maybe the recovery rate is better than I have believed which would be good.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2437674]My question was, what percentage of flu patients on ventilators survive. Thought maybe one of our ISG professional medical people did know. I have always thought pnumonia patients on ventilators were just death in waiting. Knowing how many ventilators are in Covid 19 service can be extrapolated to future death rates. Maybe the recovery rate is better than I have believed which would be good.[/QUOTE]I thought I had heard 50/50 survival rate on ventilator with Covid19. Possibly the ratio may be different in different countries.
Is it the learned opinion of the membership that the NEWS has never been manipulated?
I am confident that it is certainly being influenced. Filipinos are a scared and uneducated group, one of my staff, a 36 year old man with a MASTERS degree who lives in a small town is sincerely scared that he will die. He is reasonably healthy, could exercise and should stop smoking.
Some will die indeed, I am concerned that the world now thinks all can be saved and should be at any cost. I guess there will never ever be another war because someone might get hurt.
I am sincerely pissed and scared of the forthcoming economic fallout and unless you are on a good pension you should also be.
If you ain't living your dying!
PP.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2437674]My question was, what percentage of flu patients on ventilators survive. Thought maybe one of our ISG professional medical people did know. I have always thought pnumonia patients on ventilators were just death in waiting. Knowing how many ventilators are in Covid 19 service can be extrapolated to future death rates. Maybe the recovery rate is better than I have believed which would be good.[/QUOTE]It depends on what other medical issues the patient has. People in the 70+ age group already have a range of ongoing medical conditions. Getting the Wuhan China virus at that age is only going to accelerate death if they already have respiratory, renal, cardiac or vascular issues. The exercise on calculating the number of ICU beds and ventilators has already been done. It is woefully short for the number of expected Wuhan China virus cases in the next few weeks. That's why governments world wide are shit scared and are embarking on a lockdown campaign to protect the aged. There's a school of thought that maybe the elderly should just take a hit for the team (like the young did during the world wars) and we shouldn't be closing down businesses. But who's going to make that call?
Here is an article from The Lancet. Sometimes their political agenda is a little left leaning, but an esteemed journal nevertheless.
[URL]https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736[/URL](20) 30633-4/ fulltext.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2437615]I have to agree that coronavirus has make it harder for us mongers to score easily.
I can not speak for others cities but here where I am in the province it hasn't affect me much, if anything coronavirus help me score more on the last month than on January and February. Let me explain my circumstances so you can understand my situation.
I've been staying with my girlfriend since I arrived in the Philippines on January (we are in a serious relationship just so you know),.[/QUOTE]I am sure you are joking about serious relationship. Maybe as far as the girl is concerned in her mind. Hope you do not transfer the germs you pick up bonking these girls to the girl staying with you.
Suggest you set aside 30 minutes and watch this vid: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J0d59dd-qM&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3E9_0icJYMfsv9-4H0s57vkLJAH_WsXjKMAKzB2l8M7a6z2L0aVJIi2AI[/URL].
I see now more than 3 years a pinay, about 5 times a year for 2 weeks. Regretfully (or lucky? My cathay pacific flight on March 17 was cancelled.
I don't want another girl cause she is fun and so little and she even dances in bikini bars if I feel bored. She did never work in an bar. But she could do easily when I leave her.
But a "relation" like you have with a girl from your own country I never see.
See does so much for me, but the most she does so she can have more money for her family and friends.
She does like she listens and understand my words, say yes yes.
But she only listens to her family and friends.
I have always to listen to her, always help her quick.
Always she finds excuses to beg for more money.
And she always find excuses why she did not keep to agreements with me.
Well if I could have easy sex with a 25 year 4 foot 7 inch 77 LBS (137 cm 39 kilo) as 63 year old man and she went out with me I would really kick her out.
But the slim small funny nice dancing girls are spoiled in bars.
And I think each years it gets worse.
If a pinay says she loves you she means she likes so much how you help her.
If a pinay says she wants to live with you she says that she likes to get power over your money.
And after a few years she needs to see hard results from her work for you. An own house.
Cause she forgets all the money you already gave. That is the past. Don't remember her on the past.
Wel after 2 years she had 1 year an affair with a pinoy.
I only found out cause the pinoy was a stupid and he did send me pics from her in bed with him.
Well my pinay needs my money (her mama angry) so she broke up with the pinoy.
But I don't believe that, cause sometimes her tits are still bruced.
Pinoy beat Pinay. The only way Pinay really listen.
But we are not allowed to beat a Pinay.
Maybe that is why we never have a good relation with a Pinay.
So best to look internet and buy a silicone pussy. Specially this corona time.
At least than we are not the slave of a Pinay cause they are boss over our dick.
They are so smart in playing your dick!
My dick loves her so much, makes him crazy.
My mind hates her and the idiot culture. My mind crazy.
But again that idiot culture makes that we can have as old man a young pussy.
Complete crazy they make you.
But it is no love, no relation.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2437615]I have to agree that coronavirus has make it harder for us mongers to score easily.
I can not speak for others cities but here where I am in the province it hasn't affect me much, if anything coronavirus help me score more on the last month than on January and February. Let me explain my circumstances so you can understand my situation.
I've been staying with my girlfriend since I arrived in the Philippines on January (we are in a serious relationship just so you know), so during January and February I was only able to meet girls on the weekends when my GF agree for me to go out with her best friend BF for drinks most weekends. Not that I wasn't successful with the dates I had, but at most I was only able to scored 1 or 2 girls a week..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Retgilpo;2438005]I see now more than 3 years a pinay, about 5 times a year for 2 weeks. Regretfully (or lucky? My cathay pacific flight on March 17 was cancelled.
I don't want another girl cause she is fun and so little and she even dances in bikini bars if I feel bored. She did never work in an bar. But she could do easily when I leave her.
But a "relation" like you have with a girl from your own country I never see.
See does so much for me, but the most she does so she can have more money for her family and friends.
She does like she listens and understand my words, say yes yes.
But she only listens to her family and friends.
I have always to listen to her, always help her quick.
Always she finds excuses to beg for more money.
And she always find excuses why she did not keep to agreements with me.
Well if I could have easy sex with a 25 year 4 foot 7 inch 77 LBS (137 cm 39 kilo) as 63 year old man and she went out with me I would really kick her out.
But the slim small funny nice dancing girls are spoiled in bars.
And I think each years it gets worse.
If a pinay says she loves you she means she likes so much how you help her.
If a pinay says she wants to live with you she says that she likes to get power over your money.
And after a few years she needs to see hard results from her work for you. An own house.
Cause she forgets all the money you already gave.[/QUOTE]What the fuck dude. Who the hell put you on that payment plan? You got a raw deal. That is like going to the car lot and paying 25% interest over 60 months. Practice these words: [B]I only give money when I am there.[/B] What are you bankrolling this broad for? At least find a chick that keeps agreements if you are going to bankroll someone. There are 800 million 25 year old 4 foot 7 chicks to choose from. Yet you choose one that runs over you, disrespects you, and bleeds you like a rubber tree. Maybe it is a diehard romantic thing or a fetish thing, because this kind of shit I will never understand. Treat me like shit and take all my money too. Yeah baby, that is how I like it.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2438121]What the fuck dude. Who the hell put you on that payment plan? You got a raw deal. That is like going to the car lot and paying 25% interest over 60 months. Practice these words: [B]I only give money when I am there.[/B] What are you bankrolling this broad for? At least find a chick that keeps agreements if you are going to bankroll someone. There are 800 million 25 year old 4 foot 7 chicks to choose from. Yet you choose one that runs over you, disrespects you, and bleeds you like a rubber tree. Maybe it is a diehard romantic thing or a fetish thing, because this kind of shit I will never understand. Treat me like shit and take all my money too. Yeah baby, that is how I like it.[/QUOTE]Well, he is happy with the situation, bruised tits and all. He actually said that he does not want another girl, as this particular girl gives him all the disrespect and drama he could ever want. It sounds strange to you and me but it works for him. He says that she controls him through his dick and it drives him crazy. Apparently, he is getting good value for the cash she bleeds out of him. Obviously, it is some sort of masochistic fetish. However, both parties seem happy with the arrangement.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2436523]Don't forget the roll of easy information. The 1918 Flu Epidemic fell in the middle of WWI so both the Axis and Allies actively suppressed information about its effect lest the enemy know how much of their manpower was being consumed. Fun Fact: it was called the 'Spanish' Flu as only neutral Spain was reporting its effects.
Now, some one gets a runny nose in Italy and the world knows about it within minutes. We've seen the affect this has on people fleeing home and panic buying toilet paper.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]They are adding a new classification to the DSDM: Corona Delusional Psychosis and Cognitive Impairment.
Well damn. As if corona wasn't enough.
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/world/asia/lion-air-crash-philippines-coronavirus.html[/URL]
I'd just stay my tongue and let the dummies get infected and die, only I can't because they'll infect lots of innocent girls and other people. The reason everyone desperately want ventilators is that 20% of infected go to the ICU. 80% are mild, which includes pneumonia. Yeah, something that normally is among worst-case scenarios is considered mild with Covid-19. Thus the need for crazy amounts of ventilators.
"Out of Spain's 40,000 confirmed coronavirus cases, 5,400 — nearly 14 percent — are medical professionals, the health ministry said on Tuesday."
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/world/europe/coronavirus-europe-covid-19.html[/URL]
America told its people don't wear masks because of cultural / racial biases, and because they didn't have enough for health care workers. NYTimes is now changing its tunes.
Why Telling People They Don't Need Masks Backfired: To help manage the shortage, the authorities sent a message that made them untrustworthy.
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/opinion/coronavirus-face-masks.html[/URL]
More Americans Should Probably Wear Masks for Protection: Experts have started to question whether masks may offer at least some protection to healthy individuals and essential workers.
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/health/us-coronavirus-face-masks.html[/URL]
New C. D. C. Data shows that nearly 40 percent of patients sick enough to be hospitalized were age 20 to 54.
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/health/coronavirus-young-people.html[/URL]
I'm an ER doctor. Please take coronavirus seriously: Most people don't understand exponential growth. If they did, they'the be far more frightened.
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/20/er-doctor-coronavirus-exponential-growth[/URL]
There are a lot more but if anyone reads all these and still don't care then they're a lost cause that will cost a lot of lives.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2437617]Can I ask why if you are in a serious relationship with a girlfriend in the Philippines, that you go and search for more pussy on the weekend in her backyard? I am assuming your girlfriend, with whom you are in a serious relationship with, obviously approves of what you are doing. Otherwise, the situation could turn bad rather quickly in the provinces.[/QUOTE]Of course she doesn't approve, that's why I'm hiding it from her. I know I look like an as at #$hole for doing this to her, but I'm far from that. Because I treat her very well, and other than this cheating I'm very honest to her, she knows everything about me, and I respect her alot even when sometimes girls flirt with me when I'm with her, I don't even acknowledge them. If she were to caught me, I will stop it right away, say sorry and take it like a man.
But yeah, I agree, I'm playing with fire right now. Well now in the province not too much since she doesn't know much people here where we are.
But in Cebu City. Yes, I risk getting caught since she had friends from her university years, and also her workmates, she lived in Cebu the last 6 years.
I know sooner or later I have to quit this thing before is too late. As a monger the last 10 years and having lots of girls the last 20+ years, I know soon I will end this and start a new chapter in my life. But in the meantime I need to enjoy this as much as I can so I can give a good farewell to this lifestyle.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2437797]I am sure you are joking about serious relationship. Maybe as far as the girl is concerned in her mind. Hope you do not transfer the germs you pick up bonking these girls to the girl staying with you.[/QUOTE]Yeah hard to believe, even me sometimes I don't believe. But I decided last December to give it a try and make it serious with her. Is still a work in progress but will see what happens.
About passing any diseases to her. I know is hard to know for sure if you will get a STD or not, specially since many times she raped me after coming home from having sex with other chicks, but I try my best to avoid getting germs, if one of the chicks look like a * or very experience specially with foreigners I will wear condom, I don't meet hookers or goldiggers, all of them have a career / job, well now some of them lost their jobs temporary because of the virus. I was suppose to get test it on April, but since everything is close now, I will do it late April or on May.
By the way guys a trick I learn here to get rid off the smell of sex in your body or clothes, is to spend 15 to 20 minutes around those barbecue street vendors before going home so the barbecue smoke will stay in your body. This really works guys, specially on your clothes, the barbecue smell is so strong that it will stay in your clothes for days!
[QUOTE=Retgilpo;2438005] I see now more than 3 years a pinay, about 5 times a year for 2 weeks. Regretfully (or lucky? My cathay pacific flight on March 17 was cancelled.
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But it is no love, no relation.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear what's going on between you and your girl, but I always said, if you are looking for a serious relationship find someone closer to your age, even in the Philippines, 10 to 20 years difference is fine. My girl and I have only 10 years difference (late 20's her and me late 30's), in your case since you are in your 60's you should find someone in her 40's, I think 20 years of difference should be fine for you if you want to find a girl who sees a future with you and will RESPECT you enough that she won't cheat on you when you are away.
I know any guy can be fool, even the young ones, but the likelihood of happening is greater the older you are to her. So age difference is very important in a serious relationship.
I know the part that she won't cheat on you when you are away is hard to believe, but that's why you need to do your homework and find a really good filipina who is faithful and really looking for a serious relationship / soulmate, she has to be hardworker so she can depend on herself without asking for money.
You need to spend alot of time with her also, at least 1 month living together, seeing eachother everyday so you can find out if you are compatible, if she has any red flags even just one, run away!
You also need to give her great sex, the best sex of her life, so great that the only person she wants to have sex from now on is with you, because you open her pandora box on every orgasm you give her (LOL just a metaphor).
Also if she happens to be young and with no kids, you should be willing to give her a baby in the future otherwise she won't see you on her future and eventually she will find someone else who will give her a baby.
And stop sending money or else she will see you as an ATM machine and she won't respect you anymore, that's why is better to find someone who is hardworker and independent. If she is educated is a plus also, but between educated and hardworker / independent women, for me hardworker is more important, some educated women are lazy, but hardworker / independent women are never lazy, because they hate doing nothing, they take action, and they are always working to finance themselves, they hate depending from others.
In my case the reason I'm spending 6 months together with my GF is so I can decide if she is my forever, I need to make sure, so 6 months living together everyday should be enough time for me to decide. I'm always skeptical about serious relationship with someone in another country, but the chemistry we have is hard to let it pass by, so I'm taking the plunge and giving it a try. I even had to force her to quit her job so we can spend more time together on weekdays.
Yeah I know I'm cheating on her, but part of that is to test her to see if she let me have free time with my friends and to see if she is not a controlling / extremely jealous GF. So far everything looks good, she pass all the test. I'm almost halfway from the 6 months, so will see what happens.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2439129]In my case the reason I'm spending 6 months together with my GF is so I can decide if she is my forever, I need to make sure, so 6 months living together everyday should be enough time for me to decide. I'm always skeptical about serious relationship with someone in another country, but the chemistry we have is hard to let it pass by, so I'm taking the plunge and giving it a try. I even had to force her to quit her job so we can spend more time together on weekdays.
Yeah I know I'm cheating on her, but part of that is to test her to see if she let me have free time with my friends and to see if she is not a controlling / extremely jealous GF. So far everything looks good, she pass all the test. I'm almost halfway from the 6 months, so will see what happens.[/QUOTE]She does not know cheat on her and shag multiple women whenever you can. So if / when she finds out you may find she thinks you are not compatible with her and then regret being forced to give up her job. Which IMHO is very controlling and sinister as if you can't live without her for one minute you are somewhat a crazy dude or one of those who believes in true love LOL.
P.S. I have been caught shagging my lady's sister and still forgiven but was touch and go LOL And had more then one set of bisexual sisters but which one should marry!
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2439129]Sorry to hear what's going on between you and your girl, but I always said, if you are looking for a serious relationship find someone closer to your age,[/QUOTE]Here the man is has already put a down payment on the brand new candy apple red Ferrari of his dreams, and you are trying to sell him on a used, gray, Dodge minivan instead. Sure we all know he is not able to handle the Ferrari, but it sounds like he is not the type that wants to be seen putzing around in a minivan.
I have been spending a lot of time, between stupid cat videos on YouTube, hunting on the dating sites.
There is a huge uptick in the number of girls asking for money right off the start, claiming that they are starving.
I know a lot of these claims will be bullshit but knowing how corrupt and uncaring some officials here are I am sure that some are not distributing relief supplies and keeping them for themselves or to sale.
The president really needs to clamp down on any official corruption in this area.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2439116]Of course she doesn't approve, that's why I'm hiding it from her. I know I look like an as at #$hole for doing this to her, but I'm far from that. Because I treat her very well, and other than this cheating I'm very honest to her, she knows everything about me, and I respect her alot even when sometimes girls flirt with me when I'm with her, I don't even acknowledge them. If she were to caught me, I will stop it right away, say sorry and take it like a man.
But yeah, I agree, I'm playing with fire right now. Well now in the province not too much since she doesn't know much people here where we are.
But in Cebu City. Yes, I risk getting caught since she had friends from her university years, and also her workmates, she lived in Cebu the last 6 years.
I know sooner or later I have to quit this thing before is too late. As a monger the last 10 years and having lots of girls the last 20+ years, I know soon I will end this and start a new chapter in my life. But in the meantime I need to enjoy this as much as I can so I can give a good farewell to this lifestyle.[/QUOTE]But for your own good (I do not know you and am not judging you), you need to get a grip. You're letting your little head do your thinking. Be careful, be exceedingly careful about Filipinas.
I have to remind myself everyday that my sweet, loving tall, gwapa g / f is much like a hookr. She is pretending to love me for the comforts I am providing in contrast to the cr*p place her family lives in and the cr*p food they eat and some other things like actually knowing how to UK. It's an illusion. I remind myself this because one day she will realize that she really doesn't love me as much as she thought and she really doesn't need me as much as she thought and then I will not be too hurt from waking up from a nice dream to reality. I may take her back to the USA with a good prenuptial that makes it more likely she will stay with me till I die, which might not be far off.
For those horny mongers who are struggling to get through the lockdown without Pinay pussy, here is the next best thing. A thesis on prostitution in Sabang from Uppsala University in Sweden.
[URL]https://uu.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1064095/FULLTEXT01.pdf[/URL]
An interesting quote from this scholarly paper:
"Those who come to explore the underwater wonders discover an overdeveloped cluster of geriatric watering holes full of delu- sional men with decorative money-hungry twenty-somethings on their arms. Do these guys really scuba dive? Anyway, underwater the scenery is worth the sleazy company. " (Contemporary Nomad 2014).
Moved to this thread.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2439993]Last Friday, March 27: About 500 cases in Phils. Today April 3, just over 3,000 cases. A six-fold increase in a week. A 'bloom' in session. Things don't bode well for April 14.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2440124]If anything, the quarantines appear to be tightening, and I don't believe, as one who lives here, that there's an immediate end in sight. In Davao, where I live, individual movements become more restricted every few days, and we're now transitioning to an exit pass system that allows one person per household to leave the property to buy food and / or medicine. The only exceptions are for "essential" workers.[/QUOTE]I am in a different city, but am seeing the same things you mentioned. Right from the start of the lockdown here, many families (including 2 of my regulars) simply started spending 24 hours a day inside their homes. Only 1 person per household goes outside for food, medicine, or other necessity. Another person goes in / out for laundry (the machine is not inside the house for one family, or done by hand for the other fam). Both girls are adamant about not being around anyone else, and about keeping their restless brothers inside the (tiny, sweltering) home. They are as voluntarily locked down as can be (praise be, folk in my country certainly are not sheltering-in-place). My girls and their families are literally afraid.
Mayors and city lockdown rules (Mayoral proclamations) can change. A neighboring city had curfew hours of 9 pm-6 am and a handful of other rules (ie the closure of churches, malls, entertainment venues). Recently a second proclamation lengthened the curfew to 6 pm-6 am, and added another dozen or so minor restrictions (could not understand all of it in the local tongue).
Barangay can tighten the Mayor's restrictions even more, increasing the curfew hours in this or that Brgy, or instituting alcohol bans in the Brgy (but not the city). As these things are unannounced, it can lead to confusion, and don't expect the Brgy to post that information anywhere (at best, and this is shoddy, a brgy official will mention a new rule to a local, expecting it to chismosa its way around, but they are not notifying local hotels or condos. Or convenience stores or saris).
Condos. Immediately stopped accepting new guests of any kind. Or alternately, they briefly for a few days would accept new guests if the guest had a doctor's medical certificate (with CBC) and a Brgy Health Clearance (showing 14 days quarantine); then suddenly they reverted to: No new guests (and that refers to you, airbnb folk, even if you reserved it for 2 people and your local GF is with you, she might now be OUT). Think airbnb can save you in this instance? Good luck, it now takes airbnb 7-10-ish days to return any messages you leave for them ("Apology we are currently overwhelmed by Covid issues"; yes and mine is one of them). The good news is that airbnb has agreed to refund for all Covid issues.
Hotels: Same as condos above, then a number of them closed completely within a week. Many have gone to no new guests, or accepting guests only with a Brgy health clearance. If you are in a hotel, you don't dare leave for another one unless you have spoken directly to the front desk to see if your room is available and ask if you need any medical clearance.
With the bloom of the past week, with many of the new cases coming out of Manila, I can not foresee the NCR being let out of the lockdown. An extra 2 or 4 (or more) weeks, as needed. However provinces might lighten up (those with zero cases). I don't have a province-by-province breakdown of cases and deaths (only the site that ME left for us). Does anyone have such a site?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2440235] I don't have a province-by-province breakdown of cases and deaths (only the site that ME left for us). Does anyone have such a site?[/QUOTE][URL]https://ncovtracker.doh.gov.ph/[/URL]
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2440237][URL]https://ncovtracker.doh.gov.ph/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for posting this. Such a blatant and unattributed ripoff of the Johns Hopkins work.
It is interesting that the PH site has such a detailed info on every case.
I heard that Cagara. Surigao province has zero cases.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2440370]....
I heard that Cagara. Surigao province has zero cases.[/QUOTE]Big difference between zero cases and zero confirmed cases. With the ease of transmitting this and the fact that people can have it and be shedding the virus with no symptoms coupled with the lack of testing, it's no wonder that some places are reporting zero cases.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2440651]Big difference between zero cases and zero confirmed cases. [/QUOTE]Just look at the mortality rates. Most western countries are reporting 1 to 2% while many in Asia are reporting up to 9%. Perhaps Asians are particularly susceptable or have a more deadly form of Covod19. However, my money is that there are actually 4 times as many cases out there that have been diagnosed and reported.
G.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2440370]Thanks for posting this. Such a blatant and unattributed ripoff of the Johns Hopkins work.
It is interesting that the PH site has such a detailed info on every case.
I heard that Cagara. Surigao province has zero cases.[/QUOTE]Burundi has no cases PP as it has no test kits so is it COVID 19 free? Once the Philippines does proper testing I expect the numbers to rise quickly and could be scary.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2439190]Here the man is has already put a down payment on the brand new candy apple red Ferrari of his dreams, and you are trying to sell him on a used, gray, Dodge minivan instead. Sure we all know he is not able to handle the Ferrari, but it sounds like he is not the type that wants to be seen putzing around in a minivan.[/QUOTE]Do who you want just make sure that you have a proper prenup. Then roll them in and roll them out!
PP.
Stuck here in Canada, can't get laid cause all the women think that they are all going to die. Now I can't even read about the lucky mongerers getting laid in warmer, non snowy parts. Back for the winter this year and I plan to fuck them all and I am curious as to how things will change.
Knowing the filipina mind as I do they will initially raise rates claiming danger and mongerers, stupid as they are will pay for awhile but then the supply will increase but I predict that the demand will take a long time to return. Asians are fearful.
One thing I know I won't ever overpay, that is the privilege of the lazy or stupid.
PP.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2440651]Big difference between zero cases and zero confirmed cases. With the ease of transmitting this and the fact that people can have it and be shedding the virus with no symptoms coupled with the lack of testing, it's no wonder that some places are reporting zero cases.[/QUOTE]With no testing the patient died from the flu, heart, or whatever. Statistics will show zero Covid deaths.
New information out: As many as 50% more people have been infected and had no symptoms (asymptomatic) and got over it without knowing they had it but now have the antibodies so are now basically immune. These people did not go thru the healthcare system so are not included in J Hopkins spreadsheet. I guess that means the death rate is actually far less than 1%. NOTE: I want to be one of those so I can catch the next plane leaving for SEA. I see my Doc this week.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;2440664]Stuck here in Canada, can't get laid cause all the women think that they are all going to die...
PP.[/QUOTE]I always found that danger made them horny. Nothing like a whiff of tear gas, getting shot at and missed, or barely avoiding death to get them wet.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2440672]New information out: As many as 50% more people have been infected and had no symptoms (asymptomatic) and got over it without knowing they had it but now have the antibodies so are now basically immune. These people did not go thru the healthcare system so are not included in J Hopkins spreadsheet. I guess that means the death rate is actually far less than 1%.[/QUOTE]FT: Can you provide a link?
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2440672]With no testing the patient died from the flu, heart, or whatever. Statistics will show zero Covid deaths.
New information out: As many as 50% more people have been infected and had no symptoms (asymptomatic) and got over it without knowing they had it but now have the antibodies so are now basically immune. These people did not go thru the healthcare system so are not included in J Hopkins spreadsheet. I guess that means the death rate is actually far less than 1%. NOTE: I want to be one of those so I can catch the next plane leaving for SEA. I see my Doc this week.[/QUOTE]Just as I said previously, the death rate is less than 1% among otherwise healthy individuals. If your sick, old and debilitated, it goes up. But the insanity rate and the rate of fascist leaders who think they can take away all your liberties without consequence is more like 90%-far more worrisome than the latest strain of the flu. The diff is mostly that we don't have vaccine for it yet and it's highly contagious. What, me worry? No way.
Dunno if this is meaningful to anyone, but just in case, here it is.
Link that I found the pic from: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_Philippines#By_region[/URL]
Link to a google doc spreadsheet with information about every case and death: [URL]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wdxIwD0b58znX4UrH6JJh_0IhnZP0YWn23Uqs7lHB6Q/edit#gid=0[/URL]
WC.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2440701]FT: Can you provide a link?[/QUOTE]Long article;.
The bottom line is two studies have been done; A cruise ship study had 17.9% asymptomatic and another study by University of Japan found 30.8% asymptomatic. Two relatively small studies is not much but it is what we know now. These people had no symptoms or super mild and never sought medical care. (People with no symptoms can still infect others), take away message for me and any other anal people that follow the numbers is that the "total cases" number probably does not include a high percentage of people who never sought care and that lowers the death rate computation.
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/03/18/what-percentage-have-covid-19-coronavirus-but-do-not-know-it/[/URL]#73 fce0 fb7 e90.
[QUOTE=TurdyCurdyOne;2440753]Just as I said previously, the death rate is less than 1% among otherwise healthy individuals. If your sick, old and debilitated, it goes up. But the insanity rate and the rate of fascist leaders who think they can take away all your liberties without consequence is more like 90%-far more worrisome than the latest strain of the flu. The diff is mostly that we don't have vaccine for it yet and it's highly contagious. What, me worry? No way.[/QUOTE]Where did you debunk to Turdy. Jakarta or NYC or Karachi? Please share with us a photo or two or you not being scared in those cities by walking around the park, going to shops and mosques, generally hanging around all parts of these cities with not a care in the world.
And be sure you lket people cough and sneeze on you or near you as you are immune LOL.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2440876]SNIP take away message for me and any other anal people that follow the numbers is that the "total cases" number probably does not include a high percentage of people who never sought care and that lowers the death rate computation.
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/03/18/what-percentage-have-covid-19-coronavirus-but-do-not-know-it/[/URL]#73 fce0 fb7 e90.[/QUOTE]Makes sense, thanks.
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/03/18/what-percentage-have-covid-19-coronavirus-but-do-not-know-it/#73 fce0 fb7 e90[/URL]
I am surprised nobody has posted an update.
Philippines has announced an extension of the Extended Community Quarantine (ECQ) until at least April 30.
No flights in or out before that date.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2440974]I am surprised nobody has posted an update.
Philippines has announced an extension of the Extended Community Quarantine (ECQ) until at least April 30.
No flights in or out before that date.[/QUOTE]I got an email from the Government of Canada. They are arranging a charter back to Canada to take any remaining Canadians who want to go home. Cost is to be 2200 USD per person one way. Compare to 35,000 p round trip Cebu-manila_Vancouver-Winnipeg RETURN that I was looking at for June back in January.
It appears that it would include sweeper flights from Cebu, Dumaguete, Iloilo, Davao and other places if necessary.
That is a better deal than the Port Morsby PNG to Tokyo flights that are also being arranged, 4200 USD economy 10,000 USD business class.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2441011]I got an email from the Government of Canada. They are arranging a charter back to Canada to take any remaining Canadians who want to go home. Cost is to be 2200 USD per person one way. Compare to 35,000 p round trip Cebu-manila_Vancouver-Winnipeg RETURN that I was looking at for June back in January.
It appears that it would include sweeper flights from Cebu, Dumaguete, Iloilo, Davao and other places if necessary.
That is a better deal than the Port Morsby PNG to Tokyo flights that are also being arranged, 4200 USD economy 10,000 USD business class.[/QUOTE]I got the same email yesterday, but I got it too late, because two days earlier I change my cancelled flights for July and I pay nothing. I was surprise, I guess since they were both the same flight numbers as my canceled flights it is free.
Even if I got that email earlier, I would choose staying until July and pay nothing, rather than spending 108,000 php!!
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2440883]Where did you debunk to Turdy. Jakarta or NYC or Karachi? Please share with us a photo or two or you not being scared in those cities by walking around the park, going to shops and mosques, generally hanging around all parts of these cities with not a care in the world.
And be sure you lket people cough and sneeze on you or near you as you are immune LOL.[/QUOTE]Same to you.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2441208]I got the same email yesterday, but I got it too late, because two days earlier I change my cancelled flights for July and I pay nothing. I was surprise, I guess since they were both the same flight numbers as my canceled flights it is free.
Even if I got that email earlier, I would choose staying until July and pay nothing, rather than spending 108,000 php!![/QUOTE]I am pretty much resigned to not going to Canada this summer. If any restrictions are still in place this summer it will be more hassle than it is worth. All I want to go back for is to visit family see a couple special friends then come back here.
Right now there is 14 day mandatory quarantine which will be longer than I want to stay there plus wil cost me more than I live on and monger here for a month. (I don't have a house there and would be in a hotel.).
On return I would expect another 14 days here so a one week at home would become a 5 week effort, most spent in quarantine.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2441308]I am pretty much resigned to not going to Canada this summer.[/QUOTE]And now, this. Airlines will struggle to refund monies; they will more likely offer future vouchers or delayed refunds.
[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/refunds-for-cancelled-flights-unbearable-task-iata-190011931.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2441308]I am pretty much resigned to not going to Canada this summer. If any restrictions are still in place this summer it will be more hassle than it is worth. All I want to go back for is to visit family see a couple special friends then come back here.
Right now there is 14 day mandatory quarantine which will be longer than I want to stay there plus wil cost me more than I live on and monger here for a month. (I don't have a house there and would be in a hotel.).
On return I would expect another 14 days here so a one week at home would become a 5 week effort, most spent in quarantine.[/QUOTE]I have a plan to avoid the 14 days quarantine when I arrive, I will start coughing so I can get the rapid test done on me, hopefully it works.
By July, I'm guessing rapid test will be the norm at the airport and if you have negative it means you don't have it so not need to do the quarantine. Hopefully this is true by July.
I had many plans for this summer in Canada, 2 weddings that one of them was postponed already, the other one still deciding if they will cancel. I had a season pass from wonderland which I guess I will get my money back, a group camping that so far they told me is still on no matter what, but will see. And the regular summer festivals / events I attend and also birthday parties. I love summer in Canada, but I guess this summer won't be the same as other years.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2441495]And now, this. Airlines will struggle to refund monies; they will more likely offer future vouchers or delayed refunds.
[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/refunds-for-cancelled-flights-unbearable-task-iata-190011931.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Of the 3 flights I cancelled, two gave a credit voucher to be used within 24 months and the other has a refund in process and I'm expecting money to hit my bank in 1 to 2 months.
Luckily, I'm a frequent flier with all these airlines so I'm ok with the credits. The only downside is that each one is only redeamable as a single ticket with no cash for any unused portion. As one of the tickets was a mutistop and relatively expensive, I'm actually looking for ways to burn up the credit beyond a regular out and back ticket when things settle down.
All my Agoda hotels were refunded in full within 24 hours.
All up, I don't think I've got too much to complain about.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2441522]I have a plan to avoid the 14 days quarantine when I arrive, I will start coughing so I can get the rapid test done on me, hopefully it works.
By July, I'm guessing rapid test will be the norm at the airport and if you have negative it means you don't have it so not need to do the quarantine. Hopefully this is true by July.
.[/QUOTE]My understanding is that, although you may not be infected or have any symptons, you could still be carrying the virus (which is not detectable). It can take up to 14 days to actually affect you and be detectable, hence the need for the 14 day quarantine, especially if you have come from a high risk area. Here in Australia, people coming from low risk areas are required to self-quarantine for the same 14 days.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2441528].....
Luckily, I'm a frequent flier with all these airlines so I'm ok with the credits. The only downside is that each one is only redeamable as a single ticket with no cash for any unused portion. As one of the tickets was a mutistop and relatively expensive, I'm actually looking for ways to burn up the credit beyond a regular out and back ticket when things settle down.
.....[/QUOTE]Two words Business Class.
Or two other words First Class.
For those who have never sat in the front of the aircraft, it is a completely different world.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2441522]I have a plan to avoid the 14 days quarantine when I arrive, I will start coughing so I can get the rapid test done on me, hopefully it works.
By July, I'm guessing rapid test will be the norm at the airport and if you have negative it means you don't have it so not need to do the quarantine. Hopefully this is true by July.
I had many plans for this summer in Canada, 2 weddings that one of them was postponed already, the other one still deciding if they will cancel. I had a season pass from wonderland which I guess I will get my money back, a group camping that so far they told me is still on no matter what, but will see. And the regular summer festivals / events I attend and also birthday parties. I love summer in Canada, but I guess this summer won't be the same as other years.[/QUOTE]Be careful what you wish for as you assume the country will have millions of test kits and be ramped in terms of health care. Are you thinking of the Philippines? LOL.
You will need to self isolate regardless or if you start coughing you could end up in hospital and maybe asked to pay for it.
Silly things like coughing near officials where I am now = jail so think carefully.
But of course you also assume life is back to normal in the Philippines when various news sites are saying Asia is the next major hotspot and the country has yet to start proper testing!
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2441561]Be careful what you wish for as you assume the country will have millions of test kits and be ramped in terms of health care. Are you thinking of the Philippines? LOL.
You will need to self isolate regardless or if you start coughing you could end up in hospital and maybe asked to pay for it.
Silly things like coughing near officials where I am now = jail so think carefully.
But of course you also assume life is back to normal in the Philippines when various news sites are saying Asia is the next major hotspot and the country has yet to start proper testing![/QUOTE]I was talking about my international flight back to Canada on July, not my domestic flight to Cebu or Manila.
In Canada health care is free, and I heard they have hundreds of labs in the country, plus they will start implementing the rapid test at the airports soon, if they haven't already.
But like AussieGaigin said I might had caught the virus (for example in the airplane) and not be detectable yet. So I would have to do the 14 days self-quarantine at home no matter what, got to becareful and make sure, I don't want to infect a family member who will probably pass it to the eldest in the family and that's not good news.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2441547]Two words Business Class.
Or two other words First Class.
For those who have never sat in the front of the aircraft, it is a completely different world.[/QUOTE]Front of the plane is nice but I was thinking seriously about a detour here:
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2441599]7 dollar pussy.[/QUOTE]MC has listed numerous options for fiscal responsibility. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2440974]I am surprised nobody has posted an update.
Philippines has announced an extension of the Extended Community Quarantine (ECQ) until at least April 30.
No flights in or out before that date.[/QUOTE]Noooooo.
I was supposed to go last month. Was hoping to take a trip this month.
[QUOTE=TheTech08;2441917]Noooooo.
I was supposed to go last month. Was hoping to take a trip this month.[/QUOTE]I would recommend not considering travel here until at least June. The local quarantines keep getting extended and the death rate keeps creeping up, and the government seems serious about keeping the lockdowns in place until the death rate falls dramatically. Testing here is still sparse and public health resources are not abundant, and the government is exercising great caution in lifting restrictions which are getting even tighter in many areas, including Davao where I live.
GE.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2442147]I would recommend not considering travel here until at least June.[/QUOTE]Correct me if I'm wrong but the OP won't get in this month as a tourist even if he wants to: no VOAs are being issued to foreign arrivals and most airlines have cancelled inbound flights anyway.
I was scheduled to be there now but I'm expecting delays of several months before its wise and possible.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2442151]Correct me if I'm wrong but the OP won't get in this month as a tourist even if he wants to: no VOAs are being issued to foreign arrivals and most airlines have cancelled inbound flights anyway.
I was scheduled to be there now but I'm expecting delays of several months before its wise and possible.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]That's correct, no flights and no visas, but in theory I believe that's supposed to be lifted the end of April. I think most people here are betting on an almost complete lockdown that will last at least through May. There's no reason to be here now as hotels are closed, even Air B&B places aren't accepting anyone, the streets are deserted and all bars (together with most other businesses) are closed. I went off of our property today for the first time in about 10 days to buy some meds, and it was like driving around a ghost town. The condo in which my friend is staying in Davao will not allow anyone in to visit him.
I have a friend who has a condo on Burgos St and he tells me that it too is deserted and nothing is open.
GE.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2442147]I would recommend not considering travel here until at least June. [/QUOTE]June? He will be lucky to get there by November.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2442175]June? He will be lucky to get there by November.[/QUOTE]Most definitely, the game has changed. The days when mongers boarded a flight, landed in Flipsville, and whipped their cocks out for service are over. It is anyone's guess if the good old days of BBFSCIP on arrival will ever return. Even when flights resume they will be pricey and there may be tighter entry restrictions and quarantine requirements. The Wuhan virus has not fully ravaged the Philippines yet. When the mass burials begin, mongers should expect increasingly draconian measures to fight the outbreak. Mongers creaming in their hands in anticipation of returning to LBFM Paradise should curb their enthusiasm and accept that it is not going to be more fun in the Philippines for quite some time.
I'm debating whether to extend my post Convid19 trip to Philiipnes or add a side excursion to Vietnam.
I've been to Vietnam before and had a great time but it was over 10 years ago.
So far research has identified:
Philippines has a greater opportunity for BBFS, LT, part timers and I already know my way around, have contacts etc.
Vietnam has generally better looking girls at all price points, copious opportunities for very cheap 45 minute HJ / BJ / FS sessions, more expensive and less common LT options and it would be something different.
Anyone else care to compare or contrast the two options? Any major points that I may have missed?
Thanks. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2442600]I'm debating whether to extend my post Convid19 trip to Philiipnes or add a side excursion to Vietnam.
I've been to Vietnam before and had a great time but it was over 10 years ago.
So far research has identified:
Philippines has a greater opportunity for BBFS, LT, part timers and I already know my way around, have contacts etc.
Vietnam has generally better looking girls at all price points, copious opportunities for very cheap 45 minute HJ / BJ / FS sessions, more expensive and less common LT options and it would be something different.
Anyone else care to compare or contrast the two options? Any major points that I may have missed?
Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]Comparing Phi and Viet is useless for mongering. Firstly the problem is the language. Unless you live there and cultivate friendships you will not get the cream of the crop. Most good looking girls are taken by Chinese who are entrenched in Vietnam. Yes, there are many.
Entertainment venues and girls but you are not going to Find Philippine warmth and friendship.
Economy in Vietnam has greatly improved and less and less girls are in prostitution unlike Philippines. In Philippines we have exploding population which works in our favor.
Few years ago I did some business there and had business contacts. They arranged some nice girls. But none would allow BBFS. They would stay LT.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2442625]Comparing Phi and Viet is useless for mongering. Firstly the problem is the language. Unless you live there and cultivate friendships you will not get the cream of the crop....
Economy in Vietnam has greatly improved and less and less girls are in prostitution unlike Philippines. In Philippines we have exploding population which works in our favor.
Few years ago I did some business there and had business contacts. They arranged some nice girls. But none would allow BBFS. They would stay LT.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. I guessed that the scene in VND is almost industrial. '000's of serious lookers available on kynu, hot tocs etc conveyor belts but for 45 minutes, with a list of in / exclusions. Normally, I enjoy a much more relaxed session.
Thanks again. G.
I used to go to the Philippines regularly. That stopped when my daughter insisted that I go to Vietnam for a trip together with her. I had concerns primarily around language. We quickly learned the Google Translate is your friend. Problem solved. She was a great teacher. She came from Aus. And I from Canada. We met in Hanoi. Over the course of 30 days, we did planes, trains, and automobiles from Hanoi to Saigon and into Cambodia. If your looking for an interesting cultural trip this is a great place to come. I am primarily a dating site guy, but once you know a Vietnamese woman she will offer ideas of where to travel together and have actually been there herself as compared to a Filipina who has just heard of a place and wants to see it. The next time I came back I spent a lot of time on the dating sites. I eventually met a few ladies that were interested in meeting and spending time together. They are more work, but at the same time I found them more attractive and once you have established a report They are enthusiastic open minded lovers.
My thoughts are:
The transportation system in Vietnam is far superior to the Philippines.
Your not paying first world prices in a third world hotel, plus most hotels have a pretty good breakfast included.
The food is far superior to the Philippines. Even street food is spectacular.
Morning iced coffee and chats with other customers watching the streets come alive are enlightening.
Flights are affordable and regular although your taking your chances on being late with VietJET.
The closeness of the beaches makes it more attractive even for a day trip.
Frankly I have never felt I was being scammed in Vietnam unless it was very obvious.
I was going back again in February after I was there in October except for this pesky virus. Hopefully September.
I am finding that with the virus issues and income challenges, more ladies are overtly suggesting a mutual trip with her for fiscal rewards.
Goferring, If you have some specific questions shoot me a PM.
Nut.
[QUOTE=Amanut;2442640]I used to go to the Philippines regularly. That stopped when my daughter insisted that I go to Vietnam for a trip together with her....
Goferring, If you have some specific questions shoot me a PM.
Nut.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. I have shot you a PM with some Q's but an enjoyable few hours or days sounds a lot better to me than a cascade of 40 minute hit and runs.
G.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2442209]Most definitely, the game has changed. The days when mongers boarded a flight, landed in Flipsville, and whipped their cocks out for service are over. It is anyone's guess if the good old days of BBFSCIP on arrival will ever return. Even when flights resume they will be pricey and there may be tighter entry restrictions and quarantine requirements. The Wuhan virus has not fully ravaged the Philippines yet. When the mass burials begin, mongers should expect increasingly draconian measures to fight the outbreak. Mongers creaming in their hands in anticipation of returning to LBFM Paradise should curb their enthusiasm and accept that it is not going to be more fun in the Philippines for quite some time.[/QUOTE]It is really tripping me out how people in various threads are acting like this is just a normal holiday where everything is closed and tomorrow when the holiday is over everything will go back to normal. Well it is not that. It is economic destruction. First you have to understand like you said that the days of just waltzing up into a country are over. Then you have to realize that many people are out of work, which means people will not have money to travel as they did before. Nobody is going to send a plane loaded with 10 people to the Philippines, Thailand, Dominican Republic, Brazil, Colombia, or any other place that mongers like to frequent. No hotel is going to open its doors to only service 3 mongers that just came into town.
There is supply and demand at work. Here in Pattaya pretty much everything that does not deal with food is shut down. Many hotels are closed. Many bars, massage parlors, salons are now even empty of their furnishings, which means they do not plan to open again. All the workers (including sex workers) have gone back to their villages. It will not be like tomorrow this thing is over and the place just fills up with tourists and workers again. It will be starting from zero; just like when it was a fishing village. It will take a gradual buildup. You are not going to get a bunch of girls with no mongers but it appears mongers are willing to go somewhere in hopes there will be girls there. Then if you do come in contact with the girls they are going to be afraid to catch something from you. The clubs and bars around here can not just pop back open because the owners do not have money to pay workers since they will have been closed the last few months. And who would even open a bar or club or hotel etc without any customers to patronize them?
Here we have guys planning when they are going to so and so and what they are going to do when they get there. All that stuff is subject to be shut down IF you can even get there. I am lucky that I have had my place here for the last 10 years, so I have all my creature comforts and everything set up just how I like it. There is no way I would want to be a tourist here at this time. You go get food and you go back to the place you are staying. I am sure that it stinks to high heaven. Shit, I do not have any earthly idea how I am going to even get back to the States when time comes. I can not just say I will go on June 10, because I have no idea if there will be any flights then if this virus shit is even over by then. I will just cross that bridge when I get to it. Any plans that you think you are making now are moot until this pandemic is over and things get sorted out.
I think Chocha Monger exaggerates. The airlines and others that survive will need passengers and will give good deals literally to put bums on seats. I stayed in 5* Egyptian hotels after the Israeli tourists were moved down ($5 a night and the same for an all day taxi). After World war 1, German housewives sold themselves for pennies, as did Greeks after their economy went oops.
Let us not also forget Angeles bounced back after being covered in sludge.
Duterte aside, the supply will be there but what of the demand? Woen have been selling themselves ever since the devil banged Eve in The Garden of Eden so the game will continue. But where? The corona virus is just one more massive inconvenience on top of many others. I think it is time to shop local but the corner store does not provide the same products. With supply chains down, they are out of LBFMs.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2442745]I think Chocha Monger exaggerates. [/QUOTE]The Asian Financial Crisis, AIDS, SARS, 9/11, Volcanos, Sunamis, Earthquakes : tourism and hookers survive them all. If anything, prices dropped during the panics, for those brave enough to hunt off season.
Sure, recoveries were not overnight but pussy remained for sale.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Amanut;2442640]Frankly I have never felt I was being scammed in Vietnam unless it was very obvious..[/QUOTE]Viets would disagree with that. They think Hanoi folk are hard necked scammers.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2442698]It is really tripping me out how people in various threads are acting like this is just a normal holiday where everything is closed and tomorrow when the holiday is over everything will go back to normal. Well it is not that. It is economic destruction. First you have to understand like you said that the days of just waltzing up into a country are over. Then you have to realize that many people are out of work, which means people will not have money to travel as they did before. Nobody is going to send a plane loaded with 10 people to the Philippines, Thailand, Dominican Republic, Brazil, Colombia, or any other place that mongers like to frequent. No hotel is going to open its doors to only service 3 mongers that just came into town.
There is supply and demand at work. Here in Pattaya pretty much everything that does not deal with food is shut down. Many hotels are closed. Many bars, massage parlors, salons are now even empty of their furnishings, which means they do not plan to open again. All the workers (including sex workers) have gone back to their villages. It will not be like tomorrow this thing is over and the place just fills up with tourists and workers again. It will be starting from zero; just like when it was a fishing village. It will take a gradual buildup. You are not going to get a bunch of girls with no mongers but it appears mongers are willing to go somewhere in hopes there will be girls there. Then if you do come in contact with the girls they are going to be afraid to catch something from you. The clubs and bars around here can not just pop back open because the owners do not have money to pay workers since they will have been closed the last few months. And who would even open a bar or club or hotel etc without any customers to patronize them?.[/QUOTE]Some mongers are overly optimistic about their prospects for BBFSCIP with LBFMs in the coming months. They have not factored in the global recession that will follow the Wuhan bat virus pandemic. Many mongers just saw their pension funds go poof! Others are unemployed in the soup lines. This is just the beginning of the financial chaos that is to come as corporations make further deep cuts to payroll as demand for their products take a further dive. I suggest that financially literate mongers look at what happened to sales and demand in the auto manufacturing and financing industry to get an idea of what awaits in the next six months. Mongers do not know it yet but they will be too busy trying to feed and house themselves to worry about attempting to return to Flipsville and LOS to hunt for cut rate BBFSCIP with starving LBFMs.
Mongers are hoping that the airlines are willing to take further huge losses to fly planes with a few mongers onboard to the backwaters where they practice the old in-and-out with LBFMs. They neglect the fact that the airlines are screaming bloody murder in response to demands that they refund the cash paid for tickets on all those cancelled flights to mongering destinations. In reality, not only are the planes grounded and the pilots out of a job, the support services that make sure those planes are in shape to fly safely are in dire straits. Most mongers do not have the cash to pay $20,000 USD for a charter flight from Hoboken, NJ to Manila or Bangkok.
If quarantines remain in place, mongers will arrive in Manila or LOS and spend 14 days in quarantine, which is their entire annual two-week vacation. Another 14 days in quarantine upon returning home will follow. During this time the monger's employer will terminate him for failure to return from vacation on time due to his personal decision to go on a vacation without enough time on the books to cover the quarantine requirements. A high price to pay for going in search of BBFSCIP with LBFMs.
The best looking hookers will decide to play it safe and may not want to meet unknown mongers who may be infected. This will lower the quality available to mongers who are making bigger investments to fly to backwaters for BBFSCIP with ugly desperate LBFMs. Mongers are kidding themselves if they think Flips and Thais will not blame foreigners for bringing their virus to their countries. They should expect some resentment from the natives for the foreseeable future. Pretty girls are not going to be falling line for potential coronavirus cream pies from random foreigners with marshmallow cocks.
Hotels in the Philippines may maintain their restrictions on guests bringing in random LBFMs for bodily fluid exchanges that could potentially leave behind huge viral loads on beds and furniture in their rooms. Mongers may find themselves and their hobby unwelcome at reputable lodging establishments.
Will prostitution continue during and after the pandemic? Yes. There are mongers and hookers who disregard lockdowns, quarantines, and social distancing protocols to conduct high-risk sexual transactions at great danger to themselves and others.
One good thing to come out of the Wuhan bat virus is that the West has woken up to the fact that it has been totally reliant on communist China for just about every manufactured good. There is a vague political commitment in my country to restart manufacturing at least essential medicines and equipment at home. There is also a grassroots campaign to avoid (as much as possible) buying anything made in China.
The Philippines call centre business will also take a massive hit soon. Many of the major airline, energy and financial services companies in my country were caught out big time when their outsourced call centres could not operate because Filipinos were forced into isolation. Thousands of irate customers could not access their accounts in a time of urgent need. There is pressure now to bring all those call centres back home.
Another funny thing is that people are spending extraordinary amounts of money on brand name handbags and accessories made in Italy (Prada, Fendi, Gucci etc) thinking that Italian craftsmen are in workshops toiling away. They think generations of Italians have been taught by their fathers in leatherwork, in traditional workshops, in processes unchanged in 150 years. Little do they know that these 'luxury' bags are almost all made by cheap imported Chinese labourers brought over and forced to work in sweatshops in northern Italy. There are about 300,000 Chinese workers in Italy. You can work out why Italy was so badly affected by the Wuhan virus. At least those bags are correctly labelled 'Made in Italy'.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2442940]
Mongers are hoping that the airlines are willing to take further huge losses to fly planes with a few mongers onboard to the backwaters where they practice the old in-and-out with LBFMs. They neglect the fact that the airlines are screaming bloody murder in response to demands that they refund the cash paid for tickets on all those cancelled flights to mongering destinations.[/QUOTE]You're making the big assumption that Mongers will be able to leave home in the first place.
The world tourism industry is on its knees and governments have introduced bailout plans in the billions of dollars. It's no surprise that they are keen to relax local travel and holiday restrictions but there is no rush to allow all those dollars disappear on an overseas holiday.
[URL]7NEWS.com.au[/URL]: The coronavirus international travel ban could remain until 2021.
[URL]https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/the-coronavirus-international-travel-ban-could-remain-until-2021-c-972446[/URL]
Listening to experts.
1. Targeted medication.
2. Prophylactic medicine.
3. Vaccine.
Targeted medicine maybe available soon. Mongers cannot trust girls and girls will not trust us. Assuming pussy to penis transfer of virus does not take place sex will be strictly mechanical. Dip, release and go. You definitely do not want to end up in the hospital and get treated and released. You and the girl can be tested if there is a quick saliva or nose swab test by that time widely available. Even then many cannot take the risk of ending up in a foreign hospital.
Prophylactic medicine will go a long way for us mongers for the duration of the trip. Maybe make sure girl is also pre medicated.
Vaccine is the cure all to get back to normal.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2442777]Viets would disagree with that. They think Hanoi folk are hard necked scammers.[/QUOTE]Viets are biggest scammers in SE asia.
1. They never return change, unless you ask.
2. Only se asia country where I have seen pick-pocketing in tourist areas.
3. Mobiles were stolen in restaurant tables by bike riders. Owner said it's pretty common here.
I have seen people getting ripped off in clubs by over priced drinks, or become victim of known tourist s scams. But I had never seen crimes happening so blatantly, until I went to latin America.
I could be quarantined at home by myself or in the Philippines with some beautiful Pinays. Not a hard choice.
FYI. The supermarkets are filled with friendly, single moms happy to entertain a nice foreigner.
My condo has no problem with visitors.
Duterte wants to keep the Lockdown in Luzon until a vaccine for Covid-19 is invented.
Interestingly he mentioned that the united states (and not the bat eating Chinese) are part of the problem.
I think we need to live a long time without the LBFMs.
[URL]https://manilastandard.net/mobile/article/321509[/URL]
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2443036]
The Philippines call centre business will also take a massive hit soon. Many of the major airline, energy and financial services companies in my country were caught out big time when their outsourced call centres could not operate because Filipinos were forced into isolation. Thousands of irate customers could not access their accounts in a time of urgent need. There is pressure now to bring all those call centres back home.
[/QUOTE]I doubt domestic call centers will magically allow them to ramp up to 10 x their normal call volume overnight. Asian sweatshops have the ability to instantly introduce draconian working conditions until employees are litterally swan diving off 5 story dormitories. When the media find out, Western telcos can then divert business to a sister BPO company while the situation is 'fully investigated'.
Can't do that with western workers and employee legislation.
I'd agree that the collapse of the feeder aviation, finance, tourism industries will decimate the job prospects for Lynn and her sisters for a while yet.
[QUOTE=BobBowie;2443181]I could be quarantined at home by myself or in the Philippines with some beautiful Pinays. Not a hard choice.
FYI. The supermarkets are filled with friendly, single moms happy to entertain a nice foreigner.
My condo has no problem with visitors.[/QUOTE]Still being cooped up in suburbia, I would agree with you. Just be mindful that many Asian private hospitals, which western expats would normally turn to, are refusing to treat Covid patients and public hospitals may or may not accept foreigners.
I'm not being alarmist but I'd recommend checking your local options should the worst happen. You don't want to swap being fucked by hot single moms to being fucked by the system. 😁.
Stay safe. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2443244]I doubt domestic call centers will magically allow them to ramp up to 10 x their normal call volume overnight. Asian sweatshops have the ability to instantly introduce draconian working conditions until employees are litterally swan diving off 5 story dormitories. When the media find out, Western telcos can then divert business to a sister BPO company while the situation is 'fully investigated'.
[/QUOTE]The quality of service offered by those Philippine based call centres has been so low as to render them useless in many cases. There is widespread customer dissatisfaction from people in my company. The repeated frustration is usually enough for people to switch airlines, banks or utility companies. The Wuhan bat virus will be the trigger for companies to bring services back home.
The problem is that the LBFMs manning the call centres are not empowered to make decisions. They are also lazy and are unable to think logically. They have limited problem solving skills. Anything more complex than "Good morning Sir, how may I help you today?" or "I'm so sorry to hear that Sir" needs to be referred to supervisor. The supervisors have a little more delegated authority and ability to make simple decisions, but usually they will need to patch you into the home country's call centre where the problem will eventually get fixed. It is quite usual to call the Philippines three or four times for get a matter resolved. The problem is exacerbated because the LBFM on the graveyard shift is too lazy to type up a proper set of notes, so you have to start over again each time you call. She will rather be on PL looking for a nice white dick to fuck or scamming for some WU deposits.
There is also a major culture gap between the Philippines and the West which no one took into account when creating the BPO industry. Just knowing some English is insufficient to service a Westerner with a complex problem. How can an LBFM earning 18,000 peso and living in a nipa hut be expected to resolve an issue which she cannot even relate to?
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2443036]
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The Philippines call centre business will also take a massive hit soon. Many of the major airline, energy and financial services companies in my country were caught out big time when their outsourced call centres could not operate because Filipinos were forced into isolation. Thousands of irate customers could not access their accounts in a time of urgent need. There is pressure now to bring all those call centres back home.
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[/QUOTE]One of my long time regulars works for a call center, she is working from home via the internet now. She was out of work for a couple of weeks but is now working a night shift from her house.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2443259]One of my long time regulars works for a call center, she is working from home via the internet now. She was out of work for a couple of weeks but is now working a night shift from her house.[/QUOTE]I know of a hotel that rented all 150+ rooms to a call center for its employees from March 15 onward. The call center buses the employees to and from work everyday.
Lots of call centers are still operating. Since day one call centers have been deeded essential services.
USA companies will not be bringing call centers back home. It would be too costly. It would at least 8 times their labor cost let alone the other operating costs.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2443256]{Snip}
The problem is that the LBFMs manning the call centres are not empowered to make decisions. They are also lazy and are unable to think logically. They have limited problem solving skills. Anything more complex than "Good morning Sir, how may I help you today?" or "I'm so sorry to hear that Sir" needs to be referred to supervisor. The supervisors have a little more delegated authority and ability to make simple decisions, but usually they will need to patch you into the home country's call centre where the problem will eventually get fixed. It is quite usual to call the Philippines three or four times for get a matter resolved. The problem is exacerbated because the LBFM on the graveyard shift is too lazy to type up a proper set of notes, so you have to start over again each time you call. She will rather be on PL looking for a nice white dick to fuck or scamming for some WU deposits.
{Snip}[/QUOTE]The biggest frustration I find with these overseas call centres is if the customer (me) presents a problem to the operator that isn't on their problem solving templates, they are totally incapable of resolving it. Generally their solution is to just tell you anything that may appease you even temporarily and just add you on their monthly stats as a "problem solved". The best thing about this virus is that companies will now be bringing back their customer support on-shore, and not a minute too soon IMHO.
[QUOTE=Stykler;2443302]The biggest frustration I find with these overseas call centres is if the customer (me) presents a problem to the operator that isn't on their problem solving templates, they are totally incapable of resolving it.[/QUOTE]LOL. I have been going back and forth with this Indian airline for 2 weeks now. Over 10 emails and 2 hours chatting with someone through the internet. They keep insisting to give me a credit even though they sent me emails saying they have refunded my money. Now they only want to give me part of the refund which is fine by me. But they still keep trying to force the credit on me. It is like they don't have the money and are stalling.
On 4/14/2020, 9:28:08 PM, mre wrote:
Please cancel. This is my 10th email telling you guys to cancel not including the 2 hours I spent online chatting with someone. I DO NOT want a credit shell. I want money.
On Wednesday, April 15,2020 IndiGo Customer Relations <[EMAIL]customer.relations@goindigo.in[/EMAIL] .
With reference to your email, we would like to inform you that the facility to protect the entire ticket amount is available only in form of credit shell.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2443256]The quality of service offered by those Philippine based call centres has been so low as to render them useless in many cases.[/QUOTE]Valid point. I'm not going to defend the call centers' service quality. My comment was about their ability to rapidly ramp up. Most of the complaints that I'm aware of have been about excessive hold and wait times. Most of the airlines I've dealt with wouldn't even serve you unless you were scheduled to fly in the next 24 hours.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2443339]LOL. I have been going back and forth with this Indian airline for 2 weeks now.....
It is like they don't have the money and are stalling.[/QUOTE]They very well may not. 😁.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2443339]LOL. I have been going back and forth with this Indian airline for 2 weeks now. Over 10 emails and 2 hours chatting with someone through the internet. They keep insisting to give me a credit even though they sent me emails saying they have refunded my money. Now they only want to give me part of the refund which is fine by me. But they still keep trying to force the credit on me. It is like they don't have the money and are stalling.
On 4/14/2020, 9:28:08 PM, mre wrote:
Please cancel. This is my 10th email telling you guys to cancel not including the 2 hours I spent online chatting with someone. I DO NOT want a credit shell. I want money.
On Wednesday, April 15,2020 IndiGo Customer Relations <[EMAIL]customer.relations@goindigo.in[/EMAIL] .
With reference to your email, we would like to inform you that the facility to protect the entire ticket amount is available only in form of credit shell.[/QUOTE]If they cancelled the flight you can institute a chargeback. If you cancelled it, it is what the contract says though many airlines are offering vouchers or free rescheduling.
There has been a lot of chatter on the AC thread about if / when the lockdown will be lifted partially or fully.
This article (courtesy of GE) says it all IMHO.
Cebu just announced COVID 19 in one of its squatter areas (Zapetero) and that is a huge worry.
So me thinks the country is in for a hard time sadly.
[URL]https://www.esquiremag.ph/life/health-and-fitness/philippines-dead-last-in-coronavirus-pandemic-countries-safety-ranking-a00289-20200415[/URL]
[QUOTE=Stykler;2443302]The biggest frustration I find with these overseas call centres is if the customer (me) presents a problem to the operator that isn't on their problem solving templates, they are totally incapable of resolving it. Generally their solution is to just tell you anything that may appease you even temporarily and just add you on their monthly stats as a "problem solved". The best thing about this virus is that companies will now be bringing back their customer support on-shore, and not a minute too soon IMHO.[/QUOTE]My buddy came up with a solution to bypass the overseas call centers. At least where I call from. When they offer the option of press 1 for English or press 2 for another language, (French where I am) always press 2. His reasoning correctly is that the overseas call centers only speak English and their local language. When I press 2 for French, my call is automatically redirected to my local service provider. In my case, my local call centers are always perfectly bilingual English and French. Once you are connected you can have your problem resolved in English locally rather than going through an overseas call center. I have used his advice many times and it has never failed me.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2443339]LOL. I have been going back and forth with this Indian airline for 2 weeks now. Over 10 emails and 2 hours chatting with someone through the internet. They keep insisting to give me a credit even though they sent me emails saying they have refunded my money. Now they only want to give me part of the refund which is fine by me. But they still keep trying to force the credit on me. It is like they don't have the money and are stalling.
On 4/14/2020, 9:28:08 PM, mre wrote:
Please cancel. This is my 10th email telling you guys to cancel not including the 2 hours I spent online chatting with someone. I DO NOT want a credit shell. I want money.
On Wednesday, April 15,2020 IndiGo Customer Relations <[EMAIL]customer.relations@goindigo.in[/EMAIL] .
With reference to your email, we would like to inform you that the facility to protect the entire ticket amount is available only in form of credit shell.[/QUOTE]File the chargeback like GD mentioned. Send the refund confirmation email to your card issuer, they should file this as credit not processed and issue provisional credit. It's going to be really hard for the merchant to represent this charge with a refund email they sent you.
Just wondering if the news that American mongers have started to receive their Govt issued $1200 stimulus check has become public knowledge in the Philippines and if that's why I'm suddenly so popular on WhatsApp.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2443679]Just wondering if the news that American mongers have started to receive their Govt issued $1200 stimulus check has become public knowledge in the Philippines and if that's why I'm suddenly so popular on WhatsApp.[/QUOTE]Just don't tell them how quick that $1200 can disappear in the US just living every day life.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2443679]Just wondering if the news that American mongers have started to receive their Govt issued $1200 stimulus check has become public knowledge in the Philippines and if that's why I'm suddenly so popular on WhatsApp.[/QUOTE]No one that I know in PH knows about $1200 checks.
You are popular bc most girls are starving now and foreigners have the money. At least more money than they have. PH is a no work no pay country. Of course no pay no eat.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2443715]No one that I know in PH knows about $1200 checks.[/QUOTE]Yes, but you only get it if you make less than $75,000. The checks are for poor people so the credit card companies can get their interest payments.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2443715]No one that I know in PH knows about $1200 checks.
You are popular bc most girls are starving now and foreigners have the money. At least more money than they have. PH is a no work no pay country. Of course no pay no eat.[/QUOTE]Who is starving? My advice would be to stop listening to prostitutes hard luck stories that they give to multiple donors.
Most prostitutes have left for their families villages where they can quite happily live off the land, plenty of rice, chickens, vegetables right there in their back gardens / land, plenty of overseas working family members to rely on for extra cash if need be.
As far as no work no pay country then think again, my staff of 120+ have been paid in full till the end of April and then 50% of their salary should the lockdown last longer, even at 50% salary most will be getting 10,000 pesos a month for sitting at home, if you want to help out prostitutes with their claims of I not got food to eat then up to you but Please do educate yourself before making sweeping claims about the phills.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2443715]No one that I know in PH knows about $1200 checks.
You are popular bc most girls are starving now and foreigners have the money. At least more money than they have. PH is a no work no pay country. Of course no pay no eat.[/QUOTE]Girls survived perfectly well before mongers came on the scene and can survive now without them. You shouldn't act like you are single handedly supporting the entire Philippines.
There are many people in the Philippines right now that are hurting. The lockdown is seriously affecting a very large portion of the country. Many groups as well as the government are organizing food drives to help the poor. Maybe your staff of 120 + are fine but the many people are hurting. I have seen poor families on the street trying to sell their electric fan which is the only appliance they own to buy food. Many of the expats are going above and beyond also to help the needy.
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2444106]Who is staorving? My advice would be to stop listening to prostitutes hard luck stories that they give to multiple donors.
Most prostitutes have left for their families villages where they can quite happily live off the land, plenty of rice, chickens, vegetables right there in their back gardens / land, plenty of overseas working family members to rely on for extra cash if need be.
As far as no work no pay country then think again, my staff of 120+ have been paid in full till the end of April and then 50% of their salary should the lockdown last longer, even at 50% salary most will be getting 10,000 pesos a month for sitting at home, if you want to help out prostitutes with their claims of I not got food to eat then up to you but Please do educate yourself before making sweeping claims about the phills.[/QUOTE]
Here is a little of the reality of what is happening. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwAwoRck2Lk&fbclid=IwAR1G8XHm6MjOGJ_Z3BqvfdQpoyRnXBP7ZChrAq4watfR5qIqHKlsfdmAULo[/URL].
[QUOTE=Beavis;2444246]Here is a little of the reality of what is happening. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwAwoRck2Lk&fbclid=IwAR1G8XHm6MjOGJ_Z3BqvfdQpoyRnXBP7ZChrAq4watfR5qIqHKlsfdmAULo[/URL].[/QUOTE]Good post Beavis. Thanks. Times are tough. I hate this fuckin' virus.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2444250]Good post Beavis. Thanks. Times are tough. I hate this fuckin' virus.[/QUOTE]Yes me too, I have been doing all I can. Every time I see any of the frontliners I always buy them water, snacks, whatever I can to help. I have a couple of large sacks of rice and canned food I am putting in bags and giving to some of the people that need it. Anything extra right now will go a long way when this is over.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2444246]Here is a little of the reality of what is happening. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwAwoRck2Lk&fbclid=IwAR1G8XHm6MjOGJ_Z3BqvfdQpoyRnXBP7ZChrAq4watfR5qIqHKlsfdmAULo[/URL].[/QUOTE]I am really fascinated by the lips of the LBFM packaging the chicken parts. Do you think she will do BBBJCIM for one kilo of rice? I think the one buttering the bread was cute too. Is she available for BBFSCIP? I could definitely batter and glaze her puss.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2444218]There are many people in the Philippines right now that are hurting. The lockdown is seriously affecting a very large portion of the country. Many groups as well as the government are organizing food drives to help the poor. Maybe your staff of 120 + are fine but the many people are hurting. I have seen poor families on the street trying to sell their electric fan which is the only appliance they own to buy food. Many of the expats are going above and beyond also to help the needy.[/QUOTE]No more so than any other country the world over.
Its funny how some members want to help pinay prostitutes with handout in the hope of them delivering some pussy in the future, why not go and donate to your own countries needy, the homeless, the blind, the elderly, the handicapped, oh I forgot they will not give pussy in return.
Wanting to give to the needy is an honorable thing to do as long as one has no ulterior motives.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2444269]I am really fascinated by the lips of the LBFM packaging the chicken parts. Do you think she will do BBBJCIM for one kilo of rice? I think the one buttering the bread was cute too. Is she available for BBFSCIP? I could definitely batter and glaze her puss.[/QUOTE]Both of those girls date 1%er bikers. Bring your offer, you might get battered yourself.
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2444106]Most prostitutes have left for their families villages where they can quite happily live off the land, plenty of rice, chickens, vegetables right there in their back gardens / land, plenty of overseas working family members to rely on for extra cash if need be.[/QUOTE]I have only ever sent money to the Phils under exceptional circumstances and haven't done it for many years. Sending rice. Great idea. But I know for a fact these people can live on a pittance in the provinces and will not be sending any money to them for that exact reason. Sounds cruel, but I know they will survive.
However, alot if not all of the overseas families who are the cash cows have been laid off in their country and will not be sending money home to the Phils any time soon. I know many here where I live. They are tightening their purses for their own survival. Some made stupid financial decisions and now have expensive lease payments on the car of their dreams that they cannot pay. Remittances must be WAY down in the Phils. This may have more to with the crippling of the Phils economy than anything else as they depend so heavily on it. Although, many overseas are in the nursing, healthcare trade and their salaries will still be coming in.
[QUOTE=Free2;2444520]I have only ever sent money to the Phils under exceptional circumstances and haven't done it for many years. Sending rice. Great idea. But I know for a fact these people can live on a pittance in the provinces and will not be sending any money to them for that exact reason. Sounds cruel, but I know they will survive.
However, alot if not all of the overseas families who are the cash cows have been laid off in their country and will not be sending money home to the Phils any time soon. I know many here where I live. They are tightening their purses for their own survival. Some made stupid financial decisions and now have expensive lease payments on the car of their dreams that they cannot pay. Remittances must be WAY down in the Phils. This may have more to with the crippling of the Phils economy than anything else as they depend so heavily on it. Although, many overseas are in the nursing, healthcare trade and their salaries will still be coming in.[/QUOTE]They are dying in substantial numbers. Few hookers would be networked into them.
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232793/Coronavirus-takes-toll-UK-Filipino-community-29-including-Grenfell-survivor-die-virus.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2444408]No more so than any other country the world over.
Its funny how some members want to help pinay prostitutes with handout in the hope of them delivering some pussy in the future, why not go and donate to your own countries needy, the homeless, the blind, the elderly, the handicapped, oh I forgot they will not give pussy in return.
Wanting to give to the needy is an honorable thing to do as long as one has no ulterior motives.[/QUOTE]The people here are NOT desperate from what I have seen. No uptick locally or on DIA from what I can determine. Filipinos are NOT going hungry I can assure you and Du_turd_tay is sending them rice their favorite staple. I am certain there are some that fit into the desperated category but I have not seen them yet. Check back in a month or two if that idiot running the gov't here does not relent.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2444433]Both of those girls date 1%er bikers. Bring your offer, you might get battered yourself.[/QUOTE]Cavorting with outlaw motorcycle gang members will never end well. It would be quite funny to see a tattooed, pierced, old bloke riding around the streets of Subic on a Harley, with an LBFM perched on the back. Hahahahaha. LBFMs will do almost anything for money. They are the most promiscuous and amoral women on the planet. In all my years on earth, I have never quite encountered a nationality that will fuck so readily, under any situation. Hahahahaha.
[QUOTE=TurdyCurdyOne;2444718]The people here are NOT desperate from what I have seen. No uptick locally or on DIA from what I can determine. Filipinos are NOT going hungry I can assure you and Du_turd_tay is sending them rice their favorite staple. I am certain there are some that fit into the desperated category but I have not seen them yet. Check back in a month or two if that idiot running the gov't here does not relent.[/QUOTE]Which part of the country are you Turd? Locked down in an expensive condo in BGC / Rockwell? Or in the middle of nowhere aka the provinces with no running water or electricity? Expat friends in AC are organizing food parcels for the less fortunate as we all know government help is slow, will be stolen by someone before it reaches the intended recipient etc.
So as you are the Oracle on this please enlighten us with your stories from the provinces and the squatter areas that shows people are not hungry are happy and partying all day as free food every day.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2444776]Which part of the country are you Turd? Locked down in an expensive condo in BGC / Rockwell? Or in the middle of nowhere aka the provinces with no running water or electricity? Expat friends in AC are organizing food parcels for the less fortunate as we all know government help is slow, will be stolen by someone before it reaches the intended recipient etc.
So as you are the Oracle on this please enlighten us with your stories from the provinces and the squatter areas that shows people are not hungry are happy and partying all day as free food every day.[/QUOTE]Turd is swimming in the toilet. Everything he sees is rosy (to him)! A few others are in there swimming with him.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2444543]They are dying in substantial numbers. Few hookers would be networked into them.
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232793/Coronavirus-takes-toll-UK-Filipino-community-29-including-Grenfell-survivor-die-virus.html[/URL][/QUOTE]While it is always sad to hear of medical personnel succumbing to the China virus, it appears that nurse Amor Padilla Gatinao had the pre morbidity trifecta. Type II Diabetes, obesity and asthma. Her thyroid condition probably didn't help either.
A few OFW crew men on ocean liners have also died from the virus.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2444734]They are the most promiscuous and amoral women on the planet. In all my years on earth, I have never quite encountered a nationality that will fuck so readily, under any situation. Hahahahaha.[/QUOTE]And don't we just love them.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2444734] Hahahahaha. LBFMs will do almost anything for money. They are the most promiscuous and amoral women on the planet. In all my years on earth, I have never quite encountered a nationality that will fuck so readily, under any situation. Hahahahaha.[/QUOTE]Except for when they get to Australia, as when they do, they seem to discover what morals are. And once they have their visa, the love of the cock dries up very quickly!
[QUOTE=DanTheMan;2445312]Except for when they get to Australia, as when they do, they seem to discover what morals are. And once they have their visa, the love of the cock dries up very quickly![/QUOTE]I want to enhance this statement "the love of the sponsor's cock dries up very quickly".
The ones I know happy to enjoy other cock than the guy that paid them to get here.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2445322]I want to enhance this statement "the love of the sponsor's cock dries up very quickly".
The ones I know happy to enjoy other cock than the guy that paid them to get here.[/QUOTE]I love tales of heartless working girls. That is what they do. They working girl around. Some of the losers would make a gambling addict blush.
On a positive note: Chinese airlines are slashing fares to get custom up. When the international skies open up again, expect the mother of all price wars.
Contrary to the anti hooker PR, I am getting lots of messages from Pattaya of hookers stuck there without the money to go home. I am trying to break them into alternative web streams like web camming even though it holds no attractions for me.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2445322]I want to enhance this statement "the love of the sponsor's cock dries up very quickly".
The ones I know happy to enjoy other cock than the guy that paid them to get here.[/QUOTE]Very few of the ones in Australia are fuckable, so you could say you are not missing out on anything. Within 12 months of landing in Rich White Man Land, they will resemble brown refrigerators. 4'8" high and 4'8" wide. They have zero knowledge of nutrition, and I'm talking about the so called college educated ones. An endless supply of Tim Tams, full cream milk, vente sized frappes, quarterpounders with supersize fries, washed down with 2 litres of full sugar Coke each day will do that. They also don't walk anywhere, getting driven around by the gullible monger in his 20 year old Toyota Camry. There is so much food in RWML that immigrants from shithole countries just can't stop eating.
I once asked an LBFM, who had put on a few pounds and was complaining about her full sized rump, to switch to Coke Zero, or Coke Lite as they call it, instead of guzzling full strength Coke all day. She stared at me like I was some imbecile and said, "OMG, how can anyone drink that?. I would die without Coke. " Yeah, die from obesity and type 2 diabetes you fuckin' Einstein.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2445355]Very few of the ones in Australia are fuckable, so you could say you are not missing out on anything. Within 12 months of landing in Rich White Man Land, they will resemble brown refrigerators. 4'8" high and 4'8" wide. They have zero knowledge of nutrition, and I'm talking about the so called college educated ones. An endless supply of Tim Tams, full cream milk, vente sized frappes, quarterpounders with supersize fries, washed down with 2 litres of full sugar Coke each day will do that. They also don't walk anywhere, getting driven around by the gullible monger in his 20 year old Toyota Camry. There is so much food in RWML that immigrants from shithole countries just can't stop eating.
I once asked an LBFM, who had put on a few pounds and was complaining about her full sized rump, to switch to Coke Zero, or Coke Lite as they call it, instead of guzzling full strength Coke all day. She stared at me like I was some imbecile and said, "OMG, how can anyone drink that?. I would die without Coke. " Yeah, die from obesity and type 2 diabetes you fuckin' Einstein.[/QUOTE]I spent 6 months working in The Philippines. Had my own cook. I lost 12 kgs in that time and ate really well. Basically had a low carb diet, it was great but few of the locals seem to eat that they just pig out on sugar and carbs.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2445355]Very few of the ones in Australia are fuckable, so you could say you are not missing out on anything. Within 12 months of landing in Rich White Man Land, they will resemble brown refrigerators. 4'8" high and 4'8" wide. They have zero knowledge of nutrition, and I'm talking about the so called college educated ones. An endless supply of Tim Tams, full cream milk, vente sized frappes, quarterpounders with supersize fries, washed down with 2 litres of full sugar Coke each day will do that. They also don't walk anywhere, getting driven around by the gullible monger in his 20 year old Toyota Camry. There is so much food in RWML that immigrants from shithole countries just can't stop eating.
I once asked an LBFM, who had put on a few pounds and was complaining about her full sized rump, to switch to Coke Zero, or Coke Lite as they call it, instead of guzzling full strength Coke all day. She stared at me like I was some imbecile and said, "OMG, how can anyone drink that?. I would die without Coke. " Yeah, die from obesity and type 2 diabetes you fuckin' Einstein.[/QUOTE]Those LBFMs just blow up into walruses once they arrive in The Land of Plenty. The sponsor will be walrus fucking within a year. He will be powerless to stop the explosive weight gain of his formerly twiggy LBFM. The hapless sponsor will learn at great cost that LBFMs think that obesity is sexy and intentionally pig out in RWML. She will then post her walrus-class figure on Facebook where she will receive much admiration from friends and family back in Flipsville. Listen carefully to LBFMs when they get access to unlimited food. They will start saying shit like, "I will make myself fat. Fat is sexy. " They are not joking. They mean it. Sponsors ignore it at their peril. Why go through the trouble of importing a LBFM that will blow up into a marine mammal? Plenty of 300-lbs white Bush pigs that would jump at the chance to marry a monger who treats them with Tim Tams and Caramel Koalas for each BBBJCIM.
Once those LBFMs blow up to walrus-size, they develop a mean and entitled attitude to match. Many sponsors end up abused at the hands of their rogue LBFMs in RWML.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2445355]Very few of the ones in Australia are fuckable, so you could say you are not missing out on anything. Within 12 months of landing in Rich White Man Land, they will resemble brown refrigerators. 4'8" high and 4'8" wide. They have zero knowledge of nutrition, and I'm talking about the so called college educated ones. An endless supply of Tim Tams, full cream milk, vente sized frappes, quarterpounders with supersize fries, washed down with 2 litres of full sugar Coke each day will do that. They also don't walk anywhere, getting driven around by the gullible monger in his 20 year old Toyota Camry. There is so much food in RWML that immigrants from shithole countries just can't stop eating.
[/QUOTE]You speak for yourself buddy. I know quite a few LBFM in Oz. Either married to Australian or Kiwi guys; or are on a working visa. None of them have put on weight and they are all very switched on in relation to healthy eating.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2445325]Contrary to the anti hooker PR, I am getting lots of messages from Pattaya of hookers stuck there without the money to go home. I am trying to break them into alternative web streams like web camming even though it holds no attractions for me.[/QUOTE]When you finish believing that I have some swamp land to sell you. Everyone here that wanted to go home left a long time ago. If you really know someone here that is short the $10 bus fare to go back home, send them my way please. I will even throw in an extra $3 for them to get lunch and dinner. Truth of the matter is that the same way those chicks send money home, home sends money to them as well.
And I have already reported going over to several chicks' places and guys are sending them crazy money for camming or for even nothing. It cuts down my costs to free in some cases because they are still yearning for some real dick. Don't mind if I do.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2445388]When you finish believing that I have some swamp land to sell you. Everyone here that wanted to go home left a long time ago. If you really know someone here that is short the $10 bus fare to go back home, send them my way please. I will even throw in an extra $3 for them to get lunch and dinner. Truth of the matter is that the same way those chicks send money home, home sends money to them as well.
And I have already reported going over to several chicks' places and guys are sending them crazy money for camming or for even nothing. It cuts down my costs to free in some cases because they are still yearning for some real dick. Don't mind if I do.[/QUOTE]I don't thin logic is on your side, I am sure families disowned a lot of them years ago. My experience taught me many hookers do not not two baht to rub together. I'm talking of the Beach Road set.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2444734] They are the most promiscuous and amoral women on the planet. In all my years on earth, I have never quite encountered a nationality that will fuck so readily, under any situation.[/QUOTE]And your point is? Why do you and reach around even go there if you are so critical of their beautiful, slim bodies and willingness to share? BTW how old are you, train wreck? Would you rather be fucking those two-ton motor mouth tussies of Ozland? Sheeesh.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2445322]I want to enhance this statement "the love of the sponsor's cock dries up very quickly".
The ones I know happy to enjoy other cock than the guy that paid them to get here.[/QUOTE]Briffault's law, mate.
Women do not engage in reciprocity.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2445396]I don't thin logic is on your side, I am sure families disowned a lot of them years ago. My experience taught me many hookers do not not two baht to rub together. I'm talking of the Beach Road set.[/QUOTE]Logic may not be on my side, but boots on the ground is on my side. I am here with 386 contacts in my Line App and have not received one message of the sort, while you are not here and have received LOTS of messages of the sort? Hmm. That don't even SOUND right.
I must say that I have not met too many Thais that would fit the bill that you are assigning. The few people right now that are on Beach Road without 2 baht to rub together you can tell who they are. They are homeless. And being that, I doubt that they would be holding communication with you through a cell phone that they would not have, and I doubt that any of us would go up and try to hire them for rack operations.
There are tons of others on Beach Road that are more mainstream Beach Road chicks. Like I said, all you have to do is pass me their information and I can tell you what the REAL deal is. Hell, if they even tell me they are at the corner of Beach Road and Soi 12 and I go down there and they look homeless or starving, I will give them 500 baht for humaitarian sake. Then I will personally take them to the bus station and buy them a ticket so they will no longer be stuck here. Do you want me to help your friends or will you allow them to continue to be stuck?
P.S. First you say they are stuck here with no money to go home. Now you say their families disowned them years ago. So what home are they trying to go to if they have no family? Maybe YOU are not on logic's side! Funny how you never get the sob stories when boots are on the ground. Buffalo only die and relatives are only on their death beds in need of you to send money for the cure when you are not around to verify it.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2445619]There are tons of others on Beach Road that are more mainstream Beach Road chicks. Like I said, all you have to do is pass me their information and I can tell you what the REAL deal is. Hell, if they even tell me they are at the corner of Beach Road and Soi 12 and I go down there and they look homeless or starving, I will give them 500 baht for humaitarian sake. Then I will personally take them to the bus station and buy them a ticket so they will no longer be stuck here. Do you want me to help your friends or will you allow them to continue to be stuck?
P.S. First you say they are stuck here with no money to go home. Now you say their families disowned them years ago. So what home are they trying to go to if they have no family? Maybe YOU are not on logic's side! Funny how you never get the sob stories when boots are on the ground. Buffalo only die and relatives are only on their death beds in need of you to send money for the cure when you are not around to verify it.[/QUOTE]I have given needy women money to desert Pattaya on more than one occasion. One such was a woman offering anal so she could buy milk for her new born baby. A go go gal's mother charged her to mind the baby; the gal was OK on her down time. I didn't take the anal.
I can't and won't bail out random cases. I speak to hookers on line and they give me their take. Not all of them ask for money; the Thais mostly don't ask.
To say that there are not a lot of Thai hookers live mouth to mouth (makes no sense. Beach Road always had them and always will.
As small businesses with no government support, they must be taking a huge hit as their work years are so short. If Virgin Australia could no to stand the heat, how can Virgin Pattaya?
I am only interested regarding factoring in my own responses if and when things clear.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2445619]Funny how you never get the sob stories when boots are on the ground. Buffalo only die and relatives are only on their death beds in need of you to send money for the cure when you are not around to verify it.[/QUOTE]E,
Don't be too critical of distant benefactors. Quite often they fund and generally enable our guilty pleasures when we are in town. 😁.
Normally I would sign off with 'Enjoy, G' but from your pics and posts it's pretty obvious you are doing just that. I'm getting pretty jealous stuck here. 😥.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=RollAides;2445428]Briffault's law, mate.
Women do not engage in reciprocity.[/QUOTE]I looked up some articles about Briffault's law. Interesting reading. While it is true that women may do that calculation, the male also does it. In my case, I stay because I have the freedom to do what I want while enjoying the financial benefit of shared resources.
PP.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2445751]While it is true that women may do that calculation, the male also does it.[/QUOTE]Is agree. Let's take an extreme case: the newly minted internet billionaire who dumps the small town high school sweet heart for the Victoria Secret Supermodel. Did she choose or was she chosen?
There are not too many ugly girls on mega yachts. 😁.
Even in out own circle, many mongers have 'chosen' to leave western partners for LBFMs. Most don't regret the decision. Obviously, she has also 'chosen' an opportunity for a better standard of living.
Queue the discussion of limp dicked, septagenarian mongers who can get nothing more than an impoverished rice farmers daughter. Sure there are plenty of these lost causes but I've also met many who are moderately to very successful and just don't want to fit into the text book suburban lifestyle.
Enjoy.
G.
[QUOTE=RollAides;2445428]Briffault's law, mate.
Women do not engage in reciprocity.[/QUOTE]
It says that they do not engage in a relationship unless they get something out of it.
Basically an observation on all human interaction and not only male / female sexual interaction.
I would not be on ISG unless I got something out of it, entertainment, information etc. In exchange for my attention.
ISG would not be running unless Jackson gets something out of it, our attention which he then trades for us reading the advertising that he sales to get money to operate the site and to live on.
I will not go into a store unless I am getting something out of it, an exchange of goods for money. The store will not be open unless they are getting something out of it, exchange of money for goods. The employees will not be there unless they are getting something out of it, an exchange of time for money.
Sounds like just basic marketing theory, you exchange something for something else and hopefully both sides value (or in economist speak give more utility to) what they get more than what they give up.
[URL]https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/machiavellians-gulling-the-rubes/201610/briffaults-law-women-rule[/URL]
Look up what % of western women file for divorces? 80%? Lmao diminishing marginal utility! Aka the plight / bane of too many western mongers LOL.
Not much better than hypergamy lmao.
[QUOTE=DCups;2445402]And your point is? Why do you and reach around even go there if you are so critical of their beautiful, slim bodies and willingness to share? BTW how old are you, train wreck? Would you rather be fucking those two-ton motor mouth tussies of Ozland? Sheeesh.[/QUOTE]Sheeesh. If you dislike Messrs Reacharound's and Trainwreck's creative masterpieces so much, why do you so effortlessly keep falling into their trap? Every single time! Sheeesh. LOL.
Sarcasm, acerbic wit and humor is lost on many mongers. LOL.
[URL]https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/how-do-life/202004/the-gender-gap-in-empathy[/URL]
[URL]http://www.martynemko.com/articles/men-dont-have-it-easy-either_id1594[/URL]
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2445641]I can't and won't bail out random cases. I speak to hookers on line and they give me their take. Not all of them ask for money; the Thais mostly don't ask.
To say that there are not a lot of Thai hookers live mouth to mouth (makes no sense. Beach Road always had them and always will.[/QUOTE]You are missing the point. This has nothing to do with Australia. This has nothing to do with Thai hookers asking for money or not. This has everything to do with you saying that you receieved MANY messages of chicks in Pattaya saying they were stuck here not able to go home because they had no money. I said that if someone told you that then they are lying. You reached for and continue to reach for reasons that it had to be true (including their families disowning them).
I am in no way saying people can afford a shiny new Cadillac or even a Wagyu A5 for dinner. All I am saying is they can afford bus fare home had they really wanted to go. At the beginning of the month their share of the rent would have been an absolute minimum of $50, when bus fare up out of here is only $10. (Kind of like people saying they can't afford birth control or an abortion, but they can afford to take care of a baby.)
I was willing to easily disprove those messages by offering them a free ride home and spending money. Instead of allowing them to receive free help from me, you are choosing to let them remain stuck and destitute. I do not think you really believed the statement the first time you made it, yet you continue to fight for its veracity.
So you are swearing that a lion is getting ready to eat some kids. I tell there are no kids in the lion cage, but if there are I have a spare rope right here and I can easily get them to safety at no cost or trouble to you. You continue to stress to everyone about the lion about to eat the kids, but refuse to point me towards the cage so they can be easily saved. You want to pull all the fire alarms and yell fire, fire. But when the firemen arrive, instead of pointing them to the blaze you just continue to yell fire. Make that make sense.
[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2445776][URL]https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/machiavellians-gulling-the-rubes/201610/briffaults-law-women-rule[/URL]
Look up what % of western women file for divorces? 80%? Lmao diminishing marginal utility! Aka the plight / bane of too many western mongers LOL.
Not much better than hypergamy lmao.[/QUOTE]It is the guys' own fault. They beg women to marry them, hand over the keys to the kingdom, then they end up getting put out of the kingdom they built.
American basketball player Stephen Jackson should be a shinning example. He paid $400,000 for a wedding. Him and his bride to be drew up a prenuptial agreement together on how everything would play out if they ever broke up. She put off signing the agreement even up until everyone had showed up at the chapel for the wedding. She had even written in some crazy ass additional stuff in her favor that he never agreed to. The preacher (that she picked out) tried to convince him there was no need for the agreement and everything would be fine with love and god in their lives. He said fuck that bullshit and refused to get married that day.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2445751]I looked up some articles about Briffault's law. Interesting reading. While it is true that women may do that calculation, the male also does it. In my case, I stay because I have the freedom to do what I want while enjoying the financial benefit of shared resources.
PP.[/QUOTE]The manosphere has come up with a very important addendum to Briffault's law. The addendum says that what a man gave to or did for a woman, or what a man is giving now or doing now for a woman matters not. Past and present contributions are null and void in the woman's mind. The only thing that matters to a woman is what she can expect to get from a man in the future. This is paramount. Give 1 million to a woman today and you might as well have given her nothing as far as her future behaviour towards you is concerned. FUTURE rewards are all that matter.
Does this also obtain in friendships or business relationships between men (males)? I think not.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2445856]It is the guys' own fault. They beg women to marry them, hand over the keys to the kingdom, then they end up getting put out of the kingdom they built.
American basketball player Stephen Jackson should be a shinning example. He paid $400,000 for a wedding. Him and his bride to be drew up a prenuptial agreement together on how everything would play out if they ever broke up. She put off signing the agreement even up until everyone had showed up at the chapel for the wedding. She had even written in some crazy ass additional stuff in her favor that he never agreed to. The preacher (that she picked out) tried to convince him there was no need for the agreement and everything would be fine with love and god in their lives. He said fuck that bullshit and refused to get married that day.[/QUOTE]You left out the best part of the story:
What did he do after paying $400 k for a cancelled wedding? Wheel in the booze, have a kick ass party in the newly available rooms and bang a couple of the Brides Maids for good measure. 😁.
Now that's ballin'.
G.
[QUOTE=XXL;2445864]The manosphere has come up with a very important addendum to Briffault's law. The addendum says that what a man gave to or did for a woman, or what a man is giving now or doing now for a woman matters not. Past and present contributions are null and void in the woman's mind. The only thing that matters to a woman is what she can expect to get from a man in the future. This is paramount. Give 1 million to a woman today and you might as well have given her nothing as far as her future behaviour towards you is concerned. FUTURE rewards are all that matter.
Does this also obtain in friendships or business relationships between men (males)? I think not.[/QUOTE]This is especially true for Filipinas, most of whom, do not love you. They love you because they need you. They do not need you because they love you. Soon as you give the money, etc. It is forgotten. There is no quid pro quo.
Yup, I was specifically referring to a fairly well-known post on Stickman's forums from a while back.
[URL]https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/readers-submissions/2009/11/the-rosetta-stone-of-womens-behavior/[/URL]
As XXL has pointed out, there's a lot more to it than the original formulation by Briffault.
[B]Briffaults Law:[/B]
The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.
[B]Corollaries:[/B]
1. Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association.
2. Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit (see corollary 1).
3. A promise of future benefit has limited influence on current / future association, with the influence inversely proportionate to the length of time until the benefit will be given and directly proportionate to the degree to which the female trusts the male (which is not bloody likely).
Catch the story from Stephen Jackson's own mouth. [URL]https://youtu.be/mPOdN1F8UCg.[/URL] It looks to me like he just barely escaped a total disaster. Ha Ha. I mean what was he thinking in the first place getting engaged? And take a look at Imani Showalter his once upon a time fiance. Yikes! Apparently he is alright now, but still another casualty of American sexual prison/suffragette. Free your mind of all that feminist crap Stephen and fly to SE Asia or Africa, if you prefer black girls, via private jet as soon as possible. Treat all your sexy new friends nice. You will never look back.
Marriage is a plain vanilla financial contract. Even with the most iron clad prenup it is still a financial arrangement and self inflicted homicide. 555.
On Briffaults Law: I don't subscribe. Take a look at how Lions behave in the wild. The pride is composed of related females and their offspring, but the male Lion is the King. He defends his pride against all and contributes his alpha DNA to future generations. When a male Lion is deposed by another male Lion, the new King kills all the young nursing cubs in the pride so he can begin sowing his seed amongst the females as soon as possible. Were primitive Homo Sapiens significantly different?
[QUOTE=RollAides;2445909][B]Briffaults Law:[/B]
The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.[/QUOTE]He should have prefaced it with, "In ordinary circumstances" and then changed "can derive no benefit" to "[B]believes[/B] she can derive no benefit".
I say this because in the cases of pimping and playing you can sell a chick dreams all day long. An extraordinary male can lead the female to believe she can and is deriving benefit, when in actuality she is getting nothing (well nothing tanglible anyway.) Maybe there is some emotional or educational benefit she is receiving.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2445911]...Marriage is a plain vanilla financial contract. Even with the most iron clad prenup it is still a financial arrangement and self inflicted homicide.[/QUOTE]I am amazed how decent, smart folks, keep getting taken by this marriage crap. It's the biggest fool's trap. A philosopher once said "marriage as an institution has been a failure". I would add that it has been an abject failure.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2445911]Catch the story from Stephen Jackson's own mouth. [URL]https://youtu.be/mPOdN1F8UCg.[/URL] It looks to me like he just barely escaped a total disaster. Ha Ha. I mean what was he thinking in the first place getting engaged? And take a look at Imani Showalter his once upon a time fiance. Yikes! Apparently he is alright now, but still another casualty of American sexual prison/suffragette. Free your mind of all that feminist crap Stephen and fly to SE Asia via private jet as soon as possible. Treat all your new sexy Asian friends nice. You will never look back. Marriage is a plain vanilla financial contract. Even with the most iron clad prenup it is still a financial arrangement and self inflicted homicide. 555.[/QUOTE]He still screwed up by spending $400,000 of his money on that BS! Now, I was thinking why in the hell did he think that she was still going to sign? Why did he wait that long to be virtually at the alter? Well before then he should have known she had no intention to sign, and he should have called the whole thing off long before ponying up $400 grand! These players wives and girlfriends are just like all the rest of the tutes. When the money is gone, so are they! And thank God hahaha! Like we mongers know, we're paying them to leave LOL! But, we want to make sure that they leave with what we agreed to give them, which isn't half of what we spent our lives earning and building, plus alimony and child support. Damn straight! I understand that when it was all over, this is the first song they played at the party hehehe: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vwNcNOTVzY[/URL].
I am amazed how decent, smart folks, keep getting taken by this marriage crap. It's the biggest fool's trap. A philosopher once said "marriage as an institution has been a failure". I would add that it has been an abject failure.
Not those vampires with vaginas (or the divorce attys, vampires with JD degrees).
[URL]https://stricturism.wordpress.com/2017/05/12/a-note-on-sex-women-and-marriage-to-my-son-on-his-21st-birthday/[/URL]
For mongers who are interested in Flip history and have time on their hands, there's a fascinating documentary called "The Kingmaker". It's largely about Imelda's unchecked abuse of power over a thirty year period. Her insatiable thirst for power, wealth and influence has not waned one bit despite her advancing years. What's particularly alarming is a bunch of current school kids who weren't even around at the time of the Marcoses think that life under the conjugal dictatorship (and martial law) was fabulous and that the Philippines was very wealthy at the time. Even more alarming is that Imee and BongBong can almost smell the Presidential seat. They just have to wait for Du30 to step aside, as he rules very much under their patronage.
Nixon was a regular visitor to Imelda's suite at the Waldorf Astoria in NYC. You can be assured that BBFSCIP and BBBJCIM were very much on the agenda. Stuff that Patty would never have provided. Hahahaha.
Another interesting tidbit not in the film is that Imelda and Marcos were very keen for Prince Charles to marry their daughter Imee. They lobbied through various intermediaries. I don't know if they actually ever met, but the fact they actually thought this was appropriate and achievable tells us just what an inflated opinion they had of themselves. Prince Philip would have seriously thought Imee was the laundry girl. Hahahaha.
[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2445987]I am amazed how decent, smart folks, keep getting taken by this marriage crap. It's the biggest fool's trap. A philosopher once said "marriage as an institution has been a failure". I would add that it has been an abject failure.
Not those vampires with vaginas (or the divorce attys, vampires with JD degrees).
[URL]https://stricturism.wordpress.com/2017/05/12/a-note-on-sex-women-and-marriage-to-my-son-on-his-21st-birthday/[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm a divorce attorney myself. I love getting paid $400 an hour to fight clients' petty squabbles over the wagon-wheel coffee table or who gets an extra couple of hours with the rug rats. Is it a great country or what? LOL.
RG.
He should have prefaced it with, "In ordinary circumstances" and then changed "can derive no benefit" to "[B]believes[/B] she can derive no benefit".
I say this because in the cases of pimping and playing you can sell a chick dreams all day long. An extraordinary male can lead the female to believe she can and is deriving benefit, when in actuality she is getting nothing (well nothing tanglible anyway.) Maybe there is some emotional or educational benefit she is receiving.
I call this "hustle inversion".
Flip that shit, "mongering Aikido".
I nominate this post for the ISG Hall of Fame!
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2446189]I'm a divorce attorney myself. I love getting paid $400 an hour to fight clients' petty squabbles over the wagon-wheel coffee table or who gets an extra couple of hours with the rug rats. Is it a great country or what? LOL.
RG.[/QUOTE]In my country at least, divorce proceedings can be so expensive because who gets what is largely predetermined by the courts, regardless of who cheated on who, who worked 3 jobs while the other stayed at home or who was a CEO while the other was 'writing a novel' for 10 years.
Whomever decides that they are entitled to anything besides these predetermined allowances or that they should be compensated for the other's misdeeds has to pay through the nose. Here it's very rare to have an at-fault divorce recognized at all, let alone compensated.
Cheers. G.
Hi guys not sure if this is in the right spot but I'm looking at a new credit card and was wondering if Amex is accepted across the board in Philippines or if I'm better off just going with Visa?
[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2445987]I am amazed how decent, smart folks, keep getting taken by this marriage crap. It's the biggest fool's trap. A philosopher once said "marriage as an institution has been a failure". I would add that it has been an abject failure.
Not those vampires with vaginas (or the divorce attys, vampires with JD degrees).
[URL]https://stricturism.wordpress.com/2017/05/12/a-note-on-sex-women-and-marriage-to-my-son-on-his-21st-birthday/[/URL][/QUOTE]Another philosopher, or maybe a stand-up comedian, once said "marriage is an institution, and who wants to spend the rest of their life living in an institution?
[QUOTE=DeepXliv;2446278]Hi guys not sure if this is in the right spot but I'm looking at a new credit card and was wondering if Amex is accepted across the board in Philippines or if I'm better off just going with Visa?[/QUOTE]As well as acceptance, you also need to consider the obscene fees that can be applied with Amex transactions.
[QUOTE=DeepXliv;2446278]Hi guys not sure if this is in the right spot but I'm looking at a new credit card and was wondering if Amex is accepted across the board in Philippines or if I'm better off just going with Visa?[/QUOTE]Sure. The Platinum card is accepted world wide, which would include Philippines and other countries you have asked about. The problem is it might only be accepted in more expensive places. Of course you would know that being an AMEX card holder.
[QUOTE=Stykler;2446317]As well as acceptance, you also need to consider the obscene fees that can be applied with Amex transactions.[/QUOTE]*It's not obscene fees to the elite.
Some like to get their rocks off using an elite card.
*disclosure. I am not an AMEX card holder.
[QUOTE=DeepXliv;2446278]Hi guys not sure if this is in the right spot but I'm looking at a new credit card and was wondering if Amex is accepted across the board in Philippines or if I'm better off just going with Visa?[/QUOTE]No problem using Amex at major hotels, American fast food places (like Starbucks), airlines or large department stores etc. If you were to go to the local sari sari store to buy your LBFM a 25 kg sack of rice and produced your Amex Black Card to pay for it, they would say "I'm sorry Siiirrrr, but your card has been declined".
[QUOTE=DeepXliv;2446278]Hi guys not sure if this is in the right spot but I'm looking at a new credit card and was wondering if Amex is accepted across the board in Philippines or if I'm better off just going with Visa?[/QUOTE]Realistically you will be using cash for most day-to-day transactions.
I tried using my visa at Johnnies in AC and it was a major disruption to the whole low. Just stick to cash.
Touche' RG.
I would just like to say if you have any redeeming qualities as a human being, I hope you charge the females a higher hourly rate and then overbill them even more than you do the men LOL.
And in the end fight a little less hard for your female clients helping us on the other side LOL.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2446189]I'm a divorce attorney myself. I love getting paid $400 an hour to fight clients' petty squabbles over the wagon-wheel coffee table or who gets an extra couple of hours with the rug rats. Is it a great country or what? LOL.
RG.[/QUOTE]My divorce attourny was very upfront about his fees. He made it clear that he would charge his hourly rate no matter what the argurment. If I wanted to pay his rate to argue over small or large amounts the fee was the same. Since I am a construction engineer used of thinking in terms of costs and not winnin at all cost, I was able to keep the costs reasonable, At the end my ex wanted an additional couple of thousand. I quickly determined tha I coud give it to her or to the lawyer, and still might have to give it to her anyway. I hated t let the ***** think that she had won so I said, it was worth the extra to get rid of her and have her out of my life. The look when she realized what she had really lost at that moment was worth the couple grand.
An ex girlfriend and her ex hiusband picked the opposite route, they spend several thousand dollars in legal efes argueing over something worth a couple of hundred just because they were so caught up in the idea of winnig that they could not let it go.
Why is divorce so expensive?
Because it is worth it.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2446349]Why is divorce so expensive?
Because it is worth it.[/QUOTE]Or because spouses allow it to be.
As we pointed out arguing over the ottoman can get expensive but Arbitrated Agreements have become popular and enforceable.
It souldn't be a hard sell to sit down and agree in who gets what vs spend a combined $100 k in fees. Note I said "shouldn't". 😁.
G.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2446328]Realistically you will be using cash for most day-to-day transactions.
I tried using my visa at Johnnies in AC and it was a major disruption to the whole low. Just stick to cash.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Cash via ATM is king. Therefore, I never rely totally on just one card nor provider. I've had instances where one card or bank were not accepted but another was.
I've found Visa and MasterCard the most reliable.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2446355]Or because spouses allow it to be.
As we pointed out arguing over the ottoman can get expensive but Arbitrated Agreements have become popular and enforceable.
It souldn't be a hard sell to sit down and agree in who gets what vs spend a combined $100 k in fees. Note I said "shouldn't". [/QUOTE]Totally agree. That is why I do not get it. I asked my wife how she wanted to divide everything. I drew up the paperwork for her to sign. Instead, she decided to get a lawyer. We went to court and the judge gave me more than the original agreement.
The shit would have cost me only $35 to file the original agreement. Because she went to get a lawyer, ended up costing me the same $35 to file and an extra $15 to serve, and cost her $1500 for the lawyer plus the stuff the judge decided to give to me instead of her. Easier and cheaper to work shit out on your own, type that shit up, and file it yourself. Hundreds of examples to follow on the internet, but greed is a mf.
Here is a video of the army killing a guy in QC for breaking the lockdown. Note the onlookers mob about and do not socially distance. Note the other soldiers don't draw and don't seem as concerned. Moral of the story: wait til Duterte gives us the green light to bonk.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LBkN4o5b1w[/URL]
[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2446331]Touche' RG. I hope you charge the females a higher hourly rate and then overbill them even more than you do the men LOL.[/QUOTE]In my case it would not have mattered because the fees of both sides lawyers were all paid from the same joint pot which reduced what we each got as the pot shrunk. My Ex ran our legal fees way up, wanting minor historical financial details daily for over six months costing both of us thousands. For example, "what happened to the proceeds we received from a used car sale 5 years prior". You would not believe how many attorney hours of back and forth these minutia took and of course both lawyers were enjoying the fees piling up so did nothing to bring some sanity to the exercise. Got to stop this, my blood pressure is going up.
This is Singapore Airlines offering cheap lights, not some bum airline. The price war has begun. Tell the women we are cumming in September [URL]https://www.holidaypirates.com/flights/flights-to-south-east-asia-from-gbp-379-return-sept-march_36038[/URL].
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2446565]This is Singapore Airlines offering cheap lights, not some bum airline. The price war has begun. Tell the women we are cumming in September [URL]https://www.holidaypirates.com/flights/flights-to-south-east-asia-from-gbp-379-return-sept-march_36038[/URL].[/QUOTE]Si senor. October for me.
Well at least it is almost May.
"Australians will have to wait at least six months before they can travel overseas"
[URL]https://pattayaone.news/australians-will-have-to-wait-at-least-six-months-before-they-can-travel-overseas-but-interstate-flights-could-resume-much-earlier-as-covid-19-lockdown-is-eased/[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2447284]Well at least it is almost May. "Australians will have to wait at least six months before they can travel overseas" [URL]https://pattayaone.news/australians-will-have-to-wait-at-least-six-months-before-they-can-travel-overseas-but-interstate-flights-could-resume-much-earlier-as-covid-19-lockdown-is-eased/[/URL][/QUOTE]Adding to this:
Pres. Rodrigo Duterte is considering 'modified quarantine' next month [URL]https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/national/pres-rodrigo-duterte-is-considering-modified-quarantine-next-month/ar-BB13nwdd?li=BBr8Mkn&ocid=wispr[/URL].
Ten cruise ships with over 3,000 Pinoy crew still in Manila Bay [URL]https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/national/ten-cruise-ships-with-over-3000-pinoy-crew-still-in-manila-bay/ar-BB13np6o?li=BBr8Mkn&ocid=wispr[/URL].
For Aussies: 'Foreign travel unlikely this year' [URL]https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/national/foreign-travel-unlikely-this-year/ar-BB13nI3j?li=BBr8Mkn&ocid=wispr[/URL].
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2447329]For Aussies: 'Foreign travel unlikely this year' [URL]https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/national/foreign-travel-unlikely-this-year/ar-BB13nI3j?li=BBr8Mkn&ocid=wispr[/URL].[/QUOTE]You would think after seeing some of this that millions of Filipinos are critically ill or dead, with the rest infected, cowering and starving. Instead, we get simpering and smirking pronouncements from a president who gets a hard on talking about how he's going to bully these poor people. Duterte's act ought to have worn thin by now.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2447284]Well at least it is almost May.
"Australians will have to wait at least six months before they can travel overseas"
[URL]https://pattayaone.news/australians-will-have-to-wait-at-least-six-months-before-they-can-travel-overseas-but-interstate-flights-could-resume-much-earlier-as-covid-19-lockdown-is-eased/[/URL][/QUOTE]True but some travel is allowed for certain reasons such as emergency work, essential services and work if can prove it. Going to Pattaya, Manila etc for mongering is not one of those reasons LOL.
FIFO workers still travel as one idiot went to Bali recently and came back with COVID 19 - luckily he was found out on arrival in Australia and quarantined (and got a mouthful from the State Premier also).
Just depends but for sure is not easy for mongers who need to find solace in their homeland or themselves.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2447367]True but some travel is allowed for certain reasons such as emergency work, essential services and work if can prove it. Going to Pattaya, Manila etc for mongering is not one of those reasons LOL.[/QUOTE]This is not hard to solve. All we need is a few politicians on a "Fact Finding Mission" to Burgos or AC and I guarantee that dick sucking will become an Essential Service. Bars could even be given Diplomatic Immunity to reopen early. 😁.
I wish the senator that got busted for monger trips to see his AC hooker would just spread the word.
[URL]https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/george-christensen-a-regular-at-philippines-adult-entertainment-bar-manager-20191202-p53g57.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Goferring;2447398]This is not hard to solve. All we need is a few politicians on a "Fact Finding Mission" to Burgos or AC and I guarantee that dick sucking will become an Essential Service. Bars could even be given Diplomatic Immunity to reopen early. 😁.
I wish the senator that got busted for monger trips to see his AC hooker would just spread the word.
[URL]https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/george-christensen-a-regular-at-philippines-adult-entertainment-bar-manager-20191202-p53g57.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Fucking George Christensen for a living. Now that's what I call earning your money!
[QUOTE=Stykler;2447428]Fucking George Christensen for a living. Now that's what I call earning your money![/QUOTE]ROFLMAO. 😂.
Poor girl should be the one getting 12% Super and perks for life. 👍.
G.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2446565]This is Singapore Airlines offering cheap lights, not some bum airline. [/QUOTE]Hmmm.. Wonder if the bum in this video is confused about whether or not entrance visas are being issued now or anytime soon, or if Singapore Airlines likes refunding tickets?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AaWekns0wk[/URL]#action=share.
[QUOTE=Stykler;2447428]Fucking George Christensen for a living. Now that's what I call earning your money![/QUOTE]I had to remind myself who George Christensen was. Many prefer old guys as they have more money and can barely make one pop. That means a good night's sleep, which is what hookers really crave.
Sorry, it's too late to edit my post. Apparently the Philippines News Agency retracted something in their earlier statement regarding a September opening. (About 10 minute mark).
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2445355]Very few of the ones in Australia are fuckable, so you could say you are not missing out on anything. Within 12 months of landing in Rich White Man Land, they will resemble brown refrigerators. 4'8" high and 4'8" wide. They have zero knowledge of nutrition, and I'm talking about the so called college educated ones. An endless supply of Tim Tams, full cream milk, vente sized frappes, quarterpounders with supersize fries, washed down with 2 litres of full sugar Coke each day will do that. They also don't walk anywhere, getting driven around by the gullible monger in his 20 year old Toyota Camry. There is so much food in RWML that immigrants from shithole countries just can't stop eating.
I once asked an LBFM, who had put on a few pounds and was complaining about her full sized rump, to switch to Coke Zero, or Coke Lite as they call it, instead of guzzling full strength Coke all day. She stared at me like I was some imbecile and said, "OMG, how can anyone drink that?. I would die without Coke. " Yeah, die from obesity and type 2 diabetes you fuckin' Einstein.[/QUOTE]This one can be found on the Gold Coast, Queensland.
[QUOTE=Docwiltro;2447491]This one can be found on the Gold Coast, Queensland.[/QUOTE]Yep, not too shabby. Let me guess, she's a care giver at an old people's nursing home?
After the 15th of May, if the ECQ will not be extended anymore, we should all assume that a GCQ will be imposed on ALL of the regions affected by the COVID-19. Let us help Malacaang in informing people of the new normal we have to follow. Familiarize yourselves to avoid confusion.
General Community Quarantine (GCQ) Rules:
1. Selected workers in non-essential services are allowed to go to work.
-electronics.
-exports.
-manufacturing.
-e-commerce.
-delivery.
-repair services.
-maintenance.
-housing.
2. Half of employees work from home, 50 percent are working on site:
● Finance.
Business process outsourcing (BPO).
Non-leisure trade and service.
3. Will remain closed:
Schools.
Amusement centers.
Leisure facilities.
Gaming.
Tourism services.
4. NOT permitted to leave the house:
Children (0 to 20 years old).
Elderly (60 years old and above).
People with high-risk health issues.
5. ONLY shops catering to necessities will be allowed to re-open in malls. Malls will limit entry of shoppers.
6. Airconditioning will be limited in malls. WIFI will not be provided. NO loittering allowed.
7. Priority construction projects can resume.
8. Nonworkers are allowed to buy food and go out to avail of essential services.
Allowed will be people who are 21 to 59 years old.
Except again: children, elderly, vulnerable people.
9. Public transport can operate at reduced capacity.
10. Local government units shall enforce curfew for non workers.
11. Airports and ports can only operate for the unhampered delivery of goods.
Plans of going out or reunions after May 15 are still not entirely possible. You are required to bring an I. The. That specifies your AGE and ADDRESS wherever you go. Checkpoints will still be in place. You will still be questioned if you defy the rules.
We need to abide by the guidelines. Be aware that we are trying to avoid a second wave which is considered to be more damaging than the first.
We can do this.
[QUOTE=Docwiltro;2447491]This one can be found on the Gold Coast, Queensland.[/QUOTE]Will thousands of you guys be sharing that 1?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2447555]Will thousands of you guys be sharing that 1?[/QUOTE]Not yet but there is a queue forming at the state border for when we can get to her. 😁.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2447582]Not yet but there is a queue forming at the state border for when we can get to her. 😁.[/QUOTE]Remember rule #1.
Queue up 6 feet apart. Thats from the tip of your dick or your belly which ever is out the furthest. In some cases that would be 7 feet from the chest!
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2447601]Remember rule #1.
Queue up 6 feet apart. Thats from the tip of your dick or your belly which ever is out the furthest. In some cases that would be 7 feet from the chest![/QUOTE]Sort of reminds me of the good 'ol days in the iron ore towns. Hundreds of guys and only a hand full of girls in town / camp. Forever on, never off rosters. Nothing to spend money on. Then a couple of hussies would appear in rooms behind the pub.
Do you think they were kept very busy? 😳.
Enjoy. G.
From the AC thread. Seemed more appropriate here.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2447929]I have had local girls overnight and they were happy with 1000. Daytime sex for 500. I am getting laid a couple times a week for less than USD 1000 a month including living costs. Hard to find girls willing to risk the ECQ rules to come over. Once we go to GCQ it should be easier.
If I could find a comparable live in GF, I would do that until the virus threat goes away and would get fucked and sucked daily for my 50 k p a month.[/QUOTE]While my living expenses in my province are a bit more each month, girly expenses are the same. Two of my fairly fearful regular girls here (they are lifelong friends) would not leave home, even under GQ rules. However, they knew other less-fearful girls who were willing, and we have a similar situation: One new girl spends 2 or 3 nights weekly, the other new girl spends 1 night and 1 afternoon weekly. Couldn't get much better. All 4 girls are friends. Will need to rotate the first 2 regulars back in when they feel more comfortable getting outside. Lockdown lightened yesterday, a number of shuttered resto's re-opened up around town and in a mall here (takeout only, in-house dining with social distancing coming soon I was told at one of them), and the province told a number of shuttered workers to go back to work. All in, about p70 k per month. I did not lock down in this place by accident.
A live-in GF. Yuck.
I do not want a live-in GF. No Way! It just gets old fast and is far too restrictive. I do have my repeat favorites who are too good to throw away, but I think I will always need/want to find new girls to keep things lively and interesting. God help me. LOL.
Tangentially related to this subject, I just watched a documentary last night on the post impressionist painter Paul Gauguin entitled "Gauguin: The Full Story" directed by art historian Waldemar Januszczak on Amazon Prime. I highly recommend viewing it. Gauguin was one of us - he loved young girls - and travelled around the world to find them. It ended badly for Gauguin (penicillin was not invented until 1928), but man he mongered good until almost the very end. It was very interesting to watch his metamorphosis from stockbroker/husband/family man to painter/bohemian/punter extraordinaire. He let it all go loose. And what a great artist!
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2445355]Very few of the ones in Australia are fuckable, so you could say you are not missing out on anything. Within 12 months of landing in Rich White Man Land, they will resemble brown refrigerators. 4'8" high and 4'8" wide. They have zero knowledge of nutrition, and I'm talking about the so called college educated ones. An endless supply of Tim Tams, full cream milk, vente sized frappes, quarterpounders with supersize fries, washed down with 2 litres of full sugar Coke each day will do that. They also don't walk anywhere, getting driven around by the gullible monger in his 20 year old Toyota Camry. There is so much food in RWML that immigrants from shithole countries just can't stop eating.
.[/QUOTE]It is quite entertaining to go to my local shopping mall in Sydney on a Saturday morning and watch the 5-6/10 rated 20's-30+ y.o prospective refrigerator Pinays tagging along behind some decrepit old male who needs to slouch over the shopping trolley to stay upright. Girls always on the lookout for younger males to throw knowing smiles to as they walk past.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2448604]It is quite entertaining to go to my local shopping mall in Sydney on a Saturday morning and watch the 5-6/10 rated 20's-30+ y.o prospective refrigerator Pinays tagging along behind some decrepit old male who needs to slouch over the shopping trolley to stay upright. Girls always on the lookout for younger males to throw knowing smiles to as they walk past.[/QUOTE]Since the Aussie permanent residency visa chop is now securely in her Pilipinas passport, the wily Pinay is free to cast the net and see what she can catch at the shopping mall. The poor old codger is probably getting his nightly glass of warm milk with a few extra additives to speed up the, shall we say, "ageing process." Is he also getting his nightly BBBJCIM with swallow? I think that all stopped after the Pinay got the visa chop. Hahaha. The only problem is that after feasting on Tim Tams, Big Macs and Vente sized Starbucks frappes over the past few years in RWML, the LBFM has now morphed into a brown refrigerator.
Do any young guys want to be seen with a fat mail order bride?
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2448926]Since the Aussie permanent residency visa chop is now securely in her Pilipinas passport, the wily Pinay is free to cast the net and see what she can catch at the shopping mall. The poor old codger is probably getting his nightly glass of warm milk with a few extra additives to speed up the, shall we say, "ageing process." Is he also getting his nightly BBBJCIM with swallow? I think that all stopped after the Pinay got the visa chop. Hahaha. The only problem is that after feasting on Tim Tams, Big Macs and Vente sized Starbucks frappes over the past few years in RWML, the LBFM has now morphed into a brown refrigerator.
Do any young guys want to be seen with a fat mail order bride?[/QUOTE]AG forgot to mention the trailing 4 spoilt, obviously 100% Filipino, kids that John has adopted and is putting through a private Catholic School because he "loves them like they are his own". And, of course, Lyn's visiting "brother" who has secured a 3 month visitor Visa twice a year. He barely moves while John is home but finds novel ways to help Lyn when he, John, is at work.
Yes, young guys like the newly imported still slim and pretty girls. The club and Casino dance floors are full of them most nights. But the older wives who have been in the TimTam feedlot must resort to side dicks who are burnt out mongers too, still in town saving up for their next big fucktrip.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2448926]Since the Aussie permanent residency visa chop is now securely in her Pilipinas passport, the wily Pinay is free to cast the net and see what she can catch at the shopping mall. The poor old codger is probably getting his nightly glass of warm milk with a few extra additives to speed up the, shall we say, "ageing process." Is he also getting his nightly BBBJCIM with swallow? I think that all stopped after the Pinay got the visa chop. Hahaha. The only problem is that after feasting on Tim Tams, Big Macs and Vente sized Starbucks frappes over the past few years in RWML, the LBFM has now morphed into a brown refrigerator.
Do any young guys want to be seen with a fat mail order bride?[/QUOTE]Do you think the old coot gives her a Caramello Koala as a treat after each BBBJCIM w / swallow, as our beloved Grandpa Caramello did on his legendary forays into Southeast Asia and Micronesia? He would be surprised to find out that the ambitions of his darling LBFM now go far beyond a Caramello Koala. In RWML she expects a house and luxury car in return for the same BBBJCIM w / swallow she used to give him for a Caramello Koala in Flipsville. Oh how her expectations have swiftly grown! Hahaha!
[QUOTE=Goferring;2449014]AG forgot to mention the trailing 4 spoilt, obviously 100% Filipino, kids that John has adopted and is putting through a private Catholic School because he "loves them like they are his own". And, of course, Lyn's visiting "brother" who has secured a 3 month visitor Visa twice a year. He barely moves while John is home but finds novel ways to help Lyn when he, John, is at work.
Yes, young guys like the newly imported still slim and pretty girls. The club and Casino dance floors are full of them most nights. But the older wives who have been in the TimTam feedlot must resort to side dicks who are burnt out mongers too, still in town saving up for their next big fucktrip.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Yes that's very true. All the dating site girls are God fearing and want the monger to love her bastard kids like they're his own. Hahaha. I feel for the suckers that get trapped in this mess.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2449058]Do you think the old coot gives her a Caramello Koala as a treat after each BBBJCIM w / swallow, as our beloved Grandpa Caramello did on his legendary forays into Southeast Asia and Micronesia? He would be surprised to find out that the ambitions of his darling LBFM now go far beyond a Caramello Koala. In RWML she expects a house and luxury car in return for the same BBBJCIM w / swallow she used to give him for a Caramello Koala in Flipsville. Oh how her expectations have swiftly grown! Hahaha![/QUOTE]As you may know, Grandpa Caramello did not monger in his home country and never experienced the outrageous demands made by LBFMs in RWML. He was lucky. He limited his hymen busting missions and endless pursuit of BBBJCIM w / swallow to South East Asia and Micronesia only. This ensured that he kept his costs down, meanwhile protecting his stellar reputation back in RWML.
On the day the RWML PR visa is in the worthless passport of those Filipinas, sex suddenly stops. There is no way those old coots are getting anymore BBBJCIM w / swallow. Hahaha. She will do the best she can to speed up death or divorce.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2449014]AG forgot to mention the trailing 4 spoilt, obviously 100% Filipino, kids that John has adopted and is putting through a private Catholic School because he "loves them like they are his own". And, of course, Lyn's visiting "brother" who has secured a 3 month visitor Visa twice a year. He barely moves while John is home but finds novel ways to help Lyn when he, John, is at work.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Haven't seen any of those yet, but occasionally the girl will be carrying (internally or externally) the by-products of their consummations.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2449332]As you may know, Grandpa Caramello did not monger in his home country and never experienced the outrageous demands made by LBFMs in RWML. He was lucky. He limited his hymen busting missions and endless pursuit of BBBJCIM w / swallow to South East Asia and Micronesia only. This ensured that he kept his costs down, meanwhile protecting his stellar reputation back in RWML.
On the day the RWML PR visa is in the worthless passport of those Filipinas, sex suddenly stops. There is no way those old coots are getting anymore BBBJCIM w / swallow. Hahaha. She will do the best she can to speed up death or divorce.[/QUOTE]True. Grandpa Caramello was sagacious as he was wily. He never fell for a relationship with one of those LBFMs with marvelous BBBJCIMWS skills, remaining a confirmed bachelor all his long life. In Brisbane and Oz at large, he curated an impeccable reputation as a kindly old grandfather handing out his favorite treats. He would occasionally promise one of his extremely attractive Southeast Asian or Micronesian conquests marriage in return for busting her hymen but he would vanish from her bed during the wee hours of the morning without leaving behind any trace of his existence beyond the cream pie in her pussy. He was a true master and legend to the game. RIP! Legend!
You guys should team up and write comic books. There might be a new market for an adult series of cartoons. Maybe start a thread to suggest the name of the first episode.
It seems that this area of the ISG has become an area of either jealousy because the old guys can still enjoy life or a platform to criticize anyone that doesn't bow down to a couple of posters. There are many of us that have been all over the world and don't really care what your one sided opinions are. Also these older guys that you seem to want to constantly rib also don't give a damn about what you have to say. Everyone will get old and die. If you think there is a threshold where a man that has money should stop enjoying himself then you should bow down to the so called masters of the internet as it has yet to be determined. That old guy with the young Filipina has been through more shit than you can even imagine and if you have a problem with it then maybe you should find another hobby. This board has been to help fellow mongers not to be a judgmental platform where a few people decide what is best for everybody. We have all traveled and we have all been laid. Lets get back to that and stop worrying about what someone else is doing.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2450033]You guys should team up and write comic books. There might be a new market for an adult series of cartoons. Maybe start a thread to suggest the name of the first episode.[/QUOTE]I assume you are referring to GE and RK. Their banter can be rather comical at times.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2450033]You guys should team up and write comic books. There might be a new market for an adult series of cartoons. Maybe start a thread to suggest the name of the first episode.[/QUOTE]Yes, the Adventures of Trainwreck and Reacharound.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2450136]I assume you are referring to GE and RK. Their banter can be rather comical at times.[/QUOTE]What banter ED. There 'banter' is based on years of living the country and is useful for newbies who care to really understand issues etc. Now CM and ED 'banter' is purile, childish, meaningless drivel mostly.
As Beavis said stop being jealous, drive you train in the outback and as Beavis quoted.
'That old guy with the young Filipina has been through more shit than you can even imagine and if you have a problem with it then maybe you should find another hobby. This board has been to help fellow mongers not to be a judgmental platform where a few people decide what is best for everybody. We have all travelled and we have all been laid. Lets get back to that and stop worrying about what someone else is doing.'
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2450217]As Beavis said stop being jealous, drive you train in the outback and as Beavis quoted.[/QUOTE]Am I included in that as well? I know I'm jealous as hell, stuck here in suburbia reading about the few guys imprisoned in paradise and fending off eager maidens like your Barbie girl. 😁.
Very nice tatas indeed.
Take care. G.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2450033]You guys should team up and write comic books. There might be a new market for an adult series of cartoons. Maybe start a thread to suggest the name of the first episode.[/QUOTE]Comic books! These knowledgeable and experienced mongers should just go write policies and law for the Philippines. President Duterte should fire his staff and hire these geniuses as his cr kitchen cabinet.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2450292]Comic books! These knowledgeable and experienced mongers should just go write policies and law for the Philippines. President Duterte should fire his staff and hire these geniuses as his cr kitchen cabinet.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately humor, sarcasm and wit is lost on many mongers. Let's not even try reading between the lines! Even when a person pays a compliment for good photos, another monger takes that as an insult! Hahaha.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2450227]Am I included in that as well? I know I'm jealous as hell, stuck here in suburbia reading about the few guys imprisoned in paradise and fending off eager maidens like your Barbie girl. 😁.
Very nice tatas indeed.
Take care. G.[/QUOTE]No Goffering. I can sympathise but the fact is few girls are willing to go out, those that are allowed get a ECQ pass to allow it and if they do get the pass there are taxis / no jeepneys etc. I know this first hand.
So you can be Cebu near Ayala and Barbie can't visit you. Hence they are trying web cams instead as many are getting desperate for cash.
Yes very nice perky tatas.
I have a round trip ticket for a 2-week trip from the US to the Philippines, arriving in Manila on June 15. Any thoughts on how likely it will be that the 14-day quarantine requirement will be lifted by then?
RG.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2450394]I have a round trip ticket for a 2-week trip from the US to the Philippines, arriving in Manila on June 15. Any thoughts on how likely it will be that the 14-day quarantine requirement will be lifted by then?
RG.[/QUOTE]Some of the posters here have speculated that PH won't be open until 2021. Some are saying earliest will be September, 2020.
I will go on record that no one has any real idea of when because even PH officials don't know when.
I am not aware of any 14 day quarantine requirement in effect now. However there might be one or might not be one or dependant on which country you are coming from or have been in.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2450403]Some of the posters here have speculated that PH won't be open until 2021. Some are saying earliest will be September, 2020.
I will go on record that no one has any real idea of when because even PH officials don't know when.
I am not aware of any 14 day quarantine requirement in effect now. However there might be one or might not be one or dependant on which country you are coming from or have been in.[/QUOTE]No, we do not have a clue but we are fairly comfortable guessing that PH response will be less effective than say, Vietnam.
So I would expect to take longer than most countries.
And if it happens soon you will be risking your life most likely.
[QUOTE=Cons68;2450409]No, we do not have a clue but we are fairly comfortable guessing that PH response will be less effective than say, Vietnam.
So I would expect to take longer than most countries.
And if it happens soon you will be risking your life most likely.[/QUOTE]I'm not concerned about risks of the virus itself. Life always has its risks. But I AM concerned about flying to Manila, then being required to sit around in some quarantine center for 14 days, which is the duration of my planned trip. As of a couple of days ago, it appears that ALL international arrivals are required to be tested and quarantined for at least 14 days, regardless of test result.
[URL]https://www.philippineairlines.com/en/aboutus/newsandevents/advisory-covid19-10may20-57[/URL]
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2450394]I have a round trip ticket for a 2-week trip from the US to the Philippines, arriving in Manila on June 15. Any thoughts on how likely it will be that the 14-day quarantine requirement will be lifted by then?
RG.[/QUOTE]I checked with several airlines. They all said you are more likely to be quarantined for 2 weeks in Philippines. It is not your choice to self quarantine. Strict quarantine means absolutely no contact with anybody. Food will be brought in. After quarantine you are allowed to go wherever you want.
At the moment all incoming to USA are to be quarantined for 2 weeks irrespective of where you went. Sone US airlines are positioning themselves to start international flights as soon as this requirement is lifted because there will be no demand otherwise.
So in your case better to drop your two week vacation and stay home. Even if you get tested and proven negative does not mean anything. It takes roughly 7-10 days to show symptoms and also you could end up as a carrier with no symptoms. No country is going to take a risk on a foreigner infecting their people even if it is already spreading rampant in their community.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2450297]Unfortunately humor, sarcasm and wit is lost on many mongers. Let's not even try reading between the lines! Even when a person pays a compliment for good photos, another monger takes that as an insult! Hahaha.[/QUOTE]My greatest beef recently has been the level of moderation. It seems any contributor with an opinion now has their posts delayed by a few days and then they suddenly appear a few pages back, totally loosing the flow of a conversation.
I'm not interested in a board full of spam and personal attacks but surely [B]ALL [/B] their contributions don't need to be moderated [B]FOREVER[/B].
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2450394]I have a round trip ticket for a 2-week trip from the US to the Philippines, arriving in Manila on June 15. Any thoughts on how likely it will be that the 14-day quarantine requirement will be lifted by then?
RG.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't you be better off going to Thailand?
[QUOTE=Goferring;2450484]Wouldn't you be better off going to Thailand?[/QUOTE]Nope, not an option for me. I guess I'll have to wait.
RG.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2450394]I have a round trip ticket for a 2-week trip from the US to the Philippines, arriving in Manila on June 15. Any thoughts on how likely it will be that the 14-day quarantine requirement will be lifted by then?
RG.[/QUOTE]As I said before some people are dreaming. The ECQ in Manila has been extended to end May I think and the 14 day rule is in place. But why would any country allow anyone from the USA into their country when it clearly has no clue how to contain and manage the virus. I would be very cautious about your ticket, have the flight checked, your quarantine if any checked and then get a refund. Holiday at home so COVID 19 is contained in the USA (I see the treasury Sec has been pushing this idea).
Am sure you can get a refund of the ticket. Have you booked hotels as some I know find it harder to get a refund from them (some have lost their pre paid reservation with no refund).
And can you imagine a local monitoring facility with food brought to you in Manila? Bilibid maybe fun LOL. If you must risk your life OK as it is your life but don't risk other RG and stay away as visitors from the USA should be 'persuaded' from travelling anywhere for 12 months IMHO until there are adults in charge who can follow science not self interest.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2450424]I'm not concerned about risks of the virus itself. Life always has its risks. But I AM concerned about flying to Manila, then being required to sit around in some quarantine center for 14 days, which is the duration of my planned trip. As of a couple of days ago, it appears that ALL international arrivals are required to be tested and quarantined for at least 14 days, regardless of test result.
[URL]https://www.philippineairlines.com/en/aboutus/newsandevents/advisory-covid19-10may20-57[/URL][/QUOTE]Virus situation is still about 200-300 daily w about half in Manila.
They have not resumed any international commercial flights yet so your trip is still anybody's guess.
14 days quarantine is the norm now regardless of test result at the airport for international flights arrivals for most countries.
That puts your 14 day trip almost nil on mongering if flights go ahead. Even if you are able to extend your trip, will ECQ will be lifted in Manila? As it is being extended till end of May as for now. ECQ means no visitors at hotels which is a death blow to mongering.
If I were you, I would just try and get a refund for air tickets and plan another trip when flights and restrictions situation are clear and announced that is if you are still interested then.
And armed w girl contacts as the entertainment outlets are not likely to be resumed or as per before anytime soon.
Not a good time to come mongering in philipines for a couple of months at least.
I m in the philipines for a few months now, and since the ECQ came into effect, was lucky to rent a live in GF, GCQ will be effected in my area in a few days and hopefully more options then.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2450403]Some of the posters here have speculated that PH won't be open until 2021. Some are saying earliest will be September, 2020.
I will go on record that no one has any real idea of when because even PH officials don't know when.
I am not aware of any 14 day quarantine requirement in effect now. However there might be one or might not be one or dependant on which country you are coming from or have been in.[/QUOTE]Why would the Phills have a 14 day quarantine period already for visitors when visitation is not allowed, as per the countries that are far more advanced in the covid 19 fight they have all insisted on 14 day quarantine for visitors and even returning residents, why would the Phills be any different.
Unless you are a ph official yourself how would you know that the ph officials do not have an exit plan already or exit date already in place.
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2450515]Why would the Phills have a 14 day quarantine period already for visitors when visitation is not allowed, as per the countries that are far more advanced in the covid 19 fight they have all insisted on 14 day quarantine for visitors and even returning residents, why would the Phills be any different.
Unless you are a ph official yourself how would you know that the ph officials do not have an exit plan already or exit date already in place.[/QUOTE]I liked this one from Margarita Station. Simply put on the first line LOL.
[URL]https://www.acmargarita.com/mandatory-facility-based-quarantine-for-all-incoming-travelers/[/URL]
This will deter most mongers I am sure more so the 10 day ones. The quarantine is becoming the new norm so we should expect it and plan for a month vacation in the Philippines and maybe more 14 days in isolation (but possibly a 5 star hotel as in some places) when we return.
[QUOTE=Streetlooker;2450366]See its gone already. New money must start to flow again soon. Lets get this full open by Sept. And party.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2450294]Surplus cash! President Duterte is having lots of trouble finding the actual surplus cash. Surplus cash and emergency funds on the books is one thing as they found with Typhoon Yolanda.
When funds are distributed there is quite a shrinkage factor.[/QUOTE]For almost 2 months since lockdowns started here, there was no cash for the locals. Various Brgy were giving small amounts of various food types (more on that in another post). Then out of the blue a few days ago, with little notification, various Brgy were told to report to a single brgy for disbursement of "Amelioration Program" monies, cash. More than a dozen brgy were serviced each night, several nights running. Thousands queued up each night for a p6 k cash-in-hand pickup. Prior to this, I heard locals deny the existence of the program: "Its a fake. They never will give". A Brgy captain tells me that there are other programs running, and more money coming from a different program. A number of Brgy captains were wandering the street at the time with a loudspeaker, saying their people they could ignore the curfew and get in later that night if they were still in line waiting for their money. On of our front desk concierge told me the line was still long at 12:30 am.
Mr Matt Hancock Secretary of State for Health and Social Care in the UK has just announced that travel abroad for UK residents will not be allowed this year at all, expect similar from most 1st world nations.
As many have said pinay pussy remains off limits to most till 2021 if extremely lucky, back to porn hub for non phills residents.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2450549].various Brgy were told to report to a single brgy for disbursement of "Amelioration Program" monies, cash.
Thousands queued up each night for a p6 k cash-in-hand pickup.
On of our front desk concierge told me the line was still long at 12:30 am.[/QUOTE]This is true Westie as was sent a photo yesterday of a lady queuing all day to obtain this. Plus rice, tins of tuna and hot dogs. Issue is as I said somewhere is not all are given if ask. Those with son / daughter as an OFW have been refused, same for those married to a foreigner and living overseas. The assumption is they are rich enough and can afford (not true as many OFWs are unemployed now).
Also I was told the PHP 6 k sometimes was less. I wonder why?
The cases keep going up especially in Manila.
Keep in mind how many americans claim that COVID is a hoax. At least British and Spaniards have an almost as incompetent government but most people realize this is a real issue.
In any case this may be moot as I will not be surprised if this thing hits hard again in October.
Let see.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2450494]As I said before some people are dreaming. The ECQ in Manila has been extended to end May I think and the 14 day rule is in place. But why would any country allow anyone from the USA into their country when it clearly has no clue how to contain and manage the virus. I would be very cautious about your ticket, have the flight checked, your quarantine if any checked and then get a refund. Holiday at home so COVID 19 is contained in the USA (I see the treasury Sec has been pushing this idea).
Am sure you can get a refund of the ticket. Have you booked hotels as some I know find it harder to get a refund from them (some have lost their pre paid reservation with no refund).
And can you imagine a local monitoring facility with food brought to you in Manila? Bilibid maybe fun LOL. If you must risk your life OK as it is your life but don't risk other RG and stay away as visitors from the USA should be 'persuaded' from travelling anywhere for 12 months IMHO until there are adults in charge who can follow science not self interest.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2450515]Unless you are a ph official yourself how would you know that the ph officials do not have an exit plan already or exit date already in place.[/QUOTE]On Tuesday, presidential spokesman Harry Roque Jr. Announced that as of May 15, 37 provinces and 11 cities previously under ECQ or GCQ would be downgraded to low-risk areas, under no quarantine all. Yesterday, after receiving protests and petitions to extend quarantines from governors and mayors, this decision was reversed. Also, Francisco Duque, the Secretary of Health, admitted that he might have signed the IATF Resolution 35 without complete knowledge on the impact of the lifting of quarantine in affected areas. The IATF then walked back the declaration, and announced that said low-risk areas would be under "Modified General Community Quarantine", which is something they just made up, and which they have not issued any guidelines to the LGUs for, but apparently intend to. Later.
Now, I certainly do not know anyone on the IATF, but I do know a fucking shitshow when I see one, and I would be perfectly happy to wager any amount of San Miguel Pilsen that no, they do not, in fact, have either an exit plan or exit date already in place.
[URL]https://thediplomat.com/2020/05/the-philippines-pandemic-response-a-tragedy-of-errors/[/URL]
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2450568]Mr Matt Hancock Secretary of State for Health and Social Care in the UK has just announced that travel abroad for UK residents will not be allowed this year at all, expect similar from most 1st world nations.
As many have said pinay pussy remains off limits to most till 2021 if extremely lucky, back to porn hub for non phils residents.[/QUOTE]Australia chief medical officer also is using the one year time. It's impossible to put a date as no one knows the progress of the virus.
Now, why do you say pinay pussy is off the menu? Today, I'm catching up with a pinay in my hometown. The game remains the same, we all just need to adapt to the new rules.
[QUOTE=Datiao;2450511]Virus situation is still about 200-300 daily w about half in Manila.
They have not resumed any international commercial flights yet so your trip is still anybody's guess.
14 days quarantine is the norm now regardless of test result at the airport for international flights arrivals for most countries.
That puts your 14 day trip almost nil on mongering if flights go ahead. Even if you are able to extend your trip, will ECQ will be lifted in Manila? As it is being extended till end of May as for now. ECQ means no visitors at hotels which is a death blow to mongering.
If I were you, I would just try and get a refund for air tickets and plan another trip when flights and restrictions situation are clear and announced that is if you are still interested then.
And armed w girl contacts as the entertainment outlets are not likely to be resumed or as per before anytime soon.
Not a good time to come mongering in philipines for a couple of months at least.
I m in the philipines for a few months now, and since the ECQ came into effect, was lucky to rent a live in GF, GCQ will be effected in my area in a few days and hopefully more options then.[/QUOTE]I'm still interested in getting into PH as soon as I can. I can handle the 2 weeks quarantine as I can stay on holiday for a month or even longer if I need to. I just need to gather more info on this facility and costs. I'll wait until the end of May to see if the local quarantines will be lifted and if more info emerges.
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2450568]Mr Matt Hancock Secretary of State for Health and Social Care in the UK has just announced that travel abroad for UK residents will not be allowed this year at all, expect similar from most 1st world nations.
As many have said pinay pussy remains off limits to most till 2021 if extremely lucky, back to porn hub for non phills residents.[/QUOTE]Not allowed? He is reported as saying it's 'unlikely' and you cannot believe a word this guy says.
The EU are keen to open up borders for tourism.
Ryan air are planning 1000 flights per day from July 1st.
I find this optimistic but I am hoping for some travel this year. Some places are heavily reliant on tourism, for example it's 60% of Bali's GDP, so they will be keen to open up.
It will be interesting to see how the prices work out for pussy here until the country opens up and supply and demand returns to normal levels. (If it ever will.).
One would think fewer mongers chasing the same pussy supply will result in a price drop. You may also get more pussy on offer as people in normal jobs will be forced to rely on the pussy proceeds of family members.
However since this is the Philippines the logic may be I used to get 2000 a night on 4 nights a week for 8000 a week. Now I am only getting fucked once a week so I need to charge 8000.
I suspect that we will see some hardened pro's used to getting the 8 k a week trying to charge that for one night a week but will also get regular girls turning semi pro and going for 1000 or less.
I am currently chatting to a girl next town over and she will come over as soon as ECQ ends on Saturday. I'll offer 500 plus 500 for travel costs and see if she accepts.
I have dropped a local girl whop can come even during ECQ because she was asking 6000.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2450818]It will be interesting to see how the prices work out for pussy here until the country opens up and supply and demand returns to normal levels. (If it ever will.).
One would think fewer mongers chasing the same pussy supply will result in a price drop. You may also get more pussy on offer as people in normal jobs will be forced to rely on the pussy proceeds of family members.
However since this is the Philippines the logic may be I used to get 2000 a night on 4 nights a week for 8000 a week. Now I am only getting fucked once a week so I need to charge 8000.
I suspect that we will see some hardened pro's used to getting the 8 k a week trying to charge that for one night a week but will also get regular girls turning semi pro and going for 1000 or less.
I am currently chatting to a girl next town over and she will come over as soon as ECQ ends on Saturday. I'll offer 500 plus 500 for travel costs and see if she accepts.
I have dropped a local girl whop can come even during ECQ because she was asking 6000.[/QUOTE]This is no different to a Tinder princess quoting me 15 k during normal times. Those that have the cash to last through hard times can wait for the odd sucker to pass by. However, those that have bills to pay but no reserves will grasp anything.
I'm not in country but, from the messages I'm getting, I'd expect it would not be too hard for a resident to find some fun for a roof over her head and three squares until the hoards return.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Jingo10;2450807]Not allowed? He is reported as saying it's 'unlikely' and you cannot believe a word this guy says.
The EU are keen to open up borders for tourism.
Ryan air are planning 1000 flights per day from July 1st.
I find this optimistic but I am hoping for some travel this year. Some places are heavily reliant on tourism, for example it's 60% of Bali's GDP, so they will be keen to open up.[/QUOTE]Well lets see here, the covid 19 pandemic has cost the world multiple billions of dollars in the few weeks we have known about it and is for sure going to cost multiple billions of dollars more till a cure is found.
Do you honestly think that countries are willing to open up their borders for the small amount of dollars tourism brings in and risk a second pandemic costing further multiple billions of dollars and maybe the collapse of many countries entire economy.
Maybe blue balls is clouding your judgement a touch dear fellow.
Hi KabulGuy, long time no see.
I was thinking along these lines actually. We must have been to the same economics school.
The "reverse elasticity thinking" is not exclusive to PI of course, I have seen it in action in Thailand and in the UAE. A little bit similar to all those "real estate prices only go up" and the only way for them to move out is through inflation, something I am confident the PI will do.
I think the most interesting aspect will be the part-timers, I would expect a large number of girls trying to complement their income and they will not have the same expectations hardcoded. Same for the new wave of pros.
But for the old ones, it will be tough I personally would avoid them as the chances of high-prices and poor service are really high.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2450818]It will be interesting to see how the prices work out for pussy here until the country opens up and supply and demand returns to normal levels. (If it ever will.).
One would think fewer mongers chasing the same pussy supply will result in a price drop. You may also get more pussy on offer as people in normal jobs will be forced to rely on the pussy proceeds of family members.
However since this is the Philippines the logic may be I used to get 2000 a night on 4 nights a week for 8000 a week. Now I am only getting fucked once a week so I need to charge 8000.
I suspect that we will see some hardened pro's used to getting the 8 k a week trying to charge that for one night a week but will also get regular girls turning semi pro and going for 1000 or less.
I am currently chatting to a girl next town over and she will come over as soon as ECQ ends on Saturday. I'll offer 500 plus 500 for travel costs and see if she accepts.
I have dropped a local girl whop can come even during ECQ because she was asking 6000.[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/05/14/dutertes-bodyguard-philippines-please-stop-offering-rewards-killing-president/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Cons68;2450867]
The "reverse elasticity thinking" is not exclusive to PI of course, I have seen it in action in Thailand and in the UAE. A little bit similar to all those "real estate prices only go up" and the only way for them to move out is through inflation, something I am confident the PI will do.
[/QUOTE]You are right in assessing the market in terms of the professionals, part timers and relationship seekers who accept cash along the way.
Professionals. Will adopt a price that makes it worthwhile. If their pussy in unused then it is better to use it to get some income greater than the marginal cost.
Part timers. It may take time for them to reduce the value of their pussy until they start wanting life's little extra luxuries.
Relationship-seekers. Are those girls hoping to find their dream life in an overseas country. They will take whatever is offered.
Do you best guys.
PP.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2450755]I'm still interested in getting into PH as soon as I can. I can handle the 2 weeks quarantine as I can stay on holiday for a month or even longer if I need to. I just need to gather more info on this facility and costs. I'll wait until the end of May to see if the local quarantines will be lifted and if more info emerges.[/QUOTE]Where do you think you will quarantine? In a 5 star hotel or Boracay? And unlike other countries (such as Australia) you will pay for the quarantine.
Why don't some people read the local press more and listen to some of the mongers who live there more, before they let their blue balls do the talking and thinking. And writing on the board LOL.
[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2450900][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/05/14/dutertes-bodyguard-philippines-please-stop-offering-rewards-killing-president/[/URL][/QUOTE]He just wanted to increase his 'likes' - something many want and do stupid moronic things to try and get it. Plenty stupid people on social media who think being an influencer is a 'job' and do crazy things. Some even die for it sadly but they chose to stand on a ridge with a 5 ooo foot drop for that magical Insta photo that would boost their number of followers. Too many examples nowadays.
As for both of these morons, their salaries are small so offering that sum is plainly the sign of a stupidity. If you really want to be noticed by the President and the police then do this but I would keep my head down and try to teach my students to be intelligent.
[QUOTE=Jingo10;2450807]Not allowed? He is reported as saying it's 'unlikely' and you cannot believe a word this guy says.
The EU are keen to open up borders for tourism.
Ryan air are planning 1000 flights per day from July 1st.
I find this optimistic but I am hoping for some travel this year. Some places are heavily reliant on tourism, for example it's 60% of Bali's GDP, so they will be keen to open up.[/QUOTE]Wishful thinking and agree with Napa. Who would want hoards of UK citizens in their country when it is clear it is one of the worst infected countries on the plant to date. Would you fly to Italy? Indonesia? Asia? Really?
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-52646738[/URL]
The BBC reports says OK in the UK but unlikely elsewhere – much depends if other countries allow you in, insist on mandatory quarantine (which if 14 days could ruin the holiday). The airlines need business so by saying they can ramp up flights it is done I think to put pressure on the UK government etc.
Am sure some places desperately need the cash Jingo 10 I desperately need cash so please send me LOL) but would you put cash before lives and further infections that will shut down the country again, maybe for longer than the first time? (in the USA the answer is a yes as the idiot there thinks this is sensible).
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2450856]Do you honestly think that countries are willing to open up their borders for the small amount of dollars tourism brings in and risk a second pandemic costing further multiple billions of dollars and maybe the collapse of many countries entire economy.
Maybe blue balls is clouding your judgement a touch dear fellow.[/QUOTE]Well said Napa – and it is clouding a few people's judgement on the board LOL.
Jingo wherever you are go to a massage place if they are open (as not in many countries) or love yourself as it is the cheapest (and possibly only) option for many nowadays.
Plenty of the unemployed girls here now that will do anything for 1000 pesos. Curfew at 8 so if she is there it's for the evening. I know one cheap ass that is getting girls that normally won't talk to him. They know he is very stingy in the rewards department but if you happen to live near some of the girls that don't have to travel trough checkpoints it is definitely a buyers market. For the future who knows but right now if you have a house / apartment / bungalow / or even a tent you can easily find company.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2451113]Plenty of the unemployed girls here now that will do anything for 1000 pesos. Curfew at 8 so if she is there it's for the evening. I know one cheap ass that is getting girls that normally won't talk to him. They know he is very stingy in the rewards department but if you happen to live near some of the girls that don't have to travel trough checkpoints it is definitely a buyers market. For the future who knows but right now if you have a house / apartment / bungalow / or even a tent you can easily find company.[/QUOTE]Awesome idea. I am going to buy a tent next time I am in Manila and set up in Rizal Park. I will save all that hotel money! Breakfast at McDo. Lunch and dinner by Grab. The lineup of 18 year olds will snake through the park and across Roxas Blvd down to the US Embassy, causing traffic to be even worse than it is!
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2450984]would you put cash before lives and further infections [/QUOTE]That is an irrelevant question. The governments of the world have no choice but to end their economic lockdowns or face civil disobedience and or outright rebellion.
But which countries are actually going to open up their borders and allow foreign nationals to enter without the 14 day quarantine is another matter entirely. So for expats living in the PI, Thailand, ect the end of the lockdowns will mean good times ie lots of quality girls at bargain prices. But for punters like myself it is still too soon. I mean who in their right mind is going to fly into the PI or Thailand for a vacation or poontang if it means quarantine first? No one. So foreigners will have to just wait and see which countries decide to open their doors first. But if you ask me when will things get back to pre-Corona normal? I would tell you not until a vaccine or cure is found and widely distributed and maybe not even then. And get ready for this; there is a real possibility that a 90% to 100% effective vaccine is never found. Welcome to the Post Corona era.
But to get back to your original question; the lockdowns are going to end everywhere because they have to. There is no other choice. So take care, keep to social distancing in public places, wash your hands often, don't touch your face and if you are among the elderly or immune deficient isolate yourself as much as possible. We will get past this.
LA Street Art:
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2450856]Well lets see here, the covid 19 pandemic has cost the world multiple billions of dollars in the few weeks we have known about it and is for sure going to cost multiple billions of dollars more till a cure is found.
Do you honestly think that countries are willing to open up their borders for the small amount of dollars tourism brings in and risk a second pandemic costing further multiple billions of dollars and maybe the collapse of many countries entire economy.
Maybe blue balls is clouding your judgement a touch dear fellow.[/QUOTE]Your math is way off LOL.
Or you misspelled 10's of trillions.
Oh man, it is really sweet to find someone so optimistic. Your trust in rationality is bringing tears to my eyes!
Your analysis would be correct for rational, financial-minded people. And in my experience less than 1 in 4 professional manager in MNC really get things like opportunity cost and pricing on contribution.
So the thing with pros is that for a very long time, in their heads, they will think that they are losing money. If they used to get paid $100 and now they are fucking for $80 because that is the going rate, many of them will consider that you are "stealing" $20 from them. And their service will suffer, buyer beware. This is something I have seen happen (in UAE and Thailand) And his is actually why I broke down my analysis the way I did.
I know you are right from a purely rational perspective but please keep in mind who you are dealing with. People are seldom as rational as we would like to think, and poor uneducated pinays are clearly not a star group!
Once this is over my advise is to stick to semi pros (whom they will see any money as real extra money, 100% gratitude) or girls with no anchoring on old prices.
Leave the seasoned pros to those who do not read this forum!
P.S. Actually, I need to take an exception. Chinese are by far the most pragmatic, business savvy I have seen. You would be totally accurate with them in my experience, but not pinoys, not russians, not thais.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2450959]You are right in assessing the market in terms of the professionals, part timers and relationship seekers who accept cash along the way.
Professionals. Will adopt a price that makes it worthwhile. If their pussy in unused then it is better to use it to get some income greater than the marginal cost.
Part timers. It may take time for them to reduce the value of their pussy until they start wanting life's little extra luxuries.
Relationship-seekers. Are those girls hoping to find their dream life in an overseas country. They will take whatever is offered.
Do you best guys.
PP.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2451155]That is an irrelevant question. The governments of the world have no choice but to end their economic lockdowns or face civil disobedience and or outright rebellion.
But to get back to your original question; the lockdowns are going to end everywhere because they have to. There is no other choice. So take care, keep to social distancing in public places, wash your hands often, don't touch your face and if you are among the elderly or immune deficient isolate yourself as much as possible. We will get past this.
LA Street Art:[/QUOTE]Lockdowns will end as they have partially in Australia for example and guess what. A spike in infections. Yes the economies must keep working but in the end the deaths will rise so what is the acceptable balance. For the USA seems 90,100+k and counting is OK. For NZ this is not acceptable. For the UK they want to avoid being the worst in Europe. Brazil will the next disaster. In the USA many of the protestors are ferals / bogans / red necks who barely understand the reasons why there is a lock down.
But yes it will come and at a cost. Happy to see a rebellion as IMHO the economy will collapse and sadly millions will die as those feral will be in charge LOL. Teach them a lesson in some respects LOL.
As you said no vaccine means we need be careful and some countries will cautiously allow visitors (but some are already looking to ban f those from USA UK and some European countries) or have a 14 day quarantine both in the visiting country and return country. So you spend 4 weeks effectively in quarantine. Where has your shagging holiday disappeared to LOL.
But many people won't wash hands often, will go bars and noisy places where there are more droplets, won't distance themselves and want to see lola / lolo in the nursing home. So behaviours by many won't change despite what many are going through. Is human nature and the only way to learn the new rules maybe is to catch COVID 9 and then you may wish you listened more carefully.
Some information regarding what I am seeing here during lockdown. There has been discussion on the board about what the girls (or their families) have, or are receiving. Lockdown here is approaching 8-9 weeks. My perspective is from a provincial city of several hundred thousand inhabitants, and is nowhere near the 3 big cities. The lockdown situation here allows relatively easy daytime movement (curfew continues). This information is from 4 different barangay. I have friends (and long-time regular girls) in at least 1 compound in 3 of these brgy, and I have a newer girl in the 4th. Also discussing with front desk staff, tryke drivers, etc. Have been asking about what the government is providing in the way of foods and cash, and who is working at this point and in what kind of jobs. Rundown:
Brgy 4: For each family, first delivery 1 kg rice, 2 cans beef loaf, 3 cans sardines, 5 packets noodles. Second delivery was 5 kg rice, 2 cans beef loaf, 3 cans sardines, 5 packets noodles. That last was a few weeks ago, no new delivery and no guestimate on time frame from the brgy. They were pretty unhappy until SAP and other cash, which has now run out.
Brgy 6: For each family, 5 kg rice, delivered 3 times now. No canned meat or fish or noodles. I know the Captain in this Brgy and he confirmed that, saying he can sustain this for some time to come, however its been several weeks since a delivery. SAP monies from a week ago have been spent.
Brgy 27: For each family, first delivery was 2 kg rice, 2 cans sardines, 2 packets noodles. Second delivery 3 kg rice, 4 cans sardines, 6 packets noodles. Third delivery 5 kg rice, 8 cans sardines, 8 packets noodles. No word to the locals as to when the next delivery will be each time, deliveries seem random. SAP has been spent. Interestingly a foreigner showed up one day in this Brgy with bags of rice (2 kg), enough for 1 bag to each family. The Brgy tanod guys insisted on helping to pass it out. Nice, fella.
Brgy 19. For each family, first delivery was 3 kg rice, 2 cans meat and 3 packs noodles. Second delivery was 5 kg rice, 11 cans meat, 5 packs noodles. Waiting another delivery. This Brgy was in the last group to receive SAP, which was quickly spent.
Regarding cash. SAP monies distributed a week ago over several nights (have not talked to any family who did not receive the full P6 k). Locals told me that there are conditional requirements to receive the SAP, such as: Low-income qualification, and no OFW in the family. Another program that provides sporadic money to those families with kids in school (before and during lockdown) is ongoing.
Regarding work and income. Another gent on the board, Napa I think, mentioned his furloughed employees receiving salary. Good guy NS. Can not find anyone here who knows of anyone who is lucky enough to be in that boat. Almost everyone in all 4 of those brgy is out of work, there is no income when not working. Many of them who (previously) went outside the brgy for work are construction guys (no pay while off work). Two girls and one guy in brgy 27 I know are employed working in malls, in kiosks making and selling food for vendors you've seen before; they are not receiving any salary while the malls are closed. Someone also mentioned they grow vegetables, but I don't know of any patch of ground being used for a garden in any of those brgy (they are densely populated places). OTOH, there are plenty of chickens running about, and the occasional pig. Others have turned to working inside the brgy: One lady previously had a biz selling food in her compound for breakfast as students and trabajadoros going to school or work, but that petered out when everyone stopped schooling or lost work and had no money. She shifted gears and started making masks and sells them on the outside to a wholesaler who sells them in a market. She is pleased with the progress.
Malls recently re-opened, partially. Department and clothing stores, and a handful of restaurants for takeout. They have just a handful of employees inside (as few as one employee that is visible; a Starbucks has just 2 employees, one stands outside to take orders, then walks them inside one order at a time and hands it to the second employee, who makes the drink while the first girl goes outside to take another order). And while the mall is open, only a handful of customers are ambling about not buying anything (unlike the interior grocery store which has lines of customers socially spaced). Guessing that's because few folk are working and receiving a sweldo, thus preventing a trip to the mall.
In an unscientific survey, I asked in brgy #4, #6 and #27, the following questions (also tryke drivers): 1) Before the lockdown, of all the people in your brgy employed outside the brgy (malls, stores construction, habal drivers, and other, etc), what percent lost their jobs during the lockdown? Guestimates ran 70% to "All sir". 2) Are any of those newly unemployed getting any sweldo or other benefit? This was met with guffaws and "No. There's no more driving the habal sir, because the Mayor's decree. Who will pay that guy if no customer?" Some habal drivers became fast-food delivery guys. And: "All construction stopped. No sweldo".
Since my highly-unqualified survey, I have recently noticed quite a number of times 2 people on motorcycles, which means the habal biz will be back operating soon here.
On another note, I heard people in every corner of town say something interesting: "Hope they go to Enhanced Quarantine. Then they have to give foods to all. They won't do it because they can not afford it".
On a last note, based on my highly-unscientific survey of the several Brgy, its clear that each Brgy is spending very different amounts of money per family, which leads the locals to suspect that their Brgy office is corrupt. The people in Brgy 27 live across the street from Brgy 29, they easily compare handouts.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2450217]What banter ED. There 'banter' is based on years of living the country and is useful for newbies who care to really understand issues etc. Now CM and ED 'banter' is purile, childish, meaningless drivel mostly.
As Beavis said stop being jealous, drive you train in the outback and as Beavis quoted.
'That old guy with the young Filipina has been through more shit than you can even imagine and if you have a problem with it then maybe you should find another hobby. This board has been to help fellow mongers not to be a judgmental platform where a few people decide what is best for everybody. We have all travelled and we have all been laid. Lets get back to that and stop worrying about what someone else is doing.'[/QUOTE]You just to have accept reality. No one is travelling anywhere for the next 2 years, especially not to Flipsville. Governments in rich countries aren't just going to let their people travel to shit hole countries and risk further destroying their home economies upon the return of the old monger. The closest geriatrics on this board are ever going to get to LBFMs is through firing up their cum stained lap tops and watching reruns of Trike Patrol. To add to the excitement, some mongers who are into S & M might politely ask their moms to tie for them their favourite pink mouth gag ball.
In RWML, those who still have jobs and an income, have plenty of options. No need for travel.
I have noticed Requests for money picking up. Usually more in the form of please help and I will send photos or videos. I did help one girl with a small amount and just said she can pay back in services if I return. If anyone needs some picks or videos I'm happy to give numbers and you can make your own arrangements. I have a couple of girls that send me these whether I want them or not!
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2451591]On a last note, based on my highly-unscientific survey of the several Brgy, its clear that each Brgy is spending very different amounts of money per family, which leads the locals to suspect that their Brgy office is corrupt. The people in Brgy 27 live across the street from Brgy 29, they easily compare handouts.[/QUOTE]Nice FR Westie.
Your last sentence is very true based on my unscientific survey with my friends etc. The OFW is a problem as they say as family has an OFW in their ranks they are rich thus no hand out. But not so as the OFW has no job, huge debts and can't send cash home. This is a cause of frustration for many I know.
As for Brgy officials being corrupt. Nothing new after all (we both know this). All those I spoke with say the same, some were even getting half of the SAP they were supposed to (some have now filed complaints and contacted Manila / President office to complain there is a PHP 30 k reward for each person who can prove corrupt Brgy officials. So far I read 183 cases! Some we getting 25% ! This does not surprise me.
Such is this country where pinoy will dump and s**t on pinoy easily. I know in some cities (Davao) it is better but am sure in the provinces there is a lot more corruption etc.
Have fun in lockdown (but no plum photos LOL).
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2451592]You just to have accept reality. No one is travelling anywhere for the next 2 years, especially not to Flipsville. [/QUOTE]Pop quiz:
If a monger swims from RWML at 2 mph and a bar girl catches a trike from home at 25 mph when will they meet?
Bonus points for calculating the hotel where the deal is consumated.
G.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2451592]You just to have accept reality. No one is travelling anywhere for the next 2 years, especially not to Flipsville. Governments in rich countries aren't just going to let their people travel to shit hole countries and risk further destroying their home economies upon the return of the old monger. The closest geriatrics on this board are ever going to get to LBFMs is through firing up their cum stained lap tops and watching reruns of Trike Patrol. To add to the excitement, some mongers who are into S & M might politely ask their moms to tie for them their favourite pink mouth gag ball.
In RWML, those who still have jobs and an income, have plenty of options. No need for travel.[/QUOTE]Harboring false hope of a swift return to the relentless pursuit of bareback cum-in-pussy with LBFMs will only lead to greater despair for sex tourists. Their hobby is just not that important to governments and mainstream society. In fact, some may see this as an opportunity to stamp out sex tourism where many do-gooder NGOs failed in the past. A simple two-week quarantine will eliminate any possibility of a visit to Flipsville for BBFSCIP for the majority of habitual sex tourists from Australia, Europe, and North America.
Furthermore, the viral pandemic wiped out the hotel and airline infrastructure that made cheap long-haul visits to Flipsville for bargain BBFSCIP possible. The future costs to arrive in Flipsville and consume the services of LBFMs will be cost prohibitive on a per unit basis for most mongers.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2451232]Lockdowns will end as they have partially in Australia for example and guess what. A spike in infections. Yes the economies must keep working but in the end the deaths will rise so what is the acceptable balance. [/QUOTE]Governments realise that it will be impossible to completely eradicate the virus. The best they can hope for is to minimise it to a level the existing health system can cope with.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2451721]Harboring false hope of a swift return to the relentless pursuit of bareback cum-in-pussy with LBFMs will only lead to greater despair for sex tourists. Their hobby is just not that important to governments and mainstream society. In fact, some may see this as an opportunity to stamp out sex tourism where many do-gooder NGOs failed in the past. A simple two-week quarantine will eliminate any possibility of a visit to Flipsville for BBFSCIP for the majority of habitual sex tourists from Australia, Europe, and North America.
Furthermore, the viral pandemic wiped out the hotel and airline infrastructure that made cheap long-haul visits to Flipsville for bargain BBFSCIP possible. The future costs to arrive in Flipsville and consume the services of LBFMs will be cost prohibitive on a per unit basis for most mongers.[/QUOTE]It is not a false hope. For many countries opening the country to allow people not necessarily mongers but businessmen, gamblers, tourists etc. Otherwise economy will collapse. All the countries economies are intertwined. You can count on your fingers countries which can support their economies without outside help. Even a hermit country like North Korea is dependent wholly on China. There is no way they can block Chinese businessmen coming.
For Philippines OFW income, business with China, USA and other countries is very important. Mongering income is negligible as for government. It only helps girls, restaurants, hotels in Angeles city. It is mostly cash economy and hardly any tax is paid to government.
Even with the uncertainties of the risk all are gearing up to get back to pre covid era. It will be done before economy is wrecked beyond repair irrespective of the human cost. In spite of all the relaxation and flights it is anybody's guess if people take the risk and do all the things like before.
Yes, it is true BBFSCIP is exclusively available in Philippines without much effort. Very few other countries it is possible these days. Even mongers are likely to stay away for a while.
My view for some time now has been that a lot of people are catching Covid at least here in the big cities such as Cebu but that the vast majority of cases are asymptomatic. Cebu City Mayor essentially confirmed that today saying that they are finding 95% asymptomatic and a true Case Fatality rate of around 0. 1% in Cebu. The major reason is likely to be the very low number of elderly here 5% over 65 CF 16% US, 18% in UK and 23% in Italy. If you look at the 75 yr+ age group where the casualty rates start to get quite high the disparity is even greater.
IMHO Vitamin the deficiency is also an important factor in this disease which is what has been found in Indonesia, which seems to be the only country that has bothered to take the Vit the data. Of course back in Europe and the US people have been scratching their heads as to why so many of those with dark skins are dieing and resolutely ignoring the Vit the deficiency factor (because dark skins are slow at absorbing / metabolizing Vit the as they are optimised fro sunnier climes.
If the Cebu data is verified. And they are talking about completing a 50 k person test in the next few days, it will put tremendous pressure to lift the lock downs.
Does anyone know how to use transferwise?
Usa to PI.
I don't have a PI bank acct, do I need one.
I paid for a acr card in 2019 but they never had it when I went to immigration to pick it up.
Any suggestions?
Many thanks.
[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2452206]Does anyone know how to use transferwise?
Usa to PI.
I don't have a PI bank acct, do I need one.
I paid for a acr card in 2019 but they never had it when I went to immigration to pick it up.
Any suggestions?
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]Don't know from usa but from France I use western Union, no need to have a bank there, they get the money based on a code you give to the recipient, and your real name also.
[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2452206]Does anyone know how to use transferwise?
Usa to PI.
I don't have a PI bank acct, do I need one.
I paid for a acr card in 2019 but they never had it when I went to immigration to pick it up.
Any suggestions?
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]Transferwise is very efficient and has great rates but you do need a bank account to transfer from and to. You can only send from an account in the name that of the TW account holder but the recipient can be anyone in pretty much any currency.
They do offer a debit card with good rates for purchases. Cash ATM withdrawals are very limited, $300 a month from memory.
To do a transfer just down load the app, set the ammount and currency, and key in the destination recipient and account.
Transfers from civilisation to SEA are typicially 2 or 3 days.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2445801]Sheeesh. If you dislike Messrs Reacharound's and Trainwreck's creative masterpieces so much, why do you so effortlessly keep falling into their trap? Every single time! Sheeesh. LOL.
Sarcasm, acerbic wit and humor is lost on many mongers. LOL.[/QUOTE]The man is obviously an avid fan of Messrs Reacharound and Trainwreck. He never misses an edition of their creative masterpieces.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2452250]Transferwise is very efficient and has great rates but you do need a bank account to transfer from and to. You can only send from an account in the name that of the TW account holder but the recipient can be anyone in pretty much any currency.
They do offer a debit card with good rates for purchases. Cash ATM withdrawals are very limited, $300 a month from memory.
To do a transfer just down load the app, set the ammount and currency, and key in the destination recipient and account.
Transfers from civilisation to SEA are typicially 2 or 3 days.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Vote +1 for TransferWise.
The ATM fees are higher than some cards but the exchange rate and convenience is so good.
If anyone wants a sign-up bonus of a free transfer, I can send a link.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2452250]Transferwise is very efficient and has great rates but you do need a bank account to transfer from and to. You can only send from an account in the name that of the TW account holder but the recipient can be anyone in pretty much any currency.
They do offer a debit card with good rates for purchases. Cash ATM withdrawals are very limited, $300 a month from memory.
To do a transfer just down load the app, set the ammount and currency, and key in the destination recipient and account.
Transfers from civilisation to SEA are typicially 2 or 3 days.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]But western Union is not working from US?
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2452388]But western Union is not working from US?[/QUOTE]I don't know. I've never used Western Union.
Perhaps others can answer.
The benefit of most of the remittance companies is that the recipient doesn't need a bank account to access the money. But they charge accordingly.
G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2452479]I don't know. I've never used Western Union.
Perhaps others can answer.
The benefit of most of the remittance companies is that the recipient doesn't need a bank account to access the money. But they charge accordingly.
G.[/QUOTE]Western Union can ask a lot of questions about the sender being a US company that can be seen as intrusive (eg place of work, pay slips, passport etc).
Other similar online remittance web sites include Worldremit which is less stringent and is similar Transferwise.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2452479]I don't know. I've never used Western Union.
Perhaps others can answer.
The benefit of most of the remittance companies is that the recipient doesn't need a bank account to access the money. But they charge accordingly.
G.[/QUOTE]Thanks, yes with WU you have a xfer cost but then they can get the money instantly in any WU office or desk, only need for receiver is card, transaction number and name of sender.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2452382]Vote +1 for TransferWise.
The ATM fees are higher than some cards but the exchange rate and convenience is so good.
If anyone wants a sign-up bonus of a free transfer, I can send a link.[/QUOTE]+2 for TransferWise. I use it on my phone all the time to transfer money from my USA bank account to my Thailand bank account. At first I was not pleased with the TransferWise results because I need to make sure the transfer shows up as a "Foreign Transfer" on my Thai bank account statement/pass book for the purpose of meeting the 65,000 baht per month income requirement to maintain a retirement visa. The money must provably come from outside of Thailand. But my first couple of transfers with them only showed up on my statetment/pass book as a "bank transfer." Not good enough.
Then I played with the options and discovered if I use the "Bank Debit (ACH)" option to make the transfer (sometimes referred to as "Direct Debit (ACH)" option on the mobile app I think) and choose to have it sent in USD to be converted into THB here on arrival, it did show up as a "FTT" (Foreign Transfer) on my Thai bank statement/pass book.
A $1,000 USD transfer costs about $15 USD, which they take out of the money being transferred, not from your originating bank account. And even if I don't initiate a transfer on the app with my smartphone until as late as 11:30PM, the money will show up in my Thai bank account around 2:05PM on the very next business day.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2452512]Thanks, yes with WU you have a xfer cost but then they can get the money instantly in any WU office or desk, only need for receiver is card, transaction number and name of sender.[/QUOTE]The money made in these transactions is usually in the rate spread and not so much the fees. Always compare the rates. In some place WU is good others TW is better in terms of dollars received vs dollars paid.
Since Olongapo went to GCQ a lot of things seem to be getting closer to returning to normal. The virus hasn't gone away but at some point the powers that be are going to have to decide to either open the country back up and let the virus run it's course or watch people starve and deal with the chaos that goes along with it. The Philippine Government cannot afford to provide enough resources to sustain the people for a long time. They are near the end now and there are not enough humanitarian groups to pick up the slack. It's anyone's guess but from what I am seeing I predict that everything is going to be open much sooner than expected. Again these are opinions only and I have nothing to back it up other than my daily observations. I guess we will see but many local businesses have already said they will not reopen so eventually a big decision is going to have to be made.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2452799]
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The Philippine Government cannot afford to provide enough resources to sustain the people for a long time. They are near the end now and there are not enough humanitarian groups to pick up the slack. It's anyone's guess but from what I am seeing I predict that everything is going to be open much sooner than expected.
...[/QUOTE]I am thinking it will be a gradual opening, we will still see lots of things that will be closed, especially the high risk things like sports events, wide open inter island and international travel, bars and other similar venues will have social distancing restrictions maintained.
It will not stop it but might slow it down enough to flatten the curve so that they can control the speed at which it spreads while at the same time generating some income and production to keep the people going.
I fear a complete social breakdown more than I fear the virus. At least with the virus I can isolate myself as much as possible. With social breakdown I cannot stop myself from being the target of the crowd should they decide to see how much cash the white guy has.
I'm an occasional contributor, but wanted to give my advice on sending money to RP. I am currently just outside the Capital region under MCQ.
Western Union: It's easy for a friend to pick up money; however, I think the exchange rates at WU are very poor. If you add on the service fee, it can be quite a chunk. One option is that you can send the money in USD. Your friend can pick it up and then exchange at a competitive money changer. I have used a large WU office in Makati where they can do this. Your friend should ask before the money is sent whether that is OK.
Worldremit: This is what I currently do directly from my computer. The exchange rates are much better than WU. But your friend needs a bank account. If your friend is a regular friend or more, then you are doing them a favor by suggesting they open a bank account.
The situation: It turns out that RP has the longest lock down of any country worldwide. But if you look at the numbers (worldometer), RP has not been hit very hard. Yesterday there were four deaths in a country of 100,000,000. Compare that to North America or Europe. Total deaths have been about 850 --maybe some undercount, because technology is not well developed here. Every year, 70,000 people here die from pneumonia. Make your own conclusions. Sadly, I think the lock down will be very devastating for many Filipinos. Think of the street sweepers, taxi drivers, waitresses, hotel room cleaners etc who help make your visit so enjoyable.
Reopening: Given the gov't attitude on lockdown, I don't think we will see bars and clubs opening anytime soon. I could be wrong. I expect many will go out of business.
Only positive when the strict lockdown comes on June 1 (we hope) is that hotels and domestic flights appear to be rock bottom. So I'm here.
OK, hope this is helpful.
I agree but I walk every afternoon (Olongapo on GCQ now) and am seeing more and more people getting back to normal. The road crews have gone back to work trying to get a jump on the rainy season I assume. Most people still wearing masks but many aren't. Social distancing is practically out the window. Cars and scooters moving 24 hours again though not near as many. Alcohol sales have returned so a few late night parties are resuming. The cage is open and the dogs are coming out. Not like anyone is going to be successful by telling them to go back inside. This is going to be interesting for the next few weeks.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2452801]I am thinking it will be a gradual opening, we will still see lots of things that will be closed, especially the high risk things like sports events, wide open inter island and international travel, bars and other similar venues will have social distancing restrictions maintained.
It will not stop it but might slow it down enough to flatten the curve so that they can control the speed at which it spreads while at the same time generating some income and production to keep the people going.
I fear a complete social breakdown more than I fear the virus. At least with the virus I can isolate myself as much as possible. With social breakdown I cannot stop myself from being the target of the crowd should they decide to see how much cash the white guy has.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BigFun;2452828]I'm an occasional contributor, but wanted to give my advice on sending money to RP. I am currently just outside the Capital region under MCQ.
Worldremit: This is what I currently do directly from my computer. The exchange rates are much better than WU. But your friend needs a bank account. If your friend is a regular friend or more, then you are doing them a favor by suggesting they open a bank account..[/QUOTE]You have the option on WorldRemit to get cash pick up also Just check the drop down box as the first option it gives is bank but click on that and you 3 more options so the cuties can get via Cebuana, M Huiller and other instant cash places. They need a pass to get it if still a strict quarantine.
Not sure if this can be seen on the attached but if you look closely you see 4 options Big Fun.
[QUOTE=BigFun;2452828]
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Worldremit: This is what I currently do directly from my computer. The exchange rates are much better than WU. But your friend needs a bank account. If your friend is a regular friend or more, then you are doing them a favor by suggesting they open a bank account.
The situation: It turns out that RP has the longest lock down of any country worldwide. But if you look at the numbers (worldometer), RP has not been hit very hard.
......[/QUOTE]I have used world remit in the past and it allows cash pickup at metrobank, LBC Pawlan Pawnshop etc.
I just signed up for Gcash, I linked my peso account and was able to send the Blow Job Queen some cash for her birthday which is today. No fees to send vs about 10% when I use world remit (part is the cash advance fee my Cdn credit card charges for using World remit services.) No issues with conversion as when I convert my USD to peso at the bank I get a very good rate.
While the stats look really good for here, we all know just how bad they are at keeping track of anything here especially something that may make them look bad. If they were that good I think that the restrictions would have relaxed more than they have, lots of people in different places still going about business as normal and lockdown enforcement has been pretty lax to say the least in many places. I am on a general Philippine discussion board and some places are reporting very severe enforcement of lock down, others almost zero enforcement.
In other words, about what you would expect for the Philippines.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2452951]I have used world remit in the past and it allows cash pickup at metrobank, LBC Pawlan Pawnshop etc.
I just signed up for Gcash, I linked my peso account and was able to send the Blow Job Queen some cash for her birthday which is today. No fees to send vs about 10% when I use world remit (part is the cash advance fee my Cdn credit card charges for using World remit services.) No issues with conversion as when I convert my USD to peso at the bank I get a very good rate.[/QUOTE]I have used World Remit (the 'other' WR), WU, and other online sending. From my end, I use my bank's checking account for sending (ATM, not credit card, so I don't get hit with a cash-advance fee). From the girl's end, I send cash pickup only (I choose from the dropdown list: BDO, Cebuana, LBC, M Lhuillier, etc). The vast majority of my sends are quickly approved online (within a minute) and a control number is given, which I pass to the girl for pickup. However, as this is not a credit card transaction, on occasion my home bank holds up the process for several hours (not sure the reason why). I think the usual cost to me is about $3 USD. There is a free option for sending, if you don't mind several days delay in when your girl can pick up the money.
Contact tracers are learning a new trade and governments across the globe are hiring teams of contact tracers. Our phones have anonymous or not so anonymous Bluetooth tracking data. They are using CCTV and extra ordinary means to track people.
What implications does this have on the mongering world? As we do, do something that is in a gray area. After this virus subsides who is to say that they will not keep on this team of contact tracers with their new found skills to keep tabs of persons of interest or create new types of extortion scams.
What would you do if confronted with a history of your bar fines this is also dereliction of the terms of most people passports. There is a line on the US passport agreement that prohibits sex tourism. What is your take on this NEW profession of contract tracers and what impact do you think it will have on this community none at all or will we have to start carrying our cellphones ins Faraday bags / blackout and wear masks and other extraordinary means to subvert these contract tracing teams? Are you taking any extra precautions due to the governments new invasions of privacy? We won't really know to What extent they will abuse their new found powers. I do feel like this has some far reaching implications that are as of yet unknown.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2453794]Contact tracers are learning a new trade and governments across the globe are hiring teams of contact tracers. Our phones have anonymous or not so anonymous Bluetooth tracking data. They are using CCTV and extra ordinary means to track people.
.......[/QUOTE]One thing we learn from history, other than we don't learn from history, is that when a government uses a crisis to increase surveillance of its people, is that it never gives up this power once the threat subsides.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2453812]One thing we learn from history, other than we don't learn from history, is that when a government uses a crisis to increase surveillance of its people, is that it never gives up this power once the threat subsides.[/QUOTE]Counterexample: Habeas Corpus suspended during American Civil War, temporarily.
One thing we do learn from history is that absolute statements, such as "never", do not stand up to examination.
In the news:
[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-ph/money/topstories/pal-to-resume-select-flights-beginning-june-1/ar-BB14MKJE?li=BBr8Mkn&ocid=wispr[/URL]
"Flag carrier Philippine Airlines (PAL) is resuming operations of scheduled flights on selected international and domestic routes starting June 1.
In an advisory, PAL said it will operate limited international services on routes to the USA, Canada, Guam, Vietnam, mainland China, Malaysia, Indonesia, Hong Kong, Taipei, Singapore, Japan, the UAE, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia. ".
[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-ph/money/topstories/quarantines-relaxed-nationwide-on-june-1/ar-BB14LnAq?li=BBr8Mkn&ocid=wispr[/URL]
"THE country will be transitioning into more relaxed lockdowns starting June 1, with fewer restrictions on people's movement and more outdoor activities and physical reporting to work allowed.
Most areas in the Philippines will be placed under a modified general community quarantine (MGCQ) the least strict lockdown level the starting Monday, while Metro Manila, Davao City, Region 2 (Cagayan Valley), Region 3 (Central Luzon), Region 4-A (Calabarzon consisting of Cavite, Laguna, Batangas, Rizal, and Quezon), Pangasinan, and Albay will be placed under general community quarantine (GCQ). ".
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2453794]Contact tracers are learning a new trade and governments across the globe are hiring teams of contact tracers. Our phones have anonymous or not so anonymous Bluetooth tracking data. They are using CCTV and extra ordinary means to track people.[/QUOTE]MM, do you have a link to this tracing?
These are the GCQ guidelines.
Note the curfew data.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2454995]MM, do you have a link to this tracing?[/QUOTE]They have not yet applied this to anything but COVID but after they are done with COVID these people will have learned a new terrifying skill. Some states in America have passed laws that CCTV and facial recognition cannot be used by law enforcement but as far as I know the Philippines hasn't even considered this law. I admit this is all in beta stages of development but when this system does get up and running and there is no real threat like COVID-19 and when costs for the implementation of this plummet. What do you think they are going to do with this system?
[URL]https://www.aclu.org/blog/privacy-technology/surveillance-technologies/california-just-blocked-police-body-cam-use-face[/URL]
[URL]https://www.cnn.ph/news/2020/5/12/mass-hiring-of-displaced-workers-contact-tracers-.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/04/challenge-proximity-apps-covid-19-contact-tracing[/URL]
[URL]https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/seouls-radical-experiment-in-digital-contact-tracing[/URL]
[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/27/coronavirus-is-expanding-surveillance-state-how-will-this-play-out/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.biometricupdate.com/202001/uks-cctv-commissioner-pleads-for-ai-biometric-ethical-legal-guidance[/URL]
[URL]https://www.biometricupdate.com/202005/u-s-army-leverages-biometrics-and-contact-tracing-to-contain-covid-19-among-personnel[/URL]
Lurkers, I guess watching the US TV show "Almost Paradise" set in Mactan, Cebu PI is bringing up visions of wanderlust. I get that some of the setting of the show is fictional (there is no US Navy Base in Cebu) but wanted to know if that hotel they are shooting at is any good for lurking. I've notice some cuties in the background and I suspect those are some of the more high end types or general public but wanted to know if a trip to Mactan is going to be worth it once the PI opens up.
[QUOTE=Drbombay;2455461]Lurkers, I guess watching the US TV show "Almost Paradise" set in Mactan, Cebu PI is bringing up visions of wanderlust. I get that some of the setting of the show is fictional (there is no US Navy Base in Cebu) but wanted to know if that hotel they are shooting at is any good for lurking. I've notice some cuties in the background and I suspect those are some of the more high end types or general public but wanted to know if a trip to Mactan is going to be worth it once the PI opens up.[/QUOTE]I was there for two nights in early March. The hotels were empty because of Covid, but I got the impression that the place is pretty much 100% Korean / Japanese / Chinese. I wouldn't go there for mongering.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2455565]I was there for two nights in early March. The hotels were empty because of Covid, but I got the impression that the place is pretty much 100% Korean / Japanese / Chinese. I wouldn't go there for mongering.[/QUOTE]Thanks. That combination really doesn't sound that bad. I've run across a few Japanese women on vacation and managed to connect. It's more of the talking game than the straight up pay for play. But the problem with that is they tend to run in packs and will not leave the group though you can often times get one to break off or there may be one there by themselves.
[QUOTE=Drbombay;2455572]Thanks. That combination really doesn't sound that bad. I've run across a few Japanese women on vacation and managed to connect. It's more of the talking game than the straight up pay for play. But the problem with that is they tend to run in packs and will not leave the group though you can often times get one to break off or there may be one there by themselves.[/QUOTE]Good luck. I realized only after I got there, that I'd been to Mactan Airbase previously in 1972. The island experience was different then!
[QUOTE=Drbombay;2455461]Lurkers, I guess watching the US TV show "Almost Paradise" set in Mactan, Cebu PI is bringing up visions of wanderlust. I get that some of the setting of the show is fictional (there is no US Navy Base in Cebu) but wanted to know if that hotel they are shooting at is any good for lurking. I've notice some cuties in the background and I suspect those are some of the more high end types or general public but wanted to know if a trip to Mactan is going to be worth it once the PI opens up.[/QUOTE]Those hotties in the background are paid extras.
After only watching the trailer I cannot see any correlation between the Philippines I have visited and enjoyed and that show.
[QUOTE=Drbombay;2455461]Lurkers, I guess watching the US TV show "Almost Paradise" set in Mactan, Cebu PI is bringing up visions of wanderlust. I get that some of the setting of the show is fictional (there is no US Navy Base in Cebu) but wanted to know if that hotel they are shooting at is any good for lurking. I've notice some cuties in the background and I suspect those are some of the more high end types or general public but wanted to know if a trip to Mactan is going to be worth it once the PI opens up.[/QUOTE]The tattooed LBFM co-star of that show claims to be the niece of the Sultan of Brunei. Her father, Prince Jafri is quite a monger whose main hobby is BBFSCIP with random hot models. She might have been the result of one of those encounters.
We are not sure if your approach is going to be picking up tourists from Japan / China / Korea staying at the high end resorts or whether you will be using the monger method of dialing in for home delivery from the local talent pool. Mactan is quite some distance away from Cebu City and many LBFMs will flake out.
I would think that the former will be impossible unless you look like Don Draper or Idris Elba.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2455687]We are not sure if your approach is going to be picking up tourists from Japan / China / Korea staying at the high end resorts or whether you will be using the monger method of dialing in for home delivery from the local talent pool. Mactan is quite some distance away from Cebu City and many LBFMs will flake out.
I would think that the former will be impossible unless you look like Don Draper or Idris Elba.[/QUOTE]My movie star looks days are long gone. But what I have learned from living in places like Hawaii and Guam where these types or tourist frequent, many of them come there looking for excitement of their own. 80% of the time they are probably married but hubby has no interest and they go their with girlfriends, with the same intentions as us lurkers have. I'll admit it can be difficult, and sometimes it helps if you have a wingman who is willing to TOFTT but it can happen.
But as you say since Mactan is far out there will always be some locals, just will take a little time to set it up. Sometimes it's just as thrilling going on the "hunt" for the elusive "snipe" than just bagging a local bar girl, but then that is often time just as fulfilling.
Thanks for the info, don't see any trips in my plans in the near future but wanted to know what the scene was to help me decide if I want to go there.
[QUOTE=Drbombay;2455790]But as you say since Mactan is far out there will always be some locals, just will take a little time to set it up.[/QUOTE]Insist on reinventing the wheel ey? The word of many that have been there 100's of times just is not good enough.
[QUOTE=Drbombay;2455790]Sometimes it's just as thrilling going on the "hunt" for the elusive "snipe" than just bagging a local bar girl, but then that is often time just as fulfilling.[/QUOTE]You could just as well do that at home. No need in traveling to the other side of the planet to purposely disapppoint yourself.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2455612]Those hotties in the background are paid extras.
After only watching the trailer I cannot see any correlation between the Philippines I have visited and enjoyed and that show.[/QUOTE]DrB can save himself a trip as all the extras will have just come out of the big city clubs. Just go straight to the source or find them on Tinder etc.
If he specifically wants girls local to that area there is no way I would make the trip on the off chance that she / they will be there to meet at the allotted time and place. Bring the mountain to Mohammed and bus the girls in. They will be happy to do this for the right incentive (shopping, cash or you're an appealing guy). Also, there are plenty of options 30 minutes away should Plan A fall through. Then there is no wasted days waiting for noshows.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2455805]Insist on reinventing the wheel ey? The word of many that have been there 100's of times just is not good enough.
You could just as well do that at home. No need in traveling to the other side of the planet to purposely disapppoint yourself.[/QUOTE]Some never believe the wisdom of elders Mr E. Some just ask questions and when they see the reply and it does not fit their ideal fantasy they ask again. Is just one handed typists in moms basement.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2455871]. Also, there are plenty of options 30 minutes away should Plan A fall through. Then there is no wasted days waiting for noshows.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I think we should be more clear. IMO there is no monger action in Mactan resorts area unless you are doing BYO.
Why base yourself miles from facilities?
Why would I take a girl to a Mactan resort and be stuck miles from any facility other than the hotel?
So much better to be within walking distance of Ayala Mall, within wechat and tinder distance and hundreds of restaurants.
Cannot wait to be there again.
PP.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2456123]I think we should be more clear. IMO there is no monger action in Mactan resorts area unless you are doing BYO.
Why base yourself miles from facilities?
Why would I take a girl to a Mactan resort and be stuck miles from any facility other than the hotel?
So much better to be within walking distance of Ayala Mall, within wechat and tinder distance and hundreds of restaurants.
Cannot wait to be there again.
PP.[/QUOTE]Just for clarity, I meant that if the OP was in Ayala or Cebu City generally and the girl didn't make the bus from Mactan then finding another is a simple and quick project. Much easier than if he was out of town.
G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2456135]Just for clarity, I meant that if the OP was in Ayala or Cebu City generally and the girl didn't make the bus from Mactan then finding another is a simple and quick project. Much easier than if he was out of town.
G.[/QUOTE]Yep, I was mentally agreeing with you, although my post may have been contrasting to you. I meant it to be supplemental info.
Anyone thinking of having a mongering holiday, landing at Mactan International airport and then heading to spend their day and nights at a Mactan resort (I think Shangri-la is featured location) would be disappointed.
PP.
[QUOTE=Drbombay;2455461]Lurkers, I guess watching the US TV show "Almost Paradise" set in Mactan, Cebu PI is bringing up visions of wanderlust. I get that some of the setting of the show is fictional (there is no US Navy Base in Cebu) but wanted to know if that hotel they are shooting at is any good for lurking. I've notice some cuties in the background and I suspect those are some of the more high end types or general public but wanted to know if a trip to Mactan is going to be worth it once the PI opens up.[/QUOTE]There are options at Mactan resorts. Best bet would be chat with girl working there and she will introduce her friends. I have befriended many in Lapu Lapu area and they have stayed with me. Usually they meet you at the airport and both of you go to the resort. Those resorts are not the kind you find in Mexico and other islands which are all night drinking and partying. At Mactan resorts it is very laid back in the evening and at night. In fact it is boring if you are thinking about partying. Just stay in bed and fuck.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2456152]There are options at Mactan resorts. Best bet would be chat with girl working there and she will introduce her friends. I have befriended many in Lapu Lapu area and they have stayed with me. Usually they meet you at the airport and both of you go to the resort. [/QUOTE]True, if he must stay in Mactan, that's an option or there are a tonne of lapu2 girls online. What can or cannot be made of them is up to him. 😁.
G.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2456150]Anyone thinking of having a mongering holiday, landing at Mactan International airport and then heading to spend their day and nights at a Mactan resort (I think Shangri-la is featured location) would be disappointed.
PP.[/QUOTE]Luckily, I stayed at the Shang (alone) on someone else's dime. It was a very nice place for a few days. However, I do remember it being very expensive. Keeping a girl fed and entertained inhouse would be eye watering and easily fund multiple girls elsewhere.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2456163]True, if he must stay in Mactan, that's an option or there are a tonne of lapu2 girls online. What can or cannot be made of them is up to him. 😁.
G.[/QUOTE]There used to be a pretty good place on Lapu Lapu called Mermaid Bikini Bar near the Marcelo Fernan Bridge where you could go and pick up good looking girls or has that place closed down? It has been a long time since I was in Cebu.
[QUOTE=Drbombay;2455461]Lurkers, I guess watching the US TV show "Almost Paradise" set in Mactan, Cebu PI is bringing up visions of wanderlust. I get that some of the setting of the show is fictional (there is no US Navy Base in Cebu) but wanted to know if that hotel they are shooting at is any good for lurking. I've notice some cuties in the background and I suspect those are some of the more high end types or general public but wanted to know if a trip to Mactan is going to be worth it once the PI opens up.[/QUOTE]This sounds like people from poor countries watching Bay Watch on pirated DVDs and then thinking all Californians look like Pamela Anderson.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2456164]Luckily, I stayed at the Shang (alone) on someone else's dime. It was a very nice place for a few days. However, I do remember it being very expensive. Keeping a girl fed and entertained inhouse would be eye watering and easily fund multiple girls elsewhere.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]On my very first afternoon in Philippines my girl suggested we go there for afternoon lunch buffet. Yes it was a nice afternoon but expensive afternoon and I learned a lot.
While we mostly suffer from blue balls having been in quarantine for 2 months and can't travel to the Phils, I am noticing a very surprising and pleasant thing where I live. The dating sites / apps like Tinder and Bumble, etc have never been hotter. Getting more likes and women reaching out TO ME than I ever have in my life. The women are no doubt partner, friend and sex starved just like us.
This is a very good sign for us mongers, at least the local talent pool is opening up like never before.
[QUOTE=Free2;2456427]
This is a very good sign for us mongers, at least the local talent pool is opening up like never before.[/QUOTE]
No matter how desperate I get I will never go back to that horrid emasculating entitled pit if despair. I would rater bust a hole in my wall and install a pocket pussy or stick one in the tail pipe of my car before I delve into the local market. UNLESS they are imports from overseas stuck here and now unemployed that I will take. American born women have been deleted from my life for decades and will remain so. Rather than that as a sign of local talent reving up I see it as a revival of hotties in phils having to take to the bars and streets like they did 10 years ago hungry as fuck. Simps out of work here in the states can't send their simp donations any more so they will be on the hunt for a new ATM which means we will have a much nicer pool to choose from when international travel opens back up. For the next 1-2 years any dedicated mongers willing to risk a cold / flu will have their pick of the litter. I think most of these fair weather mongers we have seen in the past few years will dry up and stay home leaving only more shrewd and seasoned mongers. Which means woman will not have any easy pickings and they will have to start to offer better service and more value to attract that kind of monger since the simps will all be too scared to leave the house. I'm sure we will also see an uptick in hot webcam girls in phils as well, rather than the lola's we have currently running these webcam sites.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2456520]No matter how desperate I get I will never go back to that horrid emasculating entitled pit if despair.[/QUOTE]I'll take that as a maybe. . . 😁.
I'm also a convert but I must say that some of the young white chicks I've bumped into in the tourist ghettos and beaches around Asia have been absolutely gorgeous. Of course, the furthest I ever got was a look of disdain or pity. 😥.
[QUOTE=Free2;2456427]
This is a very good sign for us mongers, at least the local talent pool is opening up like never before.[/QUOTE]My 'local' talent pool consists of foreign talent that is in my country.
Korean, Chinese, Taiwanese, Filipina, Italian, Romanian. I have not banged an Aussie girl for 12+ months.
PP.
I was able to get a last-minute seat on a special flight into Manila for OFWs at 0040 h on June 11.
Flight was exclusively for OFWs. Non-OFWs with PH passports or guys like me with a 13 A permanent visa were allowed on once there was space available.
71 pax on the flight. I was the only non-OFW.
Arrived at 0400 h. Very efficient marshalling etc carried out by the PH Coast Guard.
Lots of forms to fill out.
I needed to nominate a hotel from a list in which I would be isolated until my test results were finalised.
My swab test was eventually carried out. Smooth and efficient. Passed through Immig (I was the only one there) and escorted to my airport taxi and sent to my chosen hotel.
Hotel was barricaded against entry by anyone other than staff and those with quarantine bookings.
All smooth. I was instructed not to leave my room and that food would be left outside the door at 0730,1200 and 1800 h.
My test results came back within 46 hours.
I was free to go home immediately.
Now confined in my own condo and not permitted outside because I am over 60. The condo security have reminded me of this.
It's all remarkably efficient.
There is a large backlog of OFWs waiting to return home. The PH airport facility can only accommodate restricted numbers of incoming flights which is why I had 6 commercial bookings cancelled over the 63 days I was waiting to return.
If you don't have a 13 A visa and are expecting things to ease up soon then don't hold your breath. Cannot see tourist visas being issued for the PH for a long time yet because cases of Covid are still increasing in various parts of Manila and elsewhere.
I am not sure why anyone would be desperate to come here as the virus is still all over and I sure as hell don't want to get it. A family friend from Makati (48 yo, non-smoker, fit and healthy), got it a month ago and died 3 weeks later. His wife said he died in agony from lung failure. It can hit anyone.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2458609]I was able to get a last-minute seat on a special flight into Manila for OFWs at 0040 h on June 11.[/QUOTE]Great report RK! I don't know what makes people in these various threads think they are going to quarantine in these countries when they arrive and be able to have someone come visit them. That would totally defeat the purpose of the quarantine.
Was in Rizal outside of NCR, but came to Makati due to extreme boredom. Makati gives a different flavor of boredom. LOL. Can at least get a better selection of food here. Oh also, my part of Rizal had a liquor ban.
The rules are that you are not supposed to travel between various regions except for legitimate business reasons, but with all the traffic etc, that is not being enforced. A month ago there were roadblocks, but now essentially nothing. Even with the roadblocks / checkpoints, the Filipinos were hyper vigilant the first day after a speech from Dutuerte with guns and gates, second day kind of waved people through as they had a look, third day eating lunch watching the cars, forth day texting and web surfing heads down, forth day maybe no one at the checkpoint, or sleeping. You could count on it. The pattern repeated after each presidential announcement.
Hotels have various rules on guests. I am at City Garden (not Grand) and the easiest way to stay to be a long term guest. Minimum requirement is you stay a week. Other hotels had more stringent requirements: waiting for a flight, stranded, legitimate business with ID. My GF would fail all of those.
Total ghost town, although activity is increasing. Last week I asked at check in. CG had 20 guests total. CG looked like a staged war zone. Big heavy bar on the door with the obligate security guards in the fancy uniforms. Now it's much less stringent than a week ago. My GF is registered but she comes in and out all the time with different staff and they never question her or ask for ID. So I think if you walk in like you are a legit guest, it is no problem. Probably helpful to have a key and know your room number.
Fun things.
Totally dead at night. Walked up and down Makati Ave in the street. Zero traffic. Burgos is like the quietest street anywhere. Everything is closed except for hotels and mini mart /711.
And if you are looking for fake Cialis, fake Viagra, fake watch, or belt etc, you are out of luck! Ha ha ha. Kind of nice to walk up and down Burgos without Cialis being shoved in your face. (but then again, I have my GF here).
I have no idea as to when the bars will open. I have heard that restaurants will be opening soon for eat in dining with appropriate distancing. You know how it goes with bar owners. I am wondering whether bars will now reopen as restaurants to serve food with girls on the side after a payoff to the appropriate local.
That's my report. Back to having a drink, watching TV, and working a little.
[QUOTE=BigFun;2458649]
That's my report. Back to having a drink, watching TV, and working a little.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reports RK & BF. It's hard to imagine that life is still so dead in Ph while back here in Australia life is pretty normal these days. Looking at the Ph covid numbers and the society's way of flouting the rules I can see in time Ph will get on top of it, eventually. The returning travellers would be a little blip compared to the community cases.
Today's Phnom Penh Post had the following statement (in a longer article).
"And starting June 15, Cambodia also requires foreign travellers to deposit $3,000 for testing, quarantine and travelling including covering treatment costs in case they test positive for Covid-19 while in Cambodia.
Government spokesperson Phay Siphan said the government reversed its earlier decision because the virus is gravely affecting the economy.
He said it has become the international standard for countries to charge for treatment services and require foreign travellers to have health insurance".
Note the final line in the Cambodian statement.
This is highly likely to become the standard fee around the ASEAN region at least. It will be announced in PH as soon as the airport opens to those without PH passports or 13 A visas.
Not many people have $3000 usd as disposable cash to deposit into a bank account and be consumable by the local health authorities.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2459110]"And starting June 15, Cambodia also requires foreign travellers to deposit $3,000 for testing, quarantine and travelling including covering treatment costs in case they test positive for Covid-19 while in Cambodia.
This is highly likely to become the standard fee around the ASEAN region at least. It will be announced in PH as soon as the airport opens to those without PH passports or 13 A visas.
Not many people have $3000 usd as disposable cash to deposit into a bank account and be consumable by the local health authorities.[/QUOTE]This will seriously dampen the demand for monger (maybe anyone) cto come to the Philippines of cash is needed. Those who do will wonder how long to wait before they get the cash back if pass the test? Some bank refunds in the western world take week! Hopefully not so in Asia.
Those with blue balls may need to look elsewhere in the near future or stay at home and get used to the local talent. Especially the cheap charlies on the board who boast about stiffing a trike driver 50 pesos or insist 1000 pesos all night is the norm and then say they paid the lady less!
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2459171]This will seriously dampen the demand for monger (maybe anyone) cto come to the Philippines of cash is needed. Those who do will wonder how long to wait before they get the cash back if pass the test? Some bank refunds in the western world take week! Hopefully not so in Asia.
Those with blue balls may need to look elsewhere in the near future or stay at home and get used to the local talent. Especially the cheap charlies on the board who boast about stiffing a trike driver 50 pesos or insist 1000 pesos all night is the norm and then say they paid the lady less![/QUOTE]I am ready to put up my $3,000 deposit. I can use my $1200 stimulus money towards it.
Hopefully no 14 days of quarantine. But if I can do the quarantine in my AC hotel that would be ok.
I have half a dozen girls waiting for my return. Additional 3 new ones awaiting!
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2459330]I am ready to put up my $3,000 deposit. I can use my $1200 stimulus money towards it.
Hopefully no 14 days of quarantine. But if I can do the quarantine in my AC hotel that would be ok.
I have half a dozen girls waiting for my return. Additional 3 new ones awaiting![/QUOTE]But DG you are not a cheap charlie and you have your stimulus cheque LOL Many are not so lucky and will try and stiff the banks a few pesos and boast about it here LOL.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2459363]But DG you are not a cheap charlie and you have your stimulus cheque LOL Many are not so lucky and will try and stiff the banks a few pesos and boast about it here LOL.[/QUOTE]I kind of like the bar set a little high. Keeps out the cheap Charlies.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2458609]I was able to get a last-minute seat on a special flight into Manila for OFWs at 0040 h on June 11.
My test results came back within 46 hours.
I was free to go home immediately.
Now confined in my own condo and not permitted outside because I am over 60. The condo security have reminded me of this.
If you don't have a 13 A visa and are expecting things to ease up soon then don't hold your breath. Cannot see tourist visas being issued for the PH for a long time yet because cases of Covid are still increasing in various parts of Manila and elsewhere.
I am not sure why anyone would be desperate to come here as the virus is still all over and I sure as hell don't want to get it. A family friend from Makati (48 yo, non-smoker, fit and healthy), got it a month ago and died 3 weeks later. His wife said he died in agony from lung failure. It can hit anyone.[/QUOTE]
RK, is the restriction indefinite because you are over 60 or will you be allowed out of your home and circulate after you are virus free after 14 days. My more direct question is are you under an indefinite house arrest? Are there any loosening of restrictions for things like buying groceries, shopping, or meeting friends? Getting laid?
For us sixty plus year old visitors there, I can't imagine anything more fun than a 30 day vacation of being locked in my hotel up indefinitely regardless of whether it is a 1 star or 5 star.
Nut.
I just came across this post in the Sao Paulo thread and I find it very meaningful to share some parts of it.
Quote:
Every man, based on his personal circumstances and desires, has his own limits and that's fine. You don't call a man a cheapskate just because he goes for the Buick every single time. But you don't call him a snob either just because he prefers a BMW, and can tell the difference between the two. I personally won't be going for any Bentley's! I could, but for me that's too much to be paying for "a car" (a piece of ass). But I do accept that there is a difference in value between a Buick and a BMW and a Bentley, and I know how to recognize each one when I see it. What price I want to pay, that's up to me, without passing negative judgments upon others and what they are willing to pay for.
[QUOTE=Amanut;2459378]RK, is the restriction indefinite because you are over 60 or will you be allowed out of your home .....[/QUOTE]There are 4 levels of quarantine, from strictest to least restrictive.
ECQ Enhanced Community quarantine.
MECQ Modified Enhanced Community quarantine.
GCQ Modified General Community quarantine.
MGCQ Modified General Community quarantine.
Under all of these over 60 cannot go out except for essential reasons, Over 60 can go to work in allowed businesses.
The over 60 will not be able to move freely until we get to the new normal.
However this being the Philippines, enforcement will be highly variable. I am in Cebu province and other than most places closed, have had very little restriction on my movements, only asked for my pass at one mall, not the other and never while moving around. However with everything closed, I have not been moving that much.
Once places open up, I doubt if they will be asking me for my ID thinking I am over 60 when it will be the businesses doing the checking and they need the income. I also look younger than 60 so they have some deniability.
The government is under a lot of pressure to reopen the economy so I am thinking that at the end of the current restrictions, most of the country will go to MGCQ and movement will gradually return to normal. They will deal with any further outbreaks by contact tracing etc before undergoing another severe shutdown.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2459603]However this being the Philippines, enforcement will be highly variable. I am in Cebu province and other than most places closed, have had very little restriction on my movements, only asked for my pass at one mall, not the other and never while moving around. However with everything closed, I have not been moving that much.[/QUOTE]Every business here requires you show your brgy exit pass when entering the front door (hardware store even). No mask, no exit pass, no entry (excluding businesses inside malls; the pass must be shown at the mall entrance). Only curfew restricts movement.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2459603]Once places open up, I doubt if they will be asking me for my ID thinking I am over 60 when it will be the businesses doing the checking and they need the income. I also look younger than 60 so they have some deniability.[/QUOTE]Few have asked my age, as I also look younger, and maybe they just don't care to ask. When asked, I've been honest (I am over 59), but nobody cared, nobody told me that I could not go inside.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2459603]They will deal with any further outbreaks by contact tracing etc before undergoing another severe shutdown.[/QUOTE]There is a lot of trace-back documentation going on at restos and coffee shops suddenly. Every coffee shop I enter now makes me fill out a form with my name, residence, and phone number, right at the front door, before entering.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2446363]Totally agree. That is why I do not get it. I asked my wife how she wanted to divide everything. I drew up the paperwork for her to sign. Instead, she decided to get a lawyer. We went to court and the judge gave me more than the original agreement.
The shit would have cost me only $35 to file the original agreement. Because she went to get a lawyer, ended up costing me the same $35 to file and an extra $15 to serve, and cost her $1500 for the lawyer plus the stuff the judge decided to give to me instead of her. Easier and cheaper to work shit out on your own, type that shit up, and file it yourself. Hundreds of examples to follow on the internet, but greed is a mf.[/QUOTE]My ex managed to shaft us both. I offered to pretty much walk away, just with control of my companies, which meant giving her a house (and everything in it) worth $2,400,000 free and clear. She said no. $200,000 in lawyers fees and better part of 2 years later and she had to give me $250,000 in cash (and of course I had control of the companies). So she ended up down $350 k down after 2 years of stress and bitterness. Sigh. You would have thought the value calculation wasn't that hard to make, but I guess it all comes down to emotion rather than intellect for some.
I've been seeing a ton of coverage on the Philippines not easing these lockdowns and retracting verbiage that implies this is temporary.
It seems as if they are digging in and making this more permanent than I had previously anticipated. Smh. Horrible news imo.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vd-wH9r4jw[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NsOQjyq2UU[/URL]
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2460764]I've been seeing a ton of coverage on the Philippines not easing these lockdowns and retracting verbiage that implies this is temporary.
It seems as if they are digging in and making this more permanent than I had previously anticipated. Smh. Horrible news imo.
[/QUOTE]Today's virus cases is 1150，about double of the norm 5-600's.
How to ease the restrictions even if they wanted to being unable to keep the virus numbers under control ?
They may even go stricter to ECQ if these numbers persists.
I just got informed my Manila-Jakarta flight in July is cancelled.
Really bleak outlook for tourist entry for quite sometime.
[QUOTE=Datiao;2460781]Today's virus cases is 1150，about double of the norm 5-600's.
How to ease the restrictions even if they wanted to being unable to keep the virus numbers under control ?
They may even go stricter to ECQ if these numbers persists.
I just got informed my Manila-Jakarta flight in July is cancelled.
Really bleak outlook for tourist entry for quite sometime.[/QUOTE]Pretty much all the girls I've been chatting to (and these are in "safer" provincial areas) have commented that quarantines are getting worse not better.
Many blame the recent opening up of cebu to allow people to leave that city and return home.
Without being alarmist, I'm extending my expectations even further of when I'll actually be willing and able to return.
Cheers G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2460883]Pretty much all the girls I've been chatting to (and these are in "safer" provincial areas) have commented that quarantines are getting worse not better.[/QUOTE]My girl said that many areas were not following the restrictions to begin with. They were out partying and shit.
My contacts in province, mainly Cebu, Palawan, Bohol, sais that lockdown is still very strict, they can go out for food, even long distance, one in Cebu says she walk 3 hours to find vegetables in a wide field where guards authorize them to collect a few, limited quantity by person, and when she return all neighbours who didn't want to walk, want her to give to them. And she is quite obliged to give or she can be at risk.
In Palawan, a cruise ship has arrived with many cases on board, but now they have disembarqued so they are in the city. And the number of cases is raising.
But in Makati, my contact says that situation, today, is quite good, they are able to go out, even if she don't go often, traffic is far from being normal, but situation seems less critical than in thoses provinces.
That's what is heard in these past days.
AC girls I chat with say they are still locked down. Rules have eased a little to go outside. Some barangays still require passes to go about. People under 20 and over 60 are not allowed to go out. Some over 60 with no one to buy food for them are allowed Out to shop.
One girl was allowed to fly home to province. Once in the province she was required to stay 14 days in the barangay quarantine center.
Massage girls I chat with are allowed to work in spas now. But very slow with customers.
Haven't heard about anyone out drinking and partying.
AC girls I chat with say they are still locked down. Rules have eased a little to go outside. Some barangays still require passes to go about. People under 20 and over 60 are not allowed to go out. Some over 60 with no one to buy food for them are allowed Out to shop.
One girl was allowed to fly home from Clark to province. Once in the province she was required to stay 14 days in the barangay quarantine center. Prior to travel she had to go around getting health certificate, barangay travel pass and other requirements.
Massage girls I chat with are allowed to work in spas now. But very slow with customers.
Trikes and jeepney are operating with social distancing.
Hotels have not opened up yet.
Bars are rumored to open soon after passing an inspection.
Haven't heard about anyone out drinking and partying.
Can't speak as to other locations but there are some bars in Makati where if you know the owner they are having "private" parties most days of the week. Not open to the general public but if you get in through your connections full drink and food menus are on the table. Also lots of girls working who may or may not be available. I'm assuming if this is going on in Makati it is also happening in other places in the Philippines.
The whole month of June here in the province of Negros Occidental has been pretty good with the MGCQ.
Bars are open, restaurants are open, malls are fully open, not need to have a pass if you are traveling to different cities within Negros Occidental, taxi / grab, jeepney, tricycle and all type of transportation is back to normal, transportation and mass have their social distance seating of course. Bars at first (first week of June) they asked me to fill up a form with my name / address / phone number, but then starting the second week of June they stop asking for that. The only thing about bars is that they have to close by 10 pm, I was in a bar last Saturday and they let us stay until 1 am but of course they close the doors so they won't notice it was open, they suppose to have a curfew from 10 pm to 4 am here in Negros but twice now I walk after midnight and nobody stop me. I heard they are trying to push the curfew starting midnight soon, maybe on July 1st.
Anyways I guess the province where I am is getting back to normal because Negros Occidental has only 47 cases in total until yesterday (but the last 5 days has been bad with 19 new cases, mostly from Cebu commuters).
To be honest for me this whole month has been almost back to normal, like it was back in February and March, the same routine I had back then I'm doing it now (with the exception of business been open after 10 pm of course). Well malls and supermarket are close earlier than before (before it was 9 pm now is 7 pm), and cinemas are still close, which I have not idea why, since most cinemas are always empty so no need for social distance, I guess my routine of going to the movies once a week with my GF has been the one thing not back to normal.
But good thing the short hotels have been open the whole month, so I continue my 3 times a week short hotel visits this month. I'm glad that they have at least 4 short hotels that I know here in the city where I am that I can take turns. They should have a deal like for every 9 visits you get the 10th visit free, so I would get more than 3 free visits by now, but well, not everything is perfect in this world.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2460895]My contacts in province, mainly Cebu, Palawan, Bohol, sais that lockdown is still very strict, they can go out for food, even long distance, one in Cebu says she walk 3 hours to find vegetables in a wide field where guards authorize them to collect a few, limited quantity by person, and when she return all neighbours who didn't want to walk, want her to give to them. And she is quite obliged to give or she can be at risk..[/QUOTE]Cebu is considered the worst case at the moment with the President calling them and saying Cebuanos were stupid in the local press. My contacts say the Cebu commuters as infecting the outlying province and towns such as Baybay and Ormoc in Leyte.
Best avoid Cebu as according those I know and am told the Cebaunos are 'hard headed and ignorant' (and she lives there).
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2460935]Cebu is considered the worst case at the moment with the President calling them and saying Cebuanos were stupid in the local press. My contacts say the Cebu commuters as infecting the outlying province and towns such as Baybay and Ormoc in Leyte.
Best avoid Cebu as according those I know and am told the Cebaunos are 'hard headed and ignorant' (and she lives there).[/QUOTE]
I am in Moalboal Cebu province. The lockdown here is very relaxed. I have not been asked for pass except at the mall (not every time either) and it has never been a problem (age over 60). The checkpoints are just a social gathering. Several sitting around a table, no distancing or masks in evidence and they never glance twice when I walk past or drive past them.
Other than no stores being open and the temp checks and hand sanitizer at the mall, you would never know anything was happening.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2460957]I am in Moalboal Cebu province. The lockdown here is very relaxed. I have not been asked for pass except at the mall (not every time either) and it has never been a problem (age over 60). The checkpoints are just a social gathering. Several sitting around a table, no distancing or masks in evidence and they never glance twice when I walk past or drive past them.
Other than no stores being open and the temp checks and hand sanitizer at the mall, you would never know anything was happening.[/QUOTE]You would be the envy of friends in Cebu who are really fed up with pinoys not following the basics guidelines. Some in Airbnb and can't get a cutie for love or money.
Good choice of location KG and check the PMs.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2460957]Other than no stores being open and the temp checks and hand sanitizer at the mall, you would never know anything was happening.[/QUOTE]Due to the spike in cases and hospitals being overrun I'm sure this will change there soon enough. The people in the provinces are drinking together like nothing happening like you are describing and undoing the measures they put in place.
Planes are being diverted to CEBU so no way to avoid going to CEBU if you are flying in. Due to demands from frontlines I think we will see the Philippines doing this lockdown in earnest instead of 1-2 days of lockdown and soft opening back up. All of the bar girls that I know are holding birthday parties an encouraging their friends ion their respective provinces to drink and gather. Bar girls are damaged and need socialization, normal people are trying to stick to this lockdown to flatten the curve which has NEVER been flattened in the Philippines. The bar girls I know are joking about COVID, beg and guilt people into gathering, proof is in the pictures they post of the parties they have been holding. Not to mention confirmed infected OFWs being shipped out to their respective provinces. Smh what a mess. If you are already in the Philippines I think you are "lucky" for people trying to get into phils that are not already there seems like that is quite a ways out.
Cebu City nurses planning to quit as hospitals see spike in COVID-19 cases.
[URL]https://coconuts.co/manila/news/cebu-city-nurses-planning-to-quit-as-hospitals-see-spike-in-covid-19-cases/[/URL]
CEBU arrival for flights from the US, UK, Japan & Singapore.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/notes/philippine-airlines/cebu-arrival-for-flights-from-the-us-uk-japan-singapore/972382196922395/[/URL]
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2461278]
The bar girls I know are joking about COVID, beg and guilt people into gathering, proof is in the pictures they post of the parties they have been holding. [/QUOTE]Are you actually in the Philippines?
In my part of Manila most filipinos / Koreans / others are shit-scared of catching Covid and definitely would not attend any form of social event.
In my wife's northern province they are also very scared even though there are very few cases and zero deaths.
I guess it might be the circles in which I live, work and shop. I have not encountered any "bargirls" wanting to party since mid-March (to the best of my knowledge).
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2461299]Are you actually in the Philippines?
...
I guess it might be the circles in which I live, work and shop. I have not encountered any "bargirls" wanting to party since mid-March (to the best of my knowledge).[/QUOTE]Sadly I am not I'm am trying to get back in which is why I'm am so closely watching this however, my Facebook wall is full of bargirls holding private party's in their barangay in the province. Which is why I thought the Philippines was set to open back up soon now of course I have reassessed that and things are not even close to being handled. Bar girls are holding mostly birthday parties which would mostly be benign and just harmless fun if it were not for the covid. I think they think they are helping their dirt poor province friends cope with covid by cheering them up but they are doing it by gathering people together. These girls don't wear masks and 100% are not social distancing. I'm glad to hear that they are obeying the guidelines in your circles that is a "good" thing imo. The faster they get a handle on this the better then chances are that they open this back to to foreigners. The mainstream news paints an entirely different bleak picture of the Philippine and its fight against covid. It does look like the DOT is slated to open the country back up in September, but the way they are handling things even that could be too soon. It is hard to tell what is true to be honest. From all of the guys wanting to get back in I thank you for keeping us in the loop.
BAGUIO PLANS TO RESTART ITS TOURISM BY September 2020.
[URL]https://www.tripzilla.ph/baguio-new-normal-travel/18262[/URL]
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2461375]It does look like the DOT is slated to open the country back up in September, but the way they are handling things even that could be too soon. It is hard to tell what is true[/QUOTE]There's 'opening the country'. And then, there's opening the country to people from the most infected country on the planet. Even when Philippines gets a handle on their situation, that's not going to mean they will let you in, does it?
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2461375]my Facebook wall is full of bargirls holding private party's in their barangay in the province. Which is why I thought the Philippines was set to open back up soon now of course I have reassessed that and things are not even close to being handled. B.[/QUOTE]So you are another person who believes Facebook and that what people post is true and correct? One day you will stop believing in Santa MM.
Some places are doing better than others in the country just as it is elsewhere in the world. Cebu (especially Talisay) is very bad and ahs be called pout the President recently for being probably the worse place for COVID19 and a degrees of irresponsibility that could well match the USA. But if you look closely at FB profiles for ladies there you see photos of them partying. But I know many / most are old photos. They like to give the impression all is well and boast to friends IMHO (which is stupid IMHO also).
Another cutie I know living in LA posted a FB photo of a large BBQ party. She was called out by some for the lack of social distancing. After being trolled about it she admitted it was an old photo!
As for the country opening up you balls must be about to explode? Given your desperation to get back there. Many have the same desire and some allow the brain not the balls to do thinking LOL.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2461375], my Facebook wall is full of bargirls holding private party's in their barangay in the province. Which is why I thought the Philippines was set to open back up soon [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2461299]
I guess it might be the circles in which I live, work and shop. I have not encountered any "bargirls" wanting to party since mid-March (to the best of my knowledge).[/QUOTE]Remember the old saying you can take the girl out of the bar but not the bar out of the girl? Your (MM) Facebook pics are a text book example of this with girls back home splashing cash around, desperate to be the center of attention and be seen as the big girls in town.
I'd agree with RK. Most in the provinces are diving for cover. One girl yesterday reported being abused for simply being out walking down to buy groceries. People returning from cebu etc are openly treated by others as potential sources of contamination. This fear in not totally without reason.
For the record, I too am not in country but am working from chat reports. Without being melodramatic, all are indicating that my earlier expected return date may have been optimistic.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2461375]
BAGUIO PLANS TO RESTART ITS TOURISM BY September 2020.
[URL]https://www.tripzilla.ph/baguio-new-normal-travel/18262[/URL][/QUOTE]It's good for Baguio. Hope they tell the virus.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2461389]So you are another person who believes Facebook and that what people post is true and correct? One day you will stop believing in Santa MM.[/QUOTE]Wait Santa is not real? Or did you mean Satan?
You are right that facebook is "fake"book most of the time but I have seen a few live streams where they are socializing within the bounds of the barangay. They seem to think if they socialize within their own barangay that its fine.
And I have seen a fair share of posts and memes shaming people for obeying the lock down these come from bargirls mostly, whether this speaks to how honest a picture that paints is certainly up for debate. But the world being locked down not much to go on being that the US government state department still has a Level 4 travel alert on all international travel, I think that would have to be downgraded first at least for any US citizen to be let out of their jail cell. I would not put it past dutarte to turn away Americans for the time being.
I think there are two different kinds of open as it pertains to this board.
#1 - One is the business being open and the locals being able to run and re-open business. Local foreigners also being able to frequent such business without hassle.
#2 - Local business / hotels / bars open & receiving tourists that arrived recently & are able to procure sex.
People in CEBU trying to get back to the provinces are bribing cargo planes and cargo ships to get back to the provinces to get around the quarantine. What? This has to be a joke right? Wtf.
They also saying the data the government uses is totally different from the local data from the barangays implying that they have no idea what the real numbers.
They are also sending military to the southern regions to gearing up for this to get worst.
"DILG probes LSIs sneaking into provinces via cargo vehicles".
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNeF0f9yG1A[/URL]
"Corrective measures needed in Cebu City's CoVID-19 response".
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP3UZKx2OWI[/URL]
"PCG fleet resumes to deliver police to Cebu and LSI in Mindanao.
Erwin Aguilon".
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9dMDNZ8X-o[/URL]
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2461592]People in CEBU trying to get back to the provinces are bribing cargo planes and cargo ships to get back to the provinces to get around the quarantine. What? This has to be a joke right? Wtf.
They also saying the data the government uses is totally different from the local data from the barangays implying that they have no idea what the real numbers.
They are also sending military to the southern regions to gearing up for this to get worst.
"DILG probes LSIs sneaking into provinces via cargo vehicles".
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNeF0f9yG1A[/URL]
"Corrective measures needed in Cebu City's CoVID-19 response".
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP3UZKx2OWI[/URL]
"PCG fleet resumes to deliver police to Cebu and LSI in Mindanao.
Erwin Aguilon".
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9dMDNZ8X-o[/URL][/QUOTE]Why are you so surprised. Never been to the Philippines it seems? Welcome to the Philippines where as one cuties once told 'even if poor but have cash you can bribe someone'.
I suggest you put off your visit to end 2021 as I can't see much progress to satisfy your faint heart.
I know many a monger now resigned to 1/2 Q 2021 before they even dip there toe in the waters there let alone their todger in a pussy LOL.
Originally back in December 2019 and January 2020 I was concerned, but still very optimistic about the virus not being that big a deal. I thought warm tropical weather plus the world wide lockdowns would get things under control fast and that travel would be restored by June or July 2020 at the latest. Guess What? I was wrong big time! Turns out Corona ain't going away like previous recent outbreaks. It looks like it is here to stay. As a result international travel will remain off limits for most of us unless you are willing to submit to a quarantine upon arrival and various other restrictions or unless you are already in country. I have a couple of friends in Thailand. All I can say is they are having a much better time stuck in LOS then I am having in Florida even though the situation here in Florida has been Corona lite compared to lockdowns elsewhere.
Anyway, my point is international travel will not be up and running again until there is a widely distributed vaccine. Sorry, but that is the long and short of it. No country is going to open up their borders before the vaccine happens especially the PI. Now when a vaccine is found, and after it passes rigorous human testing and gets the gold seal of approval from the appropriate health organizations, and most importantly WHEN said vaccine becomes widely available is still anyone's guess. At this point availability of a vaccine by the end of 2020 seems way too optimistic to me. I sincerely hope I am wrong. Hopefully by March or April 2021 a vaccine will become widely available, but I wouldn't bet the farm on that date either.
That said, there are a number of very interesting and encouraging vaccine developments in labs all over the world. Scientific progress is being made. For example a recent 2 stage vaccine from Oxford looks very promising. It is just now beginning rigorous human trials. So I am confident an effective vaccine or vaccines will eventually be found. But testing and distribution will take time. That leaves us with no choice, but to stay safe and wait it out.
What a shit year 2020 has turned out to be!
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2461668]Originally back in December 2019 and January 2020 I was concerned, but still very optimistic about the virus not being that big a deal....
What a shit year 2020 has turned out to be![/QUOTE]I was the same but now we have a perfect storm of unable to enter the PI, on the ground conditions making a visit unwise regardless of formal permissions and, mongers not being able to leave their home countries due to exit restrictions.
The first has been covered widely on this board but the other two may be the ones that take the longest to be corrected.
I was one of those that Roger speaks of, holding off and preparing for a Q2 visit but even that now seems wildly optimistic.
Yes some other counties do seem to be paradises to be "trapped" in. Alas, there are also reports of these countries' Emergency Dept beds filling, preventing foreigners admission for COVID treament and of course the difficulty of repatriation should treatment be required.
Sorry to sound melodramatic, but I too was one that wildly underestimated the impact and timeline of the effects of the virus.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2461668]All I can say is they are having a much better time stuck in LOS then I am having in Florida even though the situation here in Florida has been Corona lite compared to lockdowns elsewhere.[/QUOTE]The latest figures indicate that the Florida "lockdown lite" measures may have been entirely misguided. Almost 9000 new cases in one day (25th of June).
Take care and stay safe.
[URL]https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/qantas-boss-alan-joyce-pushes-back-international-travel-date/12391728?utm_medium=social&utm_content=sf235447817&utm_campaign=abc_australia&utm_source=m.facebook.com&sf235447817=1[/URL]
They eased the lockdown restrictions here at the beginning of the month, the malls started to open up, taxis appeared once again on the streets, my condo building (near Ayala Mall) allowed visitors again (they had to fill out an online 'health declaration' form before they were allowed in) but then suddenly on June 16 the authorities reimposed full lockdown again (back to ECQ) and all the malls had to shut and all taxis were taken off the roads and my condo building will not allow visitors.
All households (250,000 households, 1 million residents) in Cebu City had to apply for a quarantine pass back in March, to be shown before being allowed into a supermarket or to be shown if stopped out on the street by the police. These passes were suddenly cancelled last Tuesday and people were told to remain indoors until new passes were issued. They will be colour coded and will restrict when you can go outdoors, to just 3 days a week depending on the last digit on the pass. And no one will be allowed outdoors on a Sunday, starting fro tomorrow! Private cars are not allowed on the roads on Sundays, and are restricted to just 3 days a week during the week, depending on the last digit on their number plate. And everyone under the age of 21 or over 60 (I am in my mid 60's) is still not allowed to go outdoors, even when the restrictions were eased up at the beginning of the month this age group were still not allowed to go outdoors.
I did go out this afternoon, I have been out most days since the start of lockdown, either to go out to get food, or for a walk for exercise.
I have not been issued with my new pass so technically I was breaking the law this afternoon and could have been fined, I went to Rustans to buy some food, there were very few people out and about and very few cars.
So, all the bars and pubs and clubs are still closed, all the cinemas are still closed, there are some restaurants open but only for take-out, and there is an overnight curfew from 8 pm. The local supermarkets are closed at 6 pm.
Last Monday I got in my first taxi in about 2 1/2 months and took a ride down to SM City, there was a lot of traffic out on the roads and loads of pedestrians, not all the shops and restaurants were open in SM City, most restaurants that were open were for take-out only but I found one restaurant that was allowing dine-in, and for the first time in about 3 months I had a meal in a restaurant! And I also found a coffee shop at SM City (Bo's) that allowed dine-in, and also gave them my custom. But then, as I mentioned, the very next day all the Malls had to shut down again and we are now back to where we were at the end of March.
As for pussy, I have a few regulars here but all are under the age of 21 and are unable to come out to meet me. About a month ago I found one girl online (on Pinalove) and have met her a few times and used a small budget hotel nearby, she claims to be 23 but I think she is late 20's, really out of my preferred age-range but I'll have to make do for now, anyway, it's good sexercise! As there are no jeeps or taxis running, she has a 1 and 1/2 hour walk to come and meet me, I have about a 20 minute walk, the hotel is 1 k and I give her 1. 5 k.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2461668]All I can say is they are having a much better time stuck in LOS then I am having in Florida even though the situation here in Florida has been Corona lite compared to lockdowns elsewhere.[/QUOTE]You speak way to soon NB.
Wolvenvacht said it before and this article repeats itself and shows the folly of listening to an idiot (plus the governor is generally on his knees when he speak to the Great Leader LOL).
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53205720[/URL]
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2461742][URL]https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/qantas-boss-alan-joyce-pushes-back-international-travel-date/12391728?utm_medium=social&utm_content=sf235447817&utm_campaign=abc_australia&utm_source=m.facebook.com&sf235447817=1[/URL][/QUOTE]I am stuck in USA. ATM banned from EU too.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2461774]They eased the lockdown restrictions here at the beginning of the month, the malls started to open up, taxis appeared once again on the streets, my condo building (near Ayala Mall) allowed visitors again (they had to fill out an online 'health declaration' form before they were allowed in) but then suddenly on June 16 the authorities reimposed full lockdown again (back to ECQ) and all the malls had to shut and all taxis were taken off the roads and my condo building will not allow visitors.
As for pussy, I have a few regulars here but all are under the age of 21 and are unable to come out to meet me. About a month ago I found one girl online (on Pinalove) and have met her a few times and used a small budget hotel nearby, she claims to be 23 but I think she is late 20's, really out of my preferred age-range but I'll have to make do for now, anyway, it's good sexercise! As there are no jeeps or taxis running, she has a 1 and 1/2 hour walk to come and meet me, I have about a 20 minute walk, the hotel is 1 k and I give her 1. 5 k.[/QUOTE]Nice FR Mdemde.
Cebu is being called out by the President as hear headed and people unable to follow the rules. I know a lot of people in Cebu are angry at others for basically ignoring the advice and warnings. - and there are some serious hotspots there (more along the SRP) but sadly many pinoys are 'hard headed' (to quote a cutie I know who is also upset at the ECQ being reimposed) and they seems intent on messing it up for everyone else.
Check your PMs please.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2461837]I am stuck in USA. ATM banned from EU too.[/QUOTE]DG.
The way things are looking in your place USA citizens will be banned for a long time from most places. Makes sense given the spikes in cases and the fact you have such great leadership handling a huge public health crisis like a baby in arms sucking his thumb.
Be safe my friend.
I left Cebu City February 28th after spending the month there for work. With going back to ECQ indefinitely June 16th I don't think tourism will now come back til fall at best. More likely after Christmas. I'm back in NYC where it's seems under control but it's because we can be outside this time of year. Places like FLA basically ignored the virus and seem to be paying for it now. I'm not sure when I can get back to Cebu for work. And if I do it's likely a quarantine despite that I have been tested. I still think with 106-109 million people the Philippines is safer health wise but I wouldn't go back now with all these lockdowns on and off despite me missing the ladies.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2461668]Originally back in December 2019 and January 2020 I was concerned, but still very optimistic about the virus not being that big a deal. I thought warm tropical weather plus the world wide lockdowns would get things under control fast and that travel would be restored by June or July 2020 at the latest. Guess What? I was wrong big time! Turns out Corona ain't going away like previous recent outbreaks. It looks like it is here to stay. As a result international travel will remain off limits for most of us unless you are willing to submit to a quarantine upon arrival and various other restrictions or unless you are already in country. I have a couple of friends in Thailand. All I can say is they are having a much better time stuck in LOS then I am having in Florida even though the situation here in Florida has been Corona lite compared to lockdowns elsewhere.
Anyway, my point is international travel will not be up and running again until there is a widely distributed vaccine. Sorry, but that is the long and short of it. No country is going to open up their borders before the vaccine happens especially the PI. Now when a vaccine is found, and after it passes rigorous human testing and gets the gold seal of approval from the appropriate health organizations, and most importantly WHEN said vaccine becomes widely available is still anyone's guess. At this point availability of a vaccine by the end of 2020 seems way too optimistic to me. I sincerely hope I am wrong. Hopefully by March or April 2021 a vaccine will become widely available, but I wouldn't bet the farm on that date either.
That said, there are a number of very interesting and encouraging vaccine developments in labs all over the world. Scientific progress is being made. For example a recent 2 stage vaccine from Oxford looks very promising. It is just now beginning rigorous human trials. So I am confident an effective vaccine or vaccines will eventually be found. But testing and distribution will take time. That leaves us with no choice, but to stay safe and wait it out.
What a shit year 2020 has turned out to be![/QUOTE].
A few months ago I posted about an American guy who had wound up in Cebu City Jail following a allegation by the mother of a downs girl he had let into has apartment. If you recall he had been cleared of the main charge but sentenced to "child abuse". Sadly he died at the beginning of this month. As many of you are probably aware the Jails in Phils are a hotbed for covid because of the insane overcrowding. They have found many hundreds of confirmed cases though IMHO most of the inmates will now be positive and asymptomatic. The guy developed a fever but they just kept him in the cell only sending him to hospital when it got very serious. He died a few hours later and was buried the next day. The death cert says "septic shock" but he was 51 and my guess is the are just using it as a cover to avoid media coverage. Sorry for the depressing news I know its not what you came to this site to hear, but it's worth being well aware of the risks of certain behaviours here.
[QUOTE=OlderAndWiser;2461910]A few months ago I posted about an American guy who had wound up in Cebu City Jail following a allegation by the mother of a downs girl he had let into has apartment. The guy developed a fever but they just kept him in the cell only sending him to hospital when it got very serious. He died a few hours later and was buried the next day. The death cert says "septic shock" but he was 51 and my guess is the are just using it as a cover to avoid media coverage. Sorry for the depressing news I know its not what you came to this site to hear, but it's worth being well aware of the risks of certain behaviours here.[/QUOTE]Though its sad a human life is lost in this way but.
He should know better than to associate w minors, worse inviting her into his apartment w dubious intentions.
One of my friends were always targetting the minors, the next thing I do is severe all ties w him.
There was a girl wanting to be my gf, but when i found out she is 16, i declined.
If you want to risk, then be prepared to face the consequences.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2461840]Nice FR Mdemde.
Cebu is being called out by the President as hear headed and people unable to follow the rules. I know a lot of people in Cebu are angry at others for basically ignoring the advice and warnings. - and there are some serious hotspots there (more along the SRP) but sadly many pinoys are 'hard headed' (to quote a cutie I know who is also upset at the ECQ being reimposed) and they seems intent on messing it up for everyone else.
Check your PMs please.[/QUOTE]Thanks WR, I will do so now.
[QUOTE=Datiao;2462011]Though its sad a human life is lost in this way but.
He should know better than to associate w minors, worse inviting her into his apartment w dubious intentions.
One of my friends were always targetting the minors, the next thing I do is severe all ties w him.
There was a girl wanting to be my gf, but when i found out she is 16, i declined.
If you want to risk, then be prepared to face the consequences.[/QUOTE]Always insist on police I. d ,not school or work I. D. For police I. D it costs around 250 pesos and couple of days. I believe police needs to be shown real birth certificate.
It is well known there are lots of mothers and cousins looking to make money fronting pretty girls who are not of legal age. I have several contacts who when pressed say the girls who they will procure are under age. Hotels have gotten tougher now checking I. D. For a person who is living local having an apartment thinking it is okay to do whatever is very risky.
Let the big head do the thinking and be safe.
That is correct, work or school eye dee will not have date of birth; if it does, it was likely purchased on the street in Chinatown. There are alternatives to police clearance (there is no such thing as "police eye dee," except of course for police themselves): there is voter registration, free or cheap and needed to access local services, and with photo this is good proof of age 18. There is postal eye dee, used for banking. Also driver's license, etc. Also "barangay" or local neighborhood eye dee, but in place of this an 18 year old May as well have the voter eye dee.
Really, there is no excuse for someone age 18+ not to have at least a voter registration card. Absolutely no good excuse, she might be asked for proof of age when traveling, especially nowadays. And do check the photo that it's not her cousin.
Of course knowing filipinas, it may be that the card is declared "lost" because she does not want you to know her real name. In that case also, reject her.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2462020]Always insist on police I. The, not school or work I. The. For police I. The it costs around 250 pesos and couple of days. I believe police needs to be shown real birth certificate.
It is well known there are lots of mothers and cousins looking to make money fronting pretty girls who are not of legal age. I have several contacts who when pressed say the girls who they will procure are under age. Hotels have gotten tougher now checking I. The. For a person who is living local having an apartment thinking it is okay to do whatever is very risky.
Let the big head do the thinking and be safe.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cbea20;2462028](there is no such thing as "police eye dee," except of course for police themselves): there is voter registration, free or cheap and needed to access local services, and with photo this is good proof of age 18. There is postal eye dee, used for banking. Also driver's license, etc.r.[/QUOTE]The Postal identification is the big one. They all know they need it, and no reason why one wouldn't have it.
[QUOTE=Datiao;2462011]Though its sad a human life is lost in this way but.
He should know better than to associate w minors, worse inviting her into his apartment w dubious intentions.
One of my friends were always targetting the minors, the next thing I do is severe all ties w him.
There was a girl wanting to be my gf, but when i found out she is 16, i declined.
If you want to risk, then be prepared to face the consequences.[/QUOTE]Certainly he knew this. The girl was actually 24 but she had a mental age of a child and so counted as a minor in the Phils which he wasn't aware of. He also didn't have any sexual intent he had just been asked to clean a wound on her leg apparently.
It's an unusual case, and your main point, to be paranoid of any contact with minors is perfectly valid.
Mr OAW,
I have been bitten before.
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
Have stopped playing with fire.
Hope our friends keep safe, and save their own lives.
Vic.
[QUOTE=OlderAndWiser;2461910]A few months ago I posted about an American guy who had wound up in Cebu City Jail following a allegation by the mother of a downs girl he had let into has apartment. If you recall he had been cleared of the main charge but sentenced to "child abuse". Sadly he died at the beginning of this month. As many of you are probably aware the Jails in Phils are a hotbed for covid because of the insane overcrowding. They have found many hundreds of confirmed cases though IMHO most of the inmates will now be positive and asymptomatic. The guy developed a fever but they just kept him in the cell only sending him to hospital when it got very serious. He died a few hours later and was buried the next day. The death cert says "septic shock" but he was 51 and my guess is the are just using it as a cover to avoid media coverage. Sorry for the depressing news I know its not what you came to this site to hear, but it's worth being well aware of the risks of certain behaviours here.[/QUOTE]
Looks like the admin has been kind enough to make me a Senior Member so I now have a private inbox.
I have posted before about the critical importance of having an Atty you can trust if ever you are unfortunate enough to get into trouble here in the Phils.
The case of the American guy who died earlier this month is a perfect example. The case he was fighting was ridiculously weak. The only evidence against him was that of a Downs girl who pointed to her mouth which was interpreted by her Shabu addict mum as oral rape. Anyone who took one look at the girl in question who was basically homeless, living in the streets, not washed for weeks, as well as suffering from Downs would immediately see that no one in their right mind would want to have any sexual contact with the girl. He ended up dieing because he didn't get a decent atty fast enough and when he did he had a stupid feud with him and the next one he got was murdered.
IMHO it is absolutely essential that anyone who spends any reasonable amount of time here has the names and numbers of a few more or less honest Attys specializing in criminal law in their phone book. If you plan to be here full time it would probably be worth preemptively establishing a relationship with one, but in any case you should have some names and numbers. Don't expect your Embassy to be able or willing to help in this situation, all they will do is give you a list of the most expensive top end generalist firms in the Philippines who are unlikely to want to take you on as a client or have the relevant skills. By and large if you are in one of the big cities Manila, Cebu or Davao you will be better off with a local lawyer. The quality of criminal lawyers outside the big cities is so low, you may find no reasonable alternative but to hire someone out of town. If you would like a list of reasonable Cebu Criminal lawyers, just PM me I'll put one together. Hopefully you will never need it, but like all insurance it's well worth having in case you ever do.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2461774]The local supermarkets are closed at 6 pm.
Last Monday I got in my first taxi in about 2 1/2 months and took a ride down to SM City, there was a lot of traffic out on the roads and loads of pedestrians, not all the shops and restaurants were open in SM City, most restaurants that were open were for take-out only but I found one restaurant that was allowing dine-in, and for the first time in about 3 months I had a meal in a restaurant! And I also found a coffee shop at SM City (Bo's) that allowed dine-in, and also gave them my custom. But then, as I mentioned, the very next day all the Malls had to shut down again and we are now back to where we were at the end of March.[/QUOTE]In my post of 27th June I wrote that "Last Monday I got in my first taxi in about 2 1/2 months and took a ride down to SM City", I got my dates mixed-up, it was actually Monday the 15th June when I went there, and the very next day, 16th June, Cebu City reverted back to ECQ (the worst level) and shut down all the Malls, so they have been shut now for nearly 2 weeks.
And Metro supermarket inside Ayala Mall is now closing every day at 5 pm, not 6 pm, but Rustans is open till 6 pm.
[QUOTE=Cbea20;2462028]That is correct, work or school eye dee will not have date of birth; if it does, it was likely purchased on the street in Chinatown. There are alternatives to police clearance (there is no such thing as "police eye dee," except of course for police themselves): there is voter registration, free or cheap and needed to access local services, and with photo this is good proof of age 18. There is postal eye dee, used for banking. Also driver's license, etc. Also "barangay" or local neighborhood eye dee, but in place of this an 18 year old May as well have the voter eye dee.
Really, there is no excuse for someone age 18+ not to have at least a voter registration card. Absolutely no good excuse, she might be asked for proof of age when traveling, especially nowadays. And do check the photo that it's not her cousin.
Of course knowing filipinas, it may be that the card is declared "lost" because she does not want you to know her real name. In that case also, reject her.[/QUOTE]All proof of age costs money. Like I said before there is only small percentage of young 18,19,20 year old girls willing to have sex with foreigners not counting bargirls. I am talking about non bargirls.
These girls usually do not have jobs. Living with their parents and their social life is Partying with other young people in the barangay. Hearing from some friends they can make money from foreigners they join dating sites. They have no money to get proof of their identity. If I really like them after chatting cam to cam I do send money for them to get it. Most of the time I am not scammed. They know if they scam me for few pesos big payday will never come. Even some who confess being not of age fixed me up with their friends and cousins. I am generous if the girls are nice and friendly. Many have never been with foreigners.
Lately the hotel receptionist and security are very strict checking. There were instances where they found fake identities.
[QUOTE=OlderAndWiser;2462036]Certainly he knew this. The girl was actually 24 but she had a mental age of a child and so counted as a minor in the Phils which he wasn't aware of. He also didn't have any sexual intent he had just been asked to clean a wound on her leg apparently. It's an unusual case, and your main point, to be paranoid of any contact with minors is perfectly valid.[/QUOTE]Yes and there is a girl that runs around AC begging for coins that seems both a it young shall I say, and a bit simple minded. Next thing I see is her sucking some dude off on a porn site. Really shameful.
Cebu is now the city in lockdown the longest. Not one I would want to have in my list of achievements. Friends there say too many head headed pinoys, some having fiestas etc WTF?
[URL]https://www.philstar.com/opinion/2020/06/30/2024456/cebu-city-worlds-longest-locked-down-city[/URL]
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2462549]Cebu is now the city in lockdown the longest. Not one I would want to have in my list of achievements. Friends there say too many head headed pinoys, some having fiestas etc WTF?
[/QUOTE]Are we officially surprised now?, this is what I pointed out. I'm sure we will see the whole Philippines break all the wrong records soon enough.
2 months ago it "seemed" as if they had a handle on it, and had a lot of this board optimistic, it was just too good to be true the Philippines we all know and love is showing its stripes here imo.
Largest increase in new cases from Cebu City in Central Visayas.
[URL]https://reliefweb.int/report/philippines/philippines-coronavirus-disease-covid-19-situation-report-42-30-june-2020[/URL]
Philippines COVID-19: The fastest growing country in the Western Pacific.
[URL]http://outbreaknewstoday.com/philippines-covid-19-the-fastest-growing-country-in-the-western-pacific-66818/[/URL]
It was expect it that the cases will increase once they start testing regularly, before June they only test it like 150,000 to 200,000 people, in this month of June they started testing regularly and now more than 700,000 test have been done so far (500,000+ test in the last 3 weeks. Compare to 200,000 test done before in 2. 5 months /10 weeks).
If anything, we shouldn't worry too much since the cases are low comparing to other countries that test regularly, countries like: USA (30 k cases daily), Brazil (30 k cases daily), India (15 K cases daily), Russia (9 k cases daily), Spain (5 K cases daily), UK (4 K cases daily), Italy (4 K cases daily), Germany (4 K cases daily), France (3 K cases daily), Canada (1. 5 K cases daily). Philippines are only getting about 700 to 800 daily cases on average (less than 1 k!) during their regular testing time.
As long as they keep controlling those cities with high cases like Cebu City (keep them in ECQ until improves), I don't see Philippines getting worse or as bad as many Latin America countries right now. Remember there are alot of Philippine cities Covid cases free and provinces with less than 100 cases in the whole province!
In my opinion Philippines are doing a good job so far with their Quarantine laws.
I know there are other countries doing better BUT most of those countries don't have 100+ millions population, if you compare Philippines to those countries of 100+ millions population (even 80+ millions) this country is doing pretty good with lower cases.
I'm planning to go to Manila on the third week of July, does anybody here in Manila know of a condo or accommodation that is girl friendly right now?
My plan is to have 2 or 3 different girls a day and bringing them to my condo, are the covid accommodation rules impossible to do this? Am I allow to only bring 1 girl a day or are there still condos allowing to bring multiple girls a day?
My other plan is to rent a house, so that there won't be any guards controlling your guest coming in and out.
Anybody that can recommend me of a rental house in Manila?
BTW I'm already in the Philippines, so I will be traveling from the province with a travel pass and a medical clearance.
[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2462491]Yes and there is a girl that runs around AC begging for coins that seems both a it young shall I say, and a bit simple minded. Next thing I see is her sucking some dude off on a porn site. Really shameful.[/QUOTE]Can you post the link?
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2462727]I'm planning to go to Manila on the third week of July, does anybody here in Manila know of a condo or accommodation that is girl friendly right now?
My plan is to have 2 or 3 different girls a day and bringing them to my condo, are the covid accommodation rules impossible to do this? Am I allow to only bring 1 girl a day or are there still condos allowing to bring multiple girls a day?
My other plan is to rent a house, so that there won't be any guards controlling your guest coming in and out.
Anybody that can recommend me of a rental house in Manila?
BTW I'm already in the Philippines, so I will be traveling from the province with a travel pass and a medical clearance.[/QUOTE]There could be an issue with getting in and out of most hotels in Manila since virtually ALL of them are being used for quarantine of OFWs and BPO workers who have tested positive.
For some it's just one or 2 floors. For others, it's almost the whole place.
Entry to hotels is now very strict.
I went into EDSA Shangri la yesterday. Had to go through temp check, wash hands, then fill up a form saying where I was going (which resto or room) . I was using it as a short cut so when confronted by the form I excused myself and did a you-turn.
My condo is NOT allowing outside visitors in yet. If you have a visitor you have to meet them in the lobby.
You should try Air bnb to find a condo but ask a lot of questions before you pay, becos the condo might be locked down. That means you might be allowed in as the tenant, but no visitors will be allowed.
Conclusion: Use air bnb to get a house but again, ask a lot of questions. You are also running a helluva risk with 3 or 4 girls a day. How will you be sure at least 1 of them or all of them are not carrying the virus? If she has come from Tondo for example, yikes.
(One reason why I won't go near LA Cafe for a long time yet).
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2462727]I'm planning to go to Manila on the third week of July, does anybody here in Manila know of a condo or accommodation that is girl friendly right now?[/QUOTE]How are you planning to do that? If you are asking about accommodation options then presumably you are not a Permanent Resident. Are tourists now allowed in?
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2462770]There could be an issue with getting in and out of most hotels in Manila since virtually ALL of them are being used for quarantine of OFWs and BPO workers who have tested positive. For some it's just one or 2 floors. For others, it's almost the whole place. Entry to hotels is now very strict.[/QUOTE]In my city, almost all hotels (those that didn't close quickly when the lockdowns started) are almost completely full of OFW / SLI (Stranded Local Individual pinoy). It started, quietly and with no hotel announcement, about 4 weeks into the lockdown here. I moved into a nearly empty hotel (where I've stayed many times before). I didn't like the place where I was staying and just walked in off the street to the hotel and inquired about a room. "Westy welcome back! Yes, rent a room here. We miss you". Is that Mgmt code for you don't have very many customers? "Haha yes. Owner wants to stay open but few customers". I rented as there was a good rate on Agoda, the rooms have stiff mattresses (I like) and large mirrors (imagine me wanting that) and good wifi, and for less than you might expect. The next day as I was going out for lunch the desk girl called me over and asked for my Brgy health clearance. I handed it over and she made a copy. "Also sir Westy you need one for any guest". Wait, you didn't mention that when I booked the room for a week. She called a manager out and they spoke quietly. The manager turned to me and said: "Don't worry your guest's clearance". Check!
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2462770]My condo is NOT allowing outside visitors in yet. If you have a visitor you have to meet them in the lobby.[/QUOTE]All condos in my city are not taking any outsiders (pinoy included) that are over 59 or under 21, and all newcomers must have a brgy or city health clearance (proof of 14-day quarantine in THIS city with no symptoms) + doctor's medical certificate (blood test and possibly chest xray). Even if you are allowed in to rent, you must register your guests at the time you register into the building, then each of them upon entry must also provide a health clearance + medical certificate. Many apartments in the area require same. Many hotels now require at least the brgy / city health clearance showing your quarantine or living in the city for 2 weeks symptom-free. If you are in a condo or such hotel or apartment, your guests will have to show the same. Some of my mates in this area are using short-time hotels for joy.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2462770]You should try Air bnb to find a condo but ask a lot of questions before you pay, becos the condo might be locked down. That means you might be allowed in as the tenant, but no visitors will be allowed. Conclusion: Use air bnb to get a house but again, ask a lot of questions. [/QUOTE]I have had mixed results in asking the questions of the airbnb hosts or owners. Example: Is there an age restriction at your condo?
1. "No sir". (Later it will turn out there is).
2. "No sir. But the property Admin might have restriction". BaJesus! You don't know? You are not 100% sure?
3. "No sir. The property Admin maybe has restriction. You ask them". Wait. You want me to fly to your city, taxi to your building, and ask at the front desk about the age restriction? "If you want to sir". BaJesus! Can't YOU ask them, since you live there? "Oh. Yes sir". BaJesus! Did the building Admin not notice you of these things? "I don't know sir. I can check". BaJesus! In chatting with the Admin at one such property, they told me: "Yes sir we notice every unit owner at the start of Covid lockdown. In fact, its the unit owners that have meeting and vote for these restrictions. Then we notice to all of them. Also we put up large sign in lobby and sign in elevators. Any owner tell you they are not aware is not telling a truth".
All condo properties have told me that all visitors must have same appropriate medical clearances here. Its one reason I don't want to go back to Manila, as I'm sure its the same there. One property Management told me that if I rented an airbnb place there, that I would not be allowed any visitors for any reason. I told them the airbnb rental was for two, me and my GF. "Sorry sir. You only will be allowed entry. You decide that with the owner and airbnb. But you only. No guests or visitor". I informed the owner, as the airbnb rental was already complete. He refused to refund, and I had to turn to airbnb. They refunded in full (official reason was not Covid, it was "Unit was not as described in listing" This is how it goes.
SN: The idea of coming in July is probably way too soon. If you've been following the discussion here, there have been guesses as to when lockdowns will lighten (they have, June 1), just a bit. Sunshine-up-the-ass estimates are for this year, more conservative estimates are 2021 (or later). WC.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2462770]There could be an issue with getting in and out of most hotels in Manila since virtually ALL of them are being used for quarantine of OFWs and BPO workers who have tested positive.[/QUOTE]I don't stay in hotels anymore, the last 6-7 years I always stay in condos or houses from airbnb.
[QUOTE]My condo is NOT allowing outside visitors in yet. If you have a visitor you have to meet them in the lobby.
You should try Air bnb to find a condo but ask a lot of questions before you pay, becos the condo might be locked down. That means you might be allowed in as the tenant, but no visitors will be allowed.[/QUOTE]What about if I come with my guest straight from the airport and sign her as my second guest, do I need to give her name days in advance? Or just when I check-in, I still haven't decide who will pick me up at the airport, I have 3 candidates so I need to make sure who ever I choose will be the right one, because I might get stuck with her for my whole Manila stay.
Or maybe I should book the condo every 3 days and check-in a different girl everytime, hahaha that will be fun if it works, LOL.
[QUOTE]Conclusion: Use air bnb to get a house but again, ask a lot of questions. You are also running a helluva risk with 3 or 4 girls a day. How will you be sure at least 1 of them or all of them are not carrying the virus? If she has come from Tondo for example, yikes.
(One reason why I won't go near LA Cafe for a long time yet).[/QUOTE]I have a cutie from Tondo, she told me she lives in the good side of Tondo not the poor side and from her facebook pics she doesn't look poor, she has a nice bedroom with aircond.
Does Tondo have a bad coronavirus epidemic? Or you just think because most of Tondo is a poor area so they might all have the virus.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2462792]How are you planning to do that? If you are asking about accommodation options then presumably you are not a Permanent Resident. Are tourists now allowed in?
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Tourist are allow in if you are stranded in the province and you have a flight back to your country, my flight back is for August.
But more likely I will change my flight date once I am in Manila.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2462800]SN: The idea of coming in July is probably way too soon. If you've been following the discussion here, there have been guesses as to when lockdowns will lighten (they have, June 1), just a bit. Sunshine-up-the-ass estimates are for this year, more conservative estimates are 2021 (or later). WC.[/QUOTE]I wish I can wait longer, I been holding going to Manila for a month now, but I really need to go there on July.
Today Manila was kept to GCQ, but Duterte said that Manila restrictions will be further eased to revive the economy. Hopefully on July 15 it will be change to MGCQ just in time before going there. There is a huge difference from GCQ to MGCQ, condo restrictions are lifted, here in the province I could bring a visitor without restrictions and not writing her name or giving ID. Well most of my visitors has been friends or family of my GF but still, I don't think bringing a girl will be any different.
I found a condo in airbnb that doesn't have security guards but is still secure because only people with a key can get in and because it has alot of cameras. Most reviews for that condo said that condo is secure so you have nothing to worry about.
That condo will be perfect for bringing multiple girls in a day since not restrictions and guards. I send an email to the owner a couple of days ago, so far no reply.
Worse case I will have to book a girl in my condo, and then when she goes to work I will use the short hotels close by for the other girls.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2462832]Tourist are allow in if you are stranded in the province and you have a flight back to your country, my flight back is for August.
But more likely I will change my flight date once I am in Manila.[/QUOTE]My bad: I didn't read the part about you already being in country. Good luck with organizing a place that accepts visitors (we will want reports. 😁 ) and of course stay safe and healthy.
Regards. G.
I was in country January and February before full on shit storm hit. While there I had a cold and sinus infection. Antibiotics etc cured after a few days. I was thinking I might have had the covid flu so when back home I got the antibody test (blood test) hoping it would be positive giving me some potential immunity. Nope, test came back negative. Nurse said that is Good News sir. I said not really, I was hoping to have some immunity and she said maybe it will be a slightly different strain later. I laughed and told her if her logic was true then we both should not bother with annual flu shot bcuz we never know exactly which strain of flu will be around that year. She hesitated and said of course you are correct but I have been told what we have to say, wtf.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2462897]I was hoping to have some immunity and she said maybe it will be a slightly different strain later. [/QUOTE]The annual flu shot is a collection of 'best guess' strains as to the flu strain that might be circulating. In a country that has successfully 'flattened' the Covid curve, our flu numbers have gone from 30,000 last year to just 200 in the same period this year.
Mr FT I think you were more interested in flirting with that nurse. I have a feeling that the way this pandemic is progressing we will all be sending more time flirting with nurses.
PP.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2462897]I was thinking I might have had the covid flu so when back home I got the antibody test (blood test) hoping it would be positive giving me some potential immunity. Nope, test came back negative. Nurse said that is Good News sir. I said not really, I was hoping to have some immunity and she said maybe it will be a slightly different strain later.[/QUOTE]As someone who has semi regular malaria relapses, I wouldn't recommend intentionally catching a disease in the hope of building an immunity. Proven immunization is fine but anything else, I'd avoid especially as we all get older.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2462985]As someone who has semi regular malaria relapses, I wouldn't recommend intentionally catching a disease in the hope of building an immunity. Proven immunization is fine but anything else, I'd avoid especially as we all get older.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about your malaria bouts, I didn't know it is a relapsing illness. Damn mosquitoes, I don't plan to intentionally get the flu. I had it bad once almost 30 years ago and I thought I was going to die for 10 days. Probably would kill me now in my 70's. Viruses are sneaky bastards and stopping them from moving thru a population is almost impossible, slowing them is possible which is being tried now at a significant human cost without much success in most countries. If caught just hope I get a "mild" case.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2463001]Viruses are sneaky bastards and stopping them from moving thru a population is almost impossible, slowing them is possible which is being tried now at a significant human cost without much success in most countries. If caught just hope I get a "mild" case.[/QUOTE]In countries where the people want to stop / slow the virus it has been successful and those countries are now getting on with life. I would say 'most' countries are getting the outcome that their actions seek.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2462985]As someone who has semi regular malaria relapses, I wouldn't recommend intentionally catching a disease in the hope of building an immunity. Proven immunization is fine but anything else, I'd avoid especially as we all get older.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]I'm with you. I've had malaria twice and it's not an experience I would wish on anyone. The more science is uncovering about COVID-19, and its possible long lasting effects on health, the more it seems prudent to avoid it.
GE.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2462829]
I have a cutie from Tondo, she told me she lives in the good side of Tondo not the poor side and from her facebook pics she doesn't look poor, she has a nice bedroom with aircond.
Does Tondo have a bad coronavirus epidemic? Or you just think because most of Tondo is a poor area so they might all have the virus.[/QUOTE]Yes. All of Manila (that's "old" Manila inc Malate, Ermita, Paco, Binondo, Intramuros and Tondo) are seeing large spikes in infections.
I definitely wouldn't be liaising with anyone from those areas.
The other problem you might encounter is that those areas may well be totally locked-down by the time you are in the NCR. The Mayor Isko Mareno was on TV earlier syaing that he was thinking he will have to do that because of the infection rates.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2463001]Sorry to hear about your malaria bouts, I didn't know it is a relapsing illness. ........Probably would kill me now in my 70's. [/QUOTE]It depends on the strain. Some do, some don't. I've seen a few guys whose relapse was far worse than their original case. Sometimes the relapse can be decades later and if often caused by another stressor: change in location, climate, fatigue etc.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2462985]As someone who has semi regular malaria relapses, I wouldn't recommend intentionally catching a disease in the hope of building an immunity. Proven immunization is fine but anything else, I'd avoid especially as we all get older.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Malaria is a parasite not a virus or a bacteria so there is no immunity to it.
However your point is well made. With Covid we don't really know about immunity, it is appearing that the worse your symptom the more immunity gained but that is about the limit of our knowledge.
" Lorenzana claimed that the World Health Organization predicted that the coronavirus would have killed almost 7,000 Filipinos in the first three months of the lockdown, with cases reaching as high as 75,000. As of yesterday, the country has 38,085 reported COVID-19 cases, with 1,274 deaths and 10,673 recoveries. ".
Philippines government remains glass half full on its fight with COVID, I think they might push for reopening their economy sooner than "worst case".
Since the cases don't reflect the worst case scenario, I think we see them experiment with reopening despite the rising number of infected cases. Regardless of it being bad or not as bad, public sentiment and the liability placed on local government and business owners keeps this lockdown firmly in place.
When the public starts to not fear this virus regardless of the real safety or the lack there of and we see the onus put on patrons rather than governments and businesses, I think we see things reopen for real.
"Lorenzana claims COVID-19 cases have 'plateaued'; 80% of PH to be on MGCQ on July 16".
[URL]https://coconuts.co/manila/news/lorenzana-claims-covid-19-cases-have-plateaued-80-of-ph-to-be-on-mgcq-on-july-16/[/URL]
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2463141]Yes. All of Manila (that's "old" Manila inc Malate, Ermita, Paco, Binondo, Intramuros and Tondo) are seeing large spikes in infections.
I definitely wouldn't be liaising with anyone from those areas.
The other problem you might encounter is that those areas may well be totally locked-down by the time you are in the NCR. The Mayor Isko Mareno was on TV earlier syaing that he was thinking he will have to do that because of the infection rates.[/QUOTE]How sad! Most of the girls that mongers root hail from Malate, Ermita, Paco, Binondo, Intramuros and Tondo. It would be difficult for a monger to find a good root without enlisting the services of such girls and possibly copping a case of the deadly bat virus in the process. The alternative is to remain locked away living a sexless existence in Manila until the tsunami of bat virus subsides unless upper class Pinays start selling pussy to old foreign mongers for some odd reason. Rumor has it that glory holes are making a comeback in the time of coronavirus, as mongers can safely get their marshmallows sucked through a hole in the wall.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2463346]" Lorenzana claimed that the World Health Organization predicted that the coronavirus would have killed almost 7,000 Filipinos in the first three months of the lockdown, with cases reaching as high as 75,000. As of yesterday, the country has 38,085 reported COVID-19 cases, with 1,274 deaths and 10,673 recoveries. ".
Philippines government remains glass half full on its fight with COVID, I think they might push for reopening their economy sooner than "worst case".
Since the cases don't reflect the worst case scenario, I think we see them experiment with reopening despite the rising number of infected cases. Regardless of it being bad or not as bad, public sentiment and the liability placed on local government and business owners keeps this lockdown firmly in place.[/QUOTE]MM,
You seem obsessed with this matter and truly believe in Santa. Where in all this stuff does it say 'tourist visas will be issued' or even better 'tourist visas will be issued without the tourist going to mandatory quarantine and pay for it'.
Get real, while the figures are better than the USA (but all countries are) this does not seem to be a sensible way to try and persuade the Philippine government to let you back to the country to help your MSB (massive sperm build up) problem.
Hopefully can get a refund for whatever ticket / hotel you have booked as most mongers I speak to are planning 2 Q 2021 before they go back.
Read the sensible reports from other posters about the situation on the ground and then out that into your crystal ball please.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2463346]
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"Lorenzana claims COVID-19 cases have 'plateaued'; 80% of PH to be on MGCQ on July 16".
[URL]https://coconuts.co/manila/news/lorenzana-claims-covid-19-cases-have-plateaued-80-of-ph-to-be-on-mgcq-on-july-16/[/URL][/QUOTE]I think that there is a misunderstanding what MGCQ means. It allows limited openings, service industries at limited capacity, it still does not allow under 20 and over 60 free travel.
It does not allow free inter-provincial travel.
It definitely does not allow international arrivals.
My guess is that we will not have easy travel around the country until late in this year and no international tourist arrivals until sometime mid 2021. This may change drastically if a vaccine, or cure, or preventative medicine becomes widely available.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2463402]....unless upper class Pinays start selling pussy to old foreign mongers for some odd reason.[/QUOTE]I don't think the upper class madams who live in gated communities like Forbes Park would be too interested in a white, septuagenarian monger's shrivelled cock. Those HiSo Pinays don't value the US passport nor the promise of eternal riches in RWML too highly. They have it all already. In fact, to be seen in Manila with a white monger would be social suicide for them. The average monger still needs to trawl through thousands of profiles on PL, FC or DIA for a low class root with a dirt poor nincompoop. In any case, it is all rather academic since no monger, unless already in Flipsville, is going to taste brown pussy any time soon. The Wuhan Reaper has put an end to all such fantasies. I don't know why they are wasting so much time on dating sites since it will yield zero results. A box of Kleenex and endless re-runs of Trike Patrol, [URL]Slopebang.com[/URL] or [URL]Pinayot.com[/URL] will have to do for the next year or two. At least those mongers will soon have forearms like Popeye! Hahahaha.
To all the guys not in the Philippines who are desperately checking ISG Phils thread daily to see when you can get back here as quickly as possible:
Let me assure you that you don't want to be here right now despite having 100's of girls on line offering you all manner of promises for what you will be able to do with and to them when you get here (for a price of course).
Most shops are still closed. Very few people around, and those locals that are around are very leery of foreigners (since they are known carriers of deadly international germs LOL).
Most hotels have strict quarantine provisions so you will not be having an endless stream of visitors. Condos have strict regulations for visitors, and every barangay council has its own set of rules. For example, if you are over 60 you can walk down one street but if you cross the road into another barangay you can be stopped and fined. You can also be fined if you don't wear a mask, and the locals will quickly report you too.
The new terrorism bill passed last week makes it much easier for LE to charge foreigners for any sort of misadventure (even if it's an accident). Don't believe any desperate women who say that everything is OK now. It's not.
My regular massage woman wants me to let her come to my condo even though my condo is relaxing visitor rules from this weekend, but I know she lives in one of the hot-spot areas and I don't want her in my place getting all close and personal right now. She has not been tested but she assures me she has not had any contact with the virus.
Of course she doesn't know that.
Thankfully I have my own condo and I haven't moved further than 2 blocks from home in the past month and don't plan to do so.
Life in PH now is very much different to how it used to be in February 2020.
Cool your jets guys. Take cold showers and resign yourself to the fact that you shouldn't come to the Phils for at least 3 or 4 more months.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2463871]Cool your jets guys. Take cold showers and resign yourself to the fact that you shouldn't come to the Phils for at least 3 or 4 more months.[/QUOTE]Nice common sense report RK. Some just don't get it. They will read the attached link from the Inquire today and think life is back to normal but they won't read the last part of the article that says they can't enter. Plus if over 60 as some are they spend lots of cash to sit in a hotel alone eating pinoy food (assuming they can get in!) LMFAO.
[URL]https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1301972/miaa-intl-flights-to-resume-july-8[/URL]
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2463871]
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Cool your jets guys. Take cold showers and resign yourself to the fact that you shouldn't come to the Phils for at least 3 or 4 more months.[/QUOTE]I think you are a little optimistic there RK. My guess, and it is just a guess, is that we will be under some form of community quarantine until after that. Internal movement will remain difficult until into the New year.
If a vaccine was discovered today, one that was 100% effective and safe. It would take at least several months for it to be rolled out and administered to sufficient people world wide to allow a return to a semblance of normal.
The lingering economic impact will last until well into 2021 if not into 2022.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2464060]I think you are a little optimistic there RK. My guess, and it is just a guess, is that we will be under some form of community quarantine until after that. Internal movement will remain difficult until into the New year.
If a vaccine was discovered today, one that was 100% effective and safe. It would take at least several months for it to be rolled out and administered to sufficient people world wide to allow a return to a semblance of normal.
The lingering economic impact will last until well into 2021 if not into 2022.[/QUOTE]I think the keyword here is "guess" none of us have a clue right now. As things are loosening up slightly it could go the other way as it has in Cebu. Only time will tell.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2464067]I think the keyword here is "guess" none of us have a clue right now. As things are loosening up slightly it could go the other way as it has in Cebu. Only time will tell.[/QUOTE]In mid June I was expecting Cebu City to go to MGCQ and to see some areas on new normal. The reversion of Cebu City to ECQ was unexpected as I thought the worse would be stay as it was.
I would be happy under MGCQ if the dive operato0 rs were open and the over 60 restriction was not enforced.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2464094]In mid June I was expecting Cebu City to go to MGCQ and to see some areas on new normal. The reversion of Cebu City to ECQ was unexpected as I thought the worse would be stay as it was.
I would be happy under MGCQ if the dive operato0 rs were open and the over 60 restriction was not enforced.[/QUOTE]The Barretto bars are starting to open. The over 60 crowd seem to be moving freely as that is the majority of the expats that live here. How many under 60 retirees in Barretto 7 or 9? Nine people can't support the bars LOL. Travel from AC has been relaxed but even still there won't be many customers. It was slow before the travel ban and Covid thing. Beer prices went up as the government imposed a tax rate increase but I don't think that extra 10 pesos is going to deter very many. There will be about 10 of the regular bars open by tomorrow. I guess this will be interesting. Stay tuned.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2463871]To all the guys not in the Philippines who are desperately checking ISG Phils thread daily to see when you can get back here as quickly as possible:
Let me assure you that you don't want to be here right now despite having 100's of girls on line offering you all manner of promises for what you will be able to do with and to them when you get here (for a price of course).
Most shops are still closed. Very few people around, and those locals that are around are very leery of foreigners (since they are known carriers of deadly international germs LOL).
Most hotels have strict quarantine provisions so you will not be having an endless stream of visitors. Condos have strict regulations for visitors, and every barangay council has its own set of rules. For example, if you are over 60 you can walk down one street but if you cross the road into another barangay you can be stopped and fined. You can also be fined if you don't wear a mask, and the locals will quickly report you too.
The new terrorism bill passed last week makes it much easier for LE to charge foreigners for any sort of misadventure (even if it's an accident). Don't believe any desperate women who say that everything is OK now. It's not.
My regular massage woman wants me to let her come to my condo even though my condo is relaxing visitor rules from this weekend, but I know she lives in one of the hot-spot areas and I don't want her in my place getting all close and personal right now. She has not been tested but she assures me she has not had any contact with the virus.
Of course she doesn't know that.
Thankfully I have my own condo and I haven't moved further than 2 blocks from home in the past month and don't plan to do so.
Life in PH now is very much different to how it used to be in February 2020.
Cool your jets guys. Take cold showers and resign yourself to the fact that you shouldn't come to the Phils for at least 3 or 4 more months.[/QUOTE]Well written, balanced report. I left AC in February to do some stuff in the USA, first trip back in years. We are seeing re-lockdowns here, but I can still go outside, ride a city bus to Walmart and shop, no check points, etc. IMHO, there is no perfect place in the new COV-idiocy world. It is what it is; I'm in the USA now and I'm OK with it. My next stop will probably be Mexico, Lake Chapala.
Hello all,
I've happily been locked-down in London with my lovely girl from Fields. Fortunately she arrived for a holiday pre-covid and is happy to stay put for a while here. I've been enjoying all-access on-tap for the duration. So I've got no complaints. For sure may send her back at some point. However, I'm wondering if I might spice things up a little and try to find another couple who are in a similar situation. I would be open to a bit of same room fun or similar adventure. Covid safe of course. Does anyone have any tips on where one might find gents with their 'Subic / Fields / Makati' girlfriends in London UK? Maybe there could possibly be some well-known cafes or restaurants? Any tips welcome.
[QUOTE=HookLineSinker;2464228]Hello all,
I've happily been locked-down in London with my lovely girl from Fields. Fortunately she arrived for a holiday pre-covid and is happy to stay put for a while here. I've been enjoying all-access on-tap for the duration. So I've got no complaints. For sure may send her back at some point. However, I'm wondering if I might spice things up a little and try to find another couple who are in a similar situation. I would be open to a bit of same room fun or similar adventure. Covid safe of course. Does anyone have any tips on where one might find gents with their 'Subic / Fields / Makati' girlfriends in London UK? Maybe there could possibly be some well-known cafes or restaurants? Any tips welcome.[/QUOTE]How about getting her to join ex-pat filfipina groups in London?
[QUOTE=HookLineSinker;2464228]Hello all,
I've happily been locked-down in London with my lovely girl from Fields. Fortunately she arrived for a holiday pre-covid and is happy to stay put for a while here. I've been enjoying all-access on-tap for the duration. So I've got no complaints. For sure may send her back at some point. However, I'm wondering if I might spice things up a little and try to find another couple who are in a similar situation. I would be open to a bit of same room fun or similar adventure. Covid safe of course. Does anyone have any tips on where one might find gents with their 'Subic / Fields / Makati' girlfriends in London UK? Maybe there could possibly be some well-known cafes or restaurants? Any tips welcome.[/QUOTE]What happened to the Thai muffer you were passing round here? [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2288354[/URL]#post2288354 Maybe she could give some pointers as most of us are not up to your standards. Good luck with the well-known cafes or restaurants, which seem tailor made for a Playboy fantasy letter. Lots of Pinays hanging about London cafes waiting on Covid geriatrics to hump them. No doubt your little tiger is straining to let loose and spread her love juices all over London. Good win by Spurs tonight. I'd say Messi will stay at Barca. I bet she loves chocolate, and marshmallows of course.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2464367]How about getting her to join ex-pat filfipina groups in London?[/QUOTE]Thanks Pilot. We gave the expat social communities a try, but I found that generally people are a little more reserved once out of country.
I will keep looking. Thanks anyhow.
It seems that Pedro is a little frustrated about life. Poor little fella.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2464367]How about getting her to join ex-pat filfipina groups in London?[/QUOTE]Thanks PilotP. I've pointed her in the direction of social communities, but I'm finding that the other Filipina exports are rather conservative. But will keep trying there.
Thanks for the input too Pedro. Noted!
Great report re the state of the Philippines.
We were there in February and had a great time.
I guess patience is what everyone needs right now.
Here in lovely Melbourne things seem to get more crazy by the day.
Stay safe.
Cheers,
Lwd.
[QUOTE=BillyBaht;2464227]Well written, balanced report. I left AC in February to do some stuff in the USA, first trip back in years. We are seeing re-lockdowns here, but I can still go outside, ride a city bus to Walmart and shop, no check points, etc. IMHO, there is no perfect place in the new COV-idiocy world. It is what it is; I'm in the USA now and I'm OK with it. My next stop will probably be Mexico, Lake Chapala.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2463141]Yes. All of Manila (that's "old" Manila inc Malate, Ermita, Paco, Binondo, Intramuros and Tondo) are seeing large spikes in infections.
I definitely wouldn't be liaising with anyone from those areas.
The other problem you might encounter is that those areas may well be totally locked-down by the time you are in the NCR. The Mayor Isko Mareno was on TV earlier syaing that he was thinking he will have to do that because of the infection rates.[/QUOTE]OK Noted!
I will try to avoid girls from those places, so far I only have 1 from Tondo and 1 from Malate.
Most of my friends are from Makati, Taguig, Pasay, Pasig, Sta Ana (is Sta Ana consider old Manila), And also many of my friends are from Quezon City, which they said is not far to Makati by train (20 to 30 minutes trip). All of them are willing to meet me in Makati, but of course that's if it stays in GCQ, but if it goes back to ECQ and people need passes, then only the ones with a working pass will be able to come and meet me in Makati. I'm not naive of course, I know some of them will cancel or change their minds, but with my experience I know is a number games, the more contacts I have the more chances. So far is been working in Cebu and now is been working here in Negros during covid, so let's see how it goes in Manila. I know for sure in Manila there are more and more fishes in the sea.
Anyways I decided to delay my trip for a third time, I will go to Manila on end of August instead, just 2 weeks before my flight back to Canada.
So hopefully these lately increase of virus cases doesn't get worse, and it improves by the end of August. As long as it stays in GCQ I should be fine.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2464830]
So hopefully these lately increase of virus cases doesn't get worse, and it improves by the end of August. As long as it stays in GCQ I should be fine.[/QUOTE]FYI.
Cases are still getting worse but it seems the Gov might put NCR on MGCQ and just let it all hang out.
Problem then will be that the hospitals will be swamped.
The MRT3 was suspended yesterday until further notice because a hot-spot emerged within the admins running the system as well as a few drivers. Closed until further notice.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2463871] My regular massage woman wants me to let her come to my condo even though my condo is relaxing visitor rules from this weekend, but I know she lives in one of the hot-spot areas and I don't want her in my place getting all close and personal right now. She has not been tested but she assures me she has not had any contact with the virus.
Thankfully I have my own condo and I haven't moved further than 2 blocks from home in the past month and don't plan to do so.
Life in PH now is very much different to how it used to be in February 2020.[/QUOTE]You probably already know this but if you are over 60, you cannot go out at all. You are a prisoner in your own residence! Seems like this order will stay in place indefinitely.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2464830]
Anyways I decided to delay my trip for a third time, I will go to Manila on end of August instead, just 2 weeks before my flight back to Canada.
So hopefully these lately increase of virus cases doesn't get worse, and it improves by the end of August. As long as it stays in GCQ I should be fine.[/QUOTE]Whenever you plan to fly, better bring your patience. Flights get canceled left and right. Friends have been trying to fly out of Cebu and Manila and their flights are getting canceled. If you have a layover somewhere like HKG or SIN, that presents another set of problems. Good luck next month!
[QUOTE=BukoMax;2465227]You probably already know this but if you are over 60, you cannot go out at all. You are a prisoner in your own residence! Seems like this order will stay in place indefinitely.[/QUOTE]You can go out for essential travel or to work in permitted industries.
I am hopeful that this will be relaxed soon, they appear to be relaxing the rules as we go. For example back riding on a motorcycle will be allowed for couples who live together starting today.
[QUOTE=BukoMax;2465234]Whenever you plan to fly, better bring your patience. Flights get canceled left and right. Friends have been trying to fly out of Cebu and Manila and their flights are getting canceled. If you have a layover somewhere like HKG or SIN, that presents another set of problems. Good luck next month![/QUOTE]I am guessing well into 2021 before recreational non citizen arrivals will be allowed again. Even then expect quarantine and people who have been in some places where the virus is still rampant to be banned. It may be late 2021 or even into 2022 before you will be able to arrive without pre-clearence, walk out the airport, into a cab and be fucking a girl within the hour again.
[QUOTE=BukoMax;2465227]You probably already know this but if you are over 60, you cannot go out at all. You are a prisoner in your own residence! Seems like this order will stay in place indefinitely.[/QUOTE]This is not being enforced BM.
There were always exceptions to that rule (like getting meds, groceries etc).
I am well over 60 and I can freely walk around outside my condo in Ortigas nowadays to go to the nearby mall and assorted coffee shops.
Nobody is concerned about that now if you are following all the necessary protocols.
I am staying close to home though, and wearing the mask, washing hands and staying at least a meter away from most other citizens.
[QUOTE=BukoMax;2465234]Whenever you plan to fly, better bring your patience. Flights get canceled left and right. Friends have been trying to fly out of Cebu and Manila and their flights are getting canceled. If you have a layover somewhere like HKG or SIN, that presents another set of problems. Good luck next month![/QUOTE]I wouldn't mind if my flight to Canada gets cancel and I have to change my flight for afew weeks or a month once I'm in Manila, because it will mean I get to have more sex whitout my GF with me, she will be in Negros of course.
I don't think there will be a problem going to Manila from Negros, I have a foreigner friend who went to Manila from Negros last week (he needed to catch his flight to USA) and he text me that he didn't do a 14 days quarantine when he arrived in Manila, I guess leaving from a province with very low cases is fine. As oppose to coming from Manila to Negros, I have 2 friends who had to do quarantine when they arrived, the one I hook up with did a quarentine at a elementary school for 10 days until her test result came back negative, but the other one did a 14 days quarantine at a hotel and then on her barangay had to do another quarantine, which I found it suspicious why she had to do 2 quarantines in a row, she said her barangay ask her to do a home quarantine and that her neighbors are afraid of her and descriminate her. She ask me for patience and to wait for her so we can meet once she completes her home quarantine, but to be honest I'm thinking not to meet her just to be safe. I feel bad for her but I need to think for myself first.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2465544]She ask me for patience and to wait for her so we can meet once she completes her home quarantine, but to be honest I'm thinking not to meet her just to be safe. I feel bad for her but I need to think for myself first.[/QUOTE]That's counter intuitive. The girl is safer than anyone because she has been in a low risk quarantine for 28 days. Safer than a random girl from malate.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2465249]You can go out for essential travel or to work in permitted industries.
I am hopeful that this will be relaxed soon, they appear to be relaxing the rules as we go. For example back riding on a motorcycle will be allowed for couples who live together starting today.[/QUOTE]Like RK, I'm well over 60 and haven't yet had a problem with this. I drive frequently to go to malls, go grocery shopping and to do normal errands and all I've ever been asked for is the pass.
GE.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2465295]I am staying close to home though, and wearing the mask, washing hands and staying at least a meter away from most other citizens.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a great time. LOL.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2465561]That's counter intuitive. The girl is safer than anyone because she has been in a low risk quarantine for 28 days. Safer than a random girl from malate.[/QUOTE]CDC came out with a advice to all sexually active people. (Aren't we all).
1. No kissing.
2. Keep your mask on.
3. No heavy breathing.
4. They are doing studies to see if semen and vaginal secretions contain virus.
5. No cuddling.
6. After sex get rid of the girl and spray and sanitize everything. (My guidelines).
Recap / update. Previously I think I reported my two regular girls here went into hiding at the lockdown point. Fear and superstition seemed to grip the brgys where they lived. Thru a referral and other means, after about 2 lonely weeks I garnered two new young ladies. Each spending two nights (or afternoons) a week for the last several months. They seem to have become regulars, and I've been happy with getting my dong whistled 3-4-5 times a week. While there isn't a lot to do, everything was running smoothly (absent getting fresh meat regularly). Then one of the new girls dropped out of the race: "Westy I want better mom to my son". Sure, sweetie, I do COMPLETELY understand. Hate to see your sexy at ass walk away.
Down to one girl. What to do? Increase her nights each week? Hmmm. But it wasn't necessary. The morning after the mom told me that she wasn't coming back, one of my previous regulars txt, asking to stop by. Like it was ordained by the Gods (or by San Miguel). Sure, but thought you were afraid to leave the Brgy. "Nobody working now. I need to back to you. We can meet?" Well, that led to her filling in the exact scheduled spots of the gal who wants to be a better mom. See how I like to help in these situations? Fam is everything.
That was a week ago. Parts is parts and things is good. Then today the other previous regular girl sent a txt: "I can back to you now?" Ah, sh*t, a fly in the ointment. I am happy with the current schedule. Do I bring her back into the fold? Do I let her phantastic ass (showcased in the PG) decide this for me? Or her deepthroat ability? We meet tomorrow to discuss the matter.
Regarding lockdown in general. Miss the nightlife and drinking holes. I get more sleep than before. Getting laid regular is good. Agnes on Monday and Friday evenings, Mary on Wednesday evening and Saturday afternoon is good. Might be room for some deepthroat on Sunday afternoons. Que sera, sera.
Despite all the dreamers on the board thinking that by July things would, or was it August (things don't really change and pandemic is more important. This from the Philstar newspaper.
[URL]https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/07/18/2028766/foreigners-long-term-visas-can-enter-philippines[/URL]
Maybe of SSRV you can but those looking for a week or two of non stop shagging to relieve the tension in their nuts best play at home, with themselves of go to a country that allows you to party LOL.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2467733]....
Maybe of SSRV you can but those looking for a week or two of non stop shagging to relieve the tension in their nuts best play at home, with themselves of go to a country that allows you to party LOL.[/QUOTE]
Still not clear on how long quarantine will be necessary, until a negative test result or 14 days? I am thinking that negative test result per RKs recent return but this is the Philippines and the rules change often and without notice.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2467759]Still not clear on how long quarantine will be necessary, until a negative test result or 14 days? I am thinking that negative test result per RKs recent return but this is the Philippines and the rules change often and without notice.[/QUOTE]I agree.
But in the end the basic monger tourist is not allowed into the country as yet despite some on the board seemingly dreaming or hoping that it will LOL. Am sure I read somewhere that the President was saying not much back to normal before a vaccine. Sort of a given but at least he was very clear (assuming he said it).
Looks like the blue ball brigade need to wait longer KG.
[QUOTE=RickRock;2465700]Sounds like a great time. LOL.[/QUOTE]It is for me RR.
I live in a clean zone in Manila close to 6 big malls with a FT job on an international salary and I work on my own time from my home office.
Why wouldn't I be having a good time?
Plenty of coffee shops and restaurants open too.
Unlike many guys on this site, I don't measure good times by counting the number of uneducated, asymptomatic Covid-carrying women I can meet and get up-close and personal with. The sensible ones are staying away from foreigners that they don't know and likewise, I am staying away from the women who I don't know either and who probably come primarily from covid hot spots.
With the increased unavailability of hospital beds in Manila now (they are putting infected people in makeshift beds in hospital corridors), I am perfectly happy to stay home and lie low.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2467802]I am perfectly happy to stay home and lie low.[/QUOTE]I've nominated flying below the radar as the solution to many different problems in Asia: uncomfortable questions from home; avoiding rampaging psycho pinas; guest access to apartments etc. I never thought it could be a literal life saver but for incountry residents I fear RK is right and it very well maybe.
Cheers. G.
Watch this guy in yellow get a slug to the head and shuffle off his coil. The others just rob his bike and drive off. Duterte wants these guys to reap as they sow. For me, it makes bonking the LBFM gfs a little less attractive as I don't want my head pierced Pinoy style.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06pwTDwKBDU[/URL]
We don't know when. But for my return trip I"m thinking I would do this:
A) One week prior hit Pinalove to find my airport reception pinay plus leads in planned cities.
B) Arrive into Cebu for a 2-3 day refamiliarisation and met at airport by a).
C) Flight to Surigao to visit my mate and his GF, find local girls for play.
D) Select one girl to retain for 4 day island hopping.
E) More provincial city play 2-3 days.
F) Leyte (new city experience) 2-3 days.
G) Angeles City 3-4 days (visit old work mates).
H) Manila 2-3 days and farewell back to Oz.
That's how I'll spend by next 3 weeks back in the country.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2469614]We don't know when. But for my return trip I"m thinking I would do this:
A) One week prior hit Pinalove to find my airport reception pinay plus leads in planned cities.
B) Arrive into Cebu for a 2-3 day refamiliarisation and met at airport by a).
C) Flight to Surigao to visit my mate and his GF, find local girls for play.
D) Select one girl to retain for 4 day island hopping.
E) More provincial city play 2-3 days.
F) Leyte (new city experience) 2-3 days.
G) Angeles City 3-4 days (visit old work mates).
H) Manila 2-3 days and farewell back to Oz.
That's how I'll spend by next 3 weeks back in the country.[/QUOTE]Basically yes but don't over plan nor over think the trip. Pinas are notoriously late or even no shows and you want to retain flexibility. Also, provincial girls may be reluctant to be seen entering a hotel, at a moments notice, with an unknown white guy. She will be noticed and her friends and family will be informed. Many guys prefer to bus in from nearby towns to ensure anonymity for the girls. Remember PL doesn't distinguish between Cebu CITY and Cebu PROVINCE eg Santander and Daanbantayan in Cebu Province are at least 3 hours from Cebu City. Even more by rattling jeepney.
I've had far more success by contacting girls once I'm in country rather than planning to meet in a couple of weeks.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2467875]I've nominated flying below the radar .[/QUOTE][QUOTE=RedKilt;2467802]It is for me RR.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=GoodEnough;2465686]Like RK, I'm well over 60 and haven't yet had a problem with this. .[/QUOTE]When the big head starts taking control. As they say, better to live and fight another day. I do basically similar things. It is amazing the amount of misleading information from reputable sources out there. Kind of sad. A personal balance / bubble hopefully will keep one safe and happy and not negatively impact others. Phillipines will most likely get worse. Those with options will probably fly back to countries where first vaccines will be available before returning.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2469923]When the big head starts taking control. As they say, better to live and fight another day. I do basically similar things. It is amazing the amount of misleading information from reputable sources out there. Kind of sad. g.[/QUOTE]I sense from your post that there is an acceptance that the very things we like about PH and pinay are the same traits that are causing the virus to linger in Ph. Those attitudes around rules being for others and there is always a way to bribe your way through a checkpoints. And that's only if the checkpoint if still active after the first few days of establishment. They probably do not have structure to suppress the community transmission.
Things I saw in the past week:
" a declaration of nucleic acid test for COVID-19 and that the result of that test was negative" - counterfeit available for P25.
"list of covid test charges in Manila". I doubt that many pinoy will be paying P3,500 for a covid test unless it's covered by Philhealth. Without free testing the most likely candidates for community transmission will continue spreading it.
Got to find a new normal for a while.
Hey Moderator, What is with the new Adult Friend Finder pop up adds that I just experienced on this web site after I logged in and clicked on new reports. They are very annoying! I wouldn't fuck those girls if you paid me $1000 per ****. I will quit posting and reading the ISG if these disgusting pop up adds can't be prevented.
A new low!
I am using Bit Defender Total Security. Edge or Firefox Browsers with the AdBlocker Ultimate attachment. I still get these annoying pop up adds unless I apply the strictest controls on AdBlocker for the ISG website in which case no more pop ups, but also only a skeleton view of the ISG forum that is difficult to navigate and read.
I will try NordVPN next. Perhaps that will eliminate the problem.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2470285]Hey Moderator, What is with the new Adult Friend Finder pop up adds that I just experienced on this web site after I logged in and clicked on new reports. They are very annoying! I wouldn't fuck those girls if you paid me $1000 per ****. I will quit posting and reading the ISG if these disgusting pop up adds can't be prevented.
A new low![/QUOTE]It happens on all threads, don't know why you've singled out Phils to complain about it.
I can still read the indexes OK, I just ignore the ads. Maybe they need the money to pay for the server, access, etc.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2470285]Hey Moderator, What is with the new Adult Friend Finder pop up adds that I just experienced on this web site after I logged in and clicked on new reports. They are very annoying! I wouldn't fuck those girls if you paid me $1000 per ****. I will quit posting and reading the ISG if these disgusting pop up adds can't be prevented. A new low![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2470415]It happens on all threads, don't know why you've singled out Phils to complain about it. I can still read the indexes OK, I just ignore the ads.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I complained about pop-ups a year or two prior, and then later they just stopped. Have not seen a pop-up until 15 minutes ago, I get a blank browser page that pops up on my computer anytime I click on the Phils PhotoGallery link (and so far, only that link). The PG opens in the original page, and a new blank page pops up. Will try it on a different browser. Have never seen ads like the one that NB has posted. Interesting.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2470415]Maybe they need the money to pay for the server, access, etc.[/QUOTE]Most likely. The site lost its ability to accept credit card payments a year or two prior. Now accepting bitcoin, just wondering how many members have a bitcoin account (versus how many have a CC).
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2470264]I sense from your post that there is an acceptance that the very things we like about PH and pinay are the same traits that are causing the virus to linger in Ph. Those attitudes around rules being for others and there is always a way to bribe your way through a checkpoints. And that's only if the checkpoint if still active after the first few days of establishment. They probably do not have structure to suppress the community transmission.[/QUOTE]Covid19 will linger for a while. It is not unique to PI. It will be in US and UK for a while longer, even with a vaccine. Will those against measles vaccine take a Covid19 vaccine?
Dear all.
Don't know if this is the right forum to ask but a friend of mine who has a proper daytime job wants to earn a bit of cash on the side and is planning to do a paid video chat. Does anyone know of a site that she could sign up and register her services?
As it's in the Middle East she prefers to keep this extremely discreet. She is personal trainer and is struggling to make ends meet at the moment due to Covid-19.
Thanks a lot.
G.
P.S. : will be posting the same query on a few pages so please ignore if you have read this as a repeat.
[QUOTE=Gunners1;2470469]Dear all.
Don't know if this is the right forum to ask but a friend of mine who has a proper daytime job wants to earn a bit of cash on the side and is planning to do a paid video chat. Does anyone know of a site that she could sign up and register her services?
As it's in the Middle East she prefers to keep this extremely discreet. She is personal trainer and is struggling to make ends meet at the moment due to Covid-19.
Thanks a lot.
G.
P.S. : will be posting the same query on a few pages so please ignore if you have read this as a repeat.[/QUOTE]I would think she needs to define what countries she wants to market in? Also figured out how she will get paid? Pesos won't go very far in Dubai.
Good luck to her.
[QUOTE=Gunners1;2470469]
Don't know if this is the right forum to ask but a friend of mine who has a proper daytime job wants to earn a bit of cash on the side and is planning to do a paid video chat. Does anyone know of a site that she could sign up and register her services?
[/QUOTE]I would suggest she doesn't need the cesspit that would exist on those site. She just needs a handful of local contacts that will pay for what she does.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2470420]Most likely. The site lost its ability to accept credit card payments a year or two prior. Now accepting bitcoin, just wondering how many members have a bitcoin account (versus how many have a CC).[/QUOTE]Yeah and the sanctimonious muvvers at PayPal veto this kind of site. This policy must cost them a lot of revenue as porn and its various side-shoots are legion on the web.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2470543]I would suggest she doesn't need the cesspit that would exist on those site. She just needs a handful of local contacts that will pay for what she does.[/QUOTE]Why would anyone pay to videochat with a local girl, when they could just drive right over? Makes no sense to me. Yet I was fucking with a chick here in Pattaya who said there were guys here in town paying her for that exact same thing. Go figure.
[QUOTE=Gunners1;2470469]Dear all.
Don't know if this is the right forum to ask but a friend of mine who has a proper daytime job wants to earn a bit of cash on the side and is planning to do a paid video chat. Does anyone know of a site that she could sign up and register her services?
As it's in the Middle East she prefers to keep this extremely discreet. She is personal trainer and is struggling to make ends meet at the moment due to Covid-19.
Thanks a lot.
G.
P.S. : will be posting the same query on a few pages so please ignore if you have read this as a repeat.[/QUOTE]Ask your friend to registered with [URL]Chaturbate.com[/URL] and she will be paid by tokens which is transferred to her CC thereafter.
Thanks for feedback.
She is actually based in Qatar.
G.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2470567]Why would anyone pay to videochat with a local girl, when they could just drive right over? Makes no sense to me. Yet I was fucking with a chick here in Pattaya who said there were guys here in town paying her for that exact same thing. Go figure.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2470567]Why would anyone pay to videochat with a local girl, when they could just drive right over? Makes no sense to me. Yet I was fucking with a chick here in Pattaya who said there were guys here in town paying her for that exact same thing. Go figure.[/QUOTE]Why not? Guys give women money to dance without touching them. Guys give women money without even that. Some guys give money to women just for breathing. A sucker is born every minute, and he's soon parted with his dough.
[QUOTE=Gunners1;2470577]Thanks for feedback.
She is actually based in Qatar.
G.[/QUOTE]I don't watch or perform. So I am just guessing. I suspect there are web sites that will host her and handle transactions for a fee. They will probably advise her on payment methods if they do not offer the service. Laws have changed so the operators and performers have to work with it.
Location should not matter. Buy her a VPN to try. It will hide her location.
I think she wants to perform at her private set. Just Google sex webcam sites and see how they do it. Over the years, there are many documentaries on such performers. It shows just the performers and not the back office that handles the details. The details are usually beyond the abilities of the performers.
Have any paid up members figured out how to turn off these PITA popups upon login?
G.
[QUOTE=Gunners1;2470469]Dear all.
Don't know if this is the right forum to ask but a friend of mine who has a proper daytime job wants to earn a bit of cash on the side and is planning to do a paid video chat. Does anyone know of a site that she could sign up and register her services?
As it's in the Middle East she prefers to keep this extremely discreet. She is personal trainer and is struggling to make ends meet at the moment due to Covid-19.
Thanks a lot.
G.
P.S. : will be posting the same query on a few pages so please ignore if you have read this as a repeat.[/QUOTE]Live Jasmin is the place to begin, not here. Why would people here have any idea of it as it seems a real pussy prison deal and a real last resort for folk who post here? My only connection is bonking hookers who do Live Jasmin as they found it pays well, flexible hours etc and English is a huge advantage. Go fishing in those waters. They have a rating deal where the women see your rating and if you are worth dealing with. If you are a big tipper, expect a harder come on. Faking her address should not be a major issue but she does look clueless.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2470629]Have any paid up members figured out how to turn off these PITA popups upon login?
G.[/QUOTE]Seems to be have new this week. Try checking your popup blocker settings.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2470488]I would think she needs to define what countries she wants to market in? Also figured out how she will get paid? Pesos won't go very far in Dubai.
Good luck to her.[/QUOTE]Funny thing is the peso has been very strong recently. Maybe blueballs behind screens are more generous than beer drinking walkers in wife beaters.
Or vice versa.
If the girl does in country with the payer, there are usually real time payment options outside western controlled networks. Wells Fargo and Pinkerton should be avoided nowadays.
In Asia, there are several e-wallets that will work. She can use that for Asian clients.
Try uBlock Origin.
[QUOTE=Gunners1;2470577]Thanks for feedback.
She is actually based in Qatar.
G.[/QUOTE]Google is your friend. I started thinking this would be great for one of the girls I know who does modeling. There is actually a wikihow that is a good starting point. Google.
How to become a Webcam Model.
Then read. It is kind of interesting. The challenge is to keep all the money and how to receive payments.
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8569887/OnlyFans-lets-young-women-make-small-fortune-posting-pornographic-videos-subscribers.html[/URL]
Saw this this morning over my morning coffee. Really, that type of crap does not belong here, though it seems to be very popular. There are obviously entire armies of women at this and it is all about market niche. As the internet is global, I am sure the niche market is huge. Thus crap has been ongoing since the days of the dirty phone calls on premium numbers. Like so much more, if you are not involved, you don't know. On the odd occasion I looked at a tabloid, it used to amaze me the amount of ads for dirty phone calls and I knew a mentally disturbed guy who blew a lot of money on it. (I was banging his wife, a cleaner, helping her with be ills and orgasms).
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2470631]Live Jasmin is the place to begin, not here. Why would people here have any idea of it as it seems a real pussy prison deal and a real last resort for folk who post here? My only connection is bonking hookers who do Live Jasmin as they found it pays well, flexible hours etc and English is a huge advantage. Go fishing in those waters. They have a rating deal where the women see your rating and if you are worth dealing with. If you are a big tipper, expect a harder come on. Faking her address should not be a major issue but she does look clueless.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gunners1;2470469]Dear all.
Don't know if this is the right forum to ask but a friend of mine who has a proper daytime job wants to earn a bit of cash on the side and is planning to do a paid video chat. Does anyone know of a site that she could sign up and register her services?
As it's in the Middle East she prefers to keep this extremely discreet. She is personal trainer and is struggling to make ends meet at the moment due to Covid-19.
Thanks a lot.
G.[/QUOTE]If she wants to be discrete she's unlikely to want to go direct to a cam site for all to see.
Why not just go on Cupid or Seeking Arrangement and filter the guys for idiots or location? She could even use a fake but similar profile pic to draw in the punters. Many girls there are offering paid camming either on a pay per view basis or informally after a 'gift'. My suggestion would be for her to just be forthright, explain what she is doing and why she is online. If she is attractive and outgoing she will soon build up a paying support base.
I'm not a user but I think most of the girls use PayPal or similar so she will need an account etc to be able set that up.
If she wants more info PM me and I can put you / her in touch with other girls who are using this method and they can discuss amongst themselves the benefits and pitfalls.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2470420]Interesting. I complained about pop-ups a year or two prior, and then later they just stopped. Have not seen a pop-up until 15 minutes ago, I get a blank browser page that pops up on my computer anytime I click on the Phils PhotoGallery link (and so far, only that link). The PG opens in the original page, and a new blank page pops up. Will try it on a different browser. Have never seen ads like the one that NB has posted. Interesting.[/QUOTE]Update. The previous blank browser page popup now has an image, for Adult Friend Finder. This started about a week ago for me.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2471134]Update. The previous blank browser page popup now has an image, for Adult Friend Finder. This started about a week ago for me.[/QUOTE]Seems a good way to learn Dutch in your case. Probably helps pay bandwidth bills and less intrusive than other sites which are almost impossible to use.
Same for me on mobile at least, from time to time.
They corkscrew? I mean, who knew. Right?
[URL]https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/sperm-fooled-scientists-350-years-130440224.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Bushes;2470743]Google is your friend. I started thinking this would be great for one of the girls I know who does modeling. There is actually a wikihow that is a good starting point. Google.
How to become a Webcam Model.
Then read. It is kind of interesting. The challenge is to keep all the money and how to receive payments.[/QUOTE]I got a solicitation from an acquaintance who does know some who ply the trade. She said that she heard some get merchant mobile wallets. Interesting but might get around several issues.
It appears that mongers will not be visiting Flipsville anytime soon for BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIMWS.
[URL]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/philippines-closes-indonesia-se-asian-covid-19-cases-200803134640402.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2472715]It appears that mongers will not be visiting Flipsville anytime soon for BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIMWS.
[URL]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/philippines-closes-indonesia-se-asian-covid-19-cases-200803134640402.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow 3,400+ new cases yesterday alone in Phils. That rockets Phils up to #24 on the [URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries[/URL] website, by total cases.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2473046]Wow 3,400+ new cases yesterday alone in Phils. That rockets Phils up to #24 on the [URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries[/URL] website, by total cases.[/QUOTE]There are likely tens of thousands or more cases.
Even with widespread testing conservative estimates say the US probably has 10 times more infections than the number of confirmed cases.
Most people don't know they're infected. Especially people under sixty without concurrent illness.
The latest stats out of the US CDC say just 100 of 100,000 people who get infected will require hospitalization. That includes all ages. When you take out the elderly the number drops as low as 6 or 7 of 100,000.
Bar girls are usually too busy having sex with random men to mess around with dating sites. But I have been seeing a lot more bar girls on the dating site than usual. For what its worth they are noticeably more attractive in comparison to the normal homely selection but in my older age I have grown more accustomed to the more simple looking less made up women. Cam girls have been getting progressively more attractive as well due to ex bar girls looking alternate income opportunities. One perk of NOT mongering is my bank account has never looked this good & my credit cards all have a 0 balance, due to not booking flights or hotels. This year might turnout to be the most profitable year in my personal history, due to me not taking time off mongering. Amazing just how much money I did shell out for this hobby. Most of what I have been hearing from these girls on dating sites is that they "used" to have a boyfriend which usually means their ATM has finally dried up. Some notable youtubers have also stopped the remittance payments to phils. Duterte is also out of money and options at this point, he is starting to shit on the medical community as well. Phils slowly but surely moving into a FUBAR situation economically. They going to be sucking on the World banks teats and beg for aid when that dries up, will see Duterte ride some Trump and Xi cock, he will reverse all of his hardboiled stances on politics everyone has a price.
"BSP: Remittance drop accelerates in May, down by almost a fifth".
[URL]https://business.inquirer.net/304321/bsp-remittance-drop-accelerates-in-may-down-by-almost-a-fifth[/URL]
"FACE SHIELDS WILL BE REQUIRED FOR ALL FORMS OF TRAVEL IN PH".
[URL]https://www.tripzilla.ph/face-shields-required-philippines/19654[/URL]
"Duterte: No money for food, aid if Enhanced Community Quarantine declared".
[URL]https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/08/03/2032666/duterte-no-money-food-aid-if-enhanced-community-quarantine-declared[/URL]
"Duterte scolds health experts for trying to 'demean' gov't, claims they're 'not doing anything'.
[URL]https://coconuts.co/manila/news/duterte-scolds-health-experts-for-trying-to-demean-govt-claims-theyre-not-doing-anything/[/URL]
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2473131]One perk of NOT mongering is my bank account has never looked this good & my credit cards all have a 0 balance, due to not booking flights or hotels. <snip> Amazing just how much money I did shell out for this hobby. [/QUOTE]So which do you prefer, having a surplus bank account and zero CC debt or shagging a ton of Asian girls? It is no contest in my book. Money can't buy you love, but it can buy you a whole lot of fun.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2473046]Wow 3,400+ new cases yesterday alone in Phils. That rockets Phils up to #24 on the [URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries[/URL] website, by total cases.[/QUOTE]Amazing that China had only 84000 cases. LOL.
Leaders in RWML should learn from the communist play book. Cheating does pay.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2473131]Some notable youtubers have also stopped the remittance payments to phils....[/QUOTE]What do you mean by this? What youtubers and what are / were they doing?
G.
Is there a link from my photo gallery to my WhatsApp chats?
I want to find which contact or chat a particular donor photo came from with out scrolling through every message to find it. Can I do this?
G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2473205]What do you mean by this? What youtubers and what are / were they doing?
G.[/QUOTE]There have been a number of youtubers I follow that have not been able to go to the Philippines for quite a while so they have stopped sending monthly "allowance" money, there was a live stream discussion about this where a few other expat youtubers joined in on and had "girlfriends" that they were sending money to have now stopped sending money to the Philippines. Most of these guys are back in the states or wherever their home country is and don't know when they will be back in phils so they have decided to cut these girls off.
[QUOTE=RickRock;2473068].....
Most people don't know they're infected. Especially people under sixty without concurrent illness.
.....[/QUOTE]Add in the fact that is coming out that a mild case does not confer long term immunity to the disease and I think that the people having asymptomatic cases will soon become a reservoir of the virus. It will continue to circulate in this population and only show up when someone shedding the virus goes to the old folks home to visit Grandma.
It is here to stay people, get used to whatever comes out as the new normal. How different the new normal is will depend on how effective and widespread vaccines can become, if we can get some prophylactic treatments and how well treatments are developed for the virus.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2473186]So which do you prefer, having a surplus bank account and zero CC debt or shagging a ton of Asian girls? It is no contest in my book. Money can't buy you love, but it can buy you a whole lot of fun.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct. I would much rather be getting it in with some women instead of this pile of money and cam girls and crate of tenga eggs I picked up on amazon. But seeing as mongering has been cancelled for 2020. I have decided to go on a super trip whenever the all clear signal is sounded, maybe hit a few remote locations, this down time should give me ample time to prepare.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2473131]Bar girls are usually too busy having sex with random men to mess around with dating sites. But I have been seeing a lot more bar girls on the dating site than usual.[/QUOTE]I have always seen many bar girls on dating sites in the Philippines and Thailand. Half the chicks on dating sites in AC were bar girls sitting there chatting on the computer while they were in the bar. You think you are talking to a normal chick then the broad hollers come to my bar.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2473211]Is there a link from my photo gallery to my WhatsApp chats?
I want to find which contact or chat a particular donor photo came from with out scrolling through every message to find it. Can I do this?[/QUOTE]Nope. The best you can do is to go to a conversation and hit the 3 dots in the top right, then hit media to see all the media traded between you and that contact.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2473281]I have always seen many bar girls on dating sites in the Philippines and Thailand. Half the chicks on dating sites in AC were bar girls sitting there chatting on the computer while they were in the bar. You think you are talking to a normal chick then the broad hollers come to my bar.[/QUOTE]Lots of the photos of Angeles girls are taken INSIDE the bar. Either that or they have lots of chrome pipes and black leather barstools at home. 🤔.
G.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2473227] But seeing as mongering has been cancelled for 2020. I have decided to go on a super trip whenever the all clear signal is sounded, [/QUOTE]You're not the only one. I can see 2021 mongers falling into 2 categories: those that stay behind due to lingering economic or health concerns and those that do make it across and make up for lost time.
Hopefully I'll be in Group 2. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2473281]I have always seen many bar girls on dating sites in the Philippines and Thailand. Half the chicks on dating sites in AC were bar girls sitting there chatting on the computer while they were in the bar. You think you are talking to a normal chick then the broad hollers come to my bar.[/QUOTE]I like to think after a decade on some of these sites I can spot a bar girl / freelancer in incognito mode. I ask for a Facebook account just to look at the pictures they have taken. If I see colored lights and a bar in the background or random hotel room selfies pretty safe to assume she is a pro. You can also kind of tell if they are eating at more upscale restaurants. Its not a fool proof method but weeds out most pros. Another tell I look for are freelancers eating at Jollibee after a days work along with the other freelancers, these poor province girls can't usually afford to eat Jollibee everyday. There are certain things freelancers and bar girls post that normal girls don't that I normally look to filter out in order to find potential girl friends / longer term arrangements. Don't get me wrong I do keep in touch with the pros but I am not going to invest hours of chat into a bar girl or freelancer, I just message them when I am in country for short time rendezvous. I will however invest some time into non-pros on occasion.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2473300]You're not the only one. I can see 2021 mongers falling into 2 categories: those that stay behind due to lingering economic or health concerns and those that do make it across and make up for lost time.
Hopefully I'll be in Group 2. 😁.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Or we'll all be in Group 3: prohibited from any kind of international travel by our wise and benevolent leaders.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2473300]You're not the only one. I can see 2021 mongers falling into 2 categories: those that stay behind due to lingering economic or health concerns and those that do make it across and make up for lost time.
Hopefully I'll be in Group 2. 😁.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Here's to Group 2! I'll be applying for SRRV next year when all this bullshit blows over.
[QUOTE=DCups;2473396]Here's to Group 2! I'll be applying for SRRV next year when all this bullshit blows over.[/QUOTE]I thought it was going to blow over in May, I mean June, I mean July, I mean September. Are we all set for a sure 2021 reopening now? Based on what, may I inquire?
[QUOTE=RickRock;2473586]I thought it was going to blow over in May, I mean June, I mean July, I mean September. Are we all set for a sure 2021 reopening now? Based on what, may I inquire?[/QUOTE]I don't think there is any realistic time frame. Just guesses, based on 'hopes'. Until there is a solid vaccine in place, distributed among the population (not just the rich or willing), it will just be a series of blooms. Alternately, herd immunity takes over (another 'hope', and nothing more). This could be years in the making. Vaccine timelines are just guesses. Depressing, isn't it?
If you are in-country, stay put and get a regular girl (two), button down the hatches, and ride it out. If you are not in-country, reacquaint yourself with your palm (like when you were married) or spend more to make some magic happen. There are pro's and cons to both staying in-country and to going home.
[QUOTE=RickRock;2473586]I thought it was going to blow over in May, I mean June, I mean July, I mean September. Are we all set for a sure 2021 reopening now? Based on what, may I inquire?[/QUOTE]I am surprised why so many guys are so desperate to get back to the PH that has the highest incidence of Covid-19 in SE Asia and has an overwhelmed health system.
It seems like these guys have no regard whatsoever for their potential to get infected given that the availability of girls desperate for their monetary assistance are those who live in crowded and relatively slum-like areas. They are also assuming they can actually arrange for women to get to their accommodation and that they will be allowed access.
I guess it's a classic case of the little brain ruling the big brain. Those who are desperate must be those who cannot score in their own country and can only get laid if they target desperate pinays who are not too choosy.
I live here and I can see that everyone in my "hood is very antsy about catching the virus. Masks and now shields are compulsory and it is not easy to get around. No taxis buses or trains.
I am bemused why guys with ages that are in the high-risk group will want to challenge the odds of getting infected and if you're unlucky you face being hospitalized in quite difficult circumstances.
I suppose it's a case of "it won't happen to me. These things only happen to other people".
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2473624]I am surprised why so many guys are so desperate to get back to the PH that has the highest incidence of Covid-19 in SE Asia and has an overwhelmed health system.
It seems like these guys have no regard whatsoever for their potential to get infected given that the availability of girls desperate for their monetary assistance are those who live in crowded and relatively slum-like areas. They are also assuming they can actually arrange for women to get to their accommodation and that they will be allowed access.
I guess it's a classic case of the little brain ruling the big brain. Those who are desperate must be those who cannot score in their own country and can only get laid if they target desperate pinays who are not too choosy.
I live here and I can see that everyone in my "hood is very antsy about catching the virus. Masks and now shields are compulsory and it is not easy to get around. No taxis buses or trains.
I am bemused why guys with ages that are in the high-risk group will want to challenge the odds of getting infected and if you're unlucky you face being hospitalized in quite difficult circumstances.
I suppose it's a case of "it won't happen to me. These things only happen to other people".[/QUOTE]Perhaps they can read recent and respected medical studies that show just 0. 001 of people who are infected require hospitalization.
Perhaps they are not elderly, diabetic, or suffering from heart disease or cancer, in which case their chances of serious illness are well under 1 percent.
Or maybe they just don't care and are willing to take the risk, like guys who have sex with prostitutes without using a condom.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2473624]I am surprised why so many guys are so desperate to get back to the PH that has the highest incidence of Covid-19 in SE Asia and has an overwhelmed health system.
It seems like these guys have no regard whatsoever for their potential to get infected given that the availability of girls desperate for their monetary assistance are those who live in crowded and relatively slum-like areas. They are also assuming they can actually arrange for women to get to their accommodation and that they will be allowed access.
I guess it's a classic case of the little brain ruling the big brain. Those who are desperate must be those who cannot score in their own country and can only get laid if they target desperate pinays who are not too choosy.
I live here and I can see that everyone in my "hood is very antsy about catching the virus. Masks and now shields are compulsory and it is not easy to get around. No taxis buses or trains.
I am bemused why guys with ages that are in the high-risk group will want to challenge the odds of getting infected and if you're unlucky you face being hospitalized in quite difficult circumstances.
I suppose it's a case of "it won't happen to me. These things only happen to other people".[/QUOTE]Well, you just described 99 percent of mongers. No one who looks like Idris Elba or Don Draper is dying to get back to one of the worst Wuhan virus hotspots in Southeast Asia for a root.
[QUOTE=RickRock;2473652]Perhaps they can read recent and respected medical studies that show just 0. 001 of people who are infected require hospitalization.
Perhaps they are not elderly, diabetic, or suffering from heart disease or cancer, in which case their chances of serious illness are well under 1 percent.
Or maybe they just don't care and are willing to take the risk, like guys who have sex with prostitutes without using a condom.[/QUOTE]Well said Rick.
RK wonders why people without fire protection are trying to run into an empty burning building or people who are already on fire. Well who knows. But there are several areas where people or leaders have made choices that will inadvertently lead to some interesting unintended insight into Covid19. The data guys are digging through all those numbers.
If someone wants to travel, I suspect they will find a way. Especially if they think they are or can be virus proof.
Several countries are advancing their own vaccine development because they suspect the new world order will lead to many western countries not sharing vaccines till their own population are vaccinated. So far the exceptions are surprisingly China and Russia.
Russia claims to have one soon. Like others, they are waiting for approval. So, if one cannot wait, they can sign up for one of the trials or be the first to get an approved vaccine in the jurisdiction that approved it.
Right now, restrictions on movement in PI has impacted mongering. Difficult to move around. Neighbors don't like a flow of strange people breaking quarantine in your home. They will report you.
Even in the US, I heard one person had a cop visit because of an out of state plate in the driveway. At least the neighbors did not try to self investigate with loaded guns.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2473714]Russia claims to have one soon.[/QUOTE]They'll have one about as soon as the British do, since they've been hacking into the British studies. Innovation takes many forms.
[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2473669]Well said Rick.[/QUOTE]Except the fatality rate is currently running around 1%. The mathematics are not hard to do. Just take the deaths, divide by the confirmed cases and multiply by 100. However given the fatality rate is much higher with known morbidity factors it would make a lot more sense to manage those segments of the population than the population as a whole.
[QUOTE=RickRock;2473652]Perhaps they can read recent and respected medical studies that show just 0. 001 of people who are infected require hospitalization.
Perhaps they are not elderly, diabetic, or suffering from heart disease or cancer, in which case their chances of serious illness are well under 1 percent.
Or maybe they just don't care and are willing to take the risk, like guys who have sex with prostitutes without using a condom.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GDreams;2473783]Except the fatality rate is currently running around 1%. The mathematics are not hard to do. Just take the deaths, divide by the confirmed cases and multiply by 100. However given the fatality rate is much higher with known morbidity factors it would make a lot more sense to manage those segments of the population than the population as a whole.[/QUOTE]Not making any claim that the virus / pandemic isn't dangerous, just some data in the pic. It would appear that the disease is deadly almost solely in the those who are both aged *and* have morbidity factors (diabetes, cardio-pulomonary problems, that admittedly co-relate with age).
And then there's this, from yesterday's NY Times: "A flurry of recent studies has revealed that a large proportion of the population 20% to 50% of people in some places might harbor immunity assassins called T cells that recognize the new coronavirus despite having never encountered it before. ". A previously undisclosed herd immunity (just my luck, I probably don't have assassin cells).
[URL]https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-immune-system-might-still-141224903.html[/URL]
I'm keeping my mask on (and soon to come: the mandatory face shield).
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2473833]
I'm keeping my mask on (and soon to come: the mandatory face shield).[/QUOTE]Might as well stretch one of the 1000's of unused condoms that are expiring in our respective luggage over your head at this point. Mandatory face shields? Hazmat suits will be mandatory before long. This is when I'm glad I don't live in a shithole, I'm more than happy with UBER eats from my favorite steakhouse, air-conditioning, plumbing that I can flush toilet paper down and my piles on money in the bank until this runs its course.
If anyone thinks the vaccine is THE panacea we are looking for its not when the vaccine is unleashed it will only be 50% effective (not 93%) which is about as good as the current Flu shot, we all know how well that works.
China specifically has HAD a vaccine since April hence the low infection rate in China (Chinese people are already vaccinated against the China based strain) and they aren't sharing until official trials are completed to show efficacy with the mutations and of course to ensure profit.
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/07/coronavirus-vaccine-dr-fauci-says-chances-of-it-being-highly-effective-is-not-great.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/china-coronavirus-vaccine-could-be-ready-emergency-use-april[/URL]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2020/aug/08/covid-vaccine-tracker-when-will-we-have-a-coronavirus-vaccine[/URL]
[QUOTE=GDreams;2473783]Except the fatality rate is currently running around 1%. The mathematics are not hard to do. Just take the deaths, divide by the confirmed cases and multiply by 100. However given the fatality rate is much higher with known morbidity factors it would make a lot more sense to manage those segments of the population than the population as a whole.[/QUOTE]I think you're talking about case fatality rates.
The important number is infection fatality rates.
As researchers like us have learned more about the spread of the virus, we have discovered that the total number of infected people is far greater than the number of confirmed cases. For example in New York, it was more than 10 times the previously announced infection rate.
When deaths from COVID-19 are divided by the total number of cases – not just reported cases – you get a statistic called the infection fatality rate (IFR). The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention currently has a best guess of 0. 26%% for the IFR.
And that's in the US where half of the population is obese, and more than half of the population has a "chronic disease or illness. ".
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2473862]If anyone thinks the vaccine is THE panacea we are looking for its not when the vaccine is unleashed it will only be 50% effective (not 93%) which is about as good as the current Flu shot, we all know how well that works.[/QUOTE]Not to mention that it won't work on obese people.
And that as many as half of people won't take it.
And that even if a vaccine was approved we only have the capability to actually make about 300,000,000 doses in a world of almost 9 billion people.
Start crunching those numbers and you might be able to understand why people in the travel industry are talking about maybe starting to approach something like normal in 2024.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2473771]They'll have one about as soon as the British do, since they've been hacking into the British studies. Innovation takes many forms.[/QUOTE]Different paths. Vaccines are already available in many counties. Each have their own approval process for delivery to human population.
As for industrial espionage, it is an ancient game. Think tea, silkworms, pasta, wine, cheese, metal alloys, herbs. Check with Snowden, the 5 and soon to be 6 eyes should be more interesting.
Oh I skimmed a news report about some country buying up most supply and future production of Remdesivir.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2474150]Oh I skimmed a news report about some country buying up most supply and future production of Remdesivir.[/QUOTE]That was USA. And some think if the vaccine is working and available USA should get it last now. From reading some news outlets horrified that the USA should ignore the rest of world's needs. But then I suppose it needs it more given that it leads the world in cases and deaths (but would not be in this position if we applied the logic of its President and did not do as many tests LOL).
Supposedly Russia just announced the approval of a locally developed Covid19 vaccine. I guess James Bond, Felix and Our Man Flint are on their way to Russia.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2474164]That was USA. And some think if the vaccine is working and available USA should get it last now. From reading some news outlets horrified that the USA should ignore the rest of world's needs. But then I suppose it needs it more given that it leads the world in cases and deaths (but would not be in this position if we applied the logic of its President and did not do as many tests LOL).[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bushes;2474150]Different paths. Vaccines are already available in many counties. Each have their own approval process for delivery to human population.
As for industrial espionage, it is an ancient game. Think tea, silkworms, pasta, wine, cheese, metal alloys, herbs. Check with Snowden, the 5 and soon to be 6 eyes should be more interesting.
Oh I skimmed a news report about some country buying up most supply and future production of Remdesivir.[/QUOTE]
Time to dust off those condoms and suitcases. And get some jogging in so you don't keel over with your first bar fine.
"Duterte accepts Russia's vaccine offer; chances of COVID-free Christmas higher".
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjemgps_RCs[/URL]
Oh. Russia has partnered with local companies in several countries for research and vaccine production. Also their methodology is different from the Oxford and some US methodology. China took also a more traditional path. Hopefully, the differences will only enhance the overall protection for people as a whole versus people of a particular social economic status in certain countries.
And yeah. All blue ball monitor addicts better start exercising and dusting of that Costco special box of 1000 condoms.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2474150]Oh I skimmed a news report about some country buying up most supply and future production of Remdesivir.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bushes;2474387]Supposedly Russia just announced the approval of a locally developed Covid19 vaccine. I guess James Bond, Felix and Our Man Flint are on their way to Russia.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2474419]Time to dust off those condoms and suitcases. And get some jogging in so you don't keel over with your first bar fine.
"Duterte accepts Russia's vaccine offer; chances of COVID-free Christmas higher".
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjemgps_RCs[/URL][/QUOTE]Not tested, not properly trialed so say much of world media, and you believe in Santa also MM.
Read the local news (lots of different sites) as some of us do and listen to those who live in hot spots. Read the contributors to this thread. That is a better indication of what will happen then the link to a MB site.
And does it say that foreign mongers are to be given a priority or can leave their shores to travel or that very likely some rich politician and cronies will get the vaccine first leaving the poor scrambling (and which class of person are the mongers generally shagging?
While not many love to hear blue balls will likely continue until 2021.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2474510]Not tested, not properly trialed so say much of world media, and you believe in Santa also MM.
Read the local news (lots of different sites) as some of us do and listen to those who live in hot spots. Read the contributors to this thread. That is a better indication of what will happen then the link to a MB site.
And does it say that foreign mongers are to be given a priority or can leave their shores to travel or that very likely some rich politician and cronies will get the vaccine first leaving the poor scrambling (and which class of person are the mongers generally shagging?
While not many love to hear blue balls will likely continue until 2021.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Devil is in the details. PI had a very sad experience with a French dangue vaccine severalyears ago even though it had been approved for a couple to several years before. It had a known theoretical problem that was not emphasized or highlighted. Still approved in the US.
Unfortunately, those with all the information and knowledge might not be the one giving the advice or the one in power. Think Johnson, Trump, Bolsonaro. Oh, A small amount of bleach is okay for disinfecting drinking water versus drinking contaminated water. Balance. Balance is important. But unfortunately there usually are a lot of information to digest first.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2474510]Not tested, not properly trialed so say much of world media, and you believe in Santa also MM.[/QUOTE]The new vaccine is appropriately named Sputnik V. I'm old enough to remember the first Sputnik, a series of early space shots with animal or human cargo in satellite capsules. A bunch of dead dogs and cosmonauts before they got the wrinkles worked out. I'd assume Soviet / Russian standards for scientific testing procedures might not match those in other countries. If Putin is so impressed, and proud that his daughter was one of the volunteers who was vaccinated, why didn't he volunteer. It may turn out that poor Filipinos will be Duterte's first Guinea pigs, because better-educated Filipinos will likely delay gratification.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2474751]The new vaccine is appropriately named Sputnik V. I'm old enough to remember the first Sputnik, a series of early space shots with animal or human cargo in satellite capsules. A bunch of dead dogs and cosmonauts before they got the wrinkles worked out. I'd assume Soviet / Russian standards for scientific testing procedures might not match those in other countries. If Putin is so impressed, and proud that his daughter was one of the volunteers who was vaccinated, why didn't he volunteer. It may turn out that poor Filipinos will be Duterte's first Guinea pigs, because better-educated Filipinos will likely delay gratification.[/QUOTE]Supposedly, the Soviet Sputnik program had a number of failures that the Politburo hid from the world. There suppose to be in the space junk circling the planet a number of mummified dogs and cosmonauts they could never retrieve!
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;2474771]Supposedly, the Soviet Sputnik program had a number of failures that the Politburo hid from the world. There suppose to be in the space junk circling the planet a number of mummified dogs and cosmonauts they could never retrieve![/QUOTE]Some of the newer US failures resulted in shuttle members possibly surviving a launch explosion but perishing on impact. Or shuttle breakup and burning on reentry. It is like the George Clooney's movie. Maybe better to go with co2 poisoning.
People have taken experimental medicine or treatments because of desperation. The US doctor that survived ebola and was airlifted back to the US, took a lot of experimental stuff. Including a young ebola boy survivor 's plasma. I wonder who consented on behalf of the boy.
If you had a Cloverfield esqu structure, stay put and don't bring any pussy inside. For some reason, bring a pussy inside usually results in guys dying. Guess history repeats, apple, tree, snake.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2474646]Yeah. Devil is in the details. PI had a very sad experience with a French dangue vaccine severalyears ago ....[/QUOTE]The government is so desperate to reopen the economy that they may just promote an unproven vaccine so that they can get things going.
There is a vaccine, we are saved.
The Russian vaccine has not undergone phase 3 trials. That is large scale on many people. Normally that os necessary for approval. This early approval is politics and not science.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2475336]The government is so desperate to reopen the economy that they may just promote an unproven vaccine so that they can get things going.
There is a vaccine, we are saved.
The Russian vaccine has not undergone phase 3 trials. That is large scale on many people. Normally that os necessary for approval. This early approval is politics and not science.[/QUOTE]The French Sanofi dengue fever vaccine had passed phase 3 trials and was approved for at least a couple years before Philippines adopted it. Many people died. It is still approved in US.
Remdesivir is still completing Phase 2 and 3 trials for covid19.
As I suggested, balance. Would more harm (many ways to measure) come from using an experimental vaccine versus keeping economy, schools open and not wearing masks and maybe taking Hydroxychloroquine?
Several doctors have taken the Oxford vaccine. The doctor who found the small pox vaccine tested it on a boy, not his, and tried to infect the boy with small pox.
Anyway, pussy is more dangerous. Lead to more deaths. Helen of Troy.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2474751]It may turn out that poor Filipinos will be Duterte's first Guinea pigs[/QUOTE]Seems likely:
"The Philippines will begin large-scale human testing of Russia's coronavirus vaccine in October, but President Rodrigo Duterte will not receive the inoculation until regulators guarantee its safety, his spokesman said Thursday. ".
But they'd be the second Guinea pigs.
These poor souls were the first:
"The Philippines was the first country to introduce the dengue vaccine CYD-TDV (Dengvaxia; Pasteur, Lyon, France) on a large scale in selected highly endemic regions, targeting about 1 million children aged 9–10 years. ".
"In late November 2017, the Department of Health (DOH) suspended the school-based vaccination program that used the dengue vaccine after reports circulated that several children had died from various complications allegedly attributed to the vaccine. Shortly afterwards, the company made a statement that its product posed higher risks to people without prior dengue infection. ".
"As of August 2019, over 600 people (mostly children) that had received at least a single dose of the vaccine had died. The scare caused by the controversy has been suggested as a factor in the country's loss of confidence in vaccines and low immunization rates, resulting in an infectious disease crisis in the country in 2019, including a measles outbreak. ".
[QUOTE=Bushes;2474937]Some of the newer US failures resulted in shuttle members possibly surviving a launch explosion but perishing on impact. Or shuttle breakup and burning on reentry. [/QUOTE]NASA's two most conspicuous accidents were Challenger (1986) and Columbia (2003). Seven astronauts died in each accident. A researcher named Diane Vaughan argued that Challenger occurred because NASA's culture had developed a "normalization of deviance. " That is, they were so invested in "go, go, go," that they increasingly tolerated violations of safety standards, so that Challenger was an accident waiting to happen. Unfortunately, Columbia occurred because NASA officials didn't take Vaughan seriously the first time. I read somewhere that they invited her in and listened to her after Columbia. What we seem to be experiencing in some notable countries with Covid is a headlong rush to normalize deviance by idiots with political goals who are so eager to create an impression of getting things going that they are willing to throw all caution to the wind.
RR's story is almost scarier. Seems to have occurred in a context in which the lives of poor people are cheap and there never were any basic safety standards.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2475412] the lives of poor people are cheap and there never were any basic safety standards.[/QUOTE]Could be the slogan for ASEAN.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2475412]RR's story is almost scarier. Seems to have occurred in a context in which the lives of poor people are cheap and there never were any basic safety standards.[/QUOTE]Well, I think that is what people in Flint thought. Again same state with Black Lives Matter.
Not too far behind were Asian and other poorer sections of the US population pressured to work without PPE and under conditions susceptible to Covid infections. The Germans and Japanese were also leading live human testing practitioners.
Things are tough for many pinays. Many are caught in making hard choices. Also, since many officially work abroad, they are more exposed to possible covid exposures. Worse for Filipinos.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2475839]Well, I think that is what people in Flint thought. Again same state with Black Lives Matter.
Not too far behind were Asian and other poorer sections of the US population pressured to work without PPE and under conditions susceptible to Covid infections. [/QUOTE]Are you saying that shit rolls down hill?
[QUOTE=Bushes;2475839]Well, I think that is what people in Flint thought. Again same state with Black Lives Matter.
Not too far behind were Asian and other poorer sections of the US population pressured to work without PPE and under conditions susceptible to Covid infections. The Germans and Japanese were also leading live human testing practitioners.
Things are tough for many pinays. Many are caught in making hard choices. Also, since many officially work abroad, they are more exposed to possible covid exposures. Worse for Filipinos.[/QUOTE]Asians are the richest racial group in America: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income[/URL]#Asian.
Average Filipino-American household earns $82,238 a year.
Average Korean-American household earns 92,074.
Average Chinese-American household earns 91,944.
Average Taiwanese-American household earns 105,726.
Average Indian-American household earns 123,453.
Compare this to overall average household income in America which is $61,937 a year.
Not quite a marginalized group LOL Especially when you realize many Asian-American households are traditional with a single male breadwinner versus America as a whole where mom dad and the eldest offspring usually have a job.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2475982]Are you saying that shit rolls down hill?[/QUOTE]Been told a general observation that the paler or whiter the higher it floats; excluding present company. LOL.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2475839]...........Things are tough for many pinays. Many are caught in making hard choices. ...........[/QUOTE]Ever since my last trip to the Philippines in 2007 I have been in touch with a non-pro Filipina who had a reasonably good job with an investment firm. Well due to the economic ravages of covid 19 she is now unemployed. She has resorted to selling clothing on line. I have bought some clothes from her to help her out.
[QUOTE=RickRock;2476028]Asians are the richest racial group in America: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income[/URL]#Asian.
Average Filipino-American household earns $82,238 a year.
Average Korean-American household earns 92,074.
Average Chinese-American household earns 91,944.
Average Taiwanese-American household earns 105,726.
Average Indian-American household earns 123,453.
Compare this to overall average household income in America which is $61,937 a year.
Not quite a marginalized group LOL Especially when you realize many Asian-American households are traditional with a single male breadwinner versus America as a whole where mom dad and the eldest offspring usually have a job.[/QUOTE]I think your numbers are correct. One reason may be that visa quotas favor immigrants with higher levels of education. Higher levels of education are undoubtedly correlated with higher incomes. In my local community I know a lot of the Fil-Ams. Many are doctors, engineers, professors, nurses, IT specialists. The exceptions are women who married veterans and sex tourists. (Nobody admits to being the latter.).
I'd like to see the data that confirm your thesis about traditional Asian households. I've seen some data suggesting that only Hispanics have larger households than Asians.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2476309]I think your numbers are correct. One reason may be that visa quotas favor immigrants with higher levels of education. [/QUOTE]It does not work like that. I have worked in enough first generation immigrant people's houses to know there is nothing favoring immigrants with higher levels of education. Most can't even speak English if they are from a non-English speaking country. Afterall, people that are ahead of the game do not want to leave their country.
What happens is that the first generation comes and struggles and puts their kids through school in the process. You can see this time and time again in various countries. The Chinese will come and sell fruit on the corner. They will save enough to buy a corner store. Their family will sleep in the back of the store while the locals are talking down on them about it. Soon they will own a chain of grocery stores or restaurants, or nail salons, or whatever the hell, and their kids have become university graduates. When the locals see this they become jealous and believe they were given something or helped by the government. They see you when you are balling, but did not see you when you were struggling. Chinese have done the same thing in Thailand and the United States and they are now doing it in Latin America and Africa. There is no easy way.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2476317]It does not work like that. I have worked in enough first generation immigrant people's houses to know there is nothing favoring immigrants with higher levels of education. Most can't even speak English if they are from a non-English speaking country. Afterall, people that are ahead of the game do not want to leave their country.
What happens is that the first generation comes and struggles and puts their kids through school in the process. You can see this time and time again in various countries. The Chinese will come and sell fruit on the corner. They will save enough to buy a corner store. Their family will sleep in the back of the store while the locals are talking down on them about it. Soon they will own a chain of grocery stores or restaurants, or nail salons, or whatever the hell, and their kids have become university graduates. When the locals see this they become jealous and believe they were given something or helped by the government. They see you when you are balling, but did not see you when you were struggling. Chinese have done the same thing in Thailand and the United States and they are now doing it in Latin America and Africa. There is no easy way.[/QUOTE]Holy moly Mr. E! A post of yours that DG 100% agree with. Not only agree but 100% accurate.
I have seen family run small hole in the wall Chinese restaurants produce CPAs, Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers and so on and on professionals. The whole family operated a small business probably earning $2. 00 a hour each. Which didn't matter. What matter was the combined family earned $50,000 a year, enough to live on and to save money for kid's college.
I have seen immigrant Korean family run dry cleaners send kids to college and then retire.
I have seen the poorest of the poor uneducated Vietnamese "boat people" take over the fishing in the gulf of Texas and send their kids off to college producing Doctors, Dentists, Lawyers and so on.
Most people assume these professional offsprings were from rich families!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2476317]What happens is that the first generation comes and struggles and puts their kids through school in the process. You can see this time and time again in various countries. [/QUOTE]When I was a young kid we had a market garden growing tomatoes and potatoes. EVERY other family was first generation Italian immigrants. They worked non stop and those that didn't run a market garden used their existing skills to enter the building trades. One cousin was a bricklayer, another a tiler, another an electrician etc. Before long they all had 10 houses and their kids wouldn't even consider manual labour. That space has now been taken over by Vietnamese and SEA immigrants.
When I went to college its was right in the middle of the Pol Pot Kampuchean crisis. Mom and dad spoke no English and the kids weren't much better. NO ONE worked harder at school than those kids and through sheer hard effort and helping each other they always came top of class in high end engineering disciplines.
Meanwhile we were out chasing girls and getting drunk every night. 😁.
I would agree that skilled and wealth based immigration has added to the mix but the attitudes haven't changed. Why leave India, Korea etc is you don't want to work for a better future?
Cheers. G.
While adding even more restrictions to the face shield and face mask they are adding a widespread curfew to the list of lunacy. This appears to be a way to squeeze honest working people out of the last few remaining pesos than it is life saving measures. It appears as if they are opening back up in order to collect fees from made up violations preying yet again on the poor which I attribute to the Philippines coffers being 1000% bare. Dutarte basically greenlighting Police shakedowns and corruption is back in season when things get rough police get to work harassing innocent people.
All the while Dutarte is running around allegedly or not so allegedly vacationing in Singapore on government funds. He even talks about vacating the presidency and possibly putting a security minister in charge. Dutarte seems like he has just given up until the vaccine which for the Philippines being last in line for and will take half a year at best to procure in numbers meaning full enough to make a dent. Question is are you still heading to phils as soon as you get inoculated? My little head still says yes but my big head might be winning this war.
"Metro Manila mayors agree to impose Unified 8 pm- 5 am Curfew, Palace says".
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPTED_H3lfE[/URL]
"Duterte denies Singapore trip rumors but stresses his right to travel".
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve3XEdKErDI[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2476317]It does not work like that. I have worked in enough first generation immigrant people's houses to know there is nothing favoring immigrants with higher levels of education. Most can't even speak English if they are from a non-English speaking country. Afterall, people that are ahead of the game do not want to leave their country. [/QUOTE]I was mistaken, mea culpa. But the situation is more complex than you suggest. I plucked data from a 2017 report from the Center for Immigration Studies (tables in the attachment.) It suggests that education levels for recent immigrants are more diverse than for native-born Americans. That is, the recent immigrant population contains more people with less than a high school diploma, but also many more with bachelors degrees as compared to native-born Americans.
If "people that are ahead of the game do not want to leave their country," as you suggest, why do so many immigrants have bachelors degrees or more? And why is my local Fil-Am association comprised of so many doctors, nurses, engineers, professors, and IT guys? I know one guy who finished medical school in Cebu, then went back to train as an RN, took the nursing exam in the Philippines (Phils nursing certification is accepted in most US states), and came to the US as a nurse, earning more as a nurse here than as an MD in the Philippines. This is an anecdotal case, but I understand it's a common pattern. Educated people do leave developing countries. The Philippines and other poor countries have significant "brain drain" issues.
If you want to understand how people from the Philippines, both with and without education, migrate to OFW jobs, cruise ships, and professional employment in English speaking countries, please read Jason DeParle's excellent book, **A Good Provider is One who Leaves. *.
Bushes referred in a recent post to poor Asian families suffering under Covid. RR then showed income data drawn from Wikipedia, suggesting that Asian-American households earn more on average than other American households. But how can these numbers square with income data in the third table in my attachment, which shows recent immigrants' income is about half that of natives? A couple possible explanations:
1. The Wikipedia data are arithmetic means, whereas the data from the Center for Immigration Studies are median incomes. Mean is calculated by adding up all incomes and dividing by the number of individuals; median is the point at which 50% of cases are higher and 50% are lower. Mean income data are invariably skewed upward by a few millionaires. Median captures the most typical income across the population; it's a much better measure for "average" income.
2. The Immigration Center data are "recent" immigrants. It may be, as Mr. E and Dg suggest, that it takes a while or a generation or two for immigrant families to settle into better jobs.
But all of this suggests there may well be pockets of poor Asian immigrants as Bushes suggested, and as Dg described, such as Vietnamese fishing the Louisiana coast, or large households of Chinese restaurant workers with many people taking up floor space.
RK lectures me about not posting shit like this in ISG, which is supposed to be about fucking poor women. My excuse is that we're in a down time and most ISG members are unable to fuck Pinay p4ps at present.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2476680]All the while Dutarte is running around allegedly or not so allegedly vacationing in Singapore on government funds. He even talks about vacating the presidency and possibly putting a security minister in charge. [/QUOTE]It's talk. In order to bypass Leni Robredo they'd need to amend the constitution. Similar situation in the states: may need to "redo the election" if Trump doesn't win.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2476680]Question is are you still heading to phils as soon as you get inoculated? My little head still says yes but my big head might be winning this war.[/QUOTE]So you still believe in Santa MM. Maybe the last part of the sentence shows some understanding of reality.
How many times must the head attached to your groin realize Philippines is not safe enough yet. Look at statistics, speak to people there (some of whom have rarely left their houses since mid March), read the news without that head making judgement etc.
Simply put I doubt you will visiting until 2021 and that depends as has been noted before if tourists are allowed kin (I am still unclear is SSRV holders can get back still).
It also assumes your country will prioritize you for a vaccine shot over others deemed more high risk so best listen to the advice of previously and play at home, with yourself or both LOL.
And remember politicians who truly care about the man in the street are are rare all over the world LOL.
There is a mixture of factual and non factual info on immigration from what everyone is saying.
- Asian American households (1st gen immigrants and their children) tend to do well economically because a significant proportion of them came into the country more educated than your average American. This doesn't necessarily mean all these immigrants waltzed into high paying jobs, even those that operate the laundry shops and convenience stores often have bachelor degrees and higher from their home countries. This tends to bleed into the decisions they make for their businesses and their families (I. E. Financial planning and literacy, strong education, taking advantage of government policies and opportunities, networking etc). And of course those that do waltz into high paying jobs also add to the mix.
- Asian American households (1st gen) also tend to have higher levels of poverty than the average American household. Particularly those from the South East Asian community, for example up to a quarter of Malaysian Americans in the US live below the poverty line. And that's before we talk about the undocumented Asian immigrants.
[URL]https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/asian-americans-are-falling-through-cracks-data-representation-and-social-services[/URL]
The socioeconomic situation of Asians in Western Society Summit going on here is killing my boner even more than I thought possible. One thing that does come from a result of these 2nd 3rd and 4rd generation immigrant family's is they get progressively less attractive to me as their western brainwashing completes and they lose all sense of the culture we all enjoy so much overseas. They tend to get much more entitled and self serving. Today I would never dream of touching anything "American" or americanized, I'm saving all that trump money for trips to the shiittyest parts on asia and looking for the most disenfranchised women possible. Empowerment and independence are all huge boner killers for me personally maybe your more beta male like a more domineering woman. The only real side effect of Asian girls in America is that they gain a sense of empowerment sends chills down my spine.
The very first nipple I ever saw was of this 2nd generation Philippino girl that lived in a mansion in Duarte California in the 80's (NOT POOR) and I've been hooked ever since. Take Mirella Ponce (google her, known as the hot pinay mugshot girl) is kind of a good baseline for what asian "american" girls turn into. In the early 90's asian american fever was at its peak I remember going to many a "hot import night" car convention which were really just hot asian girl conventions. Daily city still has some Fil-Am focused festivals where you can intermingle with Fil-ams. I would say that Asian Americans are disenfranchised becasue they want to be, they mostly try to stick to closely knit communities (they seem to be slumming it more than genuinely poor). The later generations are much more indoctrinated and are less self isolating, asian women eventually start to date ONLY western men. There was some study done on modern online dating where Asian Males and Black females were the most racially discriminated against, which I would say is pretty accurate. Outcalls in the USA were costing me about $300-$1000 an hour with import models in the early 90's. When I learned I could bang 10 girls for a total trip cost of around 2-3 k I was hooked. I used to spend $1000's of dollars on hook ups in hotels on the strip in las vegas and incall / outcalls / asian message parlors in Daily city and Fresno. To this day in Las Vegas for some Asian Instagram hoe could run you anywhere from $350-$2000 (These girls in las vegas are at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder and make $2 k an hour) and in manila the same quality girl will run you $50-$100 asians in western countries are not poor. Asian girls in America have 500%-1000% the income they do in their respective home countries even at the poorest levels. The western world and the WHO 2025 directives to end social economic strife also in turn mean an end to some mongering destinations eventually.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2476113]Been told a general observation that the paler or whiter the higher it floats; excluding present company. LOL.[/QUOTE]As for the vaccine. The vaccine candidates are already beginning distributed as in tests and production. If you sign up for a trial, you will get one. Best place to sign up might be Brazil as trials need the virus spreading or deliberately given to test subjects; like the boy who got the polio vaccine and then the virus. Americans, Germans and Japanese have tested on people without consent.
As for travel, the Thai king and Duterte have shown that travel is possible. Both are examples of people escaping their home country. The anti globalization might not happen right away so I suspect there has to be travel to keep economies going. Just look around and read. Another British government official was caught travelling and setting a bad example, as if he really cares.
As for pussy, there are always some around. Maybe one or two paper shopping bags required. Otherwise it is time to get a nice Kindle and rediscover the joy of reading.
As for the Asian groceries stores, unfortunately, Trump might force them to sell to cvs, pathmart or Walmart.
[URL]https://pro.delta.com/content/agency/us/en/news/news-archive/2020/august-2020/delta-brings-back-more-flights-across-the-atlantic-and-pacific-t.html[/URL]
Delta is looking to resume scheduled MNL service from Inchon, Oct 25th. That is a good sign, but still subject to postponement if countries don't open up.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2476505]...........Why leave India, Korea etc is you don't want to work for a better future? Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]That's right they don't leave SEA to monger in the US.
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2477609][URL]https://pro.delta.com/content/agency/us/en/news/news-archive/2020/august-2020/delta-brings-back-more-flights-across-the-atlantic-and-pacific-t.html[/URL]
Delta is looking to resume scheduled MNL service from Inchon, Oct 25th. That is a good sign, but still subject to postponement if countries don't open up.[/QUOTE]Says nothing about being allowed to enter the country and be given a visa on arrival. Which is the main issue for anyone coming the Philippines.
But was a good list to tell others where not to go. As shows where Americans are allowed to go so best avoid those places as the infection rate there etc is the highest (or one of top 3) in the world and given the reaction to it is clueless ways to control this pandemic would you want to be close to any source of infections (or would the cuties either? In Ireland the locals have called the police at times when see an American tourist LOL.
But in the end there has been no mention that tourist visas will be reissued so all this is speculation at best.
And of course your balls must be super blue if you must fly Delta anywhere LOL.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2477758]Says nothing about being allowed to enter the country and be given a visa on arrival. Which is the main issue for anyone coming the Philippines.
But was a good list to tell others where not to go. As shows where Americans are allowed to go so best avoid those places as the infection rate there etc is the highest (or one of top 3) in the world and given the reaction to it is clueless ways to control this pandemic would you want to be close to any source of infections (or would the cuties either? In Ireland the locals have called the police at times when see an American tourist LOL.
But in the end there has been no mention that tourist visas will be reissued so all this is speculation at best.
And of course your balls must be super blue if you must fly Delta anywhere LOL.[/QUOTE]I feel bad that you live a life blinded by hate.
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2477915]I feel bad that you live a life blinded by hate.[/QUOTE]LOL, that's funny when they see American they call the police.
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2477915]I feel bad that you live a life blinded by hate.[/QUOTE]Why do you say hate Salty? Did you read the news and see the statistics or do you inhabit a different world where stats and facts are never believed.
Sadly it is fact read the news as it is all there and I state the basics facts unlike many world leaders who seem to think the public are stupid.
Read the news Salty as this gives an insight into the world. I know for a fact that you can't travel to the Philippines as a monger yet as no tourist visas so far, that USA tourists have been dobbed in by others as they don't obey self ISO rules.
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/world/europe/Ireland-americans-break-quarantine.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.thejournal.ie/bars-restaurants-quarantine-5148431-Jul2020/[/URL]
Read those and then Google for others Salty LOL as most places in the world don't allow USA citizens to visit their countries and why should they? Now if we have a vaccine that works then things change but until then I will only see my family in the USA using Skype etc sadly.
I have family in the USA (southern states) some of whom are old / frail and high risk so I read the news and clearly understand that while I would like to go see them I can't and would not risk travel to a country that clearly has no idea how to handle a pandemic.
[QUOTE=JohnReter335;2478002]LOL, that's funny when they see American they call the police.[/QUOTE]Not funny at all. In Canada we are barely keeping a lid on the virus. Barely. So many are worried about their rights on things like wearing a mask or holding large parties that the virus keeps percolating just below the surface here. Governors in the northern US states have been putting pressure on the Canadian Government to reopen the Canadian boarders. Thankfully to date this has been rejected. Canadians recognize that the last thing Canadians want is to have that stew circulated and brought across our boarders to Canada in greater numbers.
Americans are known for their arrogance of flouting the law once they gain entry to Canada. Right now, one of the few reasons they are allowed into Canada without quarantine is to drive directly to Alaska and even then they are encouraged to not use hotels and use drive through restaurants only. Recently it has been found that Americans have been using their stated direct trips to take a leisurely sightseeing side trips even stopping in our National Parks. It has become a significant enough problem that the R.C.M.P have started charging Americans with fines in the range of $2,500. And yes Canadians are calling the police when they see American licence plates where they ought not be seen. And yes Canadian authorities are following up.
WR is correct, North Americans are clueless about the ways to properly handle this pandemic. A case in point is how Vietnam dealt with their first outbreak. They locked down the country, provided testing and tracing, and in some cases locked down whole cities when a single new case as discovered. Within a couple months their citizens were out and free to wander the streets and party. They were more than three months without a new case. Ninety million people with less than 500 cases and no deaths. Recently they have had a new outbreak and they are going thorough the same process. I predict they will obtain similar results although this time they have suffered about 25 deaths. There are times when acting for the "the greater good" has to supersede individual rights and freedoms and it seems most Asian countries understand this. If North Americans understood this we would be out enjoying football and baseball rather than looking for a political excuse for exemptions.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52628283
https://vietnamnews.vn/society/771541/covid-19-figures-in-viet-nam-on-tuesday-morning.html
I was booked to go back to Vietnam in February and cancelled my trip. I was concerned how a developing country would be able to handle the virus. In hindsight I wish I had gone as I suspect I would have been safer there than I am in North America where our leaders are afraid to lead. Had I gone I would still be enjoying my time there. Instead I suspect it will be late 2021, or longer if a vaccine is not available, before North Americans will be welcomed back to Asian countries.
Nut.
[QUOTE=Amanut;2478065]Not funny at all. In Canada we are barely keeping a lid on the virus. Barely. So many are worried about their rights on things like wearing a mask or holding large parties that the virus keeps percolating just below the surface here. Governors in the northern US states have been putting pressure on the Canadian Government to reopen the Canadian boarders. Thankfully to date this has been rejected. Canadians recognize that the last thing Canadians want is to have that stew circulated and brought across our boarders to Canada in greater numbers.
Americans are known for their arrogance of flouting the law once they gain entry to Canada. Right now, one of the few reasons they are allowed into Canada without quarantine is to drive directly to Alaska and even then they are encouraged to not use hotels and use drive through restaurants only. Recently it has been found that Americans have been using their stated direct trips to take a leisurely sightseeing side trips even stopping in our National Parks. It has become a significant enough problem that the R.C.M.P have started charging Americans with fines in the range of $2,500. And yes Canadians are calling the police when they see American licence plates where they ought not be seen. And yes Canadian authorities are following up.[/QUOTE]Viet Nam shares a border with China. Viet Nam experiences China at close quarters. Should it be any surprise that they know what goes on there and what to do about it? And you notice how all other Southeast Asian countries remain closed. These people have experience in living memory of epidemic disease and they are aware of the capacities of their public health systems. Americans, comparatively, are living in a bubble where for generations they've felt they've conquered every disease that's come their way. So, why wouldn't they react by shrugging this one off and clinging close as possible to their sense of normality. In 20-20 hindsight, North Americans should not have welcomed people from Asian countries back in late 2019. This virus — and others sure to come — will cause people to change their habits and thinking. In the meantime, best get it straight that ultimately it's best to rely on your own most-informed judgement here.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2478037]Why do you say hate Salty? <snip>
Read those and then Google for others Salty LOL as most places in the world don't allow USA citizens to visit their countries and why should they? Now if we have a vaccine that works then things change but until then I will only see my family in the USA using Skype etc sadly.
I have family in the USA (southern states) some of whom are old / frail and high risk so I read the news and clearly understand that while I would like to go see them I can't and would not risk travel to a country that clearly has no idea how to handle a pandemic.[/QUOTE]Of course you are entitled to your opinion, WR, but you should be aware that it does come off as a little nasty and political.
Anyhow, Here is a bit of good news: Starting in September Costa Rica will waive it's 14 day quarantine for US Citizens / tourists from 6 American States provided these visitors can provide evidence that they tested negative for the Corona 48 hours prior to arrival and carry required medical insurance. I guess some country had to be the first to reopen. This sounds like a pretty good policy not just for tourists and mongers, but for everyone concerned. I hope the Philippine government gets smart and copies it. Costa Rica is a very beautiful country and it has many great beaches. I used to spend a lot of time there when it was really a treasure back in the 70's & '80's before I discovered SE Asia. Today I prefer Asian girls, however, 555. Still, this is good news. It shows that there is light at the end of the tunnel as more countries follow suit and open their borders to healthy visitors, lower fatality rates are being achieved due to a greater knowledge of the virus, yes even in America (OMG), and quite possibly there will be a vaccine by the end of the year.
BTW, I live in Florida, which is one of the 6 states that is not initially on the list of states allowed into CR in September. Yeah, we have pretty high Corona numbers and it amazes me frankly, but the vast majority of Floridians know how to take care of themselves and stay healthy. We don't want the government to tell us what we have to do. We like out freedom here.
An early start. Thailand planning a small tourist re-opening.
[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/thailand-reopening-safe-and-sealed-covid/index.html[/URL]
Well. Anyone notice the news that over a quarter of New Delhi residents are suspected to have been infected with Covid19? That is one country that is actively practicing "don't test don't tell". As well as forcing a mass migration of poor workers during the beginning of the epidemic. Images of officials hosing the trapped and stranded victims.
[QUOTE=Amanut;2478065]Not funny at all. In Canada we are barely keeping a lid on the virus. Barely. So many are worried about their rights on things like wearing a mask or holding large parties that the virus keeps percolating just below the surface here. Governors in the northern US states have been putting pressure on the Canadian Government to reopen the Canadian boarders. Thankfully to date this has been rejected. Canadians recognize that the last thing Canadians want is to have that stew circulated and brought across our boarders to Canada in greater numbers.
Americans are known for their arrogance of flouting the law once they gain entry to Canada. Right now, one of the few reasons they are allowed into Canada without quarantine is to drive directly to Alaska and even then they are encouraged to not use hotels and use drive through restaurants only. Recently it has been found that Americans have been using their stated direct trips to take a leisurely sightseeing side trips even stopping in our National Parks. It has become a significant enough problem that the R.C.M.P have started charging Americans with fines in the range of $2,500. And yes Canadians are calling the police when they see American licence plates where they ought not be seen. And yes Canadian authorities are following up..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2478152]An early start. Thailand planning a small tourist re-opening.
[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/thailand-reopening-safe-and-sealed-covid/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Still 14 day quarantine. Bummer. I miss the pre COVID-19 days when you just went though customs and start texting and cutie at hotel when you get there. I guess that is still a ways off. Its a start, I guess.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2478037]Why do you say hate Salty? Did you read the news and see the statistics or do you inhabit a different world where stats and facts are never believed.
Sadly it is fact read the news as it is all there and I state the basics facts unlike many world leaders who seem to think the public are stupid.
Read the news Salty as this gives an insight into the world. I know for a fact that you can't travel to the Philippines as a monger yet as no tourist visas so far, that USA tourists have been dobbed in by others as they don't obey self ISO rules.
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/world/europe/Ireland-americans-break-quarantine.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.thejournal.ie/bars-restaurants-quarantine-5148431-Jul2020/[/URL]
Read those and then Google for others Salty LOL as most places in the world don't allow USA citizens to visit their countries and why should they? Now if we have a vaccine that works then things change but until then I will only see my family in the USA using Skype etc sadly.
I have family in the USA (southern states) some of whom are old / frail and high risk so I read the news and clearly understand that while I would like to go see them I can't and would not risk travel to a country that clearly has no idea how to handle a pandemic.[/QUOTE]
Like I said in my OP, Delta's flights will be contingent on the Philippines (and other countries) opening up. Perhaps I should have said "letting in foreigners, or issuing Visas" to be more clear. The "lol" at the end of your second paragraph led me to believe you were laughing at the misfortune of others. I see now it was about the US Tourist in Ireland.
Of course I believe in facts; they are as ugly as the nose on my face. Here are some more. US doesn't allow citizens of most other countries to visit. Most other countries don't allow citizens of most other countries to visit. The WHO says masks are useless. No, they protect you. No, they protect others from you. The media says Hydroxychloroquine cures! No, it kills! The CDC says that a 14-day travel quarantine is essential. That is, until yesterday.
The motto for 2020 should be "Who the Fuck Knows!" But I agree that the current US Government (both sides of the aisle) has failed the country in this crisis. What I wouldn't give for an Eisenhower, someone with strong leadership, who prioritizes country over party, and has the will and ability to unite. But all that we will get is a Trump or a Biden. Maybe we get what we deserve.
I hope your family stays healthy.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2478082]BTW, I live in Florida, which is one of the 6 states that is not initially on the list of states allowed into CR in September. Yeah, we have pretty high Corona numbers and it amazes me frankly, but the vast majority of Floridians know how to take care of themselves and stay healthy. We don't want the government to tell us what we have to do. We like out freedom here.[/QUOTE]Maybe it depends what your definition of "freedom" is. At one extreme some libertarians think that freedom means no constraints on behavior, "you should be able to do whatever you want. " From another perspective individual freedom ends at the tip of the other guy's nose, and it's government's role to balance out various interests. Did I hear that a judge in Florida recently ruled that the Governor cannot compel schools to open up face-to-face? I suppose the judge's rationale may have been that only local school districts have that authority.
An alternative argument could be that other families, teachers, janitors, lunchroom staff, bus drivers, and administrators have a right not to be forced into covid spreader contexts. Children lack the discipline to not congregate, yell, cough and sneeze, and rub up against each other. There's one guy who keeps insisting that kids are "practically immune. " Not true. Kids' symptoms are less severe, but they are often asymptomatic spreaders. "Wow, let's truck some of this stuff home to grandma. ".
My daughter teaches autistic kids in a state near yours. They have not resisted their Governor's directive for face-to-face instruction. The school district is providing masks for teachers and kids, but they will not mandate wearing them. Teachers would like to do what retail businesses and doctors' offices are doing, putting up plexiglass shields around their work stations, but there is no budget for it. So the only way they'll get plexiglass is if they pay for it themselves. On teachers' salaries, in addition to the money they already spend out of pocket to provide things the school budget doesn't pay for – Kleenex, pens and pencils, snacks, etc. -- and that poor kids' families can't afford. Seems like teachers ought to have some freedom rights in this equation too.
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2478256]Still 14 day quarantine. Bummer. I miss the pre COVID-19 days when you just went though customs and start texting and cutie at hotel when you get there. I guess that is still a ways off. Its a start, I guess.[/QUOTE]Until there is a miracle cure, or a herd immunity of some type, it will be like this (mandated quarantine of foreigners -- some countries repatriating their own citizens are quarantining them also, including Phils). The host country will require the foreigner to agree in advance to a quarantine, to pay for his quarantine, and to pay for any other related expenses prior to departing the country. Without the miracle cure / vaccine or other immunity, this could last for years. Smile.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2478318]My daughter teaches autistic kids in a state near yours. They have not resisted their Governor's directive for face-to-face instruction. The school district is providing masks for teachers and kids, but they will not mandate wearing them. Teachers would like to do what retail businesses and doctors' offices are doing, putting up plexiglass shields around their work stations, but there is no budget for it. So the only way they'll get plexiglass is if they pay for it themselves. On teachers' salaries, in addition to the money they already spend out of pocket to provide things the school budget doesn't pay for Kleenex, pens and pencils, snacks, etc. -- and that poor kids' families can't afford. Seems like teachers ought to have some freedom rights in this equation too.[/QUOTE]I empathize with your daughter's situation. I also feel for the waitresses and grocery store employees among many others that work on the front lines with the public. We live in trying times, but concerning your daughter, you will have to show me where & in what states and counties teachers will be forced to teach in the classroom against their will or face getting fired.
Check out this link to [URL]ClickOrlando.com[/URL] dated August 24th concerning the ruling from a Florida Judge on Mandatory School Openings. The bottom line of this decision is no mandatory anything and no teacher will lose his or her job for refusing to enter a classroom for valid health reasons. I don't know in which state your daughter resides, but I think she will likely wind up with the same freedom as Florida teachers. I could be wrong. If so, let me know. But the Florida case is an example of how issues are decided in a democratic country (small d). There are 3 independent branches of government that act as checks and balances on each other to prevent abuse of power from any particular branch. The President or Governor, the Legislature, and the Judiciary. But you know that. I am just saying it out loud.
[URL]https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/08/24/judge-sides-with-florida-teachers-union-says-districts-should-decide-if-schools-should-reopen/[/URL]
But now, let's take a look at the flip side of this coin where in a different state a different Governor mandated the closing of all fitness centers against the wishes of the owners, the work staff and the customers. A judge ruled that this mandatory closing was unconstitutional too, but then an appellate court overturned that ruling. One owner has refused to close his place. The case will probably end up in the Supreme Court unless the Governor of this state relents which is highly unlikely considering her strong political bias. The owners will most likely prevail in the long run, but at what cost? Their freedom and that of their staff and customers has been infringed upon. IMHO. Furthermore, this small business may go out of business while waiting for justice. So, the situation has become a hot political issue in the state and will have an affect on how the state votes in the upcoming election. It will be very interesting to see which side wins.
Note: We should probably take this discussion somewhere else if we want to continue it. The American Politics thread is the one set aside by Admin. We (myself most definitely included) have drifted more than a few clicks from Philippine General Info.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2478231]Well. Anyone notice the news that over a quarter of New Delhi residents are suspected to have been infected with Covid19? That is one country that is actively practicing "don't test don't tell". As well as forcing a mass migration of poor workers during the beginning of the epidemic. Images of officials hosing the trapped and stranded victims.[/QUOTE]Well, we have another great advice from the US, in this case the CDC (centers for disease control). The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention attempted Thursday to clarify controversial coronavirus testing guidelines published Monday that said people with no symptoms "do not necessarily need a test" even if they were exposed to an infected person.
With all these great advice and examples from the US, UK, and others, everyone will probably get infected once. So PI will have no reason to remain shut. The urge to make money is stronger than urge of the little head.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2478333]Until there is a miracle cure, or a herd immunity of some type, it will be like this (mandated quarantine of foreigners -- some countries repatriating their own citizens are quarantining them also, including Phils). The host country will require the foreigner to agree in advance to a quarantine, to pay for his quarantine, and to pay for any other related expenses prior to departing the country. Without the miracle cure / vaccine or other immunity, this could last for years. Smile.[/QUOTE]I must say that a lot of people are not thinking this through. It is extremely unlikely a QUALITY vaccine will be available to all of us in 2020. The virus will stay and many more will be infected. I do not think the herd approach will be achieved in 1-2 years. However, I am very optimistic! The reason is governments and the population will gradually realize that the virus is very contagious but has a very low death rate. In Philippines the total deaths so far has been 3000 out of a population of 120 million. That 3000 was almost certainly mainly old, frail or people with serious secondary health issues. Next year people will see that there has been a massive overreaction to the virus and sanity will prevail and things will normalize. Unfortunately, in the interim many businesses will go bust and it will take time for many to overcome their fear and trauma.
Don't Test, Don't Tell. Problem solved?. Because ignoring the problem always works right?
Looks like they are paying people to NOT have covid. Genius plan. Looks like they have this under control.
"Barangays with no virus case for 2 months will get P100,000 – Mayor Isko".
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtLx9SnK6SI[/URL]
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2480027]"Barangays with no virus case for 2 months will get P100,000 Mayor Isko".
[/QUOTE]As if that's not going straight into the barangay's captain family pocket.
I came across this site, [URL]https://www.dima.ph/[/URL] it is an on line reproductive health site. While it mostly sells condoms and birth control pills it has a generic Viagra pill for 4 pills 400 p 50 MG, 100 MG 4 pills 760 p.
You order on line for home delivery, they say one to two days in Metro Manila.
Delivery fee and "doctor consultation" fee extra.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2480096]I came across this site, [URL]https://www.dima.ph/[/URL] it is an on line reproductive health site. While it mostly sells condoms and birth control pills it has a generic Viagra pill for 4 pills 400 p 50 MG, 100 MG 4 pills 760 p.
You order on line for home delivery, they say one to two days in Metro Manila.
Delivery fee and "doctor consultation" fee extra.[/QUOTE]KG you are the best!
760 php (400 MG enough for 1 month daily use) + 100 php (2-3 days shipping) + 100 php (Doctor consultation fee) = 960 php TOTAL.
I will order it closer to my Manila flight so I can get it the day I will arrive.
One question, how trustworthy is this website?
Have you purchase anything from there?
I'm planning to pay with Paypal so I guess my payment will be secure this way.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2480340]KG you are the best!
760 php (400 MG enough for 1 month daily use) + 100 php (2-3 days shipping) + 100 php (Doctor consultation fee) = 960 php TOTAL.
I will order it closer to my Manila flight so I can get it the day I will arrive.
One question, how trustworthy is this website?
Have you purchase anything from there?
I'm planning to pay with Paypal so I guess my payment will be secure this way.[/QUOTE]I have no idea how trustworthy the site is, you can order COD to be safe that at least you get something. I just saw it in the CNN Philippine web site as an article on safe and private family planning. Since I use Cialis, and right now they do not have that or a generic I will have to wait to see if they end up offering that.
Don't forget to bring a pill cutter if you are going to spread the pills out over a month. You may have trouble finding one here. I know Amazon sells lots of them.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2480397]I have no idea how trustworthy the site is, you can order COD to be safe that at least you get something. I just saw it in the CNN Philippine web site as an article on safe and private family planning. Since I use Cialis, and right now they do not have that or a generic I will have to wait to see if they end up offering that.
Don't forget to bring a pill cutter if you are going to spread the pills out over a month. You may have trouble finding one here. I know Amazon sells lots of them.[/QUOTE]Way overpriced IMHO, Lazada has better deals.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2481071]Way overpriced IMHO, Lazada has better deals.[/QUOTE]Well, sunny beaches. Nice work Beavis.
[URL]https://www.lazada.com.ph/catalog/?spm=a2o4l.home.search.2.239e359dyD25sM&q=sildenafil%20100%20mg&_keyori=ss&clickTrackInfo=textId--1119462902632202000__abId--154854__pvid--e2050d06-f444-4ee2-a4c9-b0b15a810257&from=suggest_normal&sugg=sildenafil%20100%20mg_1_1[/URL]
Ano see how you are
[QUOTE=Bushes;2479005]Well, we have another great advice from the US, in this case the CDC (centers for disease control). The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention attempted Thursday to clarify controversial coronavirus testing guidelines published Monday that said people with no symptoms "do not necessarily need a test" even if they were exposed to an infected person.
With all these great advice and examples from the US, UK, and others, everyone will probably get infected once. So PI will have no reason to remain shut. The urge to make money is stronger than urge of the little head.[/QUOTE]There is recently talk from the CDC that a vaccine will be fast tracked at wrap speed, like rendesavir was, in time for the US elections. However, again, the Russian's wrap speed Sputnik beat the US to the punch. That one most likely will not make it outside the US.
It will be interesting. People finally are realizing that the current vaccines in late trials are not going to solve everything. So covid free travels to PI will not be widely available. That silver linings are for those youngsters on the ground in PI. The buffet prices on girls is getting great.
What's a normal temperature range (celcius)? Those hand-held thermal laser scanners that they use almost everywhere here, pointed at your forehead. What's is a reasonable low or high temp reading that would allow someone from entering a mall, government office, or business? What temp is considered too high (fever)?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2482365]What's a normal temperature range (celcius)? Those hand-held thermal laser scanners that they use almost everywhere here, pointed at your forehead. What's is a reasonable low or high temp reading that would allow someone from entering a mall, government office, or business? What temp is considered too high (fever)?[/QUOTE]36 to 37 is OK. 37 is considered "normal". 38 would warrant investigation. 35 is borderline hypothermia.
For the over 65 drop those by 1 degree.
Note that the cheap IR readers are +/- 3 degrees.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2482365]What's a normal temperature range (celcius)? Those hand-held thermal laser scanners that they use almost everywhere here, pointed at your forehead. What's is a reasonable low or high temp reading that would allow someone from entering a mall, government office, or business? What temp is considered too high (fever)?[/QUOTE]Let's assume they start to apply the same stringency with which they do bag searches at malls. Anyone below 39 c is probably going to get waved into a mall. But if the same minimum wage security employee is wearing a white lab coat or scrubs, then maybe their will be a 5 second delay as they consider looking intelligent to let you still pass because you are a foreigner.
Very sad.
[URL]https://www.laprensalatina.com/philippines-will-not-open-to-intl-tourism-until-2nd-half-of-2021/?fbclid=IwAR0mDgc1ceM0kZBMf5hM6VsKAIA_NNlbKHvnz5fgJqyjDIjwxismpwANn6Y[/URL]
Body Temperature measurements are better than nothing but I would not totally rely on it. Some people run hot or cold normally. Pity those like the veteran with shrapnel trying to get through an airport metal detector. Girls run hot at certain times. Many super spreaders are documented to have gone through multiple temperature check points. Some show no symptoms at all. Even those sniffer machines are not totally reliable. A dog does much better.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2482372]36 to 37 is ok. 37 is considered "normal". 38 would warrant investigation. 35 is borderline hypothermia.
For the over 65 drop those by 1 degree.
Note that the cheap IR readers are +/- 3 degrees.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=WestCoast1;2482365]What's a normal temperature range (celcius)? Those hand-held thermal laser scanners that they use almost everywhere here, pointed at your forehead. What's is a reasonable low or high temp reading that would allow someone from entering a mall, government office, or business? What temp is considered too high (fever)?[/QUOTE]
Out of nowhere, one senior member Pmed me to tell me that I m in a grave situation mongering right now in Cebu Philippines and he is much safer in his home country as if death is caused exclusively by covid.
I don't even know this guy nor have any convo w him directly or indirectly before.
He is too naive to think that covid can be spread by fxxking pros only.
Having blue balls is one thing, choking on sour grapes isn't healthy.
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[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2482485]Very sad.
[URL]https://www.laprensalatina.com/philippines-will-not-open-to-intl-tourism-until-2nd-half-of-2021/?fbclid=IwAR0mDgc1ceM0kZBMf5hM6VsKAIA_NNlbKHvnz5fgJqyjDIjwxismpwANn6Y[/URL][/QUOTE]And for those dreamers from earlier in the year stating they would be there by October seems the naysayers were correct and had their brains in their big head not the smaller one LOL.
Even after opening up am sure some countries will remain 'persona non grata' such as USA, Brazil, India who seem unable / unwilling to control the spread of COVID in their countries as the Philippines can't afford another lockdown or COVID wave in 2021.
[QUOTE=Datiao;2482604]Out of nowhere, one senior member Pmed me to tell me that I m in a grave situation mongering right now in Cebu Philippines and he is much safer in his home country as if death is caused exclusively by covid.
I don't even know this guy nor have any convo w him directly or indirectly before.
He is too naive to think that covid can be spread by fxxking pros only.
Having blue balls is one thing, choking on sour grapes isn't healthy. Go get a life.[/QUOTE]Reporting here on the open board the gist or essence of what the other person sent you in PM is one thing. Openly reporting the other person's identity is wrong. Private Messages are sent with the understanding that they will be kept: PRIVATE. If you thought his message was out of line, you could have reported it to the board Admin.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2482622]Reporting here on the open board the gist or essence of what the other person sent you in PM is one thing. Openly reporting the other person's identity is wrong. Private Messages are sent with the understanding that they will be kept: PRIVATE. If you thought his message was out of line, you could have reported it to the board Admin.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I should left his ID out. Noted.
I took a shortcut to deter him to bother me again.
Some exposure may be good for him too to exercise discretion.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2482619]And for those dreamers from earlier in the year stating they would be there by October seems the naysayers were correct and had their brains in their big head not the smaller one LOL.
Even after opening up am sure some countries will remain 'persona non grata' such as USA, Brazil, India who seem unable / unwilling to control the spread of COVID in their countries as the Philippines can't afford another lockdown or COVID wave in 2021.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update WR. I guess we better find other places to dip our wicks, for another year at least, if this is true.
[QUOTE=Nightrider1;2483013]Thanks for the update WR. I guess we better find other places to dip our wicks, for another year at least, if this is true.[/QUOTE]I'm settling in to my home town routines.
[QUOTE=Nightrider1;2483013]Thanks for the update WR. I guess we better find other places to dip our wicks, for another year at least, if this is true.[/QUOTE]Saw article couple days ago, no tourism will be allowed in Philippines until 2nd quarter of 2021. OMG! I hope they revise this. Being stuck in USA, I will be ready to shoot myself by then.
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2483675]Saw article couple days ago, no tourism will be allowed in Philippines until 2nd quarter of 2021. OMG! I hope they revise this. Being stuck in USA, I will be ready to shoot myself by then.[/QUOTE]There are about 183 other countries on the planet to visit. No need to call yourself stuck.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2483702]There are about 183 other countries on the planet to visit. No need to call yourself stuck.[/QUOTE]Problem for USA is that those 183 countries won't take the risk and your virus rates.
The Ph saying they will be closed until end of 2020 is at best a guess. Who would have such foresight and exactness? Better to just consider that the world is uncertain at the moment and plan for what is in place at the moment.
Doesn't sound like Ph is much fun a the moment anyway.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2483702]There are about 183 other countries on the planet to visit. No need to call yourself stuck.[/QUOTE]But lots of them not open to foreign travel either. (Highly dependent on country of origin and countries visited recently.).
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2483702]There are about 183 other countries on the planet to visit. No need to call yourself stuck.[/QUOTE]True if You are a traveler looking to sightsee. For our mongering pleasure we need GFE, subservient, not too expensive, preferably fresh, young, pleasing mentality girls. Not too many countries left with these qualities of girls.
[QUOTE=BrizLad;2483717]Problem for USA is that those 183 countries won't take the risk and your virus rates.
[/QUOTE]I don't think that folks in the USA have quite got a grip on how this Covid19 situation will pan out for them in particular. Citizens of the USA, along with those from UK / Brazil / India will be the LAST people allowed into most counties. Even the Philippines. It just ain't going to open up as easily as some seem to have it in their head.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2483702]There are about 183 other countries on the planet to visit. No need to call yourself stuck.[/QUOTE]Stuck if your main diet is Filipina pussy and maybe you find solace in Africa, DR, Thailand but if you are addicted to pinay pussy you are stuck in many ways.
And why USA people are not welcome apart from the COVID control issue is so many (not just US people I admit) are dumb / stupid / bogan.
[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/14/europe/germany-bavaria-outbreak-coronavirus-intl/index.html[/URL]
Once a vaccine and tests on arrival etc maybe tourist welcome back. The President hinted at this recently saying has to be a vaccine first so mid 2021 maybe if lucky?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2483702]There are about 183 other countries on the planet to visit. No need to call yourself stuck.[/QUOTE]183 countries funny. I've traveled allot of places and nowhere is like Thailand, Vietnam or Philippines and those places we cannot go. Real beauties like I've experienced for 100 bucks or less, I challenge you to do that anywhere else. The US certainly isn't one. My last trip to Vegas saw a oriental the quality of what I get in Asia. How much darling. $2000 short time! HaHaHa you are smoking crack. Sure if you are filthy rich the world is your oyster but for us normal guys S. E. Asia is a unique place that is not comparable to any place on earth.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2483750]True if You are a traveler looking to sightsee. For our mongering pleasure we need GFE, subservient, not too expensive, preferably fresh, young, pleasing mentality girls. Not too many countries left with these qualities of girls.[/QUOTE]True. There are not many options left for mongers of little means to have their marshmallows sucked. Even before the Wuhan flu, the existing options were dwindling rapidly. The world of cheap sucky fucky is gone. Mongers will have to pay more for whatever remains. If they cannot afford to pay for a root at home, they will find themselves very ill prepared for higher prices abroad.
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2483951]183 countries funny. I've traveled allot of places and nowhere is like Thailand, Vietnam or Philippines and those places we cannot go. Real beauties like I've experienced for 100 bucks or less, I challenge you to do that anywhere else. [/QUOTE]Challenge accepted. Brazil. You can experience real beauties for even under $50. $20 as well. And get this. They even have Asian Brazilians. And Brazil is open to Americans. Dare I mention Colombia, which is supposed to open in the next couple of weeks. And the infrastructure is even better in those 2 countries.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2484049]Challenge accepted. Brazil. ....[/QUOTE]Brazil and USA, two countries leading the race to the Covid bottom.
No thanks I will stay here in the Philippines.
[QUOTE=Stykler;2483806] Citizens of the USA, along with those from UK / Brazil / India will be the LAST people allowed into most counties. [/QUOTE]Perhaps add Saudi Arabia to the list.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2483830]And why USA people are not welcome apart from the COVID control issue is so many (not just US people I admit) are dumb / stupid / bogan.
Once a vaccine and tests on arrival etc maybe tourist welcome back. The President hinted at this recently saying has to be a vaccine first so mid 2021 maybe if lucky?[/QUOTE]With herd mentality and disregard of science, there is talk of FDA approving vaccine (s) before completion of trials. Sputnik launched first.
US people will be one of the first to be allowed to travel for various reasons. In fact many are travelling outside US already.
I am curious how long PI can keep its doors closed. Thailand is moving towards opening up. Exporting PI people is bringing in some remittances but worldwide that number is down.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2484242]..... Exporting PI people is bringing in some remittances but worldwide that number is down.[/QUOTE]It does appear that the remittance amounts are what is keeping the peso high against other currencies. I would have thought that there would have been a significant drop in its value by now.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2484242]
US people will be one of the first to be allowed to travel for various reasons.
[/QUOTE]Would you care to enunciate those reasons?
[QUOTE=Stykler;2483806]I don't think that folks in the USA have quite got a grip on how this Covid19 situation will pan out for them in particular. Citizens of the USA, along with those from UK / Brazil / India will be the LAST people allowed into most counties. Even the Philippines. It just ain't going to open up as easily as some seem to have it in their head.[/QUOTE]Currently, these are the countries where US citizens can travel with no restrictions:
Albania.
Belarus.
Brazil.
Mexico.
North Macedonia.
Serbia.
Turkey.
Zambia.
[QUOTE=Docwiltro;2484422]Currently, these are the countries where US citizens can travel with no restrictions:
[/QUOTE]Where did you get this list? Maybe you should qualify what you mean by restrictions, because US citizens have been going to Dominican Republic for a couple of months now but I do not see it on your list.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2484312]It does appear that the remittance amounts are what is keeping the peso high against other currencies. I would have thought that there would have been a significant drop in its value by now.[/QUOTE]It is a mystery. Like the all time high for the Dow. The airline stock prices. The herd mentality or immunity Freudian slup.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2484424]Where did you get this list? Maybe you should qualify what you mean by restrictions, because US citizens have been going to Dominican Republic for a couple of months now but I do not see it on your list.[/QUOTE]Updated as of September 16th: [URL]https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/07/travel/us-travel-bubble/index.html[/URL].
[QUOTE=Docwiltro;2484457]Updated as of September 16th: [URL]https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/07/travel/us-travel-bubble/index.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]So many lists to choose from.
[URL]https://www.kayak.com/travel-restrictions[/URL]
[QUOTE=Docwiltro;2484457]Updated as of September 16th: [URL]https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/07/travel/us-travel-bubble/index.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]CNN is fake news.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2484242]Sputnik launched first.[/QUOTE]Sent to me by a friend, Amusing.
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[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2484556]Sent to me by a friend, Amusing.FT.[/QUOTE]Yes. Hilarious, and at a time when most of us need a little humor to get through the day.
[QUOTE=Docwiltro;2484457]Updated as of September 16th: [URL]https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/07/travel/us-travel-bubble/index.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]US passport / certain people can actually get to more places. Situation changes rapidly. Like my previous post about United Airlines selling scalper high tickets for flights they never planned to operate to repatriate Chinese Students. Many of those students had to buy multiple over priced tickets with dubious prospect of getting refunded for the cancelled flight tickets.
British tourists were likewise caught off guard while on vacation with revised quarantine measures implemented in Britain in short notice.
Slightly better for business travellers from big companies because more resources can be used to find a favourable solution.
Problem now is politicians cannot be proven wrong but science can be.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2484569]Problem now is politicians cannot be proven wrong but science can be.[/QUOTE]Right in a nutshell, and it's bass ackwards.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2484049]Challenge accepted. Brazil. You can experience real beauties for even under $50. $20 as well. And get this. They even have Asian Brazilians. And Brazil is open to Americans. Dare I mention Colombia, which is supposed to open in the next couple of weeks. And the infrastructure is even better in those 2 countries.[/QUOTE]True, didn't think of those. I've heard S. America does have good possibilities. Have not tried that part of the world but reading post quality there is quite good for a reasonable price. My preference and I'm sure others are the Asian cuties. Their GFE is unmatched from my experience. Do Latinos provide similar, I'm sure they do if you are familiar with that market. S. E. Asia I can just step off the plane and hit the ground running as over the years many contacts. South America I would be starting from scratch but its a idea if things don't improve. You must admit the slant eyed cuties have a exotic quality, but to each his own. I think its going to be a long wait for that again.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2484569].....
Problem now is politicians cannot be proven wrong but science can be.[/QUOTE]They can be proven wrong, but then they cry FAKE NEWS.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2484049]Challenge accepted. Brazil. You can experience real beauties for even under $50. $20 as well. And get this. They even have Asian Brazilians. And Brazil is open to Americans. Dare I mention Colombia, which is supposed to open in the next couple of weeks. And the infrastructure is even better in those 2 countries.[/QUOTE]Asian brazilian? Fuck that sounds awesome!
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2484600]I've heard S. America does have good possibilities. Have not tried that part of the world but reading post quality there is quite good for a reasonable price. My preference and I'm sure others are the Asian cuties. Their GFE is unmatched from my experience. [/QUOTE]LOL. It may be time for some new experiences then because after the first 15 minutes with a Brazilian chick you would be asking her to marry you or think you were already married to her. Sometimes you have to pay them extra to get them to stop. And to top it all off, nobody's cow dies or anything like that afterwards.
[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2484736]LOL. It may be time for some new experiences then because after the first 15 minutes with a Brazilian chick you would be asking her to marry you or think you were already married to her. Sometimes you have to pay them extra to get them to stop. And to top it all off, nobody's cow dies or anything like that afterwards.
[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro[/URL][/QUOTE]These are nice looking women, but these ads don't seem to offer much evidence of GFE. There are attractive women in porn too, but what happens in those videos is about 360 degrees distant from GFE.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2484772]These are nice looking women, but these ads don't seem to offer much evidence of GFE. There are attractive women in porn too, but what happens in those videos is about 360 degrees distant from GFE.[/QUOTE]LOL. Let all the posters in that thread be the evidence. And if it was 360 degrees from GFE then it would still be GFE. But I get that you meant 180. Plenty of porno stars to go around there at the same normal cheap prices as all the other girls. Most guys that go there have fucked several, myself included. All I am saying is the same that most would say: if you really want to fuck then you go to Brazil. If you are a lazy, half-ass fucker then those chicks will drain you and leave you in a ditch somewhere. That country is the major league of fucking. There is no dodging cum like these chicks in other countries. They take theirs straight no chaser and beg for more.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2484779]And if it was 360 degrees from GFE then it would still be GFE. But I get that you meant 180. [/QUOTE]LOL back at you! How do you know I didn't mean doing a full 360 in search of non-existent GFE?
Can you get along there without knowing Portuguese, or not so much?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2484779]LOL. Let all the posters in that thread be the evidence. And if it was 360 degrees from GFE then it would still be GFE. But I get that you meant 180. Plenty of porno stars to go around there at the same normal cheap prices as all the other girls. Most guys that go there have fucked several, myself included. All I am saying is the same that most would say: if you really want to fuck then you go to Brazil. If you are a lazy, half-ass fucker then those chicks will drain you and leave you in a ditch somewhere. That country is the major league of fucking. There is no dodging cum like these chicks in other countries. They take theirs straight no chaser and beg for more.[/QUOTE]Brazil is a country for the pro mongers. The lazy ass, shy, scared of the dark ones will get eaten alive there. They best stick with Costa Rica. Brazil isn't for everyone.
My buddy went to Costa Rica last year and said it was definitely condom only. I think Brazil is the same from what I've heard. The Philippines is known for, uh, NOT that. Add to that the fact that the girls speak English and that you can actually communicate and vibe with them, makes it my destination of choice. I can't wait to get back.
[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2485452]My buddy went to Costa Rica last year and said it was definitely condom only. I think Brazil is the same from what I've heard. The Philippines is known for, uh, NOT that. Add to that the fact that the girls speak English and that you can actually communicate and vibe with them, makes it my destination of choice. I can't wait to get back.[/QUOTE]OMG! A post about PH in the PH forum!
I can't wait either. I have 6 girls lined up. Plus one 20 yo cherry girl refereed by her 30 yo Tita. Hope I can get there before her 21st birthday.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2485480]OMG! A post about PH in the PH forum![/QUOTE]The problem with the lack of reports is there is not much to report during lockdown. Obviously the gogo bars are closed, as is LAC and the Burgos FL street scene. The only thing left to report on is the province scene and Tinder-type girls, which has been done. I have a handful of regulars at this point tossing my salad routinely. Very satisfying, but not much worth reporting.
Whoops, I actually meant Colombia. The videos looked like a great party scene but if my penis can't touch a vagina I'm not interested.
[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2485452]My buddy went to Costa Rica [/QUOTE]
Thinking about the future. Has there so far been any dumping of real estate as mongers head back to the western homelands?
How about resort land at Siargao? I heard they had a boom last few years when boracay was closed, then boracay reopened and then later covid hit. Presumably lots of joints must be feeling the pain of over investing at the top of the market.
How about the Manila condo market? Must be a mess.
Any intel appreciated.
BL.
[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2485528]Whoops, I actually meant Colombia. The videos looked like a great party scene but if my penis can't touch a vagina I'm not interested.[/QUOTE]Flights to Colombia started back yesterday and even though they had one of the strictest lockdowns, many mongers were still reporting daily of their penises touching vaginas while they were "stuck" in the country.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2485480]
I can't wait either. I have 6 girls lined up. Plus one 20 yo cherry girl refereed by her 30 yo Tita. Hope I can get there before her 21st birthday.[/QUOTE]Don't hold your breath.
I have a friend who works in Immigration in Intramuros.
All priority is being given to (a) returning OFWs (b) anyone with family ties and / or a residence visa (13 A) who can validly justify entry with a visa obtained at a PH embassy (c) business-linked people who have established bona fide business in the PH and who have obtained a visa at an overseas Embassy and (d) diplomats.
He joked that NOBODY else wants to visit the Philippines right now for genuine tourism since most things are closed. He then joked further "that the only people who want to come to PH at present are horny guys who want to take advantage of girls who are poor", and we're not likely to let them in any time soon. So unless you're in (a) - (d), please fall in line.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2485694]Don't hold your breath.
I have a friend who works in Immigration in Intramuros.
All priority is being given to (a) returning OFWs (b) anyone with family ties and / or a residence visa (13 A) who can validly justify entry with a visa obtained at a PH embassy (c) business-linked people who have established bona fide business in the PH and who have obtained a visa at an overseas Embassy and (d) diplomats.
He joked that NOBODY else wants to visit the Philippines right now for genuine tourism since most things are closed. He then joked further "that the only people who want to come to PH at present are horny guys who want to take advantage of girls who are poor", and we're not likely to let them in any time soon. So unless you're in (a) - (d), please fall in line.[/QUOTE]Covid19 is moving towards poorer countries like the Philippines [URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/URL]#countries and these guys are thinking of Pinays lining up to chew on their marshmallows. Oil prices are in the toilet and a massive expulsion of OFWs could be on the cards, throwing the Philippines into utter turmoil and these pathetic urchins think their marshmallows are of consequence. I have been holidaying in Europe and small firms are being crucified with the cops and their authorities on their case. Only for the kindness of strangers, Germans in particular, these folk would be screwed. Even if Duterte wanted to open up Angeles for the small minority who benefit from it, the WHO mafia would stop him.
A major reset is on. The weather here in Europe is great unless you are a virus but the virus marches onwards. In my owsn case, I am hoping for one last hurrah in the Philippines, if we are ever allowed back in. Your thoughts on dates (2021/2 etc) would be welcome. I consider places like Angeles to be now part of history. Hollywood might make a movie of it sometimes.
As for my own marshmallow, I am going through options but this universal celibacy is no laughing matter. Providers have taken to the hills and one has to be dubious of those who are still open for business. I remember when HIV was ravaging India, the hookers were still going at it full tilt. I have even been eyeing up junkeys, who are so strung out they should turn you off sex forever.
I feel the problem is we have populists of left and right for politicians and civil servants who who were born without brains or initiative running the show.
Any PRACTICAL advice / indicators welcome. I don't even see planes advertising trips now. I had three planes rides cancelled on me in the last month. God knows who can survive this ongoing mass house arrest.
[QUOTE=BrizLad;2485578]Thinking about the future. Has there so far been any dumping of real estate as mongers head back to the western homelands?
How about resort land at Siargao? I heard they had a boom last few years when boracay was closed, then boracay reopened and then later covid hit. Presumably lots of joints must be feeling the pain of over investing at the top of the market.
How about the Manila condo market? Must be a mess.[/QUOTE]My girlfriend and her partners had to let their new bed & breakfast in Siargao go as well as their shop at Mall of Asia. Fucked up.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2485694] He then joked further "that the only people who want to come to PH at present are horny guys who want to take advantage of girls who are poor", and we're not likely to let them in any time soon. [/QUOTE]What a sour attitude. Given the abundance of poor girls in the Philippines, he oughta be willing to share. You'd think some of those NGO do-gooder types must have gotten to him.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2485741] I don't even see planes advertising trips now. I had three planes rides cancelled on me in the last month. [/QUOTE]Airlines are signaling major layoffs.
Philippines extends state of calamity for one year amid COVID-19 spread.
Source: Xinhua.
2020-09-18 19:27:37.
Editor: huaxia.
MANILA, Sept. 18 (Xinhua) -- Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has extended a state of calamity for a year amid the spike of COVID-19 cases and deaths in the country, the government said on Friday.
Duterte declared a state of national calamity for six months in mid-March as the country strengthened its response to the pandemic.
"I, hereby extended the declared state of calamity throughout the Philippines for a period of one year, effective September 13,2020, to September 12,2021, unless earlier lifted or extended as circumstance may warrant," read the proclamation that Duterte signed on Wednesday but was released to the media on Friday.
The proclamation said the extension will, among others, "effectively afford the national government, as well as local government units (LGUs), ample latitude to continue utilizing appropriate funds, including the quick response fund, in their disaster preparedness and response efforts to contain the spread of COVID-19, monitor and control prices of basic necessities and prime commodities, and provide basic services to the affected populations. ".
The Philippines continues to grapple with a surging number of COVID-19 cases despite the imposition since mid-March of varying degrees of lockdown measures that shut down 75 percent of the economy.
The Philippines now has 279,526 confirmed COVID-19 cases, including 4,830 deaths and 208,790 recoveries. Enditem.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;2485694]Don't hold your breath.
<snip> and (d) diplomats.[/QUOTE]Diplomats, priests and NGO do gooder types are the biggest mongers on the planets. Hahahaha. They will certainly make sure that no poor LBFM starves.
[QUOTE=Datiao;2485975].....
"I, hereby extended the declared state of calamity throughout the Philippines for a period of one year, effective September 13,2020, to September 12,2021, unless earlier lifted or extended as circumstance may warrant," .....[/QUOTE]Unless earlier lifted or extended as the circumstance may warrant is the key wording. While we can take a clue as to how long the government expects the impact of the virus to last, that does not mean travel will be restricted this long or that tourists will not be allowed. As I understand a state of calamity simply allows the government to exercise additional powers during that period. These powers may be used well into the new normal or beyond for economic reasons.
Populist politicians (ie 99% of them) sing from the same hymn sheet. There is no way mongers wil be allowed in soon and, if they were, they would be blamed for Covid spikes and the shake downs would be horrendous. I would actually say some elements in Pinoy society are happy with this.
Duterte is not going to risk Angeles or Makati blowing up in his face. They are small; beans compared to international remittances in any event. The clock is being resent. Reality is being dispensed with and virtual is in. Europe is a mess with quarantine and other rules changing from day to day. I am under self quarantine myself but, more sadly, am confined to barracks as we cannot go anywhere or bonk anyone. Talk of going to the Philippines is akin to going to the moon, or Africa in the 1930's.
Jollibee days are over.
[QUOTE=Datiao;2485975]Philippines extends state of calamity for one year amid COVID-19 spread.
Source: Xinhua.
2020-09-18 19:27:37.
Editor: huaxia.
MANILA, Sept. 18 (Xinhua) -- Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has extended a state of calamity for a year amid the spike of COVID-19 cases and deaths in the country, the government said on Friday.
Duterte declared a state of national calamity for six months in mid-March as the country strengthened its response to the pandemic.
"I, hereby extended the declared state of calamity throughout the Philippines for a period of one year, effective September 13,2020, to September 12,2021, unless earlier lifted or extended as circumstance may warrant," read the proclamation that Duterte signed on Wednesday but was released to the media on Friday..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2485980]As I understand a state of calamity simply allows the government to exercise additional powers during that period. These powers may be used well into the new normal or beyond for economic reasons.[/QUOTE]I think that's exactly right. In particular, declaring a state of calamity authorizes local government units and national agencies to draw down resources from the national government for response, recovery, and mitigation costs.
Interestingly, the case and death numbers indicate that the Philippines has a 1.7% fatality rate among those that contract the virus. Globally that rate is currently 3%. Perhaps the Philippines is doing a better than average job of responding to known cases.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2486041]I think that's exactly right. In particular, declaring a state of calamity authorizes local government units and national agencies to draw down resources from the national government for response, recovery, and mitigation costs.
Interestingly, the case and death numbers indicate that the Philippines has a 1.7% fatality rate among those that contract the virus. Globally that rate is currently 3%. Perhaps the Philippines is doing a better than average job of responding to known cases.[/QUOTE]In March, 6 months of calamity was declared and now extended for another 1 year.
I think more like they are giving up of really bringing down the virus numbers, rather more concerned of an economy meltdown, solely pinning the hope of vaccine.
The GCQ status instead of ECQ in NCR attest to that even the virus cases are averaging about 1500 daily.
I live in cebu city and it has done well in bringing down the cases from daily few hundreds to present 30's or so by implementing ECQ from April to June and now we are in MGCQ. Thanks mainly to actions by authorities strict Quarantine measures and apprehend / penalise violators.
But yesterday when returning from shopping for my groceries, I passed by an area which caters vans to passengers for near provincial travel.
There were at least 10 persons including the van personnel and passengers who were not wearing masks or have them pulled down below their nose or mouth.
And about 20 m away sits the security who pretend nothing happened.
I did not see any police or army uniformed person else I would definitely make a complain.
I guessed they thought that it's MGCQ now and they can be complacent since the virus cases are low.
Duterte knows his country men very well that there are many stubborn pigs that make his covid fight very tough. Maybe that is why he permit the shooting of extreme violators that retaliate posing danger.
I do hope cebu does not go back to ECQ cause of these irresponsible hopeless idiots but we know very well how these pigs are and behave.
The situation in NCR is very much worse.
Even Vietnam, that is top in covid cases control is facing a surge in cases.
Tourist travel to Philippines or even Vietnam is not realistic for a long time and worst if you are from a country w rampant covid issues.
[QUOTE=Datiao;2486164] Duterte knows his country men very well that there are many stubborn pigs that make his covid fight very tough. Maybe that is why he permit the shooting of extreme violators that retaliate posing danger.[/QUOTE]My first visit to the Philippines was for five months in 2006 and 2007. An interesting thing I observed were signs posted in government offices, health clinics, and pharmacy counters that read, "Fall in Line." This is odd wording; more typical instructions in English-speaking countries would be "Form a line." I asked various Filipinos what they believed to be the origin of this wording. Nobody knew. The one place that "fall in line" has been used is in the American military. It was a simple command given to instruct troops, for example, to line up for the mess hall or mail call. I suggested to a few older Filipinos that perhaps these words originated from American occupying forces immediately after WWII, like "fall in line" to get the food or supplies we're giving out. Lacking other explanations, they agreed that this made sense.
The problem with "Fall in Line," is that many Filipinos don't do it. Invariably when I stand in a "Fall in Line" pharmacy line, some Filipino or Filipina will come in later, notice the long line, and slip around further down the pharmacy counter and try to get the attention of other workers back in the medicine dispensing area. Often it works.
The same thing holds for driving in lanes in a multi-lane highway. Filipino drivers often straddle two lanes, perhaps because it offers greater opportunities to move ahead quickly in one of the two lanes if space opens up and to block others behind you from overtaking you. It also applies to basic "right of way" rules. In most countries a vehicle entering from a side street yields right of way to other vehicles already in the closest lane of the through street that they're trying to enter. Not necessarily so in the Philippines. Here the rule of thumb is "whoever gets the front of his vehicle out in front of the other guy's vehicle has right of way." That is, you yield to the guy cutting in ahead of you so as to avoid an accident from hitting him.
What you are observing about Filipino non-compliance with mask mandates and other covid rules is simply another form of "Filipinos don't fall in line."
[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2485528]Whoops, I actually meant Colombia. The videos looked like a great party scene but if my penis can't touch a vagina I'm not interested.[/QUOTE]Colombian girls do allow bareback if you fuck them once or twice.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2486182]
What you are observing about Filipino non-compliance with mask mandates and other covid rules is simply another form of "Filipinos don't fall in line."[/QUOTE]Your examples are just a matter of gaining petty advantages. No big consequences.
These dick heads has been experiencing for the past 6 months the effects of the covid that cause thousands of lost lives, great economic impact that leads to huge loss of income and hunger.
The Quarantine lock out from normal living etc etc.
But chose to be ignorant that their stupidity of simple not wearing mask can cause another recurring wave of infection which will return them to the same dire situations.
[QUOTE=Datiao;2486224]Your examples are just a matter of gaining petty advantages. No big consequences.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing you are not a native English speaker. "Falling in line" has another metaphorical meaning in English that equates with compliance and obedience. My point was that Filipinos often find ways to resist complying with authority, rules, and even laws in many social contexts.
[QUOTE=Datiao;2486224]
But chose to be ignorant that their stupidity of simple not wearing mask can cause another recurring wave of infection which will return them to the same dire situations.[/QUOTE]Actually it won't make much difference if they wear a mask or not. The virus is so small that it will go right through it. Unless it's a FFP2 or IIR mask, but that is most likely not the case.
The majority of the masks that people wear worldwide offer very little protection.
SambyFun, please clear out your inbox.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2486290]Actually it won't make much difference if they wear a mask or not. The virus is so small that it will go right through it. Unless it's a FFP2 or IIR mask, but that is most likely not the case.
The majority of the masks that people wear worldwide offer very little protection.[/QUOTE]The masks people wear are to protect other people from those who have the virus sending contaminated aerosols throughout a room or surfaces. To protect the weara they need to be ones with close seal and exhaust valves which keep the fit but don't protect others.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2486290]Actually it won't make much difference if they wear a mask or not. The virus is so small that it will go right through it. Unless it's a FFP2 or IIR mask, but that is most likely not the case.
The majority of the masks that people wear worldwide offer very little protection.[/QUOTE]How does the country u are in now deal with this issue? Is it mandatory for masking ?
I think It does make a great difference versus not masking, maybe not as foolproof as the mask you mentioned.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2485993]Populist politicians (ie 99% of them) sing from the same hymn sheet. There is no way mongers will be allowed in soon and, if they were, they would be blamed for Covid spikes and the shake downs would be horrendous. I would actually say some elements in Pinoy society are happy with this.
Duterte is not going to risk Angeles or Makati blowing up in his face. They are small; beans compared to international remittances in any event. The clock is being resent. Reality is being dispensed with and virtual is in. Europe is a mess with quarantine and other rules changing from day to day. I am under self quarantine myself but, more sadly, am confined to barracks as we cannot go anywhere or bonk anyone. Talk of going to the Philippines is akin to going to the moon, or Africa in the 1930's.
Jollibee days are over.[/QUOTE]Not to be too cynical, but IMO things will probably begin to ease up in regards to travel when the Philippine Fiscal year is over and a tally can be done on the lower amount of remittances sent back from those overseas workers who may have had to work "on their backs" to make ends meet. Same goes for those tourist $$ that flow into places like Angeles, Subic and other areas. Maybe one fiscal year can be sustained, but a long term reduction in that type of money flow will begin to change political minds. Same as in places like Singapore, Thailand and other popular mongering locations. Not being able to send OWA out to other parts of the world to replace those that are out there who have stopped or moved on, and the whole cycle of revenue being brought in by bars and clubs can only be missed for so long. Don't let them fool you into thinking that it isn't a lot of money, because if it wasn't, and those do gooders had their way many places would have been closed a long time ago.
Just like the current US election cycle shows, people will use this crisis to get what they want. Case in point the LA Public Health director being caught on the microphone talking about opening the schools after the November 3 elections, as if by that magic date if Trump loses all of a sudden the virus will go away. Not making light of the COVID, nor is this some global plot against Trump, but a politician will do what they can to get as much power and money for themselves and screw the people. Emergency declarations mean more money flow from the government, and for those who work the system they know how to "work the system" and get as much of that excess as they can until those at the top realize that overall more needs to be coming in from other sources.
My long term guess, by the summer of 2021 things will start getting better. By late summer early fall of 2021 travel will see steady increases so that by late 2021 there will be an increase in flights and travel. How can I say this? Winter Olympics in China in 2022 and they could not live it down if they cancelled like Tokyo in 2020. Things will "miraculously" get better by then for the Games to begin.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2486290]Actually it won't make much difference if they wear a mask or not. The virus is so small that it will go right through it. Unless it's a FFP2 or IIR mask, but that is most likely not the case.
The majority of the masks that people wear worldwide offer very little protection.[/QUOTE]That's not what the health officials are saying, mate.
[QUOTE=DCups;2486397]That's not what the health officials are saying, mate.[/QUOTE]The virus is on water droplets that DOES get filtered out.
I wish everyone would stop wining and wear a mask.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2486518]The virus is on water droplets that DOES get filtered out.
I wish everyone would stop wining and wear a mask.[/QUOTE]As with the Covid19 virus, all the whining and whinging will be with us for a long time.
The world is going backwards in many ways and are repeating history. Trump is trying to plunder Tiktok. He only wishes he could declare China as terra nullius.
For the other poster about cutting queues in PI, it happens all over. (I am sure he has tried to cut a queue with a LBFM by offering sweetners. I know I havd).
In New York, there ard many swippers. Taxis, buses, checkout, checkin are common. Swipper no swpping. Actually the South Asians are the worse or maybe there are just more of them in the queues I usually stand in.
The good thing I see is more countries opening up. Lock downs are killing the economy. As with the FAA safety regulations, the systemized balance between cost and lives lost is sinking in and being adopted by many. (I am and will avoid the 737 max).
PI will need to open up to at least to people within its borders. If you are a young stud in the PI, the girl buffet is cheap and plentiful.
PI is still sending their workers around the world. I read that European cruises are going to restart. Many PI ladies work there. Likewises, I assume you can hire a PI lady for some tasks in some countries and bring them out. You might just have to live on that one pussy for a year or 90 days.
China also announced recently that foreign residents who fled are allowed back in.
Likewise Thailand is working on tourist quotas and new guidelines. Google is your friend. Confirm and reconfirm and triple check any announcements. When the left hand does not know the right hand is doing, you as the traveller will get stuck. Thailand is a really good example and I knew a couple people caught there.
Interested to know if any 'business' type of visa and entering the country? Are the call center bosses of Makati and Clark still entering and leaving the country? Probably still subject t quarantine but are they at least getting in / out of the country?
[QUOTE=Datiao;2486339]I think It does make a great difference versus not masking, maybe not as foolproof as the mask you mentioned.[/QUOTE]Only medical masks are foolproof. However, I think most people worldwide are using non-medical masks because medical masks are either not available or too expensive.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2486518]The virus is on water droplets that DOES get filtered out.
[/QUOTE]Only by medical masks. Not or hardly by non-medical masks.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2486633]Only by medical masks. Not or hardly by non-medical masks.[/QUOTE]They have been tested. The micro fibre neck gator that some people wear does not protect. In fact it actually increases aerosol droplets emitted. The thinking is that the fine single layer of fabric breaks up larger droplets into smaller more aerosol sized droplets.
[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/08/us/duke-university-face-mask-test-trnd/index.html[/URL]
I can buy the multi layer home made cloth ones here for 30 p. I have about a dozen, keep a couple in my car, some in my pack, I just wash them in soapy water and hang to dry after each wearing.
No problem.
Remember Mask it or Casket.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2486647]They have been tested. The micro fibre neck gator that some people wear does not protect. In fact it actually increases aerosol droplets emitted. The thinking is that the fine single layer of fabric breaks up larger droplets into smaller more aerosol sized droplets. [/QUOTE]I saw a guy with a beard in a store yesterday whose face covering was a coarse mesh hair net, this in a mandatory mask county. I assumed it was a passive-aggressive political statement.
Many don't wear the mask properly. The virus is airborne. It survives a long time on surfaces. Including food items. It is found on frozen food items.
The practice to promote not testing is widespread including Europe and US. Tests are expensive and take a long time.
Some Indian cities are a great study on the covid19 virus spread. Mumbai slums are over 70% infected with the Covid19 and will show if herd immunity works. With the Taj Mahal and trains running, the virus will spread further. If heat kills the virus, it will be seen in India. So far reported death rates are low. Again, no test no virus.
Since Trump will most likely do away with ballots or have a supreme Court stacked with his appointees to choose the next president, there will probably not be any coordinated effort to contain the spread of the virus. US troops and Marshalls will be called to stop protesters but not to stop covid19 from spreading.
There are some tongue in cheek advice on Covid19 safe sex. I only wish I had a remote island like Berlusconi, and stock it with a harem.
Sex and parties are still available but most are driven underground if there is a lockdown. Otherwise booking through virtual means to arrange a face to face can be done. Many just don't follow the quarantine.
[QUOTE=DCups;2486397]That's not what the health officials are saying, mate.[/QUOTE]The health official's are just trying to give everyone a warm and fuzzy. The mask most are wearing will not stop a virus. A scientist from Geneva a few days ago said the mask looks like chicken wire to a virus. His comments of course will be kept off the media. Tobacco mosic virus was the first discovered in the late 1800's but with regular microscope it could not be seen. Germans in 1931 invented the electron microscope so the virus could be identified. If you look at a typical mask with a regular microscope the weave is very far apart, I know I have one from my college days. I can't even imagine what a mask would look like from a electron microscope perspective, probably like he said. Chicken wire.
If the mask makes you comfy, wear one but it can't stop a virus.
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2487118] A scientist from Geneva a few days ago said the mask looks like chicken wire to a virus. His comments of course will be kept off the media.
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I can't even imagine what a mask would look like from a electron microscope perspective, probably like he said. Chicken wire. If the mask makes you comfy, wear one but it can't stop a virus.[/QUOTE]So your Geneva scientist didn't actually run any experiments, he simply asserted that, because the mask is porous, it's ineffective. Assertions like that, even when they seem logical, don't carry a lot of weight when stacked up against empirical evidence. It strikes me there are perhaps three ways you could actually carry out an empirical study about mask effectiveness.
One, you could hold up masks in a laboratory, intentionally try to blow aerosol particles through them, and measure what gets through.
Two, from testing for covid positive cases you could try to assess what proportions of the positive patients had and had not faithfully worn masks in public. There are several difficulties with this approach. First, people lie, so their answers about mask wearing may not be entirely trustworthy. You would also need an estimate of the proportion of people in the general public wearing masks. If the proportion of positive test mask wearers is approximately the same as mask wearers in the general public, you can assume masks make little or no difference. If mask wearers among the positive testing individuals are a smaller proportion of positive cases as compared to mask wearers in the general public, then masks probably made a difference. This approach is also complicated by having to control for factors like social distancing, lockdowns, and so on.
A third approach is to compare infection rates between areas with and without mask mandates. This seems to be the type of evidence most of the "experts" on TV are citing. There are also some potential threats to validity in this design as well: differences in population density, differences in time of initial onset of spreading in particular settings and so on.
Bar tenders, cab drivers, and some scientists all have opinions, but evidence trumps (no pun intended) opinions.
My bank account has since doubled again (and I expect it to keep doubling as long as this continues) since my last post the bull market lasted until the first week of this month so record levels of money being made and absolutely nothing to spend it on. People with money that do any kind of investing are making more money faster and easier than they ever have, on both sides of the market. I haven't had so much steak for dinner in my history on this planet. That being said I think I'm going to need to buy a second penis just to get enough time getting it in when phils opens back up.
We debating mask effectiveness? Anyone who has fucked a bar fine bareback shouldn't be wearing a mask, these are dirty men doing dairy deeds literally swallowing veteran hookers vaginal secretions. Come on. I only wear masks in phils for what they are used for the stench of human filth that makes its way to the surface from the canals and the filth that comes out of the back end of trikes. Death rate has dropped by 50% in a very short period of time and will continue to do so, so the doom and gloom alarmists that projected the end of the world were off by 50% and that margin is growing. IF the vaccine is only 50% effective you are talking about 50% less people infected (at the very least) on top of that 50% reduction in deaths. And that also presupposes we do not make any further advancements in therapeutics. People with this fake bravado of mask or die are just sadists, ultimately punishing the poor and disenfranchised and just further exacerbating the poor's plight. This is a classic example of the rich getting ALOT richer and poor getting ALOT poorer.
"'Best case scenario': COVID-19 vaccine approval in PH may come by April 2021, says FDA".
[URL]https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/25/20/best-case-scenario-covid-19-vaccine-approval-in-ph-may-come-by-april-2021-says-fda[/URL]
"As COVID-19 cases surge, patients are dying at a lower rate. Here's why".
[URL]https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-09/covid-19-coronavirus-survival-rate-improves[/URL]
"The Rich Got Richer During the Pandemic, Bailed Out by the Fed. How it Happened and Why That's Bad for the Economy".
[URL]https://wolfstreet.com/2020/08/19/the-fed-made-sure-the-rich-got-richer-during-the-pandemic-why-thats-bad-for-the-economy/[/URL]
I have been making so much money lately that this has become reasonably priced now as funny as that sounds my question is has any one tried this? You can scoff at it all you want but I hate being stuck in manila traffic and the ride to subic is horrendous.
They say that the flight time is cut down because there is no formal check in you show up and within 15-30 mins you are in the air. I know that the cost is what it is I'm not asking how to get to these destinations the cheapest (I know how to do that). I'm asking if anyone has actually taken chartered flights around phils and / or a helicopter to clark? Reason being my bank account has recently grown to the size where this would not set me back very much and if it saves me time and hassle I'm all for it.
[URL]https://airtaxi.ph/helicopter-tours-manila-philippines-rates/[/URL]#tab3.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2487187] One, you could hold up masks in a laboratory, intentionally try to blow aerosol particles through them, and measure what gets through.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.pbs.org/video/how-well-do-masks-work-ke2qje/[/URL]
One of our banks was busted by the regulator last week and fined $1.3 billion. First they let the Muslim terrorist types send money through over-the-counter teller transactions to ISIS so they can keep blowing up US Marine humvees. Then they let sick mongers send money to pimps in Flipsville for various dubious purposes. Apparently the bank should have been more alert since they were small, regular transactions going to Flipsville. There should have been an automatic alarm. Hahaha. I wonder if any ISG mongers are embroiled in this? The Philippines seems to attract the most unsavoury types on the planet.
[URL]https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/banking/westpac-pays-up-for-austral-scandal/news-story/4161d88925180d6dd70a124b8fafdb8e[/URL]
If all countries were ranked according to generosity, the US would lead the pack and be the best 'Giver'. The Philippines, on the other hand, would be at the bottom of the pile and be the best 'Taker'. I can't think of anything good to come out of the Philippines apart from balut and may be cheap labor to crew the world's merchant cargo fleet! Nope, I'm not going to include call centres as most of the LBFMs who work those are bird brained nincompoops who can't solve the most basic problem. Hahaha. And grown men are going ape-shit over this corrupt, third world shithole? Seems like most will die without getting their marshmallows sucked one last time. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2487307]I have been making so much money lately that this has become reasonably priced now as funny as that sounds my question is has any one tried this? You can scoff at it all you want but I hate being stuck in manila traffic and the ride to subic is horrendous.
They say that the flight time is cut down because there is no formal check in you show up and within 15-30 mins you are in the air. I know that the cost is what it is I'm not asking how to get to these destinations the cheapest (I know how to do that). I'm asking if anyone has actually taken chartered flights around phils and / or a helicopter to clark? Reason being my bank account has recently grown to the size where this would not set me back very much and if it saves me time and hassle I'm all for it.
[URL]https://airtaxi.ph/helicopter-tours-manila-philippines-rates/[/URL]#tab3.[/QUOTE]Good post. I haven't taken the chopper MNL-CRK but I am a pilot and I have investigated the options. If you can afford it, then do it.
ABC does have a rooftop pad but I believe it is weight limited. I do know some customers who took the chopper option but their checked luggage came by road.
Your luggage weight for the smaller R44 will also be a problem if you have a few of you and 30 kgs luggage per person.
If you really want some aviation adventure PH style then consider a multi-stop trip around Luzon or the other islands. This is what I was investigating when I was there.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2487307]I'm asking if anyone has actually taken chartered flights around phils and / or a helicopter to clark? [/QUOTE]I've used Air Juan several times. Not a true charter flight but pretty close to it.
Yes, very convenient point to point and yes, cost was very reasonable being close to what is paid for a decent charter car & boat hire.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2487579]I've used Air Juan several times. Not a true charter flight but pretty close to it.
[/QUOTE]Thanks I have heard rumors of an ABC hotel helicopter but I haven't ever really looked into it usually for budgetary reasons.
Air Juan actually gets horrible ratings seems to have a lot of unhappy campers that flew or lack there of, I guess moral of the story is don't ever expect a refund from Air Juan it looks like they are totally shutdown right now I wonder if they will even open back up. I'm glad you had a relatively good experience, this is something that is on my bucket list. I don't know if it will be with Air Juan but always good to have a few more options I didn't even know Air Juan existed.
[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Airline_Review-d14190680-Reviews-Air-Juan[/URL]#REVIEWS.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2487608]Thanks I have heard rumors of an ABC hotel helicopter but I haven't ever really looked into it usually for budgetary reasons.
Air Juan actually gets horrible ratings seems to have a lot of unhappy campers [/QUOTE]I think you will find both are now officially shut down. However, I'm sure ABC could organize something if asked or at least point you in the right direction.
Yes, my experience with Juan was very positive on several trips but I raised them as a proof of concept rather than suggesting that specific airline. As you said, they can't be used anymore even if you want to. There are several more options available, even seaplanes to islands, if you do go ahead.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2487768]I think you will find both are now officially shut down. However, I'm sure ABC could organize something if asked or at least point you in the right direction.
Yes, my experience with Juan was very positive on several trips but I raised them as a proof of concept rather than suggesting that specific airline. As you said, they can't be used anymore even if you want to. There are several more options available, even seaplanes to islands, if you do go ahead.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]ABC sold its helicopter quite a while ago. However, I am sure that if someone were to call the hotel the administration could arrange a private helicopter.
GE.
Had my 50th trip to Phil and left end of Jan 2020 after 30 days. This trip went to Cebu, Tacloban, Samar and Davao. All good meetups. I usually go 4 times a year for a month each trip but now stuck in this pussy wasteland of course, with the only enjoyment of chats on filipino cupid, whatsapp, skype and FB. Seems these days its just for entertainment value as we can't plan meetings at malls or get into more personal plans. I chat and seem to have good feelings going both ways but then after a few chats we both just stop. Maybe we are all getting depressed after so long with no real hope of this ending, and travel can resume. One positive note is any pics you see in their profile that have masks on you know are fairly recent. LOL.
[QUOTE=Nightrider1;2490971]Had my 50th trip to Phil and left end of Jan 2020 after 30 days. This trip went to Cebu, Tacloban, Samar and Davao. All good meetups. I usually go 4 times a year for a month each trip but now stuck in this pussy wasteland of course, with the only enjoyment of chats on filipino cupid, whatsapp, skype and FB. Seems these days its just for entertainment value as we can't plan meetings at malls or get into more personal plans. I chat and seem to have good feelings going both ways but then after a few chats we both just stop. Maybe we are all getting depressed after so long with no real hope of this ending, and travel can resume. One positive note is any pics you see in their profile that have masks on you know are fairly recent. LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm doing the same thing you are, but I see it as lead generation, I just tell them to keep I touch and when this thing is all over they get a piece and I get a piece. I am really not in this for a love connection for me personally its all sex so I keep them on the hook by saying I will contact them whenever this is over. But I think we will have a much deeper and higher quality pool to choose from. Only the most dedicated will travel when phils opens back up. I think AC will get set back a few years but in my opinion those were the good ol days. The girls in Manila / AC weren't hungry enough and started to get full of themselves a scarcity of customers will bring back that GFE experience. And all this free time to generate leads wlll just lead to more women with whom I find attractive rather than just settling for Ms right now. The bars might also be stocked with better looking girls seeing as all the 300 k herd OFWs returning home with no contracts will be taking all the skilled labor jobs.
[QUOTE=Nightrider1;2490971]Seems these days its just for entertainment value as we can't plan meetings at malls or get into more personal plans. I chat and seem to have good feelings going both ways but then after a few chats we both just stop. Maybe we are all getting depressed after so long with no real hope of this ending, and travel can resume.[/QUOTE]Similar here in-country. At the start of the lockdown, when my regulars refused to leave their homes for any reason, I opened a dating site profile (first time in many years), just for some variety and to see what would happen. Of course nobody wanted to meet at that time, there was a generalized fear that anyone leaving their compound would automatically catch (and then die from) the disease. Superstition. Lots of general chat, including from girls who were within half KM of me. I wanted to suggest a meetup, but there was simply no place to meet other than Jollie, most of the hotels were closed, and certainly nobody wanted to meet (it seemed) for the bangbang. Just chat. When I suggested a meet, it was met with: "Are you crazy its Covid!" And such.
Then, the worm turned. A few weeks later, after just two short messages, a girl suggested a meet. We met, clicked, and she wanted to go to my place. She has since become an enthusiastic (that could be an understatement) regular, several nights per week. Then a couple of my regulars decided to buck their mama's warnings about leaving the brgy. Back to the dating site: I check it twice weekly, just to look at the new gals. I get a few messages each week, but unless a girl is extremely hot, throws herself at me, and can meet at the coffee shop near me, I am just not interested in a meetup. The conversations are short-lived on the dating site. After the first 10 minutes of questions (not unlike in gogo bars), there isn't really much to talk about online (and the girls are of the same opinion). I have dated several of them (once), but I've stopped. No need to disrupt the 'regular' gravy train at this point.
I have had several dating site girls in the past 2 months offer both themselves and their friends, as soon as they could move the conversation from the dating site to WhatsApp.
Regarding economy. Taxi's (and Grab taxis) are in desperation mode. At malls, they often line up 30 deep, before the mall opens, and wait a good chunk of the day for a customer. If you take note of the second or third car in line as you walk into a mall for an hour's lunch and grocery shopping, you might find that that car has moved up one or two spots as you leave. While malls reopened and most stores in the malls are open, foot traffic is 20% of normal (hence, not enough customers). One driver recognized me as he'd taken me several places, from my hotel to a distant mall for groceries, or back. The normal price is about p160 each way. He gave me his phone number and offered to pick me up at my hotel anytime and take me there for p120. He said he would even wait for me to shop or lunch and return me to my hotel for p250. Things are tight. There is a fast-food kiosk in the mall hallways you have seen before, about 5 of them in the malls in town. Only 3 have re-opened, and of the previous 30-ish employees, 10 are now back working (and rotating days of the week, as in M / W / Friday or T / Th / Saturday). Construction guys same: of those who are working, its two weeks on, one week off (or alternately they rotate days of the week). Security guys at the malls, same.
[QUOTE=Nightrider1;2490971]with the only enjoyment of chats on filipino cupid, whatsapp, skype and FB. Seems these days its just for entertainment value as we can't plan meetings at malls or get into more personal plans. I chat and seem to have good feelings going both ways but then after a few chats we both just stop.[/QUOTE]Dating sites have always been like that in monger places. If it is not a chick for a serious relationship then you only need to use the site to obtain contacts. You don't have to make it a chore talking to them every day. Chances are you have nothing in common anyway. You just need to hit them up once you are in country or a couple of days before and be like what are you doing, let's get together.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2491020]Regarding economy. While malls reopened and most stores in the malls are open, foot traffic is 20% of normal (hence, not enough customers). [/QUOTE]I just received a chat from one of my regular girls in Makati. She is now working again as a cashier in a Mall store after many months of no job. Made me remissness about her. She would walk about 5 blocks to my hotel after work, nine or ten PM depending on mall closing time. I give her my room number and she comes up elevator and knocks on door. We shower together and then I park her under my desk and she sucks and licks me while I work on laptop. After whatever length of time I want I tell her to stop and she says "Do you want to cum inside now" Yeap. Crawls out from under the desk. Get in bed dear. Much GFE fun, sleeps all night, breakfast buffet together in the morning and then I send her back to her mall job, since she walks to work no fare money but I always give her something to help with her needs. I text her during the day if I want her to come that night, she has never said no, if I have another girl coming or want alone time no chat. She is anxious to resume our arrangement. Me too! She sent me a recent Pic. And appears to have lost weight, she said yes some. I don't think many have gained any weight over the lock down.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2491061]I just received a chat from one of my regular girls in Makati. She is now working again as a cashier in a Mall store after many months of no job. Made me remissness about her. She would walk about 5 blocks to my hotel after work, nine or ten PM depending on mall closing time. I give her my room number and she comes up elevator and knocks on door. We shower together and then I park her under my desk and she sucks and licks me while I work on laptop. After whatever length of time I want I tell her to stop and she says "Do you want to cum inside now" Yeap. Crawls out from under the desk. Get in bed dear. Much GFE fun, sleeps all night, breakfast buffet together in the morning and then I send her back to her mall job, since she walks to work no fare money but I always give her something to help with her needs. I text her during the day if I want her to come that night, she has never said no, if I have another girl coming or want alone time no chat. She is anxious to resume our arrangement. Me too! She sent me a recent Pic. And appears to have lost weight, she said yes some. I don't think many have gained any weight over the lock down.[/QUOTE]So she went back to the mall with no change of panties? Yuck.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2491061] <SNIP>
I don't think many have gained any weight over the lock down.[/QUOTE]Without having any hard statistical data other than my own observation skills when in the malls near my home, I am dumbfounded at how much weight so many filipinos (males & females) have gained in the past 3 or 4 months.
I guess it's due to a rice only diet and very little exercise walking to or from work and being at work.
It defies logic, but in checking my observations with others around my place we all agree that lots of people are getting very chubby indeed.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2491263]....
I guess it's due to a rice only diet and very little exercise walking to or from work and being at work.
It defies logic, but in checking my observations with others around my place we all agree that lots of people are getting very chubby indeed.[/QUOTE]I agree it does defy logic, but if you don't have a lot of cash, rice is a good way to fill a belly. Unfortunately it can lead to overeating and gaining weight. You see overweight being correlated with poverty in the developed world as well.
Also an overall unhealthy diet, high in simple carbs and deficient in just about everything else.
And when did anyone here ever walk?? lol
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2491284]rice is a good way to fill a belly. Unfortunately it can lead to overeating and gaining weight. Y
Also an overall unhealthy diet, high in simple carbs and deficient in just about everything else.[/QUOTE]White rice is the stable and is pure sugar / carb as you say KG so it goes to the belly and stays there. I have tried with some modest success to get the pinays to stop the rice meal where they add one hot dog / dried fish etc and then eat a bowl of rice for breakfast, lunch, dinner and everything in between.
Not helped by unlimited rice at some fast food.
This is the case the world over I think as when we were in the UAE at the same time I would ask them their weight now / at the moment compared with the web site and many had10-15+ extra kilos as limited exercise (mostly due to working 12 hours a day, 6 days a week!) and rice as cheap plus it is there DNA.
Now try and get a pinay to eat brown rice or even worse wild or black rice and you all sorts of drama and tampo at times I find LOL.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2491263]It defies logic, but in checking my observations with others around my place we all agree that lots of people are getting very chubby indeed.[/QUOTE]I was about to say the same thing is happening in Thailand. Chicks are going home and blowing up. There it has nothing to do with rice, but constant eating. If a Thai chick does not send pictures of anything else, she will send unsolicited pictures of the food she is eating everyday. I say why do you keep sending me pictures of food? Meanwhile, for some reason foreigners assume they have returned home and are starving to death.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2491288].....
Now try and get a pinay to eat brown rice or even worse wild or black rice and you all sorts of drama and tampo at times I find LOL.[/QUOTE]I brought back a small package of wild rice from Canada. (It is very expensive there and almost a delicacy.) They refused to even taste it.
I buy brown rice, the whole grain with the husks on it, much more healthy. I like the taste too.
The sales clerks look at me funny, the girls usually refuse to eat it or at least turn up their noses at it and only eat a little.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2491463]I brought back a small package of wild rice from Canada. (It is very expensive there and almost a delicacy.) They refused to even taste it.
I buy brown rice, the whole grain with the husks on it, much more healthy. I like the taste too.
The sales clerks look at me funny, the girls usually refuse to eat it or at least turn up their noses at it and only eat a little.[/QUOTE]It is pricy but I like it even though I do not do macrobiotic. Hopefully PI and Thailand will not be hit hard with food crisis as the Nobel winner world food program predicts. Looking at their map, most of their programs are in Africa and India. Many girls tell me they like dancing for exercise but cannot do at at home. Covid is changing everything.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2491463]I brought back a small package of wild rice from Canada. (It is very expensive there and almost a delicacy.) They refused to even taste it.
I buy brown rice, the whole grain with the husks on it, much more healthy. I like the taste too.
The sales clerks look at me funny, the girls usually refuse to eat it or at least turn up their noses at it and only eat a little.[/QUOTE]"Wild rice" is not rice at all.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2491538]"Wild rice" is not rice at all.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is a variety of grass, not directly related to normal rice.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2491463]I brought back a small package of wild rice from Canada. (It is very expensive there and almost a delicacy.) They refused to even taste it.
I buy brown rice, the whole grain with the husks on it, much more healthy. I like the taste too.
The sales clerks look at me funny, the girls usually refuse to eat it or at least turn up their noses at it and only eat a little.[/QUOTE]This is a small pet peeve I have with Pinays. Many of the girls I know are very fixed in their ways and unable or unwilling to step outside of their familiar culinary comfort zone. This national trait is why it is silly and pointless even trying to impress a bar girl by taking her to a higher end restaurant when she would prefer her usual meal at Jollibee or some such place. So, I have learned it is better and a lot cheaper (LOL) to go with the flow and to ask where they want to go for dinner rather than taking them somewhere upscale that I might prefer. Surprisingly some girls have turned me on to some pretty good local food in unexpected places while other girls with baser tastes have nonetheless shown me what to order at Jollibee that is not too terrible like the 2 piece Chicken joy with rice. Still, there are restaurants that I just cannot stand and I will never take a girl to eat there even when she suggests it and really wants to go.
Thai girls have better culinary taste than Pinays because Thai cuisine is better than Filipino food, so I trust Thai girl suggestions more and frequently let them turn me on to pretty good Issan Thai Restaurants. But Thai girls suffer from this familiarity issue well and it is a losing battle to turn them on to new food ideas. For example, some of my Thai girls love Saki and Sushi so I take them to Sushi joints occasionally and we have a great time, but I would never take a Thai girl or Filipina girl to a sushi restaurant if the girl had never tried that kind of food beforehand. It would be a minor disaster and waste of my time and money. Let someone else raise their culinary tastes.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2491348]IIf a Thai chick does not send pictures of anything else, she will send unsolicited pictures of the food she is eating everyday..[/QUOTE]For pinays there Facebook is awash with food picture showing people they are eating a better meal than their friends. Is something I have brought up many times saying what is the purpose of seeing a picture of a half eaten burger, a Jollibee pasta dish or some sushi. They are amazed I don't get it LOL.
Plenty I know on Facebook do this and the 'model' types I know (eg FHM, Playboy Philippines) go a notch higher and have photos of the bubbly, the wine and the hotel restaurant etc. Just to show off LOL.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2491463]I brought back a small package of wild rice from Canada. (It is very expensive there and almost a delicacy.) They refused to even taste it.
I buy brown rice, the whole grain with the husks on it, much more healthy. I like the taste too.
The sales clerks look at me funny, the girls usually refuse to eat it or at least turn up their noses at it and only eat a little.[/QUOTE]OK, a discussion on rice. Bored as can be stuck in California so I'll jump in. I like brown rice wild grain. Uncle Ben's or whatever. Thirty minutes in the micro and add some worcestershire. Tasty. I'll have to stock up on it before I move to PI next year. Might even tie the knot with a cute little Cebuana I met there a year ago. Province girl. University of Visayas student. Wants to be a teacher. Nineteen years old, super sweet and super sexy. This virus is having all sorts of unpredictable consequences. Cheers mates.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2491548]This is a small pet peeve I have with Pinays. Many of the girls I know are very fixed in their ways and unable or unwilling to step outside of their familiar culinary comfort zone. This national trait is why it is silly and pointless even trying to impress a bar girl by taking her to a higher end restaurant when she would prefer her usual meal at Jollibee or some such place. So, I have learned it is better and a lot cheaper (LOL) to go with the flow and to ask where they want to go for dinner rather than taking them somewhere upscale that I might prefer. Surprisingly some girls have turned me on to some pretty good local food in unexpected places while other girls with baser tastes have nonetheless shown me what to order at Jollibee that is not too terrible like the 2 piece Chicken joy with rice. Still, there are restaurants that I just cannot stand and I will never take a girl to eat there even when she suggests it and really wants to go.[/QUOTE]This should be primer reading for all newbs. Its almost impossible to go wrong by (without asking her) grabbing your inbound girl a Jollie Chickenjoy meal (1 piece greasy fried chicken leg, rice or fries, coke) before she arrives (even if she arrives 90 minutes late, she will scarf it down). "Thanks Westie". Sure, now lets wash those hands and get that kit off.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2491609]For pinays there Facebook is awash with food picture showing people they are eating a better meal than their friends. Is something I have brought up many times saying what is the purpose of seeing a picture of a half eaten burger, a Jollibee pasta dish or some sushi. They are amazed I don't get it LOL.[/QUOTE]I get it. I am on three txt groups with co-workers, friends and fam back home, we are constantly txting pics of Starbucks coffees, home meals, and such. I think all of us are age 55+, close to 25 people total. Like teenage girls. Also several of my regulars WhatsApp similar pics back and forth with me, even when I am not in their city. Foodie pics, its a thing. Like sharing the meal together without being there.
[QUOTE=DCups;2491648]Might even tie the knot with a cute little Cebuana I met there a year ago. Province girl. University of Visayas student. Wants to be a teacher. Nineteen years old, super sweet and super sexy. This virus is having all sorts of unpredictable consequences. Cheers mates.[/QUOTE]Don't do it!
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2491548]...Thai girls have better culinary taste than Pinays because Thai cuisine is better than Filipino food...[/QUOTE]Brown rice?? Is absolutely disgusting LOL! I don't blame pinays for not eating that crap, Black or Purple rice sometimes called "forbidden rice" however taste good and does have health benefits.
I wouldn't even say that Filipinos have a cuisine of their own.
Many of the things that are main stays in the Philippines that is any good are imports and their counter parts are much better than the "sweet" version in the Philippines.
Siopao, Lumpia = Chinese mostly hokkien Chinese.
Lechon, Adobo = Spanish.
Pandesal translates to salt breads but these things are VERY sweet not at all salty, almost everything in the Philippines is absolutely ruined by their need for everything to be sweet.
I think I talked about this before but Philippine food is not "good". I have never once longed for a taste of the Philippines in terms of cuisine. Only thing I do miss on occasion are those Cebu dried mangos. I think the mangos in the Philippines for whatever reason are way better than mangos anywhere else in the world.
As far as SEA is concerned I don't think its fair to compare Thai food to food in phils they are in a different category:
Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore / Malaysia, Indonesia all have "good" food.
Cambodia, Laos (although bread is good here), Myanmar & the Philippines have horrible /"bad" food. With very questionable sanitary conditions.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2491463]I brought back a small package of wild rice from Canada. (It is very expensive there and almost a delicacy.) They refused to even taste it.
I buy brown rice, the whole grain with the husks on it, much more healthy. I like the taste too.
[/QUOTE]The husks are 100% inedible and all rice grown in North America has high concentrations of arsenic and mercury brown rice having higher concentrations than white rice. The rice they are eating in the Philippines is actually healthier for you in that regard and the food nuts say brown rice has something called antinutrients in it that being said it certainly is not MORE healthy than ph locally grown rice which will have lower concentrations of arsenic and mercury.
White rice is an "empty" processed carb because most of their dietary fiber and nutritional components have been removed. I try to stay away from all processed carbs in order to keep my weight under 174 lb. That is all I have against the product. A baked potato or baked yam, no butter added, is a much better source. Beans which are high in protein and "complex" carbohydrates is a good, natural food source as well. It is all about staying trim & fit so I can do two 20 something girls a day. Young girls are good for your health.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2491915]It is all about staying trim & fit so I can do two 20 something girls a day. Young girls are good for your health.[/QUOTE]Quite right. They are filled with white-rice carbs; the only thing missing is my protein. I'm glad to do my share by giving up a piece of me (several times / week; my promise to the pinay sisterhood -- you are welcome, ladies).
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2491875]The husks are 100% inedible and all rice grown in North America has high concentrations of arsenic and mercury brown rice having higher concentrations than white rice. The rice they are eating in the Philippines is actually healthier for you in that regard and the food nuts say brown rice has something called antinutrients in it that being said it certainly is not MORE healthy than ph locally grown rice which will have lower concentrations of arsenic and mercury.[/QUOTE]I recently read a study from Dartmouth that concurred in your concern about arsenic and mercury in brown rice. Apparently most of the arsenic and mercury are bleached away when brown rice is reduced to white rice. I found another study that says other nutrients get washed away, too; some of these can be replaced with synthesized nutrients that are added to "enriched" white rice, allow their benefits are not as good as those found naturally in brown rice. In addition, other studies indicate that white rice, as compared to brown rice, contributes significantly more to Type 2 diabetes. You get to pick your poison.
Cannot believe we are discussing rice but I did read research that said the extra energy required for the Filipinos to cook the brown rice outweighs the nutritional benefit which is why white rice is king there.
Philippines also has a standard measure for a restaurant serve of rice with a recent law allowing for a "half" cup serve.
And don't we all like the look on that Filipina face when we first explain that we might eat rice once per week in our country. Not for breakfast, not three times per day.
The world is seriously going to change if we cannot get back to Ph to continue educating these girls.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2491548]This is a small pet peeve I have with Pinays. Many of the girls I know are very fixed in their ways and unable or unwilling to step outside of their familiar culinary comfort zone. This national trait is why it is silly and pointless even trying to impress a bar girl by taking her to a higher end restaurant when she would prefer her usual meal at Jollibee or some such place. So, I have learned it is better and a lot cheaper (LOL) to go with the flow and to ask where they want to go for dinner rather than taking them somewhere upscale that I might prefer. Surprisingly some girls have turned me on to some pretty good local food in unexpected places while other girls with baser tastes have nonetheless shown me what to order at Jollibee that is not too terrible like the 2 piece Chicken joy with rice. Still, there are restaurants that I just cannot stand and I will never take a girl to eat there even when she suggests it and really wants to go.
Thai girls have better culinary taste than Pinays because Thai cuisine is better than Filipino food, so I trust Thai girl suggestions more and frequently let them turn me on to pretty good Issan Thai Restaurants. But Thai girls suffer from this familiarity issue well and it is a losing battle to turn them on to new food ideas. For example, some of my Thai girls love Saki and Sushi so I take them to Sushi joints occasionally and we have a great time, but I would never take a Thai girl or Filipina girl to a sushi restaurant if the girl had never tried that kind of food beforehand. It would be a minor disaster and waste of my time and money. Let someone else raise their culinary tastes.[/QUOTE]Yeah. It was a worry for me for a long time long ago. Luckily and fortunately I have found out over the years that both Thai and Filipina are just as eager to lap up my imported foreign semen as the local variety.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2492524]It's not just Jim, Bob and "them". Go look at the Seeking Arrangements thread on this very board to see guys drop hundreds of Dollars or Euros time and again to receive nada. It's no wonder girls are reluctant to engage with us that want them to actually earn their keep.[/QUOTE]Had a bit of trouble finding SA here on the Board, its under [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements.[/URL] Pretty bad if those fellas are having trouble. I can honestly say that the video goldrush for the ladies has not stopped any of the foreigner gents here from having an excess of goodness, allowing us to set the tempo of having who we want, when we want (mostly). "Where" can be more difficult for some of us, as some of our hotels / apartments / condos / etc won't allow guests, so that some gents are being forced to use ST hotels.
[QUOTE=BrizLad;2492358]Cannot believe we are discussing rice[/QUOTE]Rice is what powers the LBFM. Respect the rice.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2491820]This should be primer reading for all newbs. Its almost impossible to go wrong by (without asking her) grabbing your inbound girl a Jollie Chickenjoy meal (1 piece greasy fried chicken leg, rice or fries, coke) before she arrives (even if she arrives 90 minutes late, she will scarf it down). "Thanks Westie". Sure, now lets wash those hands and get that kit off.
I get it. I am on three txt groups with co-workers, friends and fam back home, we are constantly txting pics of Starbucks coffees, home meals, and such. I think all of us are age 55+, close to 25 people total. Like teenage girls. Also several of my regulars WhatsApp similar pics back and forth with me, even when I am not in their city. Foodie pics, its a thing. Like sharing the meal together without being there.[/QUOTE]I think you're being a bit over-generous here, Westie.
I'm not going to say there are no Filipino foodies, because there are. I have actually met some. Like, three or four. In nine years. (They were all "rich".).
I am going to say, for the average girl, and her classmates—the above-average girl and the below-average girl—their TOTAL interest in taking pictures of food (and selfies in hotels,) is to socially one-up her Facebook friends, in a retarded and omnipresent game of "I went somewhere expensive, nah nah. ".
It's not about sharing experiences, it's about attempting to induce jealousy.
This is pretty much the national sport of any female old enough to use a cell phone.
[QUOTE=RollAides;2492610]....
This is pretty much the national sport of any female old enough to use a cell phone.[/QUOTE]It is an international sport for females to try to make other females jealous. Just here they can do it with pictures of JolllyBee foods. Other places it takes a little more.
Good start. We have to respect the rice, brown in my case but I am not for sale. (Though LBFMs can make offers).
[QUOTE=RollAides;2492610]Rice is what powers the LBFM. Respect the rice.[/QUOTE]Bad finish. Women are into this crap. I have a lot of non P4P SE Asian friends. They are always posting this crap. They go nuts when I sent them some random food pics from Europe. It is just the way women are. I travel a lot. I take pics of food a lot. I bonk a lady who bakes cakes. I post pictures of her cakes, all the little add ONS, Santas, Draculas, Valentine, Jesus, married folk. They love it. Let me explain it in a joke.
I walk on a beach in Honolulu. I find a genie in a bottle.
Genie: Spare my life and I will make one wish of yours come true.
Pedro: Build me a bridge from Honolulu to the LBFM factories in Philippines.
Genie: Too hard. Ask me another.
Pedro: Explain women to me.
Genie: About that bridge. Now, if we get 3, 456, 278, 490, 372, 378 rivets to begin with.
[QUOTE=RollAides;2492610]I think you're being a bit over-generous here, Westie.
I'm not going to say there are no Filipino foodies, because there are. I have actually met some. Like, three or four. In nine years. (They were all "rich".).
I am going to say, for the average girl, and her classmatesthe above-average girl and the below-average girltheir TOTAL interest in taking pictures of food (and selfies in hotels,) is to socially one-up her Facebook friends, in a retarded and omnipresent game of "I went somewhere expensive, nah nah. ".
It's not about sharing experiences, it's about attempting to induce jealousy.
This is pretty much the national sport of any female old enough to use a cell phone.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RollAides;2492610]Rice is what powers the LBFM. Respect the rice.[/QUOTE]Spot on. Serving your pinay a helping of rice before the dirty ensures that she's carbo-loaded and full of energy (an hour later, after the sugar crash, she will sleep it off). Jollie rice powers the vag.
[QUOTE=RollAides;2492610]I think you're being a bit over-generous here, Westie. SNIP their TOTAL interest in taking pictures of food (and selfies in hotels,) is to socially one-up her Facebook friends, in a retarded and omnipresent game of "I went somewhere expensive, nah nah. ". It's not about sharing experiences, it's about attempting to induce jealousy.[/QUOTE]Won't argue with that. WR was saying that he didn't understand it. You and I are saying that its prevalent (for whatever reason).
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2492796]Jollie rice powers the vag.[/QUOTE]That's beautiful. They should put this on their advertising.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2486598]As with the Covid19 virus, all the whining and whinging will be with us for a long time.
The good thing I see is more countries opening up. Lock downs are killing the economy. As with the FAA safety regulations, the systemized balance between cost and lives lost is sinking in and being adopted by many. (I am and will avoid the 737 max).
PI will need to open up to at least to people within its borders. If you are a young stud in the PI, the girl buffet is cheap and plentiful.
PI is still sending their workers around the world. I read that European cruises are going to restart. Many PI ladies work there. Likewises, I assume you can hire a PI lady for some tasks in some countries and bring them out. You might just have to live on that one pussy for a year or 90 days.
China also announced recently that foreign residents who fled are allowed back in.
Likewise Thailand is working on tourist quotas and new guidelines. Google is your friend. Confirm and reconfirm and triple check any announcements. When the left hand does not know the right hand is doing, you as the traveller will get stuck. Thailand is a really good example and I knew a couple people caught there.[/QUOTE]I wrote earlier in another post that I would think travel would start back by the end of summer 2021 just so the PRC can get people in the mood to travel the following winter to the Winter Olympics. Guess I was off a bit. Anyone notice the most recent WHO report that said lockdowns are not really doing what they are supposed to be doing and they are winding up putting more people in poverty and folks still getting sick, and that other methods should be looked at. I'll move my prediction of more open travel to around Jan / Feb of 2021. The main reason, at least a year out from the Olympics you have all of the qualifying events worldwide so that athletes can compete to get selected for their respective teams. Since we are talking winter Olympics in 2022, the winter of 2021 will be an important time for those Olympic hopefuls to compete in world competitions to be able to get into the Olympics. But if the world is still in a lockdown, and travel is limited, guess those athletes won't be facing off against each other. WHO / IOC and the rest can't afford that. They blew 2020 and Tokyo and another back to back let down in interest in the games will be bad for business. Plus you would think that Red Army of PRC athletes will want to compete against actual competitors and not just some name selects on teams so there will be a need for preliminaries, thus the need to travel will be there just got to get the governments to open back up. Somehow, enough pressure will be applied and by Jan / Feb (maybe Dec) you will see travel open. Right now, it looks like Sweden will be the team to beat.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2492796]Spot on. Serving your pinay a helping of rice before the dirty ensures that she's carbo-loaded and full of energy (an hour later, after the sugar crash, she will sleep it off). Jollie rice powers the vag.
Won't argue with that. WR was saying that he didn't understand it. You and I are saying that its prevalent (for whatever reason).[/QUOTE]I know why they do it as Roll Aides said = to boast to their friends etc. I don't understand their mentality as to why this is important at times but having partied with so many pinays and I would say this is 100% why they like phones with cameras LOL I 'understand' Westie but I find it childish, immature etc (but then what has that got to do with our hobby?
Canadian here, never been outside the country for "sex tourism" or whatever but really wanted to try. Then fucking covid happened and I guess I'm waiting till a vaccine or something pops up. Doing my little research I've come to decide Philippines. Can anyone give me some pointers or info on the scene. Maybe I picked the wrong country to start first or the best place to post this, anything helps.
[QUOTE=Nhk213;2493913]Doing my little research I've come to decide Philippines. Can anyone give me some pointers or info on the scene. Maybe I picked the wrong country to start first or the best place to post this, anything helps.[/QUOTE]This might sound extreme. But since we all have time on our hands these days: Go back 5 years (or more) on each of these forums (Angeles City, Makati, Cebu, Chat Rooms / Pen pals, and General Info) and read forward. Skip over anything you feel unnecessary. Your question has been asked and answered many times, it is a large and vague question with many answers.
[QUOTE=Nhk213;2493913]Canadian here, never been outside the country for "sex tourism" or whatever but really wanted to try. Then fucking covid happened and I guess I'm waiting till a vaccine or something pops up. Doing my little research I've come to decide Philippines. Can anyone give me some pointers or info on the scene. Maybe I picked the wrong country to start first or the best place to post this, anything helps.[/QUOTE]IMHO you picked the right country. Next thing you do is as others advised read all the forums for guidance. You can find info about girls, scammers, current prices, locations etc.
Philippines is also well known for regular girls who will drop their panties if they like you and like what you offer. Open an account with dateinasia. It is a free dating website specifically geared towards Philippine girls. Chat with many and see. Some are more like a GF on your vacation. Do not take advantage of them thinking they are freebies. All girls love money and gifts. Compensate them well.
Although money changes hands treat them well.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2493996]This might sound extreme. But since we all have time on our hands these days: Go back 5 years (or more) on each of these forums (Angeles City, Makati, Cebu, Chat Rooms / Pen pals, and General Info) and read forward. Skip over anything you feel unnecessary. Your question has been asked and answered many times, it is a large and vague question with many answers.[/QUOTE]This is what I did in 2010 before my first trip. I did it for my first trip to Thailand, the Philippines, Colombia, El Salvador etc etc etc. I focused on the city and that particular forum plus the photo galleries of these countries. I did not deal w any thing else, just trip reports and the PGs. Also you might go back a 10 years and look between 2010 and 2016 before the clever haters showed up here. It's still the same except for prices and bar names which you can find easily w a cursory glance from recent reports.
If you have decent game then non pros will be available but the real fun is in the big and small bars in Angeles City, Makati and Cebu City. There are a few seaside towns like Subic and Puerto Galera that also have a bar scene, PG being the better in my book. My first trips always included a side trip to Puerto Galera, Subic and Cebu. Later on I just focused on AC and Makati. Makati is more pricey with better looking big city girls dancing on Burgos Street. Serious fun there. Pics from my last visit in 2019 to Makati, same body clothed and without clothes. She tore me apart and I'm an older guy.
So do your homework here and then ask some intelligent questions afterwards. The Philippines is elementary mongering, it's super easy. When the time comes book a hotel in one of the above cities and asked to have a car pick you up at the airport. Bingo. Done. Then get ready to find out what it's like to be king. Cheers.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2494021]
Philippines is also well known for regular girls who will drop their panties if they like you and like what you offer....[/QUOTE]I don't think PI does anything exceptionally well: Prettier girls in Thailand; Nawtier girls in Europe; Bigger tits and ass in Brazil.
However, as a package it does very well. Especially for a newbie where there is no shortage of girls, professional or not, in an english friendly environment and with some simple precautions the OP won't get ripped off.
Enjoy. G.
In general, I agree with Sammon and Goffering and under normal circumstances say that you will not go wrong in choosing the PI as your 1st Asian port of call. The girls are super friendly, sexy, and in some cases really hot and they speak English which is both a plus and a minus. But I must add just one caveat to this consensus about the PI and that is my concern about the post pandemic state of the Bars and Go Go's in MNL and AC when travelers are finally allowed back in. I am worried that many bars and Go Go's will never open again while at the same time I have no similar concerns about the Thai girly scene because I know BKK and Pattaya Bars and Go Go's will be there when I return. Many are open right now. So, this concern of mine translates into I do not know where I am going on my next 2. 5 month trip once I am vaccinated and the doors are open. It will depend on what my sources tell me the current scene is like in MNL, Jakarta, and Thailand. I would love to do all three again, but I may have to settle for just doing one or two. Keep this in mind as you plan your itinerary.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2494053]I don't think PI does anything exceptionally well: Prettier girls in Thailand; Nawtier girls in Europe; Bigger tits and ass in Brazil.
However, as a package it does very well. Especially for a newbie where there is no shortage of girls, professional or not, in an english friendly environment and with some simple precautions the OP won't get ripped off.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Hi G,
Concur (smile) but for me Europe is too expensive and Brazil too far away. Fond memories, however. The Dominican Republic is good value and plenty of big tits. Cheers, mate.
2020 is the first full year since 2010 that I have not had any trips to RP.
2020.
Trips to Doctor = 0.
Prescriptions of antibiotic = 0.
Random sexual encounters = 0.
2017 & 2018.
These were the most intense travel years with 18 trips Au. Ph. Also most intense for Dr visits for some chest infections, worms from volunteering in small towns around AC, crazy stomach bug and a few other unique ailments.
Possibly it's the air travel, although I think much of the infections coming from spending the downtime snogging multiple girls.
The big downside to 2020 is the lack of adventure and Filipina, just pointing out, I for one am much healthier this year.
BL.
I am looking to spend 5 grand on 1 escort. Where do I find a beautiful white looking Philipina escort? Or are they impossible to find?
[QUOTE=Vip6682;2494946]I am looking to spend 5 grand on 1 escort.[/QUOTE]1) Is that dollars? Pesos? Are you in-country now?
2) You ask a lot of questions. Do you provide quality field reports? From your most recent dozen or so posts:
Brazil: Would I be able to find a escort like the brunette in the link above? What I'm trying to say is, her look common there?
Sydney: Are Australian prostitutes mostly local. By that I mean British white?
Shanghai: Do Chinese service providers look better in their prospective homeland, than they do in Canada or the US?
Shanghai: How would I go about accessing this upscale Chinese market?
Shanghai: Why are Chinese prostitutes never as good looking as their civie counterparts at least in North America?
Medellin: Are there any white European looking Colombian chicas?
London: Why don't you see any English or Irish providers?
Toronto: Do strip clubs have any extras in the greater Toronto area?
Monterey (Mexico): Have you seen some strippers, who resemble upper class Mexicans?
Egypt: Are there any Lebanon looking sharmota in Egypt?
Turkey: Are the girls Turkish or Russian?
Well-traveled chap!
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2495134]1) Is that dollars? Pesos? Are you in-country now?
2) You ask a lot of questions. Do you provide quality field reports? From your most recent dozen or so posts:[/QUOTE]You can add UK, Canada, Morocco, Lebanon, Syria and India to the list and I had some time all his 'FRs' are questions as far back as 2014 Westie. Seems like a serial one handed typist. There was a monger who did spend $5000 on a SA girl for a few nights in the UAE recently and only he thought it was worthwhile (but we can spend out money how we like on what we like). Imagine that amount in the Philippines. Even I would dress up and act cute LOL.
Vip6682 - how about a swathe of FRs to back up all the questions and the global mongering you claim to have done aka Westie's question / comment number 2 above?
S.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2495134]
Well-traveled chap![/QUOTE]It looks like he is trying to fuck his way through the upper echelons of society one country at a time. I feel like his questions are some kind of social equality jab that more hookers should be pearly white?
He has 5 k burning a hole in his pocket and he wants to fuck the whitest thing he can find. We all know Philippines is the land of "white" chicks, they might as well change that to the countries new slogan.
How many glutathione drips would it take to totally turn a pinay into a white girl? I imagine they would just disintegrate before they turned all white.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2495170]You can add UK, Canada, Morocco, Lebanon, Syria and India to the list and I had some time all his 'FRs' are questions as far back as 2014 Westie. Seems like a serial one handed typist. There was a monger who did spend $5000 on a SA girl for a few nights in the UAE recently and only he thought it was worthwhile (but we can spend out money how we like on what we like). Imagine that amount in the Philippines. Even I would dress up and act cute LOL.
Vip6682 - how about a swathe of FRs to back up all the questions and the global mongering you claim to have done aka Westie's question / comment number 2 above?
S.[/QUOTE]You caught me Sherlock.
The Philippine Govt. Decided to allow foreigners with investment visas to return as of November 1 but that is all. There are already several posts on Facebook and other websites claiming that tourists will be allowed to return. That is not the case, still no idea when tourists will be allowed to return so this is just to shut down the rumor that is coming. Only business owners / investors with proper visas and still the Covid test and hotel quarantine will be required.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2495627] Only business owners / investors with proper visas and still the Covid test and hotel quarantine will be required.[/QUOTE]What about this form of tourism?
Regardless, who wants to go there and possibly get real sick? GFE can be deadly right now.
October 22, ADVISORY 41 ON THE 2019 NOVEL CORONAVIRUS:
TRAVEL POLICY IN THE PHILIPPINES.
Looks like not much has changed, unfortunately. Got a little excited that there was an update listed but nothing in it that suggests they will be allowing tourists in any time soon.
[URL]https://www.philippineconsulatela.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Advisory-41-on-CoViD19-22102020.pdf[/URL]
[QUOTE=Socker;2496155]What about this form of tourism?
Regardless, who wants to go there and possibly get real sick? GFE can be deadly right now.[/QUOTE]Absolutely, Covid only has a 99.4% recovery rate. Who wants to play against those kind of odds. Probably better to stay away. Prices are like the 70's again.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2496497]Absolutely, Covid only has a 99.4% recovery rate. Who wants to play against those kind of odds. Probably better to stay away.[/QUOTE]Not quite right on the 99% (see pic). The elderly (comprising many of our Board members) might have something to worry about. Them co-morbidities are a killer, literally.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2496497]Prices are like the 70's again.[/QUOTE]Thumbs-up to that.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2496740]The elderly (comprising many of our Board members) might have something to worry about. [/QUOTE]Being a member of the board usually implies having special influence. Seems there are some encounters in which board membership carries an ironic liability. Our friend reach-around might call this the old guy marshmallow liability.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2497462]Our friend reach-around might call this the old guy marshmallow liability.[/QUOTE]As I get older, I get more marshmallow. Sad face.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2496497]Absolutely, Covid only has a 99.4% recovery rate.[/QUOTE]You're badly, perhaps willingly, misinformed.
Even in western countries with good health care the average survival rate is 99-97%. What you call recovery rate is just how many people don't die. The vast majority (70+%) have lesions in their hearts. Lots of long-haulers.
[QUOTE=Trillian;2500678]...The vast majority (70+%) have lesions in their hearts. ...[/QUOTE]
Simply untrue.
[QUOTE=Trillian;2500678]You're badly, perhaps willingly, misinformed.
Even in western countries with good health care the average survival rate is 99-97%. What you call recovery rate is just how many people don't die. The vast majority (70+%) have lesions in their hearts. Lots of long-haulers.[/QUOTE]ISG is probably not a good place to seek medical advice or research results. Johns Hopkins College of Medicine is probably a more reliable source. They are saying one in five Covid patients ends up with heart damage:
[URL]https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/can-coronavirus-cause-heart-damage[/URL]
"Pfizer announced on Monday that its coronavirus vaccine developed with BioNTech SE prevented 90 percent of infections in a trial with tens of thousands of volunteers, in a major step toward authorization of a vaccine for general use.
The Pfizer vaccine trial enrolled 44,000 participants in total, with no serious safety issues arising from the vaccine itself. Trials will continue until at least 164 participants become sick with at least one symptom of coronavirus, and full data for the vaccine's efficacy was still incomplete as of Monday. The duration of immunity caused by the vaccine is as yet unknown.
However, Pfizer said it could ask the Food and Drug Administration by the end of November for emergency authorization of the vaccine.
"This is about the best the news could possibly be for the world and for the United States and for public health," William Gruber, Pfizer senior vice president for vaccine clinical research and development, said in a statement".
[QUOTE=Trillian;2500678]You're badly, perhaps willingly, misinformed.
Even in western countries with good health care the average survival rate is 99-97%. What you call recovery rate is just how many people don't die. The vast majority (70+%) have lesions in their hearts. Lots of long-haulers.[/QUOTE]So by using your numbers my calculation is off by .4% to 2. 6% as there is no clear recovery rate. Especially with all of the hospitals forging death certificates to get the Covid payout. Maybe we should ask Jackson to add a section of the forum titled "Medical Experts. ".
[QUOTE=Beavis;2501056]So by using your numbers my calculation is off by .4% to 2. 6% as there is no clear recovery rate. Especially with all of the hospitals forging death certificates to get the Covid payout. Maybe we should ask Jackson to add a section of the forum titled "Medical Experts. ".[/QUOTE]As a contribution to the new thread perhaps you can report on the difference in payout to physicians for reporting a Covid death as opposed to normal deaths.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2501081]As a contribution to the new thread perhaps you can report on the difference in payout to physicians for reporting a Covid death as opposed to normal deaths.[/QUOTE]Rather than talking about fucking Covid, can we get back to talking about fucking?
The bullshit content will be about the same, but at least it will be bullish about fucking.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2501091]The bullshit content will be about the same, but at least it will be bullish about fucking.[/QUOTE]I agree that the bullshit content has been very high, but please keep in mind that only a small portion of ISG guys are actually in country and able to partake in the fucking. For the majority of us who are sometimes active in the Philippines forum humor is one of the few outlets we have to participate. For us the business of fucking Pinays is all pretty hypothetical.
I almost forgot: Covid is the reason that others of us are unable to engage in fucking.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2501220]For us the business of fucking Pinays is all pretty hypothetical.
I almost forgot: Covid is the reason that others of us are unable to engage in fucking.[/QUOTE]Aside from a few million dead or incapacitated and widespread economic collapse covid has had some significant benefits for me:
1/ several once long lost numbers but spectacular performers have resurfaced and I'm super keen to get reacquainted.
2/ after wading through the numerous scammers many unemployed models and promo girls are now aware of my rugged good looks and magnetic personality. Previously this was not a market I actively sought out, having had several disastrous sessions where stellar good looks and performance were very heavily but inversely related. But I must say those that are less hardened are very appealing.
3/ many said models have abandoned the expensive big smoke and returned home to mom in the province. These are areas I prefer to travel around, have fewer cashed up newbie John's to compete with and I already know my way around. I'm seriously thinking of adjusting my normal travel plans of a few days in many locations to a week or two in a select number of places.
My contributions too are purely hypothetical at this stage but if only a few actually pan out when the airports open, it will be a great story. Well for me at least. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
You are on the right track here and your plans are much more relevant to me than the wet dream fantasies of others. There has to be e a lot of pain in the Philippines. I am sure even the overseas remittances have taken a major hit. The road back, if it ever happens, will; be long and painful, with the dolly birds from Samar and so on very much at the end of the q.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2501305]
My contributions too are purely hypothetical at this stage but if only a few actually pan out when the airports open, it will be a great story. Well for me at least. 😁.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2501472]There has to be e a lot of pain in the Philippines. I am sure even the overseas remittances have taken a major hit. [/QUOTE]I've chatted with several girls whose boyfriends have clearly come upon hard times, severely denying their love and generosity. Luckily for me, it's taken the girls about 8 1/2 seconds to seek out replacements.
Enjoy. G.
Amen and amen!
[QUOTE=Goferring;2501305]Aside from a few million dead or incapacitated and widespread economic collapse covid has had some significant benefits for me:
1/ several once long lost numbers but spectacular performers have resurfaced and I'm super keen to get reacquainted.
2/ after wading through the numerous scammers many unemployed models and promo girls are now aware of my rugged good looks and magnetic personality. Previously this was not a market I actively sought out, having had several disastrous sessions where stellar good looks and performance were very heavily but inversely related. But I must say those that are less hardened are very appealing.
3/ many said models have abandoned the expensive big smoke and returned home to mom in the province. These are areas I prefer to travel around, have fewer cashed up newbie John's to compete with and I already know my way around. I'm seriously thinking of adjusting my normal travel plans of a few days in many locations to a week or two in a select number of places.
My contributions too are purely hypothetical at this stage but if only a few actually pan out when the airports open, it will be a great story. Well for me at least. 😁.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Free2;2501799]Amen and amen![/QUOTE]Hey F2. How are you?
PM me if you are still thinking of VND as a backup plan to the Phils. See the Photo Gallery there if you need any convincing. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
So here's a puzzle. I'm assuming that the Philippines government has not yet started giving out tourist visas. I have a friend in angeles who says her British fuck buddy just arrived in Angeles 4 days ago. So how did he do it? Did he just never leave and is just bullshitting my friend? Is he on some type of business visa? Are they letting in business visitors yet? Any theories?
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2505950]So here's a puzzle. I'm assuming that the Philippines government has not yet started giving out tourist visas. I have a friend in angeles who says her British fuck buddy just arrived in Angeles 4 days ago. So how did he do it? Did he just never leave and is just bullshitting my friend? Is he on some type of business visa? Are they letting in business visitors yet? Any theories?[/QUOTE]He could have stayed.
He could be on one of the allowed visas, business, diplomatic SIRV, spousal.
I have heard that some limited tourists are allowed in, they have to go to an approved resort and only transit through Manila. Never seen any here but who knows.
My guess is that he stayed or he has a local spouse. (or kid).
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2505950]So here's a puzzle. I'm assuming that the Philippines government has not yet started giving out tourist visas. I have a friend in angeles who says her British fuck buddy just arrived in Angeles 4 days ago. So how did he do it? Did he just never leave and is just bullshitting my friend? Is he on some type of business visa? Are they letting in business visitors yet? Any theories?[/QUOTE]I had a business buddy just go back last week to AC. He has a business investment visa.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2505950]So here's a puzzle. I'm assuming that the Philippines government has not yet started giving out tourist visas. I have a friend in angeles who says her British fuck buddy just arrived in Angeles 4 days ago. So how did he do it? Did he just never leave and is just bullshitting my friend? Is he on some type of business visa? Are they letting in business visitors yet? Any theories?[/QUOTE]He's on a diplomatic visa. Don't believe what your friend says. He's an eminent diplomat attached to the British Foreign Office. If I'm not mistaken, he's the dapper gentleman in the Saville Row three-piece suit, bowler hat and umbrella that goes for a walk along Fields Avenue on most afternoons.
Are others getting very slow download speeds, page updates and even timeout errors from ISG lately? I don't get these with other web pages.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2506372]Are others getting very slow download speeds, page updates and even timeout errors from ISG lately? I don't get these with other web pages.[/QUOTE]I'm also in Old and I will often get page load problems. Sometimes I just go to internationalsexguide. NL which takes out one layer of web stuff.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2506372]Are others getting very slow download speeds, page updates and even timeout errors from ISG lately? I don't get these with other web pages.[/QUOTE]Yes same here on ISG. NL pictures often doesn't show, strange.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2506372]Are others getting very slow download speeds, page updates and even timeout errors from ISG lately? I don't get these with other web pages.[/QUOTE]Yep. (filler for ten character minimum. Sigh).
[QUOTE=Goferring;2506372]Are others getting very slow download speeds, page updates and even timeout errors from ISG lately? I don't get these with other web pages.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2506494]Yes same here on ISG. NL pictures often doesn't show, strange.[/QUOTE]Yes. I don't have pic problems on this site. But for some time now (few weeks), page updates / refresh, clicking a new link, results in slow updates to the point of timeouts. In addition, the daily database error: "Nightly backup / 4:30-5 am UTC, please try again", I get that about 4-6 pm most days. But about once a week I get it multiple times per day. An example from today in the pics, I got the error message at 5 am and 10 am today (and will probably see it again around 4-6 pm this afternoon).
Well. Britain approved a vaccine because Gavin Williamson says it is a better country. Since better people from the better country will soon be able to benefit from a vaccine developed by Turkish immigrants and rebel colonists and be able to have a vaccine certificate to allow the better vaccinated people to fly on an airline founded by convict descendants to the land of better pussies. So get in line quickly.
I am getting totally drained by all the parched pussies.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2506372]Are others getting very slow download speeds, page updates and even timeout errors from ISG lately? I don't get these with other web pages.[/QUOTE]I'm in Sydney, but haven't had any problems. Sometimes photos can be a bit slow, but usually only the first one if there is a batch of them.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2508804]Well. Britain approved a vaccine because Gavin Williamson says it is a better country. Since better people from the better country will soon be able to benefit from a vaccine developed by Turkish immigrants and rebel colonists and be able to have a vaccine certificate to allow the better vaccinated people to fly on an airline founded by convict descendants to the land of better pussies. So get in line quickly.
I am getting totally drained by all the parched pussies.[/QUOTE]Oh. The US Anthony Fauci originally had choice words by comparing the better country's hasty approval to someone taking a short cut in a marathon. Whatever the reason, the more people getting vaccinated the sooner the better country will get to their original planoc herd immunity.
Hopefully, PI will benefit and things will recover.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2509124]Oh. The US Anthony Fauci originally had choice words by comparing the better country's hasty approval to someone taking a short cut in a marathon. Whatever the reason, the more people getting vaccinated the sooner the better country will get to their original planoc herd immunity.
Hopefully, PI will benefit and things will recover.[/QUOTE]The speed difference was that the authorities in the UK were taking in data as it became available. In the US the final approval authority wanted to wait until all data was available before starting. This why the FDA (or whoever is approval authority),is not meeting on this for another couple of days.
Personally I am thinking that the Oxford vaccine will be the one here. The logistics of maintaining the cold chain on it are a lot easier for a place like the Philippines.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2509593]The speed difference was that the authorities in the UK were taking in data as it became available. In the US the final approval authority wanted to wait until all data was available before starting. This why the FDA (or whoever is approval authority),is not meeting on this for another couple of days.
Personally I am thinking that the Oxford vaccine will be the one here. The logistics of maintaining the cold chain on it are a lot easier for a place like the Philippines.[/QUOTE][URL]https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/12/moderna-covid-19-vaccine-design.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2509593]The speed difference was that the authorities in the UK were taking in data as it became available. In the US the final approval authority wanted to wait until all data was available before starting. This why the FDA (or whoever is approval authority),is not meeting on this for another couple of days.
Personally I am thinking that the Oxford vaccine will be the one here. The logistics of maintaining the cold chain on it are a lot easier for a place like the Philippines.[/QUOTE]IMHO, I am surprised by both the US action and the UK action. The raw data is not available on all the vaccines. Hence hard for an independent peer analysis. Think Boeing 737 MAX whereby FAA allowed Boeing to do some FAA certification.
The interesting thing is that the cold storage chain for Pfizer / BioNTech is supposedly still being worked out, according to the news. I find that hard to believe as many, including Bill Gates and the organizations they work with, have been looking at this for some time.
Sputnik and Sinovac do not need such very cold storage. Also Sinovac is going to have more local production as with Brazil.
Even the ice cream I eat sometimes are not maintained in a proper cold storage chain.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2508804]Well. Britain approved a vaccine because Gavin Williamson says it is a better country. Since better people from the better country will soon be able to benefit from a vaccine developed by Turkish immigrants and rebel colonists and be able to have a vaccine certificate to allow the better vaccinated people to fly on an airline founded by convict descendants to the land of better pussies. So get in line quickly.
I am getting totally drained by all the parched pussies.[/QUOTE]The better country proud boys would be happy to see their grandparents being vaccined number one and two in England and their Northern Ireland sister was number one.
Think PI most likely get first proud boy visitors from either the colonist or thebetter country. The US is keeping all vaccine production within its borders. For now.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2505987]He could have stayed.
He could be on one of the allowed visas, business, diplomatic SIRV, spousal.
[/QUOTE]I wonder if that might apply to me then (not that Australia allows us out at the moment.). I have an APEC card, so don't actually need a visa of any kind to travel to Philippines (and most of the rest of Asia). Anybody know?
[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;2512935]I wonder if that might apply to me then (not that Australia allows us out at the moment.). I have an APEC card, so don't actually need a visa of any kind to travel to Philippines (and most of the rest of Asia). Anybody know?[/QUOTE]Maybe I've got an APEC also but haven't asked my immi agent. I will send off an enquiry on Monday. Also consider the limited flights back or a J fare. So assuming you can get a waive to the Australian exit ban, then the J fare back to Au plus the cost of 2 weeks quarantine it's not a sensible business proposition for pussy. Have to adapt to our local environment.
[QUOTE=BrizLad;2513242]Maybe I've got an APEC also but haven't asked my immi agent. I will send off an enquiry on Monday. Also consider the limited flights back or a J fare. So assuming you can get a waive to the Australian exit ban, then the J fare back to Au plus the cost of 2 weeks quarantine it's not a sensible business proposition for pussy. Have to adapt to our local environment.[/QUOTE]Approval for an APEC card takes about 6 months and requires vetting by 20 countries. I'm sure if you had gone through it you would know!! I do have a travel exemption already (for business), but you're right about the cost / reward analysis, for now. Other travel I have done didn't require me going into quarantine but only because of tightly controlled environments related to those trips. Certainly not the case for going pussy hunting! .
Sigh.
[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;2513265]Approval for an APEC card takes about 6 months and requires vetting by 20 countries. I'm sure if you had gone through it you would know!! I do have a travel exemption already (for business), but you're right about the cost / reward analysis, for now. Other travel I have done didn't require me going into quarantine but only because of tightly controlled environments related to those trips. Certainly not the case for going pussy hunting! .
Sigh.[/QUOTE]I was referring to the acceptance of the APEC visa as a valid entry in the current climate (while neither confirming or denying that I have one.).
The best sight you can have in a crowded NAIA arrivals hall is the empty APEC channel.
[QUOTE=BrizLad;2513472]I was referring to the acceptance of the APEC visa as a valid entry in the current climate (while neither confirming or denying that I have one.).
The best sight you can have in a crowded NAIA arrivals hall is the empty APEC channel.[/QUOTE]Ahh, gotcha, my bad. Yeah, that empty lane is always a pleasure.
I see Duterte's finest sre now taking the drug war to neighbours, whacking them with impunity. No more Covid worries for them. Amazing who supports these brazen killers. [URL]https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/execution-style-killing-of-mother-and-son-by-off-duty-cop-sparks-outrage-in-philippines[/URL].
Since the malls re-opened about 4 months ago, they have operated on a very limited capacity (here). Only a few stores originally re-opened, and at half-capacity (as required by proclamation). Later, more stores opened, with currently about 70% of them open, still operating at half capacity. There is almost never a line at the entrances prior to the mall's opening time since covid started. As late as last week, there were at most times of day only about a 30% capacity customer count in the malls, relatively light (especially considering its December / Christmas). But starting Monday this week, the customer capacity doubled (or more). As of today, long lines waiting to get in, with no more social distancing, the outside lines themselves people are close and bumping into each other. The Gaisano grocery store is back to its glory days of all 50+ lanes open with long lines as of 10:30 am. Heavier than normal police presence Mon-Tues this week, a few patrolling or one at the entrance of the mall. This morning at one mall entrance, five heavily-armed camouflaged police at just one mall entrance, helping the guards check every person's bags, eye dee, exit passes, face masks + shield.
Merry Christmas!
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2513898]I see Duterte's finest sre now taking the drug war to neighbours, whacking them with impunity. No more Covid worries for them. Amazing who supports these brazen killers. [URL]https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/execution-style-killing-of-mother-and-son-by-off-duty-cop-sparks-outrage-in-philippines[/URL].[/QUOTE][URL]https://news.visayandailystar.com/4500-cops-dismissed/[/URL]
Browsing thru the Makati and Malate airbnb condos. Many descriptions now include that if you come in from outside Manila, you must quarantine 14 days or get a negative Covid test. Same for any guests you might have. Many of them now limit you to yourself and one other person; when I contact the host there is no wriggle-room on this (whereas previous to Covid, the same unit and same host was just fine if I wanted to bring in a third person for the night, or rotate girls daily, as long as they signed in and coughed up their eye dee). "Sorry management is strict on this sir". One guest only at the time of entry / registration, so you would be stuck with one girl only. Also prices are 1. 5 - 2 x what they were last January; I paid p30 k all in for a month at that time, the same place for the same time January 2021 is now listed p55 k, as are many others well over p50 k that were 25-35 k a year ago.
A gent here shared similar info with me over coffee a few months ago. His long-time GF moved out of their unit and back in with her sick mom. The relationship had soured previously, and then was over. He contacted one of his previous girls. He met her for coffee and took her back to his place, only to be denied by security: "No new guests". He has since been making use of ST hotels.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2516206]Browsing thru the Makati and Malate airbnb condos. Many descriptions now include that if you come in from outside Manila, you must quarantine 14 days or get a negative Covid test. Same for any guests you might have. Many of them now limit you to yourself and one other person; when I contact the host there is no wriggle-room on this (whereas previous to Covid, the same unit and same host was just fine if I wanted to bring in a third person for the night, or rotate girls daily, as long as they signed in and coughed up their eye dee). "Sorry management is strict on this sir". One guest only at the time of entry / registration, so you would be stuck with one girl only. Also prices are 1. 5 - 2 x what they were last January; I paid p30 k all in for a month at that time, the same place for the same time January 2021 is now listed p55 k, as are many others well over p50 k that were 25-35 k a year ago.
A gent here shared similar info with me over coffee a few months ago. His long-time GF moved out of their unit and back in with her sick mom. The relationship had soured previously, and then was over. He contacted one of his previous girls. He met her for coffee and took her back to his place, only to be denied by security: "No new guests". He has since been making use of ST hotels.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update Westie. Seems like horny mongers should wait until a travel bubble is created between their respective rich white man lands and the Philippines. That might actually be a few years away. In Australia, the government is still pondering a travel bubble between Australia and NZ. Both countries have between 0-20 live cases. That might be about six months away. I would think that third world countries would be last on the list. I don't think mongers will be traveling to the Philippines in 2021.
Why are landlord jacking up rents? Is that to make up for previous losses in typical Asian fashion?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2516206]Browsing thru the Makati and Malate airbnb condos. Many descriptions now include that if you come in from outside Manila, you must quarantine 14 days or get a negative Covid test. Same for any guests you might have. Many of them now limit you to yourself and one other person; when I contact the host there is no wriggle-room on this (whereas previous to Covid, the same unit and same host was just fine if I wanted to bring in a third person for the night, or rotate girls daily, as long as they signed in and coughed up their eye dee). "Sorry management is strict on this sir". One guest only at the time of entry / registration, so you would be stuck with one girl only. Also prices are 1. 5 - 2 x what they were last January; I paid p30 k all in for a month at that time, the same place for the same time January 2021 is now listed p55 k, as are many others well over p50 k that were 25-35 k a year ago.[/QUOTE]Welcome to Asia. Business going slow? Increase prices, that'll definitely attract more customers!
I would think that countries like PI are struggling so badly that they would welcome westerners with open arms as long as they're vaccinated. The only bottleneck on travel at this point is worldwide vaccination and people's willingness to take it. Personally I hope we get a card that lets us travel freely. I'm really missing my bi-yearly two-week-millionaire trips to PI.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2516229]Thanks for the update Westie. Seems like horny mongers should wait until a travel bubble is created between their respective rich white man lands and the Philippines. That might actually be a few years away. In Australia, the government is still pondering a travel bubble between Australia and NZ. Both countries have between 0-20 live cases. That might be about six months away. I would think that third world countries would be last on the list. I don't think mongers will be traveling to the Philippines in 2021.
Why are landlord jacking up rents? Is that to make up for previous losses in typical Asian fashion?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RainMania;2516496]Welcome to Asia. Business going slow? Increase prices, that'll definitely attract more customers![/QUOTE]Thailand followed that maxim for many years. I guess there is a kind of cartel that keeps a floor on prices. Some die hards, as we know, will pay any price for a field hand's hand job. Some even marry them ffs. I think, like any other property market, pussy is location, location, location. And segmented. I would imagine the trike drivers are getting their rocks off for a bowl of rice and pak pak but others will wait to get that extra ££.
I recently posted about Grandma Libby in Bristol, England charging 8000 PHP per hour to eat her out.
I remember during the financial crisis of some years back a Brazilian hooker moaning to me that local European students were doing it for half of her rate and she had bills to pay. It is this sense of entitlement. If students will spread their legs for less, surely they all should. , But that is not how it works.
The Internet does not help. More punters and less bottom feeding as they all think they deserve a living wage for an hour's work.
One thing is sure. The price of internet pussy in Europe is nuts. Way over priced and bad quality. That is what giving women alternative options leads to.
Has anyone experienced urban myths like those parts of Greece where hookers will bonk for a bite of a sandwich? It looks like an easy way to have Zorba kill you but who is to know?
It is sad to see the Philippines slip away. I have money but no honey.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2516229]Why are landlord jacking up rents? Is that to make up for previous losses in typical Asian fashion?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RainMania;2516496]Welcome to Asia. Business going slow? Increase prices, that'll definitely attract more customers![/QUOTE]Meant to mention this. RM spot on, nobody is renting, so spot on raise the rates. No different than any other product here.
I'm considering buying a condo in Manila for my retirement. What's up with prices? I don't understand how the market works.
As quality is so low, I'm only looking at premium stuff like Ayala Premier, or similar high end condos in BGC or Makati. But as my pension will be low and rents are high in manila I consider buying to protect myself against a possibly rising pesos in the next 10/15 years vs Euro. After all in the last 10/15 years it already moved from 70+ to 58 now.
When I check ads on property24 or or lumundi I see ads that are there for months with unchanged price, none of this makes any sense (as often in the Phils!). As Airbnb hope of returns were driving the market up, in those circumstances prices should drop but that doesn't reflect on ads.
So my question is how to know the "real" price of a condo? I can see 50 shades of me getting ripped off when buying a condo and it drives me crazy:).
Can you make good deals from second hand market from recent developments (10 ish years max) like let's say Gramercy or Park Terraces.
In Europe or USA you can access transactions databases, is there such thing in the Philippines?
Also most ads from developers seems to mention discounts if you pay cash. So I'm wondering what kind of discounts can you hope to get if you pay cash.
With many Chinese POGO gone, with Airbnb market crashing, and local workforce being paid low wages, I really don't see what could keep such high prices, especially since so many news condos are always being built.
The only market segment that must still be relatively solvent must be philam!
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2516513]Thailand followed that maxim for many years. I guess there is a kind of cartel that keeps a floor on prices. Some die hards, as we know, will pay any price for a field hand's hand job. Some even marry them ffs. I think, like any other property market, pussy is location, location, location. And segmented. I would imagine the trike drivers are getting their rocks off for a bowl of rice and pak pak but others will wait to get that extra .
I recently posted about Grandma Libby in Bristol, England charging 8000 PHP per hour to eat her out.
Has anyone experienced urban myths like those parts of Greece where hookers will bonk for a bite of a sandwich? It looks like an easy way to have Zorba kill you but who is to know?
It is sad to see the Philippines slip away. I have money but no honey.[/QUOTE]Yes as corrupt as the PI is now, there is always room for more corruption. In regards to the urban myths, I once had an old retired Sailor tell me a story of how back in the 50's his ship was in Greece and he wanted some but didn't have any money so he told the hooker he was the Captain of the ship and she could have it if she gave him some. He did it and ran back to the ship. I figure there is some old ancient Greek hooker out there at one time claiming she owned a US Navy vessel.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2516513]Has anyone experienced urban myths like those parts of Greece where hookers will bonk for a bite of a sandwich?[/QUOTE]Not PI but I arrived in Asia just as the Asian Financial Crisis was hitting full swing and local currencies were collapsing vs the USD by well over 80% There was no such thing as Short Time. LT was pick her up anytime one day and return her anytime the next day for $7. For an extra $1 you got the weekend rate: collection any time after work Friday and return her in one piece on the way back to work on Monday morning. Services included fuktoy, house cleaning and anything else required. There was no limit to what you could ask for. The only requirement was that she had to be fed. The girls would tolerate part payment, any deviant act imaginable or being old and ugly but WW III would erupt if they weren't fed. 😁.
I remember those days fondly.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. I forgot the girls that offered a bulk buy discount. For $2 you got a quicky, normally in the bed of a pickup, but you had to bring 4 buddies. I wonder if the 5th got a discount?
At $10 an hour she was doing really well vs her sisters. She didn't get a meal though. 😎.
No, these are not myths. They were reality during the late nineties.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2516660]No, these are not myths. They were reality during the late nineties.[/QUOTE]Times have changed. When I first came to the PH in the early 2000's everything was possible, it was a land of opportunities!
During my recent stays, I've talked to so many "models" that wouldn't get out of their beds for a 10 K dinner date!
I was so shocked to see those girls turn so easily 10 K pesos which is about one month wage for a regular joe in Manila.
I wonder how much those girls make in their modeling gigs and car shows.
[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2516512]I would think that countries like PI are struggling so badly that they would welcome westerners with open arms as long as they're vaccinated. The only bottleneck on travel at this point is worldwide vaccination and people's willingness to take it. Personally I hope we get a card that lets us travel freely. I'm really missing my bi-yearly two-week-millionaire trips to PI.[/QUOTE]Mongers overestimate the contribution they make to the Philippines economy.
Even if the Philippines allows tourists, will your home country then allow you back in without a 2-week quarantine, even with a current vaccination certificate? That's the $64,000 question. We don't know the effectiveness of the vaccine, so no one can predict what the border opening rules will be.
Do you really want to be traveling around the Philippines with masks and shields and face the insurmountable, illogical rules being applied daily by petty bureaucrats? The kind of idiotic rules WC has to deal with daily. Doesn't sound like a fun holiday to me.
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[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2516513]I recently posted about Grandma Libby in Bristol, England charging 8000 PHP per hour to eat her out..[/QUOTE]I saw this post and thought it was a joke, hence the nature of my reply.
Not sure how anyone could power through the fermenting bread smell, but to each his own. I guess.
[QUOTE=EscortFan;2516715]Times have changed. When I first came to the PH in the early 2000's everything was possible, it was a land of opportunities!
During my recent stays, I've talked to so many "models" that wouldn't get out of their beds for a 10 K dinner date!
I was so shocked to see those girls turn so easily 10 K pesos which is about one month wage for a regular joe in Manila.
I wonder how much those girls make in their modeling gigs and car shows.[/QUOTE]There are thousands of these Filipina "models" plying their trade on IG. Seemingly average looking girls routinely have more than 100 k followers. I'm thinking WTF? With product endorsements, magazine shoots, YouTube channels, TikTok and the very lucrative Alua fans only site, they are making very good money. Many have social media experts managing them. Someone with 200 k followers could potentially earn USD $500 k a year. Back in the 1990's and 2000's, the poor Pinay could not reach customers beyond the bar where she worked. Now she has a global audience. Kinda like how Bezos' wealth has multiplied during the pandemic. Your 10 k peso offer for a root wouldn't cover their drinks bill after a photo shoot. Seriously wealthy mongers are taking them to exotic locations and showering them with shit from Louis Vuitton. Just look at their photos.
All is not gloom and doom. If you go on PL, there are bargains to be had and for general mongering purposes, that will probably suffice. These girls have never sat in a car, let alone been a model at a car show.
Supposedly there is going to be something on Apple phones that works like a digital wallet to prove vaccination.
Spain is going to track those who op out.
PI just banned more countries.
Oxford vaccine looks like it is going to try and make itself affordable and available for mass distribution. The China vaccine looks like will be available here too.
I tried looking through the first few pages of the Philippines forums, but couldn't find the answer to my question:
Where's the best to hobby (selection quality / price) in the Philippines? I'm guessing it's in Angeles City.
I've tried looking through the first few pages of the Angeles City forum, but most of the topics right now are about covid, best hobbying times, and condoms. I saw one guy post about 1500 peso hunting on dating apps, but don't know if those are realistic expectations for your average touring hobbyist.
I appreciate the help. I know some info on hobbying in Thailand (my last visit was 1 yr ago), US, and Mexico. So happy to share info if you need.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2516812]Where's the best to hobby (selection quality / price) in the Philippines? I'm guessing it's in Angeles City.[/QUOTE]If you're budget oriented like a harddiscounter AC is hard to beat for sure.
But if you're looking for quality value for money I think Manila is hard to beat *IF* you take the time to prepare you trip, and invest time in finding girls on dating app for ex.
If you're a PH virgin, I'd suggest 3/4 days in AC, 5 days in Manila and 4 days in Cebu.
Currently it's so hard to enter PH unless you're one of the lucky few with visa, (I read there is a cap of 2500 entries per day at NAIA) that you probably have time to prepare your trip.
Travel after vaccines. Maybe. Couple of articles, says to early to tell if recent vaccines will stop infection. These vaccines may stop symptoms only.
[URL]https://ca.news.yahoo.com/said-no-evidence-covid-19-115511010.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-11-24/do-coronavirus-vaccines-prevent-infection-or-disease/12905654[/URL]
[I]"At the moment I don't believe we have the evidence of any of the vaccines to be confident that it's going to prevent people from actually getting the infection and therefore being able to pass it on," Swaminathan told a virtual briefing, in comments reported by Axios. Swaminathan was responding to a question about whether vaccinated people should still be required to quarantine when traveling to countries with lower transmission rates. "I think until we know more, we need to assume that people who have been vaccinated also need to take the same precautions until there is a certain level of herd immunity that's been built in the population," she said.[/I]
And.
[I]Moderna's chief medical officer, Tal Zaks, said last month that he believed it was likely the vaccine would prevent transmission but warned that there was not yet "sufficient evidence" of it. "When we start the deployment of this vaccine we will not have sufficient concrete data to prove that this vaccine reduces transmission," he told "Axios on HBO." "I think it's important that we don't change behavior solely on the basis of vaccination."[/I]
[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2516512]I would think that countries like PI are struggling so badly that they would welcome westerners with open arms as long as they're vaccinated. The only bottleneck on travel at this point is worldwide vaccination and people's willingness to take it. Personally I hope we get a card that lets us travel freely. I'm really missing my bi-yearly two-week-millionaire trips to PI.[/QUOTE]Given the above, and the 'western' countries' considerably higher rates of transmission (and death, see US rates) and the above information, I would think PI would more wisely ban people from any country with a higher rate of infection, even the vaccinated, until it can be shown that the vax prevents transmission. Until it can be shown to stop transmission, the swab, mask, and social distancing will be "a thing".
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2516812]I tried looking through the first few pages of the Philippines forums, but couldn't find the answer to my question:
Where's the best to hobby (selection quality / price) in the Philippines? I'm guessing it's in Angeles City.
I've tried looking through the first few pages of the Angeles City forum, but most of the topics right now are about covid, best hobbying times, and condoms. I saw one guy post about 1500 peso hunting on dating apps, but don't know if those are realistic expectations for your average touring hobbyist.
I appreciate the help. I know some info on hobbying in Thailand (my last visit was 1 yr ago), US, and Mexico. So happy to share info if you need.[/QUOTE]Its there if you RTFF properly and look at the threads, make some notes and then PM a few of us / The hobbying at the moment is also discussed (are you surprised we speak about COVID19?) and there are even links and comments in when it may / may not be back to pre COVID19 days. There are discussions from some members incl myself on the best places and the ones we would not return to again. Plus chats on bars, prices, where to stay, even the cuties.
So there is plenty there if you want to RTFF and not go back 3 pages of the AC thread for example as we have Manila, Cebu, Davao, Duma, CDO, Baguio and everything in between each with their quirks.
And you do seem to ask a lot of questions (just a comment based on your FR history of 44).
Happy 2021 everyone. Hopefully won't be as bad as this year.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2516830]Given the above, and the 'western' countries' considerably higher rates of transmission (and death, see US rates) and the above information, I would think PI would more wisely ban people from any country with a higher rate of infection, even the vaccinated, until it can be shown that the vax prevents transmission. Until it can be shown to stop transmission, the swab, mask, and social distancing will be "a thing".[/QUOTE]Moderna & Pfizer report that their vaccines are highly effective. Moderna is rated at 94% efficacy & Pfizer at 95%. The Astra Zeneca vaccine is rated at only 62% effective. Forget A. Z.
So, there is significant statistical probability that even a Pfizer vaccinated traveler with a recent negative Corona test result and no temperature upon arrival could be carrying the virus and infect the local population. That means the governments of the PI, Thailand, and Indonesia are not likely going to end their quarantines and start letting foreign travelers into their country until their own populations have been inoculated. They just ain't going to do it.
Now I don't know what the rollout timetable is for the PI, but Mini, my #1 in BKK, told me that the Thai government is telling its citizens that Corona vaccine inoculations will begin in BKK in May. So, if this roll out happens on time, it will still take months, maybe 6 months or longer for 60% to 70% of the Thai population to be inoculated and for the country to achieve 'herd immunity. " So, I am hoping I will be allowed back into the Kingdom (no quarantine) in October or November, but I wouldn't bet on it, ha ha, IE buy an Airline ticket just yet.
Closer to home, I am wondering when the fuck I will have the opportunity to get the vaccine in the good ol' USA. The higher ups in the US Government have stated publicly that anyone that wants a vaccine will be able to get one by May. Based on my age, I am thinking I might be able to get one by the end of March. I hope so because I am planning to fly down to Brazil in April, and I do not want to cancel that trip. Keep in mind that Brazil is open (no quarantine) now. I have friends that are there now and having a great time as I write this, IE fucking their brains out, but I am going to play it safe and wait until I get the shots. I know that they are 95% effective and thus are not 100% guarantied, but I can live with 5% risk. I am not going to live another year like 2020.
To sum up my tentative plans; Brazil in the spring 2021, Thailand in the late fall 2021, and the PI sometime in 2022.
Have a great 2021!
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2516788]All is not gloom and doom. If you go on PL, there are bargains to be had and for general mongering purposes, that will probably suffice. These girls have never sat in a car, let alone been a model at a car show.[/QUOTE]Very true and often the Provincial Princess will be just as good looking as the Manila Model. Maybe without on point makeup or flattering designer clothes but that's a fair trade for no attitude and a fun demeanor. "You mean I can stay here all night?
I remember once passing out as an ink spot of sweat at 4 am, girly returning from the shower and asking "Was that ok?" More than OK sweety.
Enjoy, G.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2516788]Now she has a global audience. Kinda like how Bezos' wealth has multiplied during the pandemic. Your 10 k peso offer for a root wouldn't cover their drinks bill after a photo shoot[/QUOTE]Don't forget that these girls are making AND burning through cash at a prodigious rate. Her willingness to accept the 10 k offer may be very variable and heavily influenced by her situation at that point at time. Just because the OP got a knockback once does not mean she will refuse again at some point in the future.
I know a promo girl in Cebu who eagerly accepted my standard 3 k LT offer once only to laugh me off the next visit.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=EscortFan;2516827]If you're budget oriented like a harddiscounter AC is hard to beat for sure.
But if you're looking for quality value for money I think Manila is hard to beat *IF* you take the time to prepare you trip, and invest time in finding girls on dating app for ex.
If you're a PH virgin, I'd suggest 3/4 days in AC, 5 days in Manila and 4 days in Cebu.
Currently it's so hard to enter PH unless you're one of the lucky few with visa, (I read there is a cap of 2500 entries per day at NAIA) that you probably have time to prepare your trip.[/QUOTE]Pound for pound I don't find Angeles any cheaper than anywhere else in the PI. I'd actually put as a more expensive place to stay.
Girls are cheaper in the provinces.
Equivalent quality hotels are cheaper in MNL and CEB.
Western food is plentiful but at near western prices and pretty low quality.
Having said that, assuming AC survives Covid, then it's a must do once for a newbie. The OP splitting his time between a few cities would be good. Cebu can take a little bit of time to find ones feet but it's the online hook up center of the PI and resembles shooting fish in a barrel.
Enjoy. G.
I mentioned I read through the first few pages (AC and Manila) to point out that I tried RTFF. If you don't find the answer you're looking for after looking through 6 pages worth of posts, I think it's acceptable to ask people who are more knowledgeable and active. No, I'm not surprised that people are talking about COVID. The only reason I mentioned it was to show yes, I did read, but did not find what I was looking for. I'm not sure what your level of acceptable RTFF is. I'm sure the info is there. But I didn't want to read through 10+ pages when someone else probably has an answer on the tip of their tongue. That person is obviously not you. Search features in these forums usually suck balls.
I'm not as active here because I don't travel as much as I'd like. I usually post when I'm researching a trip or coming back from one. Which is why I only have 44 posts.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2516840]Its there if you RTFF properly and look at the threads, make some notes and then PM a few of us / The hobbying at the moment is also discussed (are you surprised we speak about COVID19?) and there are even links and comments in when it may / may not be back to pre COVID19 days. There are discussions from some members incl myself on the best places and the ones we would not return to again. Plus chats on bars, prices, where to stay, even the cuties.
So there is plenty there if you want to RTFF and not go back 3 pages of the AC thread for example as we have Manila, Cebu, Davao, Duma, CDO, Baguio and everything in between each with their quirks.
And you do seem to ask a lot of questions (just a comment based on your FR history of 44).
Happy 2021 everyone. Hopefully won't be as bad as this year.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the tip. I've done the trip to Vietnam and Thailand. Done plenty of homework before the trips to figure out the best watering holes and enjoyed both trips. Thoroughly enjoyed Thailand more due to the plethora of selections and venues (e. G. Nana, Soi Cowboy, Pattaya Walking St, etc).
I searched to see what costs are like in AC:
Short time: 1,500 – 2500 Peso.
Long Time: 2,500 – 4000 Peso.
Is that about right?
I've tried dating sites when I visited Thailand without much success. It was just much easier to go to the bars (esp Thermae Cafe) to find the girl of the night. I think the biggest problem with the dating apps was that I really didn't find many girls I was attracted to. And the ones I was attracted to were probably so popular, they hardly reply unless you have a really nice profile and / or opening message.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2516860]Pound for pound I don't find Angeles any cheaper than anywhere else in the PI. I'd actually put as a more expensive place to stay.
Girls are cheaper in the provinces.
Equivalent quality hotels are cheaper in MNL and CEB.
Western food is plentiful but at near western prices and pretty low quality.
Having said that, assuming AC survives Covid, then it's a must do once for a newbie. The OP splitting his time between a few cities would be good. Cebu can take a little bit of time to find ones feet but it's the online hook up center of the PI and resembles shooting fish in a barrel.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2516865]Thanks for the tip. I've done the trip to Vietnam and Thailand. Done plenty of homework before the trips to figure out the best watering holes and enjoyed both trips. Thoroughly enjoyed Thailand more due to the plethora of selections and venues (e. G. Nana, Soi Cowboy, Pattaya Walking St, etc).
I searched to see what costs are like in AC:
Short time: 1,500 2500 Peso.
Long Time: 2,500 4000 Peso.
Is that about right?
I've tried dating sites when I visited Thailand without much success. It was just much easier to go to the bars (esp Thermae Cafe) to find the girl of the night. I think the biggest problem with the dating apps was that I really didn't find many girls I was attracted to. And the ones I was attracted to were probably so popular, they hardly reply unless you have a really nice profile and / or opening message.[/QUOTE]Very hard to generalize. You have 3 different areas, AC, Manila and Cebu which attracts 3 different mongers.
In addition since covid all previous bets are off. Not sure how any foreigner would get into PH now since the lock out.
Lots of conjecture but no facts.
Please detail what type of monger you are and what exactly you would like. I personally like AC and don't care for the other 2 areas for mongering.
Sure, fair question. These questions are for when travel opens back up. Probably later in 2021. I'm guessing there will be countries that allow easier travel once the vaccine is more readily available, and if people can show they were vaccinated. Of course that's conjecture. Anyways, the plan is to travel once things ease up.
I've visited Thailand 3 times in the past 4 years and loved the bar scenes there. Especially how intimate you can get and gauge interest / chemistry before selecting a girl and taking her to your hotel. I usually enjoy long time sessions at night and hit up soapland massages for daytime fun while I was in Thailand.
Most likely, I suspect my visit to PI will start in AC. I'll probably visit for 2 weeks, and head over to Thailand for a week. So maybe a week in AC, then a week in BKK, then back to PI, probably Manila. But I'll keep my plans flexible, and if I'm having the time of my life in PI, I probably won't hop over to Thailand.
This was similar to how I did my trip to Vietnam. Cut my time short in VN because I felt like the Thailand monger scene was livelier.
BTW, that price quote was for AC. I haven't looked up costs and venues in other areas yet. I'm still pretty early in my research.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2516867]Very hard to generalize. You have 3 different areas, AC, Manila and Cebu which attracts 3 different mongers.
In addition since covid all previous bets are off. Not sure how any foreigner would get into PH now since the lock out.
Lots of conjecture but no facts.
Please detail what type of monger you are and what exactly you would like. I personally like AC and don't care for the other 2 areas for mongering.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2516871]Sure, fair question. These questions are for when travel opens back up. Probably later in 2021. I'm guessing there will be countries that allow easier travel once the vaccine is more readily available, and if people can show they were vaccinated. Of course that's conjecture. Anyways, the plan is to travel once things ease up.
I've visited Thailand 3 times in the past 4 years and loved the bar scenes there. Especially how intimate you can get and gauge interest / chemistry before selecting a girl and taking her to your hotel. I usually enjoy long time sessions at night and hit up soapland massages for daytime fun while I was in Thailand.
Most likely, I suspect my visit to PI will start in AC. I'll probably visit for 2 weeks, and head over to Thailand for a week. So maybe a week in AC, then a week in BKK, then back to PI, probably Manila. But I'll keep my plans flexible, and if I'm having the time of my life in PI, I probably won't hop over to Thailand.
This was similar to how I did my trip to Vietnam. Cut my time short in VN because I felt like the Thailand monger scene was livelier.
BTW, that price quote was for AC. I haven't looked up costs and venues in other areas yet. I'm still pretty early in my research.[/QUOTE]First AC bar scene was never comparable to BKK bar scene. AC bars have been shut down since covid and may never come back the same. Current ones have converted to restaurant sports bar like operations with windows. No more skimpy bargirl outfits and dressed as waitresses.
I imagine your guess of ST and LT rates are in the ball park. I just don't know how you would make contact. Some say it is all online now.
There are economy hotels near walking street. Personally on my next visit I will live it up at ABC Hotel. I believe when AC opens back up it will be FL on walking street instead of inside the bars. The go to night club High Society has closed down for good on walking street. It used to have plenty of FL there. In all my years I have never been to HS, I am usually in bed with one or two girls by 11 pm.
I have no idea how the Manila or Makati bars will revive themselves.
You can YouTube Angeles City bars to get an idea of the previous layout.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2516865]
I searched to see what costs are like in AC:
Short time: 1,500 2500 Peso.
Long Time: 2,500 4000 Peso.
Is that about right?[/QUOTE]That's about right for pre covid prices but remember that AC is notorious for runners and everything is prepaid before leaving the bar. You may have agreed and paid for a 4 k all nighter only to find the girl on her way out the door after one mediocre session.
Who knows what will happen post covid but I don't know anyone that is predicting a dramatic improvement in enjoyment levels nor pricing.
Reports of online and freelance successes vary tremendously. Some enjoy and use them a lot. Others find them a waste of time. Giving them a try is the only way to find out.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2516830]Travel after vaccines. Maybe. Couple of articles, says to early to tell if recent vaccines will stop infection. These vaccines may stop symptoms only.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;2516845]Moderna & Pfizer report that their vaccines are highly effective. Moderna is rated at 94% efficacy & Pfizer at 95%.[/QUOTE]
So much for that:
"A San Diego nurse who received the Pfizer vaccine during the initial rollout was diagnosed with a COVID-19 infection on Dec. 26, despite being vaccinated more than a week earlier. Matthew W. , works as an Emergency Room attendant in two separate Southern California hospitals, and only noted that after receiving the vaccine, his arm was sore but had no other side effects. Then, on Christmas Eve, following a shift in a COVID-19 unit, Matthew became ill, with symptoms including chills, muscle aches and fatigue. On Dec. 26, he tested positive for COVID-19."
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2516896]So much for that:
"A San Diego nurse who received the Pfizer vaccine during the initial rollout was diagnosed with a COVID-19 infection on Dec. 26, despite being vaccinated more than a week earlier. Matthew W. , works as an Emergency Room attendant in two separate Southern California hospitals, and only noted that after receiving the vaccine, his arm was sore but had no other side effects. Then, on Christmas Eve, following a shift in a COVID-19 unit, Matthew became ill, with symptoms including chills, muscle aches and fatigue. On Dec. 26, he tested positive for COVID-19."[/QUOTE]The effectiveness of a vaccine isn't judged simply by whether you get sick or not from the disease the vaccine is intended to protect you from. With most vaccines you can still get sick, but the vaccine can still be deemed to be effective if it can successfully reduce and control the severity of the symptoms, preserve your life, and help prevent community spread. I had the flu last week, but it was very, very mild relatively speaking, and really didn't put me down at all. Thanks the to flu shot vaccine I took way back in September! I still got sick with the flu, but the vaccine prevented it from getting me downright in the bed sick. I had the antibodies in me to fight back effectively, and that's what it's all about.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2516896]So much for that:
"A San Diego nurse who received the Pfizer vaccine during the initial rollout was diagnosed with a COVID-19 infection on Dec. 26, despite being vaccinated more than a week earlier. Matthew W. , works as an Emergency Room attendant in two separate Southern California hospitals, and only noted that after receiving the vaccine, his arm was sore but had no other side effects. Then, on Christmas Eve, following a shift in a COVID-19 unit, Matthew became ill, with symptoms including chills, muscle aches and fatigue. On Dec. 26, he tested positive for COVID-19."[/QUOTE]I would argue that this could be a one-off, a coincidence. Alternately, already doctors in the media are saying the nurse didn't have enough time for the vaccine to work. My question: How long is long enough? Another thought: If the vax is only 94% effective, then 6% of those vaccinated will still get the disease and get symptoms; hence making ME's case that Matthew is one of those.
NB: Regarding the efficiency percentage (94%, 62% those numbers only regard if the vaccine keeps you from getting symptoms if you become infected. Assuming you do become infected and have the vaccine, you won't get symptoms, you become an asymptomatic carrier. You can still pass on the virus to others. Hence, from the perspective of receiving countries such as Phils or Brazil, your (and other travelers) having had the vaccine prior to entering Phils is not a big help to Filipino's. You don't show any symptoms, but you could easily be passing it on to everyone else. Hence my argument that until herd immunity develops in Phils / Brazil, they would not be wise to allow entry to foreigners. I could be wrong.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2516896]So much for that:
"A San Diego nurse who received the Pfizer vaccine during the initial rollout was diagnosed with a COVID-19 infection on Dec. 26, despite being vaccinated more than a week earlier. Matthew W. , works as an Emergency Room attendant in two separate Southern California hospitals, and only noted that after receiving the vaccine, his arm was sore but had no other side effects. Then, on Christmas Eve, following a shift in a COVID-19 unit, Matthew became ill, with symptoms including chills, muscle aches and fatigue. On Dec. 26, he tested positive for COVID-19."[/QUOTE]Need 2 shots 4 weeks apart to get reported efficacy.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2516919] Hence my argument that until herd immunity develops in Phils / Brazil, they would not be wise to allow entry to foreigners. I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]You could also be very, very right!
[QUOTE=Goferring;2516888]That's about right for pre covid prices but remember that AC is notorious for runners and everything is prepaid before leaving the bar. You may have agreed and paid for a 4 k all nighter only to find the girl on her way out the door after one mediocre session.
Who knows what will happen post covid but I don't know anyone that is predicting a dramatic improvement in enjoyment levels nor pricing.
Reports of online and freelance successes vary tremendously. Some enjoy and use them a lot. Others find them a waste of time. Giving them a try is the only way to find out.[/QUOTE]I find the "I'll give you a nice tip if we have a good time and you stay until breakfast" works well and I've never had a runner.
GE.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2516919]I would argue that this could be a one-off, a coincidence. Alternately, already doctors in the media are saying the nurse didn't have enough time for the vaccine to work. My question: How long is long enough? Another thought: If the vax is only 94% effective, then 6% of those vaccinated will still get the disease and get symptoms; hence making ME's case that Matthew is one of those.
[/QUOTE]The Pfizer vaccine has to be given twice. The second shot has to be given three weeks after the first and then it takes one week more for the vaccine to be fully effective. Or 94% effective actually.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2516952]I find the "I'll give you a nice tip if we have a good time and you stay until breakfast" works well and I've never had a runner.
GE.[/QUOTE]A valid point. I should have pointed out that my recent visit's sample size of Barfines is now very small. Actually one from one failures. Previous visits have included great BFs but they were many years ago.
However, all my online or freelance hook ups were as advertised and enjoyable.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2516961]The Pfizer vaccine has to be given twice. The second shot has to be given three weeks after the first and then it takes one week more for the vaccine to be fully effective. Or 94% effective actually.[/QUOTE]Meanwhile the human immune system is 98.7% effective. Your move.
Unfortunately there really is no one good source of advice. The WHO is closest to the best source for now.
Politics, money and CYA are tainting most previously reliable sources. Including the US CDC.
Most normal people would not be able to digest the scientific data released or even be able to analyze them to formulate some conclusions.
For now, I just follow whatever the rules are and try to live. I take calculated risks, as we al do.
The WHO just announced that we should prepare for a deadlier pandemic. There are some surfacing but have not spread.
Anyway. Happy New Year!
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2516919]I would argue that this could be a one-off, a coincidence. Alternately, already doctors in the media are saying the nurse didn't have enough time for the vaccine to work. My question: How long is long enough? Another thought: If the vax is only 94% effective, then 6% of those vaccinated will still get the disease and get symptoms; hence making ME's case that Matthew is one of those.
NB: Regarding the efficiency percentage (94%, 62% those numbers only regard if the vaccine keeps you from getting symptoms if you become infected. Assuming you do become infected and have the vaccine, you won't get symptoms, you become an asymptomatic carrier. You can still pass on the virus to others. Hence, from the perspective of receiving countries such as Phils or Brazil, your (and other travelers) having had the vaccine prior to entering Phils is not a big help to Filipino's. You don't show any symptoms, but you could easily be passing it on to everyone else. Hence my argument that until herd immunity develops in Phils / Brazil, they would not be wise to allow entry to foreigners. I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]My understanding of the 94% and 95% effectiveness is after second shot. Why not just wait for both shots and then go?
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2516952]I find the "I'll give you a nice tip if we have a good time and you stay until breakfast" works well and I've never had a runner.
[/QUOTE]Why would you pay more to get what you are already supposed to be getting? Agreeing to not cheat a person if they give you more money is some mob extortion shit.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2517107]Why would you pay more to get what you are already supposed to be getting? Agreeing to not cheat a person if they give you more money is some mob extortion shit.[/QUOTE]Extortion: "the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats. " Where is the force or threat when GE offers a tip? Waiters and waitresses hustle and go to some lengths to please diners because they anticipate a better tip. Following your analogy these wait staff are engaging in extortion. Are you opposed to tipping in restaurants? After all, we expect food to be served at our table simply by ordering.
Various AC mongers indicate they don't tip over and above the barfine. If this is so, then bargirls do not necessarily expect a tip, and so I assume they would be pleased with GE's proposition. If implying a tip is inappropriate, should mongers simply not mention running and instead wait with a club and beat the shit out of the woman when she tries to run?
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2517135]Extortion: "the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats. " Where is the force or threat when GE offers a tip?[/QUOTE]Well the threat is that she will leave early or not perform up to par. He made that clear in his post when he said this additional money will be for you following this protocol.
It is not really a tip if you are offering it to someone beforehand. It is a payment to get what you want, which the original payment was actually supposed to be.
If you tell the waitstaff please bring my food in a timely manner and make sure it is hot and make sure my drink is refilled and I will give you a tip; isn't that already what they are supposed to be doing seeing that is what their job is? You should not have to bribe them with extra to make sure they are doing what they are paid to do in the first place.
If I paid a guy to come work on my roof and he came to the house and just sat on his ass, I should not have to say if you get up and put the roof on and clean up after yourself I will give you a tip. That is ridiculous. So telling the chick well if you stay the entire time and you do what hookers are supposed to do then I will pay you extra is equally ridiculous. Extra should be paid for extra, not for obtaining what you are already supposed to be getting.
*Tipping in the USA is a totally different thing. It has come to be understood that you are actually paying the restaurant for the food and you will pay for the service separately in the form of a tip. The amount of this type of tip is generally contingent upon the consumer's perception of the quality of the service they received.
New list from the government as to who is barred from entering. Only 15 days but the absence of USA, Brazil and India is odd given these are some of the worst (incl UK) countries for COVID and the new variant is spreading.
What I found more scary is the comment about undocumented Filipinos entering via Sulu who may have the new variant. Later in the article. Given that many pinoy seem to think fiestas etc are not part of the covid rules this is not a good place to be (many many pinay / pinoy friends bemoan all the times about the 'hard headed' nature of their compatriots!
Am this is not new news to those with blue blues who dream that all is well with the county.
[URL]https://www.arabnews.com/node/1784736/world[/URL]
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2517071]Meanwhile the human immune system is 98.7% effective. Your move.[/QUOTE]98.7% effective in keeping you from dying. Not so much for keeping you from getting symptoms. The vaccines are much better at keeping you from getting symptoms than your immune system. Most of us would rather avoid having fever, loss of taste, lingering symptoms, hence the vaccine.
[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2517092]My understanding of the 94% and 95% effectiveness is after second shot. Why not just wait for both shots and then go?[/QUOTE]So, you get both shots, and are included in the 94% of the folk who will not get symptoms. Good for you. However the vaccination does not stop you from contracting Covid and becoming an asymptomatic, infectious to others (bad for everyone else around you). The disease and vaccines have not been around long enough, with enough people vaccinated, to determine if the vax also stops transmission to others.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2517153] However the vaccination does not stop you from contracting Covid and becoming an asymptomatic, infectious to others (bad for everyone else around you). The disease and vaccines have not been around long enough, with enough people vaccinated, to determine if the vax also stops transmission to others.[/QUOTE]Great response Westie. I would also add that a recent article in Lancet on Covid transmission in Singapore showed that there is probably some transmission by people who are asymptomatic. However, the rate of transmission by people who are asymptomatic appears to be around 30% of the transmission rate for Covid patients with symptoms. If this is true then asymptomatic people would not have a transmission rate high enough for the virus to sustain itself.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2517139]Well the threat is that she will leave early or not perform up to par. He made that clear in his post when he said this additional money will be for you following this protocol. [/QUOTE]This argument is silly on its face. I regret having replied to your earlier post.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2517153]The disease and vaccines have not been around long enough, with enough people vaccinated, to determine if the vax also stops transmission to others.[/QUOTE]Uh-huh. When a false sense of security is better than non at all, get the jab.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2517153]98.7% effective in keeping you from dying. Not so much for keeping you from getting symptoms. The vaccines are much better at keeping you from getting symptoms than your immune system. Most of us would rather avoid having fever, loss of taste, lingering symptoms, hence the vaccine.
....[/QUOTE]I would take getting the symptoms and feeling like a bag of shit for a couple weeks if I knew I would live through it.
I will take the vaccine as soon as it of available to me, even if it costs a pile of pesos to get as a foreigner in country and jump the queue.
I would much rather have 20 p less than leave an extra 20 k p to my kids.
I had said in other forums that give it until Fall 2021 and things will get better. Lo and behold latest from Dr. Fauci was that he expects the US to start to return to normal until near the end of 2021. In other words, the Winter Games in Beijing will go on as expected and the international flights will start back in full swing making their Asia rounds, and other variants of COVID will be deemed more transmissible but less deadly (I. E. A bad cold). As we continue on down the road in 2021 we will see more organizations and governments start moving in this direction.
Don't get me wrong, not trying to say this whole thing is a hoax, lost a few folks I knew, but the approaches that have been taken leave me to be suspect on a few things. I. E. They were not doing as best as they could while Trump was in office but now that he's out, look at this we have a clear way ahead but if he would have mentioned, it nothing but claims of a hoax, etc.
I hope Fauci is right, the vaccines work and people can start back getting to normal, but quit playing around and give us the truth and let us decide what we need to do.
It's funny. And just like that, US is banned from Philippines. Seems like this is due to the new more contagious covid strain.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2517152]New list from the government as to who is barred from entering. Only 15 days but the absence of USA, Brazil and India is odd given these are some of the worst (incl UK) countries for COVID and the new variant is spreading.
What I found more scary is the comment about undocumented Filipinos entering via Sulu who may have the new variant. Later in the article. Given that many pinoy seem to think fiestas etc are not part of the covid rules this is not a good place to be (many many pinay / pinoy friends bemoan all the times about the 'hard headed' nature of their compatriots!
Am this is not new news to those with blue blues who dream that all is well with the county.
[URL]https://www.arabnews.com/node/1784736/world[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2517152]New list from the government as to who is barred from entering. Only 15 days but the absence of USA, Brazil and India is odd given these are some of the worst (incl UK) countries for COVID and the new variant is spreading. [URL]https://www.arabnews.com/node/1784736/world[/URL][/QUOTE]And, from the US State Dept:
[I]Health Alert for U.S. Citizens in the Philippines: Bar on Entry of Travelers from the United States
Starting Sunday, January 1, 2021 at 12:01 a.m., the Philippines will temporarily ban the entry of travelers from, or who have transited through, the United States. Passengers coming from the United States or who have transited through the United States who arrive before Sunday should be allowed to enter the Philippines, but will be required to complete a 14-day facility-based quarantine regardless of their RT-PCR test result.
The Philippine government has also suspended all flights from the United Kingdom and will bar entry to travelers originating or transiting from the following locations: the United Kingdom, South Africa, Switzerland, Italy, Denmark, Israel, Hong Kong, Spain, Ireland, the Netherlands, Singapore, Lebanon, Japan, Canada, Germany, Sweden, Australia, France, Iceland, and South Korea.[/I]
Previously I was in contact with a lady from a dating site. Older, 50's. In chat she would video call from her home, a beautiful place. She was not in need of money, just looking for love. I was surprised she contacted my profile on the site, as it was very playboy-ish and extremely non-commital: "I am not looking to get married again". For a few chats, just some general chat about life. One day she just outright asked if I was chickboy and I said yes. "You have many pilipina before?" Yes. "When you are coming here next?" Two weeks. Would you like to have a cup of coffee with me? "No, I will not have a date with a playboy. But thanks you asked me". Sure. "Can I ask?" Yes ma'am, ask. "When you are here next, please get one girl only". Interesting, why do you ask this of me? "Well to our people sex is a sacred thing. One man and one woman". I see. Thanks for sharing with me. "Will you do it?" Sorry ma'am, I am a playboy. "OK. Take care there". Same, ma'am.
Two weeks later I was in Cebu, 30 minutes from her home. One of my regulars wanted to refer a new girl to me. We met for coffee: Me, the regular, and the new girl (age 28, great smile). After coffee and chat I took the new gal to my place (regular went home). The regular, who is paid talent, never mentioned me giving money to the new girl. After a great 2-round first session with the new gal, after the shower, we were dressed and sitting on the bed. The new gal put her hand on mine and said: "So". Nothing more. Sh*t, is that the hint to cough up something blue? Before I could say anything she said: "I go now". She asked for my number and we exchanged. Then she walked out the door, no money was mentioned or exchanged hands.
An hour later she txt: "Thanks today". Yes, sweetie, same. It was tempting to ask if she expected money. She txt: "Can I see you again?" Yes, lets coffee again, Wednesday, same place, 1 pm? "OK see you then". Great. When we met for coffee, I just asked: Why did you go with me to my place after coffee a few days ago? "Lynn says your good to it". Good to what? She smiled and quietly mouthed the word "F*cking". That's why you went with me? "Yes. Sport. Its good. I know you have other girls, its OK". Not money then. "No and please don't try to give". Check. She became a 2-year on / off regular.
[I]"Well to our people sex is a sacred thing. One man and one woman".[/I] [B]And:[/B] [I]"Yes. Sport. Its good. I know you have other girls, its OK"[/I].
Love. Money. Sex. Sacred. Sport. < < < - - - Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. Have great 2021.
LOL. Thanks for the shits and giggles.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2517493]
Love. Money. Sex. Sacred. Sport. < < < - - - Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. Have great 2021.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2517493]Previously I was in contact with a lady from a dating site. Older, 50's. In chat she would video call from her home, a beautiful place. She was not in need of money, just looking for love. I was surprised she contacted my profile on the site, as it was very playboy-ish and extremely non-commital: "I am not looking to get married again". For a few chats, just some general chat about life. One day she just outright asked if I was chickboy and I said yes. "You have many pilipina before?" Yes. "When you are coming here next?" Two weeks. Would you like to have a cup of coffee with me? "No, I will not have a date with a playboy. But thanks you asked me". Sure. "Can I ask?" Yes ma'am, ask. "When you are here next, please get one girl only". Interesting, why do you ask this of me? "Well to our people sex is a sacred thing. One man and one woman". I see. Thanks for sharing with me. "Will you do it?" Sorry ma'am, I am a playboy. "OK. Take care there". Same, ma'am.
Two weeks later I was in Cebu, 30 minutes from her home. One of my regulars wanted to refer a new girl to me. We met for coffee: Me, the regular, and the new girl (age 28, great smile). After coffee and chat I took the new gal to my place (regular went home). The regular, who is paid talent, never mentioned me giving money to the new girl. After a great 2-round first session with the new gal, after the shower, we were dressed and sitting on the bed. The new gal put her hand on mine and said: "So". Nothing more. Sh*t, is that the hint to cough up something blue? Before I could say anything she said: "I go now". She asked for my number and we exchanged. Then she walked out the door, no money was mentioned or exchanged hands.
An hour later she txt: "Thanks today". Yes, sweetie, same. It was tempting to ask if she expected money. She txt: "Can I see you again?" Yes, lets coffee again, Wednesday, same place, 1 pm? "OK see you then". Great. When we met for coffee, I just asked: Why did you go with me to my place after coffee a few days ago? "Lynn says your good to it". Good to what? She smiled and quietly mouthed the word "F*cking". That's why you went with me? "Yes. Sport. Its good. I know you have other girls, its OK". Not money then. "No and please don't try to give". Check. She became a 2-year on / off regular.
[I]"Well to our people sex is a sacred thing. One man and one woman".[/I] [B]And:[/B] [I]"Yes. Sport. Its good. I know you have other girls, its OK"[/I].
Love. Money. Sex. Sacred. Sport. < < < - - - Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. Have great 2021.[/QUOTE]True, not all want money. All the same I give some. Do not want anything for free in other countries.
Like all girls they want to know who you are. So asking questions about you is normal. Unless it is a bargirl dating site girls do ask lots of questions. After all that some leave and others stay. I believe it is better to be honest and let them know your intentions.
[QUOTE=Drbombay;2517378]I had said in other forums that give it until Fall 2021 and things will get better. Lo and behold latest from Dr. Fauci was that he expects the US to start to return to normal until near the end of 2021. In other words, the Winter Games in Beijing will go on as expected and the international flights will start back in full swing making their Asia rounds.[/QUOTE]While I too think Nov-Dec 2021 might see easier international travel it's unlikely to be a pleasant tourist experience.
Flights are NOT returning to normal with a flick of a switch. It will take years for forward bookings (and confidence) to return to travel. Also have the small problem of the airline industry needing to retrain groundies and pilots. For every pilot they need 10+ simulator hours to get currencies. Simulators will be the limiting factor regardless of demand and so airlines will be forced to charge higher prices. Then there will be the uneven coverage of vaccine where return travel from Philippines will be uncomfortable as our home countries may still treat us a a threat.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2517491]And, from the US State Dept:
[I]Health Alert for U.S. Citizens in the Philippines: Bar on Entry of Travelers from the United States
[/I][/QUOTE]Yes Westie saw that the day after and did not mention my bad.
I read this link.
[URL]https://thehill.com/policy/international/532312-us-travelers-banned-from-philippines-starting-sunday[/URL]
Messy but to be expected for a country that in some parts denies the virus, in other parts does nothings serious about it while others do their hardest. I can't / won't visit my family in USA because of this either.
[QUOTE=BrizLad;2517740]While I too think Nov-Dec 2021 might see easier international travel it's unlikely to be a pleasant tourist experience.
Flights are NOT returning to normal with a flick of a switch. It will take years for forward bookings (and confidence) to return to travel. Also have the small problem of the airline industry needing to retrain groundies and pilots. For every pilot they need 10+ simulator hours to get currencies. Simulators will be the limiting factor regardless of demand and so airlines will be forced to charge higher prices. Then there will be the uneven coverage of vaccine where return travel from Philippines will be uncomfortable as our home countries may still treat us a a threat.[/QUOTE]This is an informed post you make. The mother of all shake ups is on the way. The Philippines has banned flights from the USA: this is a big deal as the Philippines likes to rim the USA.
Here in civilised Europe, things will change too as no one can keep taking losses. Ryanair is trying to expand further (it has big cash reserves). It is banking on a summer 2021 return and pimping the alleged vaccines. But the cost of vaccines and tests messes up their cheap as chips model. I expect only those airlines with major Government / defence back up to survive and shaft everyone. BA and Air France in Europe. Some big Mid east ones too and the Chinese The USA, who is to say?
If I am right, then less tourists but more premium ones, paying a lot more than now.
The Philippines is perhaps the wrong place to say this. But imagine you are pimping the Taj Mahal, some BS casino or working girl house. Keep the riff raff out and make the rest pay through the nose. Just drop the McDonalds / Jolibee model.
Actually prostitutes make my point perfectly. Most of them come from the slums but some can doll up, go easy on the yabba and charge a premium. It always amazes me I can get some tradesman to install a boiler, rewire a house, whatever and some slum lady wants as much simply to spread her legs and think of her trike toy boy as I pump my seed into her for short time. Though I get a laugh browsing the classier sites to see what kind of hobbies they have (art galleries, knocking back French wines), they ain't doing it on my dime. I have known slum hookers in both Thailand and the Philippines who hit it big. Some folk will pay a premium, no question. Those folk will have their vaccinated bums on seats no matter what the cost as soon as they can.
A good, thoughtful post.
[QUOTE=BrizLad;2517740]While I too think Nov-Dec 2021 might see easier international travel it's unlikely to be a pleasant tourist experience.
Flights are NOT returning to normal with a flick of a switch. It will take years for forward bookings (and confidence) to return to travel. Also have the small problem of the airline industry needing to retrain groundies and pilots. For every pilot they need 10+ simulator hours to get currencies. Simulators will be the limiting factor regardless of demand and so airlines will be forced to charge higher prices. Then there will be the uneven coverage of vaccine where return travel from Philippines will be uncomfortable as our home countries may still treat us a a threat.[/QUOTE]My son-in-law is a pilot for American Airlines. He got called back a couple of weeks ago from being furloughed in October. When they called him, he asked if this was due to the recent money given the airlines by congress. He was told that the airline was calling people back anyway, despite what congress was doing, because advance booking for spring and summer were showing a big surge in demand. This is just domestic air travel in the US.
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2517797]My son-in-law is a pilot for American Airlines. He got called back a couple of weeks ago from being furloughed in October. When they called him, he asked if this was due to the recent money given the airlines by congress. He was told that the airline was calling people back anyway, despite what congress was doing, because advance booking for spring and summer were showing a big surge in demand. This is just domestic air travel in the US.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Airlines don't react on the spot. They prepare with forecasting models. They're already preparing for domestic flights. And most likely, they'll be ramped up when international travel eases up. Airlines are itching to get more passengers. It'll be an interesting supply / demand scenario once international travel opens up again. Will there be the same number of travelers as before the pandemic? Will we have enough flights to meet demand? My guess is that airlines will want to maximize profits after suffering for so long. So they'll start ramping up at least a month or two before international flights open up again. Korean Air's already starting to do this.
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2517797]He was told that the airline was calling people back anyway, despite what congress was doing, because advance booking for spring and summer were showing a big surge in demand. This is just domestic air travel in the US.[/QUOTE]I doubt there is much truth in what they told him. The CEO just sent out a memo saying how low demand is. The truth is more like 1) they are placing hope in the vaccine to increase bookings. 2) they are just being able to put the 737 Max back in service and they do not want them sitting around. He does not by chance fly the 737 does he?
[QUOTE=BrizLad;2517740]While I too think Nov-Dec 2021 might see easier international travel it's unlikely to be a pleasant tourist experience.
Flights are NOT returning to normal with a flick of a switch. It will take years for forward bookings (and confidence) to return to travel. Also have the small problem of the airline industry needing to retrain groundies and pilots. For every pilot they need 10+ simulator hours to get currencies. Simulators will be the limiting factor regardless of demand and so airlines will be forced to charge higher prices. Then there will be the uneven coverage of vaccine where return travel from Philippines will be uncomfortable as our home countries may still treat us a a threat.[/QUOTE]Yes it will take some time for them to spin back up with all of the recalls and simulator time required, but if they are given a date, say Fall 2021 then they can start forecasting and knowing when to start calling back crews and getting them up to speed. Just like in my Navy days before a carrier deployed, we would spend days and weeks on end going around in circles of the coast to CA doing all of the required carrier quals for take off and landings for the aircrews and ground crews before we headed out west. Same thing for the airlines. I predict, look at the bookings and flights available starting after April and you can see that what Fauci says, will probably happen.
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2517797]My son-in-law is a pilot for American Airlines. He got called back a couple of weeks ago from being furloughed in October. When they called him, he asked if this was due to the recent money given the airlines by congress. He was told that the airline was calling people back anyway, despite what congress was doing, [/QUOTE]"But strangely, with the pandemic still limiting air travel to roughly half of what it was a year ago, many of these returning American Airlines employees don't have jobs to perform."
[URL]https://amp.star-telegram.com/news/business/aviation/american-airlines/article248312445.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2520086]"But strangely, with the pandemic still limiting air travel to roughly half of what it was a year ago, many of these returning American Airlines employees don't have jobs to perform."
[URL]https://amp.star-telegram.com/news/business/aviation/american-airlines/article248312445.html[/URL][/QUOTE]American cut it's flying by over 50%. Yet they kept about 80% of pilots on payroll. They have more than enough active pilots to cover any possible increase in flying this year. Recalled pilots should plan to be back on the street when CARES 2 runs out (March).
If AA planned to fly those recalled pilots (who will return as First Officers) they would put an immediate stop to training Captains to be First Officers, and start training some active First Officers to be Captains.
I pray things turn around quickly, but the worse days are still ahead of us.
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2520096]American cut it's flying by over 50%. Yet they kept about 80% of pilots on payroll. They have more than enough active pilots to cover any possible increase in flying this year. Recalled pilots should plan to be back on the street when CARES 2 runs out (March)..[/QUOTE]I am so happy I decided to avoid the Boeing 737 family, especially after today's repeat of another 737 crash in Indonesia.
Flying will be interesting when flights start ramping up with previously idle planes maned by idled pilots.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2520104]I am so happy I decided to avoid the Boeing 737 family, especially after today's repeat of another 737 crash in Indonesia.
Flying will be interesting when flights start ramping up with previously idle planes maned by idled pilots.[/QUOTE]The type of plane that went down within the last 24 hrs is different mechanically and technologically than the plagued "737 Max". The problem is that is part of the "737 family of planes "so all the general public will care about is that it was a "737". Boeing just needs to completely re brand its product line to disassociate from the name carrying the stigma.
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indonesia-crash-airplane-factbox/factbox-details-of-airplane-and-airline-in-indonesia-crash-idUSKBN29E0M2[/URL]
I'm hoping against hope I'll be able to get out to the Philippines at some point this year. Probably more realistically next year. I'd like base myself somewhere with the best chance of cultivating the non and semi pro girls. Not really big on the bar and club / streetwalker scene.
So, I figure I'm better of avoiding Manilla / Angeles / Subic Bay. I hear Cebu City mentioned a lot (and have read reports from there on semi / no pros.) Would anyone recommend somewhere else?
Realize it's bad form to ask for information without contributing. Have experience with mongering in the UK, Middle East, parts of Europe, so will be keeping an eye out and commenting when I can.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2520409]I'd like base myself somewhere with the best chance of cultivating the non and semi pro girls. Not really big on the bar and club / streetwalker scene..[/QUOTE]I've found that how you act is far more important than where you are. If you don't like bars and clubs then the answer is simple: don't go there. Assuming you are reasonably presentable and respectful it's not difficult to meet girls and get their numbers in shops, markets, banks etc. Of course there is also online.
All the places you listed have both hard core red light and quieter areas. Just pick those that you prefer. Provincial areas can be much more relaxed but do take some time to settle in and connect with local girls.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2520409]So, I figure I'm better of avoiding Manilla / Angeles / Subic Bay. I hear Cebu City mentioned a lot (and have read reports from there on semi / no pros.) Would anyone recommend somewhere else?...[/QUOTE]Best source of non pro's / regular girls is to make friends with local guys. They all have sisters.
Thanks Kabul, Goferring.
I've had a quick play on PinaLove for research, plenty of interest from the pros and non-pros (or, not as overt pros) as soon as I put up a picture. (Such a handsome guy like me, haha) I'm in my early 30's, white, in shape. But average looking.
Couldn't get anywhere with the non-obvious pros (didn't want to invest too much time, go to Whatsapp or be able to suggest a meet), but the obvious working girls were agreeing to literally anything and everything for less than the price of a pack of cigarettes in the UK.
Times must be pretty tough out there.
[QUOTE=Qeast;2520371]The type of plane that went down within the last 24 hrs is different mechanically and technologically than the plagued "737 Max". The problem is that is part of the "737 family of planes "so all the general public will care about is that it was a "737". Boeing just needs to completely re brand its product line to disassociate from the name carrying the stigma.
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indonesia-crash-airplane-factbox/factbox-details-of-airplane-and-airline-in-indonesia-crash-idUSKBN29E0M2[/URL][/QUOTE]The smartest thing for these airlines to do is to start recalling crews (both air and ground) and pay them a reduced fair if they have been laid off and get them back up in the air when possible to keep proficiency up, simply to avoid the possible legal actions that may come their way if they find out this accident was caused by lack of training / airtime for the crew. Better to blow money that way than to start paying out millions more in lawsuits, that is if one can sue like they do in the USA in some of these places. Better to show that they had some time at least flying in the air if only for practice than not having flown.
[QUOTE=Drbombay;2520862]The smartest thing for these airlines to do is to start recalling crews (both air and ground) and pay them a reduced fair if they have been laid off and get them back up in the air when possible to keep proficiency up, simply to avoid the possible legal actions that may come their way if they find out this accident was caused by lack of training / airtime for the crew.[/QUOTE]It does not really work like that. You already have to keep your qualifications up every so often or you can not fly anyway. Most can also be done on the ground in an approved simulator as well. It is not as hard as you think. If you know how to fly then you know how to fly. You only need to obtain a type rating to be able to fly a particular plane over 12,000 pounds because of certain intricacies. The computer mostly flies the plane. And checklists are used to know when to flip which switches.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2520891]It does not really work like that. You already have to keep your qualifications up every so often or you can not fly anyway. Most can also be done on the ground in an approved simulator as well. It is not as hard as you think. If you know how to fly then you know how to fly. You only need to obtain a type rating to be able to fly a particular plane over 12,000 pounds because of certain intricacies. The computer mostly flies the plane. And checklists are used to know when to flip which switches.[/QUOTE]They can maintain qualifications by watching YouTube videos. Before someone goes a rant, I am only kidding!
[QUOTE=JJanni;2520807]Couldn't get anywhere with the non-obvious pros....[/QUOTE]Just wait until you are physically in town. The pretty girls hear a million promises every day and know 99.99% is BS. The non pros actually have shit to do and don't need to waste time on every John that propositions them.
"I'm in Ayala. Let's meet for coffee after you finish work" has a much greater response rate than "I'm in Nebraska. Let's hook up if the pandemics stops, if the borders reopen, if I come to PI not LOS, if I call you and not one of the other 100 girls I know, if I get time off work, if I actually buy a ticket and show up".
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2520891]It does not really work like that. You already have to keep your qualifications up every so often or you can not fly anyway. Most can also be done on the ground in an approved simulator as well. It is not as hard as you think. If you know how to fly then you know how to fly. You only need to obtain a type rating to be able to fly a particular plane over 12,000 pounds because of certain intricacies. The computer mostly flies the plane. And checklists are used to know when to flip which switches.[/QUOTE]I assume you are not a commercial airline pilot or a pilot at all? Western airlines have a much higher bar than for someone just to throw a few switches. A pilot without a job is not going to afford simulator time to retain any ratings. As of now, every A380 qualified pilot is un-current on type. It will cost the same to make them current again if they haven't flown for 3,6,18 months, so no need to retain currency. The airlines will be planning this as a start-up cost for bring aircraft and crew back online.
To get this back on topic. I do know there was a Qatar captain that used to jet in / out of Ph and maintain a very pretty girl. She was a former AC freelancer whom he took out of the market. She would post pics pf herself swanning around the globe in business class and major cities. Good for her as a 21 year old. I deleted her from my fb friends as I couldn't compete with that.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2520927]Just wait until you are physically in town. The pretty girls hear a million promises every day and know 99.99% is BS. The non pros actually have shit to do and don't need to waste time on every John that propositions them.
"I'm in Ayala. Let's meet for coffee after you finish work" has a much greater response rate than "I'm in Nebraska. Let's hook up if the pandemics stops, if the borders reopen, if I come to PI not LOS, if I call you and not one of the other 100 girls I know, if I get time off work, if I actually buy a ticket and show up".
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I did manage to set my profile showing that I was in Cebu, but they might have been able to see around that. I suspect it's as you say. They grew suspicious after the chitchat back and forth, refusal to give WhatsApp (citing privacy issues) and me not suggesting meeting for a coffee. More than half immediately stopped talking when I wouldn't give them Whatsapp, some of the obvious pros too.
From reading the forum, it would seem the approach with the true non-pros is meeting for a drink close to your accommodation, then moving it there with no discussion of money unless they bring it up. (I have no intention of not 'paying for their taxi' with the going rate, if things go well and they don't ask, which I've read happens or indeed, leading them to believe it's anything more than a STR) Similar strategy as I've used on [URL]seeking.com[/URL] girls in the UK. Don't treat them like working girls, but don't bullshit.
I was more just testing the waters / torturing myself / keeping myself entertained in quarantine. As you say, not worth pursuing until I'm on the ground. Profile was only live for a day or two.
As soon as possible, I'll be there. A place where I can spend the day flirting and trying to get nubile 19 year olds in the sack. And if all else fails, call a seasoned bargirl to my room at 2 am to cum up her arse for a tenner. Sounds like heaven. Fantasy that I'm sure doesn't match the reality exactly. But stuck where I am, nothing else to entertain.
Again, cheers for your help. I'll keep RTFF.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2520927]Just wait until you are physically in town. The pretty girls hear a million promises every day and know 99.99% is BS. The non pros actually have shit to do and don't need to waste time on every John that propositions them.
"I'm in Ayala. Let's meet for coffee after you finish work" has a much greater response rate than "I'm in Nebraska. Let's hook up if the pandemics stops, if the borders reopen, if I come to PI not LOS, if I call you and not one of the other 100 girls I know, if I get time off work, if I actually buy a ticket and show up".
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]That's funny right there, I don't care you you are, that there is funny.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2520964]That's funny right there, I don't care you you are, that there is funny.[/QUOTE]Larry the cable guy?
[QUOTE=JJanni;2520938]More than half immediately stopped talking when I wouldn't give them Whatsapp, some of the obvious pros too....
From reading the forum, it would seem the approach with the true non-pros is meeting for a drink close to your accommodation, then moving it there with no discussion of money unless they bring it up....
As soon as possible, I'll be there. A place where I can spend the day flirting and trying to get nubile 19 year olds in the sack. And if all else fails, call a seasoned bargirl to my room at 2 am to cum up her arse for a tenner. Sounds like heaven....
Again, cheers for your help. I'll keep RTFF.[/QUOTE]You're on the right track. Just got a few things ass backwards.
You need a WhatsApp regardless of if you are chatting from home or in country. Numerous reasons but the biggie is that the pretty girls get litterally '000's of messages per day on the apps. That's no exaggeration. Without WhatsApp your chat string will be lost in the masses and there is no way you will be remembered for the 12 months it will take you to actually arrive. If your concerned about messages being caught out back home then you have a second phone for play, right?
For non pros expect a platonic first date possibly with a chaperone friend tagging along. No need for a Michelin Star restaurant but take her to a nearby cafe or eatery and play nice. If she orders food for 20 and wants to take the leftovers home, dump her and move to another: she was wasting your time. Don't be surprised if a good girl refuses payment or only wants true taxi fare of a couple of hundred. Again, play along and pay those that are looking for it but don't insist on making the freebies into hookers. Chocolates or a small gift from home is always welcome.
Get the sure thing hooker first then do the flirting and chatting. This will remove the look of desperation every new arrival has and the girls will be more relaxed.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2521132]You're on the right track. Just got a few things ass backwards.
You need a WhatsApp regardless of if you are chatting from home or in country. Numerous reasons but the biggie is that the pretty girls get litterally '000's of messages per day on the apps. That's no exaggeration. Without WhatsApp your chat string will be lost in the masses and there is no way you will be remembered for the 12 months it will take you to actually arrive. If your concerned about messages being caught out back home then you have a second phone for play, right?
For non pros expect a platonic first date possibly with a chaperone friend tagging along. No need for a Michelin Star restaurant but take her to a nearby cafe or eatery and play nice. If she orders food for 20 and wants to take the leftovers home, dump her and move to another: she was wasting your time. Don't be surprised if a good girl refuses payment or only wants true taxi fare of a couple of hundred. Again, play along and pay those that are looking for it but don't insist on making the freebies into hookers. Chocolates or a small gift from home is always welcome.
Get the sure thing hooker first then do the flirting and chatting. This will remove the look of desperation every new arrival has and the girls will be more relaxed.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]More great advice, cheers. I removed myself from the apps / sites as dreaming what could be is far too painful! I formed the conclusion before even discovering this forum that trying to set anything up too far in advance is a waste of time. I'll more than likely not even sign up again until I'm sat in a PI hotel room.
Re the WhatsApp. My usual approach is to take conversations there as a lot of sites ban you if they detect stuff such as 'How much to cum in your tight little pussy?' But as you said, not an issue on Pinalove. Didn't want to go to WhatsApp as my number would have given the game away I was playing. In country already.
I wanted to confirm.
A: How easy it would be to get the kind of 'good girl' I'm interested in to meet me for 'coffee' and the implication of maybe more, without having to lie and say I'm looking for a wife / LTR. All good on that front.
And.
B: How much hard work / advance communication to get a pro. When I do get the urge to go down that route, it happens on a whim. I've been frustrated on trips to other places and in the UK how difficult it is to satisfy an urge for a properly filthy **** in the next hour at 5 pm in the evening, let alone at 1 am. I had more than a couple pros agreeing, at 1/2 am (PI time), to jump in a Grab I'd send them (tip I picked up reading here) and come to my hotel room right now, BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA and other perversions, short time, for 1000/1500 pesos. Whether it would have come of, I don't know. I suspect at least one would have. When I'm in that kind of mood, I don't want a particular girl (though obviously I'd have a preference), I just want to dump my load into the snatch of whatever girl I can get to me quickest. Seems good on that front.
For work reasons, I'm high priority for vaccination. So I'm holding out hope of a 'vaccine passport' opening up travel somewhat in the latter half of 2021. Or PCR testing and self-isolation. I'm in the fortune position that 10/14 days either side of a two / three month trip would be an annoyance, not a deal breaker. I suspect as you say though, a 12 month timeline is more realistic.
I shall continue my hunt for the Filipinas of the Middle-East.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2520891]It does not really work like that. You already have to keep your qualifications up every so often or you can not fly anyway. Most can also be done on the ground in an approved simulator as well. It is not as hard as you think. If you know how to fly then you know how to fly. You only need to obtain a type rating to be able to fly a particular plane over 12,000 pounds because of certain intricacies. The computer mostly flies the plane. And checklists are used to know when to flip which switches.[/QUOTE]If being a pilot was this easy, pilots would not be paid as much. If you know how to fly, than you know how to fly, but proficiency is affected by as little as one to two weeks off. You need a type rating for planes heavier that 12,500 pounds because you are flying a heavy cruise missile. You do the actions on a checklist before running the checklist; the checklist ensures you did everything. Hence the word "check" in checklist. There is much more to being a pilot than keeping the aircraft straight and level. That's what autopilots are for.
The 737-500 in this crash had very basic automation. I do not know if their pilots are given as much training as western pilots in upset recovery and stall recovery.
Yes, pretty much all training is done in the simulator nowadays. Taking a plane up for training and proficiency is too expensive. But in times like these, there is a huge training backlog due to limited simulator availability.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2521132]You're on the right track. Just got a few things ass backwards.
You need a WhatsApp regardless of if you are chatting from home or in country. Numerous reasons but the biggie is that the pretty girls get litterally '000's of messages per day on the apps. That's no exaggeration. Without WhatsApp your chat string will be lost in the masses and there is no way you will be remembered for the 12 months it will take you to actually arrive. If your concerned about messages being caught out back home then you have a second phone for play, right?
[/QUOTE]One key aspect of WhatsApp is if you get a number for an app like Hushed or you are in the USA and get a Google Voice number you can use that to set as your WA number vice your cell phone number. This is very important if you want to maintain some distance between home and fun. Better to get an Internet number with a different area code than your normal phone number to keep them off. Trust me, they will find a way once they have your regular number in hand to reach out to you.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2520921]They can maintain qualifications by watching YouTube videos. Before someone goes a rant, I am only kidding![/QUOTE]Watching video was the step for a Boeing 737 pilot to fly the 737 Max.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2521151]
I wanted to confirm.
A: How easy it would be to get the kind of 'good girl' I'm interested in to meet me for 'coffee' and the implication of maybe more, without having to lie and say I'm looking for a wife / LTR. All good on that front.
And.
B: How much hard work / advance communication to get a pro. When I do get the urge to go down that route, it happens on a whim....[/QUOTE]Good girls will be quite happy to meet for a coffee or similar. Converting that to a couple of hours of fun back in your hotel varies. Some will follow you back straight after the meal. Others will need a second date. One thing that is universal is that pinas are notorious for late- or no-shows. The easiest way to get around this is not to sit and wait for them to arrive. It could be hours. Just go about your normal day and tell them to message you when they have arrived. Then you can just go down and join them. Staying walking distance to a Mall or common meeting area helps here.
Pros take no work. I can have a girl in a taxi heading my way within 30 minutes of logging on. Especially after 10 pm. Just look for the telltales in her profile: suggestive photos, looking for guys 18 to 99 etc and just be forthright immediately upon chatting with her. In this situation I often ask aggressively sexual questions as it separates those on the game from the part timers. Good girls won't even reply, even in disgust. ANY reply, even pretend shock, will be from someone who will head over.
If you are concerned about traceable numbers, just get a cheap unlocked phone and buy a local sim at the airport. Dirt cheap and a local number shows the girls that you are allready in country.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=BrizLad;2520937]I assume you are not a commercial airline pilot or a pilot at all? [/QUOTE]A lot of assumptions around here.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2521151]Re the WhatsApp. My usual approach is to take conversations there as a lot of sites ban you if they detect stuff such as 'How much to cum in your tight little pussy?' But as you said, not an issue on Pinalove. Didn't want to go to WhatsApp as my number would have given the game away I was playing. In country already.[/QUOTE]My Whatsapp hack is to download the Whatsapp Business app on my phone. I use a burner number on the WA Business app which I can freely give to the girls.
Both Whatsapp and Whatsapp Business will co-exist on the same phone.
The questions you are asking girls are irrelevant at the moment. A price on offer for a service that cannot be delivered is of no value. If you are going to be chatting girls now, use the time to exclude the easy ones and deepen your search and conversation skills.
In just a few days before your visit you can easily collect your paid dates. Use this wilderness time for cracking some new territory.
[QUOTE=BrizLad;2521659]My Whatsapp hack is to download the Whatsapp Business app on my phone. [/QUOTE]What's the additional functionality or benefits of WA Business? The website is just full of buzzwords and jargon rather than a list of features. What are the real world advantages?
Thanks. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2521833]What's the additional functionality or benefits of WA Business? The website is just full of buzzwords and jargon rather than a list of features. What are the real world advantages?
Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]Good question.
On my legit phone I have my legit number on Whatsapp and my 'burner' number of WA Business app. Functionality wise they are identical function for me. Means I don't need to access my physical burner phone once I have registered the number to WA Business app.
[QUOTE=BrizLad;2522000]Good question.
On my legit phone I have my legit number on Whatsapp and my 'burner' number of WA Business app. Functionality wise they are identical function for me. Means I don't need to access my physical burner phone once I have registered the number to WA Business app.[/QUOTE]I'm way too stupid for that. I can guarantee that there will be a time when I would have the wrong screen open at the wrong time.
Disaterous consequences to save $100. Separation is the whole intent of having a second phone and number.
Thanks. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2522056]I'm way too stupid for that. I can guarantee that there will be a time when I would have the wrong screen open at the wrong time.
Disaterous consequences to save $100. Separation is the whole intent of having a second phone and number.
Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]I had that problem when I had a burner number on a dual SIM phone. Fine for receiving calls on either number, but too many times I would make calls without switching over. Quickly went back to having two phones, but the burner has permanent call forwarding to my normal phone.
[QUOTE=BrizLad;2522000]Good question.
On my legit phone I have my legit number on Whatsapp and my 'burner' number of WA Business app. Functionality wise they are identical function for me. Means I don't need to access my physical burner phone once I have registered the number to WA Business app.[/QUOTE]Hushed is also great when you're trying to negotiate a girl's rates down / get her to do something not advertised 'BBFSCIP.'
In the UK recently, I pushed my luck a little too far with a girl I was desperate to see. 19 year old, pretty as fuck brunette spinner. She got pissed off and blocked me when I tried to push the price too low.
Three days later, knowing her price and that she'd do it, I got a different Hushed number and approached with a different patter / texting language. An hour late, I was cumming inside her.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2522110]I had that problem when I had a burner number on a dual SIM phone. Fine for receiving calls on either number, but too many times I would make calls without switching over. Quickly went back to having two phones, but the burner has permanent call forwarding to my normal phone.[/QUOTE]The advantage of using WA on a dual sim or with a number liked Hushed is once you register the number on WA, you can turn off the sim and still use WA via wifi or data. I actually had that issue once when I had a US prepaid sim in a phone I had bought and used it for WA and then I got another phone and realized I couldn't use that same number again since it was no longer active. But I had been using the app with no problems with it turned off, just couldn't reload.
[QUOTE=Drbombay;2522240]The advantage of using WA on a dual sim or with a number liked Hushed is once you register the number on WA, you can turn off the sim and still use WA via wifi or data. I actually had that issue once when I had a US prepaid sim in a phone I had bought and used it for WA and then I got another phone and realized I couldn't use that same number again since it was no longer active. But I had been using the app with no problems with it turned off, just couldn't reload.[/QUOTE]Just don't try to do a reinstall from backups as you won't have access to the original number to receive the unlock key.
Whoosh. All old messages and images will be lost.
Don't ask me how I found that out.
G.
Has any monger been to Iligan City in northern Mindanao? It's 30 km north of Marawi, which is home to ISIL and Abu Sayyaf terrorist groups. There is no airport at Iligan. Closest airport is at CDO, then you need to get a taxi and drive the coastal route westward to Iligan, about 1 hour away.
The reason I ask is that that there's a nice looking chick in Iligan who wants to marry me. Pretty face, slim body, charming personality and actually has a job! Just wondering if it's worth the risk getting kidnapped by Muslim terrorists just to tap that cute ass?
I could ask her to come to CDO which might be safer for me and has much better hotels, but it seems I need to pass the dreaded Tita interview first.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2522634]Has any monger been to Iligan City in northern Mindanao? It's 30 km north of Marawi, which is home to ISIL and Abu Sayyaf terrorist groups. There is no airport at Iligan. Closest airport is at CDO, then you need to get a taxi and drive the coastal route westward to Iligan, about 1 hour away.
The reason I ask is that that there's a nice looking chick in Iligan who wants to marry me. Pretty face, slim body, charming personality and actually has a job! Just wondering if it's worth the risk getting kidnapped by Muslim terrorists just to tap that cute ass?
I could ask her to come to CDO which might be safer for me and has much better hotels, but it seems I need to pass the dreaded Tita interview first.[/QUOTE]Given you current location this is somewhat of a hypothetical as you can't travel anywhere (and if you could it is unlikely you could back in a hurry even if you wanted to), Aussies are currently barred from the Philippines and by the time you get there she will be older, had a few pinoys and tita maybe 6 ft under.
You can ask whatever you like but no chance you seeing her and they won't hang around if you won't be there soon.
As for Illigan. Why go to a place you say / know is a possible ISIL hot spot?