Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;2596541]The charge structure is probably the same at all the prime clubs in Sampa (e. g. Cafe Foto). If the girl gets by:

6 pm: The entrance fee is waived.

11 pm: Same fee as the male customer pays.

After 6 pm- Before 11 pm: Charge is prorated.[/QUOTE]Better then go early so that the girls keep more of the money. I go early anyway as I don't like sloppy seconds. Downside is: less girls early, but in Brasil the quality is such 15 girls are enough for me to desperately want to fuck 2 or 3 of them.

[QUOTE=RMundi000;2596447]Out of curiosity, what do they charge the girls to get in?[/QUOTE]I was told by a Scandallo garrota that the club charges a fee for the first night, then a smaller or even no fee if they show up for following consecutive nights. If they miss a night they have to pay the higher entrance again. That's why they have such a good client / hooker ratio.

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2596679]I was told by a Scandallo garrota that the club charges a fee for the first night, then a smaller or even no fee if they show up for following consecutive nights. If they miss a night they have to pay the higher entrance again. That's why they have such a good client / hooker ratio.[/QUOTE]I think this makes sense because the club needs the girls.

So I made it finally, I'm one of those that can't sleep for shit in the plane, so I was half awake when I stepped out of the terminal to catch my Uber to the hotel.

One interesting comment though, no one asked me for proof of negative COVID results, not in the US during check-in or boarding, and definitely not in SP. I asked a gate agent in the US and she said "oh no we don't do that anymore" Idk what to make of that.

Anyways, so I decide to pick Uber Black to speed up the pick up cause I was dog tired, and what do you know? The driver decides to take a long route to the hotel, I'm sure he tacked an additional 50-100 reals, it's not a lot in US money, but the principality that hurts. Rude awakening for me, it's fine though, it reminds me the girls will try to squeeze more money out of me and I need to wake up fast.

Got checked in early at 9:30 am, and The Renaissance gave me my room early at no charge, or so they say, we'll see. Went to the Droguera and got some vitamin c, and other necessities. It's so easy to get your vitamins here! Got some funds for playtime too. I have a feeling I'll need more soon though, my wallet is not happy.

I went to Prime earlier, no one was waiting and I was presented with 3 girls, a young spinner with a solid body by the name of Lua, another spinner named Erika, and a real friendly one I think her name was Jade. I almost went with Jade, I know she was going to be a solid GFE, I could feel it, but Lua's young looks won so I picked her.

Lua gave me a good BBBJ, had a delicious tasting pussy and a great ass I squeezed hard while doing 69, I couldn't stop eating it. Man I miss talking dirty and having the girl follow, I frigging need to learn Porto, it definitely makes a difference. Lua only gave light kisses, and after fucking her from behind for awhile she complained a bit, I chilled a little but then restarted and she took it until I finally blew my load I held back for 14 days just to unload in Brazil! I got the feeling she wasn't up for seconds, she looked tired. Thankfully, I wasn't interested either, because while she was showering I finished setting up an online girl to come to my hotel room in a couple of hours, I need to save my bullets.

Later on I plan on hitting Scandallo, and tomorrow morning I got another online girl scheduled, then plan to hit CLnicas again. My first impression of SP is positive, I really need to learn Porto, I blend in pretty good, I'm from the US but I'm not White, so I've noticed people assume I know Porto and I hate having to stop them.

It's frigging hot BTW, and Uber guys don't use Air conditioning, not sure if some of the cars don't come with it or they are trying to save gas. Anyhow, rides are like $4-5 around town LOL.

I'm having fun so far, I'm big part thanks to all reports posted here!

EB.

Hey, I think I will travel my first time in the near future to Brazil. And the first days for exploring sao paulo.

Sorry for the stupid question but nowadays every day the situation is so much different everywhere in the world (Corona). If I read correctly then there are in the moment no restrictions in the country and for going to Brazil is just a english PCR-Test necessary, right?

But how is the situation if I want to fly from sao paulo to rio and then from rio back to my home country (except restrictions of my home country). Is a test or anything else necessary for the flight between sao paulo and rio?

Thanks for the help.

Isn't the price preset? I've used it in Costa Rica and Mexico and the price is the price regardless of how they get to the destination.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2597605]So I made it finally, I'm one of those that can't sleep for shit in the plane, so I was half awake when I stepped out of the terminal to catch my Uber to the hotel.

One interesting comment though, no one asked me for proof of negative COVID results, not in the US during check-in or boarding, and definitely not in SP. I asked a gate agent in the US and she said "oh no we don't do that anymore" Idk what to make of that.

Anyways, so I decide to pick Uber Black to speed up the pick up cause I was dog tired, and what do you know? The driver decides to take a long route to the hotel, I'm sure he tacked an additional 50-100 reals, it's not a lot in US money, but the principality that hurts. Rude awakening for me, it's fine though, it reminds me the girls will try to squeeze more money out of me and I need to wake up fast.

Got checked in early at 9:30 am, and The Renaissance gave me my room early at no charge, or so they say, we'll see. Went to the Droguera and got some vitamin c, and other necessities. It's so easy to get your vitamins here! Got some funds for playtime too. I have a feeling I'll need more soon though, my wallet is not happy..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Markon;2597652]Isn't the price preset? I've used it in Costa Rica and Mexico and the price is the price regardless of how they get to the destination.[/QUOTE]I've seen that in Brazil couple of times, the rate changes, if they change the route. Most Uber drivers will ask you, if they can follow the route outlined in the GPS, in that case, the amount does not change. But, if Sampa is congested and he ask you, if he can change the route, then the final amount will differ from the original quote. This only happens, if the amount of kms travelled changes in a material way vs the original route.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2597605]So I made it finally, I'm one of those that can't sleep for shit in the plane, so I was half awake when I stepped out of the terminal to catch my Uber to the hotel.

Anyways, so I decide to pick Uber Black to speed up the pick up cause I was dog tired, and what do you know? The driver decides to take a long route to the hotel, I'm sure he tacked an additional 50-100 reals, it's not a lot in US money, but the principality that hurts. Rude awakening for me, it's fine though, it reminds me the girls will try to squeeze more money out of me and I need to wake up fast.

Got checked in early at 9:30 am, and The Renaissance gave me my room early at no charge, or so they say, we'll see. [/QUOTE]I found Brazilian especially in SP to be very honest. Looks like you arrive during the morning rush hour when traffic in central downtown SP is worst than NYC. Normally a 30 min ride would end up being being 90 minutes or more from GRU. Once I also arrived in the middle morning rush, and Uber uses google maps directed the car all the way around the city in a big circle to avoid traffic.

In my experience even P2 P girls in Brazil are not money gougers. Most prices are fixed especially in the clinics, prives and online. Fees are only negotiated in scandallo and other boates, but once the price is agreed upon before the session, I never had a girl up sell me during the session for standard GFE, even for CIM or anal! I also rarely feel there is gringo tax. Maybe in scandallo but I feel everybody overpays there even the locals.

[QUOTE=Dodochen;2597645]Hey, I think I will travel my first time in the near future to Brazil. And the first days for exploring sao paulo.

Sorry for the stupid question but nowadays every day the situation is so much different everywhere in the world (Corona). If I read correctly then there are in the moment no restrictions in the country and for going to Brazil is just a english PCR-Test necessary, right?

But how is the situation if I want to fly from sao paulo to rio and then from rio back to my home country (except restrictions of my home country). Is a test or anything else necessary for the flight between sao paulo and rio?

Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]For domestic flights, no test is required.

I'm slated to be in SP from Sept 9-17th. My friend bailed because of the long flight and covid cases. He's going to Costa Rica instead (some members have had positive experiences but it's no Brazil) so if anyone wants to meet up PM me. Looking for some good steak, burger, pizza and chicken restaurants so any recommendations welcomed!

I've been reading the forum since I left in January and looks like things have been changing up since I left. Here's some info and advice I recently just got.

It looks like prices are indeed going up. Girls in Scandallo charging 800 BRL thing is the standard norm at the moment (500 being the normal at the beginning of 2021) I recently was talking to a scandallo girl I met back in January and she told me that she is charging minimum 800 BRL for 1 HR. I got her for 500 BRL before and the highest I hit was 700 BRL. She was also trying to charge me 2000 BRL each for 4 HR with her and her friend. Then she changed it to 2000 each pernoite. Then I got her to 500 for 1 HR for each. Then she asked if she could get more if she just came alone. Then more money for both of them for 1 HR instead of the agreed 500 each. What a mess. She also asked if I can send a PIX payment ahead of time. This just verifies two things to me.

1. The SP girls, more specifically, the Scandallo girls are getting desperate and are upcharging more from the other intel from posters and my recent experience. This girl wanted 800 for a 1 HR session outside the club instead of a lower reasonable price since she doesn't have wait around for a guy to pick her and pay the club as well. The reason you get a scandallo girls number is so you can get a lower rate than the 800 in the club but looks like things could be changing. Could be just this girl but looks like a trend is taking precedent here. It also tells me that most of these girls aren't getting their 800 for 1 HR because they are trying to do pernoites for a "reasonable" rate (800 for 1 HR vs 2000 for a pernoite) by doing this it seems like you're getting a good pernoite rate but really it's just numbers that don't have any real weight.

Now what this also means is everybody has to bring their A game to the table when negotiating. I did get this girl down from 800 to 500 but it was all thru text so she pulled out at the last second but if we were at the club she would have taken it instead of nothing. So even tho the 800 is what they are now looking for it just means you have to really put your cards on the table and be stern to get the usual 500. Of course this varies from girl to girl as some girls are in more demand than others and therefore charge more. Scandallo new rates if true is 400 BRL (for entry) + 800 BRL (Girl 1 HR) + 230 BRL (Room for 1 HR) it comes out to 1430 BRL in total for 1 HR with 1 Girl in the standard room but really its 1500 BRL for your uber and maybe a drink for the girl. Back in January everything was 1100 BRL for the exact same.

I bring up prices because I think there is a misinformed notion that if you pay more (pay more than the usual 500-700, take a girl out from the club, do a pernoite) than you get better service. From all my intel and data gathering that seems to be quite the opposite in more cases than it should. From rushed and cold pernoites to girls not doing requested services. Paying more doesn't guarantee you a great time and could lead a girl to think she can dupe you even further if you agreed to her high prices.

I also think some guys think if they negotiate a girl's price down than the girl won't be happy and she will give you terrible service. That I've rarely heard (most I've read were photoacompanhantes girls which should be avoided at all cost) and personally whenever I did get a lower price it was good service.

You should always do your due diligence and talk to the girls and really try to spot any red flags in their body language / word choices / attitude. I tend to go for the GND types so I personally haven't had much issue with this but for the guys who like the model looking types it's a more than just a heed of cautious.

I just want to make something really clear before I go any further. YOU CAN SPEND YOUR OWN MONEY HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT.

I personally like scandallo as many posters before me (it's lived up to it's legendary status many times over) but it has dramatically widen the gap to the clinicals which have also been proven very reliable and with a good mixture of girls at more or less the same 250 BRL. To put in that in context you could visit 6 clinical girls for the price of one scandallo girl at this point with the current rates.

Scandallo main advantage is that you don't have to walk around moema and hit up 5 different clinicas to find a girl you like. You can just sit in a nice patio / club / restaurant and watch the multiple girls engulf you and make your decision in luxury and peace.

Some food for thought.

2. Cariocas are much warmer than the Paulistas.

From all the readings and personal experience the cariocas feel like, as many posters have stated, ambassadors to Brazil. They'll show you around rio and satisfy all your needs at sometimes ridiculous low prices. It's like having a hot tour guide that you can bang.

The rio girls I've been in contact with have been traveling with rich guys to dubai and the like and yet they still make time to keep in touch and are excited for my arrival and charge 300 BRL to spend the day together and bang multiple times when they were getting 10 x that much not too long ago.

Rio really has a warmth to not only it's climate but it's people as well. Everyone just seems to being enjoying their lives and always trying to make the day end with pleasure, whether that's enjoying the nature, eating, fucking or all three.

A rush for life and all it's desires.

There is a reason many frequent posters are currently residing in rio.

I would suggest anyone to visit both cities of course but if you must do both start with SP and end with Rio.

To me SP feels like a girl who is a hot model that you can fuck for the right price but as soon as you leave so does her interest in you.

Rio feels like a girl who is cute and joyful that wants to share her lust for life with you.

I can't comment on Independent girls (prices and attitudes) as they vary widely of course but if anyone has any current experiences with their pricing, do share!

I just want to reiterate if you want to bang a girl and she charges higher than the average price and you got the capital do it.

Go for it.

Don't let anyone shame you for spending your own money. Money is supposed to be relinquished but memories / experiences live on with you. Just be aware of your options and don't be duped. We all hate to see that here. Truly.

Hope this helps any newbies and frequent posters.

I'll be posting reports and updates as soon as I get my boots on the ground.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2597605]The driver decides to take a long route to the hotel, I'm sure he tacked an additional 50-100 reals, it's not a lot in US money, but the principality that hurts. Rude awakening for me, it's fine though, it reminds me the girls will try to squeeze more money out of me and I need to wake up fast.

Lua gave me a good BBBJ, had a delicious tasting pussy and a great ass I squeezed hard while doing 69, I couldn't stop eating it. Man I miss talking dirty and having the girl follow, I frigging need to learn Porto, it definitely makes a difference. Lua only gave light kisses, and after fucking her from behind for awhile she complained a bit, I chilled a little but then restarted and she took it until I finally blew my load I held back for 14 days just to unload in Brazil! I got the feeling she wasn't up for seconds, she looked tired. Thankfully, I wasn't interested either, because while she was showering I finished setting up an online girl to come to my hotel room in a couple of hours, I need to save my bullets.

I blend in pretty good, I'm from the US but I'm not White, so I've noticed people assume I know Porto and I hate having to stop them.

I'm having fun so far, I'm big part thanks to all reports posted here!

EB.[/QUOTE]Nice report! I loved every moment I was in SP. I heard great things about Lua when I was there. Unfortunately, our schedules never synced and I never had a chance to sample her. Hopefully, on my next visit. Keep the reports coming!

As for getting gouged by the Uber driver, you should see a price estimate when you book a ride. There should be no way for the driver to charge you R50-R100 extra. You'll get a notification asking if you approve of a route change. I've never had issues with Uber drivers once I was in their car. I did have issues with Uber drivers who'd accept but cancel after several minutes. Sometimes, they'd be driving in the opposite direction (farther away from me), seemingly waiting for me to cancel the ride. I was never charged when I canceled these rides.

Have fun! Seems like Brazil is the best place on Earth for mongers right now.

[QUOTE=Dodochen;2597645]Hey, I think I will travel my first time in the near future to Brazil. And the first days for exploring sao paulo.

Sorry for the stupid question but nowadays every day the situation is so much different everywhere in the world (Corona). If I read correctly then there are in the moment no restrictions in the country and for going to Brazil is just a english PCR-Test necessary, right?

But how is the situation if I want to fly from sao paulo to rio and then from rio back to my home country (except restrictions of my home country). Is a test or anything else necessary for the flight between sao paulo and rio?[/QUOTE]There are no tests required between SP and Rio. Back when I visited Brazil, they required a negative antigen test. When I was returning, a PCR test was necessary. Not sure about now. Sounds like restrictions have eased a bit.

Went through Sao Paulo in July overall great experience. Got some heat here for daring to ask if there are strip clubs in SP. So went to go investigate myself, mainly going to keep the report to this since all other areas are thoroughly covered by others.

Time: Went to both late night on a Monday and this was during the cold front in SP. So really not the condition for stripping.

Zeus Night Club:

I went in around 9 pm there was a small cover charge of 50, got you 2 or 3 beers. There was no stripping going on at the time and most of the girls were dressed in pretty bulky clothes because it was so cold. It was a bit silly and odd environment all things considered, but no one to blame there it was just really cold during that time. There were about 5-7 girls there you can pick any and chat with them. The girls are very friendly will sit with you and chat not very pushy or demanding you by them drinks (probably because not many people there). After a bit of talking to a girl I inquired about the prices 400 for 1 hour. I think I got gringo taxed a bit here with the initial pitch because she was obviously open to negotiations, could have probably got it down to 300. All in all strip clubs usually do charge more than clinicas or massage parlors since it's a much larger operation and the house has to take a good bit.

Kilt Night Club:

This place is a lot bigger went there around midnight no one there besides two girls. This place was dead although it was big enough to support a pretty large capacity. One of them spoke very good English so I spent some time here just chatting with her and bought her a drink. Was able to kind of get some answers from her on the strip club seen. Basically I choose the worst time to go there as it was a Monday, it's cold as fuck and they have to operate somewhat covertly since covid restrictions. She said that the place use to be very popular pre-covid especially on the weekends with shows happening hourly and the club being open late into the night. I got her number and headed back to my hotel. This place also had a short time hotel connected directly to it.

Verdict:

I was there during a really bad time of the month and week. But the concept is same as all others strip clubs in Central / South America I've been to. You watch the girls dance / strip, pick out one you like, call her over and chat / drink with her for a little bit. Discuss a price for what service and then go with her to the short time hotel connected to the club. If you have nothing to do late night on a Friday / Saturday after most of the clinicas have closed and want to try something different probably won't be bad places to visit. Also when things are more back to normal and official open these places will probably see an increase in traffic.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2597741]I bring up prices because I think there is a misinformed notion that if you pay more (pay more than the usual 500-700, take a girl out from the club, do a pernoite) than you get better service. From all my intel and data gathering that seems to be quite the opposite in more cases than it should. From rushed and cold pernoites to girls not doing requested services. Paying more doesn't guarantee you a great time and could lead a girl to think she can dupe you even further if you agreed to her high prices.[/QUOTE]The girls know when they are under the Scandallo roof that they are representing the club. I'm sure management talks with specific girls if there is hints of poor service.

You take them home or meet up with them later they might feel they are essentially free agents. A mercenary attitude can develop back at your place especially if they know you will only be around a few days. Pissing off a local Scandallo regular could be very bad for business for the girl.

I'll be on the ground in November and update as well!

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2597866]The girls know when they are under the Scandallo roof that they are representing the club. I'm sure management talks with specific girls if there is hints of poor service.

You take them home or meet up with them later they might feel they are essentially free agents. A mercenary attitude can develop back at your place especially if they know you will only be around a few days. Pissing off a local Scandallo regular could be very bad for business for the girl.[/QUOTE]This kind of backs up what I have been saying. I always do a Boate (bordello) girl in-house the 1st time I meet her and if I like the girl and I want to see her again on the outside I just get her WhatsApp.

A night at Scandallo is meant to be a good time start to finish. So, take your time and don't rush through any of it. Spend a little money, buy a girl a drink or several girls a drink, have fun. The hunt is part of the entertainment. Thus, there is very little chance of having a bad encounter in Scandallo as long as you have a good attitude and make the right moves as you go along. So, even before choosing a girl and going up to a room or taking her out of the club, it is critically important to spend some time with her and get acquainted. If a girl cannot pass the audition, it is very unlikely things are going to get better once you are alone with her in either a Scandallo private room or back at your hotel. This is basic stuff. Mongering 101.

I can't wait until I go back in late September.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2597741]I bring up prices because I think there is a misinformed notion that if you pay more (pay more than the usual 500-700, take a girl out from the club, do a pernoite) than you get better service. From all my intel and data gathering that seems to be quite the opposite in more cases than it should. From rushed and cold pernoites to girls not doing requested services. Paying more doesn't guarantee you a great time and could lead a girl to think she can dupe you even further if you agreed to her high prices.
[/QUOTE]Salaam Signor Bearsi.

Absolutely. Mongers with deep pockets love to think service level is proportional to price. In fact the correlation is often inverse.

You say you prefer Rio, but it doesn't have the clinicas that SP does. Search a bit and it's not BRL 250 but BRL 150. I have had women at Scandallo level for that. There are some high-class women who will just spend a weekend at a clinica, fuck 10 guys and then choose a sugar daddy. We think we are picking them but actually they are picking us.

But I miss the days earlier this year when I had Sao Paulo all to myself. I felt just like Will Smith in [I]I am Legend[/I] -- delighted, I could do whatever I liked.

So I hit Scandallo up yesterday. With my luck it was the night of their live music section reopening and they had some local band that everyone seems to like, meaning the entrance fee was up to 600.00 Reals with 200.00 consumable.

At this point I bit the bullet, in the end I've been to expensive clubs in LA before and I was already there. Upon entering I was overwhelmed by the sheer amount of girls. I entered around 9:30, many more girls were showing up and I estimate they had north of 500 around midnight. The club itself is fine, quite honestly I was a little underwhelmed, compared to some clubs in Vegas and LA is about the same, I guess I expected more.

Now, girl wise, once the initial shock wore off, I would say quite a few 7's and some 8's and 9's. I didn't see a 9. 5 all night. I talked to about 5 girls, the first one approached me early, worked me hard kissing me and touching my dick until she got my hard. I had to exercise a lot of restrain, but I asked her to let me take a good look at her and I noticed she had a little belly, and I was aiming for a Loira while she was a Morena, so I dumped her.

Another couple of girls had too many restrictions, I dumped them too. It was around 12:30 when this voluptuous girl came out of nowhere while I was sitting talking to another girl, and she noticed me too. Eventually I asked her to join me and got us some drinks. She was a solid 8. 5-9. We talked for awhile and some red flags started coming up, like she's picky on who she sees, how she had been married and only planned to do this short time, meaning she didn't like her job.

But then when I asked about her likes, while she said she kissed and did BBBJ, she doesn't do anal and doesn't like rough action, like spanking her big ass. But then the worst, she says normally she charges 1000 for the hour, but since last night she had to pay 300 Reals to get in she was charging 1300 per hour! LOL. I asked how much she charges for pernoite? She said she doesn't like them much but it's 3000 for 4 hours LOL. When I said that's too much, she got mad and acted like I wasted her time, she said I'm free to talk to other girls and got up pissed off and left.

I was pissed at her attitude, but whatever it was best to let her go. At this point it was around 1:30 am, and I was buzzed, so I decided that it was best to call it a night without sessioning.

Not the experience I hoped in my first Scandallo visit. I know a lot of it is me, I'm not the best at socializing in settings like this. I paid $835 for 6 drinks, 6 agua minerals. About what I would spend in a normal night at an LA club, so I can't complain there.

Hoping for better luck next time.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2597961]Absolutely. Mongers with deep pockets love to think service level is proportional to price. In fact the correlation is often inver[/QUOTE]Amen, you're right.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2597966]So I hit Scandallo up yesterday. With my luck it was the night of their live music section reopening and they had some local band.
Hoping for better luck next time.[/QUOTE]Did you counter offer? If the girl like you, she may be willing to go for much lower. Also prices tend to drop at the end of the night around 3 or 4 am when girls who didn't get a room yet would settle to save the night. I also use a Scandallo night sometimes not to session there but to have fun and get the girls' phone numbers. I think girls are much more willing to settle for a lower fee when it's outside the club frenzy. The girls know that guys don't negotiate well when their hands are on your dick, guys are quicker to drop them if the negotiation is on WhatsApp. I also noticed that once I pay an amount (500 r or 800 r) the first time with a girl and I always pay that amount per hour both outside or inside the club. They probably have the $$ next to my name on WhatsApp. Hahaha.

I can't wait to go to scandallo with the party lounge open. It was very boring with the just the inside restaurant open. People just sat around. I really like the party atmosphere of connections. I am back next month so hopefully the post COVID upsell would be less.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2597961]

Mongers with deep pockets love to think service level is proportional to price. In fact the correlation is often inverse.

[/QUOTE]IMO nothing to do with "deep pockets" and everything to do with level of experience in this hobby. A new monger just thinks about what it would cost him in his own country. Sometimes, a newbie even thinks you're supposed to just pay the girl what she asks for.

After some experience in the hobby, guys start to appreciate how cheap things are in Brasil / Colombia / DR etc and realizes chica rates should correspond to that. They also realize that paying more has the potential to invite serious problems.

I've known lots of fellow hobbyists over the years and there are plenty of well-heeled ones who are very modest and low-key with the money they spend.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2597961]Salaam Signor Bearsi.

Absolutely. Mongers with deep pockets love to think service level is proportional to price. In fact the correlation is often inverse.[/QUOTE]I don't know if one gets better or worse service paying more, but usually paying more gives you nicer packaging. The visual aspect is very important to me. Most boate girls spend more time doing their makeup and hair, wear nicer clothes and more expensive lingerie than clinica or prive girls. I prefer girls with nice lingerie and high heels in my bed. Those things cost and the girls have to pass the cost to the client. Another thing is that I'm a night person and like the boate environment. Usually I spend my mornings and early afternoons doing something else than chasing pussy. It is interesting that there are so many people here who think they know what motivates a fellow monger. Anyway, I do both clinicas and boates.

Paying less is often a factor of how much game you have regardless of the country, speaking Portuguese fluently and understanding cultural references well enough to counteract the ATM effect. If all you have going for you is your wallet, then you will pay whatever the GDP thinks she can get. Women, even when they are being paid, prefer the company of charming, confident, successful men, not losers. Guys here spend way too much time thinking about the girl, when they should be thinking about how the girl views them.

Maybe the price increases at Scandello and the girls is just due to a pent up demand from gringos and locals alike. I think with the recent surge in vaccination rates and the lack of restrictions in SP. People are going to go nuts just like they did in the USA back in May and June.

Scandello is looking to make up lost revenue as fast as possible and maybe even make up for the renovations. Same with the girls who are probably behind on bills and other things.

I hope the Delta variant doesn't enter Brazil but with recent Miami flights full going down, it wouldn't surprise that Brazil is probably 2-4 months away from full blown case surges.

Enjoy it while you can. My next trip isn't till Jan 2022 unless there is a fantastic deal on airline fares.

I have been to Rio and SP several times. Have been terribly missing these two heaven on earth. Scandallo (SP), Monte carlo (Rio) and solarium, 4 x 4 (Rio) - are my favorites.

I am vaccinated (Pfizer).

Want to get some inputs / guidance of precautions / fear / no-fear. Justification of enjoying in these clubs with Covid going around. I know this may be a buzz-kill question. So please don't beat me up. Haha.

I am very eager to understand what are the various logic both scientific as well as non-scientific for mongering with Covid around all of us.

I have been terribly quiet since March 2020. No action at all and is killing me.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2597966]So I hit Scandallo up yesterday. With my luck it was the night of their live music section reopening and they had some local band that everyone seems to like, meaning the entrance fee was up to 600.00 Reals with 200.00 consumable.[/QUOTE]People that went just a few months ago were reporting here that the entrance fee was 250.00 real. It's absolutely crazy that they can jack it up to 600.00 in such a short matter of time.

It may be only be a matter of time before they start charging 1,000.00 Reals for entrance. At this point, they know their ideal customer will still be willing to pay that.

It's a shame Scandallo sort of has a monopoly on the boates scene in SP. If they had any legit competition, this would never happen.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2598039]People that went just a few months ago were reporting here that the entrance fee was 250.00 real. It's absolutely crazy that they can jack it up to 600.00 in such a short matter of time.

It may be only be a matter of time before they start charging 1,000.00 Reals for entrance. At this point, they know their ideal customer will still be willing to pay that.

It's a shame Scandallo sort of has a monopoly on the boates scene in SP. If they had any legit competition, this would never happen.[/QUOTE]I think the higher entrance fee is due to special event (music program by 2 singers) and it may not be a permanent hike, but it wouldn't surprise me if it is.

Day 1-.

Hello everyone I have been following this site for probably around a year now. I decided to contribute since I have arrived in Sao Paulo this week. I had an overnight flight from Florida to VCP Airport. I flew with Azul airlines and they offer free bus rides to different areas around the city if you fly with them. The busses start running around 8 am. I took the bus to barra funda which is near where I am staying in Moema. I made sure to download Google maps for offline mode and searched for a claro store near the barra funda bus terminal. There was one that was at a mall not far from the terminal so I walked there and got my phone setup and was good to go. The phone plan is 60 BRL for 12 gb data (I have already found out that claro is not the best service though. I had no service while heading to an area northeast. The uber drivers say that video is the best for coverage.) Since I got my phone setup I figured I might as well go bust a nut or two. I went to Zarah Massagem in Pompeia since I had luck there before. I fucked a sexy little tight body 20's brunette. She was a great fuck and I busted in her mouth 2 times for the hour. I don't remember her house name but got her whatsapp. She wants to take me out to bars dancing. After that I headed to a good bakery nearby that has a good restaurant that is buffet style with different selections of food that you pay for by the kg. The place is called Dona Dela. Pompia, I recommend for hot food or bakery items. The last important thing for day 1 in SP was to checking to my Airbnb in Moema.

Day 2-.

I walked around the Moema area running some errands. I found a physical therapist for a shoulder injury that charges 180 BRL per session or less if you buy a package deal. I checked out a Portuguese language school in moema but they are only offering private lessons right now and wanted more than what I want to spend. I headed to pick up some groceries at Po de Acar. Moema. This is a good grocery store I would recommend. Big selection and more organic variety but not too bad for prices. After I dropped the groceries off at my place I headed to check out a mma gym. I speak very little Portuguese and only one person in the gym spoke English, but it looks like there are good competitors there. I think I will try this gym out. I will be staying in Brazil for maybe 6 months. I plan on heading to Rio maybe in a month or two, then I would also like to see Florianopolis and Blumenau. After checking the gym out I grabbed some dinner at a Chinese spot right near my place. The guy taking my order went outside after I ordered and I smelled some weed being lit up. Thank God for Google translate because I don't know how to say where the weed at in Portuguese yet. The guy gave me a little sample to try out. I did that exactly and crashed for the night.

Day 3-.

I took the great advice of having some clinicas add me to their whatsapp updates. I saw that clinica cherry had a sexy little spinner 18 year old that I wanted to give a try so I headed there. When I got there she hadn't arrived for the day yet, so I chose a sexy brunette 23 year old named Anny. Before I went with her I asked the receptionist if she would do oral natural until finish. She asked the girl then told me yes ok so off we went 250 brl for the hour. She was a great fuck and has a perfect body. The only downside was she has fake tits which I don't like, and when I was about to cum she said she doesn't take it in the mouth. I wasn't even going to try arguing or trying to persuade or even surprise cumshot in the mouth her, so I just shot my load all over her stomachache. She gave me a decent massage then I fucked her doggy and made her pay for not taking my load in her mouth by pounding the everything dog shit out of her then busted all over her bolt ONS. As I left I talked to the receptionist and let her know that the girl didn't let my future babies swim in her mouth. She said she doesn't know why. I told her me either that's why I asked her about it before I even went with the girl. Strike one for me at this place. The 18 year old spinner arrives in a couple hours so I went to a restaurant right across the street that is by weight that was pretty good. Then came back to cherry to try the 18 year old spinner out. I asked her if she would do BBBJ and CIM she said yes and off we went. She is a sexy little thing and really cute. She gave a good BBBJ and I made her cum hard while she sat on my face 69. She was great riding my dick and taking it from behind doogy as I jackhammered that tight little pink pussy. I noticed the condom came off and said Fuck. She noticed too and we both looked at each other with surprise. I asked her if she was clean which she said yes. I told her that I was and I got tested this week. I asked her if she would finish without a condom and she said no because she doesn't want to get pregnant. I told her that I would pull out but she wasn't having it. She started sucking me off and put a condom on. I buried every inch of my dick into her little pink slit until I came in her little warm mouth. The feeling of ecstacy. Everything was good but she started getting dressed and I asked why. She told me that she only does 1 finish for the hour. I have never had this problem before and ask her how much for another finish. She said she had another customer to attend to so she couldn't. I talked to the receptionist about this girl only doing 1 finish for the hour and again said she doesn't know why. Strike 2 for this place.

Next I went on a hunt to find some good quality boxing gloves and shin guards. I found out the are really hard to find in SP especially right now. I also found out that traffic is horrible during rush hour here if you are heading outside of the city. An uber ride told me it would cost 73 Brl but the uber driver went a long way around to avoid traffic (after the trip they showed that the cost was 202 Brl because of the different route. I disputed it on their app and they honored the 73 Brl price). The uber car fucking died while we were on a busy interstate right before I got to my destination. I got another uber and then headed to a girls apartment that I met on my last trip to Brazil. This girl was the highlight of my last trip that I met in Rio. I caught up with her and she talked to me in her broken English. She seemed like a completely different girl and she didn't even really get ready to see me. It was just sad really and I wasn't into it. After that I just ate some dinner and crashed.

Day 4-.

I decided to try out prime. I showed up and was surprised by all the sexy women they have. There were probable 15 of them at least. I chose a really cute and innocent looking 19 year old named Lua. A girl here named Aline speaks English and translated for me. Lua will do BBBJ and 2 finishes but no CIM. The price here is 180 Brl for an hour. We got to the room and Lua asked if I wanted to have a threescore with Aline. I asked how much and she told me 320 Brl for an hour, sign me the fuck up lets do it. Aline is a cute 29 uear old short haired spinner with a tight body and speaks good English. She is a freak too. Both of the girls gave a good GFE and it was their first time playing with each other. I had Lua sit on my face while Aline took my dick all the way, sucking it like her favorite blow pop. It didn't take long before Lua came hard from me eating her sweet little pussy. I had Lua sit on my dick and ride me, which she did well. Then I had her get down on all 4's while I pounded her from behind then I had Aline ride me in the chair. As I was getting close to cumming I had them both take turns sucking me off until I unloaded in Aline's mouth. Round 2 was a quick one because the first load took a while. I had them both suck me then I laid Lua down flat and fucked her from behind getting every bit of my dick in that little can't then I busted in her. Money and time well spent. I got both of their contact info and will see them both again.

I found a really good place in moema for acai. The best that I have had in Brazil at a place called Aa Fernandes moema. This place is a must try if you like acai. I liked it so much I bought a 3. 6 L tub of it from them there for 65 Brl.

Day 5-.

Lazy day my back hurts probably from fucking so I laid around and slept in late. I saw on primes whatsapp update that they have 2 girls for 290 Brl for the hour so I stopped in. I took Aline and a tiny 31 year old spinner named Geovanna that weighs maybe 70 lbs. Giovanna was an interesting fuck. She is very quiet and shy but gives a good blowjob and has a sweet little pussy. I had Aline sit on my face while G polished my rod. Aline is a freak and came hard on my face I had G ride me then fucked her from behind then had Aline suck me dry. Talked for a while with them then had Aline suck my dick again until I shot my load in it again.

This is my introduction to the forum. If anyone in Sao Paulo wants to meet up let me know. I haven't been to scandallo or any other places yet. I will probably be staying here for a month or two. I might move to Brazil in the future. After a month or two here I will head to Rio and stay in Rio for probably 2 or 3 months. Anyone in Rio that would want to meetup same thing get a hold of me. I think after Rio I will head to Florianpolis and Blumenau. I will post updates soon. Any tips or recommendations are very much welcomed.

I was in SP 2 x this year, the first was in June and the 2nd was in August. I had such a great time that I am returning to SP between 9/8 to 9/13. If any bros want a wingman during my trip, send me a PM.

I was there with some friends in June and we are all experienced mongers, but our first time in Brazil. We were all blown away by our positive experiences in SP and can't wait to go back. We are already rescheduling future trips from European FKKs, Colombia and / or SE Asia to Brazil instead!

The genesis of this trip started with some amazing business class air fares to Brazil so we arrived in SP fresh and able to hit the ground running.

We did have to get RT-PCR tests 72 hours before flight, which can be hard to find or expensive depending on your location, but for us from a big US city, it was free and easy. As we only had a 3 day stay in SP, we got our return Antigen test for our return USA flight at GRU airport right after landing in SP. Traffic wasn't too bad and was about 60 min from airport to our hotel. The Uber cost was about R100. After checking in, we checked out our first clinica (Prime) and was impressed by the talent.

Clinica Prime: (Saturday, June 2021).

We got there at 12 pm on a Saturday and there were about 10 available and we each found a girl that fit our individual tastes. There was variety among body type, age, etc. I would rate most as 6-7's, with a couple of 8's. After comparing notes, we agreed that the common threads among our first clinica expensive are that 1) Brazilian women are passionate and aim to please 2) they are at min GFE (BBBJ and DFK) and often times PSE (RJ and anal). So none of that CBJ and no kissing BS or upsell you might find in other hobbying countries. All the girls basically devoured us and provided such great service that we returned the next day! The prices were R180 for 30 and R240 for 60 min. We didn't speak a lick of Porto except Obrigado, but Google translate was fine communicating with the MMS and the girls. Some of the girls can understand / speak a little Spanish so that can help.

Scandallo Lounge (Saturday, June 2021):

After getting out first shot in, we returned to the hotel for lunch and a siesta before our evening foray into the pussy paradise known as Scandallo. We headed out for the club at around 5 pm, as the city has a 9 pm curfew that Scandallo was adhering to (after a bust caught them breaking curfew earlier in the month). The security guards patted us down and ushered is into a large front desk area for you to "check in". I showed them an ID and was given a magnetic card to record drink and food orders. We were obviously 3 gringos and a manager with limited English gave us a tour and explained how in things worked.

As we arrived before 7 pm, it was R50 cover and R150 min consumption. He said we need to negotiate with the girls and claimed the pricing should be R300-400 for the hour, which didn't jive with what I read here on ISG before the trip. And definitely didn't with reality after speaking to the girls. It was R230 per hour for the room and R250 to take a girl out of the club.

He led us in into the elevator to the 2nd floor, which opened into a small bar area. Further down was a large restaurant and to the right was a small outdoor patio. The main dance area / disco, as well as the other expanded outdoor areas were closed for renovations during our visit in June, but the main outdoor area with more comfortable seating and a fire pit and patio furniture were open on my 2 md trip in August. The club was quite packed at this time (6 pmish) with lots of girls (probably 90+) and around 40+ guys. There were lots of hot girls paired with guys at the patio and in the restaurant drinking, eating and fooling around. Those not occupied were either hanging out at the bar or the restaurant, which also had a big ass bar area. Many of the girls were also doing the occasional circuit from the outdoor patio to the bar and restaurant to show off their wares.

After taking in the scenery over a drink at the outdoor area, my friends and I went from counting the girls we wanted to fuck to girls that we DID NOT want to fuck. As the former list got too big! The talent level was off the charts with most girls in the 7-8 range, but there were lots of 8. 5's to 9's and quite a few 9. 5's. I even saw a couple that I consider a 10, but they were with other guys. The girls were mostly lighter skinned and body type ranged from thin to athletic to voluptuous. I didn't see too many darker skin girls and definitely no BBWs. Most of the girls looked to be in their early to mid 20's, with some in their 30's. None looked to be in their 40's or higher, but wouldn't surprise me if some were. Our heads were getting whiplash from all the hot girls walking by us or in our surroundings.

We decided to eat after settling into our new environment and found the food to be pretty decent. The restaurant was quite dark, but it is brighter by the bar area.

We retreated back to the outdoor patio and we eventually each found the best girl for each of our tastes to come to our table to hang, check out their languages skills, chemistry and negotiate pricing. The girls started with R800-R1000 offers for 1 HR in club. We said that's more than usual price other friends told us and even quoted the Manager's low estimated pricing of R3-400! They all quickly came down to R500, and that's with minimal negotiations as we hate haggling. I am sure others can get it lower with harder / longer negotiations, but we didn't try.

One of my friends took 2 girls and gave them $100 USD each instead of reals. He also found out that Scandallo charges R230 per girl. Not per room. So he got hit with a charge of R460 for the room. That was the only bitter taste of his night at Scandallo as he said it was one of the best, if not the best, three some of his hobbying career.

My other friend chose a hot petite blonde and they seem to hit it off when chatting over drinks. He later said his experience was very good, but not mind blowing. He rate it an 8 and similar to his experience at Clinica Prime, but with a much hotter girl.

I chose a hot brunette (a 9. 5 face, dazzling smile and mesmerizing eyes and a 9 body on the petite and voluptuous side). She was very flirty and handsy and used her tongue in numerous ways to reel me in. Her lack of English was the only negative / positive as we used our tongues for other uses once in the room. The first half hour in the room was intense super GFE, but she soon lost steam and probably surprised she hadn't gotten my to come yet. I took over the 2nd half and her ample ass was the perfect cushion for a long lazy dog pumping that finally got me across the finish line. Under normal situations, I would easily repeat with her, but in the big sea of talent in Scandallo, I would definitely want to sample other hotties.

When I was done with the room, I found my friends chatting with new girls and we eventually exchanged numbers for dates the next day. They mentioned they they were going to Connections Night Club, when Scandallo closes at 9 pm. Connections is Scandallo's sister club and they open until 3-4 am We considered going too, but decided to call bit a night, as we are still a bit jetlagged and already had 2 satisfying pops with Brazilian hotties.

Clinica Prime: (Sunday, June 2021).

The next day, we decided to check out other clinicas in Moena. However, as it was Sunday, many of them were closed. We did check out Miruna, but found their roster to be meh at 1 pm on a Sunday so went back to Prime. The roster was a bit different, with about 1/2 the girls on Saturday also working on Sunday.

I was all set to repeat with my thin petite brunette cutie from yesterday, when I saw this super hot morena with a great smile and voluptuous body walk in. I took her to the room and wow oh wow! She gave the 2nd best GFE / PSE service I had this trip and probably top 10 all time. She didn't speak English but can understand a bit of Spanish. She gave me a nice flirty shower and basically attacked me once we got to the bed. She likes to be in control, but also gives it up easily when you want to take the lead. She was gave a great wet BBBJ with good suction, DT and great attention to the boys. She also gave a great RJ and stripper slide. She knows how to ride on CG and has a great ass for any K9 position. Best of all, she was passionate throughout and has the endurance of the Energizer bunny!

Outcall pernoite:

My 2 friends also had good sessions and we headed off to do tourists stuff before dinner. As it was Sunday and the boates were closed, We each made dinner dates with a GDP. One of my friends and I hooked up with girls from Scandallo that we got numbers from the previous night and my other friend used MClass and we all had dinner in Jardins area and then went back to the hotel for a pernoite. We each negotiated over Whatsapp and the pricing was similar. We paid between R1,000 to R1,200 for pernoite. All our girls during the pernoite were 8. 5 to 9's and delivered good dinner companionship and great service in bed.

Scandallo: (Monday afternoon, June 2021).

We loved Scandallo so much they were decided to go there instead of clinicas on our last day before our nighttime flight home. We arrived at 1 pm, shortly after they opened. To our pleasant surprise, there was no cover and just a R150 consumption. As we entered the club, we saw it was definitely much less crowded during a Monday afternoon compared to Saturday night. There were still around 30 girls in house and the talent was still pretty good with quite a few 8's and 9's and even a few 9. 5's.

My friends each quickly settled in on the two 9. 5's and bought them a drink. The negotiation gambit started once again and they both wanted R1,000 for the hour. My friends played it cool and said they were here on Saturday and it was only R500. One girl quickly accepted the R500 counter and off they went. The other girl tried to be flirty but wouldn't come down from $1,000 so he sent her away and quickly found another hottie to chat with. They quickly agreed to R500 and off they went too.

I was a bit bored by myself and the hot 9. 5 that wanted R1,000 was at an adjacent table so I offered to buy her a drink to past the time and have some eye candy to chat with, as her English was decent. I found her to be quite smart, well traveled and knowledgeable on current events. After a bit, she tried to be flirty with me under the table, but I told her that she was beautiful, but I wasn't willing to go to the room for her asking price. She tried to turn up the heat with more hands on affection and DFK, but when it didn't work. She acted hurt that I didn't want her. I told her I did, but not for that price in a Scandallo room. I offered her R1,000 to come back to my hotel for 3-4 hours with anal and she quickly said yes.

We ubered back to the hotel and spend the rest of the afternoon having fun all over my suite. We did it on all the furniture possible and even in the jacuzzi and shower. It turned out to be the best sex I had this trip. She gave the same level of service that the Clinica Prime girl gave me on Sunday, but is hotter and did it for almost 3 hours straight. She got 3 pops out of me which is unheard of! She claimed she came 4 x as well. When my friend found out I took her after he rejected her and how great she was, he was kicking himself the whole plane ride home! My friends had very good experiences with their last choices of the trip and we vow to return soon!

I did return before they did in August. I split my time between RJ and SP and will post those reports up soon!

[QUOTE=Husky1;2598082]This is my introduction to the forum. If anyone in Sao Paulo wants to meet up let me know. I haven't been to scandallo or any other places yet. I will probably be staying here for a month or two. I might move to Brazil in the future. After a month or two here I will head to Rio and stay in Rio for probably 2 or 3 months. Anyone in Rio that would want to meetup same thing get a hold of me. I think after Rio I will head to Florianpolis and Blumenau. I will post updates soon. Any tips or recommendations are very much welcomed.[/QUOTE]I'm trying to message you but can't. You need a premium subscription for PM. Let me know, I'm down to hit up Scandallo and Clínicas next week.

After spending 2 days in RJ, I was looking forward to my return to SP. I arrived at CGH and it was a quick Uber to my hotel in Jardim. As I was flying back to the US in 2 days, I went to a local Drogasil on Av. Paulista and got my COVID-19 Antigen test done. It was R100 and completed after an hour due to 3-4 people ahead of me in line. I then hit up a local Bradesco ATM and then hit Scandallo.

Scandallo: (Friday, August 2021).

I had planned to get to the club before 7 pm to avoid the cover, but my errands took longer than I expected so I got there around 8 pm. I checked in, was told it was R150 cover and R150 min consumption and returned to paradise after exiting the elevator. The place was hoping and more packed than my last trip in June.

There were at least 100+ girls and by the constant incoming and outgoing of girls, I guess there were 150+ working that night. The restaurant was more packed with guys than last time. I would guess 2 x as much as it was hard to get any table to eat. It got worse as the night went on, when it was standing room only in the restaurant. I was told that the main outdoor area is now open later at night, but the disco / dance area was still under renovations. They did say they there will be a live band later at night, which was pretty good too.

I scoped the club out and saw that the talent level had not diminished. It was still mostly 7-8's, with some 8. 5 to 9's and a sprinkling of 9. 5's. I then had dinner and noted potential targets to chat up.

I usually like girls in their 20's, but I saw an elegant MILF that reminded me of Jacklyn Smith. She would be a 10 for me during her youth. She saw me looking her way and came over to say Hi. Unfortunately, she doesn't speak a lick of English so I got her digits and told her I wanted to check out the club some more, but will look for her later.

I then excused myself to go to the restroom and upon exiting, I saw a tall morena with incredible legs and ass walking away. I only saw her profile walking away, but her incredible body and stylish attire drew me in like flies to honey. I followed her to the outdoor area and when she turned around, I saw she had a gorgeous face too. She reminds me of a more sophisticated Emily Willis (the young porn star). I introduced myself and was quite surprised to hear her speak near perfect English. We settled down to talk over drinks and I found her to be very educated and well traveled. She claims to be pursuing her graduate professional degree and do this part time to support herself. By the second drink, they closed off the small outdoor patio and opened up the larger outdoor area in the back. We chilled by the fire pit and she snuggled up to me as we shot the breeze. Her hands were flirtily roaming over mine and we sensually made out.

She started to get cold and I started to get horny so I cut to the chase and asked her rate for pernoite. I also dangled the possibility of back to back pernoite if service was good. She proposed R1200 for 1 night and R2,000 for 2 nights and I didn't even bargain as her opening offer was so reasonable. She provided amazing GFE service both that night and the following morning. That got her the 2nd night with me and we had sex before and after dinner and morning sex the next day. She left after breakfast in bed to go to church and I spend my afternoon in the hotel spa before my flight home.

I didn't expect to only be with one girl and skip the clinicaa totally during my return to SP. I didn't get the expected variety of banging 4-5+ different GDPs, but instead got lucky finding the right girl to spend the weekend with. She was as they say. A lady in the streets and a freak in the sheets.

I plan to get the variety in my upcoming trip in 2 weeks by hitting clinicas by day and Scandallo by night.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2598316]After spending 2 days in RJ, I was looking forward to my return to SP. [/QUOTE]Fantastic reports on SP and RJ. I wish Brazil was as easy for me to get to as it is for Americans.

Here are some random observations and advice I would give a random newbie going to SP for the first time.

These come from the lens of an experienced and well traveled hobbyist with limited travel time and decent financial means, who doesn't speak the local language. I am also from a US city where the cost of living and P4 P is quite high. For others in different situations, a different approach or viewpoint might fit their style more.

Transportation:.

Uber is your friend. Taxis cost way more, even during surge pricing. Uber black is often times similar in pricing and even occasionally cheaper than regular Uber. The benefits of Uber black is they almost never cancel on you and have quicker arrival times. As Uber is so cheap in Brazil, I usually just use Uber black over regular Uber to save time. I found the traffic to be more than tolerable and hear it was way worse pre-pandemic.

Local Currency:

I find having checking accounts with ATM fees refunded to you is the best way to get local cash. I use Schwab and TD for international hobbying ATM withdrawals without fees. You get very close to the exchange rate. Just make sure you to decline the conversion offered by the local bank. I also find Branseco to be my go to ATM due to their security and higher withdrawal limits.

I usually withdraw cash enough for a couple of days of hobbying upon arrival at GRU. There are some right after customs and more on first and second floor of arrivals terminal.

I also carry some $100 bills for emergency conversion at a local exchange, at the hotel and even directly with the GDP.

Cellular Service:

Google Fi is great if you are in country for more than a few days. It is also a great international hobbying phone as you can pause and resume service anytime and pay a prorated amount for service used. Their connection is reliable around SP and RJ. Except by Christ the Redeemer, but that's probably the case for all cell service as AT&T and Verizon didn't work there either.

If you are only there for a few days and have AT&T or Verizon, then just use their daily plan, which is like $10 per day. Much less of a headache then trying to find a sim card dealer that speaks English and able to install and load it for you without a CPF.

Hotels:

I have found the Grand Hyatt, Intercontinental and Renaissance in SP and the JW Marriott in RJ to be girl friendly. I also heard from some monger I met at a clinica that the Bourbon and Mecure in Moema were also girl friendly and very cheap and convenient for waking to clinicas around Moema.

The Grand Hyatt did have the girl register when I came back with her from dinner at 10 pm. They initially tried to charge me, but I pointed out that I had booked a room for 2 guests so they apologized and didn't charge me. Their location isn't the best as it isn't near the main tourist area or Scandallo, but are closer to some clinicas by Brooklin and Itam Bibi. The hotel also quite nice and currently priced cheaply for a 5 star establishment due to COVID-19 destroying business travel and the weak Real.

I brought a girl back at 1 am to the Intercontinental and we walked right in hand in hand and no one stopped us. I find the hotel to be okay, but below other intercontinental hotels worldwide. It is a stretch to call this a 5 star place.

I brought a girl back to the Renaissance after dinner at 10 pm and no one stopped us. We even strolled around the bar as I heard that some working girls occasionally hang out there, but we saw none that were obvious. This hotel is super modern and nicer than the Grand Hyatt by a little bit. It is centrally located to everything (good restaurant, shopping, tourists places, clinicas and Scandallo, etc.) and priced cheaply due to weak Real. It's my go to place for future stays in SP.

The JW Marriott had the girl register when we came in at 2 am, but after a min of awkward small talk while the girl at the front desk did her entry, we were in our way. The JW is centrally located in Copacabana and in decent shape and offered good service.

Clinicas:

I've only been to 2 so my experience is limited, but I find them to be of tremendous value and that the girls offer good service as it's mostly locals and repeat customers. I plan to check out a few more on my next trip in a few weeks and maybe hit some of the higher end clinicas.

Scandallo:

At the end of the day, I've not experienced anything comparable to Scandallo in it's combination of quantity and quality. The closest for me are FKKs in Germany, but the eastern European girls (mostly Romanians) are on average not as service oriented or passionate as Brazilian girls. I've been to FKKs where there were 100+ girls and many 8's and 9's, but mechanical service and upselling are more common.

My other friends says Dongguan, China in it's prime can compare but that's in the past now. Also Hong Kong Club in Tijuana can compare for size and quantity and optics of girls, but the service is way lower and the costs is higher than Scandallo for 60 min.

With the weak Real, there is no better time than now to "splurge" and treat yourself to a night or two or three at my current #1 international hobbying venue. Scandallo!

I didn't see the 500+ girls some claim are at Scandallo, but maybe that's later in the evening or when the main dance floor is open. I find the 150+ that I have seen to be overwhelming. If it gets to 500-700+ with the same quality, my head might explode!

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2598391]Here are some random observations and advice I would give a random newbie going to SP for the first time.

With the weak Real, there is no better time than now to "splurge" and treat yourself to a night or two or three at my current #1 international hobbying venue. Scandallo!

I didn't see the 500+ girls some claim are at Scandallo, but maybe that's later in the evening or when the main dance floor is open. I find the 150+ that I have seen to be overwhelming. If it gets to 500-700+ with the same quality, my head might explode![/QUOTE]Good observations. Visitors should enjoy themselves but also should try to respect the local market and not distort it just because the exchange rate is currently favorable. 500 an hour is more than fair, paying more than that is going to further distort the scene. As reported, there are more than enough that will gladly accept 500 even if they start off asking for 800 or more. Some will accept 400 (I've even seen lower) particularly outside the peak hours (11-2) as they know they can try for another customer after you.

As for numbers of girls, excluding outliers like Formula 1 week, I would say 100-200 is more likely than not. I admit its hard to count a crowd that is in flux so I could be wrong. Anyone ever ask the management how many rooms are on premise?

Also the longer one is in town, the more one should branch out. Scandallo is not the only game in town, nor the best cost benefit unless you are really time constrained.

First of all thanks SocratesNY for the great on the ground write ups. Living vicariously. I'the been thinking about correcting the massive garotas numbers being thrown about but never have. You are right that even on a top night pre-Covid I estimated 150-200 girls. Could it be a bit more? I suppose. 500-700. No way. I think the kid in the candy store gets guys heads spinning.

That said, 150 7-9's with Brasileira attitude and a relaxed GFE both in the club and in the room is to die for. MUCH better than FKK for my needs — an I love me a good FKK! I'll say it again. Favorite venue on the planet. One week to live? I am booking my tickets for a Scandallo-fest!

So after my first attempt at Scandallo last Thursday, I woke up a little late on Friday and decided to try some of the online girls.

The first 2 I had setup for Thursday afternoon and Friday cancelled or ghosted me. But I was undeterred.

I had lunch at the hotel first, fired a few messages and planned to score with 3 girls that afternoon, spaced with one hour break in between LOL. Here is how it went:

At 3 pm I scheduled with a girl advertised on Twitter and other sites, at pamelashurtz312. She received me on time at her flat near the Renaissance. She looked even better than her pics / videos. Fit and big ass and tits, her face was pretty and her demeanor playful. She didn't mind my lack of Porto and kept taking charge asking me if I liked her ass, instructing me to grab it and to suck her tits. She did BBBJ that was great, we tried many positions, and I lasted about 30 min, man I had to resist cause she was great. I wanted a second shot but had another appointment setup at 5 pm. We had a good conversation over Google translate and my limited Porto. Damage was 500 Reals for an hour, I would repeat.

At 5 pm I scheduled with at FerrazGabi28 from Twitter and also advertised on other sites. She had some setbacks and ended up having her come to my hotel at 6 pm instead. Cost was 400 Reals for an hour plus I called her Uber back and forth, that only costed me 25 reals. Her body was good, but her face was not as attractive as I hoped, I took a gamble since she doesn't show face on pictures, but she wasn't ugly either. However, she made it up on effort, riding non stop, providing a solid BBBJ and making me pop in under 30 min. Her English and Spanish was limited, we couldn't have a good conversation so I called her Uber at the 50 min mark. Not disappointed with her because the lower cost and her effort, YMMV.

At 7 pm I scheduled with at melmorena_mel from Twitter, I think she's also on photoaccompanentes. Since my 5 pm was late, I had to push her to 8 pm, and she was not upset and accommodated me happily. Out of the 3 girls, she was the friendlier and easier to deal with, and the cost at her place was 350.00 Reals with anal included. She's a morena clara, 30 something girl, that incalls at a humble place in Bela Vista, the place might not be for all, but let me tell you, she goes the extra mile to service you and treat you like a king. She offered me a drink, poured me a soda in a glass, then started to undress me. She has a big bunda, big tits and a pretty face. She gave me the best BBBJ, rode me, took charge and also willing to be submissive. I really enjoyed her. We had a long conversation with my broken Porto, and even after the hour asked me if I wanted another shot, but I just physically couldn't. I would recommend her, and might see her again before I head back to the US.

I was too tired to go to Scandallo on Friday, after 3 girls I decided to end my night with dinner at Fogo De Chao. One thing that occurred this day is Uber started to give me issues with my cards being declined. I figured out it was because I had send a ride to pick up one of the girls and bring her to my hotel, then sent her back, but I kept the rider as me. My guess is Uber thought someone had fraudulently used my app. This was a little nightmare, gladly I figured out a way to add cash to my app until it was resolved. My recommendation in the future is to use cash to pay for rides for other people.

On Saturday, I met up with another forum member, and we hit the Clinicas in Moema. It was fun having a partner. We went to Prime around 2:30 pm, and the lineup was weak with only 3 girls available, only Duda seemed good but we left. Then we headed to 57 House, the lady here Julia was super friendly and while the lineup was also non existent she showed us the place and I got added to their daily updates. I might revisit here next week. Next up was Miruna's, only 4 girls available, a bit better then Prime but nothing that enticed us to session. I got added to their WhatsApp updates too. Finally, we went to Abbóbora, where the lineup was much better IMO. I picked a mid 20's girl named Julia, tall girl with a nice body and nice demeanor. She spoke good Spanish and never said no to anything I asked for, she had a soft voice and wanted to satisfy me. I got her number and plan to see her again before I leave. My partner didn't session here, but IMO a girl named Monique is worth a look if you like big ass and tits, I had a hard time deciding between her and Julia, and as it turns out she got picked up right away by the next monger after us. I heard her moaning next door LOL and now I'm intrigued, I will be back to Abbóbora as I find their place to be superior to Prime, though and hour is $260 cash, $270 card. $110 for them, $150 for the girl. Worth it to me.

Later in the evening, I headed to Scandallo for dinner and try my luck again. Girl numbers were very low compared to Thursday. I was there at 9 pm and there were about 60 girls, with mostly 7's and a couple of 8's and only one 9. After I got done eating, I started to look around for somebody, and speaking of that 9, I finally got her to look in my direction briefly, but by the time I was ready to call her my way another two mongers scooped her up and I was salty for awhile LOL. But fortunately another girl came around, I rated her an 8, and I waved her my way. She was a brunette with a fit body and a pretty face, said her name was Beatriz. She spoke no English or Spanish, so while still standing she made a comment about it being a little challenging but she willingly sat down and we started our conversation. We relied heavily on Google Translate, and got along fine. After we finished our drink, I asked about her service and she mentioned she would do the naughty things I asked for, her cost was the now apparently standard 1000.00 hour. I asked politely if she'dbe willing to negotiate and take 600, she declined and said if I'd ask other girls I would be quoted 1000 as well. I asked her if she'd be willing to see me outside Scandallo instead, and spend the night with me for a little more for 1200, she said she normally doesn't see people outside the club, but that she'd be interested and knowing me more, and gave me her number. She said to message her next week when I'm back, and we parted ways.

Later on another forum member showed up and we decided to sit at the Club area. The girl numbers and quality didn't improve all night, I saw many girls go around multiple times without getting picked up. I saw the same girl that didn't want to negotiate with me on Thursday, she was with a monger for awhile and suddenly got up with the same look she had when she got upset and me, my guess is she also asked him for 1000 plus and it was a no go. I just don't understand why the girls can't comprehend that 2 clients at 500-700 each is better than no client at 1000 or even 1 at 1000. At some point they have to realize this is a business and treat it as such.

I'm now on the ground in Rio, I arrived today for 3 days. Next week I'll be back to SP to give Scandallo a couple of tries again, I'm not going to leave without sessioning, it's not going to happen. But I want something that feels right. If I'm in the wrong here, someone please assist me so I can come to my senses and salvage my remaining Scandallo visits. I am willing to take any and all criticism. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2598519]...
Some will accept 400 (I've even seen lower) particularly outside the peak hours (11-2) as they know they can try for another customer after you.[/QUOTE]I think this is very good advice and I have suspected it based on my limited experience so far.

I also think one should hit as many clinicas as possible first to acclimate to the optic. I think 50% of the girls are just average. You can easily get 80% of the girls from clinicas. I am not sure about the top level talent yet. I am reserving comment about them until I have more experience. I am not picky. For context, I think the Cane and SK have posted some beautiful girls and I am not even looking for that level. I went from planning to spend anything I want to wait and see.

Scandallo takes credit card without fee and I am glad that I don't have to carry are $ with me or worry about not having enough.

If you have been to Colombia, the Scandallo girls dress more formally like the girls in Bogata Lido (my experience is a few years ago). The other Colombia high end club is Medellin La Isla, the girls dress more casual there. I think if you are used to either, you likely won't be surprised at Scandallo.

One thing I am surprised about is how aggressive some of the Scandallo girls are. Some English speaking ones will approach you and some will try to get you hard very quickly, again just my limited experience.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2598670]I think this is very good advice and I have suspected it based on my limited experience so far.

I also think one should hit as many clinicas as possible first to acclimate to the optic. I think 50% of the girls are just average. You can easily get 80% of the girls from clinicas. I am not sure about the top level talent yet. I am reserving comment about them until I have more experience. I am not picky. For context, I think the Cane and SK have posted some beautiful girls. I went from planning to spend anything I want to wait and see.

One thing I am surprised about is how aggressive some of the Scandallo girls are. Some English speaking ones will approach you and some will try to get you hard, again just my limited experience.[/QUOTE]It all depends on one's "taste" and one one's "time". With enough time one can find plenty for one's taste outside of the high end boates. Just have to know where to look and have the time and patience to do so. I can understand guys who have only a few days going to the big clubs for the convenience factor and the adrenaline rush of being in the largest candy store. By the same token there are amazing girls who don't work the night clubs because they hate the atmosphere or have logistical reasons to prefer other modalities.

[QUOTE=Husky1;2598082]Day 1-.

I went to Zarah Massagem in Pompeia since I had luck there before.

Day 3-.

I saw that clinica cherry had a sexy little spinner 18 year old that I wanted to give a try so I headed there.

Day 4-.

I decided to try out prime. I chose a really cute and innocent looking 19 year old named Lua. A girl here named Aline speaks English and translated for me. Lua will do BBBJ and 2 finishes but no CIM. The price here is 180 Brl for an hour. We got to the room and Lua asked if I wanted to have a threescore with Aline. I asked how much and she told me 320 Brl for an hour, sign me the fuck up lets do it. Aline is a cute 29 uear old short haired spinner with a tight body and speaks good English. She is a freak too. Both of the girls gave a good GFE and it was their first time playing with each other. I had Lua sit on my face while Aline took my dick all the way, sucking it like her favorite blow pop. It didn't take long before Lua came hard from me eating her sweet little pussy. I had Lua sit on my dick and ride me, which she did well. Then I had her get down on all 4's while I pounded her from behind then I had Aline ride me in the chair. As I was getting close to cumming I had them both take turns sucking me off until I unloaded in Aline's mouth. Round 2 was a quick one because the first load took a while. I had them both suck me then I laid Lua down flat and fucked her from behind getting every bit of my dick in that little can't then I busted in her. Money and time well spent. I got both of their contact info and will see them both again.[/QUOTE]Great first report! Good formatting and easy to read. I didn't know about Clinica Cherry and Zarah Massagem. I'll have to try them out on my next visit, probably in a couple months. But are you sure about Prime's pricing? Back when I was there, and also confirmed by many other mongers, their pricing is R180/30 min, R240/60 min. Are they really only 180/60 min now?? That's amazing if it is! I believe this is the normal pricing in Rio clinicas.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2598207]I was in SP 2 x this year, the first was in June and the 2nd was in August. I had such a great time that I am returning to SP between 9/8 to 9/13. If any bros want a wingman during my trip, send me a PM.

I did return before they did in August. I split my time between RJ and SP and will post those reports up soon![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2598639]So after my first attempt at Scandallo last Thursday, I woke up a little late on Friday and decided to try some of the online girls.

I'm now on the ground in Rio, I arrived today for 3 days. Next week I'll be back to SP to give Scandallo a couple of tries again, I'm not going to leave without sessioning, it's not going to happen. But I want something that feels right. If I'm in the wrong here, someone please assist me so I can come to my senses and salvage my remaining Scandallo visits. I am willing to take any and all criticism. Thanks![/QUOTE]Thank you for your reports! Reminds me of what I'm missing out on. Hoping to live this lifestyle in the near future!

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2598639]
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Later on another forum member showed up and we decided to sit at the Club area. [/QUOTE]That was me.

I left a message to EB in the morning saying I am game to any new place he wants to go and ask him to leave me a message and I will be there.

I was out in the afternoon and decided to just go to Scandallo to have dinner before going back to check EB's message. There was a row of girls watching me eating. I was without the phone with whatsapp so I knew I had to leave to go back to my apartment to see where EB wants to go. I called a blonde spinner over and told her I would not have sex with her tonight but I would buy her a drink so they don't have to waste their effort on me. LOL She told me her price was 800. I followed up asking if the price is negotiable. She nodded. So I am guessing I should be able to get her for 600 or less and she is one of the more attractive ones for me. My total bill was about 500.

I am adding this to provide a context to what Rovnak said about pricing.

I got back to my apartment to check the message and EB told me he was at Scandallo so I went back to Scandallo to meet him.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2598288]I'm trying to message you but can't. You need a premium subscription for PM. Let me know, I'm down to hit up Scandallo and Clnicas next week.[/QUOTE]OK. I'll get premium.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2598709]Great first report! Good formatting and easy to read. I didn't know about Clinica Cherry and Zarah Massagem. I'll have to try them out on my next visit, probably in a couple months. But are you sure about Prime's pricing? Back when I was there, and also confirmed by many other mongers, their pricing is R180/30 min, R240/60 min. Are they really only 180/60 min now?? That's amazing if it is! I believe this is the normal pricing in Rio clinicas.



Thank you for your reports! Reminds me of what I'm missing out on. Hoping to live this lifestyle in the near future![/QUOTE]The first day I went there they had a promotion 180 r per HR or 290 r for 2 girls an hour. The second day I went the prices went back to the normal ones that you stated. 180 r per half HR or 240 r per HR, or 320 r per hour for 2 girls.

Good reading detailed reports!
Husky1
SocratesNY
EverythingBlue: Thank you for posting Twitter Names. Very good eye pleasing selections. You have good tastes!!

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2598391]Here are some random observations and advice I would give a random newbie going to SP for the first time...[/QUOTE]Nice report! Thanks for taking the time and putting it together.

[QUOTE=Husky1;2598771]The first day I went there they had a promotion 180 r per HR or 290 r for 2 girls an hour. The second day I went the prices went back to the normal ones that you stated. 180 r per half HR or 240 r per HR, or 320 r per hour for 2 girls.[/QUOTE]Was it an advertised promotion for everyone, or did they perhaps offer it to you personally as a "first time" enticement. Or accidentally give it to at payment time mistakenly thinking you were what is called a "forista" eligible for the forista discount, because those lower prices are the forista discount prices everyday.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2598639]

I'm now on the ground in Rio, I arrived today for 3 days. Next week I'll be back to SP to give Scandallo a couple of tries again, I'm not going to leave without sessioning, it's not going to happen. But I want something that feels right. If I'm in the wrong here, someone please assist me so I can come to my senses and salvage my remaining Scandallo visits. I am willing to take any and all criticism. Thanks![/QUOTE]Great report!!

I think you should try to talk to a few girls at Scandello before settling on one. Don't worry about their place on the scale since you are only talking to them to get info and to get more comfortable at the game. Also, the other girls notice you talking to different girls and that might pique their interest.

I go in with zero expectations and literally expect to strike out but in the end, I usually find something that works for my taste.

Good luck in the coming days!!

Has anybody been here? It close to Moema and open late. Lots of google reviews which mention beautiful girls over the last year, which makes me think it's not just a civie disco club. Or maybe it just has a great marketing team. Hahaha. I'll bite and willing to check it out later this month when I am back in SP. I would like to find a low key club.

Brooklin Club.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/mSntUH5ekhzRDpbq5[/URL]

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2598639]I'm now on the ground in Rio, I arrived today for 3 days. Next week I'll be back to SP to give Scandallo a couple of tries again, I'm not going to leave without sessioning, it's not going to happen. But I want something that feels right. If I'm in the wrong here, someone please assist me so I can come to my senses and salvage my remaining Scandallo visits. I am willing to take any and all criticism. Thanks![/QUOTE]To make it more interactive and fun, there are waiters and girls at Scandallo that speak English that can help you. Just throw them a tip in the beginning and tell the girl that you need her to help translate.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2599071]Great report!!

I think you should try to talk to a few girls at Scandello before settling on one. Don't worry about their place on the scale since you are only talking to them to get info and to get more comfortable at the game. Also, the other girls notice you talking to different girls and that might pique their interest.

I go in with zero expectations and literally expect to strike out but in the end, I usually find something that works for my taste.

Good luck in the coming days!![/QUOTE]I guess I am different. I could never leave Scandallo without taking a girl for a spin. I get it when you are at a Clinica with three girls (but even there I grabbed one! LOL). But with a hundred hotties to choose, I do not understand going home empty handed. Surely anyone of them is better than jacking off in your hotel room! Maybe it's just me but when I go to Scandallo only question is one or two. Never zero.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2598679]It all depends on one's "taste" and one one's "time". With enough time one can find plenty for one's taste outside of the high end boates. Just have to know where to look and have the time and patience to do so. I can understand guys who have only a few days going to the big clubs for the convenience factor and the adrenaline rush of being in the largest candy store. By the same token there are amazing girls who don't work the night clubs because they hate the atmosphere or have logistical reasons to prefer other modalities.[/QUOTE]I agree. Time is money too. There are posters saying the same thing about La Isla in Medellin. I know it is not full of 8s and 9s because I went often so I say this from the perspective that I like the place and is a frequent visitor.

Once I have seen Scandallo myself, I think it is like La Isla. So what I am saying is look around first to get used to the sight, then go enjoy Scandallo. If you are going to negotiate, you can also make a better informed decision.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2599071]
I go in with zero expectations and literally expect to strike out but in the end, I usually find something that works for my taste.[/QUOTE]That is a good approach.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2599071]Great report!!

I think you should try to talk to a few girls at Scandello before settling on one. Don't worry about their place on the scale since you are only talking to them to get info and to get more comfortable at the game. Also, the other girls notice you talking to different girls and that might pique their interest.

I go in with zero expectations and literally expect to strike out but in the end, I usually find something that works for my taste.

Good luck in the coming days!![/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips. I think so far I've only engaged in conversations with the ones I would very likely do, I need to expand my coverage to get a better picture of the situation. I've gone in with very high expectations each time, so I'll switch the approach and see how it goes.

[QUOTE=Hobbying;2599097]To make it more interactive and fun, there are waiters and girls at Scandallo that speak English that can help you. Just throw them a tip in the beginning and tell the girl that you need her to help translate.[/QUOTE]That is a good idea. I've only ran into non English speakers so far, like Mr. Anaggie suggested, I need to speak to more girls. Chemistry is a mysterious thing, sometimes you get a hottie but the feeling isn't there, so in the end you might end up with a dead fish.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2599102]I guess I am different. I could never leave Scandallo without taking a girl for a spin. I get it when you are at a Clinica with three girls (but even there I grabbed one! LOL). But with a hundred hotties to choose, I do not understand going home empty handed. Surely anyone of them is better than jacking off in your hotel room! Maybe it's just me but when I go to Scandallo only question is one or two. Never zero.[/QUOTE]Mr. Steve, this has been my approach at my last two tries, but I've came out empty. After being here a few days now, however, I feel more confident and think this week things will change.

I'm in Rio now, and last night visited 4 X 4, I ended up taking a girl to the hotel for a pernoite, I paid her 500.00 and she had a great body, did anal and never said no to anything. I'm having a great time now!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2599102]I guess I am different. I could never leave Scandallo without taking a girl for a spin. I get it when you are at a Clinica with three girls (but even there I grabbed one! LOL). But with a hundred hotties to choose, I do not understand going home empty handed. Surely anyone of them is better than jacking off in your hotel room! Maybe it's just me but when I go to Scandallo only question is one or two. Never zero.[/QUOTE]Have yet to leave empty handed from Scandello or any of the other boates I have visited in Brazil, but that doesn't mean that I made the right choice every time. When I was in my 30's and was visiting Brazil for work, I made a few bad choices and many questionable choices. But I never understood why.

The reason I state "go in with low expectations" is because when you go in with high expectations, you have consciously programmed yourself to defeat. Mentally you expect to get a 9 or 10, then you see that there aren't that many 9's or 10's, you get let down and make bad choices. Humans are known to make make bad or not as good choices when presented with too many options.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2599316]Have yet to leave empty handed from Scandello or any of the other boates I have visited in Brazil, but that doesn't mean that I made the right choice every time. When I was in my 30's and was visiting Brazil for work, I made a few bad choices and many questionable choices. But I never understood why.

The reason I state "go in with low expectations" is because when you go in with high expectations, you have consciously programmed yourself to defeat. Mentally you expect to get a 9 or 10, then you see that there aren't that many 9's or 10's, you get let down and make bad choices. Humans are known to make make bad or not as good choices when presented with too many options.[/QUOTE]This gets back to the tip sheet you posted on August 22. I believe you might also be alluding to taking your time, talking with the girls and assessing attitudes. Don't get it locked in your head that you are going to hook up with a model type.

I would add that if you see local guys consistently shying away from a 9/10 that is a very bad sign. She probably has a word of mouth reputation amongst the club regulars. Don't think you won the lottery because she is showing interest in you.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2599331]This gets back to the tip sheet you posted on August 22. I believe you might also be alluding to taking your time, talking with the girls and assessing attitudes. Don't get it locked in your head that you are going to hook up with a model type.

I would add that if you see local guys consistently shying away from a 9/10 that is a very bad sign. She probably has a word of mouth reputation amongst the club regulars. Don't think you won the lottery because she is showing interest in you.[/QUOTE]Exactly. There has got to be a reason why a 9/10 is sitting by herself. She might just be a total ***** Amd I can assure you if she is bitchy in the club, she is going to be an even bigger ***** later.

Take your time, talk to a few and most importantly. Trust your gut. If something just doesn't feel right, walk away.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2599438]Exactly. There has got to be a reason why a 9/10 is sitting by herself. She might just be a total ***** Amd I can assure you if she is bitchy in the club, she is going to be an even bigger ***** later.

Take your time, talk to a few and most importantly. Trust your gut. If something just doesn't feel right, walk away.[/QUOTE]Some made enough money for the day / night and are waiting to until they can leave to get an invite for the next day otherwise they need to pay 250 R to get in.

Very nice reporting EverythingBlue and SocratesNY. I am glad to hear all of Scandallo is open, not just the restaurant and the area around it. I will be there soon and hope to meet you or anyone on the ground.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2599331]This gets back to the tip sheet you posted on August 22. I believe you might also be alluding to taking your time, talking with the girls and assessing attitudes. Don't get it locked in your head that you are going to hook up with a model type.

I would add that if you see local guys consistently shying away from a 9/10 that is a very bad sign. She probably has a word of mouth reputation amongst the club regulars. Don't think you won the lottery because she is showing interest in you.[/QUOTE]9/10 will ask 1000-1500 R / HR and most local guys not going to pay that. From experience, 9/10 do not need to go to boates often because they have their fixed clients they see or has a sugar daddy. They do go in sporadically if they have nothing going on or recently broke up with their sugar. I've met a few that does this so its all pot luck.

So wanted to share my report from last week.

On Monday I setup an incall with a girl I saw in twitter. Readhead from Portoalegre (she goes by Ivy Mansur) and she was amazing. A bit pricey from other girls in twitter but definitely worth it.

On Wednesday I called one girl that I had met years ago from Bomboa and she is always willing to come visit me at the hotel. She said 1000 for 3 hours and it was just pure ecstasy. We always have good chemistry.

On Friday I decided to tour the boates. I went to Scandallo (my 1st time LOL) and I liked the place and all but it is expensive. The amount of girls was pretty good and the full nighclub area was open. I hung out with a girl I knew from Casarao and she told me they are indeed planning to open back in September.

I ended up leaving Scandallo and going to Bomboa. This is my 1st time back in there after they changed places. It does seem the place is smaller than their previous location. Talent was good. I found one redhead that caught my eye and decided to spend the night with her. It really helps knowing Portuguese and we hit it off. Really good chemistry and she was more than down to leave and go to my hotel. She stayed almost all night with me for 1000 dollars and she practically fucked me during those 3 hours LOL. She also did mention that Casarao was planning to open back up.

[QUOTE=Hobbying;2599628]9/10 will ask 1000-1500 R / HR and most local guys not going to pay that. From experience, 9/10 do not need to go to boates often because they have their fixed clients they see or has a sugar daddy. They do go in sporadically if they have nothing going on or recently broke up with their sugar. I've met a few that does this so its all pot luck.[/QUOTE]Just like the stock market, where insider information is regularly traded among select individuals, in the super hot (model) market, information is similarly traded. You will not find this information on any public forum or message board. If a girl has a regular client base, she may step out from time to time when she just has to have a special pair of shoes, but she won't budge too far from her price. Again, she is making a decision about whether you are up to her standards, not so much the other way around. Contrary to the she is not worth it crowd's opinion, these women are definitely worth it and have been vetted. Also, getting on the list that contain the inside information on these girls is not easy.

Just got back from Rio. I'm now closer to believing SP is the city I prefer most. Although my stay in Rio was short, and value to be found there is crazy, I'm glad to be back in SP.

Just walked over to Enjoy and Abbobora, these two places have competed hard on lineups during my last 2 visits, man a lot of hot girls here. I ended up sessioning at Abbobora again, she was a cabello castaño thick shorty light skin, she caught my eye even though many others were solid too. I got her number and she's willing to chill, and come to my hotel. I now have 2 prospects to bring over to my suite at the Renaissance, I got a pretty nice room to have some fun sex LOL.

My dilemma is, secure a pernoite with these girls or try Scandallo? Damn so many choices and not enough time. I'm about to eat some steak and head out to Enjoy again, I want another session before I decide my fate for later. I got two pops on the first one, but I'm not satisfied yet, this damn addiction!

I appreciate everyone's tips and ideas about Scandallo, I'm here until Saturday night and plan to splurge as much as my body allows me, this place is heaven gentlemen, specially on a day like today when the sun is out and I'm just casually walking around looking for pussy. I'll keep reporting.

[QUOTE=Brsvv;2599693] Snip. I ended up leaving Scandallo and going to Bomboa. This is my 1st time back in there after they changed places. It does seem the place is smaller than their previous location. Talent was good. I found one redhead that caught my eye and decided to spend the night with her. It really helps knowing Portuguese and we hit it off. Really good chemistry and she was more than down to leave and go to my hotel. She stayed almost all night with me for 1000 dollars and she practically fucked me during those 3 hours LOL. She also did mention that Casarao was planning to open back up.[/QUOTE]Did you mean 1000 real? Or did you actually pay her 1000 USD (5200 real equivalent). For 3 hours? If you did, I'm amazed she left instead of not letting you out of her sight.

Can anyone on the ground or w / recent knowledge speak to the vaccination status at the boates and clinicas?

Some of the GPS on twitter I've been in touch with are either full or partially vaccinated. Not sure of what to expect at the venues. Not overly concerned but figured I'd ask.

[QUOTE=MixedSalad07;2599810]Can anyone on the ground or w / recent knowledge speak to the vaccination status at the boates and clinicas?

Some of the GPS on twitter I've been in touch with are either full or partially vaccinated. Not sure of what to expect at the venues. Not overly concerned but figured I'd ask.[/QUOTE]So far I've asked a handful of girls and they've said they are either fully vaccinated or at least partially. Now, which vaccine is a different topic, it seems like a majority have the AstraZeneca or Novavax, only few people waited for Pfizer. Things inside Clinicas and boates seem business as normal, no masks and definitely not distancing.

[QUOTE=MixedSalad07;2599810]Can anyone on the ground or w / recent knowledge speak to the vaccination status at the boates and clinicas?

Some of the GPS on twitter I've been in touch with either full or partially vaccinated. Not sure of what to expect at the venues. Not overly concerned but figured I'd ask.[/QUOTE]In São Paulo state, progress made in last few weeks. At least 60% has received one jab as per news and other sources. Currently, 25 years and older can get vaccinated and I am aware of younger getting vaccinated as well (e. G. The know who factor). Soon 18 to 24 will be able to get a vaccine. The one drawback is that time lapsed between first and second shot exceeds more than 10 weeks. Needless to say, what is important is that you are fully vaccinated.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2599730]Just like the stock market, where insider information is regularly traded among select individuals, in the super hot (model) market, information is similarly traded. You will not find this information on any public forum or message board. If a girl has a regular client base, she may step out from time to time when she just has to have a special pair of shoes, but she won't budge too far from her price. Again, she is making a decision about whether you are up to her standards, not so much the other way around. Contrary to the she is not worth it crowd's opinion, these women are definitely worth it and have been vetted. Also, getting on the list that contain the inside information on these girls is not easy.[/QUOTE]Exactly, those girls are called book Rosa. Some tv presenters, models, do escort on Brazil.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2599806]Did you mean 1000 real? Or did you actually pay her 1000 USD (5200 real equivalent). For 3 hours? If you did, I'm amazed she left instead of not letting you out of her sight.[/QUOTE]Oops. Yes. LOL mean to say reais.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2599734]Just got back from Rio. I'm now closer to believing SP is the city I prefer most. Although my stay in Rio was short, and value to be found there is crazy, I'm glad to be back in SP.

Just walked over to Enjoy and Abbobora, these two places have competed hard on lineups during my last 2 visits, man a lot of hot girls here. I ended up sessioning at Abbobora again, she was a cabello castao thick shorty light skin, she caught my eye even though many others were solid too. I got her number and she's willing to chill, and come to my hotel. I now have 2 prospects to bring over to my suite at the Renaissance, I got a pretty nice room to have some fun sex LOL.

My dilemma is, secure a pernoite with these girls or try Scandallo? Damn so many choices and not enough time. I'm about to eat some steak and head out to Enjoy again, I want another session before I decide my fate for later. I got two pops on the first one, but I'm not satisfied yet, this damn addiction!

I appreciate everyone's tips and ideas about Scandallo, I'm here until Saturday night and plan to splurge as much as my body allows me, this place is heaven gentlemen, specially on a day like today when the sun is out and I'm just casually walking around looking for pussy. I'll keep reporting.[/QUOTE]If you feel good about the girls then sure secure a per noite but damn do NOT skip Scandallo. You can find awesome girls all over the world. But there is only one Scandallo. It's about the experience as much as the girl. Go spend 1200 R there on drinks and a girl. Don't just grab and go. Go Thurs or Fri and spend 4-5 hours. Find a girl you dig and spend an hour or more before going to the room. Enjoy the vibe. Enjoy the buffet of girls. Enjoy your girl in the club. Do the three Ds (Drink Dance DFK). Then Enjoy your girl in the room. My advice. Don't skip it.

Was feeling bored so decided to check out Muchacho's Bar in Santo Amaro. Took one of the buses on Ibirapuera that stop within a 3 minute walk to the bar (Uber is about 24 real). Arrived at 10 PM. Two entry options: 10 real no drinks, 20 real two house drinks. Other drinks are much more expensive. Ask the price of what you want before you order it to avoid a nasty surprise. Sessions are 100 real for 30 minutes, 180 real for 60 minutes (down from 200 real before the pandemic).

Place was totally changed from the last time I went before the pandemic. Looked a lot flashier than before. They moved the second floor VIP area from the left side to the right side of the bar and re-did the bar. The downstairs VIP area is on the left side of the club and bigger than the non-VIP area. Apparently you need to buy the girl a drink or get bottle service to be allowed to enter the VIP area, entry to which is controlled by 2-3 guys. The VIP area was almost totally empty, so apparently not too many clients want to be VIPs, since they were all in the cheap charlie section. Asked about the live music they had on weekend nights before the pandemic. Was told it they weren't doing it now but would do it again soon.

Counted 23 girls, so could have been about 30 in total. About 40% of them were the hefty type, with maybe 3-4 marginally fuckable. Stayed about an hour and left. No real reason to return or recommend, although it might be better on a weekend night.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2599029]Was it an advertised promotion for everyone, or did they perhaps offer it to you personally as a "first time" enticement. Or accidentally give it to at payment time mistakenly thinking you were what is called a "forista" eligible for the forista discount, because those lower prices are the forista discount prices everyday.[/QUOTE]I saw the 180 R / HR on Gp-guia but I didn't know that was with the discount for foristas. The 290 R / HR for 2 girls I saw on their whatsapp status.

[QUOTE=Brsvv;2599693]So wanted to share my report from last week.

On Monday I setup an incall with a girl I saw in twitter. Readhead from Portoalegre (she goes by Ivy Mansur) and she was amazing. A bit pricey from other girls in twitter but definitely worth it.

On Wednesday I called one girl that I had met years ago from Bomboa and she is always willing to come visit me at the hotel. She said 1000 for 3 hours and it was just pure ecstasy. We always have good chemistry.

On Friday I decided to tour the boates. I went to Scandallo (my 1st time LOL) and I liked the place and all but it is expensive. The amount of girls was pretty good and the full nighclub area was open. I hung out with a girl I knew from Casarao and she told me they are indeed planning to open back in September.

I ended up leaving Scandallo and going to Bomboa. This is my 1st time back in there after they changed places. It does seem the place is smaller than their previous location. Talent was good. I found one redhead that caught my eye and decided to spend the night with her. It really helps knowing Portuguese and we hit it off. Really good chemistry and she was more than down to leave and go to my hotel. She stayed almost all night with me for 1000 dollars and she practically fucked me during those 3 hours LOL. She also did mention that Casarao was planning to open back up.[/QUOTE]I'm waiting for them to reopen too.

EB asked if I was going to find my unicorn at Scandallo, well I found her, sort of.

I arrived around 12:30, was hungry so went to the restaurant to have a sandwich. The girl quality was better than last time I was here, maybe one or two stunners, but it was looking from a distance, I need to check them out close to decide. LOL. I like the ambiance, the food, the drink so I am fine just to spend time here and not thinking I have to take a girl, otherwise I won't be here. Given the language barrier, I basically don't approach girl if I don't plan to take her.

It was around 3. There were a couple making out on the sofa under the stairs to the second floor. They have been at it for as long as I can remember. I went to sit on the sofa in front of the elevator. There was a Brazilian man with a fat belly with two girls also making out on the other end of the sofa. I saw his dick got hard and the girls taking turn fondling it. I was wondering which girl the Brazilian was going to pick. Would the loser make a scene? Haha. As it turned out, I think the man is a regular here and probably know the girls well. He eventually left without taking any girl. I wish I can enjoy it like he did. I decided that is going to be my screening process.

I was standing at the club area near the bathroom so I could check out the girls that I might have missed. One branca spinner approached me. I asked how much, she said 800, I smiled, and she automatically dropped to 500 but I really had no interest in her. Now the sofa under the stairs was free so I sat there people watching. There were two girls at the corner chatting with a guy. One morena spinner with big butt caught my attention. I waited for her to notice me to wave her over. Without asking, we started kissing, she wanted 500. I asked does she do BBBJ, she said yes before I spelled out all the words. Then she took her breasts out of her dress to show me. They were natural and I was sold, sold, sold. She is 18 so she probably haven't been in this business that long.

She proposed that we waited until the club closed and after she got her invitation for next day so I don't have to pay 250 to Scandallo. I asked if she knew a motel. She asked me to google it. I found a Copa motel that is a short distance away. There was no Copa motel when we arrived but we saw another motel on the far side of another street so we went there. It was a love motel but we don't have a car so we walked.

She had a carry on luggage with her the whole time. I guess the luggage probably contains all her belongings. I saw a few other girls with carry on luggage when leaving the club too. Once in the room, she turned the music on, and change into a sexy lingerie she had in her luggage while I was taking shower. Honestly, I was somewhat leery about my stuff. The reason is I had money stolen by a Filipina before while I was in the shower, so I am not feeling comfortable leaving my stuff out as I still need to have the money to pay her.

Her body proportion, the size of her butt and thigh amazes me. She did a strip show and gave me a very sloppy blow job with her saliva dripping all over me like I was some delicious food. LOL. She also sang alone with the music the whole time. I was amused at the whole scene and wasn't really concentrating on sex. We did many positions directed by her and I decided I had enough and finished and lying down to rest. Here is what I really like about Brasileira. She snuggled with me for a good while like it is not a business transaction at that moment, and pretty much did the same all the way on our way back to her Scandallo housing near Scandallo. It was around 7:30 when I got back to my apartment.

I spent 450 at the club. 500 for the girl and about 70 for the motel. That is under 1200, not too bad.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2600574]EB asked if I was going to find my unicorn at Scandallo, well I found her, sort of.

I arrived around 12:30, was hungry so went to the restaurant to have a sandwich. The girl quality was better than last time I was here, maybe one or two stunners, but it was looking from a distance, I need to check them out close to decide. LOL. I like the ambiance, the food, the drink so I am fine just to spend time here and not thinking I have to take a girl, otherwise I won't be here. Given the language barrier, I basically don't approach girl if I don't plan to take her.

It was around 3. There were a couple making out on the sofa under the stairs to the second floor. They have been at it for as long as I can remember. I went to sit on the sofa in front of the elevator. There was a Brazilian man with a fat belly with two girls also making out on the other end of the sofa. I saw his dick got hard and the girls taking turn fondling it. I was wondering which girl the Brazilian was going to pick. Would the loser make a scene? Haha. As it turned out, I think the man is a regular here and probably know the girls well. He eventually left without taking any girl. I wish I can enjoy it like he did. I decided that is going to be my screening process.

I was standing at the club area near the bathroom so I could check out the girls that I might have missed. One branca spinner approached me. I asked how much, she said 800, I smiled, and she automatically dropped to 500 but I really had no interest in her. Now the sofa under the stairs was free so I sat there people watching. There were two girls at the corner chatting with a guy. One morena spinner with big butt caught my attention. I waited for her to notice me to wave her over. Without asking, we started kissing, she wanted 500. I asked does she do BBBJ, she said yes before I spelled out all the words. Then she took her breasts out of her dress to show me. They were natural and I was sold, sold, sold. She is 18 so she probably haven't been in this business that long.

She proposed that we waited until the club closed and after she got her invitation for next day so I don't have to pay 250 to Scandallo. I asked if she knew a motel. She asked me to google it. I found a Copa motel that is a short distance away. There was no Copa motel when we arrived but we saw another motel on the far side of another street so we went there. It was a love motel but we don't have a car so we walked.

She had a carry on luggage with her the whole time. I guess the luggage probably contains all her belongings. I saw a few other girls with carry on luggage when leaving the club too. Once in the room, she turned the music on, and change into a sexy lingerie she had in her luggage while I was taking shower. Honestly, I was somewhat leery about my stuff. The reason is I had money stolen by a Filipina before while I was in the shower, so I am not feeling comfortable leaving my stuff out as I still need to have the money to pay her.

Her body proportion, the size of her butt and thigh amazes me. She did a strip show and gave me a very sloppy blow job with her saliva dripping all over me like I was some delicious food. LOL. She also sang alone with the music the whole time. I was amused at the whole scene and wasn't really concentrating on sex. We did many positions directed by her and I decided I had enough and finished and lying down to rest. Here is what I really like about Brasileira. She snuggled with me for a good while like it is not a business transaction at that moment, and pretty much did the same all the way on our way back to her Scandallo housing near Scandallo. It was around 7:30 when I got back to my apartment.

I spent 450 at the club. 500 for the girl and about 70 for the motel. That is under 1200, not too bad.[/QUOTE]Great report. Glad you had a nice time.

This is about what I'd be expecting to pay vs some recent reports closer to 1000. I know the pandemic has changed things, but am used to paying 400-600 at scandallo.

Anyway, sounds like you had a great experience. Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2600574]....She did a strip show and gave me a very sloppy blow job with her saliva dripping all over me like I was some delicious food. LOL. She also sang alone with the music the whole time. I was amused at the whole scene and wasn't really concentrating on sex. We did many positions directed by her and I decided I had enough and finished and lying down to rest. Here is what I really like about Brasileira. She snuggled with me for a good while like it is not a business transaction at that moment, and pretty much did the same all the way on our way back to her Scandallo housing near Scandallo. It was around 7:30 when I got back to my apartment.....[/QUOTE]That's the sort of performance a girl gives if she wants you to repeat with her. Depending on how she looks that'd work with me.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2600574]EB asked if I was going to find my unicorn at Scandallo, well I found her, sort of.

I spent 450 at the club. 500 for the girl and about 70 for the motel. That is under 1200, not too bad.[/QUOTE]I gave up around 3 am, so regretfully I stroke out in Scandallo in 3 tries. But having hung out with Nounce taught me something, his approach is to be very patient and knows his plan. Me, I spoke to some girls and got 3 quotes of 1000.00 around midnight, that dropped to 800.0 with negotiations, but didn't go for it since I never found someone I felt I had to have. Most of the good talent I saw was busy or seemed not interested. Maybe after going a couple of times and not doing a session girls talk amongst each other about clients? Who knows. Nevertheless, I've had a lot of fun with Scandallo being my only disappointment.

It's interesting about girls having a carry on with them around, another girl told me she stays nearby in a all girl housing, that she doesn't like it but it's temporary while she can get her own place. I speculate Scandallo offers them that or someone else, who knows what they expect in return.

Hey, some days ago I told about my plan with Brazil und now I am there. Yeah realllly fast. At the moment I am super tired from the flight und I must as next step organize a local simcard. Maybe I will go later to tangara, because it is not far away (I stay in the Pullman) but I am a little bit shy (first time in south america without spain or portuguese know how). Maybe someone else want to go arround together in the next days? At the moment is my focus on "try everything and find out what you like. ".

Maybe a good tip for someone: the atms of the bradesco prime bank doesnt want a extra fee if you need cash and it is just 10 min walk distance of the hotel.

[QUOTE=Dodochen;2600748]Hey, some days ago I told about my plan with Brazil und now I am there. Yeah realllly fast. At the moment I am super tired from the flight und I must as next step organize a local simcard. Maybe I will go later to tangara, because it is not far away (I stay in the Pullman) but I am a little bit shy (first time in south america without spain or portuguese know how). Maybe someone else want to go arround together in the next days? At the moment is my focus on "try everything and find out what you like. ".

Maybe a good tip for someone: the atms of the bradesco prime bank doesnt want a extra fee if you need cash and it is just 10 min walk distance of the hotel.[/QUOTE]So I stayed at Pullman also and Tangar definitely walkable. Be advised tho that it doesn't look anything like you expect. When u arrive at the address all you will see is a blue door in a stone wall with barb wire on top. This is it! Just ring the bell.

Also know that Tangar is not Abbobora. Pretty enough girls but the faculties are a bit Motel 6 not the Westin. Clean enough but don't expect luxe. Will be a good experience as long as you set your expectations.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2600574]EB asked if I was going to find my unicorn at Scandallo, well I found her, sort of.

I arrived around 12:30, was hungry so went to the restaurant to have a sandwich. The girl quality was better than last time I was here, maybe one or two stunners, but it was looking from a distance, I need to check them out close to decide. LOL. I like the ambiance, the food, the drink so I am fine just to spend time here and not thinking I have to take a girl, otherwise I won't be here. Given the language barrier, I basically don't approach girl if I don't plan to take her.

It was around 3. There were a couple making out on the sofa under the stairs to the second floor. They have been at it for as long as I can remember. I went to sit on the sofa in front of the elevator. There was a Brazilian man with a fat belly with two girls also making out on the other end of the sofa. I saw his dick got hard and the girls taking turn fondling it. I was wondering which girl the Brazilian was going to pick. Would the loser make a scene? Haha. As it turned out, I think the man is a regular here and probably know the girls well. He eventually left without taking any girl. I wish I can enjoy it like he did. I decided that is going to be my screening process.
[/QUOTE]Perhaps many girls were with their carry-on luggage because it is a long weekend and most people left to take advantage of a 4 day weekend. Girls would leave the club directly to the airport or bus station to travel.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2600763]So I stayed at Pullman also and Tangar definitely walkable. Be advised tho that it doesn't look anything like you expect. When u arrive at the address all you will see is a blue door in a stone wall with barb wire on top. This is it! Just ring the bell.

Also know that Tangar is not Abbobora. Pretty enough girls but the faculties are a bit Motel 6 not the Westin. Clean enough but don't expect luxe. Will be a good experience as long as you set your expectations.[/QUOTE]Thank you bro, I making some love in Uganda, that is not a big problem for me with facility. I was there. One hour ago for exactly two min. The reason: SSSSOOO many guys inside. I saw one girl in bikini and nearly 30 guys everywhere waiting for „I don't know" not the right place for a first experience in a clinica. Maybe I don't understand the clinica conzept but there was a bar and a outside area where the most people stay.

It was not necessary to ring the bell, because there are always someone going in and out.

But maybe is Saturday evening a wrong day. Maybe I will try first a not so crowded place.

[QUOTE=Dodochen;2600843]Thank you bro, I making some love in Uganda, that is not a big problem for me with facility. I was there. One hour ago for exactly two min. The reason: SSSSOOO many guys inside. I saw one girl in bikini and nearly 30 guys everywhere waiting for I don't know" not the right place for a first experience in a clinica. Maybe I don't understand the clinica conzept but there was a bar and a outside area where the most people stay.

It was not necessary to ring the bell, because there are always someone going in and out.

But maybe is Saturday evening a wrong day. Maybe I will try first a not so crowded place.[/QUOTE]What's your budget? Tangar is cheap but Abbobora is a ton better for facilities and girls. Go there if you want a better experience. There are some threads below where guys discuss other options similar to Abbobora but I don't know them firsthand.

[QUOTE=GigiBuffon;2600779]Perhaps many girls were with their carry-on luggage because it is a long weekend and most people left to take advantage of a 4 day weekend. Girls would leave the club directly to the airport or bus station to travel.[/QUOTE]The girl I was with went back to the Scandallo apartment. I guess it is because there is no storage locker in the club housing so they carry it with them wherever they go.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2600939]The girl I was with went back to the Scandallo apartment. I guess it is because there is no storage locker in the club housing so they carry it with them wherever they go.[/QUOTE]Yea, if it's anything like a hostel environment, I'd definitely carry my shit around with me, too.

I'm now sitting in the airport in the US, sad but satisfied about my trip. I'll post a longer report with final comments.

Yesterday, prior to my departure, we met up with 2 other ISG members, Nounce and Lalabo at Scandallo around 5 pm, my plan was to give it a one more try before my 10:50 pm flight back to the US. I arrived and went to grad some quick food and a drink. I only had 1.5 hours to find a girl and take her to the room, since I had to go back to my hotel to check out and leave. They stayed after I left, and from what I hear had an awesome time.

I sat to grab some quick food and drink, when I did this girl sitting next to me talked to me about the free buffet and how it was good, and free! So I ordered a drink and grab some good food, I'm not sure if this free food deal happens daily, but considering entrance was only 250.00 with 200 consumable I think it's a great deal. You can also re-enter later for free, so you can come in and scoop the girls out from the first shift, then at 6 pm I believe the next shift starts and then at 9 pm according to a girl I spoke to.

There were about 30 girls, and not many men. Talent was good, I spotted at least 5 girls I would like to bang. I took my drink to the outside patio and sat. In comes a young girl wearing a little skirt, branca with all natural body and a pretty face, she looked like a doll. I waved her over, and got her a drink. I told her I was leaving in a few hours and wanted some fun. She was hot in my book, like I had to bang her hot. We started go talk about my needs and she said the right things, then came the price. She started at 1500.00, but quickly dropped to 1000.00, still I wanted to pay 600-800 max. She said only "feas" offer lower than 1000.00, I said infelizmente I can only do 800 max. I could've walked away, but I really wanted to bang her, my duck was hard and no other girl got me excited the prior attempts here, and lastly my time was ticking. Finally she agreed to 800.00 and off we went upstairs to the hotel. The session was ok, not the blow your mind type, but damn she was hot. She was from Porto Alegre, goes by Gabriela and has nice see cups with beautiful pink nipples, not a blemish in her 22 year old body and a delicious pussy. She fucked ok but took direction and because she was high maintenance and stuck up and made it a point to hit her as hard as I could when doing doggie, she had an orgasm there and later I did too. The aftermath was a little disappointing, she talked about wanting to find a man to take care of her, and she brought up the fact that I didn't want to pay her the 1000.00, so I have a feeling her performance was tied to the wage. She needs to be trained, but asked me for my number for when I come back she said.

After I came downstairs and saw even more talent, I met Nounce at a table and saw another girl that had a pretty smile and started talking to her, she started her bid at 700.00, so I think she could've been brought down to 500.00 easy. Nounce I believe got one to come down to that, he'll chime in later I'm sure.

Another benefit of showing up early is daylight, I could really distinguish the pretty ones from the make up queens. I would've done another girl if time wasn't an issue, I finally got the hint how to work things out, in my case lay out what you want sometime during the early part of the conversation to set expectations, check for chemistry and requirements, make an offer, negotiate and score or move on to the next one. It took me 4 tries but I left pleased I finally got it.

Overall I'm happy with Scandallo, I appreciate all the members that have chimed in with advice, and I will definitely be back to Scandallo in the near future. The hotel room was fine BTW, clean and nice IMO. 230.00 for 1 hour. I realize I paid north of 1000.00 for the fuck, but I don't mind paying for what I like and want. I had a great time in the end!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2600886]What's your budget? Tangar is cheap but Abbobora is a ton better for facilities and girls. Go there if you want a better experience. There are some threads below where guys discuss other options similar to Abbobora but I don't know them firsthand.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip. The truth is: I have no budget, if I like something to try and I think the value for the price is ok, then perfect! But generaly most important for me is that i like the optic of the girl. Young and natural, thin or normal is that what i looking for. So yes I will go to scandalo in the next days, too. But today is Sunday and Abobora and many other clinicas are closed.

But I make my first step in the morning with photoacompanhantes, and yes it was like the storys here. Fake profil organized from am pimp in the background. I go to the place of the girl which was 15 min to walk. It was a basic house with basic stuff. The girl was very very friendly. It was a other girl, I will describe this girl as average and 25 years. Not to bad and I want a girl. The session was not great. 10 min massage, 3 min CBJ and 15 min sex. But she was really very friendly and ask many with the help of google translate. Price was 160 R.

I found out that it is harder to pay cash in sao paulo as with credit card. Normaly I go just out with cash.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601042]

Scandallo late afternoon try. Success!
[/QUOTE]Very nice report, EB. I am glad you had a successful night at Scandallo.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601042]
They stayed after I left, and from what I hear had an awesome time.
[/QUOTE]It was nice to meet you and Nounce. Nounce had better time than me. I happen to go with the same girl he had good time with but she ended up being a drama queen and a mood killer. Her name is Luana, a petite blonde. During interview she agreed to do everything except anal. She was ok with finger in her pussy and ass.

Troubles started right from the moment we entered the room. She had trouble switching lights on and she had to call someone to get that sorted out. As I was about to take shower she turned off the shower area lights. She turned it back again but turned them off again few moments later. That wasn't happy with her playing with the switch board. It took few more minutes to get the lights back on. At lease 15 minutes gone by the time both of us showered.

After all that, we started fun activities. She has nice set of boobs I enjoyed playing with. She didn't allow me to touch her pussy because she had surgery. Nounce did mention the surgery part but thought it was in some other part of her body never thought that is is in her pussy. She didn't let me eat for the same reason. She said her pussy is good for fucking and not for eating and touch. Maybe some of the gynecologists on this board can explain what sort of pussy surgery that makes pussy ok for fucking but not for other activities. Anyway she left me with no choice but to divert my focus to her ass. Not even an inch of my finger went into her ass she started moving away saying it hurts. I told her I was doing I as slowly a I could, so she allowed another attempt but with same reaction from her. That pissed me off. I got up and started dressing. She begged me to come back to try again but I have decided to take the issue to then management.

We had a long and intense legal battle with argument and counter arguments before bunch folks that were there to adjudicate the case.It all came down to how far up her ass my finger penitrated and who do you believe. Final verdict was that I pay for the room and half of agreed upon price just because I put a finger up Luana's ass. I guess they would have let me walk away without paying anything had I not put a finger up her ass.

PS: I forgot to bring my iPad. It is hard to type on small mobile phones.

I spent 10 days in Brazil, 7 in SP and 3 in Rio. This was my first time in Brazil.

My favorite city is SP. I'll provide my final observations here, I've already covered my thoughts on Rio in the Rio Thread.

Arrival / Departure.

I arrived early at the airport, easy to go through customs and was out calling UBER by 8 am. I made a mistake using UBER Black, the price you see booking is just an estimate, but if the driver takes a longer route more cost is added. My driver took advantage of this and my trip was close to 200.00 Reals, a rip off if you ask me. UBER X is all you need, even if you get a cancellation here and there, even at 3 am out of Scandallo, I had no problem getting a ride. My departing flight was close to midnight, arriving 2 hours prior was more than enough time for me. I got my COVID test at Drogaria Raia near the Renaissance hotel.

Hotel.

I stayed at the Renaissance, which was a perfect area for me. Moema would be nice too since it's close to the mall and all Clinicas are within walking distance. I prefer the Renaissance, no airport noise, a little more upscale and plenty of places to buy basic items nearby, restaurants too if you are into fancy eating. I brought girls here and never had issues. I will continue to stay here if possible.

Daytime fun.

Clinicas / Online Escorts.

• Prime: Receptionist can be a little grumpy but she's cool once you go once or twice. I only sessioned here once, my first day. Lua was great, but other days I came the lineup never motivated me to try someone, the room is okay but not as nice as other Clinicas. Cost was 240 Reals an hour, I believe 180 the half hour.

• Abbobora: Receptionist was friendly. I sessioned here twice, Julia and Beatriz were great. Really good lineup, many other girls I would session with here, but not enough time. Very nice place, rooms are more modern and overall I rate this place tied for best with Enjoy. Cost is 260 Reals for an hour, if paying cash = 150 to the girl, 110 to the Clinica. If paying card it's 130 to the Clinica.

I actually brought Julia over the hotel for a pernoite for 500 reals, she fucks good, but only took half my dick in during anal LOL. I wouldn't repeat the pernoite, just at the clinica. Beatriz was a shorty with light skin and nice thick legs and ass. Really pretty face, I got her number but no more time during this trip.

• Enjoy Spa: Receptionists are very friendly, and one of them has a fit body, I would definitely bang her if she was available LOL. I sessioned here twice, Paola and Amanda were the best sessions I had in Clinicas. Paola is a fit spinner, very affectionate and wonderful smile, she would not stop until I popped twice. I got her number and hope to see her on my next trip. Now, Amanda was the best, she's a branca cabello castano with delicious natural tits, we kissed with passion and really hit it off. She got 2 pops from me too. The phone rang twice and we still kept kissing non stop, until she finally picked up and said reluctantly yes we are coming out ok ok. I got her number too, just didn't have time to see her again. This place is also very nice and modern, on par with Abbobora. Cost was 250 Reals an hour.

• 57 House: I stopped by once on a Saturday, no girls available but the place looks like a daytime club to hang out, eat and fuck a girl. With more time I would come back. Not sure on cost and rooms since I didn't session.

• Mirunas: Friendly receptionist, okay lineup but didn't session here. The place looks good, just not sure on the rooms and cost.

• Carinas: Receptionist is friendly, but this is the only place I had a bad session at in Brazil. This is the place they show you girls on a tablet, and I should have ran away, but one of the girls had English speaking as a feature, and looked good so I said why not. Well usually English speaking means traveled, which means she has picked up habits from the US, like for example during session she comes up with BBBJ is 50 Reals extra, and suggested that I'm used to paying extra in the US anyways, WTF. Then when fucking (I had to make an effort), she said don't suck my tits too hard because they're implants. I closed my eyes, fucked as fast as I could and popped at the 30 min mark. I rushed to shower and started dressing, she noticed and started dressing too, she said twice, take my number so we can meet outside of here, I was like yeah right. I paid her and left disappointed. Oh well. Her name was Rafaella BTW. Stay away. Cost was 270 Reals for an hour, not worth it even though rooms are nice and clean.

Online Girls (in order of ranking).

• Debora Tavares (Private55 and Twitter at DeboraT38292918). Easy setup over WhatsApp. OMG. If you like girls with nice tattoos, big ass and tits, beautiful face, branca and great attitude this girl is the best. I repeated with her, she's a tornado and will fuck you like no other. She's like a pornstar, on my first session while fucking hard she pulled my dick out, took out the condom and made me finish in her mouth. Then after messing around got me hard again, got her ass ready and off we go with anal sex. On my second session, she made me finish in her ass. If only she let me BBFS, she would be absolutely the best for me. Maybe in the future, who knows. Cost was 600 Reals and hour, worth it.

• Anna Seitz (Private55). A little complicated to setup a date over WhatsApp, it actually took me a week, and was ghosted once, but she came through in the end. I had her come over to my hotel for 2 hours, but ended up staying over 4 hours. She is tall, about 5'9" without heels, branca cabello castano and huge tits, huge ass and just a thick girl. She loves to get her ass eaten, I must have spend a whole hour eating it, and her tits sucked too. She's amazing, we kissed a lot, fucked a lot and just had a blast. She loves anal sex too, she asked me many times if I liked fucking her big ass. If I had met this girl on the first days I would've repeated, her face is not as pretty as Debora, but man she's sooooo thick and tall. Cost was 500 Reals an hour, and we had only agreed for 2 but stayed for over 4 and close to 5 hours, so I gave her 1500 Reals, worth it again.

• Pamela Shurtz (Clubmodel and Twitter). See my prior report, I would definitely repeat with her anytime. 500 Reals an hour. No anal available.

• Mel Morena (Twitter). See my prior report, big ass morena clara. Very nice woman, I would repeat. 350 Reals an hour with Anal included.

• Michelly Gaucha (at michellygaucha). Easy setup over WhatsApp and nice lady, MILF type, around mid 30's but very fit and strong ass, legs and abs. She does a nice massage, great hand job / BBBJ with oils that almost made me pop, and a nice fuck. No anal available, 500 Reals an hour. Worth it if you like MILFs. I won't repeat.

• Gabriela Ferraz (at FerrazGabi28). See my prior reports, nice lady with a good ass, but her face wasn't hot enough for me, still a good fuck though. 400 Reals an hour, 100 extra for anal.

Clubs.

Scandallo: I went 4 times, sessioned once. I will continue going on my next trip. It was hard for me to find a girl I liked at peak times, I noticed a lot of guys were in at those times, so for me its better either earlier or at later hours to allow a better selection process.

Overall observations.

I loved SP. The more time I spent there the language issue became less important, at times I was having good conversations with girls and people overall, understanding became easier and since I'm fluent in Spanish it also became easier to talk. Still, learning proper Portuguese is such a huge advantage during negotiations and such, that I will consider proper learning in the future.

Some days I saw 2-3 girls, and tried to limit my pops to once a session, but some girls like Debora and Anna got multiple from me, which led me to be satisfied by the time I arrived at Scandallo, pacing myself would've been better, but I couldn't help myself, so I resorted to vitamin see in order to maintain the daily regime, and now that I'm in the US I have no clue what I'll do LOL. FML. If you are spending weeks or months there, I'm sure you could pace yourself more, unlike my regime.

Budget I had none, and even then I didn't spend as much as I thought I would. I really think that my reluctance to pay more at Scandallo came from reading prior reports, but honestly even if you pay 800-1000 a session it's still cheaper than many US escorts. Worth it in my books, so maybe next time I'll be more aggressive.

Cell phone I used GoogleFi, and never had to bother looking for SIM card.

Food, sorry I only went to Fogo De Chao and Marguerita Pizzeria, so I'm not the guy to ask for food recommendations, I came to Brazil to monger as much as I could after all LOL. I did like the sushi from the hotel a lot though.

Lastly, Safety. This might be a controversial topic, but IMO all the negative comments and people wearing crazy pants to hide money and such is so overblown. At no point in my trip I felt unsafe, I walked around in plenty of places, daytime mostly, and around my hotel at nighttime too and I never felt unsafe, ever. I've been to Mexico and even El Salvador before, and this was even better than that. Even in Rio, I never felt threatened. I did leave my expensive watch and chain at home, but other than that I carried cash and my credit card with me, I pulled out my cell phone to check maps and such, paid attention to where I'm going and had no issues.

That's all from me for now, until next time. I hope to be back soon. Thanks for reading!

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2601182]Very nice report, EB. I am glad you had a successful night at Scandallo.

It was nice to meet you and Nounce. Nounce had better time than me. I happen to go with the same girl he had good time with but she ended up being a drama queen and a mood killer. Her name is Luana, a petite blonde. During interview she agreed to do everything except anal. She was ok with finger in her pussy and ass.

Troubles started right from the moment we entered the room. She had trouble switching lights on and she had to call someone to get that sorted out. As I was about to take shower she turned off the shower area lights. She turned it back again but turned them off again few moments later. That wasn't happy with her playing with the switch board. It took few more minutes to get the lights back on. At lease 15 minutes gone by the time both of us showered.

After all that, we started fun activities. She has nice set of boobs I enjoyed playing with. She didn't allow me to touch her pussy because she had surgery. Nounce did mention the surgery part but thought it was in some other part of her body never thought that is is in her pussy. She didn't let me eat for the same reason. She said her pussy is good for fucking and not for eating and touch. Maybe some of the gynecologists on this board can explain what sort of pussy surgery that makes pussy ok for fucking but not for other activities. Anyway she left me with no choice but to divert my focus to her ass. Not even an inch of my finger went into her ass she started moving away saying it hurts. I told her I was doing I as slowly a I could, so she allowed another attempt but with same reaction from her. That pissed me off.[/QUOTE]Wow. I take back what I said then, that is an awful experience to have. Maybe she meant to say Nounce left her pussy sore? LOL JK. The whole lights ordeal, then having to get management involved sounds like a nightmare. I hate how things are so YMMV with girls, even though you did your due diligence asking prior, they can still come up with excuses hoping you won't raise an issue. I never met anyone that had pussy surgery before, what did It look like?

It was good to meet you guys, hopefully we can do it again, this time with better success for all 3 of us.

Aren't you guys overpaying in scandallo?

Aren't website escorts cheaper?

I mean, 1200 reais or even more. Even if the real has great value, it's just overkill. Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2601182]Nounce did mention the surgery part but thought it was in some other part of her body never thought that is is in her pussy. She didn't let me eat for the same reason. She said her pussy is good for fucking and not for eating and touch. Maybe some of the gynecologists on this board can explain what sort of pussy surgery that makes pussy ok for fucking but not for other activities. Anyway she left me with no choice but to divert my focus to her ass. Not even an inch of my finger went into her ass she started moving away saying it hurts. I told her I was doing I as slowly a I could, so she allowed another attempt but with same reaction from her. That pissed me.[/QUOTE]LOL surgery like recently sex change surgery? Hahahaha. If I meet a girl with that kind of attitude, I would have walked out of the door right away, she won't be getting any money. This is not a FKK.

[QUOTE=Dodochen;2601138]Thanks for the tip. The truth is: I have no budget, if I like something to try and I think the value for the price is ok, then perfect! But generaly most important for me is that i like the optic of the girl. Young and natural, thin or normal is that what i looking for. So yes I will go to scandalo in the next days, too. But today is Sunday and Abobora and many other clinicas are closed.

But I make my first step in the morning with photoacompanhantes, and yes it was like the storys here. Fake profil organized from am pimp in the background. I go to the place of the girl which was 15 min to walk. It was a basic house with basic stuff. The girl was very very friendly. It was a other girl, I will describe this girl as average and 25 years. Not to bad and I want a girl. The session was not great. 10 min massage, 3 min CBJ and 15 min sex. But she was really very friendly and ask many with the help of google translate. Price was 160 R.

I found out that it is harder to pay cash in sao paulo as with credit card. Normaly I go just out with cash.[/QUOTE]If you are staying another Sunday. Prime, Miruna, Indy, enjoy and Tangara clinicas are open on Sunday. The up lines are smaller than weekdays usually, though prime sometimes can have a full lineup. Freelancers can show up at Tangara and prime also on Sundays. Sunday's are also good for getting scandallo girls to go to your hotel or flat.

For online girls, try Mclass, Private55, and Clubmodel. That's more expensive 400-500 average but the girls are almost always real. Though more money doesn't buy superior service though. The way I have used Photo is just look at girls with TD verified filter with seasoned reviewers. Those girls are real. Looking at photo without a filter is asking for a fake, a model shoot girl is not going to have you to fuck her ass for 100 r.

The credit card surprised me also. SP is very similar to the big Asian cities. Besides the girls, you can go completely cashless in SP. Actually all the clinicas and scandallo will allow you to used credit for the girls with a small fee.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2601182]We had a long and intense legal battle with argument and counter arguments before bunch folks that were there to adjudicate the case.It all came down to how far up her ass my finger penitrated and who do you believe.[/QUOTE]It's awful you had this experience but man I'the be lying if I didn't admit that I got a chuckle out of this part LOL.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2601182]
We had a long and intense legal battle with argument and counter arguments before bunch folks that were there to adjudicate the case.It all came down to how far up her ass my finger penitrated and who do you believe. Final verdict was that I pay for the room and half of agreed upon price just because I put a finger up Luana's ass. I guess they would have let me walk away without paying anything had I not put a finger up her ass.

PS: I forgot to bring my iPad. It is hard to type on small mobile phones.[/QUOTE]Sorry about your misfortune, but at least we all got a chuckle out of it.

You at least deserved a verdict from a jury of your peers. As we inspected the evidence and asked deeply probing questions on the depth of your penetration and such cardinal details before a proper adjudication can be rendered.

On a more serious note, this sadly is probably unavoidable and I doubt there is a monger that hasn't faced some variation of this in their time. Just keep in perspective and move on. For most of us, it's a non event. And you better believe if she does this a few times she will be out. That is the sad part, most mangers don't even do what you did, they just pay and move on.

Great details, names, descriptions and prices! I love it. I'll definitely reference this report on my next visit.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601191]I spent 10 days in Brazil, 7 in SP and 3 in Rio. This was my first time in Brazil.

My favorite city is SP. I'll provide my final observations here, I've already covered my thoughts on Rio in the Rio Thread.
That's all from me for now, until next time. I hope to be back soon. Thanks for reading![/QUOTE]

It's great that guys are sharing their experiences. Here are some mine and I can confirmed these girls and pics are real. Though I am sad that 2 of my favorites closed their accounts and left SP. Some of good ones are just in SP for a few months to make money. Twitter handles. I would recommend any of them if they are your type.

At LunaSexxxxx. Says she is 19. Very cute But looks younger. A little inexperienced but did everything GFE. 150 r / hour At motel.

At Hanayokawa. Japanese Mixed. Tall and Fetish queen. She has a list of fetish and you can pick one for free. I am very square so I picked anal. Very GFE but no CIM. Her location is her actual apartment. 300 r / HR if you follow her on Twitter. If not 350 r.

At isanakamuragp3. Japanese mixed. Speaks great English and travelled to the states. Very pretty face. She has silicone breast which are good but I prefer natural. Kissed but CBJ. 300 r / HR at motel.

At NinaLovelace8. Amazing GFE. One of best session I had in SP. She is a little more schoolgirl look than her twitter pics but it's her. 300 r / HR at motel.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2601182] Nounce did mention the surgery part but thought it was in some other part of her body never thought that is is in her pussy. She didn't let me eat for the same reason. She said her pussy is good for fucking and not for eating and touch. [/QUOTE]Based on our earlier conversation, I thought you were going to ask her to visit you in hotel, and not right away. That is why I did not tell you the detail in front of her when we met at the register area. I was going to text you telling you detail about her surgery.

After talking to her and knowing her price in the restaurant, I did what Steve suggested, The outdoor area opened so we settled on the sofa under the stairs and just made out there like two high school kids. That is where we discussed about what she likes during sex and was told about the surgery.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2599841] Find a girl you dig and spend an hour or more before going to the room. Enjoy the vibe. Enjoy the buffet of girls. Enjoy your girl in the club. Do the three Ds (Drink Dance DFK). Then Enjoy your girl in the room. My advice. Don't skip it.[/QUOTE]I don't know why she needed a cosmetic surgery there. When I asked about DATY while we were on the sofa, she mentioned medico (doctor) repeatedly trying to explain to me before going into the room. She also showed me the pictures of her doctors and there were two of them. I didn't care that much at that time so it was not a problem for me. I had a regular in Thailand and she did not allow me to suck her breast before the implants stabilized after she had implants. I was thinking it was similar situation. Now I think I will ask her about the surgery more next time if I meet her again.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601191]• Mirunas: Friendly receptionist, okay lineup but didn't session here. The place looks good, just not sure on the rooms and cost.[/QUOTE]I have been here twice and it has the largest line up on Sunday. The rooms I was in are fine but the bed probably can have a new futon or mattress. Prime probably is too popular so it has rarely worked out for me.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601042]Another benefit of showing up early is daylight, I could really distinguish the pretty ones from the make up queens. I would've done another girl if time wasn't an issue, I finally got the hint how to work things out, in my case lay out what you want sometime during the early part of the conversation to set expectations, check for chemistry and requirements, make an offer, negotiate and score or move on to the next one. It took me 4 tries but I left pleased I finally got it.
[/QUOTE]We were discussing this. I think it is worth while to make a detour to the club at daytime. There are less number of girls but there are also less competitions. The girl quality is not bad and you can see everyone clearly because only a smaller area is open. If you don't see anything you like, leave then come back at night time.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601191]I spent 10 days in Brazil, 7 in SP and 3 in Rio. This was my first time in Brazil.

[b]Cell phone I used GoogleFi, and never had to bother looking for SIM card.[/b][/QUOTE]Nice report thanks for sharing! Good advice and solution to not hunting for SIM Cards.

[QUOTE=Ptgbac;2601206]Aren't you guys overpaying in scandallo?

Aren't website escorts cheaper?

I mean, 1200 reais or even more. Even if the real has great value, it's just overkill. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]Based on my observation, I think the new standard price is 800 if you don't negotiate. When they quote higher, often you can still get many of them down to 800. Then you also have to factor in the girl has to pay the club to get in. I think the girls consider gringo a valuable commodity because some of them talk about inflation and how strong dollar is. Even if you don't approach them, some will approach you if you position yourself at the right place. I got several phone numbers a night simply sitting on the sofa and I did not even ask for the numbers. When Lalabo was sitting next to me, he was approached by 2 girls and I got none. Lesson learned, don't sit next to Lalabo when you want girl to approach you. They will do this because some want clients outside of the club. This is based on my limited experience.

In clinicas, you go in, pick a girl, fuck for an hour for a fixed rate but you don't socialize with the girls or get GFE outside of that. Boates work differently so you need to adjust your method. You can occupy a girl the whole night and have a no intercourse GFE experience for 1200 or less in the club but it is true that you can only have sex for one hour unless you negotiate. It is expensive but you don't get waiters badgering you to order drink and that provides a more comfortable environment. So it depends how you want to spend your time and money.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601191]I spent 10 days in Brazil, 7 in SP and 3 in Rio. This was my first time in Brazil.

My favorite city is SP. I'll provide my final observations here, I've already covered my thoughts on Rio in the Rio Thread.

[/QUOTE]Great very detailed report, EB. Looks like you had great success with clinicas, boetes as well as online.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601191]

Prime: Receptionist can be a little grumpy but she's cool once you go once or twice. I only sessioned here once, my first day. Lua was great, but other days I came the lineup never motivated me to try someone, the room is okay but not as nice as other Clinicas. Cost was 240 Reals an hour, I believe 180 the half hour.


Mirunas: Friendly receptionist, okay lineup but didn't session here. The place looks good, just not sure on the rooms and cost.
[/QUOTE]Prime is my go to clinica. I always had good experience. The receptionist (s) never pressured me to pick a girl however long I waited unlike the receptionist at Abbobora.

I went to Maruna yesterday and it has the biggest lounge with lots of seating. The pricing is similar to Prime.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601194]
Maybe she meant to say Nounce left her pussy sore? LOL JK. .[/QUOTE]LOL.

It might have been the case now that I think about it. Damn you, Nounce. LOL. She made up that elaborate story as a cover.

[QUOTE=Nuupter;2601213]LOL surgery like recently sex change surgery? Hahahaha. If I meet a girl with that kind of attitude, I would have walked out of the door right away, she won't be getting any money. This is not a FKK.[/QUOTE]I wish it is as easy. She actually blocked the door so I don't get out without paying her. I had to call reception to get security over.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2601303]Based on my observation, I think the new standard price is 800 if you don't negotiate. When they quote higher, often you can still get many of them down to 800. Then you also have to factor in the girl has to pay the club to get in. I think the girls consider gringo a valuable commodity because some of them talk about inflation and how strong dollar is. Even if you don't approach them, some will approach you if you position yourself at the right place. I got several phone numbers a night simply sitting on the sofa and I did not even ask for the numbers. When Lalabo was sitting next to me, he was approached by 2 girls and I got none. Lesson learned, don't sit next to Lalabo when you want girl to approach you. They will do this because some want clients outside of the club. This is based on my limited experience.

In clinicas, you go in, pick a girl, fuck for an hour for a fixed rate but you don't socialize with the girls or get GFE outside of that. Boates work differently so you need to adjust your method. You can occupy a girl the whole night and have a no intercourse GFE experience for 1200 or less in the club but it is true that you can only have sex for one hour unless you negotiate. It is expensive but you don't get waiters badgering you to order drink and that provides a more comfortable environment. So it depends how you want to spend your time and money.[/QUOTE]I understand that. But for the fucking itself, the girl is more in a hurry to come down from the from and pick another guy. I was not comparing boates but to web escort, not photo acomoanhantes off course, but something more high end. Seems 500 are per hour for high end web escort.

But I got you, Regarding the whole GFE thing in Scandallo. And you can't beat a Brazilian girl on that. Sometimes it's more pleasant the pre situation Itself, than the sex itself.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2601182]...We had a long and intense legal battle with argument and counter arguments before bunch folks that were there to adjudicate the case.It all came down to how far up her ass my finger penitrated and who do you believe....[/QUOTE]You: it was only 1/2 inch.

She: it was a full inch.

Management: ok 3/4 inch. Pay 1/2 agreed amount, next case.

[QUOTE=Ptgbac;2601402]I understand that. But for the fucking itself, the girl is more in a hurry to come down from the from and pick another guy. I was not comparing boates but to web escort, not photo acomoanhantes off course, but something more high end. Seems 500 are per hour for high end web escort.

But I got you, Regarding the whole GFE thing in Scandallo. And you can't beat a Brazilian girl on that. Sometimes it's more pleasant the pre situation Itself, than the sex itself.[/QUOTE]I did more online girls than Scandallo girls, and yes it was cheaper. The difference is with online girls you can't see and sample the goodies prior, but with due diligence from GP Guía and by their messages on WhatsApp you can tell if she'll be a good or bad fuck, or at least increase your chances.

But at Scandallo you have the chance to score a girl with less mileage on her, possible new comer and get her on your rotation for possibly less than online girls, which tend to be more business oriented, although in my experience I can think about 2 that want me as a regular and could possibly work some arrangement too.

Plenty of options, just not enough time and bullets in the chamber.

I omitted some details that I thought might be valuable to others visiting on their first time. Another member messaged me about these, so I thought I'd post it.

Cash / Credit Card.

I don't see the need to pull cash at the airport. I pulled several times from Bradesco (no fee) and Santander (20 Reals fee) ATMs around the Moema and Jardin Paulista area without issue. For Bradesco it limit me at $1250 per transaction, but I exited and enter my card again and was able to pull another $1250 right away. I think the bigger issue is some ATM machines don't give you an option to select how you want the note denominations, and you end up with a big stack of 50's, this prompt was hit & miss for me, I even saw an option for a 200 Real note one time, but not the other.

As far as Credit card usage, SP accepts credit card everywhere, and I had zero issues. In fact, they are accepted at Clinicas for a small fee, and at Scandallo. However, at Scandallo you can pay your final bill, and the room for the session without a fee, but if you want to pay the fee for the girl with credit you can do this once you finish the session at the hotel and you'll pay a 10% fee. The lady will ask the working girl what the fee she's charging is, and then they will confirm with you if you are ok paying that plus the 10% fee. I did this because I had no more cash at the end and was heading to the airport right after. Just FYI you can use credit.

ID / Passport.

I carried with me a copy of both in my back pocket. At Scandallo the copy of my ID was sufficient, even if it was an expired ID (I noticed I took the wrong copy after LOL). At some apartments when checking in to see an online girl for incall, they asked me for my passport to let me in. I had no problems with either one.

Condoms.

I got no BBFS, but I was able to use the Sagami's I took with me with every girl I remembered to bring some with and during my pernoites too. Funny thing, during one of the sessions I was really trying to get BBFS, got only half way there then got rejected, so out comes the Sagami. After some hard action while doing K9 I finally decide to switch positions and what do you know, the condom had broke for awhile so I had been barebacking her anyways LOL. She had no issue and she just pulled out one of hers and continued by impaling herself next LOL. On the second round I had got all the way in while bareback but the damn room service knocked at the door with some wine and food ordered, talk about cock blocking LOL. Anyways, bring your condoms if you care about this, some girls carry some heavy duty shit that kills the feeling.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2601250]Just keep in perspective and move on. For most of us, it's a non event. And you better believe if she does this a few times she will be out. That is the sad part, most mangers don't even do what you did, they just pay and move on.[/QUOTE]The problem with staying quiet and moving on is that you are encouraging girls to continue their ways.

How can management get rid of bad apples if customers don't inform them of bad service?

I have no illusions that management would side with customers in these situations unless you are someone who frequents the place quite regularly and spends obscene amount of money. If the management has standards and care about reputation then they will get rid of girls after 2 or 3 strikes.

I post reports about shitty service because I think they are as valuable if not more valuable than positive reports. I also hope these sort of reports encourage others to share such experiences.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601042]

Another benefit of showing up early is daylight, I could really distinguish the pretty ones from the make up queens. I would've done another girl if time wasn't an issue, I finally got the hint how to work things out, in my case lay out what you want sometime during the early part of the conversation to set expectations, check for chemistry and requirements, make an offer, negotiate and score or move on to the next one. It took me 4 tries but I left pleased I finally got it.

Overall I'm happy with Scandallo, I appreciate all the members that have chimed in with advice, and I will definitely be back to Scandallo in the near future. The hotel room was fine BTW, clean and nice IMO. 230.00 for 1 hour. I realize I paid north of 1000.00 for the fuck, but I don't mind paying for what I like and want. I had a great time in the end![/QUOTE]Great report. I can't wait to go back now that everything is pretty much re-open. Maybe again January.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601465]I did more online girls than Scandallo girls, and yes it was cheaper. The difference is with online girls you can't see and sample the goodies prior, but with due diligence from GP Gua and by their messages on WhatsApp you can tell if she'll be a good or bad fuck, or at least increase your chances.

But at Scandallo you have the chance to score a girl with less mileage on her, possible new comer and get her on your rotation for possibly less than online girls, which tend to be more business oriented, although in my experience I can think about 2 that want me as a regular and could possibly work some arrangement too.

Plenty of options, just not enough time and bullets in the chamber.[/QUOTE]This may be a controversial statement to some but based on many years in this hobby I think the "less mileage" thing is the most overrated factor in putaria. If one is talking about "less mileage that day" as in a clinica chick First session of the day vs last session. Then ok, I avoid CLnicas end of day because a human body can only take so much per day, and girls get tired.

But most people here use low mileage to refer to "lifetime mileage" or time in business. In this context I think it's an illusion that low mileage is better. I think it's basically irrelevant in terms of the sexual appetite of the woman. There are low mileage dead fish and there are high mileage nymphos. The key is finding the "naturally sexual" women regardless of age and mileage. Many women actually get sexually better with age as in less inhibited and better technique but their basic sexual appetite is probably pretty well established by nature. Even more controversial, you will probably find more sexually gifted women in the Clinicas than at Scandalo minutes for reasons of self selection. A woman needs a pretty high libido to do well in SO Clinicas, whereas the women in Scandalo just need to look hot in an evening, dress. Many of them tell me the guys in Scandalo are drunk and last less then 15 minutes in the room and that is the way they like it. Not to say there are not exceptions to every rule, but I am sure there are guys every night at Scandalo paying 5 x for 1/5th the pleasure in spite of "low mileage".

[QUOTE=Nounce;2601303] Snip. In clinicas, you go in, pick a girl, fuck for an hour for a fixed rate but you don't socialize with the girls or get GFE outside of that. Boates work differently so you need to adjust your method. You can occupy a girl the whole night and have a no intercourse GFE experience for 1200 or less in the club but it is true that you can only have sex for one hour unless you negotiate. It is expensive but you don't get waiters badgering you to order drink and that provides a more comfortable environment. So it depends how you want to spend your time and money.[/QUOTE]If you want a clinica where you can chat with the girls before choosing, in addition to getting a presentation, you can go to 57 House Friends Club at Alameda dos Aicas, 1293 in Moema. In the daytime it is a clinica, with clinica pricing, but the girls are mostly in the lounges, not hidden away in a back room, so you can check them out at your leisure and go talk to them like you would in a boate. At 8:55 PM it becomes a boate, with the house getting a room fee and you negotiate the session fee with the girl directly. I think the maximum number of girls is about 20 (maybe a few more), some quite good looking (had three sessions there myself). The daytime receptionist, Julia, is very friendly and speaks some English. Very nice vibe and the girls are quite friendly.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2601559]If you want a clinica where you can chat with the girls before choosing, in addition to getting a presentation, you can go to 57 House Friends Club at Alameda dos Aicas, 1293 in Moema. In the daytime it is a clinica, with clinica pricing, but the girls are mostly in the lounges, not hidden away in a back room, so you can check them out at your leisure and go talk to them like you would in a boate. At 8:55 PM it becomes a boate, with the house getting a room fee and you negotiate the session fee with the girl directly. I think the maximum number of girls is about 20 (maybe a few more), some quite good looking (had three sessions there myself). The daytime receptionist, Julia, is very friendly and speaks some English. Very nice vibe and the girls are quite friendly.[/QUOTE]Is this every night? And what time does the boate close? Do you know the average session fees? 57 is definitely set up for this. I had wondered why there wasn't more interactions with the girls. I have done a few daytime sessions myself and a few of the girls have been great. I would check this out next time. Thanks for the info!

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;2601559]If you want a clinica where you can chat with the girls before choosing, in addition to getting a presentation, you can go to 57 House Friends Club [/QUOTE]

Thanks for the suggestion, I plan to try it.


[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2601519] For Bradesco it limit me at $1250 per transaction, but I exited and enter my card again and was able to pull another $1250 right away. I think the bigger issue is some ATM machines don't give you an option to select how you want the note denominations, and you end up with a big stack of 50's, this prompt was hit & miss for me, I even saw an option for a 200 Real note one time, but not the other.[/QUOTE]That was my experience as well until the day you left. I went to an ATM and was able to pull 2000 in one transaction and it gave me 100 BRL bills with two choices of combination.

I saw a red head Friday night at Scandallo but I never saw her up close. I saw her again Saturday. She came to talk to Lalabo first, and he introduced her to me. She is very cute with a doll face and speaks very good English because she has worked overseas. Her price is 800. I asked if that is her final price, she started to explain to me what inflation is and why her service quality is worth 800. I asked what is included. She said no anal. I asked BBBJ, she said no because there are a lot of diseases. I told her I don't feel anything with condom. She said you know where to find me and left. I think this girl will get a client every day but I don't know why locals put up with that. She is pretty and very innocent looking that can disarm you with her look but she gave out too much info about her job that removed the illusion I had toward her similar to Rovnak wrote about.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2601542] In this context I think it's an illusion that low mileage is better.[/QUOTE]I was in the restaurant ordering drink, a short blonde hair spinner standing next to me greeted me and I replied with Portuguese that sort of break the ice. I have been learning Portuguese so I know basic and that helps here. She was all smiling and seemed like very easy going so I continue to talk to her. She asked for 800. I said was her price the same for everyone. She said do you want to negotiate? And asked how much I want to pay. I said 500 and she said yes without hesitation. I said let's find a place to sit and talk.

I took her to the sofa on the way to the outdoor club area as it was just opened. I continued the screening process and did a lot of kissing. She said she likes to suck and that works for me. I also asked about DATY, she said something about doctors and surgery. I think penetration is OK but clitoris is off limit. I know this is a big deal for some but it is not for me. She also said rich locals will pay 2000, and she even mention tres mil but I could not quite catch the context on that arrangement. Most customers don't have problem paying her 800. Just to be sure, I confirmed the price with her again and wrote down our price agreement for 500 on the phone as a record in case there is a misunderstanding.

Once in a room, she went in the shower first to adjust it so it's the right temperature for me. Scandallo room has dual shower heads in case you haven't been there. The motel I went to the day before also has dual showers. She pointed to one of the handles telling me "quente" in Portuguese which means hot. I followed up with a frio / cold pointing to the other handle to let her know I understand. After shower, she sucked me pretty well and through for a long time, rimming included. I was surprised by the rimming, and now I understand what she meant when she said she likes to suck. This is the first rimming I have had in Latin America too. I am completely satisfied with the session.

I have met other mongers who are very skillful with girls and I have watched them in action but I am not one of them. Frequently I need to build up courage to approach girls. I think I develop patience to compensate the lack of skill. I think I am lucky that girls always quoted me the 800 price and are willing to go lower.

What Steve said here is a great advice. This will improve your chance of a good session. I must admit I did not quite get it just reading it. But after observing locals for a while then I see it. I think some locals don't even take the girls to the rooms after the make out session.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2599841]Don't just grab and go. Go Thurs or Fri and spend 4-5 hours. Find a girl you dig and spend an hour or more before going to the room.[/QUOTE]

How many guys here have written "I'm fluent in Spanish but damn I can't understand anything in Brazil without Google tradutor" in the last year? I got news for you guys. You ain't "fluent" in Spanish if you can't understand a bit of Portuguese. It's hardly even qualifies as a separate language, and many consider the distinction to be at he level of dialect rather than language. I'm not saying Portuguese is not difficult, it can be. But it challenges my credulity to believe someone "truly" fluent in Spanish would be completely lost with Brazilian Portuguese which is easier than Portugal. I mean I never ever considered myself fluent in Spanish but just studying pimsleur Portuguese for a few weeks prior to visiting Brazil for first time in 2005, way before smart phone tradutor and I was immediately "conversational" and I am not even good with languages. So any self proclaimed "fluent" Spanish speaker should blow away my experience. Just saying.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2601588]Is this every night? And what time does the boate close? Do you know the average session fees? 57 is definitely set up for this. I had wondered why there wasn't more interactions with the girls. I have done a few daytime sessions myself and a few of the girls have been great. I would check this out next time. Thanks for the info![/QUOTE]Every night except Sunday. I don't know when they close but I would assume it is well after midnight. Before 8:55 PM it is 250 real for an hour. After that it is 100 real for the house for an hour and whatever fee you negotiate with the girl. Have to note that it was dead last Saturday night so may be better during weekdays.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2601612]Every night except Sunday. I don't know when they close but I would assume it is well after midnight. Before 8:55 PM it is 250 real for an hour. After that it is 100 real for the house for an hour and whatever fee you negotiate with the girl. Have to note that it was dead last Saturday night so may be better during weekdays.[/QUOTE]These places are all hit or miss depending on day, hour, proximity to feriado, weather. It's Brazil. It's unpredictable and that is "the game" one either embraces fully or one misses out because one wants it easy.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2601278]Based on our earlier conversation, I thought you were going to ask her to visit you in hotel, and not right away. That is why I did not tell you the detail in front of her when we met at the register area. I was going to text you telling you detail about her surgery.
[/QUOTE]As fate would have it, I change my mind.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2601303] When Lalabo was sitting next to me, he was approached by 2 girls and I got none. Lesson learned, don't sit next to Lalabo when you want girl to approach you.
[/QUOTE]Yup! That is true. Girls come and talk to me a lot but in the room they screw me over where as you screw them. LOL.

Nounce seems have found a way to maximize value at Scandallo. He has unlimited patient and can hang around for a longtime in the club (which I can't do) and lets the action find him rather than the other way around.

Girls seem to start with 1000 or 1500 but they can quickly be negotiated down to 500-800 as Nounce has demonstrated when I was there. How low girl can go depends on how pretty and popular she is.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2601609]How many guys here have written "I'm fluent in Spanish but damn I can't understand anything in Brazil without Google tradutor" in the last year? I got news for you guys. You ain't "fluent" in Spanish if you can't understand a bit of Portuguese. It's hardly even qualifies as a separate language, and many consider the distinction to be at he level of dialect rather than language. I'm not saying Portuguese is not difficult, it can be. But it challenges my credulity to believe someone "truly" fluent in Spanish would be completely lost with Brazilian Portuguese which is easier than Portugal. I mean I never ever considered myself fluent in Spanish but just studying pimsleur Portuguese for a few weeks prior to visiting Brazil for first time in 2005, way before smart phone tradutor and I was immediately "conversational" and I am not even good with languages. So any self proclaimed "fluent" Spanish speaker should blow away my experience. Just saying.[/QUOTE]I am fluent in Spanish and Portuguese and you are wrong. I have attended professional conferences in Latin America and the conference language was English because those speaking Spanish could not understand Brazilians and vice versa. When I am holding business meetings in a Spanish speaking country, I take a moment and compose myself before entering a room to get into a Spanish speaking frame of mind. Written, Spanish and Portuguese are very similar, it is the spoken words that are the issue particularly the endings and when spoken quickly. So, as a polyglot, you are quite simply full of it (spelled differently in Spanish and Portuguese, but sounds similar). Just saying.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2601806]I am fluent in Spanish and Portuguese and you are wrong. I have attended professional conferences in Latin America and the conference language was English because those speaking Spanish could not understand Brazilians and vice versa. When I am holding business meetings in a Spanish speaking country, I take a moment and compose myself before entering a room to get into a Spanish speaking frame of mind. Written, Spanish and Portuguese are very similar, it is the spoken words that are the issue particularly the endings and when spoken quickly. So, as a polyglot, you are quite simply full of it (spelled differently in Spanish and Portuguese, but sounds similar). Just saying.[/QUOTE]You have been posting for years and I never saw you brag about your Spanish and complain about Portuguese so I was not referring to you.

Nothing you said disproves my observation that people are probably inflating their sense of fluency in Spanish. It's like every guy here write "I'm fluent in Spanish" and I just say they are probably confusing "fluency" with conversational acumen. Yes Brasileiros and Latinos have trouble understanding each other at first, I did not say the languages were identical, I said that linguistically they are closer together than many dialects are in other languages. Most words are cognate. The big difference is as you say phonological. I you learn the Portuguese phonological system you can pretty much convert thousands of Latin rooted words in English to Portuguese, and far more in Spanish. The language is phonetic, what you see is what you say. Pronouncing the sounds are very difficult for me, but knowing what the sounds are supposed to be is not that hard.

There is a big difference between being able to follow a conversation between Brasileiros, very difficult for a non native, vs conversing one in one with a brasileiro. The Brasileiro will slow down, and use simpler vocabulary, and if you respond with portunhol they will understand you.

I think you are overreacting. My point was a truly fluent Spanish speaker should be conversational in Portuguese quickly. I am not saying that they should be polyglots like you.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2601806]. So, as a polyglot, you are quite simply full o it.[/QUOTE]Thank you. BTW, I am genuinely curious what else have I been wrong about in your opinion, that caused you to use the "again" ? I am sincerely curious as I do not recall having prior disagreements with you.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2601609]How many guys here have written "I'm fluent in Spanish but damn I can't understand anything in Brazil without Google tradutor" in the last year? I got news for you guys. You ain't "fluent" in Spanish if you can't understand a bit of Portuguese...[/QUOTE]Although I agree with you that Portuguese and Spanish are quite similar, especially the written part, I traveled to Brazil with folks who were native Spanish speakers, one was Mexican and the other from Colombia. Well, they had all sorts of trouble with Portuguese. I suspect if they took the time to learn Portuguese, they would get it quickly.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2601898]Although I agree with you that Portuguese and Spanish are quite similar, especially the written part, I traveled to Brazil with folks who were native Spanish speakers, one was Mexican and the other from Colombia. Well, they had all sorts of trouble with Portuguese. I suspect if they took the time to learn Portuguese, they would get it quickly.[/QUOTE]"Portuguese and Spanish share an 89% lexical similarity, meaning that there are equivalent forms of words in both languages. "

See my reply to ET. I did not mean to imply there are not linguistic differences. I merely meant that a truly fluent Spanish speaker should be able to "communicate" fairly quickly one on one with a Brazilian who is dumbing down their Portuguese in order to communicate. I am not talking about giving presentations at business seminars, nor understanding 3rd party conversation between Brazilians. I am talking about basic get around town communication, not cross language fluency. Language is very overloaded, there is a lot of detail that is necessary to speak fluently which is unnecessary to communicate effectively one on one. You can get by with a lot of small errors and still be understood due to the redundancy.

My point was not that Portuguese is easy but that a lot of posters may be overstating their fluency in Spanish. Fluency is a very high standard, and claiming fluency as opposed to conversational skill is a huge leap. I don't doubt they are all conversational in Spanish. Maybe I am wrong and they are all fluent. If so my apologies to all. Like I said I would never say I am fluent in Spanish and yet I was able to "communicate" very effectively on my first trip to Brasil, probably sounding like a clown but still communicating sufficiently well that I never searched for girls that spoke English, as I preferred the challenge and fun of interaction with Portuguese only speakers. I did do the pimsleur course in preparation so credit to them perhaps.

Did not mean to offend anyone. Carry on.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2601589]Thanks for the suggestion, I plan to try it.


That was my experience as well until the day you left. I went to an ATM and was able to pull 2000 in one transaction and it gave me 100 BRL bills with two choices of combination.[/QUOTE]
2,000 BRL right?

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2601910]2,000 BRL right?[/QUOTE]There are two types of Bradesco ATMs. The single machines in a pharmacy or gas station. These will charge you a small fee 20 r and limit withdrawals to 1000-1200 r. The good Bradesco ATMs are in the bank branches. They don't charge a fee. The daily withdrawal limit at Bradesco is 2500 r. To withdrawal that much in one transaction, look for machines that dispense either 100 r or 200 r bills, not max 50 r. If the machine only allows you to withdraw 1250 r, you can repeat the transaction to get another 1250 r. The 2500 r daily limit is a Bradesco policy, not Your bank policy. My bank allows a very high withdrawal limit. If I max out at Bradesco, I can go to other bank like Santandar and get more money. You will need it if you go multiple days to Scandallo!

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2601910]2,000 BRL right?[/QUOTE]Yes. 2000 BRL.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2601609]How many guys here have written "I'm fluent in Spanish but damn I can't understand anything in Brazil without Google tradutor" in the last year? I got news for you guys. You ain't "fluent" in Spanish if you can't understand a bit of Portuguese. It's hardly even qualifies as a separate language, and many consider the distinction to be at he level of dialect rather than language. I'm not saying Portuguese is not difficult, it can be. But it challenges my credulity to believe someone "truly" fluent in Spanish would be completely lost with Brazilian Portuguese which is easier than Portugal. I mean I never ever considered myself fluent in Spanish but just studying pimsleur Portuguese for a few weeks prior to visiting Brazil for first time in 2005, way before smart phone tradutor and I was immediately "conversational" and I am not even good with languages. So any self proclaimed "fluent" Spanish speaker should blow away my experience. Just saying.[/QUOTE]In my recent experience, the first couple of days were rough and I couldn't understand a lot of things being said to me, as simple as they were once I started catching on days later. Some of the comments made by fluent Spanish speakers may have been made in the early days of their visits, and if they were only there say a weekend, chances are they never got a chance to improve and thus their statements remain that they cannot understand anything.

Me, even though I struggled at first, I made it a point to try speaking to Uber drivers, the receptionists at CLínicas, and the girls themselves without pulling my phone to use Google Translate, so I could learn. But I still had to do it from time to time if I really wanted to communicate something important.

In my case I was there 10 days, and by day 5 I didn't feel too bad and was able to get by fairly well. But don't get me wrong, the language is not so simple as it seems at first, it takes time. Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2601914]There are two types of Bradesco ATMs. The single machines in a pharmacy or gas station. These will charge you a small fee 20 r and limit withdrawals to 1000-1200 r. The good Bradesco ATMs are in the bank branches. They don't charge a fee. The daily withdrawal limit at Bradesco is 2500 r. To withdrawal that much in one transaction, look for machines that dispense either 100 r or 200 r bills, not max 50 r. If the machine only allows you to withdraw 1250 r, you can repeat the transaction to get another 1250 r. The 2500 r daily limit is a Bradesco policy, not Your bank policy. My bank allows a very high withdrawal limit. If I max out at Bradesco, I can go to other bank like Santandar and get more money. You will need it if you go multiple days to Scandallo![/QUOTE]I always used ATMs in Bradesco bank locations and as for as I remember, they all charged R20 per transaction irrespective of withdrawal amount.

Is there any way to identify these free ATMs?

Regarding Bradesco ATMs. There are ATMs inside Bradesco banks that allows withdrawal of 2500 reais. Sometimes not all machines allows that amount so you have to try the next machine. I never seen a ATM inside a Bradesco bank that charges a fee.

There are ATMs called "24 horas" in pharmacies, supermarkets, gas stations etc. These machines usually charge a fee. These "24 horas" ATMs works for several banks and could probably be mistaken for being a Bradesco ATM.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2601942]I always used ATMs in Bradesco bank locations and as for as I remember, they all charged R20 per transaction irrespective of withdrawal amount.

Is there any way to identify these free ATMs?[/QUOTE]I am not sure if there is a way see on the outside. It's possible it also depends on your bank or card. I use this Bradesco branch in Moema. No fees for me.

Bradesco.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/GuhPdMKVk7SxhhKz6[/URL]

[QUOTE=MixedSalad07;2588288]Planning first Sampa trip post COVID.

Will hit Scandallo and maybe some Twitter GPS. Will report back field reports.

Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Hit Scandollo last night, and as Rovnak assured me, it was open but with a scaled down staff due to the holiday.

I arrived earlier to avoid the additional entrada fee.

I wasn't pressed for time and wanted to ease in to things a bit. I usually like to cap visits with a trip to Scandallo. I like the variety and the interaction.

I was having dinner in the restaurant and a beautiful mornena got my attention. We had a pleasant enough conversation. She was hot (9 at least). Had it been my last night in town, I probably would have tried to lock her in, but I was content to take it slow. She asked if she could sit with me, and I knew it would have been difficult for me to break away from her. I told her I just arrived, would eat, and then would take things from there. I regretted letting her leave later in the evening. It didn't take long before she was seated with some other patrons. Later I saw her take the elevator with them, and I assume she left with them because I never saw her again and I was there for a while. Oh well. We now that looks are no guarantee for service but she was in the top echelon last night.

Once I ate, I made a few loops. I spoke to one loira who had a great athletic build. She said she was a trainer. She was ok, but didn't really interest me. She also said she didn't drink and remember another poster saying they consider that a red flag. She quoted 1,000 and I told her that was too much and we eventually parted ways.

Another branca caught my attention. She had natural body and was heavy up top. She looked a bit unassuming. We chatted and went to the bar in the restaurant to get better acquainted. She seemed fun. She quoted 1,000. I told her the most I ever paid at Scandallo was 600. Among other things we ended up talking about my previous experiences at Scandallo and strip clubs in america. I asked her DOs and DONTs and we closed the deal at 600.

Fast forward past the usual logistics and the session was non stop action. I had to ask her to calm down at the start. She had a preference for a rougher experience and when I eventually finished she squeezed me in and didn't let me pull out. I was covered. After that I collapsed on her stomach and we both laid in silence for about 4 minutes.

When I went to close out for the room she asked if she could get an extra 280. Her service was GREAT. But I told her a deal was a deal, but that we could connect again. She was touchy feely to try to get me to part with an extra gift. I offered to buy her a drink. She accepted that and dropped the issue.

Anyway, I told her I might take another girl. She asked me if I liked red heads and pointed out her friend to me. The girl was nice looking, but I wasn't quite sure. I asked her rate and she told me her price was 850. I told her I would think about it.

I chatted up few more ladies, but eventually called it a night. I was very content with the one session.

I'll hit some clinicas and GPS and will report back.

Great info, thanks for sharing!

[QUOTE=MixedSalad07;2602099]Hit Scandollo last night, and as Rovnak assured me, it was open but with a scaled down staff due to the holiday.

I arrived earlier to avoid the additional entrada fee.

I wasn't pressed for time and wanted to ease in to things a bit. I usually like to cap visits with a trip to Scandallo. I like the variety and the interaction.

I was having dinner in the restaurant and a beautiful mornena got my attention. We had a pleasant enough conversation. She was hot (9 at least). Had it been my last night in town, I probably would have tried to lock her in, but I was content to take it slow. She asked if she could sit with me, and I knew it would have been difficult for me to break away from her. I told her I just arrived, would eat, and then would take things from there. I regretted letting her leave later in the evening. It didn't take long before she was seated with some other patrons. Later I saw her take the elevator with them, and I assume she left with them because I never saw her again and I was there for a while. Oh well. We now that looks are no guarantee for service but she was in the top echelon last night.

Once I ate, I made a few loops. I spoke to one loira who had a great athletic build. She said she was a trainer. She was ok, but didn't really interest me. She also said she didn't drink and remember another poster saying they consider that a red flag. She quoted 1,000 and I told her that was too much and we eventually parted ways.

Another branca caught my attention. She had natural body and was heavy up top. She looked a bit unassuming. We chatted and went to the bar in the restaurant to get better acquainted. She seemed fun. She quoted 1,000. I told her the most I ever paid at Scandallo was 600. Among other things we ended up talking about my previous experiences at Scandallo and strip clubs in america. I asked her DOs and DONTs and we closed the deal at 600.

Fast forward past the usual logistics and the session was non stop action. I had to ask her to calm down at the start. She had a preference for a rougher experience and when I eventually finished she squeezed me in and didn't let me pull out. I was covered. After that I collapsed on her stomach and we both laid in silence for about 4 minutes.

When I went to close out for the room she asked if she could get an extra 280. Her service was GREAT. But I told her a deal was a deal, but that we could connect again. She was touchy feely to try to get me to part with an extra gift. I offered to buy her a drink. She accepted that and dropped the issue.

Anyway, I told her I might take another girl. She asked me if I liked red heads and pointed out her friend to me. The girl was nice looking, but I wasn't quite sure. I asked her rate and she told me her price was 850. I told her I would think about it.

I chatted up few more ladies, but eventually called it a night. I was very content with the one session.

I'll hit some clinicas and GPS and will report back.[/QUOTE]

While conversing with the girl that I spent the weekend with from Scandello, the subject matter turned to a weekend trip from São Paulo. She doesn't have a driver license but will get one by January. So I was thinking heading to a nice weekend type getaway from SP. She is going to look into a few places and I will too. Wondering if anyone on this thread has any suggestions for something approx 2-3 hours away by car?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2602567]While conversing with the girl that I spent the weekend with from Scandello, the subject matter turned to a weekend trip from So Paulo. She doesn't have a driver license but will get one by January. So I was thinking heading to a nice weekend type getaway from SP. She is going to look into a few places and I will too. Wondering if anyone on this thread has any suggestions for something approx 2-3 hours away by car?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]The small and upscale beach town of Juquehy is a little over 2 hours drive from So Paulo and is popular with the So Paulo upper income folks.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2602567]While conversing with the girl that I spent the weekend with from Scandello, the subject matter turned to a weekend trip from So Paulo. She doesn't have a driver license but will get one by January. So I was thinking heading to a nice weekend type getaway from SP. She is going to look into a few places and I will too. Wondering if anyone on this thread has any suggestions for something approx 2-3 hours away by car?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]A Scandallo girl wanted me to take her to this beach place. Looks nice but wrong girl, so I didn't go.

Looks like a few hours away.

[URL]http://www.booking.com/Share-GFz4pp[/URL]

DPNY Beach Hotel & spa.

+55 12 3xxxx000.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/gn8NrvXoK64gHC279[/URL]

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2602567]While conversing with the girl that I spent the weekend with from Scandello, the subject matter turned to a weekend trip from So Paulo. She doesn't have a driver license but will get one by January. So I was thinking heading to a nice weekend type getaway from SP. She is going to look into a few places and I will too. Wondering if anyone on this thread has any suggestions for something approx 2-3 hours away by car?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Ilha Bela.

There are tour buses that goes there don't need a car.

I got a little carried the way and acted like Bombao was an FKK in Germany and not a boate in SP.

Was at the new, smaller location the other night for a large portion of the evening. I recommend to follow "best practices" when it comes to screening. I did not practice the best judgment and it cost me a little in annoyance and opportunity cost with my first session.

The first girl would have cut the time we agreed to by a half hour if I wasn't vigilant. She tried to ask for an extra 100 reals, then dropped it to 50. I told her I would give her the 50 and then discuss the issue with the front desk. She then declined the 50. Some of this was self-inflicted. I had negotiated the rate firmly with her, but maybe she thought she could make it back up by cutting the time short without me realizing it. Most of the actual session was decent. She dogged the finish, but that's on me. I was negligent with ironing out some details, and should have never accepted her to begin with as I know better. She approached me 2 x and honestly wasn't that hot. She was average but I guess I had an itch for that which had to be scratched. It wasn't a disaster, but was subpar by Brazilian standards. I was a bit motivated to not end the night with that annoyance. Branca. Natural body. Would not repeat. I was comfortable with her price if it was for 90 minutes, not 60. Plus since I had been drinking, I thought I may need the extra time. She was trying to get out as her shift was over at 10. Again, there was enough evidence available for me to make a better decision, but I didn't stay disciplined.

Paid around 600 + room for the first two sessions. I don't firmly remember the prices, just remember them not being outrageous for a boate. I care more about experience and perceived value. I don't have patience for a goal post being moved on me post negotiations. Once settled, I don't want to bring it up again.

Knew that girl was leaving, so decided to stay at the club a bit. There was a cute morena in the corner. She seemed shy. We chatted it up for a while bit and we eventually went to the room. She told me she was 18 which floored me. I would have guessed 24. She was solid in the room. No unpleasant surprises. Morena, young, natural body, petite, cute face, piercings.

Ended up going back to the boate. By this point I was content, but just wanted to soak up the atmosphere a bit. There was a lot more quality talent there by this point in the evening. I had got there around 8 and now it was probably closer to 12. For me it was like being in a casino the way I lost track of time. And since I lost on that first bet, I was trying (mentally) to recoup from my earlier lost.

Later came across a petite branca with nice proportions. We chatted for a bit. I wasn't really trying to take it anywhere. She legitimately seemed interesting. Her convo was decent and she took me upstairs to show me the upper floor that had the restaurant and the deck for smoking. Now she tells me she's 18 too which blows my mind. From her convo I would have given her mid-20's at least. She later showed me her ID. She was 19, but said that last year didn't count because of the pandemic. She'll be 20 soon. Now we're chilling talking, dancing back in the boate. The people watching was fun too. As the night was rolling down I figured to ask what it would be to take her back with me. She quoted 1,000 and that would be until about 4 pm the next evening as she had a prior appointment. I took her back to my hotel and it was GFE and PSE until the next day. This is the second girl I had this trip who was into things quite rough. I like a tight, plump bunda, but am not an anal connoisseur like TheCane, so not sure if that was on that menu. I usually do like to ask though as I think it helps with the screening process. Branca, natural body. Tight body, skills. GFE and PSE. Exceeded my expecations. Could repeat.

I don't really recommend taking 3 girls out of the same boate the same night. Obviously it's not the most cost effective method. Like I said earlier, I was a bit unsatisfied with the first bomboa session, so I was trying to get that bad taste out of my mouth. I was on dust by the end of the night as I had session at Abbobora earlier in the afternoon.

The Abbobora session was solid. Cute branca, PAWG, natural. Solid service, no unpleasant surprises.

What is a fair price for an overnight at Scandalo when the girl comes to one at the hotel on another day?

[QUOTE=Dodochen;2603314]What is a fair price for an overnight at Scandalo when the girl comes to one at the hotel on another day?[/QUOTE]As of exp this week, some I asked quoted 2,000.1,000 was the rate I got at connection and Bomboa. Others may have more data points to offer.

I went to check out Clinica Brooklin yesterday. A man sitting in front of the place told me it is closed because the property is sold or something. He told me to go to Advance VIP. I went and there were 4 girls available. It is the worst lineup I have seen in Sao Paulo. Left without picking a girl.

Because I want to check out something new, I went to Clnica Tangara. This place felt like a brothel. There were quite a few men sitting in the reception area. I was led to a large indoor space with many girls sitting around. I can easily pick someone doable. They greeted me one by one. I picked one but it was an uninspired session that I could not finish. Her pussy was too loose. I should have stayed on quatro. Pay 120 and left.

My phone battery is about the run out so I took a Uber to Prime. But I texted on the phone too much and eventually I was out of battery so I left.

[QUOTE=Dodochen;2603314]What is a fair price for an overnight at Scandalo when the girl comes to one at the hotel on another day?[/QUOTE]Every girl has her own fair price and a lot depending on chemistry. Some ask 3000 off the bat in which case I know not to talk to her anymore. She may say one price and just cut out early after you finish or say something came up and had to leave. Either case what is fair to you may not be to her.

I've also gone on vacation for free with some just because they can't afford it otherwise. So it all depends on the girl and chemistry. When there is chemistry the girl will leave with me and not say any price and just accept what I give her. But usually only happens if one speaks Portuguese.

Do not pay more than 1500 R seems "fair" and specify the time they will stay till.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2603420]I went to check out Clinica Brooklin yesterday. A man sitting in front of the place told me it is closed because the property is sold or something. He told me to go to Advance VIP. I went and there were 4 girls available. It is the worst lineup I have seen in Sao Paulo. Left without picking a girl.

Because I want to check out something new, I went to Clnica Tangara. This place felt like a brothel. There were quite a few men sitting in the reception area. I was led to a large indoor space with many girls sitting around. I can easily pick someone doable. They greeted me one by one. I picked one but it was an uninspired session that I could not finish. Her pussy was too loose. I should have stayed on quatro. Pay 120 and left.

My phone battery is about the run out so I took a Uber to Prime. But I texted on the phone too much and eventually I was out of battery so I left.[/QUOTE]Brooklin is currently at their sister clinica (Advance VIP) location because the Brooklin location was sold. They will be moving to a new location on September 17th. The location will supposedly be announced September 14th on their WhatsApp. I think it may be the old Espaco Morumbi prive on Chafic Malouf in Brooklin since when I went there about 10 days ago it was closed and being remodeled.

I've been away for a little while, but now I'm back. And great to see so many good Sampa reports in the month or so I have been away. And glad to see so many newbies discovering and enjoying Scandallo! You know what I call it. The baddest puta palace on the planet!

All the clinicas in Moema suddenly did not open today. WhatsApp were silent. Not sure what happened. I had to change my plans. Hopefully they will open tomorrow and it's sometime longer term.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;2603599]Brooklin is currently at their sister clinica ...[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info


[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2603965]All the clinicas in Moema suddenly did not open today. WhatsApp were silent. Not sure what happened. I had to change my plans. Hopefully they will open tomorrow and it's sometime longer term.[/QUOTE]I was told that Miruna was having some electric work done so they are closed today. Maybe that applies to all of them. Tangara was open but it is not in Moema.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2604000]Thanks for the info


I was told that Miruna was having some electric work done so they are closed today. Maybe that applies to all of them. Tangara was open but it is not in Moema.[/QUOTE]It wasn't electrical work. I was at another clinica in the afternoon and was told by the manager that the Moema ones were closed because the tax authorities were doing an inspection, so he made his place look like it was closed, and actually did close while I was there.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2604024]It wasn't electrical work. I was at another clinica in the afternoon and was told by the manager that the Moema ones were closed because the tax authorities were doing an inspection, so he made his place look like it was closed, and actually did close while I was there.[/QUOTE]Got it. My post was based on what Miruna told me on WhatsApp when I tried to book someone in the morning.

Cheers!

Sao Paulo is getting to normal little by little!

Cheers!

This one was extra fresh!

Hit up are dos Gusmoes 580 at 11 am. Wasn't open. Came back around 4 or 5. There were three mediocre-looking fat chicks and one cute black or mulatto girl. Hard to tell in the dimness. The barkeep was quite friendly despite my broken Portuguese and he told me there were a few more girls out back. Apparently they have a sauna there. Anyway eventually I take the cute girl for half an hour. 90 reals. She was actually way hotter in the room.

Might be back. Definitely think prives are they way to go, can't stand dealing with escorts any more.

For the monger of means, sophistication, and high taste: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEV51mFxVxo[/URL].

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2604024]It wasn't electrical work. I was at another clinica in the afternoon and was told by the manager that the Moema ones were closed because the tax authorities were doing an inspection, so he made his place look like it was closed, and actually did close while I was there.[/QUOTE]They are all back open today like nothing happened. All is good.

I was in friend 57. I can recommend blonde Mel. She's a little older late 20's and medium size but has a beautiful face. Very sensual experience. Great foreplay; clinical girls are usually not great at. Spent 30 minutes for course 1. Then gave a great 20 minutes professional massage, better than 95% of usual clinical massage. Then she saw I was hard again and spent next 15 minutes getting me to come again. I stopped back at night around 10 p and it was quiet. But the front lady said tonight maybe quiet with fewer girls.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2599093]Has anybody been here? It close to Moema and open late. Lots of google reviews which mention beautiful girls over the last year, which makes me think it's not just a civie disco club. Or maybe it just has a great marketing team. Hahaha. I'll bite and willing to check it out later this month when I am back in SP. I would like to find a low key club.

Brooklin Club.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/mSntUH5ekhzRDpbq5[/URL][/QUOTE]After I struck out at friend 57. I didn't want to venture out to Scandallo (that's tomorrow night), so I check out this club in Brooklin. It's a small local boate. Actually not bad though nobody speaks English. Google translate is essential. It's a Tues. Night so kinda quiet. About 12 girls, and about 8 guys (not old) and 3 girls were 8 in my view and would fit in at Scandallo easily. The girls were fun. Some were dancing. I got drinks for 2 girls. There are girl drinks, caprinhna, still actually strong and cost 50 r, and sat with them drinking. They kissed a little and showed my their tits And grind the butts on my lap. Decided to take a tall thin redhead with incredible long legs to the room which is a hotel next door. Apparently it's standard price for all the girls which I love. 170 r for half hour and 340 r for one hour for both the girl and the room. I paid my complete bill to go to the room. It was 540 r. So 340 r for one hour. 2 girl drinks is 100 r. 2 beers I think we maybe 20 r each. There was a cover which looks like it's 50 or 60 r. Just FYI, I think most guys just do 30 min rooms. The attendant knocks on the door to let you know when there is 5 minutes left. She knocked on our door at 25 minutes and my girl says time is almost up. I told her no and showed her the time and she could tell I was upset. So the attendant knocked again, my girl yells out we have one hour and try to make it up to me. But that just kill the mood for the rest of the session for me. But I would try to this place again, it has potential if it was more busy (maybe on Thursday or weekend) and more girls.

Help. I am about to make my first trip to SA in 1.5 years. I can't get to Rio with a direct flight so I need to make connections. As it turns out It is easier and cheaper for me to go to Sao Paulo on a direct flight. I have made this trip before. Two days in Sao just to relax then a very nice bus ride to Rio. I can't remember where I stayed on my first trip but I did spend time at a club called Tangara. Can someone tell me what part of the city should I stay. This is a big city. Please just give me an idea of where I should stay. I will only be there for 2 days.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2604573] Can someone tell me what part of the city should I stay. This is a big city. Please just give me an idea of where I should stay. I will only be there for 2 days.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I always stayed in Moema. It is a safe neighborhood and very close to many popular clinicas. I usually stay at Bourbon convention hotel. Some board members are starting in Jardim which is nearby neighborhood to Moema.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2604449].... She knocked on our door at 25 minutes and my girl says time is almost up. I told her no and showed her the time and she could tell I was upset. So the attendant knocked again, my girl yells out we have one hour and try to make it up to me. But that just kill the mood for the rest of the session for me. But I would try to this place again, it has potential if it was more busy (maybe on Thursday or weekend) and more girls.[/QUOTE]I would not have gotten upset if I were you. The attendant must have been so accustomed to knocking at 25 minutes that she made an honest mistake. However, I would have banged the living daylights out of my date during the remaining period for suggesting that time was almost up.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2604671]I always stayed in Moema. It is a safe neighborhood and very close to many popular clinicas. I usually stay at Bourbon convention hotel. Some board members are starting in Jardim which is nearby neighborhood to Moema.[/QUOTE]Jardim is a bit more upscale than Moema with nice bars, cafes and restaurants. Some of the streets are good for walking and people watching on a nice day.

With only two days, Moema is probably the better choice. It's very practical for indulging in the clinica talent.

[QUOTE=MixedSalad07;2588288]Planning first Sampa trip post COVID.

Will RTFF to keep abreast of any new info on Bomboa, Doutora Oyama, or Oro Spa. If anyone has recent info feel free to respond or PM.

Not a big fan of Tangara, but do like the above along with Abboborra. Will hit Scandallo and maybe some Twitter GPS. Will report back field reports.

Stay safe.[/QUOTE]
Did a mix of boates, pernoites and clinicas.

90% of my experiences were outstanding.

Hit Oro, the service and staff are great. Unfortunately I picked the wrong girl. Too much work done for my taste. She was pleasant and wanted to please but I wasn't that attracted by her alterations (she had work done everywhere). Also, her breath was a bit tart. There was a great branca who looked all natural who seemed to be interviewing while I was there. She was more to my taste. Maybe next time.

Hit Connection for the first time. S / O to the forum members who called that one. IYKYK. A bit of a hike. Great talent level. Different vibe than Bomboa and Scandallo, lower price point. Fun place.

This is the first SP trip where I've done pernoites. All of my experiences were amazing and had for 1 K each. I see myself taking this route more with the right prospects.

Sessioned again at Scandallo. It was phenomenal. She started with a tantric massage and BBBJ. The session was amazing and she definitely got multiple Os. I did not have the time to repeat with her, but would on a future trip if she's around. She started at 1 K, settled on 7. She was intense!

If anyone comes down with USD, I had one old $100 note that wasn't accepted at the currency exchange. They said they could only accept the new ones.

Thanks to all the contributors who keep this page one of the better ones on the forum. 
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Sao Paulo is slowly getting back to normal.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2604965]Jardim is a bit more upscale than Moema with nice bars, cafes and restaurants. Some of the streets are good for walking and people watching on a nice day.

With only two days, Moema is probably the better choice. It's very practical for indulging in the clinica talent.[/QUOTE]I look on google map. There is a few Jardim. Which one have cafes and restaurants or just places to hang out when not having sex.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2605642]I look on google map. There is a few Jardim. Which one have cafes and restaurants or just places to hang out when not having sex.[/QUOTE]Usually when talking about Jardim people refer to Jardim Paulista, the area nearby Ave. Paulista. The area near The Renaissance hotel has a lot of bars and restaurants to check out and it's pretty safe day & night (I walked it in my last visit).

Went to Connection, it did not really get started until after midnight. There was a live band playing. Girls were asking between 300 to 500. One girl quoted me 500 but got her for 400 without any effort. I see from the price list that the girl only pays the club 50 to get in. They potentially can make more money than Scandallo because of that.

There were a few girls went upstairs with customer 2 or morel times. I did not talk to any of them although they were all very attractive. I will go there early next time to grab one of them. I had a table by the elevator so I see almost everyone going to and returning from the room. The room setup is similar to Scandallo.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2605865]Went to Connection, it did not really get started until after midnight. There was a live band playing. Girls were asking between 300 to 500. One girl quoted me 500 but got her for 400 without any effort. I see from the price list that the girl only pays the club 50 to get in. They potentially can make more money than Scandallo because of that.

There were a few girls went upstairs with customer 2 or morel times. I did not talk to any of them although they were all very attractive. I will go there early next time to grab one of them. I had a table by the elevator so I see almost everyone going to and returning from the room. The room setup is similar to Scandallo.[/QUOTE]Do they have a metal detector or search you before entry?

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2605681]Usually when talking about Jardim people refer to Jardim Paulista, the area nearby Ave. Paulista. The area near The Renaissance hotel has a lot of bars and restaurants to check out and it's pretty safe day & night (I walked it in my last visit).[/QUOTE]EverythingBlue, Thank for the info. Ave. Paulista seem nice and safe. I will plan a trip around Chrismas. Anyone want to meet up?

From reading this forum, I should visit Scandallo Lounge. For online girl private55 seem highly photoshop, but a few photo are real. Photoacompanhantes, look like the photo was taking at home. Is there any other site that I should be looking at?

Correct me if I'm wrong, the clinicas are places where you walk in. You pick from a line of girl. If so, that is not my thing.

Club Connection, looking forward to reading more.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2605681]Usually when talking about Jardim people refer to Jardim Paulista, the area nearby Ave. Paulista. The area near The Renaissance hotel has a lot of bars and restaurants to check out and it's pretty safe day & night (I walked it in my last visit).[/QUOTE]I second this. It is a perfect area. Lots of restaurants, small bars, grocery stores and pharmacies. Super safe to walk around during then day and night.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2606066]I second this. It is a perfect area. Lots of restaurants, small bars, grocery stores and pharmacies. Super safe to walk around during then day and night.[/QUOTE]Same can be said for Moema, with the added benefit of being convenient for daytime clinica action.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2606066]I second this. It is a perfect area. Lots of restaurants, small bars, grocery stores and pharmacies. Super safe to walk around during then day and night.[/QUOTE]I agree that Jardins is relatively safe area, but you still have to be careful. A week ago a local business owner got shot, and later died in the hospital, in a robbery gone wrong in Rua Oscar Freire. The group of three men, with two motorcycles, robbed 12 people in the area. [URL]https://g1.globo.com/sp/sao-paulo/noticia/2021/09/11/video-mostra-o-arrastao-que-deixou-um-comerciante-morto-na-rua-oscar-freire-nos-jardins.ghtml[/URL].

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2605681]Usually when talking about Jardim people refer to Jardim Paulista, the area nearby Ave. Paulista. The area near The Renaissance hotel has a lot of bars and restaurants to check out and it's pretty safe day & night (I walked it in my last visit).[/QUOTE]Just some personal takes on the various streets that have been mentioned:

Ave. Paulista. Fine for a walk / people watching, it's a wide, busy street that's a heavy commercial office corridor. I don't think it's real conducive for sitting outside and having lunch or whatever.

Rua Oscar Freire. There's some dining, but it's known more for upscale, boutique shopping.

The Renaissance Hotel area is good and the Jardim Paulista daylife / nightlife is south of Ave. Paulista. You can fine some interesting places and interesting people. These are not typically your lower class Paulistas where the women aren't getting excited simply by some dollars in your pocket.

Moema obviously has several clinicas. It also had the mall Shopping Ibirapuera nearby. It's not a fancy mall, but it has good food and the locals are friendly.

Incidentally, both Jardim Paulista and Moema have a large amount of the escorts living and hosting in the buildings. They are both good neighborhoods.

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2606035]Do they have a metal detector or search you before entry?[/QUOTE]They did a search when I went.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2606102]in a robbery gone wrong in Rua Oscar Freire. [/QUOTE]I guess I am not surprised that these robbers came in motos. I like this area a lot. When I am not pressed for time, I always end up in this area eating.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2606047] For online girl private55 seem highly photoshop, but a few photo are real. Photoacompanhantes, look like the photo was taking at home. Is there any other site that I should be looking at?[/QUOTE]I have better result with clubmodel. I would forget about private55. I let my guard down and was scammed once.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2606047]
Correct me if I'm wrong, the clinicas are places where you walk in. You pick from a line of girl. If so, that is not my thing.
[/QUOTE]You should try it at least once to find out. You don't have to pick anyone. Just go and experience it.

Anyone know if you exit Scandallo, can you reenter without paying again? Eg, go in the afternoon to check out the place, then come back again a few hours later, like FKK's.

[QUOTE=Nuupter;2606182]Anyone know if you exit Scandallo, can you reenter without paying again? Eg, go in the afternoon to check out the place, then come back again a few hours later, like FKK's.[/QUOTE]You can. Just tell them you already been there earlier.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2606167]I have better result with clubmodel. I would forget about private55. I let my guard down and was scammed once.

You should try it at least once to find out. You don't have to pick anyone. Just go and experience it.[/QUOTE]Just on photosaccompanhantes I have used with mixed results, but if you stick to verified Fotos and with positive reviews you can find some gems. For example last night I went with Bruna medeiros.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/morena-sapeca-e-carinhosa-esperando-por-voce-id-2qfzp[/URL]

The pic are real no Photoshop! And did everything she said. If you speak Portuguese and are into that type of girl highly recommend.

I will go to scandalo and likely bamboa this week too.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2604573]Help. I am about to make my first trip to SA in 1.5 years. I can't get to Rio with a direct flight so I need to make connections. As it turns out It is easier and cheaper for me to go to Sao Paulo on a direct flight. I have made this trip before. Two days in Sao just to relax then a very nice bus ride to Rio. I can't remember where I stayed on my first trip but I did spend time at a club called Tangara. Can someone tell me what part of the city should I stay. This is a big city. Please just give me an idea of where I should stay. I will only be there for 2 days.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I am staying and have always stayed at the Renaissance near avenida Paulista. They are cool with bringing girls to the rooms and the Paulista is good to walk especially on Sunday. It is more pricey than other hotels however but I know a lot of hotels can give you problem with visitors to the room.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2606161]They did a search when I went.[/QUOTE]So I guess this stays in the glove compartment!

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2603599]Brooklin is currently at their sister clinica (Advance VIP) location because the Brooklin location was sold. They will be moving to a new location on September 17th. The location will supposedly be announced September 14th on their WhatsApp. I think it may be the old Espaco Morumbi prive on Chafic Malouf in Brooklin since when I went there about 10 days ago it was closed and being remodeled.[/QUOTE]The new address is Avenida Professor Vicente Rao, 1656 - Santo Amaro.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2606358]Just on photosaccompanhantes I have used with mixed results, but if you stick to verified Fotos and with positive reviews you can find some gems. For example last night I went with Bruna medeiros.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/morena-sapeca-e-carinhosa-esperando-por-voce-id-2qfzp[/URL]

The pic are real no Photoshop! And did everything she said. If you speak Portuguese and are into that type of girl highly recommend.

I will go to scandalo and likely bamboa this week too.[/QUOTE]I found another gem Monique:

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/ninfetinha-com-o-melhor-boquete-de-sp-bem-babado-id-2g8x6[/URL]

She doesn't do later than 8 pm because she goes to college but service was top notch.

[QUOTE=Nuupter;2606182]Anyone know if you exit Scandallo, can you reenter without paying again? Eg, go in the afternoon to check out the place, then come back again a few hours later, like FKK's.[/QUOTE]Yes. You can pay the cheaper cover during the day and avoid the higher cover at night on your return. However, you still have to meet the minimum consumption for each visit.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2606358]Just on photosaccompanhantes I have used with mixed results, but if you stick to verified Fotos and with positive reviews you can find some gems. For example last night I went with Bruna medeiros.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/morena-sapeca-e-carinhosa-esperando-por-voce-id-2qfzp[/URL]

The pic are real no Photoshop! And did everything she said. If you speak Portuguese and are into that type of girl highly recommend..[/QUOTE]I live in Sao Paulo, I pick up girls like her at my neighborhood bar. All you need is a bucket of beer, a large pizza, an apartment nearby, and a bag of weed! LOL.

I went to Rio a few years back and tried solarium / centarus. I does anyone know if there is something similar in Sao Paulo?

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2606750]Yes. You can pay the cheaper cover during the day and avoid the higher cover at night on your return. However, you still have to meet the minimum consumption for each visit.[/QUOTE]Alright, thanks. I guess they will give me something as proof that I have been there before I leave?

I see some clinics advertise 'terapeutas' and 'massagistas' with photos and profiles, however I can't get what the difference. Can anyone give an input in a local context about the difference in services they may offer.

I am not a Clinica connaiseur but can answer the two basic recent questions:

No there is nothing in SP like termas of Rio. There are two styles of location based P4P in SP. The Boate. Which is a nightclub but for the sole purpose of P4 P. Scandallo and Connections are the most discussed of late. And the Clinica. This is a daytime activity and while a sort of spa like atmosphere like some termas, you don't hang out there. There is a line up and you pick your girl and do your thing. If you like days do CLnicas. If you like nights do Boate. Or do both.

On the question of the terms and how to find the good ones I don't recommend basic internet research. It can be hard to find girls CLnicas vs legit massage CLnicas. Here is your best source. Search the threads for Enjoy, Miruna, Moema Prime, Abbobora, Brooklin and Tangar. Others may add to the list but those are top of mind. I can personally recommend Abbobora and did not care for Tangar. But ymmv.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2607549]If you like days do Clinicas. If you like nights do Boate. Or do both.[/QUOTE]Both! LOL.

I got signed out while posting so hopefully this is not a repeat.

I arrived in SP on Sunday. On Sunday and Monday I did call ins from photosaccompanhantes. Bruna and Monique that I noted from previous posts this week. I was surprised how much I got for my money. Bruna is a young mulata 20 years old. 450 plus Uber for 3 hours, full GFE with BBBJ. She kisses real well and I finished twice with her. We took a bath talked and was well above my expectations.

On Monday was Monique. She is 22. I tried to get her for 2 hours at around 6 pm but she had college so had to do a lot earlier. She quoted 320 that got me thinking is this too cheap but I saw good reviews so gave it a shot. She took the metro and met in the Renaissance lobby. OMG, the site did not show her face but she was perfect 10 morena. Another GFE BBBJ and also CIM. Finished twice again.

I was impressed with my luck on photosaccompanhantes two times in a row just goes to show if you do your due diligence you get rewarded.

Tuesday I had to go to Scandalo. Got there around 10:15. Was immediately grabbed by a short blonde. By now you must realize I am into Morena's and mulatas but I let her show me around. She said they reformed the place but not too much has changed from my memory. I let her go grabbed a beer and sat down. I always have to compose myself for at least 30 minutes when ariving at scandalo. So much to choose from can be overwhelming. A morena sat next to me, a little bit artificial for me. Over painted and remolded, I like natural looking girls. But she was cool to talk to and was keeping the other voltures away while I scanned the talent. After a while she let me go and I got up to make my rounds. It didn't take long when a short semi-petit morena said Hi and I was drawn to her smile and innocent face (BTW not at all innocent). We sat on the couch and she said her name was Rebecca aged 26. Overall I would give her an 8 Based on her looks. Usually I would hold out for a 9 but she had the right attitude and enthusiasm I look for that made up for that. She said she was from Campinas where I will be going this weekend. We stayed on the couch for a while. She quoted 800 1 HR, I probably could have got that down but was feeling lazy and had spent much less than expected on Monday and Tuesday. As we checked into the room she made a mistake and said her real name Roberta. Once in the room she put on some techno that I mentioned I liked and did a strip tease. We took a shower and got right to it BTW the techno was still going and she kept to the beat the whole time. She only did a CBJ but made up for it with a great session. After finishing she was in no rush to leave. We went again but just one hour I was not going to finish again especially since this was day three of the marathon. I got her number. Apparently will be in Campinas this weekend so may repeat if fazendinha and itatinga are busts.

Yesterday day 4 was not dead set on sessioning but decided to check out Bahamas and bomboa. This would be my first time at Bahamas and I had not been to Bomboa since the reformation.

Bahamas had around 20 girls and just a couple guys. Initially did not see anybody Worth a go but this was only 9:30. Two girls morena and a blonde (amazing how much you see this combo) sat down. They said the down stairs area was separate and they would only take me there to "abuse me" I liked the enthusiasm but they were only 5 and 6's at best. One they left immediately a morena sat down. About a 7-8 bit a little taller than I like. She was from Para in north Brazil and had that Brazilian Indian look. On another day would have gone with her but was already getting set to head to Bomboa. Other than her there were a few other potential takers but most sitting down with a board look on their faces.

After that headed to Bomboa at 11:30. I liked the old one better and I have to say it is way too small. The upstairs was pretty empty because it was cold. Downstairs had the band going and pretty crowded. I finally sat down and a two girls sat with me (the aforementioned blonde morena combo) I did not realize this was the Wednesday special! They were 6-7's I let them go and scanned the room. There was a mulata who sent me an air kiss and I caught it. As she approached she looked older than when she sent the kiss. She said she was 30 that looked about right. Usually my range is 20-28 any younger is too inexperienced and older has likely been pounded more than a wack-a-mole game at the arcade. But I made an exception because her body was in great shape and had that enthusiasm. She quoted 500 and off we went. She gave one of the best bbbjs of my life and did not disappoint.

Overall I am way under budget and will splurge at proven Scandalo again before heading to Campinas.

[QUOTE=Questner;2607409]I see some clinics advertise 'terapeutas' and 'massagistas' with photos and profiles, however I can't get what the difference. Can anyone give an input in a local context about the difference in services they may offer.[/QUOTE]

Most "terapeutas", will give you a true massage and are fairly reputable massage parlours, and will typically offer you a wide range of rub-downs (ie. reflexology, deep tissue, Swedish, tantric massage...etc). Depending on management / masseuse, a happy ending may also be on the menu.

On the other hand, at "massagistas" shops/parlours, sex is most definitely always on the menu. You will get more sex (depending on what the girl does), with a light massage, if at all.

For Guiseppe who is headed to Campinas.

Fazendinha can be hit or miss. I had an amazing time and that is where I met Thifany (who I flew to London) so there are some real keepers there. Others were not impressed. I guess ymmv. A couple years back they had a van that would pick you up in Campinas. Not sure if they still run it but U should check because it's a haul.

Might check out Moustache there in town if you are feeling lazy. When I went early (10) on a weekday it was me and eight girls. I didn't really mind. I found one that I consider a solid nine and she was a wildcat in bed. So again ymmv but maybe you find a gem. We did have to take a taxi to a love hotel because nothing in town.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2607658]
On the other hand, at "massagistas" shops/parlours, sex is most definitely always on the menu. You will get more sex (depending on what the girl does), with a light massage, if at all.[/QUOTE]My experience is the same, it is girl specific. Some girls don't do massage at all.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2607549]But ymmv.[/QUOTE]My first session here is at Abbobora because I heard it was the best. Probably the least satisfactory session I have had here, partly because I did not know how it works. I went in and out in less than 30 minutes. Only BBBJ, and sex, the girl didn't kiss.


The advantage of Tangara is the selection. They are not better looking but if you are pressed for time and don't want to wait. This is a good place to be. If the max amount of time you can wait is 30 minutes, if you are at Prime, my experience is that you probably will end up picking someone that you can find at Tangara without waiting. If you have endless time waiting, then you may be able to pick up someone better than what you can find at Tangara. Tangara's setup is more like massage parlor in Bangkok. You can also chat with girls at the courtyard if you speak Portugese.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2607772]My first session here is at Abbobora because I heard it was the best. Probably the least satisfactory session I have had here, partly because I did not know how it works. I went in and out in less than 30 minutes. Only BBBJ, and sex, the girl doesn't kiss.


The advantage of Tangara is the selection. They are not better looking but if you are pressed for time and don't want to wait. This is a good place to be. If the max amount of time you can wait is 30 minutes, if you are at Prime, my experience is that you probably will end up picking someone that you can find at Tangara without waiting. If you have endless time waiting, then you may be able to pick up someone better than what you can find at Tangara. Tangara's setup is more like massage parlor in Bangkok. You can also chat with girls at the courtyard if you speak Portugese.[/QUOTE]I've heard that about Tangará that you can sorta party with beers and the girls a bit. That would be a great vibe. I was early on a Sunday so didn't get that. My biggest turnoff was just the facilities are pretty motel 6. That said hot girls would far outweigh that. I might give it another go. Need the Abbobora fit and finish and the Tangará party atmosphere. Now that would be a Clinica!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2607759]For Guiseppe who is headed to Campinas.

Fazendinha can be hit or miss. I had an amazing time and that is where I met Thifany (who I flew to London) so there are some real keepers there. Others were not impressed. I guess ymmv. A couple years back they had a van that would pick you up in Campinas. Not sure if they still run it but U should check because it's a haul.

Might check out Moustache there in town if you are feeling lazy. When I went early (10) on a weekday it was me and eight girls. I didn't really mind. I found one that I consider a solid nine and she was a wildcat in bed. So again ymmv but maybe you find a gem. We did have to take a taxi to a love hotel because nothing in town.

Have fun![/QUOTE]Thanks Steve! I used to live in Campinas and lived right next to mustache. I Took one girl home from there and was a bad experience (did not do all she said she would) have not gone since. Last time at fazendinha was slow a few years ago so am going with high expectations.

Last night I let my guard down and was punished. I was at Scandalo got there around 10. Did my usual routine and sat with this skinny morena. She was a little to bony for me so let her go. Next I saw probably the cutest face I ever saw. I looked at her for while before she walked over. This petit morena was so sexy I broke a few protocols. I asked if she did BBBJ she said yes but she hesitated usually I would only do short time with that red flag but I was so into her looks I asked about a per noite. She quoted 2 k a would not budge. She was also only 20 which is on low end of what I go for. I should have walked away. Anyway all her enthusiasm went away at the hotel, did not do the BBBJ and wanted to charge extra for basic requests like licking my neck. Be aware of Thais!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2607775]My biggest turnoff was just the facilities are pretty motel 6. [/QUOTE]That is true and the place is a little worn out. But relatively speaking, even Tangara is a step up from all the other South America places I have been to because it provides clean bedsheet and hot shower but without toilet in the room.

The vibe is also different from other clinicas. I think the managers are more friendly. I wouldn't necessarily recommend this place for people with limited time because I think you want to save your energy for better talents that you can't find here.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2607925]That is true and the place is a little worn out. But relatively speaking, even Tangara is a step up from all the other South America places I have been to because it provides clean bedsheet and hot shower but without toilet in the room.

The vibe is also different from other clinicas. I think the managers are more friendly. I wouldn't necessarily recommend this place for people with limited time because I think you want to save your energy for better talents that you can't find here.[/QUOTE]I like when mongers keep it real and tell it like it is. There was another monger (I won't use his name) who would always talk up the facilities at Tangara. I went there and was not impressed. Not that they're bad. But, they aren't particularly standout either. I guess it's a matter of what you're used to. As you say, perhaps the measure is against what you might find relative to other places in the same city or region, or even continent. Now a place like Scandallo, when it comes to facilities, not only is it world class. It sets the international standard for that type of establishment period.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2607885]Last night I let my guard down and was punished. I was at Scandalo got there around 10. Did my usual routine and sat with this skinny morena. She was a little to bony for me so let her go. Next I saw probably the cutest face I ever saw. I looked at her for while before she walked over. This petit morena was so sexy I broke a few protocols. I asked if she did BBBJ she said yes but she hesitated usually I would only do short time with that red flag but I was so into her looks I asked about a per noite. She quoted 2 k a would not budge. She was also only 20 which is on low end of what I go for. I should have walked away. Anyway all her enthusiasm went away at the hotel, did not do the BBBJ and wanted to charge extra for basic requests like licking my neck. Be aware of Thais![/QUOTE]Ouch. Scandallo girls are good at luring you, it requires patience and practice to find a good one from what've experienced. Did you pay her upon arriving at the hotel? Thankfully I got no less than BBBJ in my recent visit, but charging extra for a neck kiss is an insult. I would've paid her a small fee and sent her away. I would sample the goods in Scandallo prior to taking a girl for a pernocte, although other more experienced mongers like señor Anaggie have shared good experiences meeting and taking out a girl during the same try. Good luck on your next visit, I'd wish I was there no matter the outcome, I would be willing to fail a few times myself LOL.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2607885]Last night I let my guard down and was punished. I was at Scandalo got there around 10. Did my usual routine and sat with this skinny morena. She was a little to bony for me so let her go. Next I saw probably the cutest face I ever saw. I looked at her for while before she walked over. This petit morena was so sexy I broke a few protocols. I asked if she did BBBJ she said yes but she hesitated usually I would only do short time with that red flag but I was so into her looks I asked about a per noite. She quoted 2 k a would not budge. She was also only 20 which is on low end of what I go for. I should have walked away. Anyway all her enthusiasm went away at the hotel, did not do the BBBJ and wanted to charge extra for basic requests like licking my neck. Be aware of Thais![/QUOTE]There are a few ways to handle this but when looking for certain acts from the girl you tell them everything upfront and if still unsure tell her you will pay her one price in the room and the rest afterwards if she does everything.

I never pay upfront because the girl can just do whatever or leave early.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2607759]For Guiseppe who is headed to Campinas.

Fazendinha can be hit or miss. I had an amazing time and that is where I met Thifany (who I flew to London) so there are some real keepers there. Others were not impressed. I guess ymmv. A couple years back they had a van that would pick you up in Campinas. Not sure if they still run it but U should check because it's a haul.

Might check out Moustache there in town if you are feeling lazy. When I went early (10) on a weekday it was me and eight girls. I didn't really mind. I found one that I consider a solid nine and she was a wildcat in bed. So again ymmv but maybe you find a gem. We did have to take a taxi to a love hotel because nothing in town.

Have fun![/QUOTE]As planned I went to itatinga and did a drive by to see if there was any gems the girls from galo de Oro were standing outside so did not need to go in. With no prospects headed to fazendinha around 11:30. The club is being remodeled so they had only the outside area. Since it was a little chilly some of the girls had jackets on. There was periodic stripping maybe one every hour. Just shy of 15 girls. There the girls are not allowed to approach the guys but most were sitting so could not get a full appreciation of most. Mostly 6's and 7's but nothing below a 5 and definitely no 9-10's. I have been spoiled in sampa! I had been watching a morena for some time and finally walked over to her. They close at 3 so at around 1:30 got a quote of 600 asked for BBBJ and said yes for additional 200. She was only a 7 and was considering walking away but wanted bounce back from Thursdays fiasco. I did not regret it she was great. Got her number for potential repeat while in Campinas since the scene is not like sp. Originally said her name was Julia but as I was taking her number I confirmed Julia right her response was actually Jessica LOL. I also have Roberta from Scandalo as an option as she is in Campinas all weekend. Roberta was hotter but Jessica does more.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2607885]Last night I let my guard down and was punished. I was at Scandalo got there around 10. Did my usual routine and sat with this skinny morena. She was a little to bony for me so let her go. Next I saw probably the cutest face I ever saw. I looked at her for while before she walked over. This petit morena was so sexy I broke a few protocols. I asked if she did BBBJ she said yes but she hesitated usually I would only do short time with that red flag but I was so into her looks I asked about a per noite. She quoted 2 k a would not budge. She was also only 20 which is on low end of what I go for. I should have walked away. Anyway all her enthusiasm went away at the hotel, did not do the BBBJ and wanted to charge extra for basic requests like licking my neck. Be aware of Thais![/QUOTE]Haha guessing this is a Freudian slip and not untrue! Assume you meant "beware of THIS" as you surely didn't take a Thai at Scandallo. Right?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2608291]Haha guessing this is a Freudian slip and not untrue! Assume you meant "beware of THIS" as you surely didn't take a Thai at Scandallo. Right?[/QUOTE]HaHa I think he meant her name is "Thais". It is a fairly common name in Brazil.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2608136]Ouch. Scandallo girls are good at luring you, it requires patience and practice to find a good one from what've experienced. Did you pay her upon arriving at the hotel? Thankfully I got no less than BBBJ .[/QUOTE]That's the issue with scandallo. Despite paying a high premium, good service is hit or miss. I think my personal percentage of good sessions has been better with CLínica and online girls compared with scandallo girls. Maybe my type which is young white spinners are inexperienced and hesitant to DFK and BBBJ. Last week at scandallo. I talked with red head spinner which was totally my type, a 9. But she wouldn't take less 800 and I got the sense it wasn't going to be a great session. Probably just a optifuck. I had already that day had two very good CLínica one hour session and a great 2 hour session with an online girl at my place. All for around 800. So I passed on the red head because I didn't want have a bad session to end the night. I got her WhatsApp and damn she does look amazing. An optifuck in the states for US $160 is a steal. Hahahahaha. I may to give her outcall when I get back to SP. I would be willing to pay 800 or even 1000, if there was a scandallo one hour service guarantee!

Also the scandallo inside dance lounge as reopened, which is amazing. Live bands. Like it more than the outside Terrance. Not sure of the other days, I went on a Thurs night at 11 pm and the cover was 400 r with 200 consumption.

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2608301]HaHa I think he meant her name is "Thais". It is a fairly common name in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Haha. I guess I knew that. All these years getting with the ladies and I never made the connection that Thais (girls name) = Thais (nationality). Never even occurred to me. Kkkkk.

Can somebody explain all the fuss about Scandallo aka Paradise on Earth? Okay, I understand, the facilities are great, some would say the best in the world, quality of girls is high, 9's and 10's could be found there. But. The place is pricey and you are not guaranteed a good service no matter how much you pay (some recent reports prove that). No fixed rates means you have to negotiate with every single girl you see, and to me, it is a waste of time, I would rather focus on establishing a rapport with a girl rather than trying to bring her rate down which is difficult to do sometimes when her hand is grabbing your cock. When you go to a Terma in Rio, you know what you are going to pay as the rates are fixed. You just need to pick a girl, have a drink or just talk with her to see if you are vibing. If you do, you take her to the room. No negotiations, sad faces, or wasted time. Yes, you can get shitty service there too, but you pay much less, even if you go to a tier-1 terma and you don't waste your time negotiating. Another point, is that girls are obviously pros, they charge you by the hour. This means, the sessions are rushed, the clock is ticking and your girl needs to get back on the floor as soon as possible to have another session with someone else. Or maybe she just fucked someone else right before you. Of course, this applies to all casas / brothels / strip clubs, etc. However, when you pay $250-$300 per session, your expectations are way higher and you don't want to be her 2nd, 3rd, etc guy of the night. Speaking of the facilities, yeah, the restaurant / club / lounge might be nice, but you end up fucking in a small room, which is definitely worse than your hotel room or Airbnb. I personally prefer to fuck in the comfort of my apartment, rather than on site, because the experience is so much better, especially if you are staying at a fancy place.

To sum up, you never know what kind of service you will get for the top dollar you pay. You get nice facilities, decent selection of good looking girls, but YMMV regardless of price.

Am I missing something here?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2608349]Can somebody explain all the fuss about Scandallo aka Paradise on Earth? Okay, I understand, the facilities are great, some would say the best in the world, quality of girls is high, 9's and 10's could be found there. But. The place is pricey and you are not guaranteed a good service no matter how much you pay (some recent reports prove that). No fixed rates means you have to negotiate with every single girl you see, and to me, it is a waste of time, I would rather focus on establishing a rapport with a girl rather than trying to bring her rate down which is difficult to do sometimes when her hand is grabbing your cock. When you go to a Terma in Rio, you know what you are going to pay as the rates are fixed. You just need to pick a girl, have a drink or just talk with her to see if you are vibing. If you do, you take her to the room. No negotiations, sad faces, or wasted time. Yes, you can get shitty service there too, but you pay much less, even if you go to a tier-1 terma and you don't waste your time negotiating. Another point, is that girls are obviously pros, they charge you by the hour. This means, the sessions are rushed, the clock is ticking and your girl needs to get back on the floor as soon as possible to have another session with someone else. Or maybe she just fucked someone else right before you. Of course, this applies to all casas / brothels / strip clubs, etc. However, when you pay $250-$300 per session, your expectations are way higher and you don't want to be her 2nd, 3rd, etc guy of the night. Speaking of the facilities, yeah, the restaurant / club / lounge might be nice, but you end up fucking in a small room, which is definitely worse than your hotel room or Airbnb. I personally prefer to fuck in the comfort of my apartment, rather than on site, because the experience is so much better, especially if you are staying at a fancy place.[/QUOTE]I think your assessment is pretty fair. I have wondered this myself, and talked about it on site with another board member. However, based on my recent trip, I did not see the same quality of girl at a tier 1 terma, Scandallo has hotter girls, or at least dressed better LOL.

IMO, a big part of the appeal, is the fact that you are in a club, and sometimes it's easy to forget that girls are there to make money fucking you. So the environment is setup to make you feel like you've just scored a hot girl at a club, never mind that you are likely overpaying compared to what's available outside the place. It depends on what rocks your boat, if you've been to big clubs in big cities like back in the days The Supper Club or even Marquee in Vegas, I could only imagine been able to just go and tell a girl let's go fuck for 1000 HR and actually do it. There you had to pay way more LOL.

Anyways, what lures me is the challenge of finding a hot girl, scoring a good deal and fucking hopefully pretty good. It's the Scandallo lottery!

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2608349]Can somebody explain all the fuss about Scandallo aka Paradise on Earth? Okay, I understand, the facilities are great, some would say the best in the world, quality of girls is high, 9's and 10's could be found there. But. The place is pricey and you are not guaranteed a good service no matter how much you pay (some recent reports prove that). No fixed rates means you have to negotiate with every single girl you see, and to me, it is a waste of time, I would rather focus on establishing a rapport with a girl rather than trying to bring her rate down which is difficult to do sometimes when her hand is grabbing your cock. When you go to a Terma in Rio, you know what you are going to pay as the rates are fixed. You just need to pick a girl, have a drink or just talk with her to see if you are vibing. If you do, you take her to the room. No negotiations, sad faces, or wasted time. Yes, you can get shitty service there too, but you pay much less, even if you go to a tier-1 terma and you don't waste your time negotiating. Another point, is that girls are obviously pros, they charge you by the hour. This means, the sessions are rushed, the clock is ticking and your girl needs to get back on the floor as soon as possible to have another session with someone else. Or maybe she just fucked someone else right before you. Of course, this applies to all casas / brothels / strip clubs, etc. However, when you pay $250-$300 per session, your expectations are way higher and you don't want to be her 2nd, 3rd, etc guy of the night. Speaking of the facilities, yeah, the restaurant / club / lounge might be nice, but you end up fucking in a small room, which is definitely worse than your hotel room or Airbnb. I personally prefer to fuck in the comfort of my apartment, rather than on site, because the experience is so much better, especially if you are staying at a fancy place.

To sum up, you never know what kind of service you will get for the top dollar you pay. You get nice facilities, decent selection of good looking girls, but YMMV regardless of price.

Am I missing something here?[/QUOTE]Scandalo fans like it because there they can delude themselves that a hot chick is talking, dancing, kissing with them for an hour and then fucking them for an hour because of the guy's charm and good looks, and that the money he gave her was incidental to her doing that.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2608349]Can somebody explain all the fuss about Scandallo aka Paradise on Earth? Okay, I understand, the facilities are great, some would say the best in the world, quality of girls is high, 9's and 10's could be found there. But. The place is pricey and you are not guaranteed a good service no matter how much you pay (some recent reports prove that). No fixed rates means . . .

Am I missing something here?[/QUOTE][b][I]What's all the fuss about Scandallo?[/I][/b] Donno, I've never been there. But I have been to similar establishments like Bomboa, back in the day and had great fun.

[b][I]Are you "missing something", when it comes to Scandallo?[/I][/b] Probably not, as it doesn't appear to be your liking, because it's "pricey", "No fixed rates means you have to negotiate with every single girl you see", girls clock-watching and crappy small rooms.

In your argument or supposition, you put forth a collection of statements that clearly state the way "you like" to monger, and even though, the faciliaties are fantastic and there are 9's and 10's at Scandalo, things just weren't to your liking. So not the paradise you were hoping for.

It's interesting to note, at the opposite end of the spectrum, there's a boat-load of mongers that go to VM (in Rio) and then pose similar questions about VM. Go figure!

Personally I think you've answered your own question. Just because other BMs see Scandallo or VM as great places to monger, doesn't mean you will. We all have differently tastes, techniques, approaches, methodology and styles to the game of mongering.

A better question to consider is, [I]"Where do I find P4P action that best suits my value price, style and comfort zone, when it comes to mongering in SP, RJ?"[/I].

Go find your own paradise.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2608397][b][I]What's all the fuss about Scandallo?[/I][/b] Donno, I've never been there. But I have been to similar establishments like Bomboa, back in the day and had great fun.

[b][I]Are you "missing something", when it comes to Scandallo?[/I][/b] Probably not, as it doesn't appear to be your liking, because it's "pricey", "No fixed rates means you have to negotiate with every single girl you see", girls clock-watching and crappy small rooms.

In your argument or supposition, you put forth a collection of statements that clearly state the way "you like" to monger, and even though, the faciliaties are fantastic and there are 9's and 10's at Scandalo, things just weren't to your liking. So not the paradise you were hoping for.

It's interesting to note, at the opposite end of the spectrum, there's a boat-load of mongers that go to VM (in Rio) and then pose similar questions about VM. Go figure!

Personally I think you've answered your own question. Just because other BMs see Scandallo or VM as great places to monger, doesn't mean you will. We all have differently tastes, techniques, approaches, methodology and styles to the game of mongering.

A better question to consider is, [I]"Where do I find P4P action that best suits my value price, style and comfort zone, when it comes to mongering in SP, RJ?"[/I].

Go find your own paradise.[/QUOTE]Great response Spidy! Could not have said it better!

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2608394]Scandalo fans like it because there they can delude themselves that a hot chick is talking, dancing, kissing with them for an hour and then fucking them for an hour because of the guy's charm and good looks, and that the money he gave her was incidental to her doing that.[/QUOTE]I never thought I would say that, but JB hit the nail on the head.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2608394]Scandalo fans like it because there they can delude themselves that a hot chick is talking, dancing, kissing with them for an hour and then fucking them for an hour because of the guy's charm and good looks, and that the money he gave her was incidental to her doing that.[/QUOTE]This is not a very useful or helpful answer at all. I'm not going to speak for other mongers who like Scandallo, but I know darn well that I'm not deluding myself of anything. No, rather I know what I like, and I keep it real at all times! Now, if you're the kind of monger who likes to go to places where you have to worry about cum on the railings or stepping in feces or urine, have at it brother! But, if you like a classy place offering sexual access to some incredibly hot women doing some pretty dirty things in the room, then join me at Scandallo! At the end of the day, I think that normally some place in the middle more than suffices on most occasions. But when in Sao Paulo, man you better believe I'm going to treat myself to at least a couple of pleasurable nights at Scandallo. [B]The baddest puta palace on the planet![/B].

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2608349]Can somebody explain all the fuss about Scandallo aka Paradise on Earth? Okay, I understand, the facilities are great, some would say the best in the world, quality of girls is high, 9's and 10's could be found there. But. The place is pricey and you are not guaranteed a good

Am I missing something here?[/QUOTE]Not at all. Like Mr. Spidy said — you answered all the questions yourself. I have been to Centaurus, 4 x4, Bomboa and Scandello and I can say that the girls in Rio aren't as hot or as polished as the girls in SP. I am currently talking to the girl I was with the last time I was in Scandello and we are working out the deal for my next trip where I will have her with me.

From a Wednesday to Sunday with a weekend in Buzios.

I personally prefer a girl "on tap" while I am in Brazil. I would rather not keep heading to different places and hope there are girls that fit my type for an hour session. If I feel like rolling over in the morning and sticking my dick into a nice tight pussy. Well I want that pussy to be open, wet and tight 🤣.

I have personally had good luck at places like Scandello and Bomboa and think they are absolutely worth it.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2608322] ...talked with red head spinner which was totally my type, a 9. But she wouldn't take less 800 and I got the sense it wasn't going to be a great session.
...[/QUOTE]Does she speak very good English? If so, probably the same one we met, well traveled, we passed on her.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2608407]I never thought I would say that, but JB hit the nail on the head.[/QUOTE]I am sorry, but I absolutely disagree with those statements. Nobody is fooling themselves here, getting expensive chocolates and that's it. The Cane did a great job elaborating 8 n his message below.

I don't understand how you folks come here and make statements that are totally wrong!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2608412]This is not a very useful or helpful answer at all. I'm not going to speak for other mongers who like Scandallo, but I know darn well that I'm not deluding myself of anything. No, rather I know what I like, and I keep it real at all times! Now, if you're the kind of monger who likes to go to places where you have to worry about cum on the railings or stepping in feces or urine, have at it brother! But, if you like a classy place offering sexual access to some incredibly hot women doing some pretty dirty things in the room, then join me at Scandallo! At the end of the day, I think that normally some place in the middle more than suffices on most occasions. But when in Sao Paulo, man you better believe I'm going to treat myself to at least a couple of pleasurable nights at Scandallo. [B]The baddest puta palace on the planet![/B].[/QUOTE]Has anyone ever had a mind blowing sex at Scandallo? A session that you would remember for the rest of your life? We all discuss how nice the facilities are and how hot the girls are, but nobody said anything about the level of service when you are one on one in a room, and how the service is compared to that of other establishments.

When I go to a fancy steakhouse I expect an attentive service and delicious meal. I expect a food orgasm. I don't go there to just fill up my stomach. Might be pricey, but I get what I pay for.

When I go to a place like Scandallo, which is probably the most upscale and expensive in town, I expect to have a fantastic, mind blowing session with a girl that knocks my socks off. I don't care how nice the place is, or how hot the girls are, if I get a lame CBJ and a rushed session I will leave disappointed and not wanting to come back. The question is not if Scandallo is pricey or not, the question is. Do you get what you pay for?

When Senor Sperto and JB agree, it is usually not just truth, but worthy of a report of distinction!

[QUOTE=Sperto;2608407]I never thought I would say that, but JB hit the nail on the head.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2608301]HaHa I think he meant her name is "Thais". It is a fairly common name in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Yes her name is Thais! As good as she looks never want to see her again!

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2608136]Ouch. Scandallo girls are good at luring you, it requires patience and practice to find a good one from what've experienced. Did you pay her upon arriving at the hotel? Thankfully I got no less than BBBJ in my recent visit, but charging extra for a neck kiss is an insult. I would've paid her a small fee and sent her away. I would sample the goods in Scandallo prior to taking a girl for a pernocte, although other more experienced mongers like seor Anaggie have shared good experiences meeting and taking out a girl during the same try. Good luck on your next visit, I'd wish I was there no matter the outcome, I would be willing to fail a few times myself LOL.[/QUOTE]I did pay her upon arrival. Several lessons learned on this one. I had had good experiences at scandalo so as I said I let my guard down for several reasons. I will go back to Scandalo for the variety and the quality. Just need to follow protocols.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2608465]Has anyone ever had a mind blowing sex at Scandallo? A session that you would remember for the rest of your life? We all discuss how nice the facilities are and how hot the girls are, but nobody said anything about the level of service when you are one on one in a room, and how the service is compared to that of other establishments.

When I go to a fancy steakhouse I expect an attentive service and delicious meal. I expect a food orgasm. I don't go there to just fill up my stomach. Might be pricey, but I get what I pay for.

When I go to a place like Scandallo, which is probably the most upscale and expensive in town, I expect to have a fantastic, mind blowing session with a girl that knocks my socks off. I don't care how nice the place is, or how hot the girls are, if I get a lame CBJ and a rushed session I will leave disappointed and not wanting to come back. The question is not if Scandallo is pricey or not, the question is. Do you get what you pay for?[/QUOTE]Let me start by saying that I am in the Cane and Spidy camp. If you don't like it then don't go. No need to claim it's lame. Others like me adore it. And yes it's largely about the total experience, not just the fucking. And that matters to me. I am not ashamed to admit I love Seeking Arrangement in the US for the same reason. Yes it's a fuck ton of work but you get the full experience including amazing sex with super hot girls if you put in the investment.

Ok back to your question. Yes I have had absolutely mind blowing sex with a legit 9. 5 at Scandallo. Andressa. Still think about her. Amazing DFK, top five BBBJ, fab sex the whole package. That said it's not always that. I've had good to great experiences with 7's and 8's with great DFK and BBBJ. Never had a Scandallo girl try to pull a CBJ on me.

I will say I have an unfair advantage because again I invested. I learned Portuguese to a pretty good level for light conversation. My "date" with Andressa was 100% Portuguese. This was not easy. I did it only to be able to have a better time with the girls when I visit. Simple investment with commensurate reward. IMO.

Summary: To each his own. Yes there is variance but I personally have never had a bad experience at Scandallo. It's not pricey if you have money. And yes I have had mind blowing sex there; but that is not the main draw.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2608465]Has anyone ever had a mind blowing sex at Scandallo? A session that you would remember for the rest of your life? We all discuss how nice the facilities are and how hot the girls are, but nobody said anything about the level of service when you are one on one in a room, and how the service is compared to that of other establishments.

When I go to a fancy steakhouse I expect an attentive service and delicious meal. I expect a food orgasm. I don't go there to just fill up my stomach. Might be pricey, but I get what I pay for.

When I go to a place like Scandallo, which is probably the most upscale and expensive in town, I expect to have a fantastic, mind blowing session with a girl that knocks my socks off. I don't care how nice the place is, or how hot the girls are, if I get a lame CBJ and a rushed session I will leave disappointed and not wanting to come back. The question is not if Scandallo is pricey or not, the question is. Do you get what you pay for?[/QUOTE]My best session ever was with a Scandalo girl! So yes to your question. But Scandalo is the venue and the girls are independent workers. That is where the due diligence comes in. My report of Thais was not a criticism of Scandalo you can get scammed anywhere.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2608394]Scandalo fans like it because there they can delude themselves that a hot chick is talking, dancing, kissing with them for an hour and then fucking them for an hour because of the guy's charm and good looks, and that the money he gave her was incidental to her doing that.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Lefeu;2608457]I am sorry, but I absolutely disagree with those statements. Nobody is fooling themselves here, getting expensive chocolates and that's it. The Cane did a great job elaborating 8 n his message below.

I don't understand how you folks come here and make statements that are totally wrong![/QUOTE]That is exactly right, Lefeu! The vast majority of Boate customers are not fooling themselves about anything. Most club patrons understand the game and come to Scandalo and places like it to mix it up and have a good time with some very sexy and accommodating girls I. E. Club FL's. What's wrong with that? LOL. It is not complicated.

But not everyone has the same tastes. It takes all kinds and that is the way it should be. So, there will always be some guys, who for one reason or another, don't dig Scandalo and places like it. That's fine. Don't go there if you don't like the place. Go where you like.

Me: I can enjoy an afternoon session with a clinica girl for 240 br but I can also enjoy going out at night to a Boate, clubbing it, have a few drinks, find the right girl or girls, and wind up spending a lot more money. I am under no delusions. I just like to have a goodtime and I know what I like when I see it.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2608465]Has anyone ever had a mind blowing sex at Scandallo? A session that you would remember for the rest of your life? [/QUOTE]I personally think that is not something you can buy but you have to play a part to make it happen.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2608465]The question is not if Scandallo is pricey or not, the question is. Do you get what you pay for?[/QUOTE]I think so. I don't go there thinking I have to fuck someone. I enjoy the place as it is when I choose to go. I will be here long enough so I don't have the urgency. The price of the girl is not that expensive even if you pay 800. She still have to pay Scandallo 250 or more to get in and stays at least 8 hours there.

And really you should enjoy the club and take advantage of what it has to offer if you are in the club. Don't do the same thing like it is a Clinica. Have fun with the girl first like Steve suggested before, this will improve your session later, and drop her if it doesn't go well. If you don't like it this way, Scandallo probably is not for you.

The hottest girl I met here is an in-call, R$600. I think she is new and only worked a few weeks to make some money. She was confident enough to tell me I could say goodbye and leave if I didnt like her. She rented a service apartment with small bed, no towel so we didn't shower before and after. That really put a damper on things. I showed her picture to another member who said he saw two like her at Scandallo. That tells you you can find hot ones in Scandallo but not as many as you think

[QUOTE=Nounce;2608450]Does she speak very good English? If so, probably the same one we met, well traveled, we passed on her.[/QUOTE]Same one then! She spoke almost perfect English. I was impressed that she self learned two years ago online. She forced herself to think in English. But then she said she was worth more than the other girls because of her English skills. She plans on touring the world and probably a lot of men will pay a lot for her.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2608474]..I learned Portuguese to a pretty good level for light conversation...[/QUOTE]My Portuguese is poor but I talked to a girl without translator today. I saw a street girl and I thought she was hot but I have to take a closer look so I doubled back to check her out. Not bad looking but has some minor flaw on her face. She was slander and tall so I was wondering if she was a tranny. She told me she was a female and the voice sounded female too. I asked how much, she told me 50 are for her and 5 are for the hotel. I said no, and she gave me a high five.

Just finished a 4 days / 3 nights trip to SP and I am hooked. This was supposed to be my last trip to Brazil for 2021, but I had so much fun that I've decided to cancel my European and Mexican trips in 2021 and come back to SP 2 more times in 2021!

Part of the fun this trip was meeting up with some ISG bros and hanging out with cool, like- minded guys. Shout out to Bearsi, MixedSalad07 and Trojan22!

I personally don't agree with the recent negative comments regarding Scandallo, especially from those who state they've never set foot in the place. I get that the higher cost and lesser "value" one gets from Scandallo as compared to other venues isn't for everyone. But like they say "different strokes for different folks".

Everyone's circumstances, tastes, experiences and approach is different. I would never knock or disparage anyone for going at it or seeing things differently than me.

But for me, I've been to no better place in Brazil. And I dare say the world for top quality P4 P. The selection in Scandallo is immense, the quality of the girls is insane, the average service of Brazilian women is second to none and with a strong US dollar vs. The Real, the value is currently incredible.

I've had multiple fantastic visits to Scandallo on each of my last three trips to Brazil this year and it gets better each time. Maybe I've been lucky with my choice of girls or that SP and Scandallo has been less restrictive on each of my subsequent visits, with regards to COVID-19, so more talent is working / available.

I know everything is YYMV in this hobby and your personality, looks, charisma, interview / negotiating game and pure blind luck can factor a lot more in Scandallo / other boates than at a fixed cost locale with a set roster / lineup like a clinica or RJ Terma. With that said, I had 3 back to back to back amazing pernoites during this trip in SP.

Day 1:

I had planned to hit up clinicas by day and boates (mostly Scandallo) at night, but the best laid plans go out the window once boots are on the ground. I had an amazing time with a Scandallo girl my last trip and we had initially scheduled to meet up the last night of this trip. However, she had a family conflict that day and we reschedued to my first night in town.

I met up with a couple of ISG bros the first day and we checked out some Moema clinicas. There was at least one girl at each Clinica that I would have taken to the room (Enjoy, Abbobora, Miruna, 57 Friends and Prime), but I passed at each as my Scandallo girl said she was horny and wanted to meet earlier than planned in the afternoon so I went back to my hotel in Jardin Paulista for an afternoon romp before dinner.

After dinner, we decided to hit up Scandallo to hang and party with Bearsi and Trojan22. It was R200 cover and R200 min consumption. The club was pretty packed on this Thursday night and I got to see the newly reopened disco / dance area. They had a live band and they really worked up the crowd. There was lots of hot girls and if I didn't have a date for the night already, I'd have no trouble finding a girl that suited my tastes. We called it a night at around midnight and went back to the hotel for a nightcap and a roll in the sack.

We slept in late and I was awoken by a gentle BJ and her riding me to a nice O. We then went for lunch amd some shopping before heading back to the hotel for one last afternoon romp before she went to visit her sister for the weekend. I paid her R1,000, which was same as last trip, per day / night.

Day 2:

I then took a nap and decided to check out some clinicas in Brooklin and Moema before dinner. Once again, I saw as least 1 or 2 prospects at each clinica (Kin plus the previous 5 from Day 1). I passed on them, as I still wasn't fully recovered from my afternoon pop. I headed to Bomboa to meet up MixedSalad07, Bearsi and Trojan22. Bomboa had better talent this time than my previous visit in June. There were 4-5 girls that I thought about taking to a room, but I was full from dinner. Instead, I got the digits of the hottest 2 girls for potential hookups at the end of my trip.

The ISG boys and I eventually hit up Connections after some food and drinks (and a room with a girl for one of them) at Bomboa. Connections is a sister club to Scandallo, and everything was just a tad lower. From facilities to size to quantity and quality of the talent. The distance from Moema or Jardin Paulista is also a lot farther than Scandallo. The cover and room cost was also lower than Scandallo (R50 before 7 and R100 after 7 with R50 being consumption. Room was R180 for 60 min). The only thing I found to be bigger was the music / noise. There were some decent talent, but I found them to be more of the porn star look with big T&A and a sluttier vibe.

We each eventually found a girl to our liking and chatted them up. My girl was a petite morena and reminded me of Vanessa Hudgens. We had decent chemistry and she spoke some English. She was firm with R1,500 for pernoite and I almost took a pass, especially as it was near last call. She did try to convince me she was worth it with some nice preview make out and gripping. I eventually relented when she agreed to some PSE additions and off we went back to the hotel. It was R200 to the club for takeout.

She delivered on the service end and tired me out. She was a super passionate GFE / PSE and left me drained. We dozed off and once again, I was awoken by a nice BJ. Her oral was one of the best I've ever had. Great pressure, sloppy, wet, lots of DT, BLS and with endurance and gusto. She got me to a BBBJCSNS, which is rare and speaks volumes to get oral skills. I offered her breakfast, but she had class soon so we said our goodbyes and I went back to sleep.

Neither Bomboa not Connections can compare to Scandallo in quantity and quality of talent, but I preferred what I saw at Bomboa over Connections, even though Connections had more space and more girls.

Day 3:

I woke up from my nap famished so I headed to a local mall for a late lunch and some last minute shopping. I then headed to Scandallo for my last night in town and barely beat the 7 pm cutoff for cheaper cover. MixedSalad07 had also just arrived and we hooked up to grab a drink. Cover before 7 pm was R50 with R150 minimum consumption. It was R230 for 60 min room rental. It was R250 to take a girl out of the club.

As we walked out to the patio, a tall modeleque girl greeted us with her friend. We chatted and I found her English to be fantastic. We eventually had dinner at Scandallo and then went back to my hotel for a pernoite. The sex was good. Like sensual GFE with an old flame. To mix it up, I woke her up with oral and then we proceeded to fuck each others brains out before breakfast in bed. She was the girl I had the most fun with. I paid her R1,500.

Day 4:

After she left, I met up with MixedSalad07 and Trojan22 at a sports bar to hang and watch some NFL. We caught up with each others' adventures and traded hobbying stories. I had to cut out after a couple of hours as I had one last appointment before my flight in the evening.

I had scheduled an 2 hour session with one of the girls from Bomboa before my flight. She was an hour late and I thought of sending her back home with just Uber fare. However, once she arrived and I saw how much effort she made in dressing up and dolling herself up, I went with plan be. She was apologetic about her tardiness and said she would make it up to me. I wanted transparency and we renegotiated an increase in her service levels. She delivered as promised and left me wanting more, as I usually like to take it slow and have lots of foreplay. Our time ended up feeling a bit rushed and felt a bit like a wham, bam, thank you ma'am scenario. I paid her R500 + Uber.

Lasting thoughts:

As I left for the airport, I envied the other ISG bros I met who were in town for 2 weeks. That's when I decided to shuffle my other hobbying trips later this year over to SP.

I had a great time in SP. The gastronomy scene is incredible and cheap due to the exchange rate. Ate at a few Michelin star restaurant at a fraction of what it cost in the US. Has 3 amazing overnights at a cost of between R1,000 to R1,500 each, which is about the cost for 30 min session in NYC / MIA / LA / SEA!

The overnights actually left me very little energy, need or desire for afternoon clinicas, as I would have morning and sometimes afternoon sex with the girls I took for an overnight. The way the girls price overnights in Brazil, as compared to 1 hour sessions, is so much better than in Western countries (US, Canada ams Europe).

If I had the time, freedom / flexibility to visit Brazil for long stretches, I'd definitely learn more Porto and spend more time in RJ or visiting clinicas in SP. Until then, I'll just have to "settle" for spending most of my time at Scandallo, where one gets whiplash from checking out the talent. I will keep "overpaying" at Scandallo or other boates for incredible overnights with super sensual and service oriented Brazilian hotties. Until my return next month (10-13 to 10-19 for those interested in meeting up), happy and safe mongering to those still in Paradise / Brazil!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2608483]My Portuguese is poor but I talked to a girl without translator today.[/QUOTE]I don't speak Portuguese, but I do speak Spanish, which definitely helps (along with a good translation app). So, although obviously having Portuguese is a big advantage, you don't need it in order to have a good time in Brazil. This has been discussed ad nauseam in these threads. And although Steve and I are big proponents of Scandallo, we aren't exactly the same kind of monger, including the type of girls we go for. I'm less about the "investment in the experience" than Steve is. I mean I'm never going to be spending time and money on Seeking Arrangement. What I'm trying to say is that when I go to Scandallo, yes I enjoy the facilities and all that, but my principal purpose for going there is to fuck hot girls. And if the place didn't deliver on the type of sex and service level that I want, then I would not go there, no matter how nice it is otherwise. That's what I'm saying. For me, Scandallo delivers on both the facilities [B]and[/B] the fucking. And I for one have been saying that for years to anyone who is open to hearing it.

Although having been to SP on several occasions I have never been to Scandallo so really cannot chip in as to its attributes or disadvantages. However, what I have observed is that it is the most hyped club on ISG. The superlatives are greater than what is stated on Globe FKK in Switzerland, Sharks FKK in Germany, Rio Sauna in Macau or Malioboro in Indonesia. So I have put Scandallo on my to go list; I am basically a bedroom action guy and will not be wowed by the glitz and glamor but if the girls are hotter than those in clinicas then I will be sold.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2608646]Although having been to SP on several occasions I have never been to Scandallo so really cannot chip in as to its attributes or disadvantages. However, what I have observed is that it is the most hyped club on ISG. The superlatives are greater than what is stated on Globe FKK in Switzerland, Sharks FKK in Germany, Rio Sauna in Macau or Malioboro in Indonesia. So I have put Scandallo on my to go list; I am basically a bedroom action guy and will not be wowed by the glitz and glamor but if the girls are hotter than those in clinicas then I will be sold.[/QUOTE]I don't know when you plan to go, but depending on when, remember that you have to take into account the "pandemic effect". Things still have not returned to 100%. That's still impacting worldwide lineups.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2607885]Last night I let my guard down and was punished. I was at Scandalo got there around 10. Did my usual routine and sat with this skinny morena. She was a little to bony for me so let her go. Next I saw probably the cutest face I ever saw. I looked at her for while before she walked over. This petit morena was so sexy I broke a few protocols. I asked if she did BBBJ she said yes but she hesitated usually I would only do short time with that red flag but I was so into her looks I asked about a per noite. She quoted 2 k a would not budge. She was also only 20 which is on low end of what I go for. I should have walked away. Anyway all her enthusiasm went away at the hotel, did not do the BBBJ and wanted to charge extra for basic requests like licking my neck. Be aware of Thais![/QUOTE]I appreciate you reporting this. I know it is not fun reporting bad experiences here but I encourage you to continue reporting your experiences as is. If you don't like how board members react to such reports or the reputation you are building for yourself then you could make few adjustments to fix it.

First, switch to Brad Pitt style reporting. We all know, and it is almost an universal truth, that Brad Pitt always gets THE hottie and never gets anything less than spectacular service, right? Hotties just jump on him as soon he walks into an establishment, they spend hours and hours talking, flirting, kissing and practically fucking him right in there etc. With no expectation of making money. They all hope he picks them but all of them are content with his kiss goodbye at the end of the day / night and go home happily empty handed dreaming about the amazing time spent with him. The lucky hottie (s) he takes to the room more often refuses to take any money or take very little amount. You need to understand, that's what Brad Pitts do to these hotties, they make them act completely act against their self interest of making money for selling their body. With this style of reporting, board members will adore you and you will cement the reputation of a being a Stud.

Second, this requires some attitude adjustment. You need to change how you perceive the service received. No matter the quality of the service you receive, just pretend that you had received an amazing service. See, problem solved. You then can write a Brad Pitt style report here.

Lastly, you don't report anything here. Just share all sorts other bullshit in the world except report things what this site is meant for.

I hope you be true to yourself and continue to report your experiences, good or bad. How can one avoid a place if everyone chooses to report only good experiences and leave out bad ones.

I am sure you will learn from this experience and try to be bit careful next time like most of us do.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2608646]Although having been to SP on several occasions I have never been to Scandallo so really cannot chip in as to its attributes or disadvantages. However, what I have observed is that it is the most hyped club on ISG. The superlatives are greater than what is stated on Globe FKK in Switzerland, Sharks FKK in Germany, Rio Sauna in Macau or Malioboro in Indonesia. So I have put Scandallo on my to go list; I am basically a bedroom action guy and will not be wowed by the glitz and glamor but if the girls are hotter than those in clinicas then I will be sold.[/QUOTE]I have not mongered in Asia but have experience with all other places you have mentioned and Scandallo. Scandallo is an unique and amazing place with hundreds of girls and luxurious atmosphere. I have not seen girls in such high number in any other places I had visited. There is so much choice, in beauty as well as price. Girls may quite very high price but you can negotiate them down to reasonable levels (400+). How low you can get the girl to come down to depends on how hot and popular she is and how much time left before club closing. Everyone here should visit the club at least once. There is no problem finding many girls hotter than the ones found in clinicas. Price / value is entirely different story.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2608652]I don't know when you plan to go, but depending on when, remember that you have to take into account the "pandemic effect". Things still have not returned to 100%. That's still impacting worldwide lineups.[/QUOTE]I agree. It is getting better. The girl numbers and quality has improved a lot during my recent trip compared to my trip back in May. Hopefully that trend continues.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2608480]Same one then! She spoke almost perfect English. I was impressed that she self learned two years ago online. She forced herself to think in English. But then she said she was worth more than the other girls because of her English skills. She plans on touring the world and probably a lot of men will pay a lot for her.[/QUOTE]She told us, me and another ISG member, that she learned English to work overseas. From that moment, everything she said devalue her in my mind. She also worked for agency when she worked overseas. Since I am familiar with what she talked about, I started to calculate how many men she fucked a month. So you see where this is going. She also doesn't do BBBJ because too many disease. When they fuck a lot, often that is what they think about. I met an in-call last night. I canceled the session on the spot because she did not do BBBJ and was saying the same thing about having sex with too many men and disease. I hope I have not ruined your appetite. I do think she won't have problem getting customer every night based on her look alone

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2608689]
First, switch to Brad Pitt style reporting... [/QUOTE]Very funny, LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2608646]Although having been to SP on several occasions I have never been to Scandallo so really cannot chip in as to its attributes or disadvantages. However, what I have observed is that it is the most hyped club on ISG. The superlatives are greater than what is stated on Globe FKK in Switzerland, Sharks FKK in Germany, Rio Sauna in Macau or Malioboro in Indonesia. So I have put Scandallo on my to go list; I am basically a bedroom action guy and will not be wowed by the glitz and glamor but if the girls are hotter than those in clinicas then I will be sold.[/QUOTE]I wish Scandallo had a Globe format. That would truly be paradise! The prices are about the same when you take everything into account. But in Globe the girls are naked and there is a service guarantee. Globe girls are expected to DFK and BBBJ. I met a girl who worked at globe but she left because she keep up the service requirements. Apparently she was tired of men who were older than grandpa complaining that her DFK wasn't passionate enough.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2608551]... What I'm trying to say is that when I go to Scandallo, yes I enjoy the facilities and all that, but my principal purpose for going there is to fuck hot girls. And if the place didn't deliver on the type of sex and service level that I want, then I would not go there, no matter how nice it is otherwise. That's what I'm saying. For me, Scandallo delivers on both the facilities [B]and[/B] the fucking. And I for one have been saying that for years to anyone who is open to hearing it.[/QUOTE]Agreed, the problem being not everyone see lots of 10's or 9's, If someone is focusing on that, like I was the first time, I was disappointed. So I step back, remove that pressure and I always end up having a good time with someone. An added benefit is that I am also in a stronger position to get what I want. Also by consensus, the place is full of 9's and 10's, so anyone I pull is 9's and 10's regardless what I think, right?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2608646]Although having been to SP on several occasions I have never been to Scandallo so really cannot chip in as to its attributes or disadvantages. However, what I have observed is that it is the most hyped club on ISG. The superlatives are greater than what is stated on Globe FKK in Switzerland, Sharks FKK in Germany, Rio Sauna in Macau or Malioboro in Indonesia. So I have put Scandallo on my to go list; I am basically a bedroom action guy and will not be wowed by the glitz and glamor but if the girls are hotter than those in clinicas then I will be sold.[/QUOTE]It is safe to say most will agree on the top 10%. What we don't all agree on is the rest of 90%. I see at least 50% are average while some see 90% as above 8. You will have to make your own judgement.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2608652]I don't know when you plan to go, but depending on when, remember that you have to take into account the "pandemic effect". Things still have not returned to 100%. That's still impacting worldwide lineups.[/QUOTE]I've just about had my fill here repeating hookers rated 5 resulting in decreased libido. Pandemic or not I'm ready to travel. I'm now in the process of deciding where.

As much as I love Scandallo, there are many good points made by others who prefer to hobby elsewhere.

1) I agree that the top 5-10% of the talent at Scandallo looks-wise outshines what you would normally find at other boates, Tier 1 Termas, or clinicas. There are of course exceptions to the rule, but the top talent elsewhere in Brazil on average can not match the top talent at Scandallo. At least for my taste. For the other 80-90% of the talent, you can easily find them or similar in looks at cheaper venues. So unless you need the top 5-10%, shopping elsewhere gets you a lot more bang for your buck.

2) Scandallo is so well known as a high end classy places that you get many women who are educated professionals working here. Gals just dipping their toes into this or doing it short term wouldn't consider working elsewhere, but would consider working at Scandallo due to potential higher income, higher-end / richer clientele, etc. I've met quite a few professionals (doctors, lawyers, published models, other "pink book" gals, etc.) at Scandallo. I can't imagine meeting the same type of girls at a Moema clinica with any regularity. If these type of women don't interest or aren't important to you, you can find more value elsewhere.

3) There is a higher chance of finding an English speaking girl at Scandallo than at other venues, as there are quite a few college educated professionals working here. If language skills is an important consideration for you in choosing a girl (it is for me), then you have many more choices at Scandallo. I've been told by many girls that the amount of professionals working bar Scandallo is quite high. I guess they don't pay their doctors, nurses, and lawyers, etc. Enough in SP. If you can speak Porto, then other places might offer cheaper alternatives.

4) Us foreign tourists are a super minority of patrons here. I am told by girls that 95-99% of the clientele are locals. That means they are rich guys who isn't taking advantage of a weak Real. What we do or spend barely have any effect on the market. It's the locals that do. And from recent experiences, the market is a lot cheaper than pre pandemic, and that is excluding the exchange rate as a consideration. Once you consider the weak Real, it's a fucking monger's paradise, where even middle-class blokes from outside of Brazil can afford to party like kings without breaking the bank.

5) The place is decorated well and the facilities are nice. I can understand many do don't care for it and don't want to pony up for the ambiance, etc. I only did one room in their hotel next door and found it to be nothing special, especially when the lights are low.

So if you are mostly looking to just find a hot girl and bang her in-house, paying R230 for a room on top of a cover and minimum consumption. Plus whatever you negotiate with the girl. That might seem excessive and not a good value.

However, if you want to chill, drink and / or eat in a higher end environment, be able to have a HUGE selection of hot girls to choose from and eventually take her back to your hotel, Scandallo can't be beat.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2608762]I wish Scandallo had a Globe format. That would truly be paradise! The prices are about the same when you take everything into account. But in Globe the girls are naked and there is a service guarantee. Globe girls are expected to DFK and BBBJ. I met a girl who worked at globe but she left because she keep up the service requirements. Apparently she was tired of men who were older than grandpa complaining that her DFK wasn't passionate enough.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to globe in 2-3 years, but that math doesn't add up from my 4-5 x there. Last I recall, it was 140 CHF for 30 min and 70 CHF admission. So for 60 min room, it's 350 CHF. Which is R2,000. You can easily get a girl at Scandallo for under R1 k all-in (including cover, min consumption and room fee).

I do like the FKK all nude concept, as you can see the full figure out the girls and they have a harder time hiding flaws. With that said, I also enjoy a nightclub feel too as it allows for more dancing, drinking and making out.

I also found their public sex Tuesdays quite interesting, even though I wasn't willing to participate.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2608551]I don't speak Portuguese, but I do speak Spanish, which definitely helps (along with a good translation app). So, although obviously having Portuguese is a big advantage, you don't need it in order to have a good time in Brazil. This has been discussed ad nauseam in these threads. And although Steve and I are big proponents of Scandallo, we aren't exactly the same kind of monger, including the type of girls we go for. I'm less about the "investment in the experience" than Steve is. I mean I'm never going to be spending time and money on Seeking Arrangement. What I'm trying to say is that when I go to Scandallo, yes I enjoy the facilities and all that, but my principal purpose for going there is to fuck hot girls. And if the place didn't deliver on the type of sex and service level that I want, then I would not go there, no matter how nice it is otherwise. That's what I'm saying. For me, Scandallo delivers on both the facilities [B]and[/B] the fucking. And I for one have been saying that for years to anyone who is open to hearing it.[/QUOTE]Guys,

I appreciate reading all of the suggestions, recommendations and experiences around SP, Scandallo and all of the other haunts there. I'm planning my first adventure there based solely on the readings from ISG. I was a regular to Macau when traveling to Asia and Panama City when traveling south. Prior to Covid, Panama City had a jewel in the rough "Habanos" which was loaded w nuggets from South America. No need to fly an additional 8 hours with so many beauties there. See my previous posts. But with Panama still in eternal lockdown, going further south to enjoy the Talent of Brazil is now a must. Just few questions from boots on the ground. Is proof of Covid vaccine mandatory or any Covid protocol required upon entering GRU airport? Departing protocol?

Staying in Moema Mercure Times based on previous reviews. Is Uber the best way to navigate from GRU to Moema or will the "white" taxi be ok? Planning on rampaging thru the Clinics during the day along w Private 55 dates and Scandallo in the early afternoon for happy hour. From reading the posts, I haven't seen how far Mercure hotel is from Scandallo? Any update?? Tons of other questions but the amazing reviews have answered most of them. Any other suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I'll give thorough details and reviews to assist future travelers to SP.

If you like Habanos, you'll think the Sampa boates are paradise. More selection, hotter girls and despite what some have said here, better service. I had a hard time getting BBBJ from the hottest girls at Habanos. I was never refused GFE anywhere in SP, except in one clinica. It was my fault as I didn't make clear the expected service level ahead of time, I just assumed. I got lazy.

Don't just go to Scandallo either. Bomboa, Connection are less luxe but are just as good as Habanos Pre-Covid. If Cafe Photo is still open, I'the even venture a trip. It was the grandaddy of them all back in the day.

Uber is fine to and from the airport. It can be a long drive depending on the time of day. Uber to Scandallo is about 25 minutes, again depending on traffic.

Please share your experiences with P55 etc. Gp-guia can be confusing regarding current reviews. São Paulo has sooo many options for sex it's ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Trifecta68;2608990]Guys,

I appreciate reading all of the suggestions, recommendations and experiences around SP, Scandallo and all of the other haunts there. I'm planning my first adventure there based solely on the readings from ISG. I was a regular to Macau when traveling to Asia and Panama City when traveling south. Prior to Covid, Panama City had a jewel in the rough "Habanos" which was loaded w nuggets from South America. No need to fly an additional 8 hours with so many beauties there. See my previous posts. But with Panama still in eternal lockdown, going further south to enjoy the Talent of Brazil is now a must. Just few questions from boots on the ground. Is proof of Covid vaccine mandatory or any Covid protocol required upon entering GRU airport? Departing protocol?

Staying in Moema Mercure Times based on previous reviews. Is Uber the best way to navigate from GRU to Moema or will the "white" taxi be ok? Planning on rampaging thru the Clinics during the day along w Private 55 dates and Scandallo in the early afternoon for happy hour. From reading the posts, I haven't seen how far Mercure hotel is from Scandallo? Any update?? Tons of other questions but the amazing reviews have answered most of them. Any other suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I'll give thorough details and reviews to assist future travelers to SP.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2609049]If you like Habanos, you'll think the Sampa boates are paradise. More selection, hotter girls and despite what some have said here, better service. I had a hard time getting BBBJ from the hottest girls at Habanos. I was never refused GFE anywhere in SP, except in one clinica. It was my fault as I didn't make clear the expected service level ahead of time, I just assumed. I got lazy.

Don't just go to Scandallo either. Bomboa, Connection are less luxe but are just as good as Habanos Pre-Covid. If Cafe Photo is still open, I'the even venture a trip. It was the grandaddy of them all back in the day.

Uber is fine to and from the airport. It can be a long drive depending on the time of day. Uber to Scandallo is about 25 minutes, again depending on traffic.

Please share your experiences with P55 etc. Gp-guia can be confusing regarding current reviews. So Paulo has sooo many options for sex it's ridiculous.[/QUOTE]What he said! I also have Panama City experience under my belt, and Habanos is not in the same league as a Scandallo in terms of both the facilities [B]and[/B] the quality of the girls and the service they provide. And absolutely do check out the other top night haunts as well. Not to be missed! In Sampa it's clinicas by day and boates at night!

[QUOTE=Trifecta68;2608990]Is Uber the best way to navigate from GRU to Moema or will the "white" taxi be ok?[/QUOTE]I use both taxis and Uber in Sao Paulo. They are both cheap, but after one pretty bad experience with Uber going to the airport, I always use Guarucoop from the airport to my hotel and a taxi from the hotel to the airport.

[QUOTE=Trifecta68;2608990]Guys,

I appreciate reading all of the suggestions, recommendations and experiences around SP, Scandallo and all of the other haunts there. I'm planning my first adventure there based solely on the readings from ISG. I was a regular to Macau when traveling to Asia and Panama City when traveling south. Prior to Covid, Panama City had a jewel in the rough "Habanos" which was loaded w nuggets from South America. No need to fly an additional 8 hours with so many beauties there. See my previous posts. But with Panama still in eternal lockdown, going further south to enjoy the Talent of Brazil is now a must. Just few questions from boots on the ground. Is proof of Covid vaccine mandatory or any Covid protocol required upon entering GRU airport? Departing protocol?

Staying in Moema Mercure Times based on previous reviews. Is Uber the best way to navigate from GRU to Moema or will the "white" taxi be ok? Planning on rampaging thru the Clinics during the day along w Private 55 dates and Scandallo in the early afternoon for happy hour. From reading the posts, I haven't seen how far Mercure hotel is from Scandallo? Any update?? Tons of other questions but the amazing reviews have answered most of them. Any other suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I'll give thorough details and reviews to assist future travelers to SP.[/QUOTE]Can't answer all your questions but Uber in SP is awesome and cheap. Would t use anything else. And Scandallo really doesn't start till 11 PM iMo. All the Boates don't really rock till 11 or 12 at night. That's when the quality and quantity is there.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2609100]Can't answer all your questions but Uber in SP is awesome and cheap. Would t use anything else. And Scandallo really doesn't start till 11 PM iMo. All the Boates don't really rock till 11 or 12 at night. That's when the quality and quantity is there.[/QUOTE]I met one of my absolute top hotties at Scandallo between 7 and 8! This was pre-COVID though, and the place was already popping that early on a Friday or Saturday night. Also, I would say that if you plan on having dinner and / or you just want to relax a little bit as you spend down some of the consumo, then don't wait until 11 to get there. It could be so busy by then that you find yourself not able to sit still! And whenever you do get there, just enjoy!

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2609112]Much is made that those who like high end places go there because we can "delude ourselves that a girl is fucking us for an hour because of our charm and good looks, and that the money was incidental to her doing that. " Fair enough.[/QUOTE]No, it's not fair. It's not fair at all. It's mean-spirited is what it is. And not only does it imply the envy that you note, but it's just plain wrong. I know those pretty tutes are there for the money. And, I know I'm there for their mouths, pussies, and tight butt holes! All the way! So absolutely no delusions here whatsoever. It's just that I like fucking in a really nice place every now and then, and getting it exactly how I want it from a gorgeous woman, without having to fuck her while standing up with my shoes still on LOL!

I use Google map. The only ride sharing option in Google map in Sao Paulo is 99 so I end up using it 99% of the times.

Scandallo hours:

One girl told me they can take Monday off without penalty so I assume Monday is the worst time to be there. Saturday any girl can get in for free. The second shift starts at 9 PM. The outdoor patio area opens around 9 PM, or later. The club area opens at 10 PM. I think the more space that is open, the more difficult it is to see all the girls so you might want to take this into consideration.

Just take what I said about the hours as a hint as my Portuguese is poor, and I may have understood what was said to me incorrectly. The girl maybe saying she took Monday off because they could take one day off a week, instead of what I said above.

I was thinking of going to Scandallo tomorrow night (Tuesday). If any other ISG members are game DM me!

Just heard from one of the girls from my past Aline that cafe Foto will be reopening on October 5th at their new location.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2608512] I headed to Bomboa to meet up MixedSalad07, Bearsi and Trojan22. Bomboa had better talent this time than my previous visit in June. There were 4-5 girls that I thought about taking to a room, but I was full from dinner. Instead, I got the digits of the hottest 2 girls for potential hookups at the end of my trip.

The ISG boys and I eventually hit up Connections after some food and drinks (and a room with a girl for one of them) at Bomboa![/QUOTE]Salaam Socrates. You are one of the few philosophers outside the Muslim world that I respect.

I've enjoyed Bomboa in the past, but it has one major problem: customers are discouraged from moving around. We are supposed to sit still like in a restaurant. Meanwhile the girls are relatively free to circulate. It's almost as if they can pick which customers they want to sit with.

Last time I was at Bomboa I was pleased to see an old friend working there. She joined me and we chatted pleasantly for a few minutes. What happened next: [I]she didn't go away[/I]. She had decided I was her catch for the night. The trouble was I had other ideas. I wanted a change. I started dropping hints. She ignored them.

It was only after two hours that I started to get rude enough to call over another girl to the table. Eventually I ended up going with that girl, a younger hotter person than my friend. I still tried to be as tactful as possible with my old friend. (Later she sent me a message saying she was deleting me from her phone.).

The point of this anecdote is to illustrate the problems of an environment where the customer is not free to move around. Fortunately Scandallo and Connection do not have this problem. (However, you know I have expressed increasing concerns about those boates too. The managers are too controlling but somehow this does not result in a consistent service level from the ladies. So the price is difficult to justify when set alongside the clinicas.).

This post is not about Scandallo vs. Clinicas. It's about how grateful I am to the brothers here at ISG who led me to an experience that changed my life. I touched down in SP with lingering bitterness of a brutal marriage ending. The threat of divorce hanging over me for years, and the uncertain aftermath filling myself with doubt about my future. I knew I didn't have it in me to rinse and repeat in the vanilla dating world, I had given so much in my marriage and was left feeling empty.

A mere three days later, I was in a completely different state of mind. When I imagined what a great clinica session might be, I guessed it would be about the beauty, the technique, the climax, the satisfaction. But instead, a great session turned out to be about feeling loved, with everything gracefully orchestrated with warm care, from patient kisses, to slow buildups, to passionate embrace. Like an artist, she knew how to move my emotions, and it was as good or perhaps better than any vanilla experience I had ever had. Again, it was less about the great sex, but instead about feeling like the center of someone's loving world. Of course it took a few tries to find her (and the clinicas make trial and error very easy and fun), and I knew that I had to keep my perspective. But knowing that this healing power was there, from the right people, and the right environment, completely removed the cloud of fear that had been lingering about my future. I didn't need this loving feeling to come attached to endless logistics, conversations, and relationship process. The loving feeling alone gave me everything I needed to feel whole, in a way that still hasn't left me, and has filled me with a confidence that life has answers.

It was all of you that led me to this moment. I thank you.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2609198]Salaam Socrates. You are one of the few philosophers outside the Muslim world that I respect.

I've enjoyed Bomboa in the past, but it has one major problem: customers are discouraged from moving around. We are supposed to sit still like in a restaurant. Meanwhile the girls are relatively free to circulate. It's almost as if they can pick which customers they want to sit with.

Last time I was at Bomboa I was pleased to see an old friend working there. She joined me and we chatted pleasantly for a few minutes. What happened next: [I]she didn't go away[/I]. She had decided I was her catch for the night. The trouble was I had other ideas. I wanted a change. I started dropping hints. She ignored them.

It was only after two hours that I started to get rude enough to call over another girl to the table. Eventually I ended up going with that girl, a younger hotter person than my friend. I still tried to be as tactful as possible with my old friend. (Later she sent me a message saying she was deleting me from her phone.)..[/QUOTE]I really like Bomboa, not as much as the old Bomboa, still like it never the less. Call it Scandallo-Lite, if you will. Dropped in a few months ago, I have a regular girl I like to see there, Dada Diane (from RdJ). She found me, we chatted had a few drinks. Suggested we go to Asturias and wanted to bring along a GF, I thought, what the hay, I don't have to work until late tomorrow afternoon so we went on our merry way. A good time was had by all.

The next time I came thru I whatsapp my regular I'll be there around 21:00. I get there the GF sees me, immediately plops down next to meet, waves over the garcon and attempts to order a Grey Goose & cranberry on my command. The words above my head were telling me Oh fuck no. I tell her hoppa fora. She gives the snob sign (slight backward tilt of the head while touching her nose with her middle finger) and leaves in a huff.

I spot my regular, things went smooth for the rest of the night. The GF has not spoken to me since, but to quote Pee Wee Herman, I guess that's life in the big city!

The fotos are Diane. The pool and floating tray shot is this great little pousada I found in Paraty.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2609208]Perhaps deluded was too harsh. Perhaps a more accurate statement is that Scandalo fans know they are paying to fuck the girl but want to create a mini-relationship before the act as opposed to the see, choose, and fuck procedure at a clinica.[/QUOTE]You are getting warmer, but you are still not quite there. Scandallo patrons are looking for top quality looking girls, great sex, and a full evening's worth of drinking and entertainment. Clinica patrons are looking for an afternoon tryst IE short time great sex with a fairly good looking girl. The two venues are different but not mutually exclusive. You can enjoy Clincas and Boates or just Clincas or just Boates. It is entirely up to you. There is no right and wrong way of doing things.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2609073]I use both taxis and Uber in Sao Paulo. They are both cheap, but after one pretty bad experience with Uber going to the airport, I always use Guarucoop from the airport to my hotel and a taxi from the hotel to the airport.[/QUOTE]Would you please care to elaborate about your bad experience with Uber going to the airport? I've been taking Uber to / from the airport so this kind of information is highly relevant.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2608941] So if you are mostly looking to just find a hot girl and bang her in-house, paying R230 for a room on top of a cover and minimum consumption. Plus whatever you negotiate with the girl. That might seem excessive and not a good value.

However, if you want to chill, drink and / or eat in a higher end environment, be able to have a HUGE selection of hot girls to choose from and eventually take her back to your hotel, Scandallo can't be beat.[/QUOTE]Pernoite deals seem to be better value than 1 HR quickies. Maybe a good strategy would be to collect phone numbers and arrange something on a different day to avoid take out fees.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2608947]I haven't been to globe in 2-3 years, but that math doesn't add up from my 4-5 x there. Last I recall, it was 140 CHF for 30 min and 70 CHF admission. So for 60 min room, it's 350 CHF. Which is R2,000. You can easily get a girl at Scandallo for under R1 k all-in (including cover, min consumption and room fee).

I do like the FKK all nude concept, as you can see the full figure out the girls and they have a harder time hiding flaws. With that said, I also enjoy a nightclub feel too as it allows for more dancing, drinking and making out.

I also found their public sex Tuesdays quite interesting, even though I wasn't willing to participate.[/QUOTE]I also went to Globe many times, and I agree with your numbers. Globe is definitely more expensive than Scandallo.

I have been to their Tuesday special once, and I did not like it one bit. Too many creeps. Once I was banging a chick in the kino and another monger was watching us and masturbating.

What comparison if any can be made between the quality of talent found in [B]Scandallo versus talent found online (Twitter, Private55, Clubmodel, Mclass, PhotoAcompanhantes, and etc)?[/B] (Looks, service satisfaction, cost considerations, and overall value).

Is online talent better looking or is Scandallo talent better?

Do you find (or recognized) online talent inside Scandallo?

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2609298]What comparison if any can be made between the quality of talent found in [B]Scandallo versus talent found online (Twitter, Private55, Clubmodel, Mclass, PhotoAcompanhantes, and etc)?[/B] (Looks, service satisfaction, cost considerations, and overall value).

Is online talent better looking or is Scandallo talent better?

Do you find (or recognized) online talent inside Scandallo?[/QUOTE]Many MClass & Club Model girls can be found at Scandallo when they are lacking a client, but many call girls prefer not to go there as long as they're online business is good. It is a personal preference on their part where they choose to ply their trade.

Quality wise you are looking at similar, overlapping values. At 400 br to 600 br per session these high-end call girls (MClass & Club Model) are a little cheaper, but there is added value in going to Scandallo, seeing many many more girls at the same time in the flesh, being able to talk, flirt, and conduct hands on auditions them before committing.

I prefer going out and picking up girls in a Boate / Club venue over searching for girls on the internet in my hotel room which can be a time consuming venture in itself and then waiting for a selected girl to show up. But there are some great girls on MClass & Club Model and Barra VIPs (in RJ). No doubt about it and I have several favorite repeat Call girls in both cities. But I also have several favorite repeat Boate and Terma girls whom I can hook up with directly whenever I like with no third party charges.

So, both sources (internet services and Boates) can provide you with great girls. If you like getting out, enjoying the nightlife and seeing lots of girls you will gravitate more towards the Boates. If you prefer remaining anonymous in your hotel room, you will prefer the call girl services.

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2609298]What comparison if any can be made between the quality of talent found in [B]Scandallo versus talent found online (Twitter, Private55, Clubmodel, Mclass, PhotoAcompanhantes, and etc)?[/B] (Looks, service satisfaction, cost considerations, and overall value).

Is online talent better looking or is Scandallo talent better?

Do you find (or recognized) online talent inside Scandallo?[/QUOTE]For one thing you can check out the garotas up close and personal, minus: blurred faces, out-of-date fotos, deceptive camera angles, faces turned away from the camera, & heads cut-off from the shot. Plus, they're right there so you can actually talk to them, reach out and touch what you're interested in.

Kinda' thinking this was what buying a slave must of been like.

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2609298]What comparison if any can be made between the quality of talent found in [B]Scandallo versus talent found online (Twitter, Private55, Clubmodel, Mclass, PhotoAcompanhantes, and etc)?[/B] (Looks, service satisfaction, cost considerations, and overall value).

Is online talent better looking or is Scandallo talent better?

...[/QUOTE]Nobody can give you an absolute answer. Scandallo has a large large number of girls so it is easier to find what you like. For me 90% are interchangeable with the girls I can find in Clinicas or online. My percentage maybe lower because I already am adapted to other environment better, while others may have much higher percentage, only you can determine your percentage.

For value, I think it is easier to avoid the bad ones and scams at Scandallo. From that perspective, the value is good. If you count the all in price (entre, room, girl's fee) as the cost of the girl. The value may not be there unless you find the girl of your dream. I only count what the girl actually get after her cost. From this perspective, my response will be different.

This is the top girl I met in Scandallo. You can read the post to see if she is worth it because of her look.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2608756]She told us...[/QUOTE]When they are all naked, I noticed many of them have some scars or the skin are not as smooth as I would like, they are probably from childhood injuries or don't have the money to take care of themselves better. For that I will take points off the beauty scale.

[QUOTE=FRobertson;2609237]Would you please care to elaborate about your bad experience with Uber going to the airport? I've been taking Uber to / from the airport so this kind of information is highly relevant.[/QUOTE]Taxis can use the bus lanes so is faster especially during rush hours.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2609370]
This is the top girl I met in Scandallo. You can read the post to see if she is worth it because of her look.
[/QUOTE]Did you forget to include the photo or link to your past report which contains the photo?

[QUOTE=FRobertson;2609237]Would you please care to elaborate about your bad experience with Uber going to the airport? I've been taking Uber to / from the airport so this kind of information is highly relevant.[/QUOTE]I have nothing against Uber and I used it 31 times during my last trip in 2020. I just don't want to use it for my airport transfers. The bad experience started when the driver arrived to my hotel in Jardins. He was quite old and didn't even know where I was going to? When I told him I was going to the GRU airport, his answer was "so far". I told him that if he doesn't want to take me there, I can order another car. "No, it's not a problem, but we have stop by a gas station to get more diesel or gasoline", I don't remember which one. He had a specific gas station somewhere in Bela Vista, where he wanted to stop. After filling up, we started the journey to the airport. His car was in desperate need for a new pair of shocks. He had a navigation app that I had never seen before and somehow he succeeded to change the lanes from the main road to the lateral lanes and back where the Google Maps in my phone showed red. He was cursing the traffic all the time when he was changing the lanes between the heavy trucks. His driving was dangerous. I don't remember exactly all the details, because it was 2019, but when we arrived to the airport, I decided that I will never use Uber again to or from the airport. The driver was too old for that job and his car didn't feel safe. The Guarucoop has nice cars and the last time a taxi driver from shopping Ibirapuera, with a very good car, took me to the airport.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2609462]... The driver was too old for that job and his car didn't feel safe. The Guarucoop has nice cars and the last time a taxi driver from shopping Ibirapuera, with a very good car, took me to the airport.[/QUOTE]I had the same experience when I was in Sampa. The fellow who showed up to take me to the airport was an older gentleman with an older car. I honestly did not feel safe in that car, nor with the driver. I wished I had taken a regular taxi.

I also had an incident with another, young Uber driver. I gave him the address for clinica Tangara. The next thing I knew, I was in downtown Sampa, after 30 min driving on the highway. It was my first time going from Moema to Tangara. I suspected something was amiss. Finally, I asked him whether he was going the wrong way. After some exchange with my bad Portuguese, he recognized that something was wrong. But, he was very sorry and I did not care much. I enjoyed the ride, and it was not that expensive. I took many other rides with Uber drivers an they all went fine.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2609469]I also had an incident with another, young Uber driver. I gave him the address for clinica Tangara. The next thing I knew, I was in downtown Sampa, after 30 min driving on the highway. It was my first time going from Moema to Tangara. I suspected something was amiss. Finally, I asked him whether he was going the wrong way. After some exchange with my bad Portuguese, he recognized that something was wrong. But, he was very sorry and I did not care much. I enjoyed the ride, and it was not that expensive. I took many other rides with Uber drivers an they all went fine.[/QUOTE]Same thing happened to me during my first visit to Sampa. Was wanting to go to Miruna, and the old guy took me to downtown! That was a taxi driver though. Wanted to curse him for wasting my time, but didn't know enough words in Porto to do so LOL! He would always be waiting in front of the hotel I stayed at during that trip. Avoided hiring him again like the plague!

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2609457]Did you forget to include the photo or link to your past report which contains the photo?[/QUOTE]I don't have photo. This is the redhead that you passed on to me.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2609462]I have nothing against Uber and I used it 31 times during my last trip in 2020. I just don't want to use it for my airport transfers. The bad experience started when the driver arrived to my hotel in Jardins. He was quite old and didn't even know where I was going to? When I told him I was going to the GRU airport, his answer was "so far". I told him that if he doesn't want to take me there, I can order another car. "No, it's not a problem, but we have stop by a gas station to get more diesel or gasoline", I don't remember which one. He had a specific gas station somewhere in Bela Vista, where he wanted to stop. After filling up, we started the journey to the airport. His car was in desperate need for a new pair of shocks. He had a navigation app that I had never seen before and somehow he succeeded to change the lanes from the main road to the lateral lanes and back where the Google Maps in my phone showed red. He was cursing the traffic all the time when he was changing the lanes between the heavy trucks. His driving was dangerous. I don't remember exactly all the details, because it was 2019, but when we arrived to the airport, I decided that I will never use Uber again to or from the airport. The driver was too old for that job and his car didn't feel safe. The Guarucoop has nice cars and the last time a taxi driver from shopping Ibirapuera, with a very good car, took me to the airport.[/QUOTE]Thank you! I was worried that he took you to an abandoned warehouse and wouldn't drive you to the airport until he relieved you of everything except your passport and a pair of underwear.

Yes, I've had a few crappy cars and a few times drivers took me on suboptimal routes (though not as dramatic as going through downtown to get from Moema to Tangara) and I kinda wrote it off as "such is life". Ordering "VIP" rides I generally had reasonably decent cars and competent drivers. Plus, Uber relieves me of any necessity to talk. This would not be the case for a taxi or any other mode of transportation.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2609462]I have nothing against Uber and I used it 31 times during my last trip in 2020. I just don't want to use it for my airport transfers. The bad experience started when the driver arrived to my hotel in Jardins. He was quite old and didn't even know where I was going to? When I told him I was going to the GRU airport, his answer was "so far". I told him that if he doesn't want to take me there, I can order another car. "No, it's not a problem, but we have stop by a gas station to get more diesel or gasoline", I don't remember which one. He had a specific gas station somewhere in Bela Vista, where he wanted to stop. After filling up, we started the journey to the airport. His car was in desperate need for a new pair of shocks. He had a navigation app that I had never seen before and somehow he succeeded to change the lanes from the main road to the lateral lanes and back where the Google Maps in my phone showed red. He was cursing the traffic all the time when he was changing the lanes between the heavy trucks. His driving was dangerous. I don't remember exactly all the details, because it was 2019, but when we arrived to the airport, I decided that I will never use Uber again to or from the airport. The driver was too old for that job and his car didn't feel safe. The Guarucoop has nice cars and the last time a taxi driver from shopping Ibirapuera, with a very good car, took me to the airport.[/QUOTE]My recent Uber ride to airport from Moema shares the dangerous driving aspect of your experience.

I have used Uber for all my local transportation needs in Brazil. I had few dangerous / rough rides in rio but the recent one tops them all. It was after 8 pm and there was not much traffic, the driver speeding at 130-140 kmh and changing lines from one end to other just to get past few cars on the road and tailgating extremely close to vehicles on the fast lane (left most lane). I didn't think I would get to airport. It was the scariest ride of my life.

Kind of random question, but what kind of music is usually on at Scandallo? I know there's a nightclub area, so I assume that that's the typical poppy, bass heavy, club music. Mix of pop, electro, reggaeton, etc. I'm down with that. But I've also been reading about the club hosting live bands? What's that about? Rock, classic rock? Not really what I would expect from a nightclub I guess.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2609623]My recent Uber ride to airport from Moema shares the dangerous driving aspect of your experience.

I have used Uber for all my local transportation needs in Brazil. I had few dangerous / rough rides in rio but the recent one tops them all. It was after 8 pm and there was not much traffic, the driver speeding at 130-140 kmh and changing lines from one end to other just to get past few cars on the road and tailgating extremely close to vehicles on the fast lane (left most lane). I didn't think I would get to airport. It was the scariest ride of my life.[/QUOTE]My first time in Sao Paulo, I was in a taxi at Shopping Ibirupuera that almost hit a pedestrian. The guy was driving totally too fast and didn't see the person. I shouted to alert him so that he didn't hit the man! I found the driving in Sampa to be worse than in Rio. At least during that first trip. In any event, it's too often that they don't seem to know where they're going in either city. Had a taxi driver in Porto Alegre get lost while using GPS even (slaps forehead). He did take a little money off of the fare, which was appreciated.

Met up with a fellow ISGer last night at Scandallo and had a blast. I'm definitely a believer. There's really no experience for me that comes close to what Scandallo is / was.

The fact that the girl / guy dynamic is totally upended at Scandallo is worth the entry price alone. At every other club you have a swarm of guys around any hot girl, but at Scandallo you have scores of girls begging for attention. The quality of girls there is of course variable, but there are just so many, that no matter your taste, you'll likely find someone that suits your style. Half the fun is spending time just looking at the girls, but weirdly also having to avert your eyes from girls who are looking to come over that you might not be into.

Of course deep down we really know exactly the reason why the dynamic is the way it is, but honestly if you have the money to spend, it's really like no other. The other bonus and again justifies the entry fee aline was that I was able to grab the numbers of a couple girls that I liked who I will try to meet up with later in the week too.

Pretty girl.

Well done.

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2609219]I really like Bomboa, not as much as the old Bomboa, still like it never the less. Call it Scandallo-Lite, if you will. Dropped in a few months ago, I have a regular girl I like to see there, Dada Diane (from RdJ). She found me, we chatted had a few drinks. Suggested we go to Asturias and wanted to bring along a GF, I thought, what the hay, I don't have to work until late tomorrow afternoon so we went on our merry way. A good time was had by all.

The next time I came thru I whatsapp my regular I'll be there around 21:00. I get there the GF sees me, immediately plops down next to meet, waves over the garcon and attempts to order a Grey Goose & cranberry on my command. The words above my head were telling me Oh fuck no. I tell her hoppa fora. She gives the snob sign (slight backward tilt of the head while touching her nose with her middle finger) and leaves in a huff.

I spot my regular, things went smooth for the rest of the night..[/QUOTE]

I'm planning a trip. It seem that you need a negative test within 3 days before getting on the leaving for Brazil and also returning to the US. Seem like some say only RT-PCR other say rapid-test is OK. Which test did you guy took?

At walgreene they have the PCR, ID NOW and BinaxNOW.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2609992]I'm planning a trip. It seem that you need a negative test within 3 days before getting on the leaving for Brazil and also returning to the US. Seem like some say only RT-PCR other say rapid-test is OK. Which test did you guy took?

At walgreene they have the PCR, ID NOW and BinaxNOW.[/QUOTE]You need a PCR test to enter Brazil 72 hours from your first departure point and not from the departure flight to Brazil. So, make sure you do the calculations correctly.

On the way back home is easy. A rapid antigen test 3 days before (they don't count hours). Almost any pharmacy in São Paulo will have it.

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2609298]What comparison if any can be made between the quality of talent found in [B]Scandallo versus talent found online (Twitter, Private55, Clubmodel, Mclass, PhotoAcompanhantes, and etc)?[/B] (Looks, service satisfaction, cost considerations, and overall value).

Is online talent better looking or is Scandallo talent better?

Do you find (or recognized) online talent inside Scandallo?[/QUOTE]There is some great on-line talent in Sao Paulo. Sao Paulo escorts are not as widely discussed as Scandallo, Bomboa and clinicas. In my opinion, to have consistently great escort experiences you have to do some research on local Portuguese monger review sites preferably before you arrive in Brazil.

I believe Rovnak in recent years has provided comprehensive tips for newbies looking to find high-end escorts in SP. There are definitely some guidelines to follow to have the best experiences.

The advantages of Scandallo, Bomboa and other boates are obvious. The advantages of SP escorts are you don't have to spend a lot of money out at a place like Scandallo. You don't have to be out late drinking if you have business the next morning. The escorts will meet you almost any time of day. In general, I think SP higher-end escorts (400-600 reais) are better looking than clinica girls. Most of the time if many local mongers review a girl as beautiful, fantastic and she does XY & Z, you are almost guaranteed that she will deliver.

About the PCR test: the airline departing Chicago USA was checking that the test was a PCR test and read the date out loud. Then she told me Brazil has sent some people back to the USA for not having the right test, or out of date test, while she put a red dot sticker on my passport.

I had a long layover so I prearranged a meeting with the two girls linked below. Both ghosted me. One ghosted until 30 minutes after she was supposed to be there and when I told her we weren't meeting anymore she got mad at me. Wasted hours sending out texts and filtering out bullshit only to be skunked.

So I thought I would try a clinica. Was staying near Spa Lushness so figured I'd try it since they have a master room with jetted tub and sauna. Reserved the room by Zap and ordered a taxi. While in the 30 minute taxi the person replied that the master was no longer available, only the traditional, so reservations don't mean squat. Then girls up front were ok, but one asked me 4 times if I wanted to wait for the master room. Service sucked really. I had to ask for a drink a few times.

Avoid Babi! She was as hot as the photos but totally distant and mechanical. Not there to have fun, and doesn't even try to fake it. When I was fucking her I was wondering if this is what fucking one of those life like dolls must be like. She put no effort into the introduction, BBBJ finished with hand job, "massage", and sex at the end. I'm also sorry to say she got a terrible boob job. Her tits sort of have grooves running up and down.

I wish I would have gone to one of SP's gourmet restaurants instead. Moral of the story: Go to Scandelos.

[URL]spalushness.com[/URL] / terapeutas / babi-2/.

At BeatrizLuxury.

Sounds worth it at 400 but only one review found by searching her phone number. Definitely not smart. She got confused about simple things during our msgs:

Gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] / viewtopic. Php? T=217420.

Highly prized in her reviews, asks 550, photos are hotter the hell, says she speaks English but kept answering and disappearing.

Local forum,

Does anyone know the answer to the question to register an account with gp-guia? I googled and translated a few words that should be answers but it rejects all.

What is the name of the mode of transport that flies?

Qual o nome do meio de transporte que voa?

[QUOTE=BarryWood;2610258]...
What is the name of the mode of transport that flies?

Qual o nome do meio de transporte que voa?[/QUOTE]I think my answer was avion.

[QUOTE=Nebulousity;2609203]... a great session turned out to be about feeling loved, with everything gracefully orchestrated with warm care, from patient kisses, to slow buildups, to passionate embrace. Like an artist, she knew how to move my emotions, and it was as good or perhaps better than any vanilla experience I had ever had. Again, it was less about the great sex, but instead about feeling like the center of someone's loving world. ...[/QUOTE]

I think I know what you mean. That maybe Brazilian specific. But seriously, which Clinica is this?

[QUOTE=BarryWood;2610258]

Does anyone know the answer to the question to register an account with gp-guia? I googled and translated a few words that should be answers but it rejects all.

What is the name of the mode of transport that flies?

Qual o nome do meio de transporte que voa?[/QUOTE]What answers did you give? It's avião.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2610282]I think I know what you mean. That maybe Brazilian specific. But seriously, which Clinica is this?[/QUOTE]This was Prime. My sessions at Abbobora, Carinas, and Enjoy were all solid (except one at Abbobra but I figured my picker will always be imperfect), with some of the same aspects, like a relaxing feel, playful, laughter, closeness. But at least for me, the culture of Prime was next level, to the point that I think of how to live life and romantic relationships completely differently. I had previously experienced FKKs and, even though those had been really great, I hadn't walked away from them with a changed emotional world view.

[QUOTE=Nebulousity;2610478]This was Prime. My sessions at Abbobora, Carinas, and Enjoy were all solid (except one at Abbobra but I figured my picker will always be imperfect), with some of the same aspects, like a relaxing feel, playful, laughter, closeness. But at least for me, the culture of Prime was next level, to the point that I think of how to live life and romantic relationships completely differently. I had previously experienced FKKs and, even though those had been really great, I hadn't walked away from them with a changed emotional world view.[/QUOTE]Mongering in Brazil certainly changed my world view. Forever! Only, it was at a termas in Rio de Janeiro (the now defunct L'uomo) with a "ginger" who went by "Arianne". Have posted many pictures of her in the past.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2363738]I came up with four names.
Which one is it?
[/QUOTE]It's called "American Bar".

Av. So Joo, 345 - Centro Histrico de So Paulo, So Paulo. SP, 01036-000, Brazil.

Only the second floor is open. The bar area is quite large.

[QUOTE=RioHeart;2362754]Yes, Alameda Barao de Limeira. Not sure I'd go down there too late at night. Close by the area is (Princesa Isabel Square) known as Cracolandia (Crack Land). I was there at 2 pm with plenty of Garotas ...[/QUOTE]I am trying to figure the peak hours for these places. If you go to this one after 5, the men to women ratio is 50 to 1.

All these places have elevator so you can take the elevator to the top floor and walk down. It is like a combination of HK 141 and chongo. Keep some changes with you because the elevator operator may ask for tip which you can drop into a tip jar.

I think this particular place should be quite safe during daytime and there are almost no homeless camping on this street. This side of the streets has many high end import moto stuff. There is a HD dealer across the street, and a BMW dealer several doors down.

There is a homeless camp in Princesa Isabel Square but I don't think that is where Cracolandia is because there is a huge one further north. The entire area is very similar to El Centro of Medellin. There are several Peruvian and Arabian restaurants nearby, use google to find them. If you are wondering where you can find street food. Some come out at night on Rio Branco. Not many choices but cheap good home style cooking.

Is casaro open again?

I had a great time there in Nov 2019.

I brought a clinica girl as a date, who was checking out the pricing of her pussy against those on offer at the place.

Security was tight. I had a flashlight in the pocket of my Lululemon ABC (anti ball crushing) pants, and they got that (though not the SOG Trident knife).

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2363738]I came up with four names.

Which one is it?

Casaro American Bar.

Caf Calche American Bar.

Cafe American Bar.

Bahamas American Bar.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2610576]It's called "American Bar".
Av. So Joo, 345 - Centro Histrico de So Paulo, So Paulo. SP, 01036-000, Brazil.
[/QUOTE]There are working girls around the yellow church in the next block during the day.

The area between this address and Praca the Republica is a nighlife area. The blocks are packed on weekends. I see mostly young people, drinking dancing, smoking weeds.

There are some good restaurants and bars south of the plaza. Some are very well known. Google map will show you where they are.

In general, this area is a little rundown and many say a little dangerous but it is worth a trip for food and experience local life style.

[QUOTE=Nebulousity;2610478]This was Prime...[/QUOTE]I think Prime is too successful that it becomes not ideal for me. If I can wait, I have no problem finding someone I like but it was just too much waiting given the limited free time I have.

This is 3rd leg of my trip. I started in SP and went to Rio before returning. I took midnight sleeper bus from Rio and got to SP early morning. Without CPF you can't book bus tickets online, so I had to go to bus station to book ticket.

The lineup in SP boetes / clinicas and Rio termas were much better than during my previous visit back in May.

Clinicas visited:

Prime:

This is still my favorite clinica. Most of the days they had about 20 girls (better numbers than some of the Rio tier 1 termas), way more than what I have seen in May. I had sessioned with 4 girls: Kim, Duda, Cari and one other whose name I can't remember.

Kim and unnamed girl: Just typical good sessions.

Duda: a 22 yo (could be bit older) pretty branca with big tits and ass and great service. Her BBBJ skills are off the charts.

Cari: a pretty branca with amazing body and superb service. The session I had with her was great back in May but this time it was amazing. I fucked her ass both times but this time she let me pound very hard and deep. She has one of the best hygine top to bottom.

Abbobora:

They also had about 15 - 20 girls when I visited. I never had a good luck here but this time I found some. I have visited 2 times, sessioned twice. My 2nd visit I had a great session with a gorgeous 24 yo tall gorgeous blonde Amanda.

Maruna:

I went to this place few times. Pricing is similar to Prime. I had 2 good sessions with Sameera and Nicole.

EnjoySpa:

I visited this place few times but didn't session.

57 house friends club:

This like a clinica / small boete. They have a bar, lounge with lots of couches to sit, a large room with tables, chairs and pool table in the back. You can request a lineup or spend time having few drinks and talking to girls like you do in boetes. This place has the best rooms of all the clinicas (and Rio thermas). Rooms are large, clean with real beds. I sessioned with 2 girls. The best session was with a 24 yo beautiful Luna. She likes playing pool and I saw her playing both times I visited the club. I spoke to her for some time in the lounge and she was ok with all my requests except anal. In the room, I was able to convince her to do anal for some extra reals. She provided probably the best anal experience. I fucked her ass in all sorts of positions. The great thing about her is she put herself into positions based on our height difference and made sure I had great access to her ass for maximum pleasure, penetration and pounding. I had similar great passionate anal sessions with Cari at Prime (if Prime had beds like this place maybe her session would have been even better) but this girls takes prize.

This place is open late during week days. I like this place and would visit again.

Boetes visited:

Scandallo:

The day I visited (Sep 14th) happened to be an event day with R800 entry fee. The security guy using the translate app told me the entry is R800 and R800 is consumption. I paid the hefty entry free just to experience what event days are like and how many hotties they attract.

I didn't see too many new hotties but at the peak there were 200+ girls. Main music program started after midnight and the club was packed with local men drinking and dancing.

I didn't see any noticeable higher number of new hotties in the club. I have seen a girl I saw in Bamboa back in May and few other new faces but most of he girls are same as my previous visit. These hefty entry fees are not justified unless you are interested in music event or you have confirmed intel about amazing lineup.

I was mostly disappointed with my visit because I didn't as many new hotties as I hoped for and the consumption turned out to be $300 not $800. I don't think I will be visiting Scandallo during event days. If I happen to go there and find out there is an event, I will turn back and go to some other place.

Connection:

I visited this place the next day I visited Scandallo. I had a very good session with a 20 yo pretty branca. Paid R400. I see lot more natural looking girls with minimum makeup than at Scandallo and that is one reason I am starting to like it better more than Scandallo.

Other info and thoughts:

Not many girls speak English, so it is difficult to communication with them without Portuguese or Spanish. It is tiring to use translate app but girls are very patient and accommodative.

I got my COVID test (antigen) for return flight from Dragosil pharmacy for R120. I walked in hoping to get the test done but they made me take a appointment for later that day. The test took less than 30 minutes and got a paper copy of the result.

Overall I liked this trip better than my last. It is amazing how great Brazilian girls are in bed. Yes, there are bad apples here and there but most of the girls are honest and provide amazing service. Brazilian girls definitely provide much higher level of IOP (Illusion of passion. Useful acronym used by Kib123 for describing how passionate girl's performance) than other parts of the world.

I need to plan my next trip but first need learn Portuguese.

I am planning a trip to Sampa after many years, given the situation of Covid in Brazil are the clubs requiring girls who work there and clients to be vaccinated and or tested?

Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=JohnCorey;2610906]I am planning a trip to Sampa after many years, given the situation of Covid in Brazil are the clubs requiring girls who work there and clients to be vaccinated and or tested?

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]There were no such restrictions in clubs during my recent 2 weeks trip early September.

I have heard about such restrictions being imposed for venues like zoos, museums, tourist hot spots like Chris the Redeemer etc. I have also head about movie theaters imposing such restriction but I wasn't asked for any such proof when I went to a movie.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2610552]Mongering in Brazil certainly changed my world view. Forever! Only, it was at a termas in Rio de Janeiro (the now defunct L'uomo) with a "ginger" who went by "Arianne". Have posted many pictures of her in the past.[/QUOTE]That name brings back some sweet memories. Back in the early 2000's, I met this lovely lady called Bia at L'Uomo. What a sweetheart! A lovely blonde spinner, and a dynamite in bed.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2610959]That name brings back some sweet memories. Back in the early 2000's, I met this lovely lady called Bia at L'Uomo. What a sweetheart! A lovely blonde spinner, and a dynamite in bed.[/QUOTE]What a great time to have mongered in Rio in that period just before Help closed! L'Uomo was great but what about Centaurus back then? The finest babes on the planet were there, top model quality. When I visit Scandallo in my next visit I will make a comparison from memory. It would be amazing if Scandallo has comparable ladies to those who worked Centaurus back then.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2611061]What a great time to have mongered in Rio in that period just before Help closed! L'Uomo was great but what about Centaurus back then. The finest babes on the planet were there, top model quality. When I visit Scandallo in my next visit I will compare from memory. It would be amazing if Scandallo has comparable ladies to those who worked Centaurus back then.[/QUOTE]I met my favorite Brazilian girl of all time at Centaurus. "Talita", who I have posted many photos of. We weren't just fucking. We were making love. Yes, those were some days! I would say that overall Scandallo has far, far more hot girls to choose from than Centaurus ever had. The thing is that the girls walk around in skimpy bikinis in a termas like Centaurus, whereas they are clothed at a place like Scandallo. So, harder to get a body preview. But, I have yet to be disappointed with my Scandallo picks. Not once! Not yet.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2611061]What a great time to have mongered in Rio in that period just before Help closed! L'Uomo was great but what about Centaurus back then? The finest babes on the planet were there, top model quality. When I visit Scandallo in my next visit I will make a comparison from memory. It would be amazing if Scandallo has comparable ladies to those who worked Centaurus back then.[/QUOTE]I visited Rio very frequently in the 10 years up to when Help closed, and frequently I would stop 2-3 nights in Sao Paulo before heading to Rio for the bulk of my trip. IMO Sao Paulo always had higher quality (and quantity) of women than Rio. As great as Centaurus, Solarium, L'Uomo, etc were (and of course Help), the boates in Sao Paulo always had the best talent. Although going back, say, 15+ years, I think the best boate was probably Cafe Foto. For large numbers of really hot-looking women, IMO Sao Paulo was and still is the best place in the world.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2610899]This is 3rd leg of my trip. I started in SP and went to Rio before returning. I took midnight sleeper bus from Rio and got to SP early morning. Without CPF you can't book bus tickets online, so I had to go to bus station to book ticket.

The lineup in SP boetes / clinicas and Rio termas were much better than during my previous visit back in May.

Clinicas visited:

Prime:

This is still my favorite clinica. Most of the days they had about 20 girls (better numbers than some of the Rio tier 1 termas), way more than what I have seen in May. I had sessioned with 4 girls: Kim, Duda, Cari and one other whose name I can't remember.

Kim and unnamed girl: Just typical good sessions.

Duda: a 22 yo (could be bit older) pretty branca with big tits and ass and great service. Her BBBJ skills are off the charts.[/QUOTE]Nice report, how come you didn't take a flight from Rio to SP?

For 25 USD you can do an at home Abbott antigen test if you order the guided test and the the results on the app.

Many girls actually enjoy what they do so not always an IOP. It is not so taboo to be a pro and many love meeting new guys and get to choose who they want sex with for money so its a win win for them. Many told me they love the different energy they get from different people and learn from them. Many have also find it as a way to meet a sugar daddy husband. The really new good girls don't last long in the clubs, a rich guy puts them up fast. But many also split up and return to the club either it didn't work out or they try to find their next victim and that's the IOP!

[QUOTE=Combo;2611230]I visited Rio very frequently in the 10 years up to when Help closed, and frequently I would stop 2-3 nights in Sao Paulo before heading to Rio for the bulk of my trip. IMO Sao Paulo always had higher quality (and quantity) of women than Rio. As great as Centaurus, Solarium, L'Uomo, etc were (and of course Help), the boates in Sao Paulo always had the best talent. Although going back, say, 15+ years, I think the best boate was probably Cafe Foto. For large numbers of really hot-looking women, IMO Sao Paulo was and still is the best place in the world.[/QUOTE]This is great info. In the period leading up to the closure of Help I never visited SP only transited. I started going to SP after. I have never seen the quality of babes in SP clinicas that I used to see in Centaurus back then. I certainly must dig deep in my pockets and visit Scandallo when next I visit SP. Thanks also to The Cane.

[QUOTE=Hobbying;2611241]Nice report, how come you didn't take a flight from Rio to SP?

For 25 USD you can do an at home Abbott antigen test if you order the guided test and the the results on the app.

Many girls actually enjoy what they do so not always an IOP. It is not so taboo to be a pro and many love meeting new guys and get to choose who they want sex with for money so its a win win for them. Many told me they love the different energy they get from different people and learn from them. Many have also find it as a way to meet a sugar daddy husband. The really new good girls don't last long in the clubs, a rich guy puts them up fast. But many also split up and return to the club either it didn't work out or they try to find their next victim and that's the IOP![/QUOTE]The self administered test is not a bad idea in Brazil because the folks who do the tests there seem to enjoy jamming the swab valiantly as far up you nose as possible. Their excuse, it may produce false positives if swab is not inserted until it hits the your brain.

You may be right about girls enjoying what they do considering most of them tend to bring their A game every time. I do see some evidence to back what you said. It is hard not to fall in love with some of these girls.

[QUOTE=Hobbying;2611241]how come you didn't take a flight from Rio to SP?[/QUOTE]Partly because fares are bit higher for Rio than SP from the where I live. I may book a open-jaw ticket between SP and Rio next year. I do like travelling in sleeper bus between Rio and SP as they are most comfortable rides. They are very good alternative to booking a last minute flight which can be very expensive.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2610959]That name brings back some sweet memories. Back in the early 2000's, I met this lovely lady called Bia at L'Uomo. What a sweetheart! A lovely blonde spinner, and a dynamite in bed.[/QUOTE]If memory serves me right, there was a Bia in that era that had her own personal fan club on early predecessors to this site. Guys would constantly talk about going to see her at the termas.

Is that the same Bia?

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2611581]The self administered test is not a bad idea in Brazil because the folks who do the tests there seem to enjoy jamming the swab valiantly as far up you nose as possible. Their excuse, it may produce false positives if swab is not inserted until it hits the your brain. Snip.[/QUOTE]I went to two drugstores in Sao Paulo (Drogasil and PagueMenos) to check about antigen tests in preparation for my return to the US. Both charge 99 real, takes 20 minutes, and you have the option of a nasal swab or oral swab. Will check some more drugstores but this may be standard in all of them. Guess I'll take the oral option, given what you say.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2611741]I went to two drugstores in Sao Paulo (Drogasil and PagueMenos) to check about antigen tests in preparation for my return to the US. Both charge 99 real, takes 20 minutes, and you have the option of a nasal swab or oral swab. Will check some more drugstores but this may be standard in all of them. Guess I'll take the oral option, given what you say.[/QUOTE]Oral swab may not be a bad idea. The Drogasil I got the test done said they have only nasal option. Also it is interesting to learn the price varies by location for the same chain.

Back in May, I got my test done at the hotel in Rio and was very surprised how aggressive they were with swabbing. So this time I told the person not to push the swab too far and be gentle but it didn't matter. I guess they mindlessly do what they do to everybody.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2611731]If memory serves me right, there was a Bia in that era that had her own personal fan club on early predecessors to this site. Guys would constantly talk about going to see her at the termas.

Is that the same Bia?[/QUOTE]I remember her back in 2008 or so! Didn't she look like a young but blonde version of that actress Fairuza Balk?

[QUOTE=AznSafado;2611820]I remember her back in 2008 or so! Didn't she look like a young but blonde version of that actress Fairuza Balk?[/QUOTE]I saw Bia last in January 2003. The reason I never saw her again was due to the effing Brazilian consulate in San Francisco. I had to renew my US passport a month prior and needed a new visa for Brazil. The lady consulate at that time did not like me for some reason, and tried to discourage me from getting a visa at all cost, or so it seemed at the time. So, she asked me for so much documentation, including a letter from my boss authorizing me to travel to Brazil and later requiring the specific dates of travel. I was lucky to have a nice boss who agreed to all her demands. And then at the end, the MF gave me the visa but wrote on it that this visa is valid for one single trip only. I was so pissed at her but I was also dying to see Bia again.

That same year, in November I went to Thailand for my first trip to that part of the world. I never looked back. I have been going to Thailand every year since then, sometimes twice a year. I missed the trip to Thailand this year for the first time.

I did revisit Rio in 2011, and had a great time. I also visited Sao Paulo a few years ago, and had a great time as well. Planning to revisit SP more often.

[QUOTE=AznSafado;2611820]I remember her back in 2008 or so! Didn't she look like a young but blonde version of that actress Fairuza Balk?[/QUOTE]I just checked the pics for Fairuza Balk, and I don't think the Bia I knew looked anything like that. My Bia was more likely of German decent, as she looked European, and she was skinny with an oval face.

I am pretty sure Rio Bob knows her. I remember him recommending her to a monger at L'uomo back in January, 2003. I had to do a trick to jump ahead of that monger and pick her up, because I was heading to the airport after my session.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2611373]This is great info. In the period leading up to the closure of Help I never visited SP only transited. I started going to SP after. I have never seen the quality of babes in SP clinicas that I used to see in Centaurus back then. I certainly must dig deep in my pockets and visit Scandallo when next I visit SP. Thanks also to The Cane.[/QUOTE]Check out some of the other boates while you're at it (assuming you're in town for a few days). Although Scandallo is the most acclaimed, Connection, Bomboa, Cafe Foto (if it's open), etc can have very good talent.

In defense of the SP clinicas, they don't cost nearly what Centaurus or other first-tier Rio termas do. I think they're a fantastic day-time option.

[QUOTE=Combo;2611871]Check out some of the other boates while you're at it (assuming you're in town for a few days). Although Scandallo is the most acclaimed, Connection, Bomboa, Cafe Foto (if it's open), etc can have very good talent.

In defense of the SP clinicas, they don't cost nearly what Centaurus or other first-tier Rio termas do. I think they're a fantastic day-time option.[/QUOTE]I don't think the clinicas need to be "defended" per se. They are a good value, and you can find some real diamonds in them. It's just that in my experienced view the girls who work at those on average aren't as hot. On my scale, the average for optics at the clinicas is a 6, whereas for the top boates the average on my scale is an 8. Some guys put the clinica average at 7, but for me it's lower at 6, making the gap between the clinicas and the nightclubs two full points, with most clinica girls therefore not meeting my minimum 7 score in order for me to consider sessioning with them. But, that's just me and my ratings scale and requirements. Turgid has said many times that he would go rather low on his personal scale if he felt the need to "get some" and just had to have it, but not me. Got to be at least a 7 on my scale, or else no deal can be had! And closing my eyes would change nothing LOL!

For those who were questioning Scandalo, last night went with a fellow ISGer to scandalo. Was not dead set on sessioning since I had some action in the afternoon with my regular Aline that I met a few years ago at café foto (BTW nothing on the site about reopening despite Aline saying that it was opening yesterday I also called and no answer). Since I was at ease I was extra picky. I had spoken with Emily who not exactly my type (morena or mulata) but was short and had a great petit body with the right attributes in the right places. Still I let her go to view other prospects. Never before had I turned down so many Scandalo girls. Later in the night a morena approached me (Giovanna) and showed me that enthusiasm I appreciate. She touched me the right way and set off a trigger that got me in the mood for a threesome with Emily in mind. I asking Giovanna if she would do a threesome just as Emily walked by. She said yes and I went to ask Emily. Green lights and I went down the questionnaire with them BBBJ per noite and morning action. 2 k each and off went to the hotel.

Now this part is something I have never experienced before, Emily had a car and drove us all to the hotel no Uber necessary. On the drive to the hotel Giovanna started to give me a BBBJ and we both got basically nude in the back seat while I occasionally grabbed Emily in the driving seat. Some people got a free show in passing cars. At this point nothing was exchanged. Got dressed in time to go through the lobby. One in the room I told them half now half tomorrow to avoid any Thais repeat (who I saw BTW at scandalo and she even said Hi I pretended I didn't know her) they agreed and off we went to what was the best threesome or any experience for that matter of my life both were enthusiastic they even kissed and went on each other. Emily was just a tad more reserved than Giovanna but still great. Once done we slept. In the morning Giovanna was sleeping but Emily was ready for action. I got some action not much from Giovanna in the morning but Emily was all in. Paid 2nd half and they left. This is type of thing that gives scandalo it's reputation. Also yesterday was first time I had three girls in one night with Aline Earlier in the day.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2611883]I don't think the clinicas need to be "defended" per se. They are a good value, and you can find some real diamonds in them. It's just that in my experienced view the girls who work at those on average aren't as hot. On my scale, the average for optics at the clinicas is a 6, whereas for the top boates the average on my scale is an 8. Some guys put the clinica average at 7, but for me it's lower at 6, making the gap between the clinicas and the nightclubs two full points, with most clinica girls therefore not meeting my minimum 7 score in order for me to consider sessioning with them. But, that's just me and my ratings scale and requirements. Turgid has said many times that he would go rather low on his personal scale if he felt the need to "get some" and just had to have it, but not me. Got to be at least a 7 on my scale, or else no deal can be had! And closing my eyes would change nothing LOL![/QUOTE]The Cane, I've consistently been going lower than 6 since March last year and its time for me to put a stop to that shit. Furthermore I 've saved lots of dough since then not having travelled, paid for accommodation and tons of pussy, meals, etc. The only thing is that I don't feel really comfortable going to Brazil otherwise I would have gone already. The Dominican Republic seems to have got their act together and I am making arrangements for my first post covid sojourn. When I do visit Brazil, however, I'll certainly be looking for 8's and 9's (10's being non-existent).

[QUOTE=Turgid;2612081]The Cane, I've consistently been going lower than 6 since March last year and its time for me to put a stop to that shit. Furthermore I 've saved lots of dough since then not having travelled, paid for accommodation and tons of pussy, meals, etc. The only thing is that I don't feel really comfortable going to Brazil otherwise I would have gone already. The Dominican Republic seems to have got their act together and I am making arrangements for my first post covid sojourn. When I do visit Brazil, however, I'll certainly be looking for 8's and 9's (10's being non-existent).[/QUOTE]Agreed on several counts! You do need to stop that shit LOL! And like you, I have not felt comfortable with going to Brazil yet. Besides, that was my last overseas trip, and I really would like to return to Europe next. I have never been to the DR, and don't know that I ever will venture there. It's not high on my list anyway. Mostly not my type of chicks. Finally, I don't agree that 10's are non-existent. They are just very rare is all. I have seen some at Scandallo. I'm like damn you have got to see this tute to believe this! I mean, I'm standing here looking at her in the flesh and can hardly believe what I'm seeing! LOLOLOL! Anyway, I'm hoping to get to Europe sometime in 2022. I do know of a bunch of guys about to head for Cartagena, Colombia soon.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2612081]The Cane, I've consistently been going lower than 6 since March last year and its time for me to put a stop to that shit. Furthermore I 've saved lots of dough since then not having travelled, paid for accommodation and tons of pussy, meals, etc. The only thing is that I don't feel really comfortable going to Brazil otherwise I would have gone already. The Dominican Republic seems to have got their act together and I am making arrangements for my first post covid sojourn. When I do visit Brazil, however, I'll certainly be looking for 8's and 9's (10's being non-existent).[/QUOTE]May I ask why don't you feel comfortable going to Brazil sir? I've noticed prices to travel there have increased a lot during the holidays, so I would imagine most people have changed their mind and have started going back again. Curious as to what has folks still waiting on the sidelines.

Hey guys,

I talked with few guys and Understand that Brazil is heaven for us.

I'm arrive to Brazil in two days to sao Paulo and I will live 1 month at hotel in good neighborhood.

I would love your help and experience!

Except:

-photoacompanhantes.

-private55.

-Tinder.

There is some another website or way to get ladies / girls in Brazil?

I tried to talk with very hot girls on Tinder but It's not working so much for me, if you have any tip I'll be happy to know!

I have a 12 hour layover at GRU coming up at the end of the month, before my return trip to the US. It's during the day, but I was planning on just staying at an airport hotel rather than going into the city and potentially getting stuck. Hoping for a last hook up with a garota de programa at the hotel. 1) Is there a preferred hotel? 2) Is there an agency or a recommended ninfeta who does outcalls to the airport?

[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2612053]For those who were questioning Scandalo, last night went with a fellow ISGer to scandalo. Was not dead set on sessioning since I had some action in the afternoon with my regular Aline that I met a few years ago at caf foto (BTW nothing on the site about reopening despite Aline saying that it was opening yesterday I also called and no answer). Since I was at ease I was extra picky. I had spoken with Emily who not exactly my type (morena or mulata) but was short and had a great petit body with the right attributes in the right places. Still I let her go to view other prospects. Never before had I turned down so many Scandalo girls. Later in the night a morena approached me (Giovanna) and showed me that enthusiasm I appreciate. She touched me the right way and set off a trigger that got me in the mood for a threesome with Emily in mind. I asking Giovanna if she would do a threesome just as Emily walked by. She said yes and I went to ask Emily. Green lights and I went down the questionnaire with them BBBJ per noite and morning action. 2 k each and off went to the hotel.

Now this part is something I have never experienced before, Emily had a car and drove us all to the hotel no Uber necessary. On the drive to the hotel Giovanna started to give me a BBBJ and we both got basically nude in the back seat while I occasionally grabbed Emily in the driving seat. Some people got a free show in passing cars. At this point nothing was exchanged..[/QUOTE]That's awesome man! I still haven't checked off a dupla off my TDL, hopefully I'll give it a shot next month when I'm back in SP. Sounds like as long as you have the coin it can be arranged pretty easily, did you try to negotiate with the girls? I imagine you also had to pay an exit fee per girl. I'm still not clear on how much that costs, but I think taking the girl out to your hotel is the way to go. Thanks for the report and keep the fun going!

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2612147]I have a 12 hour layover at GRU coming up at the end of the month, before m...[/QUOTE]I changed flights, so cancel my question. Thanks anyhow!

Went to Bahamas last night around 10:00. Me and fellow ISGer talked to a few girls who showed us the downstairs area. Still being renovated so nothing to do there we went back upstairs. About 15-20 girls. Called over a petit morena about a 7 for my standards quoted 700 for 1 HR 1000 for 2 HR and 500 for additional hours. I was going to take her to my hotel but decided against it as she was asking me to pay her upfront for that and I did not feel comfortable. Took her to the room for 2 hours. A little hastle as she said I could pass the card with her instead of paying the 20 percentage fee by why paying her downstairs. Her machine was not accepting my card so hat to go back down to pay anyway. Cut the mood a little but once we got back to it the session went well. The room I got was #08 the walls were all mirrors definitely not as nice as Scandalo or even Bomboa rooms. The shower was tiny and had no door so the entire bathroom got wet. As for the girls she was good but nothing out of this world although I had had the best session of my life the night before at Scandalo.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2612183]That's awesome man! I still haven't checked off a dupla off my TDL, hopefully I'll give it a shot next month when I'm back in SP. Sounds like as long as you have the coin it can be arranged pretty easily, did you try to negotiate with the girls? I imagine you also had to pay an exit fee per girl. I'm still not clear on how much that costs, but I think taking the girl out to your hotel is the way to go. Thanks for the report and keep the fun going![/QUOTE]The exit fee is 250 for each girl I think it is worth it especially if you are doing multiple hours because you pay close to that per hour at the rooms. I probably could have negotiated but I am towards the end of my time here and had the cash. Just on the duplas I have had mixed experiences prior to this one. Sometimes it is not as you imagine if one girl is not into it or the other girl. Since I got good vibes from both and I also asked if they kiss each other and they said Yes I new it would be decent at least.

[QUOTE=Rafik2;2612133]Hey guys,

I talked with few guys and Understand that Brazil is heaven for us.

I'm arrive to Brazil in two days to sao Paulo and I will live 1 month at hotel in good neighborhood.

I would love your help and experience!

Except:

-photoacompanhantes.

-private55.

-Tinder.

There is some another website or way to get ladies / girls in Brazil?

I tried to talk with very hot girls on Tinder but It's not working so much for me, if you have any tip I'll be happy to know![/QUOTE]There is also club model [URL]clubmodel.com.br[/URL]. Have never used a lot of verified girls on photosaccompanhantes post there as well not sure if they do some verification on the site. Looks a little higher end.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2612183]That's awesome man! I still haven't checked off a dupla off my TDL, ...[/QUOTE]Now I think you need to give MDE a try. You get same quality of girls at much lower price and do it regularly like these guys.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2607289]
Here's some pics from the past month (missing a couple of my favorites but I'll keep them a secret).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2607892]Which is to say, another fantastic day. Technically, 4 girls in a day would be my average which ...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2612112]May I ask why don't you feel comfortable going to Brazil sir? I've noticed prices to travel there have increased a lot during the holidays, so I would imagine most people have changed their mind and have started going back again. Curious as to what has folks still waiting on the sidelines.[/QUOTE]I've done my research and its a personal decision. I don't want to spook anyone by going into details. If anyone feels comfortable going please go ahead and I am enjoying the reports of those who have ventured. Covid has hit people who I know. One died of it not too long ago and quite recently a neighbor got it and recovered. It is quite unpleasant and something I would not want to experience. I am following my intuition on this.

Europe seems fairly safe but there appear to be too many restrictions which do not strike me as the right environment for a vacation right now. A condo on a DR beach seems fine enough. I like all shades as long as they are tall and fit and the DR has those.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2612413]... A condo on a DR beach right now seems fine enough. I like all shades as long as they are tall and fit and the DR has them.[/QUOTE]What is the difference between DR and Brazil as far as Covid is concerned?

In Sao Paulo, I think they take it quite seriously, hand sanitizer everywhere. I even saw a clerk who cleaned her hand every time she touched a bill.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2612413]I've done my research and its a personal decision. I don't want to spook anyone by going into details. If anyone feels comfortable going please go ahead and I am enjoying the reports of those who have ventured. Covid has hit people who I know. One died of it not too long ago and quite recently a neighbor got it and recovered. It is quite unpleasant and something I would not want to experience. I am following my intuition on this.

Europe seems fairly safe but there appear to be too many restrictions which do not strike me as the right environment for a vacation right now. A condo on a DR beach seems fine enough. I like all shades as long as they are tall and fit and the DR has those.[/QUOTE]Sorry about your losses, that's never an easy thing. Thanks for the answer. It's always best to follow your own intuition, sometimes things go well, but sometimes they don't and then you'd be kicking yourself for not following your own instincts, so I get it. I will continue reporting when I head back, and we'll keep the girls warm for you no problem LOL. Let me know if there's someone in particular you'd like me to give your best regards LOL.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2612412]Now I think you need to give MDE a try. You get same quality of girls at much lower price and do it regularly like these guys.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the idea, I need to do some reading there. Some of those gals look to skinny for my taste, is that what's mostly available there? I prefer them with big bunda and thicker legs, but do throw in a spinner from time to time.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2612414]
In Sao Paulo, I think they take it quite seriously, hand sanitizer everywhere. I even saw a clerk who cleaned her hand every time she touched a bill.[/QUOTE]I am very surprised to see how almost everyone in SP religiously wear masks not only indoors but outdoors like while walking on the streets. I saw same in Rio.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2612368]Went to Bahamas last night around 10:00. Me and fellow ISGer talked to a few girls who showed us the downstairs area. Still being renovated so nothing to do there we went back upstairs. About 15-20 girls. Called over a petit morena about a 7 for my standards quoted 700 for 1 HR 1000 for 2 HR and 500 for additional hours. I was going to take her to my hotel but decided against it as she was asking me to pay her upfront for that and I did not feel comfortable. Took her to the room for 2 hours. A little hastle as she said I could pass the card with her instead of paying the 20 percentage fee by why paying her downstairs. Her machine was not accepting my card so hat to go back down to pay anyway. Cut the mood a little but once we got back to it the session went well. The room I got was #08 the walls were all mirrors definitely not as nice as Scandalo or even Bomboa rooms. The shower was tiny and had no door so the entire bathroom got wet. As for the girls she was good but nothing out of this world although I had had the best session of my life the night before at Scandalo.[/QUOTE]Becareful this is a known scam at Bahamas and some girls have migrated to Scandallo. I was tipped off by one of the girls that the security working there tried to recruit her into this practice. Check your bank statements because all the failed attempts seem very suspicious.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2612422]Thanks for the idea, ...[/QUOTE]I mentioned it because you speak Spanish. It's waste that you don't take advantage of it.

My personal impression is what you see in the picture is pretty much what you will get in that region. There are variations but the general look and appearance has a narrow range. They are also not as tall as Brazilian girls on average. You won't see the same type of pale skin girls like you can more easily see in Brazil.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2612577]Becareful this is a known scam at Bahamas and some girls have migrated to Scandallo. I was tipped off by one of the girls that the security working there tried to recruit her into this practice. Check your bank statements because all the failed attempts seem very suspicious.[/QUOTE]All good I could see the transaction was not going through also checked my bank real time. Her machine probably had a bad connection.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2612414]What is the difference between DR and Brazil as far as Covid is concerned? ....[/QUOTE]I didn't want to go there but I did not want to not answer your question.

Brazil: over 21 million cases. Over 600,000 deaths. 2,800 deaths per I million population.

DR: 364,000 cases. 4,000 deaths. 370 deaths per 1 million population.

That being said many more ISG posters have reported from Brazil than the DR and from what I read all visitors to Brazil have been having a rollicking and safe time so don't mind me.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2612794]I didn't want to go there but I did not want to not answer your question.

Brazil: over 21 million cases. Over 600,000 deaths. 2,800 deaths per I million population.

DR: 364,000 cases. 4,000 deaths. 370 deaths per 1 million population.

That being said many more ISG posters have reported from Brazil than the DR and from what I read all visitors to Brazil have been having a rollicking and safe time so don't mind me.[/QUOTE]I would bet there's been gross underreporting out of the DR too. I don't trust any of these figures from second and third world countries really.

Anyone knows how are Saturday's like in Scandallo?

Also Bomboa is bad, and the space is too small, quality not good, not too many girls but entrance is very much worth it.

Scandallo this Thursday is the worse I have seen. Thought I was about to pay for $600 reais entrance, but in the end only payed 400,because I did not use all 200 of the consumo.

Talents are so much lacking now that fits my standards.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2612794]I didn't want to go there but I did not want to not answer your question...[/QUOTE]Thanks for replying. My best friend was planning to come to Brazil to travel with me later this month but decided not to come a few weeks ago. Hope next year will be better.

Kudos Turgid for looking this up. You do have to consider that urban Brazilians are more likely to be vaccinated however. I'the imagine Sousa is more like Manaus than São Paulo. Uncertain times for sure.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2612794]I didn't want to go there but I did not want to not answer your question.

Brazil: over 21 million cases. Over 600,000 deaths. 2,800 deaths per I million population.

DR: 364,000 cases. 4,000 deaths. 370 deaths per 1 million population.

That being said many more ISG posters have reported from Brazil than the DR and from what I read all visitors to Brazil have been having a rollicking and safe time so don't mind me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nuupter;2612933]Anyone knows how are Saturday's like in Scandallo?

Also Bomboa is bad, and the space is too small, quality not good, not too many girls but entrance is very much worth it.

Scandallo this Thursday is the worse I have seen. Thought I was about to pay for $600 reais entrance, but in the end only payed 400,because I did not use all 200 of the consumo.

Talents are so much lacking now that fits my standards.[/QUOTE]I am puzzled as to why you thought it would be 600 real entrance. Unless the policy has changed, and unless there is a special event, the entrance after 7 PM is 400 real, of which you can apply 200 real to consumption. It is not 400 plus 200 consumption. If you don't use the full 200 real consumption, it does not change that you owe 400 real when leaving.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2611883]... They are a good value, and you can find some real diamonds in them....[/QUOTE]I was at Prime the other day, saw the available lineup about 5 girls. I already had sessions with 2 of them, one repeat and I wanted someone new so I waited. Then Alissa became available, when I asked 30 seconds later, someone already took her. So that is pretty much what is going on with me to most clinicas now since I have been here for a while. I checked Alissa's review after I got back to my apartment. It wasn't stellar so I don't plan on seeing her.

For the past 2 weeks, I had session with 3 new arrivales by luck. The attached are two of them. I don't usually pick the second one because she is pretty big. Given how big she is, it was a surprise to me how firm she was with everything in the right place, all natural, no sagging. LOL. I asked her age after the session, she said she is 19 and just started. That changed my view about bigger girls. I would not have picked her in Scandallo or Connection even though she has a pretty face which was the reason I picked her. Because of her, I sessioned with another newbie similar to her shape today, and in the room she told me she has been in SP for 4 days and today is her first day and I was her first customer. This one is even firmer, it's not muscle but just firm. She said she was 20.

I met the first one because I was at the clinica at 11 which is too early. The manager showed me her picture and told me to come back later to be her first customer of that date.

Newbiews are easy to tell, they usually are bad at making bed and less polished, like hairy legs. haha

I think for a couple of weeks. It is not hard to find someone that is doable in clinicas, but for longer period and if you don't repeat, then it maybe difficult.

Will travel to Brasil for a couple of days, my first time. Staying at the Hyatt Sao Paulo.

My questions are: How do they handle visitors at the Hyatt? Are there any government policies about that?

Finally going to be in Sao Paulo this week, and it's been a long time coming. I remember about two years ago I had my trip booked to Brazil, but accidentally booked over Carnival. Considering that Carnival is supposed to be very slow in Scandallo, I rebooted to a month later. Alas, the pandemic struck and I haven't been able to plan for SP until now. I'm planning on visiting the clinicas just to see what they have to offer, but I'm probably going to spend most of my time in Scandallo. It's been touted as the best P4 P location in the world by many on this forum, and the nightclub / lux setting seems like it would be right up my alley. Looking forward to getting my reports out there.

Ironically I think I booked over another holiday this time. Anyone know if Tuesday's "Our Lady of Aparecida's Day" will have much of an impact on the number of girls? I guess we'll see. Also I hope that I'll be able to disagree with Nuupter's recent claim that the looks at Scandallo have gone down.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2613395]I'm planning on visiting the clinicas just to see what they have to offer, but I'm probably going to spend most of my time in Scandallo. It's been touted as the best P4 P location in the world by many on this forum, and the nightclub / lux setting seems like it would be right up my alley.[/QUOTE]I for one have never claimed that Scandallo was the best mongering destination in the world. What I have said is that it's the best "of its type" in the world, meaning the lux / nightclub category. That's a very important clarification and distinction. Now if that kind of environment is your thing, then as long as the lineup has recovered from the challenges posed by COVID, you're going to love it!

[QUOTE=Michager;2613248]Will travel to Brasil for a couple of days, my first time. Staying at the Hyatt Sao Paulo.

My questions are: How do they handle visitors at the Hyatt? Are there any government policies about that?[/QUOTE]Security will usually request you register your female guests with the front desk for your security (as well as the hotel's).

I've brought back GPS to the Grand Hyatt 3-4 x times (usually at night from Scandallo). I got stopped 3 x and asked politely to register my guest and the one time we were able to walk to the elevator, she was dressed casually like my SO.

Make sure you book a room with 2 or more guests in your reservation or they will charge you a guest fee.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2613395]Finally going to be in Sao Paulo this week, and it's been a long time coming. I remember about two years ago I had my trip booked to Brazil, but accidentally booked over Carnival. Considering that Carnival is supposed to be very slow in Scandallo, I rebooted to a month later. Alas, the pandemic struck and I haven't been able to plan for SP until now. I'm planning on visiting the clinicas just to see what they have to offer, but I'm probably going to spend most of my time in Scandallo. It's been touted as the best P4 P location in the world by many on this forum, and the nightclub / lux setting seems like it would be right up my alley. Looking forward to getting my reports out there.

Ironically I think I booked over another holiday this time. Anyone know if Tuesday's "Our Lady of Aparecida's Day" will have much of an impact on the number of girls? I guess we'll see. Also I hope that I'll be able to disagree with Nuupter's recent claim that the looks at Scandallo have gone down.[/QUOTE]I've been to SP 3 x this year and the talent level (both in quantity and quality) in Scandallo keeps improving. I chalk most of it due to the improving Covid situation in SP.

I don't believe Our Lady of Aparecida's Day is a big deal like Carnival, Christmas or Easter with regards to reducing the amount of girls working.

I'm coming to SP this week too (10/13 to 10/19) so if you or other ISG bros want a wingman, shoot me a PM. I usually do clinicas by day and Scandallo at night. I hope to check out Cafe Photo and maybe Lotus Lounge this trip as well, as I hear they just reopened.

[QUOTE=Michager;2613248]Will travel to Brasil for a couple of days, my first time. Staying at the Hyatt Sao Paulo.

My questions are: How do they handle visitors at the Hyatt? Are there any government policies about that?[/QUOTE]There is no issue with having visitors in the Grand Hyatt, if they arrive alone, they will need to present an ID at the reception, where they will be registered as such. Keep in mind that visitors registered remain in your hotel record. If that is a problem for you, suggest that you arrive with the visitor and proceed to the room. Also, make the room reservation for 2 people to simplify matters. If you have not been to the Grand Hyatt before, the facilities are great, the location is safe, the hotel crowd is basically business people, but there is practically nothing around it but business buildings. There are two shopping centers 2-3 blocks away.

Vagabundo is going to SP, Wednesday. Friday.

My good friend, JimmyBoy, is in SP for a few more days. So Vagabundo is headed to SP for a few days to catch up.

Alert the hoars. Lube up those holes ladies.

Just sitting down to write after quite an eventful day. After reaching SP early in the morning (and enduring probably an hour waiting in the immigration line), I checked into the hotel, ate breakfast, rested up, and hit the town for a little tour of the Moema clinicas.

Clinica Tour.

The four I saw were Enjoy Spa, Miruna, Abbobora, and Prime. I began my trek just before 2 pm, and from what I saw I think I was too early. Both Enjoy and Prime only had two or three girls available, and they weren't really my taste. What is my taste? Generally speaking: white girls with pretty faces, skinny ones having a definite edge over the thicker ones, blondes also have a distinct advantage. I'm not really huge T&A, I prefer them natural but a tastefully enhanced bosom is acceptable (no fake asses please).

Abbobora had about 10 girls, a few of them were cute but no one checked all the boxes. But there was one girl (Clara maybe) who seemed to have a nice flirty attitude and I wanted to take her, but really wanted to check out the other clinicas first.

So I went to Miruna next and they had about 7 girls, 2 of whom were definitely a cut above the rest optics wise. I noted the name Amanda, she fit my conditions as laid out above, but I wanted to go back to Abbobora for the cute one. Unfortunately, she was taken when I got there so I ended up trudging back to Miruna (luckily they're like 30 seconds away from each other).

I picked up Amanda for a half hour. I would say she's a 7. 5. Cute face, all natural, no tattoos, blonde. She said she used to work at Scandallo for a couple years, and if I had to guess I'd put her age in the upper 20's. I could imagine her strutting her stuff in the club a few years ago.

And then things start to go downhill. We're in the room and she whips out a condom for a CBJ. I am basically unable to become and stay hard with a CBJ at this point, so the whole session was kinda ruined. I didn't try to kiss her, I'd imagine it would have been met with similar roadblocks. I'm open to non-newbies' tips on this matter. When should service be negotiatied? At the sala with the "mamasan"? In the room with the girl before the deed?

But really, this experience is actually making things clearer for me about my own tastes. These type of "massage parlor" settings are really not my cup of tea. I find it to be rather forced and unnatural, with very limited opportunity to gauge and develop any chemistry, especially with limited Portuguese and the absence of socially lubricating alcohol. I've noticed a same thing in places like Thai massage shops and Medellin casas, it's really not what I prefer.

I enjoy myself much more in strip club environments. I can sit back and slowly get more and more tipsy while gauging all the talent at once (rather than havaing to walk around to several clinicas). Chatting and getting familiar in the dark. I've had lots of fun in Thai gogo bars, Tijuana's Hong Kong, and Medellin's La Isla. I imagine a Scandallo environment would be better for me, even though I'd imagine it's not quite as in your face as an actual strip club.

The redeeming quality is, of course, the price. The whole adventure at Miruna cost me 190 BRL (just 35 USD). At that price point, how disappointed could I really wbe? I'd imagine for someone with more time than me (I'm only here for a few days) they would be able to extract an immense amount of value from these places. With patience, experience negotiating, and Portuguese skills, one can sort past all the disappointing performances and find a hottie with a great personality. So lessons learned, of course things can be better, but maybe clinicas as people have already said before on this forum. Different strokes for different folks.

Overall, most of the clinica girls I saw were 6 and below, but there were maybe 20% 7's and above. For a point of reference, I would say they were definitely better than the average Pattaya massage parlor or Medellin clinica.

Another thing to note, I was talking with Amanda and she mentioned that the whole weekend was kind of slow, with Tuesday being a national holiday (Lady of Aparecida Day) many people were taking Monday off as well. That might explain why there were such few girls avaiable in the clinicas. She also mentioned that Tuesday And Wednesday would probably be slow too. Looks like once again I picked the wrong week to be in SP!

On to the more boring stuff:

Hotel.

I'm staying at the Grand Hyatt. Seeing as most of my time will be spent in my hotel, having a really nice location is important. I am loving the 5-star setting and at this price point its hard to beat. The staff are complete class acts, they upgraded me to a suite, the food so far has been great (breakfast and Grand Lounge happy hour are free for Globalists). Loading up on the pao de quiejo.

Covid test.

Another point of drama. I opted to get the test offered by Hyatt themselves, where they have a parternship with a lab nearby. I was told it cost 280 BRL, but wasn't told that there would be a 350 BRL surcharge for coming to my room. I was not happy at the prospect of paying a Scandallo girls' worth just for a goddamn rapid test, and I raised a stink to the manager. Fortunately they said they would refund the amount from my reservation. Squeaky wheel gets the grease!

Portuguese.

I speak fairly good Spanish, and boy Portuguese is tough. I can barely understand what people are saying, but they seem to be better at understanding my Spanish / Portuguese hybrid. I did a few weeks of Pimsleur before coming here, but it's really a different beast. For sure Spanish is a life-saver, but I look forward to becoming more adept at Protuguese. Hyatt staff is largely fluent in English thankfully.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2613736]Overall, most of the clinica girls I saw were 6 and below.[/QUOTE]It would appear that we have the same kind of optics scale, at least with respect to the clinicas. It will be interesting to read what you think about the current talent at Scandallo. I rate that at an 8 on average, but that was pre-pandemic too.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2613736]I'm open to non-newbies' tips on this matter. When should service be negotiatied? At the sala with the "mamasan"? In the room with the girl before the deed?

But really, this experience is actually making things clearer for me about my own tastes. These type of "massage parlor" settings are really not my cup of tea. I find it to be rather forced and unnatural, with very limited opportunity to gauge and develop any chemistry, especially with limited Portuguese and the absence of socially lubricating alcohol. I've noticed a same thing in places like Thai massage shops and Medellin casas, it's really not what I prefer.

I enjoy myself much more in strip club environments. I can sit back and slowly get more and more tipsy while gauging all the talent at once (rather than havaing to walk around to several clinicas). Chatting and getting familiar in the dark. I've had lots of fun in Thai gogo bars, Tijuana's Hong Kong, and Medellin's La Isla. I imagine a Scandallo environment would be better for me, even though I'd imagine it's not quite as in your face as an actual strip club.

The redeeming quality is, of course, the price. The whole adventure at Miruna cost me 190 BRL (just 35 USD). At that price point, how disappointed could I really wbe? I'd imagine for someone with more time than me (I'm only here for a few days) they would be able to extract an immense amount of value from these places. With patience, experience negotiating, and Portuguese skills, one can sort past all the disappointing performances and find a hottie with a great personality. So lessons learned, of course things can be better, but maybe clinicas as people have already said before on this forum. Different strokes for different folks.[/QUOTE]You hit the nail on the head about why I am not a big fan of clinicas as compared to clubs / boates. Unless you frequent the place / girls often, it's hard to gauge chemistry and service. I guess if you have the Porto skills, you can ask the MMS about service.

Some guys here say they ask the girl (or have the MMS ask the girl) if they do X, why or Z before committing, but I would find that awkward to do before taking them to the room for a variety of reasons. I prefer to feel then out or "interview" them over a drink at a club, whether it is in Scandallo or other boates, HKC (Tijuana), LVD or Space (CTG), Waichan (HKG), M&J (Shanghai), FKKs (Germany and Switzerland), etc.

Besides. It's so cheap (R180-90), I don't even bother to empty the chamber and just move on to the next. It's does suck to lose the time though if you aren't there for more then a few days. And I also do not like the walking by between the clinicas. I've taken an Uber from Enjoy to Abbobora and from Miruna to Prime. As it's so cheap.

I think you got bad luck / timing, as all my friends and I had BBBJ and DFK without asking at clinicas. This is over 30 sessions. It is usually a given that DFK and BBBJ are offered by clinica girls (and boates girls too). But in this hobby, everything is YMMV. Might be a gringo thing or she is a newbie or other variable.

[QUOTE]Another thing to note, I was talking with Amanda and she mentioned that the whole weekend was kind of slow, with Tuesday being a national holiday (Lady of Aparecida Day) many people were taking Monday off as well. That might explain why there were such few girls avaiable in the clinicas. She also mentioned that Tuesday And Wednesday would probably be slow too. Looks like once again I picked the wrong week to be in SP!
[/QUOTE]I've been told that Sunday to Tuesday are slow by many clinica girls so maybe it isn't the holidays.

[QUOTE]
On to the more boring stuff:

Hotel.

I'm staying at the Grand Hyatt. Seeing as most of my time will be spent in my hotel, having a really nice location is important. I am loving the 5-star setting and at this price point its hard to beat. The staff are complete class acts, they upgraded me to a suite, the food so far has been great (breakfast and Grand Lounge happy hour are free for Globalists). Loading up on the pao de quiejo.

Covid test.

Another point of drama. I opted to get the test offered by Hyatt themselves, where they have a parternship with a lab nearby. I was told it cost 280 BRL, but wasn't told that there would be a 350 BRL surcharge for coming to my room. I was not happy at the prospect of paying a Scandallo girls' worth just for a goddamn rapid test, and I raised a stink to the manager. Fortunately they said they would refund the amount from my reservation. Squeaky wheel gets the grease!

Portuguese.

I speak fairly good Spanish, and boy Portuguese is tough. I can barely understand what people are saying, but they seem to be better at understanding my Spanish / Portuguese hybrid. I did a few weeks of Pimsleur before coming here, but it's really a different beast. For sure Spanish is a life-saver, but I look forward to becoming more adept at Protuguese. Hyatt staff is largely fluent in English thankfully.[/QUOTE]I am also a fan of the Grand Hyatt. Their staff is very accommodating, especially for Globalist. Location isn't the best for Scandallo or Connection or if you want to go to nice restaurants near Jardins Paulista or from / to GRU, but it's okay for clinicas in Moema, Brooklin or Villa Olimpia.

I usually split my time between the Grand Hyatt and Renaissance. The Fasano is also nice. I've found all 3 to be girl friendly, as long as you book 2 or more in your reservation.

I once did the Covid test at GRU on arrival for a quick 3 day trip. It was about R200 for the antigen. But the last few trips, I've went to a Drogasil or Droga ria instead. Cost R100 for an antigen and there are tons of locations all over SP, especially near Grand Hyatt and Renaissance.

My Spanish is okay and I can't make head or tails over spoken Brazilian Portuguese unless they speak slowly. I can read it okay though. I'm doing Duolingo now so hope it helps for my next trip. Some of my friends did it daily for 3-4 weeks and found it to be a big help.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2613736]Just sitting down to write after quite an eventful day. After reaching SP early in the morning (and enduring probably an hour waiting in the immigration line), I checked into the hotel, ate breakfast, rested up, and hit the town for a little tour of the Moema clinicas.

Clinica Tour.

The four I saw were Enjoy Spa, Miruna, Abbobora, and Prime. I began my trek just before 2 pm, and from what I saw I think I was too early. Both Enjoy and Prime only had two or three girls available, and they weren't really my taste. What is my taste? Generally speaking: white girls with pretty faces, skinny ones having a definite edge over the thicker ones, blondes also have a distinct advantage. I'm not really huge T&A, I prefer them natural but a tastefully enhanced bosom is acceptable (no fake asses please).

Abbobora had about 10 girls, a few of them were cute but no one checked all the boxes. But there was one girl (Clara maybe) who seemed to have a nice flirty attitude and I wanted to take her, but really wanted to check out the other clinicas first..[/QUOTE]Great, thorough review. Thank you for taking the time to share your experiences. I'd be really interested to hear a review on Scandallo from you. Wish you a great rest of your trip and stay safe!

Mais devagar por favor!

I definitely write and read it better and it's great when you get to a point of chatting (texting) in Portuguese. But you can def do it in real life. Just tell them that you can't understand when they speak fast and you need them to speak slowly. Spoken slowly you will start to follow it if you practice enough. Just like English. We don't think we are speaking fast but it's lightning to a foreign speaker. Speed makes all the difference.

Just wanted to give my 2 cents to any interested on my first experience. This forum has helped me a lot and I wanted to contribute the details I often seek.

My experience: Been traveling since 2007. First trip was to Rio.

Covid: Going to from the US, if you can afford the PCR test at the airport, just get one there. I was not allowed to travel as they did not accept my test. Returning back to USA. GRU has a covid station on site. I used it. It was like 38 $ US. It takes four hours for results. They say they will email you. I got the email that said get the app to see results and the app was not functioning for me or my comrade. They will print out results for you at airport. I was booked to leave Monday at 1 am. I went Saturday at 12 am took 15 minutes and went out to the club. Covid sucks and I question if it is worth traveling during it.

Scandello: Says it is open from 12 Pm-6 am. If you have ever had the privilege of going to Discoteca Help (Rio De Janerio), this spot is the best part of the trip and it is Help on steroids. Unfortunately, I stand in Jardins which is like 25 min away by Uber. Discreet location. You may even worry where you are being taken but it is all good. Entry (400 R $) 75 $ which includes a credit for 2 small drinks. You need ID as they give you a credit card which you will pay for, to include entry fee, upon exit. Staff is friendly. Spot has live music playing, luxury tables, booths plenty of space. Huge restaurant area if you meet a girl, you are hungry, or just want to get to a quieter area of this huge facility. More like a one level convention center. So after you check in and get your credit card, you are escorted to the elevator and off upstairs to level 2. Once you exit the elevator, small bar to your right and the restaurant area. Walk forward, you enter the club area and the women. As I read in these forums, if you can not find something here, you may want to question your sexuality. I saw around 100 women on a Wednesday and Thursday night. A lot of regulars each night. I will admit, I get there late, 1230-0130 am. But I was highly disappointed Friday and Saturday night. Women selection was more like 4-50 women. For context, people want to be with their families and children Friday and Saturday and you will see that in the streets. So all your food and drinks you pay with your assigned card. There is a swimming pool area, outdoor areas, and rooms for the love making. Girls are not cheap. They are cheaper if you hit it on location. Rooms started at 180 R $ (32 $). I prefer to take them back to my apartment but that cost more and I understand that. I admit I am a pretty boy so I may look like I have money but all started at 2000 R $ (400 $). Some even had this price at 330 AM which makes no sense when both our options are getting limited. I paid 1000 R $ (200 $) which I am fine with as it is in my budget. Some get more some got less. Having been going to Rio I have paid from 150 $-500 $ but the normal was always from 150-250 $. Same with other countries. Colombia Panama. So to smash there, you pay the house for the room selection 1 HR time and then roll out back to the club floor or go home. If you want to do what I did, you go pay the house the girls exit fee 250 R $ (45 $) and before you exit the building you will have to pay your credit card off. They accept credit cards too. Your girl will ask you to pay her tab too just to let you know. Whatever tab they acquired for the night or like my girl, she asked me to pay for her parking but that's fine bc she was our ride to the crib. I suggest you pay by credit card bc if security sees you paying with cash, they will try to get a tip from you as you walk out which management needs to do something about bc that is annoying.

I hit a few other spots. None like Scandello and all were light on numbers. Plenty of beautiful things to select as Casarao but a lot more men than women. While Scandello is like a Larry Flint l Playboy strip club, Casarao is like a local strip club but not ghetto. A lot of other spots were closed due to covid. Clinicas were open but I prefer to build a repour with women as I would in a club rather than select the number girl you want. Pay bang. It has its place in life but not my preference. Bumble and Tinder work well. I actually try to find women and date them as I enjoy the malls and having normal dates with women.

Transportation: Traffic sucks. I used Uber everywhere. Safe. At night use Uber Black or you will be cancelled all night. Subway is safe and 4 R $. A lot faster than walking Av Paulista.

Apartment: I stayed in Jardins away from a lot of action but safe place and close to Av Paulista. I prefer Airbnb's bc hate feeling like a tourist. I cook, workout, I like feeling like I live here and not living out of my luggage.

Overall. I was happy to cross it off my list but it is no Rio. I was telling a girl, how in Rio, you can walk the street and get flirted with or get a number. In SP, it is like NYC, gets cold and everyone has somewhere to be. I think I broke my new maybe 3-4 x walking the strip. In Rio it is all day turning looking at phat ass. I was happy to experience Scandello but if you are new to the travel game, SP is not worth it. There are better places Medellin, Cartagena right now. In the past Panama Rio Costa Rica.

The golden rule of reducing the chance of getting screwed is being clear on what you expect and the price. This applies to all pay for sex places where you are presented with a lineup and don't know the girls and what they will do with you. As the saying goes, if you don't ask for it, you can't complain when you don't get it. I always ask to speak to the girl to see if she is willing to enthusiastically do what I require. If I get a no, or any hesitation or reluctant yes, I know that the session will not be how I like it and so do not choose her. Talking to the girl also tells her that she is not just a piece of meat that you want blow a load in, like the guys who chose girls after the presentation and the girl doesn't even know who she is going to find in the room to fuck. Talking to the girl also gives her a way to reject you if she doesn't like you for some reason by saying that they don't do whatever it is you want and thus not choose them, benefiting you by avoiding a session with a girl that doesn't want to be there with you.

I do not recall ever being told I could not do so, whether in Rio prives, Sao Paulo clinicas, or Thailand massage parlors and soapies. If they ever did, I would walk out of the place.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2613744]... I rate that at an 8 on average, but that was pre-pandemic too.[/QUOTE]Not that I don't believe you, that is before. I don't rate girl but there is no way the average is 8 at this point of time. The alternative is your rating is very forgiving but I have seen some photos you posted and I agree with you on some of those if not all.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2613736]...white girls with pretty faces, skinny ones having a definite edge over the thicker ones, blondes also have a distinct advantage.[/QUOTE]Try Mel at 57 house, Yasmin at Prime, or Eva at Tangara. I think they are all older than 25 and some don't work everyday. They are above average and the service I got from them are all good. And I have to keep some in my own pocket, lol, just kidding

I used to ask about services, but I don't anymore since another member said he never asked. For some reason, the service is getting better but my need is simple.

Once you know how things work. I don't think Portuguese is that important at clinicas or for short time anymore. You don't really need to talk to them.

Be careful with girls who have worked at boate. I don't want to name names. I read some bad reviews about some on gpguia too.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2613736]Just sitting down to write after quite an eventful day. After reaching SP early in the morning (and enduring probably an hour waiting in the immigration line), I checked into the hotel, ate breakfast, rested up, and hit the town for a little tour of the Moema clinicas.

Clinica Tour.

The four I saw were Enjoy Spa, Miruna, Abbobora, and Prime. I began my trek just before 2 pm, and from what I saw I think I was too early. Both Enjoy and Prime only had two or three girls available, and they weren't really my taste. What is my taste? Generally speaking: white girls with pretty faces, skinny ones having a definite edge over the thicker ones, blondes also have a distinct advantage. I'm not really huge T&A, I prefer them natural but a tastefully enhanced bosom is acceptable (no fake asses please).

Abbobora had about 10 girls, a few of them were cute but no one checked all the boxes. But there was one girl (Clara maybe) who seemed to have a nice flirty attitude and I wanted to take her, but really wanted to check out the other clinicas first.

So I went to Miruna next and they had about 7 girls, 2 of whom were definitely a cut above the rest optics wise. I noted the name Amanda, she fit my conditions as laid out above, but I wanted to go back to Abbobora for the cute one. Unfortunately, she was taken when I got there so I ended up trudging back to Miruna (luckily they're like 30 seconds away from each other)..[/QUOTE]In my recent trip I had all girls perform BBBJ in those CLínicas you mentioned. No need to interview anyone either, I guess I have a good eye when girls are presented to me, look in their eyes as they come to introduce themselves and pay attention to their body language. I thought quality was about 7's to 7.5's in a couple of cases, and their service was great. I received DFK, BBBJ, DATY, DATO, BLS, DT, 69, and was never declined.

The only time I was asked for upcharge for BBBJ was at Carinas by a girl I picked off a tablet, I was tired of walking around and messed up.

Also, the first day on a trip sometimes can be a bit overwhelming, but give the Clinicas another try, you'll find your match.

[QUOTE=KcinHeat;2613787].. but if you are new to the travel game, SP is not worth it. There are better places Medellin, Cartagena right now. ...[/QUOTE]This I disagree. It depends on what you are looking for. For newbies, SP is easier to get BBBJ, DFK because you can get it in clinicas and Scandallo by default. You can't get those by default at La Isla or in casas, and in most cases you just don't get them in casas. FB is popular because that is where you can get GFE but that takes some work.

Food in SP is much better.

[QUOTE=KcinHeat;2613787]...Your girl will ask you to pay her tab too just to let you know. ... [/QUOTE]You don't have to pay it. Best to pick one earlier so you can drop her and find replacement.

[QUOTE=KcinHeat;2613787]... she asked me to pay for her parking but that's fine bc she was our ride to the crib. [/QUOTE]Is her name Emily?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2613801]Not that I don't believe you, that is before. I don't rate girl but there is no way the average is 8 at this point of time. The alternative is your rating is very forgiving but I have seen some photos you posted and I agree with you on some of those if not all.[/QUOTE]Considering that I think most clinica girls are at 6 and below, I don't think that my scale is "forgiving" at all. I have high optics standards and am extremely picky, and have only gotten to be more so with time. Some guys have taste, and some don't. I do. I went to a swinging event over the summer attended by 1,500 people and saw just two women I was attracted to. Two, and one of them was actually working the event! I know that at the end of the day, it's all subjective. But what I have learned over time is that if I say that a woman is attractive, more people (both men and women) tend to agree with me than not. Based on your words above, that includes you.

Does anyone know if this Marriott will allow me to register a late night garota? I have to burn a free night certificate by year's end and this looks like a good place to use it. After the one night I'll be moving into a cheaper and known girl friendly hotel.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2613940]Does anyone know if this Marriott will allow me to register a late night garota? I have to burn a free night certificate by year's end and this looks like a good place to use it. After the one night I'll be moving into a cheaper and known girl friendly hotel.[/QUOTE]I have brought in two garotas at 1:30 am! You are good.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2613940]Does anyone know if this Marriott will allow me to register a late night garota? I have to burn a free night certificate by year's end and this looks like a good place to use it. After the one night I'll be moving into a cheaper and known girl friendly hotel.[/QUOTE]Asking about the girl-friendly status of the SP Renaissance reminds me of an old joke. "The hotel manager called me to ask if I had a girl in my room. I said no, so he sent one up." There are usually 5-6 (very obvious) GDPs working the hotel bar. They don't approach the customers, but they are there for the taking. This hotel is truly a full-service Marriott.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2613890].... Based on your words above, that includes you.[/QUOTE]I think we both agree this is a different time. We can only find out when you get here.

If the average of boate is 8, will it be fair to say one can find 10% 9s and 5% 10s? That means one can find at least 10 girls that are very attractive during weekends. I don't see it.

To put it in context, I will send you a club model link who I think is the hottest I have met in SP.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2613890]... Some guys have taste, and some don't. I do......[/QUOTE]I'm not so sure about that. Lets say there's a guy who 'has taste' and only wants to bang girls who he rates 7 and above. Now he considers that he has taste and does not want to fuck a woman who has been with hundreds (maybe more) of men and avoids prostitutes even if they are 7 and above. However, he does not have the ability to woo 7's and above so he wiles away the time masturbating alone at home. Who would consider such a person as having taste? What about the guy who will go with the 5 or 6 in his eyes when that is available rather than sadly masturbating alone at home but will happily go with a 9 or 10 when he has the opportunity. Does the guy who insists on jerking off have better taste than the one who bangs 5s and 6s and gets 9's or 10's when they are available to him?

Additionally, a man may consider he has taste and go with a prostitute he considers a 9 but then another man looks at him in disgust because he thinks she's a 5. Who decides what is taste?

Is it a matter of money? Does the man who can afford to go to Scandallo every day of the week and bang 9's and 10's have better taste than the man who can't afford to and bangs what he can afford?

Personally I consider that I have taste but will not adjudicate on that of another man as beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2614226]I'm not so sure about that. Lets say there's a guy who 'has taste' and only wants to bang girls who he rates 7 and above. Now he considers that he has taste and does not want to fuck a woman who has been with hundreds (maybe more) of men and avoids prostitutes even if they are 7 and above. However, he does not have the ability to woo 7's and above so he wiles away the time masturbating alone at home. Who would consider such a person as having taste? What about the guy who will go with the 5 or 6 in his eyes when that is available rather than sadly masturbating alone at home but will happily go with a 9 or 10 when he has the opportunity. Does they guy who insists on unillateral sex have better taste than the one who gets 9's or 10's when he can.

Additionally, a man may consider he has taste and go with a prostitute he considers a 9 but then another man looks at him in disgust because he thinks she's a 5. Who decides what is taste?

Is it a matter of money? Does the man who can afford to go to Scandallo every day of the week and bang 9's and 10's have better taste than the man who can't afford to and bangs what he can afford?[/QUOTE]You're not talking apples to apples and oranges to oranges. You brought in all kinds of other factors that involve things other than optics alone, which is what this is about. Not, for example, how somebody feels about fucking a woman that lots of other guys are fucking. How does she look is the operative inquiry. That's the point. So, I said it before, and I'll say it again. When The Cane says that a woman is attractive, more people than not tend to agree (both men and women by the way). That's having "optics taste". And I am quite sure about that. Now, [B]that's[/B] keeping it straightforward and to the point without muddying the waters with a bunch of extraneous factors that nobody was talking about, or is concerned with to be frank. The matter is simply does this woman have physical characteristics that make her hot or not? That's what's at the crux of this eternal debate.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2614248]You're not talking apples to apples and oranges to oranges. You brought in all kinds of other factors that involve things other than optics alone, which is what this is about. Not, for example, how somebody feels about fucking a woman that lots of other guys are fucking. How does she look is the operative inquiry. That's the point. So, I said it before, and I'll say it again. When The Cane says that a woman is attractive, more people than not tend to agree (both men and women by the way). That's having "optics taste". And I am quite sure about that. Now, [B]that's[/B] keeping it straightforward and to the point without muddying the waters with a bunch of extraneous factors that nobody was talking about, or is concerned with to be frank. The matter is simply does this woman have physical characteristics that make her hot or not? That's what's at the crux of this eternal debate.[/QUOTE]This is very similar to having a good taste in clothing / style. Some people have it, some people don't, no matter if they can afford expensive stuff or not. A good example of a bad taste would be a guy wearing all Gucci / D&G / etc that looks like a clown.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2614226]I'm not so sure about that. Lets say there's a guy who 'has taste' and only wants to bang girls who he rates 7 and above. Now he considers that he has taste and does not want to fuck a woman who has been with hundreds (maybe more) of men and avoids prostitutes even if they are 7 and above. However, he does not have the ability to woo 7's and above so he wiles away the time masturbating alone at home. Who would consider such a person as having taste? What about the guy who will go with the 5 or 6 in his eyes when that is available rather than sadly masturbating alone at home but will happily go with a 9 or 10 when he has the opportunity. Does the guy who insists on jerking off have better taste than the one who bangs 5s and 6s and gets 9's or 10's when they are available to him?

Additionally, a man may consider he has taste and go with a prostitute he considers a 9 but then another man looks at him in disgust because he thinks she's a 5. Who decides what is taste?

Is it a matter of money? Does the man who can afford to go to Scandallo every day of the week and bang 9's and 10's have better taste than the man who can't afford to and bangs what he can afford?

Personally I consider that I have taste but will not adjudicate on that of another man as beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.[/QUOTE]For some reason, I am reminded of the bathing scene from the restored version of Spartacus.

Crassus (Olivier): Do you consider the eating of oysters to be moral and the eating of snails to be immoral?

Antoninus (Curtis): No, master.

Crassus (Olivier): Of course not. It is all a matter of taste, isn't it?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2614258]This is very similar to having a good taste in clothing / style. Some people have it, some people don't, no matter if they can afford expensive stuff or not. A good example of a bad taste would be a guy wearing all Gucci / D&G / etc that looks like a clown.[/QUOTE]What media defined as sex symbol in the 70's through 2000, I like.

I'm not into today's USA Woke movement of everyone woman is beautiful.

Democrats are fucking retarded people and will do anything to promote Fugly (no taste) as beautiful.

MiamiBoy1 is correct. It's the whole package, Face, Body, Service, Attitude, Room, Sloppy seconds, classy and sophistication, charm, polished and manicured.

Optics is just 51%, the majority that men consider, but pointless debate if she's a Tranny like Bruce Jenner with a Dick, or some Lady Boy from Thailand that keeps.

You up at night wondering if it was Optics or a Real Woman.

Personally, I get turned on by the idea of fucking a girl who other guys want or have to fuck. It's seriously part of the appeal and if I wanted to fuck a 4-5 I'the get a girlfriend LOL. Consider that what we find hot is not so much a quality of the girl itself, the intrinsic quality of her body and face but her desirability is something we learn from watching other dudes. Case in point, 15 years ago almost all Club Model types had natural breasts, today almost none do. Same thing with big asses which were considered gross when I was coming up. So when The Cane says most people agree with his idea of hotness, we can conclude that big enhanced tits are hot now, but weren't in the past.

And I resemble the remark about sadly jerking off at home LOL. In my beginning monger days thinking "every time I jerk off I'm saving hundreds of dollars!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2614226]Now he considers that he has taste and does not want to fuck a woman who has been with hundreds (maybe more) of men and avoids prostitutes even if they are 7 and above. However, he does not have the ability to woo 7's and above so he wiles away the time masturbating alone at home. What about the guy who will go with the 5 or 6 in his eyes when that is available rather than sadly masturbating alone at home but will happily go with a 9 or 10 when he has the opportunity.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2614248]You're not talking apples to apples and oranges to oranges. You brought in all kinds of other factors that involve things other than optics alone, which is what this is about. Not, for example, how somebody feels about fucking a woman that lots of other guys are fucking. How does she look is the operative inquiry. That's the point. So, I said it before, and I'll say it again. When The Cane says that a woman is attractive, more people than not tend to agree (both men and women by the way). That's having "optics taste". And I am quite sure about that. Now, [B]that's[/B] keeping it straightforward and to the point without muddying the waters with a bunch of extraneous factors that nobody was talking about, or is concerned with to be frank. The matter is simply does this woman have physical characteristics that make her hot or not? That's what's at the crux of this eternal debate.[/QUOTE]You seemed to have completely missed my point. Talking about taste in the mongering world is delusional. A street dweller who has found $10,000 and cleaned himself up can fuck the same 8 or 9 you are fucking. So what does having taste matter in that circumstance? Its meaningless. Real taste separates the connoisseur from the ignoramus.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2614338]Talking about taste in the mongering world is delusional.[/QUOTE]If you say so then. [B]Hahahaha[/B].

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2614333]So when The Cane says most people agree with his idea of hotness, we can conclude that big enhanced tits are hot now, but weren't in the past.[/QUOTE]No real idea what in the world you're talking about, or how you reach such a conclusion. It's like you're trying to tell me what I like or something! For your information, I don't mind a tit job as long as it's proportional and well-done (no scarring), and not too big, but dude I happen to prefer them all natural. Ahem!

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2614258]This is very similar to having a good taste in clothing / style. Some people have it, some people don't, no matter if they can afford expensive stuff or not. A good example of a bad taste would be a guy wearing all Gucci / D&G / etc that looks like a clown.[/QUOTE]There used to be a monger in this thread who would get extremely annoyed when challenged about the optics of the clinica girls (he would regularly claim they looked as good as Scandallo girls). One time, he got angry and proclaimed that he was a long time Sao Paulo resident, and had been mongering in Sampa for years. My response was that fact alone didn't necessarily translate into him having taste with respect to female optics LOL. Again. Some men have it. And some men don't (but often think that they do hahaha). Or, they will say things like it's impossible to intelligently talk about "having taste" with regard to the mongering hobby. I beg to differ.

Finally, I was able to get to Scandallo yesterday evening (Tuesday). I'm happy to report that it is definitely the best P4 P venue that I have been to. As I mentioned before, I'm comparing against HK in Tijuana, La Isla in Medellin, and gogo bars in Bangkok / Pattaya.

The first thing that strikes you about Scandallo is that It's VERY big. Not just talking about physical size, but the number of girls on a slow Tuesday night national holiday was at least 80-100. The girls are very varied. There is every type there, from tall to short, skinny to thicc, white to. Slightly less white haha (there were only a couple dark skinned women that I saw), highly enhanced to natural, dressed slutty or elegant. And maybe best of all*they are for the most part free of the curse that haunts most other clubs like this. The dreaded "space filler", the girls that you wouldn't have sex with for free.

A combination of these factors leads to my bottom line assessment: this establishment is the best place to find someone P4 P that I would consider a 8+, which is what I consider my minimum standard for going upstairs with a girl. As I mentioned before my tastes tend towards thin, natural, white, pretty faced women.

I offered this assessment of other clubs before, which I'll mostly replicate here:

Tijuana: 50% <= 6, 35% 7, 10% 8, 5% 9+.

La Isla: 30% <= 6, 60% 7, 5% 8, 5% 9+.

Gogos: 70% <= 6, 25% 7, 5% 8+.

At Scandallo I would rate it as:

30% <= 6, 30% 7, 30% 8, 10% 9+.

Let those numbers sink in for a bit. Scandallo had 2. 66 x higher concentration of 8+ women than in HK, 4 x La Isla, and 8 x a Thai gogo bar. You are truly spoiled for choice at a place like Scandallo. At one point, I noticed myself thinking, "Nah she's not that hot" but realized that in any other place I would be dying to call her over for a drink (if she was not already being pursued by 10 other clients at the same time).

I won't go into too much detail about the setting of Scandallo, because there have been many recent reports, and also I'm still figuring it out haha. The entrance elevator leads to the main floor that contains a restaurant, a patio, and the main club floor. I grabbed a drink first at the restaurant, which is where I met my first Scandallo girl, who I would put at a 6/7. We chatted a bit, and she gave me a bit of a lay of the land. Had a chance to work on my very rudimentary Portuguese. 3 weeks of Pimsleur, good Spanish, and occasional use of Google Translate proved to be perfectly adequate to converse with the girls.

I left the first girl and headed over to the main club area. Thus beings the next phase of any P4 P night out, and arguably more enjoyable than the actual sex itself. Getting drunk while ogling and chatting with all the hot girls passing by.

Another thing I liked about Scandallo was that the nightclub venue seemed to attract less hardened pros. While there were stripper-looking girls, unlike in an actual strip club like HK you can get girls that at least appear to not be complete pros. This might just be a total illusion, but hey the illusion is definitely worth something.

I talked with a girl I thought was a 10 with a Barbie body, but when I called her over she was a bit more ghetto than I imagined, and had tons of makeup on. I tossed her back into the sea. Another thing that I really like is the lack of pressure from the girls. Only one of the 3 girls I talked with asked for a drink. The drinks are real drinks, not just make believe fichas, and the girls didn't just drink and bolt but rather would stay with you.

Despite my white girl fetish, I ended up going with a morena clara from Bahia. Really striking, angular, pretty face. She was wearing a coat that hid her body, and once it came it became clear that she didn't*have the greatest body. She was also hiding*a tattoo on her hip (I'm not a fan of big tatoos). I'd put her at an 8 face that comes down to 7 with the body. But she was very nice, and we had a great chat for 30+ minutes before heading upstairs. She opened at 1000, I countered with 600, and she accepted 700. When I asked about DFK and CIM she giggled and quickly agreed. The service in the room was among the best performances I've had with a provider. No rushing, no lying about services rendered, just enjoyable sex. The room itself is also by far the nicest I've been to in P4 P settings.

All in all, I ended up spending about 1500 BRL for the night, including 230 for the room, 700 for the lady, and 330 for drinks, and 200 for entry (400 total entry of which 200 is consumable). This comes out to about $270. Some might find this to be an amount well beyond what they would be comfortable paying,*especially in a developing country like Brazil. But honestly, I've spent more money on P4 P before, and have come away with far less. All things considered, $270 for a night out at a lux nightclub and bedding a hot girl and getting good service is a goddam bargain.

In short, Scandallo is clearly the best P4 P establishment that I've been to. I haven't experienced FKKs before but I have a hard time believing that it would be better than this. If you're out there, do yourself a favor and head down here, take advantage of the incredible exchange rate, and partake in this experience. It's not to be missed.

All of this was during a relatively slow Tuesday night, and I can't wait to head back on Wednesday.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2614368]In short, Scandallo is clearly the best P4 P establishment that I've been to. I haven't experienced FKKs before but I have a hard time believing that it would be better than this. If you're out there, do yourself a favor and head down here, take advantage of the incredible exchange rate, and partake in this experience. It's not to be missed.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your report, and I'm glad you liked Scandallo. A comparison to the German FKKs isn't exactly apples to apples because the FKKs are sauna clubs. An apples to apples comparison would be with the termas of Rio. That said, if I had to choose just one place to spend a mongering evening out, for me it would have to be at Scandallo. That's because I love the Brasilieras, and Scandallo is a wonderful place to find them! But when Quatro por Quatro was hitting on all cylinders way back when, I don't know man. Would be a hard decision to make! But lucky, there is no real need to choose. We can do it all. I want it all!

I am puzzled by your girl selection at Scandalo. You estimated there were 80-100 girls, of which by your standards 24-30 were 8's and 8-10 were 9+. Yet you only spoke to 3 girls; a 6-7, an 8, and a 10, and went with the 8 who was hiding her body (a 6-7 rating as you found out in the room) with a coat. Why would you go with a girl whose body you couldn't even see instead of finding another 8 whose body you could evaluate? Also, since money did not seem to be an issue with you, and they all charge more or less about 700-800 real, why would you even talk to an 8 instead of seeking out the 9+s to talk to first? I would think that would be the order in which to start the girl selection. Were all the 9+s more ghetto than you like with too much makeup so you didn't bother after the first one? Were they not your type for some other reason? Or were they all occupied with other clients or were not interested in talking to you?

P.S. If you like some alcohol before making a selection, most clinicas provide beer for free or at most 10 real, and some provide liquor at 1/3 or less of the cost in Scandalo.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2614418]I am puzzled by your girl selection at Scandalo. You estimated there were 80-100 girls, of which by your standards 24-30 were 8's and 8-10 were 9+. Yet you only spoke to 3 girls; a 6-7, an 8, and a 10, and went with the 8 who was hiding her body (a 6-7 rating as you found out in the room) with a coat. Why would you go with a girl whose body you couldn't even see instead of finding another 8 whose body you could evaluate? Also, since money did not seem to be an issue with you, and they all charge more or less about 700-800 real, why would you even talk to an 8 instead of seeking out the 9+s to talk to first? I would think that would be the order in which to start the girl selection. Were all the 9+s more ghetto than you like with too much makeup so you didn't bother after the first one? Were they not your type for some other reason? Or were they all occupied with other clients or were not interested in talking to you?

P.S. If you like some alcohol before making a selection, most clinicas provide beer for free or at most 10 real, and some provide liquor at 1/3 or less of the cost in Scandalo.[/QUOTE]I have exact same question. He estimated the number of girls to be around 100 on a slow night. If 10% are 9+, that means around 10 girls are 9's and 10's. Still a solid number. Why bother talking to 8's?

Few recent reports are pretty much the same. Guys are all impressed with the quality and selection, but for some reason don't pick the hottest women in house and settle on 8's and 7's, why is that?

[QUOTE=Rextor;2614368] At Scandallo I would rate it as: 30% <= 6, 30% 7, 30% 8, 10% 9+.

Another thing I liked about Scandallo was that the nightclub venue seemed to attract less hardened pros. While there were stripper-looking girls, unlike in an actual strip club like HK you can get girls that at least appear to not be complete pros. This might just be a total illusion, but hey the illusion is definitely worth something.

Despite my white girl fetish, I ended up going with a morena clara from Bahia. Really striking, angular, pretty face. She was wearing a coat that hid her body, and once it came it became clear that she didn't*have the greatest body. She was also hiding*a tattoo on her hip (I'm not a fan of big tatoos). I'd put her at an 8 face that comes down to 7 with the body. But she was very nice, and we had a great chat for 30+ minutes before heading upstairs. She opened at 1000, I countered with 600, and she accepted 700. When I asked about DFK and CIM she giggled and quickly agreed. The service in the room was among the best performances I've had with a provider.[/QUOTE]One thing I don't see in many reports is the ratio of hot girls to men. Of that 30% of 8's and 10% of 9's how many were actually available to talk to or were willing to talk? In my recent trip I noticed most hot girls are hoarded by locals, and don't get released often, so this idea of having the best available pussy is a little bit of an illusion. A lot of those girls gravitate towards the club tables with bottle services, or they spend a lot of time in sessions.

In my recent experience visiting 4 times within 1 week the best times are a little earlier around 9 pm when the shifts end and new ones begin, or around 2 am or after. Again, competition can be heavy, we visitors are not the only ones with sufficient funds to session, keep that in mind.

As far as pre-screening the girl, I can see you picked the girl thinking she was a solid 8, but didn't get to confirm her looks too well until the clothes came off. I remember my first time I had this girl that was turning me on and grabbing my cock, she was getting me close to agreeing to session when I realized a lot of girls have different tricks to hide their flaws there, so I asked her to get up and turn around for me, I told her plainly that I wanted to see her ass first because I like girls with big ass, we were in the outside patio and I was able to see a small gut, which obviously turned me off. Needless to say I sent her away, and funny thing is she asked me to buy her a salad LOL. I declined, she wasn't going to start her diet on me.

I enjoy the place, and plan on visiting again in my next trip, but I think that the idea that 100's of the hottest girls in the world are just there for you to grab and go is a little over the top, at least currently, I'm not sure if that's really how things were prior to COVID.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2614427]I have exact same question. [/QUOTE]My reaction is the same but I refrained from asking right away. My post is not to question OP. Maybe he was the catch, instead of the girl. It is easier for observer to think logically but we don't always follow logic in the heat of the moment.

Act, don't just chat. DFK is free and you should make out in the club to confirm before going to the room.

BTW, we passed on the hottest girl at Scandallo because she has fucked 1000 men all over the world and she does not do BBBJ. LOL.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2614349]There used to be a monger in this thread who would get extremely annoyed when challenged about the optics of the clinica girls (he would regularly claim they looked as good as Scandallo girls). One time, he got angry and proclaimed that he was a long time Sao Paulo resident, and had been mongering in Sampa for years. My response was that fact alone didn't necessarily translate into him having taste with respect to female optics LOL. Again. Some men have it. And some men don't (but often think that they do hahaha). Or, they will say things like it's impossible to intelligently talk about "having taste" with regard to the mongering hobby. I beg to differ.[/QUOTE]Yes, some of the guys get very defensive of the clinica girls. Our deceased friend AltoBomGosto would also get a little annoyed. He was making a business or a sideline out of giving foreigners tours of the clinicas. These guys can provide valuable services to newbies.

I think hunting in the clinicas can make for a very fun and interesting afternoon. However, I remember one afternoon I stopped by two Moema clinicas and was disappointed. I walked over to Shopping Ibirapuera for some food and Whatsapp'd a spectacular escort that I knew. I'm not the kind of guy who blows loads all day so I found a special woman.

The funny thing is the mod at the time and ABG were accusing me of being a shill for the escort. I think the shilling for the clinicas has quieted down and there has been civil, sensible discussions about SP clinicas.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2614427]Few recent reports are pretty much the same. Guys are all impressed with the quality and selection, but for some reason don't pick the hottest women in house and settle on 8's and 7's, why is that?[/QUOTE]It's a good question. Many times I find the top girls at a club are always very busy with other guys. It can be hard for reserved guys to chase them down. They also seem to have more confidence as they move through a club. The confidence isn't intimidating to me, but their asking price might be. Late at night, these top girls can be more accessible and in the mood to negotiate. Of course, when you wind up with a top girl in the late hours you have to block out that she's likely already had an earlier session.

Scoring stats aside, my big takeaway from Rextor is that he found Scandallo far superior to clubs in Tijuana, Medellin and Thailand.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2614418]I am puzzled by your girl selection at Scandalo. You estimated there were 80-100 girls, of which by your standards 24-30 were 8's and 8-10 were 9+. Yet you only spoke to 3 girls; a 6-7, an 8, and a 10, and went with the 8 who was hiding her body (a 6-7 rating as you found out in the room) with a coat. Why would you go with a girl whose body you couldn't even see instead of finding another 8 whose body you could evaluate? Also, since money did not seem to be an issue with you, and they all charge more or less about 700-800 real, why would you even talk to an 8 instead of seeking out the 9+s to talk to first? I would think that would be the order in which to start the girl selection. Were all the 9+s more ghetto than you like with too much makeup so you didn't bother after the first one? Were they not your type for some other reason? Or were they all occupied with other clients or were not interested in talking to you?

P.S. If you like some alcohol before making a selection, most clinicas provide beer for free or at most 10 real, and some provide liquor at 1/3 or less of the cost in Scandalo.[/QUOTE]Yeah this is a good, thought-provoking question. Why don't I just start with the hottest girl in the club and work downwards until I find someone I like?

1) A lot of this comes down to my modus operandi at these clubs which is generally to pick a spot and sit down for a drink. It's great for viewing and relaxing and not having to be on your feet all night. The downside is that it's quite passive, as I rely on girls coming past me in close proximity to make eye contact and rope in. Going in a group might help, so I can go around and chat with other girls without fear of losing my table. I'm open to hear about how other people approach this. Do you walk around until you find someone, and then go grab a nook to settle down? That didn't appear to be what most others were doing either but I could be wrong.

2) Obviously the hottest girls are more likely to be occupied. Just because there are hot women in the club doesn't mean they're always free all the time.

3) I personally have a bad habit of trying to "over-optimize" - just because there's a hot girl here doesn't mean an even hotter girl won't show up, so better wait for that one right?. I will admit this is not helping me out, and I've probably lost good connections because of it. In other clubs I know that there's pretty much only 3 or 4 available 8+s and I need to pounce, but in Scandallo it's easy to just wait around and before you know it it's 2 am and everyone's paired up already.

4) As mentioned, I thought I was talking to someone hot, but maybe my small head took over and I didn't think to look under her coat. The "10" wasn't really a 10 under closer inspection.

5) Sometimes, despite how someone looks, you just get a not great vibe from them. There's no real explanation on this one.

All this means that I end up not talking to a whole lot of girls in a given night. Maybe it's worth changing it the approach a bit to see if I get better results.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2614431]I remember my first time I had this girl that was turning me on and grabbing my cock, she was getting me close to agreeing to session when I realized a lot of girls have different tricks to hide their flaws there, so I asked her to get up and turn around for me, I told her plainly that I wanted to see her ass first because I like girls with big ass, we were in the outside patio and I was able to see a small gut, which obviously turned me off. Needless to say I sent her away, and funny thing is she asked me to buy her a salad LOL. I declined, she wasn't going to start her diet on me.[/QUOTE]LOL this is too funny! Got a literal LOL out of me hahaha!

It looks like my 1-10 rating has confused some folks, so let me put it this way- in most other clubs like HK or La Isla, I am looking past the girls that I don't want anything to do with to find the handful of girls I would be happy with (these would be the 8's). Of course I am always also shooting for the girls I really want (9+) but it always feels like a long-shot. There's so much competition and the stars need to align for it to happen.

In Scandallo, landing a 9+ doesn't feel like a long shot at all. Yeah I haven't landed a 9+ yet in my two nights there, so there's definitely some luck / skill involved, but I will stick by my earlier assessment that I think there is no better venue to find really hot women (by my taste). And the best part is that there is no shortage of 8's, so even if things don't pan out perfectly with the 9's, the floor is so high. In fact, this is exactly what ended up happening yesterday!

Wednesday was even more impressive than Tuesday. There were more clients, girls, and energy, and it's said that Thursday should be even wilder. That's saying something. I started at 10 pm with a drink in the restaurant, and then moved to the club. As I talked about earlier, my style of mongering is relatively solitary and somewhat passive, so I don't end up talking to a whole bunch of people, and I rely on luck. The right girl passing by at the right time. Fortunately, a girl exactly my type came by. Very pretty, bubbly, all-natural, girl-next-door college babe. A branca from Minas Gerais, an easy 9 by my standards. The chemistry was great and we were chatting for quite a while.

I ended up not going up with her. She was ok with my price point of 700, but she didn't make out with me in the club, more just kisses on the cheek. I know that this is a bad omen for things in the bedroom, but looking back at it, I actually regret not taking her. There's a possibility that she may have opened up in private away from prying eyes. She claimed to be a bit shy and of course she could just be upselling the innocent girl-next-door persona, but I always regret not doing something more than doing something and having it go poorly. People might disagree with this, but I should've taken the shot even if it was a bit of a risk. Worst case scenario, it's just a "optifuck" but hey I've had worse.

But this story does have a happy ending. I put in quite a bit of time into the other girl, so at this point I was ready to find someone quickly and do the deed before leaving. At around 2 am I met another girl that was my type (natural, thin, college-girl, chill, not quite as pretty as the first one but very nice nevertheless, overall an 8). Despite only talking for 10 minutes or so, the vibes felt pretty good and I was starting to get weary. So we settled on 700 to go back to the room.

And you know what? The sex was really great. Who knows for sure, but she seemed into it, and was very sweet. Considering that I was really just looking to get my rocks off quickly, this full GFE was an awesome consolation prize after striking out earlier.

This just illustrates what's so unique about Scandallo. It inverts the scarcity vs abundance mindset. Real life is mostly lived in scarcity, where we're biting and scratching and competing for everything, including women. All P4 P establishments claim to offer an alternative. You have easy access to women (as long as you have the money) but the reality doesn't always match the claim. There are still often too few hot women and too many guys competing for their time. But Scandallo comes as close as I've seen to achieving that goal, of creating a place where fate is in your hands, and you can go home with a girl you're really excited about. I don't mean to be hyperbolic, because it could always be better of course (more hot girls at lower prices, duh). No place will ever be perfect, but for regular folks like us, at this moment in time, this is probably as close as it gets.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2614572]Wednesday was even more impressive than Tuesday. There were more clients, girls, and energy, and it's said that Thursday should be even wilder. That's saying something. I started at 10 pm with a drink in the restaurant, and then moved to the club. As I talked about earlier, my style of mongering is relatively solitary and somewhat passive, so I don't end up talking to a whole bunch of people, and I rely on luck. The right girl passing by at the right time. Fortunately, a girl exactly my type came by. Very pretty, bubbly, all-natural, girl-next-door college babe. A branca from Minas Gerais, an easy 9 by my standards. The chemistry was great and we were chatting for quite a while.

I ended up not going up with her. She was ok with my price point of 700, but she didn't make out with me in the club, more just kisses on the cheek. I know that this is a bad omen for things in the bedroom, but looking back at it, I actually regret not taking her. There's a possibility that she may have opened up in private away from prying eyes. She claimed to be a bit shy and of course she could just be upselling the innocent girl-next-door persona, but I always regret not doing something more than doing something and having it go poorly. People might disagree with this, but I should've taken the shot even if it was a bit of a risk.[/QUOTE]You're blowing it kid! You're blowing it! You should have gone with her! The thing you have to understand about Scandallo is that the girls in there aren't all going to be all tongue deep in your mouth before going to the room like at a terma, or even like at some of the other clubs. Many will be more reserved. Until you get them in the room. And the next thing you know, you're deep up inside of her pink butt hole! The other thing is don't be so passive, even if that just means just getting up and walking around. I always eventually end up in the nightclub as it gets later, but before then I'm always walking around to see who I'm going to find. Or, who is going to find me!

First of all Rextor thanks for the report out. I think you are spot on in your Scandallo assessment. I see it almost exactly the same way. In a Boate like Casarao you absolutely have to make the rounds or you will end up holding your own dick. Because you got to dig deep to find the gems and that requires hustling around the place.

No such thing at Scandalo cuz its heavy with hotties. I freely admit that several of my Scandallo girls found me rather than vice versa. Guys who have done FKK are wary of this because the girls that approach are less desirable or low performance. I did have a BomBoa girl who approached and was a full on 9 give me a CBJ but other than that the "girls that approach" concern is less of a concern at Scandallo. I've had some super girls (7's and 8's) who were pretty forward and made the first move.

I wouldn't use DFK as a test at Scandallo. That is not standard on the floor. I've def kissed or LFK on the floor and that is just part of dating to a Brasileira. But don't be put off if she doesn't DFK on the floor. This does NOT correlate with in room performance.

Finally a nice hybrid of "you come to me" but with a lot of variety here is what I do. Go up towards the stage. On the right there is a little raised area with some benches and such. Those are usually occupied. But u can stand on the raised area. For some reason most girls circulate in a loop that goes right past there. So can preview almost all the merchandise from that one spot.

Have fun! And fuck some solid 8's for me! Oh and don’t forget to get her number and do WhatsApp follow up. All my girls have sent me pictures after — including about 20 model quality shots from Andressa the 9.5. And of course flying Thifany to London started with a Boate snd WhatsApp só do NOT forget to get their numbers.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2614618]...For some reason most girls circulate in a loop that goes right past there. ...[/QUOTE]The club area may have been reconfigured. I went to that corner a few times. It is like a dead end, not an area people will circulate.

I am interested in the girl in the photo. She is the most expensive girl I found and wants 50% deposit. How many like her I can find in Scandallo on a given night? Skin color does not matter.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2614707]I am interested in the girl in the photo. She is the most expensive girl I found and wants 50% deposit. How many like her I can find in Scandallo on a given night? Skin color does not matter.[/QUOTE]She looks pissed off! I'm planning my first trip to SP and hope I can find them a little younger and friendlier than she looks. She does have nice Farrah Faucett hair though LOL.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2614713]She looks pissed off! I'm planning my first trip to SP and hope I can find them a little younger and friendlier than she looks. She does have nice Farrah Faucett hair though LOL.[/QUOTE]All other pictures are with heavy filters so I don't pick them. She is 23

[QUOTE=TheCane;2614601]You're blowing it kid! You're blowing it! You should have gone with her! The thing you have to understand about Scandallo is that the girls in there aren't all going to be all tongue deep in your mouth before going to the room like at a terma, or even like at some of the other clubs. Many will be more reserved. Until you get them in the room. And the next thing you know, you're deep up inside of her pink butt hole! The other thing is don't be so passive, even if that just means just getting up and walking around. I always eventually end up in the nightclub as it gets later, but before then I'm always walking around to see who I'm going to find. Or, who is going to find me![/QUOTE]I was scared to ask this before because I was told that maybe there's something wrong with me previously in Thailand.

When I went to Scandallo, girls were very touchy, but didn't really kiss. One half Japanese chick and I had really good chemistry. She told me that Scandallo manager tells the girls they can't kiss the customers. This is BS, right? It seems every other review of Scandallo is a round of tongue wrestling before declining the session or going upstairs.

This was completely different from my experience at Connection, where the girls seemed eager to make out, trying to entice me to take them upstairs. Scandallo girls, on the other hand, seemed much more entitled, like I owed them something.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2614722]I was scared to ask this before because I was told that maybe there's something wrong with me previously in Thailand.

When I went to Scandallo, girls were very touchy, but didn't really kiss. One half Japanese chick and I had really good chemistry. She told me that Scandallo manager tells the girls they can't kiss the customers. This is BS, right? It seems every other review of Scandallo is a round of tongue wrestling before declining the session or going upstairs.

This was completely different from my experience at Connection, where the girls seemed eager to make out, trying to entice me to take them upstairs. Scandallo girls, on the other hand, seemed much more entitled, like I owed them something.[/QUOTE]I don't know what the rules are. I just observed the locals did it and figured I could do it too. LOL. I wrote it in my report. Two girls got a guy hard and took turn fondling his dick right next to me. Another pair were using the sofa under the stair as a bed for at least one hour. Several girls exposed their breasts to me to prove they are all natural. One girl stood up to show me her butt on the sofa right in front of the elevator. Maybe DFK is too much but in my mind kissing hasn't been an issue.

I am probably a more reserved monger so I move slowly but I don't play around once I approach a girl. I also never feel I have to have a session or have certain girl. I don't mind leaving empty handed either. I met a new girl the other day. She was very inexperienced. She could not do a BJ long enough without taking a break and I did not finish. She asked if was mad. I told her no, I was fine but maybe a little disappointed.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2614722]I was scared to ask this before because I was told that maybe there's something wrong with me previously in Thailand.

When I went to Scandallo, girls were very touchy, but didn't really kiss. One half Japanese chick and I had really good chemistry. She told me that Scandallo manager tells the girls they can't kiss the customers. This is BS, right? It seems every other review of Scandallo is a round of tongue wrestling before declining the session or going upstairs.

This was completely different from my experience at Connection, where the girls seemed eager to make out, trying to entice me to take them upstairs. Scandallo girls, on the other hand, seemed much more entitled, like I owed them something.[/QUOTE]The fact of the matter is that I don't know what management may have told the girls at Scandallo around this. But I do know that unlike the termas where public "tongue wrestling" is par for the course, I have never engaged in such publicly at Scandallo (also not a barometer that I use to predict performance). But not only that, I've actually never seen anybody else doing that either. Not saying it doesn't happen. I just haven't seen it myself. And you're right about Connection. It's a very different environment, as I wrote in the report I did on that club. The girls there behave more "loosely". Sitting on laps and grinding. Lifting their skirts up to expose their little panties. Grabbing on the dick and stuff. I found the display of that kind of "affection" to be far more common at Connection, and I liked it! Both Scandallo and Connection work for me! I like to go to different establishments for different kinds of experiences, but always with pretty girls.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2614707]I am interested in the girl in the photo. She is the most expensive girl I found and wants 50% deposit. How many like her I can find in Scandallo on a given night? Skin color does not matter.[/QUOTE]Don't forget to also check out Bomboa, Cafe Photo, Connection, and Lotus Club. Between them all (plus a clinica here and there) you're bound to find what you're looking for. You have to get around town man. You can't just drop anchor in one place expecting the magic to happen every single time. Because you just never know where that diamond is going to be found. I found Julia at Cafe Photo (and enjoyed her A-hole too). I don't recall the price, but I think it was at 600 reals for the hour, which at that time was a fair rate for services rendered (enthusiastic kissing, BBBJ, 69, straight sex, anal sex). And no, no DFK in the club before going to the room LOL! She was quite the lady, that is, until we got to the room and the tigress came out! She whipped her tits out and shoved them in my mouth straight away! We hit the showers. That is, she hit the showers. You see, when I was about to go, she pounced on me on the bed and went to work! She didn't even let me take a shower LOL! The lesson in all of this? Don't think that a Brasiliera isn't going to rock your world and fuck your brains out just because she happens to seem "reserved" in the boate. Remember, a lot of these girls working in places like a Scandallo or Cafe Photo aren't hardened tutes who will let you finger some beaver in the club LOL! So, don't make the mistake of turning somebody down at a place like Scandallo or Cafe Photo because they don't DFK before going to the room (or allow other liberties). OK men? Now carry on!

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2614427]I have exact same question. He estimated the number of girls to be around 100 on a slow night. If 10% are 9+, that means around 10 girls are 9's and 10's. Still a solid number. Why bother talking to 8's?

Few recent reports are pretty much the same. Guys are all impressed with the quality and selection, but for some reason don't pick the hottest women in house and settle on 8's and 7's, why is that?[/QUOTE]For me service is very important. Fucking a 9 starfish without BBBJ and DATY does not do it for me. In FKKs I have bypassed many 9's because of absence of required service or just plain bad vibes. Give me a good performing 7 above a starfish 9 any day. I have had both and got greater enjoyment from the 7. Now a choice between a good service 7 and a good service 9...duh.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2614812]For me service is very important. Fucking a 9 starfish without BBBJ and DATY does not do it for me. In FKKs I have bypassed many 9's because of absence of required service or just plain bad vibes. Give me a good performing 7 above a starfish 9 any day. I have had both and got greater enjoyment from the 7. Now a choice between a good service 7 and a good service 9...duh.[/QUOTE]In this, we have 100% agreement. You would think this take on things would go without saying, but it doesn't. I have seen a number of guys on this site say that they would choose the 9 every single time because they actually put optics over service. Some guys have been that blunt about it! It takes all types to make the world go around (shrugs)!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2614799]Don't forget to also check out Bomboa, Cafe Photo, Connection, and Lotus Club. Between them all (plus a clinica here and there) you're bound to find what you're looking for…..I found Julia at Cafe Photo (and enjoyed her A-hole too). I don't recall the price, but I think it was at 600 reals for the hour, which at that time was a fair rate for services rendered (enthusiastic …. Remember, a lot of these girls working in places like a Scandallo or Cafe Photo aren't hardened tutes who will let you finger some beaver in the club LOL! So, don't make the mistake of turning somebody down at a place like Scandallo or Cafe Photo because they don't DFK before going to the room (or allow other liberties). OK men? Now carry on![/QUOTE]Damn. Mega hottie. I would Go with her any time. And yup service over optics for me. As long as the face is pretty. And she's not too Nordic! Yuk! LOL.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2614961]Damn. Mega hottie. I would Go with her any time. And yup service over optics for me. As long as the face is pretty. And she's not too Nordic! Yuk! LOL.[/QUOTE]I think you actually would be a pretty good wingman for me Steve. We like to go to a lot of the same kinds of places. We both like hot girls (who doesn't), but we don't go for exactly the same type. You're experienced and know how to handle yourself abroad. You're not cheap, and you don't need anybody holding your hand and telling you how it's done. As long as you don't get stumbling drunk (I had a guy do that on me once and more), it could be all good!

Just got back to the states. I had to catch a late night flight on Thursday evening, so I would miss the the busiest night of the week at Scandallo. I did go back though to check the late afternoon scene. I entered at about 6, the entrance was 200 BRL all consumable. Most of the main club area was quiet and closed off, but the two outdoor areas were open. There may have been 30-40 girls. Not too many of my liking, although I spotted some smoking hot girls just as I was leaving.

I picked up a blondie, upper 20's with an insane body, classic Brazilian. Toned but not hard abs and an incredible ass. Boob job which I'm not generally a fan of but whatever it was fine. CBJ which I'm partly to blame for for not specifying beforehand. But service other than that was fantastic, she was intelligent and pleasant to talk to and spend my final hours at SP with. 600 BRL for her, along with the customary 230 BRL for the room.

All in all it was fine, but Scandallo got a bit repetitive having hit it 3 times in three days. I don't regret checking out the daytime scene at Scandallo, it definitely has its place. But I am much more of a fan of the high energy nightclub scene. In retrospect, this was the perfect opportunity to go to the clinicas. Dropping 1000 BRL and a couple of long Uber rides on a somewhat hurried, pre-flight liaison seems a bit much. Next time I will stick to the oft repeated mantra: clinicas during the day, boates at night.

Random thoughts.

- Sao Paolo is a truly impressive city. The route from the Grand Hyatt to Scandallo leads through the Itaim Bibi and Lima Feira area, where I saw beautiful skyscrapers that would rival those in NYC. I didn't have a chance to do a whole lot because I was working during the day, maybe next time I'll explore more. I also realize now that I didn't spend a dime my whole trip on food. I just had the complimentary breakfast and club snacks for dinner at the Grand Hyatt. All that cash saved went straight to Scandallo LOL.

- Grand Hyatt is A+ if you're mostly just going to be working all day and don't mind a rather sterile surrounding. I hear the Jardim area is more happening.

- Weather in SP is kinda shitty, cloudy most days. It also felt a bit claustrophobic since it is such a huge flat megalopolis with little greenery. Kind of the opposite of Medellin or Rio (which I also have to visit).

- Departing through GRU was a breeze Thursday evening. As far as lounges go, GRU has some of the better ones. Hot food, comfortable seats, showers, not crowded etc.

- Portunol was entirely sufficient to communicate with the girls, who are patient and pleasant to speak with (it's literally their job).

I will be back in mid-November (coinciding again with a national holiday, November 15th's Republic Day. I really pick the best times to visit). Sorry I missed Socrates' offer to hang out, next time I'll try to break my solo mongering routines. Also special thanks to Steve and The Cane. I'm not exaggerating when I say that without reading your reports I would not have come to Brazil. There are so many barriers that would have discouraged me from coming (the language, the distance, the expense, etc) but your contributions, and those of the ISG community as a whole, have been beyond helpful.

Ate logo folks.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2614812]For me service is very important. Fucking a 9 starfish without BBBJ and DATY does not do it for me. In FKKs I have bypassed many 9's because of absence of required service or just plain bad vibes. Give me a good performing 7 above a starfish 9 any day. I have had both and got greater enjoyment from the 7. Now a choice between a good service 7 and a good service 9...duh.[/QUOTE]Who doesn't like good service? We all do. But why not have both? Why do we have to choose optics over service or service over optics? Many guys think that if she is a 9 she is a starfish in bed by default. Wrong! It all depends on chemistry between the two. I have had only 2 or 3 9's in my entire life, and never had a shitty service. In fact, all my 9's were amazing in bed. They were not cheap, but the experience was worth every penny. I have fucked plenty of 6's and 7's, and have had both good and bad experiences. One may think, well, if she is a 6 or a 7, she in less demand, and therefore, is more willing to please. This is not always the case. Now matter how a girl looks, if she is giving you bad vibes and not into you, you will never have an amazing sex. My point is, if you see a 9 to your liking, at Scandallo or anywhere else, go grab her, talk to her and see if she gives good vibes. Don't blindly assume she is a starfish just because she is hot.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2614799]... You have to get around town man. You can't just drop anchor in one place expecting the magic to happen every single time. Because you just never know where that diamond is going to be found...[/QUOTE]I think The Cane is describing almost everyone here but me. Although I don't report them, you can get clues from my posts where I have been. I have been to all the places you mentioned that are open. They are in decline in this period so nothing to really write about. I am waiting for Cafe Foto to open but I don't expect much. They said last week they would open this week but nothing yet.

I have been to Michelin star restaurant which I think many have been to, and I have been eating street food which I think very few have tried or even know where they are. It is nice to eat at a nice restaurants that would take 2 hours but not everyday. To me, they are no better than a home made street food that I can't get in a restaurant on a dark street where owner knows me.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2615027]...Also special thanks to Steve and The Cane[/QUOTE]Thank you from me too!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2614785]The fact of the matter is that I don't know ...[/QUOTE]As I read experience from others, I know I am also absorbing new knowledge and still learning. I think the motivation for most of us is to help members who have had bad experience. There are definitely things that one can do to improve the experience. I will just use a general term make out, whatever that means.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2615027]
Weather in SP is kinda shitty, cloudy most days. It also felt a bit claustrophobic since it is such a huge flat megalopolis with little greenery. Kind of the opposite of Medellin or Rio (which I also have to visit).[/QUOTE]Sao Paulo is also called "Terra da Garoa", Land of Drizzle.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2614799]I found Julia at Cafe Photo (and enjoyed her A-hole too). I don't recall the price, but I think it was at 600 reals for the hour, which at that time was a fair rate for services rendered (enthusiastic kissing, BBBJ, 69, straight sex, anal sex).[/QUOTE]I think even for you it's not always about looks, or there must be something wrong with my eyes. I think Julia is easily over 9, but Elisa Sanches is less than 6. She got a great review from you and has been praised in the local forums for her service, but it must have been her pink butthole between those thick cheeks that you saw and not her face. Sometimes we go for the experience and not just the looks.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2615112]I think even for you it's not always about looks, or there must be something wrong with my eyes. I think Julia is easily over 9, but Elisa Sanches is less than 6. She got a great review from you and has been praised in the local forums for her service, but it must have been her pink butthole between those thick cheeks that you saw and not her face. Sometimes we go for the experience and not just the looks.[/QUOTE]For me, Elisa is a 7 max. Her many tattoos take away from her overall look for me, but I do like her face. One thing that surprised me (I mentioned it in my reports) is that her natural skin color is milky white. Guess I was surprised because in her vids she always looks so tanned. Well, it's Brazil right? I have also written about how I have gone with Brasilieras thinking they are morenas, only to be shocked to discover they are brancas with unbelievably deep tans. The skin damage! I give her a 7 on my scale, and I will give her service a solid 10. The fact that she loves anal sex and allows her adoring fans to cornhole her rosey red arsehole at cut rate prices in the privacy, security, and comfort of their hotel rooms certainly doesn't hurt hahaha. Don't know what she's doing or charging now though (have contact info but haven't written to her in a long time). I wanted Elisa. I wanted her bad! She is the first and only porn star I have been with. And she's super cool. Treat her right, and she will return the favor. So a 6 for you, but a 7 for me good buddy!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2615057]I think The Cane is describing almost everyone here but me. Although I don't report them, you can get clues from my posts where I have been. I have been to all the places you mentioned that are open. They are in decline in this period so nothing to really write about. I am waiting for Cafe Foto to open but I don't expect much. They said last week they would open this week but nothing yet.[/QUOTE]We're still in a recovery period. Knowing what I know about Brazil, I have no doubt that things will eventually return to 100% normal. And when they do, lookout! Those hungry tutes are going to want [B]your[/B] money!

Thanks for the kind words guys. I am not lying when I say it makes me super happy to give back here. I near shed a tear when I saw I contributed to Rextors epic Brazil experience. Seriously. LOL. And Cane and all Id be happy to wing with any of you should our paths cross.

While it's completely a different experience, I suppose my latest expertise per force of Covid is the Seeking Arrangements scene in the USA. I have come to love this as much as anything. Which is completely shocking because I swore for 25 years that pussy prison USA sucks. Yet I will be seeing a 9.5 for our third weekend together of shacking up, eating and drinking way too much, and going to a sex club together (first time for that coming up) and learning that scene from her which I didn't know existed. So if anyone wants more on the Seeking Arrangements scene just HMU by message. And look for my sex club and Kayla report out in the Seeking Arrangements thread soon.

Rock on guys and fuck some hotties in my honor!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2614814]....It takes all types to make the world go around (shrugs)![/QUOTE]I say thank God for that. Sometimes in an establishment I would spot a hottie and head in her direction but then I observe a bloke walking towards her ahead of me and I think 'dang'. Then he chooses the 5 next to her and I think 'yay!! Thank you'.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2614707]I am interested in the girl in the photo. She is the most expensive girl I found and wants 50% deposit. How many like her I can find in Scandallo on a given night? Skin color does not matter.[/QUOTE]This? Easy, on good nights, out of 100, you can find at least 50 or more. On bad nights like the Saturday I had? Maybe 20 out of 100.

[QUOTE=Nuupter;2615219]This? Easy, on good nights, out of 100, you can find at least 50 or more. On bad nights like the Saturday I had? Maybe 20 out of 100.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. Here are her other pictures from escort ad web page. I am not sure is the same person. The second one is what I said with heavy filter that made me curious.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2615138].... And when they do, lookout! Those hungry tutes are going to want [B]your[/B] money![/QUOTE]That is what I think when they message me. They want to see [B]my[/B] money, not me. Haha.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2615266]Thanks for the reply. Here are her other pictures from escort ad web page. I am not sure is the same person. The second one is what I said with heavy filter that made me curious.[/QUOTE]Yeah idk if its fair to say that 50% of girls in Scandello look this good, especially since there's at least some photoshop involved.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2615281]Yeah idk if its fair to say that 50% of girls in Scandello look this good, especially since there's at least some photoshop involved.[/QUOTE]Are you saying that 50% of the girls in Scandallo look as good as the girl in the photos?

[QUOTE=Rextor;2615027]Just got back to the states. I had to catch a late night flight on Thursday evening, so I would miss the the busiest night of the week at Scandallo. I did go back though to check the late afternoon scene. I entered at about 6, the entrance was 200 BRL all consumable. Most of the main club area was quiet and closed off, but the two outdoor areas were open. There may have been 30-40 girls. Not too many of my liking, although I spotted some smoking hot girls just as I was leaving.

I picked up a blondie, upper 20's with an insane body, classic Brazilian. Toned but not hard abs and an incredible ass. Boob job which I'm not generally a fan of but whatever it was fine. CBJ which I'm partly to blame for for not specifying beforehand. But service other than that was fantastic, she was intelligent and pleasant to talk to and spend my final hours at SP with. 600 BRL for her, along with the customary 230 BRL for the room.

All in all it was fine, but Scandallo got a bit repetitive having hit it 3 times in three days. I don't regret checking out the daytime scene at Scandallo, it definitely has its place. But I am much more of a fan of the high energy nightclub scene. In retrospect, this was the perfect opportunity to go to the clinicas. Dropping 1000 BRL and a couple of long Uber rides on a somewhat hurried, pre-flight liaison seems a bit much. Next time I will stick to the oft repeated mantra: clinicas during the day, boates at night.

Random thoughts.

- Sao Paolo is a truly impressive city. The route from the Grand Hyatt to Scandallo leads through the Itaim Bibi and Lima Feira area, where I saw beautiful skyscrapers that would rival those in NYC. I didn't have a chance to do a whole lot because I was working during the day, maybe next time I'll explore more. I also realize now that I didn't spend a dime my whole trip on food. I just had the complimentary breakfast and club snacks for dinner at the Grand Hyatt. All that cash saved went straight to Scandallo LOL.

- Grand Hyatt is A+ if you're mostly just going to be working all day and don't mind a rather sterile surrounding. I hear the Jardim area is more happening.

- Weather in SP is kinda shitty, cloudy most days. It also felt a bit claustrophobic since it is such a huge flat megalopolis with little greenery. Kind of the opposite of Medellin or Rio (which I also have to visit).

- Departing through GRU was a breeze Thursday evening. As far as lounges go, GRU has some of the better ones. Hot food, comfortable seats, showers, not crowded etc.

- Portunol was entirely sufficient to communicate with the girls, who are patient and pleasant to speak with (it's literally their job).

I will be back in mid-November (coinciding again with a national holiday, November 15th's Republic Day. I really pick the best times to visit). Sorry I missed Socrates' offer to hang out, next time I'll try to break my solo mongering routines. Also special thanks to Steve and The Cane. I'm not exaggerating when I say that without reading your reports I would not have come to Brazil. There are so many barriers that would have discouraged me from coming (the language, the distance, the expense, etc) but your contributions, and those of the ISG community as a whole, have been beyond helpful.

Ate logo folks.[/QUOTE]SP was sunny the entire time I was there which was about a month.

It rained a little the day I got there, the first weekend of Carnival (Sunday) but after that nothing but sun, sun and more sun. Clear skies at night. If you want good weather go in our winter time (I live in LOS Angeles), ha I didn't notice a difference other than a little more humid.

In-fact the concrete jungle nature of Sao Paulo likely keeps the humidity down.

I agree about SP overall though and yes Jardim is the place to be, clean upscale, nightclubs. It's within walking distance from the Pinheiros district or use the subway.

Glad you enjoyed it, I am working on my return (finally).

Vagabundo is coming to sp on 22 -25 Oct to link up with Michaelsamuel. Plan is CLínicas, scandallo, and pornstars / porn.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2615828]Are you saying that 50% of the girls in Scandallo look as good as the girl in the photos?[/QUOTE]I would say less, maybe 20%

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2611835]The lady consulate at that time did not like me for some reason, and tried to discourage me from getting a visa at all cost, or so it seemed at the time. So, she asked me for so much documentation, including a letter from my boss authorizing me to travel to Brazil and later requiring the specific dates of travel.[/QUOTE]She -was- asking you for the actual Visa requirements at that time. And that you were not doing any 'work' there.

I went before 7 pm $200 are consumable. Ordered 2 beers they said it was $40 r each and some kind of special cocktail was $90 are be careful it added up very fast.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2615967]I would say less, maybe 20%[/QUOTE]Went on a Tuesday night and compared to that photo not even close to 50%. However it was still very good. You also have to approach them as they will not engage unless you talk first.

[QUOTE=HoyaDay;2616290]I went before 7 pm $200 are consumable. Ordered 2 beers they said it was $40 r each and some kind of special cocktail was $90 are be careful it added up very fast.[/QUOTE]I think that is about right. The cocktail probably is a type of Caipirinha. I think you probably have one with premium liquor in it so it is more expensive. Ask the bartender for a menu and pick from the menu next time if you are not sure. I am not an expert on drinks but I read the menu the first night I was there.

[QUOTE=HoyaDay;2616292]... You also have to approach them as they will not engage unless you talk first.[/QUOTE]

They will approach you, especially the ones that speak English. I was eating dinner and one just came up to me to introduce herself in front of everyone.

Sincerely thank you for contributing accurately on here. I have been very methodical on taking notes and advice from everybody on this forum. I am not as adept at typing so my reports will come in short updates and reply's. One of the best decisions I've made to come on a solo trip and I am through enjoying it.

[QUOTE=HoyaDay;2616290]I went before 7 pm $200 are consumable. Ordered 2 beers they said it was $40 r each and some kind of special cocktail was $90 are be careful it added up very fast.[/QUOTE]Yeah I double checked my report from 2019 they charge separately for the mixer and the alcohol. So my Red Bull Vodka was 50 R for the Redbull and 60 R for vodka. So about $25 at the time (now $20). Not for the faint of heart. Totally worth every penny. As has been widely attested here.

They do the same separately charged alcohol and mixer in the clubs in Moscow and yep. Adds up quickly.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2616313]Yeah I double checked my report from 2019 they charge separately for the mixer and the alcohol. So my Red Bull Vodka was 50 R for the Redbull and 60 R for vodka. So about $25 at the time (now $20). Not for the faint of heart. Totally worth every penny. As has been widely attested here.[/QUOTE]Checked the other reports and this is accurate. What an experience. Even flying solo this was a fun to attend. Met the right one and hit it off for the rest of the night.

[QUOTE=HoyaDay;2616290]I went before 7 pm $200 are consumable. Ordered 2 beers they said it was $40 r each and some kind of special cocktail was $90 are be careful it added up very fast.[/QUOTE]On my last trip 2020, all the girls wanted to drink gin tropical. I tasted it few times and it indeed contained quite a lot of alcohol. Nothing like the watery puta drinks in some other countries.

Just completed my first mongering trip to Brazil. Thought better pen my comments before I forget the details. My last monger trip was to Thailand January-February 2020 just before the covid shit hit the fan.

So I arrived the 2nd Saturday morning in September at the Renaissance on Alameda Santos. Took some rest shower etc and then headed to Scandalos around 9 pm. A couple of girls approached right away but I picked the 3rd one a pretty short petite with long auburn hair. Negotiated to 1300 plus the 250 barfine for per noite. Was hardly there for an hour (I know it was a rushed visit). Came back to the hotel had dinner at a nearby restaurant and to the room. She left the next day around noon (although she had said it was till 7 am). Very affectionate and decent sessions. Will ping her on my next visit.

The subsequent four weeks are a crazy blur. The next Monday I went to Bamboa and 2 girls came back with me. One stayed till 6 am and the other left at some point in the night. One of my best 3 somes with enthusiastic action. Paid one 800 and the other 1600.

I mostly rested during the day and then partied in the evenings / late night. Did not visit any clinicas (hopefully next time) and stayed the whole time in Sao Paulo. I picked up about 15 different girls (all BBBJ and most covered FS) over the entire stay mainly from Scandalo and Bamboa and one each from Connection and Bahamas with some repeats. A 21 year old from Bahamas was one of my best solo ever (and everything bare) but 2000 pernoite. The only negative experience were two friends from Scandalos, initially I was planning to pick one and then she convinced me to take her friend for a 3 some. 2000 pernoite. It did not go well as first they insisted on the money upfront and then the friend was condom everything etc. Basically killed the mood so told them to leave and took my losses.

And another thing, happened to meet fellow ISGer GiuseppeBonera in the hotel lobby bar and we went out to the clubs together a couple of times. I don't speak a lick of Portuguese so it was good to have a bilingual companion while going out.

So in conclusion it was excellent times except I made the mistake of taking one of the Bamboa girls with me to Cancun as I was leaving Brazil. It was supposed to be a 5 day fully paid vacation for her, of course. I had found her quite hot and had more than one session with her and she would come on to me quite strongly. So I succumbed for the trip. Day 3 on vacation she got drunk at one of the clubs, left me and disappeared the night with some guys. I came back to the hotel packed up, checked out and headed to the airport for my next destination (it was still dawn). Lesson learned. (BTW she had the return ticket so she managed to make her way back to Brazil in case anyone is wondering).

I plan another trip to Brazil in a month or so, need to check out Rio as well.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2615967]I would say less, maybe 20%[/QUOTE]Listen, that babe's really hot. At 20% I'd go berserk in that place not knowing who to choose.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2616493]Listen, that babe's really hot. At 20% I'd go berserk in that place not knowing who to choose.[/QUOTE]And that's exactly how I usually feel when I'm in Scandallo. It's so hard to choose!

[QUOTE=Nordico;2616358]On my last trip 2020, all the girls wanted to drink gin tropical. I tasted it few times and it indeed contained quite a lot of alcohol. Nothing like the watery puta drinks in some other countries.[/QUOTE]Concur. It also tastes pretty good but I am not an fan of mixing an energetic with alcohol.

I think I paid for 40 R for a vodka and 20 R for the tonic which I could use for 2. 5 drinks as a mixer.

[QUOTE=SexIsLove;2616397]Just completed my first mongering trip to Brazil. Thought better pen my comments before I forget the details. My last monger trip was to Thailand January-February 2020 just before the covid shit hit the fan. [/QUOTE]

Thanks for the report. Overall it looks like you enjoyed the fine "Brasileiras" in SP and had a pretty good time for a first timer. [i]Curious, what were your impressions/comparisons of Brasileiras vs. Thai women?[/i]

[QUOTE=SexIsLove;2616397] . . . So in conclusion it was excellent times except I made the mistake of taking one of the Bamboa girls with me to Cancun as I was leaving Brazil. It was supposed to be a 5 day fully paid vacation for her, of course. I had found her quite hot and had more than one session with her and she would come on to me quite strongly. So I succumbed for the trip. Day 3 on vacation she got drunk at one of the clubs, left me and disappeared the night with some guys. I came back to the hotel packed up, checked out and headed to the airport for my next destination (it was still dawn). Lesson learned. (BTW she had the return ticket so she managed to make her way back to Brazil in case anyone is wondering).

I plan another trip to Brazil in a month or so, need to check out Rio as well.[/QUOTE]

Ouch...Yikes! Yep, tough lesson to learn and I'd love to say I feel your pain, but not really (...kkkk!), well at least not to that degree.

However, I do know (and you may as well), one esteemed veteran and frequent patron and lover of Scandallo, who might just actually be able to sympathize and really feel your pain, on this [i]type of[/i] expensive excursion, if recent memory serves me well...nudge, nudge, wink, wink...kkkk

If anything, I can say, "nothing ventured, nothing gained." Good luck in Rio!

[QUOTE=SexIsLove;2616397]Just completed my first mongering trip to Brazil. Thought better pen my comments before I forget the details. My last monger trip was to Thailand January-February 2020 just before the covid shit hit the fan.

So I arrived the 2nd Saturday morning in September at the Renaissance on Alameda Santos. Took some rest shower etc and then headed to Scandalos around 9 pm. A couple of girls approached right away but I picked the 3rd one a pretty short petite with long auburn hair. Negotiated to 1300 plus the 250 barfine for per noite. Was hardly there for an hour (I know it was a rushed visit). Came back to the hotel had dinner at a nearby restaurant and to the room. She left the next day around noon (although she had said it was till 7 am). Very affectionate and decent sessions. Will ping her on my next visit.

The subsequent four weeks are a crazy blur. The next Monday I went to Bamboa and 2 girls came back with me. One stayed till 6 am and the other left at some point in the night. One of my best 3 somes with enthusiastic action. Paid one 800 and the other 1600.

I mostly rested during the day and then partied in the evenings / late night. Did not visit any clinicas (hopefully next time) and stayed the whole time in Sao Paulo. I picked up about 15 different girls (all BBBJ and most covered FS) over the entire stay mainly from Scandalo and Bamboa and one each from Connection and Bahamas with some repeats. A 21 year old from Bahamas was one of my best solo ever (and everything bare) but 2000 pernoite. The only negative experience were two friends from Scandalos, initially I was planning to pick one and then she convinced me to take her friend for a 3 some. 2000 pernoite. It did not go well as first they insisted on the money upfront and then the friend was condom everything etc. Basically killed the mood so told them to leave and took my losses..[/QUOTE]This is such a cool report, thanks for sharing. I hope my first trip to Brazil turns out similar when I have saved enough. If I may ask (other members of the forum please feel free to chime in) what percentage of the girls in Scandallo would you say were open to BBFS service?

Smaller, lounge like, $200 full consumable, $170 for the room 1 HR and you negotiate individually. This is what I liked. It was perfect and after you are done you can renegotiate with anybody else that gave you eyes. This was more to my liking although the one I had snatched me up first I went back to check out who is left. The surrounding area is high end residential neighborhood and they have a very friendly manager who explains everything up front. Really enjoyed it here too.

At yumioshiroo not the same as the pics that are uploaded. I should have checked the reviews but don't make the same mistake.

Was hoping for some advice please. 1. Plenty of Independents online, worth it or stick to the clubs? 2. Want a room / apartment that is easy to get girls into and in a good location, any suggestions? 3. Any other advice would also be appreciated. Thanks.

[QUOTE=PGTour;2617343]Was hoping for some advice please. 1. Plenty of Independents online, worth it or stick to the clubs? 2. Want a room / apartment that is easy to get girls into and in a good location, any suggestions? 3. Any other advice would also be appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]It depends on how long is your visit. If just a few days, the clinicas and boates will keep you plenty busy. If more than a week or two, definitely try them out. Some of my best sessions have been with online girls. I think there is a sweet spot of beautiful girls who go for 200-300 r per hour. I usually have them over to my apt for two hours for some very GFE sessions. Keep out previous posts. I and others have mentioned some girls and you can't find them on the local GP review website.

Fellas, I will have a long layover in Sao Paolo tomorrow (Saturday). Early afternoon to early evening. I would like to monger if possible. I'm assuming the clinicas are the way to go because of the time of day. I've done 100% of my mongering in Brazil in Rio so not familiar with Sao Paolo. I'm an an ass man that into phat natural asses with a preference for Morenas and Negras. I have to be that specific because typically when people are raving about women in this board they're talking about white women. Can anyone give me the best ones for my taste given we're talking about Saturday afternoon basically? Help is appreciated. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Mongmann;2617399]I'm an an ass man that into phat natural asses with a preference for Morenas and Negras. I have to be that specific because typically when people are raving about women in this board they're talking about white women.[/QUOTE]That's what I love about Brazil. Even an abundance of the white girls got phat butts! Yum, yum, yummy!

[QUOTE=Mongmann;2617399]Fellas, I will have a long layover in Sao Paolo tomorrow (Saturday). Early afternoon to early evening. I would like to monger if possible. I'm assuming the clinicas are the way to go because of the time of day. I've done 100% of my mongering in Brazil in Rio so not familiar with Sao Paolo. I'm an an ass man that into phat natural asses with a preference for Morenas and Negras. I have to be that specific because typically when people are raving about women in this board they're talking about white women. Can anyone give me the best ones for my taste given we're talking about Saturday afternoon basically? Help is appreciated. Thanks![/QUOTE]You should go to Tangara. There are usually 20 girls there. The highest number of big asses not fat brown / black girls I have seen. You are right. Not my style. It's 120 r for half hour which is US $23. You can hang there all day in the courtyard, many local guys do that and have a drink. The guys who run it are pretty cool and cam help you out.

R. Tangará, 200 - Vila Mariana, São Paulo. SP, 04019-030, Brazil.

[QUOTE=HoyaDay;2616678]Smaller, lounge like, $200 full consumable, $170 for the room 1 HR and you negotiate individually. This is what I liked. It was perfect and after you are done you can renegotiate with anybody else that gave you eyes. This was more to my liking although the one I had snatched me up first I went back to check out who is left. The surrounding area is high end residential neighborhood and they have a very friendly manager who explains everything up front. Really enjoyed it here too.[/QUOTE]If you want more ghetto local boate. I found some beautiful girls there the one time I went. Girl cost are fixed at 170 r per half hour including the room. I think can get a bottle of hard liquor for 200-300 r. Watch out for the expensive girl drinks. Local just share their bottles. The rooms are attached in hotel next door. Nobody speaks English though but I got by.

Brooklin Club.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/FLjMpraXUPgjt3BQ7[/URL]

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2617405]You should go to Tangara. .... The guys who run it are pretty cool and cam help you out....[/QUOTE]The most friendly clinica I have visited and it has the largest number of beer selection.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2617476]The most friendly clinica I have visited and it has the largest number of beer selection.[/QUOTE]Do they have a bar at Tangara now?

Hello folks,

In 2 weeks I would be traveling to SP and Brasilia (Spending most of my days in Brasilia).

I know this is only for reports in SP (TBH the Brasilia thread hasn't had any activity for a while) but I was wondering if anyone here has any info in Brasilia? Are there any clubs like Scandallo or Bomboa in Brasilia?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2617792]Do they have a bar at Tangara now?[/QUOTE]They don't have a bar like 57 house. Tangara has two full size coolers that are full of beers. It is in the basement semi outdoor area with several tables, chairs and BBQ. This is the another area people can hang out in addition to the courtyard.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2617476]The most friendly clinica I have visited and it has the largest number of beer selection.[/QUOTE]The lady who greeted me on my entries does everything but kiss me when I enter. The friendliest reception you would get of any establishment of its kind in the world.

Guys,

For sure a totally rookie question. I'm apologizing myself in advance: In Brazil and in this thread the dollar symbol $ means Brazilian Real always, right? No need for US Dollars in Brazil?

Guys,

I'm afraid it's a real rookie question. But I've never been in South America before. So I'm apologizing myself in advance. In Brazil and in this thread the dollar symbol $ always stands for Brazilian real, right? Or is there any use of USD in Brazil because the BRL is a weak currency?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2617910]They don't have a bar like 57 house. Tangara has two full size coolers that are full of beers. It is in the basement semi outdoor area with several tables, chairs and BBQ. This is the another area people can hang out in addition to the courtyard.[/QUOTE]Usually, when I'm there and I want beer (s) the guy from the little bar across the street will deliver.

I know Christmas time will be bad time to visit but even first week of December will be bad?

Hey y'all!

First time poster, long time lurker. I've been going just off sites so far because I'm not a nightlife kinda guy. Though definitely curious what a night of mongering with other mongers would be like.

I'm going to post again tomorrow with reports of 3 different online girls that went poorly for me. Today I'm going to post about the girl that's the reason I made this account.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/liberdade/morena-magrinha-prazer-garantido-para-voce-id-mak74[/URL]

Best sex of my life. Doesn't speak a lick of English, but luckily I speak Portuguese. Easily the best personality I've had in an escort, full of energy and girlfriend-like affection, as well as seemingly endless sex drive. We fucked for hours. Head with no condom, literally all the positions. No time counting at all, super professional. I've now met up with her over 6 times and she's basically becoming my sugar baby. She's 25,5 foot tall, and so fucking delicious. She's been a breath of fresh air, as girls I've been with in Brazil so far have either been fake pictures, or accurate pictures with horrible personalities, or good skill / personality but no chemistry and / or time watching.

I was definitely going to start going to prives and clinicas per the descriptions on here, but now I've been pretty much just relying on this girl.

I had the idea of coming to SP and fulfilling my long-time unscratched fetish of getting a petite 19 year old, but every ad I respond to for that turns out to be fake. So I'm over it. For now, anyways LOL.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;2618202]I know Christmas time will be bad time to visit but even first week of December will be bad?[/QUOTE]Brasil is the largest catholic country in the world. They take their holidays seriously. But at the same token, Natal (I. E. Christmas) is the period in Brasil where most empressarios (businessmen) turn a profit. That include GDP. Safe to assume normal operations until one week before Christmas.

[QUOTE=DataMonger;2618222]Hey y'all!

First time poster, long time lurker. I've been going just off sites so far because I'm not a nightlife kinda guy. Though definitely curious what a night of mongering with other mongers would be like.

I'm going to post again tomorrow with reports of 3 different online girls that went poorly for me. Today I'm going to post about the girl that's the reason I made this account.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/liberdade/morena-magrinha-prazer-garantido-para-voce-id-mak74[/URL]

Best sex of my life. Doesn't speak a lick of English, but luckily I speak Portuguese. Easily the best personality I've had in an escort, full of energy and girlfriend-like affection, as well as seemingly endless sex drive. We fucked for hours. Head with no condom, literally all the positions. No time counting at all, super professional. I've now met up with her over 6 times and she's basically becoming my sugar baby. She's 25,5 foot tall, and so fucking delicious. She's been a breath of fresh air, as girls I've been with in Brazil so far have either been fake pictures, or accurate pictures with horrible personalities, or good skill / personality but no chemistry and / or time watching..[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/jardins/ninfetinha-magrinha-para-homens-de-bom-gosto-id-xfbdh[/URL] - fake profile. Everything fake. She's actually a hot enough 27 ish year old with an ass that moves on its own. 0 personality though. Would never ever see her again.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/vila-mariana/gatinha-ninfeta-com-sexo-gostoso-massagem-e-oral-id-nmahk[/URL] - fake. It's a prive with a collection of under 30 girls that are like, 5/10 tops. Very shady, bold-faced lying through WhatsApp with no shame.

[URL]https://erosguia.com.br/38166.html[/URL] - same house / agency as above.

I created a google spreadsheet that I was going to work my way down slowly. But now it's just a dead google sheet of girls numbers that fit that description, and I don't feel much a need for them anymore. PM if you want a copy paste?

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;2618241]Brasil is the largest catholic country in the world. They take their holidays seriously. But at the same token, Natal (I. E. Christmas) is the period in Brasil where most empressarios (businessmen) turn a profit. That include GDP. Safe to assume normal operations until one week before Christmas.[/QUOTE]This is true of any country that celebrates Christmas. So all of Latin America. Starting around Dec 1 through about Dec 23, the girls are highly motivated to make money and thus it's a good time to visit. Plus the weather's better in Latin America than and. America or Europe in December!

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2618181]Usually, when I'm there and I want beer (s) the guy from the little bar across the street will deliver.[/QUOTE]Maybe this is new. I am not a drinker. My original post was trying to be funny. I don't even know if all the drinks in the coolers are beers.

[QUOTE=Michager;2618141]Guys,

For sure a totally rookie question. I'm apologizing myself in advance: In Brazil and in this thread the dollar symbol $ means Brazilian Real always, right? No need for US Dollars in Brazil?[/QUOTE]It's customary that this kind of forums quote prices in the local currency. No need of USD in Brazil other than the funds to buy brazilian reals.

[QUOTE=Brsvv;2617830]Hello folks,

In 2 weeks I would be traveling to SP and [b]Brasilia (Spending most of my days in Brasilia)[/b].

I know this is only for reports in SP (TBH the Brasilia thread hasn't had any activity for a while) but I was wondering if anyone here has any info in Brasilia? Are there any clubs like Scandallo or Bomboa in Brasilia?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Someday I would like to go to Brasilia-Distrito Federal so I hope to read your reports on Brasilia. The Brasilia tread is dead....... So if you have time and want to do some legwork.

[B]Just a suggestion[/B] if you contact providers via Twitter, Instagram, Facebook or the following by WhatsApp.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/brasilia[/URL]

[URL]https://www.vivalocal.com/acompanhante-erotico/distrito-federal[/URL]

[URL]https://www.private55.com/acompanhantes-brasilia-df[/URL]

Try asking about the local scene I would think they would know especially if you session with them.

[QUOTE=DataMonger;2618222]Hey y'all!

First time poster, long time lurker. I've been going just off sites so far because I'm not a nightlife kinda guy. Though definitely curious what a night of mongering with other mongers would be like.

I'm going to post again tomorrow with reports of 3 different online girls that went poorly for me. Today I'm going to post about the girl that's the reason I made this account.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/liberdade/morena-magrinha-prazer-garantido-para-voce-id-mak74[/URL]

Best sex of my life. Doesn't speak a lick of English, but luckily I speak Portuguese. Easily the best personality I've had in an escort, full of energy and girlfriend-like affection, as well as seemingly endless sex drive. We fucked for hours. Head with no condom, literally all the positions. No time counting at all, super professional. I've now met up with her over 6 times and she's basically becoming my sugar baby. She's 25,5 foot tall, and so fucking delicious. She's been a breath of fresh air, as girls I've been with in Brazil so far have either been fake pictures, or accurate pictures with horrible personalities, or good skill / personality but no chemistry and / or time watching..[/QUOTE]I'm glad [URL]photoacompanhantes.com[/URL] came through for you in the end. The general consensus is that PA is a crapshoot. You will find more reliability with some of the sites for high-end escorts like clubmodel, private55, etc. Performance and accurate photos can still be variable.

The best bet is to get escort recommendations or put in some time checking out the local language site gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL]. I wouldn't recommend point & click searches for Brazilian escorts.

FWIW, I recall seeing posts on here years back that Brasilia is great for non-pros. Maybe because there are lots of women there working for the government? I've never been, as Rio and Sao Paulo have all I need. But if I had months in Brasil, I'd check it out.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2618351]Someday I would like to go to Brasilia-Distrito Federal so I hope to read your reports on Brasilia. The Brasilia tread is dead....... So if you have time and want to do some legwork.

[B]Just a suggestion[/B] if you contact providers via Twitter, Instagram, Facebook or the following by WhatsApp.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/brasilia[/URL]

[URL]https://www.vivalocal.com/acompanhante-erotico/distrito-federal[/URL]

[URL]https://www.private55.com/acompanhantes-brasilia-df[/URL]

Try asking about the local scene I would think they would know especially if you session with them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2618292]It's customary that this kind of forums quote prices in the local currency. No need of USD in Brazil other than the funds to buy brazilian reals.[/QUOTE]The $ sign isn't unique to the USD.

[QUOTE=DataMonger;2618222]Best sex of my life. Doesn't speak a lick of English, but luckily I speak Portuguese. Easily the best personality I've had in an escort, full of energy and girlfriend-like affection, as well as seemingly endless sex drive. We fucked for hours. Head with no condom, literally all the positions. No time counting at all, super professional. I've now met up with her over 6 times and she's basically becoming my sugar baby. She's 25,5 foot tall, and so fucking delicious.[/QUOTE]She's too tall to my taste, not that I have ever met any girl over 2 meters.

Have some respect and don't promote her on the local Portuguese language monger forum in English.

If you are making hotel reservations for your trip, don't book this hotel. I have stayed here 4-5 times and been quite satisfied, but there is a construction site somewhere very close and they are building a sun deck or something on the roof of the hotel. 18 euros per night wasn't bad, but I'm going to need ear plugs to be able to sleep during the day.

I'm planning to go to Bomboa tomorrow, if someone wants join. This evening Kelly Odara (Google her) is going to entertain me.

Is Casaro open?

I will be in SP from 30 Oct. To 3 Nov, when Michael Samuel rolls back through.

Though my last two SP trips fell through, this is 80% certain.

Would like to see her pre boob job.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2618525]If you are making hotel reservations for your trip, don't book this hotel. I have stayed here 4-5 times and been quite satisfied, but there is a construction site somewhere very close and they are building a sun deck or something on the roof of the hotel. 18 euros per night wasn't bad, but I'm going to need ear plugs to be able to sleep during the day.

I'm planning to go to Bomboa tomorrow, if someone wants join. This evening Kelly Odara (Google her) is going to entertain me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nordico;2618525]...
I'm planning to go to Bomboa tomorrow,...[/QUOTE]Not knowing if you have been to Bomboa or Scandallo, I will share my observation and experience. If you read the reports, the reports will tell you the selection is very limited. The place feels tight or cozy is a nice way to put it. I think they also raise their price again to more than 200.

Personally I would not go again until the general condition improves. I would just go to Scandallo because that is where you will find a significantly larger selection which I guess is also far less than before pandemic.

I hope you find out that I am wrong if you go then I will go visit too!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2618567]Not knowing if you have been to Bomboa or Scandallo, I will share my observation and experience. If you read the reports, the reports will tell you the selection is very limited. The place feels tight or cozy is a nice way to put it. I think they also raise their price again to more than 200.

Personally I would not go again until the general condition improves. I would just go to Scandallo because that is where you will find a significantly larger selection which I guess is also far less than before pandemic.

I hope you find out that I am wrong if you go then I will go visit too![/QUOTE]I don't doubt what you say. I did go to old Bomboa few times and just wanted to check it out. I'm planning to go to Scandallo on Wednesday and Thursday.

[QUOTE=Markon;2618537]Would like to see her pre boob job.[/QUOTE]Her body is exactly same as in the photos or better. I didn't like those tits too much. They are strange. Otherwise the girl was great. Really sweet girl, who gives you excellent sloppy blowjob. She said she used to work in Scandallo and I believe that. Nice, small apartment in Moema with minimum bureaucracy. The damage was 500/ HR.

Tomorrow Im going to see Tais Pierre, a hardbody MILF (maybe 31-32) with huge tits, who was out of circulation for couple of years. She has great reviews on gpguia. Shes asking 350/hr.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2618535]Is Casaro open?

I will be in SP from 30 Oct. To 3 Nov, when Michael Samuel rolls back through.

Though my last two SP trips fell through, this is 80% certain.[/QUOTE]Casarao is still closed and nobody seems to know, but some locals are hoping it opens in November, when they ease the restrictions.

What could be fun are the Halloween parties the clinicas are going to have.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2618512]She's too tall to my taste, not that I have ever met any girl over 2 meters.

Have some respect and don't promote her on the local Portuguese language monger forum in English.[/QUOTE]She's five feet. 1.55 ish meters.

How is it disrespectful to post in English? She preferred it so that there's an English TD on her PA listing to attract international clients. The higher quality of her average client, the better for me IMO.

Always got to have grumpy folks.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2617403]That's what I love about Brazil. Even an abundance of the white girls got phat butts! Yum, yum, yummy![/QUOTE]I saw someone like her an hour ago after I finished a date in Jardim. Large everything but very narrow waist, LOL. She was taking selfie in front of the elevator where there was a wall of mirrors. I was think many working girls stay here so I asked for her number and she said nao.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2618056]The lady who greeted me on my entries does everything but kiss me when I enter. The friendliest reception you would get of any establishment of its kind in the world.[/QUOTE]I agree the lady that runs it speaks really good English and was friendly with everybody. This place seems more like a hangout for some guys as it was super busy on a Sunday. I would definitely go back here.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2618618]Casarao is still closed and nobody seems to know, but some locals are hoping it opens in November, when they ease the restrictions.

What could be fun are the Halloween parties the clinicas are going to have.[/QUOTE]Not only is carsaro closed but it seems the sign has been permanently stripped from the building. It leaves me wondering if the owners are planning to re-open in a new location or are they officially throwing in the towel and calling it a day. In may of this year, on a previous trip to SP, I noticed the overhead "casaro" sign was still present. In July, I took another peek as I took an afternoon stroll down rua augusta and the sign had been removed. I hope I'm wrong, but the fact that it's gone now could be bad news for the future of this former SP institution.

[QUOTE=OJeito;2618813]Not only is carsaro closed but it seems the sign has been permanently stripped from the building. It leaves me wondering if the owners are planning to re-open in a new location or are they officially throwing in the towel and calling it a day. In may of this year, on a previous trip to SP, I noticed the overhead "casaro" sign was still present. In July, I took another peek as I took an afternoon stroll down rua augusta and the sign had been removed. I hope I'm wrong, but the fact that it's gone now could be bad news for the future of this former SP institution.[/QUOTE]Some kids were practicing with their slingshots on it and it was starting to look like crap. City ordinances required they take the sign down as it was causing an eyesore. Or so I've been told.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2618610]Her body is exactly same as in the photos or better. I didn't like those tits too much. They are strange. Otherwise the girl was great. Really sweet girl, who gives you excellent sloppy blowjob. She said she used to work in Scandallo and I believe that. Nice, small apartment in Moema with minimum bureaucracy. The damage was 500/ HR.

Tomorrow Im going to see Tais Pierre, a hardbody MILF (maybe 31-32) with huge tits, who was out of circulation for couple of years. She has great reviews on gpguia. Shes asking 350/hr.[/QUOTE]I applaud you on your taste. Two different types of garotas, but both hot. Are they independent or did you go through an agency?

[QUOTE=Combo;2618842]I applaud you on your taste. Two different types of garotas, but both hot. Are they independent or did you go through an agency?[/QUOTE]I think I found Kelly on Twitter, but also saw her on Clubmodel and checked her reviews on gpguia.

Tais Pierre was on my to-do list few years ago, but to my disappointment she disappeared from the scene. Now she has come back and I sent her a message when I arrived to Sao Paulo. She has 122 positive and 1 negative reviews on gpguia.

Just came back to my hotel after spending more than three hours with her. She came from her kick boxing training to meet me in Lido Plaza. Her figure is quite impressive; 5'10" hard body with big tits. She looks like a gipsy with her jet black hair and pale, white skin. I thought she has butt implants, but now I think those buttocks are real. She showed me a video where she does repetitions with 240 kilos in a leg press. We spent 1,5 hours in Lido and then we went for a lunch. First when she came to Lido she seemed reserved, but after a while we had great time together. Brazilian women are different from other nationalities when you have some chemistry with them. I had some problem with Claro and couldn't order an Uber to take us to the restaurant, but she did it with her phone and also ordered me an Uber to take me back to my hotel. I offered her money for those rides, but she refused. I can't imagine Romanian working girl refusing money offered. Next time shes going to bring her Jeepy, instead of motorcycle, to take me safely back to my hotel.

700 Reais plus lunch well spent and I'm definitely going to repeat.

While reading gpguia review, it suddenly hits me this girl from Clubmodel is the redhat I met at Scandallo (I am not 100% certain so someone who knows can tell me if I am right) that I have mentioned in my posts. I did contact her in early September when there was no review yet. Her servic is limited so I did not see her, same problem when we met in the club.

She wanted 600 at her place, and 800 at Scandallo

[QUOTE=Review]
... Ela regula bem os programas no flat dela, tipo uns 2 por semana, pq disse que ganha mais dinheiro com os gringos na boate...
[/QUOTE]

This is her pictures from her clubmode ad. The reason I post picture is to have a reference point.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2619015]While reading gpguia review, it suddenly hits me this girl from Clubmodel is the redhat I met at Scandallo (I am not 100% certain so someone who knows can tell me if I am right) that I have mentioned in my posts. I did contact her in early September when there was no review yet. Her servic is limited so I did not see her, same problem when we met in the club.

She wanted 600 at her place, and 800 at Scandallo



This is her pictures from her clubmode ad. The reason I post picture is to have a reference point.[/QUOTE]Yeah she's an absolute dime piece, but shame she's not well reviewed, and didn't pass your tests in Scandallo.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2619015]While reading gpguia review, it suddenly hits me this girl from Clubmodel is the redhat I met at Scandallo (I am not 100% certain so someone who knows can tell me if I am right) that I have mentioned in my posts. I did contact her in early September when there was no review yet. Her servic is limited so I did not see her, same problem when we met in the club.

She wanted 600 at her place, and 800 at Scandallo



This is her pictures from her clubmode ad. The reason I post picture is to have a reference point.[/QUOTE]Limited service in Brasil? I guess there's an exception to every rule.

Where is a good thread on gpgiua on clinicas WhatsApp number and website where have daily roster status photos. Which found very helpful to decide on which Clinicas to visit on which days. Just WhatsApp the clinicas and ask them to add you for status.

[URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=223710[/URL]

[QUOTE=Combo;2619024]Limited service in Brasil? I guess there's an exception to every rule.[/QUOTE]I met one today that went the extra mile. She pulled out a second condom when she already put one condom on me. I thought she was going to put the second one on top of the first one. Boy was I wrong, she proceed to try to give me an anal with the second condom. LOL.

[QUOTE=Combo;2619024]Limited service in Brasil? I guess there's an exception to every rule.[/QUOTE]Happens all the time. There is no rule saying the service in Brasil is always great. It is not. YMMV. BarraVip girls in Rio provided shitty service every single time. Service at termas was hit or miss too.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2619015]While reading gpguia review, it suddenly hits me this girl from Clubmodel is the redhat I met at Scandallo (I am not 100% certain so someone who knows can tell me if I am right) that I have mentioned in my posts. I did contact her in early September when there was no review yet. Her servic is limited so I did not see her, same problem when we met in the club.

She wanted 600 at her place, and 800 at Scandallo



This is her pictures from her clubmode ad. The reason I post picture is to have a reference point.[/QUOTE]I saw quite a few redheads in Scandallo during my trip in mid October. At least 3-4 were 8. 5+. One was a dead ringer for Ashley Greene of Twilight fame.

I presumed you were taking about her, as she was the hottest of the lot and at the club during my visit. From the pictures you posted, I see that I was wrong and you are taking about another girl. I think I saw her too during my last trip, but she might be blonde now.

When I spoke to the Ashley Greene doppelganger (I think she said her name was Myara), she wanted a firm 1 k for 60 minutes and I got the vibe that she would be timid and offer mediocre / non-GFE service so passed. I went to Scandallo 3 times during that trip and during my 9-11 hours at the club over the 3 nights, I didn't see her go to a room with anyone. Which speaks volumes.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2619102]I saw quite a few redheads in Scandallo during my trip in mid October. At least 3-4 were 8.5[/QUOTE]I enjoyed this attractive redhead's clean, pink butt hole in the room at Scandallo. Good sucking and fucking with quality anal sex at a fair price. Very nice. Very pleasant. Afterwards we had dinner at the restaurant. She offered to stay with me overnight at my hotel, but I declined in favor of searching out another piece of ass. My goodness I love Scandallo!

[QUOTE=DataMonger;2618641]How is it disrespectful to post in English? She preferred it so that there's an English TD on her PA listing to attract international clients. The higher quality of her average client, the better for me IMO.

Always got to have grumpy folks.[/QUOTE]For every grumpy there is one BOP. I'm sure you have seen the word on that other forum where you promoted your girlfriend. Nothing wrong with having a paid girlfriend, in my opinion, if you are having good time, but gpguia is a local forum and they have made few exceptions, allowing some posts in other languages, but their language is Portuguese and we should respect that. Another thing is that, if they knew that she asked you to post there and probably helped you to write it, they would take your post down and ban you forever. They are really strict with these things.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2619015]While reading gpguia review, it suddenly hits me this girl from Clubmodel is the redhat I met at Scandallo (I am not 100% certain so someone who knows can tell me if I am right) that I have mentioned in my posts. I did contact her in early September when there was no review yet. Her servic is limited so I did not see her, same problem when we met in the club.

She wanted 600 at her place, and 800 at Scandallo.[/QUOTE]I think I may have seen this ruiva at Scandallo too. It was either her, or somebody who looked like her. Anyway, she caught me looking and touched me on the arm with a little greeting, but I chose not to pull the trigger. There were a lot of ruivas there that night. A blonde is a dime a dozen (everybody is one or wants to be one). But, a good redhead is hard to find. Unless you're at Scandallo apparently LOL! I know all men don't like redheads, but I have a weakness for the good looking ones.

I am of the firm belief that redheads come in two flavors — ugly or hot 🤣.

Trip in Dec 2020 was my first encounter with redheads and two of them at the same time. Then again in May 2021 which turned out to be a flop. Just wasn't digging her🤬.

Then I met the redhead at Scandello. Hot. But wanted to charge 12 k for the weekend. Found a nice younger looking Zendaya like chick.

I am done with redheads 🤣.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2619295]I am of the firm belief that redheads come in two flavors ugly or hot. I am done with redheads.[/QUOTE]I wholeheartedly agree. There seems to be no in between with the ruivas. They either give me a boner or make me want to run away hahaha! But, I'm not close to being done with them LOL! Not even!

Ruivas v mulatas!

(Redheads v light skinned black women).

Irish women are a lost African tribe!

We all came from Africa and we all want to go back!

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2619295]I am of the firm belief that redheads come in two flavors ugly or hot 🤣.

Trip in Dec 2020 was my first encounter with redheads and two of them at the same time. Then again in May 2021 which turned out to be a flop. Just wasn't digging her🤬.

Then I met the redhead at Scandello. Hot. But wanted to charge 12 k for the weekend. Found a nice younger looking Zendaya like chick.

I am done with redheads 🤣.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2619036]Happens all the time. There is no rule saying the service in Brasil is always great. It is not. YMMV. BarraVip girls in Rio provided shitty service every single time. Service at termas was hit or miss too.[/QUOTE]Rule was the wrong choice of words. I was just commenting that it's rare to find a girl with limited services in Brasil. In my many years of hobbying, I've found the Brasilian garotas to have way less limitations on what they'll do than chicas in any other country. But yes, of course, not every single one of them is a freak.

[QUOTE=Combo;2619325]Rule was the wrong choice of words. I was just commenting that it's rare to find a girl with limited services in Brasil. In my many years of hobbying, I've found the Brasilian garotas to have way less limitations on what they'll do than chicas in any other country. But yes, of course, not every single one of them is a freak.[/QUOTE]I think Brazli is much better than other countries but it probably is not rare.

I met one yesterday who only kissed on lips. I think she is a lesbian. She is not bad because she did a bunch of kinky stuff. Today I met another one who tried to give me a CBJ and basically doesn't kiss despite I clearly asked in WP. She said it was [B]sem[/B]. I showed her WP conversation and it was [B]sim[/B]. I think she is not the person answering WP. I visited another girl from clubmodel tonight. She wanted me to pay first in the room so I walked out. She also offered a dupla for 700 when I was already in the lobby. I don't think she will provide good service either. There is no other reason to insist pay before since I can show her I have money. The first two girls above also offer dupla for 1000 when I went to see the first girl. I think these girls share room to save money that is why they offer dupla.

Sometimes I have a string of good ones, but today and yesterday weren't so good.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2619299]I wholeheartedly agree. There seems to be no in between with the ruivas. They either give me a boner or make me want to run away hahaha! But, I'm not close to being done with them LOL! Not even![/QUOTE]True.

Some of the most stunning redheads aren't redheads at all. They can pull off that rich, darker red coloring.

I once hooked up with an Irish looking, fair and freckled girl in Rio. I usually go for the more typical Brasileira look. I think I was in the mood for a girl like back home in the States. Sometimes variety is what makes Brazil so special.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2619379]...
Sometimes I have a string of good ones, but today and yesterday weren't so good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2613807]...I used to ask about services, but I don't anymore since another member said he never asked. For some reason, the service is getting better but my need is simple....[/QUOTE]I have some bad ones since that post. LOL. I don't need to mention the clinica's name because it is not clinica specific.

I had a good run with some newbies but I had a string of bad ones recently too. One night I went to a Moema clinica, there were only 4 available. Most I have not seen before, probably were new too. I picked one who didn't do BBBJ so I ended the session and asked for a negra while I was still staying in the room undressed. When she came, I asked if she did BBBJ, she wanted 100 more. I say no, paid and left.

I think new girls usually are not reliable. They don't have the stamina to give BJ long enough. There were a few that the first thing they tried was to put condom on me. So in the future, I am going to interview them if they are new. I don't think experienced providers can survive in this business doing CBJ.

Is it a bad idea to visit Brazil during the holidays? Will most of the girls be heading home with family? Any word when Castro will reopen?

Hello fellow mongers,

My second post on ISG, although I have been reading the forums for a few years now. A little about me. I have been mongering all over the world including Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam, Russia, Germany, France and even the United States to some degree.

A friend of mine told me about the mongering possibilities in Brazil a few months back and since then I have been reading both the Rio and Sao Paulo forums regularly; probably gone through 150 pages on both and reading the field reports have made me want to go so badly!!

I am a young guy, pretty decent looking and I do well for myself so I have a tendency to always go for the best or hottest girls no matter the cost.

By reading the forums I think I know my way around mongering in both cities and the do's and don'ts however I am still left with 2 questions and would be grateful for answers-.

1. I would like to hire a private chauffeur in Sao Paulo to take me and the girls around, does anyone know of any resources for this or is this a stupid idea and just use uber instead?. I will be staying in a suite at the Grand Hyatt. I realize its dangerous 45 minute uber ride from there.

2. I will be carrying in around 16000 USD $ for a trip of 12 days; I have more available if required. I realise its a fairly decent sum, but I also want the crme de la crme of what Brazil has to offer. My ideal fantasy would be barebacking (fully tested on both sides of-course) two 10's. Possibly having them with me for the entire trip. What do you guys think would be the best way to go about this? Should I just go to Scandallo and try my luck? I have browsed all the regular websites and even signed up for private directories like [URL]bookprivado.com[/URL]. I just don't want to waste a lot of time finding the right girls.

Thank you for your responses in advance gentlemen.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2619143]For every grumpy there is one BOP. I'm sure you have seen the word on that other forum where you promoted your girlfriend. Nothing wrong with having a paid girlfriend, in my opinion, if you are having good time, but gpguia is a local forum and they have made few exceptions, allowing some posts in other languages, but their language is Portuguese and we should respect that. Another thing is that, if they knew that she asked you to post there and probably helped you to write it, they would take your post down and ban you forever. They are really strict with these things.[/QUOTE]BOP?

And she didn't ask, I just asked where I could leave her a review and if she preferred it in English or not.

And not my paid girlfriend either, we meet minimum once a week while I'm in the city now, but not much talking afterwards or anything.

Its working out great for me, don't even masturbate these days loool.

I am still looking to scratch that petite novinha fetish if anybody has recommendations.

[QUOTE=Cool;2619833]Is it a bad idea to visit Brazil during the holidays? Will most of the girls be heading home with family? Any word when Castro will reopen?[/QUOTE]I think the weeks leading up to Christmas are a great time to prowl brasil. Lots of working girls are extremely driven to make a fair sum of money before the holidays officially arrive. I spent December 2020 traveling a few different states in Brazil and had I great time. Things were lively until the 22-23rd rolled around. I flew home on Christmas Day and I feel it was a good decision to leave by then. If I had it to do over I would be out of the country by the 22nd. As far as spending the holidays in Brazil and leading up to New Year's, I wouldn't say that is a great idea. You might experience some boredom until after the new year. It really depends if you have an established social circle. If so, maybe visiting during this time would suit you well.

[QUOTE=OJeito;2620301]I think the weeks leading up to Christmas are a great time to prowl brasil. Lots of working girls are extremely driven to make a fair sum of money before the holidays officially arrive. I spent December 2020 traveling a few different states in Brazil and had I great time. Things were lively until the 22-23rd rolled around. I flew home on Christmas Day and I feel it was a good decision to leave by then. If I had it to do over I would be out of the country by the 22nd. As far as spending the holidays in Brazil and leading up to New Year's, I wouldn't say that is a great idea. You might experience some boredom until after the new year. It really depends if you have an established social circle. If so, maybe visiting during this time would suit you well.[/QUOTE]I agree with you on the Dec 22/23 cutoff. And also that if you have previous contacts / friends there, you'll likely be fine virtually any time of year. And of course, this goes in any country of the World that celebrates Christmas, not just Brasil.

Has anyone stayed at the Canopy by Hilton in Sao Paulo? It appears to be a new boutique casual hotel in the Jardins area. Hoping they don't care much about bringing girls to hotel room if booked room for 2 people. I heard high profile hotels like Renaissance, Grand Hyatt might ask to register the guests to the room. Any info is appreciated.

[QUOTE=Singe247;2620202]
1. I would like to hire a private chauffeur in Sao Paulo to take me and the girls around, does anyone know of any resources for this or is this a stupid idea and just use uber instead?. I will be staying in a suite at the Grand Hyatt. I realize its dangerous 45 minute uber ride from there.

2. I will be carrying in around 16000 USD $ for a trip of 12 days; I have more available if required. I realise its a fairly decent sum, but I also want the crme de la crme of what Brazil has to offer. My ideal fantasy would be barebacking (fully tested on both sides of-course) two 10's. Possibly having them with me for the entire trip. What do you guys think would be the best way to go about this? Should I just go to Scandallo and try my luck? I have browsed all the regular websites and even signed up for private directories like [URL]bookprivado.com[/URL]. I just don't want to waste a lot of time finding the right girls.[/QUOTE]1). Uber is the way to go. It's super convenient and safe. Just use the Uber black for better cars / drivers and less cancellations.

I like the Grand Hyatt and stay there often. The traffic to many of the good restaurants and clubs is farther than the Renaissance or Tivoli (both are also good places), but not a big a big deal on a longer trip. Just be prepared to have the girls registered and book for 3+ if you want a 3some.

2) I am sure you can make arrangements ahead of time, but you can't see how the girls really look (without glam, Photoshop, etc.). You can't also tell chemistry.

I think the best route is to hit up Scandallo and work out a deal with girls you like. With your budget, it's not an issue, especially, if you are smooth and decently put together.

Everything is YMMV, but I've found many hotties willing to do what your fantasy entails, especially if you guys click. Being tested and having the cash goes a long way to overcoming the YMMV aspect. I've had a friend go with a boate girl and say he had non-GFE service with her, but I ended up getting True GFE service, as we clicked and we did an overnight outside of the club at my suite at a 5 star hotel.

The temptation of a longer multiple day / city trip will also be very tempting for the girls. Just work out all the details during the discussion and pay by the day (at end of each day) and not upfront.

I've found quite a few 9's to 9. 5's (I almost never give a 10), with passion in bed amd decent to good English skills who would go a lot further than they normally would go under the right circumstances (with $$$ being the main motivation I am sure).

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2619295].....I am done with redheads 🤣.[/QUOTE]Not so fast.

Socrates gave you some good tips, but I'd like to add a couple things.

First, I hope you aren't actually carrying around $16,000 cash during the trip. You'd be much safer withdrawing cash from ATMs every day of two, although with the large amount of money you're talking you may have to bring some cash in addition. If you do decide to bring that much cash with you, don't tell anyone you have that much (I wouldn't even tell people here) $16 k is what a typical Brasilian earns in two years. If people know you have that money, you'll become a juicy target.

2nd, before agreeing with a women to hang with you long-time, do a short test-run to see if she really is as good as she looks and will do what you want. If you want two to hang with you together, test them out together. And as Socrates said, pay them at the end of each day, not all upfront.

Sao Paulo is the best city in the world for top quality and Scandallo is probably the best site for what you want. Some of the websites have top quality, but there's no substitute for actually meeting them in person.

You should easily be able to do what you envision with the money you're willing to spend. FWIW I'm also extremely picky with women and the max I've spent in a day (on women) in Sao Paulo is about $500. Though if I had the sex drive I had 30 years ago, I could certainly spend more.

[QUOTE=Singe247;2620202]Hello fellow mongers,

My second post on ISG, although I have been reading the forums for a few years now. A little about me. I have been mongering all over the world including Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam, Russia, Germany, France and even the United States to some degree.

A friend of mine told me about the mongering possibilities in Brazil a few months back and since then I have been reading both the Rio and Sao Paulo forums regularly; probably gone through 150 pages on both and reading the field reports have made me want to go so badly!!

1. I would like to hire a private chauffeur in Sao Paulo to take me and the girls around, does anyone know of any resources for this or is this a stupid idea and just use uber instead?. I will be staying in a suite at the Grand Hyatt. I realize its dangerous 45 minute uber ride from there.

2. I will be carrying in around 16000 USD $ for a trip of 12 days; I have more available if required. I realise its a fairly decent sum, but I also want the crme de la crme of what Brazil has to offer. My ideal fantasy would be barebacking (fully tested on both sides of-course) two 10's. Possibly having them with me for the entire trip. What do you guys think would be the best way to go about this? Should I just go to Scandallo and try my luck? I have browsed all the regular websites and even signed up for private directories like [URL]bookprivado.com[/URL]. I just don't want to waste a lot of time finding the right girls.

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2620380]Has anyone stayed at the Canopy by Hilton in Sao Paulo? It appears to be a new boutique casual hotel in the Jardins area. Hoping they don't care much about bringing girls to hotel room if booked room for 2 people. I heard high profile hotels like Renaissance, Grand Hyatt might ask to register the guests to the room. Any info is appreciated.[/QUOTE]Renaissance is my go to from now on after staying there in August. Mr. Anaggie mentioned it on his reports and I'm glad I listened. As far as registering girls, I had some girls meet me at the lobby bar and we went straight up to the elevator, they don't care! Then another one I did pernoite, she gave me her name and I called the front desk to tell them to let her up, because I wanted to wait in my room for her. They gave her a room card so she could come up, and as soon as she came up she knocked at my door and gave me the key, zero issues again. I really don't know why people make a big deal out of places registering the girls, it's not a big deal really.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2620411]Not so fast.[/QUOTE]Maybe not.🤣.

[QUOTE=Singe247;2620202]Hello fellow mongers,

My second post on ISG, although I have been reading the forums for a few years now. A little about me. I have been mongering all over the world including Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam, Russia, Germany, France and even the United States to some degree.

A friend of mine told me about the mongering possibilities in Brazil a few months back and since then I have been reading both the Rio and Sao Paulo forums regularly; probably gone through 150 pages on both and reading the field reports have made me want to go so badly!!

I am a young guy, pretty decent looking and I do well for myself so I have a tendency to always go for the best or hottest girls no matter the cost.

By reading the forums I think I know my way around mongering in both cities and the do's and don'ts however I am still left with 2 questions and would be grateful for answers-.

1. I would like to hire a private chauffeur in Sao Paulo to take me and the girls around, does anyone know of any resources for this or is this a stupid idea and just use uber instead?. I will be staying in a suite at the Grand Hyatt. I realize its dangerous 45 minute uber ride from there.

2. I will be carrying in around 16000 USD $ for a trip of 12 days; I have more available if required. I realise its a fairly decent sum, but I also want the crme de la crme of what Brazil has to offer. My ideal fantasy would be barebacking (fully tested on both sides of-course) two 10's. Possibly having them with me for the entire trip. What do you guys think would be the best way to go about this? Should I just go to Scandallo and try my luck? I have browsed all the regular websites and even signed up for private directories like [URL]bookprivado.com[/URL]. I just don't want to waste a lot of time finding the right girls.

Thank you for your responses in advance gentlemen.[/QUOTE]Let me add a bit more advice as I have been able to get BBFS from girls in Scandello.

1) Get tested before you go on your trip. Show the girl the test and she will be more willing to get tested for the money you are offering. Not all girls will agree so make sure you weed them out.

2) Renaissance is extremely girl friendly. Just book your reservation with the number of guests in the room. I think the max is 3 adults per room.

3) Go into this with low expectations and prepare to spend some time at Scandello. Talk to a few girls. Actually a bunch of girls before making your decision.

4) Uber Black is just fine. You don't need to spend on a private driver.

5) Don't bring 16 k in cash. Bring about 4-5 k and then take out whatever you need from the ATM when you run low. Keep the dollars in your room safe and just change $1000-1500 at a time. Change your money in a reputable area and go straight back to the hotel after changing the money. Put the money in the safe and walk around with what you need. Carry enough for your tab to Scandello. You can always pay the girls once you get to your room.

Good luck, have fun and write about your experience after you get done.

Thank you Socrates, Combo and Anaggie for your inputs.

Will get tested before the trip and flash the report around to see who bites.

I will pay on the daily of course, but IMHO I've found that paying upfront I. E as soon as you enter the room with the girl creates a sense of goodwill maybe, I've mostly always had fantastic experiences following this.

I speak no Portuguese whatsoever, hell don't even know how to say thank you and goodbye. Shouldn't be a problem with the translator apps.

Regarding the money .

Yes carrying about 10 K in cash and the rest on a prepaid forex card. Will try and exchange 3 k every third day or so. I've found a smattering of exchange places in a mall near Hyatt. Anyone have any experiences with these? I am paranoid about being followed and mugged LOL.

I plan on using Bradesco ATMs for the rest, is there an ATM in Scandallo itself? I think it would probably be the safest one!

[QUOTE=Singe247;2620202]2. I will be carrying in around 16000 USD $ for a trip of 12 days; I have more available if required. I realise its a fairly decent sum, but I also want the crme de la crme of what Brazil has to offer. My ideal fantasy would be barebacking (fully tested on both sides of-course) two 10's. Possibly having them with me for the entire trip. What do you guys think would be the best way to go about this? Should I just go to Scandallo and try my luck? I have browsed all the regular websites and even signed up for private directories like [URL]bookprivado.com[/URL]. I just don't want to waste a lot of time finding the right girls.

Thank you for your responses in advance gentlemen.[/QUOTE]I think you have great plans and the experts in here have already answered your questions regarding women and the cash. Just wanted to chime in and add that you should be very careful about travelling with that much cash, especially internationally. I think if you travel with more than 10 k br you are required to file it and customs may bother you about why you are bringing so much cash into the country. Definitely not an expert - just wanted to give you a heads up. Good luck!

[QUOTE=Singe247;2620483]Thank you Socrates, Combo and Anaggie for your inputs.

Will get tested before the trip and flash the report around to see who bites.

I will pay on the daily of course, but IMHO I've found that paying upfront I. E as soon as you enter the room with the girl creates a sense of goodwill maybe, I've mostly always had fantastic experiences following this.

I speak no Portuguese whatsoever, hell don't even know how to say thank you and goodbye. Shouldn't be a problem with the translator apps.

Regarding the money .

Yes carrying about 10 K in cash and the rest on a prepaid forex card. Will try and exchange 3 k every third day or so. I've found a smattering of exchange places in a mall near Hyatt. Anyone have any experiences with these? I am paranoid about being followed and mugged LOL.

I plan on using Bradesco ATMs for the rest, is there an ATM in Scandallo itself? I think it would probably be the safest one![/QUOTE]Can you elaborate why the need to bring that big amount in cash instead of just pulling daily from ATMs? I don't see the value in saving a few dollars on the exchange houses versus ATM fees. I mean, if you are bringing that amount you are doing well for yourself, is saving that little worth your piece of mind? I would be more worried about getting mugged on your way in from the airport then while going to pull from local ATMs, just walk around tall with confidence and watch your surroundings.

I'm visiting Sao Paulo first time Nov 18-21 and interested to make friends with locals and expats that live here and experience how it is like to go to bar and pick up girls and have fun. I can always try escorts, massage, strip clubs, etc but would love to experience something more authentic as I plan to visit here often with the goal of establishing a permanent residency in Brazil and even learning a bit of Portuguese. I'll be staying at a nice hotel in Jardins area and happy to pick up the dinner / drinks tab for us.

[QUOTE=Singe247;2620483]Thank you Socrates, Combo and Anaggie for your inputs.

Will get tested before the trip and flash the report around to see who bites.

I will pay on the daily of course, but IMHO I've found that paying upfront I. E as soon as you enter the room with the girl creates a sense of goodwill maybe, I've mostly always had fantastic experiences following this.

I speak no Portuguese whatsoever, hell don't even know how to say thank you and goodbye. Shouldn't be a problem with the translator apps.

Regarding the money .

Yes carrying about 10 K in cash and the rest on a prepaid forex card. Will try and exchange 3 k every third day or so. I've found a smattering of exchange places in a mall near Hyatt. Anyone have any experiences with these? I am paranoid about being followed and mugged LOL.

I plan on using Bradesco ATMs for the rest, is there an ATM in Scandallo itself? I think it would probably be the safest one![/QUOTE]Do not pay upfront. They have your money and don't need to worry about providing good service. Pay after. They are used to it and will expect payment after. If they ask for it upfront. Pay half max.

How many days are you planning on staying?

Planning to stay for about 12-14 days.

I will declare on arrival. I will have it spread out on my person, and my handbag and secret pockets etc on the way from the airport.

The reasons for bringing cash are my own, unfortunately not able to share.

Thanks everyone for their advice. I will write reports when I reach.

Sao Paulo will be even more fun very soon. Reopening Cafe Photo Nov 4 and Casarao Nov 11.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2620755]Do not pay upfront. They have your money and don't need to worry about providing good service. Pay after. They are used to it and will expect payment after. If they ask for it upfront. Pay half max.

How many days are you planning on staying?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, lots of Scandallo girls require full payment upfront, as soon as you enter the room. When they come to your apt, they also require full payment upfront.

[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2621484]Unfortunately, lots of Scandallo girls require full payment upfront, as soon as you enter the room. When they come to your apt, they also require full payment upfront.[/QUOTE]Fortunately for me, except for the room, I have never paid upfront. In fact, no Scandallo girl has ever asked me to do that. Maybe I could be a good "confidence man" since many girls tell me that I have an "honest" face hahaha!

According to their instagram account, Cafe Photo is opening Thurs Nov 4th at 8 pm.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2621488]Fortunately for me, except for the room, I have never paid upfront. In fact, no Scandallo girl has ever asked me to do that. Maybe I could be a good "confidence man" since many girls tell me that I have an "honest" face hahaha![/QUOTE]Yeah as far as I recall always pay after at Scandallo. Pretty much my standard worldwide so I think I would recall if a girl hit me for up front. It's possible I suppose because I was drinking always and go with the flow. But 90% sure it's been all after.

[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2621484]Unfortunately, lots of Scandallo girls require full payment upfront, as soon as you enter the room. When they come to your apt, they also require full payment upfront.[/QUOTE]Haven't paid upfront yet. If they ask, I show them the money and give them half. Rest after we are done. If they demand upfront, I guess I would ask them to leave but since it hasn't happened yet.

Since I joined this website back in 2019, I have taken out 3 Scandello girls for a long weekend and paid afterwards. Each girls cost 4 K for the weekend. I also had 2 from PA who I paid at the end and I had 2 threesomes who I also paid at the end of the weekend.

I usually have never paid upfront in other countries either.

Where do you like to exchange your money when you're staying in SP? I can think of many places that give less than stellar exchanges, but not many with preferred rates. I usually change my cash in moema at the get money exchange house inside the ibirapuera shopping on the 3rd or 4th floor. Their rates seem fair but I'm wondering if I'm selling myself short by not exchanging my cash at another SP casa de cambio with better offered rates.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2620434]Let me add a bit more advice as I have been able to get BBFS from girls in Scandello.[/QUOTE]Great post, Anaggie. How open would you rate Brazilians with BBFS? Are they as open about it as everything else?

[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2621484]Unfortunately, lots of Scandallo girls require full payment upfront, as soon as you enter the room. When they come to your apt, they also require full payment upfront.[/QUOTE]You pay after in the clinicas. However, if I remember correctly they always made me pay before at Abbobora.

[QUOTE=OJeito;2621552]Where do you like to exchange your money when you're staying in SP? I can think of many places that give less than stellar exchanges, but not many with preferred rates. I usually change my cash in moema at the get money exchange house inside the ibirapuera shopping on the 3rd or 4th floor. Their rates seem fair but I'm wondering if I'm selling myself short by not exchanging my cash at another SP casa de cambio with better offered rates.[/QUOTE]I'd just recommend open a Charles Schwab checking account and use Bradesco ATM. You get the best exchange rate and no ATM fees. Super convenient and the ATMs are everywhere if you need to use other ATMs. If other ATMs charge you fees, Charles Schwab will refund it at the end of monthly statement. There is even ATM inside Scandallo.

Initially, I was thinking of carrying a ot of cash too, but experience members told me just use ATMs.

[QUOTE=FlowState985;2621794]I'd just recommend open a Charles Schwab checking account and use Bradesco ATM. You get the best exchange rate and no ATM fees. Super convenient and the ATMs are everywhere if you need to use other ATMs. If other ATMs charge you fees, Charles Schwab will refund it at the end of monthly statement. There is even ATM inside Scandallo.

Initially, I was thinking of carrying a ot of cash too, but experience members told me just use ATMs.[/QUOTE]And make sure you only use ATMs located inside of a secure place. Never use one located outside on the street. Too many skim scams that way. So don't do it!

[QUOTE=Singe247;2620887]Planning to stay for about 12-14 days.

I will declare on arrival. I will have it spread out on my person, and my handbag and secret pockets etc on the way from the airport.

The reasons for bringing cash are my own, unfortunately not able to share.

Thanks everyone for their advice. I will write reports when I reach.[/QUOTE]

Just be aware that by bringing in that much cash $16K+ (US), you may paint a target on your back, coming from the airport. Wish I could say all Brazilian Customs Officers were upstanding and law abiding.

While I, don't think it's as prevalent as bygone days of old, but tip-offs to criminal elements, w/r to gringos bringing in large sums money, had been know to happen from time to time. I think Rio more than Sao Paulo, but none the less, feel free to be as paranoid as you want coming in from the airport, on your taxi/uber until you get to your intended hotel.

Take care, take precautions, keep your wits about yourself, keep your head on a swivel and don't broadcast your whereabouts or travel plans while in transit with large sums of unsecured money. Good luck and report back.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2621693]Great post, Anaggie. How open would you rate Brazilians with BBFS? Are they as open about it as everything else?[/QUOTE]They are definitely more open to it than other places I have been to for sure. A lot depends on the guy though. Do you have a recent test with you that they girl can understand? Are you making her feel comfortable when talking to her or is it all business? If she feels comfortable and you don't push it too hard, I have found they are more receptive to it. If they say no, I don't push it anymore.

Not saying it happens all the time, but it happens more often than not. I also make sure I am with higher end girls who make their health a priority. Before meeting any of the girls, I am showered, clean shaven, hair combed and a bit of cologne. None of this shaggy beard and hair bullshit. I keep myself in fit shape but am in no way with a 6 pack as my goal is to be able to see my dick every morning by looking down and not in a mirror🤣 (no giant gut sticking out).

In the end, I think it is how you present yourself to the girl and how she responds to you is going to make it break the deal.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2621799]And make sure you only use ATMs located inside of a secure place. Never use one located outside on the street. Too many skim scams that way. So don't do it![/QUOTE]Def only ATMs in banks. So plan ahead and go during the day. But also make sure you answer the question right. They will ask if you want their local lame rip off rate or the market rate. Of course they don't ask it this way.

The machine will ask something like do you want Reals or withdraw $ converted to Reals. Read the question carefully but the answer is "whatever means my bank (schwAb say) will do the exchange not the local one" That is usual answered by saying you want to withdraw Reals.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Safado007;2621204]Sao Paulo will be even more fun very soon. Reopening Cafe Photo Nov 4 and Casarao Nov 11.[/QUOTE]I guess if they don't open before F1 race, they probably won't open at all. I probably will go check it out tomorrow. I hope I won't be the first and only customer again! LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2621701]You pay after in the clinicas. However, if I remember correctly they always made me pay before at Abbobora.[/QUOTE]I've not been to Brazil since before Covid, but the last time I was in Clinica Brooklin (in 2019), they had moved to 'pay before play' due to guys walking out without paying.

Also, note that Brooklin has now moved and is no longer on Rua Joaquim Guarani (near Clinica Kin). According to Gpguia it moved in the summer to Av. Professor Vicente Rao, 1656 in Jardim Cordeiro.

Hello again,

After reading through the responses, I have decided to carry about 6000 USD in cash now. The rest on card.

My question to the forum now is –.

1. I believe there's a limit to withdrawals from most ATMs in Brazil for security reasons. 1000 BRL am I correct? I read somewhere on the forum that Santander ATM's have a limit of BRL 2500? Would appreciate if you can confirm this or suggest high withdrawal ATM's in Sao Paulo. Will of course go to indoor retail bank locations for safety's sake.

Rough estimate of my expenses if my ideal scenario plays out would be around 3000 BRL in cash (2 girls, through the day, BBFS); 1500 each daily. Maybe more, I don't know yet.

How do I approach this? I doubt the girls will swipe a card!

Also, for the currency exchange from USD to BRL, I plan on calling a Cambio Exchange Service directly to my hotel lobby for a drop-off and exchange. Found a couple online that seem quite legitimate. Anyone have any experience with this?

Thanks for all the help, guys.

I found a new website showing the photos of the daily list of girls in 5 clinicas around SP. Not sure these clinicas are financially connected or this is an independent website trying to gather up the lists into one location.

[URL]https://melhoreskamas.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Singe247;2622201]Hello again,

After reading through the responses, I have decided to carry about 6000 USD in cash now. The rest on card.

My question to the forum now is .

1. I believe there's a limit to withdrawals from most ATMs in Brazil for security reasons. 1000 BRL am I correct? I read somewhere on the forum that Santander ATM's have a limit of BRL 2500? Would appreciate if you can confirm this or suggest high withdrawal ATM's in Sao Paulo. Will of course go to indoor retail bank locations for safety's sake.

Rough estimate of my expenses if my ideal scenario plays out would be around 3000 BRL in cash (2 girls, through the day, BBFS); 1500 each daily. Maybe more, I don't know yet.

How do I approach this? I doubt the girls will swipe a card!

Also, for the currency exchange from USD to BRL, I plan on calling a Cambio Exchange Service directly to my hotel lobby for a drop-off and exchange. Found a couple online that seem quite legitimate. Anyone have any experience with this?

Thanks for all the help, guys.[/QUOTE]Please RTFF in the appropriate spaces:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2656-Real-vs-Dollar-and-other-currency-issues[/URL]

You can also send yourself money using worldremit etc and get it from locations and its very convenient.

[QUOTE=Singe247;2622201]Hello again,

After reading through the responses, I have decided to carry about 6000 USD in cash now. The rest on card.

My question to the forum now is .

1. I believe there's a limit to withdrawals from most ATMs in Brazil for security reasons. 1000 BRL am I correct? I read somewhere on the forum that Santander ATM's have a limit of BRL 2500? Would appreciate if you can confirm this or suggest high withdrawal ATM's in Sao Paulo. Will of course go to indoor retail bank locations for safety's sake.

Rough estimate of my expenses if my ideal scenario plays out would be around 3000 BRL in cash (2 girls, through the day, BBFS); 1500 each daily. Maybe more, I don't know yet.

How do I approach this? I doubt the girls will swipe a card!

Also, for the currency exchange from USD to BRL, I plan on calling a Cambio Exchange Service directly to my hotel lobby for a drop-off and exchange. Found a couple online that seem quite legitimate. Anyone have any experience with this?

Thanks for all the help, guys.[/QUOTE]What? No that is total crap about the limits. I was taking out about 2500 R / day and that was my banks limit not the local bank. Plus you can always use two ATMs or two cards.

[QUOTE=Singe247;2622201] . . . After reading through the responses, I have decided to carry about 6000 USD in cash now. The rest on card . . .

How do I approach this? I doubt the girls will swipe a card! [/QUOTE]

Oddly enough, many high-end SP girls do have their own credit card service machines (ie. SquareOne ...etc). I see this all the time on the PA website. Girls at Mabs/Balcony Bar (in RJ) use to tell me this all the time, if it was like 2am and I told them, I wouldn't the cash until the morning.

Although, I didn't trust them enough, to allow my credit card to be swiped, given all the wide-spread scams in Brazil, associated with the credit card info, being stolen and then used to clean out accounts. This scam, maybe still ongoing, although no reports of such activity, as of late. Best to stick to giving the girls cash, if you can help it.

[QUOTE=Singe247;2622201] Also, for the currency exchange from USD to BRL, I plan on calling a Cambio Exchange Service directly to my hotel lobby for a drop-off and exchange. Found a couple online that seem quite legitimate. Anyone have any experience with this? [/QUOTE]

Not even sure if this is a exchange house service thing for a few K's (USD). Maybe, if you were exchanging a few 100K's (USD), but have at it, I could be wrong and you'll find an exchange house to perform this service.

Recommendations for a nice love motel? Probably going to be calling over an escort, and I've heard mixed reviews about the Hyatt's guest policy. I've looked several pages back with the search functionality but couldn't find anything in the SP forum.

I arrived just before midnight. The place was packed. The layout is similar to Lotus Club but smaller. It also has a sushsi bar. I had a good feeling when I step out of the Uber because the women I saw outside were pretty hot. LOL. Around midnight, there were less than 60 girls inside, possibly less than 50. Quality of girls probably is about the same or less depending on the type of girls you like, I guess. Because the place is small, it is pretty easy to see everyone there. I need to see them close, and this place is perfect.

I met a 19 years old spinner with a very pretty face. She asked 900 and we settled on 600 quickly. She is exactly my type. I would have paid more if she asked. She beats every girl I met at Scandallo by a wide margin, haha. Having said that, I am fully aware that many will disagree and I understand that. We spent sometime making out in the club, DFK and she did not resist any of my advances. She did not have problem making out in front of her friends like she was my girlfriend. I really enjoy the experience. There were at least two other couples making out but I think one of the men is taking advantage of the girl without intention taking the girl to the room.

The club have room on site but it won't be available until next week. This is what the girl told me. The girl took me to a nearby motel and we spent a couple of hours there. The room has a jacuzzi and the cost is R350, not cheap, but I got to spent more time with the girl. With room service the total is about 500. We took the taxi from the club and the same taxi was there waiting for us to come out.

The entrada to the club 350 with 150 consumable. I did not ask more detail about other time as it was so packed. My bill is about 950 at the club. It's already morning so I am going to get some sleep.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2622379]Recommendations for a nice love motel? Probably going to be calling over an escort, and I've heard mixed reviews about the Hyatt's guest policy. I've looked several pages back with the search functionality but couldn't find anything in the SP forum.[/QUOTE]I've had no issues with Grand Hyatt. You just need to register the girl at the front desk and have booked your reservation for 2 or more persons. If it's during the day or not too late at night, you can also go the "backdoor" way via the pool / restaurant entrance and then to the elevators.

As for a good love motel, I had a great time at Lush. It's quite luxurious and a bit pricey.

[URL]https://lushmotel.com.br/cat/suite/?lang=en[/URL]

[QUOTE=Singe247;2622201]Hello again,

After reading through the responses, I have decided to carry about 6000 USD in cash now. The rest on card.

My question to the forum now is .

1. I believe there's a limit to withdrawals from most ATMs in Brazil for security reasons. 1000 BRL am I correct? I read somewhere on the forum that Santander ATM's have a limit of BRL 2500? Would appreciate if you can confirm this or suggest high withdrawal ATM's in Sao Paulo. Will of course go to indoor retail bank locations for safety's sake.

Rough estimate of my expenses if my ideal scenario plays out would be around 3000 BRL in cash (2 girls, through the day, BBFS); 1500 each daily. Maybe more, I don't know yet.
[/QUOTE]I usually only bring $1 k USD, and that's for emergencies. Many girls will take USD in lieu of Reals, especially if you give them a favorable exchange rate of 5:1 to cover their exchange costs.

You can easily get what you need via ATMs. I usually use Bradesco or Satander inside a branch or mall or GRU.

The limits per transaction vary from R1 k to R2. 5 k, but you can do multiple transactions up to your banks daily limit. Also helps to have 2 or more accounts for higher withdrawal limits.

Also set travel advisories, as many transactions in Brazil get flagged as suspicious. Having 2 or 3 ATM cards / credit cards (especially for Uber) helps a lot.

Thanks again,

Found my answers for ATM's from The Cane's post on the money forum.

The drop off exchange service is available for exchanges of over 2 K USD. They will probably charge well for delivery I expect.

On the matter of women.

I have found an Isabelle Drummond (link below). Definitely close to a 10 in my eyes.

She wants 1500 BRL for an hour! This is quite high I believe. How much do you think I should negotiate with her to keep her through the day ?

Is she worth it or will I find her type at Scandallo and pay lower amounts? What do y'all think?

[URL]https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/isabelle-drummond/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Singe247;2622201]Hello again,

Also, for the currency exchange from USD to BRL, I plan on calling a Cambio Exchange Service directly to my hotel lobby for a drop-off and exchange. Found a couple online that seem quite legitimate. Anyone have any experience with this?
[/QUOTE]So you'll get a super lousy rate, just for the sake of saving yourself a short ride to the casa de cambio?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2621876]Def only ATMs in banks. So plan ahead and go during the day. But also make sure you answer the question right. They will ask if you want their local lame rip off rate or the market rate. Of course they don't ask it this way.

The machine will ask something like do you want Reals or withdraw $ converted to Reals. Read the question carefully but the answer is "whatever means my bank (schwAb say) will do the exchange not the local one" That is usual answered by saying you want to withdraw Reals.

Good luck![/QUOTE]When I purchase with credit card they ask if I want to pay in reals or USD should I be paying in usd because the rates are different?

[QUOTE=Singe247;2622201]...I have decided to carry about 6000 USD in cash now. The rest on card....[/QUOTE]600 USD / day x 14 = 8400 USD.

You have 6000 USD cash, the daily limit should not be a problem even if there is one. Almost everything else can be paid by credit card.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2622379]Recommendations for a nice love motel? Probably going to be calling over an escort, and I've heard mixed reviews about the Hyatt's guest policy. I've looked several pages back with the search functionality but couldn't find anything in the SP forum.[/QUOTE]Plenty of these throughout SP. Any area. I used to go to Lido Motel. Tens of rooms, some with two seater jacuzzi and some with a huge tub accomodating 4 people and a bed so wide I never saw before: we were 5 on it! Even has a pole, discos light and food service included in the room rate (for about 3-4 hrs). They provide as many towel as you ask for during the time you are there. Has its own basement car park with valet service.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2622447]I arrived just before midnight. ...[/QUOTE]I went by Lotus Club first as I made a mistake picking the old address. It looked very slow from outside. I ordered another Uber to go to the new location. I was surprised how busy it was. It was packed both outside and inside that made me feel excited to be there. I think by my counting, the men to women ratio was at least 3 men to 1 woman but that wasn't a problem for me.

The girl started to give me a CBJ when we were in the room even though she said she has no restrictions in the club. She said she would do BBBJ if I didn't like it. Her kisses also became lackluster, no tongue action. Then she proceeded to ride me very hard. I think she was trying to get me to come faster. At this point, the performance in the room was worse than in the club. Now I can throw away all the interview tests in the club. LOL. This is the point of my post.

Then I remembered what Anaggie said about STD tests, I happened to have a blood test including STD tests recently. I had the Brazilian doctor's message confirming the tests were all clean in my WP. I showed her my tests and the doctor's response. That may have improved the situation and she started to give me BBBJ and passionate kisses. At that point, she was also very wet. Later she said Eu pensei que seria como os outros, que nao me faria gozar mas vc fez e eu adorei. But I knew it wasn't me, it was because she didn't do BBBJ and rode me too hard
too long to achieve the orgasm if she really had one. I am not sure the change of attitude is because my test results or her orgasm. Overall, I had a satisfying night.

Just to clarify, I think the girl is very hot but that does not mean she is the prettiest one in the club. I can agree with most people who is the prettiest, but it is likely I won't agree with many about hotness.


One thing I don't like about the club last night was Cafe Photo did not give me an itemized detail and I did not ask for one. I don't think I have ordered that many drinks based on the bill total, and my card never leave me.

[QUOTE=Singe247;2622485]Thanks again,

Found my answers for ATM's from The Cane's post on the money forum.

The drop off exchange service is available for exchanges of over 2 K USD. They will probably charge well for delivery I expect.

On the matter of women.

I have found an Isabelle Drummond (link below). Definitely close to a 10 in my eyes.

She wants 1500 BRL for an hour! This is quite high I believe. How much do you think I should negotiate with her to keep her through the day ?

Is she worth it or will I find her type at Scandallo and pay lower amounts? What do y'all think?

[URL]https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/isabelle-drummond/[/URL][/QUOTE]That is quite high and there are lots of girls like this at Scandello. Not my type though so I didn't waste my time talking to them. I recommend not to make any bookings till you see what is available in Scandello. As a price comparison, I paid 4 K from Thursday night till Sunday evening with BBFS and CIP but no anal for this one from Scandello.

[QUOTE=Singe247;2622485]I have found an Isabelle Drummond (link below). Definitely close to a 10 in my eyes.

She wants 1500 BRL for an hour! This is quite high I believe. How much do you think I should negotiate with her to keep her through the day ?

Is she worth it or will I find her type at Scandallo and pay lower amounts? What do y'all think?

[URL]https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/isabelle-drummond/[/URL][/QUOTE]This is extremely high. It begs the question if you willing to pay that much, why are bothering to fly to fly to Brazil? For my own curiosity, I went to read her reviews on the local Portuguese board. She doesn't have any reviews written, but a lot of criticism of her rates. Some of have said she was charging 600 reais in her local city. Some escorts try to make some quick cash by traveling to a new city and leveraging their novelty.

More worrisome, she is very aggressive at putting down people who challenge her rates. Judge the translation for yourself:

"I'm not at your level and I don't intend to be, I want people of only high standards who don't have time to come here and talk shit, this is something for poor people who certainly shouldn't earn what I earn in a day. I do charge 1500, and every day I have clients, all of them high standard, and 1500 doesn't even make a difference in their pockets, unlike you who are poor, and if you are going to pay an expensive companion and you give the value, will be absent for child support. First you earn 100 k per month and then come talk about me! Your poor, go to work to afford a luxury life, because that's what you lack. Ahhh and if any escort is seeing this, charge DEAR because they pay! Only the poor who don't pay, and that's not the one we want to relate to, is it? And remember, high level man, you're tired of seeing chest, ass and ppk on the cover of an ad, and that's what makes me different and earn more than any other escort! Kissessss".

As Anaggie said, go to Scandallo and start to figure things out. You don't seem like a guy who puts a lot of time into researching things so that is your best bet.

Or if you want something lined up before arriving, contact this Drumond who is a certified quality provider for 600 reais including anal.

[URL]https://twitter.com/deboradrumondsp[/URL]

[QUOTE=HoyaDay;2622522]When I purchase with credit card they ask if I want to pay in reals or USD should I be paying in usd because the rates are different?[/QUOTE]When using a credit card always pay in local currency, so the exchange is handled by your bank. If you pay in USD the exchange is handled by the local bank and you will pay more because they will use a poor exchange rate.

[QUOTE=Singe247;2622485]I have found an Isabelle Drummond (link below). Definitely close to a 10 in my eyes.

She wants 1500 BRL for an hour! This is quite high I believe. How much do you think I should negotiate with her to keep her through the day ?

Is she worth it or will I find her type at Scandallo and pay lower amounts? What do y'all think?

[URL]https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/isabelle-drummond/[/URL][/QUOTE]I think you can find her type in Scandallo. She is not my type either. I agree with Anaggie that you should see the girl in person first. There is a funny thread on this girl on the local forum. Local guys weren't happy about her prices. Though one guy did a video chat with her and thought she was more normal looking. The girl also is responding back online to the hate messages so I kinda feel bad for her. It's her body so she should charge what's she wants. Wasn't there a movie about a guy spending one million dollars for a night for another guys wife. To each their own.

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[QUOTE=Singe247;2622485]Thanks again,

Found my answers for ATM's from The Cane's post on the money forum.

The drop off exchange service is available for exchanges of over 2 K USD. They will probably charge well for delivery I expect.

On the matter of women.

I have found an Isabelle Drummond (link below). Definitely close to a 10 in my eyes.

She wants 1500 BRL for an hour! This is quite high I believe. How much do you think I should negotiate with her to keep her through the day ?

Is she worth it or will I find her type at Scandallo and pay lower amounts? What do y'all think?

[URL]https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/isabelle-drummond/[/URL][/QUOTE]1500 BR per hour is indeed high, very high. Especially for a chick you haven't met before. I think you're much better off meeting them in person at Scandallo. That way you can get a feel for how you get along.

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2622673]When using a credit card always pay in local currency, so the exchange is handled by your bank. If you pay in USD the exchange is handled by the local bank and you will pay more because they will use a poor exchange rate.[/QUOTE]Good to know!

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2622482]I usually only bring $1 k USD, and that's for emergencies. Many girls will take USD in lieu of Reals, especially if you give them a favorable exchange rate of 5:1 to cover their exchange costs.

You can easily get what you need via ATMs. I usually use Bradesco or Satander inside a branch or mall or GRU.

The limits per transaction vary from R1 k to R2. 5 k, but you can do multiple transactions up to your banks daily limit. Also helps to have 2 or more accounts for higher withdrawal limits.

Also set travel advisories, as many transactions in Brazil get flagged as suspicious. Having 2 or 3 ATM cards / credit cards (especially for Uber) helps a lot.[/QUOTE]Any time I travel abroad I always take enough cash that would cover my expenses for the duration of my stay. This is out of an abundance of caution in case for some reason ATMs and credit cards do not work. I have always returned home with the same amount of cash with which I left.

So it seems at new Cafe Photo also no need to pay saida / exit fee when leaving with a girl, compared to other boates E. G. Scandallo charging 250 BRL? I was actually expecting this would have changed at new location.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2622447]I arrived just before midnight. The place was packed. The layout is similar to Lotus Club but smaller. It also has a sushsi bar. I had a good feeling when I step out of the Uber because the women I saw outside were pretty hot. LOL. Around midnight, there were less than 60 girls inside, possibly less than 50. Quality of girls probably is about the same or less depending on the type of girls you like, I guess. Because the place is small, it is pretty easy to see everyone there. I need to see them close, and this place is perfect.

I met a 19 years old spinner with a very pretty face. She asked 900 and we settled on 600 quickly. She is exactly my type. I would have paid more if she asked. She beats every girl I met at Scandallo by a wide margin, haha. Having said that, I am fully aware that many will disagree and I understand that. We spent sometime making out in the club, DFK and she did not resist any of my advances. She did not have problem making out in front of her friends like she was my girlfriend. I really enjoy the experience. There were at least two other couples making out but I think one of the men is taking advantage of the girl without intention taking the girl to the room.

The club have room on site but it won't be available until next week. This is what the girl told me. The girl took me to a nearby motel and we spent a couple of hours there. The room has a jacuzzi and the cost is R350, not cheap, but I got to spent more time with the girl. With room service the total is about 500. We took the taxi from the club and the same taxi was there waiting for us to come out.

The entrada to the club 350 with 150 consumable. I did not ask more detail about other time as it was so packed. My bill is about 950 at the club. It's already morning so I am going to get some sleep.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2622876]Any time I travel abroad I always take enough cash that would cover my expenses for the duration of my stay. This is out of an abundance of caution in case for some reason ATMs and credit cards do not work. I have always returned home with the same amount of cash with which I left.[/QUOTE]That's my standard practice as well. Maybe not quite the amount for my entire stay, but enough for several days, to give me enough time to figure our how to get cash.

I've gone to Cuba quite a few times over the years, and there you have to have enough for your entire stay, or you won't be eating when you run out.

[QUOTE=Combo;2623341]That's my standard practice as well. Maybe not quite the amount for my entire stay, but enough for several days, to give me enough time to figure our how to get cash.

I've gone to Cuba quite a few times over the years, and there you have to have enough for your entire stay, or you won't be eating when you run out.[/QUOTE]Is this really that big a concern for you folks? I've never landed in a foreign country with more than a hundred USD. Schwab refunds ATM withdrawals, so carrying cash just seems like a pain in the ass. Our modern digital banking system is designed to make international commerce as easy as possible. I have been locked out of my account before, but a phone call has always been able to clear it up. I did forget my debit card in the ATM on multiple instances though, and that was a pain in the ass. Had to have Schwab overnight it internationally. I could see that being a problem, but was able to survive just fine with my credit cards.

[QUOTE=Safado007;2623207]So it seems at new Cafe Photo also no need to pay saida / exit fee when leaving with a girl, compared to other boates E. G. Scandallo charging 250 BRL? I was actually expecting this would have changed at new location.[/QUOTE]The rooms were not ready. I think that will change once the rooms become available. I was told by the girl about the rooms so I am not even sure about that.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2623363]Is this really that big a concern for you folks? I've never landed in a foreign country with more than a hundred USD. Schwab refunds ATM withdrawals, so carrying cash just seems like a pain in the ass. Our modern digital banking system is designed to make international commerce as easy as possible. I have been locked out of my account before, but a phone call has always been able to clear it up. I did forget my debit card in the ATM on multiple instances though, and that was a pain in the ass. Had to have Schwab overnight it internationally. I could see that being a problem, but was able to survive just fine with my credit cards.[/QUOTE]Not a big concern, but I like to be sure. I don't bring a substantial amount. Just enough to help me survive for a few days if I'm unable to access money from ATMs or other sources. Maybe $300-400 or so (obviously more for Cuba).

In contrast, in the USA, I rarely have more than $100 on me.

Anyone carrying several thousand USD in Brasil, Colombia, etc is asking for trouble IMO.

[QUOTE=Singe247;2622485]...

She wants 1500 BRL for an hour! This is quite high I believe. How much do you think I should negotiate with her to keep her through the day ?

Is she worth it or will I find her type at Scandallo and pay lower amounts? What do y'all think?...[/QUOTE]I contacted her when she just appeared. My issue was that she wanted 50% prepayment and there was no review at the time and all her photos were the same style with heavy filters.

I am like you, interested in seeing her. From my perspective, I did not find one like her in Scandallo in my recent visits. My guess is that you will have a slim chance finding anyone like her in most of her pictures. I am guessing you would not recognize her even if you see her face to face in Scandallo. Remember this is only my perspective which is just one of many that all can coexist.

I would suggest newbies to focus more on the excitement the club generates seeing so many girls dressed to the nines available. If you are focusing on many 9's or 10's available, you may be disappointed. It is YMMV, partly depending on your taste. The pictures are valuable. You can find girls Anaggie posted in Scandallo, that I agree.

The price is quite high but I think you should not let that stop you if she can deliver. 10 by definition is hard to find already and you may end up paying something similar if you go the Scandallo route.

Will I want to see her now? probably not. The problem with many girls is that they can easily ruin their image once they open their mouth. The locals were saying she was trans or her pictures were from a trans, so she got offended but she talked too much for my taste

[QUOTE=Rextor;2623363]Is this really that big a concern for you folks? I've never landed in a foreign country with more than a hundred USD. Schwab refunds ATM withdrawals, so carrying cash just seems like a pain in the ass. Our modern digital banking system is designed to make international commerce as easy as possible. I have been locked out of my account before, but a phone call has always been able to clear it up. I did forget my debit card in the ATM on multiple instances though, and that was a pain in the ass. Had to have Schwab overnight it internationally. I could see that being a problem, but was able to survive just fine with my credit cards.[/QUOTE]Excellent advice. This is how I operate abroad as well. This currency issue and the Schwab solution specifically have been discussed periodically.

There are always a few guys who operate in cash businesses where they basically take untaxed cash out of their safe and pay for their vacation. Then there are those who just like operating in cash and don't want to rely on the electronic money system. They latter have stated their case here before.

A buddy sent me these pics of the renovations going on inside Casarao.
They may be from their website.
Not sure.

Hopefully to open soon!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2623693]A buddy sent me these pics of the renovations going on inside Casarao.
They may be from their website.
Not sure.

Hopefully to open soon![/QUOTE]Reopening is happening this week on 11/11 per their IG at casaraoaugustaoficial.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2622447]
The club have room on site but it won't be available until next week. This is what the girl told me. The girl took me to a nearby motel and we spent a couple of hours there. The room has a jacuzzi and the cost is R350, not cheap, but I got to spent more time with the girl. With room service the total is about 500. We took the taxi from the club and the same taxi was there waiting for us to come out.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Good to know they are open now. I plan to visit during my next trip.

Why motel? Is taking girl back to your hotel / place not an option?

I will be glad to see casaro again.

I took a prive girl there who wanted to rate her ass against those of the asses on offer there.

Thanks for the information.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2623693]A buddy sent me these pics of the renovations going on inside Casarao.
They may be from their website.
Not sure.

Hopefully to open soon![/QUOTE]

This is going to be a long post as this will summarize my 8 day stay in SP back in September. Never had a chance to sit down and write down my adventures but it's long overdue. Shout out to all the posters who post daily on their trips. I can never seem to do that.

This report will offer some tips and some insights as well as locations but since it's been two months it won't be as complete but none the less very informative.

So before I even started my voyage to the land of Don Pedro the II I met some forum members that were going on the same dates as I was and it really made a world of difference. We all got along very well and following some of their insights and intel I was able to procure a very interesting trip with one girl in particular. The great thing about having buddies with you is you get more intel and insight than you can ever get by yourself. See which house is open, how many girls and so on. My last trip I went solo and although it was very fun I definitely enjoyed having some company especially in the boates. Makes the waiting go by faster for sure.

CASH.

So I exchanged $300 USD to reals back home before I boarded and it's not really necessary. There are ATMs at GRU where you can take cash out (2500 BRL x2) and that's enough to get you into the city and look for other ATMs if you need more but honestly you really shouldn't unless you are doing an orgy or getting overcharged by a girl. Brazil unlike other countries (UK, Spain, Germany, Canada) is very card friendly. All the houses and boates accept card although yes some charge like a 5% card fee but I think it's a non issue given the exchange rate. Some online girls also have a card charging machine as well so really different from other countries. Of course some of us don't want charges to show up on card statements so I understand that. Used Uber with card payments. Never had an issue using my card. Always good to carry some BRL in cash on hand though.

TESTING.

So my flight left on a Wednesday 9 PM and I got my PCR test Sunday 8:43 PM and they wouldn't allow me on the plane because it was off by 17 minutes from the 72 HR timeframe. Luckily I was able to get a quick 1 HR PCR test at the airport but just barely made it. Really dumb but it happens frequently apparently so I'd advise coming 2-3 HRs early so you don't run into that issue.

LOCATION and SAFETY.

Landing in SP I met up with one poster and we rode into the city early in the morning ready to pillage. I got a place in Republica area which I would advise you not to do. The area can be very sketchy, the nearby park is full of streetwalkers (not my thing), drunks fighting and many more debauchery. There are some really nice condos in that area but it just doesn't seem to be worth the hassle. Alot of the girls I brought over were hesitant to step out the car until I came out to let them in and many mentioned that the area is sort of dangerous. I did almost get my phone stole while trying to get a drink at night. Be wary of people on bikes as they seem to be the ones that will try to grab your phones. Get pants with pocket zippers and try to get a lanyard or something attached to your phone to your person so someone can't jut grab it out of your hand. It's also a little far from the action of the clinicas and boates and online girls. Best locations seem to be Brooklin, Jardims, Moema. Very safe and much closer to the action. Another word of advice is to always make sure you let other people know you are aware of their presence. No one will try to mess with you if they know you see them. Brazilian muggers always target the unsuspecting. Easy prey. Do your Google Map searches in stores or at least keep your ass to the wall. Barcelona which is known as the pickpocket capital of the world, is also not that bad. I had no issues and like Brazil it seems they target drunks or clueless tourists. People are very friendly here and I would walk all over in day or night and didn't have any issues.

1ST DAY.

I'll start with my first day as I know that best but the rest will just be a rundown more or less.

Started clinica hopping in the afternoon.

Started with a very small one named Congonahs that is this blue building. Kinda far away from the main ones. Only had 4 girls and the best one was already taken so I didn't session. Never went back but it looks kinda promising. Mostly 28+ women so good for someone looking for a more mature girl rather than the standard 21 yr old.

Then I went to Abbobora which is still my top place. There were many girls. About 11-13. I sessioned with a girl named sofia and she was very good. I believe she was part Venezuelan so she spoke Spanish which helped. Got her Whatsapp and went to get some lunch with my fellow forum poster and talked about our sessions as he went to house 57.

We both had decent sessions but nothing to brag home about just yet. I had booked an online girl a week before I arrived in SP and so I had to go and get ready for this girl since she was the one I was eagerly waiting for. Of course she was about an hour late, even with timely reminders and messages but when she arrived she was exactly what I wanted and traveled 9 hours for! Lets call her Harley.

She was a young white redhead german-brazilian from Porto Alegre. Feisty sex addict girl with a heart of gold. A real Madonna with horns. Session was incredible and she ended up staying way past her hour to keep me company. Very GFE, as one poster stated, these girls act like ambassadors of Brazil to foreigners! One of the main reason I would bestow Brazil as the top destination for mongering is this very reason. I liked the girls in Barcelona and Montreal but you wouldn't ever get this type of GFE over there. I would later learn this was only the beginning. I jokingly asked her if she wanted to go to RJ with me in 10 days and she said she would think about it and gave me her personal number.

After she left I ended up going to Scandallo with the other forum posters after 8 pm. I was showing the new guy the ropes and we ate some dinner while looking at the talent. The club area was open but doesn't get started until after 10. A good amount of girls but nothing crazy. Maybe like 80. I saw lots of girls I sessioned with from my last trip there and they all greeted me warmly. I found it funny how they remembered me right away but I guess I'll just leave that to my performance kkkk.

Between my first and last trip which was about 7 months or so I did about 15-30 minutes of Portuguese duolingo practice and it really paid off. I am already quite fluent in Spanish so that helped and to be fair it was more of a porto-nol than porto but it helped immensely. Spanish is similar but not close enough to porto so you can't just rely on your spanish to carry you. I'd be like saying you can understand italian because you speak spanish since they are from the same language tree. Some words are similar but it quickly deviates. Read some posters talk about it. You can always use Google Translate of course, its your best friend, but I was able to quickly put most girls at ease and get her away from her business mode.

I ended up sessioning with a brunette after waiting around for some time. Total was 600 BRL + 230 BRL for the room. Entrance was 400 BRL. It was great session as she had the best bunda and was a horny drunk. Unfortunately she was a one pump and dump girl so that really lackluster.

The girls are scandallo (at least in September) were really business sharks. Back in January I scored girls for 500 easily after some talk and drinks but this time around it was sales pitch to get these girls to 600. Some girls were at 1000 and stuck at 800. The new guy tried this asian girl but she wouldn't budge from 1000 and 4 other guys did the same and left her. It seemed to be a bit common with others. Seems like these girls were trying to score big but ended up losing more in the long run. Was a different vibe from January. With Scandallo being the only big close boate in town (connection was a DRIVE) I guess these girls got smart. For some this upcharge isn't that big of deal as 200 or 300 reals is like 40 or 60 USD but it does change the dynamics a bit.

Now I'll get to doing a rundown of 10 days with specifics and then a more detailed report of my first Brazilian Super GFE.

CLINICAS.

All these Clinicas are around 230-260 BRL for 1 HR for one girl and 350-420 BRL for 1 HR for two girls.

Some offer 1/2 HRs but I never do those so not sure the pricing and which ones but was something like 150 BRL or so.

They all accept cards and you get a discount using cash of course.

Add their numbers and message them to add you to their whatsapp so you can get updates.

You can get the girls whatsapp and negotiate a good pernoite or longer session for much cheaper than boate girls.

CL Moema Prime.

I would actually put this in tie with Abbobora! The girls here are really sensual and they always do updates on their whatsapp and the lady at the reception is super friendly and always does her best to try to get you a time with the girl of your choice! I was running late for a 3 some and she was able to move some time around so I got the full hour. Girls here get booked quite often so if you have a girl in mind it's always good to book thru whatsapp or in person ahead of time. There's usually 8 girls or so in rotation and what's a bit strange is that they'll bring out girls who are already booked during the presentation. Several times I was told the girl I wanted already had an appointment which sucked. I guess it's good in a way as you are now aware this girl exists instead of never seeing her in the first place so you can book her later. I sessioned 4 times here and was always satisfied. Other thing is that there seems to be a lack of available rooms sometimes so you have to wait until a clean room is ready. I always went to the same room which was odd.

CL ABBOBORA.

My favorite place with lots of girls in rotation. I sessioned here 3 times and had a great time except for one girl that was just mediocre. Lots of hot girls and clean good beds although I would mention the bed isn't a traditional one. It's more of a low flat massage bed. Big mirror on the side is a plus. Kinda like yoga mat or so but better. So for taller guys it can be hard to do some positions with a bed like that.

CL ENJOY SPA.

I sessioned here once but liked it very much! Their bed is exactly like Abbobora but with one mirror in front of the bed. I forget the name of the girl I sessioned with but she looked like a emma watson type with braces. Really hot and shy but very sensual. I'm really into GND types (I'm into all kinds tbh but that's my main) and she was just right. Enjoy Spa is across the highway from the other clinicas so it's a bit of a ways out but can be promising.

CL HOUSE 57.

This place is like a mini daytime boate. The girls are all hanging out in the resturante area so there is no need for a presentation although you can ask for one. Theres two bar areas and a main hall to eat and play some pool. Really lowkey and you can talk and interact with the girls to get a vibe before sessioning. Different concept for sure from the other places. I went twice but never sessioned as I never found a type I liked. The receptionist was very friendly and spoke great english and at night after 8 pm it becomes a boate where girls from the other aforementioned boates come and party. Never went to the late night party but heard it can be good and a low cost alternative. Have to check it out as I liked the layout and concept and all the girls were very friendly.

CL Lotus Lounge.

This place is a 15 min drive away from all the other clinicas. They use an Ipad with all the available girls pics and info for you to chose like CL Carinas. I went twice but there were only 5 girls both times I went although they had 20 girls in their rooster. Hard to tell if it would be a good session since you never see the girl before. I was going to try and session the 2nd try just to report back but the girl I wanted got booked before I could book her. They seem to have good reviews so could be a good place and would advise anyone to try it and report back. They have a little shrine to a cat next to their front door which I found a bit funny. RIP Lotus Cat.

All in All, the clinicas are good day time fun with good performance but nothing really spectacular this time around. Clinica girls do a good performance but GFE isn't quite there as they are constantly with other guys especially locals so it's not as satisfying at least for me. I did meet a really chill clinica girl last time I was here but didn't get her number so missed out.

BOATES.

SCANDALLO.

What can I say that hasn't been said already.

It's changed since I came in Jan. They redid the whole club area and made it more modern look instead of a 90's american club that it looked like before. It looks great and looks like they want to cater to more high rollers and club goers. The entrance fee was 400. It was 300 in Jan. The vibe is a bit different as the girls like I said before were more cunning and werent just flirty back and forth and having a good time. To be fair, that could just be the girls I was into so YMMV but that seemed to be the vibe I was getting. I went 3 times to Scandallo and sessioned 2 of the 3 times. Both for 600 and really good sessions but nothing mind blowing. The last time I went the cover was 800! They had a famous brazilian band come play that night and I decided to go that night just to see what it'd look like since lots of girls were pouring in. I got there at 8 pm and the band didn't play til 11 pm so it was getting more full as the night went on. That day I would say there was 200+ girls but lots of guys too. As soon as the band started playing all the girls left the smoking and resturante area and went to the club area and went to dance. It was packed but it did seem like not many people were going to the rooms. There was a famous Brazilian TikToker that was there with his GF and friends so it does look like they want to bring some more regular high spenders to the club not just mongers. I didn't session that night as it was too crazy and the girls were charging more that night than before. I left and came back later but they had an issue with their system so I wasn't allowed back in which was BS.

I think Scandallo is still one of the top places you can go to find some quality girls as some of my fellow forum posters that were with me bagged a legit model, a doctor in training and fitness instructor. Some girls only come here because the barrier to entrance deters your average brazilian men and so there is some anonymity for them. So you can find some really high class girls or even GND that just need to money. There's just about a girl for anyone here. I'll always come here on my visits but it'd be smart to come before 8 pm to get the 200 entrance and then return after 11 when the club is open and more girls are in. Wish their rooms had better mirrors.

BOMBOA.

A small club across from lotus club. It's really classy looking and there's two stories. It does seem like once you get there and sit down they expect you to just sit and watch the girls walk around. Walking around and looking at the girls seems to not be normal as one other poster mentioned. It's a bit dark and the live band can be kind of loud. The girls here were pretty hot and came twice. I sessions once and it was a good experience with good BBBJ. The room is a bit plain. There's a shower in the room and a nice big mirror in front of the bed. Entrance was 200 but all consumable. Girls were like 400-600. Room was another 200 I think. So just a bit cheaper than scandallo. It's an okay place but nothing to boast about. I did see one girl I wanted to session on my 2nd trip but she was taken before I could talk to her. The girls here are very chill and some will sit down and try to talk but won't try to sell. Very lowkey and worth checking out.

CONNECTIONS.

This place is FAR! It's about an hour drive or so from the Moema area and I had a hard time trying to get an Uber to go there! I even tried Uber Black and had to wait 25 minutes until I could secure a ride. Getting a ride back was also a challenge. It's a bit of a journey. Entrance was pretty cheap like 100 BRL and girls were like 500-600 BRL with rooms going at 200 or so and they look exactly like the ones in Scandallo. The girls here are a bit more party orientated and it's kinda nice to see these girls moves before. The live band is kinda loud but you can always go to the restaurant area for some less noise. I sessioned twice here and the quality of girls here are pretty nice. There were some older women like 30+ and not many like scandallo but a good amount of hotties. I went with one girl who looked like a mini Vanessa Hudgens and a girl who was TV presenter. Both really hot with great service! Food is pretty good here too. There's one waiter named Michael who speaks great english was good at bringing girls over and helping out. I would have never gone here if the other forum posters didn't come and I actually liked it alot. It's not something I would do everynight but it's definitely worth the travel I believer if you have time.

OLINE GIRLS.

I didn't have much success with online girls this time around. I set up a few before I arrived and most fell apart or never responded.

The two I did get were late so it's always best to book them an hour early than you want them if you're on a schedule. It can be annoying and one of forum poster almost missed his flight because of it.

I did have this problem where some girls wanted some of the payment thru PIX or Pic-Pay which I couldn't do since I'm not brazilian and don't have a CPF. Anyone have a solution to this? I had to skip some girls because of this.

Bringing girls over your AirBnB or Hotel isn't really an issue if you booked your place for two guests. If a hotel tries to charge you, you should tell them about your 2nd guest and they'll back off. Of course it also depends on what your girl is wearing. If she's nicely dressed most places won't stop you.

My Airbnb I had to let me host know ahead of time of my guest so they can tell the security or give them their info when they arrive. That can be annoying but these girls know the drill.

FINALLY FOR THE GRAND FINALE.

After my first time with Harley I decided to book her for a pernoite. Funny enough I saw her at Scandallo 3 hours after our first visit, so I wonder how much she upcharges over there. I never did a pernoite the first time I was in Brazil and decided she seem cool enough. She wanted 1500 but she easily accepted 1000. Could have probably gotten her down to 800 but I really think she was worth 1000.

Following the strategy of a friend back home I decided to make this night a bit special. I rushed around to find a flower shop and bought her a bouquet of roses. It was like 150 BRL for a dozen fresh roses which is super cheap. She was 1 HR late as usual for online girls. As soon as entered my condo I surprised her with the flowers and she was swooned. Her GFE went up a peg. We had some great fun and she was ready to just continue until we couldn't any longer but I had other plans. There's a really nice restaurant in republica named Terraço Italia which is on the 45th floor and gives you amazing views of the city at night. I told her to bring a nice dress but her dress had a hole in it, was bright pink, was short and she wasn't wearing any panties or bra. This place was an upscale place so we made a quick trip to the mall to get her dressed up LOL straight from there we went to the restaurant and enjoyed a nice dinner that cost about 600 BRL. The same dinner back home would be like $200 so it was good value. They had a musician play piano all night and it was definitely the most fanciest place she had been to for sure. Once we entered my room she was ready to pay it forward. I lost count how many times we went at it but I do remember we ran out of condoms. We fell asleep very late and when I woke up it was a sight to behold. She woke up very late around 11 AM which I would later find out was normal if not early for her.

I got her an uber and scheduled another pernoite which she was happily looking forward to.

The 2nd time around was actually my last night in SP.

She came around 6 pm and we had some quick fun before we left for dinner. I'm a big food big and with the cheap prices and great cuisine I would go out every night. This time around we went to Figueira Rubaiyat. Cool restaurant with a giant tree in the middle of the place. Great selection of meats! 600 BRL in total. We both noticed a bunch of desserts with sparklers coming out of the kitchen. I went to the waiter and told him to do the same for my girl. After our dinner he brought out the dessert and she was losing her mind. She loved it and it only cost 30 BRL and some basic porto. She was ready to do anything as soon as we got back. My condo has a shared balcony and I told her jokingly we should fuck out there and she said sure with a mischievous smile. Theres a sort of transparent glass that separates the balcony from my neighbor so they could see us but she didn't care and she didn't lower her noise level either. She just wanted to get fucked. Such a different attitude from the online girl I had last trip who was worried someone from the building way across from us could see us thru the window LOL. After that I told her I wanted to make a sex video with her and she said lets do it! So I brought out my camera equipment and she took directions and posed for the camera the entire time! This girl was such a freak and even after all that she was still ready to go for more. I had truly met my match that night! Before I past out from exhaustion I asked her if she was down to go to rio with me since I was leaving in the afternoon. She said no problem and we settled for 5 days since I was going to be in RJ for 10 and I wanted some variety after she left. Booked her a flight that was leaving in 8 hours. She got up to go get packed and leave. No money was exchanged for the pernoite and no talk about money about the trip to RJ. She was just happy to go since she never left SP. Although it seemed a little weird to wine and dine this girl since she was ready to fuck, these little extra steps really help secure a better GFE experience than I ever had and since I was to have her for 5 nights for just a flight ticket it actually saved me money to do all of this. Maybe I was super lucky. Doesn't hurt I'm young as well and our chemistry was great at the first meet. I wouldn't advise to do something like this on your first trip (depends on your chemistry of course, always trust your instincts) but with my good porto and she actually spoke good spanish and english it was a good set up. She was very carefree and she never asked for anything or said / did anything to annoy me unlike most girls I've met. Like another poster said, after a few hours these girls destroy themselves by talking about the dumbest things. Most of the girls in SP that I session with I enjoyed my time but afterwards they would say some really weird and crazy thoughts they had. I just could never see myself putting up with that for so long. I always heard about the ultimate brazilian GFE experience and I found it funny how I found it in SP since the girls here are so business oriented (little did I know this was nothing until I reached Rio).

I guess some good tip would be to wine and dine a girl you really can get along with. Everything here is really cheap in comparison to the US so really good value. After you do, they'll do anything you want. At the end of the day these girls are girls and they love to be spoiled. But I would say spoil them with things like experiences that you both can enjoy. Like a dinner or night out or something like that. I always made sure to not buy her anything like jewelry or something like that. Some girls can change after that and will expect gifts like that and can ruin them. They'll look at you as ATM machine instead of the guy to have fun with. There's a fine line for sure. Most brazilian guys don't do any of this stuff and most can't afford to even if they wanted so you'd be surprise how easy it is to swoon these girls. It pays in dividends and I was about to see how much it was going to pay out.

I'll continue my Saga in the RJ Forum ​.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2624681](little did I know this was nothing until I reached Rio).

I guess some good tip would be to wine and dine a girl you really can get along with. Everything here is really cheap in comparison to the US so really good value. After you do, they'll do anything you want. At the end of the day these girls are girls and they love to be spoiled. But I would say spoil them with things like experiences that you both can enjoy. Like a dinner or night out or something like that. I always made sure to not buy her anything like jewelry or something like
I'll continue my Saga in the RJ Forum.[/QUOTE]Great report. We have very similar taste!

I have had great experiences with online. You mentioned you didn't have much luck with many others but your GF Harley was an online girl. I love redheads before Brazil and real reds are not unusual in SP. Maybe that's why I love it so much. A lot of girls, whether online and in the clinicas Or boates, are much more GFE if you do a second or more sessions with them and you take them back to your place. I have only done one Very nice pernoite, usually I get them for two hours at my place. You and other posters have had amazing amazing experiences with weekend long or Multi day trips arrangements. I may have to try it out. Though I really like the variety each day, I usually session with 3 to 4 different girls each day. Sticking just one girl seems too wtoo GF And my Porto skills are bad so I just think communications would be too strained for a whole trip. On point with your description of the different boates, and I can't wait to try photo and Cascaro (sp?) next time also. Connections during the pandemic was a fun party place, though have to see when back to non COVID times.

I also been to the terrace Italian rooftop restaurant. One of the Scandallo girls recommended that we go and it was a classy date. Hahaha. The girls do appreciate nice restaurants and clubs. And do not pay girls a fee to go for food or drinks! I tell the girls that I will take them and pay for the food and drinks and it's for fun. If we have sex, I will pay for sex time only. Most girls will take you up on the offer.

Hi,

I don't know Brazil at all and I would like to ask 2 questions.

1) How easy is it to fuck regular girls (non pro 18-26 yo) for an old good looking European (65 yo)? How much money do they expect for ST and overnight?

2) I know that the "Brazilian real" has been devalued a lot, so I would like to know if Brazil has become very cheap to live and fuck there for a month as a tourist.

Thank you for your info.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2624681]This is going to be a long post ...[/QUOTE]Thanks for taking the time to write a great report.

I like and have wrote about Republica area. I did not stay in this area but I visit this area in all hours. I came to monger and also for the food, culture and the people. This area is dirty, many homeless, can feel unsafe and it probably is compare to other areas. But if one is a food person with similar taste to me, this area should not be missed. Just to name a few, it has the best 24 hours lanchonete and sandwich place I have been to. One waiter here is so used to me that he would tell me what is not available before I order it. I enjoy sitting with the locals and see what they eat and how they eat so I can repeat the next time. It has a one Michelin star restaurant which costs less than 150 R instead of 500 R to 1000 R that I also had elsewhere. It also has a very modern and unique bar in a dungeon in a museum. The first time I went to this bar, the door person, waiter, bar tender and the guests sit on both sides on me all spoke English. I have been to other upscale bars but people are not as friendly and it was boring. If interested, these places can be found easily on google map.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2624223]..

Why motel? Is taking girl back to your hotel / place not an option?[/QUOTE]I am probably too cautious. Mainly because I don't want to deal with the inconvenience losing stuff might cause in my situation. I am also curios about the motel.

(This is going to be a long post as this will summarize my 8 day stay in SP back in September. Never had a chance to sit down and write down my adventures but it's long overdue. Shout out to all the posters who post daily on their trips. I can never seem to do that.).

Great post. These are the kind I come here for. I need intel for the ground and too many folks post crap under reports that have nothing to do with the trip intel which makes it hard to navigate the pages looking for updated info. I appreciate your time, and please keep it up. I was there in Sept too. Had a good time. At first I was not pressed to return but you hyped me up. I just want pre-covid atmosphere so I will wait a little.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2624681]I'll continue my Saga in the RJ Forum.[/QUOTE]Amazing report. I am very much looking forward to reading about your adventures in Rio. Thank you for sharing.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2624681]We both had decent sessions but nothing to brag home about just yet. I had booked an online girl a week before I arrived in SP and so I had to go and get ready for this girl since she was the one I was eagerly waiting for. Of course she was about an hour late, even with timely reminders and messages but when she arrived she was exactly what I wanted and traveled 9 hours for! Lets call her Harley.

She was a young white redhead german-brazilian from Porto Alegre. Feisty sex addict girl with a heart of gold. A real Madonna with horns. Session was incredible and she ended up staying way past her hour to keep me company. Very GFE, as one poster stated, these girls act like ambassadors of Brazil to foreigners! One of the main reason I would bestow Brazil as the top destination for mongering is this very reason. I liked the girls in Barcelona and Montreal but you wouldn't ever get this type of GFE over there. I would later learn this was only the beginning. I jokingly asked her if she wanted to go to RJ with me in 10 days and she said she would think about it and gave me her personal number.[/QUOTE]Bearsi,

Great report! Thanks on the clinica intel.

I'm curious. Is "Harley" an escort that advertises on-line? (I realize that you made up that name.) If so, perhaps we can ask you to divulge her website. These girls need the business and we guys could use reliable escort contacts.

Fresh off a broken heart, I decided that there was no better place to spend my time than Sau Paulo. And so far, I've been proven correct!

There was no question about where I would spend my first night. Scandallo. This is Formula 1 week, which is supposed to be pretty much peak Scandallo, so I didn't want to miss it. On Wednesday night, it was absolutely packed, way way busier than it was on any of my previous visits. In addition to it being F1 week, there was also a famous live Brazilian band performance that night, which made it extra crowded. Furthermore, the entry fee was 800 of which 300 was consumption. I wonder if it's going to be like that all F1 week, or just because of the concert.

Inside, as I said, absolutely packed. Tons of dudes and girls. There had to have been about 300 girls that night. I remember standing in the back outdoor patio and quickly losing count of all the chicks. As usual, the majority of girls I wouldn't have paid to fuck. In fact, I would say there were many more chunky types than I saw before, but that just might be because there were more women in general. But rest assured, there were many many hotties as well.

This time around I was a bit more proactive and I was moving around, walking, and trying to chat with girls I liked rather than having them come by me. Well, I was kinda forced to haha because there was not a single table available for people who were not buying bottles. I like the proactive approach, it's like I'm on the hunt. It still wasn't easy though. The girls are often on the move which makes it very easy to lose track of them. I was eyeing this one girl but she quickly disappeared to another room with her friend. I decided to risk the creepy vibe by following her, but she had disappeared. Oh well.

I finally bagged my classic Brazilian blonde, a tall one from German stock who claims to only have started at Scandallo 3 days ago. I did get a bit of a business-like vibe from her, namely she wasn't super flirty / close to me, and asked me if I wanted to go to the room (I usually broach that subject with the girls, not the other way around). But I was determined that I just had to have a hot blonde tonight, and I was letting her get away. And fortunately, she gave a very solid performance in the room. Great kissing, BBBJ, no BS. I have yet to be disappointed at Scandallo. Money-wise, she opened negotiations at 1500, I countered with 600, then 800, and then we settled on 1000.

Total damage was 500 entry + 300 consumption + 250 ish for the room + 1000 for the girl = 2050 BRL = 380 USD. It's a bit expensive, but whatever. You know what you're getting yourself into when you come here.

The next day, Thursday afternoon, I decided to head out to the clinicas again. I wanted to give them another shot, because the last time I came was during a holiday week. There were more chicks this time, but my assessment of the clinicas remains the same. It's just not the right setup for me. First of all, there simply are not that many hot women. Across Abbobora, Miruna, and Prime I only saw maybe 2 or 3 that I would consider picking. And with such little opportunity to build any chemistry, really only looking at them for 10 seconds during the presentation, and being stone cold sober (I guess that one's my fault haha), I really did not feel the vibes. I picked a girl at Abbobora, but I just had absolutely no desire to put my P in her V, even though she was pretty cute. I would have been ok with just a BJ, but after going for a while she wasn't amazing and I had mentally checked out. So I called it a day, and decided to save my masculine essences for the upcoming night at Scandallo. Waste of 260 BRL (Abbobora does not have a half hour option), but it's less than 50 USD so I'm not too concerned.

So yeah, I think I'll pretty much just stick with Scandallo. I want to check out Bomboa and Cafe Photo, but I'm nervous about wasting any of the precious few nights I'm here. I'll probably go there on an off-day, maybe Friday or Saturday. I also want to try out some online escorts from Twitter / Clubmodel / SPlove.

With 2 million people of Japanese descent in São Paulo, I thought there would be more Japanese working girls. I am Asian and Japanese looking enough that the locals always think I live there and even ask me for directions on the street. I looked on my last trip and found very few Japanese girls even online. And a bunch of them are fake Japanese. Even on the local forum, guys have asked and very few responses. I would like there would be Japanese clinicas or prives, maybe they are a hidden secret for just the locals like some Chinese only massage parlors in Flushing New York. Maybe I can get in since I can pass off as Japanese. Hahaha. Not sure if anybody here knows. Much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2625003] There were more chicks this time, but my assessment of the clinicas remains the same. It's just not the right setup for me. First of all, there simply are not that many hot women. Across Abbobora, Miruna, and Prime I only saw maybe 2 or 3 that I would consider picking.
So yeah, I think I'll pretty much just stick with Scandallo. I want to check out Bomboa and Cafe Photo, but I'm nervous about wasting any of the precious few nights I'm here. I'll probably go there on an off-day, maybe Friday or Saturday. I also want to try out some online escorts from Twitter / Clubmodel / SPlove.[/QUOTE]I always feel like the clinicas don't get enough love here on ISG. I do want to preface with what I am about to say with this: if you are in the mindset of fucking nothing but model type girls in SP, then Scandallo is the route to go. Period. But if you have the time and patience and don't mind fucking GFE 7's then the clinicas are a great choice.

Although Abbobora, Prime, and Miruna are 3 of the more popular clinicas among us gringos, they are just the tip of the iceberg. By my rough estimate, I say there are at least 70 clinicas + prives in the city of SP alone. There are also numerous clinicas + prives in the surrounding cities of Santo Andre, SBC, Guarulhos, Osasco, etc. Lets just be conservative and say each one has an average of 5 girls in their lineup, then you are looking at 350 girls. I've stayed in SP for 6 months last year. And to me, although Prime had a decent if not consistent lineup, it was top heavy IMO. Miruna's lineup was bad every time I visited it. I don't know about Abbobora since I never visited it. I was visiting 3-5 clinicas everyday, mostly ones rarely visited by us gringos, and I almost always found someone I liked. There were many days where I had a hard time choosing which ones to visit. I will be objective and say that the majority of the clinica girls are 6 or below (face). About 0 (rare) - 5 (at each clinica) in the range of 7, 0 - 2 in the range of 8. As for 9's, I would say I probably sessioned with 5 in total. So the clinica route will definitely be a grind if you want to find the 8's and above. Broaden your horizon and go explore a bit. I promise you will be positively surprised. One of the gems on my last trip was Clinica Morengo in Tatuape. I had more sessions there than any other clinicas. They have closed down now but they moved to a new address with a new name, Clinica Diamente. Other clinicas worth visiting that are outside of the city are Clinica Nova Campestre and CLínica Prime (formerly Manhattan) in Santo Andre, and CLínica Mansão Elite in SBC. I even bumped into several girls who worked in SP at these clinicas.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2625811]With 2 million people of Japanese descent in So Paulo, I thought there would be more Japanese working girls. ...[/QUOTE]I found a small cluster on twitter so you can start from there.

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2625812]I always feel like the clinicas don't get enough love here on ISG. I do want to preface with what I am about to say with this: if you are in the mindset of fucking nothing but model type girls in SP, then Scandallo is the route to go. Period. But if you have the time and patience and don't mind fucking GFE 7's then the clinicas are a great choice.[/QUOTE]I like what you say about the clinicas. It's just that everybody's optics scale is different. For me, the clinicas are overwhelmingly 6's and down. Yes, you can find some 7's which is my minimum, but too many of the clinica girls just don't meet my optics standards. I'm much happier going to the nightclubs or using a [B]reliable[/B] online source (there are a handful).

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2625811]With 2 million people of Japanese descent in So Paulo, I thought there would be more Japanese working girls. I am Asian and Japanese looking enough that the locals always think I live there and even ask me for directions on the street. I looked on my last trip and found very few Japanese girls even online. And a bunch of them are fake Japanese. Even on the local forum, guys have asked and very few responses. I would like there would be Japanese clinicas or prives, maybe they are a hidden secret for just the locals like some Chinese only massage parlors in Flushing New York. Maybe I can get in since I can pass off as Japanese. Hahaha. Not sure if anybody here knows. Much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the wealthiest people in Brazil are the Japanese so Japanese women do not need to provide sexual relief to make a living. That being said I have banged two Japanese working girls in Brazil, one in Miruna and another in Tangara.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2626049]Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the wealthiest people in Brazil are the Japanese so Japanese women do not need to provide sexual relief to make a living. That being said I have banged two Japanese working girls in Brazil, one in Miruna and another in Tangara.[/QUOTE]Just curious if they work at the high end for Japanese tourists (although maybe high-end Japanese tourists don't go to Brazil).

There was an escort who used to tour Chicago every month or two, but lived in Las Vegas, who had a Japanese mom and a Brazilian dad. She spoke English, Portuguese and Japanese.

Really hot girl and a great fuck.

She told me she just saw Japanese customers in Las Vegas. She did not advertise but instead built up a relationship with concierge guys and serviced Japanese "whales" at a really high price per hour. She worked under a completely different name when touring other cities, so as not too damage her brand.

I hadn't realized that the two countries have a lot of connections until I met her.

I was also amused when I went to Thailand about how a few places marketed themselves almost exclusively to the Japanese, but maybe that has changed.

Why are wealthy Japanese guys willing to pay more for perceived exclusivity?

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2626053]Why are wealthy Japanese guys willing to pay more for perceived exclusivity?[/QUOTE]My impression from SE Asia is that Japanese businessmen like a certain style of courtesan. This courtesan style might be an extension of the Japanese geisha.

I'm sure you are familiar with KTV girls (K=Karoake) in SE Asia. It seems like the Japanese men like the company and entertainment of the girls more than any sexual dalliance later. It wouldn't surprise me if a KTV joint with girls for hire exists in Sao Paulo.

As far as two million of Japanese descent in Sao Paulo? I think that number is expanded by fractional representation. They're are a lot of Paulistas with a quarter or eighth Japanese heritage. You can spend an afternoon in Liberdade having sushi and exploring the Japanese shops. There are some cute Japanese girls who the younger members can chat up.

That leads me to Brazilian=Japanese escorts. You will see a few escorts with some Asian features advertising their Asian ethnicity. While many of them are attractive, most of them do not look 100% Asian. For the Asian connoisseur, the advantage of Brazil is you can find an escort with Asian looks and Brazilian curves.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2626103]As far as two million of Japanese descent in Sao Paulo?[/QUOTE]This article says 1.5 million. It's about 4 years old though, so 2 million isn't so much of an unreasonable stretch I don't think. Anyway, as the article says, more Japanese people live in Brazil than in any other part of the world, save Japan itself. I have never seen a Japanese working girl in Brazil. But then again, I have never looked for any either.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2626154]This article says 1.5 million. It's about 4 years old though, so 2 million isn't so much of an unreasonable stretch I don't think. Anyway, as the article says, more Japanese people live in Brazil than in any other part of the world, save Japan itself. I have never seen a Japanese working girl in Brazil. But then again, I have never looked for any either.[/QUOTE]Sorry, here's the article: [URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-42859249[/URL].

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2626103]That leads me to Brazilian=Japanese escorts. You will see a few escorts with some Asian features advertising their Asian ethnicity. While many of them are attractive, most of them do not look 100% Asian. For the Asian connoisseur, the advantage of Brazil is you can find an escort with Asian looks and Brazilian curves.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. The Japanese Brazilian working girls who I have seen on twitter and in the clinicas are almost all mixed ethnicities, which can be nice. I also seen 1 or 2 full Japanese looking girls in Scandallo. I heard that the Japanese community in SP can be pretty closed knit and it is a highest economic class in SP. I heard the owner of Dcandallo is Japanese Brazilian. But sex is sold in every community. I bet is there are Japanese only clinicas or geisha clubs that are very premium (I. E. Expensive) and probably not even open to other Brazilians and not advertised. My guess is the only way to know where is a personal invitation by a local Japanese Brazilian regular. My Porto is too poor to ask. If anybody knows, DM me and I will paid you back in any Intel I have. Anyways, I go to SP for the whitest red heads, but I do have a second fetish for Japanese girls. Ok, maybe third place, after dark hair Romanian beauties. Hahaha.

I've literally been just going to Scandallo every day this week. I decided that I would take Sunday and Monday to rest a bit. My liver, sleep schedule, and wallet can only take so much. F1 week seems to have pushed Scandallo to the max. On Friday there was hardly any room to move, and the on-site rooms had a two-hour wait. I ended up just taking my girl back to my hotel that night. On Saturday there was about a 15 minute wait. I didn't go back on Sunday, even though the club was open for the actual F1 event. Regardless, I think a trip to Scandallo during F1 week is the mongering hajj, and I am planning on making the pilgrimage every year I can. You can't miss it.

There were a ton of girls but also a ton of guys. I think part of the fun of it is knowing that you could have any one of those girls, if you are in the right place at the right time. It's a real power trip, and in that sense just being in the club and watching all the women marching by is fun in and of itself. Obviously, not all the women are truly available all the time, as many of the most attractive ones will already be entertaining someone else. I've always showed up at around 10:30 PM, I want to experiment with coming in earlier and see if I can grab one of the mega-hotties before she's snapped up.

Regardless, I did end up going with the hot blonde on Wednesday, another MILFy tall blonde on Thursday, a spinner morena model on Friday (possibly the best experience at SP yet), and a tiny young half-Asian girl on Saturday. Every single one of them gave very good service. There are so many girls and such a wide variety that I've been playing a game. Within the first hour or so, I pick a theme for the night. Wed / Thurs it was tall blondes, Saturday it was young GND, and Friday was wildcard. Potential themes for next week include negra, redhead, and thicc girls only. Just to spice things up.

Just as a data point, a night at Scandallo with several drinks for myself, a few drinks for girls, and a one-hour on-site session typically runs me 300-400 USD. The delta there represents how much the girl charges. I've paid anywhere between 600 and 1000 BRL, averaging out to around 800 BRL. Maybe you can negotiate better than I did, but remember that every 100 BRL you negotiate down is just about 18 USD. You decide if that's worth it, especially if you are visiting from the US where you're not getting a 1 HR session with anyone halfway attractive for less than 400 USD an hour.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2626154] I have never seen a Japanese working girl in Brazil. But then again, I have never looked for any either.[/QUOTE]I had a non-memorable session with one on my first trip to SP last year. And plenty advertise on twitter and other forums.

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2625812]I always feel like the clinicas don't get enough love here on ISG. I do want to preface with what I am about to say with this: if you are in the mindset of fucking nothing but model type girls in SP, then Scandallo is the route to go. Period. But if you have the time and patience and don't mind fucking GFE 7's then the clinicas are a great choice.
[/QUOTE]This kind of debate is as old as humanity and will never end, however meaningless it is. People will always vouch for their personal preferences as the 'superior' choice, just human nature.

I think finding your sweet spot and having fun is the best option, read the rest of the reports for entertainment value.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2626154]This article says 1.5 million. It's about 4 years old though, so 2 million isn't so much of an unreasonable stretch I don't think. Anyway, as the article says, more Japanese people live in Brazil than in any other part of the world, save Japan itself. I have never seen a Japanese working girl in Brazil. But then again, I have never looked for any either.[/QUOTE]I've done two in Rio, one of which is among my absolute all-time favorites. Neither was native Carioca -- one from Sao Paulo and the other from Southern Brasil. Ironically, in Sao Paulo, with its much larger Japanese population, I've never encountered one.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2626027] I'm much happier going to the nightclubs or using a [B]reliable[/B] online source (there are a handful).[/QUOTE]Could you please provide a few of these [B]reliable[/B] online sources. My success rate with outcalls in SP is dismal.

In response to the clinicas post. I lost the quote.

Exactly. I have mentioned in my previous posts that I like the clinicas. But it's also the Long game. Value can't be beat. If you only have a few days probably I would do known online Girls from the reliable Websites, clubmodel, Mclass, private55 and Cross reference the girls to the local forum, gp-Guia, for reviews. For clinicas, My MO is get a flat in Moema. There are 5 clinicas within a 10 minutes walk and another 10 clinicas within 15 minutes Uber ride. Minimum of 100 girls. It's correct that most don't interest me. Probably 5 To 8 girls out of the 100 in my range of 7.5 to 9. Can't fuck them all in one day. You don't have to visit all of them each day. I look at the daily WhatsApp status photos to find which ones to visit. Sometimes, but often not, I would book an appt with a girl Via WhatsApp if I Have seen the girl before or the photos are particular hot, which is a gamble but It's only USD $30 to 50. I also sometimes ask if a particular girl is available now and head over to see her physically. Even if you have booked a girl, get there early to see the presentation before and stay after the session to see the presentation again to see if there any new girls, so I can connect which girls to the WhatsApp status photos. I have done really well with this. And almost all clinicas girls give very good service.

Those clinicas you mentioned are really far away from the center of action, I wouldn't recommend them if guys are new to SP. If the clinicas have WhatsApp's, I may try to book a girl to test them out and see if the long ride is worth it.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2626309]Could you please provide a few of these [B]reliable[/B] online sources. My success rate with outcalls in SP is dismal.[/QUOTE]Clubmodel, mclass, and private55 are reliable to the photos, which are more or less of the actual girl. Most of the photos are heavily photoshopped so also pay attention to the age, weight, dress size and Height listed. I like thin girls, so I don't go for girls who are close to 60 kg and above. This alone eliminates 60% of the girls for me. Good service is also not guaranteed. I mentioned this before, IMO in Brazil More money doesn't get you better chance of good service but does get you a larger pool of better looking girls.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2626309]Could you please provide a few of these [B]reliable[/B] online sources. My success rate with outcalls in SP is dismal.[/QUOTE]Well, here are a handful that I like for both Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro. I have used these and been quite satisfied overall:

[URL]https://www.private55.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://clubmodel.com.br/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.riosexsite.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.rioencontro.com.br/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/[/URL]

Just happened to see this one. Looks like she has some Asian in her. Even has some pics with what looks like a Japanese sword. She's pretty hot if you ask me. She's in Rio though:

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-roberta-kin[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2626053]J

Why are wealthy Japanese guys willing to pay more for perceived exclusivity?[/QUOTE]Because money is the ultimate gatekeeper. County clubs have high initiation fees and annual dues to KEEP OUT those who can't afford those initiation fees or dues. After a certain point, you stop thinking about what you CAN afford (because it gets boring and repetitive) and start savoring the things that others cannot.

[QUOTE=Drgn;2626676]Because money is the ultimate gatekeeper. County clubs have high initiation fees and annual dues to KEEP OUT those who can't afford those initiation fees or dues. After a certain point, you stop thinking about what you CAN afford (because it gets boring and repetitive) and start savoring the things that others cannot.[/QUOTE]I have no objection to anyone paying a market price, even if that particular market price is above the price of another market, even a neighborhood away.

But many Japanese often seem to want to exclude others from participating in their particular market, with some ladies realizing this and creating a specific and unique identity just for Japanese customers.

The Tokyo forum has examples of brothels that are for Japanese men only. It is one of the few countries where that happens.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2626707]I have no objection to anyone paying a market price, even if that particular market price is above the price of another market, even a neighborhood away.

But many Japanese often seem to want to exclude others from participating in their particular market, with some ladies realizing this and creating a specific and unique identity just for Japanese customers.

The Tokyo forum has examples of brothels that are for Japanese men only. It is one of the few countries where that happens.[/QUOTE]Did you not understand my post? Of course they want to exclude others from the market. That's the POINT of exclusivity. Every market is not meant to be open to everyone.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2626707]I have no objection to anyone paying a market price, even if that particular market price is above the price of another market, even a neighborhood away.

But many Japanese often seem to want to exclude others from participating in their particular market, with some ladies realizing this and creating a specific and unique identity just for Japanese customers.

The Tokyo forum has examples of brothels that are for Japanese men only. It is one of the few countries where that happens.[/QUOTE]The same sort of thing has happened in the Philippines with some clubs only for Japanese or Koreans, or at least places that skew heavily toward catering to that clientele. Same for some clubs in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Drgn;2626738]Did you not understand my post? Of course they want to exclude others from the market. That's the POINT of exclusivity. Every market is not meant to be open to everyone.[/QUOTE]That night that I was competing with the Japanese at Scandallo for "Sarah"? I made sure I won.

[B]Sarah[/B](excerpted from a previous report).

I approached Sarah with a "Hi", and her eyes immediately lit up! She was like, "Oh, you speak English? So do I! That's great! Would you like to go sit and talk?" Hell yeah LOL! We moved to one of the side couches, and I offered to buy Sarah a drink, but she said she didn't consume alcohol. So we began to talk. About all sorts of things, and Sarah was proving to be a really cool person.

She told me some of the story of her life. About how her father was killed as a result of being part of a love triangle, and that she grew up poor living with her mom in Curitiba. She told me that she was of German stock, and that her grandmother had been from the old country. She said that she had hated her grandma because she was a racist, and that she had refused to go to her own grandma's funeral because of that. It was rather loud where we were sitting, so we moved to another part of the club with more quiet to continue our conversation. The tute I had seen at the Ibirapuera Shopping Center walked by, and I told Sarah the story. She thought it was funny and laughed! Despite her objective beauty, I discovered that Sarah was insecure about her looks. She told me that when she first started working at Scandallo, she found that she was constantly being turned down by all except the Japanese men. She said that many mongers just didn't find her exotic enough and preferred a "morena popozuda" or something like that over her LOL! In fact, she said that she herself found blonde and blue to be ugly, and that she wasn't attracted to guys who looked like her. She said she liked the Japanese guys because they liked her, and that they would pay the best money for her no questions asked. I asked Sarah if she thought she was ugly. She answered softly, "Not me. " But I could tell by her answer that she lacked confidence in herself.

I let her know that I liked her blonde hair and blue eyes and wanted to session with her. She started out by quoting me 800 reals for an hour! I told her that was very high, and she responded yeah she had to remember she wasn't dealing with a Japanese customer LOL! Sarah asked me what I wanted to pay, and I countered with 500. She shot back 600, and I jokingly countered again with 550. But I wasn't serious. For a girl of Sarah's caliber, 600 reals was fine (no anal and sorry no pics included), so off we went. On the way to the room Sarah asked, "Well what did the last girl you were with look like?" I asked her why in the world she was asking me something like that. She said, "Well, maybe I'm a little jealous." Well, the last one I had been with was Grazie, so I answered honestly, "She had blonde hair and blue eyes. Just like you." Sarah smiled and replied softly, "Good boy." We got to the room and I told Sarah that I liked her "vanilla milk shake" (butt) hehehe! She didn't quite understand. After showering we got on the bed and took care of business!

Oh what a sight to see such a beauty sucking away on my dong! I laid back while Sarah gave me a quality BBBJ, occasionally looking up at me with her beautiful blue eyes. When it was time to penetrate Sarah's body, I made sure to put one of my few remaining super thin Sagami condoms on my dick. I needed to feel all of that "precious gem". Sarah rode me reverse and standard cowgirl while I slapped her ass and groped her titties. I pounded hard and rough against her "vanilla shake" from the doggy position listening with pure joy at her cries of, "Oiee! Oiee! Oiee"!

Then onto her back for some mish. While on top of Sarah missionary style I whispered into her ear, "No way am I going to let the Japanese guys be the only ones to get some of this. I want some"! Sarah guffawed in laughter! Then I told her that I was going to tell all of the American guys what they were missing. Again more laughter. Then back to business! We started to fuck again, this time from the missionary position. Sarah raised and spread her knees wide so that I could get deep inside of her. With the Sagami on, it felt as if nothing was between us. Our pelvis' slammed together in a rhythmic whack, whack, whack! She closed her eyes and threw her head back as I groaned and spermed inside her precious buceta! And then a sweet and tender kiss on the lips between us. Nice! Very, very nice! And again worth every last real to me to be able to fuck such a gorgeous young branca!

I hung around for a good while more, admittedly feeling some jealousy over Sarah and wanting to see who, it anybody, might pick her next. I mean she made me think about being her sugar daddy LOL! I was there fairly late not too far from closing time, and nobody else did choose her, try as she might to present herself favorably for the taking. A really hot morena popozuda came after me, and I would have sessioned with her too if only my budget had allowed for it. But alas, it was my final night in Sampa, and my budget for tapping ass was spent! And I already had my super-hot morena in Annie the last time at Scandallo. So sorry Popo! Maybe next time! And God willing, there will be a next time! But for now, I have the pleasure of knowing that the last girl I fucked in Brazil was none other than a gorgeous young woman from Curitiba going by Sarah. Never going to forget her either! Never! In fact, on the way back to my hotel, I was deeply saddened by the knowledge that I will likely never see her again in my life.

The Cane.

[QUOTE=Drgn;2626738]Did you not understand my post? Of course they want to exclude others from the market. That's the POINT of exclusivity. Every market is not meant to be open to everyone.[/QUOTE]I think Mongerer88 is saying the exclusivity barrier should only be dollars not dollars and race.

Not too long ago USA Country clubs could set high financial barriers for exclusivity and tag on exclusions for Blacks and Jews. Most of these clubs have been forced to change their restrictions.

Perhaps, it's a North American way of viewing the modern world.

[QUOTE=Drgn;2626676]....and start savoring the things that others cannot.[/QUOTE]Folks who do that have some mental issues, and I feel sorry for them.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2626742]The same sort of thing has happened in the Philippines with some clubs only for Japanese or Koreans, or at least places that skew heavily toward catering to that clientele. Same for some clubs in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Its all because of the fear of the Caucasian dick size. The same thing happens in China. Once I had chosen a Chinese woman in Malioboro club in Jakarta, Indonesia and she said to be: "Be gentle, I have Chinese pussy. " LOL.

I won't return to Sao Paulo until 03 December, has anyone been to the re-opened / re-modeled Casarao? I'm asking for a friend!

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2626761]I think Mongerer88 is saying the exclusivity barrier should only be dollars not dollars and race.

Not too long ago USA Country clubs could set high financial barriers for exclusivity and tag on exclusions for Blacks and Jews. Most of these clubs have been forced to change their restrictions.

Perhaps, it's a North American way of viewing the modern world.[/QUOTE]Since, we're talking about Japanese men, this way of viewing the world clearly extends outside of North American. BTW, many of those country clubs maintained some exclusions by putting in sponsorship requirements for membership ie. Several current members must vouch for you. Even in NYC there are certain buildings where celebrities (who obviously have the financial resources) have been turned away for not being a good "fit" for residency.

I read his first question as "WHY are the wealthy willing to pay more for perceived exclusivity", the answer to which I "thought" was obvious. Still, I attempted to provide some insight into mindset when one's options are numerous. Abundance can breed boredom, so you want something special / different / better than what's available to the masses. What you're referring to is a different question, that is "Why is race included as a factor, along with finances, in determining exclusivity". The simple answer is "because they can". Why do some women insist on dating men over 6 ft? Why do many men refuse to sleep with overweight women? Because we can. The reality is we are surrounded by "exclusivity" in some way, shape, or form all of the time. Exclusive night clubs and after-parties. Homes and cars that are out of reach for 99% of the population. Financial relationships that are by invitation-only (Amex Centurion). White-shoe firms that ONLY recruit from certain colleges and universities. Yet, most people only notice it when they attempt to open that locked door, ie when exclusivity works against them. Often, we're blind to the situations that work IN our favor.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2626843]Folks who do that have some mental issues, and I feel sorry for them.[/QUOTE]Perhaps your right. Among friends, I often lament being born in a time period when riding across the countryside on horseback, killing everything that moves, is generally frowned upon. So, I went to work on Wall Street instead. You make do with what you have.

[QUOTE=Drgn;2627100]Yet, most people only notice it when they attempt to open that locked door, ie when exclusivity works against them. Often, we're blind to the situations that work IN our favor.[/QUOTE]Not only are people often blind when it works in their favor, but they will actively try to explain, justify, and advocate for why exclusivity that works in their favor is appropriate and fair, or even a good thing. But then as you say, when exclusivity works against them, it's quite a different story!

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2626336]In response to the clinicas post. I lost the quote.

Exactly. I have mentioned in my previous posts that I like the clinicas. But it's also the Long game. Value can't be beat. If you only have a few days probably I would do known online Girls from the reliable Websites, clubmodel, Mclass, private55 and Cross reference the girls to the local forum, gp-Guia, for reviews. For clinicas, My MO is get a flat in Moema. There are 5 clinicas within a 10 minutes walk and another 10 clinicas within 15 minutes Uber ride. Minimum of 100 girls. It's correct that most don't interest me. Probably 5 To 8 girls out of the 100 in my range of 7.5 to 9. Can't fuck them all in one day. You don't have to visit all of them each day. I look at the daily WhatsApp status photos to find which ones to visit. Sometimes, but often not, I would book an appt with a girl Via WhatsApp if I Have seen the girl before or the photos are particular hot, which is a gamble but It's only USD $30 to 50. I also sometimes ask if a particular girl is available now and head over to see her physically. Even if you have booked a girl, get there early to see the presentation before and stay after the session to see the presentation again to see if there any new girls, so I can connect which girls to the WhatsApp status photos. I have done really well with this. And almost all clinicas girls give very good service.

Those clinicas you mentioned are really far away from the center of action, I wouldn't recommend them if guys are new to SP. If the clinicas have WhatsApp's, I may try to book a girl to test them out and see if the long ride is worth it.[/QUOTE]5 clinicas? In Moema I only know of Redmassagem and Abbobora. I would really appreciate if you could point me to the others as well or the 10 other ones that are an uber ride away as I am planning on exactly what you suggested: Getting an apartment or hotel close or in Moema and mongering there for straightup a week or so.

I don't speak portuguese thought so I would appreciate additional info on those clinicas you mentioned.

[QUOTE=Argo1990;2627129]5 clinicas? In Moema I only know of Redmassagem and Abbobora. I would really appreciate if you could point me to the others as well or the 10 other ones that are an uber ride away as I am planning on exactly what you suggested: Getting an apartment or hotel close or in Moema and mongering there for straightup a week or so.

I don't speak portuguese thought so I would appreciate additional info on those clinicas you mentioned.[/QUOTE]I didn't even count Red! Since I haven't visited.

In Moema, Prime, 57 House, Miruna, Abbobora, Enjoy (I count it since it's just across the big road). Those are my big 5. I also forgot Red, carinas, Lakshmi spa and Kamna in Moema which I don't go.

Within 15 minutes drive, cherry, Indy, Vani house, nova ceci, Chanel, Congonhas, tangara, route 55, Sharon massage, lotus lounge, kin, Lola spa, advance VIP, Assahi, Brooklin. I am sure I am missing a few.

[QUOTE=Argo1990;2627129]5 clinicas? In Moema I only know of Redmassagem and Abbobora. I would really appreciate if you could point me to the others as well or the 10 other ones that are an uber ride away as I am planning on exactly what you suggested: Getting an apartment or hotel close or in Moema and mongering there for straightup a week or so.

I don't speak portuguese thought so I would appreciate additional info on those clinicas you mentioned.[/QUOTE]Clinicas in Moema within a few minute walk of each other include Prime, Carinas, Enjoy, Miruna, and Abbobora.

P.S. it's hard to resist the never ending Clinicas vs. Scandallo discussion. The restaurant analogy that's been used on these pages before is super helpful. Clinicas are the high quality lunch spots people frequent in Manhattan, when time is limited but quality is desired. Scandallo is the high end dinner restaurant, where the overall experience is as valuable as the food. It's a privilege to indulge in both. Sometimes I feel more sensitive to time (like the Manhattan office worker at lunchtime) so I appreciate that Clinicas work on a reliable schedule with a specific time box. But the experiences serve different purposes.

[QUOTE=Argo1990;2627129]5 clinicas? In Moema I only know of Redmassagem and Abbobora. I would really appreciate if you could point me to the others as well or the 10 other ones that are an uber ride away as I am planning on exactly what you suggested: Getting an apartment or hotel close or in Moema and mongering there for straightup a week or so.

I don't speak portuguese thought so I would appreciate additional info on those clinicas you mentioned.[/QUOTE]

Clnica Indy Massagens. Av. Indianpolis, 2201 - Planalto Paulista.

Clinica Prime. Av. Irai, 511, Moema.

Clnica Kin Center. Tv. Libera Rivelino, 210, Brooklin Novo.

Clinica Brooklin. Av Professor Vicente Rao, 1656.

Clnica Enjoy Spa. Rua Condessa do Pinhal, 279, Campo Belo.

Clnica Nova Ceci. Av. Ceci, 2189, Planalto Paulista.

Clnica Chanel. A. Ceci, 2228 - Planalto Paulista.

57 House Friend's Club-Alameda dos Aicas 1. 293 Moema.

Clnica Kahunas. Rua Bartolomeu de Gusmo, 147, Vila Mariana.

Clinica Tangara - Rua Tangara 200, Vila Mariana.

Clnica Route 55 - Praca Dr. Carvalho Franco, 55 - Vila Mariana.

Advance Vip. Rua Professor Santiago Dantas, 62 - Morumbi.

Clnica Miruna's. Avenida Miruna, 644 - Moema.

Clinica Yankin. Rua Dr. Jos de Queirz Aranha, 148 - Ana Rosa.

Clnica L. Gois. Rua Lus Gois, 820 - Vila Mariana.

Lola Massagens. Rua Prof. Santiago Dantas, 83, Morumbi.

Tokio Spa. Rua Indiana, 1350 - Brooklin.

Clinica Cancioneiro. Rua. Novo Cancioneiro, 88 - Brooklin.

Clnica Carinas. Av. Dos Carinas, 439 - Indianpolis.

Clnica Nova Antares. Av Bosque the Sade, 268 - Praca the Arvore.

Prive Vani's Way. Rua Dom Antonio Galvo, 266.

[URL]https://www.gp-guia.net[/URL] is your friend. Use google translate to read it.

In Moema.

Also Bahamas hotel club which is an other boate and Zeus strip club where you can take girls out to a room.

And hot bar and inner club which are swinger clubs. I made the mistake of taking a very hot GP to hot bar where every other guy wanted to swap their ugly girlfriend with me. I went on a sat night and it was packed with hot looking girls but most were there just to party and dance and they didn't go into the sex rooms. It seems going to party in swing club is the thing to do for young rich kids in SP.

Surprisingly moema is a nice area and great restaurants and bars. But there is literally a working girl house on each block.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2627192]

[URL]https://www.gp-guia.net[/URL] is your friend. Use google translate to read it.[/QUOTE]I forgot to mention that the prices shown on gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] are what members who post pay, which at many clinicas is generally the 30 minute rate for an hour program, so you will be paying some 60 to 80 real more than the gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] prices at those clinicas.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2626936]Its all because of the fear of the Caucasian dick size. The same thing happens in China. Once I had chosen a Chinese woman in Malioboro club in Jakarta, Indonesia and she said to be: "Be gentle, I have Chinese pussy. " LOL.[/QUOTE]The girls in certain countries called me Superman because I lasted longer than 5 minutes. So, not only are their condoms absurdly too small, their skills in the bedroom are severely lacking.

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2627055]I won't return to Sao Paulo until 03 December, has anyone been to the re-opened / re-modeled Casarao? I'm asking for a friend![/QUOTE]There is no reopened / remodeled Casarao. The place was place shut down during the pandemic and there are two different clubs in its place that have been there as least since this past May. I am attaching two photos of them that I took last month. At night they both have hawkers by their doors trying to get you to come inside, which means you shouldn't go in (so I didn't). So, let's not have any fictitious TRs about going to Casaraos and not seeing anything in there.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2627231]I forgot to mention that the prices shown on gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] are what members who post pay, which at many clinicas is generally the 30 minute rate for an hour program, so you will be paying some 60 to 80 real more than the gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] prices at those clinicas.[/QUOTE]Have anyone try to get the Florista discount in GP-guia? I think you have to write a girl review within 30 minutes of the session on the website. The website has lots of rules and probably need to written in Portuguese. The one hour discount is between 50-60 real which is USD $10 but can add up.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2627372]There is no reopened / remodeled Casarao. The place was place shut down during the pandemic and there are two different clubs in its place that have been there as least since this past May. I am attaching two photos of them that I took last month. At night they both have hawkers by their doors trying to get you to come inside, which means you shouldn't go in (so I didn't). So, let's not have any fictitious TRs about going to Casaraos and not seeing anything in there.[/QUOTE]You don't even have the right spot LOL! Those places don't sit where you say Casarao "used" to be! Looking at your photos, Casarao would be to the right of Balneairo American Bar, which does not stand in place of Casarao. I know it, because I have been to both. Here is the report I did on Balneairo way back when:

[B]Balneairo American Bar[/B]

This joint is a little shit hole [B]right next to[/B] Casarao. I never would have gone to it except for the fact that I arrived at Casarao before it had opened, so I decided to take a peek next door just to cool my heels and have a drink before going to Casarao when it opened. What transpired was my best anal session of the entire trip! Upon entry into the club, I was approached in short order by a cute, 25 year-old morena from Belem going by Camila. She was joined by her very aggressive friend who I was not attracted to. I made it clear that Camila was the one I liked, and the friend eventually left and latched onto another target (who she fucked). Turning my attention to Camila, I decided to session when she agreed to an hour long session with anal for only 200 reals! I was concerned over what the room would look like, but hey you only live once! This girl is cute, and she's going to let me fuck her in the butt for 200 reals! So we get down there and sure enough it's a really shitty room with a tiny, unkempt shower and a mat on a kind of raised bed (attached to wall) for doing the deed.

Well I decided not to give a damn! I was going to take that girl's dirty little butt hole in that dirty little room for cheap! Yes sir! The session started out great with a BBBJ, then 69, then more BBBJ followed by reverse cowgirl and standard cowgirl. We went into some doggy until Camila asked me sweetly if I was ready to enter her "culito" (asshole). You're damn straight I'm ready! I gently entered Camila's anus orifice before starting to give her a good hard butt fucking. She was on all fours, but I was ramming it into her ass so hard that she went face down and booty up! With that, I got up on my feet and squatted over Camila's upturned fanny and began to pound the daylights out of her ass whack, whack, whack, whack, whack against her butt cheeks! Now Camila began to cry out as I smashed her asshole in! I continued to ass pound until she went flat down onto her belly, still crying out. I kept going like a crazed butt fucker until finally I creamed Camila's cornhole and collapsed onto her back! The two of us got showered up, and then left the club together to go eat at a Japanese restaurant down the street. We exchanged e-mail addy's and phone numbers and agreed to meet again. Total damage was 200 reals plus a 10 reals entrada fee (good for 1 beer) and dinner for two at a modest restaurant (also paid her like 10 reals for a taxi back to the club). Was totally worth it to me, especially since I expected nothing from what was a little shit hole of a place!

I did get together with Camila one more time, the second time being at my hotel. I actually had gone back to Balneario with the plan to get "take-out". It didn't seem so dirty the second time around LOL! But still, it couldn't compare to my hotel. The management agreed to allow Camila to leave for some time at my hotel, and if I recall correctly, I paid a 150 reals take-out fee. Camila's charge for her time was 500 reals plus taxi. Back at my hotel, I concluded that she was decidedly less attractive in the full light of my room hahaha! But she still looked good enough for fucking, which we did 3 times, including using one of my super thin Sagami condoms from Japan. We both moaned and gasped at how good it felt and marveled at what was a bareback-like sexual feeling! We took some time for sleeping and eating too. That is, in between Camila going reverse cowgirl and licking and sucking on my nuts! Again, I regret not the cost and believe the time spent was worth every real. When you find a good one at a good price a monger has to go for it! Balneiro American Bar is a dirty little hole LOL!

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2627469]Have anyone try to get the Florista discount in GP-guia? I think you have to write a girl review within 30 minutes of the session on the website. The website has lots of rules and probably need to written in Portuguese. The one hour discount is between 50-60 real which is USD $10 but can add up.[/QUOTE]I get it all the time because I have lots of reviews. I use Google translate to write my reviews in Portuguese. You don't have to write it immediately but they may check to see if you wrote one if you go back and ask for the forista price. Also, you're not going to get the forista price if you don't have any reviews.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2627372]There is no reopened / remodeled Casarao. The place was place shut down during the pandemic and there are two different clubs in its place that have been there as least since this past May. I am attaching two photos of them that I took last month. At night they both have hawkers by their doors trying to get you to come inside, which means you shouldn't go in (so I didn't). So, let's not have any fictitious TRs about going to Casaraos and not seeing anything in there.[/QUOTE]That club, Balnearios has been there for years.

Next to Casarao.

Been there many times.

I posted pics earlier of the renovations going on inside Casarao.

Just because it wasn't open last month when you walked by, doesn't mean it won't open up again.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2627525]That club, Balnearios has been there for years.

Next to Casarao.

Been there many times.

I posted pics earlier of the renovations going on inside Casarao.

Just because it wasn't open last month when you walked by, doesn't mean it won't open up again.[/QUOTE]I have no first person knowledge. So don't blame me if it's wrong. But on gp-guia there are a few reports that this boate has reopened last week after the weak renovation.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2627502].. You don't have to write it immediately but they may check to see if you wrote one if you go back and ask for the forista price. Also, you're not going to get the forista price if you don't have any reviews.[/QUOTE]To SamaRiding, some may require the review of one hour session for discount.

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2627055]I won't return to Sao Paulo until 03 December, has anyone been to the re-opened / re-modeled Casarao? I'm asking for a friend![/QUOTE]Went there last week. Looks like a balada now. There were maybe 50 guys and 10 girls.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2626239]I agree with you. The Japanese Brazilian working girls who I have seen on twitter and in the clinicas are almost all mixed ethnicities, which can be nice. I also seen 1 or 2 full Japanese looking girls in Scandallo. I heard that the Japanese community in SP can be pretty closed knit and it is a highest economic class in SP. I heard the owner of Dcandallo is Japanese Brazilian. But sex is sold in every community. I bet is there are Japanese only clinicas or geisha clubs that are very premium (I. E. Expensive) and probably not even open to other Brazilians and not advertised. My guess is the only way to know where is a personal invitation by a local Japanese Brazilian regular. My Porto is too poor to ask. If anybody knows, DM me and I will paid you back in any Intel I have. Anyways, I go to SP for the whitest red heads, but I do have a second fetish for Japanese girls. Ok, maybe third place, after dark hair Romanian beauties. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]Scandallo owner is not japa, but at Bomboa is.

Yes there are private sex parties to Brazilians no condom orgies and are with their sugardaddys.

I went to Brasil for the first time for F1 over 10 years ago and love it probably because one of the most beautiful girl I've every been with till this day did bbbfs without me asking.

After a few years of not being to go during F1 week I returned last week and the same shit happened again. It's like dejavu all over again, Met a girl that looks exactly like the porn star Amy Reid and did everything also bbbfs, anal, swallow. You can't bargain for this level of services. It only comes with chemistry by being able to speak the lingo.

Girls come out of the woodworks for F1 week especially since it was canceled for the last 2 years. Saw girls from 4 years ago still just as hot. Brazilian girls age pretty good or could be just all the plastic surgery.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2626239]I agree with you. The Japanese Brazilian working girls who I have seen on twitter and in the clinicas are almost all mixed ethnicities, which can be nice. I also seen 1 or 2 full Japanese looking girls in Scandallo. I heard that the Japanese community in SP can be pretty closed knit and it is a highest economic class in SP. I heard the owner of Dcandallo is Japanese Brazilian. But sex is sold in every community. I bet is there are Japanese only clinicas or geisha clubs that are very premium (I. E. Expensive) and probably not even open to other Brazilians and not advertised. My guess is the only way to know where is a personal invitation by a local Japanese Brazilian regular. My Porto is too poor to ask. If anybody knows, DM me and I will paid you back in any Intel I have. Anyways, I go to SP for the whitest red heads, but I do have a second fetish for Japanese girls. Ok, maybe third place, after dark hair Romanian beauties. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]One time I went to Kilt in Sao Paulo. I did not like that club, and one reason why not is that the girls mostly catered to Japanese guys only! Here is what I wrote about Kilt:

[B]Kilt[/B]

Kilt is another one of the few places where I chose not to session. For one thing, I found most of the girls to be unattractive. Second, the place really caters to Japanese clients. Even the food menu had only sushi on it. I like sushi, but I wanted something different on that night. With the focus being on Japanese men, it was hard to get any attention from any of the girls, even for a traditional-looking Brazilian man (I pass for Brazilian). I would see guys come in and be totally ignored in favor of Japanese clients! I didn't like that. I didn't like it at all! About three or so girls did approach me, but I wasn't too interested in them. I did strike up a conversation with one of them just to get some more info about the club. I already knew that the entrada was 60 reals to sit at the bar or 80 reals to get a table. It was 400 reals to session with a tute. My understanding was that there were rooms on premises, but I don't recall the cost. I had a few drinks and decided to leave. Felt like the place was owned by the Japanese yakuza (mob) LOL!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2627525]That club, Balnearios has been there for years.

Next to Casarao.

Been there many times.

I posted pics earlier of the renovations going on inside Casarao.

Just because it wasn't open last month when you walked by, doesn't mean it won't open up again.[/QUOTE]Good story, bro. Rsrs.

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2627055]I won't return to Sao Paulo until 03 December, has anyone been to the re-opened / re-modeled Casarao? I'm asking for a friend![/QUOTE]According to thier web page thier open and social media accounts thier open. Contact them using contact link to be sure.

[URL]https://casaraoaugusta.com.br/[/URL]

That's a good find.

Keep us updated.

Casarao is a key spot.

I took a prive girl there to check out the market, and it was fun.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2628143]According to thier web page thier open and social media accounts thier open. Contact them using contact link to be sure.

[URL]https://casaraoaugusta.com.br/[/URL][/QUOTE]

On my recent October trip I briefly checked out Lotus Club, Av. Juscelino Kubitschek, 373 on a Friday night at around 10:30. It was obvious that some real money had been invested into the remodel and the place looked great. The staff were very friendly too. An attractive receptionist told me I could look around before paying for admission, but I chose to pay assuming I would find what I was looking for. She escorted me up to the 2nd floor where the main bar and entertainment area is located. She said there would be more girls and live music later in the night.

But at the moment, unfortunately, the place was nearly empty with only 4 customers and 5 girls and the 5 girls were not quite up to my Boate standards. I hung around for 30 minutes or so hoping more girls would show up. When none did I took my leave, but before I left, the attractive receptionist (I would have done her without hesitation) introduced me to the manager who said that if I came back anytime during in the next week, my admission would be comped which was a nice touch and I really hope the place succeeds, but to succeed a Boate needs girls, lots of attractive girls.

So I went around the corner to Bomboa, a Boate I really like. The place was jumping, and I found what I was looking for. 555.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2628143]According to their web page their open and social media accounts their open. Contact them using contact link to be sure.

[URL]https://casaraoaugusta.com.br/[/URL][/QUOTE]Somebody in SP should go to Casarao, take a look around and report back.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2628250]On my recent October trip I briefly checked out Lotus Club, Av. Juscelino Kubitschek, 373 on a Friday night at around 10:30. It was obvious that some real money had been invested into the remodel and the place looked great. The staff were very friendly too. An attractive receptionist told me I could look around before paying for admission, but I chose to pay assuming I would find what I was looking for. She escorted me up to the 2nd floor where the main bar and entertainment area is located. She said there would be more girls and live music later in the night.

But at the moment, unfortunately, the place was nearly empty with only 4 customers and 5 girls and the 5 girls were not quite up to my Boate standards. I hung around for 30 minutes or so hoping more girls would show up. When none did I took my leave, but before I left, the attractive receptionist (I would have done her without hesitation) introduced me to the manager who said that if I came back anytime during in the next week, my admission would be comped which was a nice touch and I really hope the place succeeds, but to succeed a Boate needs girls, lots of attractive girls..[/QUOTE]I will give it a shot next week when I'm in Town. If any other fellow monger is willing to try it, please PM or reply here so we can meet. I'm planning on visiting Bomboa and of course, the all known Scandallo haha.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2627981]Good story, bro. Rsrs.[/QUOTE]Another moron on the ignore list, bro. Rsrs.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2627192]Clnica Indy Massagens. Av. Indianpolis, 2201 - Planalto Paulista.

Clinica Prime. Av. Irai, 511, Moema.

Clnica Kin Center. Tv. Libera Rivelino, 210, Brooklin Novo.

Clinica Brooklin. Av Professor Vicente Rao, 1656.

....[/QUOTE]You are a saint my friend. Really appreciate all of these addresses. It will be my 2nd time in Sao Paulo. The first time I had booked a hotel in Jardins. Is there an airbnb or hotel you could recommend that is close to Moema? I feel like Brazilian hotels in the medium budget category have really shitty rooms or maybe my expectations are too high but even places that had 8+ scores on [URL]booking.com[/URL] felt super underwhelming.

For anyone wondering about Casarao. I was there 2 years ago on my first trip. Just took an uber from my place to Casarao. My uber driver warned me to keep an eye on the drinks in case anyone might want to drug me. Great guy: the.

Place was packed. Easily 30 girls inside. I took a Japanese brazilian that performed alright and paid 300 + room (upstairs) for 1 hour if I remember correctly.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2627836]One time I went to Kilt in Sao Paulo. I did not like that club, and one reason why not is that the girls mostly catered to Japanese guys only!...[/QUOTE]This habit of catering to Japanese mongers only is fairly common in Asia. I experienced it in Thailand.

I have a strong yellow fever. Hence, when I last visited São Paulo, I wanted to have a session with a Brazilian / Japanese girl so bad, but I was not successful.

In past years, I used to go to Hong Kong. Japanese WGs were advertised there, but there were many fake ones, Chinese WGs passing for Japanese. Unfortunately, I could only tell after a session, not before.

I finally decided to go to the source, in Tokyo. There, I had plenty of Japanese WGs but they were very expensive. Practically emptied my wallet and went back home.

[QUOTE=Argo1990;2628442]You are a saint my friend. Really appreciate all of these addresses. It will be my 2nd time in Sao Paulo. The first time I had booked a hotel in Jardins. Is there an airbnb or hotel you could recommend that is close to Moema? I feel like Brazilian hotels in the medium budget category have really shitty rooms or maybe my expectations are too high but even places that had 8+ scores on [URL]booking.com[/URL] felt super underwhelming. [/QUOTE]

I don't know if any of these hotels meet your standard but I stay at Mercure hotels in Moema. There are 3 of them, about $40-$50 a night, with pool, gym, and dry sauna. If you book on [URL]https://all.accor.com[/URL] and become a member, you get 10% off, plus points which are worth about 8 cents per dollar spent towards future reservations, and if you book for 10 days or more, you get an even bigger discount and breakfast is included. My costs there varied from $25 a night to $40 a night when I stayed there September and October 2021.

Mercure Sao Paulo Moema.

Av. Lavandisca, 365 - Moema.

Mercure So Paulo Ibirapuera Privilege Hotel.

Av. Macuco, 579 - Moema.

Mercure Sao Paulo Moema Times Square Hotel.

Av. Jamaris, 100 - Torre 1 - Moema.

The first two have dry saunas that are open to guests (although only one or two guests at a time because of Covid restrictions), which is why I stayed at those two on my last trip. The last two also have airbnbs in them which may be a little cheaper than the hotel rates. Check on [URL]airbnb.com[/URL] for these as as well as other ones in the other hotels below and in the Moema area.

There are some other hotels near these that other people have stayed at and liked like the Comfort Hotel Ibirapuera, Bourbon Sao Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Hotel, and Meli Ibirapuera at about the same price.

There is also Tsue The Palace Flat (half a block from 57 Friends House), which is a condo that has units for rent at maybe a little cheaper price than the hotels. You may get a better deal than on hotel websites like [URL]hotels.com[/URL] or [URL]booking.com[/URL] if you contact them directly.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2628465]I don't know if any of these hotels meet your standard but I stay at Mercure hotels in Moema.

Mercure Sao Paulo Moema.

Av. Lavandisca, 365 - Moema.

Mercure So Paulo Ibirapuera Privilege Hotel.

Av. Macuco, 579 - Moema.

Mercure Sao Paulo Moema Times Square Hotel.

Av. Jamaris, 100 - Torre 1 - Moema.[/QUOTE]I also stayed in Ibirapuera Privilege and Times Square in October. I reported here about the noise in Times Square, but it stopped and the rest of my stay was fine.

These hotels are not Renaissance, but they are very good for the price you pay. Due to pandemic the cleaning is very thorough and I didn't find a spot of dirt in my room. I recommend if you are a 4-star guy, like me.

I did a tour of the boates to see how many and the quality girls there were on a Friday night since most girls comes out of the wood works to work during F1, many freelancers, many first timers.

Scandallo 500 girls ranging from 5-10, the girl I saw was her first night there I was not interested in anyone else after I met her LOL.

Bomboa 60 girls, ranging from 5-9, definitely less bolt ONS if one prefer more natural look.

Cafe Photo 80 girls, ranging from 5-8. My buddy told me the girls are Scandallo rejects since the girls can just freelance at Photo.

All Places were super packed but non F1 week I would expect about half. Expect higher prices during F1 and next year when they have auto convention the week prior.

There were many tickets left still available for F1, next year will be even more packed.

I just finished my two-week long bender in SP. I'll just add a few points / random thoughts:

Bomboa.

This past Monday was a holiday, I wasn't expecting any action that day. I decided to head over to Bomboa due to their low entry fee (250 BRL all consumable). The place is small / cozy. I wasn't a huge fan, but at that price point I'll come by again, if only to grab dinner and a drink before going to Scandallo LOL.

Cafe Photo.

Tuesday I went to Cafe Photo and I was very pleasantly surprised. It's a nice setting, basically just a big restaurant / bar spread across two floors with a live band downstairs. They've actually got a pretty cool animation showing the location on their Twitter. Entry was 350 BRL, 200 or 150 consumable I think.

A big plus here is that the music (at least the day I was there) was much better than Scandallo. Scandallo music gets repetitive, and they mostly play sertenejo, which is like a mix of rock and Brazilian country music. I assume it caters to the older rich Brazilians there which is why it's so awful haha. But Cafe Photo just had regular music, pop, electronic, etc. They had a live band doing covers of popular music. Much more jammable, although Cafe Photo doesn't have a dedicated dancing area.

Generally speaking, I'd say the girls at Cafe Photo are pretty much the same as Scandallo, the only difference is the setting. Café Photo is smaller and much chiller, relaxed. Not as noisy and crazy as Scandallo. I hear that Cafe Photo girls are not allowed to approach men themselves. You can decide which venue you're in the mood for on any particular night.

On a Tuesday there were not many men but about 40 women. After eating some dinner and ogling the talent I made some moves. I talked to several women, including a branca that wanted 1500 BRL. I laughed and quickly moved on, especially since she said she wasn't vaccinated and she was a fan of Bolsonaro haha. I ended up choosing a fiesty classic Latina. Cafe Photo doesn't have hotels on premises yet (they're under construction), but they allow you to take the girl out for free. This will be a big plus for some I'm sure, as you'd be able to negotiate a more unrushed service. Unfortunately my girl was quite business minded, and she even attempted to ask me for 300 more afterwards. I just offered to call her an Uber.

But damn, even a girl that business minded gave the most PSE of my life. Making out, 69 ing, and even her rimming me without asking. Is this part of the regular menu for many girls and I just never knew? I'm not much interested in playing with their asses, but vice versa, most def.

Anyways, it's just another data point that helps me crown SP and Brazil in general as the top spot for mongering in the world. If a girl was angling for more cash / willing to pull some BS in a place like Thailand, she would've just ripped me off. But the attitude just seems to be different in Brazil. Even when girls try the upselling and games, it's still awesome.

Scandallo.

As good as Cafe Photo was of course I had end my trip at Scandallo. I went there Wednesday night, Thursday night, Friday afternoon, and Friday night.

Even outside of F1 week Scandallo still is hopping, but it's not always fantastic. I'd say take those days in stride, come into it with low expectations and you'll never be disappointed.

Wednesday was one of those nights. I had drank quite a bit at Cafe Photo the night before and didn't get great sleep. I was struggling, and I wasn't finding anyone that blew me away, except for one. She was an absolute GND type, small petite smart and totally my type. But she wasn't giving super GFE vibes and as I said before, I was exhausted so I just grabbed her WA and headed back ti the hotel.

Thursday was great, busy as usual. I found a stunning blonde with great body. Very passionate, great chemistry. Night to remeber. 1000 BRL.

Friday I had the day off, so I decided to lunch at Scandallo. I've never ordered food there so I wanted to check it out. It's ok but expensive. There were about 30 girls at 3 pm. Talent wasn't great but I kinda forced myself to take a Middle Eastern looking girl, 700 BRL. Best part is that you don't have to pay entry fee / consumption at all if you re-enter the club later at night.

Friday evening was honestly kind of a dud but also fun in its own way. I ended up just talking to an Argentinian chick for a bit more than an hour about life, relationships, etc. I've heard not great things about Argentinian girls in comparison to Brazilians, and it was proven true. Though she was very friendly she wasn't very. Warm. She didn't curl up to me or get physically close, even though we'd been chatting in Spanish for more than an hour. She wanted 1000 BRL but said she didn't do BBBJ or kiss, which was a deal-breaker. I informed her that every other Scandallo girl did do it, for a lower price generally. She seemed content to go home empty-handed. And at that point I was too. It was pushing 3 am and Friday nights at Scandallo aren't as popping as weekdays. I called it a night, and thus ended my trip.

I've already booked my hotels for next year during F1 week, and will book flights too. As I said, F1 week is not to be missed even though it gets packed. I'll probably be back at some point earlier next year as well, although not sure when. Flying overseas to monger is addictive and fun, but not really conducive to living a balanced sustainable healthy life, IMO. Time to get back to the "real-world".

[QUOTE=Rextor;2629034]...... the most PSE of my life. Making out, 69 ing, and even her rimming me without asking. Is this part of the regular menu for many girls and I just never knew? ......[/QUOTE]From my experience rimming is generally not on the menu in Brazil, unlike some Asian countries. My suspicion is that she was so much into the session that she lost control. What you got was not PSE but an aroused Brazilian woman.

The best Rio girls will definitely rim ('beijos greigos' is how to ask for it).

Nothing like the prettiest Rio girl with the hottest ass (she is willing to give up, including double penetration with a dildo) with her pretty lips on your asshole, and her tongue up your ass for a little break between marathon fucking.

Never. Never. Never would a rich world chick put in that kind of romantic effort.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2629336]From my experience rimming is generally not on the menu in Brazil, unlike some Asian countries. My suspicion is that she was so much into the session that she lost control. What you got was not PSE but an aroused Brazilian woman.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2629336]From my experience rimming is generally not on the menu in Brazil, unlike some Asian countries. My suspicion is that she was so much into the session that she lost control. What you got was not PSE but an aroused Brazilian woman.[/QUOTE]This young lady [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/abc-paulista/sao-bernardo-do-campo/escort-de-alto-nivel-estilo-namoradinha-id-dfs22[/URL] did it to me, two weeks ago, without asking and another lady in RJ.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2629350]The best Rio girls will definitely rim ('beijos greigos' is how to ask for it).

Nothing like the prettiest Rio girl with the hottest ass (she is willing to give up, including double penetration with a dildo) with her pretty lips on your asshole, and her tongue up your ass for a little break between marathon fucking.

Never. Never. Never would a rich world chick put in that kind of romantic effort.[/QUOTE]That matches my experience. I don't actively look for it, but I've received way more rimming in Brasil than anyone else.

[QUOTE=Combo;2629606]That matches my experience. I don't actively look for it, but I've received way more rimming in Brasil than anyone else.[/QUOTE]Yup. I also had a couple of girls rim me without asking. My first day in SP in Abbobora, the girl was giving me a long BBBJ and then motioned her index finger and asked me if I like it. I have never had a girl give me a prostate massage before so I said a weak ok. She then took a condom and place it over her fingers and then took my butt virginity. Hahahaha. I now know that is not my thing.

[QUOTE=Combo;2629606]That matches my experience. I don't actively look for it, but I've received way more rimming in Brasil than anyone else.[/QUOTE]Combo, check out Macau after it reopens. In the better Macau Saunas rimming is included in the complete cat licking part of the session followed up with fire & ice BJ's before vaginal sex. The girls will usually insert a small piece of shaved ice into the client's asshole as far as it will go with their tongues and keep it there as the water melts down their tongue and chin. It is not my favorite part of the sessions, but the act is unique to Macau Saunas and it feels pretty good. I miss those Korean and mainland Chinese super models even though the price of a session with one of those girls was becoming astronomical before the pandemic hit.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2629350]The best Rio girls will definitely rim ('beijos greigos' is how to ask for it).

Nothing like the prettiest Rio girl with the hottest ass (she is willing to give up, including double penetration with a dildo) with her pretty lips on your asshole, and her tongue up your ass for a little break between marathon fucking.

Never. Never. Never would a rich world chick put in that kind of romantic effort.[/QUOTE]Well, I grew up in a rich country (Canada) and had girls tossing my salad without asking beginning in my early twenties. Maybe I'm just the kind of guy that attracts that kind of girl. And not skanks either. A lawyer, an architect, a doctor. All beautiful.

[QUOTE=NorthernDancer;2629769]Well, I grew up in a rich country (Canada) and had girls tossing my salad without asking beginning in my early twenties. Maybe I'm just the kind of guy that attracts that kind of girl. And not skanks either. A lawyer, an architect, a doctor. All beautiful.[/QUOTE]Maybe it has something to do with personal hygiene?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2629749]Combo, check out Macau after it reopens. In the better Macau Saunas rimming is included in the complete cat licking part of the session followed up with fire & ice BJ's before vaginal sex. The girls will usually insert a small piece of shaved ice into the client's asshole as far as it will go with their tongues and keep it there as the water melts down their tongue and chin. It is not my favorite part of the sessions, but the act is unique to Macau Saunas and it feels pretty good. I miss those Korean and mainland Chinese super models even though the price of a session with one of those girls was becoming astronomical before the pandemic hit.[/QUOTE]Thanks but like I said, not something I really look for. And I doubt I'll be returning to Asia any time soon. Just too long of a trip from the USA.

That goes on the bucket list. Bucket of ice, haha.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2629749]Combo, check out Macau after it reopens. In the better Macau Saunas rimming is included in the complete cat licking part of the session followed up with fire & ice BJ's before vaginal sex. The girls will usually insert a small piece of shaved ice into the client's asshole as far as it will go with their tongues and keep it there as the water melts down their tongue and chin. It is not my favorite part of the sessions, but the act is unique to Macau Saunas and it feels pretty good. I miss those Korean and mainland Chinese super models even though the price of a session with one of those girls was becoming astronomical before the pandemic hit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2629749]Combo, check out Macau after it reopens. In the better Macau Saunas rimming is included in the complete cat licking part of the session...[/QUOTE]I don't believe every sauna would offer that kind of service. I have visited Macau several times over the last decade, and I have not witnessed much rimming. However, I enjoyed thigh massages quite often and I thoroughly enjoyed them.

Maybe you can list those saunas that offer such a sevice.

Post Covid Macau will not be open to anti Chinese persons as much as it was. Just see what has happened in Hong Kong.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2629995]I don't believe every sauna would offer that kind of service. I have visited Macau several times over the last decade, and I have not witnessed much rimming. However, I enjoyed thigh massages quite often and I thoroughly enjoyed them.

Maybe you can list those saunas that offer such a sevice.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2629995]I don't believe every sauna would offer that kind of service. I have visited Macau several times over the last decade, and I have not witnessed much rimming. However, I enjoyed thigh massages quite often and I thoroughly enjoyed them.

Maybe you can list those saunas that offer such a sevice.[/QUOTE]Sure thing, Lefeu. As I wrote, not all saunas have rimming on their menus, but it is part of the program at Rio Sauna and Familia Nobre which IMHO are the 2 best Saunas in Macau, but my favorable opinion is not based their rimming services, but is due to the very high quality of their girls.

I am a big fan of thigh massages too. They are a great way to begin the night. It just goes to show you what proper training can deliver IE the art of elevating a simple hand job into something really pleasurable.

I miss Macau, Jakarta, and of most of all LOS, but fuck it, I just booked my 3rd trip in a row to Brazil. I love Brazilian girls and I am not going to wait around holding my dick in my hand until Asia gets its act together. Brazil is now!

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2629995]I don't believe every sauna would offer that kind of service. I have visited Macau several times over the last decade, and I have not witnessed much rimming. However, I enjoyed thigh massages quite often and I thoroughly enjoyed them.

Maybe you can list those saunas that offer such a sevice.[/QUOTE]Rimming was part of the menu in saunas in Chang Ping, China when it was rocking plus other kinky stuff as well.

Next week I'll be making my first ever visit to SP. Admittedly I've haven't even been reading the forum here lately as I just left Medellin yesterday and been too busy with the chicas there. Back in the USA now for a few days and need to know entry requirements for my trip to Brazil. Do I need either an antigen or PCR negative test result to enter? Is there a CheckMig type app (Colombia requirement) I need to complete for entry?

I've read enough here over the last year to know the scene from afar. I have a list of clinicas to visit with some recommendations from guys I met in Medellin. And I'll probably be a regular evening visitor to Scandellos as my trip is only ten nights before returning to Medellin. I have no Portu speaking ability but my Spanish is good enough I rarely need to used translate except for a word here and there. So hope they are kind to me LOL.

Over the next couple days I'll read the last 25 or 30 pages of posts on this forum to catch up on the latest news and happenings.

Anybody in town and willing to help me learn the day scene and / or hitting Scandellos together please PM me. This is an expoloratory trip for me to see if I want to spend more time in Brazil this winter or just stay in Medellin again. Thanks!

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2630177]Over the next couple days I'll read the last 25 or 30 pages of posts on this forum to catch up on the latest news and happenings.[/QUOTE]That's not a bad idea, but I always recommend that guys spend more time on the Reports of Distinction. They're in there for a reason, including providing some of the best information and tips. It's just a more efficient way to spend your time as the main threads often include a lot of chitter chatter that you have to wade through in order to extract the best info. The RODs are the light and the way!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2630060]Post Covid Macau will not be open to anti Chinese persons as much as it was. Just see what has happened in Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the signs are ominous: ChangPing & HKG both met their fate. I have my fingers crossed on Macau, but I am not overly optimistic about the future there. I even have doubts about Thailand. But we shall see.

Meanwhile thank Buddha for Brazil. Maybe we shouldn't talk about it so much and try to keep it our little secret. Ha Ha, just joking. If it was not for the ISG and contributors like yourself and many others, too many to mention in this post, I would not have gone to Brazil and checked it out for myself back in April 2021. I am sure glad I did.

[URL]https://youtu.be/HYDbThcr2z4[/URL]

Then, Skyfall.

Bond: "Macau sex trade."

Severine: I want to suck your dick.

Now:

Bond, a white Brit, never gets into Macau.

File this under the literature of prostitution.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2630198]Yeah, the signs are ominous: ChangPing & HKG both met their fate. I have my fingers crossed on Macau, but I am not overly optimistic about the future there. I even have doubts about Thailand. But we shall see.

Meanwhile thank Buddha for Brazil. Maybe we shouldn't talk about it so much and try to keep it our little secret. Ha Ha, just joking. If it was not for the ISG and contributors like yourself and many others, too many to mention in this post, I would not have gone to Brazil and checked it out for myself back in April 2021. I am sure glad I did.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2630177]Next week I'll be making my first ever visit to SP. Admittedly I've haven't even been reading the forum here lately as I just left Medellin yesterday and been too busy with the chicas there. Back in the USA now for a few days and need to know entry requirements for my trip to Brazil. Do I need either an antigen or PCR negative test result to enter? Is there a CheckMig type app (Colombia requirement) I need to complete for entry?

I've read enough here over the last year to know the scene from afar. I have a list of clinicas to visit with some recommendations from guys I met in Medellin. And I'll probably be a regular evening visitor to Scandellos as my trip is only ten nights before returning to Medellin. I have no Portu speaking ability but my Spanish is good enough I rarely need to used translate except for a word here and there. So hope they are kind to me LOL.

Over the next couple days I'll read the last 25 or 30 pages of posts on this forum to catch up on the latest news and happenings.

Anybody in town and willing to help me learn the day scene and / or hitting Scandellos together please PM me. This is an expoloratory trip for me to see if I want to spend more time in Brazil this winter or just stay in Medellin again. Thanks![/QUOTE]This is what you need; "Passengers will be refused boarding if they do not hold a document confirming a negative RT-PCR test result issued within 72 hours prior to departure, or a negative antigenic test result issued within 24 hours prior to departure. The document must be issued by a laboratory recognized by the health authority of their country of residence and must be in Portuguese, English or Spanish".

You also have to fill this form, even if the link doesn't work now; "The Traveler Health Declaration (DSV) can be found at [URL]https://formulario.anvisa.gov.br/[/URL]."

When I was there the check-in agent wanted to see all the documents, but nobody asked for them in Brazil.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2630177]Next week I'll be making my first ever visit to SP. Admittedly I've haven't even been reading the forum here lately as I just left Medellin yesterday and been too busy with the chicas there. Back in the USA now for a few days and need to know entry requirements for my trip to Brazil. Do I need either an antigen or PCR negative test result to enter? Is there a CheckMig type app (Colombia requirement) I need to complete for entry?

I've read enough here over the last year to know the scene from afar. I have a list of clinicas to visit with some recommendations from guys I met in Medellin. And I'll probably be a regular evening visitor to Scandellos as my trip is only ten nights before returning to Medellin. I have no Portu speaking ability but my Spanish is good enough I rarely need to used translate except for a word here and there. So hope they are kind to me LOL.

Over the next couple days I'll read the last 25 or 30 pages of posts on this forum to catch up on the latest news and happenings.

Anybody in town and willing to help me learn the day scene and / or hitting Scandellos together please PM me. This is an expoloratory trip for me to see if I want to spend more time in Brazil this winter or just stay in Medellin again. Thanks![/QUOTE]I'm on the ground and will report back this weekend when I have some time. So far I've visited Clinicas, Cafe Photo and Casarao. I have met some online girls too. But tonight I'm heading to Scandallo to seek my ultimate goal, an 8 or above willing to provide BBFS. I will report back, and if I strike out tonight I will attempt tomorrow again.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2630311]This is what you need; "Passengers will be refused boarding if they do not hold a document confirming a negative RT-PCR test result issued within 72 hours prior to departure, or a negative antigenic test result issued within 24 hours prior to departure. The document must be issued by a laboratory recognized by the health authority of their country of residence and must be in Portuguese, English or Spanish".

You also have to fill this form, even if the link doesn't work now; "The Traveler Health Declaration (DSV) can be found at [URL]https://formulario.anvisa.gov.br/[/URL]."

When I was there the check-in agent wanted to see all the documents, but nobody asked for them in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Thanks Nordico that's exactly the info I was searching. I've had so many swabs up my nose the last 18 months I don't even care anymore LOL.

Documents are the same entering the USA As you show your negative antigen test result before boarding the flight to USA. Upon arrival there is no further check of that.

Or just stay in Brazil.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2630391]Thanks Nordico that's exactly the info I was searching. I've had so many swabs up my nose the last 18 months I don't even care anymore LOL.

Documents are the same entering the USA As you show your negative antigen test result before boarding the flight to USA. Upon arrival there is no check of that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2630324]I'm on the ground and will report back this weekend when I have some time. So far I've visited Clinicas, Cafe Photo and Casarao. I have met some online girls too. But tonight I'm heading to Scandallo to seek my ultimate goal, an 8 or above willing to provide BBFS. I will report back, and if I strike out tonight I will attempt tomorrow again.[/QUOTE]At the risk of starting a long STD convo. I understand if you do not think the risks to you are that concerning. But its very much like not being vaccinated - yes its a personal choice but its a choice that has implications for others. You risk your own health, of course, but you risk infecting other girls and by extension we board members who love Scandallo will also be at higher risk. I expect that you've already made up your mind, but may I suggest the following? Try out a non-BBFS session first, and then if everything goes well take a same-day STD test with the girl before going for BBFS. I can pretty much guarantee that the girl will be less worried / stressed and thus more excited if she knew you were safe. And vice versa.

I arrived early on Sunday for my second trip in SP. Easy to go through immigration and also getting an Uber. I took it from arrivals T3 as usual, and no pirate taxis were in sight this time.

I arrived at The Renaissance pretty early, before 8 am. Most rooms were not available but they accommodated me on a temporary room while a better option become available. I'm happy to report that things at the hotel seem operating at full speed once again, lots of people hanging around, including working girls at the bar LOL. This place remains my choice during trips here, great location, no issues with girls, I've walked in at 11:30 pm and another time at 2 am with girls and no issues or need to check them in.

Weather is warmer, could definitely use shorts if walking around Moema between Clinicas, and traffic also seems worse. Uber remains the choice of transportation with zero issue for me.

For the fun, I did some homework the week prior reaching out to online girls to schedule dates, as early as the night of my arrival.

Online Girls.

I saw Lia Gaucha on Sunday, can be found on Private55. I'm an ass guy, this girl has the biggest ass on a white girl I've enjoyed. She's a few pounds extra, but the majority of them are on her ass. The session was a bit mechanical, but I would repeat just to enjoy her tremendous butt.

Isadora Gaucha I saw her on Tuesday, she can be found on Twitter at Isadora_Gauchaa. Big tits and ass girl, her pics are accurate. As soon as she opened her door it was non stop kissing. I think her face is very pretty in person. Would see her again.

I saw Sofia Gaucha on Wednesday. Can you tell I like white girls with big butts? LOL. She's a bit elusive and luckily she happened to be available on same day notice. Her place is nice, modern. She's short, but very pretty and cute. Her body is very nice, and her kitty a pink delight. She likes talking a lot but she's worth the visit, especially if you like short curvy girls. Her Ig is at alee. Ruiva and her as is on Private55.

Clinicas.

I've visited Enjoy, Abbobora, Moema Prime and Mirunas. Quality remains high at Enjoy and Abbobora, just like last trip.

I sessioned with Amanda at Enjoy, this is a repeat. I beat a monger walking in by seconds when I picked her, guess what, when I was leaving after giving her a good pounding that required 2 phone calls from the desk to announce time was up he was still there waiting for her after LOL. Romantic isn't it?

Sessioned with Nicoli and Maite at Abbobora. Nicoli was fun and happy, her first day according to her. At some point she started doing a camel slide on my dick, so I thought she wanted to go BBFS, but she was just teasing. She was fun but nothing to brag about.

Maite I would skip. I ended the session in 20 min and took my losses. Her body seemed good with a nice butt and enhanced tits, she has an small belly, but the main issue was too mechanical and lack of chemistry. She barely kissed, lackluster BBBJ, when riding she asked me to cum fast, and when we switched to missionary wouldn't look at me. I stopped and took a shower, she tried to convince me to stay but I had another appointment later so no need to waste my pop.

Boates.

Cafe Photo.

I went on Monday night. I arrived around 10 pm, only about 5 guys and around 15 girls. Nice place, with live music that's actually good. I saw a negra that I wanted but a monger beat me to her, but I spotted another girl that looked pretty good and I asked her to come over to my table. Girls can't approach unless asked here, and the place is small enough to see them all from the main floor, so I like it. I finished my meal and kept talking with her, we agreed to come back to my hotel and after verifying test results from each other agreed on BBFS. The good thing about this place currently is there is no exit fee for girls, because rooms won't be ready in house for another 2 months. As far as my girl, she performed great, super intense and just what I wanted, super excited. I might see her again.

Casarao.

I went on Tuesday night and showed up around 11 pm. Very small place, not luxurious with a well mixed crowd, I don't think a lot of high paid Brazilian men visit this place. Talent was lacking, only a couple of girls I would do, but they were hoarded by the same guys the whole time I was there, without going for a session. Entry fee is 30 reals dry or 50 reals consumable. I had 2 drinks, paid about 100 reals and left empty handed.

Scandallo.

I went Wednesday night. 400 entry with 200 consumable. A lot of hot girls around 11 pm. I spotted about five 9's, busy of course, and quite a few 8's. Still a good amount of lower quality, but I have no complaints in talent. The place was rocking, I think better than September when I was there. Good amount of men too, but still enough girls to find your pick. I talked to a few girls and had serious conversations with 2. The first we sat at the couch, talked about different things and finally got to the details, she wanted 2000 to go back to my hotel, and no BBFS. I passed since both price and menu wasn't what I wanted, but took her number in case I changed my mind. Then I found another girl, slim body and cute face. Sat at the couch again and had good chemistry, we hit the breaking point of menu again, showed her my test results and eventually she agreed to come to my hotel for 1300 with BBFS, and stay until 6 am or so. I was about to relent and accept no BBFS but she just hugged me and agreed. She was great in bed, clean and tight, and stayed with me until past 9 am, I got her an Uber and sent her home. Super sweet girl, I even bought breakfast for us in bed since we hit it off very well.

So far so good, I might hit Scandallo again or Connection on Friday. The weekend I might repeat with the girls or go to Cafe Photo. It seems girls are motivated to make some extra money prior to the holidays, and many have told me they start vacation on mid December not to be back until the second week of January. So I think I will cancel my early January trip. Just a heads up in case you are planning on heading here around the holidays, do your prep work.

EB.

Only did one clinica: Prime.

The other nights were Scandallo, Bomboa, Lotus Lounge, and Cafe Photo or in-calls / repeats from contacts established at the aforementioned boates.

I had NO BAD sessions. Chemistry, skill set and preferences varied among all the girls, but I was legit satisfied with all of my experiences.

If I felt a situation or girl wasn't right for me, I moved on even and didn't let sunk costs, such as time or money spent on drinks, affect my decision.

There were a few signs of potential red flags, but I think I was able to smooth over any issues that could have turned south: one dulpa asked for the money up front for a pernoite, another was lukewarm during the "interview" and didn't want to shower together in the room, and another session was secured after a lengthy deliberation on cost and time.

The dulpa duo cited previous bad experiences as their rationale for requesting payment upfront. I told them my point of view, and reassured them of my capacity and intent to pay. I gave them a partial payment up front to assuage their concerns and the rest on the back end. I ended up repeating and the second time all funds were received on the back end, and there was no concern shown for accuracy of payment or time of services provided. Vibe and chemistry were perfect for what I was looking for, performance was solid.

One girl from Bomboa who I pursued rather aggressively seemed a bit meek in the boate area. She also didn't want to shower together in the room, However everything else was great. I guess that's just her personality and preference. She reminded me of a Brazilian pornstar, Kelly, I used to watch less Kelly's huge natural breasts.

I took one girl out from Cafe Photo: a stunning branca with light green eyes (contacts maybe?) She and my last scandallo girl looked like they could have been news anchors IMO. She was the only one that I had a long deliberation with on price / length of service. Fellow ISG member Besari took her friend, and the friends attempt at price collusion affected my negation. Eventually we settled on 1,000 from 2 h+. She wanted something a lot steeper on the opening gambit. I was concerned that the drawn out haggling would affect the performance. Ultimately I knew what I was offering was fair and that the night wasn't getting any longer. Fortunately we had a great session. She was amenable to the usual services, less anal. I believe she and her friend were newer to SP if I recall correctly.

Lotus Club was relatively dead. I did meet a girl there that looks like the actress Morena Baccarin. She had a subtle hotness that I liked. Natural and fit. We exchanged contact info and she came to my hotel a few days later. She was flexible on rate and fee. I had a great time with her, again no complaints. 3 h+ for 1000.

Bookended the trip with Scandallo trips. Both sessions were solid and were had for 800 and 700 respectively. I would have taken the second one out for a pernoite if I had the time. I'll definitely repeat on a future trip if the opportunity is there.

There's always "room for improvement", but this is probably the first time I'd say I had a perfect trip session wise with no duds. Following my own judgement, gauging chemistry and de-escalating issues that arose helped. I also tended not to negotiate prices too aggressively. I'll have a price range in mind that I think is fair for both parties that I won't deviate from, but I'm not trying to have the situation result in a win / lose or lose / win.

Also was able to link with a few ISG bros: Trojan, Besari, and SocratesNY. They elevated my experience and my trip would have been less successful without them.

I have RTFF going back over a year, but still have an earnest question for the experienced board members who have been to Scandallo (and other (not quite as good?) Sampa area clubs): are there ladies there in any significant number night in and night out who can speak passable English?

While I am semi-fluent in Spanish, I don't find (at least my level of) Spanish a reasonable substitute for Brazilian Porto. And I would not like my hopes / chances on finding the "needle in the haystack" English speaker. Yeah, yeah, I realize that cash / effectivo can do a lot of the speaking for me (along with a Google or other translator app), but as we all know, actually being able to communicate (at least a little) beyond $$ or stilted stiff translator app back and forth goes a long way in enhancing the chance for a stellar sessions or, indeed, sessions. Wish I were better at languages -- and can already hear the knee-jerk response that I simply need to learn some Portuguese; but answer me this, at least at those higher level clubs -- any ladies in any reasonable numbers that speak passable English?

[QUOTE=JackNimble;2630824]are there ladies there in any significant number night in and night out who can speak passable English?
yeah, I realize that cash / effectivo can do a lot of the speaking for me...but answer me this, at least at those higher level clubs -- any ladies in any reasonable numbers that speak passable English?[/QUOTE]Short answer: Of course!

With English speakers, anticipate an attempt at surcharge.

Great reports EverythingBlue and MixedSalad07 !!

I will be down in mid January but am planning a weekend to Buzios with the girl from Scandello that I spent the weekend with last time. Will also put in a report on how the weekend goes.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2630927]Short answer: Of course!

With English speakers, anticipate an attempt at surcharge.[/QUOTE]I met very few who had decent English. Maybe 2 out of the dozen girls I was with spoke English to last longer than a super basic conversation.

Good report. The places you went give you a chance to interact to get a vibe which is good. How much was the dupla for pernoite? I think I will do similar to you when I go. Probably try one or two of the top Clinica's and than focus on clubs.

[QUOTE=MixedSalad07;2630637]Only did one clinica: Prime.

The other nights were Scandallo, Bomboa, Lotus Lounge, and Cafe Photo or in-calls / repeats from contacts established at the aforementioned boates.

I had NO BAD sessions. Chemistry, skill set and preferences varied among all the girls, but I was legit satisfied with all of my experiences.

If I felt a situation or girl wasn't right for me, I moved on even and didn't let sunk costs, such as time or money spent on drinks, affect my decision.

There were a few signs of potential red flags, but I think I was able to smooth over any issues that could have turned south: one dulpa asked for the money up front for a pernoite, another was lukewarm during the "interview" and didn't want to shower together in the room, and another session was secured after a lengthy deliberation on cost and time.

The dulpa duo cited previous bad experiences as their rationale for requesting payment upfront. I told them my point of view, and reassured them of my capacity and intent to pay. I gave them a partial payment up front to assuage their concerns and the rest on the back end. I ended up repeating and the second time all funds were received on the back end, and there was no concern shown for accuracy of payment or time of services provided. Vibe and chemistry were perfect for what I was looking for, performance was solid...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JackNimble;2630824]I have RTFF going back over a year, but still have an earnest question for the experienced board members who have been to Scandallo (and other (not quite as good?) Sampa area clubs): are there ladies there in any significant number night in and night out who can speak passable English?

While I am semi-fluent in Spanish, I don't find (at least my level of) Spanish a reasonable substitute for Brazilian Porto. And I would not like my hopes / chances on finding the "needle in the haystack" English speaker. Yeah, yeah, I realize that cash / effectivo can do a lot of the speaking for me (along with a Google or other translator app), but as we all know, actually being able to communicate (at least a little) beyond $$ or stilted stiff translator app back and forth goes a long way in enhancing the chance for a stellar sessions or, indeed, sessions. Wish I were better at languages -- and can already hear the knee-jerk response that I simply need to learn some Portuguese; but answer me this, at least at those higher level clubs -- any ladies in any reasonable numbers that speak passable English?[/QUOTE]Rextor is right. Very few speak English. That said it's the wrong question. Can you have an awesome time w zero Porto? Absolutely. I'the say 80% of the posters here have little to none and are killing it anyhow. Also the conversation mode on Google translate is amazing. No awkward typing. Each just speaks in native language out loud and it auto translates. Works amazingly well and much more fluid.

Does anyone know for certain if SP will host Carnival this coming year? My internet searches are not clear on the answer.

Thanks,

GF.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2631072]Also the conversation mode on Google translate is amazing. No awkward typing. Each just speaks in native language out loud and it auto translates. Works amazingly well and much more fluid.[/QUOTE]I just tried this app feature out, and it is quite amazing indeed! After setting your two languages, all you have to do is speak into the device and it will translate what you said, either as text or spoken aloud (or both depending on your settings). No more typing for me! Well, I probably will want to be a little more discreet when I say that I like oral without a condom and anal sex LOLOLOL!

You don't really need Portuguese to have fun until maybe you want to get to the next level. There were times that I just avoided saying too much in messages because it could lead to confusion even using a translator so I ended up sticking with basic stuff and not talk too much.

[QUOTE=JackNimble;2630824]... at least at those higher level clubs -- any ladies in any reasonable numbers that speak passable English?[/QUOTE]Higher level clubs just mean the girl appearance is better and change more. Logically speaking, beauty, brain, and prostitute is a rare combination. There are just not that many that can also speak English. It's a low percentage, other people can get it, but it does not mean you will too. Because once the girl is taken, you have to wait for your turn if she is released.

I met three that speak English at various levels. Only one who prostitutes internationally speaks English fluently. You can get her online for 300 less than what she charges at Scandallo. One is a college student but her English is very basic. Another one I met at 4 x4 and said she worked at Scandallo when we were in the room using translator. She practically jammed her tongue down my throat that I have to take her to the room. LOL The other monger that I went with who lives in Centro told me later that she started from trash club. But she is very hot. This one texts me in English that I believe using translator even when I text in Portuguese.

[QUOTE=GoneFishin;2631074]Does anyone know for certain if SP will host Carnival this coming year? My internet searches are not clear on the answer.

Thanks,

GF.[/QUOTE]

Sao Paulo Carnival 2022.
[url]https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/brazilian-mayors-torn-carnival-pandemic-safety-81397010[/url]

[url]https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2021/11/24/58-brazilian-cities-cancel-carnival-rio-sao-paulo-ok/[/url]
[URL]https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2021/11/cidades-do-interior-de-sp-cancelam-carnaval-por-causa-da-covid.shtml[/URL]
[url]https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2021/11/cidades-do-interior-de-sp-cancelam-carnaval-por-causa-da-covid.shtml[/url]

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2631199]Sao Paulo Carnival 2022.
[url]https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/brazilian-mayors-torn-carnival-pandemic-safety-81397010[/url]

[url]https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2021/11/24/58-brazilian-cities-cancel-carnival-rio-sao-paulo-ok/[/url]
[URL]https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2021/11/cidades-do-interior-de-sp-cancelam-carnaval-por-causa-da-covid.shtml[/URL]
[url]https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2021/11/cidades-do-interior-de-sp-cancelam-carnaval-por-causa-da-covid.shtml[/url][/QUOTE]I have been to Sao Paulo's carnival. Thousands of bodies jammed tightly together. Very pandemic friendly.

IMO, Brazil is the easiest Latin American country to get by with little knowledge of the native language. In most cases there's not as much to negotiate except money. Maybe anal and / or BBFS. Other services like DFK, BBBJ, etc. Are pretty much standard service, unlike other countries.

I'll be visiting Scandellos a few times next week and just wondering how I should prepare to dress. Can I just dress very comfortable in shorts and t-shirt or should I plan to look nicer with button down shirts and jeans? What do most guys wear at this club? Is it mostly open air or inside and air-conditioned? TIA.

Steve I tried to PM you with this question but you're at your limit of messages

[QUOTE=JackNimble;2630824]I have RTFF going back over a year, but still have an earnest question for the experienced board members who have been to Scandallo (and other (not quite as good?) Sampa area clubs): are there ladies there in any significant number night in and night out who can speak passable English?

While I am semi-fluent in Spanish, I don't find (at least my level of) Spanish a reasonable substitute for Brazilian Porto. And I would not like my hopes / chances on finding the "needle in the haystack" English speaker. Wish I were better at languages -- and can already hear the knee-jerk response that I simply need to learn some Portuguese; but answer me this, at least at those higher level clubs -- any ladies in any reasonable numbers that speak passable English?[/QUOTE]I speak Spanish, but very little Portugues, and I've had incredible experiences in Brasil over the years. I wouldn't go out of your way to find an English speaking chick. It's just not necessary. If you speak Spanish, they will generally understand what you're saying. However, you won't understand what they're saying. But it won't really matter that much. You will find ways to communicate -- thousands of guys have been in the same situation and done just fine.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2631289]I'll be visiting Scandellos a few times next week and just wondering how I should prepare to dress. Can I just dress very comfortable in shorts and t-shirt or should I plan to look nicer with button down shirts and jeans? What do most guys wear at this club? Is it mostly open air or inside and air-conditioned? TIA.

Steve I tried to PM you with this question but you're at your limit of messages[/QUOTE]Sorry. Cleared inbox. In brief I'd dress to impress. Don't need a sport coat but long pants, nice shirt, nice shoes is what I'd recommend. I know a lot of guys say it's purely a money game but there are lotsa guys there and the hot girls can pick and choose. My rule of thumb is always look your best and make her feel good about the date if you want the best outcome.

Unfortunately, that is my time frame to visit. Just wanted to know what was decided. I may just end up in Portugal and Spain instead.

GF.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2631229]I have been to Sao Paulo's carnival. Thousands of bodies jammed tightly together. Very pandemic friendly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CatBert55;2631272]IMO, Brazil is the easiest Latin American country to get by with little knowledge of the native language.......[/QUOTE]That's so with regards to p4p. Your comment made me recall my one time visit during carnival. There were so many approachable non-pro women walking the streets looking for guys to party with. I tried my luck but these babes weren't looking for guys walking around with google translate to have fun with. I thought to myself, if only I knew the native lingo. Ah well.

[QUOTE=Markon;2631064]Good report. The places you went give you a chance to interact to get a vibe which is good. How much was the dupla for pernoite?.[/QUOTE]I paid 3 K per night. I met them in Scandallo, so that inflates the price a bit which I understood. Wasn't too price sensitive as I was in town to celebrate. Anaggie's past trip report gave me inspiration to try something like this over a more extended period. I'd refer back to some of his old posts as well. Initially I was just looking for a weekend companion, not a dulpa. I kind of got nudged into the situation by a wing man, and it ended up working out very well.

Most girls in Scandallo who I showed an interest in started off the negotiations for a per noite at 2K. One Paulista told me that she didn't do pernoites. Of course YMMV.

Good luck!

I got this website sent to me via WhatsApp and maybe it can help someone out.

[URL]https://melhoreskamas.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MixedSalad07;2630637]One girl from Bomboa who I pursued rather aggressively seemed a bit meek in the boate area. She also didn't want to shower together in the room, However everything else was great. I guess that's just her personality and preference. She reminded me of a Brazilian pornstar, Kelly, I used to watch less Kelly's huge natural breasts.[/QUOTE]Ahhh, Kelly. Kelly is simply the winner of the genetic mega-lottery. Pretty face, big large breasts and a big firm ass. For those of us young enough to remember, she was literally built like Playboy's running comic character Little Annie Fanny. Who would think there was women like this.

Kelly used to knock around Copacabana in the mid-2000's. I didn't run into her at Help Disco. (I'm guessing she was gobbled up early if she showed up.) We ran into her on a rainy non-beach day hanging out at Meia Pataca. She was wearing a baggy, matching sweat outfit. I called her over to our table. I steered one of my buddies who likes big, natural breasts to take her home for a midday hook-up. The crew thought she looked a bit chubby in her non-revealing clothing. I was apparently the only one who knew who she was (and what her body looked like underneath her baggy clothing). I told them every pound was accounted for in dramatic fashion in her breasts and ass.

My buddy went home with her and had a great time. At Meia Pataca, Kelly was a very cool, friendly chick. Kinda regret not taking her home myself.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2632115]I got this website sent to me via WhatsApp and maybe it can help someone out.

[URL]https://melhoreskamas.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]I also got sent a website.

[URL]http://www.lencontro.com.br/[/URL]

Does anyone have experience with SA / seeking on here? Some good candidates but I've haven't tried yet.

I'm leaning towards an Airbnb rental over hotel. Assuming I clear it with the owner. I plan on booking one for 3 guests, are there any other negatives to using one?. Would an independent escort be more reluctant to visit an Airbnb over a hotel? I've used Airbnb only in Ireland and England with mixed results. The place I had in England had an issue with the heater.

I just got back from completing my second trip to SP. Overall it was a good trip, the highlight was finally experiencing Scandallo's potential. But first, some final comments.

SP seems to be improving along quite nicely since the pandemic has eased, I don't get the same sense of concern among people anymore, which to me is great. I know many are stilling sitting on the sidelines, and if you are because you prefer social distancing, then remain where you are. I saw full capacity bars and restaurants, hotels are definitely getting full again, and our beloved Scandallo was rocking Wednesday and Friday night. I imagine next year's Carnival will be incredible.

The more I monger in Brazil the less appealing Clinicas become, I think I'm starting to see more appeal in finding a stunning girl at a boate and enjoying time together, have a mini relationship if you want to call it that, versus being with many girls for short sessions in Clinicas.

I had planned to repeat with an online girl from my prior trip, but she ghosted me, and so on Friday I head back to Scandallo. I arrived around 10:30 pm feeling a little hungry, so I went to the dining room for a quick bite. I spotted a few hot girls, some already giving me looks, some already taken unfortunately. But I had the feeling the talent would be quite high this night, and I was right.

Once I finished I got up and grabbed a drink. I walked the place a couple of times to spot the talent, and then came back around to the club area. First I talked to a couple of girls, including a 19 year old that says she's being doing this for 5 months, and that she will do "tudo" in bed except anal, that she's saving that for her future husband. She quotes 1000 for an hour or 2000 to come back to my hotel. I decided to take her number and pass. Other girls approach me, and some become hard to shake off, but I politely say I'm not interested in talking to them, and if they insist I head to the restroom and keep moving.

Finally, here comes this girl wearing a tight sexy dress that accentuated her fit body, beautiful green eyes, branca skin and a perfect butt. Our eyes locked in for a couple of seconds and we both smiled, I lost her for a moment and thought I had lost her to another monger, but when I found her again our eyes stayed locked in this time, until we embraced for a hug and a kiss.

We settled down to talk on the couches for what seemed like minutes even though it was close to an hour and half, eventually I approached the topic of service and compensation, I asked about kissing and she said joking that the only thing I had to worry about is if I was a bad kisser, only one way to find out then, we made out right there and then. She was adamant about no BBFS, and started her rate to come to my hotel at 2000, I was only able to bring her down to 1500, which to me was well worth the price of admission for this fine 26 year old lady.

WOW. Service at my hotel was incredible, we fucked like 2 lovers full of passion. We had so much chemistry it was crazy. It's the experience I had been waiting to find, and there it was, finally. She stayed with me for about 3 and half hours, my only complaint is I would've liked her to sleep in, but she's not the type to be tamed easily.

The next day I thought about bringing her over again, but we couldn't agree on price. So I decided to try Scandallo again, this time my luck ran out, quality was pretty low around midnight Saturday when I left empty handed, regretting not seeing my dear lover from the night before. More disappointed knowing that this could have been the last night to see her again, since I had to head back to the States Monday night.

But I'm a persistent monger, and so on Sunday we met up again, we visited Skye Bar for dinner and drinks, and then headed back to my hotel. A fellow monger recommended the place for great views and fancy setting, and it sure hit the spot. Once again she performed admirably in bed, but the level of connection and our conversations made me feel like I was indeed hanging out with a girlfriend. Brazilian girls are the best at this, no doubt. I hated having to say good bye, I really enjoyed my time with her a lot. And so, in short, yes Scandallo is the place to find the one, the place to find a gold mine.

On the topic of BBFS, I was able to acquire it by both negotiating upfront at Boates and even from online girls by repeating and stating what I wanted during the session. Offering a little extra helps with some, others just being cool and friendly, but definitely being able to talk a bit of Portoespanol helped. I'm not sure I could've pulled this off using only Google Translate.

Lastly, I spoke to quite a few girls about Christmas and New Years holidays, and sure enough most will be out starting around Dec. 20 and until around January 5, so be mindful about this and plan ahead if you decide to come out then. Me, I will cancel my trip. Maybe I'll be back after Carnaval, many girls told me they don't enjoy it as much, since it's too crowded. We'll see. Until the next time.

EB.

[QUOTE=Markon;2632588]I'm leaning towards an Airbnb rental over hotel. Assuming I clear it with the owner....[/QUOTE]Hotel is more straightforward. Airbnb will depend more on the building security and probably your Portuguese ability. If you are in a building with security, the security shift at night may not even recognized you so it is a hassle to get thru that with the girl if that happens. If the building has no security, then there is no problem.

Everything Blue I sure enjoyed your write up. So happy to see you come to the Boate side of the fence. It's sooo amazing if you have the coin. I notice more guys doing the takeout — I've only done the hourly st Scandalo. May have to give it a try when I get back.

I don't know if you are a USA guy but let me say if you are that Seeking Arrangement is AMAZING for true GFE in the states. By true GFE I mean more than just DFK and BBBJ — a true and whole girlfriend experience including dinner and nightlife and sleeping over. I am going to be seeing Kayla for the fifth long weekend since I discovered her in August (Miami). Doing 500/24 hrs and she is a solid nine. Done a ton of 7-9's in the past two pandemic years on SA. It's amazing.

See the thread under General and Dating Agencies for more or PM me. Thanks again for your contribution to the forum!

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2632648]I just got back from completing my second trip to SP. Overall it was a good trip, the highlight was finally experiencing Scandallo's potential. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the good report. Nice read.

Does anyone have experience with SA in SP? I tried to hit up a few girls but I am not sure what the price range is and what the usual expectations are.

I should add that I am a newbie in SA.

Thanks guys.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2632648]SP seems to be improving along quite nicely since the pandemic has eased, [/QUOTE]Well this fucking immigration line is not improving any. I have never seen so many people in a line in my life. It is 8 am. I will be lucky to get out of here by nightfall.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2633091]Well this fucking immigration line is not improving any. I have never seen so many people in a line in my life. It is 8 am. I will be lucky to get out of here by nightfall.[/QUOTE]Are the policia federal on one of their strikes (working to rule) again?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2633091]Well this fucking immigration line is not improving any. I have never seen so many people in a line in my life. It is 8 am. I will be lucky to get out of here by nightfall.[/QUOTE]Holy crap. Was that to enter or leave the country? Why the backup?

Great report below. I prefer the same as you. I would rather pay for a weekend with the same girl with on demand services rather than go on the hunt for whenever the itch strikes.

[QUOTE=Markon;2632588]I'm leaning towards an Airbnb rental over hotel. Assuming I clear it with the owner. I plan on booking one for 3 guests, are there any other negatives to using one?. Would an independent escort be more reluctant to visit an Airbnb over a hotel? I've used Airbnb only in Ireland and England with mixed results. The place I had in England had an issue with the heater.[/QUOTE]Girls are ok with AirbnB but make sure the AirbnB you are renting allows visits. Heater can be an issue in SP during the (Southern hemisphere) winter.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2633091]Well this fucking immigration line is not improving any. I have never seen so many people in a line in my life. It is 8 am. I will be lucky to get out of here by nightfall.[/QUOTE]It was arriving into the country. Seemed to be plenty of immigration agents, just many more people. It took 2 and a half hours to get through. When all the Brazilians finished they opened up that side for foreigners, then I was at the right place at the right time when dude opened the thing to let people near the back go to the Brazilian side.

Then the chick that I am staying with picked me up. Her house is 30 km from the airport. Took us like 2 hours to get here. She is a taxi driver and seriously asked me isn't every city in the world like this. NO bich, IT IS NOT! I would never leave the house if I had to endure some shit like this everyday.

[QUOTE=XXL;2633206]Girls are ok with AirbnB but make sure the AirbnB you are renting allows visits. Heater can be an issue in SP during the (Southern hemisphere) winter.[/QUOTE]Better make sure more things than allowing visitors. Just went downstairs in old girl's house to take a shower and was like what the literal fuck?! I thought I had seen it all. Why would anyone do that? She has some neighbor lady down there taking it down now so a normal person can fit.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2633291]Just went downstairs in old girl's house to take a shower and was like what the literal fuck?! I thought I had seen it all. Why would anyone do that? She has some neighbor lady down there taking it down now so a normal person can fit.[/QUOTE]The guys constructing bathrooms in Brazil are no genius. I've seem so many weird bathrooms. The toilet placed partly under the sink so you had to sit sideways (unless you're very short), wall sockets next to the showers, shower cabins so small that you couldn't close the door, a bathroom ceiling in a pousada was made of glass so the neighbours could watch you and not to forget all the showers with electric heaters that gives you electric shocks.

[QUOTE=Chege;2633043]Does anyone have experience with SA in SP? I tried to hit up a few girls but I am not sure what the price range is and what the usual expectations are.

I should add that I am a newbie in SA.

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]You should go to the Seeking Arrangements thread under Dating Agencies. There's a few guys who work predominantly work SA. These guys on that thread offer all sorts of tips on how to communicate and how to engage.

For whatever reason, they are not too keen on Brazil for SA. Perhaps the availability of pros / semi-pros and various mongering venues competes with SA. I'm sure there are some sugar baby relationships with sugar daddies in the higher echelons of Brazil. There always is, but the advantage of SA is that it has more attainable sugar babies.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2633596]You should go to the Seeking Arrangements thread under Dating Agencies. There's a few guys who work predominantly work SA. These guys on that thread offer all sorts of tips on how to communicate and how to engage.

For whatever reason, they are not too keen on Brazil for SA. Perhaps the availability of pros / semi-pros and various mongering venues competes with SA. I'm sure there are some sugar baby relationships with sugar daddies in the higher echelons of Brazil. There always is, but the advantage of SA is that it has more attainable sugar babies.[/QUOTE]Yes as Wyatt says def check out our Seeking thread here on SA. It's pretty active but mostly with USA at the moment with travel restrictions. You will have to go back several pages to find guides and tips. Or if you just want to read about some great sex check out my post recently about unexpected lesbian duo.

I do think SP might not be the best place for Seeking because:

1. It has a great paid sex scene. Boates and CLínicas. There is less need for Seeking.

2. Most girls speak little to no English and a dinner date (a nice part of seeking) is considerably less fun in that circumstance.

As far as price I have found that if you know hourly hooker prices this might be a good expectation for an evening PPM (pay per meet) with a Seeking girl. So if say R500-600 is a good high end one hour experience in SP then you might expect to find good SA girls for a whole evening at that price. It is much more like dating tho. How long she stays and if she sleeps over is totally up to her and how much she likes you. Because the pay is the same.

I was involved in a bar fight and was arrested at the airport while trying to leave the country. I'm in that hotel / jail at Garuhlos. I still have access to my phone and computer. If you know an attorney in Sao Paulo please inbox me the info. Obrigado.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2630626]I arrived early on Sunday for my second trip in SP. Easy to go through immigration and also getting an Uber. I took it from arrivals T3 as usual, and no pirate taxis were in sight this time.
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So far so good, I might hit Scandallo again or Connection on Friday. The weekend I might repeat with the girls or go to Cafe Photo. It seems girls are motivated to make some extra money prior to the holidays, ..

EB.[/QUOTE]Excellent report sir, very informative!

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[QUOTE=Kib123;2633812]Belated thank you. Will check these out.[/QUOTE]Don't forget this one: [URL]https://mclass.com/.[/URL] "Nanda" looks like one of those Asian beauties we've been talking about!

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2633781]I was involved in a bar fight and was arrested at the airport while trying to leave the country. I'm in that hotel / jail at Garuhlos. I still have access to my phone and computer. If you know an attorney in Sao Paulo please inbox me the info. Obrigado.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming you are an American citizen. If so, you should contact the United States Consulate in Sao Paolo for help:

[URL]https://br.usembassy.gov/embassy-consulates/saopaulo/[/URL]

USA Citizens with emergencies, please call (61) 3312-7400.

Outside of Office Hours, contact: (61) 3312-7400.

I remembering reading some SIM card (cheep) saga reports. Although I have T-Mobile with free international roaming, the data speed is crap. So I just got into SP and decided to get a SIM card. There is a news stand one block away from CLínica Prime that sells all the carriers (Vivo, TIM etc) prepaid SIM cards. I got the Vivo which was for 3 Gb and unlimited phone? For 15 are. The other carriers were also 15 r. Not sure what the duration is, maybe a month? No passport, CPF, bank account, address, mother maiden name. Just gave the guy 15 r cash and got the SIM. I inserted it into my phone and within a few minutes, it's working.

This is address of news stand.

Av. Iraí, 297 - Moema, São Paulo. SP, 04082-000, Brazil.

Oh before this. Last night, I went to the Vivo store on the 3rd floor in the Moema mall, showed them my CPF and passport, took a ticket number, waited and then the guy tells me the SIM activating system is down. Hahaha.

Field report. I just arrived at this club. The door is checking vaccination cards! I was shocked and not prepared. First time have been asked for vaccination here. I didn't bring my paper card. But I showed my New York State COVID app and that was ok. There were a bunch of locals outside who couldn't get in. Inside is completely empty at 10:27 p on a Saturday. Probably took everybody by surprised.

OK. I spoke too soon. Casarão was empty at 10:30 p but good numbers by 11:30 p. New girls were coming even at midnight, so definitely a late night place. Entry was 30 r with no consumption. Or 50 r, all consumption. Beers was 20 r. Mixed crowd of young and old. Better music than Scandallo, a mixed of rock. I saw two Clínica prime girls working at this boate, one spinner who I have been with several time before. Funny meeting her. Maybe 30-40 girls. Average girl is definitely less than Scandallo average. But there are some hotties. I took a early 20's branca thin blonde with perfect breasts. Her initial ask was 400 r for half hour or 500 r for one hour. I ask if she kissed and she immediately DFKed me and I just counter 400 r for one hour and she agreed. All GFE session. The room was 80 r for one hour and was good. It's next door. You have to pay your bill and they give a white wristband if you want to come back. Room setup like Scandallo with glass shower and toilet, but room was smaller and not as nice.

I also went into the American Balneário club next door to check it out. Cover was 20 r. It was empty. Maybe 6 not cute girls. Só skip it. Augusta Ave was packed with young party kids. Some of the clubs had over 100 people waiting on line on the streets. A few decent looking bars if you want just want a drink with the locals. Also there were a bunch late night food places that were still open at 2 am when I left.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2633647]Yes as Wyatt says def check out our Seeking thread here on SA. It's pretty active but mostly with USA at the moment with travel restrictions. You will have to go back several pages to find guides and tips. Or if you just want to read about some great sex check out my post recently about unexpected lesbian duo.

I do think SP might not be the best place for Seeking because:

1. It has a great paid sex scene. Boates and CLnicas. There is less need for Seeking.

2. Most girls speak little to no English and a dinner date (a nice part of seeking) is considerably less fun in that circumstance.

As far as price I have found that if you know hourly hooker prices this might be a good expectation for an evening PPM (pay per meet) with a Seeking girl. So if say R500-600 is a good high end one hour experience in SP then you might expect to find good SA girls for a whole evening at that price. It is much more like dating tho. How long she stays and if she sleeps over is totally up to her and how much she likes you. Because the pay is the same.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys for your feedback.

I will place my questions in the SA Thread, I just didn't see any Brazil topics there that's why I thought I should place it in SP Thread.

I also thought about 700 - 1000 Reais should do for PPM.

I will report back my experiences if they let me in the country in January.

[QUOTE=Chege;2634954]Thanks guys for your feedback.

I will place my questions in the SA Thread, I just didn't see any Brazil topics there that's why I thought I should place it in SP Thread.

I also thought about 700 - 1000 Reais should do for PPM.

I will report back my experiences if they let me in the country in January.[/QUOTE]I will try SA next week when I arrive. YMMV though because I'm in my late 20's so not sure what to expect.

[QUOTE=Kfranchie;2634970]I will try SA next week when I arrive. YMMV though because I'm in my late 20's so not sure what to expect.[/QUOTE]What's the appeal with SA? No guarantee sex cost the same if not more. SA girls are all semi pros which can be found in boates also for 3000-10000 R month and a girl I use see in the boate got a hook for 50,000 R a month for 3 months.

BTW, if you don't live in BR guess what she is doing when you're not around.

[QUOTE=Hobbying;2635237]What's the appeal with SA? No guarantee sex cost the same if not more. SA girls are all semi pros which can be found in boates also for 3000-10000 R month and a girl I use see in the boate got a hook for 50,000 R a month for 3 months.

BTW, if you don't live in BR guess what she is doing when you're not around.[/QUOTE]I will also frequent Scandalo to see what all the hype is about. Just trying different avenues.

[QUOTE=Hobbying;2635237]What's the appeal with SA? No guarantee sex cost the same if not more. SA girls are all semi pros which can be found in boates also for 3000-10000 R month and a girl I use see in the boate got a hook for 50,000 R a month for 3 months.[/QUOTE]Not sure he is looking for a long term semi-exclusive relationship.

Almost all the girls in the boates, online, and clinicas are open to mini relationships and "dates" as you can read from the many reports. Offer them a trip to Rio or Europe, and they will jump at it since many of girls have not been any where. I asked a Scandallo girl if she wanted to have dinner before sex, and she said yes. I didn't paid for her extra time, just her food and drinks. For Brazil, I see seeking as just another way to contact girls. There is also Twitter. I have a list of 70 girls on Twitter that I haven't even contacted yet. In countries like the USA, seeking plays a much bigger role since prostitution is illegal. In countries there it is legal like Brazil or Germany, I think it will play a much smaller part unless if the girls on seeking speak English, that would be a big plus since very few girls speak English well. Also in Brazil many of these girls are not full "pros" and have other jobs or school. One of my regular girls works in the hospital and her shifts are 12 h every other day and she told me I can see her on any of her days off. Another is a medical student.

I think 1000 r for most or all the night is a fair deal. I find that 200-250 r per hour is the sweet spot. Of course if you are Porto fluent and a local, you can do a lot better.

[QUOTE=Hobbying;2635237]What's the appeal with SA? No guarantee sex cost the same if not more. SA girls are all semi pros which can be found in boates also for 3000-10000 R month and a girl I use see in the boate got a hook for 50,000 R a month for 3 months.

BTW, if you don't live in BR guess what she is doing when you're not around.[/QUOTE]My main goal is to get a Woman for short trips to Buzios or other nice places with a non pro. My experience is that a GP is nice and fun for max. A pernoite then they mostly have their schedule and are not into short pretended relationships.

Well I don't know if I don't try right.

[URL]https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equilibrioesaude/2021/12/doria-diz-que-vai-adotar-passaporte-vacinal-em-sp-em-15-de-dezembro.shtml?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=comptw[/URL]

“Governor Joao Doria (PSDB) stated that, if the federal government does not adhere to the vaccination passport by December 15, the document will be required throughout Sao Paulo as from that date.

According to the governor, the document will be required for anyone entering the state by any means, whether through airports, ports or road.

"Brazil cannot become a tourist paradise for deniers. The denial of this country only exists in the minds of this minister (of Health, Marcelo Queiroga) and the president. If by December 15 the federal government does not adopt the passport, Sao Paulo will adopt", said Doria”.

I wasn't planning to Casarão tonight. I had a girl who I met previously at connections and then again in a CLínica this week, come over to my place in the evening for a few hours. She mentioned she was going to work at Sasarão after our session and asked if I wanted to go. Why not. So I dumped my initial plan for Scandallo and we took an Uber together to Casarão. Got there at 11 pm. Tonight weds night was completely different than sat night. It was super crowded. There were maybe 100-150 girls, a very good live band and striptease show every hour. For those who don't know, this club is actually two levels (which I didn't know in my first visit). There is a lower level from the stairs next to the first floor men's bathroom, the lower level is more lounge but almost as large as the first floor. Both levels were packed. A club atmosphere with good music, girls were dancing and drinking, some girls in just a bikini on top and several girls with see thru clothes. Might be too crowded for some and definitely more guys than girls, and of course the average girl rating in much better in Scandallo. But it was fun and I estimate it's half the cost of Scandallo. I didn't even session tonight even though there were some hot girls. I was pretty drained from 3 intense Clínicas sessions during the day and then the 2+ hours with my evening girl. I really envy those you can move here for work or retire with so many different avenues to meet girls.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2635753][URL]https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equilibrioesaude/2021/12/doria-diz-que-vai-adotar-passaporte-vacinal-em-sp-em-15-de-dezembro.shtml?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=comptw[/URL]

Governor Joao Doria (PSDB) stated that, if the federal government does not adhere to the vaccination passport by December 15, the document will be required throughout Sao Paulo as from that date.

According to the governor, the document will be required for anyone entering the state by any means, whether through airports, ports or road.

"Brazil cannot become a tourist paradise for deniers. The denial of this country only exists in the minds of this minister (of Health, Marcelo Queiroga) and the president. If by December 15 the federal government does not adopt the passport, Sao Paulo will adopt", said Doria.[/QUOTE]People is SP still take COVID seriously. I believe the case numbers are now pretty low and high rates of vaccinations. Most people still wear masks outdoors and definitely inside buildings. And more vaccination requirements in clubs and other venues.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2635888]I really envy those you can move here for work or retire with so many different avenues to meet girls.[/QUOTE]I won't be moving to Brazil, but once retirement gets here, I will have 100% flexibility that I don't have now, and will be taking plenty trips as I will be free to go down there whenever I want to. Believe this.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2635890]People is SP still take COVID seriously. I believe the case numbers are now pretty low and high rates of vaccinations. Most people still wear masks outdoors and definitely inside buildings. And more vaccination requirements in clubs and other venues.[/QUOTE]Nobody wears a mask in the Boates except the staff. It is also interesting to see who wears and who does not wear a mask on swanky Jardim streets like are. Oscar Freire. My observations were that it was mostly affluent young men and poor homeless people who walked around mask less. Out on the street I wore my mask below my chin most of the time and nobody bothered me.

P.S. One night with the windows open, I wore my mask below my chin on an Uber ride to Scandallo. The next morning I received a text message from Uber warning me that if I violated their mask rule one more time my account "might" be cancelled. I wore my mask properly on all subsequent Uber rides. Ha Ha.

P.S. S. Some hotels, restaurants, and shopping malls require a temperature check before entry. Get vaxed before you go to Brazil.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2636014]I won't be moving to Brazil, but once retirement gets here, I will have 100% flexibility that I don't have now, and will be taking plenty trips as I will be free to go down there whenever I want to. Believe this.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I don't know about retiring and living in Brazil full time, but lengthy stays and visiting the country several times a year sounds pretty good to me.

Just got to Scandallo early before 9 pm. No vaccination check. It seems Scandallo has never followed COVID regulations throughout pandemic. I guess that they have deep pockets to generously gift to the police.