Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Navdude;1295834]Tried the search option to find online dating sites to find non pro chicas near Puerto Plata and Sosua. I failed can anyone help.[/QUOTE]There are a million of them (chicas, not sites, I mean). How are you going to know they are non-pros? And why does that matter to you? In fact 95% will be pros or semi-pros.

My friend's live-in partner was a pro and use to get over a thousand contacts a month so I wouldn't invest too much of your time on it.

Not sure how much genuine info you can collect online. My advice would be to hang round the trendier bars in Puerto Plata and pick up girls "in the flesh". You can get a better sense of what you are getting for your money. If you do the same in Sosua you will find only putas. There are semi-pros there but they are best picked up in the side streets on their way to and from work. Pto Pta is better for non-pros and semi-pros, though.

You won't get in a non-pro's knickers on a short trip unless you have got something going for you. What have you got?

[QUOTE=Balls Rawls;1295775]Well, I headed down a few weeks ago to see what all the fuss was about. I didn't have a bad time per se, but I'm just not sure I'll be back. The reason is, there are too many hookers. A lot of towns around the world don't allow street prostitution, and now I know why. It has nothing to do with morality, it's because street prostitution is fucking irritating. I want a place where a man can drink a beer, watch sports center, and chat with his friends in peace, without an endless parade of putas interrupting. Sosua is not that kind of place.[/QUOTE]Not trying to bust your Balls, but here we have a little saying: RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum). I think you would have saved yourself a lot of time and money had you spent some time reading up on Sosua before you decided to visit.

[QUOTE=Balls Rawls;1295775] A lot of towns around the world don't allow street prostitution, and now I know why. It has nothing to do with morality, it's because street prostitution is fucking irritating. [/QUOTE]

For the same reason you found "street prostitution" to be irritating happens to be the main draw of the place for 99.9% of the guys who go to Sosua.

I sort of agree with Balls Rawls and it is why in five years of visiting the North Coast and two years of living here I visit Sosua increasingly rarely and have never passed the night there once in that time. It attracts trash from all over the island.

But on the other hand, on my occasional visits there, always to meet up with specific friends, I usually enjoy myself. I am a frail old guy of 72 but I soon learned to "manage" the street-life so it did not annoy, or even less threaten, me, so there is no reason why a more agile, younger guy cannot do the same. As ever, you get back what you put in. If you are thin-skinned or short-tempered you won't enjoy yourself as much as someone who is laid back and takes people as he finds them.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1295852]Not trying to bust your Balls, but here we have a little saying: RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum). I think you would have saved yourself a lot of time and money had you spent some time reading up on Sosua before you decided to visit.[/QUOTE]Oh, I kind of new what I was getting into. I was on the island for other reasons and just swung by Sosua. And it's not like I had a bad time, even if it wasn't exactly my style. Beats staying home. The prices are good, the beach is nice, it seems like a fairly safe place, and I met a lot of cool people who were also visiting.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1295852]For the same reason you found "street prostitution" to be irritating happens to be the main draw of the place for 99.9% of the guys who go to Sosua.[/QUOTE]Yup, and I understand that. Everyone is different. Obviously, a lot of people like the place, and that just fine. I'm not going to buy a house there though.

[QUOTE=Balls Rawls;1295775]I enjoy screwing prostitutes, and I enjoy hanging out with regular people. Sosua is no place for such a guy. I didn't meet a single "regular person" local in the DR. Everybody had an angle. I'm not saying that nobody should go, but I prefer Guatemala City or San Salvador, where I can go to an establishment of ill repute, drink a beer, have porn star sex for an hour, drink 2 more beers, have more sex, and then leave and spend the remainder of the evening in the company of normals.[/QUOTE]Probably best to take the wife and the in-laws along for the company.

You go to Sosua top fuck and party. There is lot of DR to all the other things. Sosua has pussy enjoyand then go some where to socialize. [

QUOTE=Frannie; 1295863]Probably best to take the wife and the in-laws along for the company.[/QUOTE]

Terrible thing pretty young women asking you to fuck them for 40 bucks. It is a night mare please do not wake me up.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1295852]Not trying to bust your Balls, but here we have a little saying: RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum). I think you would have saved yourself a lot of time and money had you spent some time reading up on Sosua before you decided to visit.

For the same reason you found "street prostitution" to be irritating happens to be the main draw of the place for 99. 9% of the guys who go to Sosua.[/QUOTE]

Almost got into a physical altercation w / a fucking, dumb-ass American POS this afternoon at Bar Central.

Have been astutely aware of his presence for several days. He is not easy to ignore (white guy. 50-55 yrs.) as every second word out of his filthy mouth is "fuck" and "shit." And he has an obvious disregard for women in general, and certainly for the women that have to work the streets.

Anyways, this POS was at Bar Central when Euro2012 was broadcast live. Plenty of customers present wanting to watch the live video. He takes a call and basically hi-jacks the place as his personal office space for 20 min. Other patrons complain to him in German as to whether he maybe could tone it down so that they could also listen to the audio commentary. His response: "This is a LD call."

At that point of time, I basically translated the customers' concerns very clearly into AE. He stormed out and threatened me from 50 yards away. What a piece of human garbage!

This is for anyone who thinks that only the chicas have 'tudes!

[QUOTE=Revere; 1278543]This is an interesting topic what do you do if a chick steals from you. How should you feel about it? I was in Rio a few years back. I met this hot little chick in Help and ended spending a day with her. On the first night after I bang her and take a shower I said let's go get something to eat but when I reach in my pants I notice that about 1, 500 in pesos are missing. You know how you look around the room thinking you are going crazy and maybe put it somewhere by mistake. Anyway, the chick is just sitting there looking at me going crazy. So, I let it go and we go out and get drinks, but my radar is up because I do not want to accuse her. Come back to the apartment have another great session and my radar is down and everything seems cool. I go to take a shower I get in but I get out quickly to get my proactive face wash out my bag. As I walk out the shower, this girl I am with is butt naked on her knees going through my pants pocket with my wallet in her hand. I wanted to kill her ass, but I knew I was in a foreign country and would be in jail if I touched her.

My point is I grew up poor, but I knew right from wrong where I am from you steal from someone it could be fatal. It just never feels good for me when someone steals from me. I hate that I have to watch someone because they might take from me. I would rather just kick them to the curb. That is why I am never cheap with a girl because I do not want any excuse for her to feel that she should steal from me to make up for me being cheap.[/QUOTE]When I go on vacation anywhere in the world and bring a puta back to my room: I make sure my wallet is locked in a safe. If there is no safe, then I bring my wallet with me whenever I go to the bathroom. Sad that you fell for this twice.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1295832]I know that many of you will encourage me not to waste extra $ on Passions girls. Until I get there and see / experience for myself, I was wondering if any of you who do frequent the place have any suggestions of certain girls to try? Sometimes, I like shooting fish in a barrel, and the pictures I have seen of Peter's girls look very attractive.

I understand that YMMV, and that people have different likes (Baskin / Robbins has 31 flavors). Who do you like? Thanks![/QUOTE]There is nothing wrong with the Passion girls, many are quite beautiful. I never hooked up with any of them, but then again I'm not that pickey, so I play the beach and the street.

By all means, explore all that Sosua has to offer. I've always had a great time and explored all the different venues; you might want to do the same.

[QUOTE=Balls Rawls; 1295775]I've been to 17 of 20 Latin American countries, and I've never dealt with people so pushy as the DR. If I go back, I'll be going to Santo Domingo.

Just my 2 cents.

-Balls[/QUOTE]Hmm. The very first time I went to Sosua, I spent a week; never noticed anyone bothering me AT ALL. I spoke to others if I needed to but no one bothered me. Same the second time. I stayed 3 days. I am a dark skinned guy which may have kept the soliciting crowd at bay while they try to pounce on the white skinned guys. Entirely possible but in my short experience, it never was as dramatic as I read here. A firm "no, thank you" was more than enough.

[QUOTE=Balls Rawls;1295775]Well, I headed down a few weeks ago to see what all the fuss was about. I didn't have a bad time per se, but I'm just not sure I'll be back. The reason is, there are too many hookers. A lot of towns around the world don't allow street prostitution, and now I know why. It has nothing to do with morality, it's because street prostitution is fucking irritating. I want a place where a man can drink a beer, watch sports center, and chat with his friends in peace, without an endless parade of putas interrupting.[/QUOTE]Oh Balls, you are breaking all of our Balls that love the place.

Too many hookers? And this is a bad thing?

Women hissing at you? You are a grown man, blow it the fuck off. Have you ever been to Soi 6 in Pattaya or Whisper alley in Okinawa? Sosua is quite tame compared to many places.

Street prostitution is fucking irritating? To who, experienced mongers or to newbes that fail to RTFF?

You want to drink a beer, watch sports center, and chat with his friends in peace? Stay the fuck at home! That shit is boring!

"There is a greater than zero percent chance I will smack the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of you." Good luck on that one. I would love to introduce you to Patricia, who would slice you up just for fun!

San Salvador? I just came from there, I liked the place, but it is too spread out and more on a business model; no big deal.

Bottom line: One less monger in Sosua is great for the rest of us. It might be better for you to stay home, watch Sports Center, and jack off to internet porn. But personally, I find your trip report completely useless; thanks for trying nevertheless.

Just my 3 cents,

No Balls

[QUOTE=Balls Rawls; 1295775]Well, I headed down a few weeks ago to see what all the fuss was about. I didn't have a bad time per se, but I'm just not sure I'll be back. The reason is, there are too many hookers. A lot of towns around the world don't allow street prostitution, and now I know why. It has nothing to do with morality, it's because street prostitution is fucking irritating. I want a place where a man can drink a beer, watch sports center, and chat with his friends in peace, without an endless parade of putas interrupting. Sosua is not that kind of place. Don't get me wrong, I had a lot of fun in Passions and CMP, and if you transported those two establishments someplace else, I would visit. I just don't like the street shit. Examples:

-I've never been anywhere in the world where I didn't know who had taxis, who had pussy, who had T-shirts, and who had anything else within a few hours. No need to advertise.

-If you are advertising a good or service, and you get my attention by hissing at me, there is a zero percent chance I will buy your good or service. There is a greater than zero percent chance I will smack the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of you, depending on my mood, however.

-If I'm seated, enjoying a beer, meal, conversation, or television program, I'm where I want to be. Don't bother me.

-If I were in the states, and you grabbed me from behind, I would be reaching into the waistband of my pants, and not to pull out my wallet or my cock. I don't want this on vacation.

-Don't advertise by purposely getting in my way whilst I'm walking. It's annoying and stinks of desperation.

I think it boils down to this: some guys genuinely enjoy hanging out with prostitutes. I'm not one of those guys. I enjoy screwing prostitutes, and I enjoy hanging out with regular people. Sosua is no place for such a guy. I didn't meet a single "regular person" local in the DR. Everybody had an angle. I'm not saying that nobody should go, but I prefer Guatemala City or San Salvador, where I can go to an establishment of ill repute, drink a beer, have porn star sex for an hour, drink 2 more beers, have more sex, and then leave and spend the remainder of the evening in the company of normals. The problem with Sosua is that you can never just leave.

I've been to 17 of 20 Latin American countries, and I've never dealt with people so pushy as the DR. If I go back, I'll be going to Santo Domingo.

Just my 2 cents.

-Balls[/QUOTE]Seriously, is this some type of joke? Are you for real? Did you really go to Sousa or are you someone with a different agenda then this board? Quote " I want a place where a man can drink a beer, watch sports center, and chat with his friends in peace, without an endless parade of putas interrupting." Save yourself alot of time and try a sports bar. You just described any sports bar in America.

[QUOTE=Doker44;1295972]Seriously, is this some type of joke? Are you for real? Did you really go to Sousa or are you someone with a different agenda then this board? Quote " I want a place where a man can drink a beer, watch sports center, and chat with his friends in peace, without an endless parade of putas interrupting." Save yourself alot of time and try a sports bar. You just described any sports bar in America.[/QUOTE]Wow, I don't understand all the animosity. I thought this board was just guys shooting the breeze about different places they have been and offering up opinions. I just found Sosua to be a little intense is all. I didn't even say I had a bad time. As I said in a previous post, I was on the island already, and dropped by Sosua. I just didn't find it all that relaxing, which is what I want on a beach vacation.

And really, not wanting to get a sales pitch all the time must mean I have a different agenda than the board? Really? I like women. I also like cars. Does that mean that I should be pleased as punch if 40 car dealers swarm me while I'm out watching the game with some friends?

I really don't get the hate. If I told you I liked football, and you said you watched a football game once, but you prefer baseball, I wouldn't be freaking mad at you about it.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1295948]Oh Balls, you are breaking all of our Balls that love the place.

Too many hookers? And this is a bad thing?

Women hissing at you? You are a grown man, blow it the fuck off. Have you ever been to Soi 6 in Pattaya or Whisper alley in Okinawa? Sosua is quite tame compared to many places.

Street prostitution is fucking irritating? To who, experienced mongers or to newbes that fail to RTFF?

You want to drink a beer, watch sports center, and chat with his friends in peace? Stay the fuck at home! That shit is boring!

"There is a greater than zero percent chance I will smack the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of you." Good luck on that one. I would love to introduce you to Patricia, who would slice you up just for fun!

San Salvador? I just came from there, I liked the place, but it is too spread out and more on a business model; no big deal.

Bottom line: One less monger in Sosua is great for the rest of us. It might be better for you to stay home, watch Sports Center, and jack off to internet porn. But personally, I find your trip report completely useless; thanks for trying nevertheless.

Just my 3 cents,

No Balls[/QUOTE]Again, not getting the hate, but anyway, yes I am a grown man and I can tolerate people hissing at me. I can also tolerate very cold weather, but that doesn't mean I want to deal with it on vacation.

Look, I didn't tell anyone not to go to Sosua, and didn't suggest we burn it to the ground. I just said I didn't like it as much as some other places I've been. I didn't mean to start a big fight, I just thought I'd offer a counter-opinion on the forum, which maybe isn't cool. Different people like different things, I think we have to agree on that.

Would someone in the know post the prices charged by Passions and CMP for both one hour short-tiime onsite vs TNL take out. It would also be nice to know what the chicas % is of this fee to better figure what an appropriate tip is if one is given. On the subject of tips at these two places- do any of the the Passions / CMP regular customers on this forum know if a standard tip is expected?

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Balls Rawls; 1295861]Oh, I kind of new what I was getting into. I was on the island for other reasons and just swung by Sosua. And it's not like I had a bad time, even if it wasn't exactly my style. Beats staying home. The prices are good, the beach is nice, it seems like a fairly safe place, and I met a lot of cool people who were also visiting.

Yup, and I understand that. Everyone is different. Obviously, a lot of people like the place, and that just fine. I'm not going to buy a house there though.[/QUOTE]Good report, but honestly if the girls were better looking would you be back?

Oldkool figure out them fucking brackets on your quotes!

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1295944]Hmm. The very first time I went to Sosua, I spent a week; never noticed anyone bothering me AT ALL. I spoke to others if I needed to but no one bothered me. Same the second time. I stayed 3 days. I am a dark skinned guy which may have kept the soliciting crowd at bay while they try to pounce on the white skinned guys. Entirely possible but in my short experience, it never was as dramatic as I read here. A firm "no, thank you" was more than enough.[/QUOTE]People really do have different tolerances. Every so often you read reports from DR vacationers on non-mongering boards who report that their whole vacation was RUINED because of people soliciting them on the streets to buy things.

Now I have been to the DR numerous times and to me occasionally these things are a minor irritation, but never to the point that I even give it a second thought after the fact.

However, the author does suggest that in the US he carries a gun or knife concealed in his pants in case someone touches him, so possibly he is a bit paranoid at the best of times.

[QUOTE=Navdude;1295834]Tried the search option to find online dating sites to find non pro chicas near Puerto Plata and Sosua. I failed can anyone help.[/QUOTE]If I were you I would stay clear of these sites if you are looking for a non-pro. I just spent the last 2 weeks conducting what I call a social experiment on DominicanCupid. I found it quite amusing and enlightening. My conclusion is. These girls are VERY GOOD con artists. Or at least the majority of them are.

I created a profile. Posted some pics. I am not a bad looking guy, but definitely no Brad Pitt. In the first few days I ended up with a shitload of women being interested in me. But I want to talk about a particular one.

A few days ago a girl with no profile photo emailed me on Cupid. Told me she was interested in me and left a email address saying if I wanted to see her to contact her. I did, and she was smoking hot. Late 20's, latina, tight little body on he. Got a hard on just looking at her.

We started talking a bit. I speak broken spanish. But used Google translate. And I understand quite a bit so communication was not a problem. After about 2 days she told me she loved me (bullshit off course). I played along. Told her I want to meet her when I come in August. The next day she calls me on msn. She is in her bathtub and posed for me (which non-pro, decent dominican girl from a good family will do that?). Then she said she is sad to say goodbye. I asked why she wants to say good bye. LOL. She said her internet is getting disconnected. I wanted to see how this plays out. I told her I can send her a bit of money for internet (I was under no impression she was for real. Like I said this was a social experiment). She said no she can't accept it. So I said ok.

Next day I get a text on my phone (gave her my cell phone # to make the impression I was suckered in). It says "papi. My mom says I need to pay the internet. Send the money".

At this point I was laughing. But I played along. This girl was GOOD. I sent her a little money the next day. Understand me. I was under no impresion she was being real, I decided to invest a little money in my experiment to see it through.

Next day, I see she has 16 new male friends on her MSN profie. I confront her about this. She gets mad and said they were friends from before. I acted hurt and deleted her. She kept barraging my msn for 4 solid hours, telling me how much she loves me. How I hurt her, and so on. I refriended her and started talking with her again. At this point she almost had me fooled. But I still looked at it with a grain of salt.

Next day she texts me saying her mother is very angry at her for accepting money from me. She told me her mom slapped her. Then in the evening, she started to ask me questions about my previous sexual encounters. I asked her why. She said her father wanted to know. I told het it is not important and asked her if she has a problem with the fact that I was sexually active in the past. She said yes. At this point I played into it and acted like I was offended. This resulted in a fight. I ended up deleting her again and told her I will go to sosua and fuck all the working girls there. Next day I sent her a message saying it is over between us. And apologized for my "bad words". Then I was back on cupid talking to all sorts of women. At this point I thaught it was over. Well. I was wrong.

2 days later I started talking to another woman on Cupid. And she started to ask me questions about other women I met there. She was persistent, and I had a feeling. So I told her I met someone special a few days ago but it didn't work. Next thing you know she tells me she loves me and it turns out it was the same chica I was talking to before. LOL.

She said stuff like. I want to be the mother of your children, and other similar stuff. She is VERY good at faking tears and affection. I played along and refriended her on msn for the second time.

Next 2 days we were just talking, but she would disconnect in the middle of convversation and not come back for a few hours or at all. I played hurt and asked her why she doesn't want to talk with me and so on. She said it was her internet and that she is tired from studying.

About 2 days later. She starts talking about some exam she needs to write. She claimed to be a doctor and wanted to move and work in the US. She said the exam is $1000, but her mom will pay for it. Then yesterday I get a text on my phone and an email:

"mi madre me dio 700 dolares. Creo que en verdad me los devolvio por que cuando yo trabaje. Le ayudaba mucho. El examen es en 15 dias pero tengo que pagarlo en lunes para no quedarme afuera se septiempre. Estoy un poco desconsertada."

On the phone she told me her mom gave her 700. 00$. I saw where this was going so I played stupid. I replied."that was nice of your mom". Knowing well what was coming next.

She got on msn and was complaining about this situation, and before she could ask me I told her I can't help her. To which she replied that she was not asking me for it. I suggested to her that she can come here and stay with me, work for a while and write the exam later (by now I had a hard time keeping a straight face). She replied "Thank, how nice". And Disconnected. As soon as she disconnected she was back on Cupid. I wrote to her on cupid something to the extent that she was already looking for a ne sucker. To which she replied that it was over between us because I always doubt her. LOL.

Sorry for my rambling, but I thought this was an appropriate reply to NavDude's question. This girl appeared very innocent, she faked tears and joy really well and if I wasn't as jaded as I was I would have believed her. 100% professional acting. Very good.

I am willing to bet it is not over yet either.

As far as I am concerned it was a good investment on my part sending her a little money. I got a good insight into the character and motivation of these girls.

The lesson to be learned here is that use Cupid only to line up chicas for a GFE. Never fall in love or try to seek a serious relationship. 99% are pro's.

Anton out.

I am sure this is not over yet

[QUOTE=Navdude;1295834]Tried the search option to find online dating sites to find non pro chicas near Puerto Plata and Sosua. I failed can anyone help.[/QUOTE]. And just to add one thing. Besides the amusement and insight, this episode has been a good way to practice my spanish!

[quote=frannie;1296029]people really do have different tolerances. every so often you read reports from dr vacationers on non-mongering boards who report that their whole vacation was ruined because of people soliciting them on the streets to buy things.[/quote]you are right and i also think that my personal background makes a difference. when i lived in eu, the italian beaches were full of these vendors. mostly from africa, both black and arab africa but also some from bangladesh. all "sans papier". they would often be chased by the cops and their goods will be confirep001ed. and then coming from india, where pan-handling is a common sight and even a necessity (oliver twist in the 21st century) , i have perhaps a thicker skin so it is relatively easy for me to say "no". perhaps because of my provenience, it is also just a tad easier to empathize!

nevertheless, you and i walked the main drag several times in sosua. i never found it even minimally invasive but then i did not live my life on the main drag either. i remember fondly sitting at the entry of the hotel and shooting the breeze (andre', jean luc, the young dutch lad, daniele and others) in 4-5 languages. ah, the bonhomie with chilled beer and watching people walk by.

as tomjackin reminded me, bangkok can be a nuisance. all women want a "drink" the moment you step inside a patpong bar. yet it was also fun. i remember being accosted by 5-6 women, two on the sides, my hands on them, one on top of me feeding me her nipple and couple on the floor, trying to open my zipper. ah, the good times of youth! i do not want to offend anyone, but many young people these days kill themselves to go to such "heaven"!

i have known people from the military, who like to sit/stand with their back to the wall only...they do not like too many people around them and for understandable reasons. the contributor in question here is speaking of going to santo next time. i read boca chica is downright scary. ah, well.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1295832]I know that many of you will encourage me not to waste extra $ on Passions girls. Until I get there and see / experience for myself, I was wondering if any of you who do frequent the place have any suggestions of certain girls to try? Sometimes, I like shooting fish in a barrel, and the pictures I have seen of Peter's girls look very attractive.

I understand that YMMV, and that people have different likes (Baskin / Robbins has 31 flavors). Who do you like? Thanks![/QUOTE]Lulu is a light skined girl working at Passions. She is a squirter and is a great performer. She is cool with cim, cof.

Francesa dark skinned girl good for threesomes, good oral skills.

Penelope has a killer body and also good oral skills.

At Passions there are no massages available which means your cheapest option will be the 1 hour inhouse service for 2500 pesos 70-75 dollars.

[QUOTE=Troyboy; 1296014]Would someone in the know post the prices charged by Passions and CMP for both one hour short-tiime onsite vs TNL take out. It would also be nice to know what the chicas % is of this fee to better figure what an appropriate tip is if one is given. On the subject of tips at these two places- do any of the the Passions / CMP regular customers on this forum know if a standard tip is expected?

Thank you![/QUOTE]At Passions 1 hour inhouse service is going to cost you 2500 pesos 70-75 dollars. 1500pesos are for the girl. 1000 for the house. Concering take out fees at Passions check their webpage, if I recall right at 10pm it is 3500 pesos.

I have never been to CMP

I have two cupid chica who are both awesome. One works at a hospital for slave wages and has the sweetest pussy I every had loves when I dty. The other use to be a por in is awesome in the sack. In her thirties so I think retired. Sure the girls have game. However you never know. You want sex they want money happy meeting. Cupid is a awesome way to meet women. I love it.

[QUOTE=Chert1; 1296037]If I were you I would stay clear of these sites if you are looking for a non-pro. I just spent the last 2 weeks conducting what I call a social experiment on DominicanCupid. I found it quite amusing and enlightening. My conclusion is. These girls are VERY GOOD con artists. Or at least the majority of them are.

I created a profile. Posted some pics. I am not a bad looking guy, but definitely no Brad Pitt. In the first few days I ended up with a shitload of women being interested in me. But I want to talk about a particular one.

A few days ago a girl with no profile photo emailed me on Cupid. Told me she was interested in me and left a email address saying if I wanted to see her to contact her. I did, and she was smoking hot. Late 20's, latina, tight little body on he. Got a hard on just looking at her.

We started talking a bit. I speak broken spanish. But used Google translate. And I understand quite a bit so communication was not a problem. After about 2 days she told me she loved me (bullshit off course). I played along. Told her I want to meet her when I come in August. The next day she calls me on msn. She is in her bathtub and posed for me (which non-pro, decent dominican girl from a good family will do that?). Then she said she is sad to say goodbye. I asked why she wants to say good bye. LOL. She said her internet is getting disconnected. I wanted to see how this plays out. I told her I can send her a bit of money for internet (I was under no impression she was for real. Like I said this was a social experiment). She said no she can't accept it. So I said ok.

Next day I get a text on my phone (gave her my cell phone # to make the impression I was suckered in). It says "papi. My mom says I need to pay the internet. Send the money".

At this point I was laughing. But I played along. This girl was GOOD. I sent her a little money the next day. Understand me. I was under no impresion she was being real, I decided to invest a little money in my experiment to see it through.

Next day, I see she has 16 new male friends on her MSN profie. I confront her about this. She gets mad and said they were friends from before. I acted hurt and deleted her. She kept barraging my msn for 4 solid hours, telling me how much she loves me. How I hurt her, and so on. I refriended her and started talking with her again. At this point she almost had me fooled. But I still looked at it with a grain of salt.

Next day she texts me saying her mother is very angry at her for accepting money from me. She told me her mom slapped her. Then in the evening, she started to ask me questions about my previous sexual encounters. I asked her why. She said her father wanted to know. I told het it is not important and asked her if she has a problem with the fact that I was sexually active in the past. She said yes. At this point I played into it and acted like I was offended. This resulted in a fight. I ended up deleting her again and told her I will go to sosua and fuck all the working girls there. Next day I sent her a message saying it is over between us. And apologized for my "bad words". Then I was back on cupid talking to all sorts of women. At this point I thaught it was over. Well. I was wrong.

2 days later I started talking to another woman on Cupid. And she started to ask me questions about other women I met there. She was persistent, and I had a feeling. So I told her I met someone special a few days ago but it didn't work. Next thing you know she tells me she loves me and it turns out it was the same chica I was talking to before. LOL.

She said stuff like. I want to be the mother of your children, and other similar stuff. She is VERY good at faking tears and affection. I played along and refriended her on msn for the second time.

Next 2 days we were just talking, but she would disconnect in the middle of convversation and not come back for a few hours or at all. I played hurt and asked her why she doesn't want to talk with me and so on. She said it was her internet and that she is tired from studying.

About 2 days later. She starts talking about some exam she needs to write. She claimed to be a doctor and wanted to move and work in the US. She said the exam is $1000, but her mom will pay for it. Then yesterday I get a text on my phone and an email:

"mi madre me dio 700 dolares. Creo que en verdad me los devolvio por que cuando yo trabaje. Le ayudaba mucho. El examen es en 15 dias pero tengo que pagarlo en lunes para no quedarme afuera se septiempre. Estoy un poco desconsertada."

On the phone she told me her mom gave her 700. 00$. I saw where this was going so I played stupid. I replied."that was nice of your mom". Knowing well what was coming next.

She got on msn and was complaining about this situation, and before she could ask me I told her I can't help her. To which she replied that she was not asking me for it. I suggested to her that she can come here and stay with me, work for a while and write the exam later (by now I had a hard time keeping a straight face). She replied "Thank, how nice". And Disconnected. As soon as she disconnected she was back on Cupid. I wrote to her on cupid something to the extent that she was already looking for a ne sucker. To which she replied that it was over between us because I always doubt her. LOL.

Sorry for my rambling, but I thought this was an appropriate reply to NavDude's question. This girl appeared very innocent, she faked tears and joy really well and if I wasn't as jaded as I was I would have believed her. 100% professional acting. Very good.

I am willing to bet it is not over yet either.

As far as I am concerned it was a good investment on my part sending her a little money. I got a good insight into the character and motivation of these girls.

The lesson to be learned here is that use Cupid only to line up chicas for a GFE. Never fall in love or try to seek a serious relationship. 99% are pro's.

Anton out.

I am sure this is not over yet[/QUOTE]

Ok I rarely post here becuase I have never been Sosua, but some have recently posted on the Sousa scene and non pro chicas.

Sosua isn't for everyone and it seems that either you love it or you don't. I will not knock another monger's favorite venue but every monger should feel free to post his personal experience be it good or bad.

Personally I have had terrible luck with dating sites so I don't use them, I mainly meet chicas thru introductions or traveling around. Chicas, both pros and non pros are always hit or miss. You will sometimes find some scam artists, tigueres or just crazy ass chicas. You know what? Ditch her and move on cause a sweet gem can or will be around the corner ready to fulfill your wildest carnal desires

[QUOTE=Balls Rawls; 1295994]Wow, I don't understand all the animosity. I thought this board was just guys shooting the breeze about different places they have been and offering up opinions. I just found Sosua to be a little intense is all. I didn't even say I had a bad time. As I said in a previous post, I was on the island already, and dropped by Sosua. I just didn't find it all that relaxing, which is what I want on a beach vacation.

And really, not wanting to get a sales pitch all the time must mean I have a different agenda than the board? Really? I like women. I also like cars. Does that mean that I should be pleased as punch if 40 car dealers swarm me while I'm out watching the game with some friends?

I really don't get the hate. If I told you I liked football, and you said you watched a football game once, but you prefer baseball, I wouldn't be freaking mad at you about it.[/QUOTE]Yo, maybe you didn't mean no harm, but re read your post, you talked about smackin people up, pulling out your gat, I guess thats what you meant by, diggin in your pants. Where I'm from, you doing that, they might be carrying YOU out. It seemed like you were coming at us hard, instead of voicing your opinion. Which you are very welcome to voice. Love Peace. And Hair Grease!

[QUOTE=Troyboy; 1296014]Would someone in the know post the prices charged by Passions and CMP for both one hour short-tiime onsite vs TNL take out. It would also be nice to know what the chicas % is of this fee to better figure what an appropriate tip is if one is given. On the subject of tips at these two places- do any of the the Passions / CMP regular customers on this forum know if a standard tip is expected?

Thank you![/QUOTE]Google Passions Sosua for their website where their menu of prices is given. As of my last visit it was 2500 Pesos for one hour full-service on site. Take out price depends on what time they leave with you.

I've been there dozens of times and have never tipped even for CIM, anal, etc. It's not expected, though if you insist, I doubt the girls will complain.

[QUOTE=Balls Rawls; 1295994]1. I just found Sosua to be a little intense is all. I didn't even say I had a bad time. As I said in a previous post, I was on the island already, and dropped by Sosua. I just didn't find it all that relaxing, which is what I want on a beach vacation.

2. And really, not wanting to get a sales pitch all the time must mean I have a different agenda than the board? Really? I like women. I also like cars. Does that mean that I should be pleased as punch if 40 car dealers swarm me while I'm out watching the game with some friends?

3. I really don't get the hate.[/QUOTE]1. You might like Las Terrenas, if you haven't been there already. Beautiful beaches, rather quiet, good place for a relaxing beach vacation.

2. If you go to watch the game with some friends in the waiting room at a car dealership, don't be surprised if someone tries to interrupt you to interest you in a car.

You don't really understand how Sosua works. The vast majority of single male travelers who come to Sosua come primarily for sex vacations, however many also have a secondary passion for alcohol. The most successful businesses in Sosua are those that have girls hanging around and play loud music with a deafening bass beat, as this seems to be what attracts the largest number of drinkers to the bars. So it is all about alcohol sales. You are just an innocent bystander.

However, there are certainly places in Sosua where you can get away and and watch your favorite sport on TV. I don't think all those Germans in Sosua who were watching Germany beat Greece 4-2 in the European soccer championships yesterday were too distracted by encroaching females.

3. You are the guy who hinted that you carry a weapon concealed in your pants (other than your penis). You might want to think seriously about this whole hate thing.

chert1 hanks so much for publishing your sociological study on the mating habits of a dominican chica using cupid. consider it to have been peer-reviewed by me, and confirming results have been observed. now if only we could get a government research grant to do more follow-up study.

[quote=chert1;1296037]if i were you i would stay clear of these sites if you are looking for a non-pro. i just spent the last 2 weeks conducting what i call a social experiment on dominicancupid.[/quote]

[quote=member #2041;1296446]chert1 hanks so much for publishing your sociological study on the mating habits of a dominican chica using cupid. consider it to have been peer-reviewed by me, and confirming results have been observed. now if only we could get a government research grant to do more follow-up study.[/quote]i am no rocket scientist (although i play one on tv) , but in order to conduct a successful experiment you need to have more than one test subject or sets of data. chert conducted this "experiment" on one chica from cupid and concluded that "all chicas" are the same based soley on his dealings with her.

[quote=chert1;1296037]if i were you i would stay clear of these sites if you are looking for a non-pro. i just spent the last 2 weeks conducting what i call a social experiment on dominicancupid. i found it quite amusing and enlightening. my conclusion is. these girls are very good con artists. or at least the majority of them are...a few days ago a girl with no profile photo emailed me on cupid. told me she was interested in me and left a email address saying if i wanted to see her to contact her. i did, and she was smoking hot. late 20's, latina, tight little body on he. got a hard on just looking at her.

we started talking a bit. i speak broken spanish. but used google translate. and i understand quite a bit so communication was not a problem. after about 2 days she told me she loved me (bullshit off course). i played along. told her i want to meet her when i come in august. the next day she calls me on msn. she is in her bathtub and posed for me (which non-pro, decent dominican girl from a good family will do that?). then she said she is sad to say goodbye. i asked why she wants to say good bye. lol. she said her internet is getting disconnected. i wanted to see how this plays out. i told her i can send her a bit of money for internet (i was under no impression she was for real. like i said this was a social experiment). she said no she can't accept it. so i said ok.[/quote]

i would not base my possible success on cupid soley on his findings.

[QUOTE=Troyboy; 1296014]Would someone in the know post the prices charged by Passions and CMP for both one hour short-tiime onsite vs TNL take out. It would also be nice to know what the chicas % is of this fee to better figure what an appropriate tip is if one is given. On the subject of tips at these two places- do any of the the Passions / CMP regular customers on this forum know if a standard tip is expected?

Thank you![/QUOTE]Correct me if I'm wrong. (fixing to make my first trip so I am not "in the know") but passions wants you NOT to tip right?

Guy goes to the beach and complains that there is sand there. Sosua is the mecca for DR pussy and sport fucking.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1296433]1. You might like Las Terrenas, if you haven't been there already. Beautiful beaches, rather quiet, good place for a relaxing beach vacation.

2. If you go to watch the game with some friends in the waiting room at a car dealership, don't be surprised if someone tries to interrupt you to interest you in a car.

You don't really understand how Sosua works. The vast majority of single male travelers who come to Sosua come primarily for sex vacations, however many also have a secondary passion for alcohol. The most successful businesses in Sosua are those that have girls hanging around and play loud music with a deafening bass beat, as this seems to be what attracts the largest number of drinkers to the bars. So it is all about alcohol sales. You are just an innocent bystander.

However, there are certainly places in Sosua where you can get away and and watch your favorite sport on TV. I don't think all those Germans in Sosua who were watching Germany beat Greece 4-2 in the European soccer championships yesterday were too distracted by encroaching females.

3. You are the guy who hinted that you carry a weapon concealed in your pants (other than your penis). You might want to think seriously about this whole hate thing.[/QUOTE]

Landing tomorrow. One last question (at least for now). Are the banks and Western Union open on Sundays for money exchange, or should I just use a street guy to get me started?

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1296562]Landing tomorrow. One last question (at least for now). Are the banks and Western Union open on Sundays for money exchange, or should I just use a street guy to get me started?[/QUOTE]No, but there are several small exchange bureaus in Sosua that will be open, or the street guys, or the ATMs. Do not use the rip off change place inside the airport. If a taxi is meeting you, don't worry, just ask him to take you to change money before the hotel. Everything is very close by in Sosua, so it is no big deal. Usually the airport taxis will take dollars too.

I was in Sosua last night and there seemed to be lots of women on the prowl, so watch out. Just lock yourself in your hotel room, insert ear plugs, and you will be fine.

Actually Playero, grocery store, either one, pays one of the highest rates for USD, just buy an ice-cream with a hundred USD and they are more than happy to give your change in RD Pesos.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1296562]Landing tomorrow. One last question (at least for now). Are the banks and Western Union open on Sundays for money exchange, or should I just use a street guy to get me started?[/QUOTE]The banks are closed on Sunday. The ATM's are sometimes out of money on weekends but there are enough that you usually can find one that works. I find the Banco Progreso is the most reliable and their ATM gives up to 30, 000 pesos on a single withdrawal. I believe WU office is also closed on Sunday. Use the street guys but their rates will be slightly poorer on weekends. The guy that stands outside Terra Lindo is said to be reliable.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1296453]I am no rocket scientist (although I play one on TV) , but in order to conduct a successful experiment you need to have more than one test subject or sets of data. Chert conducted this "experiment" on one chica from Cupid and concluded that "all chicas" are the same based soley on his dealings with her.

I would not base my possible success on Cupid soley on his findings.[/QUOTE]First of all, I was merely stating an opinion.

Second, this particular chica was just one example I wanted to use. Since she was very good at what she did. Maybe I over-exaggerated the 99% part. But out of the 10 or so chicas I talked with, only one didn't start hinting something or other about money. Either being too broke to go to the internet centre or something to that extent. Maybe I got unlucky in this respect. I am sure there are a few genuine chicas on the website, but from what I have seen so far, they are few and far in-between.

No one needs to base their conduct on my findings. I have merely written about something that I found amusing.

This world would be a strange place if everyone would agree with me all the time.

But thanks for the feedback. I have not lost faith in Cupid just yet

[QUOTE=OldKool;1296514]Guy goes to the beach and complains that there is sand there. Sosua is the mecca for DR pussy and sport fucking.[/QUOTE]It is not the mecca for me and not a mecca for some other people I know. I also suggest you read Scotch's last Sosua trip report and Savepros321 last Sosua trip report. I doubt either of these guys is in a great rush to return to Sosua. Parts of their reports;

[QUOTE=Scotch;1292086]IMHO Sosua is now just like BC. Everybody was begging from some expats, police, little children, girls and domican guys. The beach was dead. yet guys were paying 4 and 5k. I do not want to hear that girls are hungry in Sosua I never saw so many fat out shape woman in my life.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=SavePros321; 1284415]I have been to Sosua many times before the crack down and just recently week before last. I'm not going to get into the "old Sosua, new Sosua" jazz, but the place has definitely run its course. I would say this was probably the most disappointing trip I've ever had to Sosua. Not going back anytime soon. My Spanish game has advanced and I'm branching out.

But definitely would like to hear other opinions. Grandnash84 was there a week before I was and was supposed to bless the board with a trip report, but don't know what happened with that.[/QUOTE]

Anyone know a good barbershop in Sosua or Puerto Plata?

Arrived Friday for the first time in almost 2 years. My flight to SDQ had arrived 2 hours late so ended up driving half of the trip in the darkness of the night. Boricua Online was my sidekick ensuring that for every obstacle conquered on the road I earned a shot of Patron. By the time I got to Sosua my head was spinning, tired but still horny. Picked up a thick Haitian lady who gave me one of the best sessions I've had, was down with anything, and BBBJ like a porn star. Fun, but nothing to be proud of in looks.

Next day drove around PP go sightseeing, then returned to Sosua to sit at the beach before the night arrived. Met a pretty bartender with the same old story, arrived in Sosua not too long ago, working to support her kid. Took her out at night then came back to my room for a passionate and enjoyable session. She never talked about money, but any woman in this town expects something in return. Stuffed a 2 thousand peso note in her purse and left it at that. Will repeat.

Woke up to no water in the hotel. Boricua Online still offline after his Classicos escapade. Sosua cleaned up a little since my last visit. There were less desperate children asking for coins, less english speaking hustlers bothering me, and great ratio of women to men at night. Still trying to clear the yells of CHANGE, MASSAGE, and CONCHO from my memory, but that is nothing to worry about.

On a funny note, the window washing children working at the red light in Puerto Plata rejected my 5 peso reward, instead telling me they only take dollars. When I began to drive away they changed their mind. Someone spoiled the window washing market, STOP OVERPAYING guys.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1296594]The banks are closed on Sunday. The ATM's are sometimes out of money on weekends but there are enough that you usually can find one that works. I find the Banco Progreso is the most reliable and their ATM gives up to 30, 000 pesos on a single withdrawal. I believe WU office is also closed on Sunday. Use the street guys but their rates will be slightly poorer on weekends. The guy that stands outside Terra Lindo is said to be reliable.[/QUOTE]Always recount your money, In front of the street guys. My two friends had a guy in. Front of New Gardens. What he would do is show you how much your getting back on the calculator, but then he will count back your money real fast, but will try and short you 50 to a 100 pesoz, It took us a while to catch on. It adds up if he keeps shorting everyone.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1296610]It is not the mecca for me and not a mecca for some other people I know. I also suggest you read Scotch's last Sosua trip report and Savepros321 last Sosua trip report. I doubt either of these guys is in a great rush to return to Sosua.[/QUOTE]Sadly you are correct. I am looking at my flight itinerary right now. It does not have me landing at POP, LOL.

[QUOTE=Panman;1296793]Arrived Friday for the first time in almost 2 years. My flight to SDQ had arrived 2 hours late so ended up driving half of the trip in the darkness of the night. Boricua Online was my sidekick ensuring that for every obstacle conquered on the road I earned a shot of Patron.[/QUOTE]Thanks to you arriving late I had a memorable session with a GBP chica, will repeat tomorrow.

As you know today I am ONLINE ready to bang the beach bar's daughter while you do the proper to her employee. We watched the Italy.England Euro cup game while pping a few Prezs and eating one of the best mofongos ever at Mofongo King Sosua beach kiosk #74. /we had great ribs at Big

D's place # 109, great ribs and chicken there. Panman, the Patron bottle is in my room, just the vbottle, no tequila, oh my god I am so drunk.

[QUOTE=Infamous Man;1296731]Anyone know a good barbershop in Sosua or Puerto Plata?[/QUOTE]I have been going to Jose Master Barber on Pedro Clisante, for a few years, located on the same side as The Shark Bar just before the now defunct Sea-Crets.

I pay him RD200 which includes a nice tip, if he tries to charge you more politely tell him to go F himself, that Sr F. B. I. Sent you, and you want a bigger discount!

Across the street from rockies is a shop I used. The price was good and you get full service. Two sisters own the shop and were the only women I met there who were not selling pussy. However next door you can get a full service massage.

QUOTE=Infamous Man; 1296731]Anyone know a good barbershop in Sosua or Puerto Plata?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1296910]eating one of the best mofongos ever at Mofongo King Sosua beach kiosk #74.[/QUOTE]These look like some decent chicas from the capitol who are looking for work in Sosua. Maybe 500 to 1, 500 pesos for short time, I'm guessing. Maybe you will see them. Not sure if this is your taste but looks like they are around the playa.

[url]http://youtu.be/JXc21DZDrz4[/url]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1296916]These look like some decent chicas from the capitol who are looking for work in Sosua. Maybe 500 to 1, 500 pesos for short time, I'm guessing. Maybe you will see them. Not sure if this is your taste but looks like they are around the playa.

[url]http://youtu.be/JXc21DZDrz4[/url][/QUOTE]One is from Santo Domingo, the other one from a town near Santiago.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1296936]One is from Santo Domingo, the other one from a town near Santiago.[/QUOTE]So you tapped that already?

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1296895]Always recount your money, In front of the street guys. My two friends had a guy in. Front of New Gardens. What he would do is show you how much your getting back on the calculator, but then he will count back your money real fast, but will try and short you 50 to a 100 pesoz, It took us a while to catch on. It adds up if he keeps shorting everyone.[/QUOTE]Like a wad of bills, he counts in front of you, one or two bills are folded in half, at the same time a woman creates a disturbance or a distraction, in an instant the guy splits leaving you short changed.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1296940]So you tapped that already?[/QUOTE]Not the video chicas, we are going to meet with a couple in a few minutes.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1296946]Not the video chicas, we are going to meet with a couple in a few minutes.[/QUOTE]OK cool, the one on the left looked nice, but I couldn't see the body? Sounds like you guys got some good numbers out there as far as the talent?

I don't understand why guys feel the need to broadcast what is occurring in DR, are we on this board to curtail or stop things from continuing. Are we bleeding hearts or

Are we mongerers. Too much info about where we go and what we do, disgusting to me really. Guys spilling the beans for nothing, or am I missing something?

For example, several workers near my work site have ventured to sosua and have returned to work site with pictures and wild tales of Dominican life. Not only do they.

Show pictures to the guys at the work site but they also show them to the women WTF! They tell them how much they pay and names and dates.

A friend of my went to request a couple of months off for his usual DR trip. His female boss said to him,"oh time for a sosua run". He was floored, and could all but tense

To keep from hitting the floor. He has never talk to her about where he chooses to travel, but for some loose lipped lindas, she know the all the business.

I don't understand why men cannot keep their mouths shut anymore.

Rant over.

Peace,

BBL

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1296916]These look like some decent chicas from the capitol who are looking for work in Sosua. Maybe 500 to 1, 500 pesos for short time, I'm guessing. Maybe you will see them. Not sure if this is your taste but looks like they are around the playa.

[url]http://youtu.be/JXc21DZDrz4[/url][/QUOTE]

I hope she looked better than Leonardo I had in SDQ hahahahah. Man remember she was ugly, even her spanish sounded ugly to us. But that body OMG, she was on par.

With some major strippers I have seen in the clubs. Hope your showing Boriqua a good time!

Peace.

BBL.

[QUOTE=Panman; 1296793]Arrived Friday for the first time in almost 2 years. My flight to SDQ had arrived 2 hours late so ended up driving half of the trip in the darkness of the night. Boricua Online was my sidekick ensuring that for every obstacle conquered on the road I earned a shot of Patron. By the time I got to Sosua my head was spinning, tired but still horny. Picked up a thick Haitian lady who gave me one of the best sessions I've had, was down with anything, and BBBJ like a porn star. Fun, but nothing to be proud of in looks.

Next day drove around PP go sightseeing, then returned to Sosua to sit at the beach before the night arrived. Met a pretty bartender with the same old story, arrived in Sosua not too long ago, working to support her kid. Took her out at night then came back to my room for a passionate and enjoyable session. She never talked about money, but any woman in this town expects something in return. Stuffed a 2 thousand peso note in her purse and left it at that. Will repeat.

Woke up to no water in the hotel. Boricua Online still offline after his Classicos escapade. Sosua cleaned up a little since my last visit. There were less desperate children asking for coins, less english speaking hustlers bothering me, and great ratio of women to men at night. Still trying to clear the yells of CHANGE, MASSAGE, and CONCHO from my memory, but that is nothing to worry about.

On a funny note, the window washing children working at the red light in Puerto Plata rejected my 5 peso reward, instead telling me they only take dollars. When I began to drive away they changed their mind. Someone spoiled the window washing market, STOP OVERPAYING guys.[/QUOTE]

Anybody have any suggestions on chicks with big PHAT (not fat) dump truck asses? Going do for a quickie soon.

Also, back in the day when I would go to Boca Chica I used to employ one or two of the young guys in the area. I would tell them EXACTLY what type of chick I was looking for and tell them to go look for chicks that met my requirements and bring them back to my place. I would chill by the pool and wait for them to return. If I was pleased I'd keep them if not I'd send them on their way. This worked like a charm. It's not really needed at night but during the day these guys know exactly where all these chicks live and they can save you a lot of time. Only problem was sometimes they wouldn't know when to stop bringing chicks by. LOL. I mean they'd come through with like 5 at a time at 2am while I'm already busy for the night. LOL!

Anyway, do you guys think this would work well in Sosua?

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv; 1296960]I don't understand why guys feel the need to broadcast what is occurring in DR, are we on this board to curtail or stop things from continuing. Are we bleeding hearts or

Are we mongerers. Too much info about where we go and what we do, disgusting to me really. Guys spilling the beans for nothing, or am I missing something?

For example, several workers near my work site have ventured to sosua and have returned to work site with pictures and wild tales of Dominican life. Not only do they.

Show pictures to the guys at the work site but they also show them to the women WTF! They tell them how much they pay and names and dates.

A friend of my went to request a couple of months off for his usual DR trip. His female boss said to him,"oh time for a sosua run". He was floored, and could all but tense

To keep from hitting the floor. He has never talk to her about where he chooses to travel, but for some loose lipped lindas, she know the all the business.

I don't understand why men cannot keep their mouths shut anymore.

Rant over.

Peace,

BBL[/QUOTE]I meant to tell you about this situation when I talked to you yesterday. I'm talking to my older brother brother on the phone yesterday and he mentioned the DR. I said when I ride the Caribb tours bus across country that the scenery is beautiful. He asked" Can I see the pictures?". I said get a passport and travel with me. He then responded with" I don't need to travel half way around the world for hooker pussy". I said it's complicated but I don't have time to go through the same merry-go-round with American chicks to only get back to where I started. Plus all the drama that goes with that takes too much energy. I've got a Thai chic now that only fucks me once a week but bitches about bullshit everyday."Who was that girl you smiled at?","Why werent you home when I called?"," You didn't call to say goodnight"?"I know you have another girlfriend". I would love to be single but then she knows she would'nt have anyone to complain to, so she figures why make me happy by leaving.

Well my brother meets a different girl every week only to be let down and come complaining to me. He has to hide his car because his ex just keyed it. He just got out of jail for beating another ex girlfriends brother up at a bar. After all the bullshit in his life he wants to joke about me " Buying poor pussy". My point is BBL is correct. I don't talk about Sosua to anyone in the States, they won't understand. At one family reunion my cousin joked in front of everyone" Are you still going to the DR to buy pussy?". I responded with" Does you're wife still only fuck you every six months?". Well his wife was pissed at both of us. Fellas keep you travel adventures confined to people who are traveling with you, Most people don't understand what we do.

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv;1296960]For example, several workers near my work site have ventured to sosua and have returned to work site with pictures and wild tales of Dominican life. Not only do they show pictures to the guys at the work site but they also show them to the women WTF! They tell them how much they pay and names and dates.[/QUOTE]Very, very unwise, in my opinion. Whatever happened to the concept that discretion is the better part of valor?

In many workplaces in the US such chatter might be considered sexual harassment by some female employees and could put your job at risk. I suppose it depends on the type of employment, but anyone in any kind of government work, law enforcement, or any form of education (which covers a pretty large percentage of the work force) would certainly be well advised to keep their mouths shut.

This is why I find it hard to understand why people travel to Sosua in groups. It is inevitable that some news of your activities will leak out back in your home country.

In ten years of traveling to the DR, I never discussed prostitution in the DR with ANYONE in the US, not even my best male friend. If anyone ever asked about it, which they hardly ever did, I would just say, yes, they have legal prostitution in the DR, but so does Canada, Mexico, Germany, the UK, Australia, and most of the world.

[QUOTE=Mongmann;1296991]Anybody have any suggestions on chicks with big PHAT (not fat) dump truck asses?[/QUOTE]Urban dictionary:

Dump-truck ass.

(and.) A bodaciously large ass that slams and bounces with each step. Usually there is a ripple that bounces throughout the cheek as the foot hits the ground.

"Daaamn dude she got that dump-truck ass! Look at that shit, everytime she step it go 'bah' 'bah' 'bah'"

You don't find a lot of Hottentots in the DR. Suggestion is to look in South Africa.

Alternatively you could just show this picture to some of the local guys.

[url]http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/Carel-Christian-Anthony-Last/The-Hottentot-Venus-Bushman-Woman.html[/url]

I Just loved gogo's reaction to this.

At one family reunion my cousin joked in front of everyone" Are you still going to the DR to buy pussy?". I responded with" Does you're wife still only fuck you every six months?"

Hahahahhaha, don't worry about anything Gogo, you're the doing the right thing all day, every day, \ let all the haters hate even family LOL. Hahahahhaha

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv; 1296960]I don't understand why guys feel the need to broadcast what is occurring in DR, are we on this board to curtail or stop things from continuing. Are we bleeding hearts or

Are we mongerers. Too much info about where we go and what we do, disgusting to me really. Guys spilling the beans for nothing, or am I missing something?[/QUOTE]I understand where you are coming from. Information is power. When pics and info gets posted on the net, not only does the target audience (which can be huge) get this information, but there is a multiplier effect because the targets tell other people and so on and so on. Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on where you sit, the info about Sosua has long been out the bag. Every trip report, pic, video, etc. Encouraging more and more dudes to go.

With the advent of the internet and digital photography, the days of keeping things on the hush are probably gone. Perhaps this is why you will hear people from time to time talk about the "Old Sosua" in the same way that someone might talk about the "Old Times Square."

It's a catch 22 in some ways because some guys that want to curtail the momentum found out about places like Sosua through these very same avenues. If one is lucky enough to find a piece of paradise, he might want to seriously think twice before blabbing about it on the Net, unless he is comfortable sharing this information.

You're at a pool party in Sosua and some guy with a camera takes videos and post them online for everyone to see. Next thing you know, your wife or GF finds out about the vid.

I'm waiting for Ebony or Essence to do a cover article about black American men going to Sosua for sex the way they did for Rio. It's only a matter of time.

To late on Essence this was in the magazine a while back:

Beware Of Your Man's Vacation To The Dominican Republic.

Annika HarrisJanuary 27, 2010 38 Comments / relationships.

A few years ago a big secret was revealed: American men would flock to Brazil for secret sex getaways. But now that this is known, the Dominican Republic has replaced Brazil as the sex tourism capital, according to Keith Murphy, who wrote 'Fool's Paradise' for Essence. Men, especially black men, are traveling to the D. R. To have sex with (and exploit) beautiful women, who are willing to do anything to support themselves and families. There are three main reasons the D. R. Is ripe for sex tourism. One, prostitution is legal. Two, the peso is so weak compared to the dollar that a man of meager means in the USA can feel like a big spender there. And three, travel to the Dominican Republic is relatively inexpensive — an all-inclusive stay on the popular Boca Chica Beach and round-trip airfare can cost as little as $600. And some pay-for-play can run only $20. Several online companies specialize in adult vacation packages. DR Nights, an online sex tour company, has a $2, 500 package that includes deluxe hotel accommodations, a 24-hour companion for three nights, and three more companions for two hours every day. But what might be cheap initially could end up costing a life later. Many in the Dominican Republic sex trade act as if HIV / AIDS doesn't exist, and even more disturbing, one of the men Murphy interviewed said he can tell whether a woman is infected. Then, there's the potential to bring the virus or another STD home to a girlfriend or wife.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1297304]I understand where you are coming from. Information is power. When pics and info gets posted on the net, not only does the target audience (which can be huge) get this information, but there is a multiplier effect because the targets tell other people and so on and so on. Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on where you sit, the info about Sosua has long been out the bag. Every trip report, pic, video, etc. Encouraging more and more dudes to go.

With the advent of the internet and digital photography, the days of keeping things on the hush are probably gone. Perhaps this is why you will hear people from time to time talk about the "Old Sosua" in the same way that someone might talk about the "Old Times Square."

It's a catch 22 in some ways because some guys that want to curtail the momentum found out about places like Sosua through these very same avenues. If one is lucky enough to find a piece of paradise, he might want to seriously think twice before blabbing about it on the Net, unless he is comfortable sharing this information.

You're at a pool party in Sosua and some guy with a camera takes videos and post them online for everyone to see. Next thing you know, your wife or GF finds out about the vid.

I'm waiting for Ebony or Essence to do a cover article about black American men going to Sosua for sex the way they did for Rio. It's only a matter of time.[/QUOTE]

article in essaence a couple years back: i am jumping on a plane can someone grab the full article?

byline: keith murphy.

it's friday night in santo domingo, the capital city of the dominican republic, and the infamous seafront strip known as the malecon is alive. five noticeably young-looking girls sit patiently on a barely lit curb as a steady stream of cars race by, salsa and merengue blasting from their speakers. a black ford pickup truck screeches to a stop, and after some haggling the driver opens his door and drives off with two of the young women. minutes later i'm propositioned by a woman blessed with an olympic gold medalist track star's build, wearing painted-on black designer jeans, a red top and midnight-black pumps. with my yankee fashion sense-polo shirt, khaki shorts and k-swiss sneakers-i might as well be draped in the american flag; to these women, a man with usa currency is choice game. the woman moves in for the kill."americano," she coos."good time?"

for the 3. 4 million international tourists who flocked to the dominican republic in 2008-figures released by the dominican republic ministry of tourism-the country's allure is obvious: miles of sun-soaked beaches, numerous five-star resorts and expansive golf courses. but for many of the african-american men who travel to the d. r. each year, another attraction is on the itinerary-beautiful dominican women who make up the thriving sex tourism industry.

"the number of our african-american clients has been growing every year," says mark, a vip host at dr nights, one of many online companies that offer adult vacation packages to the country, complete with female "companions." citing his company's privacy policy, mark won't reveal his last name and refuses to give specific information about the number of black men his company serves. but he chalks up the country's popularity to the allure of the "beautiful women and their voluptuous bodies." says the host,"they definitely appeal to african-american men."

there's no shortage of black men who'll agree."the girls have great bodies, beautiful faces, nice hair and good attitudes," says eric, a handsome 28-year-old who works in sales in los angeles and has a long-term girlfriend back home."the way the women treat you here, it's like a fantasy coming true."

the surge in the number of men traveling to the dominican republic for sex has also been noticed by chad dion lassiter, m. s. w, adjunct lecturer at the university of pennsylvania school of social policy and practice."over the past few years there's been a real paradigm shift in that the hoards of black men who used to go to brazil are now going to the d. r," says lassiter."there are scores of men who come back from the d. r. bragging about their conquests, showing pictures and videotaped footage to their circles of friends, or even posting it on various web sites. black men traveling to the d. r. for sex is not a widely kept secret anymore."

Thanks Revere, but Essence is full of shit. There is a video posted a few months ago on the Gogo forum about black women going to Jamaica for a girls vacation (wink). Essence won't post about that. The article didn't mention Sosua once, so how informed are they really? The best they could do was five girls on the Malecon? But yeah, a lot of veterans are keeping their mouths shut now, but mainly because they don't want the young wolfpacks fucking up their spots.

[QUOTE=The Windex Man; 1283569]I remember my first threesome and it was in DR. I was a rookie and had the fantasy like Frannie mentioned of doing it like the porn stars and do two chicks at once. Man, that shit was horrible. I made the ultimate mistake of doing something to SirMarjalot, I picked two fine ass chicks, but they had no chemistry with each other. First time they were ever even in the same room together. I don't know what I was thinking. Before going in the room, I should have at least verified that they would munch each other's pussies. I made the wrong assumption that they would, based on a show that the two chicks put on before we went in the room. They would grab each others asses and kiss each other, but with no tongue. Should have took that as a sign. It was all a ploy so that I would get both of them and they would get my money.

In the room, I had the fantasy of them both giving me a BJ. Yeah, it happened, but what happened was that one would blow, then other would watch. When the first chick is done blowing, the other chick would rinse my dick off with a washcloth, then she would blow. The second chick couldn't stomach the idea of sharing saliva with the first chick. If they can't share saliva, then surely they won't lick each others pussies and guess what, they didn't. Then came the fucking part. I fuck one chick and instead of the other chick doing something else to me sexually, she's over on the other side of the bed playing with her pussy and doing an acting job, making all kinds of noises like she's truly turned on that I'm fucking the other chick. Other chick wouldn't even sit on my face. Just played with herself. This fantasy is not working out. Then I got pissed and said that it's time for the one playing with her pussy to earn some money, by getting on this dick. Now comes the changing condoms part. I was like "Damn!", this ain't like the porn movies at all! Now I got to keep changing condoms everytime I pull out of one chick and go into the other. Needless to say, all this shit made me go completely soft, I didn't nut at all, paid the chicks (cost me 2000 pesos each!) , and told them to get the fuck out.

A year or so later, I did have a successful threesome with a different set of girls who kept trying to convince that they were truly into each other and would prove it. We made a deal that I will only agree to a session with them, if I saw them munch each other. They got into a 69 and munched like they haven't eaten for weeks, then they both munched on me, one in the front and one in the back. I WAS LIKE "Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner!"

Hope to find at least one "Chicken Dinner" again in July when I return! It is not easy to find (at least not for me)![/QUOTE]I think having 2 or 3 girls at the same time can work if they are good friends. Otherwise they will be uncomfortable and you can expect poor service.

Back then he was an assistant at Spelman college. My buddy knew him so I sent a message that he can go fuck himself and hoped that he was handsomely rewarded for selling out.

Women, especially black women were pissed for months. These are the same women who were giving up the pussy in rations to their respective husbands and boyfriends. Still there were those sneaking off to jamaica for sex tourism yet were sanctomonius at men for their alleged boorish behavior. Please.

I doubt you need to worry about the potential monger who comes here seeking info, you need to. Worry about the ones who fly down without a clue and refuse to ask questions. In may on my return flight, there were several NFL players and I noticed at least twice as many guys in Santo Domingo this year and I am sure there will be more next year.

[quote=alwayshorny 2; 1284705]if you read back a few pages, i mention "game" as a shot to the bullshit that was written by some. i never been to rio. i was married during it's heyday and there was no way the wx was going to let that shit fly.

now that i add up the costs to go to rio, it is not worth the money. why would i travel so far and burn so much cash just to sex a women that may be marginally better than the best of sosua? plus, as i approach 40 i'm still trying to get all the free younger pussy i can before it is all over and i am forced to pay.

i was going to rio, but decided to spend the same money going to spain for two weeks. i might hit a casa up during my few days in barcelona, but this is not a mongering trip. some of you get too wrapped up in this shit and don't know how to live a real life. mongering is not my everything.

sosua can be great if you don't play yourself. so rock your walkers gear and put speedstick over the funk. i will continue to be the smooth, fresh brother pulling the hotties and getting top shelf service. see it in person early august![/quote]

i have been to brazil and also to rio 4 times from 2003 to 2010. great city but getting real expensive. the big problem is that help disco and the cafe atlantico next door closed down. those were the 2 best places in town for action. help may have been the best disco for mongers in the world.

I would never worry about mongers overwhelming Sosua. The more you throw at her, the more she will come back with, that is Sosua, the beast, supply always exceeds demand. Most of the chicas there are transient and arrive on knowing what the demand is, (IME- In my experience).

I've been away for a while, I read the comparisons with Brazil, its much easier for me to find GFE with DR chicas than Brazil ones and the price value you get with DR chica is a no brainer. Brazil is ok for once in a while but DR would be my bread and butter.

Also Orgasmico, thanks for posting the video of the honey-bunnies. They are the exact reasons for my visits to the DR. If their performance matched their looks that would be a home run in my book. After seeing the video, think its time for me make a visit to the land of 'bailando in la playa', as they say. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1297304]I understand where you are coming from. Information is power. When pics and info gets posted on the net, not only does the target audience (which can be huge) get this information, but there is a multiplier effect because the targets tell other people and so on and so on. Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on where you sit, the info about Sosua has long been out the bag. Every trip report, pic, video, etc. Encouraging more a nd more dudes to go.

With the advent of the internet and digital photography, the days of keeping things on the hush are probably gone. Perhaps this is why you will hear people from time to time talk about the "Old Sosua" in the same way that someone might talk about the "Old Times Square."

It's a catch 22 in some ways because some guys that want to curtail the momentum found out about places like Sosua through these very same avenues. If one is lucky enough to find a piece of paradise, he might want to seriously think twice before blabbing about it on the Net, unless he is comfortable sharing this information.

You're at a pool party in Sosua and some guy with a camera takes videos and post them online for everyone to see. Next thing you know, your wife or GF finds out about the vid.

I'm waiting for Ebony or Essence to do a cover article about black American men going to Sosua for sex the way they did for Rio. It's only a matter of time.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for sharing. The most aggressive girls on Cupid may not be the most worthwhile. Same on Sosua's strip.

I found online hunting extremely rewarding. But it does take work and effort, especially if you are after genuine relationships.

To give you some perspective: the cupid girls I spent the most in-person time with did ask me for money the second time we chatted on MSN. Yet she turned out to be sweet, funny and gorgeous. She introduced me to her entire extended family over the 4 time we met. But she is also dirt poor. Getting money from punters online is her job. And I have little doubt she'll end up in Sosua ultimately.

That's just the rules of the game. Enjoy it while it lasts.

[QUOTE=Chert1; 1296037]If I were you I would stay clear of these sites if you are looking for a non-pro. I just spent the last 2 weeks conducting what I call a social experiment on DominicanCupid. I found it quite amusing and enlightening. My conclusion is. These girls are VERY GOOD con artists. Or at least the majority of them are.

I created a profile. Posted some pics. I am not a bad looking guy, but definitely no Brad Pitt. In the first few days I ended up with a shitload of women being interested in me. But I want to talk about a particular one.

A few days ago a girl with no profile photo emailed me on Cupid. Told me she was interested in me and left a email address saying if I wanted to see her to contact her. I did, and she was smoking hot. Late 20's, latina, tight little body on he. Got a hard on just looking at her.

We started talking a bit. I speak broken spanish. But used Google translate. And I understand quite a bit so communication was not a problem. After about 2 days she told me she loved me (bullshit off course). I played along. Told her I want to meet her when I come in August. The next day she calls me on msn. She is in her bathtub and posed for me (which non-pro, decent dominican girl from a good family will do that?). Then she said she is sad to say goodbye. I asked why she wants to say good bye. LOL. She said her internet is getting disconnected. I wanted to see how this plays out. I told her I can send her a bit of money for internet (I was under no impression she was for real. Like I said this was a social experiment). She said no she can't accept it. So I said ok.

Next day I get a text on my phone (gave her my cell phone # to make the impression I was suckered in). It says "papi. My mom says I need to pay the internet. Send the money".

At this point I was laughing. But I played along. This girl was GOOD. I sent her a little money the next day. Understand me. I was under no impresion she was being real, I decided to invest a little money in my experiment to see it through.

Next day, I see she has 16 new male friends on her MSN profie. I confront her about this. She gets mad and said they were friends from before. I acted hurt and deleted her. She kept barraging my msn for 4 solid hours, telling me how much she loves me. How I hurt her, and so on. I refriended her and started talking with her again. At this point she almost had me fooled. But I still looked at it with a grain of salt.

Next day she texts me saying her mother is very angry at her for accepting money from me. She told me her mom slapped her. Then in the evening, she started to ask me questions about my previous sexual encounters. I asked her why. She said her father wanted to know. I told het it is not important and asked her if she has a problem with the fact that I was sexually active in the past. She said yes. At this point I played into it and acted like I was offended. This resulted in a fight. I ended up deleting her again and told her I will go to sosua and fuck all the working girls there. Next day I sent her a message saying it is over between us. And apologized for my "bad words". Then I was back on cupid talking to all sorts of women. At this point I thaught it was over. Well. I was wrong.

2 days later I started talking to another woman on Cupid. And she started to ask me questions about other women I met there. She was persistent, and I had a feeling. So I told her I met someone special a few days ago but it didn't work. Next thing you know she tells me she loves me and it turns out it was the same chica I was talking to before. LOL.

She said stuff like. I want to be the mother of your children, and other similar stuff. She is VERY good at faking tears and affection. I played along and refriended her on msn for the second time.

Next 2 days we were just talking, but she would disconnect in the middle of convversation and not come back for a few hours or at all. I played hurt and asked her why she doesn't want to talk with me and so on. She said it was her internet and that she is tired from studying.

About 2 days later. She starts talking about some exam she needs to write. She claimed to be a doctor and wanted to move and work in the US. She said the exam is $1000, but her mom will pay for it. Then yesterday I get a text on my phone and an email:

"mi madre me dio 700 dolares. Creo que en verdad me los devolvio por que cuando yo trabaje. Le ayudaba mucho. El examen es en 15 dias pero tengo que pagarlo en lunes para no quedarme afuera se septiempre. Estoy un poco desconsertada."

On the phone she told me her mom gave her 700. 00$. I saw where this was going so I played stupid. I replied."that was nice of your mom". Knowing well what was coming next.

She got on msn and was complaining about this situation, and before she could ask me I told her I can't help her. To which she replied that she was not asking me for it. I suggested to her that she can come here and stay with me, work for a while and write the exam later (by now I had a hard time keeping a straight face). She replied "Thank, how nice". And Disconnected. As soon as she disconnected she was back on Cupid. I wrote to her on cupid something to the extent that she was already looking for a ne sucker. To which she replied that it was over between us because I always doubt her. LOL.

Sorry for my rambling, but I thought this was an appropriate reply to NavDude's question. This girl appeared very innocent, she faked tears and joy really well and if I wasn't as jaded as I was I would have believed her. 100% professional acting. Very good.

I am willing to bet it is not over yet either.

As far as I am concerned it was a good investment on my part sending her a little money. I got a good insight into the character and motivation of these girls.

The lesson to be learned here is that use Cupid only to line up chicas for a GFE. Never fall in love or try to seek a serious relationship. 99% are pro's.

Anton out.

I am sure this is not over yet[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sammy Sosa;1297592]To give you some perspective: the cupid girls I spent the most in-person time with did ask me for money the second time we chatted on MSN. Yet she turned out to be sweet, funny and gorgeous. She introduced me to her entire extended family over the 4 time we met.[/QUOTE]Let me start off by saying that this post is not meant to flame anyone.

But I would like to ask the guys with experience with this: what does it mean when a chica introduces you to her family? When I hear guys say this I've always interpreted it as she is broadcasting to the family "look at the new gringo sucker I reeled in", but guys seem to wear this introduction as a badge of honor.

Is this supposed to signify that she really likes and trust you or something?

Maybe I am just an asshole, but I am not interested in meeting chicas family members. I am usually there less than a week and it's not like we are about to announce we are getting married or something. Plus it just means that more people have now become familiar with your face and are ready to rat you out if they spot you with con otra chica.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1297623]When I hear guys say this I've always interpreted it as she is broadcasting to the family "look at the new gringo sucker I reeled in", but guys seem to wear this introduction as a badge of honor.[/QUOTE]Possibly, yes. Some "trophy parading" going on there. But then who cares what's her motivations? As long as you are clear what are yours. .

I doubt anyone will claim "meeting the family" is the most fun part of chasing cupid girls. Nor is the sex. But if you are in the right mindset, these true cultural immersions may turn out to be a thrilling, romantically rewarding experience.

This is a great question. I will tell you a girl who I met that works at a clothing store in SD that I wanted to just bang. I told her when I fly in just meet me at my hotel. She said no I cannot just go out and spend the night with you. My family has to meet with you and have dinner to make sure you are okay. Some girls believe it or not can not just go out and spend the night with a guy unless they meet the family. It is sort of like proving to the family they are with a good guy. Now there might be some expectation that this guy has potential for marriage, but the family does not want to see her with some thug. Also, it shows the family that she is dating a respectable man. That Is my two cents. A non pro for sure you are just not going to fly in and spend the night with a girl if you have not met her family and she lives at home. I forgot to tell this story I had met a non pro and had met the family she was 19 and when I came back to see her again. I made the mistake to think I could roll up to her families house at 11:00 pm and take her out. Her mother said to me see you tomorrow she is not feeling good. Basically, I showed no manners coming late to smash her.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1297623]Let me start off by saying that this post is not meant to flame anyone.

But I would like to ask the guys with experience with this: what does it mean when a chica introduces you to her family? When I hear guys say this I've always interpreted it as she is broadcasting to the family "look at the new gringo sucker I reeled in", but guys seem to wear this introduction as a badge of honor.

Is this supposed to signify that she really likes and trust you or something?

Maybe I am just an asshole, but I am not interested in meeting chicas family members. I am usually there less than a week and it's not like we are about to announce we are getting married or something. Plus it just means that more people have now become familiar with your face and are ready to rat you out if they spot you with con otra chica.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Revere;1297631]This is a great question. I will tell you a girl who I met that works at a clothing store in SD that I wanted to just bang. I told her when I fly in just meet me at my hotel. She said no I cannot just go out and spend the night with you. My family has to meet with you and have dinner to make sure you are okay. Some girls believe it or not can not just go out and spend the night with a guy unless they meet the family. It is sort of like proving to the family they are with a good guy. Now there might be some expectation that this guy has potential for marriage, but the family does not want to see her with some thug. Also, it shows the family that she is dating a respectable man. That Is my two cents. A non pro for sure you are just not going to fly in and spend the night with a girl if you have not met her family and she lives at home. I forgot to tell this story I had met a non pro and had met the family she was 19 and when I came back to see her again. I made the mistake to think I could roll up to her families house at 11:00 pm and take her out. Her mother said to me see you tomorrow she is not feeling good. Basically, I showed no manners coming late to smash her.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that Revere. You gave the non-pro side of things which I had not thought about at the time I posted (I was looking at it from the perspective of dealing with pros) , but this information will definitely prove very useful for my foray into that side of the island (SD). To be totally honest that is exactly how I was imagining it going down: me flying in and calling one of my Cupid chicas over to my hotel, even if only to go out to dinner. Definitely would have been like "what for?" if I was asked to come over and meet her fam. But just goes to show that one needs to be more aware of the culture and customs that take place outside of Puta Land (Sosua).

But as an aside, let me ask you this: does this same rule of meeting the family apply to all the men trying to take her out (Dominicanos)? Or does the rule apply only to foreigners? I say that because I assume that if the chica just tells her folks "I'm going out with friends" and her and her amigas go someplace to meet up with other guys (Dominicanos/fuck buddies), these fellas probably don't have to go through the same vetting process with her family.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1297661]Thanks for that Revere. You gave the non-pro side of things which I had not thought about at the time I posted (I was looking at it from the perspective of dealing with pros) , but this information will definitely prove very useful for my foray into that side of the island (SD). To be totally honest that is exactly how I was imagining it going down: me flying in and calling one of my Cupid chicas over to my hotel, even if only to go out to dinner. Definitely would have been like "what for?" if I was asked to come over and meet her fam. But just goes to show that one needs to be more aware of the culture and customs that take place outside of Puta Land (Sosua).

But as an aside, let me ask you this: does this same rule of meeting the family apply to all the men trying to take her out (Dominicanos)? Or does the rule apply only to foreigners? I say that because I assume that if the chica just tells her folks "I'm going out with friends" and her and her amigas go someplace to meet up with other guys (Dominicanos / fuck buddies) , these fellas probably don't have to go through the same vetting process with her family.[/QUOTE]Another good question. I do not know. One chica I met said her last boyfriend was married and she never had him meet the family. I think she was embarrassed and he was dick. A cop who use to threaten her. Also, you sound like you have a cool personality I found that if the family likes you the GFE experience you get is great. No girl who I met her family never provided nothing, but great GFE. Also, when you meet them bring a bottle of black label that has never failed me. Usually what will happen is the family will tell the girl do not mess up on him as he is a good guy. Also, I have sometimes given her a 1000 pesos or so let them cook for the family and me. Basically, the man is dominant in the DR so usually you are treated like a king.

Most dominicanas are family oriented and the nonpros don't want to be labelled a puta. A good girl does not stay out all night and if she is a respectable girl, you will need to meet the family. I am talking to one now who insists that I at least meet her brother.

It doesn't mean that you cannot sleep with these girls, you can take them out and probably fuck them all day and before the stroke of midnight LOL but most can't spend the night generally. You know that annoying friend they usually bring on first dates? Oftentimes they provide the excuse she needs to see you.

If u start fucking a non pro before meeting the family, she will probably won't be able to stay all night unless she comes up with a good lie, this type of non pro frees you up at night for mongering. The others are either in school or at work during the day but the best are the waitresses or hostesses who have to work until 2 or 3am :-)

this time instead of a full report i am going to post different mini posts of different topics in no specific order.

sunday night i went to classicos by 12:30 am, the place got packed a few minutes later. very hot girls there, better than saturday. this time i do not have to play the 'i am waiting for a friend' game every time a ugly chica approached me. one tall chica from santo domingo moved next to me. she was with another two chicas, also very hot. her name was maribel. she has a tongue piercing, was very nice to talk with her. i was not so sure to take her, she wanted 1500 short term or $100 usa all night. i am not an all night guy. i told her i was going to santo domingo next day, she wanted to go with me. i consider being more than 12 hours with a chica a long term relationship so i was not excited by the idea. i got her phone number and told her to wait for my call. she escorted me to the exit, i think she wanted to avoid me getting a deal with another clasicos chica, lol, there were a couple of hundreds more chicas outside classicos i can negotiate with.

i walked the strip and a petite skinny girl approached me. she almost begged me that she was without money, that she will go with me for 1, 000 pesos. she was very nice and sweet and i was under the influence of patron and presidente and with a body heat thanks to classicos girls and without my usual screening interview i accepted. she smiled and thank me. she was very nice during our short walk to sea breeze hotel.

we entered to the hotel and she said hi to the guard and she entered without giving a cedula. first red flag. we entered and she wanted money in advance, i told her i pay at the end. she went to the bathroom and came back a minute later. she was kind of incoherent every time she opened the mouth, she was a different girl there inside the room. no good. i began licking her nipples while she began to press my member. i felt a little pain, she accidentally gave me a minor cut with her nails. a minute later she began to say that she was not going to do anything with me because i have a little cut there and that i was sick and will sick her. wtf? i got mad but kept calm. at that time i wanted to smash her head with some solid structure. the toilet? no, i want a more solid structure to smash her head. the wall, yes, the wall. no, not the wall, i quickly found the most solid structure of the room: the bed's mattress. not, not that, i am not that aggressive, better shot him with a. 40.

i told her if not fucky fucky then no money. she told me she will call the police if i do not pay. i told her lets do it with the condom. she told me to hurry because the 30 minutes are almost over? 30 minutes? bad, that is my bad because of not agreeing all terms in advance. so i put on my condom, she positioned herself doggie position and when i was ready to insert myself inside her pussy, she farted. yes, she farted. the fart odor arrived to my nose in 1. 5 seconds so based on the fart speed equation f = [url]ewww[/url]! her fart winds traveled north at. 75 feet per second. the wind effect caused my erect member to get soft immediately. hey! maybe it is what i need to soften the mattress, a fart softener, mmm better not to. i asked her to leave. she told me i have to pay. i told her she has been a problem all night. she told me about calling the police again. my mind traveled in time remembering the bad experiences of other guys in similar situation. i also was thinking that she entered without a cedula. she told me she is 22 but who knows. she told me that i can masturbate while looking at her naked body, i told her i, ll pay her the 1000 pesos to leave. i paid and she left. be aware of this chica, check the pictures. next story: the independencia avenue putas panties giveaway.

[quote=boricuaonline; 1297677]at that time i wanted to smash her head with some solid structure. the toilet? no, i want a more solid structure to smash her head. the wall, yes, the wall. no, not the wall, i quickly found the most solid structure of the room: the bed's mattress. not, not that, i am not that aggressive, better shot him with a. 40.

i told her if not fucky fucky then no money. she told me she will call the police if i do not pay. i told her lets do it with the condom. she told me to hurry because the 30 minutes are almost over? 30 minutes? bad, that is my bad because of not agreeing all terms in advance. so i put on my condom, she positioned herself doggie position and when i was ready to insert myself inside her pussy, she farted. yes, she farted. the fart odor arrived to my nose in 1. 5 seconds so based on the fart speed equation f =

[url]ewww[/url]

! her fart winds traveled north at. 75 feet per second. the wind effect caused my erect member to get soft immediately. hey! maybe it is what i need to soften the mattress, a fart softener, mmm better not to. i asked her to leave. she told me i have to pay. i told her she has been a problem all night. she told me about calling the police again. my mind traveled in time remembering the bad experiences of other guys in similar situation. i also was thinking that she entered without a cedula. she told me she is 22 but who knows. she told me that i can masturbate while looking at her naked body, i told her i, ll pay her the 1000 pesos to leave. i paid and she left. be aware of this chica, check the pictures. next story: the independencia avenue putas panties giveaway.[/quote]bo always has the best stories, lol. early nomination for the gogo awards!

thanks for posting bro. drop the next one on us soon.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1297677]She almost begged me that she was without money, that she will go with me for 1, 000 pesos.[/QUOTE]A little too crack-hoe sounding for me, but I understand you were a little tipsy and horny. We've all been there. Farting before you had a chance to nutt wasn't cool. On the bright side, it sounds like you got some good odds out there. If you're lucky enough to catch the chica below, you might want to go for it.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1297316]Thanks Revere, but Essence is full of shit. There is a video posted a few months ago on the Gogo forum about black women going to Jamaica for a girls vacation (wink).[/QUOTE]I usually don't pay attention to this stuff. Women are mostly full of shit anyway. I posted this a while back:

[b]The Big-Ass Double Standard[/b]

When we do it, we are seen as exploiters or monsters; when they do it, it's for "Love":

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[b]Graphic film on female sex tourists cheered in Cannes:

[i]A graphic, unflinching look at the delicate interplay of desire, money and power among European women sex tourists and African gigolos hit the screen yesterday in the Cannes contender "Paradise: Love". [/i][/b]

"Paradise: Love" stars Margarethe Tiesel as Teresa, a 50-year-old Viennese single mother of an insolent teenage daughter who needs a break from it all, in a breakout performance cheered by audiences here.

She sets off alone to the white sandy coast of eastern Kenya where she falls in with a group of "sugar mamas", fellow middle-aged women who feel neglected at home and seek the attention of much younger local men in exchange for cash.

"It is about female loneliness that takes hold when you reach a certain age and no longer look like someone from an advert," Tiesel told reporters.

"The exploited begin to exploit in a place where they have power. I don't judge these women, I understand them and I understand completely what they struggle with."

Read more:

[url]http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/world/graphic-film-on-female-sex-tourists-cheered-in-cannes/story-e6frfkui-1226360720257#ixzz1vKQy05eg[/url]

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BULL-MUTHAFUCKIN-SHIT!

Let that had read as: "He sets off alone to the white sandy coast of Puerto Plata where he falls in with a group of "sugar daddies", fellow middle-aged men who feel neglected at home and seek the attention of much younger local women in exchange for cash."

And see how many "cheers from the audience" would have erupted. More like "jeers".

[QUOTE=Carrib;1297674]Most dominicanas are family oriented and the nonpros don't want to be labelled a puta. A good girl does not stay out all night and if she is a respectable girl, you will need to meet the family. I am talking to one now who insists that I at least meet her brother.[/QUOTE]Hey Savepro321, Revere and Carrib; thanks for all your question / answer session. It was both insightful and a great learning experience. I am sick of the usual "how much" question but once in a while these gems that you guys bring out, makes it worth the stay. Thanks again.

Biatch looks like a Tranny to Me. Would never touch!

Truth is she is a 8 here and a 6 there rough competition.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1297686]A little too crack-hoe sounding for me, but I understand you were a little tipsy and horny. We've all been there. Farting before you had a chance to nutt wasn't cool. On the bright side, it sounds like you got some good odds out there. If you're lucky enough to catch the chica below, you might want to go for it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1297677]We entered and she wanted money in advance, I told her I pay at the end.[/QUOTE]Rule #1, if the chick looks like she's on meth and might be a man don't take "her" back to your place. LOL! Seriously though, My rule is if they ever ask for money upfront kick them out immediately. Don't even say anymore. Just tell them to leave. Any chick asking to get paid up front will be nothing but trouble. This chick looked horrible anyway so she basically did you a favor.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1297623]Maybe I am just an asshole, but I am not interested in meeting chicas family members. I am usually there less than a week and it's not like we are about to announce we are getting married or something.[/QUOTE]Cupid girls or not! Once she asked for money, she is no longer a NON-PRO! Once money exchanges hands, on-line, or in the hotel, she is a fucking PRO! Please stop fooling yourselves to this silly illusion. Is there anything wrong with being a PRO, not a damn thing.

And about meeting the Fockers, that is the last thing that I want to do! Oh yeah, I would like to meet your family so I will have their respect in order to fuck you and give you some cash afterwards. Yes, but of course, they love you for who you are.

Come on gents! Face some reality here!

Some of you guys are starting to scare the hell out of me.

[QUOTE=Revere; 1297308]To late on Essence this was in the magazine a while back:

Beware Of Your Man's Vacation To The Dominican Republic.[/QUOTE]Pretty funny article, but soon someone will break down the Sosua scene, airports, myths about golf trips, hotels, puta prices, age differences, sex tourism on the North Coast, etc. in a mainstream article.

At the same time, its no secret that Italy has become like Rio for black American women:

http://youtu.be/JonfQQEbJig

http://youtu.be/AlD0MsFpQaI

http://youtu.be/xWmLS-yA_RQ

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1297623]Let me start off by saying that this post is not meant to flame anyone.

But I would like to ask the guys with experience with this: what does it mean when a chica introduces you to her family? When I hear guys say this I've always interpreted it as she is broadcasting to the family "look at the new gringo sucker I reeled in", but guys seem to wear this introduction as a badge of honor.

Is this supposed to signify that she really likes and trust you or something?

Maybe I am just an asshole, but I am not interested in meeting chicas family members. I am usually there less than a week and it's not like we are about to announce we are getting married or something. Plus it just means that more people have now become familiar with your face and are ready to rat you out if they spot you with con otra chica.[/QUOTE]If they don't invite me in to see where they live and meet who is inside the house, it is rude. I always rent a car and some women I will drive over to their house to pick them up. I park outside and go inside and shoot the shit with whomever is inside the house (mother, father, brothers, whoever). It is no big deal. Food and drink is offered to me (always coffee and whatever is cooking in the kitchen, freely). Houses are always very clean. Can be fun driving through some neighborhoods.

There are some crazy, violent men in this world and women should be careful with whom they go with. Some guys are not picky with whom they sleep with and there are women who are not picky with whom they sleep with, so there is always someone for everyone. Some guys are picky regarding the women they sleep with and will jump through some hoops in order to f_ck a very fine low mileage woman. (If a guy believes all women are the same, I would not agree with that).

[QUOTE=Carrib;1297674]Most dominicanas are family oriented[/QUOTE]Works that way for me in NYC as well. It's not unusual to see Dominicans, or Latinas in general, out and about with their families, even at bars and clubs. Things go on as usual because it's normal to have family around.

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce;1297712]Biatch looks like a Tranny to Me. Would never touch![/QUOTE]She is around every night. (friendly, ugly, pushy) Hangs at the Bermuda Bar.

boricua i am just trying to find out from you what happened at classicos sunday. i seen some pictures you posted of stunners. did you not see any in classicos on sunday. were you not really feeling the vibe. i am just surprised because the pictures you have posted on the board you usually have a real hot chica with you. could you give us all some insight because you speak perfect spainish so for you pulling a stunner is really not that hard.

[quote=boricuaonline; 1297677]this time instead of a full report i am going to post different mini posts of different topics in no specific order.

sunday night i went to classicos by 12:30 am, the place got packed a few minutes later. very hot girls there, better than saturday. this time i do not have to play the 'i am waiting for a friend' game every time a ugly chica approached me. one tall chica from santo domingo moved next to me. she was with another two chicas, also very hot. her name was maribel. she has a tongue piercing, was very nice to talk with her. i was not so sure to take her, she wanted 1500 short term or $100 usa all night. i am not an all night guy. i told her i was going to santo domingo next day, she wanted to go with me. i consider being more than 12 hours with a chica a long term relationship so i was not excited by the idea. i got her phone number and told her to wait for my call. she escorted me to the exit, i think she wanted to avoid me getting a deal with another clasicos chica, lol, there were a couple of hundreds more chicas outside classicos i can negotiate with.

i walked the strip and a petite skinny girl approached me. she almost begged me that she was without money, that she will go with me for 1, 000 pesos. she was very nice and sweet and i was under the influence of patron and presidente and with a body heat thanks to classicos girls and without my usual screening interview i accepted. she smiled and thank me. she was very nice during our short walk to sea breeze hotel.

we entered to the hotel and she said hi to the guard and she entered without giving a cedula. first red flag. we entered and she wanted money in advance, i told her i pay at the end. she went to the bathroom and came back a minute later. she was kind of incoherent every time she opened the mouth, she was a different girl there inside the room. no good. i began licking her nipples while she began to press my member. i felt a little pain, she accidentally gave me a minor cut with her nails. a minute later she began to say that she was not going to do anything with me because i have a little cut there and that i was sick and will sick her. wtf? i got mad but kept calm. at that time i wanted to smash her head with some solid structure. the toilet? no, i want a more solid structure to smash her head. the wall, yes, the wall. no, not the wall, i quickly found the most solid structure of the room: the bed's mattress. not, not that, i am not that aggressive, better shot him with a. 40.

i told her if not fucky fucky then no money. she told me she will call the police if i do not pay. i told her lets do it with the condom. she told me to hurry because the 30 minutes are almost over? 30 minutes? bad, that is my bad because of not agreeing all terms in advance. so i put on my condom, she positioned herself doggie position and when i was ready to insert myself inside her pussy, she farted. yes, she farted. the fart odor arrived to my nose in 1. 5 seconds so based on the fart speed equation f =

[url]ewww[/url]

! her fart winds traveled north at. 75 feet per second. the wind effect caused my erect member to get soft immediately. hey! maybe it is what i need to soften the mattress, a fart softener, mmm better not to. i asked her to leave. she told me i have to pay. i told her she has been a problem all night. she told me about calling the police again. my mind traveled in time remembering the bad experiences of other guys in similar situation. i also was thinking that she entered without a cedula. she told me she is 22 but who knows. she told me that i can masturbate while looking at her naked body, i told her i, ll pay her the 1000 pesos to leave. i paid and she left. be aware of this chica, check the pictures. next story: the independencia avenue putas panties giveaway.[/quote]

Boricua likes classicos but with his tone of voice the women can hardly understand what he says because of all the noise up there. He had a bit of bad luck with crack w.h.o.r.e.s, one followed him all the way to the hotel until he asked the security to intervene. Another hideous thing tried to offer him a 200 peso BJ in front of New Garden. It is just his nature, he doesn't yell or get rude with hoes. I regret not been around the time he picked that up, when he went out I was already busy in the room.

Panman thanks for the update because I was surprised. Guys go back and see some of images Boriqua has posted they are very hot and in no way reflect the taste of the image he posted. I am serious this guy has great taste so please do not judge him on this recent image he posted.

QUOTE=Panman; 1297916]Boricua likes classicos but with his tone of voice the women can hardly understand what he says because of all the noise up there. He had a bit of bad luck with crack w. H. O. Are. E. S, one followed him all the way to the hotel until he asked the security to intervene. Another hideous thing tried to offer him a 200 peso BJ in front of New Garden. It is just his nature, he doesn't yell or get rude with hoes. I regret not been around the time he picked that up, when he went out I was already busy in the room.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Panman;1297916]Boricua; It is just his nature, he doesn't yell or get rude with hoes.[/QUOTE]That is a beautiful trait for a man to have, isn't it? Kudos to him.

Thank you for posting info about that puta, not many here would and I also applaud you for taking the high road, by simply paying her ($25) to leave instead of getting policia involved.

For those berating fellow mongers about meeting family, personally I haven't had to do it much but my ex who had her own place, had me meet her aunt, her fine ass cousins and I was treated to a good home cooked Dominican meal. In my case, my ex family was from nagua and her mom died long ago. She lived in SD but most of her fam lived out if town.

A 20 something non pro who is a respectable girl will not be allowed to stay out all night with a stranger or she will be accused of being a puta. If that means I have to force myself to meet her family and get treated like a king while I bang their extemely hot 20 something chica, I am more than willing to go thru the "pain "

Can you avoid this? Sure you can, it simply means that the girl will need a good excuse for her family or you can only see her up until midnight or so. I have had many Cinderella dates LOL. Those of you unwilling to deal with this hassle, there's always the puta route.

PS a few members can vouch for me, please note that the non pro chicas I deal with are drop dead gorgeous, my ex has hazzle eyes and used be a part time promo girl for different bevergage companies. Another I went out with did promos for samsung. When I speak of going thru hassles and hoops one look at these stunners and you'll see why.

[QUOTE=Carrib; 1297938]Thank you for posting info about that puta, not many here would and I also applaud you for taking the high road, by simply paying her ($25) to leave instead of getting policia involved.

For those berating fellow mongers about meeting family, personally I haven't had to do it much but my ex who had her own place, had me meet her aunt, her fine ass cousins and I was treated to a good home cooked Dominican meal. In my case, my ex family was from nagua and her mom died long ago. She lived in SD but most of her fam lived out if town.

A 20 something non pro who is a respectable girl will not be allowed to stay out all night with a stranger or she will be accused of being a puta. If that means I have to force myself to meet her family and get treated like a king while I bang their extemely hot 20 something chica, I am more than willing to go thru the "pain "

Can you avoid this? Sure you can, it simply means that the girl will need a good excuse for her family or you can only see her up until midnight or so. I have had many Cinderella dates LOL. Those of you unwilling to deal with this hassle, there's always the puta route.

PS a few members can vouch for me, please note that the non pro chicas I deal with are drop dead gorgeous, my ex has hazzle eyes and used be a part time promo girl for different bevergage companies. Another I went out with did promos for samsung. When I speak of going thru hassles and hoops one look at these stunners and you'll see why.[/QUOTE]I diddo these sentiments word for word and this is exactly how I operate. I have no problems meeting the family of some chicas I meet granted they are in moto distance. This fulfills something for the chica even if its something mundane as a "hey mom, dad look, I snagged a gringo" a lot of times it also opens so many doors as well meeting the sisters and cousins, its worth the risk and if I can get a home cooked dominican meal out of it? Thats just the cherry on the sundae!

A couple of notes, if things ever started to get serious just make it clear to your chica that you like her and her alone and that her families problems and needs don't become yours because some will try and do that.

Carrib is right that no chica from a respectable home will be allowed to stay out overnight with a stranger, especially a gringo or you are a Puta and the cinderella date will be the standard for quite some time til you pass the threshold, whenever that may be, YMMV.

Your funny. Good post.

[QUOTE=Carrib; 1297938]Thank you for posting info about that puta, not many here would and I also applaud you for taking the high road, by simply paying her ($25) to leave instead of getting policia involved.

For those berating fellow mongers about meeting family, personally I haven't had to do it much but my ex who had her own place, had me meet her aunt, her fine ass cousins and I was treated to a good home cooked Dominican meal. In my case, my ex family was from nagua and her mom died long ago. She lived in SD but most of her fam lived out if town.

A 20 something non pro who is a respectable girl will not be allowed to stay out all night with a stranger or she will be accused of being a puta. If that means I have to force myself to meet her family and get treated like a king while I bang their extemely hot 20 something chica, I am more than willing to go thru the "pain "

Can you avoid this? Sure you can, it simply means that the girl will need a good excuse for her family or you can only see her up until midnight or so. I have had many Cinderella dates LOL. Those of you unwilling to deal with this hassle, there's always the puta route.

PS a few members can vouch for me, please note that the non pro chicas I deal with are drop dead gorgeous, my ex has hazzle eyes and used be a part time promo girl for different bevergage companies. Another I went out with did promos for samsung. When I speak of going thru hassles and hoops one look at these stunners and you'll see why.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Panman;1297916]Boricua likes classicos but with his tone of voice the women can hardly understand what he says because of all the noise up there. He had a bit of bad luck with crack w.h.o.r.e.s, one followed him all the way to the hotel until he asked the security to intervene. Another hideous thing tried to offer him a 200 peso BJ in front of New Garden. It is just his nature, he doesn't yell or get rude with hoes. I regret not been around the time he picked that up, when he went out I was already busy in the room.[/QUOTE]That haitian you had, I can hear her from the street. Glad she is still alive.

[QUOTE=Revere; 1297922]Panman thanks for the update because I was surprised. Guys go back and see some of images Boriqua has posted they are very hot and in no way reflect the taste of the image he posted. I am serious this guy has great taste so please do not judge him on this recent image he posted.

][/QUOTE]I met a hot chica from Santo Domingo in Classicos, hot, pretty, dressed to impress. Most of the time at this trip I was having stomach problems. One of these moments were inside Classicos while I was with the hot chica. I took her phone number and went to my room. In my way to the hotel the girl stopped me. I felt a little better and decided to give a try to this "sweet" chica. I called the Classicos chica just after this crazy chica left, report about her later.

[QUOTE=Panman;1297916]Boricua likes classicos but with his tone of voice the women can hardly understand what he says because of all the noise up there. He had a bit of bad luck with crack w.h.o.r.e.s, one followed him all the way to the hotel until he asked the security to intervene. Another hideous thing tried to offer him a 200 peso BJ in front of New Garden. It is just his nature, he doesn't yell or get rude with hoes.[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting, sexy woman in the photo.

So Panman and I went our way to Sosua after 5:00 pm. Panman drives so fast and so dominican but we survived. Being in that Nissan Tilda for a few hours was a more extreme experience than bungee jumping, being on a war or voting in dominican elections (some PLD voters got jailed, threatened during election days). We arrived to Santiago in 15 minutes, or it was like it looks. We got lost a few times in Santiago so we spent over an hour going north, south, east, west, online, offline. Finally a motoconcho guy helped us and. We got lost again. We decided to take the opposite direction after we saw that welcome to Santo Domingo sign so we finally found our way to Puerto Plata. People were helpful and friendly giving us directions. Thanks to the black guy with the cart that lead us to get lost at the beginning, the man with the mucus ball hanging from his nose, the drug seller from the corner, the motoconcho driver and the other hundred people that helped us to know the entire Santiago city.

Panman was tired so he asked me to give him Patron tequila shot each time we survived a dangerous street obstacle. The bottle got empty 15 minutes before arriving to Sosua. So we finally arrived around 10 pm. Quick check in at Sea Breeze, $40 per night taxes included. This hotel is very convenient for people with rental cars because it has a gated parking.

We went up to our rooms to get a shower and hit the strip. It took a couple of hours for the little air conditioner to cool the room a little. I moved my rock bed under the air conditioner unit to get the best of it. I went to take a shower and after I moved a couple of pigeon feathers and spiders out of the tub I took a nice shower.

Sosua dress code for guys is dress whatever you want except caps inside Classicos. Security there is more efficient finding hidden caps than finding guns. We headed to the Pedro Clisante strip. This time the crowd was smaller than last February Super Bowl weekend. We entered the outside bar next to Classicos and took a couple of seats. Less than a minute later a couple of girls were around us. A 36 yr. Old from Santiago sat next to me. She was wearing glasses and a nice cleavage. She looks younger than 30 but she insisted she was 36. She was good company, always smiling. Panman had five or six girls seducing him during that span of time, including a Haitian girl. He used my 10 dollars phone to store some numbers. The girl next to me told me a story about a puertorican guy she met a month ago, the guy bet her hair was artificial (extensions). If he loses he had to pay her 4, 000 pesos. He loses the bet and paid her. I did not believe her story; I infer she was indirectly giving her price for sex. Minutes later I asked how much, she told me 3, 500 pesos. I told her last February I paid no more than 1, 000 pesos. She told me no girl is going out for 1, 000 pesos but she went down from 3, 500 to 1, 500 in less than five minutes. So we walked to the hotel and had a decent sex session, good, not spectacular, it was girl friendly.

We went back to the strip and Panman was still there at the bar, we spent a few minutes there and go back to our hotel. He called one of the girls and they met in front of New Garden. A very ugly halloweenic woman was on the street offering blowjobs. The Haitian arrived and went upstairs with Panman. I was hungry and decided to go back to the strip to get some food. I interacted with a few chicas while waiting for my cheeseburger and tostones, I grabbed her tits and asses, licked a couple of nipples, the usual. This trip I had more interaction with the chicas. My experience was that there is a considerable, nut huge but notable percent of the girls with drug and or mental issues.

So my burger was ready, I decided to eat it in my room. A group of motoconcho guys saw me with the food and their reaction when they saw me was a little scary: 'hey, give me that food, I am hungry'. He jumped from the moto and I was under the impression he was going to steal my food, but he stopped and went back to his moto. Surreal scene. I entered Sea Breeze premises and heard the noises of a girl screaming. Panman was banging the haitiana and she was screaming something that sounds like this: baiser mon cul que je vais baiser votre plus tard! Baiser mon cul que je vais baiser votre plus tard! I ate my food while watching television using binoculars. I finished with my food at the same time Panman finished eating the haitiana. He was hungry for food so I went back to the strip with him. He ordered some food while he paid me a beer. A couple of mentally challenged girls went for us, and we played with them a little. I took down a little the dress of one of the girls to have a better look of her tits. I paid a beer to one of the girls. The girls were rubbing their bodies against ours, the seducing game was on. I went to the bathroom for a couple of minutes, when I came back Panman told me the girls almost had a fight. Panman finished his food and paid a 200 pesos meal to one of the girls. The other girl also wanted a meal and I said ok. 200 pesos no big deal. We went to order and the cashier told they were closed. We leave the place and the girl kept asking for 200 pesos for food. I told her they closed the place so ask your friend to share her meal with you. But she wanted her own meal, or the 200 pesos. I told her good bye but she kept following us, walking besides us on Dr. Rosen. She entered hotel premises with us and gave her cedula to security, we told him she followed us from the strip and he escorted her out. It was near 5:00 am when I decided to get offline.

Are there any hourly motels in Sosua? I'm staying in a non-friendly hotel in cabarete so that's not an option. Also, is passions the only place that has rooms?

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1298389]We decided to take the opposite direction after we saw that welcome to Santo Domingo sign so we finally found our way to Puerto Plata.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1298389]I went to take a shower and after I moved a couple of pigeon feathers and spiders out of the tub I took a nice shower.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1298389]Sosua dress code for guys is dress whatever you want except caps inside Classicos. Security there is more efficient finding hidden caps than finding guns.[/QUOTE]Funny stuff, LOL.

[QUOTE=Joe Shmoe;1298408]Are there any hourly motels in Sosua? I'm staying in a non-friendly hotel in cabarete so that's not an option. Also, is passions the only place that has rooms?[/QUOTE]The best hourly place in Sosua is Dulce Secreto. Fairly easy to find, there are several signs on the highway. Also there is the Calypso Hotel, located near the Super Super Liquor store, I have not heard of anyone using it for the last couple of years, it used to be pretty basic and I doubt that has changed. One friend uses short term rooms at Central Hotel which is located behind Bar Central (next door to Merengue Bar).

CMP has rooms on site for liasons with their in house chicas. I have not tried them but reports are that they are not up to the standard of Passions

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce;1297712]Biatch looks like a Tranny to Me. Would never touch![/QUOTE]I believe her name is Vanessa. She started talking to me when I was going to my hotel with another girl. She told me I had a good chica. When I was done, and walked my chica back to El Flow, she gave me a sob story about being hungry, having no family, asking for 500 for just a massage. Always wears a short dress and is walking up and down from El Flow to Classicos. Speaks good English.

She showed me her boobs, and told me she has no babies.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1298484]I believe her name is Vanessa. She started talking to me when I was going to my hotel with another girl. She told me I had a good chica. When I was done, and walked my chica back to El Flow, she gave me a sob story about being hungry, having no family, asking for 500 for just a massage. Always wears a short dress and is walking up and down from El Flow to Classicos. Speaks good English.

She showed me her boobs, and told me she has no babies.[/QUOTE]So come on dude, tell us what you think of Sosua so far.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1298389]A very ugly halloweenic woman was on the street offering blowjobs. The Haitian arrived and went upstairs with Panman. I was hungry and decided to go back to the strip to get some food. I interacted with a few chicas while waiting for my cheeseburger and tostones, I grabbed her tits and asses, licked a couple of nipples, the usual. This trip I had more interaction with the chicas. My experience was that there is a considerable, nut huge but notable percent of the girls with drug and or mental issues.[/QUOTE]It is great to see that someone else has a sense of humor and the "Let's have fun attitude" in Sosua! Have a blast and keep reporting!

[QUOTE=Llttf; 1298414]The best hourly place in Sosua is Dulce Secreto. Fairly easy to find, there are several signs on the highway. Also there is the Calypso Hotel, located near the Super Super Liquor store, I have not heard of anyone using it for the last couple of years, it used to be pretty basic and I doubt that has changed. One friend uses short term rooms at Central Hotel which is located behind Bar Central (next door to Merengue Bar).

CMP has rooms on site for liasons with their in house chicas. I have not tried them but reports are that they are not up to the standard of Passions[/QUOTE]All great choices, in addition another short term choice for a cabana is The Coco Hotel on Calle Alejo Martinez, neat little bar and pool area to chill before or after, and hospitable owner is cool about using the rooms.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298484],. Always wears a short dress .She showed me her boobs, and told me she has no babies.[/QUOTE]She was wearing a short black dress and told me she has no babies and showed me her boobs.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1298389]Panman was banging the haitiana and she was screaming something that sounds like this: baiser mon cul que je vais baiser votre plus tard! Baiser mon cul que je vais baiser votre plus tard! I ate my food while watching television using binoculars. I finished with my food at the same time Panman finished eating the haitiana.[/QUOTE]LOL. Now that was really some funny stuff. Kiss mine now and I will kiss yours later? LOL.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1298555]She was wearing a short black dress and told me she has no babies and showed me her boobs.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298484]I believe her name is Vanessa. she gave me a sob story about being hungry, having no family, asking for 500 for just a massage. Always wears a short dress and is walking up and down from El Flow to Classicos. She showed me her boobs, and told me she has no babies.[/QUOTE]I can see she has her routine down.

[QUOTE=Buscemi;1298549]All great choices, in addition another short term choice for a cabana is The Coco Hotel on Calle Alejo Martinez, neat little bar and pool area to chill before or after, and hospitable owner is cool about using the rooms.[/QUOTE]I was not aware of that option, what does he charge? Is it still available late at night?

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1298485]So come on dude, tell us what you think of Sosua so far.[/QUOTE]First off, thanks to the members of the board for all the info. Made my trip almost spotless. Been studying for over a year (was suppose to go last August, but was weathered out). With all the info, I actually believed myself when I would tell a chica I had been there before.

I get off the plane, get through customs, etc w / o a problem. I pay the $10, while another guy on the plane is SOL be / see he is trying to pay with change (they don't except coins). My driver from NG is waiting for me with a sign, except he's not my driver. Just another guy in the mix with a hand out for the tip. Exchange rate at the airport was 33 pesos/$1. Did not partake. Quick ride to NG. Roads / drivers were not anywhere as bad as I expected. Right before the entrance to NG, driver stops, asks if I need change at the little booth near Terra Linda. I decline, thinking it's not a good rate.

We pull up to NG. I pay the taxi the arranged $25 charge, and get out. As soon as I am out of the van, a chica is pulling on my shirt, like I've experienced in the alley in Tijuana. The only place that tops this is Las Vegas. Slot machines at the airport as soon as you get off the plane.

First impression of the hotel was it was much smaller and not as nice as I thought it would be. Pool area seemed much smaller / plainer. Check in. No request for $ or credit card. My room was just being cleaned at 4 pm, so I had to wait 5 minutes at the pool. There were a few girls working, Not more than 5 and no lookers. They saw the fresh fish that had just arrived. Room was basic, but clean and adequate. Balcony faced the pool area (new building) , and door faced the baseball field. Mini fridge, flat screen tv, and decent cable package (USA networks, ESPN, HBO, Showtime, and 2 porn channels). Probably the biggest problem of the trip was I could not get an internet signal. Never got one in my room or at the pool / restaurant the entire trip. Would have liked to been able to get online to ask you guys questions while I was at the front lines. I did not partake of the internet cafe's located around town. Any suggestions in the future where I could sit with my labtop and get a free signal?

NG was very quiet. I expected it to be crazy from what I had read. Maybe 20 other guys staying there. All well behaved and kept pretty much to themselves. When I would tell a chica where I was staying, she would always say "very nice, very quiet". Thought this place was a frat house?

Breakfast was great. The waitress was a sweetheart. Food was excellent and portions were nice. Breakfast is served till 11, but often saw guys coming in after and were still served. Breakfast was included in the cost of the room.

They keep the pool area spotless. Painting, tile work, gardening constantly being done. Every leaf was picked up by an employee. Never saw one person go in the pool.

Took a walk around town to get my bearings. Bought my H20 at the small supermarket to the left past Tera Linda. 20 pesos for a 1. 5 litre bottle. Exchanged $ at the little booth right before the store. Rate was 38/1, which I thought was decent. Guy seemed honest, and it seemed secure and it was right there. Walked down to the beach. Got a taste of the hawkers. Not as bad as I expected. This was late Sunday afternoon and the beach was crowded with mostly locals, it seemed. Only had a couple chicas say hello as I walked, and nothing special. Walked down the block with all the bars. Too early, only a couple bottom feeders out. Walked to Passions and CMP. Wish they were both closer to the action. Back to the room to cool off, hydrate, and get ready for night one at the bars.

Most of the trip, I hung out near Rumba Bar. Thought it was the best place to see the best action early. When I would go by Classiocos early in the evening, it was dead. Did not get back to the Merangue bar later in the evening, until my last night. Wish I would have found it earlier. Get a seat and watch the hotties parade past you, showing what they've got. Made Hong Kong bar in Tijuana look like a nunnery. I was sitting with a chica, talking, etc, when the manager came by and asked her to remove my hand from between her upper thighs. Thought this was classy, asking her, instead of the customer.

Did you guys know that DR chicas are very aggressive. A couple times I had girls come up and would just not leave. One girl (actually went to the hotel with her twice) became my stalker. She would appear, hang all over me, and not let go. I told her I would meet her at El Flow in 20 minutes, and walked away. She hunted me down in Merangue. Told her she was loco, and walked away. She finally got the message. She did ask me 2 different times when I was with her if I would give her my email. Guess she wanted to keep me informed of her family problems and need for $.

Too many hotties have ruined their bodies having babies. You see a girl that looks spectacular. You then find out that her boobs are saggy, she has a belly, or a ugly see section scar. The other problem is technology. Scientists spend way too much time on making bras that make tits / ass's look bigger / firmer, stomach's flatter, etc. This one girl looked like she had this nice rack. Take the bra off, and her tits nearly hit her knees. I guess if they weren't having babies, they would not be out screwing strangers for pennies to feed their babies. It appears that the girls who work regular jobs don't seem to have bodies worn out by childbirth to the extent of the working girls.

Went into Passions around 6 PM one time. Lots of chicas, and about 5 customers. Had a little cutie approach me speaking very good English. She was like a tutor at Passions, explaining how it works, menu, etc. It was a no pressure sale, great personality, looked good, and we had no problem holding a conversation. I thought she would be my first TLN (even at the high price) till I go her in the room. Her body was not bad, but not as nice as I thought. Had a little belly fat, although it was not child related. Her problem was she was not very good in bed. She needs to help the other girls with their English, and they need to help her with her sex.

Wanted to buy some V to take home with me at DR prices. Read Latinos supermarket had 100mg / 100 pesos. Nobody knew of Latinos. When I went to exchange $ at the guy at the little booth, he had a box next to the bottle of Patron he was selling. One stop shopping. Same price as Latinos. Only problem may be the expiration date was not so good. Have not tried it yet, or know how it will last.

Daytime action was poor. Beach was empty, in all ways during the week. NG girls were 5 at the most, and nothing special looking. I did not get a phone, so no girls to call from the night before. Passions starts at 1 pm, but only a couple girls early. Most arrive at 5. One day about 5, I was sitting at the pool, and a chica I was with 2 nights before shows up. Must have just got in town for the night, and was looking for me. Tells me she is trained in massage (think every girl in DR is) and starts massaging my hands / arms. She starts reaching in my shorts, and continues, including my butt hole (she tossed my salad on our previous visit, so she knew I liked it). This continued for about 1/2 hour. At one point she reached in and almost pulled it out, but was afraid of being seen. Did not want to repeat with her that early and not have a new girl, so I showed excellent restraint and sent her on her way w / o a complaint. She was a member of the ugly see section club and could not believe tits that small could be that saggy.

Last girl I was with was great at the bar. Nice to talk to, good body, fun and friendly. Back at the room, she became more of a pro. Took me in the bathroom to clean my equipment (don't mind the extra concern for cleanliness). She came out of the shower in a towel, but had her bra and panties back on. She was the only girl to bring up the topic of how much money. In the room, she requested I put the $ on the desk before we started. Wanted the room very dark. When we were done, she gets out of bed to go the bathroom, and scooped up the $. Was expecting her to ask for it when she came out and try and rip me off. Asked for 200 pesos for the motorcoach. Gave her 100 and got no complaint. She was the only girl who did not want me to walk her down, out, or back to the action. Security did call and ask if everything was ok before they gave her back her I'd. That was excellent.

Last story. Got done with a girl. Walked her back to El Flow, and am walking back on Dr Rosen to the hotel. 2 girls (possibly Hatian's) approach. One is popping out her tits, while the other was grabbing my dick. Might have been trying to get me to go to the room, or just pick my pockets. I was just wearing a t shirt and gym shorts, had nothing in my pockets or an leche.

BTW, why does David Stern have a street named after him? Does he do a lot of mongering in Sosua? Also, who's the dark skinned guy, who looks like Col. Sanders from Kentucky Fried Chicken, walking around at night in a suit, carrying a briefcase?

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298608]Probably the biggest problem of the trip was I could not get an internet signal. Never got one in my room or at the pool / restaurant the entire trip. Would have liked to been able to get online to ask you guys questions while I was at the front lines. I did not partake of the internet cafe's located around town. Any suggestions in the future where I could sit with my labtop and get a free signal?[/QUOTE]You have to ask them for the WEP (password) that will allow you to use their WiFi. If you already knew about this and tried it, then my bad. But the couple of times I stayed in the New Wing (Jacuzzi suite) I never had problems with the Wifi signal.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298608]
Too many hotties have ruined their bodies having babies. You see a girl that looks spectacular. You then find out that her boobs are saggy, she has a belly, or a ugly see section scar. The other problem is technology. Scientists spend way too much time on making bras that make tits / ass's look bigger / firmer, stomach's flatter, etc. This one girl looked like she had this nice rack. Take the bra off, and her tits nearly hit her knees. I guess if they weren't having babies, they would not be out screwing strangers for pennies to feed their babies. It appears that the girls who work regular jobs don't seem to have bodies worn out by childbirth to the extent of the working girls.
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Big problem among the working girls there. Although I'll admit I haven't run into any of those problems my last few trips. Guess I've been lucky.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298608]
Daytime action was poor. Beach was empty, in all ways during the week. NG girls were 5 at the most, and nothing special looking.
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Same thing I noticed last month. Good to hear this because I honestly thought it may have been due to bad (trip) timing on my part.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298608]
Last girl I was with was great at the bar. Nice to talk to, good body, fun and friendly. Back at the room, she became more of a pro. Took me in the bathroom to clean my equipment (don't mind the extra concern for cleanliness). She came out of the shower in a towel, but had her bra and panties back on. She was the only girl to bring up the topic of how much money. In the room, she requested I put the $ on the desk before we started. Wanted the room very dark.
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Very good chance she was trying to hide all that you mentioned earlier: Saggy titties, c-section scar, etc. Don't know why she came out of the shower with her panties back on though. But I think it would probably be a good indication that you may want to strap on two condoms, lol!

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298608]Also, who's the dark skinned guy, who looks like Col. Sanders from Kentucky Fried Chicken, walking around at night in a suit, carrying a briefcase?[/QUOTE]

LOL, that's the Magician dude. He usually hangs around the beach during the day. I watched a show he did that someone paid him for. This guy swallows fire, hammers nails into his nose and spits them out of his mouth by beating on the back of his neck, puts string up his nose and pulls it out of his mouth, etc. All of his "tools" for his shows are contained in his briefcase.

Overall good trip report for a first-timer. Thanks for reporting. I am holding out hope that a return trip during high season (December - March) may turn out to be a lot better. But I've got two other spots I'm hitting first before I even give Sosua another though.

R.I.P. Sosua: 19?? - December 2010.

They gave me the code for the internet, could not get a signal from my room or at the pool / restaurant. They told me it sometimes goes out and to keep trying. No luck.

The bra / panties girl did have a 3 year old, but her tits felt firm and did not see / feel any see section scar.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298608]First off, thanks to the members of the board for all the info. Made my trip almost spotless. Been studying for over a year (was suppose to go last August, but was weathered out). With all the info, I actually believed myself when I would tell a chica I had been there before.[/QUOTE]Good narration, clean and chronological writing. Thanks. I liked the "David Stern" bit as a nice closing touch of humor. One thing I did not get was your sense of excitement. Did it sound flat or did you have some highs. I do not mean drink wise?

The section of Sosua you were in, known as El Batey, used to be the Jewish Quarters. One can actually go and see the Jewish museum, which is around the baseball field behind New Garden hotel so all the Sterns and Steins used to live there, prior to Sosua getting international acclaim! LOL.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1298389]So Panman and I went our way to Sosua after 5:00 pm. Panman drives so fast and so dominican but we survived.[/QUOTE]Lovely account. Had been laughing aloud reading. Baiser mon cul! There was a guy awhile ago who wanted the women to do him and had written detailed reports!

One quick question, where did you go for hamburger with tostones? It would be useful in case I feel like a hamburger and while waiting can feel other stuff as well.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298608]Wanted to buy some V to take home with me at DR prices. Read Latinos supermarket had 100mg / 100 pesos. Nobody knew of Latinos. When I went to exchange $ at the guy at the little booth, he had a box next to the bottle of Patron he was selling. One stop shopping. Same price as Latinos. Only problem may be the expiration date was not so good. Have not tried it yet, or know how it will last.[/QUOTE]Latino Minimarket is close to the intersection of Calle Ayuntamiento and Alejandro Martinez. About 7 or 8 minutes walk from New Garden Hotel. 1 minute by motoconcho.

Any motoconcho driver would know where it is. Their generic viagra is 4 tablets of 100mgs for 100 pesos. The same brand is double the price or more in pharmacies.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298608]Got done with a girl. Walked her back to El Flow, and am walking back on Dr Rosen to the hotel. 2 girls (possibly Hatian's) approach. One is popping out her tits, while the other was grabbing my dick. Might have been trying to get me to go to the room, or just pick my pockets. I was just wearing a t shirt and gym shorts, had nothing in my pockets or an leche.[/QUOTE]Way to stay alert dude. But I guess with experience in Tijuana it is probably second nature by now.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1298656]Latino Minimarket is close to the intersection of Calle Ayuntamiento and Alejandro Martinez. About 7 or 8 minutes walk from New Garden Hotel. 1 minute by motoconcho.

Any motoconcho driver would know where it is. Their generic viagra is 4 tablets of 100mgs for 100 pesos. The same brand is double the price or more in pharmacies.[/QUOTE]Frannie,

Are you saying it was 100 pesos for the entire pack of 4? 25 pesos each? WOW! I thought 100/100mg was a good deal. Not a big motoconcho guy. If I walked out of New Gardan, how would I walk there? Don't mind the walking. Good way to work off the Presidente's.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298608]Probably the biggest problem of the trip was I could not get an internet signal. Never got one in my room or at the pool / restaurant the entire trip. Would have liked to been able to get online to ask you guys questions while I was at the front lines. I did not partake of the internet cafe's located around town. Any suggestions in the future where I could sit with my labtop and get a free signal?[/QUOTE]If you don't want to use an Internet cafe, most of the the restaurants and bars have wi-fi. It U-turn on your wi-fi enabled device (phone, tablet, netbook, laptop) and walk along the street you will see which places are giving off a signal. You may have to ask for the key when you sit down, but some are unlocked.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1298657]Way to stay alert dude. But I guess with experience in Tijuana it is probably second nature by now.[/QUOTE]Can't say it was being alert, just good luck. Threw on a t shirt, shorts, and slides to walk her out. She asked me to walk her back to the bars, due to the Politor. Had the short conversation with the "Vanessa" chick. Started walking back on Dr Rosen, and they attacked. If I did have $ in my pockets, I might have gotten ripped off. Initially, just thought I was being approached by a couple bottom feeders for sex. Looking back, they might have been trying to rip me off.

Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1298660]If you don't want to use an Internet cafe, most of the the restaurants and bars have wi-fi. It U-turn on your wi-fi enabled device (phone, tablet, netbook, laptop) and walk along the street you will see which places are giving off a signal. You may have to ask for the key when you sit down, but some are unlocked.[/QUOTE]I was picking up a signal from the restaurant next to NG. It was protected, so I could not access it w / o going there. Would have liked to sit in my room, pool, breakfast and hit the net whenever I liked, w / o having to pay each time, or go to a specific restaurant to eat, just to get online, and ask you guys a question.

I actually don't go to a certain hotel in SXM be / see you can't get a signal in your room. The common area where the signal is strong, is open air, and the bugs eat you alive.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1298658]Frannie,

Are you saying it was 100 pesos for the entire pack of 4? 25 pesos each? WOW! I thought 100/100mg was a good deal. Not a big motoconcho guy. If I walked out of New Gardan, how would I walk there? Don't mind the walking. Good way to work off the Presidente's.[/QUOTE]Walk out of New Garden, turn to your right, walk to the crossroads, turn to the right and continue walking past Seabreeze Hotel, Casa Marina Hotel and the Bologna restaurant and Latino Minimarket is on the right. It is not far.

Yes. 100 pesos for 4 tablets as of last week. I think you can buy a box of 96 tablets for about 1000 pesos ($25) if you want the discount.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1298663]I was picking up a signal from the restaurant next to NG. It was protected, so I could not access it w / o going there. Would have liked to sit in my room, pool, breakfast and hit the net whenever I liked, w / o having to pay each time, or go to a specific restaurant to eat, just to get online, and ask you guys a question.

I actually don't go to a certain hotel in SXM be / see you can't get a signal in your room. The common area where the signal is strong, is open air, and the bugs eat you alive.[/QUOTE]Go to the restaurant next door. Get one drink. Ask for the code. Use it back in your hotel room.

There is a pizza place across the street from Classico's. If you are standing with your back to the steps, it's across the street to your left. I was standing there, trying to lose my stalker, and the aroma smelled really good. How's the pie?

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298668]There is a pizza place across the street from Classico's. If you are standing with your back to the steps, it's across the street to your left. I was standing there, trying to lose my stalker, and the aroma smelled really good. How's the pie?[/QUOTE]Pretty good from what I remember. It is run by some Italian people, not Domino's (thank god).

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1298638]Good narration, clean and chronological writing. Thanks. I liked the "David Stern" bit as a nice closing touch of humor. One thing I did not get was your sense of excitement. Did it sound flat or did you have some highs. I do not mean drink wise?

The section of Sosua you were in, known as El Batey, used to be the Jewish Quarters. One can actually go and see the Jewish museum, which is around the baseball field behind New Garden hotel so all the Sterns and Steins used to live there, prior to Sosua getting international acclaim! LOL.[/QUOTE]I would rate my trip as a success. First time in a new location is always a learning experience. Had a lot of anxiety, prior, due to being limited in the language, but as everyone kept saying, you don't have to speak a lick of Spanish in Sosua and still have a good time. Employees at the hotel spoke Engllish. The chicas know why you are there. Many stores, bars, restaurants employ people who speak English. With all that said, the more Spanish you know, the more you can enjoy your experience.

While waiting for my taxi to go to the airport, the Rosetta Stone salesman, gave me his sales pitch. We started talking, and he had worked in the states, where I was from, picking apples for $100 / day. The more Spanish you know, allows you to make better choices with everything you do, including the chicas.

Many years ago, I was in Israel, and was going from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem where my hotel was by myself on Friday morning. The clock was ticking for me to get to my hotel, be / see Jerusalem pretty much shuts down early afternoon for the sabbath. It was my first time out of the country, and my first time in Israel traveling by myself. One of the longest days of my life. Made it back by the skin of my teeth. Gave me a little phobia about traveling to non English speaking countries by myself. One of the reasons I like SXM and CUR. No major language barriers and the except US$.

Although I had decent experiences with my chicas, I wish I had done better. Did not have any duds, but no true stunners. Wish I had found Merangue Bar earlier in my trip. Daytime activity was slow. Didn't get into the beach as much as expected. Wish it was more lively. BTW, what should a lounge chair cost to rent for the day? Was sitting on one for about a 1/2 hour when the guy from the restaurant came by and said it was 200 penos. Had my bag on the chair to my right. Seemed a little steep, especially for the slow season. Was I charged for 2 chairs? Should I have negotiated? Are some more expensive than others? He said it included the umbrella. Think it was Tony's restaurant. Some chairs were under a tree, and did not need an umbrella. Were they cheaper?

Once you go with a girl, they seem to latch on with you. What's the best way to handle that, w / o causing a scene, or eliminating the possibility of a future endeavor? I know, she will go with you again (show me the money) , but worry more about the quality of the experience. The one girl I did do twice, the second time was a better experience.

Forgot to mention, since it was not really monger related. I had a 4 hour layover in Miami on my way home. After immigration, customs, TSA security, a burger, and catching up on the internet, it was a little less than 1/2 before boarding. I go to my gate, find a seat. There's a guy on his phone sitting right across from me. I hear him say "Tell him it's sports agent Drew Rosenhaus". When I first heard it, I thought the guy was busting someone's balls on the phone. Then, I realized, the voice sounded familiar. I looked up, and it was him. He was waiting to get on my plane. He's a little guy with a cocky attitude, just like you see on TV. Was hoping we would sit next to each other on the flight, become friends, and he would offer me a great job. That all came to an end when he sat in first class, and I was in coach."Next question"!

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298683]I would rate my trip as a success. First time in a new location is always a learning experience. Had a lot of anxiety, prior, due to being limited in the language, but as everyone kept saying, you don't have to speak a lick of Spanish in Sosua and still have a good time. Employees at the hotel spoke Engllish. The chicas know why you are there. Many stores, bars, restaurants employ people who speak English. With all that said, the more Spanish you know, the more you can enjoy your experience.[/QUOTE]Nice reporting AT!

Sounds like you had a decent trip. I understand what you are talking about knowing the language, and that's why I will enter my third semester in the fall. But, I still seem to have fun there with my shitty Spanish skills, but then again, I don't indulge in lengthy conversations either.

I always stay in the new wing of the NG and always stream in internet music and rarely lost connection; not sure what happened in your case. As far as the NG girls, I will agree, not many lookers, but some are extremely talented in the rack!

As far as beach action, most will be on the weekends and they never really seem to be on the beach, but patrol through the beach bars / restaurants. This is why Herman's place is perfect. But on the beach, it takes patience. Sit, drink, eat, and fish from your table. Or just point and Herman will call them over, hell, he knows every one of them.

Thanks again for reporting back!

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1298683]I would rate my trip as a success. First time in a new location is always a learning experience. Had a lot of anxiety, prior, due to being limited in the language, but as everyone kept saying, you don't have to speak a lick of Spanish in Sosua and still have a good time. Employees at the hotel spoke Engllish. The chicas know why you are there. Many stores, bars, restaurants employ people who speak English. With all that said, the more Spanish you know, the more you can enjoy your experience.

Many years ago, I was in Israel, and was going from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem where my hotel was by myself on Friday morning. The clock was ticking for me to get to my hotel, be / see Jerusalem pretty much shuts down early afternoon for the sabbath. It was my first time out of the country, and my first time in Israel traveling by myself. One of the longest days of my life. Made it back by the skin of my teeth. Gave me a little phobia about traveling to non English speaking countries by myself. One of the reasons I like SXM and CUR. No major language barriers and the except US$.

Once you go with a girl, they seem to latch on with you. What's the best way to handle that, w / o causing a scene, or eliminating the possibility of a future endeavor? I know, she will go with you again (show me the money) , but worry more about the quality of the experience. The one girl I did do twice, the second time was a better experience.[/QUOTE]I understand and agree with you point on language. Last year, in July, was my first trip to the DR, and to Sosua. I had no Spanish speaking experience prior to that and I recall going to the bank outside the airport that Frannie was kind to take me to, I had an awkward moment. Not knowing how to handle the language. Personally, and this has been true for me in Thailand and Indonesia, if women in bars speak English too well, I try to slide away. For me it is a red flag. In Germany -whether Reeparbahn in Hamburg or FKK clubs in FRA, (or Dubai for that matter) on the other hand, there are many East Europeans (and Russians) who have no choice but to speak English (barring of course, the Czechs and few others with long Germanic history) so it is different. I am surprised to know that in Curacao and St. Maarten, you can get by with English but then the Dutch all speak 4-5 languages.

Israel is one trip I would like to do. But for other reasons and walk around the old city. That is one of my dreams and of course eat the freshest tahni and falafel.

Yes, the problem of having a girl latch on is prevalent (after all we are meal tickets). For the customer, if the experience has been positive, it might be a good thing but if it is not, shaking off tails can be a challenge. I on one occasion had a girl of the first night approach me the second night and I paid for a drink and apologized saying I want to look around. In another case, I was not so lucky. A serious pro who fights others against encroachment into what she considers her territory (the customer) and that was a good lesson for me. Fortunately, I know both the Italian Managers of the bar below and the dance hall above and so I can ask for their help but I also learned. I have moved away from Sosua and I would not allow someone to get so close that she can think I am her private property. Easier to speak of course.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1298695]Nice reporting AT!

Sounds like you had a decent trip. I understand what you are talking about knowing the language, and that's why I will enter my third semester in the fall. But, I still seem to have fun there with my shitty Spanish skills, but then again, I don't indulge in lengthy conversations either.

I always stay in the new wing of the NG and always stream in internet music and rarely lost connection; not sure what happened in your case. As far as the NG girls, I will agree, not many lookers, but some are extremely talented in the rack!

As far as beach action, most will be on the weekends and they never really seem to be on the beach, but patrol through the beach bars / restaurants. This is why Herman's place is perfect. But on the beach, it takes patience. Sit, drink, eat, and fish from your table. Or just point and Herman will call them over, hell, he knows every one of them.

Thanks again for reporting back![/QUOTE]My first walk through the bars / restaurants at the beach, I had a couple "holas". I had not been there an hour, and was still feeling things out. No way was I going to jump at the first girl that approached me, definitely not before hitting the bars that night. I know not to go after the first chica you see. Getting #'s for future events (afternoons) could be a good thing. Looking at the pics, you get a better idea at the product you are buying. Less anti gravity mechanism in a bikini top than a push up bra under a top. More stomach's visible, and no heels or Brazilian jeans enhancing their butts.

Another thing is comparing a girl who is dressed fairly simply to a girl who is dolled up. I always try to tell myself, you are not buying the outfit, only what is in it. The other thing is the dolled up girls, although they are more appealing (at least to me) seem like they would be more likely a pro and give lesser service. Same with the more aggressive girl to the more shy, laid back one.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1298696]I understand and agree with you point on language. Last year, in July, was my first trip to the DR, and to Sosua. I had no Spanish speaking experience prior to that and I recall going to the bank outside the airport that Frannie was kind to take me to, I had an awkward moment. Not knowing how to handle the language. Personally, and this has been true for me in Thailand and Indonesia, if women in bars speak English too well, I try to slide away. For me it is a red flag. In Germany.whether Reeparbahn in Hamburg or FKK clubs in FRA, (or Dubai for that matter) on the other hand, there are many East Europeans (and Russians) who have no choice but to speak English (barring of course, the Czechs and few others with long Germanic history) so it is different. I am surprised to know that in Curacao and St. Maarten, you can get by with English but then the Dutch all speak 4-5 languages.

Israel is one trip I would like to do. But for other reasons and walk around the old city. That is one of my dreams and of course eat the freshest tahni and falafel.

Yes, the problem of having a girl latch on is prevalent (after all we are meal tickets). For the customer, if the experience has been positive, it might be a good thing but if it is not, shaking off tails can be a challenge. I on one occasion had a girl of the first night approach me the second night and I paid for a drink and apologized saying I want to look around. In another case, I was not so lucky. A serious pro who fights others against encroachment into what she considers her territory (the customer) and that was a good lesson for me. Fortunately, I know both the Italian Managers of the bar below and the dance hall above and so I can ask for their help but I also learned. I have moved away from Sosua and I would not allow someone to get so close that she can think I am her private property. Easier to speak of course.[/QUOTE]I've always heard to stay away from the girls who speak English. The more they speak, the farther away you should stay. Not sure how this occurs though. Most girls who I spoke to who could speak English said they learned in school. You would think the more educated one's would be less hard core. English has to be a positive skill to them being successful. They can converse with more guys and therefore open up more opportunity. How can education = poor service?

In SXM and CUR, the locals speak 3 different languages (one being English). In the chica bars, the girls are mostly Colombian and Dominican, and therefore speak mostly Spanish, with the same sides of English you see in Sosua.

I can understand Sosua chicas being aggressive. To grow up in this culture and survive, I guess you have to be. Learned this first trip to Israel. When some goes to walk through a door, they don't let you go first. They want to make sure they get in. When it comes to the girls working the streets / bars, count the girls, and count the guys. Since not every guy goes with a girl every night, the it's even worse. What percentage of girls don't get a guy each night? Plenty of hotties probably go home with a trick.

BTW, nothing like a good falaffel load with chips (french fries).

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1298729]I've always heard to stay away from the girls who speak English. The more they speak, the farther away you should stay. Not sure how this occurs though. Most girls who I spoke to who could speak English said they learned in school. You would think the more educated one's would be less hard core. English has to be a positive skill to them being successful. They can converse with more guys and therefore open up more opportunity. How can education = poor service?

In SXM and CUR, the locals speak 3 different languages (one being English). In the chica bars, the girls are mostly Colombian and Dominican, and therefore speak mostly Spanish, with the same sides of English you see in Sosua.

I can understand Sosua chicas being aggressive. To grow up in this culture and survive, I guess you have to be. Learned this first trip to Israel. When some goes to walk through a door, they don't let you go first. They want to make sure they get in. When it comes to the girls working the streets / bars, count the girls, and count the guys. Since not every guy goes with a girl every night, the it's even worse. What percentage of girls don't get a guy each night? Plenty of hotties probably go home with a trick.

BTW, nothing like a good falaffel load with chips (french fries).[/QUOTE]The reason some people believe in staying away from girls that speak english is because some of the hardest pros learned their english by being with a gazillion gringos. On the other hand there are the girls that learned their english by going to school but those are usually the semi-pros so you need to examine a girl's other attributes to determine where the girl learned her english because the ones that learned it while lying on their backs will lie to you and say they went to school to learn english.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1298670]Pretty good from what I remember. It is run by some Italian people, not Domino's (thank god).[/QUOTE]The pizza place across the street from New Garden and down a little towards Terra Linda has awesome pizza, can't remember the name though.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1298663]I was picking up a signal from the restaurant next to NG. It was protected, so I could not access it w / o going there. Would have liked to sit in my room, pool, breakfast and hit the net whenever I liked, w / o having to pay each time, or go to a specific restaurant to eat, just to get online, and ask you guys a question.

I actually don't go to a certain hotel in SXM be / see you can't get a signal in your room. The common area where the signal is strong, is open air, and the bugs eat you alive.[/QUOTE]The wi-fi at New Garden is usually very strong but I remember a few trips ago I was having trouble with it and I asked Lorenzo if there was a problem and he wasn't aware of it. He ran around like a crazy man for a few hours and fixed whatever the problem was. Next time if you have a problem and the staff doesn't rectify the problem speak with Lorenzo directly.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1298741]The wi-fi at New Garden is usually very strong but I remember a few trips ago I was having trouble with it and I asked Lorenzo if there was a problem and he wasn't aware of it. He ran around like a crazy man for a few hours and fixed whatever the problem was. Next time if you have a problem and the staff doesn't rectify the problem speak with Lorenzo directly.[/QUOTE]The aroma coming out of the place across from Classico's was very enticing. Almost made me forget about the chicas.

Saw another hotel guest a couple days later bring his lap top the the front desk asking for help. He was there a while. Don't know if he had success. I tried again, later that day w / o any luck.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1298640]One quick question, where did you go for hamburger with tostones? It would be useful in case I feel like a hamburger and while waiting can feel other stuff as well.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]It is the place in front of the putas bars that have a grill with chicken in front of the restaurant / bar, they also have a menu besides the ready to eat grilled meat.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298608]Too many hotties have ruined their bodies having babies. You see a girl that looks spectacular. You then find out that her boobs are saggy, she has a belly, or a ugly see section scar. The other problem is technology. Scientists spend way too much time on making bras that make tits / ass's look bigger / firmer, stomach's flatter, etc. This one girl looked like she had this nice rack. Take the bra off, and her tits nearly hit her knees. I guess if they weren't having babies, they would not be out screwing strangers for pennies to feed their babies. It appears that the girls who work regular jobs don't seem to have bodies worn out by childbirth to the extent of the working girls.[/QUOTE]Wow, you practically wrote letter by letter one of the paragraphs of one of the reports I still plan to write. I totally agree with you.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298683]I would rate my trip as a success. First time in a new location is always a learning experience. Had a lot of anxiety, prior, due to being limited in the language, but as everyone kept saying, you don't have to speak a lick of Spanish in Sosua and still have a good time. Employees at the hotel spoke Engllish. The chicas know why you are there. Many stores, bars, restaurants employ people who speak English. With all that said, the more Spanish you know, the more you can enjoy your experience.[/QUOTE]Most of the chicas I talked with speak English to me. I am a latino and I think I look like a latino but they kept saying hi in English. A typical conversation with a girl was similar to this:

Girl: Hello how are you?

BO: Fine, thanks. What's your name (I talked to them on English because they approached me on English).

Girl: My name is Yulissa / Maria / Ana.

BO: Nice to meet you. Were are you from?

Girl: Santiago and you?

BO: New York.

Girl: Oh New york, nice.

BO: I have read that Santiago have beautiful beaches and is the home of the free and the land of the brave.

Girl: Sorry don't understand. (at this point I noticed most of them only know a few basic English sentences)

BO: Don; t worry I just want to insert a jumbo bottle inside you anal hole.

Girl: what?

BO: que te quiero meter una botella de Presidente jumbo por el culo!

Girl: y tu habla espanol tiguerazo? Porque tu me habla en ingles? (so you speak Spanish tiguerazo, why do you speak English to me?)

BO: you did it first.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298608]Too many hotties have ruined their bodies having babies.[/QUOTE]This issue transcends Sosua and is a general issue in the DR. I can deal with the motoconcho scars, but it is nice to see a flat stomach with smooth skin once in a blue. IMO, many of the girls don't work on keeping their bodies tight, along with the fact that they drink beer like its water.

Here is an example of a former Sosua puta that lives in New Jersey now and has multiple kids. The difference with her is that she has always taken care of her body, even back in the day when she was at Pasions.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1298780]Man you are funny. Santiago with beautiful beaches and land of the free. Hahaha! Seriously, you actually told a random girl about "meter la botella en sabes donde" and she did not hit you with the bottle on the head? You are quite a discovery, Boricua babe![/QUOTE]For some reason they always laugh, maybe it is the way I say things. Sometimes I add: "sorry I do not intend to insert a Presidente jumbo into your ass because I prefer to insert a light jumbo Presidente instead."

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline; 1298777]Most of the chicas I talked with speak English to me. I am a latino and I think I look like a latino but they kept saying hi in English. A typical conversation with a girl was similar to this:

Girl: Hello how are you?

BO: Fine, thanks. What's your name (I talked to them on English because they approached me on English).

Girl: My name is Yulissa / Maria / Ana.

BO: Nice to meet you. Were are you from?[/QUOTE]Wow, that is something new! I don't look in the least bit Hispanic, but no chica has ever tried to have a conversation with me in English, except for saying something like: "Come-a here, baybee." Obviously a lot of them are going to night school to improve their communication skills.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1298789]Wow, that is something new! I don't look in the least bit Hispanic, but no chica has ever tried to have a conversation with me in English, except for saying something like: "Come-a here, baybee." Obviously a lot of them are going to night school to improve their communication skills.[/QUOTE]Huh. Perhaps there is a strategy behind? Speak in English to the Latino looking and in Spanish to the Gringo looking. To perhaps have them cower under the incomprehensible verbal brickbats and agree to a deal quickly?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1298739]The pizza place across the street from New Garden and down a little towards Terra Linda has awesome pizza, can't remember the name though.[/QUOTE]The place is Di Colores and has excellent pasta dishes as well!

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1298743]The aroma coming out of the place across from Classico's was very enticing. Almost made me forget about the chicas.

Saw another hotel guest a couple days later bring his lap top the the front desk asking for help. He was there a while. Don't know if he had success. I tried again, later that day w / o any luck.[/QUOTE]The hotel staff are clueless when it comes to technical problems such as the wi-fi issue. Lorenzo usually handles these things and he is also the owner of the hotel, he would have resolved the issue I am sure.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1298949]The hotel staff are clueless when it comes to technical problems such as the wi-fi issue. Lorenzo usually handles these things and he is also the owner of the hotel, he would have resolved the issue I am sure.[/QUOTE]Wifi issues at the New Garden sounds like another issue after Wilfred left as manager. My Sosua BF informs me Lorenzo is trying to sell the New Garden.

There was some discussion floating around about pay for play, so I'll give my $.02.

I wish to discuss a philosophy of sorts and have the major players chime in.

I've been thinking in general about maximizing your return on an investment. We have many who frown at the thought of paying $100 US for a tln in the DR. Sosua specifically. When I sit and wrap my mind around the concept, it seems absurd to have issue with those that easily pay that amount.

For the veteran mongers who visit frequently as well as the permanent transplants, I feel I will get the most resistance. All I ask is that you hear me out. I've been really thinking about this shit.

I have seen more tits in the past two weeks than I have in my entire life. No, this is not the first time that I have seen naked tits exposed in public. However, I have never seen soo many tits on a regular basis. So much so that after awhile I become desensitized by the display.

I know I talked on this somewhat before, but now I really understand how mongers reach the point that they become somewhat desensitized to the beauty and allure of the DR chicas. Your appreciation is not the same as the first timer or the infrequent visitor.

I've seen some unbelievable tits and after sometime it did not cause excitement. Actually, it was more like a yawn. If you just took one pair of those tits and put them naked on display in a restrictive environment, it would create a frenzy.

So, I've seen some fly as chicas in the DR. I feel I have been fortunate to experience such magnificence and be able to still keep my cool. I think the abundance of options help me play it cool. However, I feel if you take a "7" from the DR and drop them in a hot club in any of the major US scenes, guys would be all over them. And spending all kinds of money.

I was chillin' the other day and replayed a previous night. I thought about how easily I would keep the drinks flowing if I felt I had a decent connection and solid chance of hooking up that night with the equivalent of a DR "7" here. I'm sure if the drinks investment surpassed a $100 US, that I wouldn't be concerned at all. It would be well worth it. I won't even compare my home residence because on a given night out to have that opportunity to be with a sexy 18-25 year old is damn near impossible for a one night stand.

Where am I going with this? Simply have some appreciation for your position. I have had some great GFE experiences in the DR. It is what keeps me coming back. I love hanging out and getting blitzed waiting for that one special connection and then treating it like a fantasy that I just macked her down and now on the way to the spot.

I think if more mongers pursued the GFE and at least limited the sport fuck that we could possibly influence a change to the scene. I hold firm to my notion that there is at least a few chicas who's mission is for tln and don't want multiple partners within the same day or hours.

I'm not advocating going out there and falling in love. Play the game, treat them right before and after, and let her down easy when you want to leave it alone. Sometimes we need to ask ourselves how they become soo jaded over time.

For those of you who are not in the know, I'll share my GFE program and I don't care if you copy. I endorse it.

1. Before coming out for the night, wash your ass and make yourself look presentable. I'm not saying you need designer gear, but pick up an iron every once in awhile and burn those tacky Hawaiian shirts. This ain't Hawaii! Would you choose a smelly, rag tag chica? The premium chicas have the luxury to choose, so clean up after being out and about all day.

2. Don't go straight to Classico's. I warm up over a few drinks first at Rumba. I must admit this can be a bit tricky and requires a lot of resolve. On my last two trips, I broke down for a couple of sport fucks. They were well worth it. I couldn't refuse. Only one time I had enough power to reject this one hot chica, but that was only because I just returned from a sport fuck! LOL.

3. Once I'm done with Rumba, I head over to Merengue Bar. I never go straight to Classico's. It is very enjoyable to sit around and flirt with the chicas and occasionally chat with a gringo. In addition, I think you establish your program with the chicas. Trust me. They are watching you! It's funny how you start rejecting advances and then it turns into some type of puta competition to see who breaks you down. Some of these chicas stroll up really confident only to find that I don't fall for that shit. I need time to scope and analyze the scene before I become interested. I'm on a mission!

3. I think sitting in Merengue Bar helps settle me down as well as identify a few gems that I want to watch closely for that night before heading up to Classico's. If I see a chica leave the area for an extended time and reappear later, she is crossed off my list. More than likely, she left for a quick fuck.

4. I'm still in chill mode once I hit Classico's. Chill mode doesn't necessarily mean I'm holding up a wall because if the music moves me, I'm going to dance. You have to be careful with this as well because a chica will instantly dance with you trying to close the deal. I don't dance too long with one chica. I spin off her and dance with someone else.

5. Some dog Classico's, but I have had my best GFE's from this place. Around 1:30 am or so, I have processed enough data. It is time to shit or get off the pot. I start making serious eye contact with my favorites. First, I read their body language and how they respond to my attention. If I feel a good vibe as well as feel she is focused only on me, then I move in for some convo. If I feel she is tossing me fake smiles while scouting the room, I cancel her from the list.

6. The convo / interview is the final frontier and most important step. If she tries to get me to leave asap, she is done. If she asks for a drink, she is done. If she mentions money, she is done. If she gives a hardcore vibe or doesn't seem to have a nice personality, she is done.

7. If she is still around, I offer her a drink. Then I begin to show her special attention. My eyes stop roaming! I'll hug her, nuzzle her neck, and maybe even squeeze her ass. At this point, I'm showing her that I'm really invested and I need to see her genuinely warm up to me.

8. It helps when chicas pass and give me dirty looks. They know they lost this one. I think it helps my chosen chica feel special. Or she could be happy that she is the one getting the pesos! LOL.

Nothing is perfect or fail proof, but I like to increase my chances of GFE (with a hot chica) as much as possible. I do believe there are at least semi-pros who visit simply to make a few bucks and are not concerned with maximizing their earnings. They are content with a certain amount. This is my target.

Not one of my GFE's ever asked for money or told me an amount during the TLN and I don't ask. I trust my research. I give a good reward for a great performance. Some people like to know upfront, but negotiating kills the fantasy for me. It might not be an advisable strategy for some, but it works for me.

Again, you are being watched. Don't play yourself. Don't be the loud, obnoxious, drunken sailor pumped on ego and pretending your life to be larger than what it is. Those sharks will eat you alive. Also, I have went to my hotel alone (rarely) here and there. Sometimes I'm tired from many days of fucking or I broke down earlier for a sport fuck. I don't think I have ever went back solo because I couldn't find a chica that interest me. There is always After One! He, he *On a serious note, if you are strolling After One, your chances of a GFE drastically decreases!

I post this hoping that a newbie reads and absorbs the info. We have different agendas, but if you are looking for a GFE maybe my info will help. I am very thankful for the guys that schooled me from day one! *

And no Gogo, I refuse to hold your nuts again. People might start talking! LMAO! You already know the regard I hold for you.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1298978]I've been thinking in general about maximizing your return on an investment. We have many who frown at the thought of paying $100 US for a tln in the DR. Sosua specifically. When I sit and wrap my mind around the concept, it seems absurd to have issue with those that easily pay that amount.

For the veteran mongers who visit frequently as well as the permanent transplants, I feel I will get the most resistance. All I ask is that you hear me out. I've been really thinking about this shit.[/QUOTE]I hear you. My take is this: The girls should get whatever the market is willing to pay, and some guys are willing to pay $100. I have gotten 18 to 25 in the barrio where I used to live for $12 to $20, so I'm certainly not going to give a girl in the DR, let alone working in Sousu, $100. You have to be in control and willing to let the deal walk. It's no difference from buying a car in that respect without the emotional attachment.

You can get the TLN GFE meeting regular girls in Puerto Plata and Santo Domingo. Speak Spanish and take the girl on a real date, don't go for the panties on the first encounter, and you will have the TLN GFE for nothing. If you factor the date expenses, you still have spent less than $40. Think about it.

This is only my take.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1298975]Wifi issues at the New Garden sounds like another issue after Wilfred left as manager. My Sosua BF informs me Lorenzo is trying to sell the New Garden.[/QUOTE]Lorenzo has had The New Garden passively for sale since he completed the new wing 3-4 years ago. He wants a pretty hefty sum, probably worth it with the right manager and marketing.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1298978]So, I've seen some fly as chicas in the DR. I feel I have been fortunate to experience such magnificence and be able to still keep my cool. I think the abundance of options help me play it cool. However, I feel if you take a "7" from the DR and drop them in a hot club in any of the major US scenes, guys would be all over them. And spending all kinds of money.

I was chillin' the other day and replayed a previous night. I thought about how easily I would keep the drinks flowing if I felt I had a decent connection and solid chance of hooking up that night with the equivalent of a DR "7" here. I'm sure if the drinks investment surpassed a $100 US, that I wouldn't be concerned at all. It would be well worth it. I won't even compare my home residence because on a given night out to have that opportunity to be with a sexy 18-25 year old is damn near impossible for a one night stand.[/QUOTE]Of course you would. A lot of the girls that guys on this board turn their noses up at, they would jump all over if they were available neighbors in the US. If you are a guy of, say, 50, how many girls of 25 and under would you really turn down for casual sex? Probably only the monsters who could appear on the Jerry Springer Show.

In the DR you can pay what you want for sex, as it has little scarcity value. As long as you are prepared to walk if they turn you down. There is always another day, another chica. I usually pay $1000 to $1200 pesos, but I could certainly get laid for less if I wanted to bargain hard. It is just that I have standards and don't want to look cheap.

I do find it strange that guys are willing to spend a lot of money on drinks, but get stingy over the girls. Then again I very rarely spend money on alcoholic drinks, so it doesn't matter if I overspend on chicas.

Anyway, if you come on a vacation for a few days and you have a certain budget, you can decide for yourself how you want to spend the money. If you want to spend most of it on drink, more power to you. But just remember you can get drink anywhere in the world, so it has no scarcity value.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1299109]Robert is your BFF so what to you call him?[/QUOTE]OK, bf = "best friend", I get it now, thanks. In the UK "bf" means boyfriend.

Alas, I long for those days of yore when members would post about banging Sosua pussy. Remember those days? Perhaps a few pics of Sosua box to maybe help us all recollect those days is in order. Would anybody like to add a few pics Sosua of their own rather than talking about wine and the Dead Sea on the sosua thread?

[QUOTE=Geolopes;1299394]Alas, I long for those days of yore when members would post about banging Sosua pussy. Remember those days? Perhaps a few pics of Sosua box to maybe help us all recollect those days is in order. Would anybody like to add a few pics Sosua of their own rather than talking about wine and the Dead Sea on the sosua thread?[/QUOTE]1st 4 pics are not in Sosua but at BB's. Last pic of T-shirt is At Passions.

[blue]Greetings Everyone,

I recently cleaned up this thread by deleting a number of off-topic and otherwise pointless posts, as well as a number responses made by other forum members to these deleted posts.

This cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.

The purpose of this thread is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex in [u]Sosua, DR[/u].

Let's get back to the subject.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

First week after college graduation, first week living in a new city and my first day on my new job and my answer to the first question being asked of me was no; no I do not have a passport. My boss had me in his office to both congratulate and welcome me with my first work assignment. It was to be a 4 week stint in Tel Aviv and leaving the next week. I head off to O'Hare just a little over a week later. The "been there and done that" facade I was trying to project was being cracked from underneath by the "haven't been anywhere and haven't done anything" truth that was just beneath it. In the ticketing line I met up with my Chinese co-worker, Indian co-worker, and American co-worker who were to be mentoring me and training me on this trip. My first time flying to another country, my first time flying American Airlines. They upgraded me so it was my first time flying first class. The resulting upgrade made it my first time getting drunk on a plane. Not a good feeling whatsoever but in homage I just had to take a few rounds to toast the series of [i]firsts[/i] That just occurred, a victory lap of sorts; though in looking back I would have held back on a few of those rounds due to the fact that the [i]firsts[/i] Weren't done with me yet. A few more were to come over the next 8 weeks with each one trying to out-first the previous.

Let me explain.

The line at Immigration was as long as it was hot outside. The mossad-esque interrogation that each and every passenger received probably was not helping. Having no idea what a landing card was I had failed to fill one out on the plane which surely didn't help but the taxi dropped us off at the Hilton about 2 hours later. The room was nice, luxurious in fact given that I was working nights as a security guard at the campus library and living with 5. 5 other guys in a campus apartment just 10 days previous. There was a bottle of red wine placed next to bed complementary of the hotel staff to complete the awe factor. That red wine would become a key factor later in my trip, trust me. This was my first experience as a newbie in the international business travel game. My first clue that I was to become a newbie in the international P4P game came in my elevator ride down. I boarded the elevator to meet my co-workers downstairs. A Russian woman already in the elevator hit the main lobby button for me as I entered and asked my room number.

[i][b]Russian Hotel Worker: [/b][/i] What is your room number sir?

[i][b]Drai: [/b][/i] 8xx.

[i][b]Russian Hotel Worker: [/b][/i] Well how about we go and I give you a blowjob in room 8xx.

[i][b]Drai: [/b][/i] Huh? (eyes and mouth agape)

[i][b]Russian working girl: [/b][/i] 150 shekels. I swallow everything.

[i][b]Drai: [/b][/i] Everything?

[i][b]Desperate Russian working girl: [/b][/i] Ok. 100 shekels.

[i][b]Drai: [/b][/i] Shekels?

The elevators opened on the main floor, my destination. I quickly walked out while a European gentlemen was entering. I turned in time to see her pressing a room floor and begin her pitch again. It was that same sales pitch that became the topic of conversation all the way to work that night since we all got the same pitch on the way down; well all of us except for the Indian guy. The American guy has been here many times for work and confirmed she's been hustling blowjobs to the guest who look like they could use one.

It was night work. Turns out only two of us were needed for work that night. The Chinese guy and I drew the short straws so we went out to wander the streets that night. He claimed that he knew of a bar called Joey's where we could grab a drink but he immediately got us lost. While missing and hopelessly circumventing Joey's we came upon a tinted glass door in one of the back alleys we were crisscrossing to find the place. He decided this was definitely it so in we went. Upon entering all we saw was a dark corridor with another tinted glass door at the end. When entering door that we found ourselves in another hallway with yet another door at the end. Mutual shrugs were our agreement that we should take it further though the next door didn't contain a hallway but a dimly lit, yet slightly dank, room with a few worn couches in the middle. The last couch sat youngish sluttish looking Israeli girl with a mini-skirt about pussy high and red lip gloss, fire-hydrant red #5 if I'm not mistaken. She was side eyeing us up and down, legs crossed, while smoking a cigarette. What apparently turned out to be the madame came out of a door to our right that I had just noticed, quoted a menu, and then went back through. In looking at our new found friend on the couch she was now considering us as if she was agreeing with herself that she could do a Chinese guy, a Black guy, or even both of us if she had too. Turns out she wasn't going to have to consider the first or the third options. My Chinese co-worker turned about as red as her lip gloss and offered a swift apology and an even swifter exit. I lingered for an eternity of three seconds before doing the same but that was only the first part of the plan I had marshaled while stalling those considerate few seconds. Leaving was step 1. Step 2 would be to suggest to my Chinese co-worker outside that we just go back to hotel. Step 3 would be to memorize every step of the way back to the hotel from this place. Step 4 would be to reverse those steps back to this place from the hotel. Step 5 was me going through the tinted glass rabbit hole again. Step 6, well you know.

And the plan did go over without a problem. I ran into the Russian trollop in the elevator while dumping the Chinese guy back at the hotel for the night. I declined her felicitous offering but informed her that my co-worker would be interested the next night as I passed her the room number of my Indian co-worker. Still laughing about that to this day as I write this! With all that said it was to be a first; a pay-for-p$ssy first. Being fresh out of college I had never had to but that night I found out that I wouldn't object to it either. Over the next weeks I spent time in Jerusalem (alot of schwarma and hummus) and well as many cities from the Golan Heights on down to Gulf of Aqaba and the Sinai. Floated in the Dead Sea as a must. On a more off topic note we decided to venture into Egypt to go to Cairo and Aswan on a off weekend. That trip included the Egyptian Army guarding us from Bedouins from the back of our tour truck, me being denied entry into Israel on the way back on the account they thought I was African, and being stuck in the Gaza Strip at the Rafah crossing at 3AM after the tour van back to Tel Aviv ditched us (all on my birthday might I add). I paced steps and re-entered that maze of tinted glass doors though many times in between working and my just mentioned adventures. I got to know Dorit (fire-hydrant red #5) many times from looking down on her from above and from the back as a result. It was a first for me as a monger.

And I've been looking for that tinted glass door everywhere ever since. I've found it again on occasion. Once in Curitiba on my first trip to Brazil. Found it again in Bangkok on Sukmhimvit and Soi 7 (not far past the Nana BTS station and just past the Subway Restaurant for those who are looking for Eden). All of Pattaya Soi 6 was a tinted glass door hiding a maze of tinted glass doors for me. The Ethiopian girl working the clubs in Kabukicho that I spent almost a year with while living in Tokyo was a tinted glass door proving that not only places but the girls can hold that same new fascination for me. Ever searching.

And The Dominican Republic, Sosua. Maybe it's the culture, maybe it's environment, or maybe it's the lovely carmel and dark skinned ass. Well, it surely was the ass but also a mix of all 3 that made Sosua a tinted glass door. A rare new experience. POP was the tinted glass door. The beach, the street with Rumba, Classicos, and El Flow were the maze of hallways and all the chicas. The chicas with their smiling eyes, the mysterious allure that only women posses, and the pied piper like affect of rhythmic sway of their stroll that have that fire hydrant red #5 appeal; you know the one.

Once upon a time, the end. I just thought I would try to come up with a unifying post. Something that mentions Israel, hummus, red wine, and Sosua all in the same post.

my day usually begins by using the laptop a few minutes. speed of sea breeze wi fi was 1. 5 mb while i used it.

it is sunday in sosua, june 24, san juan day. tens and tens of thousands people in my country (puerto rico) go to the beach by night to celebrate the san juan night, june 23 to 24. the idea is to enter to the water by midnight for good luck. dozens of festivals are celebrated around my island that night. the chica from grandes melons told us that usually a lot of people go to the beach the san juan day. well not by night as in puerto rico but there were a lot of people sunday.

panman and i wanted to eat something and we headed to the public beach to find a place i have read here but do not remember the name. we finally stopped at the place, kiosk 109, big d's bbq. delicious ribs and french fries from 200 pesos. the drunken chicken was good too. then we went back to # 74 or 79, mofongo king to watch the italy-england euro cop game. while there we sipped a few beers and ate one of the best mofongo you can eat. mofongo king has clean bathrooms if this is an important fact to you. the other places i used the bathroom they were terrible. after the game we went again to #94, latina grandes melones to talk k with the chica that work there and to drink beer. nice to talk chica. latinas daughter showed there and the other chica connected her for me for a night date. she is 18 years old. i saw latina inside the kiosk looking to us, no happy face when she saw me with her daughter. maybe that was the cause that she was a no show by night, who knows. we left the place and gave the chica a 100 pesos tip that we later learned she never received it. we went back to the hotel for a couple of hours and returned by 10:00 pm to four roses bar. panman's friend was there talking with an old guy. she rapidly joined us. my stomach was hurting so i went to the bathroom but had to go back to the hotel. panman and his chica went with me but they disappeared inside his room for the rest of the night. panman told me the girl was nice except that she had stinky mouth. i suggested him give her listerine shots instead of tequila shots. another idea was to put some colgate total on his member's head and ask her for a blowjob. i do not know if that worked but at least her pussy is 100% gingivitis free.

i went to classicos where contrary to last february the beer was cold. a few sosua places serve the beer not enough cold, i do not like that. the sunday classicos crowd was a lot better than saturday. i talked with a couple of chicas before another one caught my attention. she is a 21 yr. old from santo domingo, maribel. she was with two other girls, also very hot. we talked for a few minutes, i ordered her a beer. i told her that i was returning to santo domingo next day and she replied that she wanted to go with me. her original plan was to return to santo domingo five days later but that if i take her she will go with me. i am not a long term guy unless i know her better so i declined. she told me she was staying at a place i do not remember the name; it was calypso or neptuno, the cheap one. she told me she is paying $15 per night with air conditioner. she rented with the other 2 chicas. we danced a little and my stomach began to betray me again. i had to go back to my room so i took her phone number to call her later. that's when i saw the skinny farting girl i posted a report a few days ago (report 13097). next time i see her if i return to sosua i am sure i am going to be fart fart away from her.

so after fart girl left the room i called maribel and she arrived a little late. i told her i was at the sea breeze but she went to colibri, which sounds similar at the end of each name. she provided me excellent girlfriend experience, she really wanted to go to santo domingo with me, lol. excellent blowjob, good sex. she wanted to stay with me, but i never sleep with first timers. i paid her; she saw my laptop and gave me her facebook contact info. one of the girls she was with arrived in a concho to pick her, mmm a threesome idea traveled my mind after they left, but i go up to sleep.

the picture provided was taken from her social network page, edited to protect her identity.

[QUOTE=Kitie Carson;1299414]1st 4 pics are not in Sosua but at BB's. Last pic of T-shirt is at Passions.[/QUOTE]Thank you, you saved me & effort responding to that guy.

we talking smoking hot body she would on bus with me. dam i ned yo get there soon.

[quote=boricuaonline; 1299512]my day usually begins by using the laptop a few minutes. speed of sea breeze wi fi was 1. 5 mb while i used it.

it is sunday in sosua, june 24, san juan day. tens and tens of thousands people in my country (puerto rico) go to the beach by night to celebrate the san juan night, june 23 to 24. the idea is to enter to the water by midnight for good luck. dozens of festivals are celebrated around my island that night. the chica from grandes melons told us that usually a lot of people go to the beach the san juan day. well not by night as in puerto rico but there were a lot of people sunday.

panman and i wanted to eat something and we headed to the public beach to find a place i have read here but do not remember the name. we finally stopped at the place, kiosk 109, big d's bbq. delicious ribs and french fries from 200 pesos. the drunken chicken was good too. then we went back to # 74 or 79, mofongo king to watch the italy-england euro cop game. while there we sipped a few beers and ate one of the best mofongo you can eat. mofongo king has clean bathrooms if this is an important fact to you. the other places i used the bathroom they were terrible. after the game we went again to #94, latina grandes melones to talk k with the chica that work there and to drink beer. nice to talk chica. latinas daughter showed there and the other chica connected her for me for a night date. she is 18 years old. i saw latina inside the kiosk looking to us, no happy face when she saw me with her daughter. maybe that was the cause that she was a no show by night, who knows. we left the place and gave the chica a 100 pesos tip that we later learned she never received it. we went back to the hotel for a couple of hours and returned by 10:00 pm to four roses bar. panman's friend was there talking with an old guy. she rapidly joined us. my stomach was hurting so i went to the bathroom but had to go back to the hotel. panman and his chica went with me but they disappeared inside his room for the rest of the night. panman told me the girl was nice except that she had stinky mouth. i suggested him give her listerine shots instead of tequila shots. another idea was to put some colgate total on his member's head and ask her for a blowjob. i do not know if that worked but at least her pussy is 100% gingivitis free.

i went to classicos where contrary to last february the beer was cold. a few sosua places serve the beer not enough cold, i do not like that. the sunday classicos crowd was a lot better than saturday. i talked with a couple of chicas before another one caught my attention. she is a 21 yr. old from santo domingo, maribel. she was with two other girls, also very hot. we talked for a few minutes, i ordered her a beer. i told her that i was returning to santo domingo next day and she replied that she wanted to go with me. her original plan was to return to santo domingo five days later but that if i take her she will go with me. i am not a long term guy unless i know her better so i declined. she told me she was staying at a place i do not remember the name; it was calypso or neptuno, the cheap one. she told me she is paying $15 per night with air conditioner. she rented with the other 2 chicas. we danced a little and my stomach began to betray me again. i had to go back to my room so i took her phone number to call her later. that's when i saw the skinny farting girl i posted a report a few days ago (report 13097). next time i see her if i return to sosua i am sure i am going to be fart fart away from her.

so after fart girl left the room i called maribel and she arrived a little late. i told her i was at the sea breeze but she went to colibri, which sounds similar at the end of each name. she provided me excellent girlfriend experience, she really wanted to go to santo domingo with me, lol. excellent blowjob, good sex. she wanted to stay with me, but i never sleep with first timers. i paid her; she saw my laptop and gave me her facebook contact info. one of the girls she was with arrived in a concho to pick her, mmm a threesome idea traveled my mind after they left, but i go up to sleep.

the picture provided was taken from her social network page, edited to protect her identity.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Kitie Carson;1299414]1st 4 pics are not in Sosua but at BB's. Last pic of T-shirt is At Passions.[/QUOTE]Photos I took in Sosua, many years ago (I have posted them before). In the Palms, El Neptuno, Classicos and Playa Chiquita Casino Disco.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1299512].My stomach was hurting so I went to the bathroom but had to go back to the hotel. Panman and his chica went with me but they disappeared inside his room for the rest of the night. Panman told me the girl was nice except that she had stinky mouth. I suggested him give her Listerine shots instead of tequila shots. Another idea was to put some Colgate Total on his member's head and ask her for a blowjob. I do not know if that worked but at least her pussy is 100% gingivitis free.[/QUOTE]If Boricua Online had done his ISG research, he would know to never arrive in DR without Imodium A-D in his bag. I, on the other hand, brought plenty of new toothbrushes for the chicas to eliminate dick breath, but I think next time I will bring listerine strips as well.

[QUOTE=Panman;1299688]If Boricua Online had done his ISG research, he would know to never arrive in DR without Imodium A-D in his bag. I, on the other hand, brought plenty of new toothbrushes for the chicas to eliminate dick breath, but I think next time I will bring listerine strips as well.[/QUOTE]A few years ago in a Chinese-Dominican owned pica pollo restaurant (fast food fried chicken) , I bought a pro an order of pechuga (boneless fried chicken pieces) and tostones for around 225 pesos. On the counter near the cashier were individually wrapped Halls menthol cough lozenges, the pro bought a couple. After eating the chicken, she popped a Halls into her a mouth and eventually gave me a BJ that had a little extra sensation from the menthol (Altoids, I heard also work good). Chewing gum with a strong flavor, might mask some chica bad breath.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1299669]Photos I took in Sosua, many years ago (I have posted them before). In the Palms, El Neptuno, Classicos and Playa Chiquita Casino Disco.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the good memories Jao, send me some private stock! . LOL

Just wanted to add a few things I bring to help avoid a less than perfect time.

I bring the following:

1. Liquid body wash for the shower with matching scented body lotion.

2. Summers Eve (Morning Paradise) cleansing wash for the vagina.

3. Tooth brushes from the dollar store. Travel size. For a dollar.

4. Plastic shower cap. Again from the dollar store or local grocery store.

5. Large bottle of strong mouth wash.

For a little extra fun:

1. Listerine strips.

2. Blow pops.

3. Cough drops. I like Halls menthol

In the event of an emergency:

1. Imodium and or Pepto Bismol tablets.

2. Gas X strips. They work fast.

3. Your favorite ibuprofen.

4. Swiss Army knife with all the toys. I got one from a friend on my 50th B-Day at BB's a few years backand have used it on every trip.

5. Band-aides just a few various sizes.

Last tip: If I am heading out for the day I just throw in most of the above and a few condoms in a small back pack and put it in the trunk of my car just in case.

Just some thoughts.

[QUOTE=Traveler04; 1299843]Just wanted to add a few things I bring to help avoid a less than perfect time.

I bring the following:

1. Liquid body wash for the shower with matching scented body lotion.

2. Summers Eve (Morning Paradise) cleansing wash for the vagina.

3. Tooth brushes from the dollar store. Travel size. For a dollar.

4. Plastic shower cap. Again from the dollar store or local grocery store.

5. Large bottle of strong mouth wash.

For a little extra fun:

1. Listerine strips.

2. Blow pops.

3. Cough drops. I like Halls menthol

In the event of an emergency:

1. Imodium and or Pepto Bismol tablets.

2. Gas X strips. They work fast.

3. Your favorite ibuprofen.

4. Swiss Army knife with all the toys. I got one from a friend on my 50th B-Day at BB's a few years backand have used it on every trip.

5. Band-aides just a few various sizes.

Last tip: If I am heading out for the day I just throw in most of the above and a few condoms in a small back pack and put it in the trunk of my car just in case.

Just some thoughts.[/QUOTE]Great list but if a hooker I'm with has stank puss, I'd Just rather give her money too LEAVE and sans the douche. Its one of the few things thats just a deal breaker for me and something I won't tolerate. Its just not worth the trouble, and I never ever do DATY with hookers but love it with my close novias.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2;1298978]Not one of my GFE's ever asked for money or told me an amount during the TLN and I don't ask. I trust my research. I give a good reward for a great performance. Some people like to know upfront, but negotiating kills the fantasy for me. It might not be an advisable strategy for some, but it works for me.[/QUOTE]Thanks for offering a different perspective on negotiation.

I have always settled price before the room. That's what people on this board recommended.

But yes, I feel talking money kills the vibe with premium or more genuine chicas.

I am impressed you manage to know a girl in classico, with the noise and all. I always take them to POP for my "interview" as you say.

Sosua, city of prostitutes: [url]http://youtu.be/66IBrAE9Pgs[/url]

I would respectfully like to add lubricant to that list. I had a few Chicas ask if I add lube.

[QUOTE=Traveler04; 1299843]Just wanted to add a few things I bring to help avoid a less than perfect time.

I bring the following:

1. Liquid body wash for the shower with matching scented body lotion.

2. Summers Eve (Morning Paradise) cleansing wash for the vagina.

3. Tooth brushes from the dollar store. Travel size. For a dollar.

4. Plastic shower cap...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1299867]Sosua, city of prostitutes:

[url]http://youtu.be/66IBrAE9Pgs[/url][/QUOTE]I recognise a few of the gringos walking past. Maybe they won't be too pleased to see their faces on uTube.

Hardly a study in depth, is it? At first I thought that was just the trailer for a longer film. But she has promise as a filmmaker. I would like to see something more ambitious by her.

Sex, I noticing is such a hot topic. These journalist always follow the trends. Stories on Thailand, Philippines, Mexico, China, etc. Hopefully some other places (east of DR) opens up soon so the attention get diverted away from our play pen.

It is pretty scandalous how they blame the mongers as if were the ones that created the type of environment that supports the events of our liking. Last time I checked my nationality is not that of DR. Don't blame me for supporting an already robust economy.

Peace.

BBL.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1299867]Sosua, city of prostitutes:

[url]http://youtu.be/66IBrAE9Pgs[/url][/QUOTE][QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1299887]I recognise a few of the gringos walking past. Maybe they won't be too pleased to see their faces on uTube.

Hardly a study in depth, is it? At first I thought that was just the trailer for a longer film. But she has promise as a filmmaker. I would like to see something more ambitious by her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Drai;1299506]I just thought I would try to come up with a unifying post. Something that mentions Israel, hummus, red wine, and Sosua all in the same post.[/QUOTE]Excellent attempt Drai. Cracked up with the elevator story, your innocence about ways of the world and that of shekel. Wonder what tragedy lay with the Indian guy if and when the woman knocked on his door. I do think you should try poetry for clearly, this place gloats only within a limited range!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1299887]Sosua, city of prostitutes:

[url]http://youtu.be/66IBrAE9Pgs[/url]

I recognise a few of the gringos walking past. Maybe they won't be too pleased to see their faces on uTube.

Hardly a study in depth, is it? At first I thought that was just the trailer for a longer film. But she has promise as a filmmaker. I would like to see something more ambitious by her.[/QUOTE]Yeah, this video is crap. No story-line, and she does not even have proper audio equipment.

I am thinking about doing one video about Sosua. Need a few more trips there to really understand though.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1299850]Great list but if a hooker I'm with has stank puss, I'd Just rather give her money too LEAVE and sans the douche. Its one of the few things thats just a deal breaker for me and something I won't tolerate. Its just not worth the trouble, and I never ever do DATY with hookers but love it with my close novias.[/QUOTE]LOL the horror.

But find this very hard to ever seen this happen to me.

I guess my selecting process is strict.

But if you compare the hookers from DR vs America.

Everygirl in DR I encounter jumps in the shower automatically.

I cud been waiting with the biggest hard On.

They jump in a shower and get Fresh before you can even.

See the pussy.

Some will even shave tooo

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1296914]I have been going to Jose Master Barber on Pedro Clisante, for a few years, located on the same side as The Shark Bar just before the now defunct Sea-Crets.

I pay him RD200 which includes a nice tip, if he tries to charge you more politely tell him to go F himself, that Sr F. B. I. Sent you, and you want a bigger discount![/QUOTE]Seeen Jose.

Cool guy.

Sold me some after shave tooo.

Thanks for the info

I WILL never buy a girl a Presidente Again!

Next time your in Sosua stop by New Garden.

From 3-11 chat it up with Miguelatthe front desk.

He speaks great English.

Ask him if he got the pictures of the girl with the eyes tattoo on her azz.

That girl was a "10" and will give you all 3 holes.

Tell him the moreno who offer the girl 500.

Pesos to do crazy fun stuff sent ya.

Ask him about the Dia Blito Drink.

It cost 80pesos I believe and dare a girl to drink.

2 STRAIGHT!

The whole Bar staff & Miguel.

We had a crazy time getting these 2 girls drunk

Greetings,

Each time as I head down south I get so excited on the plane. I am always on the same flight from Miami, so I get to Sosua at the exact same time each trip. I love to plan where I will get my first girl. Nothing is sweeter than sitting down for your first beer on calle Pedro Clisante trying to determine who the lucky lady will be. Yes, I know the street is not too busy in the afternoon.

In the back of my mind, I know most of the girls arrive for their shift at La Passions around 5. Today I successfully held out until then. There were over 20 girls there. It was just incredible. They were in EVERY shape, size, and color. Anyhow had an awesome session on premises with a spinner who had the sparkiest eyes and cutest freckles. It is a bit more expensive, but it was the perfect way to start the trip off right.

I thought I was spending some big money until I sat down at the bar. The guy next to me pulled two girls for the whole night at 5 PM. They were having a couple of Henesey's a piece before hitting the road. Bet he is in for an evening.

That is what I love about Sosua. Everybody can get exactly what they want.

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv; 1299902]Sex, I noticing is such a hot topic. These journalist always follow the trends. Stories on Thailand, Philippines, Mexico, China, etc. Hopefully some other places (east of DR) opens up soon so the attention get diverted away from our play pen.

It is pretty scandalous how they blame the mongers as if were the ones that created the type of environment that supports the events of our liking. Last time I checked my nationality is not that of DR. Don't blame me for supporting an already robust economy.

Peace.

BBL.[/QUOTE]No kidding! You'd think they would realize that "sex tourism" generally takes place in countries where prostitution is already a big part of the local culture. In places like DR, Colombia,
Brasil, Thailand, the local men are the biggest mongers around and have been for decades if not centuries.

[QUOTE=BlackCloud;1299524]Thank you, you saved me & effort responding to that guy.[/QUOTE]Yup. The pic first on the left was a Sosua chica I brought into BB's on a seriously bad New Years eve night at BB's 3 years ago when all their wenches took off for the night. That problem has since been rectified. Pic 3 was a Sosua girl working at BB's at the time. I put this post up to get the thread back on track. Thankfully Jackson took care of the offending posts about the salinity of the Dead Sea and the other seriously off topic threads about wine, etc. Thanks for your comments and understanding.

[QUOTE=Traveler04;1299843]Just wanted to add a few things I bring to help avoid a less than perfect time. Just some thoughts.[/QUOTE]Good list. I usually add, Benadryl spray (2% diphenhydramine hydrochloride, generic version is cheaper) can be handy for bug bites and some other skin irritations; insect repellant spray and a multi-sympton cold tablet (cough, congestion, allergy, pain) like Tylenol cold.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1299760]Thanks for the good memories. LOL[/QUOTE]Thanks. In Tradewinds condo, a woman I brought into Sosua (posted before).

Major changes in Sosua, story in the Gogo forum.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1300402]Thanks. In Tradewinds condo, a woman I brought into Sosua (posted before).[/QUOTE]Wow bro thats a lot of ass! Thanks for sharing! I would buy her many terry cotton bootie shorts and that would consist of her whole wardrobe. Jejejeje LOL

[QUOTE=Combo; 1300266]No kidding! You'd think they would realize that "sex tourism" generally takes place in countries where prostitution is already a big part of the local culture. In places like DR, Colombia,

Brasil, Thailand, the local men are the biggest mongers around and have been for decades if not centuries.[/QUOTE]Meh pinch faced protestants were always on mongers asses, among others. If mongering and "sex tourism" were the only problem this world had, we would be laughing.

Hi,

First post with a few thoughts and questions.

-The pizza place accross from terra linda, don't order the ones with tuna. Yuck. Order something else because the pie was nice, but don't order the waitress because she has a mustache, unless you like the stache.

-Brittania pub serves a nice breakfast.

-Beach seems dead on weekdays. A few families, mongers with girls, torts. 1 in 50 chairs used on Wednesday.

-Strip is not dead, but not packed weeknights this week.

-Does anyone know of any massage+HE places that actually give a good massage?

-Which bars are best for early (8PMish) ST pickups?

-Can anyone just buy name brand Cialis? Where?

Thanks! I'll post more info once I've been here a bit longer.

Hi,

First post with a few thoughts and questions.

-The pizza place accross from terra linda, don't order the ones with tuna. Yuck. Order something else because the pie was nice, but don't order the waitress because she has a mustache, unless you like the stache.

-Brittania pub serves a nice breakfast.

-Beach seems dead on weekdays. A few families, mongers with girls, torts. 1 in 50 chairs used on Wednesday.

-Strip is not dead, but not packed weeknights this week.

-Does anyone know of any massage+HE places that actually give a good massage?

-Which bars are best for early (8PMish) ST pickups?

-Can anyone just buy name brand Cialis? Where?

Thanks! I'll post more info once I've been here a bit longer.

[QUOTE=Misa0; 1300859]Hi,

-Does anyone know of any massage+HE places that actually give a good massage?

-Which bars are best for early (8PMish) ST pickups?

-Can anyone just buy name brand Cialis? Where?

Thanks! I'll post more info once I've been here a bit longer.[/QUOTE]-M&M massage center (in the same spot where the Claro store is) used to be very good. Did not try them out last trip. It is a legit massage so don't expect any "happy endings" and such.

-As weak as Rumba Bar was when I was there, it was actually the spot where I found all my chicas for "pre-Classicos" sessions. I would say you can find something good there anytime after 4pm-ish. Better talent arriving the later it gets though.

-I could not find name brand Cialis at the pharmacy I normally go to that is down the street from New Garden and next to the cigar shop and ice cream shop. You can by Cialis in the DR without a perscription, but I don't know where else to tell you to look. La Pela is a generic version of Cialis and works just as good. They didn't have La Pela that trip either. Bought some pills called "Mambo 36" which is still Tadalafil and worked just as good. They come in 20 mg packets. I would stay away from any of that shit those guys try to sell you on the street.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1301121]-M&M massage center (in the same spot where the Claro store is) used to be very good. Did not try them out last trip. It is a legit massage so don't expect any "happy endings" and such.

-As weak as Rumba Bar was when I was there, it was actually the spot where I found all my chicas for "pre-Classicos" sessions. I would say you can find something good there anytime after 4pm-ish. Better talent arriving the later it gets though.

-I could not find name brand Cialis at the pharmacy I normally go to that is down the street from New Garden and next to the cigar shop and ice cream shop. You can by Cialis in the DR without a perscription, but I don't know where else to tell you to look. La Pela is a generic version of Cialis and works just as good. They didn't have La Pela that trip either. Bought some pills called "Mambo 36" which is still Tadalafil and worked just as good. They come in 20 mg packets. I would stay away from any of that shit those guys try to sell you on the street.[/QUOTE]I second the suggestion about Rumba Bar and across the street (El Flow, I think). I would go there around 5 or 6 to get something to eat, and would see a decent amount of girls already out. Was waiting for my burger to come and had to shoo some away. Couldn't they tell I wanted red meat, not pussy?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1301121]-I could not find name brand Cialis at the pharmacy I normally go to that is down the street from New Garden and next to the cigar shop and ice cream shop. You can by Cialis in the DR without a perscription, but I don't know where else to tell you to look. La Pela is a generic version of Cialis and works just as good. They didn't have La Pela that trip either. Bought some pills called "Mambo 36" which is still Tadalafil and worked just as good. They come in 20 mg packets. I would stay away from any of that shit those guys try to sell you on the street.[/QUOTE]The middle aged women in the pharmacy next to the Playero minimarket wear Cialis polo shirts, which might be an indication that it is available there. Other than that I have no idea.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1301121]-M&M massage center (in the same spot where the Claro store is) used to be very good. Did not try them out last trip. It is a legit massage so don't expect any "happy endings" and such.[/QUOTE]M and M is still very good. They are located in the plaza behind to ORANGE store (not the Claro store). When you go into the plaza go to the far left hand corner for M and M, the massage place to the right is a rip off place offering mediocre massages and offering extras for 2000 pesos. I usually go to M and M every day for a massage when I am in town, best $20 you will spend in Sosua in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1301169]M and M is still very good. They are located in the plaza behind to ORANGE store (not the Claro store).[/QUOTE]My bad, LOL. I don't know how I fucked that up. I haven't used Claro since '09 when they wouldn't rent me a SIM for my Moto Razr (because I wasn't going to be there for 3 months or more). Incidentally there are girls offering massages near the Claro store, LOL (that long row of Haitian vendors with the one guy that sells the knock-off Crocs). I'm sure the massage sucks but I'm almost sure you'll get a happy ending.

Speaking of the Orange store, I was happy to see that the light-skinned shorty with the big ass who speaks perfect English was back working there (hadn't seen her on my past few trips). Love her voice, lol.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1301183]My bad, LOL. I don't know how I fucked that up. I haven't used Claro since '09 when they wouldn't rent me a SIM for my Moto Razr (because I wasn't going to be there for 3 months or more). Incidentally there are girls offering massages near the Claro store, LOL (that long row of Haitian vendors with the one guy that sells the knock-off Crocs). I'm sure the massage sucks but I'm almost sure you'll get a happy ending.

Speaking of the Orange store, I was happy to see that the light-skinned shorty with the big ass who speaks perfect English was back working there (hadn't seen her on my past few trips). Love her voice, LOL.[/QUOTE]That would be Yolanda, she was working at the sister store in Cabarete. Nice looking chica but you better have major pesos to making any headway with her, she is working on the big payday.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1301151]The middle aged women in the pharmacy next to the Playero minimarket wear Cialis polo shirts, which might be an indication that it is available there. Other than that I have no idea.[/QUOTE]Mambo 36 is available at Latino Mini Market on Alejo Martinez about 3 blocks down the street from Bon Ice Cream shop. They also have generic viagra at the lowest price in town.

A Chica offered to rent me her apartment on Pedro Clissante in the large building next to Hotel Europa next week. I remember seeing many girls living there, so may be fun. Right in the middle of the action.

Anybody stayed in this building?

[QUOTE=Misa0; 1300807]Hi,

First post with a few thoughts and questions.

-The pizza place accross from terra linda, don't order the ones with tuna. Yuck. Order something else because the pie was nice, but don't order the waitress because she has a mustache, unless you like the stache.

-Brittania pub serves a nice breakfast.

-Beach seems dead on weekdays. A few families, mongers with girls, torts. 1 in 50 chairs used on Wednesday.

-Strip is not dead, but not packed weeknights this week.

-Does anyone know of any massage+HE places that actually give a good massage?

-Which bars are best for early (8PMish) ST pickups?

-Can anyone just buy name brand Cialis? Where?

Thanks! I'll post more info once I've been here a bit longer.[/QUOTE]Want to confirm that' pharmacy near the park close to the western union, sells, name brand, Cialis.

Friday night in Sosua a monger (not a vet, but not a newbie either) agreed a price of 2500 pesos for TLN. Took the chica back to Terra Linda for the night. After one pop she pulled the old "leave early" stunt so he would only pay her 1500 pesos for ST. She refused to leave and he threw her out. There was no physical fight as such and she left quietly enough though obviously in a foul mood.

She came back later (early next morning?) with bruises, a cop and a lawyer, and the guy was arrested and taken to a Puerto Plata cell for the night. The security guard who had let her out said she was in good state when she left so presumably the bruises were inflicted by herself or her chulo.

Next day some of the friends he had made on his trips here, plus some very experienced ex-pats, arrived with a lawyer. Eventually they all chipped in to make up US$3500 to get him released and (I think) the charges dropped. The monger left for the US (either because it was his last day anyway or because he was understandably so pissed off with the DR, or because he was now broke, or because it was a condition of his release, I don't know which). I guess he won't be back in a hurry.

The above are the brief facts, though obviously there was a lot more hassle, unpleasantness and complications involved over a 36-hour (?) period.

Some random comments:

136, 500 pesos expended to save 1000, plus a lot of other guys precious holiday time and incidental expenses. Many guys advocate standing up to the chicas and cops and not yielding any ground. This might work 19 times out of 20 but when you look at the cost savings it is not a good bet.

I have no idea whether the guy had been drinking or was stone-cold sober but alcohol is never helpful in such situations.

The management of Terra Linda were totally unhelpful (and wouldn't let the security guard speak on the monger's behalf) but the manager of Rocky's (where the guy was not staying and who did not know the guy from Adam) spent a lot of his time helping. It might have been him who arranged a defence lawyer but don't quote me on that. I can understand Terra Linda's position. They have to carry on their business after the monger is back in the States and they don't want to make enemies of a cop and a lawyer by denying them a payday, but I suspect he would have got more backing from the New Garden and obviously at Rocky's because their whole businesses are reliant on recommendations from mongers whereas TL are trying to position themselves as a family hotel.

This sort of thing could happen in any part of the DR (or in most other corrupt countries as well) but it is far more likely to happen with hard-core putas from the "strip" in Sosua. (I imagine I will get no arguments from Jaosousa on that point). That is one reason why, after my first 2 or 3 trips, I have confined my mongering to Pto Pta, other small towns and the campo.

Kudos to all the guys who chipped in, not with "wise after the event" comments but with their time and a lot of hard cash. Most of them hardly knew the guy but they all realised it could happen to any of us. Had he been a lone wolf he could really have been screwed a lot worse.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1302463]Friday night in Sosua a monger (not a vet, but not a newbie either) agreed a price of 2500 pesos for TLN. Took the chica back to Terra Linda for the night. After one pop she pulled the old "leave early" stunt so he would only pay her 1500 pesos for ST. She refused to leave and he threw her out. There was no physical fight as such and she left quietly enough though obviously in a foul mood.

She came back later (early next morning?) with bruises, a cop and a lawyer, and the guy was arrested and taken to a Puerto Plata cell for the night. The security guard who had let her out said she was in good state when she left so presumably the bruises were inflicted by herself or her chulo.

Next day some of the friends he had made on his trips here, plus some very experienced ex-pats, arrived with a lawyer. Eventually they all chipped in to make up US$3500 to get him released and (I think) the charges dropped. The monger left for the US (either because it was his last day anyway or because he was understandably so pissed off with the DR, or because he was now broke, or because it was a condition of his release, I don't know which). I guess he won't be back in a hurry.

The above are the brief facts, though obviously there was a lot more hassle, unpleasantness and complications involved over a 36-hour (?) period.

Some random comments:

136, 500 pesos expended to save 1000, plus a lot of other guys precious holiday time and incidental expenses. Many guys advocate standing up to the chicas and cops and not yielding any ground. This might work 19 times out of 20 but when you look at the cost savings it is not a good bet.

I have no idea whether the guy had been drinking or was stone-cold sober but alcohol is never helpful in such situations.

The management of Terra Linda were totally unhelpful (and wouldn't let the security guard speak on the monger's behalf) but the manager of Rocky's (where the guy was not staying and who did not know the guy from Adam) spent a lot of his time helping. It might have been him who arranged a defence lawyer but don't quote me on that. I can understand Terra Linda's position. They have to carry on their business after the monger is back in the States and they don't want to make enemies of a cop and a lawyer by denying them a payday, but I suspect he would have got more backing from the New Garden and obviously at Rocky's because their whole businesses are reliant on recommendations from mongers whereas TL are trying to position themselves as a family hotel.

This sort of thing could happen in any part of the DR (or in most other corrupt countries as well) but it is far more likely to happen with hard-core putas from the "strip" in Sosua. (I imagine I will get no arguments from Jaosousa on that point). That is one reason why, after my first 2 or 3 trips, I have confined my mongering to Pto Pta, other small towns and the campo.

Kudos to all the guys who chipped in, not with "wise after the event" comments but with their time and a lot of hard cash. Most of them hardly knew the guy but they all realised it could happen to any of us. Had he been a lone wolf he could really have been screwed a lot worse.[/QUOTE]Charles,

I just uploaded the same story, posted it, and then your version of the same incident appeared below mine. Great minds think alike.

Very unfortunate situation. Glad it eventually worked out for the guy. Glad I did not hear that story before I arrived.

Bottom line is the puta was wrong, but we must remember we are playing in their ballpark, or, in your case, football pitch.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1302463]Friday night in Sosua a monger (not a vet, but not a newbie either) agreed a price of 2500 pesos for TLN. Took the chica back to Terra Linda for the night. After one pop she pulled the old "leave early" stunt so he would only pay her 1500 pesos for ST. She refused to leave and he threw her out. There was no physical fight as such and she left quietly enough though obviously in a foul mood.

She came back later (early next morning?) with bruises, a cop and a lawyer, and the guy was arrested and taken to a Puerto Plata cell for the night. The security guard who had let her out said she was in good state when she left so presumably the bruises were inflicted by herself or[/QUOTE]I have heard this exact same (similar) story almost word for word about 3 years ago or such?

I'm totally surprised this doesn't happen more often where as everybody on the accusing side makes out!

Sosua no doubt is an absolute GUILTY til proven innocent attitude.

I'm not surprised but very disappointed that the security guard or Terra Linda staff didn't go to bat for this monger!

How to rectify these situations? Maybe well lit hi-def cams at the entrance that can show physical state? Sign out sheets? Release forms? Who knows, has Sosua come down to this? Such a pity!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1302463]This sort of thing could happen in any part of the DR (or in most other corrupt countries as well) but it is far more likely to happen with hard-core putas from the "strip" in Sosua. (I imagine I will get no arguments from Jaosousa on that point). That is one reason why, after my first 2 or 3 trips, I have confined my mongering to Pto Pta, other small towns and the campo.[/QUOTE]Or take time to know the girl before taking her to your hotel. Or stick to Passion / premium chicas / recommendations. Or always give tip and promise of more business. There may be ways of mitigating that risk, I feel,

As much as I prefer hunting in Pto Pta and Santiago as well, I have found no equivalent to Sosua's wild partying to sunrise.

Thanks for sharing,

Charles

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1302463]The management of Terra Linda were totally unhelpful (and wouldn't let the security guard speak on the monger's behalf) but the manager of Rocky's (where the guy was not staying and who did not know the guy from Adam) spent a lot of his time helping. It might have been him who arranged a defence lawyer but don't quote me on that. I can understand Terra Linda's position. They have to carry on their business after the monger is back in the States and they don't want to make enemies of a cop and a lawyer by denying them a payday, but I suspect he would have got more backing from the New Garden and obviously at Rocky's because their whole businesses are reliant on recommendations from mongers whereas TL are trying to position themselves as a family hotel.

This sort of thing could happen in any part of the DR (or in most other corrupt countries as well) but it is far more likely to happen with hard-core putas from the "strip" in Sosua. (I imagine I will get no arguments from Jaosousa on that point). That is one reason why, after my first 2 or 3 trips, I have confined my mongering to Pto Pta, other small towns and the campo.

Kudos to all the guys who chipped in, not with "wise after the event" comments but with their time and a lot of hard cash. Most of them hardly knew the guy but they all realised it could happen to any of us. Had he been a lone wolf he could really have been screwed a lot worse.[/QUOTE]I have heard that the owners of TL are good people but I can tell anyone who wants to listen that the managers and CERTAINLY the haitian security guard there are just plain dicks so it doesn't surprise me that they hung this guy out to dry.

Incidences like this and others have made me go to my "little black book" more and more and I don't mind repeating with known star performers. I know many guys go to Sosua for variety in their diet of pussy but there is some level of risk involved.

Kudos to the guys that helped this poor bastard.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1302463]Friday night in Sosua a monger (not a vet, but not a newbie either) agreed a price of 2500 pesos for TLN. Took the chica back to Terra Linda for the night. After one pop she pulled the old "leave early" stunt so he would only pay her 1500 pesos for ST. She refused to leave and he threw her out. There was no physical fight as such and she left quietly enough though obviously in a foul mood.[/QUOTE]How exactly did he throw her out? She was leaving anyway. Or was this just a figurative throwing out?

Where were the bruises? Evidence of finger marks, or blows?

The DR is having a big old publicity campaign against physical violence against women at this time and it looks like this guy might have gotten sucked into something that got out of control.

I always say don't bother with all-nighters unless you know the chica well. Too many pitfalls and potential for misunderstandings or deception.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1302472]How to rectify these situations? Maybe well lit hi-def cams at the entrance that can show physical state?[/QUOTE]There was a security cam. TL refused to make it available for viewing. If the case had come to court they could be made to do so by subpoena but I don't suppose the guy was willing to wait in jail for three / four months just to prove his point (assuming the camera could help anyway).

[QUOTE=Frannie;1302498]How exactly did he throw her out? She was leaving anyway. Or was this just a figurative throwing out?[/QUOTE]She refused to leave until he paid the whole amount so he jostled her out of the door. No blows were struck. I have done so myself in the past but I wouldn't even go that far now. Luckily I have had no such incidents since I gave up mongering in Sosua though nowhere is safe from scams.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1302508]There was a security cam. TL refused to make it available for viewing. If the case had come to court they could be made to do so by subpoena but I don't suppose the guy was willing to wait in jail for three / four months just to prove his point (assuming the camera could help anyway).[/QUOTE]Terra Linda was the Hotel I was staying at in the infamous rental car accident dungeon trip, they were as helpful as my wingman who ran off and cried like a little baby.

At least this dude made bail.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1302513]Terra Linda was the Hotel I was staying at in the infamous rental car accident dungeon trip, they were as helpful as my wingman who ran off and cried like a little baby.

At least this dude made bail.[/QUOTE]Hillbilly I do not make light of this current issue, but your famous rent a car accident post had to be one of the top all time stories ever on this forum.

The guy was very lucky to have "friends" in this situation.

I also NEVER TLN unless I know the chica, or she is a "trusted" amiga of another chica, not worth the potential drama.

Mongering is an adventure, if you can make a problem go away for $RD1, 000 why risk it, these types of drama happen to everybody.

Much easier to swallow your pride and give her the $RD1000, then blacklist her to every monger pal you have after you leave.

Most hotel managers / owners really do not get involved in these events, as it draws attention to them and potential future conflicts with PN / Politur.

I think it's safe to say that with the recent room per night price hike and now this, Terra Linda does not want mongers staying at their hotel.

And it's a shame too since this is the only hotel I've stayed at since '10.

I think this has also alerted chicas in Sosua that this is the one hotel that they can pull this shit with guest staying there and get away with it. I can image whole chica/police/lawyer/judge rackets forming around this very con game.

Ultimately Terra Linda will not lose out because in the end if they want to combat this they will just make their hotel non-chica friendly.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1302463]She came back later (early next morning?) with bruises, a cop and a lawyer, and the guy was arrested and taken to a Puerto Plata cell for the night. The security guard who had let her out said she was in good state when she left so presumably the bruises were inflicted by herself or her chulo.[/QUOTE]Anyone have a pic of this chica? Sounds like she might be one to be avoided.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1302463]Friday night in Sosua a monger (not a vet, but not a newbie either) agreed a price of 2500 pesos for TLN. Took the chica back to Terra Linda for the night. After one pop she pulled the old "leave early" stunt so he would only pay her 1500 pesos for ST. She refused to leave and he threw her out. There was no physical fight as such and she left quietly enough though obviously in a foul mood.

She came back later (early next morning?) with bruises, a cop and a lawyer, and the guy was arrested and taken to a Puerto Plata cell for the night. The security guard who had let her out said she was in good state when she left so presumably the bruises were inflicted by herself or her chulo.

Next day some of the friends he had made on his trips here, plus some very experienced ex-pats, arrived with a lawyer. Eventually they all chipped in to make up US$3500 to get him released and (I think) the charges dropped. The monger left for the US (either because it was his last day anyway or because he was understandably so pissed off with the DR, or because he was now broke, or because it was a condition of his release, I don't know which). I guess he won't be back in a hurry.

The above are the brief facts, though obviously there was a lot more hassle, unpleasantness and complications involved over a 36-hour (?) period.

Some random comments:

136, 500 pesos expended to save 1000, plus a lot of other guys precious holiday time and incidental expenses. Many guys advocate standing up to the chicas and cops and not yielding any ground. This might work 19 times out of 20 but when you look at the cost savings it is not a good bet.

I have no idea whether the guy had been drinking or was stone-cold sober but alcohol is never helpful in such situations.

The management of Terra Linda were totally unhelpful (and wouldn't let the security guard speak on the monger's behalf) but the manager of Rocky's (where the guy was not staying and who did not know the guy from Adam) spent a lot of his time helping. It might have been him who arranged a defence lawyer but don't quote me on that. I can understand Terra Linda's position. They have to carry on their business after the monger is back in the States and they don't want to make enemies of a cop and a lawyer by denying them a payday, but I suspect he would have got more backing from the New Garden and obviously at Rocky's because their whole businesses are reliant on recommendations from mongers whereas TL are trying to position themselves as a family hotel.

This sort of thing could happen in any part of the DR (or in most other corrupt countries as well) but it is far more likely to happen with hard-core putas from the "strip" in Sosua. (I imagine I will get no arguments from Jaosousa on that point). That is one reason why, after my first 2 or 3 trips, I have confined my mongering to Pto Pta, other small towns and the campo.

Kudos to all the guys who chipped in, not with "wise after the event" comments but with their time and a lot of hard cash. Most of them hardly knew the guy but they all realised it could happen to any of us. Had he been a lone wolf he could really have been screwed a lot worse.[/QUOTE]I learned from previous events posted in the forum similar to this one to avoid this situation. As some of you remember from a weeks ago travel report fart chica Vanessa threatened me to call the police if I do not pay the 1, 000 pesos we agreed. I paid her to leave me alone. It could have cost me more. The chica entered without a cedula. She was friends of Sea Breeze security. She also said hi to Terralinda and New Garden Security while we were walking to Sea Breeze. Hotel El Rancho provides a way better security. My mistake was to choose that chica while I was a little drunk so lesson learned: fuck first and drink later.

Rockys manager is a nice guy, I met him last trip, friendly person.

Next trip to DR is going to be this Friday but to Santo Domingo only. I met a couple of pretty Badoo girls who sends me nude pics or shows webcam on a daily basis so it should be a busy weekend.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1302536]And it's a shame too since this is the only hotel I've stayed at since '10.

I think this has also alerted chicas in Sosua that this is the one hotel that they can pull this shit with guest staying there and get away with it. I can image whole chica / police / lawyer / judge rackets forming around this very con game.[/QUOTE]Stating the obvious, this clearly wasn't her 'debut' at this sort of thing.

Apparently, this girl and her accomplices liked their odds at Terra Linda based on history.

Stay at the Europa. Wouldn't pass the laugh test over there.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline; 1302631]I learned from previous events posted in the forum similar to this one to avoid this situation. As some of you remember from a weeks ago travel report fart chica Vanessa threatened me to call the police if I do not pay the 1, 000 pesos we agreed. I paid her to leave me alone. It could have cost me more. The chica entered without a cedula. She was friends of Sea Breeze security. She also said hi to Terralinda and New Garden Security while we were walking to Sea Breeze. Hotel El Rancho provides a way better security. My mistake was to choose that chica while I was a little drunk so lesson learned: fuck first and drink later.

Rockys manager is a nice guy, I met him last trip, friendly person.

Next trip to DR is going to be this Friday but to Santo Domingo only. I met a couple of pretty Badoo girls who sends me nude pics or shows webcam on a daily basis so it should be a busy weekend.[/QUOTE]How long are you staying in Santo Doming Boricua? I'll be in there on Monday for two weeks. Looking to hook up with some quality chicas. Since your a senior member maybe you can point me in the right direction.

Thanks

In most cases the chica are way more afraid 0f the policia then we are for good reason. Tourista are precious in the dr. It takes serious balls for cop the fuck with a tourist. They never know who a rich american may know. Where as a puta is a puta.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1302498]How exactly did he throw her out? She was leaving anyway. Or was this just a figurative throwing out?

Where were the bruises? Evidence of finger marks, or blows?

The DR is having a big old publicity campaign against physical violence against women at this time and it looks like this guy might have gotten sucked into something that got out of control.

I always say don't bother with all-nighters unless you know the chica well. Too many pitfalls and potential for misunderstandings or deception.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Coalburner69; 1302639]Stating the obvious, this clearly wasn't her 'debut' at this sort of thing.

Apparently, this girl and her accomplices liked their odds at Terra Linda based on history.

Stay at the Europa. Wouldn't pass the laugh test over there.[/QUOTE]Been staying at Europa since 2001, I think I'm one of the last "oldies" that still stays there, they usually give me large room, sometimes the jacuzzi room if its available at the same cash price as any other room, the rooms are huge, the ac works well and they keep it clean. If you bring your own pillow its more than "good enough". I get free muffins and water in the lobby, they change dollars right there at the front desk at a fair rate and sell beer water and soda right there as well.

Diego when sober, well even drunk Diego would have definitely gone to bat for you. He knows every single police and politur that I think any b1tches would have known better, heck even the security guards would have gone to bat for you. Only had to remove 1 chica in 11 years there. Wanted more than the agreed upon price, threatened to call the police, I called her bluff then the security guy more as a witness while things started to get loud. She left after a little struggle and name calling but looking atit in hindsight maybe I should have paid her the 500 pesos. Because I was kind weary that she might shank me when I'm not looking. Or if I go to barrio in charamicos, sosua abajo, maranata, hey you never know. Peace of mind is priceless!

[QUOTE=OldKool;1302643]In most cases the chica are way more afraid 0f the policia then we are for good reason. Tourista are precious in the dr. It takes serious balls for cop the fuck with a tourist. They never know who a rich american may know. Where as a puta is a puta.[/QUOTE]I do not concur, many guys have no clue who is who and fold when under pressure. If you do not speak a lick of Spanish and the tainted twat knows the security guy you are SOL.

It is a very small crime ring that these chicas run with politur and the hotel security. So unless you are actually connected I suggest you STFU and pay the girl the extra RD500 or RD1000 to leave and call it a night.
It pays to actually "interview" who you bring to your room over one or two beers. This is not Kansas Dorothy.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1302643]In most cases the chica are way more afraid 0f the policia then we are for good reason. Tourista are precious in the dr. It takes serious balls for cop the fuck with a tourist. They never know who a rich american may know. Where as a puta is a puta.[/QUOTE]I am not sure if this is your point but let me assure you a man was arrested because of a Chica, and I saw the group handling it as well as Rick from Rockies. Now what really happened behind closed doors between her and him, well none of us really know unless one of his close friends can chime in or maybe himself. But from what I was hearing she was scamming him.

And just on a side note I would sit in Mergengar (sp) bar often from 11:00am until 3pm. No body in the place, 90% of the time just me. I watched on several occasions Federal Police get off their bikes and go into bars across the street and do some hard core flirting with the girls in the bar for over an hour. Before everything else I heard down there it made me uneasy.


Side note2- Rockys is a great place to say for many reasons, highly recommend if you dont demand a 5 star room!

[QUOTE=OldKool;1302643]In most cases the chica are way more afraid 0f the policia then we are for good reason. Tourista are precious in the dr. It takes serious balls for cop the fuck with a tourist. They never know who a rich american may know. Where as a puta is a puta.[/QUOTE]Firstly this story was witnessed in most of its stages by numerous reliable witnesses so it is no urban legend. The one thing we don't know first-hand is the most critical part, what exactly transpired in the privacy of the monger's room.

More generally your comments are way off target.

Yes, the chicas are afraid of the police, but that makes it all the more likely that this sort of scam will happen. You can bet your life that the chica saw very little of the US$3500. The bulk would have gone to the lawyer and one or more cops and other officials. But even if she only got US$500 that would still be a good payday for her (19500 pesos). She didn't just go looking for a cop and a lawyer. She would have already known reliably bent ones and they may have pulled similar stunts before. After this success they and other "teams" will be keen to try their luck, so watch out.

Tourists may be precious to the DR but the lowlife on the streets of Sosua don't take that attitude. We are just targets and marks to them. And local Dominicans not benefitting from the sex-trade despise us and want us out of the town. The tiny contribution that the gringo sex trade makes to the DR's overall economy is not worth the way it smears the country's reputation, especially now that the US and many international organisations are controlled by, or in terror of, puritanical religious loonies.

Cops will not fuck with respectable tourists in the AIs or going around in organized tours but they have no hesitation in doing so with loners off the tourist beat or the despised mongers of Sosua. The PN in the DR are now totally out of control and there is no effective chain of authority or discipline so the street cops think they can get away with anything, especially if they are desperate for money or on drugs.

[QUOTE=Doker44;1302656]And just on a side note I would sit in Mergengar (sp) bar often from 11:00am until 3pm. No body in the place, 90% of the time just me. I watched on several occasions Federal Police get off their bikes and go into bars across the street and do some hard core flirting with the girls in the bar for over an hour.[/QUOTE]Why is it that they (the Police) have been hanging out in front of Merengue Bar so often? When I was there in May they had their asses stationed right in the middle of the walk way from about 3pm on. Every damn day I was there. The chicas wouldn't even walk past the place! That used to be my spot to sit at early evening and flirt with chicas as they passed by (pre-crackdown). But after about 30 minutes of drinking at Merengue (around 4pm) and noticing chicas not walking by because of the police, I went over to Rumba Bar and drank there.

Damn, when I walk by Merengue at 11am to 1pm I always see the dog sleeping at the bottom of the steps to Classicos I always thought that dog was daytime security LOL.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1302671]Why is it that they (the Police) have been hanging out in front of Merengue Bar so often? When I was there in May they had their asses stationed right in the middle of the walk way from about 3pm on. Every damn day I was there. The chicas wouldn't even walk past the place! That used to be my spot to sit at early evening and flirt with chicas as they passed by (pre-crackdown). But after about 30 minutes of drinking at Merengue (around 4pm) and noticing chicas not walking by because of the police, I went over to Rumba Bar and drank there.[/QUOTE]Maybe Rumba is paying the police to stand their, drawing the chicas, and therefore the customers to Rumba.

Charles is absolutely correct. I have met people who have been scammed, locked up and even run out of town by police and their friends. You're talking about a country where countless people are disappeared every year. There's a reason the AI's around Punta Cana are away from the cities and towns and surrounded by prison fence. And there's a reason you aren't in those AI's. Keep your eyes open and stay safe.

After reading all the great reports, including the ones about the scam. Something to be aware of. I'am planning a trip to the D. R. For sometime in 2013. I plan on staying at either bb or fod for three nights, then over to Sosua for either four or five nights. My question is, does anyone know how much a taxi would be from either bb or fod to Sosua? I will have a suitcase so I think I will need a taxi unless there is another form of transportation availiable.

Thanks in advance,

Q

[QUOTE=Quackup;1303056]My question is, does anyone know how much a taxi would be from either bb or fod to Sosua? I will have a suitcase so I think I will need a taxi unless there is another form of transportation available.[/QUOTE]How long is a piece of string?

If you want to go cheaply and your suitcase is just a carry on, go to the hospital taxi terminus and take a public taxis for $1, or if you want to travel in style pay $2 and have 2 seats to yourself (I. E. 1 whole seat to yourself).

If you want to ride in air-conditioned style with a reclining seat and with a large suitcase, you can get the Metro (better, because it ends in the center of Sosua) or Caribe tours buses for just a few dollars from their terminus in the center of Puerto Plata (less than $5, I think). However a taxi to get you to the bus station will cost more than the bus.

If you want the total luxury of door-to-door service in a taxi, then US$40 to US$60 should get the job done, FOD being at the lower end, and BB at the higher end.

I know a guy who drives an unmarked taxi van who would take you for a reasonable rate from FOD (not sure if he can pick up at BB because of the taxi cartel) , who is my personal chauffeur and incredibly reliable. I can't put his phone number here, but when he was in prison his cell number was eight-oh-nine (his age was) forty-four (and his height was) six two (and his date of birth) 4/24. I cannot quote you an exact price, because you would have to negotiate it yourself, but I think probably no more than $40 (1500 pesos). Diesel is about 200 pesos a gallon, though sometimes he gets it from a backyard gas station for 160, so you can't expect a completely free ride as the diesel for the round trip is probably 2 or 3 gallons alone.

[QUOTE=Quackup; 1303056]After reading all the great reports, including the ones about the scam. Something to be aware of. I'am planning a trip to the D. R. For sometime in 2013. I plan on staying at either bb or fod for three nights, then over to Sosua for either four or five nights. My question is, does anyone know how much a taxi would be from either bb or fod to Sosua? I will have a suitcase so I think I will need a taxi unless there is another form of transportation availiable.

Thanks in advance,

Q[/QUOTE]One way private taxi from BB to Sosua 1200 pesos?

One way private taxi from FoD to Sosua 700 pesos?

Help me out with your recent experiences please guys, because I am just guessing.

FoD to Sosua by publico (shared taxi) 45 pesos plus 25 peso tip to put your case in the trunk. But you would have to lug it up the drive at FoD (100 yards) and hire a couple of motoconchos (50 pesos each) at the Sosua end. I would trust a Pto Pta motoconchista with my suitcase but maybe not a Sosua one. If a smallish case one moto would do.

Another problem is, because FoD is not far along the route from the start, not many passengers will have got out by FoD, so you might be standing there for up to 15 minutes watching twenty publicos flash past full before one stops. Or you could get lucky with the first one. If it is blazing hot or raining you might prefer a private taxi door to door.

Thanks Frannie and Charles. This gives me an idea of what to expect. My luggage will be bigger than a carry on. I won't know until December of my vacation weeks. I'am hopeful to go around the end of March or beginning of April. Will report back. Thanks again. Q

[QUOTE=Coalburner69; 1302639]Stating the obvious, this clearly wasn't her 'debut' at this sort of thing.

Apparently, this girl and her accomplices liked their odds at Terra Linda based on history.

Stay at the Europa. Wouldn't pass the laugh test over there.[/QUOTE]Yea it isn't the first incident at Terra Linda where a dude got in deep shit, fuck John and his hotel.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1302803]You're talking about a country where countless people are disappeared every year.[/QUOTE]That's interesting. Do you have any links to stories about mass disappearances in the DR? I can't find much in a English language news search, but there might be something in Spanish. One Canadian guy who went missing turned up later and claimed he had been kidnapped and drugged. Of course people have been disappearing since Jesus, and forget about Jimmy Hoffa, because in the US over 2000 children go missing each day.

[url]http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=2816[/url]

Interestingly-while on the subject of crime in the DR- I was talking to a Dominican American guy yesterday who had done time in prison both in New York and in the DR, who said prison was much worse in the US.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1303174]Interestingly-while on the subject of crime in the DR- I was talking to a Dominican American guy yesterday who had done time in prison both in New York and in the DR, who said prison was much worse in the US.[/QUOTE]That's hard to believe.

Has there any similar incidents at the NG that anyone is aware off?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1303174]One Canadian guy who went missing turned up later and claimed he had been kidnapped and drugged.[/QUOTE]If I recall, this turned out to be a poorly orchestrated hoax to weasel out of a bad business deal with a few other slippery expats. I concur, actual kidnappings in DR are pretty rare.

Sounds to me like this is a fairly isolated incident. Although I am sure not unique. I think if this was a common occurrence, we would be hearing these stories much more often. I am not saying on does not need to be careful. On the contrary, while mongering one should always be on the lookout. Have to remember that as a monger one exposes himself to shady characters and potentially risky situations in more that one respect. This goes for mongering anywhere in the world. Someone mentioned that mongers in the DR are guilty until proven innocent. I find this a little far-fetched. If it was the case, every puta would be returning to the hotel in the morning with a lynch mob and a portable gallows. But the DR is a corrupt country and I am sure incidents happen to tourists every now and then. Whether monger or not.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1303176]That's hard to believe.[/QUOTE]Why is it hard to believe that prison in the US is worse than in the DR? I have no reason to disbelieve him, but of course it is all a matter of person opinion. I have spent a few years in US prisons (as an employee, not as an inmate) and I can't imagine how life could be much worse. Then again, I have not been in a DR prison, not even to visit. He said there was much less violence in the DR.

[QUOTE=Buscemi;1303178]If I recall, this turned out to be a poorly orchestrated hoax to weasel out of a bad business deal with a few other slippery expats. I concur, actual kidnappings in DR are pretty rare.[/QUOTE]I have no real opinion as to whether they are rare or common. Just seeking more information.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1303176]That's hard to believe.[/QUOTE]Because corruption in the Dominican prison system allows you certain amenities. There was a big shot killed a few years back that had home cooked meals delivered to his cell along with two seventeen year old girls for sex.

[quote]I have spent a few years in US prisons (as an employee, not as an inmate) and I can't imagine how life could be much worse.[/quote]Granted the USA takes its usual place as the worst in the "civilized"/"advanced" world in prison along with every other social measure. But let's not pretend that USA prisons, savage, backward and terrible as they are, are worse than what exists in the DR.

Don't take my word for it.

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A15322-2005Mar7.html[/url]

[url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/woman-tells-of-fourmonth-prison-ordeal-in-dominican-republic-6167413.html[/url]

"Poor prisoners are called "ranas" or frogs. They sleep on the floor with mice and vermin around them. They have no private rooms or baths and they must use latrine-type holes in the jail patio and openly evacuate. These prisoners all shower together and fight for the last drop of water, while the goleta owners enjoy private baths. Every morning at about 9am there is a "conteo" or prisoner count where they are asked to walk out of the cells into the hallway to be counted."Special" prisoners, those who have clout or money, can remain in bed and be counted by the "llavero." Some prisoners even have their own keys to their cell. These prisoners can walk around the hallway after curfew with their own keys and do favors for other prisoners, like passing cell phones for rent and buy food."

- From Dr1

[quote]That's interesting. Do you have any links to stories about mass disappearances in the DR?[/quote][url]Http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/countries/americas/dominican-republic[/url]

Some highlights:

"According to figures from the General Prosecutor's Office. 298 people were killed by the police between January and August, an increase of 72 per cent over the same period in 2007. There were concerns that a number of these fatal shootings may have been unlawful. In October the Dominican Interior and Police Minister described the levels of fatal police shootings as "alarming" and called for corrupt officers to be expelled from the force and for improved police training. With no independent body to investigate allegations of abuse by members of the security forces, impunity remained the norm."

"Media workers were harassed and intimidated. In October the Dominican National Union of Press Workers announced that between January and September. 32 journalists had been physically attacked or threatened and that 21 others had been subjected to spurious judicial proceedings because of their work."

[url]http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/2010/wha/154503.htm[/url]

More highlights:

"Serious human rights problems included unlawful killings; beatings and other abuse of suspects, detainees, and prisoners; fair to harsh prison conditions; arbitrary arrest and detention of suspects; a large number of functionally stateless persons; widespread corruption; harassment of certain human rights groups; violence and discrimination against women; child prostitution and other abuses of children; trafficking in persons; severe discrimination against Haitian migrants and their descendants; violence and discrimination against persons based on sexual orientation; ineffective enforcement of labor laws; and child labor."

"According to National Police statistics, police killed 268 persons in 32 jurisdictions in the course of duty from January to December, a decrease from 346 police killings reported in 2009 by the Attorney General's Office. However, the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) , a nongovernmental organization (NGO) , reported 478 police killings, although the methodology used to arrive at this figure was unclear. Lack of training, accountability, and inadequate supervision by superiors contributed to these police killings. Human rights NGOs asserted that, as in previous years, the police continued to employ unwarranted deadly force against criminal suspects. The National Police regularly justified the use of deadly force by claiming that the deaths occurred during an "exchange of gunfire." This often did appear to be the case"

"In response to a December 2009 request from the Inter-American Commission of Human Rights, the Public Ministry continued the investigation into the case of journalist Narciso Gonzalez, who disappeared in 1994 after allegedly criticizing the government. The investigation remained open at year's end."

"Although the law prohibits torture, beating, and physical abuse of detainees and prisoners, members of the security forces, primarily police, continued such practices. The Attorney General's Office reported that the police were involved in incidents that resulted in maiming or severely injuring unarmed civilians."

"According to the Directorate of Prisons, there were 20, 609 prisoners and detainees, of which 552 were female, held in 40 prisons, with an intended capacity of 11, 055. Virtually all prisons, other than the CRCs, experienced extreme overcrowding. La Victoria prison, the largest in the country, held 5, 309 prisoners in a facility designed for 2, 000. Air circulation was a problem, and the danger of a fire outbreak was high. Most inmates in conventional prisons begged for or purchased food from persons in the vicinity of the prison or obtained it from family members. Prisoners were often not taken to their trials unless they paid bribes to the guards, and visitors often had to bribe prison guards in order to visit prisoners"

[url]http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2010/10/27/37434/Amnesty-International-probes-strange-disappearance-in-Dominican-Republic[/url]

"SANTO DOMINGO- One year on, Juan Almonte Herrera's fate continues to be unknown, for which Amnesty International (AI) has been in contact with local authorities urging a probe into what it calls a 'possible enforced disappearance in the Dominican Republic."

"Almonte has not been seen since 28 September 2009, when he was reportedly abducted by four men identified by eyewitness as police officers. Since he went missing his family and lawyers have reported being followed and watched by Police officers. He may have been subjected to enforced disappearance."

If you become friends with some Dominicans, you will hear about a lot of "fun stuff" like this. It's been going on since Trujillo.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1303174]because in the US over 2000 children go missing each day.

[url]http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=2816[/url][/QUOTE]David Cameron, Prime Minister of Britain and leader of the Conservative party, forgot his 8 year old daughter in a pub and didn't realize she was missing until he got home [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/jun/11/david-cameron-daughter-behind-pub[/url] Supposedly Mr. Cameron likes to "chillax".

[QUOTE=Frannie;1303188]Why is it hard to believe that prison in the US is worse than in the DR? I have no reason to disbelieve him, but of course it is all a matter of person opinion. I have spent a few years in US prisons (as an employee, not as an inmate) and I can't imagine how life could be much worse. Then again, I have not been in a DR prison, not even to visit. He said there was much less violence in the DR.[/QUOTE]That's the biggest bunch of bullshit I have heard coming out of your mouth in a while. Why don't you March your ass down to the Puerto Plata Jail and get a picture, I have a 200 dollar reward for anyone with the balls, I got no takers in the last 2 years.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1303206]If you become friends with some Dominicans, you will hear about a lot of "fun stuff" like this. It's been going on since Trujillo.[/QUOTE]Could you refer me to any trip reports you have written on the Dom Rep. Seems most of your recent posts are for Asian locations including Tokyo. Japan has earthquakes, tsunamis and radiation poisoning.

I have visited a good portion of the DR, day and night (for about the last ten years) , including poor neighborhoods and never had a serious problem (worst experiences were in Sosua). You have to be careful where ever you go in the world.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1303207]That's the biggest bunch of bullshit I have heard coming out of your mouth in a while. Why don't you March your ass down to the Puerto Plata Jail and get a picture, I have a 200 dollar reward for anyone with the balls, I got no takers in the last 2 years.[/QUOTE]He had been in prison both in the US and in the DR. Have you? If I took a picture of the PP jail, how would that tell me anything about what it is like to serve a 4-year sentence, which is what the guy I talked to did. I don't know which prison he was in in the DR, but he compared it favorably to Rijker's Island in New York.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1303215]He had been in prison both in the US and in the DR. Have you? If I took a picture of the PP jail, how would that tell me anything about what it is like to serve a 4-year sentence, which is what the guy I talked to did. I don't know which prison he was in in the DR, but he compared it favorably to Rijker's Island in New York.[/QUOTE]You must be the only person on this board who doesn't know the conditions of the Puerto Plata Jail. Why do you think guys gave their own money to help him get out? Because they like giving away their money? Fuck no! They know damn well where that guy went and what the conditions are there, maybe someday you will figure out how they know.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1303206][url]Http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/countries/americas/dominican-republic[/url]

Some highlights:

"According to figures from the General Prosecutor's Office. 298 people were killed by the police between January and August, an increase of 72 per cent over the same period in 2007. There were concerns that a number of these fatal shootings may have been unlawful. In October the Dominican Interior and Police Minister described the levels of fatal police shootings as "alarming" and called for corrupt officers to be expelled from the force and for improved police training. With no independent body to investigate allegations of abuse by members of the security forces, impunity remained the norm."

"Media workers were harassed and intimidated. In October the Dominican National Union of Press Workers announced that between January and September. 32 journalists had been physically attacked or threatened and that 21 others had been subjected to spurious judicial proceedings because of their work."

[url]http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/2010/wha/154503.htm[/url]

More highlights:

"Serious human rights problems included unlawful killings; beatings and other abuse of suspects, detainees, and prisoners; fair to harsh prison conditions; arbitrary arrest and detention of suspects; a large number of functionally stateless persons; widespread corruption; harassment of certain human rights groups; violence and discrimination against women; child prostitution and other abuses of children; trafficking in persons; severe discrimination against Haitian migrants and their descendants; violence and discrimination against persons based on sexual orientation; ineffective enforcement of labor laws; and child labor."

"According to National Police statistics, police killed 268 persons in 32 jurisdictions in the course of duty from January to December, a decrease from 346 police killings reported in 2009 by the Attorney General's Office. However, the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) , a nongovernmental organization (NGO) , reported 478 police killings, although the methodology used to arrive at this figure was unclear. Lack of training, accountability, and inadequate supervision by superiors contributed to these police killings. Human rights NGOs asserted that, as in previous years, the police continued to employ unwarranted deadly force against criminal suspects. The National Police regularly justified the use of deadly force by claiming that the deaths occurred during an "exchange of gunfire." This often did appear to be the case"

"In response to a December 2009 request from the Inter-American Commission of Human Rights, the Public Ministry continued the investigation into the case of journalist Narciso Gonzalez, who disappeared in 1994 after allegedly criticizing the government. The investigation remained open at year's end."

"Although the law prohibits torture, beating, and physical abuse of detainees and prisoners, members of the security forces, primarily police, continued such practices. The Attorney General's Office reported that the police were involved in incidents that resulted in maiming or severely injuring unarmed civilians."

"According to the Directorate of Prisons, there were 20, 609 prisoners and detainees, of which 552 were female, held in 40 prisons, with an intended capacity of 11, 055. Virtually all prisons, other than the CRCs, experienced extreme overcrowding. La Victoria prison, the largest in the country, held 5, 309 prisoners in a facility designed for 2, 000. Air circulation was a problem, and the danger of a fire outbreak was high. Most inmates in conventional prisons begged for or purchased food from persons in the vicinity of the prison or obtained it from family members. Prisoners were often not taken to their trials unless they paid bribes to the guards, and visitors often had to bribe prison guards in order to visit prisoners"

[url]http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2010/10/27/37434/Amnesty-International-probes-strange-disappearance-in-Dominican-Republic[/url]

"SANTO DOMINGO- One year on, Juan Almonte Herrera's fate continues to be unknown, for which Amnesty International (AI) has been in contact with local authorities urging a probe into what it calls a 'possible enforced disappearance in the Dominican Republic."

"Almonte has not been seen since 28 September 2009, when he was reportedly abducted by four men identified by eyewitness as police officers. Since he went missing his family and lawyers have reported being followed and watched by Police officers. He may have been subjected to enforced disappearance."

If you become friends with some Dominicans, you will hear about a lot of "fun stuff" like this. It's been going on since Trujillo.[/QUOTE]Right, I know that the Dominican police are inclined to administer summary justice and I agree that the claims of exchange of fire are pretty dubious in many cases, but the original claim was that "in the DR countless people disappear every year". The narratives above only mention two people who disappeared, one in 1994 and the other in 2009. While there might be other cases, you would think that Amnesty International would mention if disappearances were a very common feature of life in the DR.

Of course let's not forget the US government has also been involved in abducting persons politically opposed to the US regime and torturing them.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1303222]You must be the only person on this board who doesn't know the conditions of the Puerto Plata Jail. Why do you think guys gave their own money to help him get out? Because they like giving away their money? Fuck no! They know damn well where that guy went and what the conditions are there, maybe someday you will figure out how they know.[/QUOTE]It was not me who was in prison in the DR, it was a guy I was talking to who is serving 1 year post-prison probation before he can return to the US. I am sure the PP jail is very unpleasant, but I doubt whether many people on this board have seen it, or taken photographs of it. It is just the opinion of one guy who had been in prison in the US and in the DR. I was surprised too when he said that, but since he had been telling me that he shanked a guy in Rijker's Island, I though it was best not to tell him he was a liar. When I see him again, I will ask him to get in touch with you.

So you are saying that these guys who helped out the wrongly accused guy had all been in the PP jail themselves? That is an interesting twist to the story that Pooter did not have.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1303226]It was not me who was in prison in the DR, it was a guy I was talking to who is serving 1 year post-prison probation before he can return to the US. I am sure the PP jail is very unpleasant, but I doubt whether many people on this board have seen it, or taken photographs of it. It is just the opinion of one guy who had been in prison in the US and in the DR. I was surprised too when he said that, but since he had been telling me that he shanked a guy in Rijker's Island, I though it was best not to tell him he was a liar. When I see him again, I will ask him to get in touch with you.[/QUOTE]Before you start spreading your BS too far relize it was me who was thrown in the DR dungeon, maybe someone can send you a link before you make a bigger idiot out of yourself.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1303228]Before you start spreading your BS too far relize it was me who was thrown in the DR dungeon, maybe someone can send you a link before you make a bigger idiot out of yourself.[/QUOTE]OK, so why don't you write your own account of what happened with the chica last week.

Also, I did not say this guy I talked to served his time in the Puerto Plata jail. I do not know which DR jail he was in.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1303228]Before you start spreading your BS too far relize it was me who was thrown in the DR dungeon, maybe someone can send you a link before you make a bigger idiot out of yourself.[/QUOTE]Here you go:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?504-Puerto-Plata&p=1018934&viewfull=1#post1018934[/url]

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1303232]OK, so why don't you write your own account of what happened with the chica last week.

Also, I did not say this guy I talked to served his time in the Puerto Plata jail. I do not know which DR jail he was in.[/QUOTE]I don't preach bullshit on monger boards anymore. 13 years and 30000 posts later there isn't much left to talk about. Other members say the same thing I would on a variety of topics, no reason to repeat posts, spank them on the ass or give shout outs.

Frannie and Hillybilly both make some good points. It is hard to generalize from the experiences of individuals because jails and prisons in both countries vary enormously. The DR has a program of building new prisons and the few completed so far have been praised by international inspectors as "state of the art", though of course they only house a tiny percentage of the prison population and may well suffer the same fate as most other DR institutions, a bright start betrayed by lack of cash for maintenance as time passes.

And of course there is a difference between jails (which are "temporary" places to house people awaiting trial) and prisons (which are for housing them after sentence).

Hi guys,

I'm tryin' to budget for a trip in Sosua and Cabarete. I asked for some explanations about a year ago, etc but finally been to Barcelona in Spain which was good.

I try to include all expenses. For the girls, I know have a good idea but what about the food and drinks?

I'd like to know how much is a beer in bars, in discos for example?

How much is a glass of vodka?

I may eat in Sosua and in Cabarete to. What is the average price of the Cabarete beach restaurants in the evening?

Have a good day, thanks!

Hahaha.

I'm laughing out loud because some of you are so cheap and love to haggle. You get what you pay for. Well in the previous case I guess you don't!

Knock on wood, this has never happened to me. I've never been scammed because I actually TALK to the chicas and wait until I get a good vibe with her. I've seen many mongers instantly jump all over chicas as soon as they see them. In addition, being drunk until you are damn near blind doesn't help. No matter how slushed I am, I keep my wits about me. If you have to drink a lot, I suggest you do it over the course if a couple of hours with the chica you are interested in.

Bottom line, treat the chicas nice and with respect. Step away from the ones that appear foul. No matter how bad you want to hit that putang.

I'll be there in three weeks. I'm at the Hispanola Villas. I hope the security is on point. FYI, I dislike the night guard at NG. This punk tried to play me on a previous trip. There is a lot of jealous chicos in Sosua with fake smiles and bs conversation. I don't fuck with any of them.

[QUOTE=IAlvsg; 1303298]Hi guys,

I'm tryin' to budget for a trip in Sosua and Cabarete. I asked for some explanations about a year ago, etc but finally been to Barcelona in Spain which was good. HAVE YOU A TRIP REPORT ON BARCELONA?

I try to include all expenses. For the girls, I know have a good idea but what about the food and drinks? SOSUA FOOD= CARRYOUT TO GOOD RESTAURANTS=$3 TO $12.

I'd like to know how much is a beer in bars, in discos for example? BAR BEER IS $2. 25 TO $2. 75.

How much is a glass of vodka? NOT SURE, MAYBE $4.

I may eat in Sosua and in Cabarete to. What is the average price of the Cabarete beach restaurants in the evening? CABARETE= $12.

Have a good day, thanks![/QUOTE]HAVE YOU A TRIP REPORT ON BARCELONA?

I try to include all expenses. For the girls, I know have a good idea but what about the food and drinks? SOSUA FOOD= CARRYOUT TO GOOD RESTAURANTS=$3 TO $12.

I'd like to know how much is a beer in bars, in discos for example? BAR BEER IS $2. 25 TO $2. 75.

How much is a glass of vodka? NOT SURE, MAYBE $4.

I may eat in Sosua and in Cabarete to. What is the average price of the Cabarete beach restaurants in the evening? CABARETE= $12

[QUOTE=Sidney;1303546]What is the average price of the Cabarete beach restaurants in the evening? CABARETE= $12[/QUOTE]Don't get much for 500 pesos on a Cabarete beach at night. Up to 1000 pesos for a proper meal with a couple of alcoholic drinks. Even more at Papi's or O'Shea.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1303554]Don't get much for 500 pesos on a Cabarete beach at night. Up to 1000 pesos for a proper meal with a couple of alcoholic drinks. Even more at Papi's or O'Shea.[/QUOTE]Thanks Charles Pooter. I prefer to note the 1000 pesos price to be sure to not be broke on place.

[QUOTE=Sidney; 1303546]HAVE YOU A TRIP REPORT ON BARCELONA?

I try to include all expenses. For the girls, I know have a good idea but what about the food and drinks? SOSUA FOOD= CARRYOUT TO GOOD RESTAURANTS=$3 TO $12.

I'd like to know how much is a beer in bars, in discos for example? BAR BEER IS $2. 25 TO $2. 75.

How much is a glass of vodka? NOT SURE, MAYBE $4.

I may eat in Sosua and in Cabarete to. What is the average price of the Cabarete beach restaurants in the evening? CABARETE= $12[/QUOTE]Thank you for this info Sidney but do you know if the price of a beer and a vodka with orange juice for example are higher in nightclubs like Classicos than in bars? 4$ looks to be very cheap for a vodka.

These drink prices are they the same in cabarete clubs or higher?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1303386]Hahaha.

I'm laughing out loud because some of you are so cheap and love to haggle. You get what you pay for. Well in the previous case I guess you don't!

Knock on wood, this has never happened to me. I've never been scammed because I actually TALK to the chicas and wait until I get a good vibe with her. I've seen many mongers instantly jump all over chicas as soon as they see them. In addition, being drunk until you are damn near blind doesn't help. No matter how slushed I am, I keep my wits about me. If you have to drink a lot, I suggest you do it over the course if a couple of hours with the chica you are interested in.

Bottom line, treat the chicas nice and with respect. Step away from the ones that appear foul. No matter how bad you want to hit that putang.

I'll be there in three weeks. I'm at the Hispanola Villas. I hope the security is on point. FYI, I dislike the night guard at NG. This punk tried to play me on a previous trip. There is a lot of jealous chicos in Sosua with fake smiles and bs conversation. I don't fuck with any of them.[/QUOTE]I don't think being arrogant, is the method either, Ah2, I respectfully disagree. On one hand you boast about never being 'played', but then you say The Night guard at Ng, tried to 'play you'. I understand, you were referring to' chicas playing you. But I get very annoyed when some guys, posts thier whole expieriences GOOD OR BAD, then other ' Super Mongers'chime in and boast How theyve never been scammed, because they ahem 'talk to the chicas for hours'and the have some magical 'Spidey Sense'to read chicas minds. Its a matter of time.

We are ALL vulnerable, No matter how much so called 'game' and conversation we think we have, luckily our being scammed' number hasn't come up. I whole heartedly agree theres things we can do, to protect ourselves, and minumize our chances, Also on the contrary the night 'watchieman or security guard' at Ng, saved my ass (Its a funny ass story actually) so him not playing me, does that mean, I'm better than you. I don't think so.

And I respectfully disagree with my friend Hillbilly I for one have NEVER EVER, been to prision or jail either here in the US or in the DR, but just because I have never seen the conditions of jail or prision, doesn't make me ignorant to the fact I never want to go there. But I have watched The Andy Griffith Show, (RIP) and saw the miserable conditions of Mayberry jail. (LOL!) Otis the town drunk had to endure pure hell, he even had access to his own jail cell key. And Don Knotts aka Deputy Barney Fiffe was hot on the case.

In October Ill be returning to Sosua, and my chica seeding system will be back in effect! I will have pictures and stories of the 'crime scene'on display, for all my fellow mongers interested in hearing of how I unleashed the Chocolate Jackhammer on dem putas.

I have a SW friend I meant at pacos in SD. She friended me on facebook. I had the booty one time and saw her on other trips but did not pursue. She wants me hang out with her when I come back. This is the part I like." popi I want it in my culo." Is this very popular in the DR. I have another DR chica who loves it in the ass. She was my first. What do my brothers think do they like it or do they think we want it? Honestly I do not know.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1303702]I have a SW friend I meant at pacos in SD. She friended me on facebook. I had the booty one time and saw her on other trips but did not pursue. She wants me hang out with her when I come back. This is the part I like." popi I want it in my culo." Is this very popular in the DR. I have another DR chica who loves it in the ass. She was my first. What do my brothers think do they like it or do they think we want it? Honestly I do not know.[/QUOTE]I have had sex with maybe 200 Dominican women and have never had a request for anal sex. However some years ago a friend of mine was running a brothel and a guy came in and picked a certain woman. However the woman decided his penis was too big for her, but said she would have anal sex with him, if he wished. Go figure that one out! In fact the guy didn't want that and settled for another woman.

It could be a way of avoiding pregnancy.

My overall impression is that it is not popular with chicas in the DR.

[QUOTE=IAlvsg; 1303298]Hi guys,

I'm tryin' to budget for a trip in Sosua and Cabarete. I asked for some explanations about a year ago, etc but finally been to Barcelona in Spain which was good.

I try to include all expenses. For the girls, I know have a good idea but what about the food and drinks?[/QUOTE]I was just looking at this the other day, and thought it might help ya out. It's Rocky's website with photos of their menu, and few drink prices. (click the free drink coupon as well)

[url]http://www.rockysbar.com/restaurant.htm[/url]

If you're on a budget then they also have some basic rooms with optional A / C too. I've never stayed in them, but on my next trip I'm planning on staying at the condo across the street. Even if you don't stay there, it's a good place to wander into for a drink. Plenty of guys hanging out that can point you to whatever you're looking for.

I am surprised. I am in my 50s and this is a new thing for me. I can honestly say my girl really likes it. The SW chica I have not had the pleasure I asked her what she wanted to do in the bed she said in the ass. My dick got hard right away. Maybe because they had so many guys in the pussy the ass is restricted for the guys they like. I have never indicated to her I wanted or liked anal. I am a rookie at anal but have it enjoyedit with my Sosua cupid friend.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1303733]I have had sex with maybe 200 Dominican women and have never had a request for anal sex. However some years ago a friend of mine was running a brothel and a guy came in and picked a certain woman. However the woman decided his penis was too big for her, but said she would have anal sex with him, if he wished. Go figure that one out! In fact the guy didn't want that and settled for another woman.

It could be a way of avoiding pregnancy.

My overall impression is that it is not popular with chicas in the DR.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IAlvsg; 1303298]I'd like to know how much is a beer in bars, in discos for example?

How much is a glass of vodka?

I may eat in Sosua and in Cabarete too. What is the average price of the Cabarete beach restaurants in the evening?

Have a good day, thanks[/QUOTE]As elsewhere the price of drinks depends on where you get them from. Cheapest places are supermarkets, colmadons, and liquor stores, but you can go to places like Latinos Minimarket and buy cold beer at store prices and then sit at a table outside to consume your purchase. About $1. 50 for a large (22 oz) beer. The prices then go up from there depending on the location with nightclubs and discos being the most expensive as essentially you are not paying for a beverage, but for the view, the ambience, and the fawning English-speaking wait-staff.

Vodka, as far as I know, is not sold by the glass. Mixed drinks in bars are more expensive, but not outrageously so, but again the highest prices are in discos and nightclubs. (I would not buy expensive drinks for chicas).

Cabarete beach restaurants are more expensive than most of the restaurants in Sosua, but the price of a meal will depend on what dish your order from the menu, whether you have a starter, a dessert, coffee, alcoholic beverages, etc. As the pricing is a la carte. Generally hamburgers are the cheapest items, but fish dishes work out a bit higher, and then if you want a more exotic entree like lobster or imported steak, the prices are even more. Again you are paying chair rental and for the "romantic" ambience at the beach. Also bear in mind that if you eat at American-themed corporate-type restaurants, you will probably pay more than if you eat at a family place run by an expatriate and his Dominican wife.

Anyhow, menus are displayed outside restaurants, so you can stroll around and see what the best value is.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1303702]I have a SW friend I meant at pacos in SD. She friended me on facebook. I had the booty one time and saw her on other trips but did not pursue. She wants me hang out with her when I come back. This is the part I like." popi I want it in my culo." Is this very popular in the DR. I have another DR chica who loves it in the ass. She was my first. What do my brothers think do they like it or do they think we want it? Honestly I do not know.[/QUOTE]I have a regular in Puerto Plata that I have been with many many times over the last seven or eight years. I have not aggressively sought out her ass but have made it clear to her that I want it. She told me her ass is virgin and she is saving it for the man that buys her a house. Needless to say I haven't had her ass. I have only had the ass of two girls in the DR and they both were girls on my first trip to BB's but I also don't make it a priority of mine either. Outside of one of the BB's girls I have never had a girl ask to be hit in the ass in the DR, Colombia yes.

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt; 1303663]I don't think being arrogant, is the method either, Ah2, I respectfully disagree. On one hand you boast about never being 'played', but then you say The Night guard at Ng, tried to 'play you'. I understand, you were referring to' chicas playing you. But I get very annoyed when some guys, posts thier whole expieriences GOOD OR BAD, then other ' Super Mongers'chime in and boast How theyve never been scammed, because they ahem 'talk to the chicas for hours'and the have some magical 'Spidey Sense'to read chicas minds. Its a matter of time.

We are ALL vulnerable, No matter how much so called 'game' and conversation we think we have, luckily our being scammed' number hasn't come up. I whole heartedly agree theres things we can do, to protect ourselves, and minumize our chances, Also on the contrary the night 'watchieman or security guard' at Ng, saved my ass (Its a funny ass story actually) so him not playing me, does that mean, I'm better than you. I don't think so.

In October Ill be returning to Sosua, and my chica seeding system will be back in effect! I will have pictures and stories of the 'crime scene'on display, for all my fellow mongers interested in hearing of how I unleashed the Chocolate Jackhammer on dem putas.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but I'm having a hard time understanding the point of your rant. Was the main purpose to take a shot at me? What did you find so arrogant? If anything, I try to assist newbies to adopt an approach that may lead to an overall pleasurable experience. Furthermore, I've only been to Sosua 4 times and bed no more than 30 chicas, but if the number was 200 then maybe I would have been scammed.

I feel fortunate to be in my position. Nowhere did I say that I will never be scammed. It might happen on my upcoming trip. However, I do believe there are certain things that can be done to decrease the likelihood of being in that situation. I've never wrecked a car before, but I also don't make it a habit to drive drunk. Will my arrogance cause me to eventually crash?

Could you do me a favor and provide the statistics on the ratio of scammed mongers to happy customers? I would like to apply some empirical data to my next argument.

Thanks!

Both girls are very experienced. In there minds maybe they have been saving their ass for th guy they care for. They both seem to honestly like me. I was PM by a guy here that my Sosua chica a may have worked at BB. She wears me out. She is open to toys lubes you name it. I avoided her once because she drains all my leche.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1303879]I have a regular in Puerto Plata that I have been with many many times over the last seven or eight years. I have not aggressively sought out her ass but have made it clear to her that I want it. She told me her ass is virgin and she is saving it for the man that buys her a house. Needless to say I haven't had her ass. I have only had the ass of two girls in the DR and they both were girls on my first trip to BB's but I also don't make it a priority of mine either. Outside of one of the BB's girls I have never had a girl ask to be hit in the ass in the DR, Colombia yes.[/QUOTE]

Jeezus fing christ you try and do anal with most latina women and its like screaming bloody fucking murder. I admit sometimes I like to try and mix it up and slip it in the backdoor but have never had much luck! I get the "Ni Intentas and the hay nooo duele!" and I am a very normal sized guy. I don't know if they think its dirty? Taboo? Too conservative for this kind of practice? Thats why I must put Brazil on my bucket list! LOL

[QUOTE=Joe happer; 1303744]I was just looking at this the other day, and thought it might help ya out. It's Rocky's website with photos of their menu, and few drink prices. (click the free drink coupon as well)

[url]http://www.rockysbar.com/restaurant.htm[/url]

If you're on a budget then they also have some basic rooms with optional A / C too. I've never stayed in them, but on my next trip I'm planning on staying at the condo across the street. Even if you don't stay there, it's a good place to wander into for a drink. Plenty of guys hanging out that can point you to whatever you're looking for.[/QUOTE]Ok.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1303870]As elsewhere the price of drinks depends on where you get them from. Cheapest places are supermarkets, colmadons, and liquor stores, but you can go to places like Latinos Minimarket and buy cold beer at store prices and then sit at a table outside to consume your purchase. About $1. 50 for a large (22 oz) beer. The prices then go up from there depending on the location with nightclubs and discos being the most expensive as essentially you are not paying for a beverage, but for the view, the ambience, and the fawning English-speaking wait-staff.

Vodka, as far as I know, is not sold by the glass. Mixed drinks in bars are more expensive, but not outrageously so, but again the highest prices are in discos and nightclubs. (I would not buy expensive drinks for chicas).

Cabarete beach restaurants are more expensive than most of the restaurants in Sosua, but the price of a meal will depend on what dish your order from the menu, whether you have a starter, a dessert, coffee, alcoholic beverages, etc. As the pricing is a la carte. Generally hamburgers are the cheapest items, but fish dishes work out a bit higher, and then if you want a more exotic entree like lobster or imported steak, the prices are even more. Again you are paying chair rental and for the "romantic" ambience at the beach. Also bear in mind that if you eat at American-themed corporate-type restaurants, you will probably pay more than if you eat at a family place run by an expatriate and his Dominican wife.

Anyhow, menus are displayed outside restaurants, so you can stroll around and see what the best value is.[/QUOTE]Concerning the restaurants, I kept in mind the indication of 1000 pesos to get a proper meal.

Concerning the drinks, I don't specially plan to buy alcohol in markets to get it cheaper. I imagine that some people know Clasico's and La passion here. How much is a beer there? Eventually, if you know it, how much is a vodka cocktail?

That's the same question but shorter and more precise.

Thanks

I have had a bit of luck with anal over the past 7 years. I have not asked for it but it was offered I think more as a reward or they were competing for a date and put it out there to seal the deal as it were.

When you are having paid sex, you can't just "try and mix it up and slip it in the backdoor". The nature of sexual acts and the price paid have to be negotiated ahead of time, otherwise you are setting yourself up for sexual battery charges. You think this is unlikely? Just read a recent report on this board where a woman returned with cops after a monger had, it is related, merely placed a friendly hand on her arm to steer her towards the door.

Guys, if you want anal sex, save yourselves trouble by being honest about what you want, and negotiating up front. You never know until you ask.

[quote=frannie; 1303902]when you are having paid sex, you can't just "try and mix it up and slip it in the backdoor". the nature of sexual acts and the price paid have to be negotiated ahead of time, otherwise you are setting yourself up for sexual battery charges. you think this is unlikely? just read a recent report on this board where a woman returned with cops after a monger had, it is related, merely placed a friendly hand on her arm to steer her towards the door.

guys, if you want anal sex, save yourselves trouble by being honest about what you want, and negotiating up front. you never know until you ask.[/quote]jeezus frannie you are paranoid, mechanical. you have to first keep in mind the type of relationship you have established with the chica, is it a first timer? do you have a good repoire with the chica, is she a regular that you can choose to be sexually adventerous without being bought up in charges? lol. sure no doubt that if you are looking explicitly for anal sex then for sure this needs to be brought up in the negotiation phase.

if things in sosua have gotten as bad as some people feel that's its going, where we are seeing more and more scammers and chicas crying bloody [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], battery and renegotiating after the deed and trying to get over, calling crooked police,"innocent gringos" in jail, extortion plots, then i really feel sorry about that. that place was much more charming and humble in the early 2000's

MHL, we must be shopping at different stores. A good number of Latinas (pros & nonpros alike) that I have dealt with go for anal. Colombia, DR, Peru. 3 days ago I met a Puerto Rican chick on a dating site. She came over 2 nights ago. I went and bought us some Popeyes chicken, we went back to my place, ate, and went upstairs and fucked. She came over last night and we went and bought a pizza, came back and ate, went upstairs and watched a couple of movies and fucked. And last night she let me hit the culo. I was fucking and decided to test it out with my finger. She didn't resist. But when I was about to put my dick in it she was like no. But didn't reject me putting Astroglide in. As I was fucking her ass I asked if she liked it and she said yes. I asked why she said no at first then. She came by rubbing her clit while I fucked her ass.

[QUOTE=Geolopes;1283380]Trying to re-establish the "Sosua" thread with this post. Let's see what happens.[/QUOTE]Hey I'll bite. Looking to be back in Sosua for the first time in over 2 years. Been in Medellin Colombia mongering for the last 2 years. Had to use my AA mile or lose them so thought POP was the place to be. Staying at the NG while in Sosua. I'm getting nervous after reading about the scams going on in Sosua. Would like the current prices of chicas for both ST and LT so I don't get any surprises. Are the girls still at the pool waiting for the gringos to pick them up inside the NG? Any Chicas that can be recommended as hard working none complainers and able to provide true PSE quality performances. Anybody there right now PM me so I can get the lowdown on the current conditions.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1303947]MHL, we must be shopping at different stores. A good number of Latinas (pros & nonpros alike) that I have dealt with go for anal. Colombia, DR, Peru. 3 days ago I met a Puerto Rican chick on a dating site. She came over 2 nights ago. I went and bought us some Popeyes chicken, we went back to my place, ate, and went upstairs and fucked. She came over last night and we went and bought a pizza, came back and ate, went upstairs and watched a couple of movies and fucked. And last night she let me hit the culo. I was fucking and decided to test it out with my finger. She didn't resist. But when I was about to put my dick in it she was like no. But didn't reject me putting Astroglide in. As I was fucking her ass I asked if she liked it and she said yes. I asked why she said no at first then. She came by rubbing her clit while I fucked her ass.[/QUOTE]Damn I wish I had that sometimes, anal is fun but not my priority. I too have been to all of thise countries but it hasn't come up, It wasn't discussed and I didn't go there at the moment with the putas. Its something I like from time to time with some regulars in the heat of the moment! Damn she bought over fresh popeyes for why'all and then bang? Sounds like heaven for you! Come to think of it me too! Jejejejejeje LOL

[quote=miamiheatluver; 1303923]jeezus frannie you are paranoid, mechanical. you have to first keep in mind the type of relationship you have established with the chica, is it a first timer? do you have a good repoire with the chica, is she a regular that you can choose to be sexually adventerous without being bought up in charges? lol. sure no doubt that if you are looking explicitly for anal sex then for sure this needs to be brought up in the negotiation phase.

if things in sosua have gotten as bad as some people feel that's its going, where we are seeing more and more scammers and chicas crying bloody [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], battery and renegotiating after the deed and trying to get over, calling crooked police,"innocent gringos" in jail, extortion plots, then i really feel sorry about that. that place was much more charming and humble in the early 2000's[/quote]well sure, if you have a relationship with the woman, that is different from one you just encountered and contracted for paid sex.

i don't think things have gotten that bad in sosua, but people do need to use some caution, especially if their spanish is not too good. newbies, especially, should not take things for granted

[quote=miamiheatluver; 1303923]jeezus frannie you are paranoid, mechanical. you have to first keep in mind the type of relationship you have established with the chica, is it a first timer? do you have a good repoire with the chica, is she a regular that you can choose to be sexually adventerous without being bought up in charges? lol. sure no doubt that if you are looking explicitly for anal sex then for sure this needs to be brought up in the negotiation phase.

if things in sosua have gotten as bad as some people feel that's its going, where we are seeing more and more scammers and chicas crying bloody [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], battery and renegotiating after the deed and trying to get over, calling crooked police,"innocent gringos" in jail, extortion plots, then i really feel sorry about that. that place was much more charming and humble in the early 2000's[/quote]as far as anal i have been offered that many times in my travels in latin america. of course i have tried it a few times, but it does not really seen to be any where as good as the pussy. i think with some guys it is more of a power trip than anything else. now if a girl you know for whatever reason likes it, and asks for it then i will bite the bullit, and go along with it, but only if it is a freebe. when i am the pay master then i choose the terms.

as far as the scams being talked about i must admit it is a big concern with me. in the past i have been beaten for cash, and had a ring stolen, and one time in mde was drugged (no more having any drinks with a girl in my room ). all things considered i now fear most of all these scams where the girl has a police partner. to face the prospect of jail, and a big ransom to get out of the trouble is terrible. sure you can be careful, and all that, but if it is a outright setup then all your precautions will be in vain. i think if this is the new trend in the dr then i will hunt elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1303992]Well sure, if you have a relationship with the woman, that is different from one you just encountered and contracted for paid sex.

I don't think things have gotten that bad in Sosua, but people do need to use some caution, especially if their Spanish is not too good. Newbies, especially, should not take things for granted[/QUOTE]I just spent a really long weekend in Sosua. It was surprising how the businesses were struggling, but I had a great time. It was not heard to find really great girls. It is a buyers market. I pulled one of the best girls ever out of Lou's Shark Bar. There are always a couple of girls in there. He does an excellent job of screening out the scammers and drama queens.

After skipping it the last several trips, I stayed at the New Garden. It was all that you would expect out of a hotel in Sosua. The guard was professional at night, and they had a bartender who was available to get you a drink when you got back. The girls that were available on site seemed better than in the past, but I did not try any of them out.

I agree that everyone needs to be cautious in Sosua, especially people who are new to this. On the other hand, I think people tend to over think the process. You are on vacation, so you should have a good time. Spot a girl you think it cute and offer to buy her a drink. By the end of the drink, you will have a good judgement on her. After you have bought a hand full of girls drinks, you are going to know which one you like best. Unless she is a real stunner, she will probably still be around.

My last four thoughts:

1. The TL is trying to go a new direction. That is apparent with their signs pushing sushi, salmon, and dozens of other expensive food items.

2. The pizza place right across the street from the TL has great pizza. It is cheap, and no one bothers you there.

3. I think it is great if you want to drink high-end liquor, but it is not necessary to pick up girls. The girls are not into you, because you are cool. They are motivated by money. I cannot imagine a local girl turning down a Presidente or Cuba libre. But it such girl exists down there, I want to avoid her.

4. I think your chances of getting into trouble are a lot higher if you are drunk out of your mind. There are so many people that are in that condition on a typical evening, that people (girls) who want to cause trouble avoid all the less intoxicated people. Again, these are just my opinions.

[QUOTE=Joe happer; 1303744]I was just looking at this the other day, and thought it might help ya out. It's Rocky's website with photos of their menu, and few drink prices. (click the free drink coupon as well)

[url]http://www.rockysbar.com/restaurant.htm[/url]

If you're on a budget then they also have some basic rooms with optional A / C too. I've never stayed in them, but on my next trip I'm planning on staying at the condo across the street. Even if you don't stay there, it's a good place to wander into for a drink. Plenty of guys hanging out that can point you to whatever you're looking for.[/QUOTE]One more place to check out is [url]http://www.maryrosedr.com/[/url] I stayed at the place in the no frills apartment with out A / C but they have other apartments with A / C.

[QUOTE=IAlvsg; 1303896]Ok.

Concerning the restaurants, I kept in mind the indication of 1000 pesos to get a proper meal.

Concerning the drinks, I don't specially plan to buy alcohol in markets to get it cheaper. I imagine that some people know Clasico's and La passion here. How much is a beer there? Eventually, if you know it, how much is a vodka cocktail?

That's the same question but shorter and more precise.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I'm don't drink, so I can't help with that, but check-out Casa Valeria for dinner one night. For my money, it was the best in Sosua. Pretty intimate and personable. The owners are great and I'm sure you will enjoy the meal.

[QUOTE=IAlvsg; 1303896]Ok.

Concerning the restaurants, I kept in mind the indication of 1000 pesos to get a proper meal.

Concerning the drinks, I don't specially plan to buy alcohol in markets to get it cheaper. I imagine that some people know Clasico's and La passion here. How much is a beer there? Eventually, if you know it, how much is a vodka cocktail?

That's the same question but shorter and more precise.

Thanks[/QUOTE]1000 is ridiculous! You can get a great meal for 300 to 400.

[QUOTE=IAlvsg; 1303896]Ok.

Concerning the restaurants, I kept in mind the indication of 1000 pesos to get a proper meal.

Concerning the drinks, I don't specially plan to buy alcohol in markets to get it cheaper. I imagine that some people know Clasico's and La passion here. How much is a beer there? Eventually, if you know it, how much is a vodka cocktail?

That's the same question but shorter and more precise.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Road$1000 will feed a family of four locally, NOT in Sosua!

A Presidente is $RD100 at Passions, $RD150 in Classicos, $RD70 in Rumba Bar.

I buy servicio de Ron (bottle service) if drinking alcohol, a 375ml Barcelo Anejo 20oz coke + ice is like $RD 225 Pesos + TIP in Rumba. (four nice drinks)

I think a Bottle of Goose + mixers is RD$3500 in Classicos. Too rich for my tastes, but split a few ways is the way to go. DO NOT RUN A TAB there!!!


THIS FUCKING AUTO CORRECT IS KILLING ME!!!!!

RD = RD PESOS not ROAD

[QUOTE=IAlvsg; 1303896]Ok.

Concerning the restaurants, I kept in mind the indication of 1000 pesos to get a proper meal.

Concerning the drinks, I don't specially plan to buy alcohol in markets to get it cheaper. I imagine that some people know Clasico's and La passion here. How much is a beer there? Eventually, if you know it, how much is a vodka cocktail?

That's the same question but shorter and more precise.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Here are some menus for you:

[url]http://www.britanniapubsosua.com/menu/dinner/[/url]

[url]http://www.rockysbar.com/restaurant.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.laparrilladasteakhouse.com/MENU---MEN-.html[/url]

Not suggesting you eat at any of these places, but the menus give you a general idea of the price structure, depending on your taste in food. I'm not big on Pasions or Clasicos so I don't know the drink prices well. I think the prices at Rumba are decent if you drink beer.

Hi all,

First time poster here so.

Ray and Sue's place, the Britannia, has all day breakfasts (for those of us that like to start our day late) and the prices are more than reasonable for the strip.

All the food, all the time, is great and we eat there probably 50% of the time we're there.

Check out the menu and prices:

[url]http://www.britanniapubsosua.com/[/url]

The Jolly Roger food is very hit and miss, I find.

The tapas place across the street is not bad either but has weird hours and never seems to be open when you're hungry.

Just talking Clisante food now, not the rest of town.

Heading back in late Dec, early Jan for a couple of months.

Haven't decided where to stay after Jenny took us for a ride last time so any recommendations gratefully accepted.

Thanks for answer my early questions guys.

- For food, I like Vache when it's quiet, The pirate restaurant or Toro. Good food for 400 a meal.

- The farmacy near those restaurants does sell La Pela (cials 20) for 50 pesos.

- Passion really has better girls than CMP.

- Businesses seem to be having a hard time here, maybe why some girls are getting crazy.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1303880]Sorry, but I'm having a hard time understanding the point of your rant. Was the main purpose to take a shot at me? What did you find so arrogant? If anything, I try to assist newbies to adopt an approach that may lead to an overall pleasurable experience. Furthermore, I've only been to Sosua 4 times and bed no more than 30 chicas, but if the number was 200 then maybe I would have been scammed.

I feel fortunate to be in my position. Nowhere did I say that I will never be scammed. It might happen on my upcoming trip. However, I do believe there are certain things that can be done to decrease the likelihood of being in that situation. I've never wrecked a car before, but I also don't make it a habit to drive drunk. Will my arrogance cause me to eventually crash?

Could you do me a favor and provide the statistics on the ratio of scammed mongers to happy customers? I would like to apply some empirical data to my next argument.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Empirical Data. Thats a pretty BIG WORD. My bad Ah2 maybe I got you all wrong, but I read over and over, How a monger encounters a certain situation, then instead of us showing empathy, We get these 'Monday Morning Quarterbacks, It just that you started out your post by 'laughing out loud' So it kind of set me off. I have no problem with you per say, but I get these Super Monger'and they have All the Magical Answers'.

I personally think, Its cool to express one self, and ALL OPINIONS, are valid, I guess it kind of, came off kind of brass, but once again my apologies, maybe I just read way to much into it, but then again NO ONE GIVES A SHIT WHAT I THINK' anyways. LOL! Its not How Much a Persons Makes. Its How Much you 'Keep'. So if a monger wants to be a cheap bastard then thats there perogative.

What works for you, may not work for another monger, personalities, looks, confidence. Etc etc. But shout out to Tomjackin, Coolie High, SavePro321, West Sideeee! All Day Everyday. And Peace too you Ah2.

Thank you guys for the info: Buscemi, Orgasmico, LeroyUS, Klove48.

Thank you Buscemi for the precison.

I may book a hotel in Cabarete for some days. Do you know if it's easy and not dangerous to get a taxi to go from Sosua to Cabarete in the late night (1am-4am)?

I read the price was about 15$ to 20$, don't know if it's still the price.

[QUOTE=Misa0; 1304109]Thanks for answer my early questions guys.

- For food, I like Vache when it's quiet, The pirate restaurant or Toro. Good food for 400 a meal.

- The farmacy near those restaurants does sell La Pela (cials 20) for 50 pesos.

- Passion really has better girls than CMP.

- Businesses seem to be having a hard time here, maybe why some girls are getting crazy.[/QUOTE]Not sure what you mean by 'the pirate restaurant or Toro'

[QUOTE=IAlvsg; 1304253]Do you know if it's easy and not dangerous to get a taxi to go from Sosua to Cabarete in the late night (1am-4am)?

I read the price was about 15$ to 20$, don't know if it's still the price.[/QUOTE]Take a publico, but rent the ENTIRE car for RD$200, you are buying all six seats @ RD$30 / seat. Make sure you negotiate before getting in the car, or you will get "gringoed"!

You need to cross the highway to the publico depot heading East.

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1304322]Take a publico, but rent the ENTIRE car for Road$200, you are buying all six seatsatRoad$30 / seat. Make sure you negotiate before getting in the car, or you will get "gringoed"!

You need to cross the highway to the publico depot heading East.[/QUOTE]Or even cheaper for 100 pesos you can buy the entire front seat. If you do rent the entire car they will often take you to where you want to go if you tip them a little more.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1304326]Or even cheaper for 100 pesos you can buy the entire front seat. If you do rent the entire car they will often take you to where you want to go if you tip them a little more.[/QUOTE]That is fine during the day, I do not want drunk thugs in the back seat of a publico @3AM on the way to Cabarete, not a smart idea to share a car late night, daytime is fine.

[QUOTE=Buscemi;1304328]That is fine during the day, I do not want drunk thugs in the back seat of a publico @3AM on the way to Cabarete, not a smart idea to share a car late night, daytime is fine.[/QUOTE]You are correct, better safe than sorry. I have driven my own car for the past few years in the DR so my comments are based on my experiences almost five years ago when I used to use publicos! Thanks for keeping it current amigo.

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1304322]Take a publico, but rent the ENTIRE car for Road$200, you are buying all six seatsatRoad$30 / seat. Make sure you negotiate before getting in the car, or you will get "gringoed"!

You need to cross the highway to the publico depot heading East.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Llttf;1304326]Or even cheaper for 100 pesos you can buy the entire front seat. If you do rent the entire car they will often take you to where you want to go if you tip them a little more.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Buscemi;1304328]That is fine during the day, I do not want drunk thugs in the back seat of a publico @3AM on the way to Cabarete, not a smart idea to share a car late night, daytime is fine.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Llttf;1304334]You are correct, better safe than sorry. I have driven my own car for the past few years in the DR so my comments are based on my experiences almost five years ago when I used to use publicos! Thanks for keeping it current amigo.[/QUOTE]For sure a publico would not be safe.

What about getting a taxi? Is it possible between 1am-4am to get a "real taxi" and safe?

Hi,

Can I bring with me sex toys without problems in the airport at Puerto Plata and Santo Domingo. I report my experiences when arrives at home.

Are legal the sex toys in Dominican Republic?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Daslme;1303960]Hey I'll bite. Looking to be back in Sosua for the first time in over 2 years. Been in Medellin Colombia mongering for the last 2 years. Had to use my AA mile or lose them so thought POP was the place to be. Staying at the NG while in Sosua. I'm getting nervous after reading about the scams going on in Sosua. Would like the current prices of chicas for both ST and LT so I don't get any surprises. Are the girls still at the pool waiting for the gringos to pick them up inside the NG? Any Chicas that can be recommended as hard working none complainers and able to provide true PSE quality performances. Anybody there right now PM me so I can get the lowdown on the current conditions.[/QUOTE]For what it's worth, breakdown of what I paid in Sosua over the last 3 months:

3 girls at 1000 pesos. All Haitians somehow.

10 girls at 1200 pesos.

10 girls at 1500 pesos.

2 girls at 2000.

I usually leave tips between 200 and 500. Never had a single problem.

All were picked on the street, in bars or at a nightclub. Stayed at NG twice, but never picked a girl at NG. I always tell them "for a few hours" (short term). All 25 years max (most under 22) , slim to very slim, small breasts more than big boobs. Long straight black hair a plus.

[QUOTE=LeroyUS; 1304048]One more place to check out is.

[url]http://www.maryrosedr.com/[/url]

I stayed at the place in the no frills apartment with out A / C but they have other apartments with A / C.[/QUOTE]Only US$25 a night

[QUOTE=IAlvsg; 1304348]For sure a publico would not be safe.

What about getting a taxi? Is it possible between 1am-4am to get a "real taxi" and safe?[/QUOTE]A publico is safe as long as it has headlights and you rent the entire car, there is also a "Tourist" Taxi stand across from Classicos, just past Rumba bar with the rates posted, probably $20 or $25 to Cabarete these days.

[QUOTE=Jackss; 1304405]Hi,

Can I bring with me sex toys without problems in the airport at Puerto Plata and Santo Domingo. I report my experiences when arrives at home.

Are legal the sex toys in Dominican Republic?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Yes it is OK to bring sex toys and you can also buy them in Sosua on Pedro Clisante a fashion shop next to the dive shop I think and the shop was called "Kerils Fashions" or something like that. You ask the guy in the shop and he has a box full of toys that he will show you. I took my girl in the place so she could pick what she wanted. I don't like to carry that shit incase the guys want to check my bags at the airport but I don't think it's a big deal.

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1304693]Essentially, I was cueing in on the lordosis brain software of the female, preparing her for mounting.[/QUOTE]Now, there's a new one, Lu. One more trick to master.

[QUOTE=Buscemi;1304692]A publico is safe as long as it has headlights and you rent the entire car, there is also a "Tourist" Taxi stand across from Classicos, just past Rumba bar with the rates posted, probably $20 or $25 to Cabarete these days.[/QUOTE]Thank you for "tourist" taxi information. The publico are available even at night?

Hey Lugalzaggizi,

I read the same story in Penthouse Forum in 1978. Thanks for bring back the memory.

Radpoker

Does anybody have any experience picking up a girl in Sosua to be with a couple? A girlfriend of mine that is into girls is coming to spend a weekend with me in Sosua (I will be there for 3 weeks starting July 24th) and she already indicated that she would love to pick up a girl to join us in the bedroom. Any advice is more than welcome!

I'll be in sosua for 10 days from July 27. August 5 I never stay in sosua for that long I always spent a weekend. Can we guys tell me how it is during the week days and what can I do to keep my self busy so I won't get borde?

I will be in Sosua for 3 weeks starting July 24th. A girlfriend of mine from where I live will come to join me for 3 days. Since she likes girls, she already told me that she would like to find a girl to join us for some fun in the bedroom. Does anybody has any experience with picking up girls in Sosua to be with a couple? Any advice will be more than welcome!

Self aggrandize Much?

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1304693]When we got to the room I showered and walked over to her, taking my towel off in front of her. She put my shaved cock and balls into mouth and said muy bueno. She already saw my athletic physique at the poolside yesterday, effectuating sexual attraction towards me. What is ironic about sex workers is that their sexuality is like that of men- since there is no real chance of any long-term emotional attachments arising with most of their clients they might as well focus purely on the physicality of the man. The more attractive the man is the less 'work' the commercial or transactional sexual interlude will be. The more unattractive the man is the more revolting will be the experience, probably sickening in many instances. She sucked and licked my genitals with much enthusiasm. I then threw her down on the bed and stuck my tongue deep inside her mouth, pressing my cock up against her pussy forcefully while pulling her body closer to mine. Essentially, I was cueing in on the lordosis brain software of the female, preparing her for mounting. After deep French kissing I attacked her breasts with my mouth. After savoring her ample breasts I slid my tongue down and licked her pussy with vehement enthusiasm. She was quite sexually aroused and had another go at sucking my cock, taking it by storm. The MILFs may not be as attractive as women in the 18-25- year-old category, but they suck much better dick and get more aroused during sex. The neuroscientists who wrote Two Billion Wicked Thoughts delve into this point, stating that women between 27-45 are much more easily aroused and have more frequent non-emotionally attached sexual liaisons. She seemed to be enjoying getting her pussy and asshole eaten out as well as sucking my dick, which certainly could be characterized as a non-emotionally attached sexual liaison by the authors of Two Billion Wicked Thoughts. In my mind it was a straight up commercial sexual liaison. She really was enthusiastic about manhandling my balls while she was sucking my cock, without any qualms about rubbing my perineum and anus with her fingers all the while moaning wildly. The moaning really enhances the oral sex experience. Whether she was honestly enjoying sucking my dick or putting up an act was of no consequence in terms of boosting my self-esteem, especially considering the fact that the frequency of blow jobs accrued in the States was sporadic if not nil.[/QUOTE]

I think the lack of oral attention in the US and the abundance of it in the DR is inversely proportional to how well they understand you. You may have more success if you spent as much time working on your self confidence as you do on your vocabulary, I think your reviews would be received better if you dial it back a few notches.

[QUOTE=Flsailor;1304904]I will be in Sosua for 3 weeks starting July 24th. A girlfriend of mine from where I live will come to join me for 3 days. Since she likes girls, she already told me that she would like to find a girl to join us for some fun in the bedroom. Does anybody has any experience with picking up girls in Sosua to be with a couple? Any advice will be more than welcome![/QUOTE]Most working girls in Sosua will "join" the two of you for bedroom fun, I find that most, when it comes down to actual lesbian action are fakers and back away. Make sure you interview and actually test out the girl's interaction before you waste your time. If they make out at the bar you have a keeper! No problem getting two girls to blow you, but lesbo action takes a little work. If you don't mind paying up a few Pesos, there are a few sets of Passions' chicas that will satisfy your urge for girl on girl playtime, talk to Peter or Mariella @ Passions.

You may want to consider going to Black Beards you would have many options and the prices are fixed and good. If you talk to management that provide you with what you are looking for and your girl can choose with no presure. If your girl is ready this is hard to beat. I have a chica in Sosua I use to bang who is bi. I night at BB for a foursome is on my bucket list.

[QUOTE=Buscemi;1305026]Most working girls in Sosua will "join" the two of you for bedroom fun, I find that most, when it comes down to actual lesbian action are fakers and back away. Make sure you interview and actually test out the girl's interaction before you waste your time. If they make out at the bar you have a keeper! No problem getting two girls to blow you, but lesbo action takes a little work. If you don't mind paying up a few Pesos, there are a few sets of Passions' chicas that will satisfy your urge for girl on girl playtime, talk to Peter or Mariella @ Passions.[/QUOTE]

During the week Sosua is slower but there is action. In the day relaxing at the beach is a entertaining. There always a little talent walking around. Classicos rocks every night. I would consider finding a keeper and wifing up a few days. Having a good fuck buddy can be nice. 10 days is a long time any where. Consider a day at black beards in puerto plato or may be hop a bus to Santo Domingo for site seeing. I would not stay in Sosua all 10 days. There is only so much juice in a can. You will empty fast in Sosua.

[QUOTE=Jarmondy;1304901]I'll be in sosua for 10 days from July 27. August 5 I never stay in sosua for that long I always spent a weekend. Can we guys tell me how it is during the week days and what can I do to keep my self busy so I won't get borde?[/QUOTE]C

[QUOTE=OldKool; 1305054]During the week Sosua is slower but there is action. In the day relaxing at the beach is a entertaining. There always a little talent walking around. Classicos rocks every night. I would consider finding a keeper and wifing up a few days. Having a good fuck buddy can be nice. 10 days is a long time any where. Consider a day at black beards in puerto plato or may be hop a bus to Santo Domingo for site seeing. I would not stay in Sosua all 10 days. There is only so much juice in a can. You will empty fast in Sosua.

C[/QUOTE]Every time I go to sosua I always come back with no energy because I always have 5 or 4 girls a day but I always want to spend more days this trip will be my 4th trip in less then 5 month I finally have my vacation I wanted to stay for 2 Weeks but I think thats a force thats why I go for 10 days.

I wonder how much money I need for 10 days and sosua? Abt 3 girls a day + drink and food hotel not included.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1303226]It was not me who was in prison in the DR, it was a guy I was talking to who is serving 1 year post-prison probation before he can return to the US. I am sure the PP jail is very unpleasant, but I doubt whether many people on this board have seen it, or taken photographs of it. It is just the opinion of one guy who had been in prison in the US and in the DR. I was surprised too when he said that, but since he had been telling me that he shanked a guy in Rijker's Island, I though it was best not to tell him he was a liar. When I see him again, I will ask him to get in touch with you.

So you are saying that these guys who helped out the wrongly accused guy had all been in the PP jail themselves? That is an interesting twist to the story that Pooter did not have.[/QUOTE]Coming tomorrow a complete update on my visit to Lavoratos the largest prison in the DR I understand that I will be walking hrough the prison to visit my novia's brother. I am sure this will not be for the faint of heart. Will report back after I get out. Will tell you what conditions I see. Hopefully, my report will tell everyone to never do something stupid in the DR.

[QUOTE=Jarmondy;1304901]I'll be in sosua for 10 days from July 27. August 5 I never stay in sosua for that long I always spent a weekend. Can we guys tell me how it is during the week days and what can I do to keep my self busy so I won't get borde?[/QUOTE]I have to agree with kool, ten days is a long time to be in just Sosua unless your going with a group of friends. My last Sosua venturing by myself forced me to go out to find things to do. Afterall I can only stay in a hotel room fuking chicks but for so long. If your active you can take a trip to visit the falls, go zip lining or walk around PP. They great thing is there are always chics giving you that look and it makes the hunt even better.

Sosua can feel like a ghost town during the day, as it seems its always the same people who are around, beggers, change guys and hungry kids people I try to avoid.

Have fun man.

[QUOTE=Jarmondy;1304901]I'll be in sosua for 10 days from July 27. August 5 I never stay in sosua for that long I always spent a weekend. Can we guys tell me how it is during the week days and what can I do to keep my self busy so I won't get borde?[/QUOTE]J,

I'll be there Aug 1-6 staying in two Villas with my buds. We will put together at least one poolside BBQ. PM me if you have any interest on connecting. You seem like a cool dude.

In 3 days you can do 10 girls without breaking a sweat. However your balls will be empty. Find some other entertainment while you recharge. Plan ahead by reading this site for ideas. I like having a fuck buddy to be with.

[QUOTE=LoveFiveStar; 1305165]I have to agree with kool, ten days is a long time to be in just Sosua unless your going with a group of friends. My last Sosua venturing by myself forced me to go out to find things to do. Afterall I can only stay in a hotel room fuking chicks but for so long. If your active you can take a trip to visit the falls, go zip lining or walk around PP. They great thing is there are always chics giving you that look and it makes the hunt even better.

Sosua can feel like a ghost town during the day, as it seems its always the same people who are around, beggers, change guys and hungry kids people I try to avoid.

Have fun man.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Revere;1305130]Coming tomorrow a complete update on my visit to Lavoratos the largest prison in the DR I understand that I will be walking hrough the prison to visit my novia's brother. I am sure this will not be for the faint of heart. Will report back after I get out. Will tell you what conditions I see. Hopefully, my report will tell everyone to never do something stupid in the DR.[/QUOTE]Good luck with that. When I worked at a maximum security prison in Florida to get to (or from) my place of work I had to walk about 250 yards across a wide open grassy area that usually had groups of inmates hanging around in the daytime hours, and no guards in sight. At first I was not very enthusiastic about this, but eventually got to know what a great group of friendly murderers, gangsters, and drug dealers we had, and was less fearful as I knew that if anyone bothered me, they would probably lose remission time.

A year after I left there a female officer was killed during an abortive escape attempt.

[url]http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/fci/charlotteguard.html[/url]

You will be fine.

[QUOTE=Jarmondy;1304901]I'll be in sosua for 10 days from July 27. August 5 I never stay in sosua for that long I always spent a weekend. Can we guys tell me how it is during the week days and what can I do to keep my self busy so I won't get borde?[/QUOTE]I you rent a car you can always go to Playa Rio San Juan. It is about 45 min drive from Cabarete going west. It is a very nice beach and you can get some of the food vendors to set up a chair for you at the beach and have some fresh fish or lobsters cook for you right there on the beach. I also saw online some great reviews of a tour operator called NJOY. I am planning to contact them when I am there to spend a day fishing and snorkeling. I will be there from July 24 to August 14th. PM if you want to get together for a beer.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1305239]Good luck with that. When I worked at a maximum security prison in Florida to get to (or from) my place of work I had to walk about 250 yards across a wide open grassy area that usually had groups of inmates hanging around in the daytime hours, and no guards in sight. At first I was not very enthusiastic about this, but eventually got to know what a great group of friendly murderers, gangsters, and drug dealers we had, and was less fearful as I knew that if anyone bothered me, they would probably lose remission time.

A year after I left there a female officer was killed during an abortive escape attempt.

[url]http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/fci/charlotteguard.html[/url]

You will be fine.[/QUOTE]Frannie thanks for those words of encouragement because I go in a couple of hours and I am now asking myself WTF am I doing. Again, I am never afraid to share my crazy decisions on this board good and bad. Also, just in my novia said the man that controlls the block likes her, but he is harmless again a good girl who is a non pro. Just has a messed up brother. I hear this guy has a flat screen tv in his cell, runs a pawn shop in jail and walks around with two body guards. He is doing 60 years for killing two policer officers. I will write my report on Gogo forum as I am sure most mongers do not really care to hear about.

Just another "data point"; this is first-hand and went down last Friday.

Had been on- and off w / a chica for three weeks but had declined her company over the last several days. She knew that I was departing the next day, and felt she deserved more money for our time together. I politely declined the request and left the strip at 2 am w / another female friend in tow.

At 9:20 am the next morning there is a knock on my door (I was still in bed) , and I am being served w / a Notice to Appear at 10 am at the fiscalia to sort out the dispute. Immediately contacted friends (expats, and Dominicans) who advised me to ignore the Notice. What would happen is another Notice to Appear some three-five days later, and then eventually a third Notice. By that time, of course, I would be long gone.

Returned to my apartment to finish packing for my afternoon flight. At 10:45 am (!) , another knock on the door. This time Policia Nacional w / an Arrest Warrant, and accompanied by the other party (chica). On the way to Sosua's city hall, PN stops in a quiet side street and suggests that the girl and I settle things amenably here and there, thus negating the need to stand in front of the judge. I offered RDP 5k, she wanted 30k, and eventually we settled for 10k (plus an extra 1k for my newly found PN friends.) Total damage 11, 000 pesos.

Of course, there are a lot more details to the story and as to how the transaction unfolded. But importantly, I wasn't willing to argue in front of a judge over a difference of 5, 000 pesos, and miss my flight. And maybe also find out that she wasn't really 18, as she had claimed.

All in all, it was handled professionally by all parties involved. And I see it no different than a traffic ticket in the US; one handles the situation like an adult and plays along, and everything works out fine for all involved. Or one can insist on being 100% in the right, and the situation can escalate and get very ugly (and expensive) in a hurry.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1302664]Firstly this story was witnessed in most of its stages by numerous reliable witnesses so it is no urban legend. The one thing we don't know first-hand is the most critical part, what exactly transpired in the privacy of the monger's room.

More generally your comments are way off target.

Yes, the chicas are afraid of the police, but that makes it all the more likely that this sort of scam will happen. You can bet your life that the chica saw very little of the US$3500. The bulk would have gone to the lawyer and one or more cops and other officials. But even if she only got US$500 that would still be a good payday for her (19500 pesos). She didn't just go looking for a cop and a lawyer. She would have already known reliably bent ones and they may have pulled similar stunts before. After this success they and other "teams" will be keen to try their luck, so watch out.

Tourists may be precious to the DR but the lowlife on the streets of Sosua don't take that attitude. We are just targets and marks to them. And local Dominicans not benefitting from the sex-trade despise us and want us out of the town. The tiny contribution that the gringo sex trade makes to the DR's overall economy is not worth the way it smears the country's reputation, especially now that the US and many international organisations are controlled by, or in terror of, puritanical religious loonies.

Cops will not fuck with respectable tourists in the AIs or going around in organized tours but they have no hesitation in doing so with loners off the tourist beat or the despised mongers of Sosua. The PN in the DR are now totally out of control and there is no effective chain of authority or discipline so the street cops think they can get away with anything, especially if they are desperate for money or on drugs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Don Antonio; 1305466]Returned to my apartment to finish packing for my afternoon flight. At 10:45 am (!) , another knock on the door. This time Policia Nacional w / an Arrest Warrant, and accompanied by the other party (chica). On the way to Sosua's city hall, PN stops in a quiet side street and suggests that the girl and I settle things amenably here and there, thus negating the need to stand in front of the judge. I offered RDP 5k, she wanted 30k, and eventually we settled for 10k (plus an extra 1k for my newly found PN friends.) Total damage 11, 000 pesos.

All in all, it was handled professionally by all parties involved.[/QUOTE]I understand the predicament you were in, but there was nothing "professional" about this transaction. You got straight up extorted.

How do you go from telling a puta "no thanks" to the broad showing up at your apartment door with a policeman? At least tell us what the hoe was claiming you did to her or what the policeman was charging you with!

What the fuck is going on down there (in Sosua) these days? Photos of the skanks that are pulling this shit would be helpful as well. Y'all dudes (especially all the newbies showing up here asking/begging/pleading for info and not contributing a fucking thing back to the forum post-trip) need to stop withholding info and help us put these bytches on blast.

[b]I'm calling for a new mongering rule:[/b] before you and a chica get busy you need to snap a photo (fully clothed so she won't protest) of this broad as soon as you get into the room and before she gets fully undressed. That way if shit goes South with this broad later you can at least post a photo of her here and warn the brotherhood so that we can spread the word. Shit, get creative: if you are talking to a chica at a bar and determine she is the one you are taking back to the spot (your room), signal to your wingman that she's the one you are taking have him whip out his cell phone, zone in, and snap one of her on the sly (make sure to remind him to turn the flash off else he gives himself away). Even better: pose with the broad like she is your new found novia and have your wingman take a "couples in love" photo of the two of you. No wingman? Politely tap a fellow monger on the shoulder and ask him to snap a photo of you and your "new found love". You can always edit your face out of the photo if need be. We will start a "Wall of Shame" up in here!

Any chica not willing to let you snap a photo of her fully clothed, kick the hoe out and assume the broad was just going to try and set you up. If this is the shit they are colluding with one another behind the scenes with, then fuck them: let their assess starve.

[quote=don antonio; 1305466]i offered rdp 5k, she wanted 30k, and eventually we settled for 10k (plus an extra 1k for my newly found pn friends.) total damage 11, 000 pesos.

of course, there are a lot more details to the story and as to how the transaction unfolded. but importantly, i wasn't willing to argue in front of a judge over a difference of 5, 000 pesos, and miss my flight. and maybe also find out that [b]she wasn't really 18, as she had claimed[/b].[/quote]if the reason she was extorting you for 30k is because she is **** (you've offered up a hint that you purposefully did not check her cedula) then we definitely do not want / need to see any photos of this broad.

just be lucky you didn't end up like this guy:

[quote=revere;1305565]
before i hit the yard, i passed by the administrative offices and i saw a european man standing by himself around 50 and he just looked llike all hope was lost. i looked him in the eye and he looked at me and i truly felt sad for him. i just could not imagine what he was going through. this is no place for a foreigner.

...he was given 10 years for having sex with a 15 year girl. when i left to walk back out he was in the exact same spot that i first saw him three hours ago he had not moved. by himself looking hopeless. they got him good and in there no one will save you. you are on your own.

[/quote]

[b]revere's la victoria prison visit (in gogo's forum):[/b]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3144-mr-gogo-in-the-dominican-republic&p=1305565&viewfull=1#post1305565[/url]

[QUOTE}Of course, there are a lot more details to the story and as to how the transaction unfolded. But importantly, I wasn't willing to argue in front of a judge over a difference of 5, 000 pesos, and miss my flight. And maybe also find out that she wasn't really 18, as she had claimed.

All in all, it was handled professionally by all parties involved. And I see it no different than a traffic ticket in the US; one handles the situation like an adult and plays along, and everything works out fine for all involved. Or one can insist on being 100% in the right, and the situation can escalate and get very ugly (and expensive) in a hurry.[/QUOTE]

Likening your experience to getting a traffic ticket in the USA is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on these boards. You could have easily ended up like the European guy in Revere's report.

One more report of someone being set up like this and I'm limiting my travels to my namesake in Colombia, fuck it.

[QUOTE=Flsailor;1305358]I you rent a car you can always go to Playa Rio San Juan.[/QUOTE]I cannot see the point of renting a car just to go to Rio San Juan when you can go on the guagua for a couple of dollars. However there are a number of more secluded beaches before you get to Rio San Juan which you would need a car for. But these are places to go with a friend and a couple of chicas, not by yourself.

Good read,"Justice System in the Dominican Republic."

[url]http://open.salon.com/blog/timotuck/2011/04/28/justice_system_in_the_dominican_republic[/url]

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1305759]Likening your experience to getting a traffic ticket in the USA is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on these boards. You could have easily ended up like the European guy in Revere's report.

One more report of someone being set up like this and I'm limiting my travels to my namesake in Colombia, fuck it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Don Antonio; 1305466]. Eventually we settled for 10k (plus an extra 1k for my newly found PN friends.) Total damage 11, 000 pesos.

And maybe also find out that she wasn't really 18, as she had claimed.

All in all, it was handled professionally by all parties involved. And I see it no different than a traffic ticket in the US; one handles the situation like an adult and plays along, and everything works out fine for all involved. Or one can insist on being 100% in the right, and the situation can escalate and get very ugly (and expensive) in a hurry.[/QUOTE]You can bet that the PN got a lot more than 1000 pesos out of it. More likely they got the 10K and she got the 1K.

If you were not sure that the chica was over-18 you were putting yourself in extreme danger. I am guessing she was because, if not, they could have taken your for a lot more than 11, 000 pesos.

I don't see anything professional about this. You behaved recklessly and got scammed as a result. I agree that you made the best of a bad job, but you were lucky as well.

As you say, there is more to this story.

One other general point. You say "She knew that I was departing the next day". Mongers should never tell chicas when they are leaving because most of these scams succeed when the monger has a flight to catch. There are other reasons why it is not a good idea to tell.

[QUOTE=Don Antonio;1305466]And maybe also find out that she wasn't really 18, as she had claimed[/QUOTE]You didn't bother checking, didn't bother asking, maybe even didn't want to know? But you pretty much knew what you were doing and rolled the dice! Playing with fire you always risk being burned!

Like others said below, likening this to a traffic ticket were you "grease" the cop is absurd. You're lucky you weren't thrown in jail a very very long time. I would never go back to the DR if I were you for you might be in their computer systems and the whole thing could happen to you all over again with other people wanting to extort.

Go back to the monger drawing board and start from scratch. The basic do's and do not's. Could save your life amd / or jail time!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1305769]One other general point. You say "She knew that I was departing the next day". Mongers should never tell chicas when they are leaving because most of these scams succeed when the monger has a flight to catch. There are other reasons why it is not a good idea to tell.[/QUOTE]Very very good point here Chuck, I am always ambiguous when I arrived and when I'm leaving.

#1 for the chicas, so they don't know your exact schedule, if I sessioned with one and she wants to do it again, or tell her NO babe ill see you around and we'll do it again for I'm here till Wednesday, even though I'm leaving Monday. Safety, security reasons, no set ups! And then I just leave ducking down in the taxi! LOL.

#2 for store vendors! Damn they get pesky, some of them are so pushy and its hard for them to hear NO. So now when I hit the beach I just tell them "ill get you before I leave for the airport, I'm here til Wednesday" this seems to appease them for the time being. But reallly I'm leaving Tuesday. Not having to deal with them again.

Always think with the big head, not the little head.

When in doubt, sit it out.

Getting too close to one girl can be hazardous to your health.

Never let them know when you are leaving. That's when the money trail runs out, and they have to drain every last peso out of you before you leave, or make arrangements (western union) to get the one's you left at home.

It's like a guy saying he got a STD while mongering bareback, and putting down all forms of mongering because of sloppy dangerous tactics.

I find it odd that a puta can approach the police, make claims of a monger owing her alleged money and the police showing up with a warrant for arrest. If this is really the case, then maybe things are getting bad in Sosua. I realize that DR is corrupt, but if mongers are getting targeted, maybe it might be worth limiting ones ventures to places like Passions and BB. There might be risk involved in these places as well, but the likelihood is probably much lower. But I still find it hard to believe that is these scams are happening now, why didn't they happen before in greater frequency. Afterall mongering is not a new thing in the DR by far and neither is the corruption.

Man, first of all THANKYOU! Fellow mongers, for these 'heads up'horror stories. These warnings should more than open our eyes, that NO MATTER, how prepared we think we are, anything can happen to anyone of us at any giving time, alot of mongers, are leaving out that THEY ARE NOT CHECKING CEDULAS, Not talking to chicas as well as they can. I understand after all of that, we still could get shook down, extorted or black mailed.

These chicas are slowly discovering 'W. M. D' Weapons of Mongering Destruction, What I mean by that, they are looking for All SITUATION of taking advantage of unprepared mongers, looking for ways to commit distortiion and blackmail, as a way to get out of an agreed upon, price. And to get more out a particular mongers. The New Sosua' will force us to check all cedulas, and take a minute and get a second opinion of her particular cedula with a security guard or someone else you can trust. Hopefully that person is fluent in spanish and trustworthy, I know it sounds like paranoia, but I rather look stupid with paranoia, then like that European guy, that had that pathetic look of utter despair.

What works for me, is I too just give the agreed on price, coupled that with a familiar trustworthy chica, ie. A chicas friend et, etc. My spanish is limited, but I try to get a feel for the chica, I'm fortunate to know a few people down there. I have them talk to her in spanish, and get a second opiniion (, if theres a second person around) I also show them her I, the, and get a second opinion. I realize I can't do this everytime, and after all that still get SCAMMED!

I guess I'm a paranoid person, but I usually take my chicas from Classicos, and rarely from the strip'I am going to now maybe, start hitting up LaPassions chica, to further protect my self. I hope these methods, plus being able to think with the BIG HEAD, and not the LITTLE HEAD, hopefully will minimize, my chances of being scammed, but nothing short of not going to Sosua is a HUNDRED PERCENT. Peace!

This post was made to offer a different perspective on how to handle a demanding situation in light of the recent incident of a fellow American monger at TL.

In order to handle these situations, one needs to leave his / her pre-conceived notions as to how justice is delivered behind; and especially the US variant which is different but just as corrupt.

Just from your response, it is clear to me that you do not have a solid grasp on Dominican culture and how things work in real life (google "Timothy Schwartz Dominican Justice" for an insightful treatise.)

And what computer system are you referring to: the high-tech, satellite linked PCs that PN carries on every moto and in every car?

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1305773]You didn't bother checking, didn't bother asking, maybe even didn't want to know? But you pretty much knew what you were doing and rolled the dice! Playing with fire you always risk being burned!

Like others said below, likening this to a traffic ticket were you "grease" the cop is absurd. You're lucky you weren't thrown in jail a very very long time. I would never go back to the DR if I were you for you might be in their computer systems and the whole thing could happen to you all over again with other people wanting to extort.

Go back to the monger drawing board and start from scratch. The basic do's and do not's. Could save your life amd / or jail time![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1305925]I guess I'm a paranoid person, but I usually take my chicas from Classicos, and rarely from the strip'I am going to now maybe, start hitting up LaPassions chica, to further protect my self. I hope these methods, plus being able to think with the BIG HEAD, and not the LITTLE HEAD, hopefully will minimize, my chances of being scammed, but nothing short of not going to Sosua is a HUNDRED PERCENT. Peace![/QUOTE]There is a difference between being paranoid and careful. It is a different culture and the stuff we are used to back at home all goes out the window. It is definitely better to lose a few pesos than to get tangled up with the law down there. Like someone mentioned before, mongers are on the bottom of the food chain in the eyes of most Sosua residents. On the other hand, sex tourism probably does add quite a large capital to Sosua. (I am only talking about sosua. Not the rest of DR). Face it, I would say at least 50% of men that come to Sosua are there for only one reason (the percentage is probably higher). If things get too out of hand with these scams, and mongers do stop comming to sosua, it would probably have a significant effect on the economy there. I can't believe that the 2 AI's that are there could support Sosua businesses. It might only be a trend that will fade. Afterall like I said earlier, mongers and corruption are not new to Sosua by far and if these scams were a common thing we would be hearing about it a lot more.

But one needs to be careful regardless. A sucker can get scammed anywhere. And apparently they are born every 30 secs.

[quote=don antonio; 1305941]this post was made to offer a different perspective on how to handle a demanding situation in light of the recent incident of a fellow american monger at tl.

in order to handle these situations, one needs to leave his / her pre-conceived notions as to how justice is delivered behind; and especially the us variant which is different but just as corrupt.

just from your response, it is clear to me that you do not have a solid grasp on dominican culture and how things work in real life (google "timothy schwartz dominican justice" for an insightful treatise.)

and what computer system are you referring to: the high-tech, satellite linked pcs that pn carries on every moto and in every car?[/quote]you knew very clear what you were doing, you chose to not even ask to see id for what ever reason who knows only you do, therefore you "rolled the dice"

you claim that you have been "on again off again" with this chica for three weeks, are you telling me that the question "y cuantos años tienes" never came up once not even in casual chit chat pillow talk? even if you claim she told you "i'm 18" the hotel or apartment complex you stayed at did not require a copy of her cedula or even ask to see one?

everybody knows the dr judicial system is one of thee most corrupt with the "greasing" of public officials is part of the culture and a daily occurrence. people know (tourists) and especially the locals know that besides murder (i don't think you could buy your way out of that one) , paying off an official would be the best case scenario for them.

i have been going to the dr since 2001 and i myself have been shaken down by the pn for 3500 for not wearing my helmet. it was pay the fine or have my moto confirep001ed. it was my first brush with the law to this point but i have heard many pn stories by either other domincans or expats. so before you go on and make baseless claims like "you are clear that i don't have a solid grasp of dominican culture" make sure you know who you are talking to!

you were just shaken down for 11000 pesos could have been 30000, could have been jail time for a very long time and you are telling us that you couldn't put in a few basic monger "security measures" in place to avoid these types of situations? on the contrary you are a role model of what not to do, not even asking personally to see her i'd for shits and giggles even if your hotel or apartment complex did not. which again brings to the foreground you knew very clear what you were doing, didn't want to know but chose to "roll the dice" anyways.

and for my final point, are you telling me that this pn can't get a copy of your i'd your passport? did he ask you for it to look at? i'm sure he did when you were arrested! did he write your information down? if not he will get it from the rental agency or hotel you stayed at for all foreign tourists are required to present a passport during check in.

he can then give your info to the dominican immigration enforcement to "hey detain this guy if he tries to enter the country for "further questioning" [url]http://www.dominica.gov.dm/cms/index.php?q=node/200[/url]

i know the dr is still a 3rd world country but one of the basic functionality of any sovereign country is to have some kind of customs and immigration system. me personaly would have very strong reservations returning without being 100% certain not even 99% certain would do it for me!

Seems we are talking two different countries here. You DO KNOW (?) the difference between Dominica and the Dominican Republic. Don't you, papi?

P. S. : Unfortunately all your other assumptions are of the same depth and quality.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1306115He can then give your info to the Dominican Immigration enforcement to "hey detain this guy if he tries to enter the country for "further questioning"

[url]http://www.dominica.gov.dm/cms/index.php?q=node/200[/url][/QUOTE]

Some information about Domincan jails and prisons here:

[url]http:// d r 1/articles/jail.shtml[/url]

[QUOTE=Chert1;1305876]I find it odd that a puta can approach the police, make claims of a monger owing her alleged money and the police showing up with a warrant for arrest. If this is really the case, then maybe things are getting bad in Sosua. I realize that DR is corrupt, but if mongers are getting targeted, maybe it might be worth limiting ones ventures to places like Passions and BB. There might be risk involved in these places as well, but the likelihood is probably much lower. But I still find it hard to believe that is these scams are happening now, why didn't they happen before in greater frequency. Afterall mongering is not a new thing in the DR by far and neither is the corruption.[/QUOTE]Yes, confining your activities to Passions and BB would reduce the chances of problems. So would not picking up hardcore putas in Sosua. But you could be unlucky anywhere.

These things have been going on since I have been visiting the DR. As they are relatively rare, it is hard to say whether they are more frequent now as the the sample size is so small as to be statistically insignificant. If we were to hear of four similar incidents in one year (and I personally haven't) that could signify an increase, or it could just be a "blip" with no further incidents for a couple of years. What would seem likely is that news of one successful scam would encourage others to try.

If they are becoming more frequent, there could be three reasons. Firstly the spread of drug culture. People who need money for drugs may act more recklessly. Secondly, the decline of law and order, already fairly sketchy concepts in the DR, because of political corruption and increased power of the drug gangs. Thirdly, the ever-widening gap between the richest and poorest strata of society which makes the latter more desperate and maybe more envious and resentful. All three things are inter-related.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1306115]. besides murder (I don't think you could buy your way out of that one)[/QUOTE]On the contrary, buying your way out of murder is routine in the DR. There are dozens of such cases reported in the press every year. You make restitution to the victim's dependants and, of course, liberal propinas to police and officials. It is always said the hardest thing to buy your way out of is drug offences and under-aged sex, mainly because the DR Govt is terrified of US pressure. How true that is I don't know, but paying for your freedom after murdering someone is often reported and is not necessarily regarded as dishonorable or corrupt but in many cases as "making the best of a bad job" so "everyone can get on with lives" without great expense to the state. Of course it depends on whom you murdered. If some locally popular or saintly person or a child, it might be a different matter. But if you murdered some lowlife the police might thank you for doing their job for them.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1306141]Some information about Domincan jails and prisons here:

[url]http:// d r 1/articles/jail.shtml[/url][/QUOTE]Interesting that the last paragraph reads as follows, confirming what I have been somewhat vilified for saying, which is that is some respects a stay in prison in the DR could be better than in the US.

[QUOTE]"But as bad as the prisons in the Dominican Republic can be many fugitives would rather serve time in the Dominican Republic because of the ease afforded to them. With the greasing of a few palms a 20 year sentence can be a walk in the park. But if you are a poor soul a 20 year sentence will feel like an eternity. In many cases US criminals can make their way to the Dominican Republic and will fight extradition knowing that they will end up doing hard time in the US. Even getting a pardon is on sale in the Dominican Republic, for the right price."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1306146]
These things have been going on since I have been visiting the DR. As they are relatively rare, it is hard to say whether they are more frequent now as the the sample size is so small as to be statistically insignificant. If we were to hear of four similar incidents in one year (and I personally haven't) that could signify an increase, or it could just be a "blip" with no further incidents for a couple of years. What would seem likely is that news of one successful scam would encourage others to try.
[/QUOTE]

The problem with this is that, although we are grateful for the guys that come here and report what happened to them, most mongers probably are more hesitant to say anything about the ordeal depending on how embarrassing or traumatizing the event was for them. We've only heard of two such incidents on this board (you may have heard of more being an expat in the DR) this year, but if this type of stuff is occurring more frequently there is a good chance we are unaware of its frequency due to underreporting.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1306164]The problem with this is that, although we are grateful for the guys that come here and report what happened to them, most mongers probably are more hesitant to say anything about the ordeal depending on how embarrassing or traumatizing the event was for them. We've only heard of two such incidents on this board (you may have heard of more being an expat in the DR) this year, but if this type of stuff is occurring more frequently there is a good chance we are unaware of its frequency due to underreporting.[/QUOTE]Great post Savepros, real stuff you'rew teling hope this post encourage people to do so.

Quote Originally Posted by Chert1 [View Original Post]

I find it odd that a puta can approach the police, make claims of a monger owing her alleged money and the police showing up with a warrant for arrest. If this is really the case, then maybe things are getting bad in Sosua. I realize that DR is corrupt, but if mongers are getting targeted, maybe it might be worth limiting ones ventures to places like Passions and BB. There might be risk involved in these places as well, but the likelihood is probably much lower. But I still find it hard to believe that is these scams are happening now, why didn't they happen before in greater frequency. Afterall mongering is not a new thing in the DR by far and neither is the corruption.

Yes, confining your activities to Passions and BB would reduce the chances of problems. So would not picking up hardcore putas in Sosua. But you could be unlucky anywhere.

These things have been going on since I have been visiting the DR. As they are relatively rare, it is hard to say whether they are more frequent now as the the sample size is so small as to be statistically insignificant. If we were to hear of four similar incidents in one year (and I personally haven't) that could signify an increase, or it could just be a "blip" with no further incidents for a couple of years. What would seem likely is that news of one successful scam would encourage others to try.

If they are becoming more frequent, there could be three reasons. Firstly the spread of drug culture. People who need money for drugs may act more recklessly. Secondly, the decline of law and order, already fairly sketchy concepts in the DR, because of political corruption and increased power of the drug gangs. Thirdly, the ever-widening gap between the richest and poorest strata of society which makes the latter more desperate and maybe more envious and resentful. All three things are inter-related.

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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1306164]The problem with this is that, although we are grateful for the guys that come here and report what happened to them, most mongers probably are more hesitant to say anything about the ordeal depending on how embarrassing or traumatizing the event was for them. We've only heard of two such incidents on this board (you may have heard of more being an expat in the DR) this year, but if this type of stuff is occurring more frequently there is a good chance we are unaware of its frequency due to underreporting.[/QUOTE]Very true. And the bulk of mongers probably don't read, and certainly don't report back to, the boards, which would account for the crazy prices they sometimes pay.

However, realizing there may be under-reporting doesn't help us to know whether such events are increasing or not, as there could have been just as much under-reporting in past decades. Indeed there probably would have been more under-reporting in past decades as the main w h o re eboards covering the DR have only really exploded over the past six or seven years. Before that guys were more or less on their own or just spread stories by word of mouth within localized cliques. Dominican Billy, who has been mongering here for 17 (?) years and did more to get the whole current scene going than anyone, told me some hair-raising tales of mongers fleeing straight from "the scene of the crime" direct to the airport, leaving all their belongings in the DR, to catch the first flight out to wherever didn't matter, before the dozy cops could impose an "impedimento de salida".

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1306171]Very true. And the bulk of mongers probably don't read, and certainly don't report back to, the boards, which would account for the crazy prices they sometimes pay.

However, realizing there may be under-reporting doesn't help us to know whether such events are increasing or not, as there could have been just as much under-reporting in past decades. Indeed there probably would have been more under-reporting in past decades as the main w h o re eboards covering the DR have only really exploded over the past six or seven years. Before that guys were more or less on their own or just spread stories by word of mouth within localized cliques. Dominican Billy, who has been mongering here for 17 (?) years and did more to get the whole current scene going than anyone, told me some hair-raising tales of mongers fleeing straight from "the scene of the crime" direct to the airport, leaving all their belongings in the DR, to catch the first flight out to wherever didn't matter, before the dozy cops could impose an "impedimento de salida".[/QUOTE]This is sooo true as well. Charles Pooter thank you for his pots, You're really telling true stuff. You've been around. Would love to hear more stories of you and your experiences, eversince I"ve known that you're post hit the spot everytime!

Just for the record: that's not what went down and that's not how I described it!

In essence, I was served a Notice to Appear in front of the fiscal in a civil matter (dispute between two parties) , decided to ignore the NOA, and for that I was subsequently served w / an Arrest Warrant. Not because a chica randomly approached PN and Politur on the street and complained.

It was still a set-up, but let's keep the facts straight!

[QUOTE=Chert1;1305876]I find it odd that a puta can approach the police, make claims of a monger owing her alleged money and the police showing up with a warrant for arrest. If this is really the case, then maybe things are getting bad in Sosua.[/QUOTE]

Typically the PN rate is about 50%; so she probably got to keep RDP 5k, and the other 5k was distributed between fiscal and PN.

For the record: the PN did not ask me for money at any time ever. I just slipped them a 1, 000 pesos (500 pesos each) early on because these guys have families, too, and need to eat and drink just like we all do. (And one certainly cannot support a family on a regular Politur or PN salary.) Plus, it signaled that I am open to more "Dominican" solutions rather than budding heads with them.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1305769]You can bet that the PN got a lot more than 1000 pesos out of it. More likely they got the 10K and she got the 1K.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Don Antonio; 1306117]Seems we are talking two different countries here. You DO KNOW (?) the difference between Dominica and the Dominican Republic. Don't you, papi?

P. S. : Unfortunately all your other assumptions are of the same depth and quality.[/QUOTE]Got the RIGHT ONE for you! LOL [url]http://www.policianacional.gob.do/V2/Default.aspx[/url]

But you don't really need the link. You know what you're doing! People can read you with their eyes closed!

Possible scams happen but most are not from the girls. They are selling pussy and making a Dominican fortune. I have an amiga who worked in a hospital 6 days a week for 6ooo pesos a month. So putas can make more in a day then some working girls make in a month. The truth is the competition is tough. If you can get 4 johns a week at 1500 pesos they make the standard monthly income. Now those not selling pussy have very little to offer and are desperate. You have to be careful and watch your back at all times. Vet the girls you fuck a little. Many of the girls are semi pros trying to get enough to get by. If you take a little time they can be very decent. The pros can be very hard. They drink every day to to deaden the bad feelings. I have not seen any girls that I could say was a drug user. In fact most would not even smoke a joint. The hard core chica might try to steal or play games. Most of these chica are pretty obvious. Almost every body has hustle working but most are harmless. We are precious things in the DR. Our money feed many people and they know it. So if we are not having fun we stop coming. We are the life blood of Sosua and our money is welcomed all over the island.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1306171]Very true. And the bulk of mongers probably don't read, and certainly don't report back to, the boards, which would account for the crazy prices they sometimes pay.

However, realizing there may be under-reporting doesn't help us to know whether such events are increasing or not, as there could have been just as much under-reporting in past decades. Indeed there probably would have been more under-reporting in past decades as the main w h o re eboards covering the DR have only really exploded over the past six or seven years. Before that guys were more or less on their own or just spread stories by word of mouth within localized cliques. Dominican Billy, who has been mongering here for 17 (?) years and did more to get the whole current scene going than anyone, told me some hair-raising tales of mongers fleeing straight from "the scene of the crime" direct to the airport, leaving all their belongings in the DR, to catch the first flight out to wherever didn't matter, before the dozy cops could impose an "impedimento de salida".[/QUOTE]

Wrong, wrong, and wronger.

Both the "Solicitud de Citacion" and the subsequent "Conducencia" had only my badly mangled first name. No last name, no address (except El Batey). PN never asked my name or for any identification. (Heck, they didn't even ask for money. I just offered them a small token!) They didn't write anything down either; and that is assuming that they actually know how to write! And 'lo and behold, the rental agency / hotel never asked for my passport (or a copy thereof) either. So, effectively there is no trace record.

So, basically all of your assumptions and conclusions are way off. This goes for other points that you make in your post as well, e. G. Concerning my due diligence regarding the girl.

May I suggest that you just sit back, listen, and learn, old timer. .

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1306115]And for my final point, are you telling me that this PN can't get a copy of your I'd your PASSPORT? Did he ask you for it to look at? I'm sure he did when you were arrested! Did he write your information down? If NOT he will get it from the rental agency or hotel you stayed at for ALL foreign tourists are required to present a passport during check in.

He can then give your info to the Dominican Immigration enforcement to "hey detain this guy if he tries to enter the country for "further questioning"

[url]http://www.dominica.gov.dm/cms/index.php?q=node/200[/url]

[. ][/QUOTE]

Well, the tourist mongers who stay 4 days, or maybe even a week or two, aren't very likely to experience serious problems. Except maybe an unsatisfactory performance, or a stolen camera.

But it is really the mongering LT visitors and expats that stay a chance to encounter more serious problems. Over the last 24 mo, I personally have known three expats that were "dispatched" prematurely (two by Haitian chulos, one by moto accident) , at least three who have been subject to major robberies, and countless others that have fallen for small-time scams (less than 10, 000 pesos).

It is just a matter of first world meets third world. And where even a 65-yr old gringo. 300 lbs, out-of-shape, w / bad breath and missing teeth is considered desirable by a hot 20-yr old.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1306171]Very true. And the bulk of mongers probably don't read, and certainly don't report back to, the boards, which would account for the crazy prices they sometimes pay.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1306247]We are precious things in the DR. Our money feed many people and they know it. So if we are not having fun we stop coming. We are the life blood of Sosua and our money is welcomed all over the island.[/QUOTE]Do you really think your monger Pesos are a large component of Dominican GDP?

They are certainly appreciated by baby mamas nationwide, but contribute much less than you may think, remittances from family abroad are a much larger component, monger on mate!

[QUOTE=OldKool;1306247]Possible scams happen but most are not from the girls. They are selling pussy and making a Dominican fortune. I have an amiga who worked in a hospital 6 days a week for 6ooo pesos a month. So putas can make more in a day then some working girls make in a month. The truth is the competition is tough. If you can get 4 johns a week at 1500 pesos they make the standard monthly income. Now those not selling pussy have very little to offer and are desperate. You have to be careful and watch your back at all times. Vet the girls you fuck a little. Many of the girls are semi pros trying to get enough to get by. If you take a little time they can be very decent. The pros can be very hard. They drink every day to to deaden the bad feelings. I have not seen any girls that I could say was a drug user. In fact most would not even smoke a joint. The hard core chica might try to steal or play games. Most of these chica are pretty obvious. Almost every body has hustle working but most are harmless. [b]We are precious things in the DR. Our money feed many people and they know it. So if we are not having fun we stop coming. We are the life blood of Sosua and our money is welcomed all over the island.[/b][/QUOTE]I agree with all this except the last part in bold. Monger cash is a tiny, tiny drop in the bucket of DR income and the powers that be would be more than happy to see overt mongering banned and the sex-trade restricted to casas and cabanas. Cleaning up the nation's image would be worth far more in hand-outs from international bodies than the gringo monger trade contributes.

No-one thinks we are "precious". They think we are scum.

BINGO, Martin.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1306277]I agree with all this except the last part in bold. Monger cash is a tiny, tiny drop in the bucket of DR income and the powers that be would be more than happy to see overt mongering banned and the sex-trade restricted to casas and cabanas. Cleaning up the nation's image would be worth far more in hand-outs from international bodies than the gringo monger trade contributes.

No-one thinks we are "precious". They think we are scum.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1306277]I agree with all this except the last part in bold. Monger cash is a tiny, tiny drop in the bucket of DR income and the powers that be would be more than happy to see overt mongering banned and the sex-trade restricted to casas and cabanas. Cleaning up the nation's image would be worth far more in hand-outs from international bodies than the gringo monger trade contributes.

No-one thinks we are "precious". They think we are scum.[/QUOTE]Good point, which is why it is best to try to give the overall impression of NOT being a monger, or only a reluctant one.

Monger cash in Sosua is huge. The bars, Discos Hotels, casino and eateries all rely on mongers. As far as image having one of the most corrupt goverment in the world need to big fixed first. Lastly green is green. Banging putas is part of Dominican culture. So it is a time honored tradition. As the owner of Classicos if his monger customers are precious or the shop keepers. I have no shame in my game say it loud i am mongering and proud

[QUOTE=Frannie;1306293]Good point, which is why it is best to try to give the overall impression of NOT being a monger, or only a reluctant one.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1306260]Do you really think your monger Pesos are a large component of Dominican GDP?

They are certainly appreciated by baby mamas nationwide, but contribute much less than you may think, remittances from family abroad are a much larger component, monger on mate![/QUOTE]I guess it depends on who is doing the sending. You have to remember that "family abroad" don't have the best paying jobs and they still have to maintain themselves where they are living. My Dominicana in New York sends her parents US$150 to Santo Domingo every month.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1306302]Monger cash in Sosua is huge. The bars, Discos Hotels, casino and eateries all rely on mongers. As far as image having one of the most corrupt goverment in the world need to big fixed first. Lastly green is green. Banging putas is part of Dominican culture. So it is a time honored tradition. As the owner of Classicos if his monger customers are precious or the shop keepers. I have no shame in my game say it loud i am mongering and proud[/QUOTE]Dude, you are talking about one street corner within an entire country. I remember when guys were saying the same thing about Copacabana in Rio. Now all that shit is gone and neither the neighborhood, city, nor country has skipped a beat.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1306372]Dude, you are talking about one street corner within an entire country. I remember when guys were saying the same thing about Copacabana in Rio. Now all that shit is gone and neither the neighborhood, city, nor country has skipped a beat.[/QUOTE]Couldn't have said it better myself!

I betting Sosua is not going anywhere.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1306383]Couldn't have said it better myself![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1306385]I betting Sosua is not going anywhere.[/QUOTE]I'm in agreement that you should not put too much emphasis / importance in a street with a row of bars. They have already demonstrated that they can shut the place down whenever they want during the crackdown last year. And even though they haven't been hauling chicas off in paddy wagons lately, the place is still not what it once was. I've been to Sousa 5 times during 2008-2010, and May 2012 was my first trip back there since the crackdown. It definitely scared the shit out of everyone in Sosua (chicas, restaurant and bar owners), and the effects of it are still present.

If you get bored, spend some time reading some of the recent posts in the Rio forum. Guys are shitting their pants about stuff they never imagined would ever happen (closures of top mongering spots).

The city of Rio has 4 times the population of the DR, The economy in Brazil is booming and is huge. The Dr can not afford to turn down any dollars.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1306391]I'm in agreement that you should not put too much emphasis / importance in a street with a row of bars. They have already demonstrated that they can shut the place down whenever they want during the crackdown last year. And even though they haven't been hauling chicas off in paddy wagons lately, the place is still not what it once was. I've been to Sousa 5 times during 2008-2010, and May 2012 was my first trip back there since the crackdown. It definitely scared the shit out of everyone in Sosua (chicas, restaurant and bar owners) , and the effects of it are still present.

If you get bored, spend some time reading some of the recent posts in the Rio forum. Guys are shitting their pants about stuff they never imagined would ever happen (closures of top mongering spots).[/QUOTE]

[quote=don antonio; 1306250]wrong, wrong, and wronger.

both the "solicitud de citacion" and the subsequent "conducencia" had only my badly mangled first name. no last name, no address (except el batey). pn never asked my name or for any identification. (heck, they didn't even ask for money. i just offered them a small token!) they didn't write anything down either; and that is assuming that they actually know how to write! and 'lo and behold, the rental agency / hotel never asked for my passport (or a copy thereof) either. so, effectively there is no trace record.

so, basically all of your assumptions and conclusions are way off. this goes for other points that you make in your post as well, e. g. concerning my due diligence regarding the girl.

may i suggest that you just sit back, listen, and learn, old timer. .[/quote]unless you wanted to go the the puerto plata jail which there is 2 cells [ i won't even tell you about the 2nd one], the is 20 guys in a 10x10 cell made of concrete too old for me to count blocks, half the guys don't wear clothes by day , the heat i guess. the roof is made of metal so the heat index is over 100 degrees f on a hot day then at night gets cold. there is no running water, no toilet, no breeze, no beds, pillows or blankets. food is handed out 2xs daily in chinese styrofoam containers and the guys eat with their hands and get a small scoop and hand it to the next guy. water is handed through the door in a gallon jug and the guys share it like a canteen and it isn't store boughten or cold. getting back to the toilet situation there is a 2inch metal pipe sticking out of the ground 2 feet in the air with a small 2x4 on top to keep the sewer fumes from overwhelming the cell, try pooping into a flagpole for practice if you like, natuarlly no toilet paper. the place reeks of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] and with the heat during the day you can only imagine. so your bed, it is the clothes you brought with you, no pillow no blanket no bed, the rock floors and walls are rough and it is impossible to get comfortable. keep in mind this is not a holding cell, several of the dudes i met in their were already sentenced for various things and you could tell who they were by their backs as they were white from the rough cell floors and walls like sandpaper against their skin. at night some of the guys are coupled up, sleeping on one another maybe for comfort, some for partners. some people have said the dr is better conditions than the usa, but again that is why they are this boards village idiots and deserve a prize.

[QUOTE=Don Antonio; 1306201]Just for the record: that's not what went down and that's not how I described it!

In essence, I was served a Notice to Appear in front of the fiscal in a civil matter (dispute between two parties) , decided to ignore the NOA, and for that I was subsequently served w / an Arrest Warrant. Not because a chica randomly approached PN and Politur on the street and complained.

It was still a set-up, but let's keep the facts straight![/QUOTE]Hmmm. Ok I will quote you:

"At 9:20 am the next morning there is a knock on my door (I was still in bed) , and I am being served w / a Notice to Appear at 10 am at the fiscalia to sort out the dispute."

"At 10:45 am (!) , another knock on the door. This time Policia Nacional w / an Arrest Warrant, and accompanied by the other party (chica)."

So essentially within a period of 1 hour and 25 minutes there was a warrant for your arrest being served to you. You thought it would take a few days to get to that point. Obviously they were in a hurry since they knew you were leaving. I don't want to argue but I believe I have assessed the situation correctly. And unless you left something out, it seems to me that it is very possible for a chica to make a complaint and have a monger arrested without much effort. The police (from your report) also didn't seem to be too interested in your account of the events. Only in the contents of your wallet. I think you are lucky you got away with paying as little as you did. They could have put a lot more pressure on you in light of your imminent departure.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1306401]The city of Rio has 4 times the population of the DR, The economy in Brazil is booming and is huge. The Dr can not afford to turn down any dollars.[/QUOTE]I never knew that the city of Rio de Janeiro has a population of roughly 40 million people beating Tokyo, Mexico City, Sao Paulo, Mumbai, Dehli, Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Berthold;1306516]I never knew that the city of Rio de Janeiro has a population of roughly 40 million people beating Tokyo, Mexico City, Sao Paulo, Mumbai, Dehli, Jakarta.[/QUOTE]The population of Rio is about double that of Santo Domingo.

[quote=hillbilly69;1306406]unless you wanted to go the the puerto plata jail which there is 2 cells [ i won't even tell you about the 2nd one], the is 20 guys in a 10x10 cell made of concrete too old for me to count blocks, half the guys don't wear clothes by day , the heat i guess. the roof is made of metal so the heat index is over 100 degrees f on a hot day then at night gets cold. there is no running water, no toilet, no breeze, no beds, pillows or blankets. food is handed out 2xs daily in chinese styrofoam containers and the guys eat with their hands and get a small scoop and hand it to the next guy. water is handed through the door in a gallon jug and the guys share it like a canteen and it isn't store boughten or cold. getting back to the toilet situation there is a 2inch metal pipe sticking out of the ground 2 feet in the air with a small 2x4 on top to keep the sewer fumes from overwhelming the cell, try pooping into a flagpole for practice if you like, natuarlly no toilet paper. the place reeks of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] and with the heat during the day you can only imagine. so your bed, it is the clothes you brought with you, no pillow no blanket no bed, the rock floors and walls are rough and it is impossible to get comfortable. keep in mind this is not a holding cell, several of the dudes i met in their were already sentenced for various things and you could tell who they were by their backs as they were white from the rough cell floors and walls like sandpaper against their skin. at night some of the guys are coupled up, sleeping on one another maybe for comfort, some for partners. some people have said the dr is better conditions than the usa, but again that is why they are this boards village idiots and deserve a prize.[/quote]i've visited the pp jail, and this description is right and exact. so much so in fact that it gave me a flash back of the place and sent chills down my spine.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1306517]The population of Rio is about double that of Santo Domingo.[/QUOTE]Where do you always come up with your "facts" what sources?

Rios population in 2012 is estimated at 12. 7 million and

Santo Domingos population in 2012 is estimated at 3. 4 million

How does that make that double?

[url]http://www.citypopulation.de/world/Agglomerations.html[/url]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_metropolitan_areas_in_the_Americas

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1306372]Dude, you are talking about one street corner within an entire country. I remember when guys were saying the same thing about Copacabana in Rio. Now all that shit is gone and neither the neighborhood, city, nor country has skipped a beat.[/QUOTE]Big difference. Brazil has been one of the fastest growing economies on earth. Rio prob has a population of 10 million plus. Its a real city. One of the worlds largest. The city doesn't depend on the mongering scene to survive. Sosua is a small beach town that is heavily dependent. On mongers. You're comparing apples and oranges.

[QUOTE=Mongmann;1306555]Big difference. Brazil has been one of the fastest growing economies on earth. Rio prob has a population of 10 million plus. Its a real city. One of the worlds largest. The city doesn't depend on the mongering scene to survive. Sosua is a small beach town that is heavily dependent. On mongers. You're comparing apples and oranges.[/QUOTE]And that number would even double if they weren't so much into anal! Jejeje

[QUOTE=OldKool;1306401]The city of Rio has 4 times the population of the DR, The economy in Brazil is booming and is huge. The Dr can not afford to turn down any dollars.[/QUOTE]I have not been to Sosua in many years. Seems there has been new Condo buildings built in Sosua. Some of the condos the asking price to buy is over 300 thousand US dollars. Most people who are going to plunk down over $300K on a vacation property, generally don't want an overabundance of street prostitution near their property.

When I was young, there used to be street prostitutes on the upper east side of Manhattan (near 86th street and 3rd Avenue). Property values in that area went up, lots of new condo buildings were constructed and the street prostitutes disappeared.

I have been going to Sosua for 5 years and have known or worked with people in the DR way before that. The first thing I want to say is that only a moron would say that the people in the DR think of sex tourists as scum and wish they would go away. The men in that country are mostly doing the same thing we are.

As long as we are friends they don't care about our purpose. I think people can't understand that the attitude towards P4P and sex is far different in every democracy in the world than it is in the US. If you read history you'll know why.

The crackdown in Sosua came about for several reason that have never been dicussed here. So did the end of the crackdown. The first thing the crackdown proved is that yes Sosua is dependent on P4P as the current situation stands and it's going to take much to change that. This is not true in most of the rest of the country. But what most people from the US don't understand is that most people in the DR, as most other democracies, don't care about P4P one way or the other. It's been around forever. If the DR did get rid of P4P it would not be because of the people in the DR, it would be because of pressure from groups in the US.

As for that crackdown itself I think Soaua is far better now and it is certaily far safer. The riff-raff and minors are mostly gone. The chica scene has returned to the beach and the beach merchants are doing much better. There is still some politur action residue from the crackdown but that's generally for a specific case.

The mongers are back and the town is thriving as well as it can thrive.

For those worldly mongers, how does Sosua compare to Angeles City and Pattaya? I have trips planned for Sosua and Pattaya this year and I'm wondering what differences I can expect. This guy seems to be pretty happy with Angeles City? [url]http://youtu.be/sHLeAVsMk7I[/url]

[QUOTE=Bimmy5; 1306647]I have been going to Sosua for 5 years and have known or worked with people in the DR way before that. The first thing I want to say is that only a moron would say that the people in the DR think of sex tourists as scum and wish they would go away. The men in that country are mostly doing the same thing we are.

As long as we are friends they don't care about our purpose. I think people can't understand that the attitude towards P4P and sex is far different in every democracy in the world than it is in the US. If you read history you'll know why.

The crackdown in Sosua came about for several reason that have never been dicussed here. So did the end of the crackdown. The first thing the crackdown proved is that yes Sosua is dependent on P4P as the current situation stands and it's going to take much to change that. This is not true in most of the rest of the country. But what most people from the US don't understand is that most people in the DR, as most other democracies, don't care about P4P one way or the other. It's been around forever. If the DR did get rid of P4P it would not be because of the people in the DR, it would be because of pressure from groups in the US.

As for that crackdown itself I think Soaua is far better now and it is certaily far safer. The riff-raff and minors are mostly gone. The chica scene has returned to the beach and the beach merchants are doing much better. There is still some politur action residue from the crackdown but that's generally for a specific case.

The mongers are back and the town is thriving as well as it can thrive.[/QUOTE]PLEASE, give us the reasons. The crackdown on Haitianas continues. Drug dealers, hustlers, beggars, pickpockets, reckless, law breaking, moto-cochos, are ignored.

With all due respect. I just returned from 7 wks in Sosua.

What beach were you on? Maybe Cuba Libre Beach?

And let me have the stall # of the beach merchants you talked to as well.

And what do you mean by "There is still some politur action residue from the crackdown but that's generally for a specific case." CARE TO EXPLAIN?

[QUOTE=Bimmy5; 1306647][. ]

As for that crackdown itself I think Soaua is far better now and it is certaily far safer. The riff-raff and minors are mostly gone. The chica scene has returned to the beach and the beach merchants are doing much better. There is still some politur action residue from the crackdown but that's generally for a specific case.

The mongers are back and the town is thriving as well as it can thrive.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sidney;1306654]PLEASE, give us the reasons. The crackdown on Haitianas continues. Drug dealers, hustlers, beggars, pickpockets, reckless, law breaking, moto-cochos, are ignored.[/QUOTE]They have their preferences. But to compare Sosua to the way it was 2 years ago or especially if you don't see the difference you have a short memory because the difference is considerable. In the new Sosua I don't have minors trying to jump on me and pick my pockets, the number of people sticking out their hands as I walk down the street has dropped considerably, I don't have people sitting there looking at me like I am a target when I go by, and hotels no longer have security guards with Great Danes and rifles. That says a lot.

But excuse me. I forgot. I am on ISG where you are only suppose to say negative things about Sosua. So all you people with all these negative posts please stay away and let the rest of us enjoy this great town.

[QUOTE=Bimmy5;1306684]They have their preferences. But to compare Sosua to the way it was 2 years ago or especially if you don't see the difference you have a short memory because the difference is considerable. In the new Sosua I don't have minors trying to jump on me and pick my pockets, the number of people sticking out their hands as I walk down the street has dropped considerably, I don't have people sitting there looking at me like I am a target when I go by, and hotels no longer have security guards with Great Danes and rifles. That says a lot.[/QUOTE]I agree, but I sure do miss all of the (good looking) chicas that would "harass" me from sun up to sun down. That was the main draw for me. Now the place is like a ghost town during the day. The beach is hit or miss. It was "miss" everyday for me when I was there.

If you can sleep until 6pm every day, then nothing has changed for you. Classicos is still the bomb; Rumba bar has overtaken Merengue Bar as the main attraction for late evening play; but just way too many damn policemen hanging around during the day (and night) scaring off all of the talent.

I remember standing around in front of Classicos on one of those nights I decided to not go in and play the strategy of catching chicas before then went inside. A group of (mostly unattractive) chicas were standing around me trying to get my attention. A group of policemen started to walk towards my way and all the chicas started to shudder and huddle closely around me. They were scared shitless!

Don't know the reason for the heavy police presence around now, but it is really does fuck with the mood and ambiance of the town.

But I do agree with you; not once was I asked to buy a damn painting or fucking trinkets that you can but from a cheap hobby shop.

BUT:

The shoe shine boys were still around, but just not in great numbers. The hustlers are still there too reminding you that "hey man, it's my birthday". The Rosetta Stone guy is still around there peddling the Spanish book he wrote (that's his line; not mine). So is the guy with the gimpy foot on crutches.

The only thing that has seemed to change is less chicas out during the day and more policemen around.

At 37, I'm already resigned to the fact that I will never enjoy, the mongering, hay days. I wonder what the activity will be like when I'm in my 50's, or 60's. Things are certainly bound to get worse. The world gets smaller, and information is readily available. I sometimes wonder if this site should be accessible by non-members, at all. I can only imagine how pissed off a well funded feminist group, with a human right agenda, might say if they came across the information on this site. Save the women of the, Dominican, campaign? Nobody seems to give a shit if, Alec Baldwin, bangs a chick half his age; but if you, or I, figure it out, the shit hits the fan.

A couple of weeks ago I viewed a youtube video, at passions, of a couple of chicas, shaking it; And some guy posts ' yo 2000 pesos for an hour of banging, 'on the bottom of videos', comment section. Guys coming back from, sosua, and telling women what their, domincan vacation, was like. Everybody remember what happened to the, adult section, on Craigslist? One too many big mouths, lead to a national news story, with a national network, and CL, was reeling in damage control. All we need is a couple of western governments and well funded NGO's, to twist an arm, and things could get pretty difficult. Developing countries are constantly pressured, by these entities, in the name of human rights. An aid package, politically supported, by a human rights, or even [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] agenda could do a lot to pressure a country like, the DR.

A couple of years ago the shit was flying after a bachelor party for a friend of mine. Some info had leaked, through some idiot, and one guys wife was streaming. One of the old timers said' back in the day we'd just shut the barn doors for a couple of days, and nothing would leave, during or after. Women, whiskey, and whatever the hell else went on '. Sometimes I wish fellas would learn to close the barn doors.

[QUOTE=Save Pros 321; 1306693]I agree, but I sure do miss all of the (good looking) chicas that would "harass" me from sun up to sun down. That was the main draw for me. Now the place is like a ghost town during the day. The beach is hit or miss. It was "miss" everyday for me when I was there.

If you can sleep until 6pm every day, then nothing has changed for you. Classicos is still the bomb; Rumba bar has overtaken Merengue Bar as the main attraction for late evening play; but just way too many damn policemen hanging around during the day (and night) scaring off all of the talent.

I remember standing around in front of Classicos on one of those nights I decided to not go in and play the strategy of catching chicas before then went inside. A group of (mostly unattractive) chicas were standing around me trying to get my attention. A group of policemen started to walk towards my way and all the chicas started to shudder and huddle closely around me. They were scared shitless!

Don't know the reason for the heavy police presence around now, but it is really does fuck with the mood and ambiance of the town.

But I do agree with you; not once was I asked to buy a damn painting or fucking trinkets that you can but from a cheap hobby shop.

BUT:

The shoe shine boys were still around, but just not in great numbers. The hustlers are still there too reminding you that "hey man, it's my birthday". The Rosetta Stone guy is still around there peddling the Spanish book he wrote (that's his line; not mine). So is the guy with the gimpy foot on crutches.

The only thing that has seemed to change is less chicas out during the day and more policemen around.[/QUOTE]"Like a ghost town" I would disagree, I go every 6-8 weeks for the past 2 years. Every day all day there are dozens of girls available, maybe hundreds. I would say that at least 20 % are 7-8's on a 1. 10 scale. If you move around town you can't miss them. As far as the police, they are a positive. There presence keeps everyone in check including us. If is safer by far. If you are acting the fool you should be concerned. If we did 1/2 the things in the US that we do in Sosua, we would be locked up every time we left the house.

The people hawking their wares (trinkints & shoe shine boys) are trying to survive if you do not want to contribute don't. It is rare that they give anyone a hard time for not buying or giving them a few bucks. At least they are not robing & piliging like our folks here in the US. Break them off something it will make you feel better. Not trying to be confrontational, that is only my opinion & you know what they say about opinions.

Good times!

[QUOTE=Bimmy5; 1306684]They have their preferences. But to compare Sosua to the way it was 2 years ago or especially if you don't see the difference you have a short memory because the difference is considerable. In the new Sosua I don't have minors trying to jump on me and pick my pockets, the number of people sticking out their hands as I walk down the street has dropped considerably, I don't have people sitting there looking at me like I am a target when I go by, and hotels no longer have security guards with Great Danes and rifles. That says a lot.

But excuse me. I forgot. I am on ISG where you are only suppose to say negative things about Sosua. So all you people with all these negative posts please stay away and let the rest of us enjoy this great town.[/QUOTE]If Sosua is such a terrible place, then I love terrible places. Compare to my home South Florida. You pay 5 times more for everything & receive 10 times less. Try to pick up a 20-30 year old girl in Miami. I don't care if you are 20 or 50 years old. You can either go out and spend hundreds of dollars for dinner drinks to obtain a fake relationship or pay a hooker hundreds of dollars for 1 hour. Maybe dinner & drinks a few times per week over a period of months will get you your dream girl. Great if you have thousands (Or 10's of thousands) to spend and a lot of time. But the end result will probally be the same. When the $ stops the relationship ends (For whatever reason LOL ). So for me I will keep going to to the terrible town of Sosua & enjoy my miserable life.

[QUOTE=Mongerman69; 1306703]At 37, I'm already resigned to the fact that I will never enjoy, the mongering, hay days. I wonder what the activity will be like when I'm in my 50's, or 60's. Things are certainly bound to get worse. The world gets smaller, and information is readily available. I sometimes wonder if this site should be accessible by non-members, at all. I can only imagine how pissed off a well funded feminist group, with a human right agenda, might say if they came across the information on this site. Save the women of the, Dominican, campaign? Nobody seems to give a shit if, Alec Baldwin, bangs a chick half his age; but if you, or I, figure it out, the shit hits the fan.

A couple of weeks ago I viewed a youtube video, at passions, of a couple of chicas, shaking it; And some guy posts ' yo 2000 pesos for an hour of banging, 'on the bottom of videos', comment section. Guys coming back from, sosua, and telling women what their, domincan vacation, was like. Everybody remember what happened to the, adult section, on Craigslist? One too many big mouths, lead to a national news story, with a national network, and CL, was reeling in damage control. All we need is a couple of western governments and well funded NGO's, to twist an arm, and things could get pretty difficult. Developing countries are constantly pressured, by these entities, in the name of human rights. An aid package, politically supported, by a human rights, or even [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] agenda could do a lot to pressure a country like, the DR.[/QUOTE]The problem is that we are talking about a relatively small area that happens to be frequented by gringos. There are no laws against prostitution in the DR, which is why we go there. Outside of Sosua there is a very miniscule presence of Americans; but there are cabanas and casas catering to Dominican Clientel all over the country. No aid package is going to change that. The Dominican government will take your money with the right hand and ask for more with the left one. But they would sooner tell you to go fuck yourself before they change their culture and way of life for extrajernos. Just go to the State Department website and read about the DR:

[url]http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/humanrightsreport/index.htm?dlid=186510[/url]

In my opinion, the US gives money to the DR a place holder to counter Cuba and any outside influence trying to grease their way into the region. If the US cuts off aid to the DR because they won't stamp out prostitution, the Dominicans will just go talk to the Chinese or the Russians. How many of you think the US want either one of those two in our backyard?

Take the time to learn Spanish, branch out away from where gringos congregate in multitudes, and the entire island (and Latin America for that fact) is your oyster.

Mr. Enternational said it best (I'm parsing it): when Help Disco closed in Rio, the guys who never learned Portuguese saw their world coming to an end. For the guys who did take the time to learn Porto, nothing has changed for them.

[QUOTE=Mongerman69;1306703]A couple of years ago the shit was flying after a bachelor party for a friend of mine. Some info had leaked, through some idiot, and one guys wife was streaming. One of the old timers said' back in the day we'd just shut the barn doors for a couple of days, and nothing would leave, during or after. Women, whiskey, and whatever the hell else went on '. Sometimes I wish fellas would learn to close the barn doors.[/QUOTE]I agree. In several years of coming to the DR I never mentioned paid sex to ANYONE back home, not even to my best male friend. Girlfriends, yes, paid sex no. If anyone asked about prostitution in the DR (hardly ever happened) , I just said that as far as I know prostitution is legal almost everywhere in the world other than the US, including countries where I have lived in Europe.

I find it amazing that people travel in groups for paid sex, because as soon as you do that your cover is totally blown. I would not trust anyone to keep their mouth 100% shut. Online no one knows your true identity, but as soon as you meet other mongers in the flesh you have no confidentiality, so it is best to be extremely circumspect about whom you meet with, because you don't know who else they might talk to.

You should be aware also that if you have a conversation with someone and then write about the same topics here the same day, the other person might read your comments and make the connection.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1306653]For those worldly mongers, how does Sosua compare to Angeles City and Pattaya? I have trips planned for Sosua and Pattaya this year and I'm wondering what differences I can expect. This guy seems to be pretty happy with Angeles City?

[url]http://youtu.be/sHLeAVsMk7I[/url][/QUOTE]Sosua is a little shit town on a beach. Pattaya is a big shit town on a beach. There are more chicks in Pattaya than every ISG poster combined could fuck in a lifetime!

Other than the size difference and the ethnic / racial / language difference, they are both great places. Try them both and give us your review!

[QUOTE=Combo;1306814]Sosua is a little shit town on a beach. Pattaya is a big shit town on a beach. There are more chicks in Pattaya than every ISG poster combined could fuck in a lifetime![/QUOTE]That is funny. I live in Pattaya and when people ask me if I have a wife or a girlfriend there I tell them, "No way! There I could literally have a different girl every day for the rest of my life." I'm 40 now. If I live another 40 years X 365 days = 14,600 girls. I don't know if that number has even scratched the surface.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1306720]I agree. In several years of coming to the DR I never mentioned paid sex to ANYONE back home, not even to my best male friend. Girlfriends, yes, paid sex no. If anyone asked about prostitution in the DR (hardly ever happened) , I just said that as far as I know prostitution is legal almost everywhere in the world other than the US, including countries where I have lived in Europe.

I find it amazing that people travel in groups for paid sex, because as soon as you do that your cover is totally blown.[/QUOTE]I don't know dude. Cover schmover. The more I get into this thing, the more I find that people could give a rat's ass about the participants of P4P. 99% of the guys that I know, I know for a fact do it. (A couple of minutes ago I just posted photos in the Rio thread that my own dad took of me skeeting in some chick's face down there.) The other 1% I have no idea about.

I took my youngest brother to Sosua on his virgin mongering trip 3 years ago when he was 19. Last year I took him to Thailand on his spring break.

My other two brothers are coming back from DR today - their third trip in 4 months.

A couple of months ago I took my mom and 2 of my aunts to Pattaya and inside one of the discos that I get a lot of my chicks from. They could blindingly see all of the foreign guys with all of the Thai chicks throughout the city; many of them mismatched like a mf.

When my dad and stepmom went to Pattaya last month, my stepmom told me that her and my dad went to the same disco.

This is what my cousin's wife posted on his facebook a couple of days ago,"go home to (his city) or go back to your HOARS (self edited spelling due to Jackson's auto correction) in Pattaya. 46 minutes ago via mobile · Like · 1.", after she allowed him to stay there for 3 months living off of money that SHE had given him, since he has not worked in at least 4 years.

Me and a non-pro who I am courting in Bangkok were talking about P4P the other day. She was telling me that Russian women were available in a certain location in Bangkok for 3000 baht (US$100) or so. I told her there is no way I would give a hooker that kind of money and told her how a guy in Moscow at a taco stand offered a girl to me for US$400 and I started laughing because that was a ridiculous price and I wouldn't have paid any more than $50.

Look at all the entertainers and sports figures, many of whom it is obvious that women come around them because that is where the money is. Look at the freaking music videos for {insert your deity here} sake. And recently the deal with the Secret Service in Cartagena.

Even among our own fellow citizens, male and female alike, P4P is not as shameful a thing as American society at large would have us believe. Just remember those immortal words: "IT AIN'T TRICKIN' IF YOU GOT IT!"

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1306871]That is funny. I live in Pattaya and when people ask me if I have a wife or a girlfriend there I tell them, "No way! There I could literally have a different girl every day for the rest of my life." I'm 40 now. If I live another 40 years X 365 days = 14,600 girls. I don't know if that number has even scratched the surface.[/QUOTE]Yea, but you'd have to drop 750, 000 USD or so in the process, assuming rates stay where they are now. That's a lot of dough!

I think my first wife of 6 years, plus the divorce cost me about that much in the end and the sex wasn't that great.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1306894]Yea, but you'd have to drop 750, 000 USD or so in the process, assuming rates stay where they are now. That's a lot of dough![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1306894]Yea, but you'd have to drop 750,000 USD or so in the process, assuming rates stay where they are now. That's a lot of dough![/QUOTE]Well my general rate is 1000 baht / day. So 14,600 days X 1000 baht = 14,600,000 baht. Or at today's exchange rate US$459,462, which ain't bad at all when you are talking about having a different girl every day for the next 40 years.

Perhaps. I guess it depends on your perspective. I doubt that if you add up all the money I've ever had in my entire life it would approach anything like that. I'm sure if I had it, spending it on a new girl every day would be no problemo.

[quote]A couple of minutes ago I just posted photos in the Rio thread that my own dad took of me skeeting in some chick's face down there[/quote]Sounds like a story that should be elaborated on.

The women in the DR are so attractive. There may be more there but the quality of the DR women.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1306871]That is funny. I live in Pattaya and when people ask me if I have a wife or a girlfriend there I tell them, "No way! There I could literally have a different girl every day for the rest of my life." I'm 40 now. If I live another 40 years X 365 days = 14,600 girls. I don't know if that number has even scratched the surface.[/QUOTE]

Pattaya is bigger and has a totallly different vibe and atmophere. I see DR as a weekend getaway whereas Thailand is a mongering vacation. Its a long ass flight that will set you back 1000-1500 dollars. Also, it comes down to preference and the type of girls you like. I have been with Thai women who look domincan and black with nice round asses. Genetic selection and variation will get you thais with similar body types and features with some Asian genes mixed in. Both countries have their advantages but it wouldn't be fair to compare the two as they are vastly different in size and cultute. Also, the Buddhist culture is much more tolerant of our hobby

I have been with some stunning looking Thais but whenever I am in Asia I adjust my expectations accordingly.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1306720]I agree. In several years of coming to the DR I never mentioned paid sex to ANYONE back home, not even to my best male friend. Girlfriends, yes, paid sex no. If anyone asked about prostitution in the DR (hardly ever happened) , I just said that as far as I know prostitution is legal almost everywhere in the world other than the US, including countries where I have lived in Europe.

I find it amazing that people travel in groups for paid sex, because as soon as you do that your cover is totally blown. I would not trust anyone to keep their mouth 100% shut. Online no one knows your true identity, but as soon as you meet other mongers in the flesh you have no confidentiality, so it is best to be extremely circumspect about whom you meet with, because you don't know who else they might talk to.

You should be aware also that if you have a conversation with someone and then write about the same topics here the same day, the other person might read your comments and make the connection.[/QUOTE]Last time I was in, Sosua. I was hanging at this bar, owned by an ex pat, and his wife. Everyone there knows what goes on in, Sosua, and few openly discuss it. Sort of considered poor form, I guess. A couple of guys come in (obviously green horns) , and there chiming on about women. The owners wife stormed off pissed, and she lives there! Nothing pisses women off more (especially educated ones) , than the thought, of another women having to sell herself (little do they know that the money is largely used for consumer discretionary, not staples. IE cell phones, jewelry; etc). Women are more likely to go to university then men (where I'm from anyway) , are holding political positions, and are business leaders. That can change things. I don't believe that will completely eliminate the act, but places like, Sosua? Lookat the change, driven by, the animal rights movement, the last few years? Little bit of emotional thinking, and a lot of money, goes a long way. Remember the pictures, of the dancing bears, on the street, in Asia? Boy did that ever [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] people off.

[QUOTE=Carrib; 1306937]Pattaya is bigger and has a totallly different vibe and atmophere. I see DR as a weekend getaway whereas Thailand is a mongering vacation. Its a long ass flight that will set you back 1000-1500 dollars. Also, it comes down to preference and the type of girls you like. I have been with Thai women who look domincan and black with nice round asses. Genetic selection and variation will get you thais with similar body types and features with some Asian genes mixed in. Both countries have their advantages but it wouldn't be fair to compare the two as they are vastly different in size and cultute. Also, the Buddhist culture is much more tolerant of our hobby

I have been with some stunning looking Thais but whenever I am in Asia I adjust my expectations accordingly.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'm not so worry about the difference in looks. I grew up around Dominicans in Spanish Harlem and I live in Washington Heights. I have Dominicans in my family and have been to the DR about 40 times so I've been around Dominicanas all my life; I'm not trippin on a particular look. Been there done that many times over.

However, I like what you are implying about diversity and something different. I can never understand how people limit themselves to one vacation destination. I guess those folks will ride that wave until they are forced to switch up like many mongers in Rio did when Help closed. I like hitting as many places in the world as possible.

I'm using miles so I'm good on the flight cost. What I have heard is that the the quality of service and price value on the ground is better. Mongers I know that have been to both have been telling me about much better quality of service, which is part of the Thai culture. For instance, inexpensive quality massages, soapies, etc. Pretty good food selections. A lot more stuff to do and see in general. I guess you have to come and go through BKK as a jumpoff to other locations. Also a lot of good shopping in BKK?

Don't get me wrong. I love the DR and Latin America in general. It's in my blood, but I've had a lot of good experiences with babes in the USA from Laos, Thailand and the Philippines so I'm excited about expanding my horizons.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1307012]I can never understand how people limit themselves to one vacation destination. I guess those folks will ride that wave until they are forced to switch up like many mongers in Rio did when Help closed. I like hitting as many places in the world as possible.[/QUOTE]So you can't understand that some people who have traveled to many countries in the world, have a great time in the DR and that is why they keep going back to the DR. Or maybe you don't understand that some people don't want to be in airplane for more than 3 or 4 hours. Or maybe you don't understand that some guys are not turned on by Asians or white blue eyed blondes. Or maybe you don't understand that some guys have learned Spanish and don't want to have to learn Thai or some other language.

For the price of the plane to the east $1500 I can pay for a week in the DR. So far I am loving the DR chicas and learning thai is not going to work. What ever floats your boat. I know there is a variety of asian women. Generally speaking most are small and child like in appearance. Not my cup of tea. I love my DR sisters.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1307012]Thanks. I'm not so worry about the difference in looks. I grew up around Dominicans in Spanish Harlem and I live in Washington Heights. I have Dominicans in my family and have been to the DR about 40 times so I've been around Dominicanas all my life; I'm not trippin on a particular look. Been there done that many times over.

However, I like what you are implying about diversity and something different. I can never understand how people limit themselves to one vacation destination. I guess those folks will ride that wave until they are forced to switch up like many mongers in Rio did when Help closed. I like hitting as many places in the world as possible.

I'm using miles so I'm good on the flight cost. What I have heard is that the the quality of service and price value on the ground is better. Mongers I know that have been to both have been telling me about much better quality of service, which is part of the Thai culture. For instance, inexpensive quality massages, soapies, etc. Pretty good food selections. A lot more stuff to do and see in general. I guess you have to come and go through BKK as a jumpoff to other locations. Also a lot of good shopping in BKK?

Don't get me wrong. I love the DR and Latin America in general. It's in my blood, but I've had a lot of good experiences with babes in the USA from Laos, Thailand and the Philippines so I'm excited about expanding my horizons.[/QUOTE]

This is the Sosua thread so I won't get into a long discussion about Thailand. All I can say is that every monger should experience a top tier termas in Rio and a soapie in Thailand at least once in their lives. If you have futher questions, send me a PM

[QUOTE=OldKool;1307045]For the price of the plane to the east $1500 I can pay for a week in the DR. So far I am loving the DR chicas and learning thai is not going to work. What ever floats your boat. I know there is a variety of asian women. Generally speaking most are small and child like in appearance. Not my cup of tea. I love my DR sisters.[/QUOTE]LOL. You are sadly mistaken sir. TiT (This is Thailand).

[QUOTE=OldKool;1307045]For the price of the plane to the east $1500 I can pay for a week in the DR. So far I am loving the DR chicas and learning thai is not going to work. What ever floats your boat. I love my DR sisters.[/QUOTE]I hear you. The plane ticket price is not a factor for me, but I can understand how it is for others.

Sosua has always been a fun place. I'll be there in November, as I try to stop through there, Santiago, La Vega, Mao and Puerto Plata at least once a year when I'm on the north coast.

But for the dr these are weak. I know there are all shapes and sizes there. The ladies you show are more the exception then the rule. Like showing ugly dominican women they exist. If the prices were identical I would go to the DR.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1307092]LOL. You are sadly mistaken sir. TiT (This is Thailand).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1307092]LOL. You are sadly mistaken sir. TiT (This is Thailand).[/QUOTE]Nice pics, thus your name. Yeah, I used to be crazy for Blasians and Asians at one time. Everyone comes from and goes to different places so you have to let people stay in their zone. Just like the people on here that love SDQ and hate SOS, LOL. Different strokes for different folks. As I said before, Sosua is definitely a fun place!

BTW, here is the kinda child like Wutang I like LOL

Hum. Just got a call from a Chica who said she got arrested by Politur. Then she passes the phone to a man saying she would be released if somebody comes to pick her up, and he promptly hangs up.

I know the chica. Last time I saw her was 1 h ago as she was walking to the Casino and offered me to come play along. Never went to bed with her, she does not know what hotel I am staying at. I do not believe she is the kind that would set me up for blackmail.

As much as I feel awful about abandoning her at the hands of Politur, after all the horror stories I've heard from other chicas, I will stay put. Maybe even go spend the night in Puerto Plata.

Would you do the same?

[QUOTE=Sammy Sosa; 1307116]As much as I feel awful about abandoning her at the hands of Politur, after all the horror stories I've heard from other chicas, I will stay put. Maybe even go spend the night in Puerto Plata.

Would you do the same?[/QUOTE]Just out of curiosity, why would you go and spend the night in Puerto Plata if her predicament doesn't interact with anything you are doing?

[QUOTE=Sammy Sosa; 1307116]Hum. Just got a call from a Chica who said she got arrested by Politur. Then she passes the phone to a man saying she would be released if somebody comes to pick her up, and he promptly hangs up.

I know the chica. Last time I saw her was 1 h ago as she was walking to the Casino and offered me to come play along. Never went to bed with her, she does not know what hotel I am staying at. I do not believe she is the kind that would set me up for blackmail.

As much as I feel awful about abandoning her at the hands of Politur, after all the horror stories I've heard from other chicas, I will stay put. Maybe even go spend the night in Puerto Plata.

Would you do the same?[/QUOTE]Go with your gut.

Since this is bad story week, let me add mine. One time I was walking to Seabreeze and a motochonco guy intercepts me. He says my girl Miss A is in the hospital and she needs me. Its now 3 in the morning and I'm not fucking with anybody over anything. I play dumb gringo and act like I don't know who he is talking about. I'm not hoping on the back of a bike for anything unless its a ride to the hotel. Well I forget about it until my next trip. This girl I had banged at Europa that had the same name as my girl was in the hospital. She wondered why I didn't help her. I said it wasnt my biz. She fucked my boy the day after me in the Europa jacuzzi, so why would I get involved.

BBL told me a crazy story that the owner of a certain hotel told him. There was a fight on the strip. A gringo got beat down and was bleeding. The cops were right there and did nothing. Well this hotel owner played good samaritan and took this guy for treament. After treatment a bill was due and the hotel owner had to pay. He refused because he didn't know the guy. He was thrown into the jail for a day until he paid the 5000p bill.

[QUOTE=Carrib;1307064]This is the Sosua thread so I won't get into a long discussion about Thailand. All I can say is that every monger should experience a top tier termas in Rio and a soapie in Thailand at least once in their lives. If you have futher questions, send me a PM[/QUOTE]EXACTLY! After 2 trips to the DR last year I moved jobs to Hawaii and Got the chance to hit Thailand with a Wingman I met in the DR. Lets just say been back total of 3 times in 7 months for a total of 2. 5 months vacation in LOS. UNBELIEVABLE.

BUT I do love my DR ladies and yearned to get back. T- 10 days til I return to the land of Bundas.

Fire the plane up.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1307112]Nice pics, thus your name. Yeah, I used to be crazy for Blasians and Asians at one time. Everyone comes from and goes to different places so you have to let people stay in their zone. Just like the people on here that love SDQ and hate SOS, LOL. Different strokes for different folks. As I said before, Sosua is definitely a fun place!

BTW, here is the kinda child like Wutang I like LOL[/QUOTE]

Just read this on another board. Posted today by a well-known and generally well-liked ex-pat businessman in Sosua.

[i]Today, I was arrested for apparently not paying my bar bill. I was there with 3 other people to show them what CMP was all about. Two of them are still here and one was available and came with me to tell the fiscal that the last thing I did before leaving was to pay my bill (180 pesos). I guess they don't want to hear the truth here.

I must have had one hell of a great time the hour I was there because today they presented me with a bar bill for $5, 700 pesos. I had no choice but to pay it. It's strange how this bill magically appeared after they were served with my papers.

I highly suggest that people avoid this place as the people there are desperate and will do anything to get your money. I will NEVER enter CMP again and I highly suggest anyone else who is contemplating going there, be prepared for some bullshit. [/i]

He is sueing them in court for one million pesos for assault and the case comes up next week.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1307819]Just read this on another board. Posted today by a well-known and generally well-liked ex-pat businessman in Sosua.

[i]Today, I was arrested for apparently not paying my bar bill. I was there with 3 other people to show them what CMP was all about. Two of them are still here and one was available and came with me to tell the fiscal that the last thing I did before leaving was to pay my bill (180 pesos). I guess they don't want to hear the truth here.

I must have had one hell of a great time the hour I was there because today they presented me with a bar bill for $5, 700 pesos. I had no choice but to pay it. It's strange how this bill magically appeared after they were served with my papers.

I highly suggest that people avoid this place as the people there are desperate and will do anything to get your money. I will NEVER enter CMP again and I highly suggest anyone else who is contemplating going there, be prepared for some bullshit. [/i]

He is sueing them in court for one million pesos for assault and the case comes up next week.[/QUOTE]The one thing I never do in the DR is run a tab. Every single drink brought to me I always pay for it right then and there.

Thanks for sharing this info with us. Seems that things are getting very desperate down there.

I woud love to see what they say you drank in an hour. I try not to do casas. I like to keep it personal between me and my chica. I am surprised that these guys would stoop so low. Sounds like an urban myth but you never know. I had heard good things about CMP. 150 bucks is not much money.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1307829]The one thing I never do in the DR is run a tab. Every single drink brought to me I always pay for it right then and there.

Thanks for sharing this info with us. Seems that things are getting very desperate down there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1307819]I highly suggest that people avoid this place as the people there are desperate and will do anything to get your money. I will NEVER enter CMP again and I highly suggest anyone else who is contemplating going there, be prepared for some bullshit. [/i][/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads-up and I'm sure everyone will make the appropriate decision about where to spend their money. Stuff like this is unfortunate. It's unclear if this is a problem between this person and CMP or this is generalizable because it is a business practice that is affecting others.

I've read complaints about Pasions, CMP, Terra Linda, Rocky's, New Garden, etc. Personally, I haven't had a problem at any of these places. In fact, I've sat in CMP for at least a half hour groping chicas and letting them play with my guevo before deciding to buy a Presidente so I can't say they ever did me wrong. I will, however, make a note of the complaint and keep my eyes open.

Recent events just prove you have to be prepared. It is all up to you how you roll but here are my thoughts. You have to be prepared no matter what as safety is rule number one of this hobby. Assume you being innocent and accused at your first step at the airport. Think about those simple steps a) Most always stand by your price but not in all cases, otherwise prices will escalate fast and things deteriorate and you will be known as pendejo and open for future scams b) stay at really GF place which has proven in the past to stand by the guests c) appreciate your night security watchman d) always take girl's picture, her cedula, let a security write down time in and time out and take a picture on the way out, on a concho and / or escort her to a public place back e) dump a girl at the first sign of suspicion, do not take her for a ride, follow good interview, do not take girls which fall into 'lost in translation category f) name a gift amount before if you up to that g) if the girl does not want to leave your room then leave it yourself and ask for security help, meaning your shit has to be locked always ready for this case h) always know before head whom to call, including Politur patrulla, your lawyer etc I) always have access to emergency cash j) never reveal anything to chica, name, travel details, telephone etc k) be ready for Plan B, C, D etc including rapid ways to leave the country l) understand procedure practice in DR, how things work in practice m) know yourself and) know what have you done and level of a charge against you o) understand and know your adversaries, . Fuck. Have a nice trip!

[QUOTE=Questner;1307916]Recent events just prove you have to be prepared. It is all up to you how you roll but here are my thoughts. You have to be prepared no matter what as safety is rule number one of this hobby. Assume you being innocent and accused at your first step at the airport. Think about those simple steps a) Most always stand by your price but not in all cases, otherwise prices will escalate fast and things deteriorate and you will be known as pendejo and open for future scams b) stay at really GF place which has proven in the past to stand by the guests c) appreciate your night security watchman d) always take girl's picture, her cedula, let a security write down time in and time out and take a picture on the way out, on a concho and / or escort her to a public place back e) dump a girl at the first sign of suspicion, do not take her for a ride, follow good interview, do not take girls which fall into 'lost in translation category f) name a gift amount before if you up to that g) if the girl does not want to leave your room then leave it yourself and ask for security help, meaning your shit has to be locked always ready for this case h) always know before head whom to call, including Politur patrulla, your lawyer etc I) always have access to emergency cash j) never reveal anything to chica, name, travel details, telephone etc k) be ready for Plan B, C, D etc including rapid ways to leave the country l) understand procedure practice in DR, how things work in practice m) know yourself and) know what have you done and level of a charge against you o) understand and know your adversaries, . Fuck. Have a nice trip![/QUOTE]And someone get pics of the crooked fucking cops and chicas or dudes, this is important, you can forward the pics to Dominican Today or Dominican Watchdog and get them fired or Jailed.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1307847]Thanks for the heads-up and I'm sure everyone will make the appropriate decision about where to spend their money.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify. The recommendation not to visit CMP was not mine but from the guy I was quoting. Everything in italics was his words, not mine.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1307835]I woud love to see what they say you drank in an hour.[/QUOTE]
Again, his drinking not mine. I wasn't there. Just quoting a post from another board because I know from trusted witnesses that it was substantially true, though not necessarily the whole story. I don't spend 5700 pesos on alcohol in a month!

Just returned from St. Martin and wanted to make an observation I just thought about comparing the 2 experiences.

Not talking about number of chicas, prices, service, selection. My entire trip to SXM, not one person asked / expected a tip for anything they did for you. Never a hand out, no begging; Buy a drink and pay for it. If you tip, that's ok too. The people at the hotel were extremely friendly, always saying hello, how are you today, how's everything. They just seemed to be more friendly, where Sosua seemed to be more hustle. Not saying that there were not nice, friendly people in Sosua. Just nowhere near as plentiful as St. Martin.

The chicas were more plentiful, more good choices, and cheaper options for the same service. Not trying to compare that aspect of the 2 trips.

I had to be careful to not get the wrong impression in SXM. When a pretty girl would walk past you and say hello in Sosua, she wanted to go to your room. In SXM, they were just being friendly. Mixing the 2 could get you in a heap of trouble, LOL.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1308066]The chicas were more plentiful, more good choices, and cheaper options for the same service. Not trying to compare that aspect of the 2 trips.[/QUOTE]This part of your post is unclear. Where were the "the chicas more plentiful. Cheaper. Etc"? I assume you mean they were more plentiful in Sosua because if the other way round few people would ever want to visit the DR for mongering with all its squalor?

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1308089]This part of your post is unclear. Where were the "the chicas more plentiful. Cheaper. Etc"? I assume you mean they were more plentiful in Sosua because if the other way round few people would ever want to visit the DR for mongering with all its squalor?[/QUOTE]Sorry if I was not clear on this, Sir Charles. The chica aspect was better in Sosua, although I did find the best one in SXM. TLN in Sosua for 3000 pesos (I know I'm on the high side) compared to the $450 I was quoted in El Capitan in SXM (which was probably a little on their high side). You have a $250 bar fine for taking a girl out of their rotation for the evening.

There was, maybe. 150 chicas in the 7 chica bars in SXM. I think there were more than that in Merangue Bar my last night. You do have a choice of Colombians and Dominicans in SXM. Even ran into a Jamacian one night. Sosua, it's Dominicans (go figure) and Hatians.

Chances of picking up a local in SXM would be no different than any other place. In Sosua, it's seems to be a regular thing. Picking up a local in SXM could be nice, be / see they have many beautiful, young things there.

The other difference is in Sosua, mongering is everywhere, excepted, and very out in the open. In SXM, it's limited to the brothels. That being said, it does not seem to be look down upon. There are brothels next to churches, recreation centers, neighborhoods, etc. Nobody looks at you strange for going into one, etc. In retrospect, there are bikini bars in the states that catch shit from the religious groups. That's why they call the US "sex prison".

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1308066]Just returned from St. Martin and wanted to make an observation I just thought about comparing the 2 experiences.

Not talking about number of chicas, prices, service, selection. My entire trip to SXM, not one person asked / expected a tip for anything they did for you. Never a hand out, no begging; Buy a drink and pay for it. If you tip, that's ok too. The people at the hotel were extremely friendly, always saying hello, how are you today, how's everything. They just seemed to be more friendly, where Sosua seemed to be more hustle. Not saying that there were not nice, friendly people in Sosua. Just nowhere near as plentiful as St. Martin.[/QUOTE]St. Martin is a much higher wage economy, so not directly comparable to the DR. Higher cost of housing, food, health care, transportation. St. Martin is is an overseas collectivity of France and the euro is the official currency. The other half (Sint Maarten) is part of the Netherlands. The waitstaff are fairly well paid, but of course you pay for this in the cost of the meal, so tips are not necessarily expected.

Just arrived yesterday. Even though I was very tired I went out for a scroll last night. There seem to be plenty of chicas in the bars around the Classicos Disco and not many mongers. Maybe that was because it was still early (around 9. 30 pm) , but in any case there were many many girls alone. As time passed by more chicas were arriving to the area waiting for the Disco to open. I left before that, but decided to stop by Passions for a beer. Again, plenty of girls and not many guys around. I had a quick beer, chatted with a girl for a while, and then headed home for a very needed sleep. Today I am expecting to meet some semi-pros I met through Badoo. Right now is off to the beach. If any of you is around and want to chat a beer just drop me a PM.

[QUOTE=Questner;1307916]Fuck. Have a nice trip![/QUOTE]Good advice.

US citizens might want to have the emergency number of the US Embassy in Santo Domingo, stored in their US cell phone and their DR cell phone. A guy a know, called them at night, when some policia were trying to get money from him. The person at the US Embassy helped him that night over the phone.

From the US Embassy [url]http://santodomingo.usembassy.gov/acs-e-contact.html[/url] In Dominican Republic:

"If you have an emergency involving the death, arrest or hospitalization of an American citizen, or a missing American citizen, please call 809-221-2171. When the prompts ask you to enter the extension, enter 0 and tell the operator you have an emergency. For general information you may e-mail us at SDOAmericans@state.gov."

Guys from the UK or other countries might want to get a phone number for their Embassy in the DR.

The price for sex is more then in the US $ 250, $ 450 in St Martin. Compared to Sosua $50 why is this a discusion. Apples and Oranges.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1308100]St. Martin is a much higher wage economy, so not directly comparable to the DR. Higher cost of housing, food, health care, transportation. St. Martin is is an overseas collectivity of France and the euro is the official currency. The other half (Sint Maarten) is part of the Netherlands. The waitstaff are fairly well paid, but of course you pay for this in the cost of the meal, so tips are not necessarily expected.[/QUOTE]

I forgot to mension and I am sure you will all like to know that while I was staying at Mary Rose apartment you can buy Sildenafil (Viagra) and Mambo from Latino Mini Market in Sosua. You get 96 in a box of the viagra for Road$975 for the box when they charged me Road$200 for 4 on the street and Road$600 for a box of Mambo Tadalafil with 30 in a box. I took 3 boxes home and sold them for US$8 each so hey this will pay for my next flight. Latino Mini not far from NG Check them out on Google Earth or just go to the store and ask for a box or two.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1308153]The price for sex is more then in the US $ 250, $ 450 in St Martin. Compared to Sosua $50 why is this a discusion. Apples and Oranges.[/QUOTE]The $450 was for a TLN from a brothel. The club gets the money, and takes the girls cut to pay off their outlay for bringing the girl there / rent / food / medical. Once she has paid it off, you can probably get her for a little less.

A session in the club with a girl is usually $50 plus the room ($3 to $10). Sessions are usually about 1/2 hour. Sosua is definitely a better deal financially.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1308051]Just to clarify. The recommendation not to visit CMP was not mine but from the guy I was quoting. Everything in italics was his words, not mine.[/QUOTE]Ooh OK, cool. Well here are the prices so don't know if they changed? [url]http://www.prices.cmp-club.de/#home[/url]

Simple bunk and hook rooms run in Sos. At 200 peso or $5 daily with $25 a day moderate long term rentals. There is no way one can find it in SXM (sex for more!). In Sos. For $200 a night you will get a top shelf delivery wrapped from Santiago DLC. Folks who can afford real SXM do not post on this board (with rare exception)

What has happened to the Sosua bay beach club / Victoria house complex? I read a review from April on Tripadvisor saying the place had gone way downhill and had closed down, is that definitely a fact? If so are there any plans to revive the place, any new owners on the horizon? Seems a shame that such a potentially great hotel with a perfect location will just lay abandoned.

What is the current Taxi price from STI to the bus terminal. Flying in Wednesdayat12:45pm. I would split a ride straight to Sosua, but I'm not paying that solo. All of my friends are flying to POP.

I may have the added benefit of making a new friend on the bus ride to Sosua! .

[QUOTE=Questner;1308311]. In Sos. For $200 a night you will get a top shelf delivery wrapped from Santiago DLC. Folks who can afford real SXM do not post on this board (with rare exception)[/QUOTE]Please point out those rich mofos! I could use a grand for gas in the hoe boat for tomarrow.

The bus ride is very pleasant and cost like 6 bucks and you can meet someone. I would never pay for 40, 50 dollar cab. You can also get snacks and drinks for the ride at the station. I think you have a good plan.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1308831]What is the current Taxi price from STI to the bus terminal. Flying in Wednesdayat12:45pm. I would split a ride straight to Sosua, but I'm not paying that solo. All of my friends are flying to POP.

I may have the added benefit of making a new friend on the bus ride to Sosua! .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1308842]The bus ride is very pleasant and cost like 6 bucks and you can meet someone. I would never pay for 40, 50 dollar cab. You can also get snacks and drinks for the ride at the station. I think you have a good plan.[/QUOTE]Get to the bus station early, buy your ticket and wait for the bus to come in, be first in line for a front row seat, Metro buses have the best windows for a panoramic view of some awesome scenery. This is a beautiful country.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1308842]The bus ride is very pleasant and cost like 6 bucks and you can meet someone. I would never pay for 40, 50 dollar cab. You can also get snacks and drinks for the ride at the station. I think you have a good plan.[/QUOTE]How much to get to the bus terminal?

[QUOTE=LeroyUS;1308189]I forgot to mension and I am sure you will all like to know that while I was staying at Mary Rose apartment you can buy Sildenafil (Viagra) and Mambo from Latino Mini Market in Sosua. You get 96 in a box of the viagra for Road$975 for the box when they charged me Road$200 for 4 on the street and Road$600 for a box of Mambo Tadalafil with 30 in a box. I took 3 boxes home and sold them for US$8 each so hey this will pay for my next flight. Latino Mini not far from NG Check them out on Google Earth or just go to the store and ask for a box or two.[/QUOTE]I can confirm what Leroy said about buying Sildenafil (box of 96 pills) for $975 Dominican pesos at the Mini Market Latino. If you want to find the market, from the corner of Rosen and Alejo Martinez start walking away from the Sosua Beach, pass the baseball field that is behind the New Garden hotel. Keep going and you will cross Dave Stern street, the next street you will cross is Ayuntamiento. The mini market is just half a block after Ayuntamiento street on the right hand side. There is a big green President beer sign on front of it. You can't miss it.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1308841]Please point out those rich mofos! I could use a grand for gas in the hoe boat for tomarrow.[/QUOTE]Nah, indeed. No snitching allowed. We need you to subsidize our endeavors, ha-ha!

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2;1308861]How much to get to the bus terminal?[/QUOTE]It should be around 20 dollars or so.

I will be next month in Sosua.

I stay in Casa Marina.

Can I take a girl to my room?

[QUOTE=Steviwonder13; 1309450]I will be next month in Sosua.

I stay in Casa Marina.

Can I take a girl to my room?[/QUOTE]It's ok with me. How's everybody else feel?

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1309532]It's ok with me. How's everybody else feel?[/QUOTE]Personally I am not too comfortable with the idea. Still, I guess I am just an old fogey, so I am going to say "yes" on the strict understanding that there is no physical contact between them and that she leaves before dark.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1309532]It's ok with me. How's everybody else feel?[/QUOTE]It's OK with me too but Casa Marina may not be see it the same way!

[QUOTE=SteviWonder13; 1309450]I will be next month in Sosua.

I stay in Casa Marina.

Can I take a girl to my room?[/QUOTE]Absolutely NOT. Where do you THINK you're at DOMINICAN REPUBLIC?

Don't even THINK ABOUT IT. And make sure you EAT all your VEGGIES! And your curfew is 6:30pm on weekdays, and 6:35pm, on weekends. Or your GROUNDED. Lmao!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1308291]Ooh OK, cool. Well here are the prices so don't know if they changed?

[url]http://www.prices.cmp-club.de/#home[/url][/QUOTE]This place will not be open much longer after their last little stunt.

[QUOTE=Buscemi;1309637]This place will not be open much longer after their last little stunt.[/QUOTE]Not sure I agree with you. A boycott of CMP by the members of two w h o r e
boards still represents a very small percentage of visitors to Pedro Clisante.

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt; 1309629]Absolutely NOT. Where do you THINK you're at DOMINICAN REPUBLIC?

Don't even THINK ABOUT IT. And make sure you EAT all your VEGGIES! And your curfew is 6:30pm on weekdays, and 6:35pm, on weekends. Or your GROUNDED. Lmao![/QUOTE]LOL. I think we have had enough fun at the poor OP's expense. Someone please give him a straight answer to his question. I could, but it is better coming from a Sosua expert.

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[QUOTE=SteviWonder13; 1309450]I will be next month in Sosua.

I stay in Casa Marina.

Can I take a girl to my room?[/QUOTE]If she is a guest at the hotel, yes no problem, or if she registers at the hotel with you. Or maybe even if she is an employee. Can you bring a prostitute off the street to your room there? No. You might try the Dulce Secreto cabanas (easily located by motoconcho) which are very nice. The executive suites are about 900 pesos and have a jacuzzi, lots of mirrors so you can reflect on what you are doing, and are air conditioned.

[QUOTE=Llttf; 1309664]Not sure I agree with you. A boycott of CMP by the members of two w h o are e

Boards still represents a very small percentage of visitors to Pedro Clisante.[/QUOTE]I guess I missed something. Why would the members of this forum boycott the chicas from CMP?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1310039]I guess I missed something. Why would the members of this forum boycott the chicas from CMP?[/QUOTE]Because a well respected ex-pat business owner in Sosua was ripped off, beaten, arrested and shook down by the management and staff of CMP. It has been suggested that members of this board and eye-sock do not support such a business.

Supposedly the guy was charged 5700 pesos for 300 peso of drinks. He is well known expat. This makes no sence. There has to be more to the story. You can pay 5700 for 2 chicas there. I think there has got to be more going on then we know. Hearing only one side is nver enough.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1310040]Because a well respected ex-pat business owner in Sosua was ripped off, beaten, arrested and shook down by the management and staff of CMP. It has been suggested that members of this board and eye-sock do not support such a business.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1310080]Supposedly the guy was charged 5700 pesos for 300 peso of drinks. He is well known expat. This makes no sence. There has to be more to the story. You can pay 5700 for 2 chicas there. I think there has got to be more going on then we know. Hearing only one side is nver enough.[/QUOTE]He was charged 600 pesos for a beer and some fancy drink that a chica ordered. The 5700 pesos was the amount he paid to the fiscal after he was arrested, this was what was needed to stop it going before a judge. There are other angles to this story and the ex-pat involved had some history with CMP which may have contributed to the situation.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1310014]If she is a guest at the hotel, yes no problem, or if she registers at the hotel with you. Or maybe even if she is an employee. Can you bring a prostitute off the street to your room there? No. You might try the Dulce Secreto cabanas (easily located by motoconcho) which are very nice. The executive suites are about 900 pesos and have a jacuzzi, lots of mirrors so you can reflect on what you are doing, and are air conditioned.[/QUOTE]Hey Frannie.

Can you describe where Dulce Secreto is? I was looking for it on my last visit but couldn't find it. It sounds like a great option for those

(like me) who are a bit hesitant to bring girls back to their place.

[QUOTE=Bimmy5; 1306647]I have been going to Sosua for 5 years and have known or worked with people in the DR way before that. The first thing I want to say is that only a moron would say that the people in the DR think of sex tourists as scum and wish they would go away. The men in that country are mostly doing the same thing we are.

As long as we are friends they don't care about our purpose. I think people can't understand that the attitude towards P4P and sex is far different in every democracy in the world than it is in the US. If you read history you'll know why.

The crackdown in Sosua came about for several reason that have never been dicussed here. So did the end of the crackdown. The first thing the crackdown proved is that yes Sosua is dependent on P4P as the current situation stands and it's going to take much to change that. This is not true in most of the rest of the country. But what most people from the US don't understand is that most people in the DR, as most other democracies, don't care about P4P one way or the other. It's been around forever. If the DR did get rid of P4P it would not be because of the people in the DR, it would be because of pressure from groups in the US.

As for that crackdown itself I think Soaua is far better now and it is certaily far safer. The riff-raff and minors are mostly gone. The chica scene has returned to the beach and the beach merchants are doing much better. There is still some politur action residue from the crackdown but that's generally for a specific case.

The mongers are back and the town is thriving as well as it can thrive.[/QUOTE]I'm not here for a history lesson but would like a brief update of the crackdown and when it ended. Here is why:

I am an old timer but have only been to the DR twice. The first time was in 1993. There was loads of action in Sosua and Santo Domingo. The Pyramid Disco (I think that was the name) in Sosua in '93 was terrific and had loads and loads of available girls. There was also the Moby Dick Disco. Other bars too, but those 2 discos were the main attractions. I returned to the DR for my second and final trip in 1999 or 2000 or around then. The scene in Sosua was greatly reduced. There were a few bars with girls, but nothing like my first trip. Someone told me that the cops had cracked down 3 or 4 years before, which would make it the late 90's. Even Santo Domingo had much less action than on my first visit.

I was pleasantly surprised to read on this board that the action is back in Sosua, so I am planning to go there this Fall. I had assumed that the crackdown was still in effect, which I see now is not true.

Could anyone update me briefly about the crackdown. About when did the crackdown start and end, and the reasons for starting and ending it. This is not of great importance, but I am just curious.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1310131]Yo Deep why waste your breath. You can obviously see this dude was dropped as a child. Hes posting like a retarded Flavor Flav on crack. Ranting about "Eastside boy beating up the Westside pussies". WHAT THE FUCK are you talking about. This is a Sosua forum board NOT World Star Hip Hop. The way he was talking I thought it was the 95 Source awards lmao.

I've seen some retarded post in my time but that post from Eastcoast Gangsta A to Z LOL, has got to be the worst post of ALL TIME. Now true to his character he's got to come back and write some more ignorant, ima beat your ass over this computer, keeping it REAL DUMB post.

Yo Deep its going to be classic. Azazel next post to snap back at us for calling out his stupidity err I mean "gangsta" will start out like this,"Yo Coolie you and Deep can suck a fat D$&. If I see you on the street ima whip yo ass. I'm the biggest fakest talking keyboard thug on this board. And that's real rap. Respect my Gangsta" LMFAO[/QUOTE]Yo Coolie High, couldn't have said it myself. Yeah Ol Boy 'Ass-Is-Stale' or whatever the phuck his name is. 1995. Source Awards. Coolie High you had to go there. LOL. I promised Jackson I would only post 'BANDWIDTH WORTHY INFO'so Ill leave it at that, maybe I can get my boy Lugzagsi to strap on a Iron Dildo and waxed, Ol boy Mr Ass-Is-Stale.

Eastcoast 48 hour coward. 'Weekend Gansta'ya probaly a janitor on Wall Street'. Let me stop. Coolie High wrecked his punk ass. So enuff said.

[QUOTE=Henry R; 1310113]I'm not here for a history lesson but would like a brief update of the crackdown and when it ended. Here is why:

I am an old timer but have only been to the DR twice. The first time was in 1993. There was loads of action in Sosua and Santo Domingo. The Pyramid Disco (I think that was the name) in Sosua in '93 was terrific and had loads and loads of available girls. There was also the Moby Dick Disco. Other bars too, but those 2 discos were the main attractions. I returned to the DR for my second and final trip in 1999 or 2000 or around then. The scene in Sosua was greatly reduced. There were a few bars with girls, but nothing like my first trip. Someone told me that the cops had cracked down 3 or 4 years before, which would make it the late 90's. Even Santo Domingo had much less action than on my first visit.

I was pleasantly surprised to read on this board that the action is back in Sosua, so I am planning to go there this Fall. I had assumed that the crackdown was still in effect, which I see now is not true.

Could anyone update me briefly about the crackdown. About when did the crackdown start and end, and the reasons for starting and ending it. This is not of great importance, but I am just curious.[/QUOTE]The persecution of Haitians has not subsided!

[QUOTE=Combo; 1310085]Hey Frannie.

Can you describe where Dulce Secreto is? I was looking for it on my last visit but couldn't find it. It sounds like a great option for those

(like me) who are a bit hesitant to bring girls back to their place.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is up Calle Alejandro Martinez towards Playa Chiquita (past Latino Minimarket) and then down a short sidestreet to the left, but you can easily see it from the main road. It is not in any sense hard to find.

It is not very far from the center, but you probably would not want to walk it on a hot day, and a chica certainly would not. Any motoconcho will take you. For some reason it never gets mentioned on this board.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1310080]Supposedly the guy was charged 5700 pesos for 300 peso of drinks. He is well known expat. This makes no sence. There has to be more to the story. You can pay 5700 for 2 chicas there. I think there has got to be more going on then we know. Hearing only one side is nver enough.[/QUOTE]Not to call the man a liar but as usual there is more to the story than 300 for drinks. Anyone boycotting CMP for this is avoiding a descent place for nothing. Second post on here riling up others for their own personal grievances. We have all seen others get the yanky / gringo treatment but it gets tiresome when some use it as a cover for retribution and blow back for their own battles they engage in (ill show you, ill ruin your business. )

This is why I avoid some of you like the plague. Been here going on a month and other than the normal overcharges and tout antics its been pretty nice. Monger trip turned into pretty damn good holiday. Almost been monogamous by Dominican stands. Kind a fun sneaking out to fuckins.

As for the crackdowns, they always occurs for three basic reasons:

1. The state or business has plans for that area
2. International pressure to show your doing something
3. Natural and needed message sent by law enforcement to stay in bounds. SWs must be shown the limits of the track

[QUOTE=Henry R; 1310113]I'm not here for a history lesson but would like a brief update of the crackdown and when it ended. Here is why:

I am an old timer but have only been to the DR twice. The first time was in 1993. There was loads of action in Sosua and Santo Domingo. The Pyramid Disco (I think that was the name) in Sosua in '93 was terrific and had loads and loads of available girls. There was also the Moby Dick Disco. Other bars too, but those 2 discos were the main attractions. I returned to the DR for my second and final trip in 1999 or 2000 or around then. The scene in Sosua was greatly reduced. .[/QUOTE]There was a Disco called high caribe. It was a very big place and nice to talk to the ladies. I guess it was closed down because a drug related murder took place there.

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce;1310182]This is why I avoid some of you like the plague. Been here going on a month and other than the normal overcharges and tout antics its been pretty nice. Monger trip turned into pretty damn good holiday. Almost been monogamous by Dominican stands. Kind a fun sneaking out to fuckins.[/QUOTE]You've been in Sosua for a month? I thought a previous post said you were up in the mountains?

Last night I went to the Rumba bar, bought a beer, and sat to enjoy the view. A chica that I chatted with on my previous visit to that bar came and sat with me. She was fun to talk with but a little too aggressive for my taste. I wanted to be with a chica and even though I was not fully sure about her I still took her back to my place for a short time. Well, what promised to be a GFE ended up in a bad experience. The promise to DFK quickly vanished, she only was willing to do CBJ instead of BBBJ, she was faking the 'oh papi. Oh papi', she complained I was too big. At the end she pissed me off so much that I stood up and told her to get dress. Her first reaction was like 'what did I do wrong? ' and immediately after she asked me if I was going to pay her anyway. I did pay her the agreed amount. After some of the reports here the last thing I wanted was to get into deep trouble to save 20 bucks. Unfortunately, I do not have a picture of her so you are warned. I guess I am going to Passions today to get the bad taste of last night experience out of my mouth.

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce; 1310182]Not to call the man a liar but as usual there is more to the story than 300 for drinks. Anyone boycotting CMP for this is avoiding a descent place for nothing. Second post on here riling up others for their own personal grievances. We have all seen others get the yanky / gringo treatment but it gets tiresome when some use it as a cover for retribution and blow back for their own battles they engage in (ill show you, ill ruin your business.)

This is why I avoid some of you like the plague. Been here going on a month and other than the normal overcharges and tout antics its been pretty nice. Monger trip turned into pretty damn good holiday. Almost been monogamous by Dominican stands. Kind a fun sneaking out to fuckins.

As for the crackdowns, they always occurs for three basic reasons:

1. The state or business has plans for that area

2. International pressure to show your doing something

3. Natural and needed message sent by law enforcement to stay in bounds. SWs must be shown the limits of the track[/QUOTE]I was there. You are an idiot.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1310152]The persecution of Haitians has not subsided![/QUOTE]My guess is that some condo / villa developers and some condo / villa owners, want to market Sosua as a charming town with some nightlife. People building and buying expensive condominium and villa properties, probably have more clout with the local government, than the average monger who visits Sosua. One ISG member who prefers Sosua, calls some of the women on pedro clisante street rats and has posted that at least one condo owner at el neptuno will not welcome such women at the pool at the condo building el neptuno in sosua.

Seems they might be trying a form of gentrification in Sosua.

Charles Pooter and Frannie prefer Haitians, both of those guys stay in Puerto Plata.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1310014]If she is a guest at the hotel, yes no problem, or if she registers at the hotel with you. Or maybe even if she is an employee. Can you bring a prostitute off the street to your room there? No. You might try the Dulce Secreto cabanas (easily located by motoconcho) which are very nice. The executive suites are about 900 pesos and have a jacuzzi, lots of mirrors so you can reflect on what you are doing, and are air conditioned.[/QUOTE]Can I stay one hour there or also a whole night with a chica.

It is very clear you are an ass. So your boy probably is to. CMP is not that desparate so something smells.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1310249]I was there. You are an idiot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SteviWonder13;1310259]Can I stay one hour there or also a whole night with a chica.[/QUOTE]Cabanas usually rent for 2 to 4 hours. They will rent for the night if business is slack but you would need to negotiate the price. Usual room prices are 300 to 600. No doubt cost more in Sosua like most things.

Even when I have a Hotel I will use a cabana. They are very inexpensive and well equipped. Music, food and King size bed it is all there. I have always wondered if they had delivery service. Say your plane gets in very late can you go to the cabana and they call a chica for you. It seems plausible. Usually you pay in 4 hour increments. However I think everything is negotiable. When you go to the Cabana the chica know what is up.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1310305]Cabanas usually rent for 2 to 4 hours. They will rent for the night if business is slack but you would need to negotiate the price. Usual room prices are 300 to 600. No doubt cost more in Sosua like most things.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Buscemi;1309571]It is a beautiful public beach. The chairs / umbrellas belong to the resort and may be "rented". Be careful of the undertow, it is wicked and no lifeguard to save your ass. This belongs in The Sosua section, BTW![/QUOTE]Photos that I took of the beaches that guests at the casa marina reef / beach hotel, can sometimes use. Photos were taken many years ago. Sometimes access to the water is blocked because of the waves. Sometimes access to the reef beach was blocked because of the waves. The reef beach has a second set of stairs that I assume the public can use.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1310305]Cabanas usually rent for 2 to 4 hours. They will rent for the night if business is slack but you would need to negotiate the price. Usual room prices are 300 to 600. No doubt cost more in Sosua like most things.[/QUOTE]There are higher end and lower end.

One beautifull young girl I met in Sosua stayed in one which was like condo. She did not have her cedula with her and suggested I stay at her place.

She took me to a cabana in Purto Plata town. On entering there is a gate and she shouted into the speaker that she is staying in cabana number and her name. Gate opened and the attendant also opened the garage door of the unit.

Once I parked the car and closed garage door entered what looked like a regular hotel room with all amenities.

You can call the reception and order food and drinks. They pass it through a revolving counter attached to the wall. You need to pay cash.

It looks like you can get anything round the clock because by the time we were there it was already 1 am.

This girl was from La Vega and routinely rents this cabana according to the number of days she stays. She said she usually goes to Casino, high end discos to find customers. On that perticular day I picked her up she was at Sosua disco.

When I asked her about what she does for transportation if she does not find a customer she said transport by way of shared van is available round the clock anywhere in DR.

She was very GFE but infortunately she was going back the next day I could not pursuade her to spend more days with me. I guess she has made enough money on this trip and need to give the money to her family. However she promised to come back following week but I was leaving.

I believe this Cabana caters to people who have cars and can bring their liassons in complete privacy.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1310347]There are higher end and lower end.

One beautifull young girl I met in Sosua stayed in one which was like condo. She did not have her cedula with her and suggested I stay at her place.

She took me to a cabana in Purto Plata town. On entering there is a gate and she shouted into the speaker that she is staying in cabana number and her name. Gate opened and the attendant also opened the garage door of the unit.

Once I parked the car and closed garage door entered what looked like a regular hotel room with all amenities.

You can call the reception and order food and drinks. They pass it through a revolving counter attached to the wall. You need to pay cash.

It looks like you can get anything round the clock because by the time we were there it was already 1 am.

This girl was from La Vega and routinely rents this cabana according to the number of days she stays. She said she usually goes to Casino, high end discos to find customers. On that perticular day I picked her up she was at Sosua disco.

When I asked her about what she does for transportation if she does not find a customer she said transport by way of shared van is available round the clock anywhere in DR.

She was very GFE but infortunately she was going back the next day I could not pursuade her to spend more days with me. I guess she has made enough money on this trip and need to give the money to her family. However she promised to come back following week but I was leaving.

I believe this Cabana caters to people who have cars and can bring their liassons in complete privacy.[/QUOTE]I stay at a great one when I hunt in Puerto Plata, but don't want the drama at my condo. It's 29usd for all day and night. It has a kitchenette, bedroom and living room. Also AC and WIFI. And in the apartments the kitchen door opens to the pool about three feet away. Late night skinny dipping is okay. Can't put the name and number here but PM me if you need it.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1310347]There are higher end and lower end. I believe this Cabana caters to people who have cars and can bring their liassons in complete privacy.[/QUOTE]You can take a taxi to a cabaña or a moto or drive a car there (or walk in if you like). Most cabañas will call a taxi or a moto for you when you want to exit.

Bora Bora is one of the nicest Cabañas in Santiago. Theme rooms (Caribbean, African etc) , Executive and basic rooms. Some Cabaña rooms are two floors. Just about all Cabañas have a menu that you can order from, food and drink. Room rentals are usually for 4 hours, but you can stay as long you want, as long as you pay. Rates usually from 250 pesos and up (depending the amount of time, the time of day and the day of the week). Friday and Saturday nights some Cabañas will have no available rooms. Excellent air conditioning in the nicer Cabañas. Hot and cold water, videos and music, sex chairs, jacuzzis and stripper poles in some Cabañas. You are given clean towels, a small bar of soap, a small package of pussy soap, usually two pieces of candy. After you enter the room, the phone will ring, asking you if you want anything to drink or to eat. After a few minutes, you will hear a buzz or a knock on a small door in the wall, where you will receive what you ordered and the towels, soap, condoms, also the bill. The worker at the cabaña can't see you and you can't see him. When you are done, you just exit through the garage of the room (each room has a parking space with a garage door, after entering through the open garage door, you touch a button on the wall to close the garage door, which also signals that the room is now occupied).

Some pics I took of two rooms at Bora Bora Cabaña in Santiago. I let these two women choose the rooms. One chose the Caribbean theme room (two floors with a jacuzzi, about 1300 pesos) , the other room was Ejecutivo with a jacuzzi and skylight, for around 800-900 pesos.

They have the same system in Guadalajara, I used to date a girl down there and when I would visit we'd use one occasionally because she was living with family. It's the same in Tokyo too with love hotels and I think almost anywhere in the world where it is common to have multiple generations of a family living together places like that not only do well but are basically a necessity.

You can not beat the price or convience of cabanas. The girls get more sexual in the surrounding. Jacuzzi stripper poles you name it. Few hotels can compare. Every city in the DR has them.

[QUOTE=Savethe7;1310417]They have the same system in Guadalajara, I used to date a girl down there and when I would visit we'd use one occasionally because she was living with family. It's the same in Tokyo too with love hotels and I think almost anywhere in the world where it is common to have multiple generations of a family living together places like that not only do well but are basically a necessity.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1310398]You can take a taxi to a cabaña or a moto or drive a car there (or walk in if you like). Most cabañas will call a taxi or a moto for you when you want to exit.

Bora Bora is one of the nicest Cabañas in Santiago. Theme rooms (Caribbean, African etc) , Executive and basic rooms. Some Cabaña rooms are two floors. Just about all Cabañas have a menu that you can order from, food and drink. Room rentals are usually for 4 hours, but you can stay as long you want, as long as you pay. Rates usually from 250 pesos and up (depending the amount of time, the time of day and the day of the week). Friday and Saturday nights some Cabañas will have no available rooms. Excellent air conditioning in the nicer Cabañas. Hot and cold water, videos and music, sex chairs, jacuzzis and stripper poles in some Cabañas. You are given clean towels, a small bar of soap, a small package of pussy soap, usually two pieces of candy. After you enter the room, the phone will ring, asking you if you want anything to drink or to eat. After a few minutes, you will hear a buzz or a knock on a small door in the wall, where you will receive what you ordered and the towels, soap, condoms, also the bill. The worker at the cabaña can't see you and you can't see him. When you are done, you just exit through the garage of the room (each room has a parking space with a garage door, after entering through the open garage door, you touch a button on the wall to close the garage door, which also signals that the room is now occupied).

Some pics I took of two rooms at Bora Bora Cabaña in Santiago. I let these two women choose the rooms. One chose the Caribbean theme room (two floors with a jacuzzi, about 1300 pesos) , the other room was Ejecutivo with a jacuzzi and skylight, for around 800-900 pesos.[/QUOTE]Hey Jao curious have you stayed in a cabana for an extended stay like if you stayed in a hotel room? I've given serious thought into staying at a really nice cabana instead of a hotel when I finally come to SDQ. I mean seriously those cabanas are VERLY nicely built. Hell when I used one in the SU I was amazed how clean it was. The bed was nicer then the bed I have at home. Hell they had a nice flat screen and whatever you want to eat or drink at any hour was a buzz away.

So I was wondering if I ever decided to stay at a cabana for a few days would it cost me alot or would it be on par with staying at a nice small villa or hotel room

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1310551]Hey Jao curious have you stayed in a cabana for an extended stay like if you stayed in a hotel room? I've given serious thought into staying at a really nice cabana instead of a hotel when I finally come to SDQ. I mean seriously those cabanas are VERLY nicely built. Hell when I used one in the SU I was amazed how clean it was. The bed was nicer then the bed I have at home. Hell they had a nice flat screen and whatever you want to eat or drink at any hour was a buzz away.

So I was wondering if I ever decided to stay at a cabana for a few days would it cost me alot or would it be on par with staying at a nice small villa or hotel room[/QUOTE]I stayed overnight in one near STI. I had to vist 6 before 1 could understand the concept. I even had it written in Espanol! These are som very dumb people.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1310552]I stayed overnight in one near STI. I had to vist 6 before 1 could understand the concept. I even had it written in Espanol! These are som very dumb people.[/QUOTE]Sidney, it's not that they were dumb at all. Just because they lack a formal education doesn't make them dumb. Vist (visit) som (some) whose the dumb one? I doubt they didn't understand what you wanted to do but more like they were surprised that you were requesting something which in their eyes was dumb. You were most certainly the first person to make such a request and it took them aback a bit because staying more than a few hours would not make sense to them because they don't use cabañas in that way.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1310614]Sidney, it's not that they were dumb at all. Just because they lack a formal education doesn't make them dumb. Vist (visit) som (some) whose the dumb one? I doubt they didn't understand what you wanted to do but more like they were surprised that you were requesting something which in their eyes was dumb. You were most certainly the first person to make such a request and it took them aback a bit because staying more than a few hours would not make sense to them because they don't use cabañas in that way.[/QUOTE]Haha, would love to see the guys face when he requested to stay there for a week or so, he was like WTF, what are you planning over here? Manizales your post got me cracking up over here. Know you tell me who is dumb please. LOL

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1310551]Hey Jao curious have you stayed in a cabana for an extended stay like if you stayed in a hotel room? I've given serious thought into staying at a really nice cabana instead of a hotel when I finally come to SDQ. I mean seriously those cabanas are VERLY nicely built. Hell when I used one in the SU I was amazed how clean it was. The bed was nicer then the bed I have at home. Hell they had a nice flat screen and whatever you want to eat or drink at any hour was a buzz away.

So I was wondering if I ever decided to stay at a cabana for a few days would it cost me alot or would it be on par with staying at a nice small villa or hotel room[/QUOTE]Coolie, I know the question was addressed to Jao but if you don't mind I will inject some thoughts.

You can certainly rent a cabaña for more thank few hours, it may seem a little foreign to some cabaña owners so have some patience with them. When I traveled from SD to Azua and the Haitian border there were no hotels really to speak of except some REALLY run down pieces of shit so I decided to stay in cabañas. I negotiated one in the campo outside of Azua for a stay of eight days and another in a small town just east Haiti for three days. The owner of the one outside of Azua lived in New Jersey for twenty years and understood what and why I was requesting to stay there for an extended time and gave me a sweet deal of 1000 pesos a day. The owner of the other cabaña initially tried to tell me it was 200 pesos for every three hours I was there no matter how long I was there, my spanish wasn't quite good enough to really get into it with the guy so I had my lady friend take over the negotiations and we struck a deal, I don't remember the price. Keep in mind that these were places in the middle of east bum fuck and were pretty much empty so the prices will be higher in a city like SD or Sosua. The cabañas in PP LaRoca (sp?) are crazy nice and they will rent by the full day, I plan to stay there for a couple days the next time I'm on the north coast.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1310362]Can't put the name and number here but PM me if you need it.[/QUOTE]Hi Mr Gogo, I'd like the name of that cabana sine I wil be in PP in a couple weeks. However, when I go to send you a PM, the PM option does not appear as it does with others. Any idea what's going on? If you could PM me the info, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks, Poly

[QUOTE=Sidney;1310552]I stayed overnight in one near STI. I had to vist 6 before 1 could understand the concept. I even had it written in Espanol! These are som very dumb people.[/QUOTE]Most times I am in and out of a cabaña in less than 4 hours. One time I entered with a woman around 4am, she knew we would sleep and not be out by 8am, so she told the worker. 8 hours (the second 4 hours was cheaper than the rate for the initial 4 hours). There was no problem, no difficulty asking for more time (it is more money for the cabaña) , the woman asked for extra sheets (because the air conditioning was cold). If you overstay, the cabaña will probably call you at 4 hours and you can just say 4 more hours and go to the small door in the wall and pay for the extra 4 hours.

[QUOTE=Flsailor;1309143]I can confirm what Leroy said about buying Sildenafil (box of 96 pills) for $975 Dominican pesos at the Mini Market Latino. If you want to find the market, from the corner of Rosen and Alejo Martinez start walking away from the Sosua Beach, pass the baseball field that is behind the New Garden hotel. Keep going and you will cross Dave Stern street, the next street you will cross is Ayuntamiento. The mini market is just half a block after Ayuntamiento street on the right hand side. There is a big green President beer sign on front of it. You can't miss it.[/QUOTE]I was there yesterday. Bought one box (96) of generic 100 mg viagra and one package (12) of a "natural" herbal formulation called Power. All for 1650. 00 Dom. Pesos. $41. 50 USD. They also have generic cialis. What a civilized country.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1310623]Coolie, I know the question was addressed to Jao but if you don't mind I will inject some thoughts.

You can certainly rent a cabaña for more thank few hours, it may seem a little foreign to some cabaña owners so have some patience with them. When I traveled from SD to Azua and the Haitian border there were no hotels really to speak of except some REALLY run down pieces of shit so I decided to stay in cabañas. I negotiated one in the campo outside of Azua for a stay of eight days and another in a small town just east Haiti for three days. The owner of the one outside of Azua lived in New Jersey for twenty years and understood what and why I was requesting to stay there for an extended time and gave me a sweet deal of 1000 pesos a day. The owner of the other cabaña initially tried to tell me it was 200 pesos for every three hours I was there no matter how long I was there, my spanish wasn't quite good enough to really get into it with the guy so I had my lady friend take over the negotiations and we struck a deal, I don't remember the price. Keep in mind that these were places in the middle of east bum fuck and were pretty much empty so the prices will be higher in a city like SD or Sosua. The cabañas in PP LaRoca (sp?) are crazy nice and they will rent by the full day, I plan to stay there for a couple days the next time I'm on the north coast.[/QUOTE]Mani, much thanks for the knowledge. Ima check out those cabanas in PP when I get a chance. I believe Mr. Gogo was talking about the same cabanas in PP in his last post as well. I tell you what though if I can get a good daily rate as you did, staying in hotels and villas will be the thing of the past for me

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1310623]Coolie, I know the question was addressed to Jao but if you don't mind I will inject some thoughts.

You can certainly rent a cabaña for more thank few hours, it may seem a little foreign to some cabaña owners so have some patience with them. When I traveled from SD to Azua and the Haitian border there were no hotels really to speak of except some REALLY run down pieces of shit so I decided to stay in cabañas. I negotiated one in the campo outside of Azua for a stay of eight days and another in a small town just east Haiti for three days. The owner of the one outside of Azua lived in New Jersey for twenty years and understood what and why I was requesting to stay there for an extended time and gave me a sweet deal of 1000 pesos a day. The owner of the other cabaña initially tried to tell me it was 200 pesos for every three hours I was there no matter how long I was there, my spanish wasn't quite good enough to really get into it with the guy so I had my lady friend take over the negotiations and we struck a deal, I don't remember the price. Keep in mind that these were places in the middle of east bum fuck and were pretty much empty so the prices will be higher in a city like SD or Sosua. The cabañas in PP LaRoca (sp?) are crazy nice and they will rent by the full day, I plan to stay there for a couple days the next time I'm on the north coast.[/QUOTE]Good post.

The cabanas I stayed at never gave a room key. You close the garage door from the inside and the door between the parking space and the room, you can lock from the inside.

Some more pics of various cabanas. The garage door half open with traffic cones or plastic yellow caution things, means that room is being cleaned. Some cabanas are owned by Chinese Dominicans. In Santiago and Santos Domingo, there are a few places that have 5 or more cabanas next to each, [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW7nHD_GebY[/url] Lit up at night like a mini las vegas. The more expensive rooms are usually closer to the entrance.

Years ago there was a cabana just east of the main strip in Cabarete. Heading from Sosua towards Puerto Plata, there was a cabana on the left hand side of the road, up a small hill, after the airport.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1310398]rooms at Bora Bora Cabaña in Santiago. the Caribbean theme room (two floors with a jacuzzi, about 1300 pesos) , the other room was Ejecutivo with a jacuzzi and skylight, for around 800-900 pesos.[/QUOTE]Could you clarify TIME duration at these price rates. Also: time of day / night (if rates differ weekends, festas).

Thanks

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1310623]Coolie, I know the question was addressed to Jao but if you don't mind I will inject some thoughts.

You can certainly rent a cabaña for more thank few hours, it may seem a little foreign to some cabaña owners so have some patience with them. When I traveled from SD to Azua and the Haitian border there were no hotels really to speak of except some REALLY run down pieces of shit so I decided to stay in cabañas. I negotiated one in the campo outside of Azua for a stay of eight days and another in a small town just east Haiti for three days. The owner of the one outside of Azua lived in New Jersey for twenty years and understood what and why I was requesting to stay there for an extended time and gave me a sweet deal of 1000 pesos a day. The owner of the other cabaña initially tried to tell me it was 200 pesos for every three hours I was there no matter how long I was there, my spanish wasn't quite good enough to really get into it with the guy so I had my lady friend take over the negotiations and we struck a deal, I don't remember the price. Keep in mind that these were places in the middle of east bum fuck and were pretty much empty so the prices will be higher in a city like SD or Sosua. The cabañas in PP LaRoca (sp?) are crazy nice and they will rent by the full day, I plan to stay there for a couple days the next time I'm on the north coast.[/QUOTE]I stayed and a cabana in pp it was very nice from 3am- 9am I only pay $20 I have a video of it we guys can check it out [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn9oTggKUkU[/url]

A little help if possible:

I've stayed at the New Garden Hotel for the ISG rate. And was wondering if any one knew if the Terra Linda Hotel offered any discounts like that? When I contacted the Terra Linda, they quoted me a price of $99us per night. Does any one have any information on this?

Thanks All

[QUOTE=Meerrak; 1310765]A little help if possible:

I've stayed at the New Garden Hotel for the ISG rate. And was wondering if any one knew if the Terra Linda Hotel offered any discounts like that? When I contacted the Terra Linda, they quoted me a price of $99us per night. Does any one have any information on this?

Thanks All[/QUOTE]E-mail the place and ask for Willy, I was quoted this last November.

Check In Date: November 18th.

Check Out Date: November 23rd.

Rate: 75USD per night King bed room.

(All taxes & breakfast included)

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1310614]Sidney, it's not that they were dumb at all. Just because they lack a formal education doesn't make them dumb. Vist (visit) som (some) whose the dumb one? I doubt they didn't understand what you wanted to do but more like they were surprised that you were requesting something which in their eyes was dumb. You were most certainly the first person to make such a request and it took them aback a bit because staying more than a few hours would not make sense to them because they don't use cabañas in that way.[/QUOTE]Thank you. While trying to help men to find Cabanas, you let us know how smart you are by highlighting 2 typos of mine, by spelling 'visit and some' correctly. Although you may consider yourself as the 'smartest man on the block'! NOT! And your assumptive, apologetic, pitiful defense of these inflexible, not adaptable, Dominican employes borders on the ridiculous!

[QUOTE=Polyorchid; 1310628]Hi Mr Gogo, I'd like the name of that cabana sine I wil be in PP in a couple weeks. However, when I go to send you a PM, the PM option does not appear as it does with others. Any idea what's going on? If you could PM me the info, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks, Poly[/QUOTE]He is probably talking about Suncacion.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1310875]Thank you. While trying to help men to find Cabanas, you let us know how smart you are by highlighting 2 typos of mine, by spelling 'visit and some' correctly. Although you may consider yourself as the 'smartest man on the block'! NOT! And your assumptive, apologetic, pitiful defense of these inflexible, not adaptable, Dominican employes borders on the ridiculous![/QUOTE]WTF is up with all your flaming lately? While we are on topic why did you not post your CMP story? You go on and on about shoot out in Cabarete and start a new thread if coke goes up 50 cents at Merengues and you clam up when something important happens. You becoming an offical Expat with no spine?

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1310904]He is probably talking about Suncacion.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it is Sensation.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1310724]Could you clarify TIME duration at these price rates. Also: time of day / night (if rates differ weekends, festas). Thanks[/QUOTE]Hola,

For the Bora Bora Cabaña (STI, Santiago) , Caribbean theme room, I paid around 1300 pesos (about $33US) , at around 9pm on a weeknight (maybe a Wednesday) for a 4 hour rental. The woman I was with wanted a room with a stripper pole and a jacuzzi. The Caribbean theme room had a big jacuzzi, but no stripper pole. The other room at Bora Bora Cabaña (Executive, Ejecutivo) the price was around 800 pesos, during the day, around 3pm, maybe a Tuesday, for a 4 hour rental.

Some photos of various Cabañas, with prices posted outside and inside (SDQ for santo domingo). Cabañas Aka (here) and Alli (there) , are next door to each other (presidencial room at Cabaña Alli. 1800 pesos for 4 hours). Other Cabañas have express rates (2 hour rental) and the rates are usually cheaper Monday to Thursday. Years ago, I used to see signs for Ethics Cabaña in Santiago, with a rate of 99 pesos. You can enter a cabaña room to check the price, some places have the price stenciled on the wall in the parking space.

Friday and Saturday nights, the rates are probably slightly more, but not outrageously so. During major holidays, I don't know if they raise their rates excessively.

QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1310800]E-mail the place and ask for Willy, I was quoted this last November.

Check In Date: November 18th.

Check Out Date: November 23rd.

Rate: 75USD per night King bed room.

(All taxes & breakfast included) [/QUOTE]I'll hit him up today. And thanks a lot. (USD souded a bit steep)

[QUOTE=Jarmondy; 1310751]I stayed and a cabana in pp it was very nice from 3am- 9am I only pay $20 I have a video of it we guys can check it out.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn9oTggKUkU[/url][/QUOTE]Beautiful Villa (video) in your youtube collection and attractive women, thanks for posting.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1310907]WTF is up with all your flaming lately? While we are on topic why did you not post your CMP story? You go on and on about shoot out in Cabarete and start a new thread if coke goes up 50 cents at Merengues and you clam up when something important happens. You becoming an offical Expat with no spine?[/QUOTE]Flaming? I left CMP before the action began. I tried and failed to get Rick out of prison. I talked to the Fiscal on his behalf, as a character witness.The shootings were several years ago, and denied by others at Orilla del Mar, who were afraid their condos would drop in value. Few have been more exposing about the Poli-Pussy persecution and anti-tourist activities of the AMRATS. Your readings seems quite selective?-----------BTW, i post much more on the other board(1,163 posts). And 3,600+ on ISG/AP. Read on, my friend !

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1310911]Yeah, it is Sensation.[/QUOTE]I couldn't spell it to save my ass but it is Cabañas Sensación

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1310990]I couldn't spell it to save my ass but it is Cabañas Sensación[/QUOTE]I just dug up the card In one of my travel bags, and you have the correct spelling. The apartments that open to the pool are in the front, and the cabanas are on the back. I always have walked up and got one of the apartments, but that might not be the case once people read this. OH well, atleast I've got FOD and BB to visit also. On weekends Sensacion has some freaky shit going on at the pool.

[QUOTE=Coolie High;1310551]when I finally come to SDQ[/QUOTE]I'll respond in the Santo Domingo thread, thanks.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1310249]I was there. You are an idiot.[/QUOTE]
You were there for the part of the incident. So Please STFU. I said nothing in reference to or about you and your comments were unnecessary.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1310227]You've been in Sosua for a month? I thought a previous post said you were up in the mountains?[/QUOTE]
I was in DR for a month Sosua for exactly 72 hours. In that short time I had a great day, a good day and a day that reminded me exactly why I hate the place. I believe little of whats posted on here especially about incidents. 99% of the time 74% of the beginning and Middle are left out. Some on here on compulsive liars and im getting sick of it.

[quote=alex deuce;1311117]i believe little of whats posted on here especially about incidents. 99% of the time 74% of the beginning and middle are left out. some on here on compulsive liars and im getting sick of it.[/quote]how difficult is it to comprehend rick helped out the guy that was framed staying at terra linda then himself got a beat down and framed later by cmp, not sure why myself only putting pieces together from rep001tered info. in the dr the messenger is usually shot, out of revenge, just look at some of the journalists who tried to tell the truth about corruption. noone will fill in the story because they don't want to be next to go to jail or get a beat down.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1311003]I always have walked up and got one of the apartments, but that might not be the case once people read this.[/QUOTE]I don't know with La Roca and the Cheap Caribbean 30 dollar a night AI hotel deals nearby.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1310953]Beautiful Villa (video) in your youtube collection and attractive women, thanks for posting.[/QUOTE]Thanks that was My first trip in Sosua I had a hell of a good time.

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce; 1311117]You were there for the part of the incident. So Please STFU. I said nothing in reference to or about you and your comments were unnecessary.

I was in DR for a month Sosua for exactly 72 hours. In that short time I had a great day, a good day and a day that reminded me exactly why I hate the place. I believe little of whats posted on here especially about incidents. 99% of the time 74% of the beginning and Middle are left out. Some on here on compulsive liars and I'm getting sick of it.[/QUOTE]You have it figured out! Please return to CMP often!

[QUOTE=Sidney;1311378]You have it figured out! Please return to CMP often![/QUOTE]Actually, I was there the week before your supposed incident and had a great time with the staff, selected mongers and multiple chicas. Anothers mongers incidents mean shit to me as long as I'm treated well. Iv learned the hard way everything you hear aint the truth about places. Some of the best times iv had have been at places some on here have said were either dead or overpriced.

[quote=hillbilly69;1311235]how difficult is it to comprehend rick helped out the guy that was framed staying at terra linda then himself got a beat down and framed later by cmp, not sure why myself only putting pieces together from rep001tered info. in the dr the messenger is usually shot, out of revenge, just look at some of the journalists who tried to tell the truth about corruption. noone will fill in the story because they don't want to be next to go to jail or get a beat down.[/quote]actually, its real simple. keep your nose out of other peoples business and you won't get it bashed in.

i have said this before, i will have no issue of the likely probablity of having to step over one your dead bodies if some of you dont stop acting like your western sensibilities should be the norm. it aint your fugging country!

Going to the DR again in a couple weeks, going to spend a few days at BB and a few days in Sosua at Rockys, need to get some vitamin V. Where can I get it in Sosua and what are the prices.

From what I understand I can get it at BB itself and at Jenneys, I have also heard there is a pharmacy across from Jennys. On my first trip I brought my own so didn't look for or worry about any pharmacies. I've heard the V that BB sales are questionable in quality. Does anyone have any further information on this or know what the prices are at the above mentioned places.

Thanks.

Chris

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce;1311454]Some of the best times iv had have been at places some on here have said were either dead or overpriced.[/QUOTE]That's not only true for Sosua, but also for other parts of the DR and other countries as well. Sometimes its best to let those people continue to think those places are dead or overpriced.

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1311488]Going to the DR again in a couple weeks, going to spend a few days at BB and a few days in Sosua at Rockys, need to get some vitamin V. Where can I get it in Sosua and what are the prices.

From what I understand I can get it at BB itself and at Jenneys, I have also heard there is a pharmacy across from Jennys. On my first trip I brought my own so didn't look for or worry about any pharmacies. I've heard the V that BB sales are questionable in quality. Does anyone have any further information on this or know what the prices are at the above mentioned places.

Thanks.

Chris[/QUOTE]If you are going to BB's first then go to the farmacia across from Jenny's, good product at decent prices.

Boots on the ground.

Day 2 was fantastic. I'm writing a quick report to share this shocking experience that is still giving me the shakes as I type. Matter of fact, as I think about it. I'm getting her tonight!

Ok, let me snap out of it. I'm down in the dirty DR ten deep. We have two incredible villas in Residential Hispaniola. I'm loving it. Laying in a lounger. Poolside. Under the shade. The palms trees sway as I look out over the ocean. I have the beauty and serenity of my current state meshing with the lingering memory of yesterdays jaunt and I am truly thankful. Life is good.

Flew into Santiago. Paid twenty bucks for taxi to Metrobus. Luckily, caught the bus right as it was pulling out! Cool! Bus ride pretty uneventful except for two fine honeys on the bus, but I didn't even blink. I'm in chill mode. As soon as I get off the bus, I see another fine chica cross the street. She shot me a smile. I smiled back but kept it moving.

Now, I said I wasn't going to write anything in depth or lengthy because it does take a decent effort and I told my self I would relax and stay off the forum, but I couldn't keep this one story to myself.

Sosua in general seems to give off a more hardened vibe. I've only been out two nights, but this small sample concerns me that the elusive GFE is even more elusive. The quality and quantity is down. I left Classicos last night ALONE. And it was Thursday!

There is a lot more to that so I'll just f*cking get with it already before Deep Impact or Old Kool choke me out for all the build up!

A group of my buddies landed on Thursday. Seven of us went out on Wednesday to Rhumba around 9pm and all seven of us left from there with nice pickings. It all happened so fast! LOL It started with my one buddy dancing bachatta with two chicas and then walking off with them. We weren't sure if he was going somewhere else to dance or back to the villa. I had planned to take them to Merengue and then up to Classicos, but we never made it because while waiting for our buddy the sharks swarmed and it was a quick massacre. Chicas swooped us up so fast the next thing I know we are back at the Villa. The drinks are flowing. My disappearing buddy was in the jacuzzi buttnaked with his two chicas. It is on. My chica is young, fine, with an amazing ass and damn near no fat on her body. Tln for 2500 pesos. Good experience, but not great. I would not repeat because I notice she is high mileage and I don't like hungry chicas like that no matter how they look. I need a little sumn more. She definitely has the allure, but if I had my wits and applied my standard approach I wouldn't have chose her the first time. Oh well. I guess I had to get the edge off. I was not satisfied at all. We had a decent morning rump, but it left me longing for whatever reason like I hadn't f*cked anybody. Weird.

I rationalized with myself that I would do a daytime ST so I can be chill enough Thursday night to apply my standard approach. I figured I could find a nice enough chica to do the deed.

Once the rest of my crew arrived, I did a full tour of Sosua. It took about five minutes! LOL.

Our last stop was Passions. We went around 5 pm. I haven't been there in years and it had no appeal to me, but I wanted to let my buddies check it out. I told them that we were just browsing no need to do anything with the chicas. We would have a beer and leave. I expected I would see some nice chicas but I doubted I would session any of them. Boy was I wrong. The setup is cool. The fish tank is cheesy. There were at least five chicas that I would say were really attractive with nice bodies and everything. My opinion of this place has definitely changed.

As soon as we enter and sit around the bars, we get swarmed. I sit back against my chair to avoid contact and sip my beer. This one tall sexy chica glides over and our eyes lock. Oh shit! I had a "vitamin" earlier that day. My dick instantly got hard. I leaned into the bar and she was all over me. I really didn't plan on doing anything with her. I told myself to just enjoy the interaction. I was so against Passions. I can't explain the boycott? Whatever.

After about twenty minutes of steady focused attention from her, I start to break down. Next thing you know I'm just curious about the menu. I notice a tln is 5k at 6 pm and 3. 5kat10 pm. The time was around 5:30 pm. I was really tempted to snatch her right then and there, but with her limited English and my limited Spanish I feared I would get bored or frustrated at some point because of the lack of conversation. I'm a talker.

We agreed that I would session her on the premises, but come back to get her after 10 pm. What pushed me over the edge was that she smelled so good and then told me she hadn't sexed anybody. The idea of her being "fresh" was too much to handle. This was one of my top 3 paid experiences. EVER!

Sorry, but the sexual interlude will not be shared in detail. Everything was on the menu except anal. I didn't even ask. She either really liked me or she is one of the best actress in the whole freaking world. Her energy, passion, sensuality, performance, pussy, BBBJ were all excellent. Within the hour we had two episodes and I got a back massage. Is this just the standard of this place or did I get lucky?

I finished writing the rest of this story Saturday morning. I never made it back to Passions for the chica. I went to Classicos instead. My experience last night was great. My standard approach was in full effect and worked brilliantly. I will share this experience as well as anything else significant once I return to the USA.

Back to fun! .

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1311627]Boots on the ground.

Day 2 was fantastic. I'm writing a quick report to share this shocking experience that is still giving me the shakes as I type. Matter of fact, as I think about it. I'm getting her tonight!

Ok, let me snap out of it. I'm down in the dirty DR ten deep. We have two incredible villas in Residential Hispaniola. I'm loving it. Laying in a lounger. Poolside. Under the shade. The palms trees sway as I look out over the ocean. I have the beauty and serenity of my current state meshing with the lingering memory of yesterdays jaunt and I am truly thankful. Life is good.

Flew into Santiago. Paid twenty bucks for taxi to Metrobus. Luckily, caught the bus right as it was pulling out! Cool! Bus ride pretty uneventful except for two fine honeys on the bus, but I didn't even blink. I'm in chill mode. As soon as I get off the bus, I see another fine chica cross the street. She shot me a smile. I smiled back but kept it moving.

Now, I said I wasn't going to write anything in depth or lengthy because it does take a decent effort and I told my self I would relax and stay off the forum, but I couldn't keep this one story to myself.

Sosua in general seems to give off a more hardened vibe. I've only been out two nights, but this small sample concerns me that the elusive GFE is even more elusive. The quality and quantity is down. I left Classicos last night ALONE. And it was Thursday!

There is a lot more to that so I'll just f*cking get with it already before Deep Impact or Old Kool choke me out for all the build up!

A group of my buddies landed on Thursday. Seven of us went out on Wednesday to Rhumba around 9pm and all seven of us left from there with nice pickings. It all happened so fast! LOL It started with my one buddy dancing bachatta with two chicas and then walking off with them. We weren't sure if he was going somewhere else to dance or back to the villa. I had planned to take them to Merengue and then up to Classicos, but we never made it because while waiting for our buddy the sharks swarmed and it was a quick massacre. Chicas swooped us up so fast the next thing I know we are back at the Villa. The drinks are flowing. My disappearing buddy was in the jacuzzi buttnaked with his two chicas. It is on. My chica is young, fine, with an amazing ass and damn near no fat on her body. Tln for 2500 pesos. Good experience, but not great. I would not repeat because I notice she is high mileage and I don't like hungry chicas like that no matter how they look. I need a little sumn more. She definitely has the allure, but if I had my wits and applied my standard approach I wouldn't have chose her the first time. Oh well. I guess I had to get the edge off. I was not satisfied at all. We had a decent morning rump, but it left me longing for whatever reason like I hadn't f*cked anybody. Weird.

I rationalized with myself that I would do a daytime ST so I can be chill enough Thursday night to apply my standard approach. I figured I could find a nice enough chica to do the deed.

Once the rest of my crew arrived, I did a full tour of Sosua. It took about five minutes! LOL.

Our last stop was Passions. We went around 5 pm. I haven't been there in years and it had no appeal to me, but I wanted to let my buddies check it out. I told them that we were just browsing no need to do anything with the chicas. We would have a beer and leave. I expected I would see some nice chicas but I doubted I would session any of them. Boy was I wrong. The setup is cool. The fish tank is cheesy. There were at least five chicas that I would say were really attractive with nice bodies and everything. My opinion of this place has definitely changed.

As soon as we enter and sit around the bars, we get swarmed. I sit back against my chair to avoid contact and sip my beer. This one tall sexy chica glides over and our eyes lock. Oh shit! I had a "vitamin" earlier that day. My dick instantly got hard. I leaned into the bar and she was all over me. I really didn't plan on doing anything with her. I told myself to just enjoy the interaction. I was so against Passions. I can't explain the boycott? Whatever.

After about twenty minutes of steady focused attention from her, I start to break down. Next thing you know I'm just curious about the menu. I notice a tln is 5k at 6 pm and 3. 5kat10 pm. The time was around 5:30 pm. I was really tempted to snatch her right then and there, but with her limited English and my limited Spanish I feared I would get bored or frustrated at some point because of the lack of conversation. I'm a talker.

We agreed that I would session her on the premises, but come back to get her after 10 pm. What pushed me over the edge was that she smelled so good and then told me she hadn't sexed anybody. The idea of her being "fresh" was too much to handle. This was one of my top 3 paid experiences. EVER!

Sorry, but the sexual interlude will not be shared in detail. Everything was on the menu except anal. I didn't even ask. She either really liked me or she is one of the best actress in the whole freaking world. Her energy, passion, sensuality, performance, pussy, BBBJ were all excellent. Within the hour we had two episodes and I got a back massage. Is this just the standard of this place or did I get lucky?

I finished writing the rest of this story Saturday morning. I never made it back to Passions for the chica. I went to Classicos instead. My experience last night was great. My standard approach was in full effect and worked brilliantly. I will share this experience as well as anything else significant once I return to the USA.

Back to fun! .[/QUOTE]Damn, my brother loved the report, I promise no static from me ever again. I do have a question? I'm flying into Santiago In October, My flight lands at 8:00pm, I have to get a taxi from the airport to the bus station. What time is the last metro bus heading for Sosua? Any Idea? Was it a pain getting from the airport to the bus station? I have never sessioned with a Passion chick, only "soapy soapy" once. Man after reading your excellent report. I just may go there and unleash the Chocolate Jackhammer". LOL!

She damn well better have sexy feet " (I'm a wierdo Damn foot fetish"). LOL. Hopefully you get some pictures, of all the wreckage you left after you guys "off the hook"trip. LOL. Brother take care, Have fun and leave some chicas for the rest of us. Also let us know if you finally find that illusive GFE, and what hoops or tricks it took to find a good one. Peace my brother.

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1311488]Going to the DR again in a couple weeks, going to spend a few days at BB and a few days in Sosua at Rockys, need to get some vitamin V. Where can I get it in Sosua and what are the prices.

From what I understand I can get it at BB itself and at Jenneys, I have also heard there is a pharmacy across from Jennys. On my first trip I brought my own so didn't look for or worry about any pharmacies. I've heard the V that BB sales are questionable in quality. Does anyone have any further information on this or know what the prices are at the above mentioned places.

Thanks.

Chris[/QUOTE]In Sosua go to the Mini Market Latino on Alejo Martinez street, you can get there a box of 96 pills of V for a little less than $1000 Dominican pesos (that is about US$25). You will also find guys and the beach selling you 4 pills for $200 Dominican pesos. So, if you make your math you can see that Mini Market Latino is the way to go!

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2;1311627]I've only been out two nights, but this small sample concerns me that the elusive GFE is even more elusive. The quality and quantity is down. I left Classicos last night ALONE. And it was Thursday![/QUOTE]I've noted that too, but my first trip to the DR ever was last March. Can it simply the summer lull?

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2;1311627]She definitely has the allure, but if I had my wits and applied my standard approach I wouldn't have chose her the first time. Oh well. I guess I had to get the edge off. I was not satisfied at all. We had a decent morning rump, but it left me longing for whatever reason like I hadn't f*cked anybody. Weird.[/QUOTE]I guess you like the hunt too much, eh? I can relate, I do have some bias against run-of-the-mill putas for some reason. It does make life overly complicated at time, though. Never been to Passions ever in 4 trips / 20 days in Sosua, probably for the same reason.

Thanks for sharing. Reminds me I need to finish my own report.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1311627]Boots on the ground.

Day 2 was fantastic. I'm writing a quick report to share this shocking experience that is still giving me the shakes as I type. Matter of fact, as I think about it. I'm getting her tonight!

Ok, let me snap out of it. I'm down in the dirty DR ten deep. We have two incredible villas in Residential Hispaniola. I'm loving it. Laying in a lounger. Poolside. Under the shade. The palms trees sway as I look out over the ocean. I have the beauty and serenity of my current state meshing with the lingering memory of yesterdays jaunt and I am truly thankful. Life is good.

Flew into Santiago. Paid twenty bucks for taxi to Metrobus. Luckily, caught the bus right as it was pulling out! Cool! Bus ride pretty uneventful except for two fine honeys on the bus, but I didn't even blink. I'm in chill mode. As soon as I get off the bus, I see another fine chica cross the street. She shot me a smile. I smiled back but kept it moving.

Now, I said I wasn't going to write anything in depth or lengthy because it does take a decent effort and I told my self I would relax and stay off the forum, but I couldn't keep this one story to myself.

Sosua in general seems to give off a more hardened vibe. I've only been out two nights, but this small sample concerns me that the elusive GFE is even more elusive. The quality and quantity is down. I left Classicos last night ALONE. And it was Thursday!

There is a lot more to that so I'll just f*cking get with it already before Deep Impact or Old Kool choke me out for all the build up!

A group of my buddies landed on Thursday. Seven of us went out on Wednesday to Rhumba around 9pm and all seven of us left from there with nice pickings. It all happened so fast! LOL It started with my one buddy dancing bachatta with two chicas and then walking off with them. We weren't sure if he was going somewhere else to dance or back to the villa. I had planned to take them to Merengue and then up to Classicos, but we never made it because while waiting for our buddy the sharks swarmed and it was a quick massacre. Chicas swooped us up so fast the next thing I know we are back at the Villa. The drinks are flowing. My disappearing buddy was in the jacuzzi buttnaked with his two chicas. It is on. My chica is young, fine, with an amazing ass and damn near no fat on her body. Tln for 2500 pesos. Good experience, but not great. I would not repeat because I notice she is high mileage and I don't like hungry chicas like that no matter how they look. I need a little sumn more. She definitely has the allure, but if I had my wits and applied my standard approach I wouldn't have chose her the first time. Oh well. I guess I had to get the edge off. I was not satisfied at all. We had a decent morning rump, but it left me longing for whatever reason like I hadn't f*cked anybody. Weird.

I rationalized with myself that I would do a daytime ST so I can be chill enough Thursday night to apply my standard approach. I figured I could find a nice enough chica to do the deed.

Once the rest of my crew arrived, I did a full tour of Sosua. It took about five minutes! LOL.

Our last stop was Passions. We went around 5 pm. I haven't been there in years and it had no appeal to me, but I wanted to let my buddies check it out. I told them that we were just browsing no need to do anything with the chicas. We would have a beer and leave. I expected I would see some nice chicas but I doubted I would session any of them. Boy was I wrong. The setup is cool. The fish tank is cheesy. There were at least five chicas that I would say were really attractive with nice bodies and everything. My opinion of this place has definitely changed.

As soon as we enter and sit around the bars, we get swarmed. I sit back against my chair to avoid contact and sip my beer. This one tall sexy chica glides over and our eyes lock. Oh shit! I had a "vitamin" earlier that day. My dick instantly got hard. I leaned into the bar and she was all over me. I really didn't plan on doing anything with her. I told myself to just enjoy the interaction. I was so against Passions. I can't explain the boycott? Whatever.

After about twenty minutes of steady focused attention from her, I start to break down. Next thing you know I'm just curious about the menu. I notice a tln is 5k at 6 pm and 3. 5kat10 pm. The time was around 5:30 pm. I was really tempted to snatch her right then and there, but with her limited English and my limited Spanish I feared I would get bored or frustrated at some point because of the lack of conversation. I'm a talker.

We agreed that I would session her on the premises, but come back to get her after 10 pm. What pushed me over the edge was that she smelled so good and then told me she hadn't sexed anybody. The idea of her being "fresh" was too much to handle. This was one of my top 3 paid experiences. EVER!

Sorry, but the sexual interlude will not be shared in detail. Everything was on the menu except anal. I didn't even ask. She either really liked me or she is one of the best actress in the whole freaking world. Her energy, passion, sensuality, performance, pussy, BBBJ were all excellent. Within the hour we had two episodes and I got a back massage. Is this just the standard of this place or did I get lucky?

I finished writing the rest of this story Saturday morning. I never made it back to Passions for the chica. I went to Classicos instead. My experience last night was great. My standard approach was in full effect and worked brilliantly. I will share this experience as well as anything else significant once I return to the USA.

Back to fun! .[/QUOTE]Great report Ah2, don't you ever WORRY about me coming at you "sideways"ever again, One question What time did you gey to Santiago? I'm flying into Santiago, and wax wondering Was it a pain in the ass"getting from the airport to the bus station? And I arrive at 8pm, Does the metro bus run late. Have fun my brother, and great reporting as usual. Peace!

[QUOTE=Sammy Sosa; 1311670]I've noted that too, but my first trip to the DR ever was last March. Can it simply the summer lull?

I guess you like the hunt too much, eh? I can relate, I do have some bias against run-of-the-mill putas for some reason. It does make life overly complicated at time, though. Never been to Passions ever in 4 trips / 20 days in Sosua, probably for the same reason.

Thanks for sharing. Reminds me I need to finish my own report.[/QUOTE]Sometimes I like the hunt and sometimes I like "point-and-click." It's good to have choices.

I like variety but get little satisfaction from casas. I truth Sosua is a big brothel but you do have the illusion of hunting. It sort of like being in the woods and the rabbits walk up to you to shoot. That being said the sex with Dominican cupid girls usually much better. The girls get a chance to relax with you. You have can get GFE with Sosua girls but it is counter productive. There are so many girls you can not focus on one. THE mnute you think you have the queen of Sosua then another girl makes you go oops. I fucked so many women in Sosua I ran out of leche. However the sex was not memorable. Eating the pussy of my San francisco girl unforgettable/

[QUOTE=Combo;1311734]Sometimes I like the hunt and sometimes I like "point-and-click." It's good to have choices.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1311632]I'm flying into Santiago In October, My flight lands at 8:00pm, I have to get a taxi from the airport to the bus station. What time is the last metro bus heading for Sosua? Any Idea?[/QUOTE]According to the Caribe Tours webpage, [url]http://caribetours.com.do/index.php/viajes/get_travel[/url] The last Caribe Tours bus is at 9:45pm cost is 160 pesos (click "precios" then choose the departure and arrival points and the time you want to travel). Also a Caribe Tours bus at 8:45pm. For Metro Bus, [url]http://www.metroserviciosturisticos.com/rutas_horarios.html[/url] The last metro bus from santiago to sosua is 6:15pm, last metro bus to Puerto Plata is 9:15pm from Santiago.

fourth trip to sosua last week. getting wild.

wednesday 18th. living among the putas.

drove straight from santiago airport at 4am. best hour to cross santiago. banged at sara's door shortly after sunrise. she opened the door entirely naked. typical sara. her moist flat stomach, endless legs, firm breasts and expressive face aroused me right away. i felt like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] her right away on the sofa. she would not have mind. but i did not want her to stick around. plus she had no sofa.

sara is the wild girl i met last trip who lost her kid 2 years ago and parties heavily ever since to forget. i changed her name to "sally" in my previous reports, as i though she was a junkie. we agreed on facebook that i would rent her apartment in plaza sosua. i noticed many girls live there and relished the idea of being in the middle of it all.

not a good idea. the place was noisy, her a / c was not working well. sara was clearly intent on sticking around in spite of our agreement. started telling me not to bring chicas in her apartment. duh. i was off to hotel europa before sunset. sara was furious.

hit the strip after a short nap. girls seemed more aggressive. business is slow, and they smelt fresh meat. got stalked by a fat chica with huge boobs, and took refuge at the new garden. sit down with 2 good looking girls at the bar. dari and her older sister were visiting from santo domingo hoping to make a few bucks for the children back home. dari had a few extra pounds but still a teen body, a friendly round face, inquisitive eyes and a broad smile. and clearly not very experienced. i knew i would regret taking her to bed. got bored fucking her after 10 minutes. felt like being in bed with an inflatable doll. but at least dolls do not complain when you put them in a different position. decided to keep my "leche" for a more worthwhile receptacle.

hit classico, this time really in need of a good lay. found quickly what i was looking for. a tall, slim, sexy "negrita" was dancing alone at the center of the floor. estefani turned out to be a real nice girl. she was more experienced, and drove a harder bargain. at the close of classico, we went to my hotel to smoke then a great, badly needed session. felt like more dancing and we returned to afterone without her asking for payment."you won't go with another chica?" she asked shyly as we reached the disco. clearly a keeper. when afterone finally kicked us out, and after a quick refuel at caipirinha, back to bed for another great session. estefani is a great kisser, like to licks everything she can get her tongue on, and know how to move her body in a smooth wavelike motion like a cat in heat. negotiated 2000 and gave her a well deserved 3000. i became instantly her favorite customer.

thursday. the bombshell's sister.

woke up late and called sara (sally) hoping to make up. as we reached my car, estefani chose that moment to show up at my hotel. i avoided sara's dark gaze as i switftly gave motoconcho money to estefani to make her disappear. damage was done. sara went on sulking the whole lunch, in spite of jorge's wonderful fried fish.

did bar hoping along pedro clissante in the evening. set my choice on a cute slender teen at rumba. syndie had sexy lips and natural long black hair. a newbie though. i always fall for newbies. took her to bailey's to eat some chewing shrimps drawn in a ketchupy sauce with a french name. i felt bad for the shrimps. and for my wallet. maybe better stick to fried stuff in the d. r.

at classico, syndie was not into dancing. she turned down a bachatta. never thought that possible from a dominicana. went to dance with another girl and that brought syndie back to life. i start understanding dominicana's psychology. still not a good dancer, but at least she stayed around grinding her butt on my crotch. geez i was missing that. wendy the bombshell came to join us. wendy is a gorgeous girl from a previous trip that showed up at my hotel one morning with all her belongings. turned out syndie is wendy's sister. went on dancing squeezed between 2 beauties all evening. long live classico. and yes, the though of doing a threesome with 2 sisters did cross my mind, you pervert.

in bed, syndie was clearly inexperienced. she knew how to go through the motion (thank you, wendy) , doing shower play, then bed teasing, blowjob, and on to multiple positions. but the skills were not there."i can feel your teeth", i whined. good tight pussy and eager to learn though. it was fun to teach a 18 years old where are the sensitive parts of the male organ. will be interesting to see how she evolves over the months.

friday. leave me alone, or i jump on the first motoconcho.

had a few cupid-dates lined up, so checked in at the field of dream in puerto plata.

drove my latest sweetheart safely back home around 11pm, and decided against all logic to drive back to classico. as i hit the floor squeezed between a couple of tall sexy beauties, it just hit me. i am addicted to classico. and to cute useless little things as well. started dancing with a pretty "chikita" teen. the kind i would regret to take to bed. even in classico she was not comfortable. her older sister, jennifer, quickly joined us. not as pretty, but slim and clearly in party mood. and much more assertive than her sister. starting grinding her butt on me with gay abandon, touching my dick each time her sister was not looking. who is the hunter here.

as i started dancing more with her, jennifer felt more in charge and finally took over from her sister. once at afterone, she became quite possessive though, getting upset when i was dancing with other girls, even following me as i went to the restroom. that was too much. walked straight out of afterone, jumped on the first motoconcho, and drove straight away. my first time on a motoconcho actually. 2 min later i was in my car and back to puerto plata.

saturday. high school class trip.

arrived late from puerto plata on saturday night. from maimon to be exact. nice seafood restaurants there. fresh and simply cooked. checked in at perla de sosua, as they had a promotion on hotel. com. once there, the manager lectured me about being cautious with chicas from the street. to a guy showing up alone in one of the cheapest place in sosua. what world is he living in?

pop is open again. used to be my favorite "chica interview spot". one of the most quiet place, overlooking the strip. quiet no more, though. because of the loudspeakers, not the number of clients. felt like a local disco in puerto plata. more "open air" than before. sat next to the new owner. also owns the place across the street. asked him how he intends to bring more business. i was expecting some grand plan for attracting chicas."i'll open a disco in the back" he answered proudly. clearly a differentiated strategy. time to move on.

young looking girl having a soup on her own next to the german bar. i asked for her name."seventeen!" she answered in a heavily accented english. she looked less than 17. her i'd said she was 18. seventeen (pamela of her real name) turned out to have a fun, extrovert personality. decided to join along."as long as you don't pass first base, sammy sosa", to borrow frannie's word. offered seventeen a beer and soon i was surrounded by her barely-older friends. felt like in high school again. except for the erotic twist. took my class to el flow for some karaoke singing. loved singing these bachata as much as dancing them. then off to the casino. girls only wanted to play slot machines, so got bored quickly. discreetly slipped out to classico for some grown-up fun.

estefani was available at classico, and i felt like dancing and good sex. after afterone and the customary "motoconcho tabacco visit", started probably the best sex i had in sosua. estefani became wild in bed, sticking her tongue everywhere she could and for as long as i let her. her body was ondulating as if it had a mind of its own. she was shaking each time i licked her tits. managed to make love to her with my tongue on her nipples the whole time. very uncomfortable. very hot. she came several time and still wanted more. i had to beg her to stop.

sunday. politur calling.

manager from perla de sosua woke me up at 10am to make sure i would leave the hotel by noon. moron. hotel looked empty. back to new garden. tired of hotel hopping. and badly needed a nap.

had a date with one of the waitress from the dutch-owned bar across from bailey's. a young, slim, dark-skin cutie like i seem to favor. went to meet her at the beach. carla never showed up. really enjoyed the sunset facing the bay on my own though, a couple of fruit punch, oysters from street vendors, a live band playing nearby and watch locals dance. dominicans really have dancing in their blood.

hit rumba after sunset. saw sara at the bar. alone, surprisingly. super hot, not surprisingly. paid the usual beer tax. still behaving like a jealous wife. moved on quickly.

sat down with wendy-the-bombshell and her friends. told me she wanted to have an operation to enlarge her butt."eh! but you're one of the hottest thing on the strip!". got brainwashed by her (too?) voluptuous friend next seat. i did mention gringos tend to prefer them slim. a bit on the slow side, our friend wendy. asked about her sister. this made her upset somehow. what's wrong with these girls?

phone rang. seventeen told me she got arrested by politur. handed over the phone to a man who told me she would be released if somebody came to pick her up. this spooked me. took refuge in my hotel, seeking guidance from isg folks. called a cupid chick and spent the rest of the night in puerto plata. i felt really awful at abandoning seventeen, though, after all the horror stories i've heard from chicas who spent a night in jail at the hands of politur.

monday. the chicas strike back.

had to wake up very early to make it to breakfast at new garden. like 11am. insane. underestimated the value of a good breakfast. couple of decent-looking chicas around the pool, for a change. new garden is definitely the best hotel i've stayed at.

"facebook pictures can be misleading!". that's what i though driving back form a disastrous cupid date in puerto plata. back in sosua, i called a cutie i met at rumba couple of days ago to have a grilled fish on the beach. that day, johanny bet me she could drink 5 whiskey in row without being drunk. she lost. and so did i since i ended up with a drunk chica on my laps. i did take advantage of her curves in the bar, but i was not risking having vomit in my bathroom.

johanny showed up at jorge's beach restaurant right before sunset, a dominicana-standard 60 min late. the reddish sky over sosua bay made for the perfect background to her delicate frame and fluffy highlighted hair. yet the minute she sat down i sensed something was wrong. she frantically checked her blackberry and looked distressed. turned out her family back in santo domingo recently learned she went into prostitution."how much do you make a day? 10000?" said a message on her phone from a cousin. this also explained her drinking binge the other day. johanny was clearly more educated than most. she could actually write entire words in spanish without a spelling mistake. but she had 3 kids to feed back home, at only 23. she came to the north coast hoping to find a job as a waitress. told me a lot about making cocktails. but then money ran out. her ass was the only thing left to sell.

faithful to my series of bad decisions, i offered johanny a short-term 1500 pesos job. wanted to check these curves again. being treated like a prostitute when she was looking for emotional comfort made her feel worse, not surprisingly. she retaliated with one of the worst session ever. only agreed to do reverse-cowgirl. she was putting so little effort into it that i managed to get soft inside her. i got what i deserved, i guess.

it was still early, so went back hunting at classico. sara hit me for a beer. still sulking. estefani came to dance with me, but i was feeling like a change of girl. tried my luck at rumba. of course bumped on jennifer, the girl i had motoconched-away on friday. she did not say a word. her gaze said it all. i desperately looked for a friendly face to sit with. yanny was smiling at me. she was hanging out at the pool in new garden in the afternoon as i was catching up on work, and we chatted a bit. tall, slim and still good looking in her late twenties. the kind of girl you won't have any trouble with. chatted 5 min. 1200 pesos, and she was in my bed."why am i always making things so complicated?" i wondered while watching her manicured light brown feet swing by my shoulders at the rhythm of my pounding.

tuesday. not so grand finale.

arrived late from bidding farewell to my favorite cupid chicks. with a detour to field of dreams. intended on rampaging the strip for my last night. i could now walk through the entire strip without any chica harassing me. inversely pedro clissante seemed full of familar faces. sosua is a small town. sat down to share a beer on the green plastic chairs by el flow, when i saw a pretty frame walking by swiftly. my style: tall, slim, dark brown, with a natural elegance. approached her as she was reaching dr. rosen. she had deep lines on her face, making her look sad and tired, yet she had a certain beauty. she invited me to walk along through the streets of sosua.

this was an odd discussion. she introduced herself as "peligro" (danger) , nicknamed she received after a violent fight on sosua strip. she clearly needed somebody to talk to. told me about a youth of violence, hardship, survival, murders. she had a long scar on her face from a previous battle when she nearly killed a policeman. yet there was kindness in her face. as we sat on a small wall across from cmp, she shared her anguish that her mother might learn she went into prostitution a few months ago. but she wanted to make money to live on her own in sosua. she took pride in being actually born in sosua, even if raised in santiago.

i liked her, in spite the scariness of her tales. i always fall for wild ones. invited her for a bar crawl all the way back to classico's. we shared beers, i insisted she have lunch with me. she ordered a plate of french fries, and ate 3 of them. i offered her to do a stop at new garden as we reached back dr. rosen. she opted for classico's instead. she liked dancing, but seemed uncomfortable with bachata. she stayed composed as sara, still upset at me, came to ask for beer a few times. once in the hotel, she turned out to be as tender in bed as she was sweet on the dance floor. stayed mostly in missionary, constantly caressing my face and my body as to make sure i was real.

in the morning i walked her out early as my planes was a few hours away. gave her 3, 000 and a long hug. she did not know i was about to get back home.

as i rushed to puerto plata airport, i saw estefani on a motoconcho all dressed up coming to bid me farewell. it was too late to turn back. my heart squeezed as i watch her long floating black mane slowly disappear in the dust of sosua through the back mirror.

i love the girls of sosua. every single of them.

thanks for bearing with me. i have been a monger for 4 months now, and it does help me to keep track of how things evolve. hopefully it help some of you to, as this board has proved invaluable to me. plus who else am i going to share it with? report on my previous trip is at:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-sosua-reports&p=1288483#post1288483[/url]

wow enjoyed your stories so much. i like you love sosua and having drama with chicas makes the experience that more incredible. do you think the 17 year old was a set up with the police. the age of consent in the dr is 18. 17 could be a problem. when i got to the end of your account i was sad.

[quote=sammy sosa; 1311977]fourth trip to sosua last week. getting wild.

wednesday 18th. living among the putas.

drove straight from santiago airport at 4am. best hour to cross santiago. banged at sara's door shortly after sunrise. she opened the door entirely naked. typical sara. her moist flat stomach, endless legs, firm breasts and expressive face aroused me right away. i felt like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] her right away on the sofa. she would not have mind. but i did not want her to stick around. plus she had no sofa.

sara is the wild girl i met last trip who lost her kid 2 years ago and parties heavily ever since to forget. i changed her name to "sally" in my previous reports, as i though she was a junkie. we agreed on facebook that i would rent her apartment in plaza sosua. i noticed many girls live there and relished the idea of being in the middle of it all.

not a good idea. the place was noisy, her a / c was not working well. sara was clearly intent on sticking around in spite of our agreement. started telling me not to bring chicas in her apartment. duh. i was off to hotel europa before sunset. sara was furious.

hit the strip after a short nap. girls seemed more aggressive. business is slow, and they smelt fresh meat. got stalked by a fat chica with huge boobs, and took refuge at the new garden. sit down with 2 good looking girls at the bar. dari and her older sister were visiting from santo domingo hoping to make a few bucks for the children back home. dari had a few extra pounds but still a teen body, a friendly round face, inquisitive eyes and a broad smile. and clearly not very experienced. i knew i would regret taking her to bed. got bored fucking her after 10 minutes. felt like being in bed with an inflatable doll. but at least dolls do not complain when you put them in a different position. decided to keep my "leche" for a more worthwhile receptacle.

hit classico, this time really in need of a good lay. found quickly what i was looking for. a tall, slim, sexy "negrita" was dancing alone at the center of the floor. estefani turned out to be a real nice girl. she was more experienced, and drove a harder bargain. at the close of classico, we went to my hotel to smoke then a great, badly needed session. felt like more dancing and we returned to afterone without her asking for payment."you won't go with another chica?" she asked shyly as we reached the disco. clearly a keeper. when afterone finally kicked us out, and after a quick refuel at caipirinha, back to bed for another great session. estefani is a great kisser, like to licks everything she can get her tongue on, and know how to move her body in a smooth wavelike motion like a cat in heat. negotiated 2000 and gave her a well deserved 3000. i became instantly her favorite customer.

thursday. the bombshell's sister.

woke up late and called sara (sally) hoping to make up. as we reached my car, estefani chose that moment to show up at my hotel. i avoided sara's dark gaze as i switftly gave motoconcho money to estefani to make her disappear. damage was done. sara went on sulking the whole lunch, in spite of jorge's wonderful fried fish.

did bar hoping along pedro clissante in the evening. set my choice on a cute slender teen at rumba. syndie had sexy lips and natural long black hair. a newbie though. i always fall for newbies. took her to bailey's to eat some chewing shrimps drawn in a ketchupy sauce with a french name. i felt bad for the shrimps. and for my wallet. maybe better stick to fried stuff in the d. r.

at classico, syndie was not into dancing. she turned down a bachatta. never thought that possible from a dominicana. went to dance with another girl and that brought syndie back to life. i start understanding dominicana's psychology. still not a good dancer, but at least she stayed around grinding her butt on my crotch. geez i was missing that. wendy the bombshell came to join us. wendy is a gorgeous girl from a previous trip that showed up at my hotel one morning with all her belongings. turned out syndie is wendy's sister. went on dancing squeezed between 2 beauties all evening. long live classico. and yes, the though of doing a threesome with 2 sisters did cross my mind, you pervert.

in bed, syndie was clearly inexperienced. she knew how to go through the motion (thank you, wendy) , doing shower play, then bed teasing, blowjob, and on to multiple positions. but the skills were not there."i can feel your teeth", i whined. good tight pussy and eager to learn though. it was fun to teach a 18 years old where are the sensitive parts of the male organ. will be interesting to see how she evolves over the months.

friday. leave me alone, or i jump on the first motoconcho.

had a few cupid-dates lined up, so checked in at the field of dream in puerto plata.

drove my latest sweetheart safely back home around 11pm, and decided against all logic to drive back to classico. as i hit the floor squeezed between a couple of tall sexy beauties, it just hit me. i am addicted to classico. and to cute useless little things as well. started dancing with a pretty "chikita" teen. the kind i would regret to take to bed. even in classico she was not comfortable. her older sister, jennifer, quickly joined us. not as pretty, but slim and clearly in party mood. and much more assertive than her sister. starting grinding her butt on me with gay abandon, touching my dick each time her sister was not looking. who is the hunter here.

as i started dancing more with her, jennifer felt more in charge and finally took over from her sister. once at afterone, she became quite possessive though, getting upset when i was dancing with other girls, even following me as i went to the restroom. that was too much. walked straight out of afterone, jumped on the first motoconcho, and drove straight away. my first time on a motoconcho actually. 2 min later i was in my car and back to puerto plata.

saturday. high school class trip.

arrived late from puerto plata on saturday night. from maimon to be exact. nice seafood restaurants there. fresh and simply cooked. checked in at perla de sosua, as they had a promotion on hotel. com. once there, the manager lectured me about being cautious with chicas from the street. to a guy showing up alone in one of the cheapest place in sosua. what world is he living in?

pop is open again. used to be my favorite "chica interview spot". one of the most quiet place, overlooking the strip. quiet no more, though. because of the loudspeakers, not the number of clients. felt like a local disco in puerto plata. more "open air" than before. sat next to the new owner. also owns the place across the street. asked him how he intends to bring more business. i was expecting some grand plan for attracting chicas."i'll open a disco in the back" he answered proudly. clearly a differentiated strategy. time to move on.

young looking girl having a soup on her own next to the german bar. i asked for her name."seventeen!" she answered in a heavily accented english. she looked less than 17. her i'd said she was 18. seventeen (pamela of her real name) turned out to have a fun, extrovert personality. decided to join along."as long as you don't pass first base, sammy sosa", to borrow frannie's word. offered seventeen a beer and soon i was surrounded by her barely-older friends. felt like in high school again. except for the erotic twist. took my class to el flow for some karaoke singing. loved singing these bachata as much as dancing them. then off to the casino. girls only wanted to play slot machines, so got bored quickly. discreetly slipped out to classico for some grown-up fun.

estefani was available at classico, and i felt like dancing and good sex. after afterone and the customary "motoconcho tabacco visit", started probably the best sex i had in sosua. estefani became wild in bed, sticking her tongue everywhere she could and for as long as i let her. her body was ondulating as if it had a mind of its own. she was shaking each time i licked her tits. managed to make love to her with my tongue on her nipples the whole time. very uncomfortable. very hot. she came several time and still wanted more. i had to beg her to stop.

sunday. politur calling.

manager from perla de sosua woke me up at 10am to make sure i would leave the hotel by noon. moron. hotel looked empty. back to new garden. tired of hotel hopping. and badly needed a nap.

had a date with one of the waitress from the dutch-owned bar across from bailey's. a young, slim, dark-skin cutie like i seem to favor. went to meet her at the beach. carla never showed up. really enjoyed the sunset facing the bay on my own though, a couple of fruit punch, oysters from street vendors, a live band playing nearby and watch locals dance. dominicans really have dancing in their blood.

hit rumba after sunset. saw sara at the bar. alone, surprisingly. super hot, not surprisingly. paid the usual beer tax. still behaving like a jealous wife. moved on quickly.

sat down with wendy-the-bombshell and her friends. told me she wanted to have an operation to enlarge her butt."eh! but you're one of the hottest thing on the strip!". got brainwashed by her (too?) voluptuous friend next seat. i did mention gringos tend to prefer them slim. a bit on the slow side, our friend wendy. asked about her sister. this made her upset somehow. what's wrong with these girls?

phone rang. seventeen told me she got arrested by politur. handed over the phone to a man who told me she would be released if somebody came to pick her up. this spooked me. took refuge in my hotel, seeking guidance from isg folks. called a cupid chick and spent the rest of the night in puerto plata. i felt really awful at abandoning seventeen, though, after all the horror stories i've heard from chicas who spent a night in jail at the hands of politur.

monday. the chicas strike back.

had to wake up very early to make it to breakfast at new garden. like 11am. insane. underestimated the value of a good breakfast. couple of decent-looking chicas around the pool, for a change. new garden is definitely the best hotel i've stayed at.

"facebook pictures can be misleading!". that's what i though driving back form a disastrous cupid date in puerto plata. back in sosua, i called a cutie i met at rumba couple of days ago to have a grilled fish on the beach. that day, johanny bet me she could drink 5 whiskey in row without being drunk. she lost. and so did i since i ended up with a drunk chica on my laps. i did take advantage of her curves in the bar, but i was not risking having vomit in my bathroom.

johanny showed up at jorge's beach restaurant right before sunset, a dominicana-standard 60 min late. the reddish sky over sosua bay made for the perfect background to her delicate frame and fluffy highlighted hair. yet the minute she sat down i sensed something was wrong. she frantically checked her blackberry and looked distressed. turned out her family back in santo domingo recently learned she went into prostitution."how much do you make a day? 10000?" said a message on her phone from a cousin. this also explained her drinking binge the other day. johanny was clearly more educated than most. she could actually write entire words in spanish without a spelling mistake. but she had 3 kids to feed back home, at only 23. she came to the north coast hoping to find a job as a waitress. told me a lot about making cocktails. but then money ran out. her ass was the only thing left to sell.

faithful to my series of bad decisions, i offered johanny a short-term 1500 pesos job. wanted to check these curves again. being treated like a prostitute when she was looking for emotional comfort made her feel worse, not surprisingly. she retaliated with one of the worst session ever. only agreed to do reverse-cowgirl. she was putting so little effort into it that i managed to get soft inside her. i got what i deserved, i guess.

it was still early, so went back hunting at classico. sara hit me for a beer. still sulking. estefani came to dance with me, but i was feeling like a change of girl. tried my luck at rumba. of course bumped on jennifer, the girl i had motoconched-away on friday. she did not say a word. her gaze said it all. i desperately looked for a friendly face to sit with. yanny was smiling at me. she was hanging out at the pool in new garden in the afternoon as i was catching up on work, and we chatted a bit. tall, slim and still good looking in her late twenties. the kind of girl you won't have any trouble with. chatted 5 min. 1200 pesos, and she was in my bed."why am i always making things so complicated?" i wondered while watching her manicured light brown feet swing by my shoulders at the rhythm of my pounding.

tuesday. not so grand finale.

arrived late from bidding farewell to my favorite cupid chicks. with a detour to field of dreams. intended on rampaging the strip for my last night. i could now walk through the entire strip without any chica harassing me. inversely pedro clissante seemed full of familar faces. sosua is a small town. sat down to share a beer on the green plastic chairs by el flow, when i saw a pretty frame walking by swiftly. my style: tall, slim, dark brown, with a natural elegance. approached her as she was reaching dr. rosen. she had deep lines on her face, making her look sad and tired, yet she had a certain beauty. she invited me to walk along through the streets of sosua.

this was an odd discussion. she introduced herself as "peligro" (danger) , nicknamed she received after a violent fight on sosua strip. she clearly needed somebody to talk to. told me about a youth of violence, hardship, survival, murders. she had a long scar on her face from a previous battle when she nearly killed a policeman. yet there was kindness in her face. as we sat on a small wall across from cmp, she shared her anguish that her mother might learn she went into prostitution a few months ago. but she wanted to make money to live on her own in sosua. she took pride in being actually born in sosua, even if raised in santiago.

i liked her, in spite the scariness of her tales. i always fall for wild ones. invited her for a bar crawl all the way back to classico's. we shared beers, i insisted she have lunch with me. she ordered a plate of french fries, and ate 3 of them. i offered her to do a stop at new garden as we reached back dr. rosen. she opted for classico's instead. she liked dancing, but seemed uncomfortable with bachata. she stayed composed as sara, still upset at me, came to ask for beer a few times. once in the hotel, she turned out to be as tender in bed as she was sweet on the dance floor. stayed mostly in missionary, constantly caressing my face and my body as to make sure i was real.

in the morning i walked her out early as my planes was a few hours away. gave her 3, 000 and a long hug. she did not know i was about to get back home.

as i rushed to puerto plata airport, i saw estefani on a motoconcho all dressed up coming to bid me farewell. it was too late to turn back. my heart squeezed as i watch her long floating black mane slowly disappear in the dust of sosua through the back mirror.

i love the girls of sosua. every single of them.

thanks for bearing with me. i have been a monger for 4 months now, and it does help me to keep track of how things evolve. hopefully it help some of you to, as this board has proved invaluable to me. plus who else am i going to share it with? report on my previous trip is at:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-sosua-reports&p=1288483#post1288483[/url][/quote]

Thinking about a trip to Sosua this month. I've never been to DR and am wondering if this is a slow time of year or will there be plenty of chicas.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1312017]WOW enjoyed your stories so much. I like you love Sosua and having drama with chicas makes the experience that more incredible. Do you think the 17 year old was a set up with the police. The age of consent in the DR is 18. 17 could be a problem. When I got to the end of your account I was sad.[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter what the age of consent is, it is the age of majority that counts and it doesn't matter what it is in the DR it matters what it is in your home country and in the USA it is 18 with the following exceptions Alabama is 19,Mississippi is 21,Nebraska is 19.

As a law school drop up I can assure it is the age of consent. In the Us it varies by state. Where I live it is 16. You can google if you like. Majority has nothing to do with sex. It is for being able to enter contracts and other legal arrangements. IN the DR age of consent is 18. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#Delaware Most state it is 16 however there some are 18 and 17.Quote from my law book" Age of majority should not be confused with the age of sexual consent, marriageable age, the driving age, the voting age, etc., which all may sometimes be independent of, and set at a different age from, the age of majority".

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1312048]It doesn't matter what the age of consent is, it is the age of majority that counts and it doesn't matter what it is in the DR it matters what it is in your home country and in the USA it is 18 with the following exceptions Alabama is 19,Mississippi is 21,Nebraska is 19.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1312055]As a law school drop up I can assure it is the age of consent. In the Us it varies by state. Where I live it is 16. You can google if you like. Majority has nothing to do with sex. It is for being able to enter contracts and other legal arrangements. IN the DR age of consent is 18. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#Delaware Most state it is 16 however there some are 18 and 17.Quote from my law book" Age of majority should not be confused with the age of sexual consent, marriageable age, the driving age, the voting age, etc., which all may sometimes be independent of, and set at a different age from, the age of majority".[/QUOTE]Thanks for the law school effort!

If you bang a 17 year old Dominicana with the right connections, you will be locked up with Bubba with no bathroom, no food, and no water in 100 degree heat in Puerto Plata.

Why even take the chance? The age of sexual consent in New York is 17 FYI, that does not mean you can practice this rule in Sosua, NOT A GOOD IDEA.

As stated age of concent in the DR is 18 Perry Mason out. Dominicans are banging 14 year olds all day long. I never indicated banging 17 year olds was legal.

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1312060]Thanks for the law school effort!

If you bang a 17 year old Dominicana with the right connections, you will be locked up with Bubba with no bathroom, no food, and no water in 100 degree heat in Puerto Plata.

Why even take the chance? The age of sexual consent in New York is 17 FYI, that does not mean you can practice this rule in Sosua, NOT A GOOD IDEA.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1312078]As stated age of concent in the DR is 18 Perry Mason out. Dominicans are banging 14 year olds all day long. I never indicated banging 17 year olds was legal.[/QUOTE]Bill Clinton made age of consent for all Americans 18 overseas unless you are living in that country. As far as age of consent is 16 in your state it is where I live too but in the the case of P4P it is 18 minimum here.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1312078]As stated age of concent in the DR is 18 Perry Mason out. Dominicans are banging 14 year olds all day long. I never indicated banging 17 year olds was legal.[/QUOTE]A Dominican guy I know (in his 20's) was taken to court and had to pay 80, 000 pesos to the family of a girl of 13 he had sex with and was blocked from leaving the country until he paid up, so don't make the assumption that it is universally acceptable.

13 is less then 18 last time I checked[

QUOTE=Frannie; 1312236]A Dominican guy I know (in his 20's) was taken to court and had to pay 80, 000 pesos to the family of a girl of 13 he had sex with and was blocked from leaving the country until he paid up, so don't make the assumption that it is universally acceptable.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool; 1312242]13 is less then 18 last time I checked[

QUOTE=Frannie; 1312236]A Dominican guy I know (in his 20's) was taken to court and had to pay 80, 000 pesos to the family of a girl of 13 he had sex with and was blocked from leaving the country until he paid up, so don't make the assumption that it is universally acceptable.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Look carefully at the quote from your post that I was replying to.

Dominicans do not know what the law is because they are fucking 14 year old girls all day not that it was legal.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1312311][/QUOTE]Look carefully at the quote from your post that I was replying to.[/QUOTE]

Man I totally enjoyed your informative report, but I must say your "classroom"adventures were a bit risky. I think that situation could have blow up in your face. I think you quoted another monger saying Its Ok as long as you don't, pass"first base"or something like that well if thats the case I will take up "knitting"I won't even play baseball, especially if that game you couldve been deemed "OUT"before you even went up to bat. I am glad nothing bad happened to you.

I think parading around with a bunch of questionable chicas "age wise" couldve been a disaster. I know this maybe Monday morning quarterbacking, but I think even You"got "Spooked"when the politur came calling when your friend "seventeen"called getting hemmed up, by the politur. I think you reported you "took refuge in your hotel room"fearing a possible crooked politur and chica con job"and Why did that young chica even have your number?

You also touched off a spirited age driven debate"here but one thing We can all agree

Upon, including you. Maybe the next time you see a young chica eating soup alone, leave here be. Maybe its just me but it seemed under the right circumstance you wouldve tried something with that chica. Why would you seek company with them young ass chicas? There wasnt anyone YOUR age to hangout with and talk too. It had to be tbem young ass chicas? Well like I said something about your decision, bothered you enough to cower in your hotel. I am glad you got passed that, and you had fun.

Always check there I'd or stay at a place that will. Don't be a dumb ass because they will take advance of you. The only poor locals can fuck 12 and 13 year olds with no problems.

[QUOTE=Dick Hertz;1312359]Always check there I'd or stay at a place that will. Don't be a dumb ass because they will take advance of you. The only poor locals can fuck 12 and 13 year olds with no problems.[/QUOTE]You mean there are different rules for gringos than locals? What about prices? LOL

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1312397]You mean there are different rules for gringos than locals? What about prices? LOL[/QUOTE]Yes all the chica's charge the locals guys 1000-2500 peso to fuck. LOL You didn't know the local have pockets full of money.

Young pussy can be very tempting. When I was 20 a friend got married. His wifes sister was 16 and sexy as could be. She layed in the floor and begged me to fuck her. I thought she was to young so I passed. With all the pussy in the DR I guess some guys start working on there bucket list. She looked 18 LOL. I had a sweety who lived in San Francisco de marconis her father 43 had a 17 year old wife and a 15 year old girl friend. No Lie. The two ladies had a fight and wife cut the girlfriend in the face (saw the pictures on face book) first picture san fran sweet pussy other old girl friend

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1312397]You mean there are different rules for gringos than locals? What about prices? LOL[/QUOTE]

I was in Sosua two years ago for my birthday an a girl I spent a couple of nights with wanted to bring her 14 year old sister with her for my present. She was gorgeous with a pair of natural 42 DDD but I let the big head make the decision and said no. I saw the sister yesterday knocked fup almost ready to drop the baby. Like I said don't be a dumb ass and you will keep your money.

I know that was hard in two ways. Seeing that young tight body trip ds. Glad it was not me. I think fright would kept me cool.

[QUOTE=Dick Hertz;1312415]I was in Sosua two years ago for my birthday an a girl I spent a couple of nights with wanted to bring her 14 year old sister with her for my present. She was gorgeous with a pair of natural 42 DDD but I let the big head make the decision and said no. I saw the sister yesterday knocked fup almost ready to drop the baby. Like I said don't be a dumb ass and you will keep your money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sammy Sosa;1311977]Phone rang. Seventeen told me she got arrested by Politur. Handed over the phone to a man who told me she would be released if somebody came to pick her up. This spooked me. Took refuge in my hotel, seeking guidance from ISG folks. Called a Cupid chick and spent the rest of the night in Puerto Plata. I felt really awful at abandoning Seventeen, though, after all the horror stories I've heard from Chicas who spent a night in jail at the hands of Politur.[/QUOTE]No, I would not have gone to pick up this girl, especially when you did not know her. A relative of a friend is different, in which case you have the relative spring her. If I felt sorry for her and one of my Politur friends worked in this town, I might call him and ask him to intervene as a kindness gesture but nothing more.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1312055]As a law school drop up I can assure it is the age of consent. In the Us it varies by state. Where I live it is 16. You can google if you like. Majority has nothing to do with sex. It is for being able to enter contracts and other legal arrangements. IN the DR age of consent is 18. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#Delaware Most state it is 16 however there some are 18 and 17.Quote from my law book" Age of majority should not be confused with the age of sexual consent, marriageable age, the driving age, the voting age, etc., which all may sometimes be independent of, and set at a different age from, the age of majority".[/QUOTE]With all due respect, OldKool, trust the professor on this one: Federal law applies, not state law, as you are involved in the international arena. This area of law is well-settled. Do [b][u]NOT[/u][/b] Get involved with anyone under 18, period. Even if the Dominicans decline to prosecute, if the USA Embassy, ICE, or Federal LE find out about this prior to the statute of limitations running, you will, not may be, charged under Federal law. Moreover, it is well-established that the Federal Government has paid to fly victims to the USA for the trial.

As stated 6 times the age of consent in the DR is 18. When in the DR their law applies. Also I have not seen any federal statutes relating to this subject. It is posible but after some research I saw nothing relating.

[QUOTE=Professor 1;1312459]With all due respect, OldKool, trust the professor on this one: Federal law applies, not state law, as you are involved in the international arena. This area of law is well-settled. Do [b][u]NOT[/u][/b] Get involved with anyone under 18, period. Even if the Dominicans decline to prosecute, if the USA Embassy, ICE, or Federal LE find out about this prior to the statute of limitations running, you will, not may be, charged under Federal law. Moreover, it is well-established that the Federal Government has paid to fly victims to the USA for the trial.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1312487]As stated 6 times the age of consent in the DR is 18. When in the DR their law applies. Also I have not seen any federal statutes relating to this subject. It is posible but after some research I saw nothing relating.[/QUOTE]You did not look that hard:

§ 2421 Interstate and international sex trafficking, travel across a border to engage in sex. 5-10.

§ 2422 Enticing or coercing a person to travel across a state line or international boundary to engage in prostitution. 10-20 years

§ 1591 Enticing, recruiting, or obtaining a person to benefit from pandering activities- life in prison.

It gets worse when kids are involved. Few convictions from these federal statutes and more but enough to ruing a career!

Traveling with the intent purpose to engage in prostitutes regardless if its legal in that country is a illegal for American Citizens. But, as I have been told, I don't know what I'm talking about. Never, Ever Ever engage in talk about chicks with custom agent and for the idiot traveling with toys, good luck.

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce;1312497]Traveling with the intent purpose to engage in prostitutes regardless if its legal in that country is a illegal for American Citizens.[/QUOTE]Oh well, I guess I'm fucked!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1312503]Oh well, I guess I'm fucked![/QUOTE]That's going to make 2 of us!

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce;1312497]Traveling with the intent purpose to engage in prostitutes regardless if its legal in that country is a illegal for American Citizens. Never, Ever Ever engage in talk about chicks with custom agent and for the idiot traveling with toys, good luck.[/QUOTE]I've done all 3 of the above in addition to being searched with bootleg movies in my bag and not so much as a finger wag to date. Stop being paranoid.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1211152]I took the trolley to Tijuana at 1:33pm today. When I crossed the border the place where I always change money said be back in 5 minutes. So I ate a taco for 15 pesos. I exchanged $55 at a rate of 12. 735 and got 700. 42 pesos. Now the best exchange rate I saw today was at the place right next to McDonald's when you get off the trolley. Their rate was 12. 919, so I will be using them from now on....

I almost made it to the border when I saw the churro man. Dammit all to hell. I must have gained 8 pounds today. I asked him how much and he said 13 pesos. I told him to give me 10 pesos worth then because that is all I had. He filled the bag up and I ate them on my way to the line. Since I have the Global Entry Card I was able to go to the Sentry line. Actually there wasn't really a line since I was the only one there. I just went ahead of the people who were actually waiting in the regular line. I handed the Immigration guy my card and he scanned it. This was the moment I had been planning for all day. He asked me what I was doing in Mexico. I told him,"NOTHING. JUST FUCKIN' THEM HOES." He didn't bat an eyelid. He just said,"Okay. Go on." The time was 6:59pm and I had 100 pesos left.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce;1312497]Traveling with the intent purpose to engage in prostitutes regardless if its legal in that country is a illegal for American Citizens.[/QUOTE]Where is that law? I think your living in a wet dream. Show that I am wrong otherwise sign up for the kidee board. Don't confuse traveling with the intent to have sex with minors with prostitutes.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1312487]As stated 6 times the age of consent in the DR is 18. When in the DR their law applies. Also I have not seen any federal statutes relating to this subject. It is possible but after some research I saw nothing relating.[/QUOTE]It is covered under the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, to which the US and many other nations are signatories. It is not the age of consent that is relevant, but the age of 18 for prostitution.

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce;1312497]and for the idiot traveling with toys, good luck.[/QUOTE]I guess I'm an idiot because I've always brought vibrators on my trips and give them away as gifts at the end of my trip. Never had any problems after 7 trips.

Just tell the customs agent that you are/was visiting your girlfriend that you met on the Internet :D.

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce; 1312497]You did not look that hard:

§ 2421 Interstate and international sex trafficking, travel across a border to engage in sex. 5-10.

§ 2422 Enticing or coercing a person to travel across a state line or international boundary to engage in prostitution. 10-20 years

§ 1591 Enticing, recruiting, or obtaining a person to benefit from pandering activities- life in prison.

It gets worse when kids are involved. Few convictions from these federal statutes and more but enough to ruing a career!

Traveling with the intent purpose to engage in prostitutes regardless if its legal in that country is a illegal for American Citizens. But, as I have been told, I don't know what I'm talking about. Never, Ever Ever engage in talk about chicks with custom agent and for the idiot traveling with toys, good luck.[/QUOTE]I would want to see one case, where a US citizen was prosecuted and found guilty, for paying an adult prostitute for sex in a foreign country. Prostitution (in brothels) is legal in parts of Nevada, a state in the United States. Has anyone been prosecuted and found guilty for traveling to a brothel in Nevada? Or have any of the brothels in Nevada been charged and convicted, for enticing people from other states to visit them?

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce; 1312497]You did not look that hard:

§ 2421 Interstate and international sex trafficking, travel across a border to engage in sex. 5-10.

§ 2422 Enticing or coercing a person to travel across a state line or international boundary to engage in prostitution. 10-20 years

§ 1591 Enticing, recruiting, or obtaining a person to benefit from pandering activities- life in prison.

It gets worse when kids are involved. Few convictions from these federal statutes and more but enough to ruing a career!

Traveling with the intent purpose to engage in prostitutes regardless if its legal in that country is a illegal for American Citizens. But, as I have been told, I don't know what I'm talking about. Never, Ever Ever engage in talk about chicks with custom agent and for the idiot traveling with toys, good luck.[/QUOTE]There are thousands of law that this country has. If none of them are enforced who cares. It would be hard to find a jury to convict you.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1312622]I would want to see one case, where a US citizen was prosecuted and found guilty, for paying an adult prostitute for sex in a foreign country. Prostitution (in brothels) is legal in parts of Nevada, a state in the United States. Has anyone been prosecuted and found guilty for traveling to a brothel in Nevada? Or have any of the brothels in Nevada been charged and convicted, for enticing people from other states to visit them?[/QUOTE]Yes, sir Jao sosua you are spot on correct! I live in Portland, Or our claimed to fame is The most stripper bars per capita, than ANY, Us city, I guess it rains so fucking much here, we need something to pass the time. LOL! My point is alot of these strippers are hoes, and they migrate to Carson, Nevada Las Vegas, Nevada and Reno, Nevada. Its advertise in a lot of our local newspapers here. Completely legal. What people don't know in the CITY of Las Vegas prostitution is ILLEGAL, you have to go outside of Las Vegas, to a city called Parrumph, maybe my man Coolie High will chime in.

So theres a few areas here in the US, that its advertise and completely legal. I'm pretty sure they can't be that stupid, to advertise for "johns"and hoes if it wasnt completely legal. I may be wrong backpage does it ALL THE TIME. LOL, I've never heard of a single case of a guy, here getting arrested for going to a legal brothel.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1312606]It is covered under the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, to which the US and many other nations are signatories. It is not the age of consent that is relevant, but the age of 18 for prostitution.[/QUOTE]The PROTECT Act of 2003 is a United States law with the stated intent of preventing child abuse."PROTECT" is a acronym which stands for "Prosecutorial Remedies and Other Tools to end the Exploitation of Children Today".

This Act also covers US citizens traveling overseas to abuse children (defined as under 18) and offers up to 30 years in prison.

However my impression is that the person or persons would have to be arrested overseas or in a joint US / local operation due the the problems of witness statements, getting testimony in a US court and so on. I know there was a case in Haiti of a child worker, but considerable problems of getting witnesses from Haiti to the US. L.

By the way, what is a "law-school drop-up"? Is that someone who left law school to take up a higher calling.

[QUOTE=Sammy Sosa;1311977]Phone rang. Seventeen told me she got arrested by Politur. Handed over the phone to a man who told me she would be released if somebody came to pick her up. This spooked me. Took refuge in my hotel, seeking guidance from ISG folks. Called a Cupid chick and spent the rest of the night in Puerto Plata. I felt really awful at abandoning Seventeen, though, after all the horror stories I've heard from Chicas who spent a night in jail at the hands of Politur.[/QUOTE]Excellent report from start to finish, and then from start to finish again as I had to read it twice.

I had veal on offer as part of the menu during my trip down to Sosua as well. Picked up a New Garden "girl" that turned out to be a pro amongst pros. She was a grandmother at 32 as she had a 17 yeard old daughter who got pregnant at 15 and now had a 2 year old. Anyway, Granny had been on the game so long she probably would have told me that Christopher Columbus gave her good head once while docked on the Santa Maria had I inquired. She did give me a hint on her day to day conga line like streak of punters she had and let's just say that the only word to describe her streak of johns is "Ripken-esque." Her streak of using the word "fuck" from sentence to sentence was "Ripken-esque" as well. If 400 meter wh0ring were part of the 30th Olympiad she'd be taking gold on the podium right up there with Felix Sanchez. With that being established though it probably wasn't so surpsiring that she offered her 17 year old daughter to me. We were sitting at Big Ds enjoying some druken chicken on the beach and she added her 17 year old daughter to the menu. She offered to babysit her daughter's 2 year old for a couple and hours and stated she could have her daughter there in 15 minutes as she whipped out her phone ready to dial. I insisted hell no being that I didn't want to upgrade from Terra Linda Hotel to La Victoria Prison but she insisted that it was no problemo. My counter-offer of fuck no was finally accepted and the topic was dropped.

As Deep and OldKool and others have re-iterated, it is not something that should be courted; to use a pun. A few weeks ago Revere wrote an excellent report in the Go-Go furum about a visit he made to La Victoria prison an hour outside of Santo Domingo. In it he stated that amongst the horrible conditions of the prison he saw a hopelessly lost looking 50 year old European man who was locked up for having sex with a 15 year old. A 10 year sentence.

I to bring toys and it has been a shock to me how well received they are. No chica has opposed there use. I like you give them as gifts when I am through. Funny thing they never ask if they have been used. Part of my trip preparation is buying toys. I have two amigas who and are excited that I am bringing them. Sir what are you planning to do with these. Answer have a really good timeLOL.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1312618]I guess I'm an idiot because I've always brought vibrators on my trips and give them away as gifts at the end of my trip. Never had any problems after 7 trips.

Just tell the customs agent that you are / was visiting your girlfriend that you met on the Internet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Drai;1312753]Excellent report from start to finish, and then from start to finish again as I had to read it twice.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Said by the master, I take that as quite a compliment. .

[QUOTE=Sammy Sosa;1311977]Phone rang. Seventeen told me she got arrested by Politur. Handed over the phone to a man who told me she would be released if somebody came to pick her up. This spooked me. Took refuge in my hotel, seeking guidance from ISG folks. Called a Cupid chick and spent the rest of the night in Puerto Plata. I felt really awful at abandoning Seventeen, though, after all the horror stories I've heard from Chicas who spent a night in jail at the hands of Politur.[/QUOTE]

I was looking at all these gorgeous young girls walking around and thinking if I was in Sosua I could have any of them. So I started picking out body types for my nest trip. Made my mall visit way more interesting. Sex prison is hell I need a parole very soon. Help!

[QUOTE=OldKool;1312487]As stated 6 times the age of consent in the DR is 18. When in the DR their law applies. Also I have not seen any federal statutes relating to this subject. It is posible but after some research I saw nothing relating.[/QUOTE]Try 18 USC section 2252 et seq. You may want to look near 18 USC section 2252 (B) et seq. The USA Government Printing Office site will help. If you go to the law library, try the 2003 volume of the USC and later.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1312622]I would want to see one case, where a US citizen was prosecuted and found guilty, for paying an adult prostitute for sex in a foreign country. Prostitution (in brothels) is legal in parts of Nevada, a state in the United States. Has anyone been prosecuted and found guilty for traveling to a brothel in Nevada? Or have any of the brothels in Nevada been charged and convicted, for enticing people from other states to visit them?[/QUOTE]

You are right. The USA Government does not waste its time prosecuting prostitution between consenting adults outside the USA Refer to the US Attorneys Manual. It will slam a citizen or resident for child abuse.

girl x.

i will not list her name because i don't want to put her out there like that and i do appreciate the fact that she carries herself with class. however, i will share the name via pm with a select few if they are interested. she has a rep with the other chicas as being snooty, but that shit actually turned me on.

in my previous story, i had a top level experience at passions. so much so that i couldn't shake it out of my mind and left classicos solo thursday night. friday, i kicked it on the beach. finally had big d's chicken and it was good as advertised. played some beach football with my boys until one of them ran over a rock. ouch! me and one of my boys snatched two nice chicas from the beach for a mid day sport fuck. i guess i figured i'd better be safe and get the edge off since i slept alone the previous night. don't want to choose to soon.

friday night seemed to be the most crowded and with a higher caliber of chicas overall. we didn't make it out until 12:30 am or so. since it was too late for the chill scene, we went straight to classicos. the scene is good. it has been better in the past, but i still saw quite a few 9 ish chicas floating about after only being there about 10 minutes.

initial post up was in front of the lower level bar to the right. i love this area for whatever reason. i had barely made a dent in my presidente when my buddy got my attention to look in the corner of bar at girl x. hot damn! like whoa! out respect, i gave him first dibs. i think he let me go ahead just because he saw the excitement in my eyes. i had to apply my standard approach at hyper speed so i went over my checklist.

1. she is sitting back in the cut.

2. she appears to be solo and not even socializing with any other chicas.

3. i saw her dismiss two advances.

now, this is outside of what is the minimum. fine, nice body, no gut, dressed fresh, mad sex appeal. i peeped that she was fresh from the salon. hair done, nails done, everything did. you fancy huh? lol ok, there is only one more step. the most important step. how she responds to me.

she caught me looking. well maybe i was staring like a hungry wolf! lol cooly, she looked me off and then looked right back at me and cracked a slight smile. damn she is sexy. i couldn't take it. i'm off towards her. i got to see what is up. as wide open as my nose is for her, our interaction has to be on point. please oh please let her play her cards right.

brief convo. no red flags. she is turned totally facing me and vice versa. good eye contact. mutual admiration. i finished my beer and ordered aqua to keep my wits and dilute the alcohol. my pregaming earlier that night with henny black was more than enough. she finished her beer and i offered her a drink. she ordered a f'and presidente! sweet. i'm in love! lol.

we chilled. off in the corner nuck of the bar for the rest of the night. light dancing mixed with some serious grinding. i felt no rush from her to leave. i love it when i'm feeling a chica and she wraps her hands around my neck and pulls me close. damn, she smells good. i was tempted to throw my tongue down her throat right there. let's goooooo!

as soon as the taxi door closes, heavy make out session commenced. i'm so hot for this chica and i'm happy to have bagged my dimepiece. stats: 25 years old, honey light brown-skinned. 5'5, petite build, itty bitty titties but nice with big nips. and an incredible bubble butt ass with just enough hips. the ass on this chica has that great "cup" to it on top of being as smooth as silk. yeah, i basically devoured her that night and again in the morning. the sex ran the entire gamut from slow and sensual to animalistic carnage. i came so hard the first nut that i felt like i blinked out. i absolutely love it when my passion peaks with any woman and i'm suspended in time and space. this made my trip. *

i enjoyed her soo much that i repeated with her on saturday. yeah, i locked her down even before going out that night. saturday seemed to be lighter volume than friday, but make no mistake about it. there were more than enough tempting pieces circling around. they didn't even exist in my mind. i'm good.

we drank good that night and had a nightcap at the villa with a few of my boys and their chicas. i sensed some envy. i would have been jealous too! lol the one memory that will burn in my mind forever is with me laying naked in bed while she was in the shower. i had the ipod on deck emitting sweet melodies. the curtains to the sliding door are dancing in the wind and i'm staring up at the ceiling fan waiting on my treat. what a treat she was! it was better than the previous night. the morning was sex was all missionary. bodies closer than close. a rhythmic flow to glory. *

i wish i knew spanish better so i could explain what i felt for her. i was successful communicating my like and desire for her, but what she could understand she had the stance that it was all bullshit. honestly, in another time and place, i would love to make her mine. however, this is sosua. to protect myself, i did not go for night 3. it was last night in town.

it is nice when you can connect with a chica but is dangerous when your heart opens. i am sure she felt the same way. it is one of lifes funnny twist. you meet a dream girl who is a puta. it happens to all of us if you are lucky. some guys use the pyscology degrading women to keep from feeling the majic. however you got more then you paid for. you can connect with a women even a puta. nice report.

[quote=alwayshorny 2; 1312866]girl x.

i will not list her name because i don't want to put her out there like that and i do appreciate the fact that she carries herself with class. however, i will share the name via pm with a select few if they are interested. she has a rep with the other chicas as being snooty, but that shit actually turned me on.

in my previous story, i had a top level experience at passions. so much so that i couldn't shake it out of my mind and left classicos solo thursday night. friday, i kicked it on the beach. finally had big d's chicken and it was good as advertised. played some beach football with my boys until one of them ran over a rock. ouch! me and one of my boys snatched two nice chicas from the beach for a mid day sport fuck. i guess i figured i'd better be safe and get the edge off since i slept alone the previous night. don't want to choose to soon.

friday night seemed to be the most crowded and with a higher caliber of chicas overall. we didn't make it out until 12:30 am or so. since it was too late for the chill scene, we went straight to classicos. the scene is good. it has been better in the past, but i still saw quite a few 9 ish chicas floating about after only being there about 10 minutes.

initial post up was in front of the lower level bar to the right. i love this area for whatever reason. i had barely made a dent in my presidente when my buddy got my attention to look in the corner of bar at girl x. hot damn! like whoa! out respect, i gave him first dibs. i think he let me go ahead just because he saw the excitement in my eyes. i had to apply my standard approach at hyper speed so i went over my checklist.

1. she is sitting back in the cut.

2. she appears to be solo and not even socializing with any other chicas.

3. i saw her dismiss two advances.

now, this is outside of what is the minimum. fine, nice body, no gut, dressed fresh, mad sex appeal. i peeped that she was fresh from the salon. hair done, nails done, everything did. you fancy huh? lol ok, there is only one more step. the most important step. how she responds to me.

she caught me looking. well maybe i was staring like a hungry wolf! lol cooly, she looked me off and then looked right back at me and cracked a slight smile. damn she is sexy. i couldn't take it. i'm off towards her. i got to see what is up. as wide open as my nose is for her, our interaction has to be on point. please oh please let her play her cards right.

brief convo. no red flags. she is turned totally facing me and vice versa. good eye contact. mutual admiration. i finished my beer and ordered aqua to keep my wits and dilute the alcohol. my pregaming earlier that night with henny black was more than enough. she finished her beer and i offered her a drink. she ordered a f'and presidente! sweet. i'm in love! lol.

we chilled. off in the corner nuck of the bar for the rest of the night. light dancing mixed with some serious grinding. i felt no rush from her to leave. i love it when i'm feeling a chica and she wraps her hands around my neck and pulls me close. damn, she smells good. i was tempted to throw my tongue down her throat right there. let's goooooo!

as soon as the taxi door closes, heavy make out session commenced. i'm so hot for this chica and i'm happy to have bagged my dimepiece. stats: 25 years old, honey light brown-skinned. 5'5, petite build, itty bitty titties but nice with big nips. and an incredible bubble butt ass with just enough hips. the ass on this chica has that great "cup" to it on top of being as smooth as silk. yeah, i basically devoured her that night and again in the morning. the sex ran the entire gamut from slow and sensual to animalistic carnage. i came so hard the first nut that i felt like i blinked out. i absolutely love it when my passion peaks with any woman and i'm suspended in time and space. this made my trip. *

i enjoyed her soo much that i repeated with her on saturday. yeah, i locked her down even before going out that night. saturday seemed to be lighter volume than friday, but make no mistake about it. there were more than enough tempting pieces circling around. they didn't even exist in my mind. i'm good.

we drank good that night and had a nightcap at the villa with a few of my boys and their chicas. i sensed some envy. i would have been jealous too! lol the one memory that will burn in my mind forever is with me laying naked in bed while she was in the shower. i had the ipod on deck emitting sweet melodies. the curtains to the sliding door are dancing in the wind and i'm staring up at the ceiling fan waiting on my treat. what a treat she was! it was better than the previous night. the morning was sex was all missionary. bodies closer than close. a rhythmic flow to glory. *

i wish i knew spanish better so i could explain what i felt for her. i was successful communicating my like and desire for her, but what she could understand she had the stance that it was all bullshit. honestly, in another time and place, i would love to make her mine. however, this is sosua. to protect myself, i did not go for night 3. it was last night in town.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Dick Hertz;1312745]There are thousands of law that this country has. If none of them are enforced who cares. It would be hard to find a jury to convict you.[/QUOTE]Few convictions from these federal statutes and more but enough to ruin a career!
[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1312622]I would want to see one case, where a US citizen was prosecuted and found guilty, for paying an adult prostitute for sex in a foreign country. Prostitution (in brothels) is legal in parts of Nevada, a state in the United States. Has anyone been prosecuted and found guilty for traveling to a brothel in Nevada? Or have any of the brothels in Nevada been charged and convicted, for enticing people from other states to visit them?[/QUOTE]

And a Marshal could arrest you at his pleasure after he finishes with the mexican drug dealer.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1312599]Where is that law? I think your living in a wet dream. Show that I am wrong otherwise sign up for the kidee board. Don't confuse traveling with the intent to have sex with minors with prostitutes.[/QUOTE]I have always thought your were an idiot and liar but you live to exceed expectations. I gave you the laws as well as a statement saying prosecutions were far and few between; however, if you want to keep up with the name calling I can assure you a good round of me discussing the finer point your ignorance.

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce;1312892]And a Marshal could arrest you at his pleasure after he finishes with the mexican drug dealer.[/QUOTE]I am still waiting for you to show me One case where a US citizen was arrested, tried and convicted, because he paid for sex with an Adult prostitute in a foreign country where prostitution is legal.

[quote=alex deuce;1312893]i have always thought your were an idiot and liar but you live to exceed expectations. i gave you the laws as well as a statement saying prosecutions were far and few between; however, if you want to keep up with the name calling i can assure you a good round of me discussing the finer point your ignorance.[/quote]here is the law and it looks as though your the liar. it is only illegal to travel to have sex with minors. the kiddee board is down the street head in that direction. go ahead with your attempted catching me in a lie .

citizen's guide to usa federal law on the extraterritorial sexual exploitation of children.

18 usac. § 2423 (the) : travel with intent to engage in illicit sexual conduct.

18 usac. § 2423 (see) : engaging in illicit sexual conduct in foreign places.

18 usac. § 2423 (the) : ancillary offenses.

18 usac. §§ 2251 (see) and 2260 (a) : production of child pornography outside the united states.

18 usac. § 1591: sex trafficking of children by force, fraud, or coercion.

18 usac. § 1596: additional jurisdiction in certain trafficking offenses.

federal law provides 'extraterritorial jurisdiction' over certain sex offenses against children. extraterritorial jurisdiction is the legal authority of the united states to prosecute criminal conduct that took place outside its borders.

section 2423 (see) of title 18, united states code, prohibits united states citizens or legal permanent residents from traveling from the united states to a foreign country, and while there, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] or sexually molesting a child or paying a child for sex. citizens can be punished under this law even if the conduct they engaged in was legal in the country where it occurred. for example, if an individual traveled to a country that had legalized prostitution, and while they were there they paid a child for sex, that individual could still be convicted under this statute. the penalty for this provision is up to 30 years in prison.

section 2423 (be) of title 18, united states code, is a similar provision. section 2423 (be) makes it a crime for united states citizens or legal permanent residents to travel from the united states to a foreign country with the intent to engage in illegal sexual conduct with a child such as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], molestation, or prostitution. the difference between section 2423 (be) and section 2423 (see) is that section 2423 (be) statute requires proof that the defendant had formed his criminal intent at the time he began to travel. the penalty for this offense is also up to 30 years in prison. finally, section 2423 (the) makes it a crime to be what is known informally as being a 'child sex tour operator. ' this statute makes it an offense to profit by facilitating the travel of usa citizens or legal permanent residents, knowing that they are traveling for the purpose of engaging in illegal sex with a minor. the penalty for this offense is up to 30 years in prison.

there are also some child pornography laws that apply to conduct overseas. sections 2251 (see) and 2260 (a) of title 18, united states code both make it a crime for anyone to produce child pornography in foreign countries if they import the child abuse images into the united states, or if they intend to do so. the penalty for a first time offender under these statutes is at least 15 years, up to a maximum of 30 years in prison.

finally. 18 usac. § 1596 grants extraterritorial jurisdiction over 18 usac. § 1591 (sex trafficking of children or by force, fraud, or coercion). in this instance, this means that federal prosecutors can investigate and prosecute foreign nationals who commit sex trafficking crimes against children outside the united states. section 1596 also allows the federal government to investigate and prosecute usa nationals and residents who commit child sex trafficking crimes in foreign countries (for more information on 18 usac. § 1591, see citizen's guide to usa federal law on the prostitution of children).

for all of these statutes, a child is considered to be anyone under the age of 18.

I am amazed at how much action there is here in the morning. I keep hearing that Sosua was dead early but that a lie. The difference is that instead of sitting around the bars like they do in the evening morning chicas walk. They will smile and wink or just say hola and that is all. Now it is up to you to must make the contact. The other way to tell is how they are dress. Just look for girl walking along the beach near the shop or by the bars who look like they would at night and make eye contact. I expected it be be dead Monday and Tueday but I was surprised at the quantity to choose from. Alot of good looker. Just be on the look out and you will see.

[quote=hillbilly69; 1312984]here is the law and it looks as though your the liar. it is only illegal to travel to have sex with minors. the kiddee board is down the street head in that direction. go ahead with your attempted catching me in a lie.

citizen's guide to usa federal law on the extraterritorial sexual exploitation of children.

18 usac. § 2423 (the) : travel with intent to engage in illicit sexual conduct.

18 usac. § 2423 (see) : engaging in illicit sexual conduct in foreign places.

18 usac. § 2423 (the) : ancillary offenses.

18 usac. §§ 2251 (see) and 2260 (a) : production of child pornography outside the united states.

18 usac. § 1591: sex trafficking of children by force, fraud, or coercion.

18 usac. § 1596: additional jurisdiction in certain trafficking offenses.

federal law provides 'extraterritorial jurisdiction' over certain sex offenses against children. extraterritorial jurisdiction is the legal authority of the united states to prosecute criminal conduct that took place outside its borders.

section 2423 (see) of title 18, united states code, prohibits united states citizens or legal permanent residents from traveling from the united states to a foreign country, and while there, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] or sexually molesting a child or paying a child for sex. citizens can be punished under this law even if the conduct they engaged in was legal in the country where it occurred. for example, if an individual traveled to a country that had legalized prostitution, and while they were there they paid a child for sex, that individual could still be convicted under this statute. the penalty for this provision is up to 30 years in prison.

section 2423 (be) of title 18, united states code, is a similar provision. section 2423 (be) makes it a crime for united states citizens or legal permanent residents to travel from the united states to a foreign country with the intent to engage in illegal sexual conduct with a child such as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], molestation, or prostitution. the difference between section 2423 (be) and section 2423 (see) is that section 2423 (be) statute requires proof that the defendant had formed his criminal intent at the time he began to travel. the penalty for this offense is also up to 30 years in prison. finally, section 2423 (the) makes it a crime to be what is known informally as being a 'child sex tour operator. ' this statute makes it an offense to profit by facilitating the travel of usa citizens or legal permanent residents, knowing that they are traveling for the purpose of engaging in illegal sex with a minor. the penalty for this offense is up to 30 years in prison.

there are also some child pornography laws that apply to conduct overseas. sections 2251 (see) and 2260 (a) of title 18, united states code both make it a crime for anyone to produce child pornography in foreign countries if they import the child abuse images into the united states, or if they intend to do so. the penalty for a first time offender under these statutes is at least 15 years, up to a maximum of 30 years in prison.

finally. 18 usac. § 1596 grants extraterritorial jurisdiction over 18 usac. § 1591 (sex trafficking of children or by force, fraud, or coercion). in this instance, this means that federal prosecutors can investigate and prosecute foreign nationals who commit sex trafficking crimes against children outside the united states. section 1596 also allows the federal government to investigate and prosecute usa nationals and residents who commit child sex trafficking crimes in foreign countries (for more information on 18 usac. § 1591, see citizen's guide to usa federal law on the prostitution of children).

for all of these statutes, a child is considered to be anyone under the age of 18.[/quote]please read the entirety of those statutes then look up use and interpetation / mis-interpetation of the travel-act provision most notablly "aid and abet a prostitute"

joa,

there have been at least 12 prosecutions using the "travel act" with only one conviction and none involved minors.

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce; 1313058]Please read the entirety of those statutes then look up Use and interpetation / Mis-interpetation of the Travel-Act Provision most notablly "aid and abet a prostitute"

Joa,

There have been at least 12 prosecutions using the "Travel Act" with only one conviction and none involved minors.[/QUOTE]Travel Act seems to be used for organized crime (drugs, gambling, etc). If you could, site me one case, where a US citizen tourist on vacation, in a foreign country, where prostitution is legal (Netherlands, Germany, England etc) who allegedly paid for sex with an adult prostitute and was thereafter arrested and convicted for that sole occurrence, with no other charges, thanks.

Please explain to me how, how the US government could arrest and convict a US citizen for doing something abroad, which that same person can do legally in the United States (in one of the 16 or more legal Nevada brothels).

O. Hillbilly you are a POS and need to stick to the child chasing board you want to put me in. Read the entirety of shit before you post. Laws are are increasing adds of provisions to go after the Johns cloaked as Child and Human Trafic protections.

[QUOTE=Dick Hertz;1312994]I am amazed at how much action there is here in the morning. I keep hearing that Sosua was dead early but that a lie. The difference is that instead of sitting around the bars like they do in the evening morning chicas walk. They will smile and wink or just say hola and that is all. Now it is up to you to must make the contact. The other way to tell is how they are dress. Just look for girl walking along the beach near the shop or by the bars who look like they would at night and make eye contact. I expected it be be dead Monday and Tueday but I was surprised at the quantity to choose from. Alot of good looker. Just be on the look out and you will see.[/QUOTE]I'm en route! Be there thur nite!

Man, all this legal talk is depressing as hell. I'm about to cancel all my flights and crawl in a corner and cry.

BTW, do you think this cutie is old enough to fuck?

[QUOTE=Dick Hertz;1312994]I am amazed at how much action there is here in the morning. I keep hearing that Sosua was dead early but that a lie. The difference is that instead of sitting around the bars like they do in the evening morning chicas walk. They will smile and wink or just say hola and that is all. Now it is up to you to must make the contact. The other way to tell is how they are dress. Just look for girl walking along the beach near the shop or by the bars who look like they would at night and make eye contact. I expected it be be dead Monday and Tueday but I was surprised at the quantity to choose from. Alot of good looker. Just be on the look out and you will see.[/QUOTE]Thats encouraging to say the least. The only bad thing is coming from the westcoast, It takes me 2 days to get used to the time difference. LOL. I always planned to get up early, eat breakfast then go on a hunt for daylight puta stroll. It never works out, I always seemed to sleep untill 1:00pm. Have you had a chance to hit After One disco? How is it? Crowded? I'm looking forward to my end of October trip. Also I have a question, sorry I got to lazy after R. T. FF, This is our first time renting a car.

My question is, can we rent a car at the Santiago airport, but return it at the Pop airport? We have to use our frequent flier miles into Santiago, but wanted to fly out of Pop. Sorry guys I didn't mean to interrupt you "Couch Perry Masons, Judge Judys and Judge Greg Mathis oh yeah shout out to judge Joe Brown. After faithfully watching these shows, I'm ready to take the BAR EXAM. LOL! This next trip got me more aware of crooked cops and chicas. I'm a little paranoid, but I think being aware of the potential problems, should be a good thing.

Man I must admit them young ass chicas are more aggressive then thier older counter parts.

[QUOTE=Dick Hertz;1312994]I am amazed at how much action there is here in the morning. I keep hearing that Sosua was dead early but that a lie. The difference is that instead of sitting around the bars like they do in the evening morning chicas walk. They will smile and wink or just say hola and that is all. Now it is up to you to must make the contact. The other way to tell is how they are dress. Just look for girl walking along the beach near the shop or by the bars who look like they would at night and make eye contact. I expected it be be dead Monday and Tueday but I was surprised at the quantity to choose from. Alot of good looker. Just be on the look out and you will see.[/QUOTE]Thats encouraging to say the least. The only bad thing is coming from the westcoast, It takes me 2 days to get used to the time difference. LOL. I always planned to get up early, eat breakfast then go on a hunt for daylight puta stroll. It never works out, I always seemed to sleep untill 1:00pm. Have you had a chance to hit After One disco? How is it? Crowded? I'm looking forward to my end of October trip. Also I have a question, sorry I got to lazy after R. T. FF, This is our first time renting a car.

My question is, can we rent a car at the Santiago airport, but return it at the Pop airport? We have to use our frequent flier miles into Santiago, but wanted to fly out of Pop. Sorry guys I didn't mean to interrupt you "Couch Perry Masons, Judge Judys and Judge Greg Mathis oh yeah shout out to judge Joe Brown. After faithfully watching these shows, I'm ready to take the BAR EXAM. LOL! This next trip got me more aware of crooked cops and chicas. I'm a little paranoid, but I think being aware of the potential problems, should be a good thing.

Man I must admit them young ass chicas are fine as hell and aggressive than thier older counter parts. I will keep on walking, I aint into "strawberry shortcake" chicas, I'm strictly into Adults Swim. Or ADULT ENTERTAINMENT. Hopefully ill have a lot of trip highlights to share with you guys."Return of the Chocolate jackhammer". Hey Tomjackin I hope to run into that crazy ass Patricia, If that ***** aint high on coke, laughing for no apparent reason, or talking to herself. LOL! Hopefully she leaves her BIG knife at home. I don't do stab wounds well. LOL!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1313176]Man, all this legal talk is depressing as hell. I'm about to cancel all my flights and crawl in a corner and cry.

BTW, do you think this cutie is old enough to fuck?[/QUOTE]That is Latina, and yes, she is old enough to fuck. In fact she is old enough to retire.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1313209]That is Latina, and yes, she is old enough to fuck. In fact she is old enough to retire.[/QUOTE]My deepest apologies Frannie, I will never post a picture of your girlfriend in this forum ever again! And I swear, I never fucked her!:D

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1313176]Man, all this legal talk is depressing as hell. I'm about to cancel all my flights and crawl in a corner and cry.[/QUOTE]

I still think it is child sex tourism that is illegal and not normal sex tourism but then again here is the page and not something my mama said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_tourism

Sex tourism is travel to engage in sexual activity with prostitutes. The World Tourism Organization, a specialized agency of the United Nations, defines sex tourism as "trips organized from within the tourism sector, or from outside this sector but using its structures and networks, with the primary purpose of effecting a commercial sexual relationship by the tourist with residents at the destination".[1]

Attractions for sex tourists can include reduced costs for services in the destination country, along with either legal prostitution or indifferent law enforcement, and access to child prostitution.
Contents

1 General
2 Destinations
3 Female sex tourism
4 Child sex tourism
5 Academic study
6 Opposition to sex tourism
7 Documentaries
8 Prostitution law across globe
9 See also
10 References

General

Generally, an adult can travel and engage in a sexual activity with an adult prostitute, in similar circumstances as would apply to local prostitution. However, when the sexual activity involves child prostitution, is non-consensual or involves sex trafficking, it is generally illegal, both in the participating country and sometimes in the individual's home country.

Sex tourism includes domestic sex tourism, which is travel within the same country, or international sex tourism, which involves travel across national borders. It is a multibillion dollar industry that supports an international workforce estimated to number in the millions.[2] Sex tourism benefits not only the sex industry but also the airline, taxi, restaurant and hotel industries.[3] Human Rights organizations warn that sex tourism contributes to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] and child prostitution.[4

Destinations

Several countries have become preferred destinations for sex tourists. These include Brazil,[5][6] Costa Rica,[7][8] Cuba,[9][10] the Dominican Republic,[11][12] Kenya,[13] the Netherlands, the Philippines, Colombia, and Thailand.[14]
Female sex tourism
Main article: Female sex tourism

Sex tourism by women also exists. The main destinations for female sex tourism are Brazil, Southern Europe (mainly Portugal, Greece, Turkey, Croatia, Montenegro and Spain), the Caribbean (led by Jamaica, Barbados and the Dominican Republic), parts of Africa (Tunisia, Egypt, Gambia, Kenya[15]) and parts of Asia (Indonesia,[16] Thailand). Other destinations include Morocco, El Salvador, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru and Fiji [17]
Child sex tourism
Main article: Child sex tourism

Child sex tourism is tourism to engage in sex with a child prostitute. It is a criminal (in most countries) multi-billion-dollar industry believed to involve as many as 2 million children around the world.[18] In an effort to eradicate the practice, many countries have enacted laws to allow prosecution of its citizens for child abuse that occurs outside their home country, even if it is not against the law in the country where the child abuse took place, for example, the US Protect Act.[19]

Some people travel to other countries to engage in sex with children. Child sex tourism has been closely linked to poverty.

Thailand, Cambodia, India, Brazil, Colombia and Mexico have been identified as countries where child sexual exploitation is prevalent.[20] In Thailand, though the exact numbers are not known, it has been estimated that children make up 40% of prostitutes in the country.[21] In Cambodia, it has been estimated that about a third of all prostitutes are under 18.[22][23] In India, the federal police say that around 1.2 million children are believed to be involved in prostitution.[24] Brazil is considered to have the worst child sex trafficking record, after Thailand.[25]

UNICEF notes that sexual activity is often seen as a private matter, making communities reluctant to act and intervene in cases of sexual exploitation.[26] These attitudes make children far more vulnerable to sexual exploitation. Most exploitation of children takes place as a result of their absorption into the adult sex trade where they are exploited by local people and sex tourists.[26] The Internet provides an efficient global networking tool for individuals to share information on destinations and procurement.[26]

In cases involving children, the U.S. has relatively strict domestic laws that hold accountable any American citizen or permanent resident of the U.S. who travels abroad for the purpose of engaging in illicit conduct with a minor.[26] However, child pornography, sex tourism and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] remain fast-growing industries.[26] Rep. Chris Smith, R-NJ recently introduced H.R. 1623, the "International Megan's Law". Similar to the domestic Megan's Law, which provides for community notification when a sex offender is living in the area, H.R. 1623 would alert officials abroad when U.S. sex offenders intend to travel, and likewise encourage other countries to keep sex offender lists and to notify the U.S. when a known sex offender may be coming to the United States for sex tourism.[26]

[QUOTE=Frannie;1313209]That is Latina, and yes, she is old enough to fuck. In fact she is old enough to retire.[/QUOTE]That's pretty funny. When I saw the old Haitian (Sealy) in this video, I thought the same thing, LOL [url]http://youtu.be/66IBrAE9Pgs[/url]

DeepMmpactt: I have no idea about car rentals but try using you frequent flyer miles to leave POP and save alot of money. Also you may want to try the bus to Sosua from Santaigo which other people can tell you about because I have never did it. I can tell you that the chicas will be still walking around after you wake up. Just remember they are on the move so you my not want to sit and look for them. They walk down Pedro Clisant from pass Hotel Europa to Duarte road. Now sometime they go to the beach walking along the path where the shops are or they might turn at Duarte and walk along that road. When you see them they will smile and speak and keep walking unless you speak to them. The good thing is all of the walking keep them fit so you have alot of good choices. So I hope this help and have fun.

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce;1313105]O. Hillbilly you are a POS and need to stick to the child chasing board you want to put me in. Read the entirety of shit before you post. Laws are are increasing adds of provisions to go after the Johns cloaked as Child and Human Trafic protections.[/QUOTE]I think you should just turn yourself in.

For everyone else here is the law dumbed down and it is legal to travel for sex tourism despite Batman's other ideas.

Sex tourism and the law, what are your thoughts?

While doing some research on behalf of this question:

[url]http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index[/url]; .

I came across a remarkable law. Title 18, Part I, Chapter 117, Section 2423, Subsection C of US federal law states:

" (see) Engaging in Illicit Sexual Conduct in Foreign Places. — Any United States citizen or alien admitted for permanent residence who travels in foreign commerce, and engages in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both."

It sounds like a decent law, right? The problem is that "illicit sexual conduct" is not referring the definitions at the place of travel, but rather as it's defined in US federal law:

(f) Definition. — As used in this section, the term 'illicit sexual conduct' means.

" (1) a sexual act (as defined in section 2246) with a person under 18 years of age that would be in violation of chapter 109A if the sexual act occurred in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States; or.

(2) any commercial sex act (as defined in section 1591) with a person under 18 years of age."

In other words, if you are a US citizen traveling abroad you can be prosecuted upon returning to the US for purchasing sexual services of someone under the age 18 in another country, REGARDLESS if such behavior is legal at the place of travel.

Is this not blatant disrespect for the laws of other countries? What gives the US, and other countries with similar laws, the authority to extend their jurisdiction worldwide?

2 years ago

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1313193]This is our first time renting a car. My question is, can we rent a car at the Santiago airport, but return it at the Pop airport?[/QUOTE]My first time driving in the DR was not planned. I was supposed to fly into POP (Puerto Plata) , but American Airlines wouldn't hold a 40 seat turbo prop airplane an extra 15 minutes in san juan, puerto rico, for a late arriving airplane from Newark Airport. So my connection to Puerto Plata was gone when I got off the airplane from Newark at San Juan, Puerto Rico. American Airlines put me on an airplane from San Juan, Puerto Rico to Santo Domingo later that day. I arrived into Santo Domingo around 4pm that day and decided to rent a car and drive to Sosua (I had never been in Santo Domingo before and never driven in the DR before). I rented with Avis, a small Mitsubishi 4 door car. It would be a one way rental, returning the car to POP airport. Only map was a very simple thing given out by Avis. First time driving in DR, no sleep in 24 hours and I drove into santo domingo during rush hour, around Christmas time, about ten years ago, my Spanish was not good. Got lost numerous times, people were nice offering directions, I didn't understand much of what they were saying. Driving at nighttime, I finally arrived into Sosua, that night, around midnight.

Nowadays, there is google maps (you can easily study the routes before your trip) and you can get information from guys on this site. Hertz offers casa de conductors insurance (ISG member Helpmann dislikes Hertz in the DR. Hertz doesn't give the prices of various insurance online, they tell you to get those prices at the counter). Avis I used my first three times renting in the DR and those three times they tried to overcharge me, a woman at Avis in the US, named MS. Jackson, straightened out the overcharges, but after three times getting overcharged, I gave up on Avis in the DR. Since then I have rented from Alamo / National. Viviana at the Alamo / National counter at the Puerto Plata airport, I dealt with numerous times. My MasterCard credit card provides some insurance coverage (I decline Alamo / National's insurance that costs $19. 95US per day, I choose the third party liability insurance for around $9US per day and the glass / tire insurance for around $4US per day. I use a coupon code from BJs warehouse store travel site to save about $50US on a weekly rental with alamo / national. The reserved price that appears online with the two insurance options in the rate, is the rate that gets charged to my credit card (there will be a $1000US hold placed on your credit at the time of rental, that stays for about the first 4 days, if you rent from alamo / national).

Chevy Aveo at national / alamo I have had several problems with that car in DR and won't rent it again. The tiny Chevy Spark (I believe made in Korea or China) is a good little car. The Nissan Tilda is usually just a bit more than the price for the Aveo, the Nissan Tilda is a good car (similar to the Nissan Versa here in the states). Next in size is the nissan sentra, which I rented one time when I traveled with three other guys, it was a tight fit for 4 guys with luggage. With Alamo / National make the reservations online at least 24 hours before arrival, you choose which Alamo location (airport or city) you want to receive the car and where you want to drop the car off. I have read on this site that Alamo / National is open 24 hours at the STI airport (I know they are open 24/7 at the SDQ airport).

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1313449]I think you should just turn yourself in.

For everyone else here is the law dumbed down and it is legal to travel for sex tourism despite Batman's other ideas.

Sex tourism and the law, what are your thoughts?

While doing some research on behalf of this question:

[url]http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index[/url]

; .

I came across a remarkable law. Title 18, Part I, Chapter 117, Section 2423, Subsection C of US federal law states:

" (see) Engaging in Illicit Sexual Conduct in Foreign Places. — Any United States citizen or alien admitted for permanent residence who travels in foreign commerce, and engages in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both."

It sounds like a decent law, right? The problem is that "illicit sexual conduct" is not referring the definitions at the place of travel, but rather as it's defined in US federal law:

(f) Definition. — As used in this section, the term 'illicit sexual conduct' means.

" (1) a sexual act (as defined in section 2246) with a person under 18 years of age that would be in violation of chapter 109A if the sexual act occurred in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States; or.

(2) any commercial sex act (as defined in section 1591) with a person under 18 years of age."

In other words, if you are a US citizen traveling abroad you can be prosecuted upon returning to the US for purchasing sexual services of someone under the age 18 in another country, REGARDLESS if such behavior is legal at the place of travel.

Is this not blatant disrespect for the laws of other countries? What gives the US, and other countries with similar laws, the authority to extend their jurisdiction worldwide?

2 years ago[/QUOTE]Naw! The more you post illustrates my point that there are a variety of BS laws that they may charge you with upon entry. As explained to me by someone that knows a whole lot more than you.

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1313193]My question is, can we rent a car at the Santiago airport, but return it at the Pop airport?[/QUOTE]I did just that at last trip 2 weeks ago. No problem. Paid a $30 fee to Alamo to return the car to POP. Budget had quoted me a higher fee for the change ($80?)

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1313193]This next trip got me more aware of crooked cops and chicas. I'm a little paranoid, but I think being aware of the potential problems, should be a good thing.[/QUOTE]Be cautious, of course. This is a foreign and poor country. But for the record, I never had a single problem, in spite of hanging out in countless local neighborhood of Puerto Plata and smaller towns along the coast, deep at night, having made a few chicas upset, and given a few 100 pesos bills to smooth things out. Not that I would recommend doing any of these. Just for the record.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1312017]Do you think the 17 year old was a set up with the police?.[/QUOTE]No, I don't. I do not believe Pamela is the kind of person who would set me up for blackmail. But of course, I was not going to take any chance.

I went to talk to a Politur officer the day after. One that was standing next to the German bar. I avoided going into specifics, but he did confirm that Politur may be making such calls to a relative or friend.

I also asked to a Chica I knew spent a couple of nights in jail and shared a few horror stories with me before. She also confirmed the story is plausible. Although I may indeed have been expected to pay a bribe to take Pamela out.

[disclamer: this is a factual report and my take on it. I am a newbie. For advices, you are better off asking senior members, like I did. And for the record, I felt really awful having abandoned Pamela at the hands of Politur that night]

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1313193]Hey Tomjackin I hope to run into that crazy ass Patricia, If that ***** aint high on coke, laughing for no apparent reason, or talking to herself. LOL! Hopefully she leaves her BIG knife at home. I don't do stab wounds well. LOL![/QUOTE]When I saw Patricia in April, I did a quick purse inspection in the club, and for whatever reason, she wasn't carrying a blade. I looked her dead in the eye and asked,"OK babe, where are you hiding the blade?" She just smiled and replied,"Yo no se." She was only in town for one night, and I already had a girl from Santo Domingo in my room. Patricia wanted me to come to her room, but I could only guesstimate all the cutlery that would be available if our session went afoul!

The crazy bit@h Is at the top of my list my next trip!

WESTSIDE!

What is the differnce between Passion and CMP? Is there late night take-out at CMP. Are the prices the same and who has better quality girls?

[QUOTE=Dick Hertz;1313566]What is the differnce between Passion and CMP? Is there late night take-out at CMP. Are the prices the same and who has better quality girls?[/QUOTE]Both places have menus and take out available. From what I've seen, Passion girls are better quality and there is more to chose from. But having said that, I always had more fun at CMP because you can sit around with the girls and let your fingers wonder into deep areas. I'm been with 2 of the CMP girls, both were a blast. Fireball was my last girl there and she was a pistol and spent her night off with me. I did not go in either place last April, so maybe someone that has been to both recently will chime in.

Passions has a very good history for its customer service. The owners really stand behind their product and the girls know it. If you have problem at passions it is handled.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1313581]Both places have menus and take out available. From what I've seen, Passion girls are better quality and there is more to chose from. But having said that, I always had more fun at CMP because you can sit around with the girls and let your fingers wonder into deep areas. I'm been with 2 of the CMP girls, both were a blast. Fireball was my last girl there and she was a pistol and spent her night off with me. I did not go in either place last April, so maybe someone that has been to both recently will chime in.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1313547]When I saw Patricia in April, I did a quick purse inspection in the club, and for whatever reason, she wasn't carrying a blade. I looked her dead in the eye and asked,"OK babe, where are you hiding the blade?" She just smiled and replied,"Yo no se." She was only in town for one night, and I already had a girl from Santo Domingo in my room. Patricia wanted me to come to her room, but I could only guesstimate all the cutlery that would be available if our session went afoul!

The crazy bit@h Is at the top of my list my next trip!

WESTSIDE![/QUOTE]Yeah Tomjackin, make sure she's STRIP SEARCHED, for sharp objects. You know I'm fulla shit that bit@ch Patricia me terrifies my a$$. But one day when I'm (Drunk). I'm going to SMASH HER A$$, Oh Damn. I don't drink. I guess It aint happening. I guess one good thing, she's OF AGE. LOL. Man Tomjackin if she's wearing some OPEN TOED STILLETTOES, my black ass is toast, you know my (WIERD ASS foot fetish) , is my kryp-TOE-nite). Renders me weak and helpless.

I also want to declare" peace and truces"between Hillbilly and Alex Duece, both of you fellas made excellent points. We can all AGREE, leave them young ASS chicas ALONE. I think Sammy Sosa took a risk, playing pied piper with them young ass chicas. LOL. I also think theres plenty of GROWN UP CHICAS OF AGE, We can get our rocks off with. I can't wait to get out of sex prison, well I do have a booty call lady friend. I guess I'm in a Sex Halfway house. LOL! I don't get it no where near enough. Big Ups to my man BBQ RIBS, them were some amazing pictures! Westsideee. AllDay EVERYDAY. Peace to Coolie high, Savepro, Jaososua, Manizales Drai. And the rest of yall!

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce;1313482]Naw! The more you post illustrates my point that there are a variety of BS laws that they may charge you with upon entry. As explained to me by someone that knows a whole lot more than you.[/QUOTE]When you and your boyfriend want to put your money where your mouth is about your imaginary Sex Tourist Law please let me know, there is several attorneys on this site that can provide escrow services.

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1313637]I also want to declare" peace and truces"between Hillbilly and Alex Duece, both of you fellas made excellent points. We can all AGREE, leave them young ASS chicas ALONE. I think Sammy Sosa took a risk, playing pied piper with them young ass chicas. LOL. I also think theres plenty of GROWN UP CHICAS OF AGE, We can get our rocks off with. I can't wait to get out of sex prison, well I do have a booty call lady friend. I guess I'm in a Sex Halfway house. LOL! I don't get it no where near enough. Big Ups to my man BBQ RIBS, them were some amazing pictures! Westsideee. AllDay EVERYDAY. Peace to Coolie high, Savepro, Jaososua, Manizales Drai. And the rest of yall![/QUOTE]Thanks for the post Deep, so much for trying to keep the peace!

Boots on the ground, and it is back to the crackdown! New police chief flexing his dumb ass muscles and arresting every damn body. However, there is still plenty of pussy to go around, but a lot less than before!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1313993]Boots on the ground, and it is back to the crackdown! New police chief flexing his dumb ass muscles and arresting every damn body.[/QUOTE]I'm waiting for the part where you comeback and say "ha, just fucking with y'all, LOL!" (?) (:()

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1314085]I'm waiting for the part where you comeback and say "ha, just fucking with y'all, LOL!" (?) (:()[/QUOTE]Don't hold your breath; I watch the girls scramble while hanging at Rumba, which seems to be the only place with business. Merengue had 6-8 chicas between 10-12. The old Latino, now (what ever the new name is) , disco at 2 had 6 chicas. The after One club now opens at 4.

This was on Friday night!

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1313927]When you and your boyfriend want to put your money where your mouth is about your imaginary Sex Tourist Law please let me know, there is several attorneys on this site that can provide escrow services.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure your an idiot but I'm pretty sure you just as ignorant.

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce;1314132]Pretty sure your an idiot but I'm pretty sure you just as ignorant.[/QUOTE]Next time some dumb ass feeds you full of bullshit sitting in a beach chair in Sosua don't bother posting his information, it is common sense for most people.

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1313637](foot fetish) , is my kryp-TOE-nite.[/QUOTE]Butterfly Fitness, pole dancing classes, Distrito Nacional, Road (photos from bufeo).

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1314139]Next time some dumb ass feeds you full of bullshit sitting in a beach chair in Sosua don't bother posting his information, it is common sense for most people.[/QUOTE]Yep! Tell ya what, At next entry of customs state: "I'm going to visit the Brothels and fuck bitches" as purpose of your trip.

[QUOTE=Dick Hertz;1313566]What is the differnce between Passion and CMP? Is there late night take-out at CMP. Are the prices the same and who has better quality girls?[/QUOTE]Just take a look at both, its free entrance. And you'll see in 3 sec the difference in quality.

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce;1314216]Yep! Tell ya what, At next entry of customs state: "I'm going to visit the Brothels and fuck bitches" as purpose of your trip.[/QUOTE]Why don't the two of you put each other on ignore so the rest of us do not have read this horseshit, it really gets old after a while and does not enhance this board.

Buscemi

[quote=alex deuce;1314216]yep! tell ya what, at next entry of customs state: "i'm going to visit the brothels and fuck bitches" as purpose of your trip.[/quote]come on dude, there's no such thing as a conspiracy or intent to monger law. the us has had laws on the books to prevent ****s from traveling to other countries to take advantage of poor minors. as an american you shouldn't be dealing with anyone under 18 period no matter the circumstance.

mongering is either legal or falls into the quasi-legal territory (in most countries) where it is tolerated as long the girl is over 18 and the local politicos get their payoffs. crackdowns usually occur when gringos wear out their welcome, someone misses a payoff or an investor with deep pockets and connections starts pressing the issue. it is happening in rio and eventually may occur in sosua.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1313993]Thanks for the post Deep, so much for trying to keep the peace!

Boots on the ground, and it is back to the crackdown! New police chief flexing his dumb ass muscles and arresting every damn body. However, there is still plenty of pussy to go around, but a lot less than before![/QUOTE]Damn, These crackdown, got me. Cracking up. Tom is it bad like before, I guess I'm going to have to go into my black book of putas. Hey Hillbilly69, your Pm box is full, and its not taking any messages! I thankyou for the great advice on hitching a possible ride into Sosua from Santiago. Yo Tom you better have a cut proof suit on if you're planning on seeing that crazy bit@h, Patricia. Don't forget to Pm me her number. I also remembered Savepros advice on leaving, Patricia crazy a$$, alone, but brothas are hard headed. LOL!

I am looking forward to my trip in October, any other monger in the area of New Gardens in October 24th thru 31st, give me a shout out. The Chocolate Chocolate Jack hammer, making my return to hammer the shit out of them putas. Yall take care.

Peace!

[QUOTE=Carrib;1314221]eventually may occur in Sosua.[/QUOTE]Do you have any idea of what could be holding up a cleanup of Sosua?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1314225]Do you have any idea of what could be holding up a cleanup of Sosua?[/QUOTE]The current administration is tied into at least one bar under construction.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1314225]Do you have any idea of what could be holding up a cleanup of Sosua?[/QUOTE]Lack of willing investors, local biz owners having decent connections and paying "taxes", to name a few

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1314225]Do you have any idea of what could be holding up a cleanup of Sosua?[/QUOTE]What, do you have some property you are waiting to purchase there or something, LOL?

[QUOTE=Carrib;1314221]Crackdowns usually occur when gringos wear out their welcome, someone misses a payoff or an investor with deep pockets and connections starts pressing the issue. It is happening in Rio and eventually may occur in Sosua.[/QUOTE]In case you guys missed it (recent as of last night; posted today):

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1313993]Boots on the ground, and it is back to the crackdown! New police chief flexing his dumb ass muscles and arresting every damn body. However, there is still plenty of pussy to go around, but a lot less than before![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1314119]I watch the girls scramble while hanging at Rumba, which seems to be the only place with business. Merengue had 6-8 chicas between 10-12. The old Latino, now (what ever the new name is) , disco at 2 had 6 chicas. The after One club now opens at 4.

This was on Friday night![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1314229]What, do you have some property you are waiting to purchase there or something, LOL?[/QUOTE]That's a consideration.

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce;1314216]Yep! Tell ya what, At next entry of customs state: "I'm going to visit the Brothels and fuck bitches" as purpose of your trip.[/QUOTE]If you read my post a couple of pages back you will see that I told him just that and he said okay go ahead.

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1314219]Why don't the two of you put each other on ignore so the rest of us do not have read this horseshit, it really gets old after a while and does not enhance this board.

Buscemi[/QUOTE]My last trip to sosua when I get back 2 the state I got stop by cbp officers they start asking me mad question like where do I work, how much money I make, why I go to dr 3 times and less then 4 month, why I always spent only a weekend when they ask me what's. The purpose of my trip I told them straight up " I just go 2 have some fun because dr is pussy paradise " after they surch me and my bag they let me go.

[QUOTE=Sammy Sosa;1313487]I never had a single problem, in spite of . having made a few chicas upset, and given a few 100 pesos bills to smooth things out. Not that I would recommend doing any of these. Just for the record.[/QUOTE]It would be pretty interesting and enlightening to know what you did that required smoothing over!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1313547]When I saw Patricia in April, I did a quick purse inspection in the club, and for whatever reason, she wasn't carrying a blade. I looked her dead in the eye and asked,"OK babe, where are you hiding the blade?" She just smiled and replied,"Yo no se." She was only in town for one night, and I already had a girl from Santo Domingo in my room. Patricia wanted me to come to her room, but I could only guesstimate all the cutlery that would be available if our session went afoul!

The crazy bit@h Is at the top of my list my next trip!

WESTSIDE![/QUOTE]Man I don't know why all you guys are scared of Patricia. I agree she is a crazy Chica, but she is cool if you know how to deal with her. I first met Patricia in Feb. 2009. She approached me in After One and when got together a few times during my trip. I first noticed something wasn't right with her when I was nearing the end of my stay. One evening when I was on my way back to the Casa Valeria where I was staying, she rolled up on me in the middle of the street at the strip and Rosen and pretty much begged me to see her. Earlier I saw her and told her that I was seeing another Chica that night, so when I responded and told her no that I had plans, she dropped to her knees in the middle of the side walk and begged me. I felt quite embarrassed and tried to walk away but she followed me up the street and it took the girls that work in Casa Valeria's restaurant, to speak to her and calm her down. In my mind I was through with her because that caused tooo much drama and I don't come to Sosua for drama. When I came back about five months later I saw her and she apologized for the way she acted and said that at the time that she was doing coke very heavily, so she offered for me to come to where she was staying to chill-out with her but I declined. So when I saw her again while on that trip, she actually spent the night with me at no cost. Ever since then she will recommend Chica's to me that she says are ok and I've found her to be truthful. So I haven't had anymore bad expierences with her since 2009.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1313581]Both places have menus and take out available. From what I've seen, Passion girls are better quality and there is more to chose from. But having said that, I always had more fun at CMP because you can sit around with the girls and let your fingers wonder into deep areas. I'm been with 2 of the CMP girls, both were a blast. Fireball was my last girl there and she was a pistol and spent her night off with me. I did not go in either place last April, so maybe someone that has been to both recently will chime in.[/QUOTE]I read somewhere on the Internet that a new strip club next door to CMP was being built in 2011.

Does anyone have any info on this?

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1314219]Why don't the two of you put each other on ignore so the rest of us do not have read this horseshit, it really gets old after a while and does not enhance this board.

Buscemi[/QUOTE]Buscemi, I couldn't AGREE with you more. I'm surprise Mr Jackson let this BULLSHIT go on for this long. Alex Duece Hillbilly69. REALLY. Honestly don't you fellas agree, this bitchin back and forth, is a COMPLETE WASTE OF BANDWIDTH. (Believe me, take it from The Bandwidth King of Waste!) Tell you brothers what? Why don't you guys Pm eachother, call it Pm ing Jujitsu. But keep it confined in the (PM CAGE) between you guys.

I like you both, but brothers please this 3rd grade back and forth 'my di@k Is BIGGER than your di@k, needs to stop. I consider both you guys an asset to this board with your informative post but 'shut this shit DOWN NOW. My two brothers. I pledge to unleash the Chocolate Jackhammer on them putas, and bring back 'crime scene photos, of all the wreckage. (probaly the only wreck will probaly be my punk a$$). LOL.

My plane is touching down in Santo Domingo tomorrow. I'll be in the DR for a week and plan on visiting Sosua as well while I'm there (been to Sosua twice before). Anyone whose familiar with both cities please answer these questions for me:

1. Is there more to do in SD on the weekend or during weekdays? (monger and non-monger activities)

2. Is there more to do in Sosua on the weekend or during weekdays? (mongering only)

3. Given my circumstances, which city would you visit on the weekend and which during the weekdays?

I submitted a similar post on the SD board but figured I'd put it up here too to give the Sosua board members to put in their two cents. Thanks for all the forthcoming advice.

Last night me, Tomjackin, and Gogo were at Los Toros bar (old Latinos) having some drinks and a Dominicana came up with a young Italian girl. I got on the Italian girl and all seemed well. Then it turned cold. The Dominicana explained to me that the Italiana likes sanky panky, but she tries to tell her that she needs to give some of the other guys a try. Tomjackin was out of there with a 1500 peso Haitiana before a 100 peso bill could fall to the ground. Me and Gogo decided to head up to Clasico.

There were maybe 2 girls at the Merengue bar and I think both of them were bartenders. This gave me doubts about going into Clasico. I asked the guy at the ticket window where all the girls were and he said inside. We went up and inside and lo and behold it looked like Hookerfest '12. There were wall to wall women in that club. There were so many women that as soon as we walked in I lost sight of Gogo and could not find him for the rest of the time I was in there. I got my free drink, Brugal on ice, and walked around. I was snatched up by an old flame who insisted on coming with me, but I told her I was looking for my friend. I walked outside and that is when I got a text from Gogo saying he had hooked up with an old flame and was taking it in.

As I walked down the stairs about to go find a chick who I was talking to earlier, another girl was walking up the stairs. I told her I would give her 1000 for TLN. She countered with 1500. I told her that I was not rich. She continued up the steps and I called her back. I prodded her for the 1000 once again and she agreed. We went to the hotel and proceeded with round 1. Soon after I attempted to go for a second round but she started complaining. She said I was only giving her 1000 pesos yet I wanted to do so much fucking. I said well shit you can leave if you want to. It was about 5am then and my girl from Santiago was due to arrive at 9am so it was actually working out perfect. She got up and got dressed and I went into the safe and pulled out 1000 pesos for her. She blurted choice words at me as she walked out the door; something to the tune of cheap mf or whatnot.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1314708]I told her I would give her 1000 for TLN. She countered with 1500. I told her that I was not rich. She continued up the steps and I called her back. I prodded her for the 1000 once again and she agreed.[/QUOTE]Sounds good. No need to pay more than you want to, especially if it is a buyer's market.

There were so many fine chicas at the beach today. I was wishing so badly that I would have been alone. At Big D's there were 2 who were just smoking. I think they were friends or relatives of the lady who works there. So me and my girl from Santiago were finishing up eating at Big D's when some of those guys with guitars were passing by. She quickly turned her head toward me hiding and said that one of those guys is her husband's friend. I was saying my goodbyes telling her how much I wished she could stay. She thought about it and said that she could stay but would have to leave by 7am to make it back to Santiago in time for work. Oh shit. If she stays there goes my opportunity for another chica tonight. I quickly told her it was not a good idea and she should probably be getting back home in case her husband's friend saw her. She told me that she didn't want me fucking the girls in Sosua, but if I did to wear a condom. I agreed.

I walked her up to the corner of the main highway across from Playero. She asked about taking the guagua down to Caribe Tours. I told her that actually we could walk over to Metro next to the Texaco station. As we got closer I could see a bus already there. When we got to the office they said the bus was ready to leave. She boarded the bus and I started down Dr. Rosen. I caught up with 2 chicas as I approached the corner of Pedro Clisante. They started asking me about happy hour. I told them that every hour is happy for me. I asked them what they had to offer. One said these big ass titties. I asked the other what she had to offer. She had to think about it. Just then I saw the bus that my Santiago girl was on backing onto the main highway. I didn't know where she was sitting but knew I didn't want her to see me talking to those freaks. So I quickly bid them adieu and started walking away briskly.

As I passed in front of the bank there were two more chicas who asked me about happy hour. They said that for any other guy it was be 4000, but for me only 3000. I told them my usual line of me not being rich and they dropped to 2500. Then to 2000 (1000 each). That was a damn good deal, but I had already called my girl in Puerto Plata who was supposed to arrive at 8 but has since changed to 9 because of car trouble.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1314724]She told me that she didn't want me fucking the girls in Sosua, but if I did to wear a condom. I agreed.[/QUOTE]Does she think you would bareback a hoe in Sosua? Hmm

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1314708]Last night me, Tomjackin, and Gogo were at Los Toros bar (old Latinos) having some drinks and a Dominicana came up with a young Italian girl. I got on the Italian girl and all seemed well. Then it turned cold. The Dominicana explained to me that the Italiana likes sanky panky, but she tries to tell her that she needs to give some of the other guys a try. Tomjackin was out of there with a 1500 peso Haitiana before a 100 peso bill could fall to the ground. Me and Gogo decided to head up to Clasico.[/QUOTE]Wait a god damn minute, she was fucking hot and I did not take a long ass nap as you did!

To be honest, I thought the three of us in the same town that the place would collapse! Didn't seem to happen, but we still have time!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1314760]Wait a god damn minute, she was fucking hot and I did not take a long ass nap as you did!

To be honest, I thought the three of us in the same town that the place would collapse! Didn't seem to happen, but we still have time![/QUOTE]YEAH BUDDY! I see the OG's forming Voltron down in the SU. This going to be some great reports coming. BTW make sure yaw all have a sambuca shot for Ol' Coolie LOL

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1314724]There were so many fine chicas at the beach today. I was wishing so badly that I would have been alone. At Big D's there were 2 who were just smoking. I think they were friends or relatives of the lady who works there. So me and my girl from Santiago were finishing up eating at Big D's when some of those guys with guitars were passing by. She quickly turned her head toward me hiding and said that one of those guys is her husband's friend. I was saying my goodbyes telling her how much I wished she could stay. She thought about it and said that she could stay but would have to leave by 7am to make it back to Santiago in time for work. Oh shit. If she stays there goes my opportunity for another chica tonight. I quickly told her it was not a good idea and she should probably be getting back home in case her husband's friend saw her. She told me that she didn't want me fucking the girls in Sosua, but if I did to wear a condom. I agreed.

I walked her up to the corner of the main highway across from Playero. She asked about taking the guagua down to Caribe Tours. I told her that actually we could walk over to Metro next to the Texaco station. As we got closer I could see a bus already there. When we got to the office they said the bus was ready to leave. She boarded the bus and I started down Dr. Rosen. I caught up with 2 chicas as I approached the corner of Pedro Clisante. They started asking me about happy hour. I told them that every hour is happy for me. I asked them what they had to offer. One said these big ass titties. I asked the other what she had to offer. She had to think about it. Just then I saw the bus that my Santiago girl was on backing onto the main highway. I didn't know where she was sitting but knew I didn't want her to see me talking to those freaks. So I quickly bid them adieu and started walking away briskly.

As I passed in front of the bank there were two more chicas who asked me about happy hour. They said that for any other guy it was be 4000, but for me only 3000. I told them my usual line of me not being rich and they dropped to 2500. Then to 2000 (1000 each). That was a damn good deal, but I had already called my girl in Puerto Plata who was supposed to arrive at 8 but has since changed to 9 because of car trouble.[/QUOTE]I've been to the north coast a couple of time in the last few years, but I'm addicted to the Paisas of Medellin. Reading your post rekindled many pleasant memories of my time there. Thanks for taking the time for sharing your experiences. Makes me want to return there.

Only good energy!

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1314792]I've been to the north coast a couple of time in the last few years, but I'm addicted to the Paisas of Medellin. Reading your post rekindled many pleasant memories of my time there. Thanks for taking the time for sharing your experiences. Makes me want to return there.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]I recommend you go and see for yourself what a great time you can still have in Sosua. So many options both during the day and at night.

In the daylight hours you have the Haitian suck shacks in the general area of the Banco Popular, you can wander further and just about any salon (and there are many) offer a massage option (usually with extras) , you can just walk Pedro Clisante towards Passions and you will encounter many girls walking around town, catch their eye and smile and chances are they will stop and can go from there. The beach is also a great way to either find chicas or sit down at one of the popular gringo bars and most will have guys who can point out which chicas give the best experience.

At night the opportunities are everywhere. Things get busy at 5 o clock in Rumba Bar, with many chicas sitting around and as the night gets going the chicas are in every bar.

I was there in June for three weeks and Sosua is far from dead. I actually prefer the week nights when the weekend warriors have gone home and the next batch have not yet arrived. Sosua is what you make it, I cannot wait to get back there for my next five week trip in December

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1314792]I've been to the north coast a couple of time in the last few years, but I'm addicted to the Paisas of Medellin. Reading your post rekindled many pleasant memories of my time there. Thanks for taking the time for sharing your experiences. Makes me want to return there.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]I'm thinking about doing the switcheroo with you. My last 3 vacations ended with me in SDQ twice, and Sosua 3 times.

I have to stick to my guns and make it somewhere new. Medellin is looking to be on the top of my list. I'll skip Cartagena especially due to the Secret Service incident there.

My only other choices are, or were Curacao, but I heard it's boring except for the place to get chicas. Managua in Nicaragua, seems cheap and safe, but not too much else to do.

Panama City Panama, seems OK< and I can say I saw the Panama Canal, but the chicas at the hotel I was planning on want a lot of money for the short and crappy service they give.

Now I need to go to the other boards and find out what hotel to stay in Medellin. We can do some info swapping.

[QUOTE=Henry R; 1314325]I read somewhere on the Internet that a new strip club next door to CMP was being built in 2011.

Does anyone have any info on this?[/QUOTE]It was called banana pepe, and got shut down after only being open for a short while.

Just returned on Saturday stayed 3 days at Blackbeards and seven days at Mary Rose. Okay this is just my personal opinion, I have to say that because I know how some of you guys get down. Blackbeards didn't live up to my expectations it was my first time and probably my last time, it's okay for a day visit or an overnight stay no more. The girls were ok but not what I'm used to but 6s some 7s. Some of them were just interested in getting me to climax as fast as possible with no clue of how to really fuck. Bang Bang Bang wash wash rinse change condom repeat. A couple of the guys had complaints because the girls didn't want to do what they agreed to do and the Mamason was really no help. My Best session was two girls I Brought in from Field of dreams for 3000 pesos for all night Rossy & another real slim the chick. The next day all the girls knew about it, hey they talk about everything I mean everything, who's clean who's very dirty who can fuck Who takes a while to climax, who's a quick draw, it's funny because I had to stop this girl from given me this unsolicited information By putting my dick in her mouth, I told her I really don't care. In a nutshell Blackbeards seem to be a place for older guys, guys on the little strange side (and they were there) & guys that want or need everything laid out. Will continue my post or opinion about Blackbeards & Mary Rose condominiums in Part 2 & try to upload some pics.

[QUOTE=Coolie High;1314782]YEAH BUDDY! I see the OG's forming Voltron down in the SU. This going to be some great reports coming. BTW make sure yaw all have a sambuca shot for Ol' Coolie LOL[/QUOTE]I was at OUR restaurant last night with a fine ass chica, but for some reason I forgot about the sambuca, go figure!

[QUOTE=Beerdrinker;1314823]It was called banana pepe, and got shut down after only being open for a short while.[/QUOTE]RI fucking P that place; it sucked!

[QUOTE=Levan01;1314923]. guys on the little strange side.[/QUOTE]My definition of strange is staying at Blackbeards and taking in girls from Field of Dreams.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1307819]Just read this on another board. Posted today by a well-known and generally well-liked ex-pat businessman in Sosua.

[i]Today, I was arrested for apparently not paying my bar bill. I was there with 3 other people to show them what CMP was all about. Two of them are still here and one was available and came with me to tell the fiscal that the last thing I did before leaving was to pay my bill (180 pesos). I guess they don't want to hear the truth here.

I must have had one hell of a great time the hour I was there because today they presented me with a bar bill for $5, 700 pesos. I had no choice but to pay it. It's strange how this bill magically appeared after they were served with my papers.

I highly suggest that people avoid this place as the people there are desperate and will do anything to get your money. I will NEVER enter CMP again and I highly suggest anyone else who is contemplating going there, be prepared for some bullshit. [/i]

He is sueing them in court for one million pesos for assault and the case comes up next week.[/QUOTE]I went and talked to him about this today. He said they paid their original bill but he decided to have another drink for 180. But when the new bill arrived it was 570. He argued about it and the bouncer slammed him to the ground. He went to file a battery report and had them served with it. After he filed his report CMP filed one for non-payment of a bar bill (which he says is actually no charge at all - he should know being a bar owner himself) but added an extra 0 to make it 5700. They paid off the prosecutor and the judge (which he said is the reason they are able to stay open in the first place) and they back dated their report to make it the day before he filed his.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1314807]I actually prefer the week nights when the weekend warriors have gone home and the next batch have not yet arrived. Sosua is what you make it, I cannot wait to get back there for my next five week trip in December[/QUOTE]Same here. Week days feel more convivial. More of the premium chicks hanging around, chatting, drinking and dancing. Even in Classico it is easier to spot and approach girls (although I, for one, relish a nicely packed dance floor). Although if I were to stay more than a week in Sosua, I may appreciate the fresh meat and variety weekends bring.

This said, can't wait to finish my monger boot camp at Sosua and start exploring the vast world of fornication:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfjw28fSVfI[/url]

But for now, I start having that now familiar urge of a Presidente at El Flow. Time to look for a plane ticket I guess.

Yo Tomjackin, make sure you have a Encore Presentation in the VIP room at The Old Latinos. LOL! Westsidee. Damn I'm still in shock. I wish I was there, because I will continue where I left off. I will make sure the Chocolate Jackhammer, get well acquainted with them putas. LOL. I hope you don't forget my secret photos (wink wink). I wanto see a helluva lotta HIGH HEELS. So get that camera clicking. 'crime scene photos' We expect to see all evidence.

Have fun,

Peace!

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1315146]Yo Tomjackin, make sure you have a Encore Presentation in the VIP room at The Old Latinos. LOL! Westsidee. Damn I'm still in shock. I wish I was there, because I will continue where I left off. I will make sure the Chocolate Jackhammer, get well acquainted with them putas. LOL. I hope you don't forget my secret photos (wink wink). I wanto see a helluva lotta HIGH HEELS. So get that camera clicking. 'crime scene photos' We expect to see all evidence.[/QUOTE]The new El Toro (Latino) , the disco is closed during the week. VIP party thoughts are out the window! Good needs thought, Juan is back to work!

I'm getting some freak shots for you my friend!

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1315908]Taina did not show up at the New Garden Hotel like she said she would when I spoke with her in Classicos the previous night. I met Taina through Aida and Vanessa and since I already set up a commercial sexual liaison with them I could not very well accommodate Taina that night, so I offered her a simple solution to my overscheduled social life- quite different from the almost non-existent social life I have in New York- and offered to her to meet me at the New Garden at 7 pm, which was a convenient time for both of us in that it would not incur that much opportunity cost. Unfortunately, she did not show up. When I asked her about it in Classicos later on in the evening she said that she thought that I would call her to confirm it. I thought confirming the liaison the night before was sufficient, but if she wanted to throw away 2500 pesos in a time slot outside of mongering prime time than that certainly was her prerogative. On the other hand, Bella did show up on time. The lighting at the bar at the New Garden wasn't as sympathetic to her waning looks, she was in her late twenties, as the dimly lit Classicos was. Maybe I was in too much of a rush the previous night to get on with the debauchery and unspeakable sodomies with Venessa and Aida, not adequately assessing Bella before arranging the meeting at New Garden. Little did I know, while contemplating the possibility of ending the commercial sexual liaison right then and there, that Bella would have no qualms about engaging in all matter of debaucheries and unspeakable sodomies as well. Bella had heaped on globs of makeup and the light from the bar at New Garden made her appear too rakish for my taste. Out of politeness I told her to order what she wanted. We exchanged in some pleasantries, standard with women that I effectuated sociosexual liaisons with in Sosua, and then I got right down to pecuniary matters. I told her up front that I would give her 2000 pesos for short time, about two hours. She countered with 3000 pesos. She had to be kidding me. I didn't even really want her and she was proposing an all night rate for short time. I now had an easy out. I told her no. I thought I was extricated from the interlude, enabling me to head out to Merengue Bar and see what prospects were available, though it was relatively early in the evening and there were probably not a lot of women out, but she immediately agreed to my initial offer. It would have been stupid for her to decline, short of me looking like Quasimodo, which I do not. She really had nothing to lose by accepting my offer for she was already at the destination and with a guaranteed payout. All she had to do was go through with the commercial sexual liaison, her only other alternative, short of picking up a monger on one of the lounge chairs at the New Garden, was to head down to Merengue Bar and compete with a bevy of chicas, more attractive and younger than her, for paucity of mongers. I could have handed her 2000 pesos and bid her good night. (I will never renege on a chica that I have set up a meeting with. It is an unethical business practice and certainly will not bode well for my standing among the chicas in Sosua, a relatively small town, of whom certainly talk with each other about the various peccadilloes of the sex tourists that dwell in the bevy of haunts on Pedro Clisante. I already had a myriad of sexual proclivities that might be deemed unpalatable to a chica. I did not need unreliability to the mix.) However, I decided to go with her anyway.[/QUOTE]Dude! The enter button could be your best friend!

Look, I just used it!

You are killing us old folks with bad eyes; please stop the madness!

[QUOTE=Levan01;1314923]Just returned on Saturday stayed 3 days at Blackbeards and seven days at Mary Rose. Okay this is just my personal opinion, I have to say that because I know how some of you guys get down. Blackbeards didn't live up to my expectations it was my first time and probably my last time, it's okay for a day visit or an overnight stay no more. The girls were ok but not what I'm used to but 6s some 7s. Some of them were just interested in getting me to climax as fast as possible with no clue of how to really fuck. Bang Bang Bang wash wash rinse change condom repeat. A couple of the guys had complaints because the girls didn't want to do what they agreed to do and the Mamason was really no help. My Best session was two girls I Brought in from Field of dreams for 3000 pesos for all night Rossy & another real slim the chick. The next day all the girls knew about it, hey they talk about everything I mean everything, who's clean who's very dirty who can fuck Who takes a while to climax, who's a quick draw, it's funny because I had to stop this girl from given me this unsolicited information By putting my dick in her mouth, I told her I really don't care. In a nutshell Blackbeards seem to be a place for older guys, guys on the little strange side (and they were there) & guys that want or need everything laid out. Will continue my post or opinion about Blackbeards & Mary Rose condominiums in Part 2 & try to upload some pics.[/QUOTE]Don't know what Mary Rose is but I did a search on this forum. It's some kind of apartment, but couldn't find anymore info about it. Also, I'm deciding on 3 nites at Blackbeards or 3 nites at Field of Dreams. I take it you never stayed at Field of Dreams, just dropped by? Any advice? (I'm an older guy). I'll go to Sosua afterwards.

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1315908]Taina did not show up at the New Garden Hotel like she said she would when I spoke with her in Classicos the previous night. I met Taina through Aida and Vanessa and since I already set up a commercial sexual liaison with them I could not very well accommodate Taina that night, so I offered her a simple solution to my overscheduled social life- quite different from the almost non-existent social life I have in New York- and offered to her to meet me at the New Garden at 7 pm, which was a convenient time for both of us in that it would not incur that much opportunity cost. Unfortunately, she did not show up. When I asked her about it in Classicos later on in the evening she said that she thought that I would call her to confirm it. I thought confirming the liaison the night before was sufficient, but if she wanted to throw away 2500 pesos in a time slot outside of mongering prime time than that certainly was her prerogative. On the other hand, Bella did show up on time. The lighting at the bar at the New Garden wasn't as sympathetic to her waning looks, she was in her late twenties, as the dimly lit Classicos was. Maybe I was in too much of a rush the previous night to get on with the debauchery and unspeakable sodomies with Venessa and Aida, not adequately assessing Bella before arranging the meeting at New Garden. Little did I know, while contemplating the possibility of ending the commercial sexual liaison right then and there, that Bella would have no qualms about engaging in all matter of debaucheries and unspeakable sodomies as well. Bella had heaped on globs of makeup and the light from the bar at New Garden made her appear too rakish for my taste. Out of politeness I told her to order what she wanted. We exchanged in some pleasantries, standard with women that I effectuated sociosexual liaisons with in Sosua, and then I got right down to pecuniary matters. I told her up front that I would give her 2000 pesos for short time, about two hours. She countered with 3000 pesos. She had to be kidding me. I didn't even really want her and she was proposing an all night rate for short time. I now had an easy out. I told her no. I thought I was extricated from the interlude, enabling me to head out to Merengue Bar and see what prospects were available, though it was relatively early in the evening and there were probably not a lot of women out, but she immediately agreed to my initial offer. It would have been stupid for her to decline, short of me looking like Quasimodo, which I do not. She really had nothing to lose by accepting my offer for she was already at the destination and with a guaranteed payout. All she had to do was go through with the commercial sexual liaison, her only other alternative, short of picking up a monger on one of the lounge chairs at the New Garden, was to head down to Merengue Bar and compete with a bevy of chicas, more attractive and younger than her, for paucity of mongers. I could have handed her 2000 pesos and bid her good night. (I will never renege on a chica that I have set up a meeting with. It is an unethical business practice and certainly will not bode well for my standing among the chicas in Sosua, a relatively small town, of whom certainly talk with each other about the various peccadilloes of the sex tourists that dwell in the bevy of haunts on Pedro Clisante. I already had a myriad of sexual proclivities that might be deemed unpalatable to a chica. I did not need unreliability to the mix.) However, I decided to go with her anyway.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I got great advice about using the enter button. I used to spew nothing but run on sentences, and when I read back what I had wrote, I was FRUSTRATED. So try to take the advice of 5 or 6 sentences, period then enter ENTER button. I want to be truthful, I rather be frustrated, by your lack of usage of the ENTER button, than hearing How a CHICA STRAPPED ON, AND THEN WAXED YOUR ASS, WITH A IRON DILDO. LOL!

[QUOTE=Henry R;1316276]Don't know what Mary Rose is but I did a search on this forum. It's some kind of apartment, but couldn't find anymore info about it.[/QUOTE]Very nice. Contact owner colin 1 809-571-4551

[QUOTE=Sidney;1316492]Very nice. Contact owner colin 1 809-571-4551[/QUOTE]You can find Mary Rose at maryrosedr. Com or contact Colin on 1 809 882 8221

[QUOTE=TheGreenGuy;1316498]You can find Mary Rose at maryrosedr. Com or contact Colin on 1 809 882 8221[/QUOTE]I have not stayed there but I have friends that have and they gave a good reviews. I met Colin in Rockys one day, seemed like a decent guy.

flight:

i finally got a flight out of san diego to pop for $700 and change. some issues here, first, i had the red eye flight out of lax, and then the shitty 5 hour lay-over in miami. no more of these flights for me; i say that while i'm still tired. on the way back, my connecting flight from lax to sd was only 35 minutes in between flights, and the plane from miami was late getting to lax. lucky for a few of us they held the plane for ten minutes; no more of that nonsense in the future either.

hotel:

i stayed once again at the new garden and it was fine. got the jacuzzi room for the isog $77 cash rate per night. i really like the rooms and staff. the place was pretty quiet this trip, except for me yelling off the balcony from time to time.

money:

i used the wu again and got a rate of 39. 0500 the rest of the time i abused the atm machines and vice-versa.

cell phone:

i went back to orange and rented a sim card for 100 pesos, with a 500 peso deposit. i put 500 pesos of minutes on the card, which was plenty enough.

friday:

headed to the beach and met up with herman. he proceeded to tell me the bad news. there is a new chief of police and in the last few days the cops were rounding up all the haitians and other girls that were new in town. but from what i could tell throughout the trip, the haitians were rounded up, but were back in sosua within a couple of days; not sure how that works. i saw it happen a few different times.

headed back to the ng, walked around the corner and spotted marlene. marlene is about the sweetest girl in sosua. it was her first day back in the ng. she was working in panama for quite a while. she lit up when she saw me and we were reunited, however, she put on some weight and i teased her about it. i was dead tired, but marlene had been my first ng girl in the past, so let's go sweetie. i asked her where maria was, because maria was part of my first happy hour team, the m&m team.

we got to the room and within minutes, maria called. i know that i'm too old and tired from the flight to perform for one girl, no less two, but it was the m&m team reunion! i had to try! ok, call her up. maria hasn't had much work lately and she ran up the stairs and busted through the door with pure excitement in her eyes. we all played in the jacuzzi for a good two hours and i for one, was waterlogged when we got out. then it was time for rack operations. those girls are one hell of a tag team!

off they went, time for a nap, fuck the nap! stopped by the merengue bar just past ten, and the place was dead. headed down the sidewalk and my best pal juan was standing in front of the new del toro. he spotted me and proceed to give me the biggest bear hug i can ever recall receiving. turns out the new owner of the club hired him on, thank goodness because he was out of work for over 8 months, this was good news to me! i think the disco was only opened for one night when i was there, and when it was open, it was quite dead.

as i scanned the area, i could tell that rumba ruled the town. now rumba owns the restaurant next to it, which is surprising called rumba restaurant. next to rumba restaurant and a new huge place that looks like it might have potential, but i personally think the place would be an accountant's nightmare just because of its size alone. el flow seemed to be doing quite well also.

because i worked up an appetite with the m&m team, i ordered some food at rumba restaurant, grabbed a sidewalk table, and watched what was going down. wasn't long before someone that i knew would walk by, alex, herman's old girlfriend. she joined me for a drink, then her friend came by, and she joined us as well; funny how this happens in sosua.

alex's friend was coming on to me, like dry humping me while i was eating my chicken. she was cute, but i was tired. for her, disaster was about to strike. while i'm finishing up my chicken and being dry humped by the cutie. i get attacked from behind with a big hug and several kisses on my neck. i took a deep breath, and then i knew who it was, it was my favorite beach girl (bg1). i turned around and she was even hotter than before.

she sat next to me and latched on with all her might. now for some reason, i wasn't getting dry humped anymore and it seem like the cutie did not approve of the invasion; but i did. we headed over to del toro and chatted and drank a bit. i was too tired for much else and she had to head back to take care of her 20+ children. we made a date for the following day. it was a nice way to end the first day in sosua.

saturday:

headed to the beach and hung out at herman's place. the beach was about dead! but there were some here and there. and i shortly realized why. the cops had these walking patrols with a truck that was used to load up the women. there was about 7-8 cops on foot. but the thing was, they moved at walking speed. so i sat at the table and watched women rep001ter like hell. the best example i could give is if you had cockroaches in your kitchen and you got up in the middle of the night and turned on the light; the roaches run for cover. no, i'm not comparing anyone to roaches, just the action that happened.

headed back to ng for my late afternoon date and the m&m team were waiting on my arrival. i told them not today because i already had a date, with bg1. m&m were showing off their new manicures and pedicures, which i'm sure i paid for. bg1 strolls in and looking extremely hot. team m&m knew they just got their asses booted. bg1 decided she wanted to do a photo shoot in the grassy area. this is where i first met mr. gogo (mr. g.) he stopped by to say hello and even took a few pictures for us. okay, enough photos, time for jacuzzi / rack operations. this is when she reminded me why she is my favorite girl in the dr.

mr. g. and i met up and headed to one of his spots, four roses. the owner of fr was quite loose with the free shots; i liked the place. we were shortly joined by mr. enternational (mr. e.). after more than a few drinks and shots, we headed out and over to del toro. hell, it wasn't long before i spotted this smoking hot haitiana, or she spotted me, didn't care, just get the fuck over here! it was like, well fellows, it was great to meet and chat with you both, but it appears the little sailor just got hijacked by a non-somali pirate! the pirate held me captive for a good three hours. i gladly paid the ransom and she sailed off in the moonlight.

Thanks for this boots on the ground report and always making the reader he's right there with you!

P. S. More importantly thanks for the paragraphs! Jejejejeje LOL

[quote=tomjackin; 1316900]saturday:

headed to the beach and hung out at herman's place. the beach was about dead! but there were some here and there. and i shortly realized why. the cops had these walking patrols with a truck that was used to load up the women. there was about 7-8 cops on foot. but the thing was, they moved at walking speed. so i sat at the table and watched women rep001ter like hell. the best example i could give is if you had cockroaches in your kitchen and you got up in the middle of the night and turned on the light; the roaches run for cover. no, i'm not comparing anyone to roaches, just the action that happened.[/quote]both funny and sad at the same time, lol.

thanks for posting about your trip. been pretty quiet around the sosua forum lately.

great report and pictures. you brought back so many memories. i was feeeling your pain having fuck all those pretty young girls. you never mentioned classicos. did stop by. it is awesome when you run into chicas you know. i can not wait to get back.

[quote=tomjackin; 1316900]flight:

i finally got a flight out of san diego to pop for $700 and change. some issues here, first, i had the red eye flight out of lax, and then the shitty 5 hour lay-over in miami. no more of these flights for me; i say that while i'm still tired. on the way back, my connecting flight from lax to sd was only 35 minutes in between flights, and the plane from miami was late getting to lax. lucky for a few of us they held the plane for ten minutes; no more of that nonsense in the future either.

hotel:

i stayed once again at the new garden and it was fine. got the jacuzzi room for the isog $77 cash rate per night. i really like the rooms and staff. the place was pretty quiet this trip, except for me yelling off the balcony from time to time.

money:

i used the wu again and got a rate of 39. 0500 the rest of the time i abused the atm machines and vice-versa.

cell phone:

i went back to orange and rented a sim card for 100 pesos, with a 500 peso deposit. i put 500 pesos of minutes on the card, which was plenty enough.

friday:

headed to the beach and met up with herman. he proceeded to tell me the bad news. there is a new chief of police and in the last few days the cops were rounding up all the haitians and other girls that were new in town. but from what i could tell throughout the trip, the haitians were rounded up, but were back in sosua within a couple of days; not sure how that works. i saw it happen a few different times.

headed back to the ng, walked around the corner and spotted marlene. marlene is about the sweetest girl in sosua. it was her first day back in the ng. she was working in panama for quite a while. she lit up when she saw me and we were reunited, however, she put on some weight and i teased her about it. i was dead tired, but marlene had been my first ng girl in the past, so let's go sweetie. i asked her where maria was, because maria was part of my first happy hour team, the m&m team.

we got to the room and within minutes, maria called. i know that i'm too old and tired from the flight to perform for one girl, no less two, but it was the m&m team reunion! i had to try! ok, call her up. maria hasn't had much work lately and she ran up the stairs and busted through the door with pure excitement in her eyes. we all played in the jacuzzi for a good two hours and i for one, was waterlogged when we got out. then it was time for rack operations. those girls are one hell of a tag team!

off they went, time for a nap, fuck the nap! stopped by the merengue bar just past ten, and the place was dead. headed down the sidewalk and my best pal juan was standing in front of the new del toro. he spotted me and proceed to give me the biggest bear hug i can ever recall receiving. turns out the new owner of the club hired him on, thank goodness because he was out of work for over 8 months, this was good news to me! i think the disco was only opened for one night when i was there, and when it was open, it was quite dead.

as i scanned the area, i could tell that rumba ruled the town. now rumba owns the restaurant next to it, which is surprising called rumba restaurant. next to rumba restaurant and a new huge place that looks like it might have potential, but i personally think the place would be an accountant's nightmare just because of its size alone. el flow seemed to be doing quite well also.

because i worked up an appetite with the m&m team, i ordered some food at rumba restaurant, grabbed a sidewalk table, and watched what was going down. wasn't long before someone that i knew would walk by, alex, herman's old girlfriend. she joined me for a drink, then her friend came by, and she joined us as well; funny how this happens in sosua.

alex's friend was coming on to me, like dry humping me while i was eating my chicken. she was cute, but i was tired. for her, disaster was about to strike. while i'm finishing up my chicken and being dry humped by the cutie. i get attacked from behind with a big hug and several kisses on my neck. i took a deep breath, and then i knew who it was, it was my favorite beach girl (bg1). i turned around and she was even hotter than before.

she sat next to me and latched on with all her might. now for some reason, i wasn't getting dry humped anymore and it seem like the cutie did not approve of the invasion; but i did. we headed over to del toro and chatted and drank a bit. i was too tired for much else and she had to head back to take care of her 20+ children. we made a date for the following day. it was a nice way to end the first day in sosua.

saturday:

headed to the beach and hung out at herman's place. the beach was about dead! but there were some here and there. and i shortly realized why. the cops had these walking patrols with a truck that was used to load up the women. there was about 7-8 cops on foot. but the thing was, they moved at walking speed. so i sat at the table and watched women rep001ter like hell. the best example i could give is if you had cockroaches in your kitchen and you got up in the middle of the night and turned on the light; the roaches run for cover. no, i'm not comparing anyone to roaches, just the action that happened.

headed back to ng for my late afternoon date and the m&m team were waiting on my arrival. i told them not today because i already had a date, with bg1. m&m were showing off their new manicures and pedicures, which i'm sure i paid for. bg1 strolls in and looking extremely hot. team m&m knew they just got their asses booted. bg1 decided she wanted to do a photo shoot in the grassy area. this is where i first met mr. gogo (mr. g.) he stopped by to say hello and even took a few pictures for us. okay, enough photos, time for jacuzzi / rack operations. this is when she reminded me why she is my favorite girl in the dr.

mr. g. and i met up and headed to one of his spots, four roses. the owner of fr was quite loose with the free shots; i liked the place. we were shortly joined by mr. enternational (mr. e.). after more than a few drinks and shots, we headed out and over to del toro. hell, it wasn't long before i spotted this smoking hot haitiana, or she spotted me, didn't care, just get the fuck over here! it was like, well fellows, it was great to meet and chat with you both, but it appears the little sailor just got hijacked by a non-somali pirate! the pirate held me captive for a good three hours. i gladly paid the ransom and she sailed off in the moonlight.[/quote]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1316945]Great report and pictures. You brought back so many memories. I was feeeling your pain having fuck all those pretty young girls. You never mentioned Classicos. Did stop by. It is awesome when you run into chicas you know. I can not wait to get back.[/QUOTE]I'm not a Classicos type of dude. Yes there tons of hotties in there, but many I usually can see before and after; so to speak.

However, Mr. G. And Mr. E. went there and can maybe they can give you the scoop on the nowadays of the place.

Thanks for the kind words to all across the Sosua board.

A buddy just texted me from Sosua and said they had front row seats at Rumba Bar last night when they saw someone get shot at El Flow. One guy hit another over the head with a bottle. The other guy pulled out a gun and shot him 7 times.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1317105]A buddy just texted me from Sosua and said they had front row seats at Rumba Bar last night when they saw someone get shot at El Flow. One guy hit another over the head with a bottle. The other guy pulled out a gun and shot him 7 times.[/QUOTE]I'm sure he'll be able to claim self defense. The guy that hit him over the head with a bottle was trying to bring his brain (some) damage, LOL.

I've seen a gun get pulled on someone in Sosua once (in person) , but never anyone letting off shots. This stuff mostly goes on between the locals though. But one should still exercise caution: that could have been anyone of our asses rounding the corner to El Flow, beginning that trek up to Merengue Bar or Classicos and possibly get hit with a stray bullet.

I usually always pass through El Flow before crossing the street to get to Rumba Bar.

Booze and loose women will attract some gun carrying guys. That happens in these good USA. It is almost always locals.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1317114]I'm sure he'll be able to claim self defense. The guy that hit him over the head with a bottle was trying to bring his brain (some) damage, LOL.

I've seen a gun get pulled on someone in Sosua once (in person) , but never anyone letting off shots. This stuff mostly goes on between the locals though. But one should still exercise caution: that could have been anyone of our asses rounding the corner to El Flow, beginning that trek up to Merengue Bar or Classicos and possibly get hit with a stray bullet.

I usually always pass through El Flow before crossing the street to get to Rumba Bar.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1317123]Booze and loose women will attract some gun carrying guys. That happens in these good USA. It is almost always locals.[/QUOTE]I think the only difference is that people in the DR can carry guns by default. They don't have gun laws like we do in the US (needing to have concealed handgun licensing (CHL)). So in that instance it could have just been a guy stopping by for a drink who happened to have a gun on him.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1317105]A buddy just texted me from Sosua and said they had front row seats at Rumba Bar last night when they saw someone get shot at El Flow. One guy hit another over the head with a bottle. The other guy pulled out a gun and shot him 7 times.[/QUOTE]El Flow has been my hangout of choice for a few years but I think I will chill elsewhere from now on, one incident wouldn't make me change but this is the third or fourth shooting at El Flow this year. I like to live my life on the edge but not that edge.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1317142]El Flow has been my hangout of choice for a few years but I think I will chill elsewhere from now on, one incident wouldn't make me change but this is the third or fourth shooting at El Flow this year. I like to live my life on the edge but not that edge.[/QUOTE]Remember Halle Berry at El Flow last year?

[b]Marisol Arias La Pistolera De Sosúa[/b]:

[url]http://youtu.be/DW-V_vb9wTc[/url]

That pistol probably weighed more than her tiny ass, lol!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1317131]I think the only difference is that people in the DR can carry guns by default. They don't have gun laws like we do in the US (needing to have concealed handgun licensing (CHL)). So in that instance it could have just been a guy stopping by for a drink who happened to have a gun on him.[/QUOTE]Where do you get your information? It is contradicted by the information shown here.

[url]http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/dominican-republic[/url]

Also see this article from earlier this year

http://www.elnacional.com.do/nacional/2012/1/10/107614/Apruebanproyecto-modifica-leyregula-armas-de-fuego

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1317151]Where do you get your information? It is contradicted by the information shown here.

[url]http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/dominican-republic[/url]

Also see this article from earlier this year.

[url]http://www.elnacional.com.do/nacional/2012/1/10/107614/Apruebanproyecto-modifica-leyregula-armas-de-fuego[/url][/QUOTE]I stand corrected then.

Laws in DR are no different then US. Like US is little enforcement.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1317151]Where do you get your information? It is contradicted by the information shown here.

[url]http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/dominican-republic[/url]

Also see this article from earlier this year.

[url]http://www.elnacional.com.do/nacional/2012/1/10/107614/Apruebanproyecto-modifica-leyregula-armas-de-fuego[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1317156]Laws in DR are no different then US. Like US is little enforcement.[/QUOTE]I don't know about your state, but we certainly can't do this in Texas:

[i][b]Carrying Guns Openly in Public[/b]

In the Dominican Republic, carrying a firearm in plain view in a public place is allowed, subject to a valid permit[/i]

Our guns laws kick ass, by the way. Sucks for you if you live somewhere like Chicago or NYC (where the felons have more guns than the law abiding citizens):

[url]http://www.texasgunlaws.org/[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1317105]A buddy just texted me from Sosua and said they had front row seats at Rumba Bar last night when they saw someone get shot at El Flow. One guy hit another over the head with a bottle. The other guy pulled out a gun and shot him 7 times.[/QUOTE]

My amigo just informed me it was The WILD WILD WEST in El Flow last night!
He also had front row seats of the shootout.

Our gun laws are tough. So we do not have guys with assault rifles shooting people in movie theatres. One guy with a gun has a bad day can cause some big problems.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1317159]I don't know about your state, but we certainly can't do this in Texas:

[i][b]Carrying Guns Openly in Public[/b]

In the Dominican Republic, carrying a firearm in plain view in a public place is allowed, subject to a valid permit[/i]

Our guns laws kick ass, by the way. Sucks for you if you live somewhere like Chicago or NYC (where the felons have more guns than the law abiding citizens) :

[url]http://www.texasgunlaws.org/[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1317186]Our gun laws are tough. So we do not have guys with assault rifles shooting people in movie theatres. One guy with a gun has a bad day can cause some big problems.[/QUOTE]That happened in Aurora, Colorado. They have very strict gun laws there as well. But I guarantee you all it would have taken was for a few other people in that theater to had been packing that night and they could have taken that SOB out and saved a lot of lives.

Can't count on the cops. They only show up AFTER shit has hit the fan.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1317155]I stand corrected then.[/QUOTE]Yes, and no. Frannie may be right to correct you on a technicality in that there are laws on the books prohibiting the average swinging dick in the DR from carrying a pistol but you and I both know that Dominicans generally follow the rules of the street and that means if you can afford to buy or have been able to steal a pistol you can carry it around with you. How many young Dominicanos do you think there are that own a pistol keep it nice and safe tucked away at home, the answer is very few to NONE.

Was decked in full body armor including buletproof helmet and boots. He had the element of surprise and detonated some sort of inciendary grenade prior to opening fire. Unless you had holllow point armor piercing bullets you would have been dead.

The recent stories coming from Sosua are troubling to say the least, I don't travel to get shot by a stray bullet and I suspect a few more of these incidents, the real crackdown will come for sure

I live in Baltimore. On the weekend 2 or three people get popped a night. I am way more scared in Baltimore then Sosua and most urban centers in the US.

[QUOTE=Carrib; 1317268]Was decked in full body armor including buletproof helmet and boots. He had the element of surprise and detonated some sort of inciendary grenade prior to opening fire. Unless you had holllow point armor piercing bullets you would have been dead.

The recent stories coming from Sosua are troubling to say the least, I don't travel to get shot by a stray bullet and I suspect a few more of these incidents, the real crackdown will come for sure[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1317269]I live in Baltimore. On the weekend 2 or three people get popped a night. I am way more scared in Baltimore then Sosua and most urban centers in the US.[/QUOTE]It has nothing to do with where anyone lives. Are you on those corners in Baltimore everynight where the shooting is going on? You are probably well away from the scene tucked into your cozy house. The fact is that Sosua is a one horse town and everybody on this board who goes to Sosua hangs out on that same strip where the gun waving and shootings are taking place.

Sunday:

Yeah! Pussy Parade Day! A national event! Hung out at the beach for hours on end. There were no police patrols or harassment. The girls pranced up and down the beach. Some shuffled their feet, while others seemed to glide on thin air as they strolled. Hell, I stayed there until dusk. About 100 photos later, I felt content. Thank the father of Jesus for the digital age! I would be racking up some serious bucks, like I did in Brazil in 2004 & 2006, on film, developing, and tire wear, going back and forth to the store to drop-off and pick-up the regular photos. BTW, is Kodak sill in fucking business?

After the pussy parade, I stopped in the NG to shower up and especially, wash the slobber off my face, because God knows I was salivating for 4-5 hours at the beach. I ran into a new NG girl, pretty as hell, and her English was better than my Spanish, but that's not a big accomplishment. We were both hungry, so I took her to D'Colores for dinner. Sorry Coolie, no sambuca this trip. But I did finish off a couple of bottles of good tequila; hope that counts for something. Turns out, she was also interested in jacuzzi / rack operations (could have been the pesos as well). We had a great time and then I launched her home via motoconcho.

Later I met Mr. G. & E. At the bar next to Four Roses, either the name escaped me or I never knew it in the first place. Next door at FR, I saw one of the Haitiana's from the beach earlier. Herman told me she was arrested and deported just a couple of days earlier. I called her over for a drink; I'm good at that. We all hung out for a bit, but I already had a long day, so I took her back to the room for playtime. When we got to the room, she told me she wanted to go out and smoke some weed, so I gave her a bit of pesos and off she went, but left her purse in my room. 30-45 minutes later, no Haitiana.

Meanwhile, I got a call from Mr. G. He was at the small bar across the street from Baileys with three chicas and was calling in for troop support. I left the purse in the room and headed over to the bar to provide assistance. Hung out for a bit and thought I should check on the Haitiana, so headed back to NG. She never showed so I went up to get her purse and planned to drop it off at the front desk, but as soon as I got to the room, the front desk called and said she was on her way up.

She stumbles into the room and is as fuck up as a soup sandwich! No problem, I started striping her down and then I met "The Bush." This girl had a Bush around 3 inches wide. 6 inches long, and at least 2 inches deep. Now I'm not sure if those were the exact measurements because I left my tape measure at home this trip. Hell, she was fucked up, so I could have shaved her right then and there; but I didn't. We tried jacuzzi operations, but she went under twice without a snorkel and damn near drown, so we bailed and headed for dry ground. I fucked her, but not sure if she was awake or not. I dressed her and had security escort her out. And yes, I did give her some pesos. Hell, she was entertaining to say the least.

I called Mr. G. To see if he was still roaming around and he was, so we meet up at After One at about four. The place had a decent crowd and I met a few new hotties. One sweetie said that she needed a place to sleep and asked if I would step up to the plate and help her out with her dilemma. I told her I just had a hairy Haitiana as was not much interested in much else. She countered with a massage and blowjob while she slept over for 500 pesos. I went into the,"Oh well, why the fuck not?" mode. We all headed back, but first a stop at the sandwich cart on the corner; great fucking chow! The sweetie turned out to be a hoot in bed. Didn't plan on hitting it, but hell, she was naked in my bed, I had no choice but to tap it!

Monday:

I had a date at the beach with my favorite beach girl in the world, BG1. She showed up looking even hotter the than pervious times, or maybe I was just sober; who knows. We spent the afternoon together and we did our best to butcher each other's language; I won that contest! After a nice lunch, somewhat of a nice conversation, it was time to retire to the room for more jacuzzi / rack operations. The girl is even hotter in the room.

Later I met up with Mr. G. & E. At the big new place across Del Toro. Nice place, but I don't see much of a future in the place, unless they can do what Mr. G. Said they were trying to do, is pulling business away from Rumba. I have as much business sense as a monkey, so I really don't have a clue. I had a HOT 19 year old latch on to me and refused to let go and after two minutes I really liked her, OK maybe one minute.

We were sitting in this new place watching girl after girl being hauled away by the fucking idiot cops, and for no apparent reason. They would walk across the street and grab another. Mr. E. Pointed this out because he was the only one that was sober.

Meanwhile, another new NG girl, dark skinned, and sexy as hell joined Mr. G. I've talked to her a few times, but just too busy to tap her. Mr. G. Had told me earlier about her performance in the room and highly recommended her. She seemed to have a great attitude, and hot body to boot. At one point she leaned over and whispered that she wanted me. I said,"Of course you do, I'm a walking ATM without a password!"

Here we go! Dilemma time! I had to seek the counseling of Doctor Gogo on this one. Do I take the HOT unrated 19 year old or take the hot highly recommended NG girl? Doctor G. Pointed out that there was no dilemma and I should already know my next move; done! Not wanting to have a scene between the two girls, I yelled across and had Juan come over and escort the NG girl over to Del Toro. A bit later, I joined her.

While I was in Del Toro dry humping my new friend, another hottie that I fucked last trip stopped and gave me a big wet kiss; didn't seem to bother the NG girl. So all three of us partied for about an hour, before the HOT 19 year old came up to me and demanded money for her time. I went the fuck off on her. I said,"Money for your time? What are you a fucking plumber? You got free beers! Now just turn around and walk that sweet beautiful ass away!" She looked over and saw that Juan was in route and got the fuck out of dodge.

The NG girl and I retired to the room only to realized that my AC went to shit, and it was hot. The dude tried to fix it, but to no avail. So he gave me the keys to the double room next door. Now I have the entire 3rd floor of the new wing, including the private sun deck to myself; sweet! We played in the jacuzzi, then on the sun deck, and then in the new room. It was one incredible day and night!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1317315]No problem, I started striping her down and then I met "The Bush." This girl had a Bush around 3 inches wide. 6 inches long, and at least 2 inches deep. Now I'm not sure if those were the exact measurements because I left my tape measure at home this trip.[/QUOTE]I'm down with the bush, LOL! It was a nice looking one at that. Had more of a landing strip to it than wild jungle bush.

Tom did you not remember that when we left "After 1" at around 5; 45am that I was with the NG girl then? We hooked up with them at "After 1" and they went to the food stand with us. We fucked that morning and she went home, but my mind was still on that pussy so I spent the whole afternoon with her. She was awesome as you know. At one time in "After 1" you had ten girls sitting at our table. I was a bit worried that they were going to start some shit so I asked you to dismiss the groupies and lets just get two. If it was up to you every girl in "After 1" would have come to NG LOL.

Great writing and humor not tomention the pictures thankyou.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1317315]Sunday:

Yeah! Pussy Parade Day! A national event! Hung out at the beach for hours on end. There were no police patrols or harassment. The girls pranced up and down the beach. Some shuffled their feet, while others seemed to glide on thin air as they strolled. Hell, I stayed there until dusk. About 100 photos later, I felt content. Thank the father of Jesus for the digital age! I would be racking up some serious bucks, like I did in Brazil in 2004 & 2006, on film, developing, and tire wear, going back and forth to the store to drop-off and pick-up the regular photos. BTW, is Kodak sill in fucking business?

After the pussy parade, I stopped in the NG to shower up and especially, wash the slobber off my face, because God knows I was salivating for 4-5 hours at the beach. I ran into a new NG girl, pretty as hell, and her English was better than my Spanish, but that's not a big accomplishment. We were both hungry, so I took her to D'Colores for dinner. Sorry Coolie, no sambuca this trip. But I did finish off a couple of bottles of good tequila; hope that counts for something. Turns out, she was also interested in jacuzzi / rack operations (could have been the pesos as well). We had a great time and then I launched her home via motoconcho.

Later I met Mr. G. & E. At the bar next to Four Roses, either the name escaped me or I never knew it in the first place. Next door at FR, I saw one of the Haitiana's from the beach earlier. Herman told me she was arrested and deported just a couple of days earlier. I called her over for a drink; I'm good at that. We all hung out for a bit, but I already had a long day, so I took her back to the room for playtime. When we got to the room, she told me she wanted to go out and smoke some weed, so I gave her a bit of pesos and off she went, but left her purse in my room. 30-45 minutes later, no Haitiana.

Meanwhile, I got a call from Mr. G. He was at the small bar across the street from Baileys with three chicas and was calling in for troop support. I left the purse in the room and headed over to the bar to provide assistance. Hung out for a bit and thought I should check on the Haitiana, so headed back to NG. She never showed so I went up to get her purse and planned to drop it off at the front desk, but as soon as I got to the room, the front desk called and said she was on her way up.

She stumbles into the room and is as fuck up as a soup sandwich! No problem, I started striping her down and then I met "The Bush." This girl had a Bush around 3 inches wide. 6 inches long, and at least 2 inches deep. Now I'm not sure if those were the exact measurements because I left my tape measure at home this trip. Hell, she was fucked up, so I could have shaved her right then and there; but I didn't. We tried jacuzzi operations, but she went under twice without a snorkel and damn near drown, so we bailed and headed for dry ground. I fucked her, but not sure if she was awake or not. I dressed her and had security escort her out. And yes, I did give her some pesos. Hell, she was entertaining to say the least.

I called Mr. G. To see if he was still roaming around and he was, so we meet up at After One at about four. The place had a decent crowd and I met a few new hotties. One sweetie said that she needed a place to sleep and asked if I would step up to the plate and help her out with her dilemma. I told her I just had a hairy Haitiana as was not much interested in much else. She countered with a massage and blowjob while she slept over for 500 pesos. I went into the,"Oh well, why the fuck not?" mode. We all headed back, but first a stop at the sandwich cart on the corner; great fucking chow! The sweetie turned out to be a hoot in bed. Didn't plan on hitting it, but hell, she was naked in my bed, I had no choice but to tap it!

Monday:

I had a date at the beach with my favorite beach girl in the world, BG1. She showed up looking even hotter the than pervious times, or maybe I was just sober; who knows. We spent the afternoon together and we did our best to butcher each other's language; I won that contest! After a nice lunch, somewhat of a nice conversation, it was time to retire to the room for more jacuzzi / rack operations. The girl is even hotter in the room.

Later I met up with Mr. G. & E. At the big new place across Del Toro. Nice place, but I don't see much of a future in the place, unless they can do what Mr. G. Said they were trying to do, is pulling business away from Rumba. I have as much business sense as a monkey, so I really don't have a clue. I had a HOT 19 year old latch on to me and refused to let go and after two minutes I really liked her, OK maybe one minute.

We were sitting in this new place watching girl after girl being hauled away by the fucking idiot cops, and for no apparent reason. They would walk across the street and grab another. Mr. E. Pointed this out because he was the only one that was sober.

Meanwhile, another new NG girl, dark skinned, and sexy as hell joined Mr. G. I've talked to her a few times, but just too busy to tap her. Mr. G. Had told me earlier about her performance in the room and highly recommended her. She seemed to have a great attitude, and hot body to boot. At one point she leaned over and whispered that she wanted me. I said,"Of course you do, I'm a walking ATM without a password!"

Here we go! Dilemma time! I had to seek the counseling of Doctor Gogo on this one. Do I take the HOT unrated 19 year old or take the hot highly recommended NG girl? Doctor G. Pointed out that there was no dilemma and I should already know my next move; done! Not wanting to have a scene between the two girls, I yelled across and had Juan come over and escort the NG girl over to Del Toro. A bit later, I joined her.

While I was in Del Toro dry humping my new friend, another hottie that I fucked last trip stopped and gave me a big wet kiss; didn't seem to bother the NG girl. So all three of us partied for about an hour, before the HOT 19 year old came up to me and demanded money for her time. I went the fuck off on her. I said,"Money for your time? What are you a fucking plumber? You got free beers! Now just turn around and walk that sweet beautiful ass away!" She looked over and saw that Juan was in route and got the fuck out of dodge.

The NG girl and I retired to the room only to realized that my AC went to shit, and it was hot. The dude tried to fix it, but to no avail. So he gave me the keys to the double room next door. Now I have the entire 3rd floor of the new wing, including the private sun deck to myself; sweet! We played in the jacuzzi, then on the sun deck, and then in the new room. It was one incredible day and night![/QUOTE]

MVP! MVP! MVP! MVP! MVP! MVP! Nuff Said.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1317315]Sunday:

Yeah! Pussy Parade Day! A national event! Hung out at the beach for hours on end. There were no police patrols or harassment. The girls pranced up and down the beach. Some shuffled their feet, while others seemed to glide on thin air as they strolled. Hell, I stayed there until dusk. About 100 photos later, I felt content. Thank the father of Jesus for the digital age! I would be racking up some serious bucks, like I did in Brazil in 2004 & 2006, on film, developing, and tire wear, going back and forth to the store to drop-off and pick-up the regular photos. BTW, is Kodak sill in fucking business?

After the pussy parade, I stopped in the NG to shower up and especially, wash the slobber off my face, because God knows I was salivating for 4-5 hours at the beach. I ran into a new NG girl, pretty as hell, and her English was better than my Spanish, but that's not a big accomplishment. We were both hungry, so I took her to D'Colores for dinner. Sorry Coolie, no sambuca this trip. But I did finish off a couple of bottles of good tequila; hope that counts for something. Turns out, she was also interested in jacuzzi / rack operations (could have been the pesos as well). We had a great time and then I launched her home via motoconcho.

Later I met Mr. G. & E. At the bar next to Four Roses, either the name escaped me or I never knew it in the first place. Next door at FR, I saw one of the Haitiana's from the beach earlier. Herman told me she was arrested and deported just a couple of days earlier. I called her over for a drink; I'm good at that. We all hung out for a bit, but I already had a long day, so I took her back to the room for playtime. When we got to the room, she told me she wanted to go out and smoke some weed, so I gave her a bit of pesos and off she went, but left her purse in my room. 30-45 minutes later, no Haitiana.

Meanwhile, I got a call from Mr. G. He was at the small bar across the street from Baileys with three chicas and was calling in for troop support. I left the purse in the room and headed over to the bar to provide assistance. Hung out for a bit and thought I should check on the Haitiana, so headed back to NG. She never showed so I went up to get her purse and planned to drop it off at the front desk, but as soon as I got to the room, the front desk called and said she was on her way up.

She stumbles into the room and is as fuck up as a soup sandwich! No problem, I started striping her down and then I met "The Bush." This girl had a Bush around 3 inches wide. 6 inches long, and at least 2 inches deep. Now I'm not sure if those were the exact measurements because I left my tape measure at home this trip. Hell, she was fucked up, so I could have shaved her right then and there; but I didn't. We tried jacuzzi operations, but she went under twice without a snorkel and damn near drown, so we bailed and headed for dry ground. I fucked her, but not sure if she was awake or not. I dressed her and had security escort her out. And yes, I did give her some pesos. Hell, she was entertaining to say the least.

I called Mr. G. To see if he was still roaming around and he was, so we meet up at After One at about four. The place had a decent crowd and I met a few new hotties. One sweetie said that she needed a place to sleep and asked if I would step up to the plate and help her out with her dilemma. I told her I just had a hairy Haitiana as was not much interested in much else. She countered with a massage and blowjob while she slept over for 500 pesos. I went into the,"Oh well, why the fuck not?" mode. We all headed back, but first a stop at the sandwich cart on the corner; great fucking chow! The sweetie turned out to be a hoot in bed. Didn't plan on hitting it, but hell, she was naked in my bed, I had no choice but to tap it!

Monday:

I had a date at the beach with my favorite beach girl in the world, BG1. She showed up looking even hotter the than pervious times, or maybe I was just sober; who knows. We spent the afternoon together and we did our best to butcher each other's language; I won that contest! After a nice lunch, somewhat of a nice conversation, it was time to retire to the room for more jacuzzi / rack operations. The girl is even hotter in the room.

Later I met up with Mr. G. & E. At the big new place across Del Toro. Nice place, but I don't see much of a future in the place, unless they can do what Mr. G. Said they were trying to do, is pulling business away from Rumba. I have as much business sense as a monkey, so I really don't have a clue. I had a HOT 19 year old latch on to me and refused to let go and after two minutes I really liked her, OK maybe one minute.

We were sitting in this new place watching girl after girl being hauled away by the fucking idiot cops, and for no apparent reason. They would walk across the street and grab another. Mr. E. Pointed this out because he was the only one that was sober.

Meanwhile, another new NG girl, dark skinned, and sexy as hell joined Mr. G. I've talked to her a few times, but just too busy to tap her. Mr. G. Had told me earlier about her performance in the room and highly recommended her. She seemed to have a great attitude, and hot body to boot. At one point she leaned over and whispered that she wanted me. I said,"Of course you do, I'm a walking ATM without a password!"

Here we go! Dilemma time! I had to seek the counseling of Doctor Gogo on this one. Do I take the HOT unrated 19 year old or take the hot highly recommended NG girl? Doctor G. Pointed out that there was no dilemma and I should already know my next move; done! Not wanting to have a scene between the two girls, I yelled across and had Juan come over and escort the NG girl over to Del Toro. A bit later, I joined her.

While I was in Del Toro dry humping my new friend, another hottie that I fucked last trip stopped and gave me a big wet kiss; didn't seem to bother the NG girl. So all three of us partied for about an hour, before the HOT 19 year old came up to me and demanded money for her time. I went the fuck off on her. I said,"Money for your time? What are you a fucking plumber? You got free beers! Now just turn around and walk that sweet beautiful ass away!" She looked over and saw that Juan was in route and got the fuck out of dodge.

The NG girl and I retired to the room only to realized that my AC went to shit, and it was hot. The dude tried to fix it, but to no avail. So he gave me the keys to the double room next door. Now I have the entire 3rd floor of the new wing, including the private sun deck to myself; sweet! We played in the jacuzzi, then on the sun deck, and then in the new room. It was one incredible day and night![/QUOTE]

Sosua hunny: I WANT YOU.

TomJackin: Of course you do, I'm a walking ATM without a password.

Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Fucking Ass Off! ROTFLMAO

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1317315]Sunday:

Yeah! Pussy Parade Day! A national event! Hung out at the beach for hours on end. There were no police patrols or harassment. The girls pranced up and down the beach. Some shuffled their feet, while others seemed to glide on thin air as they strolled. Hell, I stayed there until dusk. About 100 photos later, I felt content. Thank the father of Jesus for the digital age! I would be racking up some serious bucks, like I did in Brazil in 2004 & 2006, on film, developing, and tire wear, going back and forth to the store to drop-off and pick-up the regular photos. BTW, is Kodak sill in fucking business?

After the pussy parade, I stopped in the NG to shower up and especially, wash the slobber off my face, because God knows I was salivating for 4-5 hours at the beach. I ran into a new NG girl, pretty as hell, and her English was better than my Spanish, but that's not a big accomplishment. We were both hungry, so I took her to D'Colores for dinner. Sorry Coolie, no sambuca this trip. But I did finish off a couple of bottles of good tequila; hope that counts for something. Turns out, she was also interested in jacuzzi / rack operations (could have been the pesos as well). We had a great time and then I launched her home via motoconcho.

Later I met Mr. G. & E. At the bar next to Four Roses, either the name escaped me or I never knew it in the first place. Next door at FR, I saw one of the Haitiana's from the beach earlier. Herman told me she was arrested and deported just a couple of days earlier. I called her over for a drink; I'm good at that. We all hung out for a bit, but I already had a long day, so I took her back to the room for playtime. When we got to the room, she told me she wanted to go out and smoke some weed, so I gave her a bit of pesos and off she went, but left her purse in my room. 30-45 minutes later, no Haitiana.

Meanwhile, I got a call from Mr. G. He was at the small bar across the street from Baileys with three chicas and was calling in for troop support. I left the purse in the room and headed over to the bar to provide assistance. Hung out for a bit and thought I should check on the Haitiana, so headed back to NG. She never showed so I went up to get her purse and planned to drop it off at the front desk, but as soon as I got to the room, the front desk called and said she was on her way up.

She stumbles into the room and is as fuck up as a soup sandwich! No problem, I started striping her down and then I met "The Bush." This girl had a Bush around 3 inches wide. 6 inches long, and at least 2 inches deep. Now I'm not sure if those were the exact measurements because I left my tape measure at home this trip. Hell, she was fucked up, so I could have shaved her right then and there; but I didn't. We tried jacuzzi operations, but she went under twice without a snorkel and damn near drown, so we bailed and headed for dry ground. I fucked her, but not sure if she was awake or not. I dressed her and had security escort her out. And yes, I did give her some pesos. Hell, she was entertaining to say the least.

I called Mr. G. To see if he was still roaming around and he was, so we meet up at After One at about four. The place had a decent crowd and I met a few new hotties. One sweetie said that she needed a place to sleep and asked if I would step up to the plate and help her out with her dilemma. I told her I just had a hairy Haitiana as was not much interested in much else. She countered with a massage and blowjob while she slept over for 500 pesos. I went into the,"Oh well, why the fuck not?" mode. We all headed back, but first a stop at the sandwich cart on the corner; great fucking chow! The sweetie turned out to be a hoot in bed. Didn't plan on hitting it, but hell, she was naked in my bed, I had no choice but to tap it!

Monday:

I had a date at the beach with my favorite beach girl in the world, BG1. She showed up looking even hotter the than pervious times, or maybe I was just sober; who knows. We spent the afternoon together and we did our best to butcher each other's language; I won that contest! After a nice lunch, somewhat of a nice conversation, it was time to retire to the room for more jacuzzi / rack operations. The girl is even hotter in the room.

Later I met up with Mr. G. & E. At the big new place across Del Toro. Nice place, but I don't see much of a future in the place, unless they can do what Mr. G. Said they were trying to do, is pulling business away from Rumba. I have as much business sense as a monkey, so I really don't have a clue. I had a HOT 19 year old latch on to me and refused to let go and after two minutes I really liked her, OK maybe one minute.

We were sitting in this new place watching girl after girl being hauled away by the fucking idiot cops, and for no apparent reason. They would walk across the street and grab another. Mr. E. Pointed this out because he was the only one that was sober.

Meanwhile, another new NG girl, dark skinned, and sexy as hell joined Mr. G. I've talked to her a few times, but just too busy to tap her. Mr. G. Had told me earlier about her performance in the room and highly recommended her. She seemed to have a great attitude, and hot body to boot. At one point she leaned over and whispered that she wanted me. I said,"Of course you do, I'm a walking ATM without a password!"

Here we go! Dilemma time! I had to seek the counseling of Doctor Gogo on this one. Do I take the HOT unrated 19 year old or take the hot highly recommended NG girl? Doctor G. Pointed out that there was no dilemma and I should already know my next move; done! Not wanting to have a scene between the two girls, I yelled across and had Juan come over and escort the NG girl over to Del Toro. A bit later, I joined her.

While I was in Del Toro dry humping my new friend, another hottie that I fucked last trip stopped and gave me a big wet kiss; didn't seem to bother the NG girl. So all three of us partied for about an hour, before the HOT 19 year old came up to me and demanded money for her time. I went the fuck off on her. I said,"Money for your time? What are you a fucking plumber? You got free beers! Now just turn around and walk that sweet beautiful ass away!" She looked over and saw that Juan was in route and got the fuck out of dodge.

The NG girl and I retired to the room only to realized that my AC went to shit, and it was hot. The dude tried to fix it, but to no avail. So he gave me the keys to the double room next door. Now I have the entire 3rd floor of the new wing, including the private sun deck to myself; sweet! We played in the jacuzzi, then on the sun deck, and then in the new room. It was one incredible day and night![/QUOTE]Westside. Great report and your funny storie telling is unmatched. This report had me dying of laughter, especially The Bush Mistress. Lmao. I wouldve had that puta turn that Bush into jamaican dread lock. We should call her a Puta Bob Marley or Roberta Marley. LOL! Or Afro-daisac. Thanks for getting the board back on track.

I enjoyed every minute of it.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1317315]Sunday:

Yeah! Pussy Parade Day! A national event! Hung out at the beach for hours on end. There were no police patrols or harassment. The girls pranced up and down the beach. Some shuffled their feet, while others seemed to glide on thin air as they strolled. Hell, I stayed there until dusk. About 100 photos later, I felt content. Thank the father of Jesus for the digital age! I would be racking up some serious bucks, like I did in Brazil in 2004 & 2006, on film, developing, and tire wear, going back and forth to the store to drop-off and pick-up the regular photos. BTW, is Kodak sill in fucking business?

After the pussy parade, I stopped in the NG to shower up and especially, wash the slobber off my face, because God knows I was salivating for 4-5 hours at the beach. I ran into a new NG girl, pretty as hell, and her English was better than my Spanish, but that's not a big accomplishment. We were both hungry, so I took her to D'Colores for dinner. Sorry Coolie, no sambuca this trip. But I did finish off a couple of bottles of good tequila; hope that counts for something. Turns out, she was also interested in jacuzzi / rack operations (could have been the pesos as well). We had a great time and then I launched her home via motoconcho.

Later I met Mr. G. & E. At the bar next to Four Roses, either the name escaped me or I never knew it in the first place. Next door at FR, I saw one of the Haitiana's from the beach earlier. Herman told me she was arrested and deported just a couple of days earlier. I called her over for a drink; I'm good at that. We all hung out for a bit, but I already had a long day, so I took her back to the room for playtime. When we got to the room, she told me she wanted to go out and smoke some weed, so I gave her a bit of pesos and off she went, but left her purse in my room. 30-45 minutes later, no Haitiana.

Meanwhile, I got a call from Mr. G. He was at the small bar across the street from Baileys with three chicas and was calling in for troop support. I left the purse in the room and headed over to the bar to provide assistance. Hung out for a bit and thought I should check on the Haitiana, so headed back to NG. She never showed so I went up to get her purse and planned to drop it off at the front desk, but as soon as I got to the room, the front desk called and said she was on her way up.

She stumbles into the room and is as fuck up as a soup sandwich! No problem, I started striping her down and then I met "The Bush." This girl had a Bush around 3 inches wide. 6 inches long, and at least 2 inches deep. Now I'm not sure if those were the exact measurements because I left my tape measure at home this trip. Hell, she was fucked up, so I could have shaved her right then and there; but I didn't. We tried jacuzzi operations, but she went under twice without a snorkel and damn near drown, so we bailed and headed for dry ground. I fucked her, but not sure if she was awake or not. I dressed her and had security escort her out. And yes, I did give her some pesos. Hell, she was entertaining to say the least.

I called Mr. G. To see if he was still roaming around and he was, so we meet up at After One at about four. The place had a decent crowd and I met a few new hotties. One sweetie said that she needed a place to sleep and asked if I would step up to the plate and help her out with her dilemma. I told her I just had a hairy Haitiana as was not much interested in much else. She countered with a massage and blowjob while she slept over for 500 pesos. I went into the,"Oh well, why the fuck not?" mode. We all headed back, but first a stop at the sandwich cart on the corner; great fucking chow! The sweetie turned out to be a hoot in bed. Didn't plan on hitting it, but hell, she was naked in my bed, I had no choice but to tap it!

Monday:

I had a date at the beach with my favorite beach girl in the world, BG1. She showed up looking even hotter the than pervious times, or maybe I was just sober; who knows. We spent the afternoon together and we did our best to butcher each other's language; I won that contest! After a nice lunch, somewhat of a nice conversation, it was time to retire to the room for more jacuzzi / rack operations. The girl is even hotter in the room.

Later I met up with Mr. G. & E. At the big new place across Del Toro. Nice place, but I don't see much of a future in the place, unless they can do what Mr. G. Said they were trying to do, is pulling business away from Rumba. I have as much business sense as a monkey, so I really don't have a clue. I had a HOT 19 year old latch on to me and refused to let go and after two minutes I really liked her, OK maybe one minute.

We were sitting in this new place watching girl after girl being hauled away by the fucking idiot cops, and for no apparent reason. They would walk across the street and grab another. Mr. E. Pointed this out because he was the only one that was sober.

Meanwhile, another new NG girl, dark skinned, and sexy as hell joined Mr. G. I've talked to her a few times, but just too busy to tap her. Mr. G. Had told me earlier about her performance in the room and highly recommended her. She seemed to have a great attitude, and hot body to boot. At one point she leaned over and whispered that she wanted me. I said,"Of course you do, I'm a walking ATM without a password!"

Here we go! Dilemma time! I had to seek the counseling of Doctor Gogo on this one. Do I take the HOT unrated 19 year old or take the hot highly recommended NG girl? Doctor G. Pointed out that there was no dilemma and I should already know my next move; done! Not wanting to have a scene between the two girls, I yelled across and had Juan come over and escort the NG girl over to Del Toro. A bit later, I joined her.

While I was in Del Toro dry humping my new friend, another hottie that I fucked last trip stopped and gave me a big wet kiss; didn't seem to bother the NG girl. So all three of us partied for about an hour, before the HOT 19 year old came up to me and demanded money for her time. I went the fuck off on her. I said,"Money for your time? What are you a fucking plumber? You got free beers! Now just turn around and walk that sweet beautiful ass away!" She looked over and saw that Juan was in route and got the fuck out of dodge.

The NG girl and I retired to the room only to realized that my AC went to shit, and it was hot. The dude tried to fix it, but to no avail. So he gave me the keys to the double room next door. Now I have the entire 3rd floor of the new wing, including the private sun deck to myself; sweet! We played in the jacuzzi, then on the sun deck, and then in the new room. It was one incredible day and night![/QUOTE]Westside. Great report and your funny storie telling is unmatched. This report had me dying of laughter, especially The Bush Mistress. Lmao. I wouldve had that puta turn that Bush into jamaican dread lock. We should call her a Puta Bob Marley or Roberta Marley. LOL! Or Afro-daisac. Thanks for getting the board back on track.

This report I enjoyed every minute of it. I have a question, by the way the police was hassleing the chicas, Do you think this the begining of the end of Sosua? I have a trip planned in October. After hearing about the shooting, and the police crackdown its concerning. I wish you wouldve invaded Classicos, because I wouldve love to have known the pulse of classicos chicas. I guess me 'El Caballo Negro'gunna need to gallop upstairs, and check out them putas. I need to find my future ex-wife. I'm ready to unleash the Chocolate Jackhammer on the putas. LOL!

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1317388]Sosua hunny: I WANT YOU.

TomJackin: Of course you do, I'm a walking ATM without a password.

Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Fucking Ass Off! ROTFLMAO[/QUOTE]Lmao that was a funny one.

Hey guys, I bought the 96 pack of blue pills from the local Sosua store for 1000 pesos but I'm worried about bringing them back to the states because of the quantity. Has anyone brought the full box back to the states? Will I encounter problems with customs? I think I'll just bring back a few. Anyway thanks for all the great reports I've read here.

Full trip report coming soon!

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1317433]This report I enjoyed every minute of it. I have a question, by the way the police was hassleing the chicas, Do you think this the begining of the end of Sosua? I have a trip planned in October. After hearing about the shooting, and the police crackdown its concerning. I wish you wouldve invaded Classicos, because I wouldve love to have known the pulse of classicos chicas.[/QUOTE]You only notice the crack down if you hear that its happening, then you can look and see it. No worries, tons of pussy left!

Mr. E. Reported on Classico and wrote in was pack with pussy, so consult his older report.

Have a fucking blast!

Tuesday:

I met an older gal which I have been toying with the last few days at the beach, she works at Las Flores. She brought a hot friend with her. Her friend was still quite shaken because she was arrested earlier in the morning because she had dark skin and the Keystone Cops did not recognize her from the regular girls. WTH, she was only in town for her second day! After a nice day at the beach, we headed back to the NG for jacuzzi / rack operations. She was fun, but I would not repeat. Fuck, what in the hell was I doing with a women in her early thirties in the first damn place! I should be ripped of my Monger pledge pin!

Later I stopped by the Merengue bar and my blonde cutie friend attacked me from behind. She said she was hungry, and so was I, so we went to the bar / restaurant that is next to Del Toro. We sat outside and I enjoyed the view as honey by honey walked by and flirted. Her hot, also blonde friend stopped by, and guess what, she was hungry too! I don't have a problem feeding the girls because I know where the food is going, directly to them. We shared our plates with her friend, and there was plenty enough to go around.

At one point during the meal, I looked over and noticed the cops harassing one of the beach girls that I met on Sunday. I was either brave or stupid or both, because I got up, walked over and told the clowns that she was my daughter, and asked if there was a problem. The cops said there was no problem, so I grabbed her hand, and brought her to join us at our table. The beach girl (BG2) had a very average looking face, but a body and great attitude from hell. She was also a very sweet and a touchy type of girl.

After I spent some time partying with BG2, I realized that she was special and that I really liked her. I knew that I needed to learn more about her. Little did I know, she would be mi esposa for the last three days in country. We retired to the NG where she unleashed on my old ass in the jacuzzi. We played under the stairs on the sun deck, and at one point we both past out in one lawn chair, it was a tight fit, but we pulled it off. I heard my name in the early morning, as well as a tap on the chest, and it was her suggesting that we retire to a real bed. But to be honest, I really enjoyed sleeping outside with mi esposa.

Wednesday:

Spent the day with mi esposa at the beach. Bought her some panties from Panty Man and she was dying to try them on, and more important, show them off to me. I told her to wait until after jacuzzi ops and she did patiently wait. After another great session all over the room and the sundeck, we headed out to dinner, and then on to Del Toro.

I ran into another hottie from previous trips, named Lexi. This girl is a real sweetie, but put on some extra weight. I called her on her chunkiness and she giggled and said she's been eating more than usual; you think? Mi esposa had no problems with Lexi and they seem to hit it off quite well. I told Lexi that I wanted a picture of her pussy so I could put it as my computer desktop background and promised her that I would jack-off to it every day; she giggled again. She was too shy to drop her drawers at the bar, so she took my camera into the ladies room and shot the picture. That action started what I affectionately call,"Baño Follies." Every time that one of Lexi's or mi esposa's friends stop by, they would ask me for a beer. Okay, you want a beer, Lexi, here is the camera, you know what to do! This silliness went on for the last two nights.

At one point in the evening, this serious hot blonde stopped be to say hi. I think I may have met her at the After One club, or the beach, or elsewhere, but one thing was for sure, I did remember her! She decided to step up this little baño game. She reached in my shorts and started stroking the little sailor, and lo and behold, he awaken from the dead! And it wasn't even Easter! The hottie then pointed to my camera and then pointed to the ladies room. Hell yeah, let's go! I gave mi esposa a kiss before I left; she just smiled. The hottie dropped to her knees and did her best to suck the life out of the little sailor; the best 200 pesos I've ever spent. I had to hand it to mi esposa, she was unshaken by all my silliness. Primarily because she knew she would be in my room at the end of the night.

Sosua is my favorite place on earth. Where else can you go and be a chick magnet.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1317748]Tuesday:

I met an older gal which I have been toying with the last few days at the beach, she works at Las Flores. She brought a hot friend with her. Her friend was still quite shaken because she was arrested earlier in the morning because she had dark skin and the Keystone Cops did not recognize her from the regular girls. WTH, she was only in town for her second day! After a nice day at the beach, we headed back to the NG for jacuzzi / rack operations. She was fun, but I would not repeat. Fuck, what in the hell was I doing with a women in her early thirties in the first damn place! I should be ripped of my Monger pledge pin!

Later I stopped by the Merengue bar and my blonde cutie friend attacked me from behind. She said she was hungry, and so was I, so we went to the bar / restaurant that is next to Del Toro. We sat outside and I enjoyed the view as honey by honey walked by and flirted. Her hot, also blonde friend stopped by, and guess what, she was hungry too! I don't have a problem feeding the girls because I know where the food is going, directly to them. We shared our plates with her friend, and there was plenty enough to go around.

At one point during the meal, I looked over and noticed the cops harassing one of the beach girls that I met on Sunday. I was either brave or stupid or both, because I got up, walked over and told the clowns that she was my daughter, and asked if there was a problem. The cops said there was no problem, so I grabbed her hand, and brought her to join us at our table. The beach girl (BG2) had a very average looking face, but a body and great attitude from hell. She was also a very sweet and a touchy type of girl.

After I spent some time partying with BG2, I realized that she was special and that I really liked her. I knew that I needed to learn more about her. Little did I know, she would be mi esposa for the last three days in country. We retired to the NG where she unleashed on my old ass in the jacuzzi. We played under the stairs on the sun deck, and at one point we both past out in one lawn chair, it was a tight fit, but we pulled it off. I heard my name in the early morning, as well as a tap on the chest, and it was her suggesting that we retire to a real bed. But to be honest, I really enjoyed sleeping outside with mi esposa.

Wednesday:

Spent the day with mi esposa at the beach. Bought her some panties from Panty Man and she was dying to try them on, and more important, show them off to me. I told her to wait until after jacuzzi ops and she did patiently wait. After another great session all over the room and the sundeck, we headed out to dinner, and then on to Del Toro.

I ran into another hottie from previous trips, named Lexi. This girl is a real sweetie, but put on some extra weight. I called her on her chunkiness and she giggled and said she's been eating more than usual; you think? Mi esposa had no problems with Lexi and they seem to hit it off quite well. I told Lexi that I wanted a picture of her pussy so I could put it as my computer desktop background and promised her that I would jack-off to it every day; she giggled again. She was too shy to drop her drawers at the bar, so she took my camera into the ladies room and shot the picture. That action started what I affectionately call,"Baño Follies." Every time that one of Lexi's or mi esposa's friends stop by, they would ask me for a beer. Okay, you want a beer, Lexi, here is the camera, you know what to do! This silliness went on for the last two nights.

At one point in the evening, this serious hot blonde stopped be to say hi. I think I may have met her at the After One club, or the beach, or elsewhere, but one thing was for sure, I did remember her! She decided to step up this little baño game. She reached in my shorts and started stroking the little sailor, and lo and behold, he awaken from the dead! And it wasn't even Easter! The hottie then pointed to my camera and then pointed to the ladies room. Hell yeah, let's go! I gave mi esposa a kiss before I left; she just smiled. The hottie dropped to her knees and did her best to suck the life out of the little sailor; the best 200 pesos I've ever spent. I had to hand it to mi esposa, she was unshaken by all my silliness. Primarily because she knew she would be in my room at the end of the night.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1317760]Sosua is my favorite place on earth. Where else can you go and be a chick magnet.[/QUOTE]I most certainly agree.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1317760]Sosua is my favorite place on earth. Where else can you go and be a chick magnet.[/QUOTE]Good question. Where else can you go and be a chick magnet?

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1318018]Good question. Where else can you go and be a chick magnet?[/QUOTE]LOS, Indonesia, or PI.

[quote=skeeter buck; 1317637]hey guys, i bought the 96 pack of blue pills from the local sosua store for 1000 pesos but i'm worried about bringing them back to the states because of the quantity. has anyone brought the full box back to the states? will i encounter problems with customs? i think i'll just bring back a few. anyway thanks for all the great reports i've read here.

full trip report coming soon![/quote]i too found that wonderful store in sosua. bought the same 1000 pesos worth of viagra and an additional twelve pack of natural viagra made from assorted herbs. both worked very well. i would not be too concern about customs. merely state that it is for personal use. the worst that can happen is for them to confirep001e your bounty and you loose $25.00.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1317760]Sosua is my favorite place on earth. Where else can you go and be a chick magnet.[/QUOTE]Anywhere you want other than the USA, just glue a Benjy to your forehead and they will be drawn to you like buzzards to a shit wagon.

[quote=skeeter buck; 1317637]hey guys, i bought the 96 pack of blue pills from the local sosua store for 1000 pesos but i'm worried about bringing them back to the states because of the quantity. has anyone brought the full box back to the states? will i encounter problems with customs? i think i'll just bring back a few. anyway thanks for all the great reports i've read here.

full trip report coming soon![/quote]i carry a zip lock bag full of condoms and viagra with me on every trip, more than 100 viagra at a time, there is no viagra police, i have been searched at customs more than once without a peep about the vitamin v.

[quote=hillbilly69;1318066]i carry a zip lock bag full of condoms and viagra with me on every trip, more than 100 viagra at a time, there is no viagra police, i have been searched at customs more than once without a peep about the vitamin v.[/quote]it is probably not a good idea to bring back more than a few viagra at a time, it is a controlled substance and requires an rx in the states.

i would put them in an alleve bottle as they are also blue.

remember the story of mr. limbaugh?

[url]http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-1753947.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1318090]It is probably not a good idea to bring back more than a few Viagra at a time, it is a controlled substance and requires an Rx in The States.

I would put them in an Alleve bottle as they are also blue.

Remember the story of Mr. Limbaugh?

[url]http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-1753947.html[/url][/QUOTE]A mutual friend of ours brings back 1000s at a time, he has never revealed his source, not sure if he gets them from Latino pharmacy or somewhere else but he wouldn't tell me which one cause he figured I would buy them all.

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1318090]It is probably not a good idea to bring back more than a few Viagra at a time, it is a controlled substance and requires an Rx in The States.

I would put them in an Alleve bottle as they are also blue.[/QUOTE]I have a ziplock bag full of Viagra, generic Viagra, Cialis, La Pela, and, most recently, Mambo 36. I don't have a prescription. I still have the 6 packets of Mambo I brought back with me in May (could not find Cialis). I still have about 12 packets of La Pela from previous trips. Don't have any more Cialis because at home all the "good stuff" gets used up first.

I just stick it in my check luggage as is. Never had a problem.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1318096]I have a ziplock bag full of Viagra, generic Viagra, Cialis, La Pela, and, most recently, Mambo 36. I don't have a prescription. I still have the 6 packets of Mambo I brought back with me in May (could not find Cialis). I still have about 12 packets of La Pela from previous trips. Don't have any more Cialis because at home all the "good stuff" gets used up first.

I just stick it in my check luggage as is. Never had a problem.[/QUOTE]I don't go into Colombia and DR with many Viagra but I come out with my share. Condoms if you got a big peter good luck finding condoms that fit if you run out especially in Colombia.

Buscemi if you remember correctly you were with me at the beach when I bought all a vendor had of Viagra and took them home with me granted it was only about 50.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1318099]I don't go into Colombia and DR with many Viagra but I come out with my share.[/QUOTE]Correct. I don't go into the DR with them at all. I just load up once I get to where I am going. If I have some 20mg "Vitamin C's" at home then I pop one before boarding the airplane and I'm good for at least 3 days. Keeps me from having to use much of the stock that I by in Sosua.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1318102]Correct. I don't go into the DR with them at all. I just load up once I get to where I am going. If I have some 20mg "Vitamin C's" at home then I pop one before boarding the airplane and I'm good for at least 3 days. Keeps me from having to use much of the stock that I by in Sosua.[/QUOTE]Don't forget to ask for an extra pat down at the airport on your way home from Medellin, maybe tell the female police you have extra viagra.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1318116]Don't forget to ask for an extra pat down at the airport on your way home from Medellin, maybe tell the female police you have extra viagra.[/QUOTE]As tempting as that may be I'm not looking to stay any longer than I have to, LOL.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1317748]Tuesday:

She was too shy to drop her drawers at the bar, so she took my camera into the ladies room and shot the picture. That action started what I affectionately call,"Baño Follies." Every time that one of Lexi's or mi esposa's friends stop by, they would ask me for a beer. Okay, you want a beer, Lexi, here is the camera, you know what to do! This silliness went on for the last two nights.[/QUOTE]I am happy that the girls actually returned with you camera. I just knew you were going to write that you gave one of the girls your digital camera and she walked out of the back door of bar with it, never to be seen again.

thursday / last day / new president!

many places were closed because the new president started his first day of work. thus, there were a lot of locals at the beaches. mi esposa shows up and we just enjoyed the day. i know this is an adult forum, but i just have to share this next story.

no me gusta el perro de agua!

herman and i were taking a dip to cool off. this local next to us had this little dog and was standing in about 4 feet of water. you could tell the dog didn't care for the water, because he was paddling his paws and was not even touching the water yet. for whatever reason, this idiot threw the dog 10 feet in the air and 20 feet out to sea. herman and i looked at each other with the "wtf" look. the dog is now paddling full speed towards the beach, while swimming clear of the owner. as the dog swam just past the dude, he was trying to call it over. the dog looked towards the guy, and gave him the "that's not going to happen!" look.

the dog gets to the sand, jumps on a beach chair, and starts rolling around trying to dry off. then the dog sits on the chair and looks out at the ocean. the owner is calling and calling for the dog to swim out and join him. the pup turned around and faced the other direction, as to say,"fuck you!" the dude got out of the water and when the pooch spotted him, the dog jump up and ran for higher ground. it was one of the funniness things i've ever saw at any beach in the world.

back on the monger track.

my plan was to take mi esposa back for jacuzzi ops, then go to bg1's place for dinner, then meet mi esposa later and hang with her for the rest of the night. that was until i got the phone call. just when we were about to leave the beach, i get a call from bg1. she said,"i'm at your hotel right now and i want to freaky freaky with you." change of plans! i broke the news to mi esposa; no problems whatsoever. i would meet up with her later in the evening. i promised her, and my promise is as good as gold!

bg1 put a jacuzzi ass kicking on me! it was a "don't you dare forget about me when you go home!" type of ass kicking! i decided it was too late for bg1 to start cooking, so we stopped by the ollie stand for chicken, and i wanted to try the pork sandwich. both were outstanding! i had a relaxing meal while roasting to death in bg1's place. i wanted to call dibs of the only fan, but the baby needed it more than me. said my goodbyes, and headed off to las flores to say my next goodbye. there are no fans in that place either, and it was hot as hell, it was a fast goodbye!

went to del toro and met up with the esposa. lexi showed up shortly afterwards; no worries in the world, let's drink. lexi and juan are now well seasoned photographers, so i just turned over the camera to both of them. at this point, juan is snapping pictures in the club, and lexi is taking "baño follies" photos. decided to call it an early night so mi esposa and i headed back to the ng at about two. i could tell that the esposa was a little disappointed from the lack of earlier jacuzzi ops, so she decided to put an ass kicking on my old ass as well! what a great way to end the seven night romp!

final thoughts:

even though the cops were being assholes to many of the girls, especially the haitianas, it did not put that much of a hamper on what i wanted to do and when i wanted to do it. there was still plenty of pussy to go around, and then some! i had more than my share of,"this is why i come to sosua" moments. i played with old flames, and created new connections as well. hell, i even have a wife now! not bad considering the last two sucked!

another thing i love about the girls in the dr, their asses are always moving! as soon as they hear music, they start moving their asses, it's like the two are connected. for example, i stream in latina music on the internet (which gore invented) , and mi esposa was passed out with her head on my chest, but when she heard one of the songs she liked, her ass started bouncing. it's like when you scratch a dog in the right spot, the leg starts moving. same concept, but different species.

the cops can crack down all the fuck they want, it won't keep me from traveling to sosua!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1318132]Another thing I love about the girls in the DR, their asses are always moving! As soon as they hear music, they start moving their asses, it's like the two are connected. For example, I stream in Latina music on the Internet (which Gore invented) , and mi esposa was passed out with her head on my chest, but when she heard one of the songs she liked, her ass started bouncing. It's like when you scratch a dog in the right spot, the leg starts moving. Same concept, but different species.[/QUOTE]Hum! This may explain why I did so much doggy style in Sosua. .

Dominicans are fantastic dancers for sure. It's part of the fabric of their culture I believe. My favorite is when they start rubbing their butt against your crotch when dancing, and start raising a leg. That's the spot you need to scratch I guess. .

Great report. Thanks for taking time to write it.

is lexi from sd. i had an amiga working in sosua named lexi. 19 very pretty nice rack and fat light brown ass. very cute. i had her on two occasions great atitude and amazing ass. not much passion.

[quote=tomjackin; 1318132]thursday / last day / new president!

many places were closed because the new president started his first day of work. thus, there were a lot of locals at the beaches. mi esposa shows up and we just enjoyed the day. i know this is an adult forum, but i just have to share this next story.

no me gusta el perro de agua!

herman and i were taking a dip to cool off. this local next to us had this little dog and was standing in about 4 feet of water. you could tell the dog didn't care for the water, because he was paddling his paws and was not even touching the water yet. for whatever reason, this idiot threw the dog 10 feet in the air and 20 feet out to sea. herman and i looked at each other with the "wtf" look. the dog is now paddling full speed towards the beach, while swimming clear of the owner. as the dog swam just past the dude, he was trying to call it over. the dog looked towards the guy, and gave him the "that's not going to happen!" look.

the dog gets to the sand, jumps on a beach chair, and starts rolling around trying to dry off. then the dog sits on the chair and looks out at the ocean. the owner is calling and calling for the dog to swim out and join him. the pup turned around and faced the other direction, as to say,"fuck you!" the dude got out of the water and when the pooch spotted him, the dog jump up and ran for higher ground. it was one of the funniness things i've ever saw at any beach in the world.

back on the monger track.

my plan was to take mi esposa back for jacuzzi ops, then go to bg1's place for dinner, then meet mi esposa later and hang with her for the rest of the night. that was until i got the phone call. just when we were about to leave the beach, i get a call from bg1. she said,"i'm at your hotel right now and i want to freaky freaky with you." change of plans! i broke the news to mi esposa; no problems whatsoever. i would meet up with her later in the evening. i promised her, and my promise is as good as gold!

bg1 put a jacuzzi ass kicking on me! it was a "don't you dare forget about me when you go home!" type of ass kicking! i decided it was too late for bg1 to start cooking, so we stopped by the ollie stand for chicken, and i wanted to try the pork sandwich. both were outstanding! i had a relaxing meal while roasting to death in bg1's place. i wanted to call dibs of the only fan, but the baby needed it more than me. said my goodbyes, and headed off to las flores to say my next goodbye. there are no fans in that place either, and it was hot as hell, it was a fast goodbye!

went to del toro and met up with the esposa. lexi showed up shortly afterwards; no worries in the world, let's drink. lexi and juan are now well seasoned photographers, so i just turned over the camera to both of them. at this point, juan is snapping pictures in the club, and lexi is taking "baño follies" photos. decided to call it an early night so mi esposa and i headed back to the ng at about two. i could tell that the esposa was a little disappointed from the lack of earlier jacuzzi ops, so she decided to put an ass kicking on my old ass as well! what a great way to end the seven night romp!

final thoughts:

even though the cops were being assholes to many of the girls, especially the haitianas, it did not put that much of a hamper on what i wanted to do and when i wanted to do it. there was still plenty of pussy to go around, and then some! i had more than my share of,"this is why i come to sosua" moments. i played with old flames, and created new connections as well. hell, i even have a wife now! not bad considering the last two sucked!

another thing i love about the girls in the dr, their asses are always moving! as soon as they hear music, they start moving their asses, it's like the two are connected. for example, i stream in latina music on the internet (which gore invented) , and mi esposa was passed out with her head on my chest, but when she heard one of the songs she liked, her ass started bouncing. it's like when you scratch a dog in the right spot, the leg starts moving. same concept, but different species.

the cops can crack down all the fuck they want, it won't keep me from traveling to sosua![/quote]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1318189]Is lexi from SD. I had an Amiga working in Sosua named lexi. 19 very pretty nice rack and fat light brown ass. Very cute. I had her on two occasions great atitude and amazing ass. Not much passion.[/QUOTE]Different chica. My Lexi does not have much of an ass, but is very passionate. I guess it's hard to get the entire package sometimes!:(

My Lexi is kind of sweet and innocent LOL for a puta.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1318205]Different chica. My Lexi does not have much of an ass, but is very passionate. I guess it's hard to get the entire package sometimes!:([/QUOTE]

I've been trying to wean myself off the religious reading of this forum to no avail. I'm ashamed to say that I'm hooked. Before I went to DR a few months ago I read to get aclimated. Now I read dreaming of making another trip without arousing suspicion from the ball and chain. If I read the bible this much I would have my own church by now! LOL. Thanks to all the members for their reports. Well appreciated.

Final Thoughts:

Even though the cops were being assholes to many of the girls, especially the Haitianas, it did not put that much of a hamper on what I wanted to do and when I wanted to do it. There was still plenty of pussy to go around, and then some! I had more than my share of,"This is why I come to Sosua" moments. I played with old flames, and created new connections as well. Hell, I even have a wife now! Not bad considering the last two sucked!

Another thing I love about the girls in the DR, their asses are always moving! As soon as they hear music, they start moving their asses, it's like the two are connected. For example, I stream in Latina music on the Internet (which Gore invented) , and mi esposa was passed out with her head on my chest, but when she heard one of the songs she liked, her ass started bouncing. It's like when you scratch a dog in the right spot, the leg starts moving. Same concept, but different species.

The cops can crack down all the fuck they want, it won't keep me from traveling to Sosua![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dandri;1318657]Even though the cops were being assholes to many of the girls, especially the Haitianas[/QUOTE]Were they locking up the Haitians or just harassing them?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1318701]Were they locking up the Haitians or just harassing them?[/QUOTE]First they locked them up, then sent them back to Haiti.

To the fellas' that live there;

How serious does this latest crackdown look? Anything like a couple years back? Is it effecting the amount of, street girls, hanging about? I would hate to go there a month from now, only to hear, they swept through town, the week before I arrived.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1318701]Were they locking up the Haitians or just harassing them?[/QUOTE]There a week ago and saw they had a truck full one night. Right in front of Classicos. Now that I think about it I think there were 2 trucks with guys with jackets that had immigration spelled in Spanish on them. One night at Rumba sitting at the table on the sidewalk and the police came by on foot. These 2 Haitians jumped to our table and were shaking like a leaf, I mean uncontrollable shaking, at that moment I really did feel bad for them. I asked her if she was coming out the next night and she said no. It really did seem by the end of the week Haitians were far fewer in numbers and to be honest noticeable fewer girls period! But as reported still plenty of girls overall for everyone though.