Santo Domingo

[QUOTE=YouCan;1952003]But I love the condos in Medellin and Cartagena as opposed to a hotel / motel room in DR.
[/QUOTE]That is really one of the main reasons that has kept me from pivoting back to the DR from Colombia. Maybe Airbnb will be a game changer in the DR, but nothing beats having your own apartment with washer and dryer like I get in Colombia. I also LOVE having a couch, with is pretty much none existent in most hotels and motels. It serves as my interview office / warmup bench. When a chica comes over, we sit on the couch, talk and drink before heading to the bedroom. I would say it has been one of the most important things that have kept me from having a bad session (unless I get the feeling she is trying to give me a rush-job).

Kinda hard to do this when the only thing in your place is a bed, a plastic chair, and a wooden stool Like at Terra Linda in Sosua.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1951574]I have never been to Boca Chica myself (only Sosua). Definitely read up in that forum. You will find lots of good info and pics of chicas within the first 8-10 pages in that forum.

If you are willing to endure the long bus ride to the North Coast, you might want to look into Sosua. It has the largest concentration of pros on the entire island. The chicas there would probably be considered hotter than the ones you'd find in Boca Chica as well. Also, not as many touts / pimps milling around in Sosua compared to Boca Chica as well.

If you are looking to be "spoon-fed" some hotties over a couple of days, then check out Blackbeard's Adult Resort. There is an entire thread dedicated to this topic (look for "Blackbeard's Resort" under the User Blogs section). This place is not a rip-off joint like other adult resorts in the DR. Go to their website and sign up for their newsletter and they will send you one that has pics of the chicas that hang around there during the day (and night). In fact, they just sent out a new one this morning. I would sign up for the newsletter, and then email them and ask them to send you the latest one. They also have bikini contests on the weekends. I stayed here on my very first trip to the DR and banged about 12 different chicas over the course of 4 days at this place.

If you are new to the DR/mongering, I would definitely recommend the strategy of going to a place like Boca, Sosua, or Blackbeard's for a couple of days, bang as many chicas as you can handle, then go to SD and chase your non-pros. That way, you are not seeming to be desperate for pussy should these chicas want to play bullshit games with you. Since you've already had a buffet of pussy a few days before, anything else you end up getting from non-pros would be a bonus.[/QUOTE]Good advice.

I get alot of non-pro love in Brasil-Rio and other cities.

Off cupid etc.

Its now 80-20 non-pro vs pro.

I'm plannin virgin trip to DR, speak portuguese fluente and some spanish-- I've lined up maybe 10 non pros in SD,do they play alot of games?- one from Higuey who calls me daily and is a sure fire comin to PCana/bavaro as I'm landing there from london-and then I was going to drive down (taxi, bus-anyone with driver please dm me) and stay at Napolitano, Palacio and hang w non pros-also go to boca chica and investigate.

I have one in San Francisco de macoris I want to see, weve been speaking for months and then go to Santiago and see a few I've lined up-then back again to SD and then Punta cana.

Is that nuts? LOL.

I don't drive but do have some money.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1952056]
I'm plannin virgin trip to DR, speak portuguese fluente and some spanish-- I've lined up maybe 10 non pros in SD,do they play alot of games?- one from Higuey who calls me daily and is a sure fire comin to PCana/bavaro as I'm landing there from london-and then I was going to drive down (taxi, bus-anyone with driver please dm me) and stay at Napolitano, Palacio and hang w non pros-also go to boca chica and investigate.

I have one in San Francisco de macoris I want to see, weve been speaking for months and then go to Santiago and see a few I've lined up-then back again to SD and then Punta cana.

Is that nuts? LOL.
[/QUOTE]I've always like Mr Gogo's take on dealing with chicas in SD. I am going to hit him up and ask him to comment (he probably is already on it, hahaha).

But just look at Oldkool's example below. He had been communicating with that Chica for a long time, gets into town and she is MIA. Just so happens she turned up later at his hotel, but he also has more than enough stories about how flakey Dominican women can be.

In my experience with talking with Dominican women via Dominican Cupid, they try to play the "novio/novia" angle with you (how many times has one hit you with "Que buscas"? Which is her way of asking if you are looking for a relationship). It's a game to have you treat them like a girlfriend rather than a pro so that they can use that angle to hit you up for money before and after your trip.

I've never had that problem with Colombian women. They know that when a gringo hits them up it is all about money. They don't try to play that "I want to be your girlfriend" bullshit.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1952056]

I get alot of non-pro love in Brasil-Rio and other cities.

Off cupid etc.

Its now 80-20 non-pro vs pro.
[/QUOTE]Since you now have experience with the two, let me ask you this: I have been casually browsing Brazilian Cupid over the past month. Is it just me, but why does it seem that the majority of the women on there are pushing 30+? For Rio, when I do my search for women 18-25, there are only like 4 pages of them!

Compare that to Dominican Cupid where there are hundreds of pages with women in that same age range just for Santo Domingo and surrounding areas alone.

Am I conducting my search on Brazilian Cupid incorrectly or something?

Exactly, I drink Martinis, so I grab a small supply of essential bar liquors. Vodka Rum Tequila fruit juices beer etc. Nice bar selection plus I can make a smoothie in morning with fruit and rum not to mention it's nice having huge living room with deck over looking either Medellin city or Cartagena beach. I always stay in same place so cleaning lady has all my Martini glasses, wine glasses etc and I bring my banging speaker that's Bluetooth hooked up to my iPad music along with Spotify. Throw in essential party supplies and liquor it's pretty hard not to impress the girls. Believe me once the girls check out the supplies they bring more girls to party. We start out partying and playing grab ass and then party all night then bring it back to the crib for round two! That doesn't work to great in a small DR room or any small one room place.

That's why I love the Condo, it's never more then 90.00 per night for the condo and its 2 bedroom /2 bath.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1952029]That is really one of the main reasons that has kept me from pivoting back to the DR from Colombia. Maybe Airbnb will be a game changer in the DR, but nothing beats having your own apartment with washer and dryer like I get in Colombia. I also LOVE having a couch, with is pretty much none existent in most hotels and motels. It serves as my interview office / warmup bench. When a chica comes over, we sit on the couch, talk and drink before heading to the bedroom. I would say it has been one of the most important things that have kept me from having a bad session (unless I get the feeling she is trying to give me a rush-job).

Kinda hard to do this when the only thing in your place is a bed, a plastic chair, and a wooden stool Like at Terra Linda in Sosua.[/QUOTE]

I love your excitement dude, we have all been there preparing for our first trip to the DR. It can be overwhelming and seem unreal. We have given you a great plan but you won't listen, none of us did LOL.

You have probably already given up any advantages you had and the girls are probably licking their chops thinking they have a new gringo that likes to spend money, Jackpot. I'm sure you have told them it's your first time to the DR and asked the typical newbie curious questions. You are probably going to go triple over-budget and the girls will make sure you do. You have already let them put in their bids and lock down your arrival and times, and you have yet to meet them. You are a Brazil vet so you think the DR is easy for newbies. Again, throw all this pre-planning and planned meetings out the window and play it slow. You can always fall back to the first plans later. Go to Boca Chica, not to "Check it out" but to use it as a break in place to gather your DR awareness. After two days in Boca chica you will know if you should go to La Capital, check out Sosua, or head back home. Boca Chica is entry level with a few pop quizzes, so pay attention when there. Boca chica will kick you back go kindergarten, move you to second grade or tell you to stay home and try again next year.

Also the money flows fast in the DR even when you are paying attention so lose the all-in spending attitude before you mistake a few blue 2000 notes for 500 notes. I always have a couple thousand pesos disappear every Trip but I guess it's just the DR fairy or my spending is too relaxed. Heads up.

The girls via the Internet can't be trusted based on a pretty picture, this takes time. You are going to get stuck upon arrival with a girl that is going to be sweet for 5 minutes then start the RFM (Requests for money) this is the SAT test for you. "Poppi I need to send my friend some money because she is baby sitting my child while I'm with you, I'm hungry and I need minutes for my phone, my mother came down with cancer the day before you arrived and I need to send her some money so they can cure it tomorrow etc ". You don't want to be an asshole because you like her but once you say yeah you are fucked. The second you say no " You wasted my time poppi, OK give me 5000 p to go or I'm going to police etc". Are you ready for this, it's the first pop quiz and 99 percent of the guys here failed it. The question is how do you back out with minimal damage? You don't brother, because you shouldn't have gotten there in the first place.

SD eats newbies up regularly and most end up staying in the hotel jacking off to ESPN. Be warned.

I remember JJ62 had a great first time Trip report (Where is he now, hope you are OK bro). Go back for his report because it was completely honest about his first experience.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1952067]I have been casually browsing Brazilian Cupid over the past month. Is it just me, but why does it seem that the majority of the women on there are pushing 30+? For Rio, when I do my search for women 18-25, there are only like 4 pages of them!

Compare that to Dominican Cupid where there are hundreds of pages with women in that same age range just for Santo Domingo and surrounding areas alone.

Am I conducting my search on Brazilian Cupid incorrectly or something?[/QUOTE]My take is that Brazil is more advanced than DR in the soical media dating aspect. I started on the Cupids in 2005 (Latin American and Brazil-before the sites were filled with hookers). That was when facebook was just coming out. I remember because my last grad school class I was in France and a classmate was telling about signing up on something called the facebook and it was only for students. There was no instagram and all this other shit that people use these days.

What I am getting at is the older people that you are seeing on the Brazil pages have been there a while or their older friends have told them about it. The new generation is working with newer types of social media such as instagram and facebook and whatever else they have these days. (I am out of the loop my damn self.) DR is years behind with this kind of thing so you are still able to get younger chicks on the archaic Cupid.

There is no way you would be able to pass one of those cheap ass old phones on a Brazilian that guys say they are giving to Dominicans. They are much too sophisticated for that just like their younger generation is too sophisticated for Cupid. It would be like someone from the 30-40 year old generation going to make a video dating tape at the mall. Old news.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1952067]I've always like Mr Gogo's take on dealing with chicas in SD. I am going to hit him up and ask him to comment (he probably is already on it, hahaha).

But just look at Oldkool's example below. He had been communicating with that Chica for a long time, gets into town and she is MIA. Just so happens she turned up later at his hotel, but he also has more than enough stories about how flakey Dominican women can be.

In my experience with talking with Dominican women via Dominican Cupid, they try to play the "novio/novia" angle with you (how many times has one hit you with "Que buscas"? Which is her way of asking if you are looking for a relationship). It's a game to have you treat them like a girlfriend rather than a pro so that they can use that angle to hit you up for money before and after your trip.

I've never had that problem with Colombian women. They know that when a gringo hits them up it is all about money. They don't try to play that "I want to be your girlfriend" bullshit.

Since you now have experience with the two, let me ask you this: I have been casually browsing Brazilian Cupid over the past month. Is it just me, but why does it seem that the majority of the women on there are pushing 30+? For Rio, when I do my search for women 18-25, there are only like 4 pages of them!

Compare that to Dominican Cupid where there are hundreds of pages with women in that same age range just for Santo Domingo and surrounding areas alone.

Am I conducting my search on Brazilian Cupid incorrectly or something?[/QUOTE]I'm deletin anyone askin for money-whether its latinamerican cupid, carribean cupid or whatever. Dominican, Brazilian etc.

Or if they still want to see you after you tell them what's up, then we can still meet.

I mght dangle a little carrot of a gift I brought along If I like them, they can have.

Something only theylll have in DR.

I agree many are angling the "serious relationship" allthough some have been for friendship and lets see. Or just romance.

Ultimately.

Regarding Cupid's relevance in Brazil, ID have to say it is very relevant.

In Rio it isn't as much but the rest of Brazil isn't Rio and is very much on it.

I have met, fucked, dated many from 19 years on up in last 3 years.

High quality.

Got to search the various cupids. Brazilcupid has fallen off, the rest haven't.

Rio is trickier and more in Happn, Tinder but the young ones just go out! There are so many stunners in Rio at every block party which is daily why would they need cupid.

Facebook is still their bread and butter in Rio.

Would love some tips on where to eat in SD-would be helpful.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1952067]I've always like Mr Gogo's take on dealing with chicas in SD. I am going to hit him up and ask him to comment (he probably is already on it, hahaha).

But just look at Oldkool's example below. He had been communicating with that Chica for a long time, gets into town and she is MIA. Just so happens she turned up later at his hotel, but he also has more than enough stories about how flakey Dominican women can be.

In my experience with talking with Dominican women via Dominican Cupid, they try to play the "novio/novia" angle with you (how many times has one hit you with "Que buscas"? Which is her way of asking if you are looking for a relationship). It's a game to have you treat them like a girlfriend rather than a pro so that they can use that angle to hit you up for money before and after your trip.

I've never had that problem with Colombian women. They know that when a gringo hits them up it is all about money. They don't try to play that "I want to be your girlfriend" bullshit.

Since you now have experience with the two, let me ask you this: I have been casually browsing Brazilian Cupid over the past month. Is it just me, but why does it seem that the majority of the women on there are pushing 30+? For Rio, when I do my search for women 18-25, there are only like 4 pages of them!

Compare that to Dominican Cupid where there are hundreds of pages with women in that same age range just for Santo Domingo and surrounding areas alone.

Am I conducting my search on Brazilian Cupid incorrectly or something?[/QUOTE]Also what are some good spots in SD to go out?

Pro, non-pro and eat? You guys are OG's. If you need spots in Rio-up to date, not obvious ones-proper carioca-hit me up. I'm there alot speak fluently and know it inside out.

Gustavo Mejia Ricart between Tiradentes and Lope de Vega is one of the city's restaurant rows. You will find everything from high end fine dining places to American chains like Dennys, Applebees etc. Best to park or get dropped off at one end of the street or the other and walk until you find something you like, because the traffic is usually very heavy. Especially on weekends.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1952119]I'm deletin anyone askin for money-whether its latinamerican cupid, carribean cupid or whatever. Dominican, Brazilian etc.

Or if they still want to see you after you tell them what's up, then we can still meet.

I mght dangle a little carrot of a gift I brought along If I like them, they can have.

Something only theylll have in DR.

I agree many are angling the "serious relationship" allthough some have been for friendship and lets see. Or just romance.

Ultimately..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1952003]Wow 50.00 round trip. Or do you mean 500?
Good Luck to all.[/QUOTE]No sir I meant exactly what I wrote, 200 and $50 round trip. Thank you for your clarity. It seems as Bart1 stated and you confirmed, you were basing your opinion of Colombia off of the 1 city you visited. In truth so was I. I was trying to challenge your post. I value your prospective. I was just caught off guard.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1952080]I love your excitement dude, we have all been there preparing for our first trip to the DR. It can be overwhelming and seem unreal. We have given you a great plan but you won't listen, none of us did LOL.

You have probably already given up any advantages you had and the girls are probably licking their chops thinking they have a new gringo that likes to spend money, Jackpot. I'm sure you have told them it's your first time to the DR and asked the typical newbie curious questions. You are probably going to go triple over-budget and the girls will make sure you do. You have already let them put in their bids and lock down your arrival and times, and you have yet to meet them. You are a Brazil vet so you think the DR is easy for newbies. Again, throw all this pre-planning and planned meetings out the window and play it slow. You can always fall back to the first plans later. Go to Boca Chica, not to "Check it out" but to use it as a break in place to gather your DR awareness. After two days in Boca chica you will know if you should go to La Capital, check out Sosua, or head back home. Boca Chica is entry level with a few pop quizzes, so pay attention when there. Boca chica will kick you back go kindergarten, move you to second grade or tell you to stay home and try again next year.

Also the money flows fast in the DR even when you are paying attention so lose the all-in spending attitude before you mistake a few blue 2000 notes for 500 notes. I always have a couple thousand pesos disappear every Trip but I guess it's just the DR fairy or my spending is too relaxed. Heads up.

The girls via the Internet can't be trusted based on a pretty picture, this takes time. You are going to get stuck upon arrival with a girl that is going to be sweet for 5 minutes then start the RFM (Requests for money) this is the SAT test for you. "Poppi I need to send my friend some money because she is baby sitting my child while I'm with you, I'm hungry and I need minutes for my phone, my mother came down with cancer the day before you arrived and I need to send her some money so they can cure it tomorrow etc ". You don't want to be an asshole because you like her but once you say yeah you are fucked. The second you say no " You wasted my time poppi, OK give me 5000 p to go or I'm going to police etc". Are you ready for this, it's the first pop quiz and 99 percent of the guys here failed it. The question is how do you back out with minimal damage? You don't brother, because you shouldn't have gotten there in the first place.

SD eats newbies up regularly and most end up staying in the hotel jacking off to ESPN. Be warned.

I remember JJ62 had a great first time Trip report (Where is he now, hope you are OK bro). Go back for his report because it was completely honest about his first experience.[/QUOTE]Loool I hear you big man and no there won't be none of that triple budget spending. I already told them anyone askin for money gets deleted.

SD eats newbies but so does Rio and I'm still here. Yeah their hustle feels a little different but am looking forward to it.

I'm a good dream seller though and that has worked a treat in Brazil and seems to be so far here. Always get the bad apples too but I'm in music and I've had girls rap to me down the phone etc LOL.

I'm not goin there to be their next gringo ATM-they already know.

Appreciate the advice though.

Everyone of them wants to leave DR or find a better life, anyone good looking and good dude who can help them theyll be into.

I have no illusions about some of them.

Postin snaps wth new clothes all the time but don't really have a job. Yeah ok.

Some doing the university and studying and live home thing. Guess everyone can be up for some additional paper on the side.

Most I'm speaking to don't seem like semi pros. Pretty normal. Poor. Obviously the 19 year old w 2 kids by a 41 year old whos sweet but needs money wd fuck all day someone cool.

I've got alot lined up in Brazil again-non-pros. Its 50/50 right now. Brazil def for me feels easier. I know I've gotten alot of non-pro pussy and have girls waiting. DR is more of an uncertainty but you oG's have done well and we all get gringoed on oocasion-I did in RIo a few times but in general as Cartman and Patmar can testify to do very well.

No free lunches. LOL thanks. Any spots good to go out in SD? Non pro? Clubs? You guys are v helpful.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1952698]Loool I hear you big man and no there won't be none of that triple budget spending. I already told them anyone askin for money gets deleted.

SD eats newbies but so does Rio and I'm still here. Yeah their hustle feels a little different but am looking forward to it.[/QUOTE]I see how you roll in Rio so I know you will not have any problems in DR. If anything, you will be bored stiff; especially in Boca Chica. The clubs are on Av Venezuela in Santo Domingo.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1952720]I see how you roll in Rio so I know you will not have any problems in DR. If anything, you will be bored stiff; especially in Boca Chica. The clubs are on Av Venezuela in Santo Domingo.[/QUOTE]Hahahah thank you sir.

Bored stiff? LOL hopefully just stiff. Some tasty girls in SD but yeah maybe more subdued sex than Rio but hey there def seem to be some freaky ones too.

Maybe I shouldn't go for that long! 2 weeks max see some [URL]places.Com[/URL]in from UK.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1952698]Loool I hear you big man and no there won't be none of that triple budget spending. I already told them anyone askin for money gets deleted.

SD eats newbies but so does Rio and I'm still here. Yeah their hustle feels a little different but am looking forward to it.

I'm a good dream seller though and that has worked a treat in Brazil and seems to be so far here. Always get the bad apples too but I'm in music and I've had girls rap to me down the phone etc LOL.

I'm not goin there to be their next gringo ATM-they already know.

Appreciate the advice though.

Everyone of them wants to leave DR or find a better life, anyone good looking and good dude who can help them theyll be into.

I have no illusions about some of them..[/QUOTE]I think you might do alright dude, looking forward to your reports. The reason I preached Boca chica is because it's easy and has all the amenities (beach, clubs, bars and girls) within walking distance. SD can be like a cold girl until you get familiar with her, it takes time and connections.

Venezuela avenida is nice, the west end of the malecón for street walkers, GPB for no frill quickies, Ole, and the mall and subway for non pros. If you are adventurous, I like a few spots on España. Another reason I suggested Boca Chica is because it's the center point for girls you might meet on the Internet. San Pedro, La Romana, Andrés and SD girls won't mind taking a bus to meet you. Girls from San Pedro and La Romana won't be fond of taking a bus to meet a stranger without a deposit in SD. SD is more miss than hit as the girls tend to play more games if they don't know you.

I'm curious though, if you are seasoned in Brazil why downgrade to the DR? The girls in Brazil are hotter and fuck Better. I understand the distance can be a problem to Brazil and maybe you want something new, but I would probably just branch out in Brazil if I knew the language. Brazil has always been a top spot and you have the gifts.

Anyway please report back about your DR experience (Good or bad) , we will be here to help you.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1952777]I think you might do alright dude, looking forward to your reports. The reason I preached Boca chica is because it's easy and has all the amenities (beach, clubs, bars and girls) within walking distance. SD can be like a cold girl until you get familiar with her, it takes time and connections.

Venezuela avenida is nice, the west end of the malecn for street walkers, GPB for no frill quickies, Ole, and the mall and subway for non pros. If you are adventurous, I like a few spots on Espaa. Another reason I suggested Boca Chica is because it's the center point for girls you might meet on the Internet. San Pedro, La Romana, Andrs and SD girls won't mind taking a bus to meet you. Girls from San Pedro and La Romana won't be fond of taking a bus to meet a stranger without a deposit in SD. SD is more miss than hit as the girls tend to play more games if they don't know you.

I'm curious though, if you are seasoned in Brazil why downgrade to the DR? The girls in Brazil are hotter and fuck Better. I understand the distance can be a problem to Brazil and maybe you want something new, but I would probably just branch out in Brazil if I knew the language. Brazil has always been a top spot and you have the gifts.

Anyway please report back about your DR experience (Good or bad) , we will be here to help you.[/QUOTE]Thanks man.

Its a good question actually.

I am actually experienced in Minas Gerais (Belo, Teofilo, Gov Valadares), Bahia, Fortaleza, Natal etc. Rrst of Brasil is great for non-pros.

I just started finding gorgeous girls from SD on the cupid. Mainly Latin and Carribean.

Been speaking daily with one from Macoris-poor, student, working. Not a semi or pro.

A Young one will come to Bavaro-as I land in Punta Cana from UK.

About 8 or 10 in SD I have been speaking to. None of these pro -normal ones except maybe one ID say is a semi -pro. The ones after paper got deleted.

One stunner in Santiago also working and studying law.

Level is on par with Brazil-no question.

Just a bit of a change wd be good after 18 trips to Brazil.

I do have some non-pros lined up in Rio and a couple of GFS and Bahia, Joinville, Curitiba and Fortaleza. But honestly about 5 of the Dominicans are seriously tempting.

Good convos. I think this trip will be mainly non-pro. Maybe a bit of mongering in PC when I land and in SD/BC a bit but I like the non-pro game in Brasil alot so wanna see what its like in DR as welll as a bit of pro action. In Rio I go where the locals go, cheap spots where I find diamonds.MIX it up.

I don't pay the gringo prices in the mouse traps.

I dig. But just crazy amount of hot girls in DR. Bodies. Faces. Maybe 2 weeks im thinking. PC 2 days, SD / BC and a bit of Rest maybe. Santiago, Sousa, Francisco.

I'm not sure what to expect. I have a few potential gfs lined up. 4/5. Lets see.

I have read with interest here.

Any restaurants or spots you guys love ill try.

Is it hard to find driver from PC to SD?

How much you think?

I'm not driving there but flyin to Punta Cana.

In Boca Chica are there any GF hotels at all or is it all about cabanas?

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1952921]Thanks man.

Its a good question actually.

I am actually experienced in Minas Gerais (Belo, Teofilo, Gov Valadares), Bahia, Fortaleza, Natal etc. Rrst of Brasil is great for non-pros.

I just started finding gorgeous girls from SD on the cupid. Mainly Latin and Carribean.

Been speaking daily with one from Macoris-poor, student, working. Not a semi or pro.

A Young one will come to Bavaro-as I land in Punta Cana from UK.

About 8 or 10 in SD I have been speaking to. None of these pro -normal ones except maybe one ID say is a semi -pro. The ones after paper got deleted.

One stunner in Santiago also working and studying law.

Level is on par with Brazil-no question.

Just a bit of a change wd be good after 18 trips to Brazil.[/QUOTE]I had to vette you as a newbie to the DR, but you appear seasoned with solid game. There is a bus from Punta Cana that goes strait to the capital with stops in la Romana, Boca chica and then SD. It's very comfortable (Aparta) and very cheap. These are the big buses. The smaller ones also do the same. Depending on how much luggage you have and the trust factor with the girl that's meeting you, she should be able to show you how to do this. You must really be a smooth dude if she is coming for you and hasn't requested money up front to come to Punta Cana. Be prepared for some drama when you try to move on from her. A driver or taxi from Punta Cana to SD will be expensive 125 usd to 175 usd each way.

Boca chica doesn't have any cabanas only two quick fuck hotels. There are hotels everywhere in boca chica so don't worry about accommodations there.

The non-pro game can be rewarding only if you are immune to their theatrics. Expect half to not fuck on the first date, or to bring a relative as a buffer. You will have wasted dinner checks and bar bills only to show for your efforts. Only when you get past these stages will the non-pro experience become rewarding but you may have wasted half your trip.

Here is my experience: the girls you meet on the Internet from Higuey, Hator Mayor, San Pedro and La Romana are best for GFE. They really have no life as there are no jobs and social spots so they stay home mostly. These girls live for an adventure with a generous gringo to break the same boring cycle they live. You are their knight in shinning armor. They fuck with meaning and have less game. The SD girls have a life with the big city keeping them going. They are more seasoned and gringo friendly but they also will get you. So why you are internet trolling pay attention to where they are from. Some things in the DR I always do solo like going to the bank or ATM, paying my bills, exchanging money on the street etc, but with this girl catching you straight off the plane she will also be in on everything you do to get situated. Heads up.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1952921]I am actually experienced in Minas Gerais (Belo, Teofilo, Gov Valadares), Bahia, Fortaleza, Natal etc. Rrst of Brasil is great for non-pros.

I just started finding gorgeous girls from SD on the cupid. Mainly Latin and Carribean.

Been speaking daily with one from Macoris-poor, student, working. Not a semi or pro.

A Young one will come to Bavaro-as I land in Punta Cana from UK.

About 8 or 10 in SD I have been speaking to. None of these pro -normal ones except maybe one ID say is a semi -pro. The ones after paper got deleted.

One stunner in Santiago also working and studying law.

Level is on par with Brazil-no question.

Just a bit of a change wd be good after 18 trips to Brazil.

I do have some non-pros lined up in Rio and a couple of GFS and Bahia, Joinville, Curitiba and Fortaleza. But honestly about 5 of the Dominicans are seriously tempting.

Good convos. I think this trip will be mainly non-pro. Maybe a bit of mongering in PC when I land and in SD/BC a bit but I like the non-pro game in Brasil alot so wanna see what its like in DR as welll as a bit of pro action. In Rio I go where the locals go, cheap spots where I find diamonds.MIX it up.

I don't pay the gringo prices in the mouse traps.

I dig. But just crazy amount of hot girls in DR. Bodies. Faces. Maybe 2 weeks im thinking. PC 2 days, SD / BC and a bit of Rest maybe. Santiago, Sousa, Francisco.

I'm not sure what to expect. I have a few potential gfs lined up. 4/5. Lets see.[/QUOTE]My understanding from your post is that you have had good conversations with quite a few of your DR contacts, and have had similar from women in Brasil. What makes the conversations with these women good? How much of their conversation communication involves them asking details about you, in an effort to really get to know you? Without you volunteering information about yourself.

I don't mean, them asking things like, are you or were you married, or do you have children? Those questions are expected. I mean things like them asking you where you grew up, your family life growing up, where you went to school and what you studied? Where do you live, do you intend to live here? Them asking you about your work, lexactly what you do, and how long you been doing it? Them asking why you chose to come to the DR / Brasil, and what are you looking for from women online?

The foundation for my inquiries, is because my experience with communication on dating websites, most of the women communicated well, but they mainly focused on themselves. They especially responded well to me probing and expressing interest in everything that was about them. When it came to them getting to know me though, their efforts were very shallow and limited. In enough instances, non existent.

It seemed, as long as they were the main focus in the conversation they were comfortable sharing. After all of the initial conversations, all that followed were reduced to greetings in the morning, how is your day in the afternoon, them telling me what they are doing at night, maybe asking me what I was doing, and eventually us saying good night. And that same pattern would just repeat daily. In the long run, these women really werent interested in me, or really needed to know me. And frankly it was mutual.

Other than that, it really seemed like the whole getting to know you phase was just a charade. I knew my ultimate goal was just to get laid. I seldom concerned myself over what their motivation was for getting with me. I kinda assumed it was ultimately for some sort of support or compensation. An eyeopener, was that most of them were usually more than 15 and up to 20 yrs younger than me.

On another note. I never got deep into labeling women as pro, semi-pro or non pro. For me, it didn't make any difference. Most have shown me, what they are about interacting with me. I'm just one of many before and after in a chain. I knew that in most cases, the woman I've targeted, with no job, low paying job, very little education, a career student that never finishes, were likely online to meet men to bolster their lives to a certain degree. Not necessarily looking for a serious relationship. Relationship meant, a man taking care of their needs. And their pussy and presence was their currency.

Further, I've stopped long ago being impressed by women who refuse a monetary offer, initially after weve finally met. I know deep down many want that money. In fact, they may even feel they have earned it being with a guy. The refusal doesn't garner them any points from me, nor do I think our arrangement is anything less than a soft version of pay for play. Thats why I think "regular" pay for play arrangements seem more honest. Plus you generally know the costs of that arrangement up front.

The expenses of dealing with so-called non pros, semi pros can end up being more expensive, or have costs way above and beyond ones expectations. Often leading up to supporting or spending money on her family, or ongoing payments even when you are not there with her. My question is, how long can or will a guy sustain that type of arrangement? Just to say he's dealing with a non, semi pro? What is he really getting in return?

The more a female can convince a guy she is his GF the more obligated he may feel to meet her expectations, but not necessarily his. Enough guys tend to convince themselves, that it's all good, because they are living on the premise that she is a non or semi pro, which is supposed to mean he's dealing with a female on some elevated level. Like the guy has something special. Maybe it is, at least for some. Your thoughts?

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1953155]My understanding from your post is that you have had good conversations with quite a few of your DR contacts, and have had similar from women in Brasil. What makes the conversations with these women good? How much of their conversation communication involves them asking details about you, in an effort to really get to know you? Without you volunteering information about yourself.

I don't mean, them asking things like, are you or were you married, or do you have children? Those questions are expected. I mean things like them asking you where you grew up, your family life growing up, where you went to school and what you studied? Where do you live, do you intend to live here? Them asking you about your work, lexactly what you do, and how long you been doing it? Them asking why you chose to come to the DR / Brasil, and what are you looking for from women online?

The foundation for my inquiries, is because my experience with communication on dating websites, most of the women communicated well, but they mainly focused on themselves. They especially responded well to me probing and expressing interest in everything that was about them. When it came to them getting to know me though, their efforts were very shallow and limited. In enough instances, non existent.

[/QUOTE]I agree this is at least partly because they are just interested in you for what they can get from you to meet their needs. It is also a sign of lower intelligence and poor educational attainment, in that they have little sense of or knowledge of the world outside of their experience, and little curiosity either. (So don't take it personally.) For example I have met chicas who ask questions like "do they speak Spanish in Jamaica" or "is Jamaica close to California? Or "what language do they speak in England? Or "Is England in Europe?" They really know very, very little about anything outside of their direct experience.

A lot of the time it is like having a conversation with a waitress in a restaurant in the US. They don't REALLY want to know if the food is OK, they just want to create the impression of being incredibly concerned that you enjoy your lunch in the hope of getting a better than average tip from you. And it works. Just the other day I was in a "country-style" restaurant in Florida where the food is cheap, but mostly horrible (= I could cook better myself). I ordered a lunch from the menu, although there was nothing that appealed to me. I pointed out to the waitress that the menu said "buttered carrots", but I could not detect any signs of any butter on the carrots. She came back a minute later and told me they were "very lightly buttered". I had a few more mouthfuls, then pushed the plate away, as the whole meal was pretty horrible. I was not asking for any refund, but the waitress came and took my plate away to the kitchen and got the price of my meal refunded (the person I was with was still eating.) I didn't think there was anything wrong with the meal, it just was what it was, but after the waitress had gotten me a refund without asking, the least I could do was give her a decent tip. It wasn't that she was being nice, or concerned about the quality of the food, she just wanted to earn her tip.

The upside of this is that they are often capable of being very sexually responsive to men in whom they have no particular emotional interest, which is what you want.

Boca Chica has a cabana.

The reason girls want to meet you at the airport is to keep you away from other girls and control your time and your money. If that is what you want, agree to have them wait for you at the airport.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1952935]I had to vette you as a newbie to the DR, but you appear seasoned with solid game. There is a bus from Punta Cana that goes strait to the capital with stops in la Romana, Boca chica and then SD. It's very comfortable (Aparta) and very cheap. These are the big buses. The smaller ones also do the same. Depending on how much luggage you have and the trust factor with the girl that's meeting you, she should be able to show you how to do this. You must really be a smooth dude if she is coming for you and hasn't requested money up front to come to Punta Cana. Be prepared for some drama when you try to move on from her. A driver or taxi from Punta Cana to SD will be expensive 125 usd to 175 usd each way.

Boca chica doesn't have any cabanas only two quick fuck hotels. There are hotels everywhere in boca chica so don't worry about accommodations there..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1953155]After all of the initial conversations, all that followed were reduced to greetings in the morning, how is your day in the afternoon, them telling me what they are doing at night, maybe asking me what I was doing, and eventually us saying good night. And that same pattern would just repeat daily.[/QUOTE]It is for this exact reason that you want to meet someone online no more than 2 weeks before your trip. Shit has run its course by then and cools off then you lose touch. I got lucky a couple weeks ago when a chick that I had talked to months ago just happened to hit me up out of the blue while I was in Santo Domingo. I had never met her, but soon as the storm hit I was on my way driving to her house to stay for the night.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1953219]It is for this exact reason that you want to meet someone online no more than 2 weeks before your trip. Shit has run its course by then and cools off then you lose touch. I got lucky a couple weeks ago when a chick that I had talked to months ago just happened to hit me up out of the blue while I was in Santo Domingo. I had never met her, but soon as the storm hit I was on my way driving to her house to stay for the night.[/QUOTE]Bro,

You are a too brave hombre. Ain't no way in the world would I drive to some strange girls neighborhood at night. Your angels are putting in overtime keeping you safe. Not to mention the jealous Dominican dude who wishes some gringo would bring his ass to the barrio to see his girl.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1953187]I agree this is at least partly because they are just interested in you for what they can get from you to meet their needs. It is also a sign of lower intelligence and poor educational attainment, in that they have little sense of or knowledge of the world outside of their experience, and little curiosity either. (So don't take it personally.) For example I have met chicas who ask questions like "do they speak Spanish in Jamaica" or "is Jamaica close to California? Or "what language do they speak in England? Or "Is England in Europe?" They really know very, very little about anything outside of their direct experience.

A lot of the time it is like having a conversation with a waitress in a restaurant in the US. They don't REALLY want to know if the food is OK, they just want to create the impression of being incredibly concerned that you enjoy your lunch in the hope of getting a better than average tip from you. And it works. space space space but after the waitress had gotten me a refund without asking, the least I could do was give her a decent tip. It wasn't that she was being nice, or concerned about the quality of the food, she just wanted to earn her tip.

The upside of this is that they are often capable of being very sexually responsive to men in whom they have no particular emotional interest, which is what you want.[/QUOTE]You want to know something? Just about everything you described resembles what many of us men have dealt with in the Matrix. I'm talking about relationships, marriages and friends with benefits. Men have had relationships and married women from their respective countries that were " just interested in you for what they can get from you to meet their needs. ". And guess what as well? Those same women were "often capable of being very sexually responsive to men in whom they have no particular emotional interest, which is what you want".

Those parts that you wrote are even true for men in the matrix, Having relationships, getting married, having children, buying property, living together for years and years until all of a sudden you find out that individual really never cared for you the way you thought. The women gave us what we wanted. Sexual responsiveness, without any particular emotional interest invested.

I'm glad you brought this up, and I appreciate your analogy / example. IMO, I have always thought the definition of Pro and semi pro should be defined to include an individual who is selling a commodity (in this case, sexual favors, and their company) in exchange for resources and financial gain. Instead of pro and semi pro seeming to mean, only the frequency of sex in relation to the amount of clients one has.

The key is, the pro part kicks in to identify the level of skill involved in pulling off the deception that one is interested in another on a personnal, getting to know you level. When nothing could be further from the truth. Its a professional charade. With more emotion being given to the female by a male that starts to feel compassion for the female based on her passive feminine behavior and circumstance. Its deep.

My thoughts on the matter, is that men should try to strive to distance themselves from every form of behavior they can they manifested in the Matrix, and not try to create a new Matrix but now in a foreighn country. In other words, they are all pros on some level. Expert or semi expert on making the right impression to get a guy to open himself up, and give. And like they are accustomed, receive less in return for their efforts. How convenient it is to do when you are dealing with folks poorer than you.

Thing is, the people we are dealing with aint stupid. They know the position they are in puts them in a power passive position. In enough cases, they don't even have to ask for anything. They'll get it just by revealing their life to us.

Oh she's a good girl. She's going to school. She's got a job, blah blah blah. Meanwhile, you know anybody in any of the Matrixs we are involved in that know women that would go out of their way to give us any substantive and commensurate return on our investment in them? Usually that's a HELL NAW. Of course there are exceptions.

My thing is, guys travel abroad to be free of one Matrix only to end up creating another for themselves. I think it's best to stick to simple pay for play. Rent and pay only for the services you want. And don't try to wife it, possess it, or buy it. Keep your emotions in check. How many of us, can feel that bleeding heart kick in where you have a strong urge to go above and beyond for a woman? You aint even doing it for her, you are doing for yourself because it makes you feel good. But is feeling good justification for giving to someone who has not earned the offering? Often there is some backlash from giving indiscriminately.

But later when don't get the satisfaction we had hoped, we complain about them being unappreciative, but not our weakness for giving undeservingly. I'm thinking about guys who have rented property for women so they could open a salon, bought cars, secured apartments and houses, bought furniture, bought gifts and all kinds of stuff. Spending money, investing in time, traveling all over the place, to find something better. It aint necessarily about trying to get better pussy. Its like finding ourselves doing stuff to sort of makeup for or compensate for our dissapointment or disgust with women back home. Like that movie Total Recall, maybe we need the correct program installed, so that we plan our lives and trips for our sole benefit, and leave the destructive matrix behavior out of it. Ya know, if we didn't have a sex drive, can you imagine how much different a man would be with his time and money? Or how about managing the sex drive, like a chess match. Only allowing the opponent to win sometimes, not all the time.

I probably have more to add, but got to hit the road.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1953219]It is for this exact reason that you want to meet someone online no more than 2 weeks before your trip. Shit has run its course by then and cools off then you lose touch..[/QUOTE]Exactly! I made that adjustment a while back when I was living in the states and coming to the DR on vacation. Months in advance communicating made no sense. Only the guy in town is getting the goods, not the guy at home involved in a bullshit exchange with women.

Also spent a week at the JW Marriott. Great hotel! Guest friendly. No requirement to check in at the desk. You will need to collect your guest (if you don't arrive together) at the ground floor or lobby floor (4th) since the guest room floors are secure. But that is it. So if you want a great hotel and amenities, this is the place. Executive lounge is top notch. Even on the weekends.

BTW. Ask for Danny at the taxi queue out front if you want someone to show you around. He knows the game and speaks great English. The doorman will know him.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1953256] My thoughts on the matter, is that men should try to strive to distance themselves from every form of behavior they can they manifested in the Matrix, and not try to create a new Matrix but now in a foreighn country. In other words, they are all pros on some level. Expert or semi expert on making the right impression to get a guy to open himself up, and give.

My thing is, guys travel abroad to be free of one Matrix only to end up creating another for themselves. I think it's best to stick to simple pay for play. Rent and pay only for the services you want. And don't try to wife it, possess it, or buy it. Keep your emotions in check. [/QUOTE]The fact the Dominican Republic is a poor country does make a difference. But it's also the laws and the culture. That's what makes it a different matrix. That is what we come here to discuss. Clown me all you want about my apartment, truck, bad Spanish and methods of operations. But I simply couldn't live in my country of origin the way I do in Republica Dominicana.

The advantage I see moving my pussy procurement operation offshore deals mostly with quality, attitude and cost of the providers available to fill the positions on my roster. I'm not going to get into labels. Everyone has their personal preferences.

I like the Matrix analogy. It fits perfectly. But what it seems to overlook how your life changes when you take the red pill. Existence of the matrix is not the problem. It's failing to take full advantage of the knowledge revealed after taking the "red pill".

We all have to operate within the matrix. But when we have "red pill" knowledge of the matrix we can operate within it with an advantage. I have watched as others escape but find the new reality too hard and instead burro into new matrix they find themselves in.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1950127]The most obvious thing I am going to say is that sometimes paying for sex and companionship is just plain simpler (that is providing the hoe is not scheming). I enjoy dating because sometimes I want a smile, conversation and sometimes sex that doesn't have a direct quid pro quo price attached to it. It has been refreshing to me to spend time with women who at least are not immediately trying to get into my pockets; however civilian -non pros are not without their own challenges.

Although I have been at the pro, semi pro and non pro crossroads many times I find that each type of woman satisfies the different desires I have during this season of my life.[/QUOTE]This is an example of how you operate within the matrix when you have "red pill" knowledge. Mr. Camaro is plugging in and finding the exits. Is using his "red pill" knowledge for his own personal enjoyment and satisfaction. If labels are not important then how is a direct pay for play transaction anymore honest than any other type of arrangement? Operating in the matrix to my advantage is my goal. To get what I want out of life at this point. Because if it was simply about paying for sex, I'm certain we can all do that in our country of origin.

I noticed that when I returned to my county of origin I had zero success with women. The only one I had a decent conversation with happened to be a Latina. I don't fault the women in this case. I fault myself. Pure lack of game. Because, I won't put with the attitude that was given to me even by women who I was willing to pay.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1953256]I'm thinking about guys who have rented property for women so they could open a salon, bought cars, secured apartments and houses, bought furniture, bought gifts and all kinds of stuff.[/QUOTE]If costs are a concern here is where my cost per orgasm (CPO) formula can be used. The number can be measured in any type of relationship. I keep a spreadsheet on all my girls. And I enter the amounts I spend on them each month and the number of orgasms I received. And it automatically calculates my CPO for each girl. That is my way of applying chess like logic to my matrix operations. Then I don't have to worry about the type of relationship or have a need to place a label on a woman. When it comes to emotional costs, I have not developed a cold hard calculation for that. But I have found that usually when the CPO starts creeping up so does the emotional costs.

My recommendations are simply:

1. Don't give up your ability to plug and un plug from the matrix.

2. Keep tabs on your CPO.

3. Don't let the girls upset your domestic tranquility.

Everything else is pretty much personal preference. When I need an exit the airlines have it for me. The matrix seems to survive just fine. And when I go back in it looks the same way as when I left. And when the agents come for you, turn and face them. Fight and win!

What is the point of this CPO, when old and ugly women get lower CPO, which is supposed to be good and tells nothing about your overall satisfaction.

[QUOTE=Nordico;1955661]What is the point of this CPO, when old and ugly women get lower CPO, which is supposed to be good and tells nothing about your overall satisfaction.[/QUOTE]That is when the formula changes to CPA (Cost per Ah que rico).

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1952080]I love your excitement dude, we have all been there preparing for our first trip to the DR. It can be overwhelming and seem unreal. We have given you a great plan but you won't listen, none of us did LOL.

You have probably already given up any advantages you had and the girls are probably licking their chops thinking they have a new gringo that likes to spend money, Jackpot. I'm sure you have told them it's your first time to the DR and asked the typical newbie curious questions. You are probably going to go triple over-budget and the girls will make sure you do. You have already let them put in their bids and lock down your arrival and times, and you have yet to meet them. You are a Brazil vet so you think the DR is easy for newbies. Again, throw all this pre-planning and planned meetings out the window and play it slow. You can always fall back to the first plans later. Go to Boca Chica, not to "Check it out" but to use it as a break in place to gather your DR awareness. After two days in Boca chica you will know if you should go to La Capital, check out Sosua, or head back home. Boca Chica is entry level with a few pop quizzes, so pay attention when there. Boca chica will kick you back go kindergarten, move you to second grade or tell you to stay home and try again next year.

Also the money flows fast in the DR even when you are paying attention so lose the all-in spending attitude before you mistake a few blue 2000 notes for 500 notes. I always have a couple thousand pesos disappear every Trip but I guess it's just the DR fairy or my spending is too relaxed. Heads up.

The girls via the Internet can't be trusted based on a pretty picture, this takes time. You are going to get stuck upon arrival with a girl that is going to be sweet for 5 minutes then start the RFM (Requests for money) this is the SAT test for you. "Poppi I need to send my friend some money because she is baby sitting my child while I'm with you, I'm hungry and I need minutes for my phone, my mother came down with cancer the day before you arrived and I need to send her some money so they can cure it tomorrow etc ". You don't want to be an asshole because you like her but once you say yeah you are fucked. [b]The second you say no " You wasted my time poppi, OK give me 5000 p to go or I'm going to police etc". Are you ready for this, it's the first pop quiz and 99 percent of the guys here failed it.[/b] The question is how do you back out with minimal damage? You don't brother, because you shouldn't have gotten there in the first place.

SD eats newbies up regularly and most end up staying in the hotel jacking off to ESPN. Be warned.

I remember JJ62 had a great first time Trip report (Where is he now, hope you are OK bro). Go back for his report because it was completely honest about his first experience.[/QUOTE]What the hell are you supposed to do w / that then? LOL.

OK, has anyone been to the Renaissance Jaragua lately? I've read conflicting reports about it being chica friendly in this thread. If I could get an update, it would be appreciated.

Out of the following hotels, which one (s) would you recommend? Which have been your favorite? What is the closest to the action aka nightlife, beach etc. Not just pros. Thanks fellas!

Jaragua, Catalonia, BQ Hotel, Casa Conde / Savoy, Napolitano & JW Marriott.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1952080]
SD eats newbies up regularly and most end up staying in the hotel jacking off to ESPN. Be warned.[/QUOTE]My first trip to Boca Chica, my mongering budget was gone after two days and spent the next five days exactly like that. LOL.

[QUOTE=DavisDj;1955953]What the hell are you supposed to do w / that then? LOL.[/QUOTE]Wait and see if the police comes. 9 times out of 10 they are bluffing. If the police show up, give then 500 to 1000 pesos and tell them to get rid of that bih.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1956023]Wait and see if the police comes. 9 times out of 10 they are bluffing. If the police show up, give then 500 to 1000 pesos and tell them to get rid of that bih.[/QUOTE]Boca Chica pimp told me once (after he pleaded a case for two chicas getting arrested and his attempt fail) that the police would love to hear what you got to say if you have money. If you don't have no money they will listen but they're not doing anything.

[QUOTE=DavisDj;1955953]What the hell are you supposed to do w / that then? LOL.[/QUOTE]Tell the girls before you meet them-if you start asking me for this that and the third, you gettin axed. Deleted.

I tell them upfront.

Doesn't mean a good time won't be had or that theyll pay for anything but its much easier.

In Brazil I've never had to do that, even with poor girls-over net.

Different culture I guess.

it can also be a good thing that a hotel keeps their cedula...it means hassle for girl if she doesnt have it..if sth happens.....

[QUOTE=DavisDj;1955954]OK, has anyone been to the Renaissance Jaragua lately? I've read conflicting reports about it being chica friendly in this thread. If I could get an update, it would be appreciated.

Out of the following hotels, which one (s) would you recommend? Which have been your favorite? What is the closest to the action aka nightlife, beach etc. Not just pros. Thanks fellas!

Jaragua, Catalonia, BQ Hotel, Casa Conde / Savoy, Napolitano & JW Marriott.[/QUOTE]Jaragua hotel charges the same for a single or double room so the smart move is to rent a double. Your girl can arrive later than you and you can register her as a guest withouth paying additional cash. You can't bring multiple girls, that means the hotel is not guest friendly.

BQ (my favorite) and Napolitano are 100% guest friendly. You can bring as many guests as you want and they do not charge extra cash for that. BQ is my favorite because the room was nice and clean, the air conditioner was ice cold which is a must for me, the buffet breakfast should be one of the best of the city and her guest friendly police. You don't have go down to the lobby to pick the girl or girls if you do not want, they just ask the girl for an ID, call you to approve her visit and she goes up to your room. The hotel is in a nice and less noisy area of the city. There are street girls along the Sarasota Avenue where the hotel is located.

Somebody recently posted about JW, read just a couple of pages back for an answer.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1956171]Tell the girls before you meet them-if you start asking me for this that and the third, you gettin axed. Deleted.

I tell them upfront.

Doesn't mean a good time won't be had or that theyll pay for anything but its much easier.

In Brazil I've never had to do that, even with poor girls-over net.

Different culture I guess.[/QUOTE]You will soon find out that Dominican women are world class beggars with no shame. You have to dangle the carrot because if you take the carrot away she will not be motivated. She will have an attitude or start playing on her phone as she loses interest. Telling her not to ask will be forgotten five minutes later as she reverts to plan be which is plan A with a delay.

Again, that's why I recommend Boca Chica. Those touts and girls there make you hard and seasoned very fast. You will learn the game in a couple days that will take you a couple weeks to learn elsewhere on the island. I still think you should roll solo and keep all options open being it's your first DR trip. Wifing up straight off the airplane is not a good idea for a first timer.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1956179]You will soon find out that Dominican women are world class beggars with no shame. [/QUOTE]That is some funny shit. Since I had to give up my Note 7, my messages were all messed up in my new phone and I did not have the chick's who house I stayed over last time number saved. I had not heard from her. I finally figured out which was hers and sent a message saying what is going on with you. Why haven't I heard from you. This b is going to respond with I do not have any money. None. I said I understand. Me either. That is why I am at work right now. She said okay bye. And I have not heard from her since. She was expecting me to say okay well I will send you some money.

I don't know where they come up with that fucking idea that they get to sit around and mfs are just going to give them money. But it has never worked that way with me. My own daughter has never even called me with some bullshit like that. She knows how to earn her keep and she is only 20 years old. For some reason a bunch of Dominican women think you are supposed to give them part of your keep while they do nothing. Still, there are tons of other women there who are not of the beggar variety. I have plenty of chicks who for the years I have been dealing with them have never asked 1 peso from me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1956231]I did not have the chick's who house I stayed over last time number saved. I had not heard from her. I finally figured out which was hers and sent a message saying what is going on with you. Why haven't I heard from you. This b is going to respond with I do not have any money. None. I said I understand. Me either.

I don't know where they come up with that fucking idea that they get to sit around and mfs are just going to give them money. [/QUOTE]Come on Mr. E they got it from us! Even on this board IMHO it's 30% of us that choose to go that route. How can you have a walking ATM in front of you and try to cash in. Chicas see us gringos as money. She is going to try you. What she got to lose. Sometimes we are not Even talking to the chica, her novio is talking for her. That why their remarks are sometimes straight to the point.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1956179]You will soon find out that Dominican women are world class beggars with no shame. You have to dangle the carrot because if you take the carrot away she will not be motivated. She will have an attitude or start playing on her phone as she loses interest. Telling her not to ask will be forgotten five minutes later as she reverts to plan be which is plan A with a delay.

Again, that's why I recommend Boca Chica. Those touts and girls there make you hard and seasoned very fast. You will learn the game in a couple days that will take you a couple weeks to learn elsewhere on the island. I still think you should roll solo and keep all options open being it's your first DR trip. Wifing up straight off the airplane is not a good idea for a first timer.[/QUOTE]Great advice Gogo. The ones I have set up are non-pros and will only be for 1 day each. Def seems like more of a headache than Brazil off the top. Havin said that some of the girls I have seen probably match anything I've seen in Br. My taste. We shall see! LOL Hotel BQ sounds good. Looks a notch above Napolitano.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1956258]Great advice Gogo. The ones I have set up are non-pros and will only be for 1 day each.[/QUOTE]Non-pros for one day talking about a waste of time. If she's truly a non Pro and is trying to make an impression. Wining and dining her to only send her home because she's playing good girl is a waste of time for me. Spending all your time with her meanwhile looking at all the other pussy you can take right back to your room for half money you wasted not getting pussy. Talking about a torture vacation.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1956273]Non-pros for one day talking about a waste of time. If she's truly a non Pro and is trying to make an impression. Wining and dining her to only send her home because she's playing good girl is a waste of time for me.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with you. I think my success with nonpros comes because they know that I go there a lot so more than likely I am not going to fuck them and forget them. Most of them have not even traveled in their own country. So when I can tell them about a part of their country that is only 3 hours away but they have only dreamed about going it is pretty impressive. My girl in immigration lives in Santo Domingo and her first time going to Puerto Plata was last year She was really blown away by the place, while in my mind it is a what is the big deal.

Some hooker in Sosua was trying to tell me she lived in the San Ysidro area of Santo Domingo. I figured she was lying so I asked her to tell me about the place. She had no idea that the first thing a person should think of when San Ysidro is mentioned is the air base and the cabanas. Even when you show those broads that you know more than they expected the prices can come down.

If they know it is your first time in the country and you do not know anything about the place or the culture then you are taking a big chance betting on nonpros in the DR. And like I have said before, your first challenge is getting them to even show up.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1956258]Great advice Gogo. The ones I have set up are non-pros and will only be for 1 day each.[/QUOTE]Keep in mind the difference between nonpros with a job and nonpros without a job. I think that 95% of the nonpros with a job will not want anything from you. But you have a smaller window of opportunity because her time is not as flexible seeing that she has a job to go to.

A nonpro without a job is probably a 95% chance to turn into a P4P situation. They can probably spend time with you anytime you want since they don't have shit else to do. And you will sometimes hear the word tacao from these women because they want to guilt you into giving them money. Funny that a broad who does not have shit is the first one to call somebody cheap. I have never heard that word from a nonpro with a job.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1956304]Keep in mind the difference between nonpros with a job and nonpros without a job. I think that 95% of the nonpros with a job will not want anything from you. [/QUOTE]In my experience in dealing with non Pros that they want the same things the other chicas want. Nice purses, hair, clothes, perfume financial support ect. And though they're not selling ass per se, they are hoping their mates can make life easier. If she has a normal job she's usually working like a Hebrew slave. Not really making much even in the professional fields. But they do get to keep a little self respect. To me the difference is that the pro or semi pro and is going to ask you for the money straight up. So if a woman who works like a Hebrew slave all the time takes the little off time from her job to spend time with you she does have an agenda. In truth so do we.

I also feel that 85% of the women on DC are at the very least semi pros. Why else would someone be willing to meet someone 20 plus years their Elder.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1956304] And you will sometimes hear the word tacao from these women because they want to guilt you into giving them money.[/QUOTE]Never heard this word TACAO. And can't find the translation. Is it slang for 'Cheap Charlie' ?

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;1956501]Never heard this word TACAO. And can't find the translation. Is it slang for 'Cheap Charlie' ?[/QUOTE]Correction software on ISG. Tacaño means cheap as you said.

[QUOTE=GrownMan.

I also feel that 85% of the women on DC are at the very least semi pros. Why else would someone be willing to meet someone 20 plus years their Elder.

Maybe they want me for my wisdom, distinguished looks and guitar-playing charm jajajjaajaajajaj.

Just a Sigmund thought here fellas. Feel free to test its merits / application based on your own perspective, observations, knowledge and experience. Men tend to focus and measure women using those terms. Pro, semi pro, non pro etc. But I have been thinking about this a minute. "For the most part". Men regardless of what we discern about a particular woman, men tend to be wired to pay for women. That currency may be our personal time, money, gifts, favors etc. A woman can be what we consider, a non pro or a semi pro, and enough men may still find a way to pay that woman directly or indirectly when he pursues her, when he's with her, or even just to keep connected to her on some level.

A friend of mine used an analogy I liked. He said men have a tendency to slap rocket boosters on women to help them get into orbit (obtain goals, supplement them etc). And as soon as the female gets where she needs to be, those rocket boosters (the mans help) break away, and now she can orbit / survive on her own. Even when a woman is a non pro struggling along in life. If she chooses to, she can usually depend on a man somewhere with a set of rocket boosters to propel her ahead or take up some slack in her life. The irony is, women can get that for doing absolutely nothing except for being a female. Point being, maybe it's not important to discern them as pros, non pros and semi pros.

Older men, especially those retired with plenty of paper, they are the most obvious types who can't wait to spend their money on women. Doesn't matter if she did anything to deserve it or not. The John / trick mentality is embedded in many of our brains and in our cultures. Often learned behavior, from birth on.

Many of us p4 p mongers, even if we get with a non pro, for some reason enough of us will want to turn it into a p4 p arrangement. Enough of us are not comfortable being around a woman unless we are paying for her, or supporting her in some way. Even if she doesn't ask, we'll find a way or an excuse to pay. We'll pay because she's going to school. We'll pay because she has a job. We'll pay because she didn't ask for money. We'll pay because of her living conditions. We'll pay with the hopes of keeping her interest, and away from other men.

We want to get a woman in the habit of receiving from us. That helps some of us feel secure with that female. A female that refuses anything can be somewhat of a challenege or create some discomfort for some men. Now we have to find out what she really wants being associated with us? Is she playing the long game? Maybe she wants children? Whatever it is, a man better find out what her angle is. Because many women are also wired to generally be in receive / entitlement mode when dealing with the opposite sex.

So to a certain degree, many not all women are going to be treated like a p4 p female regardless of what she represents outwardly. As pointed out here. Some guys know many NON pros are "playing" the good girl role. Not asking for anything, but hoping the man knows without asking that he should be paying. Many of us do not get the chance to see if a woman will drop you like a hot potato, because many of us never miss a payment when were dealing with females. Especially for fear of rejection, abandonment, or what many of us hate to hear, being called "cheap".

But when the association comes to an end, that's when it's more apparent, that unless a woman is being compensated (even if it's just feeding her ego) in some way, she really has no use for the male, or interest in the relationship / arrangement. A bored female can always take on more potential suitors. Guys have to be careful. A woman not accepting anything from you, doesn't mean she is NOT being compensated elsewhere.

Freeing her up to play the good girl "I don't need anything from you" role. With women, it's always about appearances. Thats why they always seem to be engrossed in changing theirs. They rely on deception, a mans ignorance and weaknesses for them. In many ways, a woman doesn't have to do anything. A man will fall right in line, misrepresenting his best interests when it comes to dealing with women.

In many if not most instances, we are generally dealing with p4 p females on some level, it's just the route each woman takes may be different. In the USA, it's mostly p4 p within the framework of relationships and marriage. But the p4 p aspect is nicely concealed and inter-woven into custom, accepted long term prostitution / p4 p, religion, self deception and denial.

As men we have choices. We can pay long term, short term, instantaneous, or refuse to play, or preferred for many, play sparingly, only as needed (without being totally wrapped up in sniffing behind women 24/7). Either method, we are generally wired to pay, slap rocket boosters on women, make sacrifices (often unnecessary) , waste time on behalf of women.

So perhaps, instead of us focusing heavily on whether a female is a pro, non pro or semi pro, maybe we ought to take a look at what we'll end up doing as we attempt to pursue a particular female. For many of us, by the time were done with her anyway, were going to try everything we are wired to do, to make her a p4 p female (or she always was) regardless of what we thought she was prior to us pursuing or getting involved. The main focus that matters, is when are we going to get what we pay for or want to pay for. The defining terminology probably doesn't really matter.

Nice explanation.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1956558]Just a Sigmund thought here fellas. Feel free to test its merits / application based on your own perspective, observations, knowledge and experience. Men tend to focus and measure women using those terms. Pro, semi pro, non pro etc. But I have been thinking about this a minute. "For the most part". Men regardless of what we discern about a particular woman, men tend to be wired to pay for women. That currency may be our personal time, money, gifts, favors etc. A woman can be what we consider, a non pro or a semi pro, and enough men may still find a way to pay that woman directly or indirectly when he pursues her, when he's with her, or even just to keep connected to her on some level.

A friend of mine used an analogy I liked. He said men have a tendency to slap rocket boosters on women to help them get into orbit (obtain goals, supplement them etc). And as soon as the female gets where she needs to be, those rocket boosters (the mans help) break away, and now she can orbit / survive on her own. Even when a woman is a non pro struggling along in life...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1956505]Correction software on ISG. Tacao means cheap as you said.[/QUOTE]I am glad Mr. E taught me this spanish word. While in the Sue the chicas were calling one of my boys it. He was determined on finding a girl for 500 pesos. They had a hard time trying to translate the word. When they asked me and I said cheapy cheapy the chicas busted out laughing shaking their heads in agreement. That's a new nickname for each other.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1956604]I am glad Mr. E taught me this spanish word. While in the Sue the chicas were calling one of my boys it. He was determined on finding a girl for 500 pesos. They had a hard time trying to translate the word. When they asked me and I said cheapy cheapy the chicas busted out laughing shaking their heads in agreement. That's a new nickname for each other.[/QUOTE]Or just rub your elbow. That's Dominican slang for the same thing as being cheap, without using words, just like the two fingers behind the head means you are the devil.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1956356]In my experience in dealing with non Pros that they want the same things the other chicas want. Nice purses, hair, clothes, perfume financial support ect. And though they're not selling ass per se, they are hoping their mates can make life easier. If she has a normal job she's usually working like a Hebrew slave. Not really making much even in the professional fields. But they do get to keep a little self respect. To me the difference is that the pro or semi pro and is going to ask you for the money straight up. So if a woman who works like a Hebrew slave all the time takes the little off time from her job to spend time with you she does have an agenda. In truth so do we.

I also feel that 85% of the women on DC are at the very least semi pros. Why else would someone be willing to meet someone 20 plus years their Elder.[/QUOTE]I have an older un / under employed chick (41) that I met on Dominican Cupid 2 yrs ago. She would come from Santiago by bus. Stay for 2 days and take the bus back. During her visit, I usually paid for everything. At the end of her visit, I would give some departing pesos. I never tested this, but I'm relatively certain that if I didn't give her money when it was time to leave, her whole attitude would change towards me. But as long as she felt compensated, the arrangement was mutually satisfying and it continued. On her end, she always made it seem like we had some sort of love going on. I got all of that syrupy shit.

Fast forward to today? We fell off from seeing each other over the last year. I kinda had that been there done that feeling with her. Plus I really got to peep her game a lot better when I started really paying attention. Although she did not appear to have a regular job, I noticed that she always changed her profile photos on whatsapp. These pics would be of her at a couple of beach resorts. Her MO was to visit resorts or beaches away from Santiago, and there she could meet men. She could play it any way she wanted with them. The end result is this was her hustle and way of getting paid.

In recent months she has been trying to sell me on the idea of wanting a "stable" relationship with me. Translation? That meant no sex with other females, only her. In other words, the cash flow would be going in only one direction, HERS. When I would tell her, I understood her interest in a stable relationship, I told her I too require something. I told her I only want a stable relationship with a woman with a job, that can take care of herself without me.

At some point we got into a debate on what a man should be doing for a woman. She had accused me (like so many guys can relate to) of ALWAYS thinking a woman wants me for my money.

She basically said she wasnt like those other women (I heard that enough times too). That she didn't want my money. However, she does believe that a man should provide the BASICS for a woman. That was explained as, food, help with rent, electricity, emergencies, anything a woman deemed necessary etc. A mans job according to her is to take care of HIS woman. Whatever that woman needs at the time, that should be your responsibility, because she is your woman. You are supposed to keep in mind, she does not want your money. When I brought it out that a man supplying the basics for a woman still requires him using his money, it didn't register or she didn't want to entertain that. All she knows is that she doesn't want a mans money, just that he provide the basics. LOL.

Last time we texted, I told her she should pay for everything this time. It was then she started telling me about her financial problems, and how she was waiting for something to come through on her end. Now wait a minute? She just got finished telling me she wants to come tomorrow to see me. I asked, how were you going to do that if you have no money? She said she was hoping that I was going to pay for her busfare. Well obviously that's not all I would be expected to pay for. So I told her, it's best that you don't come tomorrow. Come when you are better prepared to pay your way, just like I have done every time you've come. All I got from her was "Esta bien " Translation? I'll never see her if she has to pay or invest in the so called stable relationship she claims to want. Some of these chicks are so full of shit.

Good post WRX. It goes to what BQ told me after going through the full gamut with my La Vega girl. He said the screening process evolves around the ones who don't ask for anything long term. La Vega slow played it and was happy with my generosity when visiting. But after a few months she went all-in. Mom has cancer, baby sick, you don't care to send money don't talk to me. We didn't speak for two weeks then she sent me nude pictures with a " I'm sorry ". Two weeks later she was back to needing help with the hardships in the DR. She faded away thinking either I'm not the same nice guy anymore or the gringo got smart.

I have had maybe 20 girls I put in the number one spot over the last two years and only two are still communicating with me. It's funny but I think these girls have other gringo options and move me to the back of the line for when everything else dries up. Then you get that message out if nowhere that says " te extraño mi amor".

I understand more about how WRX thinks by hanging out with him. He goes directly to " Go" and has no need to go around the board. I like the chase, I like the interaction, I like having a female playing my game but for the time and money I put the into it, is it really worth it? For some it is but for some it isn't.

Right now I have two reliable girls who will come to me anywhere and will not ask for anything but I'm not cheap with them. I also have about five fake girlfriends who are slick and I have to check once every visit. But I also like a newbie to keep it fresh but most of them revert back to the standard " get gringo " mentality and that makes me not wanting anymore time with them.

P.S. Damn I miss Oakie and his interesting take on thing.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1956273]Non-pros for one day talking about a waste of time. If she's truly a non Pro and is trying to make an impression. Wining and dining her to only send her home because she's playing good girl is a waste of time for me. Spending all your time with her meanwhile looking at all the other pussy you can take right back to your room for half money you wasted not getting pussy. Talking about a torture vacation.[/QUOTE]LOL ID never torture myself like that. I'm speaking to a bunch of nice ones. Ill also sample a bit of p4 p. With nonpros its correct. Small window if they work and study. But also for them. Works both ways. Alot are or seem lonely there. They want to feel special. Want to be treated cool way. Want to feel like they have a chance to travel. I'm a good dream seller. And sometimes make it a reality if theyre worth it. I'm going back to Rio first. SD in January. I have alot of non-pro joy so to me SD doesn't seem that different from Rio.

A poor chic in Rio will need help like a poor one in SD.

Some will ask upfront which I don't do, some will ask for some during interaction and if its small sometimes I'm cool. Sometimes I'm not.

Some won't ask for shit. I still buy food, drinks. Some are just happy to be taken care of and out of environment.

Some fall you you etc. I always get to know my non-pros upfront for a while. Always works in Brazil. Pussy on 1st date or at the worst 2nd.

Why shd SD be any different to Rio i that sense? just as many hustlers there i think.
DR seems very poor but so is Brazil.

I'm gonnna dive in and roll same way I do in Rio.

I'm not going to do anything different. Just be cool but trust my instinct with girls. If I don't dig one, she gets a taxi and goodnight and i can hit a boate!.

What you do get in Brazil sometimes is the hot good girl who will save up her money for first date so she can help pay! I have never heard of that in DR!lol...UK either come to think of it.hahahah

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1956787]LOL ID never torture myself like that. I'm speaking to a bunch of nice ones. Ill also sample a bit of p4 p. With nonpros its correct. Small window if they work and study. But also for them. Works both ways. Alot are or seem lonely there. They want to feel special. Want to be treated cool way. Want to feel like they have a chance to travel. I'm a good dream seller. And sometimes make it a reality if theyre worth it. I'm going back to Rio first. SD in January. I have a lot of non-pro joy so to me SD doesn't seem that different from Rio.

A poor chic in Rio will need help like a poor one in SD.

Some will ask upfront which I don't do, some will ask for some during interaction and if its small sometimes I'm cool. Sometimes I'm not.[/QUOTE]No brother DR girls don't pay for shit. That's why Christopher Colombus kept sailing, the DR girls were trying to steal his gold. Now that I think about it; In the ten years in the DR I've gotten only one gift from a girl. I had this girl Anny that lived in Puerto Plata that could make flowers out of napkins. While we would wait for lunch at Tam Tam on the malecón she would grab a couple napkins and make a tulip and rose and give it to me.

Please don't compare the DR to Brazil because I don't want you lowering your guard and having bad experiences. Also be careful selling sweet stories, I've learned the hard way not to lay it on heavy. Girls become super possessive and crazy. I'm talking waiting outside in the bushes with a knife type of crazy. The play is to go in low key and slow roll it, you have two weeks. Coming in high and fast can expose you. Either way we are in for some good trip reports from you in January. Peace.

On my last trip the best sex I had came from the 2 girls I have known for over 5 years. Sister number 1 gave me one of the best BJ s I ever had. CIM and I had to pull her off the dick. I was surprised as I like to cum in pussy but this was exceptional. The last day in Sosua I ran into my first DR chica. She is the most passionate chica I have ever had. I am a very fit 60 but 2 a days for several days in row takes a toll. This girl had no quit in her. She wanted my leeche and would not stop until I popped. If you want good action you have to have some kind of relationship. Whether she is a pro or " good girl" the way you vibe together is what determines her desire to please you. I make an effort gain the chicas affection. If all you want is a quick nut then the casas will make your day. However if you want a quality experience take some time with the girls. I took a cute SW to the movies and had a meal. She tried to kill me with gratitude. I had make her stop.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1956645]Good post WRX. It goes to what BQ told me after going through the full gamut with my La Vega girl. He said the screening process evolves around the ones who don't ask for anything long term. La Vega slow played it and was happy with my generosity when visiting. But after a few months she went all-in. Mom has cancer, baby sick, you don't care to send money don't talk to me. We didn't speak for two weeks then she sent me nude pictures with a " I'm sorry ". Two weeks later she was back to needing help with the hardships in the DR. She faded away thinking either I'm not the same nice guy anymore or the gringo got smart.

I have had maybe 20 girls I put in the number one spot over the last two years and only two are still communicating with me. It's funny but I think these girls have other gringo options and move me to the back of the line for when everything else dries up. Then you get that message out if nowhere that says " te extrao mi amor".

I understand more about how WRX thinks by hanging out with him. He goes directly to " Go" and has no need to go around the board. I like the chase, I like the interaction, I like having a female playing my game but for the time and money I put the into it, is it really worth it? For some it is but for some it isn't.

Right now I have two reliable girls who will come to me anywhere and will not ask for anything but I'm not cheap with them. I also have about five fake girlfriends who are slick and I have to check once every visit. But I also like a newbie to keep it fresh but most of them revert back to the standard " get gringo " mentality and that makes me not wanting anymore time with them.

P.S. Damn I miss Oakie and his interesting take on thing.[/QUOTE]Mr G, what we consider long term in instances like what you described is nothing. Marriage to a woman for decades, now that's what I consider a LONG TERM hustle.

IMHO, women have the LONG TERM game mastered just as much as any SHORT TERM or Instantaneous Game. We know this to be true. The ultimate Long Term game It's called marriage. A woman can marry a man for decades, feed off of that man, maintain a faade of love and devotion, have children, acquire houses, go on vacations, go into business (and much more) until. She no longer wants to participate. Until she decides to cash in her chips.

The Long term were talking about here, dealing with these women aint nothing in comparison to the ultimate Long Term Game. I tend to believe, to protect our best interests we should stop measuring a womans sincerity by time frames and orchestrated impressions designed for our benefit.

Just deem women in general as being untrustworthy, with zero credibility. Anything they project at any given moment is only designed to make an impression. That impression is only valid for that moment, not a day, not a week, a month, certainly not a lifetime.

For instance, when I was younger out there trying to date in the US, me and my boys always got high off of little shit a female would do that we liked. As you can see, years later, many of us have not changed. We still are easily impressed over little shit. Now it's with poorer women.

If a chick, left a tip. If the chick paid the bill, or her share. If the chick leaned over to open my car door, If she had a job. If she drove a car. If she cooked, If she never asked for anything etc. We would be impressed and brag to each other over trivial shit like that. We would tell each other that we had a "good girl" or somebody worth building on. WTF?

Meanwhile all of that was pure delusion on our parts. We wanted to believe so much that what was represented was the womans character. We were boosted with pride for being the lucky sap that found this lovely creature. And now she was all mine. Or so we thought. Only goes to show, males / men can be just as emotional against their own best interests as females can be.

[b]A womans strength and focus is to make the appropriate impression to get the results she seeks. Being genuine is not necessarily important[/b]

The thing with women, enough of them tend to under estimate mens awareness of them, the game and life in general. Men for the most part, generally just want a fair deal. I do this for you, you do this for me. Barter and exchange. Unfortunately with women, once they see we like them, they get to see us enjoying ourselves with them, see us come good with them, they think that many of us are easy prey that they can exploit to the fullest. They don't realize that for many of us, our vulnerability is only a temporary condition for that moment or situation.

Common sense, and our self respect has not necessarily taken leave of absence. But for enough women I believe they think we are vulnerable and ripe to be tested further to see what they can get out of us. Some of us rationalize. Oh she's a good girl, she took care of me in the bedroom, she never asked for anything blah blah blah. None of that has anything to do with her having good character. That's just our delusional reasoning. over the success of the impression they made on us.

As men we love to reward women for just being human with us. As if the shit they do is so special. Our hope is, that a woman will appreciate what we do for them, and not do anything to fuck up the arrangement. But in most cases, they always do. Always fucking up a good thing. Always trying to take advantage of a mans generosity or good will. Which means, many of us realize that a relationship, and / or arrangement with a woman is always a seasonal endeavor. There is almost never anything permanent or everlasting.

The idea is to enjoy it while you can, don't get too emotionally attached, avoid giving more than what is / was earned ( BIG problem for many of us ) , let it go it's course until it comes to an end. Isn't that how all of our relationships and arangements have evolved? Beginning, middle and end. All we have to do is, be conscious enough to follow the flow, and calculate wisely what mode you are in with a female. Some situations end abruptly the moment the woman sees no benefit coming their way.

I don't know if you recall us having this convo, but also bear in mind, that guys that don't live in the country these women are, are treated or handled somewhat differently than guys that live there. A vacationing guy is probably 30 to 50% more likely to be hit with requests for shit, than a guy that lives there. Guys that don't live there, are more vulnerable because while away they are trying to maintain a connection with these women. A woman recognizes that interest and vulnerability. That connection, that mans interest in that woman, is the type of thing that a woman will tax you on. "oh you like me, huh?" "Oh shit, that's going to cost ya" You recall ever expressing liking a girl? The moment she saw you liked her, she started acting like you owed her or was entitled to benefits because of your like. . She feels free to come at you with her problems to solve.

When men reciprocate that syrupy shit that these women deluge us with, all of that is designed to weaken your NO power. Turn it into a yes. A maybe is acceptable, cause it at least pumps up her ego of the power she has over us. . At the very least, us thinking we have control by telling her, we'll see after we get back down there. The womans goal is to get you emotionally attached to her as soon as possible. If she can get you to assumje she is your GF or you her BF, she can attempt to manipulate you better.

The truth is, we are never responsible for their lives or problems, especially when we aren't there. For the most part, aint no Dominican or Haitian man approached with any of the BS that we get. And the women arent likely to try, except with one that may be weak. When any of these chicks claim they need 50 pesos or 200 pesos to get in a club, have you ever observed any ask any local guys standing around? Nope, but they'll march right up to us with no hesitation.. And quickly call us cheapy cheapy or any other known derogatory. The local man will look at that chick like she is fucking crazy. Meanwhile these local men may get more juice from these women than we do, for less money and effort or for barter and exchange.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1956645]

I have had maybe 20 girls I put in the number one spot over the last two years and only two are still communicating with me. It's funny but I think these girls have other gringo options and move me to the back of the line for when everything else dries up. Then you get that message out if nowhere that says " te extrao mi amor".

.[/QUOTE]The bottom line is, whoever is there at the moment, it is his / their turn. Any other guy in town or nearby, will be rotated and properly drained of his resources accordingly. Anybody sitting at home on his phone or computer is completely out of the loop. Remember Reverend IKE? You can send us $49.95 and I'll send you this cloth or holy water. This way you'll maintain your place in the eys of blankity blank.

This is how some guys get caught up sending money. They are hoping the offering will keep their memory with the woman alive. It is delusional for any of us to entertain any idea that we are the only source these women rely on or extract from. Some women like to brag about how many guys they have on the hook for WU or generous BFs.. Who all are thinking they are helping this poor soul, and keeping themselves relevant with her..

Here's a valid question. Of all of the 20 women you put in the number one spot, what spot did these women put you in? Especially in relation to all of the other men they may have been dealing with? My point is sometimes we pay more attention to OUR side of the issue than seeing things from their perspective, and concurrently.. And as you may recall a saying I use. "Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit." That applies to all parties.

All men need to look up Briffaults Law on YT. Or read a brief summary. After digesting that, one just might get a better understanding of how useless it is to expect more from associating with women than what we get. .

[QUOTE=OldKool;1956852]If you want good action you have to have some kind of relationship. Whether she is a pro or " good girl" the way you vibe together is what determines her desire to please you. I make an effort gain the chicas affection. If all you want is a quick nut then the casas will make your day. However if you want a quality experience take some time with the girls. I took a cute SW to the movies and had a meal. She tried to kill me with gratitude. I had make her stop.[/QUOTE]Where do you come up with this stuff? Now you have to vie for a hooker's affection by taking her to the movies and out to eat and dance (AND PAY HER) in order to get a good session? I thought the purpose of paying for pussy was so you did not have to do all of the courting - and could cut right to the chase. I have never done such as you recommend and damn near always get a stellar session; especially the ST sessions in GBP, which is a casa.

Last time I hit a chick who had only been there 1 week. I think she said she had made 7000 pesos so far. (Do the math: 7000 pesos/600 (I think that is her cut) pesos per session = roughly 11 sessions in 6 days, so 2 sessions per day. She could possibly make 28k pesos or US$600 in 1 month.)

She blew my socks off as they usually do. I started getting their number and having them come for 2000 LT after work or on Sundays when they are off if I have nothing else to do. Me and the bartender traded info and now she sends me messages when new girls come. I am still trying to get her to send me pictures of the new girls to no avail.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1956960]Where do you come up with this stuff? Now you have to vie for a hooker's affection by taking her to the movies and out to eat and dance (AND PAY HER) in order to get a good session? I thought the purpose of paying for pussy was so you did not have to do all of the courting - and could cut right to the chase. I have never done such as you recommend and damn near always get a stellar session; especially the ST sessions in GBP, which is a casa.

Last time I hit a chick who had only been there 1 week. I think she said she had made 7000 pesos so far. (Do the math: 7000 pesos/600 (I think that is her cut) pesos per session = roughly 11 sessions in 6 days, so 2 sessions per day. She could possibly make 28k pesos or US$600 in 1 month.)

She blew my socks off as they usually do. I started getting their number and having them come for 2000 LT after work or on Sundays when they are off if I have nothing else to do. Me and the bartender traded info and now she sends me messages when new girls come. I am still trying to get her to send me pictures of the new girls to no avail.[/QUOTE]I tend to look at women the way I do an electronic chess set. Any move you make on an electronic chess set, the machine will calculate it's own move. So when it comes to women, I don't see their movements, impressions and such as genuine interest or behavior. . I just look at it as them adapting to the moves we make.

Sort of like Matrix programming. Some women are good at attempting to fulfill a mans assumed fantasy. Others have no clue or interest in doing so. But one thing many of us should know about women in the DR. These women don't just like fucking, they love to fuck. Knowing that, I'm not impressed as I once was if I happen to have a good session. I don't readily associate it with something I did. I realize, women just like us, have their good days and their off days.

If anybody has ever paid close attention, that same woman that a guy wined and dined yesterday can be observed behaving the exact same way with another guy the next day, or the next hour. Laughing joking, frolicking, eating, drinking the whole nine. Of course enough guys don't get to see this, so they may assume there is something special about them or something they did. Women are masters of maintaining appearances and impressions. They are like extras in a movie. Blend in to the scene, and make everything look natural.

I tend to believe men are the ones that catch feelings quicker than these women do. The man is trying to give generously to reinforce good sex, and possibly a relationship/connection, and the woman is supplying sex to reinforce a man to continue paying generously. The sex in of itself is used for recreation and a means to an end/goal.

WRX you say we are never responsible for their lives or problems, and I agree. But then you say we have to figure out their perspective, which I disagree with. It's irrelevant what their perspective is, it's about how they present / perform the fantasy that I'm also presenting. I don't trust women so WU or marriage is a failed mission on their part.

Take how Mr E views things regarding Old Kool. Mr E is hardcore and believes that because he has paid that he can hump away while the girl lays there and be gone 30 minutes later. To him that qualifies as a good session. Old Kool presents more and something different so maybe while he is humping away she is even more interested in giving him a good session by humping him back. She might not rush, she may give him seconds and she maybe will sit by the phone waiting for Old Kool to call. When Mr E calls the girl might have the attitude like "Hell no!, but I need the money" its business but with Old Kool it's fun and exciting. I guarantee you if both these guys called Old Kool will be the guy she goes with 100 percent of the time.

I think some guys read too much into this by trying to bring other dynamics into the equation. We present a fantasy to get a fantasy plain and simple. We should adjust our techniques according to how far outside of this fantasy we are drifting (money spent, time, attitude problems etc). If her Dominican boyfriend calls, if she lied, is irrelevant as long as she sticks with my fantasy. Plus I expect other shit to present itself being she is a female. Some guys don't want the fantasy and just want to bust a nut, and I respect that, but I don't pay all the money and time to fly there to just bust a 20 minute nut. Some guys want an experience and we can create our own like we can't get at home. It's when you get outside the fantasy and deal with other shit that it becomes complicated.

Now when you live there it's no longer about the fantasy because you are living it. Naturally because you are connected you become more involved and the other dynamics take on more meaning. You become more cost conscious, you become more inquisitive, you have time to pay attention to normal shit and it's relation to you but as tourists we can keep it simple and fly to fantasy island for what we dream about at home.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1956997]WRX you say we are never responsible for their lives or problems, and I agree. But then you say we have to figure out their perspective, which I disagree with. It's irrelevant what their perspective is, it's about how they present / perform the fantasy that I'm also presenting. I don't trust women so WU or marriage is a failed mission on their part.[/QUOTE]You said I said we have to figure out their perspective, but you disagree. Can you be more specific on what perspective and the context or situation that I was talking about that we have to figure out?

[QUOTE]Take how Mr E views things regarding Old Kool. Mr E is hardcore and believes that because he has paid that he can hump away while the girl lays there and be gone 30 minutes later. To him that qualifies as a good session. Old Kool presents more and something different so maybe while he is humping away she is even more interested in giving him a good session by humping him back. She might not rush, she may give him seconds and she maybe will sit by the phone waiting for Old Kool to call. When Mr E calls the girl might have the attitude like "Hell no!, but I need the money" its business but with Old Kool it's fun and exciting. I guarantee you if both these guys called Old Kool will be the guy she goes with 100 percent of the time.[/QUOTE]That is a reasonable deduction based on what we think we know of how each man operates. However, I'm not quite sure I want to rely on that assumption alone.

Especially when I do not know all of the variables that can apply to why a female has gravitated to one particular guy and not another. Maybe there are things being done with these females were not privy to? I recall one of these men awhile ago claiming that he uses bait to lure women. I'm almost certain he was alluding to money, gifts, and whatever it would take to get the female motivated to take the bait. So yeah, if you include that as well as showing some chick a good time, it makes sense to deduce that that woman might gravitate to a certain guy. However, many of us might not go that route, and see that as something negative, not something positive. Meanwhile the guy who keeps it simple, he may be getting his fantasy met with another woman. It doesn't have to be the same woman that was lured by the other guy.

[QUOTE]I think some guys read too much into this by trying to bring other dynamics into the equation. We present a fantasy to get a fantasy plain and simple. We should adjust our techniques according to how far outside of this fantasy we are drifting (money spent, time, attitude problems etc). If her Dominican boyfriend calls, if she lied, is irrelevant as long as she sticks with my fantasy. Plus I expect other shit to present itself being she is a female. Some guys don't want the fantasy and just want to bust a nut, and I respect that, but I don't pay all the money and time to fly there to just bust a 20 minute nut. Some guys want an experience and we can create our own like we can't get at home. It's when you get outside the fantasy and deal with other shit that it becomes complicated.[/QUOTE]For the most part, I think it all boils down to each man has a right to operate the way he sees fit for himself. If one guy wants to keep things simple, present a fantasy to get a fantasy, that should be his perogative. If another guy chooses to bring other dynamics into the equation, for whatever reason that is his as well. Just because each man sees another mans pursuits as complicated or simplistic, that doesn't mean it is SO for that individual.

I get it, that we all operate differently. You know what works for you. But by the same token, nobody can define what someone elses experiences or pursuit represents for them. Nor should they to you. Ol Kools style is his. Mr E's style is his. My style is mine. The last thing we need is for anyone to tell us what our style / technique/lifestyle represents to us, just because they have a different style / technique/lifestyle. Nobodys MO directly affects another. Does it matter if one sees or does things one way, and another sees and does things differently?

[QUOTE]Now when you live there it's no longer about the fantasy because you are living it. Naturally because you are connected you become more involved and the other dynamics take on more meaning. You become more cost conscious, you become more inquisitive, you have time to pay attention to normal shit and it's relation to you but as tourists we can keep it simple and fly to fantasy island for what we dream about at home.[/QUOTE]That statement almost reads like, now that expats have more stuff on their plates, those guys that live there don't keep things simple like us guys on vacation. My question would be to anyone feeling similarly, is how do you know that the guys that live in fantasy island arent fully enjoying the simplistics you and other vacationers enjoy as well as the extra dynamics associated with living in the DR? Maybe some folks are more communicative and expressive than one expects. That doesn't mean they make things complicated. Or cant also enjoy simplistic mongering, while also relating to those on vacation?.

Metaphorically speaking, why can't expats walk and chew gum at the same time. LOL Moreover, I see many guys on vacation spending quality time talking to expats, gathering information in contemplation of moving to the DR. For those individuals, expats provide a valuable resource for men that need good intel. In enough instances, many men have started to make adjustments in their behavior and how they operate based on what they may have learned. I always think it's a good idea not to define someone elses reality or what someone elses perspective means to them. Because what is assumed or observed may not be the whole picture of what individuals experience or relate to. For instance, nobody can tell me what life represents to me living in Sosua just because they wouldnt do it. Whenever i hear guys claim how bored they get after 3 days in Sosua, and that there isnt anything to do, I tune that out. Their perspective is not my reality.

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[QUOTE=MrGogo;1956997]Take how Mr E views things regarding Old Kool. Mr E is hardcore and believes that because he has paid that he can hump away while the girl lays there and be gone 30 minutes later. To him that qualifies as a good session. Old Kool presents more and something different so maybe while he is humping away she is even more interested in giving him a good session by humping him back. She might not rush, she may give him seconds and she maybe will sit by the phone waiting for Old Kool to call. When Mr E calls the girl might have the attitude like "Hell no!, but I need the money" its business but with Old Kool it's fun and exciting. I guarantee you if both these guys called Old Kool will be the guy she goes with 100 percent of the time.[/QUOTE]But for some reason that example falsely assumes that my girl does not hump me back and Old Kool's girl does. I posted pictures of when I went to the GBP chick before the last house. Another GBP chick invited my boy to stay at her house in Santiago. I don't know why they would do that for some clown they met in a short time session that they just needed the quick money from.

I don't get into the Pretty Woman Syndrome. I would rather date chicks that I don't have to pay and pay hookers for fucking. I don't hire a maid and take her to the movies beforehand, thinking now she will get my house extra clean. No. I want her to immediately get down to what she was hired for. If she does a good job then I will hire her again. If not, then I will look for a new maid.

And you don't know. Old Kool's girl may be thinking this mf is going to try to make me spend the whole day with him for these funky 1000 pesos. If I go with Mr E then it will only take me 30 minutes to get the 1000 pesos that I need then I can be on my way.

It reminds me of when people say they get great sessions from chicks because they tip. How can they attribute the great session to a tip when A) the tip is generally given after the session and B) they have no control trial to compare it to where they experienced a session with the girl when they gave no tip? So while Old Kool attributes a chick knocking his socks off to him taking her to the movies, a chick from my short time session must be knocking my socks off because she either likes me, she is getting money, she is a great service provider and takes pride in her work. I honestly do not know what they could do better if I took them to the movies or out to eat. Maybe they would give extra suction while my dick was in their mouth.

By the way, you get 1 hour at GBP for 1200 pesos. What a bargain!

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1956997]Take how Mr E views things regarding Old Kool. Mr E is hardcore and believes that because he has paid that he can hump away while the girl lays there and be gone 30 minutes later. To him that qualifies as a good session. Old Kool presents more and something different so maybe while he is humping away she is even more interested in giving him a good session by humping him back. She might not rush, she may give him seconds and she maybe will sit by the phone waiting for Old Kool to call. When Mr E calls the girl might have the attitude like "Hell no!, but I need the money" its business but with Old Kool it's fun and exciting. I guarantee you if both these guys called Old Kool will be the guy she goes with 100 percent of the time[/QUOTE]As you can see, Mr E took some exception to your assessment. Most folks might take exception to being compartmentalized like that or to have someone else tell them what their alleged perspective / MO supposedly represents to that person or other people relating to them.

QUOTE=Mr Enternational; honestly do not know what they could do better if I took them to the movies or out to eat. Maybe they would give extra suction while my dick was in their mouth. QUOTE.

Hi E, you have a good point. My #1 squeeze in SD is paid handsomely paid (4 K) but she never lets me take her to movies or dinner even though I would like to. Or maybe she really doesn't want to be seen with me outside of the hotel. I dunno. But I always bring her a nice 42 DDD bra because she can't seem to find one that fits her there. She must be married or something because she only stays an hour. But what an hour it is! Aye yi yi she is so beautiful caramel skin so smooth and so stacked and she seems to enjoy being filmed. She is 27. My #2 squeeze is even more stacked but a little heavier and only 21. Jet black and pretty face. Dios mio her 44 DDDs smother me and she lets me take pics but no video. I have taken her to dinner and dancing but her policeman father doesn't let her stay the night. I pay her 2 - 3 K for a few hours and she is worth it. My #3 squeeze is a super sexy vanilla Venezuelan 32 years old 36 D but alas six months pregnant (it wasn't me). I have taken her to dinner and movies a couple of times and she spent the night for 2 K. But I will pass on her when I am there in a couple of weeks until after she has the baby. She loves being filmed on her knees with my schwantztooka in her mouth. Can't wait to see her next May and get some of that mama milk. I've got some other new cupid chicas lined up for my visit 12 - 19 November so we'll see how that goes. This time I'm staying at Maison Gautreaux which others have reported is only a one star so if its really bad I'll transfer and splurge at Crowne Plaza just up the same block. If anyone wants to hang for beer and cigars during the day just PM me but I'm not into the casas. Cheers from the Santo Domingo gringo.

[QUOTE] I think some guys read too much into this by trying to bring other dynamics into the equation. We present a fantasy to get a fantasy plain and simple. [/QUOTE]Guys get very confused about these things. The women you meet are for the most part in the business of exchanging sex for money, but there are still a hell of a lot of stipulations when it comes to fantasy fulfillment in terms of what they will or won't do and YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY. Some of the girls will do anything that they think is safe in exchange for money, while others try to maintain an element of self respect by fooling themselves into thinking they are in a romantic relationship, and a large number, probably the majority, fall somewhere in-between.

Others will be more willing to enter into sex for money if they think they are going to enjoy the sex. I remember some conversations involving chicas who were talking to other chicas and did not realise that I am fluent in Spanish, when for example a girl was describing how her date of last night enjoyed performing oral sex on her all night, together with grimaces and wriggling and laughing, or another girl who worked in a salon had just lined up a date for that evening with a very good looking young German guy and was grabbing her pussy and boasting that she was going to get fucked good and proper tonight.

The majority of girls, I would say, would like a date with a good looking guy with good manners, speaking Spanish being a plus, but most of the time they have to settle for less. When it comes to fantasy fulfillment, you really have to take it on a case by case basis. For example if you want two girls to perform lesbian sex together, there will be many stipulations regarding whom they will do it with and what they will do. For example a girl may be perfectly happy bringing another girl off by touching her pussy with her hand, but will absolutely refuse to perform oral sex on her. "There is no way I am putting my mouth where another woman pisses. ".

So the bottom line is yes, money will get you into these girls' panties, but what happens next and how enjoyable it is and whether it fulfills your fantasies depends on a multitude of other factors that are functions of how you and she relate together. Personally I have always got the best results by talking dirty or talking about sex before doing anything with a girl to find out about her attitudes and what turns her on, what kind of experience she has, what was her best sexual experience ever, and so on. Even if they don't always tell the truth, it seems to make them horny talking about sexual fantasies, and it is always fun to talk one into something she has never done before when you can see that she is acting reluctant, but fascinated and excited by the idea.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1957632]Personally I have always got the best results by talking dirty or talking about sex before doing anything with a girl to find out about her attitudes and what turns her on, what kind of experience she has, what was her best sexual experience ever, and so on.[/QUOTE]It still begs the question of how you know that is what caused you to have the best results if you never NOT did it. No control trial.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1957702]It still begs the question of how you know that is what caused you to have the best results if you never NOT did it. No control trial.[/QUOTE]You are overthinking it. I am just saying that making sure that the chica is on board with whatever your fantasy about her might be is usually the best strategy. There are plenty of reports on these boards of guys being disappointed when a girl won't do oral sex without condom, anal sex, girl-on-girl threesome activity, and so on. In those cases it is nearly always because they have made assumptions about what the chica will do without getting advance confirmation and enthusiastic consent. Similarly in those situations where the girl is taken for all night and then leaves early, it would be worth while to agree on what time she will leave, discuss what other commitments she might have the next morning, such as child care, if any, and so on.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1957854]You are overthinking it. I am just saying that making sure that the chica is on board with whatever your fantasy about her might be is usually the best strategy. There are plenty of reports on these boards of guys being disappointed when a girl won't do oral sex without condom, anal sex, girl-on-girl threesome activity, and so on. In those cases it is nearly always because they have made assumptions about what the chica will do without getting advance confirmation and enthusiastic consent. Similarly in those situations where the girl is taken for all night and then leaves early, it would be worth while to agree on what time she will leave, discuss what other commitments she might have the next morning, such as child care, if any, and so on.[/QUOTE]But Frannie, therein lies the problem: thinking a Dominican hooker will stick to an agreement.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1957864]But Frannie, therein lies the problem: thinking a Dominican hooker will stick to an agreement.[/QUOTE]That is the whole point of negotiating carefully before committing. It gives you a chance to get a feel for the character and personality of the girl and whether you and she have any kind of rapport, shared sense of humor, and so on. Of course there are some who will not stick to an agreement, but if you are a skilled chica-picker, you should be able to improve your odds. Having said that, personally I do tend to prefer Haitianas to Dominicanas, but I don't think you can automatically assume they are more trustworthy.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1957987]... personally I do tend to prefer Haitianas to Dominicanas, but I don't think you can automatically assume they are more trustworthy.[/QUOTE]They are definitely more trustworthy on the average. I assume you meant to write "not [U]all[/U] more trustworthy". The only bad ones I have come across were in Sosua. Never a problem with Pto Pta haitianas.

Then ask if anyone knows her?

I have been communicating with 2 women in the DR and one in Cali. Before I make any travel plans, I would like to know if any of them have a "reputation. ".

I would not post nude photos (out of respect for them). Only photos that show their face and clothed body. What is the protocol for doing this type of "investigation?

[QUOTE=RobbyBurns;1959326]I have been communicating with 2 women in the DR and one in Cali. Before I make any travel plans, I would like to know if any of them have a "reputation. "[/QUOTE]Why would you care? If you do not have to pay her then that would be more power to you. If you do have to pay her then wouldn't that be enough to tell you?

There are so few people that post mongering reports on Santo Domingo so the chances are approaching 0 that someone here would know her. Santo Domingo is no Sosua or Boca Chica where one could see her passing by on the strip every 10 minutes. If you like her then like her for how she treats you, not for who you want her to be. Are you telling her about the other girl in Santo Domingo or the girl in Cali? Maybe she should ask around about you.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1959331]Why would you care? If you do not have to pay her then that would be more power to you. If you do have to pay her then wouldn't that be enough to tell you?

There are so few people that post mongering reports on Santo Domingo so the chances are approaching 0 that someone here would know her. Santo Domingo is no Sosua or Boca Chica where one could see her passing by on the strip every 10 minutes. If you like her then like her for how she treats you, not for who you want her to be. Are you telling her about the other girl in Santo Domingo or the girl in Cali? Maybe she should ask around about you.[/QUOTE]I have already violated Rule #1. I have sent each of then a little bit of money, because I felt that a "compassionate investment" might make it easier for me when--or IF--I go to visit them.

They can ask around about me all they want, but since I have not become involved with any other women there would be nothing to "find out" about me.

I just don't want to become more involved with a woman who might be a known P4 P player. I met all 3 of them on Latina Cupida, and my conversations with them are--at the very least--helping me to improve my Spanish.

I will only be able to take one vacation within the next few months, so I am trying to decide which country it is better to go to. Of the two in the DR, one is in Santo Domingo and the other is in San Francisco de Macoris.

Thank you for your quick reply, Mr. E.

[QUOTE=RobbyBurns;1959347]I have already violated Rule #1. I have sent each of then a little bit of money, because I felt that a "compassionate investment" might make it easier for me when--or IF--I go to visit them.

I just don't want to become more involved with a woman who might be a known P4 P player. [/QUOTE]Well Brother if it was not a P4P thing before, you have definitely made it out to be by sending money. Remember, however the relationship starts out that is how it has to continue to be. And that shit you did was short lived. Chicks that dudes send money to do not have a long term memory. When that little money runs out they have forgotten about you unless you are sending more. Nobody is going to continue returning to a dry well. You have to keep the supply lines open once you have gone in that direction. There is no such thing as a one-time payment when you become a Western Union boyfriend. That is why it is smarter to only pay as you go in person.

As much as I hate reality shows, I love watching 90-Day Fiance. I guess it is because of traveling around getting to know different cultures, being a player, and being in P4P, that that show really hits home. I see the shit coming a mile away.

One scenario has a guy from California who imports a chick from Russia. This guy has lured this chick with money and she has him wrapped around her finger. She shows up in LA and he is driving an Audi R8 but is homeless. She flat out told this dude she needed an expensive purse, a $35000 wedding dress, and $10000 per month to be happy. She also asked him how could you possibly get a woman that looks like me without money?

This biotch don't have a pot to whizz in and is a dime a dozen where she comes from. She is able to find a lonely first world sucker who is able to use money to get in the door, but is not able to keep up with the financial demands of this 3rd world chick even in the short term. They went from staying in a hotel and finally got an apartment. She does not have a job to pay for shit but was able to expel this mf to the couch and thereafter even make his ass get out of the apartment. He is begging her to let him back into the shit that he is paying for.

And he can't send the chick back to Russia because he don't want to look like a used up gullible dumb ass by his friends and family, so he wants to hold on to the money pit that does not give 2 shits about him. Lesson to be learned.

In truth ask your self ask why are these girls interested in being with me. Is it my dashing good looks or personality or maybe my money. End of the day it does not matter. As long as your are getting what you want go with it. Life is short enjoy the time with a pretty young thing that is willing to bang your brains out. If you think baiting the hook with a few bucks works go for it. Everyone has there own way of hooking up. There are no rules in this game accept the ones you set for your self.

[QUOTE=RobbyBurns;1959326]Then ask if anyone knows her?

I have been communicating with 2 women in the DR and one in Cali. Before I make any travel plans, I would like to know if any of them have a "reputation. ".

I would not post nude photos (out of respect for them). Only photos that show their face and clothed body. What is the protocol for doing this type of "investigation?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1959420]In truth ask your self ask why are these girls interested in being with me. Is it my dashing good looks or personality or maybe my money. End of the day it does not matter. As long as your are getting what you want go with it. Life is short enjoy the time with a pretty young thing that is willing to bang your brains out. If you think baiting the hook with a few bucks works go for it. Everyone has there own way of hooking up. There are no rules in this game accept the ones you set for your self.[/QUOTE]That is exactly right Old Kool. But he must also ask himself what does he want with the girl. If he just wants something to poke on then why go through all the bullshit investigations. If he wants something more meaningful with her, then if she is a quality woman he would not even have to do any investigation. The type of woman she really is will stand out. I have never heard of a quality woman anywhere accepting money from men via Western Union that she did not know. That is some scamming hooker shit. It is smarter to show up and pay on the spot. No need in putting a deposit down on a hooker.

I explain to chicks in the USA all the time that if they want a man then the time to bag him is when they are young. Time is not on their side. For a man, with time his money should increase. As we get older we can always buy the chick that we want.

For a woman, her beauty and youth decreases with time. So if she has not found that man by a certain age then she can pretty much get used to being a lonely old lady because men in her age bracket will be chasing after younger pussy with their accumulated financial means. Of course they get angry at this but it is the honest truth.

You will see some older foreign women hanging around in the DR who also have the shit figured out. If they are older and have some money they can likewise buy the young dick that they want. But nobody is trying to chill with an older chick who brings nothing to the table but a worn out saggy pussy.

[QUOTE=RobbyBurns;1959326]Then ask if anyone knows her?

I have been communicating with 2 women in the DR and one in Cali. Before I make any travel plans, I would like to know if any of them have a "reputation. ".

I would not post nude photos (out of respect for them). Only photos that show their face and clothed body. What is the protocol for doing this type of "investigation?[/QUOTE]Anyone sending you nudes and accepiting money online isn't serious. Its P4 P in its many variations.

FRancisco De Macoris girl wouldn't happen to be called Yolanny?

Very good, Mr. E. The expiration date is around 30 I reckon. Give or take five. Then desperation sets in.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1959437]
I explain to chicks in the USA all the time that if they want a man then the time to bag him is when they are young. Time is not on their side. For a man, with time his money should increase. As we get older we can always buy the chick that we want.

For a woman, her beauty and youth decreases with time. So if she has not found that man by a certain age then she can pretty much get used to being a lonely old lady because men in her age bracket will be chasing after younger pussy with their accumulated financial means. Of course they get angry at this but it is the honest truth.

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Are the cases still open in Santo Domingo? On avenida Pasteur? I was told they were all closed down.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1957632]Guys get very confused about these things. The women you meet are for the most part in the business of exchanging sex for money, but there are still a hell of a lot of stipulations when it comes to fantasy fulfillment in terms of what they will or won't do and YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY. Some of the girls will do anything that they think is safe in exchange for money, while others try to maintain an element of self respect by fooling themselves into thinking they are in a romantic relationship, and a large number, probably the majority, fall somewhere in-between.

Others will be more willing to enter into sex for money if they think they are going to enjoy the sex. I remember some conversations involving chicas who were talking to other chicas and did not realise that I am fluent in Spanish, when for example a girl was describing how her date of last night enjoyed performing oral sex on her all night, together with grimaces and wriggling and laughing, or another girl who worked in a salon had just lined up a date for that evening with a very good looking young German guy and was grabbing her pussy and boasting that she was going to get fucked good and proper tonight.

The majority of girls, I would say, would like a date with a good looking guy with good manners, speaking Spanish being a plus, but most of the time they have to settle for less. When it comes to fantasy fulfillment, you really have to take it on a case by case basis. For example if you want two girls to perform lesbian sex together, there will be many stipulations regarding whom they will do it with and what they will do. For example a girl may be perfectly happy bringing another girl off by touching her pussy with her hand, but will absolutely refuse to perform oral sex on her. "There is no way I am putting my mouth where another woman pisses. ".

So the bottom line is yes, money will get you into these girls' panties, but what happens next and how enjoyable it is and whether it fulfills your fantasies depends on a multitude of other factors that are functions of how you and she relate together. Personally I have always got the best results by talking dirty or talking about sex before doing anything with a girl to find out about her attitudes and what turns her on, what kind of experience she has, what was her best sexual experience ever, and so on. Even if they don't always tell the truth, it seems to make them horny talking about sexual fantasies, and it is always fun to talk one into something she has never done before when you can see that she is acting reluctant, but fascinated and excited by the idea.[/QUOTE]Excellent excellent excellent opinion. A must-read for all newbies who have fantasies about women in the Dr

Preparing my next visit for Feb. 2017.

Island life backpackers' hostel is #1 on TripAdvisor for alternative hotels in SD.

Anyone has been there? Is it chica friendly?

Same for #2 La choza guesthouse? Any advice?

#3 is Hotel Saint Nicolas, but I could read lately on this thread that it's good and GF also.

Thanks in advance. I'll report when there.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;1960699] Island life backpackers' hostel[/QUOTE]Please forget my previous request. They all seem to be NOT GF, as we can read in these hotel rules.

Anybody has some info on this pretty good place for 60 $ in zona colonial?

Chica friendly?

I'm also looking for a hotel in zona colonial or very near walking distance, that has appartment with 2 separate king size bed bedrooms, under 140 $/ night.

This would be for 2 buddies, bringing chicas in room.

Any advice?

Thanks in advance.

Try Savoy for hotel. If you read the forum you would already know that.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;1960741]Anybody has some info on this pretty good place for 60 $ in zona colonial?

Chica friendly?

I'm also looking for a hotel in zona colonial or very near walking distance, that has appartment with 2 separate king size bed bedrooms, under 140 $/ night.

This would be for 2 buddies, bringing chicas in room.

Any advice?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=DCups;1960749]Try Savoy for hotel. If you read the forum you would already know that.

.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for your answer, but Savoy hotel doesn't offer 2 seperate bedrooms appartments, even the suites.

One of my favorite Venezuelan chicas thinks she can make money in the DR (and she just might!). Anyone know this place?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1959361]Well Brother if it was not a P4P thing before, you have definitely made it out to be by sending money. Remember, however the relationship starts out that is how it has to continue to be. And that shit you did was short lived. Chicks that dudes send money to do not have a long term memory. When that little money runs out they have forgotten about you unless you are sending more. Nobody is going to continue returning to a dry well. You have to keep the supply lines open once you have gone in that direction. There is no such thing as a one-time payment when you become a Western Union boyfriend. That is why it is smarter to only pay as you go in person.

As much as I hate reality shows, I love watching 90-Day Fiance. I guess it is because of traveling around getting to know different cultures, being a player, and being in P4P, that that show really hits home. I see the shit coming a mile away.

One scenario has a guy from California who imports a chick from Russia. This guy has lured this chick with money and she has him wrapped around her finger. She shows up in LA and he is driving an Audi R8 but is homeless. She flat out told this dude she needed an expensive purse, a $35000 wedding dress, and $10000 per month to be happy..[/QUOTE]Is Russia second world?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1957235]But for some reason that example falsely assumes that my girl does not hump me back and Old Kool's girl does. I posted pictures of when I went to the GBP chick before the last house. Another GBP chick invited my boy to stay at her house in Santiago. I don't know why they would do that for some clown they met in a short time session that they just needed the quick money from.

I don't get into the Pretty Woman Syndrome. I would rather date chicks that I don't have to pay and pay hookers for fucking. I don't hire a maid and take her to the movies beforehand, thinking now she will get my house extra clean. No. I want her to immediately get down to what she was hired for. If she does a good job then I will hire her again. If not, then I will look for a new maid.

And you don't know. Old Kool's girl may be thinking this mf is going to try to make me spend the whole day with him for these funky 1000 pesos. If I go with Mr E then it will only take me 30 minutes to get the 1000 pesos that I need then I can be on my way...[/QUOTE]The DR and BKK is different. Long time is generally 2+ hrs. I had a thick 21 year old (BKK) who preferred long time. Maybe she was having a slow down with business. It wasn't the best deal because she was getting $15 USD to sleep and not worrying about the hassle of finding another paying farang in the wee hours of the night. Long time means you have to be alert so the girl doesn't get tempted with pick pocketing you. All girls aren't going to appreciate than meal and movie. Popular beauties know they can jungle multiple dates and treat their boyfriends to dinner from your donation. I tip over 80% of the time but YMMV. The provider may give men from certain age groups or ethnic backgrounds better service because of her stereotypes. For instance she could give a white farang better service who didn't tip than the Indian who tip. Nothing is set in stone. Tipping is discretionary. Some punters have spoiled the staff so much that the mamasan solicits tips.

[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1961192]One of my favorite Venezuelan chicas thinks she can make money in the DR (and she just might!). Anyone know this place?[/QUOTE]Read my report from last month.

[QUOTE=Cool;1961217]Is Russia second world?[/QUOTE]Hell no. I have been to Russia. There are more SUVs and luxury automobiles there than you can shake a stick at. And the place is expensive as all get out.

[QUOTE=Cool;1961223]The DR and BKK is different. Long time is generally 2+ hrs. I had a thick 21 year old (BKK) who preferred long time. Maybe she was having a slow down with business. It wasn't the best deal because she was getting $15 USD to sleep and not worrying about the hassle of finding another paying farang in the wee hours of the night. Long time means you have to be alert so the girl doesn't get tempted with pick pocketing you.[/QUOTE]For the record, I have never heard of a normal FL Thai hooker stealing a punter's shit. The thieves are the ladyboys and the middle age women who work in teams and ask older guys to do threesomes. You can see these examples weekly in the online news. Me and board member FLHawk left out of a gogo and were walking down Walking Street Sunday night. A Thai girl chased me down to give me some money that I had dropped. Now in the DR you better bolt your shit down. Those hookers will wipe you out per the many examples online.

Beginning my excursion.

Airfare from Las Americas (SDQ) to Atlanta is sometimes $300.00 less than from Gregorio Luperon (POP) so recently I have been departing from Santo Domingo to return to the United States. I got an apartment off airbnb at Villa Marabella on the Malecon with a decent view. This was the second time I got the same apartment and I enjoyed my stay.

This trip I hooked up with one of my semi pros she is a cool person and the sex was decent but she was in a rush because of her child care situation so I didn't enjoy the session as much as I could have. The next day I cruised the Malecon and found some street meat. She had a banging body but her face wasn't anything to brag about. I met her on Avenida Indepencia & Avenida Pasture. She started at 2500 pesos and settled for 1500 pesos. When we arrived at the apartment she demanded the money up front. I started putting my clothes back on and she relented. BBBJ and sex were pretty decent in fact I gave her 2000 pesos I was satisfied. The next day I headed back to the States.

Back in the Dominican Republic.

My visit to the United States was very productive and I accomplished all of my goals. While I was there I continued to work Facebook and caught some interesting fish. I left a very dry United States only to return to a very wet Dominican Republic. I am grateful for Ms. Google giving me directions throughout my travels without her I would truly be lost.

Traffic was horrendous in downtown Santo Domingo as usual I was on the main highway out of the city which was at a stand still so Ms. Google directs me off the highway for an incredible journey. First there are many major intersections that do not have traffic signals which makes navigating those intersections a nightmare. After making it through several intersections with no traffic signals I was lead to the detour which was blocked by AMET. Now I am lost somewhere in Santo Domingo and I have no idea where I am. WTF?

As I am driving through a barrio that seriously looked like bombed out Bagdad I saw a string across the road that was lowered to let a vehicle ahead of me pass. As I moved forward the string was lifted to block the road and someone approached my drivers side window with a cup in hand soliciting money I could not understand what he was saying nor did I let down the window and kept inching toward the string blocking the road after which it was lowered and I continued on my way. My LE mind kicked in and I thought that would be an excellent way to rob unsuspecting travelers of their money or their vehicles and I considered myself to be fortunate.

I made it back to Puerto Plata safely even though at times due to the heavy rain I could not see 10 feet in front of me. I arrived with the thought I enjoy the liberty I have travelling throughout the Island however I may take a look at Carribe Tours again for some of my travel going forward.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1961640]I made it back to Puerto Plata safely even though at times due to the heavy rain I could not see 10 feet in front of me. I arrived with the thought I enjoy the liberty I have travelling throughout the Island however I may take a look at Carribe Tours again for some of my travel going forward.[/QUOTE]Why didn't you take the toll road?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1961643]Why didn't you take the toll road?[/QUOTE]I was on the main highway out of the city I don't recall the name and traffic was at a stand still so I simply followed the instructions of Google, however the GPS had no way of knowing the AMET detour.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1961640]
As I am driving through a barrio that seriously looked like bombed out Bagdad I saw a string across the road that was lowered to let a vehicle ahead of me pass. As I moved forward the string was lifted to block the road and someone approached my drivers side window with a cup in hand soliciting money I could not understand what he was saying nor did I let down the window and kept inching toward the string blocking the road after which it was lowered and I continued on my way. My LE mind kicked in and I thought that would be an excellent way to rob unsuspecting travelers of their money or their vehicles and I considered myself to be fortunate.

[/QUOTE]I'm sure this can be very disconcerting, especially in a bad neighborhood, looking very much like the proverbial highway robbery. I did read about description of this local practice, on a travelogue on DR1. Excerpt in the screenshots attached. Notice the girls holding the ropes and the signs explaining their causes.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1961652]I was on the main highway out of the city I don't recall the name and traffic was at a stand still so I simply followed the instructions of Google, however the GPS had no way of knowing the AMET detour.[/QUOTE]I'm talking about the JP2 out near the airport. It is 1.5 hours faster to get to Puerto Plata than going up DR1 through Santiago.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1961640]Beginning my excursion.

Airfare from Las Americas (SDQ) to Atlanta is sometimes $300.00 less than from Gregorio Luperon (POP) so recently I have been departing from Santo Domingo to return to the United States. I got an apartment off airbnb at Villa Marabella on the Malecon with a decent view. This was the second time I got the same apartment and I enjoyed my stay.

This trip I hooked up with one of my semi pros she is a cool person and the sex was decent but she was in a rush because of her child care situation so I didn't enjoy the session as much as I could have. The next day I cruised the Malecon and found some street meat. She had a banging body but her face wasn't anything to brag about. I met her on Avenida Indepencia & Avenida Pasture. She started at 2500 pesos and settled for 1500 pesos. When we arrived at the apartment she demanded the money up front. I started putting my clothes back on and she relented. BBBJ and sex were pretty decent in fact I gave her 2000 pesos I was satisfied. The next day I headed back to the States.

Back in the Dominican Republic.

My visit to the United States was very productive and I accomplished all of my goals. While I was there I continued to work Facebook and caught some interesting fish. I left a very dry United States only to return to a very wet Dominican Republic. I am grateful for Ms. Google giving me directions throughout my travels without her I would truly be lost.

Traffic was horrendous in downtown Santo Domingo as usual I was on the main highway out of the city which was at a stand still so Ms. Google directs me off the highway for an incredible journey. First there are many major intersections that do not have traffic signals which makes navigating those intersections a nightmare. After making it through several intersections with no traffic signals I was lead to the detour which was blocked by AMET. Now I am lost somewhere in Santo Domingo and I have no idea where I am. WTF?

As I am driving through a barrio that seriously looked like bombed out Bagdad I saw a string across the road that was lowered to let a vehicle ahead of me pass. As I moved forward the string was lifted to block the road and someone approached my drivers side window with a cup in hand soliciting money I could not understand what he was saying nor did I let down the window and kept inching toward the string blocking the road after which it was lowered and I continued on my way. My LE mind kicked in and I thought that would be an excellent way to rob unsuspecting travelers of their money or their vehicles and I considered myself to be fortunate.

I made it back to Puerto Plata safely even though at times due to the heavy rain I could not see 10 feet in front of me. I arrived with the thought I enjoy the liberty I have travelling throughout the Island however I may take a look at Carribe Tours again for some of my travel going forward.[/QUOTE]Hey Camaro. I feel likewise about these high ass airfares to and from POP. And they do not seem to be coming back down as fast as they used to later on in the year. I have used public transportation (Caribe Tours and Cibao Transporte) to get to STI. Flew out and back to STI. Using SDQ to go back and forth is even cheaper. It's just the effort, time, added potential risk of problems on the road, and the total expense between the north coast and SDQ can be an issue.

Staying in SD a day or two, and make it a mini excursion may make it easier and enjoyable. But still I wonder will it be worth it for me? When part of the reason for flying out and in SDQ was to save money from expensive POP? By the time I pay for any public transport, gas for my vehicle / rental, hotel in SD, I would think that my savings would have been mostly consumed?

In this report you mentioned driving around in SD, driving back to Puerto Plata. And you flew out of SDQ to head back to the US. So did you drive your personal vehicle OR rental to and from the north coast to SD, and then fly out of SDQ? If it was your vehicle, where did you park it, how long did you park it there, and the cost? If it was a rental, which company and how much did that cost you?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1961273]Hell no. I have been to Russia. There are more SUVs and luxury automobiles there than you can shake a stick at. And the place is expensive as all get out.[/QUOTE]The terms first world, second world, and third world have nothing to do with what sort of vehicles are in use or how expensive things are. Originally first world meant the developed western democracies or Europe, North America, plus places like Australia, and second world the developed nations in the communist eastern block under the domination of Russia. Everywhere else was third world or "non-aligned".

However since the fall of the iron curtain, the term "second world" has had no real meaning. First world countries are those that have developed infrastructure, health services, law enforcement, a functional court system, water, sewerage, stable government and currencies, third world countries are those that are, euphemistically, developing, or supposedly on a pathway to first world status.

[QUOTE=Cool;1961217]Is Russia second world?[/QUOTE]There is no "Second World".

Reminds me of the United Kingdom rail system I grew up with. For about eighty years until 1956 there was no "Second Class" travel, just "First" and "Third".

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1961640] My LE mind kicked in and I thought that would be an excellent way to rob unsuspecting travelers of their money or their vehicles and I considered myself to be fortunate.[/QUOTE]I came across that plenty of times on my way to Santiago from Sosua, using the mountain road, and umpteen times elsewhere. Never did it occur to me that this was a robbery plan and it was kids, almost always, doing the deed. If one does not stop, they automatically lower the cord as they do not want it ripped. Cause or no cause (Parkinson's photo), it is their way of raising a bit of money and has never been a concern for a non law enforcement mind like mine. Thank god for my third world upbringing where police do not over-react with guns, over thinking things.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1961927]I came across that plenty of times on my way to Santiago from Sosua, using the mountain road, and umpteen times elsewhere. Never did it occur to me that this was a robbery plan and it was kids, almost always, doing the deed. If one does not stop, they automatically lower the cord as they do not want it ripped. Cause or no cause (Parkinson's photo), it is their way of raising a bit of money and has never been a concern for a non law enforcement mind like mine. Thank god for my third world upbringing where police do not over-react with guns, over thinking things.[/QUOTE]It is natural to respond and think according to how we are trained and what we have learned from life experience. In my case had I not responded training earlier in my LE career I might not be retired now. As for this situation my senses were heightened because I did not know where I was. It is good to know that the practice is common and generally not a cause for concern.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1961737]I'm talking about the JP2 out near the airport. It is 1.5 hours faster to get to Puerto Plata than going up DR1 through Santiago.[/QUOTE]I wish Google would have directed me to that route.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1961823]Hey Camaro. I feel likewise about these high ass airfares to and from POP. And they do not seem to be coming back down as fast as they used to later on in the year. I have used public transportation (Caribe Tours and Cibao Transporte) to get to STI. Flew out and back to STI. Using SDQ to go back and forth is even cheaper. It's just the effort, time, added potential risk of problems on the road, and the total expense between the north coast and SDQ can be an issue.

Staying in SD a day or two, and make it a mini excursion may make it easier and enjoyable. But still I wonder will it be worth it for me? When part of the reason for flying out and in SDQ was to save money from expensive POP? By the time I pay for any public transport, gas for my vehicle / rental, hotel in SD, I would think that my savings would have been mostly consumed?

In this report you mentioned driving around in SD, driving back to Puerto Plata. And you flew out of SDQ to head back to the US. So did you drive your personal vehicle OR rental to and from the north coast to SD, and then fly out of SDQ? If it was your vehicle, where did you park it, how long did you park it there, and the cost? If it was a rental, which company and how much did that cost you?[/QUOTE]All of the aforementioned concerns are legitimate. I have probably spent more money in total flying out of SDQ between gas, lodging, food and chicas, however in my case my objective has been to break the North Coast monotony and possibly build a South Coast network.

In the past I have used different options for my vehicle, once I used the gated parking at one of the apartments I stayed at, I have also used a friends gating parking who lives in Santo Domingo and finally I used the parking at Las Americas. Parking at Las Americas for long term is not desirable because they have no long term parking rates like we are accustomed to in the United States they charge 1000 pesos a day which obviously adds up. One thing I will give them credit for is their parking lot security is pretty tight, I was thoroughly impressed.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1962090]All of the aforementioned concerns are legitimate. I have probably spent more money in total flying out of SDQ between gas, lodging, food and chicas, however in my case my objective has been to break the North Coast monotony and possibly build a South Coast network.[/QUOTE]Understood. Point taken.

[QUOTE]In the past I have used different options for my vehicle, once I used the gated parking at one of the apartments I stayed at, I have also used a friends gating parking who lives in Santo Domingo and finally I used the parking at Las Americas. Parking at Las Americas for long term is not desirable because they have no long term parking rates like we are accustomed to in the United States they charge 1000 pesos a day which obviously adds up. One thing I will give them credit for is their parking lot security is pretty tight, I was thoroughly impressed.[/QUOTE]Having a friend with a place to park in SD is a great option. At your gated parking where you stay at (the apartment)? Were you still checked in as a guest to the apartment when you flew out? Or were you checked out, and you took a chance in leaving it there, until you returned? Also thanks for the pricing info for the airport. 1000 pesos a day can definitely add up, especially for anyone who really needs a long term parking rate.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1962086]It is natural to respond and think according to how we are trained and what we have learned from life experience. In my case had I not responded training earlier in my LE career I might not be retired now. As for this situation my senses were heightened because I did not know where I was. It is good to know that the practice is common and generally not a cause for concern.[/QUOTE]LE training or none, what you observed [b][i]could[/i][/b] be an excellent way to rob unsuspecting travelers. The key is "unsuspecting". I thought about that possibility as well, when I ran into those rope / string holders. And like you, got past it without panicking or jamming on the gas. LOL.

Individuals assuming every string / rope scenario is comprised of regular folks soliciting donations, are the perfect targets.

Because as soon as they see a rope up, stopping motorists, they are likely going to assume it's only donation time again. In the history of the DR nobody ever got robbed by a phony traffic stop?.

My other observation is the safety of the individuals running up to and along side of vehicles, and those holding the rope. You don't want any of them to slip and fall under someones wheel or get dragged if the rope gets caught up while individuals are holding it.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1962196]Understood. Point taken.

Having a friend with a place to park in SD is a great option. At your gated parking where you stay at (the apartment)? Were you still checked in as a guest to the apartment when you flew out? Or were you checked out, and you took a chance in leaving it there, until you returned? Also thanks for the pricing info for the airport. 1000 pesos a day can definitely add up, especially for anyone who really needs a long term parking rate.[/QUOTE]

Many of the Airbnb apartments have gated secured complexes. The owners sometimes have 2 or more parking spaces and are willing to let you leave your car in the parking lot. Depending on the owner he might want a return visit to his apartment, he might want a small fee, or he might do it for gratis. The time I used one of the Airbnb apartments they had extra space so I didn't pay anything, of course I had to assume liability for any damages to my vehicle.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1962086]It is natural to respond and think according to how we are trained and what we have learned from life experience. In my case had I not responded training earlier in my LE career I might not be retired now. As for this situation my senses were heightened because I did not know where I was. It is good to know that the practice is common and generally not a cause for concern.[/QUOTE]You are quite right. We are product of our experiences. I was not trying to upbraid anyone and I apologize to you if my comments came across that way. The fact is that where there are no guns around, as in most countries, the police have time to think instead of reacting, being dictated by fear. Yes, DR, by that account is quite safe, to my experience.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1962087]I wish Google would have directed me to that route.[/QUOTE]I have used it a few times without any directions from Google. I guess map reading is a forgotten art.

[URL]https://www.iheartdr.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Dominican-Republic-Map.jpg[/URL]

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1962415]The fact is that where there are no guns around, as in most countries, the police have time to think instead of reacting, being dictated by fear. Yes, DR, by that account is quite safe, to my experience.[/QUOTE]Are you implying that there are no guns around in DR? Because that could not be farther from the truth. I have seen plenty of young guys carrying guns in their waistband and plenty of older gentlemen with guns on their hip. And aren't there shootings in El Flow in Sosua from time to time?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1962437]I have used it a few times without any directions from Google. I guess map reading is a forgotten art.

[URL]https://www.iheartdr.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Dominican-Republic-Map.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE]This is not 1492. Even the US Navy uses GPS to navigate the high seas.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1962437]I have used it a few times without any directions from Google. I guess map reading is a forgotten art.

[URL]https://www.iheartdr.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Dominican-Republic-Map.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE]I used maps early in my LE career but toward the end we used GPS devices to respond to our calls for service so out of habit I have become more reliant on GPS devices than maps. I guess I am a product of my environment.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1962490]This is not 1492. Even the US Navy uses GPS to navigate the high seas.[/QUOTE]Yes, but if they ignore ocean currents when on the high seas, and depth charts and tide tables when in coastal waters, they will not navigate very efficiently. Although Columbus did lose one ship that ran aground, he did an amazing job of not running aground in the course of three expeditions. Oh, and he did not use maps in 1492, because the only maps that existed were the ones he made himself.

I use GPS navigation daily and it is invaluable for finding addresses or navigating routes with a lot of turns, but it is less useful for long distance navigation in the US, because usually you just want to get onto the nearest freeway or Interstate Highway and stay on it until close to the destination then use the GPS to find the destination address.

Any online navigation system is based on and limited by underlying maps. In the US you will tend to find that streets or housing developments built within the last 2 years may or may not show up on the maps used by Google, Apple, Windows, Mapquest, etc. If cops, ambulances, and utilities do not take account of this, they will waste a hell of a lot of time running across town to similar sounding addresses suggested by their GPS navigation systems.

But in places like the DR the time lapse is much greater, and some online navigation systems still don't have Route 7 (Samana Highway) included even though it was opened on June 1st 2009. Sounds like Google Maps has still not been updated for the DR for 2009. That is why you need a better map.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1962596]Although Columbus did lose one ship that ran aground, he did an amazing job of not running aground in the course of three expeditions. Oh, and he did not use maps in 1492, because the only maps that existed were the ones he made himself.[/QUOTE]Another reason not to use maps is that maps are for land. Can't do a damn thing for you in the ocean. On the water we use charts.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1962392]Many of the Airbnb apartments have gated secured complexes. The owners sometimes have 2 or more parking spaces and are willing to let you leave your car in the parking lot. Depending on the owner he might want a return visit to his apartment, he might want a small fee, or he might do it for gratis. The time I used one of the Airbnb apartments they had extra space so I didn't pay anything, of course I had to assume liability for any damages to my vehicle.[/QUOTE]Thanks Camaro.

Hi guys just got back from a quick trip - - 7 days with a different set of the+ cups every day including three porn star regulars and five new ones. Stayed at Maison Gartreaux (behind Crowne Plaza) which turned out to be a really nice, clean, convenient 1 star with better than average service and nice breakfast for the cost (around $30/ night). Also got up to Las Galeras north of Samana with my wingman (in his car) and stayed at Plaza Lusitaniai Hotel which I highly recommend. The country girls are really sweet and like to drink and fuck. PM me if any Qs or fotos needed. Cheers.

Send me some of those pics. Love the way you roll.

[QUOTE=DCups;1965085]Hi guys just got back from a quick trip - - 7 days with a different set of the+ cups every day including three porn star regulars and five new ones. Stayed at Maison Gartreaux (behind Crowne Plaza) which turned out to be a really nice, clean, convenient 1 star with better than average service and nice breakfast for the cost (around $30/ night). Also got up to Las Galeras north of Samana with my wingman (in his car) and stayed at Plaza Lusitaniai Hotel which I highly recommend. The country girls are really sweet and like to drink and fuck. PM me if any Qs or fotos needed. Cheers.[/QUOTE]

Took an Uber to Plaza Guridy and found GBP. It is a very nondescript location in the corner with a buzzer. I hit the buzzer several times and nothing. Then two Dominicans entered. I buzzed a couple of times again and they peered over the balcony to let me know it was closed. Fast forward 20 hours to today (Monday) and I was back again. Must be closed on Sunday?

This time the door was open. I walked all the way to the top, but realized it was on the 2nd floor. I went downstairs and buzzed, but nothing. I went back upstairs and peered through the window. I saw no one, but the beads were swaying left and right, so I knew someone had to be in there. I knocked and a young lady answered and said something in Spanish about the buzzer downstairs. I must not have pressed it hard enough.

Anyway, she let me in and there were about 8 girls to choose from. I always choose the one with the most welcoming smile. It never does me wrong. I was shown to a room with a fan, red light, and two couches. She return and undressed me. She proceeded to lick my balls and ass. Felt great, but then on comes the cover for the BJ. This could be a new lyric to that old Alannis Morrissette song Ironic. "Like Dominican working girls who rim your ass but don't BBJ".

I then went down on here and she was shaking in about 5 minutes. I then fucked her in missionary and blew rather quickly. I was pent up from lack of play the day before and searching DR cupids and Tinder for a better part of the day. I finally said fuck that and went to GBP.

Usually when I blow, I like to get the hell out. She would not let me leave. I could not communicate with her too well that I was ready to go, so I just stayed while she got dressed and put make up on. I had nowhere to go, so I did not mind too much, but I would have preferred to be on my way. Then she reaches over and puts her hand down my shorts and starts lightly scratching my balls until I got hard again. I already paid 1500 DPs. I was thinking perhaps this was a 2 for 1 opportunity. A true happy hour. I could not take the teasing anymore, so I unzipped and brought him out. She said it would be another 1500 pesos. What unfair sales tactics. Some governing investigative body should look into this. I ponied up for another round and round 2 was more of the same with even a longer salad tossing. She was quite the Rusty Trombone virtuoso.

I left a relieved and happy man. Girls name was Yahaida or something like that. She was not a spinner, but not too thick with gorgeous dark skin and beautiful lips and smile. Service was top notch despite the questionable means for procuring a second 1500. Thumbs up and thanks for those who have reported on this gem before.

[QUOTE=DCups;1965085]Also got up to Las Galeras north of Samana with my wingman (in his car) and stayed at Plaza Lusitaniai Hotel which I highly recommend. The country girls are really sweet and like to drink and fuck.[/QUOTE]Can you please do a separate report on the area? That'd be great.

Barbarossa, they must have seen you coming. GBP is 1200 for 1 girl for 1 hour or 2000 for 2 girls for 1 hour. Let me guess. The girl left out of the room when you gave her the first 1500, but did not leave out when you gave her the second 1500. All money has to be turned in to the bar before the session and the girls get paid their cut at the end of the night. She treated the second 1500 as it was a tip because the original session would not be up for an hour.

I think the name you mean to say is Yajaira. At least you saw what the service there was about. And did you protest the condom for the BJ? Sometimes you have to be a leader instead of just following along with the program that someone is leading you through.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1965178]Barbarossa, they must have seen you coming. GBP is 1200 for 1 girl for 1 hour or 2000 for 2 girls for 1 hour. Let me guess. The girl left out of the room when you gave her the first 1500, but did not leave out when you gave her the second 1500. All money has to be turned in to the bar before the session and the girls get paid their cut at the end of the night. She treated the second 1500 as it was a tip because the original session would not be up for an hour.

I think the name you mean to say is Yajaira. At least you saw what the service there was about. And did you protest the condom for the BJ? Sometimes you have to be a leader instead of just following along with the program that someone is leading you through.[/QUOTE]No, she left both times. Thanks for the tips and also the correct spelling of her name. I will use this info when I return.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1965178]And did you protest the condom for the BJ? Sometimes you have to be a leader instead of just following along with the program that someone is leading you through.[/QUOTE]How do you think her tongue found my asshole? I did not mind the CBJ much in this case because I wanted to last awhile during FS and after the RJ, I was teetering on the edge. You know what they say "rim jobs trump BBBJs. ".

I'm looking for some high-end casas in Santo Domingo, something better than Casa Teresa, for example. Any recommendations? If not casas, any good escort services?

Thanks, OK. Check your personal email.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1965100]Send me some of those pics. Love the way you roll.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Barbarossa;1965514]How do you think her tongue found my asshole? I did not mind the CBJ much in this case because I wanted to last awhile during FS and after the RJ, I was teetering on the edge. You know what they say "rim jobs trump BBBJs. ".[/QUOTE]One chick in there did it to me automatically. She had her baby wipes and all.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1965750]One chick in there did it to me automatically. She had her baby wipes and all.[/QUOTE]I read that post. That is why I made a beeline there. Thanks again. Oh, and furthermore, I was there for an hour and a half, so I do not feel like I get that screwed on the price. Although I did get screwed.

[QUOTE=DavisDj;1955954]OK, has anyone been to the Renaissance Jaragua lately? I've read conflicting reports about it being chica friendly in this thread. If I could get an update, it would be appreciated.

Out of the following hotels, which one (s) would you recommend? Which have been your favorite? What is the closest to the action aka nightlife, beach etc. Not just pros. Thanks fellas!

Jaragua, Catalonia, BQ Hotel, Casa Conde / Savoy, Napolitano & JW Marriott.[/QUOTE]I have the same question. Please assist.

Where is the best place to exchange money right now? Thanks for the assistance!

[QUOTE=DavisDj;1965981]Where is the best place to exchange money right now? Thanks for the assistance![/QUOTE]Western Union and Caribe / Vimenca usually give better $ . I went to an exchange place in Bella Vista Mall and they paid me 46.3 pesos per dollar. Franks is the best place in zona Colonial. Banks, including Western Union requires for a valid I. The. To change your money. Banreservas in the airport was paying 46 pesos per dollar.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1966210]Western Union and Caribe / Vimenca usually give better $ . I went to an exchange place in Bella Vista Mall and they paid me 46.3 pesos per dollar. Franks is the best place in zona Colonial. Banks, including Western Union requires for a valid I. The. To change your money. Banreservas in the airport was paying 46 pesos per dollar.[/QUOTE]In Bocachica this morning, Caribe was offering 46.45 while most of the other traders were quoting 46.40. The DR is lucky that most of the recipients of greenbacks are unable or incapable to save. If they had the same love for it that, let's say the Russians, the exchange would be over 50 as in Hipolito's times.

I visited Santo Domingo from November 18 to 21. My Jetblue ticket cost $95.00 plus a few true blue points. I arrived to Santo Domingo and my cab driver Ariel was ready waiting for me. Inside the airport Banreservas was paying 46 pesos per dollar. Although they were using the biometric machines to read your finger prints the lane moved fast. Outside the airport there was a tourist complaining to 3 Policemen about cab drivers that do not let him use Uber on premises.

Outside the airport we made a stop on garage Texaco for the first jumbo. Next stop was to Villar Hermanos to eat chicharrones de cerdo. Finally we arrived to hotel BQ Santo Domingo on Sarasota Avenue, Santo Domingo Oeste. My cousin paid all room expenses. Room cost was $165 per night with buffet breakfast. It has a room with 2 queen beds, a living dining area plus a kitchen with a fridge, stove and microwave. We got penthouse 803 which also includes an open air terrace with a a jacuzzi large enough to accommodate eight persons. Our room also has direct connection with Vent Club. Although a little outdated the room was nice and functional. We got informed that rooms are going to be remodeled during 2017.

My cousin was a little tired so he took a nap while I went to Bella Vista Mall to exchange money at Imbert & Balbuena. They gave me 46.3 pesos per dollar. From Bella Vista mall I walked to Supermercados Unidos a large store almost in front of hotel BQ to buy groceries. I bought beer, water, wine, the usual. A guy helped me to bring my purchase back to the hotel. While we were walking between cars that were waiting in red traffic light the bag I was holding accidentally hit a car by drivers door. I continued walking when a voice asked for my attention: "Excuse me" I walked back and inside a BMW was one very pretty pretty pretty lady. She told me that I hit her car. I observed it and and told her that no damage was done to her car. She replied "what do you say in a situation like this one?" My answer was: will you marry me? She laughed and I continued: " I know I should say I am sorry but only if you say that you are sorry for stopping over the pedestrian crosswalk forcing me to walk between cars to avoid being hit by cars on green light. " Lights turn green for her so said goodbye. Oh, I forgot, that girl was pretty pretty pretty.

So now we have all ready, local cash, groceries, the suite. We already had plans with two girls that we met online, one by Facebook, the other by Hitwe, a much better app than Badoo. We planned a jacuzzi date and we agreed on having sex. They suddenly changed our plans, they wanted to have a date, dinner at a fancy place, going to dance and some drinks and later, "who knows". They do not want the jacuzzi thing because they do not want their visit to the salon ruined by water. I told her we will call when we are ready. We never called and we blocked both from whatsapp. We went to Agave restaurant, near the hotel to eat and plan for the night. We contacted a few chicas but no one was available. I called Waleska, former owner of the now defunct Pink Lounge but she do not answer our calls. After our meal we decided to walk around the area and went to Hotel Embajador. There are a few nice restaurants next to the hotel. We walked inside the luxury lobby and the poorest persons inside looks like they earn a million dollar per week. We went out and a guy next to the nice restaurant asked us if we wanted to meet a few nice girls. He shows us a place with the name of Tabu 2. He told us this place was in Gazcue but the owners moved it to the current location next to hotel Embajador. The cost is 2500 pesos for short term insite or 3500 for a longer time to your hotel room. We decided to get in just to see if it was worth the visit. The place is ok, comfortable, a little dark as most places like this one. Nine girls lined up with the enthusiasm an atheist inside a church. One was cute. Two ladies that were seated near the lineup are very pretty but looked uninterested too. We left the place without choosing anyone. We decided to walk to our hotel. Five street girls offered their services. No one was of our interest. Another one a very busty one was alone. We passed. Two girls were near the busty one, both pretty and decently dressed. "Good evening gentlemen, are you interested to receive professional services from us?" Her educated approach surprised me. I asked about her services. She told me a blowjob in my room or on a parking lot is 500 pesos, full service 1000 pesos and 1500 pesos if we go to a cabana. She also told that if we use the parking lot we have to pay 100 pesos to security guard. Is he going to observe us? She laughed and said no, we are going to a private area. I observed my cousin interested so I decided to take the girls to our room. We entered to the hotel and nobody asked the girls for an ID, maybe because there do not look like a typical street girl. They were amazed by the room and the jacuzzi. We want to go to the jacuzzi, they chanted! But. The hair! I went to the bathroom and found two shower caps in toiletries. Jacuzzi time!

Inside the jacuzzi I asked her why it is 1500 pesos inside a cabana, she told me because it is more time we are going to use. We shared a jumbo. Both ladies get fully naked inside the jacuzzi. They are two 21 years college dropouts that share a small apartment. Both were busty girls, 34 see with full cup, my girl was taller. My cousin was fascinated with his red headed girl. He loves red hair, his girlfriend is red headed too. My cousin can't wait so he asked his girl and they went to the room. We heard her moaning from the jacuzzi, they left the room door open. My girl proceeded to perform my first jacuzzi blowjob ever. Mmm, no, it was my second. I eat her pussy and ass while fingering both holes. We went out the jacuzzi, it was cold in the terrace as it was a cloudy night I took a condom out from my jean and we had sex in the chaise lounge chair. I did her doggie style all the time until completion. She went to the bathroom, my cousin was still doing his girl. We paid the ladies the 1500 pesos cabana fare for their satisfying service.

My cousin was so pumped that he told me: "lets go to GBP!" "GBP! Oh I forgot about GBP, why you did not mention the place earlier?" It was 1:00 am, GBP is closed. Five minutes later he was sleeping like a baby. That ended night number one.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1967825]Nine girls lined up with the enthusiasm an atheist inside a church.[/QUOTE]That drew a huge guffaw from me. Lovely report as well.

I'll be making my second trip to Santo Domingo later this week. My last trip was back in 2009 so I definitely need a refresher. I'll be staying at Hotel Jaragua Fri-Mon. I was considering the following hotels so called each to confirm their guest policy. Below is what they said:

Jaragua. No extra fee. Guest must have ID.

Hotel Billini. No charge for one guest but $30 charge for second. Guest must have ID.

Sheraton. There is an extra fee (can't remember amount) and guest must have ID.

Since I'll only be in town for three nights and one is a Sunday I want to maximize my time. Luckily, I don't have any other commitments so will have both days and nights to play.

I have a couple of questions I'm hoping you boys can help with (I RTFF but haven't found good recent info):

1) Non-Pros / Semi-Pros.

I'd like to hit some cool dance clubs on Fri / Sat night where there is a descent chance of meeting non-pros. Any recommendations for cool spots with cute non-pros, and maybe a few semi pros mixed in?

2) Street walkers.

Zona Colonial.

During my last trip I stay in Zona Colonial and occasionally saw some really cute girls on the street. I realized later that they were likely working and regret missing my chance. This trip I'the like to scout out some of these girls. What's the best time to find them in Zona Colonial? Is the approach pretty direct or do you need a bit of game? What's the going rate?

Malecon.

It sounds like girls hang around the stretch near Jaragua and Crown Plazas. ST prices range from 1500-2000. Not sure about TLN. Is this right? Do you need a car or is it safe to walk by them?

3) Strip Clubs.

I love strip clubs and heard there are a couple not far from hotel Jaragua (Doll House and Foxy's). There doesn't seem to be much written about these places except older posts about how hot and expensive the girls were. Any info out there on these spots? Are they set up like American strip clubs with nude dancing and private rooms?

4) Casas.

I went to GBP last time but haven't been anywhere else. Are all of theme a similar setup? It seems there are a lot of casas. I noted the following from Camaro:

Ave Pasteur:

- Girls House.

- Sky High Lounge.

- Sensation Discotheque.

- Club 305 (not on Pasture).

Girls are 7-8+.

4,000ST, 8,000 LT.

- Casa Teresa.

- Casa Condita Calle.

- Oasis.

- Satin Ladies.

Are the casas pretty easy to spot from the street? Does anyone have addresses or additional intel on these spots or others?

Thanks for your guidance. I will provide a report.

Many thanks!

Neidermeyer

Great report Boricua. Keep them coming!

[QUOTE=Neidermeyer;1967901]I'll be making my second trip to Santo Domingo later this week. My last trip was back in 2009 so I definitely need a refresher. I'll be staying at Hotel Jaragua Fri-Mon. I was considering the following hotels so called each to confirm their guest policy. Below is what they said:

Jaragua. No extra fee. Guest must have ID.

Hotel Billini. No charge for one guest but $30 charge for second. Guest must have ID.

Sheraton. There is an extra fee (can't remember amount) and guest must have ID.

Since I'll only be in town for three nights and one is a Sunday I want to maximize my time. Luckily, I don't have any other commitments so will have both days and nights to play.

I have a couple of questions I'm hoping you boys can help with (I RTFF but haven't found good recent info):

1) Non-Pros / Semi-Pros.

I'd like to hit some cool dance clubs on Fri / Sat night where there is a descent chance of meeting non-pros. Any recommendations for cool spots with cute non-pros, and maybe a few semi pros mixed in?

2) Street walkers.

Zona Colonial...[/QUOTE]I just booked this hotel for 2 nights 11-13 Dec. I'll be anxious to hear how it goes, since I'll right behind you.

[QUOTE=Guinnster1;1968258]I just booked this hotel for 2 nights 11-13 Dec. I'll be anxious to hear how it goes, since I'll right behind you.[/QUOTE]I have stayed here many times, there is no guest fee if the guest Registers in with you when you arrive and then her ID must match when they stop you at the elevator in the lobby.

For example, let's say you check in and say "Maria Perez" is staying as your guest. That's free.

When you try to bring "Rosa Jones" you will have to pay $50 fee.

You might want to confirm this when you check in or before. There is always the Hotel Razor behind this hotel that has no guest charges.

[QUOTE=Neidermeyer;1967901]I have a couple of questions I'm hoping you boys can help with (I RTFF but haven't found good recent info):

1) Non-Pros / Semi-Pros.

I'd like to hit some cool dance clubs on Fri / Sat night where there is a descent chance of meeting non-pros. Any recommendations for cool spots with cute non-pros, and maybe a few semi pros mixed in?[/QUOTE]The clubs on Venezuela are still there:

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1909541]Euphoria is actually located in Santo Domingo Este. If you are standing on the sidewalk in front of the Burger King and look across the street you will see Evolution, Euphoria, Energy, La Barrica. My harem girls prefer La Barrica. We sit on the second floor outside, have drinks and watch the street life below.[/QUOTE]If you search in the "hole" you will find more detailed reports on all the venues.

[URL]http://www.diariolibre.com/m/noticias/cierran-club-doll-house-procuraduria-investiga-presunta-red-que-explota-a-colombianas-YL5629472[/URL]

Those of you who like to pay higher prices, you can cross Doll House off your list for the time being. Shut down for exploiting 15 Colombian women.

I'd like to hit some cool dance clubs on Fri / Sat night where there is a descent chance of meeting non-pros. Any recommendations for cool spots with cute non-pros, and maybe a few semi pros mixed in?

I hope you are very fluent in Spanish if you're expecting to go out and meet the company of a non Pro. I've been out several times in Santo Domingo and I can honestly tell you that I rarely see non-pros go out to the club solo. They are either with guys or with a group of women. Most will be apprehensive seeing talking to a foreigner like a punta. The clubs are loud and you cannot get a decent conversation. Most non-pros need a proper introduction from someone they are familiar with and respect. With you being very short on time I would avoid them because they are time consuming though the conversation and attraction may be more Ginuwine.

No big loss, the clip joint will be back as soon as the owner settles up the bribe debt. It's possible one or more of the Colombians contacted their government when they decided they wanted to go home but owed the management money. The Venezuelans of course don't have a functioning government to contact.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1969433][URL]http://www.diariolibre.com/m/noticias/cierran-club-doll-house-procuraduria-investiga-presunta-red-que-explota-a-colombianas-YL5629472[/URL]

Those of you who like to pay higher prices, you can cross Doll House off your list for the time being. Shut down for exploiting 15 Colombian women.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1969781]No big loss, the clip joint will be back as soon as the owner settles up the bribe debt. It's possible one or more of the Colombians contacted their government when they decided they wanted to go home but owed the management money. [b] The Venezuelans of course don't have a functioning government to contact.[/b] [/QUOTE]LOL. Boy you a fool. I can get some pussy for the $20 it cost just to go inside the place. I can get some more pussy for the 2 drink minimum that I will have to pay.

I've never been to the place. I happen to know girls who worked there over the years. I hope you figure out what is causing you to address people you don't know the way you did in this message. You should not be doing that.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1969815]LOL. Boy you a fool. I can get some pussy for the $20 it cost just to go inside the place. I can get some more pussy for the 2 drink minimum that I will have to pay.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1967825]I visited Santo Domingo from November 18 to 21. My Jetblue ticket cost $95.00 plus a few true blue points.

My girl proceeded to perform my first jacuzzi blowjob ever. Mmm, no, it was my second. I eat her pussy and ass while fingering both holes.
.[/QUOTE]Ew wee. BO you are a freak! Get you freak on brother with yo nasty ass LOL. I hate to see what you and Gogo together after a Cuba Libre.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1969878]I've never been to the place. I happen to know girls who worked there over the years. I hope you figure out what is causing you to address people you don't know the way you did in this message. You should not be doing that.[/QUOTE]I had the exact same thought about the post to which you are referring. Your response was phased very diplomatically. I completely agree with your sentiment!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1969878]I've never been to the place. I happen to know girls who worked there over the years. I hope you figure out what is causing you to address people you don't know the way you did in this message. You should not be doing that.[/QUOTE]Sorry if you misinterpreted what I said. Translation: I found it funny how you said the Venezuelan people do not have a functioning government to contact. I write in this sex blog informally; the same as if I was talking in a circle of friends, and not as if I was writing in the New England Journal of Medicine.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1969781]No big loss, the clip joint will be back as soon as the owner settles up the bribe debt. It's possible one or more of the Colombians contacted their government when they decided they wanted to go home but owed the management money. The Venezuelans of course don't have a functioning government to contact.[/QUOTE]Venezuelan Embassy in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic.

Av. Anacaona, No. 7.

Mirador Sur.

Apartado Postal: 1460 Zona 6.

Santo Domingo.

Dominican Republic.

Is this closed?

Taking the Metro into the city Wednesday and have 4 hrs of playtime before having to take the bus back to Santiago. Got a couple of girls ready to visit but am spoiled for the numerous Santiago Aparta Hotels available for less than 600RD. I'll be in near Universidad Instituto Cultural Dominicano near the Metro off of Abraham Lincoln. Any suggestions for nearby 2 hrs accommodations without check in hassles?

The Queens Cabana on the Malecon is a good place nearby from where you will be. They have 2 sides and 2 prices. The right side is the least expensive. Two years ago they were about 600 pesos. TV, showers and the other amenities.

[QUOTE=FlbMac31;1970683]Taking the Metro into the city Wednesday and have 4 hrs of playtime before having to take the bus back to Santiago. Got a couple of girls ready to visit but am spoiled for the numerous Santiago Aparta Hotels available for less than 600RD. I'll be in near Universidad Instituto Cultural Dominicano near the Metro off of Abraham Lincoln. Any suggestions for nearby 2 hrs accommodations without check in hassles?[/QUOTE].

Hi,

Arriving tomorrow from Puerto Plata after spending 5 nights there. Are you in town for few more days or you returned home?

Tash

[QUOTE=Neidermeyer;1967901]I'll be making my second trip to Santo Domingo later this week. My last trip was back in 2009 so I definitely need a refresher. I'll be staying at Hotel Jaragua Fri-Mon. I was considering the following hotels so called each to confirm their guest policy. Below is what they said:

Jaragua. No extra fee. Guest must have ID.

Hotel Billini. No charge for one guest but $30 charge for second. Guest must have ID.

Sheraton. There is an extra fee (can't remember amount) and guest must have ID.

Since I'll only be in town for three nights and one is a Sunday I want to maximize my time. Luckily, I don't have any other commitments so will have both days and nights to play.

I have a couple of questions I'm hoping you boys can help with (I RTFF but haven't found good recent info):

1) Non-Pros / Semi-Pros...[/QUOTE]

I'm an expat living in Santiago so am accustomed to how things work here. So us gringos accustomed to an incall arrangement find it almost impossible unless you live here and or really comfortable going home with your chica. Most of the options are outcall arrangements with some tags that can make the adventure a challenge. For those who monger stateside, there is an excellent guide to finding streetwalkers in the Miami board. I hope that I come close to that for my brothers who are unfamiliar with the cabana scene.

There has been little discussion that really introduces options for those who come to Santo Domingo and only have a short time between flights or buses moving on.

I had my first 6 hours adventure alone before I had to take a bus back. And things are a little different in the capital and more challenging if you don't have a car.

Thanks to Mr. E, JJ341 and SubCmdr for their suggestions and guidance and for some digits for contact.

If you don't have a hotel you're going to need to stay somewhere reasonably costs. Consider this: Here in DR there are no-tells called Cabanas. In Santiago they are more popularly known as Aparta Hotels. However, in the capital an Aparta Hotel can be expensive. Cabanas are the choice for no-tell services. Cabanas are simply put, a shower, a bed with minimum amenities, quick service. And all done without your lady having to be seen.

There are several clustered on the Malecon, an area stretching along the waterfront away from the city, about five miles where you can basically take your pic. Pricing ranges from 400-1000RD based on the type you select. Since this was my first visit, I chose Cabana Costa Azul. But while there looked others over for next visit.

Here's how it works. You enter the cabana property and follow a drive that passes a number of open garage doors. An open door is an available room, a closed door means it is occupied. If you look at the far wall of the garage you will usual see a sign that indicates the cost of the room if there are ranges of quality. There are a number of options at Costa Azul. My room was 650 which is a little on the high range for a cabana for a 4-HR visit. But most rooms were occupied so not wanting to drive around I paid the difference.

You enter the garage, your lady gets out and heads into the room, you pay the taxi or exit your car. There is always a push button on the driver's side wall that takes the door down. Some ladies prefer to wait until the door is down before they leave the car. Once you get into your room you will almost immediately get a telephone call asking if you wish to order a beer, coke or snacks. Some cabanas have decent food and a menu in the room. I speak Spanish weakly so typically express prefiero a pagar ahora. And or ask for a coke, beer or whatever.

Each room has a swivel carousel like you would find at some banks. You're going to pay upfront. You will hear a buzzer which means that your bill has been placed in the carousel and spun around to you. You can see what you have to pay, put cash only in the leather receipt carrier, spin it around and wait for change if you expect it. Generally I do not tip unless I've asked to have a drink brought. And then usually less than 50RD which is actually higher than may be expected.

Each room has towels, no washcloths, bars of soap and two condoms of questionable quality. I usually bring my own hats. The showers can, but you will rarely find hot water. Expect a cold shower or rinse off. Most girls will not touch you unless they see you hit the shower. My wife is Dominican and tells me most girls here think Europeans and Americans don't bathe often. So, you're dealing with that bias. True or not. The interior of Costa Azul was nice and led to a romantic mood. But the bed only had a fitted bottom sheet, and the towels were low-thread-count dish towels. My chica grabbed the pillowcase to dry off on the second rinse off.

When you're done, simply call your cab and wait. The cab driver will honk at which point you push the garage button and the cab will pull in for a private entry for your lady.

Hope the travelogue helps. Keep in mind that there are no requirements to exchange information with a front desk. This board has recently discussed hotels which are more chica friendly for about double what I paid. If you don't mind an early checkout or have several hours, they are a better deal if you roll in taxi costs. OR if you plan on having several different chicas visit during your stay. I did that here in Santiago when I first wanted to check out the regular street walkers. You don't feel bad at all tossing one out early and heading out for better pickins.

Also cheaper may be one of the Girl Houses MR. E discussed. That's another visit, but it sounds like you can look over what you get, make sure it's the service you want and at a cheaper overall price. It's all about the bucks and your individual situation.

Be safe in all you do.

[QUOTE=FlbMac31;1971923]Thanks to JJ341 and SubCmdr for their suggestions and guidance and for some digits for contact.[/QUOTE]Excellent report on the cabanas here in Santo Domingo and one that I would say qualifies as an exchange of information about having sex with women. Glad you had a good time while you were here. When you get back, I'll have some more digits for you my man!

Scorekeeper, mark that one as an assist. LOL!

Mayelin Eventos? Any of you heard of it or have something of note to say about it? They have a private instagram (PM for it, if you want); the girls look real good. It's on the expensive end (150 to 200 bucks), but the menu is extensive. Please PM if you've tried it. I'm looking for some info on it.

I don't see enough of these types of posts from my greedy tecano brothers, so let me lead off. These are popular in the Tampa, St Petersburg and Miami forums where the sharing of the wealth is both informative and entertaining.

I dreamed during my recent visit to the Capitol that I spirited off to Cabana Costa Azul to admire the Grecian-style interior, soft blue lights and a fantastic release. It's so rare to not have to bar-hop, hit the clubs or rely on the beach-front resorts, but set-up a real life get together GF experience. So much thanks for sharing a UTR, that's under-the-radar, phone number.

I had been texting via WhatsApp for about a week before my arrival. One of three contacts, she was the first to discuss a reasonable service arrangement. Now that arrangement upset the other, especially when I shared she didn't answer so I figured she wasn't interested. Such arrangements prevent golden-pussy syndrome and the usual haggling. The big advantage is that the next time we dream together we know each other's limits and how far to push before the shove-back breaks the deal.

In my dream Rosayri didn't waste much time getting out of clothes. Nice big DS with my favorite dark 2 inch aerola. A curvy girl and no fat. She crawled up on me and laid those puppies in my face. Nice eraser nipples. Kissing was off limits and no desire to play around. All service covered. Great mouth technique to place the hat, then little discussion as she reverse cowgirl at incredible speed and skill as she knelt on one knee with the other leg flat-footed on the bed. Applied for an Oscar w / lots of loud moans and whimpers. After about ten she switched to regular cowgirl with the same technique without ever getting wet. A quick jump off awaiting instruction and request for BBBJCIM. Good technique but tired easily and didn't understand my need for aggressive head. Once communication improved and she realized it was attached and would not fall off she turned into suckzilla and finished the job all the way, caught the evidence and then hit the bathroom to spit. I lost that battle.

Totally satisfied I laid back on the bed and commented that I was ready for round #2 which was not on the menu. Job was done. We rested a little bit, laid beside each other and tried to DATY receiving much resistance. After a few please babies and let me take care of you she reluctantly consented to a tease contest which she lost. Much flicking of the tongue and a finger teasing her vajay produced some realistic soft moans until her hips began to gyrate in slow motion timed to the tongue. Now dripping wet she grabbed my hand and pushed the finger deep into her, lifted up her hips and went into vajay convulsions. She wasn't expecting that and just laid back and pushed my head away. Battle won.

Pros: Semi pro UTR by reference only.

Natural curves w / faded tramp stamp on her back.

Cowgirl skills are champion quality. Be prepared to buck the bronco.

Follows oral instructions to BBBJCIM completion.

Stuck to negotiated fee without add ONS.

Cons: Over 90 minutes late for our appointment. Took a shower after our appointment time. Did not follow instructions well.

Verbal moans are Oscar quality, but able to respond to stimuli and be a natural.

Pre-paid cash for a taxi ride home, but expected the driver to be paid at first stop. Kept the cash and argumentative.

Provided digits. Would recommend for a quick stop. Other arrangements may be available.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1969878]I've never been to the place. I happen to know girls who worked there over the years. I hope you figure out what is causing you to address people you don't know the way you did in this message. You should not be doing that.[/QUOTE]He does have an annoying tendency to respond to posts before actually reading or trying to comprehend the message. But, that is what the ignore feature is great for. People who have a compulsive need to post constantly on any forum (regardless of the subject matter), generally have little of value to say. And when the time one spends posting, exceeds the actual time spent mongering in real minutes, there are credibility issues with me.

And in case you are wondering, I am really interesting in visiting the DR in the new 2 or three months. Hence, my reason to be here. I'm a history enthusiast, as well. Hence the capitol of the DR is great interest for more than just the poon. But, In the meantime, feel free to peruse my latest reports on my first visit to Thailand. And I will be glad to hear any suggestions for a first-time visit to SD and the DR, in general.

Forgot the photos.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1972642]He does have an annoying tendency to respond to posts before actually reading or trying to comprehend the message. But, that is what the ignore feature is great for. People who have a compulsive need to post constantly on any forum (regardless of the subject matter), generally have little of value to say. And when the time one spends posting, exceeds the actual time spent mongering in real minutes, there are credibility issues with me.[/QUOTE]That is a very dumb thing to say. If someone is well versed about various subject matter then they should not be believed? It would make sense to not believe them if they were posting false or incorrect info on said subject matter. I have not seen a post by a monger saying that info that I have posted here has ever led him astray. As a matter of fact I was just thanked a couple of posts down by a monger for giving him info that he put to good use on his Santo Domingo excursion. If I have ever posted faulty information then please let me know and I will stand corrected. If not, then stfu and continue to use the ignore feature. I prefer to deal in facts and not emotions or feelings as you have done in your post.

Hello,

Arriving to Santo Domingo in an unexpected travel. Didn't have time to read all posts and I don't want to spend my night reading.

I am in Holiday Inn hotel. What do you recommend me to get a chica in DR near the area?

I promise my next time I'll do my homework reading the forum!! But this time I will need help from you fellows.

Any review related to [URL]escortdominicanas.com[/URL]?

Has anyone hired their services?

I will be coming to DR / SD, in the last week of January. All of February - 1 week of March, any ex-pats from the east coast? NY, Jersey, Philly, wash DC, conn, mass, pa can chat? Was thinking about maybe retiring, would love to chat and find out about, how is it living there?

Thanks,

Strokenblkman

[QUOTE=StrokenBlkMan;1975430]I will be coming to DR / SD, in the last week of January. Was thinking about maybe retiring, would love to chat and find out about, how is it living there?[/QUOTE]You may want to consult DR1 website under the heading "Living".

Thanks for the reference, but was looking to hangout with an ex-pat and monger also, I will be arriving the last week of Jan. Whole month of February. And the first week of March 2017, just looking to link up with a ex-pat (living there) to show me the ropes, chill with, when I usually go, I am usually with some locals I know, living in SD, (cab drivers) etc, I usually play chess down on the malecon, down from Pollo Rey. I want to roll with some ex-pats this trip, let me know what you think?

Strokenblkman

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Get yourself a long term rental (one month or more) and see for yourself. You will get all kinds of opinions but the only way to know for sure is to experience it. My advice is once you have a week or two behind you, focus on those moments when you are all fucked out to see how interested you still are in day to day living in the country.

[QUOTE=StrokenBlkMan;1975430]I will be coming to DR / SD, in the last week of January. All of February - 1 week of March, any ex-pats from the east coast? NY, Jersey, Philly, wash DC, conn, mass, pa can chat? Was thinking about maybe retiring, would love to chat and find out about, how is it living there?

Thanks,

Strokenblkman[/QUOTE]

Where can I find a good GFE provider in Santo Domingo? Please PM details if you have anyone to recommend.

Cheers,

ATH.

[QUOTE=Gomaji1969;1973059]Any review related to [URL]escortdominicanas.com[/URL]?

Has anyone hired their services?[/QUOTE]I've never used it, but switcheroos and excessive photoshop is common. Also, you must be very specific in what you request. Last minute haggling is common with these kinds of services. Finally, pay after and never before.

Has anyone been in this hotel? Good reviews on tripadvisor for 70 $ in zona colonial.

Guest friendly?

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;1978251]Has anyone been in this hotel? Good reviews on tripadvisor for 70 $ in zona colonial.

Guest friendly?[/QUOTE]Same for Hotel Portes 9.

Any info?

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;1978251]Has anyone been in this hotel? Good reviews on tripadvisor for 70 $ in zona colonial.

Guest friendly?[/QUOTE]Why not call or email and ask them instead of asking the board individually about every hotel in Santo Domingo?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1978293]Why not call or email and ask them instead of asking the board individually about every hotel in Santo Domingo?[/QUOTE]I never answered like this to similar demands, especially in Thailand forums. But thanks for the advice. Just wanted third party opinion.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;1978304]I never answered like this to similar demands, especially in Thailand forums. But thanks for the advice. Just wanted third party opinion.[/QUOTE]The word of the hotel is better than any 3rd party opinion. Can't go wrong getting it straight from the horse's mouth.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1969781]No big loss, the clip joint will be back as soon as the owner settles up the bribe debt. It's possible one or more of the Colombians contacted their government when they decided they wanted to go home but owed the management money. The Venezuelans of course don't have a functioning government to contact.[/QUOTE]As It's literally right down the street from my property I'm going to disagree. Based on the crowd of Mongers on a regular basis many others enjoy it well. I love the mixture of Latin countries all in one place. It's only a loss for people on a budget and persons that enjoy haggling over a few dollars. It's a great place to relax and if you're a strip club regular in your home country like I am its outstanding.

It's just a different kind of scene not good or bad.

[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;1979562]Based on the crowd of Mongers on a regular basis many others enjoy it well. I love the mixture of Latin countries all in one place. It's only a loss for people on a budget and persons that enjoy haggling over a few dollars.[/QUOTE]Alex did you mean "It's only NOT a loss..."? There were always a lot of cars outside that place.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1978312]The word of the hotel is better than any 3rd party opinion. Can't go wrong getting it straight from the horse's mouth.[/QUOTE]Last year I send almost 10 emails to hotels in São Paulo, asking if they are guest friendly. Some of them didn't answer my emails at all. Some of them answered yes and no and only Accor hotels and Bourbon gave me an answer that was clear; if the girl stays overnight you have to pay, if not she is free to visit you.

I think they don't want to give an clear answer to be able to deny the entry of the girls who look too trashy etc.

I booked Hotel Portes 9 in May 2017 and stopped by to see it while I was in SD in November. It looked ok. I think you are paying way too much, tho. I booked through expedia dot com with airfare package for much cheaper. It's on the Northwest side of the zone near the river.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;1978265]Same for Hotel Portes 9.

Any info?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=DCups;1979777]I booked Hotel Portes 9 in May 2017 and stopped by to see it while I was in SD in November
.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot. Any pb bringing your chicas?

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;1979819]Thanks a lot. Any pb bringing your chicas?[/QUOTE]I haven't stayed there yet (booked for May 2017) but when I do I assume there is no problem. Other inexpensive places I have stayed at are Maison Gartreaux and Casa Conde. Google them. Conde will charge you $5 extra per chica per visit. Annoying. That's why I stay at Maison Gartreaux. Lots of options if you do your homework.

[QUOTE=DCups;1979829]I haven't stayed there yet (booked for May 2017) .[/QUOTE]I'll be there Feb 2017, thus before you. I'll make a report anyway for each place visited, as usual.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1979573]Alex did you mean "It's only NOT a loss..."? There were always a lot of cars outside that place.[/QUOTE]For me it's a loss. If it not open next month I'm going to be pissed. Last time I was down, I took my "Golfing Buddies" and we about closed it down twice. Always a group of outstanding young ladies from different Latin countries and a sexy Euro every now and then. Lots of professional Puerto Rican businessman hang out there. They had a Brazilian in there so fine. Yes she was a 10+. Yes, you are going to pay for it and No there was not a Dominican in any other clubs that was as sexy. Trust me, my crew and I looked. Best encounters I have had in DR have ranged from 1 mil pesos to $350; Both worth the money.

Price is relative and I'm sick of budget mongers decrying a place based on a price. Here in Miami a group will intentionally keep a price high for a venue just to cull the clientele. It's like comparing Pricing of The Lexx to tootsies to back-page as a frame of reference.

My trips are about variety. I'm a go to Hood, to the Penthouse, and ball at all.

[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;1979902]For me it's a loss. If it not open next month I'm going to be pissed. Last time I was down, I took my "Golfing Buddies" and we about closed it down twice. Always a group of outstanding young ladies from different Latin countries and a sexy Euro every now and then. Lots of professional Puerto Rican businessman hang out there. They had a Brazilian in there so fine. Yes she was a 10+. Yes, you are going to pay for it and No there was not a Dominican in any other clubs that was as sexy. Trust me, my crew and I looked. Best encounters I have had in DR have ranged from 1 mil pesos to $350; Both worth the money.

Price is relative and I'm sick of budget mongers decrying a place based on a price. Here in Miami a group will intentionally keep a price high for a venue just to cull the clientele. It's like comparing Pricing of The Lexx to tootsies to back-page as a frame of reference.

My trips are about variety. I'm a go to Hood, to the Penthouse, and ball at all.[/QUOTE]What are some of the other strip clubs in SD? That are not in seedy areas & good quality chicas.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=DavisDj;1980146]What are some of the other strip clubs in SD? That are not in seedy areas & good quality chicas.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]That's the thing. That's the only one I would go to the rest are either closed down or trash. Try Oasis down by old Babby Dolls but this was the best.

Paying money to watch naked women makes no sense to Dominicans. They have brothels where they bang attractive women. SD has some strip clubs but they have the added benefit of service if you see something you like. Some dance clubs have strippers come in on occasion and everybody loves it. I use to go to strip clubs in the US until I visited the DR. I save the money I would have wasted and fly to the DR where I can I have what I see in my bed. Most of the DR pros are nowhere near as hard core as our home grown putas.

[QUOTE=DavisDj;1980146]What are some of the other strip clubs in SD? That are not in seedy areas & good quality chicas.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1980449]Paying money to watch naked women makes no sense to Dominicans. They have brothels where they bang attractive women. SD has some strip clubs but they have the added benefit of service if you see something you like. Some dance clubs have strippers come in on occasion and everybody loves it. I use to go to strip clubs in the US until I visited the DR. I save the money I would have wasted and fly to the DR where I can I have what I see in my bed. Most of the DR pros are nowhere near as hard core as our home grown putas.[/QUOTE]Well said I was going to say the same. The Dominican culture has me spoiled. Never again can I go into a strip club in the US and feel the same after coming from the DR. Why waste your money watching a girl strip tease you when prostitution is legal. The average session is between $35 to $60 for an hour with the chica of your choice.

I paid $20 to enter a strip club in Atl 3 years ago. Not including parking fees. The girls want $10 to dance a 2 to 3 minute song. A coke is $5. Mix drink $10. 2 to 3 hours I am out $150 to $200 with a hard dick and no pussy. Now if I make it rain it's going to be with a handful of quarters and those hoes better duck.

[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;1979902]Lots of professional Puerto Rican businessman hang out there. They had a Brazilian in there so fine. Yes she was a 10+. Yes, you are going to pay for it and No there was not a Dominican in any other clubs that was as sexy. Trust me, my crew and I looked. Best encounters I have had in DR have ranged from 1 mil pesos to $350; Both worth the money.

Price is relative and I'm sick of budget mongers decrying a place based on a price. Here in Miami a group will intentionally keep a price high for a venue just to cull the clientele. It's like comparing Pricing of The Lexx to tootsies to back-page as a frame of reference.[/QUOTE]Well said Mr. Alex Deuce. And I second the motion. When will they learn that a that the Kia driver will always say the BMW driver paid too much for his car. Argue with me as much as you would like about they are both cars and they both get you to the same place. There is a difference it just that some do not have the driving skills or budget to appreciate the difference.

Ditto. Just save your pesos for the DR or Philippines where you get a lot of bangs for your bucks

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1980671]The Dominican culture has me spoiled. Never again can I go into a strip club in the US and feel the same after coming from the DR. Why waste your money .[/QUOTE].

So you guys who are paying premium prices for DR pussy are getting better nuts? I can see the value of an expensive car but pussy not so much. Sex is not a material thing. I liking it to a guy who goes to Ruth Chris and buys a whopper. He is sure that because he paid 30 bucks for it, it taste better. I paid 150 in Punta Cana on my 1 sr DR trip. I have received much better service for 1000 pesos. For snob value going to the DR and spending NY money makes you feel special enjoy. However what makes the DR special is is spending marginal dollars for a quality session.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1980680]Well said Mr. Alex Deuce. And I second the motion. When will they learn that a that the Kia driver will always say the BMW driver paid too much for his car. Argue with me as much as you would like about they are both cars and they both get you to the same place. There is a difference it just that some do not have the driving skills or budget to appreciate the difference.[/QUOTE]

You cannot compare visiting a strip club to banging an escort to getting a massage. Those are totally different experiences.

Sometimes you feel like seeing a bunch of naked women all around and watching them strip out of their clothes. Sometimes you feel like banging one chick. Sometimes you feel like doing nothing, just laying back and having the chick do all the work to massage you for 1+ hours.

It doesn't make sense to say strip clubs aren't worthwhile if you can find an escort. It depends what you are looking for? (That said FKK's do a pretty good job in blurring the lines).

[QUOTE=OldKool;1980449]Paying money to watch naked women makes no sense to Dominicans. They have brothels where they bang attractive women. SD has some strip clubs but they have the added benefit of service if you see something you like. Some dance clubs have strippers come in on occasion and everybody loves it. I use to go to strip clubs in the US until I visited the DR. I save the money I would have wasted and fly to the DR where I can I have what I see in my bed. Most of the DR pros are nowhere near as hard core as our home grown putas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JamesPearle;1980859]You cannot compare visiting a strip club to banging an escort to getting a massage. Those are totally different experiences.

Sometimes you feel like seeing a bunch of naked women all around and watching them strip out of their clothes. Sometimes you feel like banging one chick. Sometimes you feel like doing nothing, just laying back and having the chick do all the work to massage you for 1+ hours.

It doesn't make sense to say strip clubs aren't worthwhile if you can find an escort. It depends what you are looking for? (That said FKK's do a pretty good job in blurring the lines).[/QUOTE]I think it depends. Old Kool is trying to say (I think) that a lot of working men in the US go to strip clubs due to sexual frustration and end up paying a lot of money for not very much. That seemed to be the case when I lived in Jacksonville, which has many strip clubs, (none of which I ever entered) that are drab, windowless, smoky, bungalows with reinforced doors and parking lots wioth cracked asphalt that hold maybe a couple of dozen cars. Occasionally I would see single men sneaking from their car to the door in hope of a glimpse of titty or cop a feel in the back room from a tattooed skank. I would also sometimes see the girls arriving on the public bus hauling carry-ONS. (My job involved a lot of driving visiting clients in all sectors of the city.).

I just got the impression that these strip clubs were very joyless and expensive places, though it could be quite different elsewhere perhaps.

When I went down to Florida and Gogo took me to a strip club I was busy trying to negotiate the price for fucking. The girl kept telling me to get a couple of dances first then we could talk about it. I'm like what kind of fool do you think I am? Why spend money on dances first when that money can go toward fucking. I prefer to cut to the chase. Nobody I know of wants to go to a strip club just to see naked women. Somewhere in the back of their head will always be the idea of fucking the women they are seeing.

As far as a value perspective it holds as well. Pay $25 and look at all the food you want; or pay $25 and be able to eat the food you are looking at. Shit you can get the hooker to strip for you for the same price. Good luck trying to get the stripper to fuck for you for the same price.

Value is the same thing that got me to start renting cars in the DR. In Sosua I was paying a taxi I think $20 from the airport and $15 to the airport. I could just rent my own damn car for $23 per day and go where I wanted when I wanted.

Yet and still there are different strokes for different folks. I am sure there are many people who like to go to the car lot and look around without the notion of jumping in and test driving one.

Everything is relative. I love strip clubs. I visited Dollhouse last summer it was my first visit in a few years. But I currently go to a strip club in Santo Domingo under only one circunstance. Like much of us I also prefer to have sex with the chica of my choice. I have had marathons where one chica comes to my room, had sex, go out and next! Up to four chicas. Of course, I end tired and want to rest but no to sleep. What is better than resting inside of my room doing nothing? The answer is sitting in one of the very confortable seats that Dollhouse had sipping a beer while watching a hot body foreign girl stripping naked. Dollhouse is just an alternative I just want to have, just in case I am the mood for something else than sex.

I was a regional salesman for many years. I went to strip clubs all over the country. The were expensive and while take out was possible it was very expensive for quality. If we had any other options most would go out of business. I think because some guys are used to the American strip club model it is hard to get their arms around the DR seen. They are trained.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1981045]I think it depends. Old Kool is trying to say (I think) that a lot of working men in the US go to strip clubs due to sexual frustration and end up paying a lot of money for not very much. That seemed to be the case when I lived in Jacksonville, which has many strip clubs, (none of which I ever entered) that are drab, windowless, smoky, bungalows with reinforced doors and parking lots wioth cracked asphalt that hold maybe a couple of dozen cars. Occasionally I would see single men sneaking from their car to the door in hope of a glimpse of titty or cop a feel in the back room from a tattooed skank. I would also sometimes see the girls arriving on the public bus hauling carry-ONS. (My job involved a lot of driving visiting clients in all sectors of the city.).

I just got the impression that these strip clubs were very joyless and expensive places, though it could be quite different elsewhere perhaps.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1981055]When I went down to Florida and Gogo took me to a strip club I was busy trying to negotiate the price for fucking. The girl kept telling me to get a couple of dances first then we could talk about it. I'm like what kind of fool do you think I am? [/QUOTE]Surely it is the business model. The girls may have to sell so many dances on site to cover their own cost of participation. And if you bought a couple of dances, there is no guarantee that she would talk about doing anything else anyway. These places are just machines with a well-defined plan for separating punters from their money by offering a lot and delivering next to nothing. Now, there may be high end strip clubs in some places where people like the Kardashian boyfriends and other jetsetters go to drink champagne and spend hundreds of dollars a night whooping it up and partying, but I would think they are relatively few in number.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1981123]Surely it is the business model. The girls may have to sell so many dances on site to cover their own cost of participation. And if you bought a couple of dances, there is no guarantee that she would talk about doing anything else anyway. These places are just machines with a well-defined plan for separating punters from their money by offering a lot and delivering next to nothing. Now, there may be high end strip clubs in some places where people like the Kardashian boyfriends and other jetsetters go to drink champagne and spend hundreds of dollars a night whooping it up and partying, but I would think they are relatively few in number.[/QUOTE]No crap! Just like the casas are there to seperate you from your cash. On some nights you want to be teased and chill as you watch a sexy woman dance for you. Unlike America you have guaranteed take out and remedy for your desire if you want it. You also act like spending hundreds of dollars whooping, champagne and jetsetting (whatever that is) is a bad thing. Always some punter knocking another's hustle or idea of a good time. You could easily say that if your in Santo paying for it your the biggest sucker or gambles fool in the known world especially with all the women looking for an out.

[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;1981257]You also act like spending hundreds of dollars whooping, champagne and jetsetting (whatever that is) is a bad thing. Always some punter knocking another's hustle or idea of a good time[/QUOTE]Not at all. People spend huge amounts of money doing hobby things that I don't want to do all the time, for example shooting lions. Playing golf, deep sea fishing, watching tennis, going to football games, going to Broadway shows like Hamilton. They can do exactly what they want if they enjoy it. However that doesn't change my suspicion that most of those single men who visits strip clubs in the US don't really get the satisfaction they crave, or have a really fun time, or at least value for money for whatever it is that they do get.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1981055]When I went down to Florida and Gogo took me to a strip club I was busy trying to negotiate the price for fucking. The girl kept telling me to get a couple of dances first then we could talk about it. I'm like what kind of fool do you think I am? Why spend money on dances first when that money can go toward fucking. I prefer to cut to the chase. Nobody I know of wants to go to a strip club just to see naked women. Somewhere in the back of their head will always be the idea of fucking the women they are seeing.
[/QUOTE]Regarding strip clubs in Sex Prison:

I have only been to one strip club in my entire life, and that was in Hawaii long ago while stationed there. It's like you said: what't the point of going if you cannot fuck the women there? Even before I found out about mongering I was busy doing the [URL]Backpage.com[/URL] song and dance.

The only guys I knew that went to strip clubs were mostly married guys or guys in long term relationships. One buddy would tell me how he would hit them up on the way home from his job (he drove for UPS, and you know their work usually doesn't end until 8 pm) and try to fuck them in the club. The most he could muster is a hand job and occasionally some head. And I would laugh at how he would tell me that the hottest chicks in there would always say that any lap dance with them was a "3 song minimum", hahaha.

He used to love my stories and pics from Sosua. It was like a Scout Master telling stories around a campfire with the young scouts glaring up at him with intense curiosity. Poor sap.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1981465]Not at all. People spend huge amounts of money doing hobby things that I don't want to do all the time, for example shooting lions. Playing golf, deep sea fishing, watching tennis, going to football games, going to Broadway shows like Hamilton. They can do exactly what they want if they enjoy it. However that doesn't change my suspicion that most of those single men who visits strip clubs in the US don't really get the satisfaction they crave, or have a really fun time, or at least value for money for whatever it is that they do get.[/QUOTE]Of course buts not act like the ones that do or most likely can are some how ruining it for the others. Also, you don't know if they are or are not having a good time or satisfying their cravings. Value is subjective. I don't ever remember leaving this club built up or pent up.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1981533]Regarding strip clubs in Sex Prison:[/QUOTE]Curious your story, if as I recall, you are or were from Texas. I thought the Houston strip clubs were very different from anywhere else. I had a great time, on my several visits a decade ago or so and while sex would not always happen, I got lucky many, many times. The other place I think well of, is NC. Prior to this, I used to think only Toronto was better, given that with the gentrification of the North East cities, things only went south.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1981613]Curious your story, if as I recall, you are or were from Texas. I thought the Houston strip clubs were very different from anywhere else. I had a great time, on my several visits a decade ago or so and while sex would not always happen, I got lucky many, many times.[/QUOTE]You've got more experience than I do in that regard. And Houston strip clubs are notorious for getting raided by LE all the time. Like I mentioned, I didn't have any patience for "a hope and a prayer" and would just stick to Backpage.

[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;1981257] You could easily say that if your in Santo paying for it your the biggest sucker or gambles fool in the known world especially with all the women looking for an out.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say the biggest sucker, just a typical rookie. Don't worry, Santo Domingo is known to eat newbies alive. You'll learn in time.

One of the best times I ever had in a strip club was in Houston. They had a small room where you could take any girl working there and have your way. The girls were not bad over all. I took one back to my room for 100 bucks and got a very good session. The girl stole one of my business cards and sent me 6 nude pictures. If you could have seen my face when I opened up her letter at work. This same girl was staring in porn movies a year later with a set of 40 dd that were not there when we hooked up. As a traveling salesman who loved strip clubs at the time I met half a dozen girls who later became porn stars. I slept with 3. Some you may know from way back. Dynamite, Capitol Hill and Pardee I failed to mention that I have a small porn addiction. Houston is the exception to the rule. The DR cured me of my strip club habit.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1981656]You've got more experience than I do in that regard. And Houston strip clubs are notorious for getting raided by LE all the time. Like I mentioned, I didn't have any patience for "a hope and a prayer" and would just stick to Backpage.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1980853]So you guys who are paying premium prices for DR pussy are getting better nuts?[/QUOTE]Yes! But if you have no ability to discern the difference, no taste, nor the ability to make a valid comparison then I can understand why you don't understand Mr. Alex Deuce, or myself.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1980853]I can see the value of an expensive car but pussy not so much. Sex is not a material thing. I liking it to a guy who goes to Ruth Chris and buys a whopper. He is sure that because he paid 30 bucks for it, it taste better. I paid 150 in Punta Cana on my 1 sr DR trip. I have received much better service for 1000 pesos. For snob value going to the DR and spending NY money makes you feel special enjoy. However what makes the DR special is is spending marginal dollars for a quality session.[/QUOTE]In Punta Cana if you are on the tourist economy of course you are going to pay more for the same thing. There was a restaurant on resort row serving Dominican food. The exact same dishes I pay 100 pesos for in Santo Domingo in my favorite comedor were 500 pesos in the restaurant. Needless to say my travel partner and I did not eat there. That is a direct comparison!

The last time I was in Ruth Chris they did not sell a whopper. And although I can't remember exactly what I ordered, I can say I've never had a bad meal there. And I've never had a problem paying my bill when I received it. But hey, that's how I roll. But if you prefer Outback there is one in Acropolis mall here in Santo Domingo. They don't serve whoppers either. I've had a fine meal there too. Grab a hot chica and I'll meet you there for a beer. Chicas love those types of experiences.

So you have it in a nutshell (pun intended). Sometimes you are paying for experiences, sometime just a nut. The discussion on looking versus fucking is an example of this. Don't hate the player. If you must hate then hate motherfucking game my brother!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1981656]You've got more experience than I do in that regard. And Houston strip clubs are notorious for getting raided by LE all the time. Like I mentioned, I didn't have any patience for "a hope and a prayer" and would just stick to Backpage.[/QUOTE]I do not disagree with you in that the DR experience (or indeed other South American experiences) is way better than US strip clubs or back page. I was merely stating that if one must, Houston (is) was the place to go (thanks Old Kool, for confirming that). On the other hand, I have no issue with people who in the DR want to go to a strip club: their money, their choice! My thing is in getting lucky in a regular place, ideally with a regular woman. I sure wish I lived there so I could space it better. For after 4-5 days, I have run out of bodily fluids!

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1981665]I wouldn't say the biggest sucker, just a typical rookie. Don't worry, Santo Domingo is known to eat newbies alive. You'll learn in time.[/QUOTE]There is always something to learn. I just find it arrogant to castigate another man's hustle or likes.

I just booked a trip to Santo Domingo. I am staying in Old town. I am reading up on the forum. I went a few years ago, I met a DC girl, got a BJ in the park next to the Aquarium. She wasn't bad, but didn't look quite like the photos. She wanted to hook up again, but I didn't do it. I have 4 full days, wanted to know if anyone had tips to help the odds of success of meeting girls on DC, Badoo, willing to play. Any age is fine for me. I would like to mix "regular" girls with the casas, unless I have real good luck on the dating sites. I haven't seen much current info on the dating sites.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1981665], Santo Domingo is known to eat newbies alive.[/QUOTE]Wasn't my experience, Park, but maybe I just got lucky. Met a DC babe there the first time two years ago and now have been back five times since to see her, two other regulars and lots of new talent. I don't do the casas. Not bad for a guy who doesn't speak much Spanish and is 61. The Venezuelans that are walking about Calle Conde are awesome, too.

I know how you roll. I have seen some of your girls. I am also 61 and never dream I could have the action the DR provides.

[QUOTE=DCups;1985770]Wasn't my experience, Park, but maybe I just got lucky. Met a DC babe there the first time two years ago and now have been back five times since to see her, two other regulars and lots of new talent. I don't do the casas. Not bad for a guy who doesn't speak much Spanish and is 61. The Venezuelans that are walking about Calle Conde are awesome, too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1981668]One of the best times I ever had in a strip club was in Houston. They had a small room where you could take any girl working there and have your way. The girls were not bad over all. I took one back to my room for 100 bucks and got a very good session. The girl stole one of my business cards and sent me 6 nude pictures. If you could have seen my face when I opened up her letter at work. This same girl was staring in porn movies a year later with a set of 40 dd that were not there when we hooked up. As a traveling salesman who loved strip clubs at the time I met half a dozen girls who later became porn stars. I slept with 3. Some you may know from way back. Dynamite, Capitol Hill and Pardee I failed to mention that I have a small porn addiction. Houston is the exception to the rule. The DR cured me of my strip club habit.[/QUOTE]I did not know the Houston scene was so raucous, because I've been up here in Dallas, which is / was also known for its strip clubs. The best I ever got out of the local strip clubs was a rough around the edges, stripper from San Diego, who thought I resembled her ex-lover. She not only left the club with me, but she paid for the motel. That was in the late 70's and I have not been able to repeat that experience. Though I did get a dry handjob during a lab dance at a Dallas club right my divorce in 2015. Didn't exactly request a hand job, much less negotiate a price, so she was SOL when she asked me for $100 after the fact.

I have known of a number of nice looking girls "who were working their way through college" by dancing at strip clubs, via social channels rather than attendance of those clip joints. But, the smartest woman I ever met. She thought like a man, hence she was smarter than the average woman. Was also a dancer at a high-end Dallas club. Instead of blowing her money on clothes, drugs or boyfriends, she saved it and listened to all the businessmen whose laps she sat on. She learned how to invest in real estate, she learned how to trade stocks, and she learned how to be financially independent. She was the 1% among strippers. I ran into a 49 year old alumni of the same upscale "gentleman's club" my successful ladyfriend, while watching a Queen cover band at a local club. What a judgmental piece of shit she was. Also claimed to have danced at the same place in order to "put herself through college", but derided strip club patrons as disgusting men, even though they have shelled out their hard-earned money to put her through college. We went out a few times, and on the second date she sucked me off like a pro, swallowing without hesitation. I could tell, she had lots of experience. But, when I pointed out I knew girls who danced at the same club around the same time as her through my social circle, she got defensive. She accused me of being a strip club patron (you know, those guys who put girls like her through college) and denied knowing the girls I knew. She also got offended when I said that strippers were "sex workers". She sent me a breakup email (though we were never an item) while I was en route to Berlin in October of 2015. She couldn't tell me on the phone when I was texting her at the airport. She sent some be, s. How she couldn't be my girlfriend (I never asked to be my girlfriend) and I got the text when I landed in Amsterdam. I was thinking it was cowardly, but I was a free man again. Then the pretty KLM stewardesses got my attention and mentioned the other passengers had left the plane. Indeed, everyone else had gotten off the plane while I was reading text messages. I decided when I got to Berlin. I've been mongering ever since.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1981884]. For after 4-5 days, I have run out of bodily fluids![/QUOTE]I know what you mean, T! That's why I am opting for shorter (5 - 6 day), more frequent visits than the 10 - 14 days I used to do! These caliente young chicas will bang you until you can't anymore but that is not a complaint! Glad to see you're still going to DR. You were so helpful to me on my first visit to Santiago and Sosua!

[QUOTE=OldKool;1985775]I know how you roll. I have seen some of your girls. I am also 61 and never dream I could have the action the DR provides.[/QUOTE]Thanks, OK, right back atcha buddy. Hope to see you when I am there April 1 -7 or May 9 - 14. Let's kill some presidentes at Pacos while watching the sexi ones strut their stuff up Calle Conde.

[QUOTE=DCups;1985959]I know what you mean, T! That's why I am opting for shorter (5 - 6 day), more frequent visits than the 10 - 14 days I used to do! These caliente young chicas will bang you until you can't anymore but that is not a complaint! Glad to see you're still going to DR. You were so helpful to me on my first visit to Santiago and Sosua![/QUOTE]Haha, that's the way the cookie crumbles. I mean Asia is too far and is impossible to fly back and forth. I even think of doing Colombia, Ecuador and Peru but then, this place is so close, so, so far I have not been able to do anything else.

Does anyone have a casa to recommend other than Casa Teresa, la Casita Azul or any of the brothels on Independencia? I'm looking for a higher-end place with Venezuelans and Colombians in addition to Dominicans. Any info would be great.

El Conde can be a great place. Chicas know they can go there to hook up with a touristotal for quick cash. The malls are flush with willing talent. Little cash and Spanish the world is your oyster.

[QUOTE=DCups;1985963]Thanks, OK, right back atcha buddy. Hope to see you when I am there April 1 -7 or May 9 - 14. Let's kill some presidentes at Pacos while watching the sexi ones strut their stuff up Calle Conde.[/QUOTE]

Hello to all,

I'm pretty new to this Forum. I'm amazed at the wealth of information here. There is information about all of the places that I have dreams or wishes of visiting. Right now, I'm hooked on the Dominican Republic. I can't get enough of that island. I have 5 trips under my belt. My first trip started with a visit to Bonao in July 2015 and since then, I've visited the DR with every ounce of vacation time that I've had. I was supposed to visit a week ago but had to cancel because of a family emergency. My next trip will be in May.

Since I know that I will scour this site for information, I will at least offer my own trip report. I will start by posting my first trip ever to Santo Domingo in October 2016. Let me add a disclaimer. This report was already posted on a different Forum. There will be references to Forum Members but they are from the other forum and not members here. There may also be references to info gathered on the other Forum. I will be just copying and pasting.

I really enjoyed Santo Domingo. After visiting there, I can see that I can do everything that I want in SD. I don't really have to go to Sosua again if I choose not to. I was only in SD for 2 days but I felt a good vibe from the city and will return for a couple of days in May before I hit Sosua.

Here is my Santo Domingo trip report:

On this day, I was headed to Santo Domingo. I remember telling Leona about my plans to go to Jetset in Santo Domingo. She is from Santo Domingo. Her eyes lit up when I mentioned Jetset. I asked her to come with me. She said that she couldn't. She had to work and she already had a trip home planned for her birthday in November. I really wanted her to come with me. She was good company.

I got packed and I took a Taxi to the Bus Station and bought my ticket to Santo Domingo. It is time to board the the bus. There is a woman in front of me in the line to get on the Bus.

I like her little shape. I peeped her earlier. She turns around. She had on shades and she tips them down a little bit from her eyes and checks me out. She then says, in English, I will find a seat for us. I say OK. She speaks very good English. She is an average looking woman but kinda cute. I would tap it. She is from Santiago. She was full of personality. She made the bus ride fun. I took her number.

The bus arrives in Santo Domingo and the first thing that I notice is the traffic. It is crazy. I arrived at the apartment that I rented. This is a nice apartment and is in a good location. I was all set to stay at Jaragua and then something told me to go to airbnb. I came across this listing. I looked at the first two pictures with the view of the ocean and immediately booked it without looking at the details. For the price, I thought that it was a nice, luxury 1 bedroom apartment. It ended up being a 4 bedroom 3 and a half bath apartment. This apartment was tight. I will post some pictures of it. This building has very tight security.

What happens next was an I can't believe this is fucking happening moment. I was going to go take pictures of the pool area. I was going to leave the door unlocked. This particular door locks automatically when it is closed. I flip this little switch thinking it would leave the door unlocked. I verified it but the switch actually activated this other little bolt. I closed the door and went to grab my phone. I try to open the door and it won't open. I'm fucking locked in this apartment. I've only been at this apartment for 30 minutes and now I'm locked the fuck in. There is no way I can get out and no one can open the door from the other side even if they had a key. I'm on the 10th floor. I didn't know WTF to do. I was not about to call the host just yet. She was probably halfway back to Nagua by now. I didn't want to call security either. I just sat down for a couple of minutes and assessed the situation. I went to the door and looked at the whole mechanism. I remembered a similar situation where I had to break into a room with the same type of locking mechanism. I'm not a criminal. Lmao. I was able to get the door open. Only damage done was to a butter knife. You talk about being relieved! The rest of my stay at that apartment, I was nervous every time I opened and closed that door.

I'm very hungry at this point. I remembered seeing Adrian Tropical on the way to the apartment. I headed there. I've heard it mentioned on the forum several times. It is a nice restaurant. It catches a nice ocean breeze. I ate there everyday while I was in Santo Domingo. They give large portions of food. I would buy one meal and it was enough food for the whole day for me. I would always have to get a to go plate.

I went to a Colmado to buy some Brugal. I got back to the apartment and Security actually went through my bag. Tripped me out. I dropped off the drinks in the apartment and then headed out. I needed to hit up an ATM so I asked the Security Guard if he knew if there was a Banco Popular nearby. He said that he got off work in a few minutes and he would show me where the ATM was. We set out walking. I'm tripping about how many people are out and about. I can tell that Santo Domingo is a very busy city. I'm seeing all of these nice looking women everywhere. We finally arrive at the ATM and WTF do I see? A Subway! I had no idea that Santo Domingo had a Subway System. Tripped me out. We went to a bar and had a couple of drinks. My plan for the night was to go to Jetset. He said that he would go with me. We headed back to the apartment building and parted ways. He never got back with me about going to Jetset but we would hangout the next night.

I took a taxi to Jetset. When you go to Jetset, there is a ticket counter to the right of the front door. I bought my ticket and went in. I'm among the first to arrive. I found a seat in the corner and proceeded to get my drink on.

I can't remember the name of the Band but they put on a good show. There were a lot of beautiful women in Jetset that night. I'm pretty sure that I was the only single guy and the only Gringo. There were a lot of bottle-popping couples and a few large groups. I was just there for the experience and to enjoy the show.

I left Jetset before the Concert was over. I caught a cab and asked the driver to take me to Casa Rosales. I forgot to refer back to a post here about spots in SD for the name of the casas. I was supposed to say Casa Rosario. He took me to a Casa called Foxy's. I didn't find that out until the next day.

I walk in Foxy's and take a seat. An amazing line-up of women appear in front of me. Somewhere between 10-15 women I think. I met eyes with this light brown skinned chica with her head shaved short on one side. She was looking sexy as hell to me so I chose her. I paid my money and off we go.

Foxy's has its own rooms. They are small rooms with a curtain as the door. I didn't really like that but no one bothered us though. Someone only came to the door twice alerting of closing time and to ask if I wanted to spend more time with the Chica.

I will call this chica Lisa. Lisa is about 5'6. She is slim with small tits but has big nipples like I like. She is sexy to me. This woman totally aimed to please. When the man came to ask if I wanted more time with Lisa, there was no question about it. I think I was with her 2 hours. I would've stayed with her longer but they closed. I tried to get her to leave with me but she said that she couldn't. She gave me her facebook info. I left Foxy's with a big smile on my face. I was going to try to connect with her during the day the next day. I hit her up the next morning but she didn't contact me until the night.

Now it is Tuesday. I went to Adrian Tropical and had lunch. The plan for the day was to checkout a mall and then get a Nuru gel massage. I was very intrigued when I read Caramello's trip report.

I took a taxi to Agora Mall. This is a pretty big mall. Has about 5 floors. Has plenty of food choices. I walked around for awhile and enjoyed the eye candy. My appointment for the massage was at 4. I ate a little something and then took a taxi to the Nuru spot.

I arrive at the Nuru spot. It is located in a very unassuming building complex. I was wondering if the driver had me in the right place. I go to the door. You ring a doorbell / camera and then they let you in. I kinda surprised them because I was early for my appointment. There was 6 women for me to choose from. I saw two that I was having a hard time choosing between. One was a little petite yellow bone and the other a pretty caramel toned woman. I chose caramel.

Caramello already described the details to a tee in his trip report of the experience that you receive. The thorough wash down that you get before you lay down for the gel session was amazing to me. I believe that I may have chose the same woman that Caramello did. The moves that the woman did that he described in his trip report, the woman that was with me performed them. This woman found the most sensitive parts of my body and she exploited them. She would move a certain way that almost made me bust and then stop. At the same time she would give sexy moans. Finally she used her hand and pulled everything out of me that I had. She cleaned me up and then moved slowly and relaxingly about my whole body. The gel session ends and you get another thorough wash down. It was an amazing experience. So much so that I would go back the next day. I wanted an experience with the petite yellow bone.

I told the driver that dropped me off at the Nuru spot to come back for me in an hour. He picked me up and I had him drop me off at Jaragua. I wanted to at least see the spot that I had thought about staying at and to also see the Casino there. I'm not a gambler. I walked around a little bit and then chilled at the Bar in Jaragua. I had a couple of too expensive drinks for what they were. LOL. I leave Jaragua. I was about to take a Taxi back to the apartment but I looked at the traffic. It was ridiculous. I went ahead and walked to the apartment. It took me 17 minutes to walk. It would've taken me who knows how long in a Taxi.

I finally arrive at the apartment building. My Security Guard buddy is on post. We planned to hangout for the night. He says that he will be off soon and that he will come up to the apartment to get me when he is done with his shift. He shows up and we get our walk on. We walked to a certain location and a friend of his picked us up in his car. He had been telling me about a spot that he goes to for women. He said that the price was cheap. I don't know the name. I can't remember the price that he told me that he normally pays but it was cheap. We arrive at the spot. We walk in and there are not too many women out. Once inside, it looks like a strip club type of spot. The women eventually came out of the woodworks. They didn't line up around the stage to be chosen but just chilled in the cut or just walked around. This was a very small place. Not too many women. I could tell that he has been to the spot a lot. A few women came and sat around us. There were women there that I could've chosen if I needed to get my rocks off. There were no stunners in there. While at the spot, I received a message from Lisa from last night at Foxy's. I got excited. I told my friend that I was ready to leave because I needed to meet someone. We went back to the apartment building.

I asked Lisa where she was. She said she was at work at Foxy's. That is when I found out that I didn't go to Casa Rosario the night before. I went ahead and caught a Taxi. I really wanted to go be with Lisa again but told the driver to take me to Casa Rosario.

I walked in and took a seat. The women lined up. This was a very impressive lineup of women. This was the best lineup that I saw on this trip to the DR. It was very hard to choose from this lineup. I finally chose this short, very cute, light-skinned and very well put together woman. She reminds of this actress / model named Angelle Brooks in her younger days. Casa Rosario has rooms on site. We got our session in and she did not disappoint. The session was on par with my session with Lisa the night before. I'm going to say it was better. I took a Taxi home and passed out.

Today is Wednesday and I am leaving SD to stay a day in Santiago. I woke up early as usual and hit up an ATM. I then had breakfast at a restaurant that was recommended to me by my host. I recommend it also. I enjoyed the food. The name is Villar Hermano. My original plan was to leave on the first bus to Santiago but I wanted another Nuru gel massage. I wanted an experience with that petite yellow bone. I made my appointment for 12. I arrive and the yellow bone is not there. There is only one masajista available. She is cute enough. I enjoyed the session but it was not as good as the one from the day before. I left there and headed to the Bus Station to go to Santiago.

[QUOTE=DCups;1985770]Wasn't my experience, Park, but maybe I just got lucky.[/QUOTE]Nah, man you didn't get lucky. It's a mindset that Santo Domingo is hard and other locations in Republica Dominicana are easy. Santo Domingo is not hard if you know what you are doing. My very first time in Santo Domingo (Over 6 years ago) within two hours of wheels down I was fucking a chica I met on the way back to the hotel after running a quick errand. And I didn't have any Spanish back then either.

That's why I tell my brothers, if you must hate, don't hate the player, hate the motherfucking game (or your lack of it)!

Here are some Pictures from that trip.

I enjoyed your report. I think I stayed in the same apartment across the street from the Holiday Inn. 10 floor, balcony whirlpool bath in the master bedroom. I had 2 guys with me. We paid 150 a night for the place. You most have some deep pockets. The casas were asking 120 for ST. How much was the massage. It sounds like a bucket list option.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1987640]I enjoyed your report. I think I stayed in the same apartment across the street from the Holiday Inn. 10 floor, balcony whirlpool bath in the master bedroom. I had 2 guys with me. We paid 150 a night for the place. You most have some deep pockets. The casas were asking 120 for ST. How much was the massage. It sounds like a bucket list option.[/QUOTE]Thanks OldKool. Originally I was supposed to stay at Hotel Riazor. I was thinking about it and said screw it, I'll splurge a little bit this trip. Like I said, I was all set to stay at Jaragua and it was going to be $145 a night. The apartment building that I stayed in is called Torre Veiramar. It is right near the Malecon Center. That apartment worked out to $120 per night. The Nuru massage is $2500 pesos. I would recommend it at least one time. Ask for Nelly. She won't disappoint.

[QUOTE=OnTime121;1987554]
I really enjoyed Santo Domingo. After visiting there, I can see that I can do everything that I want in SD. I don't really have to go to Sosua again if I choose not to. I was only in SD for 2 days but I felt a good vibe from the city and will return for a couple of days in May before I hit Sosua.
[/QUOTE]Excellent report amigo. Appreciate you taking the time to share with us.

[QUOTE=StrokenBlkMan;1975430]I will be coming to DR / SD, in the last week of January. All of February - 1 week of March, any ex-pats from the east coast? NY, Jersey, Philly, wash DC, conn, mass, pa can chat? Was thinking about maybe retiring, would love to chat and find out about, how is it living there?

Thanks,

Strokenblkman[/QUOTE]I've been living in SD for the past year. I rented a 3/3 apt in Gazcue for $900/ month cable / internet included. Very good building with 24/ HR doorman. I live with my Dominican GF who I've known for 4 years. Gazcue is relatively safe and near a lot of govt buildings and close to the universities. Plenty of eye candy walking around all day long. I haven't got in any side action because my GF keeps a close watch on me and knows that there are many Dominicans looking for a gringo boyfriend. I've been approached almost every time I'm out at night either on the El Conde or in Jaragua. At night I see a lot of girls along Ave. Independencia and the Malecon. If you are looking for adventure there is a small town southwest of Santo Domingo by the name of Nizao where my GF told me there's been a recent influx of Venezuelan chicas working the bars near the river. This is the town where Vladimir Guerrero is from and his house is on a hill with the number '27' carved out on the side of the hill. The chicas are probably very cheap there. Health care is very inexpensive. I don't have insurance but have been to a couple of exceptional doctors. The most I was charged was $100 for an extensive office visit. Fruit and vegetables very inexpensive here. Taxis are cheap if you stay away from the ripoffs along El Conde who charge double or triple. Extremely humid from June through October. We had the A / see on full time during those months but the electric bill never got over $100. Everyone is very friendly and patient with my poor Spanish but I'm getting better everyday. Boca Chica is a den of thieves and you need to be very careful there. It can be exciting though. Some nice cheap chicas available but you will be hounded by vendors on the beach and beggars on the street. I met a gullible Canadian there one time and he ended up surrounded and isolated at a beach bar by 6 or 7 Dominicans and was forced to pay $60 for a cocktail. All in all it is a very stress free life here. Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;1978251]Has anyone been in this hotel? Good reviews on tripadvisor for 70 $ in zona colonial.

Guest friendly?[/QUOTE]I'm am staying there right now for a couple of weeks. Not chica friendly but the security is lax and you might be able to sneak one in. It's a be&be with mostly couples. I have the smallest room for $200/ week.

I arrive at the Nuru spot. It is located in a very unassuming building complex. I was wondering if the driver had me in the right place. I go to the door. You ring a doorbell / camera and then they let you in. I kinda surprised them because I was early for my appointment. There was 6 women for me to choose from. I saw two that I was having a hard time choosing between. One was a little petite yellow bone and the other a pretty caramel toned woman. I chose caramel.

Thanks for the report, heading there soon. What is the name of the Nuru place?

[QUOTE=George03;1987740]I arrive at the Nuru spot. It is located in a very unassuming building complex. I was wondering if the driver had me in the right place. I go to the door. You ring a doorbell / camera and then they let you in. I kinda surprised them because I was early for my appointment. There was 6 women for me to choose from. I saw two that I was having a hard time choosing between. One was a little petite yellow bone and the other a pretty caramel toned woman. I chose caramel.

Thanks for the report, heading there soon. What is the name of the Nuru place?[/QUOTE]The name is Odisea Spa.

[QUOTE=BocaBill;1987734]I've been living in SD for the past year. I rented a 3/3 apt in Gazcue for $900/ month cable / internet included. Very good building with 24/ HR doorman. I live with my Dominican GF who I've known for 4 years. Gazcue is relatively safe and near a lot of govt buildings and close to the universities. Plenty of eye candy walking around all day long. I haven't got in any side action because my GF keeps a close watch on me and knows that there are many Dominicans looking for a gringo boyfriend. I've been approached almost every time I'm out at night either on the El Conde or in Jaragua. At night I see a lot of girls along Ave. Independencia and the Malecon. If you are looking for adventure there is a small town southwest of Santo Domingo by the name of Nizao where my GF told me there's been a recent influx of Venezuelan chicas working the bars near the river. This is the town where Vladimir Guerrero is from and his house is on a hill with the number '27' carved out on the side of the hill. The chicas are probably very cheap there. Health care is very inexpensive. I don't have insurance but have been to a couple of exceptional doctors. The most I was charged was $100 for an extensive office visit. Fruit and vegetables very inexpensive here. Taxis are cheap if you stay away from the ripoffs along El Conde who charge double or triple. Extremely humid from June through October. We had the A / see on full time during those months but the electric bill never got over $100. Everyone is very friendly and patient with my poor Spanish but I'm getting better everyday. Boca Chica is a den of thieves and you need to be very careful there. It can be exciting though. Some nice cheap chicas available but you will be hounded by vendors on the beach and beggars on the street. I met a gullible Canadian there one time and he ended up surrounded and isolated at a beach bar by 6 or 7 Dominicans and was forced to pay $60 for a cocktail. All in all it is a very stress free life here. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Is $900/ month apartment furnished, can you rent 1 month at a time any furnished apartment in the same building?

You can find monthly rates for furnished rooms and apartments on the Internet. Search for 'apartahotels' + Santo Domingo. You can also find furnished long term rentals on airbnb. Familiarize yourself with a map of the city if you have an idea where you want to live, then use the map to cross reference the deals you find.

[QUOTE=Ozzie1451;1988308]Is $900/ month apartment furnished, can you rent 1 month at a time any furnished apartment in the same building?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BocaBill;1987734]I've been living in SD for the past year. I rented a 3/3 apt in Gazcue for $900/ month cable / internet included. Very good building with 24/ HR doorman. I live with my Dominican GF who I've known for 4 years. Gazcue is relatively safe and near a lot of govt buildings and close to the universities. Plenty of eye candy walking around all day long. I haven't got in any side action because my GF keeps a close watch on me and knows that there are many Dominicans looking for a gringo boyfriend. I've been approached almost every time I'm out at night either on the El Conde or in Jaragua. At night I see a lot of girls along Ave. Independencia and the Malecon. If you are looking for adventure there is a small town southwest of Santo Domingo by the name of Nizao where my GF told me there's been a recent influx of Venezuelan chicas working the bars near the river. This is the town where Vladimir Guerrero is from and his house is on a hill with the number '27' carved out on the side of the hill. The chicas are probably very cheap there. Health care is very inexpensive. I don't have insurance but have been to a couple of exceptional doctors. The most I was charged was $100 for an extensive office visit. Fruit and vegetables very inexpensive here. Taxis are cheap if you stay away from the ripoffs along El Conde who charge double or triple. Extremely humid from June through October. We had the A / see on full time during those months but the electric bill never got over $100. Everyone is very friendly and patient with my poor Spanish but I'm getting better everyday. Boca Chica is a den of thieves and you need to be very careful there. It can be exciting though. Some nice cheap chicas available but you will be hounded by vendors on the beach and beggars on the street. I met a gullible Canadian there one time and he ended up surrounded and isolated at a beach bar by 6 or 7 Dominicans and was forced to pay $60 for a cocktail. All in all it is a very stress free life here. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Damn good report BocaBill! And a refreshing break from the constant negativity proffered by the critical crew. Keep up the good work. Glad you are enjoying the city like I am!

SD has many options for rentals. She had a nice 3 bedroom house for 350 a month. She wanted to move to a new highrise apartment for 400 a month. 900 a month is a gringo price for SD.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1988893]Damn good report BocaBill! And a refreshing break from the constant negativity proffered by the critical crew. Keep up the good work. Glad you are enjoying the city like I am![/QUOTE]

Help the guy out, tell him where the $400 apartment is. If it's in a nice section of Gazcue near Avenida Francia like the $900 "gringo price" you might have a point. Do you have a point?

[QUOTE=OldKool;1989348]SD has many options for rentals. She had a nice 3 bedroom house for 350 a month. She wanted to move to a new highrise apartment for 400 a month. 900 a month is a gringo price for SD.[/QUOTE]

$500 will get a livable 2 or 3 bedroom apartment in a do it yourself building (no doorman / security or on property maintenance guy), especially west of Gomez or of course on the east side of the river. It depends on whether or not you mind Colmados and loud music. You have to pay a little extra to be on a few streets away from them.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1989348]SD has many options for rentals. She had a nice 3 bedroom house for 350 a month. She wanted to move to a new highrise apartment for 400 a month. 900 a month is a gringo price for SD.[/QUOTE]

$500 - $600 will get you a ocean view apartment with 24 hour security and two covered parking spaces in Santo Domingo Este. And no motherfucker, I do not have do not have to put up with loud music or Colmados. And before one of you critical motherfuckers try to challenge my "facts" if you don't live in Santo Domingo right now you're not in the position to tell anyone anything about real estate.

You aren't going to find a market price on an apartment on the internet. What you will find is jacked up prices aimed at gringos. Want to find a good deal on an apartment in Santo Domingo? Better have boots on the ground or a lovely chica to "front" for you. Because if you don't they are going to get so deep in your ass you won't need to go for your next regular colonoscopy. Just ask them for a report. LOL!

If you must hate, don't hate the player, hate the motherfucking game, my brother.

I think I mentioned you would need to be on the east side of the river to get the deal you described. We agree about that. The foul and aggressive language you used doesn't make your points more convincing. The east side is not for me but I think it's terrific that it works for others. My advice to the guy who asked for help was to use the Internet to get familiar different neighborhoods. Everyone gets to decide for themselves. To the guy who asked the questions originally, feel free to instant message me. I promise I won't curse you out.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1989586]$500 - $600 will get you a ocean view apartment with 24 hour security and two covered parking spaces in Santo Domingo Este. And no motherfucker, I do not have do not have to put up with loud music or Colmados. And before one of you critical motherfuckers try to challenge my "facts" if you don't live in Santo Domingo right now you're not in the position to tell anyone anything about real estate.

You aren't going to find a market price on an apartment on the internet. What you will find is jacked up prices aimed at gringos. Want to find a good deal on an apartment in Santo Domingo? Better have boots on the ground or a lovely chica to "front" for you. Because if you don't they are going to get so deep in your ass you won't need to go for your next regular colonoscopy. Just ask them for a report. LOL!

If you must hate, don't hate the player, hate the motherfucking game, my brother.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ozzie1451;1988308]Is $900/ month apartment furnished, can you rent 1 month at a time any furnished apartment in the same building?[/QUOTE]Yes, the apt was furnished with 2 flat screen TVs, refrig, stove, hot water heater, ceiling fans, A / C, sofa, dining table, washer / dryer. The building manager told me when I left that she has short term smaller furnished apt available if I needed it. I was surprised that I received my full deposit back. I had heard horror stories about not getting the deposit back down here. I know there are cheaper alternatives but I was pressed for time and needed to get into an apt soon. There are plenty of apt here in SD and more being built as I speak.

First of all, it's not the east side. Santo Domingo is a municipality. And Santo Domingo Este is a separate municipality. Only the uninformed don't know this.

To the guy that originally asked the question, feel free to private message me if you want to know about Santo Domingo Este (The Municipality that is not for Mr. Knowledge). IMO simply saying something isn't for you does not add any useful information to the discussion. And if you want some book knowledge by all means continue to "Use the Internet to get familiar different neighborhoods" (Damn that's bad usage of the English language. But it's least it's not aggressive or profane). LOL!

I have searched for apartments in Santo Domingo proper. I have visited friends in Santo Domingo proper. And my observations are you should live in Gazcue, Naco, or Piantini, if you want to be around people that walk around with their nose in the air and think they are better than everyone else because they have a few more pesos to rub together. That's what you are really paying for over there. And if that is your personality you might think you will fit in very well over there. But don't get it twisted my brother. No matter how much money you have you will always be a gringo. And get in the wrong building and start running ho's out that place and see what the neighbors begin thinking of you. Cause they got cash over there and they could give a fuck if you do too. Add to the fact that the girls over there are stuck the fuck up. But they do have the advantage of having jobs and being in general responsible contributors to society.

Yeah man. It's nice over there. And if you got it like that the roll like a big dog my brother. I prefer being hood rich on the east side but I'm used to that kind of thing. (Soy tan barrio. I'm so hood). But don't think there are not barrios, colmados and people playing loud music over there. As much as have just painted a broad brush over an area similar to Mr. Knowledge. I know it's not all exactly the same. I've have been in barrios over there with colmados and loud music. The place where the forgotten people are making their way through life amid great wealth (no I'm not talking about the United States of America).

Read this carefully Mr. Knowledge, because this is an example of sharing information instead to just referring people to the internet which is a useless exercise. More than any other place I've ever lived it's impossible to really get a good idea of what is going in a barrio unless you are there. If you must hate my brother, don't hate the player, hate the motherfucking game!

Mr. Knowledge, on a forum with the express purpose of facilitating the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women, you find a bit of profanity offensive? If you want the kings English spoken to you while receiving information join a debate club. Or for that matter fuck a girl from England. Nothing like hearing dirty talk with that accent. Makes my dick hard just thinking about my experiences with that again. But I digress. Here we are Men in the Arena. We search, we approach and we fuck the pussy! I don't give a fuck if you don't like the language contained in my posts (why? Because others do). So, save yourself some grief, angst (and a possible apoplectic fit), Put me on ignore and don't read my shit!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1989353]Do you have a point?[/QUOTE]Answer you own question. Do you have a point? Do have something to contribute to this discussion that will actually increase the knowledge of the individual that is reading it?

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1989738]I think I mentioned you would need to be on the east side of the river to get the deal you described. We agree about that. The foul and aggressive language you used doesn't make your points more convincing. The east side is not for me but I think it's terrific that it works for others. My advice to the guy who asked for help was to use the Internet to get familiar different neighborhoods. Everyone gets to decide for themselves. To the guy who asked the questions originally, feel free to instant message me. I promise I won't curse you out.[/QUOTE]

It's OK I honestly don't mind. Thanks for the advice, I hope you carry on writing anything you like.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1989976]First of all, it's not the east side. Santo Domingo is a municipality. And Santo Domingo Este is a separate municipality. Only the uninformed don't know this.

To the guy that originally asked the question, feel free to private message me if you want to know about Santo Domingo Este (The Municipality that is not for Mr. Knowledge). IMO simply saying something isn't for you does not add any useful information to the discussion. And if you want some book knowledge by all means continue to "Use the Internet to get familiar different neighborhoods" (Damn that's bad usage of the English language. But it's least it's not aggressive or profane). LOL!

I have searched for apartments in Santo Domingo proper. I have visited friends in Santo Domingo proper. And my observations are you should live in Gazcue, Naco, or Piantini, if you want to be around people that walk around with their nose in the air and think they are better than everyone else because they have a few more pesos to rub together. That's what you are really paying for over there. And if that is your personality you might think you will fit in very well over there. But don't get it twisted my brother. No matter how much money you have you will always be a gringo. And get in the wrong building and start running ho's out that place and see what the neighbors begin thinking of you. Cause they got cash over there and they could give a fuck if you do too. Add to the fact that the girls over there are stuck the fuck up. But they do have the advantage of having jobs and being in general responsible contributors to society.

Yeah man. It's nice over there...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BocaBill;1987736]I'm am staying there right now for a couple of weeks. Not chica friendly but the security is lax and you might be able to sneak one in. It's a be&be with mostly couples. I have the smallest room for $200/ week.[/QUOTE]I stand corrected. This morning while having breakfast this petite Haitian girl who works a few doors down comes walking out of one of the ground floor rooms. I asked one of the workers here if that isn't the girl who works nearby and he says yes. I asked what was she doing here and he says she was just have 'nightly relations' with the guy in the room. So I guess this place is chica friendly after all.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1989586]$500 - $600 will get you a ocean view apartment with 24 hour security and two covered parking spaces in Santo Domingo Este. And no motherfucker, I do not have do not have to put up with loud music or Colmados. And before one of you critical motherfuckers try to challenge my "facts" if you don't live in Santo Domingo right now you're not in the position to tell anyone anything about real estate.

You aren't going to find a market price on an apartment on the internet. What you will find is jacked up prices aimed at gringos. Want to find a good deal on an apartment in Santo Domingo? Better have boots on the ground or a lovely chica to "front" for you. Because if you don't they are going to get so deep in your ass you won't need to go for your next regular colonoscopy. Just ask them for a report. LOL!

If you must hate, don't hate the player, hate the motherfucking game, my brother.[/QUOTE]Unless you are in painting or naco you will deal with loud noise eventually. Whether the colmado, idiots with loud cars and stereos, vendors yelling aguacate every 10 minutes etc. As far as market prices, you can find them online. I do it all the time. You may find "steals" or below market value by networking. Have seen that as well. Maybe you can turn it down a notch or two.

Remember there are gringos that have lived here 10,15 20 or 40 years that do not post here often. They don't need to.

Why are we talking about apartment rentals in the first place? Because a member asked a question about it. Objection: Badgering the witness. Sustained. Question was asked and answered counsel. Move on!

Because this a forum for the sharing of information among men who want to have sex with woman, one might ask: Are questions about apartments a relevant discussion? Yes, it most certainly is. Logistics matter! And if the location where you live facilitates your objective of getting PoF (Panties on Floor) then an exchange of information on this subject is important.

The statements made here previously were (although representative of the writer's opinions) Santo Domingo Este was not a ideal location to live. I believe that to be incorrect. I live in Santo Domingo Este and I don't have to deal with the conditions described by others (noise). And I receive a lot more amenities than they said I would receive for the price I pay. I know people that live in other buildings in Santo Domingo Este and they don't have to live with the conditions described by others (noise). Now, I suppose that just because they said it and they have lived here longer than I have that is supposed to make what they say true. Unfortunately for them it does not. And yes my "foul and aggressive" language does not make my points any more convincing. But my "foul and aggressive" language does not invalidate my personal experiences to date.

When girls come to your apartment and use it a sanctuary away from the chaotic environment they live. When they relax and chill while having a drink with you on the balcony with their hair being blown gently by the ocean breeze. When they tell you how much they enjoy being here with you. When foreplay starts on your balcony with absolutely no effort on your part and continues to the bedroom. When all of that is in full effect. I know I have picked the right location to facilitate my PoF efforts. Of course this only works with non pros. Because the UTR's, Semi-Pros and Pros are just there for the money. Right?

You a big dog! You got it like that! Live large with the rich folks! As for me, I'm going to continue to live "hood rich" and enjoy life with my barrio chicas. But just like the real estate agent that asked me: "Why would you want to live over there?" She didn't know. But now you do. LOL!

To those who would tell me to tone things down. My question to them is: Tone down for what? To those bragging about using the internet to find apartments at market value: How about using the internet to learn how spell the neighborhood names right? About the posters who have lived here longer than I have and don't post anymore: Fuck them! If they have accumulated knowledge and are not sharing it then it's useless to me and others.

Remember, I don't have to post either. None of us do. But if you are going to post that is raining right now where I'm standing and I'm basking in sunlight I'm going to check you on it. It's rare that anyone calls into question the factual information I provide. But there always seems to be someone taking issue with how I write. A brief review of posts all over the forum will reveal that profanity and aggressive language is being used on a fairly routine basis. If I saw you posting the same thing about them and I might check myself. But I don't. That makes all you critical motherfuckers consistently inconsistent. And more importantly, irrelevant.

If you must hate my brother, don't hate the player, hate the game!

January 27,2017.

MENU.

ECONOMY.

Local hookers cringe as Venezuelans 'invade' market.

Santo Domingo. - The growing arrival of Venezuelan women who turn to prostitution in the country starts to concern Dominican sex workers, who complain that they "turn tricks" at below the local market price.

Women's Movement (Modemu) president and former "hooker" Jacqueline Montero said she has received complaints from former colleagues working in Santo Domingo's Malecon, that the South Americans charge as little as RD $2,500 per trick, or below the RD $3,000 which the locals usually charge the "johns" (customers).

"The Venezuelan colleagues have come to invade the market, being very elegant women, because we aren't going to take away their merits, they came with their own hair, not like us who bought it; come with their lipo (liposuction) done, came prepared and are very cute and on top of that, come with a lower cost," the activist said.

Quoted by [URL]elcaribe.com.do[/URL], Montero called on the foreigners not to "ruin the business" and charge the same price as the Dominicans. "I think the merchandise doesn't have to be so cheap. Everything has gone up, even the lemisol and the lye soap," Montero said with a laugh.

Men who've used the Venezuelan's sexual services say the foreign women, in addition to being elegant, are usually more educated and less demanding than the Dominicans.

"They look better, are more educated, don't ask for tips and don't demand other things," said a man who asked not to use his name.

They say there are pimps in the East region's tourist areas, who even take them to hotels for a price well below what the Dominican women charge.

Regarding the article:

I have never had a chick on the malecon ask for 3000 pesos. Hell, I have never had one ask for 2500. Someone is lying.

Same shit I have been saying all along. Once you know the service level of hookers from other countries, you are reluctant about fucking with the lackluster service of Dominican hookers that is sure to be filled with trying to get more out of you through tips and ordering shit for you to pay for and cheating you on the time and promised service. But instead of them feeling threatened and getting their shit together by staying in shape and cutting out the shenanigans, these Dominican hookers want to encourage the new girls on the block who are playing fair, to rip tricks off the same as they do. Oh my gah!

"The Venezuelan colleagues have come to invade the market, being very elegant women, because we aren't going to take away their merits, they came with their own hair, not like us who bought it; come with their lipo (liposuction) done, came prepared and are very cute and on top of that, come with a lower cost," the activist said.

I like it how the author allows, that the Venezuelans have their own hair, unlike the Dominican counterpart, which is bought and paid for.

[QUOTE=Berthold;1991216]"The Venezuelan colleagues have come to invade the market, being very elegant women, because we aren't going to take away their merits, they came with their own hair, not like us who bought it; come with their lipo (liposuction) done, came prepared and are very cute and on top of that, come with a lower cost," the activist said.

I like it how the author allows, that the Venezuelans have their own hair, unlike the Dominican counterpart, which is bought and paid for.[/QUOTE]Well to me they tried to use the fact that they had to buy hair as a reason Domimicans should charge more. They either conveniently forgot that the Venezuelans had to pay for the liposuction that they mentioned, or either assumed they got it for free. Hell, the Venezuelans even had to pay to get all the way to DR, but they are still able to charge less? Everyone has their overhead costs.

I see a Venezuelan beauty when I go SD. She's 32 and stacked. I could care less about her hair. I give her 2000 P although she has never asked for money. She treats me like a porn king -- videos and all! QUOTE=Berthold;1991216"The Venezuelans. Being very elegant women.

Was seeking some advice from the board. I have a trip coming up soon for 5 nights (which I plan on trying to write a detailed report this time, before all the important small details fade away) should I rent the same place or move around with the number of chicas I plan on bringing. I planned on renting an apartment instead of using a hotel.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1990685]The statements made here previously were (although representative of the writer's opinions) Santo Domingo Este was not a ideal location to live. I believe that to be incorrect. I live in Santo Domingo Este and I don't have to deal with the conditions described by others (noise). And I receive a lot more amenities than they said I would receive for the price I pay. I know people that live in other buildings in Santo Domingo Este and they don't have to live with the conditions described by others (noise). Now, I suppose that just because they said it and they have lived here longer than I have that is supposed to make what they say true. Unfortunately for them it does not. And yes my "foul and aggressive" language does not make my points any more convincing. But my "foul and aggressive" language does not invalidate my personal experiences to date.[/QUOTE]First, you were posting to say that unless people live in Santo Domingo right now, they can't comment on real estate, so you were in effect saying that your opinion is more valid because you have "lived here longer". I just pointed out that if you open that door, there will always be people that have been here longer or know more. I have been here on and off for almost 20 years but know several that have been here much longer. I can tell you that if you never went to LE petit chateau, Mona Lisa, Remington palace, spa Michelle, cisne or suenos real, you missed the golden era of the DR. But guys that have been here longer joke about sitting at almost any outdoor place they could have held up one finger if they wanted one girl and two for two girls.

In the past the problem was getting them to leave not getting them to stay TLN. There was no negotiating for what you wanted. They almost all were beyond GFE.

The fact that your building is low noise does not change the fact that the vast majority of the capital is noisy and SDQ este is more noisy than Bella vista or naco for the most part. As far as spelling, auto correct changed painting to painting.

I have lived in 10 different apps down here. First few were in "aquel lado" or SDQ este. Gradually each apt moved up in "class" of neighborhood. Why? What you find as quaint and authentic at first. Waking up with roosters crowing or a beat up truck with crappy PA blasting 20 platoons 20 pesos, gets old after 10 years. After many years, you may prefer having tons of options for non plato del DIA to eat. Hanging out in barrio car washes and colmados can still be fun, but so can checking out live jazz at a nice hotel. Being with barrio chicas that think nueva you is a country and miami is in nueva yol, never gets old, but once in a while having a more intelligent conversation with a civil engineer, or lawyer. In fact you may find that with the passing of time, spending more time in middle class areas and establishments with occasional jaunts back to villa juana or villa agricola, is preferable to hanging in LOS minas why villa consuelo and once in a while going to Blue Mall.

If I had lived in isabelita for 20 years, I would likely not know that the city has more to offer than barrio joints, colmados, car washes and barrio chicas. I can still enjoy those but variety is the spice of life.

The trend is nearly two years old. On the other hand, the money amounts mentioned surprised me. So, I read the original article in El Caribe. This translation is misleading. The article actually says: "Venezuelans charge as much as 2,500 pesos less than the top rate of 3,000 pesos Dominicans charge. The rest of the translation is largely accurate.

I agree with the way the writer characterized the Venezuelans women. Have fun!

[QUOTE=Revere;1991164]January 27,2017.

MENU.

ECONOMY.

Local hookers cringe as Venezuelans 'invade' market.

Santo Domingo. - The growing arrival of Venezuelan women who turn to prostitution in the country starts to concern Dominican sex workers, who complain that they "turn tricks" at below the local market price.

Women's Movement (Modemu) president and former "hooker" Jacqueline Montero said she has received complaints from former colleagues working in Santo Domingo's Malecon, that the South Americans charge as little as RD $2,500 per trick, or below the RD $3,000 which the locals usually charge the "johns" (customers)..[/QUOTE]

Ok Mr. Prtyr2,

Executive summary of the conversation for those that have not been following closely:

Someone asked about prices of apartments in Santo Domingo. Knowledge posted incorrect information. I posted information that corrected him. Knowledge complained about the language in my post but did not challenge my factual information. You jumped in the side of Knowledge calling me out for my language and supporting the incorrect information Knowledge originally posted. And therefore you were wrong also. Now like a hockey player that's been checked hard into the boards you are seeing stars and want to change the subject. Fine with me!

Response to your latest post:

It's impossible for you to say why I was posting when you have failed to read or understand what I posted. At no point did I say my OPINION had more weight than anyone else's. You are attributing the tone of Mr. Knowledge's post to mine. Another incorrect assertion. My post was a response to the inaccurate post that indicated that you could only rent an apartment for amount of money the was quoted in the original post if you were Santo Domingo Este. In addition, he stated the accommodations of the apartment received would be inferior and implied (no he did not explicitly say) the renter would be living next to colmados and having to put up with loud music. I suggest you read Mr. Knowledge's post again.

Now Mr. Knowledge has bowed out of the conversation like a gentleman because he couldn't just say "My Bad" (Slang from the United States). But you jumped in trying to save Mr. Knowledge's ass by saying "Unless you are in painting (your original spelling) or naco you will deal with loud noise eventually". That statement was wrong. But you won't "man up" (more slang from the United States) about it. Now you are doing the "MJ moonwalk" thing on me. So be it. I take no issue with your new qualified statement.

Your main objection was to my language. You confirmed in your post that the factual information I provided was accurate. You then went own to outline your experiences and preferences. No one can invalidate those. I appreciate your extensive and detailed review of 20 years of living off and on in the Dominican Republic. Sounds like a book title to me. LOL! It appears that at a least one long time resident has chosen to share the extensive knowledge he has developed over the years.

I took from your post that you know a bunch of guys that like to sit around and talk about the "Golden Era of the DR". WTF? Immediately the Bruce Springsteen song "Glory Days" came to mind: "And I hope when I get old I don't sit around thinking about it, but I probably will. Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture a little of the glory of, well time slips away and leaves you with nothing mister but boring stories of glory days. ".

I'm ROTFLMFAO! No thank you. Not for me! I'm sitting on my balcony, basking in the sunlight, having a drink and looking at the ocean. My cell phone goes off. It's my whatsapp. Some sweet twenty something wants to see me (and I know what that means). I tell her to come on over. And I'm supposed to believe that I missed the "Golden Era of the DR"? No my brother! I don't think so. LOL!

As long as smoking hot girls in their twenties are willing to give 50, 60, 70 year old men pussy then the time I'm living in right here and right now is my golden age. Tell your counsel of old men I'm not missing a thing. You can't find any posts where I'm whining like a girly man about not being able to find GFE (mine go way beyond GFE also); You can't find my posts where TLN is a problem (I have trouble getting mine to leave also). You seem like a fairly educated fellow (much more than me, you know, with your proper English and the middle class thing you got going on). Talk to them about a smart phone. Teach them how to use whatsapp and social media. And then they will see they can still, just using their finger, have the pussy come to them (roll the laugh track on that one boys).

Middle Class? That's a oxymoron if I ever heard one in the Dominican Republic. You either have money or you don't. Let me guess, your next post is going to be about the honest politicians that you hang out with. With your talk about "middle class" areas, there your go again with you biases Mr. Prtyr2 (or are they preferences? You never really make that clear). I don't know you. But just from the way you write and what you write about there is not a bit of your advice that I consider valid for me. I've already given you my opinions on those parts of the city. So I won't repeat them here. But did you ever stop to think that maybe it's because I have experienced all that I need or want to experience over there?

Because while it may have taken you 20 years to realize all the city had to offer, it's taken me less than three. I've been there and hung out in those "Middle Class" areas (your term). Tell me I don't know what it's like because I haven't lived there and I'm going to ask: "Do I need to take a bullet to know it would not be optimal for my health and well being?" And more than that, I accepted the challenge Mr. Gogo threw at me and I have traveled all over the Dominican Republic. I talk to Dominicans and they tell me I've been more places than they have on the island. Of course that depends upon who I'm talking too. Here is the simple point I have been trying to make and you don't seem to be able to get it.

If I wanted to live where you and Knowledge like to live I could have stayed the the place I grew up. That's the country with the billionaire president who's advice to young men on how to handle females is to "just grab them in the pussy" and "where it's all about the mother fucking money. " And if you think that I have formed my opinions because I don't know what it's like to live large, google "Air Force Two" and ask yourself have you flown on a plane with that call sign? Send me a PM if you want to know if I have.

So, my man. I think we have a new understanding of each other. I'll leave all those "middle class" areas for you and Knowledge. Those are your stomping grounds. And if that's how you choose / have chosen to live, that's great. I never said it wasn't nice. For me it's a great place to visit. Just wouldn't want to live there. My brother, don't paint Santo Domingo Este with a broad brush full of your biases as if there are no exceptions. Because then you are doing just what Knowledge did. Throwing up some weak shit and showing your lack of it.

[QUOTE=Prtyr2;1991322]First, you were posting to say that unless people live in santo domingo right now, they can't comment on real estate, so you were in effect saying that your opinion is more valid because you have "lived here longer". I just pointed out that if you open that door, there will always be people that have been here longer or know more. I have been here on and off for almost 20 years but know several that have been here much longer. I can tell you that if you never went to LE petit chateau, mona lisa, remington palace, spa michelle, cisne or suenos real, you missed the golden era of the DR. But guys that have been here longer joke about sitting at almost any outdoor place they could have held up one finger if they wanted one girl and two for two girls.

In the past the problem was getting them to leave not getting them to stay TLN. There was no negotiating for what you wanted. They almost all were beyond GFE..[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1991591]Ok Mr. Prtyr2,

Executive summary of the conversation for those that have not been following closely:

Someone asked about prices of apartments in Santo Domingo. Knowledge posted incorrect information. I posted information that corrected him. Knowledge complained about the language in my post but did not challenge my factual information. You jumped in the side of Knowledge calling me out for my language and supporting the incorrect information Knowledge originally posted. And therefore you were wrong also. Now like a hockey player that's been checked hard into the boards you are seeing stars and want to change the subject. Fine with me![/QUOTE]You easily confuse opinion with fact. On average SDQ este is more noisy than Piantini, yes or no? Not talking about your legendary needle in haystack building.

Nobody gives acrap if you curse. Read your post. You sound like a typical newbie that gets all full of himself so he can belittle those with less knowledge or experience. You said only "uninformed" don't know that este is separate municipality. You wrote how anyone that doesn't currently live here as you do can not comment on real estate. I do, so I did. Name the neighborhoods you have lived in. Or is it only that one?

You now say there is no middle class? Huh? I know people that pay 3,000 pesos rent. I know others that pay 500 bucks, I know some that pay 3,000 USD per month. From my balcony I can see a torre that the penthouse rents for $7,000 per month. I pay no where near that. So enlighten us. Is $1,100 perl month poor? Is that rich? Your 500 per month place is for the "rich"?

I know couples where both work, two college professors living in LOS prides are not rich. They are also not in Simon Bolivar. They have nice cars and a nice place but no BMWs and beach homes in Juan dolio. Ask them if they are rich. They will say "middle class". I am sure they will be stunned to know that a gringo newbie has declared there is no middle class and that anyone that disagrees is wrong.

I lived in gazcue for years and never saw snobs with nose in the air as you describe. One of my fave areas of the capital. Only reason I moved was apts are on small side and it is more noisy than where I live now.

As far as sharing. I don't really monger, though I do like to head out for a few beers now and then and check here once in a while to see if there is any new info. Rarely. If I see a thread where I can add more than GBP and calle Pasteur I will. If I see people that can't find club MC, Galleros, Shylo etc, I will help if I happen to stop by. If one day someone asks about "piano bars" I know a couple that may be new to them and one that even Dominican taxi drives have no idea about. Years ago I posted a map of the gazcue area when there were more than 10 MPs within walking distance and none were clearly marked. I still get PMs from members telling me how much my info helped when they first came down.

Also, if you think I don't know how to spell Piantini you are being silly. I explained it was spell check but you continue to bring it up. You seem to have a complex where you need to be right. You have the right to your opinion, but not your own facts. Calling other opinions wrong is just plain silly.

[QUOTE=Prtyr2;1991993]I lived in gazcue for years and never saw snobs with nose in the air as you describe. One of my fave areas of the capital. Only reason I moved was apts are on small side and it is more noisy than where I live now.[/QUOTE]OK my man. I'm glad all your experiences with the Dominican moneyed classes have been positive. Mine have not. My experiences visiting that area differ from yours. My opinion of what it would be like to live in that area is different than yours. What I have to say about it a opinion and everything you have to say about it is to be accepted as fact. Is that because you have lived here off and on for 20 years and I have not? I think not. Far from being full of myself as a "newbie" I'm simply expressing my opinions and stating the occasional fact when it is correct.

You project, through the tone your writing, that the distinct possibility exists that because I'm a "newbie" that I do not know anything compared to you. And imply that might not be able to interpret my own experiences and form my own opinions. I've never told anyone to "tone things down" or how to write. Tell me Mr. Prty2 what is your Paradigm? Share it with me. And I'll make a better effort to see things and then write about them here using your perspective on life.

Here is what I actually said:

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1991591]Ill leave all those "middle class" areas for you and Knowledge. Those are your stomping grounds. And if that's how you choose / have chosen to live, that's great. I never said it wasn't nice. For me it's a great place to visit. Just wouldn't want to live there.[/QUOTE]The way I see it: you have a real problem actually reading and comprehending what I write. It might be because you are way more focused on form than substance. And you seem to be really wrapped up in this "I've lived here longer than you and know more than you" persona that you are projecting through your writing. I'm still waiting for you to point out exactly where I wrote that my opinions are more important than anyone else's. And I'm still waiting for you to point out the facts that I have stated that are incorrect.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1992105]OK my man. I'm glad all your experiences with the Dominican moneyed classes have been positive. Mine have not. My experiences visiting that area differ from yours. My opinion of what it would be like to live in that area is different than yours. What I have to say about it a opinion and everything you have to say about it is to be accepted as fact. Is that because you have lived here off and on for 20 years and I have not? I think not. Far from being full of myself as a "newbie" I'm simply expressing my opinions and stating the occasional fact when it is correct..[/QUOTE]Nobody cares how long I have been here. I brought it up as you used your living here as a reason you can talk about RE and people not currently living here can't. You called anyone that didn't know este was a separate municipality "uninformed". You said you can't get fair market pricing on internet. Not true. You think Dominicans don't get the real deal pricing? Who do you think uses supercasas and corrotos? You think those sites exists to gouge uninformed gringos? Please.

Tell me old wise one, how much would a three bedroom 240 square meter apt in Bella vista go for at "market prices"? If there are dozens available at similar prices, and buildings full of people paying those prices, then that is market price. Try sending a barrio chica to "front" and get you real prices in Naco.

Your opinion is that santo Domingo este is not noisier than gazcue or piantini or naco. Your opinion is that people in gazcue that pay the same amount in rent that you do, walk around with nose in the air. Those are opinions and not facts.

Apologies if this has been discussed before. I've searched rigorously on this topic to to no avail.

Can anyone provide insight into the Satisfaction Plus adult hotel in Santo Domingo?

Is it a newbies only place? How are the chicas?

I've been having a blast across the north coast and about to venture south. I speak Spanish and seasoned in the region.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Revere;1991164]January 27,2017.

MENU.

ECONOMY.

Local hookers cringe as Venezuelans 'invade' market.

Santo Domingo. - The growing arrival of Venezuelan women who turn to prostitution in the country starts to concern Dominican sex workers, who complain that they "turn tricks" at below the local market price.

[/QUOTE]Wait, I thought that guys were saying not too long ago that the Venezuelan women were asking and getting MORE than Dominican chicas? Not that they were going for less!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1993676]Wait, I thought that guys were saying not too long ago that the Venezuelan women were asking and getting MORE than Dominican chicas? Not that they were going for less![/QUOTE]Word is that they have been chased off to Punta Cana. I am in Santo Domingo now and was in Boca Chica earlier today looking for them in broad daylight with a flashlight and turned up empty. If anyone has the 411 on them then let me know.

Went to mega centro today Santo Domingo Este! Absolutely in heaven! la Republica Dominican is the absolute.

Ass& hips \ Capitol of the world/ lots of fresh non-pros, stunning bodies, and they will talk to you!!

I see why everyone falls in love with this country! Guys if I can, you have to stop past this mall, you will absolutely be captivated!

Gave my whatsapp number to some fine tenders! Apolo taxi tarifa only about 200 pesos, buy a ice cream cone sit back and pull me over!

Try the food court in the Sambil Mall, a lot of Villa Mella, Villa Juana, and Ensanche La Fe girls hang around the food court. It's on the metro line so you get a lot of traffic.

[QUOTE=StrokenBlkMan;1995499]Went to mega centro today Santo Domingo Este! Absolutely in heaven! la Republica Dominican is the absolute.

Ass& hips \ Capitol of the world/ lots of fresh non-pros, stunning bodies, and they will talk to you!!

I see why everyone falls in love with this country! Guys if I can, you have to stop past this mall, you will absolutely be captivated!

Gave my whatsapp number to some fine tenders! Apolo taxi tarifa only about 200 pesos, buy a ice cream cone sit back and pull me over![/QUOTE]

Before arriving in Santo Domingo I spent a week in Sosua, Cabarete and Las Terrenas respectively with good yet mixed results. (see my trip reports).

- Sosua. Point and click.

- Cabarete. Awesome GFE gems.

- Las Terrenas. Sleepy, with a few hotties.

Santo Domingo.

Grabbed the now-old Google map and did a sweep of the listed casas. Almost all of them are now closed. WTF.

The active venues that I did make it to:

Oasis (guessing it was Baby Dolls once upon a time).

Seriously impressive lineup. Selected a shapely honey with long blonde tipped hair to join me to sit down. Turns out she speaks fluent English.

It didn't take long to get on to the topic of transaction arrangement. 4 k takeout for 2 hours. The cab driver working out the front demanded 500 pesos for the 300 metre trip to Napolitano.

She needed another 500 for the return. 5 K plus beers was outrageously steep, but worth every peso.

In my hotel she gave me a striptease before undressing me. BBJ and passionate acrobatics ensued. After the deed she hung around and we lounged, chatted for ages. She asked if she could leave eventually when I got bored.

I returned two nights later and selected a more mature lady with ample body. In house venture this time, same price. But better off minus the cab fees.

Clean rooms and towels. Overall this place is recommended.

Foxys.

Big reputation that didn't deliver. Lackluster semi pregnant looking women. One "fox" who tried to "seduce" me had bad body odor. Out of pure boredom I opted for a 1 k peso lap dance that was OK, lasting 2 or 3 songs. The papasan / host was a sneaky fellow akin to Fagan from Oliver Twist.

Casa Teresa.

Wonderful! The cheery staff create a great atmosphere. One of the Haitian security fellows was a laugh. Great lineup of ladies ranging from very pale, amply stacked Venezuelans to dark chocolate Haitian ladies. I took a Venezuelan and she didn't disappoint. Amazing service. I will go back.

There is a girly bar next to Hotel Napolitano. I mistakenly ventured in one evening with a date, only to find the place full of available working ladies. They all looked welcoming and pretty though.

I'll be here for another week or so. If anyone has any advice I would gladly appreciate it.

Thanks.

I just paid a subscription, and keen to organize a meetup for members in Santo Domingo.

Send me a message and I'll co-ordinate.

[QUOTE=AussieStiffler;1995960]
Foxys.
Out of pure boredom I opted for a 1 k peso lap dance that was OK, lasting 2 or 3 songs.[/QUOTE]Are you shitting me? Lap dances at GBP are free and you fuck for an hour for 1200 pesos. Won't find any of those fancy towels there though.

LOL! That was almost as funny as a Boricua post. Nice.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1996217]Are you shitting me? Lap dances at GBP are free and you fuck for an hour for 1200 pesos. Won't find any of those fancy towels there though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AussieStiffler;1995960]I'll be here for another week or so. If anyone has any advice I would gladly appreciate it.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hit up Prtyr2. Tell him I recommended him. Asking about the Piano Bars in Santo Domingo. Be nice about it. And he just might help a brother out. Also, check out the hidden secret of Boca Chica. I've said this before. I don't usually monger but when I do I prefer Boca Chica. ROTFLMAO!

Always a pleasure to help a brother out!

[QUOTE=AussieStiffler;1995960]Before arriving in Santo Domingo I spent a week in Sosua, Cabarete and Las Terrenas respectively with good yet mixed results. (see my trip reports).

- Sosua. Point and click.

- Cabarete. Awesome GFE gems.

- Las Terrenas. Sleepy, with a few hotties.

Santo Domingo.

Grabbed the now-old Google map and did a sweep of the listed casas. Almost all of them are now closed. WTF.

The active venues that I did make it to:

Oasis (guessing it was Baby Dolls once upon a time).

Seriously impressive lineup. Selected a shapely honey with long blonde tipped hair to join me to sit down. Turns out she speaks fluent English.

It didn't take long to get on to the topic of transaction arrangement. 4 k takeout for 2 hours. The cab driver working out the front demanded 500 pesos for the 300 metre trip to Napolitano.

She needed another 500 for the return. 5 K plus beers was outrageously steep, but worth every peso.

In my hotel she gave me a striptease before undressing me. BBJ and passionate acrobatics ensued. After the deed she hung around and we lounged, chatted for ages. She asked if she could leave eventually when I got bored.

I returned two nights later and selected a more mature lady with ample body. In house venture this time, same price. But better off minus the cab fees.

Clean rooms and towels. Overall this place is recommended.

Foxys.

Big reputation that didn't deliver. Lackluster semi pregnant looking women. One "fox" who tried to "seduce" me had bad body odor. Out of pure boredom I opted for a 1 k peso lap dance that was OK, lasting 2 or 3 songs. The papasan / host was a sneaky fellow akin to Fagan from Oliver Twist.

Casa Teresa.

Wonderful! The cheery staff create a great atmosphere. One of the Haitian security fellows was a laugh. Great lineup of ladies ranging from very pale, amply stacked Venezuelans to dark chocolate Haitian ladies. I took a Venezuelan and she didn't disappoint. Amazing service. I will go back.

There is a girly bar next to Hotel Napolitano. I mistakenly ventured in one evening with a date, only to find the place full of available working ladies. They all looked welcoming and pretty though.

I'll be here for another week or so. If anyone has any advice I would gladly appreciate it.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Good quick report. Appreciate info on locales less reported on here.

Wednesday.

Air BnB in Gazcue for six days, five nights 415.

Fly Delta for 700.

100 for 3 bottles of Johnny Walker Double Black at duty free.

45 for taxi to apartment.

5 dollars for Uber to the supermarket and back for bottled water, beer and cola.

Girl I wanted to spend the most time with (and who promised the most threesomes) doesn't show up, of course. She promises she'll bring the chica I like in the morning.

Thursday.

Sex with M and her big friend with the tight pussy.

Everything is thrown off by a day because of Chica lateness, so now I don't if I'll be able to see all the chicas I had lined up. Should have known better than to actually have a schedule with Dominican chicks!

So the girl I want to spend the most time with finally shows up (who I'll call M), but she brings her two ugly friends with her. Jesus. They're actually pretty cool, and I find out M likes to have the big dinosaur one eat her pussy. OK, whatever gets you going. After dinosaur cooks an excellent meal, and we drink much whiskey, Dino, M, and I go the bedroom. I told M I'd give Dino a back massage because she did such a good job cooking. I massage her while she gobbles M's pussy. Finally, after searching for hidden cameras for like 10 minutes, M starts riding the dick pretty, pretty good. I don't cum fast enough, so she asks me if I want to fuck Dinosaur. I'm drunk, and Dinosaur looks like she hasn't had dick in a long time. I hate to say it, but Dinosaur had some good-good. We actually fuck for a while, and I end up with a great nut. This is all while the third friend is chilling in the living room.

40 for two cooked meals from Super Mercado down the street.

20 for friend fee for Dinosaur.

At night, no girls I wanted were coming by, so found L on DC, wanted 75.00 plus 13.00 for taxi to come fuck. I know that's expensive, but I was drunk and didn't want to leave the apartment. As soon as she gets to the apartment, she pulled out her tits and told me to taste. Haha, tasted Leche de pechos for the first time. She managed to drink a 22 oz beer in ten minutes. Jesus, your breastfeeding still? Didn't know until she had already drank 2/3 of the beer. After downing her beer, she hurries me to the bedroom, she says she left the taxi downstairs! She gets naked (2 kids, but bodies not that bad) and starts BBJ. We start fucking, but she's asking me to leche! Leche! The entire time. Not a bad fuck, just in too much of a hurry.

Still got some better looking chicas lined up, but I'm not sure who's going to show up at what time. The best laid plans.

Trust me your experience is the norm. In SD you need a backup to your back up. However it is clear you are having a great time. Having a real 3 some is pretty nice. You get big props for that. The best plan may be to schedule multiple girls to insure no down time. This contrary to Americans who are on time. I pay a 100 pesos to get to the city on a van at the air port. You should pay no more then 30 bucks in a cab. That leche popi is a serious buzz kill but is not unusual. Keep the reports coming.

[QUOTE=Haint69;1996982]Wednesday.

Air BnB in Gazcue for six days, five nights 415.

Fly Delta for 700.

100 for 3 bottles of Johnny Walker Double Black at duty free.

45 for taxi to apartment.

5 dollars for Uber to the supermarket and back for bottled water, beer and cola.

Girl I wanted to spend the most time with (and who promised the most threesomes) doesn't show up, of course. She promises she'll bring the chica I like in the morning.

Thursday.

Sex with M and her big friend with the tight pussy.

Everything is thrown off by a day because of Chica lateness, so now I don't if I'll be able to see all the chicas I had lined up. Should have known better than to actually have a schedule with Dominican chicks!

So the girl I want to spend the most time with finally shows up (who I'll call M), but she brings her two ugly friends with her. Jesus. They're actually pretty cool, and I find out M likes to have the big dinosaur one eat her pussy. OK, whatever gets you going. After dinosaur cooks an excellent meal, and we drink much whiskey, Dino, M, and I go the bedroom. I told M I'd give Dino a back massage because she did such a good job cooking. I massage her while she gobbles M's pussy. Finally, after searching for hidden cameras for like 10 minutes, M starts riding the dick pretty, pretty good. I don't cum fast enough, so she asks me if I want to fuck Dinosaur. I'm drunk, and Dinosaur looks like she hasn't had dick in a long time. I hate to say it, but Dinosaur had some good-good. We actually fuck for a while, and I end up with a great nut. This is all while the third friend is chilling in the living room.

40 for two cooked meals from Super Mercado down the street.

20 for friend fee for Dinosaur.

At night, no girls I wanted were coming by, so found L on DC, wanted 75.00 plus 13.00 for taxi to come fuck. I know that's expensive, but I was drunk and didn't want to leave the apartment. As soon as she gets to the apartment, she pulled out her tits and told me to taste. Haha, tasted Leche de pechos for the first time. She managed to drink a 22 oz beer in ten minutes. Jesus, your breastfeeding still? Didn't know until she had already drank 2/3 of the beer. After downing her beer, she hurries me to the bedroom, she says she left the taxi downstairs! She gets naked (2 kids, but bodies not that bad) and starts BBJ. We start fucking, but she's asking me to leche! Leche! The entire time. Not a bad fuck, just in too much of a hurry.

Still got some better looking chicas lined up, but I'm not sure who's going to show up at what time. The best laid plans.[/QUOTE]

It is a very nice apartment.

[QUOTE=Haint69;1996982]Wednesday.

Air BnB in Gazcue for six days, five nights 415.

Fly Delta for 700.

100 for 3 bottles of Johnny Walker Double Black at duty free.

45 for taxi to apartment.

5 dollars for Uber to the supermarket and back for bottled water, beer and cola.

Girl I wanted to spend the most time with (and who promised the most threesomes) doesn't show up, of course. She promises she'll bring the chica I like in the morning.

Thursday.

Sex with M and her big friend with the tight pussy.

Everything is thrown off by a day because of Chica lateness, so now I don't if I'll be able to see all the chicas I had lined up. Should have known better than to actually have a schedule with Dominican chicks!.[/QUOTE]

Day 3.

Woke up, walked to the pharmacy for condoms and itch cream, got tore up by mosquitoes during the night.

M writes to me and tells me her and her friend W is ready to come over. I hope this timing works out, I got some other chicas riding the bus from the country to see me.

M's friend W is really cute. They show up, and I can't wait to bone both of them. M wants a pizza so, we order Pizza Hut. After pizza and some whiskey drinks, all three of us head to the bedroom. Damn, they're both fine, but have no idea how to have a threesome, so M just let's me give W oral and fuck her for awhile before I see her watching from the doorway. "¿Estás enojado conmigo?" "No, quiero que la experimentes por ti mismo" "OK!" I can do that.

10.00 for a taxi for M and W to get the apartment. 16.00 for delivery pizza, then 10 for M and a 40 dollar fuck my friend fee.

Put off the girl coming from La Romana, told her my flight was late. Really wanted to fuck ML from up north of SD. She was late as hell, traffic was terrible for the bus she was on.

Ha, la leche materna won't stop messaging me.

So finally ML shows up, and damn, she's thick. I thought she was more light skinned from her photos, but I was dumb and didn't realize she had used filters! No worries, she still has my kind of body. We make small talk, share a beer, then it's off to the bedroom. Pretty straight forward sex, but it's nice because she's really into it. After about 15-20 minutes, she's too sore to continue, so we drink some more, then go some more. I guess I'm too drunk to bust, so we both pass out. Woke up and saw that body under the sheets, had to get some more. Gave her some oral, then missionary again. Didn't take long this time! She was happy saying, "leche, leche! Now I know there will be some sort of question about financial help, so I just preemptive strike. She says she's 3 months behind on her internet, so she needs 100 dollars! No fucking way. I give her 50 and cab fare back to the bus station.

On to the next one, and more reports to follow.

Thanks for the advice OldKool, things have actually worked out pretty well. I know I got gringo taxed on the taxi, but I was so ready to start my adventure. I know I have to start negotiating more haha! Knowledge, apartment has great view, but no A / see, so you have to keep all windows open all the time. Rained yesterday, me and the two chicas were desperately closing windows to keep rain out. Between the sliding doors and windows, there are a total 15 to close haha! Very unique apartment, but so far one of the best places I've ever stayed in Dominican, even without the A / C.

One more note, posting a pic of a really useful device if you have an iPhone and don't want to store photos in a cloud. I just insert the drive into the charging port, and I can load all my photos onto a mini 10 GB SD card! That way no chicas see photos of the the other chicas. The other end is a USB, so I can connect it to my laptop, or even a smart TV to look at the photos on the big screen.

[QUOTE=Haint69;1997378] M wants a pizza so, we order Pizza Hut. [/QUOTE]You can get better pizza than Pizza Hut in Santo Domingo.

[QUOTE=Haint69;1997378] After pizza and some whiskey drinks, all three of us head to the bedroom. Damn, they're both fine, but have no idea how to have a threesome, so M just let's me give W oral and fuck her for awhile before I see her watching from the doorway. "Ests enojado conmigo?" "No, quiero que la experimentes por ti mismo" "OK!" I can do that.
[/QUOTE]Few Dominicans complete college courses in threesomes, so it could be you that has no idea. The most important thing about successful threesomes is communication. It is usually best to talk to the lead chica in advance to discuss what will be done, what turns you on the most, what turns her on, and so on. It is no good assuming the two chicas can read your mind. This pregame discussion may help to get them turned on to the idea, and you will also get some idea of what kind of inhibitions they have, and if necessary discuss how to overcome them. Hint. Money is always welcome. If the chicas are already close friends, they may be pretty reluctant to do stuff to each other, or even admit to each other that they would like to do stuff to each other, so usually you need one chica who is prepared to take the lead and the other who will go along with the program. You can tell one chica what you want her to do to the other, but this works best if the lead chica is already on board with the plan, otherwise you are going find them giggling and being very half hearted and perfunctory. The ideal is to get a girl who has strong secret lesbian tendencies and would anyway like an excuse to get into the pants of the other (straight) girl.

However, a word of warning. Threesomes can also be an opportunity for one girl to steal from your wallet while the other is thrusting her pussy in your face, so make sure you are in control of the situation and that they are really into the threesome.

[QUOTE=Haint69;1996982]
So the girl I want to spend the most time with finally shows up (who I'll call M), but she brings her two ugly friends with her. Jesus. They're actually pretty cool, and I find out M likes to have the big dinosaur one eat her pussy. OK, whatever gets you going. After dinosaur cooks an excellent meal, and we drink much whiskey, Dino, M, and I go the bedroom. I told M I'd give Dino a back massage because she did such a good job cooking. I massage her while she gobbles M's pussy. Finally, after searching for hidden cameras for like 10 minutes, M starts riding the dick pretty, pretty good. I don't cum fast enough, so she asks me if I want to fuck Dinosaur. I'm drunk, and Dinosaur looks like she hasn't had dick in a long time. I hate to say it, but Dinosaur had some good-good. We actually fuck for a while, and I end up with a great nut. This is all while the third friend is chilling in the living room.

At night, no girls I wanted were coming by, so found L on DC, wanted 75.00 plus 13.00 for taxi to come fuck. I know that's expensive, but I was drunk and didn't want to leave the apartment. As soon as she gets to the apartment, she pulled out her tits and told me to taste. Haha, tasted Leche de pechos for the first time. She managed to drink a 22 oz beer in ten minutes. Jesus, your breastfeeding still? Didn't know until she had already drank 2/3 of the beer. After downing her beer, she hurries me to the bedroom, she says she left the taxi downstairs! She gets naked (2 kids, but bodies not that bad) and starts BBJ. We start fucking, but she's asking me to leche! Leche! The entire time. Not a bad fuck, just in too much of a hurry.

Still got some better looking chicas lined up, but I'm not sure who's going to show up at what time. The best laid plans.[/QUOTE]Excellent report my man! That last Chica sounds like a Sosua rat. They are well know for that 'Leche papi! Leche!" bullshit, LOL.

Man, I really would love to give SD a run, but it seems like it is always some drama shit with Dominican chicks. Never had I ever had a Colombian Chica show up with two other broads unannounced or a broad tell me that her taxi is still out front! Lmao 😂.

The standard response to a girl who tells you she has a taxi waiting should be "leave now, don't keep your taxi waiting". Fuck that noise, you work for your money.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1997555]Excellent report my man! That last Chica sounds like a Sosua rat. They are well know for that 'Leche papi! Leche!" bullshit, LOL.

Man, I really would love to give SD a run, but it seems like it is always some drama shit with Dominican chicks. Never had I ever had a Colombian Chica show up with two other broads unannounced or a broad tell me that her taxi is still out front! Lmao 😂.[/QUOTE].

I have learned when you see the first sign of BS cut bait. Giving these girls a 2nd chances is a waste of time. I have had some very good experiences but the bad apples can ruin your trip. I let them know by my actions that they are replacable. Once they know you will walk on them their behavior gets better. SD is a great place to monger but need to know who what where and when, If not things can go south very fast. There is a learning curve everyone must go through.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1997560]The standard response to a girl who tells you she has a taxi waiting should be "leave now, don't keep your taxi waiting". Fuck that noise, you work for your money.

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I recently spent 5 days in Santo Domingo. I did research here and in searches online, not necessarily going just for P4P. I had a few WhatsApp numbers from Cupid, and Badoo, but ended up not making connections while there.

I am having a few persistent emails after I got back that I didn't follow up on. I intended to go to Boca Chica, maybe Juan Doiio, or even the North coast, but ended up staying in SD the whole time.

I stayed at the Maison Gautreaux, based on the rates and a few online reviews here and elsewhere. The hotel was about what I expected. Ok room, ended up being in a good location. About a block from the Melecon and as it turned out (not known to me at the time) one street away from Ave. Pasteur, close to several Casas. Also close to The Crowne Plaza and the Renaissance Hotel, with the Jaguar Casino. I had seem references to the Jaguara Hotel, but I didn't see any signs outside with this name, only the Renaissance Hotel. I saw the Jaguar name inside the hotel.

I landed about noon, got to the hotel after 1 pm, then slept a little. I walked around the Melecon, and walked into the casinos during the day. Back to the hotel, then in the early evening, I walked to Ave Independencia and manage to find the El Conde strip. If you go out of the lobby, turn left on the street, go to the first street (Ave Independencia) and take a right. It is a about a 15 minute walk to the El Conde. There were a few streetwalkers out calling to me, and I saw a few on the El Conde each night. I had one that came and sat with me and an outside cafe (more on this one later) but I was going to wait and see what else is available.

I went back to the hotel, cleaned up, and was planning to take a cab to one of the casas. While having a drink on the patio, a cutie spinner type came up to my table, started rubbing my balls, and showing me her nipples. She was pretty cute, about 5'. I think the name was Katey. We went to the room, I think 1500 pesos, or close. She had a small but round asses, about 32 B. We do CBL, multiple positions, but she kept changing positions (no English for her, not much spanish for me) After a while, I had her pull of the cover and finish me with HJ. Hard sometimes to feel anything with cover. An ok time, not remarkable and she left immediately after finish, which was ok with me. (more on her later).

The next day, I made a trip to the Spa Odesia, also called Slip on Me. I took a cab, which seem to be hard to find when you need them. About a 10 minute drive from the hotel. I got dropped off at an unassuming building, knocked on the door, and was let in. You can make an appointment, but I didn't. There was an older woman apparently running the place, she had me sit down, the brought in two girls both cute. I picked Emelie. She was petite, around 5' or shorter, and in the lineup had a pushup bra that made her boobs look full. Small, but nice ass. The pictures on the website look pretty much like her, but must have pushed those boobs up somehow for the pic. I picked the soapy massage, which was the least expensive thing on the menu. I wanted to see how it was before upgrading. This was 30 minutes, mostly standing, but very sensual. My hands could go anywhere, and she was good at teasing. She stroked me during the massage, near the end stoked to finish. I finally finished and she cleaned me up. I was hoping to see her later for Nuru, but she wasn't around. As I walked out the door, there were several other cuties.

I never saw any obvious talent at the Crown Plaza Casino. I went several nights to the Jaguara. There were some beautiful girls there. I was going to take one to the hotel one night, but she then brought her friend over, so I just left. It was a good place to hang, the girls where high quality, not sure how much to take out. The first night, I walked back to the hotel, and saw the girl from the El Conde walking near the Crown and Renaissance area. She was ok looking, it was late and I decided to take her to the hotel. We got to the room, and said she wanted to start massage. We did this for about 3 minutes, the she started wanted more money for "extras" I said, just finished the massage. She massaged for about 1 more minute, that said I need to give more money. I told her to get out, she threatened to call the police. I said " go ahead". She faked calls, I went to get someone from the front. I took her picture, which she didn't like, and said I would post it for all to see. The manage negotiated with her, I gave her 300 pesos and said to leave. She left without incident. The front desk copied her ID, not sure this hotel monitor's girls (more later). I went to sleep, and decided no more street girls, I had a similar experience in Juan Dolio a few years ago. More in Pt 2.

I did some more research on the cases, I didn't realize at the time that several where right behind my hotel. I had an address for the Girl House from online search. This has a sign, Bar 21 Girlhouse, which I hadn't seen. Apparently, there are 4 or five in this block, most of these look like regular houses. It seems some of these are open at different times. When I walked in, someone there brought out two girls. This day, I selected Mia. She was about 27, short hair about 34C, 5'3" is. Nice ass, some tatts, light brown skin. 4000 pesos, supposedly for 2 hours. This seems to be the rate here. She went to change into "regular" closes. She had the college student look with glasses, short dark hair. She spoke a little English. She seemed like she was working to be semi talkative, other words, she didn't seem to be that into it.

We went to the room, she showered then got in the bed. She was a little friendlier, she started HJ to get me started. (50 something, so takes a longer) Not even CBJ but ok anyway. We did several positions, she seemed a little more into the sex. Another hard time feeling it with the cover, so finished with HJ. She went to shower, we had a little more conversation, but she left way before 2 hours, which was OK.

Late that evening, I see the girl from the first night walk by the hotel. I didn't really want to repeat, she comes over with the hard sell. I just wanted to have a drink and relax, but she kept pestering me. I finally asked her to leave, and signaled to the front decks to get her away from me. After she left, I realized my wallet wasn't in my pants. I walked back out, saw it on the patio floor, and all my $$ was missing. Luckily, credit cards, etc where still there. I had just gotten about 20 K pesos, luckily I put much of it in my room locked up, but had about $100 missing. I notified the hotel, as I looked like she was around here often, but they didn't really do anything. I thought about it later and didn't want to press the issue, since I didn't want to deal with the police. I went that evening to the Jaguara, more smoking hot girls that I saw leaving with older guys. Probably lot's of $$, but would probably be worth it. I tried to get a seat on the way to the restroom, many girls giving the eye. (again, I am 50 something, so?

The next day I took a cab to the Odesia. When I got there, it was closed! Kind of disappointing. I went back to the Girlhouse. This day, two girls again, this time Magdelena was the choice. Very pretty, short brown hair, light brown skin. About 5'4, very toned arms. As we walked to the hotel, she was very pleasant. In the room, almost GRE. BBJ, multiple positions, and she is one of the few that I get lots of feeling with the cover. We went at it about 20 minutes, she came, then so did I. A great experience finally. We snuggle in the bed, and attempted a conversation (a little English for her, very little Spanish for me). After about 20 minutes, she stared HJ, then BBBJ, DT, etc. She kept this up for at least 15 minutes, but I knew I couldn't finish until much later. I walked her back to the case, got her digits.

The next day was my last day. I was kind of torn between her and the Odesia, but went back to the spa before the flight. I made an appointment this time, and made the selection there. Sheyla was my selection this time. She wasn't as friendly as Emilie, more business like at first. I did the 1 hour Nuru this time. Sheyla looks just like the pics on the website. Kind of like Tony's sister in Scarface. Thin but shapely, about 5'6. As the massage progressed, she got more into it. Lot's of teasing, sliding her whole body over me, and down below, then finished with HJ and alternating body slides. Lasted close to the hour. The last two days were much better than the first two.

Anyway, I think that SD would offer many opportunities after multiple trips. If you want point and shoot, head to the North. The Conde was a good place to hang, good food around here and the hotel. The place across from the hotel was pretty good Not sure this hotel would be good for non pros. I am having continued contact on DC and Badoo, that is making me want to go back when I have more time. As much as I hate to say this, if it is your first time, I would pay one of the touts a few pesos to show you the cases. There are no shortage of touts that "can get you anything you want". I would have given $200 US if one of then could get me to not have anyone ask me for money, etc. As I read elsewhere, you look like a walking cash machine to most of these touts.

I also wished that I would have spent a couple of days at a beach area, I enjoyed that the last trip a few years ago. Until next time!

Thanks for the report George03. Going to be in SD next weekend. I highly recommend you one of these [URL]https://www.bullhidebelts.com/collections/money-belts[/URL] . I have two of those and they are first class quality. They are not cheap. I had to pay almost double with shipping and duties to Europe, but they are worth every cent.

[QUOTE=Nordico;1997839]Thanks for the report George03. Going to be in SD next weekend. I highly recommend you one of these [URL]https://www.bullhidebelts.com/collections/money-belts[/URL] . I have two of those and they are first class quality. They are not cheap. I had to pay almost double with shipping and duties to Europe, but they are worth every cent.[/QUOTE]You can find that stuff for a small fraction of those prices on Ebay. I had a very nice money belt given to me. It was "regifted" for some reason and wore it out because I wore it regularly instead of just for mongering trips.

I found a cheaper one on Ebay and wore it to Thailand recently. These types of things may not last as long as those expensive belts, but most of us don't need to stash money away when we are not on vacation.

Here is a good source for economical money belts:

[URL]https://www.beltoutlet.com/collections/travel-security[/URL]

Another option: stash money under the soles of your shoes. I wear cushioned insoles when I travel, just to spare my feet from the sudden amount of walking that I do. Those can be easily taken in and out. When I got to Medellin last Spring, there was no safe in my hotel room. So, I found the most field expedient stash to be under my insoles. Just don't lose your shoes!

Another option that is very 3rd world if you have access to someone with sewing skills. Sew the money in a stash inside your pants. I met a Brazilian guy who told me a story about his first visit to the US. His mother insisted on sewing his money inside his slacks, via a special pocket in the pants. But she also sewed sewed it completely closed, so you he needed scissors or a knife to remove the stitches and get the money out. When he got to immigration, they asked if he could show funds to cover the duration of his stay. He told the officer they were inside his pants and he couldn't remove the money without taking off his pants. He is promptly taken aside to a room with a few immigration officers, where he needs to remove his pants. For obvious reasons, they wouldn't give him a knife but they gave him some scissors, with which he was able to remove the cash. The officers were amazed by this, but satisfied and they left him go. Next visit, he did not let his mother near his cash. However, it does make me wonder if a special hidden pants pocket, with a bottom flap or velcro patch to close it up would be a good idea. Just don't lose your pants!

[QUOTE=Frannie;1997496]You can get better pizza than Pizza Hut in Santo Domingo.
[/QUOTE]Your pizza comment made me chortle. I came of age with regards to pizza in Italy and to me it still represents the best, from the pizza with say eggplant or zucchini etc, all the way to nothing but a bit of mozzarella and rosemary. In the US, I could barely get me to eat the shyte that used to pass for pizza and which mercifully changed in the last 20 years, I mean no one knew of thin crusts, which is the predominant form in Italy and Germany. Another place with great pizza.

Digressions apart, I once took a girl from Santiago to a great pizza place. It being owned by an Italian, had what I called a "pizza" but then I soon realized that the girl's idea of a pizza is the Dominican one. And an American one. Pepperoni (stuff unknown in Italy), in addition to corn. I realized that it was not such a great idea to pay a fancy price when a regular "NY" pizza would do. The idea of going to a place like Dominos or Pizza Hut is more than the pizza itself, it is an event which I think is more important for these women, understandably.

[QUOTE=George03;1997635]Also close to The Crowne Plaza and the Renaissance Hotel, with the Jaguar Casino. I had seem references to the Jaguara Hotel, but I didn't see any signs outside with this name, only the Renaissance Hotel. I saw the Jaguar name inside the hotel.
[/QUOTE]The Renaissance is known as Jaragua. It was the original name of the place long ago before Ramada bought it. Be careful because there is a Jaguar hotel around the corner.

[QUOTE=George03;1997645]I went back to the Girlhouse. This day, two girls again, this time Magdelena was the choice.[/QUOTE]What time is it that you are going to Girlhouse? The strip clubs don't get started until night. It seems you are going in the day when they are closed and they are just bringing out a couple of the girls from the back that sleep on premises. When you go in at normal hours there is loud music, flashing lights, a bartender, and a ton of girls in bikinis swarm you and surround you hoping to get picked.

[QUOTE=Nordico;1997839]Thanks for the report George03. Going to be in SD next weekend. I highly recommend you one of these [URL]https://www.bullhidebelts.com/collections/money-belts[/URL] . I have two of those and they are first class quality. They are not cheap. I had to pay almost double with shipping and duties to Europe, but they are worth every cent.[/QUOTE]I usually wear a pair of gym shorts with a zipper pocket underneath my pants to put most of the cash. I thought the cargo shorts were ok, but just got careless!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1997881]The Renaissance is known as Jaragua. It was the original name of the place long ago before Ramada bought it. Be careful because there is a Jaguar hotel around the corner.[/QUOTE]Yes, I just mentioned in the report that I didn't see that name (Jaragua, which I may have misspelled) outside the hotel. I only saw that name inside.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1997887]What time is it that you are going to Girlhouse? The strip clubs don't get started until night. It seems you are going in the day when they are closed and they are just bringing out a couple of the girls from the back that sleep on premises. When you go in at normal hours there is loud music, flashing lights, a bartender, and a ton of girls in bikinis swarm you and surround you hoping to get picked.[/QUOTE]I went during the day, around 2 pm. I just went to the back. The house in front didn't look too big, so not sure what was inside. There were other places on the street the touts would try to get me into at night.

Great information, thank you for taking the time to do it. My opinion about touts is they will increase the cost of everything you do. Also, they have nothing to offer that is not also available to you here. Use the GPS and search engine on your phone along with the information here, and you will know more than the touts do.

[QUOTE=George03;1997645]I did some more research on the cases, I didn't realize at the time that several where right behind my hotel. I had an address for the Girl House from online search. This has a sign, Bar 21 Girlhouse, which I hadn't seen. Apparently, there are 4 or five in this block, most of these look like regular houses. It seems some of these are open at different times. When I walked in, someone there brought out two girls. This day, I selected Mia. She was about 27, short hair about 34C, 5'3" is. Nice ass, some tatts, light brown skin. 4000 pesos, supposedly for 2 hours. This seems to be the rate here. She went to change into "regular" closes. She had the college student look with glasses, short dark hair. She spoke a little English. She seemed like she was working to be semi talkative, other words, she didn't seem to be that into it.

We went to the room, she showered then got in the bed. She was a little friendlier, she started HJ to get me started. (50 something, so takes a longer) Not even CBJ but ok anyway. We did several positions, she seemed a little more into the sex. Another hard time feeling it with the cover, so finished with HJ. She went to shower, we had a little more conversation, but she left way before 2 hours, which was OK.

Late that evening, I see the girl from the first night walk by the hotel. I didn't really want to repeat, she comes over with the hard sell. I just wanted to have a drink and relax, but she kept pestering me. I finally asked her to leave, and signaled to the front decks to get her away from me. After she left, I realized my wallet wasn't in my pants..[/QUOTE]

There is an easy way to prevent getting your wallet picked. Never let women close enough to touch your private parts when you are in outdoors. Women who try to do it are often up to no good. Dominican are generally very shy about public displays of affection, unless they are professional thieves.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1997861]You can find that stuff for a small fraction of those prices on Ebay. I had a very nice money belt given to me. It was "regifted" for some reason and wore it out because I wore it regularly instead of just for mongering trips.

I found a cheaper one on Ebay and wore it to Thailand recently. These types of things may not last as long as those expensive belts, but most of us don't need to stash money away when we are not on vacation.

Here is a good source for economical money belts:

[URL]https://www.beltoutlet.com/collections/travel-security[/URL]

Another option: stash money under the soles of your shoes. I wear cushioned insoles when I travel, just to spare my feet from the sudden amount of walking that I do. Those can be easily taken in and out. When I got to Medellin last Spring, there was no safe in my hotel room. So, I found the most field expedient stash to be under my insoles. Just don't lose your shoes!

Another option that is very 3rd world if you have access to someone with sewing skills. Sew the money in a stash inside your pants. I met a Brazilian guy who told me a story about his first visit to the US. His mother insisted on sewing his money inside his slacks, via a special pocket in the pants. But she also sewed sewed it completely closed, so you he needed scissors or a knife to remove the stitches and get the money out. When he got to immigration, they asked if he could show funds to cover the duration of his stay. He told the officer they were inside his pants and he couldn't remove the money without taking off his pants. He is promptly taken aside to a room with a few immigration officers, where he needs to remove his pants. For obvious reasons, they wouldn't give him a knife but they gave him some scissors, with which he was able to remove the cash. The officers were amazed by this, but satisfied and they left him go. Next visit, he did not let his mother near his cash. However, it does make me wonder if a special hidden pants pocket, with a bottom flap or velcro patch to close it up would be a good idea. Just don't lose your pants![/QUOTE]

Same girl who behind close door will lick every part of you body will be hard press to give you a hug in public. It is just there culture.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1998034]There is an easy way to prevent getting your wallet picked. Never let women close enough to touch your private parts when you are in outdoors. Women who try to do it are often up to no good. Dominican are generally very shy about public displays of affection, unless they are professional thieves.[/QUOTE]

Anyone know the most economical way to get from Las Americas airport to Metro bus station in Downtown Santo Domingo. Do I have any options other than a taxi.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1998273]Same girl who behind close door will lick every part of you body will be hard press to give you a hug in public. It is just there culture.[/QUOTE]I don't think this is part of the culture. Dominican girlfriends will hug their men and other women in public. What you are seeing is a reluctance to publicly admit they are in a sexual relationship with an older foreigner because it marks them as probably prostitutes.

Uber.

Uber now accepts cash in Santo Domingo.

[QUOTE=CooleMr;1998286]Anyone know the most economical way to get from Las Americas airport to Metro bus station in Downtown Santo Domingo. Do I have any options other than a taxi.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

You are correct about public displays of affection with friends and lovers. I was referring to women who grab at your dick in public or hug you when they met you five minutes ago.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1998301]I don't think this is part of the culture. Dominican girlfriends will hug their men and other women in public. What you are seeing is a reluctance to publicly admit they are in a sexual relationship with an older foreigner because it marks them as probably prostitutes.[/QUOTE]

There is a publico in the drop off area of the airport upstairs. Locals who work at the airport use them to get back and forward. Go upstairs and exit to the left. There is currency exchange that give excellent rates upstairs. While downstairs you can buy or get minutes for any DR phone you have. The van is usually about 50 yards back. The cost is a 100 pesos to go to downtown SD. At the last stop are cabs that will take you to metro or Caribe for 300 pesos. The van has no signs so you got be observant. I feel like I am stealing when I use it.

[QUOTE=CooleMr;1998286]Anyone know the most economical way to get from Las Americas airport to Metro bus station in Downtown Santo Domingo. Do I have any options other than a taxi.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Request for info. What venues are in operation in SD?

I've been past most establishments in maps / listed here and various site and found only Roxy (next to Nepolitano), Foxy's, Oasis and Teresa to be in operation.

Any insights would help.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1998583]There is a publico in the drop off area of the airport upstairs. Locals who work at the airport use them to get back and forward. Go upstairs and exit to the left. There is currency exchange that give excellent rates upstairs. While downstairs you can buy or get minutes for any DR phone you have. The van is usually about 50 yards back. The cost is a 100 pesos to go to downtown SD. At the last stop are cabs that will take you to metro or Caribe for 300 pesos. The van has no signs so you got be observant. I feel like I am stealing when I use it.[/QUOTE]I took the van once when I had time and was curious about it. The location of last stop is very inconvenient. I took a cab but it took some time to find one. One American passenger offered extra money to van driver to take him to his hotel after last stop. I would strongly suggest to do the same and offer driver extra money to take you to Metro or Caribe.

[QUOTE=Ozzie1451;1998701]I took the van once when I had time and was curious about it. The location of last stop is very inconvenient. I took a cab but it took some time to find one. One American passenger offered extra money to van driver to take him to his hotel after last stop. I would strongly suggest to do the same and offer driver extra money to take you to Metro or Caribe.[/QUOTE]Good advice, Ozzie. Please email me as my phone is malfunctioning.

Just take an uber. It will cost 1200 to 1500 pesos from the airport to Metro on Churchill or Caribe Tour on 27 Feb. Anyone who is sweating 1,000 pesos should skip a trip and save enough so it won't matter. It's basically safe to use the van but not as safe as a private car with a driver whose ID and photo you have in advance. I don't know why anyone would get in the van with luggage and possibly a lot of cash.

[QUOTE=Ozzie1451;1998701]I took the van once when I had time and was curious about it. The location of last stop is very inconvenient. I took a cab but it took some time to find one. One American passenger offered extra money to van driver to take him to his hotel after last stop. I would strongly suggest to do the same and offer driver extra money to take you to Metro or Caribe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1998977]Just take an uber. It will cost 1200 to 1500 pesos from the airport to Metro on Churchill or Caribe Tour on 27 Feb. Anyone who is sweating 1,000 pesos should skip a trip and save enough so it won't matter. It's basically safe to use the van but not as safe as a private car with a driver whose ID and photo you have in advance. I don't know why anyone would get in the van with luggage and possibly a lot of cash.[/QUOTE]Is there an issue with an Uber driver picking you up at the airport. Taxi driver resentment? Where do you tell the Uber driver to pick you up? Should I get in the front seat, so the taxistas won't know it is an Uber driver?

One other transportation question: Are there any busses from the airport directly up to Santiago, or do I have to go all the way into downtown SD to get a bus? I see that there is a bus station in Santo Domingo Este, but it is probably too risky for a gringo to use that station--right?

I stay in the colonal zone and the last stop s a short distance away and there are cabs waiting where you get out. I enjoy the ride and the feel of local flavor. The 1000 pesos I save puts me in a good mood.

[QUOTE=Ozzie1451;1998701]I took the van once when I had time and was curious about it. The location of last stop is very inconvenient. I took a cab but it took some time to find one. One American passenger offered extra money to van driver to take him to his hotel after last stop. I would strongly suggest to do the same and offer driver extra money to take you to Metro or Caribe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1999463]I stay in the colonal zone and the last stop s a short distance away and there are cabs waiting where you get out. I enjoy the ride and the feel of local flavor. The 1000 pesos I save puts me in a good mood.[/QUOTE]What about the fact (which others have pointed out) that one will likely be the only gringo on the van, and that you will be arriving with all your luggage and cash and credit cards?

I love taking public transportation in cities (and saving the money, too), but I did not do it during my one previous visit to SD last year. How would you rate the overall safety (and extra time) for a tall blue-eyed "obvious" gringo?

If my AirBnB rental is in Gazcue or Naco would it still make sense to take the van vs. an Uber? Or, would I get ripped off by the taxistas waiting for me at the end of the line, if I need to take one to another neighborhood?

I was treated very well by everyone in the vans. The taxi at the end saw few gringos so had no gringo game to play. I am black American so no blue eyes. I make about 4 trips a year so I budget myself when I can. At most it may take 30 minutes more time but adds a feel I like. If I were a blue eyed guy maybe I would feel different. We all have to do what works for us personally. Over all SD is not a dangerous city if you use common sense.

[QUOTE=RobbyBurns;1999600]What about the fact (which others have pointed out) that one will likely be the only gringo on the van, and that you will be arriving with all your luggage and cash and credit cards?

I love taking public transportation in cities (and saving the money, too), but I did not do it during my one previous visit to SD last year. How would you rate the overall safety (and extra time) for a tall blue-eyed "obvious" gringo?

If my AirBnB rental is in Gazcue or Naco would it still make sense to take the van vs. an Uber? Or, would I get ripped off by the taxistas waiting for me at the end of the line, if I need to take one to another neighborhood?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1996547]Hit up Prtyr2. Tell him I recommended him. Asking about the Piano Bars in Santo Domingo. Be nice about it. And he just might help a brother out. Also, check out the hidden secret of Boca Chica. I've said this before. I don't usually monger but when I do I prefer Boca Chica. ROTFLMAO!

Always a pleasure to help a brother out![/QUOTE]You still got a boo boo? Have no clue what the boca comment is about. Never mongered there. Love it in daytime, not so much at night.

Staying in hotel Catalonia on Malecon. Read a report about Casa Teresa and decided to give it a try. The hotel taxis asked USD 15 for the 6 km ride, so I decided to take a normal taxi, DOP 200, but the taxi driver clearly got his cut from the house, which I was charged in the drink prices. Two beers and a Cuba libre were DOP 1000. Usually I would jump off few houses before, but I thought maybe it's going to be just couple of hundred, but I think they gave him 500. The taxi ride was quite cheap anyway.

There were some 10 girls, who live on the premises. I would rate the girls 7-8. I didn't see any stunners, but all the girls were doable. I paid DOP 4500 (yes I know, I'm going to hear about this) for an hour with a girl. According to my taxi driver it's same price for a 2 hours takeout. I forgot to check this info. The rooms are clean and quite OK, with a shower and clean towels and sheets. The service was good. BBBJ and stuff.

The most bothering thing about the place was a gentleman in a suit, who they call Rubio. Looked like he's in charge of the place. First he asked me to give a propinita to the lady, who hadn't done anything else for me, but received my money. When I went to the room with the girl, he was upstairs and asked a propinita for himself, for nothing again. I asked him, what is the reason, I should tip him. He didn't want to understand my question. I told him to stop begging all the time.

The place seemed to be safe and the girls are not aggressive, but the bill was quite hefty, so I don't think I'm going to repeat. If there had been some real stunners I would reconsider.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2001153]Read a report about Casa Teresa and decided to give it a try. The hotel taxis asked USD 15 for the 6 km ride, so I decided to take a normal taxi, DOP 200, but the taxi driver clearly got his cut from the house, which I was charged in the drink prices. Two beers and a Cuba libre were DOP 1000.[/QUOTE]That sounds like the correct price. Those fuck houses in Gascue that charged over 4000 for a girl would always have Cuba Libres for an overpriced 400 pesos (vs 200 at GBP) and beer for around the same.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2001153]I told him to stop begging all the time.[/QUOTE]LOL. A man after my own heart.

Mr. Prtyr2,

Ignoring your failed attempt at depreciating humor for now.

[QUOTE=AussieStiffler;1995960]I'll be here for another week or so. If anyone has any advice I would gladly appreciate it. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I was not addressing you at all Mr. Prtyr2 (Fact). I was letting Mr. AussieStiffler know that you are the self reported expert on Piano Bars in Santo Domingo having made reference to that in a previous post (Fact). Some would call that giving another person props. You took offense to it. That's your problem my man not mine. My Boca Chica comment was a response to Mr. Request for additional suggestions for locations and activities during his trip (Fact).

[QUOTE=Prtyr2;1999782]Have no clue what the boca comment is about. Never mongered there. Love it in daytime, not so much at night.[/QUOTE]Now, I'm not sure why you didn't understand that. In my opinion, it is because of your continued focus on form over substance. Your continued desire to make a point instead of adding anything substantive to the conversation. Or that your belief that living here "on and off for 20 years" makes you the expert on anything and everything Dominican.

Far from having anything going on like your girly man shit. I hope you can finally begin to understand that I prefer to stay focused on the facts. I prefer to add information when posting instead of just saying "I got nothing for ya" to add to my post count. And when I am stating my opinion I do it very clearly. Now my desire for you to understand presumes you don't have a reading comprehension problem in general (or is it just with my posts).

Friday afternoon, I got confused about exchange rates at the ATM and withdrew too much money to be holding given that I had less than 24 hours left before I needed to fly back. Maybe I'm getting senile or just confused from visiting 4 foreign countries with 4 different currencies in a 15 month period. I had enough pesos to monger on. But, after my visit to Boca Chica my back was aching from overuse and I felt like I was properly fucked enough. Time to be the tourist.

Wandered around Zona Colonial around dusk and generally checking out the scene. Avoided El Conde because I got predictable attempts by hustlers, (nothing like Boca Chica though) when I passed through there. It began to rain and I heard somebody singing very well, and thought it was a live meringue band. Turns out it was canned music coming from a Colmado on the corner of Santome and Calle Mercedes. Since it was raining I popped inside and saw it was just karaoke and the place was full of locals. But, the older guy singing karaoke was really good. I sat at the bar and ordered a beer. Some curious glances from the locals, but they didn't bother me. I looked around and saw some cute, younger gals just sitting around in plastic lawn chairs, eating something and some other couples taking it in. In walks a statuesque gal wearing a scant outfit that just screamed "HO". I think you guys know what I mean She was joined by another, darker girl who was less obvious and rather young. That one was licking a heart shaped lollipop, that was either a leftover from Valentine's Day or maybe a genuine accessory. She one glared at me while she tongued the lollipop. I wanted to inquire, but I got invited by the proprietor to sing a song. I declined but he insisted I sing something in English. I agreed to a few songs in my vocal range: "Spooky", "Heroes", "Love Is The Drug". I was surprised at the response. Dominicans were introducing themselves to me and asking me to sing more songs. I ended up drinking 3 or 4 more beers. I don't like karaoke but it is an ice breaker.

I was approached by a few old crones who wanted me to buy them a beer or take them back to my hotel, but I declined. I was thinking of approaching the girls with the "Ho" outfits to see what they could offer. But, in walks a petite, bleach blonde "rubia" wearing a revealing top that showed off her tanlines. Actually, she was just white and red. This was a white Latina with dark roots visible at her scalp. She went straight up to me and introduced herself (I already forgot her name). I motioned towards the back where it was quieter and she was straight to business. She spoke decent English, and asked the usual questions. "Where are you staying? Want to take me to your room?" I declined because I think the "boutique hotel" I was in was not the "guest friendly" type. Straight to the point. I said we should leave to her place and we were gone with her firmly holding my hand as we went down the street to what I though would be her place. I pitched the price question. "2 mil" she said. I told her a girl in Boca Chica came to my room for 1 mil. She replied that girls in Boca Chica are drug addicts (and girls that pick up strange foreign men in a Colmado are really clean "nice girls") But, that set the tone for the evening. She was not a prostitute, she said. The second time I heard that on my trip. I agreed to her excessive price, because I had withdrawn too much money and knew I would get f*cked again at the Cambio changing it back to USD. So, why not spend it? She said she could take us to a hotel where we could get a room. It was actually a worthwhile jaunt, and worth the premium paid, because little Miss Rubia gave me a quick but crucial tour. We made small talk and she mentioned something about me becoming her boyfriend.

We passed Conde and onto Calle Arbispo Nouel, and headed towards Parque Independencia. We passed a few clubs where there was a crowd of black males hanging out outside. Ms. Rubia informed me these were clubs for gay men and the guys hanging around outside were waiting on gay customers. Okay. I now know a few clubs to avoid. On the south side of the park, there were a number of good looking, much girls hanging around and sizing us up. Already, I knew there were better catches to be had, but I was getting a good tour. Ms. Rubia said she lived far away, but pointed out there were many hotels in this area where we could go to. I said I wanted some bottled water, and she turned us around and said, I know a hotel where they have that. We passed some more WGs outside the park and she led me through an unmarked doorway on Calle Palo Hincado just opposite the archway where the soldiers guard the entrance to the park during daytime. We went up a flight of stairs and there was a hotel. There was even a menu with beverages, including bottled water on the wall. There was also the option of a six-pack, bottle of rum, etc. The price posted on the wall was $350 DOP for two hours and $25 USD for a night. I paid for the room and the bottle of Dasani I needed and the big black guy behind the counter took us to the closest room.

The room was exactly like I imagined a cheap room in a ST Latin American hotel. Very sparse with an old CRT TV on the wall, showing a low-rez porn movie and a packaged condom on the nightstand. The bathroom looked like a retrofit setup, but it worked. Miss Rubia undressed while I took a peepee and she broke previous Dominicana precedent by not showering but hurrying to business. She had a bit more flesh than I liked, but her tanlines were those of a one-piece swimsuit. I asked if she just went to the "playa", and she said she worked at "La Piscina". Hmmm. I guess La Piscina doesn't pay enough to support her and her kid.

Boyfriend talk aside, Rubia was definitely a hard-core type who took the Kimono condom I gave her, and had me covered, pronto (I had to assure her that these were the Acura of condoms). She started a covered BJ, the first covered BJ I experienced on the trip. Less than five minutes in the room, and she jumped on top and trying to coax me into coming with that "Leche Papi" I was warned of. Silly girl. Just like those Colombianas. Doesn't realize I cannot cum when I am on the bottom and is about to wear herself out. Getting no results, she reverses herself and here is where it was worth it. The view of her milky ass bobbing up and down. Still no results and she gets off, looking a bit tired and a bit concerned that I am not getting off so quickly. She said she lives far away and needs to go home to her kid very soon. I flipped her on her back, pushed her legs back and give her a good, pounding that is clearly causing her some well-deserved discomfort. It took a while but when I finally blow my load and climb off, she is visibly relieved it is finally over. I hand her the condom to dispose of, and taking a look at the ample sperm collection at the end of the condom, she says "Aiii! That's a lot of babies!" Funniest thing I heard in weeks.

[QUOTE=RobbyBurns;1999461]Is there an issue with an Uber driver picking you up at the airport. Taxi driver resentment? Where do you tell the Uber driver to pick you up? Should I get in the front seat, so the taxistas won't know it is an Uber driver?

One other transportation question: Are there any busses from the airport directly up to Santiago, or do I have to go all the way into downtown SD to get a bus? I see that there is a bus station in Santo Domingo Este, but it is probably too risky for a gringo to use that station--right?[/QUOTE]Have taken uber from airport a few times. Never a problem. In the past some of the taxi mafia would DL the app and look to see where the uber drivers were parked and waiting. Then a few would go over and beat the driver up. The app had hanged and would not show any locations until you actually ordered a ride. That way only people with CC info and personal data on file would know location of an uber vehicle.

I think the drivers may have asked me to head upstairs to arrivals area so the taxi mafia would not see them. I doubt even the taxi mob would be brazen enough to start a beating in public at airport.

I don't live in SD, but use Uber a lot here in Santiago. Pricing is generally about 50% of taxi because the sindicado is not involved. I've had some difficulties but nothing to the scale I hear about in SD.

A key difference I've noticed in software use here in RD is that although the vehicle description and license are listed once a driver has accepted our request is that the Color of the car is not given. And unlike US you don't usually see a Uber placard in the windshield.

The software also affords you a way to call the driver. I always do so when around a lot of taxis. It allows me to tell the driver to meet me at a specific location, exchange ID information, etc. Whenever I can I prefer to walk away from the general loading area. Pulling a suitcase behind you implies you live here and meeting a friend. Less suspicious. Oh, and hanging around looking at your app, or holding your phone out to see where the car is, is a dead giveaway.

We mongers already know how to be discrete. Practice your skills.

[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2001973]Have taken uber from airport a few times. Never a problem. In the past some of the taxi mafia would DL the app and look to see where the uber drivers were parked and waiting. Then a few would go over and beat the driver up. The app had hanged and would not show any locations until you actually ordered a ride. That way only people with CC info and personal data on file would know location of an uber vehicle.

I think the drivers may have asked me to head upstairs to arrivals area so the taxi mafia would not see them. I doubt even the taxi mob would be brazen enough to start a beating in public at airport.[/QUOTE]

I woke up late on Saturday, feeling a backache from all the hard work I had imposed on it the past three days. I had fallen into a bad lifestyle since I returned from Thailand (which I had prepared for by a steady exercise regiment, a healthy diet and lots of nutritional supplements.) I was feeling old and tired. I had money left to blow before my plane left. How about a massage? There were girls on Conde who were hitting me up for a massage the previous day. Sounded like a good idea.

I walked down onto Conde and had barely gotten 5 yards before a young lady pushed a stroller in front of me and said "Masaje?" I looked in the stroller and it looked like a newborn. Mama had some curves and I was certain those tits were full of leche (I would like to have the chance to say "Leche, Mama, Leche! And that twat was probably still some sore from the delivery. "Tu?" I asked because she didn't seem a likely candidate and I assumed she was just a tout for some other operation, but she nodded her head. How much? 850? Hmmm. Okay. So she pulled me (and the baby) aside into some nail salon where there were a few closets with massage beds in them. Turns out 850 was for 20 minutes. 1500 for 45. I had 2000 to blow. I would pay the lady who ran the salon after I left.

Already, my mind is making a comparison to Thailand and it is not favorable to the DR. I know it is not fair, but I was in the Land of Smiles last December and you just don't shake that experience quickly, especially if you went to have a real massage every day. But, I had some cash to blow before I Ieft in less than two hours and this seemed like a good way to do it (I'd arranged a ride to the airport via Uber, so that would be charged to my card).

Mama introduced herself as Ivania. I told her, "you could be married to a billionaire with a name like that". However, she missed the joke. She deposited the baby somewhere (and came back to the room / closet. Gave a decent massage for a while, but was soon making the international sign of "manual release"? How much? 500. Motioned for me to be silent, as this was not an officially sanctioned HJ. Or maybe she was worried about what others would think. I nodded and she went to work. Soon she was also making the international sign of "Leche Papi". She would not remove her clothes, but did allow to reach in her pants and feel that ass, and slide my fingers between her thighs. That did it for me, and by the time I blew my nuts she already had a cloth in place to catch the jizz. Resumed the massage over the rest of me, and I realized she was just repeating the same massage she had given me. About five minutes later, she motions to me, if I want another HJ. What? I shook my head. She seemed puzzled and after rubbing down my thighs a bit more inquired again if I wanted another HJ. She seemed surprised when I answered no. Seriously? If she can make me come twice in less than 10 minutes, I won't just pay her. I will marry her and solve her financial predicament altogether. But, that didn't happen and ain't going to happen. Maybe those Dominican guys can pop twice in that situation, but not this 59-year old gringo.

She wrapped up the rest of the massage, got her 500 and insisted on putting her contact info in my phone. She wants a date? Why couldn't she just get to the point and skipped the massage detour. I could have taken her and baby around the corner to a ST hotel and let her keep all the money. Obviously, this girl was not getting much financial support from Papi, whoever he was. After paying the proprietress, I headed off to my motel, without distributing any propinas, much to the dismay of everyone. It was an okay massage and I felt better. But deep inside all I couldn't get around that fact that I had paid much less for a much better experience in recent months.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2002228] (I would like to have the chance to say "Leche, Mama, Leche!
.... If she can make me come twice in less than 10 minutes, I won't just pay her. I will marry her and solve her financial predicament altogether.[/QUOTE]That's some funny stuff.

Last October my boy and I got propositioned by a girl and she took him to the same salon to do the deed (she gave him full service). While I was waiting for him to get done, I was chatting with a young woman with a baby in a stroller. Her husband later came by and I told him about my trip to Peru as he is Peruvian living in the DR married to that Dominican woman. I doubt they are the same because the baby was older than your description.

Anyhow I'm at the airport now on my way down.

The airport is different but I've never had a problem with using uber in full view of taxistas.

[QUOTE=FlbMac31;2002164]I don't live in SD, but use Uber a lot here in Santiago. Pricing is generally about 50% of taxi because the sindicado is not involved. I've had some difficulties but nothing to the scale I hear about in SD.

A key difference I've noticed in software use here in RD is that although the vehicle description and license are listed once a driver has accepted our request is that the Color of the car is not given. And unlike US you don't usually see a Uber placard in the windshield.

The software also affords you a way to call the driver. I always do so when around a lot of taxis. It allows me to tell the driver to meet me at a specific location, exchange ID information, etc. Whenever I can I prefer to walk away from the general loading area. Pulling a suitcase behind you implies you live here and meeting a friend. Less suspicious. Oh, and hanging around looking at your app, or holding your phone out to see where the car is, is a dead giveaway.

We mongers already know how to be discrete. Practice your skills.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;2002356]That's some funny stuff.

Last October my boy and I got propositioned by a girl and she took him to the same salon to do the deed (she gave him full service). While I was waiting for him to get done, I was chatting with a young woman with a baby in a stroller. Her husband later came by and I told him about my trip to Peru as he is Peruvian living in the DR married to that Dominican woman. I doubt they are the same because the baby was older than your description.

Anyhow I'm at the airport now on my way down.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that story. Yes, it had occurred to me that she could be hooked up with somebody. Just not somebody who cared that much about what she was doing on the side or put her in a situation where she had to do things on the side. I am getting the impression that marital relationships involve less restrictions in the DR, than what we are used to in the States. Mama can fool around for her makeup money, correct?

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2002228]I woke up late on Saturday, feeling a backache. But deep inside all I couldn't get around that fact that I had paid much less for a much better experience in recent months.[/QUOTE]I feel this way all the time. It's not so much the money with me. I explain this explaining to chicas, I don't mind paying I just hate overpaying for bad service. Also I hate paying someone $60 for a half deserving rush job. When I paid someone $35 who needed the money and worked hard for it. Good report!

Could any of you tell me of any good bars for freelancers, and their best night (s) of the week? I am bored with the Ave Pasteur scene, and am looking for something similar to a Rumbas or Classicos in Sosua. It can even be a small drinking bar where only half or so of the girls are working.

It's been a few years, but I went to a semi-pro club in the Venezuela district that was all right. I've heard about various other places, but know of nothing currently.

I'll have Uber and the ability to bounce around the city. Any help with the name of the place, approximate location, & best night of the week would be greatly appreciated!

So I left Santiago on Monday Independence Day and made my way down to SD. Checked into my hotel then ventured out to the malecon, where there was a military parade. Found a spot to sit and watch. Started talking to the cutie next to me. Pretty soon that turned into flirting. She is a university student from San Cristobal and had her little brother with her. I didn't have anything planned so I volunteered to drive them back to San Cristobal and check out the sights there. (I've been to SC with a cupid chica a few years back.) It was complete mayhem at the town square. They've had their Carnaval earlier but now it's an open air dance party. Everybody in SC must've been out of their house. I got us something to eat then dropped them off at home. I know most "regular" DR girls require a second date to do anything so I was patient. We agreed to meet the following day.

By now it was late and I remember GBP closes at midnight. Thankfully they were open even on Independence Day. I made it by 10:30 pm and it was just me, another male client, and 7 to 8 girls. They proceeded with giving me free lap dances. That with drinking, joking and music, it was a lot of fun. Four of them strongly pleaded with me to take them. I couldn't decide which one! I had to assign each a number on a small piece of paper and draw the lucky winner. All the girls cheered when I picked my winner.

The following day I did some sight seeing at a leisurely pace in the Colonial Zone. My feeling is that El Conde is the worst thing about Zona Colonial (other than getting approached for easily available pussy). The historical architecture is much richer on the side streets, and there are a couple of gems of attractions that don't get enough tourists.

At night I missed the SC girl's WhatsApp message so we didn't meet up. I tried to find this spot Exclusivo Night Club (see the newspaper classified ad) drove all the way over to SD Este but didn't see anything. Called and no one answered. Since I was on that side, I went to Andy Sports Bar (carwash) on Avenida Espana. There were only a few girls there in waitress uniform, the rest were there to eat / drink with male friends. So I moved on -- back to the tried and true GBP. Besides there was a girl with a big ass that I really wanted. And had her I did. 1200 pesos for a fun, almost GFE time, who can argue with that?!

The next day I had to check out and then get to the airport to head home. I told the college girl to come see me. By the time she arrived from San Cristobal we only had about 1. 5 hour before checking out. At first she gave me some resistance (shit tests -- yes I've been reading PUA stuff) but eventually I broke through. Then in the big bathtub, she even gave me a BBBJCIMNQNS. What a great send off!! I bought her McDonald's for lunch and dropped her off at UASD. Then I got to SDQ and boarded my flight home.

See photo of the classified ad attached. Looks like there are a few spots in SD that need to be explored.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;2005886]

By now it was late and I remember GBP closes at midnight. Thankfully they were open even on Independence Day. I made it by 10:30 pm and it was just me, another male client, and 7 to 8 girls. They proceeded with giving me free lap dances. That with drinking, joking and music, it was a lot of fun. Four of them strongly pleaded with me to take them. I couldn't decide which one! I had to assign each a number on a small piece of paper and draw the lucky winner. All the girls cheered when I picked my winner.
.[/QUOTE]They probably were saying- we been given this motherfucker free lap dances all night it's time to go home. Can you hurry up and pick so we can get the hell out of here. You're the only client in here the other guy is here to pick up his daughter. Whoever he picks better fuck him good for holding us up.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;2005886]

At night I missed the SC girl's WhatsApp message so we didn't meet up. I tried to find this spot Exclusivo Night Club (see the newspaper classified ad) drove all the way over to SD Este but didn't see anything. Called and no one answered. Since I was on that side, I went to Andy Sports Bar (carwash) on Avenida Espana. There were only a few girls there in waitress uniform, the rest were there to eat / drink with male friends. So I moved on -- back to the tried and true GBP. Besides there was a girl with a big ass that I really wanted. And had her I did. 1200 pesos for a fun, almost GFE time, who can argue with that?!

T
See photo of the classified ad attached. Looks like there are a few spots in SD that need to be explored.[/QUOTE]Exclusivo is hard to find. It is on the marginal of las americas between the two forks of san vincent de paul. Best bet is use google maps to find the new horizons school on the marginal. Ejecutivo is a block or so east and is not marked. Big yellow / orange type mansion usually with watchman sitting out front. Just ask him. You walk in driveway and he may follow and buzz the door so chicas stand up and get ready for lineup. Usually 10-15 girls and can be hit or miss. They rotate fairly frequently.

What type of ladies are at Exclusivo Night Club? All freelancers like a Classico's or Insomnia in Pattaya?

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2006493]What type of ladies are at Exclusivo Night Club? All freelancers like a Classico's or Insomnia in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Nope. This place has been around for many years. Started off as a basic massage parlor in a mansion, similar to la mansion near mega centro and another long gone MP in a mansion near anacaona. Can't remember the name of that place but the woman that ran it passed away.

Ejecutivo seemed to want to be more of a strip club. Put in stripper pole for a bit. BIG place. They have rooms onsite and girls are not freelance. Can have good lineup, or be full of chubby chicas. Lineup changes as often as most other places. Was run by cuban guy for years Then that guy was briefly at pink cafe bar, and then ran Galleros. He has not been at galleros for a while so no idea where he wound up. All the players make the rounds.

Ejecutivo's claim to fame used to be pool parties outside and they were the first to take credit cards. Not sure either is still the case. Pool parties for sure are not.

Thanks Partyr2 for the info. Since the scene AR Ejecutivo is not really my thing right now I'll probably pass on the place.

I am hoping to hit some straight freelancer places in SD, but I'm getting the feeling they might not exist. I made an inquiry here about a week ago but no hits.

Trying to remember the name of the Mansion type place off of anacaona, got me thinking about tons of places that are long gone. Should be funny to see how many people remember these places. I am sure I will miss a bunch but the list could be very long:

LE Petit Chateau. Maleçon near cabanas.

Mona Lisa calle danae.

Suenos real socorro sanchez.

Spa michelle calle santiago gazcue.

Elegante pasteur.

Cisney pasteur became girl's house.

Lapsus behind jaragua.

Tabu next to lapsus.

La parada behind "la ceniza".

Casa modelos zona universitaria.

Casa rosada / casa azul / pablitos.

Remington palace independencia may be best place ever.

Par de 5 or 55 villa agrícola.

Spa Estefany. Garcia godoy.

Penthouse calle privada.

Hawaii near presidente factory.

Casa Australia villa agricola in private house.

Playboy club zona colonial.

Herminia.

Bon sua which apparently has "reopened with different owners. They were long gone.

Solteros ave las americas strip club.

Isla de la fama. Near duarte.

Clase aparte villa juana.

La fragrancia villa juana.

Casa alondra in arroyos hondo.

Manolo near pablitos.

Casa de coco off maximo gomez.

The' blanca in alma rosa II.

Jazzy's avenida espana burned down, owner went to jail as 6 chicas died in fire.

Discoteca denoche malecon near vesuvio.

Feliz cache tied with bon sua for lowest class places in la capital.

Names I can't remember, getting old:

MP owned by dude from Boston near tele micro.

Another MP maybe called OM also near telemicro.

MP off of charles degaulle near manzana ran by girl that used to manage mona lisa.

MP in isabelita owned by grumpy german guy.

Another short lived MP in isabelita owned by dominican dude that grew up in Germany, had a pool and nice backyard.

Short lived MP near pricesmart, owner was shot and killed, he used to own a place on the malecon but can't remember his name.

Short lived MP owned by spaniard near acropolis, used to have girls walk out and then wait in kitchen until client picked one, weird set up.

Strip club on carretera mendoza long gone.

Club on 27 second floor near furniture store, lots of haitian girls.

Outdoor / indoor place next to tabu behind managua, ran by dominican named juan.

Strip club on las americas on right hand side coming from airport.

MP upstairs from Colmado BBB on avenida espana, ran by dominican girl and european husband.

MP on independencia second floor next to clinic near presidente.

MP on pasteur next to sports book.

Monaco on Malecon, low end strip club, fixed up and became Foxys.

52 on deligne behind managua owned by korean guy. Great place.

Piano Bars that closed:

Jotas on Nunez.

Mameyes on tiradentes.

XXOO near Mameyes.

Puro Cafe villa agricola.

Jey Jey betancourt.

Babalu in the back of liquor store on betancourt.

Franklin's on betancourt, may still be open with different name?

Pal alba independencia.

Hot Cafe independencia.

Pool hall above Hot Cafe.

Bar at casona dorada, though only had three waitresses.

Billar on second floor near caribe tours may have had the waitress with best body I have ever seen in DR.

Conejos in villa agricola.

I am sure I have forgotten some. Anyone know any I missed?

"Freelancer" means many things to many people. Mostly I guess it's the fantasy of charming the pants off a girl. There is the Conde and the Plaza Colon. If you prefer being indoors and have time to spare you can also hang around discos on Venezuela and San Vicente. The disco at the Jaragua might strike your fancy if you don't mind a few miles on your girl. Try searching this forum for places that are like what you have in mind.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2006803]Thanks Partyr2 for the info. Since the scene AR Ejecutivo is not really my thing right now I'll probably pass on the place.

I am hoping to hit some straight freelancer places in SD, but I'm getting the feeling they might not exist. I made an inquiry here about a week ago but no hits.[/QUOTE]

That's a nice stroll down memory lane. Some of the places you listed are still in operation. I think the place near telemicro you were thinking of was called "Omi". The owner's son got locked up for weed found in quantity on the premises. Ah, the golden age of Gazcue.

[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2006809]Trying to remember the name of the Mansion type place off of anacaona, got me thinking about tons of places that are long gone. Should be funny to see how many people remember these places. I am sure I will miss a bunch but the list could be very long:

LE Petit Chateau. Maleon near cabanas.

Mona Lisa calle danae.

Suenos real socorro sanchez.

Spa michelle calle santiago gazcue.

Elegante pasteur.

Cisney pasteur became girl's house.

Lapsus behind jaragua.

Tabu next to lapsus.[/QUOTE]

Impressive list. My all time favorite was Remington Palace. Lots of pretty girl, easily around 40 each night I visited. The place near the sport bank on Pasteur lasted only a few months, Isaw there the prettiest girl ever in DR. , ownership was related to current GBP owners. Australia was gone? Elegant Center was a nice place. The place on Hermanos Deligne owned by korean guy I believe was Yellow House, I had fun there, the girls did strip and lesbian shows for free. Good old times where you walked around and it was easier to find a girl anytime. Now they are all online.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2007134]Impressive list. My all time favorite was Remington Palace. Lots of pretty girl, easily around 40 each night I visited. The place near the sport bank on Pasteur lasted only a few months, Isaw there the prettiest girl ever in DR. , ownership was related to current GBP owners. Australia was gone? Elegant Center was a nice place. The place on Hermanos Deligne owned by korean guy I believe was Yellow House, I had fun there, the girls did strip and lesbian shows for free. Good old times where you walked around and it was easier to find a girl anytime. Now they are all online.[/QUOTE]I t5 hink Australia is closed. Stopped by maybe a year ago just to say Hello, to her. Have known her for almost 20 years. She always talked about how Patrick, Ronnie and the original boca chica guys helped her get started. She said patrick bought her a cooler for the beer to sell. First time there was its a fellow TSM guy and taxi dave drove us. Taxi dave was legendary.

Remington was great when they first opened. Chicas signed on for six months and turnover was decent. They had to sleep 2-3 in a bed with fan, no AC. I believed they paid for food and salon services on site. The point was they could get a client and if back before 12 midnight could get a second for TLN. They had to be back by 11 am or pay a fine. In those days there was none of this "negotiating" crap. They were 90% GFE unless they found you repulsive or were pure pro. The problem was never getting them to stay all night, it was getting them to leave in the morning. The remington system of paying touts was also smart. It was 2,000 pesos whether you went solo or with taxi. They paid the taxi driver 800 pesos out of their take. Basically making only 200 pesos on salida but realizing the real money was in selling drinks. I had buddies that were taxi drivers. They would take me there, collect 800 pesos and then try to give it to me next day. I would split it with them for being honest.

Hottest dominicana I ever saw? Had to be 5'11" or so and worked in Jota's bar for maybe a week. I saw her there one night but had a different waitress. She came over and flirted a few times. A week or two later I went back to see if I could up the flirting. She was gone. Dominican business man had her "kept". Paid her 10,000 pesos a month to not work. She was on call for when he could lose the wife and hook up with her. That was SOP back then. Still is I guess just more expensive.

Yellow house was 52. The biz card actually said casa 52. Owner was busted during the gazcue clean up. Back in those days there were maybe 10 places within walking distance and most open in the daytime. Kept trips interesting as there were "bars" to go have a beer at starting at around noon. I had made a map and there were dudes waling up and down danae looking for mona lisa. None of these places were marked. Heck I remember first vista to Disney. Walk up and they actually had hair dryers etc in the window so it looked like a salon. Door was locked though. Ring bell and cute chica in skin tight pink dress opens door. Walk into bar and there are maybe 10 chicas in matching dresses, with the barmaid not wearing pantis and doing a sharon stone every few minutes.

The two older places were mona lisa and elegante. The "famous" chica at mona lisa was carolina. Someone posted her pic on TSM and she got tons of clients from that. Nice tits, nice face. Years later I walk into elegante and carolina was there or so I thought. She said Hello, to me every time I walked in. Took me a while to learn that was her sister Joanna. Saw Joanna at boca chica once with gringo BF and she slyly said Hello, with a look like "don't blow my cover". LOL. Same happened with a chica from 52. I was at davey crockett steakhouse which was THE place back then. Some chica is sheepishly looking at me sort of embarrassed. Sitting with gringo "date", on my way out I finally remembered where I knew her from.

I do remember a gringo "guide" that lived in spa michelle or with michelle for awhile. He would post inflated prices here and promise his "clients" he could get them "real" prices. I would correct him and post legit prices and how to make sure you get them. That lead to him sort of threatening me saying he knew who I was and I should watch my back, LOL.

Other places I am not sure if still open or if open how they are going include Shylo, and MC. Also Paco's out by airport. He used to parade his girls all dolled up into Darren's in Boca Chica on weekend nights. Maybe next trip into las america's I will stop by just to see if open.

Those days are gone forever. Guys that think DR rocks now, have NO idea. Heck I know guys that tel me I missed the best times! The old Joke was a gringo sitting in an outdoor bar or pacos on el conde could hold up one finger for one girl, two if they wanted two.

[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2007143]Those days are gone forever. Guys that think DR rocks now, have NO idea. Heck I know guys that tel me I missed the best times! [/QUOTE]Sounds like the best era of SD easily beats the pants off the best of Sosua! I know I would enjoy the capitol a lot more. Thanks for the walk down memory lane.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;2007164]Sounds like the best era of SD easily beats the pants off the best of Sosua! I know I would enjoy the capitol a lot more. Thanks for the walk down memory lane.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Prtyr2;2007143]....Those days are gone forever. Guys that think DR rocks now, have NO idea. Heck I know guys that tel me I missed the best times! The old Joke was a gringo sitting in an outdoor bar or pacos on el conde could hold up one finger for one girl, two if they wanted two.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the memories Prtyr2.

I remember a certain poster would stay at Riazor and walk out onto the balcony at night. Look down on Independencia and summon up one or two chicas without ever leaving his room. Let's not forget the colmado on Independencia across from Navarro Hotel. That was the meeting spot for ISG members and chicas every night of the week.

Pacos always had at least two inside tables with chicas every night of the week.

At Prtyr2, I hear the same crap from guys trying to tell me SD and BC are ten times better today than it was ten years ago. They have no clue.

It would be nice to know which ones. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2007073]That's a nice stroll down memory lane. Some of the places you listed are still in operation. .[/QUOTE].

I'm going to assume everybody is up to date on the Pasteur strip. The places come and go with slightly different names. Some of the other places you can still visit today:

Casa Rosada / casa Azul / Pablitos, Paraguay, gone but deserves special mention because you had to dodge the trannys to get there LOL!

Penthouse calle privada. (Penthouse is gone 10 years now but I think number 7 Privada reopens regularly) this is really old school Ptyr, I'm impressed.

Casa Australia villa agricola in private house. (still going strong after 25+ years, she's a classic & son is back in the picture).

Bon sua which apparently has "reopened with different owners. They were long gone.

Casa de Coco off Maximo Gomez. (no longer there but deserves extra special mention because of how sleazy it was & how many amazing finds you could get there, it was the place to work if you were from the campo but didn't have it together enough to own clothing or show up 2 days in a row).

The' Blanca in Alma Rosa II. (D'Blanca, who also had a place in Boca Chica in the late 90's, still lives in Alma Rosa but operates quietly & by appointment only).

MP on Pasteur next to sports book.

Monaco on Malecon, low end strip club, fixed up and became Foxys.

One you didn't mention is Tabu II in front of the Embajador. It's still there but I don't recommend it because of the prices aimed at business guys staying in the hotel.

[QUOTE=DCups;2007334]It would be nice to know which ones. Thanks..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BqRibs;2007298]Thanks for the memories Prtyr2.

I remember a certain poster would stay at Riazor and walk out onto the balcony at night. Look down on Independencia and summon up one or two chicas without ever leaving his room. Let's not forget the colmado on Independencia across from Navarro Hotel. That was the meeting spot for ISG members and chicas every night of the week.

Pacos always had at least two inside tables with chicas every night of the week.

At Prtyr2, I hear the same crap from guys trying to tell me SD and BC are ten times better today than it was ten years ago. They have no clue.[/QUOTE]The colmado across from Navarro was cool. I think there was a robbery or shooting there a while back. Some of the girls from local MPs would go there after MP closed. I always thought a good business would be a "regular" bar in gazcue. No salidas, no "pimping" etc. Just sell beer and booze, maybe food to customers. Promote it to chicas that could stop by at 10 PM after the MPs closed or 3-4 PM before night time places opened. Let them freelance all they want. Only problems were most daytime places closed and cheap charlie would complain about a 150 peso beer, and would plan on nursing one beer all night or avoid the massive 150 peso investment by getting chica's digits. . . . LOL.

I agree on the guys that say SD and BC are better now than 10 years ago. Not even close. However I would say 10 years ago didn't compare to 20 years ago! I know old timers that would laugh at me and say 20 years ago was lame and 30 years ago was the golden age.

Heck 20 years ago managua was a gold mine. Sure some hard cores, but even they were GFE compared to today. Also a mix of college students looking to make a few bucks or chicas that were tired of dominican dudes and knew there were gringos at Jaragua. They were fishing for LTR. I always found the waitresses and blackjack dealers more of a challenge, if it could be called that. Never got one of the singers in the band. That would have been cool.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2007454]I'm going to assume everybody is up to date on the Pasteur strip. The places come and go with slightly different names. Some of the other places you can still visit today:

Casa Rosada / casa Azul / Pablitos, Paraguay, gone but deserves special mention because you had to dodge the trannys to get there LOL!

Penthouse calle privada. (Penthouse is gone 10 years now but I think number 7 Privada reopens regularly) this is really old school Ptyr, I'm impressed.

Casa Australia villa agricola in private house. (still going strong after 25+ years, she's a classic & son is back in the picture).

Bon sua which apparently has "reopened with different owners. They were long gone.

Casa de Coco off Maximo Gomez. (no longer there but deserves extra special mention because of how sleazy it was & how many amazing finds you could get there, it was the place to work if you were from the campo but didn't have it together enough to own clothing or show up 2 days in a row).

The' Blanca in Alma Rosa II. (D'Blanca, who also had a place in Boca Chica in the late 90's, still lives in Alma Rosa but operates quietly & by appointment only).

MP on Pasteur next to sports book.

Monaco on Malecon, low end strip club, fixed up and became Foxys.

One you didn't mention is Tabu II in front of the Embajador. It's still there but I don't recommend it because of the prices aimed at business guys staying in the hotel.[/QUOTE]I tried to note which ones may be opened but in a different format or under new ownership. D' Blanca was a trip. BTW sorry for all the damn spell check errors. The Blanca? WTF. I am pretty sure in the "Blanca alma rosa, mona lisa and michelle I got BBBJ at the damn bar or on the couch. Hmmm. . . . actually add MC to that list from the owner's "niece". Never cost a dime. When I see guys "negotiating" for BBBJ, I die laughing. Back in the day it was "marketing". Today they don't get the concept of if a guys dick is hard, he is more likely to get a chica. Today, they line up, if you don't pick in 45 seconds, they are back on WhatsApp. If I was single again, I would pretty much never monger. I still dig going to the bars to remember how it used to be and watch the reality TV happening before my eyes. I also never realized D'Blanca in Boca was same owner. Never saw anything but fat or ugly chicas in the boca location.

Australia's son is funny. Never was the same since she was busted way back when. Then for a while she had her "daughter" which she was not doing a great job of raising, but then I had heard the daughter was available. Whacky. Par de 5 or 55 down the block was good when the new closing times happened. Bars would close at 12 AM but they would stay open until whenever and you could buy grandes to drink cheaply. Once in a while a diamond in the rough.

Have not even tried Privada 7 in 10 years. Good to know they are sort of still around. Another place was the one on second floor on luperon across from Corripio. Pink Pony or similar? Bon Sua supposedly has venezuelan chicas according to bathroom attendant in Plaza Caribe across the park. Bon Sua was almost as bad as Feliz Cachet. That place scared even me.

Actually funny story. One of my first trips some chica wants to take me to a "strip club". I would travel to DR directly from a business trip and was actually still wearing "suit" sort of. No tie, and actually a t shirt under the jacket but it wasn't black or navy, more of a dark purple. Didn't look like Huggie Bear but still stuck out like sore thumb. Girl tells taxi Feliz Cache. He refused to take me until I said it was cool. May have been a mistake. Huge crowd across the street, drinking and dancing in the street. I get out of taxi in bad neighborhood in a damn suit. Swear to god it was an EF Hutton Commercial. Dead Silence as a few hundred stare at this goofy gringo. I decided to walk to door confidently speak my limited spanish to try and not look like a dopey tourist. We walk in and I wanted to pay the girls to put their clothes back on.

Bon Sua, I showed up hammered late one night. I walk in and the place is a dump. I sit down in a moldy couch and a chica behind me calls me. She is on a chair with no pantis, fingering herself. Uhm. . . . ok. Then a haitian girl sits next to me and in 20 seconds has my hand under her dress. No panties. She has my finger inside her in under 30 seconds. A bit later she wants to hang out after hours. I was not done partying or drinking yet but didn't want her back at my hotel. We went to "la lata" on the malecon. Very dark tables where couples would fool around late at night if they lacked funds for cabanas. She starts pouring her heart out giving me hard sell that she wants a serious BF etc. I am trying to hold in the laughter. I am thinking having a guy finger you in under 30 seconds, may not result in a LTR? Ha ha ha ha.

Are you saying the MP on pasteur next to sports book is still open? Would have to be new owners as that place was very short lived. There is a "peluqueria" in plaza on pasteur and santiago that is low key. Never went in as they have no bar, LOL.

Man, those sound like fun times.

[QUOTE=Troubleman69;2007509]Man, those sound like fun times.[/QUOTE]Yep, but like I said to a guy that has been there 30-40 years, 20 years ago was not all that great!

[QUOTE=BqRibs;2007298]Thanks for the memories Prtyr2.

I remember a certain poster would stay at Riazor and walk out onto the balcony at night. Look down on Independencia and summon up one or two chicas without ever leaving his room. Let's not forget the colmado on Independencia across from Navarro Hotel. That was the meeting spot for ISG members and chicas every night of the week.

Pacos always had at least two inside tables with chicas every night of the week.

At Prtyr2, I hear the same crap from guys trying to tell me SD and BC are ten times better today than it was ten years ago. They have no clue.[/QUOTE]I have been visiting Santo Domingo since 1998, about 50 trips. It was better before than now, the internet era. I loved to walk from guest friendly Jaragua to El Conde and to receive propositions every time I did the walk. It was not rare walking the alleys from main Jaragua building to garden rooms and having a chat with a couple of service providers. Girls were basically everywhere, not only on El Conde area. I remember a 100% gay free Pacos, also with a higher percentage of the clients being service providers. Tho only bizarre thing in the area was a guy chasing girls, offering balloons and ham and cheese sandwiches.

Lapsus had a strip show with girls wearing sexy costumes stripping to full nude. Elegant Center had massage tables, it was on Pasteur, with good prices for full service. Jaragua casino was packed with full service providers, it was common seen over a dozen of them together inside Merengue bar. Yes, I remember the sight of girls from Riazor rooms. Scene has changed but you can still have a good time.

Ptyr I also went to Felix Cachet. Somebody tolds us go there that is the best place on the city. We went there and my butt was pinched and slapped a few times by ugly chicas while I was walking to the bar. We usually rate girls from 1 to 10, that was the first time I rated girls from -1 to -10.

Please provide info of the MP near sports bank on Pasteur.

Many thanks, Mr. Knowledge. I usually go through my roster of busty cupid chicas but sometimes like to branch out. I stay in Gascue or Colonial Zone. Most of these are near there, yes? Are any of them populated by the chi chis muy grande? Jjajajajajaj.

QUOTE Knowledge I'm going to assume everybody is up to date on the Pasteur strip. The places come and go with slightly different names. Some of the other places you can still visit today QUOTE.

Of course girls are still everywhere. It's only the quantity of organized casas and massage parlors that has gone down in central residential areas like Gazcue and Ensanche Quisqueya. There are still just as many but they are not as convenient as in the 80's and 90's. Back then, like Boricua says, everything was within easy walking distance to the big foreigner hotels on the Malecon and the Colonial Zone. Now, you have to drive or use uber or taxis. Quite a few places are in or west of Los Prados. In the other direction, east of the river, there are lots of places but they are in out of the way locations and not convenient for visiting foreigners. It's the result of the post Hipolito tourism ministries looking to get rid of the Dominican Republic's worsening reputation as a sex tourist destination. It's hard to deny that when you have dozens of touts yelling at every passing car and pedestrian on Pasteur and pointing to blinking neon signs.

My opinion is that it isn't any worse now than 25-30 years ago. It is just different. I am saying this first hand, not based on what I read or what somebody told me. It's normal that things change. I also remember back in those days it was hard to find international cuisine in Santo Domingo. Today, there are 4 major restaurant rows with every kind of food from world class gourmet restaurants, mid range chains like Chilis and Applebees, and the low end McDonalds, Sbarros, etc. It's all good.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2007529]I have been visiting Santo Domingo since 1998, about 50 trips. It was better before than now, the internet era. I loved to walk from guest friendly Jaragua to El Conde and to receive propositions every time I did the walk. It was not rare walking the alleys from main Jaragua building to garden rooms and having a chat with a couple of service providers. Girls were basically everywhere, not only on El Conde area. I remember a 100% gay free Pacos, also with a higher percentage of the clients being service providers. Tho only bizarre thing in the area was a guy chasing girls, offering balloons and ham and cheese sandwiches.

Lapsus had a strip show with girls wearing sexy costumes stripping to full nude. Elegant Center had massage tables, it was on Pasteur, with good prices for full service. Jaragua casino was packed with full service providers, it was common seen over a dozen of them together inside Merengue bar. Yes, I remember the sight of girls from Riazor rooms. Scene has changed but you can still have a good time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2007783]Of course girls are still everywhere. It's only the quantity of organized casas and massage parlors that has gone down in central residential areas like Gazcue and Ensanche Quisqueya. There are still just as many but they are not as convenient as in the 80's and 90's. Back then, like Boricua says, everything was within easy walking distance to the big foreigner hotels on the Malecon and the Colonial Zone. Now, you have to drive or use uber or taxis. Quite a few places are in or west of Los Prados. In the other direction, east of the river, there are lots of places but they are in out of the way locations and not convenient for visiting foreigners. It's the result of the post Hipolito tourism ministries looking to get rid of the Dominican Republic's worsening reputation as a sex tourist destination. It's hard to deny that when you have dozens of touts yelling at every passing car and pedestrian on Pasteur and pointing to blinking neon signs.

My opinion is that it isn't any worse now than 25-30 years ago. It is just different. I am saying this first hand, not based on what I read or what somebody told me. It's normal that things change. I also remember back in those days it was hard to find international cuisine in Santo Domingo. Today, there are 4 major restaurant rows with every kind of food from world class gourmet restaurants, mid range chains like Chilis and Applebees, and the low end McDonalds, Sbarros, etc. It's all good.[/QUOTE]I think it was much better 20 years ago, for chicas any way. Not so much for quantity or location of places but attitude of the chicas. Back then anything less than GFE was rare. Now guys have to negotiate up front for BBJ, DFK or TLN? That was the norm back then. If you are into the pick a hot chica out of the lineup, maybe not as much difference. I was always more about chemistry or personality. At remington, they would line up but usually there would be a shy one in the back just making eye contact. They were usually the most fun. Also gringos were more of a novelty.

Another difference I noticed at some point. Back in the day, 95% of the chicas "working" were single moms looking to support the kids or pay for university. I remember the first few times chicas said they had no kids and were not studying. They were in it for the "bling". The chicas started having better cels than I did. The quality and brands of clothes improved. The frequency of salon visits, hair extensions, boob jobs etc went up. I can say that I actually did very little actual mongering. Most chicas I went with I got the vibe that had we met under other circumstances we still may have hooked up.

I used to dig the "piano bars". Full of 'waitresses". No formal policy, no salidas. Chicas were there to serve drinks, dance and flirt. Businessmen would buy a bottle of Scotch and just enjoy the company of a young attractive chica and most times then head home to the wife. They were buying attention mostly and sex occasionally. Girls were not obligated to go out with clients. The customers tipped very well and the chicas could make much more than in a normal job, but not have to be a hooker if she didn't want to. Sure many wound up with novios, amantes, patrones etc that would help with expenses in exchange for company and sex. Most of these places closed. Maybe because the clientele tended to be older and maybe they go out less now. I also noticed many times a guy would buy a bottle of Johnnie walker Green or even blue, but the three chicas at his table would only look up once in a blue moon from WhatsApp chatting with amigas, novios, clients etc. I am sure many customers found better ways to spend their money and there are only a few places like that still around. One actually makes the girls deposit cels in a box before shift starts.

Over the years I lost most interest in mongering, though I totally get the appeal. In the old days out of 10 chicas 6 may be good, 3 great and one not so good. By good I mean, better than 90% of today's but not great by the standards back then. Now I think what was great back then is like a unicorn now and what was good or ok back then is great now.

I guess the DR is like pizza. Even when not so great, it is still pretty good.

Going to casas is never a high for me. Girls in casas are fucking everyday. If they can manufactor GFE they are very talented. I enjoy SD but I use the pros sparingly. I will do an occasional SW but for me the cupid girls are my play. Having a girlfriend to see the city with is always a blast. Iam little north of 60 so trolling for babes is nolonger my strong suit. I have enough girls in my phone that I can orchestrate an amazing time there.

Guys having to negotiate for kissing or BBJ is news to me. I have to read this forum more often. I would never have guessed this to be the case.

[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2007844]I think it was much better 20 years ago, for chicas any way. Not so much for quantity or location of places but attitude of the chicas. Back then anything less than GFE was rare. Now guys have to negotiate up front for BBJ, DFK or TLN? That was the norm back then. If you are into the pick a hot chica out of the lineup, maybe not as much difference. I was always more about chemistry or personality. At remington, they would line up but usually there would be a shy one in the back just making eye contact. They were usually the most fun. Also gringos were more of a novelty.

Another difference I noticed at some point. Back in the day, 95% of the chicas "working" were single moms looking to support the kids or pay for university. I remember the first few times chicas said they had no kids and were not studying. They were in it for the "bling". The chicas started having better cels than I did. The quality and brands of clothes improved. The frequency of salon visits, hair extensions, boob jobs etc went up. I can say that I actually did very little actual mongering. Most chicas I went with I got the vibe that had we met under other circumstances we still may have hooked up..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BqRibs;2007298]Thanks for the memories Prtyr2.

I remember a certain poster would stay at Riazor and walk out onto the balcony at night. Look down on Independencia and summon up one or two chicas without ever leaving his room. Let's not forget the colmado on Independencia across from Navarro Hotel. That was the meeting spot for ISG members and chicas every night of the week.

Pacos always had at least two inside tables with chicas every night of the week.

At Prtyr2, I hear the same crap from guys trying to tell me SD and BC are ten times better today than it was ten years ago. They have no clue.[/QUOTE]Yall done brought Bq out of retirement, hahaha!

Welcome back bro! If only for a brief visit.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2007856]I will do an occasional SW but for me the cupid girls are my play. Having a girlfriend to see the city with is always a blast. Iam little north of 60 so trolling for babes is nolonger my strong suit. I have enough girls in my phone that I can orchestrate an amazing time there.[/QUOTE]For guys like OldKool and myself who missed out on the "Golden Era" of SD (and the entire DR in general), the internet has been our saving grace. Imagine just reaching retiring age and only discovering mongering today and realizing you're 30 yrs later to the game! For me, I had found the DR and Sosua at the tail-end of 2008. I would say that 2009-early 2010 was right before what many consider the place going to shit (mostly due to improvements in internet speeds and SMS / Smart Phone communication ironically).

When cleanups happened, most chicas moved their game online to places like Badoo, Cupid, Facebook, etc. It's a lot easier to find chicas looking for money without having to go trolling up and down the block looking for them. Probably a lot safer in this regard in some ways.

I'm sure a lot of you would agree that trying to schedule things with chicas via SMS has been a lot easier than via email, than via cell phone calls, than via pay phones, than via post cards and mailing letters, hahaha!

Sure, blame it on cell phones and the Internet. Like I said, the game is different now but I don't really consider it any worse. In a way it's easier because when you meet a girl on the street and want to see her later you can exchange details and maintain contact until you meet again. In the old days it was, "meet me here tomorrow at 3 pm."

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2009024]For guys like OldKool and myself who missed out on the "Golden Era" of SD (and the entire DR in general), the internet has been our saving grace. Imagine just reaching retiring age and only discovering mongering today and realizing you're 30 yrs later to the game! For me, I had found the DR and Sosua at the tail-end of 2008. I would say that 2009-early 2010 was right before what many consider the place going to shit (mostly due to improvements in internet speeds and SMS / Smart Phone communication ironically).

When cleanups happened, most chicas moved their game online to places like Badoo, Cupid, Facebook, etc. It's a lot easier to find chicas looking for money without having to go trolling up and down the block looking for them. Probably a lot safer in this regard in some ways.

I'm sure a lot of you would agree that trying to schedule things with chicas via SMS has been a lot easier than via email, than via cell phone calls, than via pay phones, than via post cards and mailing letters, hahaha![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2009138]Sure, blame it on cell phones and the Internet. Like I said, the game is different now but I don't really consider it any worse. In a way it's easier because when you meet a girl on the street and want to see her later you can exchange details and maintain contact until you meet again. In the old days it was, "meet me here tomorrow at 3 pm."[/QUOTE]Sure, I don't think meeting "normal" girls has changed much. Probably for the better, without factoring the gringo novelty effect being much diminished. The casas and "mongering" to me has gone downhill. Doesn't really effect me at all and if newer guys have nothing to compare it to, I am sure it is still pretty darn good.

Yes, I think you are right. Consider this also, gringos in the Dominican Republic have not been a novelty since long before anyone reading this was born. It's not like the Colonial Zone was only frequented by Dominicans until the Internet era. I think more of the gringos in those days were from Europe than North America. The Dominican Republic, on the other hand, was a novelty for all of us at one time or another or even now in some cases. That is what wears off over time, the novelty of the Dominican Republic to us.

[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2009210]Sure, I don't think meeting "normal" girls has changed much. Probably for the better, without factoring the gringo novelty effect being much diminished. The casas and "mongering" to me has gone downhill. Doesn't really effect me at all and if newer guys have nothing to compare it to, I am sure it is still pretty darn good.[/QUOTE]

New to this areas for mongering (usually go to Asia) but going to be able to get away for a week the last of May. Need some input from some of you BMs as to best place to go in PR. Been around for a few years and like them tiny.

TIA for any info.

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2009615]Where best in PR

Need some input from some of you BMs as to best place to go in PR. [/QUOTE]Then you had better post in the PR section.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2009843]Then you had better post in the PR section.[/QUOTE]Thanks new.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2009555]Yes, I think you are right. Consider this also, gringos in the Dominican Republic have not been a novelty since long before anyone reading this was born. It's not like the Colonial Zone was only frequented by Dominicans until the Internet era. I think more of the gringos in those days were from Europe than North America. The Dominican Republic, on the other hand, was a novelty for all of us at one time or another or even now in some cases. That is what wears off over time, the novelty of the Dominican Republic to us.[/QUOTE]Sure on el conde and tourist areas. My first night in DR we stopped for beer at a colmado on charles de gaulle. I was in mid 30's and every single waitress was flirting heavily with me. Pulling my hair, smiling, saying hola shyly. This was a small colmado with chairs on the street. I am sure they were 18-22 but being new to DR they looked YOUNG. One girl was in the bathroom when we were leaving and she literally ran out to see the gringo after the rest of the chicas told her. I was always more into off the beaten path. In villa juana, villa mella, villa consuelo, gringos were still a novelty in those days. I am sure not as much as 10-15 years before I got here, but waaaaay more than now. If I went to a similar colmado now, the girls would barely look up from fey and WhatsApp. . . . . LOL. Partly because times have changed and partly because I am 20 years older. . . LOL.

[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2011242]If I went to a similar colmado now, the girls would barely look up from fey and WhatsApp. . . . . LOL. Partly because times have changed. . . LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes, they have! Times have changed and all anyone needs to do is to change with them. I can summon girls with just one finger using whatsapp, tender and facebook. And that's just the social media that I use.

Can somebody tell me again. What exactly did I miss? Because from my perspective (even given my lack of decades of historical knowledge) things still look pretty good. Maybe that's just because I'm looking at it this morning from my balcony with an ocean view? Or because a smoking hot twenty something left my bed early this morning because she has a university exam?

I used to monger in Santo Domingo as often as I could. This was from about 1995 to 2006 or so. Things changed for the worse for me, and it wasn't mostly the attitudes of the chicas.

I started noticing how the electricity would go out more frequently and for longer periods of time. The hotels I stayed at were constantly running their (loud) generators. Prices rose a huge amount after the peso fell in value so much. A lot of restaurants serving local food had good food at reasonable prices. That disappeared. There seemed to be only chain restaurants serving mediocre food at sky high prices. Little seemed to be worth it anymore.

Then there was the crime. I started being warned more often about robbers and muggers late at night. I sensed a higher degree of anxiety in the locals about crime. The case in point that was the final draw for me were the taxi drivers. They were terrified of driving. Some explained to me that there was a racket on the highway to the airport from SD. Robbers would ambush taxis by putting construction material in the road as if work was being done to force them to slow down. The the robber would jump the taxi and robber the driver and the passengers (usually tourists). My last taxi driver showed me his HUGE gun that he kept on him when working. I don't need to get caught in any cross-fire between robbers and my taxi driver.

I remember good times in SD. Lapsus had many sexy chicas doing sexy strip shows. I din't know what the current president, Danilo Medina, has been able to do or is doing. If it hasn't changed dramatically from the crap Lionel Fernandez had to clean up after Meija, then I doubt I will see much of DR for some time.

[QUOTE=George90;2012210]I used to monger in Santo Domingo as often as I could. This was from about 1995 to 2006 or so. Things changed for the worse for me, and it wasn't mostly the attitudes of the chicas.

I started noticing how the electricity would go out more frequently and for longer periods of time. The hotels I stayed at were constantly running their (loud) generators. Prices rose a huge amount after the peso fell in value so much. A lot of restaurants serving local food had good food at reasonable prices. That disappeared. There seemed to be only chain restaurants serving mediocre food at sky high prices. Little seemed to be worth it anymore.

Then there was the crime. I started being warned more often about robbers and muggers late at night. I sensed a higher degree of anxiety in the locals about crime. The case in point that was the final draw for me were the taxi drivers. They were terrified of driving. Some explained to me that there was a racket on the highway to the airport from SD. Robbers would ambush taxis by putting construction material in the road as if work was being done to force them to slow down. The the robber would jump the taxi and robber the driver and the passengers (usually tourists). My last taxi driver showed me his HUGE gun that he kept on him when working. I don't need to get caught in any cross-fire between robbers and my taxi driver.

I remember good times in SD. Lapsus had many sexy chicas doing sexy strip shows. I din't know what the current president, Danilo Medina, has been able to do or is doing. If it hasn't changed dramatically from the crap Lionel Fernandez had to clean up after Meija, then I doubt I will see much of DR for some time.[/QUOTE]Back in the day the DR was a transit point for drugs. Back in late 90's it was rare to find anyone that messed with even weed. In fact a famous boca chica bar owner who was very connected was told he could basically almost kill someone and he would be out in hours but if found with a joint, he was on his own. Then the local DR drug smugglers started getting paid in drugs rather than cash. Around the same time the shift from bachata, merengue and topic to rap, reggae ton and dembow also started. Chicas that had a crap be&W flip phone wanted the latest and greatest. Everyone wanted more bling. Back in the day almost everyone they knew were poor. Now they had drug dealers, musical artists and hos flashing bling.

Now, the barrio culture has changed to more of an instant gratification model as has most of the world. I remember back then a tour bus on north coast was robbed. The min of tourism ran up and cut checks to all the victims and within days 2 suspects were dead and one arrested. The idea of crime against tourists was crazy. If word got out tourism would suffer. Not any more. The tigres and thugs do not care. That way of life is even glorified. Some barrio loser is out on a moto to rob people of cell phones while his cuero is at a casa earning him money. Nothing new. Has happened all over for many years, but way more common than back in late 90's and early 2000's.

The good news is on average the chicas have better clothes, smart phones and more frequent salon visits. Bad news is someone is paying for all of that.

I have been to pretty much all the barrios over the years minus capotillo. I did go to simon bolivar twice and cristo rey a bunch of times. Ask a taxi driver to take you there now.

I had not been to la mansion in maybe 10 years and assumed they closed down. They did. The most recent owners who had it for 8 years reopened as "solo bar". It is in a crappy neighborhood and not near anything else really besides ejecutivo, and not all that close. I stopped in for a beer but it was way early. Maybe 8 PM. Three venezuelans, one dominicana. The venezuelans were talking about heading home as their three months were up.

I didn't stay long but chatted with the owner. He said they get busy around 11 PM. I don't see myself going out that way that late but figured I'd post info for the more adventurous.

It is hard to find as well as not in great location. Off of carretera Mella east of mega centro. After banco leon / BHD make a left on calle cachon. Keep going straight until there is a colmado on the corner of calle 10-w. Go one more block and make a left on calle campo verde. Casa will be on left hand side.

The girl asking the phone was horrible with directions and descriptions. She said make a left at colmado. We did. Not even close. Then she said left at colmado on 10-w, also not correct. Finally she said left the block AFTER the colamdo on 10-W. She said purple house. House was not purple, but had purple awnings which is almost impossible to see at night.

The neighborhood is called "Lucerna". Mansion hasn't been a place for people from out of the neighborhood for a few years as you said.

[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2012266]I had not been to la mansion in maybe 10 years and assumed they closed down. They did. The most recent owners who had it for 8 years reopened as "solo bar". It is in a crappy neighborhood and not near anything else really besides ejecutivo, and not all that close. I stopped in for a beer but it was way early. Maybe 8 PM. Three venezuelans, one dominicana. The venezuelans were talking about heading home as their three months were up.

I didn't stay long but chatted with the owner. He said they get busy around 11 PM. I don't see myself going out that way that late but figured I'd post info for the more adventurous.

It is hard to find as well as not in great location. Off of carretera Mella east of mega centro. After banco leon / BHD make a left on calle cachon. Keep going straight until there is a colmado on the corner of calle 10-w. Go one more block and make a left on calle campo verde. Casa will be on left hand side.

The girl asking the phone was horrible with directions and descriptions. She said make a left at colmado. We did. Not even close. Then she said left at colmado on 10-w, also not correct. Finally she said left the block AFTER the colamdo on 10-W. She said purple house. House was not purple, but had purple awnings which is almost impossible to see at night.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2012262]Back in the day the DR was a transit point for drugs. [/QUOTE]It still is.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2012295]The neighborhood is called "Lucerna". Mansion hasn't been a place for people from out of the neighborhood for a few years as you said.[/QUOTE]Like I said, have not been in maybe 10 years. They say it is in Vista Hermosa. Though I don't see any beautiful views there. It is a bit east of where the chinese place to turn off for the old location was. The original mansion was ok. Hmmm. . . I just remembered a few more places on that side of the bridges. Sutra which was a strip club on san isidro owned by venezuelans. Then cafe 47 in isabelita down the block from hotel acuario. There was another place further inside isabelita or maybe las mameyas that was supposedly owned by the GF of the owner of Sutra.

Not sure if I mentioned Solteros on las americas. Sleazy strip club where I once saw a chica squat on a beer bottle, pick it up with her pussy and then walk down the bar and back. Squatting again to drop it off in front of the guy she borrowed it from. I cringed when he grabbed it and continued drinking. Check please!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2012298]It still is.[/QUOTE]Right but now drugs also stay in DR. Back in late 90's nobody could afford them. Once the cartels started paying in drugs vs cash. . . . things tumbled downhill, and fast.

[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2012394]..............Not sure if I mentioned Solteros on las americas. Sleazy strip club where I once saw a chica squat on a beer bottle, pick it up with her pussy and then walk down the bar and back. Squatting again to drop it off in front of the guy she borrowed it from. I cringed when he grabbed it and continued drinking. Check please![/QUOTE]Too funny, thanks for dropping in and bringing back some good memories. Life goes on but always great to bump into someone you can say. Remember when, laugh about it and keep moving on.

I arrived to Santo Domingo 3 hours ago. Flight from Puerto Rico was $175.00. Currency exchange was 47.35 at the airport. I am at hotel Riazor, $70 per night with breakfast, penthouse level. Reports coming soon.

I am looking forward to your reports Boricua. They are always entertaining and informative. Was your $175 fare round trip or one way? I noticed a few months ago that American Airlines has a code share with a LIAT like regional for flights between San Juan and Santo Domingo. That could help keep Jet Blue fares down.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2013497]I arrived to Santo Domingo 3 hours ago. Flight from Puerto Rico was $175.00. Currency exchange was 47.35 at the airport. I am at hotel Riazor, $70 per night with breakfast, penthouse level. Reports coming soon.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2013497]I arrived to Santo Domingo 3 hours ago. Flight from Puerto Rico was $175.00. Currency exchange was 47.35 at the airport. I am at hotel Riazor, $70 per night with breakfast, penthouse level. Reports coming soon.[/QUOTE]What was the name of the Currency exchange place at the airport?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2013530]I am looking forward to your reports Boricua. They are always entertaining and informative. Was your $175 fare round trip or one way? I noticed a few months ago that American Airlines has a code share with a LIAT like regional for flights between San Juan and Santo Domingo. That could help keep Jet Blue fares down.[/QUOTE]175 round trip. The ferry from San Juan to Santo Domingo begins operations on May 3 so airfare is expected to go down.

[QUOTE=CooleMr;2013552]What was the name of the Currency exchange place at the airport?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Ban Reservas.

Anyone in town? I arrive on Tuesday just for a couple of days (and nights!) Maybe I will see some of you guys around the Sheraton.

Reports to follow.

Here I am waiting for a girl in Hotel Riazor. I got room 605, penthouse level. They gave me a two room bed for the cost of a single because there was not other room available at check in time. I checked in early, at 11:45 am Cost of room is $65 withouth breakfast or $70 with breakfast. Room is clean and nice, good wifi connection, ice cold air conditioner, good water presure, plenty of hot water. You can order 24 hours from restaurant Manolos. Breakfast is very basic, mangu with your choice of eggs, sausage, ham, or frech toast, scrambled eggs, juice, coffee and water with bread toasts. Their guest policy is a sigle visitor with proper I. The. , this is not a place for threesomes. Later.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2013819]Here I am waiting for a girl in Hotel Riazor. I got room 605, penthouse level. They gave me a two room bed for the cost of a single because there was not other room available at check in time. I checked in early, at 11:45 am Cost of room is $65 withouth breakfast or $70 with breakfast. Room is clean and nice, good wifi connection, ice cold air conditioner, good water presure, plenty of hot water. You can order 24 hours from restaurant Manolos. Breakfast is very basic, mangu with your choice of eggs, sausage, ham, or frech toast, scrambled eggs, juice, coffee and water with bread toasts. Their guest policy is a sigle visitor with proper I. The. , this is not a place for threesomes. Later.[/QUOTE]Last times I stayed at this hotel I was on the second floor. Overall the place is pretty nice and you can't beat their guest policy.

To buy Levitra? Any suggestions? Typical cost?

So, I visited the area of Lapis and found most of the clubs are closed and for sale. But met up with Yarri or something. You will know her by the half finger on her right hand. Usual fee, went back to my hotel and started with a massage. She seemed to like using the ice cold moisturizer. On to the main event and didn't want too much nipple play, started CBJ and quickly mounted me for CG and then she shook her ass for K9. I slowed things down and went back to mish and FIV. After a while I exploded into my magnum and continued to pump. She was in a rush and I wasn't. She asked me how I like the pussy and was hurt when I replied it was just OK. She seemed to like my volume of leche. Begged me for a tip and I told her to leave. With the current exchange rate, they can afford to pay her more.

Would I repeat. No.

Taxi driver took me to a place on the main drag George Washington on the opposite side of the obelisk (away from the CP). A rat hole with upstairs bar and a huge bouncer at the door. 4 k was the rate. Met Flora, 5 foot 90 pounds, some baby damage and an inverted nipple on the left. We got back in the cab and to my hotel. She showered and somehow spotted my camera (hidden) and rotated it 180 degrees. The fun started with me FIV until she came or faked it. CBJ, then CG and finally I busted after prolonged mish. Overall it was fun and she was hot. She was pretty cool with the camera.

[QUOTE=RedNose1;2016156]She was pretty cool with the camera.[/QUOTE]Cam not convert? I been looking for a good spy cam for mammories, eh, memories.

Nice work, she's got a big ass.

[QUOTE=RedNose1;2016119]So, I visited the area of Lapis and found most of the clubs are closed and for sale. But met up with Yarri or something. You will know her by the half finger on her right hand. Usual fee, went back to my hotel and started with a massage. She seemed to like using the ice cold moisturizer. On to the main event and didn't want too much nipple play, started CBJ and quickly mounted me for CG and then she shook her ass for K9. I slowed things down and went back to mish and FIV. After a while I exploded into my magnum and continued to pump. She was in a rush and I wasn't. She asked me how I like the pussy and was hurt when I replied it was just OK. She seemed to like my volume of leche. Begged me for a tip and I told her to leave. With the current exchange rate, they can afford to pay her more.

Would I repeat. No.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2016308]Cam not convert? I been looking for a good spy cam for mammories, eh, memories.[/QUOTE]Polaroid Cube that I built into compact speaker housing, overall the lens looks like a tweeter dome. It's a great camera since you can set to record and it will stay recording for hours. I use it with a wall USB plug so there is no worries on battery life. I should have said 180 degrees around so the camera was facing the window.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2016326]Nice work, she's got a big ass.[/QUOTE]Not too big by DR standards. The second night had an ass the size of a grapefruit!

As already reported I visited Santo Domingo last weekend and my stay was at Hotel Riazor. $70 with breakfast. In room wifi worked ok. I bought a smartphone on Amazon, an unblocked Samsung J1 for $59 but I never used it. My iphone with T-Mobile worked great all around the city with LTE and sometimes 3 G connectivity. My cab driver Ariel picked me at the airport, I got an early check in at 11:45 am. My room was at top level floor 6, they were perfectly nice, clean and functional. The room has sea view thru a small window. Air conditioner was perfect, coldest ever in my life. I had my lunch at Villar Hermanos, also I bought water, drinks and bakery goods for the room. I went to the money exchange house in Dr. Delgado street in front of Pizza Hut but was not seduced by the 47 pesos per follar rate. I went to the small plaza were Pizza Hut is and walked around. On a corner there is a hair style salon with the name of El Cisne. I just walked around and the guy inside was with a client but went outside to invite me to take a massage with a pretty girl. I do not ask but it is for sure a place with happy endings. It is just two blocks north of Hostal San Francisco de Asis on Pasteur. If someone chave more info please share.

I was writing the second part of my story and Google shut down when I was sending it, later guys.

[QUOTE=RedNose1;2016729]Polaroid Cube that I built into compact speaker housing, overall the lens looks like a tweeter dome. It's a great camera since you can set to record and it will stay recording for hours. I use it with a wall USB plug so there is no worries on battery life. I should have said 180 degrees around so the camera was facing the window.[/QUOTE]You can get yourself in big trouble with your camera.

What kind of trouble?

[QUOTE=Nordico;2017183]You can get yourself in big trouble with your camera.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2017254]What kind of trouble?[/QUOTE]Chica - spots cam - get Dollar bills in her eyes - wants more cash - refuse more cash - chica Claim to call Police - chica call Police- Police come - shake down - Policia AND Chica want big time Propina- No Propina = Policia threat with La Victoria- and so on.

Guess kinda Trouble like this is meant.

Mi opinion is. If a chica doesn't want to get filmed she is not worth to get filmed. Theres alot chics on the Ground that have no probs with that, will do if you share a copy with them or if you give them a Propina.

This Country is loco. You can run over a haitian Farm Worker with your car after 2 Bottles of Ron and Nobody Cares. But about sex. Everything more than P4 P seems to be a bit Greyzone. .

If girl is over 18 I'm not sure there is an issue.

[QUOTE=RocheBrazi;2017285]Chica - spots cam - get Dollar bills in her eyes - wants more cash - refuse more cash - chica Claim to call Police - chica call Police- Police come - shake down - Policia AND Chica want big time Propina- No Propina = Policia threat with La Victoria- and so on.

Guess kinda Trouble like this is meant.

Mi opinion is. If a chica doesn't want to get filmed she is not worth to get filmed. Theres alot chics on the Ground that have no probs with that, will do if you share a copy with them or if you give them a Propina.

This Country is loco. You can run over a haitian Farm Worker with your car after 2 Bottles of Ron and Nobody Cares. But about sex. Everything more than P4 P seems to be a bit Greyzone. .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RocheBrazi;2017285]Chica - spots cam - get Dollar bills in her eyes - wants more cash - refuse more cash - chica Claim to call Police - chica call Police- Police come - shake down - Policia AND Chica want big time Propina- No Propina = Policia threat with La Victoria- and so on.

Guess kinda Trouble like this is meant.

Mi opinion is. If a chica doesn't want to get filmed she is not worth to get filmed. Theres alot chics on the Ground that have no probs with that, will do if you share a copy with them or if you give them a Propina.

This Country is loco. You can run over a haitian Farm Worker with your car after 2 Bottles of Ron and Nobody Cares. But about sex. Everything more than P4 P seems to be a bit Greyzone. .[/QUOTE]In February I was riding with my female friend on a motoconcho, when two gringos took photos of us. The girl stopped the motoconcho and went to these guys and demanded to see and erase the photos or she would call the police. And she meant it. I don't know the law in DR, but in my country you can take photos of anyone in the street, but taking photos with a hidden camera, even if it is your place, means prison. The Dominican police would love to shake you down, even if it was legal (don't know). Then there are the cousins and boyfriends, who can get physical.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2017308]I don't know the law in DR, but in my country you can take photos of anyone in the street, but taking photos with a hidden camera, even if it is your place, means prison. The Dominican police would love to shake you down, even if it was legal (don't know).[/QUOTE]A couple of months a guy in a fb group that I am in was talking about how corrupt the Dominican police are. He rented a car and had some chick driving. The police pulled them over and the chick did not have a license and they got shaken down. I was like a deer in headlights. No way you can talk about how corrupt the cops are when you get caught doing something you are not supposed to be doing. The reason I can get off when they try their BS is because I know and they know that I have not done anything. But if you get caught dirty then you lose the right to complain.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2017362]A couple of months a guy in a fb group that I am in was talking about how corrupt the Dominican police are. He rented a car and had some chick driving. The police pulled them over and the chick did not have a license and they got shaken down. I was like a deer in headlights. No way you can talk about how corrupt the cops are when you get caught doing something you are not supposed to be doing. The reason I can get off when they try their BS is because I know and they know that I have not done anything. But if you get caught dirty then you lose the right to complain.[/QUOTE]You might potentially run into problems for illegally recording pornography with intent to publish without the consent of the particpant, and such like, if someone wanted to make life hard for you. In Sosua, as I recall, it is theoretically illegal to make street video recordings because it is close to a Dominincan Air Force base at LOS Cangrejos, and therefore an area of military sensitivity. Go figure. Whether anything similar is in effect in Santo Domingo, I don't know. Anyway, regarding of actual legalities, it is pretty difficult to explain yourself taking photographs of sex with hidden cameras with intent to publish if you were confronted by a law enforcement agency, regardless of where in the world it occurred.

I almost dropped my computer when I read the bit about the guy letting an unlicensed Dominican girl drive his rental car. She must be incredibly good in bed to get the guy that confused. Doing that is borderline suicidal. I feel the same way about riding around on motoconchos, with or without girls in tow. It's incredibly dangerous. Good luck to those who engage in this kind of behavior.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2017362]A couple of months a guy in a fb group that I am in was talking about how corrupt the Dominican police are. He rented a car and had some chick driving. The police pulled them over and the chick did not have a license and they got shaken down. I was like a deer in headlights. No way you can talk about how corrupt the cops are when you get caught doing something you are not supposed to be doing. The reason I can get off when they try their BS is because I know and they know that I have not done anything. But if you get caught dirty then you lose the right to complain.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Frannie;2017523]You might potentially run into problems for illegally recording pornography with intent to publish without the consent of the particpant,[/QUOTE]Might? Come on. Tell me any place on this planet where it is allowed to secretly record anyone having having sex without their knowledge, even if it was not with the intent to publish. Dominican hookers are crazy as is. Adding shit like that to the mix is a recipe for disaster.

Has anyone had problems bringing multiple chicas into AIRBNB in Sto Domingo? I can't book a suite at the Palacio where I usually stay (I have stayed there at least 30 times in my life). I have at least 4 girls lined up for 3 days (and that number is likely to double). I hate dealing with security types who look at the cedulas like they are all fraudulently manufactured (Palacio is pretty cool, unless the chica has no cedula. She could be 30 years old, have an American driving license and they will give her a hard time as long as she is DOminican. This actually happened to me with my old 36 dd-24-36 GF from the states before she saw the light and married a green card, LOL).

ps. completely agree with Mr E below. You can't legally film home porn anywhere in the world without permission from all parties.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2017566]Might? Come on. Tell me any place on this planet where it is allowed to secretly record anyone having having sex without their knowledge, even if it was not with the intent to publish. Dominican hookers are crazy as is. Adding shit like that to the mix is a recipe for disaster.[/QUOTE]She must have suspected something, so instead of making a big deal about it, she turned it away from the bed and it was then pointing at the wall. I caught on right away and didn't make any effort to move it back as that would have confirmed it as a camera although it was playing music which is omni-directional. I do believe the chicas are more alert for these cameras as they like to adjust the lights way down if you let them. Of course the alternative is to play during the day as the ambient light levels are high enough even for a cheap ebay camera.

Trust me, for this one's skills you could have used a still camera.

On the usual note, I did use several UBER cars and they were excellent for getting around. (I just wanted to get the string back on topic.).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2017566]Might? Come on. Tell me any place on this planet where it is allowed to secretly record anyone having having sex without their knowledge, even if it was not with the intent to publish. Dominican hookers are crazy as is. Adding shit like that to the mix is a recipe for disaster.[/QUOTE]I don't know. There are probably places where there is no specific statute that addresses the matter, but what I am saying is that if there is a dispute with a chica and law enforcement gets dragged into it, you cannot expect anyone to be showing a lot of sympathy for the guy with the hidden camera, so on that basis it is high risk behavior even if you judge that the probability of running into trouble is low.

I wouldn't do it.

[QUOTE=Frannie;2017909]I don't know. There are probably places where there is no specific statute that addresses the matter, but what I am saying is that if there is a dispute with a chica and law enforcement gets dragged into it, you cannot expect anyone to be showing a lot of sympathy for the guy with the hidden camera, so on that basis it is high risk behavior even if you judge that the probability of running into trouble is low.[/QUOTE]

Day 4 of 8 and I am 3 for 4 including my three main squeezes. Teresa 42 ddd my caramel chica has developed an interest in filming herself suck my dick with her camera. Really a turn on. Stefany 44 ddd my dark choco chica doesn't like to video except the money shot. She was on her period so she told me to fuck her in the ass so I did. Barbara 36 ddd Venezuela vanilla chica spent the night with me and rocked my world with her lactating chi chis. All three will be repeated later in the week when I move from hotel maison gartreaux to napolitano hote. Fourth chica, another venezola, had dinner with me but a sick aunt prevented tln or any sexo so needless to say she does not get a roster spot. More tryouts today, tomorrow and the next day. What a great way to spend spring break!

Part 2 of 2. I wound up doing repeats with my three main squeezes and had four new tryouts none of which get a roster spot but thanks for the effort, girls. Went to Don Julio beach with my Canadian buddy. We got soused on wine and some good smoke. Also there is beach masseuse there who has magic hands (no happy endings) but superior soothing skills. Well worth the 700 P for an hour. Probably the best non-sexy massage of my life. Back to the sexy caliente chicas. I always treat my regulars to a nice bra (from Nordstrom's Rack. Pun intended) in their size because they have trouble finding nice DDDs in their size in the DDDR. This time I also gave them a copy of my self-produced music CD of romantic (cover) lovesongs. The covers included Michael Jackson, Bread, Beatles, Everly Brothers, Sinatra, Billy Joel, and Michael Franks. The subsequent lovemaking was exceptionally rewarding! I'll be going back to SD again next month (May 7 -15) and this time up to Santiago, too. Call me love sick in Pecholand / the santo domingo gringo.

[QUOTE=DCups;2017976]Day 4 of 8 and I am 3 for 4 including my three main squeezes. Teresa 42 ddd my caramel chica has developed an interest in filming herself suck my dick with her camera. Really a turn on. Stefany 44 ddd my dark choco chica doesn't like to video except the money shot. She was on her period so she told me to fuck her in the ass so I did. Barbara 36 ddd Venezuela vanilla chica spent the night with me and rocked my world with her lactating chi chis. All three will be repeated later in the week when I move from hotel maison gartreaux to napolitano hote. Fourth chica, another venezola, had dinner with me but a sick aunt prevented tln or any sexo so needless to say she does not get a roster spot. More tryouts today, tomorrow and the next day. What a great way to spend spring break![/QUOTE].

Despite my efforts I have not found any farmacias in DR that sell these at a reasonable price. So I go to Tijuana for them.

[QUOTE=RedNose1;2014393]To buy Levitra? Any suggestions? Typical cost?[/QUOTE].

I love hearing from the only guy who loves the DR more then me. I will be in SD on the may 22nd. I am finding that my regulars provide better service and fun then the sport fucking. Nevertheless I keep including a few days in my trips. I like the food and environment in Sosua as much as the sex. Keep the reports coming.

[QUOTE=DCups;2020661]Despite my efforts I have not found any farmacias in DR that sell these at a reasonable price. So I go to Tijuana for them..[/QUOTE]

Thanks Old Kool. One of these times our schedules will coincide and we can compare notes over some presidentes! I'm trying out a new hotel, Portes 9, in norte Calle Conde May 8 -15 but will also go up to Santiago for a night to see a new DDD chica there at Bora Bora cabana hotel. Aye yi yi the hits keep on comin!

[QUOTE=OldKool;2020672]I love hearing from the only guy who loves the DR more then me. I will be in SD on the may 22nd. I am finding that my regulars provide better service and fun then the sport fucking. Never the less I keep including a few days in my trips. I like the food and environment in Sosua as much as the sex. Keep the reports coming.[/QUOTE]

Are my eyes deceiving me this place is $35 a night and includes breakfast and has a great rating. Let us know what the quest policy is it chica friendly. Winner Winner chicken dinner.

[QUOTE=DCups;2020737]Thanks Old Kool. One of these times our schedules will coincide and we can compare notes over some presidentes! I'm trying out a new hotel, Portes 9, in norte Calle Conde May 8 -15 but will also go up to Santiago for a night to see a new DDD chica there at Bora Bora cabana hotel. Aye yi yi the hits keep on comin!.[/QUOTE]

It is a good location on the edge of Ciudad Nueva, walkable to the Conde and the Malecon. Girl friendliness is the key question. My guess is the German owner will be OK with it as long as it is within reason (keep it legal, avoid provocatively dressed street girls, don't make a spectacle or a ruckus). I saw a daily rate of $53 on a booking site but maybe $35 is available for a smaller room? If you have a car you have to choose your parking place carefully. The surrounding streets are very peaceful day and night but that makes it easier for people to steal parts from cars or the whole damn car.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2020904]Are my eyes decieving me this palce is $35 a night and includes breakfast and has a great rating. Let us know what the quest policy is it chica friendly. , Winner Winner chicken dinner.[/QUOTE]

Oh I would not stay there if not guest friendly, OK.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2020904]Are my eyes decieving me this palce is $35 a night and includes breakfast and has a great rating. Let us know what the quest policy is it chica friendly. , Winner Winner chicken dinner.[/QUOTE]

Let us know how you make out.

[QUOTE=DCups;2021082]Oh I would not stay there if not guest friendly, OK..[/QUOTE]

So since I was in Santiago I figured ID come down to SD and see my girls off Cupid.

DR in general so far has been interesting, loud, hectic and tropical. Mind you I haven't been able to hit beach areas and weather here will be garbage till I leave Thursday.

Girls here seem much more desperate than in Brazil-my only comparison.

Full of hustle LOL.

I have a girl in Francisco De macoris who came to Santiago to see me and gave me nice BBFS. 1st gringo for her.

In SD I'm in Bella Vista so hit Executivos last night as a girl cancelled who was going to come-same girl came first in SD.

Executivos had 20 girls and 2 guys when I came. I was immediately surrounded by 10 girls plus-was like Centaurus in Rio. Like flies on shit! LOL.

I was drunk when I came but picked a very hot negra Rosa w a gap between her front teeth.

Ass and tits tremendous.

Very Good BBBJ (wanted propina after) good sex in many positions. Good kisser.

4000. Was a last minute drunk decision to go as its 10 minutes from hotel.

Room was nice too.

Overall was bit expensive but girls were good quality level Friday.

Another girl was coming from Higuey today but gone awol so I'm going to see the rapper girl.

They all need money for something! LOL.

Might go to Macoris for 2 days before I leave and stay in Cabana w the cinnamon skinned sexy lips girl whose tits defy gravity.

Not sure I would come back but maybe if weather was better and I could take in other parts I might.

Abracos.

Cupid girls work but are not always reliable. I bait the hook by buying a gift that they want. So they are anxious to get their gift. Perfumes, cheap smart phone and even tennis shoes works wonders for getting them where you want on time. I always have a plan be because with DR chicas you need it.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2025968]So since I was in Santiago I figured ID come down to SD and see my girls off Cupid.

DR in general so far has been interesting, loud, hectic and tropical. Mind you I haven't been able to hit beach areas and weather here will be garbage till I leave Thursday.

Girls here seem much more desperate than in Brazil-my only comparison.

Full of hustle LOL.

I have a girl in Francisco De macoris who came to Santiago to see me and gave me nice BBFS. 1st gringo for her.

In SD I'm in Bella Vista so hit Executivos last night as a girl cancelled who was going to come-same girl came first in SD.

Executivos had 20 girls and 2 guys when I came. I was immediately surrounded by 10 girls plus-was like Centaurus in Rio. Like flies on shit! LOL.

I was drunk when I came but picked a very hot negra Rosa w a gap between her front teeth.

Ass and tits tremendous.

Very Good BBBJ (wanted propina after) good sex in many positions. Good kisser.

4000. Was a last minute drunk decision to go as its 10 minutes from hotel.

Room was nice too.

Overall was bit expensive but girls were good quality level Friday.

Another girl was coming from Higuey today but gone awol so I'm going to see the rapper girl.

They all need money for something! LOL.

Might go to Macoris for 2 days before I leave and stay in Cabana w the cinnamon skinned sexy lips girl whose tits defy gravity.

Not sure I would come back but maybe if weather was better and I could take in other parts I might.

Abracos.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2025968]So since I was in Santiago I figured ID come down to SD and see my girls off Cupid.

DR in general so far has been interesting, loud, hectic and tropical. Mind you I haven't been able to hit beach areas and weather here will be garbage till I leave Thursday.

Girls here seem much more desperate than in Brazil-my only comparison.

Full of hustle LOL.

I have a girl in Francisco De macoris who came to Santiago to see me and gave me nice BBFS. 1st gringo for her.

In SD I'm in Bella Vista so hit Executivos last night as a girl cancelled who was going to come-same girl came first in SD.

Executivos had 20 girls and 2 guys when I came. I was immediately surrounded by 10 girls plus-was like Centaurus in Rio. Like flies on shit! LOL.

I was drunk when I came but picked a very hot negra Rosa w a gap between her front teeth.

Ass and tits tremendous..[/QUOTE]Good stuff brother! Glad to see you outside of the Brazil boards!

Where can I find a good selection of Venezuelans at reasonable prices (I. E. Not at All Inclusive places) in Santo Domingo?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=OldKool;2025981]Cupid girls work but are not always reliable. I bait the hook by buying a gift that they want. So they are anxious to get their gift. Perfumes, cheap smart phone and even tennis shoes works wonders for getting them where you want on time. I always have a plan be because with DR chicas you need it.[/QUOTE]You are so right-I'm quickly finding this out.

Vibe here is very different-everyone who isn't a puta seems a semi pro.

Kinda off putting but to be expected given the level of poverty here I guess.

Get them a nice bra like I do. They have trouble finding good DDD bras and it is treat to see those unhinged jajajajjajaja

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2026024]You are so right-I'm quickly finding this out.

Vibe here is very different-everyone who isn't a puta seems a semi pro.

Kinda off putting but to be expected given the level of poverty here I guess.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2025968]Not sure I would come back but maybe if weather was better and I could take in other parts I might.[/QUOTE]Always great to see reports from someone new on the scene. Why don't you think you will go back to DR? Do you still think Dominicans rival Brazilians according to your taste?

It means almost every women you see you have a shot. I think tjis is an awesome feeling.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2026024]You are so right-I'm quickly finding this out.

Vibe here is very different-everyone who isn't a puta seems a semi pro.

Kinda off putting but to be expected given the level of poverty here I guess.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;2026136]It means almost every women you see you have a shot. I think tjis is an awesome feeling.[/QUOTE]This is true.

I think Dominicans are as beautiful as Brazilians but no match in the joi de vivre. Joy of life and personality department so far-even when both poor.

The puta in Executivo was fun and closest to it but all my non-pros have been like this.

A rapper I know whos pretty hot asks for money non-stop and hasnt given it up yet -got some front.

Weather isn't helping ATM as beaches are a waste.

Once I'm back in NYC ill reflect back.

Last night was pretty cool and comical.

Cute negra with gravity defying 20 year old titties came from Pedro do Macoris with her aunt-came to the hotel-ate food-aunt went home-girl came to room and fucked me v good in the jacuzzi.

3 more times untill this afternoon went we went to eat in zona colonial (local spots are the best imo) and I sent her home on bus.

She was pretty good in bed-animated but muted outside.

Not much BJ though.

Prefers Americans to dominican guys who are wife beaters and cheats she said.

Never gave her money except a bit for journey upfront/salon

she just hit me for 5000 pesos urgente.....eeeh no.

Go find another gringo.

Tomorrow off to Francisco de macoris and my GF then home.

Unless some miracle happens will prob be my last but has been interesting.

One major positive has been discovering that my fluent portuguese is making my spanish impove very quickly-i can more or less communicate with everyone so thanks DR-and the music is fun.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2026538]Prefers Americans to dominican guys who are wife beaters and cheats she said. Never gave her money except a bit for journey upfront/salon
she just hit me for 5000 pesos urgente.....eeeh no.Go find another gringo.[/QUOTE]So "Fuck for food" seems to be the modus operandi or did she do it for LOVE as she does not like the wife beating locals? Pathetic!

I guess you have no intent of hooking up again, I always give the girls who come see some cash or gifst. I realize if that if I had to go chase pussy in the streets or casas it would cost and generally not be as good. I also try to maintain relationships for future trips. I think the girl who put the time with you 4 pops should have been broke at least 5 k pesos. I assume the girls who are coming are economically challenged "poor". By breaking them off a few dollars helps makes them more willing to satisfy you.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2026538]This is true.

I think Dominicans are as beautiful as Brazilians but no match in the joi de vivre. Joy of life and personality department so far-even when both poor.

The puta in Executivo was fun and closest to it but all my non-pros have been like this.

A rapper I know whos pretty hot asks for money non-stop and hasnt given it up yet -got some front.

Weather isn't helping ATM as beaches are a waste.

Once I'm back in NYC ill reflect back.

Last night was pretty cool and comical.

Cute negra with gravity defying 20 year old titties came from Pedro do Macoris with her aunt-came to the hotel-ate food-aunt went home-girl came to room and fucked me v good in the jacuzzi.

3 more times untill this afternoon went we went to eat in zona colonial (local spots are the best imo) and I sent her home on bus.

She was pretty good in bed-animated but muted outside.

Not much BJ though.

Prefers Americans to dominican guys who are wife beaters and cheats she said.

Never gave her money except a bit for journey upfront/salon

she just hit me for 5000 pesos urgente.....eeeh no.

Go find another gringo.

Tomorrow off to Francisco de macoris and my GF then home.

Unless some miracle happens will prob be my last but has been interesting.

One major positive has been discovering that my fluent portuguese is making my spanish impove very quickly-i can more or less communicate with everyone so thanks DR-and the music is fun.[/QUOTE]

Spot on, Mr. Kool. I pay for performance. My #1 squeeze gets 4 K; #2's 2 and 3 get 3 K; all others 2 K. Plus a nice bra from Nordstrom's rack and / or dinner or movie. I love these chicks and they love me right back. Cheaper and more fun than an American woman anytime anywhere.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2026575]So "Fuck for food" seems to be the modus operandi or did she do it for LOVE as she does not like the wife beating locals? Pathetic![/QUOTE]I guess it is all a matter of perspective. I think it is pathetic that she would ask him for 5000 pesos after she got back home. If you are doing it for money then it is best to say so up front. (Have any mongers on this board ever given a chick in DR 5000 pesos?) And as he said, he did send her money before she even came, which was I am sure more than it cost to get her hair done and to get there. Don't know how much he sent, but the amount that I have heard chicks try to get guys for before they come is $100.

Maybe this lady had a little pride. She felt bad about asking for money like a puta. She thought she was fucking a gentleman who not shame her by making her ask for money. I think my man got 9 k of good service.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2026947]I guess it is all a matter of perspective. I think it is pathetic that she would ask him for 5000 pesos after she got back home. If you are doing it for money then it is best to say so up front. (Have any mongers on this board ever given a chick in DR 5000 pesos?) And as he said, he did send her money before she even came, which was I am sure more than it cost to get her hair done and to get there. Don't know how much he sent, but the amount that I have heard chicks try to get guys for before they come is $100.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;2026956]Maybe this lady had a little pride. She felt bad about asking for money like a puta. She thought she was fucking a gentleman who not shame her by making her ask for money. I think my man got 9 k of good service.[/QUOTE]Once again, when you decide to become a hooker all of that pride shit has to go out the window. Pride does not get you paid. When you showed up to your new job the first day did you not do so knowing how much you would be paid? Or did you just show up hoping your boss would be a gentleman and give you enough to live on?

And why is the onus on him? If she thought she was fucking a gentleman who would not shame her by making her ask for money, then he could have just as well thought that he was fucking a woman that would not shame him by revealing she was actually a hooker and he would need to pay her. Why are the women seen as poor little retarded people that must be catered to and looked out for while the men are treated as someone who should know better and must be the bearer of all of the responsibility?

So now we are up to 9000 pesos. When has anyone on this board ever given a Dominican 9000 pesos? That is more than 1 month's rent for most. And what about the aunt? She came and he probably paid for the meal that she ate in his nice hotel. She should have at least had the decency to offer up a hand job or something.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2026904]I guess you have no intent of hooking up again, I always give the girls who come see some cash or gifst. I realize if that if I had to go chase pussy in the streets or casas it would cost and generally not be as good. I also try to maintain relationships for future trips. I think the girl who put the time with you 4 pops should have been broke at least 5 k pesos. I assume the girls who are coming are economically challenged "poor". By breaking them off a few dollars helps makes them more willing to satisfy you.[/QUOTE]I agree completely and think FuckAfMedDig is lower than the slime at the bottom of a sewer, he is cheap and worthless. Just remember what goes around comes around. He is a total embarrassment to the hobby and his race. I am not talking skin color but the human race of which he is not part off.

I can not argue with you. He is going to make it very hard for the next guy. He is a slash and burn guy.

[QUOTE=Qualude;2027072]I agree completely and think FuckAfMedDig is lower than the slime at the bottom of a sewer, he is cheap and worthless. Just remember what goes around comes around. He is a total embarrassment to the hobby and his race. I am not talking skin color but the human race of which he is not part off.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;2026904]I guess you have no intent of hooking up again, I always give the girls who come see some cash or gifst. I realize if that if I had to go chase pussy in the streets or casas it would cost and generally not be as good. I also try to maintain relationships for future trips. I think the girl who put the time with you 4 pops should have been broke at least 5 k pesos. I assume the girls who are coming are economically challenged "poor". By breaking them off a few dollars helps makes them more willing to satisfy you.[/QUOTE]Negativo papi you got it wrong about me.

I gave her 2500 upfront, then I fed her and her aunt and let her aunt take tons of food back to her other daughter-paid for a cab for her aunt to go back to the bus.

I went out of my way to make sure they were good and aunt felt comfortable with me as thats why aunt came along-the girl didnt want to come alone.

The girl hit me off but not 4 pops-never said that. Fucked 4 times.

In the morning she got fed breakfast and lunch and I gave her 1000 at bus.

Then she hits me up for 5 k when she gets home. Didn't appreciate that.

I'm sorry but if that qualifies me as slime and scum of the earth I take it as opposed to be taken for a ride.

I treat girls how they treat me.

If she had let the food digest before hitting me I might had wanted to see her again.

I didnt have anything against her,I wanted her to come and intended on seeing her again but her attitude was also a bit impatient and sulky...

I can do better.

I'm in Francisco de macoris with my main girl, promised her my old iphone, come to find out it aint working so I buy her a near new iphone 5's.

Treat her like a queen as I do all my girls.

I have multiple waiting in Brazil and here now but I do find the girls here much less cool, much less fun and much less willing to please.

Just my limited experience. I could be wrong but it definetely isn't because I don't treat them right.

Cause in Rio and Brazil I get shown alot of love for no money at all and I don't have a problem spending on girls. I'm always buying food, drinks etc etc.

I'm also happy to get out of SD, the country side is beautiful and saved my trip in some ways-meeting a warm, loving family and get shown alot of love.

I left 2 girls hanging in SD cause of logisitics. One has no wifi, other is long.

I am flying home tomorrow.

I do agree they all seem like semi-pros.

The girl who came was not a puta but def someone who hooks up with and prefers gringos who i guess dont beat her like she said dominicanos do and have more money.

So shes a semi-pro.

The rapper who came over is talented and I promised to pay her wifi-2500 and her cab-3000 in total.

Her bbbj was great but she was upset i didnt come quick etc after 30 mins-

just symptomatic of the vibe I experienced here from the non-pros to the semis to the putas in Puteiros...tbh the girl in the Exeutivo was prob the best but wasnt as willing to please as im used to.

Girls are friendly here but I find it a much harsher vibe they have-maybe jaded than BR girls just as poor.

Maybe I just need to meet different ones in different parts -i did miss out on some of my non-pros in SD cause some were busy when I was free and vice versa-some cancelled last minute(seems to be alot more of that here)

Like OLDKool said have plan B and maybe C ready.

[QUOTE=Qualude;2027072]I agree completely and think FuckAfMedDig is lower than the slime at the bottom of a sewer, he is cheap and worthless. Just remember what goes around comes around. He is a total embarrassment to the hobby and his race. I am not talking skin color but the human race of which he is not part off.[/QUOTE]Hold your horses papi and read my detailed response to Oldkool.

You couldn't be more wrong.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2027544]Negativo papi you got it wrong about me.

I gave her 2500 upfront, then I fed her and her aunt and let her aunt take tons of food back to her other daughter-paid for a cab for her aunt to go back to the bus.

I went out of my way to make sure they were good and aunt felt comfortable with me as thats why aunt came along-the girl didnt want to come alone.

The girl hit me off but not 4 pops-never said that. Fucked 4 times.

In the morning she got fed breakfast and lunch and I gave her 1000 at bus.

Then she hits me up for 5 k when she gets home. Didn't appreciate that.

I'm sorry but if that qualifies me as slime and scum of the earth I take it as opposed to be taken for a ride.

I treat girls how they treat me.

If she had let the food digest before hitting me I might had wanted to see her again.

I didnt have anything against her,I wanted her to come and intended on seeing her again but her attitude was also a bit impatient and sulky...

I can do better.

I'm in Francisco de macoris with my main girl, promised her my old iphone, come to find out it aint working so I buy her a near new iphone 5's.

Treat her like a queen as I do all my girls.[/QUOTE]First of all you said you gave her no money, only a trifle upfront for the salon and the bus fare, and now you are subjecting yourself to a queen, giving her aunt a two-week supply of groceries for a family of 6, and having sex with her 4 times, only apparently you were not able to complete the act, as if that makes any difference from her point of view.

There is too much missing information to be able to form much of an opinion. Obviously there was not much chemistry between the two of you, but the real issue goes back to your interactions with her before you ever met. Apparently neither of you were particularly honest about what you wanted from each other. Lots of Dominican girls have overseas boyfriends who help support them, so she might have been looking for what some of her friends have, or claim to have. Who knows? These young women are mostly naive, ignorant, poorly educated, unrealistic, so hard to know what is really going on in their heads. Sounds like she was looking for a knight in shining armor, and you looking for someone to treat like a queen. Both of you missed your mark. Probably when she got home her family were irate and insisted that she request additional funds forthwith, notwithstanding that she got a couple of meals out of you.

Actually one of the differences between Brazilian women and Dominicanas, if your account is anything to go by, is that Brazilians are willing to accept food and drink as partial payment for sex, but in the DR food and drink does not really count for anything. I have never taken out high priced escorts in the US, but if one was taken to an expensive restaurant to dine, I doubt whether the cost of the meal would be deductible from the agency fee, but then again I could be wrong.

Mongering has slight differences depending on the location. Fran is right food is usually considered compensation with DR chicas. It is clear now that you covered more expenses then normal. I think there was miscommunication on both sides. 2 good days of sex with a nice chica is easily $200. However I understand he was use to mongering in Br. Doing DR semi pros is not the same as banging girls in Help. I think honest mistakes were made on both sides. I enjoyed the post and perspective. At the end of the day bro I think you got a bargain.

[QUOTE=Frannie;2027755]First of all you said you gave her no money, only a trifle upfront for the salon and the bus fare, and now you are subjecting yourself to a queen, giving her aunt a two-week supply of groceries for a family of 6, and having sex with her 4 times, only apparently you were not able to complete the act, as if that makes any difference from her point of view.

There is too much missing information to be able to form much of an opinion. Obviously there was not much chemistry between the two of you, but the real issue goes back to your interactions with her before you ever met. Apparently neither of you were particularly honest about what you wanted from each other. Lots of Dominican girls have overseas boyfriends who help support them, so she might have been looking for what some of her friends have, or claim to have. Who knows? These young women are mostly naive, ignorant, poorly educated, unrealistic, so hard to know what is really going on in their heads. Sounds like she was looking for a knight in shining armor, and you looking for someone to treat like a queen. Both of you missed your mark. Probably when she got home her family were irate and insisted that she request additional funds forthwith, notwithstanding that she got a couple of meals out of you.

Actually one of the differences between Brazilian women and Dominicanas, if your account is anything to go by, is that Brazilians are willing to accept food and drink as partial payment for sex, but in the DR food and drink does not really count for anything. I have never taken out high priced escorts in the US, but if one was taken to an expensive restaurant to dine, I doubt whether the cost of the meal would be deductible from the agency fee, but then again I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Frannie;2027755]First of all you said you gave her no money, only a trifle upfront for the salon and the bus fare,...

There is too much missing information to be able to form much of an opinion.[/QUOTE]There is too much missing info to be able to form an opinion, yet that does not seem to be stopping anyone from jumping to the rescue of our naive, ignorant, poorly educated, etc damsel. To me, when he said that he [B]sent[/B] her home on the bus implied that he gave her money to get home. Had he said that he sent her home in a limo, sent her home by airplane, or sent her home in an uber, the reader would not have had a second thought of who paid for her going home. This versus saying she [b]went[/b] home in a limo, airplane, or uber.

Albeit, IMHO is an irrelevant figure the amount she received to get there since she did not complain at the time. Or just maybe this poor uneducated chica can not even count and when she got home her aunt counted the money for her and told her that it was not sufficient, hence her hitting him up for 5000 pesos more. I will say that there is an apparent contradiction because the poster did state that he never gave her money except for upfront. But being used to these boards, I am aware of guys not counting the "taxi" money, or "grocery" money, or "buy the kid something" money as money given.

As I kind of figured, he did give her what I would call a significant amount up front. He gave her 2500 pesos and more than likely it was 400 to get her hair done (if she even used it for that) and 200 for the bus from San Pedro. So she had 1900 in her pocket before ever seeing him and another 800 (1000 that he gave her at the end minus 200 bus fare for the trip back home) after. I would say that netting 2700 pesos is a good damn day for someone of the status and means that members of the forum have bestowed upon her.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2027773]2 good days of sex with a nice chica is easily $200.[/QUOTE]Old Kool are you saying that when those sisters come see you for a day in Santo Domingo that you give them 4700 pesos each?

If you go to one of the average casas you would pay that much for short term in SD. A decent SW will cost 2 k or more for ST. To pay less would be a crime to my long term amigas. trust me I am getting a hell of a deal for the treatment they give me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2027788]Old Kool are you saying that when those sisters come see you for a day in Santo Domingo that you give them 4700 pesos each?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;2027819]If you go to one of the average casas you would pay that much for short term in SD. A decent SW will cost 2 k or more for ST. To pay less would be a crime to my long term amigas. trust me I am getting a hell of a deal for the treatment they give me.[/QUOTE]IMO, for the DR, that is ridiculous. Particularly when you are paying for food, drinks and potentially other things such as hair, nails or giving them gifts from home.

I never discuss dineros upfront. I usually just put the cash in their purse on their way out and specifically say it is for shopping. 90 pc of my chica friends never check or count in my presence. I also pay for their transport in their hand as they are leave in a moto and/or shared taxi or bus if they are visiting from another city. But they have a good time with me going to nice restaurants , the Playa , discotecas etc where I pay for everything. And a select few get 4 days and nights at Lifestyle all inclusive with me. Max cash ( before transport ) I put in their purse is 2k ( per day) before transport . If Lifestyle then it is 1.5k per day.

They are 19-23 and at least a 6.5/7 and up to a solid 8 ( I avoid 9's and 10's as they don't work as well for me and they have more choices and know their worth ).

I got here yesterday from Colombia and a new chick that works in a salon came through. It was her birthday and mine was the day before so we were supposed to celebrate together. This time I am staying at the Jaragua. When I checked in the girl at the desk asked if I wanted to upgrade to a tower room for $30 per day. I told her hell nawl. She ended up giving it to me for free when I started speaking Spanish to her. Must be my good looks! When I came down from my room I gave her a gift of a leather wallet from Thailand that I forgot to give to my girl in Colombia.

The hairdresser chick showed up and it was Taco Tuesday at the Jaragua. Tacos were 150 pesos and margaritas were 200. After 1 drink and a couple of tacos we went to the room and started fucking. She kept asking where we were going to go and I kept saying it is your country. You tell me. We ended up just laying around until finally she had to get home. I drove her up to the spot that Old Kool turned me on to, Paco Grands for her to get a taxi home. I had my favorite wings and plantain and grapefruit juice there as I usually do. I could eat at that place everyday.

Before going to Pacos I stopped by a colmado and gave her 1000 pesos to run in and get me a Coke that I could take with my headache powder. I let her keep the change from that. She woke me up this morning at 10:30 by sending a message asking how I was doing.

A lot depends on how much of a pro the girls is. If she is playing I want to be your girlfriend game. Then you are right on the money. I try to debug that BS upfront. I let them know upfront popi wants to have fun and fuck a lot. The chicas that send the nude photos get on the priority list. Most casas in SD charge 100 bucks short term. There are exceptions but they are dumps and personally I like a little GFE with my sex not here"s a towel wipe off. I generally do 2 chica a day when sport fucking at 2 k pesos a pop. Having a girlfriend 24/7 is a bargain at 100 a day. The food and drink are ancillary I rarely go to expensive restaurants but do eat and party to my satisfaction. I will sometimes bait the hook with a gift the chica asks for. This may be perfume, tennis shoes and even cheap smart phones. This mitigates the puta factor for them and motivates them to be on time and ready for you.

[QUOTE=Haven123;2027878]IMO, for the DR, that is ridiculous. Particularly when you are paying for food, drinks and potentially other things such as hair, nails or giving them gifts from home.

I never discuss dineros upfront. I usually just put the cash in their purse on their way out and specifically say it is for shopping. 90 pc of my chica friends never check or count in my presence. I also pay for their transport in their hand as they are leave in a moto and/or shared taxi or bus if they are visiting from another city. But they have a good time with me going to nice restaurants , the Playa , discotecas etc where I pay for everything. And a select few get 4 days and nights at Lifestyle all inclusive with me. Max cash ( before transport ) I put in their purse is 2k ( per day) before transport . If Lifestyle then it is 1.5k per day.

They are 19-23 and at least a 6.5/7 and up to a solid 8 ( I avoid 9's and 10's as they don't work as well for me and they have more choices and know their worth ).[/QUOTE]

This a report written by the forum master Camero.


The below listed casas offered in house rooms or take out. The ambiance in both was outstanding and they looked very clean and comfortable. I felt as if I were at home in both. The talent level in both was more than acceptable every woman I saw was at least a 7 and some 8's that almost made me want to part with my pesos.

casa teresa calle ortega de la se.

3500 dop for 1 hour in house, or 2 hours outside.

7000 dop for 4 hours outside.

casa condita calle las americas close to the colonial zone.

2500 dop for 1 hour in house.

3600 dop for 2 hours outside.

4000 dop for 3 hours outside.

gbp avenieda febero 27.

1000 dop for 1 hour 1 chica.

1500 dop for 1 hour 2 chicas.

*be careful some of the chicas will try to hit you for 2000 dop check at the bar and pay the correct traifa.

All of the below listed casas are on avenieda pastur in between avenieda indepencia & avenieda george Washington. The exception will be club 305 which is on avenieda indepencia & avenieda pastur. Apparently they are all in collusion with one another because all want 4000 dop for st and 8000 dop for tln.

It was ironic because I saw one of the sosua favorites who goes for 1500 dop in one of the clubs and she recognized me and she did was smile and nod. That event confirmed my theory about the market value of toto. Depending where you are the same toto from the same chica can double or triple with no change in quality or quantity.

The casas are as follows:

girls house.

sky high lounge.

sensacion discoteque.

club 305.

All of the casas had talent above 7 and I saw quite a few high 8's in each one. I could not bring myself to pay twice what I would pay in sosua despite the fact that I have paid the equivalent in san jose, Costa Rica, cartagena, Colombia and panama city, panama. I don't doubt that many of the chicas are worth 4000 dop it's just me.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2027917]Most casas in SD charge 100 bucks short term.[/QUOTE]Old Kool you are trying to compare apples and oranges. A limo service charges $100 to take you to the airport. Your friend says he will take you to the airport but before will stop you at Walmart to get condoms, the drug store to pick up your Viagra prescription, and Rainbow to buy dresses and bras for the chickenheads you get with on your trip. You buy lunch for your friend and put gas in his car. Are you going to give your friend $100?

Just like the limo service, a casa has overhead costs. In addition, the owner has to get paid to support his or her household. Your friend didn't have shit to do all day and was just sitting around watching Judge Judy, so taking you did not put him out of his way.

A better example would have been to say what the girl receives at the casa and compare it to what you give a girl that is not connected to an establishment. For instance at GBP you pay 1200 for the girl for an hour. The girls told me that they get 600 of that for the session. Take the 600 for the hour and compare it with the 4700 that you give the outside chick for the day.

GBP is a slum and the exception to the rule. You pay what you pay. Who cares what the pimps pay the girls. If you go to most casas you are paying serious cash. Huge difference having a girl 24 hours and 1 hour do the math. I would lay on a nasty GBp couch if you paid me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2027960]Old Kool you are trying to compare apples and oranges. A limo service charges $100 to take you to the airport. Your friend says he will take you to the airport but before will stop you at Walmart to get condoms, the drug store to pick up your Viagra prescription, and Rainbow to buy dresses and bras for the chickenheads you get with on your trip. You buy lunch for your friend and put gas in his car. Are you going to give your friend $100?

Just like the limo service, a casa has overhead costs. In addition, the owner has to get paid to support his or her household. Your friend didn't have shit to do all day and was just sitting around watching Judge Judy, so taking you did not put him out of his way.

A better example would have been to say what the girl receives at the casa and compare it to what you give a girl that is not connected to an establishment. For instance at GBP you pay 1200 for the girl for an hour. The girls told me that they get 600 of that for the session. Take the 600 for the hour and compare it with the 4700 that you give the outside chick for the day.[/QUOTE]

Pacos and the Jaragua, OK.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2027891]I got here yesterday from Colombia and a new chick that works in a salon came through. It was her birthday and mine was the day before so we were supposed to celebrate together. This time I am staying at the Jaragua. When I checked in the girl at the desk asked if I wanted to upgrade to a tower room for $30 per day. I told her hell nawl. She ended up giving it to me for free when I started speaking Spanish to her. Must be my good looks! When I came down from my room I gave her a gift of a leather wallet from Thailand that I forgot to give to my girl in Colombia.

The hairdresser chick showed up and it was Taco Tuesday at the Jaragua. Tacos were 150 pesos and margaritas were 200. After 1 drink and a couple of tacos we went to the room and started fucking. She kept asking where we were going to go and I kept saying it is your country. You tell me. We ended up just laying around until finally she had to get home. I drove her up to the spot that Old Kool turned me on to, Paco Grands for her to get a taxi home. I had my favorite wings and plantain and grapefruit juice there as I usually do. I could eat at that place everyday.

Before going to Pacos I stopped by a colmado and gave her 1000 pesos to run in and get me a Coke that I could take with my headache powder. I let her keep the change from that. She woke me up this morning at 10:30 by sending a message asking how I was doing.[/QUOTE]

FYI to the members, most casas in Santo Domingo do not charge anything close to $100. Most casas near the Malecon charge $100. Most casas in Santo Domingo are not near the Malecon. GBP is a low end exception, I did not consider in my statement. Excuse this brief interruption but I felt like I had to squirt a little reality into the mix.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2027917]A lot depends on how much of a pro the girls is. If she is playing I want to be your girlfriend game. Then you are right on the money. I try to debug that BS upfront. I let them know upfront popi wants to have fun and fuck a lot. The chicas that send the nude photos get on the priority list. Most casas in SD charge 100 bucks short term. There are exceptions but they are dumps and personally I like a little GFE with my sex not here"s a towel wipe off. I generally do 2 chica a day when sport fucking at 2 k pesos a pop. Having a girlfriend 24/7 is a bargain at 100 a day. The food and drink are ancillary I rarely go to expensive restaurants but do eat and party to my satisfaction. I will sometimes bait the hook with a gift the chica asks for. This may be perfume, tennis shoes and even cheap smart phones. This mitigates the puta factor for them and motivates them to be on time and ready for you.[/QUOTE]

I have not seen mention of these other Casas you referr to. Please enlighten us with their location and pricing.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2028022]FYI to the members, most casas in Santo Domingo do not charge anything close to $100. Most casas near the Malecon charge $100. Most casas in Santo Domingo are not near the Malecon. GBP is a low end exception, I did not consider in my statement. Excuse this brief interruption but I felt like I had to squirt a little reality into the mix.[/QUOTE]

I hit this one in the name of my main man Old Kool a few hours ago.

I am about to hit this one in the name of my other main man MrGogo.

I am about to hit this one in the name of my other main man MrGogo.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2028427]I am about to hit this one in the name of my other main man MrGogo.[/QUOTE]Man, you crazy. I like the Blanca Chica that met us at my colmado on avenida Venezuela two months ago. Such a waste, you should have gave her to me. Did you hit our strip club we talked about today?

Nice. Ty

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2028427]I am about to hit this one in the name of my other main man MrGogo.[/QUOTE]

Didn't want to leave Santo Domingo yesterday. That place is a goldmine. I was even thinking about renting me a little spot there.

Anyway. Got to the airport and entered the plane. As I walked through the aisle one chick moved out as to let me into the row of seats. I asked her why she did that. She said that she thought I was coming inside to sit down. I said you just wanted me to sit next to you because I am handsome. She said she thought I wanted to sit next to her because she is beautiful.

She said it was her first time in a plane and she was going to visit a friend that she had not seen in 20 years. I asked her if she was scared and she said no and said that she had her bible with her, at the same time showing it to me. I said yeah, but that book can't fly the plane.

We exchanged numbers and sent each other pictures before we left the ground. She will be here for 2 weeks and I am going to pick her up Saturday for her to come spend the day and night with me. Am I supposed to give her money?

More trip reports later.

Friday it was pouring down. A chick that lives in Boca Chica was supposed to come in the bus to visit me but complained about the rain. I decided to ride out to pick her up early in the evening.

On the way back to the city I noticed a police truck behind us. It did not seem like he was paying me any mind. He was in the far lane and it seemed he was going to continue on the highway as I took my exit. I should have known better than that! As I got off, he slammed on his brakes and swerved over to get off the exit too. I told the girl the cops were behind us and not to look (Black people know what I mean). She just couldn't resist though. The cops pulled up beside me talking on the loud speaker trying to get me to pull over. I did not look, but just kept driving ahead with my music blasting.

These mfs decide they would try to run me off the road. Not wanting to get the rental car damaged I stopped dead in the middle of Avenida Espana. I rolled down the window and said what is the problem. There were 2 of them. They told me to pull up to the right. I am talking in English the entire time. I said no you tell me what the problem is before I move this car. One got out and came around to my window. I let the window down and he started trying to talk to the girl in Spanish. I said no you do not talk to her. You talk to me. I am driving this fucking car.

He said well pull up to the right and give me your documents and I will tell you what the problem is. I said no fucking way. I tell you what. I will follow you to the embassy or either to see your boss. Keep in mind I am keeping it simple and saying embajada o jefe. He still kept trying to talk to the girl. I kept cussing his ass out telling him not to talk to her. Embajada or jefe.

Finally he got back in the truck and they pulled off. I followed closely behind them. Eventually they made a half u-turn and stopped. I was right behind him. The cop in the passenger seat got out again. I said no and pointing said embajada and national police is straight ahead, not back that way. He told me to just go on and forget about it. I said no no. Let's go to the embassy or national police. He got back in and they drove off.

The girl asked what the problem was. I told her that they always see it is a rental car so they try to pull you over to get money. She shook her damn head.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2029497] embajada o jefe. I told her that they always see it is a rental car so they try to pull you over to get money. [/QUOTE]Holy shit, Mr. E. You said that right.

If you believe you are the master of encounters with police you are sadly confused. These men are proud and often bullies. They are not above planting drugs or worse shooting you and creating a story. Doing what E did in the US would have lead to some jail time. In the DR the sky is the limit. One of these days he may catch the bad apple on a bad day. I have been going to the DR for 7 years and have had no encounters with the po po.

[QUOTE=DCups;2029530]Holy shit, Mr. E. You said that right.[/QUOTE]

This is good advice. I hope Mr. E and others heed it. It's important to give the police a way to save face and exit the situation with their dignity intact. Displays of anger or bravado toward them will not help you. You never want them to feel embarrassed or disrespected. It takes a bit of experience to strike the right balance between standing up for your rights without going over the line. Yelling and challenging the police is going over the line. They are not the ones you want to use to work off your aggression.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2029827]If you believe you are the master of encounters with police you are sadly confused. These men are proud and often bullies. They are not above planting drugs or worse shooting you and creating a story. Doing what E did in the US would have lead to some jail time. In the DR the sky is the limit. One of these days he may catch the bad apple on a bad day. I have been going to the DR for 7 years and have had no encounters with the po po.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;2029827]If you believe you are the master of encounters with police you are sadly confused. These men are proud and often bullies. They are not above planting drugs or worse shooting you and creating a story. Doing what E did in the US would have lead to some jail time. In the DR the sky is the limit. One of these days he may catch the bad apple on a bad day. I have been going to the DR for 7 years and have had no encounters with the po po.[/QUOTE]Stop it with this stuff Old Kool. Please site 1 instance where any of this stuff you are claiming will happen has happened. No matter what old wives tales you have heard, the DR is not the wild west. The reason you have never had any encounters is because you do not drive. I said in the post that they pull you over when they see you are driving a rental car in order to extort you. If you are walking or in a taxi or in a bus of course you would not have any encounters.

Maybe you have not heard about the case in Sosua a few years ago where top brass were locked up for robbing German expats that live there?

[URL]http://www.listindiario.com/la-republica/2013/8/13/288179/Ordenan-arresto-contra-oficiales-vinculados-al-caso-La-Mulata-III-Sosua[/URL]

The difference is that had I been pulled over in the US then it would have been for a legitimate reason and I would cooperate. When you know you have done nothing wrong and know their angle it is a different ballgame. Would you just recommend a person allow themselves to be extorted by these bullies as you have put it? Where would the line be drawn? Should a person offer them 1000 pesos? What if that is not enough? 1000 dollars maybe? Or just have your bank wire 10000 dollars to each of them. And if that is not even enough, then what?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2029856]Stop it with this stuff Old Kool. Please site 1 instance where any of this stuff you are claiming will happen has happened.[/QUOTE]I drive a rental car in the DR and I am a dark skinned guy just as much you are, so I am not sure about the veracity of this rental car and cops looking for some easy money connection. In all these times, I have been stopped twice: once because I was using cell phone (in Santiago) and asked the man to write me the citation which he did; Another time, two lads (I mean cops) in Boca chica stopped me and they had no clue about rental cars, until I showed them the papers, had a friendly chat and that was the end of it. Your story, that I read with bated breath, is of bravado and I would not doubt there might be legit reasons for you to fight the cops but perhaps they are drawn to you for some other reason?

Good luck to you Sir. Old Kool is correct. I hope you take his advice.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2029856]Stop it with this stuff Old Kool. Please site 1 instance where any of this stuff you are claiming will happen has happened. No matter what old wives tales you have heard, the DR is not the wild west. The reason you have never had any encounters is because you do not drive. I said in the post that they pull you over when they see you are driving a rental car in order to extort you. If you are walking or in a taxi or in a bus of course you would not have any encounters.

Maybe you have not heard about the case in Sosua a few years ago where top brass were locked up for robbing German expats that live there?

[URL]http://www.listindiario.com/la-republica/2013/8/13/288179/Ordenan-arresto-contra-oficiales-vinculados-al-caso-La-Mulata-III-Sosua[/URL]

The difference is that had I been pulled over in the US then it would have been for a legitimate reason and I would cooperate. When you know you have done nothing wrong and know their angle it is a different ballgame. Would you just recommend a person allow themselves to be extorted by these bullies as you have put it? Where would the line be drawn? Should a person offer them 1000 pesos? What if that is not enough? 1000 dollars maybe? Or just have your bank wire 10000 dollars to each of them. And if that is not even enough, then what?[/QUOTE]

Yikes. My white Canadian buddy and I got pulled over in a rental last year and wound up paying them 500 P just to get rid of them. One time a cop in Sosua asked me for money just walking around. I ignored him and walked off pretending I did not understand. I don't like the cops in the DR or anywhere for that matter but if it seems like it will escalate do what they say.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2029827]If you believe you are the master of encounters with police you are sadly confused. These men are proud and often bullies. They are not above planting drugs or worse shooting you and creating a story. Doing what E did in the US would have lead to some jail time. In the DR the sky is the limit. One of these days he may catch the bad apple on a bad day. I have been going to the DR for 7 years and have had no encounters with the po po.[/QUOTE].

Like others. There is a pattern of overpaying here in the DR. And like many, they have associated their experiences into a monetary value, and what it represents to THEM. Especially how it relates to somewhere else where it may cost more. But the problem with that is, how one particular individual sees or feels things does not necessarily represent how others ( including the overpaid chicas ) should feel or embrace it, just because they do.

All those on this board and elsewhere lamenting about how poor many of these women are, and know how low the average monthly income is for locals, should not be calling anybody cheap or names for the things guys do with or for them. Its way more than any local man is doing for them. And there is no reason to pay more for something when paying enough will do.

You send a chica 2500 pesos before hooking up with her. Pay to feed her and another person, arrange for food to be taken back, give her more money than necessary to return home. So just because that guy doesn't over pay a chica at YOUR rate, he's supposed to be cheap?

I think both the aunt and the chica should feel blessed that they were well compensated by DR standards. What else did they have going on that day, than coming to meet a gringo to extract from? If the trip wasnt worth it, then they shouldn't have come. Did it ever occur to some of you, that the chica was trying to take advantage of the guy, after all the stuff he did with them that day? And the high probability that she was lying about an urgent need for 5000 pesos, only after she got home.

Did she approach any of the local men she fucks with some story of needing 5000 pesos? You know, I know that having sex with a woman does not have to cost more than what's enough. Anything more, is a hustle, or an emotional knee jerk reaction.

I'm with Mr E on this one. I don't know why certain men try to act like these are little innocent children. And think that they have some sort of pride to protect and can't speak up for themselves. They sure don't have any problems lying their asses off. Sending bogus pictures and shit. Thats a bunch of horseshit. Them muggs can be more ruthless in character than you muggs give them credit for. Paying a chica $100 usd a day to me is like paying a taxi $100 for a $30 taxi ride. Why should anyone feel the need to pay $70 more for something when it is not required, nor will it guarantee anything more, or anything special?

Just because I'm emotional and keep making comparisons of some other place, I should feel grateful and pay more? Unchecked emotions in this game clouds judgement. Paying what's enough is intelligent. Paying more just because I am emotional, and being self righteous about paying more, especially towards others, is not.

I rarely agree with Mr free pussy E. And WRX I think you have always been a bit paranoid when it comes to the chicas. No offence intended. When you leave Sosua not every girl is out to rip you off. Their poverty is no joke. They use what they have to improve their lives. This often is their good looks and sex. They are human beings and have pride and dignity. They often do not see themselves as Putas. Do you guys see yourselves as tricks. The gentlemen who generousity was questioned initilally appeared cheap. He later explained the additional expenditures he made. All of us who enjoy this activity know there is a price to pay exception MR E.

Sure there are chica who try to milk it and many who are straight. However they have no power to makre you give them a dime. I never blow up becaause a chica asked for money. I just say no and keep it moving. We are certainly not the innocent in these encounters. They play games and we play games. I have had relationships with some ladies 7 years.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2026947]I guess it is all a matter of perspective. I think it is pathetic that she would ask him for 5000 pesos after she got back home. If you are doing it for money then it is best to say so up front. (Have any mongers on this board ever given a chick in DR 5000 pesos?) And as he said, he did send her money before she even came, which was I am sure more than it cost to get her hair done and to get there. Don't know how much he sent, but the amount that I have heard chicks try to get guys for before they come is $100.[/QUOTE]I see ya point. Also both should have appreciated the dude for paying extra for the aunts expenses. He wasnt involved with the aunt, so there really wasnt any reason he needed to pay for her company too. Maybe it didn't occur to a few cats, that if the chica hadn't brought along her aunt to help spend the guys money, there might have been more to give her when she left?

As far as a chica getting her hair done or the cost of transpo? That is usually an exaggerated story / excuse just to get the gravy train on track. What they are hoping to do, is get the guy to totally ignore that initial expense, and to see it as something necessary for her to look her best when she comes. But that's all bullshit. If the dude is guilty of anything, what he did was take a chance on paying partially for services / company he hadn't received yet. She may not have been looking at his initial expense as partial payment, the meals for her and her aunt, and the extra money to get home as full compensation. But that is her problem if she doesn't see it that way.

If we are the ones that rule because we have the so called GOLD, then why can't we fucking act like it? We can't allow chicas to dictate what's enough compensation. Or manipulate us and discount our offerings and contributions to their comfort as nothing. Maybe this is why so many chicas expectations are so out of fucking control now. Because of muggs overpaying every time they feel special being around some chica. Once you start the cycle of emotional over paying, you can't just back off. And as we know it, some guys are afraid to change up. Because they probably think the chicas will bail on them, and / or not prioritize them for their next visit. That's not a man in control. Of his GOLD.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2029966]I drive a rental car in the DR and I am a dark skinned guy just as much you are, so I am not sure about the veracity of this rental car and cops looking for some easy money connection. In all these times, I have been stopped twice: once because I was using cell phone (in Santiago) and asked the man to write me the citation which he did; Another time, two lads (I mean cops) in Boca chica stopped me and they had no clue about rental cars, until I showed them the papers, had a friendly chat and that was the end of it. Your story, that I read with bated breath, is of bravado and I would not doubt there might be legit reasons for you to fight the cops but perhaps they are drawn to you for some other reason?[/QUOTE]If you rent from a major company there is a sticker on the window with a barcode. That is how they know it to be a rental car. If you rent from a small time place that is not located at the airport then that sticker will not be there. What could I have possibly have been doing all of the at least 20 times that I have been pulled over by the police? Mind you in all of these times I have never gotten 1 citation (and in this most recent incident the guys would not even state their reason for pulling me over).

All of the times that I have gotten pulled over except for 1, it has been by the National Police, who mind you, can not give out citations. AMET is the authority that gives out the citations. The National Police is there for crimes, not traffic offenses. Even the time I totalled a rental car that I was driving, the National Police showed up first. There were about 6 of them in the truck. The only thing they could do was push the car out of the road. They said for anything else I would. have to wait until the AMET guy arrived.

Only in Santo Domingo do I get pulled over like this. It does not happen in Boca Chica, Punta Cana, Higuey, Sosua, Puerta Plata, Santiago, Bonao, Nagua, La Vega, Moca, or any place else.

Even Gogo can attest that my first time meeting up with him years ago, I was escorted by the police because they had pulled me over earlier saying I ran a light in a place where there was not even a light. I would not give them money right then so they escorted me to where he was before giving my license back and that is when they asked for money outright but I still did not give it to them so they left.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2030311]I rarely agree with Mr free pussy E. And WRX I think you have always been a bit paranoid when it comes to the chicas. No offence intended. When you leave Sosua not every girl is out to rip you off. Their poverty is no joke. They use what they have to improve their lives. This often is their good looks and sex. They are human beings and have pride and dignity. They often do not see themselves as Putas. Do you guys see yourselves as tricks. The gentlemen who generousity was questioned initilally appeared cheap. He later explained the additional expenditures he made. All of us who enjoy this activity know there is a price to pay exception MR E.[/QUOTE]But you act as if you are down there passing out money to people for the sole reason because they are poor. When in fact you are giving out money because you fucked them. I dare you to go down on your next trip and not fuck anyone, but give them the same money as if you had because they are so poor. Of course you are not about to do that shit.

I can not understand what someone's economic status has to do with anything regarding how much money you give them for sex or any product or service. Please explain how you got the two twisted. By your logic we should give a first world escort less because they are better off.

It doesn't matter what you see yourself as. The definition will hold true regardless. So because the White lady Rachel Dolezal sees herself as Black and not White it means that she really is not White, even though her own White parents says she is?

[QUOTE=OldKool;2030311]I rarely agree with Mr free pussy E. And WRX I think you have always been a bit paranoid when it comes to the chicas. No offence intended. When you leave Sosua not every girl is out to rip you off. Their poverty is no joke. They use what they have to improve their lives. This often is their good looks and sex. They are human beings and have pride and dignity. They often do not see themselves as Putas. Do you guys see yourselves as tricks. The gentlemen who generousity was questioned initilally appeared cheap. He later explained the additional expenditures he made. All of us who enjoy this activity know there is a price to pay exception MR E.

Sure there are chica who try to milk it and many who are straight. However they have no power to makre you give them a dime. I never blow up becaause a chica asked for money. I just say no and keep it moving. We are certainly not the innocent in these encounters. They play games and we play games. I have had relationships with some ladies 7 years.[/QUOTE]That depends on your perspective. Mr OK, I have always been a realist and more honest in regards to what I observed or experienced personally, as well as reporting the same from other mongers. Reporting information that is relevant and applicable to whom it fits doesn't mean a person is paranoid. More accurately, you exaggerating details and distorting information you assimilate, I see that as more the problem. For instance. "not every girl is out to rip you off". When did anybody say anything about EVERY of anything? This is how you exaggerate and distort information rather than try to engage people so you can understand their POV.

You say the guy initially appeared to be cheap. By whose standards? The guy said in the outset that he paid money upfront before she even got there. Isn't that what you say you do too? Then he paid for the chica and her aunt to eat. You knew that information from the very beginning. So just from that information that you knew, when did he become cheap? You never knew how much he sent her. So why would you go there?

You don't have to give me justification or excuses of these chicas lives. Just stick to the issue. You jumped to assumptions and / or conclusions about the dude before digesting the information that he provided initially. 1st thing you could have asked since spending money on chicas is so important to you, is how much did he send her before she came? Then you could have asked how much he paid for all of the expenses towards her and the aunt. Is there something that prevented you from inquiring about that before assuming he might be cheap?

What is so hard about getting facts and details straight before assuming wrongly about what someone posts on these boards?

[QUOTE=OldKool;2030311]Their poverty is no joke. They use what they have to improve their lives. This often is their good looks and sex. They are human beings and have pride and dignity. They often do not see themselves as Putas. Do you guys see yourselves as tricks. Sure there are chica who try to milk it and many who are straight. However they have no power to makre you give them a dime. I never blow up becaause a chica asked for money. I just say no and keep it moving. We are certainly not the innocent in these encounters. They play games and we play games. I have had relationships with some ladies 7 years.[/QUOTE]Please explain why you bothered to write all of that? Nobody else but you knows the dynamics of how chicas attempt to live as human beings? They have no power to make you give them a dime. I agree. But maybe it's not about their power, but the power guys are giving up. By paying more than what's enough. Nice you never blow up because a chica asked for money. I don't see why you would. A chica asking for money is one of your desired bait tools. If you aint interested, you can just say no. Nothing special about exercising that option. No different than any other mans options.

What do you mean, we are not innocent in these encounters? Whats innocence got to do with anything? What games are you talking about? Are womens disadvantages playing the game out weighing a mans?

I have been stopped and ask for money in Santo Domingo in a rental car by the police, as well as Sosua at a road block. One time driving from Santo Domingo to Sosua on the main highway just east of Nagua in a van with 5 other guys, two guys in army fatigues blocked the road with large rifles and ask for propina to pass. We all gave them money, scared the hell out of all of us. Kind of took the fun out of the trip. Be safe out there, you are in a third world country.

[QUOTE=CooleMr;2030424]I have been stopped and ask for money in Santo Domingo in a rental car by the police, as well as Sosua at a road block. One time driving from Santo Domingo to Sosua on the main highway just east of Nagua in a van with 5 other guys, two guys in army fatigues blocked the road with large rifles and ask for propina to pass. We all gave them money, scared the hell out of all of us. Kind of took the fun out of the trip. Be safe out there, you are in a third world country.[/QUOTE]They depend on you getting scared and being intimidated as it appears most on this board are. The leader of the group you are talking about is me and Gogo's buddy. Our first time encountering them I think Gogo was driving. The guy asked for money and Gogo told him that we would not have money until we went to the bank in Cabarete the next day. Then the guy asked for cologne. I told him we didn't have any. Then he asked for soap. At that time we all started laughing and just drove off.

A couple of days later on our way back we encountered them again. When we slowed down and he saw who we were, they waved us through without even stopping. I guess he said I don't want to try to deal with them cheap mfs again. Now whenever I see him in that spot I throw him a peace sign as I ride past.

I just found out that the chick that I met on the plane is a criminal lawyer so Fuck The Police! She invited me to a party Saturday night. I already told her that I wanted to fuck her, but you guys still have not told me how much money I should give her.

Perhaps best posted on the Santiago board, but since the discussion on topic is here, I'll post here.

I've lived here three years and just this April began to notice the frequency at which the stops described on this board are occurring. It seems here the expectation is almost universal now for flights coming to Santiago. Including taxis. Moreso, the airport is more regularly singling out passengers for a second x-ray check of your bags if you have two or more, including small carry-ONS. The scam seems to be the guys hanging out at the end of the x-ray offering to reload your bags onto the cart and take them out for you. Of course, propina are involved.

But, keep in mind too that this new practice identifies if you have particular items someone may want. And stopping you to open your bags may be occurring after a call down the street to keep a watchful eye. I'm not so sure these guys are doing anything alone anymore.

There are more and more PN patrols with full gear and weapons in ciudad central too. And they will stop you to see what's in bags. Also a practice I've not seen.

I generally never get bothered driving unless you are talking on a cell phone. In that case I have dropped a hundred pesos to just avoid the hassle of dealing with a ticket. AMET is hot on that issue here and they now seem to be paying more attention to the cell phone issue. Now if they would apply the same interest to taxis, conchos and motores the revenue would make this country rich overnight. LOL.

Bottom line, be prepared.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2030331]If you rent from a major company there is a sticker on the window with a barcode. That is how they know it to be a rental car. [/QUOTE]I am a cheapskate and so I always rent from Nelly. Indeed I thought I read in the past that you rented from them too. In any case, last year alone, I was in the country 5-6 times, not to speak of the past and as I mentioned, I have had only two run ins so far and certainly both were legit (I have also been through several road blocks which are for everyone). In any case, I do not want to hazard a guess as to why you get pulled over, or at least it would be understandable if it were say, in Michigan or Florida. Perhaps the bad karma of yours always complaining about the DR women, makes the DR gods vengeful? LOL!

Jajajajaja what was your crime? Cheers, amigo

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2030507]I just found out that the chick that I met on the plane is a criminal lawyer so Fuck The Police! She invited me to a party Saturday night. I already told her that I wanted to fuck her, but you guys still have not told me how much money I should give her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DCups;2030543]Jajajajaja what was your crime? Cheers, amigo[/QUOTE]Taking so long to send you a picture of my girl in Puerto Plata titties!

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2030536]Perhaps the bad karma of yours always complaining about the DR women, makes the DR gods vengeful? LOL![/QUOTE]Hey. That may very well be the case. Nothing has changed. Nelly is the best!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2030467]They depend on you getting scared and being intimidated as it appears most on this board are. The leader of the group you are talking about is me and Gogo's buddy. Our first time encountering them I think Gogo was driving. The guy asked for money and Gogo told him that we would not have money until we went to the bank in Cabarete the next day. Then the guy asked for cologne. I told him we didn't have any. Then he asked for soap. At that time we all started laughing and just drove off.

A couple of days later on our way back we encountered them again. When we slowed down and he saw who we were, they waved us through without even stopping. I guess he said I don't want to try to deal with them cheap mfs again. Now whenever I see him in that spot I throw him a peace sign as I ride past.[/QUOTE]That guy has been there for years and he has a pretty good hustle going on. I've made that Santo Domingo drive about 15 times and he has been there 10 times. The funny part was that I had Mr E with me my third time and I laughed when I saw the guy and played stupid so he focused on Mr E. He had me in the drivers seat and E in the passengers seat but he asked E for his permit. I'm laughing inside as he and E go at it from the cologne to the soap. I had 50 pesos in the ashtray for such an occasion but E wasn't giving up shit. We went to Sosua for a few days and he was there for the drive to SD. I again laughed but he wasn't wasting time with us as I drove buy. I'm thinking this guy has a gold mine with this spot and gets many unsuspecting newbies. I don't trip on 100 pesos and usually pay them off but me and this guy both laugh at the attempt, after the first time.

Nelly is the best unless you ever need roadside assistance. If that happens, you will wish you went with National or Avis. It's not a huge deal but you will have to arrange for your own repairs to get the car going again. That's pretty easy to do even out in the campos but who wants to be bothered?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2030556]Hey. That may very well be the case. Nothing has changed. Nelly is the best![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2030507]I just found out that the chick that I met on the plane is a criminal lawyer so Fuck The Police! She invited me to a party Saturday night. I already told her that I wanted to fuck her, but you guys still have not told me how much money I should give her.[/QUOTE]I have never met you, but despite appearances to your fellow mongers (you seem a bit creepy) she likes you in the non P4P way. She doesn't need or want your money.

Remember, no hooker is ever as expensive as a wife (or a girlfriend).

F.

He was being sarcastic about paying her. After all these years he still can not tell the difference from dating and mongering. He is proud of seducing non pro DR chicas and not ponying up much cash (claim to fame). He was attempting to mock us who prefer to P4 P.

[QUOTE=Forest;2031056]I have never met you, but despite appearances to your fellow mongerers (you seem a bit creepy) she likes you in the non P4 P way. She doesn't need or want your money.

Remember, no hooker is ever as expensive as a wife (or a girlfriend).

F.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;2031257]He was being sarcastic about paying her. After all these years he still can not tell the difference from dating and mongering. He is proud of seducing non pro DR chicas and not ponying up much cash (claim to fame). He was attempting to mock us who prefer to P4 P.[/QUOTE]Mr E is a smart dude but he has no problem playing the odds and taking risks, good or bad. He does crazy shit that I would never do, but he is an intellectual and life to him is a school experiment. I hate rejection and it doesn't bother him. He will do an experiment where he walks up to 30 different girls and says the line"You want to suck my dick now?" and 29 will turn him down but the one chic that bites has fallen into his trap. He knows he shouldn't be trying these cops but he knows that 99 out of 100 times he will get away with it not even concerned about that one time where they might be having a bad day and go upside his head. He uses life to his advantage in his own way. Also I will say that his reports are very accurate and he don't give a fuck about what people think of him. Once people understand this about him and take into consideration his world wide experience he can be a complete asset. In Thailand he showed us places we would have never found. If you need up to date info on traveling Camaro, Mr E and Tomjackin have already been there recently (and written reports) and will give you the complete scoop. And no! I'm not defending a good friend he can do that himself. Just giving some insight about the teacher.

P.S: Where the fuck is Grownman, did the Sarge put him in the brig?

[QUOTE=OldKool;2031257]He was being sarcastic about paying her. After all these years he still can not tell the difference from dating and mongering. He is proud of seducing non pro DR chicas and not ponying up much cash (claim to fame). He was attempting to mock us who prefer to P4 P.[/QUOTE]Once again Old Kool gets it confused. Of course I can tell the difference from dating and mongering. It is the many guys such as Old Kool that can not tell the difference and insists that every female that you meet in the DR you must pay. As is evident where he says "seducing NON-PRO DR chicas and not ponying up much cash. " Why the hell would you need to pony up cash to a chick that is not selling pussy?

I had some time last night so I went and picked up the chick that I met on the plane. She came to spend the night. We went out to a bar and I showed her around my city. Come to find out she is not only a criminal defense lawyer, but a constitutional law professor. After we each showered and layed down to go to sleep she started putting the moves on me. She went straight for my dick. I can not beat this girl off of me. I will see her again Saturday when it is time for the party that her friend invited me to. And her friend paid for my dinner yesterday when I picked her up.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2030853]Nelly is the best unless you ever need roadside assistance. If that happens, you will wish you went with National or Avis. .[/QUOTE]You are right!! A few years back, I was coming from Sosua back to Santiago, using the mountain road. I hit one of the zillion potholes that abound and one tire went flat. Fortunately it was daytime and I had no plane to catch. I soon found young men coming from around the pueblo. One of them, on his own initiative, took out the tire, using the jack. Unfortunately the spare in the trunk was no good, and the Idiot that I am, I had not checked it when I started the rental. In any case, this young man asked another young man (they were 15/16 years perhaps. Lads really) to accompany him on his moto. They took it to the closest tire repair guy and brought it back within about 45 minutes and put the whole thing back again. All I did during this interval, was sit on a plastic chair by the roadside, which their parents brought and drank a beer from one of the Colmados and chatted with the people around. It is true that Nelly is bad on service but I got to see another aspect of a beautiful land and people. Sure I paid them some money but imagine this happening in the "First World"? Nelly is fine with me despite the terrible "road assistance", I just make sure that the spare is in good shape prior to driving out of the lot.

I think Nelly is fine if you won't be doing a lot of long distance driving. Santo Domingo and east to Juan Dolio won't be a big deal. Any night driving out of the city really calls for roadside assistance of the sort Nelly doesn't provide. Even a 2 hour trip to Santiago from Santo Domingo is ill advised in a Nelly car at night. I don't see a problem making the trip during the daytime because you will get help quickly. Drive carefully everyone, please.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2031454]You are right!! A few years back, I was coming from Sosua back to Santiago, using the mountain road. I hit one of the zillion potholes that abound and one tire went flat. Fortunately it was daytime and I had no plane to catch. I soon found young men coming from around the pueblo. One of them, on his own initiative, took out the tire, using the jack. Unfortunately the spare in the trunk was no good, and the Idiot that I am, I had not checked it when I started the rental. In any case, this young man asked another young man (they were 15/16 years perhaps. Lads really) to accompany him on his moto. They took it to the closest tire repair guy and brought it back within about 45 minutes and put the whole thing back again. All I did during this interval, was sit on a plastic chair by the roadside, which their parents brought and drank a beer from one of the Colmados and chatted with the people around. It is true that Nelly is bad on service but I got to see another aspect of a beautiful land and people. Sure I paid them some money but imagine this happening in the "First World"? Nelly is fine with me despite the terrible "road assistance", I just make sure that the spare is in good shape prior to driving out of the lot.[/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

Having a great time here in the Capitol city. Staying at Hotel Portes 9 off of Arzobispo Calle on the northeast end of zona colonial. In parque rosa. Nice quiet inexpensive little 2 or 3 star with nice breakfast, good staff, nice location, restaurant nearby both expensive and inexpensive, fun, fun, fun. Of course I am seeing my three beautiful regulars, all DDDs ages 21, 29 and 32 and getting some new ones on the side. I just love coming here even if only for a few days. My Cuban Canadian buddy who lives here has a car so we go to Juan Dolio beach for more good times, good cheap food and mas sexi chicas en bikinis of course. Geez this place is hooter heaven!

Cheers!

Do you like women with large breasts?

[QUOTE=DCups;2034615]Hi guys,

Having a great time here in the Capitol city. Staying at Hotel Portes 9 off of Arzobispo Calle on the northeast end of zona colonial. In parque rosa. Nice quiet inexpensive little 2 or 3 star with nice breakfast, good staff, nice location, restaurant nearby both expensive and inexpensive, fun, fun, fun. Of course I am seeing my three beautiful regulars, all DDDs ages 21, 29 and 32 and getting some new ones on the side. I just love coming here even if only for a few days. My Cuban Canadian buddy who lives here has a car so we go to Juan Dolio beach for more good times, good cheap food and mas sexi chicas en bikinis of course. Geez this place is hooter heaven!

Cheers![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2034748]Do you like women with large breasts?[/QUOTE]I do! It's one of the main reasons I travel to the DR in the first place. Freaking boob capital of the world down there!

Jajaja I am a boob addict. Got to have them

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2034748]Do you like women with large breasts?[/QUOTE]

Mr D Cups has a Harem of women with huge Tits. I have seen some and they a legit.

[QUOTE=DCups;2035143]Jajaja I am a boob addict. Got to have them[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DCups;2034615]Hi guys,

Having a great time here in the Capitol city. Staying at Hotel Portes 9 off of Arzobispo Calle on the northeast end of zona colonial. In parque rosa. Nice quiet inexpensive little 2 or 3 star with nice breakfast, good staff, nice location,

Cheers![/QUOTE]Is this place guest friendly? I stayed there one night a couple weeks ago but due to being with business associates, I did not get a chance to play. I'm going again in a couple weeks, but this time solo and plan to monger a bit.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2025968]In SD I'm in Bella Vista so hit Executivos last night as a girl cancelled who was going to come-same girl came first in SD.

Executivos had 20 girls and 2 guys when I came. I was immediately surrounded by 10 girls plus-was like Centaurus in Rio. Like flies on shit.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Quick question.

Monger map is pretty outdated. Where is executivos located? Is it walking or cab distance from hotel Bq in Bella vista.

Yes. I could never stay in a place that wasn't! Just make sure they have their cedula.

[QUOTE=Pogostick;2035439]Is this place guest friendly? I stayed there one night a couple weeks ago but due to being with business associates, I did not get a chance to play. I'm going again in a couple weeks, but this time solo and plan to monger a bit.[/QUOTE]

If you have the street address, or at least the name of the street, you can plot direction with google maps or something similar.

[QUOTE=RumAndSand;2035500]Hi,

Quick question.

Monger map is pretty outdated. Where is executivos located? Is it walking or cab distance from hotel Bq in Bella vista.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2031346]It is the many guys that can not tell the difference and insists that every female that you meet in the DR you must pay.[/QUOTE]Of the many things that I have read that Mr. E has written. This is one of the few things where he spot on with and that I agree with. Not an endorsement just a confirmation.

Does anyone have a recommendation for finding P4 P in the Zona Colonial? I am looking for a club with FL, not a club for picking up non pros.

I find the Av Venezuela to be a bit scary these days, and the hookah scene leaves me gasping for fresh air. But a recommendation for a nice club there would also be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Forest;2038264]Does anyone have a recommendation for finding P4 P in the Zona Colonial? I am looking for a club with FL, not a club for picking up non pros.

I find the Av Venezuela to be a bit scary these days, and the hookah scene leaves me gasping for fresh air. But a recommendation for a nice club there would also be appreciated.[/QUOTE]There are a few but it's a Dominican thing. Dominican dudes with money and status will trump a gringo with limited Spanish every time. Most of these spots have semi pros. Be careful in Zona Colonial clubs because most cater to the alternate crowd. Your best bet is to team with a Dominican with status and have him show you around. SD is funny because I've had the most success with women when I'm alone not looking for pussy. Something about a solo gringo minding his own business makes these girls more open. Go around SD being a hound and the girls will enjoy leaving you hanging. A club with freelancers in Zona colonial? I know of none.

Avenida Venezuela I have never found scary and I just left there. The big two story open bar / restaurant on the corner has a colmado directly across the street that I post up at. Most girls at AV are there to party and be cool not to fuck some gringo stranger. Internet girls, casas, street walkers are you best bet in SD as a visitor. Good luck.

What makes SD tough for many guys is that there is no central place to find chives. They're every where and need Spanish to hook them. The average DR chica is happy to give a gringo a shot if he can ask for the love. I am importing talent because hunting is not reliable.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2038961]What makes SD tough for many guys is that there is no central place to find chives. They're every where and need Spanish to hook them. The average DR chica is happy to give a gringo a shot if he can ask for the love.[/QUOTE]Exactly my man! With language skills it is easier to just pull women from almost any venue you happen to be in. You can speak directly to them and being here on the ground always trumps some character talking to them on the internet. My problem here is not finding women. It is making enough time to keep the ones I have on the team happy. I regret that I have but one dick to serve the vast population of desirable women here. But if you goto the right venues you can find non-pros that have jobs and speak English. Of course when you are just visiting and the girl you want to see only gets one day off a week. I can see how that could create some scheduling disadvantages for those individuals.

Santo Domingo is for Big Dogs. How does that saying go again? If you can't run with the Big Dogs stay on your porch in Sosua or Boca Chica. LOL!

FYI: A very easy way to avoid the taxi scam with girls you want to see is to send Uber to pick them up. You can send Uber to pick them and bring her to you. I have it on the recommendation of more than just a few brother here and my own personal usage of the service that Uber is great.

It cost me 460 peso to get to my hotel from the airport. Caught the publico and a cab. Chica number 1 is late. Not 5 but will show at 8. I have 3 others posting if she is late. Yes had beer and a coffee already at Pocos. Saw some sw action there. One was fatter then a Christmas goose.

Thanks to the DCup for hotel portis 9. The place very nice but a bit off the beaten track but rooms are nice. One of cheap hotels shut down Reina Isabella is closed. The place need ed work but price and location made it attractive to me. 35 dollars was hard to beat. So far so good. The lady being late saved me wine & dine money. It is straight to the cabanana for rack time. I think she will be on point

[QUOTE=OldKool;2038961]What makes SD tough for many guys is that there is no central place to find chives. They're every where and need Spanish to hook them. The average DR chica is happy to give a gringo a shot if he can ask for the love. I am importing talent because hunting is not reliable.[/QUOTE]I don't really speak Spanish and I didn't have that problem. Then again, I'm a tall white guy, and I'm a magnet for chicas who want to sell their services. I'm working on Spanish and maybe I can get better than the basic phrases. But, if you have money and are willing to pay, the girls who have something to sell will find you. People are always trying to sell you something in the DR. Pussy is one of them.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2038961]What makes SD tough for many guys is that there is no central place to find chives. [/QUOTE]On the other hand, in any of the major supermarkets you can find fresh garlic, leeks, and shallots, which in some cases could be used by mongers as a replacement. The word for chives is 'ebollinos', so if anyone can find a good source for them, please post that information here.

You're welcome, Old Kool. Have fun, buddy. The other inexpensive one I stay at is Maison Gartreaux on Calle Feliz Mariano Lluberas, in Gascue behind Crowne Plaza, a ten-minute walk to Pacos. Sometimes I splurge for a room at Napolitano because of the pool and menu but my chicas don't seem to mind the cheaper places I stay. At half the price means twice the pussy! Be on the lookout for hot Venezolanas and bang one for me. Big tits of course jajajjajajajaj.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2039171]It cost me 460 peso to get to my hotel from the airport. Caught the publico and a cab. Chica number 1 is late. Not 5 but will show at 8. I have 3 others posting if she is late. Yes had beer and a coffee already at Pocos. Saw some sw action there. One was fatter then a Christmas goose.

Thanks to the DCup for hotel portis 9. The place very nice but a bit off the beaten track but rooms are nice. One of cheap hotels shut down Reina Isabella is closed. The place need ed work but price and location made it attractive to me. 35 dollars was hard to beat. So far so good. The lady being late saved me wine & dine money. It is straight to the cabanana for rack time. I think she will be on point[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrGogo;2038273]There are a few but it's a Dominican thing. Dominican dudes with money and status will trump a gringo with limited Spanish every time. Most of these spots have semi pros. Be careful in Zona Colonial clubs because most cater to the alternate crowd. Your best bet is to team with a Dominican with status and have him show you around. SD is funny because I've had the most success with women when I'm alone not looking for pussy. Something about a solo gringo minding his own business makes these girls more open. Go around SD being a hound and the girls will enjoy leaving you hanging. A club with freelancers in Zona colonial? I know of none.

Avenida Venezuela I have never found scary and I just left there. The big two story open bar / restaurant on the corner has a colmado directly across the street that I post up at. Most girls at AV are there to party and be cool not to fuck some gringo stranger. Internet girls, casas, street walkers are you best bet in SD as a visitor. Good luck.[/QUOTE]I must say that I am not surprised no one appears to know of a club in the Zona Colonial with FL. I am open to other suggestions.

I speak fluent Spanish, by the way. But the volume of the music in the Ave Venezuela area was so loud when I went last Thursday, conversation was out of the question. I am home now but when I return I will try your bar.

I have been to the DR about 20 times, and my most reliable chicas are girls I met on the internet. But these usually take a few days to cultivate. Perhaps I should stick to the casas when I find myself unexpectedly without a girl at night (this happened on Friday due to an unexpected no show).

[QUOTE=Forest;2039530]I must say that I am not surprised no one appears to know of a club in the Zona Colonial with FL. I am open to other suggestions.

I speak fluent Spanish, by the way. But the volume of the music in the Ave Venezuela area was so loud when I went last Thursday, conversation was out of the question. I am home now but when I return I will try your bar.

I have been to the DR about 20 times, and my most reliable chicas are girls I met on the internet. But these usually take a few days to cultivate. Perhaps I should stick to the casas when I find myself unexpectedly without a girl at night (this happened on Friday due to an unexpected no show).[/QUOTE]That's the history of SD, guys having no shows. Its happened to all of us so don't feel bad. Guys, myself included don't know why the capital that is bigger and with more women shouldn't be easier. My guess is that with more venues set up for Dominican P4P, they are not desperate for gringo dollars like the other towns where the gringo dollar is valued.

I've also noticed that most SD girls are really barrio girls who have to step up their game for the gringo. That probably explains the no shows and the lateness. They have to take two hours just for makeup from the painted on eyebrows and getting the clothes matched perfect to compete, to some they just can't hang so they don't show, Dominican women have pride. Trolling the barrios I have noticed that the women I meet at the neighborhood Colmados aren't extravagant but have that basic beauty. They don't mind coming to my hotel on the outskirts of Boca Chica in sneakers or a basic body fitting dress (never heels) and open toe flat shoes. No way would they show up on a date in SD with a new gringo in sneakers. It's about the appearance of status in SD, and being worthy.

Also the venue where its presented is important. I know SD girls that hustle on the strip in Boca Chica that if you first saw them in SD wouldn't give you the time of day. Their mode of operation changes from fuck, to playing hard to get, maybe they view gringos in SD as easy prey so why not go for the max without give little in return. Just like we view SD as a bigger city with more girls, they have the view that if you are there you are easy prey. La capitol has game so the women play their role.

Know the city and you know the attitude, SD girls have game because its a hustle city. San Pedro girls are hot and have no hustle so they come to fuck. Santiago girls are beautiful and feel privileged. Puerto plata girls are want to bees so they are game. Sosua girls are business so you pay for a service. La Vega, Moca girls fuck but they want a gringo supporter while playing the country girl role. San Cristobal, Bani have the sleepers who are looking for a better life and don't know gringos. You can write your own ticket in the DR, but if you are lazy and want it easy you are better served in Sosua and Boca Chica.

A smartphone with Whattsapp and google (talking) translator now makes it even easier for in-person interviews. Aye carumba I didn't know I was promoted to Big Dog. Aroooooooooof! Signed, Santo Domingo Gringo.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2038976]With language skills it is easier to just pull women from almost any venue you happen to be in. You can speak directly to them and being here on the ground always trumps some character talking to them on the internet.

Santo Domingo is for Big Dogs. How does that saying go again? If you can't run with the Big Dogs stay on your porch in Sosua or Boca Chica. LOL![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Forest;2039530]I speak fluent Spanish, by the way. But the volume of the music in the Ave Venezuela area was so loud when I went last Thursday, conversation was out of the question. I have been to the DR about 20 times, and my most reliable chicas are girls I met on the internet. But these usually take a few days to cultivate. Perhaps I should stick to the casas when I find myself unexpectedly without a girl at night (this happened on Friday due to an unexpected no show).[/QUOTE]If you speak fluent Spanish you don't have to be like them (the sexual tourists that have been coming here for years but don't have any real language skills). You have the skills to operate at a higher level. Be a man in the arena!

Mr. Forest, had you gone right around the corner from all the bars on Venezuela Avenue you could have started your evening at Andres by having a drink and checking out the talent and then headed right across the street to the happening sports bar. Or rolled out in a taxi (or Uber) and headed to a club in a different part of the city (hit me via PM for the name and location). It has "pay for play" girls up in that club. It's not strictly for that and with your language skills you don't have to worry about making a mistake because you can communicate with the girls. One of my boys pulled a "OMFG" stone cold 10 out of there and had a great time with her. You could have gone to Andy's Sports Bar on Avenida Espana (a 200 peso cab ride from Zona Colonial and even less in Uber) where all the waitresses are available for take out. So be careful who you take advice from when it comes to Santo Domingo and the type of women available here.

If you hang out in the barrio then all you are going to find are barrio girls. If you roll down Churchill during lunch time and take a look at the girls moving around on the street taking care of business you might get a different idea of the variety that can be found in the city. If you goto Galleria 360, Agora, Acropolis, or put on player clothes and flaunt your swag in Blue Mall you might get a different view of the types of girls available in Santo Domingo. If you go into any bank in Santo Domingo you will find 70% smoking hot women working there and the other ones were hot in their day but were good employees and they kept them on to provide some institutional stability. If walk around near the USAD or APEC (I attended classes there) at Mexico and Maximo Gomez and check out girls attending university you will see things differently. If you get out of your comfort zone and take a ride on the metro you will see girls headed to work, headed to school, headed out to run errands.

The history of Santo Domingo? As written and experienced by whom? One week millionaires with a countdown timer until wheels up, a pocket full of rubbers, and unwillingness to spend a peso on a girl unless they are fucking her? The history I read about here is not the city I know. It's not the city I live in. And it's not the city that a half dozen of my boys visit and enjoy. Know the city and know the attitude. Good advice in general. But not possible when you show up to "la capital" with blinders on. Not possible if you never venture out of the barrio. Not possible if you are not willing to spend a peso on a woman unless you are fucking her at that very moment. When you are evaluating the girls available anywhere with that sort of attitude it's called stereotyping. When you project opinions and personal biases onto a entire class of girls it's called being narrow minded.

Santo Domingo is not hard. But you better have your high performance rating and be able to operate in Class A airspace if that's what you are looking for. Better have quick reflexes and know your terrain if you plan to fly nap of the earth. Great aviators and pussy hunters know what they are about to get into if at all possible before they get into it.

May the pussy be with you!

[QUOTE=Forest;2039530]I have been to the DR about 20 times, and my most reliable chicas are girls I met on the internet. But these usually take a few days to cultivate. Perhaps I should stick to the casas when I find myself unexpectedly without a girl at night (this happened on Friday due to an unexpected no show).[/QUOTE]I don't know if I have been to a place where the adage "failing to plan is planning to fail" holds more than it does in DR. I have written many times that you do not go there depending on one girl. You better have 5 or 6 lined up. Tell all of them that you will see them on Saturday or whatever day you will be there, but do not give a time. Of course you will have to know their schedule as far as work or whatever. But if your first choice does not show then move on to the next and work your way down the line. So what if you don't get to some. Tell them something came up the same way they would tell you. Then save them for next time.

Men in the arena know that critics don't count! I don't have anyone on my ignore list. Screen shot of my settings attached to prove it. But I do have people that I ignore in real life. The post that is critical of me and contains no information about Santo Domingo is an example of why I ignore the person in real life. It's like a mortar round. It's inaccurate. But effective on unshielded targets. Unfortunately for him, I'm not one of them. Is the information I provide to this forum inaccurate? If so then correct me. If not then let's get back to the purpose of this forum:

"To facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women".

Actually 500 DOP at today's exchange rate of 47.2 DOP = 1 USD is 10.60 USD.

For that kind a money I can take a girl out to the "corte de comida" (court of food) in the barrio behind my apartment building (the one with the ocean view). That's what the Dominicans call it. It's seven different sidewalk vendors that have set up shop to serve the demand of those that live here (no one week millionaires in sight). I have to go at night as my favorite place does not even get going until 8 PM. The order taker there is cutie. Very pretty face, needs to loose a few pounds and no ass. She would do in a pinch, but more in a catch and release manner. But she's untouchable. She has the goods on me. She always gives me this one raised eyebrow look when I show up with a new girl. Even though I'm a good customer and I'm there once or twice a week I can't afford to get on her bad side. LOL!

She does not speak any English (but no one there does) my Spanish although not fluent is great. I'm at the point where I can communicate just fine at almost any level except in a serious legal situation. In fact have have many laughs with the Dominican residents of my building about how quickly I've become accomplished speaking their language. I always tell them it's because I've taken Spanish language classes at APEC, that I live here so it's important to speak their language and since I've been immersed in their language that has made me move the the next level where I am now thinking in Spanish. They are impressed!

My date and I sit on the sidewalk in plastic chairs, pull up a little plastic table and grab a presidente from the colmado next door. We then proceed to enjoy our food, drink, music and general ambiance. We eat and drink to our hearts content. And we can do it all for less than 500 DOP. Now, I have them come over in Uber and meet me at my apartment building. Then I fire up the Gran Jefe mobile (which by the way uses diesel fuel quite efficiently given the size of the vehicle). We roll up into the spot and enjoy our evening. The next morning, I don't have to enjoy my ocean view alone. I often have any number of different 20 something girls having coffee at my table naked and enjoying my 1 million USD ocean view with me.

It's a lot of fun to run around with girls that are comfortable in their tennis or open toed flats, but can also dress up, put on their make up, break out the heels and head across the river with you to Acropolis or Blue Mall and grab a bite to eat over there. Or hop in a Uber with you and head to a movie on the Malcon on discount movie night. Another sub 500 DOP night out (by the way). Why Uber? Because the traffic and parking on the malecon can be quite difficult and I actually hate driving in Santo Domingo.

This is Santo Domingo. But it does give you an idea of the value of a peso if you live here. Of course, if you are one week millionaire sexual tourist, 500 DOP might not matter to you all that much. You might just have the mentality that you don't want to spend it anyway unless it is directly related to having sex with the girl you are with at that very moment.

The Urban Dictionary defines player: A male who is skilled at manipulating ("playing") others, and especially at seducing women by pretending to care about them, when in reality they are only interested in sex. By this definition everybody posting on this board is a player. But we (the readership) are quite fortunate that only a few are critics.

If you must hate. Then don't hate player, hate the game!

I lived in SD for nearly two months. Here is a quick summary for newbies.

It's by no means comprehensive, but enough to get you started.

I was frustrated at the lack of centralised information online when I arrived, so hopefully this helps any newbie punters in the Caribbean Capital.

Casas.

Many are closed. Here are my reviews of those still in operation.

Casa Azul. My favourite. Hot chicas, great service and solid manager. Great place to call a local.

Casa Theresa. Hot women, but at a price. The manager is the kind of guy you'd say "see you Next Tuesday" to. Horrendous attempts at overcharging and odd demands for tips. I did meet a couple of sweeties here though. You just need to stand firm.

Strip Clubs.

Most are now gone.

Foxy's in my view is a dump, and the women when I went were atrocious.

Several doors down is a better option with better vibe.

Freelancers.

VIP Room. I lived across the road from here and pulled many from here. One in particular negra from San Pedro de Macoris is a firecracker.

Casinos. I met my reg in Jaragua. Some nice ladies there. Even the staff may be up for grabs.

Online.

Badoo is full of Chapiadoras (their uniform and MO becomes apparent after a while).

Dominican Cupid. Most widely used. Make sure you video chat with these women before any real commitment of time / resources takes place. Goes for all online activity.

Almost all women I met online wanted some kind of $$ benefit out of hanging out / fucking. Normally it was ordering Pizza Hut plus a bit of "salon' money, yet these were the least complicated arrangements.

Non Pros.

Malls and Universities are king here.

Agora was my favourite.

Dominicans will *almost* always respond politely to your approach. Western style ***** shields don't exist here. You just need to pique their interest enough to get a number or take them out there and then.

Areas.

Gascue and Avenida Pasteur. The best days here are long gone. I visited only one casa here, it may have been the only one still open, non the less it was terrible.

Zona Universidad. My pick for the west side. I got all my numbers here, and met WLs in the hood.

Piantini. Great infrastructure, but very posh and the women there are tough.

Zona Colonial. Hot women walking up and down El Conde. Some are working, others are still open to opportunities.

Transport.

Uber here is better than most cities in the region, and your best bet here.

[QUOTE=AussieStiffler;2043966]I lived in SD for nearly two months. Here is a quick summary for newbies.
Non Pros.

Malls and Universities are king here.

Agora was my favourite.

Dominicans will *almost* always respond politely to your approach. Western style ***** shields don't exist here. You just need to pique their interest enough to get a number or take them out there and then.

Areas.

Gascue and Avenida Pasteur. The best days here are long gone. I visited only one casa here, it may have been the only one still open, non the less it was terrible..[/QUOTE]Straight man in the arena report there mate! And dovetails exactly with my personal experiences. Excellent format and content. I enjoyed hanging out with you in Mega Centro and rolling large in the Gran Jefe mobile through "mi barrio" and the surrounding areas of Santo Domingo este. Thanks for giving me the straight scoop on Uber. That service is a excellent new tool in my transportation tool box.

Unfortunately, this is my last day of living in Santo Domingo. But it was a hell of a run. And far from being boring having a harem that gives a damn about you as human being was far from boring. I don't have a single complaint about my sexual encounters here. No problems with lack of BBBJ or women showing up with stanking pussies. Travelled all over this island and had an absolute blast! I even had a great time in the puta pueblos of Sosua and Boca Chica. When I get more time I'll be using my user blog to reflect and share further adventures and experiences that I didn't have time to write about while I was in the arena.

Because we know: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat".

May the pussy be with you. Always!

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2044117]Straight man in the arena report there mate! And dovetails exactly with my personal experiences. Excellent format and content. I enjoyed hanging out with you in Mega Centro and rolling large in the Gran Jefe mobile through "mi barrio" and the surrounding areas of Santo Domingo este. Thanks for giving me the straight scoop on Uber. That service is a excellent new tool in my transportation tool box.

Unfortunately, this is my last day of living in Santo Domingo. But it was a hell of a run. And far from being boring having a harem that gives a damn about you as human being was far from boring. I don't have a single complaint about my sexual encounters here. No problems with lack of BBBJ or women showing up with stanking pussies. Travelled all over this island and had an absolute blast! I even had a great time in the puta pueblos of Sosua and Boca Chica. When I get more time I'll be using my user blog to reflect and share further adventures and experiences that I didn't have time to write about while I was in the arena.

Because we know: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat".

May the pussy be with you. Always![/QUOTE]Man I did not know you were like leaving leaving.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2030556]Hey. That may very well be the case. Nothing has changed. Nelly is the best![/QUOTE]Hi, After I read your post I decided to give Nelly a try. But my only concern is. Will they try to force me to buy additional insurance? What's your experience with them regarding additional insurance?

I would be very surprised if they don't at least try. My advice is to reserve with another agency as a back up. You can also call in advance and confirm the conditions.

[QUOTE=CoronaVIP;2045210]Hi, After I read your post I decided to give Nelly a try. But my only concern is. Will they try to force me to buy additional insurance? What's your experience with them regarding additional insurance?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CoronaVIP;2045210]Hi, After I read your post I decided to give Nelly a try. But my only concern is. Will they try to force me to buy additional insurance? What's your experience with them regarding additional insurance?[/QUOTE]Yes they will definitely try because that is how they make their money. They do not make anything off those rentals. Just tell them that your credit card carries the insurance and you always do it that way. If you have any doubt then call your credit card company in advance to find out their policy.

It's been awhile since I've hit the nightclub there at Jaragua (or is it the hotel next door?) where the freelancers hang out. How's the scene there now?

I know the Ave Pasteur bars are pretty dead if I'm not mistaken. Jaragua worth going to?

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2046766]It's been awhile since I've hit the nightclub there at Jaragua (or is it the hotel next door?) where the freelancers hang out. How's the scene there now?

I know the Ave Pasteur bars are pretty dead if I'm not mistaken. Jaragua worth going to?[/QUOTE]I visited both Sheraton disco and Jaragua merengue bar by mid March. Sheraton disco was closed for remodeling but should be open now. I visited Jaragua merengue bar twice, on Thursday and Saturday. I seated by the bar with 22 ladies. 20 of them were pretty and ranking high, better talent that any casa. I was impressed by a lady wearing large glasses with long curly black hair. These ladies usually ask 6000 pesos, sometimes more so it was not my intention to take her to my room. Not for that $. I took a picture to the lady and went out of the place for a couple of minutes. I came back and walked directly to her and asked: will you marry me? She smiled and I continued: you look exactly like the girl of my dreams, in fact I have a picture of the woman I have always dreamed and I am going to show you. She laughed hard when she saw the picture I previously took to her. I invited her to dance merengue and we danced merengue. I told her I love bachata but I do not know to dance so I asked and show me how to dance. She must be my 30th bachata teacher, LOL. It always work to create great bonding with the lady. She offered her services but I told her I do not see her that way, that she is the kind of lady I want to see everyday. I gave her my number and said goodbye. She called me just when I enter to my Riazor hotel room and asked if she can visit me. A friendly visit? Ok. She came and became extremely friendly. Once again she made a $ offer, I told her I was short of cash because I arrived that day. She accepted my small monetary offer and a promise the date with her next day. She got naked and wow I ranked her as my second 10 girl I have had in DR.

I also visited Merengue bar Saturday but it was full of people and the talent was not as good as on Thursday.

Thanks for the information! 6000 for the pro's at Jaragua is steep IMO as well. Got to love the price increases the last couple years!

Some of those girls in the Jaragua Merengue Bar think they are in Las Vegas. LOL!

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2048302]I visited both Sheraton disco and Jaragua merengue bar by mid March. Sheraton disco was closed for remodeling but should be open now. I visited Jaragua merengue bar twice, on Thursday and Saturday. I seated by the bar with 22 ladies. 20 of them were pretty and ranking high, better talent that any casa. I was impressed by a lady wearing large glasses with long curly black hair. These ladies usually ask 6000 pesos, sometimes more so it was not my intention to take her to my room. Not for that $. I took a picture to the lady and went out of the place for a couple of minutes. I came back and walked directly to her and asked: will you marry me? She smiled and I continued: you look exactly like the girl of my dreams, in fact I have a picture of the woman I have always dreamed and I am going to show you. She laughed hard when she saw the picture I previously took to her. I invited her to dance merengue and we danced merengue. I told her I love bachata but I do not know to dance so I asked and show me how to dance. She must be my 30th bachata teacher, LOL. It always work to create great bonding with the lady. She offered her services but I told her I do not see her that way, that she is the kind of lady I want to see everyday. I gave her my number and said goodbye. She called me just when I enter to my Riazor hotel room and asked if she can visit me. A friendly visit? Ok. She came and became extremely friendly. Once again she made a $ offer, I told her I was short of cash because I arrived that day. She accepted my small monetary offer and a promise the date with her next day. She got naked and wow I ranked her as my second 10 girl I have had in DR.

I also visited Merengue bar Saturday but it was full of people and the talent was not as good as on Thursday.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2048302]I visited both Sheraton disco and Jaragua merengue bar by mid March. I was impressed by a lady wearing large glasses with long curly black hair. These ladies usually ask 6000 pesos, sometimes more so it was not my intention to take her to my room. Not for that $. I took a picture to the lady and went out of the place for a couple of minutes. I came back and walked directly to her and asked: will you marry me? She smiled and I continued: you look exactly like the girl of my dreams, in fact I have a picture of the woman I have always dreamed and I am going to show you. She laughed hard when she saw the picture I previously took to her. I invited her to dance merengue and we danced merengue. I told her I love bachata but I do not know to dance so I asked and show me how to dance. She must be my 30th bachata teacher, LOL. It always work to create great bonding with the lady. She offered her services but I told her I do not see her that way, that she is the kind of lady I want to see everyday. I gave her my number and said goodbye. She called me just when I enter to my Riazor hotel room and asked if she can visit me. A friendly visit? Ok. She came and became extremely friendly. Once again she made a $ offer, I told her I was short of cash because I arrived that day. She accepted my small monetary offer and a promise the date with her next day. She got naked and wow I ranked her as my second 10 girl I have had in DR.[/QUOTE]Now this is an example of game in action. Straight man in the arena report!

6 k pesos is a lot of money for a 3rd world country but I am sure that is what they are asking for. I like the place but have never seen any action in the place the times I was there. I enjoy dancing and gambling so it is a good option. I usually take a date when I go there. The weekend is when the action kicks off. I did not see free lancers when I was there. There plenty Dominican couple enjoying the seen. As a monger it was not really my element /.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2048302]I visited both Sheraton disco and Jaragua merengue bar by mid March. Sheraton disco was closed for remodeling but should be open now. I visited



Jaragua merengue bar twice, on Thursday and Saturday. I seated by the bar with 22 ladies. 20 of them were pretty and ranking high, better talent that any casa. I was impressed by a lady wearing large glasses with long curly black hair. These ladies usually ask 6000 pesos, sometimes more so it was not my intention to take her to my room. Not for that $. I took a picture to the lady and went out of the place for a couple of minutes. I came back and walked directly to her and asked: will you marry me? She smiled and I continued: you look exactly like the girl of my dreams, in fact I have a picture of the woman I have always dreamed and I am going to show you. She laughed hard when she saw the picture I previously took to her. I invited her to dance merengue and we danced merengue. I told her I love bachata but I do not know to dance so I asked and show me how to dance. She must be my 30th bachata teacher, LOL. It always work to create great bonding with the lady. She offered her services but I told her I do not see her that way, that she is the kind of lady I want to see everyday. I gave her my number and said goodbye. She called me just when I enter to my Riazor hotel room and asked if she can visit me. A friendly visit? Ok. She came and became extremely friendly. Once again she made a $ offer, I told her I was short of cash because I arrived that day. She accepted my small monetary offer and a promise the date with her next day. She got naked and wow I ranked her as my second 10 girl I have had in DR.

I also visited Merengue bar Saturday but it was full of people and the talent was not as good as on Thursday.[/QUOTE]

Hey fellas,

I'm staying an extra night in SD after spending the weekend with my non-pro girl. Looking to find a good place to stay the night where I can do some convenient mongering. Would love something in walking distance or no more than a 5-10 min cab ride. High end accommodations are not important, safety and A / C are. As well, I'm willing to spend at most 5000 pesos for an overnight with a curvy, beautiful stunner (8-10), Venezuelan or Dominican, doesn't matter. Would love to be near a place with 20+ girls to choose from. The bad part is, it will be a Monday night! Please help. If anyone can provide the link to an overview of the SD mongering scene, I can probably figure things out on my own but I haven't had any luck finding "the list" or any maps.

Thanks!

Rodeo.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2049069]Hey fellas,

I'm staying an extra night in SD after spending the weekend with my non-pro girl. Looking to find a good place to stay the night where I can do some convenient mongering. Would love something in walking distance or no more than a 5-10 min cab ride. High end accommodations are not important, safety and A / C are. As well, I'm willing to spend at most 5000 pesos for an overnight with a curvy, beautiful stunner (8-10), Venezuelan or Dominican, doesn't matter. Would love to be near a place with 20+ girls to choose from. The bad part is, it will be a Monday night! Please help. If anyone can provide the link to an overview of the SD mongering scene, I can probably figure things out on my own but I haven't had any luck finding "the list" or any maps.

Thanks!

Rodeo.[/QUOTE]Google Greater Santo Domingo mongering map its a little outdated but some places are still open. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2049069]Hey fellas,

I'm staying an extra night in SD after spending the weekend with my non-pro girl. Looking to find a good place to stay the night where I can do some convenient mongering. Would love something in walking distance or no more than a 5-10 min cab ride. High end accommodations are not important, safety and A / C are. As well, I'm willing to spend at most 5000 pesos for an overnight with a curvy, beautiful stunner (8-10), Venezuelan or Dominican, doesn't matter. Would love to be near a place with 20+ girls to choose from. The bad part is, it will be a Monday night! Please help. If anyone can provide the link to an overview of the SD mongering scene, I can probably figure things out on my own but I haven't had any luck finding "the list" or any maps.

Thanks!

Rodeo.[/QUOTE]If you have any luck on a good apartment let me know. I am looking for August and checking all sites.

[QUOTE=Cbear13;2053321]If you have any luck on a good apartment let me know. I am looking for August and checking all sites.[/QUOTE]Hotel Villa Capri, autopista de las americas km32, #34. Excellent. Large 2 bedroom apartment (2 kings) for $60 per night, available via Airbnb. Italian manager with Haitian girlfriend. Very nice people. Air, full kitchen, comfortable beds. Handy for airport and 10 minutes walk to Boca Chica beaches.

[QUOTE=Frannie;2053647]Hotel Villa Capri, autopista de las americas km32, #34. Excellent. Large 2 bedroom apartment (2 kings) for $60 per night, available via Airbnb. Italian manager with Haitian girlfriend. Very nice people. Air, full kitchen, comfortable beds. Handy for airport and 10 minutes walk to Boca Chica beaches.[/QUOTE]Just blow up my spot why don't you LOL. Mostly correct info except Italian owner / manager whose lovely lawyer wife is Dominican. Good hotel, very clean and secure. Not near the strip though and one bedrooms for 50 usd.

Frannie have you been creeping to Boca Chica? Enjoy brother.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;2053662]Just blow up my spot why don't you LOL. Mostly correct info except Italian owner / manager whose lovely lawyer wife is Dominican. Good hotel, very clean and secure. Not near the strip though and one bedrooms for 50 usd.

Frannie have you been creeping to Boca Chica? Enjoy brother.[/QUOTE]Oh, well, the Kreyol-speaking receptionist is gorgeous and carried my large suitcase down the marble staircase in her high heels, so maybe she is not the girlfriend, unless the girlfriend is Haitian-Dominican.

In town this weekend for a few hours and asked Henry at Club Chica to set me up. Always an excellent recommendation.

Luna met me at the appointed location by taxi and then directed the driver off to one of the city's nicer cabanas. The photos of her on ClubChica appear to all be taken at Costa Azul. They are current and do a great job of representing her, but when I turned around after coming out of the bathroom she was ready to rock. She's a tiny thing, not a spinner, and her thighs are not as thick as seen in her photos, and her breasts were a little larger with the sexiest two-inch dark Latina aerola I love. There is no rush with her visit. When I patted the bed she came over and laid down and started some of the hottest DFK I've had in a long, long time. She has a small pointy tongue that I discovered has other uses later. But this girl can kiss, loves it, and is involved to make this a full GFE experience. We caressed and just toyed for the longest time before I rolled her over on her back and went to dinner. Loves it and whimpered and pushed her hips away from me when she got off. That was a mistake folks. She pushed me over on my back and gave one of the best BBBJs I've had in some time. She clearly knows what she's doing. My other reviews detail my war injuries and effect on performance, but she got me so excited I put on a hat and had her crawl aboard. An incredible view and fantastic hip control. Regretfully I can't finish this way, but will share she brought me incredibly close. When she felt I was going soft on her she unhesitatingly tried to suck me hard and remounted. But after awhile I motioned to her to BBBJCIM. Luna has great hand and mouth coordination, and although I would not say she DTs, she will on occasion cram that cock back in her throat just for a second teasing you. When she began to feel I was having trouble and wouldn't finish she stopped and pulled out some kind of menthol candy, popped it in her mouth and went after me again. She produced an incredible amount of spit and sensation of varying hot and cold hit home in a short time. No hesitation, just kept on going for another two minutes. We agreed to go clean-up, and as soon as she saw an opportunity knelt in front of me and sucked some more. Hell, we went back to the bed for some 69 action, a lot of unlimited finger play until I rolled her over and dined some more. After we just laid in bed and cuddled which I discovered she loves as much as sex. When Luna's hot, she's the epitome of the MILF bad girl sex pistol who hasn't seen her man for a few weeks. And wants to fuck.

I definitely will try to visit again or maybe she'll come to me. Nothing is off limits with this hot little sex machine. Next time we'll try the Egyptian setee or love chair.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;2053662]Just blow up my spot why don't you LOL. Mostly correct info except Italian owner / manager whose lovely lawyer wife is Dominican. Good hotel, very clean and secure. Not near the strip though and one bedrooms for 50 usd.

Frannie have you been creeping to Boca Chica? Enjoy brother.[/QUOTE]The both of you are blowing up my spot. The two bedroom is just what the doctor ordered for me.

Hi everyone,

New to the site, and this is my first post. I have been scrolling through this thread because I am wanting to go to Santo Domingo in late September (first trip to DR) and the only reason I came really going is because of what I've heard about the women there! Forgive me I'm not up on the shorthand and codes you guys use here, so I was hoping someone could give me some advice and tips on the following subjects:

Best hotel or accommodations to stay in that are nice but not expensive and will not have problems with girls coming over.

Best ways to find quality women (areas of town or websites?

What to expect to SP me so I can budget properly.

Also I'm a heavy weed smoker so hoping there is easy access to that as well.

Any advice is much appreciated.

Sosua is the place you want to go. There will be scores of guys doing the same thing as you and 100's of girls waiting for you. You do not need much Spanish and almost every women is selling pussy. Santo Domingo for newbies is very challenging. Spanish is almost a requirement. There is no central area for picking up women. Read the Sosua forum to get an understanding of the lay of the land. Sosua the hold town caters to guys looking for chicas. There are also a each and great places to eat all in walking distance. As for weed penalties in the DR are severe. you will need to be cautious should choose to use. Never the less everything is available just be careful

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2062653]Hi everyone,

New to the site, and this is my first post. I have been scrolling through this thread because I am wanting to go to Santo Domingo in late September (first trip to DR) and the only reason I came really going is because of what I've heard about the women there! Forgive me I'm not up on the shorthand and codes you guys use here, so I was hoping someone could give me some advice and tips on the following subjects:

Best hotel or accommodations to stay in that are nice but not expensive and will not have problems with girls coming over.

Best ways to find quality women (areas of town or websites?

What to expect to SP me so I can budget properly.

Also I'm a heavy weed smoker so hoping there is easy access to that as well.

Any advice is much appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2062653]Hi everyone,

New to the site, and this is my first post. I have been scrolling through this thread because I am wanting to go to Santo Domingo in late September (first trip to DR) and the only reason I came really going is because of what I've heard about the women there! Forgive me I'm not up on the shorthand and codes you guys use here, so I was hoping someone could give me some advice and tips on the following subjects:

Best hotel or accommodations to stay in that are nice but not expensive and will not have problems with girls coming over.

Best ways to find quality women (areas of town or websites?

What to expect to SP me so I can budget properly.


Also I'm a heavy weed smoker so hoping there is easy access to that as well.

Any advice is much appreciated.[/QUOTE]I don't like to post here as to all the naysayers I'm due in Santo Domingo Sept 30 thru Oct 11 so I you want to meet up PM me. As to Sosua Hes right Its a monger town but Be careful as most hotels have armed guards at night due to crime. You really need a wing man in this town. I have no problems with not speaking Spanish in Santo Domingo. Spent 7 days in Sosua in June and got laid every day. Quality not as good but beaches better. I also rent a car so I can go to some other places.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2055638]The both of you are blowing up my spot. The two bedroom is just what the doctor ordered for me.[/QUOTE]I prefer the two bedrooms apartments also. I like to have one to use with my main chicas where I keep my stuff and a second one for the new chicas. Last time I was in BC I shared a two-bedroom apartment but next time I go back I'll get one to myself again.

NOTE: Before anyone goes in on me about Boca, I like that little chit hole, trashy, crappy and whatever else you want to say about it place. I went to school in southeast DC and now live in the burbs I miss the "hood" that DC was back in the 80's and 90's. I also have some real winners there that can keep me off the streets if I want them too.

Hmm but I may have to check out that hotel too. I usually stay at Parco Del Caribe. About the same price, close to the strip, and almost too chica friendly, as in they let one up who I had seen a couple of times. Ahh no bruh if I don't bring her in don't let her up!

Where you at Old Kool? Me and my chocolate nurse blowing up your spot. About to head back to the Jaragua and handle some thangs.

I am wifed up and lovng it. I plan to be at 29ub jaraqua casino 12 pm. Give a pm will be in sambil in after noon. Did 2 days in sosua already same girl. She talking giving up culo. Having a new girl to night.

What is the best casino to go if want to play some blackjack and also to pick up some chicas while in SD?

I just realized I will be in SD the night of the Mayweather fight, where would be a great place to watch?

If anyone in SD Aug 25-28th and would like to meet up let me know.

On the ground in Santo Domingo. Does anyone know where Pink Lounge is in Malecon Center? Went by there yesterday and know one could point me in the right direction.

[QUOTE=BigAzzLuvr;2066289]On the ground in Santo Domingo. Does anyone know where Pink Lounge is in Malecon Center? Went by there yesterday and know one could point me in the right direction.[/QUOTE]I think Boricua mentioned that their retail location is closed? Try calling the cell phone number. The owner may still be able to hook you up.

I was there Friday night. I had a great time. A long with the casino there is nice disco with live entertainment on the weekend. I had a.

Date so I was not trolling. I won 9000 pesos playing black jack. My date and I dancef anf played. We had a good time . I stayed at Tau casa conde for 44 bucks this includes a complete breakfast. The place is 100 feet from Pecos. The street walkers on Conde appeared beat. I did have some success with massage girls. 2 were attractive and ready to go back to my room. Both performed very well. 1500 or 2000 peso works fine.

It's long gone. I don't doubt the little blonde still works but why burn time looking for her?

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;2066423]I think Boricua mentioned that their retail location is closed? Try calling the cell phone number. The owner may still be able to hook you up.[/QUOTE]

Sheraton and Jaragua, you'll find some of those same girls up at the Princess on weeknights.

[QUOTE=Newbie911;2066007]What is the best casino to go if want to play some blackjack and also to pick up some chicas while in SD?

I just realized I will be in SD the night of the Mayweather fight, where would be a great place to watch?

If anyone in SD Aug 25-28th and would like to meet up let me know.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;2066423]I think Boricua mentioned that their retail location is closed? Try calling the cell phone number. The owner may still be able to hook you up.[/QUOTE]If you whatsapp her she will come up with some ideas. But it used to be upatairs on the second floor to the left. It was just a small hole in the wall with a red light.

Its funny but I decided to take a road trip, even if it was only 30 minutes up the road LOL. Left Boca Chica and and caught the gua gua to Zona Colonial and checked into a one bedroom loft apartment a half block from El Conde for 59 usd a night (Airnb). New nice laid out place with six private units, gated, laundry room, exercise room and wifi with cable.

Went down to Romas (el Conde and Durate) and hangout with the expats for awhile talking shit. About six pm hit Boricua online up for directions to GPB and told my girl from La Caleta (by the airport overpass) to meet me on el conde at 9 pm.

Caught a taxi to GPB and had a beer for 200 pesos. Lucy a tall blonde with a nice body came over to talk. It was three Dominicans there and about 5 girls. Oh shit! I remember one of these girls ate Mr E asshole so I text him the name to make sure I don't get her. Lucy passed the ass breath test and off we went. For some reason I couldn't really enjoy the experience because I couldn't suck breasts and eat pussy knowing these girls reputation. Basically quick suck, strap up and stroke. For 1200 pesos.

Went to the crib to get ready for Anna from La Caleta. My boy is bouncer at club "Sparta" in Bella vista (Churchill and Sarasota across from Mcdonalds) so we went there. Damn, the honeys were out and looking good. These were upscale girls or at least they were playing the role. Dj was jamming old school hip hop and Spanish music. Dinner for two with a couple drinks came to 1400 pesos. Really nice place but everybody was more concerned about looking good than socializing and fucking. I will go back soon.

Hit the corner out door restaurant on el conde by the park and settled in for a couple Cuba Libres. They closed at midnight so we were walking home and came upon club 'ONO' off the side of el Conde. Free entrance and the DJ was the best I've heard in a while. It took me about an hour to figure out this place as I watched the couples dance and even fucked up a couple songs myself, really good time. Then I noticed the girls who are with guys were now freelance dancing and a couple of the guy were dancing together. Two girls even slid up to me and Ana to dance which she wasn't having. OK, I get it now; The girls were just out with friends to drink and dance but now they were tipsy and horny and wanted to fuck but these guys couldn't help them. I tapped into a goldmine and couldn't even take advantage of it.

We partied as I watched these hot sweaty horny girls dancing around trying to find legit dick. Stayed there till 4 am and had the time of my life with Ana.

We went to Pacos on the west end of el conde as it was the only thing opened. Ana wanted to sober up with cafe so she could do some fucking later but I've had like five Cuba libres and have no plans to fuck tonight, maybe I will catch her with a morning hard on which I did. At Pacos late and the scene is getting weird. A fat American was talking to us from the next table then ten minutes later four dudes were at his table acting very different. The same two hookers I saw walking el conde when I arrived earlier in the day were still working looking tired and raggedy. Ana said lets get out of here and we walked the two blocks home.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2066430]It's long gone. I don't doubt the little blonde still works but why burn time looking for her?[/QUOTE]She is still working and have girls available, she gets a commision for referrals. She sends pictures so you can choose if you want any.

After spending a few days in Sosua I rolled into SD with a chica who spent 3 days in Sosua with me. I sent her on her way because I had a long term chica coming. A vew hours later I get a call that she will not show. In Sd always have a backup plan. I am enjoying walking up and down El Conde. I see all the touts and hustlers I have seen for many years. They are in the same exact spots with the same hustles. I guess I am slow because I never realized the massage girls all will go back to your room and give you full service. I met several and they were young and attractive. I brought one back before leaving for the airport. She was outstanding. Giving happy endings all day is great training. I hit one SW at 1 am. She was slim, attractive and wore out. She showered and got a good massage from me. She gave a very decent performance. She made noise and did a good job. She did try to angle for more money to no avail.

My back up plan turned out to be a referral from DR chica living in the US. When she learned I was in the DR she said she had a friend for me. Made the calls and at 8 pm she shows up to Pacos. She is built like a Georgia mule. I debated fucking or dating. So up to my room for a very hot session. She knew what to do with a penis. We were getting along so.

You got a taste of the real Paco's and it was bitter. LOL! FYI by far most businesses open after midnight in the Colonial Zone are LGBTQ, or Colmados servicing the customers on the way home from them.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;2066439]Its funny but I decided to take a road trip, even if it was only 30 minutes up the road LOL. Left Boca Chica and and caught the gua gua to Zona Colonial and checked into a one bedroom loft apartment a half block from El Conde for 59 usd a night (Airnb). New nice laid out place with six private units, gated, laundry room, exercise room and wifi with cable.

Went down to Romas (el Conde and Durate) and hangout with the expats for awhile talking shit. About six pm hit Boricua online up for directions to GPB and told my girl from La Caleta (by the airport overpass) to meet me on el conde at 9 pm.

Caught a taxi to GPB and had a beer for 200 pesos. Lucy a tall blonde with a nice body came over to talk. It was three Dominicans there and about 5 girls. Oh shit! I remember one of these girls ate Mr E asshole so I text him the name to make sure I don't get her. Lucy passed the ass breath test and off we went. For some reason I couldn't really enjoy the experience because I couldn't suck breasts and eat pussy knowing these girls reputation. Basically quick suck, strap up and stroke. For 1200 pesos.

Went to the crib to get ready for Anna from La Caleta. My boy is bouncer at club "Sparta" in Bella vista (Churchill and Sarasota across from Mcdonalds) so we went there. Damn, the honeys were out and looking good. These were upscale girls or at least they were playing the role. Dj was jamming old school hip hop and Spanish music. Dinner for two with a couple drinks came to 1400 pesos. Really nice place but everybody was more concerned about looking good than socializing and fucking. I will go back soon..[/QUOTE]

It's true, in fact I checked my whatsapp history and sure enough I have a message from her about two weeks ago with a chica photo attached asking if I want to meet her. So she is active just as you described.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2066460]She is still working and have girls available, she gets a commision for referrals. She sends pictures so you can choose if you want any.[/QUOTE]

I had this one on my last trip to Santo Domingo last year. Those anyone know if she is still working. Looking for her info. That I lost.

How was she. She has a great look. How much was she and how good?

[QUOTE=Cbear13;2067152]I had this one on my last trip to Santo Domingo last year. Those anyone know if she is still working. Looking for her info. That I lost.[/QUOTE]

She was worth every penny. She did everything in bed. Plus fun to spend time with. She was 150 for a hour.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2067330]How was she. She has a great look. How much was she and how good?[/QUOTE]

It never seem s amaze me how good pretty women can be in bed. I think we fall for the she is to cute to get down in bed. I have to admit some of best lays have been the prettiest.

[QUOTE=Cbear13;2067494]She was worth every penny. She did everything in bed. Plus fun to spend time with. She was 150 for a hour.[/QUOTE]

The whole scene in SD and other parts of DR is quite amazing to me that so many super sexy, beautiful 18+ women are so willing and passionate to be with a chubby old fart like me. Of course money is their motivation but as the Beatles said Can't Buy Me Love. Simply amazing lovers. The PI is similar and slimmer but these Dominicans are really hot and sexy, many of them dress to kill, awesome lovers real life pornographic fantasies. Ay yi yi! Viva la Republica Dominicana! It is boob heaven for an addict like me!

[QUOTE=OldKool;2067546]It never seem s amaze me how good pretty women can be in bed. I think we fall for the she is to cute to get down in bed. I have to admit some of best lays have been the prettiest.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Cbear13;2067494]She was worth every penny. She did everything in bed. Plus fun to spend time with. She was 150 for a hour.[/QUOTE]I hope you mean 150 pesos, but I doubt it. This is the Dominican Republic, not the West End of London.

I picked up a pretty chica on Saturday night. She stayed from midnight to 8 am, swept the floor (it did not need it), made the bed and breakfast. I gave her 500 pesos before she could name a price. I have no idea if she was happy with that price but she did not complain and said "see you again".

I am 77 years old, bald, with glasses. I am not fat but I am flabby. I cannot dance, do not have a car, and my Spanish (even after eight years here) is very limited, I am ashamed to say (partly because my hearing is less than 100%). You younger guys really should not be paying for it at all, apart from a few beers and maybe a meal (which offer mine refused).

US$150 is a crazy price for this country for all night, let alone for an hour. But thanks for posting the price. Most guys reporting wonderful experiences conveniently leave that part out.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2067778]You younger guys really should not be paying for it at all, apart from a few beers and maybe a meal (which offer mine refused).
US$150 is a crazy price for this country for all night, let alone for an hour. But thanks for posting the price. Most guys reporting wonderful experiences conveniently leave that part out.[/QUOTE]Exactly what I love about DR CP. I meet so many normal chicks that I do not need to pay, that when it comes time for P4P there is no way I would let that kind of dosh come into the equation.

I agree the price was high and I was not use to paying at all. I was just in the Philippines in May. And didn't pay for anything. But at that time. I was just struck by her beauty and body. I didn't mind paying for it. Most times I have a good amount already lined up with out P4P. But I had ran into her at the mall. I am young and not ugly looking at all. Plus I look Hispanic.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2067790]Exactly what I love about DR CP. I meet so many normal chicks that I do not need to pay, that when it comes time for P4P there is no way I would let that kind of dosh come into the equation.[/QUOTE]

So I been going through this all day. I have seen a lot of post of hotel and a few apartments. I been looking on Airbnb, and [URL]booking.com[/URL]. Still don't know which is the best places to go. I land in SD on Friday afternoon. First time there really looking to meet some guys to check things out with also.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2067778]I picked up a pretty chica on Saturday night. She stayed from midnight to 8 am, swept the floor (it did not need it), made the bed and breakfast. I gave her 500 pesos before she could name a price. I have no idea if she was happy with that price but she did not complain and said "see you again".
[/QUOTE]I recently had someone from Pto Pta visit me in Sosua and she made no attempt to make the bed. Left even the wet towel on the sofa which made me furious. In contrast I had another one from the same town, who set the bed right and everything in place before leaving in the morning. Does it say something about an individual or a culture, I wonder.

I typically pay 1000 pesos (even though I do bring gifts) and at times food is involved and at other times, not. In any case, just travel from Pto pta and back is a 100 peso deal (and perhaps a baby sitter is involved) and so I figure that 1000 is a sensible amount.

The wet towel on the sofa or even worse on the bed is confusing at first but the explanation is the girls do it to use the towels to keep warm until the last possible moment. They are not used to stepping out of a shower into air conditioning.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2069562]I recently had someone from Pto Pta visit me in Sosua and she made no attempt to make the bed. Left even the wet towel on the sofa which made me furious. In contrast I had another one from the same town, who set the bed right and everything in place before leaving in the morning. Does it say something about an individual or a culture, I wonder.

I typically pay 1000 pesos (even though I do bring gifts) and at times food is involved and at other times, not. In any case, just travel from Pto pta and back is a 100 peso deal (and perhaps a baby sitter is involved) and so I figure that 1000 is a sensible amount.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2069690]The wet towel on the sofa or even worse on the bed is confusing at first but the explanation is the girls do it to use the towels to keep warm until the last possible moment. They are not used to stepping out of a shower into air conditioning.[/QUOTE]Good one! Thanks for that perspective. Much appreciated.

After being accosted on George Washington by 3 street girls (one might have been a male) I worked my way past the taxi drivers up towards the Girls House or what ever is still open on that block. I went in and there were about 5 to greet me. I paid the exit fee and took Channel out with me and back to my room. After some initial awkwardness she got into the shower and was busy washing her crotch when I joined her. I think she was a little surprised but I was a little smelly from working all day. We dried off and made it into the bed and she was quick to try and speed things along. She tried for a BBBJ but I laid her down and feasted on her nipples. Now it was time for the condom and the oral show. She did work the shaft but she forgot about his two friends. She climbed on top for a while and then I moved her over to missionary. I grabbed the lube and we proceeded thru a few positions until I was ready to finish. I filled my magnum and as usual she was surprised by the Mucho Leche. A very small propina and she was out the door. I originally offered her a large tip for dos leche but we didn't really click and my AC wasn't that great. Very nice body considering she had a kid in May. I guess money is a strong incentive since my wife didn't fuck for nearly 18 months after our first kid.

No UBER reports, No airbnb reports just a nightly trip report.

[QUOTE=Cbear13;2069243]So I been going through this all day. I have seen a lot of post of hotel and a few apartments. I been looking on Airbnb, and [URL]booking.com[/URL]. Still don't know which is the best places to go. I land in SD on Friday afternoon. First time there really looking to meet some guys to check things out with also.[/QUOTE]Slightly confused, you say now first time there, but on 7-31-17 you posted that you were there last year and said you had a girl named Anne and posted pics of her saying you were looking for her.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;2070928]Slightly confused, you say now first time there, but on 7-31-17 you posted that you were there last year and said you had a girl named Anne and posted pics of her saying you were looking for her.[/QUOTE]Yes, I was here last year for only a couple days in the ramada hotel. The rest of my trip I was in punta cana.

My first visit was a few weeks ago, and o was it wonderful, Santo Domingo / Boca Chica / Juan Dolio. To think a mere 3 hours flight from the east coast and you are on in a lovely island with great beaches and nice people. I did the tour thing as I was in the capital, nice but clearly, it's a tourist trap although I did meet a few nice ladies who I am apparently their 'mi amor'.

My day was half spent getting acclimated to the monetary system and them by late night I ended up at a local bar drinking some presidente light. Now after being up for 18 hours and drinking I took my happy ass to sleep.

Day 2- The next day at the rental in Boca Chica my friend introduced me to a nice fellow who he trusts when he is in town, who would be my 'guide' for the next 2 days. So, I what's app him and he speaks pretty good English. That's a plus and we head off two towns or so over to Juan Dolio, now this place was filled with a lot of Russians and Italian which I found kind've usual but o well who am I to judge. More drinking by me and he say my friend you like beautiful girls? I reply does a bear shit in the woods. He did not get the joke so I said hell yes.

We ended up at a little place called the Kashamba bar. I turned into a fat kid in a candy store, eyes wide open and head on a swivel looking left, right and all around. A group of nice ladies came out from sitting on sofas and just all out relaxing to greet me. I was intrigued by a semi petite yet thick (slim thick) beauty. Reasonably prices to accompany my visit onsite and I was informed of the overnight rate of $110-140.

I thought to myself why pay for a short visit when I can go all night but, that will be for my future visit. Left the establishment $60 lighter and 1000 pesos lighter for the tip and the beers consumed (which like American bars have a surcharge price). All in all, it was worth the experience though, nice place and you have options.

Day 3- I did some relaxing and went to the Beach in Boca Chica. Nice beach with hard sand that you can walk on with shoes or barefoot without sinking in. As I am walking and enjoying my time everyone and their grandmother offers me something or tries to bring you to their restaurant, even with a no they still try to sell you on the product or establishment, that got annoying fast. As I made my way to one place for a drink I sat eating fried dough and ketchup. I won't be trying that again. I see a nice chocolate skinned beauty who ended up going by the name of Esmeralda, she smiles I smile back- don't want to be rude in someone's country.

She sits with me we have a drink and I tell her I am just visiting on vacation but she wants to see me later so we exchange whatspp, later comes and my faithful driver brings me pick her up later and we come back to the rental. Wow that was some good pussy, I gave her 500 pesos, she took 2 beers and I dropped her back home that night. I'm going to guess she was a prostitute on the beach not too sure, but she still messages me and hasn't asked for money or anything, just small talk of how I'm doing and when will she see me again.

Day 4- Now I am feeling nice and refreshed, on the day I am leaving went towards northern Santo Domingo for lunch before my flight as if going towards the us embassy and it looked like pussy paradise not sure if they were prostitutes or just like wearing very revealing clothes but on my return trip I will inquire about the area as I saw they are building new apartments in the area and it looked nice to be centrally located.

I got smart and walked thru the Sheraton lot so I could avoid the taxi drivers on the corner by the Crowne Plaza. There was lots of street action on the street near the Riazor. I made it back down to my favorite chica bar (closest to George Washington) and met a blond Brazilian named Sandy. Paid the exit fee and made it over to my hotel. No ID card so she used her passport. She was dressed like a tourist so I think her clothing and her passport made them think she was my wife since they didn't make a copy of her ID. We got up to the room and that's where the fun really started. We stripped each other and started with a standing CBJ by the bed. I think she was thinking I was going to be easy. Onto the bed we moved to missionary and I really started to go for it. At one point she grabbed an extra condom and stuck her finger into my ass to make me come. I moved to avoid it and moved to K9 and with the same rubber I stuck my thumb up her ass which always feels good for me. We were pumping along in K9 and out of the blue she pulled out my cock and positioned it into her for Greek. That's not my thing so after a few strokes I was back into her pussy. Midway she hit the bathroom and came back to bed. She changed condoms and I bent her over the side of the bed for more K9. I flipped her onto her back for more pounding in missionary. I finished with her feet behind her head. After my load I kept pumping to wind down. She was an excellent guest and I would consider a repeat. At the end she thanked me for the orgasms (BS Maybe? Small tip and she was out the door.

So I found my old friend from last year Anna number in my phone. Sent her a message on whatsapp and asked if she wanted to come over for Breakfast. She quickly said yes and head to my apartment. Paid 300 pesos for her taxi and we head up to my apartment. I love the fact I can bring girls in and don't even have to go past the front desk or past in families. Up stairs she quickly turned around and ask if I wanted her to cook breakfast. She cooked a good breakfast for us. Then she said she was tired and wanted to head to the bedroom. Start with a great BBBJ, and went from there. Her on top, me on top, doggie style. And tried a couple others. I remember her saying she didn't like anal. But I told her I really wanted her to try it with me. She agreed and pulled out the butt plug to get her ready. After some anal time. I pulled out and came on her tits. She fell asleep for about 30 minutes. Came out asked if I had a charger, since I was in the living room. At this point she is walking around and I was ready for round two. Went back in for round two all with the same. This time with a money shot to her face. She wanted me to go get chinesse food with her. But I declined since I had another girl coming over in a hour. As she got dressed I was able to snap a couple quick pictures. But even better she didn't even notice my go pro camera on. Walked her out gave her another 500 pesos for her taxi. She has been calling me all day, saying she wants more of me. Might bring her back again.

Here are a couple pics of her getting ready.

[QUOTE=BlackJah;2071286]s.

I thought to myself why pay for a short visit when I can go all night but, that will be for my future visit. Left the establishment $60 lighter and 1000 pesos lighter for the tip and the beers consumed (which like American bars have a surcharge price). All in all, it was worth the experience though, nice place and you have options.

She sits with me we have a drink and I tell her I am just visiting on vacation but she wants to see me later so we exchange whatspp, later comes and my faithful driver brings me pick her up later and we come back to the rental. Wow that was some good pussy, I gave her 500 pesos, she took 2 beers and I dropped her back home that night. I'm going to guess she was a prostitute on the beach not too sure, but she still messages me and hasn't asked for money or anything, just small talk of how I'm doing and when will she see me again.

Day 4- Now I am feeling nice and refreshed, on the day I am leaving went towards northern Santo Domingo for lunch before my flight as if going towards the us embassy and it looked like pussy paradise not sure if they were prostitutes or just like wearing very revealing clothes but on my return trip I will inquire about the area as I saw they are building new apartments in the area and it looked nice to be centrally located.[/QUOTE]Wow you went from paying $60 to paying $12.

So I always use to wonder why guys never try to pick girls up for free when it's so easy, but now I'm on the other side of the coin and just don't have the time for that and want the sure thing quick and easy. I haven't been to Santo Dom in 4 years, there were two really good pay for play bars near a hotel with casino on a river. I read a few pages in and it seems like it's all going to clubs and pick up girls now. Is there any good places still open you can just go pick from a line up and leave? Is Sousa still more like Del Rey in CR? Trying to plan the right amount of time in the right areas. My buddy with me is fluent and I speak getting laid Spanish.

The one thing on my last trip about Santo Dom that I didn't love was nothing was going on during the day. Pretty much waiting to find girls until 10 pm. I walked the streets all day long and saw nothing attractive in my opinion then at night all these hot chicas would come out from no where. Is it still like that, no MPs or anything to do during day for mongering?

[QUOTE=MadisonGuy;2074491] I speak getting laid Spanish.

The one thing on my last trip about Santo Dom that I didn't love was nothing was going on during the day. Pretty much waiting to find girls until 10 pm. I walked the streets all day long and saw nothing attractive in my opinion then at night all these hot chicas would come out from no where. Is it still like that, no MPs or anything to do during day for mongering?[/QUOTE]I'm going to steal that line just so you know. Sounds like GB is the place to be.

[QUOTE=MadisonGuy;2074491]Is Sousa still more like Del Rey in CR?[/QUOTE]Sosua is a town and Del Rey is a hotel. How could they be alike? If you are asking if there are still freelancers there, then yes.

Try Calle Conde / Colonial Zone. There are always some hotties to be had strolling along.

[QUOTE=MadisonGuy;2074491]So I always use to wonder why guys never try to pick girls up for free when it's so easy,
The one thing on my last trip about Santo Dom that I didn't love was nothing was going on during the day. , no MPs or anything to do during day for mongering?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2074537]Sosua is a town and Del Rey is a hotel. How could they be alike? If you are asking if there are still freelancers there, then yes.[/QUOTE]I meant Sosua having places like Del Rey. Santo Domingo did not have anything near that last time I went. The couple places I went in Santo Domingo were closer to Thai or Philippines in the way they were presented, closer still far away though. But I think you answered my question if the bars are full of freelancers that's the way I like it.

Guys,

Noticed that a lot of ladies from Venezuela are now advertising their services on the web. Is there anyplace in Santo Dom. These ladies are hanging out waiting for clients. I always prefer to inspect personally rather than a photo. Thanks.

Does anyone have information on the DR Mermaids operation?

Drmermaids-dot-com.

I was planning on using them for part of my trip on the resort. Found some information would be nice to validate they are legit.

Regards,

Mycount4.

Is it just me or do the online providers post their best pics from years ago only to show up beat and used up? Only had one online girl show up same as her pic here in Santo Domingo.

Stayed at the Jaragua very girl friendly. You will have to bring the girl in as the casino is bottom of the barrel and I actually had one ask me $300. Quickly went to $200. I would paid 1500 which is about $30.

Exchange rates.

Hotel 45:1.

Casino 45.5 : 1.

El conde 46.5 :1.

Western union 47:1.

Airport banca reservas 47.5 : 1.

Best meal was Adrian Tropical down from the jaragua on the malecon.

[QUOTE=StokerStar;2086219]Best meal was Adrian Tropical down from the jaragua on the malecon.[/QUOTE]Best meal for me was at PAT E PALO, plaza de Espana. A bit pricey, but 100% worth it. Book a nice table on the terrace!

Adrian Tropical compares to Pat E Palo the way Hardees compares to Ruth Chris Steakhouse, except Adrian tropical is a lot closer in price to Pat E Palo than Hardees is to Ruth Chris.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2086220]Best meal for me was at PAT E PALO, plaza de Espana. A bit pricey, but 100% worth it. Book a nice table on the terrace![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2086298]Adrian Tropical compares to Pat E Palo the way Hardees compares to Ruth Chris Steakhouse, except Adrian tropical is a lot closer in price to Pat E Palo than Hardees is to Ruth Chris.[/QUOTE]Adrian Tropical has a nice view. Horrible service and crappy food.

[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2088240]Adrian Tropical has a nice view. Horrible service and crappy food.[/QUOTE]And that is the first place that if asked chicks say they want to eat. I am one of the least picky people I know, but I can't eat at Adrian Tropical.

Well down to 3 days till I land in Santo Domingo for 12 days, Don't need to depend on FLers as I have been using LatinAmericanCupid for the last 4 month. Bring gifts and wife up 2 days at a time. Now you have to understand that I'm a 70 year old white guy with very limited Spanish and that did not seem to get in the way last June in Sosua. Not sport fucking this time but all nights with the wives (thank God for magic pills. I usually don't post as I don't want to be part of the "my dicks bigger than yours" group. I have been coming to DR for about 4 years now and keep a low profile. Staying in Colonial Zone in Small place. When in Sousa I usually stay at Europa as Its clean has a bar and don't have to put up with BS. Always rent a car for the full time as Taxes are a rip-off. Here are a few photos from Sousa and new wives in Santo Domingo.

[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2006384]Exclusivo is hard to find. It is on the marginal of las americas between the two forks of san vincent de paul. Best bet is use google maps to find the new horizons school on the marginal. Ejecutivo is a block or so east and is not marked. Big yellow / orange type mansion usually with watchman sitting out front. Just ask him. You walk in driveway and he may follow and buzz the door so chicas stand up and get ready for lineup. Usually 10-15 girls and can be hit or miss. They rotate fairly frequently.[/QUOTE]So I just landed in SDQ, a little past 2 pm and SD is still not as heck. I was determined to get my first nut before even crossing the Ozama river, so I went looking for Club Exclusivo. Based on P2's Intel I was able to locate it. Only discrepancy: the school is called Brilliant Minds. I knocked on the sliding gate and a lady came and let me in. The place does look like a Spanish mansion. The lady summoned a few girls for the presentation, and I did not see anyone that grabbed my attention. I was told the price is 2000 pesos for one hour. I asked if there's a half hour option for 1000, they said no. I did not partake and left. Photos of the exterior attached.

Their staffing went way downhill the past year or so. That didn't stop them from hiking the price up to 2,000. Another point against the place, the rooms are very poorly maintained, especially the plumbing. It's not much better than GBP on this front but much more expensive with girls who aren't as good as GBP on the whole.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;2088572]So I just landed in SDQ, a little past 2 pm and SD is still not as heck. I was determined to get my first nut before even crossing the Ozama river, so I went looking for Club Exclusivo. Based on P2's Intel I was able to locate it. Only discrepancy: the school is called Brilliant Minds. I knocked on the sliding gate and a lady came and let me in. The place does look like a Spanish mansion. The lady summoned a few girls for the presentation, and I did not see anyone that grabbed my attention. I was told the price is 2000 pesos for one hour. I asked if there's a half hour option for 1000, they said no. I did not partake and left. Photos of the exterior attached.[/QUOTE]

It depends on the girl of course but it's a pretty popular place. The owner started out with a chimichurri stand on Lincoln. My opinion is the culinary technique hasn't grown much from those early days. The branch on Nunez is busier and has a more local clientele, and the same sub standard fare. About 15 years ago there was a big controversy involving the Malecon branch. Word got out that Adrian had no rights to seafront location of the restaurant. My guess is he made that go away by greasing certain palms. I have to give him credit for a business model that benefits from the tourist crowd on the Malecon but doesn't depend on it because of the very busy location on Nunez de Caceres.

Aroma de la Montana in Jarabacoa and Tipico Bonao on autopista Duarte in Bonao are examples of a Dominican owned restaurants with very good food at fair prices. Aroma de la Montana has a spectacular view but the trip to Jarabacoa is not for everybody.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2088260]And that is the first place that if asked chicks say they want to eat. I am one of the least picky people I know, but I can't eat at Adrian Tropical.[/QUOTE]

OK all you Nay Sayers, Santos Domingo much better than "cheep Charlie" Sousa. Been here 5 days going on six (still have six to go. I get new chica every night. I didn't come to DR to be cheep, I have $200.00 a day budget, last night I went to high end brothel With Muy Muy chicas to pick from (Colombians, Venezuelans, Brazilians, Cubans and of course Dominicans } $200.00 overnight. I have not heard of this place on this site before (Casa Theresa) also found Baby Dolls and many discos that have many FL Chicas. I stay in old hotel in Zona Colonial (chica Friendly). Rented car for whole trip (but you have to know how to drive like a Dominican) Also stroll down Calle El Conde Muy muy FL Chicas. Will try to post full report when I return to US. PM me for more info and Stay the hell out of Boca Chica, nothing but bad news there.

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2091118]also found Baby Dolls and many discos that have many [b]FL[/b] Chicas. I stay in old hotel in Zona Colonial (chica Friendly). Rented car for whole trip (but you have to know how to drive like a Dominican) Also stroll down Calle El Conde Muy muy [b]FL[/b] Chicas.[/QUOTE]What does the "FL" stand for?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2091287]What does the "FL" stand for?[/QUOTE]Freelance.

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2091118] I have not heard of this place on this site before (Casa Theresa)[/QUOTE]I just did a quick search on Casa Theresa, and found 5 pages of mentions. I visited it once about 4 years ago, and I found the talent to be very good, but I haven't needed to go back since. Most of my time is spent with chicas that I already know for much cheaper prices. I've been to Santo Domingo so many times over the last 5 years or so, that really have no need to visit casas. If I get bored, I can always go to megacentro, or one of my other spots around town. I just got back from a trip down there, but no need for a trip report, because I really didn't do anything new.

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2091118] Stay the hell out of Boca Chica, nothing but bad news there.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry you didn't enjoy yourself there. If you understand what you are walking into, its a fun place for a day or so. At least, that was my experience. The only trouble I had was the trouble I brought on myself when I knew trouble was coming (but it seemed like fun at the time). But SD is a fun place. I never expected to walk into a comida and get sucked into performing multiple times in their karaoke show, and walk out with a white Dominican FL and get a tour of the sleaze belt around El Conde. The DR is a fun place!

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2091118]I didn't come to DR to be cheep. last night I went to high end brothel With Muy Muy chicas to pick from (Colombians, Venezuelans, Brazilians, Cubans and of course Dominicans } $200.00 overnight. I have not heard of this place on this site before (Casa Theresa).. discos that have many FL Chicas. Also stroll down Calle El Conde Muy muy FL Chicas.[/QUOTE]Casa Teresa has been mentioned 10000 times here. Hell, I thought it might have been even the longest running brothel in SD.

You did not go to DR to be cheap, but most people's reason to travel to third world countries to fuck is NOT to pay more for pussy for the night than most people in the country make in a month. Personally, there are too many free women running around the world to be paying $200 to bust a nut. In all my mongering years, I have never even paid a hooker close to $100. But to each his own.

By the way, muy means very. I think you mean to say muchas, for many.

Kind of confused because last week you said you were not thinking about hookers because you had made plenty of Cupid contacts and were going to wife up with them for a couple of gifts. Now you are saying yippee for $200 hookers. [QUOTE=Drifter47;2088453]Don't need to depend on FLers as I have been using LatinAmericanCupid for the last 4 month. Bring gifts and wife up 2 days at a time. Not sport fucking this time but all nights with the wives.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2091287]What does the "FL" stand for?[/QUOTE]Freelance.

I was thinking the exact same thing Mr E. For $200 a pop you can stay home and bang decent quality hookers. It is your money and if you are happy more power to you. The guys in Sosua are doing their thing and busting nuts like you and are as happy as you. I go there not just because it is cheap but it is also a lot of fun.

You do not have to get expensive transportation to enjoy the place. I enjoy SD but it is a grind. You have to schedule your dates and hope they show. I for one hate casas. Few things are more mechanical then women being herded out in a line up and GFE not happening. The chicas on El Conde will eaat you a live for 2000 pesos.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2091344]Casa Teresa has been mentioned 10000 times here. Hell, I thought it might have been even the longest running brothel in SD.

You did not go to DR to be cheap, but most people's reason to travel to third world countries to fuck is NOT to pay more for pussy for the night than most people in the country make in a month. Personally, there are too many free women running around the world to be paying $200 to bust a nut. In all my mongering years, I have never even paid a hooker close to $100. But to each his own.

By the way, muy means very. I think you mean to say muchas, for many.

Kind of confused because last week you said you were not thinking about hookers because you had made plenty of Cupid contacts and were going to wife up with them for a couple of gifts. Now you are saying yippee for $200 hookers.[/QUOTE]

I decided to catch the bus from Boca chica to SD to hang with a few expats that muster daily at Romas cafe (Conde and Duarte). The bus picks you up at the park in the Middle of Boca chica. Being you are going to make the SD transfer at the Andres depot, the ride from BC to Andres is free. The fare from Andres to SD is 60 pesos. Nice smooth air conditioned ride with plenty of eye candy. The only down side is having to wait for the bus to fill up. The bus will take you within walking distance to Zona colonial and El Conde. El conde is always exciting to me with its cast of usual players. The Michael Jackson impersonator that has been there for years, the magician, massage girls tricking in a back room and a few free lancers.

Sitting with the expats chatting quickly gets updated on the happenings in SD and on El Conde. Noemi walks by with no bra on and flip flops but glances at us sitting at Roma's and keeps walking. She is probably one of the hottest girls I have ever seen but has a sour attitude. We chat about her banging everybody but now is looking for newbie tourists as none of the ex pats want her. She keeps talking about coming to LA or going to BC but the Conde has her lazy ass on lock down.

The bus back to Boca is basically reversing the inbound trip without the depot stop in Andres.

Troubleman is correct about Megacentro. SD is a big adventure to me with many different venues to discover. The thing that fucks guys up about SD is that guys see all these beautiful women and think they can put a thousand peso note in their hand and they will go. Wrong Charlie, they have Dominicans with money that won't even look at you unless you are a Dominican with money. They have poor Dominican girls who dress up, go to a spot in Piantini or Bella vista with rich Dominicans and don't care about tourists. The girls in Santiago are more arrogant but SD has its spots where this is prevalent. SD has strip clubs and quick fuck places that are cheap, but it's mostly for Dominicans.

Unless you spend time to understand the character of SD and its venues then your only option as a tourist will be the expensive casas. Even the internet are difficult as they run game on the visiting tourist.

[QUOTE=HBoy54;2091297]Freelance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2091345]Freelance.[/QUOTE]Ah, thanks!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2091344]Casa Teresa has been mentioned 10000 times here. Hell, I thought it might have been even the longest running brothel in SD.

You did not go to DR to be cheap, but most people's reason to travel to third world countries to fuck is NOT to pay more for pussy for the night than most people in the country make in a month. Personally, there are too many free women running around the world to be paying $200 to bust a nut. In all my mongering years, I have never even paid a hooker close to $100. But to each his own.

By the way, muy means very. I think you mean to say muchas, for many.

Kind of confused because last week you said you were not thinking about hookers because you had made plenty of Cupid contacts and were going to wife up with them for a couple of gifts. Now you are saying yippee for $200 hookers.[/QUOTE]Still have but like to get the nasty women as it takes time to train normal chicas.

$200. For all night not a pop. Don't know where you get your pussy, but $200. Is usually an hour in US and all night 450 to 600.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2091515]I was thinking the exact same thing Mr E. For $200 a pop you can stay home and bang decent quality hookers. It is your money and if you are happy more power to you. The guys in Sosua are doing their thing and busting nuts like you and are as happy as you. I go there not just because it is cheap but it is also a lot of fun.

You do not have to get expensive transportation to enjoy the place. I enjoy SD but it is a grind. You have to schedule your dates and hope they show. I for one hate casas. Few things are more mechanical then women being herded out in a line up and GFE not happening. The chicas on El Conde will eaat you a live for 2000 pesos.[/QUOTE]

I could only find 211 posts referring to Casa Theresa and thanks for the Spanish lesson I always love being corrected.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2091344]Casa Teresa has been mentioned 10000 times here. Hell, I thought it might have been even the longest running brothel in SD.

You did not go to DR to be cheap, but most people's reason to travel to third world countries to fuck is NOT to pay more for pussy for the night than most people in the country make in a month. Personally, there are too many free women running around the world to be paying $200 to bust a nut. In all my mongering years, I have never even paid a hooker close to $100. But to each his own.

By the way, muy means very. I think you mean to say muchas, for many.

Kind of confused because last week you said you were not thinking about hookers because you had made plenty of Cupid contacts and were going to wife up with them for a couple of gifts. Now you are saying yippee for $200 hookers.[/QUOTE]

As about half a dozen people control all the posts and anybody else that posts get slammed is the reason there are not many that post.

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2091649]As about half a dozen people control all the posts and anybody else that posts get slammed is the reason there are not many that post.[/QUOTE]Sad but true!

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2091649]As about half a dozen people control all the posts and anybody else that posts get slammed is the reason there are not many that post.[/QUOTE]Slammed? Nah, you were corrected for your post about not finding any mentions of Casa Theresa, when a simple search would have solved that problem. As far as price is concerned, in a big city like Santo Domingo, what one person decides to spend really has no impact on what I or others are doing, but you were simply given advice on other possibilities that could save you some coin. I don't know about you, but I'm not a native spanish speaker, so any good advice to help me speak the language better, which will also help with communicating with chicas, which could also save some money, is always a good thing. Glad you had a good time, which is all that matters.

I have plenty of locals correcting me all the time, the problem with Dominican Spanish is there is no set rules to the slang. I can get buy in Mexico but here crap shoot. This is not my first time here but as posted I don't because too many are ready to pounce.

[QUOTE=Troubleman69;2091911]Slammed? Nah, you were corrected for your post about not finding any mentions of Casa Theresa, when a simple search would have solved that problem. As far as price is concerned, in a big city like Santo Domingo, what one person decides to spend really has no impact on what I or others are doing, but you were simply given advice on other possibilities that could save you some coin. I don't know about you, but I'm not a native spanish speaker, so any good advice to help me speak the language better, which will also help with communicating with chicas, which could also save some money, is always a good thing. Glad you had a good time, which is all that matters.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2091593]$200. For all night not a pop. Don't know where you get your pussy, but $200. Is usually an hour in US and all night 450 to 600.[/QUOTE]And in Thailand and Philippines $30 for all night.

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2091590]Still have but like to get the nasty women as it takes time to train normal chicas.[/QUOTE]And how would you know how nasty the paid woman is before you have tried her out? She may require training as well (and my experience is that hookers are not up for training). Then too, the normal woman may turn out to be nastier than the paid woman, which is usually my experience in the DR. The paid woman is there trying to get more money for less work (which is the reason she became a hooker in the first place), while a normal woman is there because she wants to be.

I just had two paid women in less than a week tell me they do not suck dick (you can read my reports about it in the Pattaya, Thailand thread). Meanwhile I had to stop the normal woman that is lying next to me right now from sucking my dick so much and wetting the bed with so much saliva.

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2091649]As about half a dozen people control all the posts and anybody else that posts get slammed is the reason there are not many that post.[/QUOTE]Nobody controls any posts here except the owner Jackson. When you contradict yourself and give out false information you should expect people to call you on it though. You say CT has not been mentioned at all. I reply with an exaggeration and say it has been mentioned 10000 times. Then you say it has only been mentioned 211 times. Well bro which is it? Surely 211 posts about Casa Teresa did not pop up in 1 day after YOU said there were none. Nobody on this board is going to let you blow smoke up their ass like that. But if you see it as people slamming you then so be it.

An opinion is one thing and is open for interpretation and debate, but a fact does not work that way. We can debate and talk shit about each other when one of us says that Santo Domingo is better than Sosua and vice versa, but ain't no debating whether Casa Teresa has been mentioned before. And if you say it has not when it has (over 200 times) then you should expect people to nudge you and ask what the fuck.

P.S. How would you know the reason for there not being many posts? Maybe not many ISG members monger in Santo Domingo and that is the reason for there not being many posts. There are even less posts in the Punta Cana and Santiago threads. Using your logic, there must be a slew of slamming going on in those.

Just was in Pattaya and Bangkok for two weeks and was 22.00 for short time and if you take gril after 12 then about 35.00 all night, Phills is cheeper but fatter women and alot of runners.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2092020]And in Thailand and Philippines $30 for all night.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrGogo;2091523]I

Unless you spend time to understand the character of SD and its venues then your only option as a tourist will be the expensive casas. Even the internet are difficult as they run game on the visiting tourist.[/QUOTE]I agree with you 100%. SD is not " point click shoot" like Sosua. You have to put in some work to really enjoy the city. I have to friends who live in SD and they have a plethora of females at their beck and call, but they wouldn't have that success if they were the average gringo who only goes for 2-3 days a couple of times a year.

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2092053]Just was in Pattaya and Bangkok for two weeks and was 22.00 for short time and if you take gril after 12 then about 35.00 all night, Phills is cheeper but fatter women and alot of runners.[/QUOTE]I have been living in Pattaya for the last 8 years. I am talking about freelance chicks, not bars or gogos. In bars and gogos get the chick's number and have her come on her off time.

I go to SD 2 or 3 times a year for a week to 10 days have a bevy of busty beauties (at least 4) at my beck and call. Signed, Santo Domingo Gringo.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2092086]I I have to friends who live in SD and they have a plethora of females at their beck and call, but they wouldn't have that success if they were the average gringo who only goes for 2-3 days a couple of times a year.[/QUOTE]

So where do you pickup your FL. On beach road.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2092111]I have been living in Pattaya for the last 8 years. I am talking about freelance chicks, not bars or gogos. In bars and gogos get the chick's number and have her come on her off time.[/QUOTE]

Shhhh Mr. E. don't let the secret out of the bag that SD is a great place to monger even for a fat old fart like me who doesn't speak hardly any Spanish. I do pretty good here. Almost as good as PI and frankly, the girls are classier in SD. At least the ones I'm doing are. Cheers, buddy.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2092030]? Maybe not many ISG members monger in Santo Domingo and that is the reason for there not being many posts. There are even less posts in the Punta Cana and Santiago threads. Using your logic, there must be a slew of slamming going on in those.[/QUOTE]

Wow I stand in your presence for such a super monger. Must get really tired flying from Thailand to US and then ti DR then back again. Must me a multi Millionaire to afford all that airline fares for so may trips a year. BS.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2092025]And how would you know how nasty the paid woman is before you have tried her out? She may require training as well (and my experience is that hookers are not up for training). Then too, the normal woman may turn out to be nastier than the paid woman, which is usually my experience in the DR. The paid woman is there trying to get more money for less work (which is the reason she became a hooker in the first place), while a normal woman is there because she wants to be.

I just had two paid women in less than a week tell me they do not suck dick (you can read my reports about it in the Pattaya, Thailand thread). Meanwhile I had to stop the normal woman that is lying next to me right now from sucking my dick so much and wetting the bed with so much saliva.[/QUOTE]

The owner Jackson controls what is a violation not controlling the the banter. You and at least 5 others are the ones that are always controlling the subjects. "I reply with an exaggeration and say it has been mentioned 10000 times" so you lied case closed. "Then you say it has only been mentioned 211 times" well most of those had no info. "Using your logic, there must be a slew of slamming going on in those" No but enough on this and Sousa and Puerto Plata to discourage posters from posting. I myself stayed away because of the pissing contest between you and the other 6.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2092030]Nobody controls any posts here except the owner Jackon. When you contradict yourself and give out false information you should expect people to call you on it though. You say CT has not been mentioned at all. I reply with an exaggeration and say it has been mentioned 10000 times. Then you say it has only been mentioned 211 times. Well bro which is it? Surely 211 posts about Casa Teresa did not pop up in 1 day after YOU said there were none. Nobody on this board is going to let you blow smoke up their ass like that. But if you see it as people slamming you then so be it.

An opinion is one thing and is open for interpretation and debate, but a fact does not work that way. We can debate and talk shit about each other when one of us says that Santo Domingo is better than Sosua and vice versa, but ain't no debating whether Casa Teresa has been mentioned before. And if you say it has not when it has (over 200 times) then you should expect people to nudge you and ask what the fuck.

P.S. How would you know the reason for there not being many posts? Maybe not many ISG members monger in Santo Domingo and that is the reason for there not being many posts. There are even less posts in the Punta Cana and Santiago threads. Using your logic, there must be a slew of slamming going on in those.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2092301]The owner Jackson controls what is a violation not controlling the the banter. You and at least 5 others are the ones that are always controlling the subjects. "I reply with an exaggeration and say it has been mentioned 10000 times" so you lied case closed. "Then you say it has only been mentioned 211 times" well most of those had no info. "Using your logic, there must be a slew of slamming going on in those" No but enough on this and Sousa and Puerto Plata to discourage posters from posting. I myself stayed away because of the pissing contest between you and the other 6.[/QUOTE]1.10000 is to be understood as rhetoric / figure of speech.

2. Your report had a "swagger" about it, in terms of money that was not missed at least by me. If your thought is to write a report that has information (by the way, there is no new information, practically everything is known except place change or change of price which too happens rather infrequently), using the right tone is helpful. You could have for example stated that "found no useful information about casa teresa in the existing reports" rather than throwing a hyperbole - "no mention of casa teresa". Personally I have never heard of Casa Teresa so I would not have objected to whatever you wrote but there are those that are familiar with SD.

3. I do not see eye to eye with some here but I do not think it is anyone's intention to slam another, especially if the information (not opinion, mind you) is useful and correct.

Amen brother.

[QUOTE=Oakie;2092402]I would imagine a guy that devotes his life to mongering around the world, bragging about it here on a mongering forum, in "ten thousand" posts, mostly criticizing others posted experience. He doesn't really need all those hookers in his life, because there is so much "normal" and "free" pussy available to him all the time and everywhere. Go figure!

As we all know, "free" pussy is never free, there is always some quid quo pro. That's why we mongers buy it as a commodoty on the market.

But I have to conclude this guy is not picking up his own tab for the travel to all those mongering destinations around the world, that he doesn't really need!:)

Then there's the resident amateur psychiatrist that could never figure out how to have a good time down there and bitched at everybody who does, even though he sends all his putas to orgasm heaven, so he says he shouldn't have to pay.

This bunch runs together in the DR so they let all this cirkle jerk bullshit pass, but jump on every newbie who makes an honest mistake!

Call the bulshit out, and they'll tag team you!

Sad bunch![/QUOTE]

Well, I have met Mr. E and while he is no millionaire he is well traveled. Get the drift?

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2092296]Wow I stand in your presence for such a super monger. Must get really tired flying from Thailand to US and then ti DR then back again. Must me a multi Millionaire to afford all that airline fares for so may trips a year. BS.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2092025]And how would you know how nasty the paid woman is before you have tried her out? She may require training as well (and my experience is that hookers are not up for training). Then too, the normal woman may turn out to be nastier than the paid woman, which is usually my experience in the DR. The paid woman is there trying to get more money for less work (which is the reason she became a hooker in the first place), while a normal woman is there because she wants to be.

I just had two paid women in less than a week tell me they do not suck dick (you can read my reports about it in the Pattaya, Thailand thread). Meanwhile I had to stop the normal woman that is lying next to me right now from sucking my dick so much and wetting the bed with so much saliva.[/QUOTE]I co-sign with Mr. E on this. I hooked up with a girl on Tagged, single mom University student from small town. I don't profess to have game or looks or whatever. But the stars must have aligned right. Wifed up with her almost the whole trip. Sex was that good. I lost count of how many times we've done it after the 8 times in the first complete overnight we had together. She was an absolute freak. Best sex I've ever had in the DR. She even opened the back door for me. I didn't pay her anything, she didn't ask me for anything. Of course the gentleman that I am, picked up the tab for food and drinks. We had mondongo one evening -- total damage: 500 pesos. This girl even paid for her own Plan BB morning after pill (Evital)! Unlike Drifter, I do go to the DR to be cheap. (Plus I love Dominicanas.) Free is even better than cheap! Again, not boasting. Sometimes you catch a girl in whatever situation she happens to be in, and you can click with her, free happens. Mr. E being the experienced and frequent traveler, certainly the numbers are in his favor. I have no reason not to believe his stories.

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[QUOTE=Oakie;2092574]You guys think you are the only ones who get "free" pussy?
[/QUOTE]All I wrote about, was my anecdotal experience, which was specific to Mr E's point about regular girls' freakiness versus pros. His point, was in turn a retort to something specific that Drifter wrote. There's no need to turn everything into a broad pissing contest, I certainly did not aim to do so. I don't agree with anyone 100% and I don't disagree with you 100%.

I, like you, appreciate and enjoy Sosua and posted my opinion on the matter. I had every intention to go balls out with paid hookers there this last trip, just like all my other trips. However, like I said, the stars must have aligned right in my favor and I moved and adapted. If you said you get more free pussy than me, that's cool I don't question you I congratulate you. If there's something useful that others can learn from, please share I'm ready to listen.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;2092496]I co-sign with Mr. E on this. I hooked up with a girl on Tagged, single mom University student from small town. I don't profess to have game or looks or whatever. But the stars must have aligned right. Wifed up with her almost the whole trip. Sex was that good. I lost count of how many times we've done it after the 8 times in the first complete overnight we had together. She was an absolute freak. Best sex I've ever had in the DR. She even opened the back door for me. I didn't pay her anything, she didn't ask me for anything. Of course the gentleman that I am, picked up the tab for food and drinks. We had mondongo one evening -- total damage: 500 pesos. This girl even paid for her own Plan BB morning after pill (Evital)! Unlike Drifter, I do go to the DR to be cheap. (Plus I love Dominicanas.) Free is even better than cheap! Again, not boasting. Sometimes you catch a girl in whatever situation she happens to be in, and you can click with her, free happens. Mr. E being the experienced and frequent traveler, certainly the numbers are in his favor. I have no reason not to believe his stories.[/QUOTE]Is that the female you left me and Sosua for. Guy spends one day in the Sue and ran back to the pussy. SHe had his nose wide open.

My recent post may be considered too antagonistic and so was deleted, and that is entirely up to the moderator.

I would like to be on record though, that I have never, and would never resort to manipulating the forums rules, by logging in or out and responding to posters that are supposedly on my ignore list.

I can only post a reply to any post when I am logged in, simply by clicking, "reply to post".

I would never, and have never, tried to circumvent any rule by "copying and pasting" messages that I am not supposed to respond to.

I would ask that Jackson take a look at my account settings, because I am still today able to click and "reply to post" to this individual, as long as I am logged in.

(I would never accuse MrE of manipulating posts either, so maybe he had the same problem I did).

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;2092644]All I wrote about, was my anecdotal experience, which was specific to Mr E's point about regular girls' freakiness versus pros. His point, was in turn a retort to something specific that Drifter wrote. There's no need to turn everything into a broad pissing contest, I certainly did not aim to do so. I don't agree with anyone 100% and I don't disagree with you 100%.

I, like you, appreciate and enjoy Sosua and posted my opinion on the matter. I had every intention to go balls out with paid hookers there this last trip, just like all my other trips. However, like I said, the stars must have aligned right in my favor and I moved and adapted. If you said you get more free pussy than me, that's cool I don't question you I congratulate you. If there's something useful that others can learn from, please share I'm ready to listen.[/QUOTE]In spite of my misleading opening "You think that you are the only ones etc. " my point was that I never discuss my "free pussy" experiences in my posts, and use it to shame other mongers who are willing, or are forced to pay for sex.

The subject is mongering, not dating. You can't avoid "free vs P4 P" in these discussions, but the consistent demeaning of other posters decisions on what to pay based on your personal "free pussy" supply is not helpful, realistic, and self aggrandizing.

I'm not interested in your free pussy, anymore than you are interested in mine (unless you are willing to share. :) )

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2092760]Is that the female you left me and Sosua for. Guy spends one day in the Sue and ran back to the pussy. SHe had his nose wide open.[/QUOTE]Hahaha yeah. Guilty.

I suspect that guys who say they are sampling free pussy are in fact paying more for it than the rest of us who session working girls. They have been scammed and probably don't recognize it because they are not paying immediately after the deed.

20 year old women never fuck 50 plus men for free. If you think that got some cheap bridges for you.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2093679]I suspect that guys who say they are sampling free pussy are in fact paying more for it than the rest of us who session working girls. They have been scammed and probably don't recognize it because they are not paying immediately after the deed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2093679]I suspect that guys who say they are sampling free pussy are in fact paying more for it than the rest of us who session working girls. They have been scammed and probably don't recognize it because they are not paying immediately after the deed.[/QUOTE]If you ARE getting free pussy just remember YOU are not paying them to leave which to me is the best part of the session. Hearing that door slam is a sigh of relief!

[QUOTE=Sabor;2093708]If you ARE getting free pussy just remember YOU are not paying them to leave which to me is the best part of the session. Hearing that door slam is a sigh of relief![/QUOTE]Free pussy is for guys with deep pockets and plenty time on their hands.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2093784]Free pussy is for guys with deep pockets and plenty time on their hands.[/QUOTE]Or for guys fucking women their own age. I'm on the wrong side of 50, and I'd rather pay a hot 20 year old Than get a women my age for free.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2093784]Free pussy is for guys with deep pockets and plenty time on their hands.[/QUOTE]Should say and / or. If you have the time or live there, not much money is needed. Of course spanish and knowledge of country and culture also help.

I have been giving my tagged girls 4000 and they are thrilled. Of course, that is typically for overnight and includes unlimited sex with everything on the menu except anal. Very few like anal.

Most of these girls are non pros in the sense that they have never done sex for money before. And, of course, the money I s always taxi money or cash to buy [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url] etc. Last night I told the two girls I was with that I NEVER pay for sex. They practically high-fived me that I was good to never pay for sex even though they expected our agreed upon 5000 apiece for two sessions (11-2 am and 9-11:00 am).

I did meet a non-pro who did not agree to have sex on the first date. Somewhat to my surprise, she texted me this morning and has agreed to session for 4000 pesos (regalo) which will come in handy for school supplies.

I love this country.

I am little over 60 and have 25 year old coming to spend time with me for a couple of days. I bought a samsung lap top for 130 bucks for her. She is still in school and wants one. She will give me 2 days of what ever I want and hinted anal could be in play. Like you I love this country. Sex with the "non pros is much better then anything you get in the streets. If you have the time cultivate a few semi or non pros. It is a much better experience. Dominican women are culturally motivated to satify their men. In truth for it is more cost effective and fun.
I am also learning creo for my haitian stable. .The basics are simple. My expeiences with Haitian women have been awesome.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2097441]I am little over 60 and have 25 year old coming to spend time with me for a couple of days. I bought a samsung lap top for 130 bucks for her. She is still in school and wants one. She will give me 2 days of what ever I want and hinted anal could be in play. Like you I love this country. Sex with the "non pros is much better then anything you get in the streets. If you have the time cultivate a few semi or non pros. It is a much better experience. Dominican women are culturally motivated to satify their men. In truth for it is more cost effective and fun.
I am also learning creo for my haitian stable. .The basics are simple. My expeiences with Haitian women have been awesome.[/QUOTE]Nice report on your observations. After a month of debate and thinking about a visit to Haiti I have decided to just enjoy the DR specifically the Sue as my desire is to get with those really really black 18 to 25 yo Haitian cuties and the DR is much more set up for an enjoyable trip.

Regards,

TTM.

I just got here today and I am trying to remember where the places are. I see GBP on Google maps, and it says permanently closed. I could stop by sometime when I am in the area.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;2097966]I just got here today and I am trying to remember where the places are. I see GBP on Google maps, and it says permanently closed. I could stop by sometime when I am in the area.[/QUOTE]I do not think GBP is on google maps. Search for Arismendy Motors. It is right down from that. Or better yet, that red and white building in the picture across from it is Mapfre BHD Seguros. Search for that. It will be the one on 27 Feb. Be careful because there is another one on Lincoln. I just sent a message to the bartender. She said they are open now. I told her you are on the way.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2097969]I do not think GBP is on google maps. Search for Arismendy Motors. It is right down from that. Or better yet, that red and white building in the picture across from it is Mapfre BHD Seguros. Search for that. It will be the one on 27 Feb. Be careful because there is another one on Lincoln. I just sent a message to the bartender. She said they are open now. I told her you are on the way.[/QUOTE]They show up on Google Maps in the correct area listed as "GBP girl house" Another place Doll House shows up, but seems to be in the wrong area and says permanently closed. I don't know if some competitors are screwing with Google Maps or something. Even Arismendy Motors on Google maps says permanently closed. I'm guessing this is a Google Maps issue. Google Maps has gotten me lost in many places. I'll check out the GBP on this trip.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;2098011]They show up on Google Maps in the correct area listed as "GBP girl house" Another place Doll House shows up, but seems to be in the wrong area and says permanently closed.[/QUOTE]Doll House was on George Washington and closed last year for reasons mentioned in the attached article. There was a discussion about it in this thread when it happened. Girl House is of course on Av Pasteur.

[URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2016/12/2/Colombian-women-exploited-at-shuttered-popular-strip-club/[/URL]

Supermercado Bravo is probably the easiest to find and closest landmark.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2097969]I do not think GBP is on google maps. Search for Arismendy Motors. It is right down from that. Or better yet, that red and white building in the picture across from it is Mapfre BHD Seguros. Search for that. It will be the one on 27 Feb. Be careful because there is another one on Lincoln. I just sent a message to the bartender. She said they are open now. I told her you are on the way.[/QUOTE]

Does anyone know if the strip club Casa Teresa is still open? It is a higher end strip club with take out.

I haven't been to Santo Domingo in a couple years. I believe that was the name.

GBP. I went there today. It is on the Google Maps app. I took Uber using the address I got from Google Maps, or you could use Uber from the Google Maps app. Uber price from Riazor to GBP averaged 110 COP each way. Opening hours of GBP are 3 PM to midnight on weekdays. Open til 2 AM on the weekends. Closed on Sundays. A rum and coke was 200 COP. At first I was the only customer and this was about about 10:10 PM. Shortly afterwards a couple guys came in. It was odd how I didn't get lots of attention from them until they heard me talking in English. After they knew I was a foreigner they all kept giving me stares. Anyways, I seen about 8 women, but then I seen some here and there in the back. Half the the girls were doable. I wouldn't rate anyone higher than a 7 though. I went with a girl that kind of looks like an Indian girl. She quoted me 1,200 pesos for an hour. I almost thought this was too cheap. I had to reconfirm that with her 2 more times. LOL.

I had been here about 2 and 5 years ago, but I couldn't remember much. Just like before they just got some small and easy to clean. I'm not sure what you call it. It is like a vinyl bed / couch. Anyways, I was pleasantly surprised that she gave BBBJ. She wouldn't kiss though. We just had a couple quick pecs on the lips. The oral was pretty good. I was afraid of popping too early. The sex was OK, not too special. She was a little awkward though. She would pause and not do anything quite often, but I think for sure I'd see her again. I thought it was a good deal for 1,200 COP, especially with BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;2098436] A rum and coke was 200 COP.[/QUOTE]Wow! That's cheap! About 3 Dominican pesos for a rum and coke!

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2098606]Wow! That's cheap! About 3 Dominican pesos for a rum and coke![/QUOTE]Good catch. LOL I'm still in the Colombia mode. And I chat with people in Colombia every day. The drink was 200 DOP.

I was in Santo Domingo a few weeks ago. Didn't report because nothing really new to add besides this Mamasan that I met on a dating site there. She told me she up to 30 girls on her roster can fuck 5 hours for $3000-4000 pesos. You also have to pay her $1500 pesos. I tried two of the girls who has tight pussies for $2000 for 3 hours each. Didn't want them to stay because I had local girls staying over. Mamasan also offered 3 some with one of the girls. Pm for number. Here was the selection she said I could choose from.

More pics.

More pics from Mamasan.

[QUOTE=Global00;2099156]I was in Santo Domingo a few weeks ago. Didn't report because nothing really new to add besides this Mamasan that I met on a dating site there. She told me she up to 30 girls on her roster can fuck 5 hours for $3000-4000 pesos. You also have to pay her $1500 pesos. I tried two of the girls who has tight pussies for $2000 for 3 hours each. Didn't want them to stay because I had local girls staying over. Mamasan also offered 3 some with one of the girls. Pm for number. Here was the selection she said I could choose from.[/QUOTE]Hello Global,

I can't PM you, that don't work, maybe you you can PM me, I'm interested by the mamasan number please!

I will be visiting Santo Domingo for a week in November. I am looking to find someone I can spend a few days with. I would appreciate it if anyone could provide me with a few numbers of women that they have had a good time. I have no problems with older women.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;2098681]Good catch. LOL I'm still in the Colombia mode. And I chat with people in Colombia every day. The drink was 200 DOP.[/QUOTE]It's evident you're still in Colombia mode because you were surprised BBBJ can be had without negotiation.

[QUOTE=Global00;2099156]I was in Santo Domingo a few weeks ago. Didn't report because nothing really new to add besides this Mamasan that I met on a dating site there. She told me she up to 30 girls on her roster can fuck 5 hours for $3000-4000 pesos. You also have to pay her $1500 pesos. I tried two of the girls who has tight pussies for $2000 for 3 hours each. Didn't want them to stay because I had local girls staying over. Mamasan also offered 3 some with one of the girls. Pm for number. Here was the selection she said I could choose from.[/QUOTE]Damn Global some very fine girls, I'm in Santiago next week but maybe I need to head down south to Santo Domingo for a few days.

Please I will send you a PM for the mamasans contact.

Thanks,

TTM.

Sorry. I tried to pm you but I can't. If I post the number her it will be xxxx out sorry.

[QUOTE=Luffyx;2099264]Hello Global,





I can't PM you, that don't work, maybe you you can PM me, I'm interested by the mamasan number please![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;2099439]It's evident you're still in Colombia mode because you were surprised BBBJ can be had without negotiation.[/QUOTE]Yeah, as far as the free included BBBJ, that seems to be getting more and more rare in Colombia. Many of the Venezuelan girls I banged in Colombia don't care to put a condom on you when sucking. The Colombians seem to want to charge you extra for that lately.

My friend just got in town, and it was his first time to the DR, but he owns property in Medellin. I walked him around the casinos and had dinner. One of the guys named Pedro, just kept following us. He left when we went to the restaurant, then magically he shows up right when we finish. He kept wanting to take us to Paradise or the Mansion. We kept saying maybe tomorrow. Me and my friend started walking to Av Pasteur. Then the guy says he knows where we are going, then he says I went there a long time ago. Then I was thinking to myself, how the hell does he know. He is a master of being a tout. Anyways, he wouldn't stop following us. Me and my friend didn't intend to take any girls tonight anyways. So, all 3 of us went in to Satin Dolls. It all seems the same as the last time I went there. I think that was maybe 3 or 4 years ago. One of the girls looked quite different, so I had to asked her where she is from. She is from Brazil. She looks like one of the girls you would see in Sao Paulo. We agreed that I would come back for her sometime. I almost always have a good time with Brazilian girls.

Next we went to La 21. I don't know if it was always called that name. Anyways, I couldn't believe how many girls they had in there. There seemed to be about 40 girls, and they all seem to be young. There were a lot of hotties for sure. I don't know the honest price, because the tout was there. He started with, it is $100 in Satin Dolls, and $120 in La 21. Then he said he knows the owner, so it is only $100 in La 21, and that includes a room in La 21. Satin Dolls has no rooms. We knew to not try to get a girl when he was around, and we didn't have an intention of that anyways. He said 305 has been closed. I didn't know that. I think he mentioned the place with 'Blue' in it is closed also. He says girls in Mansion will be $100 USD if he takes us there.

[QUOTE=Global00;2099156]I was in Santo Domingo a few weeks ago. Didn't report because nothing really new to add besides this Mamasan that I met on a dating site there. She told me she up to 30 girls on her roster can fuck 5 hours for $3000-4000 pesos. You also have to pay her $1500 pesos. I tried two of the girls who has tight pussies for $2000 for 3 hours each. Didn't want them to stay because I had local girls staying over. Mamasan also offered 3 some with one of the girls. Pm for number. Here was the selection she said I could choose from.[/QUOTE]There are no Mamasans in Latin America.

Lots of girls will find you friends to fuck, however. I have a few friends in Santo DOmingo who always have a friend that wants to meet up.

Lots of guys will find you girls too. In the USA, we call them pimps.

This is not Asia. The dynamics are quite different.

I have been to DR many times, but always to Puerto Plata area (San Felipe, Cabarete, Sosua etc).

I will be making my first trip (except for a business trip for 2 days, eons ago) in late Nov / first half of Dec. 2017.

Please help me with some quality hotel and or apartment recommendations that fit the following:

1. I want to be within WALKING distance (up to 15 minutes) of good quality restaurants and disco / dance clubs with some occasional or non pros, if needed, as a back up to several backs ups.

Or else, just dance places with normal folks. But I am looking primarily for US style clubs that play top 50 pop / hip hop / rock / reggae at least half the time.

2. Hotels or US quality apartment with at least about 500 sq ft, with quality beds, showers etc. , with excellent AC and WiFi. Not particularly interested in chain or brand name hotels....but willing to consider them.

Budget for accommodations is US $75-$100 a Day. I plan to be in SDQ for about 2 weeks with maybe a side trip to a Punta Cana resort for 3-4 nights. (FYI, I have quite a few sort of GF's and contacts from my past 5 months of total stay in the POP area during the last 4 years.

And, I have zero interest in straight up pros, and may actually decide to have one of my sort of GF's from the POP area with me for most of the 2 weeks, say 10 days, and 4-5 days with a couple of other contacts. I enjoy nice restaurants and dance places (but my bachata or salsa is quite poor).

Thanks in advance for any and all advice and suggestions. Cheers!

[QUOTE=Haven123;2099686]I have been to DR many times, but always to Puerto Plata area (San Felipe, Cabarete, Sosua etc).

I will be making my first trip (except for a business trip for 2 days, eons ago) in late Nov / first half of Dec. 2017.

Please help me with some quality hotel and or apartment recommendations that fit the following:

1. I want to be within WALKING distance (up to 15 minutes) of good quality restaurants and disco / dance clubs with some occasional or non pros, if needed, as a back up to several backs ups.

Or else, just dance places with normal folks. But I am looking primarily for US style clubs that play top 50 pop / hip hop / rock / reggae at least half the time.

2. Hotels or US quality apartment with at least about 500 sq ft, with quality beds, showers etc. , with excellent AC and WiFi. Not particularly interested in chain or brand name hotels....but willing to consider them.

Budget for accommodations is US $75-$100 a Day. I plan to be in SDQ for about 2 weeks with maybe a side trip to a Punta Cana resort for 3-4 nights. (FYI, I have quite a few sort of GF's and contacts from my past 5 months of total stay in the POP area during the last 4 years.[/QUOTE]1. best bet would be zona colonial. A lot of restaurants and small clubs, but will be hard finding the music your looking for. Youll find that on venseula ave but not a good place to stay. Gazcue would be another good place to stay, good restaurants and a safe neighborhood but no clubs or discos. Its right next to zona colonial another neighborhhod to stay at would be Naco.

2. number of name brand hotels in gazcue, look on the net or airbnb it. I would airbnb it.

[QUOTE=Luffyx;2099264]Hello Global,

I can't PM you, that don't work, maybe you you can PM me, I'm interested by the mamasan number please![/QUOTE]You can only exchange PMs if you are a member Luff.

You need to pay the $25 and then you can get numbers from guys like Global.

Me and a buddy went there today. A tout tried to take us there from yesterday, but I told my friend we need to go alone. I am trying to teach him something. Tout said $100 USD for a girl in the Mansion. Price today for us was 2,000 pesos for short time. Today was Sunday and they only had 2 girls. I asked and the girl said there is 5 girls working at the place. The guy running the show is from Haiti, and he said he will have new girls tomorrow night. We decided to take the girls, but my friend highly insisted on the girl that I wanted. That bastard. My room was OK, seems to have potential, but needs maintenance. My air conditioner worked, but in my friends room it didn't. Karma!. We both got average service, and we both got BBBJ. I've had 3 girls here in Santo Domingo lately and my friend had 1 girl, and they all gave BBBJ. That is a very good ratio for the moment. Hmmm. No kissing so far though. I guess I am not as handsome as I used to be. LOL. If you are trying to figure out which building the Mansion is, the wall facing the street is painted blue, and had a weird looking round portal for the gate.

The EASY directions. I wish other members would use a Google Maps spot to make it easy to find a place. Search Google Maps in the Santo Domingo area for 'Restaurant Extra China' The Mansion is on Calle 9 W about 60 meters North of 'Carr. Mela' on the left side. The wall to the street is painted blue and has an unusual round shaped portal. Push the obvious to see door ringer button. Uber from Hotel Riazor is about 215 pesos. We went on a Sunday. I can't imagine the traffic if going there on a weekday. The Uber cost would probably be much higher also.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;2099703]1. best bet would be zona colonial. A lot of restaurants and small clubs, but will be hard finding the music your looking for. Youll find that on venseula ave but not a good place to stay. Gazcue would be another good place to stay, good restaurants and a safe neighborhood but no clubs or discos. Its right next to zona colonial another neighborhhod to stay at would be Naco.

2. number of name brand hotels in gazcue, look on the net or airbnb it. I would airbnb it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the helpful info. Based on your input I am now looking at the brand name hotels like Renaissance and Marriott BUT I don't know if they are GF! Any thoughts?

Also, should I consider all inclusive in Boca Chica like Be Live for a few days since I have not been there either. I will have one of my former chica with me for a week or so and then I will try out 3-4 of my other contacts who I have been in conversation with for many months.

[QUOTE=Haven123;2101257]Thanks for the helpful info. Based on your input I am now looking at the brand name hotels like Renaissance and Marriott BUT I don't know if they are GF! Any thoughts?

Also, should I consider all inclusive in Boca Chica like Be Live for a few days since I have not been there either. I will have one of my former chica with me for a week or so and then I will try out 3-4 of my other contacts who I have been in conversation with for many months.[/QUOTE]Boca Chica is fun for a few days, at most. Most ordinary hotels there should be GF, but I understand the resorts are a different story. In any case, I'm not sure what advantage all-inclusive may offer as lodging, food and drink is reasonable in this place. The girls are thick as flies on short a stretch of Duarte and it helps to have lodging nearby, in my experience. This is a very low-brow place to visit for the cheap female company, as the beach is nothing special.

[QUOTE=Haven123;2101257]Thanks for the helpful info. Based on your input I am now looking at the brand name hotels like Renaissance and Marriott BUT I don't know if they are GF! Any thoughts?

Also, should I consider all inclusive in Boca Chica like Be Live for a few days since I have not been there either. I will have one of my former chica with me for a week or so and then I will try out 3-4 of my other contacts who I have been in conversation with for many months.[/QUOTE]You won't find any brand name hotels in the colonial zone. Unless things have changed since I last man there. The Marriott was not CF. Also when you get an all inclusive in Boca Chica it's not CF.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2101305]You won't find any brand name hotels in the colonial zone. Unless things have changed since I last man there. The Marriott was not CF. Also when you get an all inclusive in Boca Chica it's not CF.[/QUOTE]Not us brands but there are Sofitel. Used to have a mercure as well.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2101305]The Marriott was not CF.[/QUOTE]No problem bringing chicks into the Marriott. You just have to sign them in and leave their ID at the front desk.

Hey gents I braved a 2nd trip to DR.

Arrived in SD 3 days ago to Puta Cana straight from UK, went to SD-got picked up by my man and met up with my very hot cupid girl who I've known for a while-she decided upfront she didn't want novio etc so she presented me with 3 options-her bestie is bangin so we all went out 1st night-.

Success-me / her got along great-but now the original started txting me she acted in haste and she really liked me and saying shit like her bestie never has stable relations! Lool.

They gamin each other.

Bestie came to Jaragua and is 19-body and face so hot. Left after few hours of bed action.

That situation has now gone left but first one is now setting me up with her sister! They are industrious for sure.

A second Cupid girl I had been talking to is totally opposite. Good hearted girl,22,indigena. Religous. Humble student. Body bananas but I discovered only had sex 1 nce before!

What an extreme. We managed to make it to no 2 but took some serious persuasion. She lives with big sister who is like her mom.

Totally sheltered. Will take some breaking in.

Last night I went to Avenida Pasteur alone-walked from Jaragua. That road at night is kinda shady. Lots of touts etc. I felt like I was going to be fightin if I walked the entire avenida late. Alot of eyes on me.

Im 6'6 and an ex kickboxer for almost 10 years so im not really intimidated and I pass for South american but for sure at times I sensed some danger-be a fool not to-its clearly a very fast place full of suffering SD..and zona colonial is like a buffet for small time hustlers like zona sul in Rio....also had a few run ins on Independencia day time...it gets kinda dark there walking as has no street lights hardly.......couple people following etc come out of nowhere etc but again nothing unusual...

Went to LA 21. Was only guy like in a fish tank surrounded by 20 chicas.

Some ok ones but left and went to place next door.

Only 5 chicas but found bangin one from Venezuela. Bubble butt and rack just dumb. Natural.

Latina morena.

Fun vibe.

Damage was 4 k for 3 hours take out last night.

We went to motel next to LA21.

Was a good session with BBBJ and alot of positions-enthusiastic performer. No CIM.

On her body though.

Might repeat.

Saw a cheaper place on Malecon. Oase. Oasis? Not sure. Was 3 k for take out. 2 hours.

Nice chicas.

Might go tonight.

More cupid non-pros today comin to Jaragua. Its GF. I don't even register them tbh. Just go up or enter through garden.

Nice places to eat on Independencia. 2 spots. Very popular one for local food.

By pasteur.

Any suggestions for cheaper casas with more negras / ghetto vibe etc would be great!

Any other good casas for morenas escuras and mulatas / haitians. Negras etc.

In Rio I have luck at those spots.

I'm still tryina figure out the vibe in DR. Its v different to BR. Bit subdued and Americanized. But lovely chicas for sure.

Weather is mixed bag.

I am at hotel till Saturday. Flying to Medellin Colombia on Tuesday.

Any suggestions for Saturday till Monday?

Got a very hot one from Puerto Plata-she wanted 5 k to come 2 full days to SD and do whatever.

I havent agreed yet.

I did have a little novia in Francisco De Macorix but not sure I wanna go there-its depressing place.

ID like to visit some other parts. Weather looks bad everywhere this time. I'm cursed! LOL.

Any ideas most welcome. Got to fill up Saturday till I fly Tuesday midday.

Thank you gents.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2103629]A second Cupid girl I had been talking to is totally opposite. Good hearted girl,22,indigena. Religous.[/QUOTE]She is Black with a little bit of White. The Native population was pretty much wiped out by the time they decided to go get the Africans.

So yesterday a cupid chica ID been speaking to since before my last trip came over to Jaragua.

I paid her cab which was 500 pesos.

As soon as we got in the room she was tonguing me down-gave me a BBBJ and is one of those horny plus sized girls.

We fucked for a long time and in the shower and again on the bed and went out to eat by avenida pasteur.

She started to irritate me a bit so I called an uber for her after the snack.

Good afternoon nut though.

The torrential rain put me off last night.

Today The Puerto Plata chica suddenly hit me and she was on the way from Romana to SD!

She offered me 2 hours for 3000!

I said I needed 3. She agreed but said no chupa sin condom. No CIM.

I said no way. She said ok chupa sin mas no CIM. I said no. She how much extra. Gtfooh! LOL.

She works in Romana, Santiago and Merengue in Sosua. Absolutely bangin latina. 23 years old.

Maybe another time.

I went to eat at my GF's house in Mata Hambre. In the hood.

Great. Walked her to her Uni Autonomous Uni of SD. So many girls staring. Crazy.

Waited for her to go to class and downstairs in the entrance I sat down next to a super hot latina with pitch black eyes and a dumb body.

Psychology student so lots in common. Got her whatsapp and we are goin out. A haitiana next to her kept looking over. She had a fattie and a nice smile so when one left she gave ne her FB.

I'm warning to this place. So many hot girls. Not difficult at all.

I can communicate as I'm fluent in portugues so its close.

A hot girl from Santiago very eager to come down. 19. Beautiful latina. Doesn't want money. Just bus fare and a chance to enjoy SD.

My negra from St Cristobal who I never smashed hit me and wants to come hang at Jaragua.

My ex GF in Franciso de macoris' aunt who I know from Santiago been talking to me on whatsapp. She said forget her niece she has another niece whos graduationg uni, beautiful and kind. 24.

So been talking to her and she is great.

This place is possibly crazier than Brazil for linking non pros. Well they are more semi here due to the rampant poverty so that is a difference.

Any suggestions for some hood termas? Some good putarias not in zona colonial?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2104111]So yesterday a cupid chica ID been speaking to since before my last trip came over to Jaragua.

I paid her cab which was 500 pesos. She started to irritate me a bit so I called an uber for her after the snack.[/QUOTE]How much was the Uber going back? Most chicks that come see me at Jaragua are usually charged 200 for the taxi, so your girl must have lived really far to be paying 500.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2104111]Any suggestions for some hood termas? Some good putarias not in zona colonial?[/QUOTE]GBP is the place that I swear by. You can scroll down a few posts to see where it was discussed when Gagoo was in town.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2104153]How much was the Uber going back? Most chicks that come see me at Jaragua are usually charged 200 for the taxi, so your girl must have lived really far to be paying 500.

GBP is the place that I swear by. You can scroll down a few posts to see where it was discussed when Gagoo was in town.[/QUOTE]GBP?- says permanently closed.

The mansion -same price as LA21 and spot next door.

Cupid girl She lives far. It was 450 but we said 500. Not in uber cause it for some reason was having issues pinpointing her spot.

Return was cheaper with uber. Prob half. But 1000 pesos all in all was a great afternoon for GFE sex unhurried with no timer.

Renaissance Jaragua is def GF.

I had 2 female friends up at the same time-both just left cedulas. First night I came.

I mean there are pros all over the Casino with the hotel"s blessing so hardly discrete.

Any doubt I just use rear entrance at Independencia and go straight up the elevator and never see reception.

Fcuk them-we paying. They need the business.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2104160]GBP?- says permanently closed.[/QUOTE]What says permanently closed? If you read Gagoo's post I think he said google maps was telling him that. I sent the bartender a message and she said they were open as always. He went the day after. It is a flaw in whatever is telling you it is closed down.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2104160]Renaissance Jaragua is def GF. Any doubt I just use rear entrance at Independencia and go straight up the elevator and never see reception.[/QUOTE]If you are talking about the main elevators right in front of reception, many times there is a guy standing there in case you try just that. There is a service elevator that I use in the back where I come in after parking the car, but I think that one closes at 8 or 9 pm.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2104111]

Great. Walked her to her Uni Autonomous Uni of SD. So many girls staring. Crazy.

Waited for her to go to class and downstairs in the entrance I sat down next to a super hot latina with pitch black eyes and a dumb body.

Psychology student so lots in common. Got her whatsapp and we are goin out. A haitiana next to her kept looking over. She had a fattie and a nice smile so when one left she gave ne her FB.

I'm warning to this place. So many hot girls. Not difficult at all.[/QUOTE]UASD Is an absolute gold mine or even just for eye candy. One girl I hooked up with, I drove her and her friends home -- after I dropped her off first, her friends were trying to get at me. So true with your similar situation.

[QUOTE]
This place is possibly crazier than Brazil for linking non pros. Well they are more semi here due to the rampant poverty so that is a difference.

Any suggestions for some hood termas? Some good putarias not in zona colonial?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Brazil is quite poor too, so what else makes the difference do your think?

For casa other than GBP, try Pink Pony on Av. Nunez de Caceres, 1. 5 block south of John F Kennedy. Look for a 2 story Chinese restaurant called DIA a DIA on the east side of the street. About 50 yards south, on the same side, is Pink Pony on the 2nd floor (outside staircase). Not sure if it's hood enough for you though!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2104182]What says permanently closed? If you read Gagoo's post I think he said google maps was telling him that. I sent the bartender a message and she said they were open as always. He went the day after. It is a flaw in whatever is telling you it is closed down.

If you are talking about the main elevators right in front of reception, many times there is a guy standing there in case you try just that. There is a service elevator that I use in the back where I come in after parking the car, but I think that one closes at 8 or 9 pm.[/QUOTE]Good stuff. Ill try it.

Thanks.

Re Jaragua I only ever registered the 2 girls 1st night.

Ever since we walk in-straight past reception. Back entrance is good. The guy at elevator just smiles. Aint said shit. Mind you I'm bringin chicas daytime mainly. Its been perfect so far.

The reception call up when theres someone to visit me and still don't have to register them.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;2104205]UASD Is an absolute gold mine or even just for eye candy. One girl I hooked up with, I drove her and her friends home -- after I dropped her off first, her friends were trying to get at me. So true with your similar situation.

Brazil is quite poor too, so what else makes the difference do your think?

For casa other than GBP, try Pink Pony on Av. Nunez de Caceres, 1. 5 block south of John F Kennedy. Look for a 2 story Chinese restaurant called DIA a DIA on the east side of the street. About 50 yards south, on the same side, is Pink Pony on the 2nd floor (outside staircase). Not sure if it's hood enough for you though![/QUOTE]Thank you Parkinson!

In my very limited experience here, the very religious upbringing definetely shapes the girls in relation to their families and not sleeping over etc.

This applies to Rio too.

My experiences with girls from other states in Brazil was more like the girls here comin from out of town.......staying over....no problems.

I'm talking non pros here.

Obviously the country opportunists will come and stay over as its a part-time(or full time) job fuckin gringos in town or for SD girls to get night out sponsored by gringo without even so much as a thank you!some!

They seem more subdued in their vibe than Brazilians. Like a place guys come and get their hopes up and then leave em and go back to US so now they get what they can. LOL.

Brazil due to its size and size of identity feels less like that.Sure girls wanna leave for US but many stay and get on with it.

DR feels like US's backyard...left behind as opposed to PR in terms of them having passports.....maybe like Tangier in Morroco..dudes standing at the harbor over to Spain dreaming....Of course dominicans have their culture etc but its heavily Americanized in a way Brazil isnt.

Some. This time I met some great, honest, beautiful hard working girls.

Whod never ask me for shit,who feel guilty accepting expensive gifts when a normal one can be bought...Real salt of the earth girls.....

Definetely warming to this place.

UASD and Mata Hambre made my trip human and opened my eyes to the insane amount of hungry girls.

I'm honestly not even doing hoes.

I had One from Venezuela the 2nd night near LA21 but the rest are just normal non pros.

The first many times in Rio was just hoe runs...Here it dont even feel necessary tbh..girls here are more approachable than in Rio....only due to social media do I win in Brazil..Thats just the honest truth..of course ive met girls out but here its just a supermarket...

Rio now for me is largely non-pro...couple hoes get hit but 90/10.

This stage took longer to get to than in DR...im there on my 2nd visit with my portugues helping me with Spanish!

The concept of traveling to SD from El Campo to be treated by a gringo and leave the 3 month old baby at home(girl from Santiago tomorrow..damn man) is appealing to many.

Comin home with some $ is bonus or a regalo...either way feels different to hour terma.

One is comin from Santiago tomorrow. No money just treating her.
Apart from Caribe ticket to and from Santiago.

My GF ffrom UASD came today and has to leave early cause her big sister doesn't like her out late. LOL.

Afternoon nut at Jaragua.

Perfect for me because I can go out at night and I dont like girls staying over always.

This place has so much potential for non pros and occasional semi pros, I don't think ID bang a pro if I stayed here. You swimmin in women like a life guard. They want a guy to treat them right.

Its not hard.

DR women are very submisisve when they are your girlfriend. They will screw all night. I think it is because of the Latin macihismo. The women compete with there sexuality. When they commit it is a 100%. Having a DR girlfriend comes with more strings then I want. The semi pros provide a great GFE experience without the strings. I will not lead a girl on just to get in her pants. For non pros hooking up with a gringo is like finding a bank. Most of us have no idea how little these ladies have. Working girls make less then 200 a month working 44 hours plus. So when they have an oppurtunity to hookup they are motivated.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2104492]DR women are very submisisve when they are your girlfriend. They will screw all night. I think it is because of the Latin macihismo. The women compete with there sexuality. When they commit it is a 100%. Having a DR girlfriend comes with more strings then I want. The semi pros provide a great GFE experience without the strings. I will not lead a girl on just to get in her pants. For non pros hooking up with a gringo is like finding a bank. Most of us have no idea how little these ladies have. Working girls make less then 200 a month working 44 hours plus. So when they have an oppurtunity to hookup they are motivated.[/QUOTE]Very true OldKool.

I can feel the constant obsessing about me from my GF-its definetely too much. Txting constantly. Def got that in common with brazilians! LOL.

Sufe fire way to kill a good thing. OD.

The semi-pros def seem like the way-part-time GF when it suits you.

Today was a SD type day.

The girl from San Cristobal was supposed to hit me at 3 to grab uber after she had be hittin me since 11 am to find out when we were goin out. LOL.

Didnt hear back.Have known her on whatsapp for 6 months.

Blocked her at 5pm.

The girl from Santiago couldn't get her kid looked after so is coming tomorrow.

Or I could go there for her and another.

My GF wanted to come over but I was in the mood for sth new.

My prospective one in Franc**** de macoris has gripe and might be down to come tomorrow.

Fuuuuuck! LOL might just hit the knock shops tonight-I'm feelin fluey myself.

Goin Medellin Tuesday.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2104780]The girl from San Cristobal was supposed to hit me at 3 to grab uber after she had be hittin me since 11 am to find out when we were goin out. LOL.

Didnt hear back.Have known her on whatsapp for 6 months.

Blocked her at 5pm.[/QUOTE]And this is exactly why you better have a backup and a backup to the backup, and know where a fuckhouse is in case she does not come through either. You can talk to those chicks 6 times a day when you are back home and they are doing nothing but twiddling their fingers, then all of a sudden when you arrive all kinds of problems come up or they go dark.

Like you said, block them. There is no excuse whatsoever. Now if you are like me and just pop up in town and say hey I'm here, come over then you might give them some leeway (I don't - they better be like minutemen dealing with me - ready at a moment's notice), but when you have planned out a time and how she will be arriving and all that shit and she bullshits around then fuck em.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2104793]And this is exactly why you better have a backup and a backup to the backup, and know where a fuckhouse is in case she does not come through either. You can talk to those chicks 6 times a day when you are back home and they are doing nothing but twiddling their fingers, then all of a sudden when you arrive all kinds of problems come up or they go dark.

Like you said, block them. There is no excuse whatsoever. Now if you are like me and just pop up in town and say hey I'm here, come over then you might give them some leeway (I don't - they better be like minutemen dealing with me - ready at a moment's notice), but when you have planned out a time and how she will be arriving and all that shit and she bullshits around then fuck em.[/QUOTE]I Agree totally. I had the Cristobal broad flake but a negra from Cristobal who I didn't get to see last time (my fault) -wanted to come so you are right. And she is here.

Its definetely a plan A,B,C country with a fuckhouse as back up.

Tomorrow my GF from Mata Hambre comes so no problemas.

The girl from Santiago is meant to come tomorrow later but not holding my breath!

Its different here.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;204ze111]So yesterday a cupid chica ID been speaking to since before my last trip came over to Jaragua.

I paid her cab which was 500 pesos.

As soon as we got in the room she was tonguing me down-gave me a BBBJ and is one of those horny plus sized girls.

We fucked for a long time and in the shower and again on the bed and went out to eat by avenida pasteur.

She started to irritate me a bit so I called an uber for her after the snack.

Good afternoon nut though.

The torrential rain put me off last night.

Today The Puerto Plata chica suddenly hit me and she was on the way from Romana to SD!

She offered me 2 hours for 3000!.[/QUOTE]Try villa guana there is a bar there called el cache aka el scorpion ask your local taxi. Over 40 girls to be had. Dominican night club style I think you like something not tourist minded then you'll fit in.

It's Villa Juana. Most of the bars, discos, and clubs of the sort you describe are west of Maximo Gomez in the barrio called Ensanche La Fe. Villa Juana is more residential but there are some spots. You can also go to Executive on Marginal Norte near the intersection of San Vicente and Las Americas but their quality went down recently at the same time they raised their rate to 2,000 pesos. Executive has a mostly local clientele.

[QUOTE=Torso8;2104873]Try villa guana there is a bar there called el cache aka el scorpion ask your local taxi. Over 40 girls to be had. Dominican night club style I think you like something not tourist minded then you'll fit in.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, Torso, I will check it out when I am there at the end of the month. Old Kool and Mr. E, you are making good points, as usual. I have some regular semi pros on the roster that take good care of me but always looking for the new pair of double or triple dees to add to the list. This time I will be spending more time in Santiago, too, flying into STI for the first time so that I'll see how that goes. This will be my eighth trip in three years. I am starting to like the DR more than the PI despite the language challenge. Whattsapp and dominican cupid are great. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Torso8;2104873]Try villa guana there is a bar there called el cache aka el scorpion ask your local taxi. Over 40 girls to be had. Dominican night club style I think you like something not tourist minded then you'll fit in.[/QUOTE]

So my 2nd trip is coming to an end.

I'm still not totally comfortable yet I must admit. The vibe of the girls is so different from BR.

I have yet to visite PP,Sosua or spend any real time in Santiago..

But I did come in contact with some salt of the earth girls.

One is a GF from mata hambre who brought me soup when I had flu and insisted on returning a bathing suit I bought her cause it was too expensive.

Second was a girl from Santiago who was coming down and I sent her 500 for bus-her mom couldn't look after her 3 month old baby so she insisted on returning my money as she didn't want me thinkin she was talking to me for money.

She insisted.

And did.

Impressed.

Some real hustlers too. Visited a real stunner in tres brazos. Proper ghetto vibe. Reminds me of Rochina or Cidade de deus in Rio. Got showed alot of love by family.

I'm still up in the air but I can see how with good game and fluent spanish you guys can have more quality ass than you can handle. Bodies here are amazing!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2104793]And this is exactly why you better have a backup and a backup to the backup, and know where a fuckhouse is in case she does not come through either. You can talk to those chicks 6 times a day when you are back home and they are doing nothing but twiddling their fingers, then all of a sudden when you arrive all kinds of problems come up or they go dark.

Like you said, block them. There is no excuse whatsoever. Now if you are like me and just pop up in town and say hey I'm here, come over then you might give them some leeway (I don't - they better be like minutemen dealing with me - ready at a moment's notice), but when you have planned out a time and how she will be arriving and all that shit and she bullshits around then fuck em.[/QUOTE]IMO, this is the single best advice you will get if you want to meet up with non pros or semi pros in the DR, whether via Cupid sites or social media, irrespective of how long you have communicated with them. 1/3 of the time or even 50 pc of the time ' no shows' is hardly unusual. Rain, babysitter, don't have money for moto or carrito, gripe, any and all kinds of reasons / excuses at the last minute. And usually they will never even tell you until you call or text and ask where are you?

Frustrating as hell.

1. Anyone have any experience staying at Barcelo downtown SD? Love to know how it was.

2. Have a tentative res in Dec for Gran Bahia Principe in Punta Caa all incl for two, and plan to take one chica with me. Any experiences staying there and transportation using Bavaro Express bus from SD to Punta Cana.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Haven123;2105218]1. Anyone have any experience staying at Barcelo downtown SD? Love to know how it was.[/QUOTE]I went by once when my brother was staying there. Pool area was nice although there are a lot of steps leading to it. Rooms leave something to be desired though. If it is more than $50 I would not stay there. Also the parking spaces were really narrow. SUV parked next to me while I was gone so I had to get into my car on the passenger side when I returned.

[QUOTE=Haven123;2105218]2. Have a tentative res in Dec for Gran Bahia Principe in Punta Caa all incl for two, and plan to take one chica with me. Any experiences staying there and transportation using Bavaro Express bus from SD to Punta Cana.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Stayed at Bahia a year and half ago. Very nice resort. Rooms are nice, the food was delicious in the main dining room. The restaurants not so much. Be sure to reserve your restaurants when you get there. Seats go fast and they are very strict at the restaurants about seating, very strict no reservation no seats even if the restaurant is empty! Barvaro express is really easy to take. Only took it from pc to sd, buses are the best have wifi and outlets on the buses. Very easy to take taxi to the resort from the station about 10-15 min ride.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2105241]I went by once when my brother was staying there. Pool area was nice although there are a lot of steps leading to it. Rooms leave something to be desired though. If it is more than $50 I would not stay there. Also the parking spaces were really narrow. SUV parked next to me while I was gone so I had to get into my car on the passenger side when I returned.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your feddback Mr. Ent. I won't be driving and the steps (and maybe it's a bit slippery as well?) I think I can handle.

However, when you say the rooms left something to be desired, do you by any chance recall anything in particular.

I realize it's an older property (so not modern or refurbished) and some of the reviews on Trip Advisor said that the Internet drops off when not used in over an hour and you have use the password again. Also, rooms on the highway side were a bit noisy etc.

But, I did see folks say bath and showers were decent with large walk in shower etc.

So, in comparison to say Casa Cayena (about 1 yr ago when we both stayed there during Wilfried's mgmt) what do you think of the Barcelo.

I would imagine Barcelo rooms are somewhat better than Casa Cayena? Do you recall how the AC was when your brother was there's by any chance. The place is also quite close to the Bavaro Express terminal and seems to have a decent piano bar and restaurant (although somewhat pricey).

Since I will be there for at least 9 nights I am trying to be well researched and any input would be helpful. I can cancel either reservation without any penalty.

I hope to have my friend from Santiago there for at least 1 week and if all goes well, I'll see if she wants to extend and go to Punta Caña with me! And yes, I have backups and more backups! Haha Thanks again!

Can you share your experience please including places to pick girls and prices. Am heading there in Jan.

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2062653]Hi everyone,

New to the site, and this is my first post. I have been scrolling through this thread because I am wanting to go to Santo Domingo in late September (first trip to DR) and the only reason I came really going is because of what I've heard about the women there! Forgive me I'm not up on the shorthand and codes you guys use here, so I was hoping someone could give me some advice and tips on the following subjects:

Best hotel or accommodations to stay in that are nice but not expensive and will not have problems with girls coming over.

Best ways to find quality women (areas of town or websites?

What to expect to SP me so I can budget properly.

Also I'm a heavy weed smoker so hoping there is easy access to that as well.

Any advice is much appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2104160]GBP?- says permanently closed.

The mansion -same price as LA21 and spot next door.

Cupid girl She lives far. It was 450 but we said 500. Not in uber cause it for some reason was having issues pinpointing her spot.

Return was cheaper with uber. Prob half. But 1000 pesos all in all was a great afternoon for GFE sex unhurried with no timer.

Renaissance Jaragua is def GF.

I had 2 female friends up at the same time-both just left cedulas. First night I came.

I mean there are pros all over the Casino with the hotel"s blessing so hardly discrete.

Any doubt I just use rear entrance at Independencia and go straight up the elevator and never see reception.

Fcuk them-we paying. They need the business.[/QUOTE]It might say closed on Google Maps. But it is open for sure. I went again 2 nights ago. That was my 3rd trip there in the last few weeks. It always seems to have different girls in there with a few that are the same. So, there always seems to new girls to fuck. I would say most aren't good looking, but there are always a few fuckable ones.

I'm currently in S.D. - arrived yesterday. Staying in Zona Colonial / malecon area. Any strip club recommendations?

[QUOTE=Joe100;2108134]I'm currently in S.D. - arrived yesterday. Staying in Zona Colonial / malecon area. Any strip club recommendations?[/QUOTE]Do you want to see stripping or do you want to do some fucking? I think there used to be stripping in the defunct Doll House, but all the other places I have been to there are just chicks waiting around for customers to fuck. Never really any stripping going on. Pink Pony maybe. I just left and came to Boca Chica. Will be back later on tonight if you need me to show you any spots.

Thanks for responding Mr. E. - appreciate it. I guess I have been spoilt on previous trips to other destinations. I like the strip bars. Can enjoy the view and a few cold ones. If I get horny, then I might take it further.

Went to Av. Pasteur. But probably the wrong time of day (early afternoon). There seemed to be 2 x places. One was closed, the other was too but they lined up 3 girls for me. That sort of set up just doesn't do it for me.

Thanks for your kind offer but I'm knackered. Will probably just get a couple of beers in and get up early tomorrow and go to Boca Chica.

Guys,

Really need some help here. I am booked to arrive early Jan to SD. Now, I don't speak Spanish and I will only be in town for 4 nights. What I'm looking for is p4 p only for day time and night action. Can you please recommend bars and places to pick up from, rates for ST & LT. Another point worth mentioning, I prefer to take the girsl back to my hotel.

I would really appreciate it as I have read the boards and not much on here on bars and clubs. Am close to changing my plans to Soasua and don't really want to.

Thanks chaps.

[QUOTE=AlexDee;2108244]Guys,

Really need some help here. I am booked to arrive early Jan to SD. [b]Now, I don't speak Spanish and I will only be in town for 4 nights. What I'm looking for is p4 p only for day time and night action. Can you please recommend bars and places to pick up from, rates for ST & LT. Another point worth mentioning, I prefer to take the girsl back to my hotel.[/b]

I would really appreciate it as I have read the boards and not much on here on bars and clubs. Am close to changing my plans to Soasua and don't really want to.

Thanks chaps.[/QUOTE]Trust us on this one bro: based on what you wrote, Sosua is EXACTLY where you need to be my friend, LOL! You are just asking for a shitty first trip to the DR otherwise. You can still fly into SD and take the bus to Sosua, but as a first timer I would definitely recommend flying into POP if you are able to.

Others here have better info on how to get there by bus. I've only flown into POP.

Get a $35/ night room in one of the hotels on or near the Conde. There are plenty of girls to be had for 1,000 to 1500 pesos who work the Conde. You'll find somebody you like. Sit at any outdoor table and they will come to you. There are many many more girls available in Santo Domingo than there are in Sosua. Sosua is more of a stocked pond because girls who aren't working are very rare there.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2108251]Trust us on this one bro: based on what you wrote, Sosua is EXACTLY where you need to be my friend, LOL! You are just asking for a shitty first trip to the DR otherwise. You can still fly into SD and take the bus to Sosua, but as a first timer I would definitely recommend flying into POP if you are able to.

Others here have better info on how to get there by bus. I've only flown into POP.[/QUOTE].

If your flight is set get a hotel on El Conde the zona colona. Spend the night there go to Sosua in the morning on Carib tours. Buses start leaving as early as 6 in the morning. It is 4 or 5 hour ride. The ride has great views of the real DR. I think you will enjoy the ride. The bus is about 400 pesos and are clean and comfortable.

There are decent SWs on El Conde and the massage girls will go back to your hotel for 2000 pesos. These is cafe called Pacos on El Conde where SWs post all day. 2 or 3 at a time. You do not need spanish to be successful in Sosua. There about 200 plus girls waiting for you. SD is great if you have contacts and speak Spanish. If you stayig in SD then go to the malls which nice and the casinos in the evening. I understand the Jaraaqua hotel and casino has decent action action. All girls will go back to your room.

I would suggest you catch the Metro bus because it makes less stops and takes you directly into Sosua. Carib tours drops you in Charmicos and it can be very overwhelming for a newbie with luggage. With Metro you just walk down the hill a few feet. Metro leaves at 7 am, 11 am and 4 pm. Catch the 7 am and you are on the beach in Sosua by noon. I've caught both and will never catch Carib tours again unless there aren't other options.

I went to the place right next to Foxys tonight (NOT Foxys but the place right next to it. Not sure of the name) down by the Malecon in Zona Colonial. About 10-12 girls there. All decent looking. I don't normally spend $100 but one of the girls kept working my dk long enough that I started thinking with it.

Got to the room and dropped my guard. Let jeans and wallet out of my sight for a short while. 6th sense kicked in and I checked the wallet - 100 euro missing. She magically 'found' it when challenged but no joy on the missing 5000 peso. They heard me out but wouldn't return the 5000.

Lesson learned. I dropped my guard. However, be aware of that place. I'd steer well clear.

[QUOTE=Joe100;2108307]I went to the place right next to Foxys tonight (NOT Foxys but the place right next to it. Not sure of the name) down by the Malecon in Zona Colonial. About 10-12 girls there. All decent looking. I don't normally spend $100 but one of the girls kept working my dk long enough that I started thinking with it.

Got to the room and dropped my guard. Let jeans and wallet out of my sight for a short while. 6th sense kicked in and I checked the wallet - 100 euro missing. She magically 'found' it when challenged but no joy on the missing 5000 peso. They heard me out but wouldn't return the 5000.

Lesson learned. I dropped my guard. However, be aware of that place. I'd steer well clear.[/QUOTE]LOL. You are talking about Oasis. I took some guys there once and the manager said if I bring a person to session, then I get a free session. That should let you know how overpriced the place is.

You should have hit me up man. Me and my girl went to GBP. There were about 30 freaks in there. I have never seen so many chicks in that place. For the $100 that you spent, you could have gotten 4 chicks for the hour AND bought drinks for them (4 chicks 4000 pesos, drinks 200 pesos each = 4800 pesos or $100). And they are some honest hoes. They wouldn't have taken you for the mandatory optional tip that that chick did.

[QUOTE=AlexDee;2108244]Really need some help here. I am booked to arrive early Jan to SD. Now, I don't speak Spanish and I will only be in town for 4 nights. What I'm looking for is p4 p only for day time and night action. Can you please recommend bars and places to pick up from, rates for ST & LT. Another point worth mentioning, I prefer to take the girsl back to my hotel.[/QUOTE]Ditto what SavePros and Old Kool said, plus read Joe 100's last report (reminded me of the bathtub scene on The Mack.) As MrGogo likes to say, Santo Domingo will chew you up and spit you out. Imagine what she could have taken him for had he took her back to his room. But of course you will be taking them back to your room in Sosua just the same. Risks of the hobby.

First time to SD. In Sosua, Cabarete, Pto Pta I always knew where to exchange money for good rates.

Anyone have any suggestions in downtown SD? Are there grocery stores or something like in the Puerto Plata area where you can exchange USD for good rates.

Also, if anyone has any good private drivers with Uber type pricing from airport and within town, that would also be much appreciated. Thanks!

At Mr. E. you're quite right on all counts. Although hindsight is 20/20, I was off my game. The involuntary 'tip' I see as a stupidity tax.

I'm usually the last to pay over the going rate but blood was flowing away from my brain to other parts!

I guess if there is a silver lining, I can thank her / them for me now upping my game. Decided to take the bus to Sosua today. Will still be going to other places over the next couple of weeks but need to get something out of my system.