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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2006545]Heart attacks because of too much Viagra, a guy died like this at LR.[/QUOTE]From too much Viagra alone you don't die if your heart is ok you can take as many pills as you want. Only if you have already a heart problem than Viagra is dangerous.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2006733]From too much Viagra alone you don't die if your heart is ok you can take as many pills as you want. Only if you have already a heart problem than Viagra is dangerous.[/QUOTE]Don't eat the whole box. Better to ask doctor.
[QUOTE=EnderW;2006648]Getting a deep throat increases the risk of catching them as these bacteria grow in girl's throat, not in mouth.
Does anyone know Shark's STD testing policy for WGs? Are WGs required to take tests regularly and submit the results? Does Shark pay for the test or conduct the test on site? Or do girls self test and self report, meaning there is no control?
An incurable form of gonorrhea is rapidly spreading according to DCC and the US started to enforce a mandatory gonorrhea testing for immigrants last year. It is supposed to be more contagious and especially common in Asia. I hope our Asian specialists take further precautions.[/QUOTE]When I speak about medical check with the girls I know a long time, my feeling is that they can do what they want some are doing monthly check up others every 2 months and some very seldom. But all the girls are very careful about their health this is for sure, it is their capital.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2006581]I can't speak for others, but in 15 years in clubs, I have caught nothing except colds (so far...)[/QUOTE]Tell me about it, my cold rate is too high to even mention from these FKK trips. Maybe it is the invincibility factor that makes us think we are superhuman for awhile. Thankfully most of the time the cold kicks in a day or two after I'm back home again. But my boss at work might be a bit worried about it. Happened like 4 times now 😐
Then again, a cold is easy to sleep and sweat off in a day or two...
But they really need to move the north pole elsewhere and further away from europe... we've had our fair share of low temperatures. Maybe it is southern africa's turn now...
[QUOTE=Tedesco;2006594] I was in short talks with Steffi, Romanian. Her face is similar to a German woman "Sandy Meyer-Woelden".[/QUOTE]I cannot see any similarity. In my opinion Steffi looks much better than Sandy M. W.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2006851]Tell me about it, my cold rate is too high to even mention from these FKK trips. Maybe it is the invincibility factor that makes us think we are superhuman for awhile. Thankfully most of the time the cold kicks in a day or two after I'm back home again. But my boss at work might be a bit worried about it. Happened like 4 times now 😐
Then again, a cold is easy to sleep and sweat off in a day or two...
But they really need to move the north pole elsewhere and further away from europe... we've had our fair share of low temperatures. Maybe it is southern africa's turn now...[/QUOTE]I was in Germany six times in 2016; I returned to the states six times with a cough / cold. My only trip so far this year was in January, and no cold. I'm headed to BKK in a couple of days and I'm hoping my streak stays alive.
[QUOTE=EnderW;2006648]Getting a deep throat increases the risk of catching them as these bacteria grow in girl's throat, not in mouth.
Does anyone know Shark's STD testing policy for WGs? Are WGs required to take tests regularly and submit the results? Does Shark pay for the test or conduct the test on site? Or do girls self test and self report, meaning there is no control?
An incurable form of gonorrhea is rapidly spreading according to DCC and the US started to enforce a mandatory gonorrhea testing for immigrants last year. It is supposed to be more contagious and especially common in Asia. I hope our Asian specialists take further precautions.[/QUOTE]Can become a problem for girls health if they don't cure. Better for them to make controls, because they may not feel it.
[QUOTE=MatKojebca;2006528]What happens if you cum after 15 minutes? Do you still get the 30 minutes or is it over?[/QUOTE]Then, better you learn how to control your mind, your breathe, how to harden your belly muscles to be like a rock. When you find a girl with good vagina stamina, if you are able to control, you can have longer time sex with her, rather than rabbit sex. More than 4 hours and 4 rounds with amazing small Katea. Ru, but what a woman vagina. For our 4 hours marathon, she only left the room once, for less than 5 mn to go downstairs to take drinks and to go to toilets, I also needed for toilets like her. Each round, she was more hot, just amazing stamina, fire under Siberian ice. Also 2 rounds for our 2 hours first room with classy Alice. Ro because when she looked at me with her beautiful eyes, I couldn't control first shot, so I apologized to her, asked her if she wanted we had a second round, promised to improve to make second round be longer time to enjoy.
If you prefer to play rabbit, a good test about how girl enjoys, is if she wants to leave the room as soon it s finished, or if she takes time until 30 mn. At Oase or Aca, many girls return after 15 mn, followed by their rabbit. One of my very regular has 3 rooms per hour on Saturday nights. On this Saturday afternoon, I was her second of the day at 4.30 pm for a great 1 hour room, around midnight, I was more than tenth, maybe fifthteenth, and she finished at 4.45 am. Even you are a sex superwoman, you should take care of your health, lovely sexy Kate.
As I understand it, gonorrhoea is not yet incurable, but some strains are developing resistance to one of two remaining antibiotics which should be used in tandem against it.
Use of these two antibiotics together in all cases of gonorrhoea would prevent incurable gonorrhea arriving, but unfortunately there are people prescribing or taking only one of the two and this will result in incurable gonorrhea arriving in the forseeable future.
In certain parts of the world other antibiotics should be used according to local patterns of resistance
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2004310]friendly Ada who comes to me at History now, [/QUOTE]Ada is at Sharks.
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Does anyone know Shark's STD testing policy for WGs? Are WGs required to take tests regularly and submit the results? Does Shark pay for the test or conduct the test on site? Or do girls self test and self report, meaning there is no control?
[/QUOTE]There is no control. In none of the Hessen clubs except Aldi in Dietzenbach, if I am not mistaken. There's no legal obligation for WG to get tested.
HB.
Seems like the shark tank is infested. Guess I should wait till the mgt clean it up before I swim in the tank again, LOL.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2007064]Ada is at Sharks.[/QUOTE]198/ h at History Basel Liestal. Wait for Lorena. Ro, even I wish her very good holidays. I wish she will be one of my birthday present.
[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2006875]I was in Germany six times in 2016; I returned to the states six times with a cough / cold. My only trip so far this year was in January, and no cold. I'm headed to BKK in a couple of days and I'm hoping my streak stays alive.[/QUOTE]Are you getting sick before you leave Germany or after you arrive home? You may be getting sick on the plane which happens to me often.
How long are you in BKK for? Are you coming to Pattaya? We can meet up if you're still around when I arrive. PM me if you want.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2007074]There is no control. In none of the Hessen clubs except Aldi in Dietzenbach, if I am not mistaken. There's no legal obligation for WG to get tested.
HB.[/QUOTE]Never caught anything at Sharks or World or Oase, just sometimes disappointment.
Girls are controlled in Swiss clubs.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2007094]You may be getting sick on the plane which happens to me often.[/QUOTE]It happens to me all the time when I fly overseas and the worst thing is that I need at least 3 4 days before I get back to normal. This is despite loading up on vit C and D, and doing everything else that's in the book. I wish I know the answer how to avoid this. Maybe expose myself to large group of people a week or two before I go on the trip. Next time I'll try echinacea but I am a skeptic.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2007094]Are you getting sick before you leave Germany or after you arrive home? You may be getting sick on the plane which happens to me often.
How long are you in BKK for? Are you coming to Pattaya? We can meet up if you're still around when I arrive. PM me if you want.[/QUOTE]I'm usually starting to feel the onset a few days before I fly out; its possible I caught it on the plane ride in, and / or compounded it by swapping germs with FKK ladies.
Wasn't planning on making it to Pattaya, focusing on BKK. I may PM you if things change.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2007074]There is no control. In none of the Hessen clubs except Aldi in Dietzenbach, if I am not mistaken. There's no legal obligation for WG to get tested.
HB.[/QUOTE]Thank you HB and EL for your insights. I mistakenly thought that the legalization of the brothel in Germany was to control the trade including controlling the spread of STDs and that WGs were tested regularly. I will definitely go get tested this week though I have no symptoms at the moment what so ever, as a precaution.
Others talked about catching cold after FKK but some STDs have very similar symptoms to cold including soar throat and coughing. Nevertheless, you can probably catch flu at the club easier than an STD.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2006717]It's up to you. You could ask girl for light massage or so. Or could chat with girl. Whatever you like. But normally session is one pop especially 1/2 HR.
In some clubs where girls checking at the front desk before and after session they will ask you to stay rest of time in the room.[/QUOTE]Thanks!
How do you keep track of time. Are there watches there?
I think too many girls offer vaginal sex without condom and too many men saying yes to that offer.
Last two years I have had that offer from several girls. I guess they try to earn more money.
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Was at sharks both Saturday 18 and Sunday 19 February.
The breakfast is really great now. Love the different cheese which is available. Had a few sessions. There are many really good looking girls, but few that really stands out, making choosing really hard.
Megan. Megan is quite famous here, but I would not have spotted her if she did not come up and introduce herself. Because of the time I decided to go with her. Orange ish hair (Going from black to blonde to attract Asian guys). Really sweet and really talkative, but kind of boring.
Mila. Thin girl. Pretty crazy. Would repeat for sure.
Rya. Tall blonde. (1,95 cm with heels). A little limited English, but she said she spoke 6-7 other languages and I believe her. Repeat for sure. When I left Sharks in the early night, she spanked my ass and said loud "Until next time!" Funny.
Karolina. Black hair. Sits at the bottom of the stairs with her friend with the glasses which always nags me when I'm in Sharks. Great girl. Sessioned 3 times over 2 days.
Was really dissaPpointed that I did not see Mina or her friend Alexandra. Have they left Sharks?
Also, who are the girl with the high ponytail, usually sits at the sofa at the bottom of the stairs? (Between the pole and the stairs). I tried talking to her a couple of times, but every time she just replied to my "Hi" and urged off in another direction. I saw her earlier that day sitting with a Asian guy in the sofa for hours. She had kind of a model look to her.
The music which is played when girls are at the pole. I noticed two songs they played a lot. One of them was "Yes boss" - Does anyone know what the other is called? Something with m goes again and again.
[QUOTE=FlyByCable;2007296]I think too many girls offer vaginal sex without condom .[/QUOTE]That is true. I've been offered AO with girls in Sharks during my last (and only so far) visit there- see my report. It happens at most if not all clubs especially if you're a regular.
[QUOTE=Tedesco;2006594]Gents, after being in Sharks last Sunday, enjoying an excellent session with Austrian Aileen and Katarzyna of Poland later, I was in short talks with Steffi, Romanian, sitting regularly on the long side of the bar with her back towards the toilette area.
Her face is similar to a German woman "Sandy Meyer-Woelden". Nice tits which she is lifting up from time to time and curling with a finger in her long dark blond hair, beautiful eyes like Bamby in the fairy tale, 160 cm, size 34, speaking German without the typical accent. By the way she seems to be rather alone instead as, also in December kast year, I never recognized another girl close to her.
Does someone knows more about her?[/QUOTE]I don't know much about Steffi, except that I've been with her a few times and I have no regrets. She looks great, no DFK, but an erotic session with lots of eye contact. Last time I met her (about 2 weeks ago) I did not see her go upstairs with anyone else, and I think I was her only customer.
I understand that sitting or walking around with a towel wrapped around her waist is probably not good for business, but apparently there are not many men who are able to see the beauty underneath that towel.
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[QUOTE=FlyByCable;2007296]I think too many girls offer vaginal sex without condom and too many men saying yes to that offer.
Last two years I have had that offer from several girls. I guess they try to earn more money.[/QUOTE]I am visiting FKK since many years never 1 girl offer me to do AO, on the opposite some of my favorites are doing 0 extras, yes even you will pay a lot, obviously those girl have a great business even without extra.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2007433]I don't know much about Steffi, except that I've been with her a few times and I have no regrets. She looks great, no DFK, but an erotic session with lots of eye contact. Last time I met her (about 2 weeks ago) I did not see her go upstairs with anyone else, and I think I was her only customer.
I understand that sitting or walking around with a towel wrapped around her waist is probably not good for business, but apparently there are not many men who are able to see the beauty underneath that towel.[/QUOTE]Pretty natural beauty, but not an attractive behavior in the lounge and no dream for services in room, only friendly sex, so, how many repeat? And so many girls at Sharks, with some new, even not so pretty. Mandy, Sandra, Mersi. Hu, Patricia, are higher DFK GFE in room.
I also got cold during my vacation to Germany.
But I think it has more to do with the difference in temperatures between my home city and Germany.
Germany's temperature is always 10-20 Degrees Celsius lower than my home city.
My first sex vacation to Germany was in early November, 2013.
I was wearing thin cloth due to the temperature being 20 Degrees Celsius in my home town.
And after a painful 12 hours flight to Germany, I was freezing in the 6 Degrees Celsius environment in Frankfurt.
The next day, I started to have a headache, soar throat, etc.
Fortunately, heating and sweating in the Sauna in FKK Sauna clubs helped me recover a bit.
The long flight is also a potential factor to damage your immune system. Bad air ventilation, cold air conditioning, painful tiny seat in the economy class, etc.
Too bad I live in a city where Germany is 12 hours flight away. The round-trip flight takes up to 24 hours in a plane is really a pain in the back.
[QUOTE=MatKojebca;2007236]Thanks!
How do you keep track of time. Are there watches there?[/QUOTE]Have your own watch and look at when entering the room.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2007442]Pretty natural beauty, but not an attractive behavior in the lounge and no dream for services in room, only friendly sex, so, how many repeat with Stefi ? And so many girls at Sharks, with some new, even not so pretty. Mandy, Sandra, Mersi. Hu, Patricia, are higher DFK GFE in room.[/QUOTE]Another girl who doesn't know how to behave in attractive way in lounge, even no towel around like Bianka, but really good level in room, is tall blond, blue eyes, some tattoos, Erika. Ro, really nice girl usually sitting at the bar on entry side. No problem for kissing with her. She should be a superstar at Sharks, prettier than average and higher level for sex. Not high sensuality yet, but a real woman for vagina and sexual potential.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2007444]I also got cold during my vacation to Germany.[/QUOTE]I avoid getting colds and flus by doing two things. First, get enough rest! Don't try to close down the club every night. If you do that, then you're just going to run your body down and weaken its natural defenses against illness. And second, I gargle regularly with Listerine, including at my hotel. This kills germs hiding on your tonsils and preparing to spread and make you sick. By doing these two things, I have avoided catching cold and flu while mongering over the last 10 years! No, it took a lot of cigarette smoke at Artemis to make me get sick!
[QUOTE=NickTheG;1988856]Another girl named Amalia (half romanian, half greek, hair dyed blonde) told me the same: 30 minutes is just for blow job and fuck. Kissing only when I go with her for one hour. I told her: sorry, I don't want to support this business scheme and finished the conversation![/QUOTE]She did the same to me on Monday. She is the first ever girl to pre-emptively tell me within the first 1 minute that we met that kissing is not allowed unless I commit to 1 hour. So, like you, I passed immediately. It was only the next day when re-reading this forum that I found out that she, and her sister, had pretty good reports. Pity, as I usually do 1 hour or more anyway without the girl asking for it.
The couches under the fish tank were quite empty in the afternoon and early evening. Maybe the girls are avoiding that area after hearing about the reports about no-kissing girls there. Edith, for example, prowled in the bar area.
Dinner was the best I have had in Sharks so far. Juicy chicken drumstick, pork and another meat. And I notice that they now top up that water dispenser at the entrance quite frequently. Wise thing to do as it avoids having water drinkers like me adding to the queue at the bar.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2007436]I am visiting FKK since many years never 1 girl offer me to do AO, on the opposite some of my favorites are doing 0 extras, yes even you will pay a lot, obviously those girl have a great business even without extra.[/QUOTE]Wow really? I only visit FKKs 4 times a year but every time I have at least 1 offer me AO. Not limited to just Sharks. Maybe I attract business from the AO girls LOL. I have my sets of regulars but every once in awhile I venture out and get a new girl here and there. Even then I'm sure most of my regulars would agree to AO if I really wanted it.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2007587]She did the same to me on Monday. She is the first ever girl to pre-emptively tell me within the first 1 minute that we met that kissing is not allowed unless I commit to 1 hour. So, like you, I passed immediately. It was only the next day when re-reading this forum that I found out that she, and her sister, had pretty good reports. Pity, as I usually do 1 hour or more anyway without the girl asking for it..[/QUOTE]At Sharks is more or less the general rule (exception well-known regulars for this girl) that the girls include DFK only at one hour sessions or longer sessions or for extra. Even top providers like Paloma or Mia now follow this rule.
This one hour proposals have changed within a few months even. There have been several I met from my recent and more so than the last. In the past it was a select few over several visits over a longer period of time. Fair amount definitely goes on at Sharks and recently noticed with the new girls. Certainly have increased over time.
Only World I haven't run into this.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2007594]At Sharks is more or less the general rule (exception well-known regulars for this girl) that the girls include DFK only at one hour sessions or longer sessions or for extra. Even top providers like Paloma or Mia now follow this rule.[/QUOTE]I'm not anymore a regular since September, with only 3 visits, but for my last visit on February, no girl who came to me, told me about this new Sharks rule? Amalia and Eliv proposing me a 2 sisters fantasy, didn't say kissing for only 1 hour. For our first room, Mandy didn't ask how long I wanted to stay and I decided to take my time with her for 1 hour, just because of her kissing GFE behavior I enjoyed. Blond Erika. Ro didn't ask about time when she was at GT, to kiss me and she is good in room.
Biggest problem for me is not girls services quality and I was even surprised many girls coming to me, were really lovely, smiling, not pushing too much hunting, and I don't like to be hunted, but really lack of beauties with beautiful face for my tastes.
Anyway, holidays are finished for 3 dreamed girls in Switzerland, so attraction will be there and in NRW, at the moment, between high level Globe at 280/ h and the deep Ruhr for great time for only 30 €, because rooms quality, not girls level, don t worth more time spent in room. Palace rooms worth to take time in room with the good girl.
Aurelia is on tour at Globe.
Think its still possible to get DFK in a 30 min session if you been with the girl already and she knows you are usually 1 HR guy anyway.
Guess all the hype and tourists are ruining the tank. After 1st July its going to get worse.
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[b]Guess all the [/b]hype and [b]tourists are ruining the tank[/b]. After 1st July its going to get worse.[/QUOTE]Tadaah! Our padawan has discovered the source of all evil.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2007642]Tadaah! Our padawan has discovered the source of all evil.
HB.[/QUOTE]Maybe the new law will help with all us pesky tourists, huh Bub? If sex in Germany is no better than the red light district of Antwerpen then there is no reason to pay 1500 $ for a long, uncomfortable flight to Germany? And I don't think there will be more girls because now they don't have to put up with the tourists. This would make no logical sense.
5 years ago was my last trip to Oase. "Back in the day" us tourists would be kissing DFK (that's Deep French Kissing for the non-tourists) outside the room on the couches while waiting for a room. Has this changed? I hope not. If so, don't blame this tourist. When I left this practice was alive and well. And if you did kiss them then you had a verbal contract to session. What happened to this? I did notice that the 3 girls I sessioned with at GT did not kiss outside the room. Maybe this is a GT thing or a small sample size? I wonder if this custom has changed? I'll let you know today.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2007642]Tadaah! Our padawan has discovered the source of all evil.
HB.[/QUOTE]Yes Master HB this padawan hates tourists that pay extra for DFK, DATY etc. It makes my job so much harder even though I'm a returning tourist.
Guess the locals hate them too as some girls must be specializing hunting easy tourists as well, LOL.
[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2007652]
5 years ago was my last trip to Oase. "Back in the day" us tourists would be kissing DFK (that's Deep French Kissing for the non-tourists) outside the room on the couches while waiting for a room. Has this changed? I hope not. If so, don't blame this tourist. When I left this practice was alive and well. And if you did kiss them then you had a verbal contract to session. What happened to this? I did notice that the 3 girls I sessioned with at GT did not kiss outside the room. Maybe this is a GT thing or a small sample size? I wonder if this custom has changed? I'll let you know today.[/QUOTE]Times have changed HS. That was what made Oase. That tradition.
You are getting make out outside the room at GT? 😮
Back then illusion was higher. I recall getting grabbed in pulled into the couch for public DFK. 😌 Couple instances of running into great services.
Such public affection has pretty much disappeared, and what did it get replaced with? Extras for services which should be standard or requiring an HR now.
Me a different type of tourist. Know how to blend in with the locals.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2007659]Times have changed HS. That was what made Oase. That tradition.
You are getting make out outside the room at GT? 😮
..[/QUOTE]No, they did not. I tried this with all three girls and they gave me a peck on the lips or on each cheek but no DFK. I though this was odd but they said "inside the room. " All three lived up to their promises (and boy did Bella and Joanna) but it was a consistent "inside the room" thing. Yeah, I had heard this before back in the day but it used to be the way that they got you to commit to a verbal contract at Oase and World. I thought that the "Inside the Room" policy may have been a GT or NRW thing.
I will find out very soon.
Yep, times change. In days of old DFK and hand under the towel were the norm prior to committing, in all clubs. Now it is different in all but a few clubs, so I am not harsh on Oase or Sharks.
My pet theory is that romanians are an extremely reserved people and that this is more relevant to the gradual change than tourists.
[QUOTE=NoTaWorry;2007714]Your story sounds either suspect or outlandish. However I'm giving your post the benefit of the doubt and addressing it because I think the story is serious. If you care about your fellow ISGers health (as your condom ending statement alludes) please help people out and give more information:
Some questions:
Why did you wait approximately 2 years to make a post like this?
Does she still work at Sharks?
Did you have sex with anyone else in the same time frame?
What was your diagnosis?
Did you tell her?
I know an ISGer who partakes in the condomless option some clubs / girls provide for about a decade and he swears he has never cought a thing. Either way I will always stay covered with any girls who I'm not convinced about.[/QUOTE]I recognize this story from one of the Swedish forums and it corresponds very well with what was said there last year.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2007601]I'm not anymore a regular since September, with only 3 visits, but for my last visit on February, no girl who came to me, told me about this new Sharks rule? Amalia and Eliv proposing me a 2 sisters fantasy, didn't say kissing for only 1 hour. For our first room, Mandy didn't ask how long I wanted to stay and I decided to take my time with her for 1 hour, just because of her kissing GFE behavior I enjoyed. Blond Erika. Ro didn't ask about time when she was at GT, to kiss me and she is good in room.
Biggest problem for me is not girls services quality and I was even surprised many girls coming to me, were really lovely, smiling, not pushing too much hunting, and I don't like to be hunted, but really lack of beauties with beautiful face for my tastes.
Anyway, holidays are finished for 3 dreamed girls in Switzerland, so attraction will be there and in NRW, at the moment, between high level Globe at 280/ h and the deep Ruhr for great time for only 30 , because rooms quality, not girls level, don t worth more time spent in room. Palace rooms worth to take time in room with the good girl.
Aurelia is on tour at Globe.[/QUOTE]Sirioja,
You are well know by the girls in many place as a guy who is staying long time in the room thus you are getting a better service than the standard one.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2007752]Sirioja,
You are well know by the girls in many place as a guy who is staying long time in the room thus you are getting a better service than the standard one.[/QUOTE]Usually between 1 or 2 hours, not longer, but when I like a girl, I repeat very often. As I say to my LR girl, she is unlucky I chose her, but she answers: send me when you want to come. I should be 10% of her future, if my money is only for her?
Even they know I'm a writer, even when they are bullshit about me, girls understand very fast how I behave with women, even in brothels, just by the way I speak to them.
Respectful behavior and good manners get the best and can even be surprised by what some girls can give by themselves.
I never met Amalia and Eliv, I never talked to Mandy, all really friendly and with my subjective tastes for GFE, I advice to give a try to Mandy. De, same for Mersi. Hu.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2004240]When was Betty's new haircut. I saw her a week ago, with the red and blonde highlights underneath the back of the hair.[/QUOTE]I discovered Betty this week. An absolute gem as you pointed out in another post. Looks like our tastes are still very similar.
She still has the red and blonde highlights underneath her hair.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2007793]I discovered Betty this week. An absolute gem as you pointed out in another post. Looks like our tastes are still very similar.
She still has the red and blonde highlights underneath her hair.[/QUOTE]Betty is gorgeous, but some guys just like huge sizes. Taste is deference.
Hi,
I expect to visit again Sharks (2nd), between March 20 and may 10 for some days.
Do you know if there are some calendar days to avoid at this period. (because of vacation time, religious day for Rom girls or special day for German, or big fair in Frankfurt).
And any idea if Helly and Brenda (big tits) (ex Leya), plan to, or have already start to work again in 2017.
Thanks.
Hi,
I expect to visit again Sharks (2nd), between March 20 and may 10 for some days.
Do you know if there are some calendar days to avoid at this period. (because of vacation time, religious day for Rom girls or special day for German, or big fair in Frankfurt).
And any idea if Helly and Brenda (big tits) (ex Leya), plan to, or have already start to work again in 2017.
Thanks.
Wondering if she's still at Sharks. The one I'm thinking of is around 23 now I think, darker skin, natural. Spent many hours with her, but last saw her just over a year ago.
[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2007652]5 years ago was my last trip to Oase. "Back in the day" us tourists would be kissing DFK (that's Deep French Kissing for the non-tourists) outside the room on the couches while waiting for a room. Has this changed? I hope not. If so, don't blame this tourist. When I left this practice was alive and well. And if you did kiss them then you had a verbal contract to session. What happened to this? I did notice that the 3 girls I sessioned with at GT did not kiss outside the room. Maybe this is a GT thing or a small sample size? I wonder if this custom has changed? I'll let you know today.[/QUOTE]1. Waiting for a room is reorganized at Oase. You wait for a key standing at the bar and not at the couch any more. Big difference. Also; there are so many more rooms added in the club now than five years ago, so very little waiting to be had these days.
2. The way you describe couch time (fondling and kissing for a few minutes prior to a session) I had couch time in all of my five sessions at Oase last weekend. Others have reported the same. So; maybe not as standard as it used to be (was it ever?), but with a little luck and by not abusing the tradition gaining mistrust among the girls, you can still have it. At Oase. World. Sharks.
Stay positive and sometimes good things can come your way.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2007787]I never met Amalia and Eliv, I never talked to Mandy, all really friendly and with my subjective tastes for GFE, I advice to give a try to Mandy. De, same for Mersi. Hu.[/QUOTE]I meant I never met them before my last visit or spoke with Mandy.
About what I read below, if I often write I'm disappointed by lack of beauties for my subjective tastes, since my Sharks discovery on February 2014, I had rooms with: Dina, Mersi, Agnes. Pol, Domenika. Pol, Marina. Lat, blond Patricia before silicon, Roxana before silicon who was my first Sharks girl, Cosmina when was brunette, Ester. Ro, Ada, Selena. Ro, Ariana now at Mainhattan, Melani white snow, Moira, Megan of course, so many times for more than 1 year, with perfect hygiene even on her period, Aurelia when was at Samya, blond Erika. Ro when was at GT, Aylice. Bu, Anabel. Bu, Mandy. De, Sandra. De. I never had any hygiene problem and never caught any disease with all those girls, even often DATY. For my little experience at Sharks with about 100 visits, Sharks is safe for covered sex. What was written about Dina months ago was just bullshit, she is not my regular, but I know some of her clients and no one never told me same than bullshit about her.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2007793]I discovered Betty this week. An absolute gem as you pointed out in another post. Looks like our tastes are still very similar.
She still has the red and blonde highlights underneath her hair.[/QUOTE]TankTank123. Glad she gave you good service. Physically small, but a lot to offer. Two weeks and I'll be back supporting her finances :)
[QUOTE=Kanter755;2007853]Hi,
I expect to visit again Sharks (2nd), between March 20 and may 10 for some days.
Do you know if there are some calendar days to avoid at this period. (because of vacation time, religious day for Rom girls or special day for German, or big fair in Frankfurt).
And any idea if Helly and Brenda (big tits) (ex Leya), plan to, or have already start to work again in 2017.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Orthodox Easter won't be the best time for good casting. The best business Romanian girls should return home.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2008015]Orthodox Easter won't be the best time for good casting. The best business Romanian girls should return home.[/QUOTE]Thanks.
And Brenda big tits any idea if she works again, now? And Helli?
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2007587]The couches under the fish tank were quite empty in the afternoon and early evening. Maybe the girls are avoiding that area after hearing about the reports about no-kissing girls there. Edith, for example, prowled in the bar area.
Dinner was the best I have had in Sharks so far. Juicy chicken drumstick, pork and another meat. And I notice that they now top up that water dispenser at the entrance quite frequently. Wise thing to do as it avoids having water drinkers like me adding to the queue at the bar.[/QUOTE]I wrote the 2 paragraphs above about my observations at Sharks on Monday. Well, things were totally different on Wednesday - couches under the fish tank were fully occupied by the usual girls. Food at dinner was bad - dried overcooked chicken and ridiculously saltish beef. And the water cooler was at times not topped up.
There were huge numbers of customers; but girls I spoke to complained that business was bad as there were an even larger number of girls.
Amalia came to me again with her price plan, and again I could not bring myself to take her despite now knowing that she and her sister have been getting good reports. I think I have some phobia of girls who preemptively dictate rules to me.
Instead, I went for my usual girls like Ada and Evita (no Asians hogging her time on this rare occasion!), but I also tried out a cute slim tanned new Romanian called Kelly - excellent service as she was a seasoned WG, but she said that will not be staying long.
[QUOTE=Kanter755;2008144]Thanks.
And Brenda big tits any idea if she works again, now? And Helli?[/QUOTE]No pretty Helli pointing nipples, since few months. Didn't see Branda / Leya E cup on February visit. Mac?
I know her attitude is bad, but her looks are great.
[QUOTE=Kanter755;2007853]Hi,
I expect to visit again Sharks (2nd), between March 20 and may 10 for some days.
Do you know if there are some calendar days to avoid at this period. (because of vacation time, religious day for Rom girls or special day for German, or big fair in Frankfurt).
And any idea if Helly and Brenda (big tits) (ex Leya), plan to, or have already start to work again in 2017.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sorry Kanter755, if someone is able to tell you what will be the LU tomorrow in any FKK just I advise you not to believe him. Shark has the biggest LU in Germany don t hesitate to go there, there will be always enough girls for you. For example, today I visited Oase and despite many negative reports I had a marvelous day and the LU was may be the greatest I saw over the last 5 years in all the FKK I visited.
[QUOTE=Frank12;2008361]I know her attitude is bad, but her looks are great.[/QUOTE]Last time I saw her she was at Oase. Don't think she's been at Sharks in the last 12-15 months.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2008403]Last time I saw her she was at Oase. Don't think she's been at Sharks in the last 12-15 months.
HB.[/QUOTE]She was at Sharks between October and January. But yes she's back at Oase.
Anybody had an update on Lena de?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2007901]I meant I never met them before my last visit or spoke with Mandy.
About what I read below, if I often write I'm disappointed by lack of beauties for my subjective tastes, since my Sharks discovery on February 2014, I had rooms with: Dina, Mersi, Agnes. Pol, Domenika. Pol, Marina. Lat, blond Patricia before silicon, Roxana before silicon who was my first Sharks girl, Cosmina when was brunette, Ester. Ro, Ada, Selena. Ro, Ariana now at Mainhattan, Melani white snow, Moira, Megan of course, so many times for more than 1 year, with perfect hygiene even on her period, Aurelia when was at Samya, blond Erika. Ro when was at GT, Aylice. Bu, Anabel. Bu, Mandy. De, Sandra. De. I never had any hygiene problem and never caught any disease with all those girls, even often DATY. For my little experience at Sharks with about 100 visits, Sharks is safe for covered sex. What was written about Dina months ago was just bullshit, she is not my regular, but I know some of her clients and no one never told me same than bullshit about her.[/QUOTE]By the way girls that are not so clean: I saw an Asian guy in the shower with some red stuff all over is dick after a zimmer mit Raluka Ro. Blonde girl, slim, hangs out with Romina and has an obnoxious personality. Sharks has no filter. They take take street hookers and one fat girl who begs that people fuck her offering no condom and stuff, so no wonder some guys get some skin issues on genitals. Lets hope it doesn't get worst.
LU OK for weekend, but food is absolute shit. I can imagine how Sharks went from best food with crepes and all to worst food. Also, bar, new staff is crappy, so not only you wait for service, but only two girls from four an actually give you a good drink with out billing issues. Hope for best.
[QUOTE=Kanter755;2008144]Thanks.
And Brenda big tits any idea if she works again, now? [/QUOTE]Last visit to Sharks was last Saturday of February and I didn't see her. Saw her late Jan. Told me she would start holiday first few days of Feb.
[QUOTE=Danny227;2008547]By the way girls that are not so clean: I saw an Asian guy in the shower with some red stuff all over is dick after a zimmer...[/QUOTE]The red stuff you saw probably was iodopovidone, an antiseptic, very common among WGs in Asia, especially in Japan. WGs make you gargle with this before they kiss you and they gargle with this after giving you a BJ. Probably the guy was trying to disinfect his dick. Which is misguided as this thing is so strong that it destroys cells (micro injuries!) and actually encourages infections after use. It looks like blood.
[QUOTE=Kanter755;2008144]And Brenda big tits any idea if she works again, now? And Helli?[/QUOTE]According to a report from Friday on another forum: Brenda is back!
[QUOTE=Danny227;2008547]By the way girls that are not so clean: I saw an Asian guy in the shower with some red stuff all over is dick after a zimmer mit Raluka Ro. Blonde girl, slim, hangs out with Romina and has an obnoxious personality. Sharks has no filter. They take take street hookers and one fat girl who begs that people fuck her offering no condom and stuff, so no wonder some guys get some skin issues on genitals. Lets hope it doesn't get worst.
LU OK for weekend, but food is absolute shit. I can imagine how Sharks went from best food with crepes and all to worst food. Also, bar, new staff is crappy, so not only you wait for service, but only two girls from four an actually give you a good drink with out billing issues. Hope for best.[/QUOTE]I only go with the prettiest girls in clubs and sometimes I don't even find a pretty enough girl at Sharks, or Oase, or World, or GT. Why do you want I pay for a girl I could find in any street? Even for AO sex. Maybe, I m lucky but all my Sharks girls have or had good hygiene. Also never had problems with the bar, except waiting a bit, but they play Formula 1 or ski when I ask. Not anymore the best casting for beauties for me, quantity is not quality for my eyes, but also some bad clients who don t help girls for business.
Hi,
I'll make my trip to Germany at the end of August for a week. I think I'll only visit sharks for a full week.
Do you know when is the latest train time from Darmstadt nord to Frankfurt central station?
I can't decide whether I should stay in a hotel near Darmstadt or Frankfurt central station.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2008726]I only go with the prettiest girls in clubs and sometimes I don't even find a pretty enough girl at Sharks, or Oase, or World, or GT. Why do you want I pay for a girl I could find in any street? Even for AO sex. Maybe, I m lucky but all my Sharks girls have or had good hygiene. Also never had problems with the bar, except waiting a bit, but they play Formula 1 or ski when I ask. Not anymore the best casting for beauties for me, quantity is not quality for my eyes, but also some bad clients who don t help girls for business.[/QUOTE]Of course. Only girls with good hygiene, but shit happens.
[QUOTE=EnderW;2008710]The red stuff you saw probably was iodopovidone, an antiseptic, very common among WGs in Asia, especially in Japan. WGs make you gargle with this before they kiss you and they gargle with this after giving you a BJ. Probably the guy was trying to disinfect his dick. Which is misguided as this thing is so strong that it destroys cells (micro injuries!) and actually encourages infections after use. It looks like blood.[/QUOTE]No, we actually talked and he was complaining about her hygiene, LOL. He made a point of it and was unhappy with personality, hygiene and greediness with asking more money. I don't really know the girl. But, I asked some details in order to avoid the mistake he did.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2008206]No pretty Helli pointing nipples, since few months. Didn't see Branda / Leya E cup on February visit. Mac?[/QUOTE]Leya / Brandy (a) is in the club. Heli, I didn't see despite actively searching.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2008726]I only go with the prettiest girls in clubs and sometimes I don't even find a pretty enough girl at Sharks, or Oase, or World, or GT.[/QUOTE]You go with girls YOU find pretty. All tastes are different and so far I agree all of your favs I know among the top 30 % of each club concernig optic, but some aren't exceptional for me. Same for service, all nice girls with good behavior and GFS but again some of them for me far away from top class service. And that means GFS plus PSE and more.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2008861]You go with girls YOU find pretty. All tastes are different and so far I agree all of your favs I know among the top 30 % of each club concernig optic, but some aren't exceptional for me. Same for service, all nice girls with good behavior and GFS but again some of them for me far away from top class service. And that means GFS plus PSE and more.[/QUOTE]All my writings are from my subjective tastes for beauty, and experiences with my behavior and manners with women. I don't look for top hardcore PSE performers, I look for kindness and sweetness and woman sophisticated look with good manners, like Megan who is my most numerous rooms at Sharks, even can't compete for tornado potential with Sandra or Aylice, but if I had to choose only one, I would go with chestnut jolie Sara I saw on end of August 2015 at Mainhattan, for dreaming, much more important for me than cumming. Black hair were also classy sophisticated, but I'm not Asian, even I love natural blond.
As I say to top busy superstar Kate at Aca, I find her prettier with her chestnut natural hair, rather than Gothic black.
Natural for hair, make up, tits even when small, is always the most beautiful, but some girls change to fall in easy Asian business, or to silicon, wishing for better business. Cosmina was brunette in 2014, at least Evita stayed brunette. Karolina. Pol was natural dark blond and changed to black, and was a superstar at Sharks on September 2015, with high GFE level.
About girls hygiene, some girls seem to criticize some others about this for competition. Better each girl take care of herself. I confirm, even many left Sharks, most of my regulars are or were Romanian and I could lick them like a dog everywhere, even inside vagina, and little devil is still alive.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2008726]I only go with the prettiest girls in clubs [/QUOTE]Like Ariana who now is working at Mainhattan? She's an average looking girl. Or Aylice, the cross-eyed Bulgarian?
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2008882]Like Ariana who now is working at Mainhattan? She's an average looking girl. Or Aylice, the cross-eyed Bulgarian?
HB.[/QUOTE]I liked Aylice face and beautiful smile and she was really exceptional in room, sweet with a real woman vagina for a small body.
Ariana who is Romanian, was so fresh when she started, the only girl I chose to go before going with Megan, as long Ariana did worth, for 10 rooms.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2008882]Like Ariana who now is working at Mainhattan? She's an average looking girl.
HB.[/QUOTE]With saggy tits but with special extra.
Life at FKK is easy, if we can find an average looking girl as the prettiest. I envy that.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2008882]Like Ariana who now is working at Mainhattan? She's an average looking girl. Or Aylice, the cross-eyed Bulgarian?
HB.[/QUOTE]The beauty is in the eyes of the watcher!
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;2008893]With saggy tits but with special extra.
Life at FKK is easy, if we can find an average looking girl as the prettiest. I envy that.[/QUOTE]But you are a man, some girl even not the prettiest have a special way to speak to behave which are making them very attractive.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;2008893]Life at FKK is easy, if we can find an average looking girl as the prettiest. I envy that.[/QUOTE]I envy that too, with that I had saved a lot of money at FKK clubs. LOL.
BTW despite this again and again 30 minutes standard session discussions FKK club girls prices are different.
Yes, it is easy to think the girl you like is pretty. It is even more easy to dump on girls that you don't like and call them names on internet forums anonymously.
I think Ariana looks good (at least facially) besides the saggy tits (this all relative to what I see in the club of course) her crazy personality is cute, free-spirited. I dunno who the hell Aylice the Bulgarian is. Haven't seen a cross-eyed girl at Sharks. LOL.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2008887]I liked Aylice face and beautiful smile and she was really exceptional in room, sweet with a real woman vagina for a small body.
Ariana who is Romanian, was so fresh when she started, the only girl I chose to go before going with Megan, as long Ariana did worth, for 10 rooms.[/QUOTE]I was just quoting these two because you wrote "I just go with the prettiest girls in the club". That may be true in your eyes, others may find other girls more attractive. I am not saying they are ugly, I am not dumping on them, but objectively they are both not in the TOP 10 of Sharks re optics. I was not talking service, friendliness or special extras.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2009135]I was just quoting these two because you wrote "I just go with the prettiest girls in the club". That may be true in your eyes, others may find other girls more attractive. I am not saying they are ugly, I am not dumping on them, but objectively they are both not in the TOP 10 of Sharks re optics. I was not talkint service, friendliness or special extras.
HB.[/QUOTE]Aylice. Bu and Ariana. Ro don't have Katalina class, nor Megan height, nor Karin curves, but they were both exceptional GF in room. A little Bulgarian like Aylice was booked at Sharks for 3 or 4 days by a guy flying from far, only for her, not my 580 kms driving. Which other girl at Sharks is booked like was Aylice? Those who had room with her know, and from our first room, she stayed always lovely, even when I cancelled so many times.
For my 10 rooms with Ariana for 1 month, always 1 hour and 100, never asking for extra, only condom of course. I remember how she was cute, needing to say I preferred her to Megan, because when I didn't have enough time, I asked her to come earlier and had only room with her before driving to mountains. My only bad point about Ariana is: she is really not clever, believing all bullshits she was said, but I can't forget how she did behave so lovely on her first month. I m just happy for her she left Sharks, far from 2 pathetic bullshiting regulars at Sharks, I think she worth better.
Better to keep on bullshiting about me than about exceptional Aylice, for PL same level than Jana. Hu, or Ariana who was a great GFE, before Asian business. Today, my girl who is the busiest at LR, was waited by some regular clients, when she saw me, she asked: do you want to go with me? If you want, I will be free for you. My ego and mind enjoyed, we waited for more than 30 mn for key and had more than 1 h 30 for great time in great room upstairs on the left. Appointment for next week end. She would be the classy superstar at Sharks. Just facts versus bullshits. She worth my 2000 per month, much more than 20 rooms since end of December and I wish we will keep on together for long time, even complicated with her job.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2009170]Which other girl at Sharks is booked like was Aylice? [/QUOTE]OK, you don't want to get it but keep on blabbering your usual chitchat. It was not about service or how busy a girl is, you stated you go with the prettiest girls in the club only and that Sharks is quantity over quality these days (which is true by the way). Still you are going with girls who I objectively wouldn't put in that category, still they are nice looking girls.
HB.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;2008893]With saggy tits but with special extra.
Life at FKK is easy, if we can find an average looking girl as the prettiest. I envy that.[/QUOTE]I'm nowhere near as experienced as some of you FKK guys, but I've had probably a dozen trips to FKK land in the past 24 mos or so (for a week or so per trip), so figure 60-70 club visits over 2 years. I initially was hung up on finding the 'perfect' girl looks-wise, but since have had some of the most amazing sessions with girls that are a notch or two below that perfect spec. One of my absolute best P4 P sex session (and in the top 5 of all time sex) was with a blonde Russian at Sharks who is lean, but a bit curvier than I prefer with firm bolt-ONS (I MUCH prefer natural and usually would pick smaller natural over bigger fake) - totally not my type. She is / was a favorite of a friend of mine and he suggested I give her a try. Absolutely mind-blowing sex. I was literally weak kneed shaking afterwards, and this was after 4-5 days of 3-4 sessions per day, so I was amazed.
Anyway. I've learned that yep, optifucks are a wonderful thing, but mind-blowing sex goes well beyond the looks of the girl; good chemistry with a 7-8 can trump a mechanical session with a 9-10. Now if you can get good chemistry with a 9-10? Best of both.
[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2009293]Anyway. I've learned that yep, optifucks are a wonderful thing, but mind-blowing sex goes well beyond the looks of the girl; good chemistry with a 7-8 can trump a mechanical session with a 9-10. Now if you can get good chemistry with a 9-10? Best of both.[/QUOTE]Agree with you, but "best of both" is what we are all ultimately looking for, my guess at least. And there are still 9-10's out there with exceptional service, just have to find them.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2009298] And there are still 9-10's out there with excetptional service, just have to find them.
[/QUOTE]Agreed and additional you have to pay them appropriate.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2009276]OK, you don't want to get it but keep on blabbering your usual chitchat. It was not about service or how busy a girl is, you stated you go with the prettiest girls in the club only and that Sharks is quantity over quality these days (which is true by the way). Still you are going with girls who I objectively wouldn't put in that category, still they are nice looking girls.
HB.[/QUOTE]Each one his tastes of course and my writings are only about my tastes and experiences. From her arrival from Mainhattan on November 2015 to our last room on November 2016, Megan 2015/2016 was the prettiest for me at Sharks and she still has her beautiful eyes and smile. Of course, Sandra or Mandy or Aylice or Ariana are not so pretty, but I don't regret any room with them. I could even try again with Ariana on July, but I usually prefer not to repeat when finished with my regulars, but may happen with always lovely Sandra. I don t plan to go to Mainhattan, but would be interesting to meet Ariana to speak about Sharks. Same at World, to speak with Raïssa if there.
I m more interested by beauty, sensuality and class, rather than just sex performances.
Of course, because for me Sharks offer good club services with some good rooms and chalets which worth to enjoy beauties, just have to wish for new beauties. Unfortunately, even I never experienced upselling, some girls seem to fall into fucking tourists behavior, asking for extra for more than Turkish suck and fuck. At Aca or LR, no upselling, only lovely GF. Fast finishing with others, busy Kate, used 3 condoms to try to give me pleasure on Saturday when my mind was still at LR, a real pleasure to experience what a girl can do for you, only for 80. No words for my sexy lady behavior on Sunday, just to enjoy she chose me when she was waited and busy, and such behavior really deserves my faith. Sexy and great performer Miranda can't compete.
FKK land is not only Sharks, not so many beauties in this land, but can find a few, for my pleasure.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2009298]Agree with you, but "best of both" is what we are all ultimately looking for, my guess at least. And there are still 9-10's out there with excetptional service, just have to find them.
HB.[/QUOTE]Where are these top beauties highly performing? At Sharks? Oase? World? Yes for Lorena at History, Kate and Isabella at Globe, sexy lady at LR, Madeleine at GT. Yes for Danny and Raïssa at Atlanta, but only pretty, not top beauties. But at least, I have 6 dreamed girls with Kate Aca.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2009135]I am not saying they are ugly, I am not dumping on them, but objectively they are both not in the TOP 10 of Sharks re optics. I was not talkint service, friendliness or special extras.
HB.[/QUOTE]So who makes out your objective top10 Sharks optic throughout the past lets say 12 months?
Craiova: ymmv. The problem is when the top 9 or 10s are the ones upselling. It gives the impression of them taking advantage of something and at the same time either not liking what they do, or who they go with. However when you are the one to take charge and ask for more, then good on you... and your chemistry may very well improve. I think it all relates to the same integrity stuff I've talked about before. However, some clubs have been stagnante on pricing for too long, and for the good of the atmosphere in the fkk clubs as a whole, small incremental price increases needs to be made... like 5 or even 10e at some clubs that has been stagnant for 5+ years...
Of course a 9 or 10 can take advantage of her appearance. I pay more for her than for a 7. And girls below that I don't even fuck for free. Very simple.
This standard 30 minutes for 50 euro discussion bores me the last years.
Many girls below that 7 mark seems to sometimes have a very hard time earning enough for entry fee. Which makes me question the validitiy of that whole entry fee for girls idea. I have never done a 6 and below at an FKK either. But to me, about half the girls I see are 6 and below. So something is wrong. But I guess they do get someone. However other guys I know fucks girls who are 6's to me and claim these very same girls are 8's or even 9s. So a girl I would say is a 9 could very well be rated 7 by someone else... and by that metric the idea of upselling based on optics is what I was referring to as ymmw, and leaning towards abuse. Loosing that same integrity, as I doubt there is anything such as objective beauty. But it would be cool to see average rating on some famous fkk girls here among the forum members. Only worry is that the girls in question with the highest score could use hat against us, lol
And after all, a repeating customer is worth much more than a fly by.
And then you have guys going for the ass girls (perhaps I am a little bit of this as the most important attribute on a girl, but normally it has absolutely nothing to do with the personality or beauty of the girl. Just that it has been taken care of well), some goes for the leg girls, some goes for the face, some are tit lovers etc etc, and we all have different specs regarding natural/fake. Some likes tall girls. Others like short. Some like brunettes, others like blondes. Some guys are into ebony, while others like asians etc etc...
[QUOTE=Craiova;2009345]Of course a 9 or 10 can take advantage of her appearance. I pay more for her than for a 7. And girls below that I don't even fuck for free. Very simple.
This standard 30 minutes for 50 euro discussion bores me the last years.[/QUOTE]But who are your 9 or 10 for beauty, girls at Sharks at the moment? Or at Oase? Emma. De Oceans is 9 for me.
Megan brunette was the prettiest for me, I would rate her 9. Katalina, Karin and Rena were the others very pretty. But I preferred to go with Ariana, rather than with Karin the body, even was lovely, but not so sweet GF in room.
Katalina by far the classiest, Ilka second for class.
Roberta. Ro for hot girl smelling sex.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2009346]Many girls below that 7 mark seems to sometimes have a very hard time earning enough for entry fee. Which makes me question the validitiy of that whole entry fee for girls idea....[/QUOTE]Really? 100€ or so entry fee for girls.
I see girls don't get any room for the hole day.
And some girl start working at 9 pm?
The girls also have follow so many club rules, and the most girls fear to get kicked out.
Without the girls, They can shut down the club. Right?
[QUOTE=Pistons;2009346]Many girls below that 7 mark seems to sometimes have a very hard time earning enough for entry fee. Which makes me question the validitiy of that whole entry fee for girls idea. I have never done a 6 and below at an FKK either. But to me, about half the girls I see are 6 and below. So something is wrong. [/QUOTE]What percentage of girls make it to 7 or more? A lot can get a 7 or more for the body, but much less make it for the face. A 9 girl is seriously scarce. I see a lot more pretty faces on the street in France or even in England (ignoring the fatties).
When a club has too many girls, there has to be a deterrent to keep out girls who can't make any money. That method seems to be the entry fee. I have not heard of the club screening girls, and saying some cannot work because they are just too fat or too ugly. I maybe wrong. However it seemed that Sharks would accept most girls.
In other countries, brothels may kick out girls that seem to be generally very low rated, to improve their overall standard and image.
Girls maybe deluding themselves at first, thinking that any girl can be a well paid hooker, and looks don't matter. For sure exceptionally ugly girls, do sometimes last, and do get customers. I assume they must be giving exceptional service, and that maybe all that some customers want. However Sharks turn over is high. Many girls try it but cannot make money. They don't the base of regular customers.
Many customers like a club to have too many girls, however I dislike it on the grounds that girls are getting too stressed by lack of customers. I will choose the ones that seem like they can relax and have fun (and are good looking).
Without an entry fee, the club would be absolutely flooded with undesirable girls, and we don't want that. Perhaps it already is a bit over stocked with very ordinary looking girls and too few stunners. The whole market is in decline.
So the club should be raising entry fees in order reduce girl numbers and decreasing the entry fee to increase girl numbers. For the popular girls, the exact entry price won't be the most important factor in choosing the club to work in. More likely to be: Where do the rules of the club suit her, and where does she get the best customers, how far to travel?
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2009436]What percentage of girls make it to 7 or more? A lot can get a 7 or more for the body, but much less make it for the face. A 9 girl is seriously scarce. I see a lot more pretty faces on the street in France or even in England (ignoring the fatties).
When a club has too many girls, there has to be a deterrent to keep out girls who can't make any money. That method seems to be the entry fee. I have not heard of the club screening girls, and saying some cannot work because they are just too fat or too ugly. I maybe wrong. However it seemed that Sharks would accept most girls.
In other countries, brothels may kick out girls that seem to be generally very low rated, to improve their overall standard and image.
Girls maybe deluding themselves at first, thinking that any girl can be a well paid hooker, and looks don't matter. For sure exceptionally ugly girls, do sometimes last, and do get customers. I assume they must be giving exceptional service, and that maybe all that some customers want. However Sharks turn over is high. Many girls try it but cannot make money..[/QUOTE]I think the right explanation could be that the business model of the club is to live from the entry fees coming from girls and mongers. The clubs don't care if the girls are earning money or not only important for them is to get the entry fees.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2009346]Many girls below that 7 mark seems to sometimes have a very hard time earning enough for entry fee. Which makes me question the validity of that whole entry fee for girls idea.[/QUOTE]Good observation, Pistons.
I had the same observation and I started to suspect the whole "women are also guests" sort of setting.
Yes, I did see some women handing in some banknotes to the front desk lady before entering the club to work, but who knows what happens under the table, right?
Maybe they get their money back after work? Maybe they reimburse their entry by offering service to the stakeholders? And many other possibilities that are more tough and ugly to imagine.
At the FKK Dietzenbach thread, one member stated his suspicion of women using some special substances to keep them energetic.
The truth is always tough and ugly, and we punters are very unlucky to have a hobby that connects deeply to the world's most complicated industry.
If you go further, you will see it is more about providing an illusion that men prefer to believe.
"The women are there as guests, just like any one of us. They somehow love to have sex with random men in the club! However, they are in need of some cash because they have no jobs, so we men shall give some Euros to them as a gift after meeting them, etc. "
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2009436]What percentage of girls make it to 7 or more? A lot can get a 7 or more for the body, but much less make it for the face. I see a lot more pretty faces on the street in France or even in England (ignoring the fatties).
When a club has too many girls, there has to be a deterrent to keep out girls who can't make any money. That method seems to be the entry fee. I have not heard of the club screening girls, and saying some cannot work because they are just too fat or too ugly. I maybe wrong. However it seemed that Sharks would accept most girls.
Girls maybe deluding themselves at first, thinking that any girl can be a well paid hooker, and looks don't matter. Many girls try it but cannot make money. They don't the base of regular customers.
Many customers like a club to have too many girls, however I dislike it on the grounds that girls are getting too stressed by lack of customers. I will choose the ones that seem like they can relax and have fun (and are good looking).[/QUOTE]This post includes some excellent points! For me, one of the absolute biggest reasons I turn a girl down is the face. This is why I make sure I get right up on a tute so I can check her out real good. What looked good from afar may not look so hot up close. For me, the fail is often in the face.
And, I think some girls absolutely do delude themselves! They all think they understand men, but they do not. If you're going to make money at an FKK, then you can't just show up and splay your legs open! There's going to be competition, and you need to steadily appeal to clients if you're going to make money and win! I can never understand why girls will ask for a threesome when one of the girls is totally not in the same league as the hot one in the pair! I know that maybe the hottie is trying to help her friend out, but it does not work! And eventually the ugly duckling drops out because she can't earn!
One thing I can say with confidence about Sharks is that the number of girls there causes not only the ugliest but also good looking girls to leave. There was this blonde Italian girl (don't recall her name) who would sit on the little stage to the right as you enter the lounge and approach the bar. She was quite attractive according to my tastes. During my recent three week tour, at the end of it I saw her working over at Oase (with a kind of "I Dream of Jeannie" hairdo). She said that there were just too many girls over there. So, too many tutes can cause not only the ugliest to lose, but some lookers too. I warned Mandy at Artemis who asked me which club I had been too had the most men. I said Sharks, but I told her that Sharks had the most girls too, and therefore the most competition. She said she might check out Sharks, but that she was happy at Artemis in Berlin too.
By the way, I heard that Club Globe in Zurich definitely screens out girls on more than just an entrance fee. If you're too fat, not attractive enough, then you can't work there. And even then, once you're in at Globe, you need to work to stay in! You get fat or your performance slips, you're out! Many, many girls cannot stand up to that kind of pressure.
Syz: if about half the girls are 6 and below, about half are also 7 and up. Averages for face / body etc ofcourse. Now I didn't specify the club, but among the clubs I visit or have been to. Some clubs have higher rates, some lower. And it changes. So I guess thats where my average meter is... I guess if I was a judge in a fitness competition or a math teacher I'd get fired huh? For not placing average at 5. But then again, I am nice. It depends on what you compare them to also.
The market is not in decline either. It is just stagnant... but the customerbase may change clubs or scenery from time to time. But the number of girls seems to go up, so more to divide that cake on. Maybe not because recruitment rate grows, but because girls seem to stay in the business longer...
There are mechanisms for ruling out girls also without having an entry fee. I'll be damned for example if a few of the old fat romanians who worked at Artemis last year for a few months ever got a room. They got in after that raid and occupied one of the sofas... rumors from girls has it that some clubs (like LR) have had management handpick girls out of for example optics. So it is possible...
What is the name of the girl who sometimes hangs out with Blonde Cosmina?
Let me try narrow it down further, hopefully.
- Dark hair. Oval face. Pretty looks and smile. Small tits. Not as thin as Cosmina. About as tall as Cosmina.
- She is always trying to get Asian clients.
- She was there Friday and Saturday. Both Cosmina and her were working on a high roller Asian client. Just sitting on the couch.
- Sits near the pole when she is free.
BTW. Is Janine, De ever free now? She is hanging out with ugly, old Germans. Just sitting around. Not that Janine is super great in the room, but I'm glad I had her many times when she started.
The whole women are guests or not may just be a deception because of the legal system. But nothing is withholding night clubs from having ladies nights with free entry also. So the point on behalf of the FKK's for projecting this image would be moot in that case anyway. So they are probably if so just being overcareful while being clueless on the laws. Which we pretty much all know they are anyway regarding recent events... The other reasoning: psychology on sales could be it also. But I highly doubt that would work. Unless guys are really dumb...
JJForum: Cosminas's friend, the super asian hunter expert is 99% likely to be Evita... asians tend to like her looks. I'd personally place Cosmina above her though... it is funny, but when I frequented asia and macau in the past, some girls told me caucasian men allways picked them also, while asians almost never did. So it led me to think beauty is somehow ethnically based also. It is more than just the individuals perhaps...
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2009442]I think the right explanation could be that the business model of the club is to live from the entry fees coming from girls and mongers. The clubs don't care if the girls are earning money or not only important for them is to get the entry fees.[/QUOTE]Seems to be Sharks business strategy: as many girls as possible, paying 75 for entry + 25 for taxes + 20 if sleeping. 1 WG worth 2 clients for money. 100 girls pay 10000 per day, 3.5 million per year.
At Globe, they don't accept too many girls on tour and are more selective for look and care, even I saw some not pretty faces or a quite fat black there, but maybe they have clients asking for black girls.
[QUOTE=JJForum61;2009485]What is the name of the girl who sometimes hangs out with Blonde Cosmina?
Let me try narrow it down further, hopefully.
- Dark hair. Oval face. Pretty looks and smile. Small tits. Not as thin as Cosmina. About as tall as Cosmina.
- She is always trying to get Asian clients.
- She was there Friday and Saturday. Both Cosmina and her were working on a high roller Asian client. Just sitting on the couch.
- Sits near the pole when she is free.
BTW. Is Janine, De ever free now? She is hanging out with ugly, old Germans. Just sitting around. Not that Janine is super great in the room, but I'm glad I had her many times when she started.[/QUOTE]That's Evita. They are paid handsomely by the gentleman in question for their time. They were not working on him.
What's the basis for the claim that the market is declining? Seen from the pov of Sharks mgmt, they seem to be fine with the club hopping with a large number of men and women. Their finances probably are darned good at the moment. Seen from the point of men, if you have a lot of girls to choose from, that's a good thing to have. Sure, not all girls are 9s, sure some good girls may not be there; I wish all my favorites were always in the club, but rarely do I have trouble finding enough girls that I want to fuck. As for the girls, the good ones seem to be busy as always. The average ones may be having trouble, but that's how the market should function: weeding out the weak hands.
What we read here is that on certain days, such as Wednesdays and Sundays, the club gets overpopulated with locals who come for some cheap food and R&R and take few / no fucks. That seems to be a function of demand demographics on specific days and not because there are too many girls.
[QUOTE=EnderW;2009540]That's Evita. They are paid handsomely by the gentleman in question for their time. They were not working on him.[/QUOTE]Clever from them I suppose, maximizing their revenue and preserving their physical integrity, in the same way with a rich regular.
I don't know how they can only have Asian customers, as it is not the whole attendance at Sharks.
Janine also, sitting with regular German guys near the lockers, without doing any session. I guest she is paid for that, otherwise it is pointless for her to come.
[QUOTE=JJForum61;2009485] She is hanging out with ugly, old Germans.[/QUOTE]I do believe you left out grey haired like a little mouse is colored.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2009461]Yes, I did see some women handing in some banknotes to the front desk lady before entering the club to work, but who knows what happens under the table, right?[/QUOTE]I can confirm that I saw some men too, handing over money to the front desk at Sharks. Even I did it. Many times!
But who knows what happens under the table, right?
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2009461]At the FKK Dietzenbach thread, one member stated his suspicion of women using some special substances to keep them energetic.[/QUOTE]Quite a few men need to take Viagra or something similar. And many men cannot approach women without consuming (lots of) alcohol in advance.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2009461]we punters are very unlucky to have a hobby that connects deeply to the world's most complicated industry.[/QUOTE]Since it is one of the oldest business models on earth, it can't be that complicated, or? Let's say for 90 or more percent it is quite simple nowadays! On the surface: money transfer from men to women, immensely facilitated by sex! On a deeper level: money transfer from horny men to mostly male business men, immensely facilitated via sex!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2009472]I heard that Club Globe in Zurich definitely screens out girls on more than just an entrance fee. If you're too fat, not attractive enough, then you can't work there. And even then, once you're in at Globe, you need to work to stay in! You get fat or your performance slips, you're out! Many, many girls cannot stand up to that kind of pressure.[/QUOTE]This is true.
I heard from a girl I know last trip that the recent massive influx of girls was a promotion done to help offset the recent renovation / new rooms cost. Downside is as has been said, many of the top girls are frustrated with the new girls as it cuts into their earning potential.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2009559]What we read here is that on certain days, such as Wednesdays and Sundays, the club gets overpopulated with locals who come for some cheap food and R&R and take few / no fucks. That seems to be a function of demand demographics on specific days and not because there are too many girls.[/QUOTE]Wednesdays are not that overcrowded anymore. Sunday I don't know, maybe it will change in the summer. Monday and Tuesday are very slow days. Definitely too many girls on those days even though a lot of them do not show up.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2009737]Wednesdays are not that overcrowded anymore. Sunday I don't know, maybe it will change in the summer. Monday and Tuesday are very slow days. Definitely too many girls on those days even though a lot of them do not show up.
HB.[/QUOTE]40 girls on 2013, maybe 50/60 on 2014 and 2015 with high casting, one of the best in Germany at that time, until September 2016.
Why Wednesdays are less crowded? Still 50? Fridays afternoon also not crowded, so, only Sundays locals for breakfast and crowded Turkish nights, sitting drinking all night? Or less attractive casting? Despite more girls than in last golden years.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2009596]I do believe you left out grey haired like a little mouse is colored.[/QUOTE]That would be disrespectful to the mouse. Even a mouse looks better. It's great deal for the girl (and good for her) to just get paid to sit around and smoke. Makes no sense for the punter. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
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[QUOTE=JJForum61;2010270]That would be disrespectful to the mouse. Even a mouse looks better. It's great deal for the girl (and good for her) to just get paid to sit around and smoke. Makes no sense for the punter. [/QUOTE]Some guys pay girls just to stay in couch, smoking, or at the bar, or only chat in room, but don't fuck them. You can see some girls going downstairs many times when they are in room with a guy. Easy business, but no problem about Janine, I don't need to wait for her, since Summer 2014, good for her.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2008392]Sorry Kanter755, if someone is able to tell you what will be the LU tomorrow in any FKK just I advise you not to believe him. Shark has the biggest LU in Germany don t hesitate to go there, there will be always enough girls for you. For example, today I visited Oase and despite many negative reports I had a marvelous day and the LU was may be the greatest I saw over the last 5 years in all the FKK I visited.[/QUOTE]Thanks, but I asked for past, line up information! It's informative about a girl come back.
Back in the club: Anja (Albania) and Eveline (Romania).
New girls seen: Anita (Ro), Summer (D).
Hello!
Does anyone know what is Sharks policy regarding mobile phones? I've heard that it is not allowed in the lounge area but I've seen people using them openly. I emailed the staff this question but they did not reply. I like to spend quite a lot of time in the club relaxing between sessions so I would like it if I could use it for internet and stuff.
[QUOTE=WhatUpDog;2011898]Hello!
Does anyone know what is Sharks policy regarding mobile phones? I've heard that it is not allowed in the lounge area but I've seen people using them openly. I emailed the staff this question but they did not reply. I like to spend quite a lot of time in the club relaxing between sessions so I would like it if I could use it for internet and stuff.[/QUOTE]They are not allowed in the lounge. I've sometimes gotten away with using mine (for internet) in the sun porch area and outside at times. Its also allowed to use your phone right in the entry lobby.
[QUOTE=Mechelen;2011806]Back in the club: Anja (Albania) and Eveline (Romania).
New girls seen: Anita (Ro), Summer (D).[/QUOTE]Not Helli with pointing nipples? Is small, cute, fresh Mersi. Hu still at Sharks?
I wish a good business to Anja after Dubendorf. Friendly girl in room who worth a try, she was a good surprise even she had been bullshit about me before, when she doesn't bite, but only when she likes your smell and taste. As she asked, so I repeated. But Switzerland is another business for behavior, because more expensive rates. I think Aurelia understood how to change behavior for new business. Isabella is different from other girls, she likes You or not, so can be top level or bad. Kate is top class for sophisticated look and GFE behavior, so she is the busy superstar and would be a superstar in Monaco or Dubai, just for her woman level for illusion.
[QUOTE=FreddieKim;2008806]Hi,
I'll make my trip to Germany at the end of August for a week. I think I'll only visit sharks for a full week.
Do you know when is the latest train time from Darmstadt nord to Frankfurt central station?
I can't decide whether I should stay in a hotel near Darmstadt or Frankfurt central station.[/QUOTE]The last train departs Darmstadt Main Station at 10.22 PM. But if you are planning to spend a week, I would suggest you to stay at Darmstadt instead of Frankfurt.
You are officially allowed to use your phone in the reception area and in the locker rooms. You can use it in the room when you are with a girl, nobody will notice or say anything. If the garden is empty you might get away with using it in the areas that are not that busy.
HB.
[QUOTE=Mechelen;2011806]Back in the club: Anja (Albania) and Eveline (Romania).
New girls seen: Anita (Ro), Summer (D).[/QUOTE]For her fans, Helli pointing nipples, is back. Fake once more about her retirement, even this guy claims to know her, same than for Anja at Globe. With Anja, 2 quite pretty girls back at numerous GND fuck factory.
[QUOTE=WhatUpDog;2011898]Hello!
Does anyone know what is Sharks policy regarding mobile phones? I've heard that it is not allowed in the lounge area but I've seen people using them openly. I emailed the staff this question but they did not reply. I like to spend quite a lot of time in the club relaxing between sessions so I would like it if I could use it for internet and stuff.[/QUOTE]No you definitely cannot use it in the lounge. It would be assumed that your purpose was to secretly film the naked girls. The club does not wish to take the risk.
A very regular customer, seemed to be running his business on his phone from Sharks, or placing regular bets, so he had to spend a very large portion of his stay in the change room, to use his phone / internet or whatever.
There is a computer room near reception that can be used.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2012102]
There is a computer room near reception that can be used.[/QUOTE]Nope this isn't anymore.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2012102]No you definitely cannot use it in the lounge. It would be assumed that your purpose was to secretly film the naked girls. The club does not wish to take the risk.
A very regular customer, seemed to be running his business on his phone from Sharks, or placing regular bets, so he had to spend a very large portion of his stay in the change room, to use his phone / internet or whatever.
There is a computer room near reception that can be used.[/QUOTE]The problem is not to take pictures of the girls but of the customers, many mongers are married or famous or both and don't want to get so problems.
Hi,
Does anyone know Carmen?
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2012041]You are officially allowed to use your phone in the reception area and in the locker rooms. You can use it in the room when you are with a girl, nobody will notice or say anything. If the garden is empty you might get away with using it in the areas that are not that busy.
HB.[/QUOTE]A few weeks ago, during the afternoon, I saw 2 (maffia style) Turkish guys openly using their phones in that upstairs semi-circular bench area where a jacuzzi used to be, with staff (a girl picking up empty glasses and cleaning ashtrays) just walking by.
I asked this girl if this was allowed, and she shrugged her shoulders and said she would report it. Thirty minutes later the guy was still loudly talking into his phone, so obviously some people are more equal than others...
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2012163]The problem is not to take pictures of the girls but of the customers, many mongers are married or famous or both and don't want to get so problems.[/QUOTE]Who would take photos or videos of top model guys at Sharks? GND club now, but not even BND for clients.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2012172]A few weeks ago, during the afternoon, I saw 2 (maffia style) Turkish guys openly using their phones in that upstairs semi-circular bench area where a jacuzzi used to be, with staff (a girl picking up empty glasses and cleaning ashtrays) just walking by.
I asked this girl if this was allowed, and she shrugged her shoulders and said she would report it. Thirty minutes later the guy was still loudly talking into his phone, so obviously some people are more equal than others...[/QUOTE]For me, no problems. I take my phone upstairs near jaccuzi and watch movies or listen music. One girl told me it was not allowed, I told her, yes I know. Nobody from the reception or staff told me something.
Long time ago, I wrote Anja went to another club of Zurich and tell to some of her fans where she moved exactly.
I wonder that some people still believe she went to Globe.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1968418]Eventually she does not enter the Globe, but she goes to another. Yes, she is capricious LOL.[/QUOTE]
Sharks.
INTRODUCTION.
After a rather eventful day at Mainhattan, I continued my FKK weekend with a trip to Sharks. With a tremendous lineup and a ton of new girls, I had the opposite problem of the previous day--too many girls to choose from! Going with tried and true girls was my solution, leading to another great Sharks visit.
Continued from my razzia experience at Mainhattan the previous day:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3172-FKK-Mainhattan-Frankfurt&p=2012538&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2012538.
GETTING THERE.
See my previous reports for details about transportation and logistics:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=1670872[/URL]#post1670872.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=1655502[/URL]#post1655502.
I found a fast connection from Frankfurt HBF to Darmstadt Nord: the RB82 train. Although it runs only every couple of hours (11:25 then every 2 hours from Hbf Gleis 12, direction Erbach (Odw.) Bahnhof, 8. 35 EUR), it gets you to the Darmstadt Nord station in only 18 minutes. The aforementioned Darmstadt Nord station is rather ghetto with all that grafitti, but during the day was no problem. As usual I browsed in the giant Home Depot clone Hornbach store next door and used their free WLan before going into Sharks.
VISIT.
Upon entry at about 1230 I took a look around and already saw a tall tanned girl with dark blond hair and a pretty smile, coming back from a session with a rather happy looking guy. Good sign. I did the usual prep and made my way to the bistro for breakfast.
Mia was getting her plate of food--her hair was still cut short but she had dyed it blond. I am still amazed at her body--how can it be so slim with those perky tits--truly a body built for sex. She had to show me how to correctly use the water dispenser (push both levers down hard) as it seemed balky compared to previous visits.
After eating I took my usual spot at the sofas near the money lockers and watched girls arrive. It's always fun to see the girls in their street clothes checking in at the front counter, and their magical transformation into total sex machines once emerging from the girls' locker room. Some girls came in wearing just pajamas or skimpy jumpers, either coming down the stairs from the passageway that leads to the girls' dorm or in through the front entrance.
One such girl was Marina, who recognized me as she came in and asked me to fetch her a Red Bull, proferring her wristband so I would use her RFID chip. I guess the house has a rule that the girls can't come onto the floor in their street clothes (I wonder if that is waived for dessous day?) and she must have needed a caffeine fix even before getting dressed--er, undressed. The sweet redhead day bartender chuckled as she figured out what was up.
I did couch interviews with a series of girls, including petite Magda, who I swore was Julie from Mainhattan until I got up close and personal. I also was surprised to find out the tanned blonde I saw upon entering was actually Megan. She came over, recognizing me from previous sessions, all smiling and bright eyed, saying she was going to go full blond after a vacation next week. I told her, honestly, that she looked prettier than ever--she had lost some weight and was all toned and tan and beautiful.
Yet over the course of my 12 hour visit I didn't take Megan up, because there was such a bounty of new talent in the house. First-world problems, huh?
When Evita arrived she smiled and waved--I thought, should I go with one of the hot new girls or the tried and true? Evita took a while to get onto the floor--I am always amazed at the duration of time between a girl coming in with a big pile of towels and when they show up from the locker room. How much time does it take to take off your clothes? Come on, we've got some fucking to do here! Let's get a move on, woman!
I was talking on "the Evita sofa" with Amelia when Evita came over. I almost didn't recognize her too--she had gained weight, which I guess was evident from my expression. "Yes, I know, I'm fat" she said. "No, you're not. Just more curves" I replied, feeling her butt and thigh.
Seriously, Evita being "fat" means she's about the same as most of the other girls out there on the floor. It's just after how many sessions with her that you get used to a particular body, even with your eyes closed, and it was, well, different. We sat for a while to catch up and then went up to the room.
EVITA pretty brunette, big eyes, like pornstar Sherry Vi.
My session with Evita wasn't as off-the-hook as it was last time. Maybe we were both tired instead of inspired, or she wasn't yet warmed up because I was her first guy of the day. "I am a virgin today" she said. "Really? I exclaimed. "I am so honored to be your first man ever". "You are *not* my first man ever", was her deadpan reply. I flash her an exaggerated shocked and surprised wide-eyed face, thinking back to our previous session when I gave her a lengthy neck massage because she said her neck was sore from giving too many blowjobs. Virgin. Right. Means no dick for the whole past 10 hours. I still considered myself a lucky man. First! For today at least. This whole conversation is while we're fucking away in mish, by the way.
Evita seemed really self-conscious about her weight gain. Maybe Megan's recent slimming and toning contributes to this anxiety? I told her she was just more womanly--thinking about how Adel at Mainhattan has changed over the years. "You make me feel old!" she complained half-teasingly. This thing with Evita is becoming way too much of a true Girl Friend Experience now. Pretty soon she'll expect me to take her shopping and hold her purse while she tries on clothes and all that.
I went to get dinner pretty soon after the food came out; having gone through the razzia experience the previous night I wanted to embrace the old Army adage that you do things when you can, because you might not get another chance. Eat when you can, sleep when you can, fuck when you can. The Sharks food all looked good, but I stuck to the chicken / rice / veggies combo I've eaten there for years.
Emy, the big girl with the long face I met earlier, staked out the seat across from me with a plate of onion rings and a plate full of lemon wedges. She would squeeze at least one or two lemon wedges onto each onion ring before eating it, chewing contemplatively as she looked across the table at me. Was this some kind of new hooker diet? I can imagine it catching on with the Oprah set, like Atkins or Paleo or the Grapefruit Diet: "Lose weight like the hardcore fucking machines at German FKKs!" Maybe that's how Megan slimmed down--she was looking fantastic today, and evidently lots of other guys felt the same way, because I saw her go up at least ten times this night.
I met a guy at the bar who was also from the states--we compared notes about clubs and he said he had just come from Palace. He seemed happy about his visit there--maybe it's time to try Palace again? I can't complain--we have so much choice in the Hessen region that even if I never went back to Palace I wouldn't run out of clubs to attend and girls to do.
I told my new friend I was going to make the rounds and started making a loop around the bar. I couldn't go a few feet before being approached by a girl--mostly because there were so many of them you couldn't go a few feet without bumping into one. Bianca, a tall blonde I've talked to a bunch of times, pouted, "you never take me up! Uh oh. Am I getting a club reputation? I hope it's a good one, at least with my regular girls. Angelina, a dark, too-much-makeup girl with a witchy voice, latched onto me, grabbing my hand and putting it on her tit, then as I tried to disengage grabbed it again and put it on her ass. I felt like a random bug in a venus flytrap. Can't get away!
My new friend had shown me his Palace wristband, describing how they now have a two-tier system; if you want to be approached, you get an x color band, if you don't want to be approached, you get a why color band. No-approach works well in small clubs like Bernds, where it's really no problem just sitting next to a girl and getting started (and at Bernds, that means your cock is in her mouth by the same amount of time you'd get through the "is this your first time here?" question at other clubs). It's ok at Acapulco, where the girls stake out sofas and you come to them, like browsers at a farmers market perusing the offerings at each stall. ("This one's got some great melons!") But overall I enjoy approach clubs and enjoy the free tit and ass grabbing and attention. Yes, I know it's hard to believe, but I don't get girls coming up to me in real life and rubbing themselves against me. Sigh.
It took me a while to choose girl no. 2, because there were just so many girls to choose from. I started losing track of the ten or so new petite brunettes I met. And you guys know I'm usually good with names.
I really wish clubs would start having girls wear nametags, so you can tell them apart. There are only so many variations of the Arabic script tat or "my brother's name" (yeah, right) on the inside forearm that you can use to tell these girls apart. Those girls with the double pistol tats pointing at their poon tang? Um, one's got Glocks, the other has SIGs, and that third one, well, those look like squirt guns because she went for the cheap tattoo parlor back home in Chisinau.
Maybe they could wear sashes like in beauty pageants. I'm not sure how you'd do Miss Romania. With the crowd of girls present you'd have to provide sashes for 1st Runner Up down to 47th Runner Up or something (probably 147th runner up, given the crowd at Sharks this night). You could even have special awards, like how they always do "Miss Congeniality" and stuff like that. Like "Miss Perfect Tits", "Miss Best Cum in Mouth", and "Miss Loves Taking it up the Ass for a 100 EUR Bonus". Ok, that last one might not fit on a pageant girl sash. But it sure would make selection easier.
I had my eye on this petite blonde [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] cutie who always seemed busy. She was holding forth with this older German dentist-looking guy in the back sofas and I didn't get a chance to even ask her name. At one point they both came up to the bar to get drinks, the dentist guy hovering over her like he needed to poke her molars with his dental probe yet again. Open wide and say ahhh, young lady.
Later that night I saw her again, but my American friend had gotten to her first. Damn! Cock-blocked by my pal! He took off somewhere and I introduced myself, saying, "hey, you just met my friend!" Ciara said, "Yes, he is going to shower and then he is going to fuck me good". Right on, man. I asked how old she was, she asked what I thought and I replied "20" mentally adding a couple of years. She smirked, "off by 12 years". Seriously? 32? You have got to be kidding. Those are some great genes there. But I looked again and sure enough, the crinkle lines around the eyes and the hands were a giveaway. Amazing what you can do with makeup and hair these days. Wish I looked that good at 32.
Around 1745 I was using my phone while sitting in one of the two chairs in the entry lobby when I noticed Janine queueing up to pay her fee and come in to work. I looked at the other guys in the line to see their reactions to this hottie in their midst. Janine looked great--I think she had already done her makeup and everything. She was out on the floor--oops, I mean, holding court on her spot in the front sofas--in no time.
I got tired of wandering and instead went with a girl I had met some visits ago but never got around to trying--Nicoletta from Hungary. I love her smile--her flawless teeth and green eyes, framed with her blonde hair, was wonderful to see, especially when she was giving me a blowjob or fucking in mish and cowgirl.
Nicoletta and I waited around for one of the new downstairs rooms, but while sitting in the sofa in that parlour / anteroom, this guy backed out of the massage corridor saying oh man, that is some terrible smell in there. Sure enough, I caught a whiff of backed-up toilet (or messy anal upgrade session) and we found a room upstairs.
Are those new downstairs rooms good? I still haven't been in one. Luckily I haven't had to use one of those department store dressing room stalls they filled up the old kino with.
NICOLETTA blonde, flawless skin, pretty smile. Tits slightly droopy but still wonderful to play with during doggie.
I had a GREAT session with Nicoletta, even though she didn't go for the full-on DFK that some girls do with me, and I didn't even pop with her. Not for lack of trying--we started with a great BBBJ on the bed and did the usual mish / doggie / cowgirl rotation. Because we got one of those rooms with the tufted chair, we put it to good use, first her standing up and bent over the chair as I fucked her from behind, then kneeling on the chair with her butt perched just right. Oh man, let me pause a bit to relish this memory. I really enjoyed this one.
I had to rest a bit after my session with Nicoletta, so I got a slice of apple pie and ate it up. I guess I had used up quite a bit of calories, and some simple sugars would be just the thing to give me some needed energy.
Hanging out at the bar I sat for a while with another fellow American on my right and a Frenchman on my left. The Frenchman described some clubs near Strasbourg or Baden Baden that I had never heard of. His description of the pay sex scene in France was so depressing--I thought we had it bad in the USA but, as my new French friend noted, we at least have legal prostitution in one of our great American states. "Nevada is not that great" I argued, explaining the vast differences between the Bunny Ranch / Sheri's / etc and Sharks. Everything is relative I suppose, and maybe I'm getting spoiled by going to Sharks and other FKK.
The American guy was getting approached by a series of girls, and I suppose my club reputation was preceding me and none were coming up to me anymore. Darn, I knew I should've reapplied my Axe spray after that last shower. That shit works like PowerBait in those TV commercials. So I bid the Frenchman adieu and went looking again.
I hung out at the front sofas for a long time, looking for another girl. Again, as I had not popped with Nicoletta I still had ammo left in Little Tommy, and there were so many hot girls there I figured I should at least do one more.
Marina, the pale latin-looking girl who had me fetch her a Red Bull at the beginning of the day, was squatting down in front of her friends at the large chair-and-a-half that faces the bar near the stairs. "I've been waiting for you" she said, pointing an accusing finger at me. Having lost my seat to four young naked girls crammed on the one chair, I stood there giving Marina a long neck and upper back massage as I idly looked around for a hotter girl to do. "Forgive me?" I said, giving her a nice kneading at the back of her neck as her friends watched expectantly.
I met up with my 2nd new American friend and we perched on the back of the sofa next to the stairs, when a couple of the new brunettes came by, one sniffing at our chests. That was an interesting approach technique. I leaned in and sniffed back, with an impish smile on my face. "Um, are we missing something?" I asked, noting how she had first sniffed my friend, then me. "I smell Invictus" the taller one said. I don't get out much, so I gathered Invictus was a cologne, not the name of some guy who was famous for his be. O. Maybe it's like catnip for hookers or something, in which case I'll have to get me some. I just thought Invictus was a poem you had to learn in your Classics class: I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul; I must find my next girl to fuck. That is my goal!
Struggling with indecision I made my way to the back of the room and sat next to super skinny blondie Paloma, who I had sessioned with previously and could count on for a good session.
PALOMA blonde, super skinny, usually wearing black stockings.
Going up the stairs, we saw there was already a line, and we took the remaining open sofa up there to sit while we waited. I looked up and hey, there was my Frenchman friend with a girl he had found. We both laughed and pointed at each other, "good for you, you finally found someone!"
I spent the waiting time nuzzling and caressing Paloma, as much as I could without starting to get too intimate with a line of couples standing around right there. Some couples got fed up with waiting and went into the VIP lounge at the top of the stairs. I asked Paloma if she wanted to go there, figuring I still had enough energy to put on a good public sex show, but she demurred, saying she preferred a real room.
Once inside, we got down to business, and as expected, Paloma was a great session. I had told my new friends that after the two good sessions previously, I didn't want to ruin the day by finishing it with a poor session. So choosing Paloma was a safe choice. Her blowjob is fantastic--she really makes it seem like she's enjoying giving you such pleasure, with the twinkle in her eyes as she makes eye contact with your cock in her mouth, and I just let her keep going for a long time. Finally we got around to fucking, and I finished in doggie holding onto her skinny waist as I pumped away. Oh mein gott.
Afterward I knew I didn't have any more sessions in me, and so I found my new friends and said my farewells. It was a great day and night at Sharks.
SUMMARY.
Ah, this is the life. My dick is tired. I am happy.
GIRLS I SAW / MET /*DID.
MIA short hair now blonde, body still built for sex; super slim but great tits.
MARINA short tight braided hair pale skin Latina look.
EMY tall girl long face brunette.
MAGDA almost like but not as cute Julie from Mainhattan.
MEGAN even prettier and slimmer; recognized me; solarium tanned blondish hair will be full blonde after next week's vacation.
ELLEN big eyed Sasha Grey; petite wearing big gold watch.
BIANCA blonde tall "you never take me" pout.
? dark, garter stockings great ass.
AMELIA plain Jane blonde no tats.
? Super skinny petite blonde striped stocking tops hung out with German guy at front sofa.
ANGELINA "from Egypt" witchy voice aggressive.
FIONA blonde upper cheek stud and.
DENNY auburn big hips selling double.
ANKA recognized me; looks the same, big girl knows I won't take her up but she's cool about it.
SCARLET brunette looks like long-ago college hire.
*EVITA gained weight, is self conscious about it. Tat inside left wrist, script tat upper traps.
*NICOLETTA Hu pretty blonde; darker hair than before; slightly saggy tits; white garter belt energetic session used chair.
MELISSA half-asian look; saw her coming in but not on the floor. Maybe she saw the lineup and left?
IVY still looks great, maybe a little more womanly now.
ROXANNA hair now straight; losing the queen blonde of the club title to Megan.
JESSICA glasses big tits; doesn't bother approaching me anymore. No more motorboating in the main room, bummer.
JANINE walked in wearing jeggings and black jacket had to wait in line with the guys.
ADA wide mouth light hair great body tall.
SORANA "from Spain" wearing necktie; tried to pounce on me when I was waiting for Nicoletta to join me at the back sofas.
DARINA chubby blonde back chair.
CARLA "from Italy" petite dark hair; at column near back stairs.
TARA big tits bimbo look.
JULIA dark sharp features.
CIARA blonde [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] with old dentist all afternoon; thought 20 actually 32; like a cuter Anna Kournikova.
ANNABELLE young thin Catherine Zeta Jones, was with friend who was sniffing us.
MILA thin auburn / blonde prettier version of Ada.
*PALOMA super skinny great session.
SELINA big eyes light hair fresh from the village look.
LOTS of thin petite brunettes that I forgot their names.
NOT SEEN:
Sandra.
Lara.
Sylvana.
Esther.
Cosmina.
Sidonia.
FOOD.
Scrambled eggs w /3 kinds of pre-sliced wurst.
Hard boiled eggs.
Smoked salmon, shrimp & crab.
Yogurt w / muesli.
Apple sheet pie in afternoon.
Lamb with green beans.
Beef linguine.
Turkey cutlets; later pasta with turkey.
Roast chicken thighs / legs were a little too salty; later cheese-stuffed breasts.
Potatoes in creamy sauce; later boiled potatoes.
Costco veggies but with mushrooms then no mushrooms later.
White rice.
[QUOTE=Tommyseville;2012540]SUMMARY.
Ah, this is the life. My dick is tired. I am happy.
GIRLS I SAW / MET /*DID.
MIA short hair now blonde, body still built for sex; super slim but great tits.
MARINA short tight braided hair pale skin Latina look.
EMY tall girl long face brunette.
MAGDA almost like but not as cute Julie from Mainhattan.
MEGAN even prettier and slimmer; recognized me; solarium tanned blondish hair will be full blonde after next week's vacation.
ELLEN big eyed Sasha Grey; petite wearing big gold watch.
BIANCA blonde tall "you never take me" pout.
? dark, garter stockings great ass.
AMELIA plain Jane blonde no tats.
? Super skinny petite blonde striped stocking tops hung out with German guy at front sofa.
ANGELINA "from Egypt" witchy voice aggressive.
FIONA blonde upper cheek stud and.
DENNY auburn big hips selling double.
ANKA recognized me; looks the same, big girl knows I won't take her up but she's cool about it.
SCARLET brunette looks like long-ago college hire....[/QUOTE]Tommy! Dude!
I know you get this all the time, but that was an amazing report. Well-written, extremely detailed, and with great perspective.
Also, as a fellow Californian, who will be making my FKK debut tab sharks in just over 90 days, it's just the kind of perspective I needed right now. You're the bomb dude.
Thank you.
MCP.
Tommy. Thank you. It's great to get a report with some info about the girls. The unfolding narrative and the detail was great fun.
Man,
Great report. I didn't know you were a novelist! By the way, Ada is not that tall. She had inches over me on the floor and had me worried, but I was pleased to find that she lost what seemed like 20 cm when she took her shoes off for our session. Perfect height for that tight tiny body. We had a great two hour session. If I get time I will write my own review of the evening.
Can anyone please tell me when would the LU be back to normal or get busy again after Easter April 16? How is the LU like generally either the 1st week of April or a week after Easters?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2012245]Who would take photos or videos of top model guys at Sharks? GND club now, but not even BND for clients.[/QUOTE]Even some guys got problems because of their car plates, for those who are married or have a stable relation difficult to explain what they were doing in a club, you have novice people who are trying just to destroy life of the others.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2012811]Even some guys got problems because of their car plates, for those who are married or have a stable relation difficult to explain what they were doing in a club, you have novice people who are trying just to destroy life of the others.[/QUOTE]When I visit Sharks or Oase, since months, I need all my strength and stamina to search all day, sometimes during 15 hours, an attractive, classy girl. Last Friday, at Oase, I was so disappointed and exhausted at midnight, so I went to sleep with my little friend yellow cat. Really no energy to look at men. Even when I use my phone in Sharks lounge, it's for job, I really don't care about guys. If I want to make photos or video of a girl, I take her to room and will manage with her in room.
Men are really not the interest in brothels, are they paranoiac?
[QUOTE=Nuupter;2012788]Can anyone please tell me when would the LU be back to normal or get busy again after Easter April 16? How is the LU like generally either the 1st week of April or a week after Easters?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Should improve on next week end after Easter and be quite consequent until week end before Easter.
[QUOTE=LowFlyer;2012655]Man,
Great report. I didn't know you were a novelist! By the way, Ada is not that tall. She had inches over me on the floor and had me worried, but I was pleased to find that she lost what seemed like 20 cm when she took her shoes off for our session. Perfect height for that tight tiny body. We had a great two hour session. If I get time I will write my own review of the evening.[/QUOTE]Like most of Romanian girls, 1,60 without 20 cm heels, but nice, sweet girl. Can even be GFE for my own meaning: no DFK, no GFE.
Hi guys,
Can anyone share some info regarding Carmen.
I spent some wonderful time with her at the room last week.
She has a dark hair, hugh tits and a great ass.
She said she is from Hamburg?
Thanks.
Tuesday, 14 March, I decided to visit Sharks. Previous two days were spent at Oase.
When I entered, it was 2 PM. There were hardly 10 to 12 girls including an old lady with sagging tits who never stopped smiling each time she saw me. Was rather disappointed at the line up. Ordered beer and decided to wait for more dames to come. Things started looking better around 5 PM. Meanwhile, a young Romanian was chasing me continuously and was rather up selling herself and was annoyed at being refused. Who cares?
It is surprising to find Romanians in such huge numbers. By 6.30 PM, I found there were about 40 girls and probably equal or little less than that men. The first I girl chose was Nastia from Romania.
Good tits and nice ass and good GFE. But nothing in particular to write about.
The next at about 10 PM was Isabella, from Bulgaria (She too was good in the room with BJ and generally accommodating.
Had more beer in the meantime, as kept surveying girls. Choosing another girl was becoming increasing difficult as I did not find any stunner and I was getting frustrated. I kept going up and coming down and spending time in sofas but with no result. As I was sitting, a Romanian was looking at me and smiling all the time for the past 20 minutes or so. Each time I looked at her she was smiling. I was not sure whether I should ask her to come. However, she ended the uncertainty and sat next to me. She was Niki and very friendly. She did not upsell but promised me good time. Needless to say, I went with her to room. Oh, she gave excellent BJ and she is very skillful. She cooperated very well for multiple positions and did not find my fingering her pussy. After doggy, finding that I was still hard, she gave me BJ and I exploded into her mouth. It was fantastic. I would say she is one of best girls in Sharks.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2012872]Like most of Romanian girls, 1,60 without 20 cm heels, but nice, sweet girl. Can even be GFE for my own meaning: no DFK, no GFE.[/QUOTE]We had a great 2 hour GFE session. DFK, DATY until she had a very long shuddering orgasm, then my turn. BBBJ until CIM for the first pop, then shared some conversation and a smoke before making out some more. More BBBJ and 69 to get ready to go again. Doggy looking at that perfect tiny ass was almost too much, so switched to mish and came inside her. Had another smoke together and talked for a while before going out separate ways. 250 well spent, and I'll be looking for her again in a couple days.
[QUOTE=Nuupter;2012788]Can anyone please tell me when would the LU be back to normal or get busy again after Easter April 16? How is the LU like generally either the 1st week of April or a week after Easters? .[/QUOTE]Easter is different from Christmas time. Be sure that especially the ladies without children at home will stay. It's four nights for partying, from Thursday to Sunday / Monday and making revenues.
[QUOTE=FunExplorer;2013285] As I was sitting, a Romanian was looking at me and smiling all the time for the past 20 minutes or so. Each time I looked at her she was smiling. I was not sure whether I should ask her to come. However, she ended the uncertainty and sat next to me. She was Niki and very friendly. She did not upsell but promised me good time. Needless to say, I went with her to room. Oh, she gave excellent BJ and she is very skillful. She cooperated very well for multiple positions and did not find my fingering her pussy. After doggy, finding that I was still hard, she gave me BJ and I exploded into her mouth. It was fantastic. I would say she is one of best girls in Sharks.[/QUOTE]Did this girl have lots of tattoos on the arm / shoulder? Was her hair somewhat reddish in colour? If so, this Nikki is NOT Romanian, but Bulgarian. You are right: Great girl.
[QUOTE=Bilasa08;2013011]Hi guys,
Can anyone share some info regarding Carmen.
I spent some wonderful time with her at the room last week.
She has a dark hair, hugh tits and a great ass.
She said she is from Hamburg?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Maybe you can tell us more about her ? You were in the room with her.
[QUOTE=Tedesco;2013459]Easter is different from Christmas time.[/QUOTE]This is what I learned in school too! And what catholic and orthodox religion tell us.
[QUOTE=Nuupter;2012788]Can anyone please tell me when would the LU be back to normal or get busy again after Easter April 16? How is the LU like generally either the 1st week of April or a week after Easters?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sorry again and again nobody is able to tell you what will be the LU in any FKK in the coming weeks or even tomorrow, but if you visit the big clubs for a full day for sure there will be more girls at your taste that you want this is for sure.
[QUOTE=Ortos;2013463]Did this girl have lots of tattoos on the arm / shoulder? Was her hair somewhat reddish in colour? If so, this Nikki is NOT Romanian, but Bulgarian. You are right: Great girl.[/QUOTE]Yes indeed, you are right. She is from Bulgaria. I mistakenly mentioned as Romanian.
[QUOTE=Nuupter;2012788]Can anyone please tell me when would the LU be back to normal or get busy again after Easter April 16? How is the LU like generally either the 1st week of April or a week after Easters?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]It is impossible to predict the line up not only at Sharks but other FKKs for that matter. How could one anticipate what will be in store for you when you visit? I would say it depends upon your plain luck. I have experienced fantastic line ups and ordinary ones even at Sharks and Oase, where generally line up is at least good.
[QUOTE=Tedesco;2013459]Easter is different from Christmas time. Be sure that especially the ladies without children at home will stay. It's four nights for partying, from Thursday to Sunday / Monday and making revenues.[/QUOTE]Easter is very important for Orthodox. Nothing about children. Most good business Orthodox girls will return with their family. Should be low casting week end, good time to finish ski.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2012811]for those who are married or have a stable relation difficult to explain what they were doing in a club[/QUOTE]But Sharks have plenty of guests who have no sessions at all, just eat, sauna, watch TV, chat with one another, etc.
I admire guys who visit clubs without having any sessions. They almost have no contact with the working women.
I mean, they must have a heart as determined as a catholic priest not to approach women and not let women approach him.
I want to try this next time I go to Germany. Staying all day and resist my desire to approach women. It's like a training program to challenge my determination to resist sexy women.
LOL.
I'm not sure there's much point in me reporting on Sharks as it is so well known. Friday night there must have been 100 girls but a deficiency of men. At 21.00 most of these girls were, and had been, unoccupied. Around this time the clientele was changing ethnically, with more Turkish guests, who some girls seem to wish to avoid. The club was however incredibly sedate.
The sheer number of girls made it hard in the gloom to keep track of the six or seven girls who caught my real interest. There were two or three really nice looking girls.
In the main room there was rarely anywhere to sit comfortably so it wasn't really a place for long term chilling out.
I was as usual with Betty, who is delighted to have an easy regular good customer. The advantage of this is couch time and eating: the downside is that this leaves little time or money for other explorations. In addition her comrades keep an eye on what I as a supposedly loyal customer, enjoying the loyalty points of free couch time, get up to with other girls.Today was a competition to see who would come most: it was a tie :)
I declined Angelina, with whom I have been several times, and who deals with me gently and respectfully despite her reputation as an over assertive person. There is a lot lot more to her than most reports suggest. Really worth a try provided one can handle her.
One of the nice looking girls is Brenda who stands on the right side of the bar near the entrance. Slim with amongst the largest natural firm breasts I have seen. Really remarkable. She has been there two years and gives really good service but, like most girls there, doesn't get mentioned.
I just thought I'd share my report from Friday night. I arrived around 1230 pm. I turned away girls for about the first three hours before I had my first session. I wasn't sure how long I would stay and did not want to spend my money too soon.
One of the girls I turned away was Michelle, a half Romanian / half Turkish according to her, but I thought she looked more Turkish. She doesn't have the look or super fit athletic body that I normally find attractive, but there was something exotic about her. She was my first and man did she set the standard. Performance wise probably one of my favorite FKK encounters. Lots of DFK and passion throughout the entire time. I would certainly see her again.
My second session was with a girl I approached. If I remember correct she was Bulgarian and her name was Nikki. The thing that attracted me to her was her tight athletic body. She is a brunette with a tattoo on one of her upper arms. Lots of LFK / some DFK and overall another great session.
My last session was with a cute 20 year old brunette Romanian (maybe she was the Bulgarian) named DeDe. I caught her soon after she arrived maybe around 2000. I approached her while she was sitting on the stage smoking. Once again another great session. I had a great time with her.
Overall, I felt like I won the jackpot having three great sessions in one evening. I finally left at 2145 to catch the 2215 train back to Frankfurt, because I felt like it was the same girls I saw all day and more guys were showing up.
I do have one question. Around 2000 I noticed a gorgeous tan, brunette wearing black stockings and a towel around her chest. She was chatting with a couple different guys before I had the chance to approach her. When I finally did she claimed she did not speak English and only spoke German. She was sitting in the chairs by the money lockers. Since she had a towel around her chest, did this mean she wasn't working? She seemed to know some regular guys so I'm thinking she wanted nothing to do with me.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2013949]Friday night there must have been 100 girls but a deficiency of men. At 21.00 most of these girls were, and had been, unoccupied. Around this time the clientele was changing ethnically, with more Turkish guests, who some girls seem to wish to avoid. The club was however incredibly sedate.[/QUOTE]Same as on last Wednesday! The whole afternoon and early evening a leaden heaviness had occupied the club, the atmosphere was more or less "dead" despite more than hundred women in the club. But the situation changed after 10:45 pm, when lots of new men came in the club, or returned to the core business after having been attracted to watching soccer on TV.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2013949]One of the nice looking girls is Brenda who stands on the right side of the bar near the entrance. Slim with amongst the largest natural firm breasts I have seen. Really remarkable. She has been there two years and gives really good service but, like most girls there, doesn't get mentioned.[/QUOTE]Please be careful. If you talk about "really good service", you should know the actual situation and price levels. Obviously Brenda has joined the bandwagon: no more good service for 50 Euros from her too! If one is willing to spend 100 Euros or more, nowadays one will get the things that were normal for 50 Euros middle of last year at Sharks!
[QUOTE=FunExplorer;2013655]Yes indeed, you are right. She is from Bulgaria. I mistakenly mentioned as Romanian.[/QUOTE]She is very good. I would recommend her for a truly GFE. She had no problem when I was fingering her pussy as she gave me an excellent BJ. In fact, I wanted to have second session with her before I left for the day, but she was too busy with an old German (and looked like went with him for a good couple of hours to the room. I will surely repeat her during my next visit.
I tried to find this information on website. Can I pay for entry fee and food from restaurant there on credit card?
TIA.
[QUOTE=JoeCoodidge;2014054]I tried to find this information on website. Can I pay for entry fee and food from restaurant there on credit card?
TIA.[/QUOTE]Cash only.
[QUOTE=JoeCoodidge;2014054]I tried to find this information on website. Can I pay for entry fee and food from restaurant there on credit card?
TIA.[/QUOTE]Some clubs do accept credit card with a surcharge of 10% but most clubs do not. I am not so sure about Sharks. Anyway food from restaurant is free and you do not have to pay anything for that. So are beverages. They are included in the entrance fee.
Nick the G. Yes, you are right. Brenda has joined the "good service for 100 euros" bandwagon. I should have made it clear. If one only wants 30 minutes then her service is not acceptable (to me).
[QUOTE=JoeCoodidge;2014054]I tried to find this information on website. Can I pay for entry fee and food from restaurant there on credit card?
TIA.[/QUOTE]Usually foods and drinks are included in big German clubs, except Oceans for 30 rate.
Usually can't pay with credit card. Can in Switzerland or Austria.
[QUOTE=JoeCoodidge;2014054]I tried to find this information on website. Can I pay for entry fee and food from restaurant there on credit card?
TIA.[/QUOTE]Take cash it is far easier and also the girls want to get cash.
Can anyone give some advises or example conversation when you negotiate with the girl about the price? I'm going to be in Frankfurt next 2 weeks. This is my first time and I'm an asian guy and don't want to have the feeling of being ripped off.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Hoanghuya25;2014225]Can anyone give some advises or example conversation when you negotiate with the girl about the price? I'm going to be in Frankfurt next 2 weeks. This is my first time and I'm an asian guy and don't want to have the feeling of being ripped off.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]First, don't say it's your first club, say you have been to GT, Artemis, Globe Zurich. Girls at Sharks, Oase, World or Mainhattan, don't know these clubs. Then, go to girls who attract You, don t wait to be hunted, ask the girl about what You like, rate for what You like. 50/30 mn, CIM 50, anal 100. I never experienced, but seem more and more Sharks and Oase girls ask now 100 for GFE 30 mn room, meaning You will have 1 or 2 light kisses for extra 50 . Medusa girls stuck on your face and taking your breathe all along 2 hours, I experienced 2 yesterday in 2 different NRW clubs, coming to fluently kissing with passion when You fuck them, don't ask for extra, but better not to smell like ashtray. Real GFE illusion, even kissing more than some real girlfriends.
I don't want anymore to ask about services and never speak about rates with girls, it kills my illusion and desire, I m confident in my manners to behave with women, to get what I like and most of times, they want to please me, without extra nor upselling nor tip. New, first time met, busy girl yesterday, just said: You like me? You promise You will come again? Can You bring me a present from Paris, Eiffel tower to put keys, 5 € . Not expensive girl.
Even brothels and prostitutes, just women and men. Money won't never buy some behavior. You are sometimes surprised to get from some girls, then real pleasure, behavior is more important for me than performances. Performances are important for me in job and sports.
[QUOTE=Hoanghuya25;2014225]Can anyone give some advises or example conversation.[/QUOTE]I posted a typical meet & greet in this post:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1779789&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1779789.
As to negotiations there really isn't any because pricing is standard: 50 eur /30 min; +50 for CIM, +100 for anal. Unless you want something super special, but you'll need to negotiate that according to your budget.
[QUOTE=Hoanghuya25;2014225]Can anyone give some advises or example conversation when you negotiate with the girl about the price? I'm going to be in Frankfurt next 2 weeks. This is my first time and I'm an asian guy and don't want to have the feeling of being ripped off.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Nobody like being ripped off. Although east Asian do get ripped off at FKK land more often than Caucasian. Just remember that E50 will give you up to 30 min suck (covered or BBBJ) and Fuck (covered). Although 25 min is ok for me. Each additional HR is E50 . CIM and anal is extra. Talk to them, don't be shy with them. Tell them what you are looking for. I can normally tell if the girl is up.
To service during those conversation. Have a good time.
BTW, I will be at Shark on April 5 Wednesday (discount day) and Oase on April 1 Saturday. I am Chinese American. We can meet up if you are going there those two days.
[QUOTE=DaWong949;2014283]Nobody like being ripped off. Although east Asian do get ripped off at FKK land more often than Caucasian. Just remember that E50 will give you up to 30 min suck (covered or BBBJ) and Fuck (covered). Although 25 min is ok for me. Each additional HR is E50 . CIM and anal is extra. Talk to them, don't be shy with them. Tell them what you are looking for. I can normally tell if the girl is up.
To service during those conversation. Have a good time.
BTW, I will be at Shark on April 5 Wednesday (discount day) and Oase on April 1 Saturday. I am Chinese American. We can meet up if you are going there those two days.[/QUOTE]In addition, take your time, at your arrival you will be a little be aggressed by many girls (they like Asian guys and they name you 5550,5 cm, 5 minutes, 50 euros), no say thank you sorry not now, walked around, go to the sauna, make your choice of the girl and after just smoothly explain what you are looking for. CIM should be 50 euros and anal 100.
By 19.00 there was nowhere to park and I ended up about ten minutes walk away.
The atmosphere was much better than Friday night and there were plenty of girls and men. Several girls approached me and I would have said yes but I was committed to an appointment.
Sometimes FKK life gets complicated. I had got diverted so I texted a girl who had been expecting me and told her I would not be coming: it turns out that she had been expecting me at my normal time and had turned down a good paying regular. As a result I made the the effort to turn up, around 19.00. I am used to this phenomenon: as an overseas customer, girls have always put off local customers in favor of me simply because I couldn't come every week whereas local regulars could be rescheduled. Unfortunately on this occasion the girl realised that her business planning had not been entirely rational and that she could easily have gone with her regular as well as me and was depressed about her loss of money. Especially when I didn't extend beyond two hours: when I told her after 90 minutes that I would stop at two hours she lost heart (and also the money from several extras we had agreed to do). She even turned down my offer of a decent gratuity.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2014272]First, don't say it's your first club, say you have been to GT, Artemis, Globe Zurich. Girls at Sharks, Oase, World or Mainhattan, don't know these clubs. Then, go to girls who attract You, don t wait to be hunted, ask the girl about what You like, rate for what You like. 50/30 mn, CIM 50, anal 100. I never experienced, but seem more and more Sharks and Oase girls ask now 100 for GFE 30 mn room, meaning You will have 1 or 2 light kisses for extra 50 . Medusa girls stuck on your face and taking your breathe all along 2 hours, I experienced 2 yesterday in 2 different NRW clubs, coming to fluently kissing with passion when You fuck them, don't ask for extra, but better not to smell like ashtray. Real GFE illusion, even kissing more than some real girlfriends.
I don't want anymore to ask about services and never speak about rates with girls, it kills my illusion and desire, I m confident in my manners to behave with women, to get what I like and most of times, they want to please me, without extra nor upselling nor tip. New, first time met, busy girl yesterday, just said: You like me? You promise You will come again? Can You bring me a present from Paris, Eiffel tower to put keys, 5 . Not expensive girl.
Even brothels and prostitutes, just women and men. Money won't never buy some behavior. You are sometimes surprised to get from some girls, then real pleasure, behavior is more important for me than performances. Performances are important for me in job and sports.[/QUOTE]Very nice summary, it is exactly what I do but you need a long experience to behave like that but definitely I have great sessions (long) with girls most of you report negatively just because they know me since a long time and they behave like a GF. You can't buy chemistry between people.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2014371]She even turned down my offer of a decent gratuity.[/QUOTE]That's a keeper. One of the qualities I look for in club regular.
She also sounds very nice or maybe even good feelings for you. As an oversea customer myself, I've had a couple of no shows my ex-regular girls. I told them what days I was coming days before and when I got there they were with other customers. So I don't think all girls prioritize oversea customers over locals. She might like you more than just a customer.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2014428]That's a keeper. One of the qualities I look for in club regular.
She also sounds very nice or maybe even good feelings for you. As an oversea customer myself, I've had a couple of no shows my ex-regular girls. I told them what days I was coming days before and when I got there they were with other customers. So I don't think all girls prioritize oversea customers over locals. She might like you more than just a customer.[/QUOTE]Often the girls are booked by regulars for long sessions which are very stressful for them and guarantee of a good money. When I want to have a long session with one of my favorite I send her a message telling her I will come at 12 am and so she will wait for me and will not take a customer before knowing that she will get enough cash that day.
Hi all,
Thank you guys for your enthusiastic help. I like to have a session with GFE, DATY and DFK. The anal or CIM is not my cup of tea. So it seems to me that I have to pay 100 E for my fancy things. It's hard to get DFK without paying the extra.
FanOfViagra,
On the contrary, I think Sirioja is being a helpful and kind model of this forum.
Since there are no other categories under each club's thread, it is sometimes very difficult to search for certain information.
I was a newbie before, so I can relate to the newbies.
And if Sirioja's first language is French, then he's using his energy to answer some newbies with a non-first language, so what he's doing is even more impressive.
Anyway, it is very crucial for us mongers / punters to urge all other newbies not to spoil the girls!
We have to unite and insist on getting good service including DFK for 50 Euros!
First, Palace. Second, Oase. Now it's Sharks. Girls start expecting a minimum payment of 100 Euros. What's next?
The German locals keep the price fixed at 50 Euros for over 10+ years. We may not be locals, but we still have responsibility to help FKK Sauna clubs maintain how they used to be.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2014428]That's a keeper. One of the qualities I look for in club regular.
She also sounds very nice or maybe even good feelings for you. As an oversea customer myself, I've had a couple of no shows my ex-regular girls. I told them what days I was coming days before and when I got there they were with other customers. So I don't think all girls prioritize oversea customers over locals. She might like you more than just a customer.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. She also aborted on about 150 from me on extras. I guess however money orientated a girl is their moods sometimes get in the way.
I guess I have been spoilt as my regular girls, if they are the busy girls, have made space for me. The downside is that I then feel duty bound to go with them and they then get jealous if I go with another girl: that's crazy. It's the hermetic world of all FKK
Nastia.
So yesterday I visited Sharks again. It was after several months of absence, because several times I have been disappointed by the LU or maybe I got too used to it. The thing is I have to drive more than 700 km in about 7 h hours (BTW just before Koln the Autobahn is closed, lots of traffic jam, about 1 h lost!
Besides, I still had 3 entries in my card and knowing that the kondomplficht might enter in effect in July it might be good idea to visit before that incertitude. Outside that law, a German girl told me months ago another law could make the entry of Romanian girls much harder. Can you imagine FKKs without Romanian girls!? Well, we will have a small for taste in Easter. I would certainly not drive 700 km for that.
My intention was to meet Janine, tell her goodbye, that I was still ok to marry her, just kidding. I checked in German and French forums and it turns out she's was there the 2 last Saturday, but unfortunately, not yesterday.
One of the weak points of the Sharks is that (very) pretty don't show before at least 3 pm so I sessioned Megan with different hair color. She recognized me and service was good, but I should have wait Nastia.
The wow girl that will make remembered that visit is Nastia, brown haired, about 1. 77 m, beautiful shape of breast, nice ass and pretty. To my very personal opinion, her face kind of remind me that girl [URL]https://www.indexxx.com/models/756/kyra-tyelar/[/URL] , but Nastia is better. She was a little clumsy, but authentic, I liked how she behaved.
Last session was with a very new girl named something that sounds like Eebru (? Of course, I don't know the spelling). Pretty face, I was surprised to know she's from Romania. I think she's still too new so the service was standard.
I will probably come back for Nastia. I think I should have only session her. Mmh, there will be one day when I will have the maturity not to shoot automatically at least three times, and content myself with only one girl.
Other stuffs: I discovered they removed the kino for cheap rooms, there was one Spanish girl (forgot the name, she was wearing a small tie).
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2014272]First, don't say it's your first club, say you have been to GT, Artemis, Globe Zurich. Girls at Sharks, Oase, World or Mainhattan, don't know these clubs. Then, go to girls who attract You, don t wait to be hunted, ask the girl about what You like, rate for what You like. 50/30 mn, CIM 50, anal 100. I never experienced, but seem more and more Sharks and Oase girls ask now 100 for GFE 30 mn room, meaning You will have 1 or 2 light kisses for extra 50 . Medusa girls stuck on your face and taking your breathe all along 2 hours, I experienced 2 yesterday in 2 different NRW clubs, coming to fluently kissing with passion when You fuck them, don't ask for extra, but better not to smell like ashtray. Real GFE illusion, even kissing more than some real girlfriends.
I don't want anymore to ask about services and never speak about rates with girls, it kills my illusion and desire, I m confident in my manners to behave with women, to get what I like and most of times, they want to please me, without extra nor upselling nor tip. New, first time met, busy girl yesterday, just said: You like me? You promise You will come again? Can You bring me a present from Paris, Eiffel tower to put keys, 5 . Not expensive girl.
Even brothels and prostitutes, just women and men. Money won't never buy some behavior. You are sometimes surprised to get from some girls, then real pleasure, behavior is more important for me than performances. Performances are important for me in job and sports.[/QUOTE]Sirioja I agree with you.
Could be an illusion, but I also thinks that a little bit of mystery in the room-meeting have to be left.
If you like the girl, so go with her and let that things could happen. I don't like to plan everything in detail: time, performances, rate, etc.
I sometime started with the girl to whom I initially supposed to stay 30 min and I stayed 2 h because things became so involving.
I had great experiences with some beautiful girls who were supposed to be 'missile', and in the bed they changed their mind. On the contrary some girls assured me about everything I asked them in the lounge and in the bed nothing was actually maintained.
So go with the flow. If you realise that you chose the wrong girl. Never mind. Change her with a smile and go with another one.
Anyone know who the blond newbie friend of Yellis? She looks hot with a PSE body. Might give her a try.
Think I'm gonna fuck Brenda as well. Last time with her as Leya about 18 months ago and it wasn't so great. Hope her service has improved by now. Wish me luck this time around.
Howie.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2013949]
One of the nice looking girls is Brenda who stands on the right side of the bar near the entrance. Slim with amongst the largest natural firm breasts I have seen. Really remarkable. She has been there two years and gives really good service but, like most girls there, doesn't get mentioned.[/QUOTE]She gets discussed in the two German forums. Seems like Elizz, Milana (Serbia), Mia are more popular in local forums.
An early arrival meant the best parking space. But then I realised that there were zero girls. By 13.00 there were only 10 girls working, with about 30 men. Even by 15.00 there were only 30 girls and only one or two attractive ones. Like KingofBongo says. I had a list of recommendations but couldn't find most of them and two I did identify were booked solid. By 17.00 there were innumerable girls and plenty of really good looking girls, although several spent all the time with their towels wrapped round them, which should automatically disqualify them from being booked.
A typical odd FKK tale. A chap was using the urinal and for some reason this annoyed a very beefy man wanting to go for a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. The chap using it then decided to take the metaphorical [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] by taking several minutes to finish, in which time the beefy tattooed man had started shouting and went to get security. By the time he got back with Sharks staff the urinal was unoccupied and he looked a right idiot.
I noticed several ex World regulars who now spend their Sundays in Sharks.
A group of local regular men were discussing which girls were trying the 50 euros no kiss scam, or even worse, were refusing 50 euro sessions. They were not a happy bunch.
The water cooler has been broken for two days now.
[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2014590]there was one Spanish girl (forgot the name, she was wearing a small tie).[/QUOTE]Blond hair and rather tall? Her name is Sorana!
[QUOTE=Howie;2014650]Think I'm gonna fuck Brenda as well. Last time with her as Leya about 18 months ago and it wasn't so great. Hope her service has improved by now. Wish me luck this time around..[/QUOTE]She likes the smell of money. Like many other girls at Sharks too. So, don't rely on hope or luck, the perfume you should use when contacting her has to smell like lots of money!
[QUOTE=Optimist;2014750]By 17.00 there were innumerable girls and plenty of really good looking girls, although several spent all the time with their towels wrapped round them, which should automatically disqualify them from being booked.[/QUOTE]For a conscious human being, there is no need to follow automatic patterns when establishing contact to other human beings, even in a brothel.
[QUOTE=Kolmar;2014637]Sirioja I agree with you.
Could be an illusion, but I also thinks that a little bit of mystery in the room-meeting have to be left.
If you like the girl, so go with her and let that things could happen. I don't like to plan everything in detail: time, performances, rate, etc.
I sometime started with the girl to whom I initially supposed to stay 30 min and I stayed 2 h because things became so involving.
I had great experiences with some beautiful girls who were supposed to be 'missile', and in the bed they changed their mind. On the contrary some girls assured me about everything I asked them in the lounge and in the bed nothing was actually maintained.
So go with the flow. If you realise that you chose the wrong girl. Never mind. Change her with a smile and go with another one.[/QUOTE]If you list all services provided, rates, it becomes so boring about paid sex with a prostitute in a brothel, not enjoyable for me. I prefer now discovery and game. But Stefi was right when was saying I should have asked her about kissing, I don't anymore, my mistake with her, most of times no problem for kissing without any extra asked.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2014750] A typical odd FKK tale. A chap was using the urinal and for some reason this annoyed a very beefy man wanting to go to pass water. The chap using it then decided to take the metaphorical pass water by taking several minutes to finish, in which time the beefy tattooed man had started shouting and went to get security. By the time he got back with Sharks staff the urinal was unoccupied and he looked a right idiot.[/QUOTE]I think the beefy tattooed man would be more annoyed if the chap was passing water in the hand wash basin with a salute to hygiene by letting the cold water tap run to flush the personally generated waste water down the sink. It is a bit shocking seeing customers do that when they cannot wait to use the urinals. Looking back on it now it is quite an interesting solution to the queue for the urinals. Well done.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2014750]The water cooler has been broken for two days now. [/QUOTE]This is very important to know. The bar can be very slow to serve but not in the mornings when there is few customers in situ.
First time back in Darmstadt for almost a year therefore determined to make the most of this opportunity by camping close to Sharks at one of the excellent value for money Maritim hotels near to the centre and HBF train station.
While there on Friday between 3 pm and 8 pm, I was thinking the line up consisted of a few girls I'd rate in the 8's but for the most part 6's and 7's and of course a few 4's and 5's however, come 9 pm the demographic had dramatically changed dramatically with plenty of 9's now in attendance among a population of at the very least 100 girls. I'm not a great one for names and mostly opted for blondes in my selection process and has been widely reported, three out of my Friday four were seeking a 100.00 before they would consider DFK, that is disappointing. One of them claimed it was now Club policy.
Saturday I delayed arrival until 5 pm dinner time and was disappointed to note the hot food available was virtually the same choice as the previous evening. Three girls on Saturday and this time I carefully questioned them before sealing the 30 minute deal while qualifying that proper kissing was a viable option, a couple declined my proposal but happily three readily accepted.
Sunday I walked the 4 km Hotel -Sharks and was on the premises much earlier in time for a delicious lunch of smoked salmon, and little relaxation by the pool in the glorious spring sunshine followed by two amazing sessions with non blondes.
As always, I enjoyed myself immensely. Certainly won't be leaving it a year before returning. And good to see the old Italian "granny" is no longer in attendance, invariably trying to hustle and hassle gentlemen into submission.
I spent last Wednesday from 4 pm to 2 pm at Sharks. As with previous reports, there were about 100 girls there. I was impressed with the LU quality. For me personally, it was the top LU that week for me based on quantity and quality.
Mandy (or is it Nikki ((CZ) - I was approached by a small blond girl with her hair pulled and slicked back with a bun held together by a butterfly clip. She was about 165-170 cm with heels, is 25 years old, has tanned skin, a birth mark of some sort on her right tricep and says she's from CZ. When I met her on Wednesday, I thought she introduced herself as Mandy, but when I met her on Saturday, she said her name is Nikki. Can anyone clarify her name if you recognize her description? She is not a rookie, so I was careful, but wanted to bang her. We get into the room and she asked if I wanted to spend an hour so we can "relaaaaax, smoke, I massage you, blow job and sex," she said. I knew that she's a pro from that sell, but I still wanted to bank her. I said let's do 1/2 hour and see. She looked disappointed. BBBJ, no kissing, light pussy play with my fingers and then standard sex of cowgirl, missionary and side laying down doggie. In missionary she was like a UFC fighter and was in full guard with stiff legs so I couldn't go at my own pace and deep. When I asked for doggie, she said she had too much sex yesterday and cannot do doggie, but offered up side laying doggie. For most of the time, she placed her hand near her kitty as if to make sure the condom stayed on. This was not a GFE session, but I enjoyed having sex with her petite tanned body. It took me almost the full 30 minutes to finish, which I could tell that she was getting impatient with fake "see'Mon. Baby I want you to come in my little pussy" dirty talk. When we finished, she asked for a tip. I said not this time. She took it with grace.
Nastia (RO) - Nastia approached me. She is as described by other members with a model like body and nice boobs. I was attracted to her, but I can see how some members don't find her hot. She has that quirky model look. If you like the model look, I think you'll like her. We had some couch time before going to the room. On the couch, she asked me if I like kissing. I said that I love kissing. She said that kissing was only for 1 hour sessions. I said let's stick with 1/2 hour then and see if I want to extend to 1 hour. She reminded me that there was no kissing unless it's 1 hour. I reminded her that I'm happy with 1/2 hour and see how we get along before I stay longer and that it was up to her if we stay in the room longer. In the room, was BBBJ and sex only. I was satisfied, but didn't find value to extend to 1 hour just for kissing. Nastia is actually a very funny and sarcastic girl. We joked a lot in the room and throughout the night on the floor. She also asked for a tip. I also said that no tip was available. She was ok with that.
Emma (RO) - Emma kind of looked like Denise Richards (minor celebrity who marred Charlie Sheen) to me with full lips and shapely, but think eyebrows. Another nice BBBJ and sex in the room for 1/2 hour. Nothing extraordinary, but no regrets. She also asked for a tip, to which I said no tip available.
Janine (DE) - I saw Janine checking in at the front desk in her street clothes. Very cute girl. She had a nice tan (from the solarium she said). I went with her for 1/2 hour. Compared to the first time I saw her when she just started, she has improved. Nothing earth shattering, but it seems that she is more comfortable with the job. She is more talkative (perhaps knows more English now). Her BBBJ was more passionate and she made share that I had a good view of her giving me BBBJ. In mish, instead of closing her eyes when I first saw her, she was making eye contact and also looking down at her kitty watching the action. Cowgirl was very vigorous on her part. When I asked for doggie, she enthusiastically assumed the doggie position and was letting out moans. When I finished in doggie, she let out a big "woooooooo!" I definitely see improvement with Janine. The 1/2 hour was fine with me and she didn't push for anymore, didn't upsell and didn't ask for tips. I like Janine.
On Saturday I went back to Sharks after checking out Oase earlier in the day. I liked the Sharks LU on Wednesday and Saturday better than Oase's LU. Too many fake tits and aggressive attitude at Oase. I'll share more of my experience at Oase in that thread later.
Magda (RO) - Magda hangs out at the couches next to the money locker and at the end of the bar near the coaches close to the money lockers. Magda is a little but more full body and not as athletic, but is nice. She is not one of the hot girls at the club but more of a girl next door type. She has dark straight hair and pale skin. She carries a red purse that has a cartoon face on it. While speaking to her on the floor, I could see that she is a very nice girl. I decided to take her for 1/2 hour. She was very affectionate when we were waiting in the room. Once inside the room, without asking she went for DFK. BBBJ felt good and didn't stop until I asked her to put on a condom for sex. Cowgirl, mish and doggie was to be had. I had a fun time with Magda. She has no attitude and is a very nice girl.
Florentina (RO) - Florentina has a nice athletic body, tanned, A-cups, straight dark hair. She is very nice to talk to on the floor and is wild in the room. Florentina also started DFK without hesitation. BBBJ was excellent as she paid attention to my reactions and changed the BBBJ accordingly. Sex was great and loud. Very nice girl.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2014770]For a conscious human being, there is no need to follow automatic patterns when establishing contact to other human beings, even in a brothel.[/QUOTE]You read too much Sartre?. Automatic patterns sometimes are useful (like the autonomous systems in the body: essential but can be adjusted).
Howie. As McAdonis said there is discussion of Brenda outside this forum. It seems that some 30 minute sessions with her include DFK (not passionate) and some are very restricted as Nick suggests. So, a gamble.
[QUOTE=Pentire;2014803] three out of my Friday four were seeking a 100.00 before they would consider DFK, that is disappointing. One of them claimed it was now Club policy...
Saturday and this time I carefully questioned them before sealing the 30 minute deal while qualifying that proper kissing was a viable option, a couple declined my proposal but happily three readily accepted.[/QUOTE]I also have been advised it is club policy. But then I get told so much BS.
You are an example to us all to hold out for decent service.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2014827]I also have been advised it is club policy. But then I get told so much BS.
You are an example to us all to hold out for decent service.[/QUOTE]Don't agree with it is so many years that we are paying 50 euros and also parity USD / Euro is very favorable for those who have revenues in dollars or currency linked. Now some guys are hunting about how much thay can get for 50 euros or even less it is just their motivation, if money is the main driver better to visit RLD which is far cheaper. Never take a girl for 30 minutes, can't enjoy her so the 100 euros is changing nothing for me, I prefer 1 long session than 3 girls in a rush.
Can anyone advise on the best way to get from airport to Sharks (during the day) and then back to airport (during the night)?
[QUOTE=KirkLazarus;2014804]I spent last Wednesday from 4 pm to 2 pm at Sharks. As with previous reports, there were about 100 girls there. I was impressed with the LU quality. For me personally, it was the top LU that week for me based on quantity and quality.
Mandy (or is it Nikki ((CZ) - I was approached by a small blond girl with her hair pulled and slicked back with a bun held together by a butterfly clip. She was about 165-170 cm with heels, is 25 years old, has tanned skin, a birth mark of some sort on her right tricep and says she's from CZ. When I met her on Wednesday, I thought she introduced herself as Mandy, but when I met her on Saturday, she said her name is Nikki. Can anyone clarify her name if you recognize her description? She is not a rookie, so I was careful, but wanted to bang her. We get into the room and she asked if I wanted to spend an hour so we can "relaaaaax, smoke, I massage you, blow job and sex," she said. I knew that she's a pro from that sell, but I still wanted to bank her. I said let's do 1/2 hour and see. She looked disappointed. BBBJ, no kissing, light pussy play with my fingers and then standard sex of cowgirl, missionary and side laying down doggie. In missionary she was like a UFC fighter and was in full guard with stiff legs so I couldn't go at my own pace and deep. When I asked for doggie, she said she had too much sex yesterday and cannot do doggie, but offered up side laying doggie. For most of the time, she placed her hand near her kitty as if to make sure the condom stayed on. This was not a GFE session, but I enjoyed having sex with her petite tanned body..[/QUOTE]That obviously is not Nikki. Nikki is from Bulgaria and very GFE. See my report earlier.
[QUOTE=KirkLazarus;2014804]
Emma (RO) - Emma kind of looked like Denise Richards (minor celebrity who marred Charlie Sheen) to me with full lips and shapely, but think eyebrows. Another nice BBBJ and sex in the room for 1/2 hour. Nothing extraordinary, but no regrets. She also asked for a tip, to which I said no tip available.
[/QUOTE]Really? I thought blonde Christina who used to be at Oase, reminded me a little of Denise Richards (when blonde), a "big star" in bond movie "The World is Not Enough" as Dr. Christmas Jones (Nuclear expert). LOL Voted by some as the worst Bond girl ever, but I was enthralled.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6366rRm3uHE[/URL]
Bond: "I was wrong about you".
Christmas: "How so?
Bond: "I was told Christmas comes only once per year. "
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2014513]FanOfViagra,
On the contrary, I think Sirioja is being a helpful and kind model of this forum.
Since there are no other categories under each club's thread, it is sometimes very difficult to search for certain information.
I was a newbie before, so I can relate to the newbies.
And if Sirioja's first language is French, then he's using his energy to answer some newbies with a non-first language, so what he's doing is even more impressive.
Anyway, it is very crucial for us mongers / punters to urge all other newbies not to spoil the girls!
We have to unite and insist on getting good service including DFK for 50 Euros!
First, Palace. Second, Oase. Now it's Sharks. Girls start expecting a minimum payment of 100 Euros. What's next?
The German locals keep the price fixed at 50 Euros for over 10+ years. We may not be locals, but we still have responsibility to help FKK Sauna clubs maintain how they used to be.[/QUOTE]I endorse your views. We must resist move to exclude DFK by girls for Euro 50, though not all girls do that. But their tribe is increasing and I feel so in the last six months. As you rightly put it starting from Palace. Quite a few girls in Palace say that she is not a Euro 50 girl. And that's spreading.
Seem Sharks and Oase run now same way: 50 € are only for Turkish suck and fuck. I'm not a 30' guy with my foreplay, but my experience are girls who ask money or extended time for kissing are not the best kisser, even Agnes was good over 1 hour, becoming very good for 2 hours, but I don't see woman type like Agnes at the moment there, except Marina. Lat. When I find girls who worth the game, I never stay 30', but I won't stay more than 30' and no repeat with a not kissing girl. Fortunately, can find in NRW, real kisser girls without upselling. No need to deal for time and rate in NRW, not an Arabian market, just fluent rooms with real GFE illusion. Sharks and Oase are too touristic market now. Not the faintest up selling for me with the busiest girl at Palace at night, and she is German. Also no upselling from Mandy. De at Sharks, just small blond with lips tattoo on ass right side, but a real kissing, sweet candy. I don't think legendary honey Sandra. De upsell for kissing.
Times changed in clubs, but can also change and move to discover other clubs casting, Samya is far higher for me at the moment. No Emma. De Oceans, nor superb blue eyes brunette at Samya, seen at Oase, nor Sharks since Megan turned to blond. No Luana also.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2014883]Really? I thought blonde Christina who used to be at Oase, reminded me a little of Denise Richards (when blonde), a "big star" in bond movie "The World is Not Enough" as Dr. Christmas Jones (Nuclear expert). LOL Voted by some as the worst Bond girl ever, but I was enthralled.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6366rRm3uHE[/URL]
Bond: "I was wrong about you".
Christmas: "How so?
Bond: "I was told Christmas comes only once per year. "[/QUOTE]In your loving eyes. Like Lexi with porn Brigitte Lahaye.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2014883]Denise Richards (when blonde), a "big star" in bond movie "The World is Not Enough"[/QUOTE]Bearing in mind this is the ISG, the more appropriate and enthralling Denise Richards film to recommend is 'Wild Things' where there are close ups of her nude, and she also has a threesome with Neve Campbell. See attachment.
Is the asking for tips a new trend at Sharks also?
Need to put this sign up at the lounge, LOL.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2014920]Need to put this sign up at the lounge, LOL.[/QUOTE]Will not work! In accordance with the law, only the receptionists, thekefraus, and service personnel are 'employees'.
But I guess I would not mind tipping a particular very pretty blonde thekefrau there if she would show her boobs to me.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2014947]Will not work! In accordance with the law, only the receptionists, thekefraus, and service personnel are 'employees'.
But I guess I would not mind tipping a particular very pretty blonde thekefrau there if she would show her boobs to me.[/QUOTE]LOL.
The tall skinny one? Can't rmb her exact hair colour but I would session her, hehe.
There are report cards on the desk where you can make a complaint about a girl. No box to put it in, and I guess they're not much used. Hard to envisage a complaint that a girl didn't kiss for 50. Not sure.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2014949]The tall skinny one? Can't rmb her exact hair colour but I would session her, hehe.[/QUOTE]There is a slim one with high full shaped breasts with blonde hair who generally does Sharks reception in the day time. She looks good in her pictures.
[QUOTE=Leduq;2014854]Can anyone advise on the best way to get from airport to Sharks (during the day) and then back to airport (during the night)?[/QUOTE]The best way to do it is from airport shuttle bus called -Airliner.
Once you get out airport, proceed to bus stop 14 (or 13), the last one on your right hand if you just get out airport.
Here is the link:
[URL]https://www.rmv.de/linkableblob/de/33548-59802/data/AirLiner_Direktbus_Darmstadt_Frankfurt_Flughafen_PDF.pdf[/URL]
It goes once or twice a HR. E8-9 each way. It will drop you off at Darmsdadt main train station where you can get a cab to Shark. Or you can use google map to walk to shark from there. It is about 30 min walk.
I liked Monday more than other nights as it was easier to keep an eye on all the girls, of whom there must have been about 50, with a similar number of men. Of course this meant that quite a few girls were not there.
I tried Patricia, blonde curly hair, silicon, stockings, in her late 20's. I had planned on 30 minutes but right from the start I realised that this was a bright girl, who also knew how to do her job well. Two hours later I emerged from the room: the time had as they say flown by. She is definitely not PSE style. The second she was free after me she was again off with a customer: she is very popular.
She walks to and from the room holding hands which is a nice touch, which in my experience, 95% corresponds to a good session.
Thanks to the isg member who said she would suit me. She is not part of the restricted service for 30 minutes group
I tried to get Roxana again but she was again fully busy.
I had a huge number of hours with Betty and rarely found anyone who combines GFE and PSE so well. Absolutely brilliantly sparkly and just gets better and better. Totally natural. I can't say how she is with others: reports vary so I guess it is a case of YMMV. She herself says so.
Holds hands to and from the room, so, according to my own rule, she is a good session. Query that rule
She is one of the 30 minute restricted service girls so in theory cannot be recommended.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2015171]I liked Monday more than other nights as it was easier to keep an eye on all the girls, of whom there must have been about 50, with a similar number of men. Of course this meant that quite a few girls were not there.
I tried Patricia, blonde curly hair, silicon, stockings, in her late 20's. I had planned on 30 minutes but right from the start I realised that this was a bright girl, who also knew how to do her job well. Two hours later I emerged from the room: the time had as they say flown by. She is definitely not PSE style. The second she was free after me she was again off with a customer: she is very popular.
Thanks to the isg member who said she would suit me.
I tried to get Roxana again but she was again fully busy.[/QUOTE]Patricia now silicon, with little voice, is a real GFE. I often saw her not busy, but she worth to try. Nice girl. For her and Roxana, not sure silicon give better business.
Kirk-Lazarus. I agree wholeheartedly everything you wrote about Florentina, she's a quite splendid girl and a credit to both herself and this profession. Quite by chance on Saturday evening I found myself sat next to her at the bar and struck up a conversation which eventually led to us having an amazing 30 minute session where Florentina played a full part.
I was back at the club again on Sunday lunchtime 12.30 pm through to 4. 30 pm prior to my flight to London where I was hoping to catch her for a return match, regretfully she didn't reappear within that window.
Not to worry because one of the African girls, Ella from Nairobi (with her new hairdo) proved to be a fantastic substitute and bizarrely I'd been virtually running away from Ella all weekend every time she approached.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2015171]I liked Monday more than other nights as it was easier to keep an eye on all the girls, of whom there must have been about 50, with a similar number of men. Of course this meant that quite a few girls were not there.
.[/QUOTE]How busy was the club? Decent ratio of girls and guys?
[QUOTE=Leduq;2014854]Can anyone advise on the best way to get from airport to Sharks (during the day) and then back to airport (during the night)?[/QUOTE]If cost is not a concern, then taxi or car rental is best. It will give you flexibility of when to leave.
There's also the bus -.
Bus: Airliner (8. 45 euro) + are Bus (2. 10 euro).
- get the Airliner Bus at FRA terminal 1 (bustop 14) to Darmstadt HBF. It's 8. 45 euro.
- at Darmstadt HBF, take bus at platform for bus are going to Nordbahnhof. It's 2. 10 euro.
- get off at stop 8 "Daimlerweg" and look for a car dealership with taxis around and large Sharks billboard.
[QUOTE=Pentire;2015203]Kirk-Lazarus. I agree wholeheartedly everything you wrote about Florentina, she's a quite splendid girl and a credit to both herself and this profession. Quite by chance on Saturday evening I found myself sat next to her at the bar and struck up a conversation which eventually led to us having an amazing 30 minute session where Florentina played a full part.
I was back at the club again on Sunday lunchtime 12.30 pm through to 4. 30 pm prior to my flight to London where I was hoping to catch her for a return match, regretfully she didn't reappear within that window.
Not to worry because one of the African girls, Ella from Nairobi (with her new hairdo) proved to be a fantastic substitute and bizarrely I'd been virtually running away from Ella all weekend every time she approached.[/QUOTE]Florentina was a pleasure for sure. It seemed like she enjoyed the sex, unlike girls who are negotiating and upselling.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2015171]I tried Patricia, blonde curly hair, silicon, stockings, in her late 20's. I had planned on 30 minutes but right from the start I realised that this was a bright girl, who also knew how to do her job well. Two hours later I emerged from the room: the time had as they say flown by. She is definitely not PSE style. The second she was free after me she was again off with a customer: she is very popular.
I tried to get Roxana again but she was again fully busy.[/QUOTE]Agree. I had quite a few sessions with her in 2014. Bright and interesting girl. Knows exactly how to make me happy in the room. Unfortunately, I did not get to see her for almost 2 years, and when I finally saw her again, she had been siliconized. I am thus not drawn to her anymore, just as I had given up on Roxanna, whom I used to go to Sharks only for, when she siliconized I think 2 years ago.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2015173]She is one of the 30 minute restricted service girls so in theory cannot be recommended.[/QUOTE]The first time I was with her, she did not tell me of any restrictions for 30 minutes and I got her kissing once we got into the room. It was only later that I told her I was extending the time; and of course, I extended many times again after that.
[QUOTE=KirkLazarus;2015205]...Bus: Airliner (8. 45 euro) + are Bus (2. 10 euro).- get the Airliner Bus at FRA terminal 1 (bustop 14) to Darmstadt HBF. It's 8. 45 euro.- at Darmstadt HBF, take bus at platform for bus are going to Nordbahnhof. It's 2. 10 euro.- get off at stop 8 "Daimlerweg"...[/QUOTE]It costs you only E8. 45 to get to Daimlerweg from FRA terminal 1. E8. 45 ticket includes Darmstadt inner city bus lines.
I was at Sharks for 4 days last week with a trip to Oase in between.
First, I have to retract or at least modify something I said in the Oase thread. Think I spoke too soon. Sharks did have a large number of slim tight body girls, for sure. But Oase seemed to have fewer out of shape girls, while Sharks has a good number of those which drags down its average I think. But the numbers are so big at Sharks, there are still dozens of attractive young ladies, especially on the weekends. As for service as well, a number of Sharks girls were scamming on time, providing perfunctory bored service etc. At this point, it is doubtful there is much to separate these two clubs on girls' looks and service levels, except for the slightly higher number of girls at Sharks in general.
On Tuesday, there must have been 80-90 girls. And that was the slowest day. I would not be surprised if the number went above 100 on Wednesday but business was quite slow. Not the fish market I was led to believe it would be for a Wednesday, but HB said as much a few days ago.
Friday and Saturday were more lively, with even more women and definitely more men. Also more sessions overall, which. Meant rooms were closer to being full. On Tuesday and Wednesday, it appeared nearly half the rooms were empty even during peak times. I counted 60+ girls in the list below, and there must have been two girls I did not know for everyone I spoke to or knew the name of. As at Oase, so many girls were new to the club. The turnover is impressive but somehow they manage to replace them with newer but pretty girls.
Some girls I encountered and saw in these 4 days:
Peggy skinny dark haired.
Darina. Slightly plump blonde.
Anastasia. Blonde.
Jaqui.
Dora.
Mora.
Tara.
Juliana.
Sabina platinum blonde.
Scarlet skinny brunette.
Jessica.
Ellen.
Tatiana.
Michaela.
Katarina Greek.
Chantal Russian.
Larissa.
Linda.
florentine
Bianca.
Esther.
Melani.
Sorana.
Mandy.
Patricia.
Patricia's sister, forgot her name (Evie?
Sidonia.
Catalina / Sabina ex Oase.
Selina skinny MILF look blonde.
Fiona.
Mia.
Andra.
Ramina, ex Aida Oase.
Alma.
Jellis.
Gia.
Carla.
Simona.
Naya.
Patricia, Italian ex Globe, blonde streak on dark hair, small perky tits pretty face and good English.
Magda ex Maria Oase and world.
Ivona.
Sara corina duo.
Blonde Sara ex Worms pretty face.
Rebecca tall skinny blonde.
Evita.
Romena.
Nikki.
Estrella.
Tamara.
Cosmina.
Megan.
Anja.
Iser black girl.
Emma blonde from Worms.
Mila.
Zeena or Gina.
Judith Hungary.
Natasha.
Ennis or Innes.
Perla.
Elsa.
Sylvia.
Lavinia.
Nicolette.
Ermi.
Janine.
Ami.
Tatiana: having missed her on my two prior trips, I was thrilled to finally meet, talk and session with Tatiana. She lost some weight and slimmed down. Looked prettier than ever; a year ago, she still seemed like a girl, but now she looks sure of herself, more self aware, and has grown into a very attractive young woman. Badinsweet was in attendance, and another of her ardent admirers was in the club as well, and booking schedules became a little complicated, but Tatiana swains are nothing if not civilized and we managed it and I snagged two sessions per day with her through my stay after a barren and frustrating Tuesday. Pure heaven. OK, she might not fit everyone's idea of a great session for a quick fifty, but the ones who like her seem to do so with a passion and reserve multiple sessions lasting several hours or even whole days, often flying from faraway lands exclusively for her. She doesn't get as much notoriety on these pages as Evita (who sadly gained some weight and no longer seemed like a knockout) or Cosmina or whoever else, but to my eyes, Tatiana was the most gorgeous one of all. When you brush back her hair, she has a most perfect face with a lights out smile. On Saturday night, she was wearing this black collar with some cheap frills, but lying next to me with her face nesting on her shoulder, with her soft breasts undulating, she seemed like a dead ringer for Kate Winslet wearing the heart of the Oceans necklace in the famous painting scene in Titanic, except old Kate never looked this good! Tatiana is not best choice for a cheap slam bam thank you ma'am fuck, but treat her nice and she provides the perfect GFE. Her English has improved even more, and she is highly intelligent and it is a pleasure to talk to her. She is leaving this profession soon and might never come back after a month or so, and it is quite unlikely that I will ever see her again, and hence bade her adieu with a heavy heart. Clearly, my best FKK girl ever and will badly miss her on my future trips.
Mandy: if Tatiana is the innocent looking beauty that you make tender love to, Mandy is there to satisfy your darkest desires. She is the sinful Yin to Tatiana's wholesome yang. You don't take Mandy to discuss war and peace; heck, I barely exchanged more than a couple of sentences with her although her English is relatively good. From the first moment to the last, this is fierce, fiery sex with abandon. I doubt there is "No" in her sexual vocab. She is all non stop action, doing whatever is asked and does many things you were afraid to ask. If confessing about FKK escapades would get you the strongest disapproval from your clergy man, disclosure about what you did with Mandy would guarantee you eternal damnation from the pastor. If Sodom and Gomorrah need a human face, Mandy would be a good candidate. I botched my schedule and took Mandy just once, and for that alone, I surely earned the title of a "total ass". Miraculously, she was available at quite a few times on Tuesday, and even on Wednesday. A session with Mandy is not complete without a generous tip, and in my view if this lady doesn't warrant a tip then the practice of tipping should be banned altogether.
Magda: my new find of this trip. With me on the verge of losing Tatiana due to her impending retirement, I needed a replacement and Magda did a fair imitation. Only an imitation mind you, she is still not at that level. A lovely 20 year old, formerly of World and Oase where she went by "Maria". Her face is pleasant and cute but a notch below Tatiana. Neck down, she is awesome for me with her tiny petite body, smallish perky and natural tits, perfectly proportioned legs and waist and ass. Beautiful Bonnie blue eyes. And she is eager to please her man. Every trip I add one girl to my DFK list and this time it was her. She does have a slight cigarette breath which is unfortunate, but otherwise she is pretty darned good. Very slightly toothy BJ which otherwise is quite good in fact. And always smiling. I did one session everyday with her, and spent nearly 5 hrs over 3 days and the only thing I regret is why I didn't spend more time with her. I wish I could have taken her and Tatiana together for one memorable romp, but didn't work out.
Emma: one of the two blondes recently migrating from Worms's Figanblatt. Somehow I ended up rooming with both of them. Emma was the slim pretty one, face not as good as the other Worms' girl but one of the best tight bods in the club bar none. I took this one twice, on the same day no less. Both half HR sessions however. The first one was early in the evening, while waiting for Tatiana, and the second to get over the jealousy of someone else banging Tatiana (just kidding). She probably gave me the best head of all during this trip. Very soft, wet, nary even a hint of her teeth, sloppy. I wouldn't put her BJ yet in the class of Milana (whose mouth fit my dick like Cinderella's slipper) but otherwise close. Sad part is not her skill but attitude. She has no interest in giving the BJ beyond a few minutes. No interest in cuddling, petting, etc. Would that be different in a hour session? No clue, but probably not. Her fav sex position is reverse cow girl, a bit unusual. Doesn't she like to see my face? Who knows. The second session, I took her upstairs to the red couches outside VIP room, but unfortunately it was 2 AM and quite empty, and w / o audience and fellow gladiators, those couches are as exciting as Siberia in winter for a sexcapade. And predictably I could not finish in either session with her and she didn't appeared too devastated by this outcome.
Sara: the other Figanblatt girl. I took her on my first day, which I think was also her first or second day in Sharks. Always glad to help break a near virgin club cherry, LOL. Think she said she is Dutch, and if so, she must be one of the few girls from Holland. She has an ever smiling face, one of the most pleasant girls around. Not as skinny as Emma, but still very tight bod. I thought her physical skills, mainly blow job, were good, and the sex was satisfactory. Would gladly take her for an hour, if my own stamina was up to par but I was exhausted after a long flight.
Stefani: my ideal FKK girl is petite, skinny, small and perky A to B tits with small areola, cute smiling face, and a round tight ass. Stefani, a new 20 year spinner, fits the bill on all metrics. Ties her straight hair in a pony tail. I took her upstairs to the couches on one of those nights. She is new in the club, so she agreed to partake. (BTW, similar to Oase, many girls refused to fuck on the couches, confirming my thesis that the new crop of girls are quite anti public sex in both clubs). When we went up there, 2 of the couches were occupied, and my girl seemed astonished and horrified. But kept giggling. I convinced it is no big deal, birds do it, bees do it, everyone fucks in the open, dadada. She didn't quite buy that logic but reluctantly agreed. We took the couch nearest the VIP doors. On the farthest couch, one Asian dude was merrily fucking away Sorana and Lavinia duo. On the middle one, very nearly in touching distance form us was some other dude with his girl. The Asian dude banged away doggie for ten min and was done and left. I got a brief BJ from my gal and got ready to bang her myself. The middle couch dude was unabashedly watch us, and of course we were so near each other we could have had a foursome. Stefani began riding me first. I made sure my neighbors got s good view! Then we switched to doggie. Our neighbor got a hint and doing his girl doggie. There we were, two dudes, side by side, banging their chicks doggie. We could have made a porno out of it. After ten min or so, switched to mish, and my new friend followed me to the same position. This was getting comical now. Anyways, I was so excited with all this debauchery, banged away a little too hard by my standards (normally I am so slow, I put my girls to sleep while fucking), and Stef starts getting impatient. She is really tiny, after all. Claims time is up. I pointed out to her the watch. She is not happy but doesn't say much, her English is quite feeble. My neighbor in the meanwhile gets a handjob, pops and done. We flash thumbs up to each other, and I left. Sadly couldn't finish but couldn't care less, was on cloud nine for a full hour after this.
After this great and probably the most fun session I had in my entire trip, I booked a second trip with Stefani the next day. Unfortunately, the VIP doors were locked, and we ended in one of the caves upstairs. This session was as lacking in heat as the prior one was full of it. And as usual, she tried to scam me on time, but again I firmly showed her the watch. She was not happy but stayed with it. This girl is really quite my type, but even though she is barely 20, she learned all the bad ways of more experienced WGs. Otherwise, she is a fun fuck.
Sabina: a new girl, forgot where she came from. Tallish a platinum blonde. Romanian ofc. I remember a discussion here a few days ago that dessous days hurt no one, and here is a proof to the contrary. I saw this girl, with a pretty smile and mischievous sparkle in her eyes, and went for it w / o much of discussion. She was sitting down at the bar. Unfortunately, she was bit too tall for my taste and when the bra came off, she had sagging tits. I would not have taken her on a non dessous day for sure. And her service was similarly non-descript.
Scarlet: Took her as my last session on Tuesday. Never saw her again for the rest of the week. Petite brunette with dark curls. Pretty face. She had the smallest pussy I have seen in the FKKs in a while. I am normal sized on my best day and she claims in horror that I was too big for her. Here I thought I heard everything in life but that was a first. For that compliment alone, she deserved a twenty tip, LOL. Anyway, with some difficulty I slid into her with the help of a generous dose of lube and tried our best to have a fun session. She is one of the few ones honest with her time, full 30 min and no complaints. I was quite jet lagged and could not finish, but was fun nevertheless. I would have taken her for an encore but never saw her in the remaining days of the week.
It was good to meet up with my fellow member of Tatiana fan club badinS. The dude is so well traveled and knowledgeable. And I should thank him for tipping me about Tatiana's schedule or else I might have missed her on Wednesday. Based on reports, it appears several other ISG luminaries were in attendance as well, which is a pity that we didn't get to meet up and have a forum pow wow, LOL. I missed seeing some old favorite girls such as Roxana, Milana, Liz, Sandra, etc. Janine was in but I saw her only briefly on Wednesday and Friday, and for once she was w / o her beau bodyguard dude, but before I could grab her she was gone. Still looked as good as ever, which is good because several other girls seem to age a decade in the span of two years. (Idle gossip alert) I also didn't see the young Turk. Some girl said he was not seen in three months; first time I was in Sharks when he was not. Sharks food continues to be pretty decent, but the remodeling meant locker sizes were halved, which sucked. Garden looked nice and was able to spend some time in there on the weekend afternoon. They keep adding new rooms but nothing as good as the mirror room.
[QUOTE=Pentire;2014803]three out of my Friday four were seeking a 100.00 before they would consider DFK, that is disappointing. One of them claimed it was now Club policy.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sirioja;2014889]Seem Sharks and Oase run now same way: 50 are only for Turkish suck and fuck.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=FunExplorer;2014887]I endorse your views. We must resist move to exclude DFK by girls for Euro 50, though not all girls do that. But their tribe is increasing and I feel so in the last six months. As you rightly put it starting from Palace. Quite a few girls in Palace say that she is not a Euro 50 girl. And that's spreading.[/QUOTE]As one of our senior members once said before, "Oase is the now Palace".
It seems now, Sharks is the new Palace / Oase.
The "DFK 100 virus" has spread out from Palace to Oase, and now to Sharks.
It is such a shame, because Sharks WAS my favorite club. I even bought their VIP card.
But now, I have no choice but to switch my favorite club elsewhere.
I missed the mature blonde staff member most. LOL.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2014949]LOL. The tall skinny one? Can't rmb her exact hair colour but I would session her, hehe.[/QUOTE]It seems that you folks are talking about another younger blonde staff member who worked at the reception only.
My fantasy is the older blonde staff member, who worked between the reception (giving guests robes and sandals) and the laundry room (take used towels in and bring fresh ones out).
Her wrinkles are so obvious that I guess most of you folks won't fantasize her. Haha.
But the fact is, I want her more than any other working women in the club. LOL.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2015228]Based on reports, it appears several other ISG luminaries were in attendance as well, which is a pity that we didn't get to meet up and have a forum pow wow, LOL.[/QUOTE]Same thing happened to me several times.
When I post a report of my sharks visit, I got PM or replies that indicated some ISG senior members were there as well.
To put it more positively, every ISG member is too focused on the women than the men, I suppose. That's why we can only find one another after we leave the club. LOL.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2014916]Bearing in mind this is the ISG, the more appropriate and enthralling Denise Richards film to recommend is 'Wild Things' where there are close ups of her nude, and she also has a threesome with Neve Campbell. See attachment.[/QUOTE]The version of Wild Things I saw was a bit tame (possibly censored) with not enough nudity. In the pic whose tits are we seeing? Sex scene double? I mean Denise has implants I believe, based on the shape in most pics, although obviously harder to tell with a bra on.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2015228]I was at Sharks for 4 days last week with a trip to Oase in between.
First, I have to retract or at least modify something I said in the Oase thread. Think I spoke too soon. Sharks did have a large number of slim tight body girls, for sure. But Oase seemed to have fewer out of shape girls, while Sharks has a good number of those which drags down its average I think. But the numbers are so big at Sharks, there are still dozens of attractive young ladies, especially on the weekends. As for service as well, a number of Sharks girls were scamming on time, providing perfunctory bored service etc. At this point, it is doubtful there is much to separate these two clubs on girls' looks and service levels, except for the slightly higher number of girls at Sharks in general.
On Tuesday, there must have been 80-90 girls. And that was the slowest day. I would not be surprised if the number went above 100 on Wednesday but business was quite slow. Not the fish market I was led to believe it would be for a Wednesday, but HB said as much a few days ago.
Friday and Saturday were more lively, with even more women and definitely more men. Also more sessions overall, which. Meant rooms were closer to being full. On Tuesday and Wednesday, it appeared nearly half the rooms were empty even during peak times. I counted 60+ girls in the list below, and there must have been two girls I did not know for everyone I spoke to or knew the name of. As at Oase, so many girls were new to the club. [/QUOTE]Thanks for this complete report!
One question: Judith from Hungary? How is she? Brown with blue eyes? 32 years old? Is she the same who worked at Oase 3 years ago?
Jnp,
I'm surprised about your Mandy writing, for me a real sweet GFE behavior who just wants to please You. Fluent kissing and foreplay with DATY without any extra asked for lovely Mandy. No hardcore sex, but it's not my game with girls. Aylice. Bu could be more hard sex for me, even also a great GF.
A cute GND on a low casting Friday, even number was there. But I don't regret my hour with Mandy, with no tip. I'm not US.
Tatiana is also a cute GND for me, never been attracted, I need more woman type sophisticated look.
Even seem to become, no girl didn t try to sell me Audi options list with rates on my last February visit, but a new girl at Oase, I know from NRW, told me "patron" said to her: 50 € is only for suck and fuck, like animals, kissing and foreplay are extra.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2015288]The version of Wild Things I saw was a bit tame (possibly censored) with not enough nudity. In the pic whose tits are we seeing? Sex scene double? I mean Denise has implants I believe, based on the shape in most pics, although obviously harder to tell with a bra on.[/QUOTE]My VCD of this movie contained quite a bit of nudity. Tits in that picture are those of Denise Richards. (No nudity from Neve Campbell.) Another still from the movie attached below. Does not look like a body double, and there was not much CGI during that era.
By the way, the square jawline of Neve Campbell reminds me of Squeezebox, whom I dearly miss. So does that of Ygritte in Game of Thrones.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2015228]Magda ex Maria Oase and world. A lovely 20 year old, formerly of World and Oase where she went by "Maria". Her face is pleasant and cute but a notch below Tatiana. Neck down, she is awesome for me with her tiny petite body, smallish perky and natural tits, perfectly proportioned legs and waist and ass. Beautiful Bonnie blue eyes. And she is eager to please her man. Every trip I add one girl to my DFK list and this time it was her. She does have a slight cigarette breath which is unfortunate, but otherwise she is pretty darned good. Very slightly toothy BJ which otherwise is quite good in fact. And always smiling. [/QUOTE]Is this the 'Maria Kinski' as named by Syzygies? She was one of my top favorites, but I could not find her again after my last session with her in Oase last summer and in Colosseum in winter 2015. That Maria is about 1.70 m, has a sharp canine in her upper right jaw, and seems to fit your description very well; except that she was already 19 years old during my first session with her in World in early 2014, and she did not smoke. It would be great if I can find her again.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2015228]I was at Sharks for 4 days last week with a trip to Oase in between.
First, I have to retract or at least modify something I said in the Oase thread. Think I spoke too soon. Sharks did have a large number of slim tight body girls, for sure. But Oase seemed to have fewer out of shape girls, while Sharks has a good number of those which drags down its average I think. But the numbers are so big at Sharks, there are still dozens of attractive young ladies, especially on the weekends. As for service as well, a number of Sharks girls were scamming on time, providing perfunctory bored service etc. At this point, it is doubtful there is much to separate these two clubs on girls' looks and service levels, except for the slightly higher number of girls at Sharks in general.
On Tuesday, there must have been 80-90 girls. And that was the slowest day. I would not be surprised if the number went above 100 on Wednesday but business was quite slow. Not the fish market I was led to believe it would be for a Wednesday, but HB said as much a few days ago.
Friday and Saturday were more lively, with even more women and definitely more men. Also more sessions overall, which. Meant rooms were closer to being full. On Tuesday and Wednesday, it appeared nearly half the rooms were empty even during peak times. I counted 60+ girls in the list below, and there must have been two girls I did not know for everyone I spoke to or knew the name of. As at Oase, so many girls were new to the club. The turnover is impressive but somehow they manage to replace them with newer but pretty girls.
Some girls I encountered and saw in these 4 days:
Peggy skinny dark haired.
Darina. Slightly plump blonde.
Anastasia. Blonde.
Jaqui.
Dora.
Mora.
Tara.
Juliana.
Sabina platinum blonde.
Scarlet skinny brunette.
Jessica.
Ellen.
Tatiana.
Michaela.
Katarina Greek.
Chantal Russian.
Larissa.
Linda.
florentine
Bianca.
Esther.
Melani.
Sorana.
Mandy.
Patricia.
Patricia's sister, forgot her name (Evie?
Sidonia.
Catalina / Sabina ex Oase.
Selina skinny MILF look blonde.
Fiona.
Mia.
Andra.
Ramina, ex Aida Oase.
Alma.
Jellis.
Gia.
Carla.
Simona.
Naya.
Patricia, Italian ex Globe, blonde streak on dark hair, small perky tits pretty face and good English.
Magda ex Maria Oase and world.
Ivona.
Sara corina duo.
Blonde Sara ex Worms pretty face.
Rebecca tall skinny blonde.
Evita.
Romena.
Nikki.
Estrella.
Tamara.
Cosmina.
Megan.
Anja.
Iser black girl.
Emma blonde from Worms.
Mila.
Zeena or Gina.
Judith Hungary.
Natasha.
Ennis or Innes.
Perla.
Elsa.
Sylvia.
Lavinia.
Nicolette.
Ermi.
Janine.
Ami.
Tatiana: having missed her on my two prior trips, I was thrilled to finally meet, talk and session with Tatiana. She lost some weight and slimmed down. Looked prettier than ever; a year ago, she still seemed like a girl, but now she looks sure of herself, more self aware, and has grown into a very attractive young woman. Badinsweet was in attendance, and another of her ardent admirers was in the club as well, and booking schedules became a little complicated, but Tatiana swains are nothing if not civilized and we managed it and I snagged two sessions per day with her through my stay after a barren and frustrating Tuesday. Pure heaven. OK, she might not fit everyone's idea of a great session for a quick fifty, but the ones who like her seem to do so with a passion and reserve multiple sessions lasting several hours or even whole days, often flying from faraway lands exclusively for her. She doesn't get as much notoriety on these pages as Evita (who sadly gained some weight and no longer seemed like a knockout) or Cosmina or whoever else, but to my eyes, Tatiana was the most gorgeous one of all. When you brush back her hair, she has a most perfect face with a lights out smile. On Saturday night, she was wearing this black collar with some cheap frills, but lying next to me with her face nesting on her shoulder, with her soft breasts undulating, she seemed like a dead ringer for Kate Winslet wearing the heart of the Oceans necklace in the famous painting scene in Titanic, except old Kate never looked this good! Tatiana is not best choice for a cheap slam bam thank you ma'am fuck, but treat her nice and she provides the perfect GFE. Her English has improved even more, and she is highly intelligent and it is a pleasure to talk to her. She is leaving this profession soon and might never come back after a month or so, and it is quite unlikely that I will ever see her again, and hence bade her adieu with a heavy heart. Clearly, my best FKK girl ever and will badly miss her on my future trips.
Mandy: if Tatiana is the innocent looking beauty that you make tender love to, Mandy is there to satisfy your darkest desires. She is the sinful Yin to Tatiana's wholesome yang. You don't take Mandy to discuss war and peace; heck, I barely exchanged more than a couple of sentences with her although her English is relatively good. From the first moment to the last, this is fierce, fiery sex with abandon. I doubt there is "No" in her sexual vocab. She is all non stop action, doing whatever is asked and does many things you were afraid to ask. If confessing about FKK escapades would get you the strongest disapproval from your clergy man, disclosure about what you did with Mandy would guarantee you eternal damnation from the pastor. If Sodom and Gomorrah need a human face, Mandy would be a good candidate. I botched my schedule and took Mandy just once, and for that alone, I surely earned the title of a "total ass". Miraculously, she was available at quite a few times on Tuesday, and even on Wednesday. A session with Mandy is not complete without a generous tip, and in my view if this lady doesn't warrant a tip then the practice of tipping should be banned altogether.
Magda: my new find of this trip. With me on the verge of losing Tatiana due to her impending retirement, I needed a replacement and Magda did a fair imitation. Only an imitation mind you, she is still not at that level. A lovely 20 year old, formerly of World and Oase where she went by "Maria". Her face is pleasant and cute but a notch below Tatiana. Neck down, she is awesome for me with her tiny petite body, smallish perky and natural tits, perfectly proportioned legs and waist and ass. Beautiful Bonnie blue eyes. And she is eager to please her man. Every trip I add one girl to my DFK list and this time it was her. She does have a slight cigarette breath which is unfortunate, but otherwise she is pretty darned good. Very slightly toothy BJ which otherwise is quite good in fact. And always smiling. I did one session everyday with her, and spent nearly 5 hrs over 3 days and the only thing I regret is why I didn't spend more time with her. I wish I could have taken her and Tatiana together for one memorable romp, but didn't work out.
Emma: one of the two blondes recently migrating from Worms's Figanblatt. Somehow I ended up rooming with both of them. Emma was the slim pretty one, face not as good as the other Worms' girl but one of the best tight bods in the club bar none. I took this one twice, on the same day no less. Both half HR sessions however. The first one was early in the evening, while waiting for Tatiana, and the second to get over the jealousy of someone else banging Tatiana (just kidding). She probably gave me the best head of all during this trip. Very soft, wet, nary even a hint of her teeth, sloppy. I wouldn't put her BJ yet in the class of Milana (whose mouth fit my dick like Cinderella's slipper) but otherwise close. Sad part is not her skill but attitude. She has no interest in giving the BJ beyond a few minutes. No interest in cuddling, petting, etc. Would that be different in a hour session? No clue, but probably not. Her fav sex position is reverse cow girl, a bit unusual. Doesn't she like to see my face? Who knows. The second session, I took her upstairs to the red couches outside VIP room, but unfortunately it was 2 AM and quite empty, and w / o audience and fellow gladiators, those couches are as exciting as Siberia in winter for a sexcapade. And predictably I could not finish in either session with her and she didn't appeared too devastated by this outcome.
Sara: the other Figanblatt girl. I took her on my first day, which I think was also her first or second day in Sharks. Always glad to help break a near virgin club cherry, LOL. Think she said she is Dutch, and if so, she must be one of the few girls from Holland. She has an ever smiling face, one of the most pleasant girls around. Not as skinny as Emma, but still very tight bod. I thought her physical skills, mainly blow job, were good, and the sex was satisfactory. Would gladly take her for an hour, if my own stamina was up to par but I was exhausted after a long flight.
Stefani: my ideal FKK girl is petite, skinny, small and perky A to B tits with small areola, cute smiling face, and a round tight ass. Stefani, a new 20 year spinner, fits the bill on all metrics. Ties her straight hair in a pony tail. I took her upstairs to the couches on one of those nights. She is new in the club, so she agreed to partake. (BTW, similar to Oase, many girls refused to fuck on the couches, confirming my thesis that the new crop of girls are quite anti public sex in both clubs). When we went up there, 2 of the couches were occupied, and my girl seemed astonished and horrified. But kept giggling. I convinced it is no big deal, birds do it, bees do it, everyone fucks in the open, dadada. She didn't quite buy that logic but reluctantly agreed. We took the couch nearest the VIP doors. On the farthest couch, one Asian dude was merrily fucking away Sorana and Lavinia duo. On the middle one, very nearly in touching distance form us was some other dude with his girl. The Asian dude banged away doggie for ten min and was done and left. I got a brief BJ from my gal and got ready to bang her myself. The middle couch dude was unabashedly watch us, and of course we were so near each other we could have had a foursome. Stefani began riding me first. I made sure my neighbors got s good view! Then we switched to doggie. Our neighbor got a hint and doing his girl doggie. There we were, two dudes, side by side, banging their chicks doggie. We could have made a porno out of it. After ten min or so, switched to mish, and my new friend followed me to the same position. This was getting comical now. Anyways, I was so excited with all this debauchery, banged away a little too hard by my standards (normally I am so slow, I put my girls to sleep while fucking), and Stef starts getting impatient. She is really tiny, after all. Claims time is up. I pointed out to her the watch. She is not happy but doesn't say much, her English is quite feeble. My neighbor in the meanwhile gets a handjob, pops and done. We flash thumbs up to each other, and I left. Sadly couldn't finish but couldn't care less, was on cloud nine for a full hour after this.
After this great and probably the most fun session I had in my entire trip, I booked a second trip with Stefani the next day. Unfortunately, the VIP doors were locked, and we ended in one of the caves upstairs. This session was as lacking in heat as the prior one was full of it. And as usual, she tried to scam me on time, but again I firmly showed her the watch. She was not happy but stayed with it. This girl is really quite my type, but even though she is barely 20, she learned all the bad ways of more experienced WGs. Otherwise, she is a fun fuck.
Sabina: a new girl, forgot where she came from. Tallish a platinum blonde. Romanian ofc. I remember a discussion here a few days ago that dessous days hurt no one, and here is a proof to the contrary. I saw this girl, with a pretty smile and mischievous sparkle in her eyes, and went for it w / o much of discussion. She was sitting down at the bar. Unfortunately, she was bit too tall for my taste and when the bra came off, she had sagging tits. I would not have taken her on a non dessous day for sure. And her service was similarly non-descript.
Scarlet: Took her as my last session on Tuesday. Never saw her again for the rest of the week. Petite brunette with dark curls. Pretty face. She had the smallest pussy I have seen in the FKKs in a while. I am normal sized on my best day and she claims in horror that I was too big for her. Here I thought I heard everything in life but that was a first. For that compliment alone, she deserved a twenty tip, LOL. Anyway, with some difficulty I slid into her with the help of a generous dose of lube and tried our best to have a fun session. She is one of the few ones honest with her time, full 30 min and no complaints. I was quite jet lagged and could not finish, but was fun nevertheless. I would have taken her for an encore but never saw her in the remaining days of the week.
It was good to meet up with my fellow member of Tatiana fan club badinS. The dude is so well traveled and knowledgeable. And I should thank him for tipping me about Tatiana's schedule or else I might have missed her on Wednesday. Based on reports, it appears several other ISG luminaries were in attendance as well, which is a pity that we didn't get to meet up and have a forum pow wow, LOL. I missed seeing some old favorite girls such as Roxana, Milana, Liz, Sandra, etc. Janine was in but I saw her only briefly on Wednesday and Friday, and for once she was w / o her beau bodyguard dude, but before I could grab her she was gone. Still looked as good as ever, which is good because several other girls seem to age a decade in the span of two years. (Idle gossip alert) I also didn't see the young Turk. Some girl said he was not seen in three months; first time I was in Sharks when he was not. Sharks food continues to be pretty decent, but the remodeling meant locker sizes were halved, which sucked. Garden looked nice and was able to spend some time in there on the weekend afternoon. They keep adding new rooms but nothing as good as the mirror room.[/QUOTE]Many girls are younger than before and just want to earn as much money and switch to a normal job, that is why they are refusing publich sex which is quite a positive sign at least for me, they are not stupid and they also have some moral rules.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2015228]Emma: one of the two blondes recently migrating from Worms's Figanblatt. [/QUOTE]The german name of the club in Worms is "Feigenblatt" (leave of a fig tree).
This was my first time visiting Sharks, and second time visiting an FKK. I thought the food was good, but I didn't like the smokey / non-private facilities. There wasn't a good place to rest for a few hours without being bothered too much. Made it difficult to recharge. I arrived around 330 pm yesterday (Monday).
Monica. One of the first girls to approach me was Monica from Romania, 26. She told me she's only been at Frankfurt / Sharks for a week. She's short, has a curvy body with nice big natural tits. She sat with me for a long while, kissed me, but I still wanted to see what else was there. I walked around and there weren't that many attractive petite women with large breasts. I ended up going back to Monica. I stayed for two pops because the first one, I could tell would be done quickly. She blew me and I finished outside her mouth. Did cowgirl, doggy, missionary. 100 e.
Mandy. After I got done cleaning up, I was coming out of the shower and saw Mandy coming in in her normal clothes. I knew immediately I wanted to have her. I've read on here some guys saying she is not that pretty, but for me. She is exactly what I wanted, and in my opinion she was the cutest girl at the club. After my shower I waited a couple of hours. Girls kept coming up to me trying to get me to go the room with them. Some of them were downright hideous. Like below a 5 on a scale of 10. I flirted with them and told them I was waiting to recharge. Some of them were attractive but I really was recharging, and also waiting for Mandy.
I approached Mandy at the bar and she said that she was German, 24-26 years old. Within a couple minutes she said let's go to a room. We went upstairs (not the cave rooms) and got down to business quickly. We laid on the bed and she started kissing, a lot. We kissed for a long time while I felt her body and she stroked me. I got the thought that maybe she was trying to extend the session by kissing for so long, but at this point I didn't care because I was willing to stay for longer. Her body looked really amazing. Her ass was round and firm, everything was very tight.
Soon she started the blowjob, and it was honestly the best I've ever had. She used a variety of techniques, sucked my balls a lot, almost rimming. Watching her ass and pussy in the mirror while she was bent over blowing me was really an awesome sight. She seemed very passionate the entire time, and genuinely seemed into it / me. We switched to fucking. Cowgirl, missionary, doggy, blew me, then back to cowgirl, where I finished. Every view, every angle was amazing. She performed excellently the entire time, seeming really enthusiastic and into it, like she really loved it.
It was difficult for me to finish, shockingly to me, because she was so great. I've mongered in other places but never had such easy, cheap access to so many beautiful women and I guess I'm learning my appetite. Back to Mandy. I would say at this point that she's my favorite all time girl. I've paid $400+ for GFE in the US that wasn't as good.
When the session was complete, the time was over by 10 minutes or so. I asked her how much I owed and she told me that 50 e was fine. I gave her a 20 e tip, and looking back, would probably give her more.
Stefani. After Mandy, I thought I was done but I waited around for a couple more hours and tried to relax, and eat. One of the girls that came up to me was Stefani. At first I thought she was half Thai or something, but she says she is 100% Italian. Stefani is a very pretty girl 20 year old girl with a slender, petite, not very curvy body. Small natural breasts. While I was relaxing she sat on my lap and played with my dick for a while. I wasn't ready though. She left disappointed that I wouldn't go with her. An hour later, I went with her up to the cave rooms. I had almost nothing left to give her. I could go at it in each position for a few minutes before running out of energy / getting too soft. I'm young and in decent shape BTW. Just drained.
After going through cowgirl, missionary, doggy, Stefani went to blow me, doing a pretty good job throughout. We were getting close to the 30 minute mark. I asked her to get back on top and she seemed confused, thinking I wouldn't finish as easily. But within a couple minutes with her on top, I finished in the condom.
Stefani was very timid and shy, but very pretty. I'd like to repeat with her when I'm in top form.
I left shortly afterwards.
Overall, if I come back to Frankfurt, I will go to both Oase and Sharks, and maybe try some of the other FKKs. I would plan for a shorter stay with 2 or 3 one pop sessions at Sharks, because for me, it's too difficult to relax. I will definitely come back to Sharks to see if Mandy is available. If I lived near Frankfurt, I think I'd be going to see her once a week.
What day is sharks dessous day?
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2015336]Is this the 'Maria Kinski' as named by Syzygies? ......That Maria is about 1.70 m, has a sharp canine in her upper right jaw,....[/QUOTE]Most likely not. Magda is petite, not more than 155-160 cm at best. Don't remember that she had any sharp tooth either.
Also, Magda has been in business for less than a year and half. Started at a world in late 2015 she said, as I remember.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2015403]Most likely not. Magda is petite, not more than 155-160 cm at best. Don't remember that she had any sharp tooth either.
Also, Magda has been in business for less than a year and half. Started at a world in late 2015 she said, as I remember.[/QUOTE]She also has a roundish face compared to other Romanian girls at Sharks.
Hitherto I've only ever attended Sharks on three days of the week Fri, Sat and Sunday when the girls are completely naked except for towering high heel footwear, although some are wearing lingerie nothing wrong with that.
I was wondering whether there are any set days when the female entrepreneurs are able to dress up in an element of street clothes to risqué fashion?
For instance tight jeans but otherwise topless?
[QUOTE=Pentire;2015422]Hitherto I've only ever attended Sharks on three days of the week Fri, Sat and Sunday when the girls are completely naked except for towering high heel footwear, although some are wearing lingerie nothing wrong with that.
I was wondering whether there are any set days when the female entrepreneurs are able to dress up in an element of street clothes to risqu fashion?
For instance tight jeans but otherwise topless?[/QUOTE]Sorry but where are you from? Just check the meaning of FKK?
[QUOTE=Breadman;2015401]What day is sharks dessous day?[/QUOTE]Don't know why it's not more easily found on the web site, but I believe it is Tueday.
[QUOTE=Myrmidon;2015434]Don't know why it's not more easily found on the web site, but I believe it is Tueday.[/QUOTE]Yep Sharks lingerie day is on Tuesday.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2015403]Most likely not. Magda is petite, not more than 155-160 cm at best. Don't remember that she had any sharp tooth either.
Also, Magda has been in business for less than a year and half. Started at a world in late 2015 she said, as I remember.[/QUOTE]There was a Maria at World in 2016.
Monday and Tuesdays are by far my favourite days. The weekends combine overcrowding with a nonParty atmosphere Today was the quietest day of my trip. Taking advantage of the 20 euro discount card given me on Monday. The club outside the weekend is much more relaxed with more opportunity for repeat interaction with the girls. There was enough space to be able to study the girls at leisure, and for them to study you. There were more than enough girls with superb slim figures for any man.
I couldn't resist having a brief chat with the German speaking Barbie: I have no idea of her service but she has a figure to die for, or at least, she carries herself with style. I told her I wasn't going to a room with her, but she reacted pleasantly and with grace. So, maybe next time.
I was standing next to an East Asian man from USA. A girl came to him and told him the price for 30 minutes and then waxed lyrical on the virtues of an hour. The poor man was total sharkbait and bought an hour. It took the girl about 30 seconds to close the deal. No wonder the girls are tempted when there are such vulnerable customers (I don't forget that I am occasionally vulnerable to, and fall for, scams).
Oh, nearly forgot. Spent some time with Betty, just for a change. She rushed to makeup (not taking her usual hour)as she knew I was waiting and short of time but surplus on money, and she looked great in only half warpaint. Lots of dfk, hugs, and fun sex, including extras. No political philosophy though. Delights in simple pleasures of life and bringing a smile to the day.
Pentire. No tight jeans or shorts today, just conventional underwear.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2015565] Taking advantage of the 20 euro discount card given me on Monday..[/QUOTE]If you use a Sharks vip pass do you still get the 20 euro voucher? The website states that the 20 euro discount card can't be used until the folowing Monday, did you have to wait a week to use the discount? Also says that you can't use the 20 euro discount combined with other promotions like their 50 euro wednesday entrance or their 15 euro's off sunday's entrance. So its really only good if you don't want to buy another vip 5 pass card.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2015566]Pentire. No tight jeans or shorts today, just conventional underwear.[/QUOTE]The girls wear those outfits for free when they go out normally.
For special lingerie days in the club the girls tend to wear something that they pick up from the open air market for 2. 99€ a piece.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2015574]If you use a Sharks vip pass do you still get the 20 euro voucher? The website states that the 20 euro discount card can't be used until the folowing Monday, did you have to wait a week to use the discount? Also says that you can't use the 20 euro discount combined with other promotions like their 50 euro wednesday entrance or their 15 euro's off sunday's entrance. So its really only good if you don't want to buy another vip 5 pass card.[/QUOTE]The website contradicts what the voucher itself says, so I used the voucher the next day and it was accepted. I don't have a vip pass but I guess it can't be used with the 20 euro voucher.
Where on the website does it say about VIP card. I can't find it.How much is it?
[QUOTE=Optimist;2015580]Whete on the wrbsite does it say about VIP card. I can't find it.How much is it?[/QUOTE]It disappears on their website.
But, last month I was there, a VIP card sample was put on the desk at the reception, which meant it was still available.
It was a "buy 5 and get 6" card; namely, you prepay 325 Euros (5 times 65), and then use the card for 6 entries.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2015580]Where on the website does it say about VIP card. I can't find it.How much is it?[/QUOTE]The VIP card costs 950 euro, for 20 entries.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2015580]Where on the website does it say about VIP card. I can't find it.How much is it?[/QUOTE]Optimist, you prepay for 5 entries at the normal price of 65 each totaling 325 and you receive 6 entries card that is punched each time it is used.
Some men keep the card with them and some keep the prepaid card at the club which is filed under a number you remember.
If I recall correct, the advert for this is a sample of the prepaid card that is taped to the Reception desk.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2015593]Optimist, you prepay for 5 entries at the normal price of 65 each totaling 325 and you receive 6 entries card that is punched each time it is used.
Some men keep the card with them and some keep the prepaid card at the club which is filed under a number you remember.
If I recall correct, the advert for this is a sample of the prepaid card that is taped to the Reception desk.[/QUOTE]I had bought this on a previous trip and still had 2 visits remaining which I used up last week. First use was on Tuesday. I visited again on Wednesday but paid the 50 instead, because even 325/6 comes to more than 50. I used the last remaining on Friday and paid 65 cash on Saturday. A good deal, as normally it would cost 6 x65 =390.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2015574]The website states that the 20 euro discount card can't be used until the folowing Monday, did you have to wait a week to use the discount? [/QUOTE]It's been a while. To get the voucher, I had to pay the full price entry of 65 EUR on a Monday. They gave me the 20 EUR off voucher, but they didn't take the effort to write a date on it. The voucher itself says you can redeem on either Monday or Tuesday. So the website has contradicted the voucher for at least a year.
Siri: I guess it depends on each man, perhaps. With me, it is how she goes about the business vs what other girls do. Many girls just lay there, wait for me take the lead or dictate what I want, and almost do just those things as if they are chores. Mandy is never quiet, just seems to attack me, constantly doing things which are asked and unasked. It is the energy, the enthusiasm, absolute disregard for getting paid for extras (what might be extras with other girls) etc. I don't know that I used the word hardcore, because I don't do any anal and other such things ever. Yes, Aylice also had a lot of energy, but Aylice was a young lady, almost a girl, and more tender; while Mandy seems more mature, aggressive. Sweet no doubt, but this is more aggressive sex, driven entirely by her. With Aylice, I used to take sessions lasting several hours. I can't seem to last more than an hour with Mandy!
As someone said (where she didn't want extra money if the session went over by ten min), she is not that mindful of extracting every dime out of you. This lady is all about service and pleasing her man.
GND Tatiana: Oh Siri, you must have been lucky growing up. All I can say, I never had such a pretty girl living next door to me. LOL.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2015309]Jnp,
I'm surprised about your Mandy writing, for me a real sweet GFE behavior who just wants to please You. Fluent kissing and foreplay with DATY without any extra asked for lovely Mandy. No hardcore sex, but it's not my game with girls. Aylice. Bu could be more hard sex for me, even also a great GF.
A cute GND on a low casting Friday, even number was there. But I don't regret my hour with Mandy, with no tip. I'm not US.
Tatiana is also a cute GND for me, never been attracted, I need more woman type sophisticated look.
Even seem to become, no girl didn t try to sell me Audi options list with rates on my last February visit, but a new girl at Oase, I know from NRW, told me "patron" said to her: 50 is only for suck and fuck, like animals, kissing and foreplay are extra.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Optimist;2015566]Pentire. No tight jeans or shorts today, just conventional underwear.[/QUOTE]Thank you Optimist appreciate your response.
Something I noticed this past weekend on the three consecutive days I attended Sharks is how some of the girls; particularly a Czech beauty with short blonde & immaculately coiffured hair would almost exclusively be targeting gentlemen of Oriental extraction, her discrimination was very apparent.
I did speak to this beauty briefly before realising (rightly or wrongly) my business would be better appreciated by others.
Are these guys from the Far East paying premium rates or is there another attraction?
[QUOTE=Pentire;2015606]Thank you Optimist appreciate your response.
Something I noticed this past weekend on the three consecutive days I attended Sharks is how some of the girls; particularly a Czech beauty with short blonde & immaculately coiffured hair would almost exclusively be targeting gentlemen of Oriental extraction, her discrimination was very apparent.
I did speak to this beauty briefly before realising (rightly or wrongly) my business would be better appreciated by others.
Are these guys from the Far East paying premium rates or is there another attraction?[/QUOTE]Do you remember her name? I can't remember if she said Mandy or Nikki (she told me both on separate occassions).
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2015605]Siri: I guess it depends on each man, perhaps. With me, it is how she goes about the business vs what other girls do. Many girls just lay there, wait for me take the lead or dictate what I want, and almost do just those things as if they are chores. Mandy is never quiet, just seems to attack me, constantly doing things which are asked and unasked. It is the energy, the enthusiasm, absolute disregard for getting paid for extras (what might be extras with other girls) etc. I don't know that I used the word hardcore, because I don't do any anal and other such things ever. Yes, Aylice also had a lot of energy, but Aylice was a young lady, almost a girl, and more tender; while Mandy seems more mature, aggressive. Sweet no doubt, but this is more aggressive sex, driven entirely by her. With Aylice, I used to take sessions lasting several hours. I can't seem to last more than an hour with Mandy!
As someone said (where she didn't want extra money if the session went over by ten min), she is not that mindful of extracting every dime out of you. This lady is all about service and pleasing her man.
GND Tatiana: Oh Siri, you must have been lucky growing up. All I can say, I never had such a pretty girl living next door to me. LOL.[/QUOTE]I agree Mandy is active with energy, and generous, she wants to please us, but in GFE way, not as a pornstar for my room. Quite similar to Aylice for my experiences, small Aylice was really sporty in room with me, even also very sweet. No upselling with Mandy.
Sharks staff should ask Mandy, Sandra, or Marina. Lat, to teach sexual skill and ethic about upselling, to many girls.
Same at Oase, they should ask Ina. Lat to come back for a week to teach her level and honesty to little girls.
Tatiana seems friendly and sweet, but we won't fight for her. Not woman type enough for me.
[QUOTE=KirkLazarus;2015610]Do you remember her name? I can't remember if she said Mandy or Nikki (she told me both on separate occassions).[/QUOTE]I don't think I bothered to ask her, although we did briefly chat about the Czech Rep (which I've travelled extensively) and that she was from Brno.
Incidentally KL, I just read your report on the session you had with her. It confirms my thoughts after our brief chat in which despite her smoking hot body, I was correct in choosing others.
Thank you for that.
Pentire, one girl told me she likes Far Eastern guys because they have small dicks and cum fast and are polite, even ridiculously so. She doesn't charge them more than the going rate although some girls try. Another girl says she hates their rudeness. Both girls says they hate customers who are overmuscled, young, or Turkish ethnicity. So, no definitive answer, just girl opinions and strategies.
I was at Sharks earlier today. It was a slow day for the girls that I felt so bad for them. There were more girls in the club than guys at any given point during the night (or at least while I was in the lounge floor). It was a dress day so girls were all wearing lingerie.
[B]Tatiana[/B] - Jnpr30, since you were not here, I had to copy your move and be her first and last customer :) I was actually her only customer today! It was that slow. She was wearing this black one-piece lingerie, pushing up her gorgeous boobs with nice cleavage, almost G-string / bikini type exposing her nice butt, WOW! You are missing out dude. I was with her from 7-9 pm and made appointment with her later from 2-4 am. Is it that obvious that she is one of my favorites? Because someone was asking her what she was doing at around 2 am and she said she was waiting for her customer. The guy immediately replied, "oh, BadinSweet?" I won't compete with Jnpr30's writing but I had a great time with her, as usual. She is smart, funny, and great in the room, if you treat her well. She will leave the end of this week for Easter and school. It maybe a while before she come back again. So, if you like her or have never been with her before, you need to grab her now, before she is gone, forever.
[B]Evita[/B] - I walked in today and before I got out of the locker I saw Evita in her new sexy blue lingerie with a nice matching necklace. Not sure what her body looked like before but I thought she looked sexy as hell in that lingerie. And if you call that "fat" then all the girls in America are fat! She surprised me today too. When I arrived, she actually went and told Tatiana in the locker that I was in the club. So, not just all the guys know, even the girls? WTF. It was so nice of her to do that. Actually on Sunday, when Jnpr30 booked Tatiana for the first and last session, I wanted to go with Tatiana from 2-4 am so Jnpr30 can have his last hour with her. We later realized I might not have the time with Tatiana later if I was to go with Evita then. Evita actually told me to go with Tatiana first! When I circled the floor and couldn't find her, she even offered to go look for her and did go to the locker to check. It was the nice and sweet side from Evita that I didn't expect. As I mentioned previously, I have become a part of her fan club now. She arrived around 5 pm and when I took her at 9:30 pm I was her very first customer! I don't think she went with anyone afterward (or at least I didn't see).
[B]Nicolette[/B] - other than Tatiana and Evita, she is also another person that is on my list of "must take" for the day. She is a nice and sweet person. And not just that she is excellent in the room! Most, if not all, of the girls as more rooms / sessions I have been with them, the less service I get or the service declines. With Nicolette, things are always the same or getting even better each time I am with her. I don't take her as long as Evita and Tatiana and not multiple times in a day but she is always eager to please. Highly recommend her too.
So many girls look so great in the lingerie. [B]Mila[/B] was wearing this red lingerie and looked very tempting. Too bad there's not much time for me to go around. [B]Everlina[/B] also looked great in her black lingerie exposing her nice boobs. I finally found out who [B]Sidonia[/B] is and I thought she also look great. Even Nastia was so bored that she practice dancing on the pole. I have a few days left on this trip and can't wait to go back to Sharks again.
Badin. Yes. Mila really looked good on her red outfit. Unusual for girls on dessous day.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2015756]Badin. Yes. Mila really looked good on her red outfit. Unusual for girls on dessous day.[/QUOTE]In clubs not full naked, white, red or flesh color lingerie are the sexiest for me. When my LR girl had white lingerie and white stockings, when I put her off, she likes I play to put her off, it was like honeymoon after wedding, had several honeymoon with her, and maybe others to come.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2015706]Pentire, one girl told me she likes Far Eastern guys because they have small dicks and cum fast and are polite, even ridiculously so. She doesn't charge them more than the going rate although some girls try. Another girl says she hates their rudeness. Both girls says they hate customers who are overmuscled, young, or Turkish ethnicity. So, no definitive answer, just girl opinions and strategies.[/QUOTE]Ah ok. Just a matter of personal preference, that's understandable.
Certainly in my experience, out of the nine I sessioned with this past weekend, only two or perhaps three were up for a good pounding while the others seemed intent on restricting my ability to perform. Indeed one of them explained, there was no way she could allow deep & lengthy penetration for just €50.00 with her hoping for ten customers today.
[QUOTE=Pentire;2015783] out of the nine I sessioned with this past weekend, only two or perhaps three were up for a good pounding while the others seemed intent on restricting my ability to perform. Indeed one of them explained, there was no way she could allow deep & lengthy penetration for just 50.00 with her hoping for ten customers today.[/QUOTE]Some girls can do it quite readily, even if tiny. Some girls suffer from lower abdominal pains/ low grade infection from inflammation or have a bruised cervix so can't easily Some girls just don't like anything except money for nothing. Some girls can take ass pounding but not vaginal astonishingly. Pounding not my normal style (when I did for a while the joke was that I was Turkish). Most girls can take very deep if done gently.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2015706]Pentire, one girl told me she likes Far Eastern guys because they have small dicks and cum fast and are polite, even ridiculously so. She doesn't charge them more than the going rate although some girls try. Another girl says she hates their rudeness. Both girls says they hate customers who are overmuscled, young, or Turkish ethnicity. So, no definitive answer, just girl opinions and strategies.[/QUOTE]One girl described to me what she called bullshit "muslim sex", probably meaning Turkish mostly. Her Generalisation: The young guys like to show how macho they are so do not treat girls with best levels of respect and bang bang hard and fast for a relatively short time. Very few need a full 30 minutes. Probably never do DATY. Of course there would be plenty of non-muslims that do the same, however young Turks tend to be very conformist. You see they all seem to have exactly the same haircut. LOL Maybe young guys like to conform in every country, not sure. You sometimes see girls that specialise in taking Turkish guys for 15 minute sessions. They may have special skills to make the guys cum fast.
Some of us westerners like to think we are not conformist and different to everyone else, not trying to copy anyone else, each with our own personal style, and maybe the odd secret things (probably not guessable) in our session that differ from everyone else in some small way.
[QUOTE=Howie;2014650]Anyone know who the blond newbie friend of Yellis? She looks hot with a PSE body. Might give her a try.[/QUOTE]Well, I couldn't resist the hot body of Yellis blond buddy so decided to give her a try. On close up, her face was fairly average but that body of hers was smoking. She went by the name Rebecca from Constanta, Romania. Been at Sharks for 6+ months. Found out after the session that she had mixed reports in this forum. Great optifik but be warned that she is an extreme upseller. Excellent BBBJ, gorgeous pussy and pink asshole and I loved sucking on her natural C's. Don't mind fucking her again in the future but just for the optics.
After the session, spent some time eating and recharging and then went to seek out Brenda. After the natural C's wanted to get my lips around something bigger such as natural DD's. It was around 10 pm and she was not at her new usual spot by the bar near the couches by the entrance. Saw her earlier in the evening so knew she was in the house. I guess she must have left early or was tied up with a long time appointment as I did not see her for the rest of the evening when I finished at around midnight. I noticed that Brenda and Yellis sat at direct opposite ends of the bar now where as in the past they sat next to each other. Anyone know if they had a falling out?
One other returnee that was there that I was tempted to fuck but didn't was Romanian Andrea. Slim model body type but average looking face. Was hoping Helli would be there based on some recent sighting reports but did not see her.
Anyways, I'll be back to Sharks this week on a mission to suck on some natural double D's and also to check out two favorable mentions on this thread: Tatiana and Mandy. Can anyone guide me on where they normally sit?
Thanks.
Howie.
Sounds like her business model has changed. She didn't upsell when I first met her. Seemed friendly, but service wasn't really that great, I was kinda hopeful given she was with Yellis. A top looker at Sharks. Type of Romie looks I like, tits nice. I can't help, but my eyes wander in her direction when she is nearby. 😋.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2015805] You sometimes see girls that specialise in taking Turkish guys for 15 minute sessions. They may have special skills to make the guys cum fast.
[/QUOTE]It's not any special skills, they are young and likely not looking for GFE, and don't mind quick sessions. This is probably why you see them come out of room quickly. Turkish clubs I've been, you see some quick rooms and guys may assume the girl's services are generally short based on that fact, but depends on the girl and client.
It depends on the age of Turkish clients I think. The older types would likely be more inclined for GFE type sessions.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2015805]One girl described to me what she called bullshit "muslim sex", probably meaning Turkish mostly. Her Generalisation: The young guys like to show how macho they are so do not treat girls with best levels of respect and bang bang hard and fast for a relatively short time. You sometimes see girls that specialise in taking Turkish guys for 15 minute sessions. [/QUOTE]What happened Syz? Did the Frenchman hack your account? Is he posting under your alias now? LOL.
No, that can't be it -- I can actually understand your post. Haha.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2015827]Seemed friendly, but service wasn't really that great, I was kinda hopeful given she was with Yellis. A top looker at Sharks. Type of Romie looks I like, tits nice.[/QUOTE]It must have been the after shave I was wearing. Following Nick the G's advice, I wore the money smelling kind. Unfortunate that Brenda wasn't around at the time to smell it. LOL.
Howie.
As long as they know the right course of action based on the money fragrance.
Before I step onto the floor I spray a bit of eau du poor toilette. 😁.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2015841]What happened Syz? Did the Frenchman hack your account? Is he posting under your alias now? LOL.
No, that can't be it -- I can actually understand your post. Haha.[/QUOTE]Close but my English is a little too good.
[QUOTE=Howie;2015826]Well, I couldn't resist the hot body of Yellis blond buddy so decided to give her a try. On close up, her face was fairly average but that body of hers was smoking. She went by the name Rebecca from Constanta, Romania. Been at Sharks for 6+ months. Found out after the session that she had mixed reports in this forum. Great optifik but be warned that she is an extreme upseller. Excellent BBBJ, gorgeous pussy and pink asshole and I loved sucking on her natural C's. Don't mind fucking her again in the future but just for the optics.
Anyways, I'll be back to Sharks this week on a mission to suck on some natural double D's and also to check out two favorable mentions on this thread: Tatiana and Mandy. Can anyone guide me on where they normally sit?
Thanks.
Howie.[/QUOTE]Blond Rebeka is not new at Sharks.
Mandy. De, short fake blond with tattoo lips on right side of ass, usually stay close to restaurant, when she is free.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2015805]One girl described to me what she called bullshit "muslim sex", probably meaning Turkish mostly. Her Generalisation: The young guys like to show how macho they are so do not treat girls with best levels of respect and bang bang hard and fast for a relatively short time. Very few need a full 30 minutes. Probably never do DATY. Of course there would be plenty of non-muslims that do the same, however young Turks tend to be very conformist. You see they all seem to have exactly the same haircut. LOL Maybe young guys like to conform in every country, not sure. You sometimes see girls that specialise in taking Turkish guys for 15 minute sessions. They may have special skills to make the guys cum fast.
Some of us westerners like to think we are not conformist and different to everyone else, not trying to copy anyone else, each with our own personal style, and maybe the odd secret things (probably not guessable) in our session that differ from everyone else in some small way.[/QUOTE]Some girls are Asian business specialists or go into this easy hugging business, some girls with strong vagina work in fast turkish business. Fast and furious fucking a cow, no kiss, nor DATY with dirty prostitutes, many cum very fast, so 40 or 50 for suck for 1 or 2 mn and fuck, made in few minutes. One of my very regular is very used to, not long ago, she smiled to me when she arrived, then I look for good room free, but a guy jumped on her. When she came back, she went to me saying: I'm sorry, but I knew I would finish him in 10 mn, I stay longer in room with you. Some girls told: as soon they cum, they stand up and some throw money on bed and leave, usually they have money in room, not giving in dirty prostitutes hands.
Jnp, I promise you your Sharks young turk you miss, don't go in NRW clubs with me. Some girls should feel lonely now.
[QUOTE=Howie;2015826]Tatiana and Mandy. Can anyone guide me on where they normally sit?
Thanks.
Howie.[/QUOTE]Well, Mandy normally sits at the bar somewhere near the entrance when available. But that is just 1% of the time. 99% of the time she is busy in room.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2016094]Well, Mandy normally sits at the bar somewhere near the entrance when available. But that is just 1% of the time. 99% of the time she is busy in room.[/QUOTE]Tatiana is near the back stairs, close to the solarium. Either on the couches, or on the pole stage. Some times walks around with Madalina.
Mandy as Pistons said is quite busy. Although, last week was so slow she was available quite a bit. She seems to work early part of the week and goes back home Stuttgart on weekend, even Friday. Not always, but generally. I sometimes find her close to the tables near the kitchen.
Well, she wore that outfit last Tuesday as well and I happened to witness that glory. Alas, witness was all I could and did. It was the day in which her other dude grabbed her for such a long stretch, I left the club with blue balls. Well, not quite, because Mandy, Scarlet and a couple of other girls took care of them, but they still could have used some love from our pretty maiden, LOL. That's the problem with being a member of the fan club of a popular girl like Tatiana, too much competition. It's good for you that you have the field all to yourself this week; make the most of it while it lasts.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2015725][B]Tatiana[/B] - Jnpr30, since you were not here, I had to copy your move and be her first and last customer :) I was actually her only customer today! It was that slow. She was wearing this black one-piece lingerie, pushing up her gorgeous boobs with nice cleavage, almost G-string / bikini type exposing her nice butt, WOW! You are missing out dude. I was with her from 7-9 pm and made appointment with her later from 2-4 am. Is it that obvious that she is one of my favorites? Because someone was asking her what she was doing at around 2 am and she said she was waiting for her customer. The guimmediately replied, "oh, BadinSweet?" I won't compete with Jnpr30's writing but I had a great time with her, as usual. She is smart, funny, and great in the room, if you treat her well. She will leave the end of this week for Easter and school. It maybe a while before she come back again. So, if you like her or have never been with her before, you need to grab her now, before she is gone, forever..[/QUOTE]
According to reports, yesterday blonde Monica, Ro (several years at FKK-World, then tour through other clubs) showed up at Sharks! Easily recognizable by the way she walks through the club.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2016271]According to reports, yesterday blonde Monica, Ro (several years at FKK-World, then tour through other clubs) showed up at Sharks! Easily recognizable by the way she walks through the club.[/QUOTE]Never had her at World I discovered only on beginning of 2014 . How does she walk? Model walk? Like Madi World. Some girls claim to have been models, but don't walk like.
My spring FKK tour Day 1 Thu, Sharks 1.
1) Emma: 1920-2020 for E100,21 yo, Rom / Mol, long blonde, 162 cm, slim, A-cup, small ass, pretty, thick eyebrows, round eyes, round face, a little upturned small nose, working for 4 days at Sharks (really?) after a small club (Tiger something? And "Denise Richards" according to KirkLazarus. In a room LFK, my 5 min erotic massage on her tits, 15 min DATY with her silent but wiggling and jiggling O, reverse cow-girl, normal cow-girl with my rapid piston movement, missionary, doggie, 2nd missionary with CAT (Coital Alignment Technique) leading her second O, which I couldn't notice, then finally my 15 min massage on her. No fingering was allowed, but E30 for it may she accept. Repeat.
2) Nastia: 2055-2155 for E100, the first time in the past four months, one of my favorites at Sharks. In a room my 5 min massage on her back, my erotic massage, 15 min DATY with her appreciation, though no orgasm, 15 min missionary with her legs on my shoulder leading her to self-professed O, her 10 min BBBJ (better than last time) with no CIM, my second 15 min massage on her. Must repeat.
3) Micky: 2220-2315 for E100,25 yo, semi-long blonde put in a bun, slim but a little curvy, a little saggy see-cup, very pretty, round eyes, working 1 year at Sharks. In a room just lip-to-lip kiss for a hygiene reason, my erotic massage, 10 min DATY with several-time cleanings with paper towels, dry caressing, CBJ, reverse cow-girl, normal cow-girl with my piston movement, missionary, doggie, missionary with her self-proclaimed O, my 15 min massage on her and her 10 min strong massage on me. May repeat.
4) Bianca: 0030-0125 for 100 E and covered fingering for 50 E, the first time in the past four months, one of my favorites at Sharks. In a room my 10 min massage on her back, erotic massage, 8 min DATY, 8 min missionary with her helpful fingering leading her to O, covered fingering leading her second intensive O, my second 15 min massage on her. Have to repeat as a slave to her beauty.
5) Selena: 0210～0240 for E50,29 yo, long blonde, slim, saggy be-cup, her lower part of face looking like a 50 yo lady, working for 2 weeks at Sharks 2 years after World. In a room deep, deep and DFK, DATY, missionary and her pounding her own clit with my lips while my fingering her **** leading her to big O. Her dream, cum every day and today, came true with me, while my lips needed a night's rest. Not repeat.
Left at 3 am.
My spring FKK tour Day 2, Fri, Sharks 2.
1) Ella: 1215-1310 for E100, a 22 yo Kenyan, long black / brown hair, 160 cm slim, A-cup, small ass, large nose and lips as an African, working for a year at Sharks. We went to a room after 20 min chat on the couch without reference to our session time. In a room DFK, my erotic massage on her tits, 20 min DATY with my knees on the floor and with her tearing my hair and pushing my head to her pussy leading her to silent O, 15 min missionary, fingering DATY, her toilet break, marvelous BBBJ with deep throat, cow-girl with my rapid piston movement, slow and fast doggie, my massage on her. Repeat.
2) Raja: 1350-1500 for E150 and E10 for unsuccessful CIM, 23 yo Rom / Rus, long blonde (extension), 176 cm, slim, A-cup, pretty, working for three months at Sharks after GT, DV and Oceans. Yesterday I'the asked her name a couple of times and today did I do the same thing. Went to a room without fixing our session time. In a room DFK, DATY with her masturbation before her big O, continuous missionary with her fingering leading to her second and third O, my 10 min massage on her, her 20 min unsuccessful CIM, after which I declared the end of our session due to my dick condition. Repeat.
3) Abi: 1630-1730 for E100,20 yo, short brunette, 150 cm, "infant" figure, A-cup, GND, working three months at Sharks. Went to a room after 30 min caressing on the coach with no idea of our session time. In a room DFK, caressing, DATY with my knees on the floor, fingering DATY, short but pleasing BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie, missionary leading us nowhere. At 48 min mark, I surrendered, and massaged her as reparation of my defeat. May not repeat, but if you like GND, I recommend her.
4) Iris: 1945-2045 for E100 and E25 for covered fingering, long blonde (extension), 173 cm, slim, a little saggy be-cup, pretty in a long distance, working for three months at Sharks. In a room LFK, caressing, 10 min DATY with her big O, 10 min missionary with her silent O, 13 min mediocre BBBJ, 5 min break, 7 min covered 25 –Euro fingering with her intensive O and my 15 min massage on her. Repeat.
5) Betty: 2130-2230 for E100 and E30 for covered fingering, semi-short black hair, much shorter than her cousin, Vivian, A-cup, pretty. In a room LFK, caressing, my erotic massage on her tits, DATY with her wiggling three times, contracting five times and final intensive O, missionary, covered 30-Euro fingering without success because her cum is just once a day, my 15 min massage. I got surprised that Betty and Vivian show the same reaction during sex as Juicy and Laura at Oase do. Repeat.
6) Ester & Lavinia (ex-Bianca at World): 2315-2340 for E50 each, the first time in the past four months for Ester and ten months for Lavinia. "Quick Charity Fuck" because they are always complaining about my company only with their friend, Bianca. I chose a large sofa in the VIP room for our threesome battle and they did what they were supposed to do. Lavinia's BBBJ, Ester's BBBJ, cow-girl with Lavinia, missionary with Lavinia, cow-girl with Ester, doggie with Ester, during which Lavinia burst into laughter, I followed it, another long and big laughter of Lavinia followed by mine. Sometimes watching sex of others makes you laugh. I got impressed that both of them obeyed strictly a "30 min E50 no kiss rule". Repeat separately.
7) Vivian: 0015-0115 for E100, the first time in the past four months. She mistook me for an Asian "bad boy" who hadn't shown any respect to her, I mistook her for Raja due to their height. In a room LFK, my massage on her, erotic massage, 15 min DATY with her huge and long orgasm during which I was almost choked by her thighs as before, 15 min missionary leading her to light cum, doggie, my 15 min massage on her. Repeat.
8) Stefie: 0135-0235 for E100, the first time in the past four months. In a room BBBJ, cow-girl, 10 min fingering DATY with her big O, 15 m in missionary, my 25 min massage on her, and no kiss as before. Repeat.
Left at 3 am.
My spring FKK tour Day 4, Tue, Sharks 3.
1) Patricia: 1330-1530, E200+E20 (tip for fingering), 28 yo, long dark brown hair, A-cup, firm (army experience) but slim, pretty, working for one week after Globe. She said she took the name "Patricia" because the former one left the club, but I saw the former? In a room my erotic massage on her, DATY with her hard wiggling (I first thought O, but not), missionary in which I didn't feel full penetration of my dick, another unsuccessful DATY with covered fingering, excellent BBBJ, missionary, doggie with full penetration of my dick, my third DATY with her most intensive O ever in my FKK history, for which she said usually she doesn't cum at this kind of job, today is exception, my massage on her, BBBJ without CIM, her excellent massage on me including foot bottom and palm. Repeat.
2) Anya: 1600-1700, E100, the first time in the past ten months. In a room LFK, fingering DATY with her rapidest O in 5 min, my massage on her, my erotic massage, 1 min BBBJ, cow-girl with my fast piston movement, missionary with her fingering leading her to second O, break, doggie, sweaty missionary, break, 15 min fingering DATY suspended by her order, my massage on her. Repeat. She was so bored tonight that she had long time to practice pole-dance with Nastia almost whole night.
3) Ebu: 1730-1900, E150, red long hair (originally blonde), cellulitic be-cup, slim, so-so pretty, GND, working for four years at Sharks with interval. In a room caressing, LFK, 45 min DATY with her complete silence leading her to wiggling for the last 10 min, her sudden suspension of DATY, hugging, doggie, missionary, fingering DATY, toilette break, BBBJ, 69, cow-girl and time-up. May repeat.
4) Nastia: 1950-2120, E150+E50 for covered fingering, the second session in this FKK tour. In a room lip-to-lip kiss, my erotic massage, DATY with no reaction at all on her side, covered fingering DATY without her reaction at all, break, BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary without her reaction, my toilette break, BBBJ, my massage on her, her toilette break and time-up. Would repeat with her reaction.
5) Bianca: 2230-2310 (excluding 20 min as tip) E100+E50 for covered fingering, the second session in this FKK tour. I became enslaved once to her beauty and now to her persistency. As a slave I was ordered to be in a cave, massage her, make her cum with covered fingering DATY even though I was totally exhausted by the previous sessions. As a reward she gave me mediocre BBBJ, and then let me fuck her for 3 min. Ordered to repeat as far as I visit Sharks.
Left at midnight.
Thanks for your informative report. Could you tell me what does the "fingering" mean? It seems to me that you prefer the small-boobs girls (A-cup). I like the natural C-Cup and pretty face. Does Shark these days have my fancy?
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2016279]My spring FKK tour Day 4, Tue, Sharks 3.
1) Patricia: 1330-1530, E200+E20 (tip for fingering), 28 yo, long dark brown hair, A-cup, firm (army experience) but slim, pretty, working for one week after Globe. She said she took the name "Patricia" because the former one left the club, but I saw the former? In a room my erotic massage on her, DATY with her hard wiggling (I first thought O, but not), missionary in which I didn't feel full penetration of my dick, another unsuccessful DATY with covered fingering, excellent BBBJ, missionary, doggie with full penetration of my dick, my third DATY with her most intensive O ever in my FKK history, for which she said usually she doesn't cum at this kind of job, today is exception, my massage on her, BBBJ without CIM, her excellent massage on me including foot bottom and palm. Repeat...[/QUOTE]
YamaYama. Thanks for the entertaining tales of your exploits.
Don't believe everything the girls tell you: as I was there on some of the same days I got opposite statements on some points to what you were told. Either you, or I, were told some fairy tales LOL.
No more Dina for you YY? LOL.
Wow YamaYama. I admire your enthusiasm, clearly a gentleman in love with this hobby.
[QUOTE=Hoanghuya25;2016331]...Could you tell me what does the "fingering" mean?...[/QUOTE]I'm not sure about the exact definition of fingering, but I used this term as "put my fingers into a pussy" .
[QUOTE=Hoanghuya25;2016331]...I like the natural C-Cup and pretty face. Does Shark these days have my fancy?[/QUOTE]There are a lot. I prefer slim girls with pretty face, LOL.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2016338]No more Dina for you YY? LOL.[/QUOTE]Sad, no more...
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2016431]Sad, no more...[/QUOTE]You got to use the power of the euro bills to make her change her mind, LOL.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2016278], cow-girl with my rapid piston movement.[/QUOTE]Hey, that's my line. You have embarked on a dangerous journey my friend. One that leads to removing safety mechanisms and loading up the casing with explosive powder.
Good going with 8 in a day too. Did you pop on every go?
[QUOTE=Optimist;2016336]Don't believe everything the girls tell you: as I was there on some of the same days I got opposite statements on some points to what you were told. Either you, or I, were told some fairy tales LOL.[/QUOTE]Please don't forget to take into consideration too that both of you were told different fairy tales. Absolutely no need for the working girls to tell customers the so-called truth, if those customers are willing to pay for fairy-tales and dim-lighted illusions.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2016279]My spring FKK tour Day 4, Tue, Sharks 3.
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5) Bianca: 2230-2310 (excluding 20 min as tip) E100+E50 for covered fingering, the second session in this FKK tour. I became enslaved once to her beauty and now to her persistency. As a slave I was ordered to be in a cave, massage her, make her cum with covered fingering DATY even though I was totally exhausted by the previous sessions. As a reward she gave me mediocre BBBJ, and then let me fuck her for 3 min. Ordered to repeat as far as I visit Sharks.....[/QUOTE]Haha, I am not surprised that you are fascinated by Bianca. To me. She is pretty, but very demanding， which makes me unbearable, so I tried to avoid her in my visits. If accidentally found by her, I had to surrender and gave her one-hour courtesy room. Overall she deserves.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1950905]2) Bianca, Ro 22 y/o. She has a classic face, tall, looks like a beautiful American next door girl. She is very elegant. Every time, when I saw her walking around, I always thought she and those beautiful girls are wonderful angels created by God, making our earth as heaven. Her service is very good, and she is compliant too.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2016279]
1) Patricia: 1330-1530, E200 + E20 (tip for fingertip), 28 years old, long dark brown hair, A-Cup, firm (army experience) but slim, beautiful for a week after Globe. [/QUOTE]Nice woman to talk to, beautiful, long dark hair with blond highlights in the lower parts, glossy lipstick, large tattoo on left thigh, says she comes from Timisoara (lately most Romanian women come from "Timisoara").
Why an extra 50 for covered finger? Even for uncovered finger that makes no sense but covered finger? That is no different from regular fucking no? Well, except in some cases the finger may be larger in size (not a self confession, mind you) LOL.
So, we had someone pay 50 for playing with guy's ass and now another pay 50 for putting a covered finger in pussy. And it is not even June 30 yet.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2016465]Why an extra 50 for covered finger? Even for uncovered finger that makes no sense but covered finger? That is no different from regular fucking no? Well, except in some cases the finger may be larger in size (not a self confession, mind you) LOL.
So, we had someone pay 50 for playing with guy's ass and now another pay 50 for putting a covered finger in pussy. And it is not even June 30 yet.[/QUOTE]Starting from July 1st, special protection means will be supplied / available to hand over the dirty and infectious money to avoid direct skin contact (as long as you prefer to pay with dirty cash).
[QUOTE=Pistons;2016453]...Did you pop on every go?[/QUOTE]No single pop at all at FKKs, but two pops by myself at hotels, LOL.
YamaYama,
That's impressive. What's the percentage of girls you bring to O? How much of the success rate do you contribute to your persistence vs technique?
Would you please share some of your technique?
Outside of FKKs I put women first but few times I went to these establishments, I cared about myself a lot more than them since I am paying for it. Now I am rethinking that whole stance. Maybe I should take time to practice with these harder than usual subjects and subsequently bear fruits in real life. LOL.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2016474]No single pop at all at FKKs, but two pops by myself at hotels, LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL. I try to keep my hands away at the hotel so I can pop at FKK. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2016046]
Jnp, I promise you your Sharks young turk you miss, don't go in NRW clubs with me. Some girls should feel lonely now.[/QUOTE]Haha I never ever even said Hi to that Young Turk dude. It's just that he has been in the club on every single trip I made to Sharks, which made me think he must practically live there. It's an odd sort of comfort, seeing familiar faces. Like old furniture in your house LOL.
Seriously, there are about a dozen Sharks regulars / locals half of whom always seem to be in the club whenever I attend the club. Again, never spoke to any of them, but they seem like fixtures. In contrast, I hardly recognize any men's faces, and these days even girls' faces at Oase, which seems to increase my sense of alienation in that place.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2016481]Haha I never ever even said Hi to that Young Turk dude. It's just that he has been in the club on every single trip I made to Sharks, which made me think he must practically live there. It's an odd sort of comfort, seeing familiar faces. Like old furniture in your house LOL.
Seriously, there are about a dozen Sharks regulars / locals half of whom always seem to be in the club whenever I attend the club. Again, never spoke to any of them, but they seem like fixtures. In contrast, I hardly recognize any men's faces, and these days even girls' faces at Oase, which seems to increase my sense of alienation in that place.[/QUOTE]Even I never saw him going to room, but only chatting with Janine. De or girls around her, maybe he found like me casting becoming disappointing now, as touristic GND fuck factory, and moved.
Even maybe the largest casting with 100 girls, but no dreamed girl found and I can manage with only one, easier for me with only one, then no jealousy.
Some quite pretty new girls at Oase, but no sophisticated woman look, only little girls and lack of sensuality and skill in room, not women yet.
[QUOTE=Pentire;2015606]Are these guys from the Far East paying premium rates or is there another attraction?[/QUOTE]In my observation, most East Asians in Sharks are Japanese.
Girls in FKK often call East Asians "China", but in fact, most guests are Japanese. Very few Chinese.
Last month I was there, I only heard Japanese and English (Canada or US accent) spoken by other East Asian-look-alike guests. No Chinese was heard there. A Japanese guest even greeted me in Japanese. LOL.
Japanese migrants and tourists have a good reputation in Europe. Being generous with money and polite is the main reason, I believe. The scenario in Sharks is just an extension of what has been going on for decades.
The girls in FKK like them for the reason. Other factors are not the main reasons, and more like jokes.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2015706]Another girl says she hates their rudeness.[/QUOTE]Wait, so the girl is saying there are also rude East Asians, while others are very polite?
Well, she might be thinking about me. I don't remain polite as long as the girls try to take advantage of me. I have walked away from some girls and taken one girl to the reception. To them, I might be a rude East Asian because they were not able to manipulate me as easily as they did other East Asians. LOL.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2015828]It's not any special skills, they are young and likely not looking for GFE, and don't mind quick sessions. This is probably why you see them come out of room quickly. Turkish clubs I've been, you see some quick rooms and guys may assume the girl's services are generally short based on that fact, but depends on the girl and client.
It depends on the age of Turkish clients I think. The older types would likely be more inclined for GFE type sessions.[/QUOTE]Having been to the famous Turkish club, Mondial, I find that people may have been generalizing Turkish guests too much.
In Mondail, I see all different ages, appearances, body types, and behaviors of guests there, so I don't make judgements easily by nationality or ethnicity.
As I am planning another trip next week to Germany's FKK scene and reading some of the report on the board.
Sitting last time, a month ago, in the main area of Sharks, I realized that I ended up associating girl to pornstar instead of sometimes remembering their names. I'm sure that I am not alone in this "activity" I which girl you associate to whom?
I had a great session last time to a girl that makes me feel she looks like Lana Rhoades. Anyone can let me know if they know her and if she's still around Sharks?
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2016460]Please don't forget to take into consideration too that both of you were told different fairy tales. Absolutely no need for the working girls to tell customers the so-called truth, if those customers are willing to pay for fairy-tales and dim-lighted illusions.[/QUOTE]I remember one time a girl told me her birthday, and I asked her why she had told you a different date Her reply: "I don't have to tell the truth". Indeed. For example I rarely believe when a girl claims an orgasm, even if the evidence is there.
Fairy tales or truth? Whatever keeps the customer happy.
Missing Beatrice ex Oase when she was at sharks 2015, missing her perfect tits.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2016481]Seriously, there are about a dozen Sharks regulars / locals half of whom always seem to be in the club whenever I attend the club. Again, never spoke to any of them, but they seem like fixtures. In contrast, I hardly recognize any men's faces, and these days even girls' faces at Oase, which seems to increase my sense of alienation in that place.[/QUOTE]Its just your memory or lack of it. Every visit to Oase, I am seeing guys regularly there, perhaps they maybe only once or twice per week, not every single day. I even know which girls they like, since they told me, or I have seen them go to same girl often. Also there are about 50% of the girls that have worked there for a pretty long time, or maybe been gone for a while and came back. IMHO, Oase has less girl turn over than Sharks.
I think it is very tough for new girls starting at Sharks to make good money, unless they have something special, for looks or service and preferably both. Many do not last long. Some are just not looking good enough.
Both Sharks and Oase have many long time regular girls. Next to the most important thing for the girls "the money making" they like at Oase the very fair club treatment and at Sharks the flexible working hours. Nevertheless Oase and Sharks have most of time more new girls or higher girls turn over than at World, Mainhattan and Palace.
Yep also at Oase still regular guys but far less than more than five years ago.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2016637]Her reply: "I don't have to tell the truth"[/QUOTE]Happens all the time. When asking if a girl works tomorrow or later weekday, a standard reply is always "Yes", because she calculates how many clients are asking to weigh in her chances. If your "date" is a no-show, don't waste your time and move on immediately. If you text her, a standard reply will be "not feeling well. ".
Some of you may have seen the Deja Vu Showgirls strip club's slogan "1000's of beautiful girls and 3 ugly ones! Now Sharks can put a slogan "1000's of ugly girls and 3 beautiful ones!" LOL.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2016580]
Well, she might be thinking about me. I don't remain polite as long as the girls try to take advantage of me. I have walked away from some girls and taken one girl to the reception. To them, I might be a rude East Asian because they were not able to manipulate me as easily as they did other East Asians. LOL.[/QUOTE]"lets stay 1 HR I give you a nice massage, you can cum twice and cum in my mouth" LOL.
Captain EA you have to teach yr troops a lesson.
[QUOTE=Gino02;2016771]Some of you may have seen the Deja Vu Showgirls strip club's slogan "1000's of beautiful girls and 3 ugly ones! Now Sharks can put a slogan "1000's of ugly girls and 3 beautiful ones!" LOL.[/QUOTE]You mean bad casting on a Friday early evening? Maybe beauties are in room?
[QUOTE=Amspascha;2016680]Missing Beatrice ex Oase when she was at sharks 2015, missing her perfect tits.[/QUOTE]Not seen since before Summer, but other beautiful tits: Rebeka looking a bit like Beatrice and may be same for upselling. Mersi. Hu with firm full tits and no upselling, Diana even they look a bit less full than before.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2016637]I remember one time a girl told me her birthday, and I asked her why she had told you a different date. Her reply: "I don't have to tell the truth". Indeed.[/QUOTE]Yeah, lots of things to remember and even more to forget about days gone by in FKK-World.
I remember a conversation with a guy. He was asking me how can he be sure that a working girl tells him the truth. What would be the indicators? How could he be absolutely sure? It appeared to be incredibly important to him. I asked him if he is conscious about the context why he is paying for sex and why it was so important for him to get the truth from a woman working in a club as a prostitute. I asked him: are you true to yourself too? How about your life, how often do you tell the truth when talking with others, e. G. With that woman?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2016791]You mean bad casting on a Friday early evening? Maybe beauties are in room?[/QUOTE]Yesterday (March 31st) there were 98 girls working at 9 PM. This is normal for a Friday evening. What surprised me is that there were only a handful of men taking sunbathing around outdoor swimming pool in such a sunny and warm day.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2016789]Captain EA you have to teach yr troops a lesson.[/QUOTE]In fact, I did. But the effect is so limited, obviously.
I even wrote a detailed article introducing German FKK Sauna clubs in Chinese and posted it in several forums.
In the article, not only did I highlight the price structure and rules in the clubs, but also reminded the readers about all the scamming designed for EA tourists.
But as I have said, most EA guests in German FKK clubs are in fact Japanese or EA from English-speaking countries. They do not read Chinese forums and they are also a lot wealthier than any other EA groups, so they don't really mind spending extra 50 or 100 in each session.
By the way, maybe someone can tell those Romanian girls the fact that most of their potential EA guests speak Japanese or English, so they should at least call EA guests "Japan", instead of "China". LOL.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2016465]So, we had someone pay 50 for playing with guy's ass and now another pay 50 for putting a covered finger in pussy. And it is not even June 30 yet.[/QUOTE]Oh my god, the worst scenario just occurred to me.
Hopefully the girls will never try to sell us guys Strap-On-Pegging for 100.
Can't imagine the girls wearing strap-on-didoes trying to attack men's asses.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2016791]You mean bad casting on a Friday early evening? Maybe beauties are in room?[/QUOTE]Yup, casting quality was really really poor even though quantity was usual high. I left home, again, without any session after watching about 6 hours.
[QUOTE=Gino02;2017128]Yup, casting quality was really really poor even though quantity was usual high. I left home, again, without any session after watching about 6 hours.[/QUOTE]In which case, may I suggest the high quality visually appealing stunners you're perhaps looking for are not available in this type of establishment at €50.00 a pop.
[QUOTE=Gino02;2017128]Yup, casting quality was really really poor even though quantity was usual high. I left home, again, without any session after watching about 6 hours.[/QUOTE]At what time, looks unusual that on a Friday evening the LU is poor, there are so many girls all can t be not at your taste.
[QUOTE=Pentire;2017253]In which case, may I suggest the high quality visually appealing stunners you're perhaps looking for are not available in this type of establishment at 50.00 a pop.[/QUOTE]Yeah, maybe you are right. But 2015 or 2016 were way better casting. Looks like the club is now focusing on quick bucks by allowing any girl for 100 euros entry fee, without any basic quality control, which they seem to used to do.
I dunno if 2015 or 16 had way better casting. There is still the same core girls that's been working there. Maybe the newly rotations aren't interesting enough as when those core group of girls new for you at the time.
I've had too many visits that I don't come out so satisfied with the level of optics(well, at least not as much as the hype going for it). Sharks LU, besides the notable girls, I don't go around thinking, oh boy look at those numbers of hotties. It's usually, I spend lots of time looking, and just end up taking whoever. If the LU isn't full of hotties, I expect some service, lack of upsells, and if that is not the case, where is the value?
It's just a hyped up version of what World's LU was back in the days with many avg looking girls. Anyway, LUs these days, I'm not compelled by optics, I'll be more pleased by services. If the services was strong, I will be more compelled that's for sure. I don't find much value either way so, I don't visit that much.
I do have an element of sympathy with Gino's remarks, although as I say again, for a €50.00 fuck; you're most certainly not going to get Miss World. In any event, I've more or less given up on the very popular, shall we say more visually appealing types whom sit around thinking their shit doesn't stink, hardly ever are they able to satisfy my bedroom requirements when the chips are down.
At the other end of the scale Gino, yes there are a few right ole munters in Sharks whom in my opinion should not be allowed entry even though they've paid their door fee. There's the fat Filipina whom would keep bugging me asking if I'd like a massage, then you have a more than slightly rotund blonde wearing glasses who's naked appearance is quite grotesque, but then again I witnessed her snogging the face off an old fella in the lounge area near the sauna, WTF.
[QUOTE=Gino02;2016771]Some of you may have seen the Deja Vu Showgirls strip club's slogan "1000's of beautiful girls and 3 ugly ones! Now Sharks can put a slogan "1000's of ugly girls and 3 beautiful ones!" LOL.[/QUOTE]Hey Gino,
Who are the 3 beautiful ones at Sharks?
Howie.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2017316]
I've had too many visits that I don't come out so satisfied with the level of optics(well, at least not as much as the hype going for it). Sharks LU, besides the notable girls, I don't go around thinking, oh boy look at those numbers of hotties. It's usually, I spend lots of time looking, and just end up taking whoever. If the LU isn't full of hotties, I expect some service, lack of upsells, and if that is not the case, where is the value?
[/QUOTE]In general, Hessen girls are better at cultivating relationships and creating chemistry with the customer. Some mongers here are transparent about their preferences and how much they spend. Having relationships with the WG outside the club. Doing five-hour rooms. Drinking alcohol in the lounge for three hours. Visiting them in Romania. Some even hint at AO. At the 50 EUR price point, NRW girls are much better value, but at the higher price points maybe not. I just don't think NRW clientele demand these luxury services, so the NRW WGs do not have the skills, experience, or comfort level to deliver them.
I prefer NRW for sure. But it's not for everyone. It has its negatives. Long room waits and smaller LUs mean I have to waste more money on entries and waste more time driving around. Girls are not naked. GT also has older WGs.
[QUOTE=Gino02;2017278]Yeah, maybe you are right. But 2015 or 2016 were way better casting. Looks like the club is now focusing on quick bucks by allowing any girl for 100 euros entry fee, without any basic quality control, which they seem to used to do.[/QUOTE]I can only be agree, I wrote so many times after my few visits since September, casting is not what it was until Summer 2016 , even certainly biggest German casting. Even I never experienced, maybe also many girls upsell now for kissing or DATY. Becoming a tourists to fuck GND factory.
I agree with Syzy on one point: In a club, I don't care about how many girls, because I won't fuck 100 girls, I'm just interested by the few prettiest, but now I don't find at Sharks beauties who attract me, with GFE woman behavior. Mandy. De has the behavior, Sandra. De also, but many others left.
Nevertheless, if too many GND now, I won't write many are ugly. Sylvana is now at Samya, where casting is now higher for my eyes, no Kleopatra, nor Katea. Ru, nor Francesca, nor Tina, at Sharks, or Oase.
For well known examples, Evita face never attracted me, Janine. De face is quite average for me, Branda / Brandy / Leya or Alice Marilyn face are not attractive for me, but I won't say they are ugly, just lack of lightning face for my tastes, but they are the running after stars at Sharks.
Maybe a few more quite pretty faces at Oase, but lack of women's behavior and sensuality.
So I moved to other places, with less girls, but higher level for me. I remember History Liestal on 17 December. Only 17 girls, but Mady now touring at Globe, Andrea and Amelia who seemed left, and the exceptional GF Lorena, also Ada. A small club where I couldn t have the 4 attractive girls for me, had only Mady and Andrea, I regret I missed Amelia and had many times with Lorena after, last was on Friday when I couldn't ski on water snow, becoming too dangerous.
For my last visits at Sharks, I never regret I missed a girl.
Still few high level services girls: Marina. Lat, Blond now silicon Patricia, Mandy and Sandra, Agnes. Pol if still working at Sharks. Had so many great times with top girls at Sharks, club really improved for services, so I just can wish a new dreamed girl in future, just one is enough and easier for me.
But I confirm quantity never made quality. I will keep my 20 € voucher, each time I went on Monday for Karolina. Pol or Alice, I paid 45 + voucher and they gave me back a new voucher, I don't know if they also give back on Tuesday.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2017426]In general, Hessen girls are better at cultivating relationships and creating chemistry with the customer. Some mongers here are transparent about their preferences and how much they spend. Having relationships with the WG outside the club. Doing five-hour rooms. Drinking alcohol in the lounge for three hours. Visiting them in Romania. Some even hint at AO. At the 50 EUR price point, NRW girls are much better value, but at the higher price points maybe not. I just don't think NRW clientele demand these luxury services, so the NRW WGs do not have the skills, experience, or comfort level to deliver them.
I prefer NRW for sure. But it's not for everyone. It has its negatives. Long room waits and smaller LUs mean I have to waste more money on entries and waste more time driving around. Girls are not naked. GT also has older WGs.[/QUOTE]Maybe true for Evita business, I don't say for AO, but at the moment, since last Summer, much higher level in NRW for skill, at LR, or at least Madeleine at GT, Kate for very friendly and top sexy girl, Katea. Ru.
[QUOTE=Gino02;2017278]Yeah, maybe you are right. But 2015 or 2016 were way better casting. Looks like the club is now focusing on quick bucks by allowing any girl for 100 euros entry fee, without any basic quality control, which they seem to used to do.[/QUOTE]2015 was way better than now.
Summer 2016 it started, the girl's amount began to raise upto 200 or more.
Then the top girls starting to leave the club, because they don't make enough money.
Last Tuesday was like 90 girls and Wednesday over 100, and weekend over 100.
But much less men than before, because the most knows, Sharks is changing, and there is hardly top girls left.
And then new 100€ deal, with DFK and so on. Only make it worse.
Bye bye Sharks!
I visited Sharks and Oase on their dessous days. That is 2 out of 5 days wasted. I fucked up my schedule trying to synch with the availability of my special gal, and that's how it came about. Anyway, if I needed confirmation, dessous is not even interesting as a novelty. I could look at bikini girls all day for free on a beach less than 50 miles away. Sharks is glorious with a hundred+ bare naked ladies strutting pussies and tits; dessous can't hold a candle. For that alone, I would skip a club or a spa where the chicks are not naked. On the first day I can fuck any moving piece of flesh (just kidding, I am a bit more discriminating than that) but on the fifth day of clubbing, it is seeing those beautiful naked sights which brings my little man back to life.
And I think people are too harsh in their assessments. I thought there are at least a couple of dozen girls hot enough to fuck for any demanding customer at Sharks and Oase. Slim bodies, nice tits, young and firm tone. Yes, not everyone has the face of a young Cameron Diaz, but it is crazy to think you can fuck such girls for 50 or even 500. Perhaps some times you get lucky and such girls are there in the clubs, but in general you are getting your money's worth with the quality of girls in these clubs, as long as they don't scam.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2017504]
And I think people are too harsh in their assessments. I thought there are at least a couple of dozen girls hot enough to fuck for any demanding customer at Sharks and Oase. Slim bodies, nice tits, young and firm tone. Yes, not everyone has the face of a young Cameron Diaz, but it is crazy to think you can fuck such girls for 50 or even 500. Perhaps some times you get lucky and such girls are there in the clubs, but in general you are getting your money's worth with the quality of girls in these clubs, as long as they don't scam.[/QUOTE]Words more true are seldom, if ever, posted here. Bravo to you, Sir, for your reports and acute observations.
If you go into any club like Oase, Sharks, or even MH or Palace, with large extensive line-ups, and IF you go with the right (positive and experimental) attitude, you should be able to find above-average sexual experiences (whatever that means to you personally), if you are willing to "work the line-up."
These days what I look for in a mainstream club LU are many different things. Sure, like all of us, I first look for stop-me-in-my-tracks optics. But, there are lot of things beyond that (for me) too: chemistry high on the list. Different guys got different criteria and different (individual) ways of acquiring and / or picking up on chemistry. [For example, take a guy like The Cane, who gave us a fantastic series of posts a few weeks ago: we all know what kind of characteristics and "backward chemistry" he's looking for, right? LOL]
We all look for different micro-things in a girl when we chat / interact / interview / encounter during the course of the day / night / early morning of being in the club, whatever club you're in.
I guess I better make a point here, otherwise be accused of endless rambling: yeah, but at least it's understandable and not repeated ad-nauseum (because once is enough, right?).
My point: Out of a LU of 60 to 100+ girls: if you can't find somebody to click with in the Zimmer, well, maybe the problem is internal, not external. Or maybe you just don't "need it" enough on that day.
[QUOTE=Ortos;2017527]My point: Out of a LU of 60 to 100+ girls: if you can't find somebody to click with in the Zimmer, well, maybe the problem is internal, not external.[/QUOTE]Why is there a need really for it to all be about a "problem" with somebody or some thing? I went to Sharks twice during my trip and did not go with anybody to the room. I said then and I'll say it again now. It's not that there was something intrinsically wrong with Sharks. Nor was there some problem with me. Hey, the place just did not work for me. OK? I don't know why. I can't explain it. It just didn't. I was there for hours and hours on end each time and just did not see anybody I liked. Spoke to some. Was approached by some. No deals were struck! And that's just the way the cookie crumbled. This has happened to me so many times at Mainhattan that I do not plan to return there again anytime soon.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2017504]. Yes, not everyone has the face of a young Cameron Diaz, but it is crazy to think you can fuck such girls for 50 or even 500. [/QUOTE]I never opted to fuck Cameron Diaz (tall Oase Adelle) even for 50 e. Good thing we are all different in our opinnions. For 500 e I would expect 2 x Pamela Anderson at her heights, or CJ Miles or Jesse Jane. Or both or all three at once. Damn you americans are used to overpaying. Let loose and don't assume your religious extremist views are or should be the norm. Anthropology from the animal world says that all women want to sell sex for money. Now the price is only determant on supply and demand...
[QUOTE=Ortos;2017527]
My point: Out of a LU of 60 to 100+ girls: if you can't find somebody to click with in the Zimmer, well, maybe the problem is internal, not external. Or maybe you just don't "need it" enough on that day.[/QUOTE]Ofcourse, but the more you fuck around, the higher expectations you get. A study I read recently claimed men only needs sex once a week to build up the needed hormones to make him happy. Anything more than that one fuck was useless in terms of hormones. So the more you fuck past that one time, the less usefull will it be for you. If someone goes FKKing 7 days in a row and fuck 20+ girls in that time, the optical and service requirements for girl #21 will be substantially higher than for girl #1. And the cut-off will be much more narrow. After several visits you may just wind down to focussibg on those few girls making that narrow cut even on session #1. As your mind may fool you into thinking only those few girls will make you satisfied. But you don't perhaps allways take into accout that girls and you may have different hormonal periods on different visits.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2017548]I never opted to fuck Cameron Diaz (tall Oase Adelle) even for 50 e. Good thing we are all different in our opinnions. For 500 e I would expect 2 x Pamela Anderson at her heights, or CJ Miles or Jesse Jane. Or both or all three at once. Damn you americans are used to overpaying. Let loose and don't assume your religious extremist views are or should be the norm. Anthropology from the animal world says that all women want to sell sex for money. Now the price is only determant on supply and demand...[/QUOTE]That's nice. I love nothing more than being condemned along with my 320 mil countrymen in a generic sweeping statement LOL.
But seriously Jesse Jane? The fake boob porn chick? You would pick her over young Cameron Diaz? Good for you. And BTW, so called Adele Diaz was never Cameron Diaz. Imitation is never the real thing.
Anyway I think German paid sex scene is among the cheapest for the quality supplied. France or UK or other nations have it nowhere as good, and that is not something that can be blamed on us. And other than sex, I think most other daily products and services are less expensive in the US than in EU. iPhone costs 10%to 20% more in Germany, LED TV likewise, and even a BMW is cheaper in the US. Are we really overpaying?
[URL]http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Germany/United-States/Cost-of-living[/URL]
ps. Thanks very much Ortos for the very kind words.
I really don't know about Sharks declining. During its alleged heyday of 2016 I visited three times and left without zimmering on any occasion. As Cane says, the club didn't work for me, and as Ortos says, maybe that's because of internal factors as well as external.
Now I visit Sharks ten times in its alleged decline and have plenty of girls on my to do list. Maybe my attitude has changed, or maybe the club is not in decline.
Maybe Sharks has been overhyped in the past and now we see reality more clearly.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2017426]In general, Hessen girls are better at cultivating relationships and creating chemistry with the customer. Some mongers here are transparent about their preferences and how much they spend. Having relationships with the WG outside the club. Doing five-hour rooms. Drinking alcohol in the lounge for three hours. Visiting them in Romania. Some even hint at AO. At the 50 EUR price point, NRW girls are much better value, but at the higher price points maybe not. I just don't think NRW clientele demand these luxury services, so the NRW WGs do not have the skills, experience, or comfort level to deliver them.
[/QUOTE]It's not that they are any better than cultivating relationships you find at other places. It's they get accustomed to clientele types in the way the games are played. Anywhere you go, you pay enough, the the business relationships becomes closer. You are right some guys take girls 5-10 hrs and this is something that is probably failed to mention by some guys, that changes things. Chemistry? Rapport?
I think when the place was starting to gather momentum was when lot of the core girls were new, and no 1 HR for service BS that's spreading in Hessen.
And again has to do with clientele types.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2017586]
Maybe Sharks has been overhyped in the past and now we see reality more clearly.[/QUOTE]Maybe, and maybe some guys have broken hearts because their favorite FKK wife moved on. Love wounds takes time to heal...
[QUOTE=Pistons;2017657]Maybe, and maybe some guys have broken hearts because their favorite FKK wife moved on. Love wounds takes time to heal...[/QUOTE]Can't see the forest thru the trees.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2017659]Can't see the forest thru the trees.[/QUOTE]Kung Fury: 23:45 (in cartoon world).
- Who the hell are you?
-- My name is Cobra. I have been expecting you Kung Fury. I am your spirit animal.
- What the hell is this place?
-- This is heaven. I'm afraid you are dead.
- What? But it looks so real!
-- YEAH! It's totally real.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2017657]Maybe, and maybe some guys have broken hearts because their favorite FKK wife moved on. Love wounds takes time to heal...[/QUOTE]Ah yes. Very shrewd. Every time a club special favorite moves on a club loses some of its lustre for some members (including on occasion, me).
I appreciate how the management are consistently upgrading the facilities available to us at Sharks, in particular I'm thinking of those large upstairs hot tubs which have replaced the previously redundant pool, that's a nice touch and something I've frequently utilised. Food has definitely improved since my last visit almost 12 months ago, having an extra large portion of (expensive) smoked salmon and perfectly cooked scrambled eggs for lunch last week was a real treat, that would have cost large chunk of my entrance fee if purchasing from a supermarket. Sure I'd like to be drinking my 6.00euro glass of beer from a glass as opposed to a plastic version plus the caves and cabins could definitely be better maintained and cleaned, so still loads of room for improvement I've recently observed.
[QUOTE=PokerWiesBaden;2017495]2015 was way better than now.
Summer 2016 it started, the girl's amount began to raise upto 200 or more.
Then the top girls starting to leave the club, because they don't make enough money.
Last Tuesday was like 90 girls and Wednesday over 100, and weekend over 100.
But much less men than before, because the most knows, Sharks is changing, and there is hardly top girls left.
And then new 100 deal, with DFK and so on. Only make it worse.
Bye bye Sharks![/QUOTE]Some busy top girls I knew, left or didn't stay because they didn't like some clients behavior asking all included for 50, or not respectful enough because Romanian girls. Some changed to easy Asian business, when they were not at all into when starting 1 year before and were even joking about.
Sharks new kind of clients just deserve WGs level they get. Top girls don't stay at World, except Raïssa, because of lack of business. Top girls won t stay at Sharks because of kind of clients and not only about money, but behavior. There are better and safer places for business for top girls and not only Globe or Aphrodisia Zurich. Some girls make very good business, being very busy, in some Turkish clubs or smaller clubs.
Anyway, can only wish for some high level girls to try Sharks. Wait and see. I think upselling depend on our behavior, no upselling with Mersi or Mandy or Stefi, my last new girls tried. Amelia and Eli proposed me 2 sisters for fantasy, but didn t tell about extra, 2 friendly and smiling girls, but not enough attractive faces to make me want them. Real lack of attractive faces for me at Sharks now.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2016987]Not seen since before Summer, but other beautiful tits: Rebeka looking a bit like Beatrice and may be same for upselling. Mersi. Hu with firm full tits and no upselling, Diana even they look a bit less full than before.[/QUOTE]I forgot amazing E cup Branda / Leya.
[QUOTE=Pentire;2017805] Sure I'd like to be drinking my 6.00euro glass of beer from a glass as opposed to a plastic version plus the caves and cabins could definitely be better maintained and cleaned, so still loads of room for improvement I've recently observed.[/QUOTE]Who really cares? Use what parts of the club you like, or go elsewhere. Never will be perfection. Is it tolerable? It's the girls that really matter.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2017802] Every time a club special favorite moves on a club loses some of its lustre for some members (including on occasion, me).[/QUOTE]You actually expressed it much better. When super favorite girls go, it can become a bit "Ho Hum" lacking the GFE or illusion levels, and can be time to hunt for special replacements at same club or elsewhere if nothing is too exciting.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2017826]Who really cares? Use what parts of the club you like, or go elsewhere. Never will be perfection. Is it tolerable? It's the girls that really matter.[/QUOTE]Of course it is the girls which matter most. State the obvious why don't you.
However, it's all nice to appreciate that in the recovery time between sessions, this club has some nice facilities to enjoy.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2017829]You actually expressed it much better. When super favorite girls go, it can become a bit "Ho Hum" lacking the GFE or illusion levels, and can be time to hunt for special replacements at same club or elsewhere if nothing is too exciting.[/QUOTE]May be you should stop with your favorite girls, this is just in between the ISG guys who try to get some adrenaline, I never take a girl because of the reports I just take her because I find her nice for my eyes, after what is happening in the room is between her and me, I don t need to report like the fisherman or hunting guys about the performances.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2017829]You actually expressed it much better. When super favorite girls go, it can become a bit "Ho Hum" lacking the GFE or illusion levels, and can be time to hunt for special replacements at same club or elsewhere if nothing is too exciting.[/QUOTE]I was told that Diana may or may not come back and that Dora has left for good.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2016987]Not seen since before Summer, but other beautiful tits: Rebeka looking a bit like Beatrice and may be same for upselling. Mersi. Hu with firm full tits and no upselling, Diana even they look a bit less full than before.[/QUOTE]Well, never met these girl at Sharks, my last visit is at January 2017.
Nastia has natural big tits but she become too skinny than November and Janine also have very nice boobs but never have session with her yet as she always booked all time by her sponsor.
Beatrice is upselling and not high level performer but she is truely stunning both her body and face. Is she come back to oase or retired?
[QUOTE=Amspascha;2018188]Well, never met these girl at Sharks, my last visit is at January 2017.
Nastia has natural big tits but she become too skinny than November and Janine also have very nice boobs but never have session with her yet as she always booked all time by her sponsor.
Beatrice is upselling and not high level performer but she is truely stunning both her body and face. Is she come back to oase or retired?[/QUOTE]No Beatrice back at Oase, nor Sharks, since Summer.
Mersi is small fresh cute blond GFE Hungarian with great full tits. Yes, Nastia should eat, not to compete with too thin Paloma.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2017806]Some busy top girls I knew, left or didn't stay because they didn't like some clients behavior asking all included for 50, or not respectful enough because Romanian girls. Some changed to easy Asian business, when they were not at all into when starting 1 year before and were even joking about.
Sharks new kind of clients just deserve WGs level they get. Top girls don't stay at World, except Rassa, because of lack of business. Top girls won t stay at Sharks because of kind of clients and not only about money, but behavior. There are better and safer places for business for top girls and not only Globe or Aphrodisia Zurich. Some girls make very good business, being very busy, in some Turkish clubs or smaller clubs.
Anyway, can only wish for some high level girls to try Sharks. Wait and see. I think upselling depend on our behavior, no upselling with Mersi or Mandy or Stefi, my last new girls tried. Amelia and Eli proposed me 2 sisters for fantasy, but didn t tell about extra, 2 friendly and smiling girls, but not enough attractive faces to make me want them. Real lack of attractive faces for me at Sharks now.[/QUOTE]The famous sisters: Elif and Amelia. It's quite an experience and they are so sweet! I think the younger one Elif is adorable in the session. With me she acted like a little sister. Listening to her older sister giving her guidance. The experience in itself is quite strange as they are real sisters. There are so many things that I wanted to try but still resisted as they are real sisters. Are they the hottest girl in the place? No but they are not the worse for sure. Just for the experience, it is worth to try.
Who is Mersi, Mandi or Stefi girl that you are referring to? Where do they sit and how do they look like? I am flying out tomorrow morning and after 12 hours of flight I definitely will be hitting Sharks in the evening. So on the lookout for some members' favorite top girls.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2017631]It's not that they are any better than cultivating relationships you find at other places. It's they get accustomed to clientele types in the way the games are played. Anywhere you go, you pay enough, the the business relationships becomes closer. You are right some guys take girls 5-10 hrs and this is something that is probably failed to mention by some guys, that changes things. Chemistry? Rapport?
I think when the place was starting to gather momentum was when lot of the core girls were new, and no 1 HR for service BS that's spreading in Hessen.
And again has to do with clientele types.[/QUOTE]I am the kind of guy to book my favorites for long sessions, so obviously the service I am getting is far better, I never stay 30 minutes with a girl, if with a new girl I think the chemistry is not what I was expecting I stop the session within 10 minutes pay 50 euros and it is all.
[QUOTE=LiveBoarding;2018322]The famous sisters: Elif and Amelia. It's quite an experience and they are so sweet! I think the younger one Elif is adorable in the session. With me she acted like a little sister. Listening to her older sister giving her guidance. The experience in itself is quite strange as they are real sisters. There are so many things that I wanted to try but still resisted as they are real sisters. Are they the hottest girl in the place? No but they are not the worse for sure. Just for the experience, it is worth to try.[/QUOTE]Elif is an older sister and definitely she is a leader.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2018411]Elif is an older sister and definitely she is a leader.[/QUOTE]Any additional info on these two would be much appreciated. I definitely am interested in seeking them out.
I'm interested in their looks, on the classic 1-10 scale. National origin, languages spoken, heights, ages, body descriptions. Any actresses resembled? Usual days of the week to find them at Sharks?
Any and every scrap of info would help. Even though there are higher recommended ladies on here (and I'll certainly be keeping a lookout for the likes of Mandy, Evita, Nikki, Mersi, even Betty if she's still around. See? I pay attention, gents), but the sisters fantasy is by far the most intriguing to me.
Thanks!
MCP.
[QUOTE=LiveBoarding;2018322]The famous sisters: Elif and Amelia. It's quite an experience and they are so sweet! I think the younger one Elif is adorable in the session. With me she acted like a little sister. Listening to her older sister giving her guidance. The experience in itself is quite strange as they are real sisters. There are so many things that I wanted to try but still resisted as they are real sisters. Are they the hottest girl in the place? No but they are not the worse for sure. Just for the experience, it is worth to try.
Who is Mersi, Mandi or Stefi girl that you are referring to? Where do they sit and how do they look like? I am flying out tomorrow morning and after 12 hours of flight I definitely will be hitting Sharks in the evening. So on the lookout for some members' favorite top girls.[/QUOTE]My best advice: go to girls who attract you. Others favorites have no interest if they don't attract your eyes.
For 2 sisters fantasy, I would go to Emily and Ana at Aca. I will go with 2 sisters, only if they are twins, then I would think I drank.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2018411]Elif is an older sister and definitely she is a leader.[/QUOTE]Funny as I didn't even remember who is who between when. Although Elif the older sister is more commanding, it was the younger sister that is more sensual and also the one that approached me. I would repeat with the younger one if I manage to get my time right.
Just got back from a long trip to Germany. I spent many days at Sharks and enjoyed every minute of it. I'm not sure how some of you went to Sharks un-popped. There were a few new faces that I didn't recognize. But since my favorite girls were there I stuck with them most of the time. Some notes:
[B]Tatiana[/B] – always have a great time with her. During this trip, we got to know each other more and she has actually improved in the room from even already an excellent session. She is going back to Romania tomorrow and may not be back for a few weeks. Hopefully she will be back when I go back to Sharks in a couple weeks.
Jnpr30 and I were able to coordinate and managed our time with her. On the second to last day of my trip, I made an appointment with her from 3-5 am. One of her client who hasn't seen her for a while came and she asked if she can move our appt to 4 am instead. No problem and I insisted on her to go see her other client. Of course, this dude, I know you are reading this, made me wait for her past 4 am. We didn't go to the room again until 4:27 am. So, the next day, he's back and wanted to see her again. Of course, I was going to take her the last couple hours before I had to leave the club. Since I was afraid he was going to keep her for a long time, I took her for almost the rest of her night. Sorry man, didn't mean to cock-blocking you. Since I may not see her for a while, I figure I try to get enough of her before she quits.
[B]Evita[/B] – I saw her everyday when I was there. She was graciously enough to fit me in her busy schedule while her loyal fans are there. Always have a nice time with her. She should be in the club for the next few weeks.
[B]Nicolette[/B] – one of the sweetest girl in the club. She is one of the few who never gave me any dramas or headaches about going with another girls. She actually smiled when she saw me going with Tatiana or Evita. One of the nicest girl in the club and she deserves better for what someone treated her. I promised to spend more time with her next time. She should be in the club until Sunday.
[B]Janine[/B] – I only saw her once this past two weekends, on Fri Apr 24th. Since Jnpr30 took Tatiana when I arrived (dude, what's up with that) and Evita was busy I took Janine instead. She was surprisingly sitting alone on the couch with no fans around. I couldn't really believe it. Not sure what happened to her fans that night but I scooped right in. I have been with her once, long time ago. Though she is better now with her skills and English, we didn't quite connect. So, I got out of the room way before 30 mins. I don't even remember when was the last time I did a 30 mins room.
[B]Steffi[/B] – On my last trip she got very upset with me for not taking her. When I arrived she didn't even want to look at me, at least that's what I thought. So, I didn't go with her this trip at all as I don't like any dramas. On the last day, she came to talk to me about something else. Anyhow, we patched things up and still remain friends. I can see that she has some business now. Good for her.
[B]Ester[/B] – only saw her on my very first day. I didn't see her the rest of my trip. I was surprised actually since I always see her at the club.
[B]Amira[/B] – while waiting for my favorite I actually took her. ROM, short blonde hair now, with a lot of tattoos in leg and shoulder, kind of tall and big build, must be DD size. She was nice in the room actually. I would recommend her, if you find her attractive.
Saw a couple ISG members in the club. Jnpr30, it was nice chatting with you and worked our schedule with Tatiana. I'm still amazed by your write up. Hope we can chat again next time. Also saw yamayama. It's funny that I didn't even notice him on the second day. He was walking down the stairs with Ebu and Tatiana and I were walking up. I was only focusing on the girl and Tatiana brought up to me that it was him, LOL.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2018601]Just got back from a long trip to Germany. I spent many days at Sharks and enjoyed every minute of it. I'm not sure how some of you went to Sharks un-popped. There were a few new faces that I didn't recognize. But since my favorite girls were there I stuck with them most of the time. Some notes:
[B]Tatiana[/B] always have a great time with her. During this trip, we got to know each other more and she has actually improved in the room from even already an excellent session. She is going back to Romania tomorrow and may not be back for a few weeks. Hopefully she will be back when I go back to Sharks in a couple weeks.
Jnpr30 and I were able to coordinate and managed our time with her. On the second to last day of my trip, I made an appointment with her from 3-5 am. One of her client who hasn't seen her for a while came and she asked if she can move our appt to 4 am instead. No problem and I insisted on her to go see her other client. Of course, this dude, I know you are reading this, made me wait for her past 4 am. We didn't go to the room again until 4:27 am. So, the next day, he's back and wanted to see her again. Of course, I was going to take her the last couple hours before I had to leave the club. Since I was afraid he was going to keep her for a long time, I took her for almost the rest of her night. Sorry man, didn't mean to cock-blocking you. Since I may not see her for a while, I figure I try to get enough of her before she quits.
[B]Evita[/B] I saw her everyday when I was there. She was graciously enough to fit me in her busy schedule while her loyal fans are there. Always have a nice time with her. She should be in the club for the next few weeks...[/QUOTE]Fully agree with you, if you are able to choose your arrival time before 7 PM Shark is really a great club with the biggest choice of girls in Germany, new girls every week, I don't know why some ISG members are complaining about this club and latter they go to places like F39 or Dietzen. Etc which are absolutely not playing in the same ligua.
[QUOTE=EnderW;2017960]I was told that Diana may or may not come back and that Dora has left for good.[/QUOTE]Are sure for Dora leaving for good? Dora is Model type girl from Moldova, tall blonde, skinny, little bit saggy tits. To my eyes, most beautiful girls at Sharks. We have no more chance to see her? Anyone have information where does Dora go?
Thanks Kirk for the info. So then to return from the club to the airport late at night (3 am) the only way is a taxi? I take it should be around 50 euros?
[QUOTE=KirkLazarus;2015205]If cost is not a concern, then taxi or car rental is best. It will give you flexibility of when to leave.
There's also the bus -.
Bus: Airliner (8. 45 euro) + are Bus (2. 10 euro).
- get the Airliner Bus at FRA terminal 1 (bustop 14) to Darmstadt HBF. It's 8. 45 euro.
- at Darmstadt HBF, take bus at platform for bus are going to Nordbahnhof. It's 2. 10 euro.
- get off at stop 8 "Daimlerweg" and look for a car dealership with taxis around and large Sharks billboard.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2018601][B]Steffi[/B] On my last trip she got very upset with me for not taking her. When I arrived she didn't even want to look at me, at least that's what I thought. So, I didn't go with her this trip at all as I don't like any dramas. On the last day, she came to talk to me about something else. Anyhow, we patched things up and still remain friends. I can see that she has some business now. Good for her.[/QUOTE]She also got offended with me once for the same reason. Steffi is a bit weird, she sits for hours on end at the bar with a towel wrapped around her waist and without any customers.
She seems down to earth, polite enough. What does she get offended at because when girls respond in a very negative manner when not taking them like you did something wrong is not tolerable. She's not busy probably due to her general service level, but she's usually occupied somebody for a good amount of time at the bar.
She has the potential to become busier.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2018804]She also got offended with me once for the same reason. Steffi is a bit weird, she sits for hours on end at the bar with a towel wrapped around her waist and without any customers.[/QUOTE]Natural, pretty look, quite friendly, fortunately for her, she didn't kiss, because if she did, she would have seen me returning. Friendly behavior in room.
She's a nice gal not the hunter type but will sit at her spot looking pretty and wait for you to approach once eye contact has been established.
Not many sweet girls like her at Sharks another one is Dora.
Yes, Dora seemed nice. Is she part of the under the tank group? Different from the others in the group?
Part of the tank group along with Diana.
Wonder if Patricia is still there tall skinny gypsy looking gal with black hair. Also a nice gal, LOL.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2018812]She's a nice gal not the hunter type but will sit at her spot looking pretty and wait for you to approach once eye contact has been established.
Not many sweet girls like her at Sharks another one is Dora.[/QUOTE]Yep Steffi a sweet and pretty girl unfortunately she doesn't give up any cent of her sweetness in room. Therefore she comes in heaven meanwhile other girls comes everywhere.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2018822]Yep Steffi a sweet and pretty girl unfortunately she doesn't give up any cent of her sweetness in room. Therefore she comes in heaven meanwhile other girls comes everywhere.[/QUOTE]Yeah I know. If she gave me more sweetness in the room she wud become one of my favs at Sharks.
Haven't been at the Shark tank in a while but doesn't seem like there are some new superstars born in my absence only 1 HR for kissing, LOL.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2018827]
Haven't been at the Shark tank in a while but doesn't seem like there are some new superstars born in my absence only 1 HR for kissing, LOL.[/QUOTE]Young Padawan during your trip through the FKK galaxy maybe you'll realise the difference of a "fresh from the bus" bargain and a "superstar". A superstar will give even at a more than an hour session only a light sample what she could do for you. From a fresh from the bus bargain you know already after 15 minutes everything.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2018836]Young Padawan during your trip through the FKK galaxy maybe you'll realise the difference of a "fresh from the bus" bargain and a "superstar". A superstar will give even at a more than an hour session only a light sample what she could do for you. From a fresh from the bus bargain you know already after 15 minutes everything.[/QUOTE]Master Craiova guess I still have a long way to go in order to bc a jedi. Superstars are able to use the mind trick, LOL.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2018822]Yep Steffi a sweet and pretty girl unfortunately she doesn't give up any cent of her sweetness in room. Therefore she comes in heaven meanwhile other girls comes everywhere.[/QUOTE]Nice turn of phrase, but I'm not quite following your meaning. Are you saying that her services are not up to par in the room, or merely that her personality changes and she puts on a more intense game face in the room.
I mean, it sounds like you meant it as a slight, but "she comes in heaven" sounds like something I'd want to experience personally.
Badinsweet, great report. You are too nice with your compliments, when you write just as well and often much better. Nice to have met you in the club. And thanks for the tip about Tatiana's schedules, or else I might have missed on one of the days I visited. As you say, she is a great gal. To me, she is cordon blue and not bigMac. I don't think taking her for a quick fifty and ramming in all holes will lead to a satisfactory session, for her or for the guy. In slower and longer sessions is when I savor her the most.
Next time I will take Nicolette and you take Magda, deal? With Tatiana leaving the club soon, we will have some additional bandwidth available, I am assuming. LOL.
Dora - Though I have only been with her once and the sessions was so-so, she is super nice outside the room. Eventhough she knows I have my regular she always come say Hi, smile, waive, etc. She is also very observant. She knows my routine, where I sit, before or after session, who I go with, how long, down to the exact process. I was very surprised by it. I even told Tatiana that I will go say "Hi" to Dora if I see her this past trip as I feel bad for such a nice girl. I hope it's not true that she left the club.
Steffi - She claimed she wasn't trying to ignore me. Anyhow, as stated, we talked for a bit and worked things out. I still like and care about her, as a friend. Last year, other than Tatiana, she was probably #2 girl who I spent the most money on.
Sorry for the very late post. Spent 3 consecutive days in Sharks and young Betty seems to be super busy, tried couple of times and service was excellent.
Also came across a girl who looked similar to (selxxx goxxz) from Maldova. Good service.
All the girls are from Romania / Maldova and they are rotated every 4 months to keep the variety and demand. I met couple of newbies to sharks from Austria FKK being transferred here!.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2018874]Steffi - She claimed she wasn't trying to ignore me. Anyhow, as stated, we talked for a bit and worked things out. I still like and care about her, as a friend. Last year, other than Tatiana, she was probably #2 girl who I spent the most money on.[/QUOTE]I appreciated you have been taking good care of Steffi, one of my most favorite gals anytime, in the past few month. I was the first one who tried to introduce her in ISG forum. Haven't seen her since last November, I am sorry to know that she could not get enough business she deserves. I'll re-visit Sharks in Mid-April and May, and try my best to help her some.
Is every Tuesday a lingerie day. Because when I bumped in during one Tuesday, I was surprised to everyone in lingerie which is kind of different visual compared to new born.
[QUOTE=Gulfcruise;2018904]All the girls are from Romania / Maldova and they are rotated every 4 months to keep the variety and demand. I met couple of newbies to sharks from Austria FKK being transferred here!.[/QUOTE]It confirms my guess that there are indeed corporations offering girls to clubs in a businesslike scale.
To think positively, they are like the legal human resource companies which help match foreign laborers and local employers.
To think negatively, anything we see in the plots in movies might be true.
[QUOTE=Gulfcruise;2018904]All the girls are from Romania / Maldova and they are rotated every 4 months to keep the variety and demand. I met couple of newbies to sharks from Austria FKK being transferred here!.[/QUOTE]I think you have a misunderstanding, there is nothing organized, the girls are freelance and they can stay in a club as long they wish some are there for more than 5 years others are living after 3 days just because they don't like the atmosphere of the club or they don't earn enough.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2018913]It confirms my guess that there are indeed corporations offering girls to clubs in a businesslike scale.
To think positively, they are like the legal human resource companies which help match foreign laborers and local employers.
To think negatively, anything we see in the plots in movies might be true.[/QUOTE]Really depends if you take GulfCruise on his word. But a bit of both and none is probably more towards the truth. Many clubs hardly trade out girls every 4 months. Thats a big LOL.
[QUOTE=GothFkk;2018683]Are sure for Dora leaving for good? Dora is Model type girl from Moldova, tall blonde, skinny, little bit saggy tits. To my eyes, most beautiful girls at Sharks. We have no more chance to see her? Anyone have information where does Dora go?[/QUOTE]Dora. Tall (170 cm) blond. Some thinks she is a Russian or from Moldova but she is actually from Romania. I was told that she has retired for good from the sex trade entirely. Yes, she is really nice and I am very happy for her.
[QUOTE=EnderW;2018981]Dora. Tall (170 cm) blond. Some thinks she is a Russian or from Moldova but she is actually from Romania. I was told that she has retired for good from the sex trade entirely. Yes, she is really nice and I am very happy for her.[/QUOTE]Thanks, but I'm sad to hear that. Now I hope everything is going well with her and be happy. And I lost the most motivation with Sharks. I don't need 100 LU, all I need is just 1 most favorite girl like Dora.
Is it time to retire Sharks? I need time to think it over.
[QUOTE=Gulfcruise;2018912]Is every Tuesday a lingerie day. Because when I bumped in during one Tuesday, I was surprised to everyone in lingerie which is kind of different visual compared to new born.[/QUOTE]Yes. Every Tuesday is a lingerie day at Sharks. Different clubs have different days. I too was there on a Tuesday three weeks back.
Is Dora the one with the Tinkerbell tattoo on one shoulder and the saggy but nicely shaped natural tits? Seated under the fishtank area most of the time?
[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2019121]Is Dora the one with the Tinkerbell tattoo on one shoulder and the saggy but nicely shaped natural tits? Seated under the fishtank area most of the time?[/QUOTE]Yes she is. She has left the club, maybe for good.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2018820]Wonder if Patricia is still there tall skinny gypsy looking gal with black hair. Also a nice gal, LOL.[/QUOTE]Didn't see her yesterday (Wednesday).
On my last three visits on Wednesdays I didn't see the two sisters anymore.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2019199]Didn't see her yesterday (Wednesday).[/QUOTE]Thanks last time I talked to her she told me she wud leave the biz in Mar.
[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2019121]Is Dora the one with the Tinkerbell tattoo on one shoulder and the saggy but nicely shaped natural tits? Seated under the fishtank area most of the time?[/QUOTE]Yes, you are correct.
[QUOTE=GothFkk;2019053]Thanks, but I'm sad to hear that. Now I hope everything is going well with her and be happy. And I lost the most motivation with Sharks. I don't need 100 LU, all I need is just 1 most favorite girl like Dora.
Is it time to retire Sharks? I need time to think it over.[/QUOTE]When I lost some favorites, I thought I would not find such girls, but I found new top girls. Easy life in brothels, even only few top girls, so have to work hard to find them.
To Badin, I prefer girls who don't like me, don't smile to me, don't come to me, because I prefer not to have sex with them, not give them my money. Better they go for sex with guys they prefer. I don't need these girls, as I don't need a prostitute who has sex with anybody, to say to me she miss me or love me, I just enjoy classy and sensual woman behavior with good body care, fresh breath, I think I became too much WGs tears specialist, not so fun.
[QUOTE=Mechelen;2019130]Yes she is. She has left the club, maybe for good.[/QUOTE]She definitely left for good from what I hear. A new life. Never coming back. She changed her numbers and all that. Let's wish her a happiness.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2018820]Wonder if Patricia is still there tall skinny gypsy looking gal with black hair. Also a nice gal, LOL.[/QUOTE]Definitely this is description of another Patricia that I know. Because the name is free I would assume that famous blonde siliconed Patricia (Moldova) is no more with Sharks. Correct?
[QUOTE=EnderW;2019245]She definitely left for good from what I hear. A new life. Never coming back. She changed her numbers and all that. Let's wish her a happiness.[/QUOTE]Over the last 10 years I saw so many girls telling me they will quit the P6 business for ever and 6 months or 1/2 years latter, they came back just because they lost a big part of their savings in a shop, in a disastrous marriage.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2019335]Definitely this is description of another Patricia that I know. Because the name is free I would assume that famous blonde siliconed Patricia (Moldova) is no more with Sharks. Correct?[/QUOTE]Blond Patricia now silicon was at Sharks on February. Long time at Sharks, sweet girl.
How bad is the dessous day? I am really not a fan of it but I am going to land on Tue. Are at least half of the girls naked? If not, I'll skip Tue.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2019206]On my last three visits on Wednesdays I didn't see the two sisters anymore.[/QUOTE]That is a shame. I will miss having both on their knees whilst each sucks on one of my balls. Heaven.
Haven't seen Gloriana for a while. She is Romanian / Hungarian, about 27 y/ o, classic, brunette, slim, tall (170 cm), be or see cup, vey nice GFE style girl.
Any information about her would be highly appreciated.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2019335]Definitely this is description of another Patricia that I know. Because the name is free I would assume that famous blonde siliconed Patricia (Moldova) is no more with Sharks. Correct?[/QUOTE]That would be a loss if she is gone. Allways smiling as she was. Blonde moldavian Patricia (Julia's friend) is still on my tryout list 😕
I've gone with Julia a few times even though we have no chemistry at all. But Patricia on the other hand oozes great chemistry, but I never tried. Funny how that works sometimes...
Pistons. Patricia from Moldavia was there last week and said she was staying. Very nice woman
[QUOTE=EnderW;2019223]Yes, you are correct.[/QUOTE]Well, best of luck to her. She was a sweet girl, but my one session with her was lackluster; might have been an off day for her, bad chemistry, or something else.
I thought one was Patrizia and the other Patricia. When the tall leggy one introduced herself to me, I asked her isn't there another WG with that name? She corrected me. Tried the older silicone MILF. Her pre-silicone days. Unrushed service. Old-school provider. Never got around to the younger leggier one.
[QUOTE=SaratogaX;2019396] Are at least half of the girls naked? If not, I'll skip Tue.[/QUOTE]No. All girls are wearing lingerie or a bikini. Wait until Wednesday.
Fake-blonde Patricia with fake tits from Moldavia I didn't meet on my last two visits to Sharks on Wednesdays. Since Optimist was there until last Tuesday in March, maybe that was her last day before she left for easter holidays (that is what I assume). The other Patrizia, long dark hair with blonde streaks, told me she comes from Timisoara in Romania. I last saw her and talked to her end of March.
With names, it is getting bit complicated at Sharks. I met two new romanians with fake tits, one said she is Vicky, the other one said her name is Jasmine. Two hours later they told other guys different names. Vicky then called herself Natalia.
The black-haired sister of Lavinia showed up at Sharks. She has been out of this business for quite some time. Her former name at FKK-World was Simona / Enya. Her new name I don't remember. A new 19 year old blonde girl claims to come from London, her name is Electra. She has two big size natural arguments you won't overlook while listening to the fake stories of her origin!
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2019602]The black-haired sister of Lavinia showed up at Sharks. She has been out of this business for quite some time. Her former name at FKK-World was Simona / Enya.[/QUOTE]Simona sounds familiar. Was she perhaps blonde at World, is from Poland and does she have big natural tits?
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2019651]Simona sounds familiar. Was she perhaps blonde at World, is from Poland and does she have big natural tits?[/QUOTE]If she is Lavinia's sister how can she be Polish?
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2019657]If she is Lavinia's sister how can she be Polish?
HB.[/QUOTE]Sisters in arms. I expected you knew this.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2019716]Sisters in arms. I expected you knew this.[/QUOTE]Antonella know if in Sharks FKK are there any flexible girl Like ballerina or gymnast, able to do sex in acrobatic positions?
[QUOTE=Pistons;2019716]Sisters in arms. I expected you knew this.[/QUOTE]It was said that they are biological sisters. I expected you knew this.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2019835]It was said that they are biological sisters. I expected you knew this.
HB.[/QUOTE]So many sisters in brothels. When I discovered Isabella at Sharks on February 2014, they said with Laura / Livia they are sisters and proposed me to have both. Of course, I chose natural beauty Isabella, she never proposed me again to go with her and her brothels sister, she even became Romanian later at World but living in Italy, now she is a real Romanian living in Romania, with a beautiful real name. More than 3 years with her, at Sharks, World and now Globe.
Most of Romanian prostitutes seem to be sisters for job in brothels. But I never saw twins, as I met Russian twins as escorts.
Amalia and Eli look like sisters, that s how I noticed them, not for their beauty even they are not ugly.
Emily and Ana at Aca, don t look so much, maybe because Ana is fake blond.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2019835]It was said that they are biological sisters. I expected you knew this.
HB.[/QUOTE]The human race is all related. You didn't know? Hehe.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2019917]The human race is all related. You didn't know? Hehe.[/QUOTE]Be careful not to be accused of inzest then.
HB.
With all the news that girls are retiring I am happy for them and a little sad at the same time that I won't be seeing them again. [B]Dora[/B], who recently retired?, [B]Helli[/B] who I have not seen for ages, [B]Ilka[/B] and [B]Karin[/B] disappeared. So, we should enjoy them while they are still there. I wish them all well.
Hence this brings me to the point with [B]Tatiana[/B] who will most likely be away after she graduates in June. It turns out that she is still in FRA and will actually be at the club today. Please treat her well and I am sure you will have a nice time with her. One of my all-time (and Jnpr30) favorite. Wish I could be back this weekend.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2019964]Be careful not to be accused of inzest then.
HB.[/QUOTE]God and his army of angels are working hard to solve that issue. Work is in progress!
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2020095]With all the news that girls are retiring I am happy for them and a little sad at the same time that I won't be seeing them again. [B]Dora[/B], who recently retired?, [B]Helli[/B] who I have not seen for ages, [B]Ilka[/B] and [B]Karin[/B] disappeared. So, we should enjoy them while they are still there. I wish them all well.
Hence this brings me to the point with [B]Tatiana[/B] who will most likely be away after she graduates in June. It turns out that she is still in FRA and will actually be at the club today. Please treat her well and I am sure you will have a nice time with her. One of my all-time (and Jnpr30) favorite. Wish I could be back this weekend.[/QUOTE]Ilka and Karin the body, didn't like Sharks and some clients behavior. Same for Alice / Kate who is too high level for Sharks and deserves higher business she gets.
Aylice. Bu also left Sharks, even she was sometimes booked for 3 days along, which other girl can compete with small Bulgarian princess? A real candy, for her kindness.
Pretty Rena. Ro also left, tornado Roberta. Ro from Zurich didn't stay, same for Leila.
All top level girls without faintest upselling.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2020]Same for Alice / Kate who is too high level for Sharks and deserves higher business she gets.[/QUOTE]Yes sure. The princess was too good for German clubs, she deserves to be fucked by old fat Swiss instead of old fat Germans.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2020183]Yes sure. The princess was too good for German clubs, she deserves to be fucked by old fat Swiss instead of old fat Germans.
HB.[/QUOTE]Its all about the money unless old fat swiss more classy 😂.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2020131]Ilka and Karin the body, didn't like Sharks and some clients behavior. Same for Alice / Kate who is too high level for Sharks and deserves higher business she gets.
Aylice. Bu also left Sharks, even she was sometimes booked for 3 days along, which other girl can compete with small Bulgarian princess? A real candy, for her kindness.
Pretty Rena. Ro also left, tornado Roberta. Ro from Zurich didn't stay, same for Leila.
All top level girls without faintest upselling.[/QUOTE]I had my first Zurich visit last year on November and founded Ilka was at Club Aphrodisia with her new name.
I had visited Aphro and Globe, but very disappointed in reality. The Club Aphrodisia is with good location and nice decoration but, I find the girls here were so normal level, and most of them not young, maybe I had bad luck lose to see the 10's and 11's. I had seen a "10's girl" with her name mentioned by a member on ISG but she truely even not a 7. I go there 2 times but only had some drink with no session. I think Ilka and another 25 yo Romanian girl are the best but the rest line up is below good German FKK. But Ilka has lost her innocent feeling when I met her when she had just 1 week at Sharks, and with the triple price in Zurich.
GLOBE I had only one visit but also didn't find nothing special. Maybe also not lucky. At least I didn't see Andrea which is a confirmed stunner young princess also have photos with face in the website.
The line up is not big, the food is high quality and the non-stop stripshow I like it so much. Which can see the girls very closely.
But, I could not find the legendary 10's or 11's. The ladies there were also generally from 24 yo, 25 yo or more, from my point of view the most beautiful girl that day is a romanian girl named ANDRA but also with excess make up and not young also without a good attitude and feeling.
I had only one session with a german lady with a gorgeous body, she was a fitness trainer.
So, I truely prefer German FKK considered in CH, with the double price or more for everything: living, food, entrance and the girls.
Maybe I just have bad luck for Globe, but other places in Zurich will never visit again.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2020183]Yes sure. The princess was too good for German clubs, she deserves to be fucked by old fat Swiss instead of old fat Germans.
HB.[/QUOTE]These old guys from German speaking countries were the little Kings of the world. Before they fucked Russian or other Slavonian ladies and now the Romanian / Bulgarian / Others young, pretty even many close to or are Model, Movie star level ladies for 50--100 euro or little more for their GFE service, watched there naked body, play game and telling them their excellent life stories everyday, also enjoyed prepared food with no need for cooking, servants or old people's home.
[QUOTE=Amspascha;2020202]These old guys from German speaking countries were the little Kings of the world. Before they fucked Russian or other Slavonian ladies and now the Romanian / Bulgarian / Others young, pretty even many close to or are Model, Movie star level ladies for 50--100 euro or little more for their GFE service, watched there naked body, play game and telling them their excellent life stories everyday, also enjoyed prepared food with no need for cooking, servants or old people's home :))[/QUOTE]Your description of FKKs being old peoples homes made me laugh out loud. You are quite right.
What other place has food cooked for you, someone cleaning the place (many reports mention cleanliness), provides entertainment like TV undisturbed by girls like at Oase, and if you happen to feel like it, one can go fuck one girl for 50 euro and then forget about her.
The perfect old peoples home with beautiful girls instead of old, grey women in real life old peoples homes.
Seriously, paying discount entry at Oase or the multi entry card entries at Oase and Sharks means the cost to house old folks is cheaper than using the special care homes between the hours of 10am to 5am the next day at Oase and even 11am to 5am at Sharks. Ok these hours are the same for each day of the week but is a long time where care is provided to customers. Old folks care homes cannot compete with such prices.
To continue that narrative, a couple of Sunday afternoons back, there was this mature obese guy lounging on the sofa close to the safe boxes, what a grotesque sight, he remained there impersonating a gurning toby jug during my entire four hour attendance🤤.
No doubt some characters are merely content to pay their admission fee in order to view the nakedness on display🎟.
Hey,
Have you noticed that only FKKs from Hessen have more than 10,000 reports, even though extras are twice more expensive? What does it say? That ISG is an international forum and Hessen FKKs are easier to reach? Whatever.
So I came back to Sharks for Nastia, she was the only very very pretty girl this Saturday. Compared to 2 weeks ago the LU slightly declined and Janine was still missing, I don't think she will be present during the we, like last year I think. It seems Ebu state of mind is improving.
Other stuffs: they put a big sign to indicate where the massage rooms are. With so much rooms at Sharks I don't think there will be waiting queue anymore, GT should take a lesson from it. What Sharks should do now is rooms where we could sleep.
[QUOTE=Pentire;2020222]To continue that narrative, a couple of Sunday afternoons back, there was this mature obese guy lounging on the sofa close to the safe boxes, what a grotesque sight, he remained there impersonating a gurning toby jug during my entire four hour attendance.
No doubt some characters are merely content to pay their admission fee in order to view the nakedness on display🎟.[/QUOTE]My vocab may be weak, but I had to look up WTF is a "gurning toby jug". Do people actually like that stuff and buy it? LOL.
Plenty of old ugly guys at an FKK. You have to develop your ability to focus on a few gorgeous girls, and almost fail to notice all the rest as far as possible. Even the plain faced girls hardly register for me at Sharks, due to disinterest, and so many look so similar to each other.
Why think about a customer if you have no interaction with him? Makes little sense to me. Some guys complain about the Turks in attendance or the Asian tourists. I just don't care unless they are noisy and disturbing the peace, or stink badly.
Concentrate, focus! The beautiful girls. That is what it is all about. A fat ugly guy is not so interesting or bothersome. I think the more experienced you get in FKK, the more you learn to tolerate things not perfect and ignore lots of stuff.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2020205]Your description of FKKs being old peoples homes made me laugh out loud. You are quite right.
[/QUOTE]With entrance fees getting lower and lower due to heavy competition it is true. Unfortunately. Instead of a place with humming sexual vibes, pretty girls and Horny Harry's who want to fuck 2, 3 or 4 girls some clubs transformed to senior citizens homes or spas with a high percentage of male guests just showing up to eat, talk, relax, block and touch some girls for free. Rom in Altmünster is down to 12,50€ including F&be, that's cheaper than cooking at home. So from 12 until 8 pm the average guest ist about 60 years old, from 8 pm you feel like in Istanbul.
Sharks with cheap Wednesdays and Sundays or World with cheap Wednesdays, lottery and specials before 1 pm are getting there as well.
Globe: hardware is nothing special, same level as Oase, rooms worse and overall dirtier. Line up is ok, maybe in average better than one of the big Hessen clubs, but not in overall numbers of pretty girls. Service is better at a higher price, more than double the German rate.
HB.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2020205]
Seriously, paying discount entry at Oase or the multi entry card entries at Oase and Sharks means the cost to house old folks is cheaper than using the special care homes between the hours of 10am to 5am the next day at Oase and even 11am to 5am at Sharks. Ok these hours are the same for each day of the week but is a long time where care is provided to customers. Old folks care homes cannot compete with such prices.[/QUOTE]I would indeed like to retire to an Old People's home like this, although perhaps Oase is better with it's relax room.
Only problem is the issue of closing time till opening time. Clubs should have a cheap dormitory with camp stretcher beds for customers to use between closing and opening time, not too expensive. Ear plugs would be essential. Then we could stay in the club for a whole week and not go anywhere.
Siri would have alternative from sleep in his igloo car. It's okay for guys not the tallest maybe.
You could share a camper with some other retired mongers.
HB.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2020232]I would indeed like to retire to an Old People's home like this, although perhaps Oase is better with it's relax room.
Only problem is the issue of closing time till opening time. Clubs should have a cheap dormitory with camp stretcher beds for customers to use between closing and opening time, not too expensive. Ear plugs would be essential. Then we could stay in the club for a whole week and not go anywhere.
Siri would have alternative from sleep in his igloo car. It's okay for guys not the tallest maybe.[/QUOTE]Also, Oase is not wheelchair accessible throughout the "home". This too must be addressed. Installation of an elevator would help. But then of course, that would probably drive up the entry fee in order to pay for the construction.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2020230]
Plenty of old ugly guys at an FKK. You have to develop your ability to focus on a few gorgeous girls, and almost fail to notice all the rest as far as possible.
Concentrate, focus! The beautiful girls. That is what it is all about. A fat ugly guy is not so interesting or bothersome. I think the more experienced you get in FKK, the more you learn to tolerate things not perfect and ignore lots of stuff.[/QUOTE]Yes that's good advice and now the nice weather is arriving, I'll just relax outside, close my eyes while recharging the pods between sessions.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2020234]You could share a camper with some other retired mongers.
HB.[/QUOTE]There are guys already doing this. Sometimes you see camper vans parked in the FKK car park. Then at opening time you see men come out of the camper van to go into the club to wash up.
Camper van may be one step up from Siri's igloo car since at least camper van has a dedicated place for one to go for a shit or pass water in the middle of the night.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2020231]With entrance fees getting lower and lower due to heavy competition it is true.[/QUOTE]One club in NRW even had temporary free entry in happy hour after their club opening, if my memory serves me right.
And many other clubs in NRW, with constant low entries between 20-40, also provide foods and facilities that is on par with Hesse big 5.
There's no other spas or wellness centers in this world that provide all-you-can-eat foods and all-you-can-use facilities and still costs less than 20 Euros.
German clubs with unlimited food and facilities, and with entries lower than 20, are world miracles.
So, I can somehow relate to the older retired guys, who get in the clubs without taking any girls, just eat, drink, use sauna, relax all day.
I may do the exact same thing if I'm old, retired, not eager to fuck girls anymore, and rely on a constant pension.
Hopefully, taking advantage of the low entry without taking any girls will not be seen as exploiting the club.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2020243]There are guys already doing this. Sometimes you see camper vans parked in the FKK car park. Then at opening time you see men come out if the camper van to go into the club to wash up.
Camper van may be one step up from Siri's igloo car since at least camper van has a dedicated place for one to go for a shit or pass water in the middle of the night.[/QUOTE]Just need a headlight and then dig a and shit like cats, LOL.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2020247]Just need a headlight and then dig a hole and shit like cats, LOL.[/QUOTE]In the FKK car park where one parks their car and walks.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2020232]
Siri would have alternative from sleep in his igloo car. It's okay for guys not the tallest maybe.[/QUOTE]Know of a few guys who do this. Some over 180 cm tall. In four door cars, the rear seats fold down, sometimes to the point where the body can lay completely flat. Lower half of body is in the car's storage space. Some sleep at rest area with WC.
It makes sense if you are committing to spending about 18 hours in a single club. Or do multiple clubs per day.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2020231]With entrance fees getting lower and lower due to heavy competition it is true. Unfortunately. Instead of a place with humming sexual vibes, pretty girls and Horny Harry's who want to fuck 2, 3 or 4 girls some clubs transformed to senior citizens homes or spas with a high percentage of male guests just showing up to eat, talk, relax, block and touch some girls for free. Rom in Altmnster is down to 12,50 including F&be, that's cheaper than cooking at home. So from 12 until 8 pm the average guest ist about 60 years old, from 8 pm you feel like in Istanbul.
Sharks with cheap Wednesdays and Sundays or World with cheap Wednesdays, lottery and specials before 1 pm are getting there as well.
[/QUOTE]That's the case, cheaper options draws the higher age local clients or Turkish, and their attendance depends on which hrs. And more competition, and to pull in clients means they have to take measures, foods, discount specials etc.
At the NRW, depending on day or night time, clientele change. I recall the entry special occurs at 8 pm on-wards in Shalom back in the days, and the vibe changes to a discotik. F39 was mainly a daytime club with older clientele. RTCs probably have clients on the older side as well.
Aca, you see more Germans during the day and Turkish at night.
GT is more of a daytime club, so the avg age is high as well. What do you expect from guys that shows during the day during a work week?
If there is a discount special at night, and the club opens fairly late, chances are the night time clientele will fill with Turkish.
Some clubs at the NRW, their business depends on the Turkish clients by offering low entry, and it shows there is a high market for them in certain parts. Just not the market for a bulk of then to pay high entry prices.
It's like the Turkish are out for a discotik time as they attend during the night. Most Turkish clubs have a bit of an atmosphere, loud music, etc.
All of this makes sense as avg age of Turkish clientele will be lower, and generally, German locals are on the avg older.
Chances are, local clients are not there to do multitude of rooms. More distanced guys are most likely.
The downtime is not just closing time to opening time. Guys assume that they can do this day after day, 365 days a year? Even the most hardcore monger could never keep up. Do it non-stop for a just one year, may be two tops, and a naked girl looks as exciting as my old wicker chair, LOL. (God, I hope I never get that jaded).
One girl I was talking to said she hates the clubs because she is in there so much, and all the smoke, lack of sunlight (even with the garden right next) etc is making her skin age at 3 times normal rate. And she is a smoker!
If I lived in Germany alone and in retirement, I could visit the club every third or fourth day at best on an ongoing, long term basis. Meaning for several years. More frequent than that, I will get sick of the place, perhaps even literally.
I don't think it's the lack of sun making her age quicker.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2020255]Know of a few guys who do this. Some over 180 cm tall. In four door cars, the rear seats fold down, sometimes to the point where the body can lay completely flat. Lower half of body is in the car's storage space. Some sleep at rest area with WC.
It makes sense if you are committing to spending about 18 hours in a single club. Or do multiple clubs per day.[/QUOTE]May be but there are so many alternative cheap hotel around 25 euros near the clubs.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2020267]That's the case, cheaper options draws the higher age local clients or Turkish, and their attendance depends on which hrs. And more competition, and to pull in clients means they have to take measures, foods, discount specials etc.
At the NRW, depending on day or night time, clientele change. I recall the entry special occurs at 8 pm on-wards in Shalom back in the days, and the vibe changes to a discotik. F39 was mainly a daytime club with older clientele. RTCs probably have clients on the older side as well.
Aca, you see more Germans during the day and Turkish at night.
GT is more of a daytime club, so the avg age is high as well. What do you expect from guys that shows during the day during a work week?..[/QUOTE]Also true for World, many senior German man visiting the club every day just to drink, sauna, eat and may be one session for 50 euros once a week.
What can work however is something Syz proposed. Attach a real men's dorm to the club. I prefer a higher end facility and not a simple dorm. If the dorm is too basic and low end, you could not live there also long term, but if the living facilities are sufficiently high end, you could make it your permanent place. A nice room + cafeteria, some recreational things in the common lounges, a small movie screening room, and a large FKK club attached. The club already has the pool and gardens. You could pop into the club whenever you want. Very similar to a retirement communities built on golf courses in the US, with the club replacing golf here. Could rent the room at ~2 or 3 thousand a month, with an additional fee for the dining plan, and FKK entry included.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2020277]I don't think it's the lack of sun making her age quicker.[/QUOTE]Of course the sun is accelerating the aging of the skin, now staying many days in the dark space of the bar, smoking, doing things that you don't like, spending hours waiting customers is not creating a favorable environment to feel you relax and therefor it can negatively impact your health status and your skin.
When I went to Wellcum in Austria, they told me it facilities was a hotel and a club. It's integrated, and you can book rooms. I've seen combo specials.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2020267]All of this makes sense as avg age of Turkish clientele will be lower, and generally, German locals are on the avg older.[/QUOTE]Germany has the third highest median age after Monaco and Japan who are first and second respectively. Turkey by contrast has the 110th median aged country.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_median_age[/URL]
The median German man has an age of 45.7 years and the median Turk man has a median age of 30.1 years.
As for German women the median age is 47.9 years. This may explain why many writers complain that the German women always seem older.
This statistic implies that the general view that FKKs have an older German clientele makes sense and that there must be more provision for the elderly in Germany. If anything there is a social policy that FKK are promoted and not obstructed in providing senior citizens homes for old, fat and grey haired German men.
Anyone know if this girl is still at Sharks? Saw her last October at Oase and she then moved to Sharks. Long Sandy Blonde hair past mid back, small perky be's and wears glasses. Some freckles on her face if memory serves me.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2020297]When I went to Wellcum in Austria, they told me it facilities was a hotel and a club. It's integrated, and you can book rooms. I've seen combo specials.[/QUOTE]Customers even go to the club proper, pick a girl and then take them back to their rented room to fuck instead of using the main club's rooms. The men's rented rooms have shower facilities and is more quiet and presumably more private.
This is better on party nights in the club when the club is packed with men like New Years Eve or other such events.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2020277]I don't think it's the lack of sun making her age quicker.[/QUOTE]It is probably the lack of facials and pearl necklaces.
I'm show up at Sharks today, try to ask around who is Tatiana? But can't find her, anybody give me some details about her appearance and the location which is the norm place of her?
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2020276]If I lived in Germany alone and in retirement, I could visit the club every third or fourth day at best on an ongoing, long term basis. Meaning for several years.[/QUOTE]You are describing the guys we see in the clubs all the time we go, even your young Turk guy who is in the club every time you are in the club.
[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2020226]What Sharks should do now is rooms where we could sleep.[/QUOTE]This is not really critical. I can sleep 400 m away in Contel. Because you can leave the club and return I often take a couple of hours in the hotel to check my correspondence and do some work between the rooms. I don't think guests room in the club would be more affordable than Contel. Sometimes I stay overnight in hotel room in Harem (Padeborn). I pay 80 Euros per night. This does not include club fee. I don't see any reason why hypothetical guest rooms in Sharks could be cheaper than in Harem.
What Sharks' management really have to do is to install air-conditioners in all rooms. Climate changing. Last two summers in Hesse were too hot.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2020434]This is not really critical. I can sleep 400 m away in Contel. Because you can leave the club and return I often take a couple of hours in the hotel to check my correspondence and do some work between the rooms. I don't think guests room in the club would be more affordable than Contel. Sometimes I stay overnight in hotel room in Harem (Padeborn). I pay 80 Euros per night. This does not include club fee. I don't see any reason why hypothetical guest rooms in Sharks could be cheaper than in Harem.
What Sharks' management really have to do is to install air-conditioners in all rooms. Climate changing. Last two summers in Hesse were too hot.[/QUOTE]At World, to sleep where girls are fucked from 4 to 11 am, cost 100, without a girl and without entry on next day, but with sex smell.
[QUOTE=Popeye2017;2020380]I'm show up at Sharks today, try to ask around who is Tatiana? But can't find her, anybody give me some details about her appearance and the location which is the norm place of her?[/QUOTE]If she was working and you didn't notice her, it means you were not attracted by her look, so, go to girls who attract you. I never came to speak with Tatiana, even smiling and looks friendly, but too teeny look for me. I prefer women.
Sharks should do what World does and rent out 4-5 of the standard rooms after they close in the morning for customers to sleep in. They would of course have to charge very considerably less than Contel.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2018908]I appreciated you have been taking good care of Steffi, one of my most favorite gals anytime, in the past few month. I was the first one who tried to introduce her in ISG forum. Haven't seen her since last November, I am sorry to know that she could not get enough business she deserves. I'll re-visit Sharks in Mid-April and May, and try my best to help her some.[/QUOTE]Steffi was there on last Wednesday, I had quick 30 min room with her then. I also saw her on last Saturday night, but went with someone else instead of her.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2020484]At World, to sleep where girls are fucked from 4 to 11 am, cost 100, without a girl and without entry on next day, but with sex smell.[/QUOTE]I would assume without wi-fi as well. Correct?
World, Sharks and AFAIK Rom do not have WiFi. Palace, Oase and Mainhattan do.
HB.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2020392]You are describing the guys we see in the clubs all the time we go, even your young Turk guy who is in the club every time you are in the club.[/QUOTE]It seems the situation now for FKK land has given us a ideal plan for a stable "mongering" even for "retirement and the rest men life".
But, I believe everything will change First, FKK industry benefited and developed by the German law which make prostitution legal. But nobody would say this will never change. Even it gives big contribution to the fiscal revenue.
The most important thing is, IMHO, overall, the "mongering world" is becoming worse gradually, even if consider the whole world.
Good talents becoming less, price up, we average person each day more difficult to get a good girl laid even with "Not a lot money". The internet and technology also make the market disperse. And most important reason is the negative growth of population all around the world. The gap between the rich and poor growing fast due to less war and conflict, so, good resource will be monopolized.
So, maybe we would have more luck when we were the "regular old clients" or never have the fortune of the mature, old German / Swiss uncles and daddys. I started FKK from 2013, but I believe some years before are the "silver, golden time" but not now and may also not the future.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2020691]I would assume without wi-fi as well. Correct?[/QUOTE]Never have to run after Wi-Fi. In France, we have professional lines with unlimited calls nearly all over the world and unlimited internet, for 80 € per month, so I don't care about Wi-Fi in clubs, or in my car on autobahns where I spend so many hours, when I have to work between Germany or Switzerland and Paris.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2018804]She also got offended with me once for the same reason. Steffi is a bit weird, she sits for hours on end at the bar with a towel wrapped around her waist and without any customers.[/QUOTE]When I asked her why she always has towel wrapped, she said she was cold and pulled my hand to touch her so I could feel the coldness. It did feel cold. However, she told me that her pussy would not be cold if I took her. LOL.
[QUOTE=Amspascha;2020755]It seems the situation now for FKK land has given us a ideal plan for a stable "mongering" even for "retirement and the rest men life".
But, I believe everything will change First, FKK industry benefited and developed by the German law which make prostitution legal. But nobody would say this will never change. Even it gives big contribution to the fiscal revenue.
The most important thing is, IMHO, overall, the "mongering world" is becoming worse gradually, even if consider the whole world.
Good talents becoming less, price up, we average person each day more difficult to get a good girl laid even with "Not a lot money". The internet and tecnology also make the market disperse. And most important reason is the negative growth of population all around the world. The gap between the rich and poor growing fast due to less war and conflict, so, good resource will be monopolized.
So, maybe we would have more luck when we were the "regular old clients" or never have the fortune of the mature, old German / Swiss uncles and daddys. I started FKK from 2013, but I believe some years before are the "silver, golden time" but not now and may also not the future.[/QUOTE]I don't fully agree with you, in the last years in most of the clubs roumanian girls are may be representing 90% of the LU and for me the service is far better than before, those girls are sweeter. I remember in 2006/07/08/09 if you were not happy you sessioned a german girl and most probably she will be rude and not at the level of the roumanian girls, at least this is my opinion.
[QUOTE=Amspascha;2020199]I had my first Zurich visit last year on November and founded Ilka was at Club Aphrodisia with her new name.
I had visited Aphro and Globe, but very disappointed in reality. The Club Aphrodisia is with good location and nice decoration but, I find the girls here were so normal level, and most of them not young, maybe I had bad luck lose to see the 10's and 11's. I had seen a "10's girl" with her name mentioned by a member on ISG but she truely even not a 7. I go there 2 times but only had some drink with no session. I think Ilka and another 25 yo Romanian girl are the best but the rest line up is below good German FKK. But Ilka has lost her innocent feeling when I met her when she had just 1 week at Sharks, and with the triple price in Zurich.
GLOBE I had only one visit but also didn't find nothing special. Maybe also not lucky. At least I didn't see Andrea which is a confirmed stunner young princess also have photos with face in the website.
The line up is not big, the food is high quality and the non-stop stripshow I like it so much. Which can see the girls very closely..[/QUOTE]Thanks for your news about Ilka. Ro, even Aphrodisia with coke party is not for me. I wish Ilka will stay away from coke party to make guys not able to fuck. If you have been there, you know rates: 280 for 30 mn, 500 for 1 hour, 100 for coke for girl, 200 for coke for guy. Even not the prettiest at this time at Sharks, even not the best performer, but after Alice / Katalina left on 18 April 2016, Ilka was the classiest at Sharks for sophisticated look and manners. On mid June, we smiled to each other in the afternoon. In the evening, when she went out of lockers, she went to me, smiling, she took my hand and said: you come with me? We went in the garden, it was night, we had a very sweet chat and went to a chalet. She was a great GFE and a real woman for her manners. Of course, I repeated with her on next week end, and also on week end after on 3 July, after sexy tornado Roberta. Ro coming from Zurich but not staying, when Ilka said to me she wanted to leave Sharks because she didn't like clients. Just behaving like a normal respectful guy, it was just easy with a woman like Ilka, like it was easy with top class woman Katalina. Ro who returned to Globe. When Katalina recognized me at Globe before I recognized her with her new hair color, she went straight to me, saying: I remember how you treated me at Sharks. How a very busy Globe superstar was always free for me. Once she was not, she went after, I answered I didn't want, but her classy behavior with me worth my 420 €, 1 h30, many rooms, when our discovery at Sharks was for 2 hours for 2 rounds. Also my for 3 years Isabella ex Oase, Sharks, World, for 560 € rooms, and top pole dancer, not a monkey on pole, Stefi. Ro, what a lovely GF, even had to explain to her I couldn't repeat with her, not at all because of her, but because I was already not able to manage between Kate and Isabella. Anyway, great Summer and Autumn at Globe. Bad, no more warm swimming pool now.
History Liestal was also great for casting on this Winter, with 99/30 mn, Ada worked there, Lorena is great GFE. Mady also, working at History or Globe.
[QUOTE=Amspascha;2020755]It seems the situation now for FKK land has given us a ideal plan for a stable "mongering" even for "retirement and the rest men life".[/QUOTE]Exactly.
I have to work 20+ more years before I can retire, but I have been planning to move to FKK sex land after my retirement already. LOL.
Germany should open some special immigration programs for foreign FKK Sauna clubs lovers.
Some German exchange students come to my country and say that they prefer my country. I think they're crazy. Germany should kick them out and let me in. LOL.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2020484]At World, to sleep where girls are fucked from 4 to 11 am, cost 100, without a girl and without entry on next day, but with sex smell.[/QUOTE]Can you invite a woman to sleep with you?
What's the price for sleeping together without fucking?
Mongers in Asia literally sleep with the women on the same bed, not only have sex, but also fall asleep with them.
It doesn't seem to be a norm to sleep with women in Europe. Why?
[QUOTE=DaWong949;2020617].[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2018908]I appreciated you have been taking good care of Steffi, one of my most favorite gals anytime, in the past few month. I was the first one who tried to introduce her in ISG forum. Haven't seen her since last November, I am sorry to know that she could not get enough business she deserves. I'll re-visit Sharks in Mid-April and May, and try my best to help her some.
[/QUOTE]Steffi was there on last Wednesday, I had quick 30 min room with her then. I also saw her on last Saturday night, but went with someone else instead of her.[/QUOTE]I need to see Steffi ASAP. However the earliest available time for me will be on April 28 or 29. I wish she could stay in Sharks longer. I'm afraid we would probably lose her in near future. Her beautiful and classic smiling face is always retained in my memory.
I plan six visits to Sharks in April and May. Here is the list of girls I must see if they are available.
- Steffie; 23 yo, Ro, (try to give her sessions every time I visit.).
- Gloriana; 27 yo; half Hu half Ro.
- Anya; 21 yo, Albanian.
- Lena; 25 yo, De.
- Sandra; 26 yo, De, top GFE girl in Sharks.
- Bianca; 23 yo, Ro / Mol.
- Melanie; 22 yo, Ro.
- Rebecca; 22 yo, Ro.
- Lavinia; 23 yo, Mol.
- Megan; 21 yo, Ro.
- Mina; 21 yo, Ro.
- Nastia; 21 yo, Ro.
- Helli; 21, Ro (if coming back).
- Vivian; 26 Ro, top GFE girl in Sharks.
Backup list: Mandy, Tatiana, Nila, Sidonia, Scarlett, Evita, Roxana, Janine, Stefani, Patricia, Magda, Sara, Diana, Moira, Cosmina, Nicoletta.
Any other recommendations?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2020764]Never have to run after Wi-Fi. In France, we have professional lines with unlimited calls nearly all over the world and unlimited internet, for 80 per month, so I don't care about Wi-Fi in clubs, or in my car on autobahns where I spend so many hours, when I have to work between Germany or Switzerland and Paris.[/QUOTE]I have to buy Blau.de airtime. It costs me 35 Euros and last three days of intensive use. I would be appreciated is somebody recommend me pay-as-go internet car in Germany.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2020699]World, Sharks and AFAIK Rom do not have WiFi. Palace, Oase and Mainhattan do.
HB.[/QUOTE]In Mainhatten you can use your mobile device at the lobby or on the chair in the corridor leading to cafeteria. No value for me. In Acapulco for example I can use my tablet everywhere in common areas. What mobile devices policy in Palace and Oase? Where you can use them?
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2020869]In Mainhatten you can use your mobile device at the lobby or on the chair in the corridor leading to cafeteria. No value for me. In Acapulco for example I can use my tablet everywhere in common areas. What mobile devices policy in Palace and Oase? Where you can use them?[/QUOTE]At Oase, rule is technically no mobile phones in common areas but use is readily allowed everywhere as long as you are discreet (that is, not waving your phone around such that you may be filming or something). I've never had a problem using my phone discreetly anywhere in the club.
Yes, wifi at Mainhattan is fairly useless given how strict they are enforcing the phone rule there. Even in the cafeteria when I was the only person in the cafeteria using my phone flat on the dining table while eating by myself, one of the service staff even forced me to walk with him to my locker to watch me put my phone in my locker.
Sharks has become more strict with phones this year due to some incidents late last year at Sharks that motivated them to be a bit more strict with their phone rules. So, Sharks is almost as strict as Mainhattan with their phone policy.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2020867]I have to buy Blau.de airtime. It costs me 35 Euros and last three days of intensive use. I would be appreciated is somebody recommend me pay-as-go internet car in Germany.[/QUOTE]New Opel German cars have Wi-Fi in the car. Astra, Corsa, Mokka.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2020808]Can you invite a woman to sleep with you? What's the price for sleeping together without fucking?
[/QUOTE]At World, you can have a girl sleep with you in the room after closing time. I do that most of the time when I stay in. In fact, the receptionist always asks if a girl is sleeping with you so that they will provide extra pillow and extra blanket. And once (not always), they even provided a jug of water with 2 glasses.
Price has to be negotiated with the girl. One girl demanded twice the standard rate and so I rejected her immediately! I think you can get it at a discount from the standard rate, on the basis that you would be sleeping much of the time. Those I had gone with would do it for free as I had already been with them for many hours before that; but I still gave them something.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2020871]At Oase, rule is technically no mobile phones in common areas but use is readily allowed everywhere as long as you are discreet (that is, not waving your phone around such that you may be filming or something). I've never had a problem using my phone discreetly anywhere in the club.
Yes, wifi at Mainhattan is fairly useless given how strict they are enforcing the phone rule there. Even in the cafeteria when I was the only person in the cafeteria using my phone flat on the dining table while eating by myself, one of the service staff even forced me to walk with him to my locker to watch me put my phone in my locker.
Sharks has become more strict with phones this year due to some incidents late last year at Sharks that motivated them to be a bit more strict with their phone rules. So, Sharks is almost as strict as Mainhattan with their phone policy.[/QUOTE]Sorry at Oase there is the wifi and they provide you the password, so I always use it everywhere and stay in the restaurant space using my devices on the table and never got any remark.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2020808]
Mongers in Asia literally sleep with the women on the same bed, not only have sex, but also fall asleep with them.
[/QUOTE]No this is not true. Mostly guys, in Thailand for example, are paying hookers for Short Time which could vary between 30 minutes worst case and 2 hours. All night is sometimes available, for the right price. 25 years ago, all night was indeed a normal thing for bar girls, but not for massage parlors.
Long Time or all night is not normal in Europe, simply because it is too expensive and not value for money. That is why so many customers only want 30 minutes with a girl. Pretty obvious. Sure you can have a girl all night. FKK girls have offered to go home with me. You can see their cash-register eyes. LOL The Europe price for all night, is likely to be 5 times higher than in Thailand. For all night price in Europe you have a girl in Asia for the whole week, perhaps. In Africa you might be able to take the girl for the whole month for the same price.
Much more fun if the girl wants to go sleep with you at your Hotel for free. This can happen, but a little bit rare. Some Palace Asian girls used to go sleep at my place (nearby) on occasions because they wanted to work the next day, but was too far to go home and come back again (Wiesbaden). For some reason they preferred not to sleep at the Palace. Don't know exactly why. Perhaps noisy, or because not free, or no more rooms available.
Once you are asleep, it matters little any longer whether a girl is next to you or not. I do understand though the appeal of a naked girl next to you and touching while going to sleep. Some girls like to be touching. Some don't.
I do sleep with a girl, where our mutual preferred time for sex is when just waking up in the morning. If no prospect of that, I would not bother to arrange a girl for the night.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2020949]
Long Time or all night is not normal in Europe, simply because it is too expensive and not value for money. [/QUOTE]Depends first of all on your personal value of money and secondly on your (sexuell) fantasy. I still do some long time outcalls with club girls, usually around 12 hours, price range for this with top class girls between 700 and 1000 Euro, the cheaper girls usually don't interest me. Ok you can say for 1 k you can have 20 differend girls but that mean nothing for me, I prefer a 12 hours stay with a young beauty, having a good time, a nice hotel room, have some drinks together and have all the sex I want and with only few limits. And guys the smart girls aren't stupid they treat you in a complete different way.
And guys never forget we talk about P6 ofc you can waste a lot of money in this business but with some experience you get much more from the girls the more you pay. But some guys need the limited fantasy what more can you do with a girl than you can't do in 30 minutes.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2020958]Depends first of all on your personal value of money and secondly on your (sexuell) fantasy. I still do some long time outcalls with club girls, usually around 12 hours, price range for this with top class girls between 700 and 1000 Euro, the cheaper girls usually don't interest me. Ok you can say for 1 k you can have 20 differend girls but that mean nothing for me, I prefer a 12 hours stay with a young beauty, having a good time, a nice hotel room, have some drinks together and have all the sex I want and with only few limits. And guys the smart girls aren't stupid they treat you in a complete different way.
And guys never forget we talk about P6 ofc you can waste a lot of money in this business but with some experience you get much more from the girls the more you pay. But some guys need the limited fantasy what more can you do with a girl than you can't do in 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]700 e for 12 hrs not too bad if anal, CIM, swallow etc all included, LOL.
But idk what to do in 12 hrs must be a special gal that I click with so I can have a interesting conversation with blablabla LOL.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2020974]700 e for 12 hrs not too bad if anal, CIM, swallow etc all included, LOL.
But idk what to do in 12 hrs must be a special gal that I click with so I can have a interesting conversation with blablabla LOL.[/QUOTE]Even much more is included just use your fantasy. LOL.
And you're right chemistry with this girl must fit 100%. And I book only girls at least 30 yy than me, so you don't find many with this click compared with optic and highest (and dirtiest LOL) sex level. I'm out calling club girls since 2011, in total only 8 different girls in six years but with some girls many times and even some short holidays together.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2020984]Even much more is included just use your fantasy. LOL.
And you're right chemistry with this girl must fit 100%. And I book only girls at least 30 yy than me, so you don't find many with this click compared with optic and highest (and dirtiest LOL) sex level. I'm out calling club girls since 2011, in total only 8 different girls in six years but with some girls many times and even some short holidays together.[/QUOTE]I just want to pay club rate and then get free couch time 😆.
But if I click with a gal I don't want to pay outside want to get freebie 😊.
Perhaps I wud take a girl out as well if I'm a local so that I get to know the girls well enough.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2020987]I just want to pay club rate and then get free couch time 😆.
But if I click with a gal I don't want to pay outside want to get freebie 😊..[/QUOTE]You see that's an advantage of a young Padawan, Luke and Han get this chances but an old jedi master like Obi Wan no chance. LOL.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2020958]Depends first of all on your personal value of money and secondly on your (sexuell) fantasy. I still do some long time outcalls with club girls, usually around 12 hours, price range for this with top class girls between 700 and 1000 Euro, the cheaper girls usually don't interest me. Ok you can say for 1 k you can have 20 differend girls but that mean nothing for me, I prefer a 12 hours stay with a young beauty, having a good time, a nice hotel room, have some drinks together and have all the sex I want and with only few limits. And guys the smart girls aren't stupid they treat you in a complete different way.
And guys never forget we talk about P6 ofc you can waste a lot of money in this business but with some experience you get much more from the girls the more you pay. But some guys need the limited fantasy what more can you do with a girl than you can't do in 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]Just because the average guy is not doing it, does not mean that you or others cannot of course. What ever floats your boat. No one, other than stupid, is going to tell you how to use your money. 30 minutes fuck does not work for me either.
We all may take an all night with the right girl, when price is right. I have had FKK girls with me all night in the past, usually for free, however I did not assume I could get sex for free. Some FKK girls are lonely and like to sleep with someone.
I have taken a girl all night several times recently from a different source much more cost effective than FKK. I help with her monthly bills, and she stays with me a few times with sex included.
It is all a question of what each person decides is good value. I work out the value to me by average cost per sex session, not by total number of hours. Last GF was low value by this method, since the contact hours was high but the number of fucks was very low. Better off at an FKK sometimes. LOL.
Why do it this way? Really because sex is my only significant vice that wastes significant money, so I have to consider it's cost and value.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2020849]I plan six visits to Sharks in April and May. Here is the list of girls I must see if they are available.
- Steffie; 23 yo, Ro, (try to give her sessions every time I visit.).
- Gloriana; 27 yo; half Hu half Ro.
- Anya; 21 yo, Albanian.
- Lena; 25 yo, De...[/QUOTE]Wow! It is a good reference list for a monger to get taste from Sharks. I will visit Sharks in mid-May. Hopefully I could meet all these girls.
[QUOTE=Amspascha;2020199]I had my first Zurich visit last year on November and founded Ilka was at Club Aphrodisia with her new name.
I had visited Aphro and Globe, but very disappointed in reality. The Club Aphrodisia is with good location and nice decoration but, I find the girls here were so normal level, and most of them not young, maybe I had bad luck lose to see the 10's and 11's. I had seen a "10's girl" with her name mentioned by a member on ISG but she truely even not a 7. I go there 2 times but only had some drink with no session. I think Ilka and another 25 yo Romanian girl are the best but the rest line up is below good German FKK. But Ilka has lost her innocent feeling when I met her when she had just 1 week at Sharks, and with the triple price in Zurich.
GLOBE I had only one visit but also didn't find nothing special. Maybe also not lucky. At least I didn't see Andrea which is a confirmed stunner young princess also have photos with face in the website.
The line up is not big, the food is high quality and the non-stop stripshow I like it so much. Which can see the girls very closely..[/QUOTE]Thanks for your news about Ilka, with classy behavior and manners, and sophisticated look. Happy for her business, even Aphrodisia is not the safer party club, but she can make 280/30 mn or 500/ hour.
More than 10 visits at Globe since June, great enjoyable experiences for me. So happy to find again Isabella. I had 100 € rooms with her at Sharks and World, and now 560 € rooms with her at Globe, but she worth. Also Kate discovered at Sharks, of course, 200 for 2 hours with 2 rounds at Sharks, 420 € rooms at Globe, but her classy behavior with me, really worth. Also top pole dancer Stefi on my first visit, a real GF.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2020974]700 e for 12 hrs not too bad if anal, CIM, swallow etc all included, LOL.
But idk what to do in 12 hrs must be a special gal that I click with so I can have a interesting conversation with blablabla LOL.[/QUOTE]And if no anal or CIM etc. But just a really nice evening, including sightseeings, diner, with a beautiful girl and just simply sex could be also very nice, it is at least what I do.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2021014]Just because the average guy is not doing it, does not mean that you or others cannot of course. What ever floats your boat. No one, other than stupid, is going to tell you how to use your money. 30 minutes fuck does not work for me either.
We all may take an all night with the right girl, when price is right. I have had FKK girls with me all night in the past, usually for free, however I did not assume I could get sex for free. Some FKK girls are lonely and like to sleep with someone.
I have taken a girl all night several times recently from a different source much more cost effective than FKK. I help with her monthly bills, and she stays with me a few times with sex included.
It is all a question of what each person decides is good value. I work out the value to me by average cost per sex session, not by total number of hours. Last GF was low value by this method, since the contact hours was high but the number of fucks was very low. Better off at an FKK sometimes. LOL.
Why do it this way? Really because sex is my only significant vice that wastes significant money, so I have to consider it's cost and value.[/QUOTE]There is a huge difference between a high level escort visit and a session in a FKK. First, of all she will be fresh and you will be her 15th customer of the day. Second, since her earnings are guaranteed, she will not be so stressed and she will give you her full attention. Sure, it is expensive, but you get what you pay for. FKKs are efficient and that is the only thing good about them.
Sharks is a lot of fun with a lot of girls but my problem is 80% of the LU is not very attractive. A bit of a meat market IMO and I prefer FKK Palace in Frankfurt.
[QUOTE=Akibono;2021312]There is a huge difference between a high level escort visit and a session in a FKK. First, of all she will be fresh and you will be her 15th customer of the day. Second, since her earnings are guaranteed, she will not be so stressed and she will give you her full attention. Sure, it is expensive, but you get what you pay for. FKKs are efficient and that is the only thing good about them.[/QUOTE]Can be true in other countries but not in Germany. I had more than 150 escorts and just can report that many escorts have several customers every day just because many agencies are renting apartments or hotel rooms for meeting the guys. Many of the girls are doing 1 hour sessions (around 250 euros) and the mongers (mostly german) are not willing to book a hotel (around 70 to 120 euros). Also the FKK girls are usually cleaner than the escort.
[QUOTE=Akibono;2021312]There is a huge difference between a high level escort visit and a session in a FKK ... Sure, it is expensive, but you get what you pay for. FKKs are efficient and that is the only thing good about them.[/QUOTE]I remember a woman in the 30's, Polish irigin, I met a couple of years ago in a smaller club close to Frankfurt. She told me being rused to do escort service but wanted to check out if eorking in a club could also fit her idea to work as a prostitute. The session and service was quite good, even excellent and I was happy that evening to meet her. I never saw her any more.
But she told me in our conversation before, that escort is often like gambling for the guy as he never knows who and what to get. Some pictures and a telephone call in advance, the customer pays a nice ampunt of money when she is arriving dressed up. But whether her service fits his expectations. In her own words: ". It's loke a surprise box for the customer. ", especially then he doesn't know her from other meetings before and having a first time contact. Yes, this makes FKK really more efficient. You see what you ger, you pay the minimum fee, but if it doesn't match you don't pull additional options but make a simple fuck and finish the desaster.
[QUOTE=Slayer666;2021313]Sharks is a lot of fun with a lot of girls but my problem is 80% of the LU is not very attractive. A bit of a meat market IMO and I prefer FKK Palace in Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]Sure. Palace and Paradise are great. Sharks and Sakura are bad. And you're being paid by Paradise and Palace for placing those three statements here.
HB.
If you take an hour with a girl does it usually include 2 pops? And other things?
Hello guys,
I was in Palace yesterday (can see the post in Palace section) and the UI was terrible because of eastern leaves. A barmaid told me almost all romanian crew left for eastern.
I had plans to visit Sharks today but after seeing Palace, I have doubts to visit another FKK during easter. Can anyone say, Sharks going to be better than Palace or should I cancel it?
[QUOTE=Akibono;2021312]There is a huge difference between a high level escort visit and a session in a FKK. First, of all she will be fresh and you will be her 15th customer of the day. Second, since her earnings are guaranteed, she will not be so stressed and she will give you her full attention. Sure, it is expensive, but you get what you pay for. FKKs are efficient and that is the only thing good about them.[/QUOTE]This is all about what are you looking for. In my experience escort girls generally provide better service than FKK. However, I don't know what to do with escort girls between the shots. Conversations with them usually boring. It is good if she can provide nice massage but very few of them could do that. In most of cases massage from escort girl is boring. In short I bore with escort girls between sex.
From other hand I like to sit back with my drink watching naked girls walking around. This makes me hot pretty quick. I can easily make up to four shots in FKK. Escort girls usually two shots max even at the longer stay.
FKK works better for me even considering that this is more expensive option. Escort girls widely available in Toronto where I live. They quite costly here but overseas flight and stay in Germany makes FKK option more expensive to me. But I keep travelling and hope that June 20st will not change much on this scene.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2021361]Sure. Palace and Paradise are great. Sharks and Sakura are bad. And you're being paid by Paradise and Palace for placing those three statements here.
HB.[/QUOTE]"Palace is wonderful. " -- Sounds like a Pistons sock puppet to me.
[QUOTE=Tedesco;2021325]But she told me in our conversation before, that escort is often like gambling for the guy as he never knows who and what to get. Some pictures and a telephone call in advance, the customer pays a nice ampunt of money when she is arriving dressed up. But whether her service fits his expectations. In her own words: ". It's loke a surprise box for the customer. ", especially then he doesn't know her from other meetings before and having a first time contact. Yes, this makes FKK really more efficient. You see what you ger, you pay the minimum fee, but if it doesn't match you don't pull additional options but make a simple fuck and finish the desaster.[/QUOTE]Well, this is true if you call indy girls. When you call agency you know what you will get. Agency girls in Toronto are well reviewed on local forums so it is quite possible to avoid unpleasant surprises. But theory of "surprise box" sometimes works either. I do escort girls in Toronto between my FKK venues. Sometimes I search indys on free message boards like "backpage" for example. This is real gambling. You can find a gem, you can turn around as you see what opened the door, sometimes you can be ripped off with upsells, sometimes you can get magnificent session with all extras for $200 CAD / HR, which is about 140 Euros.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2021453]"Palace is wonderful. " -- Sounds like a Pistons sock puppet to me.[/QUOTE]Maybe they're talking about the food or drinks.
In Macau, there are around 10 saunas all clustering in that tiny land.
And some guys do write reports and even set up blogs discussing the food and drinks in every sauna, ignoring all girls. LOL.
Regarding drinks, I like the self-service drink machine in Mainhattan's restaurant.
It took me only 10 seconds to get a glass of coke by myself, while it may take up to 10 minutes at Sharks' bar at a busy time.
Macau, Switzerland, Thailand, Canada all covered this month in the Sharks thread. I feel very poorly travelled.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2021581]Macau, Switzerland, Thailand, Canada all covered this month in the Sharks thread. I feel very poorly travelled.[/QUOTE]Don't even consider Thailand. You'll be eaten alive by one of the Thai-Euro mix girls I hang with all their sweetness and charm.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2021581]Macau, Switzerland, Thailand, Canada all covered this month in the Sharks thread. I feel very poorly travelled.[/QUOTE]Would you rather read a comment about the hobby in other area's or twenty posts telling someone how to tell a girl 'no'?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2021151]Thanks for your news about Ilka, with classy behavior and manners, and sophisticated look. Happy for her business, even Aphrodisia is not the safer party club, but she can make 280/30 mn or 500/ hour.[/QUOTE]Ilka, like Alice / Katalina, are kind of women I look for, for their sophisticated look, aura and class. Not hardcore performers in room, just woman behavior and manners.
Aphrodisia in Zurich city is not the safest club, girls are upselling for party with extra to pay. Not at all for me, was never asked at Globe nor History nor Westside, but seem to also happen at Bumsalp.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2021581]Macau, Switzerland, Thailand, Canada all covered this month in the Sharks thread. I feel very poorly travelled.[/QUOTE]What about the Vatican: Any action there?
[QUOTE=Ortos;2021633]What about the Vatican: Any action there?[/QUOTE]Only anal and oral, no vaginal.
[QUOTE=Ortos;2021633]What about the Vatican: Any action there?[/QUOTE]No hetero sexual activity there. It's forbidden.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2021460]Well, this is true if you call indy girls. When you call agency you know what you will get. Agency girls in Toronto are well reviewed on local forums so it is quite possible to avoid unpleasant surprises. But theory of "surprise box" sometimes works either. I do escort girls in Toronto between my FKK venues. Sometimes I search indys on free message boards like "backpage" for example. This is real gambling. You can find a gem, you can turn around as you see what opened the door, sometimes you can be ripped off with upsells, sometimes you can get magnificent session with all extras for $200 CAD / HR, which is about 140 Euros.[/QUOTE]You are very lucky in Canada, had more than 150 escorts in Germany and 50% were a disaster even I was a VIP customer for 3 agencies.
The other Patricia (Timisoara, Romania), glossy lips, long dark hair with blonde extensions was at Sharks yesterday. Had been there again for three days, will leave after today (Thursday) for easter holidays.
Dark Sharks! The winter garden was closed for two days, no access to the outside facilities too. I heard they were renewing the floor. Should be open again soon.
[QUOTE=EnderW;2021635]No hetero sexual activity there. It's forbidden.[/QUOTE]You cannot be serious! I've just booked a two week sex vacation to the Vatican! I thought I would go off-the-beaten-track to get the best action in Europe. Gee-wiz: Do you think I should cancel my hotel and flight bookings?
[QUOTE=Breadman;2021606]Would you rather read a comment about the hobby in other area's or twenty posts telling someone how to tell a girl 'no'?[/QUOTE]In this thread, neither (in the Lounge thread life is different,). Although Ortos's Vatican visit could be an exception.
[QUOTE=Ortos;2021966]You cannot be serious! I've just booked a two week sex vacation to the Vatican! I thought I would go off-the-beaten-track to get the best action in Europe. Gee-wiz: Do you think I should cancel my hotel and flight bookings?[/QUOTE]On the other hand, you can experience the magic of Vatican non-hetero sex that has been perfected over 2000 years! It may open up a new world for you. You may finally see the light and a lot of doors may open up for you, literally.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2021883] The winter garden was closed for two days, no access to the outside facilities too. I heard they were renewing the floor. Should be open again soon.[/QUOTE]That must seriously limit the dining area.
[QUOTE=Ortos;2021966]You cannot be serious! I've just booked a two week sex vacation to the Vatican! I thought I would go off-the-beaten-track to get the best action in Europe. Gee-wiz: Do you think I should cancel my hotel and flight bookings?[/QUOTE]The LU is nothing to write home about either.
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2022025]The LU is nothing to write home about either.[/QUOTE]Okay, you guys have convinced me to re-route my sexxx-holiday to Germany, and I've decided to hit Sharks (the actual subject of this threat, BTW), plus some other clubs, during the month of June 2017. You guys have inspired me to abandon the Vatican in favor of German FKKs, and given the timing (June), I guess you could call it an all out BBBJ-binge, during the last month before "the Vatican-type Law" sets in. I actually plan to be in Sharks at the beginning of June and at the end of the same month.
I particularly want to go to Sharks on the night of June 30th and take a girl for a long BBBJ session at 21 or 22 h that night, and then take the same girl for the same service at 01.00 or 02.00. Do you think there will be a change in BBBJ-behavior from one session to another? I also plan to visit the first few days in July, to see how any changes might (theoretically) set into the club scene and affect service levels. I bet with regular girls with whom I've had multiple sessions before July 1st will offer the same type of service for the same price. Or not? Let's see. I do this purely for research purposes, of course. (I also plan to conduct the same or similar experiments at Oase and other clubs too.)
Then I want to know if Sharks plans to improve the A / C situation in the rooms. They've opened so many new rooms over the past several months, some (upstairs) are great improvements. However, from May-Sept, the attraction of, say, the upstairs fully mirrored rooms (there are two of them), is zero if those same rooms are too hot and become sweat-boxes. The hot rooms at Sharks during summer months is a legitimate issue to complain about, esp when rival clubs like Oase (yikes, do I have to mention Palace too?) have rooms with, at least some degree of, A / C or superior ventilation. Sharks has got a problem there, I think, for summer.
You'll say: Oh, but what about the outdoor cabins, for use during the hot months?
Sorry, but they are not much cooler during the day, and at the end of the day (no pun) those cabins don't have the same "wow-factor" as some of the rooms inside the club, IMHO.
I always like Europe Public transit. It is 100 x better than what we have in California. However, using PT means you are limited to one club per day. This less mobility make me switch to car rental from then on.
After 3 days quick meeting in Beijing, I boarded Air China red eye flight and landed around 7 am at Frankfurt airport. Right after I got out from immigration and board control, I rushed to Hertz car rental at Terminal one. It took me a while to find its location but once I was there, Hertz employee took care of me right away. I wanted a small car but ended up with Ford –mid size auto. I guessed that not a lot of people in Europe drive in auto shift.
Today's destination is Shark. I booked a hotel called Maritim Konferenze near darmsdadt main train station. It only took me 15-20 min to get to the hotel. It was way early for check in so I left my luggage there with busboy and drove out to Shark. I got to Shark parking lot around 10:50 am and already saw 4-5 mongers there at front door. LOL. Paid E50 for Wednesday discount entry, got myself in for shower, brunch and some drinks. Just after I settled down on one of sofa between entrance and bar, I heard the voice that "I know you". I turned to the voice, here came Megan. She changed her hair color. Some people from this forum said she lost some weight but I did not notice that. She was still charming, we chatted a little bit. Talked about how everything's going. She had some good memory on our last room which surprised me. Anyway, we went to the room. One HR, not bad but nothing to write about. I was still kind of jetlagged and tired. Paid her happily, went to shower up and then put myself inside Sauna and Steam room for a while. At around 2:30 pm, I decided to go back to hotel to check in. I had stayed in this hotel 3-4 times before. I liked its location. Next to Main train station, shuttle bus to airport. You could also walked to Shark from here for 45-50 min. Check in was really easy, I got to my room and slept on the bed till 8-9 pm. I could easily just lay on the bed and sleep through the whole night, but I told myself that You were here for FKK not to sleep. I kind of tired and decided not to drive at the night and just took cab to shark.
Got back in Shark around 9 pm, the place was packed. I went to eat something from kitchen (seems that we always eating or drinking something). I saw a girl sitting at the bar close to kitchen side. She had this towel wrap around her all the time. We smiled to each other, I approached her and asked her why she always had the towel around her. She said she felt cold and moved my hand to touch her. It was kind of chill on her body. We kind of introduced to each other. Her name is Steffi. She is short –about 160 cm without high hell. Of course from Romania. She was joking that although her body was cold, her pussy was not cold. I Kind of liked it. I told her that let us to check it out. I always like to have room with mirrors. It was a busy night, we ended up in one of those divider room from old kino. May be I was tired or maybe I liked the room. I came really fast. Within 20 min, We were done.
She was good, however I found that her kind of dark color tits not to my like. I like those pink tits and pink pussy. Anyway, I paid her E50 and kissed her goodbye.
It was almost 11 pm, my jetlag was really coming. I also need to send some emails to our office back in California so I took a cab back to hotel.
It was long day and my virgin day of driving in Deutschland. Tomorrow, I would be driving to GT and LR with my friend.
[QUOTE=Ortos;2022108]Okay, you guys have convinced me to re-route my sexxx-holiday to Germany, and I've decided to hit Sharks (the actual subject of this threat, BTW), plus some other clubs, during the month of June 2017. You guys have inspired me to abandon the Vatican in favor of German FKKs, and given the timing (June), I guess you could call it an all out BBBJ-binge, during the last month before "the Vatican-type Law" sets in. I actually plan to be in Sharks at the beginning of June and at the end of the same month.
I particularly want to go to Sharks on the night of June 30th and take a girl for a long BBBJ session at 21 or 22 h that night, and then take the same girl for the same service at 01.00 or 02.00. Do you think there will be a change in BBBJ-behavior from one session to another? I also plan to visit the first few days in July, to see how any changes might (theoretically) set into the club scene and affect service levels. I bet with regular girls with whom I've had multiple sessions before July 1st will offer the same type of service for the same price. Or not? Let's see. I do this purely for research purposes, of course. (I also plan to conduct the same or similar experiments at Oase and other clubs too.)
Then I want to know if Sharks plans to improve the A / C situation in the rooms. They've opened so many new rooms over the past several months, some (upstairs) are great improvements. However, from May-Sept, the attraction of, say, the upstairs fully mirrored rooms (there are two of them), is zero if those same rooms are too hot and become sweat-boxes. The hot rooms at Sharks during summer months is a legitimate issue to complain about, esp when rival clubs like Oase (yikes, do I have to mention Palace too?) have rooms with, at least some degree of, A / C or superior ventilation. Sharks has got a problem there, I think, for summer.
You'll say: Oh, but what about the outdoor cabins, for use during the hot months?
Sorry, but they are not much cooler during the day, and at the end of the day (no pun) those cabins don't have the same "wow-factor" as some of the rooms inside the club, IMHO.[/QUOTE]You are just doing this for research purpose, I hope that you are ironic.
[QUOTE=Ortos;2022108]Okay, you guys have convinced me to re-route my sexxx-holiday to Germany, and I've decided to hit Sharks (the actual subject of this threat, BTW), plus some other clubs, during the month of June 2017. You guys have inspired me to abandon the Vatican in favor of German FKKs, and given the timing (June), I guess you could call it an all out BBBJ-binge, during the last month before "the Vatican-type Law" sets in. I actually plan to be in Sharks at the beginning of June and at the end of the same month.
I particularly want to go to Sharks on the night of June 30th and take a girl for a long BBBJ session at 21 or 22 h that night, and then take the same girl for the same service at 01.00 or 02.00. Do you think there will be a change in BBBJ-behavior from one session to another? I also plan to visit the first few days in July, to see how any changes might (theoretically) set into the club scene and affect service levels. I bet with regular girls with whom I've had multiple sessions before July 1st will offer the same type of service for the same price. Or not? Let's see. I do this purely for research purposes, of course. (I also plan to conduct the same or similar experiments at Oase and other clubs too.).[/QUOTE]I get this.
But the only thing that will change will be the overall price for the girls service. You'll ask for a BBBJ and they will say $100-$150 because it's illegal.
Really this law was just a way to raise prices, IMHO.
A bit of a late report but a shout out to Brenda (Ex-Leya).
Unbelievable. She was one of my worst ever sessions at Sharks back in August 2015. But a couple of weeks ago, I went back to Sharks and had a great session with her and now she makes it to my must repeat list. Man those tits and that BBBJ of hers. Can't wait to see her again.
Below was my previous report on Brenda (Ex-Leya) before:
[QUOTE=Howie;1762571]Next up was (Princess) Leya. Wow what a drama queen this one was. Romanian with natural D cups. Brunette with gorgeous Asian looking features. Has been reported before by other members as being a lousy performer. In hindsight, I should have read up on her before opting to fuck her. Lousy BBBJ, did not like deep penetration or pussy touching. She arches her back when in doggy. Also nagging for you to cum quickly if you don't opt for her CIM special. Not an experience to remember but I did enjoy manhandling and squeezing those juicy tits of hers.[/QUOTE]
Also I got chatting to a petite blonde wavy haired German during meal time. She sat across from me by the high table by the walls in the dining area. Not really my type (GND average looking face and ok slim petite body) but once she finished eating, I asked her for her name just in case I was interested. Turned out that she was the 'Mandy' from Germany. Was in two minds whether to try her later on but opted not to. Maybe next time. Now I gotta figure out who Tatiana is.
Final session of the visit was with Misha or Ella or Erika from Romania. I'm now confused by the club name she went by. Slim, petite, A-cups, blonde with bow tattoos behind each thigh. I've been with her in the past and she is a semi regular and I had previously remarked that she had a slight resemblance to Taylor Swift. Great GFE session. Anyone know what club name she really goes by?
Oh, I nearly forgot. I saw Steffi butt naked whilst she was standing/sitting by the bar. This lasted for a couple hours or so. Normally she wraps a towel around herself when she's in chill out mode. Maybe a change in her Modus Operandi. Nice viewing pleasure.
Howie.
[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2022129]I get this.
But the only thing that will change will be the overall price for the girls service. You'll ask for a BBBJ and they will say $100-$150 because it's illegal.
Really this law was just a way to raise prices, IMHO.[/QUOTE]INHO 100-150 Euros for BBBJ is too much. I expect 50 Euros for BBBJ and 100 Euros for BBBJCIM. I would assume that first couple of weeks prices for BBBJ will vary but eventually market will sort it out.
I think I know my strategy after June 20st. I will not pay for BBBJ more than 50 Euros. I don't need BJ for erection. No BBBJ means longer pussy pounding. Girl could choose what is better to her.
Good to see that members here knows exactly what will happen from July when most girls or clubs or authorities do not.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2022430]Good to see that members here knows exactly what will happen from July when most girls or clubs or authorities do not.
HB.[/QUOTE]I am sure that authorities will know about what happens in the rooms less than club regulars. Authorities don't have efficient tools to control how new regulations will be implement. Nobody knows exactly what happens after June 20st. Even girls. They will try different things to survive. As I mentioned market will sort it out.
[QUOTE=Howie;2022139]She was one of my worst ever sessions at Sharks back in August 2015. But a couple of weeks ago, I went back to Sharks and had a great session with [/QUOTE]I am curious. What motivated you to repeat with the girl who provided worst ever session?
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2022421] I don't need BJ for erection. No BBBJ means longer pussy pounding. Girl could choose what is better to her.[/QUOTE]+1.
BBBJ is not essential for me, either. Sometimes I even skip the BJ part completely, if the woman is so sexy that I erect even before we enter the room. LOL.
My prediction is also similar to yours. The girls may well offer BBBJ+CIM for extra 100.
Not my thing, but it's still not the end of the world as some people may have thought.
I think the more severe problem is that the girls in Sharks all want a minimum payment of at least 100 now.
Some girls still do 50 sessions, but with only quick suck and fuck, no kissing or GFE at all. And some girls openly tell me that they only do sessions that come with a minimum payment of at least 100, because they're better than others.
I predict that by 2020, most girls in Hesse will request 100 Euros regardless of it being half hour or one hour.
This is the problem we mongers shall be worrying about more.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2022433]I am sure that authorities will know about what happens in the rooms less than club regulars. Authorities don't have efficient tools to control how new regulations will be implement. Nobody knows exactly what happens after June 20st. Even girls. They will try different things to survive. As I mentioned market will sort it out.[/QUOTE]So. I'll be going in the last week of June. Is the law changing on June 20, on on July 1st? I thought I was getting in just under the wire.
June 20? Law is effective July 1st.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2022465]June 20? Law is effective July 1st.
HB.[/QUOTE]After 30 of June which will be a Friday and 1st July a Saturday. Interesting night to experience. As was written before, interesting to take a girl on 30 June evening and to ask to repeat with same services on Saturday at 1 am.
At the moment, most of WGs don't seem to know about new law to work on 1st July. Best for girls health for me, are AO sex forbidden and not anymore sleeping in rooms where they are fucked.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2022434]I am curious. What motivated you to repeat with the girl who provided worst ever session?[/QUOTE]Her optics. I'm intrigued by her looks. Gets my juices going. And those titties. To me, have to say she is one of the better looking girls in the club. Even after that bad episode over 18 months ago, I always still gaze upon her from a distance when I'm in the club knowing that her service wasn't up to par. It was a dilemma for me during those past visits thinking whether to try her out again. That all changed from a recent visit.
So on this recent visit she approached me as I passed by her at the bar and we got talking. She seemed keen to want to go to a room with me but I told her maybe later after our brief chat as I still wasn't too sure knowing her past history with me and others. Maybe she has changed as she did make the effort to talk to me, hence my renewed interest and some of my ramblings about trying her out again in some of my recent Sharks reporting.
Anyways on my last Sharks visit in late March due to the lack of new stunners in the line up, no Rebecca that day to repeat with and diminished desire to re-fuck the other hot lookers there who I have fucked in the past (namely Nastia, Andrea, Yvette, Steffi, Melanie, Megan), I decided to try her out again hoping that her service has approved. Worst case, I lose a fifty. Best case, I can add her as must do favorite to my list which I sorely needed as my only previous two at Sharks, Helli and Eliss/Alice are no longer there. It turned out to be a good call. A great session ensued, not stellar, but still with room for improvement and will surely develop as I get to see more of her. A huge change from the absolute mediocre one when we first met. We had good rapport and connection in the room and chatted about life, her looks and her recent vacation in the Far East. Now she is my only 'go to' girl at Sharks. Great optics and great (hopefully evolving to stellar) service. That is unless I figure out who this Tatiana is, LOL, or if Helli or Eliss/Alice returns.
P.S. Can't believe it took me over 18 months to re-pull the trigger. Should have done it a lot sooner.
Howie.
[QUOTE=EnderW;2022011]It may open up a new world for you. You may finally see the light and a lot of doors may open up for you, literally.[/QUOTE]Better expect to have your door opened and hope you enjoy Italian sausages. LOL.
Go ahead please.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2022430]Good to see that members here knows exactly what will happen from July when most girls or clubs or authorities do not.
HB.[/QUOTE]One would think "authorities" would know, as they are supposed to be, well, authorities. Whoever they are.
How does it percolate down to the ground level? As we speak, this must be getting comunicafed to the local governments, prosecutors, police, etc etc, and somehow to the clubs and other places as well? Some sort of communication must be getting passed on to club managements re: what is allowed and not, what is the responsibility of club management and what they need to do and what club managers must discuss with their workers etc.
I guess it must be more tricky to get this information out to the RLds, where there is less organization and no central management as in a club. Or street hookers.
Somehow, all of this is supposed to kick into gear on July 1, not too many days from now.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2022483]After 30 of June which will be a Friday and 1st July a Saturday. Interesting night to experience. As was written before, interesting to take a girl on 30 June evening and to ask to repeat with same services on Saturday at 1 am.[/QUOTE]Especially interesting for the couples that entered the room at 11:45 PM. After 15 min of BBBJ they must stop, put a raincoat and continue.
[QUOTE=DaWong949;2022119]She was good, however I found that her kind of dark color tits not to my like. I like those pink tits and pink pussy.
It was long day and my virgin day of driving in Deutschland. Tomorrow, I would be driving to GT and LR with my friend.[/QUOTE]
Hey DaWong,
You should try Rebecca, if pink is your color. Hot smoking body with pink tits, pink pussy and an amazing pink butthole. And a blondie to boot.
But be prepared to spend some serious dough though. She loves the smell of money.
By the way, did you see Mio (blond, petite, hot looking half Turkish/half German) when you were at Goldentime Bruggen the next day? Just wondering if she has returned from Globe. She's all pink as well but with a slight tan. Even pink highlights within her platinum blond hair.
Howie.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2022646]Especially interesting for the couples that entered the room at 11:45 PM. After 15 min of BBBJ they must stop, put a raincoat and continue.[/QUOTE]For CIM specialists, look at your watch and finish at 23.59 .
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2022438]+1.
BBBJ is not essential for me, either. Sometimes I even skip the BJ part completely, if the woman is so sexy that I erect even before we enter the room. LOL.
My prediction is also similar to yours. The girls may well offer BBBJ+CIM for extra 100.
Not my thing, but it's still not the end of the world as some people may have thought.
I think the more severe problem is that the girls in Sharks all want a minimum payment of at least 100 now.
Some girls still do 50 sessions, but with only quick suck and fuck, no kissing or GFE at all. And some girls openly tell me that they only do sessions that come with a minimum payment of at least 100, because they're better than others.
I predict that by 2020, most girls in Hesse will request 100 Euros regardless of it being half hour or one hour.
This is the problem we mongers shall be worrying about more.[/QUOTE]At Sharks, go to Mandy. De, or Sandra. De, or Marina. Lat, no upselling and GFE sex with real women with real skill. I think staff should ask them to teach the job and ethic to 200 others.
There are other clubs where You can find GFE girls for only 50.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2022649]For CIM specialists, look at your watch and finish at 23.59 .[/QUOTE]On Friday 30 June. At 1 am on Saturday 1 July, CIM may be in condom in mouth. Who will be fucked to pay extra 50 for cumming in condom?
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2022593]One would think "authorities" would know, as they are supposed to be, well, authorities. Whoever they are.
[/QUOTE]It seems like until now only NRW and Bayern have adopted the laws down to state and regional levels. Most others don't seem to have a real plan. So let's see what will happen when.
HB.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2022646]Especially interesting for the couples that entered the room at 11:45 PM. After 15 min of BBBJ they must stop, put a raincoat and continue.[/QUOTE]If you take a girl on Friday evening 30 June and You have a good room with her with BBBJ and maybe CIM which is only 25 extra at GT or LR, sometimes even offered with swallow in action because the girl prefers not to stop action, asking her to repeat on Saturday 1 July at 1 or 2 am, when You recover, would be interesting to experience if the girl is self confident enough to say: Now I can t BBBJ You anymore because of the new law? And propose CIM for CBJ. I don t worry about 1st July, just better to keep private, reason why I never give details about sex with my girls, as they ask me.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2022673]It seems like until now only NRW and Bayern have adopted the laws down to state and regional levels. [/QUOTE]Sorry I haven't paid much attention to this matter in the past since nothing was concrete. What does NRW law stipulate?
They are one of the two states who already have put the law (which is the same law across Germany) "in action", breaking it down, knowing where the girls have to go to be registered, which institution is responsible for the health consultation etc. The other states do not seem to be that far.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2022760]They are one of the two states who already have put the law (which is the same law across Germany) "in action", breaking it down, knowing where the girls have to go to be registered, which institution is responsible for the health consultation etc. The other states do not seem to be that far.
HB.[/QUOTE]In the last days had a discussion with one of the top manager of a FKK club, he told me after the 1st of July only few things will change and he was quite optimistic that it will be business as usual, hoping he is right.
What is the name of a tanned skin girl from Romania with very big boobs, sits on the bar wait for people to approach her?
That should be Brenda.
Thursday:
I did the mistake of not remembering the girls names so maybe you can help me out.
First girl:
From Romania.
Sits on the sofas between the entrance and the bar (the one looking on the bar) with her friends.
Pale skin, skinny, auburn hair.
Very beautiful but was very bad service, like a dead fish.
After that I approached a girl sitting alone at the bar (far side from the entrance).
A bit short, tanned skin, brown hair, very big boobs.
From romania, 3 years at sharks, I heard her say her name was something like alik? But I probably didn't hear well.
Was with her 1 hour and she gave very good service.
Friday:
I started with Oprah from Kenya.
Was with her an hour.
Also very good service.
Later I was with Denny.
Beautiful blonde girl from Romania with big boobs and ass.
I was with her an hour.
She gave good BJ but kept wanting to change positions and tried to upsell the entire time so bad service.
I also talked to.
Andrea, cute but a little chubby for me.
Madelina, blonde girl.
An older woman from Munich who tries to sell massage.
Ellen, petite dark haired girl.
And others I didn't catch their names.
Also, the sauna ritual was fun.
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[QUOTE=Howie;2022647]Hey DaWong,
You should try Rebecca, if pink is your color. Hot smoking body with pink tits, pink pussy and an amazing pink butthole. And a blondie to boot.
But be prepared to spend some serious dough though. She loves the smell of money.
By the way, did you see Mio (blond, petite, hot looking half Turkish/half German) when you were at Goldentime Bruggen the next day? Just wondering if she has returned from Globe. She's all pink as well but with a slight tan. Even pink highlights within her platinum blond hair.
Howie.[/QUOTE]Howie,
Thank you for your info. I will check it out on my next trip.
Regarding Mio at GT, I did not think I saw her. I had good feeling about the club and surrounding but, I did not have any room. I will give it try on my next trip and stay longer than.
Can someone who have been to Sharks recently confirm if Anya, Evita, and Nastia have been there in the past few days? Making a trip next week and I wanted to see if any of these girls went home for Easter.
Was at Sharks last minute trip. LU on Friday was decent. Obviously less than usual but still better than most clubs during other times. Saturday was much less, a lot of girls I saw on Friday was missing. They probably went home last minute. I was just with my regular, we just relax and fuck, then she picked out a few Romanians for me to try. I think Esta or Estar was my favorite rommie for this trip. She is tall about 172 without heels and have dyed blond hair. Really good service. Overall good 2 day trip.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2023646]Was at Sharks last minute trip. LU on Friday was decent. Obviously less than usual but still better than most clubs during other times. Saturday was much less, a lot of girls I saw on Friday was missing. They probably went home last minute. I was just with my regular, we just relax and fuck, then she picked out a few Romanians for me to try. I think Esta or Estar was my favorite rommie for this trip. She is tall about 172 without heels and have dyed blond hair. Really good service. Overall good 2 day trip.[/QUOTE]Was there today, still a good LU a bit restricted but enough nice girls, can t compare with World which was quite terrible yesterday.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2022438]Some girls still do 50 sessions, but with only quick suck and fuck, no kissing or GFE at all. And some girls openly tell me that they only do sessions that come with a minimum payment of at least 100, because they're better than others.[/QUOTE]With this scenario FKK venues will not be really competitive with my "home food". I mean Toronto escort and massage parlors (with extra) scene. Decent 40-min BBBJ + FS session in Premier chain falls between $180 and $250 Canadian dollars. This is 125-175 Euros. No entrance fee. No expensive flight. No hotel. No taxi. Of course no FKK atmosphere either, but I could survive with that.
I am not sure what percentage of FKK clientele made by travellers. But as I could see this is a decent part. If guys like me quit travelling to Germany this could affect FKK industry and girls income. Market should define golden middle.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2023842]With this scenario FKK venues will not be really competitive with my "home food". I mean Toronto escort and massage parlors (with extra) scene. Decent 40-min BBBJ + FS session in Premier chain falls between $180 and $250 Canadian dollars. This is 125-175 Euros. No entrance fee. No expensive flight. No hotel. No taxi. Of course no FKK atmosphere either, but I could survive with that.
I am not sure what percentage of FKK clientele made by travellers. But as I could see this is a decent part. If guys like me quit travelling to Germany this could affect FKK industry and girls income. Market should define golden middle.[/QUOTE]The new law starting the 1st of July could also impact the whole industry, some girls are really considering to quit for a normal job knowing that the business is also worse than 1 or 2 years back.
[QUOTE=MatKojebca;2022981]
A bit short, tanned skin, brown hair, very big boobs.
From romania, 3 years at sharks, I heard her say her name was something like alik? But I probably didn't hear well.
Was with her 1 hour and she gave very good service.
[/QUOTE]That would be Dilek.
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2023352]Can someone who have been to Sharks recently confirm if Anya, Evita, and Nastia have been there in the past few days? Making a trip next week and I wanted to see if any of these girls went home for Easter.[/QUOTE]Evita, thin Nastya, smiling Madalina, blond silicon Patricia, Stephanie. FR, Ester, Melani, Stefi, Paloma, Marina. Lat, 2 Gloria: the blond and the very slim, small, dark skin and hair, a bit Asian face, new Romanian girl, not speaking English, are working. Dina should be back. No Megan, didn't see Anja, wish her success at Bumsalp without Aphrodisia party. 2 or 3 black girls.
Small casting for a slow Easter Monday, instead of Verbier side of Mont Gelé . Swiss Dietikon with only 13 girls is higher for me. When lovely blond Gloria. Ro asked: You will come back? As said: back to Verbier on next week end, I want to try to have my 2 extreme lines to finish Winter. No don t go, it s just passion, but need hard snow, last night fresh snow would not have been solid enough to press hard on. After, I will return to my top girls at LR and Switzerland, really higher level for skill and sensuality, even I m pretty sure Gloria has nice behavior and good services for Sharks, no upselling for kissing, DTBBBJ, very sensitive.
I loved chocolates on desk.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2022438]
I think the more severe problem is that the girls in Sharks all want a minimum payment of at least 100 now.
Some girls still do 50 sessions, but with only quick suck and fuck, no kissing or GFE at all. And some girls openly tell me that they only do sessions that come with a minimum payment of at least 100, because they're better than others.
[/QUOTE]Sorry, I've never had a girl tell me they only do 100 euro sessions. They might ask for an hour or try selling some extra's but if you fuck them really hard and have a big enough dick they quickly accept 50 euros.
I think he means minimum 1 HR, which is 100 without extras. Not 100 for half HR.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2023868]Sorry, I've never had a girl tell me they only do 100 euro sessions. They might ask for an hour or try selling some extra's but if you fuck them really hard and have a big enough dick they quickly accept 50 euros.[/QUOTE]I confirm, even not anymore a Sharks regular and don't plan to become again because I found higher level for beauties, skill and illusion in many other clubs elsewhere, but no upselling for DFK, DATY or GFE room, even on first time with girls, with Mandy, with Gloria. Ro today. I just speak with girls and it becomes fluent to room, they don t ask me how long I want to stay, I manage my time. Gloria just asked if I didn't want to stay longer than 1 hour, but who have to drive now 5 hours to Paris. Even when big size and a bit sporty as say unfortunately all girls, no need to fuck them hard, being just the most normal guy may be the most efficient to get from girls without speaking about money. No need to extra or tip, just club rate.
[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2014590]Last session was with a very new girl named something that sounds like Eebru (? Of course, I don't know the spelling). Pretty face, I was surprised to know she's from Romania. I think she's still too new so the service was standard.
[/QUOTE]She is very new. Surprisingly she was very busy on Easter Sunday. I couldn't even approach her. When she is not busy she sits tightly between two friends on single seat sofa. I caught her on Easter Monday at the bar as she walked for the drink. She cannot maintain conversation at all, she tries to smile but just a little bit, she does not kiss, no even LFK, no DIGITS, basic BBBJ, starfish response on DATY and FS. But her innocent look and total lack of experience made the session rather sweet. No repeat of course until she gains some skills. But no regrets either.
The last time I went to Sharks the best looking girl was behind the bar serving drinks.
It has an average LU IMO. Good facilities though.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2023646]Was at Sharks last minute trip. LU on Friday was decent. Obviously less than usual but still better than most clubs during other times. Saturday was much less, a lot of girls I saw on Friday was missing. They probably went home last minute. I was just with my regular, we just relax and fuck, then she picked out a few Romanians for me to try. I think Esta or Estar was my favorite rommie for this trip. She is tall about 172 without heels and have dyed blond hair. Really good service. Overall good 2 day trip.[/QUOTE]Esther maybe. Brawny bod that has looks to be able to body slam you at Sharks Wrestle Mania, but won't because she seems sweet? With an attractive, and innocent sweet looking face, and charm?
Her service wasn't good, was pretty tame.
Wow, now there are two Evita in Sharks?
I didn't see Evita, one of my favorites, aka Asian killer in Easter Monday.
Maybe she was in room all day without coming out from?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2023864]Evita, thin Nastya, smiling Madalina, blond silicon Patricia, Stephanie. FR, Ester, Melani, Stefi, Paloma, Marina. Lat, 2 Gloria: the blond and the very slim, small, dark skin and hair, a bit Asian face, new Romanian girl, not speaking English, are working. Dina should be back. No Megan, didn't see Anja, wish her success at Bumsalp without Aphrodisia party. 2 or 3 black girls.[/QUOTE]When I wrote Evita works around Easter, I didn't write she worked on Easter Monday when I visited, but without asking about her, I was said she worked on Saturday. It was just to give information if he wants to go to her. I never ran after her.
Seem to be 2 Patricia and 2 Gloria at Sharks now. 1 blond lovely Gloria. Ro, a real GF in couch and room, who tries to do her best to please you, without any upselling. At the end of 30 mn, she asked me if I wanted to keep on? Then she asked me if I could keep on my foreplay. At the end of 1 hour, when I have finished, she asked me if I wanted to stay longer? Lovely and really honest girl, I enjoyed in downstairs elephant room I discovered with her. I think she would have been happy I stayed for a second round, but maybe because I was frustrated not to be skiing like I dreamed, it was my mistake to compare her skill and sensuality with my top girls, Gloria is just lovely for her smiles, when she takes your hand on couch, to go and back from room, a real GF behavior like was Ilka, even not a fatal sensuality.
Small, very slim, dark skin, a bit Asian typeface, new girl staying not far from SM room, also said to me she is named Gloria, from Bucarest, not speaking, but a bit understanding my high level english. She seems friendly, but not my type for face and teeth, so I decided not to make her lose her time, only short chat, I just wanted to know who she is. On this Monday, she spoke with a new blond.
Would not be fair to judge casting on a Easter Monday, maybe about 40/50 girls, but some quite fat girls now, not only Katy. De with wings tattoos in back like before. I preferred club Swiss casting with only 13 girls, but 4 attractive for me.
[QUOTE=Slayer666;2024134]The last time I went to Sharks the best looking girl was behind the bar serving drinks.
It has an average LU IMO. Good facilities though.[/QUOTE]A pretty brunette on this Monday, smiling, behind the bar. Also very friendly and smiling as always one, at noon on desk.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2024047]She is very new. Surprisingly she was very busy on Easter Sunday. I couldn't even approach her. When she is not busy she sits tightly between two friends on single seat sofa. I caught her on Easter Monday at the bar as she walked for the drink. She cannot maintain conversation at all, she tries to smile but just a little bit, she does not kiss, no even LFK, no DIGITS, basic BBBJ, starfish response on DATY and FS. But her innocent look and total lack of experience made the session rather sweet. No repeat of course until she gains some skills. But no regrets either.[/QUOTE]Is she the tall, slim, British typeface, quite pretty girl? This one should think about her business, when she stays stuck to her 2 brothel friends, all sitting on couch all day.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2024321].Seem to be 2 Gloria at Sharks now. 1 blond lovely Gloria. Ro, a real GF in couch and room, who tries to do her best to please you, without any upselling. At the end of 30 mn, she asked me if I wanted to keep on? Then she asked me if I could keep on my foreplay. At the end of 1 hour, when I have finished, she asked me if I wanted to stay longer? Lovely and really honest girl, I enjoyed in downstairs elephant room I discovered with her. I think she would have been happy I stayed for a second round, but maybe because I was frustrated not to be skiing like I dreamed, it was my mistake to compare her skill and sensuality with my top girls, Gloria is just lovely for her smiles, when she takes your hand on couch, to go and back from room, a real GF behavior like was Ilka, even not a fatal sensuality.[/QUOTE]Is this Gloria the brunette about 27 yo, one who works in Sharks since last summer? If yes, her name might be Gloriana. She claimed to have some Hungarian ancestry. I am glad she is still there. She actually provides Sandra's level GFE. I'd like to offer her 2-hour-session if I could see her next time.
Esther is putting on some weight. Also, face is looking a bit tired. She is a nice girl, and I have taken enough sessions with her, but she keeps saying "you never go to the room with me". Does she have a short memory? Anyway, this recent trip, I didn't take Esther nor her friend Bianca; first time this happened in a long time. Bianca still looks good, not as good as she did 9 months ago, but she is less friendly than Esther.
The best looking staff member was this smartly dressed young woman in pants and a nice dress shirt at Oase; not a bar tender but she was mannning the front desk and standing at the door. Somewhat petite, but what a cute face. Very friendly as well.
Before working on shark Mandy worked at FKK world for 1 year.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2024324]Is she the tall, slim, British typeface, quite pretty girl? This one should think about her business, when she stays stuck to her 2 brothel friends, all sitting on couch all day.[/QUOTE]Yes. This is her.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2024450]Yes. This is her.[/QUOTE]Frustrating not kissing girls, or asking for extra for kissing like little girls, when can find, mostly Romanians or few Russians or Latvians, great kisser, some even passionate like my LR Romanian medusa or Lorena. Ro at History, really stuck to your face, taking your breathe all along you are close to them. No fluent kiss, no good sex, no worth.
So, Gloria was a better choice for what I look for. A pretty girl but not kissing, has not woman behavior for me, only sex robot.
[QUOTE=Reinard;2024440]Before working on shark Mandy worked at FKK world for 1 year.[/QUOTE]No, for small German Mandy.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2024392]Is this Gloria the brunette about 27 yo, one who works in Sharks since last summer? If yes, her name might be Gloriana. She claimed to have some Hungarian ancestry. I am glad she is still there. She actually provides Sandra's level GFE. I'd like to offer her 2-hour-session if I could see her next time.[/QUOTE]I don't visit Sharks so often now. Monday was first time I saw both Gloria. Mine is blond with very white skin and snake tattoo on arm and hand, say to be from around Constanza. Not Sandra level for sex for me, but real lovely GFE behavior. Other is at Sharks since 1 month, not speaking English, just understanding a bit, small, 40 kg, dark skin, a bit Asian face, long black hair, friendly behavior even not easy to communicate with her when I'm not able to speak more than 3 German words, but I had a good room with Mersi. Hu without words, only smiles and caresses. Second Gloria. Ro speaks German, so Sharks may not be her first time in Germany.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2024321]When I wrote Evita works around Easter, I didn't write she worked on Easter Monday when I visited, but without asking about her, I was said she worked on Saturday. It was just to give information if he wants to go to her. I never ran after her.[/QUOTE]Meaning was changed when published. Somebody asked about Evita working around Easter? So I just gave information I was said on Monday, she was seen working on Saturday 15 April, but I didn't see nor look for her on Monday. I had enough time if I wanted to run after her since beginning of 2015 when she came to me, I don't need to run after girls, when I can have high class Katalina or my high class LR girl when they will return from Easter.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2024146]Esther maybe. Brawny bod that has looks to be able to body slam you at Sharks Wrestle Mania, but won't because she seems sweet? With an attractive, and innocent sweet looking face, and charm?
Her service wasn't good, was pretty tame.[/QUOTE]I think that might be her but I don't think she's brawny at all. Just a tall girl. Anyways her service was pretty good with me, she was very sweet to me. It was funny because my regular doesn't let me kiss other girls that she picks but when she left the room for drinks or bathroom, Esther would give me passionate DFK. LOL Fun times, nothing to complain about her service. Definitely top service at Sharks, average service compare to GT or LR.
I was in Sharks the Thursday before eastern. Upon arrival I found a purse in the key box from somebody who apparently had the same number like me that day and who forgot his wallet. I took it and gave it to the reception, since I assumed that somebody was missing it already. A quick glimpse showed it contained 450 Euro. Could have been a nice evening for me) but it did not take anything of this of course.
I then had one session with Nastia, my favorite since beginning of this year. However, I despite the many sessions we had and all the money I had spent to hear, she somehow gave me a very reluctant 1 HR session and pretended she had an appointment. Well. I am afraid she has lost me.
I then went with one new Romanian girl. She is very slim, dark with long hair and somehow a little Asian glimpse to her eyes. She is Romanian, probably a gypsy. Very sexy. Communication is not possible. Very kind otherwise. No GFE though as she does not like kissing. On the other hand she likes to play with herself while being fucked. May be a repeat if there is no other doable girl around. She has an amazing petite body and with almost no wrinkle nowhere. Looks almost like one of these plastic puppets.
I saw another girl, she has very big natural and beautiful breasts. Short hair that are obviously dyed blond and it looks as if she has some short extensions (this is just to describe her, the hair is not attractive in this case) and she is medium build, in other words very feminine shape.
She left before I could approach her. Does anybody know who I am talking about and can report?
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2024554]I think that might be her but I don't think she's brawny at all. Just a tall girl. Anyways her service was pretty good with me, she was very sweet to me. It was funny because my regular doesn't let me kiss other girls that she picks but when she left the room for drinks or bathroom, Esther would give me passionate DFK. LOL Fun times, nothing to complain about her service. Definitely top service at Sharks, average service compare to GT or LR.[/QUOTE]Ester is about 1.70, white skin, small tits, used to be reddish hair, friendly, staying around the pole.
You mean Sharks average services are below GT or LR for your experience? I always go with same very few girls in any club, but since months, small LR is far higher than big Sharks for me, for GFE and sexual level. 23 yo Romanian girls at LR seem to have more woman skill than at Sharks, maybe they were refused at LR and have to go to Sharks. No Luana or some others I can t name, at Sharks.
There are a few good services girls at Sharks: Sandra, Mandy, blond Gloria, blond Patricia, Marina. Lat, but some high class girls are elsewhere and not only at Globe, can also find in Germany for 50/30 mn with no upselling for DFK, DATY, BBBJ, GFE and more.
[QUOTE=Toto001;2024644]....... I found a purse in the key box from somebody who apparently had the same number like me that day and who forgot his wallet. I took it and gave it to the reception, since I assumed that somebody was missing it?[/QUOTE]Let's hope he got it back.
[QUOTE=Toto001;2024644]I was in Sharks the Thursday before eastern. Upon arrival I found a purse in the key box from somebody who apparently had the same number like me that day and who forgot his wallet. I took it and gave it to the reception, since I assumed that somebody was missing it already. A quick glimpse showed it contained 450 Euro. Could have been a nice evening for me) but it did not take anything of this of course.
I then had one session with Nastia, my favorite since beginning of this year. However, I despite the many sessions we had and all the money I had spent to hear, she somehow gave me a very reluctant 1 HR session and pretended she had an appointment. Well. I am afraid she has lost me.
I then went with one new Romanian girl. She is very slim, dark with long hair and somehow a little Asian glimpse to her eyes. She is Romanian, probably a gypsy. Very sexy. Communication is not possible. Very kind otherwise. No GFE though as she does not like kissing. On the other hand she likes to play with herself while being fucked. May be a repeat if there is no other doable girl around. She has an amazing petite body and with almost no wrinkle nowhere. Looks almost like one of these plastic puppets.[/QUOTE]You were right and honest to bring money found to desk, have to wish desk was as honest as you.
If you proposed 450 to your favorite Nastya, maybe she would have been more lovely with you, but at least you know about her behavior with you now.
Maybe your second girl was new Gloria. Ro with dark gypsy skin, sitting between pole and SM room.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2024673]Ester is about 1.70, white skin, small tits, used to be reddish hair, friendly, staying around the pole.
You mean Sharks average services are below GT or LR for your experience? I always go with same very few girls in any club, but since months, small LR is far higher than big Sharks for me, for GFE and sexual level. 23 yo Romanian girls at LR seem to have more woman skill than at Sharks, maybe they were refused at LR and have to go to Sharks. No Luana or some others I can t name, at Sharks.
There are a few good services girls at Sharks: Sandra, Mandy, blond Gloria, blond Patricia, Marina. Lat, but some high class girls are elsewhere and not only at Globe, can also find in Germany for 50/30 mn with no upselling for DFK, DATY, BBBJ, GFE and more.[/QUOTE]Right. I was in LR last Saturday. I found a girl, 23 yo, nickname Mia, stay 1 hour with she, very GFE and PSE, very wet and opened for all games, she late me try anal on she. And she stayed with me all the afternoon. Price: 100 e for sex. Never saw that at Sharks.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2022646]Especially interesting for the couples that entered the room at 11:45 PM. After 15 min of BBBJ they must stop, put a raincoat and continue.[/QUOTE]Or imagine being stuck in line for room at 11.45 PM seeing all the couples around you preemptive starting their session in the waiting area with a BBBJ. Bet it will be a sight to behold for the history books. LOL.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2024506]I don't need to run after girls, when I can have high class Katalina or my high class LR girl when they will return from Easter.[/QUOTE]When you visit a brothel, big Sharks where I was said sometimes not far from 200 girls, some should be on the roof or in cellar, or small History with only 17 girls but I was not able to go with the 5 attractive for me, and I regret I missed Amelia. Ro and never repeated Andrea. Ro, what are you looking for? Only filling as many condoms as possible? Or kind of woman you like, I mean not only for look, but for behavior and manners. Of course we are attracted by kind of look, for example Kity GT ex Angel Bab, claiming to be Hungarian like Barbi, because they know GT German regulars don't like Romanians, so, Kity would be one of the prettiest face and sexiest body with round ass in any club, but with her fake blond hair with dark roots and lack of care for her legs, no class at all and also for her way to behave, just a pretty girl, not much more, even not bad in room, if you don't look for sensual woman behavior. So, what kind of girl will be attractive enough to give you the will to pay to spend long time with her, to repeat often? Of course, some pay for girls to sit in couch, smoking, but not for me, I don't smoke, I pay only for time in room, and I want to pay only for attractive girls. Not only about beauty or sexual performances, but more for behavior and manners, before, in and after room, care for look, for hair, for make up, for shaving legs and pussy, for hands, for nails, way to speak, to smile. Just what I call aura, which is different from only empty doll beauty, and class, which can make you forget for a while you are with a prostitute in a brothel. When you find these high class girls, they will do for you what they know you like, just because they want you to repeat. Sometimes you are surprised about what they can do, my Germany number 1 girl waiting for a room for about 20 mn, when many others were free, but she just wanted I enjoyed my time with her, even I m for sure her most complicated client, but she wants I keep on repeating with her, she is a high class girl and worth my money, as a so sensual, even only 23 yo, but real woman for manners, behavior and skill, even a bit limited for vagina potential, but I managed with so many of my regulars about that. When a girl has classy behavior, aura for look and sensuality for sex, then you can dream, take all your time to taste her and repeat as often as possible. Even I send her back to stay as long as possible at home, I will be happy to taste her again after Easter.
[QUOTE=FanOfViagra;2024735]Right. I was in LR last Saturday. I found a girl, 23 yo, nickname Mia, stay 1 hour with she, very GFE and PSE, very wet and opened for all games, she late me try anal on she. And she stayed with me all the afternoon. Price: 100 e for sex. Never saw that at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Yes Mia / Maya is a great girl very GFE. I pay her my standard rate that I pay my other regulars and she was really surprised and happy. She would tell her 'sister' to do this and that with me and then get jealous when I like it. I just wish her English is a bit better.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2024673]Ester is about 1.70, white skin, small tits, used to be reddish hair, friendly, staying around the pole.
You mean Sharks average services are below GT or LR for your experience? I always go with same very few girls in any club, but since months, small LR is far higher than big Sharks for me, for GFE and sexual level. 23 yo Romanian girls at LR seem to have more woman skill than at Sharks, maybe they were refused at LR and have to go to Sharks. No Luana or some others I can t name, at Sharks.
There are a few good services girls at Sharks: Sandra, Mandy, blond Gloria, blond Patricia, Marina. Lat, but some high class girls are elsewhere and not only at Globe, can also find in Germany for 50/30 mn with no upselling for DFK, DATY, BBBJ, GFE and more.[/QUOTE]Hmm I think she told me she was 172-3. Which looks about right since I'm only 176.
Sharks average service will always be lower than other clubs because the amount of girls at Sharks. There is about 200 girls at Sharks daily, and I don't think there is 20 great service givers around daily. Even if there were, that's still only 10% of the club.
All I know is that I got service from Ester that I would normally get at GT or LR without being extremely picky. I didn't even make her my regular yet, but I can tell she want to be and is jealous of my current Sharks regular. I think most girls can be super star service girls with time and money. Like Lucy HU from GT, she was terrible the first time, and average the 2/3 time, but now that she is more comfortable with me she became a super service girl for me. I can't get her to stop pleasuring me now. She gets very GFE and PSE with me, even public DFK. Of course I was patient with her because I really enjoyed her body, but my patience paid off.
At Toto001: the Girl that YouTube asked ist Elektra. Natural big tits and a very nice person to speak with. But poor Service. No kissing, Pussy sliding, Not allowed, no touching the pussy ans poor blowjob.
[blue]The bigger question is why did you put up a post that had nothing at all to do with sex?
At least their posts were about pussy.
Learn to use the report post button.
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First time poster, here. Finishing up a long European trip, I decided to give the famous FKK Sharks a try. Being a Virgin I was a little intimidated but had read enough here that I felt pretty good about at least giving it a go. So last Friday I enter the club around 8 pm, I'm a little nervous but have my $65 ready and they give me the basic info. After changing I enter the club and surprisingly the nerves are gone. I just treat it like its a Vegas strip club (with less sexual frustration LOL). I walked past the bar and up the steps to the Jacuzzi area and then back down and into the food area and then took a little stroll outside.
After a little walk I come back inside and start evaluating the talent, it was good Friday so I was expecting potentially slim pickings but I see some that I'm OK with. A duo make a soft approach but I pass. I wasn't ready to make a selection yet, so I go back upstairs and lie down on a lounge chair to get my mind ready. About 10 minutes later a girl comes up and asks if she can sit down. I say sure and we introduce ourselves, she's a sweet girl. She asks where do I think she's from and after reading these forums I know the odds are it's Romania, but I guess and pick a random country and say Estonia. She says no guess again and I say Moldova, she says that's close and I say the inevitable Romania, which is of course correct.
We talk for 10 or 15 minutes more and I'm thinking about whether to go somewhere more private. To me she was a 7, dirty blonde, skinny enough, smallish tits and she reminded me of this punk rock girl from high school. But more importantly we had a decent rapport so I asked to go to a room. A little bit of a rookie mistake by not negotiating anything first but we go to the room.
I was amazed how calm I am at this point. We get in bed and she asks how long and what do I want, I say an hour and basically only asked for BBBJ and sex in multiple positions which I know is standard anyway. So she gets to kissing my chest and works her way down and I'm already hard. She starts sucking and I was thinking to myself this is a little bit of a toothy technique but what do I know. After about 10 minutes I ask for sex with her on top and then we switch to doggy. The room was hot and I was sweating after about 15 minutes of sex. We do some mish and then I ask for reverse cowgirl. After awhile I realize I probably won't come from sex and ask for a blowjob. Again I don't think I'll come from this either. I think I suffer from death grip and too much porn. So I take care of myself and we did do CIM which was an extra $50. We clean up and go back downstairs. $150 for the service and I gave her an extra 20.
I was satisfied enough with the previous girl but knew I was going to make a concerted effort to find a girl I was more physically attracted to. So I take a break and grab some food and watch soccer in the dining room area. As I'm finishing up a girl comes in to the room and looks for potential customers but says nothing. At first glance from the front I think to myself this could be the girl I'm looking for. Then she turns around and yep it sure is my kind of girl. Nice firm athletic ass. So I get up and she had already walked out to by the bar and lit a cig. I introduce myself and she tells me her name but I don't remember it. I think it may have started with a b and I think it was a simple name but I just can't remember it. We talk for a bit and then I ask to go to a room. I can't believe my luck because this girl is just my type. Tall athletic build, raven haired, nice tits that are a good handful but not huge. We get down to business and my god right off the bat this girls BJ technique is miles ahead of the previous girl. After a little sucking she asks if I want any extras and offers anal. I say that's 50 right? And she says 100 which is more than I'd like but I'm not going to let this opportunity pass and I accept. So throws a condom on and we go straight to anal in cowgirl. She feels tight and warm. We do this for about 5 minutes. She surprises me by letting change from pussy to ass with the same condom, I thought that would be a no go. We repeat this routine in mish, then switch to doggy but she's hesitant to try anal in doggy saying I'm too big. I say I'll go slow and she relents, I only spend a few minutes there as I don't want to hurt her. By this time I have already lasted at least a half hour. So we go back to blow job and I ask how much to come on tits, she says 30 and I accept. Knowing that I'll have to finish myself I lay on my back while she hovers over me with her tits near my cock. I finish myself on her and we are done. We go downstairs and I'm down 230 plus another 20 tip. We part ways. I'm completely satisfied at this point and leave.
I wasn't sure that I would come back the next day as it was my last full day in Europe but back at my hotel I could not get her out of my mind so I decide to go around 830 pm and hoping I find the same girl. I really wanted to DATY as I didn't partake previously. I look around the club but she is nowhere to be found. I waste some time in the hot tub and then go back down for a shower. Walking back to the bar I see her walking and approach her. Wasting no time we go to find a room but there are none available so we sit and wait a bit. We find a room but there is no window and the fan isn't working. She says she's in no rush and we can wait for a better room. After a few minutes we get a nice mirrored room with a window. We get on the bed and she goes to work on me but in my head all I can think is I want to go down on her but I have no idea where to begin. I ask her to take a break from sucking me and ask her instead if I can go down on her. She gives me an enthusiastic yes. I have no experience so this a daunting task but I'm so willing, she has a clean pretty pink innie pussy. I start the teasing by kissing her shoulders and give her ear a small bite and kiss, then work my way down to the tits but am quick to not spend too much time here. I go down to just above her left knee cap and slowly kiss my way up her thigh to just before her pussy bit I skip over it and repeat this process on her right side. I do this a few times more until I decide its time to give the pussy some attention. I have no idea where to begin but decide that after a few full pussy licks that I'll try and isolate her clit. I spread her a little bit so I can get my tongue where it needs to be and just do some classic up down licks on her clit while also giving her whole pussy some attention as well. I focus on her clit for awhile and I must have been down there for 15 minutes and think to myself I must be doing a shit job. She notices that I'm slowing down but says she's close and she furiously rubs herself and ask for me to finger her while rubs herself. A few minutes later she is gripping my arm so tight and she climaxes. She is breathing heavily and her body is a site to see and she arches herself after or what seemed to be an extended orgasm. She says this is the first time in two months that's she climaxed with a client. I highly doubt this as this is my first time and she is probably just a great actress for all I know. But if this is somehow true I owe it to the vice guide to eating pussy that I read online LOL.
I'm still hard as a rock at this point and after a few minutes she goes back to me and I ask for anal again. We have sex for 20-25 minutes but I know by know that I'll probably only come if I do it myself. She asks how I'd like to finish and I say not sure either tits or mouth and when I got close I asked for mouth. She took this CIM so well compared to the other girl. The other girl immediately went to the trash can to spit out and then Listerine LOL, I can't blame her. But this girl was so kinky she swallowed most of it and said I tasted sweet.
I'm on cloud nine as I'm back in the club. Time for some food and soccer to recover. Here I contemplate my options, do I want another girl or perhaps repeat yet again. I walk around surveying the floor and don't see anyone I'm absolutely sprung for. After a little while I see her again and ask to repeat she seems surprised I would and says she just needs to shower quickly so we agree to meet by food in a few minutes. This time in the room we get to talking a lot more which I'm very happy to do. I tell her how nothing like this exists in America and in some Vegas strip clubs a private room for 15 minutes is $100 and there is usually no fucking. She is amazed that people spend this much. We talk more and even Trump comes up which is not conducive to me feeling horny at all so I switch the conversation and indicate I'm ready to get started she gets on top of me just hugging me for a bit which is kind of awkward but she a hot chick so I'm not complaining. She teases me and gets to sucking. This session we have a lot more kissing and she plays with my balls a lot which I tell her I love. I ask to try 69 and we do that for a bit. We fucked this time in like 6 positions, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, mish, doggy, standing up, and on our sides. After this without me asking while I'm on my back and she is standing on the bed she bends over and give me the most glorious view of her pussy while she plays with my balls and I finish myself. What a great mental image to the leave the club with. We talk for awhile and share some personal stories and talk about some stuff we have both gone through. I could have talked all night but I know we are the clock and I have a flight in the morning so I get up and we go downstairs. I thought we were in the room this session for at least two hours but she charges me for 90 minutes. I only had enough euros left for a $10 tip. I would have given her more but didn't make an ATM trip as I was going to be leaving after I pay her. I shower and leave in a great mood.
It's too bad I didn't get her name since I'll be back in Europe at the end of summer. Maybe someone here knows? The most distinguishing things I can remember about her is that she said she was Croatian, just turned 29 (but looked 24), had a bellybutton ring, said she had only been there a week and would only be there one more week before she went back to Austria to work, told me she was 170 cm, and she had a black earring in her left ear.
Sorry for the wall of text as I sat down to write this I had no idea it would be this long.
[QUOTE=SelfSaboteur;2024946] I think I suffer from death grip and too much porn. [/QUOTE]Hey, some of us have been there. Still are.
[QUOTE=SelfSaboteur;2024946]It's too bad I didn't get her name since I'll be back in Europe at the end of summer. Maybe someone here knows? The most distinguishing things I can remember about her is that she said she was Croatian, just turned 29 (but looked 24), had a bellybutton ring, said she had only been there a week and would only be there one more week before she went back to Austria to work, told me she was 170 cm, and she had a black earring in her left ear. [/QUOTE]We will keep a look out for the girl with no name.
[QUOTE=SelfSaboteur;2024946]Sorry for the wall of text as I sat down to write this I had no idea it would be this long. [/QUOTE]No problem. It has been a pleasure.
SelfSaboteur Thanks. Brilliant report even without names. It's so easy to get attached to a girl when everything goes right. Reading your report I almost fell for her myself LOL.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2024797]Hmm I think she told me she was 172-3. Which looks about right since I'm only 176.
Sharks average service will always be lower than other clubs because the amount of girls at Sharks. There is about 200 girls at Sharks daily, and I don't think there is 20 great service givers around daily. Even if there were, that's still only 10% of the club.
All I know is that I got service from Ester that I would normally get at GT or LR without being extremely picky. I didn't even make her my regular yet, but I can tell she want to be and is jealous of my current Sharks regular. I think most girls can be super star service girls with time and money. Like Lucy HU from GT, she was terrible the first time, and average the 2/3 time, but now that she is more comfortable with me she became a super service girl for me. I can't get her to stop pleasuring me now. She gets very GFE and PSE with me, even public DFK. Of course I was patient with her because I really enjoyed her body, but my patience paid off.[/QUOTE]About 1,70 is not so far for Ester who is friendly. A single 1 hour room with her on September 2015 when she arrived at Sharks from another club. Not bad room, nice behavior, but even I promised we would repeat, no spark, lack of sensuality, not sexy enough in room, I didn't feel the potential I feel after 2 minutes with some, to make me return to her. Only my taste of course, because Ester is a nice girl.
I had many higher level girls at Sharks. Sandra is far higher, Mandy is higher, Melani when just arrived from Finca was higher but not same level on next week end, so only 2 rooms with her, Ariana. Ro, Aylice. Bu were also far higher. No comparison for Alice / Katalina or Roberta or Leila.
My biggest problem at Sharks since months is not girls sexual level, because I can work to make them improve, but I can t do anything about lack of beauties, elegance, class and sensuality. Where are real women? Except Marina. Lat or Stephanie. FR. Some girls claiming to modeling, really don t move like models. For who knew her, my World regular was too short with too curvy ass even very firm, but all World girls said: You only come for your top model, by the way she walked, and she was elegant, naked or in street clothes.
Anyway, you are lucky your regular agree you go with other girls, but of course if she is paid to watch. At Globe, the busiest girl who was a Hessen superstar, said to me she was jealous I go with another regular, so I had to go when one was off. At LR, my girl said to me after 3 rooms: If you go with another girl, I won't give you the same from me. When she was said by one of her jealous German client, he saw me at Aca, she said she was disappointed and angry, and even she waited for the best room key, she was not the same in room, so I left and said I won't return to her before her Easter and I didn't, even she sent me she would like I return. My answer was: I don't drive nor pay for such behavior. Madi World thought I only met her in Germany, it was true for World, when she read my writings about Sharks and saw me going with small, curly hair Cristina, it was our end. When you get from girls, they don't want you go elsewhere, that's why only 1 high class regular, meaning elegant, sensual woman, is better for me in a club. 2 girls is often too complicated to manage, but I don't find so many attractive girls.
Only my little experience.
SelfS,
Great first report. Hope you come back here with more! Congrats on losing your (FKK) virginity, LOL. First time is the best.
I know what you mean with your Vegas strip club comments. I used to waste so much money in the US strip clubs. After I discovered FKKs, I went to a strip club exactly once (I was scheduled to visit FKKs the following week and wanted to get into the mood).
I never take anal, but somewhat surprised the girl let you alternate between ass and pussy. These girls give so much attitude about FIP, but have no problem with ass pussy swaps. They must think guys' fingers are less clean than deep in their rectum, LOL.
Even in a threesome, half the girls want to put on a new condom when changing girls. I haven't taken too many of those also, but that's been my experience, and that's just for pussy. I don't begrudge their right to have safe sex, but it's interesting when and where they decide to bend rules.
Thanks for the positive comments guys. I'm back in the states and still feel good from my trip. It's amazing the confidence losing my virginity gave me. Up early everyday and at the gym all four days this week. This experience definitely let me not put "pussy on the pedestal" since my experience went so well. Half of me wants to find another girl here but to get similar action it's probably about $400 an hour and with the added bonus of potentially getting caught by LE, LOL. So instead I'm putting my good vibes into positive actions. I may never get back to Sharks but will think of it fondly. It's too bad it doesn't exist like this in America I think a lot of frustrated young men would benefit.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2025224]
Even in a threesome, half the girls want to put on a new condom when changing girls. I haven't taken too many of those also, but that's been my experience, and that's just for pussy.[/QUOTE]Yep right at least half of the girls insist on changing condom when changing girl. But this is No Go for threesome for me and now I always clear this up before session. And at least my last 5 threesome were without changing condom.
[QUOTE=SelfSaboteur;2024946]First time poster, here. Finishing up a long European trip, I decided to give the famous FKK Sharks a try. Being a Virgin I was a little intimidated but had read enough here that I felt pretty good about at least giving it a go. So last Friday I enter the club around 8 pm, I'm a little nervous but have my $65 ready and they give me the basic info. After changing I enter the club and surprisingly the nerves are gone. I just treat it like its a Vegas strip club (with less sexual frustration LOL). I walked past the bar and up the steps to the Jacuzzi area and then back down and into the food area and then took a little stroll outside.
After a little walk I come back inside and start evaluating the talent, it was good Friday so I was expecting potentially slim pickings but I see some that I'm OK with. A duo make a soft approach but I pass. I wasn't ready to make a selection yet, so I go back upstairs and lie down on a lounge chair to get my mind ready. About 10 minutes later a girl comes up and asks if she can sit down. I say sure and we introduce ourselves, she's a sweet girl. She asks where do I think she's from and after reading these forums I know the odds are it's Romania, but I guess and pick a random country and say Estonia. She says no guess again and I say Moldova, she says that's close and I say the inevitable Romania, which is of course correct.
We talk for 10 or 15 minutes more and I'm thinking about whether to go somewhere more private. To me she was a 7, dirty blonde, skinny enough, smallish tits and she reminded me of this punk rock girl from high school. But more importantly we had a decent rapport so I asked to go to a room. A little bit of a rookie mistake by not negotiating anything first but we go to the room.
I was amazed how calm I am at this point. We get in bed and she asks how long and what do I want, I say an hour and basically only asked for BBBJ and sex in multiple positions which I know is standard anyway. So she gets to kissing my chest and works her way down and I'm already hard. She starts sucking and I was thinking to myself this is a little bit of a toothy technique but what do I know. After about 10 minutes I ask for sex with her on top and then we switch to doggy. The room was hot and I was sweating after about 15 minutes of sex. We do some mish and then I ask for reverse cowgirl. After awhile I realize I probably won't come from sex and ask for a blowjob. Again I don't think I'll come from this either. I think I suffer from death grip and too much porn. So I take care of myself and we did do CIM which was an extra $50. We clean up and go back downstairs. $150 for the service and I gave her an extra 20.
I was satisfied enough with the previous girl but knew I was going to make a concerted effort to find a girl I was more physically attracted to. So I take a break and grab some food and watch soccer in the dining room area. As I'm finishing up a girl comes in to the room and looks for potential customers but says nothing. At first glance from the front I think to myself this could be the girl I'm looking for. Then she turns around and yep it sure is my kind of girl. Nice firm athletic ass. So I get up and she had already walked out to by the bar and lit a cig. I introduce myself and she tells me her name but I don't remember it. I think it may have started with a b and I think it was a simple name but I just can't remember it. We talk for a bit and then I ask to go to a room. I can't believe my luck because this girl is just my type. Tall athletic build, raven haired, nice tits that are a good handful but not huge. We get down to business and my god right off the bat this girls BJ technique is miles ahead of the previous girl. After a little sucking she asks if I want any extras and offers anal. I say that's 50 right? And she says 100 which is more than I'd like but I'm not going to let this opportunity pass and I accept. So throws a condom on and we go straight to anal in cowgirl. She feels tight and warm. We do this for about 5 minutes. She surprises me by letting change from pussy to ass with the same condom, I thought that would be a no go. We repeat this routine in mish, then switch to doggy but she's hesitant to try anal in doggy saying I'm too big. I say I'll go slow and she relents, I only spend a few minutes there as I don't want to hurt her. By this time I have already lasted at least a half hour. So we go back to blow job and I ask how much to come on tits, she says 30 and I accept. Knowing that I'll have to finish myself I lay on my back while she hovers over me with her tits near my cock. I finish myself on her and we are done. We go downstairs and I'm down 230 plus another 20 tip. We part ways. I'm completely satisfied at this point and leave.
I wasn't sure that I would come back the next day as it was my last full day in Europe but back at my hotel I could not get her out of my mind so I decide to go around 830 pm and hoping I find the same girl. I really wanted to DATY as I didn't partake previously. I look around the club but she is nowhere to be found. I waste some time in the hot tub and then go back down for a shower. Walking back to the bar I see her walking and approach her. Wasting no time we go to find a room but there are none available so we sit and wait a bit. We find a room but there is no window and the fan isn't working. She says she's in no rush and we can wait for a better room. After a few minutes we get a nice mirrored room with a window. We get on the bed and she goes to work on me but in my head all I can think is I want to go down on her but I have no idea where to begin. I ask her to take a break from sucking me and ask her instead if I can go down on her. She gives me an enthusiastic yes. I have no experience so this a daunting task but I'm so willing, she has a clean pretty pink innie pussy. I start the teasing by kissing her shoulders and give her ear a small bite and kiss, then work my way down to the tits but am quick to not spend too much time here. I go down to just above her left knee cap and slowly kiss my way up her thigh to just before her pussy bit I skip over it and repeat this process on her right side. I do this a few times more until I decide its time to give the pussy some attention. I have no idea where to begin but decide that after a few full pussy licks that I'll try and isolate her clit. I spread her a little bit so I can get my tongue where it needs to be and just do some classic up down licks on her clit while also giving her whole pussy some attention as well. I focus on her clit for awhile and I must have been down there for 15 minutes and think to myself I must be doing a shit job. She notices that I'm slowing down but says she's close and she furiously rubs herself and ask for me to finger her while rubs herself. A few minutes later she is gripping my arm so tight and she climaxes. She is breathing heavily and her body is a site to see and she arches herself after or what seemed to be an extended orgasm. She says this is the first time in two months that's she climaxed with a client. I highly doubt this as this is my first time and she is probably just a great actress for all I know. But if this is somehow true I owe it to the vice guide to eating pussy that I read online LOL.
I'm still hard as a rock at this point and after a few minutes she goes back to me and I ask for anal again. We have sex for 20-25 minutes but I know by know that I'll probably only come if I do it myself. She asks how I'd like to finish and I say not sure either tits or mouth and when I got close I asked for mouth. She took this CIM so well compared to the other girl. The other girl immediately went to the trash can to spit out and then Listerine LOL, I can't blame her. But this girl was so kinky she swallowed most of it and said I tasted sweet.
I'm on cloud nine as I'm back in the club. Time for some food and soccer to recover. Here I contemplate my options, do I want another girl or perhaps repeat yet again. I walk around surveying the floor and don't see anyone I'm absolutely sprung for. After a little while I see her again and ask to repeat she seems surprised I would and says she just needs to shower quickly so we agree to meet by food in a few minutes. This time in the room we get to talking a lot more which I'm very happy to do. I tell her how nothing like this exists in America and in some Vegas strip clubs a private room for 15 minutes is $100 and there is usually no fucking. She is amazed that people spend this much. We talk more and even Trump comes up which is not conducive to me feeling horny at all so I switch the conversation and indicate I'm ready to get started she gets on top of me just hugging me for a bit which is kind of awkward but she a hot chick so I'm not complaining. She teases me and gets to sucking. This session we have a lot more kissing and she plays with my balls a lot which I tell her I love. I ask to try 69 and we do that for a bit. We fucked this time in like 6 positions, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, mish, doggy, standing up, and on our sides. After this without me asking while I'm on my back and she is standing on the bed she bends over and give me the most glorious view of her pussy while she plays with my balls and I finish myself. What a great mental image to the leave the club with. We talk for awhile and share some personal stories and talk about some stuff we have both gone through. I could have talked all night but I know we are the clock and I have a flight in the morning so I get up and we go downstairs. I thought we were in the room this session for at least two hours but she charges me for 90 minutes. I only had enough euros left for a $10 tip. I would have given her more but didn't make an ATM trip as I was going to be leaving after I pay her. I shower and leave in a great mood.
It's too bad I didn't get her name since I'll be back in Europe at the end of summer. Maybe someone here knows? The most distinguishing things I can remember about her is that she said she was Croatian, just turned 29 (but looked 24), had a bellybutton ring, said she had only been there a week and would only be there one more week before she went back to Austria to work, told me she was 170 cm, and she had a black earring in her left ear.
Sorry for the wall of text as I sat down to write this I had no idea it would be this long.[/QUOTE]Never had a girl who was ready to move from pussy to ass with the same condom (15 years of FKK), may be your report is true or fake let us see in the future.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2025224] They must think guys' fingers are less clean than deep in their rectum, LOL.[/QUOTE]Don't you know that a girl's shit smells like roses?
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2025224] Even in a threesome, half the girls want to put on a new condom when changing girls. I haven't taken too many of those also, but that's been my experience, and that's just for pussy. I don't begrudge their right to have safe sex, but it's interesting when and where they decide to bend rules. [/QUOTE]Wow, in a 100% of my threesomes the two girls have requested a change of condom even when the girls have been sisters or best of friends. So your statistic that only half of your girls want to change condoms and the other half do not is way better than my abilities. You must be doing something right. It must be all the public sex.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2025239]Yep right at least half of the girls insist on changing condom when changing girl. But this is No Go for threesome for me and now I always clear this up before session. And at least my last 5 threesome were without changing condom.[/QUOTE]Craiova, I need to take your leader to insist no change of condom in any threesome that I take. It may mean less threesomes are allotted but it means that we get what we want which is no condom changing between pussies. Well done there.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2025251]
Wow, in a 100% of my threesomes the two girls have requested a change of condom even when the girls have been sisters or best of friends.[/QUOTE]I would ask them if they believe to be in the right business. And I think fucking two or three or more girls with the same condom is even after July 1st allowed.
If a girl takes in vagina, condom she got in her ass, she takes risks about diseases. Safer for her to start in vagina, before ass.
Hey man,
How often do you go to FKKs? It seems you must go every other day? I've been a fair amount but it seems you go all the time!
That's cool. Would be interested to know a rough figure of how many times a week.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2025190]Anyway, you are lucky your regular agree you go with other girls, but of course if she is paid to watch. At Globe, the busiest girl who was a Hessen superstar, said to me she was jealous I go with another regular, so I had to go when one was off. At LR, my girl said to me after 3 rooms: If you go with another girl, I won't give you the same from me. When she was said by one of her jealous German client, he saw me at Aca, she said she was disappointed and angry, and even she waited for the best room key, she was not the same in room, so I left and said I won't return to her before her Easter and I didn't, even she sent me she would like I return. My answer was: I don't drive nor pay for such behavior. Madi World thought I only met her in Germany, it was true for World, when she read my writings about Sharks and saw me going with small, curly hair Cristina, it was our end. When you get from girls, they don't want you go elsewhere, that's why only 1 high class regular, meaning elegant, sensual woman, is better for me in a club. 2 girls is often too complicated to manage, but I don't find so many attractive girls.
Only my little experience.[/QUOTE]Your experience is highly valued to many if not only me.
I have be never dared to ask my Sharks regular if I can take another girl with us. She only brought it up because I think she was getting bored with just me. I like her a lot and wanted to keep her as my Sharks girl, and I almost never want to make her mad, but she wanted to watch me fuck other girls, especially Romanian girls. She liked it when I fucked them hard, she liked that I fucked them like a piece of meat and when I get really rough with them. She likes it when I get physical, because I'm always so gentle with her. I treat her like a real friend and is always gentle with her. She wasn't jealous from me fucking the other girls hard or how I enjoyed them. I would finger my regular when I fuck these other Romanian girls and she would get much much more wetter than if she was just with me. Her pussy would be dripping watching me fuck these other Romanian girls. I've been with my Sharks regular for almost a year now and I've never felt her this wet, I mean dripping wet. In fact I can say she was never wet with just me, but when I fucked these girls she picked, she was wet and wild.
This was something I've never experienced in my life, even in P6 life. Never in my life my girl 'friend' was happy that I was slamming another pussy while I was DFKing her and fingering her at the same time. She was really happy that I was fucking as many girls as I physically can and fuck them till their pussy is worn. She is something alright. But I think I need to cut ties with this girl before things get serious on my side. She is one special lady, and it will be awhile till I find another.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2025292]Your experience is highly valued to many if not only me.
This was something I've never experienced in my life, even in P6 life. Never in my life my girl 'friend' was happy that I was slamming another pussy while I was DFKing her and fingering her at the same time. She was really happy that I was fucking as many girls as I physically can and fuck them till their pussy is worn. She is something alright. But I think I need to cut ties with this girl before things get serious on my side. She is one special lady, and it will be awhile till I find another.[/QUOTE]Pardon my ignorance in this matter. I don't live in Germany hence did not manage to have regulars at any FKK. When your regulars are like your GFE, can't you get their numbers and do the business outside FKK?
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2025268]Hey man,
How often do you go to FKKs? It seems you must go every other day? I've been a fair amount but it seems you go all the time!
That's cool. Would be interested to know a rough figure of how many times a week.[/QUOTE]Not very interesting to know how many times I attend? Who are my girls? I can just answer I don't spend my holidays in brothels, I have better dreams, like today, even only week end, but last night I drove 650 kms and this morning I was again in Verbier, facing my mountain. Last Friday, I was not ready, so too dangerous if You are afraid about risk, on Monday fresh snow fallen in night was not solid enough, too risky, so I cured my frustration with lovely Gloria. Ro at Sharks, driving from Verbier, but today I was ready for ice and rocks with only my ski blades for friends, to cut ice, pressing hard, not to lose grip. All were skiing on easier Tortin side, I had extreme side with 2 lines to run, only for me. My own Mont Gelé twice today. Just a dream.
Anybody should be able to live own life without needing to do like others, each one his dreams if people are able to have some. I have so many in my head, more and more to achieve, and nobody can steal them. Most are far from brothels. Only elegant and classy with good manners, prostitutes can give a bit of dream.
[QUOTE=NorskKing;2025383]Pardon my ignorance in this matter. I don't live in Germany hence did not manage to have regulars at any FKK. When your regulars are like your GFE, can't you get their numbers and do the business outside FKK?[/QUOTE]If or when that happens, it is like fight clubs first rule. Not to be talked about.
Come on! Especially inside the Sharks Thread. LOL The Sharks girls can come and go when they want. And I know enough Sharks girls make a short or long time outcall with clients and even club knows this.
Other clubs have other rules therefore short term like 2 or 3 hours outcall makes no sense. But for whole day out call you get at every club a girl for this. Two years ago during winter I was in the evening with a club fav of me at one of these top smoking bars at Frankfurt Fressgasse. And we met by coincidence the club manager where the girl works. What happend? We drunk something together and neiter my girl nor me ever had any problem about this in her club.
Phone number I get at 99% from every club girl I want after first session.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2025644]Come on! Especially inside the Sharks Thread. LOL The Sharks girls can come and go when they want. And I know enough Sharks girls make a short or long time outcall with clients and even club knows this.
Other clubs have other rules therefore short term like 2 or 3 hours outcall makes no sense. But for whole day out call you get at every club a girl for this. Two years ago during winter I was in the evening with a club fav of me at one of these top smoking bars at Frankfurt Fressgasse. And we met by coincidence the club manager where the girl works. What happend? We drunk something together and neiter my girl nor me ever had any problem about this in her club.
Phone number I get at 99% from every club girl I want after first session.[/QUOTE]Yes but after what will you do with the number? Also some girls will contact you to support them for many good or bad reasons. After so many years of FKK visits like many of us I got a lot of number / whatsapp but I always delete them just because I think it is bringing nothing.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2025644]Phone number I get at 99% from every club girl I want after first session.[/QUOTE]This is true -- I've never had a girl I've gone with more than once ever refuse me their phone number and this applies to all clubs I've been to! I think it helps if you spend substantial time and / or money with them.
Usually on the second meeting I get the number and many times the real name too!
I used to see a girl at Mainhattan and then about a year ago she switched to Sharks. I have been out of the FKK scene for exactly 1 year and am finally going back soon.
If anyone can help me find this girl I will do whatever I can to help you. I know her real name but not her club name. She is skinny girl with natural blobs. Romanian like most. She has an imperfection on the front of her left hip from birth complication (bone sticks out slightly). You would know if you have seen her. I have not seen anyone else like it.
Thank you in advance.
I look forward to adding more reviews.
[QUOTE=Global1810;2025710]I used to see a girl at Mainhattan and then about a year ago she switched to Sharks. I have been out of the FKK scene for exactly 1 year and am finally going back soon.
If anyone can help me find this girl I will do whatever I can to help you. I know her real name but not her club name. She is skinny girl with natural blobs. Romanian like most. She has an imperfection on the front of her left hip from birth complication (bone sticks out slightly). You would know if you have seen her. I have not seen anyone else like it.
Thank you in advance.
I look forward to adding more reviews.[/QUOTE]Can she have been so important if you don't know her Mainhatten name, nor approx. Height? Did you ever post a MH thread report about her? If so, go back and look for your own report.
Skinny ex-Mainhattan with natural tits could be Ruby. Don't remember anything unusual about her hips.
I think the name was Ivetta.
It didn't seem important to remember the details when I was going every month. Then some life changes prevented me from traveling.
The only review I did for her was late 2015 when she was still at Mainhattan.
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2025681]This is true -- I've never had a girl I've gone with more than once ever refuse me their phone number and this applies to all clubs I've been to! I think it helps if you spend substantial time and / or money with them.
Usually on the second meeting I get the number and many times the real name too![/QUOTE]Yes but after what are you doing with this number? Meet her as a escort?
Are the girls that left for Easter vacation begun to come back? I plan to visit in two weeks and are looking forward to meet the Sirens of Sharks.
Saw Moira tonight for a couple of seconds. She was in jeans and Sharks black uniform t-short. I greeted her, she excused herself that she has to run. I just said that it is still very nice to see her. It looks like she works at the laundry or somewhere at the back.
Global 1810. I can help you. This little skinny girl is working at Sharks. Her Stagename ist Yvette. She was in Mainhatten and has this scar. Mostly working from Wednesday to Saturday. She is now 25 years and smiles a lot. Good reports to her and giving correct Service.
I've been to a number of clubs but first time at Sharks. Thanks to other member's posts it was easy to find my way there. I missed the bus by one minute at the airport and next one was an hour later. One hour is a long time to wait when you want to get to a FKK club. Anyways, I ended up on the train.
Got there around noon, not expecting a lot because it's just after Easter, but still. Club is very clean, very modern. 65 euro entrance. After I changed I went in and could not find any girls. Only guys. I figured they would come later. I went to have lunch, great food there. After a long lunch I went back inside, around 1. 30 pm, a lot more guys but still no girls. Not a single one. None. This was the worst sausage fest ever. I went to isolate myself on the second floor just in case all these horny guys might start mating with each other.
After a short nap now 2.30 pm I looked around and saw only one girl at the bar, not seeming interested in doing business, and about 40 guys sitting everyone looking around. It was a bit pathetic. I started wondering why they charged me 65 euros for entrance to a club with no girls. It would take too long to leave and go somewhere else so I decided to stay anyways. Went for desserts and coffee, watched football, went for another nap (yes I was tired). Around 4. 30 pm finally girls started arriving! Most of them, for some reason, kept the towel around them and just sat around not talking to anyone.
I decided to walk over to a short cute brunette who turns out to be from Bulgaria (forgot her name! Had a great session with her, very sloppy DFK and BBBJ and very hot session all around. Since time was short because my next flight I showered and looked for my next session right away, I met this skinny Romanian blonde girl. Also good session but a little more mechanical.
All in all an OK visit despite a slow start. Shark's is a well maintained club, I understand the LU was probably weak everywhere else on that day too. Only thing is I don't like the layout. For instance at Oase the girls have to walk all around the club to change, eat, shower, talk to people etc. At Shark's the entire second floor is a dead end, the Jacuzzi is nice but you can't see any of the girls from there. Anyways I will give it another chance in summer when the outside is open, I am sure it's very different.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2026080]Saw Moira tonight for a couple of seconds. She was in jeans and Sharks black uniform t-short. I greeted her, she excused herself that she has to run. I just said that it is still very nice to see her. It looks like she works at the laundry or somewhere at the back.[/QUOTE]Even less money, it would be good for her. I was not enough attracted by her face and knees to repeat, but a friendly girl for our room, and also outside.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2026080]Saw Moira tonight for a couple of seconds. She was in jeans and Sharks black uniform t-short. I greeted her, she excused herself that she has to run. I just said that it is still very nice to see her. It looks like she works at the laundry or somewhere at the back.[/QUOTE]Rly she works at the laundry now? Idk makes no sense she should've made enough money so she can invest and / or start her own biz back home.
[QUOTE=Paco69;2026103]Global 1810. I can help you. This little skinny girl is working at Sharks. Her Stagename ist Yvette. She was in Mainhatten and has this scar. Mostly working from Wednesday to Saturday. She is now 25 years and smiles a lot. Good reports to her and giving correct Service.[/QUOTE]She also asks for tips over the standard pricing for her correct service as well. Just refuse to pay it but expect a tirade of abuse and claims of never repeating with you again.
[QUOTE=Leduq;2026118]One hour is a long time to wait when you want to get to a FKK club. Anyways, I ended up on the train.
Got there around noon .... I went in and could not find any girls. Only guys.
....around 1. 30 pm, a lot more guys but still no girls. Not a single one. None. This was the worst sausage fest ever. I went to isolate myself on the second floor just in case all these horny guys might start mating with each other.
After a short nap now 2.30 pm I looked around and saw only one girl at the bar, not seeming interested in doing business, and about 40 guys sitting everyone looking around. It was a bit pathetic.
Around 4. 30 pm finally girls started arriving! Most of them, for some reason, kept the towel around them and just sat around not talking to anyone.[/QUOTE]What a catastrophe.
Better to come the club at 6 pm to see some action it seems.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2026212]Rly she works at the laundry now? Idk makes no sense she should've made enough money so she can invest and / or start her own biz back home.[/QUOTE]Maybe her investments did not pan out or she had someone to support?
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2026246]She also asks for tips over the standard pricing for her correct service as well. Just refuse to pay it but expect a tirade of abuse and claims of never repeating with you again.[/QUOTE]And next time she will ask for a session again like nothing happened, LOL.
Not sure if she's the one I have in mind if so she's quite good looking.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2026268]And next time she will ask for a session again like nothing happened, LOL.
Not sure if she's the one I have in mind if so she's quite good looking.[/QUOTE]She is relatively good looking for my tastes. She is slim, firm small breasts, looks really horny in a sheer condom tube dress with no bra or panties.
Thanks for the help. I am glad this forum is available. I will return the favor.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2026275]She is relatively good looking for my tastes. She is slim, firm small breasts, looks really horny in a sheer condom tube dress with no bra or panties.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Paco69;2026103]Global 1810. I can help you. This little skinny girl is working at Sharks. Her Stagename ist Yvette. She was in Mainhatten and has this scar. Mostly working from Wednesday to Saturday. She is now 25 years and smiles a lot. Good reports to her and giving correct Service.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2026212]Rly she works at the laundry now? Idk makes no sense she should've made enough money so she can invest and / or start her own biz back home.[/QUOTE]Except buying houses and flats, what is good business in Romania? Tourism in Constanza? Pimping for lazy Romanian kings, compare to women treated like shit.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2026363]Except buying houses and flats, what is good business in Romania? Tourism in Constanza? Pimping for lazy Romanian kings, compare to women treated like shit.[/QUOTE]Winter sports in Poiana Brasov, Predeal and Sinaia.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2026363]Pimping for lazy Romanian kings, compare to women treated like shit.[/QUOTE]Some men need to drive thousands of kilometers to brothels to demonstrate they can treat women like queens?
No, to treat them like GFE dreamed angels "insert some ridiculous nickname here" with high vagina potential.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2026212]Rly she works at the laundry now? Idk makes no sense she should've made enough money so she can invest and / or start her own biz back home.[/QUOTE]Today I saw her at the bar. Actually she is a bartender at Sharks now. Smiling, dancing, very active. As a bartender she looks well. Now her name is Andrea. Possibly this is real one.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2026363]Except buying houses and flats, what is good business in Romania? [/QUOTE]Many trucks are registered in Romania since the costs are lower and also Romania provides the drivers which end up based in Western Europe where those Romanian registered trucks get used. Good business. The Romanian drivers sleep in their trucks like you sleep in your igloo car and also drive around in the mountains.
Also low cost manufacturing is growing in Romania.
Do anyone know when will the outdoor area be open again?
[QUOTE=MikeManiego;2026620]Do anyone know when will the outdoor area be open again?[/QUOTE]It's opened. You can take breakfast in the garden.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2026539]Some men need to drive thousands of kilometers to brothels to demonstrate they can treat women like queens?[/QUOTE]+1. FKK caters for all sorts of fantasists.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2026585]Many trucks are registered in Romania since the costs are lower and also Romania provides the drivers which end up based in Western Europe where those Romanian registered trucks get used. Good business. The Romanian drivers sleep in their trucks like you sleep in your igloo car and also drive around in the mountains.
Also low cost manufacturing is growing in Romania.[/QUOTE]We were about Moira, not a truck driver. What good business in Romania for a woman? Except being pimped by a lazy fish in love only for his Mercedes she will pay. I wish WGs who work so hard to make money, buy a home, but only for themselves, not with a lazy guy, nor even with their family. Better they are the only owner.
Some ex Romanian WGs work on brothels desk or bar when they decide they are tired from being fucked all day. I m happy for Monika at LR and of course we should be happy for Moira, even they may make in a month, less than what they could make in a week end, but better mind and body health, which is more important than money when they already bought a home. Even not so big money when working on brothels desk or bar, but much more than 200/300 average salary in so poor Romania with not so many good business for women, why they need to come to make money being fucked by so beautiful guys in brothels, or maybe just because they enjoy so much being fucked? Maybe why, some don't ask me to pay, when I sometimes have some extra girls services, because they just want to be sure I will repeat same actions on next time?
[QUOTE=MikeManiego;2026620]Do anyone know when will the outdoor area be open again?[/QUOTE]It is open now, but freaking cold.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2026539]Winter sports in Poiana Brasov, Predeal and Sinaia.
Some men need to drive thousands of kilometers to brothels to demonstrate they can treat women like queens?[/QUOTE]I'm often said why I don t go to ski in Romania which is a beautiful country. I m sure Romania is a beautiful country, like France is my country. I also know more snow in Romania than in France, Switzerland or Italy. Between Christmas and new year, there was no snow in French mountains, only rocks to have accident, but on 5 January, my LR regular couldn't fly home because Bucharest airport was closed because of too much snow fallen in Bucharest, not only in Brasov mountains. But Switzerland with very extreme now for my runs, Verbier, and Zermatt to ski between amazing ice holes around Klein Matterhorn, you are really lonely on these extreme sides, better to feel how is the snow and not to have accident because nobody to help me, is a wonderful small country. I finish skiing at 5 pm, I drive about 2/3 hours to spend my night in a brothel hotel like History or Swiss and can return for free ride on next day.
About WGs in brothels, I don t need to demonstrate anything and my regulars don't want to have public sex with me, I just get more pleasure treating them like my GF in room, I like the way they look at a martian in brothels, more enjoyable for me than filling all dolls holes. Often, when I wake up at 5 am in the morning to go to work early, not pimp job, and leave Paris after working all day, I feel tired when I start the car, but she knows the way to Duss, FRA or Zurich, and I'm relaxed when I drove 5 hours. Autobahns are very stressful for too many works zones, Germans have world record for this, but very relaxing from free speed zones.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2026569]No, to treat them like GFE dreamed angels "insert some ridiculous nickname here" with high vagina potential.[/QUOTE]Most of Romanian girls say first they have small pussy. For my first room with my LR regular, when we entered in the room, she looked at me and said she would have a problem. I asked why? She answered: my pussy is too small, I was not even up and hard, but I said: I promise You will not have any problem about this, just trust me. At the beginning, I had to be careful, I asked if it was painful, after few rooms she said You don t need to ask all the time, I want you enjoy your time with me. Her small pussy became a woman pussy I can have sporty sex with. More than 30 1 h30 rooms in less than 4 months, my best ever FKK girl for her sensuality and how she becomes hot behind her sophisticated look. For our last room before Easter, she was angry, stressed because I don t do how she wants, nothing about our rooms, so she had pain because she was not relaxed, so I preferred to stop without finishing. I didn't return for her last day before flying home, going straight to ski, so she said: You don't want me anymore? And sending Happy Easter with kisses from Brasov.
I was also able to have 1 hour room with very small vagina, but very pretty Luana. Ro, with missionary and doggy fucking, without hurting her and she let me fuck her in my way. Only lack of sensuality for me, but I would be happy to find such pretty girls more often in other clubs. I like to look at her beauty at LR.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2026771]Most of Romanian girls say first they have small pussy. For my first room with my LR regular, when we entered in the room, she looked at me and said she would have a problem. I asked why? She answered: my pussy is too small, I was not even up and hard, but I said: I promise You will not have any problem about this, just trust me. At the beginning, I had to be careful, I asked if it was painful, after few rooms she said You don t need to ask all the time, I want you enjoy your time with me. Her small pussy became a woman pussy I can have sporty sex with. More than 30 1 h30 rooms in less than 4 months, my best ever FKK girl for her sensuality and how she becomes hot behind her sophisticated look. For our last room before Easter, she was angry, stressed because I don t do how she wants, nothing about our rooms, so she had pain because she was not relaxed, so I preferred to stop without finishing. I didn't return for her last day before flying home, going straight to ski, so she said: You don't want me anymore? And sending Happy Easter with kisses from Brasov.
I was also able to have 1 hour room with very small vagina, but very pretty Luana. Ro, with missionary and doggy fucking, without hurting her and she let me fuck her in my way. Only lack of sensuality for me, but I would be happy to find such pretty girls more often in other clubs. I like to look at her beauty at LR.[/QUOTE]I don't believe that Romanian girls have a different vagina anatomy than other women in the world, in China you have small girls with a large vagina and I know one Romanian girl who is looking quite strong with a extremely tight vagina. You have strong men with a small penis and short guys with a big one.
Visited Shark yesterday, great LU with some new comers, sessioned 2 new girls at least for me but I am noticing that more and more girls (the young one) are less and less well shaved, I think they only do it 1 or 2 times a week with is unpleasant especially when you have oral sex.
Somehow Monday is historically the best FKK day in Sharks to me. Thin lineup, quiet atmosphere, however no-rush session with the girls who are not always available busy days. My today's catch: Mandy. De, Emma. Ro, beautiful Andrea. Ro, Marissa. De (Turkish). Long no-rush sofa chatting before the rooms, except Marissa whose English is poor.
I heard a lot about Mandy's room performance. But reality is way above the expectations.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2026985]Somehow Monday is historically the best FKK day in Sharks to me. Thin lineup, quiet atmosphere, however no-rush session with the girls who are not always available busy days. My today's catch: Mandy. De, Emma. Ro, beautiful Andrea. Ro, Marissa. De (Turkish). Long no-rush sofa chatting before the rooms, except Marissa whose English is poor.
I heard a lot about Mandy's room performance. But reality is way above the expectations.[/QUOTE]Did you happen to receive a 20 euro coupon from the front desk as reported by Optimist?
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2026985]Somehow Monday is historically the best FKK day in Sharks to me. Thin lineup, quiet atmosphere, however no-rush session with the girls who are not always available busy days. My today's catch: Mandy. De, Emma. Ro, beautiful Andrea. Ro, Marissa. De (Turkish). Long no-rush sofa chatting before the rooms, except Marissa whose English is poor.
I heard a lot about Mandy's room performance. But reality is way above the expectations.[/QUOTE]You should have give a another chance to Ebru, I was in a room with her 1 weeks ago and she definitely improved. In my very first session with her I had to deal a small extra for kiss, but she's not like that anymore.
Emma is pretty, her face makes me think about Cara Delevingne, a little. Good services too.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2026539] Some men need to drive thousands of kilometers to brothels to demonstrate they can treat women like queens?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Optimist;2026722]+1. FKK caters for all sorts of fantasists.[/QUOTE]I might be one of those 'fantasists': I drive about 800 km (return included) and I can spend 500 euro on just one girl in one visit. Sorry if it favors inflation and lower average quality of service. But it doesn't happen often when a girl really attracts me. And when it happens I don't look at what I spend. And after some time, it is finished, the attraction fades away. That's my curse, my burden, I am not meant for love. I know in advance the attraction, with time, will go away. I will finish alone, old, grumpy and misanthropic.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2026990]Did you happen to receive a 20 euro coupon from the front desk as reported by Optimist?[/QUOTE]I received this coupon one Monday few month ago. Every Monday I go there I show it, pay 45 Euros, and keep the coupon for the next time. Actually this coupon works for Tuesdays as well. But if you use it on Tuesday they will take this coupon and you will get new only after you pay full price on some next Monday. If you use that coupon Mondays only it will stay with you forever or until policy changed.
This perfectly works for me since I avoid Tuesdays at Sharks because don't like dessous days.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2026985]Somehow Monday is historically the best FKK day in Sharks to me. Thin lineup, quiet atmosphere,
My today's catch: Mandy. De, Emma. Ro, beautiful Andrea. Ro, Marissa. De (Turkish). Long no-rush sofa chatting before the rooms, except Marissa whose English is poor.
I heard a lot about Mandy's room performance. But reality is way above the expectations.[/QUOTE]Is Andrea new girl, since last Monday?
Yes Mandy worth, she really tries to please us with no upselling, Gloria also worth. Not many pretty girls at Sharks, but some lovely and no upselling for me, compare to Oase or Palace. If not even pretty Palace girls think I will pay extra to kiss them or to spend time for DATY for making them cum, they can wait, turning around or warming their ass sitting.
I wait May to return at World and Finca.
[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2026991]You should have give a another chance to Ebru, I was in a room with her 1 weeks ago and she definitely improved.[/QUOTE]I tried Ebru last week as she looked so cute. She was the first starfish I have ever encountered at Sharks. I gave up out of boredom after 20 minutes. And giving up like so is also a first for me at Sharks!
I had tried the purported starfish, Janine, some time ago and that session was better by a mile! I even extended that session.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2027116]I tried Ebru last week as she looked so cute. She was the first starfish I have ever encountered at Sharks. I gave up out of boredom after 20 minutes. And giving up like so is also a first for me at Sharks!
I had tried the purported starfish, Janine, some time ago and that session was better by a mile! I even extended that session.[/QUOTE]TT123 I wud have given up after few minutes if she starfished me I. E. Limit my loss.
After 20 min I wud continue bc I invested too much already. Its like waiting for the buss if its delayed continue waiting or find an alternative, LOL.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2027143]TT123 I wud have given up after few minutes if she starfished me I. E. Limit my loss.
After 20 min I wud continue bc I invested too much already. Its like waiting for the buss if its delayed continue waiting or find an alternative, LOL.[/QUOTE]As she told me that she had been there for only a few days, I thought I could help get her going. So that time was spent by me working hard in missionary. But it was a futile effort.
No point waiting the last 10 minutes as I had noticed Emma, who was sitting on the bar stool just about 5 feet away, eyeing me when I was chatting up Ebru, and I could not wait to get to her.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2024554]I think that might be her but I don't think she's brawny at all. Just a tall girl. Anyways her service was pretty good with me.[/QUOTE]Yes, she is not brawny. But she might give that impression as she has broad shoulders and is very tanned. She is actually soft and cuddly, and had always given me good loving service. It is just unfortunate for me that she is not my preferred slim body type, or I would have taken her more often.
[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2026991]You should have give a another chance to Ebru, I was in a room with her 1 weeks ago and she definitely improved.[/QUOTE]Improved? Sounds interesting. Did she start to kiss? Did she change her type of monotone movement at her BBBJ? Does she react on DATY now? Does she use her hands just to simply touch client's back at least? Does she maintain conversation now? Can you please specify what is improved in her service since April 17th when I sessioned with her?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2027025]Is Andrea new girl, since last Monday?[/QUOTE]I hear your sarcasm Siri. No this is not a new girl. This is very known Romanian Andrea with natural a bit saggy tits. I know that she her face is not your type and someone even called her a little chubby. Regardless. In my opinion she is one of the best looking girls in recent lineup.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2027116]She was the first starfish I have ever encountered at Sharks. [/QUOTE]This makes me thinking that you never sessioned with famous Aurelia (or infamous?).
I saw a post a while ago saying that "Albanian" Anya / Anja is back with the large back tattoo. Can someone confirm a recent sighting?
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2027185]Improved? Sounds interesting. Did she start to kiss? Did she change her type of monotone movement at her BBBJ? Does she react on DATY now? Does she use her hands just to simply touch client's back at least? Does she maintain conversation now? Can you please specify what is improved in her service since April 17th when I sessioned with her?[/QUOTE]She always kissed (with me) but now it is not an 'unofficial' extra anymore (I have to mention I was the one who proposed an extra tip for that). CIM is possible now, which was not the case before. Difficult to answer your other questions: I prefer when a girl is natural and doesn't fake. I think she's just a normal girl who just don't know how. Expressing or having pleasure is maybe not what she allows to herself, even though some signs are uncontrollable. So if you guide her, this could help. The thing is I don't bother to take the direction of the operations.
As for her conversation, her English level is probably too low, but is it really important? Just be patient with her, I don't think it is a question of bad will, I talked with her and without asking it she gave me her real first name (I already forget). Ebru, her nick name, is actually of Turkish origin.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2027242]This makes me thinking that you never sessioned with famous Aurelia (or infamous?).[/QUOTE]I certainly have! Quite a few times in fact. I faulted her for not wanting to give me passionate kisses; but she was not a starfish with me.
I would normally not repeat a girl who does not give me good kissing, but she was such a beauty.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2027398]I certainly have! Quite a few times in fact. I faulted her for not wanting to give me passionate kisses; but she was not a starfish with me.[/QUOTE]Only once for me with pretty Aurelia at Samya, when she left Magnum, before a short try at Oase, before Sharks, she was so pretty on this Sunday night with her pony tail, she didn't like Turkish Samya. Lack of real kisses, lack of sensuality, not woman type enough for me, so never repeated at Sharks, but not at all a starfish, quite sporty for sex, a real woman vagina, she got trained for her beginning in brothels business, for 9 months at Magnum jungle with wild animals. She tour now at Globe since months, not anymore turning around, smiling, she may not be so bad to get expensive business and not being fired from Swiss clients complaints. Globe job don't seem so difficult for her, same for Jessika silicon / Miky, or Mio GT or Katalina or Isabella, when Aurelia was fired at least twice from Sharks, and was going to work at World.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2027185]...Did she start to kiss? Did she change her type of monotone movement at her BBBJ? Does she react on DATY now?... Does she maintain conversation now? ...[/QUOTE]Ebru on Mar 28.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2016279] ...3) Ebu: 1730-1900, E150, red long hair (originally blonde), cellulitic be-cup, slim, so-so pretty, GND, working for four years at Sharks with interval. In a room caressing, LFK, 45 min DATY with her complete silence leading her to wiggling for the last 10 min, her sudden suspension of DATY, hugging, doggie, missionary, fingering DATY, toilette break, BBBJ, 69, cow-girl and time-up. May repeat...[/QUOTE].
Yama Yama,
I think your Ebu is a different girl. This Ebru is brand new, and does not fit your physical description.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2027239]I hear your sarcasm Siri. No this is not a new girl. This is very known Romanian Andrea with natural a bit saggy tits. I know that she her face is not your type and someone even called her a little chubby. Regardless. In my opinion she is one of the best looking girls in recent lineup.[/QUOTE]You misunderstood my words, I don't know your Andrea. At Sharks, I only knew very pretty Andrea. Bu who began to claim being Ukrainian and turned to upselling. I'm always interested by beautiful girls and I miss some who worked at Sharks, one new pretty, classy and GFE would be enough.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2027008]I received this coupon one Monday few month ago. Every Monday I go there I show it, pay 45 Euros, and keep the coupon for the next time. Actually this coupon works for Tuesdays as well. But if you use it on Tuesday they will take this coupon and you will get new only after you pay full price on some next Monday. If you use that coupon Mondays only it will stay with you forever or until policy changed.
This perfectly works for me since I avoid Tuesdays at Sharks because don't like dessous days.[/QUOTE]You are right, it is exactly the same for me, yesterday I paid 45 and kept the coupon. Never tried on a Tuesday.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2025292]Your experience is highly valued to many if not only me.
I have be never dared to ask my Sharks regular if I can take another girl with us. She only brought it up because I think she was getting bored with just me. I like her a lot and wanted to keep her as my Sharks girl, and I almost never want to make her mad, but she wanted to watch me fuck other girls, especially Romanian girls. She liked it when I fucked them hard, she liked that I fucked them like a piece of meat and when I get really rough with them. She likes it when I get physical, because I'm always so gentle with her. I treat her like a real friend and is always gentle with her. She wasn't jealous from me fucking the other girls hard or how I enjoyed them. I would finger my regular when I fuck these other Romanian girls and she would get much much more wetter than if she was just with me. Her pussy would be dripping watching me fuck these other Romanian girls. I've been with my Sharks regular for almost a year now and I've never felt her this wet, I mean dripping wet. In fact I can say she was never wet with just me, but when I fucked these girls she picked, she was wet and wild.[/QUOTE]If I understand well your words, your Sharks favorite ask you to treat some Romanian girls like Ester, for hard sex on a piece of meat, as a weapon for what she thinks about Romanian girls? Rather than taking care of you to give you pleasure when you pay her? I think Ester, for her kind behavior, doesn't deserve to be treated like this. For my experience, my number 1 at the moment who is my best ever girl in FKK, classy sophisticated, sensual, hot Romanian, said to me when seeing me speaking with my beloved medusa. Ro: I m not like this girl. I answered: I chose you, but don't you do same job than her? Doesn't your favorite who doesn't seem to like Romanian girls, do same job than them, going to room for 50 €?
About your bad mind favorite, I had one favorite who said to me I was very lucky she always did behave lovely with me for 1 year, so I thought it would be very difficult to find a new high level girl like her, but I found high class Katalina and my new girl since 4 months who is more hot in room than her. In brothels, many lovely girls, mostly for me Romanians, just have to find them.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2027443]Yama Yama,
I think your Ebu is a different girl. This Ebru is brand new, and does not fit your physical description.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Looks like I got Ebu mixed up with Ebru. YY.
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2027325]I saw a post a while ago saying that "Albanian" Anya / Anja is back with the large back tattoo. Can someone confirm a recent sighting?[/QUOTE]I didn't see her last Wednesday but I also left early. She was at the club 2-3 weeks ago for sure.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2026757]I'm often said why I don t go to ski in Romania which is a beautiful country. I m sure Romania is a beautiful country, like France is my country...[/QUOTE]I was in Bucharest last week on a quick business trip. I must say that I was a little disappointed, regarding the girls. I was expecting to see a lot of stunners everywhere but I barely see any. Even in a hotel, I didn't find any staff that were good looking. Maybe there are all in Germany, LOL. Compare that to Brazil, I would have gone to the room with most of the staff in a 4 or 5 stars hotel.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2027419] when Aurelia was fired at least twice from Sharks.[/QUOTE]Why she was fired. Is reason known?
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2027488]I didn't see her last Wednesday but I also left early. She was at the club 2-3 weeks ago for sure.[/QUOTE]She grasped a couple of times last Sunday. It looks like she was busy most of time.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2027398]I certainly have! Quite a few times in fact. I faulted her for not wanting to give me passionate kisses; but she was not a starfish with me.
I would normally not repeat a girl who does not give me good kissing, but she was such a beauty.[/QUOTE]Aurelia was one of my worst disappointing at entire FKK history. Such a huge gap between angel's look, friendly smile in common area and totally starfish behavior in the room. I ended up session prematurely without popping and never attempt to repeat.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2027488]I didn't see her last Wednesday but I also left early. She was at the club 2-3 weeks ago for sure.
I was in Bucharest last week on a quick business trip. I must say that I was a little disappointed, regarding the girls. I was expecting to see a lot of stunners everywhere but I barely see any. Even in a hotel, I didn't find any staff that were good looking. Maybe there are all in Germany, LOL. Compare that to Brazil, I would have gone to the room with most of the staff in a 4 or 5 stars hotel.[/QUOTE]Like each time I visited USA, so disappointed by girls look, so many fat, even in Miami Beach, or California, compare to Russia. Amazing Nevski prospect in Saint Petersburg with models on high heels walking in the snow, some drinking bottle of vodka. Superb natural blond pole dancer from Golden Ladies for 400 USD from midnight to 9 am because I was busy on next day, I should have managed to cancel saying I was sick from her, to stay with her to keep on enjoying her, because not dancing on next evening when I returned. So beautiful Russian women, but I found in FKK real Romanian beauties for my tastes: sophisticated Madi, natural blond beauties Isabella and Alina Bahama, brunette Sara / Francesca / Megan, blond Nelly / Raïssa and Luana at LR and for high class woman aura, Katalina. When I started in FKK on end of 2012 , I was attracted by Russian or German blond types, I never went to black hair Romanians, but at more than 4 am on 10 May 2014 night, I noticed a model walk, so I looked at her walking with her curvy ass, I went to her, I enjoyed so many times her perfect care, for hair, sophisticated make up, skin, shaving, nails, teeth, breathe and GF behavior, so I learned to love dark hair Romanians with her, only Megan could compete for care, when no more high black socks, and having same feet and hands nails. When I arrived at Aca on end of September 2015 , it was just dark hair Romanians paradise, so many fresh natural beauties to enjoy and I did, with Kate. Ro for more than 1 year and half.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2027510]She grasped a couple of times last Sunday. It looks like she was busy most of time.[/QUOTE]Albanian, at least for tattoo, Anja?
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2027498]Why she was fired. Is reason known?[/QUOTE]I just know she was fired for about 2 weeks, went to work at World and came back to Sharks, twice. She doesn't seem to have problems with staff at Globe now, because when girls are fired there, they are not allowed to come back. She seems to be O with Swiss money business. All girls I met there, most were working in Germany before, said they were lucky to work at Globe, I think they meant about money made.
I found History or Swiss, less expensive than Globe, 178/198 vs 280/ h, with only about 15 girls vs 40/50 , but found sometimes 5 really attractive girls I never found at Globe, and great services level, with extra offered on many times, even on first room, with lovely Romanian girls of course.
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2027325]I saw a post a while ago saying that "Albanian" Anya / Anja is back with the large back tattoo. Can someone confirm a recent sighting?[/QUOTE]She was in the club last Saturday.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2027498]Why she was fired. Is reason known?[/QUOTE]The reason she told me is that she was seen when she was escorting with one of her clients.
True or false, I do not know.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2027572]I just know she was fired for about 2 weeks, went to work at World and came back to Sharks, twice. She doesn't seem to have problems with staff at Globe now, because when girls are fired there, they are not allowed to come back. She seems to be O with Swiss money business. All girls I met there, most were working in Germany before, said they were lucky to work at Globe, I think they meant about money made.
I found History or Swiss, less expensive than Globe, 178/198 vs 280/ h, with only about 15 girls vs 40/50 , but found sometimes 5 really attractive girls I never found at Globe, and great services level, with extra offered on many times, even on first room, with lovely Romanian girls of course.[/QUOTE]Many girls (I Know) who tried the swiss clubs are coming back to Germany because it seems to be hard job there, need to stay many hours in the club, another point of concern is that it seems that a significant number of girls need to take drug to be able to deal with this pressure.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2027398]I certainly have! Quite a few times in fact. I faulted her for not wanting to give me passionate kisses; but she was not a starfish with me.
I would normally not repeat a girl who does not give me good kissing, but she was such a beauty.[/QUOTE]I agree. Not a starfish by any means. Sure virtually zero kissing first time. I gave her a chance to improve and she did. Aurelia started off with a very pessimistic attitude with customers, but she can get to like some of them better over time.
Hello,
I am planning to visit Sharks soon. I will probably use plane. Can anyone describe me how is it during the night? Are there still girls at 1 am? Or does most girls have already left? Is it still crowded? Is it preferable to visit on a particular day if we would like to stay late?
[QUOTE=KapteinFab;2027790]Hello,
I am planning to visit Sharks soon. I will probably use plane. Can anyone describe me how is it during the night? Are there still girls at 1 am? Or does most girls have already left? Is it still crowded? Is it preferable to visit on a particular day if we would like to stay late?[/QUOTE]Definitively after 1 AM is not for me at least the best time to visit, some girls are tired, some man drunk too much but if you go on Friday or Saturday you should be able to find what you are looking for.
[QUOTE=KapteinFab;2027790]Hello,
I am planning to visit Sharks soon. I will probably use plane. Can anyone describe me how is it during the night? Are there still girls at 1 am? Or does most girls have already left? Is it still crowded? Is it preferable to visit on a particular day if we would like to stay late?[/QUOTE]I was there beyond 2 am one time. It seems that by 1 am, most girls are either gone or are in rooms with their customer. There are still some by 2 am, but the selection is limited. Better to start early if you can get early landing flight.
[QUOTE=KapteinFab;2027790]Hello,
I am planning to visit Sharks soon. I will probably use plane. Can anyone describe me how is it during the night? Are there still girls at 1 am? Or does most girls have already left? Is it still crowded? Is it preferable to visit on a particular day if we would like to stay late?[/QUOTE]Not the best casting after 1 am and Turkish nights.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2027560]Like each time I visited USA, so disappointed by girls look, so many fat, even in Miami Beach, or California, compare to Russia. Amazing Nevski prospect in Saint Petersburg with models on high heels walking in the snow, some drinking bottle of vodka. Superb natural blond pole dancer from Golden Ladies for 400 USD from midnight to 9 am because I was busy on next day, I should have managed to cancel saying I was sick from her, to stay with her to keep on enjoying her, because not dancing on next evening when I returned. So beautiful Russian women, but I found in FKK real Romanian beauties for my tastes: sophisticated Madi, natural blond beauties Isabella and Alina Bahama, brunette Sara / Francesca / Megan, blond Nelly / Rassa and Luana at LR and for high class woman aura, Katalina. When I started in FKK on end of 2012 , I was attracted by Russian or German blond types, I never went to black hair Romanians, but at more than 4 am on 10 May 2014 night, I noticed a model walk, so I looked at her walking with her curvy ass, I went to her, I enjoyed so many times her perfect care, for hair, sophisticated make up, skin, shaving, nails, teeth, breathe and GF behavior, so I learned to love dark hair Romanians with her, only Megan could compete for care, when no more high black socks, and having same feet and hands nails. When I arrived at Aca on end of September 2015 , it was just dark hair Romanians paradise, so many fresh natural beauties to enjoy and I did, with Kate. Ro for more than 1 year and half.[/QUOTE]Hello!
OK, I need your help, I only went to Sharks on week end and Sundays was pretty busy and lots of attractive girls, I love Nastia or Nastya most amazing big natural tits ever, not the best fuck but a real hottie natural. I like Janine if she still here I fucked her only once cause I know she is paid by a guy to wait and she was hot not best fuck, there a girl slovak on the bar side table fake silicon beautiful playmate style very kind and hot good service, one romanian blue eyes always wearing some kind of jean shorts where you see the pussy amazing blowjob. I saw you guys talk about Madi don't know who she is. Last year in March I met a blonde Romanian very pretty face natural boobs beautiful her real name was Noemie I don't know where she went I came back in November she was not there, now I come in June 4-8 I hope to see her so my question how is sharks Tuesday Wednesday Thursday? I will be there and wonder if enough pretty girls with the warm weather.
Please answer me guys! I'm from USA, hookers shit ones are few hundreds dollars so for hot ones it's very expensive, FKK is a gold mine I would marry so many talent working there it's time to appreciate that! European have best bodies I would love to just tour FKK for a year!
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2027564]Albanian, at least for tattoo, Anja?[/QUOTE]It is impossible to get confused with Albanian tattoo on her back.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;2027595]The reason she told me is that she was seen when she was escorting with one of her clients.
True or false, I do not know.[/QUOTE]But what's wrong with that? Is that forbidden at Sharks only or at other FKK as well?
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2027975]But what's wrong with that? Is that forbidden at Sharks only or at other FKK as well?[/QUOTE]Going out with customers and not at the club is frowned upon since the club loses both the girls entry fee and the customer's entry fee.
It is akin to many employers who frown upon employees working for someone else when working for them or using contacts that an employee made during their job to take or do business outside of work hours for themselves.
So for most clubs it is forbidden just like in real life.
[QUOTE=TrueNature;2027954]Hello!
OK, I need your help, I only went to Sharks on week end and Sundays was pretty busy and lots of attractive girls, I love Nastia or Nastya most amazing big natural tits ever, not the best fuck but a real hottie natural. I like Janine if she still here I fucked her only once cause I know she is paid by a guy to wait and she was hot not best fuck, there a girl slovak on the bar side table fake silicon beautiful playmate style very kind and hot good service, one romanian blue eyes always wearing some kind of jean shorts where you see the pussy amazing blowjob. I saw you guys talk about Madi don't know who she is. Last year in March I met a blonde Romanian very pretty face natural boobs beautiful her real name was Noemie I don't know where she went I came back in November she was not there, now I come in June 4-8 I hope to see her so my question how is sharks Tuesday Wednesday Thursday? I will be there and wonder if enough pretty girls with the warm weather.
Please answer me guys! I'm from USA, hookers shit ones are few hundreds dollars so for hot ones it's very expensive, FKK is a gold mine I would marry so many talent working there it's time to appreciate that! European have best bodies I would love to just tour FKK for a year![/QUOTE]On Wednesday with discount entry 50 , many girls are working, can be crowded on day. Tuesday is rather slow for casting, Thursday should be better. If You find good girls on Wednesday, ask them if they work on Thursday?
Enjoy beautiful Romanian girls, unfortunately not many at the moment at Sharks, but still better than in USA.
Your Slovak girl may be blond silicon barbi Kaira?
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2027974]It is impossible to get confused with Albanian tattoo on her back.[/QUOTE]I know for Albanian tattoo, but some said she is Romanian. I always ask girls where they come from, not because it's important, but to feel if they say fake, I enjoy when girls claim to be Russian or Ukrainian, but don't understand the faintest Russian word, or claim to be Spanish or Italian. On first time I came to Karin the body, she smiled and answered she is Spanish, so I answered: bad luck, I don t like so much Spanish women, which is not true, so she said: I live in Spain for long time but I was born in Romania, so I said: I prefer this and you are pretty like a Romanian woman, so now if You want, we can try together, and we went and repeated. Unfortunately, none never said me being French, it would be too funny. Stephanie with glasses is real French. I also met Violetta Bab or Miki Westside. Ch but met for very hot room at Swiss. Ch, who know quite well France and speak quite good French, nearly like fucking a French girl, speaking French in room.
Anyway, I never asked to Anja because I don't like her tattoo meaning, but she has nice behavior and that's the most important. She deserves a try.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2027974]It is impossible to get confused with Albanian tattoo on her back.[/QUOTE]She is Albanian and speaks Albanian. She was a friend with Bella, a blonde Albanian ex-bar girl.
There is a guy obsessed with the idea that she was imposed her tattoo by her Albanian pimp. But this is not true. Better to write just about what we really know.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2027975]But what's wrong with that? Is that forbidden at Sharks only or at other FKK as well?[/QUOTE]It must be said that she received a penalty at the time rather than she was fired. Normally, a girl gets a warning when she has been seen her out-of-club activity with a club client. As Aurelia was multidisciplinary, she took a penalty of a few weeks.
TrueNature: wednesdays are very busy at Sharks. Cheaper entry that day. Tuesdays are slower. Thursdays somewhere in between those two.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2027975]But what's wrong with that? Is that forbidden at Sharks only or at other FKK as well?[/QUOTE]It is forbidden in most of the clubs, you and the girl must be very discreet also not the best thing to do for me, it is better to meet her in the club, safer for you except you want to have a long term relation with her.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2027996]Going out with customers and not at the club is frowned upon since the club loses both the girls entry fee and the customer's entry fee.
It is akin to many employers who frown upon employees working for someone else when working for them or using contacts that an employee made during their job to take or do business outside of work hours for themselves.[/QUOTE]First sentence: Yes, that's it. Second sentence: The girls are NOT employed by the club so the analogy is not quite spot on.
HB.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;2028025]She is Albanian and speaks Albanian. She was a friend with Bella, a blonde Albanian ex-bar girl.
.[/QUOTE]Is Bella gone? Sweet lady.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2027898]Not the best casting after 1 am and Turkish nights.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=DaWong949;2027873]I was there beyond 2 am one time. It seems that by 1 am, most girls are either gone or are in rooms with their customer. There are still some by 2 am, but the selection is limited. Better to start early if you can get early landing flight.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your answers guys. Sirioja, what do you mean by Turkish nights? Why would they come if the selection is limited? And why would the club close as late as 5 am if no more activity? It might be expensive to pay employee to work as late?
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2028081]Second sentence: The girls are NOT employed by the club so the analogy is not quite spot on.
HB.[/QUOTE]But that was not what Bitumen ment. For us it is good they do it sometimes though... so lets hope it continues...
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2028017]I know for Albanian tattoo, but some said she is Romanian. I always ask girls where they come from, not because it's important, but to feel if they say fake, I enjoy when girls claim to be Russian or Ukrainian, but don't understand the faintest Russian word, or claim to be Spanish or Italian.[/QUOTE]I love it too when a girl claims to speak this language or that, then you break into the language and they don't understand a darn thing you're saying! Busted! LOL! I wish they would just state the truth too. I like Romanian! A monger just needs a break every now and then. That's all! Well, I admit that I am a huge "flag collector" too hehehe! I can claim the Albanian flag, having fucked two Albanian tutes in a menage a trois in Madrid, then did my favorite of the two solo on another night. Will always remember her as she liked to be fucked hard! If I wasn't banging the breath out of her, she would demand, "Harder"! Yep, yep. One quality fuck she was! I claim thee Albania for The Cane!
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2028081]First sentence: Yes, that's it. Second sentence: The girls are NOT employed by the club so the analogy is not quite spot on.
HB.[/QUOTE]Like Pistons correctly said, that is not what I meant. Take it easy.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2028032]TrueNature: wednesdays are very busy at Sharks. Cheaper entry that day. Tuesdays are slower. Thursdays somewhere in between those two.[/QUOTE]OK. Great, thanks a lot! I didn't know about Wednesdays. Great to know. Now one last thing I been to many FKK Düsseldorf- Berlin- Vienna, I'm in Frankfurt 3 days should I drive one day to Stuttgart Paradise or Sakura or drive to Dusseldorf for Living Room Acapulco or is Sharks the best option as far as quantity quality of girls. I just don't want drive for nothing better, 200 km each way is OK. Once I drove 400 km to Zurich and glove was very average and I drove back on same day. I could have stay at hessen instead. I understand you can find a gem in each but I want good average and lots of choices. Again thank you for your opinion.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2028017]I know for Albanian tattoo.[/QUOTE]Of course, I wish to Anja and to all other prostitutes, to be free to decide where and when they want to go to work, at small Worms or at Bumsalp. Ch? When those who know a bit Zurich brothels, know Bumsalp, because Aphrodisia brother, is not anymore the best for business, compare to Globe. Ch. Who also know if Worms casting worth to visit?
On the other hand, I was happy for her to receive message from my ex very regular at Sharks who decided to trust advices and move to better business, so, even I put ski out of the car, I will have to drive once more to Globe.
Many ex Hessen girls working there now, Swiss money is attractive. Just my thanks, for free, to her.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;2028025]She is Albanian and speaks Albanian. She was a friend with Bella, a blonde Albanian ex-bar girl.
There is a guy obsessed with the idea that she was imposed her tattoo by her Albanian pimp. But this is not true. Better to write just about what we really know.[/QUOTE]Is this Anja or Anya 165 cm tall blonde with big tattoo on here back. My friend recommended her to me on my last trip and said her BJ was amazing. She was not my type but I went with.
Her BJ. Not bad, but I was drained that day and could not come. Nice girl though.
[QUOTE=TrueNature;2028281]OK. Great, thanks a lot! I didn't know about Wednesdays. Great to know. Now one last thing I been to many FKK Dsseldorf- Berlin- Vienna, I'm in Frankfurt 3 days should I drive one day to Stuttgart Paradise or Sakura or drive to Dusseldorf for Living Room Acapulco or is Sharks the best option as far as quantity quality of girls. I just don't want drive for nothing better, 200 km each way is OK. Once I drove 400 km to Zurich and glove was very average and I drove back on same day. I could have stay at hessen instead. I understand you can find a gem in each but I want good average and lots of choices. Again thank you for your opinion.[/QUOTE]In terms of quantity, no other clubs in the World can beat Hessen Big five clubs. I was like you, went to Globe for quality, but found it was really average. I was not driving, I took a train back next day though I prepaid expensive Zurich hotel for two nights. Live and learn. On my last trip, I drove to LR, GT and ACA. For two days, I found it was good to visit some new clubs, but I sure did not see any must have stunners there.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2027996]Going out with customers and not at the club is frowned upon since the club loses both the girls entry fee and the customer's entry fee.
It is akin to many employers who frown upon employees working for someone else when working for them or using contacts that an employee made during their job to take or do business outside of work hours for themselves.
So for most clubs it is forbidden just like in real life.[/QUOTE]Ok. This makes sense. But how club management knows what girls and customers do outside the club? Do they spy?
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2028366]Ok. This makes sense. But how club management knows what girls and customers do outside the club? Do they spy?[/QUOTE]If she is seen, as she leaves the club together with the customer is one possibility. Or someone squeals on the girl - Another jealous girl, or the customer himself thoughtlessly bragging about it.
Gentlemen don't kiss and tell is a good adage in this situation.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2028240]I love it too when a girl claims to speak this language or that, then you break into the language and they don't understand a darn thing you're saying! Busted! LOL! I wish they would just state the truth too. I like Romanian! A monger just needs a break every now and then. That's all! Well, I admit that I am a huge "flag collector" too hehehe! I can claim the Albanian flag, having fucked two Albanian tutes in a menage a trois in Madrid, then did my favorite of the two solo on another night. Will always remember her as she liked to be fucked hard! If I wasn't banging the breath out of her, she would demand, "Harder"! Yep, yep. One quality fuck she was! I claim thee Albania for The Cane![/QUOTE]Now, when a FKK girl answers me she is Romanian, it s like she said she will be good with me, but I prefer when they say being from Brasov, Braila, Sibiu, Craiova, Timisoara, Cluj, rather than all coming from Bucharest, or Constanza when they come from Moldavian part. I liked when Katalina said she comes from very poor Moldovan part. Some Moldavian Romanian are more Slavian type, blond blue eyes.
I also liked very much, even it was difficult to communicate, because she doesn't speak English, small, cute, blond Mersi. Hu saying coming from a Southern small Hungarian town I didn't even know, rather than Budapest. Mersi is so fresh in mind and behavior, a real pleasure in land of lies.
I hate girls claiming to be Russian, even a very few are, like Katea, Ilona ex Tatiana Oase. They don't need to lie, they just have to be able to be good. Usually, fakes go with low level.
But some guys can compete with prostitutes for lies. I don't know why girls don't believe me when I say I'm the king of Mars planet.
About Anja, in doggy, you can read nationality.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2028382]If she is seen, as she leaves the club together with the customer is one possibility. Or someone squeals on the girl - Another jealous girl, or the customer himself thoughtlessly bragging about it.
Gentlemen don't kiss and tell is a good adage in this situation.[/QUOTE]Agree jealousy between the girls is terrible, and the girl is also so happy to share with the others her experiences outside the club.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2028366]Ok. This makes sense. But how club management knows what girls and customers do outside the club? Do they spy?[/QUOTE]About 4 days back I saw Deutsche girl who went with only 1 customer. My thought is, he came with this girl and left with this girl but not sure about the fact but when I asked this girl if she would have any time for room she said no I am booked for rest of the day. At the end I got the story from Aphrodita that this middle eastern guy from america gave her 5 k for 5 days what she needed to go to school, and her friend said she never went with anyone else and now she went back to school. Man She was 11 out of 10.
Not sure but he maintains very low profile but seems like all the girls knows him as he gives distinctive lolly candy. Nice guy talks OK, does not look that rich but 5 k for 5 days. There is no shortage of fools.
I don't think clubs care, as long as they have inflow of new girls everyday.
Yes Bella is gone. She is now doing a day job. Let's hope a nice career for this kind and beautiful girl!
[QUOTE=Takedown;2028207]Is Bella gone? Sweet lady.[/QUOTE]
Anja is always long brunette, never blonde.
[QUOTE=DaWong949;2028339]Is this Anja or Anya 165 cm tall blonde with big tattoo on here back. My friend recommended her to me on my last trip and said her BJ was amazing. She was not my type but I went with.
Her BJ. Not bad, but I was drained that day and could not come. Nice girl though.[/QUOTE]
Normally, we lack a bit of imagination and often go to known places (eg Zeil in Frankfurt). In this case, it is not difficult to be seen either by other girls or by other clients who are always jealous and report to direction about this.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2028366]Ok. This makes sense. But how club management knows what girls and customers do outside the club? Do they spy?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2028366]Ok. This makes sense. But how club management knows what girls and customers do outside the club? Do they spy?[/QUOTE]They do not care WHAT they do. They find out that a girl met with a client outside and that's it. Often results in a temporary or permanent ban from the club. Some clubs care more, others less.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2028486]They do not care WHAT they do. They find out that a girl met with a client outside and that's it. Often results in a temporary or permanent ban from the club. Some clubs care more, others less.[/QUOTE]Right some clubs care more, others less. But club rules in this case neither black nor white, they decide in the grey zone and usually it depends which "standing" the girl has at her club.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2028486]They do not care WHAT they do. They find out that a girl met with a client outside and that's it. Often results in a temporary or permanent ban from the club. Some clubs care more, others less.
HB.[/QUOTE]So they are not employees and do not have an employment contract with Sharks but they are freelancers, yet they can not freelance outside Sharks?
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2028566]So they are not employees and do not have an employment contract with Sharks but they are freelancers, yet they can not freelance outside Sharks? 🙄.[/QUOTE]Sure they can. But the club might decide to use his right to deny entry to anybody they don't want in their club. Coincidentally that might be a girl meeting clients outside.
HB.
[QUOTE=DaWong949;2028360]In terms of quantity, no other clubs in the World can beat Hessen Big five clubs. I was like you, went to Globe for quality, but found it was really average. I was not driving, I took a train back next day though I prepaid expensive Zurich hotel for two nights. Live and learn. On my last trip, I drove to LR, GT and ACA. For two days, I found it was good to visit some new clubs, but I sure did not see any must have stunners there.[/QUOTE]I have 15 days to visit, can I ask the best suggestions?
I'm landing in Frankfurt next week, I was thinking Oase / Sharks, maybe World.
Maybe LR ACA GT in DDorf, no car rental so transport will be very tricky.
I was think about hitting the clubs in Vienna for a few days can anyone opine?
Is that worth the travel there for GT FP Maxim Laufthaus etc.
[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2028643]I have 15 days to visit, can I ask the best suggestions?
I'm landing in Frankfurt next week, I was thinking Oase / Sharks, maybe World.
Maybe LR ACA GT in DDorf, no car rental so transport will be very tricky.
I was think about hitting the clubs in Vienna for a few days can anyone opine?
Is that worth the travel there for GT FP Maxim Laufthaus etc.[/QUOTE]15 Days. You have plenty of time. If I were you, I would spend 2 days in each clubs. All big four clubs in Frankfurt area is pretty PT friendly. LR ACA is also ok for PT. GT is not good if you don't have car. Some clubs in Kohn may be good for PT too. Have fun.
Hello gentlemen,
I and my friend reached Frankfurt Airport at 7 am. Rented a Skoda Rapid from Sixt for 7 days for E 316. Checked into Hotel B&B, Darmstadt. Reached Sharks at 12 noon. Paid E 65 entry fee. There were about 10-15 girls and roughly the same number of men present. As the day passed, the LU became stronger. There were close to 100 girls and and approximately 120 men when we left the club at around 9.30 pm. I sessioned with the following girls:
-Katrina (Greece): tall girl, big boobs and ass, black hair. As soon as we entered the room, she said only normal BBBJ and sex in E 50, no kissing. She tried upselling kissing, CIM for another E 50. Told her I'm okay with normal BBBJ and sex. She gave me a 5 min BBBJ and then asked me to fuck her. I fucked her in 4 positions but couldn't cum because of no kissing and constant upselling. Asked her to finish me through a blow job but she denied saying she will not blow me again because I'm only paying E 50. She finished me through a hand job instead. We were out of the room in 20 minutes. She looks good (pornstar type) and has a great body. But she has a sharky attitude.
- Bianca (RO I guess): Tall, blond, juicy lips, nice tits. Sits on the sofa near the pole. Wanted to session with her last year but could not since she was always busy. Did not want to miss the opportunity this time. Sat with her for a pre zimmer chat and just like Katrina, she clearly mentioned that no kissing, no DATY and only blow job and fucking in E 50 for 30 mins. I offered her 100 E for 1 HR with kissing but she said E 100 is for 30 minutes with kissing, BBBJ and good sex. I agreed for E 100 30 mins. Started with a few LFKs, sucked her lovely boobs to my heart's content, she gave me a nice BBBJ, I gave DATY, fucked her hard in 3 different positions. I came and we were out of the room in 25 mins. She looks good and has a great body. But she has a sharky attitude and is only interested in E 100 30 min rooms.
- Martina (half Polish half Bulgarian): blond, average body, small tits. Had sessions with her during my visit last year and she was the only one I met in sharks last year who gave me a complete GFE. Wanted to end my day on a sweet note and hence, approached her. She remembered me from last time. We had 10 min pre zimmer chat and then went into the room. Started with with crazy long DFKs and these continued throughout the session. She gave me an out of the world BBBJ, then I gave her DATY, sucked her small soft boobs hard and fucked her in 3 positions. Then had a smoke together inside the room and left the room after 30 minutes. She is not a looker but has excellent technique and GFE attitude. Not a time watcher at all. I highly recommend her to fellow members.
Also met a lot of other girls like Magda, Denise, and many others whose names I can't remember.
Concluding thoughts: the club has a great LU in terms of number of girls and optics. But many of the girls I met seemed to give average and unenthusiastic service for E 50 for 30 mins. Most of the girls I spoke to were upselling and wanted another E 50 for kissing, DATY and GFE. It's a good place to enjoy seeing very beautiful ladies walking around naked and coming to you trying to convince you to fuck them. But service levels in E 50 for 30 mins can't be assured.
If I return back to this club, it will be more because I get to see 100+ beautiful naked ladies and less because of good VFM service.
Will be heading to LR tomorrow and will post the field report in its respective thread.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2028580]Sure they can. But the club might decide to use his right to deny entry to anybody they don't want in their club. Coincidentally that might be a girl meeting clients outside.
HB.[/QUOTE]I've been asked a couple of times by the Sharks girls if I want to take them to my hotel room for the day and / or night. I politely declined since this does not into my scenario. I have no problems to get decent escort girl in Toronto. I travel to Hesse just for FKK atmosphere, which I like. This make me thinking that escort outside of the club is fairly common for FKK girls. The matter is will they caught or not.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2028737]I've been asked a couple of times by the Sharks girls if I want to take them to my hotel room for the day and / or night. I politely declined since this does not into my scenario. I have no problems to get decent escort girl in Toronto. I travel to Hesse just for FKK atmosphere, which I like. This make me thinking that escort outside of the club is fairly common for FKK girls. The matter is will they caught or not.[/QUOTE]Same for me, I want to enjoy FKK atmosphere, don't want to spend more than 500 Euro on one girl on the same day while I can spend the same on 4-8 girls.
[QUOTE=JohnyBravo;2028733]Hello gentlemen,
If I return back to this club, it will be more because I get to see 100+ beautiful naked ladies and less because of good VFM service.
Cheers![/QUOTE]I agree , girls service is not good in general , maybe they think tourist will not return. Though in my case I might spend 50-100 euro on a girl. But i increase to 500 euro in 3 visits(4 days) if I found her service good. So I guess FKK girls should understand this :)
[QUOTE=Tuber19;2028756]I agree , girls service is not good in general , maybe they think tourist will not return. Though in my case I might spend 50-100 euro on a girl. But i increase to 500 euro in 3 visits(4 days) if I found her service good. So I guess FKK girls should understand this :)[/QUOTE]Sharks became a fuck factory for not demanding tourists, with too many average GND. But can still find good services girls like Mandy. De, Sandra. De if still working, sweet Marina. Lat, blond Gloria. Ro, blond Patricia now with silicon, tall blond, blue eyes Erika. Ro if still there. Anja is not the sweetest GFE but nice girl.
Past beauties like Aurelia and now Megan are now at Globe. Ch for better business.
[QUOTE=JohnyBravo;2028733]...- Bianca....She looks good and has a great body. But she has a sharky attitude and is only interested in E 100 30 min rooms....[/QUOTE]Just for your reference.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2016279] ...5) Bianca: 2230-2310 (excluding 20 min as tip) E100+E50 for covered fingering, the second session in this FKK tour. I became enslaved once to her beauty and now to her persistency. As a slave I was ordered to be in a cave, massage her, make her cum with covered fingering DATY even though I was totally exhausted by the previous sessions. As a reward she gave me mediocre BBBJ, and then let me fuck her for 3 min. Ordered to repeat as far as I visit Sharks....[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2016276]....4) Bianca: 0030-0125 for 100 E and covered fingering for 50 E, the first time in the past four months, one of my favorites at Sharks. In a room my 10 min massage on her back, erotic massage, 8 min DATY, 8 min missionary with her helpful fingering leading her to O, covered fingering leading her second intensive O, my second 15 min massage on her. Have to repeat as a slave to her beauty....[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnyBravo;2028733]- Bianca (RO I guess): but she said E 100 is for 30 minutes with kissing, BBBJ and good sex. I agreed for E 100 30 mins. [/QUOTE]Great. Back to the discussion if "tourists" are ruining pricing in the clubs.
HB.
[QUOTE=Tuber19;2028756]I agree , girls service is not good in general , maybe they think tourist will not return. Though in my case I might spend 50-100 euro on a girl. But i increase to 500 euro in 3 visits(4 days) if I found her service good. So I guess FKK girls should understand this :)[/QUOTE]The girls never know if you will come back or not, for sure for guys like me who are often in the clubs it is far easier to have great service just because the girls know us.
[QUOTE=JohnyBravo;2028733]
- Bianca (RO I guess): Tall, blond, juicy lips, nice tits. Sits on the sofa near the pole. Wanted to session with her last year but could not since she was always busy. Did not want to miss the opportunity this time. Sat with her for a pre zimmer chat and just like Katrina, she clearly mentioned that no kissing, no DATY and only blow job and fucking in E 50 for 30 mins. I offered her 100 E for 1 HR with kissing but she said E 100 is for 30 minutes with kissing, BBBJ and good sex. I agreed for E 100 30 mins. Started with a few LFKs, sucked her lovely boobs to my heart's content, she gave me a nice BBBJ, I gave DATY, fucked her hard in 3 different positions. I came and we were out of the room in 25 mins. She looks good and has a great body. But she has a sharky attitude and is only interested in E 100 30 min rooms.[/QUOTE]I understood, that you paid 100 Euros /30 min for kissing and got LFK only. Not DFK. Correct?
Some girls offer "good" session for 100 Euro. Usually I asked them: does it mean that for 50 Euro you deliberately provide poor service to upsell service level that is standard in this club? It is funny to hear their answers.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2028855]Great. Back to the discussion if "tourists" are ruining pricing in the clubs.
HB.[/QUOTE]I though you always said that it's great that these tourists are subsidising your sessions?
I have been to Sharks last Wednesday. The LU was quite well, I believe that it is still the place to be. I missed my favorate Nastja / Nastia. She is back in Romania according to some regulars. The beautiful blond German student / Jessica was occupied again by some buddy who apparently booked her all night to sit on the sofa near the lockers. She is really cute.
While looking around I discovered a new girl, 21 year old romanian. Slim and with perfect see / the boobs with cure oval shape face. She has dark curly hair, which she has been fixed on the top of her head looking a little like a palm tree. (difficult to describe but probably what makes her recognizable).
I went with her to the room. She is a very sweet girl and I stayed with her for 2 hours. However, she seems very inexperienced and basically complained that she did not earn any money yet, was very tired once she was in the room with me and claimed she did this because her parents need money for medical treatment. Conversation is difficult as she does not speak english or german. She claimed to be in Sharks since two weeks. To sum it up. Super hot body and very sweet young girl. Inexperienced but no bad character. We will have to see how she will develop in the future. Perhaps it needs some trust to be established with this girl first as she seems inexperienced in the business. .
I also recognized this German girl with probably turkish background. Tall, long straight dark hair. Pretty face. Always covers her boobs with a towel. Has a very self confident attitude (in a good sense) and is inbetween rooms always coming back to the 2-3 regulars that are occupying the sofa near the lockers and commenting everything from there. Anybody has an idea who this is?
There is nothing good that will come from desperate tourists taking such offers. All it will do is lower the general service levels per pricing. Tourists or regulars, they will get affected.
Anyway, Bianca is not known for good services anyhow. A lot of these 1 HR for kissing proposal girls do not have a good reputation of services. That is a reason why girls do it, they are really not that confidant in their abilities to deliver, and probably realized there isn't much repeat potential with them, so therefore, target tourist types that are less knowledgeable in pricing and more content with lower level services. Because a regular already knows their service level.
Because the good service providers have repeating customers, and they tend to get long rooms because of this. If you notice she is not that busy, and offering 1 HR proposals, or extras for kissing or whatnot, take it as a warning sign. The good service providers don't need to work such tricks for business.
Here is a tip for those getting 1 HR proposals. Since it's starting off as negotiations, if DFK is important, make sure you get a clear idea of such service and the delivery, and there is not rule you must stay 1 HR as the rate is per 30 min. Bail out in 30 min, if she didn't deliver, or it was more of trick to get 1 HR (ie. Kissing for very short period. LOL).
Personally, I hate dealing with this shit.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2028897]There is nothing good that will come from desperate tourists taking such offers. All it will do is lower the general service levels per pricing. Tourists or regulars, they will get affected.
Anyway, Bianca is not known for good services anyhow. A lot of these 1 HR for kissing proposal girls do not have a good reputation of services. That is a reason why girls do it, they are really not that confidant in their abilities to deliver, and probably realized there isn't much repeat potential with them, so therefore, target tourist types that are less knowledgeable in pricing and more content with lower level services. Because a regular already knows their service level.
Because the good service providers have repeating customers, and they tend to get long rooms because of this. If you notice she is not that busy, and offering 1 HR proposals, or extras for kissing or whatnot, take it as a warning sign. The good service providers don't need to work such tricks for business.
Here is a tip for those getting 1 HR proposals. Since it's starting off as negotiations, if DFK is important, make sure you get a clear idea of such service and the delivery, and there is not rule you must stay 1 HR as the rate is per 30 min. Bail out in 30 min, if she didn't deliver, or it was more of trick to get 1 HR (ie. Kissing for very short period. LOL).
Personally, I hate dealing with this shit.[/QUOTE]Yes there is no rule but you are not dealing with a laptop or a machine but with human being, I never negotiate before the room, always start with 30 minutes if chemistry is not what I am expecting I am just leaving and pay 50 euros, if good feeling can stay many hours as simply as this.
If a girl offers me 100 Euros for half hour or some sort of silly talk like that, the next words out of my mouth will be, "Have a nice night!" And then I walk. Simple as that.
OK, this rarely happens to me, but if a girl talks to me like I'm a tourist (and, yes, I am a tourist), then I'm simply walking. Maybe this doesn't happen often with me because I don't try to negotiate before going to the room.
I have walked out of a room one time before in Sharks when a girl started with that BS about, "how long you want to stay in the room?" and then "if you want nice session with kissing and slowly, then it is 100 Euros. " I just got up and walked out (before we did anything in the room of course). She insisted on taking me to Reception, which I willingly went along with (she must have been new I suppose) and the Reception lady just looked at her like she was crazy. I tried to be extra polite to the girl and thank her for taking me to Reception for the clarification and all, but she was pretty upset about losing face like that.
Too many good girls out there to waste my time with sharky types. I lament the fact that all of the other tourists don't adopt my behavior and just walk away from these sharky types.
"Don't feed the sharks!" I say.
Bianca is a bit of a looker I guess, and is slightly arrogant. I have taken her 2 or 3 times, all for half hour sessions. She is nice and a bit reserved. I see a lot of similarities between her and her roomie Esther; both pester me to take sessions and keep pouting that I don't take any sessions with them (when in reality I have taken each multiple times) but after going room, become cool and reserved. Esther also wastes half of the session asking about why I took this or that girl for a long session lasting multiple hours. Huh, how about the other girl didn't waste talking and being jealous of someone else. Anyway, I found her looks less compelling on a recent visit and took neither her nor Esther in multiple days on the trip, first time that happened. I have moved on past both of them.
Anyway, yes some men indulge these girls in their scammy schemes like this 100 E 30 min. Yes, some of them are tourists. I don't know that all of them are tourists. Sharks is a club with more tourists than others I suppose, but there are several clubs where majority or even most men are not tourists. If the schemers depended solely on tourists for their scams and living, they would not obtain very much business. To bash all tourists because some of them got scammed is just another form of stereotyping. How do we know none of the so called locals ever get scammed? Most of the locals don't write here in the first place. This is more a function of infrequent guests getting scammed, if scamming is the right word here (remember, JB took that session on own volition because he needed that kissing). Many locals in their first few forays in these clubs could also fall prey to such schemes. People get better with more experience, whether locals or tourists, and it stands to reason that more locals will become frequent over time, but not every local is an HB with a million sessions under his belt, and there are also many experienced "tourists" like Syzy and UH who are equally experienced and wise to the ways of the girls.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2028934]but not every local is an HB with a million sessions under his belt, [/QUOTE]Sharks still has a big percentage of experienced locals. More than any other of the big Hessen five, more than World I'd say.
HB.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2028897]
Personally, I hate dealing with this shit.[/QUOTE]+1.
I hate it so much that tomorrow I am passing on a planned visit to Sharks (like in the last couple of days I'll go somewhere where there is no cheating,) Such girls don't even begin to understand how to be a successful business. I normally budget to spend 500 a day but such girls are losing me to the business. Quite honestly my wife is a lot less hassle LOL. And cheaper
The new Lori that Toto reports on is the pits: girls who turn up at a club just to whine at men about their low earnings, their sick parents, brothers, the price of cigarettes.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2028810]Past beauties like Aurelia and now Megan are now at Globe. Ch for better business.[/QUOTE]How come so many ex Globe girls tell me stories of how slow Globe can be at times then? If business there is so much better. Or is business there just good when you are there to spend money? 😉
The german top 5-10 fkks are busy mainly due to foreigners. And switzerland has less of those I would suspect...
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2028873]
Some girls offer "good" session for 100 Euro. Usually I asked them: does it mean that for 50 Euro you deliberately provide poor service to upsell service level that is standard in this club? It is funny to hear their answers.[/QUOTE]
It is even funnier if you go ahead and fuck them for 50, and then start acting like she provided the most amazing sexual act you could ever dream of. And then you go ahead telling her how all her friends are upselling 10 things she just did for free, and ask her if she wants to run away and marry you (after the shitty session where she held back).
About Esther, she has a beautiful face. But looks a bit tall in those high heels. Maybe she would have gotten me in if she had walked barefeet to optically seem shorter than she is. Her face really captivated me once in the couch, and other girl got jealous. Esther just laughed. She seems to have a good spirit. But it is no wonder jealousy is heavy at these clubs. Just imagine being in their shoes for once...
[QUOTE=Optimist;2029028]+1.
I hate it so much that tomorrow I am passing on a planned visit to Sharks. These girls don't even begin to understand how to be a successful business. I normally budget to spend 500 a day but such girls are losing me to the business. Quite honestly my wife is a lot less hassle LOL. And cheaper.[/QUOTE]+1.
Yep this is on one way stupid that the girls talk to each other quite often how to cheat in best way clients, make max money with less service and so on. And the girls lie to each other concerning how less they do in room with clients and for what all they charge extra. Usually the club management should work against this and in the past they have done this, maybe most clubs till around 2010 exceptions already exist before like Palace.
But in the last years the clubs doesn't work against this anymore in the same way. Reason for that the meanwhile too many clubs in Germamy are in strong competition especially for the girls. In the last 5 till 10 years more and more clubs based on low entry fee for guys that mean the girls have to generate the money for the club.
But the main reason is the price for a standard 30 minutes session. It's for more around 20 years the same 50 euro but the costs for the girls meanwhile increased, probably double compared 20 years ago. In the same 20 years price for P6 in Thailand for instance is now meanwhile at least 3 times more expansive than 20 years ago. The biggest problem was that the clubs weren't brave enough to increase the price for the 30 minutes session at of 70 euro or maybe even up to 100 euro! The average earnings for the club girls went down in the last 10 years at least by 50%. Germany is still the cheapest and for me best place for P6 in world if you prefer european style girls.
So the girls themselves were thinking how to increase income and created all this upselling extra ideas. It works with the tourists but destroy the mood of regulars. And the clubs let this happen. Really IMHO it would be better some years ago to increase the price instead of this negotiating before session what is included and what not.
Anyway for the next two month nothing will change and after July 1st P6 world in Germany anyway will change and so cheap as P6 was in the past in Germany woun't never be the same.
P.S. I forgot too mention that same price for every girl, so a 6 cost the same than a 10, also doesn't work anymore at German FKK clubs.
[QUOTE=JohnyBravo;2028733]Hello gentlemen,
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- Martina (half Polish half Bulgarian): blond, average body, small tits. Had sessions with her during my visit last year and she was the only one I met in sharks last year who gave me a complete GFE. Wanted to end my day on a sweet note and hence, approached her. She remembered me from last time. We had 10 min pre zimmer chat and then went into the room. Started with with crazy long DFKs and these continued throughout the session. She gave me an out of the world BBBJ, then I gave her DATY, sucked her small soft boobs hard and fucked her in 3 positions. Then had a smoke together inside the room and left the room after 30 minutes. She is not a looker but has excellent technique and GFE attitude. Not a time watcher at all. I highly recommend her to fellow members.
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Cheers![/QUOTE]Glad to hear Martina is still a star performer. My last trip she and I had a few really spectacular rooms. I agree, she's not the model look, but she's 'cute' and provides incredible GFE in the room. Hope she's there when I return in June.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2029047]
But the main reason is the price for a standard 30 minutes session. It's for more around 20 years the same 50 euro but the costs for the girls meanwhile increased, probably double compared 20 years ago. In the same 20 years price for P6 in Thailand for instance is now meanwhile at least 3 times more expansive than 20 years ago. The biggest problem was that the clubs weren't brave enough to increase the price for the 30 minutes session at of 70 euro or maybe even up to 100 euro! The average earnings for the club girls went down in the last 10 years at least by 50%. Germany is still the cheapest and for me best place for P6 in world if you prefer european style girls.
So the girls themselves were thinking how to increase income and created all this upselling extra ideas. It works with the tourists but destroy the mood of regulars. And the clubs let this happen. Really IMHO it would be better some years ago to increase the price instead of this negotiating before session what is included and what not.
Anyway for the next two month nothing will change and after July 1st P6 world in Germany anyway will change and so cheap as P6 was in the past in Germany woun't never be the same.[/QUOTE]- Cannot compare a stagflated modern economy to a highly inflationary growing economy. Yes prices has gone up in thailand 3 fold in the last 20 years, but still the comparable short time rate involves the girls leaving, getting dressed and move to a new location for sex. Price for comparable standards are maybe about 80 euro (at gogo's) but it takes the girls 1 hour to get back in line compared to 30-40 min for the FKK girls. Or 80e at soapies, but there the session is 1h. And long time (rest of the night from gogo's) is just 66% more expensive. Basically the income potential is still slightly higher at FKK's, but the gap has almost completely vanished. The world has turned global, and the customers can go anywhere.
Ofcourse FKK's should have increased the price by maybe 10-15 euros. But you also must look at median income levels for local germans (the 1st pillar), and the stagflated german economy with 0. 5-1. 5% inflation a year doesn't talk about the best outlooks. And seeing how the top clubs rely so heavily on tourists, 100 e would completely kill of that 2nd pillar in their incomes too.
There should be some sort of maximum amount of fkk clubs also. But isnt this one of the new legislations being implemented now? Much like taxi licenses... that would quell the inflated number of clubs and hopefully remove most of the average girls... deffinately no more hessen clubs should be allowed to open (maybe one or two smaller ones should be closed). And in nrw deffinately a few clubs should be forced to close... The biggest expense we are paying for is the time the girls are wasting, doing absolutely nothing.
60/100 for half/full hour makes more sense than 50/100 also. It should never be +100%. From a marketing standpoint that makes absolutely no sense...
One girl I told 'no' a few months ago had the best reply I've heard: <Ok, I will go back to sit on my ass in the couch, doing absolutely nothing then>
Lets see what happens past 1st July before we jump to any conclusions.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2029057]- Cannot compare a stagflated modern economy to a highly inflationary growing economy. Yes prices has gone up in thailand 3 fold in the last 20 years.[/QUOTE]Makes for me as tourist no difference if stagflated or highly infltionary country. An American pays in dollars for P6 in Germany nowadays around the same as 20 years ago but in Thailand now 3 times more! Very simple don't make it so complicated.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2029061]Makes for me as tourist no difference if stagflated or highly infltionary country. An American pays in dollars for P6 in Germany nowadays around the same as 20 years ago but in Thailand now 3 times more! Very simple don't make it so complicated.[/QUOTE]It gets complicated because thailands p6 scene only has the 1 pillar (tourists), while Germany has 2 pillars (locals and tourists). And I think there is a political will to hold onto that.
Or you can go to Saphan Kwai in bkk and spot locals paying 1/3 or 1/4 of what tourists pay at nana plaza... but do we want german fkk's to go the same route?
If you read these pages, one thing you notice is that most of the complaints re: cheating and scamming revolves around kissing. Punters want it and expect it, girls hate doing it or want to get paid more for kissing.
So, one thing club managements could do, especially post July 1, is agree with Craiova's suggestion and raise price to 60 E and make DFK part of the standard service. As BBBJ used to be. Other than some extremely naive newbies, no one gets cheated on BBBJ today and that's because it is included in standard package for 50 E. Doing the same with DFK could solve this problem.
Can't believe this is my thousandth comment here. I shudder to wonder how much time I have spent thinking about FKKs and commenting here since I discovered these clubs a few years ago 😀
[QUOTE=Pistons;2029064]
Or you can go to Saphan Kwai in bkk and spot locals paying 1/4 of what tourists pay at nana plaza...[/QUOTE]Same you find in many countries like Russia, Romania, Mexico, Brasil, Kenya and many more. But you don't find this in Germany!
[QUOTE=Craiova;2029067]Same you find in many countries like Russia, Romania, Mexico, Brasil, Kenya and many more. But you don't find this in Germany![/QUOTE]Well, you do have Rom, Atlanta, Bahama, Feigenblatt, Diamond etc etc. But they are not racist on pricing. And I think this is about racism. Thailand, Russia, Mexico, Brazil, Kenya are more rasict... simply put...
And I think you missed my main point a bit. That of the price for tourists around the world meeting up at an equilibrium. At least where flight connections are easy..
[QUOTE=Pistons;2029068]Well, you do have Rom, Atlanta, Bahama, Feigenblatt, Diamond etc etc.[/QUOTE]Wish you luck to get the P6 there for only 1/4 you pay at Sharks. LOL. And every foreigner can go to these clubs as well and get the same for the same price.
And sorry that has nothing to do with racism but is only economical!
[QUOTE=Craiova;2029069]Wish you luck to get the P6 there for only 1/4 you pay at Sharks. LOL.
And sorry that has nothing to do with rasocm but is only economical![/QUOTE]Way to missread me! 😉.
German economy is stronger than the thai economy 😉
[QUOTE=Pistons;2029070]Way to missread me! 😉.
German economy is stronger than the thai economy 😉[/QUOTE]I'm out of this discussion and Oceans is the best club. LOL.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2029073]I'm out of this discussion and Oceans is the best club. LOL.[/QUOTE]I never said that. It had the most 9's for me back in Sept. / Oct. Last fall. But on my last two trips palace and maybe more oase went ahead in numbers of top girls. Girls are more important than clubs. If I visit different weeks, maybe it changes...
(Thai locations also has no entry fees, but sopies and gogo bars takes a share when you choose a girl. But this is not legal in germany I suppose. It does increase the prices in thailand though and needs to be calculated)
I could totally get behind 60/100 pricing if DFK was included as standard service. Of course, I suppose there's no easy solution to the girls who keep their lips tightly shut and insist that somehow qualifies as DFK.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2029075] But on my last two trips palace and maybe more oase went ahead in numbers of top girls. [/QUOTE]Thanks. Scratching Oceans off my list even with 15 euro entry.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2029086]I could totally get behind 60/100 pricing if DFK was included as standard service. Of course, I suppose there's no easy solution to the girls who keep their lips tightly shut and insist that somehow qualifies as DFK.[/QUOTE]Not going to happen. The standard pricing has to do with nearby competition pricing, and what alternatives there are. Artemisia is isolated as far as competition.
Artemis is 60. Austria is 60+. It's all pretty much Romies everywhere, and it don't change the service level much at all. If anything, there are upsells in GT Vienna due to clientele. It's tourist location.
There will always be clients that tries to pay more to get ahead, even if you raise that increment. It's the nature of the business.
If anybody has been around, should know, it's the clientele. Palace was affected first, and it's a heavy tourist location, and then when a club's popularity grows, draw the large volume of tourists.
I can also say, I've been to Vive in Spain, and really there is no correlation of service to pricing. The cheaper club Estark with girl lower offering, some 50 by the way, there is more luck in services. It's probably due to clientele.
The reason why Switz is such a draw is 120 per half, it's the threshold fair amount girls will abide by an agreement for services. Otherwise, there arn't enough volume of clientele, otherwise cost of living is high to be worth it for those don't have a clientele base.
How popular is Hamburg given all the alternatives in De? You can pay extra 20 per DFK, bbbj for extra 20.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2029073]
Otherwise, there arn't enough volume of clientele, otherwise cost of living is high to be worth it for those don't have a clientele base.[/QUOTE]Exactly, a 10-15 e price hike for the half won't be enough. The number of girls and / or clubs needs to be reduced also.
But germany is competing with international destinations like thailand and brazil. Switzerland is only competing with itself...
[QUOTE=Optimist;2029028]
I hate it so much that tomorrow I am passing on a planned visit to Sharks (like in the last couple of days I'll go somewhere where there is no cheating,) Such girls don't even begin to understand how to be a successful business. I normally budget to spend 500 a day but such girls are losing me to the business.[/QUOTE]500 is only a lot if you are spending all of that on one girl and repeating her often, which sounds like you are because you've mentioned the FKK wife dilemma before.
Even then, some WGs might prefer to make money while spending the minimum amount of time with customers. A 10 minute room is 50 EUR. A 27 minute CIM miraculously becomes "35 minute" by her calculations and 150 EUR. This approach means less time pretending to like her job, pretending to like her customer.
Scammers can't be "successful business" at the Hessen big5? Maybe if the boards were more like Yelp or TripAdvisor. But the boards aren't like this. Case in point, I have no idea who cheated you at Sharks. And I vaguely only remember that you like an ex-Finca WG. And I read more religiously than 99.9% of the attendees at Sharks. Sharing information is more common in smaller clubs, where the percentages of regular clientele is higher.
Yup the lineup at Sharks is far better than World. Compared to when I last went there in January 2016 service levels have gone down. But it is not as bad as palace. I was with 2 girls yesterday and they both kissed without preconditions.
Too bad gorgeous Serbian Mileva was not there.
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2029214]Yup the lineup at Sharks is far better than World. Compared to when I last went there in January 2016 service levels have gone down. But it is not as bad as palace. I was with 2 girls yesterday and they both kissed without preconditions.
Too bad gorgeous Serbian Mileva was not there.[/QUOTE]Sorry but service level is also linked on how you behave and how much you are ready to pay. Visited World yesterday (see my report) great improvement in LU a lot of new girls, the club is strongly regaining momentum.
Mileva? Should that have read Milana?
HB.
McAdonis. Wow, you remember my posts better than I do LOL. My comment wasn't about Betty, who I like very much, but more a general comment about the tiresome, fantasy busting discussion with girls who don't provide all services in half an hour. (before someone says I am unrealistic I add that a half hour room is merely an entree to longer rooms if the girl is good
Yes you are right, girls can do ok by scamming, but, I like to believe, not as well as the honest girls who are in long rooms for most of the time with regular easy customers. In addition, sharky behavior damages their personality over time.The German forums are very harsh with detailed reports on girls who are no good so the info gets around.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2029226]Mileva? Should that have read Milana?
HB.[/QUOTE]Yes, does she still work there?
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2029235]Yes, does she still work there?[/QUOTE]She is currently working at Palace.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2029244]She is currently working at Palace.
HB.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I might see her later on this month, if not for her I wouldn't go to Palace hopefully her service is still good.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2029244]She is currently working at Palace.
HB.[/QUOTE]I didn't see Milana. Srb at Palace on Saturday 22 April, when was messe.
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2029288]Thanks for the info. I might see her later on this month, if not for her I wouldn't go to Palace hopefully her service is still good.[/QUOTE]Better hurry up then. 9 hours and 14 minutes left!
[QUOTE=Optimist;2029229]
Yes you are right, girls can do ok by scamming, but, I like to believe, not as well as the honest girls who are in long rooms for most of the time with regular easy customers.
[/QUOTE]"Easy" is relative and depends on the WG. Some WGs may find the mental aspect of the job to me more difficult than the physical. In other words, 15 minutes CIM for 100 is easier than 60 minutes of chatting on the couch for 100 EUR. The latter requires much more interaction with the customer. The former allows her more time to smoke and chat in Romanian with her friends and pretend she is not in a job that she hates. Drugs, which many WGs use, is often used to numb mental stress, not physical.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2029229]
The German forums are very harsh with detailed reports on girls who are no good so the info gets around.[/QUOTE]Agree that German forums are more useful. But the only people who RTFF are the ones that plan to spend a significant amount of time in the clubs in the near future. If it's some married German man from Munich who has 4 hours free at the end of his business trip and he knows he won't be coming back to FRA any time soon, he won't invest time to RTFF. Trust me, I don't do long rooms, so when bored, I always strike up conversations with other customers. At Sharks, maybe a third of the clientele are casual mongers, who can count on one hand how many times they've been to Sharks. Also I find that I have to physically be in the club and speaking to regulars to put names to faces. Description on forum might be: "Romanian name, dark hair, 165 cm, thin, started working at Sharks two weeks ago, Service grenade!" I can't identify a WG based on such a description! I'd have to already know 75% of the LU to figure out through deduction.
ISG fulfills various needs. When I first became aware of those FKKs, reading ISG made me realize that these are places where I could have a good time and that I should go. "Wow, there are places with dozens of naked attractive girls walking around and you could have sex with any of them for 50 E". There was also useful logistics info, such as how many clubs in FRA, how to get to them, a rough layout, etc. At first, girls' names didn't mean anything; Over time, I learned to look for girls that likeminded members discuss around here on ISG. But for at least the last couple of years, ISG is mainly a social network for me, a place to just chat and share about this aspect of life that's meaningful to me. I suspect this is true for most members who have visited these clubs more than a couple of times.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2029300]I didn't see Milana. Srb at Palace on Saturday 22 April, when was messe.[/QUOTE]So she probably had a day off.
HB.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2029342]"Easy" is relative and depends on the WG. Some WGs may find the mental aspect of the job to me more difficult than the physical. In other words, 15 minutes CIM for 100 is easier than 60 minutes of chatting on the couch for 100 EUR. The latter requires much more interaction with the customer. The former allows her more time to smoke and chat in Romanian with her friends and pretend she is not in a job that she hates. Drugs, which many WGs use, is often used to numb mental stress, not physical.
Agree that German forums are more useful. But the only people who RTFF are the ones that plan to spend a significant amount of time in the clubs in the near future. If it's some married German man from Munich who has 4 hours free at the end of his business trip and he knows he won't be coming back to FRA any time soon, he won't invest time to RTFF. Trust me, I don't do long rooms, so when bored, I always strike up conversations with other customers. At Sharks, maybe a third of the clientele are casual mongers, who can count on one hand how many times they've been to Sharks. Also I find that I have to physically be in the club and speaking to regulars to put names to faces. Description on forum might be: "Romanian name, dark hair, 165 cm, thin, started working at Sharks two weeks ago, Service grenade!" I can't identify a WG based on such a description! I'd have to already know 75% of the LU to figure out through deduction.[/QUOTE]Some girls are capable, others not. But, money can correct this.
Ok, you can do 150 with quick room, CIM included, less work.
Was the service good? Was there something that makes her not repeatable? 10 min room is a reason.
It's a matter of how the service is carried out still.
The point is to build relationships with clients. If the client is spending significant amount, they will be more inclined to build a relationship, a so called rapport.
Reasons for why names are provided.
The descriptions may not be precise, and the girl may have more general characteristics that the descriptions may not narrow down. Also, there can be several girls with the same name, a descriptions if distinguishing enough, deduces who the girl maybe.
In this case, you'd have to be able to recall and cross-reference her name as she gives it out.
Not all that useful for me to try to recall several names, and figuring out who is who.
But, I think some of the most often mention girls will likely stick with guys, that is if they are an avid forum reader.
For guys more familiar with the LU, it's easier since they know high percentage of girls, but for a newbie, more difficult. You'd have to make an effort with a list compared to a guy that have met and familiar with names of most of the girls.
For me, even with this, I usually don't care for names and go by taste usually, as it's not worth the effort, but if you know a regular that know high percentage of girls, that's a different story. Really easy in that case.
So, it's really worthwhile to meet guys that know girls, and their opinions can be trusted.
Monday (April 24th).
Denisa 24 Russian Blond.
I arrived at 4 pm and walked a little until we stopped in Denisia and she said come fuck me sexy and play with my penis and looked in my eyes and said let's go to the room and I said yes.
In the room she give me DFK without asking and I was so horny and I ask her to fuck and she laugh and put condom start fucking normal position and she come twice and I ask her doggy style and I can't resist any more and I ask her to came in her boobs and she said yes and and DFK gain until cum a huge load every where and we laugh and kiss.
Denisia is a very sexy girl with very good services in the locker she ask for tips and I give her 20 E and she deserve it. Face 8 serves 9.
Second Girl was Carolina Ro 22. Black hair.
Very sexy with Lovely face, I ask her to go the room and she said yes. In the room I kiss her in her lips and play with her pussy until become wet. Normal position for 10 mint she scratch my back and we laugh. The cow girls with kiss until come. 50 E face 9 serves 9.
Wednesday (April 26th).
In Wednesday FKK sharks become another place like a heaven with many lovely girls.
First girl was Betty 21 Ro black hair.
She came to me this girl was slim with fit ass but in the room was amazing super sexy with hot kiss and hot pussy cum quickly love this girl 50 E face 7 serves 9.
Mandy.
Last girl was super super super sexy, I was walking and suddenly find this girl in my face smiling she was from Germany her name was Mandy I ask her are you free and she said yes with lovely smile and we go to the room I was so happy to choose Mandy she is super friendly although she is super sexy she give me very good service without asking DFK and BBBJ very slow and sexy I feel in love with this Mandy and I finished in normal position with kissing. After finishing we took a lot she is super smart. In the locker I give her 70 E and she worth 100 E.
Mandy was my best FKK girls until now unfortunately she was always busy face 10 serves 10.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2029390]Some girls are capable, others not. But, money can correct this.
Ok, you can do 150 with quick room, CIM included, less work.
Was the service good? Was there something that makes her not repeatable? 10 min room is a reason.
It's a matter of how the service is carried out still.
The point is to build relationships with clients. If the client is spending significant amount, they will be more inclined to build a relationship, a so called rapport.
Reasons for why names are provided.
The descriptions may not be precise, and the girl may have more general characteristics that the descriptions may not narrow down. Also, there can be several girls with the same name, a descriptions if distinguishing enough, deduces who the girl maybe.
In this case, you'd have to be able to recall and cross-reference her name as she gives it out.
Not all that useful for me to try to recall several names, and figuring out who is who.
But, I think some of the most often mention girls will likely stick with guys, that is if they are an avid forum reader.
For guys more familiar with the LU, it's easier since they know high percentage of girls, but for a newbie, more difficult. You'd have to make an effort with a list compared to a guy that have met and familiar with names of most of the girls.
For me, even with this, I usually don't care for names and go by taste usually, as it's not worth the effort, but if you know a regular that know high percentage of girls, that's a different story. Really easy in that case.
So, it's really worthwhile to meet guys that know girls, and their opinions can be trusted.[/QUOTE]Don t agree with you at all, a girl can be a disaster for me and a great GFE for another monger, we should not try to put everything in excel files but keep.
Big spaces for unpredictable things but I know some people are not able to manage this aspect of the things and always want to get maximum of safety, reliability etc.
McAdonis. An "easy" customer is girl defined as you were suggesting. Maybe it's just the girls I know but they generally prefer customers who don't fuck solid and also prefer long sessions with time for smoking and chatting.
Yes, you are right not all customers read forums, and even fewer remember (that's me). However the management and girls read the reports on the German forums and are often influenced by them. This is probably more relevant than a customer turning up at Sharks with a list of names (as PL says it is hard to use such a list)
[QUOTE=Optimist;2029455]McAdonis. An "easy" customer is girl defined as you were suggesting. Maybe it's just the girls I know but they generally prefer customers who don't fuck solid and also prefer long sessions with time for smoking and chatting.
Yes, you are right not all customers read forums, and even fewer remember (that's me). However the management and girls read the reports on the German forums and are often influenced by them. This is probably more relevant than a customer turning up at Sharks with a list of names (as PL says it is hard to use such a list)[/QUOTE]After 15 years of FKK I never met a girl who is not preferring chatting or smoking than to be hardly fuck. I know some guys still believe that the girls are looking for strong and big dicks. And to be fucked many hours and of course as hardly as possible.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2029037]How come so many ex Globe girls tell me stories of how slow Globe can be at times then? If business there is so much better. Or is business there just good when you are there to spend money? 😉
The german top 5-10 fkks are busy mainly due to foreigners. And switzerland has less of those I would suspect...[/QUOTE]For my many visits at Globe, mainly between June and December, after I discovered also high level History Liestal and Swiss Dietikon, easier to organize for me there, I met many times Katalina, Isabella, I know from Germany, Isabella since February 2014 at Sharks, then World, I also saw many times Aurelia and Jessika silicon who is Miky there, l discovered top pole dancer Stefi. Ro, now Mio GT also tour there, they never say to me they have problems with Globe staff, they tour for many times. Katalina is still a busy superstar there like she was in Hessen, Aurelia was fired twice from Sharks but never from Globe, Isabella refused to go with many Germans at Sharks and World, she is at Globe since 2015, many other girls work there for many tours, just because they make good business there, better than in Germany. Only girls who return to work in Germany are those who are not able to make good business in Switzerland. If WGs are usually not Nobel awards, they know how to count and pimps also, just higher rates for sex in Switzerland, 140 at Globe, 145 at Bumsalp, 99 at History, 89 at Swiss, versus 50 in Germany, 100 for some extra like CIM or anal when girls make you pay for.
If Anja returned to Germany, I always wrote, even quite pretty and friendly girl, but when you know Katalina, or Lorena, or even Isabella, she just doesn't have Swiss level, mainly for behavior.
I just hope my advice for Megan who did trust me, will be as good for her, than when she was at Mainhattan. It was just my way to thank her and I wish her a very good business at Globe and longer time off to enjoy her real life. Then, I will be proud of my relationship with my regular girls, so weird behavior Isabella I saw so many times refusing guys at Sharks or World, looking at them just like shit, that's why I was so attracted by this natural Romanian blond beauty who was able to say no when she didn't like how a guy came to her, but was also able for very high level when she liked you, and she really improved at Globe, also Katalina welcome when we met on first time at Globe after only 1 room at Sharks, and Megan for our more than 35 1 h30 rooms during 1 year started at Mainhattan, as jolie Sara.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2029455]Yes, you are right not all customers read forums, and even fewer remember (that's me). However the management and girls read the reports on the German forums and are often influenced by them. [/QUOTE]Does Hessen big5 management take action based on forums? The girl that I had issues with at World, had a prior history of complaints on the German forums. Influenced in positive or negative way? The number of reports for Sharks has grown exponentially in the past three years on the German forum, but general consensus is service level is declining.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2029065]If you read these pages, one thing you notice is that most of the complaints re: cheating and scamming revolves around kissing. Punters want it and expect it, girls hate doing it or want to get paid more for kissing.
So, one thing club managements could do, especially post July 1, is agree with Craiova's suggestion and raise price to 60 E and make DFK part of the standard service.[/QUOTE]Raising prices would be a risk for clubs at a time when mongers' minds are being put into doubt about the FKK scene.
But regarding kissing I have a general suggestion: DFK should be a lot more common on the couches. In the best clubs (not Sharks) there is DFK, HJ, and sometimes even BBBJ on the couches. OK, maybe BBBJ is too much to ask as a teaser, but DFK should be standard in my opinion.
And why? Simply because DFK is the best predictor of whether a session will go well or not. Even better than conversation I would say. I mean, I can think of the occasional case where I was chatting with a girl and it seemed to go well but then she turned bad in the room much to my surprise and chagrin. But I cannot think of a single instance in my experience where the kissing was good but the sex was bad. Can you?
In a club like Sharks many girls would object to this standard. However, it seems to me that the girls should be just as keen as the guys to avoid bad sessions. If a girl is happy with bad sessions, and especially if she is luring guys into bad sessions, then she is essentially a swindler and should not be encouraged.
As this type of standards is less, there are other alternatives. It just keeps whoever are content around with such services, and pushes the declination in services further.
As new mongers start out in the clubs, they don't have experiences if what used to be, but only what is now. So, that pushes further decline.
Back in the days as I was starting out, I made out in the couches a lot. That's where I came from, and that is different from guys starting out today, unless they are starting out in more reputed service clubs. Which I highly recommend guys to try out various types of clubs to get a perspective. If you live in a bubble, that's your only reference.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2029532]Does Hessen big5 management take action based on forums? The girl that I had issues with at World, had a prior history of complaints on the German forums. Influenced in positive or negative way? The number of reports for Sharks has grown exponentially in the past three years on the German forum, but general consensus is service level is declining.[/QUOTE]No, I think not. Management will take notice of forums when it is in their interests: I certainly shouldn't have said they "often" do : over enthusiastic writing on my part :)
Forums cannot change trends which are happening for economic/cultural reasons.
Influence? Some girls aware of forums might adapt their approach slightly (I have had a few girls tell me this). Other girls, as you say, don't give a damn as they can make plenty regardless.
Never think that forums are going to have any significant influence.
[QUOTE=JohnyBravo;2028733]
Concluding thoughts: the club has a great LU in terms of number of girls and optics. But many of the girls I met seemed to give average and unenthusiastic service for E 50 for 30 mins. Most of the girls I spoke to were upselling and wanted another E 50 for kissing, DATY and GFE. It's a good place to enjoy seeing very beautiful ladies walking around naked and coming to you trying to convince you to fuck them. But service levels in E 50 for 30 mins can't be assured.
Cheers![/QUOTE]My first visit to Sharks next week. If the girls behave badly, I will give them hell. I will appear as Josef Stalin and Robocop.
[QUOTE=ZimmerBaby;2029699]My first visit to Sharks next week. If the girls behave badly, I will give them hell. I will appear as Josef Stalin and Robocop.[/QUOTE]As long as you continue with tradition and you behave disgracefully, all will enjoy.
Do Enjoy your Southern Nights.
Excess.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2029065]
So, one thing club managements could do, especially post July 1, is agree with Craiova's suggestion and raise price to 60 E and make DFK part of the standard service. [/QUOTE]You've got to be fucking kidding me!?
Why raise prices to E60? So that you can have the same lame service for E60 instead of E50? You really think that for E10 difference the scammers, swindlers and the sharks will go like: "but yes of course, for E10 extra I will now kiss!
Paying [b]more[/b] for [u]less[/u] service, that's a bit naive, isn't it? Which business school did you go to? 🙄
The problem is twofold: too many tourists/naive souls willing to pay E50 for substandard service (and probably even dumb enough to give a tip 😡 ), which only lures more and more substandard scammers, swindlers and shark girls to try their luck.
Why not say: "for E50 there is no need (illegal anyways!) to do a BBBJ, so now kissing (not illegal) should be part of the standard package?" We will still lose out on something (due to legal changes) as both used to be included, but at least we're not going to pay [b]extra[/b] for [u]less[/u] service!
Horny, we must be in the same school of economic thoughts called commonsense.
Hi,
I was in Sharks yesterday, LU was actually better than I expected and I saw so many girls just got back from holiday. To be honest, that is probably the first time I felt like sharks' LU had improved in the last two month. I just have this bad experience when I went to the room with this one girl which I do not want to say her name here. So before we went to the room I made it clear that I only want to stay 30 minutes and she agreed with it so we went to the room. Like other people mentioned here before that some girls like to upsell and she happened to be one of them, she tried to get me into CIM which I declined. After that, she gave me a nice BBBJ which I have no complain about. Then I returned the favor did a little DATY and also with FIV. It is quite interesting that I know if we stay 25 minutes or even 30 minutes she would for sure tell me "oh we stay in the room 35 or 40 minutes so it is 100 euros instead of 50 euros which I experienced before with other girls". So right after I finished I suggested we should leave. When I pay her 50 euros she said "oh no it is 100 euros because you put finger in my pussy" I was surprised and she kept saying that " yeah, like we discussed about, back to 3 times we were in the room. " At this point I was surprised by her lying skills, it was my first time did FIV with her and so how come I ever discussed this with her before, more important I have only stayed in the room with her 2 twice before this.
That point I did not want to argue with her, so I went to the locker room get 50 more euros before I handed it over to her I told her if you take this it is our last time talk and see each other, she hesitated a little bit and still tried to convinced me with her BS. That time I was just done with her so did not say anything and let her decided, of course, she took the money at the end.
Anyway, this is my experience with this one girl. Don't think I will talk to her anymore and lesson learned. Other than this incident, I had a great time at sharks yesterday.
Guys, report stuff like what Gaolegao experienced. This provides info for other punters.
Ok, some guys rarely experience this. Wink wink? LOL.
[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2029771]I do not want to say her name here.
Anyway, this is my experience with this one girl. Don't think I will talk to her anymore and lesson learned. Other than this incident, I had a great time at sharks yesterday.[/QUOTE]Name would be helpful.
HB.
[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2029771]I just have this bad experience when I went to the room with this one girl which I do not want to say her name here.[/QUOTE]On the contrary. Well, not my business.
Why won't you name her? Its valuable info so others won't fall into her trap. Still trying to protect her after she fucked you good or you afraid she will take revenge? 😂.
If it was me I wudnt pay 50 e extra for this 😡.
Horny Harry. Totally agree. Greedy girls will not be happy with a pathetic (in their eyes) 60 euros per half hour. Even if it were 100 per half hour they would still want more by upselling, like an addiction. They have eyes on the thousands (ok, not per half hour, but certainly tips/gifts) and they all know of true stories where some monger has done some such thing.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2029762]Horny, we must be in the same school of economic thoughts called common sense.[/QUOTE]Common nonsense more likely. Don't you see that people who never get a pay rise in many years get more and more pissed off, and service for a 50 declines, on average across all the girls. It can't go on for ever that girls get paid less and less in real terms (after inflation is considered).
Somehow, sometime, there has to be a price increase, in order to get the same (or near) service we got 10+ years ago. Does not mean I think girls will be happy with a measly 10 Euro price rise after all this time. However a 20% pay rise is better than nothing.
How happy would you be if never got a pay increase for last 5 years, as example?
I don't care at all what greedy girls want. It is more a case of what is reasonable for really attractive girls to make enough money to take this profession.
If one club had the guts to make it 60, it would be interesting to see if customers would boycott them or not. Also interesting to see if many of the good girls would try to move to the club with the higher price. More likely it would be better for the big Frankfurt clubs to all reach an agreement.
Personally I don't care. I am getting relatively good service from repeat girls at 100 Euros for the hour. I like the girls to be relatively happy with what I pay them, not to be in a pissed off mood about it all.
Obviously, it's not an industry that is giving pay raises. Then, people can go for an occupation that has pay raises. Minimum wage has not increased either.
If their complaints are really legit then WG populous would fall drastically. Ro are everywhere, there hasn't been shortfall of them around. So, it is obvious, it is not the rate.
There are differences in such occurrences with clubs, still Ro, the same rate.
Like Optimist says, it's a nature of the business. This ain't your typical company salary job.
Using [URL]http://www.lawyerdb.de/Inflationrate.aspx[/URL], 50 euro's in 2002 when prostitution was legalised (and the euro was introduced in Germany) would equate to 61.21 euro's today.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2029539]As this type of standards is less, there are other alternatives. It just keeps whoever are content around with such services, and pushes the declination in services further.
As new mongers start out in the clubs, they don't have experiences if what used to be, but only what is now. So, that pushes further decline.
Back in the days as I was starting out, I made out in the couches a lot. That's where I came from, and that is different from guys starting out today, unless they are starting out in more reputed service clubs. Which I highly recommend guys to try out various types of clubs to get a perspective. If you live in a bubble, that's your only reference.[/QUOTE]Well said. And if you play your game right, you can still get kissing in most clubs (maybe all) you visit. DFK is a bit harder in public.
I once stayed 40 minutes with a girl where we had agreed on staying just 30 minutes. She said she allowed me because she liked me (meaning I only had to pay her 50). I paid her 70e due to her honesty and integrity. It seems like what ticks people of is this retarded +100% price hike for 1 extra minute. And it is ruining the atmosphere both in the clubs and on the forum. What if the extended time past the first 30 minutes were based on smaller increments of time?
Say you start with 60e for 30 minutes. Then for each 10 minutes added, you pay 15e more? And if she is the one to cut the session short (less than 20 minutes), you only pay her 40e? But only she can make the decission to cut it short?
Or 60e for 30 min (+20e for each 15 min). And the girl only gets 40e if she cuts the session short below 20min...
And then you add freaking stop watches on the inside of every door?
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2029799]Common nonsense more likely. Don't you see that people who never get a pay rise in many years get more and more pissed off, and service for a 50 declines, on average across all the girls. It can't go on for ever that girls get paid less and less in real terms (after inflation is considered).
Somehow, sometime, there has to be a price increase, in order to get the same (or near) service we got 10+ years ago. Does not mean I think girls will be happy with a measly 10 Euro price rise after all this time. However a 20% pay rise is better than nothing.[/QUOTE]You only have a little bit of a point about the pay rise when perhaps you compare the job of a prostitute to that of an unskilled factory worker, but then again Syzygies, just ask yourself the following 2 questions; 1) how much taxes do these girls pay over those thousands of Euros that they pull in every month and 2) how many times did a prostitute ever give you a receipt for her services?
Before you start talking about giving someone a pay rise, perhaps you should also take into account that these girls have basically been living a low tax / taxfree life for 10+ years. By the way, a pay rise is something that the boss/employer gives, not the customer.
Even if she does pay (some) tax as a freelancer / kleine Selbstaendige, how will the Finzanzamt ever know or prove that a girl did a 30 minutes + CIM or anal, as opposed to only a 30 minutes fuck and suck? How will the Finanzamt ever prove that she had 10 customers that day as opposed to only 2? Again, how many times did a prostitute ever give you a receipt during the last 10+ years?
Lets imagine the following scene near the lockers where the WG goes to a cash register and types in the numbers: "Well let's see honey, you had 30 minutes, one blowjob with a CIM, that's E100, (imagine the old-fashioned sound here of a cash register: 🎵 ka-ching) and then you extended for 30 more minutes with anal, that's another E150 ( 🎵 ka-ching!), so that makes a subtotal of E250 ( 🎵 ka-ching!) + 19% VAT ( 🎵 ka-ching! That will be E297,50 ( 🎵 ka-ching! Here's your receipt sweetheart. Will that be cash or credit?"
"Oh, and you're kindly reminded that this does not include service, so please don't forget to add another 15-20% ( 🎵 ka-ching!) to that E297,50 darling" 😤
Horny Harry: They also don't get any employment benefits other taxpayers get. Except for maybe the insurance policy I hear they have at Oase now.
So I already tip most girls nowadays in hessen / nrw. Except if they give poor service. Maybe by doing that, the service I get has increased a bit. Normally just 5e. But sometimes 10 if I have much left on my budget. But I never tip when spending 1h...
First all, we should acknowledge that all these WGs are actually service providers, they are entitled to get fair and reasonable pay. However, Excessive competition between WGs leads to not only a decline in the quality of service but the prevalence of frustration for both sides. There must be a win-win situation.
I have gone with more than 50 girls in the past three years in different clubs. According to my own experience, majority of them accept 100€ one-hour session and would like to provide decent service. They all complained 50€ half-hours session and considered mongers might take advantage through that.
So I think the better pricing structure is to set the minimum service to 1 hour for 100€ instead of the current half hour. After this first initial hour, 50€ for every extension of half an hour.
I am sure most girl will be happy with that.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2029799]Common nonsense more likely. Don't you see that people who never get a pay rise in many years get more and more pissed off, and service for a 50 declines, on average across all the girls. It can't go on for ever that girls get paid less and less in real terms (after inflation is considered)..[/QUOTE]
This subject is really too complex to deal with on a forum as each of us are making very relevant points but not managing to make them into a coherent whole. And, no, I'm not even going to try.
I recognise all the points about inflation but I think of other factors which in my opinion greatly reduce the validity of the inflation argument.
1. In 2003 most workers came from western Europe not Romania, but, despite their higher living costs they were happy with 50 euros. I do not buy the argument that in 2003 there were more customers per girl; there are clubs now which are way more crowded than ever Atlantis was. World is a different matter but that was a reflection of appalling management, the exception proving the rule. I am not sure that 2003 and 2017 is comparing like with like.
2. Despite the increase in clubs and workers, there are many girls who are providing excellent service at or below 50 euros per half hour. These girls are earning way way more than the average customer. One girl who was earning 30 euros (note, 30 euros not 50 per half hour) for 30 minutes said that her profit was 5000 a month, which in Romanian terms is 18 months typical wage!!
3. The issue of 50 euros buying poor service is a cultural one, bred of addictive greed on the one side (particularly when girls are coming from the financial insecurity of a dirt poor background), and foolishness on the other (customers wanting to be seen as somehow "good" men who look after women nicely). A marginal increase to 60 euros would be irrelevant. I have had more than one girl tell me of their absolute contempt for 30 minute men who give 5 or 10 euro tips (no, I'm not referring here to Pistons as I don't know who or in what exact circumstances he tips)
There is a strong argument for wages keeping place with inflation, or maybe even grossly exceeding inflation: recent times have seen the diminuition of earned income as a part of national income in western europe and the USA. labour produces more and more wealth but gets a smaller share of the cake. But high wages do nothing to solve the cultural issues leading to poor performance. One example: in the past the print unions on Fleet street quite rightly secured high wages, but they also ran a system of huge overmanning to the point that people didn't even need to go to work regularly in order to get paid the highest manual workers wages.
Issue 1: should prostitutes wages in Germany keep place with general wage inflation. That depends on what the appropriate net earning should be, and what the relevant starting point should be
Issue 2: how to deal with greed and poor service. That requires a market which rewards good service and honest work.
Anyway, the influence of our discussions on what actually happens must be 0%.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2029851]
Anyway, the influence of our discussions on what actually happens must be 0%.[/QUOTE]That is exactly what the penny stock gamblers on the stock market forum who only lost money, kept telling themselves too. LOL! Welcome to 2017!
I think there is one point we haven't looked at too much in here:
The total pool of budgeted money for global p6 will not change due to pricing. At worst, it may fall if prices goes up, and the FKK percentage share of this total money pool may fall if prices goes up too much above the willingness to pay threshold. (I can see the willingness to pay threshold for this 30 min fkk sex is at about 60-65e. And most likely just 60e as you 1. don't want to gamble and stretch your luck, and 2. those 5e notes are slightly more inconvenient and thus add load on that entire pricing psychology theory...
So the only thing that can be done to make the girls more satisfied with their work, as in having an increased income over time, is by implementing a cap on workers. And in order to keep the girls entry fees low, a cap on clubs should also be put in place (reduced management).
Pistons. I didn't say the influence of our actions was zero, just our discussions LOL.
You are right about the increased entry costs for girls: in 2003 they were only paying around 50 euros entry (65 entry but with various rebates) but now it is around 75 (plus of course the 25 euro tax). This higher daily upfront cost is a daily stress for the less successful girls.
As for the total pool of money for P6, I agree it is not likely to be affected by marginal price changes. The FKK model greatly increased the available pool of money, but I can't think of any new innovation which can expand the market, and hence earning opportunities for girls
[QUOTE=Optimist;2029857]Pistons. I didn't say the influence of our actions was zero, just our discussions LOL.[/QUOTE]And I am saying basically that everybody reads the forum. Or has someone that reads it in proximity to them who voices their thoughts if something interesting comes up. That is the information society we live in in a nutshell.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2029851] (particularly when girls are coming from the financial insecurity of a dirt poor background)[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Optimist;2029851]I have had more than one girl tell me of their absolute contempt for 30 minute men who give 5 or 10 euro tips (no, I'm not referring here to Pistons as I don't know who or in what exact circumstances he tips)[/QUOTE]Oh here we go again with the politically correct "they are poor, so they had no chances in life" argument.
Great so we can forget the E55 or E60 per hour discussion if these girls are too ignorant or arrogant to realise that a 'lousy' E5 or E10 tip equals to 10-20% extra.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2029857]The FKK model greatly increased the available pool of money, but I can't think of any new innovation which can expand the market, and hence earning opportunities for girls[/QUOTE]Wellness: swimming pools, sauna, steamroom, jacuuzi, holes in the garden (football), volleyball, ping pong. That is why the small clubs are the ones that should close down and not the larger ones with more wellness options. Preferably wellness that doesn't add employment, although I guess some like their hamam and thai massages too.
Also niche themed clubs. Oase has their niche. Sharks, Oceans, Paradise all plays on a niche. Parties can also add to the money pool. Palace parties are great for example! Other clubs can learn...
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2029861]Oh here we go again with the politically correct "they are poor, so they had no chances in life" argument.
Great so we can forget the E55 or E60 per hour discussion if these girls are too ignorant or arrogant to realise that a 'lousy' E5 or E10 tip equals to 10-20% extra.[/QUOTE]Harry. You misread my post to draw the total opposite conclusion from what I said: I was trying to write a nuanced report, which unfortunately means that it is easy to misunderstand if not taken as a whole.
Just because I report what girls say doesn't mean I agree. I thought my post made it clear I saw it as an example of greed.
Also I never never implied that someone from a poor background was justified in bad behavior: I just point out that it can help lead to a certain attitude. One which I think is wrong.
I don't think 60 euros per half hour is a good idea as a solution to bad behaviour.
If I had been being "politically correct" (which I was very definitely not), you would be best to engage me in discussion, not throw the (erroneous) label at me
Conclusion: i completely agree with you so there's no need to argue with me :)
[QUOTE=Pistons;2029864]Wellness: swimming pools, sauna, steamroom, jacuuzi, holes in the garden (football), volleyball, ping pong. That is why the small clubs are the ones that should close down and not the larger ones with more wellness options. Preferably wellness that doesn't add employment, although I guess some like their hamam and thai massages too.
Also niche themed clubs. Oase has their niche. Sharks, Oceans, Paradise all plays on a niche. Parties can also add to the money pool. Palace parties are great for example! Other clubs can learn...[/QUOTE]Good point. I wrote just the other day that this is one reason which the RTC are getting it seems to me fewer customers. Sharks has some good opportunities for product development (despite its tight site).
[QUOTE=Optimist;2029868]Good point. I wrote just the other day that this is one reason which the RTC are getting it seems to me fewer customers.[/QUOTE]Indeed, and it seems games like pool, shuffleboard, airhockey, ping pong, dart and quizzes are expanding from the niche bars to the entire nightlife market now.
At Optimist,
Sorry, I indeed misread your post. My apologies.
One more thing they can add to reduce cost at the clubs: bionic bartenders:
[URL]https://youtu.be/TBF7EE2xnN4[/URL]
[QUOTE=Optimist;2029868]Good point. I wrote just the other day that this is one reason which the RTC are getting it seems to me fewer customers. Sharks has some good opportunities for product development (despite its tight site).[/QUOTE]What type of club would be the first to go? An RTC with smaller bills or a club like Oceans that sunk alot of cash into the club? From the looks of the setup at Sharks I'd guess their overhead and start up costs are marginal compared to building a club from the ground up.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2029704]You've got to be fucking kidding me!?
Why raise prices to E60? So that you can have the same lame service for E60 instead of E50? You really think that for E10 difference the scammers, swindlers and the sharks will go like: "but yes of course, for E10 extra I will now kiss!
Paying [b]more[/b] for [u]less[/u] service, that's a bit naive, isn't it? Which business school did you go to? 🙄
The problem is twofold: too many tourists/naive souls willing to pay E50 for substandard service (and probably even dumb enough to give a tip.[/QUOTE]Upselling is only problem in fucking tourists or Asians clubs, like Palace, Oase, Sharks or GT. So many clubs were not the faintest upselling. I have very close to 50 rooms with Kate at Acapulco, she would be one of the prettiest in all Hessen clubs and at GT, but I have her for 40 €/30 mn, mostly 1 hour rooms for 80 and she never asked for tip or extra, only smiles and when you come again?
Do Mandy or Sandra need to upsell? Of course they don't, they give good services even for only 50 , even I m not a 50 € guy. Good services girls don't need to upsell to make good money, Sandra was quite busy just because of her nice behavior. In German FKK, some good girls make more than 15000 per month. Girls who upsell are not the best level.
My advice: don't pay extra for DFK, you will have very rare kiss, not fluent, not passionate at all. Some GFE girls are generous and passionate, without upselling, only for 50/30 mn, and they ask if you would like to repeat.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2029848]First all, we should acknowledge that all these WGs are actually service providers, they are entitled to get fair and reasonable pay. However, Excessive competition between WGs leads to not only a decline in the quality of service but the prevalence of frustration for both sides. There must be a win-win situation.
I have gone with more than 50 girls in the past three years in different clubs. According to my own experience, majority of them accept 100 one-hour session and would like to provide decent service. They all complained 50 half-hours session and considered mongers might take advantage through that.
So I think the better pricing structure is to set the minimum service to 1 hour for 100 instead of the current half hour. After this first initial hour, 50 for every extension of half an hour.
I am sure most girl will be happy with that.[/QUOTE]I'm really not a 50 € 30 mn guy, just when I don't enjoy, but never if I enjoy, but some guys don't have much money to spend, and some good girls like Mandy or Marina or Martina agree to work good job for 50 €. It can be win-win for some not rich guys and some good girls.
Lazy girls seem to be more expensive than skillful girls.
Girls can go to Switzerland for higher rates, but how many at Sharks could get business there, with high level enough?
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2029704]
Paying [b]more[/b] for [u]less[/u] service, that's a bit naive, isn't it? Which business school did you go to? 🙄
[/QUOTE]You are a twerpy little chipmunk, aren't you?! 😀 Never mind which school I went; wanting all for a 50 doesn't make you well schooled, it just makes you a cheapskate. You should skip FKKs and go to Tijuana or some cheap third world place to fit your budget. Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2029848]First all, we should acknowledge that all these WGs are actually service providers, they are entitled to get fair and reasonable pay. However, Excessive competition between WGs leads to not only a decline in the quality of service but the prevalence of frustration for both sides. There must be a win-win situation.
.......
So I think the better pricing structure is to set the minimum service to 1 hour for 100 instead of the current half hour. After this first initial hour, 50 for every extension of half an hour..[/QUOTE]I am willing to help these girls If they'd like to provide quality service, and know how to respect the guests.
Among 150 WGs in Sharks, how many of them deserve so called "minimum one hour 100 euros payment"? Maybe less than 40%.
The proposed pricing structure will make half of Sharks girls out of FKK business.
I did spend more than 1200 euros on Sandra De, 1500 euros on Nicoletta Hu, 1100 on Megan Ro. And there are 15 other girls I spent on them from 100 to 900 euros since 2015. And about 30 girls, I spent total 1500 E on them, and considered it worthless.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2029704]Why raise prices to E60? So that you can have the same lame service for E60 instead of E50? You really think that for E10 difference the scammers, swindlers and the sharks will go like: "but yes of course, for E10 extra I will now kiss!
Why not say: "for E50 there is no need (illegal anyways!) to do a BBBJ, so now kissing (not illegal) should be part of the standard package?" We will still lose out on something (due to legal changes) as both used to be included, but at least we're not going to pay [b]extra[/b] for [u]less[/u] service![/QUOTE]I think it will be 60 or more with less service as the new law should make illegal all bb (maybe also FK, touch, some dangerous positions for condom later) and a raise on living costs for foreign girls.
I do not understand this law as if sex is dangerous then the true decision should be to make it illegal. It will solve a lot of problems as in about one hundred years, the last man on earth will die.
There's a competition in all said developed countries: who will be the most stupid. Germany was late, but grossmutty Angela did a good job. I would say, she clearly is one of those people thinking sex is not essential for life. We can import from africa. Yes we can.
No sex, no work, no liberty, no people. We can import, yes we can.
[QUOTE=HappyFkk;2030139]I think it will be 60 or more with less service as the new law should make illegal all bb (maybe also FK, touch, some dangerous positions for condom later) and a raise on living costs for foreign girls.
I do not understand this law as if sex is dangerous then the true decision should be to make it illegal. It will solve a lot of problems as in about one hundred years, the last man on earth will die.
There's a competition in all said developed countries: who will be the most stupid. Germany was late, but grossmutty Angela did a good job. I would say, she clearly is one of those people thinking sex is not essential for life. We can import from africa. Yes we can.
No sex, no work, no liberty, no people. We can import, yes we can.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your point of view, let us may be see the things from the german woman side many of them are upset by the over easy availability of cheap sex and are complaining that their husband or boyfriend's prefer visit a FKK than to stay with her and discuss about the problems if any.
[QUOTE=HappyFkk;2030139]I think it will be 60 or more with less service as the new law should make illegal all bb (maybe also FK, touch, some dangerous positions for condom later) and a raise on living costs for foreign girls.
I do not understand this law as if sex is dangerous then the true decision should be to make it illegal. It will solve a lot of problems as in about one hundred years, the last man on earth will die.
There's a competition in all said developed countries: who will be the most stupid. Germany was late, but grossmutty Angela did a good job. I would say, she clearly is one of those people thinking sex is not essential for life. We can import from africa. Yes we can.
No sex, no work, no liberty, no people. We can import, yes we can.[/QUOTE]This law seem to aim to protect prostitutes health from diseases risks from AO sex, BBBJ. Also for girls sleeping in beds where they are fucked all day. So, even not German, I agree with this law and I don't worry at all about this new law, paid sex will stay legal in Germany after 1 July, pretty girls will stay pretty, GND will stay GND, and I'm sure most of good services girls will keep good behavior. Nothing will change for me, even a very known writer, but who never write what happen in room.
About upselling and lower level, now at Sharks, it has nothing to do with future law, 100 Romanian girls there don't even know what is new law. I seem to be lucky at Sharks because I didn't experience with Mandy and Gloria, my only Sharks 2017 girls, when I have already more than 30 1 h30 rooms on 2017 with a LR girl. Times changed. But I also think upselling and girls behavior and level, depend on guy behavior, if we find the key we can make the girl behave in different way. Each one his game, many nice girls at the moment for my game, too many with Switzerland. I don't need to lose my time with upselling, most often because unskillful and lazy, girls.
[QUOTE=HappyFkk;2030139]I do not understand this law as if sex is dangerous then the true decision should be to make it illegal.[/QUOTE]Doesn't mean I agree with the BBBJ-ban, but the rationale behind it is the girl's health. And making it illegal and putting a fine on it for the guys only is to strengthen the girl's position. As I said, I don't agree.
HB.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2030054]You are a twerpy little chipmunk, aren't you?! 😀 Never mind which school I went; wanting all for a 50 doesn't make you well schooled, it just makes you a cheapskate. You should skip FKKs and go to Tijuana or some cheap third world place to fit your budget. Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]As I am one who wants all for 50 euros I would answer that I am not a cheapskate (I would wouldn't I :D!). If a girl provides good service for 50 then she finds that I am a good customer, both financially and in other ways, almost certainly repeating in longer sessions. That's just my way of doing business. I don't see why I should pay more than 50 for uncommitted service though. You have your business model which suits you: just because I disagree doesn't make me a cheapskate. If I am cheapskate are you "spendthrift?" :)
I have absolutely no trouble finding girls who are willing to do business with me on my terms.
HB.
Yes, the health issue is relevant (although its use as a rationale for the new law is specious). The longterm health effect of being a prostitute (increased risk of cervical cancer, sexually transmitted diseases) is one consideration which might justify a small increase in price maybe. Very few girls have the mental stamina to work more than five years, after which they are on the employment scrapheap, unless they have saved their money to open a business etc.
Sirioja. Excellent clear summary. Should be handed to each man entering Sharks
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2029965]
Do Mandy or Sandra need to upsell? Of course they don't, they give good services even for only 50 , even I m not a 50 guy. Good services girls don't need to upsell to make good money, Sandra was quite busy just because of her nice behavior. In German FKK, some good girls make more than 15000 per month. Girls who upsell are not the best level.[/QUOTE]Indeed, Mandy and also Lucy Palace (at least in my limited siightings of her) are two girls who doesn't need to upsell and allways have guys waiting. Artemis Carrie also if she didn't turn most guys down (LOL, she doesn't like money). But there are extremely few of these girls that I know of. Maybe countable on one or two hands across all of Germany.
Smart girls get time extensions from me when I loose track of time and feel like I am in utopia. If the girl is pro (not the mechanical type of pro the girls think about) enough, I will extend maybe up to half the time. Like I do for example with Aksena at Artemis. And not upselling is part of her pro attitude. I remember Carly Oceans (Kathy at Wellcum) and Aja Paradise as well as Alexia Sharks (also been at GT Vienna) had the same pro attitude... can also add more girls to the list such as Milli and Juliette Artemis, maybe Jeanette Oase and with me small Adelle Oase, May Oase, Marlyn Sharks, Maggie Palace, Crina Palace, and both Eleny and Alina Oceans are moving towards there but still are young.
Sometimes that proness can be ymmv, but not allways...
On top of that there are girls who are just fun, and not allways as sensual. So you extend with them because of pesonality. Like young Andre Oase for example on a good day. Not everyone is the same...
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2030054]You are a twerpy little chipmunk, aren't you?! 😀 Never mind which school I went; wanting all for a 50 doesn't make you well schooled, it just makes you a cheapskate. You should skip FKKs and go to Tijuana or some cheap third world place to fit your budget. Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Cheap is a relative term.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2030261]Indeed, Mandy and also Lucy Palace (at least in my limited siightings of her) are two girls who doesn't need to upsell and allways have guys waiting. Artemis Carrie also if she didn't turn most guys down (LOL, she doesn't like money).[b] But there are extremely few of these girls that I know of. [/B]Maybe countable on one or two hands across all of Germany.
Smart girls get time extensions from me when I loose track of time and feel like I am in utopia. If the girl is pro (not the mechanical type of pro the girls think about) enough, I will extend maybe up to half the time. Like I do for example with Aksena at Artemis. And not upselling is part of her pro attitude. I remember Carly Oceans (Kathy at Wellcum) and Aja Paradise as well as Alexia Sharks (also been at GT Vienna) had the same pro attitude... can also add more girls to the list such as Milli and Juliette Artemis, maybe Jeanette Oase and with me small Adelle Oase, May Oase, Marlyn Sharks, and both Eleny and Alina Oceans are moving towards there but still are young.
Sometimes that proness can be ymmv, but not allways...[/QUOTE]And what clubs are you most adamant about? Artemis, Palace, Oase, Paradise, Oceans?
When a lot of us talk about services levels in clubs, we don't mean the few around in the sharkiest clubs.
Anyway, for me, it's highest chances of chances of a girl my type I'd meet in clubs that are no landmines, ripoffs, etc. Certainly, service is important. And this has to do with, within the percentage I find attractive, their service level. Have I had a history of good outcomes in this criteria? If not, not a club I would be visiting often or at all.
There can be a LU all stunners, and if the services are mediocre, not worth it.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2030265]
When a lot of us talk about services levels in clubs, we don't mean the few around in the sharkiest clubs.[/QUOTE]For service I could add 50 more girls. But looks needs to be 9+ also. And if you go to your smaller clubs, are you telling me that the top girls there do not have any idle time? Because that was the context of my comment there that you highlighted in bold. About idle time for the girls... and if so, why should anyone bother going to a small club if the top girls there are busy all day long? :p
(I have no idea why you added Paradise in there. It had 1 top girl. Rest very average. And nice VIP room for Formula 1!)
Some of us are risk takers who like dangerous atmosphere. Others wants it safe with strict rules. The bigger the club, the higher the chances for bad apples ruining atmosphere for both guys and girls. But also the higher chances for top girls to make lots of money...
[QUOTE=Pistons;2030261]Indeed, Mandy and also Lucy Palace (at least in my limited siightings of her) are two girls who doesn't need to upsell and allways have guys waiting. Artemis Carrie also if she didn't turn most guys down (LOL, she doesn't like money). But there are extremely few of these girls that I know of. Maybe countable on one or two hands across all of Germany.
Smart girls get time extensions from me when I loose track of time and feel like I am in utopia. If the girl is pro (not the mechanical type of pro the girls think about) enough, I will extend maybe up to half the time. Like I do for example with Aksena at Artemis. And not upselling is part of her pro attitude. I remember Carly Oceans (Kathy at Wellcum) and Aja Paradise as well as Alexia Sharks (also been at GT Vienna) had the same pro attitude... can also add more girls to the list such as Milli and Juliette Artemis, maybe Jeanette Oase and with me small Adelle Oase, May Oase, Marlyn Sharks, Maggie Palace, Crina Palace, and both Eleny and Alina Oceans are moving towards there but still are young.
Sometimes that proness can be ymmv, but not allways...
On top of that there are girls who are just fun, and not allways as sensual. So you extend with them because of pesonality. Like young Andre Oase for example on a good day. Not everyone is the same..[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, Lucy. De upsell now, after her holidays, being asked by other Palace girls to upsell for DFK. We had 4 1 hour really enjoyable rooms before her holidays when I enjoyed she did trust me, thank to your and take posts, but I preferred to stop and lose 50 on fifth room. I will never pay extra for DFK, Lucy was lovely but not a top kisser, when I meet top passionate kisser without upselling.
Girls who are top kisser, never upsell, because they know it makes them have business. Girls who ask for extra, are fake kisser.
Thanks to Lucy who was lovely for our 4 first room, but too frustrating on fifth, as I said to her.
Some high level girls work for 40 or 50/30 mn without upselling, and make 15000 per month, when average Romanian salary is about 300 per month. But it's very bad and difficult job. I m always happy for them when my girls say to retire or take time off.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2030189]As I am one who wants all for 50 euros I would answer that I am not a cheapskate (I would wouldn't I :D!). If a girl provides good service for 50 then she finds that I am a good customer, both financially and in other ways, almost certainly repeating in longer sessions. That's just my way of doing business. I don't see why I should pay more than 50 for uncommitted service though. You have your business model which suits you: just because I disagree doesn't make me a cheapskate. If I am cheapskate are you "spendthrift?" :)
I have absolutely no trouble finding girls who are willing to do business with me on my terms.[/QUOTE]No. Unless you are Harry's keeper now, my comment was not directed at you in anyway. I expressed my view on pricing and service here as we all do, but he was compelled to move in and take a personal potshot at me for reasons of his own, and unfortunately I replied in kind. But if you need to jump into the fray in support of him, feel free.
Anyway, in my original comment I inserted the word "if" (but apparently many commenters here chose to ignore that word or don't understand it). As in, if the club mandates DFK with the 60 pricing, just as they do with BBBJ now, I will be supportive. (It is a bit moot for me personally in any case because I don't need DFK with most girls unless they are my special ones, which are just 5 or 6 in 4 years). Right now, if a girl refuses to give BBBJ you can refuse to pay or go and complain. But no such provision exists for DFK and 80% of the complaints here are "girl x sharked me, didn't give DFK". It's almost as if lack of DFK is synonymous with scamming and sharking around here. NOw, if the club unilaterally mandated DFK as part of 50 E girls would be up in arms, and if they raised prices to 60 with nothing in return, guys would revolt, but DFK included for 60 E finds a happy medium. If the girl refuses to DFK, the guy can then approach the front desk.
Whether this is workable or not is unclear to me, and no one knows for sure until such a rule is truly implemented, but it is an idea. No better or worse than any other idea (s).
No, not taking sides. Your comments just made me think so I commented (in, I hope, a good natured way).
Yes, I do see refusal of DFK as sharky. But then, as PL pointed out, customers like me who have been around since 2002 in FKK are more likely to have that view. And as you say, DFK is not important for you so you will see things very differently to me. DFK used to be the invariable standard service, as near to 100% as makes no difference.
Anyway, I certainly didn't mean you to feel I was wading into a fray against you, so apologies if I gave that impression. On reflection, IF your idea could be made to work at Sharks (which I don't think is possible) I would reluctantly pay 60. As you say, it is as good as any other person's ideas (except of course mine which are always the only correct ideas :D (self deprecating irony warning).
Still, plenty of workers in many clubs offering excellent service for 50 or under.
Cheapskate Optimist
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2029969]I'm really not a 50 30 mn guy, just when I don't enjoy, but never if I enjoy, but some guys don't have much money to spend, and some good girls like Mandy or Marina or Martina agree to work good job for 50 . It can be win-win for some not rich guys and some good girls.
Lazy girls seem to be more expensive than skillful girls.
Girls can go to Switzerland for higher rates, but how many at Sharks could get business there, with high level enough?[/QUOTE]Since some months, I meet my regulars in hotel. 3 hours or more, 1 h 100 e. Better for me, more relax, no stress, girls appreciate this a lot, because majority don't like to work in clubs and spend 100 e for entry, 20 e for taxe.
I have established a relationship of trust with some girls (a minority) which is reciprocal. They trust me, I trust them.
I think sessions 50 e are good the first time you go in room with a girl. After, if the feeling is good, why not to spend more time.
Also, I understand that some men don't have money for more.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2029991]JohnEllee. You went with 50 girls and they ALL complained about 30 minute sessions? How did this subject come up with 100% regularity.[/QUOTE]About 10 girls, I offered 1 hours session at our first-time room. Among other girls, half of them rejected 30 min session when repeated. For The rest half, I could tell their reluctance for 50-euro sessions.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2029991]Raising FKK prices will in no way, I believe, reduce the motivation for greedy workers to exploit whatever options they have to extract further extra money by limiting their service[/QUOTE]I don't believe changing minimum service time from 0. 5 hour to 1 hour is " Raising FKK price". The extension of every half hours is still 50 euros. Artemis pricing schema is 60 e for every half hour. I consider that case is the price rising.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2029991]I remember you saying that 3000 euros is nothing to you or most mongers. I wonder how many club regulars consider that to be nothing?[/QUOTE]Depending on scenarios. 3000 euros is nothing if I spent on right girls.
Yes I agree with you that it could be enormous money for someone if he only wants to spend 50 euro but still demand best looks and service.
No offense.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2030387]I m always happy for them when my girls say to retire or take time off.[/QUOTE]Some girls say they retire. Then they run out of money and come back. They just cannot get anything close to this income back in romania.
The dfk idea could work... I wonder about the girls reactions however. But it would be fun to find out...
You can't underestimate the impact of a mandated bundled service. We never hear about any girl sharking even foreign newbies about charging extras for BBBJ or refusing to provide it for reasons of not liking BBBJ etc. Why is that? Because any man can take her to the front desk if such a thing happens. In clubs in other countries where BBBJ is not bundled into the package and mandated by the management, it's all over the place: some girls provide, some charge $x and others charge $z, yadda yadda.
I hear the old timers that BBBJ was a standard component, every girl provided, and so on. But the genie is out of the bottle, and those days are long gone; ain't coming back. Now, some girls do and some don't. More often, they don't. If you are a regular and they think you will stay a regular, they might. In smaller clubs, more do. Yes, we know all these variants. But it still remains that not every girl is, and that's the crux of it.
I strongly suspect BBBJ market would have evolved the same as DFK in the last few years if it was left to the girls. It stayed the way it did in German clubs because clubs kept it as part of the basic package. Now, in a few weeks, that too is gone. And we will have this same lousy discussion all over again endlessly, except it will be "Lisa provided BBBJ but Maggie doesn't, Mary does but for an extra tenner" and so on. In fact, I wonder how many men will even fess upto getting it if the cops and prosecutors begin a real crackdown with hefty fines etc. Right now, guys keep lists of girls who provide AO and other forbidden services a secret or between close friends (I think; have no personal idea about this), and bbbj could end up in the same way.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2030458]Some girls say they retire. Then they run out of money and come back. They just cannot get anything close to this income back in romania.
The dfk idea could work... I wonder about the girls reactions however. But it would be fun to find out...[/QUOTE]I was very happy for Katalina. Ro when she said to retire on end of November, because job became too difficult for her. When she asked if I would miss her, I answered I was happy for her, but of course I would miss such a lovely, classy Moldavian Romanian woman, but after her public sex seen, when she returned for Globe Sylvester party, at the beginning I decided not to go, and later she became another WG for me, and when I was close, skiing in great Switzerland, I preferred to go to History or Swiss or disappointing Palace Luzern.
Even some are not able to understand, I'm always happy when my favorites are at home or want to retire, far from this bad job, and even I miss them, I don t worry because I know I will find new girls. Like in savannah, one disappear, at least one new will born.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2030442]About 10 girls, I offered 1 hours session at our first-time room. Among other girls, half of them rejected 30 min session when repeated. For The rest half, I could tell their reluctance for 50-euro sessions.
I don't believe changing minimum service time from 0. 5 hour to 1 hour is " Raising FKK price". The extension of every half hours is still 50 euros. Artemis pricing schema is 60 e for every half hour. I consider that case is the price rising.
Depending on scenarios. 3000 euros is nothing if I spent on right girls.
Yes I agree with you that it could be enormous money for someone if he only wants to spend 50 euro but still demand best looks and service.
No offense.[/QUOTE]When I spend only 50 € and only 30 mn with a girl, it's because I don't enjoy and I feel I lose my money. I prefer to spend 100 or 150 and take my time to enjoy a lovely, classy, sensual girl, but minimum monthly salary in France is only not much more than 1000, when it's 4200 in Switzerland.
Some German brothels good WGs make 15000, some Globe high level WGs make 25000.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2030474]I hear the old timers that BBBJ was a standard component, every girl provided, and so on. [/QUOTE]DFK is a standard component in some FKK and girls cannot refuse it. As I remember DFK is mandatory component in Babylon (Elsdorf), Bernds (Shifergof), former Panthera House (but not in Acapulco Gold), AO RCC clubs, etc.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2030474]You can't underestimate the impact of a mandated bundled service. We never hear about any girl sharking even foreign newbies about charging extras for BBBJ or refusing to provide it for reasons of not liking BBBJ etc. Why is that? Because any man can take her to the front desk if such a thing happens. In clubs in other countries where BBBJ is not bundled into the package and mandated by the management, it's all over the place: some girls provide, some charge $x and others charge $z, yadda yadda.
I hear the old timers that BBBJ was a standard component, every girl provided, and so on. But the genie is out of the bottle, and those days are long gone; ain't coming back. Now, some girls do and some don't. More often, they don't. If you are a regular and they think you will stay a regular, they might. In smaller clubs, more do. Yes, we know all these variants. But it still remains that not every girl is, and that's the crux of it.
I strongly suspect BBBJ market would have evolved the same as DFK in the last few years if it was left to the girls. It stayed the way it did in German clubs because clubs kept it as part of the basic package. Now, in a few weeks, that too is gone. And we will have this same lousy discussion all over again endlessly, except it will be "Lisa provided BBBJ but Maggie doesn't, Mary does but for an extra tenner" and so on. In fact, I wonder how many men will even fess upto getting it if the cops and prosecutors begin a real crackdown with hefty fines etc. Right now, guys keep lists of girls who provide AO and other forbidden services a secret or between close friends (I think; have no personal idea about this), and bbbj could end up in the same way.[/QUOTE]I am making last trip before July, then I may shift to Austrian club or Zurich club as I may get it or I may not in German club after July, but who want all these annoying negotiation etc.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2030498]DFK is a standard component in some FKK and girls cannot refuse it. As I remember DFK is mandatory component in Babylon (Elsdorf), Bernds (Shifergof), former Panthera House (but not in Acapulco Gold), AO RCC clubs, etc.[/QUOTE]It used to be like that maybe but now I do not know any clubs that provide DFK as standard service, clubs I refer to are FKK. Unfortunately.
If it transfer to BBBJ, then I got to move on to FKK in other nation which are just across the mountain alps LOL.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2030532]It used to be like that maybe but now I do not know any clubs that provide DFK as standard service, clubs I refer to are FKK. Unfortunately.
If it transfer to BBBJ, then I got to move on to FKK in other nation which are just across the mountain alps LOL.[/QUOTE]I think at Babylon Elsdorf, LR, Bernds but very average faces there, may be more difficult to find a girl who upsell for kissing or BBBJ, than girls who fluently kiss and don't even know the word upselling, even mostly Romanians, some really passionate kisser.
Clubs don't have same standard services. Public foreplay at Bab and Bernds.
Lucy. De who kissed for free at Palace, was said later by other girls to ask extra 50. She was surprised I refused this extra when it's standard at Palace, but she kissed for free for our 4 first rooms.
I met a German beauty at Oceans, she said not kissing, I didn't go, I found her again at LR, and I really enjoyed her for over 1 hour.
In Switzerland, I never met a girl not fluently kissing as standard services. Lorena. Ro and Irina. Mold really passionate.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2030498]DFK is a standard component in some FKK and girls cannot refuse it. As I remember DFK is mandatory component in Babylon (Elsdorf), Bernds (Shifergof), former Panthera House (but not in Acapulco Gold), AO RCC clubs, etc.[/QUOTE]Not quite correct, but I see where you are coming from.
I can only speak for Bernd's of course, but several Bernd's girls have told me that they indeed CAN refuse DFK to any gent for hygienic reasons (bad breath, too much alcohol, ++), but they have to be upfront with it giving the gent a chance to abort the session without having to pay. So; DFK is indeed a standard service that should be expected, but have no doubts; it can be refused.
What is unheard of, of course, is a Bernd's girl asking for extra for DFK or saying it is subject to 1 HR session. That will never happen.
John Ellee.
Thanks for the explanation: now your original comment makes sense to me.
No offence taken.
We have different views: 3000 on one girl is for me a lot of money.
After a few months spell away from FKK land I should be spending a weekend around FFM later in May.
Sharks is definitely on the list but I was wondering if one of my favorite girls is still working there: it's Angelika from Latvia, the milfy baltic lady.
Yes, I have a sweet tooth for big asses / thick hips / big naturals. Any other girl fitting the description you would recommend?
[QUOTE=MrHo;2030520]I am making last trip before July, then I may shift to Austrian club or Zurich club as I may get it or I may not in German club after July, but who want all these annoying negotiation etc.[/QUOTE]Problem with Switzerland is it's twice as expensive, not just sex but hotels and everything. Austria is also more expensive than Germany and DFK is rarer (see my post, the War on Kissing).
Any other FKK countries?
In general though the Achilles Heel of the FKK concept is that it makes sex centralized and so subject to the death-chilling embrace of Regulation.
I'm with Sirioja on this. I rarely take girls for less than an hour session and usually include one or two extras as well so I don't think much will change for me personally after July 1st. Secondly if you think about it, 50/30 has been the going rate for a long time- certainly since my 10 years of mongering in FKKs- and I can't think of another industry where the price has stayed the same for a decade or more! Those wanting the same service for 50 E which others who are willing to spent a lot more time and money on are living in a fool's paradise and are cheap fkkers! Think of it from a girl's perspective: why should she give the same level of service to a guy who is only paying 50 E as compared to someone paying her 250 E? Doesn't make sense right?
Of course as a buyer I would prefer if it stayed as it is but I am realistic enough to understand why a lot of girls no longer offer DFK and everything for just 50/30. If I was a FKK girl I wouldn't either. You can't expect to pay McDonald's prices and get Michelin star service! Since I've been a regular at many clubs I can still get my regular girls to give my DFK and excellent GFE services but that's because they know I am going to spend time with them of at least one hour although if I'm rushed and spend only 30 min they still give me the same level of service for 50. But I'd be naive to expect that from a girl I'm going with for the first time. Sure if it happens that's great and then almost certainly I'll extend to an hour or more with her so she'll become one of my regulars.
Just saying. As the girls say, 'No Money, No Honey! Maybe the advantage of this new law where I suspect only those willing to spend more than 50 will get BBBJ etc. Is that it'll weed out the cheapskates from the FKK mongering world thus raising the service for us all.
Who knows. Let's wait and see. Still after July 1st Germany will still remain the best price-to-service mongering place in the developed world.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2030692]John Ellee.
Thanks for the explanation: now your original comment makes sense to me.
No offence taken.
We have different views: 3000 on one girl is for me a lot of money.[/QUOTE]Sometimes when you find your really top girl who is all what you like as woman behavior, only 23 yo, but Romanian sophisticated classy brunette with very white skin and green eyes, becoming very hot, you can be about 2000 per month on only her, 5 hours weekly. I agree this is too much money, and my bank is happy when she is on holidays. But, if sometimes I think I lost 50 € with some girls, I don t regret my more than 30 1 h 30 rooms since end of December, even not sure we will go for record.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2030724]Problem with Switzerland is it's twice as expensive, not just sex but hotels and everything. Austria is also more expensive than Germany and DFK is rarer (see my post, the War on Kissing).
Any other FKK countries?
In general though the Achilles Heel of the FKK concept is that it makes sex centralized and so subject to the death-chilling embrace of Regulation.[/QUOTE]No big problems for DFK at Wellcum and Andiamo. At for 70/30 mn.
Fortunately, many German clubs where DFK are standard without upselling.
After 1st July, YY NL will become Eldorado for BBBJ.
For PL and her fans.
From jolie Sara with her high black socks at Mainhattan, to Sharks rather than Palace, improving her nails color care, model Meg. Ro is now ready for better business her beauty deserve, at Globe, as Megan there. If Aurelia succeeded, she can get good business there. No need to be a porn performer, she has the sweet behavior, men who are able to love women, like.
It was just devil thanks to her, for free and she will have more time at home between tours when she should make bigger money, being one of the prettiest when casting is lower than last Summer.
[QUOTE=Shark16;2030663]Not quite correct, but I see where you are coming from.
I can only speak for Bernd's of course, but several Bernd's girls have told me that they indeed CAN refuse DFK to any gent for hygienic reasons (bad breath, too much alcohol, ++), but they have to be upfront with it giving the gent a chance to abort the session without having to pay. So; DFK is indeed a standard service that should be expected, but have no doubts; it can be refused.
What is unheard of, of course, is a Bernd's girl asking for extra for DFK or saying it is subject to 1 HR session. That will never happen.[/QUOTE]When I got lost at Bernds last Friday, I saw at the bar downstairs a 19 yo Romanian girl long time deeply kissing a old fat guy who opened her legs as she was sitting, to put fingers in her pussy, at the bar. I preferred to turn the head. After few minutes, he fucked her in the room with window.
I really don t know what Bernds girls refuse, and that s why these kind of guys visit Bernds, because they know girls don t refuse anything.
My regulars ask me not to take them to kino, my regular number 1 preferred we wait for more than 2 hours for key.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2030442]
I don't believe changing minimum service time from 0. 5 hour to 1 hour is " Raising FKK price". The extension of every half hours is still 50 euros. Artemis pricing schema is 60 e for every half hour. I consider that case is the price rising.[/QUOTE]Only as long as you consider the 2nd half to be as valuable for you as a customer as the 1st half. To me, it never is, and for the girls also, it never is as they need to shower after the session. The +100% price for the 2nd half hour is thus quite moronic. And that is why I would consider the minimum 1 h a price hike. I would be fine with 60e half h/100e full h however. Then the girls inflation argument goes away, and on paper they would have less to argue with. But that is a different price hike.
Sybarite: what you don't consider is points already raised. Reduce the 30min session quality, and less guys will take chances on trying new girls. Fractional spending will also decrease. The total money supply spent for FKK's will thus fall, and as far as what I can tell, that is and in a sane world, should be the main point here. If guys and girls are happier, the total spending also increases...
People need to take a short micro economics course... And here I was thinking most guys who ventures in the german financial hub of frankfurt were economists. (No offence ofc)
I don t think 60 € for first 30 mn would improve low level girls. From my very few, weekly experiences, high level girls don t upsell, don t ask for tip, sometimes even offer extra like CIM or other games, just for club rate, but with high level girls, I never stay 30 mn because most often we are kissing and caressing for more than 30 mn, so as I become slower and slower to kiss and lick, with really high level girls, my standard is often 1 h30 and 150 , with 1 hour to foreplay.
After 1st July, high level girls will stay high level, and even paying extra, low level girls are low level because they just don t have woman skill and behavior.
A rhyme some girls used to have.
"If you think my charge is funny.
Go fuck yourself and save your money".
I'm not making any point. Just amuses me.
[QUOTE=TrebleMachine;2030719]After a few months spell away from FKK land I should be spending a weekend around FFM later in May.
Sharks is definitely on the list but I was wondering if one of my favorite girls is still working there: it's Angelika from Latvia, the milfy baltic lady.
Yes, I have a sweet tooth for big asses / thick hips / big naturals. Any other girl fitting the description you would recommend?[/QUOTE]I've got pretty much the same tastes as you. Do you know which club is best to find those curvy MILF beauties? There is this very tall curvy Lithuanian blonde at Sharks, I forgot her name but she really turned me on when I first saw her and her service was top notch. I might go there again next week to see her. I actually knew a Latvian escort in London back in the day which matches your description pretty much, she left the UK a few years ago but told me she was going to Germany every now and then.
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2030732]I'm with Sirioja on this. I rarely take girls for less than an hour session and usually include one or two extras as well so I don't think much will change for me personally after July 1st. Secondly if you think about it, 50/30 has been the going rate for a long time- certainly since my 10 years of mongering in FKKs- and I can't think of another industry where the price has stayed the same for a decade or more! Those wanting the same service for 50 E which others who are willing to spent a lot more time and money on are living in a fool's paradise and are cheap fkkers! Think of it from a girl's perspective: why should she give the same level of service to a guy who is only paying 50 E as compared to someone paying her 250 E? Doesn't make sense right?
Of course as a buyer I would prefer if it stayed as it is but I am realistic enough to understand why a lot of girls no longer offer DFK and everything for just 50/30. If I was a FKK girl I wouldn't either. You can't expect to pay McDonald's prices and get Michelin star service! Since I've been a regular at many clubs I can still get my regular girls to give my DFK and excellent GFE services but that's because they know I am going to spend time with them of at least one hour although if I'm rushed and spend only 30 min they still give me the same level of service for 50..[/QUOTE]I don't agree, even I m not a 50 € guy, but I m not a model for what to do. When I spend too much money in brothels, I can understand some guys can't afford to spend much, but also want to have good time. Some can only have 130 mn room for 40 at Aca or 50 elsewhere. Fortunately, I think girls like Mandy or Marina. Lat try to please good behavior clients, even for short time and small money room.
For those who knew little angel Ina. Lat, the most honest girl, when she worked at VIP GT on July 2013, she respected rate at this time, so you could fuck her for 2 hours for 125, for 3 hours for 175, for 4 hours for 225. High level honest girl fluently kissing, skillful for BBBJ.
Upselling girls are not the best in room. Money talk kill my desire, that's why I never speak about money with WGs, we both know club rates.
My advice: when a girl start to upsell before room, next one, play again. When a girl start the room upselling, don't touch her and leave the room, to find next one.
Of course, this is very difficult bad job, but how many of us make 50/30 mn in our job, in Germany, in France or even in Switzerland? In France, it would be 15000/16000 per month.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2030827]Only as long as you consider the 2nd half to be as valuable for you as a customer as the 1st half. To me, it never is, and for the girls also, it never is as they need to shower after the session. The +100% price for the 2nd half hour is thus quite moronic. And that is why I would consider the minimum 1 h a price hike. I would be fine with 60e half h/100e full h however. Then the girls inflation argument goes away, and on paper they would have less to argue with. But that is a different price hike.
Sybarite: what you don't consider is points already raised. Reduce the 30min session quality, and less guys will take chances on trying new girls. Fractional spending will also decrease. The total money supply spent for FKK's will thus fall, and as far as what I can tell, that is and in a sane world, should be the main point here. If guys and girls are happier, the total spending also increases...
People need to take a short micro economics course... And here I was thinking most guys who ventures in the german financial hub of frankfurt were economists. (No offence ofc)[/QUOTE]It depends for what you are looking for, let us imagine a session like this, first kissing, touching the body, discovering the other, after some nice DFK which can take at least 15 minimum if you want to be sure the girl will get some real pleasure, after sex in 2 or 3 positions, and after coming you stay with her at least for 15 minutes to enjoy the after sex time, how to do this in 30 minutes?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2030776]For PL and her fans.
From jolie Sara with her high black socks at Mainhattan, to Sharks rather than Palace, improving her nails color care, model Meg. Ro is now ready for better business her beauty deserve, at Globe, as Megan there. If Aurelia succeeded, she can get good business there. No need to be a porn performer, she has the sweet behavior, men who are able to love women, like.
It was just devil thanks to her, for free and she will have more time at home between tours when she should make bigger money, being one of the prettiest when casting is lower than last Summer.[/QUOTE]Hey Sirioja,
Do you know where in Germany I can find natural curvy beautiful milfs? Preferably Germans and EE girls. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2030781]When I got lost at Bernds last Friday, I saw at the bar downstairs a 19 yo Romanian girl long time deeply kissing a old fat guy who opened her legs as she was sitting, to put fingers in her pussy, at the bar. I preferred to turn the head. After few minutes, he fucked her in the room with window.
I really don t know what Bernds girls refuse, and that s why these kind of guys visit Bernds, because they know girls don t refuse anything.
My regulars ask me not to take them to kino, my regular number 1 preferred we wait for more than 2 hours for key.[/QUOTE]You're such a gentleman and adonis, I envy the princesses who are allowed to enjoy your juvenile body, love making techniques and eloquent compliments.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2030922]You're such a gentleman and adonis, I envy the princesses who are allows to enjoy your juvenile body, love making techniques and eloquent compliments.
HB.[/QUOTE]I don't understand your ironic comment, is it not human and gentlemen to have some limits in our behavior, do you really think that a guy who in front of others is putting his fingers in a pussy of a poor / desperate girl, is behaving like a real man who is loving girls or just like a perverse poor man who should certainly invest his money in a psychotherapy and not in clubs.
Thanks, now I have a new comment to use when girls try to upsell:
"I think your charge is funny".
If they respond with.
"Then go fuck yourself and save your money".
I will answer with.
"Fine, I might as well go wank my johnny".
Or.
"If you insist, but I will think of you, my little bunny".
[QUOTE=Pistons;2030938]Thanks, now I have a new comment to use when girls try to upsell:
"I think your charge is funny".
If they respond with.
"Then go fuck yourself and save your money".
I will answer with.
"Fine, I might as well go wank my johnny".
Or.
"If you insist, but I will think of you, my little bunny".[/QUOTE]Are you really still this kind of guy after so many experiences who is believing that he can get everything for 50 euros let us be reasonable, we all know that for 95% of us it is impossible, just some german guys in the clubs believe it and are stressfully looking for the new comers to try to get the maximum from that new girls for 50 euros, it is disapparating me about he human being.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2030758]No big problems for DFK at Wellcum and Andiamo. At for 70/30 mn.
[/QUOTE]Sure there are problems. You were a bit more detailed when you visited last year:
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1923346]For my 6 girls at Wellcum and Andiamo, all provided BBBJ for 70/30 mn, 3 provided DFK but not all along the room, I had to get kisses, so, not fluent enough for me, compare to Germany. But no extra asked. Only Italian Anna said: no kiss. In Germany, I often get fluent DFK on first room without extra asked. So, Austria seem more expensive and lower level for GF behavior.[/QUOTE]And actually I know from my own experiences in Wellcum and Andiamo that there is a lot more resistance to DFK than in the service-oriented NRW clubs. See my reports from Austria too. In summary: it had its moments but I won't return there.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2030922]You're such a gentleman and adonis, I envy the princesses who are allowed to enjoy your juvenile body, love making techniques and eloquent compliments.
HB.[/QUOTE]Quite firm and not too fat, I think. Also not smelling beer, nor ashtray.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2030945]Sure there are problems. You were a bit more detailed when you visited last year:
And actually I know from my own experiences in Wellcum and Andiamo that there is a lot more resistance to DFK than in the service-oriented NRW clubs. See my reports from Austria too. In summary: it had its moments but I won't return there.[/QUOTE]I remember only Natalia. Hu and Anna. It at Wellcum, the best and the worst, but Anna is a beautiful Italian woman. Natalia kissed.
Of course, not same level than LR or Bab for GFE, but wish to repeat with Natalia on next August when fighting with Zoncolan, but now I know I m stronger than Giro devil.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2030922]You're such a gentleman and adonis, I envy the princesses who are allowed to enjoy your juvenile body, love making techniques and eloquent compliments.
HB.[/QUOTE]Shave your legs, paint your nails, grow a real woman unlimited vagina and maybe you'll be lucky enough to taste the french lovemaking of Monsieur Sirioja!
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2030951]Shave your legs, paint your nails, grow a real woman unlimited vagina and maybe you'll be lucky enough to taste the french lovemaking of Monsieur Sirioja![/QUOTE]For sure, I prefer to touch good body care women, rather than monkeys.
Madi World I touched for 1 year, was baby skin and fresh breathe. Megan I also touched for more than 1 year, was also high level for care and not smoking. She seems happy about her start at Globe. I found only 1 girl cute with her monkey legs.
Facts are just I repeat very often with many girls and they come to me, I don't need to run after them, after first room.
Was at Sharks over the weekend. I guess it was a wrong weekend to be in Germany as it's Labor Day holiday on Monday for most European. Plus this week is a "Golden Week" for Japanese where they have a whole week off. As you can imagine, the club was full of people and Asian. Since Asian like the similar girls all of my top girls were all busy. Of course, I found the time to be with them but they were constantly booked through out the day. Note to self; do not go to Germany during the May 1st holiday!
We all know about the condom law but I didn't realize the affect on the girls with these new laws. I didn't know that they need to "register" with the local authority, have an annual health "meeting?" and if they are under 21, twice a yr. Some even said they would need to start paying tax. Sadly, my top three girls will no longer be at Sharks after July first, for sure. I think we will see a lot less girls at the club come July 1st as some of them do not want to register and have it on a record that they are a "worker". I guess my recommendation is to go before July 1st.
Since my favorites were away or very busy, I get to try some new talents (to me).
[B]Nicolette[/B] she is getting very busy now, I rarely see her around. Good for her, she is a very nice and sweet girl and good with everything.
[B]Evita[/B] as you can imagine, she was very busy over the weekend. If you are one of her fans, I'd suggest you go see her soon.
[B]Everlina[/B] I have not been with her for a while, I think she looks great. She was great in the room and remembered me from our rooms many months ago. Nice girl. Seems pretty sharp. Our conversation included "what's up with Trump and North Korea?" and the French election.
[B]Sedonia[/B] 3 yrs at the club and I can't believe this was my first time with her. Of all the visits I only noticed her last time a month ago. Tatiana actually told me her name as we were talking about whom I should try next. Apparently she also went and told Sedonia that I maybe interested and she should come talk to me. I had a good time with her.
[B]Anita[/B] ROM, long brunette, beautiful green eyes? Nice perky be, normally sits at the single sofa facing the bar by the locker. I rejected her a month ago when she was somewhat new. She was very sweet then and I knew I would have a nice time with her. She is very soft spoken, super sweet, just my type of girl. I had a great time with her. She will also leave Sharks in the summer. Highly recommend.
Girls I saw: Roxana, Carolina, Jessica, Steffi, Lavinia, Cosmina (went to ROM on Monday), Anja, Diana (I could be wrong as it was from a distance), Dina, Madalina, and many others.
The romanian Annabelle (long dark hair) and the sisters Elif and Amalia are back in town.
And yes, Diana is back too.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2030970][B]Evita[/B] as you can imagine, she was very busy over the weekend. If you are one of her fans, I'd suggest you go see her soon.[/QUOTE]Why the recommendation to see Evita sooner rather than later when she is overwhelmed with Japanese clients during golden week?
Is she going somewhere afterwards?
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2030970]Some even said they would need to start paying tax. Sadly, my top three girls will no longer be at Sharks after July first, for sure. I think we will see a lot less girls at the club come July 1st as some of them do not want to register and have it on a record that they are a "worker". I guess my recommendation is to go before July 1st.[/QUOTE]1. New law July 1st change nothing about taxation for the girls. The Sharks girls pay the daily tax payment according Duesseldorf modell, nothing will change on this.
2. There's a transitional arrangment for girls registration till Januar 1st 2018. So the girls can at least work till end of this year in Germany without register.
3. Only BBBJ ban comes already on July 1st.
At Craiova, I have a few questions / responses:
#1. Only one girl mentioned about the tax so you are probably right. But if LR is considered Dusseldorf model, I know of one girl who actually have to go to the tax office. I remember well because I saw her pictures wearing a suit jacket and I asked what she was doing. I don't remember any girls saying they have to pay tax at Sharks. I could be wrong.
#2. Not many girls (that I talked to) know about this transitional period, if any. Can you help provide the source or link so that I can forward to them?
#3. This has been discussed to death here on ISG so I won't bother.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2031028]At Craiova, I have a few questions / responses:
#1. Only one girl mentioned about the tax so you are probably right. But if LR is considered Dusseldorf model, I know of one girl who actually have to go to the tax office. I remember well because I saw her pictures wearing a suit jacket and I asked what she was doing. I don't remember any girls saying they have to pay tax at Sharks. I could be wrong.
#2. Not many girls (that I talked to) know about this transitional period, if any. Can you help provide the source or link so that I can forward to them?
#3. This has been discussed to death here on ISG so I won't bother.[/QUOTE]The Sharks girl like at all other clubs pay the tax every day together with entry fee. Entry fee for guys 65 euro, for girls it includes the tax payment so they pay 90 euro, in case they sleep in club they pay even more. But in this business everything is possible and some girls don't know that they pay already every day tax and they think entry fee for girls is 90 euro. LOL
BTW ofc it's possible to avoid the Duesseldorf tax modell than the girl needs a tax registeration and must fill out an anual german tax declaration, I know not even one Romanian girl doing this in this way, all girls I know use the Duesseldorf modell and thats what I also recommend to my favs.
To your second point. The clubs so far avoid the new law subject bc they fear that like the plague, that mean the girls aren't informed so far by the clubs.
In Hessen, girls pay 25 for tax, included in their entry, and 20 to sleep.
In NRW, no tax included in girls entry, and Romanian girls don t want to be registered there.
Romanian girls must be registered to work in Switzerland.
[QUOTE=TrebleMachine;2030719]Sharks is definitely on the list but I was wondering if one of my favorite girls is still working there: it's Angelika from Latvia, the milfy baltic lady.
Yes, I have a sweet tooth for big asses / thick hips / big naturals. Any other girl fitting the description you would recommend?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jon75;2030902]I've got pretty much the same tastes as you. Do you know which club is best to find those curvy MILF beauties? There is this very tall curvy Lithuanian blonde at Sharks, I forgot her name but she really turned me on when I first saw her and her service was top notch.[/QUOTE]Hear hear, men after my own heart. Treble a girl I'd recommend is Jessica, although fantastic as they are they're not natural I'm told.
Jon her name is Karina I believe. These three comprised my favorites from the puny 4 visits I've had.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2030980]The romanian Annabelle (long dark hair) and the sisters Elif and Amalia are back in town.
And yes, Diana is back too.[/QUOTE]Good to hear the sisters are back in sharks. Too bad I won't be able to make my trip to Germany until September.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2031022]1. New law July 1st change nothing about taxation for the girls. The Sharks girls pay the daily tax payment according Duesseldorf modell, nothing will change on this.
2. There's a transitional arrangment for girls registration till Januar 1st 2018. So the girls can at least work till end of this year in Germany without register.
3. Only BBBJ ban comes already on July 1st.[/QUOTE]You are both right, but some clubs are starting to inform the girls and some want to comply the new rules ASAP, the 25 tax per day will no longer be pay to the club as today but directly to the tax office on a early basis. For sure some girls are leaving right now the FKK scene.
Just a minor point: The 25 EUR the girls are paying at Sharks or other clubs are nothing but a down payment on their tax, it is not THE tax.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2031158]Just a minor point: The 25 EUR the girls are paying at Sharks or other clubs are nothing but a down payment on their tax, it is not THE tax.
HB.[/QUOTE]Theoretical you are right with this but in 100% practice over the last maybe 20 years it is the tax bc. No Romanian girl I have known makes a German tax declaration and the German tax authorities have accepted this therefore I would call it an established right.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2031158]Just a minor point: The 25 EUR the girls are paying at Sharks or other clubs are nothing but a down payment on their tax, it is not THE tax.
HB.[/QUOTE]So how does Sharks calculate THE tax then? Does it depend on the number of rooms a particular girl does?
Edit: I overlooked Caiova's post. So it's a bit like a flat rate Quellensteuer, that can be subtracted again if/when a girl does a proper German tax return?
Harry. Correct. Once they become registered in accordance with the new law, it is more likely the authorities will require a tax return. Can't see that fitting in with the lifestyle of many workers.
Craiova. You are basically right but sometimes after raids in NRW girls have, as Badin reports, been summoned to the tax office to negotiate their unpaid tax. One girl (a wily high earner) told me the tax people had been very very reasonable.As Badin says, it doesn't seem to happen in Hessen
[QUOTE=Jon75;2030902]I've got pretty much the same tastes as you. Do you know which club is best to find those curvy MILF beauties? There is this very tall curvy Lithuanian blonde at Sharks, I forgot her name but she really turned me on when I first saw her and her service was top notch. I might go there again next week to see her. I actually knew a Latvian escort in London back in the day which matches your description pretty much, she left the UK a few years ago but told me she was going to Germany every now and then.[/QUOTE]Can't really help you since unfortunately I'm not a regular in the FKK scene.
I travel to Germany once or twice every year and just try to make the best of it.
Since you're visiting sooner than me please report back with your findings of girls with the right junk in all the right places [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PCkvCPvDXk[/URL].
[QUOTE=Jon75;2030902] There is this very tall curvy Lithuanian blonde at Sharks, I forgot her name but she really turned me on when I first saw her and her service was top notch. I might go there again next week to see her.[/QUOTE]That's MILF (already 40 yo but looks younger) Karina. She's still at Sharks and top notch service but out of my age and dress size range.
Other recommendation on this curvy MILF type girls at Sharks is Cz Hannah (maybe 35 yo and very curvy). Also at least same top notch service like Karina and Hannah is able to give a real DT.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2031193]Harry. Correct. Once they become registered in accordance with the new law, it is more likely the authorities will require a tax return. Can't see that fitting in with the lifestyle of many workers.
Craiova. You are basically right but sometimes after raids in NRW girls have, as Badin reports, been summoned to the tax office to negotiate their unpaid tax. One girl (a wily high earner) told me the tax people had been very very reasonable.As Badin says, it doesn't seem to happen in Hessen[/QUOTE]Well, I'm sure the flat tax in clubs was a solution to WG earnings being cash, and it cannot be tracked unless significant transfers show electronically. Since for club girls, requiring tax payment as part of entry is unavoidable.
If the flat tax is paid as part of entry by girls, how do the authorities figure out the unpaid tax?
Who knows what girls makes tax declarations? And if so, the declarations to be reliable as earnings are in cash.
For Germans, they can have another job, and work part time not declare beyond the flat rate, as it's cash.
With the new law, how will the taxing change? How will they take account of the cash earnings per girl?
In the NRW, they have girls sign in a list, and write down start and end time of sessions. In Hessen I haven't seen that. Is this how they figures it out?
[QUOTE=Craiova;2031213]That's MILF (already 40 yo but looks younger) Karina. She's still at Sharks and top notch service but out of my age and dress size range.
Other recommendation on this curvy MILF type girls at Sharks is Cz Hannah (maybe 35 yo and very curvy). Also at least same top notch service like Karina and Hannah is able to give a real DT.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your help to the curvy seeking cause.
For all cock-bloggers here: tax is more sexy than sex?
Please don't forget: the state robs this money from you and then some lousy actors, sometimes called politicians, distribute that money again according to their narrow state of consciousness and political party guidelines. Telling you that they do the best for their country, and themselves of course.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2031238]
If the flat tax is paid as part of entry by girls, how do the authorities figure out the unpaid tax?
[/QUOTE]They probably don't, that's the whole joke.
The way I understand it, basically those E25 are an advance that the club will pay to the tax office for a particular girl, and then that particular girl will have to complete a German tax return where they will subtract E25 from the total as it's already paid.
But if a girl does is not registered in Germany, does not have a car registered in Germany, no telephone, no rent, no health insurance, nothing in Germany, then of course it becomes next to impossible for the German tax office to find out where this girl is and how much she has earned.
This is the whole point that I was trying to get at when people were lobbying for a pay rise to E60. It's a joke what these girls pay in taxes when compared to the ordinary person (and her clients!) in the street, and in addition to me being being very libertarian (= in favor of low taxes & small government), I also think that these girls have very little to complain about when it comes to giving a decent level of service for E50/ half hour.
Of course this will all change after 1 July, so IMHO I think the consequences of this new law will be really far reaching for the level of service, prices and also the number of girls that will want to work for 2 pimps simultaneously. Sorry everybody for off topic, maybe we can have this moved to General Info?
P.S. Health insurance coverage they can get in Romania (and probably a lot cheaper than in Germany), complimented by an EU-wide travel insurance also costs very little to cover them when in Germany. This should work fine, as long as they don't stay for more than 45 days abroad.
[QUOTE=Nick The G;2031260]For all cock-bloggers here: tax is more sexy than sex?
Please don't forget: the state robs this money from you and then some lousy actors, sometimes called politicians, distribute that money again according to their narrow state of consciousness and political party guidelines. Telling you that they do the best for their country, and themselves of course.[/QUOTE]Yup, so with the next government probably being a bunch of socialists teamed up with the Green Khmer tree-huggers, just imagine how they can (and will!) have a field day when it comes to regulating and taxing this whole industry to destruction. Remember, the multicultural socialist Utopia is expensive, and with a few million extra mouths to feed, the future German (and European) government will need every cent it can squeeze out of the citizens.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2030980]The romanian Annabelle (long dark hair) and the sisters Elif and Amalia are back in town.
And yes, Diana is back too.[/QUOTE]Great to hear. I hope the sisters stick around until the last week of June, when I'll be there.
Although I'd be willing to bet that the most popular girls will all converge on the big clubs that week, as a sort of last hurrah before the law change. But that's the optimist in me.
MCP.
Not sure how much truth there is to this statement on the Zurich thread, but will point it out.
One punter claims in Globe, where the rate is 120 per half, he doesn't have chances with some girls because the girls go for long rooms (2 hrs stated) of known clients. Globe is known for DFK as requirement and if this is true, it's a way to maximize their earnings. It's the nature of the work, and depends on the environment.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2031088]In Hessen, girls pay 25 for tax, included in their entry, and 20 to sleep.
In NRW, no tax included in girls entry, and Romanian girls don t want to be registered there.
[/QUOTE]So, is it taken account by sign in sheets? Craiova mentioned Dusseldorf model.
How is Sharks, Dusseldorf model?
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2031273]Not sure how much truth there is to this statement on the Zurich thread, but will point it out.
One punter claims in Globe, where the rate is 120 per half, he doesn't have chances with some girls because the girls go for long rooms (2 hrs stated) of known clients. Globe is known for DFK as requirement and if this is true, it's a way to maximize their earnings. It's the nature of the work, and depends on the environment.[/QUOTE]No girl will go with him for 120, because Globe rate is 140/30 mn.
I had 150 € rooms with Megan, now I will have 280 € rooms.
Minimum monthly Swiss salary is 4200 €.
Don't believe all what is written, or said in brothels.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2031213]That's MILF (already 40 yo but looks younger) Karina. She's still at Sharks and top notch service but out of my age and dress size range.
Other recommendation on this curvy MILF type girls at Sharks is Cz Hannah (maybe 35 yo and very curvy). Also at least same top notch service like Karina and Hannah is able to give a real DT.[/QUOTE]Where can I find Hannah and Karina? And which days can I find them?
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2031265]
Yup, so with the next government probably being a bunch of socialists teamed up with the Green Khmer tree-huggers, just imagine how they can (and will!) have a field day [/QUOTE]I appreciate your points. I just want to make sure that we are slandering the right folks.
The political parties we should be maligning are the CDU and their sister party, the CSU. They form a coalition with the SPD on most issues I understand. So, the CDU / CSU together with the SPD are the ones who are pretty much responsible for the July 1st law.
The Green Party however (also socialists like all major political parties in Germany) was the party who was staunchly against the July 1st law. In other words, the Green Party (that is, the ones who are most identifiable as the so-called "Tree Huggers") are the good guys. Granted, the main political parties have now all become more-or-less green in the environmental sense, which has taken away representation from the Green Party, making the Green Party a distinct minority in the German parliament. In other words, the success of the Green Party in advancing their environmental-friendly agenda has been their downfall. Now that they've "won" the environmental fight and everyone in Germany is now a tree-hugger, the Green Party has lost its previous attraction and has waned in popularity.
In any case, when anyone feels the need to lash out against someone for the July 1st law, please feel free to express your frustrations against the CDU / CSU (but not the Green Party). It probably doesn't make sense to lash out against "socialists" as being responsible for this law, because the people who opposed it (the Green Party) are socialists (ok, the people that favored the law are socialists too, but that is only because all the major political parties in Germany are socialists).
Pardon the brief diversion from the Sharks topic, but I just wanted to make sure that none of us were insulting the "good-guys" in this whole debacle.
Those more familiar with German politics, please feel free to add in or correct me as appropriate (but probably in the Chat and Lounge thread instead of here in the Sharks thread).
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2031283]So, is it taken account by sign in sheets? Craiova mentioned Dusseldorf model.
How is Sharks, Dusseldorf model?[/QUOTE]NRW Romanian girls don t pay tax. I was at LR on a Friday night when girls were controlled and given a number and a paper written in German. My girl doesn't speak German but said she doesn't want to pay tax. In EU, You can t be prosecuted without understanding why, same like my driving licence, good point for Romanian girls in NRW when tax is not included in entry.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2031273]Not sure how much truth there is to this statement on the Zurich thread, but will point it out.
One punter claims in Globe, where the rate is 120 per half, he doesn't have chances with some girls because the girls go for long rooms (2 hrs stated) of known clients. Globe is known for DFK as requirement and if this is true, it's a way to maximize their earnings. It's the nature of the work, and depends on the environment.[/QUOTE]In any market the rich folks will outbid the Cheap Charlies. Not just limited to Switzerland.
[QUOTE=Akibono;2031316]In any market the rich folks will outbid the Cheap Charlies. Not just limited to Switzerland.[/QUOTE]I don't think it's legitimate at all to refer to anybody who chooses to bow out of the Swiss market as a "cheap Charlie". As I noted in a recent post I made in one of the Switzerland threads, Zurich is currently the third most expensive city in the world! And I believe that Geneva is in the top ten. I have chosen not to participate in the Swiss market based 100% on the price of poon (and most everything else), but I don't think too many people here are prepared to call me "cheap".
My standard session during my last mongering incursion into Germany ran roughly from 200 to 250 euros per session (hour-long sessions with anal and / or CIM). For most mongers, those reading this forum anyway, that's on the high end of expenditure. Now, I could afford to monger in Switzerland, but in order to maintain overall cost control and budgetary discipline, I would need to cut my number of session down to about half of what I would do in Germany.
In other words practice what I preach, which is that if you can't afford it, then fuck less! LOLOLOL! I'm not willing to do that at this point, so for now "European Headquarters" remain in The Fatherland. But, I'm certainly no "cheap Charlie" because I choose not to monger in Switzerland due to the cost of doing business there. I can get what I need from somewhere else for half the price, so I think my decision just makes me a good business-minded monger hehe! We'll see what happens after July 1st. That will certainly impact my calculus, but I'm not sure just yet how. May need to relocate to Austria, or pull out of Europe altogether and "invest" more money in South America. We shall see!
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[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2031177]So how does Sharks calculate THE tax then? Does it depend on the number of rooms a particular girl does?
Edit: I overlooked Caiova's post. So it's a bit like a flat rate Quellensteuer, that can be subtracted again if/when a girl does a proper German tax return?[/QUOTE]Correct. Sharks doesn't calculate THE tax, this is done by the tax authorities when (or better if) the girl makes her tax declaration. So if she was at the club 200 times that year she made a down payment on her income tax of 5000 EUR. If she has to pay 7000 EUR tax (just an example), the 5000 EUR will be deducted from that because she already paid the tax via the club. Of course she has to get the receipt for the 25 EUR / day from the club.
HB.
Does anyone know if Nikki (blonde) is from CZ or RO?
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2031363]Correct. Sharks doesn't calculate THE tax, this is done by the tax authorities when (or better if) the girl makes her tax declaration. So if she was at the club 200 times that year she made a down payment on her income tax of 5000 EUR. If she has to pay 7000 EUR tax (just an example), the 5000 EUR will be deducted from that because she already paid the tax via the club. Of course she has to get the receipt for the 25 EUR / day from the club.
HB.[/QUOTE]Interesting. In US, and I assume in many other countries, employers withhold taxes from employee paychecks every month and pay to the tax agency on behalf of the employee. However, the employer is including the employee real name, social security number, etc to match the payment with the correct ID of the employee. At year end, employee files a return, and makes any additional tax payment if needed, or sometimes collects a refund if already paid too much. Our famous April 15.
We hear in FKKs, the relationship is not of an employer-employee but that of a marketplace facilitator-freelance worker. But even that's ok, even a marketplace exchange can collect a tax. But then they have to submit all such amounts to the tax authorities and make sure they match the girl's name and ID. If not, on whose behalf are they paying? And do they even pay? When you mention the receipt, is the implication that if the girl failed to obtain a receipt, the club then might not submit the tax payment to the tax authorities? Is that legal? They did collect a tax payment on behalf of the girl but then fail to report that expense and submit. Or do they simply submit "we had 100 girls, here is 2500 E tax on their behalf, but we have no idea about the exact names and ID of those girls".
(Perhaps this is not a income tax but more of a sales tax type thing we have in the US - go to Costco, buy some goods, Costco collects sales tax from every customer, but there is no ID check, and Costco simply submits the sales tax proceeds to the government, almost as a pass through.)
When girls walk in, is there a bit more ID check of those girls as compared to guys? I never paid attention. We just pay cash, walk in. If the club is collecting a tax payment on behalf of the girl, there is an onus on the club to ID the girl to make sure tax payment is properly submitted, no?!
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2031381]Interesting. In US, and I assume in many other countries, employers withhold taxes from employee paychecks every month [/QUOTE]Same here.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2031381]We hear in FKKs, the relationship is not of an employer-employee but that of a marketplace facilitator-freelance worker. But even that's ok, even a marketplace exchange can collect a tax. But then they have to submit all such amounts to the tax authorities and make sure they match the girl's name and ID. If not, on whose behalf are they paying? And do they even pay? When you mention the receipt, is the implication that if the girl failed to obtain a receipt, the club then might not submit the tax payment to the tax authorities? Is that legal? T[/QUOTE]Good question. Next question. LOL.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2031381]When girls walk in, is there a bit more ID check of those girls as compared to guys? [/QUOTE]There is, clubs have to check if the girls are allowed to work in Germany. And they take copies of their passports / IDs.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2031363]Correct. Sharks doesn't calculate THE tax, this is done by the tax authorities when (or better if) the girl makes her tax declaration. So if she was at the club 200 times that year she made a down payment on her income tax of 5000 EUR. If she has to pay 7000 EUR tax (just an example), the 5000 EUR will be deducted from that because she already paid the tax via the club. Of course she has to get the receipt for the 25 EUR / day from the club.
HB.[/QUOTE]Interesting and surprising. If I may ask: isn't it a choice for the girls? To pay tax and benefit of the retirement or not pay tax at all? Because I once asked a girl how much left she has out of a thousand euro, surprisingly she answered me a thousand euro. I was worried that it could be dangerous for her to leave the club with so much money. She answered me money stays at Sharks. The only thing that decreased her income was the transfer of money to her country. Which surprised me as well because the free circulation of goods and people are supposed to be guaranteed by European Union.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2031381]Interesting. In US, and I assume in many other countries, employers withhold taxes from employee paychecks every month and pay to the tax agency on behalf of the employee[/QUOTE]Same in Europe, but you're forgetting that these people usually are on a fixed contract.
These girls working in prostitution are all freelancers and deal with cash only, hence it would be impossible to withhold anything. That's why a cashless / digital economy would probably have such a large impact, and that's why the tax department is so eager to get their hands on any money these girls make.
Think about it this way: would a stip club in the US withhold taxes from the strippers that work there? I don't think so, but correct me if I'm wrong.
In Switzerland you pay 240 per hour, but the girls only keep 50%.
And the club gets the rest.
My understanding was that US strip clubs are organized similar to German FKKs in that girls pay to work there, and they don't get paid, because they are technically considered contractors and not employees. And I don't think US strip clubs are withholding any tax fromstripper wages, not even as Sharks is supposedly doing with its 25 E as local experts suggested here. Anyway, that's what I was told, but I have no real knowledge about this.
As a matter of law, employers are required to withhold payroll tax from employees, unless the relationship is structured as contractors, I think. In some service industries like restaurants, where many staff members get paid mostly in tips, employers do have a challenge in terms of estimating how much the employee made. I think they are supposed to survey them and make an estimate, but I am sure there is a lot of under reporting. Of course in strip clubs, this underrpeorting must be much worse (as in, strippers likely pay very little tax even if some of them make six figures annually).
That said, this is hardly the only profession which is cash based. Food trucks, small businesses, individual service providers, (drug dealers? Probably many more that I am forgetting. I am glad it is not my problem but IRS' or whoever is the tax collection agency. And at least, the US is now mostly cashless but Germany being so cash-centric in their daily transactions, I wonder if tax evasion is rampant or no worse than in other countries.
I would not link the fact that strippers or hookers are underpaying taxes to a discussion of price levels for their services. The latter is strictly a supply and demand issue. Linking the two implies some sort of morality, as in "they deserve to get less because they pay no tax"; deserve has nothing to do with this. Secondly, not all strippers and hookers are cheating on taxes, and no reason some have to suffer for the sins of others; if Neymar cheats on taxes, will fans demand a cut in Ozil's salary? Finally, tax evasion happens at all levels and by many many people. It is the job of tax agency guys to find them, collect and then penalize the evaders. Just like we pay cops to police, we pay the tax agency employees to collect. Somehow linking that issue to a fee we pay for sex in a club makes little sense.
And I would say the same thing about linking how much girls supposedly make to what the price level should be. I never said 60E with mandatory kissing is a good idea "because girls are making too little or too much". Absurdly, people dragged this "oh many of them make 8 grand a month, and why should we reward them more"?! Messi and Ronaldo make too much and clubs and fans would pay them even more if they scored more goals. Some girls make one grand a month net of entry fee and some make ten or twenty grand; who knows and who cares. My proposal was based on "DFK is currently not mandated, so there is too much ambiguity in terms of what is included and not, and so many complaints involve expecting it but not getting it" If it is mandated today at 50E, few girls would go for it, and perhaps it might be more acceptable to both men and girls mandated at 60E. Simply put, I think there would be no or little supply for mandatory DFK at 50E but at 60 there *might* be.
[QUOTE=PokerWiesBaden;2031440]In Switzerland you pay 240 per hour, but the girls only keep 50%.
And the club gets the rest.[/QUOTE]Aphrodisia Zurich city is 500 CHF / h, Bumsalp is 290 .
Globe is 280 , History 198 , Swiss Dietikon 178/ h.
At Globe, girls pay for room each time they have a room, keep rest of money, and pay entry. History, Swiss and Palace Luzern are small brothers.
To work in Swiss brothels, girls have to be registered and Polizei know about their job. Swiss Polizei is much worse than German.
After Katalina, Isabella, Aurelia, Jessika silicon ex World, Megan seems happy about her new business and don t seem to have problem with staff, but she is high level for body care and is able to have little woman behavior. When Mainhattan high black socks little girl, but was only 19 yo, could become a Swiss star. Always easier when get good advice, just happy for her, she build faster her future life.
[QUOTE=PokerWiesBaden;2031440]In Switzerland you pay 240 per hour, but the girls only keep 50%.
And the club gets the rest.[/QUOTE]Almost the same system with Asian sauna club.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2031355]I don't think it's legitimate at all to refer to anybody who chooses to bow out of the Swiss market as a "cheap Charlie". As I noted in a recent post I made in one of the Switzerland threads, Zurich is currently the third most expensive city in the world! And I believe that Geneva is in the top ten. I have chosen not to participate in the Swiss market based 100% on the price of poon (and most everything else), but I don't think too many people here are prepared to call me "cheap".
My standard session during my last mongering incursion into Germany ran roughly from 200 to 250 euros per session (hour-long sessions with anal and / or CIM). For most mongers, those reading this forum anyway, that's on the high end of expenditure. Now, I could afford to monger in Switzerland, but in order to maintain overall cost control and budgetary discipline, I would need to cut my number of session down to about half of what I would do in Germany.
In other words practice what I preach, which is that if you can't afford it, then fuck less! LOLOLOL! I'm not willing to do that at this point, so for now "European Headquarters" remain in The Fatherland. But, I'm certainly no "cheap Charlie" because I choose not to monger in Switzerland due to the cost of doing business there. I can get what I need from somewhere else for half the price, so I think my decision just makes me a good business-minded monger hehe! We'll see what happens after July 1st. That will certainly impact my calculus, but I'm not sure just yet how. May need to relocate to Austria, or pull out of Europe altogether and "invest" more money in South America. We shall see!
[POST]2029871[/POST][/QUOTE]You don't read very well.
Hi guys,
I am going to Sharks.
I am a English-speaking tourist-looking nerd, and I have very little experience in FKK. (never been to Sharks).
I guess I would be targeted for upselling or even scam?
I would like to know if you have any tips on how to avoid these things.
How to spot a girl who may give a bad service. Any warning signs.
And in general, how to find the top service girls among so many (I guess?) girls. I would assume that the one who approach you are the one who lack business, and are mediocre girl at best?
Is DFK without paying extras something I should not expect?
At least, I want to have a relaxing day without feeling being tricked. That would make me feel bad. A few memorable good sessions will be the icing on the cake.
[QUOTE=Akibono;2031518]You don't read very well.[/QUOTE]I had a point I wanted to make, and I made it.
[QUOTE=PokerWiesBaden;2031440]In Switzerland you pay 240 per hour, but the girls only keep 50%.
And the club gets the rest.[/QUOTE]That is not true for clubs like globe, bumsalp etc.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2031595]That is not true for clubs like globe, bumsalp etc.
HB.[/QUOTE]50% is for escorts working for agencies which manage bookings, hotel or department, flights.
Gents. I will be visiting Sharks in mid / late May after more than 6 months, wondering if some of my favorites are still there?
Kati (Ro): I think she's still there?
Helli (Ro): From the forum, seems she's gone?
Patricia (Mol): Seems she's gone?
Kimba (Phil): Seems she's gone. Any other Asian girls for GFE with fingering?
[QUOTE=NF4591;2031695]Gents. I will be visiting Sharks in mid / late May after more than 6 months, wondering if some of my favorites are still there?
Kati (Ro): I think she's still there?
Helli (Ro): From the forum, seems she's gone?
Patricia (Mol): Seems she's gone?
Kimba (Phil): Seems she's gone. Any other Asian girls for GFE with fingering?[/QUOTE]Sweet blond, now silicon Patricia still there, with her little voice. Enjoy her.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2031598]50% is for escorts working for agencies which manage bookings, hotel or department, flights.[/QUOTE]This is the Germany FKK club section. 50% is for apartments in Germany also. But not for clubs, not in Germany, Austria, Switzerland.
HB.
[QUOTE=NF4591;2031695]
Kimba (Phil): Seems she's gone. Any other Asian girls for GFE with fingering?[/QUOTE]She is at ROM.
HB.
Why are people so interested in how much the gals make and how much they pay in taxes if any at all 😞.
Also all the discussion about salary increase blablabla bx of inflation. Bottom line is that the gals still make more than they could dream of in Romania. Its simple supply and demand.
Some gals do read the forum which will lead them to blv that they are underpaid hence the 1 HR with DFK 😡.
Please more reports on gals instead 👌.
[QUOTE=KY694;2031525]
I am going to Sharks.
I am a English-speaking tourist-looking nerd, and I have very little experience in FKK. (never been to Sharks).
I guess I would be targeted for upselling or even scam?
I would like to know if you have any tips on how to avoid these things.
[/QUOTE]My first tip for avoiding sharks would be not to go to a club called Sharks. Why not try some of the nicer smaller clubs in NRW?
If you are stuck in Darmstadt and have to go to Sharks, my main advice would be: don't go with the first girl who grabs onto you. Or the first ten. Try not to be in too horny a mood, so you can resist the onslaught. Take the master-strategist Odysseus as your model:
"Odysseus was curious as to what the Sirens sang to him, and so, on the advice of Circe, he had all of his sailors plug their ears with beeswax and tie him to the mast. He ordered his men to leave him tied tightly to the mast, no matter how much he would beg. ".
After they untie you, try chatting to some of the girls. The main thing is that you set the pace, you make the approach, and you only pick a girl if she seems sincere.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2031812]"Odysseus was curious as to what the Sirens sang to him, and so, on the advice of Circe, he had all of his sailors plug their ears with beeswax and tie him to the mast. He ordered his men to leave him tied tightly to the mast, no matter how much he would beg. "..[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure that will cost you extra.
[QUOTE=KY694;2031525]Hi guys,
I am going to Sharks.
I am a English-speaking tourist-looking nerd, and I have very little experience in FKK. (never been to Sharks).
I guess I would be targeted for upselling or even scam?
I would like to know if you have any tips on how to avoid these things.
How to spot a girl who may give a bad service. Any warning signs.
And in general, how to find the top service girls among so many (I guess?) girls. I would assume that the one who approach you are the one who lack business, and are mediocre girl at best?
Is DFK without paying extras something I should not expect?
At least, I want to have a relaxing day without feeling being tricked. That would make me feel bad. A few memorable good sessions will be the icing on the cake.[/QUOTE]First of all when you visit a club like Shark it is to have fun and to enjoy. It is important that you are ready to invest some money. Except you are lucky don t expect too much for 50 euro 30 minutes. Most of the girls will be very friendly and high service oriented if you tell her that you want to stay at least 1 hour with her. After in the room don t hesitate to tell her that she is beautiful, clean, soft like with a normal girlfriend, ask her what she likes. If you just apply this simply advises for sure you will get a great day there.
KY. A few thoughts.Polygamous gives good advice.
1. Take your time to decide and know what sort of session you want (romantic, assertive, teasing, you passive, active and so on). It's a good idea to get there early before it gets busy and stay all day.
2. If possible sit in chairs near entrance near lockers: you can see how the lads and lasses returning from rooms interact. Look for happy or unhappy body language.
3 Say Hi and a few words to any girls you fancy, and see what your instinct is when they react. It's ok to approach and talk for a few minutes and not go to room immediately. Obviously don't do this to 50 girls or you'll be seen as a time waster.
4 If DFK is important to you then check before you go to room. Do NOT be conned into paying extra.
5 Girls at Sharks who approach can be good or bad sessions. Any girl who approaches and then gives you a list of services for an inflated price, just tell her you know the prices and aren't stupid. Be prepared for an annoyed look in response.
6 Remember it's your time and money.
7. Get the feel of the place, act like you are relaxed and know all about FKK.
8. Busy girls are often the best service providers, so get in quick if you want one of them.
Patricia, mentioned recently, is a bright, sweet, and honest girl. But not knowing your tastes I won't try to list any more.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2031812]don't go with the first girl who grabs onto you. Or the first ten. [/QUOTE]Could be a huge mistake if Mia, Mandy, Sandra or another top girl is among the first ten.
HB.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2031833]KY. A few thoughts.Polygamous gives good advice.
[/QUOTE]It's important to note:
Poly + gamous could be translated (from the modern Greek) as either:
A) Many weddings.
B) Many Fucks.
I'll take answer "B"!
Also, as his earlier post did refer to an episode of the Homeric Odyssey, one must not forget that whilst the Son of Laertes was indeed tempted by the Sirens song, he remained throughout his 20+ years ordeal loyal and faithful to Penelope and it is debatable as to whether he fucked Calypso and / or Circe. Simply put: Odysseus would not have done well in FKK Sharks.
[QUOTE=Ortos;2031853]It's important to note:
Poly + gamous could be translated (from the modern Greek) as either:
B) Many Fucks.
[/QUOTE]Can you please cite a reference where this wishful thinking / delusion is supported?
There are now several girls at Sharks who speak greek (e.g. Vana, Anja, Aphrodite, Brigitte). For sure they are willing to teach you on that subject.
Maybe what you meant is the greek word "kamaki" (καμάκι)
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2031851]Could be a huge mistake if Mia, Mandy, Sandra or another top girl is among the first ten.
HB.[/QUOTE]Do the top girls approach guys at all?
And if someone were to, ohhh I don't know. Be curating a personal list of names, based on the reports this forum. Is he able to inquire about a particular girl's presence, or whether they'd be in later that day, while checking in at reception?
Or do you have to wander around and investigate, collecting names and starting as many conversations as possible?
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2031851]Could be a huge mistake if Mia, Mandy, Sandra or another top girl is among the first ten.
HB.[/QUOTE]Thought Mandy was overrated in your view? LOL.
Is Sandra back? I haven't seen her name mentioned for a while. Didn't see her in March.
Breadman - haha funny line🙂 However, he did say tied by "men"
I believe Sandra is back. I spoke to a fellow American and he said he took a girl name Sandra from GER. I wanted to see who she is as I have heard of her name but the guy couldn't find her later.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2031857]?
greek (e.g. Vana, Anja, Aphrodite, Brigitte). For sure they are willing to teach you on that subject.
[/QUOTE]I am willing to learn, if there is a student discount.
I think Megan, Anca and Martina does is very well some do it passionately but it all boils down to you are doing her in ash and its not normal.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2031833]2. If possible sit in chairs near entrance near lockers.[/QUOTE]Not possible on those evenings when Janine and her fan club are present.
There was one occasion though earlier this year when I found her fan club absent and therefore took the opportunity to have my B-session with her almost exactly one year after my first one. As before, it was a satisfactory session, that I extended to an hour. I reported last year that she could keep a decent conversation in English going. This year she was more fluent and actually cracked some jokes in English!
I found her quite lovable except that she would not engage in much kissing, just pecks allowed. Her body is really a sight to behold up-close: it is flawless and so enticing. But no C-session until I see a report that she allows passionate kissing.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2031873]Snip. Is Sandra back? I haven't seen her name mentioned for a while. Didn't see her in March. Snip.[/QUOTE]She returned from her university studies April 26th. I had the usual great hour session with her on the 27th.
She was my only session as I did not find the rest of the line-up appealing.
[QUOTE=KY694;2031525]
How to spot a girl who may give a bad service. Any warning signs.
And in general, how to find the top service girls among so many (I guess?) girls. I would assume that the one who approach you are the one who lack business, and are mediocre girl at best?[/QUOTE]Not at all. This is a bit complicated and to some degree random.
Sometimes it is the opposite that is the case. Girls with a kid to support (she won't allways tell you of this) is also more likely to approach you. It all just depends on how eager they are to make money. The optics and / or top famous girls doesn't allways have to hunt for new clients. But also some of the girls who does hunt for new clients can be either new to a club, or lacking in business in a way that they sometimes offer better service than the queens. Rumors of top girls are also at least half the time in my own experiences completely ymmv. So look in their eyes and spot honesty (ethics) and / or chemistry.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2031857]Can you please cite a reference where this wishful thinking / delusion is supported?
There are now several girls at Sharks who speak greek (e.g. Vana, Anja, Aphrodite, Brigitte). For sure they are willing to teach you on that subject.
Maybe what you meant is the greek word "kamaki" (καμάκι)[/QUOTE]Hi Nick,
Gamous can be the accusative plural case for "Gamos" which in main context means "wedding", but in Greek slang, = Fuck.
Can you please cite the reference where the German word "Klugscheisser" means "SmartAss?" No there is no reference other than you know how to speak the language, ja? I guess this German word encompasses people who post things when they really don't know what their talking about. Perhaps you have some personal insight on that? :)
The Greek word Kamaki? No I do not mean "Spear-gun for fish," which is used colloquially for a man who flirts non-stop with any girl he sees.
You list a few girls at Sharks who supposedly speak Greek: the only one of these I've encountered is Aphrodite, who I'm pretty sure is Romanian, and knows very little, if any, actual Greek. She certainly has no idea what her "name" Aphrodite means, for example.
But tell me more about Vana, Anja and Brigitte. Are they not Romanian too? I don't know, never met them.
[QUOTE=MrCrankyPants;2031866]Do the top girls approach guys at all?[/QUOTE]Sure they do. But top girls only approach top guys.
HB.
[QUOTE=KY694;2031525]Hi guys,
I am going to Sharks.
I am a English-speaking tourist-looking nerd, and I have very little experience in FKK. (never been to Sharks).
I guess I would be targeted for upselling or even scam?
I would like to know if you have any tips on how to avoid these things.
How to spot a girl who may give a bad service. Any warning signs.
And in general, how to find the top service girls among so many (I guess?) girls. I would assume that the one who approach you are the one who lack business, and are mediocre girl at best?
Is DFK without paying extras something I should not expect?
At least, I want to have a relaxing day without feeling being tricked. That would make me feel bad. A few memorable good sessions will be the icing on the cake.[/QUOTE]First, don't stress and breathe deeply before going.
I m not German, I don t speak German, I go now not more than once every 3 months, and I never experienced upselling at Sharks, even on first room with a new girl. Sharks is not Palace or Oase. Many girls kiss at Sharks without upselling. Better to speak with the girl about what You expect, if she knows the word extra, then next one, play again.
At least, German blond Sandra and Mandy staying around restaurant, blond now silicon, sweet Patricia. Mold, blond Gloria. Ro, blond Latvian Marina at the bar close to restaurant, and I m sure others like Martina, I don t try, are honest and nice GF behavior. So, enjoy.
My only problem now at Sharks is to find a beauty who makes me dream, like Megan for longer than 1 year every week end, and I wish her the best business at Globe, just my thanks to her, for stars in my eyes. I was unlucky to miss blond Emma. De and model Samanta. De at Sharks, but I got them at LR and GT.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2031999]Sure they do. But top girls only approach top guys.
HB.[/QUOTE]No wonder I don't get approached as its written "50 e only" on my forehead 😂.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2031999]Sure they do. But top girls only approach top guys.
HB.[/QUOTE]That s why new top Sharks girls don't come to me who slept again in my igloo last night. A poor beggar, after my German model at GT, impressive beauty, I thought it would be difficult and I looked at her for more than 1 hour, so she stopped to smile, but as soon we started to speak, everything was easy and fluent. For rabbit fucking, I could have this real model kissing and sensitive for only 50 , but she seemed surprised I preferred to play with her eyes, ears and body for 1 hour. A model only for 100 to taste her deeply everywhere. Even bad business, but land of dreams.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2031999]Sure they do. But top girls only approach top guys.
HB.[/QUOTE]Yes for sure, and if you are not a top guy like me you just need to show some bank notes it is always working great for me, may be the girls are more looking for cash than for top guys.
CrankyPants. It's fine to ask after a girl. If you are lucky and you ask an acquaintance of the girl you are after they will often tell the girl you are after her. But in Sharks it doesn't work so well give the huge numbers of girl and the turnover. Reception will not help, for the same reason.
Top girls may or may not approach, depending on their work tactics. If they are busy you won't even see them. But sometimes the opposite is true: I have seen Mandy sitting alone for hours.
"Top" girls. Remember one man's pleasure is short man's poison. There have been very few workers about whom there is a real consensus that they are " top" girls. Better option is to go by your instinct, using a list of names of workers to avoid those who are known to be sharky
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2031999]Sure they do. But top girls only approach top guys.
HB.[/QUOTE]That explains why years ago I used to be mobbed but now I just get a dribble of the bottom (heavy) girls.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2031999]Sure they do. But top girls only approach top guys.
HB.[/QUOTE]I'll be sure to wear my ascot, so they can tell from a distance.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2032083]CrankyPants. It's fine to ask after a girl. If you are lucky and you ask an acquaintance of the girl you are after they will often tell the girl you are after her. But in Sharks it doesn't work so well give the huge numbers of girl and the turnover. Reception will not help, for the same reason.
Top girls may or may not approach, depending on their work tactics. If they are busy you won't even see them. But sometimes the opposite is true: I have seen Mandy sitting alone for hours.
"Top" girls. Remember one man's pleasure is short man's poison. There have been very few workers about whom there is a real consensus that they are " top" girls. Better option is to go by your instinct, using a list of names of workers to avoid those who are known to be sharky[/QUOTE]Great advice, as always Optimist.
So I guess, "Thanks for the robe and sandals, can you please direct me to the sisters Amalia and Enif" wouldn't fly at reception, huh? Ha.
Or to simply cruise down to the area underneath the aquarium and just start shaking hands and collecting names?
LOL it's all much ado about nothing, I imagine. I'm sure I'll do fine. Just trying to get a sense of the custom so I don't embarrass myself too much. Cheers.
MCP.
After a shower and in a towel, most men look the same. Studs Or nerds.
Many girls are new to the club as well and don't know which guy is new or not. And the Sharky girls are always trying to shark any guy, new or experinced. If you act and look confident, you won't be targeted any more than the next guy.
How to spot the girl who might shark you, who will give good service, who will DFK. These are eternal questions men have been pondering about FKKs for ages.
My only advice is to go with plenty of energy, libido and cash and set aside all these negative feelings and fears. Every single flight I make to Germany for an FKK visit, I have anticipation building up as the day comes close. Those 4,5 days I spend in the club I are the happiest days I have till my next visit. Worrying that a girl here or there might not give you the best service, or that you might not obtain the most out of your 50 only serves to bring your mood down.
[QUOTE=KY694;2031525]Hi guys,
I am going to Sharks.
I am a English-speaking tourist-looking nerd, and I have very little experience in FKK. (never been to Sharks).
I guess I would be targeted for upselling or even scam?
I would like to know if you have any tips on how to avoid these things.
How to spot a girl who may give a bad service. Any warning signs.
And in general, how to find the top service girls among so many (I guess?) girls. I would assume that the one who approach you are the one who lack business, and are mediocre girl at best?
Is DFK without paying extras something I should not expect?
At least, I want to have a relaxing day without feeling being tricked. That would make me feel bad. A few memorable good sessions will be the icing on the cake.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2032146]After a shower and in a towel, most men look the same. Studs Or nerds.
Many girls are new to the club as well and don't know which guy is new or not. And the Sharky girls are always trying to shark any guy, new or experinced. If you act and look confident, you won't be targeted any more than the next guy.
How to spot the girl who might shark you, who will give good service, who will DFK. These are eternal questions men have been pondering about FKKs for ages.
My only advice is to go with plenty of energy, libido and cash and set aside all these negative feelings and fears. Every single flight I make to Germany for an FKK visit, I have anticipation building up as the day comes close. Those 4,5 days I spend in the club I are the happiest days I have till my next visit. Worrying that a girl here or there might not give you the best service, or that you might not obtain the most out of your 50 only serves to bring your mood down.[/QUOTE]You don't need to spend 50 euros, you should try with more less stress and far better service. Parity USD to Euro should also be favorable for you.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2032146]
Many girls are new to the club as well and don't know which guy is new or not..[/QUOTE]Sometimes it is obvious. FKK is an open format where customers and WGs can all see each other. New WG could observe how the customer interacts with known regulars, other WGs, and the reception and staff. Is he looking lost or asking a lot of questions? If a customer is not getting approached, the WG could deduce that he is a regular. Some WGs are known to automatically hunt the newbies. If the "Egyptian" approaches a customer, she'd know that he is probably a first-timer. Conversely, if she saw a busy, popular, top-earning WG giving a lot of attention to a customer, she'd assume that he is her regular, and thus not new.
East Asian newbie is literally fresh meat in the shark tank. They wouldn't make it five steps before being surrounded.
Perhaps even some new girls can figure out which guys are new or not. It is an imprecise guess. If they sit and analyze a guy for a length of time, perhaps their guessing rate improves. On a busy Friday night, they are better off hitting as many men as they can for sessions, instead of psycho-analyzing each customer.
Every time I go into Sharks, even on the 5th day of a 5-day trip, some girl or other will come and ask me if that's my first time in FKK. Sometimes, it is their pickup line.
Anyway, my point was that if a guy looks confident and sure of himself, he doesn't have much to be concerned. In FKK or anywhere else in life. Most often, it is the diffidence of the guy that gives himself away. And beyond that, I also don't get these so called newbie questions along the lines of "will I be attacked"; despite the name, it is not a shark tank, and you are not dead meat. These are young naked girls, and at a minimum you WILL get a suck and fuck them for a 50 E, and to me that is something to look forward to, not to dread with trepidation.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2032211]Perhaps even some new girls can figure out which guys are new or not. It is an imprecise guess. If they sit and analyze a guy for a length of time, perhaps their guessing rate improves. On a busy Friday night, they are better off hitting as many men as they can for sessions, instead of psycho-analyzing each customer.
Every time I go into Sharks, even on the 5th day of a 5-day trip, some girl or other will come and ask me if that's my first time in FKK. Sometimes, it is their pickup line.
Anyway, my point was that if a guy looks confident and sure of himself, he doesn't have much to be concerned. In FKK or anywhere else in life. Most often, it is the diffidence of the guy that gives himself away. And beyond that, I also don't get these so called newbie questions along the lines of "will I be attacked"; despite the name, it is not a shark tank, and you are not dead meat. These are young naked girls, and at a minimum you WILL get a suck and fuck them for a 50 E, and to me that is something to look forward to, not to dread with trepidation.[/QUOTE]Jnpr30 you are really a poet! I am wondering how you behave with a normal girlfriend?
[QUOTE=MrCrankyPants;2032111]I'll be sure to wear my ascot, so they can tell from a distance.[/QUOTE]A fake rolex too? Maybe 3 watches per arm?
[QUOTE=Mr CrankyPants;2032121]
Or to simply cruise down to the area underneath the aquarium and just start shaking hands and collecting names?[/QUOTE]
Lol? And here I was thinking it was just me when the only place I've ever been yelled at in an fkk for 'collecting names' was in the couch group below that fish tank. Lol!
Thus leaving me afraid of that area every time I am at Sharks now...
It is funny sometimes when a new girl asks you if it is your first time in the club... I can see it can be a conversation starter, but there is allways the fear of her abusing that knowledge tru upsells also... so if that happens to me, I usually ask another girl I know well at the club if I have been there before, as if I had forgotten... "I cannot recall for sure, but have we been here before ****? I lost focus. All I see is ass and tits. Like at a candy shop" The responses can be a bit hilarious from both the girls.
[QUOTE=MrCrankyPants;2031866]Do the top girls approach guys at all?[/QUOTE]I was approached by Mandy and Mia. Hanna started talking to me when I was waiting for the drink by her favorite stool at the bar. I am not sure whether Yvette or Catalina rated as the top girls or not but they approached me too. Patricia (Mo) approached me but she wasn't top rated that time. Few other top girls who are not here anymore initiated first contact. I remember Vivien, Helli, Rubi, bitchy Karina and for sure few more.
So I would not agree with the suggestion to avoid first ten girls who approach you.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2032228]A fake rolex too? Maybe 3 watches per arm?[/QUOTE]As I remember my genuine Breitling attracted Russian girls in Palace about 10 years ago.
Thanks everyone for the replies and suggestions.
There are a lot of practical advices, and it does not sound as intimidating as I thought it would be.
And I collected a few names which were mentioned repeatedly too (Mandy, Mia.).
I guess I will have a nice time.
I am East Asian BTW, a few of you mentioned that East Asians are being targeted somehow.
I don't have money tho. 50 E is what I am willing to offer.
Are there any clubs around Offenburg to Mannheim region where the girls are known for being friendly (if such things exist).
[QUOTE=KY694;2031525]Hi guys,
I am going to Sharks.
I am a English-speaking tourist-looking nerd, and I have very little experience in FKK. (never been to Sharks).
I guess I would be targeted for upselling or even scam?
I would like to know if you have any tips on how to avoid these things.
How to spot a girl who may give a bad service. Any warning signs.
And in general, how to find the top service girls among so many (I guess?) girls. I would assume that the one who approach you are the one who lack business, and are mediocre girl at best?
Is DFK without paying extras something I should not expect?
At least, I want to have a relaxing day without feeling being tricked. That would make me feel bad. A few memorable good sessions will be the icing on the cake.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2032211]Sometimes, it is their pickup line.
[/QUOTE]It [I]is[/I] their pickup line, similar to a guy walking up to a girl in a bar asking "Hi. So? You come here often?" 🙄.
Isn't it funny how women in the mainstream media always complain about the men as 'being not creative or romantic enough' when it comes to pickup lines, but when the roles are reversed and the ladies get the chance to prove their supposedly superior emotional creativity, they use more or less the exact same lame lines? 😂.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2032146]After a shower and in a towel, most men look the same. Studs Or nerds.
[/QUOTE]Sorry Jnp, but not what I see for some look and even most important, for behavior and manners. If a girl say to me this, then I think I will leave the room and answer better for her to go with other guys, not interesting for me.
[QUOTE=KY694;2032401]Thanks everyone for the replies and suggestions.
There are a lot of practical advices, and it does not sound as intimidating as I thought it would be.
And I collected a few names which were mentioned repeatedly too (Mandy, Mia.).
I guess I will have a nice time.
I am East Asian BTW, a few of you mentioned that East Asians are being targeted somehow.
I don't have money tho. 50 E is what I am willing to offer.
Are there any clubs around Offenburg to Mannheim region where the girls are known for being friendly (if such things exist).[/QUOTE]My advice: don't care about girls names you read, go to girls who attract you, each one his tastes for look and services. As Asian, you will be hunted as easy meat. If you enjoy short cute blond, German Mandy is honest and not upselling. Same for Sandra. De, a bit taller blond with very white skin. 2 angels for sweet behavior. MILF blond Latvian Marina and blond Patricia. Mold are also sweet and honest. A bit reddish hair, Ester. Ro is also friendly.
Speak with girls to feel how they behave, and if they start the room upselling, don't touch them and leave the room after few seconds, not to have to lose your money.
Not far from Mainhem, close to legendary Hockenheim ring, you have FKK First, with mostly German regulars visiting, not fucking tourists like Sharks or Oase or Palace. FKK First is FKK Atlanta Hanau brother. Some great girls at Atlanta, East Frankfurt.
Prestige is not so far from Mannheim if you're willing to drive and maybe more beginner friendly than Sharks.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2032610]Prestige is not so far from Mannheim if you're willing to drive and maybe more beginner friendly than Sharks.[/QUOTE]No more top girls like EMA. Ro on tour on end of 2013/ beginning of 2014, or Mikhaela ex Barbie Ingrid Sharks on September 2014 , or Alessia. Ro the body on 2013 , but true, girls are friendly and GFE at Prestige Neunkirchen. Many moved to Paradise Sarrebrucken, like French Marie. Also French Stephanie at Sharks. Not the prettiest French women.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2032471]Sorry Jnp, but not what I see for some look and even most important, for behavior and manners. If a girl say to me this, then I think I will leave the room and answer better for her to go with other guys, not interesting for me.[/QUOTE]Fully agree with you Sirioja, I start to get really upset by this kind of guys who are playing the rule of the strong man and are even not able to take a shower fully naked, and when they eat they take the fork with their right hand and are able to manage both fork and knife. I know enough nice girls, if a new one likes this kind of guys it is better she go with them.
Hello,
This is my first time going to FKK. So I will be in Frankfurt for 1 week and I am thinking of going to Sharks but I am afraid that I will get scammed because I am a New be. I read that you can Get a room for 30 min and then the woman make you pay for 1 Hour or for extras and that women maybe not friendly and approach you in a pushy way. How can I avoid that I want to pay 50 euro for each Session. Should I negotiate with the girl beforehand and tell her I will pay 50 or 60. I am a little shy too so I have fear that they will use that against me. This will be my first time and I don't it to be bad. I want to have a GFE and get in a friendly relaxing atmosphere. Is that possible in sharks? What is your advice on What to do for first time?
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2031260]For all cock-bloggers here: tax is more sexy than sex?
Please don't forget: the state robs this money from you and then some lousy actors, sometimes called politicians, distribute that money again according to their narrow state of consciousness and political party guidelines. Telling you that they do the best for their country, and themselves of course.[/QUOTE]No brothels allowed in France, Maison closes were closed at the end of second World war, prostitutes clients are now prosecuted, but even, after being the land of freedom, fortunately we will not become the land of shame, we have same great actors studios politicians in France. If you see our new president after his victory, face for his victory talk tonight, when you know about his party when he won on first round, great actor. Wait and experience his efficiency. French workers will pay his salary, car, flat, travels.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2032297]
So I would not agree with the suggestion to avoid first ten girls who approach you.[/QUOTE]The point is that 1st timers have zero experience of what type of girls in FKK, so they will rush for the 1st girl to seduce him. And it will be 90% bad experience, there is 10% chance though to be great.
So I guess. best tactic is to sit and relax for 1-2 hours if you have time, see the girls and speak with them and see as many as you wish before going to the room. Thats in the case for 1st timers. Though the plan usually go by the wind because you will like to go to the room when the girls seduce you if you are new.
I was there in the afternoon, and turned out there were more men than women, that I did not get approached a lot. I did got stopped a lot when I was walking around. But in any cases, when I refused, they all politely leave me alone, I am happy about that.
I approached some girls. And I took the first one I approached (maybe a mistake.).
She was very sweet outside, but once we got into the room, she became a bit bitchy and cold (not too bad, but also not good as pre-room chemistry).
The thing that kinda disappoint me the most, is that everyone asked for 100 E for DFK. I have not found a single girl who allows that for 50 E.
Not that I believe the girls don't have the right to make their rules, it is just too different from what I expected.
And one girl, after I refused 100 E for DFK, even claimed that I would never find anyone who offer 50 E for DFK, and she was right, leading me to believe that there are some kinda internal agreements between girls to set the norm in the club.
I have 2 30-minutes sessions, and I was allowed to touch their lips very lightly.
And eventually I paid one time 100 E for the DFK, and she kissed me with the tip of her tongue! Not anything deeper!
(quite certain that it is not my oral hygiene).
Altho I have to say, beside the issue of DFK, the two later girls remained friendly and sweet, and that is very important to me.
So I would not say I had a bad day, and I got to see a lot of cute girls. The experience was great with some disappointment.
[QUOTE=KY694;2032682] beside the issue of DFK,[/QUOTE]Huge issue for me. DFK is a MUST for me to session and I'm not getting suckered like a tourist to pay a minimum 100 euro for DFK.
Can you please clarify if they were saying minimum 1 hour for 100 euro for DFK or was DFK a staight out 50 euro upsell?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2032718]Huge issue for me. DFK is a MUST for me to session and I'm not getting suckered like a tourist to pay a minimum 100 euro for DFK.
Can you please clarify if they were saying minimum 1 hour for 100 euro for DFK or was DFK a staight out 50 euro upsell?[/QUOTE]There is no simple answer how this works for all girls.
Some request 50 Euro extra for DFK. Some include DFK into 1 HR sessions. YMMV.
I have been in situation when I agreed 1 HR session just for DFK but kissing didn't last long. To avoid this now I say that I will stay for one hour with DFK if this will not be boring and DFK will be real. If session becomes boring with minor indications of DFK, I can end it within ½ HR and pay 50 Euro only. Girl cannot complain because I set the condition. If girl gets mad, I don't care. Anyway I will newer book her again and she cannot complain at the beüro because she has no reason for that.
Do I feel bad in that situation? Absolutely not. If she does not perform as she should all agreements void.
DFK is crucial for me too. Sometimes I cannot get erection without DFK. BBBJ does not make me hot as DFK does.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2032718]Huge issue for me. DFK is a MUST for me to session and I'm not getting suckered like a tourist to pay a minimum 100 euro for DFK.
Can you please clarify if they were saying minimum 1 hour for 100 euro for DFK or was DFK a staight out 50 euro upsell?[/QUOTE]Like at Oase since years, some Sharks girls say now to kiss only for 100 € room, 1 hour or CIM 30 mn, but you will get most of time only baby kiss with most of them, except Brenda big tits, maybe Jellis. Fluent kisser don't ask any extra for kissing. Fortunately, there are still some at Sharks, like Mandy, Marina. Lat, blond Patricia was before silicon.
Just have to find real GFE, better to avoid girls staying in group.
But Sharks became a touristic club, like Oase, Palace, GT, but at least 1 rare beauty at GT, and kissing without asking any extra.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2032718]Huge issue for me. DFK is a MUST for me to session and I'm not getting suckered like a tourist to pay a minimum 100 euro for DFK.
Can you please clarify if they were saying minimum 1 hour for 100 euro for DFK or was DFK a staight out 50 euro upsell?[/QUOTE]100 E 1 hour with DFK.
No one proposed 50 E as an extra to me.
Jymondor's strategy is not bad, it encourage the girl to give good service to secure the 1 HR session.
But I still end up paying 100 E for one girl.
I know good service is not only number of shots, but please allow me simplify the issue for now: I am someone who can do 4 shots in 6 hours, but I cannot consistently do 2 shots in one hour. Plus I get tired, so 1 hour session ended up with 40 minutes of actions, the rest is just boring massage and chit chatting (if any, if a girl signal to end the session after 40 min, and I would get fed up with the bitchiness and compile). So if I prepare 250 E for the day, I will only get 2 sessions 2 shots, compared to potentially 5 sessions with 5 shots if it is 50 E each. Sounds like a big difference for me.
The girls in Sharks seem quite united on this front. I tend to think that that will be the deal, there are little we can do to change it.
My question is if there are other clubs (even smaller one) where girls do not charge 100 E for DFK, I would love to know. (I am around Karlsruhe to Mannheim).
[QUOTE=JohnnyLewis;2032644]Hello,
This is my first time going to FKK. So I will be in Frankfurt for 1 week and I am thinking of going to Sharks but I am afraid that I will get scammed because I am a New be. I read that you can Get a room for 30 min and then the woman make you pay for 1 Hour or for extras and that women maybe not friendly and approach you in a pushy way. How can I avoid that I want to pay 50 euro for each Session. Should I negotiate with the girl beforehand and tell her I will pay 50 or 60. I am a little shy too so I have fear that they will use that against me. This will be my first time and I don't it to be bad. I want to have a GFE and get in a friendly relaxing atmosphere. Is that possible in sharks? What is your advice on What to do for first time?[/QUOTE]I am also new to this and have no solutions for you.
I tried to ask for 60 E for DFK 30 min, but I was consistently rejected.
It probably depends on the girls, so it does not hurt for you to try again.
I tried not to waste girls' time talking to me or touching me if I am not interested in them. (getting free touch deliberately does sound like a dick move to me).
And I give a firm but polite rejection but propose maybe later. Girls are mostly friendly and leave me alone with a smile.
I happened to ask a very similar question to yours a few days back, try reading a few pages of this forum, there were a few good suggestions given.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2032579]My advice: don't care about girls names you read, go to girls who attract you, each one his tastes for look and services. As Asian, you will be hunted as easy meat. If you enjoy short cute blond, German Mandy is honest and not upselling. Same for Sandra. De, a bit taller blond with very white skin. 2 angels for sweet behavior. MILF blond Latvian Marina and blond Patricia. Mold are also sweet and honest. A bit reddish hair, Ester. Ro is also friendly.
Speak with girls to feel how they behave, and if they start the room upselling, don't touch them and leave the room after few seconds, not to have to lose your money.
Not far from Mainhem, close to legendary Hockenheim ring, you have FKK First, with mostly German regulars visiting, not fucking tourists like Sharks or Oase or Palace. FKK First is FKK Atlanta Hanau brother. Some great girls at Atlanta, East Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]Sirioja,
You are right.
Turned out there are so many girls, none of the one I talked to have their names mentioned here in the forum.
The one that are mentioned here are probably constantly occupied and I have never talked to them. (as a beginner I also don't recognize their faces).
Girls usually sell me CIM, on boobs, extend to 1 HR in the middle of the session, so that I could not leave LOL. But luckily they remain friendly after I reject them.
There were more men than girls when I was there, I might have seen some of the girls you described but they were always with some guys.
Thanks so much for the description!
I dunno if I got targeted as easy meat, but I burnt 300 E (with entrance) make sure I have good oral hygiene and still did not get any satisfying DFK.
The 100 E 1 HR full service rule is very annoying.
I think it will always be difficult to get DFK in Sharks unless you get lots of 100 E to burn. I don't have that money, next time I will try point.
[QUOTE=JohnnyLewis;2032644]Hello,
This is my first time going to FKK. So I will be in Frankfurt for 1 week and I am thinking of going to Sharks but I am afraid that I will get scammed because I am a New be. I read that you can Get a room for 30 min and then the woman make you pay for 1 Hour or for extras and that women maybe not friendly and approach you in a pushy way. How can I avoid that I want to pay 50 euro for each Session. Should I negotiate with the girl beforehand and tell her I will pay 50 or 60. I am a little shy too so I have fear that they will use that against me. This will be my first time and I don't it to be bad. I want to have a GFE and get in a friendly relaxing atmosphere. Is that possible in sharks? What is your advice on What to do for first time?[/QUOTE]Relax, eat good, drink good. That s what do German locals. On Wednesday, entry is 50, like on Sunday before 2 pm, but maybe easier to get better services from some girls on empty days like Monday, Tuesday and Thursday afternoon, when they have to find business to at least pay entry. Talk to girls about what you like, before going to room. When girls start upselling, next one, play again. There are some not upselling GFE girls remaining at Sharks, even some Romanians might have made their own rate about kissing, but how many really fluently kiss with passion? Next could be BBBJ? Mostly with hand, as CIM can t anymore be sold as official extra after 1st July, lack of fast business to come, more work for small vagina.
Since last September, I went only with 3 new girls on first time: Mersi. Hu, Mandy. De and Gloria. Ro, they didnt know me, they didn't upsell for anything, it was only my choice to stay 1 hour with all of them, just because I enjoyed with them, even not high level enough to repeat rounds and stay for 2 or 3 hours, like my 4 h15,4 rounds with Siberian tornado Katea Samya, fire for our first room, for only 350. Second and Fourth were only 2 h30 and 2 h, but fire again from Siberia. Amazing sporty and hot small girl.
In some clubs, Romanian girls are really my best for passionate kissing. I remember Ema. Ro Prestige Neunkirchen kissing for hours, Madi World with so fresh breathe, my LR medusa stuck on my face all along the room and at lockers, Lorena at History taking your breathe even at the bar after room. As says Jy, when a girl kiss you like this, then You experience GF illusion, until lockers, but at least she worth You pay for such girl. Some Romanian WGs and also Tatiana. Ru now Ilona at GT, are even more passionate kisser than girlfriends in real life, even not same feeling of course.
[QUOTE=JohnnyLewis;2032644]Hello,
This is my first time going to FKK. So I will be in Frankfurt for 1 week and I am thinking of going to Sharks but I am afraid that I will get scammed because I am a New be. I read that you can Get a room for 30 min and then the woman make you pay for 1 Hour or for extras and that women maybe not friendly and approach you in a pushy way. How can I avoid that I want to pay 50 euro for each Session. Should I negotiate with the girl beforehand and tell her I will pay 50 or 60. I am a little shy too so I have fear that they will use that against me. This will be my first time and I don't it to be bad. I want to have a GFE and get in a friendly relaxing atmosphere. Is that possible in sharks? What is your advice on What to do for first time?[/QUOTE]If you are in Frankfurt and have a car read the most recent reports in World thread and the most recent ones here, then consider which club will suit you: to me that sounds like World, provided you don't mind a line up one third the size of Sharks, and for some whales.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2032730]There is no simple answer how this works for all girls.
Some request 50 Euro extra for DFK. Some include DFK into 1 HR sessions. YMMV.
I have been in situation when I agreed 1 HR session just for DFK but kissing didn't last long. To avoid this now I say that I will stay for one hour with DFK if this will not be boring and DFK will be real. If session becomes boring with minor indications of DFK, I can end it within HR and pay 50 Euro only. Girl cannot complain because I set the condition. If girl gets mad, I don't care. Anyway I will newer book her again and she cannot complain at the bero because she has no reason for that.
Do I feel bad in that situation? Absolutely not. If she does not perform as she should all agreements void.
DFK is crucial for me too. Sometimes I cannot get erection without DFK. BBBJ does not make me hot as DFK does.[/QUOTE]DFK is a different issue from CIM, COB, BBBJ, DATY. The latter four are easier for the girl to do and are generated from the brain so to speak. DFK has a bigger input from the heart. It is difficult for a girl to do genuine DFK to a john whom she does not like. To get guaranteed genuine DFK you must become the provider's regular so that she warms up to you and you can get it even in a 50 euro session.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2032872]DFK is a different issue from CIM, COB, BBBJ, DATY. The latter four are easier for the girl to do and are generated from the brain so to speak. DFK has a bigger input from the heart. It is difficult for a girl to do genuine DFK to a john whom she does not like. To get guaranteed genuine DFK you must become the provider's regular so that she warms up to you and you can get it even in a 50 euro session.[/QUOTE]Either from the heart or just better actor's play.
I would agree that DFK is easier to get at the second session rather than first. The problem is that I rarely repeat with the girls who don't kiss. However there are some exceptions. Some girls kiss at the second session some don't.
Lately the more and more difficult to find a girl who allows DIGITS. Old time it was much more available.
[QUOTE=KY694;2032807]Sirioja,
You are right.
Turned out there are so many girls, none of the one I talked to have their names mentioned here in the forum.
The one that are mentioned here are probably constantly occupied and I have never talked to them. (as a beginner I also don't recognize their faces).
Girls usually sell me CIM, on boobs, extend to 1 HR in the middle of the session, so that I could not leave LOL. But luckily they remain friendly after I reject them.
There were more men than girls when I was there, I might have seen some of the girls you described but they were always with some guys..[/QUOTE]Sunday may not be easiest day for a newbie. Maybe would be easier on Monday, Tuesday and Thursday when Sharks is quite empty from clients, but about 50 girls looking for business. There are still not upselling girls remaining at Sharks. 2 blond German, small Mandy avec Sandra are really honest and good girls who try to please You. They stay not far from restaurant. Also some Romanians like smiling Madalina with cat eyes, also Martina. I also think girls don't behave in same way with all of us, I never experienced upselling at Sharks. I had only 1 very bad room with Nina. Ro who was with Evita on April 2015. I don't mean Evita is as bad as was Nina who was prettier and classier for my tastes, tall slim white skin long black hair, really pretty but was not able for anything in room, the only girl I didn t wait when I left without fucking her baby size vagina. I just miss new beauties now, compare to 2015 until Summer 2016. Alice / Kate, Rena, Karin, Ilka, Roberta even not a top beauty but what real sensual tornado Romanian woman, where are You? I know for Kate and Megan now. I wish to Ilka to keep safe health.
FKK Point and Pirates, 200 meters far near Bruchsal, are small clubs with around 15 girls. FKK First is bigger. Avoid Piccolo at Lancelot Offenburg, Monte Carlo Baden Baden and Palast Freiburg, to save your money for enjoyable sex.
Dear all,
I've never been to any FKK before, just with escort in France right now.
I am planning to visit sharks at the end of May, but I want to know if there is discrimination from girls as I am not caucasien, I am Asian in fact.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Hey guys,
Do you know where I can find the most beautiful BBW in Germany? I'm also willing to travel elsewhere. I like tall strong legs big bum beauties.
Thanks.
Part of me wishes it would be restricted like BBBJ just so I wouldn't have to read all this crap about guys needing it, paying extra for it etc. It's just one more "off the subject" we have to weed through lately. You want to talk about dfk, how to avoid sharks and the like, take it to the lounge.
[QUOTE=KY694;2032807]Sirioja,
You are right.
Turned out there are so many girls, none of the one I talked to have their names mentioned here in the forum.
The one that are mentioned here are probably constantly occupied and I have never talked to them. (as a beginner I also don't recognize their faces).
Girls usually sell me CIM, on boobs, extend to 1 HR in the middle of the session, so that I could not leave LOL. But luckily they remain friendly after I reject them.
There were more men than girls when I was there, I might have seen some of the girls you described but they were always with some guys.
Thanks so much for the description!
I dunno if I got targeted as easy meat, but I burnt 300 E (with entrance) make sure I have good oral hygiene and still did not get any satisfying DFK.
The 100 E 1 HR full service rule is very annoying.
I think it will always be difficult to get DFK in Sharks unless you get lots of 100 E to burn. I don't have that money, next time I will try point.[/QUOTE]Maybe also try the others clubs around, expand your horizon to expand your experiences and the girls. Based on what I read, I recommend you try out world if in Hesse. Do a Fri or Sat for a first time visit. Further down in Dierdorf, Finca should work as well.
Try different clubs, environments. See if your experiences shows what clubs aligns your interests. Maybe a smaller club with not so much girls, or a less approach, or clubs that services that upsells are rare to none. Or clubs DFK is more consistently on offer.
Also, try different days of the week. More relaxed days, girls are more relaxed, less of a hurry, with not much guys lined up for gals.
More experiences will help guide you better. Get to know guys know gals in the clubs. Ask about gals services.
[QUOTE=KY694;2032807]Sirioja,
You are right.
Turned out there are so many girls, none of the one I talked to have their names mentioned here in the forum.
The one that are mentioned here are probably constantly occupied and I have never talked to them. (as a beginner I also don't recognize their faces).
Girls usually sell me CIM, on boobs, extend to 1 HR in the middle of the session, so that I could not leave LOL. But luckily they remain friendly after I reject them.
There were more men than girls when I was there, I might have seen some of the girls you described but they were always with some guys.
Thanks so much for the description!
I dunno if I got targeted as easy meat, but I burnt 300 E (with entrance) make sure I have good oral hygiene and still did not get any satisfying DFK.
The 100 E 1 HR full service rule is very annoying.
I think it will always be difficult to get DFK in Sharks unless you get lots of 100 E to burn. I don't have that money, next time I will try point.[/QUOTE]Sorry but if you have no cash to spend, I am afraid you will not get great service in any big FKK, personally I was yesterday in one of the big FKK and spend 6 hours with one of the girl I really like, what to say just extremely great time for me and may be for her. One of my friend who is a famous lawyer is telling if you are paying peanuts you just get monkeys.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2031833]
Patricia, mentioned recently, is a bright, sweet, and honest girl. [/QUOTE]Optimist, is she the Patricia from Mold. With enhanced boobs?
[QUOTE=SexInCity;2033150]Optimist, is she the Patricia from Mold. With enhanced boobs?[/QUOTE]Sounds like her.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2032943]Alice / Kate, Rena, Karin, Ilka, [/QUOTE]Wow Siri you just named 3 of the 4 girls who are the best I have ever seen at Sharks, Kate, Karin, and Ilka. I don't know Rena. I'm assuming Ilka is gone now as well.
[QUOTE=SexInCity;2033150]Optimist, is she the Patricia from Mold. With enhanced boobs?[/QUOTE]Blond with little voice Patricia now silicon, is still at Sharks.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2033178]Wow Siri you just named 3 of the 4 girls who are the best I have ever seen at Sharks, Kate, Karin, and Ilka. I don't know Rena. I'm assuming Ilka is gone now as well.[/QUOTE]Ilka left in July. For our first time, I enjoyed her classy GF behavior in the garden, at night under the moon. A real honeymoon for 3 week ends, before she left. She didn't like Sharks. I read she was seen at Aphrodisia Zurich where 280/30 mn and 500/1 h. If she is there, I just wish her not to party.
Karin left for Easter 2016, said to return on mid May, but never saw her again.
Kate keep on touring sometimes at Globe, with my Isabella, Aurelia, Jessika silicon ex World, and now Megan who seems fine about her start in Zurich business. Megan didn't run away from staff. Kate tour at Globe since I think 2013. When girls are able to get good business there, 140/30 mn, they stay for better money than in Germany. Megan will also return home very often, between tours and this is very important for her, so I'm just happy for her.
I preferred not to name Rena. Ro, but she was really pretty brunette for me.
At this time, on 2015, until Summer 2016, Sharks had less girls, but some real beauties, best casting in Germany for my eyes. Now, more girls but less beauties. Times changed, like at World, or even Oase, below 2014 casting for both.
But can still find high level girls in Germany, in other clubs. Last week end, I returned to GT since 29 December, and I got a sweet German model on Friday and returned on Saturday.
NRW is less expensive, without upselling, and higher level for my tastes than Hessen, since last Summer, That s why, when I was weekly in Hessen before, I don t go often now. I only pay for dreamed beauties who don t know the word extra.
[QUOTE=OlivierParis;2032955]Dear all,
I've never been to any FKK before, just with escort in France right now.
I am planning to visit sharks at the end of May, but I want to know if there is discrimination from girls as I am not caucasien, I am Asian in fact.
Thank you.
Best regards,[/QUOTE]No discrimination just be ready to be strongly targeted by many girls who will try to take you to the room just because they know that Asian guys are usually shy, also they are paying well and their dick is average small, easy money for them.
[QUOTE=OlivierParis;2032955]Dear all,
I've never been to any FKK before, just with escort in France right now.
I am planning to visit sharks at the end of May, but I want to know if there is discrimination from girls as I am not caucasien, I am Asian in fact.
Thank you.
Best regards,[/QUOTE]There is no discrimination if you have money.
[QUOTE=SexInCity;2033150]Optimist, is she the Patricia from Mold. With enhanced boobs?[/QUOTE]Yes. (I have to add some words here as forum won't accept report as short as "yes".
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2033178]Wow Siri you just named 3 of the 4 girls who are the best I have ever seen at Sharks, Kate, Karin, and Ilka. I don't know Rena. I'm assuming Ilka is gone now as well.[/QUOTE]Is your fourth still at Sharks?
Didn't see for my last visits Agnes. Pol = a real woman, no more top GFE Aylice. Bu, no Domenika. Pol.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2033190]That s why, when I was weekly in Hessen before, I don t go often now. I only pay for dreamed beauties who don t know the word extra.[/QUOTE]Any FKK that makes a big deal of extras is a failing system. Especially the ridiculous idea of calling kissing an "extra". It's like booking a flight and having to pay extra to walk up the steps of the plane.
[QUOTE=OlivierParis;2032955]Dear all,
I've never been to any FKK before, just with escort in France right now.
I am planning to visit sharks at the end of May, but I want to know if there is discrimination from girls as I am not caucasien, I am Asian in fact.
Thank you.
Best regards,[/QUOTE]No, you will be fine.
Go fuck as many as you can.
[QUOTE=Nuupter;2033168]I was in Frankfurt from Thursday to Monday. Went oase thurs, Saturday and Sunday. Friday at sharks.
But in all the time from 11 am to 4 am I only went with one girl. More than 100 of girls but I don't find me attracted to them. Went with someone who is quite cute and did not know that we don't know each others name until after the session ended LOL, how that happened. She is Evita and at first she thinks I'm someone else in this forum. Heard many other things frois site. Only thing that saved my disappointment.[/QUOTE]Nice one. You bagged a superstar.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2033498]Any FKK that makes a big deal of extras is a failing system. Especially the ridiculous idea of calling kissing an "extra". It's like booking a flight and having to pay extra to walk up the steps of the plane.[/QUOTE]"The club" and "the girls" are two different things.
HB.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2033512]No, you will be fine.
Go fuck as many as you can.[/QUOTE]Sage-like advice. I plan to follow it.
Hell, that should be printed on a sign and hung over the entrance.
MCB.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2033498]Any FKK that makes a big deal of extras is a failing system. Especially the ridiculous idea of calling kissing an "extra". It's like booking a flight and having to pay extra to walk up the steps of the plane.[/QUOTE]Since my first visit on beginning of 2014, Sharks is the club which got the best improvements: garden, veranda, rooms, jacuzzis, among all clubs I visited, but on the other hand, new girls are mostly GND little girls, some hunting extras, even never been upsell, when I had so great girls at Sharks before, but they left. Sharks was the best casting for me on 2015 and beginning of 2016, but not anymore. Quantity is not quality.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2033498]Any FKK that makes a big deal of extras is a failing system. Especially the ridiculous idea of calling kissing an "extra". It's like booking a flight and having to pay extra to walk up the steps of the plane.[/QUOTE]Ryanair, considered charging for the use of the in flight toilet at one time, among other possible charges.
Ryanair already charge for ticket printing if you do not print them yourself too.
[QUOTE=OlivierParis;2032955]Dear all,
I've never been to any FKK before, just with escort in France right now.
I am planning to visit sharks at the end of May, but I want to know if there is discrimination from girls as I am not caucasien, I am Asian in fact.
Thank you.
Best regards,[/QUOTE]As Asian, you will be very welcome by girls at Sharks. Club rate is 50€/30 mn which should include foreplay: DFK, DATY, BBBJ, caresses. CIM is 50, A level is 100 when provided. Enjoy.
I read the forums and based on what I read decided to try Sharks. There is a messe in town so I opted against Palace for that reason.
I've been to Place before years ago so I know it's very easy to get to by train.
Sharks was a bit more confusing. If you are using the S-Bahn system it's tempting to go to Darmstadt Hbf. Nope- it's a very long walk or a taxi ride.
Your local ticker will work on RB trains so check DB website or a schedule and get to Darmstadt Nord. From there it is an easy 15 minute walk.
I went during the day, and arrived at just about 1 pm.
There were already about 30 girls there and half as many men.
Immediately a few more aggressive girls approached me. As someone with limited FKK experience that was very tempting but I wanted to explore the place and see what was on offer first.
The first one to approach me was a tall skinny blonde with the bee-sting lips and moderately enhanced breasts. She made lots of contact but turned her face away to ensure there was the tease of kissing but no actual contact.
I walked around to locate the sauna and see the jacuzzis upstairs.
As I came back down the stairs the same blonde made more offers to go to a room. I took her up on the offer.
I should have listened to.
My earlier feelings about her evasiveness with kissing. It was the same in the room. Everything was an upsell and she was putting out the bare minimum. It was very robotic. She cut the session short because both of us knew that her bare-minimum performance wasn't going to work for me. I cut her loose and took it as a lesson.
I went up to the jacuzzi and soaked for a bit.
Dani a tiny little cutie from Bulgaria came up and settled in next to me. She squatted down putting her little cute pussy on display and introduced herself. She flirted lightly and began running her nails over my hands and forearm as I sat in the bubbling water.
My German isn't great so I had a hard time understanding her over the bubbling water and her soft voice but she was already more sensual right there than my first failure had been even in the room.
I knelt so I could chat with her better and before long she had both arms around my neck. She brought her face in close. I thought she was going to be another tease, but before long she was kissing deeply like a long lost girlfriend. She continued to stroke lightly with the nails and kissed for a good long time.
As it heated up she asked (in German, she didn't ever switch to English. She may not speak any) if I would like her to join me in the jacuzzi or if I wanted to go somewhere with her.
I went with her to a room. She started with more of the energetic deep French kissing and pressed herself against me. We eventually laid down. It was clear that she was in no hurry at all. There was no way we'd finish in a "standard" 30 minutes but she was already worth an hour.
She straddled me as we kissed right on top of me uncovered. She straddled and was grinding on me, but she was positioned so that while it felt great she was in good control so it was unlikely I'd "accidentally" slip into her.
This went on a good long time; and then she worked her way down. This woman is very good with her mouth. Her OWO brought me close several times. She backed off at just the right times. We hadn't discussed it but I wanted the main event.
After an excellent BJ she again came up and straddled me. She was really working that grinding and it was feeling very good, still kissing enthusiastically.
I had to ask about the condom so I could slide into her. She quickly and expertly applied it and I was inside her without delay.
Normally it takes time and effort for me to build to a climax. She had done so much build up with the grinding kissing and oral that it didn't take long at all to finish with her on top.
She collected the condom and cleaned me off gently. She then cuddled down with me still like a long lost girlfriend. This was really a superior experience- no rush, excellent skills and service.
I'm actually the one that had to get things moving at the end so I could get cleaned up and catch my return train.
So, as many people have said before me, the coy teasing. No kissing until the room is a bad sign, I should have just said no.
The overwhelming kissing and affection before even mentioning the room carried right over into a superior experience.
€50. Entry. €50 first girl € 100 second girl.
Any of the Sharks' regulars have a list of girl who provide DFK with no upsell? Also, which girls demand 100 euro for DFK?
This would definitely be beneficial for us who don't hit Sharks often but will be there soon.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2033532]As Asian, you will be very welcome by girls at Sharks. Club rate is 50/30 mn which should include foreplay: DFK, DATY, BBBJ, caresses. CIM is 50, A level is 100 when provided. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Hello,
Many thanks for your reply.
What do you think about escort and FKK.
250 euro per hour in Paris is quite expensive, but if I add transport and hotel and entrance fee, FKK will be more expensive too.
Best regards.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2033854]Any of the Sharks' regulars have a list of girl who provide DFK with no upsell? Also, which girls demand 100 euro for DFK?
This would definitely be beneficial for us who don't hit Sharks often but will be there soon.[/QUOTE]No upselling for Mandy. De and as far I remember lovely Sandra. De. Audi, queens of autobahns, are less expensive than some not efficient Dacia at Sharks, not always at GT, but I found last week end a real RS4 who didn t know the word upselling. At LR, Dacia are Shiftech improved for WRC. Depends how Dacia are managed. Same for Audi at GT.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2033854]Any of the Sharks' regulars have a list of girl who provide DFK with no upsell? Also, which girls demand 100 euro for DFK?
This would definitely be beneficial for us who don't hit Sharks often but will be there soon.[/QUOTE]Such a list makes IMHO no sense bc regulars get different service than non regulars. And second anyway we should wait till July and see how service and price then develop.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2033914]Such a list makes IMHO no sense bc regulars get different service than non regulars. [/QUOTE]I have a different view of the girls' actions. For girls upselling they should be named on public boards so that they may receive less business than one who follows the rules. Maybe I'm being optimistic or foolish but maybe this will get some girls to rethink their strategy if they are boycotted.
[QUOTE=OlivierParis;2033876]Hello,
Many thanks for your reply.
What do you think about escort and FKK.
250 euro per hour in Paris is quite expensive, but if I add transport and hotel and entrance fee, FKK will be more expensive too.
Best regards.[/QUOTE]If you don't want to spend money, don't go to escorts or FKK. Like in casinos, places where you spend money and sometimes you succeed to get pleasure, sometimes not. Some guys think they will win money in brothels, playing all day on machines.
So many souvenirs with Russian escorts in Paris, so many times out of StarEscort now closed, or Russian girls for me, or Amour Russe, for diner, Paris by night, perfume or present for child bought in Disney store on Champs Elysées and Russian level sex in hotel or apartment to finish. Mum wanted so much to thank for present for child, they were so hot, even when Siberian. Also so funny to walk on Champs Elysées in Winter with a girl on high heels, stockings and short skirt, like on Nevski Prospect Saint Petersburg. Cost 250/300 + present + diner for about 5 hours with a real beauty.
Only a very few real Russian girls in FKK, a few German girls, mostly Romanian girls but I found some real beauties, very honest, lovely and real woman behavior. Some Romanians can be great GFE.
Now, new Russian escorts are not as pretty than before, and I find beauties in FKK, so I spend my week ends in FKK land, Germany or Switzerland.
In FKK, you can eat, drink, included in entry, go to jacuzzi, sauna, swimming pool, very cold in Germany, look at girls, speak with them and take time to choose after seeing them for real, not on photos or videos. Most girls speak English.
Sharks is a good club for club services: foods, drinks, garden. Many girls, but not many beauties or high services level at the moment, only a few girls are really pretty and high level. Some other clubs are higher level for girls. Just my subjective opinion, but Mandy. De, Sandra. De, Patricia. Mold, Gloria. Ro worth 50 per 30 mn spent with them.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2033854]Any of the Sharks' regulars have a list of girl who provide DFK with no upsell? [/QUOTE]Yes, but these will not be pubilshed here.
HB.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2033921]I have a different view of the girls' actions. For girls upselling they should be named on public boards so that they may receive less business than one who follows the rules. Maybe I'm being optimistic or foolish but maybe this will get some girls to rethink their strategy if they are boycotted.[/QUOTE]If such a list is published all the girls' performance will significantly improve.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2033854]Any of the Sharks' regulars have a list of girl who provide DFK with no upsell?.[/QUOTE]My list of girls who provide DFK with no upsell for the first room:
Ailyne, Anja, Betty, Cindy, Dina, Dora, Eva, Evita, Lea, Madalina, Mandy, Megan, Melanie, Mia, Nastia, Nicolette, Paloma, Sandra, Siri, Vivien, Yvette.
My list of girls who didn't provide DFK or provide DFK with upsell for the first room: Amelia, Andrea, Bianca, Brenda, Cosmina, Diana, Evre, Esther, Janine, Lavinia, Leona, Mercy, Micky, Sabine, Sidonia, Steffi, Yelis.
Among girls of second category, only 4 girls offered DFK with no upsell for the second room.
[QUOTE=OlivierParis;2033876]Hello,
Many thanks for your reply.
What do you think about escort and FKK.
250 euro per hour in Paris is quite expensive, but if I add transport and hotel and entrance fee, FKK will be more expensive too.
Best regards.[/QUOTE]It is totally different world. FKK give you so much choices. In term of cost, no place is cheap if you want to be a happy monger. Just save up more money and come on board. If you like white chicks, that is the place to go.
[QUOTE=NotSavvy;2034004]My list of girls who provide DFK with no upsell for the first room:
Ailyne, Anja, Betty, Cindy, Dina, Dora, Eva, Evita, Lea, Madalina, Mandy, Megan, Melanie, Mia, Nastia, Nicolette, Paloma, Sandra, Siri, Vivien, Yvette.
My list of girls who didn't provide DFK or provide DFK with upsell for the first room: Amelia, Andrea, Bianca, Brenda, Cosmina, Diana, Evre, Esther, Janine, Lavinia, Leona, Mercy, Micky, Sabine, Sidonia, Steffi, Yelis.
Among girls of second category, only 4 girls offered DFK with no upsell for the second room.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Now this is a valuable post! 20 girls now who I can say yes to and 17 who I won't say yes to. Others should say no to those 17 girls too! To be fair to Steffi though I don't think she ever provided DFK at any price.
[QUOTE=NotSavvy;2034004]My list of girls who provide DFK with no upsell for the first room:
Ailyne, Anja, Betty, Cindy, Dina, Dora, Eva, Evita, Lea, Madalina, Mandy, Megan, Melanie, Mia, Nastia, Nicolette, Paloma, Sandra, Siri, Vivien, Yvette.[/QUOTE]I doubt this with some girls of your list. Two points: 1st depends when was your first session. Maybe one or two years ago, 2nd depends what reputation you have as client at this club. I know clients (spend quite often around 500 euro with one girl per day and many repeats) girl must be totally stupid refuse or want extra for DFK at beginning in first session.
BTW some girls on this list don't work anymore at Sharks.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2034024]I doubt this with some girls of your list. Two points: 1st depends when was your first session. Maybe one or two years ago, 2nd depends what reputation you have as client at this club. I know clients (spend quite often around 500 euro with one girl per day and many repeats) girl must be totally stupid refuse or want extra for DFK at beginning in first session.
BTW some girls on this list don't work anymore at Sharks.[/QUOTE] The guy is trying to be helpful and all you can do is criticize what he has to say?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2034028]The guy is trying to be helpful and all you can do is criticize what he has to say?[/QUOTE]No sorry I tell this from my point of view but maybe you prefer living in fantasy land.
And some girls of this list (sometimes) don't do DFK at first 50 euro session anymore. You can find some reports about these girls at German forums where these girls don't DFK anymore at first 50 euro session.
BTW I wouldn't argue with you if the girls at Cowboy Soi or Nana Place are better/prettier or what is the best P6 place in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2034028]The guy is trying to be helpful and all you can do is criticize what he has to say?[/QUOTE]Nastya is not at Sharks but not what wrote or said many, at least for free. For Megan you will have to pay 140/30 mn.
Some, not my single experience with her, wrote Stefi was kissing. Yes, blond top pole dancer Stefi. Ro at Globe was kissing all along 1 hour room like a sweet passionate GF. Had to apologize not to respect my promise to repeat, but couldn t between Kate and Isabella.
Also different way to DFK, different meaning for guys.
Some guys don't kiss dirty WGs, just holes to fill.
[QUOTE=NotSavvy;2034004]My list of girls who provide DFK with no upsell for the first room:
Ailyne, Anja, Betty, Cindy, Dina, Dora, Eva, Evita, Lea, Madalina, Mandy, Megan, Melanie, Mia, Nastia, Nicolette, Paloma, Sandra, Siri, Vivien, Yvette.
My list of girls who didn't provide DFK or provide DFK with upsell for the first room: Amelia, Andrea, Bianca, Brenda, Cosmina, Diana, Evre, Esther, Janine, Lavinia, Leona, Mercy, Micky, Sabine, Sidonia, Steffi, Yelis.
Among girls of second category, only 4 girls offered DFK with no upsell for the second room.[/QUOTE]In my recent experience.
Correction (maybe YMMV):
Nastia and Vivien (red hair) - Did not get DFK from them. LFK only.
Yellis, Bianka and Sabina provide DFK.
Ester provides DFK but not at the first room.
Addition:
No-upsell DFK: Elif & Amalia, Karolina, Hanna, Manuella, Erica, Patricia, Elli (black), Ivy, Gloria, Emma, Marissa, Natalia, Jessica. Known girls that currently not at Sharks but might return: Scarlet, Karina, Sasha, Selena, Ronya, Aryanna, Agnes, Ruby, Luiza.
No DFK: Enya, Ebru, Izabella.
Upsell DFK or DFK at 1 HR only: Julia, Tamara, Marianna (glasses).
Many names simply forgotten.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2033921]I have a different view of the girls' actions. For girls upselling they should be named on public boards so that they may receive less business than one who follows the rules. Maybe I'm being optimistic or foolish but maybe this will get some girls to rethink their strategy if they are boycotted.[/QUOTE]How many men you see at Sharks every time you there? How many nick-names you see on this board? German boards have more active members but this is still a drop in the ocean. I don't think that boards have significant influence on girls' popularity.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2033954]Only a very few real Russian girls in FKK.[/QUOTE]Even less than you think. I speak Russian. Sometimes when I start talking in Russian to "Russian" girls they don't understand any single word except some very common, mostly swear. Same as some "Moldovan" girls. I know Moldovan geography pretty well. When I start talking about towns surrounding their homes they have no idea what I am talking about.
My question seems pretty ridiculous so please bear with me.
Will the girls do oral hygiene treatment after each room?
I think it's a must do thing. Am I wrong?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2033921]I have a different view of the girls' actions. For girls upselling they should be named on public boards so that they may receive less business than one who follows the rules. Maybe I'm being optimistic or foolish but maybe this will get some girls to rethink their strategy if they are boycotted.[/QUOTE]Why do Yyou want to blacklist not kissing or upselling for kissing girls, some guys don't look for kissing girls, so no problem for them about these girls. I always wrote it was my mistake not to ask Stefi about kissing, before going to room, but for BBBJ or sex, no problem with her even not high sensuality, but a bit difficult for me to enjoy foreplay without kissing. Nevertheless, she was a pretty and friendly girl for our room, but only 30 mn and 50 €, not my standard room for time.
When a girl say not kissing or ask for extra, I just don't go with her, next one, play again. I m only interested by fluent kissing, not forced kissing to get a few business. So many great kisser in FKK land.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2034042]Even less than you think. I speak Russian. Sometimes when I start talking in Russian to "Russian" girls they don't understand any single word except some very common, mostly swear. Same as some "Moldovan" girls. I know Moldovan geography pretty well. When I start talking about towns surrounding their homes they have no idea what I am talking about.[/QUOTE]I experience the same with claimed Russian girls, with my school level. But there are few, like Katea at Samya, with Siberian face, even not 100% Russian. So many are happy to believe Anja Oase could be Russian.
Sweet Marina at Sharks is not Russian, but real Latvian, like was Ina at Oase.
About Moldavian Republic, claimed girls don t know more than Chisinau. Most are Moldavian Romanian, which is not important if the girl is good. I really did appreciate when Kate introduced herself as coming from poor Moldavian part of Romania, and what a great GF, who did worth I followed her at Globe. And now, no more money, I had to sell house to pay entry, and had to sleep in car now.
[QUOTE=SexInCity;2034047]My question seems pretty ridiculous so please bear with me.
Will the girls do oral hygiene treatment after each room?
I think it's a must do thing. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]Most often you can taste and smell previous guy cum. We share everything in FKK, girls and diseases.
[QUOTE=SexInCity;2034047]My question seems pretty ridiculous so please bear with me.
Will the girls do oral hygiene treatment after each room?
I think it's a must do thing. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]Depends on your definition of oral hygiene treatment.
Listerine? Chewing gum? Mints? Probably.
Brushing teeth? Very Unlikely after each room.
At an atomic level, you have to assume some risk of fluid transfer that belongs to another dude in each DFK instance.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2034072]
At an atomic level, you have to assume some risk of fluid transfer that belongs to another dude in each DFK instance.[/QUOTE]Try to not even think about the CIM side of things. DFK (or even LFK) a girl after she did CIM with the prior client?
[QUOTE=Craiova;2034024]I doubt this with some girls of your list. Two points: 1st depends when was your first session. Maybe one or two years ago, 2nd depends what reputation you have as client at this club. I know clients (spend quite often around 500 euro with one girl per day and many repeats) girl must be totally stupid refuse or want extra for DFK at beginning in first session.
BTW some girls on this list don't work anymore at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Your criticism is well justified. There are YMMV girls and customers don't play the same game.
I just wanted to share my experiences and provide an example for the other to compare with his own. If a girl appears constantly in the others lists like a DFK provider, then I'm sure that this information takes on a meaningful value.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2034035]Nastya is not at Sharks but not what wrote or said many, at least for free. For Megan you will have to pay 140/30 mn.
Some, not my single experience with her, wrote Stefi was kissing. Yes, blond top pole dancer Stefi. Ro at Globe was kissing all along 1 hour room like a sweet passionate GF. Had to apologize not to respect my promise to repeat, but couldn t between Kate and Isabella.
Also different way to DFK, different meaning for guys.
Some guys don't kiss dirty WGs, just holes to fill.[/QUOTE]I meant many wrote or said Nastya was not really kissing, and not for only 50 € room. Seems also Janine. De not to be as well a kissing performer.
I'm pretty sure, because smelling beer or ashtray, more guys don't kiss dirty prostitutes compare to guys who are kiss lovers. So there are kind of girls for everyone, and not only Sharks, at Bab, LR, land of kissing girls.
[QUOTE=NotSavvy;2034004]My list of girls who provide DFK with no upsell for the first room:
Dina, Evita, Lea, Mia, Nastia[/QUOTE]That probably is not true anymore in a 50 EUR session.
HB.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2034036]In my recent experience.
Correction (maybe YMMV):
No-upsell DFK: Elif & Amalia, Karolina, Hanna, Manuella, Erica, Patricia, Elli (black), Ivy, Gloria, Emma, Marissa, Natalia, Jessica. [/QUOTE]The sisters Elif and Amalia provide DFK only for 100 Euro sessions.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2034036]
Known girls that currently not at Sharks but might return: Scarlet, Karina, Sasha, Selena, Ronya, Aryanna, Agnes, Ruby, Luiza.[/QUOTE]Luisa is back! Ronya will never be back again because she is dead.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2034028]The guy is trying to be helpful and all you can do is criticize what he has to say?[/QUOTE]You should know some are not so reliable. No guys could afford to pay rate for Siri, even Sheikh Al Makhtoum couldn t.
I would be so happy nobody believe my writings, like I don t for some, then no bullshit for my low level girls. So, guys, all my writings are just fake, my girls are ugly and so bad level in bed, because I'm not self confident enough to go to top models and I also think beautiful girls can't be good for sex, because they would treat us just like shit, compared to their beauty. I m sure Asian specialists are the best performer.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2034190]The sisters Elif and Amalia provide DFK only for 100 Euro sessions.
Luisa is back! Ronya will never be back again because she is dead.[/QUOTE]Sisters were only smiling, no upselling, but not pretty faces enough for me.
Sad story for Ronja. Girls should be very careful about guys, out of brothels. Money is useless when we are dead.
Most girls after CIM use mouthwash immediately in the room itself. I would like to believe they all like to wash up anyways in their changing room, I see many men clean up and use mouthwash provided by the club.
Some brush before and during shower. Almost all 9/10 men shower after the session. I doubt how many girls shower after each session because I see many of them back into action almost immediately.
[QUOTE=SexInCity;2034047]My question seems pretty ridiculous so please bear with me.
Will the girls do oral hygiene treatment after each room?
I think it's a must do thing. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2034190] Ronya will never be back again because she is dead.[/QUOTE]What happened?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2034051]About Moldavian Republic, claimed girls don t know more than Chisinau. [/QUOTE]If "Moldavian" girl claimed she is from Chisinau I start talking about Chisinau districts. I am still not sure whether Patricia is Molgovian or Romanian. But I really don't care since totally satisfied with her performance.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2034190]The sisters Elif and Amalia provide DFK only for 100 Euro sessions.[/QUOTE]My first room with Elif in mid of January was 50 Euro (actually 60 with the tip because of good service). DFK was served. After that I book sisters for duos only which is always more than 100.
Please delete. Thx
HB.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2034223]If "Moldavian" girl claimed she is from Chisinau I start talking about Chisinau districts. I am still not sure whether Patricia is Molgovian or Romanian. But I really don't care since totally satisfied with her performance.[/QUOTE]I did the same about Prague districts with a girl claiming to be Czech. She didn t know. When You live, work, or just go to Prague, impossible not to know about districts there. But I promised not to say, because she thought Czech is better than Romanian for business.
You give me the choice between a pretty Romanian, pretty Hungarian, pretty Czech, pretty German. I choose the Romanian because more sweet and more sensual for me.
About blond, now silicon, with little voice, Patricia, no matter when she is from, had only 1 room with her in 2015, but she was a sweet candy, real GFE, like Mandy, Sandra. Thanks for Gloria. Ro.
[QUOTE=NotSavvy;2034004]My list of girls who provide DFK with no upsell for the first room:
Ailyne, Anja, Betty, Cindy, Dina, Dora, Eva, Evita, Lea, Madalina, Mandy, Megan, Melanie, Mia, Nastia, Nicolette, Paloma, Sandra, Siri, Vivien, Yvette.
My list of girls who didn't provide DFK or provide DFK with upsell for the first room: Amelia, Andrea, Bianca, Brenda, Cosmina, Diana, Evre, Esther, Janine, Lavinia, Leona, Mercy, Micky, Sabine, Sidonia, Steffi, Yelis.
Among girls of second category, only 4 girls offered DFK with no upsell for the second room.[/QUOTE]Sorry, my condition is usually 1 h without extra for the first room.
Some were honest to tell from the start chatting they are not doing DFK at all. But there are some who gave only LFK despite the deal we made for DFK.
[QUOTE=NotSavvy;2034004]My list of girls who provide DFK with no upsell for the first room:
Ailyne, Anja, Betty, Cindy, Dina, Dora, Eva, Evita, Lea, Madalina, Mandy, Megan, Melanie, Mia, Nastia, Nicolette, Paloma, Sandra, Siri, Vivien, Yvette.
[/QUOTE]About the lovely Eva, does someone know if she's still working in the club? She was my best session, above Mandy, but she has not a regular schedule.
I'm not a regular at Sharks but Eva, Mandy, Madalina, Stephanie kissed me without asking how many times I wanted to stay with them. But actually I stayed one hour with all of them except Stephanie.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2034036]
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Nastia and Vivien (red hair) - Did not get DFK from them. LFK only.
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[/QUOTE]A few weeks ago I interviewed Nastia and one of the first things she mentioned was that she does not kiss.
[QUOTE=Steppenwolf11;2034401]A few weeks ago I interviewed Nastia and one of the first things she mentioned was that she does not kiss.[/QUOTE]But when she's in good mood, she makes great DFK.
[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;2034405]But when she's in good mood, she makes great DFK.[/QUOTE]I can tell you a secret how to improve her mood: money LOL.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2034421]I can tell you a secret how to improve her mood: money LOL.[/QUOTE]50 € 30 minutes yes.
I will be in Frankfurt over a Monday-Tuesday-Wednesday in June. Which day and time would be the best to visit Sharks?
I'm most interested in Which day / time will have the best quality girls and the least crowds. Also prefer FKK to lingerie / dresses.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2034385]About the lovely Eva, does someone know if she's still working in the club? She was my best session, above Mandy, but she has not a regular schedule.[/QUOTE]I was her regular for all time she worked at Sharks. End of 2016 she asked if I want to have another room with her. I said not now but next time for sure. She answered that it is not likely that next time will ever happen. I asked why, but she gave no answer. That was my last time I've seen her at Sharks.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2034259]Thanks for Gloria. Ro.[/QUOTE]Gloria is glorious. I haven't seen her during weekend April 22nd. Is she still at Sharks?
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2034429]Gloria is glorious. I haven't seen her during weekend April 22nd. Is she still at Sharks?[/QUOTE]Didn't return to Sharks since Easter Monday. I only went because couldn t ski my mountain on this Monday because of not solid enough fresh snow, but on next Friday, I was back to my now icy mountain, no top girl can compete, it was such a pleasure to be single for my 2 runs, cutting the ice. Gloria. Ro who was smiling, lovely and no upselling, asked why I wanted to return to run so dangerous face? Just for adrenaline, just for passion. I think to remember she asked if I would come back? I answered mountain will decide. Now I miss so much my mountain, will have to wait until next Winter and solid snow, so not in December, but we are married now. Can't marry a WG who goes to be fucked by anybody, but can marry a mountain when she looks at you and whisper: come to me, with her many rocks.
Except Gloria, Ebru, Nastya, Madalina and blond Patricia, average casting on this Monday, but Gloria made me kill my frustration, before returning home.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2034428]I was her regular for all time she worked at Sharks. End of 2016 she asked if I want to have another room with her. I said not now but next time for sure. She answered that it is not likely that next time will ever happen. I asked why, but she gave no answer. That was my last time I've seen her at Sharks.[/QUOTE]I had two top-notch sessions with Eva in January 2017. Consulting my notes they occurred on 11 January and then again on 14 January. I went to Sharks a few times during the following week, but did not see Eva working during these visits.
It would be nice to get news of any sightings of this sweet girl subsequent to mid-January 2017. For example: Anybody seen her recently?
[QUOTE=Jersey135;2034427]I will be in Frankfurt over a Monday-Tuesday-Wednesday in June. Which day and time would be the best to visit Sharks?
I'm most interested in Which day / time will have the best quality girls and the least crowds. Also prefer FKK to lingerie / dresses.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Wednesday!
[QUOTE=Jersey135;2034427]I will be in Frankfurt over a Monday-Tuesday-Wednesday in June. Which day and time would be the best to visit Sharks?
I'm most interested in Which day / time will have the best quality girls and the least crowds. Also prefer FKK to lingerie / dresses.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]You should find large FKK casting on discount Wednesday with entry 50 €. Monday casting is usually not so bad, girls should also be full naked, but some hide ass with towel. Tuesday is lower day, if you find good girls on Monday, ask them if they work on Tuesday.
22 January was her last day.
Hope her new life is good and she doesn't need to come back to this job.
[QUOTE=Ortos;2034492]I had two top-notch sessions with Eva in January 2017. Consulting my notes they occurred on 11 January and then again on 14 January. I went to Sharks a few times during the following week, but did not see Eva working during these visits.
It would be nice to get news of any sightings of this sweet girl subsequent to mid-January 2017. For example: Anybody seen her recently?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ortos;2034492]I had two top-notch sessions with Eva in January 2017. Consulting my notes they occurred on 11 January and then again on 14 January. I went to Sharks a few times during the following week, but did not see Eva working during these visits.
It would be nice to get news of any sightings of this sweet girl subsequent to mid-January 2017. For example: Anybody seen her recently?[/QUOTE]The last time I have seen her at Sharks was on January 18th!
Same for me, January the 15th.
Hi,
I am a regular reader of this forum and has my first ever FKK visit a few months back. However it was not a very pleasant experience. May be because my selection was not really good. I tried find hotties like Mia, Sandra as per the discussions here, but could not locate them. Is there a way to know who are these super stars without asking everyone there name? I am planning my next visit in next Wednesday.