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FS at Asian Mystique
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2762182]I have used the services of Asian Mystique several times over the years, and I was pleased with the service.
I have never tried Melty Kiss.[/QUOTE]Hi there.
I know FS is technically illegal in Japan but the Asian Mystique website is written very much as if it is offered (e. G. "all the intimate basics" Given this is written for Westerners. Anyway can you confirm if it is in the basic price or is extra and how much? I'd just rather know and agree before booking tha end up in some negotiation in the room.
Also if you have any particular recommendations I'd be interested.
Thanks.
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FS at Asian Mystique
Is has always been included. Asian Mystique is a "private service" outside of the public space.
[QUOTE=OlderNotWiser;2763561]Hi there.
I know FS is technically illegal in Japan but the Asian Mystique website is written very much as if it is offered (e. G. "all the intimate basics" Given this is written for Westerners. Anyway can you confirm if it is in the basic price or is extra and how much? I'd just rather know and agree before booking tha end up in some negotiation in the room.
Also if you have any particular recommendations I'd be interested.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
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Half Right
[QUOTE=Mtraveller;2763635]Is has always been included. Asian Mystique is a "private service" outside of the public space.[/QUOTE]Absolutely true that AM offers FS. But the rest of your comment implies it's somehow legal. It most assuredly is NOT. That said there is nothing to worry about. They've been offering it for years maybe they pay someone to look the other way who knows. But there is no factual safe haven from the Japanese prostitution laws.
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Prince Spa
Hi Guys,
Anyone ever tried that one?
[URL]https://prince-spa.com/[/URL]
Cheers.
SSCFAN.
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Thc
THC looks good from the website and reviews, but I hate the idea of having to guess about if FS is available and have to additionally negotiate on it. Anyone have a take on this?
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Read Below
[QUOTE=ABlueWave;2764776]THC looks good from the website and reviews, but I hate the idea of having to guess about if FS is available and have to additionally negotiate on it. Anyone have a take on this?[/QUOTE]Dude we just talked about this. You do t even have to go back pages. Right on this page. Just use your thumb to scroll the page. 😂.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2764800]Dude we just talked about this. You do t even have to go back pages. Right on this page. Just use your thumb to scroll the page. 😂.[/QUOTE]I promise not to ask questions about THC, as all I have read has been awesome! My question is, taking my maiden voyage to Japan in 2023, and curious about the neighborhoods to stay in to maximize ease of hobbying. This is not a hobby focused trip, but I do plan on sightseeing so to speak.
Thanks in advance, and thanks for the great posts in this forum!
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Shinjuku is Rockin
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2765700]I promise not to ask questions about THC, as all I have read has been awesome! My question is, taking my maiden voyage to Japan in 2023, and curious about the neighborhoods to stay in to maximize ease of hobbying. This is not a hobby focused trip, but I do plan on sightseeing so to speak.
Thanks in advance, and thanks for the great posts in this forum![/QUOTE]Well THC is in Shinjuku. They also used to be in Shijigawa but that closed. And their sister soapy Paradise moved then became Rush Hour (what a name!) and then it closed. So THC Shinjuku is your best bet.
If you haven't been to Tokyo before, Shinjuku will blow your mind. So many little clubs and restaurants and neon. It's breathtaking. You prob can't go wrong staying there as the subway can take you anywhere else fast and Shinjuku is a great base. So set up shop there and let the party begin. I'll let others tell you more about what else to see and do.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2765713]Well THC is in Shinjuku. They also used to be in Shijigawa but that closed. And their sister soapy Paradise moved then became Rush Hour (what a name!) and then it closed. So THC Shinjuku is your best bet.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Is Paradise actually closed? I never been there but did see their website. The website appears to be live with current dates. Unless it is a copycat site.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2765713]Well THC is in Shinjuku. They also used to be in Shijigawa but that closed. And their sister soapy Paradise moved then became Rush Hour (what a name!) and then it closed. So THC Shinjuku is your best bet.
If you haven't been to Tokyo before, Shinjuku will blow your mind. So many little clubs and restaurants and neon. It's breathtaking. You prob can't go wrong staying there as the subway can take you anywhere else fast and Shinjuku is a great base. So set up shop there and let the party begin. I'll let others tell you more about what else to see and do.[/QUOTE]Thank you! Shinjuku was one of my top choices so you must be reading my mind!
I'm coming for the F1 GP next fall, so will need to get to Nagoya by train.
How many days is appropriate to truly enjoy Shinjuku?
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Paradise is back (sort of)
The old, pre-pandemic "paradise" was a foreigners-only in-call place in Kawasaki where FS was more or less guaranteed. Not surprisingly, when Japan closed to foreigners, so did they.
Now they appear to be back, but as delivery only and with the notorious 1956 law restriction (I. E. No FS).
[URL]https://paradise-tokyo.net/home[/URL]
Hopefully they'll revert to their previous M. O. In the not too distant future.
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Paradise
[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2765996]The old, pre-pandemic "paradise" was a foreigners-only in-call place in Kawasaki where FS was more or less guaranteed. Not surprisingly, when Japan closed to foreigners, so did they.
Now they appear to be back, but as delivery only and with the notorious 1956 law restriction (I. E. No FS).
[URL]https://paradise-tokyo.net/home[/URL]
Hopefully they'll revert to their previous M. O. In the not too distant future.[/QUOTE]Yeah I saw they were back but as you say as an escort service. They were a proper soapy before and that is a unique experience. And having it Gaijin friendly like THC was amazing. Absolutely loved that place. But as an escort service not sure they have much extra to offer. Although I would guess their English customer service to be excellent still. That was their claim to fame like THC.
P.S. I'the take the FS thing with a grain of salt. Most delivery is FS implied. I'the be really surprised if that has changed. Someone find out!
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2766044]Yeah I saw they were back but as you say as an escort service. They were a proper soapy before and that is a unique experience. And having it Gaijin friendly like THC was amazing. Absolutely loved that place. But as an escort service not sure they have much extra to offer. Although I would guess their English customer service to be excellent still. That was their claim to fame like THC.
P.S. I'the take the FS thing with a grain of salt. Most delivery is FS implied. I'the be really surprised if that has changed. Someone find out![/QUOTE]Ah I see, thanks. That's too bad. Never tried a "soapy", would like to at least once though. Any good ones who reliably take English speakers?
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"Arranging a meeting between two parties for the purpose of vaginal intercourse in exchange for financial compensation is illegal in Japan."
But anal intercourse (AF) is not, and is often openly advertised.
And there is always the gray area that "the shop didn't arrange VF, it was offered by the girl directly."
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[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2766135]"Arranging a meeting between two parties for the purpose of vaginal intercourse in exchange for financial compensation is illegal in Japan."
But anal intercourse (AF) is not, and is often openly advertised.
And there is always the gray area that "the shop didn't arrange VF, it was offered by the girl directly."[/QUOTE]As a Catholic school graduate, fond memories of girls who would do anal, but not vaginal, as they were saving that for their husbands. Oof!
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BDSM at AM
Hello guys,
I heard a lot about Asian mystic and Saw the BDSM option on their website and saw it has certain conditions like we need to pay for a meeting first and discuss terms can anyone please share their BDSM experience with AM would be really helpful thank you.
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Korean health delivery
So I've heard about Korean health delivery in Japan, if it's anything like the viral vids that happened years ago, I really want to try it out myself. I found a few but the model images and bio look suspicious.
The photos for instance look heavily photoshopped and ask the girls faces look like it was carved from the same plastic surgeon. Also all the girls are all 19-20 yo with similar if not the same body stats. Wtf. I've been itching for quality Korean poon for a while now so wondering if someone can recommend or advice me their experience with one. I don't mind getting outcall from Uguisudani so long as the girl's photo is accurate and spinner hot.
Viral vid: [URL]https://spankbang.com/43vvn/video/south[/URL]+korean+prostituion+16.
Korean deriheru:
[URL]https://s.dto.jp/shop/31403[/URL]
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Ugusuidani
[QUOTE=StinkyFeet;2766906]So I've heard about Korean health delivery in Japan, if it's anything like the viral vids that happened years ago, I really want to try it out myself. I found a few but the model images and bio look suspicious.
The photos for instance look heavily photoshopped and ask the girls faces look like it was carved from the same plastic surgeon. Also all the girls are all 19-20 yo with similar if not the same body stats. Wtf. I've been itching for quality Korean poon for a while now so wondering if someone can recommend or advice me their experience with one. I don't mind getting outcall from Uguisudani so long as the girl's photo is accurate and spinner hot.
[/QUOTE]The Kandeli shops in Uguisudani are all BBFS if that's what you mean. You will need good Japanese to access, and even then the shops will mostly not serve people who aren't East Asian (Japanese, Korean, Chinese). The girls are hit or miss. There are a number of review sites in Japanese where you can get a good sense who are the hot girls.
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Sucks that good japanese is needed when a lot of girls don't speak it well anyways and might be better off with english. Was hoping to check out kandeli since it's less than half the cost of a korean provider in the US, but seems like I need to work on my japanese first LOL.
[QUOTE=Xslikx;2767326]The Kandeli shops in Uguisudani are all BBFS if that's what you mean. You will need good Japanese to access, and even then the shops will mostly not serve people who aren't East Asian (Japanese, Korean, Chinese). The girls are hit or miss. There are a number of review sites in Japanese where you can get a good sense who are the hot girls.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks for all your help. I'm trying to get there line without any success in finding any. I can pass the east Asian requirement but not the Japanese language requirement. Ugh.
[QUOTE=Xslikx;2767326]The Kandeli shops in Uguisudani are all BBFS if that's what you mean. You will need good Japanese to access, and even then the shops will mostly not serve people who aren't East Asian (Japanese, Korean, Chinese). The girls are hit or miss. There are a number of review sites in Japanese where you can get a good sense who are the hot girls.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mgkckr;2767407]Sucks that good japanese is needed when a lot of girls don't speak it well anyways and might be better off with english. Was hoping to check out kandeli since it's less than half the cost of a korean provider in the US, but seems like I need to work on my japanese first LOL.[/QUOTE]What is that old phrase. "the rules are for thee, not for me?" .
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Blowjoib alley tokyo
Hi all, I am headed to Tokyo later this month and was wondering if anyone knows if Jan Jan BJ bar is still in business It is seedy but a lot of fun.
Thanks for an update. I haven't been back since Covid and a lot has probably changed.
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=RoamingViking;2768747]Hi all, I am headed to Tokyo later this month and was wondering if anyone knows if Jan Jan BJ bar is still in business It is seedy but a lot of fun.
Thanks for an update. I haven't been back since Covid and a lot has probably changed.
Cheers![/QUOTE]Jan Jan in Sugamo is indeed open, I was there last week. Still seedy, but they welcome gaijin as always. Dropped by late afternoon, there were a couple of older Japanese salarymen there, and maybe 3-4 women. I drew an average-looking but service-oriented woman in her mid-30's, I'd guess. Not eye candy, but slim and friendly, and she certainly got the job done, with lots of roaming allowed. Still Y3000 to bust a nut BBBJ in classic Japanese blow-bar style.
It had been a while since I visited Japan due to covid, but it feels mostly back to normal. Bars and restaurants were busy. Only difference is most everyone is still wearing masks, even outdoors, although they come off quickly in restaurants.
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Kaidan
Thanks for the update. I have been there many times pre Covid and liked a gal called Kaidan. Very slim, if you know who I mean and she is still there. They used to have a website? Have you seen it?
Happy hunting. I may check out Hinomaru as well while I am at it. Otherwise the pickings for a gaijin are indeed slim even though I am am very very fluent in Japanese having been stationed there for many years. It makes no difference.
Too bad, so sad.
[QUOTE=EdHaskell;2769299]Jan Jan in Sugamo is indeed open, I was there last week. Still seedy, but they welcome gaijin as always. Dropped by late afternoon, there were a couple of older Japanese salarymen there, and maybe 3-4 women. I drew an average-looking but service-oriented woman in her mid-30's, I'd guess. Not eye candy, but slim and friendly, and she certainly got the job done, with lots of roaming allowed. Still Y3000 to bust a nut BBBJ in classic Japanese blow-bar style.
It had been a while since I visited Japan due to covid, but it feels mostly back to normal. Bars and restaurants were busy. Only difference is most everyone is still wearing masks, even outdoors, although they come off quickly in restaurants.[/QUOTE]
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Experiences with Asian Mystique
Was in Tokyo recently and gave Asian Mystique agency a whirl. Overall very impressed.
Firstly, FS comes as standard in the prices. Whilst they don't want to say this in so many words, I sent an email enquiry and they confirmed this in as close to black and white as you could without saying it. I much prefer this to having to negotiate for "extras" that may or may not be available after someone's arrived. In fact, the service was very much all in. There were a few things they list as "extras" but for me, unless you are into esoteric stuff, all the basics are included. Shower together, DFK, BBBJ, FS.
It's not cheap, but this is Japan, not Thailand, it is a high price country. Though they price breaks seemed a bit odd - 28 K yen for 1 HR, 35 K yen for 2 and 50 K yen for 3, which seems to make 2 hours the best value option (and the one I generally went for). My experience was 1 pop per hour, although I didn't push for more (bit passed that these days anyway!
The ladies I tried were.
Miki. She was a Japanese cutie, very friendly, babbled away in barely comprehensible English, but it was quite sweet. Nice petite body, small but pert tits and a little tuft of dark pubes, very much a Japanese GFE experience.
Miyabi. She was something else! Classic Japanese face, but otherwise quite unusual. Very tall, quite statuesque (not fat, more in a model sense), lots of tattoos which is unusual in Japan and a few choice piercings. And definitely a bit of kinky type. In between sessions asked me what my sexual fantasies are (not something you usually get asked! Excellent English, and easy to talk to in between.
Mirai. This was two hours of sensual bliss. She is attractive, if a little severe looking, very toned body, ultra slim, and seemingly a little reserved. But somehow very hot when things get going, one where I just laid back and enjoyed the ride. I suspect she may have or does work in a soapie, because we had a *very* nice time in the shower, she certainly knew how to make that fun.
Anyway, all in all, three quite different but very enjoyable sessions. The thing I liked overall about the agency was they were efficient to deal with (I used Line), the pictures (whilst obviously somewhat flattering and with blurred faces) were realistic, there weren't any big surprises, and the descriptions (which in most agencies round the world are just rubbish) really did give a reasonable idea of what they were like.
The ladies all seemed to genuinely want to please. Japanese service standards! - no rush, and it seemed most were doing it part time for extra money, one said they worked in real estate, one was a student etc and so on. Overall strongly recommended if you can cope with the prices.
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Jan Jan
Hi guys.
Wanted to give a try to Jan Jan yesterday.
Went around 6:30 pm, pretty easy to find. Just take the stairs down on the left side of Hotel Mentels.
Was greeted by a rather old man. Asked for 3000 payment and was seated on the couch.
A dude was being blown on the seat right behind me.
After few minutes, a rather old and slim lady came sit next to me. She's wearing a black dress with nothing under. She was friendly and went straight to business. Washed me up and gave me really great BJ with acces to her hairy pussy.
Finished CIM and she took the time to suck off any drop that was left. She spitted in a tissue afterwards.
It was done within 15 minutes so I normally had another shot included with another lady. Didn't have time so I left.
Overall great BJ, if you don't mind who's blowing you.
Anyway it's pretty dark in there and I wouldn't even remember her face if I saw her in the street.
And at this price it's a bargain.
WIR. Yes when I come back to Japan.
Cheers.
SSCFAN.
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THC. Maria. Avoid.
Hi Guys,
Tried her on my visit to Tokyo last week.
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=1842[/URL]
Tall girl, rather cute, very good English so you can have a nice conversation with her.
Apart from that, a total disappointment.
Can't touch her much, she can't kiss properly, decent BJ but that's it. No FS.
I left even before my time was over. Did not even blow my load. When I'm bored, I can't pretend.
Basically, don't waste your money on her.
Cheers.
SSCFAN.
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[QUOTE=RoamingViking;2769501]Thanks for the update. I have been there many times pre Covid and liked a gal called Kaidan. Very slim, if you know who I mean and she is still there. They used to have a website? Have you seen it?
Happy hunting. I may check out Hinomaru as well while I am at it. Otherwise the pickings for a gaijin are indeed slim even though I am am very very fluent in Japanese having been stationed there for many years. It makes no difference.
Too bad, so sad.[/QUOTE]That's disappointing. Returning to Japan for first time in over 20 years in March / early April for Hanami. Finding far better deals on hotels than Airbnb which will also be more anonymous. I'm noting Jan Jan / pink salons, a few outcall deri sites, and options mentioned in the last year or so in this thread. I'm typical gaijin but decently fluent and can usually banter in enough dialects to break the ice so anywhere that ever allows foreigners should let me in. I'm leaning towards staying near Shinjuku / Yoyogi mainly for the cherry blossom viewing but am open to suggestions. I limit it to $150/ night since I'll be out sightseeing and seeing friends and even some family most of the time so being near a good train line is critical.
Might also set up a pipeline on Seeking as it will be one of the rare times I could actually spend extended time doing whatever the hell I want vs escaping a group or family for a few hours. While variety is the spice, getting to really know one or two attractive locals has an appeal.
I'll continue to monitor and will post a report.
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Pintaro
Happy New year to all!
I finally made it over to Yan Yan and I am happy to report that things are much the same. Granted, they did away with the free tea served before the deed but service remains the same.
I lucked out the first time and got a pretty- looking twenty-something girl with a nice rack who did a very good job.
The second time I had a mature lady in her mid-forties. But she very well preserved with nice firm breasts and she let me play with her pussy.
Both girls did very well and let me hold their head while I got off. They spit in the end but let me finish nicely. They also were very friendly and we talked for a while before passing to the deed.
The best time to visit is probably in the late afternoon. The second time I went around 1 PM there was only my mature lady. If you ask for a special girl, they ask for an additional 3000 yen. The douche who runs the daytime shift is unfriendly and doesn't talk hardly at all.
This afternoon I was in the Kabukicho district of Shinjuku station and checked out Hinomaru. I regret to report that they are closed. The colorful dotted color neon sign is still there but all other signs are gone. I asked around and it appears that this establishment is gone forever.
Do any of you know of any other pintaros or BJ parlors that services foreigners? I speak decent Japanese after traveling here for many years and being stationed here but in Japan a foreigner is always a gaijin.
I am grateful for any useful intell on this subject.
Best wishes for the new year.
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Question
I never get a second shot and they generally make sure they finish in close to 30 minutes or less. Can you please clarify. Thank you.
[QUOTE=SscFan;2773494]Hi guys.
Wanted to give a try to Jan Jan yesterday.
Went around 6:30 pm, pretty easy to find. Just take the stairs down on the left side of Hotel Mentels.
Was greeted by a rather old man. Asked for 3000 payment and was seated on the couch.
A dude was being blown on the seat right behind me.
After few minutes, a rather old and slim lady came sit next to me. She's wearing a black dress with nothing under. She was friendly and went straight to business. Washed me up and gave me really great BJ with acces to her hairy pussy.
Finished CIM and she took the time to suck off any drop that was left. She spitted in a tissue afterwards.
It was done within 15 minutes so I normally had another shot included with another lady. Didn't have time so I left.
Overall great BJ, if you don't mind who's blowing you.
Anyway it's pretty dark in there and I wouldn't even remember her face if I saw her in the street.
And at this price it's a bargain.
WIR. Yes when I come back to Japan.
Cheers.
SSCFAN.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RoamingViking;2775989]I never get a second shot and they generally make sure they finish in close to 30 minutes or less. Can you please clarify. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Well I assumed I got a second shot because the guy behind me had two girls blowing him one after the other.
Maybe he paid for extras or couldn't blow off with the first lady.
Cheers.
SSCFAN.
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Jan Jan and THC
Finally back after several years of being kept out.
Hit up Jan Jan on my first night back at around 6-7 PM. Got lucky and scored a girl who looked to be in her early to mid 30's at latest. Nice pair of boobs and generally nice. I feel I always get lucky to not get stuck with a really old granny here so far over the years. Price was 4000. Looks like I will keep repeating in future.
Finally bit the bullet and tried out THC. Booked Rina because she was the only person available at 8 PM. Figured I'd take my chances:
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=1029[/URL]
This was my first experience with this company and I have to say despite the low silver rating on her she was great and did a nice GFE experience. Did the usual shower, LFK, CIM (it was an extra 3 k), and post bath time hangout.
I wonder if anyone has tried booking the AV star level and is it worth it or just a novelty to say you've had a JAV actress?
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Rina for the Win!
[QUOTE=JL234;2776678]Finally back after several years of being kept out.
Hit up Jan Jan on my first night back at around 6-7 PM. Got lucky and scored a girl who looked to be in her early to mid 30's at latest. Nice pair of boobs and generally nice. I feel I always get lucky to not get stuck with a really old granny here so far over the years. Price was 4000. Looks like I will keep repeating in future.
Finally bit the bullet and tried out THC. Booked Rina because she was the only person available at 8 PM. Figured I'd take my chances:
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=1029[/URL]
This was my first experience with this company and I have to say despite the low silver rating on her she was great and did a nice GFE experience. Did the usual shower, LFK, CIM (it was an extra 3 k), and post bath time hangout.
I wonder if anyone has tried booking the AV star level and is it worth it or just a novelty to say you've had a JAV actress?[/QUOTE]Wow. Rina was my very first THC girl back in 2018. I remember in the first 10 minutes I knew I would have to extend to 90 minutes and do two pops. As you say her FK is light. I guess that's a personal thing with each girl but I remember her Sumata was excellent. (Japanese almost sex technique where she slides her wet pussy lips along your cock oooh it was good). I am really glad to hear she's still bringing the GFE and has not hardened up. Congrats!
Actually u can see my review of her on 2/5/2018. Its great to see they keep all these reviews and they are straight up real.
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Jan jan?
[QUOTE=JL234;2776678]Finally back after several years of being kept out.
Hit up Jan Jan on my first night back at around 6-7 PM. Got lucky and scored a girl who looked to be in her early to mid 30's at latest. Nice pair of boobs and generally nice. I feel I always get lucky to not get stuck with a really old granny here so far over the years. Price was 4000. Looks like I will keep repeating in future.
Finally bit the bullet and tried out THC. Booked Rina because she was the only person available at 8 PM. Figured I'd take my chances:
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=1029[/URL]
This was my first experience with this company and I have to say despite the low silver rating on her she was great and did a nice GFE experience. Did the usual shower, LFK, CIM (it was an extra 3 k), and post bath time hangout.
I wonder if anyone has tried booking the AV star level and is it worth it or just a novelty to say you've had a JAV actress?[/QUOTE]Can you provide a link or location to Jan Jan?
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3 photos
[QUOTE=Drbombay;2777040]Can you provide a link or location to Jan Jan?[/QUOTE][URL]https://janjan-sugamo.com/[/URL]
Jan Jan is in a small alley just in front of Sugamo Station South Exit.
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Sakura Yutani
Hello,
This might me a bit irrelevant in the Tokyo thread for some of you, but I reside in India and there is a Japanese escort touring India at the moment. She is quoting 1000 US Dollars for 2 hours and the price is non negotiable. I tried negotiating and failed to lower the price. Goes by the name "Sakura Yutani" on the Massage republic website. Just google "Sakura Yutani" and you will get results.
Is this an exorbitant rate she is quoting compared to Japanese women available in Japan?
I am highly tempted to give her a try but part of my heart bleeds for the money she is asking for.
P. S: This 1000 USD she quotes for 2 hours is a salary of 2 months for me here in India.
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Back to Normal?
Are the soaplands back open for foreigners again? A few months back before the tourism ban was lifted I cruised down to Yoshiwara. I guess I got there too late cause everything was closed by then. Plus it looked like Naniwa was gone. I figured Covid kept the businesses closed especially for foreigners. But with the ban lifted I was hoping things would be open again.
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My opinion
[QUOTE=LonelyMonger30;2777406]Hello,
This might me a bit irrelevant in the Tokyo thread for some of you, but I reside in India and there is a Japanese escort touring India at the moment. She is quoting 1000 US Dollars for 2 hours and the price is non negotiable. I tried negotiating and failed to lower the price. Goes by the name "Sakura Yutani" on the Massage republic website. Just google "Sakura Yutani" and you will get results.
Is this an exorbitant rate she is quoting compared to Japanese women available in Japan?
I am highly tempted to give her a try but part of my heart bleeds for the money she is asking for.
P. S: This 1000 USD she quotes for 2 hours is a salary of 2 months for me here in India.[/QUOTE]Very high for someone with no reviews. In my experience, $300-$400 USD / HR is pretty standard for a well-reviewed Japanese woman. You might be better off booking a vacation to Tokyo.
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[QUOTE=ChristianG;2777064][URL]https://janjan-sugamo.com/[/URL]
Jan Jan is in a small alley just in front of Sugamo Station South Exit.[/QUOTE]Dommo Arrigato!
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Is Tokyo hentai club safe STD wise? I have heard Japan is a high STD rate country. Are the girls actually tested? Do you know of any reports of catching a STD from this place?
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[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2777835]Is Tokyo hentai club safe STD wise? I have heard Japan is a high STD rate country. Are the girls actually tested? Do you know of any reports of catching a STD from this place?[/QUOTE]Reported cases of chlamydia have increased but overall, Japan has a lower STD rate than the US, Canada, or most other developed countries. Still, there could be pockets where it's higher. Soapland or other high volume places test workers regularly as it's bad for business if they get rep for spreading STDs. Same for most high end escorts.
Low end fuck houses w / older Chinese or Korean providers who go bare carry a higher risk. Civvies generally are more likely to use condoms which are freely provided or easily purchased.
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[QUOTE=LonelyMonger30;2777406]Hello,
This might me a bit irrelevant in the Tokyo thread for some of you, but I reside in India and there is a Japanese escort touring India at the moment. She is quoting 1000 US Dollars for 2 hours and the price is non negotiable. I tried negotiating and failed to lower the price. Goes by the name "Sakura Yutani" on the Massage republic website. Just google "Sakura Yutani" and you will get results.
Is this an exorbitant rate she is quoting compared to Japanese women available in Japan?
I am highly tempted to give her a try but part of my heart bleeds for the money she is asking for.
P. S: This 1000 USD she quotes for 2 hours is a salary of 2 months for me here in India.[/QUOTE]In my opinion, NO ONE is worth 1 k for two hours, seriously. Who is she? Cristiano Ronaldo?
With that money, you could fly to Dubai in the morning, fuck 5 different girls and go back in the evening.
She's got what we call the GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome).
Cheers!
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Sakura Yutani
[QUOTE=SscFan;2778173]In my opinion, NO ONE is worth 1 k for two hours, seriously. Who is she? Cristiano Ronaldo?
With that money, you could fly to Dubai in the morning, fuck 5 different girls and go back in the evening.
She's got what we call the GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome).
Cheers![/QUOTE]What is suspicious is she has no reviews here on ISG except 4-5 on her official website. She wants an advance payment of 200 US dollars via an Amazon gift card or wishtender platform. I asked for a quick one minute video call confirmation on WhatsApp before I would make the advance payment and she refused saying I don't do anything for free!!
Only one good thing is she is open to giving golden showers and not many girls are open to that. I have a big fetish for receiving a golden shower.
But as your saying 1000 USD for 2 hours is exorbitant!!
She might be getting clients at that price point or she wouldn't be wasting time in India. After watching all those Japanese porn videos growing up as a teen, was longing to have it ticked off my bucket list for quite some time but this girl proved to be a disappointment at least for my budget.
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Just want to say I appreciate the insights here. Looking to try some gaijin friendly establishments next month on my first trip to Japan. THC and Jan Jan seem to be the best bet as of now. Any places other than Tokyo Amateur Escort that is close to Shibuya? This could be BJ parlors, soaplands, or incalls. Might get the misses to go visit Bliss Out with me.
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Visiting mid Feb
Thank you everyone for your contributions. I've learnt so much reading through the posts. I will be in Japan and first stop is Tokyo. I've read Jan Jan is a blow job bar that can accept foreigners but can you confirm if it's foreigners that speak Japanese? I am of Asian background but do not speak Japanese. Would I be able to get in? Thanks.
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Hi everyone,
I will be visiting Tokyo in Feb and was wondering if Jan Jan allow a Vietnamese non Japanese-speaking foreigner in? Looking for any pink salon. It would be my first time. Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Ibmacer;2779118]I've read Jan Jan is a blow job bar that can accept foreigners but can you confirm if it's foreigners that speak Japanese? I am of Asian background but do not speak Japanese. Would I be able to get in? Thanks.[/QUOTE]You not need to speak Japanese for go to Jan Jan and get your cock sucked.
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Try this instead
[QUOTE=Ibmacer;2779118]Thank you everyone for your contributions. I've learnt so much reading through the posts. I will be in Japan and first stop is Tokyo. I've read Jan Jan is a blow job bar that can accept foreigners but can you confirm if it's foreigners that speak Japanese? I am of Asian background but do not speak Japanese. Would I be able to get in? Thanks.[/QUOTE]If it's your first time, I recommend Shibuya Seafari. It's foreigner friendly and offers a lot more.
[URL]https://www.shibuya-seafari.com/gal.html[/URL]
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Japan First Time
[QUOTE=IcyBlue;2779299]If it's your first time, I recommend Shibuya Seafari. It's foreigner friendly and offers a lot more.
[URL]https://www.shibuya-seafari.com/gal.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I live in India and never been to Japan. The country looks like a different world to me. Tempted to visit from reading all the reports here and watching numerous videos on YouTube. How much would I need for a 4-5 day stay in Tokyo? I would like to stay in a mid range 3 star hotel and bang a Japanese girl every day at a soap land or like this place Shibuya Seafari.
If you have recommendations of a good clean hotel with private toilet and shower attached would be great. (does not have to be a 3 star) as I understand hotel prices in Tokyo are very expensive!
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[QUOTE=LonelyMonger30;2779500]I live in India and never been to Japan. The country looks like a different world to me. Tempted to visit from reading all the reports here and watching numerous videos on YouTube. How much would I need for a 4-5 day stay in Tokyo? I would like to stay in a mid range 3 star hotel and bang a Japanese girl every day at a soap land or like this place Shibuya Seafari.
If you have recommendations of a good clean hotel with private toilet and shower attached would be great. (does not have to be a 3 star) as I understand hotel prices in Tokyo are very expensive![/QUOTE]There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of hotels scattered around Greater Tokyo.
3 Star hotels will have a modular shower toilet in the room, which will be very small; they are designed for sleeping, not entertaining. Many have rules about visitors. Prices will be around JPY10,000-20,000. Allow another 10,000 for food, transport, (non sexual) entertainment.
Using a Google search will bring up dozens of suitable locations.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2776774]Wow. Rina was my very first THC girl back in 2018. I remember in the first 10 minutes I knew I would have to extend to 90 minutes and do two pops. As you say her FK is light. I guess that's a personal thing with each girl but I remember her Sumata was excellent. (Japanese almost sex technique where she slides her wet pussy lips along your cock oooh it was good). I am really glad to hear she's still bringing the GFE and has not hardened up. Congrats!
Actually u can see my review of her on 2/5/2018. Its great to see they keep all these reviews and they are straight up real.[/QUOTE]Have you tried any other THC girls that you would recommend if I liked Rina?
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Hey guys is THC recommend? Do they gave hot young women? What do you think?
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Very Expensive!
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2779699]There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of hotels scattered around Greater Tokyo.
3 Star hotels will have a modular shower toilet in the room, which will be very small; they are designed for sleeping, not entertaining. Many have rules about visitors. Prices will be around JPY10,000-20,000. Allow another 10,000 for food, transport, (non sexual) entertainment.
Using a Google search will bring up dozens of suitable locations.[/QUOTE]Thanks AussieGaigin for the info! Appreciate it!
Oh! Add another 30,000 to 40,000 JPY per day for sexual entertainment & we are looking at 60 to 70,000 JPY per day. Works out to roughly 3000 USD for a short 5 day stay. Very Expensive IMHO! But this is Japan. No thanks! I'd rather stick to Bangkok, much better VFM!
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A Couple Thoughts
[QUOTE=JL234;2779789]Have you tried any other THC girls that you would recommend if I liked Rina?[/QUOTE]I see Sumire is still there. She's prob def early thirty's these days but sexy AF. Def class act and very skilled. Here's my review from 2019:
Sumire is a wonderful lady -- not a girl like so many others, but a true lady of sophistication. She is your office lady fantasy girl. Her in room skills are unmatched and I've seen a few! From start to finish, including excellent bath prep and ending with a sensual CIM, she is a class act. Highly recommend.
Reviewed on 03/14/2019.
I see both Maiky and Sarah are also there. I have not personally sampled but friends recommended. (Again 2018 or 2019).
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[QUOTE=LonelyMonger30;2780056]Thanks AussieGaigin for the info! Appreciate it!
Oh! Add another 30,000 to 40,000 JPY per day for sexual entertainment & we are looking at 60 to 70,000 JPY per day. Works out to roughly 3000 USD for a short 5 day stay. Very Expensive IMHO! But this is Japan. No thanks! I'd rather stick to Bangkok, much better VFM![/QUOTE]Japan should not really be considered a "sex destination". Maybe have just one Y40,000+ soaplands encounter for the experience if you are visiting.
Plenty of amateur pussy around if you play your cards right. See the "NAMPA" thread.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2780135]I see Sumire is still there. She's prob def early thirty's these days but sexy AF. Def class act and very skilled. Here's my review from 2019:
Sumire is a wonderful lady -- not a girl like so many others, but a true lady of sophistication. She is your office lady fantasy girl. Her in room skills are unmatched and I've seen a few! From start to finish, including excellent bath prep and ending with a sensual CIM, she is a class act. Highly recommend.
Reviewed on 03/14/2019.
I see both Maiky and Sarah are also there. I have not personally sampled but friends recommended. (Again 2018 or 2019).[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot! I was eyeing her on the roster since she list anal as what she is willing to do. Hopefully I'll get a chance later this year if the stars align!
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THC Question
Has anyone seen Nikita or Aria at Tokyo Hentai Club before?
Curious on how the foreign girls are service wise at THC.
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[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2779793]Hey guys is THC recommend? Do they gave hot young women? What do you think?[/QUOTE]Check their website. I don't think it works w / VPN. Didn't on mine. I will post a review later. Used their service Jan 2023. Their best point easy to use for English speaker. Anal means anal. (not that I'm into that but another dude posted RTFF and you'll get what I'm saying) and if you go to their office you can see the unblurred photos of who is there. They do book up fast. When I was there they had maybe atleast 15 walkins at noon (I was only there to check it out), making appointments later, I think the first avail was 3 pm. You can see who is available and times on the main page of their website. (I think I forget which page exactly).
To answer your question: I think they do.
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Yoshiwara attempt 1
Yoshiwara Dec 30, 2022.
Stomping all around looking for Cream Lemon can't find it. Went into a couple places that were open, but they all had Japanese only sign. There was a place called Romantic County that did make a suggestion if I wanted and they walked me over there. Soap Lande Tokyo. That's not a spelling error they spell it like that LANDE. Address might be Taito KusenZoku 4-Chome 31-2. I was shown 3 girls photos, can't see face crappy photos. Guy suggest one girl says she's the youngest. Said 20 min wait. Quoted 46,000 for 80 min. I actually wanted longer but the fee was too high so went down in time. So I pay him the cash. He sits me in a back room that is pretty ratty. Although the New Year decorations were awesome! They had these big nice things up high on the wall for new years. I am offered a drink I take coke. I never drink when I'm at work. LOL. While I'm waiting another dude comes in Japanese older, not dressed up, he sits and waits. A young guy comes down from inside the bldg he looks at me so I nod my head down and ask him if he's been there before in my BAD Japanese. And he said it's his first time there and there are no girls and many places are closed because it's new years. His buddy comes down and they leave. The old dude goes in. Then a while later, I go in. The girl is waiting outside a door for me. She's dressed in regular clothes. Cute. We go into the room. She tells me, give her my coat. And that I can put my clothes in a box, like the kind they have at some restaurants for lady's purses that are usually under the table. So I strip and she strips and she has no tits but she's cute. She tells me she's 23. I hear noises from upstairs. She says it's a 2 story building but I don't know if there are more rooms for mongering upstairs. The hallway we were in had a few rooms. There is an inflatable mattress in the room. There is a good sized tub. She scrubs me, she has sort of run out of soap her containers are almost empty, wtf? Like I said this place is kinda run down. But ok She's young and Japanese or at least I think she is. So after washing she puts me in the tub and gives me the tooth brush, brand new out of those tear off wrappers that you get from the hotel. Then she makes me gargle a pretty good sized cup of that Iodine like stuff. I ask if I have to gargle all of it, she says at least ½. She also gargles with it in her cup. So she gets in the tub with me for a bit. Make out a little, she plays w / Jr. We get out of the tub. Water drains from her pussy which I thought was weird. But her pussy has seen better days, and doesn't smell tasty. So. Ie there is a odor, not bad but. But she did wash it prior. So to the play by play, we neck pretty good. And she is good looking. Not hot but I'd try her as a civilian. I play with her tiny tits. Very weird for me, those were the flattest I've ever played with. But now I know, for sure it's the pussy that matters LOL. A married old friend once asked me now wouldn't you rather have a tight pussy than big tits. And I had to think and then said yeah, you're right. I was just remembering an old lady that I did once that LOL. So this young girl wasn't ready for penetration and I ask her for gel or lube she doesn't have any and says just go slow. She already put on a cover. I wanted BB but she said no. And I was thinking maybe it's better that way because of the odor. LOL. So eventually we get up to ramming speed and it's pretty good but I can't cum because of the rubber. But it was good. Oh also might have been the Vitamin V. But overall I'm disappointed by the pricing and hotness equation but happy that I was able to find a place that accepted me. And the girl was young. But I was thinking this was a loser. Need to try again. Then I was wondering about the other girls that he offered that were older. I wonder if their prices would be the same. So I guess the question is, ASK all the questions! So 1) it might have been better to just get the shortest time and if the chick wasn't hot like in this case the cost / loss is minimal.
How I got to Yoshiwara, Minowa station and walked using the google app. There are cabs around. And that was how I got back to the train station via Taxi. 500 yen. I guess I should've caught a taxi there and just shown him the address for Cream Lemon.
Damn attachment file sizes too small.
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Hmm now I am not 100% sure Soap Lande Tokyo will take anyone or only if you can speak a bit of Japanese. But the desk guy's English was pretty good.
I included the other sign in case you can't find the first they can help you out.
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Sumire THC Report Out
[QUOTE=JL234;2781050]Thanks a lot! I was eyeing her on the roster since she list anal as what she is willing to do. Hopefully I'll get a chance later this year if the stars align![/QUOTE]Found my Sumire report out from two year ago. Great girl.
So our intrepid travelers were last seen in Paradise fully satisfied. Who could ask for more? Not Chris he is good for the day. But old Steve the horndog thinks he might go one more round. I'the been itching to try Lisa who is a lovely Blasian mix. But when we chat up Lyle at THC he says she can be a bit flaky on schedule and to avoid disappointment I might choose someone else. Actually this leads to an interesting conversation about the girls and their schedules. Most have some other job as well nurse, perfume clerk were a few he named. He knows them all like sisters, which makes him very good at his job.
It's for the best that Lisa might not work anyhow because I realize I am going to need a real pro on round 2 so looks need to come secondary I need service with a capital S. I ask Lyle to recommend top BJ girls and he cuts my list from 8 down to three. In the end I choose Sumire, who at age 30 has probably honed her craft. (Yep, got that right!) There is just something cute about her.
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=74[/URL]
So I pay up and set the date for later that night (the usual 30000 Y for a diamond CIM hour). Chris and I go to the Korean barbecue about a block away. Super epic beef. OMG it was awesome. And then to the Dubliner for warm up drinks. Jack and Coke. Of course. The Dubliner is literally 50 feet from THC Shibuya. So as the Blind Pig is to Manhattan in Shanghai so is the Dubliner to THC Shibuya.
About 5 minutes before the appointment I head over and wait a few for Sumire. I am pleasantly surprised. She is very attractive but in a lady-like way not like someone early 20's. She is wearing a business wool coat and suit outfit with a high end purse very classy. Think of doing the hot executive secretary and you've got Sumire. And unlike other girls who tend to walk maybe side by side with you to the hotel, she takes my arm and leans into me. Great indicator of the strong GFE to come.
It is a super busy night and we go to 5 different Love Hotels before we find a vacancy. And even then we have to get a deluxe suite at 7000 Y to secure a room. The room is in fact very nice with whirlpool tub with color changing lights and even a mini rubber dinghy if you wanted to go there. Even has a terrace, but we did not make use of it.
Whereas some girls want to head right to the showers, Sumire launches in to kissing me full on full clothed. I really like this as it's more realistic as you jointly shed clothes. She's a good kisser and I really enjoy this part, including unclipping her bra like you are on a first date. Now it gets a little interesting.
She produces the menu from THC and confirms I want CIM but asks if there is anything else I want. I decline. Well she is a determined girl. She starts kissing down my naked body and takes my hard dick and positions it just in front of her lips but not touching. She then takes the head and slides it in a circle around her mouth careful to not touch her lips. "Are you sure you don't want the instant blowjob?" (BJ without showering first = +3000 Y) Well shit no. Not now. I am no longer sure of anything except I want my cock in your mouth. So yes ma'am. Please I'll have the instant BJ, please. LOL.
This minor upsell is a little unfair, but I asked for a pro and I got one. This is all worth it in the end.
Clearly at this point the instant BJ is not going to make me cum but it's a great job and I am well warmed up. Off to the bath. She has cleverly already made a bubble bath and puts me in the jacuzzi as she prepares her version of mat play without the mat. After a nice soak she puts me on the little stool and gives every inch of me a thorough cleaning. She does some mat-like tricks like straddling your arm and sliding her pussy all the way down from shoulder to wrist. It is not Paradise, but it is by far the best bath prep I received this year at THC.
After bath prep it's off to the bed. To be honest I can recall all the details my eight girls this week are blending together a bit in a Jack and Coke haze. But here are some highlights.
1. Her pussy is ridiculously tight, particularly for a thirty year old. When she was blowing me and I stick my index finger in it didn't go quite all the way. She did like 25 pussy clenches on it in rapid succession and eventually it went in but holy cow it is tight and she can pussy clench like no ones business.
2. She must have done something right. I extended to 90 minutes.
3. First time ever got a bit of a Japanese AV star move. About 75 minutes in I blow my stack thanks to very impressive BJ skills. She keeps it in her mouth and then on her knees looking right at me, she puts her hand under her chin and let's all my cum drool down her lips and pool in her hand. Wow. Don't see that everyday!
Great attentive finishing shower and the walk back and Steve has one more experience in the rear view mirror.
High recommend on Sumire if you want a great GFE with a bit of PSE thrown in for good measure. Had a whale of a time! Would repeat.
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[QUOTE=IcyBlue;2779299]If it's your first time, I recommend Shibuya Seafari. It's foreigner friendly and offers a lot more.
[URL]https://www.shibuya-seafari.com/gal.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Basic or no Japanese ok for Shibuya Seafari? I know for sure that Jan Jan is almost no Japanese language required and I've gotten BBBJCIM there many times almost had FS at Jan Jan a few times way back in the day. LOL. Still my old school favorite spot for hot young girls and bare back BJ was Super Girls way back in like 2007!
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[QUOTE=Geescummy;2783296]Basic or no Japanese ok for Shibuya Seafari? I know for sure that Jan Jan is almost no Japanese language required and I've gotten BBBJCIM there many times almost had FS at Jan Jan a few times way back in the day. LOL. Still my old school favorite spot for hot young girls and bare back BJ was Super Girls way back in like 2007![/QUOTE]Being described as "foreigner friendly" is usually a good indication that Japanese skills are not required. Some places, acceptability may vary due to time of day, and the staff on duty.
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[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2783514]Being described as "foreigner friendly" is usually a good indication that Japanese skills are not required. Some places, acceptability may vary due to time of day, and the staff on duty.[/QUOTE]Right. Ok gotcha. Seems like it will be worth a try when I get out to Japan in May 2023.
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DH FS Advice
So I've got about a month away before I arrive in Tokyo, and I'm planning on booking one of THC's JAV escorts.
One upside I had was that I previously met this girl in Las Vegas at the 2017 AVN as a fan.
Given that DHs are explicitly non-FS, but in practice the girls can be more lenient in the room:
Should I discreetly give an extra tip (10 20 k yen) after a little foreplay, wait for some kind of signal from her, or should I politely ask after some playtime?
A lot of success in this is good chemistry, but since I don't use DH much what method might play best in this situation?
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[QUOTE=DdrSupnova;2789605]So I've got about a month away before I arrive in Tokyo, and I'm planning on booking one of THC's JAV escorts.
One upside I had was that I previously met this girl in Las Vegas at the 2017 AVN as a fan.
Given that DHs are explicitly non-FS, but in practice the girls can be more lenient in the room:
Should I discreetly give an extra tip (10 20 k yen) after a little foreplay, wait for some kind of signal from her, or should I politely ask after some playtime?
A lot of success in this is good chemistry, but since I don't use DH much what method might play best in this situation?[/QUOTE]No don't discreetly give extra money without clarifying what you want first (behind closed doors, after meeting). Don't fight the answer whatever it may be, obviously. If the girl has AF listed on her profile, if you pay that you can probably just ask for FS instead of anal and there's a decent chance she's ok with it. Again, nothing is ever guaranteed. Some girls are strict anal only even in those cases. Oh and don't go off telling people if you had success, that will only piss off the shop and others generally which can fuck things up for other foreigners in general.
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[QUOTE=QCryptic;2789883]No don't discreetly give extra money without clarifying what you want first (behind closed doors, after meeting). Don't fight the answer whatever it may be, obviously. If the girl has AF listed on her profile, if you pay that you can probably just ask for FS instead of anal and there's a decent chance she's ok with it. Again, nothing is ever guaranteed. Some girls are strict anal only even in those cases. Oh and don't go off telling people if you had success, that will only piss off the shop and others generally which can fuck things up for other foreigners in general.[/QUOTE]Ok, I'll keep that in mind to be clear. I'the never push back a 'no' answer because I know that's an east way to get banned. I certainly would not broadcast the result here as well.
Appreciate the advice.
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NN / NS experience in Tokyo Feb,2023
I was on the way to why shirto watashi soap in yoshiwara, staff from idol kenkyusei flagged me down and said new inexperienced only 20 years are in this shop and welcome me in. There were a manager in suit and a younger male staff with boxer cauliflower ears and painted nails. They took my information (name, dob, phone, email) to register and they found out that I'm a foreigner then they did narrow down the photo cards to 3 instead of 11. I picked 70 minutes course with otowa because of her tits size. The shop is really new and I can still smell the chemical paint from the wall. The waiting room is very spacious for Tokyo. Staff advised me to use google translate to download and gave me Wi-Fi password. Going Skin is okay and 70 minutes course is only for one pop and 100 minutes is for two pops and 10 minutes later the girl picked me up and went up the steps to the third floor. She is not fat but chubby to the point that two lines of belly fat that prevented her to properly put knee up to the chin positions during play. Big tits, pink nipple, piepan girl who smiles a lot. She said she's in community college version of Japan and wanted to do this work but had to wait until her 20 birthday. The play was rich and she didn't deny any of my request except mat play because she just doesn't know how to do it. She allowed me to sprayed twice inside her. On the way down, staff told me to write a review in city-heaven for her and the shop.
Another girl is asahi from dolce. 23 years old, tan skin, long hair, very skinny, flat chest (A cup maybe), piepan with the face of Jenny black pink. She gave me a horrible BJ with folding her lips in to avoid touching my head with her tongue. Later she noticed I got hard and she applied lube on her kitty and just lay on the bed like a starfish and not reaching for rubber under the tower. I just went inside. The play was challenging because her body is so thin and I couldn't penetrate all the way. So I put her stay on all four on her school desk and went in from behind. She screamed out really out every time in went in. I sprayed inside as well and she didn't mind. She said she's on medication. The place charged gaijin tax and nomination fee although I did not make an appointment.
Other two girls are ex darling harbor girls from why shirto yatashi, marina and ootar. No gaijin tax but minimum 60 minutes course and for mat play 70 minutes course. Marina san is over 30 very tan lady with long back (170 tall but not her long legs) , be cup with a Bush between her legs. Ootar San is 25, short a little chubby with big tits and piepan and fair skin. They both provided rich service with raw and spray on belly when finishing. I wanted time extension but they both said foreigners are not allowed to order that and also no appointments. Marina said she can request through her line but customer will need to call the store again with Japanese land line to confirm on the date.
Another raw deriheru places are Yes women in nippori and new syndrome in uguisudani.
Yes women is Thai shop but they also have two Japanese girl but they are chubby. Thai girls are on two week visa and a new squad changes every two weeks. You can stay at nippori bee girl hotel and order them. Hotel prices go up after 5 pm.
New syndrome is Korean shop but they also have Japanese girl. Raw is on the table and some of them do instant play right in front of the door before shower. Regular course is for one pop and vip is for 2 pops. Most of the Korean girls are in mid 30 to 45 on short stay as well and they do rush the service. Store will charge extra if you order outside of their delivery area.
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Having to give such personal "personal details" to an unknown shop seems very risky?
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[QUOTE=CWilly;2793745]I was on the way to why shirto watashi soap in yoshiwara, staff from idol kenkyusei flagged me down and said new inexperienced only 20 years are in this shop and welcome me in. There were a manager in suit and a younger male staff with boxer cauliflower ears and painted nails. They took my information (name, dob, phone, email) to register and they found out that I'm a foreigner then they did narrow down the photo cards to 3 instead of 11. I picked 70 minutes course with otowa because of her tits size. The shop is really new and I can still smell the chemical paint from the wall. The waiting room is very spacious for Tokyo. Staff advised me to use google translate to download and gave me Wi-Fi password. Going Skin is okay and 70 minutes course is only for one pop and 100 minutes is for two pops and 10 minutes later the girl picked me up and went up the steps to the third floor. She is not fat but chubby to the point that two lines of belly fat that prevented her to properly put knee up to the chin positions during play. Big tits, pink nipple, piepan girl who smiles a lot. She said she's in community college version of Japan and wanted to do this work but had to wait until her 20 birthday. The play was rich and she didn't deny any of my request except mat play because she just doesn't know how to do it. She allowed me to sprayed twice inside her. On the way down, staff told me to write a review in city-heaven for her and the shop.
Another girl is asahi from dolce. 23 years old, tan skin, long hair, very skinny, flat chest (A cup maybe), piepan with the face of Jenny black pink. She gave me a horrible BJ with folding her lips in to avoid touching my head with her tongue. Later she noticed I got hard and she applied lube on her kitty and just lay on the bed like a starfish and not reaching for rubber under the tower. I just went inside. The play was challenging because her body is so thin and I couldn't penetrate all the way. So I put her stay on all four on her school desk and went in from behind. She screamed out really out every time in went in. I sprayed inside as well and she didn't mind. She said she's on medication. The place charged gaijin tax and nomination fee although I did not make an appointment.
Other two girls are ex darling harbor girls from why shirto yatashi, marina and ootar. No gaijin tax but minimum 60 minutes course and for mat play 70 minutes course. Marina san is over 30 very tan lady with long back (170 tall but not her long legs) , be cup with a Bush between her legs. Ootar San is 25, short a little chubby with big tits and piepan and fair skin. They both provided rich service with raw and spray on belly when finishing. I wanted time extension but they both said foreigners are not allowed to order that and also no appointments. Marina said she can request through her line but customer will need to call the store again with Japanese land line to confirm on the date.
Another raw deriheru places are Yes women in nippori and new syndrome in uguisudani.
Yes women is Thai shop but they also have two Japanese girl but they are chubby. Thai girls are on two week visa and a new squad changes every two weeks. You can stay at nippori bee girl hotel and order them. Hotel prices go up after 5 pm.
New syndrome is Korean shop but they also have Japanese girl. Raw is on the table and some of them do instant play right in front of the door before shower. Regular course is for one pop and vip is for 2 pops. Most of the Korean girls are in mid 30 to 45 on short stay as well and they do rush the service. Store will charge extra if you order outside of their delivery area.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, but you forget to tell us the prices.
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[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2793893]Having to give such personal "personal details" to an unknown shop seems very risky?[/QUOTE]It's a new shop. So they probably want to get more customers and also easier for the girls to communicate if they know customer details such as Mr. Watanabe from saitama age 40. Cream lemon made me fill up the survey forms every time after the session three years ago. Some shops ask customers what they are liked to be called such as boss, big brother, senior, etc.
I paid 25 k for 70 min at Idol. 25 k for 60 min at dolce. 21 k for 70 At why shirto. 15 k for 80 min at Thai and 30 k for 90 min at Korean deriheru. How many shots you can pop is depending on the girls decision. Foreigners aren't allowed to used coupons for discounts or pick minimum time course. You can cancel or change another girl at deriheru calls when girls arrive at the hotel fire they take off their clothing.
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Dear all,
Does anyone know what is the extra to pay at THC for AF? Do the girls usually mind about the size, if it is large?
Thanks!
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Last prices
[QUOTE=Rankine;2794892]Dear all,
Does anyone know what is the extra to pay at THC for AF? Do the girls usually mind about the size, if it is large?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Last I was there (3 years ago) it was 20000 ₯. Or about $200.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2794911]Last I was there (3 years ago) it was 20000 . Or about $200.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your reply. Is that on top of the usual price? It is quite pricey.
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Rose THC
Ex THC European girl Rose I met back in 2018 is doing jav again. She did uncensored version in 2021 but now she has two uncensored leaked jav with beast of fuck studio.
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Soapland for Foreigner
Hi all,
In Tokyo for a couple of weeks and always wanted to try a soapland. Are there any good ones for a first timer with no Japanese?
Went to THC on Tuesday and had a great time. I was so impressed I could not remember the ladies name.
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Raven3130;2796365]Hi all,
In Tokyo for a couple of weeks and always wanted to try a soapland. Are there any good ones for a first timer with no Japanese?
Went to THC on Tuesday and had a great time. I was so impressed I could not remember the ladies name.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Use the search thread function here for soapland.
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[QUOTE=Raven3130;2796365]Hi all,
In Tokyo for a couple of weeks and always wanted to try a soapland. Are there any good ones for a first timer with no Japanese?
Went to THC on Tuesday and had a great time. I was so impressed I could not remember the ladies name.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]It will be tough if you can't hold a conversation in Japanese. Choices for you will be very few. Go to information center in Yoshiwara and ask for girls and shops for foreigners without language skill. You can also go to Dolce for under 25 and Sweet kiss for under 35 years old ladies but store manager will only show you one or two pictures to choose from. Service maybe mechanical and starfish response. Friday Saturday Sunday are off limit for foreigners. All the shops are filled with local Japanese.
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[QUOTE=CWilly;2795624]Ex THC European girl Rose I met back in 2018 is doing jav again. She did uncensored version in 2021 but now she has two uncensored leaked jav with beast of fuck studio.[/QUOTE]Any tips on where and / or how to find this video? I remember seeing Rose on the roster. She looked amazing.
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Where is yes women located? I tried to google but couldn't find any massage shops in nippori with the name. TIA.
[QUOTE=CWilly;2793745]Yes women is Thai shop but they also have two Japanese girl but they are chubby. Thai girls are on two week visa and a new squad changes every two weeks. You can stay at nippori bee girl hotel and order them. Hotel prices go up after 5 pm.[/QUOTE]
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Hotel reccomendations for THC outcalls?
I'm going to be in tokyo for a week on business and plan on checking out THC, outbound calls in particular. I don't really like incalls.
Does anyone have any girl friendly hotel recommendations in shinjuku?
Been to thailand a few times and 95% of all hotels there are girl friendly but in tijuana the better hotels.
Require you to personally sign girls in and I find that a hassle.
Only alternative I can think of is going with an airbnb but their fees are getting higher and higher and I'd like to avoid that route if necessary.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2782838]Found my Sumire report out from two year ago. Great girl.
So our intrepid travelers were last seen in Paradise fully satisfied. Who could ask for more? Not Chris he is good for the day. But old Steve the horndog thinks he might go one more round. I'the been itching to try Lisa who is a lovely Blasian mix. But when we chat up Lyle at THC he says she can be a bit flaky on schedule and to avoid disappointment I might choose someone else. Actually this leads to an interesting conversation about the girls and their schedules. Most have some other job as well nurse, perfume clerk were a few he named. He knows them all like sisters, which makes him very good at his job.
It's for the best that Lisa might not work anyhow because I realize I am going to need a real pro on round 2 so looks need to come secondary I need service with a capital S. I ask Lyle to recommend top BJ girls and he cuts my list from 8 down to three. In the end I choose Sumire, who at age 30 has probably honed her craft. (Yep, got that right!) There is just something cute about her.
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=74[/URL]
So I pay up and set the date for later that night (the usual 30000 Y for a diamond CIM hour). Chris and I go to the Korean barbecue about a block away. Super epic beef. OMG it was awesome. And then to the Dubliner for warm up drinks. Jack and Coke. Of course. The Dubliner is literally 50 feet from THC Shibuya. So as the Blind Pig is to Manhattan in Shanghai so is the Dubliner to THC Shibuya.
About 5 minutes before the appointment I head over and wait a few for Sumire. I am pleasantly surprised. She is very attractive but in a lady-like way not like someone early 20's. She is wearing a business wool coat and suit outfit with a high end purse very classy. Think of doing the hot executive secretary and you've got Sumire. And unlike other girls who tend to walk maybe side by side with you to the hotel, she takes my arm and leans into me. Great indicator of the strong GFE to come.
It is a super busy night and we go to 5 different Love Hotels before we find a vacancy. And even then we have to get a deluxe suite at 7000 Y to secure a room. The room is in fact very nice with whirlpool tub with color changing lights and even a mini rubber dinghy if you wanted to go there. Even has a terrace, but we did not make use of it.
Whereas some girls want to head right to the showers, Sumire launches in to kissing me full on full clothed. I really like this as it's more realistic as you jointly shed clothes. She's a good kisser and I really enjoy this part, including unclipping her bra like you are on a first date. Now it gets a little interesting.
She produces the menu from THC and confirms I want CIM but asks if there is anything else I want. I decline. Well she is a determined girl. She starts kissing down my naked body and takes my hard dick and positions it just in front of her lips but not touching. She then takes the head and slides it in a circle around her mouth careful to not touch her lips. "Are you sure you don't want the instant blowjob?" (BJ without showering first = +3000 Y) Well shit no. Not now. I am no longer sure of anything except I want my cock in your mouth. So yes ma'am. Please I'll have the instant BJ, please. LOL.
This minor upsell is a little unfair, but I asked for a pro and I got one. This is all worth it in the end.
Clearly at this point the instant BJ is not going to make me cum but it's a great job and I am well warmed up. Off to the bath. She has cleverly already made a bubble bath and puts me in the jacuzzi as she prepares her version of mat play without the mat. After a nice soak she puts me on the little stool and gives every inch of me a thorough cleaning. She does some mat-like tricks like straddling your arm and sliding her pussy all the way down from shoulder to wrist. It is not Paradise, but it is by far the best bath prep I received this year at THC.
After bath prep it's off to the bed. To be honest I can recall all the details my eight girls this week are blending together a bit in a Jack and Coke haze. But here are some highlights.
1. Her pussy is ridiculously tight, particularly for a thirty year old. When she was blowing me and I stick my index finger in it didn't go quite all the way. She did like 25 pussy clenches on it in rapid succession and eventually it went in but holy cow it is tight and she can pussy clench like no ones business.
2. She must have done something right. I extended to 90 minutes.
3. First time ever got a bit of a Japanese AV star move. About 75 minutes in I blow my stack thanks to very impressive BJ skills. She keeps it in her mouth and then on her knees looking right at me, she puts her hand under her chin and let's all my cum drool down her lips and pool in her hand. Wow. Don't see that everyday!
Great attentive finishing shower and the walk back and Steve has one more experience in the rear view mirror.
High recommend on Sumire if you want a great GFE with a bit of PSE thrown in for good measure. Had a whale of a time! Would repeat.[/QUOTE]Thank you Steve and other reporters contributing to the thread about THC. I didn't catch the reviews at first when I first glanced through this past weekend, using Hentai as the search word. Long story short, I am a monger in Honolulu and will be traveling to Tokyo for a trip in the coming months. I mongered in Okinawa before with so-so experience in Yoshihara but from what I've seen, THC seems to be the smoking spot for us gaijin. Like Holy Fucking Damn. I was a bit confused about the vaginal intercourse and BJ / HJ only deal but figured out which up-sell code was the indicator for a guaranteed dick in pussy fuck. As also reported YMMV.
Honolulu used to be a really smoking spot for the AMP scene but those glory days are long gone and now most of the providers are older Korean women late 40's up, which I actually don't mind. Tho some are reported to be in GILF territory. The young Chinese ones are all overpriced with hit or miss service. But back to Tokyo, I booked my hotel in the Ginza area but now after discovering THC, I will be changing my stay to Shinjuku just to be closer to the in-call (had a embarrassing expience trying to sneak a escort into a business hotel in Okinawa where the staff caught me). What was originally intended to be a casual first trip to the world's Megacity has now changed to be a epic mongering escapade. Can't wait!
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THC Incall Rules
[QUOTE=Crow00;2797751]I'm going to be in tokyo for a week on business and plan on checking out THC, outbound calls in particular. I don't really like incalls.
Does anyone have any girl friendly hotel recommendations in shinjuku?
Been to thailand a few times and 95% of all hotels there are girl friendly but in tijuana the better hotels.
Require you to personally sign girls in and I find that a hassle.
Only alternative I can think of is going with an airbnb but their fees are getting higher and higher and I'd like to avoid that route if necessary.[/QUOTE]You may be turned off by incall other places, which I can understand. But incall with THC is part of the fun. You meet your girl at THC AR the appointed time and walk hand in hand to the Love Hotel. I find it fun and romantic to find a hotel with a girl. And the love motels aren't seedy bedbug places. They are well oiled for this industry. Anyhow I love it and you might give it a shot.
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[QUOTE=Eblit26;2797498]Any tips on where and / or how to find this video? I remember seeing Rose on the roster. She looked amazing.[/QUOTE]I wrote two movies ID. Those are fc2 ppv. But admin edited and removed them. I don't think they want me to put movie ID or links. You can find on missav and type in keywords foreigner, rose. Eastern European girl Rose used to work at miss universe also were a blonde deriheru that only serve Japanese. A chubby Aussie girl with shirt blond hair used to work there too. They all charged 20 k for AF but it really is a h**ban play and also 10 k for video shoot.
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[QUOTE=Mgkckr;2797642]Where is yes women located? I tried to google but couldn't find any massage shops in nippori with the name. TIA.[/QUOTE]It's an online deriheru shop. They make the girls wait at McDonald or nearby coffee shop around nippori love hotels and dispatch them to customer. They charged 3 k delivery fee if you order outside of nippori. You can also find the store in deriheru database. You will see girls roster and available time. If you are not good with computer go to nippori hotel bee girl and tell front desk lady that you want to order Thai deriheru. She will give you multiple shops with phone number. If you are calling from hotel's land line, put zero in front of the phone number.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2797950]You may be turned off by incall other places, which I can understand. But incall with THC is part of the fun. You meet your girl at THC AR the appointed time and walk hand in hand to the Love Hotel. I find it fun and romantic to find a hotel with a girl. And the love motels aren't seedy bedbug places. They are well oiled for this industry. Anyhow I love it and you might give it a shot.[/QUOTE]Yes Incall are cheaper too and just go to love hotel. Japanese girl like to squirt like a whale and it is better to rent hourly at love hotel not your actual hotel. You don't need to clean up later. LH charged extra at evening time and if they're will be more than two people in a room.
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Gotcha thanks. Last q, are they English friendly (both the shop and hotel)?
[QUOTE=CWilly;2798107]It's an online deriheru shop. They make the girls wait at McDonald or nearby coffee shop around nippori love hotels and dispatch them to customer. They charged 3 k delivery fee if you order outside of nippori. You can also find the store in deriheru database. You will see girls roster and available time. If you are not good with computer go to nippori hotel bee girl and tell front desk lady that you want to order Thai deriheru. She will give you multiple shops with phone number. If you are calling from hotel's land line, put zero in front of the phone number.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mgkckr;2798345]Gotcha thanks. Last q, are they English friendly (both the shop and hotel)?[/QUOTE]Are you referring to the language or person from England? For language, I used Japanese. It's not that challenging. If you know how to book reservations for dinner at restaurants, you can order the same ways. Have you have experience with delivery health service?
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I'm going to be in Tokyo for a week on business and plan on checking out THC, outbound calls in particular. I don't really like incalls.
Does anyone have any girl friendly hotel recommendations in Shinjuku?
Been to Thailand a few times and 95% of all hotels there are girl friendly but in Tijuana the better hotels.
Require you to personally sign girls in and I find that a hassle.
Only alternative I can think of is going with an Airbnb but their fees are getting higher and higher and I'd like to avoid that route if necessary.
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Lool, english speaking, not from england. I have yeah, but the ones I've used always had an english site and I would use english. Ok good to know japanese is needed, thanks!
[QUOTE=CWilly;2798367]Are you referring to the language or person from England? For language, I used Japanese. It's not that challenging. If you know how to book reservations for dinner at restaurants, you can order the same ways. Have you have experience with delivery health service?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=CWilly;2798104]I wrote two movies ID. Those are fc2 ppv. But admin edited and removed them. I don't think they want me to put movie ID or links. You can find on missav and type in keywords foreigner, rose. Eastern European girl Rose used to work at miss universe also were a blonde deriheru that only serve Japanese. A chubby Aussie girl with shirt blond hair used to work there too. They all charged 20 k for AF but it really is a h**ban play and also 10 k for video shoot.[/QUOTE]Hot dang, thanks buddy! She's a smoke show, its too bad she's no longer at THC.
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Recent THC incall
I had an incall a few weeks ago with one of the young, tiny Silver girls at Tokyo Hentai Club. I'll leave her name out of this post for reasons that will be self explanatory as you read on. It was my first booking the HTC and I made the booking with cash in person the night before. They told me repeatedly P4 P sex is illegal and off the table. I paid ₯35,000 (32,000 for the incall 90 minutes plus 3,000 for CIM, which is needed if you enjoy BBBJ).
The girl was okay. Not the best face, I liked her bod and outfit though. Paid ₯5,500 for the Love Hotel room. After the foreplay she was sliding on top of me and then says "I really like you. Let's do something special. A secret menu. " The secret menu was ₯40,000 for CFS, ₯50,000 for BBFS, and ₯70,000 for BBFSCIP. I had no delusions about being a "special" customer and assume she offers this to plenty of guys. Not worth the health risk or the money.
I had two pops during my 90 minutes, with the last one being CIM. Her BJ skills were horrible though, and she didn't take much more than the tip in her mouth. Doubt I will repeat with THC next time I'm in Tokyo. Better off saving my money for better mongering prices elsewhere around the globe.
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[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2799420]The secret menu was 40,000 for CFS, 50,000 for BBFS, and 70,000 for BBFSCIP. [/QUOTE]Those prices are ridiculous LOL. I wonder how much actually pay it. I guess only guys interested in BBFS would do that since options there are more limited.
With those prices tho you can do so much more.
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[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2799420]I had an incall a few weeks ago with one of the young, tiny Silver girls at Tokyo Hentai Club. I'll leave her name out of this post for reasons that will be self explanatory as you read on. It was my first booking the HTC and I made the booking with cash in person the night before. They told me repeatedly P4 P sex is illegal and off the table. I paid 35,000 (32,000 for the incall 90 minutes plus 3,000 for CIM, which is needed if you enjoy BBBJ).
The girl was okay. Not the best face, I liked her bod and outfit though. Paid 5,500 for the Love Hotel room. After the foreplay she was sliding on top of me and then says "I really like you. Let's do something special. A secret menu. " The secret menu was 40,000 for CFS, 50,000 for BBFS, and 70,000 for BBFSCIP. I had no delusions about being a "special" customer and assume she offers this to plenty of guys. Not worth the health risk or the money.
I had two pops during my 90 minutes, with the last one being CIM. Her BJ skills were horrible though, and she didn't take much more than the tip in her mouth. Doubt I will repeat with THC next time I'm in Tokyo. Better off saving my money for better mongering prices elsewhere around the globe.[/QUOTE]Almost exact same experience but she wasn't tiny. Maybe 5'4" 115 lbs, nice US see-cup but slender overall. Talked her down to 25,000 and the second time she just climbed on me without a condom. Got her direct line so may repeat but for being so damn hot, she didn't kiss well, did the fake orgasm thing constantly, and tried to kegel my dick off thinking it would speed things up (Narrator: It didn't).
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Mixed messages
I'm a bit confused about the whole no sex thing. Some users here write about actually fucking a girl in one of these establishments, while others get no penetration service and seem to be satisfied with that. So how do I make sure I get the real thing? I read here that I should choose the ansl option but fuck her in the pussy instead.
I'm just worried I'll blow a good amount of money on a place like THC and not actually fuck the girl. Any advice?
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[QUOTE=Yznem;2801091]I'm a bit confused about the whole no sex thing. Some users here write about actually fucking a girl in one of these establishments, while others get no penetration service and seem to be satisfied with that. So how do I make sure I get the real thing? I read here that I should choose the ansl option but fuck her in the pussy instead.
I'm just worried I'll blow a good amount of money on a place like THC and not actually fuck the girl. Any advice?[/QUOTE]I'm on the same boat. I've gone to Bangkok several times and always know I'll get what I pay for. I'd be pissed spending several thousands on transportation, accommodation, and.
Several hundred on a girl only to be told no fucking.
As far as I can tell, officially there is no penetration since it's illegal, but SOME girls will go FS. At least by what others have reported. Idk what girls go FS but.
I don't like have to basically have a 50/50 chance of paying several hundred for a handjob.
Can anyone with THC experience chime in?
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[QUOTE=Crow00;2798439]I'm going to be in Tokyo for a week on business and plan on checking out THC, outbound calls in particular. I don't really like incalls.
Does anyone have any girl friendly hotel recommendations in Shinjuku?
Been to Thailand a few times and 95% of all hotels there are girl friendly but in Tijuana the better hotels.
Require you to personally sign girls in and I find that a hassle.
Only alternative I can think of is going with an Airbnb but their fees are getting higher and higher and I'd like to avoid that route if necessary.[/QUOTE]Any 4 or 5 star hotel should be girl friendly if you book a double room. Look for some of the international chains.
3 star business hotels often have "rules" about visitors.
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Tokyo / Japan is not a sex destination like Bangkok / Thailand or other parts of Asia. Don't go there expecting the same levels of experience.
Prostitution is illegal in Japan, so there is a higher price for access; more so for foreigners.
Advertising AF is legal, due to a loophole in the law, but I doubt the cops are going to bust into rooms to see which hole you stick your dick into, if the girl is willing.
Perhaps try one of the escort agencies like Tokyo Mystique where you are guaranteed success.
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[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2801492]Tokyo / Japan is not a sex destination like Bangkok / Thailand or other parts of Asia. Don't go there expecting the same levels of experience.
Prostitution is illegal in Japan, so there is a higher price for access; more so for foreigners.
Advertising AF is legal, due to a loophole in the law, but I doubt the cops are going to bust into rooms to see which hole you stick your dick into, if the girl is willing.
Perhaps try one of the escort agencies like Tokyo Mystique where you are guaranteed success.[/QUOTE]Sorry, the place is Asian Mystique.
There is a book of the same name, supposedly an insight to the sex industry in Asia.
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[QUOTE=Yznem;2801091]I'm a bit confused about the whole no sex thing. Some users here write about actually fucking a girl in one of these establishments, while others get no penetration service and seem to be satisfied with that. So how do I make sure I get the real thing? I read here that I should choose the ansl option but fuck her in the pussy instead.
I'm just worried I'll blow a good amount of money on a place like THC and not actually fuck the girl. Any advice?[/QUOTE]That's just how it is in Japan. If you want something more guaranteed then go to a soapland or find an independent girl. With THC specifically though if they are a diamond tier girl they will probably offer FS behind closed doors. But you start getting into price territories that are ridiculous in my opinion.
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[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2801752]Sorry, the place is Asian Mystique.
There is a book of the same name, supposedly an insight to the sex industry in Asia.[/QUOTE]I have never to Asian Mystique but I heard they have older ladies.
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[QUOTE=Yznem;2801091]I'm a bit confused about the whole no sex thing. Some users here write about actually fucking a girl in one of these establishments, while others get no penetration service and seem to be satisfied with that. So how do I make sure I get the real thing? I read here that I should choose the ansl option but fuck her in the pussy instead.
I'm just worried I'll blow a good amount of money on a place like THC and not actually fuck the girl. Any advice?[/QUOTE]Sometime, it doesn't necessarily need to be get inside the hole. Try sumata. It's actually feel good if you are with the right girl who knows what she's doing. Fucking thighs, tits, arm pits, butt cheeks feel good too.
A long pre warm up session to begin with DFK, groping the body, BJ and ending with sumata fuck is the new amazing pleasure that Japanese invented. The feeling is so rich. Try it out.
Girls with S&M club working experience are another good option. Some J girl has A great teaser skill with good attacking from top.
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Shady motion? Any experiences so far?
New agency shady motion seem quite active on social media with some very pretty girls, but has anyone got any experience of using them yet? I'm a regular with THC, but haven't seen much about SM yet.
Anyone used them?
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[QUOTE=CWilly;2802065]I have never to Asian Mystique but I heard they have older ladies.[/QUOTE]If you looked instead of just listening, you'll find girls from 20 to 40 on the roster. Remember that older girls will probably provide a more expert service.
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Good trip
I just returned from a 3 week trip to Japan. Spent 2 weeks in Tokyo and 1 in Fukuoka. I read this thread before the trip and it helped so returning the favor. The not getting FS worried me. However, I was able get FS 4 of 4 tries. I used these 3 sites to find foreign friendly providers.
[URL]https://chn.cityheaven.net/en/[/URL]
[URL]https://eroticguide.tokyo/area/shinjuku/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.japan-escort.net/arealist/metoropolitanarea[/URL]
I was limited to incalls unfortunately. I speak a little Japanese but it's very basic and not fluent at all. In Shibuya I saw two girls from Tokyo Amateur Escort [URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/home.php[/URL].
I tried THC first but found out the closed the Shibuya location and only are located in Shinjuku. Sent TAE a text with What's App confirmed the time, service and girl for the next day. Picked Miwa Hirai. Nice young girl with a nice slender body, be cup naturals and decently attractive face. She spoke basic English and communication was no problem. Found the location next to the love hotel using google maps. Helps to review web site as it had good direction and photos. Japanese man gave direction in English to love hotel next door, collected my fee plus called the hotel so they knew I was coming. Got to the hotel and paid for room 3000 yen. Service was the flat 17000 + selection fee of 2000 yen for 50 minutes. Miwa knocked on the door 5 minutes after I arrived. The way I approached the meeting was to have fun with the girl doing non-FS stuff and if I popped great if not I would ask for FS to see what happened. Had a good start after the shower DFK, BBBJ, DATY, FIV. Did a long BBBJ hoping that would do it but for me I usually pop only with FS. So after getting her gushing with FIV and DATY asked if I could fuck her. At first she said no and I said what about a tip say $20000 yen. She said sure but with condom. She applied a condom she had and away we went. Overall I had a great time and I left happy.
Since it was good tried again with same agency and picked Ruri. Same deal 22000 yen with fee and room. Was a little disappointed this time as she was much thicker than the photos, face was very plain and she had bad breath. Miwa had us both do mouth wash and I hoped that was going to happen but did not. So no DFK, haha. I took same approach as with Miwa. Asked for FS after trying to get off with BBBJ. This time offered 10000 yen as if she turned me down no big deal. She accepted and yep she started to jump on junior BBFS. I asked for rubber she put it on and the rest is history. She was actually not bad in doggy as she had some cushion for the pushin.
I moved my location to Okubo, which is by Shinjuku so I next hit up The Hentai Club THC. Easy set up but I waited too long and Yoshika was booked along with some of the other diamonds. May have been a good thing as sounds like those pros charge and arm and a leg for FS. Went with Lisa silver level liked her petite slender frame. The face is always a crap shoot on what you get so at least I tried to get a body style I like, I. E. Petite spinner. The THC process was the same as TAE other than Lisa meeting me at the agency and we walked together to the love hotel. Paid 25000 yen for 60 minutes as the hotel was more. Lisa's body was great about 5 feet slender, almost no breast though but nice little ass. Face was older than the pics but still decent. Same routine and approach. OMG she has the smallest pussy I have encountered. While doing DATY I inserted a finger and when she was good and moist tried a second but it was a no go as she was too small. She advertises anal and can understand why if some large foreign guy tried to fuck her small pussy. In this case I am lucky to be average sized. Lisa was good DFK, BBBJ, DATY, FIV. Asked for FS and she said yes for a tip. She never made an offer on how much. She applied the condom and did some more BJ to get junior wet. I took it slow for the first 5 minutes to ease into things. Did mish for a while and added lub and switched to k9. Great view, she has some cool Japanese style tats on her back and hip. Didn't last long and popped in the bag. I ended up paying her 10000 yen for FS, she was good with it.
My best experience was in Fukuoka at a Nakasu soapland. Very hot lady and great time was had for 33000. I won't go into it as this is a Tokyo thread. Overall, good time and usually around 33000 yen with today's exchange rate that is about 280 dollars. Would have liked to have tried a Yoshiwara soapland but did not have the chance. I hope this helps others.
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THC questions
It's been years since I have been in Tokyo moving back next month. Many years ago I used to to use Asian Mistque when they first started. Now I noticed they have really older girls there. So saw THC noticed they have JAV stars is there a way to see the their stage name to see the videos they have made. I saw someone post about a Rose. But search rose JAV doesn't really yeild any results. Was just curious of anyone had figured it out or could tell me how to do it.
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Jan Jan Pink Salon
Thanks for the info guys. Right on. There are technically two Sugamo Stations. One for the Mita Line and the other for the Yamanote Line. Jan Jan is across from the Yamanote Line train station.
Don't knock the old ladies and I think you mean early 40's which you will be someday. LOL They know how to suck some dick. Way better than all of the BJ bar chicks in BKK whose ages are all over the place.
Found the place easily due to previous posts. No one outside. Guy downstairs charges me 4000 even though I have the 2000 coupon and the door says 3000 but I get it, so I instantly pay. He has the attitude of an LA pool hall operator. Not bad but not warm. He shows me to a seat / booth.
It is really dark in there. Your eyes barely adjust after several minutes. The booths are low so when I walk by the first booth, I can make out a woman going to town on a guy. The booth in front of me is also occupied and that woman is going at it as well. She is making some serious slurping noises. I sit down and it is so depraved, I instantly start getting hard. I am listening to the woman moan behind me and the woman slurping in front and have to start working my rising cock. I figure, "I don't care how old the woman is in front, I hope I get her. " If you are one to bring your hot S lut wife to a porn theater/swing club and get off on her sucking your dick and every other dick in front of her, You will love this place. My wife would love this place. LOL I wonder whether they allow women / couples?
I sit there for several minutes, maybe 10 min. There are loud endings to the booths in front and back. While waiting, I have gotten a look at some of the women (without moving my head around) and they are 30-40 but I would let them all suck my dick all day. The slurpper is definitely in her 40's but I am still hoping she is my woman. I would say she is the oldest. She has that look about her that says Professional Cocksucker. Lucky me, I get her. I will stop the story here because I am not aware of the official rules in Tokyo and don't want to blow up any spot. I will just say, I am going back tomorrow and if you are into seedy places. You should try it.
This place is busy like a train station. There were at least two other gaijan while I was there and several Japanese men so getting in is not a problem. Nice neighborhood also. Easy to get to.
[b]It looked like there were some other pink salons there. Any info anyone?[/b]
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2777064][URL]https://janjan-sugamo.com/[/URL]
Jan Jan is in a small alley just in front of Sugamo Station South Exit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JL234;2776678]Finally back after several years of being kept out.
Hit up Jan Jan on my first night back at around 6-7 PM. Got lucky and scored a girl who looked to be in her early to mid 30's at latest. Nice pair of boobs and generally nice. I feel I always get lucky to not get stuck with a really old granny here so far over the years. Price was 4000. Looks like I will keep repeating in future...
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Planning the trip
So I'm going to Tokyo in two months, thereby fulfilling my long-standing dream.
I'm prospecting on Tinder to see what the atmosphere there is like to find someone to spend a good time with during my stay. One curious thing I noticed is this: many girls there link to their Twitter, and on Twitter they unambiguously hint on meeting up for sex. E. g.
[URL]https://twitter.com/esar6[/URL]
[URL]https://twitter.com/lepotint[/URL]
[URL]https://twitter.com/21Mei[/URL]
But they seem to position themselves as girls who help virgins get confidence and experience their first time. They don't say directly they are escorts.
Does anyone know what it is? Are those girls escorts or are they simply having fun?
Also, does anyone have any feedback on dating apps in Japan, do they work for short-term / one-night stands?
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Thank you
[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;2803473]I just returned from a 3 week trip to Japan. Spent 2 weeks in Tokyo and 1 in Fukuoka. I read this thread before the trip and it helped so returning the favor. The not getting FS worried me. However, I was able get FS 4 of 4 tries. I used these 3 sites to find foreign friendly providers.
[URL]https://chn.cityheaven.net/en/[/URL]
[URL]https://eroticguide.tokyo/area/shinjuku/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.japan-escort.net/arealist/metoropolitanarea[/URL]
I was limited to incalls unfortunately. I speak a little Japanese but it's very basic and not fluent at all. In Shibuya I saw two girls from Tokyo Amateur Escort [URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/home.php[/URL].
I tried THC first but found out the closed the Shibuya location and only are located in Shinjuku. Sent TAE a text with What's App confirmed the time, service and girl for the next day. Picked Miwa Hirai. Nice young girl with a nice slender body, be cup naturals and decently attractive face. She spoke basic English and communication was no problem. Found the location next to the love hotel using google maps. Helps to review web site as it had good direction and photos. Japanese man gave direction in English to love hotel next door, collected my fee plus called the hotel so they knew I was coming. Got to the hotel and paid for room 3000 yen. Service was the flat 17000 + selection fee of 2000 yen for 50 minutes. Miwa knocked on the door 5 minutes after I arrived. The way I approached the meeting was to have fun with the girl doing non-FS stuff and if I popped great if not I would ask for FS to see what happened. Had a good start after the shower DFK, BBBJ, DATY, FIV. Did a long BBBJ hoping that would do it but for me I usually pop only with FS. So after getting her gushing with FIV and DATY asked if I could fuck her. At first she said no and I said what about a tip say $20000 yen. She said sure but with condom. She applied a condom she had and away we went. Overall I had a great time and I left happy.
Since it was good tried again with same agency and picked Ruri. Same deal 22000 yen with fee and room. Was a little disappointed this time as she was much thicker than the photos, face was very plain and she had bad breath. Miwa had us both do mouth wash and I hoped that was going to happen but did not. So no DFK, haha. I took same approach as with Miwa. Asked for FS after trying to get off with BBBJ. This time offered 10000 yen as if she turned me down no big deal. She accepted and yep she started to jump on junior BBFS. I asked for rubber she put it on and the rest is history. She was actually not bad in doggy as she had some cushion for the pushin.
I moved my location to Okubo, which is by Shinjuku so I next hit up The Hentai Club THC. Easy set up but I waited too long and Yoshika was booked along with some of the other diamonds. May have been a good thing as sounds like those pros charge and arm and a leg for FS. Went with Lisa silver level liked her petite slender frame. The face is always a crap shoot on what you get so at least I tried to get a body style I like, I. E. Petite spinner. The THC process was the same as TAE other than Lisa meeting me at the agency and we walked together to the love hotel. Paid 25000 yen for 60 minutes as the hotel was more. Lisa's body was great about 5 feet slender, almost no breast though but nice little ass. Face was older than the pics but still decent. Same routine and approach. OMG she has the smallest pussy I have encountered. While doing DATY I inserted a finger and when she was good and moist tried a second but it was a no go as she was too small. She advertises anal and can understand why if some large foreign guy tried to fuck her small pussy. In this case I am lucky to be average sized. Lisa was good DFK, BBBJ, DATY, FIV. Asked for FS and she said yes for a tip. She never made an offer on how much. She applied the condom and did some more BJ to get junior wet. I took it slow for the first 5 minutes to ease into things. Did mish for a while and added lub and switched to k9. Great view, she has some cool Japanese style tats on her back and hip. Didn't last long and popped in the bag. I ended up paying her 10000 yen for FS, she was good with it.
My best experience was in Fukuoka at a Nakasu soapland. Very hot lady and great time was had for 33000. I won't go into it as this is a Tokyo thread. Overall, good time and usually around 33000 yen with today's exchange rate that is about 280 dollars. Would have liked to have tried a Yoshiwara soapland but did not have the chance. I hope this helps others.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for your report. I was always curious about asking for FS. Next time I'm in Tokyo, I'll go with the flow and ask for FS with a tip.
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GFE Tokyo in Tokyo Night Style
GFE Tokyo sets the bar for hassle free "order in" companionship! They truly do offer the girlfriend experience! I'm an American from the East Coast and found these guys online, and I've honestly had more trouble ordering pizza in the states then I had reserving their services. They were very easy to communicate with, delivered exactly what was promised, exactly when they promised, and the experiences were all terrific. Sidenote* if you are looking to take advantage, and try to break the rules. Look elsewhere! These are not those kind of girls! They are sweet and gentle, and they aim to please. Follow the rules and you'll have a VERY SATISFYING*experience!
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Try GFE
I was visiting in Fukuoka too and apperently there is this shop called GFE Escorts and they have a branch in Tokyo as well. No FS tho but those girls are sweet and gentle.
[URL]https://gfe-escorts.com/home[/URL]
Money well spent tho!
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Ikebukuro
Saw an Ikebukuro YouTube video and he pointed at an alley way a block from where he was standing and said there are Sw's there. I laughed cause I just booked a hotel about a block away from where the girls are having had no idea there were even options there. How much are the Sw's in Ikebukuro and are they at least under 30 and fairly decent looking?
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2809672]Saw an Ikebukuro YouTube video and he pointed at an alley way a block from where he was standing and said there are Sw's there.[/QUOTE]Why you not posted the video? Post it, please.
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[QUOTE=ChristianG;2809719]Why you not posted the video? Post it, please.[/QUOTE]Cause I saw it a while back and forgot who the poster was. Was too lazy to search for it again but since you asked. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq4DqcHXAYw&list=LL&index=36[/URL].
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2809789]Cause I saw it a while back and forgot who the poster was. Was too lazy to search for it again but since you asked. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq4DqcHXAYw&list=LL&index=36[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thank you!
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GFE Fukuoka
I recently booked Karen, GFE, arranged her transportation to and from my hotel. She showed up on time and with a great attitude. She was bubbly and full of energy.
It was a kind of hospitality achieved from a not-easily blended combination of attentive service and the girl's sense is something she actually possesses, at least for the moment you've reserved her services.
[URL]https://gfe-escorts.com/profile?cp_id=1989[/URL]
What a sweet and wonderful personality!
We enjoyed several hours together where the time was very intimate.
Full of flirting laughter a great build up and a very satisfying climax!
I got to know Karen for a little bit at my hotel room, I changed the session to 4 hours to going to date with My sweetheart Karen.
The sightseeing it was very nice because she know's where should we go.
She is absolutely cute and sexy.
Actually I wanted spend time with her all the day but my balance is not enough.
Final Thoughts:
Highly Recommended, definetly.
Closing Comments:
Finally someone that seemed happy to be here and played the role of a girlfriend perfectly.
After, we came back and "had dessert" I give the whole experience a perfect 10!!
GFE the perfect name for a company that truly does provide The GIRLFRIEND EXPERIENCE!! Trust me when I say you cannot go wrong with this company. They are a class act with a great business model and top-of-the-line girls. GFE all the way!
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GFE without FS?
[QUOTE=Jameson69;2810244]I recently booked Karen, GFE, arranged her transportation to and from my hotel. She showed up on time and with a great attitude. She was bubbly and full of energy.
It was a kind of hospitality achieved from a not-easily blended combination of attentive service and the girl's sense is something she actually possesses, at least for the moment you've reserved her services.
[URL]https://gfe-escorts.com/profile?cp_id=1989[/URL]
What a sweet and wonderful personality!
We enjoyed several hours together where the time was very intimate.
Full of flirting laughter a great build up and a very satisfying climax!
I got to know Karen for a little bit at my hotel room, I changed the session to 4 hours to going to date with My sweetheart Karen.
The sightseeing it was very nice because she know's where should we go.
She is absolutely cute and sexy.
Actually I wanted spend time with her all the day but my balance is not enough.
Final Thoughts:
Highly Recommended, definetly.
Closing Comments:
Finally someone that seemed happy to be here and played the role of a girlfriend perfectly.
After, we came back and "had dessert" I give the whole experience a perfect 10!!
GFE the perfect name for a company that truly does provide The GIRLFRIEND EXPERIENCE!! Trust me when I say you cannot go wrong with this company. They are a class act with a great business model and top-of-the-line girls. GFE all the way![/QUOTE]I was RTFF in advance of a possible Japan trip later this year. I noticed your latest post and further noticed that all three of your posts are about this single agency. And you mentioned in one of those posts that FS isn't available. Have you tried any other agencies to compare? Also, while I can't speak for other mongers, if FS isn't offered I wouldn't call the experience GFE. All the girlfriend relationships I've ever had involved sex.
If you're just a big fan and enthusiastic client, no worries. If you're a "friend" of the agency, however, you might want to advise them to purchase an advertisement from ISG. It would be money well spent!
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Tokyo Summary Review
Recent trip highlights:
Sexy Cat (Kanda) - horrible, left early.
Hisyo / Segretario (Yoshiwara) - terrible, over priced, left early.
Loving Hand (Shinjuku) - very good, met expectations.
Fine Motion (Ikebukuro) - very good, expensive but worth it comparatively.
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[QUOTE=Jmsuttr;2810369]Also, while I can't speak for other mongers, if FS isn't offered I wouldn't call the experience GFE.[/QUOTE]In Japan it's quite reasonable to talk about a GFE at a place that doesn't offer FS (which is the vast majority of them).
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Many girls offer sumata, which is almost as good an experience as FS.
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Bdsm
Hi guys I am into bondage stuff and like being dominant one is there any agency in tokyo which offer bondage services like shibari and tied denmo which can be seen in lot of Japanese AV Thank you in advance.
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[QUOTE=Jameson69;2808864]I was visiting in Fukuoka too and apperently there is this shop called GFE Escorts and they have a branch in Tokyo as well. No FS tho but those girls are sweet and gentle.
[/QUOTE]Only 3 posts to your name, and all three about the same agency?
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[QUOTE=Zhuren;2811756]Only 3 posts to your name, and all three about the same agency?[/QUOTE]To boot it's an escort agency in Fukuoka which is no where near Tokyo unless you think a 5+ hour Shinkansen ride is in Tokyo.
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[QUOTE=LClaret;2810458]Recent trip highlights:
Sexy Cat (Kanda) - horrible, left early.
Hisyo / Segretario (Yoshiwara) - terrible, over priced, left early.
Loving Hand (Shinjuku) - very good, met expectations.
Fine Motion (Ikebukuro) - very good, expensive but worth it comparatively.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the short review. I did a quick search (on this thread, google, and maps) but didn't find anything for Loving Hand. I actually did find Fine Motion [URL]https://www.finemotion.jp/system.php[/URL].
Can you add a little detail about Loving Hand? I. e. Location (or how to find them) and prices?
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2812574]Can you add a little detail about Loving Hand?[/QUOTE]Sorry, I miswrote the name, it's actually just Lovely Hand which has been reviewed many times and is easily googleable.
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Soapland fees
Hi all. New here. I post on us site and have limited intl. Travel exp. I was thinking about visiting Japan on the way to BKK. Can someone advise what the fees are to the soapland ladies? I have read several articles about the bath fees but haven't seen anywhere what you pay the lady. Realizing it is "subjective", I assume, I would appreciate your experience in this regard. Thanks in advance.
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THC Bad Experiences (long term review)
TLDR: THC is not as good as you might think. Your mileage will surely vary.
Sorry for the really long post.
I have seen some posts on this forum earlier about THC so I guess this is the right forum.
Have been using the services of Tokyo Hentai Club for about 2 years now (I am a resident foreigner).
In fact, THC was my first experience with paid sex services. Tried about 10 escorts till now.
I have had some good experiences, but many bad ones.
Sharing my bad experiences so that you can make better decisions.
[HR][/HR]
[B]Escorts:[/B]
1. Mona (not working anymore).
Clock-watcher, fake orgasms, "too good for you" syndrome, typical "sl*t" personality.
She was my first bad experience.
I asked another THC girl (Japanese) about her and she told me it was because Mona is half-Japanese.
At this point I had a good idea about the internal competition among these girls.
She is not with THC anymore, but I am sharing this because she was "Diamond / Gold" class with plenty of awesome reviews.
She was probably the most beautiful / sexy girl I have met in my life though.
2. June.
False age (written 23, should be at least 40), stickler for rules (probably the only one in THC).
I asked for the AF option when I met her, and she agreed no questions asked.
Then later I asked if we can turn this into FS and she quoted me the rules and stuff. It was my fault as I should've asked beforehand.
But when we got to doing the AF thingy, she told me that my the is too big for her and won't fit. Eventually, we had about 2 inches of AF.
I must mention that I am not at all into anal stuff, and would rather not have sex at all. This was my first AF experience.
She is Gold class.
3. Ame.
False age (writen 29, should be at least 40), toxic personality, rude, time-waster?, "sensitive" excuse.
She is the winner in my list of bad experiences. When I was waiting for her at THC, she was about 40 minutes late! (Not a big issue for me, but it should've been).
Eventually we reached the hotel. She started talking about some random tourist things (don't remember exactly). Wasted about 20 minutes out of the total 120 minutes.
Then we got to the shower and bathtub. It seemed that she was having her own relax time which took about 30 minutes. (I was in the same bathtub but clueless).
At this point I asked her if she can do FS instead of AF. (I thought I was wiser this time, but new surprises every time!
She agreed to FS and we started on the bed. She did BBJ for about 30 minutes (which was probably the best yet ngl). Then we got to the real stuff.
She told me that she is really "sensitive" and that my the is too big (wtf). How the rest of it went, you can imagine.
Also, I don't buy this BS that a 40-something Japanese escort would be so "sensitive".
As for rude and toxic personality:
She asked what I do in Japan for work. I told her the industry I work in (software stuff). She said something like "You are not making a lot then huh".
She asked when was the last time I masturbated (when I did not finish from the BBJ in 2 minutes as she had expected). I told her probably yesterday but not sure. She literally said to me "Don't masturbate for a week (before you get a BJ)".
She even asked how I had a big the. (This one made me really uncomfortable now). I told her maybe due to a lot of "sexual" experiences. She disagreed and told me that my father must have a bid the too. Like wtf!
BTW, she is "Diamond" with more than 50 positive reviews.
4. Nagisa.
"American" syndrome, 0 interest shown, clock-watcher, forever staring at wall.
All Americans here, please don't flame me. But you guys must know very well about this wannabe tendency in Japanese girls.
She had been in the States for about 2 years and loved it more than Japan. This was a big red flag for me, but gave it a go anyway.
We wasted about 30 minutes before getting into shower. Then another 15 minutes in shower and bathtub. These I had expected.
Then she asked me if I was a "repeat customer" and about my previous experiences with THC girls as she had joined only a couple months ago.
When we go to the bed, she had a very "disinterested" body language and started with a sloppy BBJ.
I asked her if she would be interested in FS (she had no AF option). She told me I had bid the (wtf) and that she is very "sensitive", but asked how much I will pay (wtf again).
I told her the same price as AF option, to which she replied "tempting" and "ok". At this point I realized I had made a big big mistake.
But I continued anyway. When we got to the real deal, well, you can imagine the rest.
After about 10 minutes she told me she needed a break. The break went on for like 20 minutes (I was thinking of just leaving already). Then I did some for about 5 minutes and then she told me she can't.
She tried to finish me off with another sloppy BBJ and HJ in the remaining few minutes, but I had lost all interest by now. I was actually glad when the session ended.
This experience is very fresh, from this week.
[HR][/HR]
[B]Some things all these experiences have in common:[/B]
I had mental health issues for the next few days.
I had lost all interest in sex stuff in general.
I regretted blowing load of money for nothing.
[B]Some things I would like to clarify about THC:[/B]
They don't care about you (someone in this forum has already mentioned that foreigners are garbage to them or something).
The reviews on the website are just the positive ones. Even the girls with 50 awesome reviews can be really bad. A review just means that the specific person had a really good time. I have seen many reviews saying "my and'th booking with her" for really unworthy girls.
The class (Diamond, Gold etc.) means nothing. I one of the best experiences with a new Silver and the worst one with a Diamond.
The girls can be biased / partial to you and sometimes even racist (one girl rejected me during booking due to my nationality, which I understand). Furthermore, they tend to favor certain customers more (ones who give expensive gifts, take them out to fancy restaurants, belonging to some country they like etc.).
Even if your booking is confirmed, a girl can cancel it anytime she wants. This happened to me at least twice. And as I mentioned previously about favorite customers, your confirmed booking will be cancelled in favor of them.
The reviews may not be serious or trustworthy, but their rankings surely are. The girls take these rankings very very seriously.
For repeat customers: they keep some kind of a "profile" about you on their portal. The higher class girls probably get this info and then they accept / reject you. (I don't have solid proof for this, but based on my own experience).
Another problem I had multiple times is with the time schedule on their website. It is just wrong and not updated. I wasted so much time with the desk person on chat asking for a girl and most of them not available in the time period mentioned in their schedule.
[HR][/HR]
All the bad experiences aside, I had some really great ones which make me coming back to THC.
If any of you guys had bad experiences, please do share, for the sake of all men of culture here.
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Muscle Girls. Ikebukuro
Any reports for the muscle girls bar? First time heading to Tokyo, and associates have sent me links to this bar. Was curious if UTR dealings are going on or if it's legit just a bar. Saw a blog on the internet a few months back stating that a guy got lucky by asking a girl for her LINE contact and did a delivery health sort of deal after her shift ended at a local LH.
Will be in Tokyo for a month in a few weeks time. Will be glad to share intel that I come across.
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[QUOTE=Esskayaretee;2813837]TLDR: THC is not as good as you might think. Your mileage will surely vary.
[HR][/HR]
[B]Some things all these experiences have in common:[/B]
I had mental health issues for the next few days.
I had lost all interest in sex stuff in general.
I regretted blowing load of money for nothing.
[B]Some things I would like to clarify about THC:[/B]
They don't care about you (someone in this forum has already mentioned that foreigners are garbage to them or something).
The reviews on the website are just the positive ones. Even the girls with 50 awesome reviews can be really bad. A review just means that the specific person had a really good time. I have seen many reviews saying "my and'th booking with her" for really unworthy girls.
The class (Diamond, Gold etc.) means nothing. I one of the best experiences with a new Silver and the worst one with a Diamond.
The girls can be biased / partial to you and sometimes even racist (one girl rejected me during booking due to my nationality, which I understand). Furthermore, they tend to favor certain customers more (ones who give expensive gifts, take them out to fancy restaurants, belonging to some country they like etc.).
Even if your booking is confirmed, a girl can cancel it anytime she wants. This happened to me at least twice. And as I mentioned previously about favorite customers, your confirmed booking will be cancelled in favor of them.
The reviews may not be serious or trustworthy, but their rankings surely are. The girls take these rankings very very seriously.
For repeat customers: they keep some kind of a "profile" about you on their portal. The higher class girls probably get this info and then they accept / reject you. (I don't have solid proof for this, but based on my own experience).
Another problem I had multiple times is with the time schedule on their website. It is just wrong and not updated. I wasted so much time with the desk person on chat asking for a girl and most of them not available in the time period mentioned in their schedule.
[HR][/HR]
All the bad experiences aside, I had some really great ones which make me coming back to THC.
If any of you guys had bad experiences, please do share, for the sake of all men of culture here.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for sharing so openly and honestly.
You know, when I was in Japan I realized something. This country is high iq, relatively wealthy, and young folk are in short supply. This is not going to make for a good mix as far as the hobby is concerned. If anything, there will be players here sure, but only out of morbid curiosity. Financial abuse is the product of intellectual dishonesty in this matter. I don't think there is malice on their part, but its vicious nonetheless. Been through the same in russia, learned my lesson there, so I didn't even bother over here. Not once.
I know what you mean about mental health issues. I got dumped by an LTR in Brazil Feb. Last year and haven't been with anyone since. Its not a feeling of heartache as much as its a feeling of heartBURN. Haha.
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Curious
[QUOTE=Esskayaretee;2813837]TLDR: THC is not as good as you might think. Your mileage will surely vary.
4. Nagisa.
"American" syndrome, 0 interest shown, clock-watcher, forever staring at wall.
[/QUOTE]Just curious about what you mean by "American" syndrome. I've never heard of this term when describing a Japanese girl. Do you mean she feels entitled or like she's a 10 when she's actually a 2? LOL.
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American Syndrome
[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2816003]Just curious about what you mean by "American" syndrome. I've never heard of this term when describing a Japanese girl. Do you mean she feels entitled or like she's a 10 when she's actually a 2? LOL.[/QUOTE]I've enjoyed the hobby in a few countries around the world, but primarily in the United States. And the second I read that, I had an image in my head from a couple of my own personal experiences. In my experience, which is entirely anecdotal, I've never encountered women who felt as if they were 'too good' for me and the hobby whilst on all fours like American women. I've finished meetings with them, only to see them post on social media that they won't settle for X, Y, or Z and that she's used to 'luxury'. Mind you, many of them I've taken to nice restaurants in my earlier days, and realized relatively quickly that many of them had no clue how to behave in nice establishments. So I stopped doing that. They often attempt to fake being more established, cultured, educated, and well off than they actually are. I've also experienced gorgeous women from Asian countries, France, Germany, The Netherlands etc. Who didn't act anywhere near the level of pretentiousness as an American woman who is probably a 5 on a regular day, and a 7 on her best day.
They often offer cold or dead fish interactions, want you to finish as quickly as possible and get off of them, or simply expect hours of shopping while only offering your minutes of fun.
And above all else, and I think this is the most important part, they do not care if you're enjoying your time or not. They don't see themselves as providing a service or an experience. They see it as you should be honored to in their presence, let alone allowing you to touch them. From what I gather, there is an overall greater standard of service in Japanese providers. They want you to be happy, because they want you to come back. Or culturally, they see it as part of the act. Not so, in my experience, with many American women. They don't care if they ever see you again. In my opinion, they're not thinking long term. Plus, word travels fast in the hobby, like most areas in life, and they don't seem to be taking that into account.
Now before there are any misunderstandings: I've also had some of my best interactions with American women. However, the flat out, awful, terrible, 'want to forget it' experiences have been with American women and American women only.
It must be mentioned that I can only go on how I interact with women, in the past, I've heard some flat out horror stories on how some American hobbyists treat the women. Up to and including physical assault, running off with the donation, and harassing them or exposing them. So that must be taken into account.
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Kamimi in Ikebukuro
I meant to visit the Marine Blue store in Ikebukuro. But when I arrived, [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/iCHdV2qR4VxoVFjy9[/URL], I accidentally went to the building next door (B1) which is a hotederu. There were 2 male employees that greeted me in the basement floor. They were friendly, but barely spoke any English. They were patient as I used Google translator. Unfortunately, they only had 1 girl available listed as 30 yo (probably because I'm not Japanese? From personal experience, if a girl is listed as 30 yo, that usually means 35-40. Since this was my first P4 P visit so I go with the flow. Her name is Sakurako Kamami, 15000 Y. Turns out she also works closer to my hotel in Shin-Okubo on other days. She gave me a link to her online profile for that other store: [URL]https://www.cityheaven.net/tokyo/A1304/A130404/zenra-kakumei/girlid-28851210/diary/[/URL].
The employee takes me to a nearby hotel (Hotel West One). I'm asked to pay 3200 Y for a 90 min ST stay. He tells me to go to the room and wait for her. Again, this was my first time in a ST hotel in Japan. When you enter the room, you first enter a very small entrance area where you take off your shoes. There are 2 doors on either side. One goes to the bathroom (only has a toilet) and the other is to the room. In the room, there's actually a sink next to the bed and another door for the shower / bath.
Kamimi knocks on the door in about 10 minutes. I honestly wasn't too impressed with her looks. I probably would've walked out if this was in the US. Her looks were probably about a 6, mostly because of the cute makeup. She doesn't speak any English. So we use Google translator and she asks me if I like to be agressive or more receiving. I want her to take the lead, so I tell her I like DFK and receiving. She immediately DFK's me and takes me to the shower for a quick wash. She's very thorough, washing my ass as well, making me think rimming is included?
We go back to the room after the shower. She has me lie down and starts with some intense DFK and licks my face and ear. She really knows how to use her tongue. She goes down to lick my nipples and further for some BBBJ+BLS. She then lifts my legs to get access for some rimming. She's lashing out at my sphincter and uses her hand skillfully to give me a HJ. Kamimi sees me writhing in bliss and directs me to flip over for more rimming while I'm in K9 and gives me some amazing BBBJ in that position.
I want to show my appreciation and ask her to lie down, too. We DFK, I suck on her dime sized nipples where she's very responsive. I then go down for DATY and FIV, which she welcomes. After she's nice and wet, I come back up for more DFK. Going along with the mood and action, I press up against her and my unit enters without any objection. At this point, I feel pretty lucky and go full throttle in MISH. We cross legs for scissor and after a few minutes, I CIP.
This was at about the 30 minute mark. The rest of the time, we chat about my visit and she gives me info on some places to visit as well as the other shop she works out of. She also tells me that she's a service queen and 80% of girls don't provide BBFS. I take that to mean that she didn't just give me BBFS because she liked me. LOL. She also told me that she's surprised to see a "gaijin" because the shop normally only takes Japanese customers. After cleaning and dressing up again, I hand her 5000 Y for tip. Without counting, she declines and says it's not necessary. And while I appreciated the service, I don't plan on seeing her again, so I don't press the issue.
Summary:
I had a great time with Kamimi. She's not the best looking, but I think I got really good service at a very reasonable price. I doubt I'll be able to get similar service while in Japan.
P: 9 - Face is a bit filtered. But body is pretty spot on.
L: 6 - Older, slightly chubby. Natural see cup. But decent makeup.
E: 1 - She barely knew some basic English words. Not that I expected much more.
A: 9 - She was looking to please. Biggest barrier was communication.
S: 9 - DFK, BBBJ, BLS, RIM, BBFSCIP. Only things missing were MSOG (attraction wasn't there anyways) and Greek.
E: 15000 Y 60 minutes plus 3200 Y 90 minute hotel. I was surprised there wasn't a "gaijin fee".
Are: No.
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JanJan
Wanting the full Japanese P4 P experience, I went to JanJan [URL]https://janjan-sugamo.com/access/[/URL] the 2nd day. I didn't have high expectations, but did have some hopes. I went down to the basement level where the host asked me for 4000 Y. I remember reading on TAG that this is the standard gaijin price. I ask for wakai and chisai josen (young and petite lady). I don't think it really matters here. It seems like whoever's done goes to whichever customer is next. I got there just before 3 PM. There were quite a few gaijin customers. Although it was dark inside, one gaijin was walking out as I was walking in. Another was speaking in English with the hostess. And there was me, so that makes 3 at the very least. It seemed a bit busy.
After paying, the host guided me to a booth (all the booths were facing one direction) where I waited about 15 minutes. I noticed 2 ladies walking around sucking customers off. I hoped I wasn't going to get either of these two as they seemed old. No such luck. One of them (I'm estimating close to 50 years old) sat next to me. She asked me to take my pants off and helped wipe me down. She immediately went down for BBBJ. I was able to get hard after a few minutes. But I didn't come close to a climax, no matter how hard I tried to think of some hot kgirl sessions I had back in LA. I tried taking matters into my own hand (literally) by trying to masterbate into her mouth while FIV, but that didn't work either. I was thinking about giving up. One last effort, I asked her to suck on my nipples. That did the trick. As I was nearing climax, I motioned her head down to my unit where I unloaded in her mouth. She kept sucking until every last drop was out. I appreciated her effort. She was apologetic about something, I wasn't sure what. So I told her everything was OK (daijobu-desu).
All in all, I guess the experience was OK, but probably not worth repeating.
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[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2817245]Wanting the full Japanese P4 P experience, I went to JanJan [URL]https://janjan-sugamo.com/access/[/URL] the 2nd day. I didn't have high expectations, but did have some hopes. I went down to the basement level where the host asked me for 4000 Y. I remember reading on TAG that this is the standard gaijin price. I ask for wakai and chisai josen (young and petite lady). I don't think it really matters here. It seems like whoever's done goes to whichever customer is next. I got there just before 3 PM. [/QUOTE]Did they change the prices? It has always been 3000 yen before 7 pm, and 4000 yen after 7 pm.
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Anyone visit Dio / Emotion in Gotanda recently?
I was wondering if Dio / Emotion still has the "Standard Double" service for around 80,000 yen you get two girls back to back CIM service? I checked the website [URL]https://ranking-deli.jp/fuzoku/style4/8/shop/14352/system/[/URL] but could not find it.
I was also curious as far as getting best looking cute girls for CIM and gaijin friendly I will be staying in Asakusa area and my choices look like:
1. Dio / Emotion.
2. Safari.
3. Jyan Jyan.
If there are any other reasonable priced pinsaro bareback CIM options that will accept gaijin that I'm missing here please elaborate and let me know about it. Thanks.
G.
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SEAFARI. I never came this much. Mizu is the best
Tokyo, Tokyo, Tokyo. One would imagine mongering in Japan to be quite expensive. To be honest, it's not unless you want actuall FS.
Was in Tokyo looking for some fun. Found some information about Seafari in Shibuya. This place takes gaijin and is located pretty centrally. I decided to give it a visit. Located near the JR Station in a side street, SEAFARI's sign is a white neon board on the street directing punters down a set of stairs into a small waiting room.
At the bottom, I was greeted by the "manager" and he proceeded to introduce to me the system. I speak horrible Japanese but was able to understand it. It's super simple. 40 minutes for 8000.60 for 10000. I opted for 60 minutes. He had wanted to set me up with a woman named Yuna, but seeing there was someone cute on the bulletin board, I opted for Mizu. She was labeled as 36 years-old Office lady type. She was not.
She was in fact 36 years-old, but definitely not an office lady type. Short but super shapely with gorgeous tits, I had a chubby as soon as I walked past the curtains. SEAFARI's premises leave quite a bit to be desired. It's small individual cubicle style massage rooms with a tiny bed. As soon as I got in, Mizu greeted me and started to strip me. Then she proceed to announce that "customer" is going to the shower. There in the shower, she gave me a quick hug and proceed to clean. After some small chit chat, some cleaning and a lot of mouth wash, she DFK me and then announced customer would be returning to the room.
Once inside the room, she asked me to sit down as she proceeded to blow me. Now mizu, Tiny, erotic mizu, stared at me lustfully with her pericing brown eyes. Man her eyes. I nearly nutted in her mouth. As I leaned backwards into the bed, she slowly positioned us where she was on the bed too all the while sucking and licking the shit out of my rod, half way through, I noticed that she had loads of awesome tattoos. The tattoos only made her more erotic. She noticed I was ready to blow so she stopped and started rubbing her body all over me till she came up to my face and started to stick her tongue in my mouth, that's when I finally noticed she had a tongue stud. Once I was no longer ready to blow but still super hard, she started to rub clit all over me. She had the cutest, smallest, wettest pussy. Fingering her, I could feel it crushing my normal-sized digit. It was incredible. About 40 minutes in, she started to blow me again, this time in 69 position. A little over 2 minutes, I said Iku Iku Iku, she immediately put her mouth over my dickhead and started pumping my cock for cum. I came so much, it came out of her nose. She swallowed it all and giggled. Left the room, I assumed to use mouthwash and then we proceeded to make out until the end shower.
I repeated Mizu the next day. I visited her a total of 4 x over the course of a week. It was legit. I need to impregnate this woman.
Lady Friend: Mizu.
Age: she said 36.
Language: She understands very little english but is super game. Japanese primarily.
Height: 150-155 cm.
Bust: be. See.
Ass: Apple bottom.
Face: Cute as hell. Her eyes are amazing.
Body: Dynamite in a small package - 3 / maybe 4 tattoos. One of a phoenix.
Hair: Dark. Long, smells great.
Service: 20 out of 10.
Attitude: Bad ass.
Would I return: As soon as I'm back in Tokyo. I will.
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A passionate review
Dude, your review is one of the most passionate reviews I've ever read on this forum,. Well done.
[QUOTE=Nemo798;2820236]Tokyo, Tokyo, Tokyo. One would imagine mongering in Japan to be quite expensive. To be honest, it's not unless you want actuall FS.
Was in Tokyo looking for some fun. Found some information about Seafari in Shibuya. This place takes gaijin and is located pretty centrally. I decided to give it a visit. Located near the JR Station in a side street, SEAFARI's sign is a white neon board on the street directing punters down a set of stairs into a small waiting room.
At the bottom, I was greeted by the "manager" and he proceeded to introduce to me the system. I speak horrible Japanese but was able to understand it. It's super simple. 40 minutes for 8000.60 for 10000. I opted for 60 minutes. He had wanted to set me up with a woman named Yuna, but seeing there was someone cute on the bulletin board, I opted for Mizu. She was labeled as 36 years-old Office lady type. She was not.
She was in fact 36 years-old, but definitely not an office lady type. Short but super shapely with gorgeous tits, I had a chubby as soon as I walked past the curtains. SEAFARI's premises leave quite a bit to be desired. It's small individual cubicle style massage rooms with a tiny bed. As soon as I got in, Mizu greeted me and started to strip me. Then she proceed to announce that "customer" is going to the shower. There in the shower, she gave me a quick hug and proceed to clean. After some small chit chat, some cleaning and a lot of mouth wash, she DFK me and then announced customer would be returning to the room.
Once inside the room, she asked me to sit down as she proceeded to blow me. Now mizu, Tiny, erotic mizu, stared at me lustfully with her pericing brown eyes. Man her eyes. I nearly nutted in her mouth. As I leaned backwards into the bed, she slowly positioned us where she was on the bed too all the while sucking and licking the shit out of my rod, half way through, I noticed that she had loads of awesome tattoos. The tattoos only made her more erotic. She noticed I was ready to blow so she stopped and started rubbing her body all over me till she came up to my face and started to stick her tongue in my mouth, that's when I finally noticed she had a tongue stud. Once I was no longer ready to blow but still super hard, she started to rub clit all over me. She had the cutest, smallest, wettest pussy. Fingering her, I could feel it crushing my normal-sized digit. It was incredible. About 40 minutes in, she started to blow me again, this time in 69 position. A little over 2 minutes, I said Iku Iku Iku, she immediately put her mouth over my dickhead and started pumping my cock for cum. I came so much, it came out of her nose. She swallowed it all and giggled. Left the room, I assumed to use mouthwash and then we proceeded to make out until the end shower.
I repeated Mizu the next day. I visited her a total of 4 x over the course of a week. It was legit. I need to impregnate this woman.
Lady Friend: Mizu.
Age: she said 36.
Language: She understands very little english but is super game. Japanese primarily.
Height: 150-155 cm.
Bust: be. See.
Ass: Apple bottom.
Face: Cute as hell. Her eyes are amazing.
Body: Dynamite in a small package - 3 / maybe 4 tattoos. One of a phoenix.
Hair: Dark. Long, smells great.
Service: 20 out of 10.
Attitude: Bad ass.
Would I return: As soon as I'm back in Tokyo. I will.[/QUOTE].
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These are good prices.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2817269]Did they change the prices? It has always been 3000 yen before 7 pm, and 4000 yen after 7 pm.[/QUOTE]Am I reading these prices correctly? Are we talking about 25 and $30 USD? (3000 -4000 yen). I thought Japan is more expensive.
May be escorts and FS is expensive?
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Thumbs up to Chihiro at AM
Just to confirm what everybody can expect from her: Fantastic!! Nice personality, friendly, hot, casual, elegant and a unforgettable smile.
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[QUOTE=Vitrea;2821201]Dude, your review is one of the most passionate reviews I've ever read on this forum,. Well done.
.[/QUOTE]I second that!! This Nemo798 review is amazing!! Very inspiring with purpose and feeling! Thank you at Nemo798!
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AM provides full service?
[QUOTE=SuperNice2;2821300]Just to confirm what everybody can expect from her: Fantastic!! Nice personality, friendly, hot, casual, elegant and a unforgettable smile.[/QUOTE]Do the girls provide full service?
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[QUOTE=Vitrea;2821201]Dude, your review is one of the most passionate reviews I've ever read on this forum,. Well done.
.[/QUOTE]Thank you, thank you!
I'm freaking out since I'm now back out of Japan. I can't wait to be back there again. To be fair- I could go for a weekend. Mizu was so good. If I could, I'd marry this woman and I know nothing about her besides how much I want to plant my seed deep into her womb. It's like she's a tiny little machine built for sex.
I've been mongering for quite a while now. Working girls in Shanghai when it was still a city of sin, some of the hottest girls in Geylang Singapore (even had one do house calls on her days off), Jakarta, Taipei, other places in Tokyo and Osaka, and Mizu legitimately takes the cake. I'm just aching right now thinking about her. Going to find some tissues shortly or call up my regular provider. Which ever one fits my schedule for today.
Note: Do not fall in love with your providers etc. I'm not saying true love doesn't blossom on the "battlefield", what I'm saying is, it's not as easy as it sounds.
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Had Juzo or Juno at Safari in Shibuya tonight!
When I arrived two dudes were ahead of me and door guy was super cool. I got in line, peeped out the line up of photos and the door guy pointed to two girls available from the photos on the wall I picked Juzo and I started drinking mugi-cha which was handed to me after paying. I paid the 60 min fee which was ₯10,000. Juno or Juzo was a cute 30 something year old not too bad very small size short girl kind of tan skin and ok body.
Service= 8.
Looks= 7.
CIM with BBBJ and 69= 7.
Tits= 6 little saggy.
Shower= 7.
Tattoos= 2 one on arm a moon and dolphin and some weird one on the back and another on her toe.
Clean Place= 8.
Mirror on side of Bed= Good touch makes it easy to watch the BBBJ action.
I did like the fact that the girl was Japanese and kinda cute and seemed to be down for anything. I honestly could of got FS if I had a condom she seemed down for whatever and ready to please the customer.
Not sure if I would repeat unless I knew I could get the youngest and best girl they got then I would go but for me this just wasn't enough to go again when I could get same service at Jyan Jyan for ₯3,000 which is closer to Asakusa or I can go to Dio.
Emotion and maybe get the Standard Double (two girls back to back BBBJ CIM) for ₯8,000 of course to each is own but this has been my experience.
I will probably visit Jyan Jyan and Dio.
Emotion over the next few weeks I will let why'all know how it goes.
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Ginza massage
I am staying in Ginza so I took a walk around with the intent of getting a legit massage or massage with release. I had no expectations and no real knowledge of prices. I went around 9 pm. Legit places are closing or taken last customers. Found one place 4 F, on the same street as Ramen Takahasi (great Ramen BTW). A skinny Jap girl was there. Mimi. May be 30's. Hard for to tell Japanese ladies age. Said 70 minmassage is 10 K. Did soap shower. Very light touching of private. On the table shower just letting you know that she is willing to do more. Light foam wash. Massage was super light. Flip came in 35 min from entry. Starting rubbing the little guy. She said 10 k more for hand job. I know it is too much but I was too tired to haggle. I said top off and then she layer beside and cuddled while softly playing with me for 10 min. I massaged her small mommy tits and ass and I had straddle my thighs for finish. She giggled a lot. May be too much pent up cum. Place was below average for my taste. Clean but old and worn out. She clothed me and waited at door till elevator door closed like a GF. I think I got taken. I don't know.
I Won't repeat for that price she said no kissing and no FS.
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Am
[QUOTE=SuperNice2;2821300]Just to confirm what everybody can expect from her: Fantastic!! Nice personality, friendly, hot, casual, elegant and a unforgettable smile.[/QUOTE]What is AM for people new to Tokyo?
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Asian Mystique
[URL]https://asianmystique.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Vitrea;2821743]What is AM for people new to Tokyo?[/QUOTE]
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Maps?
Is there a WorldTraveler69 map for Tokyo? I'm having difficulties locating the link.
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[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2817245]I ask for wakai and chisai josen (young and petite lady). [/QUOTE]How do you pronounce that?
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Correct
Jan Jan is a Pink Salon (BJ bar only). That was the price I was given as well during my trip in the spring of 2018.
Funny enough I remember that I accidentally dropped my passport in my booth and the old man sitting in front of the establishment comes running out to return it to me haha.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;2821205]Am I reading these prices correctly? Are we talking about 25 and $30 USD? (3000 -4000 yen). I thought Japan is more expensive.
May be escorts and FS is expensive?[/QUOTE]
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Asian Mystique and GFE Escorts
This was our first visit to Tokyo since before the pandemic. Tokyo has always been a bit of a challenge for couples, but once we found AM we had a reliable agency. (Ai, while she was there, was our favorite.) Planning for this trip, I found GFE Escorts, a new agency with promising pics, which got our hopes up. There was a report here drooling over the girls, but someone called that out as a shill; that sent us back to AM as a first choice.
Once we were settled in to our Airbnb, we chose Kaori at AM. I didn't ask for a recommendation, we simply chose her based on her profile, prioritizing good English skills. And she was a sweetheart, a great conversationalist, quite cute and engaging. Unfortunately, she had almost no experience with couples; that became clear only once we got into bed. She was fine with me (quite good BJ skills), but overall a big disappointment for my wife (and therefore for me as well). Lesson learned. Don't rely solely on the profile; I should have asked AM for a recommendation as they've been quite good at this in the past.
We then put all our bets on GFE; either it was going to work out well or we'd spend the last of our days trying. They recommended Mia. I lost sleep the night before, again thinking back to the supposed shill review. There was another red flag; they were offering compensation for positive reviews. I was prepared for bait-and-switch, cautiously optimistic that we'd have at least a decent experience.
My concerns were unfounded. Mia is stunning, almost statuesque (for Japan, certainly). The pics on the website are her, and her face is adorably cute. She spoke very little English, but we used Google Translate to hold an enjoyable conversation and to express our desires. She's sexy / cute / erotic all at the same time. We showered together, cuddled together, and she's truly bisexual, almost to the point where I could have simply watched. The 90 minutes went by too fast, and we immediately booked a return visit, this time for 2 hours. We wish we could have stayed longer.
Both agencies have been good to work with, especially by booking a day or more in advance. Pricing seems similar; AM has a 2-hour minimum and (mostly) flat-rate pricing, GFE starts out less expensive but charges for options. But in the end, we only get to visit once or twice a year, so the difference is insignificant. If the other girls on GFE are true to their pictures, then Dave at AM. The established incumbent. Has some catching up to do.
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Unexpected Very positive experiences of out call erotic massage
Last week I reported about my mediocre ginza massage experience. I had a chance to go back to Tokyo again this week. I was doing random Google searches, and I ran into this place, called
https://sensual-massage.jp/
The website had attractive looking women, prices seem reasonable and most importantly they communicated on WhatsApp. I message them around early afternoon. The person on the other end responded with 13 choices. It was hard to choose based on photographs as every one of them looked quite cute. For 20,000 included oral services on top of the erotic massage and shower. I decide to take a chance.
I asked for a slim and athletic and I chose from among the taller ones. I know most Japanese girls are quite petite but within my available choices, I tend to choose toddler girls, 160 cm iplus.
My first choice was Moa. She arrived punctually. As always, she's a little older than advertised, but I believe if she's under 30 very pleasant face, nice body and amazing attitude she gently undressed me and let me to the shower. We shower together with generous soap, and attention to the privates. In the bed, she asked what kind of massage I wanted and I preferred a heart massage. She gave me a pretty decent hard massage for 10 minutes, but then switch to soft perineal massage my experience with her was amazing. I wasn't prepared with extra cash, so I did not go for any extras. Extras are clearly available.
My original plan was to go to a Soapland after the first massage. Since this is my first time in Tokyo and I don't know my whereabouts I decided not to venture out given the similar pricing structure and the girl that came to my room was quite cute and we really connected. She spoke decent English, and genuinely shared some interesting life perspectives. I definitely want to see her again before I leave Japan.
Call Iva something to eat. I decided to get something to eat but before I left, I booked a second appointment. This time the agency recommended Ichigo. She actually arrived a bit early. Then I was ready for clearly. The agency is very punctual. She is a bit more voluptuous than I prefer. Some guys may like her, but she's not my type. I like them, but more athletic I decided to make the most out of it and make it a positive experience, I gave her a very nice massage and she really enjoyed it. I actually did not finish with her but I had a decent time. It is the Japanese pleasant culture. Hard to get worked up about minor things. Maybe she wasn't having the best of her days. I decided not to make a fuss.
I contacted the agency and they gave them feedback. They were genuinely apologetic that it did not work out between me and the second girl. They didn't promise me that they're based on my description and my directions with the two got so far I was recommended Sakura.
Now, Sakura is a very pretty girl. Her face is beautiful classic Japanese great smile and great attitude and she was a bit rigid on time but I don't blame them. I had an amazing time with her in the bed. Extras were offered and I accepted. She left happy and I was drained.
I have never been to a Soapland but from what I've read, for a high-quality Soapland session could cost around 30,000 per hour. For a little over twice that I had three good looking Japanese girls come to my room and take care of me without me moving an inch. That itself is worth something.
And what added to the entire experience is the person on the other end of WhatsApp. Incredibly responsive and seemed to truly care if I had a good experience or not. I promise Moa that I will be back sooner than I had originally planned and I hope to keep my promise.
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Tokyo's old, homely Japanese sex workers
Sinful,
Thanks for your interesting post. You are a very good resource for the sex scene in Asia.
I looked over a few escort and massage sites in Tokyo. The pics were blurred out, showing older, pudgy women with average looks. Even flight attendants on Japan Airlines and ANA did not look the hottest. Guys kept talking up Japanese masseuses in LOS Angeles, but I found them way too old and wrinkled, in their 50's and 60's WTF? My dick shriveled just looking at them.
OTOH I met and worked with a few women in the Foreign and Defense Ministries in Tokyo. They were beautiful like dolls, smart, nice, clean. Trim, pretty, spoke prefect English with American accent, the perfect female specimens. My heart dropped just looking at them. Also met civie women in Kyoto. They were some of the sweetest and classiest beautiful women, accommodating and indulging to foreigners.
When I am in Tokyo I won't waste time navigating the train system to screw pudgy, average-looking women. I don't have patience for that. I am far more motivated in finding the best AYCE Wagyu and seafood grills in Tokyo. The I will use your info in Bangkok to find some hottest and sexiest girls.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=letlYNYZ4a8[/URL]
Really appreciate you as a good wingman and a fine foreign correspondent.
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Tokyo vs Bangkok
For my Asian-expert brethren, do you think Tokyo is worth a stop for 3-5 days for sampling the local women? I understand price differences between Bangkok and Tokyo, this question is more about quality of experiences between the two. I'm mid 60's, and DFK is a big draw during playtime for me. Flights to Bangkok from LAX often go thru Tokyo anyway, so I can extend the stay without much cost penalty. Should I just go on to Bangkok or are the Japanese women worth the time and cost to sample?
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This is a very valid point of view. That 21 year old flawless Japanese girl that speaks English and has bit of an ass is like the holy grail. Hard for tourists to find that, and it is not the matter of money.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2825471]Sinful,
Thanks for your interesting post. You are a very good resource for the sex scene in Asia.
I looked over a few escort and massage sites in Tokyo. The pics were blurred out, showing older, pudgy women with average looks. Even flight attendants on Japan Airlines and ANA did not look the hottest. Guys kept talking up Japanese masseuses in LOS Angeles, but I found them way too old and wrinkled, in their 50's and 60's WTF? My dick shriveled just looking at them.
OTOH I met and worked with a few women in the Foreign and Defense Ministries in Tokyo. They were beautiful like dolls, smart, nice, clean. Trim, pretty, spoke prefect English with American accent, the perfect female specimens. My heart dropped just looking at them. Also met civie women in Kyoto. They were some of the sweetest and classiest beautiful women, accommodating and indulging to foreigners.
When I am in Tokyo I won't waste time navigating the train system to screw pudgy, average-looking women. I don't have patience for that. I am far more motivated in finding the best AYCE Wagyu and seafood grills in Tokyo. The I will use your info in Bangkok to find some hottest and sexiest girls.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=letlYNYZ4a8[/URL]
Really appreciate you as a good wingman and a fine foreign correspondent.[/QUOTE]
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My trip to Look x Look at Kanda station
Well, I decided to try out Look x Look since it's the closest BBBJ pinsaro pink salon that will except gaijin near Asakusa. I will say for ₯5,000 note total cost for back to back BBBJ from two girls this was average looking girls not too bad but these women are in there 30's to 40's and not good lookers but they will get the job done. [URL]http://kanda-looklook.com/[/URL] Cost states ₯4,000 note but I think they charge extra ₯1,000 note for gaijin who knows I did not ask or worry about it. I don't remember girls names both were little on the chubby side not fat but just a little heavy but for ₯5,000 note back to back BBBJ with CIM you cannot beat that even cheaper than Jan Jan and cheaper than Dio.
Emotion that said it's really a matter of quality or quantity so to each is own. If I could find a spot that had 20 year olds that look pretty and do BBBJ CIM in Tokyo I would be there in a hot minute but for now it's either Jan Jan, Dio.
Emotion, Look x Look, and Safari. I did take a walk around to see if any other shops would invite me in and I noticed a lot of snack shops and other random places but I did not get any invites like dozo dozo. Overall I think it was worth it trying out Look x Look and if you're just looking for a release with two girls and kissing allowed and fingering than this place is good if you're on a budget. I might repeat if not I will try Jan Jan it's been quite a few years since I went to Jan Jan although Jan Jan is only one girl no double girl.
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[QUOTE=MikeNm;2825572]For my Asian-expert brethren, do you think Tokyo is worth a stop for 3-5 days for sampling the local women? I understand price differences between Bangkok and Tokyo,[/QUOTE]This is like asking should I go to Disneyland or the Fargo, North Dakota country fair. It's not the same type of playground by any reasonable means especially if you don't speak Japanese. It has zero to do about money.
But by all means give it a try I am only one opinion and yes I can speak a bit of Japanese that I have learned over many visits to Japan.
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Okubo Park
I'm not a Shinjuku guy but I decided to get a hotel in the heart of Kabukicho last weekend for the purpose of being near Okubo Park. Took a couple of strolls nightly in the area. Tons of guys. I guess there were quite a few girls too but nothing seemed all that appealing. Kinda fun to walk around once but all it does is want me to go home to Osaka and grab a good looking girl.
As for the girls who hand out tissues and flyers in Kabukicho they were all out in full force on Friday. Lots of them but again nothing special lookswise. However if you are a Farang and am looking for some action in Tokyo city I guess Kabukicho is your best best. I meant to go to the strip clubs in the I Heart Kabukicho building but didn't go. Decided to apply my 10 k yen entry or whatever it was to an amazing steak dinner instead.
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Does anyone meet up in Japan?
I was living in Colombia for about 6 months cumulative over an 8 month period and meet ups with fellow mongers were a very common occurrence. I'm going to be in Tokyo for 2-3 weeks and I was wondering if there were any fellow ISGers that would like to meet up and talk shop. Inbox me your WhatsApp if you would like to meet, I'm new here and would like to know a lot more about this place from a foreigners perspective. I'm planning on spending a few months in Asia, first time to this continent.
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One day in Tokio
Guys can you give me some numbers / websites for nice escort in Tokio? I will be there only one day and don't want to waste time. Already looking.
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GFE-Escorts
Just got back to Tokyo, I was exploring and had trouble picking between GFE-escorts and henticlub. Henti overall has a larger selection but the day I was looking they didn't have anyone that caught my fancy. So I decided to go with GFE-escort I picked Ava. I went through the extras with the booker. I don't recommend getting the instant BJ your just plain wasting your money. All that means is the girl will give you a BJ before the shower or showering. Personally from past you'll get better results if you let her shower you so she knows your clean. Ava was great very enthusiastic about sucking she did offer full service for a tip but didn't feel like partaking. Next I will be trying Henti club.
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First few days on Tokyo
I'm here in Tokyo for the first time doing tourist stuff, but I like to monger when I travel. So I've been reading the forum and checking out places that have been recommended over the past few months.
THC- I went to the office too early. They don't open until 12. They have a small kiosk inside an office they share with other businesses. One of the other businesses tried to poach me when I was confused about which kiosk was THC. THC is at "F" when you go to the third floor. I believe the first kiosk is the letter "see" and they told me they only offer handjob massages. I'll return later to talk to THC about setting up an appointment with a girl.
Taro's Bld. 3rd Floor, Counter F, Kabukicho 1-7-3, Shinjuku-ku.
JanJan- It was as everyone described. No Japanese language needed. The guy outside made sure I understood it was 4,000 not the posted 3,000. Went downstairs to basement level 1, paid 4,000, got seated in a little booth with a bunch of other guys already getting serviced around me in other booths. There were 4 girls I noticed working, two younger skinny girls that were attractive enough, a fat girl, and the one I got which was older and normal build. I do not have high standards so it was no bother to me, I dropped my pants and she cleaned me up and gave me a great blowjob. Came in her mouth and went on with my day. From what I understand, you can get up to 2 blowjobs in 30 minutes there. I didn't wait around to find out.
1-chōme-12-3 Sugamo, Toshima City.
Seafari- Basement level 1 is where it's located. It is on par with JanJan as far as quality of establishment goes. They offered only 2 girls to me because I don't speak Japanese. They didn't care at all that I was a foreigner, if I spoke the language they would have let me pick whoever I wanted. I chose Miho, she's older and has baby damage but she's a very nice person and performed decently well. 9,000 for 40 minutes. Blowjob, handjob, and pussy rubbing on my dick wasn't doing the trick. I asked her about sex, she said no sex, I told her I would pay extra she said okay 5,000. I agreed. She threw on a condom and rode me for a bit. Then we did doggy. Couldn't get the nut out. Used up the full 40 minutes.
Manzensha Building B1, 1-13-2 Dogenzaka, Shibuya-ku.
I have plans to try out dolce and sweet kiss but I'm concerned they won't see me over the weekend because I'm a foreigner and they'll prioritize Japanese. I'll try to get there when they open at 8 and see what happens. I may extend my trip just to try those two places out, I was supposed to check out of my hotel on Monday but I guess it depends if they'll see me or not over the weekend. I'll report back more later.
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GFE-escorts Ava
[QUOTE=David032;2826877]Just got back to Tokyo, I was exploring and had trouble picking between GFE-escorts and henticlub. Henti overall has a larger selection but the day I was looking they didn't have anyone that caught my fancy. So I decided to go with GFE-escort I picked Ava. I went through the extras with the booker. I don't recommend getting the instant BJ your just plain wasting your money. All that means is the girl will give you a BJ before the shower or showering. Personally from past you'll get better results if you let her shower you so she knows your clean. Ava was great very enthusiastic about sucking she did offer full service for a tip but didn't feel like partaking. Next I will be trying Henti club.[/QUOTE]Can share where did you get Ava? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=HornyCock;2828194]Can share where did you get Ava? Thanks.[/QUOTE]The answer is already in his post from where he found AVA.
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Stopped by Look X Look near Kanda station again.
Got the double BBBJCIM again at Look X Look this time it was Haru up first and I did not think I would finish but probably only a minute left till the next girl was up and I released. Second girl was up and I could not bust again after several minutes. Not bad for the cost 5000 for two. Few places around looked like not getting business and almost looked like they would accept me but I did not wait around to try. I made a stop at Sweet Kiss on the way home in Asakusa (Kabukicho area) and the guy at the door was super nice and spoke only Japanese but easy to understand that they start in the morning at 9 AM but better and more quality girls would be in around 6 PM. Cost was on the expensive side 50 min 21,000 and goes up to 30,000 for 90 min. Anyhow, girls in the photos were all amazing looking. I might try it not sure as it's a bit too expensive.
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I would forget about Tokyo
[QUOTE=MikeNm;2825572]For my Asian-expert brethren, do you think Tokyo is worth a stop for 3-5 days for sampling the local women? I understand price differences between Bangkok and Tokyo, this question is more about quality of experiences between the two. I'm mid 60's, and DFK is a big draw during playtime for me. Flights to Bangkok from LAX often go thru Tokyo anyway, so I can extend the stay without much cost penalty. Should I just go on to Bangkok or are the Japanese women worth the time and cost to sample?[/QUOTE]I am not sure how easy DFK is in Bangkok, but it's near impossible in Tokyo in the mongering scene. I have experienced mongering in both cities. I could not get DFK in any of them. I mongered in bkk many times but only a few times in Tokyo.
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[QUOTE=Vitrea;2825449]
I have never been to a Soapland but from what I've read, for a high-quality Soapland session could cost around 30,000 per hour. For a little over twice that I had three good looking Japanese girls come to my room and take care of me without me moving an inch. That itself is worth something.
And what added to the entire experience is the person on the other end of WhatsApp. Incredibly responsive and seemed to truly care if I had a good experience or not. I promise Moa that I will be back sooner than I had originally planned and I hope to keep my promise.[/QUOTE]Yes soaplands are expensive but watch some of those soapland JAV porns and you get an idea of what happens (minus the sex because you will probably not get any penetration) but if the experience of getting a soapy woman rubbing her body over you has any interest I do think its worth trying. I like massages too but soaplands are definitely in a class of their own. If you don't get excited by the idea of a woman bathing you and then jerking you off then its probably not for you but its fun to me.
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Soaplands
Prices range greatly, basically reflecting the age of the girl / woman, plus overall quality of venue. Low end could be just 11,000/30 min, but that time isn't enough for the slip&slide. Usually standard course is 50-70 min. Two shots very likely if you are able. Prices would be 17,000 for 40 yr and up, 70,000 or more for PSE with 20-something AV star.
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Language as well
[QUOTE=Lion;2828816]Prices range greatly, basically reflecting the age of the girl / woman, plus overall quality of venue. Low end could be just 11,000/30 min, but that time isn't enough for the slip&slide. Usually standard course is 50-70 min. Two shots very likely if you are able. Prices would be 17,000 for 40 yr and up, 70,000 or more for PSE with 20-something AV star.[/QUOTE]Don't forget to add in if you speak Japanese as well that can effect the price. Sometimes if you only speak English they will upsell you if you don't speak Japanese. Some places call it a language or security tax. Finding a forgeiner friendly soapland or delivery health is half the battle if you don't speak good Japanese. When I was younger and didn't mind staying up to late, I would walk around the sopaland areas and see which club was desperate near closing time. If business was bad all night at the end near closing they will allow foreigners in from time to time.
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Question
So was browsing THC website and a few girls had Denma listed as an option what does that translate to or mean as a service.
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Google
[QUOTE=David032;2830045]So was browsing THC website and a few girls had Denma listed as an option what does that translate to or mean as a service.[/QUOTE]Just Google it. It's like a vibrator sort I thing as I recall.
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Soapland visit during a 9 hour layover
Hi folks,
I have a layover in Haneda from 7 am-4:30 pm. I want to experience soapland if possible during that time.
Would anyone please tell me where to go? I've searched the forum for soapland but I can't figure out a good plan. Ideally I would take the metro, enjoy an hour session and then come back to airport.
This will be my first time visiting Japan and I don't speak Japanese.
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Anyone heard about this new escort service in Tokyo?
I am planning on visiting Tokyo next month, and I was browsing around for some new high end escort services. I haven't been back in years. Came across the usuals. THC, AM etc.
I Googled things to do in the Kabukicho area (Tokyo's Red Light District, for those of you who don't know), and after clicking away, I landed on what seems to be a new service called Japan Fun Club. Anyone heard of this? They seem to cater to foreigners only. No pics of girls, so they don't look operational yet. Anybody knows when they will open?
Their website says to sign up, which I did.
Services offered seem to cater to M4 W, M4 M, W4 W, including couples. On their "menu" ([URL]https://japanfunclub.com/escort-services/[/URL]), it says GFE. Will keep you guys posted when I try (assuming they're open when I'm there).
Happy mongering!
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1 photos
[QUOTE=David032;2830045]So was browsing THC website and a few girls had Denma listed as an option what does that translate to or mean as a service.[/QUOTE]Denma is a Japanese term for a Hitachi wand type of vibrator. See attached.
With this service you're basically paying to use a high intensity vibrator.
In my view, "cum in mouth" is a lot more enjoyable!
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[QUOTE=David032;2829204]Don't forget to add in if you speak Japanese as well that can effect the price. Sometimes if you only speak English they will upsell you if you don't speak Japanese. Some places call it a language or security tax. Finding a forgeiner friendly soapland or delivery health is half the battle if you don't speak good Japanese. When I was younger and didn't mind staying up to late, I would walk around the sopaland areas and see which club was desperate near closing time. If business was bad all night at the end near closing they will allow foreigners in from time to time.[/QUOTE]And some places will tax you even if you do speak Japanese. Or they will limit your selection to women who 'go with foreigners'. Typically these are not the cream of the crop, but the less popular ladies who struggle to get customers.
It isn't always the case, but it does happen.
They will also sometimes admit foreigners early or on off hours when they don't think any Japanese guys will see what is happening. The fear in some places, especially soap lands, is that the place will get a bad reputation as being open to filthy savage foreigners with sexually transmitted diseases.
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[QUOTE=JL234;2828605]Yes soaplands are expensive but watch some of those soapland JAV porns and you get an idea of what happens (minus the sex because you will probably not get any penetration)[/QUOTE]Sorry, what?
I've been to soaplands at least 50 times over 20 years. I have always received "penetration". It's the main reason you go to a soap land!
Maybe you're talking more about the wet table massage places with the old ladies where they just jerk you off? But in soap lands you normally get sex.
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Shibuya Seafari & Young Girls in Sapporo
Had 4 visits in total while in Japan. 3 in Seafari and 1 Young Girls in Sapporo. I know this is the Tokyo form but Sapraro seems dead so will post a short review here.
Won't go into too much detail. A bit hard to find, as anything in the big cites but once I did, it was pretty straightforward. I speak 0 Japanese and relied on google translate. You enter go downstairs, the man asks if you speak Japanese. I only had one option every time I went but I knew there were other girls.
First and best was with YUNO. DFK, although pretty much everyone smokes there which is a turnoff. Good body and BBBJ.
Second time was with AI. Only LK, some acne but really nice fit ass. BBBJ as well.
Last time was with South. Not anything like the photos, fat, ugly. Can't get your money back. Didn't want BBBJ
Overall all was good value. For the same price I get a clothed massage and HJ back home. What I don't like is you don't get to see the girl before you pay. Might be different if you speak Japanese. Also you ain't getting your money back even if no deeds are done.
Young Girls in Sapporo.
Was a bit hard to find, when I found it it had 4 options none of them looked anything like a Young Girl. Photos looked alright. Jerked off to enough Japanese MILFS I figured for the price compared to other soaplands would be ok.
Boy was I wrong. Very overweight and ugly, terrible and I mean terrible teeth and smelled like an ashtray. Nice enough but the place was really rundown and I have been to some sketchy places. In the end asked for HJ as I didn't want her going anywhere near my dick with her mouth. Terrible disappointment and a bad way to end my trip. Had a much better and cheaper experience at Doki Doki in Bangkok. I would avoid the place at all costs.
I sort of got my Japanese fix although never fucked one, but still I won't go back anytime soon for mongering anyways. Otherwise great country.
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Does anyone use Seeking Arrangement in Tokyo?
I used the site years ago, pre-pandemic. Was curious if it was worth renewing my membership.
Also met a SB who has since moved back to the states that many of the foreign women listed in Tokyo as SB's should not be trust or at least heavily vetted because many of them are associated with pimps or gangs.
I wonder if there's any truth to that.
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BBFS 18 year old Japanese Girl
How much do you think it would cost for me to retain an 18-25 year old Japanese girl for consistent BBFS? I would prefer a civie but, willing to recruit from Citizen only establishments. I have many ways of pulling this off legally, just to be a good guest. Please list prices in USD. I've slept with many Japanese women so, it's not a fetish just an experience to gain data and improve my linguistics studies.
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Ikebukuro or Uguisudani
Been to Japan 4 or 5 times and when in Tokyo I like to stay in Shinjuku for action in Shinjuku or Shibuya. I've had great experiences around Dougenzaka part of Shibuya.
I stayed in Kawasaki near it's entertainment district which has some adult businesses, but it was not foreigner friendly.
This time around I'm not traveling single. However I'm trying to influence the decision to stay near Uguisudani in Taito or Ikebukuro, places I've never been to.
I'm finding out that Uguisudani has a good sized love hotel street a block from the station. Ikebukuro has all sorts of stuff I think. A mini Dougenzaka / Shibuya?
In Ikebukuro or Uguisudani, I'm uncertain if there are businesses where a foreigner can just walk in, choose a girl, and either the girl ofr the office takes you to the love hotel. Basically handling all the arrangements for me. Or even an incall would be great.
I need something walk in cause I don't know when I can get away for 1. 5-2 hrs or so. So any type of pre-arrangement would be difficult.
Any opinions? Thanks.
BTW one of my favorite experiences was booking a girl through THC, showing up at their now defunct Shibuya office, having her go with me to the love hotel and soaking in the bath with her and talking about life uninhibited.
Right now any chance to walk in and soak ina tub with a girl would be spectacular in Uguisudani or Ikebukuro.
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[QUOTE=ImTedKoppel;2835749]I'm trying to influence the decision to stay near Uguisudani...I need something walk in cause I don't know when I can get away for 1. 5-2 hrs or so. So any type of pre-arrangement would be difficult. Any opinions?[/QUOTE]If you're okay with non-Japanese you might want to try Hipness since they just reopened on the Fourth of July after being closed for more than a year due to Covid. Hipness is based in Uguisudani in the love hotel area.
[URL]https://www.hipness.jp/p_index.shtml[/URL]
The providers are primarily Thai and Filipino but definitely foreigner friendly and FS (I've never not received FS and I've never asked; it was just a given). Still, it's a delivery health place so it's not a walk-in shop and you'll need to make that phone call (in Japanese is best, many times the English speaking guy is unavailable) after you check into one of the love hotels. Just putting that out there as a potential option for you.
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Going to Japan with my girlfriend (she's Japanese so can speak but can't read / write) and she's open to me finding a girl for us both to have fun with. Any advice on what places might be open to us?
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Threesome (or more)?
[QUOTE=PieCake1234;2837192]Going to Japan with my girlfriend (she's Japanese so can speak but can't read / write) and she's open to me finding a girl for us both to have fun with. Any advice on what places might be open to us?[/QUOTE]Hey PieC, congrats on having an open-minded partner. Can you provide a bit more information on what your goals are? Are you interested in going to happening bars, straight swapping (in the same room or not), doing a threesome with your GF and another woman who is a provider / non-provider, etc? We might be able to better help if we have an idea of what you are looking for.
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[QUOTE=Taipan68;2837271]Hey PieC, congrats on having an open-minded partner. Can you provide a bit more information on what your goals are? Are you interested in going to happening bars, straight swapping (in the same room or not), doing a threesome with your GF and another woman who is a provider / non-provider, etc? We might be able to better help if we have an idea of what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]Threesome with my girlfriend is the goal and that's what we do in America since she's bi and likes girls. I think we're open to both providers and non-providers (if there's an easy bar / place for pickup of girls).
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First day ever in Japan La
Pink salon in sugamo was easy to find with all the photos to help. They are open at 11 am and I had no choice but the bigger lady. I could not get off after a hard effort for half an hour. She change between mouth and hand all for the door price of 5000 yen. Hipness only had two available so I chose the slimmer choice but she was slightly older and heavier than I like but again put in a great effort that worked. The rubbers they use are weak.
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Non asian itch
So was wondering if anyone has had any luck finding non asian girls. I know henti has a few but they are always booked or busy. Anyone have any recommendations on where else to look.
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GFE Japan M
Saw M recently and have to say one of the best experiences I have ever had. She was friendly nice and a lot of fun. LOL she wouldn't do anal as said on website but she of course offered to switch it normal with no problem. I think we went like 4 rounds for the 90 minutes it was great. So far I have been liking GFE Japan they just don't have the selection of girls that henti does unfortunately.
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[QUOTE=David032;2839986]Saw Mia recently and have to say one of the best experiences I have ever had. She was friendly nice and a lot of fun. LOL she wouldn't do anal as said on website but she of course offered to switch it normal with no problem. I think we went like 4 rounds for the 90 minutes it was great. So far I have been liking GFE Japan they just don't have the selection of girls that henti does unfortunately.[/QUOTE]In Japan "anal" or AF is usually an indication that VF (or FS in the west) is available, as it is illegal to offer or advertise the latter choice.
Sometimes accidents happen and they put it in the wrong hole LOL.
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[QUOTE=David032;2839985]So was wondering if anyone has had any luck finding non asian girls. I know henti has a few but they are always booked or busy. Anyone have any recommendations on where else to look.[/QUOTE]I suspect non-asian girls would be playing in the more lucrative market of hostess clubs for Japanese men. Try some of the escort sites, like smooci,.
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GFE Japan AvA
Worst experience I have ever had she is 20 pounds heavier than her pictures. Way darker skin tone in person barely recognized her in person. Had to basically demand she give me oral. She kept saying she was shy. She wanted the lights off if not she wouldn't get naked. Experiences may vary but if that was my first experience with the agency wouldn't see her again.
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Thc kasane
She is new so I got a discount of 5000 yen but you must ask for it. They advertise on the website the discount if the new girl had not worked three days yet. They pictures are not her but I like her better that the pictures. Her English skills are lacking but advertisement states conversational. She is slim with A cups and a youthful face. They advertised 20 but she stated 23 years old which is about right. The BBBJ is 3000 yen extra option and the FS is extra 20000 yen so this should answer that question. The 20000 yen original fee is with the 5000 yen off but they added 2000 for delivery to my business hotel in ginza. She LFK and I finished with a HJ and digits. She has worked In New York before.
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[QUOTE=HobbyMaster;2840180] Her English skills are lacking. She has worked In New York before.[/QUOTE]On your scale of 1 to 10, how lacking are her English skills?
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[QUOTE=Taipan68;2840549]On your scale of 1 to 10, how lacking are her English skills?[/QUOTE]Lacking as in barely non existent so a one. She worked in New York in the Chinese places so no English skills needed there. She did not understand much English either. I am disappointed at all the lies.
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I use it
[QUOTE=GaijinRoamer;2833757]I used the site years ago, pre-pandemic. Was curious if it was worth renewing my membership.
Also met a SB who has since moved back to the states that many of the foreign women listed in Tokyo as SB's should not be trust or at least heavily vetted because many of them are associated with pimps or gangs.
I wonder if there's any truth to that.[/QUOTE]Honestly not sure if pimps are involved I haven't encountered any but the options are slim. Most girls are simply traveling or visiting. So you have a small window to try and see her.
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[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2840057]In Japan "anal" or AF is usually an indication that VF (or FS in the west) is available, as it is illegal to offer or advertise the latter choice.
Sometimes accidents happen and they put it in the wrong hole LOL.[/QUOTE]I figured that out which is why I try and pick the anal friendly girls. I also noticed if you treat the girl right she'll give you the options the shop wants you to pay extra for. Of course I tip her if she does but it goes so much smoother.
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Tokyo Night style
Tokyo night style is pretty decent review site for all the services in Tokyo. They have quite a few reviews of all the various shops. Most of their reviews of individual girls are slightly dated they haven't produced very many new reviews recently. They also have several video date reviews so it's a good option to get an idea of the girls. So if your new to Tokyo it's a good resource to utilize. If I had found it sooner would have been a significant help.
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[QUOTE=David032;2839985]So was wondering if anyone has had any luck finding non asian girls. I know henti has a few but they are always booked or busy. Anyone have any recommendations on where else to look.[/QUOTE]Google Blonde Health in Japanese. There are shops with Eastern Europeans / Russians / Ukrainians what will likely service you. They also sometimes have Latinas.
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[QUOTE=PieCake1234;2838106]Threesome with my girlfriend is the goal and that's what we do in America since she's bi and likes girls. I think we're open to both providers and non-providers (if there's an easy bar / place for pickup of girls).[/QUOTE]You might get lucky in a lesbian bar. If you show up with her it will probably be pretty obvious what you are into.
Calling a provider you may find there are plenty of bi gals who will do couples. It'll take some Japanese skills though, as I am guessing these don't normally have an English speaking clientle.
https://lesbian-tokyo.jp/news/#1807275
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Heading to Tokyo in 2 days. Any advice for a Tokyo newbie?
Familiar with FKK's and Thailand. But heading to Tokyo with a friend for some fun, before we head to Vietnam and then Thailand.
Staying in the Shinjuku area and will be going out each night for food and fun.
Does anyone have any advice?
Questions -.
1. I like stripe clubs (from the US) where you can get extra milage, is this possible in Japan?
2. I've read about the pink salons (BJ bars) and soaplands so any recommendations on these is appreciated.
3. Is trying to take a pro off the street back to your hotel recommended? Does this even exist in Japan?
4. Can I get FS in a karaoke bar?
5. What else is there that is guaranteed P4P in Tokyo?
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What I know
[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2842091]Familiar with FKK's and Thailand. But heading to Tokyo with a friend for some fun, before we head to Vietnam and then Thailand.
Staying in the Shinjuku area and will be going out each night for food and fun.
Does anyone have any advice?
Questions -.
1. I like stripe clubs (from the US) where you can get extra milage, is this possible in Japan?
2. I've read about the pink salons (BJ bars) and soaplands so any recommendations on these is appreciated.
3. Is trying to take a pro off the street back to your hotel recommended? Does this even exist in Japan?
4. Can I get FS in a karaoke bar?
5. What else is there that is guaranteed P4P in Tokyo?[/QUOTE]If you don't know how to speak Japanese, check out Jan Jan (BJ), why-Shirt (Soap), and Barubola (Soap). All the mentioned establishments allow foreigners. DO NOT pick up streetworkers. Some are underaged and there is police presence near them in Shinjuku. Video streamers hover around street walkers and shame buyers.
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2842091]3. Is trying to take a pro off the street back to your hotel recommended? Does this even exist in Japan?[/QUOTE]In the Shinjuku area, around Okubo Park there are 100's of hookers in the northwest part of Kabukicho. I've noticed them drifting towards Kabukicho Tower in recent months.
There are also Western style strips clubs in Roppongi. Seventh Heaven, Zeus, Tantra, Madam Woo to name a few. Haven't been to any for some time.
I personally prefer Osaka where girls are younger and prettier imo.
Have fun and please report back.
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Some answers
[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2842091]Familiar with FKK's and Thailand. But heading to Tokyo with a friend for some fun, before we head to Vietnam and then Thailand.
Questions -.
1. I like stripe clubs (from the US) where you can get extra milage, is this possible in Japan?
I have not seen strip clubs much in Asia. Gogo bars are the closest to strip clubs.
2. I've read about the pink salons (BJ bars) and soaplands so any recommendations on these is appreciated.
Plenty of info in this forum. Just keep reading.
3. Is trying to take a pro off the street back to your hotel recommended? Does this even exist in Japan?
Yes, i have done it in Tokyo many times. In fact, it is my favorite way of mongering in Asia.
4. Can I get FS in a karaoke bar?
5. What else is there that is guaranteed P4P in Tokyo?[/QUOTE]See some info embedded above.
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Akasaka region inputs needed
Hey guys I will be travelling to Japan for a week. I will be staying near Roppongi-Akasaka area. Can you please help me with legit inputs. First time in Japan and don't speak Japanese. Just wanted to know few points.
1. Strip club / Night club rules. Private dance, lap dance what's the norm how much to tip in this area.
I googled and found a few ones like tantra, 7th heaven etc. Let me know which ones are great for non-Japanese guys.
2. Is it ok to pickup girls from bars in Japan or is it some cultural taboo.
3. Where can I get girls to fuck any decent website. I would avoid MR as many are frauds.
Please let me know your tips if any.
Thanks.
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Need inputs in Akasaka area
I will be staying in the Akasaka roppongi area. Iam an indian around 42 yrs age with smart looks, athelete body and well travelled. However Japan is my first time. I would like to know about a few tips from guys on the below points.
1. Strip Club / Night club rules. I could google and find a few bars like 7th heaven, tantra etc. Any feedback on which bars have better girls which one of them are non-japanese friendly.
2. Picking normal girls in bars is it ok or is it some clultural taboo. Are japanese girls averse to indians.
3. Tips about any japanese sites which can be read in english ofcourse not MR but something which is more genuine and gives tips on how to get more info. How much do the hookers or call girls chage in Japan / What is the norm, is it catalog rates like DFK 2 k, FS, 5 k, what about full service. What are any gotchas?
Thanks.
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Total damage of extras with sensual-massage girls
[QUOTE=Vitrea;2825449]Last week I reported about my mediocre ginza massage experience. I had a chance to go back to Tokyo again this week. I was doing random Google searches, and I ran into this place, called
https://sensual-massage.jp/
The website had attractive looking women, prices seem reasonable and most importantly they communicated on WhatsApp. I message them around early afternoon. The person on the other end responded with 13 choices. It was hard to choose based on photographs as every one of them looked quite cute. For 20,000 included oral services on top of the erotic massage and shower. I decide to take a chance.
I asked for a slim and athletic and I chose from among the taller ones. I know most Japanese girls are quite petite but within my available choices, I tend to choose toddler girls, 160 cm iplus.
My first choice was Moa. She arrived punctually. As always, she's a little older than advertised, but I believe if she's under 30 very pleasant face, nice body and amazing attitude she gently undressed me and let me to the shower. We shower together with generous soap, and attention to the privates. In the bed, she asked what kind of massage I wanted and I preferred a heart massage. She gave me a pretty decent hard massage for 10 minutes, but then switch to soft perineal massage my experience with her was amazing. I wasn't prepared with extra cash, so I did not go for any extras. Extras are clearly available.
My original plan was to go to a Soapland after the first massage. Since this is my first time in Tokyo and I don't know my whereabouts I decided not to venture out given the similar pricing structure and the girl that came to my room was quite cute and we really connected. She spoke decent English, and genuinely shared some interesting life perspectives. I definitely want to see her again before I leave Japan..[/QUOTE]Hey man,
Thanks for the report, checked out the sensual-massage site and it looks pretty legit.
Would you mind letting us know the damage for the extras offered.
I might be interested in the FS and would you say it's a service all girls would offer or it depends on which girl I choose. Thanks.
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JanJan. Sugamo
Recently went to JanJan twice in one week. Was in town for work and wanted to engage in something no frills, simple, and relatively stress free. I have almost zero Japanese and I'm a very visible foreigner.
1st visit. Went around noon-ish. I believe they open at noon. I had a lot of obligations that day and wanted to face the day with a release. No tout out front, walked down to the basement. Was greeted by a male employee, probably around 50. He spoke in simple enough Japanese so I could understand it and quoted me 3000 yen. I gave him 4000, with the extra 1000 yen as a 'thank you' gesture for not giving me a hard time or speaking in long, complicated Japanese in an effort to weed me out. I've walked by Japanese who were visibly shocked by my presence when I walked around a corner, this guy didn't bat an eye and it's always appreciated.
Was lead to the booth and sat down. Since it was blindingly bright outside, it took a moment for my eyes to adjust and was able to notice that the place was completely empty. My presence was made known over a loud speaker and after about 5 minutes a woman came out. Average body, probably around 35 or so. Cute and very friendly. We did the disinfectant dance. She removed her top and underwear, but left on her loose fitting nightgown, and went to work. I rubbed my hand on her ass and she gave me the 'daijobu' that was it was okay to play with her p*why. Unloaded in her mouth. She disposed of it, cleaned me up again, thanked me for visiting and lead me to the door where she bid me farewell once again.
2nd visit. Went around 8 o'clock in the evening a few days later. Again, no tout. Met by an older woman who was probably in her 60's. She quoted me 4000 yen (unlike the 3000 the gentleman had), she also counted it again once I handed it to her (the male didn't do that, just quickly pocketed the cash and lead me back). This time, about 5 other people were in the shop and the place was filled with loud slurping noises. Almost similar to loud, porn level slurping. Kind of ridiculous, but I was into it. Lead to a booth and sat down. I did a quick and dirty translation on a flyer that was posted in the booth and it said something along the lines of, 'Our service includes 1 drink'. I'm assuming that's the legal workaround. I don't know if that was intentional or they just didn't have enough staff to go around, but I waited for about 15 or so minutes, which felt like an eternity. I do know that I was serviced after a couple of guys who arrived after me. That's a bummer, but considering the precedent of rejecting foreigners altogether, I can't say that I'm entirely shocked.
Finally, a woman in her late 40's, chubby-ish body, shows up. I'm not attracted to her, but I don't find her heinous or anything. But she's extremely enthusiastic and even tries her best to speak English to me. Did the same disinfectant routine. Instead of just taking off her bra and panties, like the first woman, she gets completely nude. Again, I'm not attracted to her, but she wasn't bad, just mom body. This time was a little more toothy, but more vigorous. And when I started to finish, instead of sitting still like the first woman, she actually dug her face into my crotch to get it all down her throat. That was pretty hot. After finishing up she asked me a few questions including whether or not I was a musician. Again, I'm very visibly the foreigner. The chatter was a nice touch.
I don't know if I'll take a visit to JanJan again the next time I'm sent to Tokyo for work, but I didn't hate it. However, with the exchange rate of the USD on the yen, 3000/4000 yen is barely above dinner and drinks. That price is negligible. I didn't appreciate the micro-aggressions of the woman up front on my second visit, but what are you going to do? If I would have spent 20,000 to 40,000 yen and had someone make me wait after customers whom I arrived before, I would have been irked and would have made it known. But oh well.
Overall, both instances of oral were energetic and definitely got the job done.
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Advice
[QUOTE=RahulSoman;2842368]I will be staying in the Akasaka roppongi area. Iam an indian around 42 yrs age with smart looks, athelete body and well travelled. However Japan is my first time. I would like to know about a few tips from guys on the below points.
1. Strip Club / Night club rules. I could google and find a few bars like 7th heaven, tantra etc. Any feedback on which bars have better girls which one of them are non-japanese friendly.
2. Picking normal girls in bars is it ok or is it some clultural taboo. Are japanese girls averse to indians.
3. Tips about any japanese sites which can be read in english ofcourse not MR but something which is more genuine and gives tips on how to get more info. How much do the hookers or call girls chage in Japan / What is the norm, is it catalog rates like DFK 2 k, FS, 5 k, what about full service. What are any gotchas?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Stripclubs are a waste of time in Japan. Unless your just a strip club addict. There are a few that do allow girls to be taken out but foreigners aren't allowed in. Honestly your much better off with just the delivery health options. If you go to Tokyo night style they have reviews of tons and also list English / foreigner friendly ones as well. Also it's mentioned before but it you want FS look for girls who do anal fuck they usually just say swap then your good to go.
If your ever talking to anyone never offer or ask to pay to have pussy sex it's illegal may be sting or they will instantly ignore you. Most delivery girls will always offer full service if you offer to add about 20 to 30 k extra. But you also always want to ask for it once there hand has touched your penis.
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Cultural Etiquette advice
So I have been in Japan before and upon returning jumped right back into it. Some advice to people using the services to help improve there experience. Other senior people please chime.
1. Learn a quick basic phrases Hello, how are you, my name is. They are all pretty simple to learn. If you don't feel comfortable have it typed out on a translator that small action usually makes most girls feelmore comfortable they appreciate the attempt. Have your translator ready to go.
2. Arrive looking clean and smelling clean.
3. Always ask for a shower if they don't offer it. Unless it's a really low end service the delivery girls appreciate it. Also the sensual shower rub down is very good. That being said don't get the instant BJ options most services offer it's a waste of money it's pre shower as well. The patience to wait for the shower will be well worth the it. Plus the shower is also a really good sign on how the date will go. If she has it in her mouth in shower good date she barely touched it going to be an ok date.
4. Let the girl take the lead as much as possible go slow, it leads to a so much of a better experience. Unlike most other places and countries the girls will want to make sure your satisfied.
5. Do not ask for a girls private number on a first date unless she offers it first. You can promise to see her again if she likes you she might give you her number. Asking on a first date can lead to you being blacklisted by that agency. I have seen one girl three times on the third date she offered her number and said text her directly.
6. Always take the option with multiple pops. If you truly want FS the second pop is where you have a higher chance of getting her to agree.
7. Paying for FS is illegal, paying for oral or anal or a sensual message isn't. If you really want full service look for girls who do anal fuck or just anal. Most of them don't actually do anal that's the code for FS. Like I said on another post don't ask for FS till your dick is in her mouth. Also honestly if you get the multiple pop option I have had a few girls let me put it in without paying extra there was effort on my part fingering oral teasing but hey didn't cost me much extra.
8. If you want the best experiences learn Japanese. There delivery health services that legitimately have non pros who only work when they need extra money. Or the are papa katsu sites that are japanese version of sugar babies.
9 it's legal so take your time and relax and have fun.
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Going to Japan for the first time, need some guidance please
I've been reading this forum, experienced Monger in many countries. First time in Japan.
1) what are the "delivery health options".
2) where / what site can I see for options?
3) what are the trusted agencies that deal with foreigners?
4) are there bi Japanese girls? Going with my wife and she'd love to have a 3 some with a Japanese cutie, but mandatory requirement is the girl must be totally shaven. None of this JAV stuff.
Thanks a lot!
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Additional JanJan info
After writing and submitting my initial review, I came across an additional bit of info that suggested that JanJan was more expensive in the evenings. So I'd like to apologize for that.
I had never seen that mentioned before and even the placard outside still mentioned 3,000 yen when I arrived that evening.
Again, my apologies.
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[QUOTE=GaijinRoamer;2842812]After writing and submitting my initial review, I came across an additional bit of info that suggested that JanJan was more expensive in the evenings. So I'd like to apologize for that.
I had never seen that mentioned before and even the placard outside still mentioned 3,000 yen when I arrived that evening.
Again, my apologies.[/QUOTE]Is there any DFK to start?
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[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2843010]Is there any DFK to start?[/QUOTE]It wasn't offered to me and I didn't request it. However, the second woman I saw seemed pretty enthusiastic and go with the flow. She was handsy and a bit of a close talker. I'm almost certain if I would have went in for it, she would have been okay with it.
It goes without saying: YMMV.
For 3000 yen, there are absolutely worse ways to spend your money and 30 minutes.
Side note: Are there any maid cafe type establishments in Tokyo that actually allow for a release? I like the aesthetic and the energy, but I don't want to spend 5,000 yen for crappy omurice with cats drawn on it.
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[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2843010]Is there any DFK to start?[/QUOTE]Back in BC (before covid) all the hummer joints started you off with 2-3 minutes of attempted tonsillectomy by tongue. I never found it all that great, myself, but would just go along. When you think about how many dicks have been in that mouth, it starts to lose appeal. My favorite place, which sadly closed a long time ago, was Supergirls in Shimbashi. One of the girls there would find a way in the little booth to position her twat in your face while blowing you. Those were good days!
As noted by others, yea the basic fee that is posted out front is the early charge. After some point in time, probably around 17:00 or so, it goes up a bit. Damn I miss Tokyo.
Enjoy!
TT.
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Just got back in tokyo
I went to this thing called Tokyo Hentai club and booked Yoshika. Incall place in Shinjuku.
For those whos asking why I only reviewed GFE, I didn't have much time when I came there the first time. (Want me to review your mama) LOL.
Anyway another trip to Japan and another set of meetings and experiences with the beautiful Yoshika. She has a sparkling personality and is a great conversationalist. Of course her services are outstanding as well. She is attentive and makes you feel very comfortable and connected. Hate to leave but look forward to seeing her again on my next trip.
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=1061[/URL]
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Thanks
[QUOTE=TheTanuki;2843746]Back in BC (before covid) all the hummer joints started you off with 2-3 minutes of attempted tonsillectomy by tongue. I never found it all that great, myself, but would just go along. When you think about how many dicks have been in that mouth, it starts to lose appeal. My favorite place, which sadly closed a long time ago, was Supergirls in Shimbashi. One of the girls there would find a way in the little booth to position her twat in your face while blowing you. Those were good days!
As noted by others, yea the basic fee that is posted out front is the early charge. After some point in time, probably around 17:00 or so, it goes up a bit. Damn I miss Tokyo..[/QUOTE]I don't know about you guys but I want to start with my tongue in her mouth and a lot of saliva Deep DFK before she sucks me, Any P.S. Recommendations appreciated.
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How can I find places that do 3 P couples? Please help with links, or via DM in private.
Going to Japan in 2 days, time is running low and I'm still confused about the mongering scene there after having tons of experience elsewhere.
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Read the forum
[QUOTE=LaserFantasy2;2844336]How can I find places that do 3 P couples? Please help with links, or via DM in private.
Going to Japan in 2 days, time is running low and I'm still confused about the mongering scene there after having tons of experience elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Read the forum it's all there but guess I'll summarize since you don't understand it.
Prostitution is illegal in Japan. But they define prostitution as vaginal sex. So while that's illegal it's perfectly legal to pay for a BJ or anal.
Services in Japan fall into a few categories. The first delivery health which is the closet version to escorting as it's known in the us and around the world. The girl shows up you take a shower and bath together and she gives you oral. 60 minutes is usually about 30 k to 80 k depending on the level of the company you use. They have incall and outcall versions. Delivery health compamoes all have paid extras, swallowing, CIM, video, threesomes, anal (though anal normally means they will do vaginal in person they will say to big I do normal sex instead.) Cosplay BDSM, threesomes each girl usually has what extras she's ok with on the website. Delivery health is pretty explanatory.
Next is massage services incall pitcallthat range as well from 30 k to 80 k. That is more targeted to nuru / sensual massage, hand job, happy ending, tit jobs and might say this wrong Sumatra where she puts your junk between her thighs by her pussy to stimulate you. Extras can be negotiated but it's usually a case by case basis.
Next BJ bars / hand job bars which are way cheaper and you legitimately go in hey sucked or jerked off for 3 to 5) yens. Catch is you really don't get to pick who takes care of you.
Soaplands are a mixture between massage places and delivery health I don't use them myself so I don't speak to them.
Tokyo night style is a review / advertising site for foreigner friendly shops. They have plenty of reviews.
The two shops I have used is GFE Japan, and henti Tokyo both are awesome but your experiences can vary.
Average cost for me has been about 70 k for that I usually get 90 minutes unlimited pops, full sex with swallowing. I have gotten as low as 40 k when the girl liked me and let me get all extras no extra charge.
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Absolutely Terrible
[QUOTE=Vitrea;2825449]https://sensual-massage.jp/
I asked for a slim and athletic...[/QUOTE]Based on your post I decided to try sensual-massage. Jp but my experience was not good. Perhaps it was the girl I chose? Like you, I requested a very slim and athletic girl, and they gave me a recommendation which I accepted. The girl who arrived was not the same girl from the photos at all. She had very saggy boobs, a drooping stomach with a large vertical scar, and was overweight enough that I couldn't even see her pussy. Oh well, on with the show I guess. The massage last 3 minutes then she started a blowjob, but a condom was required. Damn, I hate CBJ. And get this, after a terrible CBJ, the handjob was also done with the condom on. Unbelievable! Plus there was no kissing or touching allowed. She tried to make me cum as fast as possible, but I wasn't going to cum from a condom handjob. Finally she decided to stroke it without the condom. The technique was still bad though, and eventually she gave up and left. Also, she didn't speak a word of English, but that would have been fine if she gave good service. I didn't see her pussy once. It was off limits. She offered extras, but I was so turned off by the whole experience that I declined. Again, maybe I picked the wrong girl, but this was the girl they recommended based on me describing what I wanted. That is not a good way to get repeat customers.
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C3p
[QUOTE=LaserFantasy2;2844336]How can I find places that do 3 P couples? Please help with links, or via DM in private.
Going to Japan in 2 days, time is running low and I'm still confused about the mongering scene there after having tons of experience elsewhere.[/QUOTE]There's a lot of places that offers it, Try this 3 Shops.
[URL]https://gfe-japan.net/home[/URL]
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.shadymotion.com/[/URL]
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CBJ is the Worst!
[QUOTE=HughJass;2844710]Based on your post I decided to try sensual-massage. Jp but my experience was not good. Perhaps it was the girl I chose? Like you, I requested a very slim and athletic girl, and they gave me a recommendation which I accepted. The girl who arrived was not the same girl from the photos at all. She had very saggy boobs, a drooping stomach with a large vertical scar, and was overweight enough that I couldn't even see her pussy. Oh well, on with the show I guess. The massage last 3 minutes then she started a blowjob, but a condom was required. Damn, I hate CBJ. And get this, after a terrible CBJ, the handjob was also done with the condom on. Unbelievable! Plus there was no kissing or touching allowed. She tried to make me cum as fast as possible, but I wasn't going to cum from a condom handjob. Finally she decided to stroke it without the condom. The technique was still bad though, and eventually she gave up and left. Also, she didn't speak a word of English, but that would have been fine if she gave good service. I didn't see her pussy once. It was off limits. She offered extras, but I was so turned off by the whole experience that I declined. Again, maybe I picked the wrong girl, but this was the girl they recommended based on me describing what I wanted. That is not a good way to get repeat customers.[/QUOTE]I was tempted by the last review as well but I've got to say your's saved me the bucks and time. I can feel the disappointment in your writing. I'm sure It's not the wrong girl you chose tho. Probably they have a few more of those they send here and there regardless of what you ask. CBJ is the worst!! And I've never heard of CHJ, she must've been insane to even attempt that.
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Stopped by Seafari while I was in the Shibuya area. Easy to find thanks to the info here.
Arrived around 10:15 AM and while six ladies were on duty, I was informed only two were available to me (I am Caucasian). One would be available at 10:30 and the other at 10:50. I elected to wait for the earlier choice. 6000 yen for 30 minutes.
At the appointed time a curvy, attractive MILF came to fetch me. Her name ended in -iko. Niko? Aiko? Couldn't make it out over the music. The enclosed room setup has advantages over JanJan but I like hearing other clients getting serviced. Kinda my thing.
Quick SF2 and back to the room. Some LFK and then the condom came out. Say what? I am used to BBBJ at JanJan. Iko seemed shocked and gave a half-hearted BBBJ. Finished the session with DATY and a release on her tummy. Not a great experience but maybe an off day.
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Milkybaby
I knew about this place for quite some time as I have a fetish for lactation and love JAV. I was in Tokyo for work and thought of trying it out. I didn't have a Japanese SIM and so communication was over email. However, replies were quite fast. Went to their office at Ikebukuro which is a small 1 room with girls inside. I was allotted REN. Communicated with her through Google translate. Went to a nearby love hotel. The girl was pretty, nice tits and the milk flow was excellent. She sprayed it all over and I had a fill of all that milk. Came with BJ and HJ. It was expensive, however, crossed out one of the fantasies.
Expense - 27000 + 3800 (love hotel).
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[QUOTE=Charles96;2844857]I was tempted by the last review as well but I've got to say your's saved me the bucks and time. I can feel the disappointment in your writing. I'm sure It's not the wrong girl you chose tho. Probably they have a few more of those they send here and there regardless of what you ask. CBJ is the worst!! And I've never heard of CHJ, she must've been insane to even attempt that.[/QUOTE]Oh, I've had a Kurfόrstenstraίe girl in Berlin give me a CHJ in a porn booth. I managed to climax with the help of a video clip of a pneumatic tanned blonde enthusiastically taking a very large cock, but wouldn't recommend it and never returned. In the same city I also had a Vietnamese stripper insist on two condoms for F / S, which was as deflating as it sounds. But this was a decade ago and I would walk these days and save my money.
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Jan Jan blow job bar visit
I had a few days in Tokyo on a recent trip, my first to Japan, and got to briefly dip my toe in the water of mongering there. I don't speak a word of Japanese, was travelling with friends, and knew from reading up ahead of visiting that as a foreigner you can't just waltz in somewhere, flash some notes and stumble through what you're after using Google translate, so my options were limited.
In the end I decided I'd try to go with a blow job bar, both because I'd always wanted to visit one (whereas you can get erotic massage or bang Asian escorts in the UK) and because it seemed more discreet then chancing a hotel outcall given I was travelling with non-mongers not in on my P4 P hobbying.
I did some research and settled on Jan Jan, largely because the COVID-19 pandemic seemed to have done away with most of the other foreigner-friendly pink salons, and because I genuinely enjoy getting blowjobs from older escorts, who are usually getting at it than their younger, hotter counterparts.
Jan Jan is mentioned in multiple reports if you give a quick Google search, so I won't bore regular visitors with details on where to find it, but I can confirm it is pretty much as described in websites like the Rockit Reports. Knowing what to expect, I had a good time, but if you prefer beautiful younger women be aware you're not allowed to pick whoever sucks you off.
In my case I turned up and got ushered downstairs into a dimly lit basement with multiple high backed couches, being quickly parked on one of these at the back by the mama-san. The damage was 4,000 yen and the place appeared average to low end, with music being broadcast to cover all the sex noises. The nice thing about it was that it was relatively anonymous, which was exactly what I was going for on my first visit to one of these places. I could see the back of a Japanese guy's head on the couch in front of mine and brief flashes of what looked like an attractive brunette dyed lady chatting with him, but didn't expect the same on my own account, lacking Japanese skills or the ability to pass as I did.
When my lady turned up I could see she was older (40's) but the low light hid my fat ass and her features. Best guess she was an actual Japanese working girl, but can't confirm (name was Lisa). Not problems with her performance though, as she skipped the chatting and got down to business with a lot of lingering licks and kisses down my body. I love a girl who does foreplay, so the session hit that crucial early test where you know the action is going to be good and that sets you up for a successful conclusion. I'll skip the details expect to say that at one point she was sideways on the bench, slurping on my cock and balls while supporting herself with one arm, which was a new one on me.
Suffice to say, you get what you pay for; where I to return to Japan I'd definitely broaden my horizons as well as try to sleep with younger escorts. However, I'd also be happy to return to Jan Jan.
And go several more rounds with the MILF OWO CIM specialists there.
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Attempting to expand my horizons with a newhalf.
I'll be back in Japan in about 2 months time and I'd like to continue to explore. I've read several accounts across the web of men who are curious about transwomen taking the plunge in Japan as opposed to their home country because the transwomen in Asian often do a better job of 'passing'. I don't wish to sound insensitive or rude, but that's the only way I can really describe it without reducing to a confusing word salad.
I'd be interested in booking a session with a newhalf or transwoman, however. After doing a bit of digging, so many of the women use facetuning apps to the point of being unrecognizable. Can anyone point me to the socials of a newhalf provider whose online pictures aren't completely misleading?
I've seen Ren from LIBE recommended several times across the web, but I once saw her moving around and speaking in a video that was not facetuned or heavily doctored, and she looks NOTHING like her pictures.
[URL]https://twitter.com/Ren_LIBE[/URL]
Again, I don't wish to be insensitive or offensive, as I am curious, but I would like to seek out someone who is a bit more passing and effeminate beyond pitching their voice, a wig, and women's clothing.
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Links for outcall (GFE) in Kawasaki
Hi guys,
Do you have any good links for outcall (GFE services if possible) for Kawasaki area? Any help is appreciated, as googling this. I have no idea what is scam and what not.
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Read the forums
[QUOTE=Smeagolcina;2850644]Hi guys,
Do you have any good links for outcall (GFE services if possible) for Kawasaki area? Any help is appreciated, as googling this. I have no idea what is scam and what not.[/QUOTE]Litterly within the first three pages is all the information you need links to several websites. Names of review websites.
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[QUOTE=David032;2851117]Litterly within the first three pages is all the information you need links to several websites. Names of review websites.[/QUOTE]3 posts in 6 years, all asking for others to do research for him.
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[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2851509]3 posts in 6 years, all asking for others to do research for him.[/QUOTE]At least he's consistent.
Gotta love these guys who only ask for info and never provide any reviews about who they saw and bars they went to.
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Does anyone know if Tokyo Hentai Club requires your hotel to be nearby for outcalls?
I don't want to book a hotel and find out it's too far for outcalls.
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[QUOTE=SoManyGuidelin;2852189]Does anyone know if Tokyo Hentai Club requires your hotel to be nearby for outcalls?
I don't want to book a hotel and find out it's too far for outcalls.[/QUOTE]Look in the price item, scroll down for delivery fees to various areas. Be aware some hotels may not allow a visitor but most will.
Teltel.
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Website
[QUOTE=SoManyGuidelin;2852189]Does anyone know if Tokyo Hentai Club requires your hotel to be nearby for outcalls?
I don't want to book a hotel and find out it's too far for outcalls.[/QUOTE]Pay attention to there website it lists the areas they deliver to and also the upcharge for delivery to those areas. Keep in mind for outcall they will need the hotel and room number. They will be calling the hotel to confirm your staying there unless it's a love hotel. Where they will ask to see you receipt for the room your in.
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Dating Clubs
So another option in for quick easy paid sex. Only issue the girls will speak zero English most likely. These options are Japanese dating clubs or Japanese matching apps.
I am a member of one dating club that's tied to a matching app. Not going to share which one just do your own research it exists. The main reason I won't is while these apps are ridiculously easy once found. You have to have some ability to go through Japanese only pages and website. Google translate does work and help I use it all the time. In Japanese search for matching apps for daddy actives many options should come up. It works so well I have honestly stopped using seeking henti or any of the others.
My only problem now is to many options. Average cost for a date is between 40 k to 60 k some AV and gruave models use it they are around 100 k. Within 24 hours of joining I had 4 dates arranged canceled one she kept asking for more. The other was an AV start who I was late due to train and she increased the price so I bailed. The other two were awesome both 60 k each met for a quick meal then off to a love hotel no rushing. For all you degenerates I get the feeling the matching sites if you like raw it's the site for you. Least one of the girls gave me the kinda we can do that but I want more look but I just put the condom on and proceeded. Also one or two dates in if they know your serious I am sure you can take it off.
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[QUOTE=David032;2852828]My only problem now is too many options. Average cost for a date is between 40 k to 60 k some AV and gruave models use it they are around 100 k. Within 24 hours of joining I had 4 dates arranged canceled one she kept asking for more. The other was an AV start who I was late due to train and she increased the price so I bailed. The other two were awesome both 60 k each met for a quick meal then off to a love hotel no rushing. For all you degenerates I get the feeling the matching sites if you like raw it's the site for you. Least one of the girls gave me the kinda we can do that but I want more look but I just put the condom on and proceeded. Also one or two dates in if they know you're serious I am sure you can take it off.[/QUOTE]For semipros and independents, for 60 k you should definitely be getting NN. The standard rate in Tokyo for regular girls is 20 k for CFS, 30 k for BBFS (NS in Japanese), and 40 for BBFS with creampie (NN in Japanese). If you can speak Japanese, you can get these prices from the street walkers in Shinjuku.
For deli health girls you can usually get NS for +10 k and NN for +20 k.
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Not the same thing
[QUOTE=Xslikx;2853012]For semipros and independents, for 60 k you should definitely be getting NN. The standard rate in Tokyo for regular girls is 20 k for CFS, 30 k for BBFS (NS in Japanese), and 40 for BBFS with creampie (NN in Japanese). If you can speak Japanese, you can get these prices from the street walkers in Shinjuku.
For deli health girls you can usually get NS for +10 k and NN for +20 k.[/QUOTE]Yes but these aren't pro girls most are university students and normal working girls. These are non pros for those prices who stay for hours if not over night. Also going back to the point I did this with zero spoken Japanese. Zero negoations. I don't negoatiate with these girls no need. Much better experience and don't do street walkers in Japan to many underage girls. In Shinjuku they are watching and will pop you the moment you do anything. You'll never even know she was underage till it's to late.
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Street walkers in Japan
So if you dig through this forum you'll find the locations of the street walkers. Unlike other countries I would avoid street walkers in Japan. The main reason is simple the vast Majority are underage girls. Unless super familiar with Japanese physique you won't be able to tell at a glance and the girls will lir to you. In fact the cops are ready to pick you up for that. I actually witnessed a bust last week he made it a block over and blame walked into the police station. Even then it's a gamble there are so many other options for legal girls to pursue that mainly only the underage girls try street walking.
The second reason is most are rejects from various escort shops and can't keep jobs there. Usually because of multiple issues. A big one being STDs the shops do require regular checks up these girls don't have to. Also performance issues unlike other countries where the only way to complain are underground forums. In Japan the customer can complain to the shop. Get enough complaints the girls get cut.
The amount of money you might save isn't really worth it to be honest. If you used the Shinjuku area pick up you could litterly walk a few blocks over and utilize a bunch of the escort shops. Yes we get charged a Ganjin fee but it's peanuts with the current exchange rate.
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Agree
[QUOTE=David032;2853419]So if you dig through this forum you'll find the locations of the street walkers. Unlike other countries I would avoid street walkers in Japan. The main reason is simple the vast Majority are underage girls. Unless super familiar with Japanese physique you won't be able to tell at a glance and the girls will lir to you. In fact the cops are ready to pick you up for that. I actually witnessed a bust last week he made it a block over and blame walked into the police station. Even then it's a gamble there are so many other options for legal girls to pursue that mainly only the underage girls try street walking.
The second reason is most are rejects from various escort shops and can't keep jobs there. Usually because of multiple issues. A big one being STDs the shops do require regular checks up these girls don't have to. Also performance issues unlike other countries where the only way to complain are underground forums. In Japan the customer can complain to the shop. Get enough complaints the girls get cut.
The amount of money you might save isn't really worth it to be honest. If you used the Shinjuku area pick up you could litterly walk a few blocks over and utilize a bunch of the escort shops. Yes we get charged a Ganjin fee but it's peanuts with the current exchange rate.[/QUOTE]Sex is everywhere in Japan once you actively look for it, especially in Tokyo and Osaka. Japan also has a 99% conviction rate. The last thing you need to worry about is legal troubles while on vacation. Do you research ahead of time and have fun. If you can afford a trip to Japan, you can afford the added foreigner fee.
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Reason for underage
[QUOTE=David032;2853419]So if you dig through this forum you'll find the locations of the street walkers. Unlike other countries I would avoid street walkers in Japan. The main reason is simple the vast Majority are underage girls. Unless super familiar with Japanese physique you won't be able to tell at a glance and the girls will lir to you. In fact the cops are ready to pick you up for that. I actually witnessed a bust last week he made it a block over and blame walked into the police station. Even then it's a gamble there are so many other options for legal girls to pursue that mainly only the underage girls try street walking.
The second reason is most are rejects from various escort shops and can't keep jobs there. Usually because of multiple issues. A big one being STDs the shops do require regular checks up these girls don't have to. Also performance issues unlike other countries where the only way to complain are underground forums. In Japan the customer can complain to the shop. Get enough complaints the girls get cut.
The amount of money you might save isn't really worth it to be honest. If you used the Shinjuku area pick up you could litterly walk a few blocks over and utilize a bunch of the escort shops. Yes we get charged a Ganjin fee but it's peanuts with the current exchange rate.[/QUOTE]I forgot to say why mainly underage girls are street walkers. Basically any dating, hook up app, or sex shop requires age verification. Obviously the underage girls can't be verified so they get no play. So the police are constantly watching and will swipe you up real quick. Every now and then they do stings to clean up the area but mostly they target the girls not the guys.
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[QUOTE=David032;2853120]Yes but these aren't pro girls most are university students and normal working girls. These are non pros for those prices who stay for hours if not over night. Also going back to the point I did this with zero spoken Japanese. Zero negoations.[/QUOTE]For non-pros and uni students I usually pay 10 k to 15 k for over night with NN. I speak fluent Japanese and have lived in Japan for more than 15 years.
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Any recommendations for girls at THC? Who are the "it" girls post covid?
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[QUOTE=David032;2853419]So if you dig through this forum you'll find the locations of the street walkers. Unlike other countries I would avoid street walkers in Japan. The main reason is simple the vast Majority are underage girls. Unless super familiar with Japanese physique you won't be able to tell at a glance and the girls will lir to you. In fact the cops are ready to pick you up for that. I actually witnessed a bust last week he made it a block over and blame walked into the police station. Even then it's a gamble there are so many other options for legal girls to pursue that mainly only the underage girls try street walking.
The second reason is most are rejects from various escort shops and can't keep jobs there. Usually because of multiple issues. A big one being STDs the shops do require regular checks up these girls don't have to. Also performance issues unlike other countries where the only way to complain are underground forums. In Japan the customer can complain to the shop. Get enough complaints the girls get cut.
The amount of money you might save isn't really worth it to be honest. If you used the Shinjuku area pick up you could litterly walk a few blocks over and utilize a bunch of the escort shops. Yes we get charged a Ganjin fee but it's peanuts with the current exchange rate.[/QUOTE]From my research, the majority of street walkers won't be Japanese girls.
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[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2854292]From my research, the majority of street walkers won't be Japanese girls.[/QUOTE]A significant portion of these individuals aren't genuinely "women. " They are men from South East Asia who masquerade as females and concentrate on approaching intoxicated individuals during the late evening hours in and around Tokyo's red light districts.
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[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2854275]Any recommendations for girls at THC? Who are the "it" girls post covid?[/QUOTE]I've only seen one lady there named Rina and only because she was the only one available the night I was looking and she was only silver tier too so I was a bit worried, am I not going to have the best experience?
I was genuinely surprised, a very great experience and she was easy to talk to. Also great at BJ.
So if you find your options limited to her I can at least attest I would probably repeat if I had to but I am curious to try new ladies on my next visit as well.
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"sugar daddy wanted" ads
Hey guys,
This will be my second visit to Japan and first as solo traveler. Can you guys point me to where I can find these "sugar daddy wanted" ads for Tokyo & Kansai area? I am member of [URL]seeking.com[/URL], but that website is as dry as a desert for Japanese girls.
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[QUOTE=JL234;2854590]I've only seen one lady there named Rina and only because she was the only one available the night I was looking and she was only silver tier too so I was a bit worried, am I not going to have the best experience?
I was genuinely surprised, a very great experience and she was easy to talk to. Also great at BJ.
So if you find your options limited to her I can at least attest I would probably repeat if I had to but I am curious to try new ladies on my next visit as well.[/QUOTE]Did she provide FS or BBFS?
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[QUOTE=Projektzer;2855537]Did she provide FS or BBFS?[/QUOTE]If you RTFF you will know that in Japan vaginal sex with WG is taboo and no THC girl will openly admit about it. What happens in the room is between you and her. So when you book with THC ask what is included so there is no confusion.
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Services offered
[QUOTE=Xslikx;2854113]For non-pros and uni students I usually pay 10 k to 15 k for over night with NN. I speak fluent Japanese and have lived in Japan for more than 15 years.[/QUOTE]I've seen the YouTube videos around Okubo. Looks like the pro's are in one area and the students, non-pros are located in another area. The students. What all do they do? Full nude? HJ or BJ. Thanks.
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There is a code for FS
[QUOTE=JoeKarnavic;2855550]If you RTFF you will know that in Japan vaginal sex with WG is taboo and no THC girl will openly admit about it. What happens in the room is between you and her. So when you book with THC ask what is included so there is no confusion.[/QUOTE]Look for providers that offer anal. Most times the company will say anal is at the discretion of the girl due to size and comfort issues. Most girls who offer anal will either actual do anal with you which is legal or they will offer to switch for the other hole instead. There's actually a few and your millage may vary but you pay for anal and anything over 90 minutes you can litterly do any hole you want as many times as you want. That is not the normal and honestly depending on you and the girl. Also if your a one a done guy don't ask about the anal unless she brings it up till after the shower and has at least put her mouth on your junk at least once. If your to pushy about it from the begining the girl could just decide no anal and you lose our. With most of the girls from thc if you let them take the lead till your intmate your in for a way better experience.
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Question: Japanese dating clubs or Japanese matching apps
[QUOTE=David032;2852828]These options are Japanese dating clubs or Japanese matching apps.
I am a member of one dating club that's tied to a matching app. ... Within 24 hours of joining I had 4 dates arranged [/QUOTE]Sounds like you found it worthwhile to join a Dating Club / Social Club, as opposed a simple matching app? As I read it, Clubs interview you in person, charge you a joining fee, and then charge a per-date fee to set up the first date? And apps are kind of like Seeking, where you make your own contacts. Is that right?
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Yes an No
[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2855689]Sounds like you found it worthwhile to join a Dating Club / Social Club, as opposed a simple matching app? As I read it, Clubs interview you in person, charge you a joining fee, and then charge a per-date fee to set up the first date? And apps are kind of like Seeking, where you make your own contacts. Is that right?[/QUOTE]So the dating club I joined is the same company as the matching app. I only joined cause I got a discount when joining the matching app. Basically the dating clubs promise to to get rid of the match making process buy doing it for you. Basically instead of having the discussions on the matching app. The girls have levels of cost depending on there rating. But it's a fee you have to pay up front. The club will even let you know what girls are more likely to agree to an adult date on the first date. You won't know the cost of the adult date untill you meet in person. Because the club takes care of all communication. The advantage of the dating club is your almost guaranteed for the girl to show up. Matching the girl could cancel haven't had one cancel yet though.
Honestly I haven't used the dating club have only used the matching app. Mainly because I won't know upfront the total cost. Also those girls may have an outrageous ask. Don't feel like dropping money then showing up and she wanting 150 k. Whereas with the app I know the total up front. There have been some outrageous asks but usually ignore them. As of right now in three weeks I have had 6 dates two with AV models 2 Gruave models, 2 normal girls. Average total cost has been between 50 k and 80 k for very little effort. I could litterly log in, in the morning then have a date in the afternoon or evening. So I have honestly stopped even using any of the delivery health places.
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Matching app costs
[QUOTE=David032;2855875] The girls have levels of cost depending on there rating. But it's a fee you have to pay up front. The club will even let you know what girls are more likely to agree to an adult date on the first date. You won't know the cost of the adult date untill you meet in person. [/QUOTE]Thank you for explaining. Could you answer a few more questions?
What's the monthly fee for just the Matching App?
And then if there is an additional fee for the Club, in addition to the fee for the App, how much is that?
When you say that "girls have levels of cost depending on there rating," you mean: you pay the Club eg 20,000 to set up a date is a regular girl, 30,000 for a date with a gravure idol, 40,000 for JAV? So you don't actually know how much the girl herself would want, just the club's fee for setting up a date with her?
Can you contact these same girls directly from the App if you are not a member of the Club, like you would on Seeking? Or does being in the Club give you access to more girls, who are not on the App at all, ie they only meet Club members via arranged dates?
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[QUOTE=Projektzer;2855537]Did she provide FS or BBFS?[/QUOTE]I didn't push for any sort of FS. She did a BBJCIM and I was happy with that situation but I also only paid for 60 minutes. Might go the 90 if I have time next.
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[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2856653]Thank you for explaining. Could you answer a few more questions?
What's the monthly fee for just the Matching App?
And then if there is an additional fee for the Club, in addition to the fee for the App, how much is that?
When you say that "girls have levels of cost depending on there rating," you mean: you pay the Club eg 20,000 to set up a date is a regular girl, 30,000 for a date with a gravure idol, 40,000 for JAV? So you don't actually know how much the girl herself would want, just the club's fee for setting up a date with her?
Can you contact these same girls directly from the App if you are not a member of the Club, like you would on Seeking? Or does being in the Club give you access to more girls, who are not on the App at all, ie they only meet Club members via arranged dates?[/QUOTE]I think the monthly fee for the app / website was around 300 us total. That's because I got the VIP membership which came like 150 points, with points you can send messages or likes. You both have to like each other to talk. Unless you spend points to bypass that feature. I don't remember what the additional fee for the club was but it was a promotion. Honestly didn't really use many points at first untill I started looking for specific things.
Yes the club assigns there rating, but it's not based on gruave or JAV. It's like silver being the lowest gold platinum and black. Then a secondary category either A or be. Be means the girl needs more than one date. A means they will sleep with you on date. Honestly the club claims the girls are on the matching app they might be. But honestly I have so many options on the matching app I wouldn't even notice or I could miss them. Honestly I wouldn't even join the Club if you find the app. Litterly jumped on as soon as I landed have a date tomorrow to see someone's. My regulars are also asking to see me. The only true advantage suppousedly is the club handles all the communication and semi guarantees the girl will show up. Haven't had a girl no show yet. The only reason I haven't shared it is truth it takes a certain skill set to manage properly if you can't find it you shouldn't be using it.
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[QUOTE=David032;2856939] You both have to like each other to talk. Unless you spend points to bypass that feature [/QUOTE]Thank you again for the detailed answers! One last batch if I may:
Do you normally pay to bypass that feature and message her directly so you aren't lost in the 50 "likes" that she received?
Did you have to upload a copy of your ID for age verification? If so, did they accept a non-Japanese Driver's License, or they require to see your passport?
In your profile, do you specify how much you pay per date?
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[QUOTE=David032;2856939]I think the monthly fee for the app / website was around 300 us total. [/QUOTE]Just to double check, you meant $300 (three hundred usd) a month = 45,000 JPY / month?
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Yes
[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2857117]Just to double check, you meant $300 (three hundred usd) a month = 45,000 JPY / month?[/QUOTE]Yes there was lower plans but I saw a special for the vip membership and tried it out. LOL if you can't tell I am sucker for a special.
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Sometimes
[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2857114]Thank you again for the detailed answers! One last batch if I may:
Do you normally pay to bypass that feature and message her directly so you aren't lost in the 50 "likes" that she received?
Did you have to upload a copy of your ID for age verification? If so, did they accept a non-Japanese Driver's License, or they require to see your passport?
In your profile, do you specify how much you pay per date?[/QUOTE]Honestly I haven't really, the app also has a feature where girls can put up recruitments saying they are looking for someone to meet usually the same day or a specific day or time. To message them directly you have to use a like and points. That's the only time I have used it recently. So far with just viewing girls and using my 10 free likes a day I have all the options I need. I am not sure if it's because I am vip but if the girl likes me first I can match with her without using my own like it points. So if I view her then she likes me it's free match for me.
Yes I had to upload copy of my ID. Any dating site even tinder and bumble over here requires age verification.
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[QUOTE=David032;2855875] I have had 6 dates two with AV models 2 Gruave models, 2 normal girls. Average total cost has been between 50 k and 80 k for very little effort. I could litterly log in, in the morning then have a date in the afternoon or evening. [/QUOTE]Do you filter by "purpose of dating" -- meals only, aggressive etc? To find Gravure Idols, did you search for the word "gravure," you just clicked on pretty faces and got lucky?
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Lucky
[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2857160]Do you filter by "purpose of dating" -- meals only, aggressive etc? To find Gravure Idols, did you search for the word "gravure," you just clicked on pretty faces and got lucky?[/QUOTE]On the matching app I tried searching JAV but that didn't work. Mainly because that's not the japanese for it. The JAV girl I dated was pure luck. I have one more JAV girl on tap right now. Honestly I avoid the gruave and jav. Most tend to be expensive in the 100 k range. The two I saw were 60 k 70 k range. Where as normal girls were in the 40 k to 60 k range. Like I have one normal girl on tap for 40 k a date she got tested so we go raw now. She went exclusive cause I see her once twice a week regularly.
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[QUOTE=David032;2857317] Honestly I avoid the gruave and jav. Most tend to be expensive in the 100 k range. [/QUOTE]Yes, the one Japanese gravure idol I saw in Tokyo from SA was also 100 k. Do you avoid girls whose profiles say their "purpose of dating" is "meals only" or "lets start with food"? Not sure if your app has that "purpose of dating" question.
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[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2857389]Yes, the one Japanese gravure idol I saw in Tokyo from SA was also 100 k. Do you avoid girls whose profiles say their "purpose of dating" is "meals only" or "lets start with food"? Not sure if your app has that "purpose of dating" question.[/QUOTE]Yes it sounds like your on the right track basically my go to statement it's a pleasure to meet you I am looking for a long term adult realtionship is that ok.
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Tachinbo crisis
Looks like they are cracking down on the Tachinbo (street hooking) in Shinjuku.
[URL]https://hanzai.cc/street-hooker-okubo-crackdown/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2857652]Looks like they are cracking down on the Tachinbo (street hooking) in Shinjuku.
[URL]https://hanzai.cc/street-hooker-okubo-crackdown/[/URL][/QUOTE]So where do these girls work if they don't work the streets? They must go somewhere.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2857679]So where do these girls work if they don't work the streets? They must go somewhere.[/QUOTE]I guess somewhere not visible on the streets of Tokyo!
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[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2857652]Looks like they are cracking down on the Tachinbo (street hooking) in Shinjuku.
[URL]https://hanzai.cc/street-hooker-okubo-crackdown/[/URL][/QUOTE]This has happened a lot over the years. Police tolerate it for a while until it starts getting too prevalent then they shut it down. It comes back over time. Rinse and repeat.
FWIW I wouldn't recommend seeing a street walker in Japan anyways, there are plenty of better options.
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Looks like the happening bar bliss out has closed as of September 30th 2023.
[URL]http://www.bliss-out.jp/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=QCryptic;2857749]FWIW I wouldn't recommend seeing a street walker in Japan anyways, there are plenty of better options.[/QUOTE]Are you willing to share where in Tokyo publicly or by PM?
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[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2857936]Looks like the happening bar bliss out has closed as of September 30th 2023.
[URL]http://www.bliss-out.jp/[/URL][/QUOTE]What a pity! I heard that this place was friendly with a single foreigner who doesn't speak Japanese. Any similar happening bar in Tokyo that are good for foreigner?
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2858527]Are you willing to share where in Tokyo publicly or by PM?[/QUOTE]We are on a forum, publicly is better ;-)
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GFE Soapland
Anyone tried the new soapland from thc?
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What where?
[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2859396]Anyone tried the new soapland from thc?[/QUOTE]What's it called and where? They closed their Paradise one in Kawasaki which was amazing. So guessing this would be great too. The no Japanese allowed thine is a unique business proposition that def works. We loved Paradise. What is name and location of new one.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2859519]What's it called and where? They closed their Paradise one in Kawasaki which was amazing. So guessing this would be great too. The no Japanese allowed thine is a unique business proposition that def works. We loved Paradise. What is name and location of new one.[/QUOTE]7-7 Horinouchicho, Kawasaki Ward, Kawasaki, Kanagawa 210-0003.
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Almost paradise
[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2859589]7-7 Horinouchicho, Kawasaki Ward, Kawasaki, Kanagawa 210-0003.[/QUOTE]From their website:
Welcome to GFE Soapland.
Formerly known as Paradise (No relation with "Paradise Shibuya".
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[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2859859]From their website:
Welcome to GFE Soapland.
Formerly known as Paradise (No relation with "Paradise Shibuya".[/QUOTE]So it has nothing to do with [URL]https://paradise-tokyo.net/[/URL] which used to be Paradise Yoshiwara that turned into a dispatch agency over covid?
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[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2859916]So it has nothing to do with [URL]https://paradise-tokyo.net/[/URL] which used to be Paradise Yoshiwara that turned into a dispatch agency over covid?[/QUOTE]Yes, I think it's two separate businesses now.
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Thc
First time mongering in Japan. Brief rpt to give back to the community.
Selected a girl on THC. Communicated on WA. Provided hotel verification. On time. Dressed sleek not slutty. 2 hrs. 50 K yen. Was the girl in pics. Ass a little bigger than expected. I was tired so just wanted the company of a young beauty. Hung out. Showered twice. Once before and once after.
Highly recommend THC.
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Am
Thanks to all that provided intel on AM. I sessioned with two girls on separate evenings. I'll be discrete to protect my identity if AM monitors this forum. Their pics are highly edited and the models carefully positioned in the pics.
Girl No. 1 was heavier and not in the same physical condition as her pics.
So when I chose Girl No. 2, I really zoomed in deep into the photos. The girls' faces are hidden but I found one girl who had a beautiful smile and nose. I went with her. When she arrived I could not believe how beautiful she was. Her hips looked a little wide; sure enough when naked, her but was a little heavy. Very, very nice girl.
Both girls were probably 5+ years older than advertised. Not a big deal to a veteran like me as it is expected.
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GFE Soapland
I have a long layover at Haneda coming up and have been eyeing GFE Soapland for a visit as this presents a unique experience over traditional escorts that can be obtained globally. I have been unable to find intel on how many pops seem to be allowed per session. Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of GFE to send here or via PM? Of course, I would love to make the most of my time, have a few pops in my session and fully engage in the fun but am not sure if that is reserved for 90 min plus. Don't want to miss my flight. Or maybe I do. Hahaha.
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They're still there!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2857679]So where do these girls work if they don't work the streets? They must go somewhere.[/QUOTE]They're still there at the park, playing games on their phone, waiting for you. I went the other week while it was raining, mostly for novelty. Wanted to see the youtoob hype live. It's real, they dress cute, they are all business.
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[QUOTE=PeacefulSurfer;2861767]I have a long layover at Haneda coming up and have been eyeing GFE Soapland for a visit as this presents a unique experience over traditional escorts that can be obtained globally. I have been unable to find intel on how many pops seem to be allowed per session. Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of GFE to send here or via PM? Of course, I would love to make the most of my time, have a few pops in my session and fully engage in the fun but am not sure if that is reserved for 90 min plus. Don't want to miss my flight. Or maybe I do. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]You get zero pops on paper.
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Am
[QUOTE=Vendelo;2861737]Thanks to all that provided intel on AM. I sessioned with two girls on separate evenings. I'll be discrete to protect my identity if AM monitors this forum. Their pics are highly edited and the models carefully positioned in the pics.
Girl No. 1 was heavier and not in the same physical condition as her pics.
So when I chose Girl No. 2, I really zoomed in deep into the photos. The girls' faces are hidden but I found one girl who had a beautiful smile and nose. I went with her. When she arrived I could not believe how beautiful she was. Her hips looked a little wide; sure enough when naked, her but was a little heavy. Very, very nice girl.
Both girls were probably 5+ years older than advertised. Not a big deal to a veteran like me as it is expected.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your info!
Could you please send me a PM and let me know which girls you met? Thanks!
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Girls In The Park
Aren't these the women who are desperately trying to pay back the debt that they owe to dudes at Host Clubs? I believe that I've read that a great number of the women who are standing outside, and not associated with clubs, were swindled and conned into massive amounts of debt. Or am I thinking of something else?
[QUOTE=Yummy808;2861830]They're still there at the park, playing games on their phone, waiting for you. I went the other week while it was raining, mostly for novelty. Wanted to see the youtoob hype live. It's real, they dress cute, they are all business.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=GaijinRoamer;2862236]Aren't these the women who are desperately trying to pay back the debt that they owe to dudes at Host Clubs? I believe that I've read that a great number of the women who are standing outside, and not associated with clubs, were swindled and conned into massive amounts of debt. Or am I thinking of something else?[/QUOTE]Yes. The Host Club guys are basically pimps.
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Okubo Park
I was curious so stopped by around dusk. Saw a taxi pull up. Older gent and young girl step out. They said bye to each other. She was dressed like a WG. He went on his way. She sat at some steps across from the park. I saw a couple young guys taking turns talking to her. A third guy must've said the right words. She stood up and they walked away together.
The next night I saw three girls loitering. Dressed as WG's. Two were really tall. Could've been LB's. A few minutes later I returned to where they stood. They were gone. In their place were three cops.
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[QUOTE=Vendelo;2862589]I was curious so stopped by around dusk. Saw a taxi pull up. Older gent and young girl step out. They said bye to each other. She was dressed like a WG. He went on his way. She sat at some steps across from the park. I saw a couple young guys taking turns talking to her. A third guy must've said the right words. She stood up and they walked away together.
The next night I saw three girls loitering. Dressed as WG's. Two were really tall. Could've been LB's. A few minutes later I returned to where they stood. They were gone. In their place were three cops.[/QUOTE]Please be careful / picking up street walkers in Japan. The police are patroling and can detain you for up to 21 days without any charges.
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Anyone TOFTT
[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2859396]Anyone tried the new soapland from thc?[/QUOTE]Has anyone been here yet to provide an update? While I know that the price point is certainly higher, I am wondering about the quality of the experience. Also seeking some intel on alternatives in the Kawasaki / Yokohama area that are gaijan / non-Japanese speaking friendly and saw KiraKira as a potential option. If anyone has intel to share, I'm happy to report back once I arrive.
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[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2863094]Please be careful / picking up street walkers in Japan. The police are patroling and can detain you for up to 21 days without any charges.[/QUOTE]There are also a bunch of hidden cam streamers who record transactions. I've seen a bunch of Reels and TikToks about Okubo Park lately.
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[QUOTE=PeacefulSurfer;2863138]Has anyone been here yet to provide an update? While I know that the price point is certainly higher, I am wondering about the quality of the experience. Also seeking some intel on alternatives in the Kawasaki / Yokohama area that are gaijin / non-Japanese speaking friendly and saw KiraKira as a potential option. If anyone has intel to share, I'm happy to report back once I arrive.[/QUOTE]30,000 yen for 60 minutes with full service considered expensive by gaijin standards?
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[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2863391]30,000 yen for 60 minutes with full service considered expensive by gaijin standards?[/QUOTE]Pretty good deal if FS is also included. With the depreciated Yen, it's even a better deal.
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Hotel advise: gotunda station area
Looking for an inexpensive girl friendly hotel in shinagawa gotunda station area. Any hotels that can fit my needs?
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[QUOTE=StinkyFeet;2863609]Looking for an inexpensive girl friendly hotel in shinagawa gotunda station area. Any hotels that can fit my needs?[/QUOTE]Google it. Make booking for two people.
If you are looking for casual encounters, might be better to find a love hotel. Inexpensive accom hotels are very small and basic.
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Overnight or just for play
[QUOTE=StinkyFeet;2863609]Looking for an inexpensive girl friendly hotel in shinagawa gotunda station area. Any hotels that can fit my needs?[/QUOTE]So are you trying to stay over night or just to meet the girl.
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Video Recording with Face?
I saw an agency that offered "Video Recording with Face" as an optional extra for some of their escorts. Would anyone have recommendations for providers that might be a good fit?
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[QUOTE=StartUpGuy;2864017]I saw an agency that offered "Video Recording with Face" as an optional extra for some of their escorts. Would anyone have recommendations for providers that might be a good fit?[/QUOTE]THC and Asian girlfriend both have that.
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Escort Agencies
[QUOTE=David032;2864215]THC and Asian girlfriend both have that.[/QUOTE]Thank you! I'm familiar with THC, but don't know Asian Girlfriend. What's their website??
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[QUOTE=IcyBlue;2863222]There are also a bunch of hidden cam streamers who record transactions. I've seen a bunch of Reels and TikToks about Okubo Park lately.[/QUOTE]There are alot of girls out there just waiting. So does every guy that walks away with a girl to a love hotel get busted?
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See my previous posts.
[QUOTE=StartUpGuy;2864317]Thank you! I'm familiar with THC, but don't know Asian Girlfriend. What's their website??[/QUOTE]If you look at my previous posts I list it in there somewhere.
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Am I under the assumption that it is relatively safe to pick up a street walkers from Okubo?
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[QUOTE=David032;2864500]If you look at my previous posts I list it in there somewhere.[/QUOTE]I think they meant Asian Mystique not AF?
[URL]https://asianmystique.com/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2864562]Am I under the assumption that it is relatively safe to pick up a street walkers from Okubo?[/QUOTE]There has been some media reports of police attention recently as well some citizen complaints.
Be aware of your surroundings.
Teltel.
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[QUOTE=Teltel;2864819]There has been some media reports of police attention recently as well some citizen complaints.
Be aware of your surroundings.
Teltel.[/QUOTE]The area seems to be flourishing with working girls! All the crackdowns can't stop this movement! Tokyo is the new Bangkok of Asia!
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This has been posted about before
[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2864562]Am I under the assumption that it is relatively safe to pick up a street walkers from Okubo?[/QUOTE]The police station is down the road within view. The are social justice people video taping and posting randomly. It's more risky to pick up a girl there than it is to walk two or three blocks over and utilize a soapland.
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[QUOTE=David032;2865038]The police station is down the road within view. The are social justice people video taping and posting randomly. It's more risky to pick up a girl there than it is to walk two or three blocks over and utilize a soapland.[/QUOTE]Isn't that the whole point of picking up a street hooker? The thrill of the unknown?
Soapland and escort services in Japan can be mechanical as f*ck!
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Not really
[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2865059]Isn't that the whole point of picking up a street hooker? The thrill of the unknown?
Soapland and escort services in Japan can be mechanical as f*ck![/QUOTE]If your finding soapland and escort services mechanical your going to the wrong places. I know at least three escort and one soapland girl who contact me regularly outside of there agencies. The thrill isn't worth it in Japan. The police can hold you for up to 29 days and never give you access to a lawyer. There's no bail or such so doing it your doing it at a significantly more risk. Japan has like a 90% conviction rate. The streetwalkers are more mechanical than the other girls. There is very little thrill because none of them will do anything public at all. No alleyways, no cars they want to go straight to the love hotel and get it done. Plus honestly if you don't speak Japanese most of those girls will ignore you anyway. You want a thrill or challenge trying getting a soapland girl or escort service girl to see you outside her agency. Which is a big taboo here. Personnelly don't even use escort or soaplands services any more. I have gone down the route of normal girls getting paid for sex. You want a thrill use the normal girl service and try and negotiate girls down to almost nothing, spent the night with a girl for 30000yen.
The last thing to point out is most street walkers failed working for the clubs or service or were rejected from them. So there skills are gonna be worse than those girls
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[QUOTE=David032;2865317]If your finding soapland and escort services mechanical your going to the wrong places. I know at least three escort and one soapland girl who contact me regularly outside of there agencies. The thrill isn't worth it in Japan. The police can hold you for up to 29 days and never give you access to a lawyer. There's no bail or such so doing it your doing it at a significantly more risk. Japan has like a 90% conviction rate. The streetwalkers are more mechanical than the other girls. There is very little thrill because none of them will do anything public at all. No alleyways, no cars they want to go straight to the love hotel and get it done. Plus honestly if you don't speak Japanese most of those girls will ignore you anyway. You want a thrill or challenge trying getting a soapland girl or escort service girl to see you outside her agency. Which is a big taboo here. Personnelly don't even use escort or soaplands services any more. I have gone down the route of normal girls getting paid for sex. You want a thrill use the normal girl service and try and negotiate girls down to almost nothing, spent the night with a girl for 30000yen.
The last thing to point out is most street walkers failed working for the clubs or service or were rejected from them. So there skills are gonna be worse than those girls[/QUOTE]Good points! Normal girl service as in like the "rent a girlfriend" services that YouTubers have been promoting in Tokyo recently?
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[QUOTE=PeacefulSurfer;2861767]I have a long layover at Haneda coming up and have been eyeing GFE Soapland for a visit as this presents a unique experience over traditional escorts that can be obtained globally. I have been unable to find intel on how many pops seem to be allowed per session. Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of GFE to send here or via PM? Of course, I would love to make the most of my time, have a few pops in my session and fully engage in the fun but am not sure if that is reserved for 90 min plus. Don't want to miss my flight. Or maybe I do. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]From Haneda you can head over to Kawasaki, Ikebukuro or Yoshiwara for soaplands. None of them are close. I've been to Kawasaki and it's a couple of train changes. Ikebukuro, I'll be going there very soon from Haneda and will be staying there. Yoshiwara, I've never been too. Best to do your research and find a foreigner friendly place and then plan for that. Ikebukuro has numerous foreigner friendly places. I'll start you off with Marine Blue and Wakaba. Kawasaki doesn't seem to have too much info, but I did go to Paradise Soapland when it did operate there on a layover. Try Tokyo Adult Guide and look for places in Kawasaki.
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[QUOTE=PeacefulSurfer;2861767]I have a long layover at Haneda coming up and have been eyeing GFE Soapland for a visit as this presents a unique experience over traditional escorts that can be obtained globally. I have been unable to find intel on how many pops seem to be allowed per session. Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of GFE to send here or via PM? Of course, I would love to make the most of my time, have a few pops in my session and fully engage in the fun but am not sure if that is reserved for 90 min plus. Don't want to miss my flight. Or maybe I do. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]Look up the following Soaplands.
Why-Shirt (Yoshiwara).
Dolce (Yoshiwara).
GFE Soapland (Kawasaki).
Marine Blue (Shinjuku).
I think these are the best options for non-Japanese speakers. The foreigner-friendly policies can change on the fly so take this list with a grain of salt!
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[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2866357]Look up the following Soaplands.
Why-Shirt (Yoshiwara).
Dolce (Yoshiwara).
GFE Soapland (Kawasaki).
Marine Blue (Shinjuku).
I think these are the best options for non-Japanese speakers. The foreigner-friendly policies can change on the fly so take this list with a grain of salt![/QUOTE]I'll be in the Shinjuku area on Saturday and Sunday coming up. I'll try out the Marine Blue and report back. I don't speak any Japanese so hopefully it still works out ok.
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[QUOTE=ChrisUcla;2866567]I'll be in the Shinjuku area on Saturday and Sunday coming up. I'll try out the Marine Blue and report back. I don't speak any Japanese so hopefully it still works out ok.[/QUOTE]Marine Blue also has a shop in Ikebukuro if I'm not mistaken.
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[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2866650]Marine Blue also has a shop in Ikebukuro if I'm not mistaken.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I was able to find it online, but it's a 40 minute metro vs a 13 minute walk to the Shinjuku shop. I'll be in and out of Japan for the next year so might give it a try someday. Cheers.
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[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2866357]Look up the following Soaplands.
Why-Shirt (Yoshiwara).
Dolce (Yoshiwara).
GFE Soapland (Kawasaki).
Marine Blue (Shinjuku).
I think these are the best options for non-Japanese speakers. The foreigner-friendly policies can change on the fly so take this list with a grain of salt![/QUOTE]Thanks for your help. I have done some extensive researching on alternative forums and have found useful information and positive reviews for YShirt. I have been looking at KiraKira in Yokohama as they are gaijan friendly and hope to secure a positive review to post. Alternatively, I have seen lots of mentions of GFE Soapland in Kawasaki and yet there are zero reports or reviews anywhere. It is as if there is some unspoken rule not to mention that place anywhere. I am keenly interested in GFE as it is close to my work but really was hoping for a boots on the ground report. Thanks again for the kind assistance from the forum.
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[QUOTE=ChrisUcla;2866808]Thanks for the info. I was able to find it online, but it's a 40 minute metro vs a 13 minute walk to the Shinjuku shop. I'll be in and out of Japan for the next year so might give it a try someday. Cheers.[/QUOTE]You're going to find a lot more than Marine Blue in the alleys off Tokiwa Street in Ikebukuro. There's a ton of Love hotels there for a reason.
Not sure where you're staying but Ikebukuro Station and Shinjuku station are maybe 6-8 minutes apart. Getting from 1 shop to the other should not take very long. Keep in mind instead of going from the huge Shinjuku station you can get to Ikebukuro through the civilized Seibu-Shinjuku station. Seibu Shinjuku station is where Okubo Park and Kabukicho are so I'm sure you'll be walking around there at least once.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2866908]You're going to find a lot more than Marine Blue in the alleys off Tokiwa Street in Ikebukuro. There's a ton of Love hotels there for a reason.
Not sure where you're staying but Ikebukuro Station and Shinjuku station are maybe 6-8 minutes apart. Getting from 1 shop to the other should not take very long. Keep in mind instead of going from the huge Shinjuku station you can get to Ikebukuro through the civilized Seibu-Shinjuku station. Seibu Shinjuku station is where Okubo Park and Kabukicho are so I'm sure you'll be walking around there at least once.[/QUOTE]The entrance to Seibu-Shinjuku line is under the Prince hotel which is in front of Marine Blue soapland by the way!
Regarding GFE soapland I think they don't have any reviews because they only just opened a month ago with little to no girls!
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Okubo Street Hookers. Tachinbo
[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2865059]Isn't that the whole point of picking up a street hooker? The thrill of the unknown?
Soapland and escort services in Japan can be mechanical as f*ck![/QUOTE]I like thrill, infact, I feed on blood rush, I like it running fast before I make that dammed decision, including the fact that I know who I'm getting before hand. That's why I too find outcall services or massage places a bit boring to an extent.
Same reasons why I enjoyed Window girls so much while in Korea, plus the fact that the price is a third of what street hookers in Tokyo are asking for.
But in Tokyo I found out the hardway that it ain't worth the risk my friend.
What's the point of paying 15,000 for an hour + hotel fees when they want you to finish as soon as you've entered. These girls don't do nothing, expect no foreplay whatsoever. All you do is changing her position and untill you finish the deed and you're on your way.
I read same review on some blog before I went for it, where the guy regretted the service as well (Japanese provider in Uguisudani Station) but I guess human logic is always to find out for ourselves first LOL.
If you like BBFS tho, I read somewhere that a bigger percentage will let you partake for an extra fee and I confirmed it. But decided to skip that as I wasn't enjoying it that much anyways.
The mechanical level is the highest I've ever seen and vowed never to blow my money on something like that ever again.
Also, I'm not looking to find myself in a Japanese handcuffs or some stupid tiktok reel for such a low level expensive mechanical service.
If your Japanese skills are non-existent, forget the young Japanese girls. Street negotiations are supposed to last split seconds for the reasons you know very well, who's going to wait for you to pull out the dammed google translate for a negotiation LOL, plus they'll just avoid you if you look foreign anyways, so the foreign girls become your best bet.
If you decide to try, hopefully you get a better girl but not going to try again to find out, as it seemed to me to be the expected level of service.
I rather add a few bucks and try out some legit MR girl for an intimate service, or any other Tokyo options with far less risks.
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[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2867260]The entrance to Seibu-Shinjuku line is under the Prince hotel which is in front of Marine Blue soapland by the way![/QUOTE]You are correct the main entrance is down where Shinjuku Prince is. I meant the north entrance just north of the Lawson where Okubu Park is.
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Agree
[QUOTE=Charles96;2867527]I like thrill, infact, I feed on blood rush, I like it running fast before I make that dammed decision, including the fact that I know who I'm getting before hand. That's why I too find outcall services or massage places a bit boring to an extent.
Same reasons why I enjoyed Window girls so much while in Korea, plus the fact that the price is a third of what street hookers in Tokyo are asking for.
But in Tokyo I found out the hardway that it ain't worth the risk my friend.
What's the point of paying 15,000 for an hour + hotel fees when they want you to finish as soon as you've entered. These girls don't do nothing, expect no foreplay whatsoever. All you do is changing her position and untill you finish the deed and you're on your way.
I read same review on some blog before I went for it, where the guy regretted the service as well (Japanese provider in Uguisudani Station) but I guess human logic is always to find out for ourselves first LOL.
If you like BBFS tho, I read somewhere that a bigger percentage will let you partake for an extra fee and I confirmed it. But decided to skip that as I wasn't enjoying it that much anyways.
The mechanical level is the highest I've ever seen and vowed never to blow my money on something like that ever again.
Also, I'm not looking to find myself in a Japanese handcuffs or some stupid tiktok reel for such a low level expensive mechanical service.
If your Japanese skills are non-existent, forget the young Japanese girls. Street negotiations are supposed to last split seconds for the reasons you know very well, who's going to wait for you to pull out the dammed google translate for a negotiation LOL, plus they'll just avoid you if you look foreign anyways, so the foreign girls become your best bet.
If you decide to try, hopefully you get a better girl but not going to try again to find out, as it seemed to me to be the expected level of service.
I rather add a few bucks and try out some legit MR girl for an intimate service, or any other Tokyo options with far less risks.[/QUOTE]I agree with this, you might think you'll be different but without any japanese it will be worse. Also add in what really got my blood pumping with street walkers was the public fun that would occur once I picked them up. These girls will not do anything public period. Maybe if you have the gift of gab and spoke good Japanese and offered them a ton of money. But even then you would have less than a 0. 05 percent chance.
You want some blood pumping randomness go to the bj bars like Jan Jan. Where you sit down and you can hear everyone else while you wait for the random girl to come take care of you
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Vacation in Tokyo starting Monday
New user obviously, from L. A. Can't speak Japanese at all, but long time monger here in the city. Been researching soaplands and I've earmarked a couple that users here (and others on the web) have said are Gaijin friendly: GFE soapland and why Shirt. Just curious on what I should expect at those two places and if anyone has any Intel, would much appreciate. I'll be staying in the Roppongi area.
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[QUOTE=JackMiles;2868127]New user obviously, from L. A. Can't speak Japanese at all, but long time monger here in the city. Been researching soaplands and I've earmarked a couple that users here (and others on the web) have said are Gaijin friendly: GFE soapland and why Shirt. Just curious on what I should expect at those two places and if anyone has any Intel, would much appreciate. I'll be staying in the Roppongi area.[/QUOTE]It's just a scripted experience where you get sex at the end in a Japanese bath house. If you are looking for something more real I suggest trying out a few escorts in town and see if they would like to meet outside of agency hours.
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[QUOTE=ChrisUcla;2866567]I'll be in the Shinjuku area on Saturday and Sunday coming up. I'll try out the Marine Blue and report back. I don't speak any Japanese so hopefully it still works out ok.[/QUOTE]So after a bit of dinner and a drink I go for a walk and find Marine Blue entrance. What was hilarious to me was that there was literally a line of Japanese men waiting their turn for the elevator. One guy by himself, and a group of four just after him. They kept looking at their watches and by the gestures I figured they were a bit miffed at how long they had been waiting. It was a Saturday night, so business must have been non stop. I just kept walking by and thought to myself "Maybe next time. " Yes, I'll report back. Some day!
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Tokyo for one week. FS with agencies as an American?
Hey all,
Been reading the forum and I'm familiar with soaplands and THC Tokyo Hentai Club, but is it really as hard as the reports make it seem at getting full service? Not really wanting to drop close to $300 USD on a blowjob. Is it just that it isn't advertised, or is this a ploy to get you to shell out more as a "tip" for sex?
Are there any good places for foreigners for FS if THC is really just a blowjob service?
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[QUOTE=ThrowAway3602;2868821]Hey all,
Been reading the forum and I'm familiar with soaplands and THC Tokyo Hentai Club, but is it really as hard as the reports make it seem at getting full service? Not really wanting to drop close to $300 USD on a blowjob. Is it just that it isn't advertised, or is this a ploy to get you to shell out more as a "tip" for sex?
Are there any good places for foreigners for FS if THC is really just a blowjob service?[/QUOTE]Read / search back through this thread for Asian Mystique.
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[QUOTE=ThrowAway3602;2868821]Hey all,
Been reading the forum and I'm familiar with soaplands and THC Tokyo Hentai Club, but is it really as hard as the reports make it seem at getting full service? Not really wanting to drop close to $300 USD on a blowjob. Is it just that it isn't advertised, or is this a ploy to get you to shell out more as a "tip" for sex?
Are there any good places for foreigners for FS if THC is really just a blowjob service?[/QUOTE]You used to be able to get FS for 10,000 yen with most of the girls but nowadays the going rate seems to be 20,000 to 30,000 yen. What you would normally pay for bareback.
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[QUOTE=ThrowAway3602;2868821]Hey all,
Been reading the forum and I'm familiar with soaplands and THC Tokyo Hentai Club, but is it really as hard as the reports make it seem at getting full service? Not really wanting to drop close to $300 USD on a blowjob. Is it just that it isn't advertised, or is this a ploy to get you to shell out more as a "tip" for sex?
Are there any good places for foreigners for FS if THC is really just a blowjob service?[/QUOTE]For guaranteed FS at an escort agency try.
Nasty Dolls.
[URL]http://nasty-dolls.jp/[/URL]
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It's not
[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2868994]For guaranteed FS at an escort agency try.
Nasty Dolls.
[URL]http://nasty-dolls.jp/[/URL][/QUOTE]So in Japan there is no 100% guarantee of FS. I have heard stories of shady places offering it. Then the monger paying then the girl just doing a HJ. Then when the punter got irate they threaten to call the police or call the police.
So complete honesty if you use the foreign friendly places or places that only see foreigners to see anyone. Your dropping 30000 minium to get in the door. If you want full service your dropping at least another 15000 if not 20000. Soaplands are cheaper but same deal but harder because you have to find one that will take foreigners. Have to generally have some Japanese. Even then about 15000 to 20000 to get in the door then maybe she will do FS which also be another 10000 to 20000.
The key that has been mentioned before with THC gfejapan or the Japanese services. You look for girls that offer anal fuck. Every single time I picked that girl I got FS. They simply say switch. But yes the girl can still say no. I have had a few other girls who didn't list anal fuck offer it. But they generally won't do it on a first date. They reserve Full service for regular customers versus one offs.
Also I wouldn't touch anyone from Nasty dolls with someone's else dick.
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[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2868994]For guaranteed FS at an escort agency try.
Nasty Dolls.
[URL]http://nasty-dolls.jp/[/URL][/QUOTE]FS included in the price shown in their website?
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No one reads
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2869254]FS included in the price shown in their website?[/QUOTE]Do you guys not read or do you think we are lying. Full service will never be advertised in a companies like that advertisement. Cause it's illegal it's much easier to say anal fuck which is legal. Versus offering an illegal services. Any price on a website is basically a blow job anything else is extra even CIM, cum on face. If you contact any place mention full service out right if they agree your taking a big risk it's the equivalent of picking up a street walker you'll never know what your going to get. Henti gfejapan both have multiple girls who offer full service as anal fuck.
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Back in Japan, where is good places for gaijin? I used to go THC / Paradise. THC, seems service went down since COVID. Paradise soapland is gone. Anywhere to go for super gaijin?
[QUOTE=David032;2869131]So in Japan there is no 100% guarantee of FS. I have heard stories of shady places offering it. Then the monger paying then the girl just doing a HJ. Then when the punter got irate they threaten to call the police or call the police.
So complete honesty if you use the foreign friendly places or places that only see foreigners to see anyone. Your dropping 30000 minium to get in the door. If you want full service your dropping at least another 15000 if not 20000. Soaplands are cheaper but same deal but harder because you have to find one that will take foreigners. Have to generally have some Japanese. Even then about 15000 to 20000 to get in the door then maybe she will do FS which also be another 10000 to 20000.
The key that has been mentioned before with THC gfejapan or the Japanese services. You look for girls that offer anal fuck. Every single time I picked that girl I got FS. They simply say switch. But yes the girl can still say no. I have had a few other girls who didn't list anal fuck offer it. But they generally won't do it on a first date. They reserve Full service for regular customers versus one offs.
Also I wouldn't touch anyone from Nasty dolls with someone's else dick.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ChristianG;2869254]FS included in the price shown in their website?[/QUOTE]The only places that will confirm FS directly are backyard operations like Nasty Dolls and Asian Mystique which specifically cater to foreigners.
Soaplands = Full Service guaranteed (Don't ask about it).
Escort Agency (Delivery Health) = Full service with tipping (Depends on girl).
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[QUOTE=Pegasus887;2869469]Back in Japan, where is good places for gaijin? I used to go THC / Paradise. THC, seems service went down since COVID. Paradise soapland is gone. Anywhere to go for super gaijin?[/QUOTE]The service level depends on the girl doesn't it? Hit or miss anywhere you go really these days in town.
For super gaijins try.
Jan Jan in Sugamo.
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No it's not
[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2869497]The only places that will confirm FS directly are backyard operations like Nasty Dolls and Asian Mystique which specifically cater to foreigners.
Soaplands = Full Service guaranteed (Don't ask about it).
Escort Agency (Delivery Health) = Full service with tipping (Depends on girl).[/QUOTE]Full service is not 100% for foreigner or someone who doesn't speak Japanese. There are plenty of stories of soaplands accepting foriegner then they only get a BJ or HJ. If they complain so what they will just call the police and say you asked the girl to do illegal thing.
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Standing girls Kabukicho
Anybody had experiences with standing girls in Kabukicho?
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yo3IUSfTiMY&pp=ygUUU3RhbmZ1bmcgZ2l0bHMgdG9reW8%3D[/URL]
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Some addition details.
[URL]https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20231026/p2a/00m/0na/034000c[/URL]
I don't have anything to add to the conversation, but the cops are very much aware and can confirm that people show up to 'people watch' the Johns attempting to pick up women.
If you're an obvious foreigner who just happens to be moseying in the area, just go ahead and assume that people are watching what you're doing.
I'm not telling you NOT to do it, just be aware of this.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2870100]Anybody had experiences with standing girls in Kabukicho?
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yo3IUSfTiMY&pp=ygUUU3RhbmZ1bmcgZ2l0bHMgdG9reW8%3D[/URL][/QUOTE]
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Website to meet local girls
So the below website is in Japanese but it's a website that lists multiple shops and styles of escorting. Also the girls have the option to talk on the website. So you can find out if there store will take foriegner or if they will even see you before showing up. The site also has an option of no store visit which means you can pick and communicate directly from the site. You will have to utilize translation apps and such. Good luck and good hunting.
[URL]https://hime-channel.com/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2869760]The service level depends on the girl doesn't it? Hit or miss anywhere you go really these days in town.
For super gaijins try.
Jan Jan in Sugamo.[/QUOTE]Aiite sorry.
Not super gaijin.
Best cost / performance?
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Reading up on all the complex laws in place.
I wouldn't try it, either.
Chances are, you're on camera as well.
[QUOTE=GaijinRoamer;2870227][URL]https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20231026/p2a/00m/0na/034000c[/URL]
I don't have anything to add to the conversation, but the cops are very much aware and can confirm that people show up to 'people watch' the Johns attempting to pick up women.
If you're an obvious foreigner who just happens to be moseying in the area, just go ahead and assume that people are watching what you're doing.
I'm not telling you NOT to do it, just be aware of this.[/QUOTE]
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To add in
[QUOTE=Pegasus887;2870420]Reading up on all the complex laws in place.
I wouldn't try it, either.
Chances are, you're on camera as well.[/QUOTE]Also to add in unlike other countries street walkers the girls here will not approach you first. So you will have to approach them first. Add in the fact there is no criminal penalty for the girl just the guy. Unless the girl solicits. Hence why they won't approach you first. Yeah go ahead LOL it's obvious most of you know better or more than we do. Then again I have a date set up today, I have a date setup tomorrow. One girl is going to let me grope and finger her on the train. Then have a meal then go to a love a hotel all for a grand total of 40000 yen. LOL so please don't list to my advice as I have now clue as to what I am doing.
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[QUOTE=David032;2870665]Also to add in unlike other countries street walkers the girls here will not approach you first. So you will have to approach them first. Add in the fact there is no criminal penalty for the girl just the guy. Unless the girl solicits. Hence why they won't approach you first. Yeah go ahead LOL it's obvious most of you know better or more than we do. Then again I have a date set up today, I have a date setup tomorrow. One girl is going to let me grope and finger her on the train. Then have a meal then go to a love a hotel all for a grand total of 40000 yen. LOL so please don't list to my advice as I have now clue as to what I am doing.[/QUOTE]I had Streetwalkers say Hello, to me, Chinese women around the train station. They were very friendly. One of them pulled out her phone and pointed me on the way to my hotel in Asakusa. Very nice. Just friendly directions. I didn't have a working cell phone that trip.
There are a lot of sleazy looking pimps around the Japanese SWs in the same area on my last visit. Maybe they were cops. They gave this Ghetto Kid the robbery vibe. The Japanese SWs didn't look particularly approachable either. They didn't make eye contact or say hello unless they were over 45.
Workaround? You are a foreigner. Ask for directions to a place. If the cops swoop in, you were just asking for directions.
[B]The foreigner friendly Pink Salons are way more fun and cheaper.[/B]
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Hey guys, I have a question about escort girls.
On my last trip to Tokyo months ago, I met. This fun girl from one of those escort agencies. We had a great time and talked about some of the fun places to see in Osaka. Conversation eventually got to her willing to show me around Osaka on her 'day off' since it would be too expensive to do anything like that through the agency (she's the one that mentioned doing it on her day off, not me).
My question is, what would be a fair compensation for her time per day if this trip happens (her agency rate is 40000 yen per two hours)? Obviously I'd be paying for transport, food, hotel, and other costs of the trip as well. Would it be best just to message her and ask when her day off is and of she wants to go to Osaka with me, as well as my compensation offer?
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Ask her
[QUOTE=OlderMan4U;2871388]Hey guys, I have a question about escort girls.
On my last trip to Tokyo months ago, I met. This fun girl from one of those escort agencies. We had a great time and talked about some of the fun places to see in Osaka. Conversation eventually got to her willing to show me around Osaka on her 'day off' since it would be too expensive to do anything like that through the agency (she's the one that mentioned doing it on her day off, not me).
My question is, what would be a fair compensation for her time per day if this trip happens (her agency rate is 40000 yen per two hours)? Obviously I'd be paying for transport, food, hotel, and other costs of the trip as well. Would it be best just to message her and ask when her day off is and of she wants to go to Osaka with me, as well as my compensation offer?[/QUOTE]If you have her off site contact information simply ask her. Honestly it really depends on her. She could ask you for 100000 to 200000. Which 100000 even 200000 for a full day trip isn't super expensive when compared to the US. But it's also why I go the papa katsu route. I took a girl on a day trip with overnight to Kyoto I gave her 50000. Besides food and covering the hotel. It's also why I stopped using the escort side as much cheaper better quality and way more options.
She could honestly just accept the trip as a gift and not want anything besides covering the trip. Which you really should give her something no matter what. Yes it's a hustle for these girls. But a lot of them honestly just do this as a side hustle. They'll work full time during the day see one or two customers a night make decent money. Here it's honestly better just to ask be honest and ask.
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[QUOTE=OlderMan4U;2871388]Hey guys, I have a question about escort girls.
On my last trip to Tokyo months ago, I met. This fun girl from one of those escort agencies. We had a great time and talked about some of the fun places to see in Osaka. Conversation eventually got to her willing to show me around Osaka on her 'day off' since it would be too expensive to do anything like that through the agency (she's the one that mentioned doing it on her day off, not me).
My question is, what would be a fair compensation for her time per day if this trip happens (her agency rate is 40000 yen per two hours)? Obviously I'd be paying for transport, food, hotel, and other costs of the trip as well. Would it be best just to message her and ask when her day off is and of she wants to go to Osaka with me, as well as my compensation offer?[/QUOTE]If it is her day off, perhaps she just wants companionship for the day in a non-working environment. By all means you offer to pay her fare, buy her meals, and I guess you're thinking of a session in a love hotel there. If she doesn't mention money, you shouldn't either; just get her a nice gift.
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[QUOTE=OlderMan4U;2871388]Hey guys, I have a question about escort girls.
On my last trip to Tokyo months ago, I met. This fun girl from one of those escort agencies. We had a great time and talked about some of the fun places to see in Osaka. Conversation eventually got to her willing to show me around Osaka on her 'day off' since it would be too expensive to do anything like that through the agency (she's the one that mentioned doing it on her day off, not me).
My question is, what would be a fair compensation for her time per day if this trip happens (her agency rate is 40000 yen per two hours)? Obviously I'd be paying for transport, food, hotel, and other costs of the trip as well. Would it be best just to message her and ask when her day off is and of she wants to go to Osaka with me, as well as my compensation offer?[/QUOTE]For a full day? Budget between $1. 5 k to 2. 5 kUSD.
Or she will want you to take her shopping for the amount above.
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[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2871435]If it is her day off, perhaps she just wants companionship for the day in a non-working environment. By all means you offer to pay her fare, buy her meals, and I guess you're thinking of a session in a love hotel there. If she doesn't mention money, you shouldn't either; just get her a nice gift.[/QUOTE]Perhaps I should have also mentioned that Japanese people do not like to say "no" outright to suggestions put to them in that way, and you may well find that she is "not available" when the time comes.
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[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2871435]If it is her day off, perhaps she just wants companionship for the day in a non-working environment. By all means you offer to pay her fare, buy her meals, and I guess you're thinking of a session in a love hotel there. If she doesn't mention money, you shouldn't either; just get her a nice gift.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=David032;2871422]If you have her off site contact information simply ask her. Honestly it really depends on her. She could ask you for 100000 to 200000. Which 100000 even 200000 for a full day trip isn't super expensive when compared to the US. But it's also why I go the papa katsu route. I took a girl on a day trip with overnight to Kyoto I gave her 50000. Besides food and covering the hotel. It's also why I stopped using the escort side as much cheaper better quality and way more options.
She could honestly just accept the trip as a gift and not want anything besides covering the trip. Which you really should give her something no matter what. Yes it's a hustle for these girls. But a lot of them honestly just do this as a side hustle. They'll work full time during the day see one or two customers a night make decent money. Here it's honestly better just to ask be honest and ask.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys, I did message her on LINE but she said her schedule wouldn't allow such a trip. She said she already has many days off but could still meet in Tokyo for a regular escort session. Hard to tell but I had the feeling she's "hardened" a bit more and become more business like. Granted it was a while since I last saw her, but you never know. No big deal, maybe I can find am escort in Osaka.
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That's how it rolls
[QUOTE=OlderMan4U;2871746]Thanks guys, I did message her on LINE but she said her schedule wouldn't allow such a trip. She said she already has many days off but could still meet in Tokyo for a regular escort session. Hard to tell but I had the feeling she's "hardened" a bit more and become more business like. Granted it was a while since I last saw her, but you never know. No big deal, maybe I can find am escort in Osaka.[/QUOTE]Don't be to discouraged what truely sounds like is she was expecting it to happen sooner than later or she was expecting you to become a regular visitor as in once or twice a week. If she was willing to see you outside the agency. That says a lot in and of itself if nothing else she trusts you. The Japanese girls use the agency as a safety net.
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Marine Blue
Thanks to fellow mongers for info on first time visit to Tokyo. I speak zero Japanese. Read about Marine Blue that accepts foreigners. I Googled the MB site and used google maps to find the location. Its on the fifth floor of a building located in Shinjuko, near the Prince Hotel. Went up with no reservation. Picked 'Onya' from the list. 36000 yen for 50 minutes. Marine Blue offers early morning for 24,000 yen if before 9 AM. Few rules no camera, no mistreatment of workers etc. Enter the room Onya helps me disrobe. She is beautiful about 27 years and speaks decent English. Sit on Nuro chair and she gives full body massage. Almost lost there. Next into warm water. Tub and she begins BBBJ. Its heaven as she is between my legs. Back to bed DFK. CFS and BBBJ to CIM. Cuddles me for 10 minutes. If I lived in Tokyo. I would be broke. Highly recommend to foreign visitors. They have a 90 minute visit available.
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Weird inquiry
Although I guess in Japan nothing is weird! Anyone know of a place that would do some manscaping / trimming? In an ideal world it would also include some kind of relief. Even if just by hand. Will be staying just NW of Ginza close to Kamiyacho Station.
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Tachinbo okubo park
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2870100]Anybody had experiences with standing girls in Kabukicho?
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yo3IUSfTiMY&pp=ygUUU3RhbmZ1bmcgZ2l0bHMgdG9reW8%3D[/URL][/QUOTE]My friend (Japanese) and myself (East Asian, beginner levels of Japanese) visited between 11/13-11/19 and had a lot of success. That being said I did see one guy getting interrogated by the police, and one of the girls was suspicious of my friend being a cop.
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THC experience
[QUOTE=Pegasus887;2869469]Back in Japan, where is good places for gaijin? I used to go THC / Paradise. THC, seems service went down since COVID. Paradise soapland is gone. Anywhere to go for super gaijin?[/QUOTE]My friend and I checked out THC. The girl I drew had options for FS including Nama soto for extra charge. His first one only offered AF.
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[QUOTE=H4159;2873340]My friend (Japanese) and myself (East Asian, beginner levels of Japanese) visited between 11/13-11/19 and had a lot of success.[/QUOTE]Curious what prices you were paying around Okubo and how long the girls stayed with you.
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Foreigners or local
[QUOTE=H4159;2873340]My friend (Japanese) and myself (East Asian, beginner levels of Japanese) visited between 11/13-11/19 and had a lot of success. That being said I did see one guy getting interrogated by the police, and one of the girls was suspicious of my friend being a cop.[/QUOTE]Luck with foreign street walkers or actual Japanese prostitutes?
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[QUOTE=H4159;2873342]My friend and I checked out THC. The girl I drew had options for FS including Nama soto for extra charge. His first one only offered AF.[/QUOTE]Who?
I'm not interested in thc anymore either. Service seems to have gone down. They even said straight up they arent 100% foreigner friendly anymore after inquiring.
[QUOTE=H4159;2873342]My friend and I checked out THC. The girl I drew had options for FS including Nama soto for extra charge. His first one only offered AF.[/QUOTE]I'm still not taking my changes. Theres already crackdowns, and I wouldn't be surprised if it gets stricter.
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[QUOTE=Pegasus887;2874565]Who?
I'm not interested in thc anymore either. Service seems to have gone down. They even said straight up they arent 100% foreigner friendly anymore after inquiring.
I'm still not taking my changes. Theres already crackdowns, and I wouldn't be surprised if it gets stricter.[/QUOTE]Stop spreading misinformation about THC! It's foreign-friendly only!
What's with all the hate posts about this agency anyways? Most of the other options for foreigners are lackluster at best.
Even if you speak Japanese you still get the bottom feeders of the shops at any other foreigner-tolerant sex shop.
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Okubo Standing Girls
I knew a few Japanese American girls at work. They were quiet, shy, submissive, not the type with loud expressions of sexual desires and pleasures, kiss, caress, thrash around in bed, moan, whine, talk dirty near climax, the ways I like my sex partners.
The average Japanese girls in Tokyo on the streets are shy and self-effacing in public, wearing very loose-fitting blouses and dresses, also large loose pants, very Zen, like trying to hide all their feminine features. Their traditional kimonos would hide everything. You would never know if they are slim, fat, missing boobs, butts or any limbs.
But to me they are very nice, caring, obliging and helpful to foreigners. Without my asking, many approached me and helped with street directions, buying train tickets, operating coffee machines ect. All without verbal communication. One walked me all the way from the Tsukiji Fish Market to the Shinjuku train station to make sure I found it. Then they would giggle nervously like teenagers. A few seemed interested in me. Would have been nice to have private time with them, but I could be wrong about their interest and hit on the wrong women the wrong way hehe.
Waiting for taxi at the Fukuoka train station, half a dozen middle-school girls in short plaid skirts were walking home, stopped in and bought a cigarette pack from a machine. They were smoking near the entrance with many adults going in and out, seeing them smoke, but nobody said anything. They were serious like adults, not playing, kidding around like US teen agers, offered me a cigarette and urged me to smoke, very warm and caring girls. Looks like they like to conspire to enjoy pleasures of the flesh.
Met a nice, clean, young, pretty girl on the train from Osaka. She spoke English well enough, seemed warm, friendly, open for at least friendship. Will try to raise her the next trip.
Pink Salons only offer BJs. Did have BBBJ that turned into BBFS, banging around with a girls in a cramped wooden cubicle in a dark bar in Kyoto. I want the whole experience, romance, kissing, making out, full body contact, penetration, diddling, getting to know the girls' sexual personalities.
A few Okubo standing girls look very nice and pretty. Too bad they are weak and got trapped into prostitution to pay off debts to boys bars and Yakuzas. I could have provided more interesting company to them for free, traded may be only for sex. To get to know more about Japanese girls I can always ask directions from standing girls, ready to show them 10,000-Yen figure in my phone and walk to their love hotels. Cops cannot just arrest tourists for asking directions. It may work.
BTW I never see any cops in any city in Japan I went through. Don't know where they hide. I need local mongers who can show me all interesting sexy venues in Japan.
Here are pics of a few bar girls in Kabukicho going home in the morning. The blonde is a Mexican girl, Ariana. She worked in hostess bars in Tokyo, speaks good English and Japanese, now working in Hong Kong bar in Tijuana.
[QUOTE=AmPervert;2871191]I had Streetwalkers say Hello, to me, Chinese women around the train station. They were very friendly. One of them pulled out her phone and pointed me on the way to my hotel in Asakusa. Very nice. Just friendly directions. I didn't have a working cell phone that trip.
There are a lot of sleazy looking pimps around the Japanese SWs in the same area on my last visit. Maybe they were cops. They gave this Ghetto Kid the robbery vibe. The Japanese SWs didn't look particularly approachable either. They didn't make eye contact or say hello unless they were over 45.
Workaround? You are a foreigner. Ask for directions to a place. If the cops swoop in, you were just asking for directions.
[B]The foreigner friendly Pink Salons are way more fun and cheaper.[/B][/QUOTE]
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Okubo
[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2873678]Luck with foreign street walkers or actual Japanese prostitutes?[/QUOTE]For the Japanese girls, my friend got a pretty one for 15,000 around 8 pm. Other days we had 20,000 for the most part. I had 1 that was okay with 15,000 but the rest were 20,000.
One of the girls allegedly was "19" and said she had been doing it for about a year, but she looked incredibly not old so I can't confirm here age.
And we avoided the thai hoes or singaporeans or whatever they were, didn't ask and didn't want to know what their rates were.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2873502]Curious what prices you were paying around Okubo and how long the girls stayed with you.[/QUOTE]It was transactional experience. Some small chat, but mostly business, shower in the love hotel, do the deed and out. Some had BJ then the deed others no. I only had back and front positions with the ones I saw. They would let you know what was allowed or not. I'd say like 30 minutes, my friend had one that definately was complaining on the time it was taking him to finish.
They were definately working hard and even with the cold or rainy weather (maybe lesser number). And there were some pimpy looking guys there too.
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[QUOTE=Pegasus887;2874565]Who?
I'm not interested in thc anymore either. Service seems to have gone down. They even said straight up they arent 100% foreigner friendly anymore after inquiring.
I'm still not taking my changes. Theres already crackdowns, and I wouldn't be surprised if it gets stricter.[/QUOTE]I am new to this specific forum, is there private messaging? I don't want to get her in trouble as, well FS is technically not legal.
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[QUOTE=H4159;2875056]I am new to this specific forum, is there private messaging? I don't want to get her in trouble as, well FS is technically not legal.[/QUOTE]Have you bought a subscription?
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[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2874805]Stop spreading misinformation about THC! It's foreign-friendly only!
What's with all the hate posts about this agency anyways? Most of the other options for foreigners are lackluster at best.
Even if you speak Japanese you still get the bottom feeders of the shops at any other foreigner-tolerant sex shop.[/QUOTE]Just saying what the staff said. They don't take xxxx race.
I have no doubt what you said is true, other places you are only getting bottom feeders.
[QUOTE=H4159;2875056]I am new to this specific forum, is there private messaging? I don't want to get her in trouble as, well FS is technically not legal.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure. Something you wanted to ask me?
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Please provide proof
[QUOTE=Pegasus887;2875114]Just saying what the staff said. They don't take xxxx race.
I have no doubt what you said is true, other places you are only getting bottom feeders.
I'm not sure. Something you wanted to ask me?[/QUOTE]If you communicated with them I am sure you have the proof of text saying they don't take forigners. Would love to see your proof I litterally used them last week and I am mixed race which is considered black in Japan Zero issue. I think you got black listed for what ever reasons. Now your trying to bad mouth them, cause other than that THC is open for buiness and will see any foreigner.
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[QUOTE=Pegasus887;2875114]Just saying what the staff said. They don't take xxxx race.
I have no doubt what you said is true, other places you are only getting bottom feeders.
I'm not sure. Something you wanted to ask me?[/QUOTE]The whole concept of THC is that they welcome all races unless you are Japanese.
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Newbye in Tokio, I will be here for few days and then move to osaka, also for few days, anyone who wants to drink a beer and share notes around, just MP me.
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Cute DT facefuck cum in throat
I'm looking for cute girls Tokyo providing not just swallowing but real deepthroat where I can fuck her face, ready to give money in crypto to offer a session with her to you, for any real good intel you can give me.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2874976] One walked me all the way from the Tsukiji Fish Market to the Shinjuku train station to make sure I found it. [/QUOTE]Are you sure? That would be a 2 hour walk A Tokyoite would take the subway.
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[QUOTE=AmPervert;2871191]Workaround? You are a foreigner. Ask for directions to a place. If the cops swoop in, you were just asking for directions.[/QUOTE]Nobody will arrest you for chatting up a girl in Japan, and nobody will arrest a girl for chatting you up. Japan is a civilized country, unlike countries like the USA, Canada, or Sweden, where they entrap Johns.
Prostitution technically is illegal in Japan, but it is narrowly defined a peepee in wawa for benjis. Tough to prove.
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[QUOTE=TokyoExpat;2875987]The whole concept of THC is that they welcome all races unless you are Japanese.[/QUOTE]Yes and no. While THC itself welcomes all races, some THC girls will not see certain races / nationalities.
If you try to book one of these girls, THC staff will confirm your race during the booking process so there are no awkward surprises during the appointment.
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[QUOTE=AmPervert;2871191]I had Streetwalkers say Hello, to me, Chinese women around the train station. [/QUOTE]Those Chinese women around "the" train station (there are many in Tokyo) usually are no streetwalkers. They usually are touts. Also usually, you should not go with touts in Tokyo, except in the small red light district of Gotanda. The Chinese touts of Gotanda, prowling the streets after nightfall, will take you reliably to underground bordellos, where you can get FS for 10,000 yen, probably the lowest rate in all of Tokyo.
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Returning after years away.
Thanks to all for the great info in this thread.
I am returning to Tokyo, and mongering, for the first time in about 10-12 years, and will be sure to report my adventures.
This is a very long shot question, but I'm sure I would have got the original information off this site, but I can not find it now.
On my last trip to Tokyo I visited a building which I'm fairly certain was just inside the red light area in Shinjuku. Up on about the 6th floor there was a reception that was the entrance to a strip show with about 6 little booths surrounding the small centre stage. After the performer was finished she went around to each private booth and gave the customers each a HJ.
This was a fun experience, and would like to take a friend there for the novelty of it. So if anyone can remember, or knows of it, please let me know.
As a white tourist I know mongering will be challenging, but I'm sure it'll be fun. I plan on giving MilkyBaby a try, and also a few of the soaplands and pink salons reported on here.
Cheers.
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[QUOTE=Gnorman;2877559]Thanks to all for the great info in this thread.
I am returning to Tokyo, and mongering, for the first time in about 10-12 years, and will be sure to report my adventures.
This is a very long shot question, but I'm sure I would have got the original information off this site, but I can not find it now.
On my last trip to Tokyo I visited a building which I'm fairly certain was just inside the red light area in Shinjuku. Up on about the 6th floor there was a reception that was the entrance to a strip show with about 6 little booths surrounding the small centre stage. After the performer was finished she went around to each private booth and gave the customers each a HJ.
This was a fun experience, and would like to take a friend there for the novelty of it. So if anyone can remember, or knows of it, please let me know.
As a white tourist I know mongering will be challenging, but I'm sure it'll be fun. I plan on giving MilkyBaby a try, and also a few of the soaplands and pink salons reported on here.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]I'm not certain, but you seem to have described "New-Hot Point" in Shinjuku. Unfortunately, it closed several years ago.
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Thanks
[QUOTE=IcyBlue;2877772]I'm not certain, but you seem to have described "New-Hot Point" in Shinjuku. Unfortunately, it closed several years ago.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info IcyBlue.
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[QUOTE=GaijinRoamer;2870227][URL]https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20231026/p2a/00m/0na/034000c[/URL]
I don't have anything to add to the conversation, but the cops are very much aware and can confirm that people show up to 'people watch' the Johns attempting to pick up women.
[/QUOTE]Unless you pick up an obviously underage girl (age of consent in Tokyo is 18) nothing will happen to you. See [URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/1197354/japan-number-arrests-breaches-sex-industry-by-violation-type/[/URL] Last year, some 300 people were arrested (not necessarily charged, or convicted) for sex-related violations in all of Japan, a country that has more that 30,000 sex-related BUSINESSES, and easily more than 100,000 prostitutes. Men getting arrested and charged for consorting with prostitutes are unheard of. In any case, prostitution is narrowly defined as penis in vagina, everything else, including anal, is fair game. Okubo has received embarrassing media coverage, so occasionally, there are police sweeps where girls are picked up, carted away ... and let go. These sweeps are more common towards the end of the year.
Just to be safe, always carry your passport (or gaijin card) on you, it's the law in Japan, and lack of a passport can be a welcome technicality to hassle you.
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[QUOTE=Zhuren;2878083]Unless you pick up an obviously underage girl (age of consent in Tokyo is 18) nothing will happen to you. See [URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/1197354/japan-number-arrests-breaches-sex-industry-by-violation-type/[/URL] Last year, some 300 people were arrested (not necessarily charged, or convicted) for sex-related violations in all of Japan, a country that has more that 30,000 sex-related BUSINESSES, and easily more than 100,000 prostitutes. Men getting arrested and charged for consorting with prostitutes are unheard of. In any case, prostitution is narrowly defined as penis in vagina, everything else, including anal, is fair game. Okubo has received embarrassing media coverage, so occasionally, there are police sweeps where girls are picked up, carted away ... and let go. These sweeps are more common towards the end of the year.
Just to be safe, always carry your passport (or gaijin card) on you, it's the law in Japan, and lack of a passport can be a welcome technicality to hassle you.[/QUOTE]So this will be my last post on the street walkers, the statistic in above post is very misleading. Japanese don't generally arrest you till they are sure they can convict you. What they can do is detain you for up to 25 or so days, yes 25 plus days. Thats 25 days without you seeing a lawyer or talking to anyone they don't want you to. They also use some enhanced interrogation tactics. No they won't water board you. They will sleep deprive you, play werid random music. Put you in stress physicsl postions. For Americans all there required to do is notify the embassy that they are holding you. So unlike th states where you can just pay bail and leave your going to be stuck there. Thats the risk we warn you about not a conviction or arrest. As a foreigner one of two things will happen they will either see the ganjin card he mentioned let you go cause they don't want to deal with it or if it's a bad day they will hold you for the 25 days and mess with you because of your ganjin card. They don't worry about you jumping on the news and screaming false arrest Japanese police are very smart about what they do.
I know of a US service member arrested for trying to pick up a prostitute, one of the things they did prior to his detention is photograph him standing next to the girl. Showing the same girl he attempted to pick up. Also they had pictures of where she was standing the area and everything. Sure all these smart excuses might work, I was just asking directions, I was looking for somewhere maybe. But let me tell you guys this right now unlike the US where the girl will deny it to the end. These girls will admit to being a prostitute in a heartbeat. If asked why they were going somewhere with you they will sing like a canary. Now add that in with all the pictures even if they don't convict you the court of public appeal will. Oh yeah the Japanese never charged the service member or arrested him just detained for 3 days. It's why I also say those statistics aren't true. They did turn over all the pictures to the dod that picked him up.
Also the last part the for Okubo the reasons the police crack down on those areas and why most of us who live in Japan avoid them is because the vast majority of girls who use it are underage cause they can't do it the legal way. So add that in that you were talking to an underage girl. Before all of you jump in and say you'll be able to tell if the girls is underage yeah good luck with that. Be safe out there, to many other options that are just as fun. There are message boards and a whole bunch of other stuff out there for the kinky risk stuff. Just had my first car hook up heading to a gangbang in bar on Thursday.
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[QUOTE=David032;2878413]So this will be my last post on the street walkers, the statistic in above post is very misleading .... blah, blah, blah ....They did turn over all the pictures to the dod that picked him up. [/QUOTE]Alright, give me just one documented case of a male customer being picked up for talking to a girl at Okubo. Extra points if the guy was held for 25 days.
Source: I've lived in Tokyo for 20 years.
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Scam alert
Gentlemen:
Be very wary of "experts" telling you cock&bull stories about the dangers of Tokyo, and that you are liable to land in jail unless you frequent a certain foreigner-friendly establishment. It's a well-known scam here on ISG, targeted at naοve tourists fresh off the boat. As long as you don't go with a Nigerian tout, or listen to the advice of said "experts," wonderful Tokyo is one of the safest towns in the world. Tokyo offers one of the world's widest spectrums of erotic offerings, so don't sell yourself short by going to always the same overpriced tourist trap.
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I gave an example in my post
[QUOTE=Zhuren;2878526]Alright, give me just one documented case of a male customer being picked up for talking to a girl at Okubo. Extra points if the guy was held for 25 days.
Source: I've lived in Tokyo for 20 years.[/QUOTE]Dod service member happened last year, made the military blotter for the local area. He was held for 5 days before released no charges by the Japanese. So yes it did happen and there is way more than that. Unfortunately there is no way to Google it as unlike the US they don't report all detentions. The best you'll get is word of mouth you'll only hear about major raids. I know about the dod guy because have a friend who works on the base with there security guy.
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Y Soapland
Spent a little over a month in Japan from the end of September to November. Wanted to check out some of the options while I was in Tokyo before heading to Osaka. After going through pages arguments, cryptic reports, and conflicting information, I decided to cross reference with some other forums including Japanese ones. Ending up going to Y (Y-Shirt Watashi). From some other reviews, I got a list of girls who were popular / recommended a lot and checked their schedule (Can be found on dozens of websites). A little more information about me: Don't know Japanese and I'm Black.
I get there around noon and the workers there happily welcome me in. Didn't even need to ask if foreigners were okay. Take my shoes off and they ask me if I had been before. I say no and they ask me some simple follow up questions before sending me to a waiting room. There was one other guy also in the waiting room. Same man comes back and gives me a list of cards with pictures and names on them (same pictures from their website). I ask about one of the girls I saw from another review and he told me she wouldn't be in until later. He recommended another girl and decided to roll the dice. (Spoiler, ended up seeing her four times) Turns out that was just the pre-waiting room. I was then taking to another waiting room right across the hall. Same man asks me how long I want and writes down the prices for each time slot. Each girl has a different "Rank" with slightly different pricing and different timing. Ended up doing 70 for 25,000. He comes back with my change in in less than a minute. Another minute later, I'm out the door and around the corner to another building to meet the girl. Every visit after the first one was done in their original building though.
When I finally meet her, she is super bubbly and smiley. She's slightly below average height for a Japanese girl with short hair that doesn't go past her shoulders. It is her in the pictures but exaggerated in typical gravure / magazine style. She's physically very cute and her personality adds a lot to it. Her English is about as good as my Japanese, so not very. The room has a bed with towels for bedsheets. A tub that has already been running, and a shower hose. We talk for a little bit using google translate and our limited vocabulary and get comfortable. She gives me a basket to put my stuff in, including my clothes. She's very hands on and giggly while we undress. She's playfully shy as we undress before we get to the shower. She directs me to one of those famous soapland chairs. She mixes some soaps together before giving me a thorough and intimate wash. Once I'm clean enough, she directs me to the tub which is overflowing with hot water at this point. I get in as calmly as I can but water still ends up splashing everywhere. We then do some quick oral hygiene with a disposable toothbrush and some pretty weak mouthwash.
After all the routine has ended, she shuts off the water. Just as calmly, she tries to get into the tub without disturbing too much of the water. Still, it erupts everywhere and she's still giggling about it. With her on top of me in the tub, she leans in very close and kisses me like she had known me her whole life. GFE would be an understatement. She reciprocated in every way, sometimes I had to catch up to her energy. I could feel her smiling with some slight moaning inbetween each kiss. We shuffled around in the water as I got a feel for her body, not shying away from any eye contact. If you are new to soaplands, this is the make or break point that'll likely sell you. After the bath, she asks me if I want to use the giant inflatable matt. I declined so I can't speak for that. At this point, I could go on and on about our time. Multiple positions, giving and receiving, multiple pops. Everything that I needed was on the table, but of course YMMV depending on your needs and the girl. Like I said earlier, I ended up seeing her 4 times. Each time was so much better than the last and we got more comfortable with each other. Even had a fun day of role reversal where I sat her in the chair and cleaned her.
The reason why she is not named is because she asked me not to, which is fair. Ended up getting her number and her real name. Was even able to break a few soapland rules and get some pictures, although I wouldn't count on this. Even if you are just a regular old sex fiend uninterested in GFE, this soapland has cheaper options / timeslots as low as 12,000円 for 40. Have been active on some other forums but decided to drop an actual review here on my limited experience. Hope it helps and good luck.
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Why-Shirts to Watashi
Seemed you landed on some treasure here buddy!. I've been looking into THC but I get mixed reviews about possibility of FS being on table for some escorts. Then I saw your review here of why-Shirt. Did you mean FS was included on your package of 25 K or it's a matter of negotiating with the girl for extras once inside. I would like to try my luck at this establishment as well.
[QUOTE=Froogy56;2879541]Spent a little over a month in Japan from the end of September to November. Wanted to check out some of the options while I was in Tokyo before heading to Osaka. After going through pages arguments, cryptic reports, and conflicting information, I decided to cross reference with some other forums including Japanese ones. Ending up going to Y (Y-Shirt Watashi). From some other reviews, I got a list of girls who were popular / recommended a lot and checked their schedule (Can be found on dozens of websites). A little more information about me: Don't know Japanese and I'm Black.
I get there around noon and the workers there happily welcome me in. Didn't even need to ask if foreigners were okay. Take my shoes off and they ask me if I had been before. I say no and they ask me some simple follow up questions before sending me to a waiting room. There was one other guy also in the waiting room. Same man comes back and gives me a list of cards with pictures and names on them (same pictures from their website). I ask about one of the girls I saw from another review and he told me she wouldn't be in until later. He recommended another girl and decided to roll the dice. (Spoiler, ended up seeing her four times) Turns out that was just the pre-waiting room. I was then taking to another waiting room right across the hall. Same man asks me how long I want and writes down the prices for each time slot. Each girl has a different "Rank" with slightly different pricing and different timing. Ended up doing 70 for 25,000. He comes back with my change in in less than a minute. Another minute later, I'm out the door and around the corner to another building to meet the girl. Every visit after the first one was done in their original building though.
When I finally meet her, she is super bubbly and smiley. She's slightly below average height for a Japanese girl with short hair that doesn't go past her shoulders. It is her in the pictures but exaggerated in typical gravure / magazine style. She's physically very cute and her personality adds a lot to it. Her English is about as good as my Japanese, so not very. The room has a bed with towels for bedsheets. A tub that has already been running, and a shower hose. We talk for a little bit using google translate and our limited vocabulary and get comfortable. She gives me a basket to put my stuff in, including my clothes. She's very hands on and giggly while we undress. She's playfully shy as we undress before we get to the shower. She directs me to one of those famous soapland chairs. She mixes some soaps together before giving me a thorough and intimate wash. Once I'm clean enough, she directs me to the tub which is overflowing with hot water at this point. I get in as calmly as I can but water still ends up splashing everywhere. We then do some quick oral hygiene with a disposable toothbrush and some pretty weak mouthwash.
After all the routine has ended, she shuts off the water. Just as calmly, she tries to get into the tub without disturbing too much of the water. Still, it erupts everywhere and she's still giggling about it. With her on top of me in the tub, she leans in very close and kisses me like she had known me her whole life. GFE would be an understatement. She reciprocated in every way, sometimes I had to catch up to her energy. I could feel her smiling with some slight moaning inbetween each kiss. We shuffled around in the water as I got a feel for her body, not shying away from any eye contact. If you are new to soaplands, this is the make or break point that'll likely sell you. After the bath, she asks me if I want to use the giant inflatable matt. I declined so I can't speak for that. At this point, I could go on and on about our time. Multiple positions, giving and receiving, multiple pops. Everything that I needed was on the table, but of course YMMV depending on your needs and the girl. Like I said earlier, I ended up seeing her 4 times. Each time was so much better than the last and we got more comfortable with each other. Even had a fun day of role reversal where I sat her in the chair and cleaned her.
The reason why she is not named is because she asked me not to, which is fair. Ended up getting her number and her real name. Was even able to break a few soapland rules and get some pictures, although I wouldn't count on this. Even if you are just a regular old sex fiend uninterested in GFE, this soapland has cheaper options / timeslots as low as 12,000円 for 40. Have been active on some other forums but decided to drop an actual review here on my limited experience. Hope it helps and good luck.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=IcyBlue;2877772]I'm not certain, but you seem to have described "New-Hot Point" in Shinjuku. Unfortunately, it closed several years ago.[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] New Hot Point indeed is closed (good riddance,) but there is Peep Madonna in the heart of Kabukicho, across from the Godzilla head, at Kabukicho Tower. Not 6 flights up, one flight down. Same service as described above. One of the cheapest handjobs in all of Tokyo.
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[QUOTE=Charles96;2880319]Seemed you landed on some treasure here buddy!. I've been looking into THC but I get mixed reviews about possibility of FS being on table for some escorts. Then I saw your review here of why-Shirt. Did you mean FS was included on your package of 25 K or it's a matter of negotiating with the girl for extras once inside. I would like to try my luck at this establishment as well.[/QUOTE]Yeah, FS was included and I don't think how long you go for matters. From what I've seen looking at other boards and talking to others who have been to why-shirt, you'll always get FS. Once I met her, there was no talk about times, prices, or any sort of implications. Everything just fell into place naturally. I know Kaoru is popular there and she has many glowing reviews from others.
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[QUOTE=Charles96;2880319]Seemed you landed on some treasure here buddy!. I've been looking into THC but I get mixed reviews about possibility of FS being on table for some escorts. Then I saw your review here of why-Shirt. Did you mean FS was included on your package of 25 K or it's a matter of negotiating with the girl for extras once inside. I would like to try my luck at this establishment as well.[/QUOTE]At the other forum that shall not be named, Kaoru now is at review #56 or so, not necesarily a secret treasure. Ot sounds like everybody of that forum had her by now.
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[QUOTE=Froogy56;2880532]Yeah, FS was included and I don't think how long you go for matters. From what I've seen looking at other boards and talking to others who have been to why-shirt, you'll always get FS. Once I met her, there was no talk about times, prices, or any sort of implications. Everything just fell into place naturally. I know Kaoru is popular there and she has many glowing reviews from others.[/QUOTE]To avoid any disappointed impressions that the famous Kaoru would be available at 25 K for an unlimited time, here are a few current time / price quotes from that other Tokyo forum:
48,000 yen for 120 minutes.
90 minutes 36 k.
70 minutes / 28000 Yen includeing 3 k Yen nomination fee.
90 min & ₯36,000.
90 minutes - 36,000 ₯.
90 Minutes - 36,000 Yen (33,000 + Nomination Fee).
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[QUOTE=Zhuren;2880398]Where are the alleged Tokyo experts? New Hot Point indeed is closed (good riddance,) but there is Peep Madonna in the heart of Kabukicho, across from the Godzilla head, at Kabukicho Tower. Not 6 flights up, one flight down. Same service as described above. One of the cheapest handjobs in all of Tokyo.[/QUOTE]Brilliant information, thank you.
I will be sure to report back if I am able to locate it.
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[QUOTE=Zhuren;2880602]To avoid any disappointed impressions that the famous Kaoru would be available at 25 K for an unlimited time, here are a few current time / price quotes from that other Tokyo forum:
48,000 yen for 120 minutes.
90 minutes 36 k.
70 minutes / 28000 Yen includeing 3 k Yen nomination fee.
90 min & 36,000.
90 minutes - 36,000 .
90 Minutes - 36,000 Yen (33,000 + Nomination Fee).[/QUOTE]Yes of course, the time isn't unlimited. You can always ask the girl how much time you have left. There'll be a buzzer / ring when there's a few minutes left. I've gone over once or twice by a few minutes without any problem though. Attached is Kaoru's current pricing and schedule according to the website. Sidenote, these prices might be 3 k more Yen after your first time. If you are keen on making appointments, you can reach out to her on Line to confirm a time / date beforehand and let them know when you get there.
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Kaoru
With FS guaranteed, It's my time to check for myself what's all the fuss about Kaoru. Thanks for the info man.
[QUOTE=Froogy56;2880748]Yes of course, the time isn't unlimited. You can always ask the girl how much time you have left. There'll be a buzzer / ring when there's a few minutes left. I've gone over once or twice by a few minutes without any problem though. Attached is Kaoru's current pricing and schedule according to the website. Sidenote, these prices might be 3 k more Yen after your first time. If you are keen on making appointments, you can reach out to her on Line to confirm a time / date beforehand and let them know when you get there.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Froogy56;2880532]Yeah, FS was included and I don't think how long you go for matters. From what I've seen looking at other boards and talking to others who have been to why-shirt, you'll always get FS. Once I met her, there was no talk about times, prices, or any sort of implications. Everything just fell into place naturally. I know Kaoru is popular there and she has many glowing reviews from others.[/QUOTE]Any soapland you go to has FS if you can get in that is. Though sometimes soaplands can be mistake for mat play. Which is just a kind of nuru place. The problem with soaplands is there is usually a language barrier. So they are harder to get in than other places. So a find like this is awesome GFE Japan opened there own soapland. Haven't tried it yet myself so not sure if the girls are any good.
The other thing to be ready for is a lot of soaplands add gajin tax. So don't be suprised if it says one price on the website but it's 5000 yen more.
The highest gajin tax I have heard about is 10000 yen extra.
A good resource as well is the below sites it will have lists and locations ofevery adult services in most areas. Hime eve allows you the ability to chat with the models before hand.
[URL]https://www.cityheaven.net/[/URL]
[URL]https://hime-channel.com/[/URL]
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Kiwami dendoushi
Thinking of trying out Kiwami Dendoushi [URL]https://kiwami-dendoushi.eroticguide.tokyo/[/URL].
Anyone have any exp with them? Non-japanese speaker here.
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[QUOTE=Ohwtflol;2881447]Thinking of trying out Kiwami Dendoushi [URL]https://kiwami-dendoushi.eroticguide.tokyo/[/URL].
Anyone have any exp with them? Non-japanese speaker here.[/QUOTE]The place was alright.
Pretty raunchy "delivery health" shop specializing in nasty stuff like "instant blowjob" (she sucks your cock before washing it), rimming, rimming / BJ combo from two women, etc.
Not really as great as it sounds.
You call, set up appointment, and they send the lady out. No delivery fee in Ikebukuro. You had to pay extra in the other 22 wards.
The phone guy could barely speak English, but he made a real effort. You just had to talk VERY slowly. They also give you a form to explain what kind of stuff you like, except it is in Japanese!
It wasn't bad though.
I think it's done now. The website has been dead for a while. Were you able to get a hold of anybody there?
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[QUOTE=PieCake1234;2837192]Going to Japan with my girlfriend (she's Japanese so can speak but can't read / write) and she's open to me finding a girl for us both to have fun with. Any advice on what places might be open to us?[/QUOTE]Tokyo Style is open to couples. You wouldn't get to penetrate the provider, but she would do a really good erotic massage to both of you followed by HJ / fingering BJ / licking. I have to think that would be a lot of fun. Probably better for a lot of women who want something more sensual than hardcore too.
I just got massages from two of the women there. Koyuki was really good, and I notice that her profile says "Lady OK". [URL]https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/profile.php?cid=Koyuki[/URL].
You could also try some of the happening clubs, but they're being hit hard by LE lately. Plus they want you to sign up for membership, which would probably be difficult if you can't speak much Japanese.
There are a decent number of swingers in Tokyo including a number of "unicorn" single women!
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[QUOTE=Charles96;2880319]Seemed you landed on some treasure here buddy!. I've been looking into THC but I get mixed reviews about possibility of FS being on table for some escorts. Then I saw your review here of why-Shirt. Did you mean FS was included on your package of 25 K or it's a matter of negotiating with the girl for extras once inside. I would like to try my luck at this establishment as well.[/QUOTE]When it comes to the "deli helu" places it really is hit or miss. Some place are outright no FS. I appreciate that because I know what I am getting into in advance. For the others I usually look to see if "AF" is listed as one of their services.
Technically this means "Anal fuck" but I've found that it usually means they will do FS. Although I did run into one specific provider pre-covid who insisted I could indeed fuck her ass but not her vagina. I passed and took a mediocre blow job instead.
FS is pretty much guaranteed in any Yoshiwara soapland. The question there is whether or not they will let you in. Some places are more foreign friendly than others. If you "look Asian" you have the best shot.
Otherwise there seem to be three main ways to get inside as a foreigner:
1. Go to the cheapest places.
2. Go the most expensive places.
3. Show up very early before most other customers.
This has always worked for me. I look very un-Japanese and cannot speak much of the language. But I've been enjoying the local scene off and on for several years.
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Tokyo Style Massage
On my latest trip to Tokyo I decided to try out some a couple of the places that advertise themselves as being foreigner friendly. After all these years of visiting I am tired of fighting my way through all sorts of Japanese language information only to be told 'sorry no foreigners. ' I've been rejected from one too many soapland and pink salon over the years. I have to admit I find it a little offensive even if I do understand.
I would say I know Tokyo and the scene fairly well considering I am definitely a foreigner / "gaijin" with very low level of Japanese speaking skill (though I can read somewhat well). I guess my experience around Asia helps me with confidence a bit. I still get disheartened when I am rejected simply for being from another country though.
I typically imagine that anything open to foreigners and tourists is going to be a scam or overpriced. I was pleasantly surprised by a place called Tokyo Style. What drew me to the place was the very clear explanation of what was being offered. A lot of places in Tokyo have really confusing websites with all kinds of different info. Sometimes you can't tell if you're going to get FS, just a BJ or nothing at all!
This place has two options: standard or deluxe. Then you can choose how long you want. 75 minutes, 90 minutes, 120 minutes, etc. The sweet spot for me ended up being 120 minutes which left plenty of time for everything. With the current exchange rate you get a pretty good deal if you're coming with US dollars.
With the standard you get a real therapeutic massage with an extended tantric style dick and ball massage. You can touch her tits, but mainly you're receiving more than giving.
With the deluxe the provider is fully nude. You get the same therapeutic massage but that's followed up by a BJ. Again you can touch tits or lick on her nipples and at least in my experience you get some oily titty fucking too.
I did my first session "standard" but after trying the deluxe on the second time I realized that's the way to go. The HJ on the standard was actually really good, but I got a lot out of the fully nude massage. At one point she flipped me over and was rubbing my legs and feet in 69 position. I was inches away from her bald clam and tight little pucker. It really got me going. So I will write about my deluxe experience.
I contacted Tokyo Style over Line. This is a really useful app to have on your phone in Japan (and Thailand). I got an answer back in just a few minutes. I was able to communicate easily. Their reception people are totally capable in English, which is great. A lot of times you find people using Google translate and taking ten minutes to answer a question. I got the feeling they have someone fluent on the other end.
Anyway I asked to meet Koyuki for a 120 minute deluxe session. Most of the women on the website look good, but pictures can be edited. Koyuki's picture caught my eye immediately because she did not hide her face. I took this to mean she is not embarrassed about the work. It also gave me a chance to see exactly who I would meet.
A few more things stood out about her profile: she has a Japanese F cup, she does blowjobs without a condom, and she is learning English. I figured I would have a good time with her even if the pictures ended up being photoshopped.
I booked about 3 hours ahead and had Koyuki sent to my hotel room in Shibuya Ward. I had to give them my first name and hotel room number to confirm. They answered back quickly and the appointment was made. I went downstairs to get a quick bowl of udon at Hanamaru (highly recommended fuel for mongering. Cheap and easy on the stomach). Time went pretty fast and before I knew it I had a message to tell me she was on the way. Moments later I heard a soft knock on the door.
I was VERY pleased to see that she looked as good or better than the picture. She's totally Japanese but she almost has a white girl / eastern European look to her face. Don't get me wrong, you can definitely tell she's Japanese. But she has an exoticism to her.
Koyuki wasn't kidding about learning English. But she was able to explain everything to me so it all worked out well. To be honest, I actually prefer just being able to relax and not worry about entertaining a girl when I'm getting serviced. I just want to unwind when I'm paying for a massage.
Koyuki has big boobs for a Japanese woman. They pressed against me when we hugged. She smelled great too. I was sure I made the right choice when she slipped out of her long tight skirt. She was wearing matching lingerie under some stockings. Super hot. She slowly stripped it all off and giggled when she saw me staring with my tongue hanging out. Then she came over to me and took off all my clothes. She was really erotic about the whole thing. It was like being with a new GF for the first time. I don't get experiences like that often in the mongering world. Especially in Japan!
My room was a little small but Koyuki made it work. She took me by the hand and I followed her into the bathroom. It was something watching that little ass wiggle on the way! She put me in the shower and I was already half erect. She made sure to spend extra time soaping up my shaft and again she giggled as it grew. It was as if she was excited to see where things would go.
I expected to dry myself off so I reached for the towel. Like a true servant Koyuki grabbed it first and patted me dry. I love this kind of service. It makes you remember why Japan is so great. Where else are you going to find this? Even my favorite saunas leave me to shower alone.
Anyway the massage started next. She used some kind of device to put an aroma in the air. I was able to choose lavender from a few scents she had. A nice touch I guess, but all I was thinking about were her silky 24 year old thighs pressing against my legs as she started rubbing my back with oil. The massage was actually really good. I mean, it was a real massage! At some point the stirring in my balls simmered down and I almost drifted off.
Just about then she said something like "okay, please turn over. " I rubbed my eyes and felt like I was coming out of a dream. Seeing her demure smile and nicely hanging rack brought me back around quickly. She continued to rub my front side while turning me on. When she turned around and started working on my lower extremities I really got to admire her body from the back. She has a really nice and shapely rear. Every time I would catch a glimpse of her holes my dick would twitch and pulse. She must have noticed but she kept on massaging which only made my anticipation grow.
I think I was actually sitting up with my head off the pillow when she turned back around. She gently guided my head back and then started kissing and licking her way down my chest. When she got to my nipples her hand started lightly working my now stiff cock. She really took her time getting down to my dick. By the time she slipped my head into her mouth I thought I would jizz instantly.
Somehow she has a lot of experience for her age. She was able to control my body completely by sucking and licking on my rod and alternating the speed. She really worked my shaft and drew things out to elongate the pleasure. After about fifteen minutes she started speeding up and stroking it. I figured she was just going to jack me off to get the sperm out. But right when the first spurt erupted she put the whole thing in her mouth and held it. Total satisfaction!
I was definitely impressed by Koyuki. My meeting with her is in my top encounters in Japan of all time. I left feeling totally relieved and relaxed. I didn't even go out that night, which is pretty rare for me. My nuts were totally drained and my mind and body were relaxed. Top tier, absolutely one of the best sexual massages I've had anywhere.
Shop: Tokyo Style [URL]https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp[/URL].
Provider: Koyuki.
Total damage: 48,000 Yen.
Rating: 10/10 would repeat.
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Queation
[QUOTE=RickRock;2882111]On my latest trip to Tokyo I decided to try out some a couple of the places that advertise themselves as being foreigner friendly. After all these years of visiting I am tired of fighting my way through all sorts of Japanese language information only to be told 'sorry no foreigners. ' I've been rejected from one too many soapland and pink salon over the years. I have to admit I find it a little offensive even if I do understand.
I would say I know Tokyo and the scene fairly well considering I am definitely a foreigner / "gaijin" with very low level of Japanese speaking skill (though I can read somewhat well). I guess my experience around Asia helps me with confidence a bit. I still get disheartened when I am rejected simply for being from another country though.
I typically imagine that anything open to foreigners and tourists is going to be a scam or overpriced. I was pleasantly surprised by a place called Tokyo Style. What drew me to the place was the very clear explanation of what was being offered. A lot of places in Tokyo have really confusing websites with all kinds of different info. Sometimes you can't tell if you're going to get FS, just a BJ or nothing at all!
This place has two options: standard or deluxe. Then you can choose how long you want. 75 minutes, 90 minutes, 120 minutes, etc. The sweet spot for me ended up being 120 minutes which left plenty of time for everything. With the current exchange rate you get a pretty good deal if you're coming with US dollars.
With the standard you get a real therapeutic massage with an extended tantric style dick and ball massage. You can touch her tits, but mainly you're receiving more than giving.
With the deluxe the provider is fully nude. You get the same therapeutic massage but that's followed up by a BJ. Again you can touch tits or lick on her nipples and at least in my experience you get some oily titty fucking too.
I did my first session "standard" but after trying the deluxe on the second time I realized that's the way to go. The HJ on the standard was actually really good, but I got a lot out of the fully nude massage. At one point she flipped me over and was rubbing my legs and feet in 69 position. I was inches away from her bald clam and tight little pucker. It really got me going. So I will write about my deluxe experience.
I contacted Tokyo Style over Line. This is a really useful app to have on your phone in Japan (and Thailand). I got an answer back in just a few minutes. I was able to communicate easily. Their reception people are totally capable in English, which is great. A lot of times you find people using Google translate and taking ten minutes to answer a question. I got the feeling they have someone fluent on the other end.
Anyway I asked to meet Koyuki for a 120 minute deluxe session. Most of the women on the website look good, but pictures can be edited. Koyuki's picture caught my eye immediately because she did not hide her face. I took this to mean she is not embarrassed about the work. It also gave me a chance to see exactly who I would meet.
A few more things stood out about her profile: she has a Japanese F cup, she does blowjobs without a condom, and she is learning English. I figured I would have a good time with her even if the pictures ended up being photoshopped.
I booked about 3 hours ahead and had Koyuki sent to my hotel room in Shibuya Ward. I had to give them my first name and hotel room number to confirm. They answered back quickly and the appointment was made. I went downstairs to get a quick bowl of udon at Hanamaru (highly recommended fuel for mongering. Cheap and easy on the stomach). Time went pretty fast and before I knew it I had a message to tell me she was on the way. Moments later I heard a soft knock on the door.
I was VERY pleased to see that she looked as good or better than the picture. She's totally Japanese but she almost has a white girl / eastern European look to her face. Don't get me wrong, you can definitely tell she's Japanese. But she has an exoticism to her.
Koyuki wasn't kidding about learning English. But she was able to explain everything to me so it all worked out well. To be honest, I actually prefer just being able to relax and not worry about entertaining a girl when I'm getting serviced. I just want to unwind when I'm paying for a massage.
Koyuki has big boobs for a Japanese woman. They pressed against me when we hugged. She smelled great too. I was sure I made the right choice when she slipped out of her long tight skirt. She was wearing matching lingerie under some stockings. Super hot. She slowly stripped it all off and giggled when she saw me staring with my tongue hanging out. Then she came over to me and took off all my clothes. She was really erotic about the whole thing. It was like being with a new GF for the first time. I don't get experiences like that often in the mongering world. Especially in Japan!
My room was a little small but Koyuki made it work. She took me by the hand and I followed her into the bathroom. It was something watching that little ass wiggle on the way! She put me in the shower and I was already half erect. She made sure to spend extra time soaping up my shaft and again she giggled as it grew. It was as if she was excited to see where things would go.
I expected to dry myself off so I reached for the towel. Like a true servant Koyuki grabbed it first and patted me dry. I love this kind of service. It makes you remember why Japan is so great. Where else are you going to find this? Even my favorite saunas leave me to shower alone.
Anyway the massage started next. She used some kind of device to put an aroma in the air. I was able to choose lavender from a few scents she had. A nice touch I guess, but all I was thinking about were her silky 24 year old thighs pressing against my legs as she started rubbing my back with oil. The massage was actually really good. I mean, it was a real massage! At some point the stirring in my balls simmered down and I almost drifted off.
Just about then she said something like "okay, please turn over. " I rubbed my eyes and felt like I was coming out of a dream. Seeing her demure smile and nicely hanging rack brought me back around quickly. She continued to rub my front side while turning me on. When she turned around and started working on my lower extremities I really got to admire her body from the back. She has a really nice and shapely rear. Every time I would catch a glimpse of her holes my dick would twitch and pulse. She must have noticed but she kept on massaging which only made my anticipation grow.
I think I was actually sitting up with my head off the pillow when she turned back around. She gently guided my head back and then started kissing and licking her way down my chest. When she got to my nipples her hand started lightly working my now stiff cock. She really took her time getting down to my dick. By the time she slipped my head into her mouth I thought I would jizz instantly.
Somehow she has a lot of experience for her age. She was able to control my body completely by sucking and licking on my rod and alternating the speed. She really worked my shaft and drew things out to elongate the pleasure. After about fifteen minutes she started speeding up and stroking it. I figured she was just going to jack me off to get the sperm out. But right when the first spurt erupted she put the whole thing in her mouth and held it. Total satisfaction!
I was definitely impressed by Koyuki. My meeting with her is in my top encounters in Japan of all time. I left feeling totally relieved and relaxed. I didn't even go out that night, which is pretty rare for me. My nuts were totally drained and my mind and body were relaxed. Top tier, absolutely one of the best sexual massages I've had anywhere.
Shop: Tokyo Style [URL]https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp[/URL].
Provider: Koyuki.
Total damage: 48,000 Yen.
Rating: 10/10 would repeat.[/QUOTE]Was there a second pop option if wanted.
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No street girls at Okubo Park
It's freezing cold. Lots young people were out walking to Shinjuku, but did not see any street girls around 8 pm.
A security guy was standing in the middle of the street staring at every one. Looks like street girls were scared away.
Lots of cute little girls in short dresses touting for Shinjuku bars in the cold night.
2 AM ran into a few bar girls in short dresses but they did not engage.
Reviews complained Hentai and Soapland list lots of hot young girls but women in 40's and 50's were substituted. Same thing happens with Japanese massage houses in LOS Angeles. I would never pay these old women to fuck.
Heading down to Vietnam for nuru inclu 2 pops with hot young girls for $25. I heard they are very hungry for business due to tourism slow down.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2882111]
I typically imagine that anything open to foreigners and tourists is going to be a scam or overpriced. [/QUOTE]It usually is, and this one is no exception.
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Ikebukuro Marine Blue Honten
[QUOTE=PhillyDogg111;2872833]Thanks to fellow mongers for info on first time visit to Tokyo. I speak zero Japanese. Read about Marine Blue that accepts foreigners. I Googled the MB site and used google maps to find the location. Its on the fifth floor of a building located in Shinjuko, near the Prince Hotel. Went up with no reservation. Picked 'Onya' from the list. 36000 yen for 50 minutes. Marine Blue offers early morning for 24,000 yen if before 9 AM. Few rules no camera, no mistreatment of workers etc. Enter the room Onya helps me disrobe. She is beautiful about 27 years and speaks decent English. Sit on Nuro chair and she gives full body massage. Almost lost there. Next into warm water. Tub and she begins BBBJ. Its heaven as she is between my legs. Back to bed DFK. CFS and BBBJ to CIM. Cuddles me for 10 minutes. If I lived in Tokyo. I would be broke. Highly recommend to foreign visitors. They have a 90 minute visit available.[/QUOTE]Cheers on your success at Marine Blue! I have yet to post my recent trip, but I went to Marine Blue Ikebukuro Honten 本24215; next to the Don Quijote. Despite the website having listings for Gaijin in Japanese (22806;20154 I was rejected.
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Okubo Hospital
Weather was freezing cold. Puts ropes on sidewalk around its perimeter "No Standing. ".
Half a dozen Middle Eastern guys on their phones mill around that intersection day and night.
About 8 found a very hot young girl in a heavy overcoat stand behind a wall. A guy was talking to her. After a while she went in a love hotel with him.
Late night a long noisy confrontation broke out on the street, a dozen men and women were pushing, shoving each other for something.
Okubo has no sex.
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Soapland New Grande Shinjuku
On recommendation of a friend I tried this Soapland in Kabuki-cho. It can be found on Google and the Translation function works rather well. Having said that I am Caucasian, but I speak Japanese rather fluent. I did not pre-book, and the choices of talents accepting foreigners was limited to two. Both looked young in the pictures and at least the one I chose "Ramu" actually was quite young with nice breasts and ass. Apart from the limited talents the other downside for foreigners is that there is a JPY 10 k Gaijin surcharge which makes the whole experience pricey. The service was excellent with meticulous (and engaging) cleaning, bathing and then the whole nine yards.
It seems they also take non-Japanese speaking foreigners but it heavily depends on the availability of "foreigner-friendly" gals at that specific time.
To all foreign mongers, please treat the girls respectfully and follow Japanese etiquette (in case of doubt just follow the gal, she will show you the do's and don'ts) so that this great venue remains open also to non-Japanese.
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Okubo Hospital and park
The afternoon before I found a fairly attractive woman, in a long coat, with umbrella and a bottle of water, typical street girls attire, standing on sidewalk just shy of the No Standing sign and rope.
I looked at her face but she maintain her gaze, not glancing back. I did not want to risk offending legit woman so I walked. Looks like Okubo street girls need to be convinced to hook.
Next afternoon a very old and ugly woman was standing at the same spot in her street girls gears. She was staring at me licking her chops but no way I could even look at such women, much less fucking them.
Went to Soapland Shinjuku. 2 girls were in, looking homely, below average, wanted 30 K yens for 1 hour massage. Extras must be negotiated in the room. I walked.
A guy took a nice girl in hotel at night, apparently street girls, no problem. Reception did not even look up.
Local bros told me Soapland, Hentai and gaijin joints are owned by jacuzas but operated by an old American who means to bleed foreigners.
I was referred to an alternate massage site for locals in Kawasaki, FS $120, but 3 women shown were in mid 40's 50's, not attractive.
Also a China town South of Tokyo has Mamasans on street touting Chinese women at lower rate.
Tokyo is not good and is way too expensive for sex.
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[QUOTE=David032;2882130]Was there a second pop option if wanted.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure. We went right to the timer. So there was no time for another shot. I usually like to cum once a day anyway.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2883662]Tokyo is not good and is way too expensive for sex.[/QUOTE]You can get your dick sucked for $25 in Tokyo!
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Where?
[QUOTE=RickRock;2885415]You can get your dick sucked for $25 in Tokyo![/QUOTE]Please, could you provide more details? Where we can find that girls?
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[QUOTE=Simplii;2885467]Please, could you provide more details? Where we can find that girls?[/QUOTE]Try here [URL]https://www.gloryholebar.com/ueno/[/URL].
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[QUOTE=Simplii;2885467]Please, could you provide more details? Where we can find that girls?[/QUOTE]Pink salons he is right Tokyo is awesome get your dick sucked anytime!
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Read the forum
[QUOTE=Simplii;2885467]Please, could you provide more details? Where we can find that girls?[/QUOTE]Why don't you guys read the forums, a day time special at " sorry no spoilers " is 4000 yen with current exchange rate just about 25 bucks. Jesus stop being lazy read the forums.
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[QUOTE=Simplii;2885467]Please, could you provide more details? Where we can find that girls?[/QUOTE]Places like Jan Jan Pink Salon in Sugamo.
[URL]https://janjan-sugamo.com/price/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2885614]Places like Jan Jan Pink Salon in Sugamo.
[URL]https://janjan-sugamo.com/price/[/URL][/QUOTE]Jan Jan has been there forever, and some of their service staff has been there since day one. Jan Jan is a well-known institute for sex conversion: It will turn healthy young men gay.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2883662]The afternoon before I found a fairly attractive woman, in a long coat, with umbrella and a bottle of water, typical street girls attire, standing on sidewalk just shy of the No Standing sign and rope.
I looked at her face but she maintain her gaze, not glancing back. I did not want to risk offending legit woman so I walked. Looks like Okubo street girls need to be convinced to hook.
Next afternoon a very old and ugly woman was standing at the same spot in her street girls gears. She was staring at me licking her chops but no way I could even look at such women, much less fucking them.
Went to Soapland Shinjuku. 2 girls were in, looking homely, below average, wanted 30 K yens for 1 hour massage. Extras must be negotiated in the room. I walked.
A guy took a nice girl in hotel at night, apparently street girls, no problem. Reception did not even look up.
Local bros told me Soapland, Hentai and gaijin joints are owned by jacuzas but operated by an old American who means to bleed foreigners.
I was referred to an alternate massage site for locals in Kawasaki, FS $120, but 3 women shown were in mid 40's 50's, not attractive.
Also a China town South of Tokyo has Mamasans on street touting Chinese women at lower rate.
Tokyo is not good and is way too expensive for sex.[/QUOTE]I've warned you away from Okubo, but you wouldn't listen.
You also didn't listen when I said the "Mamasans on street touting Chinese women at lower rate" (10,000 JPY for FS) are in Gotanda, not in "a China town South of Tokyo. ".
ISG is a suboptimal source when it comes to Tokyo monger-intelligence, I gave you the proper one, but you wouldn't listen.
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Narita Airport
Any options near Narita or NRT airport?
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[QUOTE=Zhuren;2885805]Jan Jan has been there forever, and some of their service staff has been there since day one. Jan Jan is a well-known institute for sex conversion: It will turn healthy young men gay.[/QUOTE]I won't say that you're wrong but I've been there a couple of times recently and I had pretty good experiences both times. They had good skills, and I was never rushed. On top of that, the last time I went my therapist was fairly attractive, and had huge breast and encouraged me to play with them even more. I'm not saying this is the best place around town but in my experience, it's getting a bad rap. That said, I may have just gotten lucky everytime so far but I don't know that to be true. One thing I will say to be objective is that Jan Jann does allow women in their early 40's whereas some places stop at their 30's. I personally have never gotten anywhere who felt older than early 30's which is fine by me. If you're strictly only looking for early 20's then Jan Jan may not be your best bet but I don't think it's that bad of a place.
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Okay
[QUOTE=Zhuren;2885805]Jan Jan has been there forever, and some of their service staff has been there since day one. Jan Jan is a well-known institute for sex conversion: It will turn healthy young men gay.[/QUOTE]I think you're being far too critical of a place that costs a measly 4000 yen. Jan Jan serves its purpose. A cheap, fast, low hassle release. I'd love to hear where you can dump your sack in Tokyo with fresh 22 year old Japanese beauties right out of their economics exams for that price.
The ladies at Jan Jan do their job, and when I've been they did it with enthusiasm. Not to mention, they don't bat an eye at foreigners. Even those with zero Japanese.
If you're looking to hook up with JAV models and chicks who look like idols, you're going to pay.
If it doesn't interest you, just say so. No need for hyperbole.
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[QUOTE=Gabriel071;2886956]Any options near Narita or NRT airport?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.cityheaven.net/chiba/A1204/A120401/shop-list/biz6/[/URL]
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Toyoko Ladies
Hey guys,
I wonder if someone have explore the Toyoko Ladies open to get help, in exchange of short term agreements.
Sounds risky to me, however if you speak good Japanese seems that you can make it.
(Sounds so illegal too, LOL) .
Any experience?
Thanks!
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No clue
[QUOTE=Simplii;2888080]Hey guys,
I wonder if someone have explore the Toyoko Ladies open to get help, in exchange of short term agreements.
Sounds risky to me, however if you speak good Japanese seems that you can make it.
(Sounds so illegal too, LOL) .
Any experience?
Thanks![/QUOTE]So are you talking about an agency a website just saying Tokyo ladies doesn't give much frame of reference.
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Nope
[QUOTE=David032;2888089]So are you talking about an agency a website just saying Tokyo ladies doesn't give much frame of reference.[/QUOTE]Nope, I'm talking about the Toyoko K phenomenon, homeless young people in Japan.
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Observations from my online research
I will be visiting Tokyo for the first time next month. Lots of soap places to choose from. I narrowed it down to why-shirt and Rothenburg because they share the same building. What I found fascinating is most of the why-shirt ladies are early 20's in age and 33,000 Y for 2 hours, whereas most of the Rothenburg ladies (classified as "married" so I guess that means divorced) are early 30's in age and only 22,000 Y for 2 hours. The rothen. Jp website is super high end, the ladies' profiles complete with pro photography and slickly produced videos. For an older gent like me I can relate better to the Rothenburg women, plus, women in their 30's are in their sexual prime, a point some guys here forget when boasting about fucking young 20 somethings.
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[QUOTE=Simplii;2888145]Nope, I'm talking about the Toyoko K phenomenon, homeless young people in Japan.[/QUOTE]So not sure how you would meet them honestly. There are online message boards that do something similar to what your asking. They are kinda expensive for a guy because you have to pay for points and messages cost points.
The tokyo K will fall under the okubo girls or street walkers. Which are doable but you more than likely need very good Japanese to pull it off. The good news is the Japanese police rarely do stings like they do in the US or other countries. The safest thing to do when picking a girl up off the street is just always ask a girl from kissing and a BJ. It's compleltly legal to pay for those. Then once your back in the love hotel she's got a mouth or hand on your junk you ask for full service.
The problem and the reason I say avoid obuku is there are underage girls there. Also it's the one place the police are known to do busts.
If you can find the random homeless girls go for it. Like I said just ask for kissing and blowjob. Cause it's legal.
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[QUOTE=BackInBangkok;2888215] ...(classified as "married" so I guess that means divorced) ....[/QUOTE]The "married" classification in the Japanese water trade has no bearing on the provider's marital status at all. It describes a fuzoku genre targeting customers who are into more mature providers. It also may nurture the fantasy of some who get a kick out of having sex with a married woman. She might be, she might not.
Also, don't assume that you will get two hours with the Rotenburg "wife" for 22K. That's the "bathing fee." The grand total for 2 hours would be at around 80K or more, if Rothenburg would still exist. They changed their name to Y-Etoile, and the 2 hr bathing fee now is 33K https://www.y-etoile.jp/pc/system.php Adjust expectations for the grand total accordingly.
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You're mistaken
[QUOTE=Zhuren;2888333]
if Rothenburg would still exist. They changed their name to Y-Etoile, and the 2 hr bathing fee now is 33K https://www.y-etoile.jp/pc/system.php...[/QUOTE]Completely different women there, rothen dot jp is still active and current, you can see their companions and schedule and I am communicating with some of their ladies at X and LINE. No extra charges at why-shirt. Again, you are mistaken.
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[QUOTE=Zhuren;2888333]The "married" classification in the Japanese water trade has no bearing on the provider's marital status at all. It describes a fuzoku genre targeting customers who are into more mature providers. It also may nurture the fantasy of some who get a kick out of having sex with a married woman. She might be, she might not.
Also, don't assume that you will get two hours with the Rotenburg "wife" for 22K. That's the "bathing fee." The grand total for 2 hours would be at around 80K or more, if Rothenburg would still exist. They changed their name to Y-Etoile, and the 2 hr bathing fee now is 33K https://www.y-etoile.jp/pc/system.php Adjust expectations for the grand total accordingly.[/QUOTE]Not sure where you get your info from or maybe your putting it out wrong. Those are soaplands there is no upcharge besides maybe a gajin tax and the most I have ever seen is at Don Juan where two hours is normally 67 k but forigner s it's 87 k so 20 k tax. Yshirt which is famous is only 5 k.
Also soaplands are a set menu, I have never not gotten my full two hours or had to pay anything extra other than a gajin tax.
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[QUOTE=Simplii;2888145]Nope, I'm talking about the Toyoko K phenomenon, homeless young people in Japan.[/QUOTE]Be careful when going that route because there are a number of underage people in that same bracket including some that won't disclose that information upfront.
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Tokyo
What are all these girls standing on the streets of Tokyo on YouTube are they available prices if so.
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[QUOTE=Scruffman;2888942]What are all these girls standing on the streets of Tokyo on YouTube are they available prices if so.[/QUOTE]Tokyo is a big place. Be more specific.
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Shinjuku MPs
1st of all sorry for my lack of english grammar. I use to be in Tokio 3-4 times a year, trying to find a good he massage. And in Shinjuku this seems to be standard service when entering a MP, damage approx. 7000-9000 yen, quality of each MP very different. Best service (u should take the 80 min option) concerning showering (almost soapland like), high-quality-massage and a quick he is a little spa, 3rd floor, same little street as the DIONE SHINJUKU PREMIUM hair removal, 1 min from the Shinjuku main train station.
My intention was to get more than he. I headed north following the large street for 5-10 min, passed Uniqlo and found next to the Doutor Coffe Shop, 5 Chome-18-10 Shinjuku, an illuminated sign, promising relaxing massage. Again 3rd floor, small hidden lane. The mamasan speaks english, menu is 10.000 for massage he, 15.000 massage FS. I wanted 2 see girls first, 4 on the menu. 1 nice face, but chubby from Thailand, in the early 30's, I choose. The others 40 plus, not hot. Mamasan recognized my additional cash in the wallet (I am stupid, I know) and tried to upsell. 2 girls 30.000, she offered me. I declined, gave her 2 x10.000 and expected to get my 5000 change. But money in hand of mamsan stays there, it's a rule hehe. She called the 3 girls again, asked me 2 choose one and to get a nice treesome. One girl, from Taiwan was my choice, slim, no boobs, she was in a very good mood and smiling. Well, we had a lot of fun, The ladies took me to the shower to wash my main parts, after that a bad massage, a nice BJ, then rubber one for Taiwan. Taiwan really enjoyed the fuck, we chatted with her translating app. Then changing rubber and rubber two went straight into Thailand. Thai girl was more passive but nice boobs. Afterwards some more bad massaging, no rush, and off we go. Spent 45 min there.
-Damage 15.000.
-Chosen Girls no stunners but ok, the others maybe a 3 out of 10.
-Place was very down. Matress on the floor, curtain instead of door, shower as seen in China before, not japanese style.
-WIR? No. There are more MPs to discover.
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[QUOTE=Scruffman;2888942]What are all these girls standing on the streets of Tokyo on YouTube are they available prices if so.[/QUOTE]There aren't as many as there was a while back. Huge crack down over the course of about 7 months. That said, there are still girls to be found around okubo park. You just need some basic japanese and the willingness to initiate the conversation. Be mindful because they have patrols in the area and cameras.
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[QUOTE=Scruffman;2888942]What are all these girls standing on the streets of Tokyo on YouTube are they available prices if so.[/QUOTE]YouTube links like AG suggested would have been useful for us to truly answer your question.
In general, if they are trying to hand stuff out to you in Akihabara, Ikebukuro, Kabukicho, etc they are nothing more than that. Just trying to get you in to the maid cafe, karaoke bar, club, restaurant, etc they work for. If they are just standing around in Kabukicho Okubo Park, Ikebukuro etc looking like hookers, then they're hookers.
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Tokyo a good gateway to Asia.
Recently low cost airlines like JAL's Zipair have very low fares to cross the Pacific to Asia. I once booked Zipair RT LAX to Narita $424. From Tokyo many regional airlines fly to other cities in Asia very cheap.
Most times Zipair's fares are about $100 lower than parent JAL, no food but free wifi. Zip load factor has been consistently 75 to 85 % compared to JAL's 25 to 35 on same routes. They will have to figure out how to make the most profit.
Kabukicho has lots of good food and exciting entertainment 24/7. Dozens of cheap love hotels are within walking distances. Hotel Appa Shinjuku is at the center of everything, or try hotel Premiere Cabin right next to the infamous Okubo Park where some extremely attractive young girls hang out.
I usually stay 2 nights in Shinjuku before flying on to Asia, also a night or more on the way back to make sure no problems with connecting flights.
For quick lay over, consider Thermae Yu (local name Shinjuku Spa La), a large hot bath / sauna about 5 minutes walk East of Okubo Park, open 24/7, 4 stories of baths, spa, sauna, massages, bars, food. It costs 3600 why or $24 for 12 hours, add 2000 why or $14 if stay all night past midnight. It's very nice in cold winter.
The easiest way to Kabukicho Tower from Narita (2. 5 hours) and Haneda (1. 5 hours) is by Tokyu Express Bus right outside the terminal. Hundreds of restaurants, bars, clubs ect, some 24/7, surround the tower, all within walking distances.
Lots of ayce wagyu and sushi deals in the area.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2890656]Recently low cost airlines like JAL's Zipair have very low fares to cross the Pacific to Asia. I once booked Zipair RT LAX to Narita $424. From Tokyo many regional airlines fly to other cities in Asia very cheap.
Most times Zipair's fares are about $100 lower than parent JAL, no food but free wifi. Zip load factor has been consistently 75 to 85 % compared to JAL's 25 to 35 on same routes. They will have to figure out how to make the most profit.
Kabukicho has lots of good food and exciting entertainment 24/7. Dozens of cheap love hotels are within walking distances. Hotel Appa Shinjuku is at the center of everything, or try hotel Premiere Cabin right next to the infamous Okubo Park where some extremely attractive young girls hang out.
I usually stay 2 nights in Shinjuku before flying on to Asia, also a night or more on the way back to make sure no problems with connecting flights.
For quick lay over, consider Thermae Yu (local name Shinjuku Spa La), a large hot bath / sauna about 5 minutes walk East of Okubo Park, open 24/7, 4 stories of baths, spa, sauna, massages, bars, food. It costs 3600 why or $24 for 12 hours, add 2000 why or $14 if stay all night past midnight. It's very nice in cold winter.
The easiest way to Kabukicho Tower from Narita (2. 5 hours) and Haneda (1. 5 hours) is by Tokyu Express Bus right outside the terminal. Hundreds of restaurants, bars, clubs ect, some 24/7, surround the tower, all within walking distances.
Lots of ayce wagyu and sushi deals in the area.[/QUOTE]Any personal recommendations for that area for girls? I'll be there for a week in a month.
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Hotel Premier Cabin Shinjuku
About $75 on line, good Japanese breakfast. It's right next to Okubo Park and the sidewalks around Okubo Hospital. Front door is open with room key cards. I saw a Japanese guy take an obvious street girl with umbrella and water bottle in the elevator with me; reception did not even look up. He immediately embraced and felt her up in the hallway after getting out of the elevator.
On a few narrow streets around Okubo Hospital I have seen a few hot street girls hang out. Any girl standing around with an umbrella, hand bag and water bottle is a potential street girl. One was tall, light skin, long legs, pretty face, so hot, I wanted her, but she was picked up by a Japanese guy after a long talk. They went in the love hotel right behind her. The street action was sparse, night was very cold, I speak zero Japanese, so I did not spend much time outside.
Hotel Appa Shinjuku is right in front of the Kabukicho Tower, in the middle of all actions, restaurants, bars, clubs ect, with the large empty lot where homeless kids hang out, play games with their friends all night. A Japanese-speaking ISG bro said a hot girl hit on him as I was standing right there with him. So take your risks. I know Hotel Appa in Roppongi has no reception control. You can take anyone in bypassing reception. Not sure if Appa Shinjuku is so easy. Walk in, try it out and advise.
Dozens of hotels near Kabukicho Tower have signs out front, renting by the hour or all night, about 1500-2500 why ST to 3500-5000 why all night. They are all within 3 -5 minute walk of Kabukicho Tower and each other.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2890952]Hotel Appa Shinjuku is right in front of the Kabukicho Tower, in the middle of all actions... A Japanese-speaking ISG bro said a hot girl hit on him as I was standing right there with him. So take your risks.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify for others this is APA Hotel Shinjuku-Kabukicho Tower. The hottest of all the Tachinbo girls I saw around Okubo Park was standing right at the front doors of the hotel when I stayed there a few nights last Summer. I wasn't positive she was a hooker until it was too late. By the time I turned around after I walked right by her a Japanese man in his early 60's swooped in to talk to her and off they went away from APA towards Toho Cinemas. I have never seen her again and as recently as 2 weeks ago. As for the hotel you need a card key to enter through the glass doors to the elevator and again for the elevator to your room. The elevators are before reception so imo you'd easily get by hotel staff. There are at times a guy standing at the hotel entrance but unless the girl is a known person to the staff I don't see an issue. It's a busy hotel lobby at times. The downside is the rooms are very tiny and would be tight for 2 people to be there comfortably.
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You might physically bypass the staff at reception, but these days they are probably monitoring the elevators with CCTV. Match that up with your keycard being recorded, there is no privacy any more.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2891080]Just to clarify for others this is APA Hotel Shinjuku-Kabukicho Tower. The hottest of all the Tachinbo girls I saw around Okubo Park was standing right at the front doors of the hotel when I stayed there a few nights last Summer. I wasn't positive she was a hooker until it was too late. By the time I turned around after I walked right by her a Japanese man in his early 60's swooped in to talk to her and off they went away from APA towards Toho Cinemas. I have never seen her again and as recently as 2 weeks ago. As for the hotel you need a card key to enter through the glass doors to the elevator and again for the elevator to your room. The elevators are before reception so imo you'd easily get by hotel staff. There are at times a guy standing at the hotel entrance but unless the girl is a known person to the staff I don't see an issue. It's a busy hotel lobby at times. The downside is the rooms are very tiny and would be tight for 2 people to be there comfortably.[/QUOTE]I'll be at the Prince Hotel Shinjuku. Will search for previous reports to see if they are friendly or not.
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First post, but not new to mongering. Stationed in SoCal and frequently do the AMP and Tijuana circuit. Went to Thailand for a month right as COVID was ramping up. Didn't monger much because of the fear of COVID and the streets were pretty empty, though hotel rooms were very cheap!
I'm putting together another month trip in March and have been looking for a city or two to spend 3 or 4 days in each in addition to going back to Thailand for a "rematch". Since I'm traveling from west coast USA I thought maybe go through Tokyo to split up the otherwise day+ plane trip. Other cities in the running are Jakarta or Phnom Penh but I've yet to research those.
In any case, I went back a ways in this thread (RTFT) to see what Tokyo has to offer. At first it was completely inscrutable, but the more I researched the more activities I found to fill my few days with. I might even stay longer. Who knows.
I'm into the more perverted side of mongering and have found quite a bit of places in Tokyo that cater to that. I'm thinking of staying in Kabukicho, maybe Hotel Appa Shinjuku or Premiere Cabin. So far I've found:
[URL]https://janjan-sugamo.com[/URL] BBBJ from older ladies hell yeah.
[URL]https://trance-t.com[/URL] pegging / prostate / S&M.
[URL]https://www.kannou-sm.com/p_m.html[/URL] S&M.
[URL]https://www.hips-monzetu.com/visitor/[/URL] S&M.
[URL]https://se-den-kiwami-gotanda.eroticguide.tokyo[/URL] BBBJ / rimming / cum play.
[URL]http://www.milkybaby.jp[/URL] pregnant / milk play.
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com[/URL] lists golden showers as an option.
Peep Madonna.
My question is did I miss any other spots with more "unique" offerings?
Thailand seems somewhat light on all that freaky stuff so any other cities I should add for research? I'm going to do a Europe trip in the summer and a South American (Sao Paulo for sure) trip next year so I'm going to keep the March trip SE Asia.
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Robot Girls?
Anyone have any experience with this site? [URL]https://www.robodeli.net/top/schedule/[/URL].
Seems like a "normal" outcall massage / deli place, but the girls are instructed to act like robots and you can program them with a controller. They have tons of kinky options including golden showers, feces painting and licking, S&M, nose clips, vomiting, "fig enemas (2 pieces)" Whatever the hell that is. Very Japanese.
I dont have a ton of experience with these Japanese online sites. But chatting on Line the offerings seem legit and perhaps the girls actually do this stuff and the photos arent horribly photoshopped.
Unless something goes off, Ill give it a try. Let me know if this is likely a ripoff !
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Legit
[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2892014]Anyone have any experience with this site? [URL]https://www.robodeli.net/top/schedule/[/URL].
Seems like a "normal" outcall massage / deli place, but the girls are instructed to act like robots and you can program them with a controller. They have tons of kinky options including golden showers, feces painting and licking, S&M, nose clips, vomiting, "fig enemas (2 pieces)" Whatever the hell that is. Very Japanese.
I dont have a ton of experience with these Japanese online sites. But chatting on Line the offerings seem legit and perhaps the girls actually do this stuff and the photos arent horribly photoshopped.
Unless something goes off, Ill give it a try. Let me know if this is likely a ripoff ![/QUOTE]I have used this place before it's a legit place. I never used that option before.
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Soapland Service
Is BBBJ provided standard in the Yoshiwara places or is covered the norm?
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Milky baby
[QUOTE=CDawg3141;2891947]First post, but not new to mongering. Stationed in SoCal and frequently do the AMP and Tijuana circuit. Went to Thailand for a month right as COVID was ramping up. Didn't monger much because of the fear of COVID and the streets were pretty empty, though hotel rooms were very cheap!
I'm putting together another month trip in March and have been looking for a city or two to spend 3 or 4 days in each in addition to going back to Thailand for a "rematch". Since I'm traveling from west coast USA I thought maybe go through Tokyo to split up the otherwise day+ plane trip. Other cities in the running are Jakarta or Phnom Penh but I've yet to research those.
In any case, I went back a ways in this thread (RTFT) to see what Tokyo has to offer. At first it was completely inscrutable, but the more I researched the more activities I found to fill my few days with. I might even stay longer. Who knows.
I'm into the more perverted side of mongering and have found quite a bit of places in Tokyo that cater to that. I'm thinking of staying in Kabukicho, maybe Hotel Appa Shinjuku or Premiere Cabin. So far I've found:
[URL]https://janjan-sugamo.com[/URL] BBBJ from older ladies hell yeah.
[URL]https://trance-t.com[/URL] pegging / prostate / S&M.
[URL]https://www.kannou-sm.com/p_m.html[/URL] S&M.
[URL]https://www.hips-monzetu.com/visitor/[/URL] S&M.
[URL]https://se-den-kiwami-gotanda.eroticguide.tokyo[/URL] BBBJ / rimming / cum play.
[URL]http://www.milkybaby.jp[/URL] pregnant / milk play.
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com[/URL] lists golden showers as an option.
Peep Madonna.
My question is did I miss any other spots with more "unique" offerings?
Thailand seems somewhat light on all that freaky stuff so any other cities I should add for research? I'm going to do a Europe trip in the summer and a South American (Sao Paulo for sure) trip next year so I'm going to keep the March trip SE Asia.[/QUOTE]The pregnant girls shop interests me, Any reviews?
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Milky Baby reviews
[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2892060]The pregnant girls shop interests me, Any reviews?[/QUOTE]There is a rock it report on the place including a few comments from people who seems to have gone there:
[URL]https://rockitreports.com/review-milky-baby-tokyo-japan/[/URL]#comment-69697.
A search for "milky" or "milkybaby" in the Japan forum brings up some hits too.
Here is a more recent one:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2847241&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2847241.
It seems that there is a lot of work required prior to booking and communication can be difficult. I'm going to start the "paperwork" prior to my trip to hopefully ensure it is seamless.
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Japanese women's opinion of night work.
Over the years, I've met quite a few American women who found themselves living and working in Japan. Of course, many of them are teachers or low paid office ladies who realize that upward mobility for women working within Japanese companies isn't always great. That led to a few of them taking hostess jobs, because Japan puts certain foreigners on a pedestal, and for an even smaller few, it led even further to night work.
Obviously, not everyone is built for this world, but I found that not everyone had a negative take on the world of pay to play. One chick who was about my age said that while she could never do this in the states, doing it in Japan hasn't been bad at all. She also added that when she mentions it to a few select Japanese female friends, they don't even bat an eye because many of them have done it and all of them know someone who has done it. My friend concluded with, the stigma and shame just isn't there. My life would be over if my American friends found out.
This lead me to wonder, does anyone on the board have good enough Japanese where they've inquired about Japanese women's feeling on night work? Do they hate it? Do they hate the men? Do they find themselves having to grin and bear it? Or do they enjoy it from time to time?
Just curious.
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From my conversations
[QUOTE=GaijinRoamer;2892916]Over the years, I've met quite a few American women who found themselves living and working in Japan. Of course, many of them are teachers or low paid office ladies who realize that upward mobility for women working within Japanese companies isn't always great. That led to a few of them taking hostess jobs, because Japan puts certain foreigners on a pedestal, and for an even smaller few, it led even further to night work.
Obviously, not everyone is built for this world, but I found that not everyone had a negative take on the world of pay to play. One chick who was about my age said that while she could never do this in the states, doing it in Japan hasn't been bad at all. She also added that when she mentions it to a few select Japanese female friends, they don't even bat an eye because many of them have done it and all of them know someone who has done it. My friend concluded with, the stigma and shame just isn't there. My life would be over if my American friends found out.
This lead me to wonder, does anyone on the board have good enough Japanese where they've inquired about Japanese women's feeling on night work?.[/QUOTE]Sex work is legal in Japan and the country was not founded by Christians like the USA. Sex is viewed as a physical need and isn't tied to being immoral. Most sex workers in Japan do it as a side job and know it's not a longterm gig. Very transactional from my experience. We always bowed to each other before going our separate ways.
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Not all are completely transactional.
[QUOTE=IcyBlue;2893336]Sex work is legal in Japan and the country was not founded by Christians like the USA. Sex is viewed as a physical need and isn't tied to being immoral. Most sex workers in Japan do it as a side job and know it's not a longterm gig. Very transactional from my experience. We always bowed to each other before going our separate ways.[/QUOTE]So the whole Japanese experience is a your mileage may vary. So I have found the begining is very transactional. After that it's completely different. Yes there are some girls who treat it transactional. Most of my experiences gave been the complete opposite. In fact I have like 4 girls who are on my line who I chat too all the time. Who will clear there schedule to see me. I have never had that happen in any other country than Japan.
If you can get into the high end places you will never feel transactional. They will treat you like a king. You'll forget your paying for it.
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[QUOTE=IcyBlue;2893336]Sex work is legal in Japan and the country was not founded by Christians like the USA. Sex is viewed as a physical need and isn't tied to being immoral. Most sex workers in Japan do it as a side job and know it's not a longterm gig. Very transactional from my experience. We always bowed to each other before going our separate ways.[/QUOTE]I have worked with and dated many ordinary J girls over the years. One thing I have found with many is that if you don't fuck them on the first date, you won't be given a second chance. Maybe they feel insulted that you didn't try?
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Homeless Kids, Kabukicho Tower
Jan 2024 I was walking the streets around Kabukicho Tower, trying out my new 8 K camcorder.
About a dozen kids were sprawling on the ground in the empty lot in front of the tower in the freezing cold all night, playing games and socializing, some slouching and sleeping on mattresses and broken office chairs.
In the afternoon a wingman was waiting for me near this group. The girl in light green jacket, carrying a backpack with a teddy bear, hit on him, but he refused to bite.
Next day I walked back in the same area. Weather was freezing cold. A girl dressed only in a skimpy beige dress with Disney Crocs, slinging a hand bag with a toy, was hanging around, talking to a couple older kids in heavy black flannel jackets, running back and forth, dancing, jumping up and down among them. She acted like a child but I was afraid of objections and could not get close enough to see her face clearly. My videos were shaky due to walking and filming to avoid confrontation, but no one raised an eyebrow. However video and still images later showed her about may be 14 to 15. Suddenly 2 middle-aged men, in grey flannel jackets and knap sacks, aggressively moved in unison, approached her in a quick LE move. The 3 black-jacketed kids quickly vanished.
The 2 men checked her hand bag then stayed and talked to her a long time while taking notes, recording and talking into their phones. She was talking to them freely and quietly, did not seem to be defensive, but was not dancing and jumping like before. A group of people gathered around very close to the girl and the 2 men, like they were participating in the conversation. I was there for about 15 minutes filming the scene but had to walk away in case someone got mad at me. They were still standing there talking.
These 2 lean, strong, clean cut men carrying knap sacks did not look like journalists, NGOs or concerned parents counseling this girl, as they would typically bring women to talk. The quick move in unison by these 2 men to the girl, their curt actions, the way they talked to her with authoritywhile taking notes made me suspect they were undercover cops. They did not talk to any other kids in that area. They talked quickly back and forth in Japanese, so they could not be typical Hong Kong mongers with their knapsacks.
I had to move away from the commotion before someone got mad at me. The people around me did not seem to care about my filming.
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Need of some help
This will be my first time traveling to Japan. I will be there from the 23-25. Quick stop before heading to China.
I have read through the forum and there is a lot of information out there. To be honest I just want to keep it simple so if someone can help me out with the following.
1. Best location in Tokyo to book my hotel that allow ladies to visit.
2. Best site for outcall escorts.
3. Best massage option that allows 4 hands with sex.
If someone can help me with that I will be sure to write a great review of my experience.
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Sorry
Sorry forgot to add where to also find the best street girls.
[QUOTE=TallDarkUsa;2894279]This will be my first time traveling to Japan. I will be there from the 23-25. Quick stop before heading to China.
I have read through the forum and there is a lot of information out there. To be honest I just want to keep it simple so if someone can help me out with the following.
1. Best location in Tokyo to book my hotel that allow ladies to visit.
2. Best site for outcall escorts.
3. Best massage option that allows 4 hands with sex.
If someone can help me with that I will be sure to write a great review of my experience.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TallDarkUsa;2894279]This will be my first time traveling to Japan. I will be there from the 23-25. Quick stop before heading to China.
If someone can help me with that I will be sure to write a great review of my experience.[/QUOTE]People might be more willing to help you if had actually written some of those reviews you promised on other sites.
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[QUOTE=TallDarkUsa;2894279]This will be my first time traveling to Japan. I will be there from the 23-25. Quick stop before heading to China.
1. Best location in Tokyo to book my hotel that allow ladies to visit..[/QUOTE]There are hundreds of hotels in Tokyo, and location has nothing to do with them being girl friendly. Most of the cheaper business hotels have rules about visitors. Do some research on love hotels.
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And?
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2894095]Jan 2024 I was walking the streets around Kabukicho Tower, trying out my new 8 K camcorder.
About a dozen kids were sprawling on the ground in the empty lot in front of the tower in the freezing cold all night, playing games and socializing, some slouching and sleeping on mattresses and broken office chairs.
In the afternoon a wingman was waiting for me near this group. The girl in light green jacket, carrying a backpack with a teddy bear, hit on him, but he refused...[/QUOTE]What is the point of this post? Underage kids have been hooking in Kabukicho since the 80's and undercover cops have been monitoring the situation for almost as long. Are you just telling us that you saw some of the usual going's on? Or is there some further point you are trying to make?
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[QUOTE=GaijinRoamer;2892916]This lead me to wonder, does anyone on the board have good enough Japanese where they've inquired about Japanese women's feeling on night work? Do they hate it? Do they hate the men? Do they find themselves having to grin and bear it? Or do they enjoy it from time to time?
Just curious.[/QUOTE]I have lived in Japan for almost 20 and am fluent in the language. The attitude towards sex work is completely different. A number of the girls I dated over the years I met as escorts, although they stopped charging me for the deed once I started paying for us to go out together. A large percentage of Japanese girls have escorted at one point or another. Regular girls that I have dated were perfectly okay with me using escorts. A fair number of the escorts I used over the years loved what they did, would let me do whatever I wanted to them, and talked freely and openly about that they did with other guys, etc.
Most of this I am completely used to by now, but the thing that still blows me away is that some of these working girls who are total working girls still have guys trying to marry them all the time. For example there was one girl I used to see last year who would let me fuck her NN for ₯10,000 about once a month, and was always telling me about her other guys who would take her on expensive trips and try to get her to marry them. She was in her late 20's and then abruptly quit, so I guess she probably did marry one of them.
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Hard to find similar in the states.
[QUOTE=Xslikx;2894923]I have lived in Japan for almost 20 and am fluent in the language. The attitude towards sex work is completely different. A number of the girls I dated over the years I met as escorts, although they stopped charging me for the deed once I started paying for us to go out together. A large percentage of Japanese girls have escorted at one point or another. Regular girls that I have dated were perfectly okay with me using escorts. A fair number of the escorts I used over the years loved what they did, would let me do whatever I wanted to them, and talked freely and openly about that they did with other guys, etc.
Most of this I am completely used to by now, but the thing that still blows me away is that some of these working girls who are total working girls still have guys trying to marry them all the time. For example there was one girl I used to see last year who would let me fuck her NN for 10,000 about once a month, and was always telling me about her other guys who would take her on expensive trips and try to get her to marry them. She was in her late 20's and then abruptly quit, so I guess she probably did marry one of them.[/QUOTE]It took me years of meeting up with women from Seeking in the states to find a decent amount of ladies who know that hooking up can be as simple as hooking up. To this day, I keep in contact with a few and even see them from time to time. The people that get it, just get it. I've even met my fair share of boyfriends and husbands. Even had a couple of offers to hang out.
It sounds like you've got quite the ideal situation in Japan where the perspective from the ground up is completely different than it is in the US. Too many ladies stateside are titillated by the idea of taking money for their time, but they let the shame and views of other creep in. Those UTR girls are like gold.
Welp, until I make my next trip to Japan. Keep living the dream, brother.
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[QUOTE=Xslikx;2894923]I have lived in Japan for almost 20 and am fluent in the language. The attitude towards sex work is completely different. A number of the girls I dated over the years I met as escorts, although they stopped charging me for the deed once I started paying for us to go out together. A large percentage of Japanese girls have escorted at one point or another. Regular girls that I have dated were perfectly okay with me using escorts. A fair number of the escorts I used over the years loved what they did, would let me do whatever I wanted to them, and talked freely and openly about that they did with other guys, etc.
Most of this I am completely used to by now, but the thing that still blows me away is that some of these working girls who are total working girls still have guys trying to marry them all the time. For example there was one girl I used to see last year who would let me fuck her NN for 10,000 about once a month, and was always telling me about her other guys who would take her on expensive trips and try to get her to marry them. She was in her late 20's and then abruptly quit, so I guess she probably did marry one of them.[/QUOTE]The first part of what you said is so untrue, I had to make an account to call you out. Unless you lived in Shinjuku and / or Shibuya for 20 years, I find it hard to believe that you came to that conclusion. The people involved in that type of work are huge exceptions to normal Japanese society. That type of work is greatly looked down upon and if caught, you'll pretty much be an outcast to your family. Normal girls that you've dated being perfectly ok with you using escorts is extremely unusual. I can see that being something you've agreed upon if you're married (for culture reasons), but if she's just a GF. Even a wife, that's extremely rare. Normally the GF or wife would feel as though she's not satisfying enough and you'll never be looked at the same way again.
People in Japan are also very two faced. Be careful with that. A large majority of escorts are just in it for the money, granted they give quality service, but the moment you leave, they'll be glad you're gone. I personally know a few escorts as well. Trust me, they talk a lot of shit when their clients aren't around.
The "large sums of money" and "marying" bit is par to the course. Especially at host clubs.
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Japanese Women
Japanese women don't have the ugly cynicism like American women. They are mostly open, honest, helpful, innocent, trusting, giving, like children. They appear to be well-treated and well-protected by their spouses, families and society. I believe they expect the same trust back from men.
Married women may forgive a few infractions for the sake of keeping family together, but GFs would quickly get jealous and dump BFs if they cheat, even with escorts.
Japanese are conservative and still holding on to a lot of their traditional values. Their 2 faces are not as bad and destructive as Westerners.
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Best session in Tokyo so far. WOW! Read up!
Ok guys, I'm now on my 2nd visit to Tokyo. I've done the usual circuit in the past, and I have been quite happy with the experience (for the most part).
I came across Japan Fun Club a while back while browsing around. I think I mentioned it in a post before. But they were not open for business at the time. The website just had a registration form, so I gave my email, not expecting to really hear anything back.
I got an email from a certain Alice a couple of weeks ago, telling me that JFC (which is what they seem to want to be known as) finally got all of its permits and licenses, and that they were officially open for business. They only have 2 girls to choose from (which they call "models") . But they told me it's about quality, not quantity. Unlike other agencies, there weren't any additional photos of the girls. Just pretty much a head shot. No poses in lingerie etc. They seemed to be classy, so I decided to give it a go.
But the whole booking was completely different. Felt quite sophisticated actually!
I browsed the profile of Marina first. Her profile said she was a tall, toned, Japanese diva with a naughty side! (See [URL]https://japanfunclub.com/team/marina/[/URL]). There is a button to book an appointment with her. When I clicked, I saw that she was also into threesomes. All combos (MF / MM / FF)! Damn! All sessions seemed to be 2 hours, which is actually my favorite amount of time anyway. Enough time to not feel rushed, and room for a second pop if I can handle it. They seem to break down the pricing by day or night time slots, and threesomes are obviously more. Alas, I was by myself, so no 3 somes for me just yet.
I picked an incall session, and I was presented with a calendar showing Marina's availability. Easy enough. I chose the day and time. Next step was some personal info about me, and a button to pay a deposit! What? I got a little weirded out by this, so I decided to poke around the website a little more. Turns out, they secure appointments with a credit card deposit first. There is no way around it. I am single, so I figured it's ok see what happens. No wife or girlfriend to worry about. I went back to Marina's profile and got to the payment page again. I entered my name, phone, email and clicked to pay the $100 deposit. Next, my credit card info (still apprehensive, but I went ahead with it).
Payment went through, and I received a confirmation email shortly after. Which was reassuring. The email contained additional info about the appointment. Where to meet (instructions to a love hotel in Shinjuku), and I was also instructed to bring the remainder of the payment in cash (in Yen) to give to Marina at the start of the appointment. I was interested to see how this charge would show up on my credit card. A day later, it showed up as Japan tours. Hey so I went to Tokyo, and I have a credit card charge from Japan TOURS. Clever!
I looked for any other dubious credit card charges, but nothing else happened. I also received an email reminder 2 days before the appointment, a third reminder 2 hours before, and an SMS message 1 hour before the appointment!! I guess that why they wanted my email and phone number (well, the email is needed to find out where to meet). I felt at ease at that point!
I showed up on the day and time of the appointment to the hotel. In the lobby was a tall, toned chick. A friggin' bombshell. I was hard already. I could barely contain my excitement. She greeted me, and had a huge smile. Spoke English better than me actually! She told me that I had to book the room. So that cost me around 7,400 Yen extra, but the email instructions said that already, so I was expecting it. I chose the room, paid at the counter (they accept cash and credit card. But I preferred to pay cash at that point). We then went to the room.
Room was super nice. Very clean, and spacious. Marina dimmed the lights, set up the AC to a comfortable setting, and sat me down for a while. We spoke for about 15 minutes. She has an amazing personality. She's putting herself through college (they all say that, right) . But in her case, I believe it. She seemed very educated, and it's actually quite rare to see a Japanese chick be so outgoing and so fluent in English. She didn't ask me any personal questions, which I appreciated.
She then asked me to follow her to the shower. We stripped, and she folded her clothes every so neatly (I love the Japanese! I followed suit, to be polite. We showered together, and I was amazed by how many tattoos she has. Looks amazing on her!
We then headed to the bedroom.
OH. My. God.
Did I say that this chick was a diva? I went down on her, licking front to back, back to front. I licked her in every position that I could, and she ended up riding on my face as I was lapping it all up. Amazing stuff. We 69 ed for a while, and I was afraid that I'd pop, so I laid her on her back, put the plastic on, and proceeded with an intense 15 minutes of pounding in every imaginable position. Doggie, wheelbarrow, cow girl, reverse cow girl. Until I couldn't anymore. I pulled out just in time, removed the plastic, and stoked myself to finish on her face. I came all over her lips and pretty face, and rolled onto my back with the biggest smile of my life.
I have been with many before, but never like this.
We showered again, and by the time we were done, we only had 30 minutes left. We chatted some more, and since all good things must end, we kissed goodbye on the cheek, and went our separate ways. I will definitely see her again.
A day later, I received another email from the company (automated), asking if I was satisfied with Marina. Say wha? This is customer service alright! I have never ever seen an agency run like this. If they continue like this, I have no doubt that they will overtake a lot of the others. I obviously gave glowing reviews. I'm not sure how this experience could have been improved to be honest.
I continued to monitor my credit card for days after, and no funny business.
Japan Fun Club is legit.
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Nice post
[QUOTE=KevinX69;2897062]Ok guys, I'm now on my 2nd visit to Tokyo. I've done the usual circuit in the past, and I have been quite happy with the experience (for the most part).
I came across Japan Fun Club a while back while browsing around. I think I mentioned it in a post before. But they were not open for business at the time. The website just had a registration form, so I gave my email, not expecting to really hear anything back.
Japan Fun Club is legit.[/QUOTE]Very informative post, all essential details included. Thanks bro.
Planning on visiting Tokyo after many years and this type of intel sure helps.
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Why should anyone use a website that.
1. Takes deposits.
2. Requires Credit Card usage
3. Lists prices in USD.
4. More expensive than most alternatives.
There is literally no reason to use that website with all the alternative options available in Tokyo. I'm sorry I am just tired of the overpriced places just trying to gouge tourists.
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[QUOTE=QCryptic;2897637]Why should anyone use a website that.
1. Takes deposits.
2. Requires Credit Card usage
3. Lists prices in USD.
4. More expensive than most alternatives.
There is literally no reason to use that website with all the alternative options available in Tokyo. I'm sorry I am just tired of the overpriced places just trying to gouge tourists.[/QUOTE]They charge that much because tourist don't know any better and are willing to pay. Tourists have it tough l. There's no doubt about that.
The best alternative in my opinion is to learn Japanese and papakatsu using apps like Twitter and Line, but even still, you have to hope the girl is ok with engaging with foreigners.
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[QUOTE=QCryptic;2897637]Why should anyone use a website that.
1. Takes deposits.
2. Requires Credit Card usage
3. Lists prices in USD.
4. More expensive than most alternatives.
There is literally no reason to use that website with all the alternative options available in Tokyo. I'm sorry I am just tired of the overpriced places just trying to gouge tourists.[/QUOTE]What are you personal favorite 2 sites in Tokyo that accept foreigners?
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The Pink Salon (BJ club) Scene 2024 - Blow Job Alley
Just back from several days last week in Shinjuku and I'm here to report that the BJ scene appears to be dead for Gaijen in Shinjuku. (Lots of other options for gaijen) This forum mentions "Peep Madonna in the heart of Kabukicho, across from the Godzilla head, at Kabukicho Tower. Strip show followed by HJ. One of the cheapest handjobs in all of Tokyo. " This doesn't appear to exist anymore. No establishment by that name anywhere on Google maps in Shinjuku. No establishment similar in the basement of the Kabukicho Tower.
Previously there was mention of "Happy Hirano", a pink salon (BJ parlour) "3 F Ashibe-Kaikan, 2-36-3 Kabukicho, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo, 160-0021" However there is no such place at that address anymore.
I asked around Shinjuku, but could find no BJ bars or action other than what one gets by booking a girl from one of the shops for a health deli takeout option at a much higher than expected price.
However. Jay Jay is still going strong in Sugano, This location is easily reached from the Sugano Station on the JR line. I visited twice. It's a 5 minute walk from the station and fairly easy to find on the right hand side of the street with a flashing pick sign out from indicating JPY 3,000 as the price. Down one level to the basement by steps and into the dark room with 12 high backed cubicals, actually more like rectangular benches with 1. 3 meter high backs. I arrived around 5:00 pm and there seemed to be 3 or 4 other customers, both Japanese and foreigners, I paid first, 4000 (including the 1,000 gaijen tax), was lead to a dark cubical and sat on low cushioned bench covered by a black towel.
The first time I didn't request any particular lady and after sometime the manager directed a woman in a long black dress to me. It was dark and difficult to see her face, but her body looked slim. She said Hello, and gestured for me to pull down my pants while keeping my shoes on (definitely keep those shoe on. The floor looks like some spulg was slowly drying). She then pulled her dress down to her waist and removed her panties while keeping the dress bunched around her narrow waist. She took a sanitised cloth and cleaned my equipment and gave me another antiseptic cloth to wipe my hands and then she crouched across the couch and got to work. It was an excellent blowjob. While she had her head in my crotch my hands were free to roam her body, which I did, discovering a very thin frame with small tits and a large lightly haired cnut which was surprisingly wet. I fingered her quite aggressively and she emitted small gasps, I took my wet fingers and massaged her asshole, eventually penetrating it with some force. My other hand squeezed her tiny soft tits and pulled her large mommy nipples. She was surprisingly accommodating to all of this.
4,000 gives you 30 minutes, at 20 minutes she had some alarm which went off and she indicated that time was almost up. Her skill was sufficient and expert for me to not need extra time. Afterwards she cleaned up, said thank you and left.
I returned a day later around 13:00 and asked the manager for different woman with bigger tits. This was very similar to the first, but she had much larger tits with large nipples which were good for stretching. She neglected to remove her panties, so once she began, I reached around and simply pulled them off her, sliding them down to her feet and off. She assisted without complaint. Otherwise the session was much the same as the first.
Overall, it was a unique experience. I had expected to be slightly repulsed by a 40 yr woman sucking me off, but it was actually a turn-on. Must be somewhat humiliating for the women to be doing this. Its dark and their appearance is difficult to see very well, which makes them almost anonymous, like getting shoeshine while you read a paper. The woman, judging by from their saggy breasts were all MILFs, but otherwise had trim bodies and surprisingly tight pussies. The darkness and the thrill of having a woman's hot mouth on your cock in a dark place with other men being quietly serviced at the same time was a turn on. And, the woman, like so many Japanese girls, were extremely service oriented, obedient, and submissive to my perhaps callous treatment of their tits and cnuts. Something totally different from anything I have ever done before. Totally recommend the experience and I will be back.
Upon leaving, I noticed two other shops directly across the street. One with a price of 5,000 accepts gaijen, the other seemed closed.
Attached are photos of location of the BJ bars in Sugano.
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Tokyo Sex Scene Options that were not found
I'm not a deeply experienced Tokyo monger, but had a few comments to make about what I could not find there:
1. No-pan cafes or restaurants. No-pan is short for no-panty and refers to a number of coffee shops and restaurants that feature mirrored floors and waitress with short skirts and no panties. This sounded like a great place to get my morning coffee! Or lunch, but sadly, near as I can tell this sort of establishment has gone the way of the post-war teenage Okinawa hookers. I was crushed, simply heart-broken.
2. Gaijen BJ or Strip clubs in Shinjuku. While these exist for Japanese men, as far as I could determine, none of this is available anymore for westerners in Shinjuku, although BJ bars (Pink Salons) are found elsewhere, such as Jay Jay's in Suguro, but that's 40 minutes away. Peep Madonna is history.
3. Okubu streetwalkers. I checked multiple times on visits in December, January, and mid-February, around the park and hospital, but this seems to be dead with lots of law enforcement in the area. Thanks for all the You-tube videos and newspaper reporting, guys! I'm sure they have gone somewhere, but I saw none of them in the area.
Perhaps a senior on this forum can correct me as to the current state of these things?
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ROBOT GIRL ESCORT SERVICE. Shinjiku
Robot Girl Escort Service.
Last week, I tried a session with a girl from [URL]robodeli.net[/URL]. I connected with the business via their Line account, which you can connect to from their website. Once connected, I was able to have several long chats with the manager to help me understand the options and girls. They were very helpful and patient with my questions. I was interested in A-levels so they identified the four girls on the schedule who would accommodate that, commenting that Lime was the most popular, Anzu / Apricot was the slimmest. However, I selected Hiyori as some of the customer comments indicated that she was nicely perverted and did vomiting deep throat BBBJs, which is something I have wanted to try since seeing Max Hardcore do it so many times with his little wh0 res.
Summary:
Name: Hiyori (21 per her profile, but probably more like 24-25, still youngish).
* Face: 8/10 - totally fine, girl next-door style.
* Body: 8/10 - nice Cee-sized tits, bit full in the stomach, but not chubby, ass was soft and untoned.
* Skill: 8/10 - good, but not great BBBJ.
* Attitude: 10/10.
* Repeat: I recommend her, but I'll probably try another girl.
* Damages: 21,000 course fee (for 60 minutes of basic services including touching, fingering, BBBJ)+ 10,000 for anal, + 5,000 for deep throat, +20,000 for vomiting during BJ, +2,000 for nomination fee (picking the girl you want) + 2,000 for the smartphone controller + more for some extras. It was a lot, but she fulfilled some long-held fantasies for me.
Via Line I selected Hiyori and ask for her to come to my 4 star hotel in Shinjuku on a Tuesday at 15:00. The agency asked for my name, hotel, but not room number and suggested that I meet the girl downstairs at a near by restaurant then escort her up and past the front desk, which was simple because I found a back lift to a lower floor that allowed us to skip the reception level. Even so, I'm certain the hotel wouldn't have said a word.
She arrived a few minutes late and the agency said she was waiting, so I collected her and brought her up to my room. She gave me the robot controller.
So, the gimmick of this site is that the girls will act like mute robots and you can command them by using a smartphone app (multiple languages) that connects to an earpod the girl wears. The controller has basic commands which when touched are vocalised in the the girls ear piece. Commands are simple. Turn right, open mouth, spread legs, jump, lie on back, close eyes. I decided to try that, but it wasn't really worth the money and was just as easy to just point and move the girl as I wished.
As I was keen to experience the deep throat vomit, I'the purchased 750 ML of cows milk (I previously confirmed with the agency that the girl would drink this and didn't require something like soy milk). After that we proceeded to the walk-in shower room where she washed me and herself. Some DFK, but she wasn't very into this, or very good at it, so I pushed her to her knees on the shower floor and motioned for her to suck my cock. She started a bit gingerly, so I had to straddle her shoulder as she knelt, grabbed her head with both hands, one on her chin to hold her mouth open wide, and began to face fuck her with increasing depth. Several times she gagged and copious amounts of spit came up and on to my cock before she finally took it deep and triggered a strong gag followed by her puking hot white vomit on my cock and her tits and face. I dragged my dick through all that and then wiped it across her face and into her black hair. She was a fucking mess! Ha ha. Face, tits, and hair covered with her own spit and vomit (no smell since the milk was still fresh). She was more than a little surprised and dazed but took it all like a champ.
We showered and she laughed when she saw her face with smeared and running makeup from the sloppy vomit blowjob. Returned to the bed where I fingered her pussy and asshole without complaint. I managed to get two fingers in her ass, which is usually enough, but when I tried to enter, it just would not go. And I was rockhard pushing with a stiff pole. I'm not certain but perhaps she was clinching to make it difficult. At this point, she offered some other options, which if you are interested in, please DM me as I don't want to detail this publicly.
We completed the session and then she broke character from robot-girl to chat for 10-15 minutes. She is a very nice young genuine girl who has a main job in child care. She has worked in this job for 2 years and enjoys the money and the sometimes kinky sex. Says she's had a number of golden showers but nothing more extreme.
Conclusions:
* The agency was very professional and knowledgeable. The photos appear to be real and there was no bait-and-switch.
* The girl was not the typically unreliable and difficult Thai hooker. She was a well-educated, responsible, and professional service provider, the likes of which I have only really met in Japan.
* Japan is expensive, the games around full sex are annoying, the inability to have a fishbowl or bargirl. Like opportunity to actually see and meet the girls beforehand is disappointing, and the girls are often older and chubbier than I get elsewhere.
* but. The service quality is excellent, the girls are honest, very compliant, are well-mannered, and the interactions with agents generally very professional, perhaps because it's all very legal.
* That said, I'the never make Japan my primary mongering destination for the reasons above, but it does offer some unusual options with women who are educated and nice enough that you'the not be embarrassed if your friends met them. As your junior work collegue.
Attached find some images: Hiyori profile and some services she offers, her flat ass and the milk vomit in the shower, a full list of services and prices.
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Well, I'm just posting my experience
I thought the same too, but I figured I'd give it a try. For a 2-hour session, all inclusive, I didn't think the price was bad at all. Do the math. Other sites I've used are cheaper up front, but they they nickel-and-dime you for extras. I've always hated that. You get in the mood, and try to do something (sometimes just kissing or DATY), and they go "no, not included". Major buzzkill for me. So in my opinion, the price was never an issue given all the things that's included. See here: [URL]https://japanfunclub.com/team/marina/[/URL].
The credit card deposit is just a small deposit. The rest was paid in cash, in Yen, directly to the provider. I think it's done this way to avoid back and forth. The process was hyper efficient. I never spoke to anyone, and when I showed up, my date was there waiting for me. I found it to be convenient.
The price is in USD, but only a small deposit is payable to book the appointment. The rest is in cash. The amount was clearly stated in the email confirmation I got. Again, I took no issue with it.
Nope, it's not more expensive than the alternatives, given that it's "all inclusive" and for 2 hours. Need to compare apples to apples.
[QUOTE=QCryptic;2897637]Why should anyone use a website that.
1. Takes deposits.
2. Requires Credit Card usage
3. Lists prices in USD.
4. More expensive than most alternatives.
There is literally no reason to use that website with all the alternative options available in Tokyo. I'm sorry I am just tired of the overpriced places just trying to gouge tourists.[/QUOTE]
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It's actually cheaper.
I'm not a resident of Tokyo, but I'm definitely a seasoned traveler. I research well before committing.
I've used a number of agencies in Tokyo, and I have to say that the value for money I got at Japan Fun Club was unbeatable. Sessions are 2 hours long vs. 1 HR or 90 minutes elsewhere. It was also "all inclusive" - I mean ALL inclusive. That's what I paid for in the end. To be able to relax, and not have a girl tell me she won't do this or that. Everything I asked for was a "YES". In other places, I've been asked to pony up extra cash for stuff, which kills the mood for me.
Well worth the cost, given the experience that I had. I went back again to try Umi, and I'll post about it later.
[QUOTE=Gene0;2897689]They charge that much because tourist don't know any better and are willing to pay. Tourists have it tough l. There's no doubt about that.
The best alternative in my opinion is to learn Japanese and papakatsu using apps like Twitter and Line, but even still, you have to hope the girl is ok with engaging with foreigners.[/QUOTE]
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Clear winners for me
1) [URL]JapanFunClub.com[/URL] - They're new. Only got 2 models. I tried them both, and I've never had an experience like this in all the years. ALL inclusive fun. Unbeatable value for money. Absolutely wild.
2) THC. Lots of chicks to choose from. Tried a couple. Nice time, but not a wild time. Shy girls, and "a la carte" - which can add up. NOT all inclusive. I kept it simple with them.
[QUOTE=NRandom940;2897692]What are you personal favorite 2 sites in Tokyo that accept foreigners?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KevinX69;2897808]I'm not a resident of Tokyo, but I'm definitely a seasoned traveler. I research well before committing.
I've used a number of agencies in Tokyo, and I have to say that the value for money I got at Japan Fun Club was unbeatable. Sessions are 2 hours long vs. 1 HR or 90 minutes elsewhere. It was also "all inclusive" - I mean ALL inclusive. That's what I paid for in the end. To be able to relax, and not have a girl tell me she won't do this or that. Everything I asked for was a "YES". In other places, I've been asked to pony up extra cash for stuff, which kills the mood for me.
Well worth the cost, given the experience that I had. I went back again to try Umi, and I'll post about it later.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you enjoyed it that much. I'll check them out one day. I mostly stick to trusted Okubo girls I've met on Twitter. You can get a good deals from them too. One date I had only charged 30 k (roughly $200) and before we did the deed, she gave me a mini tour of the area and introduced me to some of her friends. The connections you make that way can lead to finding incredible girls.
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It is way more expensive
[QUOTE=KevinX69;2897807]I thought the same too, but I figured I'd give it a try. For a 2-hour session, all inclusive, I didn't think the price was bad at all. Do the math. Other sites I've used are cheaper up front, but they they nickel-and-dime you for extras. I've always hated that. You get in the mood, and try to do something (sometimes just kissing or DATY), and they go "no, not included". Major buzzkill for me. So in my opinion, the price was never an issue given all the things that's included. See here: [URL]https://japanfunclub.com/team/marina/[/URL].
The credit card deposit is just a small deposit. The rest was paid in cash, in Yen, directly to the provider. I think it's done this way to avoid back and forth. The process was hyper efficient. I never spoke to anyone, and when I showed up, my date was there waiting for me. I found it to be convenient.
The price is in USD, but only a small deposit is payable to book the appointment. The rest is in cash. The amount was clearly stated in the email confirmation I got. Again, I took no issue with it.
Nope, it's not more expensive than the alternatives, given that it's "all inclusive" and for 2 hours. Need to compare apples to apples.[/QUOTE]So no that place is not way more cheaper. There cheapest price is 375 US which equates to about 55 k yen. I can find a ton of soaplands in Yoshiwara for that amount. I garuntee offer way better experience than that. Yes I have posted the website I have used to find them before. Also prepaying yeah not going to do that. Also a bunch of delivery health places that have comparable costs. Personnely I think you two got paid for these reviews. Why go with this place with so many other options. They have all of two options. Also how do you both magically find this brand new club at the same time. Paying deposit in US then the remainder in Yen is highly suspect to me.
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You need to look more
[QUOTE=KevinX69;2897808]I'm not a resident of Tokyo, but I'm definitely a seasoned traveler. I research well before committing.
I've used a number of agencies in Tokyo, and I have to say that the value for money I got at Japan Fun Club was unbeatable. Sessions are 2 hours long vs. 1 HR or 90 minutes elsewhere. It was also "all inclusive" - I mean ALL inclusive. That's what I paid for in the end. To be able to relax, and not have a girl tell me she won't do this or that. Everything I asked for was a "YES". In other places, I've been asked to pony up extra cash for stuff, which kills the mood for me.
Well worth the cost, given the experience that I had. I went back again to try Umi, and I'll post about it later.[/QUOTE]If you claim that this place is the best option out there and unbeatable then you are a very sheltered person. You did not do your reseach very well. I can show you girls on Twitter who fuck like porn stars. That cost the same if not a little more than what this places costs. Sorry any place or person in Japan who advertises there price in dollars is suspect to me. I mean they have all of two girls as choices and over here any shop thats is good is going to have a roster of at least 15+. A key indicator in Japan on shops worth is the roster of girls. Unlike other places a higher number of girls is better because that means the girls want to work there because they can earn money there. They also have to keep up good services because if they get complaints the shops will drop tthem. Cause if it's a good shop there are always girls who want to work there. There are girls on Twitter and hime who brag about learning the trade at certain shops because of that shops status.
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[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2897715]Robot Girl Escort Service.
Last week, I tried a session with a girl from [URL]robodeli.net[/URL]. I connected with the business via their Line account, which you can connect to from their website. Once connected, I was able to have several long chats with the manager to help me understand the options and girls. They were very helpful and patient with my questions. I was interested in A-levels so they identified the four girls on the schedule who would accommodate that, commenting that Lime was the most popular, Anzu / Apricot was the slimmest. However, I selected Hiyori as some of the customer comments indicated that she was nicely perverted and did vomiting deep throat BBBJs, which is something I have wanted to try since seeing Max Hardcore do it so many times with his little wh0 res.
<snip>[/QUOTE]What a comprehensive review! I'll most likely going to give this place a shot on my trip next week. Their menu of offerings is unreal.
If you don't mind sharing, what hotel did you stay at? I'm looking for a girl friendly one in the Shinjuku area, or are they all girl friendly?
As far as Peep Madonna goes, is this it? [URL]https://nozoki-madonna.net/top[/URL].
I read that Happy Hinomaru has been closed since COVID.
I also plan on hitting up JanJan (Jay Jay).
Cheers!
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I see some massage parlors around Shinjuku for around 7,000 for a massage. Thai etc.
Going to assume that extras are available there?
What sort of rate / tip for HJ? And then maybe FS places?
Tried to search the forum however couldn't really find any info.
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[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2897709]Just back from several days last week in Shinjuku and I'm here to report that the BJ scene appears to be dead for Gaijen in Shinjuku. (Lots of other options for gaijen) This forum mentions "Peep Madonna in the heart of Kabukicho, across from the Godzilla head, at Kabukicho Tower. Strip show followed by HJ. One of the cheapest handjobs in all of Tokyo. " This doesn't appear to exist anymore. No establishment by that name anywhere on Google maps in Shinjuku. No establishment similar in the basement of the Kabukicho Tower.
Previously there was mention of "Happy Hirano", a pink salon (BJ parlour) "3 F Ashibe-Kaikan, 2-36-3 Kabukicho, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo, 160-0021" However there is no such place at that address anymore.
I asked around Shinjuku, but could find no BJ bars or action other than what one gets by booking a girl from one of the shops for a health deli takeout option at a much higher than expected price.
However. Jay Jay is still going strong in Sugano, This location is easily reached from the Sugano Station on the JR line. I visited twice. It's a 5 minute walk from the station and fairly easy to find on the right hand side of the street with a flashing pick sign out from indicating JPY 3,000 as the price. Down one level to the basement by steps and into the dark room with 12 high backed cubicals, actually more like rectangular benches with 1. 3 meter high backs. I arrived around 5:00 pm and there seemed to be 3 or 4 other customers, both Japanese and foreigners, I paid first, 4000 (including the 1,000 gaijen tax), was lead to a dark cubical and sat on low cushioned bench covered by a black towel.
The first time I didn't request any particular lady and after sometime the manager directed a woman in a long black dress to me. It was dark and difficult to see her face, but her body looked slim. She said Hello, and gestured for me to pull down my pants while keeping my shoes on (definitely keep those shoe on. The floor looks like some spulg was slowly drying). She then pulled her dress down to her waist and removed her panties while keeping the dress bunched around her narrow waist. She took a sanitised cloth and cleaned my equipment and gave me another antiseptic cloth to wipe my hands and then she crouched across the couch and got to work. It was an excellent blowjob. While she had her head in my crotch my hands were free to roam her body, which I did, discovering a very thin frame with small tits and a large lightly haired cnut which was surprisingly wet. I fingered her quite aggressively and she emitted small gasps, I took my wet fingers and massaged her asshole, eventually penetrating it with some force. My other hand squeezed her tiny soft tits and pulled her large mommy nipples. She was surprisingly accommodating to all of this.
4,000 gives you 30 minutes, at 20 minutes she had some alarm which went off and she indicated that time was almost up. Her skill was sufficient and expert for me to not need extra time. Afterwards she cleaned up, said thank you and left.
I returned a day later around 13:00 and asked the manager for different woman with bigger tits. This was very similar to the first, but she had much larger tits with large nipples which were good for stretching. She neglected to remove her panties, so once she began, I reached around and simply pulled them off her, sliding them down to her feet and off. She assisted without complaint. Otherwise the session was much the same as the first.
Overall, it was a unique experience. I had expected to be slightly repulsed by a 40 yr woman sucking me off, but it was actually a turn-on. Must be somewhat humiliating for the women to be doing this. Its dark and their appearance is difficult to see very well, which makes them almost anonymous, like getting shoeshine while you read a paper. The woman, judging by from their saggy breasts were all MILFs, but otherwise had trim bodies and surprisingly tight pussies. The darkness and the thrill of having a woman's hot mouth on your cock in a dark place with other men being quietly serviced at the same time was a turn on. And, the woman, like so many Japanese girls, were extremely service oriented, obedient, and submissive to my perhaps callous treatment of their tits and cnuts. Something totally different from anything I have ever done before. Totally recommend the experience and I will be back.
Upon leaving, I noticed two other shops directly across the street. One with a price of 5,000 accepts gaijen, the other seemed closed.
Attached are photos of location of the BJ bars in Sugano.[/QUOTE]I've said multiple times that Jan Jan gets a bad rep unfairly in my personal opinion. And I've had a girl in her 20's service me here before so they aren't all milfs.
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[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2898149]I see some massage parlors around Shinjuku for around 7,000 for a massage. Thai etc.
Going to assume that extras are available there?
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What sort of rate / tip for HJ? And then maybe FS places?
Tried to search the forum however couldn't really find any info.[/QUOTE]All the Thai places are hit or miss you'll either get a really good massage and no happy ending or shitty massage and good happy ending. Personnelly for the price just ride the extra 30 minutes via train and go to Yoshiwara and visit the soaplands you'll get a better massage and experience plus price is about the same. Are you looking for the massage or the happy ending. I haven't actually tried any of the Thai places. I avoid the soaplands there in shinjuku because they are over priced.
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[QUOTE=KevinX69;2897810]1) [URL]JapanFunClub.com[/URL] - They're new. Only got 2 models. I tried them both, and I've never had an experience like this in all the years. ALL inclusive fun. Unbeatable value for money. Absolutely wild.
2) THC. Lots of chicks to choose from. Tried a couple. Nice time, but not a wild time. Shy girls, and "a la carte" - which can add up. NOT all inclusive. I kept it simple with them.[/QUOTE]Why is [URL]japanfunclub.com[/URL] hosted through Lansing, Michigan?
They have been on the web for around a year but still only two girls?
Paying a booking deposit is usually a scam?
You first wrote about them mid last year, please provide full reports if you have used them.
If you have not used them why are you so enthusiastic about them?
Teltel.
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[QUOTE=David032;2898198]All the Thai places are hit or miss you'll either get a really good massage and no happy ending or shitty massage and good happy ending. Personnelly for the price just ride the extra 30 minutes via train and go to Yoshiwara and visit the soaplands you'll get a better massage and experience plus price is about the same. Are you looking for the massage or the happy ending. I haven't actually tried any of the Thai places. I avoid the soaplands there in shinjuku because they are over priced.[/QUOTE]Looking for some sort of massage, and HJ. Would love a FS however I haven't read up how often these girls get tested / how risky it might be here, as it's my first time mongering in Japan. Not in a situation where I can pick up anything.
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[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2898250]Looking for some sort of massage, and HJ. Would love a FS however I haven't read up how often these girls get tested / how risky it might be here, as it's my first time mongering in Japan. Not in a situation where I can pick up anything.[/QUOTE]STDs are not a huge problem here most girls are tested regular and generally use condoms is pretty prevelvant. If your looking for massage hand job I would try one if the delivery health options. Asianmistque, THC they all give you a guaranteed BJ. They will all do massage if asked. Try this as well to it's an English version a Japanese eacort site. [URL]https://chn.cityheaven.net/[/URL].
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[QUOTE=CDawg3141;2897962]What a comprehensive review! I'll most likely going to give this place a shot on my trip next week. Their menu of offerings is unreal.
If you don't mind sharing, what hotel did you stay at? I'm looking for a girl friendly one in the Shinjuku area, or are they all girl friendly?
As far as Peep Madonna goes, is this it? [URL]https://nozoki-madonna.net/top[/URL].
I read that Happy Hinomaru has been closed since COVID.
I also plan on hitting up JanJan (Jay Jay).
Cheers![/QUOTE]I stayed at hotel groove. Not sure if they are girl-friendly per se. We just bith got in the lift with some other guests and went up. No one said a thing.
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Thanks! Will check it out.
Cheers bro. Appreciate the tip. I'm not on Twitter. I'll sign up and see.
[QUOTE=Gene0;2897914]I'm glad you enjoyed it that much. I'll check them out one day. I mostly stick to trusted Okubo girls I've met on Twitter. You can get a good deals from them too. One date I had only charged 30 k (roughly $200) and before we did the deed, she gave me a mini tour of the area and introduced me to some of her friends. The connections you make that way can lead to finding incredible girls.[/QUOTE]
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Just my experience bro
Brothels or swingers clubs are totally not my thing. I have this paranoia that one of these places will get busted one day when I have my pants down. I prefer to be solo, in a hotel room.
It's not my first time mongering by any stretch. I travel a lot, so I've been places and tasted the local talent whenever I can.
$375 for 2 hours = $190/ HR. I've paid double or triple that in other places for FS, BBBJ, COF / CIM.
Maybe it's a matter of preference then, so let's leave it at that. Was just sharing what I could, so people can make up their own minds. To each his own.
I agree with you. The prepaying was weird. But I've done that in Amsterdam before. Paid $1,000 for a 2-hour session with real model-quality chicks. And you had to book via credit card there too. I guess I'm ok with it, because I'm single. No wife or GF to worry about peeking into my bank statements.
But to set the record straight, I did not get paid bro. What would be lame as shit.
I have gone to other options. Saw a number of girls from THC. But everything was an add-on. No FS to boot. Buzzkill for me.
I was chatting to Marina from JFC, and she told me they just launched. Maybe they'll add new girls after. Why wouldn't they?
Good point about the USD pricing. I didn't think anything of it actually. I checked again. And what do you know, it's now in Yen, LOL. I don't know, maybe they're sorting things out.
[QUOTE=David032;2897943]So no that place is not way more cheaper. There cheapest price is 375 US which equates to about 55 k yen. I can find a ton of soaplands in Yoshiwara for that amount. I garuntee offer way better experience than that. Yes I have posted the website I have used to find them before. Also prepaying yeah not going to do that. Also a bunch of delivery health places that have comparable costs. Personnely I think you two got paid for these reviews. Why go with this place with so many other options. They have all of two options. Also how do you both magically find this brand new club at the same time. Paying deposit in US then the remainder in Yen is highly suspect to me.[/QUOTE]
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I'm not on Twitter
Thanks bro, but Twitter isn't my thing.
Calling me a very sheltered person is not cool bro. I'm not.
I'll admit that Japan is another world to me, so apologies for that. I'm not an expert. Just sharing my experience, that's all.
I didn't think twice about the USD pricing to be honest. But they seem to have advertised their price to Yen now.
The girl I saw (Marina) told me that they literally just launched, and that they're very specific about who they hire. The 2 girls that they have are both into 3 somes. Male / Male, Male / Female, Female / Female. I don't about you, but you're telling me you can find this kind of stuff all the time? I had an absolute porn star experience. We literally did everything except anal. If 2 girls can fuck like that, it matters little to me that they don't have a lot to choose from!
[QUOTE=David032;2897944]If you claim that this place is the best option out there and unbeatable then you are a very sheltered person. You did not do your reseach very well. I can show you girls on Twitter who fuck like porn stars. That cost the same if not a little more than what this places costs. Sorry any place or person in Japan who advertises there price in dollars is suspect to me. I mean they have all of two girls as choices and over here any shop thats is good is going to have a roster of at least 15+. A key indicator in Japan on shops worth is the roster of girls. Unlike other places a higher number of girls is better because that means the girls want to work there because they can earn money there. They also have to keep up good services because if they get complaints the shops will drop tthem. Cause if it's a good shop there are always girls who want to work there. There are girls on Twitter and hime who brag about learning the trade at certain shops because of that shops status.[/QUOTE]
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No, they just launched
The website has been around for a year, but no girls. From what I understand, they just got their license.
I have no clue where the website is hosted, nor do I care really. The owner (s) may be foreign for what I know, but who cares. I'm not fucking the owner, I'm fucking the girls.
No scam yet bro. Like I posted before, I checked my credit card for days and even up to now, no additional charges.
I'm not new to credit card deposits. I've done it in Amsterdam before. For a $1,000 escort for 2 hours. Yes, she was a model.
Check out my original post about my experience with Marina.
I also saw Umi, which I'll post about later.
[QUOTE=Teltel;2898218]Why is [URL]japanfunclub.com[/URL] hosted through Lansing, Michigan?
They have been on the web for around a year but still only two girls?
Paying a booking deposit is usually a scam?
You first wrote about them mid last year, please provide full reports if you have used them.
If you have not used them why are you so enthusiastic about them?
Teltel.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KevinX69;2898483]Thanks bro, but Twitter isn't my thing.
Calling me a very sheltered person is not cool bro. I'm not.
I'll admit that Japan is another world to me, so apologies for that. I'm not an expert. Just sharing my experience, that's all.
I didn't think twice about the USD pricing to be honest. But they seem to have advertised their price to Yen now.
The girl I saw (Marina) told me that they literally just launched, and that they're very specific about who they hire. The 2 girls that they have are both into 3 somes. Male / Male, Male / Female, Female / Female. I don't about you, but you're telling me you can find this kind of stuff all the time? I had an absolute porn star experience. We literally did everything except anal. If 2 girls can fuck like that, it matters little to me that they don't have a lot to choose from![/QUOTE]If your singing praises of this spot the way you are. Saying it's the best of the best yes I will say your sheltered. Its also highly supscious that after several of us complain about the US pricing they change it.
I will say this any spot that advertises FS of the bat in Japan is suspect because that's illegal as hell over here. To give you some help so you can actually experience Japan here are some websites that will push you towards real spots. I have ended up sleeping with actual Japanese Porn stars using the below links. It's also why I can find that experience any time I want. I don't use THC or AM any more besides as if an all else fails type of day. I have yet to have any girl from THC not want to fuck. Sure they charge a little extra but that goes directly to them not the shop. If you want to maximize your visit read the advise I posted about seeing Japaness girls.
[URL]https://chn.cityheaven.net/[/URL]
[URL]https://hime-channel.com/[/URL]
[URL]https://tokyonightstyle.com/[/URL]
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Another option
Two months ago (sorry for late report) I was searching thru massage republic in Tokyo and came across a couple of Japanese ladies I thought looked great (by the way, there are a smattering of American and European ladies on there as well). I noticed the same phone number for a couple of ladies so used WhatsApp to text. The response took me to jpescort. [URL]escortbook.com[/URL]/ models and I went from there.
Booked Norika for an hour to meet me in my nice hotel in Shinjuku. Met her next to the elevator and went up. I think that a hotel security person knew what was going on but nothing they could do, LOL. She was 20, super pretty, slim, very nice (yes, folded all my clothes after taking them off) and off we went to the shower. Back onto the bed and she gives me DFK and a cat bath all the way down to the BBBJ. It was super good so I made her stop as I returned the favor. She ended up cumming so much that she soaked all the way thru the duvet and into the mattress. I rolled on my back and put her on top for CG, which she was really good at. Alternating grinding and up and down. She leaned over for more DFK and super slow motion and I lost it pretty easily even with the condom on. She made is feel like a GFE so that was cool. Back in the shower for cleaning up again, and I helped her get dressed. We chatted a bit and got her laughing a couple times. Looks - 9, Attitude - 9, Sex - 9.
47,000 yen for the whole enchilada. Thought it was totally worth it.
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Reports.
After many years participating in ISG and many other similar forums, I become suspicious of "reports" which are fully of multiple "flowery" adjectives and minute details of things which are of minor relevance to the actual experience.
I consider them to be little more than the "advertorials" which pervade TV and print media.
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[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2898628]After many years participating in ISG and many other similar forums, I become suspicious of "reports" which are fully of multiple "flowery" adjectives and minute details of things which are of minor relevance to the actual experience.
I consider them to be little more than the "advertorials" which pervade TV and print media.[/QUOTE]Mr. Aussie,
Could it be more that "One man's trash is another man's treasure?" It might be better to be more specific on what report you think is an advert instead of a blanket statement. Some like to embellish the little details, and for them are relevant, but maybe not your cup of tea? Just a thought, and happy hunting!
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[QUOTE=ChrisUcla;2898843]Mr. Aussie,
Could it be more that "One man's trash is another man's treasure?" It might be better to be more specific on what report you think is an advert instead of a blanket statement. Some like to embellish the little details, and for them are relevant, but maybe not your cup of tea? Just a thought, and happy hunting![/QUOTE]There is one here from the last 10 days or so. Have a read back and see if anything stands out for you.
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Steel Baton.
Very good report.
[url]robodeli.net[/url] girls 21 K yens BBBJ only? Wonder girls are willing to do FS for extras?
Not speaking Japanese, using gestures only, I got BBFS with a girl in a very dark BBBJ bar in Kyoto. Tipped her $100. Will try the same with ROBODELI girls.
* Damages: 21,000 course fee (for 60 minutes of basic services including touching, fingering, BBBJ)+ 10,000 for anal, + 5,000 for deep throat, +20,000 for vomiting during BJ, +2,000 for nomination fee (picking the girl you want) + 2,000 for the smartphone controller + more for some extras. It was a lot, but she fulfilled some long-held fantasies for me.
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Nuru Options
Hi,
I'm new to this forum here, but I combed through the recent reports but couldn't find much concrete information on Nuru.
I'm visiting Tokyo for a week starting Saturday 3/9, and I've been looking for pure Nuru options (with Happy HJ or BJ ending ofc), but I can't find concrete information, nor do I remember which site I used to get a great Nuru experience in Gotanda last time I was in Tokyo. Any suggestions as to any soaplands or websites?
Note: I'm Taiwanese American and I basically look Japanese apparently as long as I don't open my mouth, but I don't speak almost any Japanese.
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=RealTmb1;2899103]Hi,
I'm new to this forum here, but I combed through the recent reports but couldn't find much concrete information on Nuru.
I'm visiting Tokyo for a week starting Saturday 3/9, and I've been looking for pure Nuru options (with Happy HJ or BJ ending ofc), but I can't find concrete information, nor do I remember which site I used to get a great Nuru experience in Gotanda last time I was in Tokyo. Any suggestions as to any soaplands or websites?
Note: I'm Taiwanese American and I basically look Japanese apparently as long as I don't open my mouth, but I don't speak almost any Japanese.
Thanks![/QUOTE]What your looking for is soaplands with mat play. Those are the best at the nuru experiences they are not as well published in this forum as they are harder utilize and generally require some Japanese. Just looking Japanese won't help much speaking is where the money is. I recently posted three websites that show where you can find soaplands.
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GFE Soapland Kawasaki
[QUOTE=RealTmb1;2899103]Hi,
I'm new to this forum here, but I combed through the recent reports but couldn't find much concrete information on Nuru.
I'm visiting Tokyo for a week starting Saturday 3/9, and I've been looking for pure Nuru options (with Happy HJ or BJ ending ofc), but I can't find concrete information, nor do I remember which site I used to get a great Nuru experience in Gotanda last time I was in Tokyo. Any suggestions as to any soaplands or websites?
Note: I'm Taiwanese American and I basically look Japanese apparently as long as I don't open my mouth, but I don't speak almost any Japanese.
Thanks![/QUOTE]There's a foreigners only soapland that's literally specializes in this exact service. It's GFE-[URL]japan.net[/URL].
It's called GFE soapland kawasaki. I've been there several times and I can vouch for them. The girls are Japanese but since it's a foreigners only shop, English is the defacto language, just like THC.
They have courses from 30 minutes but for Nuru, you'll need a longer course. It's a soapland so FS is guaranteed and if you just want HJ or BJ that should be even easier LOL.
Happy mongering.
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GFE soapland kawasaki
Good info to have.
KEIKYU line from Haneda to Kawasaki station takes 20 min, then a 9 min walk to GFE soapland kawasaki. Now I won't be lonely on lay over.
I heard Kawasaki also has Chinese massages and street walkers?
[QUOTE=Charles96;2899253]There's a foreigners only soapland that's literally specializes in this exact service. It's GFE-[URL]japan.net[/URL].
It's called GFE soapland kawasaki. I've been there several times and I can vouch for them. The girls are Japanese but since it's a foreigners only shop, English is the defacto language, just like THC.
They have courses from 30 minutes but for Nuru, you'll need a longer course. It's a soapland so FS is guaranteed and if you just want HJ or BJ that should be even easier LOL.
Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]
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[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/[/URL]
Tokyo Hentai Club, or THC, has an office in Shinjuku with many girls in the area.
22 K Yens or $160 1 hour, 2 K extra to go to your hotel.
App can be made via Whatsapp to the numbers posted in their site.
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[QUOTE=Charles96;2899253]There's a foreigners only soapland that's literally specializes in this exact service. It's GFE-[URL]japan.net[/URL].
It's called GFE soapland kawasaki. I've been there several times and I can vouch for them. The girls are Japanese but since it's a foreigners only shop, English is the defacto language, just like THC.
They have courses from 30 minutes but for Nuru, you'll need a longer course. It's a soapland so FS is guaranteed and if you just want HJ or BJ that should be even easier LOL.
Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]So do they do mat play there.
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First time Tokyo!
Hello fellas. Thank you for all this information! First trip to Tokyo coming up in about a month. Any in all advice would be greatly appreciated. I will continue to follow your reports and reading as much as possible. Staying in Shinjuku. What are my best options. Incall spots will work better for me. Gaijen here. Can I still have fun?
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Kawasaki Soapland and StreetWalkers
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2899357]Good info to have.
KEIKYU line from Haneda to Kawasaki station takes 20 min, then a 9 min walk to GFE soapland kawasaki. Now I won't be lonely on lay over.
I heard Kawasaki also has Chinese massages and street walkers?[/QUOTE]Yah, I think it's strategically located in Kawasaki to tap into the lonely Haneda layover mongers like you haha.
I have been in Kawasaki many times (Just to visit that soapland of course) but I have never seen any streetwalkers, it doesn't look so ideal for Tachinbo.
Place is known for many soaplands, tho for Japanese or Japanese-speaking dudes (Some), this one taps into the ignored market of foreign mongers like us.
When bored I like moving around, just observing the streetwalkers in Kabukicho or Uguisudani station but price-wise, expect to spend 15000 Yen plus (3500-5000 Yen) for a room which roughly equates to 20,000 Yen for a 30-minute service at GFE Kawasaki, and this is a far better deal for me.
Streetwalkers I have had are generally unenthusiastic and you pick her to do the deed, perhaps some DATY but that's it, BJ is covered and so weak, no Kissing or whatever, and one shot you are already out of the door, even though you technically paid for 1 hour.
In Soaplands, you get the full experience, for shorter courses, Nuru is excluded but GFE, DATY, DFK, FK, FS, I heard some give GS, Rim Job (not a fan) etc, and girls (Especially the experienced ones) treat you like you're the only one they've had that day LOL. If you like experienced ones, pick gold or platinum, silvers are good too and experienced but some are brand new and might not have quite figured out the right procedures to follow (maybe some guys like them fresh) but generally, you get exactly what you paid for.
But once in a while, I also do crave a streetwalker and don't really care much about service, so I try my luck out in Kabukicho until I find one who accepts a foreigner's Yen.
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Mat Play
[QUOTE=David032;2899395]So do they do mat play there.[/QUOTE]Not so sure about mat play, but one can easily ask since they have English support.
There's why-shirt in Yoshiwara as well. They're known for matplay and are friendly to foreigners.
Tho not all girls can take foreigners or those who don't speak a word of Japanese.
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Tokyo - 2 massage shops
I tried out two massage shops this week. Asian Feeling (Shinjuku) and Miss Puke (Ueno).
Both were Thai girls, very good English, and actually felt like a proper massage. Standard HJ, they didn't even offer BJ. Could not touch them, they wanted 3 K extra for that.
Overall worth it for the decent massage with the extra.
What I found at Miss Puke was that online their prices were cheaper than the printed pages they hand you. So I just showed them the website price and they matched it.
Will try out Robodeli next.
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Couples soapy or nuru??
I'm visiting tokyo with my GF who is into japanese girls and we want a soapy experience together. She's thai but is NOT into thai girls so we never done that while in thailand. Sadly. What about strip clubs where we could go?
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[QUOTE=Charles96;2899512]Yah, I think it's strategically located in Kawasaki to tap into the lonely Haneda layover mongers like you haha.
I have been in Kawasaki many times (Just to visit that soapland of course) but I have never seen any streetwalkers, it doesn't look so ideal for Tachinbo.
Place is known for many soaplands, tho for Japanese or Japanese-speaking dudes (Some), this one taps into the ignored market of foreign mongers like us.
When bored I like moving around, just observing the streetwalkers in Kabukicho or Uguisudani station but price-wise, expect to spend 15000 Yen plus (3500-5000 Yen) for a room which roughly equates to 20,000 Yen for a 30-minute service at GFE Kawasaki, and this is a far better deal for me.
Streetwalkers I have had are generally unenthusiastic and you pick her to do the deed, perhaps some DATY but that's it, BJ is covered and so weak, no Kissing or whatever, and one shot you are already out of the door, even though you technically paid for 1 hour.
In Soaplands, you get the full experience, for shorter courses, Nuru is excluded but GFE, DATY, DFK, FK, FS, I heard some give GS, Rim Job (not a fan) etc, and girls (Especially the experienced ones) treat you like you're the only one they've had that day LOL. If you like experienced ones, pick gold or platinum, silvers are good too and experienced but some are brand new and might not have quite figured out the right procedures to follow (maybe some guys like them fresh) but generally, you get exactly what you paid for.
But once in a while, I also do crave a streetwalker and don't really care much about service, so I try my luck out in Kabukicho until I find one who accepts a foreigner's Yen.[/QUOTE]Good piece, personnally can't stand the street walkers. I have done street walkers in the US and you'll find a few hidden gems over there. But so far in Japan they have all sucked, then when I learned they could be underage I figured it wasn't worth the risk. I always go with the top end girls because of the reasons you mentioned. I have found a few who spoke English. I saw a few regularly enough that I have there line and we talk outside of the company. Even took one on a weekend vacation with me. Well worth it. They key in Japan that most here don't understand is these girls want long term customers. Once they are sure you'll be a long term customer the gates open so to speak and almost anything is on the table.
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[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2898950]There is one here from the last 10 days or so. Have a read back and see if anything stands out for you.[/QUOTE]Ahhhhh, yes. I see what you are talking about.
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First Timer
Hey guys,
First timer here and I think I already screwed up by getting a place in Tokyo Bay (wasn't my choice). Any good spots near that area or will I have to go on a journey deeper into the city?
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[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2898950]There is one here from the last 10 days or so. Have a read back and see if anything stands out for you.[/QUOTE]That website also has a review of THC:
"The Tokyo Hentai Club (THC) is an escort service and adult entertainment establishment located in Tokyo, Japan. The Tokyo Hentai Club is known for offering a wide range of sexual services, but is considered to be very expensive and not foreigner-friendly. A series of police raids in the past is also a cause for concern.
The Tokyo Hentai Club caters primarily to Japanese customers, and is not known to be friendly to foreigners and other non-Japanese speakers. There is a language barrier between the staff and customers, which makes intimate interactions tricky. The vast majority of the escorts working at the Tokyo Hentai Club do not speak English.
Despite its controversial nature, the Tokyo Hentai Club is somewhat popular among locals in Tokyo. It remains tricky for foreigners who want to use their services. Tokyo Hentai Club operates in a legal grey area, and there is always some risk associated with engaging in adult entertainment services at facilities where police raids are common. ".
Trying to deter possible THC customers?
Teltel.
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Total BS
[QUOTE=Teltel;2900995]That website also has a review of THC:
"The Tokyo Hentai Club (THC) is an escort service and adult entertainment establishment located in Tokyo, Japan. The Tokyo Hentai Club is known for offering a wide range of sexual services, but is considered to be very expensive and not foreigner-friendly. A series of police raids in the past is also a cause for concern.
The Tokyo Hentai Club caters primarily to Japanese customers, and is not known to be friendly to foreigners and other non-Japanese speakers. There is a language barrier between the staff and customers, which makes intimate interactions tricky. The vast majority of the escorts working at the Tokyo Hentai Club do not speak English.
Despite its controversial nature, the Tokyo Hentai Club is somewhat popular among locals in Tokyo. It remains tricky for foreigners who want to use their services. Tokyo Hentai Club operates in a legal grey area, and there is always some risk associated with engaging in adult entertainment services at facilities where police raids are common. ".
Trying to deter possible THC customers?
Teltel.[/QUOTE]OMG! This is such bullshit. Not just slightly unfactual but out and out lies and misinformation. On the contrary THC is ONLY foreigner friendly. They will not service a native Japanese customer. Their market niche is foreigners only! There are no police raids. They offer fully legal services and all spelled out in black and white on their menu. Nothing even vaguely illegal going on!
Clearly just a smear job and complete BS. THC is my favorite Japanese provider and honestly a worldwide top five for me.
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[QUOTE=Teltel;2900995]That website also has a review of THC:
"The Tokyo Hentai Club (THC) is an escort service and adult entertainment establishment located in Tokyo, Japan. The Tokyo Hentai Club is known for offering a wide range of sexual services, but is considered to be very expensive and not foreigner-friendly. A series of police raids in the past is also a cause for concern.
The Tokyo Hentai Club caters primarily to Japanese customers, and is not known to be friendly to foreigners and other non-Japanese speakers. There is a language barrier between the staff and customers, which makes intimate interactions tricky. The vast majority of the escorts working at the Tokyo Hentai Club do not speak English.
Despite its controversial nature, the Tokyo Hentai Club is somewhat popular among locals in Tokyo. It remains tricky for foreigners who want to use their services. Tokyo Hentai Club operates in a legal grey area, and there is always some risk associated with engaging in adult entertainment services at facilities where police raids are common. ".
Trying to deter possible THC customers?
Teltel.[/QUOTE]Ok did I miss something which website posted that review.
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[QUOTE=David032;2901324]Ok did I miss something which website posted that review.[/QUOTE]Look at posts by Kevin X69.
Teltel.
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[QUOTE=Teltel;2901337]Look at posts by Kevin X69.
Teltel.[/QUOTE]Finally saw it, LOL after reading it makes his post and hate for thc make a whole lot more sense. He also tried last yearr to promote that website. Looking back at his history and every post is about that one website lol definitely suspect.
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[QUOTE=Gene0;2897914]I'm glad you enjoyed it that much. I'll check them out one day. I mostly stick to trusted Okubo girls I've met on Twitter. You can get a good deals from them too. One date I had only charged 30 k (roughly $200) and before we did the deed, she gave me a mini tour of the area and introduced me to some of her friends. The connections you make that way can lead to finding incredible girls.[/QUOTE]How do you find the Okubo girls on twitter?
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[QUOTE=Teltel;2900995]That website also has a review of THC:
"The Tokyo Hentai Club (THC) is an escort service and adult entertainment establishment located in Tokyo, Japan. The Tokyo Hentai Club is known for offering a wide range of sexual services, but is considered to be very expensive and not foreigner-friendly. A series of police raids in the past is also a cause for concern.
The Tokyo Hentai Club caters primarily to Japanese customers, and is not known to be friendly to foreigners and other non-Japanese speakers. There is a language barrier between the staff and customers, which makes intimate interactions tricky. The vast majority of the escorts working at the Tokyo Hentai Club do not speak English.
Teltel.[/QUOTE]I have used the services of THC (Tokyo Hentai Club) few years ago and had wonderful experience. Me and my friend were staying in a Shinjuku hotel and we got two girls in our hotel. Both girls spoke good english. I remember my girl's name was Erica and she gave superlative performance. THC caters to foreigners for sure. They handle things professionally and are very organized. My girl spoke good english and we were in touch for quite some time.
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Redemption in Tokyo
Back from a recent trip to Tokyo, had to pop in THC in Kabukicho to kick things off. I've had bad experiences with them in the past but this time round no issues. Met one of the Diamonds / rec FS with 30 k tip. Pricey though the exchange rates make up for it.
Did the rounds at Jan Jan after dinner at Ueno and ended up going to why-shirt the next before visiting Asakusa.
Final round at GFE Soapland before flying out.
I'll be back again in a few months.
Thanks.
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Muryo-Annai-Jyo?
Anyone tried or heard anything about Muryo-Annai-Jyos like [URL]yorunandesu.net[/URL]? It looks like they help foreigners for no cost and get a kickback, and provide help getting services and into places. I'm especially curious because I'm hoping to check out an oppabu and I know those can be difficult to get into without great japanese (I dabble at best). Hoping it's not some kind of convoluted scam.
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Muryo-Annai-Jyo?
Anyone tried or heard anything about Muryo-Annai-Jyos like [URL]yorunandesu.net[/URL]? It looks like they help foreigners for no cost and get a kickback, and provide help getting services and into places. I'm especially curious because I'm hoping to check out an oppabu and I know those can be difficult to get into without great japanese (I dabble at best). Hoping it's not some kind of convoluted scam.
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Delivery Health
So I'm moving to the greater Tokyo area soon, and I was wondering if anyone would mind clarifying something for me: What is "AF" exactly? Is it actually anal w / o or is it a sneaky way to offer BBFS without getting into any trouble? I've heard conflicting stories. Thank you in advance to those or that who answers.
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From my own experience
[QUOTE=Abesan;2904111]So I'm moving to the greater Tokyo area soon, and I was wondering if anyone would mind clarifying something for me: What is "AF" exactly? Is it actually anal w / o or is it a sneaky way to offer BBFS without getting into any trouble? I've heard conflicting stories. Thank you in advance to those or that who answers.[/QUOTE]AF means "anal fuck". It implies that vaginal sex is on the table if you pay for the AF option. I've paid for the AF option in the past and only got vaginal sex. Minus Soaplands and Shinchi's in Osaka, selling vaginal sex is illegal. I'm sure BBFS is on the table if you're willing to pay extra for it.
Some delivery health providers will end a session early if you try to negotiate for sex though. They'll collect your fee, notify their agency, and leave. I always let the provider start the negotiation process for sex.
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[QUOTE=Abesan;2904111]So I'm moving to the greater Tokyo area soon, and I was wondering if anyone would mind clarifying something for me: What is "AF" exactly? Is it actually anal w / o or is it a sneaky way to offer BBFS without getting into any trouble? I've heard conflicting stories. Thank you in advance to those or that who answers.[/QUOTE]Spend a week or more reading through this forum, all of your questions are a nswered.
I'm coming to Tokyo in two weeks and have a wealth of info from this forum and some of the links found here.
If you're actually moving to Tokyo, you owe it to yourself to read, read and read some more.
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Due to some vagaries in Japan's sex laws, it seems advertising "AF" is "legal" but directly suggesting VF is offered is not legal. What you end up getting is really what you negotiate with the girl at the time. Shops / Agencies are obviously not going to clarify what actual services might be available.
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To clarify
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2904380]Due to some vagaries in Japan's sex laws, it seems advertising "AF" is "legal" but directly suggesting VF is offered is not legal. What you end up getting is really what you negotiate with the girl at the time. Shops / Agencies are obviously not going to clarify what actual services might be available.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify you'll always notice anal is optional. The shop will always tell you it's between you and due to size the girl can tell you no if she doesn't want to and then you'll get nothing. Also there are the rare ones that will only do anal fuck LOL.
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Tokyo Help
Flying into Tokyo soon. Visited often but first time looking for FS. I have read through this forum and I don't seem to understand the scene at all.
Seems to be a lot of nuance and read between the lines? I am just seeking a girl, BBBJ and FS plus nice experience. I only have a 48 hour layover.
If possible please point me (an older gentleman) to where I can find a nice FS experience.
Thank you.
Flysafe.
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+1 First time visit
Hello Guiders,
Travelling to Tokyo this month for a week. Any good soul can provide some insights and pointers would be really helpful. Also any tips on to DOs and DONTs at Japan.
Foreign friendly soaplands in and around Shinjuku?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=FlyHigher767;2904571]Flying into Tokyo soon. Visited often but first time looking for FS. I have read through this forum and I don't seem to understand the scene at all.
Seems to be a lot of nuance and read between the lines? I am just seeking a girl, BBBJ and FS plus nice experience. I only have a 48 hour layover.
If possible please point me (an older gentleman) to where I can find a nice FS experience.
Thank you.
Flysafe.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Ernstblofeld;2905046]Hello Guiders,
Travelling to Tokyo this month for a week. Any good soul can provide some insights and pointers would be really helpful. Also any tips on to DOs and DONTs at Japan.
Foreign friendly soaplands in and around Shinjuku?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]The Kadoebi Group soaplands are all foreigner friendly but expect a 10 k yen surcharge. I went to one high end soapland where they asked for 75 k yen but the majority are 34 k for seventy minutes. IMO, it's not a good value but it was something I wanted to do having never been in Japan. I ended up going to 3 different soaplands and the experience was very consistent. Unless you speak Japanese or want to come twice in a session it might be better to take the 50 minute option. Here is a link. There are a number of stores. [URL]https://www.kadoebi.co.jp/[/URL].
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Wanting to know what I'm getting into
I'm going to be going to Tokyo in a few weeks for the first time ever. Based on my limited research so far, looking for relatively safe / established, English-speaking services, I seem to have narrowed down on planning a visit to GFE Soapland in Kawasaki at some point during my visit. However, I'm still a bit unsure about what exactly I should go in expecting. I am fairly new to this entire thing, and a lot of the sources I have come across have been using a lot of shorthand and innuendo I'm not very familiar with, while also being kinda coy about the experience in general. My only previous experience has been a few places in Central Europe.
To be as direct and up-front as possible, if I go for a 45 or 60 minute session, what all would normally be "included" in the charge? I remember European AMPS tended to only include the HJ in the price of entry, and anything else was up for additional negotiation between you and the provider. How does it work in Japan / in GFE Soapland?
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My experience
[QUOTE=Thaw9182;2905792]I'm going to be going to Tokyo in a few weeks for the first time ever. Based on my limited research so far, looking for relatively safe / established, English-speaking services, I seem to have narrowed down on planning a visit to GFE Soapland in Kawasaki at some point during my visit. However, I'm still a bit unsure about what exactly I should go in expecting. I am fairly new to this entire thing, and a lot of the sources I have come across have been using a lot of shorthand and innuendo I'm not very familiar with, while also being kinda coy about the experience in general. My only previous experience has been a few places in Central Europe.
To be as direct and up-front as possible, if I go for a 45 or 60 minute session, what all would normally be "included" in the charge? I remember European AMPS tended to only include the HJ in the price of entry, and anything else was up for additional negotiation between you and the provider. How does it work in Japan / in GFE Soapland?[/QUOTE]Everything is included in a soapland establishment in Tokyo, including vaginal sex. The only thing you might experience is culture shock in regards to sex work. It's a streamlined process and feels like ordering from a menu at times.
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Typical Play in Soapland
[QUOTE=Thaw9182;2905792]I'm going to be going to Tokyo in a few weeks for the first time ever. Based on my limited research so far, looking for relatively safe / established, English-speaking services, I seem to have narrowed down on planning a visit to GFE Soapland in Kawasaki at some point during my visit. However, I'm still a bit unsure about what exactly I should go in expecting. I am fairly new to this entire thing, and a lot of the sources I have come across have been using a lot of shorthand and innuendo I'm not very familiar with, while also being kinda coy about the experience in general. My only previous experience has been a few places in Central Europe.
To be as direct and up-front as possible, if I go for a 45 or 60 minute session, what all would normally be "included" in the charge? I remember European AMPS tended to only include the HJ in the price of entry, and anything else was up for additional negotiation between you and the provider. How does it work in Japan / in GFE Soapland?[/QUOTE]GFE soapland is a valid soapland welcoming foreigners. So, for a 45 or 60-minute course, you can expect your body gets washed, (with condom) you can cum one time in mutually beloved sex with the girl, and your body is quickly washed again.
For more detail about going to soapland, I suggest reading this post here. [URL]https://www.foreigner-friendly-soapland.net/play-guide/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Ainbh662;2906005]GFE soapland is a valid soapland welcoming foreigners. So, for a 45 or 60-minute course, you can expect your body gets washed, (with condom) you can cum one time in mutually beloved sex with the girl, and your body is quickly washed again.
For more detail about going to soapland, I suggest reading this post here. [URL]https://www.foreigner-friendly-soapland.net/play-guide/[/URL][/QUOTE]No offence but you are going to get roasted here trying to attempt this kind of stuff.
Please report.
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Website is not gfesoapland
[QUOTE=Pegasus887;2906121]No offence but you are going to get roasted here trying to attempt this kind of stuff.
Please report.[/QUOTE]So that website is a fake and scam but GFE soapland isn't just visited there last week. It's not a good soapland comparatively but it will get the job done. Unlike other soaplands the girls focus so much on the sexual side that the massage and mat play suck. It's a cheap reasonable way to get a decent meet up. It is more of brothel than a soapland though.
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Great Post
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2905077]The Kadoebi Group soaplands are all foreigner friendly but expect a 10 k yen surcharge. I went to one high end soapland where they asked for 75 k yen but the majority are 34 k for seventy minutes. IMO, it's not a good value but it was something I wanted to do having never been in Japan. I ended up going to 3 different soaplands and the experience was very consistent. Unless you speak Japanese or want to come twice in a session it might be better to take the 50 minute option. Here is a link. There are a number of stores. [URL]https://www.kadoebi.co.jp/[/URL].[/QUOTE]I'm planning my first trip ever in October for 2 weeks. Trying to read as much as I can before going. A bit daunting. I've been sorting through the various ads on the Kadoebi link that you sent (much appreciated! Is the high-end soapland for 75 k part of this group or is it a different store.
Again thanks for the insight, mongering here seems like quite a different experience than Latin America and Europe. Even Thailand. Very excited to go for the first time. A bucket list stop for me.
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[QUOTE=MikeMark;2906775]I'm planning my first trip ever in October for 2 weeks. Trying to read as much as I can before going. A bit daunting. I've been sorting through the various ads on the Kadoebi link that you sent (much appreciated! Is the high-end soapland for 75 k part of this group or is it a different store.
Again thanks for the insight, mongering here seems like quite a different experience than Latin America and Europe. Even Thailand. Very excited to go for the first time. A bucket list stop for me.[/QUOTE]Kadoebi is a major soapland group and has been around for decades, good research. Let us know how it goes.
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[QUOTE=Pegasus887;2906939]Kadoebi is a major soapland group and has been around for decades, good research. Let us know how it goes.[/QUOTE]Do they have different pricing for different women. The previous poster said some women were significantly more expensive. Not the end of the world for me especially if the quality of girl and sex is better?
For me, it is going to be a one off experience. I understand that some posters in the thread might have different expectations on pricing because they live in Tokyo and are regulars. I'm looking to have a great time and experience as much as possible because I don't know when and if I can get back again.
Thanks for any insight that you can provide!
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[QUOTE=Ernstblofeld;2905046]Hello Guiders,
Travelling to Tokyo this month for a week. Any good soul can provide some insights and pointers would be really helpful. Also any tips on to DOs and DONTs at Japan.
Foreign friendly soaplands in and around Shinjuku?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Honestly, you're not liekly to find any. Your best bet is to head to the Asakusa area. There are 2 or 3 soaplands online that are foreigner friendly but if you visit in the daytime especially on a week day, you'll see many other soaplands will wave you in. That said, it's best to do your research on a number of the soapys in the area so you can make sure you're getting a decent one. Some will have outdated and / or edited photos of the staff for this reason, be careful.
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[QUOTE=Ernstblofeld;2905046]Hello Guiders,
Travelling to Tokyo this month for a week. Any good soul can provide some insights and pointers would be really helpful. Also any tips on to DOs and DONTs at Japan.
Foreign friendly soaplands in and around Shinjuku?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]You should be able to find plenty of info by reading back through the posts. There is no need for secret DMs here.
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[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2897709]Just back from several days last week in Shinjuku and I'm here to report that the BJ scene appears to be dead for Gaijen in Shinjuku. (Lots of other options for gaijen) This forum mentions "Peep Madonna in the heart of Kabukicho, across from the Godzilla head, at Kabukicho Tower. Strip show followed by HJ. One of the cheapest handjobs in all of Tokyo. " This doesn't appear to exist anymore. No establishment by that name anywhere on Google maps in Shinjuku. No establishment similar in the basement of the Kabukicho Tower.
Previously there was mention of "Happy Hirano", a pink salon (BJ parlour) "3 F Ashibe-Kaikan, 2-36-3 Kabukicho, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo, 160-0021" However there is no such place at that address anymore.
I asked around Shinjuku, but could find no BJ bars or action other than what one gets by booking a girl from one of the shops for a health deli takeout option at a much higher than expected price.
However. Jay Jay is still going strong in Sugano, This location is easily reached from the Sugano Station on the JR line. I visited twice. It's a 5 minute walk from the station and fairly easy to find on the right hand side of the street with a flashing pick sign out from indicating JPY 3,000 as the price. Down one level to the basement by steps and into the dark room with 12 high backed cubicals, actually more like rectangular benches with 1. 3 meter high backs. I arrived around 5:00 pm and there seemed to be 3 or 4 other customers, both Japanese and foreigners, I paid first, 4000 (including the 1,000 gaijen tax), was lead to a dark cubical and sat on low cushioned bench covered by a black towel.
The first time I didn't request any particular lady and after sometime the manager directed a woman in a long black dress to me. It was dark and difficult to see her face, but her body looked slim. She said Hello, and gestured for me to pull down my pants while keeping my shoes on (definitely keep those shoe on. The floor looks like some spulg was slowly drying). She then pulled her dress down to her waist and removed her panties while keeping the dress bunched around her narrow waist. She took a sanitised cloth and cleaned my equipment and gave me another antiseptic cloth to wipe my hands and then she crouched across the couch and got to work. It was an excellent blowjob. While she had her head in my crotch my hands were free to roam her body, which I did, discovering a very thin frame with small tits and a large lightly haired cnut which was surprisingly wet. I fingered her quite aggressively and she emitted small gasps, I took my wet fingers and massaged her asshole, eventually penetrating it with some force. My other hand squeezed her tiny soft tits and pulled her large mommy nipples. She was surprisingly accommodating to all of this.
4,000 gives you 30 minutes, at 20 minutes she had some alarm which went off and she indicated that time was almost up. Her skill was sufficient and expert for me to not need extra time. Afterwards she cleaned up, said thank you and left.
I returned a day later around 13:00 and asked the manager for different woman with bigger tits. This was very similar to the first, but she had much larger tits with large nipples which were good for stretching. She neglected to remove her panties, so once she began, I reached around and simply pulled them off her, sliding them down to her feet and off. She assisted without complaint. Otherwise the session was much the same as the first.
Overall, it was a unique experience. I had expected to be slightly repulsed by a 40 yr woman sucking me off, but it was actually a turn-on. Must be somewhat humiliating for the women to be doing this. Its dark and their appearance is difficult to see very well, which makes them almost anonymous, like getting shoeshine while you read a paper. The woman, judging by from their saggy breasts were all MILFs, but otherwise had trim bodies and surprisingly tight pussies. The darkness and the thrill of having a woman's hot mouth on your cock in a dark place with other men being quietly serviced at the same time was a turn on. And, the woman, like so many Japanese girls, were extremely service oriented, obedient, and submissive to my perhaps callous treatment of their tits and cnuts. Something totally different from anything I have ever done before. Totally recommend the experience and I will be back.
Upon leaving, I noticed two other shops directly across the street. One with a price of 5,000 accepts gaijen, the other seemed closed.
Attached are photos of location of the BJ bars in Sugano.[/QUOTE]Based on the above I ventured to Jan Jan on Friday at noon (Japan's Friday since it's Friday now in the States). Easy to find, and down the steps I went. Got the immediate gaijin price of 4 k and was led to a bench right past a guy getting his BJ. Was a little startling at the moment because everything was just so out in the open. Waited about 5 minutes for an older (40?) woman to show up. Could hear slurping around me as I waited and almost started laughing. She did the wipe down, then started in to the action with her dress pulled down and her panties off. It wasn't all the best for me for two reasons: 1 was that I didn't find her all that attractive, and 2 was that she kept going way fast no matter how many times I asked her to slow down. So I ran out of time! She let me know that for another 4 k I could get another girl, so I paid up and waited, and am really glad I did. A young, tight body showed up and was super sweet and understood when I said to please go slow. Dress came down but the panties didn't. So based on the above report I gently started to take them off and she helped in a heartbeat. This time I was not only super attracted to the girl but she went slow as requested so I was in happy land in 5 minutes. Kind of surprised as to how long she kept her mouth on junior as I blew, and after it took her a while to get rid of the load, but did so gracefully (if that's possible), LOL. Helped me clean up and get dressed and chatted just a bit. She was super sweet and walked me to the door. I'll repeat in a heartbeat but ask the owner for anyone other than the First Lady (though she did make her next client blow in like 3 minutes after she left me). They were right in front of me so I could tell by her head disappearing then popping back up.
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[QUOTE=MikeMark;2906775]I'm planning my first trip ever in October for 2 weeks. Trying to read as much as I can before going. A bit daunting. I've been sorting through the various ads on the Kadoebi link that you sent (much appreciated! Is the high-end soapland for 75 k part of this group or is it a different store.
Again thanks for the insight, mongering here seems like quite a different experience than Latin America and Europe. Even Thailand. Very excited to go for the first time. A bucket list stop for me.[/QUOTE]Spa Yoki was the expensive one.
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Ultra Omotenashi
I've been checking this forum for long time, but this is my first post.
Last month, I was in Japan for two weeks as a business traveler, and I tried a session with a girl from Ultra Omotenashi. My friend introduced this agency. I was told they are foreigner-friendly escort agency.
First of all, I connected with them via their LINE account, which I found on their website. Once connected, there was no problem having several long chats with them. They were very helpful and patient with all my questions. The provider's pictures on their website seemed edited to me, so I told them what I liked and asked for their recommendation. My friend advised me to do so. I mentioned I preferred someone tall, slender, with a tight figure and a great smile. They then provided some pictures for me, and I chose Appleberry.
Summary:
Name: AppleBerry (23 yo on the website, but a bit older than that, still very young).
English: No (She has a small translation device with her).
Face: 4/5 Definitely her picture on website was edited, but she was better in person.
Body: 4/5 As I've requested, she was tall, slender, with tight figure.
Skill: 4/5 good, good BBBJ, DFK, Sixty nine with two pops.
Attitude: 5/5, great smile with great hospitality.
Total Damage: JPY 93300 (JPY 90000 and JPY 3300 for premium surcharge).
First of all, they said it's "Nominationa Fee" and I didn't understand it. It just wrong google translation and it is simply "Premium Surcharge for Each Providers. ".
120 minutes including unlimited pops, DFK, whole body licking, BBBJ, fingering, Sumata.
Everything was set up via the LINE app without a problem, and I met her in front of the elevator at the lobby of my 5-star hotel. One thing that made me nervous was that she was with her driver, and I handed the payment to him. They said they did this for first-timers.
AppleBerry was slender and very tall for a Japanese woman. She had a good figure with a tight ass. Her body was simply amazing. Her smile was great, no matter what service was being performed. She is skilled and dedicated to her craft. She didn't just go through the motions or rely solely on her looks. It was very clear that she wanted to make sure I was satisfied. This helps explain why she came highly recommended.
I had a great time with her and will definitely see her again, or try meeting someone else from this agency, when I come back to Japan this June.
Thank you, Jake.
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Tokyo Shinjuku.
Hi,
Am in Shinjuku for last 5 days and as a first time visitor it is very difficult to monger here, though everything seems to be on there at kabukicho but it's difficult to understand what are they and felt high at Price by looking at few websites and more importantly the touts makes you feel nervous and walk away. I wish there was a local guide who could have helped mongering and helping in visiting stores.
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It's Easy
[QUOTE=Ernstblofeld;2910044]Hi,
Am in Shinjuku for last 5 days and as a first time visitor it is very difficult to monger here, though everything seems to be on there at kabukicho but it's difficult to understand what are they and felt high at Price by looking at few websites and more importantly the touts makes you feel nervous and walk away. I wish there was a local guide who could have helped mongering and helping in visiting stores.[/QUOTE]Just face the fact it's expensive. It's Tokyo. Then go to [URL]hentaitokyo.com[/URL] and pick a well reviewed girl who is working. Meetup walk to love hotel. Easy. Couldn't be easier. And great girls if you pick a well reviewed one.
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First Time
Hi all, looking at a first time Tokyo trip next winter. I've read 10 pages, but will go back.
A few Q's that don't seem to be answered in my forum reading:
1) Best hotel options, assuming you want to have visitors? Assume price is not the main priority. Centrally located, good food, etc.
2) At the soaplands, do you get to choose the girls in advance from a group? I like to pre-select and that seems to be a problem with online sites.
3) Speaking of 2), do the online sites like Tokyo Hentai Club have pretty accurate pics (or photoshop nonsense)? I honestly don't trust other people's ratings of girls.
4) WTH is an Okubo girl and how do you find them on Twitter?
TIA, everyone.
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Tokyo Shinjuku stay
Will be next 2 weeks in JP for the first time, after long waiting to play with real JP ladies. Staying in an APA hotel in Shinjuku.
1) Will certainly try ROBODELI but I am a bit confused if (not knowing japanese) it will be better to book directly on their Line address or through Cityheaven.
I fully fancy the girl named Lime that is certainly the smallest one (148 cm) but she seems open to very raunchy playing + accepts foreigners.
The system of this Shop seems Unique, with their options 1-3 Robot style + 1-3 Action plan! .
2) Would like very much also to try a Pinsaro. This seems to be a major quest for foreigners, and more even in Kabukicho?! However, I found 2 that seem to operate still? (will try to post a map).
If no luck; I plan to go and ask in the INFO Shop "Yorunandesu" on 1-11-13 as last hope.
3) Another Deli that called my attention is the "kiwami-dendoushi" shop.
4) Last will be the incall shop Sinkaigyo on 1-15-10 Kabukicho, but I am not sure really if this is a Soap or something else?
Anyone with experiences with this to help me further?
I will, of course, give Report of my results back to the forum.
Thanks!!
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First Time
I was about to recommend 3-star Premier Hotel Cabin Shinjuku right next to Okubo Park and hospital, where some street girls hang out, but the rate shot up to $150 with tax $182 in May, WTF? Couple security guards patrolled at the entrance to the park. A few Middle Eastern-looking guys hang out in that corner day and night, allegedly selling drugs. Early one morning, a group of about 20 men and women in dark clothes were brawling noisily on the narrow street right outside my window, shouting, pushing each other around. Had no idea what it was about. They dispersed by about 5 AM.
Meanwhile 3-star APA Shinjuku Kabukicho Tower can be had for $77, with tax $92 in May. It's in the middle of all actions, a short block from Okubo park. Both hotels are girls-friendly.
Very few street girls were around Okubo when I was there in Dec / Jan. The hospital set up barriers with signs, No Standing, on sidewalk, but a few were still standing at the edges. It was freezing cold and rainy some days. Any women, wearing tan over coat, standing around with umbrellas, hand bags, bottles of water, are likely street workers. I walked passed a decent-looking woman in her tan overcoat on sidewalk right next to the hospital's No Standing zone. Tried to make eye contact but she avoided me. Next day walked past an older woman. She was looing at me but she looked very old, ugly like a great grand ma. I passed.
Near hotel Premier Cabin found a tall, very attractive young girl standing under her umbrella in her tan overcoat, showing long, strong legs. She was talking to a Japanese guy a long time before sneaking in the shabby love hotel right behind her.
Looks like the few street girls in Okubo prefer their regular johns. I did not spend a lot of time outside searching due to the freezing cold and rainy weather. Not successful. Warm weather in May could bring better street actions.
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[QUOTE=JinaWrangler;2910135]WTH is an Okubo girl and how do you find them on Twitter?[/QUOTE]Hookers that stand around Okubo Park in Kabukicho. Lots of them. A certain Samurai posts videos of them almost nightly.
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Handjobs
I'm a fan of professional handjobs, and was thinking about visitting Lovely Hand in Kabukicho. I couldn't find any reviews for that establishment here, but anyone knows if it is an OK place? I heard about the touts in the area, but as along as I don't make eye contact and just go ahead I will be fine, I hope? :-the.
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Kabuki cho Ongoing investigation
[QUOTE=Robser;2911158]Will be next 2 weeks in JP for the first time, after long waiting to play with real JP ladies. Staying in an APA hotel in Shinjuku.
1) Will certainly try ROBODELI but I am a bit confused if (not knowing japanese) it will be better to book directly on their Line address or through Cityheaven.
I fully fancy the girl named Lime that is certainly the smallest one (148 cm) but she seems open to very raunchy playing + accepts foreigners.
The system of this Shop seems Unique, with their options 1-3 Robot style + 1-3 Action plan! .
2) Would like very much also to try a Pinsaro. This seems to be a major quest for foreigners, and more even in Kabukicho?! However, I found 2 that seem to operate still? (will try to post a map).
If no luck; I plan to go and ask in the INFO Shop "Yorunandesu" on 1-11-13 as last hope.
3) Another Deli that called my attention is the "kiwami-dendoushi" shop.
4) Last will be the incall shop Sinkaigyo on 1-15-10 Kabukicho, but I am not sure really if this is a Soap or something else?
Anyone with experiences with this to help me further?
I will, of course, give Report of my results back to the forum.
Thanks!![/QUOTE]Ongoing investigations have brought me to find 2 Soap that openly accept foreigners with a "extra option".
* Barbora Marine Blue; next to Shinjuku JR Station Foreigners +20 k.
* Sinkaigyo; Foreigners +10 k and only limited "choice".
Well; at least it is something to start with when I will arrive.
Please, don't keep from helping me with my earlier questions, whenever you have info. Thanks!
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Pinsaros
[QUOTE=Robser;2911158]Will be next 2 weeks in JP for the first time, after long waiting to play with real JP ladies. Staying in an APA hotel in Shinjuku.
1) Will certainly try ROBODELI but I am a bit confused if (not knowing japanese) it will be better to book directly on their Line address or through Cityheaven.
I fully fancy the girl named Lime that is certainly the smallest one (148 cm) but she seems open to very raunchy playing + accepts foreigners.
The system of this Shop seems Unique, with their options 1-3 Robot style + 1-3 Action plan! .
2) Would like very much also to try a Pinsaro. This seems to be a major quest for foreigners, and more even in Kabukicho?! However, I found 2 that seem to operate still? (will try to post a map).
If no luck; I plan to go and ask in the INFO Shop "Yorunandesu" on 1-11-13 as last hope.
There are two that I know near each other, JanJan and Academy near Sugamo station. I think that Academy changed its name recently. They accept foreigners.
BP
3) Another Deli that called my attention is the "kiwami-dendoushi" shop.
4) Last will be the incall shop Sinkaigyo on 1-15-10 Kabukicho, but I am not sure really if this is a Soap or something else?
Anyone with experiences with this to help me further?
I will, of course, give Report of my results back to the forum.
Thanks!![/QUOTE]There are two that I know near each other, JanJan and Academy near Sugamo station. I think that Academy changed its name recently. They accept foreigners.
BP.
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6 hour layover & first timer
Hello,
This Saturday I have a 6 hour layover at the Tokyo International Airport (Haneda Airport) (HND).
As a first time visitor in Japan I was wondering if there is somewhere close by I can go to. Kill an hour or two. Looking for masssages, BJ bar, wh, or even street girls near the airport.
Any info would!
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Best option for HND layover
[URL]https://gfe-japan.net/first-timers[/URL]
[QUOTE=TallDarkUsa;2913924]Hello,
This Saturday I have a 6 hour layover at the Tokyo International Airport (Haneda Airport) (HND).
As a first time visitor in Japan I was wondering if there is somewhere close by I can go to. Kill an hour or two. Looking for masssages, BJ bar, wh, or even street girls near the airport.
Any info would![/QUOTE]
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Hentai shinjuku
6-hour layover in Haneda should be enough time to visit the Hentai club in Shinjuku. Depending on what time, it should be open 24/7.
Take the TOKYU express bus to the Shinjuku Tower terminal. Ticket counter is in the arrival terminal with signs "Express Bus" or "Limousine. " Only half hour ride to Shinjuku Tower and a short walk to the Hentai Club. Hentai girls can suggest plenty love hotels within short walking distances.
Check bus schedule for the ride from Shinjuku Tower back to Haneda, or take UBER or taxi. Should not cost a lot.
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/howtouse[/URL]
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/access_shinjuku[/URL]
Their directions from Shinjuku train station is a longer walk, 10 to 15 minutes.
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[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2900118]I tried out two massage shops this week. Asian Feeling (Shinjuku) and Miss Puke (Ueno).
Both were Thai girls, very good English, and actually felt like a proper massage. Standard HJ, they didn't even offer BJ. Could not touch them, they wanted 3 K extra for that.
Overall worth it for the decent massage with the extra.
What I found at Miss Puke was that online their prices were cheaper than the printed pages they hand you. So I just showed them the website price and they matched it.
Will try out Robodeli next.[/QUOTE]I notice the have the "Thai Massage" and the "Oil Massage" on the menu, which is much more expensive. Does that mean that it's including the he?
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The cheapest is Madonna
[QUOTE=Mgp23;2914012]I notice the have the "Thai Massage" and the "Oil Massage" on the menu, which is much more expensive. Does that mean that it's including the he?[/QUOTE]For people who want something really cheap and convenient, check out Madonna in Shinjuku.
It's a peep show place.
2100 Yen is the entree fee. It's about 15 min.
2000 for he.
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Do you feel comfortable without knowing japanese?
Hey all, I'm going to tokyo in a week or so and I am kinda nervous since I don't know any japanese. Is it easy to order food and do you have trouble getting around? I went to taiwan before and for me without my friends I don't think I could have survived LOL.
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Mia from GFE-tokyo or GFE-Japan. Long shot
Last May my wife and I met with Mia through GFE-tokyo (agency and Line account no longer exist). I think maybe GFE-escorts has taken over the url. It was redirecting there until recently. In any case, we've had some average threesome outcalls with girls in Tokyo, while Mia was one of the best ever.
So my wife has me on a mission to find Mia before we book our next visit.
I've spent hours looking at Tokyo escort websites, can't find her. She was rather tall (for a Japanese girl), spoke only a little English.
So this is possibly my last hope. If this fails, we might have to try four or five escorts before she finds a new favorite; feel sorry for me.
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Do you feel comfortable without knowing japanese?
I don't speak any Japanese, but I felt completely comfortable and fun in Japan in the last few visits. Japanese are very polite and civilized. Women are gentle, trusting and helpful, always smile sweetly and giggle innocently like little school girls. Looks like women are well protected and cared for in Japan. Quite a few times I fumbled with ticket machines in train stations or coffee machines in convenient stores, nice, good-looking young women noticed and just came over to help out. These women are nice, noble and caring. I wanted to hug and kiss them.
I would stay in Shinjuku near Shinjuku Tower where hundreds sex shops, restaurants and bars serve all kinds of food, funs and kinky sex. Never had problem ordering food or sex. A Yakitory near the cinema is open 24/7, popular with young crowd, with a chef grilling meat skewers in the window, a few hot young waitresses too, only $1 a stick, $2. 50 beers, very convenient, tasty, fun and cheap.
A lot of small fast food restaurants have machines by the entrance where you order your food, give tickets to the servers who bring food to your table. A duck ramen soup shop, 1 short block North of Okubo hospital and hotel Premier Cabin, is open 24/7, a big, hot bowl of delish duck ramen with chunks of duck meat and half a duck breast costed only $6. 50. I had to catch a plane early one morning, just walked to the shop with my luggage, quickly had a hot bowl of the best duck soup anywhere, hailed a cab to the train station to get out to Narita airport.
Also went to a few AYCE yakinikus, AYCE Wagyu steak and sushi houses, in Kabukicho area in Shinjuku, most have on-line reservation for 2 people min, but a few would serve single diners, AYCE delish grilled and hot pot wagyu beef $40-50.
For girls and sex, Hentai and Soapland have offices within walking distances of the Tower with English-speaking workers. You can book appointments online, or just walk into their offices and check their selections and walk to love hotels next door. Hentai also delivers girls to your hotel for $20 service charge.
I felt completely safe and comfortable in Japan, unlike places like Vietnam where I was always getting ready for fist fights hehe.
[QUOTE=LMatt465;2916146]Hey all, I'm going to tokyo in a week or so and I am kinda nervous since I don't know any japanese. Is it easy to order food and do you have trouble getting around? I went to taiwan before and for me without my friends I don't think I could have survived LOL.[/QUOTE]
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You'll be perfectly fine.
[QUOTE=LMatt465;2916146]Hey all, I'm going to tokyo in a week or so and I am kinda nervous since I don't know any japanese. Is it easy to order food and do you have trouble getting around? I went to taiwan before and for me without my friends I don't think I could have survived LOL.[/QUOTE]While the Japanese media may be playing up this idea of 'overtourism', cities like Tokyo, Osaka, and Yokohama are absolutely well equipped to handle and service tourists, including those who can't speak a word of the language. The Japanese are well aware of the fact that Japanese is a difficult language to pick up. Most restaurants in popular areas have English menus, as well as menus that feature pictures of the food item along with their prices nearby. While many Japanese don't feel confident in speaking English, many of them understand it perfectly fine as long as you use basic words, speak at a reasonable pace, and don't use long run on sentences. Furthermore, the Japanese absolutely appreciate 'effort', if you simply attempt to speak a few Japanese words to get your point across, even if you stumble terribly, it will earn you a lot of goodwill and people will go out of their way to help you.
Upon entering an establish, I'd watch how people order and how they pay. Do you use a tablet? A ticket machine? Or are you waiting for a waiter or waitress to come by? When it comes time to pay, are people paying ahead of time? Waiting to ask for their check? Or are you given a slip that you take up front to pay once you're finished? Just knowing those basic details can help with avoiding awkward interactions if you don't speak Japanese. And remember, if you mess up, they won't be mad at you.
Be respectful, soft spoken, use an appropriate volume / tone of voice and you'll be perfectly fine. The Japanese LOVE showcasing their country to visitors and that absolutely includes food. They WANT you to enjoy it. Have a great time!
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[QUOTE=Robser;2911158]Will be next 2 weeks in JP for the first time, after long waiting to play with real JP ladies. Staying in an APA hotel in Shinjuku.
1) Will certainly try ROBODELI but I am a bit confused if (not knowing japanese) it will be better to book directly on their Line address or through Cityheaven.
I fully fancy the girl named Lime that is certainly the smallest one (148 cm) but she seems open to very raunchy playing + accepts foreigners.
The system of this Shop seems Unique, with their options 1-3 Robot style + 1-3 Action plan! .
2) Would like very much also to try a Pinsaro. This seems to be a major quest for foreigners, and more even in Kabukicho?! However, I found 2 that seem to operate still? (will try to post a map).
If no luck; I plan to go and ask in the INFO Shop "Yorunandesu" on 1-11-13 as last hope.
3) Another Deli that called my attention is the "kiwami-dendoushi" shop.
4) Last will be the incall shop Sinkaigyo on 1-15-10 Kabukicho, but I am not sure really if this is a Soap or something else?
Anyone with experiences with this to help me further?
I will, of course, give Report of my results back to the forum.
Thanks!![/QUOTE]Well, let me update on my quest, even if I did not get much help.
1) Pink salons in Kabukitcho: Found and tried de 2 I mentioned, but was rejected (politely) with "Only Japanese". So I had no other choice to take the train to Sugamo.
2) Next to Sugamos station, found the BJ street without problems and entered JanJan. Welcome but needed to pay 4 k in small notes. I seem to have been the first visitor that day and the (grumpy) recptionist could not handle 10 k bill. Then escorted to a seat and seconds later a girl was named on the PA system to join me.
Karin it was. She is a young lady, slim and very friendly. Small boobs hanging from baby feeding suppose but then we don't come for a beauty contest, nor can I participate in one.
She did a very good job and guided me friendly to all the thing I could do to participate. She was very willing to have me giving her a finger work and bumped up and down eagerly on my hand herselff. Also deep kissing she liked. Of course, one should not think to much on what her mouth could have done before, but then I was the first that day, at least.
I should have tried a next round but she really finished me so I left that day very happy.
2 days later; I went back. Karin was not present, or the receiving lady did no understand me, so I was attributed a very mature lady that was in no way similar to Karin and the service could not really get me very interested. I changed for another lady +4 k but recieved a similar mature uninterested lady.
So; I was very lucky the 1st day.
3) Massage in Kabukitcho. Tried Asian Feeling on the main street facing Godzilla. Once upstairs it seemed a really big business as shown by al the shoes at the entrance and the running of people around. A (not very interested) receptionist just showed me the menu, but after having asked me something like "live in Tokyo?" and I made the mistake to say no. Result was that I was given a different menu with higher prices as shown at the entrance. 11 k Oil massage. Did not want to argue so ok.
I was given a Lady that later gave me a note with her name Mimy, so I would remember The massage was ok for what could be expected but nothing more. She was friendly thow, and laid next to me for the second part with a smiling HJ.
Second massage parlour I tried was next to the road along the Shin Okubu station Name Spicey something 4 F.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/tFCcrJQCbRQquYHc7[/URL]
I have to say that this is a real massage parlour with no shorts away moment, but I really want to mention it because after walking +25 k steps a day I really needed it!
Tha lady named Wu was really the best massage! I went 3 times. All ladies are Chinese, so the price was only 5,5 k for full hour oil massage.
3) Several times, I tried to go to the Info Shop "Yorunandesu" on 1-11-13, but always found it closed. I can be that they only open on later hours then my visits, but I was sorry not to be able to test them for more foreign friendly services.
4) Tried ROBO DELI but as my hotel seemed not to be very friendly to external services with permanent guards in the lobby + key entrance to the elevators, I went to include one of the countless love hotels of the place into my experience. Chosen Listo Hotel as one of the nearest.
First made reservation by Line app without any problem. They sent you a question list in English and you fill it out with your options. So I did ask for the lady I liked of the day schedule and ok for 1 HR later in the Listo Hotel.
Off I went and the hotel was ok. Choose rooms on tactile screens at the lobby and was helped very friendly to get to the rooms and pay in a machine inside the room. Funny: I was then "locked" inside my room but recalled that is the system in these places where they don't' want customers bumping to each other in the elevators.
20 m later a tiny lady called at the door.
The service, unfortunately, was very very standard. Yes, she did the service and was kind but it had nothimg of what this place announces as Unique and Different to all in the world!
I asked for the Robot 2 style + Ero 3, option Immediate raw + DeepTh; which more or less would get me "violated" as soon as I opened the door and what I got was a very shy lady that was like a first timer approach.
5) Tried to contact the "kiwami-dendoushi" shop, but they didn't reply to my Line until next day with some lame excuse that Line was slow, even if other shops answered in 1 min. So they lost me.
Conclusion: Very happy to have visited Japan and will come back even with the 19 h flight, but for sex I am far better off in Spain!
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[QUOTE=LMatt465;2916146]Hey all, I'm going to tokyo in a week or so and I am kinda nervous since I don't know any japanese. Is it easy to order food and do you have trouble getting around?[/QUOTE]You don't need to know Japanese to visit Tokyo. 1000's of restaurants have English menus or photos that clearly depict what you are ordering. Some of the small izakayas will have Japanese only but you can use Google Translate camera to translate Japanese to English. If you still find things difficult, there's always McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King, Denny's, etc.
Yamanote Line that's all you need to know. It circles Tokyo. You can't get lost. The massive train stations like Tokyo, Shinjuku, etc now that's another story altogether. Google maps is your best friend there. Even Japanese use it to find stuff.
Thanks for your reviews, Robser.
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I had a great 2 hour session with Kaoru from Tokyo Style. No hassle easy booking in English. Kaoru showed up looking like her pictures. She's got a nice tight small body that matches her Ginza model style fashion perfectly. Charming with a cute laugh too. Not much English but we both kept our mouths busy. She's responsive with a dripping wet slit. Top level massage skills and good BBBJCIM. I will repeat.
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[QUOTE=PieCake1234;2837192]Going to Japan with my girlfriend (she's Japanese so can speak but can't read / write) and she's open to me finding a girl for us both to have fun with. Any advice on what places might be open to us?[/QUOTE]How was your trip? Report back!
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Places or search keywords for incall / outcall massage and BJ?
I'm visiting Tokyo and looking for excellent massage and BJ. I want to experience both nuru and other types of massage with a CBJ or BBBJ ending. Bonus points for deep throat. OK with incall or my hotel or love hotel. What places should I go to or what types of place or search keywords I should use? Thanks experts.
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Wow great informative report!
[QUOTE=Robser;2916599]Well, let me update on my quest, even if I did not get much help.
1) Pink salons in Kabukitcho: Found and tried de 2 I mentioned, but was rejected (politely) with "Only Japanese". So I had no other choice to take the train to Sugamo.
2) Next to Sugamos station, found the BJ street without problems and entered JanJan. Welcome but needed to pay 4 k in small notes. I seem to have been the first visitor that day and the (grumpy) recptionist could not handle 10 k bill. Then escorted to a seat and seconds later a girl was named on the PA system to join me.
Karin it was. She is a young lady, slim and very friendly. Small boobs hanging from baby feeding suppose but then we don't come for a beauty contest, nor can I participate in one.
She did a very good job and guided me friendly to all the thing I could do to participate. She was very willing to have me giving her a finger work and bumped up and down eagerly on my hand herselff. Also deep kissing she liked. Of course, one should not think to much on what her mouth could have done before, but then I was the first that day, at least..[/QUOTE]Wow this is a great informative report!
What did you mean by "which more or less would get me violated"?
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[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2917155]Wow this is a great informative report!
What did you mean by "which more or less would get me violated"?[/QUOTE]Hi; well I might have made a bad translation. "raped" could have been more accurate.
But; have a look for yourself on their website robodeli point net about de MODE ROBOT + MODE ERO.
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Such interesting concept!
[QUOTE=Robser;2917371]Hi; well I might have made a bad translation. "raped" could have been more accurate.
But; have a look for yourself on their website robodeli point net about de MODE ROBOT + MODE ERO.[/QUOTE]Oh I see.
I checked out the website. It's such an interesting concept!
Maybe it's hard to find aggressive Japanese women due to their culture.
Thanks for the tips!
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[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2915129]For people who want something really cheap and convenient, check out Madonna in Shinjuku.
It's a peep show place.
2100 Yen is the entree fee. It's about 15 min. 2000 for he.[/QUOTE]What is this 1500 yen price?
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She dissappearedd
[QUOTE=TokRoll;2916312]Last May my wife and I met with Mia through GFE-tokyo (agency and Line account no longer exist). I think maybe GFE-escorts has taken over the url. It was redirecting there until recently. In any case, we've had some average threesome outcalls with girls in Tokyo, while Mia was one of the best ever.
So my wife has me on a mission to find Mia before we book our next visit.
I've spent hours looking at Tokyo escort websites, can't find her. She was rather tall (for a Japanese girl), spoke only a little English.
So this is possibly my last hope. If this fails, we might have to try four or five escorts before she finds a new favorite; feel sorry for me.[/QUOTE]I saw Mia like twice she was supposed to give me her line the third time but unfortunately that service sucked for making arrangements and never got to see her before they shut down. I agree one of the best I have had no idea if she just stopped working or if she moved on. The GFE club also won't answer any questions unfortunately.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2910059]Just face the fact it's expensive. It's Tokyo. Then go to [URL]hentaitokyo.com[/URL] and pick a well reviewed girl who is working. Meetup walk to love hotel. Easy. Couldn't be easier. And great girls if you pick a well reviewed one.[/QUOTE]That would be great if they offered FS. But expensive and no sex? That's hard to justify.
Are there any options for foreigners where you can get attractive girl, FS, see the girl (or at least an accurate picture) beforehand?
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[QUOTE=NRandom940;2920114]That would be great if they offered FS. But expensive and no sex? That's hard to justify.
Are there any options for foreigners where you can get attractive girl, FS, see the girl (or at least an accurate picture) beforehand?[/QUOTE]"Arranging a meeting between two parties for the purpose of vaginal intercourse in exchange for financial compensation is illegal in Japan.
Tokyo Hentai Club is a licensed and legally complying escort provider that operates under Japanese law thus we would appreciate your co-operation in not requesting this service when making a booking with our staff member. ".
If you read between the lines, there is nothing preventing you from making a personal arrangement with the girl during the booking?
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[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2920226]"Arranging a meeting between two parties for the purpose of vaginal intercourse in exchange for financial compensation is illegal in Japan.
Tokyo Hentai Club is a licensed and legally complying escort provider that operates under Japanese law thus we would appreciate your co-operation in not requesting this service when making a booking with our staff member. ".
If you read between the lines, there is nothing preventing you from making a personal arrangement with the girl during the booking?[/QUOTE]Have you done this personally?
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[QUOTE=NRandom940;2920237]Have you done this personally?[/QUOTE]I have had an arrangement with a girl from henti, unfortunately to be completely honest it's not guaranteed. I will say this the better looking the girl the lower chance it's on offer with just one meeting. Usually cause she's booked solid so she doesn't need extra money as much. Some of the less attractive girls offer it right away cause they aren't booked a lot so any extra money is welcomed by them. Also any girl offering anal fuck is a pretty sure thing of you either get an actual anal fuck which is legal or she will say switchy during the date and just do normal sex. The down side is if you ask the wrong girl, she can report you to management and all access to the henti is revoked. Cause as someone has mentioned it's illegal. I have found on a second or third date most girls will offer it or have no problem if you ask once they think your going to be a regular.
My best advice is to assume your only going to get at least two bjs when you go on a date. Unless she offers it first willing don't ask till she has started sucking your or at least sucked you off once. The girls are a little more relaxed once they have gotten you off. You'll notice most of us won't post about specific girls at the locations because the shops do monitor these forms and have been known to ban girls if they break the rules. Because it's legality issue and they could lose there business licence.
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[QUOTE=David032;2920343]I have had an arrangement with a girl from henti, unfortunately to be completely honest it's not guaranteed. I will say this the better looking the girl the lower chance it's on offer with just one meeting. Usually cause she's booked solid so she doesn't need extra money as much. Some of the less attractive girls offer it right away cause they aren't booked a lot so any extra money is welcomed by them. Also any girl offering anal fuck is a pretty sure thing of you either get an actual anal fuck which is legal or she will say switchy during the date and just do normal sex. The down side is if you ask the wrong girl, she can report you to management and all access to the henti is revoked. Cause as someone has mentioned it's illegal. I have found on a second or third date most girls will offer it or have no problem if you ask once they think your going to be a regular.
My best advice is to assume your only going to get at least two bjs when you go on a date. Unless she offers it first willing don't ask till she has started sucking your or at least sucked you off once. The girls are a little more relaxed once they have gotten you off. You'll notice most of us won't post about specific girls at the locations because the shops do monitor these forms and have been known to ban girls if they break the rules. Because it's legality issue and they could lose there business licence.[/QUOTE]OK thanks, good to know.
I've also found some suggestions on other websites of foreigner friendly soaplands that offer FS at a much more affordable rate, so I will try those too.
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[QUOTE=David032;2920343]I have had an arrangement with a girl from henti, unfortunately to be completely honest it's not guaranteed. I will say this the better looking the girl the lower chance it's on offer with just one meeting. Usually cause she's booked solid so she doesn't need extra money as much. Some of the less attractive girls offer it right away cause they aren't booked a lot so any extra money is welcomed by them. Also any girl offering anal fuck is a pretty sure thing of you either get an actual anal fuck which is legal or she will say switchy during the date and just do normal sex. The down side is if you ask the wrong girl, she can report you to management and all access to the henti is revoked. Cause as someone has mentioned it's illegal. I have found on a second or third date most girls will offer it or have no problem if you ask once they think your going to be a regular.
My best advice is to assume your only going to get at least two bjs when you go on a date. Unless she offers it first willing don't ask till she has started sucking your or at least sucked you off once. The girls are a little more relaxed once they have gotten you off. You'll notice most of us won't post about specific girls at the locations because the shops do monitor these forms and have been known to ban girls if they break the rules. Because it's legality issue and they could lose there business licence.[/QUOTE]Best way to get offered FS is to book a session with no upgrades. Providers make a lot of their income from the upgrade menu. If you purchase a bunch of options, it might be enough for the provider to just give you a BBBJ. I always let the provider ask me if I want something more. If you ask the wrong provider for more, she might just end the session on the spot.
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[QUOTE=Zhuren;2877400]Those Chinese women around "the" train station (there are many in Tokyo) usually are no streetwalkers. They usually are touts. Also usually, you should not go with touts in Tokyo, except in the small red light district of Gotanda. The Chinese touts of Gotanda, prowling the streets after nightfall, will take you reliably to underground bordellos, where you can get FS for 10,000 yen, probably the lowest rate in all of Tokyo.[/QUOTE]Where is the red light district in Gotanda?
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Very helpful
[QUOTE=Robser;2916599]Well, let me update on my quest, even if I did not get much help.
1) Pink salons in Kabukitcho: Found and tried de 2 I mentioned, but was rejected (politely) with "Only Japanese". So I had no other choice to take the train to Sugamo.
Conclusion: Very happy to have visited Japan and will come back even with the 19 h flight, but for sex I am far better off in Spain![/QUOTE]Very insightful report, thank you sir! Incidentally I will soon test both Tokyo and Barcelona back to back for the first time.
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[QUOTE=Jake1974;2909907]I've been checking this forum for long time, but this is my first post.
Last month, I was in Japan for two weeks as a business traveler, and I tried a session with a girl from Ultra Omotenashi. My friend introduced this agency. I was told they are foreigner-friendly escort agency.
First of all, I connected with them via their LINE account, which I found on their website. Once connected, there was no problem having several long chats with them. They were very helpful and patient with all my questions. The provider's pictures on their website seemed edited to me, so I told them what I liked and asked for their recommendation. My friend advised me to do so. I mentioned I preferred someone tall, slender, with a tight figure and a great smile. They then provided some pictures for me, and I chose Appleberry.
Summary:
Name: AppleBerry (23 yo on the website, but a bit older than that, still very young).
English: No (She has a small translation device with her).
Face: 4/5 Definitely her picture on website was edited, but she was better in person.
Body: 4/5 As I've requested, she was tall, slender, with tight figure.
Skill: 4/5 good, good BBBJ, DFK, Sixty nine with two pops.
Attitude: 5/5, great smile with great hospitality.
Total Damage: JPY 93300 (JPY 90000 and JPY 3300 for premium surcharge).[/QUOTE]JPY 93300 for 120 minutes?
Is it avarage price in Tokyo?
I will be in Tokyo next month.
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No it's not
[QUOTE=Jonathan2832;2921246]JPY 93300 for 120 minutes?
Is it avarage price in Tokyo?
I will be in Tokyo next month.[/QUOTE]No this isn't the norm it's actually super expensive. This one of the known agency's that targets foreigners at a ridiculous charge. If you look at a few of my older post I have listed quite a few places to find DH girls. You shouldn't be paying more than 60 k for 90 mins. Unless your utilizing one of the higher end places. And the above mention place just claims to be higher end.
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I agree. Expensive.
[QUOTE=David032;2921507]No this isn't the norm it's actually super expensive. This one of the known agency's that targets foreigners at a ridiculous charge. If you look at a few of my older post I have listed quite a few places to find DH girls. You shouldn't be paying more than 60 k for 90 mins. Unless your utilizing one of the higher end places. And the above mention place just claims to be higher end.[/QUOTE]I was in Tokyo last Nov. I used an agency. Saw three girls. I recall it was US $400 for 2 hours.
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I agree. Expensive.
[QUOTE=David032;2921507]No this isn't the norm it's actually super expensive. This one of the known agency's that targets foreigners at a ridiculous charge. If you look at a few of my older post I have listed quite a few places to find DH girls. You shouldn't be paying more than 60 k for 90 mins. Unless your utilizing one of the higher end places. And the above mention place just claims to be higher end.[/QUOTE]I was in Tokyo last Nov. I used an agency. Saw three girls. I recall it was US $400 for 2 hours.
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I tried an independent for the first time in Tokyo. Her name was Manami. Has a website and is advertised in a few places. Her pictures are edited but relatively accurate. She's an above average looking MILF. Speaks English. Arguably easier to book than an agency too. But there is a premium price and I have to be honest and say I didn't see how it was worth it. Nice enough woman, had a good time, did everything she was supposed to. But still it's hard to justify 45,000 Yen for an hour. I wouldn't repeat but she seems to be pretty popular, so I may be in the minority on this.
I always have better luck with agencies and professional establishments. That is now true of Tokyo too.
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Manami, aka Tokyo Melty Kiss, is something of a legend here, with a history going back 10-15 years to her days with Asian Mystique agency. She was so popular, she decided to cut out the middle man.
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Things to know about Japan Scene
I found this video from YouTube informative.
[URL]https://youtu.be/oyn-qEYUn68?si=nBQvQ3zcQT_GJ45I[/URL].
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[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2923697]Manami, aka Tokyo Melty Kiss, is something of a legend here, with a history going back 10-15 years to her days with Asian Mystique agency. She was so popular, she decided to cut out the middle man.[/QUOTE]I wasn't very impressed. I will be going back to agencies in the future.
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[QUOTE=ChrisUcla;2909698]Based on the above I ventured to Jan Jan on Friday at noon (Japan's Friday since it's Friday now in the States).[/QUOTE]I have like a 6 HR layover at hanada airport. 9 am-3 pm. So have to leave at noon to get there by 1 p.
What time do they open?
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Denied at Jan Jan.
Google translate said it was Jan Jan. (See pic).
I don't speak Japanese. The old guy at the door asked me a question. No clue.
I showed him 4 k yen. He kept repeating the same question Then said no. I left. This was at 12:30 pm weekday.
So what did I do wrong?
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JanJan schedule
Does anyone know until what time is JanJan open?
I will arrive to Haneda at 9:30 pm. Can I make it on time? Or does anyone have any better suggestions?
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[QUOTE=Tna01;2924295]Google translate said it was Jan Jan. (See pic).
I don't speak Japanese. The old guy at the door asked me a question. No clue.
I showed him 4 k yen. He kept repeating the same question Then said no. I left. This was at 12:30 pm weekday.
So what did I do wrong?[/QUOTE]Site is.
[URL]http://jan2-sugamo.com[/URL]
That looks the same as your picture.
As to what you did wrong. I cannot answer that, if you have a few Japanese words then no problem as far as I know.
Teltel.
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A Tokyo Newbie Experience
This is a detailed perspective to help newbie mongers like me. Skip to the middle for just the mongering stuff.
Getting cash: Japan is surprisingly still cash heavy. As a foreigner you need considerable amount of cash for daily transactions such as taxi, public transport (bus / subway), many local restaurants, vending machines, some stores, etc. This is because foreign (sometimes any) credit cards are not accepted in such places. Also, most Japanese bank ATMs will not recognize foreign MC / Visa despite the logos stamped on them. After googling, I found that the good old American 7-11 (aka '7-Bank') is by far the best (cheapest and accessible) way to get cash with a foreign card. There is a 7-11 or two, or three at every corner, and their ATMs only charge a flat 220 yen (less than $1. 50) for any withdrawal above 10,000 yen (up to what your card / bank will allow).
Local transport: Extremely convenient via the most extensive (and busiest) subway system I have encountered, super easy to get to any mongering corner of the city. Make sure you purchase a Suica / Pasmo card which you can top up as needed for local transport within any city. However, only cash works for both purchase and top up for foreigners. Only the bullet train ticket counter accepted my foreign CC.
Hobby: I was very skeptical following countless reports that suggest major aversion to foreigners in Japan. Most experiences reported here (outright rejections, hefty foreigner 'tax') were not reassuring. However, Japan is far and expensive to get to, so I was determined to make the best of a bad situation. No way I was going home empty handed. I am not into street walkers or night clubs, I prefer established incalls or outcall. My experience in Tokyo is restricted to such, but I did venture into RLDs at night just for the fun. Incredibly clean and organized (like everything in Japan), the walk of shame you would feel elsewhere never kicks in.
Hentai-Tokyo was my original target based on insights from this forum, but as I was browsing for intel, I came across an ad for Tokyo Amateur Escorts ([URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/[/URL]), with a pricing structure that seemed more attractive, but no mention or reviews anywhere. I decided to pay them a visit and take one for the team if needed. They claim to only host Japanese girls, all under 25. Their website has very clear directions to their office near Shibuya subway station, but Google map will also take you there. The owner and his staff speak a bit of English, so easy to communicate. When I arrived the first time in late afternoon only 3 ladies were available despite lots listed on the website. All looked hot though. Another cause for concern is that when I made my choice, the owner shook his head and said 'no good', and suggested that I pick from the other 2, with a clear preference for one of them. My experiences with house recommendations around the world have been abysmal at best, so I was rather skeptical but did not wish to be impolite. Japanese are polite to a fault, so you feel a natural obligation to reciprocate. It was taking one for the team time.
Prices on their website are accurate, I opted for 65 min /21 k yen. Just remember you have to pay additional 2 k admission fee and another 2 k selection fee, whatever those mean. I guess it is a way for the house to make base revenue they don't have to split with the provider. After the (forced) 'selection' I was given a piece of paper (in Japanese) to take next door to the love motel (I think Onyx is the name), where I had to pay for the room separately. They had options for 60 min to 4 hours, I chose 90 min, paid (about 3 k) and got my key. They used the piece of paper I was given to coordinate the room number with the agency so the lady knows where to find me. Other agencies I visited (including Tokyo-Hentai) do it differently, the lady either meets you at the office or at a predetermined location near the office and you walk together (holding hands) to their default love motel. I guess this is part of the 'girlfriend experience'.
Anyway, back to the virgin experience. The room was small but clean and had all the essentials, a large screen TV, a toilet, a shower with bathtub, air conditioning (all 6 rooms I sessioned in at the Onyx were similar). The lady (going by Manami, [URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/%e6%a3%ae%e5%b7%9d%e3%81%be%e3%81%aa%e3%81%bf/[/URL]) knocked on the door after about 5 min. Young, hot, slender but shapely (feminine), tallish (about 5'6" almost modelesque. Spoke zero English, but very friendly personality and playful demeanor. My original skepticism began to melt instantly.
After a brief google translate chit chat, she prepared two cups of mouthwash and gave me one. We gargled and then she took me to the shower and washed me front and back, lingering as needed on the essentials. These women know how to take care of their men. The GFE that followed was top shelf, inexperience mixed with innocence that made the experience feel very genuine and sensual, my style exactly. The lady also thoroughly enjoys what she does and delivered one of the best experiences I have had to date, and the best on this trip. She is the only one I repeated with despite so many options I wanted to sample. The house got it right this time, and their subsequent recommendations were spot on!
My other experiences were variations of above. Only one lady seemed to do it as a job and I would never repeat with. The rest brought their 'A' game and delivered at a high level, like they really enjoyed what they do. Most of the ladies were also surprisingly true to age and appearance, especially Tokyo Amateur. Hentai ladies tended to be older than their posted photos / ages, but not by abnormal margins. I used them mostly in Osaka.
My average per session damage at Tokyo amateur was 28 K including room cost (about USD 180 at going exchange rate), and it was my favorite agency for various reasons. No attempt at upsell (Hentai especially liked annoying upsell), one simple price for all ladies, most accurate age / pic match, and best performance-price ratio (excellent based on the service I got). You can also book with them via whatsapp, where they send you pics of ladies available at your preferred time slot, and even make recommendations based on your prior choices or preference.
About Japanese women: Almost the opposite of what I was led to believe from reading numerous posts / blogs. I personally found them to be the most open-minded providers I have encountered anywhere in the world both in and out of the bedroom, by quite some margin. Brazilian women come a distant second in this regard. In terms of performance, the high level of A game they bring to the hobby is comparable only to the Brazilian women. While Brazilian women beat them in passion and PSE, they win hands down in overall GFE and sensuality.
About 6 out of 10 women I sessioned with insisted on walking me to either the main street or all the way to the subway (5 to 10 min walk) after the session, hand in hand. Talk about GFE! This was the case in both Tokyo and Osaka (yes, I sessioned there too), so it was apparently not a unique phenomenon. And I am as far removed from Japanese-looking as can be.
Useful tip: Do not pay for any upsell hoping to get better service. Let things flow organically in the room with the lady. Most of them won't disappoint you if you do your homework.
I wish Japan wasn't so damn expensive to travel to and board in. This would have been my favorite mongering destination in addition to Brazil.
Happy mongering my friends!
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Annoying upsell
[QUOTE=Kib123;2925080]This is a detailed perspective to help newbie mongers like me. Skip to the middle for just the mongering stuff.
Getting cash: Japan is surprisingly still cash heavy. As a foreigner you need considerable amount of cash for daily transactions such as taxi, public transport (bus / subway), many local restaurants, vending machines, some stores, etc. This is because foreign (sometimes any) credit cards are not accepted in such places. Also, most Japanese bank ATMs will not recognize foreign MC / Visa despite the logos stamped on them. After googling, I found that the good old American 7-11 (aka '7-Bank') is by far the best (cheapest and accessible) way to get cash with a foreign card. There is a 7-11 or two, or three at every corner, and their ATMs only charge a flat 220 yen (less than $1. 50) for any withdrawal above 10,000 yen (up to what your card / bank will allow).
Local transport: Extremely convenient via the most extensive (and busiest) subway system I have encountered, super easy to get to any mongering corner of the city. Make sure you purchase a Suica / Pasmo card which you can top up as needed for local transport within any city. However, only cash works for both purchase and top up for foreigners. Only the bullet train ticket counter accepted my foreign CC.
Hobby: I was very skeptical following countless reports that suggest major aversion to foreigners in Japan. Most experiences reported here (outright rejections, hefty foreigner 'tax') were not reassuring. However, Japan is far and expensive to get to, so I was determined to make the best of a bad situation. No way I was going home empty handed. I am not into street walkers or night clubs, I prefer established incalls or outcall. My experience in Tokyo is restricted to such, but I did venture into RLDs at night just for the fun. Incredibly clean and organized (like everything in Japan), the walk of shame you would feel elsewhere never kicks in.
Hentai-Tokyo was my original target based on insights from this forum, but as I was browsing for intel, I came across an ad for Tokyo Amateur Escorts ([URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/[/URL]), with a pricing structure that seemed more attractive, but no mention or reviews anywhere. I decided to pay them a visit and take one for the team if needed. They claim to only host Japanese girls, all under 25. Their website has very clear directions to their office near Shibuya subway station, but Google map will also take you there. The owner and his staff speak a bit of English, so easy to communicate. When I arrived the first time in late afternoon only 3 ladies were available despite lots listed on the website. All looked hot though. Another cause for concern is that when I made my choice, the owner shook his head and said 'no good', and suggested that I pick from the other 2, with a clear preference for one of them. My experiences with house recommendations around the world have been abysmal at best, so I was rather skeptical but did not wish to be impolite. Japanese are polite to a fault, so you feel a natural obligation to reciprocate. It was taking one for the team time.
Prices on their website are accurate, I opted for 65 min /21 k yen. Just remember you have to pay additional 2 k admission fee and another 2 k selection fee, whatever those mean. I guess it is a way for the house to make base revenue they don't have to split with the provider. After the (forced) 'selection' I was given a piece of paper (in Japanese) to take next door to the love motel (I think Onyx is the name), where I had to pay for the room separately. They had options for 60 min to 4 hours, I chose 90 min, paid (about 3 k) and got my key. They used the piece of paper I was given to coordinate the room number with the agency so the lady knows where to find me. Other agencies I visited (including Tokyo-Hentai) do it differently, the lady either meets you at the office or at a predetermined location near the office and you walk together (holding hands) to their default love motel. I guess this is part of the 'girlfriend experience'.
Anyway, back to the virgin experience. The room was small but clean and had all the essentials, a large screen TV, a toilet, a shower with bathtub, air conditioning (all 6 rooms I sessioned in at the Onyx were similar). The lady (going by Manami, [URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/%e6%a3%ae%e5%b7%9d%e3%81%be%e3%81%aa%e3%81%bf/[/URL]) knocked on the door after about 5 min. Young, hot, slender but shapely (feminine), tallish (about 5'6" almost modelesque. Spoke zero English, but very friendly personality and playful demeanor. My original skepticism began to melt instantly.
After a brief google translate chit chat, she prepared two cups of mouthwash and gave me one. We gargled and then she took me to the shower and washed me front and back, lingering as needed on the essentials. These women know how to take care of their men. The GFE that followed was top shelf, inexperience mixed with innocence that made the experience feel very genuine and sensual, my style exactly. The lady also thoroughly enjoys what she does and delivered one of the best experiences I have had to date, and the best on this trip. She is the only one I repeated with despite so many options I wanted to sample. The house got it right this time, and their subsequent recommendations were spot on!
My other experiences were variations of above. Only one lady seemed to do it as a job and I would never repeat with. The rest brought their 'A' game and delivered at a high level, like they really enjoyed what they do. Most of the ladies were also surprisingly true to age and appearance, especially Tokyo Amateur. Hentai ladies tended to be older than their posted photos / ages, but not by abnormal margins. I used them mostly in Osaka.
My average per session damage at Tokyo amateur was 28 K including room cost (about USD 180 at going exchange rate), and it was my favorite agency for various reasons. No attempt at upsell (Hentai especially liked annoying upsell), one simple price for all ladies, most accurate age / pic match, and best performance-price ratio (excellent based on the service I got). You can also book with them via whatsapp, where they send you pics of ladies available at your preferred time slot, and even make recommendations based on your prior choices or preference.
About Japanese women: Almost the opposite of what I was led to believe from reading numerous posts / blogs. I personally found them to be the most open-minded providers I have encountered anywhere in the world both in and out of the bedroom, by quite some margin. Brazilian women come a distant second in this regard. In terms of performance, the high level of A game they bring to the hobby is comparable only to the Brazilian women. While Brazilian women beat them in passion and PSE, they win hands down in overall GFE and sensuality.
About 6 out of 10 women I sessioned with insisted on walking me to either the main street or all the way to the subway (5 to 10 min walk) after the session, hand in hand. Talk about GFE! This was the case in both Tokyo and Osaka (yes, I sessioned there too), so it was apparently not a unique phenomenon. And I am as far removed from Japanese-looking as can be.
Useful tip: Do not pay for any upsell hoping to get better service. Let things flow organically in the room with the lady. Most of them won't disappoint you if you do your homework.
I wish Japan wasn't so damn expensive to travel to and board in. This would have been my favorite mongering destination in addition to Brazil.
Happy mongering my friends![/QUOTE]So I am curious what annoying upsell hentai offers. Litterly the same list of allowed play is exactly the same for both hentai and amateur. I use hentai all the time. They have options but most Japanese places have them. Hell even amauter has options Also the options aren't upsell by henti all the options go directly to the girl. So that's truthfully why girls have more options than others to make more money Second of all you paid extras on top anyway with an admission fee and selection fee. I have never been charged this at hentai or gfesoapland. Plus add in the fact you have a whole host of other places mentioned on this forum. Sometimes I wonder if you guys get paid to do reviews on garbage places. If you claim hentai does do upsell please explain how they try to do upscale. Cause the only thing they have ever asked me for was options, LOL and none of these girls will give you an option for free. I mean maybe but that would take a whole lot of game and you would have to good looking as hell.
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[QUOTE=Kib123;2925080]As a foreigner you need considerable amount of cash for daily transactions such as taxi, public transport (bus / subway), many local restaurants, vending machines, some stores, etc. This is because foreign (sometimes any) credit cards are not accepted in such places. [/QUOTE]You can load a Suica card with money once and use it for public transport, taxis, vending machines, in convenience stores, etc.
[QUOTE]Also, most Japanese bank ATMs will not recognize foreign MC / Visa despite the logos stamped on them. After googling, I found that the good old American 7-11 (aka '7-Bank') is by far the best (cheapest and accessible) way to get cash with a foreign card. There is a 7-11 or two, or three at every corner, and their ATMs only charge a flat 220 yen (less than $1. 50) for any withdrawal above 10,000 yen (up to what your card / bank will allow).[/QUOTE]Not my experience at all. I use a Charles Schwab Visa bank card issued in USA. Have been withdrawing money all over Japan for 20 years.
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I tried Gal Deli in Ikebukuro.
[URL]https://galdeli-ikb.com/lang/en.php[/URL]
They are gaijin friendly, but you might have to jump through some hoops.
Certain women are gaijin friendly. They're marked "foreigner ok" on their profiles.
There's also a gaijin tax.
You have two choices: pay the gaijin fee, or keep your dick in your pants.
I decided to pay the fee.
I dropped 45000 Yen for 2 hours with Dominika.
This is her: [URL]https://galdeli-ikb.com/sys/girl.php?id=dominika&tpl=10[/URL].
Pictures use crazy filters but one at the end with her face over her mouth is basically what she looks like.
Super tan, outrageous "gal". She really plays the role too!
I checked into a love hotel. She showed up on time. I paid when she walked in. All the money together and in a white envelope just like the good old days.
Skinny, small tits, lotioned up, smelling like perfume and cigarettes. Basically speaks no English but acts like a total bimbo ****.
I touched and licked all over her body. Even put her toes in my mouth at one point.
After I tongued her bung hole for a while she pulled my pants down and face fucked herself with my cock.
She was very enthusiastic but not that great. Felt a lot of teeth on my shaft.
Grabbing her skinny ass cheeks with both hands and and spreading her butt hole open got me to cum.
We had more time. She played the dummy bimbo role more. I touched her body until I get recharged.
Next round we did 69. I managed to blow one more load right at the buzzer when I was slipped my tongue up to her anus.
Not my proudest moment.
I was almost regretting the whole thing on the walk back to the train, with my upper lip tasting like some kind of musty fermented food.
Glad I tried it though. Scratched an itch.
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After mid-range lukewarm experiences with Melty Kiss and Gal Deli I decided to go back to Tokyo Style. It is expensive but the quality is guaranteed.
The older I get the more I value time over money.
I contacted Tokyo Style by Telegram app.
This time I went with Milla on recommendation of the booking agent.
[URL]https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/profile.php?cid=Milla[/URL]
Her pictures show a nice body and everything checked out.
Had her come out to my hotel. I met her in the lobby and brought her up to the room. Introductions and paid.
We is surprisingly beautiful in person. Mature, but almost like a model. She's really gorgeous. Pretty face and a amazing body. Classy too. She doesn't look like a money girl at all.
Very good English. A little tanned. She has a few wrinkles around her eyes. But her body is smooth as silk.
MILF age range but more like a fashion model than a mom. I was charmed.
She started off washing me good in the shower. The massage was great. We talked a lot. On the flip she gave me head in different positions. Then she sat on my chest and jacked me off while I stared at her starfish. She has a great ass.
40000 Yen well spent. No upsale or begging for "options" is one reason I love Tokyo Style. You pay the set price and you get the service. No need to worry about anything else.
The ninety minutes went way too fast. I not only would repeat; I plan to as soon as possible.
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First time to Japan.
Hi,
Thank you for the reviews and reports.
But being a foreigner, Japan can be very confusing.
I have tried my best to understand how the systems work through this forum. But finally request you to advice, which would be the best area in Tokyo to stay with family but with close proximity to incall services like (tokyo amateur escort or hentai tokyo) OR Pink saloons.
I am there for just 2 nights.
Had thought of booking a hotel at Ginza or a be&be at Shinjuku.
Please advice.
Thanks.
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Hotel Recommendations
Does anyone have a hotel recommendation (non love hotel) close to the Tokyo Hentai Club?
Thank you.
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Kabukicho Tower, Shinjuku
That area has lots of food and entertainment for all ages and tastes.
Hotel A25 is in the middle, convenient to all things.
Hentai and Soapland are within quarter mile.
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Shill posts
[QUOTE=David032;2925332]So I am curious what annoying upsell hentai offers. Litterly the same list of allowed play is exactly the same for both hentai and amateur. I use hentai all the time. They have options but most Japanese places have them. Hell even amauter has options Also the options aren't upsell by henti all the options go directly to the girl. So that's truthfully why girls have more options than others to make more money Second of all you paid extras on top anyway with an admission fee and selection fee. I have never been charged this at hentai or gfesoapland. Plus add in the fact you have a whole host of other places mentioned on this forum. Sometimes I wonder if you guys get paid to do reviews on garbage places. If you claim hentai does do upsell please explain how they try to do upscale. Cause the only thing they have ever asked me for was options, LOL and none of these girls will give you an option for free. I mean maybe but that would take a whole lot of game and you would have to good looking as hell.[/QUOTE]No doubt, any experienced users can tell a shill review over a real one. No one would write a 1-page essay on a shop like "Tokyo Amateur Escort". Place is like the dollar store version of THC with similar prices.
I've used the service twice in the past and both times finding the girls photos to be heavily photoshopped. They go by Garden Gal for the Japanese [URL]https://www.garden-gal.com/[/URL] and upsell to foreigners as Tokyo Amateur Escort.
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Apa hotel kabukicho
[QUOTE=Shamester;2925670]Does anyone have a hotel recommendation (non love hotel) close to the Tokyo Hentai Club?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Try apa hotel, there are a few around the area but the best ones location wise are kabukicho tower (godzilla) and kabukicho chuo (on a side street corner).
Key card needed for access so if you are looking for privacy don't use.
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Hotel Recommendations
Hotel Apa Shinjuku is a few hundred yards from Hentai Shinjuku.
Hotel Premier Cabin is also within walking distance.
Both Hentai and Soapland Shinjuku are within walking distance from Kabukicho Tower.
[QUOTE=Shamester;2925670]Does anyone have a hotel recommendation (non love hotel) close to the Tokyo Hentai Club?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
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Correction: Apa hotel Shinjuku
Apa hotel Shinjuku, not A25.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2925784]Hotel Apa Shinjuku is a few hundred yards from Hentai Shinjuku.
hi
Hotel Premier Cabin is also within walking distance.
Both Hentai and Soapland Shinjuku are within walking distance from Kabukicho Tower.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Is Hotel Apa Shibuya Dogenzakaue also close to Hentai?
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2925877]Apa hotel Shinjuku, not A25.
][/QUOTE]Thanks again. Which exact one is closest to Hentai? It appears Dogenzakaue is the nearest Apa Hotel to Hentai.
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Returning to Japan
Most APA hotels in the Shibuya / Shinjuku are within the sex shops at walking distance. I don't know what the shop policy is in regarding doing incall / outcall to your hotel when booking the service at the shop directly? Either way you can visit the office and check the photos without blurring, handy if you are picky hobbyist.
If anyone has any good recommendations please post them up, did my rounds a few months ago at GFE soapland, thc and Jan Jan.
Will be trying out Milky Baby in Ikebukuro for some lactating working girl action.
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[QUOTE=David032;2925332]So I am curious what annoying upsell hentai offers. Litterly the same list of allowed play is exactly the same for both hentai and amateur. I use hentai all the time. They have options but most Japanese places have them. Hell even amauter has options Also the options aren't upsell by henti all the options go directly to the girl. So that's truthfully why girls have more options than others to make more money Second of all you paid extras on top anyway with an admission fee and selection fee. I have never been charged this at hentai or gfesoapland. Plus add in the fact you have a whole host of other places mentioned on this forum. Sometimes I wonder if you guys get paid to do reviews on garbage places. If you claim hentai does do upsell please explain how they try to do upscale. Cause the only thing they have ever asked me for was options, LOL and none of these girls will give you an option for free. I mean maybe but that would take a whole lot of game and you would have to good looking as hell.[/QUOTE]My friends, written upgrade option charges by agencies is not unique to Japan. I can't think of any country where agencies don't list such extras. My experience is that many (perhaps most) providers themselves are not fully aware or don't remember what options are listed for them and what counts as 'extra' and for how much. With above in mind, your mongering experience anywhere will be far superior. If a provider wants extra for something, they will let you know, they are in the business of making money from you and are never shy about it.
I specified Hentai because the agency is the one that was almost always active with the upsell during booking, not the ladies once in the room. Their ladies though perform well, but I found them more valuable in Osaka, because in Tokyo I got better value from Amateur. I sessioned with 12 ladies, which I believe is a good enough sample size to make my observations.
Also, no need to discount other mongers' experiences based on your less than stellar ones.
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[QUOTE=Pegasus887;2925754]No doubt, any experienced users can tell a shill review over a real one. No one would write a 1-page essay on a shop like "Tokyo Amateur Escort". Place is like the dollar store version of THC with similar prices.
I've used the service twice in the past and both times finding the girls photos to be heavily photoshopped. They go by Garden Gal for the Japanese [URL]https://www.garden-gal.com/[/URL] and upsell to foreigners as Tokyo Amateur Escort.[/QUOTE]The kind of nonsense that discourages people from posting honest reviews. Your bad experiences don't exclude others from good experiences. Post your actual experience in a productive way instead of lame attempt to water down someone else's observations.
Granted you are still green here, but that is no excuse for such a post.
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[QUOTE=David032;2925332]If you claim hentai does do upsell please explain how they try to do upscale.[/QUOTE]I haven't been there due to my first trip soon. But from my research so far, I'm guessing with upsell he means that Hentai (and some other places) have all those 'options' and in order to get the service you want you need to take these options. Call it options, call it upsell. Same same but diffrent?
But on that point of upsell. Since I'm a newbie for Japan!. On the subject of FS. Is this always an upsell / option, or is that depending the place. Let's put it this way, I've read somewhere that at THC for example, this is considered an option and its not always an option even. I get that they can't promote it, but so far I thought certain service are simply not promoted but are included.
I read one specific example where a similar place charged 35 k for 90 m session and then 30 k for that option. If you then add some other options, you quickly reach 70-75 k total for a session. Was just curious if that's how it works everywhere or if that's how it work at the places who do the option method. Or maybe this story I read was just someone who overpaid a lot LOL.
Side question. Street walking? Stay away? Or if they get your attention and have a nice chat see what they have to say and go from there? I realize most won't attract a farang.
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[QUOTE=SlickLicker;2926466]I haven't been there due to my first trip soon. But from my research so far, I'm guessing with upsell he means that Hentai (and some other places) have all those 'options' and in order to get the service you want you need to take these options. Call it options, call it upsell. Same same but diffrent?
But on that point of upsell. Since I'm a newbie for Japan!. On the subject of FS. Is this always an upsell / option, or is that depending the place. Let's put it this way, I've read somewhere that at THC for example, this is considered an option and its not always an option even. I get that they can't promote it, but so far I thought certain service are simply not promoted but are included.
I read one specific example where a similar place charged 35 k for 90 m session and then 30 k for that option. If you then add some other options, you quickly reach 70-75 k total for a session. Was just curious if that's how it works everywhere or if that's how it work at the places who do the option method. Or maybe this story I read was just someone who overpaid a lot LOL.
Side question. Street walking? Stay away? Or if they get your attention and have a nice chat see what they have to say and go from there? I realize most won't attract a farang.[/QUOTE]So since you haven't been I'll explain and it should make more sense. First to start off with full service is illegal in Japan. Blowjobs, anal sex and naked massages are not. That's why most of us warn any place that outright advertises full service is not to be trusted. There are few that hint at it but don't outright say it. It's also why we say to look for girls who offer. Anal fuck because most will just switch to normal sex. Most girls will offer FS as a secret option in the room. But you can actually get in trouble for asking for it. That's why some shady places offer it knowing they will get the guys who want it.
That being said there is a FS option there called soaplands. Your almost guaranteed to get full service there. I say almost because truthfully if the girls decides not give you FS you can't really complain cause FS is illegal anyway. Somehow soaplands get around that not sure how but they do.
That being said in Japan the basic service for escorts, is shower, kissing, massage, blowjob or hand job. All of those are part of the service. From there all shops offer options they are not upsell they are in a sense enchantments. Swallowing, cum in mouth, deep throating cosplay, video session,. The reason I called his review into question is because the shop he reviewed litterly has the same options available. Also having used hentai the closes thing they do to upscale is the time. They will be quick to point out that 90 minutes and above is unlimited shots. Which they prefer to do that before hand than trying to negotiate extensions in the room.
Street walkers in Japan this has been talked about multiple times. Besides the thrill. Honestly why take the chance street walkers are usually girls who couldn't make it in the official sex clubs. That or they are underage they aren't that significant cheaper. The average cost about 10000 to ,20000 yen most soaplands / delivery health are in a similar range anyway. In the Us some of them have some super head game. Over here they are are horrible they will do the bare minimum to get it done. Remember I said they rejects from official sex work.
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Looking for help. A few questions
Coming to Tokyo for first time mid August for 5 days on my way to Thailand. Been reading the reports for the better part of 6 weeks. Experienced hobbyist. Thanks to everyone for a very constructive non argumentative thread.
Is the Shinjuku neighborhood a good area to choose a hotel that is girl friendly? Near all that one can see from a mongering sightseeing standpoint? Any recommendations on a good 4 or 5 star hotel that allows guests. Maybe with a good breakfast?
Thanks in advance. Looking forward to Tokyo!!
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Question
[QUOTE=Kib123;2925080]This is a detailed perspective to help newbie mongers like me. Skip to the middle for just the mongering stuff.
Getting cash: Japan is surprisingly still cash heavy. As a foreigner you need considerable amount of cash for daily transactions such as taxi, public transport (bus / subway), many local restaurants, vending machines, some stores, etc. This is because foreign (sometimes any) credit cards are not accepted in such places. Also, most Japanese bank ATMs will not recognize foreign MC / Visa despite the logos stamped on them. After googling, I found that the good old American 7-11 (aka '7-Bank') is by far the best (cheapest and accessible) way to get cash with a foreign card. There is a 7-11 or two, or three at every corner, and their ATMs only charge a flat 220 yen (less than $1. 50) for any withdrawal above 10,000 yen (up to what your card / bank will allow).
Local transport: Extremely convenient via the most extensive (and busiest) subway system I have encountered, super easy to get to any mongering corner of the city. Make sure you purchase a Suica / Pasmo card which you can top up as needed for local transport within any city. However, only cash works for both purchase and top up for foreigners. Only the bullet train ticket counter accepted my foreign CC.
Hobby: I was very skeptical following countless reports that suggest major aversion to foreigners in Japan. Most experiences reported here (outright rejections, hefty foreigner 'tax') were not reassuring. However, Japan is far and expensive to get to, so I was determined to make the best of a bad situation. No way I was going home empty handed. I am not into street walkers or night clubs, I prefer established incalls or outcall. My experience in Tokyo is restricted to such, but I did venture into RLDs at night just for the fun. Incredibly clean and organized (like everything in Japan), the walk of shame you would feel elsewhere never kicks in.
Hentai-Tokyo was my original target based on insights from this forum, but as I was browsing for intel, I came across an ad for Tokyo Amateur Escorts ([URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/[/URL]), with a pricing structure that seemed more attractive, but no mention or reviews anywhere. I decided to pay them a visit and take one for the team if needed. They claim to only host Japanese girls, all under 25. Their website has very clear directions to their office near Shibuya subway station, but Google map will also take you there. The owner and his staff speak a bit of English, so easy to communicate. When I arrived the first time in late afternoon only 3 ladies were available despite lots listed on the website. All looked hot though. Another cause for concern is that when I made my choice, the owner shook his head and said 'no good', and suggested that I pick from the other 2, with a clear preference for one of them. My experiences with house recommendations around the world have been abysmal at best, so I was rather skeptical but did not wish to be impolite. Japanese are polite to a fault, so you feel a natural obligation to reciprocate. It was taking one for the team time.
Prices on their website are accurate, I opted for 65 min /21 k yen. Just remember you have to pay additional 2 k admission fee and another 2 k selection fee, whatever those mean. I guess it is a way for the house to make base revenue they don't have to split with the provider. After the (forced) 'selection' I was given a piece of paper (in Japanese) to take next door to the love motel (I think Onyx is the name), where I had to pay for the room separately. They had options for 60 min to 4 hours, I chose 90 min, paid (about 3 k) and got my key. They used the piece of paper I was given to coordinate the room number with the agency so the lady knows where to find me. Other agencies I visited (including Tokyo-Hentai) do it differently, the lady either meets you at the office or at a predetermined location near the office and you walk together (holding hands) to their default love motel. I guess this is part of the 'girlfriend experience'.
Anyway, back to the virgin experience. The room was small but clean and had all the essentials, a large screen TV, a toilet, a shower with bathtub, air conditioning (all 6 rooms I sessioned in at the Onyx were similar). The lady (going by Manami, [URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/%e6%a3%ae%e5%b7%9d%e3%81%be%e3%81%aa%e3%81%bf/[/URL]) knocked on the door after about 5 min. Young, hot, slender but shapely (feminine), tallish (about 5'6" almost modelesque. Spoke zero English, but very friendly personality and playful demeanor. My original skepticism began to melt instantly.
After a brief google translate chit chat, she prepared two cups of mouthwash and gave me one. We gargled and then she took me to the shower and washed me front and back, lingering as needed on the essentials. These women know how to take care of their men. The GFE that followed was top shelf, inexperience mixed with innocence that made the experience feel very genuine and sensual, my style exactly. The lady also thoroughly enjoys what she does and delivered one of the best experiences I have had to date, and the best on this trip. She is the only one I repeated with despite so many options I wanted to sample. The house got it right this time, and their subsequent recommendations were spot on!
My other experiences were variations of above. Only one lady seemed to do it as a job and I would never repeat with. The rest brought their 'A' game and delivered at a high level, like they really enjoyed what they do. Most of the ladies were also surprisingly true to age and appearance, especially Tokyo Amateur. Hentai ladies tended to be older than their posted photos / ages, but not by abnormal margins. I used them mostly in Osaka.
My average per session damage at Tokyo amateur was 28 K including room cost (about USD 180 at going exchange rate), and it was my favorite agency for various reasons. No attempt at upsell (Hentai especially liked annoying upsell), one simple price for all ladies, most accurate age / pic match, and best performance-price ratio (excellent based on the service I got). You can also book with them via whatsapp, where they send you pics of ladies available at your preferred time slot, and even make recommendations based on your prior choices or preference.
About Japanese women: Almost the opposite of what I was led to believe from reading numerous posts / blogs. I personally found them to be the most open-minded providers I have encountered anywhere in the world both in and out of the bedroom, by quite some margin. Brazilian women come a distant second in this regard. In terms of performance, the high level of A game they bring to the hobby is comparable only to the Brazilian women. While Brazilian women beat them in passion and PSE, they win hands down in overall GFE and sensuality.
About 6 out of 10 women I sessioned with insisted on walking me to either the main street or all the way to the subway (5 to 10 min walk) after the session, hand in hand. Talk about GFE! This was the case in both Tokyo and Osaka (yes, I sessioned there too), so it was apparently not a unique phenomenon. And I am as far removed from Japanese-looking as can be.
Useful tip: Do not pay for any upsell hoping to get better service. Let things flow organically in the room with the lady. Most of them won't disappoint you if you do your homework.
I wish Japan wasn't so damn expensive to travel to and board in. This would have been my favorite mongering destination in addition to Brazil.
Happy mongering my friends![/QUOTE]Kib123.
Where did you sessioned in Osaka?
Thanks.
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Oppai Pubs
Hi, I've been going Japan 20 for years, my account is actually that old but haven't logged in much. It's time to give back. I will write about oppai pubs first, but not sure how much interest there is so will keep it brief to start.
Shinjuku has the most and best oppai pubs. Translated "breast club", it is typically all-you-can-drink where girls come and sit and chat and you can kiss them or suck on their tits. Ask them to hop on. Other guys around are doing the same, it is semi-private. There are extra charges if you want to buy the girl a drink. The most common rate is for 40 minutes of drinking where 3 girls visit you, so maybe 10 minutes per girl. A typical "promo" rate is 8000 yen for that, discounted to 6000 yen if it is early (8/10pm). So I can have 1-3 beers at a fixed price, obviously the draw is the girl. The system is in contrast to kabakura clubs where you don't touch the girls and you might get 60 minutes for 4000 with 2 girls (cheaper and longer, but no touch just talk).
You can always get the promo rate by going to a "free information booth" in Shinjuku, most info booths are Japanese but these days at least one is English for foreigners. Some girls will give you a 3000 yen discount card for next time, use it if you like them. That discounts off the "regular rate" which varies by when you go. Usually cheaper than promo rate without discount, but then you get that girl on the card if she's working that day.
After 40 minutes you can extend, but the rates vary after that since 6000/8000 are sometimes promo rates to get you in. They have things like vip (pronounced veep) and other options that are much more expensive, for simps. Don't simp for a girl no matter how much you like her. Just see her again instead.
Since it is just breast play and kissing, the girls are generally young and attractive. Plenty of 20-23 year olds. 24 is considered old, I had a girl apologize for being 24. All are conventionally attractive, a few are very beautiful. It is not something you think about much, but girls in their 20's have much nicer skin and much better feeling natural breasts. No contest.
While it is always possible to get a young attractive girl at soapland, more often you are expecting a decent looking girl in her 30's if not MILF. Soapland to me is a novelty but not the main attraction of Japan. I had fun but simply not interested. But I can still answer any questions about them for those interested.
A new club called Leicester (pronounced as-if Lester in Japanese) gives you an idea of the girls working. The photos are real. The girls in-person have much less make up on than the ad, since it is not fun to kiss girls with make up. For example in the banner of girls, the 5th girl from the left with big smile is Uta. She is nice and friendly and quite forward:
[URL]https://www.cabaseku.jp/kanto/kabukichou/shop/1537/[/URL]
I liked Hazuki the most, but girls come and go in this business and I could not get her on my second visit:
[URL]https://www.cabaseku.jp/kanto/kabukichou/shop/1537/girl/93065/[/URL]
Don't go Leicester unless you can speak some Japanese. Foreigners are allowed if they can speak some Japanese and follow common sense rules. To give you an idea of how new this club is, they just opened two weeks ago. As I said it is a revolving door and it is not uncommon to meet a girl on her first or second day on the job, though most girls are regulars. Be respectful with your words and read her body language, every girl is different.
The most foreigner friendly one I know is Luxe:
[URL]https://luxe-shinjuku.jp[/URL]
At Luxe, most of the staff speak perfect English. Some obviously lived in the US and it is explicitly a foreigner-friendly club. I saw more foreigners than Japanese on a weekday but I'm sure it varies. As such, like all "tourist spots", it does mean it "isn't as good" as the Japanese-only clubs for reasons too long to get into. But I had lots of fun still, and I would recommend it if you have not done oppai pubs before. The girls are cool, every girl is very different, and it's like meeting Asian strippers but you get to kiss and suck on them freely with other people around doing the same to their girl. The girls are obviously used to foreigners here. As with any shop in the world, some girls are high service other girls are low service. Just how it is.
My favorite club is Hosekibako, but like Leicester you should speak enough Japanese to go:
[URL]https://www.hosekibako-shinjuku.com[/URL]
Unfortunately, Hosekibako's site won't let you explore the site and see the girls unless your internet is in Japan. The moment you land in Japan and use hotel or free wifi you can browse freely and see their girls. International roaming does NOT ping you as in Japan for these purposes. You'll know your internet is "in Japan" when you see Japanese ads on your youtube, reddit, etc. It's hilarious.
In my experience, it is more important that you are able to understand Japanese and follow common sense rules, than your own speaking ability. You cannot touch a girl's privates below the waist is the most important rule. Don't be rough with the girls obviously.
I have to keep things brief so some Japanese words. "Free" aka furee is the normal course when you see 3 random girls for 40 minutes, as opposed to "shimei" where you nominate/extend a specific girl you like by name. Before you go in, you gargle your mouth with mouthwash and spit it back into the cup and pour it down the drain. If it's your first time they explain the rules and upcharge options, which is what already I said plus the bare minimum of common sense like don't hurt girls. When you walk in they might ask about otearai which means if you need to use the bathroom. Daijoubu desu means you're good. When you sit they give you a towel and ask about "nomimono" which is what you want to drink. Beer is beeru. VIP is veep, don't pay for that. Most girls will ask if you'll buy them a drink, some guys do some guys don't - if I like a girl I do it's complicated to explain the pros and cons. Know how to ask or signal a girl to hop on you and show you her tits, I managed to ask that with 3 months of Japanese 20 years ago. Make an effort yourself.
If a girl is shy, I ask for permission even though the answer is always yes. If she is forward, just go at it.
I will write more if there is interest, or I can write guides on other shops or cities instead.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2927559]Hi, I've been going Japan 20 for years, my account is actually that old but haven't logged in much. It's time to give back. I will write about oppai pubs first, but not sure how much interest there is so will keep it brief to start..[/QUOTE]Hi,
Coming to Tokyo on 16th with family and would like to experience the Oppai Pub. Will be staying in Ikebukuro and would appreciate if any pointers can be provided.
I would prefer the pubs in Ikebukuro if there are any. The Luxe is pretty far and will raise eyebrows.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Malayil;2927611]Coming to Tokyo on 16th with family and would like to experience the Oppai Pub. Will be staying in Ikebukuro and would appreciate if any pointers can be provided.
I would prefer the pubs in Ikebukuro if there are any. The Luxe is pretty far and will raise eyebrows.[/QUOTE]There is a RLD in Ikebukuro but don't know much about it. However a sure tell is if you see a shop information center like Manzoku. It will say "18 years and up" on curtains so kids can't see inside, and have lots of posters of clubs. Any person in there would know exactly where you could go based on your interest and speaking ability. That's all they do.
The Manzoku info shops make money by introducing you to a shop. They aren't affiliated with the shop, never had a problem with them and they are upfront with accurate info. The pros outweigh the cons in my opinion. Don't talk to black or Chinese touts for sex services in my opinion. I walk past them and ignore them completely so they can focus on the next foreigner.
Anyways, if I went to Housekibako myself without any coupons, I would pay between 6000 to 10000 yen. Manzoku's promo rate is always either as good or better than that, whether 6000 or 8000, and either they walk you to the shop or the shop sends their own guy to pick you up on foot. You might be able to find a slightly better deal online through Housekibako's own website by an online coupon, but there are many hurdles to that so I don't even bother. It turns out that no matter how expensive a club is, every shop honors the Manzoku rate. Once you go to a shop, most girls give you their card which is then going to be slightly cheaper for your 2nd visit. However, for your 3rd visit or if you don't want to use that girls card, you can go through Manzoku again. I was upfront that it's my 2nd time and so was Manzoku when calling the shop and there was no problem (clubs compete against each other so they'd rather have you than not unless they're packed). But I try not to overdo that and go direct to the club if I know their formula rate is just the same as Manzoku.
To your last comment, you probably shouldn't go to the RLD after all. You are only allowed to have 1 problem at a time like "I don't have enough time", "I can't get caught", etc. But not 2 at the same time. You may think you have just enough time but then realize that one girl wore a strong smell that is now all over you and your shirt. 10 out of 12 girls I saw had no smell, 2 did! God damn what do I do now, it's the weirdest thing to think after you just had an amazing time with women. You get the idea.
Wipes from a combini might help with your skin and the smell off your shirt might be gone in 12 to 48 hours if you hide it that long. But as you can see the "I don't have enough time" clashes with "I can't get caught" issue. If it was just one of those two I could tell you the easy solution. Not both!
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2927559]Hi, I've been going Japan 20 for years, my account is actually that old but haven't logged in much. It's time to give back. I will write about oppai pubs first, but not sure how much interest there is so will keep it brief to start.
Shinjuku has the most and best oppai pubs. Translated "breast club", it is typically all-you-can-drink where girls come and sit and chat and you can kiss them or suck on their tits. Ask them to hop on. Other guys around are doing the same, it is semi-private. There are extra charges if you want to buy the girl a drink. The most common rate is for 40 minutes of drinking where 3 girls visit you, so maybe 10 minutes per girl. A typical "promo" rate is 8000 yen for that, discounted to 6000 yen if it is early (8/10pm). So I can have 1-3 beers at a fixed price, obviously the draw is the girl. The system is in contrast to kabakura clubs where you don't touch the girls and you might get 60 minutes for 4000 with 2 girls (cheaper and longer, but no touch just talk).
You can always get the promo rate by going to a "free information booth" in Shinjuku, most info booths are Japanese but these days at least one is English for foreigners. Some girls will give you a 3000 yen discount card for next time, use it if you like them. That discounts off the "regular rate" which varies by when you go. Usually cheaper than promo rate without discount, but then you get that girl on the card if she's working that day.
After 40 minutes you can extend, but the rates vary after that since 6000/8000 are sometimes promo rates to get you in. They have things like vip (pronounced veep) and other options that are much more expensive, for simps. Don't simp for a girl no matter how much you like her. Just see her again instead.
Since it is just breast play and kissing, the girls are generally young and attractive. Plenty of 20-23 year olds. 24 is considered old, I had a girl apologize for being 24. All are conventionally attractive, a few are very beautiful. It is not something you think about much, but girls in their 20's have much nicer skin and much better feeling natural breasts. No contest.
While it is always possible to get a young attractive girl at soapland, more often you are expecting a decent looking girl in her 30's if not MILF. Soapland to me is a novelty but not the main attraction of Japan. I had fun but simply not interested. But I can still answer any questions about them for those interested.
A new club called Leicester (pronounced as-if Lester in Japanese) gives you an idea of the girls working. The photos are real. The girls in-person have much less make up on than the ad, since it is not fun to kiss girls with make up. For example in the banner of girls, the 5th girl from the left with big smile is Uta. She is nice and friendly and quite forward:
[URL]https://www.cabaseku.jp/kanto/kabukichou/shop/1537/[/URL]
I liked Hazuki the most, but girls come and go in this business and I could not get her on my second visit:
[URL]https://www.cabaseku.jp/kanto/kabukichou/shop/1537/girl/93065/[/URL]
Don't go Leicester unless you can speak some Japanese. Foreigners are allowed if they can speak some Japanese and follow common sense rules. To give you an idea of how new this club is, they just opened two weeks ago. As I said it is a revolving door and it is not uncommon to meet a girl on her first or second day on the job, though most girls are regulars. Be respectful with your words and read her body language, every girl is different.
The most foreigner friendly one I know is Luxe:
[URL]https://luxe-shinjuku.jp[/URL]
At Luxe, most of the staff speak perfect English. Some obviously lived in the US and it is explicitly a foreigner-friendly club. I saw more foreigners than Japanese on a weekday but I'm sure it varies. As such, like all "tourist spots", it does mean it "isn't as good" as the Japanese-only clubs for reasons too long to get into. But I had lots of fun still, and I would recommend it if you have not done oppai pubs before. The girls are cool, every girl is very different, and it's like meeting Asian strippers but you get to kiss and suck on them freely with other people around doing the same to their girl. The girls are obviously used to foreigners here. As with any shop in the world, some girls are high service other girls are low service. Just how it is.
My favorite club is Hosekibako, but like Leicester you should speak enough Japanese to go:
[URL]https://www.hosekibako-shinjuku.com[/URL]
Unfortunately, Hosekibako's site won't let you explore the site and see the girls unless your internet is in Japan. The moment you land in Japan and use hotel or free wifi you can browse freely and see their girls. International roaming does NOT ping you as in Japan for these purposes. You'll know your internet is "in Japan" when you see Japanese ads on your youtube, reddit, etc. It's hilarious.
In my experience, it is more important that you are able to understand Japanese and follow common sense rules, than your own speaking ability. You cannot touch a girl's privates below the waist is the most important rule. Don't be rough with the girls obviously.
I have to keep things brief so some Japanese words. "Free" aka furee is the normal course when you see 3 random girls for 40 minutes, as opposed to "shimei" where you nominate/extend a specific girl you like by name. Before you go in, you gargle your mouth with mouthwash and spit it back into the cup and pour it down the drain. If it's your first time they explain the rules and upcharge options, which is what already I said plus the bare minimum of common sense like don't hurt girls. When you walk in they might ask about otearai which means if you need to use the bathroom. Daijoubu desu means you're good. When you sit they give you a towel and ask about "nomimono" which is what you want to drink. Beer is beeru. VIP is veep, don't pay for that. Most girls will ask if you'll buy them a drink, some guys do some guys don't - if I like a girl I do it's complicated to explain the pros and cons. Know how to ask or signal a girl to hop on you and show you her tits, I managed to ask that with 3 months of Japanese 20 years ago. Make an effort yourself.
If a girl is shy, I ask for permission even though the answer is always yes. If she is forward, just go at it.
I will write more if there is interest, or I can write guides on other shops or cities instead.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review of everything in. I live in Japan but haven't tried these clubs yet was curious on Luxe it has a VIP room. Does getting the VIP give you anything extra or is it just litterly a private room. Also have you ever gotten a girls contact and been able to see her outside of the club.
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[QUOTE=David032;2927679]Thanks for the review of everything in. I live in Japan but haven't tried these clubs yet was curious on Luxe it has a VIP room. Does getting the VIP give you anything extra or is it just litterly a private room. Also have you ever gotten a girls contact and been able to see her outside of the club.[/QUOTE]I believe every club has a VIP room. VIP is a completely private booth where other customers can't see unless they walk by and peek. So no door but good enough - the perfect balance of safety for the girl and illusion of naughtiness. It costs roughly 3 times as much. Let me work backwards from there and say there is nothing a girl could do to be worth 24000 en for 40 minutes. I have other options for that. In my experience with such things you'd pay 3 times as much and get either exactly the same service (but with privacy) or 2 times the service. Depending on the girl. That's a recipe for disappointment when you pay and get the same exact service sometimes.
It's up to the girl and the staff wouldn't know and it is in their own interest not to know. But my experience with this is some girls will simply give you way better service on the floor than a different girl in a VIP booth. That is way too common. Put your effort in finding a high service girl, than taking some girl you like into VIP and praying she somehow becomes a high service girl. I wouldn't expect it.
Let me point out that at kabakura it's 1/2 the cost and you can't touch the girl, just talk. After all, you are only paying them to talk! So does it make any sense to go to a kabakura and try to kiss the girl and make her go topless? You get thrown out. Just go to an oppai club if you want to do that. So let's take this further. There are literally already clubs where you can touch a girl's bottom parts all you want. Usually butt naked. I went to one called Hadaka no Ousama (the Emperor with no clothes). So it is just a silly thing to try to take an in-between oppai club and then make the girl perform those bottomless services when you aren't paying them to. VIP does not entitle you to anything at all. Go to that next level club instead.
The real purpose if VIP is simping. You show off to a girl how much money you are willing to spend on her, even though she doesn't actually like you. Just want to spell it out real clear there. Believe me, I can spend as much as I like but don't see the appeal of paying a lot more to get a little more, when I could just pay less to get a lot more elsewhere. These clubs count on normal guys walking in and falling in love and spending more than they expect. That's why they offer such cheap intro rates. They know 9 out of 10 guys come in, have fun, and don't come back. That's cool with them. But they're looking for that 1 guy who keeps coming back and dumping all they have on a girl.
Buying a girl a drink is somewhere between 2400 and 2900 depending on a club (at kabakura it was 1400 to 1900). I don't mind doing it if I confirm I like the girl first. For some girls it clearly improves mileage but for others it does not. But by that I mean in most cases they are already high mileage and doing everything I want, so all the more reason for me to buy them a drink! I am not some guy who tricks girls into giving me a good time, if she goes out of her way even though I haven't bought her a drink yet then I am buying her a drink without her even asking. Yes a few girls are simply low mileage, but that is not common and is a sign that she is very new.
At least half of customers don't buy drinks. If you genuinely can't afford it then don't buy the drinks and you will still have fun.
Most girls will give you their contact info, it's all too common now. But the purpose of that is to get you to come back to the club. They are doing it with dozens of other guys. You are not special even if you simp for her. There are multiple simps per girl, remember. Notice how easy it is to get their contact info, that says everything. Even 20 years ago some girl I saw one time sent me a super nice message saying she misses me. I know I saw her but then realize I can't even remember her. Think about that. Do not have illusions.
I find when you really like a girl, suddenly it becomes possible for a girl to trick you into thinking she likes you. Even though it is so obvious to anyone else that she could not. Just don't. Why would an amazingly beautiful 20 year old girl be into you just because you saw her at an oppai club and licked her tits for money. Come on.
Just to be clear only 2 out of 12 girls I saw were amazingly beautiful. The other 10 ranged from cute or conventionally attractive to hot but not quite amazing. No average looking girl or any girl over 24. I'm sure they exist.
So anyways let me warn you how common it is to get a girl's contact info so you lose interest in that idea too. I mean if you like getting a message or three by all means but there are a lot of people where a random LINE message like that showing up on your phone screen would be..inconvenient.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2927688]I believe every club has a VIP room. VIP is a completely private booth where other customers can't see unless they walk by and peek. So no door but good enough - the perfect balance of safety for the girl and illusion of naughtiness. It costs roughly 3 times as much. Let me work backwards from there and say there is nothing a girl could do to be worth 24000 en for 40 minutes. I have other options for that. In my experience with such things you'd pay 3 times as much and get either exactly the same service (but with privacy) or 2 times the service. Depending on the girl. That's a recipe for disappointment when you pay and get the same exact service sometimes.
It's up to the girl and the staff wouldn't know and it is in their own interest not to know. But my experience with this is some girls will simply give you way better service on the floor than a different girl in a VIP booth. That is way too common. Put your effort in finding a high service girl, than taking some girl you like into VIP and praying she somehow becomes a high service girl. I wouldn't expect it.
Let me point out that at kabakura it's 1/2 the cost and you can't touch the girl, just talk. After all, you are only paying them to talk! So does it make any sense to go to a kabakura and try to kiss the girl and make her go topless? You get thrown out. Just go to an oppai club if you want to do that. So let's take this further. There are literally already clubs where you can touch a girl's bottom parts all you want. Usually butt naked. I went to one called Hadaka no Ousama (the Emperor with no clothes). So it is just a silly thing to try to take an in-between oppai club and then make the girl perform those bottomless services when you aren't paying them to. VIP does not entitle you to anything at all. Go to that next level club instead.
The real purpose if VIP is simping. You show off to a girl how much money you are willing to spend on her, even though she doesn't actually like you. Just want to spell it out real clear there. Believe me, I can spend as much as I like but don't see the appeal of paying a lot more to get a little more, when I could just pay less to get a lot more elsewhere. These clubs count on normal guys walking in and falling in love and spending more than they expect. That's why they offer such cheap intro rates. They know 9 out of 10 guys come in, have fun, and don't come back. That's cool with them. But they're looking for that 1 guy who keeps coming back and dumping all they have on a girl.
Buying a girl a drink is somewhere between 2400 and 2900 depending on a club (at kabakura it was 1400 to 1900). I don't mind doing it if I confirm I like the girl first. For some girls it clearly improves mileage but for others it does not. But by that I mean in most cases they are already high mileage and doing everything I want, so all the more reason for me to buy them a drink! I am not some guy who tricks girls into giving me a good time, if she goes out of her way even though I haven't bought her a drink yet then I am buying her a drink without her even asking. Yes a few girls are simply low mileage, but that is not common and is a sign that she is very new.
At least half of customers don't buy drinks. If you genuinely can't afford it then don't buy the drinks and you will still have fun.
Most girls will give you their contact info, it's all too common now. But the purpose of that is to get you to come back to the club. They are doing it with dozens of other guys. You are not special even if you simp for her. There are multiple simps per girl, remember. Notice how easy it is to get their contact info, that says everything. Even 20 years ago some girl I saw one time sent me a super nice message saying she misses me. I know I saw her but then realize I can't even remember her. Think about that. Do not have illusions.
I find when you really like a girl, suddenly it becomes possible for a girl to trick you into thinking she likes you. Even though it is so obvious to anyone else that she could not. Just don't. Why would an amazingly beautiful 20 year old girl be into you just because you saw her at an oppai club and licked her tits for money. Come on.
Just to be clear only 2 out of 12 girls I saw were amazingly beautiful. The other 10 ranged from cute or conventionally attractive to hot but not quite amazing. No average looking girl or any girl over 24. I'm sure they exist.
So anyways let me warn you how common it is to get a girl's contact info so you lose interest in that idea too. I mean if you like getting a message or three by all means but there are a lot of people where a random LINE message like that showing up on your phone screen would be..inconvenient.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response, I am different than most guys LOL cost isn't that big of a deal for me. I have all the cheaper options mapped out if I ever need them. I like the chase and also maybe the ability to do something in the VIP room that normally doesn't happen. From your wording the possiblity is there, but more than likely it would cost extra on top of the VIP room. I might give it a try sometime.
The reason I asked about contact information is because most places out right ban there girls from giving out contact information. So knowing if it's allowed tells me to ask if I decided. Either being blunt or being discreet about it. Don't worry harbor no illusions about getting contact info. I have the contact info for several soapland and deari girls and I know. I message them and see them outside of there service. So my purpose in getting contact info is to attempt to smash outside of the place itself. I am an old hand at this just never tried this because I never thought it could lead to more. But it sounds like there is an opportunity for more.
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[QUOTE=David032;2927703]Thanks for the response, I am different than most guys LOL cost isn't that big of a deal for me. I have all the cheaper options mapped out if I ever need them. I like the chase and also maybe the ability to do something in the VIP room that normally doesn't happen. From your wording the possiblity is there, but more than likely it would cost extra on top of the VIP room. I might give it a try sometime.
The reason I asked about contact information is because most places out right ban there girls from giving out contact information. So knowing if it's allowed tells me to ask if I decided. Either being blunt or being discreet about it. Don't worry harbor no illusions about getting contact info. I have the contact info for several soapland and deari girls and I know. I message them and see them outside of there service. So my purpose in getting contact info is to attempt to smash outside of the place itself. I am an old hand at this just never tried this because I never thought it could lead to more. But it sounds like there is an opportunity for more.[/QUOTE]So yes, VIP is an option for you. The reason I didn't go into more detail on my own experience is it super YMMV what happens, one girl does the exact same service another girl will let you do more. I don't want to recommend something as random as that when I think people are guaranteed a good time going with the normal base course, and it's frankly quite cheap for what you get in my opinion. Believe me, I used to try and date women who weren't anywhere the same league as these girls, not even close. Didn't get a kiss more often than not, not that I'd expect it. Why bother when you can pay to win and just expect it. It is incredibly cheap when you compare that.
I also don't want to spoil a good thing by suggesting to customers to try things they aren't allowed, giving girls who don't want it a hard time over it. They'll just ban foreigners if enough of us do that.
In Nagoya oppai pubs the VIP wasn't ridiculous like in Shinjuku, just a little more. But this was 20 years ago and the simping business model wasn't much a thing back then. Now it is everywhere. Pay just to impress a girl and hope for the best. Rather than say I got more mileage in VIP, what I did was identified the one girl that already gave me high mileage and would clearly give me more in a private VIP, and I took her. That works, and that's the only way I'd recommend. Don't take a girl you like to VIP expecting her to do more, she might not.
Exchanging contact is completely out in the open at Luxe and Housekibako. Completely shameless. I didn't see it in Lester but probably just because I couldn't see other customers where they seated me both times (it's random).
I understand the idea at a soapland, if I exchanged contact with such a girl it would be clear what it was for (or at least what I was trying). She is already having sex with you, so asking her sex elsewhere is cool. Converting a girl who gives light service into full sex is not the same thing. A girl might do that under the table but she probably doesn't.
Keep in mind the whole reason young cute girls gravitate to low mileage bars like girls bars is precisely because they don't want to or have to put out. Oppai pubs are right in the middle of these two extremes but since they are filled with young cute girls the chance is low. And as I pointed out since it is customary here to exchange info, that itself tells you enough. Keep in mind the whole business model attracts stalkers - unlike soapland where they already bang every guy any time any day. So I think it's a waste of time.
Anyways, exchanging info this is a change in trends where yes in the past many shops banned it. But now shops realize if it's going to happen anyways and they can't stop it, they should instead allow or encourage it but train the girls to weaponize it. I woudln't be surprised if a few shops shared credentials with the girls so they can bring in customers. Especially since girls quit all the time. In fact I'm sure a few shops do exactly that, even though most probably don't bother and have the girls do all the baiting. It's basic marketing.
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Handjob
I have been reading the thread, and it seems like there are not many who is like me, a person who is happy with a skilled handjob. It seems that in Shinjuku area, the stablishment "Lovely Hands" is going to satisfy me in that regard?
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[QUOTE=Tommyh80;2928083]I have been reading the thread, and it seems like there are not many who is like me, a person who is happy with a skilled handjob. It seems that in Shinjuku area, the stablishment "Lovely Hands" is going to satisfy me in that regard?[/QUOTE]There are a lot of people like you. You have your choice of a legit Japanese establishment with Japanese girls, or take your chances with Chinese / other girls. I would always recommend the former, you get better service and the latter is usually not a legit establishment and I don't like taking that small chance. Chinese shops are often not labeled or underground (out of an apartment), probably for tax/visa reasons (it is legal to give handjobs for money in Japan, but Chinese shops are often not legal for other reasons)
I have several reasons for no longer getting handjobs that may help set realistic expectations. First, I was just curious and when seeing a Chinese girl I actually found attractive (not that often), I went with her after she approached me. Second, I prefer a cute young girl, no interest in older less attractive women. Only New Hot Point ever had cute young girls in my experience, and they're closed. Last, the best way to get a good handjob or blowjob from a young attractive girl is to just order FS from a young attractive girl in the first place. Preferably a repeat visit to someone you already know. I have my goto place in the US for that. That's why I only care about oppai pubs in Japan. So to set realistic expectations I would mention that not many handjob places have many young cute girls since NHP. But if anyone knows, let me know IMMEDIATELY. I will be first in line.
Never follow a black tout, way too many reports of scams and crimes not just that I've read but have heard of from others and even seen with my own eyes. They hang around specifically tourist-heavy areas and speak English towards foreigners. I suppose many of them must point out actual establishments but those range from non-Japanese to outright scams. But it appears they scam someone every day. So count yourself lucky if you used them and you were the others they actually helped. I just walk past them and ignore them, this is Japan they are smart not to do anything others can see. In the non-RLD districts black touts will direct you to legit foreigner establishments such as Roppongi clubs. That's fine, I'm talking about for example Kabukicho where I have heard they scam someone every day and have read official warnings from Japan and the US consulate about it.
You can see reviews for Lovely Hands online at multiple sites. I have not gone but I see those same sites have accurately reviewed New Hot Point, which I know is great, so no reason to doubt the info. Too bad NHP was closed in 2019 or I would be writing a full page guide on it right now because that is the only place that rivals the oppai pubs. They actually had only hot young girls give the handjobs or blowjobs. Most places have older or regular looking women. I suppose the problem with NHP is every customer was coming for Haruka who is a perfect 10, so when she and her friend retired they just had to close. That's why we can't have nice things with that business model, it is really hard to find a perfect 10 girl who is willing to handjob or blowjob every guy that walks in. What a champ.
If you'd like insight on Chinese massage girls, they call out 'massagu' to people walking by. Most will only give a massage at an actual establishment, a few will give a handjob often at an underground location - an apartment when I tried it. I've tried both. To be clear when a girl says she will give me a massage, she only gives me a massage. When she says she will give me a handjob, she gives me a handjob. Every girl did as promised. I'd say 90% or more girls calling out massagu only give massage. See my Nagoya post for how I know, I speak Chinese almost as well as Japanese.
See my posts in Nagoya for information on Chinese massage girls in Nagoya. I have recent posts too, but there is also a post from 20 years ago I forgot about! It brings a tear to my eye to see how I have moved on from handjobs by strangers to snacking on cute college girls 3 at a go.
Massage girls on the street exist in Yokohama and Tokyo too, in Tokyo I saw many in Roppongi but there's probably a better station I don't know about. Hope someone else can chime in and give a hand!
Attached are photos of Haruka and Lemon and Milk, blowjob/handjob girls from NHP. Girls in their 20s and beautiful. Yes, I really did get my dick sucked by these two girls and several others. In Haruka's case, many many times. It still blows my mind that I was able to all these years later, since I knew other clubs didn't have this (but were much cheaper). I also tried the handjob course as well as the flashlight course. NHP was not actually a handjob club, it was a strip club that offered handjobs. Likewise, in Osaka I went to Hadaka no Ousama which also had decently cute girls that gave blowjobs and let you finger them. That goes to my earlier thesis that you can get cute girls to suck your dick, but you don't go to a blowjob bar to get it (NHP is a strip club, Hadaka is a finger bang club).
I want to be really clear that I would not expect such cute girls if I walked into a handjob club in Japan. At a handjob club I expect an average looking woman, probably mid-30s based on reports of other shops. Please prove me wrong. Let me know immediately so I can go too.
So do not expect these girls below:
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Hello fellow mongers,
What are the chances to get laid in Tokyo for free, with little or no Japanese? I am from Europe, looking in my 30, and decent looking. I have seen many interviews, and Japanese women seem all desperate to date foreigners. Does anyone of you have any free, no pay, experience in Tokyo / Osaka? I'll be there for at least a month.
Thanks.
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Decent chance
[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2928143]Hello fellow mongers,
What are the chances to get laid in Tokyo for free, with little or no Japanese? I am from Europe, looking in my 30, and decent looking. I have seen many interviews, and Japanese women seem all desperate to date foreigners. Does anyone of you have any free, no pay, experience in Tokyo / Osaka? I'll be there for at least a month.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Honestly an incredibly high chance I don't do it any more for two reason one I am old and fat now and two I have entanglements that make it difficult. You want to go to a HUB. It's a known hook up pick up spot. There are couple of other places but I am not familiar with them.
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Any suggestions for the best ride sharing and translation apps?
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[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2928143]Hello fellow mongers,
What are the chances to get laid in Tokyo for free, with little or no Japanese? I am from Europe, looking in my 30, and decent looking. I have seen many interviews, and Japanese women seem all desperate to date foreigners. Does anyone of you have any free, no pay, experience in Tokyo / Osaka? I'll be there for at least a month.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]This is too complicated to explain in one post. If you make the effort and take the time, you can do it. If you don't, then based on what you said you won't. In "30's and decent looking" combined with "no Japanese" means you have to make up for it in time and effort. Even a very charming and attractive European will need to at least try. Unless you are at the right place with the context of pickup being an option (ex. A club area), no women will even talk to you no matter how attractive you are. Whereas at the right place, even a more average looking guy has a chance but no woman is going to be clamoring for him. He has to demonstrate value.
I have very extensive experience dating Japanese women. It is a misconception that "Japanese women seem all desperate to date foreigners" that's total BS. 90% of Japanese women won't touch foreign men and will run. But 10% of Japanese women is 6 million people. But narrowing it down (exclude too young and old, those in secure relationships, etc.) and making the right approach at the right place is everything. It is everything. Find the right girl and focus on her, don't try to put a circle peg in a square hole. Even if a Japanese woman is interested in foreigners, she is probably not interested in you.
For the "just for fun" completely cold approach (walk up to a girl you like) I and my friends had the most success at Roppongi at night around or in the club areas. Friday and Saturday nights have the crowds. I do not want to set unrealistic expectations by talking about our experiences. You see, we made the effort. We made the best of what we had. We demonstrated value. In fact I knew what my friend liked and after chatting with many girls at a club I said to one girl she would like my friend (true). They ended up dating. You cannot force two people to be a match, they are either going to like each other and be each other's "type" or not. Even when you see a guy pick up a girl for fun, there is a mutual benefit that may be hard to see. One way or another that guy is her type or idea of fun.
That friend of mine actually brought along another friend that same night and introduced me. He was very conventionally handsome. However, he was very shy. He was nervous just talking about going to the club (first time). As a result, he got exactly nothing despite me trying several times to get him to talk to a girl I just met. Well, he did get something. The power of experience for next time where he might succeed. Anyways, you have to make the effort! He knew where he was at, he was still young, but he was afraid to talk to women like many of us were when younger. So there you have it, it is not one thing that does it but you have to offer something. I would not say it is easy.
Others might chime in on better ways to just bang for free. It happens all the time but is not easy like guys brag about. I suppose I was looking for girls to bang and also hang out with, so I cared a lot about things like personality and looks. So if your standards are loose there might be clubs that focus just on that. Or online, it works but it takes effort and has its own issues.
There is a difference between "just for fun" and "actually dating" Japanese women. Complete opposite approach. If you are sincere and actually looking for a real girlfriend, you could find them in your friend circle through work, school, hobby. Or go with friends to a club like the ones in Roppongi. At least one if not all of you should be decent at approaching women with the "cold approach" method. I have not tried the "club for sex" method because I don't think I'd meet a girl I'd like there. I don't think you would either. Otherwise there'd be a line out the door. It is a niche.
I have met women "just for sex" but it is not simple or easy. It takes work and practice. There was no formula or steps to follow for that to happen, I met the girl completely naturally. If you are in Japan a month that might never happen. The whole point of paying for play is it is consistent, if there was a reliable way to play for free nobody would pay for it.
Unfortunately most guys aren't sincere so I am reluctant to write a guide. I care about Japanese women believe it or not, they have done more for me than any Western women even knows how. If you are going "just for fun" don't pretend too hard otherwise or you will hurt a girl more. Best if the girl understands you are there for fun, maybe something more could happen, but you are just there "to meet people". Women are not going to bang for nothing unless you are extremely attractive / charming. In that case they are not banging for nothing, either.
The whole reason I go to oppai pubs and p4p is I do not like "dating women for fun" and hurting their feelings by playing with them. As I said, I am not some guy who tricks women into showing me a good time with nothing good enough in return. Me and my other riend have done that unintentionally with our ex girlfriends when young and we don't like it.
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[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2928143]What are the chances to get laid in Tokyo for free, with little or no Japanese? [/QUOTE]I was going to take a guy an American guy around Japan cause at first he said he loved Japan culture. Then as I talked to him more turns out he had the same misconception you have that he will be able to bang Japanese girls for free because he's American. I rolled my eyes, said he can go ahead and try while I'm enjoying a nice dinner somewhere else. Imo being gaijin in Japan is a huge negative, not a positive.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2928219]Imo being gaijin in Japan is a huge negative, not a positive.[/QUOTE]I agree with this 100%. I had to try 10 x as hard as a Japanese guy to get a date with the same girl. So I did. Do not come on strong, that is repulsive. Trying hard means putting effort into yourself, your look, your behavior, your skills and assets. You have to have basic cultural sensitivity to succeed. Be a true gentleman if you want to thrive.
There is no point in even trying to date Japanese women unless you actually prefer them. I do, so that's why I'm willing to try 10 times as hard as most people. I learned Japanese mainly so I can date Japanese women. It's not worth it if you prefer other women.
90% of girls are not even going to consider you an option. Of the 10%, well since I am decent looking but not especially attractive, only 10% of them would even consider me. I can work with that 1%. I use my many other talents and assets. Since I genuinely like women, it is easy for me to have a conversation with many women without the context of expecting anything from them. That's what a gentleman does. I talk to grandmas, guys, anyone where the situation is appropriate. I do not approach grandmas or mothers but the situation comes up naturally. I'm not asking anything from them. If you behave with good manners it's a pleasure. I am confident, well dressed, and behave well so it does not raise alarms with women. Then when occasionally I talk with a woman of the right age who gives me the right signs, I decide if I like her or not and move from there. Be prepared to talk to hundreds of people, some of them women, this way. A person who does it differently than this is just doing nampa and will get what that gets. Go ahead but I don't recommend it and I won't help you.
Next step is to find the right venue where you maximize compatible women to meet so that you are allowed to naturally approach them, such as a club. Do not approach women who have no choice, such as the lady working at Starbucks. Don't be that guy, just do it the right way. As I said, I know a lot of guys aren't sincere so I am not going to give tips on nampa. I know it's going to happen but it's one reason Japanese women don't take foreigners seriously. That's why I suggest Roppongi because at least that's 50-50 GF / nampa where you might actually meet a girlfriend or someone who wants some fun (you are not going to find many girls who 100% want one or the other there). Just don't pretend to be something you're not and hurt someone. That's bad form no matter the country.
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If you like Japanese girls there is a simplier way to get them than being a "gentleman" and having to learn the language.
Just go to Dubai: [URL]https://vip-dubai-bunnies.com/girls/japanese-escorts-in-dubai-uae/[/URL].
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2928226]I agree with this 100%. I had to try 10 x as hard as a Japanese guy to get a date with the same girl. So I did. Do not come on strong, that is repulsive. Trying hard means putting effort into yourself, your look, your behavior, your skills and assets. You have to have basic cultural sensitivity to succeed. Be a true gentleman if you want to thrive.
There is no point in even trying to date Japanese women unless you actually prefer them. I do, so that's why I'm willing to try 10 times as hard as most people. I learned Japanese mainly so I can date Japanese women. It's not worth it if you prefer other women.
90% of girls are not even going to consider you an option. Of the 10%, well since I am decent looking but not especially attractive, only 10% of them would even consider me. I can work with that 1%. I use my many other talents and assets. Since I genuinely like women, it is easy for me to have a conversation with many women without the context of expecting anything from them. That's what a gentleman does. I talk to grandmas, guys, anyone where the situation is appropriate. I do not approach grandmas or mothers but the situation comes up naturally. I'm not asking anything from them. If you behave with good manners it's a pleasure. I am confident, well dressed, and behave well so it does not raise alarms with women. Then when occasionally I talk with a woman of the right age who gives me the right signs, I decide if I like her or not and move from there. Be prepared to talk to hundreds of people, some of them women, this way. A person who does it differently than this is just doing nampa and will get what that gets. Go ahead but I don't recommend it and I won't help you.
Next step is to find the right venue where you maximize compatible women to meet so that you are allowed to naturally approach them, such as a club. Do not approach women who have no choice, such as the lady working at Starbucks. Don't be that guy, just do it the right way. As I said, I know a lot of guys aren't sincere so I am not going to give tips on nampa. I know it's going to happen but it's one reason Japanese women don't take foreigners seriously. That's why I suggest Roppongi because at least that's 50-50 GF / nampa where you might actually meet a girlfriend or someone who wants some fun (you are not going to find many girls who 100% want one or the other there). Just don't pretend to be something you're not and hurt someone. That's bad form no matter the country.[/QUOTE]Don't take this the wrong way but if you struggled that hard and spoke Japanese the problem might be you. That or your location. Honestly I have dated in Japan and have had none of the issues you mentioned. It got easier as my Japanese got better. You either need to change something with your approach or something. Even with as fat as I am I can go to the HUB in Shibuya and pull something 50% of the time. Me and a friend joke Japan is a steal your girl country. We have both lost count of how many girls who had boyfriend's and we're married hooked up with us with ease.
I have lost count of how many girls working girls I have gotten the number of or dated. The more I read I think your approach to girls might be off.
Now if you walk out expecting girls just to flock with you cause your a foreigner or ganjin yeah not going to happen. But if you go looking with minimal effort you should find something. Hell I am baning a soapland girl for free because she thought I was a nice guy. I went out to grab sushi and a drink one time ended up at karaoke with three girls slept with one.
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[QUOTE=David032;2928269]Don't take this the wrong way but if you struggled that hard and spoke Japanese the problem might be you. That or your location. Honestly I have dated in Japan and have had none of the issues you mentioned. It got easier as my Japanese got better. You either need to change something with your approach or something. Even with as fat as I am I can go to the HUB in Shibuya and pull something 50% of the time. Me and a friend joke Japan is a steal your girl country. We have both lost count of how many girls who had boyfriend's and we're married hooked up with us with ease.
I have lost count of how many girls working girls I have gotten the number of or dated. The more I read I think your approach to girls might be off.
Now if you walk out expecting girls just to flock with you cause your a foreigner or ganjin yeah not going to happen. But if you go looking with minimal effort you should find something. Hell I am baning a soapland girl for free because she thought I was a nice guy. I went out to grab sushi and a drink one time ended up at karaoke with three girls slept with one.[/QUOTE]I don't disagree with many of the points you've made, though I consider it unrealistic for most people. So you may have really confused what I said. No need to make a contest about this.
You are talking for example about hookups going to a hookup bar. I'm not interested as I said, with exceptions it's just a waste of my time. In my travels I rejected a lot of women. If I wasn't particular, I would have had way more women and I don't want that.
Maybe that wasn't clear to you or just hard to accept that I want something very different. I don't consider quantity to have any merit. But if you consider it to be the only measure of worth I have probably had a lot more women than you thanks to p4p. And that is all I'm here to help people with, so they can do the same, not to brag and tell people it's going to be easy.
The only reason I wrote anything at all about meeting women is someone asked for help. It's good you gave your thoughts as well. We need different perspectives. These talks should be about what will work for other people, not about me. I think your ideas will help some people, and so will mine.
So there is no need for you to say I am doing something wrong. I don't judge others but it would be too easy for me to say you are doing it wrong. I don't because I recognize you are enjoying what you do, the same that I enjoy what I'm doing.
When I compare the fun and caliber of women I've had through meeting women vs p4p, it's not even close. Yes there are a few exceptions I treasure, but by and large the ladies aren't in the same league or even close to the same league. To be fair I am going to romance a woman closer to my age and enjoy her company. And I am going to want to bang a younger and more beautiful woman, too. So we need both types of women, civvie and p4p.
I could have easily written my posts about oppai pubs and meeting women as only positives and leaving out the negatives to set realistic expectations. I didn't. I feel your post really does. It reads "A fat foreigner can go to Japan and steal its women". I know what you meant, however do you get that? It's not about you or me but what some guy in his 20s reading this will think and do next. You and I were both there at some point in our lives. There are not enough of us in this world so let's not fight. Let's just help them.
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[QUOTE=David032;2928269]Don't take this the wrong way but if you struggled that hard and spoke Japanese the problem might be you. That or your location. Honestly I have dated in Japan and have had none of the issues you mentioned. It got easier as my Japanese got better. You either need to change something with your approach or something. Even with as fat as I am I can go to the HUB in Shibuya and pull something 50% of the time. Me and a friend joke Japan is a steal your girl country. We have both lost count of how many girls who had boyfriend's and we're married hooked up with us with ease.
I have lost count of how many girls working girls I have gotten the number of or dated. The more I read I think your approach to girls might be off.
[/QUOTE]I tend to agree with this take, being a foreigner was an asset for me with Japanese women, not an impediment as many report here. For the first time in my life I casually hooked up with a regular chick at shopping mall (Shibuya) where we connected over some trivial stuff. She spoke limited English, I made a joke after a purchase and complimented her appearance and manners, we locked eyes, and it was on. I wasn't looking for a hookup, but would have been an idiot to let this go.
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Are there any Cheaper SOAPYs in Shinjuku or roppongi areas?
Hi.
Every report I have gone through on TokyoAdultguide, people seem to pay 60000-150000 for a session?
Are there cheaper places. First time visiting, also except for the 2-3 pink salons welcoming foreigners, there are no others?
Are there and foreigner friendly pink salons or soapies around roppongi?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Daebis;2928609]Hi.
Every report I have gone through on TokyoAdultguide, people seem to pay 60000-150000 for a session?
Are there cheaper places. First time visiting, also except for the 2-3 pink salons welcoming foreigners, there are no others?
Are there and foreigner friendly pink salons or soapies around roppongi?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I'm far from the expert, so there's probably a lot more than I know about.
But in Shinjuku try Soapland MAX. Bit hard to find by googling, but its gajin friendly and is like 32 k460.
In Yoshiwara it swarms with soaplands. Contrary to what I'm reading that most are not gajin friendly. I was invited inside almost every door, although I'm pretty sure most would add up a pretty hefty taks for not being japanese. (FYI I don't look asian, I don't speak any asain let alone japanese.) So could be it was just a slow day and they wanted customers, I don't know. I went inside one random, on the door it said 30 k4120. Once inside, they show pics, I ask price. 80 k. HAHAH so I politly say sorry to much, my bad I thought I seen 30 k on the door. The guy mumbles english and japanese mixed together something about 30 k being the 'charge', but what the added cost is I've no clue, he did go down to 60 k BTW, I still passed.
But anyway, in this area there's some affordable soaplands too. Though, I am guessing higher price here does mean better quality at least in rooms and maintanance. I went for a cheaper one and it was kinda like 20 years overdue for a refurb. I mean, almost any Thai soapy in Bangkok is in better state haha, even the shitty ones in the ally's LOL.
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[QUOTE=Daebis;2928609]Every report I have gone through on TokyoAdultguide, people seem to pay 60000-150000 for a session?
Are there cheaper places. First time visiting, also except for the 2-3 pink salons welcoming foreigners, there are no others?
Are there and foreigner friendly pink salons or soapies around roppongi?[/QUOTE]Am I reading these numbers right? 60,000 or 150,000 yen? It should 1/2 or 1/3 the lower number unless the place is special in some way. My experience was in Yokohama, you can see my guide in the Yokohama thread about soapland there. At Kirakira (Hinodecho station) the rates are 50 minutes for 18000 yen ($112), 70 minutes for 26000. So..you could go Kira Kira about 3-8 times instead. You can reach Yokohama by rapid line from Shibuya / Shinagawa in about 35 minutes, then go Hinodecho station. They are open all day til late at night.
I am sure there are better soaplands, Kira Kira is just average with decent looking women and good rooms. Kira Kira (formerly Mermaid) has a long history of taking foreigners, no upcharge. You need some Japanese of course, but not a lot. First thing they ask is if you have a reservation, if you can't get past that level of understanding I can't help you. Read the guide I wrote for more tips. I did window shop soaplands in Tokyo with a friend, they were a bit more expensive but not the prices I'm hearing (you are not the first to quote those numbers). Only 25% of shops took in foreigners, and at those shops only a few girls would take us. Plus they added on 10000 to the price. So we refused, we had other options.
There are some super high end soaplands that charge 60,000. You would consistently expect a young girl there plus a much nicer room, if not extra services. It is inconceivably expensive for soapland, so someone is getting ripped off if the prices go up from there. Those are "tourist only" prices. Not even actual JAV porn star soaplands charge that much.
At some point you might as well fly all the way to America or another country for a young jgirl because in the USA the rate for a 20's year old cute jgirl is $340 an hour. $100 for bb, $200 for video. A few are actual JAV porn stars that match the girl in the video (but always b-listers I never heard of and had to look up). It's a trend now due to the exchange rate. See my posts on the USAG forum. This is why I don't bother with soapland except out of pure curiosity. I am not expecting a cute young girl there, I just want to be in my favorite JAV for an hour and see what it's like. I'm glad I tried.
I think TAG is where I heard about Kira Kira. I wrote a review there long ago but can't find my login anymore. There were Tokyo soaplands mentioned there, however frankly I can't be bothered to go for reasons I've already listed. I'm not interested in soapland, I'm just happy to help someone else if they want to.
If you want, you can reserve a girl. I just went out of curiosity so I didn't bother, just walked in:
[URL]https://kirakira.yokohama/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=SlickLicker;2928817]I went inside one random, on the door it said 30 k4120. Once inside, they show pics, I ask price. 80 k. HAHAH so I politly say sorry to much, my bad I thought I seen 30 k on the door. The guy mumbles english and japanese mixed together something about 30 k being the 'charge', but what the added cost is I've no clue, he did go down to 60 k BTW, I still passed.[/QUOTE]I had a similar experience at Yoshiwara, the system was weird where outside it said 30 k but inside they tell you a higher price (it was only like 44 k). But there was an explicit foreigner tax too. This was only at Yoshiwara. To be fair 120 minutes is a marathon and you can expect to pay a lot more for it but still 80 k is a tourist tax. In Yokohama outside it said clearly 50 minutes for 18000 yen, 70 minutes for 26000. That's the exact amount I paid. No foreigner tax.
Yoshiwara is expensive by all standards. It is the Ginza of soaplands.
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[QUOTE=SlickLicker;2928817]But in Shinjuku try Soapland MAX. Bit hard to find by googling, but its gajin friendly and is like 32 k460.[/QUOTE]Since I just walked by the one in Asakusa I figured I'd take a photo. It's right outside the Tsukuba Express Asakusa station (not the main Asakusa station everyone goes to).
Seems much cheaper than Shinjuku prices. In Asakusa's Max it's 14,000 yen for 40 minutes. Can't tell you about girl quality between the 2 locations but it's foreigner friendly per the sign.
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Fabulous post. Booking my ticket now.
Are you supposed to tip the girls or not?
Also, is it common to get the girl's number to have a one to one session separate from the club?
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2927559]Hi, I've been going Japan 20 for years, my account is actually that old but haven't logged in much. It's time to give back. I will write about oppai pubs first, but not sure how much interest there is so will keep it brief to start.
Shinjuku has the most and best oppai pubs. Translated "breast club", it is typically all-you-can-drink where girls come and sit and chat and you can kiss them or suck on their tits. Ask them to hop on. Other guys around are doing the same, it is semi-private. There are extra charges if you want to buy the girl a drink. The most common rate is for 40 minutes of drinking where 3 girls visit you, so maybe 10 minutes per girl. A typical "promo" rate is 8000 yen for that, discounted to 6000 yen if it is early (8/10pm). So I can have 1-3 beers at a fixed price, obviously the draw is the girl. The system is in contrast to kabakura clubs where you don't touch the girls and you might get 60 minutes for 4000 with 2 girls (cheaper and longer, but no touch just talk).
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Is the girl giving rimming standard in the service offerings for the Amateur escorts (or for that matter other escorts)? If not, what option would you recommend for this please, as this is my favourite "hobby"?
[QUOTE=Kib123;2925080]This is a detailed perspective to help newbie mongers like me. Skip to the middle for just the mongering stuff.
Getting cash: Japan is surprisingly still cash heavy. As a foreigner you need considerable amount of cash for daily transactions such as taxi, public transport (bus / subway), many local restaurants, vending machines, some stores, etc. This is because foreign (sometimes any) credit cards are not accepted in such places. Also, most Japanese bank ATMs will not recognize foreign MC / Visa despite the logos stamped on them. After googling, I found that the good old American 7-11 (aka '7-Bank') is by far the best (cheapest and accessible) way to get cash with a foreign card. There is a 7-11 or two, or three at every corner, and their ATMs only charge a flat 220 yen (less than $1. 50) for any withdrawal above 10,000 yen (up to what your card / bank will allow).
Local transport: Extremely convenient via the most extensive (and busiest) subway system I have encountered, super easy to get to any mongering corner of the city. Make sure you purchase a Suica / Pasmo card which you can top up as needed for local transport within any city. However, only cash works for both purchase and top up for foreigners. Only the bullet train ticket counter accepted my foreign CC.
Hobby: I was very skeptical following countless reports that suggest major aversion to foreigners in Japan. Most experiences reported here (outright rejections, hefty foreigner 'tax') were not reassuring. However, Japan is far and expensive to get to, so I was determined to make the best of a bad situation. No way I was going home empty handed. I am not into street walkers or night clubs, I prefer established incalls or outcall. My experience in Tokyo is restricted to such, but I did venture into RLDs at night just for the fun. Incredibly clean and organized (like everything in Japan), the walk of shame you would feel elsewhere never kicks in.
Hentai-Tokyo was my original target based on insights from this forum, but as I was browsing for intel, I came across an ad for Tokyo Amateur Escorts ([URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/[/URL]), with a pricing structure that seemed more attractive, but no mention or reviews anywhere. I decided to pay them a visit and take one for the team if needed. They claim to only host Japanese girls, all under 25. Their website has very clear directions to their office near Shibuya subway station, but Google map will also take you there. The owner and his staff speak a bit of English, so easy to communicate. When I arrived the first time in late afternoon only 3 ladies were available despite lots listed on the website. All looked hot though. Another cause for concern is that when I made my choice, the owner shook his head and said 'no good', and suggested that I pick from the other 2, with a clear preference for one of them. My experiences with house recommendations around the world have been abysmal at best, so I was rather skeptical but did not wish to be impolite. Japanese are polite to a fault, so you feel a natural obligation to reciprocate. It was taking one for the team time.
Prices on their website are accurate, I opted for 65 min /21 k yen. Just remember you have to pay additional 2 k admission fee and another 2 k selection fee, whatever those mean. I guess it is a way for the house to make base revenue they don't have to split with the provider. After the (forced) 'selection' I was given a piece of paper (in Japanese) to take next door to the love motel (I think Onyx is the name), where I had to pay for the room separately. They had options for 60 min to 4 hours, I chose 90 min, paid (about 3 k) and got my key. They used the piece of paper I was given to coordinate the room number with the agency so the lady knows where to find me. Other agencies I visited (including Tokyo-Hentai) do it differently, the lady either meets you at the office or at a predetermined location near the office and you walk together (holding hands) to their default love motel. I guess this is part of the 'girlfriend experience'.
Anyway, back to the virgin experience. The room was small but clean and had all the essentials, a large screen TV, a toilet, a shower with bathtub, air conditioning (all 6 rooms I sessioned in at the Onyx were similar). The lady (going by Manami, [URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/%e6%a3%ae%e5%b7%9d%e3%81%be%e3%81%aa%e3%81%bf/[/URL]) knocked on the door after about 5 min. Young, hot, slender but shapely (feminine), tallish (about 5'6" almost modelesque. Spoke zero English, but very friendly personality and playful demeanor. My original skepticism began to melt instantly.
After a brief google translate chit chat, she prepared two cups of mouthwash and gave me one. We gargled and then she took me to the shower and washed me front and back, lingering as needed on the essentials. These women know how to take care of their men. The GFE that followed was top shelf, inexperience mixed with innocence that made the experience feel very genuine and sensual, my style exactly. The lady also thoroughly enjoys what she does and delivered one of the best experiences I have had to date, and the best on this trip. She is the only one I repeated with despite so many options I wanted to sample. The house got it right this time, and their subsequent recommendations were spot on!
My other experiences were variations of above. Only one lady seemed to do it as a job and I would never repeat with. The rest brought their 'A' game and delivered at a high level, like they really enjoyed what they do. Most of the ladies were also surprisingly true to age and appearance, especially Tokyo Amateur. Hentai ladies tended to be older than their posted photos / ages, but not by abnormal margins. I used them mostly in Osaka.
My average per session damage at Tokyo amateur was 28 K including room cost (about USD 180 at going exchange rate), and it was my favorite agency for various reasons. No attempt at upsell (Hentai especially liked annoying upsell), one simple price for all ladies, most accurate age / pic match, and best performance-price ratio (excellent based on the service I got). You can also book with them via whatsapp, where they send you pics of ladies available at your preferred time slot, and even make recommendations based on your prior choices or preference.
About Japanese women: Almost the opposite of what I was led to believe from reading numerous posts / blogs. I personally found them to be the most open-minded providers I have encountered anywhere in the world both in and out of the bedroom, by quite some margin. Brazilian women come a distant second in this regard. In terms of performance, the high level of A game they bring to the hobby is comparable only to the Brazilian women. While Brazilian women beat them in passion and PSE, they win hands down in overall GFE and sensuality.
About 6 out of 10 women I sessioned with insisted on walking me to either the main street or all the way to the subway (5 to 10 min walk) after the session, hand in hand. Talk about GFE! This was the case in both Tokyo and Osaka (yes, I sessioned there too), so it was apparently not a unique phenomenon. And I am as far removed from Japanese-looking as can be.
Useful tip: Do not pay for any upsell hoping to get better service. Let things flow organically in the room with the lady. Most of them won't disappoint you if you do your homework.
I wish Japan wasn't so damn expensive to travel to and board in. This would have been my favorite mongering destination in addition to Brazil.
Happy mongering my friends![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=HotDog666;2928987]Fabulous post. Booking my ticket now.
Are you supposed to tip the girls or not?
Also, is it common to get the girl's number to have a one to one session separate from the club?[/QUOTE]Don't tip the girls. You can buy them a girl's drink. That's basically the system. Some girls don't even ask for a drink but if things are going well most will. Some people do, some people don't.
At every club I went it is common to exchange contact info, however you should not assume it is to meet. It is mostly a waste of time, to give an illusion of intimacy. I only find it useful to get contact if I want to know a girl's schedule, since most girls don't work every day or consistently. This is an oppai pub, the girls you meet here are generally not going to meet you outside the club. I'm sure a couple do, but I would not count on it. The main purpose is so they can ask you back to the club.
In my opinion, save your money and just see her again a the club. If you are thinking of offering an extra high rate to take a girl out, well that's exactly what you're not supposed to do. There's a good chance it'll be a no, then it's awkward and you never see her again even though you like her. Don't fall in love either. You do not get your money's worth in those situations, though I'm sure many people believe they do at first.
I'm sure you must have some basic Japanese, the more the better. Stick to Luxe if you are just starting out, they are used to it.
There are places you can bang jgirls much better. Like the USA of all places. It's complicated why but the jgirls in the US are now mostly early 20s or ex JAV. Ever since the yen crash. See USAG where I also post (this is the USA sister site of this website).
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Any recommendations for ride sharing apps?
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Something Different to Ask
I have a different type of question. I will be visiting Japan in a couple of months and was wondering if someone can recommend a Konyoku onsen near Tokyo. I have done quite a bit of reading and to be honest it is very confusing. Anywhere I can take a day trip and return back to Tokyo at a reasonable evening time. I prefer a onsen that you don't wear a swim suit. Nothing lude just want to experience the real thing. Hopefully I won't get burned for putting this into this category. Thanks in advance. I will also be in Osaka and Kyoto during the trip if you have other suggestions. Looking forward to trying out the soaplands.
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Shall be in Shinjuku, July 16 - 23. Plan to visit Tokyo Hentai and Luxe frequently.
LMK if you want to meet up.
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Konyoku
Google will throw up a few suggestions, but I suspect they won't include foreigners in their definition of "mixed".
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[QUOTE=Shamester;2929878]Shall be in Shinjuku, July 16 - 23. Plan to visit Tokyo Hentai and Luxe frequently.
LMK if you want to meet up.[/QUOTE]What hotel did you book in Shinjuku?
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[QUOTE=MikeMark;2929937]What hotel did you book in Shinjuku?[/QUOTE]Hotel Gracery Shinjuku which is supposedly a very short walk to Tokyo Hentai.
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Rideshare.
[QUOTE=Shamester;2929555]Any recommendations for ride sharing apps?[/QUOTE]I've always used Uber while in Japan. The only difference is that the traditional taxi service is linked with it, so a real taxi will show up.
I've also heard about S. Ride, but I've never personally used it.
Most people will tell you to avoid taxis in Japan as they're more expensive than a lot of other places around the world, but with much of Japan's public transit absolutely shutting down around midnight or so, when you're in a pinch. You're in a pinch.
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Barubola Marine Blue. Great but expensive
I've been a bit of a lurker here, trying to understand the Japanese scene from the outside. It's not easy. Here's an attempt to give back.
I've had the chance to visit Barubola Marine Blue in Shinjuku in the last month, and a couple of times earlier this year. If you're looking for a foreigner-friendly soapland experience and are willing and able to pay, I can recommend it. They put a 20 K gaijin tax up, and are very upfront about it, so it's 60 k+ for 90 minutes. Affordable compared to the huge rip-off that is Don Juan, but otherwise. Very, very pricey.
However, on each of my visits, the girls have been gorgeous, and very accommodating. My Japanese is very limited, and so we used phone translation extensively, which worked well. As a newbie, you can just let the girl lead. From the sitting shower where you are thoroughly scrubbed, to the mutual bath, to slippery mat play, to bed time. They're great.
If you want to try it all, you'll need 120 minutes and some stamina. Otherwise, in 90 minutes, you generally have time for either bed or mat, but not both. 50 minutes is probably just some shower and bed time.
I have learned through experience that the house recommendations here are spot on. They're not trying to mislead you. They genuinely know who's great. The girls I have seen are mostly early to mid 20's in age, with one who was probably early 30's and by far the best service to make up for her slightly older age.
I don't believe it's possible to make a reservation as a foreigner. I am asked if I have one when I walk in, and then when I don't, I am always led to a waiting room. Sometimes I am alone, sometimes I am there with other men. Usually all Japanese, with maybe one other foreigner e. G. Chinese guy. Then they come with cards of who is available. Even as a walk-in, there have always been at least 2-3 options, with waiting times ranging from 5 to 40 minutes. Payment is made, they go over the rules (which are common-sense -- come on guys, don't be an ass), and then they hand you a number card.
I do recommend, although once you've added the Gaijin tax the price is a bit much. On my next visit I will spend some time looking at some of the lower cost options to compare.
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Thank you
Just wanted to say thanks to Kib123 for this great post. [URL]Amateurtokyo.com[/URL] was everything he described and more.
In 2023 I used [URL]https://tokyo-puffpuff.com/[/URL] but this year on my trip to Tokyo the shop was closed. I came to this forum to find out what happened and came across this post. Perfect timing as I honestly believe it is the same company and they closed puffpuff and opened amateurtokyo a few meters away. I remember the young guy at the counter from 2023.
I went early and had a choice of 5 women, 3 blonde haired and 2 raven haired. I chose one of the raven haired woman, I forget her working name. My Japanese is very basic so I just used the translate app on my phone. We had a great session. The pricing was similar to what was quoted below. I did have a small extra fee for 1st timer but whatever since the Yen is so weak. The language barrier is easy to get over if you keep a friendly tone and smile and laugh at silly things when they happen. She showered me, we brushed our teeth. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, finished with Sumata. She asked if I wanted to try again as I had extra time left, I was jet lagged so I declined and just ended up using the translate app and broken english to chat and talk about her and places to eat in Shibuya.
We exchanged LINE ID's and she gave me her real name. We tried to connect outside of the club but my travel schedule was to hectic to make it work before I left.
Overall a great experience and would repeat again and try a different girl just for variety sake. Just to be clear No Full Service everything as described in the menu is available.
Be safe out there!! Be Kind!
L2's.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2925080]This is a detailed perspective to help newbie mongers like me. Skip to the middle for just the mongering stuff.
Hentai-Tokyo was my original target based on insights from this forum, but as I was browsing for intel, I came across an ad for Tokyo Amateur Escorts ([URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/[/URL]), with a pricing structure that seemed more attractive, but no mention or reviews anywhere. I decided to pay them a visit and take one for the team if needed.
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Anyway, back to the virgin experience. The room was small but clean and had all the essentials, a large screen TV, a toilet, a shower with bathtub, air conditioning (all 6 rooms I sessioned in at the Onyx were similar). The lady (going by Manami, [URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/%e6%a3%ae%e5%b7%9d%e3%81%be%e3%81%aa%e3%81%bf/[/URL]) knocked on the door after about 5 min. Young, hot, slender but shapely (feminine), tallish (about 5'6" almost modelesque. Spoke zero English, but very friendly personality and playful demeanor. My original skepticism began to melt instantly.
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Happy mongering my friends![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hhs04;2930144]I've had the chance to visit Barubola Marine Blue in Shinjuku in the last month, and a couple of times earlier this year. If you're looking for a foreigner-friendly soapland experience and are willing and able to pay, I can recommend it. They put a 20 K gaijin tax up, and are very upfront about it, so it's 60 k+ for 90 minutes. Affordable compared to the huge rip-off that is Don Juan, but otherwise. Very, very pricey.
However, on each of my visits, the girls have been gorgeous, and very accommodating.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review. Just want to add a few important details. They have a small ( 9%) discount for early mornings so if somehow you are there 6 am-10 am (morning wood?) it is -2000 yen for 50 minutes and -5000 yen for 90 minutes. However, some girls do not work those hours. Note that there can be a big variation in wait time depending on which girl you choose. I won't go into the different reasons but 5 to 40 minutes sounds about right.
They are quite explicit that they are both open to foreigners and also add on a 20,000 yen foreigner tax. There are also other options such as 15 minute time extension, some girls are premium (adding 1000 to 6000), etc. The 20,000 yen foreigner tax is regardless of 50/90/120 minute choice, and as mentioned 90 is probably a good place to start if you want the full soap experience. 120 if you are multi-shot and long-lasting etc. The foreigner tax is even on the Japanese page so it is not like this is just a language test. It is in some ways a risk tax for them since their most important criteria is "no trouble". You can see their rules / prohibitions list for everyone are risk related. The rules are the bare minimum of decency so if you weren't going to follow them before being told then honestly soapland is not for you anyways.
Without the foreigner tax the rates are about right for Shinjuku. It's only 50% more than Yokohama Kira Kira so as long as the girls are better it is justified. They are foreigner welcome so just behave. It is common sense and you will have fun.
For those curious, the rules are pretty much the same at every shop:
Insulting / Violence against women.
Any sort of act that is disliked by women.
Any kind of act of stalking women.
Any members of a gang member or similar people are not allowed.
Usage by anyone in the same industry.
Headhunting or any act that is similar.
People who are drunk or is mentally unstable.
Any suspicion of possession or usage of drugs.
Anyone with or suspicion of sexually transmitted disease.
Lack of cleanliness.
Any other acts that the store may consider prohibited.
Acts that do not follow our instructions.
Acts that do not use hygiene products.
Notice that ugliness is not a factor. If you act like a normal person to the girls they will worship you just the same. Do not disrespect the girls that won't work anywhere in the world.
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Girls with placards, promising massages and more
Hi,
Was stopped by girls dresses cute with massage shop placards in their hands asking me to go up the steps.
I ignore them. But saw 4 - 5 girls around Shibuya crossing.
Any idea what sort of places are these, worth visiting?
Looking for a good foreign friendly pink saloon, please advice.
Here for 2 days.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Daebis;2930311]Was stopped by girls dresses cute with massage shop placards in their hands asking me to go up the steps.
I ignore them. But saw 4 - 5 girls around Shibuya crossing.
Any idea what sort of places are these, worth visiting?[/QUOTE]If they are advertising massage, they will give you a massage.
If you want a handjob, find that. They're obviously different. Shibuya has some but you need to navigate Japanese website for them. I noticed Manzoku don't even bother advertising them since they are low margin (they used to).
Offering handjobs, blowjobs, or anal sex for money is legal in Japan so there is not some hidden messaging going on here. You can just ask the girl. Often they get customers for massage by using some appeal like cute outfits (including maid outfits), with cute girls, or some other gimmick. When it comes to handjobs, the girls don't usually stand outside. But there are sometimes independents however they have to be discreet since there is usually some other factor (ex. Their visa doesn't allow this work and they are operating out of some apartment rather than a legit business so can't allow landlord to know). Typically Chinese but any foreigner. Handjobs for money are legal, working as a foreigner without permission is not.
Unfortunately the site I use does not allow access from outside Japan and is in Japanese only: [URL]https://www.cityheaven.net/tokyo[/URL].
In the past I have straight up asked a Manzoku staff to help me since even if they don't advertise it on their walls they may be willing to introduce you (it is a ymmv thing even on their end). I would not trust non-Jaanese touts, even though they can work out enough are not legit that I wouldn't.
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[QUOTE=Daebis;2930311]I ignore them. But saw 4 - 5 girls around Shibuya crossing.[/QUOTE]Yes I noticed them right outside Shibuya Station at the Hachiko exit. There were close to 10 of them 2 nights ago. I didn't talk to any of them but I'm pretty certain they weren't advertising for things you were seeking. If in doubt just talk to these girls. I got lured into a maid cafe the other day. I know I know. Lame. But the girl was so damn cute, friendly, and spoke English well. I wanted to get out of the heat after walking from Ueno to Akiba. All in all worth under 2000 yen for entry and my curry dinner. I wasn't allowed to take photos or video unless I paid. um No.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2930211]Without the foreigner tax the rates are about right for Shinjuku. It's only 50% more than Yokohama Kira Kira so as long as the girls are better it is justified. They are foreigner welcome so just behave. It is common sense and you will have fun.[/QUOTE]Fully agreed! I also just had the chance to visit Kira Kira today, as a point of comparison. From my single data point, Kira Kira had more basic facilities, and generally much older girls. (I saw Lemon, who gave great service, and I enjoyed her large erasers, but she appeared 7-10 years older than listed). I would assess the girls at Barubola as overall much better. The value really depends though. At 26 K for 70 minutes vs 61 K+ for 90 minutes it really depends on what you have and what you're after.
I should mention that at Barubola I saw Mako Shiina. Her face was pretty but nothing special, but her body was absolutely perfect. One of the most gorgeous bodies I have ever seen.
And finally agreed on the common sense. Be a gentleman, follow the girl's lead, and you will have fun. This is not rocket science, and it's really unfortunate that they have to emphasize the rules so much because of what must have been some prior experiences.
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Suggest a foreignor friendly pink salon
Besides janjan and lovely hands, please suggest a pink salons or two.
I had an experience with my first jap using amateur tokyo.
Paid 17 k to select, 3. 1 k hotel. The girl was nice but saw my size and could hardly give a BJ.
Then asked for a tip for FS, showed me a message in English about provider not wanting to know.
Could hardly get it in.
Soapys I am finding too expensive.
Thought give a pink salons bjbar a go.
Thanks.
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Arrived around 6:00 pm on Tuesday at Haneda. Immigration and customs was a very fast and efficient process. The taxi mentioned young free lancers.
Hang out at Okubo Park after dark. Also provided a good agency for women called Riona, 03.630. 21150.
Locating Tokyo Hentai was difficult. The building is across the street from the closed down Robot Restaurant. The agency is located in the back of 3 F.
Big selection of women. Chose Lisa.
Cute and slim but looks much better in the pics. Walked me to a love hotel. Brushed teeth and showered together. Spoke good English. Good GFE.
Follows instructions. Very sensual. Selected the 90 minute option which allows for multiple pops. Its very relaxing in a non stressful environment.
The shiatsu massage was on point. Unfortunately she wanted 30,000 yen for vaginal sex -- too much for me. She is available to meet up outside.
Of the club but her rates are outrageous for everything.
IMO Tokyo Hentai is a decent experience if you are willing to forego vaginal sex.
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Night in tokyo
Started the night at golden gai with the fellas and had a few drinks, from there we started to make our way to some of the clubs in the area, but you find out quickly that 12 am is too early, a local promotor (the African dudes hanging about) decided to show us around and took us to a about 4 different spots 2 were clubs that offered additional service, 1 was a massage parlor and the other a whatever you want. Bad thing is I don't removed the names of the places but 2 where in the typical high floor in a building. We ended up staying in 1 of the club for 1 hour 4000 yen all you can drink after the 3rd drink the time ran out and the owner kicked us out because we didn't extend our time complete asshole wouldn't even let us finish our drinks, keep in mind the place was completely empty and we were the only guys there drinking and buying a few girls drinks while talking to them.
Out of the other 2 spot both had very beautiful girls to choose from but sadly at the 1st spot since we were last through the door, by time it was time to pick most of the beautiful girl were gone, so the second spot for the win, I lucked out and found this cute somewhat thick girl, I showered up and we start off with a CBJ with plenty of attention to the marbles, mission, leg on shoulder, lazy doggy to complete. After which 1 showered again and ran out. Damage was 20000 yen.
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Woke up early to eat breakfast. While walking back to Gracery Hotel, I was approached by a Tawianese women about chica massages. Asked if.
Full sex was available. She stated vaginal intercourse was included. The price is 25,000 yen for one shot and 35,000 yen for 2 shots. Stated the chicas.
Are Japanese (extremely skeptical).
Walked with the lady to the location. The place is called Relax on the 4th floor. Its across a Lawson. Decent lineup of young chicas that are non.
Japanese. Rooms are tiny with a fan. No Towels. Selected a Thai looking chica with a nice rack and 2 shots. They are open 1700 to 600 am.
Typical rush job. Too much lube. No French Kissing. Decent experience but not repeating.
After completion, a different chinese women was outside asking me about pricing. Failed to disclose but was offering lower rates. Shop was next.
A Don Quiote. Declined.
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Yesterday stopped by the Boburela soap land. Its difficult to find -- located in the back alley. Only presented with one option who.
Spoke English. Declined. This place gives rip off vibes.
Visited Tokyo Hentai again. Selected Asahi -- speaks passable English. Nice slim figure with a good face. Somewhat of a GFE experience.
The suction rate is low but sensual. Doesn't really french kiss. Wanted 30,000 extra for vaginal sex -- tempting but declined.
Overall Tokyo Hentai is a decent experience for Tokyo but nowhere close to the best-mongering locations.
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[QUOTE=Shamester;2931153]Yesterday stopped by the Boburela soap land. Its difficult to find -- located in the back alley. Only presented with one option who.
Spoke English. Declined. This place gives rip off vibes.
Visited Tokyo Hentai again. Selected Asahi -- speaks passable English. Nice slim figure with a good face. Somewhat of a GFE experience.
The suction rate is low but sensual. Doesn't really french kiss. Wanted 30,000 extra for vaginal sex -- tempting but declined.
Overall Tokyo Hentai is a decent experience for Tokyo but nowhere close to the best-mongering locations.[/QUOTE]Mongering in Japan in general sucks, so the benchmarks are pretty low.
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[QUOTE=MrJoker123;2930691]Started the night at golden gai with the fellas and had a few drinks, from there we started to make our way to some of the clubs in the area, but you find out quickly that 12 am is too early, a local promotor (the African dudes hanging about) decided to show us around and took us to a about 4 different spots 2 were clubs that offered additional service, 1 was a massage parlor and the other a whatever you want. Bad thing is I don't removed the names of the places but 2 where in the typical high floor in a building. We ended up staying in 1 of the club for 1 hour 4000 yen all you can drink after the 3rd drink the time ran out and the owner kicked us out because we didn't extend our time complete asshole wouldn't even let us finish our drinks, keep in mind the place was completely empty and we were the only guys there drinking and buying a few girls drinks while talking to them.[/QUOTE]Hi, it is best not to follow the Nigerian touts, specifically those in Kabukicho at Shinjuku. They have a long history for drugging lone customers in bars and then robbing them. The US Embassy repeatedly warns about them. They are opportunistic and know how to hide their crimes, they lead people to second-rate titty bars, most that Japanese would not visit. Lucky for you if you are in a group. If you are alone and the bar is empty that is the most dangerous scenario. I have seen with my own two eyes them committing brazen crimes. For example several of them grabbed a ladies' purse and ran off - this was almost within view of a police station. Normally I walk past them but when nobody else was around one of them grabbed my arm so he could sell. A few will try to sell you drugs even though you are ignoring them and walking past them. They've been doing this a very long time.
The danger is particularly for those who are alone at a not busy time. Drugging incidents are reported every week:
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/Tokyo/comments/1e67bij/iphone_stolen_in_japan_and_is_now_in_nigeria/[/URL]
There are English speaking information shops in Kabukicho you can walk in. After 20 years I only use information shops because they are legit and directories of shops in the area. Keep in mind English speaking Asian touts are sometimes Chinese. I've spoken with them before and while they gave no trouble, all the shops they took me were 2nd rate, either run by Chinese or employing 2nd rate immigrant girls who were frankly quite ugly. I was curious though since I speak Chinese and asked him to take me a place Japanese customers would actually want, since all these other shops sucked. He took me to a Chinese hostess club, which was actually legit and good. I would not recommend going this route, I was young and adventurous then. But for those curious.
This guide is old but lists a few pinosaro, which is a blowjob bar. Not my thing but pretty unique to Japan where women come to you in rotation to give you a blowjob. As opposed to purely 1-on-1 blowjob shops. Sometimes featured in JAV:
[URL]https://rockitreports.com/foreigner-friendly-pink-salons-in-tokyo/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2931223]
This guide is old but lists a few pinosaro, which is a blowjob bar. Not my thing but pretty unique to Japan where women come to you in rotation to give you a blowjob. As opposed to purely 1-on-1 blowjob shops. Sometimes featured in JAV:
[URL]https://rockitreports.com/foreigner-friendly-pink-salons-in-tokyo/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing. Sounds very interesting!
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Saturday night was extremely rainy.
Started at Luxe -- tough to find but its on the same street as Tokyo Hentai. This club is very deceptive. The "random" selection.
Of chicas clearly favors the Japanese.
The women are decent looking but only allow French Kissing if you buy a drink or extend the time. Tits are generally small but.
Shapely. Overall its a decent experience.
Met a nice local black dude. Took me over to Neo Tokyo. Its a bar with decent looking foreign women. Slightly on the older side but.
Overall attractive chicas. Met a hot looking mixed Japanese chica named Rika. Lives in Yokohama. Super chatty and aggressive about.
Purchasing lady drinks. Wanted 300,000 yen minimum to meet outside the club or 400,000 yen Chanel sunglasses.
Departed and visited a bar with that local blacks visit. Down the floor is a place with 20,000 yen one pop chicas. Decent line up with.
A nice slim big breasted Japanese chica. Unfortunately too drunk to entertain. The chica I banged earlier was there as well.
Walked downstairs to a Vietnamese bar. Good place to chill.
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[QUOTE=Daebis;2930585]Besides janjan and lovely hands, please suggest a pink salons or two.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I would go to Safari in Shibuya they will except foreigners and some girls there are cute and around 20's to late 30's. I got 69 twice there from same girl CIM and amazing full body massage. Other than that you can try Look x Look in Kanda it's in a fairly easy to get to this area and cheap there you can have two girls around 20's to late 30's both will give you BBBJCIM and some girls are cute at least when I went last year they were. Jyan Jyan is not the greatest it's hit and miss. But I have had amazing BBBJCIM service there several years ago like 2008. I've been to Academy not so good but was just ok again several years ago. Kiss Kiss that's near Asakusa has a great selection of young girls if you want FS and cute Japanese girls but it will cost around $120 for one hour but not nearly as much as many other places and they are super friendly and clean. Good luck and happy hunting.
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Location for paradise?
Hi can you tell me the location or name of the place? Thanks.
[QUOTE=ReimuFan3432;2375861]I go to this place frequently when in Japan. Its easy to access and pretty efficient.
The 3 P service does not include lesbian action I am pretty sure, but I have not ordered 3 P enough to confirm. The 3 P is still very nice, as its more like Servent Girl-Master relation rather than a more Western one with experimenting and what not. I think if lesbian stuff happens, its out of pure luck and mood of the girls. But I mainly just get solo.
The main services you get is cow girl and a bath. Those seem the most common.
I really like the girl Sakura. She has nice feminine curves I get lost in OwO Her kisses taste really good. It is a distinct taste though, so you might be different. Pretty skilled in bed- its amazing what she can do. The voice is High! Very high voice. I love it, as she seems like one of those anime girls who are immature. Very cute. But the complete opposite of a deep volce. Her face makes me melt when looking at her. Submissive anime girl feel.
Another girl I really like is June. She has nice short hair that goes with her face. Her mannerisms are outgoing and sexy. Like she just seems so excited for sex LOL. Just overall pretty fun to have- can't go wrong with her. Liked her ass! Very genki girl.
Finally, this young girl Ria. I do not know if she's still around. Really sexy body and face- felt like being with athletic girl. She is more passive, so you have more control in the situation. Just felt good to dominate! Had really good time. Definitely really worth the money.
So yeah, Paradise in Kawasaki is pretty great and just really convenient to walk in and enter. Was not aware of other Paradise chains till this site.[/QUOTE]
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Not sure where you monger
[QUOTE=Pegasus887;2931216]Mongering in Japan in general sucks, so the benchmarks are pretty low.[/QUOTE]Mongering in Japan is awesome and easy, problem is everyone who comes tries to treat it like US mongering. It's not it's way better, at this moment I can jump on one of 5 sites and find a beautiful Japanese girl to do what I want. I have shared several of them. Notice most of you go to the ones that basically only cater to foreigners. Now if you don't like asian women obviously it's horrible. But if you like asian women. There's married women escorts, big breast escorts, high school girl or JK escorts everything you could ever imagine. Price wise with the exchange rate it's more than comparable. The best part is you don't have to worry about police because it's legal. So what part of mongering sucks. Actually maybe the lack transparent full service options. That's because it's illegal. Even then go to any soapland it's guaranteed. Also post websites that's have links to foreigner friendly soaplands.
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Looking for short term situation: 1-2 weeks
I have a business trip to Tokyo coming up and would like a short term companion. Like the title states 1-2 weeks. I appreciate traditional mongering, but it would be nice to actually get to know someone over the course of a few dates. And I've found that my intimate interactions with women tend to get better when we have more opportunities to do it.
A friend went to Thailand last year, and he said he used a site that allowed him to basically rent a GF who also became some sort of translator / tour guide / companion. It sounded very convenient.
Are there any sites that cater to this specifically in Japan?
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[QUOTE=David032;2931730]Mongering in Japan is awesome and easy, problem is everyone who comes tries to treat it like US mongering. It's not it's way better, at this moment I can jump on one of 5 sites and find a beautiful Japanese girl to do what I want. I have shared several of them. Notice most of you go to the ones that basically only cater to foreigners. Now if you don't like asian women obviously it's horrible. But if you like asian women. There's married women escorts, big breast escorts, high school girl or JK escorts everything you could ever imagine. Price wise with the exchange rate it's more than comparable. The best part is you don't have to worry about police because it's legal. So what part of mongering sucks. Actually maybe the lack transparent full service options. That's because it's illegal. Even then go to any soapland it's guaranteed. Also post websites that's have links to foreigner friendly soaplands.[/QUOTE]Of the websites you posted earlier, which you pick as the best for foreigners? And how common is it to be about to negotiate for FS once you're in the room with them?
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Question for the thread
[QUOTE=David032;2931730]Mongering in Japan is awesome and easy, problem is everyone who comes tries to treat it like US mongering. It's not it's way better, at this moment I can jump on one of 5 sites and find a beautiful Japanese girl to do what I want. I have shared several of them. Notice most of you go to the ones that basically only cater to foreigners. Now if you don't like asian women obviously it's horrible. But if you like asian women. There's married women escorts, big breast escorts, high school girl or JK escorts everything you could ever imagine. Price wise with the exchange rate it's more than comparable. The best part is you don't have to worry about police because it's legal. So what part of mongering sucks. Actually maybe the lack transparent full service options. That's because it's illegal. Even then go to any soapland it's guaranteed. Also post websites that's have links to foreigner friendly soaplands.[/QUOTE]On my way in a few weeks for my first Tokyo visit ever. Been diligently reading the board over the past month or so. Recently came across this Vice Article:
[URL]https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3vb7j/how-japans-secretive-soapland-brothels-operate\[/URL]
As someone who is always skeptical / critical of anything read on the internet, especially sites like Vice. Is there any truth to this article?
My primay concern is regarding pricing at the Soaplands in Yoshiwara. From reading the article if it isn't hyped. Getting laid at a Soapland could run you $700-1000 if my math is correct. Can anyone comment on this especially pricing at specific Soaplands in Yoshiwara.
Any assistance and advice is sincerely appreciated!
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Hmmmm
[QUOTE=NRandom940;2931770]Of the websites you posted earlier, which you pick as the best for foreigners? And how common is it to be about to negotiate for FS once you're in the room with them?[/QUOTE]If you want a more unquie Japanese experience I recommend city haven. The catch is finding a store that has a line account that you can message. Also check the girls pages themselves a lot of them have twitter and you can message them directly. The negotiation for F / S is a very much a millage may very. Though if they lost anal fuck on the profile way more likely to be an option. As I have stated before most girls will say switch. Have only had one occasion where the girl said only anal and I was two big. For most girls it's a code to say they offer full service I also wouldn't start untill your both naked and have touched each other. At that point she's more comfortable with you. If you come out the gate asking you can come off as aggressive which they don't want.
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[QUOTE=GaijinRoamer;2931744]I have a business trip to Tokyo coming up and would like a short term companion. Like the title states 1-2 weeks. I appreciate traditional mongering, but it would be nice to actually get to know someone over the course of a few dates. And I've found that my intimate interactions with women tend to get better when we have more opportunities to do it.
A friend went to Thailand last year, and he said he used a site that allowed him to basically rent a GF who also became some sort of translator / tour guide / companion. It sounded very convenient.
Are there any sites that cater to this specifically in Japan?[/QUOTE]You might try some of the dating sites, or classified personal ads pages. A few years ago, before the internet was de riguer, I used Metropolis magazine to get dates. I found one who was with me for several days; she wouldn't do overnites, but we managed a few day time encounters. I had separate dates many evenings / nights.
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Decided to try Tokyo Amateur due to Hazuki. Taxied to the location -- difficult to find. The booker speaks some English. Unfortunately she.
Was booked for the next 3 hours. Selected Kokoro.
This agency is much less user friendly than Tokyo Hentai. The booker wanted me to walk independently to a love hotel. It was too complicated.
To locate. The booker unhappily changed me to a love hotel next door. Booked the 2 hour option.
Chica arrives at your room. Kokoro may not have the tightest body but has a very cute face with big lips. Speaks virtually no English. Service.
Was a much better GFE than Hentai. Passionate and sensual. It was so relaxing that we both fell asleep. Highly recommend.
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Paradise No More
[QUOTE=JackWarlock;2931728]Hi can you tell me the location or name of the place? Thanks.[/QUOTE]That post is from 2019. Unfortunately Paradise closed a couple years ago. Real shame. It was run by same guys as THC and was amazing while it lasted. Boo.
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Gaijin ok tachinbo?
Just curious. I'm going to Tokyo in a few weeks and like the idea of hooking up with a tachinbo. As a gaijin, would that be possible in Shinjuku (Okubo Park) or Uguisudani?
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Thank you for this bit of info will remember for future trips.
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2931223]Hi, it is best not to follow the Nigerian touts, specifically those in Kabukicho at Shinjuku. They have a long history for drugging lone customers in bars and then robbing them. The US Embassy repeatedly warns about them. They are opportunistic and know how to hide their crimes, they lead people to second-rate titty bars, most that Japanese would not visit. Lucky for you if you are in a group. If you are alone and the bar is empty that is the most dangerous scenario. I have seen with my own two eyes them committing brazen crimes. For example several of them grabbed a ladies' purse and ran off - this was almost within view of a police station. Normally I walk past them but when nobody else was around one of them grabbed my arm so he could sell. A few will try to sell you drugs even though you are ignoring them and walking past them. They've been doing this a very long time.
The danger is particularly for those who are alone at a not busy time. Drugging incidents are reported every week:
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/Tokyo/comments/1e67bij/iphone_stolen_in_japan_and_is_now_in_nigeria/[/URL]
There are English speaking information shops in Kabukicho you can walk in. After 20 years I only use information shops because they are legit and directories of shops in the area. Keep in mind English speaking Asian touts are sometimes Chinese. I've spoken with them before and while they gave no trouble, all the shops they took me were 2nd rate, either run by Chinese or employing 2nd rate immigrant girls who were frankly quite ugly. I was curious though since I speak Chinese and asked him to take me a place Japanese customers would actually want, since all these other shops sucked. He took me to a Chinese hostess club, which was actually legit and good. I would not recommend going this route, I was young and adventurous then. But for those curious.
This guide is old but lists a few pinosaro, which is a blowjob bar. Not my thing but pretty unique to Japan where women come to you in rotation to give you a blowjob. As opposed to purely 1-on-1 blowjob shops. Sometimes featured in JAV:
[URL]https://rockitreports.com/foreigner-friendly-pink-salons-in-tokyo/[/URL][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MikeMark;2931885]On my way in a few weeks for my first Tokyo visit ever. Been diligently reading the board over the past month or so. Recently came across this Vice Article:
[URL]https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3vb7j/how-japans-secretive-soapland-brothels-operate\[/URL]
As someone who is always skeptical / critical of anything read on the internet, especially sites like Vice. Is there any truth to this article?
My primay concern is regarding pricing at the Soaplands in Yoshiwara. From reading the article if it isn't hyped. Getting laid at a Soapland could run you $700-1000 if my math is correct. Can anyone comment on this especially pricing at specific Soaplands in Yoshiwara.[/QUOTE]Yoshiwara is too expensive even by Japan standards. It is the Ginza of soaplands. I've poked my head in them with a friend out of curiosity since it is a historical site, but would not recommend.
For a detailed explanation of the sex business in Japan, with all the nuances of legality, here is a detailed interview with a Japanese SW. It will answer every question I have ever heard on this board about delivery health and soapland:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyn-qEYUn68[/URL]
For comparison, I will post the price list for Barubola soapland (see 2 images for details). It is foreigner friendly with a foreigner tax. For foreign customers it is 46,000 ($294) for 50 minutes and 61,000 ($390) for 90 minutes. For Japanese customers it is 26,000 ($166) for 50 minutes 41,000 ($262) for 90 minutes. Assuming the girls are attractive, that's about right: [URL]https://barubola.com/en/[/URL].
For a cheaper coice just to try the experience, see my post in the Yokohama thread of Kira Kira. No foreigner tax, been foreigner friendly for many years (used to be called Mermaid). 50 minutes for 18000 ($115). The women are going to be of lower caliber than Barubola, but the service will be good. You can see these women 7 times for the price you quoted for Yoshiwara.
Japan also offers a wide variety of play besides fs that is both legal and relatively cheap. If you have internet within Japan (or use VPN for Japan), use the cityheaven website. It is an excellent resource.
Finally, compare with the jgirl scene in the USA. In the last 2 years, kgirl agencies (and some corgs) now host Japanese girls at incall. The rate is about $320-$350 for 60mins. Options include $100 for bb and $200 for video. The girls tend to be early 20's, fairly attractive. See the USAG website for details. I do go to soap in Japan out of curiosity since the experience is different with the air mattress, body gel, etc..
Last attachment is one girl I paid video option for. I will not be posting proof but lots of other guys in LA saw her when she toured and if you know how she is #391375 to see her reviews. Those who know, know. She looks better in the photos but it's her. She was $340 for 1 hour, including shower together before and after.
So do not pay $700.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2932207]Yoshiwara is too expensive even by Japan standards. It is the Ginza of soaplands. I've poked my head in them with a friend out of curiosity since it is a historical site, but would not recommend.
For comparison, I will post the price list for Barubola soapland (see 2 images for details). It is foreigner friendly with a foreigner tax. For foreign customers it is 46,000 ($294) for 50 minutes and 61,000 ($390) for 90 minutes. For Japanese customers it is 26,000 ($166) for 50 minutes 41,000 ($262) for 90 minutes. Assuming the girls are attractive, that's about right: [URL]https://barubola.com/en/[/URL].
Japan also offers a wide variety of play besides fs that is both legal and relatively cheap. If you have internet within Japan (or use VPN for Japan), use the cityheaven website. It is an excellent resource.
[/QUOTE]Aside from the entry fee, what is the "tip" the girls are looking for once you're in the room?
Are the shops a better option?
Only going to be in Tokyo for a total of 6 days on the front and back end of a Thailand visit. Not looking to be cheap charlie. Not at all. But if I spend would like to get fair value and not get hosed.
Totally agree with your Japanese girls in US Korean run establishments. Many early 20's good looking Japanese girls with do an hour of BBFS in NYC for $500 all I'm. With MSOG.
And finally, thank you for your great and very informative posts!
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Hi, I'm going to Tokyo soon. Do you know these places? Do you recommend them?
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/[/URL]
[URL]https://paradise-tokyo.net/home[/URL]
[URL]https://bishojo.tokyo/[/URL]
They look to be branches of the same "company" but I don't know.
Also I am interested to know how the situation is around sex intercourse, I mean vaginal penetration. It looks to be illegal in Japan but maybe girl will do? Have I to ask?
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[QUOTE=Haikuzo;2933204]Hi, I'm going to Tokyo soon. Do you know these places? Do you recommend them?
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/[/URL]
[URL]https://paradise-tokyo.net/home[/URL]
[URL]https://bishojo.tokyo/[/URL]
They look to be branches of the same "company" but I don't know.
Also I am interested to know how the situation is around sex intercourse, I mean vaginal penetration. It looks to be illegal in Japan but maybe girl will do? Have I to ask?[/QUOTE]If you read back through a few posts, and use the search function, you should find answers to these questions.
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[QUOTE=MikeMark;2933148]Aside from the entry fee, what is the "tip" the girls are looking for once you're in the room?
Are the shops a better option?
Only going to be in Tokyo for a total of 6 days on the front and back end of a Thailand visit. Not looking to be cheap charlie. Not at all. But if I spend would like to get fair value and not get hosed.
Totally agree with your Japanese girls in US Korean run establishments. Many early 20's good looking Japanese girls with do an hour of BBFS in NYC for $500 all I'm. With MSOG.[/QUOTE]In my limited experience, soaplands will always give you FS for whatever price paid, no matter if you paid 18 k (cheap) or 90 k (too much) to enter. Yoshiwara is weird and separates it into two separate fees, a bathing fee (the shop) and a service fee (the girl) - so you might see a sign that says 22 k or 44 k but suddenly with service and gaijin tax it balloons to some stupid number.
But generally every other soapland is all-inclusive one price. So I got FS every time at soapland even though I paid 18 k ($117) or 22 k.
It is delivery health where you need to tip, because it is completely between you and the girl. Same with a stripper, it's up to her the tip and if she even offers (at DH some girls don't), so I've heard 1-3 man. The shop doesn't know, doesn't want to know, and will be pissed if you even try to bring it up with them. Any time you negotiate the girl, she is obliged to say "don't tell the shop" Exactly the same situation as strippers that fuck in the VIP. The strip club manager does NOT want to know and every girl says her own rate. It's hilarious because over time I learned the girls don't even know each other's rate.
But delivery health is far inferior to what you get in the US with kgirl agencies, so if you have access to that don't bother. Jgirls in the US are way better value for simple FS. I only go soapland because it is a unique experience and service in itself. The closest thing in the US is nuru but that's not half of it.
Thailand is of course even better value unless you are set on jgirls. You even get to 'interview' them in bars and pay the bar fine for whoever you like. What I would actually recommend in Japan are cheap and unique shops like oppai pubs where the girls are pretty much always young and attractive. There are HJ and BJ bars, those are 100% legal and generally cheap, but with any language barrier your choices are limited. And in my experience only a few have really cute girls. Most do not for weird reason. Stick with Japanese-run shops they will give you the best service.
As I mentioned, you are going during a ridiculously hot season. The good news is oppai pubs tend to open 6pm/8pm to 12pm/1am in Shinjuku. The bad news is you will miss your last train if you stay til close and aren't staying nearby. So just sample after dinner and see if you like. Fridays and Saturdays are nice days for Roppongi clubbing and people watching. The Shinjuku Manzoku information booth will direct you to legit places like oppai pubs and sexy cabarets, probably Luxe if you only speak English.
Or you can close your eyes and get serial blowjobs by 2-3 probably middle-aged women in a row, but it's just not my thing no matter how wild that sounds. I walked by that place three times but couldn't bring myself to go in. Instead, I went to what I think was called Super Angel, a sexy cabaret where you point at a girl by number and she shows up to you, hops on, and off you go (variant of oppai pub). Main reason I didn't go more is Super Angel was mostly Chinese and SE girls, though they all spoke Japanese and it was Japanese run. I prefer 100% Japanese girls, yes sir.
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[QUOTE=Haikuzo;2933204]Also I am interested to know how the situation is around sex intercourse, I mean vaginal penetration. It looks to be illegal in Japan but maybe girl will do? Have I to ask?[/QUOTE]Gambling is also illegal in Japan. But there are 7000+ pachinko parlors in Japan in plain sight. I went in and won $200 with beginners luck. To sum it up it's gambling. The pachinko parlor cannot give you any money. Yet somehow I turned those balls I won into real money at some back alley shop next door that had "nothing to do" with the pachinko parler. This random shop by coincidence was desperately trying to buy credits that pachinko balls will buy. Gee. Not gambling right. This system is 100% effective at stopping law enforcement in Japan by the way, because nobody cares about pachinko.
Pachinko is a legal fiction. So is soapland. Soapland started as "assisted bathing" for older men who could not wash themselves. In the same way that Pachinko is not gambling.
Not every DH girl does fs. Every soapland girl does.
Like gambling, soliciting for FS is illegal in Japan. So you pay soapland for money had the staff have "no idea" what goes on, they just run a timer and ask if you are happy after. Yet every girl fucks.
Or delivery health where you pick a girl and take her to a love hotel and you are paying her to suck you only. And yes, some girls only suck dick. But if you vibe with the girl your chances are much higher. They are there to make money and maybe meet a new regular they can add on line for freelance. YMMV.
The DH shop emphasizes that FS is totally illegal and it is absolutely not allowed. If it is hotel health they might even put a ton of stickers on the wall saying 'fs prostitution is illegal' over and over like wallpaper. But oh by the way this girl allows anal on their official menu, and you wonder if maybe for a tip she might have you miss the hole. There are zero other witnesses anyways. Do not discuss with anyone but the girl and nobody cares.
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Nyny?
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2933358]Not every DH girl does fs. Every soapland girl does.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Years ago, I went to a soapland in Ueno called NYNY that I had read about here that was foreigner-friendly. I think it's known for having older ladies. Anyway, I had to read and agree to a list of rules (in English) that specifically said no FS. I really hit it off with my masseuse, but again, no FS. The rooms even had little portholes where someone could look in to ensure that no funny business was going on. Clearly, I took this theater too seriously and didn't know how the game is played.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2933352]In my limited experience, soaplands will always give you FS for whatever price paid, no matter if you paid 18 k (cheap) or 90 k (too much) to enter. Yoshiwara is weird and separates it into two separate fees, a bathing fee (the shop) and a service fee (the girl) - so you might see a sign that says 22 k or 44 k but suddenly with service and gaijin tax it balloons to some stupid number.
But generally every other soapland is all-inclusive one price. So I got FS every time at soapland even though I paid 18 k ($117) or 22 k.
It is delivery health where you need to tip, because it is completely between you and the girl. Same with a stripper, it's up to her the tip and if she even offers (at DH some girls don't), so I've heard 1-3 man. The shop doesn't know, doesn't want to know, and will be pissed if you even try to bring it up with them. Any time you negotiate the girl, she is obliged to say "don't tell the shop" Exactly the same situation as strippers that fuck in the VIP. The strip club manager does NOT want to know and every girl says her own rate. It's hilarious because over time I learned the girls don't even know each other's rate.
But delivery health is far inferior to what you get in the US with kgirl agencies, so if you have access to that don't bother. Jgirls in the US are way better value for simple FS. I only go soapland because it is a unique experience and service in itself. The closest thing in the US is nuru but that's not half of it.
Thailand is of course even better value unless you are set on jgirls. You even get to 'interview' them in bars and pay the bar fine for whoever you like. What I would actually recommend in Japan are cheap and unique shops like oppai pubs where the girls are pretty much always young and attractive. There are HJ and BJ bars, those are 100% legal and generally cheap, but with any language barrier your choices are limited. And in my experience only a few have really cute girls. Most do not for weird reason. Stick with Japanese-run shops they will give you the best service.
As I mentioned, you are going during a ridiculously hot season. The good news is oppai pubs tend to open 6pm/8pm to 12pm/1am in Shinjuku. The bad news is you will miss your last train if you stay til close and aren't staying nearby. So just sample after dinner and see if you like. Fridays and Saturdays are nice days for Roppongi clubbing and people watching. The Shinjuku Manzoku information booth will direct you to legit places like oppai pubs and sexy cabarets, probably Luxe if you only speak English.
Or you can close your eyes and get serial blowjobs by 2-3 probably middle-aged women in a row, but it's just not my thing no matter how wild that sounds. I walked by that place three times but couldn't bring myself to go in. Instead, I went to what I think was called Super Angel, a sexy cabaret where you point at a girl by number and she shows up to you, hops on, and off you go (variant of oppai pub). Main reason I didn't go more is Super Angel was mostly Chinese and SE girls, though they all spoke Japanese and it was Japanese run. I prefer 100% Japanese girls, yes sir.[/QUOTE]I disagree that all delivery Health are all inferior. Like anything not all K shops are good. There are quite a few delivery health shops where you'll get the girlfriend experience. There's also a few that provide Full service. Notice I say provide full service not offer it there is a subtle difference. The catch is most of those are Japanese language only. So there not available to most foreigners. I have had a friend introduce introduce me to one of them.
The true barrier for most of us is the Japanese language. If you can speak the Japanese language everything gets easier. Plus Japan is the land of hidden Gems. Things that are available but never talked about. I was with my Japanese buddy in a drinking area one time. He talked to one of hawkers. The guy explained with this delivery health if you get 120 minutes or higher the girl will give you full service guaranteed. So full-service was available if certain options were picked. The problem is it does change from shop to shop.
Hell there is 100000 yen all night girlfriend service. 100000 which is about 700 give or take. The girl is yours for the night you want to eat drink the fuck all night or just go fuck she's yours for the night. The problem again is language barrier. It's Japanese speaking only. Sometimes it just takes time and friends. For those of you visiting it isn't the best but if your going to be where awhile it's great.
The reason most of us who live here won't do by name reviews as much. If I blast out and say this girl does full service. It has been known to get back to the store and the girl lose her Job. Happened to one of the fee girls I reviewed by name. Guy went tried to get full service she didn't like him so she denied it. So he contacted the shop and told them they had to let her go because there was a report of Full service.
The move for most of us who live here is see the girls via the store get there contact information. See them outside of the store with no rules. As of right now I have 5 keepers and least 10 others girls on call I can contact when I want to have fun.
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Tricked
[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;2933422]Interesting. Years ago, I went to a soapland in Ueno called NYNY that I had read about here that was foreigner-friendly. I think it's known for having older ladies. Anyway, I had to read and agree to a list of rules (in English) that specifically said no FS. I really hit it off with my masseuse, but again, no FS. The rooms even had little portholes where someone could look in to ensure that no funny business was going on. Clearly, I took this theater too seriously and didn't know how the game is played.[/QUOTE]Yeah you got the okie doke they set that up specifically to get a easy thing for there girl. If you ever go to a soapland and in "english" it says no full service get out it's a ganjin trap. Most soaplands will not ever mention anything sexual outright because it's just a bath house. Having anything sexual there would be illegal. Your just being bathed by a beautiful naked Japanese girl which is non sexual of course. The girls have taken to using twitter to advertise they have a list of rules for posting. Can't show condoms or anything resemblanling a bed in the picture. Honestly it sounds like you went to some massage place not a soapland.
All the good soaplands have emergency procedures in case of police inspections / raid. To get rid of all the condoms so they can't be tied to sex. In fact one of the main Job for the tencho is to delay the police long enough for the staff to warn all the girls and hide or ditch the condoms.
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[QUOTE=David032;2933480]
Hell there is 100000 yen all night girlfriend service. 100000 which is about 700 give or take. The girl is yours for the night you want to eat drink the fuck all night or just go fuck she's yours for the night. The problem again is language barrier. It's Japanese speaking only. Sometimes it just takes time and friends. For those of you visiting it isn't the best but if your going to be where awhile it's great.
...[/QUOTE]Greetings. I have contributed field report to this and other forums.
Could you provide info or a link or a PM regarding the all night girlfriend service?
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[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;2933422]Interesting. Years ago, I went to a soapland in Ueno called NYNY that I had read about here that was foreigner-friendly. I think it's known for having older ladies. Anyway, I had to read and agree to a list of rules (in English) that specifically said no FS. I really hit it off with my masseuse, but again, no FS. The rooms even had little portholes where someone could look in to ensure that no funny business was going on. Clearly, I took this theater too seriously and didn't know how the game is played.[/QUOTE]There are no Soaplands in Ueno, NYNY is a fashion health which is a incall version of a delivery health service.
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Shinjuku
This location is displaying on my Tik Tok feed with someone doing a walk about and with a lot of really attractive girls just hanging out looking for business. I realise some of these with the placards are canvassing for all kinds of venues but the rest seem to be freelancers. Is this a genuine thing in Shinjuku and worth doing, despits some of the reports below guarding against them?
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[QUOTE=HotDog666;2933583]This location is displaying on my Tik Tok feed with someone doing a walk about and with a lot of really attractive girls just hanging out looking for business. I realise some of these with the placards are canvassing for all kinds of venues but the rest seem to be freelancers. Is this a genuine thing in Shinjuku and worth doing, despits some of the reports below guarding against them?[/QUOTE]This is true but so many scams and underage girls and finally language barrier. It's honestly not worth the hassle to mess around with. If you speak pretty good Japanese it's worth a shot. If your going up to use Google translate good luck.
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[QUOTE=MikeMark;2931885]On my way in a few weeks for my first Tokyo visit ever. Been diligently reading the board over the past month or so. Recently came across this Vice Article:
[URL]https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3vb7j/how-japans-secretive-soapland-brothels-operate\[/URL]
As someone who is always skeptical / critical of anything read on the internet, especially sites like Vice. Is there any truth to this article?
My primay concern is regarding pricing at the Soaplands in Yoshiwara. From reading the article if it isn't hyped. Getting laid at a Soapland could run you $700-1000 if my math is correct. Can anyone comment on this especially pricing at specific Soaplands in Yoshiwara.
Any assistance and advice is sincerely appreciated![/QUOTE]I went to a few soaplands and getting laid was more like 150 $. But the only name I remember of soapys is club39.
There was no negotiating for FS or talk about FS. It just happened, or I just did it. Either way, I was prepared to be stopped, but it didn't happen (at the soapy).
And I got to experience the stool and nuru and whole shebang.
In a couple I made appointment with the girl over X and others I just showed up at the soapland.
The girls said they hadn't met many foreigners and seemed nervous and exited to see one, so that was kinda cute.
For me, 700 $ for an hour is quite insane price, even for delivery health. At most I spent 220 $/ h for deliveryhealth and that was with some options I wanted to try and min 2 h.
But yes, I've seen deliverystores that ask 100 k JPY / 700 $ for an hour.
See some different prices here:
[URL]https://eroticguide.tokyo/category/brothel-soapland/[/URL]
[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1311/shop-list/[/URL]
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Girls Bars near drinking areas
I'm new to Tokyo and I've been doing my research here in the forum. I've learned about soaplands, pink salons, massage places, etc, but one thing I still can't figure out.
Near subway stations, in areas where workers go for after work drinks, you can see these places with a sign outside showing pictures of girls and often girls outside trying to bring in customers.
What kind of places are these exactly?
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Where can I get it raw?
Hello can someone guide me, where can I get raw (no condom) fucking in Tokyo. I know the risks but I want to try. Does amateurtokyo allows to do it?
I also found out that vaginal sex is not included when you book the girl.
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Confused
[QUOTE=JackWarlock;2933832]Hello can someone guide me, where can I get raw (no condom) fucking in Tokyo. I know the risks but I want to try. Does amateurtokyo allows to do it?
I also found out that vaginal sex is not included when you book the girl.[/QUOTE]LOL are you looking or vaginal sex or raw. If its hard to find vaginal how hard do you think it will be to find raw.
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[QUOTE=JackWarlock;2933832]I also found out that vaginal sex is not included when you book the girl.[/QUOTE]It is not included when you book, because it is illegal. What happens when you are in private with the girl may be negotiable with her.
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Tokyo Rep
Hey guys,
I signed up to this forum to ask some questions about visiting the Philippines, but I figured I'd post in this thread to let you guys know that I live and work in Tokyo. For a long time I worked part-time in the nightlife of Kabukicho. Frankly I was doing some shady shit. Point is I know basically all the businesses in Shinjuku and many of my good friends are the girls who worked in the water business so if you have any questions at all I'd be happy to give my two cents.
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[QUOTE=Mgp23;2933811]I'm new to Tokyo and I've been doing my research here in the forum. I've learned about soaplands, pink salons, massage places, etc, but one thing I still can't figure out.
Near subway stations, in areas where workers go for after work drinks, you can see these places with a sign outside showing pictures of girls and often girls outside trying to bring in customers.
What kind of places are these exactly?[/QUOTE]Girls holding signs work for kyabakura ("cabaret clubs") which are effectively hostess bars. You pay by the hour and typically get nomihoudai (all you can drink). They'll talk to you, hold you arm, sing karaoke, etc. But for all intents and purposes it is not really sex work. That being said, I dated a couple kyabajo -- they will see you outside of work if they really like you.
Do not go to kyabakura if you don't speak Japanese because you won't have a good time. The doorman will usually ask if you speak Japanese and politely turn you away if you do not. I suggest visiting one of the international girls' bars if you like this kind of thing, usually a mix of Japanese and Filipina girls.
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Some places ask via email / phone / online-form about the country I am from. Are they looking to assess my skin color and ethnicity or where I permanently live or hold citizenship?
For example, if the client answers being from the USA, will the provider expect / assume that the client is a white guy?
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Not sure
[QUOTE=Baygon01;2934251]Some places ask via email / phone / online-form about the country I am from. Are they looking to assess my skin color and ethnicity or where I permanently live or hold citizenship?
For example, if the client answers being from the USA, will the provider expect / assume that the client is a white guy?[/QUOTE]I don't know the exact reason I do know some places have started banning Chinese and indian customers due to issues. They don't publicize it but I know quiet a few working girls who won't see guys from those countries.
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GFE Japan. Kawasaki
Kept hearing about this place, so I made a daytime trip. Let me say it was worth the wait! Very clean place, and as it says geared towards the non Japanese customer. Prices were reasonable, and the talent was spot on. One thing I did find interesting was that the front desk ladies were Pinay, but all the providers were Japanese. Everything is on the table there. Of course it says "soapie" but trust me, you get more than a bath there! Follow the link: [URL]https://gfe-japan.net/[/URL].
Safe Hunting!
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Seems Legit Like Paradise
[QUOTE=Drbombay;2934811]Kept hearing about this place, so I made a daytime trip. Let me say it was worth the wait! Very clean place, and as it says geared towards the non Japanese customer. Prices were reasonable, and the talent was spot on. One thing I did find interesting was that the front desk ladies were Pinay, but all the providers were Japanese. Everything is on the table there. Of course it says "soapie" but trust me, you get more than a bath there! Follow the link: [URL]https://gfe-japan.net/[/URL].
Safe Hunting![/QUOTE]Took a look at the website and got to say it looks legit due to the parallels with THC and the fact that THC used to run Paradise in Kawasaki pre-COVID. The whole vibe and layout of the website just screams it's the same group. I've always been a THC fan and went to Paradise twice and adored it. Think is could be the real deal. And Kawasaki is super easy to get to on the subway. Good find!
Oh and also the THC staff were usually Pinay (Philippine) which means excellent English and another tell that is prob associated with THC or former employees thereof.
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GFE is legit and just like THC. Same sort of operation.
There's also the GFE soapland, which is like the old Paradise and Rush Hour soaplands.
[URL]https://gfe-japan.net/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=JackWarlock;2933832]Hello can someone guide me, where can I get raw (no condom) fucking in Tokyo. I know the risks but I want to try. Does amateurtokyo allows to do it?
I also found out that vaginal sex is not included when you book the girl.[/QUOTE]Soaplands are the only place where you usually get vaginal.
It's illegal everywhere else.
They CAN do "AF" or anal fucking though.
Sometimes you pay for AF but get pussy. Other times you pay for AF and get actual anal sex.
I've been to maybe 35 soapland visits over 10 years. Always got vaginal sex.
With maybe 100 escorts I got vaginal maybe 5 times, and only when the lady suggested it.
When in Rome, do as the Romans. When in Japan, do as the Japanese. Enjoy a good handjob, blowjob, nuru massage, or maybe anal.
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I recently tried Akane from Tokyo Style.
This is her: [URL]https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/profile.php?cid=Akane[/URL].
Pictures don't seem to be edited much at all.
You can't see her face, but let's say she is VERY Japanese. This is what I imagine when I think "Asian woman. " Not the chubby tattooed ones you see so much now.
Petite, perky tits, cute little buns in her lingerie.
She spoke fluent English which made it really easy.
I was surprised by how shy she was. It made me wonder how it would go. But once she showered me I was in for a great massage.
She finished up with a BBBJ. Pretty good technique with lots of tongue.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2934812]Took a look at the website and got to say it looks legit due to the parallels with THC and the fact that THC used to run Paradise in Kawasaki pre-COVID. The whole vibe and layout of the website just screams it's the same group. I've always been a THC fan and went to Paradise twice and adored it. Think is could be the real deal. And Kawasaki is super easy to get to on the subway. Good find!
Oh and also the THC staff were usually Pinay (Philippine) which means excellent English and another tell that is prob associated with THC or former employees thereof.[/QUOTE]Trust me you can't go wrong going there. What actually sold me was I was looking at one of the providers profiles and saw that she has an X account. So I clicked to see if I could get a few better view pics. Followed provider and lo and behold got a DM back from her. Not the typical 3rd party. So that convinced me to go. I got a few "non work" photos of her and when I got there and met face to face, the language ability and the written ability pretty much matched so I know it wasn't someone else trolling to get me to go there. Bottom Line, made another trip the next day!
Plenty of good looking providers and they are set up for us gaijin types.
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[QUOTE=Drbombay;2934811]Kept hearing about this place, so I made a daytime trip. Let me say it was worth the wait! Very clean place, and as it says geared towards the non Japanese customer. Prices were reasonable, and the talent was spot on. One thing I did find interesting was that the front desk ladies were Pinay, but all the providers were Japanese. Everything is on the table there. Of course it says "soapie" but trust me, you get more than a bath there! Follow the link: [URL]https://gfe-japan.net/[/URL].
Safe Hunting![/QUOTE]I have read other posts where there is an uncharged for FS or AF. I know FS is not advertised as it is illegal but AF is permitted. Is the price listed on there site all inclusive?
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It's a soapland
[QUOTE=Romero001;2935007]I have read other posts where there is an uncharged for FS or AF. I know FS is not advertised as it is illegal but AF is permitted. Is the price listed on there site all inclusive?[/QUOTE]It's a soapland so price is all inclusive the only options are cosplay and threesomes. Soaplands won't say anything sexual because weridly unlike delivery health. They aren't listed as adults services. But they just happen to have a beautiful Japanese girls as bath attendants who are willing to bath you. That's why you won't see any sexual listed options. Because soapland are not an adult service. That being said just go there and enjoy don't ask for anything don't over think it just shut up and let it happen. You want to pick 90 minutes or longer it's the best course.
In some circles GFE doesn't have a good rep but truthfully that's because they treat there girls like crap but there customers like gold. They are slightly higher in price than some Japanese soaplands but with he quality and service it's balances out. They have had like three girls have very dangerous encounters with customers and they backed the customers not the girl.
They also do some underhanded business practices with other foreign friendly shops. They pretend to be customers and then cancel and did other random stuff. Basically giving foreigners a bad name and the shops stop accepting them.
All that being said with the soapland you will have a good experience. There girls will treat you right they get bonuses for being the most requested and the best reviewed girls. So they put a lot of effort into it.
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[QUOTE=JackWarlock;2933832]Hello can someone guide me, where can I get raw (no condom) fucking in Tokyo. I know the risks but I want to try. Does amateurtokyo allows to do it?
I also found out that vaginal sex is not included when you book the girl.[/QUOTE]If you want to fuck raw in Japan you need to play in Japanese and search the Japanese review sites. Many girls in Japan go raw, but it's usually a bit more expensive. The Japanese review sites also discuss which girls go raw.
There are code words for this which you can find on the Japanese review sites.
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This is true
[QUOTE=Xslikx;2935210]If you want to fuck raw in Japan you need to play in Japanese and search the Japanese review sites. Many girls in Japan go raw, but it's usually a bit more expensive. The Japanese review sites also discuss which girls go raw.
There are code words for this which you can find on the Japanese review sites.[/QUOTE]What he says is true but with one major issue. Japanese language barrier most of those shops are not foreigner friend and you need to be able to speak Japanese on the phone to make or confirm the appointment. Plus the girl has to be comfortable accepting foreigner. Some of the sites already mentioned here have girls that will go raw. The only thing is they will more than likely not do it the first time meeting you. They reserve it for repeat and or special customers. Though if the price is right all bets are off.
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[QUOTE=David032;2934319]I don't know the exact reason I do know some places have started banning Chinese and indian customers due to issues. They don't publicize it but I know quiet a few working girls who won't see guys from those countries.[/QUOTE]I assume that to be the case, if certain girls have had bad experiences and want to exclude a country. I have been to soaplands where only some of the girls would accept foreigners of any kind. Rules vary by shop.
In my experience, the shops only cared what country I was from. When I said USA and got the okay, they gave me an English rule sheet. I saw they had Chinese and Korean too. To answer OP's question, they would not and could not assume your race for saying USA. Some places will not accept black customers as well. It is common in the US, black being the most common restriction followed by Indian. Mainly for rough play or worse. So even though they only told the girl my nationality, I'm sure there are hidden restrictions besides that.
There is sometimes a size compatibility issue if you are magnum sized or bigger. But most girls can figure something out.
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[QUOTE=Bonico;2934057]Girls holding signs work for kyabakura ("cabaret clubs") which are effectively hostess bars. You pay by the hour and typically get nomihoudai (all you can drink). They'll talk to you, hold you arm, sing karaoke, etc. But for all intents and purposes it is not really sex work. That being said, I dated a couple kyabajo -- they will see you outside of work if they really like you.
Do not go to kyabakura if you don't speak Japanese because you won't have a good time. The doorman will usually ask if you speak Japanese and politely turn you away if you do not. I suggest visiting one of the international girls' bars if you like this kind of thing, usually a mix of Japanese and Filipina girls.[/QUOTE]I agree on kyabakura as far as language. When I could barely speak Japanese, I could get into some oppai pubs and full play (but not FS) places. But not kyabakura. Now that I can speak well, looking back it wouldn't have been fun.
Most of the girls holding up signs are for girl's bars, maid cafes, or some variation of it. More casual than kyabakura. Some areas have non-Japanese girls and I would not trust them since scams are a risk there. With legit Japanese-run establishments you can even see the IG for some of them, some are kind of cool small but owned and run by the girls themselves (this is not the norm). There's all kinds whether girls rotate or where it's just a small shop with 2-3 girls as the bartenders with no rotation - they stop by and check on you but on the plus side they don't ask you to buy them a drink.
I don't think it is what most guys are interested in since it is pretty tame, but I did go to one long ago in Osaka where it was very casual and the girls were nice. It's just to chat, a few have very cute girls and it was fun even with middling Japanese skills. I would say the one advantage is if you click with a particular girl, you can start with her. Once the shops get filled and the girls start working, they are no longer holding up signs outside of course. It was worth doing out of curiosity, but not a main attraction.
Again, beware of non-Japanese establishments.
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Someone said it first
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2935264]I assume that to be the case, if certain girls have had bad experiences and want to exclude a country. I have been to soaplands where only some of the girls would accept foreigners of any kind. Rules vary by shop.
In my experience, the shops only cared what country I was from. When I said USA and got the okay, they gave me an English rule sheet. I saw they had Chinese and Korean too. To answer OP's question, they would not and could not assume your race for saying USA. Some places will not accept black customers as well. It is common in the US, black being the most common restriction followed by Indian. Mainly for rough play or worse. So even though they only told the girl my nationality, I'm sure there are hidden restrictions besides that.
There is sometimes a size compatibility issue if you are magnum sized or bigger. But most girls can figure something out.[/QUOTE]The black thing isn't as big of an issue any more. Still crops up but I have never been denied service. Someone else said it first not me but indians have been blocked by many services. One for being aggressive and not respecting the girl and two for hygiene issues. One girl told me he came to a soapland and refused to take a shower or bath just wanted business done. Same soapland the multiple indians have put girls into dangerous situations that got them banned from the shop. Not that they cared because they were just visiting. So many girls who see foreigners won't see them. The sad part is the shop in questions doesn't really do anything to protect the girls. So at that shop the girls can't even refuse indian customers.
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[QUOTE=David032;2935288]The black thing isn't as big of an issue any more. Still crops up but I have never been denied service. Someone else said it first not me but indians have been blocked by many services. One for being aggressive and not respecting the girl and two for hygiene issues. One girl told me he came to a soapland and refused to take a shower or bath just wanted business done. Same soapland the multiple indians have put girls into dangerous situations that got them banned from the shop. Not that they cared because they were just visiting. So many girls who see foreigners won't see them. The sad part is the shop in questions doesn't really do anything to protect the girls. So at that shop the girls can't even refuse indian customers.[/QUOTE]Right, often the first two rules are you must wash and you can't verbally or physically abuse the girl. I've never heard the same anecdote twice about Indians but they include: roughly sticking their finger deep into the girl's anus without asking, bad hygene where the girl would only allow doggy due to the smell, and trying to run off without paying (incall service). But the place I use does allow Indians (I pass by them as they leave), these are just what girls say were their experiences. As you say, it doesn't help that they don't seem to care about rules or the law being from abroad. There are certainly good Indian customers. I think the problem is back in India people simply abuse SWs without problems.
Glad to hear they're not banning blacks as much, I see more customers these days too but figured it was still an issue.
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Yup
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2935366]Right, often the first two rules are you must wash and you can't verbally or physically abuse the girl. I've never heard the same anecdote twice about Indians but they include: roughly sticking their finger deep into the girl's anus without asking, bad hygene where the girl would only allow doggy due to the smell, and trying to run off without paying (incall service). But the place I use does allow Indians (I pass by them as they leave), these are just what girls say were their experiences. As you say, it doesn't help that they don't seem to care about rules or the law being from abroad. There are certainly good Indian customers. I think the problem is back in India people simply abuse SWs without problems.
Glad to hear they're not banning blacks as much, I see more customers these days too but figured it was still an issue.[/QUOTE]Yeah most of the foreigner friendly places or places that cater exclusively to foreigners don't allow girls to enforce the first two rules. Girl I am friends with works at one I keep trying to get her to quit and go to another shop. But she makes way to much money even with the danger and lack of protection from the shop.
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[QUOTE=Romero001;2935007]I have read other posts where there is an uncharged for FS or AF. I know FS is not advertised as it is illegal but AF is permitted. Is the price listed on there site all inclusive?[/QUOTE]It's up to the provider. I got FS there on my first visit. So if she is into you, it can happen. No extra fee for that either.
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Street offers in Shinjiku?
Hi everyone,
I recently moved to Japan longer term and looking to explore the night life more. I tried last year Tokyo Hentai Club twice. The experience was good, both girls were very clean, good-looking ladies and overall an amazing company. One of them is still engraved in my memory and I'm thinking at times of visiting her again.
However, I'm still a younger guy and eager to explore, not settling for one option.
Recently I've been to Shinjiku and noticed there are lots of people offering stuff on the streets. I found out they say basically anything is on the table: just talking to a girl - 3000 yen, talking and touching - 8000, sex - 15,000. Others offered a massage for 3000. I like spontaneous experiences much more than pre-arranged ones. Researching the best operation ahead of time, booking a girl in advance. All fine and great but will not compare with a spontaneous decision to follow a stranger while drunk after clubbing.
However, I know there must be a lot of scam in those offers. Like I keep seeing the advice not to engage with the african people who offer such stuff. But I also saw some Japanese people speaking to me about it. And, there are those rows of dressed-up girls just standing along the street advertising something like girl bars, for a similar price?
At this point I'm looking to just get my toes wet, and have an hour-long experience just talking to a girl with possibility to touch, possibly in an intimate setting where it's just the two of us.
Soooo, I'm a bit lost. Basically my questions:
1) Are those prices I quoted realistic? E. g. If I just want to speak to a girl touching her for an hour, is 8000 legit, or will she rip me off for drinks for a load of money?
2) I know sex is illegal to sell in Japan, and e. G. "legit" brands like THC officially say they don't do it, but unofficially you can talk to the girls about it. I know also at THC the prices are MUCH higher than 15 k, like, if you want sex, it would be upward of 35 k in total. So, is what's the deal with the 15 k offer from a street guy?
3) How do I know a scam from not-a-scam? My guess is the african people must be scam, but the Japanese wouldn't be, what do you think?
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Street hawkers
[QUOTE=Mantis343;2936049]Hi everyone,
I recently moved to Japan longer term and looking to explore the night life more. I tried last year Tokyo Hentai Club twice. The experience was good, both girls were very clean, good-looking ladies and overall an amazing company. One of them is still engraved in my memory and I'm thinking at times of visiting her again.
However, I'm still a younger guy and eager to explore, not settling for one option.
Recently I've been to Shinjiku and noticed there are lots of people offering stuff on the streets. I found out they say basically anything is on the table: just talking to a girl - 3000 yen, talking and touching - 8000, sex - 15,000. Others offered a massage for 3000. I like spontaneous experiences much more than pre-arranged ones. Researching the best operation ahead of time, booking a girl in advance. All fine and great but will not compare with a spontaneous decision to follow a stranger while drunk after clubbing.
However, I know there must be a lot of scam in those offers. Like I keep seeing the advice not to engage with the african people who offer such stuff. But I also saw some Japanese people speaking to me about it. And, there are those rows of dressed-up girls just standing along the street advertising something like girl bars, for a similar price?
At this point I'm looking to just get my toes wet, and have an hour-long experience just talking to a girl with possibility to touch, possibly in an intimate setting where it's just the two of us.
Soooo, I'm a bit lost. Basically my questions:
1) Are those prices I quoted realistic? E. g. If I just want to speak to a girl touching her for an hour, is 8000 legit, or will she rip me off for drinks for a load of money?
2) I know sex is illegal to sell in Japan, and e. G. "legit" brands like THC officially say they don't do it, but unofficially you can talk to the girls about it. I know also at THC the prices are MUCH higher than 15 k, like, if you want sex, it would be upward of 35 k in total. So, is what's the deal with the 15 k offer from a street guy?
3) How do I know a scam from not-a-scam? My guess is the african people must be scam, but the Japanese wouldn't be, what do you think?[/QUOTE]Honestly no idea how tell what's a scam besides the fact. If they are approaching you on the street as a foreigner it's either a scam or illegal as hell period. The good news is they don't run prostitution stings here like they do in the US. The person your talking to won't be a cop. There version of sting is to watch everything happen then come in stop you and question you. Keep in mind they can detain you for up to 25 days to question you if they want. Sure the likelyhood is low but the possibility is there.
Though I would also say the likelyhood of a street hawkers that approached you first being illegal is low. It's more if you approached them first. The ones that approach you are going off the fact your foreignor and know sex work is legal. So they promise you everything get you into a shady little place. Give you a handjob at most kick you on your way. What are you going to do call the police. Hell if you create an issue the shop itself will call the police. Cause your the one complaining about not getting an illegal service. Of course the shop would never do that. Guess what the speak Japanese you don't and your in a red light area. Your going to lose that argument 9 times out of 10.
Just remember this sex work as a whole is legal. To many foreigners have tried to do things they do in other places thinking they can get away with it. They get rough or aggressive, they make the girl do something she didn't want to do, they try and record it without paying, they take the girls money and run away while the girls in the bathroom. The shops will call the police and the love hotel or hotel will give up the video tapes the day off. Know of a least 5 services members pending legal actions for trying similar things with working girls thinking they wouldn't be reported guess what they got reported career ruined.
Below is a link that lists a bunch of shops that allow foreigners give it a try.
[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/shop-list/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Mantis343;2936049]1) Are those prices I quoted realistic? E. g. If I just want to speak to a girl touching her for an hour, is 8000 legit, or will she rip me off for drinks for a load of money?
2) I know sex is illegal to sell in Japan, and e. G. "legit" brands like THC officially say they don't do it, but unofficially you can talk to the girls about it. I know also at THC the prices are MUCH higher than 15 k, like, if you want sex, it would be upward of 35 k in total. So, is what's the deal with the 15 k offer from a street guy?
3) How do I know a scam from not-a-scam? My guess is the african people must be scam, but the Japanese wouldn't be, what do you think?[/QUOTE]If it's a scam, it's going to be at a scam bar worst case. You can just go to a legit foreigner-friendly places like Luxe:
[URL]https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/[/URL]
It is 6000 yen to 8000 yen (depends on hour of the day) for their promo rate. I don't deal with the Nigerian touts but any tout could take you there if you absolutely insist on it. They get paid a finder's fee from Luxe, it's all open and honest there. Luxe is a "touch girls all you want" club (kissing and boobs okay but don't touch a girl's privates) and at least has Japanese girls. Many of the staff at Luxe are native English speakers who have clearly lived many years in the US. Search this forum about the club. It is pretty good for a club that caters to foreigners.
There are "24 hour information shops" all over Shinjuku and you see the "18 years and up only" curtains in front of them. Just walk in and ask for any place that is "English ok". Manzoku is what Japanese use, but there is one I can't remember the name of the shop that is English staff. Plastered on the walls are all the top clubs mostly oppai pubs and hostess bars or fetish clubs. But you won't find FS or delivery clubs, which is what you seem to be curious about. However you did say you want an adventure so you will definitely find something you can't find elsewhere.
If you mean all the girls standing in a row holding up signs, you probably mean this:
[URL]https://youtu.be/zK-fGht1QEI?t=333[/URL]
You wouldn't be interested unless you speak enough Japanese to enjoy it. I mean go ahead if you find a girl your type I guess but there is some minimum of language needed to have fun.
For FS, don't rely on touts and research online before you go. I'd give this same advice even to 100% Japanese customers. Don't rely on touts for fs, it just sucks. I mean, I tried a dozen times and every place they took me to sucked. Zero of the places they took me were Japanese. Believe me, they sucked - the girls were ugly foreign girls and that's not half of it.
What's amazing is considering every place I found myself or through Manzoku was amazingly good. Really says something about the Shinjuku tout's (nigerian / chinese) business plan. Ripping off foreigners.
I did not have this issue with touts in other cities, just Tokyo.
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More details about oppai bars
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2936239]If it's a scam, it's going to be at a scam bar worst case. You can just go to a legit foreigner-friendly places like Luxe:
[URL]https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/[/URL]
[/QUOTE]I will be visiting Japan soon and I was hoping to get some more information.
I have read the forums and luxe seems to be the only option for English friendly oppai bar. So, I had a few questions:
1. How safe is it in terms of hygiene of girls there at luxe? Do they clean up after every customer?
2. Are these bars safe in terms of STDs? I do understand that kissing has lower probability but since it is there, I wanted to know how prevalent it is. Or what the risks are?
3. Are there any other places apart from luxe? Which are good and safe?
Thanks!
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Good reason why street walkers aren't recommended
Found this on my Twitter feed there are many sites like it. They take pictures of working girls and there customers and post it on twitter. Sometimes the people don't even know they have been photographed.
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[QUOTE=Juniper1111;2936567]I will be visiting Japan soon and I was hoping to get some more information.
I have read the forums and luxe seems to be the only option for English friendly oppai bar. So, I had a few questions:
1. How safe is it in terms of hygiene of girls there at luxe? Do they clean up after every customer?
2. Are these bars safe in terms of STDs? I do understand that kissing has lower probability but since it is there, I wanted to know how prevalent it is. Or what the risks are?
3. Are there any other places apart from luxe? Which are good and safe?
Thanks![/QUOTE]The girls clean after each customer but it is up to your level of comfort. A fast food version of US strip clubs where you might do the same.
Kissing limits things. Some are lfk while a few are dfk. You ask about the risks and while I'd say the risks are low I will list them. Most people in the US already have oral herpes (50 to 80) but if you haven't kissed girls much this might be your first exposure. Those cause cold sores in the mouth, it is so common not worth mentioning. Not to be confused with genital herpes which is more associated with fs. Then there is also some strains of HPV which there is a vaccine for. Kissing has a pretty short list of stds compared to fs. I have never had any issues, only problem was when trying FS places. Again it is up to your level of comfort.
So I am only speaking of Shinjuku. The Manzoku staff which is a 3rd party service said Luxe were the only openly foreigner friendly oppai pub in that area. But implicitly they mean Japanese-run with Japanese girls. The customers were majority foreigner so the girls know a little English or at least how to roll with it. The staff speak English and are expecting their share of foreign customers.
Shinjuku has the most oppai pubs in Japan as far as I'm aware. Other cities and parts of Tokyo have them, some only one. It is funny that in Japan, certain cities specialize in certain clubs or have a lot of one type. It is very regional.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2935266]I agree on kyabakura as far as language. When I could barely speak Japanese, I could get into some oppai pubs and full play (but not FS) places. But not kyabakura. Now that I can speak well, looking back it wouldn't have been fun.
Most of the girls holding up signs are for girl's bars, maid cafes, or some variation of it. More casual than kyabakura. Some areas have non-Japanese girls and I would not trust them since scams are a risk there. With legit Japanese-run establishments you can even see the IG for some of them, some are kind of cool small but owned and run by the girls themselves (this is not the norm). There's all kinds whether girls rotate or where it's just a small shop with 2-3 girls as the bartenders with no rotation - they stop by and check on you but on the plus side they don't ask you to buy them a drink.
I don't think it is what most guys are interested in since it is pretty tame, but I did go to one long ago in Osaka where it was very casual and the girls were nice. It's just to chat, a few have very cute girls and it was fun even with middling Japanese skills. I would say the one advantage is if you click with a particular girl, you can start with her. Once the shops get filled and the girls start working, they are no longer holding up signs outside of course. It was worth doing out of curiosity, but not a main attraction.
Again, beware of non-Japanese establishments.[/QUOTE]I am more sympathetic towards non-Japanese-run establishments than most, perhaps because I work with a lot of foreign nationals (chiefly Filipinos, Africans) around Kabukicho. I think these girls bars are a great option for those who don't speak a lick of Japanese. There is certainly a higher degree of caution that must be taken. Don't use your credit card. Don't follow random African touts if it can be helped. Don't stick around if nobody's in the bar, or if things feel off.
If anyone's interested I can give a few examples of international kyabakura that are safe and worth your time.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2936662]The girls clean after each customer but it is up to your level of comfort. A fast food version of US strip clubs where you might do the same.
Kissing limits things. Some are lfk while a few are dfk. You ask about the risks and while I'd say the risks are low I will list them. Most people in the US already have oral herpes (50 to 80) but if you haven't kissed girls much this might be your first exposure. Those cause cold sores in the mouth, it is so common not worth mentioning. Not to be confused with genital herpes which is more associated with fs. Then there is also some strains of HPV which there is a vaccine for. Kissing has a pretty short list of stds compared to fs. I have never had any issues, only problem was when trying FS places. Again it is up to your level of comfort.
So I am only speaking of Shinjuku. The Manzoku staff which is a 3rd party service said Luxe were the only openly foreigner friendly oppai pub in that area. But implicitly they mean Japanese-run with Japanese girls. The customers were majority foreigner so the girls know a little English or at least how to roll with it. The staff speak English and are expecting their share of foreign customers.
Shinjuku has the most oppai pubs in Japan as far as I'm aware. Other cities and parts of Tokyo have them, some only one. It is funny that in Japan, certain cities specialize in certain clubs or have a lot of one type. It is very regional.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the detailed response. I will consider this before taking a decision.
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Day 1: I went to the incall location of [URL]http://amateurtokyo.com/.[/URL] They had only 2 girls for me to choose from at around noon. The girl was heavier than her pictures. If I would have been choosing in person, I would have declined everything. The total cost for 50 minutes (including a short time hotel room next door) was 25,500 yen (about $172 usd). This price is too high for what it's worth to me, with girls you can't see before buying and BJ only.
Day 2: Went to Kira Kira soapland in a Yokohama. I know there's a separate Yokohama forum, but it's close enough to Tokyo so I hope it's okay to post it here. I went there just after 1 pm. They showed me photos of 3 girls that I could choose from. I didn't like any of them so I asked if I could pick a girl from the website and make a reservation for later. They said yes. I picked a girl and they told me she doesn't accept non-Japanese speakers. Then they brought me photos of the girls I could make reservations with. Luckily, one of them was to my taste, then I had to wait until 2:30 p to meet her. It was cool sliding around on the inflatable mattress and getting all soapy and slippery. But on the other hand it kind of wastes a lot of time. It made me think of a time I was in Sao Paolo Brazil and the girls were wasting too much time in the shower so my 30 minutes ended up being only 15 and I felt scammed. It felt like she was trying to rush the sex once we got to it. And when I didn't finish quickly through either sex, oral, or hand. Then she asked me to finish myself with my hand. So I finished myself 99% then let her take over for the last 1% when I finished with her handjob. The cost was 31000 yen, but they said if I visit 8 times I become a member then it becomes 15000 yen (for 70 minutes). Overall, I'd say it was OK. That goopy soap they use for sliding around on the mattress makes for some interesting sex lubricant.
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[QUOTE=Bonico;2936676]I am more sympathetic towards non-Japanese-run establishments than most, perhaps because I work with a lot of foreign nationals (chiefly Filipinos, Africans) around Kabukicho. I think these girls bars are a great option for those who don't speak a lick of Japanese. There is certainly a higher degree of caution that must be taken. Don't use your credit card. Don't follow random African touts if it can be helped. Don't stick around if nobody's in the bar, or if things feel off.
If anyone's interested I can give a few examples of international kyabakura that are safe and worth your time.[/QUOTE]Yes there are certainly good non-Japanese establishments. But not always easy for a newer tourist to know which to go to, and as you say there is some risk. Both news and the US consulate warn in particular of underground Kabukicho bars recommended by touts, and lately even downtown Yokohama bars. It is just a few shady bars a tout might take you to but that is the risk.
To give one example of what the term underground bar means. In one case when someone was drugged and overcharged / robbed at a bar, they were the only customer. He filed a police report and when the police went to the bar, it was completely emptied and gone. It is no surprise that the bar would be near empty if drugging was going on. And emptying the bar when not scamming just shows that's all the bar exists for and even the bar owner is involved - this was no mistake or one-off at their bar. But other scams involve over-charging with a low entry fee but a higher "2nd hour" fee, including where girls invite guys and dash to leave them with the whole bill. All kinds of variations of these. This video covers just 2 examples:
[URL]https://youtu.be/NeZUOFKOUeI?t=315[/URL]
I'd even say that when I was in other cities like Nagoya, every tout was legit because they were either a direct shop employee (standing outside on a slow day) or a manzoku employee. Probably on account of Nagoya being not a tourist destination, so downtown caters to locals. Manzoku would not send you to a bad place because they money off repeat visits. I have a 100% success rate going with their recommendation. That is how I found Luxe, Hosekinobako, Leicester, etc. Every shop is clearly advertised on the wall so these are not underground places, they are legit establishments competing to give good service. I've gone to oppai pubs sporadically for 20 years and service is emphasized there just like the rest of Japan.
I have written this already but there was one Chinese run kyabakura that was actually good, and the girls were open to take out. I spoke enough Chinese to have fun. The problem is the Chinese tout took me to 12 places in a row that sucked before finally taking me there, probably because the other places offered bjs and more and probably gave a better finder's fee. It would be pages to write them all out but I would just sum them up by saying they really sucked and the girls were ugly. I am easy to please so I don't say that for nothing. I am sure there are other good non-Japanese bars, I've heard of them, but that is just my experience. If there is a reliable non-Japanese shop I hope we recommend and support them.
I believe you can see an example of a Manzoku shop just left-center of this video with big red letters. I'm not great at kanji but the first two characters are "muryou" as in "free information booth":
[URL]https://youtu.be/NeZUOFKOUeI?t=492[/URL]
If you are shy and not sure, just ask any guy inside if "English ok" or just walk around quietly looking at the signs. Someone there might be able to speak enough. We all start somewhere. They get paid a small finders fee if they connect you to a shop that accepts you, so they will help you if they think they can. Depending on what you want.
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Not the best value
I also visited Amateur Tokyo recently and felt the same. I arrived in the late afternoon and was shown a binder with the system prices. I think locals may get a cheaper price because I noticed that the page I was shown showed prices that were cheaper than on the web site. I had thought I was in the wrong place but then the guy working there showed me another page with the same prices as on the web site. There is no signage outside of the building but the access page on the web site is accurate and the shop is the only thing upstairs. I don't speak any Japanese and I am unsure about the English level of the worker there because he didn't say much. I was shown a handful of girls available and after making my selection was told to pay 27.5 k for 65 minutes: 21 k + 2 k admission +2 k nomination fee + 2. 5 k?. It was unclear what the extra 2. 5 k was for; I think maybe because it was my first time there. I was given a ticket and told to return in 45 minutes.
When I came back, they told me to go to Hotel Top (two buildings down) and the girl came to the room a couple of minutes later. The girl was pleasant enough but did not speak and English. The face on the pictures are a little photoshopped but I would say it is pretty accurate and the age of the girl seemed correct. It was the standard SOP (shower, some play on the bed, BBBJ, another shower).
I did have to pay the hotel 5 k for the room because it was after 5:00 PM (which seems a bit high IMO) so all in I was out 32.5 k for an hour of play. For that amount, it doesn't seem like a good value and if I'm spending that amount I would look at other places next time.
P.S. The guy working at the hotel has a surely attitude and seems like an asshole. I would avoid Hotel Top.
[QUOTE=NRandom940;2936930]Day 1: I went to the incall location of [URL]http://amateurtokyo.com/.[/URL] They had only 2 girls for me to choose from at around noon. The girl was heavier than her pictures. If I would have been choosing in person, I would have declined everything. The total cost for 50 minutes (including a short time hotel room next door) was 25,500 yen (about $172 usd). This price is too high for what it's worth to me, with girls you can't see before buying and BJ only.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KingSquared;2938365]I also visited Amateur Tokyo recently and felt the same. I arrived in the late afternoon and was shown a binder with the system prices. I think locals may get a cheaper price because I noticed that the page I was shown showed prices that were cheaper than on the web site. I had thought I was in the wrong place but then the guy working there showed me another page with the same prices as on the web site. There is no signage outside of the building but the access page on the web site is accurate and the shop is the only thing upstairs. I don't speak any Japanese and I am unsure about the English level of the worker there because he didn't say much. I was shown a handful of girls available and after making my selection was told to pay 27.5 k for 65 minutes: 21 k + 2 k admission +2 k nomination fee + 2. 5 k?. It was unclear what the extra 2. 5 k was for; I think maybe because it was my first time there. I was given a ticket and told to return in 45 minutes.
When I came back, they told me to go to Hotel Top (two buildings down) and the girl came to the room a couple of minutes later. The girl was pleasant enough but did not speak and English. The face on the pictures are a little photoshopped but I would say it is pretty accurate and the age of the girl seemed correct. It was the standard SOP (shower, some play on the bed, BBBJ, another shower).
I did have to pay the hotel 5 k for the room because it was after 5:00 PM (which seems a bit high IMO) so all in I was out 32.5 k for an hour of play. For that amount, it doesn't seem like a good value and if I'm spending that amount I would look at other places next time.
P.S. The guy working at the hotel has a surely attitude and seems like an asshole. I would avoid Hotel Top.[/QUOTE]Are you experienced in Tokyo? What do you think is the best value? It's always disappointing when FS isn't on the menu.
Have you (or anyone else here) tried sites like this one.
[URL]https://www.milf-escort-tokyo.jp/girls_list.html[/URL]
Is it a high probability that if I pay for anal as extra service that it will end up being FS (vaginal)?
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From reading USA Sex Guide and other sources on t seems that there's an influx of Japanese women escorting in the USA, especially in New York City. So it seems it has become easier to be services by Japanese women in NYC than in Japan, at a similar cost. Right or wrong?
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[QUOTE=Baygon01;2938636]From reading USA Sex Guide and other sources on t seems that there's an influx of Japanese women escorting in the USA, especially in New York City. So it seems it has become easier to be services by Japanese women in NYC than in Japan, at a similar cost. Right or wrong?[/QUOTE]It's actually not really a similar cost. The girls I have seen in NYC where charging like 400 500 bucks an hour the cheapest was 300 an hour. In Japan I can 2 hours unlimited pops for the cheaper price or those prices. For 500 US I can get like 4 hours in Japan. The reason most are going is because they know they can make way more there than in Japan. I can get just a BJ in Japan for as cheap as 40 bucks.
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[QUOTE=Baygon01;2938636]From reading USA Sex Guide and other sources on t seems that there's an influx of Japanese women escorting in the USA, especially in New York City. So it seems it has become easier to be services by Japanese women in NYC than in Japan, at a similar cost. Right or wrong?[/QUOTE]Hi, I am an active contributor to USAG and have seen many jgirls, written plenty of guides. I have also used Japan for a very long time. So I can directly compare. I know I am disagreeing with David here on some things and I think it is important we each give our own honest opinion. I am not saying he is wrong, his opinion is very valuable. I do think he would be very satisfied if he tried these jgirls in the US. So I am just giving my own opinion and experience to paint a better picture. I don't intend to post about this topic anymore, it's been beaten to death by people who should be asking in USAG instead. I or someone else will answer it there.
The price is more in the US, but for what you get there is absolutely no contest for FS. The US is way better. The least attractive jgirls I saw in the US were way younger and more beautiful than the average jgirl I saw in Japan FS. I will post below the two least attractive girls I saw. Both were early 20's. Most girls coming were 20-24 and looked it, there are very few older girls but they'd have to bring something to compensate. The caveat is jgirls struggle to beat kgirls at service (DFK, BBBJ skill and duration, begging for cock, etc.). A lot of people won't touch jgirls because they acknowledge they are cute but don't compare to kgirls. I visit jgirls not expecting them to.
Whether looks or service, the very worst jgirl I had in the US was still better than the average Japan FS girl. Which is to say she was way younger, way cuter, and sucked and fucked way better. I have hours of video but no I'm never going to post them just to win some internet contest. You just do whatever you want and give your own opinion after, how about that.
I will say many of the fs jgirls in the US were more attractive than many jgirls even in oppai pubs. If we compare the average, the average is slightly higher for US jgirls. As someone who has gone to oppai pubs a ridiculous number of times over 20 years, I can say that.
Of course I have to point out every time I say jgirl I am referring to OP's question of jgirls who fly from Japan to work in the US. I am not talking about some Japanese American independent girl or someone who happens to be Japanese in the US. You can find Japanese milfs, it's not common but they exist. No, I am answering OP's specific question about touring jgirls. Emphasis on touring.
In the US, the average rate I paid was 330 for 60 minutes across 8 girls. Video is 200, bb is 100. Yes in New York the corgs have some exclusive pricing where a girl can be 400 or 500 but that is usually literally a few days before it drops towards 350. It is the early simp price, or some people joke the stretch her out first price. Almost no one pays that. At least I can't remember anyone paying 500 out of the last pages of reviews.
The corgs and korgs do not allow any girl to last even a few days if she doesn't perform to standard. I have seen girls get cut and sent off on their very first day. If she didn't get cut it is too late because word is out among us. My personal experience is If I am one of the first couple of customers I get texted after by booker asking if they should keep a girl or not (I have always said yes but others do not and the girl gets cut). It's brutal. Most girls are above an 8 out of 10 on T** (I guess that site is censored here?), under a 7 will get you cut. I'll be completely honest most FS girls in Japan would barely get a 5 to 7 due to the service gap. I have tried well over a hundred girls in both countries but go ahead and share your own comparison if you have it. Just talking averages here. I'm not even going to compare the looks which is a way bigger gap.
The reason jgirls in the US perform way better is they are competing against kgirls and they have to perform the full menu or don't even bother coming to the US. Shower preview, DFK, proper cock worship, MSOG. In Japan they even have charts showing which girls do what. Cool. Jgirls in the US do not get those charts, they are expected to do everything kgirls do with some leniency if they are super cute. Which is exactly why most of the girls who come end up being very cute and young in a roundabout way. If a jgirl (or even a young enough kgirl) misses a menu item like a proper shower preview on demand, we cut them slack if they're cute and suck our dick well. Otherwise they get cut. Word spreads fast it is not just USAG that is all I'll say.
Jgirls come because corgs and korgs will book them 8-12 appointments a day, and the percentage cut is way more than Japanese shops. I LINE my second favorite girl and asked why she doesn't just work at a shop in Japan. She said it doesn't make enough money. It's less than a third and closer to a fourth. I know how much she made in the US but won't say for safety. It is ridiculous. It checked out when I calculated an estimate (I know some kgirls' take and jgirls make more because of how they tour and offering video for 200). They are not just coming to the US BTW, it's a lot of countries. None of the top girls work in Japan at all. No point in trying, I see my favorite girl post updates and it is all of her having fun all summer. It is wild. I will admit I then jerk off to her videos. Everybody does.
My comparison does not even account for the fact that jgirls in the US are 100% foreigner friendly, not to mention extra options like bb and video should you choose. Or that you aren't even guarateed FS in delivery and it usually adds a tip. To state the obvious, while I can get service in Japan because I speak Japanese, obviously most American's have many hurdles not just language when visiting. I did have a good time in Japan with some weird options I can't try in the US. It just is not in the same league. I think I only try it out of curiosity alone while I happen to be in Japan. I basically have unlimited funds.
Where Japan really shines is everything besides FS. Dirt cheap and legal As David says, bjs are a steal in Japan. The best value anywhere in my opinion. You could go cheaper if you are willing to compromise a little. =) Amazingly, certain bj and hj bars do have very cute girls. See my post about them earlier.
Oppai pubs and some of the better hj/bj bars do have some cute girls, better than typical fs girls. Everybody knows this, no contest. I have often chatted with the Manzoku staff before and after for fun and Japanese customers make that comparison all the time. Even I'm tired of hearing it. The staff asks if they'd rather go delivery or soap and the Japanese customer says they're just going to get another baba (grandma but it's hyperbole of course) there. Baba bakkari another person said. I've seen the reverse where the Japanese customer asks the staff about FS and the staff first asks if they're okay with expecting slightly older women, the guy says nah and so the staff this time says yeah FS is baba anyways right. Not saying all delivery are like this but this is a bit of Japanese humor to exaggerate the reality. Many years ago when I went to Yoshiwara as I've told, I went with a friend. We poked our heads in many shops and my friend who is Japanese asks if the girls are "really 22" as advertised (they are fucking not BTW 22 could mean 25-35). And the staff guy gets super defensive and a bit pissed, he said - I still remember this vividly - "What (the fuck) did you expect? Morning Musume?" I added the fuck because his rude way of talking was basically saying that. His rudeness gives away the reality, he simply admitted it. That is how laughable the claim you find cute girls in soapland is - even the staff can't say it with a straight face. Hope that clears things up.
There are a few super high end soaps that promise this or that. I'm sure the girls are better looking, better service, or JAV stars. Cool. But at that point we are well past US prices.
Look, let's be real. The cutest girls don't do fs in Japan, or they fly to the US and get paid for being cute for fs (they won't in Japan). Maybe you or I can find a cute young girl in delivery health a few times. Sure. That is not the norm. I've talked to too many guys who got that reality check. I don't like hearing about people wasting money. If you are curious though and Japan is closer than the US, then cool. By all means you will have fun in Japan.
Cherry picking our best experiences doesn't count. So what I've done is compare my two worst jgirls. I'll post their public ad photos they used below. They both had decent skill and could both take a pounding, many positions, a long time. That's them with extra make up on (they don't do full make up for FS or it would get all over you). The girls don't look as good without make up but were still cute. Just not as cute as the other 6, 2 of whom were simply beautiful.
Can we now just stick to Tokyo threads here? I hope people have their question answered now. Ask US questions in the US forum. That's what I do.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2938754]Hi, I am an active contributor to USAG and have seen many jgirls, written plenty of guides. I have also used Japan for a very long time. So I can directly compare. I know I am disagreeing with David here on some things and I think it is important we each give our own honest opinion. I am not saying he is wrong, his opinion is very valuable. I do think he would be very satisfied if he tried these jgirls in the US. So I am just giving my own opinion and experience to paint a better picture. I don't intend to post about this topic anymore, it's been beaten to death by people who should be asking in USAG instead. I or someone else will answer it there.
The price is more in the US, but for what you get there is absolutely no contest for FS. The US is way better. The least attractive jgirls I saw in the US were way younger and more beautiful than the average jgirl I saw in Japan FS. I will post below the two least attractive girls I saw. Both were early 20's. Most girls coming were 20-24 and looked it, there are very few older girls but they'd have to bring something to compensate. The caveat is jgirls struggle to beat kgirls at service (DFK, BBBJ skill and duration, begging for cock, etc.). A lot of people won't touch jgirls because they acknowledge they are cute but don't compare to kgirls. I visit jgirls not expecting them to.
Whether looks or service, the very worst jgirl I had in the US was still better than the average Japan FS girl. Which is to say she was way younger, way cuter, and sucked and fucked way better. I have hours of video but no I'm never going to post them just to win some internet contest. You just do whatever you want and give your own opinion after, how about that.
I will say many of the fs jgirls in the US were more attractive than many jgirls even in oppai pubs. If we compare the average, the average is slightly higher for US jgirls. As someone who has gone to oppai pubs a ridiculous number of times over 20 years, I can say that.
Of course I have to point out every time I say jgirl I am referring to OP's question of jgirls who fly from Japan to work in the US. I am not talking about some Japanese American independent girl or someone who happens to be Japanese in the US. You can find Japanese milfs, it's not common but they exist. No, I am answering OP's specific question about touring jgirls. Emphasis on touring.
In the US, the average rate I paid was 330 for 60 minutes across 8 girls. Video is 200, bb is 100. Yes in New York the corgs have some exclusive pricing where a girl can be 400 or 500 but that is usually literally a few days before it drops towards 350. It is the early simp price, or some people joke the stretch her out first price. Almost no one pays that. At least I can't remember anyone paying 500 out of the last pages of reviews.
The corgs and korgs do not allow any girl to last even a few days if she doesn't perform to standard. I have seen girls get cut and sent off on their very first day. If she didn't get cut it is too late because word is out among us. My personal experience is If I am one of the first couple of customers I get texted after by booker asking if they should keep a girl or not (I have always said yes but others do not and the girl gets cut). It's brutal. Most girls are above an 8 out of 10 on T** (I guess that site is censored here?), under a 7 will get you cut. I'll be completely honest most FS girls in Japan would barely get a 5 to 7 due to the service gap. I have tried well over a hundred girls in both countries but go ahead and share your own comparison if you have it. Just talking averages here. I'm not even going to compare the looks which is a way bigger gap.
The reason jgirls in the US perform way better is they are competing against kgirls and they have to perform the full menu or don't even bother coming to the US. Shower preview, DFK, proper cock worship, MSOG. In Japan they even have charts showing which girls do what. Cool. Jgirls in the US do not get those charts, they are expected to do everything kgirls do with some leniency if they are super cute. Which is exactly why most of the girls who come end up being very cute and young in a roundabout way. If a jgirl (or even a young enough kgirl) misses a menu item like a proper shower preview on demand, we cut them slack if they're cute and suck our dick well. Otherwise they get cut. Word spreads fast it is not just USAG that is all I'll say.
Jgirls come because corgs and korgs will book them 8-12 appointments a day, and the percentage cut is way more than Japanese shops. I LINE my second favorite girl and asked why she doesn't just work at a shop in Japan. She said it doesn't make enough money. It's less than a third and closer to a fourth. I know how much she made in the US but won't say for safety. It is ridiculous. It checked out when I calculated an estimate (I know some kgirls' take and jgirls make more because of how they tour and offering video for 200). They are not just coming to the US BTW, it's a lot of countries. None of the top girls work in Japan at all. No point in trying, I see my favorite girl post updates and it is all of her having fun all summer. It is wild. I will admit I then jerk off to her videos. Everybody does.
My comparison does not even account for the fact that jgirls in the US are 100% foreigner friendly, not to mention extra options like bb and video should you choose. Or that you aren't even guarateed FS in delivery and it usually adds a tip. To state the obvious, while I can get service in Japan because I speak Japanese, obviously most American's have many hurdles not just language when visiting. I did have a good time in Japan with some weird options I can't try in the US. It just is not in the same league. I think I only try it out of curiosity alone while I happen to be in Japan. I basically have unlimited funds.
Where Japan really shines is everything besides FS. Dirt cheap and legal As David says, bjs are a steal in Japan. The best value anywhere in my opinion. You could go cheaper if you are willing to compromise a little. =) Amazingly, certain bj and hj bars do have very cute girls. See my post about them earlier.
Oppai pubs and some of the better hj/bj bars do have some cute girls, better than typical fs girls. Everybody knows this, no contest. I have often chatted with the Manzoku staff before and after for fun and Japanese customers make that comparison all the time. Even I'm tired of hearing it. The staff asks if they'd rather go delivery or soap and the Japanese customer says they're just going to get another baba (grandma but it's hyperbole of course) there. Baba bakkari another person said. I've seen the reverse where the Japanese customer asks the staff about FS and the staff first asks if they're okay with expecting slightly older women, the guy says nah and so the staff this time says yeah FS is baba anyways right. Not saying all delivery are like this but this is a bit of Japanese humor to exaggerate the reality. Many years ago when I went to Yoshiwara as I've told, I went with a friend. We poked our heads in many shops and my friend who is Japanese asks if the girls are "really 22" as advertised (they are fucking not BTW 22 could mean 25-35). And the staff guy gets super defensive and a bit pissed, he said - I still remember this vividly - "What (the fuck) did you expect? Morning Musume?" I added the fuck because his rude way of talking was basically saying that. His rudeness gives away the reality, he simply admitted it. That is how laughable the claim you find cute girls in soapland is - even the staff can't say it with a straight face. Hope that clears things up.
There are a few super high end soaps that promise this or that. I'm sure the girls are better looking, better service, or JAV stars. Cool. But at that point we are well past US prices.
Look, let's be real. The cutest girls don't do fs in Japan, or they fly to the US and get paid for being cute for fs (they won't in Japan). Maybe you or I can find a cute young girl in delivery health a few times. Sure. That is not the norm. I've talked to too many guys who got that reality check. I don't like hearing about people wasting money. If you are curious though and Japan is closer than the US, then cool. By all means you will have fun in Japan.
Cherry picking our best experiences doesn't count. So what I've done is compare my two worst jgirls. I'll post their public ad photos they used below. They both had decent skill and could both take a pounding, many positions, a long time. That's them with extra make up on (they don't do full make up for FS or it would get all over you). The girls don't look as good without make up but were still cute. Just not as cute as the other 6, 2 of whom were simply beautiful.
Can we now just stick to Tokyo threads here? I hope people have their question answered now. Ask US questions in the US forum. That's what I do.
[/QUOTE]He is actually spot with many points but the main point I disagree with is Japanese places do have FS yes the girls don't offer it because that's illegal. But most girls will offer it privately. But then again remember it's business they want repeat customer yaIdon't go to most of the agency's alot of you go to. They foreigner friendly ones tend have the older girl while the Japanese ones have the younger girls. But the Japanese agencies have plenty of girls who offer FS. But the average person on this forum just won't crack that nut. I always get FS so my view is skewed because of it. To me it does cost more in the US and way less in Japan. Also the service is 100 times better here. Truthfully I think it does really come down Ymmv. But the bottom line for me is I won't get arrested for visiting a girl in Japan. I have 4 Japanese girls ready at all times two of which have a standing offer for creampies. So please disregard that FS can not be found in Japan. My prices below.
For 8 girls in Japan.
90 minutes (I never do less) 40000 FS included multiple pops.
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[QUOTE=David032;2938907] But the Japanese agencies have plenty of girls who offer FS. But the average person on this forum just won't crack that nut. I always get FS so my view is skewed because of it. To me it does cost more in the US and way less in Japan. Also the service is 100 times better here. Truthfully I think it does really come down Ymmv. But the bottom line for me is I won't get arrested for visiting a girl in Japan. I have 4 Japanese girls ready at all times two of which have a standing offer for creampies. So please disregard that FS can not be found in Japan. My prices below.[/QUOTE]Yes at delivery and soap anyone can get FS, foreigners included. To be clear this advice is for other people and not you - soap is a bit easier because it's always included. So language barrier solved. No girl is going to ask you for a tip. So as a foreigner even without any Japanese, that's going to be your better bet. With delivery you are going to have to ask and frankly some girls won't even if most do. And most ask for a tip, some girls have straight up said it depends on the guy (they will fuck one guy for free and charge another guy). You may not have had girls refuse FS at delivery, but plenty of Japanese locals have. It is not just a race thing but what the girl thinks of you and there are some girls who really don't do FS. There are some disgusting Japanese customers after all.
So I try to say that the most important questions for guys is your Japanese level, and if you are visiting Japan anyways or actually already coming from the US. As I said, I try to be cautious because I don't like hearing people say it was a waste or they were disappointed in Japan. There is plenty of fun but you have to match it with what you want and have realistic expectations. When I say you are better off going non-FS in Japan if you have options at home, that's just my opinion. Some guys are obsessed with it so go ahead but research back a few pages to get a better picture first.
With a big caveat, I don't agree on the service being better in Japan. I think it's good in Japan, and anyone who has had random FS in the US is not always going to get good service. Anyone who gets FS at a kgirl shop will. It's a lot better than fs in Japan, if you see those charts of sex acts a particular shop girl will do in Japan, most of what girls won't do is not just standard but required at korgs. The charts include bareback blowjob, deep kiss, nipple licking, licking pussy, fingering, (plus some weird shit) etc.. that for some girls are less than half filled out when it is the norm for kgirls. So I can understand people saying "FS in the US is worse" because it sure is. FS at a kgirl shop is superior however. Very few jgirls deep kiss and most don't know how to suck dick is my main complaint, I can overlook everything else honestly. I have seen well over a hundred girls between the two countries, I am not trying to bash Japan, I had lots of fun. I'm not sure there is anyone here besides me who has actually tried enough of both to compare. Please speak up if you had.
So I just do not want people who have actually gone to a korg to come to Japan expecting "100 times better" because they are in for a shock. Lucky if it is even half is good. The only thing that amuses me is getting soaped up like a JAV or harassing a girl in uniform before fs, everything else is half as good. They are going to waste their money even if it's cheaper, when they could have tried something like an oppai pub that doesn't exist back home.
But again, everyone has to give their own take. I think David's experiences are a good example of how far you can get if you just learn the local language. Especially as he says if you pick girls you like to see again. That's a win. I would say a few years of serious study got me in most places, but the more the better.
The original OP's question was about touring jgirls. Not random FS in the US, even with people who happen to be Japanese or Korean for example. Everything I've said are about jgirls at korgs. Jgirls at corgs are one tier down, they are sometimes as good, or not. Corgs hire by looks and will try to book 12+ guys a day. I wouldn't touch them, but locals must love them. The girls get good fast. If jgirls are good enough, they get hired at the korg through that route. My #2 favorite was originally a corg and you can tell from her corg reviews that she didn't know what she was doing (she started at 19 and it was her first time doing sw ever). But after 500 happy cocks she got hired at a korg months later. I don't want to make another long post but New York is a very different situation than LOS Angeles. But we share a few of the same girls.
T** (I think the site is censored here) is a good example. Most random white / latina girls on T** get anywhere from a 3 to a 7. A few excellent outliers exist above 7. Every jgirl in the past 6 months in my area has been 8-9, excepting girls who were kicked no surprise. The kicked girls were a 7 BTW. A kgirl will not last unless she's a 7-9. Of course T** is actually two ratings, looks and service. No surprise the jgirls are always higher on their looks rating and lower on their service rating. Every one. Kgirls are 50-50 which one is higher. Speaks volumes on their gimmick. There is a huge difference between a 7 and an 8 on T** assuming the reviews are legit. The reviews have to be legit once they reach multi-page and I know a lot of the reviewers by name.
So I will then say about the previous poster's original question, it is about the recent trend of touring jgirls. In the last 2-3 years only. When they work for a kgirl shop, their service is superior because they get cut if they don't. That's why I don't even touch a corg, she might be good she might not. No different in Japan actually. I have tried FS at non-Japanese places and it straight up sucks. The worst jgirl I saw in the US was better than the best jgirl I saw in Japan.
At first there were a dozen girls who were former JAV stars. 100% confirmed as the real girls, I literally sent screenshots to reviewers and they confirmed them. Most of the JAV was in the early waves, but there's a lot less now. Because most JAV girls can't cut it and get kicked. But a really young cute girl just might.
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Very detailed
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2939040]Snip[/QUOTE]Thank you for the run down Traveler, thanks to your post (and my experiences last year in Japan and Korea) I'm also lowering my expectations for exceptional FS service in Japan. To keep things on topic, last year when I was in Japan I kept getting harassed by a Chinese lady offering "massages" while walking around Shinjuku. I told her I only wanted a "massage" from an actual Japanese girl. She took me to a love hotel and walked me into a room with a tall Thai / Filipino looking lady, I laughed and walked out. She then kept following me outside while making phone calls in Japanese, she said that a very beautiful Japanese girl was ready and only 5 minutes away. To my surprise a very beautiful Japanese girl showed up 5 minutes later and we agreed on 30 k for an hour of FS. I took her to my hotel where we both showered, I ate her out, she gave me CBJ, and the we fucked for about 15 minutes. There was very little if no kissing, and after I came she was already putting on her clothes and getting ready to leave. I'm definitely not going with street walkers the next time I go to Japan.
I agree that if a Japanese girl really wanted to fuck like American men want (BBBJ DT, DFK, condom-optional, multiple positions, multiple pops per hour) she would just come to America and make a shitload of money at a Korg or Corg. Unfortunately for me I am only verified at Korgs and they never seem to have any J girls working. I am going to get my fill of K pussy before I go to Japan next month and then test my luck at the Oppai bars.
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Jgirls in US and Japan
Hi, Newbie here.
Currently in US and planning a short visit to Japan in September. Can speak fluent Japanese but no mongering experience either in Japan or US.
Before moving to Japan, I am tempted to try Japanese girls in the US. I know this is not a question on this forum, but would appreciate any pointers for Chicago area from Traveler X.
Also, what are the best value for money options for someone speaking fluent Japanese in Tokyo area, both for soaps as well as deli health.
I am interested in meeting genuine slender Japanese girls.
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2938754]Hi, I am an active contributor to USAG and have seen many jgirls, written plenty of guides. I have also used Japan for a very long time. So I can directly compare. I know I am disagreeing with David here on some things and I think it is important we each give our own honest opinion. I am not saying he is wrong, his opinion is very valuable. I do think he would be very satisfied if he tried these jgirls in the US. So I am just giving my own opinion and experience to paint a better picture. I don't intend to post about this topic anymore, it's been beaten to death by people who should be asking in USAG instead. I or someone else will answer it there.
The price is more in the US, but for what you get there is absolutely no contest for FS. The US is way better. The least attractive jgirls I saw in the US were way younger and more beautiful than the average jgirl I saw in Japan FS. I will post below the two least attractive girls I saw. Both were early 20's. Most girls coming were 20-24 and looked it, there are very few older girls but they'd have to bring something to compensate. The caveat is jgirls struggle to beat kgirls at service (DFK, BBBJ skill and duration, begging for cock, etc.). A lot of people won't touch jgirls because they acknowledge they are cute but don't compare to kgirls. I visit jgirls not expecting them to..[/QUOTE]
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Japan Summary & Honest Recommendation
I've mongered pretty much all of Asia (SE anyway. Thai, Phil, Cambodia, Vietnam, Bali). Have not been to Japan; I understand the nuisance of the law (no vaginal). I've read the threads.
1. Japan Thread Summary. Bias against foreigner sex, but there are some soaplands and massage places that are friendly. Some agencies to hotel as well. However, whether you can get good ole FS vaginal sex is entirely hit or miss. It is more "no" then "yes". Fucking without a condom pretty rare, even with understanding it will cost more (which is only fair).
Correct?
2. Honest Vote. Understanding this is Tokyo forum and likely a favorable bias to Japan, my question. I have a month in late March / early April.
Choice A. Back to Thailand. Phuket and BKK for entire 4 weeks.
Choice be. 2 weeks Thailand and 2 weeks Japan.
+ Thailand Only. FS and usually BB for me is pretty much given with little issues on past 4 trips (money talks as does some charm and a smile). Nice beaches and I can train muay thai while fucking at night.
- Thailand Only. Been to Thailand 4 times. My favorite place but I've seen it all.
+ Japan. Fascinated with looks of Japanese women and would like to see the place.
- Japan. While I combine tourism and mongering on trips, if I only got BJs and occasionally FS (particularly if always covered) I'd consider it a letdown. Like I said I am willing to pay more.
Recommendations? A or be.
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Us k girls vs jp jpan girls
This traveler guy is half right about k-girls in Japan.
But he forgets one thing and it's the little things that count.
There ain't no K-girl with big titties who will do outcall to your home and go a-level on camera with no cap.
That's where Jpn has you beat my friends, LOL. Sure I can get nice FS from a regular K-girl, but sometimes I'm too lazy to go out hunting for it. When I can just order custom delivery to my shack.
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[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2939725]I've mongered pretty much all of Asia (SE anyway. Thai, Phil, Cambodia, Vietnam, Bali). Have not been to Japan; I understand the nuisance of the law (no vaginal). I've read the threads.
1. Japan Thread Summary. Bias against foreigner sex, but there are some soaplands and massage places that are friendly. Some agencies to hotel as well. However, whether you can get good ole FS vaginal sex is entirely hit or miss. It is more "no" then "yes". Fucking without a condom pretty rare, even with understanding it will cost more (which is only fair).
Correct?
2. Honest Vote. Understanding this is Tokyo forum and likely a favorable bias to Japan, my question. I have a month in late March / early April.
Choice A. Back to Thailand. Phuket and BKK for entire 4 weeks.
Choice be. 2 weeks Thailand and 2 weeks Japan.
+ Thailand Only. FS and usually BB for me is pretty much given with little issues on past 4 trips (money talks as does some charm and a smile). Nice beaches and I can train muay thai while fucking at night.
- Thailand Only. Been to Thailand 4 times. My favorite place but I've seen it all.
+ Japan. Fascinated with looks of Japanese women and would like to see the place.
- Japan. While I combine tourism and mongering on trips, if I only got BJs and occasionally FS (particularly if always covered) I'd consider it a letdown. Like I said I am willing to pay more.
Recommendations? A or be.[/QUOTE]First, my apologies for quoting the whole post! Don't flame me!
Vaginal sex in Japan is quite easy to get if you really understand how the system works in Japan.
1.) There is a loophole in the law that allows Soaplands to offer Vaginal Intercourse. I think you'll find 99.9% of reports from soaplands, FS is standard. The problem is that not every soapland allows foreigners. So, you just have to find ones that do.
Some that are reported as being foreigner friendly in Tokyo are:
- Versaille - [URL]https://y-versailles.com/access/[/URL].
- why Shirt - [URL]https://www.y-shirt.jp/sp/top.php[/URL].
- Silky Doll.
- Cream Lemon.
- Prima Donna.
- Etc.
What I understand is that you might not get a choice of any girl you want, only some of the girls service foreigners.
There is one in Gotanda (near Shinagawa station) that I went to called Happiness.
[URL]https://tokyo.happiness-group.com/top.html[/URL]
If you want to go, just call and ask if they speak English (33521;35486;12434;35441;12379;12414;12377;12363; / Eigo o hanasemasu ka) and they will pass you on to a guy there that does.
I had a GREAT experience there in April 2023 (44 000 JPY for 80 minutes).
2.) Delivery Health Services. Like Tokyo Hentai Club. Some girls will offer FS, but as been said on this board.
A.) it costs more (assume 10 000 JPY or more).
Be.) sometimes it comes down to whether the girl likes you.
Here are a list of places, if you want FS, look for girls who offer FS.
(prices in JPY for 2 hour sessions. Includes delivery fee to Shinagawa area, + CIM option).
THC - [URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/[/URL] (56000 + 10 K min for sex).
Tokyo Style - [URL]https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/top.php[/URL] (48000).
Aroma Fantasy - [URL]https://aroma-fantasy.com/en_top/[/URL] (40000,90 minutes, HJ only).
Paradise - [URL]https://paradise-tokyo.net/home[/URL] (51000).
Mana - [URL]https://manatokyo.com/top.php[/URL] (50000).
Shady Motion - [URL]https://www.shadymotion.com/en/top/[/URL] (51000).
Asian Mystique - [URL]https://asianmystique.com/[/URL] (35000, guaranteed FS).
Amateur Tokyo - [URL]amateurtokyo.com[/URL]/ system. Php (41000).
Gingira - [URL]http://www.gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html[/URL] (65000).
The lone standout there where FS is guaranteed is Asian Mystique. I really had a great experience there the one time I used them.
Now, as someone who has been to Tokyo twice and Bangkok twice (and Hong Kong 9 times over the last 10 years). Nothing really compares to Thailand. But Thailand is just a pain to get to from the East Coast of the US where I am. I always loved the Wan Chai bar scene pre-COVID, a bit more expensive than Bangkok, but loved the bars and the variety (I dig the GFE you get from Pinays).
The thing to look for on girls profiles is if they offer Anal, that typically means there is a FS option. .
I would say try Japan for a few days. It is a fun city, the food is amazing and there is lots to do in addition to our hobby. It is more expensive though, you can pretty much assume spending twice as much on a hotel per night but I like it.
One other thing, I also noticed BBFS is pretty common at Nana now. I was 4 for 4 on my trip last December. I don't think it as common in Tokyo though. So that is something else to consider.
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[QUOTE=HkPunter99;2939843]First, my apologies for quoting the whole post! Don't flame me!
Vaginal sex in Japan is quite easy to get if you really understand how the system works in Japan.
1.) There is a loophole in the law that allows Soaplands to offer Vaginal Intercourse. I think you'll find 99.9% of reports from soaplands, FS is standard. The problem is that not every soapland allows foreigners. So, you just have to find ones that do.
Some that are reported as being foreigner friendly in Tokyo are:
- Versaille - [URL]https://y-versailles.com/access/[/URL].
- why Shirt - [URL]https://www.y-shirt.jp/sp/top.php[/URL].
- Silky Doll.
- Cream Lemon.
- Prima Donna.
- Etc.
consider.[/QUOTE]HK thanks for the info. Also an east coast USA guy. After reading your suggestions and fact that I'm a tourist + punter on trips I'm leaning toward Japan + Thailand. Try something new as you say, and your roadmap is excellent.
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[QUOTE=HkPunter99;2939843]
The lone standout there where FS is guaranteed is Asian Mystique. I really had a great experience there the one time I used them.
[/QUOTE]I ordered 3 girls from AM. All provided FS.
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Visiting Japan
So was visiting Japan for work, read the forum here and took some of the advice. I was staying in Yokosuka which is as dead as hell. So decided to try gfesoapland up in Kawasaki. Let tell you what, it was fun as hell. The girl I saw Marin tried to convince me to come back because they are running a threesome discount in September. I think I just might because no cover was offered as an option. Which normally isn't offered from what I have read She also hinted that return customers get access to a special hole if they will give her bonus. Will repeat and try the threesome, she recommend a threesome with her and a girl called a Rana think I am going to try as they are both ranked number one and two at the place.
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It depends
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2939898]HK thanks for the info. Also an east coast USA guy. After reading your suggestions and fact that I'm a tourist + punter on trips I'm leaning toward Japan + Thailand. Try something new as you say, and your roadmap is excellent.[/QUOTE]It all depends on your preference as purely a punter trip Thailand wins hands down. As a tourist / punter trip Japan wins for me personnelly. Japan generally does take a little more effort as you've more than likely read as FS isn't exactly legal. Put there are quite a few places that bridge that. But a little more effort into and you'll get everything you want.
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[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2939898]HK thanks for the info. Also an east coast USA guy. After reading your suggestions and fact that I'm a tourist + punter on trips I'm leaning toward Japan + Thailand. Try something new as you say, and your roadmap is excellent.[/QUOTE]My pleasure! I realized there were some typos in my note, not enough coffee yesterday morning when I wrote it so glad it was helpful!
Although not a comprehensive list, I did a google map of the area that has a high concentration of Soaplands.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/search/soapland/@35.7245257[/URL], 139.7942702,18 z / data=!4 m2!2 m1!6 e1.
These are in an area that is North West of the heart of Tokyo, an area named Taito City. This matters because of choosing where to stay and recognizing that it could be a trek to get to them if you stay in the south of the city.
Also, if you're a public transportation guy, and use an iPhone, I suggest adding the Suica card to your Apple Wallet and then spending a bit of time learning the subway system in Tokyo. It's an amazing way to get around the city!
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[QUOTE=HkPunter99;2940068]My pleasure! I realized there were some typos in my note, not enough coffee yesterday morning when I wrote it so glad it was helpful!
Although not a comprehensive list, I did a google map of the area that has a high concentration of Soaplands.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/search/soapland/@35.7245257[/URL], 139.7942702,18 z / data=!4 m2!2 m1!6 e1.
These are in an area that is North West of the heart of Tokyo, an area named Taito City. This matters because of choosing where to stay and recognizing that it could be a trek to get to them if you stay in the south of the city.
Also, if you're a public transportation guy, and use an iPhone, I suggest adding the Suica card to your Apple Wallet and then spending a bit of time learning the subway system in Tokyo. It's an amazing way to get around the city![/QUOTE]Thanks HK. I am a mass transportation guy depending on ease of use and cleanliness. BKK all the time. Other places mostly uber or lyft.
Luckily, I've been to Thailand so much that piece of trip was planned in about 10 minutes. Japan on the other hand. Holy shit that's a big and complicated looking city. One needs a PhD for the subway system map. I'm going to have to dig into the research once I'm back from quick trip to Rio in couple weeks. Since I do tourist stuff too I'm assuming I need to find a happy middle ground for hotel basecamp from the point you mentioned? Maybe dilemma of how much time one will monger versus sight see and explore.
I generally stay at higher end hotels (usually Marriott JW or Hyatt like hotels). I'm reading most in Tokyo will not hassle you for bringing in girls. True? I'm assuming it's like NYC and they wouldn't know or give a shit anyway.
I try and make effort learning key words and phrases when I travel (at least makes girls smile sometimes) so I can have some rapport. But obviously will be relying on iphone translators in Japan. How has your experience been with that and the interaction with the girls? Some like PHI and Thailand use it better than I do with no issue establishing rapport. Some like Cambodia its mood killing I'd rather jerkoff experience.
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Don't worry about subway
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2940210]Thanks HK. I am a mass transportation guy depending on ease of use and cleanliness. BKK all the time. Other places mostly uber or lyft.
Luckily, I've been to Thailand so much that piece of trip was planned in about 10 minutes. Japan on the other hand. Holy shit that's a big and complicated looking city. One needs a PhD for the subway system map. I'm going to have to dig into the research once I'm back from quick trip to Rio in couple weeks. Since I do tourist stuff too I'm assuming I need to find a happy middle ground for hotel basecamp from the point you mentioned? Maybe dilemma of how much time one will monger versus sight see and explore.
I generally stay at higher end hotels (usually Marriott JW or Hyatt like hotels). I'm reading most in Tokyo will not hassle you for bringing in girls. True? I'm assuming it's like NYC and they wouldn't know or give a shit anyway.
I try and make effort learning key words and phrases when I travel (at least makes girls smile sometimes) so I can have some rapport. But obviously will be relying on iphone translators in Japan. How has your experience been with that and the interaction with the girls? Some like PHI and Thailand use it better than I do with no issue establishing rapport. Some like Cambodia its mood killing I'd rather jerkoff experience.[/QUOTE]Honestly don't worry about getting around. Google maps will give you great directions it even tell you exactly which platform number to look for. Also taxis are everywhere.
As for translators your experiences will vary. If you go for some of the forgien friendly ones mentioned here, gfesoapland, henti, shadymotion asian mistque, they will all be fine with it. I have yet to have an issue with translators yet.
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[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2940210]Thanks HK. I am a mass transportation guy depending on ease of use and cleanliness. BKK all the time. Other places mostly uber or lyft.
Luckily, I've been to Thailand so much that piece of trip was planned in about 10 minutes. Japan on the other hand. Holy shit that's a big and complicated looking city. One needs a PhD for the subway system map. I'm going to have to dig into the research once I'm back from quick trip to Rio in couple weeks. Since I do tourist stuff too I'm assuming I need to find a happy middle ground for hotel basecamp from the point you mentioned? Maybe dilemma of how much time one will monger versus sight see and explore.
I generally stay at higher end hotels (usually Marriott JW or Hyatt like hotels). I'm reading most in Tokyo will not hassle you for bringing in girls. True? I'm assuming it's like NYC and they wouldn't know or give a shit anyway.
I try and make effort learning key words and phrases when I travel (at least makes girls smile sometimes) so I can have some rapport. But obviously will be relying on iphone translators in Japan. How has your experience been with that and the interaction with the girls? Some like PHI and Thailand use it better than I do with no issue establishing rapport. Some like Cambodia its mood killing I'd rather jerkoff experience.[/QUOTE]I'm a higher end (Marriott) hotel guy myself. JW Marriott in BKK (just booked in January), Renaissance in HK, and I do the Tokyo Marriott. Which I don't recommend if you're in to tourist things, it's more a business hotel. I'm sure others here can give better Tokyo hotel suggestions and help simplify the subway system (I only had to learn about 2 lines for the two times I"ve been there. Yamanote and Keikyu). Pick your hotel first, then worry about learning the subway lines.
As at David032 said, translators aren't that big a deal with most of the places that service foreigners. Most of the girls will have some basic English skills and some are incredibly proficient. That said, I'm the same with try to learn a little of the local language and it does go a long way with the girls (IMHO).
I just booked 4 nights in Tokyo in November, so I'll be sure to post some reports from my trip.
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Luxe and some other adventures
Went to luxe 3 weeks ago on a Thursday. Couldn't get in as I didn't make a reservation. Came out and the guy directed us to the booth where there is a guide for RLD in Kabukicho. He talked to couple of similar clubs which allowed entry for foreigners but they were full as well. After another call he made us enter luxe but with a steep 13 k entry. Me and my friend went in. First girl name Airi or something, she knew English was half Latino and had fantastic tits. I loved sucking her tits but she didn't let me DFK, she did let me touch her pussy as well, gave in for her a drink and couldn't say no. Meanwhile my friend's girl refused to do anything till a drink was served. Next was a Japanese girl with barely any boobs but did DFK like no tomorrow. We were liplocked for about 10 of 13 minutes. Next girl came which again had no boobs and didn't even let me kiss, couldn't speak English as well. My friend's 3rd girl was a proper Japanese but she had a stinking mouth so he just sucked her tits for all the time.
It was a fun experience having me and my friend beside each other sucking tits all around but I wouldn't repeat. Good for a 1 time experience considering the price for being a foreigner.
After this we went to JIS club which advertises number of women inside with our broken Japanese, but since women there knew only Japanese we were out in 15 minutes.
Soaplands are the best bet tbh. Went to one last year in asakusa and paid 23 k for a 70 min session and was totally satisfied.
Damages - 13+2.5 k.
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Thanks a ton for this
Thank you for sharing this, I may plan a trip to Japan now.
[QUOTE=HkPunter99;2939843]First, my apologies for quoting the whole post! Don't flame me!
Vaginal sex in Japan is quite easy to get if you really understand how the system works in Japan.
1.) There is a loophole in the law that allows Soaplands to offer Vaginal Intercourse. I think you'll find 99.9% of reports from soaplands, FS is standard. The problem is that not every soapland allows foreigners. So, you just have to find ones that do.
Some that are reported as being foreigner friendly in Tokyo are:
- Versaille - [URL]https://y-versailles.com/access/[/URL].
- why Shirt - [URL]https://www.y-shirt.jp/sp/top.php[/URL].
- Silky Doll.
- Cream Lemon.
- Prima Donna..[/QUOTE]
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AMP and FS
First of all sorry, my English is not so good.
1. if you want FS, don't go to japanese run MPs.
Check google maps for Thai spa or Thai massage. If they are run by Thai or Chinese the chances to gut FS are much better, but not guaranteed. Walk in they show you the menu, as if FS is possible, if yes try to see the girl before you pay. If no, be polite and leave. It's a try and error adventure.
I left 2 stores yesterday, the 3rd was a hit. BTW lots of MPs are not registered in the Internet, just open your eyes when walking around.
DAMAGE 15.000, 30 min, Thai girl in the 30's, friendly and good service 5 min HJ, then cover and some positions, finish, shower, off we go.
Location: Ueno, same building as arias Thai massage (there they offered HJ only), name of shop was RELAXATION &BODY SPA, easy to find.
Today I went to Shinjuku, same procedure, knocked the door of 3 spas before I got a hit. 19.000 for 60 min, run by Chinese. Cute, mid20's Chinese (lucky me and I will return), payed took shower and off we went. Bad Thai massage (no wonder it was bad, she was chinese LOL), then HJ, cover, ride shower tea again. Be kind to them, try to make some small talk, easy going.
BTW, I am an athletic type, blond, tall, maybe an advantage to get special treatments, who knows.
Hope this helps some of you.
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If you speak Japanese. . .
[QUOTE=Gaijinsg;2939491] I am tempted to try Japanese girls in the US. I know this is not a question on this forum, but would appreciate any pointers for Chicago area from Traveler X.
Also, what are the best value for money options for someone speaking fluent Japanese in Tokyo area, both for soaps as well as deli health.
I am interested in meeting genuine slender Japanese girls.[/QUOTE]For finding JGirls in the US, I can't speak to Chicago, but there are a few apartment buildings in the DC area where they have a stream of KGirls and JGirls on rotation. Search the USA forum for Blue OCean or Tyson's Corner. Last time I was there I got a threesome with 2 really hot early-twenty-somethings. I didn't let them know that I spoke Japanese, so it was fun to hear them talk to each other not knowing that I understood.
As for Tokyo, if you can speak Japanese, it opens up so many doors. There's a listing site called Fujoho where you can choose your neighborhood and drill into the types of service you want, (Deli Health, Hotel Health, Oppai Club, etc) and get listing after listing.
I like the ones with the super-specific kinks. There are S&M shops ranging from light to hard, S or M or switch. Shops that specialize in age ranges or body types or costumes. There's a shop called Molester Train which is one of my favorite kink shops. You go to their office, choose a girl from a set of baseball cards, pay up front for the time, then go find a nearby love hotel. Once you're checked in, you call back and tell them your room number. Then you get undressed. The girl knocks on your door and you open it just enough for her to put her hand in, then (without either of you seeing each other) you slip into the shower while she gets the room ready. She knocks on the bathroom door to let you know the fun begins. When you come out, she's wearing the costume you picked, blindfolded, holding on to a train handle strap that's attached to the door frame, with the sounds of the Japanese subway train playing on her phone. She can't see you and is facing the wall and pretends like you're not there while you start to molest her as if you were riding the train. Also laying on the bed is a series of vibrators for you to choose from. Holy moly, that one is fun.
I think the best neighborhood for total selection and variety is Ikebukuro. For visitors without Japanese, there are a decent number of shops in Kabukicho.
Enjoy your visit!
Chili.
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[QUOTE=ChiliChill;2941000]As for Tokyo, if you can speak Japanese, it opens up so many doors. [/QUOTE]If you speak Japanese, and can read it too, then you really don't need sites like this at all.
[QUOTE=ChiliChili]I think the best neighborhood for total selection and variety is Ikebukuro. For visitors without Japanese, there are a decent number of shops in Kabukicho. [/QUOTE]Ikebukuro has some decent stuff. Couple soaplands, oppai pub, pregnant fetish shop, several Thai massage. Not a bad place to set up. But most of it like the pink salons are no foreigners allowed.
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[QUOTE=Otwin;2940720]1. if you want FS, don't go to japanese run MPs.[/QUOTE]Or you could go to a foreigner OK soapland.
Excellent Club Danshaku.
King's Club.
Putit Royal.
Ikebukuro Gold.
Ikebukuro Bunny Girls.
GFE Soapland.
Darling Harbour.
Etc.
Guaranteed full service with real Japanese women.
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I recently did a one hour session with Len from THC. When she showed up at my hotel I immediately wished I had booked a longer session. Wanted to extend, but alas she had another session not long after me so it wasn't possible. But it was possible to get a "movie recording with face" so I have a video of her blowing me now. That will be saved and backed up for future enjoyment.
This is her: [URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=2389[/URL].
Pics look good IMO. My kind of girl. But she looked even better in person. You never know how these kinds of things are going to go. The Japanese are experts at photo manipulation. In this case, I got what I wanted and more.
This is the kind of girl who would turn your head in a train station. A real beauty, sexy body. Pretty tall and slender. I bet she's around 6'0 with her high heels. She could easily do porn and be a top act.
Her English was pretty good. Confident as you would expect from such a looker. Blowjob was nice, wet and sloppy. Took her time working on my rod.
She did eat out my asshole while wanking me off too, which is always nice. Nothing like looking down and watching a Japanese beauty tongue your anus.
After that I had her sit on my face and she sucked me off in 69 position for quite a while. Just when I thought my tongue was going to give out I blew my load in her mouth.
Total damage was 45,000 Yen. About $310 with the exchange rate. Definitely work it with the take home video.
She was so much younger and better looking than me that I really felt she deserved my money too. Sometime you walk away feeling like you wasted dough. In this case I was left wanting more.
Don't get to Tokyo as often as I used to. Hope she's still there next time I come through.
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Don't go to those
[QUOTE=ChiliChill;2941000]For finding JGirls in the US, I can't speak to Chicago, but there are a few apartment buildings in the DC area where they have a stream of KGirls and JGirls on rotation. Search the USA forum for Blue OCean or Tyson's Corner. Last time I was there I got a threesome with 2 really hot early-twenty-somethings. I didn't let them know that I spoke Japanese, so it was fun to hear them talk to each other not knowing that I understood.
As for Tokyo, if you can speak Japanese, it opens up so many doors. There's a listing site called Fujoho where you can choose your neighborhood and drill into the types of service you want, (Deli Health, Hotel Health, Oppai Club, etc) and get listing after listing.
I like the ones with the super-specific kinks. There are S&M shops ranging from light to hard, S or M or switch. Shops that specialize in age ranges or body types or costumes. There's a shop called Molester Train which is one of my favorite kink shops. You go to their office, choose a girl from a set of baseball cards, pay up front for the time, then go find a nearby love hotel. Once you're checked in, you call back and tell them your room number. Then you get undressed. The girl knocks on your door and you open it just enough for her to put her hand in, then (without either of you seeing each other) you slip into the shower while she gets the room ready. She knocks on the bathroom door to let you know the fun begins. When you come out, she's wearing the costume you picked, blindfolded, holding on to a train handle strap that's attached to the door frame, with the sounds of the Japanese subway train playing on her phone. She can't see you and is facing the wall and pretends like you're not there while you start to molest her as if you were riding the train. Also laying on the bed is a series of vibrators for you to choose from. Holy moly, that one is fun.
I think the best neighborhood for total selection and variety is Ikebukuro. For visitors without Japanese, there are a decent number of shops in Kabukicho.
Enjoy your visit!
Chili.[/QUOTE]Don't go to any of the apartment ones in DC. They are little better than sex trafficking. You will in no way get a better experience than in Japan. One of those agency's was busted recently and there whole client list and all conversations were turned over to the police as part of a plea deal. It's funny how people are arguing you get a better Japanese experience in the US than in Japan. Where do you think those girls learned it. Someone else mentioned all the forgien soaplands one visit to them is half the price of anything in the US and the service is a100% better.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2941371]I recently did a one hour session with Len from THC. When she showed up at my hotel I immediately wished I had booked a longer session. Wanted to extend, but alas she had another session not long after me so it wasn't possible. But it was possible to get a "movie recording with face" so I have a video of her blowing me now. That will be saved and backed up for future enjoyment.
This is her: [URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=2389[/URL].
Pics look good IMO. My kind of girl. But she looked even better in person. You never know how these kinds of things are going to go. The Japanese are experts at photo manipulation. In this case, I got what I wanted and more.
This is the kind of girl who would turn your head in a train station. A real beauty, sexy body. Pretty tall and slender. I bet she's around 6'0 with her high heels. She could easily do porn and be a top act.
Her English was pretty good. Confident as you would expect from such a looker. Blowjob was nice, wet and sloppy. Took her time working on my rod.
She did eat out my asshole while wanking me off too, which is always nice. Nothing like looking down and watching a Japanese beauty tongue your anus.
After that I had her sit on my face and she sucked me off in 69 position for quite a while. Just when I thought my tongue was going to give out I blew my load in her mouth.
Total damage was 45,000 Yen. About $310 with the exchange rate. Definitely work it with the take home video.
She was so much younger and better looking than me that I really felt she deserved my money too. Sometime you walk away feeling like you wasted dough. In this case I was left wanting more.
Don't get to Tokyo as often as I used to. Hope she's still there next time I come through.[/QUOTE]Wow 6'0"? Must have been tall heels or she is a naturally tall stunner, pretty rare in Japan.
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[QUOTE=David032;2941453]Don't go to any of the apartment ones in DC. They are little better than sex trafficking. You will in no way get a better experience than in Japan. One of those agency's was busted recently and there whole client list and all conversations were turned over to the police as part of a plea deal. It's funny how people are arguing you get a better Japanese experience in the US than in Japan. Where do you think those girls learned it. Someone else mentioned all the forgien soaplands one visit to them is half the price of anything in the US and the service is a100% better.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Not to mention that it is legal in Japan.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2941586]Agreed. Not to mention that it is legal in Japan.[/QUOTE]If you're caught in a K / J-Girl bust in the USA, you can kiss your career, reputation, and income goodbye. Travel to Japan to see providers who are comfortable in their environment. They can speak their own language, aren't stuck in an apartment, and can pick their own schedules.
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[QUOTE=SouRiceCream;2940373]Went to luxe 3 weeks ago on a Thursday. Couldn't get in as I didn't make a reservation. Came out and the guy directed us to the booth where there is a guide for RLD in Kabukicho. He talked to couple of similar clubs which allowed entry for foreigners but they were full as well. After another call he made us enter luxe but with a steep 13 k entry. Me and my friend went in. First girl name Airi or something, she knew English was half Latino and had fantastic tits. I loved sucking her tits but she didn't let me DFK, she did let me touch her pussy as well, gave in for her a drink and couldn't say no. Meanwhile my friend's girl refused to do anything till a drink was served. Next was a Japanese girl with barely any boobs but did DFK like no tomorrow. We were liplocked for about 10 of 13 minutes. Next girl came which again had no boobs and didn't even let me kiss, couldn't speak English as well. My friend's 3rd girl was a proper Japanese but she had a stinking mouth so he just sucked her tits for all the time.[/QUOTE]Glad you had a memorable time. Earlier hours there are less crowds so it's easier to get in, and the rate is cheaper. Regardless of being Japanese or foreigner. It really pays to go early.
Officially you can't touch a girl's bottom but as you saw if there is consent no one cares.
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[QUOTE=TropicanGeorge;2941546]Wow 6'0"? Must have been tall heels or she is a naturally tall stunner, pretty rare in Japan.[/QUOTE]She was pretty tall for Japan, but heels definitely added a lot. She fit nicely over me during 69 so she must have had some height on her. I'm not short at all.
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[QUOTE=ChiliChill;2941000]For finding JGirls in the US, I can't speak to Chicago, but there are a few apartment buildings in the DC area where they have a stream of KGirls and JGirls on rotation. Search the USA forum for Blue OCean or Tyson's Corner. Last time I was there I got a threesome with 2 really hot early-twenty-somethings. I didn't let them know that I spoke Japanese, so it was fun to hear them talk to each other not knowing that I understood.[/QUOTE]That must be fun. I always start with Japanese so they don't get surprised later or interrupt the session since the next question is always "why". One girl had a 2 week tour with over 100 bookings and I and another Japanese guy were the only ones.
The important point is you don't have to speak anything but English to make an appointment and bang.
[QUOTE=ChiliChill;2941000]
When you come out, she's wearing the costume you picked, blindfolded, holding on to a train handle strap that's attached to the door frame, with the sounds of the Japanese subway train playing on her phone. She can't see you and is facing the wall and pretends like you're not there while you start to molest her as if you were riding the train. Also laying on the bed is a series of vibrators for you to choose from. Holy moly, that one is fun.
Chili.[/QUOTE]I have visited a similar one, there is a whole subset of "harassment" shops. If you can understand instructions it's worth going just for the novelty. This shop was incall and I walked in with several schoolgirls blindfolded and shackled and I could molest them all I wanted. Anything I wanted by hands as long as I'm reasonably gentle (you wash and gargle before the playtime begins). This step had a time limit and I picked the girl I wanted by her nametag. Then I waited a few minutes where the curtains opened and the girl I picked walked me upstairs to a room, just like soapland. The next time I used her card and booked her directly without the play.
It is a bit similar to this shop which is themed "blindfold and shackles":
[URL]https://www.cityheaven.net/tokyo/A1304/A130404/zenra-kakumei/system/[/URL]
Then there is one for just girls with huge G-cup tits, called G-scandal:
[URL]https://www.g-scandal.com/top.html[/URL]
Then there is delivery called robot delivery, where the girl won't say a word:
[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1304/robo-deli/[/URL]
These are specialties you can't get outside, not at this level of service.
That said, regular FS is way better in the US. Of my top 3 girls I saw in the US, none of them ever worked in Japan. Two of them worked Taiwan, Macau, Canada, US, and neighboring countries. One of them worked only US ever, making more than a year's pay every month she worked. The pay in Japanese FS shops is just too low in comparison, the shops take too much cut. Hence why girls are willing to exchange LINE so often these days. I have only asked one girl I saw in Japan for her LINE, but was offered it a dozen times without me asking or wanting (I refused).
There are also some jgirls who have worked in Japan, but they are always the less skilled ones. It speaks volumes that even the JAV stars working in the US are always less skilled than the touring jgirls. And much older, so the JAV thing is their gimmick to compete. Any girl over 25 has some gimmick like huge tits, JAV, or anal. The girl who only worked US started at 19. She mostly got perfect 10s on looks on T** by reviewers, which is extremely rare.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2941962]That must be fun. I always start with Japanese so they don't get surprised later or interrupt the session since the next question is always "why". One girl had a 2 week tour with over 100 bookings and I and another Japanese guy were the only ones.
The important point is you don't have to speak anything but English to make an appointment and bang.
I have visited a similar one, there is a whole subset of "harassment" shops. If you can understand instructions it's worth going just for the novelty. This shop was incall and I walked in with several schoolgirls blindfolded and shackled and I could molest them all I wanted. Anything I wanted by hands as long as I'm reasonably gentle (you wash and gargle before the playtime begins). This step had a time limit and I picked the girl I wanted by her nametag. Then I waited a few minutes where the curtains opened and the girl I picked walked me upstairs to a room, just like soapland. The next time I used her card and booked her directly without the play.
It is a bit similar to this shop which is themed "blindfold and shackles":
[URL]https://www.cityheaven.net/tokyo/A1304/A130404/zenra-kakumei/system/[/URL]
Then there is one for just girls with huge G-cup tits, called G-scandal:
[URL]https://www.g-scandal.com/top.html[/URL]
Then there is delivery called robot delivery, where the girl won't say a word:
[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1304/robo-deli/[/URL]
These are specialties you can't get outside, not at this level of service.
That said, regular FS is way better in the US. Of my top 3 girls I saw in the US, none of them ever worked in Japan. Two of them worked Taiwan, Macau, Canada, US, and neighboring countries. One of them worked only US ever, making more than a year's pay every month she worked. The pay in Japanese FS shops is just too low in comparison, the shops take too much cut. Hence why girls are willing to exchange LINE so often these days. I have only asked one girl I saw in Japan for her LINE, but was offered it a dozen times without me asking or wanting (I refused).
There are also some jgirls who have worked in Japan, but they are always the less skilled ones. It speaks volumes that even the JAV stars working in the US are always less skilled than the touring jgirls. And much older, so the JAV thing is their gimmick to compete. Any girl over 25 has some gimmick like huge tits, JAV, or anal. The girl who only worked US started at 19. She mostly got perfect 10s on looks on T** by reviewers, which is extremely rare.[/QUOTE]I always have to disagree with you LOL. First there are no advertised full service Japanese stores. Only ones that cater to foreigners advertise that way which is illegal as hell. I get that it's your experience but truthfully I can't see it being better. I mongered for over 20 years in the US my first service at a soapland was better than the almost all of that. Second you are really not going to high end soaplands if your saying the service is better in the US. . There are girls here litterly go to classes on how to please guys and most of them are really good at it. Most of the Jgirls that go to the US most not all but the vast majority. Are the ones that don't earn much in Japan or are mostly being sex trafficked and forced to do it. They are generally the bottom level of girls in Japan. I know a few independent Jgirls who tried it and the all uniformly hated it said they did make more money but it wasn't worth. To dangerous and all had a friend who got arrested and reported because of it. I went back to the you.
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Is TAG owned by Asian Mystique?
Does anyone notice the blanket censorship over "foreigner-friendly" services discussed on the forum besides Asian Mystique? Seems pretty sketchy with the heavy-handed moderation going on these days on the site compared to what it was like 10 years ago.
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One special recommendation in Shinjuku
You can find a lot of tips for foreigners at [URL]japanfridaynight.com[/URL], because there seem to be only a few establishments that are also open to foreigners.
My first Soapland adventure in Tokyo (I never remember the name of the place) was a bit disappointing, I didn't know exactly what to expect, the lady was pretty, but not great and only had her back against mine in the bathtub Part of it rubbed, then massaged my legs on the bed, a little bored, and I kept waiting to see what would finally happen, she always acted as if she didn't understand exactly what I was saying in English, but then an alarm clock sounded and she was suddenly able to say "ooooops time is up" perfectly and wanted to stop the operation immediately. I was then able to persuade her to at least jerk me off, which worked, but of course it wasn't that great anymore. Sex is banned in Japan, so I didn't expect it now, but later I would learn different.
A few days later I was at the "Barubola Marin" in Shinjuku, significantly higher prices, but I had also read that the price is usually directly related to the performance. As a foreigner you pay half more, someone in the West should do that and everyone would scream "racism!" Well, that's just how it is and I played along and paid around 400 euros for 90 minutes. The staff is very polite and accommodating. A girl was recommended to me without a picture and that she was "so nice", I let myself be persuaded and was already annoyed while waiting because I thought to myself that they just wanted to sell a bad girl "cheaply". But it was exactly the opposite!
Chiaki Nana was the best thing that could have happened to me. Approximately early / mid 20's (hard to say), sweet as sugar, petite with very small breasts, flawless skin and a smile to die for. Can speak English well enough, we laughed a lot and she was absolutely there for me. The only thing that was missing were kisses, she made it clear right away that below the neck (practically) anything is possible, but above that is a taboo zone. She washes you thoroughly at the beginning, then there's "nurunuru" and at 90 minutes there's traffic twice ("grey area in Japan": As I understand it, you pay for everything else except genital sex, the girl can then give you vaginal sex as a gift ", this circumvents the ban on "paying for genital sex" Licking and fingering is possible, a real treat with this sweet pussy! Then I just went to her, always brought her a gift and the last time I even got one from her! This happened to me for the first time in my "career".
One time Nana wasn't there and I wanted to try the "Hentai Club Tokyo", which I found on the Internet and whose website looks quite professional. But here I was unlucky. The girl's name was "Roko" and she was only interested in "quick shooting" with her hand. When I said please slow down, she said something mockingly, that's the slowest thing possible. Condom mounted on half-flaccid penis and then just rubbed. I had booked and paid for a vibrator as an extra, but the one she brought didn't work and I was only allowed to "play" with it for about 2 minutes. I asked about "CIM", she didn't respond, but in the end she still wanted the money for it even though we hadn't done it! Then I just left and didn't look back at her again. I don't want to deny that there are definitely good girls there too, but In hindsight it was strange that every girl has only positive reviews and they are all written in good English and in the same style, with no careless errors.
Well, after that I just went to Nana because I couldn't believe I could find something better, she was so nice, beautiful and didn't have a problem with my size, which is often a problem with Asian women. As I said, it's not cheap there (a good 400 euros for 90 minutes), it seems to be in the range "between middle class and upper class", everything is very clean and professional, and I can "unfortunately only" recommend Nana, who But it was really great and I will never forget it. To fall in love.
[URL]https://barubola.com/en/[/URL]#.
P.S. I just checked, Nana is still listed there.
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[QUOTE=Pegasus887;2942060]Does anyone notice the blanket censorship over "foreigner-friendly" services discussed on the forum besides Asian Mystique? Seems pretty sketchy with the heavy-handed moderation going on these days on the site compared to what it was like 10 years ago.[/QUOTE]IDK but it's definitely a strange place. They hold reviews for weeks or months before they publish. One of the moderators is an older white woman who is apparently an escort. And they banned me for trying to review an escort from Tokyo Hentai Club. If you search the site you will find no mention of THC even though it's clearly the most popular agency in the country for foreigners.
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[QUOTE=David032;2941966]First there are no advertised full service Japanese stores. [/QUOTE]You get full service at any soapland. There are at least 10 in Tokyo where you can walk right in as a foreigner and get full service.
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[QUOTE=Haengebruecke;2942129]You can find a lot of tips for foreigners at [URL]japanfridaynight.com[/URL], because there seem to be only a few establishments that are also open to foreigners.
My first Soapland adventure in Tokyo (I never remember the name of the place) was a bit disappointing, I didn't know exactly what to expect, the lady was pretty, but not great and only had her back against mine in the bathtub Part of it rubbed, then massaged my legs on the bed, a little bored, and I kept waiting to see what would finally happen, she always acted as if she didn't understand exactly what I was saying in English, but then an alarm clock sounded and she was suddenly able to say "ooooops time is up" perfectly and wanted to stop the operation immediately. I was then able to persuade her to at least jerk me off, which worked, but of course it wasn't that great anymore. Sex is banned in Japan, so I didn't expect it now, but later I would learn different.[/QUOTE]This is a prime example of a suspicious post, dissing THC, (yes they do have some shitty providers but overall the service is excellent if you play your cards right), linking to some new blog that is written in broken English by a Japanese broker who asks to contact them to make bookings on your behalf to the shops listed? Praising Barubola which was recently bought out by the Marine group turning foreigner-friendly post covid with a spotty track record in its shallow history screwing foreigners over.
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Deai Sites for Mongers?
Has anybody had luck with matching / deai sites for enjo kosai in Tokyo? I speak / read Japanese, but no idea which ones are foreigner-friendly or popular.
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2942188]You get full service at any soapland. There are at least 10 in Tokyo where you can walk right in as a foreigner and get full service.[/QUOTE]Show me on their website or on any correspondence where they say they are full service.
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[QUOTE=Pegasus887;2942060]Does anyone notice the blanket censorship over "foreigner-friendly" services discussed on the forum besides Asian Mystique? Seems pretty sketchy with the heavy-handed moderation going on these days on the site compared to what it was like 10 years ago.[/QUOTE]LOL asian mistque actually has low number of the reviews on the site your better off asking if a certain girl form yshirt is part of the ownership. The forgien friendly ones mostly mentioned here aren't mentioned there because the places have management issues. Where the managent is aggressive at targeting other foreigner friendly shop to shut them down or bad mouth thems. Hentai and GFE are both owned by the same group. In fact that group owns most of the licenced foreigner friendly places.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2942187]IDK but it's definitely a strange place. They hold reviews for weeks or months before they publish. One of the moderators is an older white woman who is apparently an escort. And they banned me for trying to review an escort from Tokyo Hentai Club. If you search the site you will find no mention of THC even though it's clearly the most popular agency in the country for foreigners.[/QUOTE]Henti and GFE are banned from that forum because the management company has caused issues on the forum itself. They aggressively targeted other foreign friendly shops and independant escorts and created problems. So they aren't allowed to post anything. I call BS that you were banned due to just trying post a review. Cause I have also tried to review GFE and henti on there. All that happened is the review was denied and never posted never had an issue after that.
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[QUOTE=David032;2942270]Henti and GFE are banned from that forum because the management company has caused issues on the forum itself. They aggressively targeted other foreign friendly shops and independant escorts and created problems. So they aren't allowed to post anything. I call BS that you were banned due to just trying post a review. Cause I have also tried to review GFE and henti on there. All that happened is the review was denied and never posted never had an issue after that.[/QUOTE]As far as I know they have never participated on TAG. The moderators were alarmed at the amount of positive reviews being posted about the service by new users when they first started and came to the conclusion that they were all "fake" reviews. Why would they need to sabotage other businesses when they have a huge market share jeopardizing their future?
It seems ridiculous for an independent forum to be moderated in this manner without any outside business interests.
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[QUOTE=David032;2942267]Show me on their website or on any correspondence where they say they are full service.[/QUOTE]I've never noticed such a claim of full service on a soapland website, but I've also not noticed on such sites that "production" or "the actual act" -- euphemisms for vaginal intercourse -- are forbidden.
Such notices ARE included on the websites of delivery health / etc. Shops. For example, on that Robot Deliheru site it says:
"It is forbidden (by the law) to require or force the girls to act in real performance. ".
But on that Soapland Barubola Marin site, there is no mention of the full service euphemisms on the prohibited list. It's like the dog that didn't bark in the Sherlock Holmes story.
More than once the phrase "this is not a sex shop" was uttered to me in Japan in fashion health places, so it was slightly jarring when I heard "this is a sex shop" when I entered a soapland in Fukuoka.
So yes, soapland places (or restaurant association places in Osaka) will not explicitly advertise full service but, as the saying goes, if you know, you know.
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[QUOTE=David032;2941966]I always have to disagree with you LOL. First there are no advertised full service Japanese stores. Only ones that cater to foreigners advertise that way which is illegal as hell. I get that it's your experience but truthfully I can't see it being better. I mongered for over 20 years in the US my first service at a soapland was better than the almost all of that. Second you are really not going to high end soaplands if your saying the service is better in the US. . There are girls here litterly go to classes on how to please guys and most of them are really good at it. Most of the Jgirls that go to the US most not all but the vast majority. Are the ones that don't earn much in Japan or are mostly being sex trafficked and forced to do it. They are generally the bottom level of girls in Japan. I know a few independent Jgirls who tried it and the all uniformly hated it said they did make more money but it wasn't worth. To dangerous and all had a friend who got arrested and reported because of it. I went back to the you.[/QUOTE]I'm not really disagreeing with you. I've mongered in Japan and the US 20 years same as you. For the last 18, Japan was better. Same as you so far. I had to take a break due to Covid but got in right after restrictions were lifted, even bought my ticket when it was only partial (pre-test required). So, our experiences aren't contradictory. I had a great time at soapland, always said so. A lot did change after Covid. I am saying there is a consistently better experience from what I've done myself, but that's just my opinion.
And I agree that a lot of jgirls who went to the US "hated it but made more money". I don't want to write an essay on that but some have made 3 or 4 tours so it's not every girl. Certain shops are solid but most girls are not going to them. The more popular shops suck but girls go to them because they cram 10-12 appointments a day. I've dated one girl and on hour 4th tour she stuck with the better shop - lower rate and slightly less appointments but a good and easy day in comparison. Jgirls are sharing notes realtime and even the last few weeks there has been a big shift in where they are working.
I have almost unlimited funds so it is not the cost aspect for me. But almost everyone else is very cost conscious and that's the only reason I'm detailed on costs. I personally don't care, my time is what's limited. I visit Japan for just a few weeks for a spontaneous experience, I am just as happy with a 458 yen gyudon as a 20000 yen omakase course. I try both. It's about the variety and even if one of them is not up to standard (more likely the latter honestly), I am just trying to enjoy things freely. I visit different soaplands out of curiosity. I was even telling my friend at Yoshiwara let's just try so we can say we did (for "historical places in Japan experience") but the staff were so off-putting "Yeah our ladies are older than you expect so what" that my friend talked me out of it. To give you an idea of my approach. Enough talk about money.
But it's important you disagree because we are both trying to paint a realistic picture for others with different opinions. You know some guys are going to be disappointed when they have a bit too high of an expectation either of the girl or more likely the language barrier wall (and ensuing gaijin tax with many places and girls refusing). I've always said there's a lot of fun in Japan with many advantages, but there are some reality checks for the newer guys. We are both helping them in our own approach, maybe it's good cop bad cop but I have no complaints. Some guys are coming all the way from the US, and I think especially first-timers are each looking for something different, soapland is not necessarily the goto. The US market for jgirls is really different now than before, I have the proof but you know I am not going to post that. I don't mind you disagreeing with me, it's important for people to be skeptical either way.
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[QUOTE=David032;2942270]Henti and GFE are banned from that forum because the management company has caused issues on the forum itself. They aggressively targeted other foreign friendly shops and independant escorts and created problems. So they aren't allowed to post anything. I call BS that you were banned due to just trying post a review. Cause I have also tried to review GFE and henti on there. All that happened is the review was denied and never posted never had an issue after that.[/QUOTE]Why do you know so much? Are you a site owner? LOL. Whatever the case I can't post there any more, and I don't want to either.
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[QUOTE=David032;2942267]Show me on their website or on any correspondence where they say they are full service.[/QUOTE]Show me on any fast food restaurant website where they say they sell garbage food that makes you fat and unhealthy.
Yet that is exactly true.
And every soapland in Japan is full service even if there isn't a sign on the door that says "fuck pussy inside".
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NYC vs Tokyo
So I see a lot of debate here about US J-girls vs. Japan. I have been in Tokyo for around a week now and also did 4 days in Sapporo. I'm pretty active in NYC for the last 2 years and am I frequent poster on the local review boards. I only started doing this shit post-covid and after Japanese hoes had started to dominate the NYC sex market. As a white guy with very limited Japanese, my takeaway from this trip so far has been that NYC is absolutely better than Japan for FS with hot young Japanese chicks. I will try and bullet point this:
(1) Quality: I'm realizing now that we get some really hot girls in NYC. The Japanese agents send us good shit. They are not wasting overseas flights and rooms on ugly girls. Plus they make a commission off these girls. If the agents send hot young girls who get lots of bookings, well then everybody makes more money for it. We even get some hot young girls and JAV stars who only work overseas. I've met a number of J-girls like this now. It's a combination of the money overseas being so much better and the fact that some girls would rather not service Japanese customers. I fucked hot AV girls in NY like Rin Asahi, Ayase Kokoro and Yume Ayakawa plus many other hot young ones who are overseas only girls. A lot of high quality J-pussies apparently don't work in Japan.
(2) Service: If you're a foreigner with no Japanese, service is better in the USA IMO. The girls are much friendlier and often have some English. I think a lot of them really step up their game while they're on tour overseas. They want to get good feedback, good reviews and make a lot of money before they go home. If they're not good service, many US shops / agencies will give them the boot. Here in Japan I have gotten screwed with some providers who were older, not very attractive or just not friendly and not good service. Many girls here don't want to do kiss or 69 for example. These are basic services with J-girls in NYC and the stores require it. But in Japan it seems like the girls and the Soaplands don't give a shit. You're just some gaijin who will be gone in a week or two after all. So if you're not happy at the end of the session, well tough shit. They already got your money anyways. I see lots of guys here talking about soapland sessions where the girl would only jerk them off or just tried to run down the clock. That shit would never happen in NY and if it did, the girl would either step up her game real fast or she would be gone.
(3) Bait and switch BS: Another big advantage to the USA Is you can actually see the girl before you commit and turn over the money. I've lost count of how many times I walked on a girl in NY because I didn't like what I saw in person. In Japan, you can't do this, and they don't offer lineups. Whether it's delivery health or Soaplands, you pay up front prior to seeing the girl in person and there's a clearly stated no refund policy. As a result, they can bait and switch the hell out of you. I think I did about 6 soapland visits here. Happiness soapland in Sapporo was amazing and I got 60 minutes mat play plus creampie for 40 k all in. Also had a good time at dolce in Yoshiwara for around the same money, but no BBFS there and both these girls wouldn't really kiss. The other soapie visits were just okay, and 1 or 2 were terrible. One store in Yokohama (nice lady iirc) really screwed me and gave me a gross fat chick for about 25 k. Most of the soaps I've been to range in price from 20 k-40 k. I don't really see the sense in doing a high class soap for over 70 k, sorta feels like a tourist trap. That's NY money, and I'the rather spend it in NY where I have more control and won't get fucked over just for being a foreigner with no Japanese. Will try one of these high ends soaps (probably opera / versailles) before I leave but honestly, for the money spent (about $600) I expect to be disappointed. I also did delivery health in Sapporo with an agency called college girl kiss, but the girl was terrible. Total bait and switch. She was probably early 30's and overweight when I was expecting a hot college girl. I cancelled and got a partial 10 k refund of the 34 k I spent on her. Didn't even want to play with her when I saw her in person. It was that bad, and I had to fight like hell just to get that small partial refund from the agency.
(4) Big wins in Kabuki: Honestly I've probably had the most fun here with the tachinbo in Kabukicho. Rates vary between 10 k-40 k and you actually get to see the girl first, negotiate and feel her out before the money is exchanged. If you're a foreigner with no Japanese, you don't want there to be a middle man like a soapland, because the middle man will fuck you over. Better to be able to negotiate directly with the girl. Okubo park is the notorious hot spot for these chicks but you can find them all over Kabukicho working to feed their host club addictions. Some of the girls are real shit attitude and want a lot of money, but there are also gems. You need to negotiate everything up front before you take them back to the room, that way you know what you're getting. It does take some practice, and some luck. Met one girl here who was only 19, super shy / submissive and I creampied her for 30 k. Another girl I found here was half Filipina half Japanese and I fucked her twice with creampie plus she stayed overnight all for just 20 k. The good girls usually get picked up quick, but sometimes you can hit a home run here and a find a nice fresh young cutie for a good price. Service is a mixed bag, but then again, it is at the Soaplands too. At least here you have some control over what kind of quality and service you're getting.
Anyhow, that's my 2 cents so far on mongering in Japan. I've had way better experiences in NYC overall. Had a few very memorable girls in Kabukicho plus that soapland chick in Sapporo, but overall I've found NY had consistently hotter girls with better service. I tend to agree with other posters that Japan is nice for things you can't get in NY like oppai bars, mat play / nuru massage and weird fetish shit like harassment shops. However, if you're just interested in some hot Japanese GFE action, FS and maybe some extras like BBFS and video, NYC is king.
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What was is like dating one of them?
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t[/QUOTE]What was is like dating one of these girls?
Was the sex even better than the regular "service"?
Are they trying to find a rich guy to marry or support them?
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One more bullet point in NYC's favor: Choice of Girls
[QUOTE=JPLove;2942547]So I see a lot of debate here about US J-girls vs. Japan. I have been in Tokyo for around a week now and also did 4 days in Sapporo. I'm pretty active in NYC for the last 2 years and am I frequent poster on the local review boards. I only started doing this shit post-covid and after Japanese hoes had started to dominate the NYC sex market. As a white guy with very limited Japanese, my takeaway from this trip so far has been that NYC is absolutely better than Japan for FS with hot young Japanese chicks. I will try and bullet point this:
(1) Quality: I'm realizing now that we get some really hot girls in NYC. The Japanese agents send us good shit. They are not wasting overseas flights and rooms on ugly girls. Plus they make a commission off these girls. If the agents send hot young girls who get lots of bookings, well then everybody makes more money for it. We even get some hot young girls and JAV stars who only work overseas. I've met a number of J-girls like this now. It's a combination of the money overseas being so much better and the fact that some girls would rather not service Japanese customers. I fucked hot AV girls in NY like Rin Asahi, Ayase Kokoro and Yume Ayakawa plus many other hot young ones who are overseas only girls. A lot of high quality J-pussies apparently don't work in Japan...[/QUOTE]So I think most guys reading this forum are already aware of this, but I'll mention it anyways, and meant to include it in my original post. As a foreigner with no Japanese, you will not have access the full roster at Soaplands. Many of the Soaplands I visited only offered 1, maybe 2 girls to foreigners who can't speak Japanese. In my limited experience, if a soap only offers you one girl, you should probably walk. The pictures are never accurate and you won't really know what you're getting until you see the girl in person. Dolce in Yoshiwara was one of the few spots that actually gave me a roster of 5-8 girls to choose from. The Soapland in Sapporo that I visited wouldn't let me choose the girl as a foreigner, but management asked what my preferences were and did a pretty damn good job of accommodating. In my case, they gave me a mid 20's slim girl with cute face and good tits and ass, so I was quite happy. Most of the other soaps did not give me hot young girls to choose from though. Obviously there are no barriers like this in NYC. You can book whichever J-girls you want, as long as they're working / available of course.
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[QUOTE=JPLove;2942547]So I see a lot of debate here about US J-girls vs. Japan. I have been in Tokyo for around a week now and also did 4 days in Sapporo.
(2) Service: If you're a foreigner with no Japanese, service is better in the USA IMO. The girls are much friendlier and often have some English.
(3) Bait and switch BS: Another big advantage to the USA Is you can actually see the girl before you commit and turn over the money. Also had a good time at dolce in Yoshiwara for around the same money, but no BBFS there and both these girls wouldn't really kiss. The other soapie visits were just okay, and 1 or 2 were terrible.
One store in Yokohama (nice lady iirc) really screwed me and gave me a gross fat chick for about 25 k.
(4) Big wins in Kabuki: Honestly I've probably had the most fun here with the tachinbo in Kabukicho. Rates vary between 10 k-40 k and you actually get to see the girl first, negotiate and feel her out before the money is exchanged..[/QUOTE]I've never seen so many differing opinions on a mongering location in Asia than in Japan. SE Asia has had relative consensus. Thailand is great; Bali pretty good; Vietnam not so good; Cambodia okay depending on where. I've never been to Korea so can't opine. Japan it's all over the board. As a potential first time visitor it's starting to feel like more of a tourist sightseeing trip than a punter trip. Which is fine -- just trying to set my expectations correctly.
Couple clarifying questions for you.
1. How was your experience with the girls and app translators?
2. Do you remember the names of the 1-2 terrible soapies in Tokyo?
3. Street hookers. Are they easy to spot in Japan as in other places, or does it take more work to ID them? I understood this was not a very big part of the P4P scene in Tokyo. How does one spot whether they have a middle man or not. Like you I would not have a lot of tolerance for that BS.
4. What hotel did you stay at in Shinjuko? Any problems with front desk or hotel with brining the girls to your room?
5. Did you partake in escort web services (delivery health)? How was that experience?
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[QUOTE=JPLove;2942547](3) Bait and switch BS: Another big advantage to the USA Is you can actually see the girl before you commit and turn over the money. I've lost count of how many times I walked on a girl in NY because I didn't like what I saw in person. In Japan, you can't do this, and they don't offer lineups.[/QUOTE]Thanks for chiming in, very illuminating. I have the same experiences with the service gap.
I want to add one hidden advantage unrelated to the girls or shops. In the US the NYC/LA boards are quite active on comparing notes on girls and there are reviewers who are spot on in their reviews. That's part of what is weeding out the mid girls, they don't usually bother coming in the first place. So I know a girl's height boob size, cute or not, service level before I walk in, and it quite often matches to a T. I literally just saw a jgirl they recommended and she was amazing, exactly as described. Just reviewed her myself.
In Japan I've done the research and the shop itself will offer a message board but since the shop moderates it it is full of simp messages thanking the girl and telling her she's wonderful. You don't have a community or objective reviewing of the girl and her looks, people know that would be too rude for the shop board. There are independent boards but they are weak and just not the same, though I have used them and they are better than nothing.
Of course it bears repeating that if you are already in the US, you probably speak English. You probably don't speak Japanese. So coming to Japan is fun and a novelty but there is a hard barrier for some services and shops (but not others). We are here to help with that. I'll say again Japan is really fun with unique shops that are poorly imitated elsewhere, just know what you are looking for. I notice some guys just want anywhere from a maid cafe to a mid-level naughtiness like fetish club or oppai pub. Do your thing.
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2942617]1. How was your experience with the girls and app translators?[/QUOTE]
Sometimes there is something detailed or complicated I want to say right so I or her will use the translator. You don't want to interrupt action so I usually do it before the action or during break, especially if it involves a specific request. When I went to soap the girl often asked me what kind of experience I'm looking for. I said straight up I want to be like in those JAV with soap mattress, bathtub sucking, then worship me in bed like a king. And she did just that. Tongue play, balls licking, deepthroat attempts without me asking, lots of tongue play by body language alone, no Japanese needed for that. Does help to explain 69 and doggy but in a pinch you can do that with hand signals too. She asked me if I wanted to exchange LINE afterwards. I usually refuse unless I'm set on seeing a girl again, so I politely say she was great but I'll be out of town soon anyways. The girls share their bodies with us, treat them right.
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[QUOTE=JPLove;2942602]As a foreigner with no Japanese, you will not have access the full roster at Soaplands. Many of the Soaplands I visited only offered 1, maybe 2 girls to foreigners who can't speak Japanese. In my limited experience, if a soap only offers you one girl, you should probably walk. The pictures are never accurate and you won't really know what you're getting until you see the girl in person. Dolce in Yoshiwara was one of the few spots that actually gave me a roster of 5-8 girls to choose from.[/QUOTE]First, I've read a lot of your reviews of J-girls in NY on the AmpR board, so it's good to see you posting from Japan itself. Thanks for your reports. To your comments about Soaplands, no doubt your advice is good and your experiences typical in many cases, but not, as you note yourself, universally so. I went to a couple Soapland places on consecutive nights in Fukuoka. The experience on the first night was pretty bad; I went to a random place I picked because a dude outside waved me in, the pictures he showed me were blatantly fake, the girl wasn't friendly, blah. But the second night I went to the place I had been specifically looking for in the first place. I selected the hottest looking girl from the several pictures shown, the pics were accurate, young 20's girl with a slender body, passionate GFE service, a great time. So you never know.
Are you going to Osaka on this trip? If not, you can stop reading, but if so, I hope you are planning to check out one of the Shinchi's, which are "restaurant associations" that exploit a loophole to offer FS just as the Soaplands do. With the Soaps, the loophole is that they are providing a bathing service and the sex that follows is incidental. At the Shinchi's, the loophole is that the girl you go up to the room with is a waitress who provides a little cup of tea and perhaps a tiny packet of peanuts, and during that service she develops feelings that lead to FS.
The most famous Shinchi is Tobita. It's the biggest and there are gorgeous girls there, some of whom will accept foreigners. They sit in open-air rooms so you can see the actual girls before selecting. The mms will wave to you if you are acceptable; they will just ignore you if not. Tobita Shinchi is probably your best bet to get FS from a beautiful Japanese girl, possibly much prettier than the typical J-girl who makes it to Manhattan. The service, however will probably be much worse. My one time at Tobita, the girl was really hot, but no GFE of any kind, just CFS with zero affection. The walking around the several streets of Tobita and window shopping was almost as much fun as the deed itself. Tobita is recommended for the overall experience at least once IF you can stomach non-GFE CFS (but maybe with a very hot girl). Oh, and there was no shower at the place I went, I think that's the norm at Tobita.
I think there are five Schinchi's in all, but aside from Tobita I have only been to the second-biggest, the Matsushima Shinchi. My first time there I got really lucky. The girl I picked (and was allowed to pick) was young and pretty. Matsushima places do have showers, so I was clean for the service. This girl was very GFE; passionate DFK 69 with BBBJ / DATY, then CFS. I wish I had grabbed a card or somehow noted which place it was, because I couldn't remember when I went back the following year. Second visit was more like a Tobita experience, except cheaper and with a shower. The girl I picked was young and hot but the service was non-GFE. Still, an orgasm with a hot Japanese girl was achieved, so it wasn't so bad.
I've had a number of other experiences in Osaka, too many to detail now, especially given that this is the Tokyo board. But I will say that no Delivery Health girl in Osaka ever said no to FS with me in the love hotel room; it was CFS with the younger girls (who were comparable with the J-girls I've seen in NY) and BBFSCIP with the older ones.
If you spend any time in Kyoto, I went to a pink salon there that let me in. I'm a white guy with zero Japanese language skills, BTW. I might have typed up a message using Google translate that I had been to other pink salons and understood the rules, I can't completely remember, but I was admitted. The girl looked like a 18-22 year old, her schoolgirl outfit might helped shave some years off of her real age. BBBJCIM. This is the place: [URL]https://www.n-cats.com/top[/URL] I don't think anyone goes to Kyoto specifically for hobbying, but there are options if you're there for cultural reasons.
If you have any questions, feel free to respond here or message me on AmpR, same screen name.
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[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2942561]What was is like dating one of these girls?
Was the sex even better than the regular "service"?
Are they trying to find a rich guy to marry or support them?[/QUOTE]No, I do my thing and nobody would understand it. I just like to date them, that's my only goal after I'm done with them sexually. There is zero possibility of a future relationship and I make that clear from the start. Every girl is so different I can't answer any of your questions in general, just for the girls I date.
Do not get romantic feelings for a jgirl. I learned long ago not to do it that way. I date them the same way I see them at a shop. One visit at a time. Then it's goodbye, maybe next time or maybe not. Always do it that way.
If I like a girl I will bang her over and over again at the shop until I'm done with her sexually. With jgirls that means the videos and photos I want, all the acts I want more or less. Then if her personality vibes and she is a good person I can trust, I ask her out. She is a hot girl I just banged, and that makes a fun day or night out even better. There is no sexual tension, most of my dates are the day after banging so the pressure is off and there is no drama. We just do whatever we want next. I take her to the beach and have lunch and ice cream, to the strip club and watch her touch my favorite strippers all over, go hiking. Whatever we want.
There is spontaneous skinship and sometimes kissing in the middle or the end, but I'm not looking for that it just happens. Keep in mind we recently had a lot of sex, I'm sexually spent and not going to be interested for a while. I planned it this way, I hate drama with women. And what I want is I want to go out, so if she is down we do. It is so convenient.
I used to take girls out backwards, go on dates with them like that and hope we maybe bang. Fuck that.
Here is what I wrote about my 2nd date with a kgirl, I took her to the strip club and wrote:
"I took a kgirl out on a date there and all of you guys stared at her instead of the dancers. Then I got a couples dance with her where I watched that kgirl that I just double-fucked put her hands all over a dancer I liked, exploring her sexuality. A tear to my eye at the beauty, a treasured memory I will hold dear. Then we got tacos at the stand outside and she said I was the best tour guide she's had. Our next date was even better."
She had told me she once went to a gay club in Korea so this was my chance to see with my own eyes how far that would go. It is personally meaningful to me and special. I've spent decades focusing on my own sexual needs, I want to spend a little time helping my sexy friend explore hers. It makes me genuinely happy, to me this kgirl has done more for me than 99% of women I've met so this is a no-brain-er gift I'm giving her that night. I don't really care what others think of it, you do your thing right.
If it's been a few months or a year, I get curious and if they work at the shop again I book them and surprise them. One is a student so I sure am not going to wait for her roommate to go to class before sneaking in, which isn't even allowed anyways. And for another she lived at the shop while on tour so I visit her then usually as her first appointment of the tour. Get that out of the way. We then do a hike the next morning and get her back working after lunch. She is adventurous so ironically one of the few people I can share hiking with. I normally would have to hike alone. This pacing also helps her not to build up stress. I want her to make her goal.
I guess the "after sex" was better but only because we continued where we left off last time. It would have been the same had I not dated them. They are not going to have some secret menu they are saving for just me, when a girl works she has her routine, her mentality, and I am not one to try and shake things up. But I'll try face fucking with the kgirl and since we vibe she gives good feedback and we have fun with it and I can know her limit. There's that added trust. But I think I would have gotten that still just by seeing a girl at the shop on repeats anyways.
I made it clear from the very start that I am just having a fun day with them and don't want a relationship other than friendship. They did not look for me, I found and picked them. They were not looking for a man or a sponsor, they know I am only offering fun. I do talk with them sometimes and give them comfort and help them move on past a life problem, but that's not hard to do as a friend. I'd do that for a total stranger. I do all the time, that's why I post guides on forums. Even after I die people will still be following the bread crumbs I left for them to follow.
In two cases the girls are so young they can't even think about marriage or anything. They are figuring out their lives. One still has no idea. But that's okay, we still had fun. That was this morning. She is so wild on her off-work days I am lucky I am not her boyfriend. I drop her off better than she started, we both feel great, and I move on. She might come back in a few months or a year, she'll let me know.
Edit: She just sent me bikini selfies. This part is harmless, but her next message is "Where are you?" Do not engage in this scenario. Do not. I will wish her a happy time back to her life in Japan instead.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2942665] Does help to explain 69 and doggy but in a pinch you can do that with hand signals too. .[/QUOTE]But 69 in Japanese is "sixty nine. " And doggy style in Japanese is "doggu sutairu. " They basically use the same words for these that we do.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2942869]But 69 in Japanese is "sixty nine. " And doggy style in Japanese is "doggu sutairu. " They basically use the same words for these that we do.[/QUOTE]See at the start I did not even know that, so I used the hand signal method. I know they say doggy, but I did not know they just say 69. All these years, no ex-girlfriend taught me anything. I once got slapped by an ex just for covering the ten-ten on mango. So you can see why my dirty talk is extremely limited, they taught me zero words. I learned everything dirty from JAV and don't really hear 69 there. They just do it.
So you're telling me I wasted my time giving full sentence explanations of what 69 was. "My mouth on your pussy and your mouth on my cock" I know I said that perfectly right but they sometimes have to process it.
Another common confusion is in the US I want a girl to ride me. Again, no idea how to even say that I just describe it. So I used to always say "Sit on me" in Japanese but every time they would sit their pussy and ass on my face! So now I say okay you are going to sit on me but make sure my dick goes in your pussy. High IQ girls get it within a second, I've had some girls sit and ponder before I pull them into position.
How do you ask a girl to ride you? I've had exes pretend not to know but I could at least ask in English. I watch a ton of jdrama and anime and no, they just never say it.
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I'm not an expert. But as far as I know they call it "horse riding" but use Japanese words. It sounds like "key joe" and the letter "E" in English. So you could say "key joe ee kudusai". The 3 Kanji that make this sound look like "horse" "ride" "position".
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[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2942617]I've never seen so many differing opinions on a mongering location in Asia than in Japan. SE Asia has had relative consensus. Thailand is great; Bali pretty good; Vietnam not so good; Cambodia okay depending on where. I've never been to Korea so can't opine. Japan it's all over the board. As a potential first time visitor it's starting to feel like more of a tourist sightseeing trip than a punter trip. Which is fine -- just trying to set my expectations correctly.
Couple clarifying questions for you.
1. How was your experience with the girls and app translators?
2. Do you remember the names of the 1-2 terrible soapies in Tokyo?
3. Street hookers. Are they easy to spot in Japan as in other places, or does it take more work to ID them? I understood this was not a very big part of the P4P scene in Tokyo. How does one spot whether they have a middle man or not. Like you I would not have a lot of tolerance for that BS.
4. What hotel did you stay at in Shinjuko? Any problems with front desk or hotel with brining the girls to your room?
5. Did you partake in escort web services (delivery health)? How was that experience?[/QUOTE]So I did 10 days in Thailand before coming to Japan. Can confirm that it is fun as hell. Bangkok is a wild city. I left a detailed report in the Thailand thread if anyone's interested: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2941066&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2941066.
Thailand is definitely more welcoming of foreigners, and the women are more friendly / outgoing. But the Japanese women are far more beautiful IMO, even if they can be a bit cold sometimes. I think Japan definitely has more to offer in terms of culture and sightseeing. The mongering here is good but just super YMMV depending on your race and Japanese speaking ability. Perhaps this is why opinions are all over the place.
As for your questions:
1. The girls have been good overall but as I said, both looks and service are better for NY J-girls. I don't have any real issues using translator app. I will say though that Japanese language ability is almost treated as a kind of loyalty test out here. Doors will open if you can speak the language, and people will treat you much differently. You will be able to fuck way better girls at the stores if you're fluent. Not many English speakers in Japan, which was unexpected for me. Shibuya and Shinjuku is like 50% hot women but you can't talk to any of them English. Feels bad man. I tried to pick up some of the language for this trip but it's just so damn hard / time consuming. And unfortunately, I think Japanese is a dying language in a sense given current state of affairs with the shrinking population and imploding economy. The main reason to learn it is the women LOL. Seems like a bad idea to relocate to Japan and work twice as hard to make less than half of what one would earn each year in the USA You would probably be better served spending your time learning Spanish or Mandarin. But I digress.
2. One was nice lady in Yokohama. I don't remember the other one. Again, my general rule of thumb here is that if the store only gives me one girl to choose from, I walk out. You're gambling on that one girl being good and the odds are against you. She's probably older and not busy compared to the other girls, and this is why she is being offered up to foreigners.
3. Kabukicho is the best place is the country for tachinbo (street girls). The place is like host club paradise for the girls. And where there are hosts, there are working girls. You can usually spot the working girls based on their attire, typically short skirt and high heels. But also look at what they're doing. If a girl is just standing on the side of the street on her phone for a long time, she's probably working, waiting for a customer. You can also just go up to a girl and ask if she's playing. This is done all the time in kabukicho. You will see local guys just walk up and proposition hot young girls in the area. It normal here and girls will not get offended generally speaking. Some will just ignore you. Otherwise will apologize and tell you that they are not a working girl LOL. These ladies don't have middle men afaik.
4. I stayed at the granbell hotel and I was bringing girls back every night. They don't give a shit. Just make sure you register for two guests. Or simply use the side entrance, as I did. I would not recommend getting a love hotel in the area, unless you have to. They usually have crappy rooms that stink of cigarettes. And some love hotels will try to charge you extra if you bring multiple girls back. A regular hotel in Shinjuku is much better, just make sure it's inside Kabukicho, as the girls won't be willing to walk more than 10-15 minutes.
5. I only did delivery once in Sapporo and it was awful. I think I mentioned this in my original post. I used an agency called college girl kiss and they bait and switched me with chubby 30's girl. Spent 34 k, tried to cancel and get a 10 k refund when I saw the girl. Maybe I should've checked the pics and reviews more carefully, but as someone else mentioned, reviews are not very helpful in Japan since the agency controls the board and will just delete any bad feedback. I heard that Delice is very good for DH in Shinjuku and club valentine is very good for Osaka. But I've yet to try either myself.
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[QUOTE=Runon99;2942301]I've never noticed such a claim of full service on a soapland website, but I've also not noticed on such sites that "production" or "the actual act" -- euphemisms for vaginal intercourse -- are forbidden.
Such notices ARE included on the websites of delivery health / etc. Shops. For example, on that Robot Deliheru site it says:
"It is forbidden (by the law) to require or force the girls to act in real performance. ".
But on that Soapland Barubola Marin site, there is no mention of the full service euphemisms on the prohibited list. It's like the dog that didn't bark in the Sherlock Holmes story.
More than once the phrase "this is not a sex shop" was uttered to me in Japan in fashion health places, so it was slightly jarring when I heard "this is a sex shop" when I entered a soapland in Fukuoka.
So yes, soapland places (or restaurant association places in Osaka) will not explicitly advertise full service but, as the saying goes, if you know, you know.[/QUOTE]LOL this one of those werid lost in translation things. Soaplands are bath house not sexual business. It makes zero sense but that's what there classified as. But yet they are pretty much full services brothels.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2942422]Show me on any fast food restaurant website where they say they sell garbage food that makes you fat and unhealthy.
Yet that is exactly true.
And every soapland in Japan is full service even if there isn't a sign on the door that says "fuck pussy inside".[/QUOTE]Actually not comparable at all. According to their business license they are not a sexually service business they are a bath house for taking baths. Where as delivery health and pink salons are sexual service business license. This was from a friend who works at one. They can get in trouble if the customer doesn't take a bath. She even told me they have inspectors who come round from time to time and check soap house as "customers" (man would love that job.) if they don't get a bath they come back and raid it for prostitution. Itried to rationalize it with the girl cause saying how does the bath make it any different a sexual business but basically everyone looks the other way an ignores it.
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[QUOTE=Pegasus887;2942271]As far as I know they have never participated on TAG. The moderators were alarmed at the amount of positive reviews being posted about the service by new users when they first started and came to the conclusion that they were all "fake" reviews. Why would they need to sabotage other businesses when they have a huge market share jeopardizing their future?
It seems ridiculous for an independent forum to be moderated in this manner without any outside business interests.[/QUOTE]So ask yourself this is it odd that their the only business group is banned on the forum. If they don't have any issues and they are the best there is. Why is there's the only business group banned on the forum. I have yet to see any other shop be banned they way they have. That alone is telling to me. As far I know the forum hasn't moderated any other shop the way they have been moderated that group. Yes they were actively on there and on here LOL they actively monitor this forum hell if you pay close enough attention on here you'll see girlfriend and hentai add banner. Also at the time of the ban they did not have a huge market share they were just starting out. They were just begining and trying get into market share.
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[QUOTE=David032;2942967]Actually not comparable at all. According to their business license they are not a sexually service business they are a bath house for taking baths. Where as delivery health and pink salons are sexual service business license. This was from a friend who works at one. They can get in trouble if the customer doesn't take a bath. She even told me they have inspectors who come round from time to time and check soap house as "customers" (man would love that job.) if they don't get a bath they come back and raid it for prostitution. Itried to rationalize it with the girl cause saying how does the bath make it any different a sexual business but basically everyone looks the other way an ignores it.[/QUOTE]I don't know what you're going on about, and really I don't care. The point is that all soaplands do full service, and everyone that goes to a soapland knows they do full service. That is all. Carry on.
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[QUOTE=JPLove;2942958]So I did 10 days in Thailand before coming to Japan. Can confirm that it is fun as hell. Bangkok is a wild city. I left a detailed report in the Thailand thread if anyone's interested: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2941066&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2941066.
Thailand is definitely more welcoming of foreigners, and the women are more friendly / outgoing. But the Japanese women are far more beautiful IMO, even if they can be a bit cold sometimes. I think Japan definitely has more to offer in terms of culture and sightseeing. The mongering here is good but just super YMMV depending on your race and Japanese speaking ability. Perhaps this is why opinions are all over the place.
myself.[/QUOTE]Much appreciated JP. Trip will include 6 days in Phuket and 6 days BKK (6th time) before Japan. Being a white guy from the USA only knowing "Hello, "you are very beautiful" etc. In Japanese I'll be at disadvantage. But Japan is a sightseeing trip first anyway. I'll take best advice from this forum, smile, show respect and hope for the best. Always wanted to see the country anyway.
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Tag
[QUOTE=David032;2942972]So ask yourself this is it odd that their the only business group is banned on the forum. If they don't have any issues and they are the best there is. Why is there's the only business group banned on the forum. I have yet to see any other shop be banned they way they have. That alone is telling to me. As far I know the forum hasn't moderated any other shop the way they have been moderated that group. Yes they were actively on there and on here LOL they actively monitor this forum hell if you pay close enough attention on here you'll see girlfriend and hentai add banner. Also at the time of the ban they did not have a huge market share they were just starting out. They were just begining and trying get into market share.[/QUOTE]They are not the only place banned on the forum, Nasty dolls who were direct competitors to Asian Mystique were also banned before THC. Geisha eyes, around 2012 to name another. All the other Japanese shops doing the same type of business are blacklisted if you haven't noticed. This includes several Japanese independents who relied on TAG for clients that called out Chris (Sudsy / TAG Manager) on a big post before they started charging them to "post" on the site.
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[QUOTE] I've had way better experiences in NYC overall. Had a few very memorable girls in Kabukicho plus that soapland chick in Sapporo, but overall I've found NY had consistently hotter girls with better service. I tend to agree with other posters that Japan is nice for things you can't get in NY like oppai bars, mat play / nuru massage and weird fetish shit like harassment shops. However, if you're just interested in some hot Japanese GFE action, FS and maybe some extras like BBFS and video, NYC is king.[/QUOTE]Hi JPLove, can you hook me up with the scene in NYC. I live on the East coast but don't know any way to monger here in the US. My experience is always in Asia. A long weekend to NYC would make departure from Asia fuckation back to US more tolerable until one year later. Thanks!
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[QUOTE=LastDrop;2943496]Hi JPLove, can you hook me up with the scene in NYC. I live on the East coast but don't know any way to monger here in the US. My experience is always in Asia. A long weekend to NYC would make departure from Asia fuckation back to US more tolerable until one year later. Thanks![/QUOTE]There is a small but friendly little community of NYC-based mongers (plus out of town enthusiasts) who are dedicated to banging as many J-girl visitors as they can. They gather on the USA version of this very website. I recommend reading back as many pages as you can and then following along and soon you will get the hang of all their lingo and know about all the best spots for J-girls in Manhattan. Reports very often include links to the shops' websites, so most of your basic questions will be answered just by reading.
Pro-tip: if they refer to a girl going to "Falashing" they actually mean Flushing.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan[/URL]
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Looking for something new, I tried a place called "Tokyo Amateur Escort. ".
[URL]https://amateurtokyo.com[/URL]
Website is in English. Guy I talked to spoke English too. So it was simple to set up.
I had a girl named Chisato Sakashita: [URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/%e5%9d%82%e4%b8%8b%e3%81%a1%e3%81%95%e3%81%a8/[/URL].
Her picture was obviously edited, but honestly not by much. I was pretty surprised when I met her in Shibuya.
21 years old. Looked to be accurate. Very pretty, nice skin, great figure, a little timid. Probably because I'm an older foreigner! But she was friendly and willing.
Fun sized with nice little tits. Like my brother always says, "a handful is enough. ".
Chisato can speak just enough English to get by. Google translate did the rest.
The price was agreed upon in advance. 17,000 Yen for 50 min + 2,000 Yen admission + 2,000 Yen for picking my own girl.
I also paid 10,000 directly to her for "AF". Once I saw her naked, I was thinking man I could really enjoy getting in that tight little butt hole. Ended up getting in the other hole instead, but that was even better.
Her blowjob matches her timid spirit. She gave a pretty good handjob though when I was sucking on those little pink nips. She was responsive and wet when I dined at the why too. Maybe that's why she let me slip it in?
Whatever the reason I lucked out on this one. Sometimes you try a new place and it's a total bust. I got more than I bargained for with Chisato. Definitely one of the prettier girls I've booked in Tokyo and more mileage than I usually get too.
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[QUOTE=Runon99;2943794]There is a small but friendly little community of NYC-based mongers (plus out of town enthusiasts) who are dedicated to banging as many J-girl visitors as they can. They gather on the USA version of this very website. I recommend reading back as many pages as you can and then following along and soon you will get the hang of all their lingo and know about all the best spots for J-girls in Manhattan. Reports very often include links to the shops' websites, so most of your basic questions will be answered just by reading.
Pro-tip: if they refer to a girl going to "Falashing" they actually mean Flushing.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you so much for the info. I will RTFF! I a little scare mongering in the states because big bro always watching. I fear they even trick you and catch you in the act. That's why I always travel oversea instead of our own country.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2943983]Looking for something new, I tried a place called "Tokyo Amateur Escort. ".
[URL]https://amateurtokyo.com[/URL]
Website is in English. Guy I talked to spoke English too. So it was simple to set up.
I had a girl named Chisato Sakashita: [URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/%e5%9d%82%e4%b8%8b%e3%81%a1%e3%81%95%e3%81%a8/[/URL].
Her picture was obviously edited, but honestly not by much. I was pretty surprised when I met her in Shibuya.
21 years old. Looked to be accurate. Very pretty, nice skin, great figure, a little timid. Probably because I'm an older foreigner! But she was friendly and willing.
Fun sized with nice little tits. Like my brother always says, "a handful is enough. ".
Chisato can speak just enough English to get by. Google translate did the rest.
The price was agreed upon in advance. 17,000 Yen for 50 min + 2,000 Yen admission + 2,000 Yen for picking my own girl.
I also paid 10,000 directly to her for "AF". Once I saw her naked, I was thinking man I could really enjoy getting in that tight little butt hole. Ended up getting in the other hole instead, but that was even better.
Her blowjob matches her timid spirit. She gave a pretty good handjob though when I was sucking on those little pink nips. She was responsive and wet when I dined at the why too. Maybe that's why she let me slip it in?
Whatever the reason I lucked out on this one. Sometimes you try a new place and it's a total bust. I got more than I bargained for with Chisato. Definitely one of the prettier girls I've booked in Tokyo and more mileage than I usually get too.[/QUOTE]Have you done intercourse with the girl please?
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[QUOTE=Didier5810;2944098]Have you done intercourse with the girl please?[/QUOTE]Did you even read his post?
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Dating apps
How well do dating apps like bumble, tinder work in Japan? Would it be possible to score a good chick via dating app?
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[QUOTE=Pompy090;2944130]How well do dating apps like bumble, tinder work in Japan? Would it be possible to score a good chick via dating app?[/QUOTE]Japanese people mainly use local apps like Dine.
[URL]https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dating.dine.dine&hl=en_US&pli=1[/URL]
Tinder is terrible in Tokyo. Bumble only slightly better.
If you're a tourist, it's going to be very difficult no matter the app.
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Vacation
[QUOTE=JPLove;2942958]So I did 10 days in Thailand before coming to Japan. Can confirm that it is fun as hell. Bangkok is a wild city. I left a detailed report in the Thailand thread if anyone's interested: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2941066&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2941066.
Thailand is definitely more welcoming of foreigners, and the women are more friendly / outgoing. But the Japanese women are far more beautiful IMO, even if they can be a bit cold sometimes. I think Japan definitely has more to offer in terms of culture and sightseeing. The mongering here is good but just super YMMV depending on your race and Japanese speaking ability. Perhaps this is why opinions are all over the place.
As for your questions:
1. The girls have been good overall but as I said, both looks and service are better for NY J-girls. I don't have any real issues using translator app. I will say though that Japanese language ability is almost treated as a kind of loyalty test out here. Doors will open if you can speak the language, and people will treat you much differently. You will be able to fuck way better girls at the stores if you're fluent. Not many English speakers in Japan, which was unexpected for me. Shibuya and Shinjuku is like 50% hot women but you can't talk to any of them English. Feels bad man. I tried to pick up some of the language for this trip but it's just so damn hard / time consuming. And unfortunately, I think Japanese is a dying language in a sense given current state of affairs with the shrinking population and imploding economy. The main reason to learn it is the women LOL. Seems like a bad idea to relocate to Japan and work twice as hard to make less than half of what one would earn each year in the USA You would probably be better served spending your time learning Spanish or Mandarin. But I digress.
2. One was nice lady in Yokohama. I don't remember the other one. Again, my general rule of thumb here is that if the store only gives me one girl to choose from, I walk out. You're gambling on that one girl being good and the odds are against you. She's probably older and not busy compared to the other girls, and this is why she is being offered up to foreigners.
3. Kabukicho is the best place is the country for tachinbo (street girls). The place is like host club paradise for the girls. And where there are hosts, there are working girls. You can usually spot the working girls based on their attire, typically short skirt and high heels. But also look at what they're doing. If a girl is just standing on the side of the street on her phone for a long time, she's probably working, waiting for a customer. You can also just go up to a girl and ask if she's playing. This is done all the time in kabukicho. You will see local guys just walk up and proposition hot young girls in the area. It normal here and girls will not get offended generally speaking. Some will just ignore you. Otherwise will apologize and tell you that they are not a working girl LOL. These ladies don't have middle men afaik.
4. I stayed at the granbell hotel and I was bringing girls back every night. They don't give a shit. Just make sure you register for two guests. Or simply use the side entrance, as I did. I would not recommend getting a love hotel in the area, unless you have to. They usually have crappy rooms that stink of cigarettes. And some love hotels will try to charge you extra if you bring multiple girls back. A regular hotel in Shinjuku is much better, just make sure it's inside Kabukicho, as the girls won't be willing to walk more than 10-15 minutes.
5. I only did delivery once in Sapporo and it was awful. I think I mentioned this in my original post. I used an agency called college girl kiss and they bait and switched me with chubby 30's girl. Spent 34 k, tried to cancel and get a 10 k refund when I saw the girl. Maybe I should've checked the pics and reviews more carefully, but as someone else mentioned, reviews are not very helpful in Japan since the agency controls the board and will just delete any bad feedback. I heard that Delice is very good for DH in Shinjuku and club valentine is very good for Osaka. But I've yet to try either myself.[/QUOTE]I'm coming to Japan in April 2025, I'm a monger from Orange County California. I'm looking forward to sampling some of the beautiful Japanese women.
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I just tried Miri at THC. Very cute / petite / short girl. If you're into the short and small look she'd be right up your alley. I like variation so I was pretty pleased with what I saw. She looks more or less like her pics if you can see through the filters they use.
https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=2573
Small tits and small ass, but it looks right on her small body. Very good girl over all.
English level was low. BJ level was high. Nice sloppy BBBJCIM for the first short. I paid for the "instant blowjob" so she dropped to her knees and sucked me off right after we go in the room.
Showered together and with a little time left we went for another round. I usually end with one shot but I had time to blow and soaping up her tight little body got me horny again. Precisely it was tight little butt hole. I washed it thoroughly and made it squeaky clean.
Second round was lots of kissing and touching. Got her in 69 position and since she was so much shorter I was able to stare at her little buckeye while she went back to slobbing on my knob. She got even wetter and more enthusiastic with it this time. Finally shot right into her mouth with time running out. I felt like Larry Bird at the buzzer.
Definitely a good experience, and probably the best BBBJCIM I've had at THC.
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Guide to shops in Japan
[QUOTE=LucBlake;2945257]I'm coming to Japan in April 2025, I'm a monger from Orange County California. I'm looking forward to sampling some of the beautiful Japanese women.[/QUOTE]Everyone wants something a little different. Are you looking for FS or sampling something unique? Japan has a lot of different levels of play. I'll try to summarize them below. My hope is to visit Japan again May 2025 but not confirmed yet.
[B]Shop types[/B]
Maid cafe = No alcohol. Girls in costumes come and call you master and serve you curry and other simple dishes, etc. You can pay for a polaroid with them and play other games and activities. There are many variants based on them, often based on the type of costume. But the basic idea is the same. Very tame.
Hostess club = Old fashioned club where you talk to ladies and get served alcohol and compliments. They light your cigarettes, remember your birthday, laugh at your jokes. Vast majority are no touch but girls might gently touch you. Some offer takeout UTR but that is between you and the girl only and not the main draw. This is for older gentlemen that want to be entertained and served with reverence the way their wife at home doesn't.
Girls bar = This is a new style club where you chat with girls and drink alcohol. Girl is similar to hostess and they rotate, or sometimes they are the bartender. Girls tend to be cuter and younger, with less expectation on talking skill. They laugh at your jokes, it is more friendly and casual than hostess club. Vast majority are no touch but girls might gently touch you.
Oppai bar = Touching and kissing anything above the waist is allowed including, sucking on tits and kissing the girl. The most common system is 3 girls every 40 minutes. Many sub-variants to this including costumes and themes but the idea is the same. For example there are sexy cabarets where the girls line up on a stage and you pick the girl by number and they call the girl down. Like a girls bar, girls tend to be hotter and younger than hostess clubs.
BJ / HJ bar = There are too many variants to describe, but as I said in the other post there are some that will send you 2 or 3 girls in a row. Some operate more like soapland lite where you have less options than soapland. Sometimes ordered a la carte (ex. The same girl might offer BJ or HJ, upcharge for certain acts, etc.).
Fetish club = There are too many variants to describe, but for example at one shop I walk into a room and 2-3 schoolgirls are blindfolded and chained for me. I can harass them for 5 minutes until I pick which girl to take upstairs. Then it becomes plain old soapland, maybe sumatra the standard course. Another example is where they are on a train complete with special effects in the frosted windows as if you are riding the train. They hold on to the handle and ignore you completely as you harass them.
Delivery Health = You reserve a time (and usually a girl), and then go to a hotel and let them know where to meet. They then come to your place, your hotel, or more often a love hotel. FS is not guaranteed but you can negotiate in the room.
Soapland = Incall, sex is generally guaranteed but technically you are only paying for time (FS is illegal but you get it anyways), so sometimes the girl sees you are a noob and just says "time up". Ask for sex in that case, I've always gotten it.
Streetwalkers / Tachinbo = In some areas girls will stand around and you can take them to your hotel.
There's a lot more but those are the common ones. I mean for example I saw a new one which is called 'robot delivery' where the girl comes to your place to bang but she doesn't say a single word. Sounds like heaven for an introvert.
These options are very regional, with some cities and areas much better and common for certain shops.
[B]Related guides[/B]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927559&viewfull=1#post2927559[/URL] My main guide on oppai pubs, recommend as cheap fun with cute girls and great service you can't have outside of Japan.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927688&viewfull=1#post2927688[/URL] Oppai pubs.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927714&viewfull=1#post2927714[/URL] Oppai pubs.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=6992852&viewfull=1#post6992852[/URL] Handjobs for $13 and blowjobs for $26, very cute girls
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2928099&viewfull=1#post2928099[/URL] More about cheap handjobs and blowjobs (it was a phase for me).
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2933352#post2933352[/URL] FS.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2932207&viewfull=1#post2932207[/URL] FS.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2927621&viewfull=1#post2927621[/URL] Kira Kira, a cheap and foreigner-friendly soap in Yokohama.
[B]Fun in Tokyo region[/B]
If you want a cheap and easy soapland to try out that is foreigner friendly with no gaijin tax, Kira Kira in Yokohama is a good start. They have rule sheets in Japanese, English, Korean, Chinese. There are much more expensive options all around Tokyo.
Walking around busy parts of Japan after 6pm, you are going to see girls holding up signs. You can see in the first photo below 3 girls with signs listing the price hanging on their necks. Like they were puppies on sale. That's hot. It shows it's a 3000 yen "special entry rate" for a girl's bar / pub. If I had to pick two girls, I would pick the girl on the right twice. Just saying.
Girls with signs are most often advertising for girls' bars or maid cafes where you chat with cute girls. Chat only. Girls who don't hold up signs are more often going to be offering somethings else, there are a lot of varieties. For example on a few streets I will encounter Chinese girls calling out "massagu" - massage. Hjs are sometimes possible but the cuter girls tend to only offer massage and the lightest extras. Don't be shy to ask if a girl offers HJ / BJ they will just say so. Walk past them and on many streets I will see newhalfs and such at the end, sometimes with touts. There may also be streetwalkers, sometimes with touts sometimes on their own. There is an etiquette where they may be evenly spaced out so you can talk with them in private. They are used to getting harassed by lookie-loos so they will only respond to serious offers. Do not approach random women, there are known spots. People stand around in Japan all the time, don't assume. Okubo Park in Kabukicho is one of them.
For nampa Shibuya and Roppongi are best. Roppongi especially Friday and Saturday nights at the club areas. It isn't always easy but I picked up girls without planning to, but it can be time consuming. It's not really my thing, I'd rather spend my time having fun and pay to play. Then if I find a shop or girl I like, I can see them whenever I like. Other than FS the options are pretty cheap and easy.
With girls holding up signs, when business is slow like early hours 6 pm-9 pm the girls stand out to advertise so if you pick that girl you get to start with her.
Oppai pubs are where you get 3 girls in 40 minutes, all you can drink beer. Go to Kabukicho in Shinjuku for them. Each girl comes by and you can chat and touch or have them straddle you. I usually start by having them put their legs over mine, some girls will be heels off. Second half they drop their tops and you can kiss them or suck on their tits. You can buy them drinks (basically the way to tip them) or extend with a girl you like. I once extended repeatedly with a girl all night because she was a 10 out of 10 for me, 20 years old. I won't go into details but kissing her was amazing. Depending on if you buy them drinks or extend a girl the price is minimum 6000 yen (if you go before rush our like 9 pm) ranging up to 12000 yen (you buy drinks and extend) per 40 minutes ($40 to $80). You can't get that service at a US strip club for those prices, let along with young girls that flatter you and laugh at your jokes. As I said in my other post one girl hopped on my lap and apologized for being 25 years old. Not the first time I got that, 25 is considered old for an oppai pub. I forgave her.
The reason some hot girls work oppai pubs is it pays double to triple hostess / girl's pub rates without requiring their pussy. There is no tipping but you buy them drinks, and some guys will buy the next level drink which is champagne such as Dom Prignon, coasting about $670. Literally 10 x as much as I was spending just to simp. Or renting a VIP room. So in a way, it's basically speed dating to find a simp! That's where the real money is, if they find those whales they're making more money than even FS work. If the whale is big enough and just starts dating her as a mistress, then even more than US FS work. Some girls do just that and quit a few weeks later. But until they do, you can lick their tits.
Most customers don't realize this is the end game, it's the same way casinos make most of their money off the whales. Every time I went I was amazed that one or two customers among the 10-20 were whales buying Dom Prignon or champagne towers. With the added sparklers and cheering from staff, it made it a bit awkward for me to turn back to my girl and keep sucking on her tits. But I did.
2nd and 3rd photo is Rito from Hosekinobako, the 2nd hottest girl I saw this year. I only post real photos that is her. She has tiny feet she rested bare on my leg, she is a great kisser too. No hesitation for play whatsoever so after she gave me her card I asked for her the next visit. The staff loudly announced it for all the other girls to hear "Rito was nominated, Rito was nominated". Surreal. I do not have a photo for the hottest girl because she had just started. Another girl I made out with for 3 hours, pictured next. She also did not have a shop photo so I included her photo from another shop. The great thing about all you can drink beer and buying the girl drinks you just keep getting more handsome and the girl even better. But she was adorable to start, she was brand new and when kissing would open her eyes and look left and right. I taught her how to kiss better and while you don't touch the girl's bottom unless she invites you, I could press myself against her as she straddled me. She has cute eyes, just wide open the moment we started kissing until we took a break. I'll never forget.
Next photo is the Leicester lineup. Those were the actual girls, I kissed 3 of them. Maybe you can kiss them all. Next is a photo of girls at a girl's pub (this one is a girls' bar where they are the bartenders), faces covered. If you actually go, they will take selfies with you so hiding the face is just a teaser.
The other thing is in Japan there are rip-off prices sky high, either for rich Japanese who care about a luxurious room or gaijin who don't know better and can't speak Japanese. So when you see crazy prices, those are tourist prices and you can ignore them. They don't represent Japan prices (see Kirakira for the lower end of prices basically $125/$181).
At Kirakira Yokohama soapland (FS), the rates are 50 minutes for 18000 yen ($125), 70 minutes for 26000 ($181), which is on the cheaper side for Japan but not far off. Girls range from mid-20's to mid-30's, decent but not like the jgirls we get by a significant gap. The hottest girl there wouldn't even qualify in the US, even though you'd be happy and she'd worship you like a King. Soapland service is good, but not quite kgirl good. But that is still world class to be clear (I consider kgirl service to also be world class, especially the milfs).
One reason I suggest KiraKira is a lot of Tokyo places are either expensive, don't allow foreigners (or many girls don't take foreigners), or charge a hefty foreigner tax. See the 'price list' with orange border below. One is the Japanese price, the other is the foreigner price. You have to pay 60%-80% more for the exact same service, which is already more expensive to begin with. Not at Kira Kira.
Another photo is of the price list at a BJ / HJ shop. It is one girl you pick almost like a soapland lite, then pick your upcharges. These are Tokyo prices, I have seen much better deals in cheaper cities.
[B]Good to be king[/B]
Bonus first photo is of girl from Hadaka no Ousama, real photo said she was 22. Literally anything goes except dick in pussy. You pick 1-3 girls and enter the fun room together. FIV encouraged as long as you are gentle and sanitize.
Hadaka no Ousama translates to "Emperor with no clothes" or "The naked King". The Ousama game in Japanese culture means one person is king and everyone does what they say (like Simon says). Except in this case the King has to be naked. Ask the girls to suck you in alphabetical order, or point and gesture if your Japanese is limited. Issue official proclamations as King. Okay I was young at the time and it was a phase.
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Excellent report
This is a report of distinction. Thank you mate.
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2946666]Everyone wants something a little different. Are you looking for FS or sampling something unique? Japan has a lot of different levels of play. I'll try to summarize them below. My hope is to visit Japan again May 2025 but not confirmed yet.
[B]Shop types[/B]
Maid cafe = No alcohol. Girls in costumes come and call you master and serve you curry and other simple dishes, etc. You can pay for a polaroid with them and play other games and activities. There are many variants based on them, often based on the type of costume. But the basic idea is the same. Very tame.
Hostess club = Old fashioned club where you talk to ladies and get served alcohol and compliments. They light your cigarettes, remember your birthday, laugh at your jokes. Vast majority are no touch but girls might gently touch you. Some offer takeout UTR but that is between you and the girl only and not the main draw. This is for older gentlemen that want to be entertained and served with reverence the way their wife at home doesn't.
Girls bar = This is a new style club where you chat with girls and drink alcohol. Girl is similar to hostess and they rotate, or sometimes they are the bartender. Girls tend to be cuter and younger, with less expectation on talking skill. They laugh at your jokes, it is more friendly and casual than hostess club. Vast majority are no touch but girls might gently touch you.
Oppai bar = Touching and kissing anything above the waist is allowed including, sucking on tits and kissing the girl. The most common system is 3 girls every 40 minutes. Many sub-variants to this including costumes and themes but the idea is the same. For example there are sexy cabarets where the girls line up on a stage and you pick the girl by number and they call the girl down. Like a girls bar, girls tend to be hotter and younger than hostess clubs.
BJ / HJ bar = There are too many variants to describe, but as I said in the other post there are some that will send you 2 or 3 girls in a row. Some operate more like soapland lite where you have less options than soapland. Sometimes ordered a la carte (ex. The same girl might offer BJ or HJ, upcharge for certain acts, etc.).
Fetish club = There are too many variants to describe, but for example at one shop I walk into a room and 2-3 schoolgirls are blindfolded and chained for me. I can harass them for 5 minutes until I pick which girl to take upstairs. Then it becomes plain old soapland, maybe sumatra the standard course. Another example is where they are on a train complete with special effects in the frosted windows as if you are riding the train. They hold on to the handle and ignore you completely as you harass them.
Delivery Health = You reserve a time (and usually a girl), and then go to a hotel and let them know where to meet. They then come to your place, your hotel, or more often a love hotel. FS is not guaranteed but you can negotiate in the room.
Soapland = Incall, sex is generally guaranteed but technically you are only paying for time (FS is illegal but you get it anyways), so sometimes the girl sees you are a noob and just says "time up". Ask for sex in that case, I've always gotten it.
Streetwalkers / Tachinbo = In some areas girls will stand around and you can take them to your hotel.
There's a lot more but those are the common ones. I mean for example I saw a new one which is called 'robot delivery' where the girl comes to your place to bang but she doesn't say a single word. Sounds like heaven for an introvert.
These options are very regional, with some cities and areas much better and common for certain shops.
[B]Related guides[/B]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927559&viewfull=1#post2927559[/URL] My main guide on oppai pubs, recommend as cheap fun with cute girls and great service you can't have outside of Japan.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927688&viewfull=1#post2927688[/URL] Oppai pubs.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927714&viewfull=1#post2927714[/URL] Oppai pubs.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=6992852&viewfull=1#post6992852[/URL] Handjobs for $13 and blowjobs for $26, very cute girls
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2928099&viewfull=1#post2928099[/URL] More about cheap handjobs and blowjobs (it was a phase for me).
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2933352#post2933352[/URL] FS.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2932207&viewfull=1#post2932207[/URL] FS.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2927621&viewfull=1#post2927621[/URL] Kira Kira, a cheap and foreigner-friendly soap in Yokohama.
[B]Fun in Tokyo region[/B]
If you want a cheap and easy soapland to try out that is foreigner friendly with no gaijin tax, Kira Kira in Yokohama is a good start. They have rule sheets in Japanese, English, Korean, Chinese. There are much more expensive options all around Tokyo.
Walking around busy parts of Japan after 6pm, you are going to see girls holding up signs. You can see in the first photo below 3 girls with signs listing the price hanging on their necks. Like they were puppies on sale. That's hot. It shows it's a 3000 yen "special entry rate" for a girl's bar / pub. If I had to pick two girls, I would pick the girl on the right twice. Just saying.
Girls with signs are most often advertising for girls' bars or maid cafes where you chat with cute girls. Chat only. Girls who don't hold up signs are more often going to be offering somethings else, there are a lot of varieties. For example on a few streets I will encounter Chinese girls calling out "massagu" - massage. Hjs are sometimes possible but the cuter girls tend to only offer massage and the lightest extras. Don't be shy to ask if a girl offers HJ / BJ they will just say so. Walk past them and on many streets I will see newhalfs and such at the end, sometimes with touts. There may also be streetwalkers, sometimes with touts sometimes on their own. There is an etiquette where they may be evenly spaced out so you can talk with them in private. They are used to getting harassed by lookie-loos so they will only respond to serious offers. Do not approach random women, there are known spots. People stand around in Japan all the time, don't assume. Okubo Park in Kabukicho is one of them.
For nampa Shibuya and Roppongi are best. Roppongi especially Friday and Saturday nights at the club areas. It isn't always easy but I picked up girls without planning to, but it can be time consuming. It's not really my thing, I'd rather spend my time having fun and pay to play. Then if I find a shop or girl I like, I can see them whenever I like. Other than FS the options are pretty cheap and easy.
With girls holding up signs, when business is slow like early hours 6 pm-9 pm the girls stand out to advertise so if you pick that girl you get to start with her.
Oppai pubs are where you get 3 girls in 40 minutes, all you can drink beer. Go to Kabukicho in Shinjuku for them. Each girl comes by and you can chat and touch or have them straddle you. I usually start by having them put their legs over mine, some girls will be heels off. Second half they drop their tops and you can kiss them or suck on their tits. You can buy them drinks (basically the way to tip them) or extend with a girl you like. I once extended repeatedly with a girl all night because she was a 10 out of 10 for me, 20 years old. I won't go into details but kissing her was amazing. Depending on if you buy them drinks or extend a girl the price is minimum 6000 yen (if you go before rush our like 9 pm) ranging up to 12000 yen (you buy drinks and extend) per 40 minutes ($40 to $80). You can't get that service at a US strip club for those prices, let along with young girls that flatter you and laugh at your jokes. As I said in my other post one girl hopped on my lap and apologized for being 25 years old. Not the first time I got that, 25 is considered old for an oppai pub. I forgave her.
The reason some hot girls work oppai pubs is it pays double to triple hostess / girl's pub rates without requiring their pussy. There is no tipping but you buy them drinks, and some guys will buy the next level drink which is champagne such as Dom Prignon, coasting about $670. Literally 10 x as much as I was spending just to simp. Or renting a VIP room. So in a way, it's basically speed dating to find a simp! That's where the real money is, if they find those whales they're making more money than even FS work. If the whale is big enough and just starts dating her as a mistress, then even more than US FS work. Some girls do just that and quit a few weeks later. But until they do, you can lick their tits.
Most customers don't realize this is the end game, it's the same way casinos make most of their money off the whales. Every time I went I was amazed that one or two customers among the 10-20 were whales buying Dom Prignon or champagne towers. With the added sparklers and cheering from staff, it made it a bit awkward for me to turn back to my girl and keep sucking on her tits. But I did.
2nd and 3rd photo is Rito from Hosekinobako, the 2nd hottest girl I saw this year. I only post real photos that is her. She has tiny feet she rested bare on my leg, she is a great kisser too. No hesitation for play whatsoever so after she gave me her card I asked for her the next visit. The staff loudly announced it for all the other girls to hear "Rito was nominated, Rito was nominated". Surreal. I do not have a photo for the hottest girl because she had just started. Another girl I made out with for 3 hours, pictured next. She also did not have a shop photo so I included her photo from another shop. The great thing about all you can drink beer and buying the girl drinks you just keep getting more handsome and the girl even better. But she was adorable to start, she was brand new and when kissing would open her eyes and look left and right. I taught her how to kiss better and while you don't touch the girl's bottom unless she invites you, I could press myself against her as she straddled me. She has cute eyes, just wide open the moment we started kissing until we took a break. I'll never forget.
Next photo is the Leicester lineup. Those were the actual girls, I kissed 3 of them. Maybe you can kiss them all. Next is a photo of girls at a girl's pub (this one is a girls' bar where they are the bartenders), faces covered. If you actually go, they will take selfies with you so hiding the face is just a teaser.
The other thing is in Japan there are rip-off prices sky high, either for rich Japanese who care about a luxurious room or gaijin who don't know better and can't speak Japanese. So when you see crazy prices, those are tourist prices and you can ignore them. They don't represent Japan prices (see Kirakira for the lower end of prices basically $125/$181).
At Kirakira Yokohama soapland (FS), the rates are 50 minutes for 18000 yen ($125), 70 minutes for 26000 ($181), which is on the cheaper side for Japan but not far off. Girls range from mid-20's to mid-30's, decent but not like the jgirls we get by a significant gap. The hottest girl there wouldn't even qualify in the US, even though you'd be happy and she'd worship you like a King. Soapland service is good, but not quite kgirl good. But that is still world class to be clear (I consider kgirl service to also be world class, especially the milfs).
One reason I suggest KiraKira is a lot of Tokyo places are either expensive, don't allow foreigners (or many girls don't take foreigners), or charge a hefty foreigner tax. See the 'price list' with orange border below. One is the Japanese price, the other is the foreigner price. You have to pay 60%-80% more for the exact same service, which is already more expensive to begin with. Not at Kira Kira.
Another photo is of the price list at a BJ / HJ shop. It is one girl you pick almost like a soapland lite, then pick your upcharges. These are Tokyo prices, I have seen much better deals in cheaper cities.
[B]Good to be king[/B]
Bonus first photo is of girl from Hadaka no Ousama, real photo said she was 22. Literally anything goes except dick in pussy. You pick 1-3 girls and enter the fun room together. FIV encouraged as long as you are gentle and sanitize.
Hadaka no Ousama translates to "Emperor with no clothes" or "The naked King". The Ousama game in Japanese culture means one person is king and everyone does what they say (like Simon says). Except in this case the King has to be naked. Ask the girls to suck you in alphabetical order, or point and gesture if your Japanese is limited. Issue official proclamations as King. Okay I was young at the time and it was a phase.[/QUOTE]
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Thank you X
Thank you traveler X for the best and most comprehensive post in the Tokyo thread. Maybe best post ever. Just really deep and comprehensive and detailed. Thanks!
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About Tachinbo
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2946666]Streetwalkers / Tachinbo = In some areas girls will stand around and you can take them to your hotel.[/QUOTE]Hi thank you very much for your precious post! I really appreciated!
I have one question about Tachinbo.
I find surprising if you just approach and ask for FS and price.
How much is it for FS with Tachinbo? They speak English?
I just like the fact of walking around a city saw a pretty girl, tachinbo, and ask for service. Look very nice thing to do.
I news in this world and I would like one day go in Tokyo with all info in mind for don't loss time.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2946666]Everyone wants something a little different. Are you looking for FS or sampling something unique? Japan has a lot of different levels of play. I'll try to summarize them below. My hope is to visit Japan again May 2025 but not confirmed yet.
[B]Shop types[/B]
Maid cafe = No alcohol. Girls in costumes come and call you master and serve you curry and other simple dishes, etc. You can pay for a polaroid with them and play other games and activities. There are many variants based on them, often based on the type of costume. But the basic idea is the same. Very tame.
Hadaka no Ousama translates to "Emperor with no clothes" or "The naked King". The Ousama game in Japanese culture means one person is king and everyone does what they say (like Simon says). Except in this case the King has to be naked. Ask the girls to suck you in alphabetical order, or point and gesture if your Japanese is limited. Issue official proclamations as King. Okay I was young at the time and it was a phase.[/QUOTE]Excellent and Comprehensive report on mongering in Tokyo / Japan. I wish I knew all those shops when I visited last time. I have recommended it for ROD (Report of Distinction).
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[QUOTE=ElChangito;2947006]I have one question about Tachinbo.
I find surprising if you just approach and ask for FS and price.
How much is it for FS with Tachinbo? They speak English?
I just like the fact of walking around a city saw a pretty girl, tachinbo, and ask for service. Look very nice thing to do.[/QUOTE]So I will refer you to JPLove's comments on this:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2942958&viewfull=1#post2942958[/URL]
There are a lot of kinds of women and strategies so no way to answer your question. In Okubo Park it was mostly Japanese, so I would not speak English with them. But in other cities I saw many Thai women and they did speak English. If you are just starting out, maybe in this example the thai women are a good start. You cannot expect to leapfrog to the final result without any Japanese ability, but your own experiences will help you again in the future.
This hobby is not beginner friendly, but I have left breadcrumbs on how I did it. My first trip to Japan I had 3 months of Japanese so maybe 90% of shops refused me. But oppai pubs let me in. A later trip I was able to get into fetish clubs, but I spoke more Japanese, was very respectful in manner and appearance, I seemed safe, and clearly was able to follow instructions and not cause trouble. So I cannot just help anyone get in, not everyone should be let in. They were taking a chance on me.
Girls bars also let me in with about 1-2 years Japanese, even though hostess clubs did not. I lucked out with some very cute girls, I still remember some after 20 years. I also got into Hadaka no Ousama of all places, again a fetish club. One advantage of soapland is a place like Kira Kira is relatively foreigner friendly with minimal Japanese. Versus delivery health where in additional to Japanese you need to do some legwork, appointment, and coordination. But again, once you do something the first time it becomes easy future times.
Next, you have to have Japan internet and know some Japanese to see the official sites, since many block foreign IPs. This site lists some of them in English, so these are the sites that support it:
[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/shop-list/[/URL]
This particular list is at least somewhat foreigner friendly, with a lower range of minimum Japanese expected. I can't vouch for any particular shop but some are familiar and this is not too different from the Japanese list. But still limited. I see very few of my favorite shops, or at least I have to scroll very long since there are so many shops and the new ones are probably paying to be first on the list.
There is always a catch with specialty shops. Like the first link now is BBW. They specialize in mega huge tits. If all you really care about is humongous tits and the face and the rest can be just whatever, then sure. There's almost no catch, you'll get it. But most people understand that's her asset and not to expect a lot for the rest. Though there are always minimum standards and girls will at least look decent if not good. Check out their girls photos for an idea. I don't judge, do your thing.
There are other sites that specialize in schoolgirls or cosplay. Usually they will pick girls that suit the outfit and style. But once clothes come off she is probably just a normal petite girl. Nothing wrong with that, I have had some good experiences there but let's be realistic. The shop is upfront about what it specializes in, they are not promising a stunner or super young girl. Though it's possible.
Check out this example, the ad says "teens to 20's" which is kind of sus. But then look at their girls, you need to add another 5-15 years:
[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1317/kiwami_g/[/URL]
I ignore age claims they may be true or clearly made up and off by 10+ years. Maybe what happened is they started out with 20 year olds at first and they all quit for better shops and got replaced. Nobody updated the ad. At least they are upfront with photos.
So for example I have bookmarks on some fetish sites, but have to turn on the VPN to see them. Like:
[URL]https://www.cityheaven.net/tokyo/A1304/A130404/zenra-kakumei/system/[/URL]
Some of my favorite shops have rebranded or closed since covid, like one fetish shop is clearly the same shop with similar concept just completely rebranded and adjusted in concept. Even after 20 years, it's still the same location and 80% the same system. We foreigners just scratch the surface and most people don't post reports, so my overview is just to help you get oriented to do your own adventure. I learned 80% of it myself. You will have to do some of the same.
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Narita
Good day all. I've got an overnight layover in Narita coming up next week and hoping to get some ideas of things to do as I've never been to Japan besides for the airport on short layovers connecting to / from Thailand.
Flight lands around 5 pm and I fly out following day at 10:30 am. Thinking best option for this short of time might be to just book an airport hotel or in an area that's close and get a nice escort over? Priorities would be women and great sushi over travelling around trying to squeeze in some sight seeing.
I'm going to put in some time researching the forum but would appreciate any information / recommendations anyone is willing to share. TIA.
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[QUOTE=Taylor707;2947156]Good day all. I've got an overnight layover in Narita coming up next week and hoping to get some ideas of things to do as I've never been to Japan besides for the airport on short layovers connecting to / from Thailand.
Flight lands around 5 pm and I fly out following day at 10:30 am. Thinking best option for this short of time might be to just book an airport hotel or in an area that's close and get a nice escort over? Priorities would be women and great sushi over travelling around trying to squeeze in some sight seeing.
I'm going to put in some time researching the forum but would appreciate any information / recommendations anyone is willing to share. TIA.[/QUOTE]Depends on the airport. If you are at Narita you can book the Narita express to take you from NRT to Shinjuku, stay there and there will be lots to do in terms of "take out", and delivery to your door would be free. If it's HND, it is a little more tricky (I. E. You need to change trains) to get to Tokyo.
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[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2947181]Depends on the airport. If you are at Narita you can book the Narita express to take you from NRT to Shinjuku, stay there and there will be lots to do in terms of "take out", and delivery to your door would be free. If it's HND, it is a little more tricky (I. E. You need to change trains) to get to Tokyo.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the reply as well as the advice. It is Narita airport I'll be flying in and out of.
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[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2947181]Depends on the airport. If you are at Narita you can book the Narita express to take you from NRT to Shinjuku, stay there and there will be lots to do in terms of "take out", and delivery to your door would be free. If it's HND, it is a little more tricky (I. E. You need to change trains) to get to Tokyo.[/QUOTE]If time is an issue, he could just take a taxi. I usually taxi from either airport. It's really not so bad compared to other major cities pricewise. Sure beats riding on a train, or especially 2 trains IMHO.
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[QUOTE=Taylor707;2947156]Good day all. I've got an overnight layover in Narita coming up next week and hoping to get some ideas of things to do as I've never been to Japan besides for the airport on short layovers connecting to / from Thailand. Flight lands around 5 pm and I fly out following day at 10:30 am. Thinking best option for this short of time might be to just book an airport hotel or in an area that's close and get a nice escort over? Priorities would be women and great sushi over travelling around trying to squeeze in some sight seeing.[/QUOTE]I haven't attempted exactly what you're trying to do (in Japan at least), but here are some thoughts based on my limited experience:
I'm sure it's possible to get an incall escort from a delivery health service -- deriheru -- to a hotel close to the airport, but it could be difficult without Japanese language skills and / or someone recommending a specific service. Unless maybe your hotel concierge can help? There is a town called Narita which has plenty of sushi and ramen places, I just don't know about adult entertainment options. Looking at a map, the closest sizable city looks like Chiba City, which is about 35 minutes from Narita on the Narita Express, the same train you would take if you were going into Tokyo. I googled "soapland chiba Japan" and got several useful results.
Apparently Chiba City has an entertainment district not too far from the train station with around 150 adult businesses, including around 40 soaplands, some of which will accept foreigners. You can look at the google results yourself, they include a map which shows the cluster of soaplands and its proximity to the train station. Of course there are hotels near the train station too -- I noticed an APA Hotel Chiba Station Square on the map. Here are a few of the links which could be helpful:
[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/article/en/2296/[/URL]
[URL]https://bestescortstokyo.com/496/[/URL]
[URL]https://camikaze.cc/area/best-soapland-in-japan/[/URL]#Best_Soapland_in_Chiba.
Just looking on google maps and searching for "sushi" there are many results in the train station area, some of them rated over 4 stars. I'm sure you could find a good one. Ditto ramen or whatever else you might want.
Of course you could skip Chiba City and stay on the Narita Express and ride it all the way into Tokyo, with stops at Tokya Main Station, on the east side of town, and Shibuya / Shinjuku, major entertainment districts. Of course there are a ton of options for fun in Tokyo, but it all might seem overwhelming as a first time visitor, maybe jet-lagged, and on a tight schedule. The schedule would be especially tight if you were going to try to go into Tokyo, have fun, and get back to the Narita area the same night. As opposed to Chiba City, you could spend the night there and just catch the Narita Express back to the airport in the morning or make a shorter trip back to a hotel even closer to Narita.
So, something close to the airport vs Chiba City vs Tokyo, you do have options, it just depends on how much time you're willing to spend on transportation and how much of an adventure you want to have.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2947294]If time is an issue, he could just take a taxi. I usually taxi from either airport. It's really not so bad compared to other major cities pricewise. Sure beats riding on a train, or especially 2 trains IMHO.[/QUOTE]Will cost you $250. Take the Narita Express.
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[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2947181]Depends on the airport. If you are at Narita you can book the Narita express to take you from NRT to Shinjuku, stay there and there will be lots to do in terms of "take out", and delivery to your door would be free. If it's HND, it is a little more tricky (I. E. You need to change trains) to get to Tokyo.[/QUOTE]There are buses that take you straight to the hotel from either airport.
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[QUOTE=Zhuren;2947512]There are buses that take you straight to the hotel from either airport.[/QUOTE]Traffic might be a bit crap depending on the time of day. Personally I prefer the train, especially if you need to be back at the airport for check-in etc.
Will be heading to Japan again next week.
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[QUOTE=Runon99;2947395]I haven't attempted exactly what you're trying to do (in Japan at least), but here are some thoughts based on my limited experience:
I'm sure it's possible to get an incall escort from a delivery health service -- deriheru -- to a hotel close to the airport, but it could be difficult without Japanese language skills and / or someone recommending a specific service. Unless maybe your hotel concierge can help? There is a town called Narita which has plenty of sushi and ramen places, I just don't know about adult entertainment options. Looking at a map, the closest sizable city looks like Chiba City, which is about 35 minutes from Narita on the Narita Express, the same train you would take if you were going into Tokyo. I googled "soapland chiba Japan" and got several useful results.
Apparently Chiba City has an entertainment district not too far from the train station with around 150 adult businesses, including around 40 soaplands, some of which will accept foreigners. You can look at the google results yourself, they include a map which shows the cluster of soaplands and its proximity to the train station. Of course there are hotels near the train station too -- I noticed an APA Hotel Chiba Station Square on the map. Here are a few of the links which could be helpful:
[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/article/en/2296/[/URL]
[URL]https://bestescortstokyo.com/496/[/URL]
[URL]https://camikaze.cc/area/best-soapland-in-japan/[/URL]#Best_Soapland_in_Chiba.
Just looking on google maps and searching for "sushi" there are many results in the train station area, some of them rated over 4 stars. I'm sure you could find a good one. Ditto ramen or whatever else you might want.
Of course you could skip Chiba City and stay on the Narita Express and ride it all the way into Tokyo, with stops at Tokya Main Station, on the east side of town, and Shibuya / Shinjuku, major entertainment districts. Of course there are a ton of options for fun in Tokyo, but it all might seem overwhelming as a first time visitor, maybe jet-lagged, and on a tight schedule. The schedule would be especially tight if you were going to try to go into Tokyo, have fun, and get back to the Narita area the same night. As opposed to Chiba City, you could spend the night there and just catch the Narita Express back to the airport in the morning or make a shorter trip back to a hotel even closer to Narita.
So, something close to the airport vs Chiba City vs Tokyo, you do have options, it just depends on how much time you're willing to spend on transportation and how much of an adventure you want to have.[/QUOTE]Very informative and helpful. Thank you very much!
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Tokyo Questions
Okay I'm a senior member and know enough to read the threads before asking questions. I admit Japan is a little more confusing then the rest of SE Asia Think I have basics.
Understand the soaplands. Also understand foreigner bias and sticking to foreigner friendly venues. Which really means for me some soaplands, some delivery, and street girls -- aka tachinbo.
Couple questions:
1. Are most hotels in Shinjuko near Kabuchicho girl friendly if register for two people? What hotels in this area are recommended? JP gave me his on recent trip (granbell) but its booked. Needs to be a decent nice hotel; not a love hotel shithole.
2. From looking at videos of tachinbo (I'm assuming they're in Kabuchicho in videos), some of these girls seem pretty hot. I can see myself partaking. My questions:
A. Many seem to have men standing nearby. Look like middlemen. Is that the norm for street hookers? Are these guys okay to deal with? I doubt I'd have a lot of tolerance dealing with them. What's procedure for negotiation?
Be. Is it like Brazil where you have to be very specific about services upfront, or Thailand where you just agree price, bring them to hotel and they're pretty much up for anything (maybe with a little more cash)?
3. Delivery Services. I'm still a little confused about "foreigner and English friendly". From reading forum I know TokyoHentai is a +. What others in Tokyo are recommended as far as ease making appt in english or on web, and foreigner friendly girls with decent selection?
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[QUOTE=Taylor707;2947558]Very informative and helpful. Thank you very much![/QUOTE]No problem. One thing, I might have overstated the difficulty of finding an escort to visit a Narita area hotel. It stands to reason that there must be enough male travelers staying near Narita for there to be a market niche. Just google "escort narita Japan" for example and you will see some options.
Are they good options? No idea. The number and quality of options should be higher as the location gets bigger. So, Tokyo over Chiba City over Narita. I should point out that I don't get a commission from the Chiba City Chamber of Commerce if you choose to go there. It just seems like a good logistical compromise. But there is a serious risk that the soapland or escort experience in Chiba City could turn out to be a dud. That could happen in Tokyo too, of course. But Tokyo has many more options for foreigners and first-time visitors.
Anyway, whatever you end up doing, please report your experiences (including the sushi meal) back here.
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[QUOTE=Runon99;2947633]No problem. One thing, I might have overstated the difficulty of finding an escort to visit a Narita area hotel. It stands to reason that there must be enough male travelers staying near Narita for there to be a market niche. Just google "escort narita Japan" for example and you will see some options.
Are they good options? No idea. The number and quality of options should be higher as the location gets bigger. So, Tokyo over Chiba City over Narita. I should point out that I don't get a commission from the Chiba City Chamber of Commerce if you choose to go there. It just seems like a good logistical compromise. But there is a serious risk that the soapland or escort experience in Chiba City could turn out to be a dud. That could happen in Tokyo too, of course. But Tokyo has many more options for foreigners and first-time visitors.
Anyway, whatever you end up doing, please report your experiences (including the sushi meal) back here.[/QUOTE]Appreciate it and I understand that these things are very much a YMMV type situation unless there's a specific escort that constantly gets great reviews from well known board members. Even then you might catch her on an off day but still much better chance percentage wise.
After doing some research here as well as looking into some of the recommendations posted, it appears to be more expensive for full service there than when I'm in Vancouver with well reviewed foreigner friendly Japanese girls. Might just put my focus on a good meal and waiting the extra half day before I'm back in Thailand getting drained for a fraction of the price. I can certainly afford it but it's just hard to justify when I spend 6 months of the year in Thailand. Might save play time in Japan for when I do a proper extended trip there. Thanks again to all that have tried to help and I'll certainly report back anything worthwhile I might experience there.
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[QUOTE=Taylor707;2947864]Appreciate it and I understand that these things are very much a YMMV type situation unless there's a specific escort that constantly gets great reviews from well known board members. Even then you might catch her on an off day but still much better chance percentage wise.
After doing some research here as well as looking into some of the recommendations posted, it appears to be more expensive for full service there than when I'm in Vancouver with well reviewed foreigner friendly Japanese girls. Might just put my focus on a good meal and waiting the extra half day before I'm back in Thailand getting drained for a fraction of the price. I can certainly afford it but it's just hard to justify when I spend 6 months of the year in Thailand. Might save play time in Japan for when I do a proper extended trip there. Thanks again to all that have tried to help and I'll certainly report back anything worthwhile I might experience there.[/QUOTE]Vancouver? I did not know this was an option. I will be there in a month or two. Any recommendations?
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[QUOTE=CDelta011;2947866]Vancouver? I did not know this was an option. I will be there in a month or two. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]There's plenty of options (independent and agencies) and info on a Canadian forum with specific cities. Don't think I can mention it here and looks like I can't send you a dm / pm.
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Layover in Narita or Haneda
Plenty of time to take a bus ride to Shinjuku for all sorts of exciting entertainment, restaurants, bars, clubs.
The Tokyu Express bus picks up right outside the terminal every 10-15 minutes, arrives at Shinjuku Kabukicho Tower in about 1.5 hours. Return to the airport the same way.
Plenty of hotels within couple hundred feet, APA Kabukicho, Premier Cabin, ect. Also couple dozens less-known hotels rent by the hour or all night. A sauna / health club lets clients stay all night for $20.
Lots of good restaurants, AYCE Wagyu beef, sea food, ramen ect, good, delicious and surprisingly cheap. I really like the 24/7 Yakitory near the cinema and K Tower, delish $1 brochettes of meats and seafood grilled over charcoal, down with beers while ogling their very cute student waitresses.
Hentai and Soapland branches are within walking distances of Kabukicho Tower. Look them up.
A few hot street girls hang around Okubo hospital. Not sure if they are still there. Homeless teenagers hangout, play games at the plaza in front of the K Tower.
Subtracting 3 hours bus rides from and to the airport, you still have 14 hours for sensory overload in exotic Shinjuku. Haneda is only half hour bus ride from Shinjuku.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2948069]Plenty of time to take a bus ride to Shinjuku for all sorts of exciting entertainment, restaurants, bars, clubs.
The Tokyu Express bus picks up right outside the terminal every 10-15 minutes, arrives at Shinjuku Kabukicho Tower in about 1.5 hours. Return to the airport the same way.
Plenty of hotels within couple hundred feet, APA Kabukicho, Premier Cabin, ect. Also couple dozens less-known hotels rent by the hour or all night. A sauna / health club lets clients stay all night for $20.
Lots of good restaurants, AYCE Wagyu beef, sea food, ramen ect, good, delicious and surprisingly cheap. I really like the 24/7 Yakitory near the cinema and K Tower, delish $1 brochettes of meats and seafood grilled over charcoal, down with beers while ogling their very cute student waitresses.
Hentai and Soapland branches are within walking distances of Kabukicho Tower. Look them up.
A few hot street girls hang around Okubo hospital. Not sure if they are still there. Homeless teenagers hangout, play games at the plaza in front of the K Tower.
Subtracting 3 hours bus rides from and to the airport, you still have 14 hours for sensory overload in exotic Shinjuku. Haneda is only half hour bus ride from Shinjuku.[/QUOTE]Thanks and awesome intel Captain! A better flight actually came up today with my miles program, so I won't be doing the overnight layover now. Just a quick connection through Taipei.
I hope all the intel everyone has provided will help others and maybe still me on future connections. Thanks again to everyone that tried to help and let me buy you a drink or 3 if you're ever in Thailand.
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Oh No!
[QUOTE=Taylor707;2948173]A better flight actually came up today with my miles program, so I won't be doing the overnight layover now. Just a quick connection through Taipei.[/QUOTE]I already got in touch with the mayor of Chiba City, he is planning to give you an official greeting at the JR station and then a ride to the soapland district. Oh well.
I have Taipei airport advice too, though. Try the beef noodle soup.
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[QUOTE=Runon99;2948182]I already got in touch with the mayor of Chiba City, he is planning to give you an official greeting at the JR station and then a ride to the soapland district. Oh well.
I have Taipei airport advice too, though. Try the beef noodle soup.[/QUOTE]Since I live in Taipei, I can confirm we also have the mayor of New Taipei City waiting at the airport to give people a ride to our local district as well.
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[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2948189]Since I live in Taipei, I can confirm we also have the mayor of New Taipei City waiting at the airport to give people a ride to our local district as well.[/QUOTE]Is he waiting at the Songshan aiport? You might need to find the mayor of Taoyuan.
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Wow, you're hilarious!
[QUOTE=Runon99;2948182]I already got in touch with the mayor of Chiba City, he is planning to give you an official greeting at the JR station and then a ride to the soapland district. Oh well.
I have Taipei airport advice too, though. Try the beef noodle soup.[/QUOTE]Sorry if your feathers got ruffled because my flight changed? Sad.
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[QUOTE=Taylor707;2948362]Sorry if your feathers got ruffled because my flight changed? Sad.[/QUOTE]I think we have a case of lost in internet translation. My feathers aren't ruffled at all, but I can see how it could have looked otherwise, so my apologies for that.
Zero offense was taken or meant on my part. You've already thanked me multiple times, so as far as I'm concerned, case closed.
The beef noodle soup recommendation wasn't a joke. I've been to Taiwan several times, it's a specialty there. The airport version might not be the best, but it was good enough for me.
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Eurogirlsescort girl. Real / legit? Advice appreciated. First time with escort
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/pearl/776852/?list=lwoazh[/URL]
Anyone know if this website or girl are legit?
Found this ultra hot tight 10/10 Cuban chick in Tokyo. And I'm wondering if it's too good to be true.
I ran into some AI-picture generated scams from other escorts before.
This will be my first time with an escort. Anyone have tips on how to make sure this is not a fake, AI-generated photos, or bait and switch, or worst of all a robbery?
Should I just contact her and ask for verification through FaceTime or something? I'm super new to this.
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[QUOTE=AsapRocky;2948908][URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/pearl/776852/?list=lwoazh[/URL]
Anyone know if this website or girl are legit?[/QUOTE]It's just another review site like ISG. You have to sort out what is real from what isn't.
I personally stick to agencies in Japan since it's legal and easy and you have someone to go to if there's a problem.
But there are some agency chicks listed on Euro Girl Escort.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2949102]It's just another review site like ISG. You have to sort out what is real from what isn't.
I personally stick to agencies in Japan since it's legal and easy and you have someone to go to if there's a problem.
But there are some agency chicks listed on Euro Girl Escort.[/QUOTE]This girl is verified. And has independent tag so guess she doesn't have an agency.
If a girl is that hot like she is, is it likely a fake? It's insane how 10/10 she is it's almost like it's generated by AI.
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Re: Eurogirlsescort girl. Real / legit? Advice appreciated. First time with escort
[QUOTE=AsapRocky;2948908][URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/pearl/776852/?list=lwoazh[/URL]
Anyone know if this website or girl are legit?
[/QUOTE]The site itself is legit, but some / many listings are bait and switch.
Your girl is expensive for Japan. 500 USD = 70,000 JPY. Good Tokyo agencies (search this forum) charge 30 k JPY.
Photo looks ok to me, not too good to be true. Do a reverse image search on her pix.
But listed at 25 yo, I'd expect her to look somewhat older in person. In Columbia or Cuba, a 25 yo WG who looks like this would probably charge 200 USD. Might be an experienced pro touring in Japan. Some experienced independent escorts give good service; others are awful. Without reviews, or an agency for "quality control," and at a $500 price, this would be too risky for me.
My advice to a first timer would be (1) go with an agency that serves foreigners and is recommended by this forum (2) don't get too focused on any one girl based on photos. Manage your budget, time and energy so you can session with many different girls. That's your best bet to have a great experience.
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[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2949129]The site itself is legit, but some / many listings are bait and switch.
Your girl is expensive for Japan. 500 USD = 70,000 JPY. Good Tokyo agencies (search this forum) charge 30 k JPY.
Photo looks ok to me, not too good to be true. Do a reverse image search on her pix.
But listed at 25 yo, I'd expect her to look somewhat older in person. In Columbia or Cuba, a 25 yo WG who looks like this would probably charge 200 USD. Might be an experienced pro touring in Japan. Some experienced independent escorts give good service; others are awful. Without reviews, or an agency for "quality control," and at a $500 price, this would be too risky for me.
My advice to a first timer would be (1) go with an agency that serves foreigners and is recommended by this forum (2) don't get too focused on any one girl based on photos. Manage your budget, time and energy so you can session with many different girls. That's your best bet to have a great experience.[/QUOTE]I'm fine with the price because she looks someone that I had a crush on. Would satisfy my fantasy. After this I'm open to other cheaper girls.
Any tips to verify legitimacy and make sure it's not bait and switch or pics stolen from somewhere else? Google searching the image returns nothing. She also looks way too perfect so I'm skeptical.
I plan on messaging her on telegram and asking her for verification videos with a name and date written on a sheet of paper. But any tips on messaging her? Because when I messaged a few other escorts they didn't respond.
When I reported another girl for stealing pics (she also had a verified tag), eurogirlsescort removed her verified tag, and she did not re-verify by sending updated pics to eurogirlsescort. She put up new pics with a much older version and heavier version of herself. So I suspect those old pics were either AI generated or stolen from models.
Now I'm cautious that this Pearl girl is the same thing. Her pics look less AI generated than the other girl.
So do I just have to take the risk here?
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[QUOTE=AsapRocky;2949146]
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So do I just have to take the risk here?[/QUOTE]Contact her and ask something like this:
Is it really you in the photos?
When were the photos taken?
How old are you?
Are your breasts natural?
How tall are you?
Confirm that sex is included. Her ad only says 69.
Then have her come to your hotel, meet her in the lobby and if it's bait and switch, you just send her away.
Or go to her, which is 150 cheaper, and leave if the ad was fake.
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[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2949336]Contact her and ask something like this:
Is it really you in the photos?
When were the photos taken?
How old are you?
Are your breasts natural?
How tall are you?
Confirm that sex is included. Her ad only says 69.
Then have her come to your hotel, meet her in the lobby and if it's bait and switch, you just send her away.
Or go to her, which is 150 cheaper, and leave if the ad was fake.[/QUOTE]Alright thanks for the advice.
How far advance can I book a time usually? A month? Or a week?
I do find it suspicious how the girls (independent girls especially) on eurogirlsescort are much much hotter than Tokyo girls from an agency.
Especially a girl like Pearl who is perfect and has absolutely 0 reviews. Girl like that would have people coming to her in an instant so it's extremely suspicious she doesn't have reviews.
I wonder if I should contact the eurogirlsdscort customer service with my concerns.
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Kira Kira in Yokohama. Still good, but with new foreigner tax
I had a chance recently to visit Kira Kira again for the first time in quite a while. Just a few observations as a non-Japanese speaking foreigner. This was my 4th visit to Kira Kira over the past year.
First. They have recently instituted a foreigner tax of 5000 yen. Foreigners are also unable to choose the 50 minute option, so your most basic option is the 31,000 70 minute option.
Second. As part of this, they seem to have gotten more foreigner-friendly, but also cautious. The host spoke English (a first), and I was handed a long page of rules in multiple languages and asked to sign the bottom. I've never had to do this at Kira Kira before, but I have with some of the higher-end delivery health services.
I was presented with three options, as a walk-in on a weekday afternoon. One of them was clearly recommended by the host, and I have learned through experience to trust their recommendations. Japan is perhaps the only country in the world where I believe they are making genuine recommendations! So I went with Miyuku ("Milk") who was recommended, and I was not disappointed. First, she spoke some English. Another first for me at Kira Kira. Although of course no German or French: the. Second, she was very sweet, very short, with for me a near perfect body and a fine GND face.
I am anxious to try to find some more gaijin-friendly soaps in the Kira Kira price range in greater Tokyo, and it is hard for those of us who are utter gentlemen but don't speak Japanese, so I will keep watching the forum and sharing recommendations as I find them.
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[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2949336]Contact her and ask something like this:
Is it really you in the photos?
When were the photos taken?
How old are you?
Are your breasts natural?
How tall are you?
Confirm that sex is included. Her ad only says 69.
Then have her come to your hotel, meet her in the lobby and if it's bait and switch, you just send her away.
Or go to her, which is 150 cheaper, and leave if the ad was fake.[/QUOTE]I just asked her for verification pics on Telegram.
She saw the message but did not respond. Now thinking it's a fake. Or maybe she's busy with too many clients and can't be bothered to respond to everyone?
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[QUOTE=AsapRocky;2949392]Alright thanks for the advice.
How far advance can I book a time usually? A month? Or a week?
I do find it suspicious how the girls (independent girls especially) on eurogirlsescort are much much hotter than Tokyo girls from an agency.
Especially a girl like Pearl who is perfect and has absolutely 0 reviews. Girl like that would have people coming to her in an instant so it's extremely suspicious she doesn't have reviews.
I wonder if I should contact the eurogirlsdscort customer service with my concerns.[/QUOTE]Book the same day or the next day, at most.
Eurogirl photos might have more filters and photoshop compared to Tokyo agencies.
Check out eurogirl photos for Colombia. Or screen for "Latin" under "Eth / Nat," then price > 301 per hour under "Rates". Not to be rude, but I don't see anything exceptional in your listing given her price.
Even if she's real, she's got no time for verification pix. She might be your first, but for her you're just one of dozens of guys. "Hey, are you free tonight?" -- yes. Can I come at 7pm? -- yes. Is it really you in the photos and are your breasts natural, and are you really 25? yes and yes. Then you just gotta take a leap and go there. Expect her to look worse than photos, obviously, but not much worse.
Don't bring more cash then you need (maybe an extra $50). Don't bring valuables. When she opens the door, take a good look. Be careful if she is in some dim lit or red light space -- that's to prevent you from getting a good look, so you'd come in even if she's 20 years older than stated or bait and switch.
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[QUOTE=Hhs04;2949527]I had a chance recently to visit Kira Kira again for the first time in quite a while. Just a few observations as a non-Japanese speaking foreigner. This was my 4th visit to Kira Kira over the past year.
First. They have recently instituted a foreigner tax of 5000 yen. Foreigners are also unable to choose the 50 minute option, so your most basic option is the 31,000 70 minute option.
Second. As part of this, they seem to have gotten more foreigner-friendly, but also cautious. The host spoke English (a first), and I was handed a long page of rules in multiple languages and asked to sign the bottom. I've never had to do this at Kira Kira before, but I have with some of the higher-end delivery health services.
[/QUOTE]Excellent intel. I last went Kira Kira in July and there was no foreigner tax, so this is new. I have only signed a rulesheet my first visit a previous year. All the rules are common sense but important. When they ask if it's your first time, I say no I've been here before so they skip that. Perhaps they thought it was your first time on your 2nd visit, just a guess.
The questions I get asked is "Yoyaku?" meaning reservation? In my case no. "Hajimete. " meaning first timer? No. Then some variant of dochira or dono kuni asking what country I'm from. I say America kara. The last question is about "jikan" as in 50 or 70 minutes. They may bring you to the waiting room and you may be the only guy or other guys might be there. You get a number chip so the staff knows your "order". You hang out there, browse your phone, etc. They may suggest you use the restroom "otearai" or "toiletto" which I recommend. There are also drinks I remember. If they let you choose, I would recommend 70 minutes in any case unless you are good at pacing.
Kira Kira is very budget friendly. At the extreme there are some high end soaps in Tokyo 8 times more expensive, usually promising JAV stars (but making it impossible to book them). This makes it a good starter soap so you can try it out, get to know the system, and decide if you want more. It is just my experience but I always had a good time, the girls were nice and took care of me. I am not expecting a stunner but they were cute enough for fun. I'm expecting a lady in her 30's who looks decent and is open to every play.
Kira Kira is kind of easy mode since it is a decent price and lacks problems and confusion that I've run into at other random shops. Some girls are experienced, others very new. So hopefully recommendations are based on that and reviews. I was actually asked if I could fill out a survey on the girl after my first visit.
Let's say you move on and find another shop and are trying to figure it out. For beginners, I think it's important to pace things properly no matter where you go so you "hit your milestones" instead of running low on time. Know when to take over and make requests, don't be shy you can just gesture with your hand about BBBJ or use a phone translator if you must. My hand gesture cannot be mistaken for anything else, but better to ask for "fera onegaishimasu". Over on TAG I replied to someone who had 70 minutes but used it all on nuru and got a 1 minute HJ to finish, that's what happens if you never take over or ask for sex. I'm sure many guys have a good time letting the girl decide everything but my advice is to direct the action and skip play that you aren't interested in. I can get 2-shots with BBBJ both times if I want, or 1-shot and just cuddle and chat. You are paying for time and within reason you get to direct the action.
Other than hygene, there is no real set course or order of things even if the shops lay one out. So washing and brushing you should participate in but if you vibe with the girl and are clean it's never been an issue. Like most girls I could LFK briefly and play a bit before we got to washing. And I got multiple BBBJ on the mat and bath with kissing before brushing our teeth. I think normally girls would make you brush before then, I was a bit confused but I show up super clean to begin with so she didn't care. Btw there is a blog camikaze that gives good info on your first time visit, and lists many great resources including ISG here.
You may know what you like, so focus on that. There is a special "stool", sit on it and be brave. No spoilers here, be brave. I asked for the mat play and gel but I don't want to use a lot of time there so maybe 10 minutes max. I like the feel of running my hands all over her tits, ass, and parts with the gel. She doing the same with me. Fun times. But there are other things to do and I like a bath with a girl so we went to the standalone bathtub next. She got me into quite a position to suck me off in the bath, I was ass up. Would recommend! Then back to bed for how normal people do things. You are paying for time, if something isn't doing it for you politely suggest the next activity. I vibe well with girls and in my experience, they are happy to make me happy.
When visiting girls, the first few minutes is important to break the ice and get her comfortable and feeling good with you. I've gotten good at this over the years (I speak no Korean but have done it a hundred times with kgirls), so it's not a language issue. Keep it playful and focus on enjoying what's good about her. Read body language and communicate with body language.
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[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2949720]Book the same day or the next day, at most.
Eurogirl photos might have more filters and photoshop compared to Tokyo agencies.
Check out eurogirl photos for Colombia. Or screen for "Latin" under "Eth / Nat," then price > 301 per hour under "Rates". Not to be rude, but I don't see anything exceptional in your listing given her price.
Even if she's real, she's got no time for verification pix. She might be your first, but for her you're just one of dozens of guys. "Hey, are you free tonight?" -- yes. Can I come at 7pm? -- yes. Is it really you in the photos and are your breasts natural, and are you really 25? yes and yes. Then you just gotta take a leap and go there. Expect her to look worse than photos, obviously, but not much worse.
Don't bring more cash then you need (maybe an extra $50). Don't bring valuables. When she opens the door, take a good look. Be careful if she is in some dim lit or red light space -- that's to prevent you from getting a good look, so you'd come in even if she's 20 years older than stated or bait and switch.[/QUOTE]Tokyo is pretty safe as far as crime / robbery right? As long as I don't tell her the hotel room number (just tell her the lobby) I should be safe from gangs / pimps? She's an independent escort so not sure what to expect.
I checked out other Colombian girls and their photos look much more edited and filtered. The pics Pearl use looks much less edited and filtered. And her skin looks insanely soft and smooth. Her face looks perfect and her body is super super tight yet curvy. It's just hard to find an escort with that level of perfection where I am from. She looks more like a model or one of my high school crush than an escort.
She's not my first but I haven't had action in a long while.
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[QUOTE=AsapRocky;2948908][URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/pearl/776852/?list=lwoazh[/URL]
Anyone know if this website or girl are legit?
Found this ultra hot tight 10/10 Cuban chick in Tokyo. And I'm wondering if it's too good to be true.
This will be my first time with an escort. Anyone have tips on how to make sure this is not a fake, AI-generated photos, or bait and switch, or worst of all a robbery?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AsapRocky;2949757]Tokyo is pretty safe as far as crime / robbery right? As long as I don't tell her the hotel room number (just tell her the lobby) I should be safe from gangs / pimps? She's an independent escort so not sure what to expect.[/QUOTE]Tokyo is pretty safe in the sense that it's unlikely that you're going to lose any vital organs, not so safe that you couldn't be scammed.
None of us answering your questions really knows if she's legit or not. My gut instinct is that the pictures look too good to be true. Her listing description says nothing about Japan. Her listing also says that she will travel countrywide. Really? She'll travel from Tokyo to Fukuoka? To Sapporo? Sounds like a load of crap to me, but what do I know.
If she still hasn't replied to your message asking for verification, then you probably already have your answer, just forget about it and move on.
If you're in Tokyo and you want an escort, you have a lot of local options.
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[QUOTE=Runon99;2950161]Tokyo is pretty safe in the sense that it's unlikely that you're going to lose any vital organs, not so safe that you couldn't be scammed.
None of us answering your questions really knows if she's legit or not. My gut instinct is that the pictures look too good to be true. Her listing description says nothing about Japan. Her listing also says that she will travel countrywide. Really? She'll travel from Tokyo to Fukuoka? To Sapporo? Sounds like a load of crap to me, but what do I know.
If she still hasn't replied to your message asking for verification, then you probably already have your answer, just forget about it and move on.
If you're in Tokyo and you want an escort, you have a lot of local options.[/QUOTE]Yes that's exactly what I was thinking too. Pics look way way way too good to be true. She looks more like a world model than an escort; maybe it's AI generated pics. How can she be so perfect? It's so rare to see an escort like that.
Now I can't trust verified girls from Eurogirlsescort, since some fakes still have a verified tag. Now, I notice another thing: independent girls are much much hotter than agency girls. I wonder if majority of independent girls are mostly fakes / scams. That would be unfortunate because I find them much much hotter so I may have to settle for agency girls.
Probably time to move on to another escort, maybe Melo but of course I have to message to see if legit [URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/mello/435687/?list=hpm0i5[/URL].
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[QUOTE=Runon99;2950161]Tokyo is pretty safe in the sense that it's unlikely that you're going to lose any vital organs, not so safe that you couldn't be scammed.
None of us answering your questions really knows if she's legit or not. My gut instinct is that the pictures look too good to be true. Her listing description says nothing about Japan. Her listing also says that she will travel countrywide. Really? She'll travel from Tokyo to Fukuoka? To Sapporo? Sounds like a load of crap to me, but what do I know.
If she still hasn't replied to your message asking for verification, then you probably already have your answer, just forget about it and move on.
If you're in Tokyo and you want an escort, you have a lot of local options.[/QUOTE]I also found Pearl on 2 other sites with verified tag.
[URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-tokyo/pearl-other-mixed-cuban[/URL]
[URL]https://ondate.com/female-escorts/435679/pearl[/URL]
Not sure what to make of it because like I said the independent escorts are always much hotter than the agency girls so it feels like too good to be true.
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[QUOTE=AsapRocky;2950183]I also found Pearl on 2 other sites with verified tag.
[URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-tokyo/pearl-other-mixed-cuban[/URL]
[URL]https://ondate.com/female-escorts/435679/pearl[/URL]
Not sure what to make of it because like I said the independent escorts are always much hotter than the agency girls so it feels like too good to be true.[/QUOTE]She has another profile in Singapore. I think it's almost 90% confirmed fake at this point. How can you be in both Tokyo and Singapore? Or did she forget to remove a posting? Idk. Another profile in Israel.
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/pearl/776865/?list=v52qfh[/URL]
[URL]https://ondate.com/female-escorts/435677/pearl[/URL]
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[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2947617]1. Are most hotels in Shinjuko near Kabuchicho girl friendly if register for two people? What hotels in this area are recommended? JP gave me his on recent trip (granbell) but its booked. Needs to be a decent nice hotel; not a love hotel shithole.
2. From looking at videos of tachinbo (I'm assuming they're in Kabuchicho in videos), some of these girls seem pretty hot. I can see myself partaking. My questions:
A. Many seem to have men standing nearby. Look like middlemen. Is that the norm for street hookers? Are these guys okay to deal with? I doubt I'd have a lot of tolerance dealing with them. What's procedure for negotiation?[/QUOTE]The Kabukicho tachinbos are mainly Japanese. You'll want to speak Japanese or hopefully there are a few non-Japanese you can talk to. There are certainly newhalf ones too, they don't hide it. The newhalf ones have middlemen, but most tachnibos do not. If you see men talking to them, most are actually lookie-loos. Non-paying "window shopper" guys who just want to talk to prostitutes for free. The girls won't even look or react to most guys for that reason. So get to the point if you are serious.
I have only seen foreigner tachinbos in less frequented areas near love hotels. Rather than downtowns like Shinjuku or Yokohama, I saw them in random places like Koganecho of Yokohama. My guess is there are police patrols in Shinjuku and Yokohama, whereas nobody patrols a backwater spot like Koganecho. Foreign women are going to be harassed by police for foreigner card / passport visa, so they tend to avoid busy areas. But I see 8 Thai women standing around in front of a Love Hotel, not hard to figure out. Just talking with them I soon confirm they are dtf.
Officially, most hotels will not let you bring a girl if you book a single. But you can often sneak a girl in anyways if you are with her. You just won't be able to get delivery health. I have seen a whole spectrum of hotels ranging from "we don't care or check much just don't let us catch you" to "we will hold onto your key for you whenever you step out like your mom - ask for it back when you return". In the latter case, it was in Roppongi and you had to walk past the lobby to even get to the room elevators. You had to ask for your key back every time, crazy. But it was an awesome hotel right next to the clubs so I put up with it. But even with that set up, I snuck a girl up twice! It's story time.
I met a Filipino girl in Roppongi who was DTF and I asked for my key from the front desk. She was clearly a girl ready to fuck. The guy said in English "Sir, no guests allowed". I said "Oh, I just want to show her the view a few minutes" and he couldn't hold back his huge smirk and just gave me the key. Such was my boldness with a straight face. We entered the elevator and as soon as the doors close the Filipino girl said in embarrassment "He knows!" And yes, we did bang after showing her the wonderful view. Even got in the tiny shower with her. Fortune favors the bold.
She was one of the rare times I picked up a girl without even intending to. I flirted with her at an internet cafe while she was putting on makeup - back then there were no cubicles or dividers.
It was hot, we fucked and fucked. Then after I told her how wonderful she was. When it was time for me to kick her out, she asked if I could give her "um.some taxi money". Oh I get it, cool. Fair enough too I have plenty of money so why not take care of a girl who was so nice to me. I would have gladly paid her from the start anyway, I don't like to take anything for free.
So I have to say that was my first night in Japan after a long flight and I was super jet lagged and confused. I saw I had a 10000 yen bill but also three 1000 bills. In my jet lag confusion I thought 3000 yen was better so offered it to her. But then noticed her glancing at the other bill. I gave her the 10000 bill in the end. Got her number to call her up again later in the week.
A whole hour later, I went down to the lobby and handed the key back, saying "She liked the view".
After that I was off to Roppongi. That was the first time in life I simply picked up a girl, so I wanted to see if I could repeat the magic at the clubs next.
So getting confused or sick from jet lag on my first night out wsa a recurring theme. But I often landed on a Friday and did not want it to go to waste (Friday and Saturday are best nights for Roppongi). So on another trip I picked up yet another girl the first night without even trying. I just talked to a lot of people, men and women, until I started talking to her. She was so cute and amazing, 22 and just my type.
I think the reason we hit it off was she was from North Korea (which blew my mind) but somehow also spoke Chinese (which isn't common but not exactly rare along the border regions). I could speak enough Chinese to talk with her, and after half an hour I invited her to a cafe since it was cold. But I was so jet lagged and I had two rum and cokes which were killing me - I wanted to sleep but also stay awake at the same time, plus nausea from sleep deprivation due to not sleeping on the flight since I was so excited.
Finally I was feeling more and more sick so I apologized to her, I told her she is wonderful and I know we had just agreed to go hang out at my hotel, but it's my bad we can't do it now. I was speaking in broken Chinese and confused by jet lag, so it took me a couple tries to explain it. I mean she was ready to go to my hotel next door and was confused, asking why not. She was dtf, I saw the signs. But I told her I didn't mean to waste her time and I gave her what I would have gifted her anyways. She was pretty surprised. Never saw her again.
I was so ready to take her but knew I was about to throw up. I made it back to my hotel room in time to do just that. Don't mix caffeine and alcohol with jet lag and sleep deprivation. First time wanting to fall asleep, throw up, and be awake from caffeine at the same time. It's been 20 years and I still am careful about that, it was that awful a feeling. Plus I missed out on North Korean pussy.
I know Shibuya is supposed to be the goto pickup spot, but Friday / Saturday nights in Roppongi I was lucky without even trying. I wasn't even trying to pick up these girls, I ended up meeting 3 over the course of 3 trips before moving on to oppai clubs instead of Roppongi. The 3rd girl I actually met at a club in Roppongi. I never forget while dancing against me her, her tits sliding up and down my chest. She was Vietnamese, on a legit Visa to work in Japan (as hotel front desk staff). She enjoyed the view too. The front desk guy didn't even look me in the eye this time.
So I guess to answer your question, I have had better luck meeting girls in Roppongi than SWs. Mainly on account that among the Thai girls I saw, all of them were older than me at the time. Kind of frustrating but I had to pass. Not so with the 3 Roppongi girls who were early 20s and cute. All my life until then, even mediocre American women rejected me. But here in Japan civilian girls of all types were dtf upon meeting me. Close to top tier girls somehow, I couldn't believe it at first. Japanese, Vietnamese, even North Korean. Not Chinese strangely. Had plenty of dates with Japanese girls despite being just a tourist. Not to mention all the shops I've written about. So you can see exactly why I flew to Japan no less than 20 times. Fucking paradise for a guy like me.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666&viewfull=1#post2946666[/URL]
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Okubo park article
Someone else just found out that there's this place called Kabukicho where women actually prostitute themselves. They wrote a whole article about it:
[URL]https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2024/10/06/japan/society/japan-sex-tourism/[/URL]
Articles like these are often embellished with rumor and exaggeration. I recognize many of the sources of the article and it is all too easy to fill in the blanks with whatever you want to finish an article.
"At Okubo Park, there are no pimps just men, including foreign nationals, looking for paid sex and young women there to give it. By 8 pm, there were around 30 women waiting to be called on. ".
This is true enough. There are some daily livestreams showing the lineup. Like with all things there are peak and busy times. Keep in mind youtube, tiktok, etc. Will play things up for shock value. Half the videos I've seen aren't even of prostitutes but claiming them to be. Simply reading the sign the girls are holding in Japanese would show they were advertising for a no touch girls bar. Totally different. But it gets the clicks.
"In the past, Japanese men used to be criticized for going to Southeast Asia for sex. Now, it appears to be the other way around, with foreign tourists and residents flocking to the area, fueled by a weak yen, robust inbound tourism and social media posts. ".
This is a shifting trend for sure, but to be clear 95%-98% of business is still Japanese locals obviously. This is not Thailand. In the same way, some Japanese women go abroad to neighboring countries to work. Asia, Austrlia, Canada, US, etc.
"Foreign tourists at times come in groups accompanied by an interpreter to help them negotiate. Some girls prefer foreign nationals, fearing that Japanese customers may turn out to be undercover police officers. ".
Certainly this happens but it is not the norm. The author is conflating Okubo park with other places staffed by foreign SWs, who do prefer foreigners and interact with them more often. And most approaches by foreigners are not going to involve a translator, though I have done just that when I was young. It's not common.
"The reality is that Japan has become a country where foreign men can obtain young women and essentially buy sexual services.
Most people understand this is an unusual outlier. We're talking a street in a district of a city where this happens. It is not the norm nor do people consider that to represent Japan. What is more well known is Japanese women at corgs around the world who may pleasure you on the clock including bb upcharge. It's everywhere now. I'll look up a girl I like and they make quite the tours around the world.
"The average price per session is around 20,000, but this can be lowered to 15,000 if business is slow. ".
Wow, thanks for the tip. Sounds about right.
"A Japan Times reporter on assignment witnessed several sex workers going straight to host clubs after working on the street and then heading back to the park again to earn more cash after the clubs closed at around 1 am ".
Good on them for doing personal research. They now know as much as I knew 20 years ago. Anyone with eyes can learn this information. This is a reminder not to take these articles too seriously, they are trying to give the facts with research but are not experts on this.
"Sex workers face many dangers, including physical violence, extortion and sexually transmitted diseases. ".
These are real risks, but not the norm. It's true it is hard to report violence in this work but anyone caught doing it should be punished.
"A friend was physically beaten by a foreign customer, who demanded she return half of the money he paid because he could not reach orgasm. Since her friend didn't want to risk being arrested, she called Miya for help instead. When they ran away from the man, he kicked Miya in the back and chased them, refusing to stop until Miya's friend returned the money. ".
This is one of those tell-tale made up stories where the villain patiently waits for a witness to show up before continuing their crazy behavior. No doubt it can happen, but this particular story of the violent but very patient customer did not happen. See these juicy fibs all the time in their articles to meet some deadline.
"Support groups and lawmakers say legal loopholes are to blame for what's happening. In Japan, buying and selling sex for money is illegal, but the ban is limited to penetration only. The anti-prostitution law imposes a criminal punishment of up to six months in prison and a fine of up to 10,000, but only for the seller and not the buyer. ".
Wow, thanks for the tip. It is true the police are going to suck their teeth on John's if they are just customers. Remember that only PIV is illegal, paying a woman for HJ / BJ / Anal / Sumatra is legal as long as she is of legal age. What men get in trouble for is being pimps / brokers, which is illegal.
[B]Conclusion[/B]
It must be said that prostitution is not taken seriously in Japan. Nationally, about 400 arrests are made per year. Versus about 7,000 in the US now. Note the US used to average 70,000 in the year 2000 but has dropped enforcement 10-fold to just 7,000 in 2024. It is barely a drop in the bucket and not taken seriously in either country, hence big headlines for every case that makes the exception.
[URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/1197352/japan-number-arrests-breaches-sex-industry/[/URL]
[URL]https://oppaga.fl.gov/Documents/Reports/22-10.pdf#:~:text=Over%20the%20last%2020%20years%2C%20there%20has,the%20majority%20of%20those%20arrested%20for%20prostitution[/URL]
This article is just about one notorious street in Kabukicho, a sub-district of Shinjuku in the city of Tokyo. Let me just say there are other streets where things are different obviously. I have written about them in the appropriate sub-forums.
I only know things because I have two eyes. If you have seen street action to be had, you too can write a report and warn us about naughty streets we should avoid.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2932207]
For a detailed explanation of the sex business in Japan, with all the nuances of legality, here is a detailed interview with a Japanese SW. It will answer every question I have ever heard on this board about delivery health and soapland:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyn-qEYUn68[/URL][/QUOTE]This was great.
Both the interviewer and the woman are good talkers and seem to be pretty intelligent.
She says she's 33 and will probably retire at 35.
Any idea where she works? I suppose with 1000 customers on her list getting a booking is pretty tough.
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Straight Credible Advice
Okay gentlemen. Hoping for some straightforward answers from credible recent visitors to Japan. I need to decide whether to spend time and money visiting Japan. I've gone back and forth 10+ times now. I combine vacation / tourism with mongering each trip. Japan Plus: I'd like to see the country from tourist perspective. Japan Minus: the blatant anti-foreigner sex scene. I don't think I've been to a place (6 punting countries and counting) that isn't welcoming of foreigners. Sort of odd to me.
Yes, I can go back to Thailand only for the 5th time now, but it's becoming harder to explain to family and friends. After getting back from Brazil they're starting to figure out I travel to sex tourist.
Destinations.
So, my very specific questions which will help me decide if Japan is worth the expense and time are:
1. Is there enough foreigner friendly soaplands and escort services (health delivery) with quality and friendly girls? Or it this just one big hassle with disappointing results?
2. Is any foreigner able to get "raw" (bareback) sex from these venues even if they pay a little more? Yes, I'm polite, clean, well dressed, friendly, clean cut.
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Tried a new (to me) soapland called Casanova. This is a traditional place in Yoshiwara, which means you should get a soapy massage with mat play and sex. Their website is in English, which is a great sign. The website says "We are the 100% foreigner friendly" which is a better sign.
[URL]https://casanova-soapland.com/[/URL]
I made initial contact over WhatsApp. Everything in English. They suggested making an appointment. I asked to visit in 2 days. A Friday afternoon. They said it was fine. I made arrangements to meet Asuka.
I showed up a few minutes early. They had my reservation by name. An older guy in a suit welcomed me and brought me to a waiting room. By the time he brought me some tea Asuka was already ready.
I came out and there she was. Friendly and waving. She's pretty, quite petite, speaks little English. Pretty much looks like her pics. But she did a great job. It was a full on soap experience.
Took off my clothes and put them away for me.
Washed my body with little sucks and licks in between.
Gave me a nice hot bath.
Full on soapy body slide with lots of mouth and tongue play.
Good rimming, great BJ.
FS with condom in several positions.
I laid back and let her do all the work. I go to a place like this to get serviced. And serviced I was! She rode me for a solid 15 minutes without taking a break. I was amazed by her effort. Felt great rubbing and touching that slim body with the lotion all over it too. No wonder Diddy buys oil by the truck load!
Total damage was 55,000 Yen for 80 minute. Got a drink and free ride to the train station after.
Definitely would repeat when I want real soapland service in Tokyo.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2953530]Tried a new (to me) soapland called Casanova. This is a traditional place in Yoshiwara, which means you should get a soapy massage with mat play and sex. Their website is in English, which is a great sign. The website says "We are the 100% foreigner friendly" which is a better sign.
Total damage was 55,000 Yen for 80 minute. Got a drink and free ride to the train station after.
Definitely would repeat when I want real soapland service in Tokyo.[/QUOTE]Is the 55000 fee paid upfront?
Is there ability to negotiate addons with girl in private, or is the whole experienced pretty much scripted from girl perspective (was, bbj, covered sex, wash. Repeat for next guy)?
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2953530]Tried a new (to me) soapland called Casanova. This is a traditional place in Yoshiwara, which means you should get a soapy massage with mat play and sex. Their website is in English, which is a great sign. The website says "We are the 100% foreigner friendly" which is a better sign.
[URL]https://casanova-soapland.com/[/URL]
I made initial contact over WhatsApp. Everything in English. They suggested making an appointment. I asked to visit in 2 days. A Friday afternoon. They said it was fine. I made arrangements to meet Asuka.[/QUOTE]Wonderful, thanks for confirming another place as foreigner friendly. That's the trend now with the exchange rate, economy, and with COVID restrictions fully lifted (Apr 29 2023). More places are paying attention to the inbound market. More places are also adding a foreigner tax, which we don't like, but at least identifies the place as opening its doors. The higher end places do have better girls on average, especially DH where you can pick a girl matching your type.
I believe as this market share slowly grows, competition will moderate the tax. It seems to range from 5000 yen to 15000 yen in most places I've checked. Some small tax does makes sense for the added risk they take, and the labor to service non-Japanese speakers. Time will tell, I expect in 1-3 years more and more places will turn and drive down that tax to something reasonable.
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2953269]Yes, I can go back to Thailand only for the 5th time now, but it's becoming harder to explain to family and friends. After getting back from Brazil they're starting to figure out I travel to sex tourist.[/QUOTE]This video was made for you.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctDjnG8J9cY[/URL]
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2953269]I don't think I've been to a place (6 punting countries and counting) that isn't welcoming of foreigners. Sort of odd to me.
1. Is there enough foreigner friendly soaplands and escort services (health delivery) with quality and friendly girls? Or it this just one big hassle with disappointing results?
2. Is any foreigner able to get "raw" (bareback) sex from these venues even if they pay a little more? Yes, I'm polite, clean, well dressed, friendly, clean cut.[/QUOTE]Japan has had COVID restrictions since Apr 2020 to Apr 2023, and even after they were lifted tourism spots were not properly trained or staffed let alone all flights available. They have just barely recovered perhaps 1 year ago after being depressed for over 3 years. Business are still getting used to the idea of servicing inbound tourists again. The exchange rate has made Japan more attractive, and thereby soaplands more open but also greedy. There are now many options for you that have been posted that are foreigner friendly, some fully English friendly.
From a friend, I will try out this one next year. It has a hefty foreigner tax of 15,000 but I don't care since it has a few girls I want to see.
[URL]https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html[/URL] English page (it is a single page with everything summarized).
[URL]https://gingira.jp/system.html[/URL] Japanese page explaining just the system. Scroll down and you'll see 2 ad videos showing you what you get. Wonderful.
[URL]https://www.img-bank.net/gingira/movie/attachmentFile/95/GINGIRA_NANASE6min%E5%A4%A7.mp4[/URL] Link to one video with Nanase.
[URL]https://gingira.jp/profile/NANASE[/URL] Nanase's profile.
The most important thing about Gingira is I know they use legit ads for the girls. Specifically, I know two of the girls actually look better than their ad. That's how it should be, people aren't going to be disappointed that way and will come back. Cannot say that of the majority of other shops I've tried (though in Japan it is usually close). And of course I can't vouch for any but those two but that's a good sign that it's 2 for 2. It will be many months before I visit, but I will have a report next year assuming it goes as planned.
Nanase graciously allowed the naughty ad to be filmed. I wanted to narrate some excerpts from the ad, as if I were the guy (humor me). First, notice how nice jgirls look with clothes on. Jgirls are famous for looking their best with clothes on, but it is a dice roll when the clothes come off. She and I exchange 'gyu' for hugs. I have a huge grin like a simp and tell her how much cuter she is than the ad, I'm so glad I paid money for sex with her. Really she asks. Really, yokatta. I forget I'm paying by the minute and focus on hugging her, so the scene has to skp forward. Now we are in the lotion bath, what beautiful white A cups she has. Many guys have turned at run at this, but I am all-in. I have to say they found the perfect actor here to represent the average guy coming. They want people watching this ad not to hesitate. It can be me they should think.
And so on. Damn, this ad really shows Nanase's good sides. If you don't mind A cups, book her before I do. There are dozens of soaplands like Gingira, many with English sites now explaining the process. Enjoy and no more need for Rosetta stone to learn Thai.
First photo attached is Nanase's profile photo. It says Nanase is 20. Surprisingly, at this store the ages aren't too off. Another girl is advertised as 19 and it turns out she was 19 when she started, but now 22 - it still says she's 19. So in a very backwards way this shop at least doesn't just make up a number, the ages were at one point correct (unlike many other shops).
They have quite the extras. If you see "A girl enter the room, fellatio Immediately" that's exactly what you means - she sucks your dick right away. I'm not sure I'm ready for that one, but I want to be brave. "Piss show" apparently in Japanese it's called "holy water" in kanji and you're just supposed to know that means piss. Huh. Note "Drinking cum", options like these depend on the girl, see a girl's ad page and if it shows O or not meaning they will do it. Most important, see if the girl is "foreigner okay" which a lot of them are. Triangle means "maybe" - either they roll a 20-sided die or they see I can speak in complete sentences and gives me the okay sign.
Some girls also support 3P. What a coincidence, so do I!
Seriously, it turns out just today I had my first 3P. Even blindfolded myself and correctly identified which girl it was by her ass before shoving in. Well, I will try to do the same in Japan once I get up to date on DH again. I love my oppai pubs but there are specific girls I want to see now.
This is one of the better shops with some great looking girls (I've seen them at a different shop before they moved here)and charges accordingly. The theme is 'disco era', love the look.
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[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2953548]Is the 55000 fee paid upfront?
Is there ability to negotiate addons with girl in private, or is the whole experienced pretty much scripted from girl perspective (was, bbj, covered sex, wash. Repeat for next guy)?[/QUOTE]Japan is a bit unusual in that pretty much everything is paid up front. On the other hand it's pretty rare to get ripped off in Japan. Never happened to me in 20 years of visiting.
At a soapland you are going to get wash, nuru, BBBJ, FS (covered or uncovered). Differences between places are:
- Price.
- Cleanliness.
- Quality of girl.
- Quality of service.
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Here's another good find in Tokyo:
Japanese Girls Massage Bamboo Forest [URL]https://japanese-girls-massage.tokyo/system[/URL].
In room massage, and they are pretty quick and hassle free about setting it up. No need to show ID, have a Japanese phone number, or any of that annoying stuff that so many places require. Also foreign friendly and English speaking.
I was able to get a nice Japanese women in her 20's sent to my hotel in about 2 hours. She was English speaking. Tight clothes. Lots of flirting and joking around. She never got naked. Not that kind of place. But after a really good massage she flipped me over and worked a nice load out of me.
60 minutes was 20000 Yen, no delivery fee or tipping.
The website says "no sexual services" but I ended up getting a world class hand job with nuru lotion on my first try. Is this the norm? YMMV.
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AmateurTokyo
Booked a 2 h outcall from [URL]amateurtokyo.com[/URL] few weeks ago, wanted to give a heads up which I haven't seen detailed yet on the forum. 10% tax is charged on the prices listed on the website, this is not the credit card surcharge, this is even for cash. But they removed the admission fee 2 k.
So for a Shinjuku 2 h outcall, it was 34 + 2 choice + 2 delivery plus 10% tax on all this, total 41.8 k.
Girl was nice, as expected.
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[QUOTE=John557;2954715]Booked a 2 h outcall from [URL]amateurtokyo.com[/URL] few weeks ago, wanted to give a heads up which I haven't seen detailed yet on the forum. 10% tax is charged on the prices listed on the website, this is not the credit card surcharge, this is even for cash. But they removed the admission fee 2 k.
So for a Shinjuku 2 h outcall, it was 34 + 2 choice + 2 delivery plus 10% tax on all this, total 41.8 k.
Girl was nice, as expected.[/QUOTE]AFAIK, every place in Tokyo charges the consumption tax.
Who was the girl? What did she do? BBBJ or more?
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I've only frequented a few shops here and the price on website was always tax-inclusive, including at THC. Amateur Tokyo was the only one where the final price I got was different, but still went ahead.
Won't name the girl, hasn't been reviewed here but I looked at their Japanese page (Shibuya Garden AFAIR) for reviews on the girls. I only talk of extras with the girl directly so hadn't taken CIM option while booking but she gave BBBJ anyway without asking. Sex is 10 k.
Their Japanese page also doesn't mention that prices are tax-exclusive (different prices though).
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2954032]Japan is a bit unusual in that pretty much everything is paid up front. On the other hand it's pretty rare to get ripped off in Japan. Never happened to me in 20 years of visiting.
At a soapland you are going to get wash, nuru, BBBJ, FS (covered or uncovered). Differences between places are:
- Price.
- Cleanliness.
- Quality of girl.
- Quality of service.[/QUOTE]Thanks RR. Very helpful. Sounds like soaplands catering to foreigners might be place to focus.
With the exception of maybe one response from a busy body member without a life and nothing better to do than give personal opinions (hunter) I appreciate the input from members of the board. Japan trip is booked in March! I'll continue research and report after trip. Cheers.
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Spontaneous Tokyo Visit. Day 1
This is going to be a tough post to write. I have long held a desire to check out the adult entertainment scene in Tokyo, but never had the city high on my list. Despite having numerous tried and tested international cities under my belt, I spontaneously booked a flight to Haneda to satisfy my curiosity of Tokyo. Since I have traveled all over Asia for business and seen Japanese men in adult venues acting like drunken sailors, I was apprehensive of what they might have available in their home country. Since I find Japanese women incredibly beautiful, my mission was to identify the most beautiful women in Tokyo.
Arriving at HND and making my way through Immigration and Customs at terminal 3 was a breeze. I booked a stay at the Hyatt Regency Tokyo knowing that it was a short walk to Shinjuku and I had plenty of Hyatt points to burn. Fortunately, the Hyatt Regency is one of the stops using the Airport Limousine bus service. They have a kiosk right as you exit Customs to get your ticket and then you take the elevator down one level. It was about a 45 minute ride into Tokyo before I arrived at my hotel. I highly recommend this service. I think it was 1,400 yen each way.
The first agenda item on my list was to check out the oppai clubs in Shinjuku. I would later learn that Japanese call these places "booby clubs". I used the following web site as my guide. My first stop was to the Treasure Box on the 10th floor of the Daikan Plaza (link below). As I got off the elevator, I was rudely met by a man telling me "Japanese Only" and redirecting me back to the elevator. Using Google Translate I did my best to make my case for entry, but he was clear "No Foreigner. Japanese Only" so I left.
[URL]https://www.prds.net/a_shop_list/c_shinjuku/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_11180/[/URL]
As I left the building I walked toward the action and stumbled upon a place that helps you book visits to these booby clubs in Shinjuku. I was told that most of the places in Shinjuku are Japanese only and there were only a few that were foreigner friendly. I was encouraged to check out a place called Sweater Moon. Link below. Since I was a foreigner, they required me to pay upfront and then escorted me down some stairs and into a small curtained booth. They served me a cold draft beer and a few moments later brought me a very average looking lady. She was someone passable if she was free, but not someone I would ever pay for. I spent about 20 minutes with her on my lap and then it was time for girl #2. This girl was not passable and I did my best to politely ask for another girl. The answer was a clear no. You get what they give you like it or not. I decided to cut my losses and leave.
[URL]https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_10960/[/URL]
After leaving Sweater Moon I came upon another location that helps with booking these clubs. I told the guy my type and told him I wanted to go to Leicester. He made a call and then had one of his guys escort me to the club. Knowing where Leicester was and where I was being escorted, I asked where he was taking me. He pointed out Luxe was where they had booked me. Since I had heard about this place, I allowed him to take me in. Of course, they had me pre-pay. Luxe is not really luxurious and quite small. The seating is open but they did have some private vip rooms. Similar to the first place, the first girl was passable but the second girl was big and not attractive. They refused to offer me another girl and I decided to leave.
[URL]https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_11288/[/URL]
After 3 disappointments, I made my way to Leicester to see if they would allow me in. Similar to my first stop, there was no way they were letting me in their club. "Japanese Only" and "No Foreigners" is what I was quickly coming to terms with. I couldn't bribe / tip these guys to let me in. They didn't care how much I was willing to spend, they were not letting a mid-age white guy from the USA in their club. You have to accept it, but it doesn't feel good to be not allowed into a club because of your race.
[URL]https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_11306/[/URL]
Given that my night wasn't going too well, I opted to take a taxi to 7th Heaven. I had heard that it was the closest thing to a western style strip club. Entry was 7,000 yen and that got you two drinks. Lap dances were 7,000 ($46 USD) in a private curtained booth. Oddly there were no Japanese girls. Most looked to be from Europe (the Cubans have not made their way to Japan yet! I saw one girl I liked and had her brought over to me. She put the heavy push for me to buy a bottle of champagne. She tried to convince me that I was required to buy her drinks so I might as well buy a bottle. A 15,000 ($100 USD) yen bottle got you one free lapdance so you are essentially paying 8,000 for the champagne. Not a great value, but my night wasn't going well so I agreed and then took this Romanian for a dance. Her dance was nothing too special so I only did one. I grabbed a seat near the stage and made some small talk with a Japanese guy that spoke perfect English. We agreed 7th Heaven was terrible. I explained that I was in Tokyo looking to see the most beautiful Japanese women. He suggested that we go to a hostess club in Ginza. He invited me to go and I accepted. He was paying for the taxi so why not.
Arriving near the Ginza Grand Hotel, we arrived at a place called Vogue. Unlike the places in Shinjuku that I previously visited, we were warmly greeted due to me being escorted by a Japanese man. Vogue was a very luxurious club with absolutely gorgeous women. My new Japanese friend told me there was no touching, but it might be possible to bring the girl back to my hotel at the end of their shift. Since I had been to KTVs in China, I sort of knew how these clubs worked, but Tokyo is much different. It was clear as a foreigner that I was not taking my favorite girl back to my hotel on my first visit. My new friend wasn't able to get his girl to go with him either. He did share how addicting these places are for Japanese men and that he probably spent millions of yen at these places. A good girl can easily make a lonely Japanese man fall in love with her and have him coming in night after night in the hopes of eventually getting her to go out with him. Frankly, I had a great time at Vogue and my time flew by. Total damage was 101,000 yen (about $662) for our drinks and the time with the girls. Was this a good value. Absolutely not!
Upon leaving Vogue, I was educated on this area of Tokyo. I saw tons of men leaving clubs with gorgeous women. My new friend shared with me that this street was lined with clubs similar to Vogue. While he claimed Vogue was one of the top hostess clubs, he showed me how the clubs lined the street and how the drivers for wealthy Japanese businessmen stand along the sidewalk waiting for their bosses to exit the clubs with a lady before going to a love hotel. He explained that these men regularly go to these clubs and spend a lot of money. The girls leave the clubs with their regular customers. These Japanese men go into these hostess clubs and the hostesses often go out with their customers after work to keep them coming in. Please note, I never had a girl solicit me to leave the club for money or offer me sex.
As we were standing along the sidewalk outside Vogue, the most gorgeous woman I have ever seen was walking towards us. It was clear she was leaving her work at a club, so I asked my new friend to go up to her and ask where she worked and to get her name. It turned out that she worked at O which was on the 3rd floor above where Vogue was. I told the girl that I was going to be in the next night to see her.
Given my lack of sleep, I decided to call it a night and made my way back to the Hyatt. End of Day 1.
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Tokyo. Day 2
In the same location as Treasure Box is a club that operates from 6 am to 2 pm called Jewelry Box. Yes, same exact club but apparently different owners. One operates during the morning and the other at night. Link below. Knowing all too well that I would likely get booted and refused entry, I decided to learn my lesson from my time with my Japanese friend. Upon being immediately turned away, I professed that I had been there the week before with my Japanese friend and that they promised to let me in if I came back. After a lot of back and forth and a phone call to my friend, they relented and actually let me into the club after a 15 minute hassle. Similar to Luxe, the club was not all that special and not worth the hassle. They gave me one girl that I had previously seen on their site. She looked NOTHING like her web site photos, but she was nice and provided good service. I believe I spent 13,000 yen ($85 USD) on my 40 minutes with this girl. They did not offer me another girl.
I did learn something from my visit to Jewelry Box. The girls seem to love white men and have no problem with foreigners but the men that work there do. I was repeatedly told about it being difficult to communicate and foreigners walking out on their tabs. Personally, I just don't think these men want foreigners with their Japanese girls.
[URL]https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_11179/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_11179/n_shop_girl_detail/o_113677/[/URL]
Upon leaving Jewelry Box, I walked around the corner to an odd place where all of the girls wear nurses outfits. Once again, immediately upon getting off the elevator I was told "Japanese Only" and refused service. Using the same technique as earlier, I simply lied and explained that I had been there before with my Japanese friend. They agreed to let me in if I paid upfront. Similar to Sweater Moon, you are escorted into a booth and they bring a girl of their choosing to you. My first two girls were very average but super nice. Good kissers, nice boobs and plenty of stick shifting. My third girl was very skinny but very ugly and had terrible body odor. Two minutes in I just had to stop her and told her I needed to leave. I did not put up any fuss and just decided to cut my losses and leave. I think I spent 10,000 yen here.
[URL]https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_11233/[/URL]
I decided at this point to make my way to Soapyland in Yoshiwara. I used the following web site as my guide. My friend had suggested Luxe, Versailles and Lavieen Rose to checkout.
[URL]https://camikaze.cc/soapland/yoshiwara/[/URL]
[URL]https://camikaze.cc/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yoshiwarasoapland.webp[/URL]
I have been to so many places all over the world and have never seen a anything like soapyland in Yoshiwara. If you look at the map on this web site, you will see how many there are in this concentrated area. I started at Luxe and Casanova. I walked up and down the streets and probably went inside 15-20 places. Per the Camacaze web site, "Foreign visitors are welcome to the area, though discrimination based on ethnicity and possibly your Japanese comprehension may be faced. " This was exactly my experience. As a Caucasian American, I noticed that I was required to pay more for services, that discounts listed on their web sites were not available to me, some had a minimum time of 120 minutes, and there were limitations on the providers available / offered to me. I could go to a web site and see 10 or 15 girls scheduled, but only 2 would be offered to me. Versailles actually told me "no insertion" for foreign customers because foreigners are too big. I noticed that the prices ranged from 70,000 to 90,000 yen. Some accepted credit cards with a 20% surcharge and some were cash only.
If you have been to places in Thailand, Vietnam, Jakarta, Manila, or Macau, you know that most places like this have a selection process. In Thailand many places use a "fish bowl" where spas in Macau bring out all of their girls for a lineup where the girls line up right in front of you. In Yoshiwara, they hand you an ipad or they present you with photos in a picture frame which you can tell are heavily edited. I was very tempted a few times to roll the dice and select a girl to try the experience, but I ultimately decided NOT to spend $600 and I returned to my hotel. Had they allowed me to select the girl that I really liked I might have done a session. I am sure there were some amazing girls in soapyland, but they were not available to me and they will not be available to you.
After getting a little rest, I decided to make my way back to Ginza. My new Japanese friend messaged me that he was already at Vogue with one of his clients, but I told him that I planned to go to O to see the girl from the prior night.
Upon getting off the 3rd floor and walking into O I was once again stopped almost immediately upon entering. I was told "Private Club" and "Japanese Only" and "No Foreigners". To say they were hostile towards me would be understatement. Believing that I could work through this, I politely told them that I was there to see a lady that I had met the night before. I provided her name and they brought her out to the entrance. As I saw her walk towards me in the entry, she looked stunningly gorgeous and seemed happy to see me. She spoke some Japanese to the managers and I have no idea what she said. They then brought out a beautiful young lady that spoke perfect English. They asked me what I did for work. Oddly, once I told them what I did for work and the company I worked for, they smiled and handed me a portfolio that showed their prices. They told me that it would cost 100,000 yen to enter ($650 USD). When I told them that I was not planning to drink, they showed that it would cost 50,000 yen. I agreed to this and they escorted me to a table.
While these places may not appeal to most of the readers on ISG, I think it is worth sharing what is offered in Tokyo. First, O is not a big club, but it is definitely highclass and they definitely cater to a much older clientele than Vogue. I saw many men in their 70's and 80's but the women were a step above the ladies at Vogue. These women were 10's! The lady I was there to see was not immediately available, so they had the English speaking lady join me. She was gorgeous too! I sat with her for about 45 minutes and got a really good education on these hostess clubs. These places are part of the Japanese culture. Beautiful young Japanese women work in these places and often marry their customers or they have arrangements / affairs with wealthy older Japanese men. I saw many women with designer handbags, expensive designer shoes, and expensive watches and diamond earrings. I asked this lady if her watch was a gift and she told me that most Japanese men do not buy gifts. She indicated she makes very good money working at O and she is able to buy nice things for herself. I asked if she saw customers outside of the club. She indicated that O closes at midnight and she will go out with men after the club closes. She did not proposition me, but it was clear that she was interested in seeing an American man. When I asked how much she typically charges to go out with a customer, she indicated that she will accept tips but she goes out with customers that are generous in the club.
Eventually the lady I was there to see became available. She did not speak English but I was able to use Google translate with no problem. Once again, some readers might not care about spending money or time with a beautiful lady unless she offered sex, but this was actually an enjoyable experience. I get why my new Japanese friend and other Japanese men get addicted to these places. There was something sort of hypnotic about spending time with an extremely gorgeous woman and just having a delightful conversation. This woman was very honest and indicated that she was very conservative. She indicated that she does not leave the club with men and that is why I saw her leaving the club alone the night before. She indicated that some girls leave the club with customers but she did not typically do this.
Okay, so while I am sitting with this gorgeous lady, the girl I met at Vogue the night before was blowing up my phone. Since it was approaching midnight and there was no way this beauty was leaving with me, I closed out my bill and she walked me to the elevator and gave me a warm embrace and thanked me for coming in.
I took the elevator down to Vogue and was immediately greeted with the same "Japanese Only" and "No Foreigners". Fully prepared, I pulled out my credit card receipt from the night before and was immediately escorted to a table. My girl from the night before was not immediately available so they had a lovely lady sit with me. Eventually the girl that had been blowing my phone up arrived at my table. She politely explained that a customer came in and purchased champagne and a vip room. She said would not be able to spend time with me and she was honest that she needed to go out with this customer once the club closed. For some reason this didn't bother me like my visit to Soapyland bothered me.
I got the impression from all of these hostesses that they really do not have the freedom to pick and choose who they spend time with. I got the impression these girls are paid by the club to come into work and are brought over to customers by the hosts. If customers do not find the girl attractive and appealing, they are not asked to work again. If these girls are not able to get their customers to spend money on drinks or champagne, they do not make money and are not asked to work. I believe these girls get paid a commission on what they drink and what I drink. I got the impression that these girls are highly encouraged to go out with customers of the club to keep these customers coming in. Essentially, you come in and see me at work and I will go out with you after. Or, I will meet you for dinner before work if you come in and see me at the club after dinner. It is really about getting men hooked and coming into the club regularly. If a girl does not have a following of customers that spend money, she is not making money for the club and is not working there for long. I think the girl at O is so gorgeous and classy that she does not need to go out with customers to keep them coming in to see her.
I do not know if a hostess club like the ones in Tokyo would be successful in any city in the USA, but there really is something appealing about the places I visited and I only visited two. It is so relaxing and enjoyable to spend time with these hostesses. I admit that I could get hooked too!
As I was returning to my hotel, I decided to cut my visit to Tokyo short. I had satisfied my curiosity and realized that Tokyo just did not offer the same value that I look for. I booked a flight home for the next evening.
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Tokyo. Final Day
Not able to sleep-in this morning, I decided to go back to the Jewelry Box since they opened at 6:00 am. I arrived around 7:30 and was met once I got off the elevator from the same guy from the day before. I once again was hostilely met by this guy with "No! No!" Of course I was like WTF is the problem now? I was just here yesterday. I was told the place was full and there were no girls available to service foreigners. He told me that most of their girls do not want to service foreign customers. Again, 10 to 15 minutes of harassment and they eventually let me in. Was the club full? Maybe 25% of the place was occupied by really young Japanese guys that were drunk and passed out.
While I was waiting for a girl to be brought over to me, I got the attention of one of the hosts. He sat next to me and using Google translate, I explained that this was my last morning in Tokyo and I was willing to spend money if he was willing to give me the girl of my choice. He smiled and asked me who I wanted. I pointed out this petite little lady. He said he would bring her over once she was finished with the other customer. Sure enough, in 10 minutes she was brought over and immediately hopped on my lap and put her tongue in my mouth. This tiny little Japanese girl acted like she was in love with me. The way she was straddling me, grinded on me, and kissed me, I knew that I had to sit in one of their vip booths. We got the attention of the host and he quickly moved us. I did two hours with this little lady and had a blast. I am convinced this lady had multiple orgasms grinding on my big American penis. If she wasn't grinding on me then her hands were on it and stick shifting. This lady, from all appearances, appeared to be enjoying her time with me as much as I was with her and I think the host noticed this. Upon closing out my bill, I asked him to write something for me to give to the guys at the entry so I could avoid their future harassment. He wrote something on my receipt basically instructing them to let me in and what girl to immediately put me with on future visits. I recall my bill was 84,000 yen for my two hours in vip with her and her drinks.
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Final Thoughts on Tokyo from my visit
Tokyo is an amazing city. It is clean and very safe. If the people were as warm, friendly, and hospitable as Thai people, it would be an amazing city to visit regularly. I am willing to work through obstacles, but the glaring discrimination you receive is NOT worth it if you are coming to a country / city to spend your hard-earned money. So many of these places do NOT want your business despite hearing countless times how bad business is and how bad the Japanese economy is. I am a Caucasian man, but there are Caucasian men all over the world that will get the same exact experience as me upon entering any of these Tokyo establishments. I can only imagine how a tourist from India or the Middle East would be treated by these Japanese clubs. Do I think anything will change? No! Walk the streets of Tokyo and you will see it is probably the least diverse city in the world. If Japan wanted us to visit and bring in our tourist dollars, they would welcome visitors warmly and not shun us from patronizing their businesses. The Japanese could learn something from the Thai culture about how to be hospitable to foreigners.
Will I go back to Tokyo? A very slight maybe. I prefer places that represent great value and Tokyo is not one of those cities. Toronto, Sao Paulo and Tijuana are three of the best places in North and South America. Germany and Switzerland are good value in Europe. Thailand and the Philippines are great value in Asia. What I spent in Tokyo would have allowed me to party like a rock star in any of these other places. What I spent at O in Tokyo would have allowed me to bring a girl from Scandallo back to my hotel for an overnight. What I would have spent in Soapyland would have allowed me to pull 5 girls out of Hong Kong in Tijuana. What you spend in one night in Tokyo would allow you to spend a week in Bangkok or Angeles City. I can cross Tokyo off my list now, but I know where NOT to spend my money. The Japanese hostess clubs are an incredible experience, but like a slot machine in any casino, you have to continuously feed it with money for it to eventually pay off.
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Thank you
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2955577]This is going to be a tough post to write. I have long held a desire to check out the adult entertainment scene in Tokyo, but never had the city high on my list. Despite having numerous tried and tested international cities under my belt, I spontaneously booked a flight to Haneda to satisfy my curiosity of Tokyo. Since I have traveled all over Asia for business and seen Japanese men in adult venues acting like drunken sailors, I was apprehensive of what they might have available in their home country. Since I find Japanese women incredibly beautiful, my mission was to identify the most beautiful women in Tokyo.[/QUOTE]Thank you ATexGuy, you are a hero for pointing the way. Your experiences remind me of my first visits to Japan. Trial and error with many refusals, but a lot of accidental wins and meeting some interesting people. You did a lot in just a few days. I hope you also had some special memories sightseeing too, Japan is special.
The two clubs you were first rejected by were Hosekinobako (super hard word to pronounce) and Leicester (always pronounced Lester in Japanese). You first went to Luxe which is 100% foreigner friendly, sorry to hear you didn't get good girls until later. When a girl looks nothing like her photos, she might be substitute for the real girl. 90% of girls I saw were photo accurate, but the very hottest girl of all was brand new so she borrowed someone else's profile. I played with her for 3 long hours. It is the ultimate gacha game I suppose. My reviews on the three oppai pubs:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927559#post2927559[/URL]
Make use of the '24 hour Manzoku' shops like ATexGuy, they are 3rd party and will know which shops will take foreigners. In my case I could speak Japanese so they made a phone call to Hoseki and said "Can I introduce you to a customer? He is a foreigner who can speak Japanese" The answer was Yes. Maybe if it was busy it would be No. They never mentioned my race - race doesn't matter unless you are Black or Indian, all that matters is your Japanese ability and that you're a foreigner. Even my Japanese American friend was treated the same.
After my 1st visit to a shop like Hoseki, I presented a discount card a girl gave me that also acted as proof I'm a repeat visitor. Or save your receipt with your name like ATexGuy. That's what they really care about, there are enough foreigners that run on the bill or cause trouble but a receipt rules those two out instantly. Notice how the girls vouched for ATexGuy, if the girls feel safe they are happy to serve foreigners (it's a big if). I'm not saying that the staff's hostile attitude is okay, just that we have to be problem solvers. There is an English staffed shop like Manzoku but forgot the name of it.
My first time in Japan I wasn't even there to monger, just to see a girl. I was walking downtown Sakae in Nagoya when a Japanese tout beckoned me in. It was weekday dinner time so things were dead slow. Even with limited Japanese (3 months), as a presentable gentleman I could enter an oppai pub. I actually entered three. I don't know if it's still true but Nagoya is so cheap compared to Tokyo, it was 4000 yen ($27) to make out with 3 women for an hour. They were quite cute. People drop $1 K on strippers in NYC and don't even get LFK.
After making out with the third girl and giving her tits one final goodbye kiss, I was a transformed man. I became Traveler X. I made the very first review for Nagoya on this site, twenty years ago:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1805-Nagoya&p=187592&viewfull=1#post187592[/URL]
There is a foreigner tax regardless of race. Even my Japanese American friend who could speak basic Japanese was charged a foreigner tax, though I'm sure other places will make an exception. I saw many Asian Americans at oppai pubs, they all spoke middling Japanese (2-10 years). Being white is not a big impdeiment (it's better than other races), the language ability is. As your experience shows, once they know you are a legit business person and not some bum that saved up cash (this is most their customers btw), they are less worried. We foreigners all look the same to them whether White, Asian, or other. It's why once I see a girl and she gives me her card, simply presenting the card gains me re-entry. Though as a rule it means you are also asking for that girl. If she's not working that day, they still give you discount and hand back the card. They even apologized twice to me and I was like "No really, it's fine"
I too enjoyed talking with women, it's not for many other guys who just want to bang but but there's a reason it's popular. "Talk only" places can be cheap fun, but of course there are super high end places too where it costs 10 x as much and the ladies are amazing. Thanks for sharing your experiences. Most Japanese women are refreshingly honest and upfront, they are not going to pretend they'll go out with you after then not do it. Or they'll tell you nicely they don't go out with me, and it's usually the truth. We can understand they'll make an exception if they make a special connection, but the jist is still true some girls are not there to bang.
"Fully prepared, I pulled out my credit card receipt from the night before and was immediately escorted to a table. " OMG I never though to this, their reaction is very Japanese and golden. I have an old habit of "leave no trace behind" but do keep girls' cards to get back in. A receipt is even better proof.
"She politely explained that a customer came in and purchased champagne and a vip room. She said would not be able to spend time with me and she was honest that she needed to go out with this customer once the club closed" This is a classy girl, doing it the right way and being upfront and respecting your time. And yes, they do not generally have the freedom to pick and choose, if a guy books her he gets her. It's the business and they are professionals.
"Maybe 25% of the place was occupied by really young Japanese guys that were drunk and passed out. " Oppai pubs are 10% whale customers, 10% good customers like you and me who spend generously, and 80% cheapskates who might not even buy a drink. The reason they don't want to let a white guy like you in is they don't want to add to the 80%. Once you pull out the receipt from yesterday, it's a 180.
"I explained that this was my last morning in Tokyo and I was willing to spend money if he was willing to give me the girl of my choice. He smiled and asked me who I wanted. I pointed out this petite little lady. He said he would bring her over once she was finished with the other customer. Sure enough, in 10 minutes she was brought over and immediately hopped on my lap and put her tongue in my mouth. This tiny little Japanese girl acted like she was in love with me" Props to you, I probably should do this. Instead, I will go through 9 girls just to find the girl I want. I think 95% of guys won't do that, but somehow I love the challenge. Ultimate speed dating right.
"The way she was straddling me, grinded on me, and kissed me, I knew that I had to sit in one of their vip booths. We got the attention of the host and he quickly moved us. I did two hours with this little lady and had a blast. ".
I'm so glad you gave it one last chance and made it clear what you wanted. Could have been a more mediocre trip otherwise. When I said I made out with a perfect 10 for 3 hours, it's true. But I had to see 18 other girls over three nights to do it. I mean I got two other 9's I'll always remember, but still. You and I both spent well compared to other customers, but I consider it a steal. Never had such a good experience with the 3 best girls elsewhere, and keep in mind I'm banging and filming jgirl porn in the US so it's no like I don't have access.
The unpleasant feeling of discrimination you had lingered with me as well my first trip. I made 19 more trips after that with less and less problems. So I don't justify their behavior, but I think it can be solved on repeat visits with experience. Not to mention that every year more shops have English staff and are foreigner friendly if you research them.
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Kudos to you, you are as brave as you are intelligent. Japan has also been on my list but second tier for the exact reasons you so clearly pointed out. It's obvious to me that some help is required when your boots are actually on the ground there so I would probably use an app like Showaround to make a quick local friend to kick open some doors for me.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2955586]Tokyo is an amazing city. It is clean and very safe. If the people were as warm, friendly, and hospitable as Thai people, it would be an amazing city to visit regularly. I am willing to work through obstacles, but the glaring discrimination you receive is NOT worth it if you are coming to a country / city to spend your hard-earned money. So many of these places do NOT want your business despite hearing countless times how bad business is and how bad the Japanese economy is. I am a Caucasian man, but there are Caucasian men all over the world that will get the same exact experience as me upon entering any of these Tokyo establishments. I can only imagine how a tourist from India or the Middle East would be treated by these Japanese clubs. Do I think anything will change? No! Walk the streets of Tokyo and you will see it is probably the least diverse city in the world. If Japan wanted us to visit and bring in our tourist dollars, they would welcome visitors warmly and not shun us from patronizing their businesses. The Japanese could learn something from the Thai culture about how to be hospitable to foreigners.
Will I go back to Tokyo? A very slight maybe. I prefer places that represent great value and Tokyo is not one of those cities. Toronto, Sao Paulo and Tijuana are three of the best places in North and South America. Germany and Switzerland are good value in Europe. Thailand and the Philippines are great value in Asia. What I spent in Tokyo would have allowed me to party like a rock star in any of these other places. What I spent at O in Tokyo would have allowed me to bring a girl from Scandallo back to my hotel for an overnight. What I would have spent in Soapyland would have allowed me to pull 5 girls out of Hong Kong in Tijuana. What you spend in one night in Tokyo would allow you to spend a week in Bangkok or Angeles City. I can cross Tokyo off my list now, but I know where NOT to spend my money. The Japanese hostess clubs are an incredible experience, but like a slot machine in any casino, you have to continuously feed it with money for it to eventually pay off.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2955586]
Will I go back to Tokyo? A very slight maybe. I prefer places that represent great value and Tokyo is not one of those cities.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry, but I think you went about your trip the completely wrong way. Those hostess clubs are designed to extract the maximum amount of cash from Japanese businessmen, while providing nothing in return, to keep them coming back in the hopes that spending more money might lead to something.
There are plenty of foreigner friendly places in Tokyo, in fact I think they don't even take Japanese customers! For example THC, and it's sister location GFE soapland. These places are very service oriented and not trying to rip people off. That's what I would recommend to a newbie who has never been to Japan and doesn't speak Japanese.
Last time I was there, I went to the THC soapland (then called Paradise) and had a 19 year old Japanese 10 out of 10, sliding her naked slippery gel coated body all over me for an hour, plus FS, for around $300. This seems like a much better deal than any hostess bar.
Another very good option is Osaka, which has at least two different brothel districts. No looking at pictures online or on an ipad, you can just walk down the street and see the girls in person and pick one you like. Yes, about half the girls do not accept foreigners, but there are plenty of mind blowing beautiful girls that do. I also like the theatrics of this place, they have to serve you "dinner" (some snacks and tea on a tray) to legally operate as a "restaurant". I could imagine this tradition going back hundreds of years and it's fun to take part in.
If you live in the United States or Canada, there are agencies that bring Japanese girls over. However, these sessions cost more than you'd pay for a Japanese girl in Japan.
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[QUOTE=AsiaExplorer;2955935]There are plenty of foreigner friendly places in Tokyo, in fact I think they don't even take Japanese customers! For example THC, and it's sister location GFE soapland. These places are very service oriented and not trying to rip people off. That's what I would recommend to a newbie who has never been to Japan and doesn't speak Japanese.
Last time I was there, I went to the THC soapland (then called Paradise) and had a 19 year old Japanese 10 out of 10, sliding her naked slippery gel coated body all over me for an hour, plus FS, for around $300. This seems like a much better deal than any hostess bar.
If you live in the United States or Canada, there are agencies that bring Japanese girls over. However, these sessions cost more than you'd pay for a Japanese girl in Japan.[/QUOTE]Is this the correct website? I could not find THC in Japan (all the search results are about the drug) but found this:
[URL]https://paradise-tokyo.net/price[/URL]
Video option is becoming a lot more common these days, it's listed as 15,000 which is $99 USD. In the US it's typically 200. Prices are certainly higher in US but on the other hand things are upfront, no dancing around FS you will get it and don't need to negotiate or tip for it. It's guaranteed. The other thing is you can go before work, during your lunch, break. Not saying either one is better, but you can see how it depends on the person and their situation / location. They also bring over the better girls. When the girls worked in Japan, it's no surprise it turns out to be a higher end place. There is quite a gap in quality between different shops in Japan.
In NYC the other benefit is every girl gets reviewed a lot. Some guys see almost every girl, every week. So with 5 visits a week by 3-5 reviewers, the girls that are good draw customers. It's probably one reason why their market attracts and keeps the better girls more consistently. When a top end girl goes to DC / NOVA for example, everyone sees just her and the other 2-4 jgirls split the rest. A good girl can get 8 or 10 bookings a day, which is a lot more than even a popular girl in Japan (to be exact, even when the same girl goes back to Japan). This is a result of word of mouth and a "limited tour" model, it is much more intense in those two regions than elsewhere in the US or even Japan. Where most people just gatekeep their finds.
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Is this the correct website? I could not find THC in Japan (all the search results are about the drug) but found this:
THC is Tokyo Hentai Club. Search that.
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[QUOTE=AsiaExplorer;2955935]There are plenty of foreigner friendly places in Tokyo, in fact I think they don't even take Japanese customers! For example THC, and it's sister location GFE soapland. These places are very service oriented and not trying to rip people off. That's what I would recommend to a newbie who has never been to Japan and doesn't speak Japanese.
Last time I was there, I went to the THC soapland (then called Paradise) and had a 19 year old Japanese 10 out of 10, sliding her naked slippery gel coated body all over me for an hour, plus FS, for around $300. This seems like a much better deal than any hostess bar.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2956189]Is this the correct website? I could not find THC in Japan (all the search results are about the drug) but found this:
[URL]https://paradise-tokyo.net/price[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2956219]THC is Tokyo Hentai Club. Search that.[/QUOTE]THC: [URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/[/URL].
GFE Soapland: [URL]https://gfe-japan.net/[/URL].
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2956189] Prices are certainly higher in US but on the other hand things are upfront, no dancing around FS you will get it and don't need to negotiate or tip for it. [/QUOTE]No negotiation or tipping in Tokyo soaplands. You go and you get sex. And it's legal.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2956363]No negotiation or tipping in Tokyo soaplands. You go and you get sex. And it's legal.[/QUOTE]I'm talking Delivery Health where depending on the shop and girl you'll need to negotiate. Some girls do it for free, many for a tip, a few are just ymmv or not.
Also I've always gotten fs at soapland but a few guys have reported girls running a whole course without it, if they think you're a noob. Make sure to ask. I just ask, usually I ask for bj (fera). Then by body language we just start sex. Other times I say "sex oneagaishimasu" if I want to hurry that along and she gets a condom.
Bonus, this is JAV actress Ichika Nagano doing delivery health. Note she does have 2 leaked uncensored JAV (see STARS-232), this is not it. No surprise there is an overlap between JAV and DH girls (and all SW).
Nagano Ichika:
[URL]https://www.javlibrary.com/en/vl_star.php?&mode=&s=aewci&page=5[/URL]
Do not expect to run into an a-list JAV star at DH. It's really rare. You can book A-listers at Tora no Ana, but they have a VIP system where you have to book their lowered tiered girls before you can book the A-listers like Aika. The screencaps shown are from a contributor on a now defunct site. And no, she did not bang even though it was DH. It doesn't always happen.
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Never had to ask for sex in a soapland going back many years. I guess whatever you have to do though.
Delivery health hit or miss, depends on the place and the person too.
Had luck at Tokyo Amateur Escort without even asking. Just paid for AF and ended up the other way around!
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Massages in Tokyo
Hello fellow GP lovers. I'm looking for massages in Tokyo, the kind seen on PornHub, Xvideos, etc. Massages with stretching, with the girl urging you on all the time. Can you give me some light on where to find it?
Grateful.
MonkeyPaw28.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw28;2957789]Hello fellow GP lovers. I'm looking for massages in Tokyo, the kind seen on PornHub, Xvideos, etc. Massages with stretching, with the girl urging you on all the time. Can you give me some light on where to find it?
Grateful.
MonkeyPaw28.[/QUOTE]Haven't seen that porn, but it sounds a lot like my experience at Bamboo Forrest. [URL]https://japanese-girls-massage.tokyo/girl[/URL].
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New Yokohama experience
I just tried a place called Taitanic. Apparently it's the sister shop of Tokyo Amateur Escort. This one is in Yokohama.
It was very easy to book in English, right over the phone. Showed up and they were ready for me.
I picked the girl with the best looking boobs. Pics are definitely edited, but amazingly the women look pretty close. Much better than I expected!
[URL]https://escort-taitanic.com/2024/11/04/romi/[/URL]
Paid 35,000 Yen for 65 minutes. Extra 12,000 for "AF".
We went to a love hotel they suggested. Right near the place. It was easy. She showed up right away. Looked good in her dress, even better in her panties.
Pretty basic shower but in the bed it quickly got steamy. Real AV experience. Mutual oral, cat bath, rimming, and I got FS rather than AF. I was really into the experience. Love these fresh young tight Japanese chicks.
Most places for foreigners push old and saggy women on us. I have been doing really well with this group.
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Gaijin Tax
I'm a US citizen. I'm looking to retire in Japan. One component of my decision is mongering opportunities. Coming from Southern California, my mongering opportunities are pretty good. I know that other countries may be better in regard to pay to play-but overall quality of life is way better in Japan than other countries. My son is taking Japanese language courses and I'm trying to get to a point to be marginally conversational. Luckily I'm okay with non-FS service. Seems like services are very reasonable. Luckily I very much like Asian girls. Wouldn't feel so bad about leaving this county after tonight.
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[QUOTE=Lascivious;2958621]I'm a US citizen. I'm looking to retire in Japan. One component of my decision is mongering opportunities. Coming from Southern California, my mongering opportunities are pretty good. I know that other countries may be better in regard to pay to play-but overall quality of life is way better in Japan than other countries. My son is taking Japanese language courses and I'm trying to get to a point to be marginally conversational. Luckily I'm okay with non-FS service. Seems like services are very reasonable. Luckily I very much like Asian girls. Wouldn't feel so bad about leaving this county after tonight.[/QUOTE]If you're living there long term, it might be better to get yourself some FWBs from the local population.
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[QUOTE=Lascivious;2958621]I'm a US citizen. I'm looking to retire in Japan. One component of my decision is mongering opportunities. Coming from Southern California, my mongering opportunities are pretty good. I know that other countries may be better in regard to pay to play-but overall quality of life is way better in Japan than other countries. My son is taking Japanese language courses and I'm trying to get to a point to be marginally conversational. Luckily I'm okay with non-FS service. Seems like services are very reasonable. Luckily I very much like Asian girls. Wouldn't feel so bad about leaving this county after tonight.[/QUOTE]Correct, for non-FS Japan is way better than the US. The lightest services are dirt cheap. For 6000 yen ($39) you get all you can drink beer and 3 girls for 40 minutes to entertain you, topless, you can kiss them or suck on their tits. These are oppai pubs and the 100% foreigner friendly one is Luxe in Shinjuku. If you vibe with a girl buy her a drink and it tends to put her in a good mood, though I will say at Hosekinobako the girls are more pro and don't expect it. If you are conversational Japanese (2-4 years) and just want to chat, it's more like 4000 yen for 2 girls for 60 minutes. These are early bird prices around 6 pm, most shops 8 to 10 pm raise the price a bit, then raise it again near midnight. In the US even though I can bang a stripper at VIP for 200 plus the cost of VIP (100-140), she won't kiss me among several other things standard in Japan. I would know, I used to write a lot of guides for COI (city of industry) clubs. Since I like Asians anyways it's a no-brainer. See this comprehensive Japan guide by ISG user Traveler X:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666&viewfull=1#post2946666[/URL]
For FS, it's tricky which is better. It's complicated but Japan has lower starter rates at the lower-end soapland, but you tend to get okay looking girls, often in their 30's. The service is very good, but many shops now have a gaijin shops while most others won't' service foreigners. So your selection is limited. As others point out if you vibe with a girl you can get her LINE and meet her out of the shop, but only do this if really think she's above and beyond your type. There is delivery health but then you have to negotiate FS, a few girls do it for free, a few girls don't ever do it, with most girls taking 10 K or 20 K. It's a really YMMV thing. CFS is the norm but certainly some girls are flexible. In Socal you may know the korgs everything is guaranteed. As someone with 20 years of experience with both having made hundreds of appointments, average kgirl service is way better. Jgirls in Socal also offer bb and video as standard options. But if you're not into that, it doesn't factor in. The most important difference though is in Socal you need English to visit (obviously) while in Japan you should either speak Japanese or deal with all the issues already described.
I write many HYA lists so there are definitely may young and cute kgirls, they are the minority (same for jgirls in Japan). But the difference is there is a solid English community to support you. In Japan there's a bit more gatekeeping especially with many boards set up and run by the shops themselves. So I can leave simp messages of support to my favorite girls, but not leave an actual review for them. This site ISG lets you do that, but obviously there are few of us since it's Japan and only 2% of Japan is foreigners. So please review girls and shops if you see them, I will do the same after my next trip. Good luck!
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2958858]Correct, for non-FS Japan is way better than the US. The lightest services are dirt cheap. For 6000 yen ($39) you get all you can drink beer and 3 girls for 40 minutes to entertain you, topless, you can kiss them or suck on their tits. These are oppai pubs and the 100% foreigner friendly one is Luxe in Shinjuku.
[/QUOTE]I took a look at Luxe's website and they look extremely high-end, which is kind of intimidating.
I would feel out of place going alone.
Also the pricing says 13,000 yen ([URL]https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/drinks-menu/[/URL]), but first time visitor is only 7,000.
Latest Special First-Time Offer: 40 Minutes for Just 7,000 Yen (Tax and Service Included)!
For only 7,000, I might muster the courage to go.
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Oppai Pubs. Luxe
[QUOTE=Bribs000;2959483]I took a look at Luxe's website and they look extremely high-end, which is kind of intimidating.
I would feel out of place going alone.
For only 7,000, I might muster the courage to go.[/QUOTE]Think of it as a strip club that also serves beer and compliments. I recommend buying drinks, compared to a US strip club it costs almost nothing. You can buy every girl a drink and it would still be just over $100 which will barely get you a 10 minute dance in the US. In the US it's generally with no kissing and licking. I'll summarize my POV. I go to 24-hour Manzoku info shop and ask them to take me to Luxe (look for 24 with privacy curtains or 18 UP, then you know it's naughty inside). The staff calls on the phone to Luxe and say "Can I introduce you a new customer? He is a Japanese speaking foreigner" As long as the club is not full, the answer is yes. The ideal time is maybe 8 pm or 9 pm when it's not packed but there are girls showing up, no different than some strip clubs in the US. They lead me up the elevator and the Manzoku guy hands me off to the Luxe staff and gets a receipt. I pay the Luxe guy, he explains the rules in perfect English, has me gargle mouthwash, maybe a hand sanitizer. Some shops ask if you need to use the restroom since now is the best time. Sometimes if I show up a bit early, there are not enough girls and they apologize and give you snacks and beer to wait. This can happen if you go very early or very late, or it's random. Soon, a cheerful girl shows up and sits next to me. It starts out like a hostess club where she introduces herself and asks about you with compliments, but you can touch them and they will touch you. Of course she says my Japanese is sugoi and off we go.
There is a range of service level but most girls are in the middle. At Luxe in particular they have a lot of foreigners (first time I went it was mostly foreigners) so the first girl says what English she knows to me to cheer me up and show off how cute she is. In her case it works, she's not exactly my type but her smile and attitude are a big turn on. She is actually fun to talk to without even licking her. I ask if she would please hop on me? Of course she can! I try not to crank it up right away, we get 10 minutes per girl. So I put my hands on her and feel her body shape, give a compliment on what I like. Oh by the way, can you take your top off too for me also? Of course she can! She knows what I'm here for. Oh my, you have cute tits I say. Can I kiss them, is that okay? Sure, go ahead. I just kiss her on the mouth next, it's LFK with most girls. If seems comfortable with me, I kiss her neck too. Never be rough and she'll take care of you. She brings up the topic of can I buy her a drink. Sure I say. I say I'm new to this club just want to make sure how much it costs (I'm 99% sure just confirming). She says and it's no problem. I buy every girl a drink these days. There are much more expensive drinks but you won't accidentally buy them at a Japanese shop.
I get two more girls of varying cuteness and tits. But always leave after the 3rd girl politely saying "I got to go, my friends are waiting" (they are not). As you note, extending another 40 minutes costs 50%-100% as much at some of these clubs. But if I see a girl I really like, I do nominate her to "keep" her. This is actually good value because normally there is downtime but if you nominate her you get a girl you like (which is worth paying for) and you just keep going rather than introduce yourself again. I once did 3 hours with a girl I couldn't believe how cute she was. What am I even doing with her. I keep maybe 1 in 6 girls, but I'm really into Japanese women. Other guys might not be so impressed with most.
BTW I notice after seeing maybe a dozen girls at Luxe, 1 girl didn't want to go topless if you don't buy them a drink. Whereas a few girls will actively ask to hop on you and go topless before you ask. Some girls ask for a drink early, others after they go topless. There's all kinds of ways, so don't feel bad if your first or second girl throws you off. That's why they send you 3 girls, play it cool you are the customer you are god. If you get even 1 girl you really love, I call that a win. It's the whole point of the club. Get her card or extend and keep her. I will say the other "must speak Japanese" oppai pubs are a step up from Luxe. Luxe is just a starter one that is foreigner friendly. As others posted, there is some leeway with the other clubs. I got into my first one with 3 months of Japanese but it was super slow and probably why. You might save your receipt as proof to enter other clubs. When I show a girl's card, I'm given instant admission without even the Japanese test. They are just trying to weed out bums and problem customers.
I have never once paid 13 K yen. I have always been a "first time visitor" paying the early bird 6,000 or normal intro of 8,000. Several tactics: a) Go to the 24-hour Manzoku info shops dotting Kabukicho and ask them to take you to Luxe. Surprisingly, they match the best rate which means 6 K early bird or 8 K normal. Intense competition does this. B) For your second visit, take any card a girl you liked gave you. It should offer a discount and will nominate her. But only if you really like her. C) Go to the 24 hour Manzoku shop for your 2nd visit. You can say straight up this is your 2nd time. The guy called Luxe and asked can we introduce a guy 2nd time using the 1st time rate? Since it was not busy, the answer was yes. Maybe won't work if they're packed. D) Go to a different Manzoku shop and have them introduce you as 1st time. I did this and by chance new staff took me in at Luxe anyways. But I don't think they would have cared, if it wasn't busy.
I suppose having a 3rd party staff introduce you to Luxe helped me feel less intimated going alone. But it is a common feeling going to strip clubs alone, until you realize most guys there are exactly the same. Nobody knows you, who cares. Always ignore the touts especially the Nigerians in Shinjuku. Follow this one advice and it is perfectly good and safe.
I wrote a few other things about oppai pubs:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927559&viewfull=1#post2927559[/URL]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927664&viewfull=1#post2927664[/URL]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927688&viewfull=1#post2927688[/URL]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927714&viewfull=1#post2927714[/URL]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2929014&viewfull=1#post2929014[/URL]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2936662&highlight=oppai#post2936662[/URL]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2938754&viewfull=1#post2938754[/URL]
Attached are photos from Hosekinobako and Leicester. Their girls are slightly better on average but requires some Japanese speaking (I was not the only foreigner there). Last photo is from a shop one girl worked at, she did not upload her photo for the oppai pub site. With the Leicster lineup photo I recognize several girls, those are the actual girls who work there plus a ton more. There is quite the turnover so many girls are just started, always.
First photo is Rito who is amazing, she did everything I asked without hesitation. I'm a normal guy and I want to see her beautiful legs, so she takes her heels off for me to feel her feet too. I got her card and nominated her next time (girls don't work every day so no guarantee). The whole staff announced it and called her over to me lol
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Had a great time with Junka Kamiki from Tokyo Amateur Escorts. Website pictures are amazingly close to what she actually looks like (see comparison between their pic and my pic below).
Walked in their Shibuya office. Guy seemed to remember me, had a new recommendation. At 22 years old she's fresh and perky as it gets. Nice tight body, beautiful face, silky black hair.
This her first adult job, so she is really an amateur! Low level English but it didn't hinder the experience at all. She was really wide eyed and open for it all.
Very submissive girl and actually seems to get into it. I mean, a girl can fake it but this one was dripping wet as soon as I started touching her slit.
Average BJ, very tight and clean hole. Body and beauty was the standout feature.
Paid a little extra for the video / photo option. Definitely worth it for the memories!
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2959850]Had a great time with Junka Kamiki from Tokyo Amateur Escorts. Website pictures are amazingly close to what she actually looks like (see comparison between their pic and my pic below).
Walked in their Shibuya office. Guy seemed to remember me, had a new recommendation. At 22 years old she's fresh and perky as it gets. Nice tight body, beautiful face, silky black hair.
This her first adult job, so she is really an amateur! Low level English but it didn't hinder the experience at all. She was really wide eyed and open for it all.
Very submissive girl and actually seems to get into it. I mean, a girl can fake it but this one was dripping wet as soon as I started touching her slit.
Average BJ, very tight and clean hole. Body and beauty was the standout feature.
Paid a little extra for the video / photo option. Definitely worth it for the memories![/QUOTE]How much did you pay?
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2959611]Think of it as a strip club that also serves beer and compliments. I recommend buying drinks, compared to a US strip club it costs almost nothing. You can buy every girl a drink and it would still be just over $100 which will barely get you a 10 minute dance in the US. In the US it's generally with no kissing and licking. I'll summarize my POV. I go to 24-hour Manzoku info shop and ask them to take me to Luxe (look for 24 with privacy curtains or 18 UP, then you know it's naughty inside). The staff calls on the phone to Luxe and say "Can I introduce you a new customer? He is a Japanese speaking foreigner" As long as the club is not full, the answer is yes. The ideal time is maybe 8 pm or 9 pm when it's not packed but there are girls showing up, no different than some strip clubs in the US. They lead me up the elevator and the Manzoku guy hands me off to the Luxe staff and gets a receipt. I pay the Luxe guy, he explains the rules in perfect English, has me gargle mouthwash, maybe a hand sanitizer. Some shops ask if you need to use the restroom since now is the best time. Sometimes if I show up a bit early, there are not enough girls and they apologize and give you snacks and beer to wait. This can happen if you go very early or very late, or it's random. Soon, a cheerful girl shows up and sits next to me. It starts out like a hostess club where she introduces herself and asks about you with compliments, but you can touch them and they will touch you. Of course she says my Japanese is sugoi and off we go.
[/QUOTE]Excellent advice! I'll be in Tokyo later this month, so I'll report back after my visit. Good call about buying the girls drinks. I'm normally on the frugal side, but when you compare it with US strip clubs, it's definitely a no brainer. Plus the exchange rate is awesome, so why not.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2959850]Had a great time with Junka Kamiki from Tokyo Amateur Escorts. Website pictures are amazingly close to what she actually looks like (see comparison between their pic and my pic below).
Walked in their Shibuya office. Guy seemed to remember me, had a new recommendation. At 22 years old she's fresh and perky as it gets. Nice tight body, beautiful face, silky black hair.
This her first adult job, so she is really an amateur! Low level English but it didn't hinder the experience at all. She was really wide eyed and open for it all.
Very submissive girl and actually seems to get into it. I mean, a girl can fake it but this one was dripping wet as soon as I started touching her slit.
Average BJ, very tight and clean hole. Body and beauty was the standout feature.
Paid a little extra for the video / photo option. Definitely worth it for the memories![/QUOTE]With Delivery Services can you go to an office location to pick a girl for meeting later in evening? Are there girls at the offices you can see in person or is it just the same photos on the website? Website photos for outcall services seem horribly photoshopped in Tokyo, and I'm reading it's common to add at least 5 years to their age listed on website as well. Plus run risk as foreigner of the bait and switch to old lady that seems commonplace. You seem to have good luck with Delivery Services.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2959611]Think of it as a strip club that also serves beer and compliments.
I buy every girl a drink these days. There are much more expensive drinks but you won't accidentally buy them at a Japanese shop.
Nominate her
I have never once paid 13 K yen. I have always been a "first time visitor" paying the early bird 6,000 or normal intro of 8,000. Several tactics: a) Go to the 24-hour Manzoku info shops dotting Kabukicho and ask them to take you to Luxe. Surprisingly, they match the best rate which means 6 K early bird or 8 K normal.
to me lol[/QUOTE]Traveler, couple questions on Luxe.
Confirm do you need some limited Japanese, or you can be English speaker only?
Does nominate her mean you request her 100% remainder of the club time?
Lady drinks seem to be $3000 yen according to their website, so $20 usd. That's pretty expensive isn't it? I get your point about buying them, but they rotate every 10 minutes so I'm wondering if the drink is a good exchange of value. Not even a handjob. LOL.
The sex info shops. Do you pay them a fee or do they get their money through the referral?
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[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2960443]With Delivery Services can you go to an office location to pick a girl for meeting later in evening? Are there girls at the offices you can see in person or is it just the same photos on the website? Website photos for outcall services seem horribly photoshopped in Tokyo, and I'm reading it's common to add at least 5 years to their age listed on website as well. Plus run risk as foreigner of the bait and switch to old lady that seems commonplace. You seem to have good luck with Delivery Services.[/QUOTE]
Your hotel or a love hotel. Many hotels won't support it, but the ones in the RLD like Kabukicho will. Love hotels are very cheap, maybe 4000 yen for 120 minutes depending on the area. You add that onto your budget. You can't meet the girls in person first, you can pick their photo in person or online.
Photoshop is completely different than lying about age. In my experience, DH shops rarely use photoshop though they may use an old photo and choose a flattering photo from a good angle. Then Japanese customers can't complain. Ages can be off but there's no such thing as "add 5 years". I've seen them add exactly 0 years, I've seen them add 15 years. I know, I dated one of the girls and when she debuted at 19 she was really 19. But the website still says 19 now 3 years later. So there is no simple rule about this at all. They can lie as little or as much as they like.
It varies a lot by shop. The shops I like, the girl looks exactly like the photo. Occasionally, even better. But I'm sure other shops don't. DH specifically though, they tend to use more accurate photos on average. The popular shops catering to Japanese rely on repeat customers. It's competitive so the better shops use more accurate photos. But surely new shops pop up all the time, who knows their policy.
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2960444]Traveler, couple questions on Luxe.
Confirm do you need some limited Japanese, or you can be English speaker only?
Does nominate her mean you request her 100% remainder of the club time?
Lady drinks seem to be $3000 yen according to their website, so $20 usd. That's pretty expensive isn't it? I get your point about buying them, but they rotate every 10 minutes so I'm wondering if the drink is a good exchange of value. Not even a handjob. LOL.
The sex info shops. Do you pay them a fee or do they get their money through the referral?[/QUOTE]Luxe is specifically foreigner friendly. My first visit was more than half foreigners. White guys, black guys all speaking English. I prefer to speak at least a little Japanese but at Luxe the girls are used to it so tried to speak English with me. Even though I'm fluent. Even if they only know short phrases. Most Japanese girls can listen and understand basic English vocabulary even if they can't understand full sentences.
You can do what you like, I wrote US strip club guides and they are expensive even though you get different stuff like bjs, hjs, fs. Yet in the US almost none of them will kiss, most won't let you suck their tits, they certainly won't talk half as nice to you other than the sales pitch. And if you want actual hot girls, the prices are kind of a stretch. $200 at least for fs with a HYA at a place like COI for example. Ask those girls how much to tongue kiss and see their answer. Out of 100 girls, there is only one or two legit cute Asians, like Cora in COI. But she is 500 to bang (not including VIP price), still won't kiss you or let you lick her. I used to write the guides.
I find a $20 drink puts the girl in a good mood. You don't have to, you do you. It's just my advice. I find Japanese only clubs like Hosekinobako it doesn't matter as much. But they are not foreigner friendly by default.
The sex info shops gets a finders fee. The rates are generally 1st time customer rates, but you can just keep switching shops. Or if it's a slow time most shops will still okay it. But as a foreigner I'm trying not to stretch my luck on everything. I'm here to see something I can't see in the US.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2960795] Your hotel or a love hotel. Many hotels won't support it, but the ones in the RLD like Kabukicho will. .[/QUOTE]In Tokyo I'm staying at the Granbell Shinjuku so by all accounts they are girl friendly.
And your point about US mongering is well taken. It's ridiculous which is why I never do it here. Seeking from what I hear is up to $500 usd for a avg girl with a bad attitude. Rather read or watch a good football game or match. But nothing that a trip to the mecca of Thailand and then trying Japan won't solve. Japan is tourist first, girls second so looking forward to it regardless. Thanks for the advice.
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Newbie question
Do any of the agencies offer FS? Do they just not talk about it on their websites? Any recommendations for a shop? I'm staying in Ueno. Thanks!
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[QUOTE=LemonHead1;2961448]Do any of the agencies offer FS? Do they just not talk about it on their websites? Any recommendations for a shop? I'm staying in Ueno. Thanks![/QUOTE]It is illegal for an agency to offer FS. So no agency is going to offer it. Some girls might privately in the room. Most won't. Many places will end the session and ban you if you ask for FS.
Many places will offer "AF" which is anal fucking. This is legal in Japan.
AF is on the menu at Tokyo Sexy MILF, Tokyo Amateur Escorts, Tokyo Hentai Club.
Sometimes you pay for AF but in the room the girl just sticks it in the other hole instead. Sometimes you really do get AF. Sometimes they look at your cock, say it's too big, refuse AF, and give you money back.
Just depends.
On the other hand FS is pretty much guaranteed at any soapland you walk into.
Casanova, GFE, and Marine Blue are some soaplands open to foreigners.
This is Japan.
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[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2961340]In Tokyo I'm staying at the Granbell Shinjuku so by all accounts they are girl friendly.
And your point about US mongering is well taken. It's ridiculous which is why I never do it here. Seeking from what I hear is up to $500 usd for a avg girl with a bad attitude. Rather read or watch a good football game or match. But nothing that a trip to the mecca of Thailand and then trying Japan won't solve. Japan is tourist first, girls second so looking forward to it regardless. Thanks for the advice.[/QUOTE]I never understand this. You can pay whatever level you want in Tokyo.
You can get a BBBJCIM for $25 or BBBJ / FS for $125 on the low end.
Or you can spend $5000 on the high end.
The scraps are sent overseas. And it's also illegal in a lot of countries. Not Japan.
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[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2960443]With Delivery Services can you go to an office location to pick a girl for meeting later in evening? Are there girls at the offices you can see in person or is it just the same photos on the website? Website photos for outcall services seem horribly photoshopped in Tokyo, and I'm reading it's common to add at least 5 years to their age listed on website as well. Plus run risk as foreigner of the bait and switch to old lady that seems commonplace. You seem to have good luck with Delivery Services.[/QUOTE]If you go to a place like Tokyo Amateur Escorts the pics are accurate and so are the ages. Also couldn't be easier. Walk in or send a text. Pick a girl. Either have them sent to your hotel (never had a problem bringing girl to any hotel in Tokyo, high end, low end, business hotel -- just tell them come right up to the room or meet in lobby if key card required) or use the love hotel they suggest that is less than 1 minute walk from their store.
It's really one of the easiest places on earth. People make it difficult for some reason. It's sex. It's supposed to be fun.
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[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2961340]In Tokyo I'm staying at the Granbell Shinjuku so by all accounts they are girl friendly.
And your point about US mongering is well taken. It's ridiculous which is why I never do it here. Seeking from what I hear is up to $500 usd for a avg girl with a bad attitude. Rather read or watch a good football game or match. But nothing that a trip to the mecca of Thailand and then trying Japan won't solve. Japan is tourist first, girls second so looking forward to it regardless. Thanks for the advice.[/QUOTE]I've stayed at the granbell. Highly recommend. Very new and close to Golden Gai.
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[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2961340]In Tokyo I'm staying at the Granbell Shinjuku so by all accounts they are girl friendly.
And your point about US mongering is well taken. It's ridiculous which is why I never do it here. Seeking from what I hear is up to $500 usd for a avg girl with a bad attitude. Rather read or watch a good football game or match. But nothing that a trip to the mecca of Thailand and then trying Japan won't solve. Japan is tourist first, girls second so looking forward to it regardless. Thanks for the advice.[/QUOTE]I've stayed at the granbell. Highly recommend. Very new and close to Golden Gai.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2961604]The scraps are sent overseas. And it's also illegal in a lot of countries. Not Japan.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your posts, excellent info always.
I monger jgirls both countries. I'm just sharing my own experiences with Japan, it doesn't mean others will have it. The very worst jgirl in the US was somehow better than the best jgirl in Japan. I even filmed all of them. However, this has to do with the fact that there are so many mediocre shops in Japan willing to hire average girls in their 30's, and there is a ton of turnover of girls who are 20's but not up to par on service yet. So you gotta find a good shop in Japan, and it has to take foreigners. Most are not, is all I'm saying. You know how that is.
The worst jgirl in the US was cute and early 20s, attached photo below. Let me film absolutely everything. I was pretty happy but she didn't have quite the energy and charm other jgirls had. I'd even repeat with her. Two other jgirls starred in porn, but also young. I've passed 10 jgirls and will film my next one soon.
I got great service and in any case spent many years visiting glass booths, Shin Okubo (not Okubo park), and other places similar to Tobita, where you got maximum looks at least. For me, it was actually way better than soap or DH in Japan. Again, just my personal experience I believe others will be very happy with DH. People still PM'd me 5 years after they closed so I had to make this post:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4192-Shin-Okubo-and-Koganecho-Hinodecho-areas!!&p=2927973&viewfull=1#post2927973[/URL]
To be clear I only see jgirls at korgs where they have solid standards. Maybe that's the point, some shops in both countries have good standards, some do not. You'll see my first post to Japan was 20 years ago on this site. Ironically I got better experiences with kgirls in Japan than jgirls. But next time I visit I'll try out the higher end DH and soaps, I'm sure I'll break my streak then. I just couldn't justify paying 2x to 4x as much. I'd rather go to an oppai pub. I know my preference is unusual but that's my logic.
I found a few girls who toured the US worked at shops in Japan and they all worked at higher end places. Places only a few Japanese would afford, but they're there. It's worth checking out I'm just saying there are a ton of shops that suck on looks / age. It sure doesn't help that at places like Yoshiwara the vast majority won't take foreigners, and the ones that do drop more than half the girls. Even for my Japanese American friend who spoke moderate Japanese, which was pretty ridiculous.
There is fun to be had in Japan if you focus on the better shops is what I'm saying. But all the scraps are in Japan, too. In the US they openly advertise FS, bb, video. They will never advertise the first two in Japan as you know. The last one ironically is getting more popular thanks to the US. What a time, thanks for your update on that we vote with our wallets.
A starter soap like Kira Kira in Yokohama is $112 for 50 minutes, the service is excellent. The girls vary but you can expect a decent girl in her 30's, not a stunner. I recommend it to beginners so they can figure out if they want to drop $200 to $300 on the higher end shops with better looking girls. On DH including Tokyo Amateur specifically, people PM me of spending way more on upcharge, girls are negotiating GPS rates for FS when they think they can. Guys you have to haggle and I hate to say it but most girls will take a lot less than what I've been quoted. What they do is take one look at you and figure out what they'll ask. I don't have a good solution for this since every girl can ask different. A few girls do it for free, most girls should do it for 1 man if not 2. But they'll ask anything they think they can get.
The worst thing about Japan is the foreigner discrimination and English requirement. But as you know, foreigner-friendly places are getting more popular. But still not the norm. It is the single most common feedback of people who visit, apart from GPS quotes behind closed doors. Guys are being quoted 3 man and 4 man on top of the original fee for fs. Don't pay that. It is a long post explaining how to negotiate, but I would hold firm on less.
They don't do that in the US. And they let you film. I wrote the guides.
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Several places in Japan have an option for filming. Tokyo Amateur Escorts, Tokyo Hentai Club, etc. They're open to foreigners too.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2959850]Had a great time with Junka Kamiki from Tokyo Amateur Escorts. Website pictures are amazingly close to what she actually looks like (see comparison between their pic and my pic below).
Walked in their Shibuya office. Guy seemed to remember me, had a new recommendation. At 22 years old she's fresh and perky as it gets. Nice tight body, beautiful face, silky black hair.
This her first adult job, so she is really an amateur! Low level English but it didn't hinder the experience at all. She was really wide eyed and open for it all.
Very submissive girl and actually seems to get into it. I mean, a girl can fake it but this one was dripping wet as soon as I started touching her slit.
Average BJ, very tight and clean hole. Body and beauty was the standout feature.
Paid a little extra for the video / photo option. Definitely worth it for the memories![/QUOTE]Funny, I just saw her a couple of days ago myself. Picked her from the online lineup because of her time availability at 0900. Nice young lady. Whimpering orgasm when DATY. Allowed for the extras so enjoyed the tightness. She is so tiny it made my Johnson look huge LOL. Was outcall to my hotel in Shinjuku (Hilton) with zero issues, good comms with the store.
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[QUOTE=ChrisUcla;2961986]Funny, I just saw her a couple of days ago myself. Picked her from the online lineup because of her time availability at 0900. Nice young lady. Whimpering orgasm when DATY. Allowed for the extras so enjoyed the tightness. She is so tiny it made my Johnson look huge LOL. Was outcall to my hotel in Shinjuku (Hilton) with zero issues, good comms with the store.[/QUOTE]Great to hear. If you are comfortable sharing, what did she charge for FS? The shop itself doesn't want to know or have anything to do with it. Same deal as the VIP in a US strip club, the club manager has to pretend nothing is going on in VIP and doesn't want to know. But we are allowed to post it here for other customers. On the sister site USAG, this is how we put power into the hands of customers to get the best rates with the best girls. Through intel.
Many DH girls will take 1 man or 2 man for FS, but some will ask for 3 or 4 knowing some of us have money. A few really do charge that much, a few don't do it at all. So some guys simply looked for Anal as an option and paid for it, then oops got into the wrong hole without having to negotiate the tip again. I get PMs from guys getting asked 3 or 4 man for FS. Probably from girls who would have been happy for less, but no way to know without negotiating or sharing intel. Hope that makes sense, raising awareness is the goal here. At soap you don't have to tip the girl, you'll get FS it's included.
BTW, 98% of questions asked here about soap and delivery health are answered by this worker in this interview. I've bookmarked where she explains the exact legal situation in Japan:
[URL]https://youtu.be/oyn-qEYUn68?t=1307[/URL]
She answers a hundred questions asked by us in this interview. Why don't they advertise FS? Can you expect FS in soap? Can you expect FS in DH? How is FS negotiated in DH? Why do girls show their faces more on DH? Why does DH even exist? What are nomination fees? LINE? Special restrictions? Anal? Foreigner restrictions? Why? What do girls think of foreigners? Why are some girls not okay with foreigners? How is a girl's menu determined? How much are girls paid? What is the turnover rate? Why? What is the relation of JAV to fuzoku? How important are regulars? Age limit for SW? Unpleasant experience examples? Legal status of shops? Underground shops? Customer ages? Ideal customers? Course options? Overnights? Recruitment? A lot more.
In a different interview, she mentions sometimes she charges fs different depending on the guy. A few guys get it free, but most pay 1 or 2 man. Every girl has a different policy. It's one of the advantages of soapland, Tobita, and jgirls in the US, no negotiation everything is upfront.
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[QUOTE=ChrisUcla;2961986]Funny, I just saw her a couple of days ago myself. Picked her from the online lineup because of her time availability at 0900. Nice young lady. Whimpering orgasm when DATY. Allowed for the extras so enjoyed the tightness. She is so tiny it made my Johnson look huge LOL. Was outcall to my hotel in Shinjuku (Hilton) with zero issues, good comms with the store.[/QUOTE]Nice! Definitely a petite one with a tiny slot. Hirano Saya and Setsuna Higashino are two more with little pink holes.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2961999]Great to hear. If you are comfortable sharing, what did she charge for FS? The shop itself doesn't want to know or have anything to do with it. Same deal as the VIP in a US strip club, the club manager has to pretend nothing is going on in VIP and doesn't want to know. But we are allowed to post it here for other customers. On the sister site USAG, this is how we put power into the hands of customers to get the best rates with the best girls. Through intel.
[/QUOTE]The first girl I picked from the shop a few months ago charged 20 k (well, I said 20 and she agreed) for the add-on, while reminding me that it was illegal. I said that I wouldn't say anything if she didn't LOL. When discussing the add on with this second young lady I asked if 10 k was ok and she agreed. She also said that she would never bring it up because it is illegal, and that she'd been counseled by the shop once because somehow the shop found out that she had brought up extra fun possibilities. As always, YMMV and best of luck to all of us to enjoy what we enjoy. Be kind, it goes a long way!!
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[QUOTE=ChrisUcla;2962136]The first girl I picked from the shop a few months ago charged 20 k (well, I said 20 and she agreed) for the add-on, while reminding me that it was illegal. I said that I wouldn't say anything if she didn't LOL. When discussing the add on with this second young lady I asked if 10 k was ok and she agreed. She also said that she would never bring it up because it is illegal, and that she'd been counseled by the shop once because somehow the shop found out that she had brought up extra fun possibilities. As always, YMMV and best of luck to all of us to enjoy what we enjoy. Be kind, it goes a long way!![/QUOTE]Thank you, great info especially with a recent data point. Negotiating can be tricky because the typical guy is new to this and might cave if a girl asked for a higher number, thinking he might lose his chance if he tries to haggle. But knowing that most girls take 10 k or 20 k, it's best to do as you did and give the number yourself first. Instead of asking "How much". Both girls took your offer, that's my experience most of the time. Even if the 10 k girl asked for 20 k, that's still within your expectations.
Being kind is important as you say, make the girl feel safe and comfortable and negotiation shouldn't be hard. Both of you can have a good time and if you like the girl enough, you can get her LINE and invite her over when she is not working. Only do this if you really like the girl and her rate, make sure it is on her day off then nobody can complain. Otherwise, there are other girls you can see and you'll eventually find a better.
I want to help others who might be new to negotiating behind closed doors. We can learn a lot from US strip club negotiation tactics. In COI (City of Industry) 80% of girls do FS, and of those the vast majority will take 200. But certainly they'll ask guys for more if they think they can. So I will bring it up with the girl halfway through our VIP, when I am hard and ready. I'm careful to give the vibe of "I don't really need it" and it's just a spontaneous idea, for 200. Sometimes the girl speaks first, asking "Can I offer you more?" and I directly say I'll give her 200 for sex. Don't say "How much", which can end up higher. The last 4 girls all took 200 without hesitation or negotiation, it's their normal rate and they know if they haggle I really might back out and say nevermind. I actually would have backed out, which makes it easy to convey that vibe. Girls don't want to embarrass themselves to ask for 400 when you said 200, if they already think you'll say no. The VIP itself is anywhere from 120 to 180, it's fully nude and you can have a lot of fun touching her all over without FS. Hope that makes sense.
I've known guys at COI who brag about getting away with 100 or 120 for FS, but that was years ago and not a lot of girls do that anymore. I'm sure a few girls will still take it but not the better girls, and you'll have to walk away from many to get that. But their tactic was to say "That's all they have", and they mentally dig in by not bringing a dollar more in their pockets so they don't mistakenly give in to a higher number. Guys are free to try their own method, I just want to lay out all the options here. There's been many years of discussion on the USAG forum to really narrow down exactly what we should pay girls. We are here to share info. Remember that even though shops don't want to know about it, by the same token they are perfectly fine with FS happening "as long as they don't know". Exactly how a high mileage strip club works.
There are some young beautiful girls where it's going to be 400 or GPS territory. A few girls like Stormy and Cora could demand it, they were exceptionally good looking. Key word being exception. Their photos attached below just so we're clear what it takes to charge more than 200. Most girls can't and don't look anywhere as good as these two. Just how it is.
On the USAG sister site, we had a great ecosystem of mongers sharing intel on how much they paid. All the data points made it easier for us to go in to VIP and not overpay. I used to ask girls "how much" and got quoted numbers from 200 to 1000! Girls play hardball once they think you can pay more than usual. While you can't guarantee that saying a number first will work, it is better than asking how much because the latter implies you're flexible even if you're not. In Japan, working girls have often told me they charge 10 k or 20 k. I'm sure there are exceptions, plus girls who do it for free and girls who don't do it at all. As I said, I had PMs from people who got quoted a lot more, so sharing intel is one way to improve that. Maybe girls figure tourists can pay more, but that can probably be solved by these tactics.
Attached are two COI strippers who can charge 400 to bang even when 80% of girls charge 200. Stormy and Cora. Early 20's HYA. There are girls that will take 100 but you don't want to see them.
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EuroGirlsEscort independent girls. How to tell if scam?
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/rishi/763203/?list=vw5ckn[/URL]
Saw this smoking hot girl listing in Tokyo; asked her if she's staying in Tokyo for a few days and she said yes. Then same day she changed her listing from Tokyo to Israel??
Is this a scam? She has a verified tag. Is it too good to be true? She looks more like a model than an escort.
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[QUOTE=AsapRocky;2962238][URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/rishi/763203/?list=vw5ckn[/URL]
Saw this smoking hot girl listing in Tokyo; asked her if she's staying in Tokyo for a few days and she said yes. Then same day she changed her listing from Tokyo to Israel??
Is this a scam? She has a verified tag. Is it too good to be true? She looks more like a model than an escort.[/QUOTE]
It's a scam. You don't need to ask other people to figure that out, she changed her location, and lots of scammers like 'her' exist. They will probably ask you for a deposit and never show. There are other variations but they all end up asking you for money without meeting. You've made a lot of posts asking the same question about an eurogirlsescort ad but the answer is the same:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2950261&viewfull=1#post2950261[/URL] Yes, a scam
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2950183&viewfull=1#post2950183[/URL] Yes, a scam
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2950163&viewfull=1#post2950163[/URL] Yes, a scam
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949757&viewfull=1#post2949757[/URL] Yes, a scam
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949574&viewfull=1#post2949574[/URL] Yes, a scam
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949392&viewfull=1#post2949392[/URL] Yes, a scam
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949146&viewfull=1#post2949146[/URL] Yes, a scam
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949104&viewfull=1#post2949104[/URL] Yes, a scam
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2948908&viewfull=1#post2948908[/URL] Yes, a scam
The best solution is to find a shop you like and stick with them. I've run into scammers myself and it is just a waste of time. Why do people fall for them? Well, they put up hot pictures. This quote by you perfectly sums it up:
[I]Now I can't trust verified girls from Eurogirlsescort, since some fakes still have a verified tag. Now, I notice another thing: independent girls are much much hotter than agency girls. I wonder if majority of independent girls are mostly fakes / scams. That would be unfortunate because I find them much much hotter so I may have to settle for agency girls.[/I] - AsapRocky
Wise words. There is no solution to the fake account problem, it's the risk with independents. They will never actually show btw they will just ask you to send money. They are nowhere near Japan. All they need is 1 in 20 people to fall for it.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2962365]It's a scam. You don't need to ask other people to figure that out, she changed her location, and lots of scammers like 'her' exist. They will probably ask you for a deposit and never show. There are other variations but they all end up asking you for money without meeting. You've made a lot of posts asking the same question about an eurogirlsescort ad but the answer is the same:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2950261&viewfull=1#post2950261[/URL] Yes, a scam
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2950183&viewfull=1#post2950183[/URL] Yes, a scam
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2950163&viewfull=1#post2950163[/URL] Yes, a scam
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949757&viewfull=1#post2949757[/URL] Yes, a scam
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949574&viewfull=1#post2949574[/URL] Yes, a scam
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949392&viewfull=1#post2949392[/URL] Yes, a scam
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949146&viewfull=1#post2949146[/URL] Yes, a scam
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949104&viewfull=1#post2949104[/URL] Yes, a scam
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2948908&viewfull=1#post2948908[/URL] Yes, a scam
The best solution is to find a shop you like and stick with them. I've run into scammers myself and it is just a waste of time. Why do people fall for them? Well, they put up hot pictures. This quote by you perfectly sums it up:
[I]Now I can't trust verified girls from Eurogirlsescort, since some fakes still have a verified tag. Now, I notice another thing: independent girls are much much hotter than agency girls. I wonder if majority of independent girls are mostly fakes / scams. That would be unfortunate because I find them much much hotter so I may have to settle for agency girls.[/I] - AsapRocky
Wise words. There is no solution to the fake account problem, it's the risk with independents. They will never actually show btw they will just ask you to send money. They are nowhere near Japan. All they need is 1 in 20 people to fall for it.[/QUOTE]Ok I was a bit in denial.
What website can I find real girls of model quality like the pictures they have?
I find that legitimate girls are not as hot as those models they've shown.
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[QUOTE=AsapRocky;2962386]Ok I was a bit in denial.
What website can I find real girls of model quality like the pictures they have?
I find that legitimate girls are not as hot as those models they've shown.[/QUOTE]It's kind of a contradiction. There are few model level girls actually working, I hope that's obvious to everyone. But of those girls, most of them don't use real photos for privacy. So when you see clear model level photos, it's fake. Hope that makes sense.
I've mentioned before most of the girls at this shop photo accurate:
[URL]https://gingira.jp/gal.html[/URL]
[URL]https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html[/URL]
But if you want 100% foreigner friendly for every girl on staff, there are sites others have posted like Tokyo Amateur and such. However, those girls are not going to post model level photos. Either because 95% of them aren't model level or because the 5% of those who are are never going to post their real photos!
I know because I've met girls from those shops, only they were working at a different shop such as in the US. When I look up their photo on the website, it has photoshop or other edits. Not to make them look better or worse, but simply for privacy. Their photos give an accurate representation of the girl. Can't be said for some other shops.
There are shops with even better girls, including JAV stars. Like Tora no Ana. But don't bother, you should speak Japanese and there is a ranking system for girls where you have to book their entry-tier girls first before being approved to see their better girls like AIKA. But if you have the time and can speak enough Japanese, it's possible to book some JAV stars after ranking up their system as a customer.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7036765&viewfull=1#post7036765[/URL]
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My woman from Tokyo
I've been following this thread with interest. There's lots of very useful information for first timers in Tokyo / Japan. I've been to Tokyo a few times and only managed one successful monger, and it was a tout who led me to a Chinese woman who looked like I was her 10th customer of the day and she was basically a starfish. That was at least ten years ago. The info below about the two Soapies with Japanese girls dedicated to foreigners is interesting and alluring. However, after reading all the below, and reviewing the websites of GFE and Hentai, as far as I can tell, $200-400 USD for a CBD at best, and maybe, and only if you're lucky, a bit more, seems a waste of time and money. The hostesss bars are a sucker's paradise (or licker's paradise), but hardly worth it to me as there's no release after the build up. Just a lot of money spent (yes, others have a different view). I was seriously considering another attempt this week, but I think after reading all this and looking at those two websites, I'll pass and wait for Thailand coming up soon after. Maybe Tinder or similar would be a better shot for a Tokyo hook up.
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[QUOTE=RonnieMonger;2962522]I've been following this thread with interest. There's lots of very useful information for first timers in Tokyo / Japan. I've been to Tokyo a few times and only managed one successful monger, and it was a tout who led me to a Chinese woman who looked like I was her 10th customer of the day and she was basically a starfish. That was at least ten years ago. The info below about the two Soapies with Japanese girls dedicated to foreigners is interesting and alluring. However, after reading all the below, and reviewing the websites of GFE and Hentai, as far as I can tell, $200-400 USD for a CBD at best, and maybe, and only if you're lucky, a bit more, seems a waste of time and money. The hostesss bars are a sucker's paradise (or licker's paradise), but hardly worth it to me as there's no release after the build up. Just a lot of money spent (yes, others have a different view). I was seriously considering another attempt this week, but I think after reading all this and looking at those two websites, I'll pass and wait for Thailand coming up soon after. Maybe Tinder or similar would be a better shot for a Tokyo hook up.[/QUOTE]Best to avoid any street touts in Japan. Also best to avoid Chinese / Korean providers.
If you want guaranteed legal FS for cheap you can go to a low-end soapland like Ikebukuro Bunny Girls for 20000 Yen which is closer to 100 USD than 200 USD. GFE soapland also has a quicky option for the same price.
If you want cheap legal blowjob you can go to Jan Jan. For $25 USD.
If you want cheap legal BJ with anal you can go to Tokyo Amateur for 27,000 Yen. That's well under 200 USD.
Lot of options if you are cheap.
But even better options if you have some money to spend.
At the same time you can easily spend 7000 Baht short time on a go go dancer in Thailand. What's that? A little over 200 USD.
I have to say I don't understand why someone would go to the world's 3rd largest economy if they were on a limited budget though. Or why someone would travel at all. If I was hurting financially I can't imagine going half way around the world to pay for sex. IMHO.
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[QUOTE=AsapRocky;2962386]Ok I was a bit in denial.
What website can I find real girls of model quality like the pictures they have?
I find that legitimate girls are not as hot as those models they've shown.[/QUOTE]Stick with a trusted and legal Japanese agency, not fly by nighters who posts on random websites.
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You're making several wrong assumptions.
I'm not afraid to spend money. But want to assure I'm getting "value" for my money. That was my point. And I'm not traveling 'half way around the world' to Japan just for sex or p4 p, I'm passing through on my way to guaranteed value for money elsewhere. This is a stopover. IMO it's gotten a bit better here for the average westerner over last 20 years, but it has a long way to go. It's still highly xenophobic in every day life. And the sex scene, while improving, is still run in the shadows for foreigners where as Japanese men have no such concerns and their SPs know to perform in every way to satisfy Japanese men. Nothing off the table. You mentioned a number of places I wasn't aware of before in your post below. Are these all open to westerners (who don't speak Japanese)? Or only places you and a few of your American Japanese friends manage to talk your way into?
Thanks.
RM.
[QUOTE=RickRock;2962604]Best to avoid any street touts in Japan. Also best to avoid Chinese / Korean providers.
If you want guaranteed legal FS for cheap you can go to a low-end soapland like Ikebukuro Bunny Girls for 20000 Yen which is closer to 100 USD than 200 USD. GFE soapland also has a quicky option for the same price.
If you want cheap legal blowjob you can go to Jan Jan. For $25 USD.
If you want cheap legal BJ with anal you can go to Tokyo Amateur for 27,000 Yen. That's well under 200 USD.
Lot of options if you are cheap.
But even better options if you have some money to spend.
At the same time you can easily spend 7000 Baht short time on a go go dancer in Thailand. What's that? A little over 200 USD.
I have to say I don't understand why someone would go to the world's 3rd largest economy if they were on a limited budget though. Or why someone would travel at all. If I was hurting financially I can't imagine going half way around the world to pay for sex. IMHO.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RonnieMonger;2962697]I'm not afraid to spend money. But want to assure I'm getting "value" for my money. That was my point. And I'm not traveling 'half way around the world' to Japan just for sex or p4 p, I'm passing through on my way to guaranteed value for money elsewhere. This is a stopover. IMO it's gotten a bit better here for the average westerner over last 20 years, but it has a long way to go. It's still highly xenophobic in every day life. And the sex scene, while improving, is still run in the shadows for foreigners where as Japanese men have no such concerns and their SPs know to perform in every way to satisfy Japanese men. Nothing off the table. You mentioned a number of places I wasn't aware of before in your post below. Are these all open to westerners (who don't speak Japanese)? Or only places you and a few of your American Japanese friends manage to talk your way into?[/QUOTE]Maybe I can help. I'm the same way, I only care about value. I can bang great jgirls in the USA now, at long last. All I need is to be able to speak English. Whereas the requirement in Japan was I should speak Japanese. If you were in the USA and could only speak Japanese, they would never let you see a jgirl. I know this for a fact. None of the direct shop staff speak a word of Japanese so they can't screen you for trouble, it's the same thing.
I only go to Japan for "everything else" besides fs. To be clear what that is, it's 80% of this list:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666#post2946666[/URL]
Japan is the best at most of that list. When you go to Japan, you order sushi not McDonald's. Order what they are good at, that's how you get good value. I also go to Japan for friends, sightseeing, food, and to meet jgirls I met working in the USA. Girls I know who are beautiful, really cool, and sexually compatible. A few work for the very foreigner-only shops mentioned, but I meet them by LINE not the shop. I would NOT go to Japan just for sex, but I think if you happen to be there on your way, makes sense to try something and get good value. I've gone to Japan 20 times in 20 years, my advice is to never go to non-Japanese establishments. No matter your language level.
Tokyo Hentai Club, GFE, and Tokyo Amateur are all examples of "foreigner only" services. They are newer. I've long commented about changing trends, way more shops are foreigner friendly than years ago. But it is still the minority. However there are now some places where most of the customers do not speak any Japanese. English, Chinese, and Korean are the three most common languages catered to. At Luxe oppai pub sometimes the majority were English speakers, I assume Americans or British. All races white, black, Asian foreigners.
My first post here on ISG was in 2004, 20 years ago. I said it back then and I say it now the same, never follow the touts especially the Nigerian ones. You may have missed the reason. Nigerian touts are notorious scammers who will take you to a bar and drug you if they think they can. Or scam you normally otherwise. The other Asian touts, many who are not Japanese, at least don't do this. But they do B+S and in any case their shops are no good. Just to be clear, this was my advice even when I could barely speak any Japanese, posting 20 years ago. Do not follow the touts. The best you can hope for is a tourist trap. Btw, this is the exact same reason you don't follow certain tuk-tuks in Thailand.
I did find a Chinese tout and at least he wasn't a scammer like the Nigerians. But 9 of the shops he took me to fucking sucked. Just like your experience. 1 of them was legit good. I wrote about this before. Not following RLD touts is literally the one and only thing I warn people not to do in Japan. I warned about it 20 years ago, I'm warning about it again now.
I had fun not speaking Japanese, getting into the few Japanese establishments I could. This was before places that actually catered to foreigners, like Tokyo Amateur or Luxe oppai pub. I got really great value for my money, an oppai pub was 10 times cheaper than a US strip club, and I could kiss the girls. Since I like Asians, they were way hotter to me. Important point, if you don't like Asians it's not a good value. The things I did in Japan I would not do in Thailand, but that's just my preference. I know most guys aren't into oppai pubs, they want FS. I have consistently and repeatedly said Japan is not great for FS as a travel destination. You can find 20 posts of mine explaining why, so I'm not going to repeat it all. But for those who are already in Japan, it makes sense and I like to help people and show them how to get the most value for it.
By the way, a Nigerian tout grabbed me hard by the arm as I walked past them. I was minding my own business walking Kabukicho and since it was late hours with no business one guy did just that in desperation. I yelled at him loudly to let me go and he did. I guess he is used to guys who just cave in and listen to his sales pitch like this, WTF. I was pretty surprised but later met and found other people this happened to. I also saw 4 Nigerian touts grab a woman's purse and run, 3 of them lookouts. In Roppongi I met plenty of nicer Nigerians, club bouncers and staff, perfect gentlemen. The crooks all work in Kabukicho apparently. I've written about all this before. You are safe if you just keep walking, especially before midnight.
To lighten the mood, here are some photos of Gingira Tokyo girls who have a big O next to 'international customer' meaning you and I can book them. Check the weekly schedule since girls don't work always. Things have changed since years back, now the majority of girls are O. Triangle means a maybe. X means they only take tiny dicks, so don't be jealous.
[URL]https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html[/URL]
[URL]https://gingira.jp/gal.html[/URL]
[URL]https://gingira.jp/movie/ALL[/URL]
The girls randomly featured are: Aloha, Riria, Iroha, An, Ere, Riria, Reo, Seika. Feel free and visit them before I do and loosen them up, I will try to visit in Spring and clean up.
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Tokyo tips
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2946666]Everyone wants something a little different. Are you looking for FS or sampling something unique? Japan has a lot of different levels of play. I'll try to summarize them below. My hope is to visit Japan again May 2025 but not confirmed yet.
[B]Shop types[/B]
Maid cafe = No alcohol. Girls in costumes come and call you master and serve you curry and other simple dishes, etc. You can pay for a polaroid with them and play other games and activities. There are many variants based on them, often based on the type of costume. But the basic idea is the same. Very tame.
Hostess club = Old fashioned club where you talk to ladies and get served alcohol and compliments. They light your cigarettes, remember your birthday, laugh at your jokes. Vast majority are no touch but girls might gently touch you. Some offer takeout UTR but that is between you and the girl only and not the main draw. This is for older gentlemen that want to be entertained and served with reverence the way their wife at home doesn't.
Girls bar = This is a new style club where you chat with girls and drink alcohol. Girl is similar to hostess and they rotate, or sometimes they are the bartender. Girls tend to be cuter and younger, with less expectation on talking skill. They laugh at your jokes, it is more friendly and casual than hostess club. Vast majority are no touch but girls might gently touch you.
Oppai bar = Touching and kissing anything above the waist is allowed including, sucking on tits and kissing the girl. The most common system is 3 girls every 40 minutes. Many sub-variants to this including costumes and themes but the idea is the same. For example there are sexy cabarets where the girls line up on a stage and you pick the girl by number and they call the girl down. Like a girls bar, girls tend to be hotter and younger than hostess clubs.
BJ / HJ bar = There are too many variants to describe, but as I said in the other post there are some that will send you 2 or 3 girls in a row. Some operate more like soapland lite where you have less options than soapland. Sometimes ordered a la carte (ex. The same girl might offer BJ or HJ, upcharge for certain acts, etc.).
Fetish club = There are too many variants to describe, but for example at one shop I walk into a room and 2-3 schoolgirls are blindfolded and chained for me. I can harass them for 5 minutes until I pick which girl to take upstairs. Then it becomes plain old soapland, maybe sumatra the standard course. Another example is where they are on a train complete with special effects in the frosted windows as if you are riding the train. They hold on to the handle and ignore you completely as you harass them.
Delivery Health = You reserve a time (and usually a girl), and then go to a hotel and let them know where to meet. They then come to your place, your hotel, or more often a love hotel. FS is not guaranteed but you can negotiate in the room.
Soapland = Incall, sex is generally guaranteed but technically you are only paying for time (FS is illegal but you get it anyways), so sometimes the girl sees you are a noob and just says "time up". Ask for sex in that case, I've always gotten it.
Streetwalkers / Tachinbo = In some areas girls will stand around and you can take them to your hotel.
There's a lot more but those are the common ones. I mean for example I saw a new one which is called 'robot delivery' where the girl comes to your place to bang but she doesn't say a single word. Sounds like heaven for an introvert.
These options are very regional, with some cities and areas much better and common for certain shops.
[B]Related guides[/B]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927559&viewfull=1#post2927559[/URL] My main guide on oppai pubs, recommend as cheap fun with cute girls and great service you can't have outside of Japan.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927688&viewfull=1#post2927688[/URL] Oppai pubs.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927714&viewfull=1#post2927714[/URL] Oppai pubs.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=6992852&viewfull=1#post6992852[/URL] Handjobs for $13 and blowjobs for $26, very cute girls
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2928099&viewfull=1#post2928099[/URL] More about cheap handjobs and blowjobs (it was a phase for me).
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2933352#post2933352[/URL] FS.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2932207&viewfull=1#post2932207[/URL] FS.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2927621&viewfull=1#post2927621[/URL] Kira Kira, a cheap and foreigner-friendly soap in Yokohama.
[B]Fun in Tokyo region[/B]
If you want a cheap and easy soapland to try out that is foreigner friendly with no gaijin tax, Kira Kira in Yokohama is a good start. They have rule sheets in Japanese, English, Korean, Chinese. There are much more expensive options all around Tokyo.
Walking around busy parts of Japan after 6pm, you are going to see girls holding up signs. You can see in the first photo below 3 girls with signs listing the price hanging on their necks. Like they were puppies on sale. That's hot. It shows it's a 3000 yen "special entry rate" for a girl's bar / pub. If I had to pick two girls, I would pick the girl on the right twice. Just saying.
Girls with signs are most often advertising for girls' bars or maid cafes where you chat with cute girls. Chat only. Girls who don't hold up signs are more often going to be offering somethings else, there are a lot of varieties. For example on a few streets I will encounter Chinese girls calling out "massagu" - massage. Hjs are sometimes possible but the cuter girls tend to only offer massage and the lightest extras. Don't be shy to ask if a girl offers HJ / BJ they will just say so. Walk past them and on many streets I will see newhalfs and such at the end, sometimes with touts. There may also be streetwalkers, sometimes with touts sometimes on their own. There is an etiquette where they may be evenly spaced out so you can talk with them in private. They are used to getting harassed by lookie-loos so they will only respond to serious offers. Do not approach random women, there are known spots. People stand around in Japan all the time, don't assume. Okubo Park in Kabukicho is one of them.
For nampa Shibuya and Roppongi are best. Roppongi especially Friday and Saturday nights at the club areas. It isn't always easy but I picked up girls without planning to, but it can be time consuming. It's not really my thing, I'd rather spend my time having fun and pay to play. Then if I find a shop or girl I like, I can see them whenever I like. Other than FS the options are pretty cheap and easy.
With girls holding up signs, when business is slow like early hours 6 pm-9 pm the girls stand out to advertise so if you pick that girl you get to start with her.
Oppai pubs are where you get 3 girls in 40 minutes, all you can drink beer. Go to Kabukicho in Shinjuku for them. Each girl comes by and you can chat and touch or have them straddle you. I usually start by having them put their legs over mine, some girls will be heels off. Second half they drop their tops and you can kiss them or suck on their tits. You can buy them drinks (basically the way to tip them) or extend with a girl you like. I once extended repeatedly with a girl all night because she was a 10 out of 10 for me, 20 years old. I won't go into details but kissing her was amazing. Depending on if you buy them drinks or extend a girl the price is minimum 6000 yen (if you go before rush our like 9 pm) ranging up to 12000 yen (you buy drinks and extend) per 40 minutes ($40 to $80). You can't get that service at a US strip club for those prices, let along with young girls that flatter you and laugh at your jokes. As I said in my other post one girl hopped on my lap and apologized for being 25 years old. Not the first time I got that, 25 is considered old for an oppai pub. I forgave her.
The reason some hot girls work oppai pubs is it pays double to triple hostess / girl's pub rates without requiring their pussy. There is no tipping but you buy them drinks, and some guys will buy the next level drink which is champagne such as Dom Prignon, coasting about $670. Literally 10 x as much as I was spending just to simp. Or renting a VIP room. So in a way, it's basically speed dating to find a simp! That's where the real money is, if they find those whales they're making more money than even FS work. If the whale is big enough and just starts dating her as a mistress, then even more than US FS work. Some girls do just that and quit a few weeks later. But until they do, you can lick their tits.
Most customers don't realize this is the end game, it's the same way casinos make most of their money off the whales. Every time I went I was amazed that one or two customers among the 10-20 were whales buying Dom Prignon or champagne towers. With the added sparklers and cheering from staff, it made it a bit awkward for me to turn back to my girl and keep sucking on her tits. But I did.
2nd and 3rd photo is Rito from Hosekinobako, the 2nd hottest girl I saw this year. I only post real photos that is her. She has tiny feet she rested bare on my leg, she is a great kisser too. No hesitation for play whatsoever so after she gave me her card I asked for her the next visit. The staff loudly announced it for all the other girls to hear "Rito was nominated, Rito was nominated". Surreal. I do not have a photo for the hottest girl because she had just started. Another girl I made out with for 3 hours, pictured next. She also did not have a shop photo so I included her photo from another shop. The great thing about all you can drink beer and buying the girl drinks you just keep getting more handsome and the girl even better. But she was adorable to start, she was brand new and when kissing would open her eyes and look left and right. I taught her how to kiss better and while you don't touch the girl's bottom unless she invites you, I could press myself against her as she straddled me. She has cute eyes, just wide open the moment we started kissing until we took a break. I'll never forget.
Next photo is the Leicester lineup. Those were the actual girls, I kissed 3 of them. Maybe you can kiss them all. Next is a photo of girls at a girl's pub (this one is a girls' bar where they are the bartenders), faces covered. If you actually go, they will take selfies with you so hiding the face is just a teaser.
The other thing is in Japan there are rip-off prices sky high, either for rich Japanese who care about a luxurious room or gaijin who don't know better and can't speak Japanese. So when you see crazy prices, those are tourist prices and you can ignore them. They don't represent Japan prices (see Kirakira for the lower end of prices basically $125/$181).
At Kirakira Yokohama soapland (FS), the rates are 50 minutes for 18000 yen ($125), 70 minutes for 26000 ($181), which is on the cheaper side for Japan but not far off. Girls range from mid-20's to mid-30's, decent but not like the jgirls we get by a significant gap. The hottest girl there wouldn't even qualify in the US, even though you'd be happy and she'd worship you like a King. Soapland service is good, but not quite kgirl good. But that is still world class to be clear (I consider kgirl service to also be world class, especially the milfs).
One reason I suggest KiraKira is a lot of Tokyo places are either expensive, don't allow foreigners (or many girls don't take foreigners), or charge a hefty foreigner tax. See the 'price list' with orange border below. One is the Japanese price, the other is the foreigner price. You have to pay 60%-80% more for the exact same service, which is already more expensive to begin with. Not at Kira Kira.
Another photo is of the price list at a BJ / HJ shop. It is one girl you pick almost like a soapland lite, then pick your upcharges. These are Tokyo prices, I have seen much better deals in cheaper cities.
[B]Good to be king[/B]
Bonus first photo is of girl from Hadaka no Ousama, real photo said she was 22. Literally anything goes except dick in pussy. You pick 1-3 girls and enter the fun room together. FIV encouraged as long as you are gentle and sanitize.
Hadaka no Ousama translates to "Emperor with no clothes" or "The naked King". The Ousama game in Japanese culture means one person is king and everyone does what they say (like Simon says). Except in this case the King has to be naked. Ask the girls to suck you in alphabetical order, or point and gesture if your Japanese is limited. Issue official proclamations as King. Okay I was young at the time and it was a phase.[/QUOTE]You are legend, thanks a lot in advance.
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[QUOTE=Sylvestor2001;2963316]You are legend, thanks a lot in advance.[/QUOTE]
I want to highlight the exact Manzoku shop I use when I go to Japan. I speak Japanese when I visit but I'm pretty sure English-only is fine. The thing is, the staff there are 3rd party 'neutral' and know 100% which shops will let you in. They make money taking you to the shop you want, they have no relationship with the shop. They want you to be happy and use them again, and I've used them with success for 20 years. This is why you don't need to follow touts (it's a gamble), go to a reputable store. Manzoku took me to Luxe, Leicester, and Hosekinobako which are all walking distance.
So I walk in and I'll look at all their posters on the wall, asking about the oppai pubs and picking one. The staff will make a phone call to the shop and ask "Hi, may I introduce a customer? He is a Japanese speaking foreigner" They only take people to legit Japanese establishments because they rely on repeat visitors. They are upfront with communication, like sometimes the shop might say back "Sorry there will be a 20 minute wait is that okay?" and you decide okay or not. Around 6pm-8pm the wait is because girls are still showing up - you will not pay for the waiting time and can drink free beer and maybe snacks. Around 10pm-1am it will be because I and other guys are cockblocking you, keeping the girls busy. Fair enough right.
Also, Manzoku will get you the best rate by far because it is so competitive. Luxe for example is officially 13k cover charge, don't ever pay it. If I go to Manzoku then it is 6k or 8k "newbie special promo rate", $52. Try kissing three US strippers for $52 total. Note that every oppai pub offers the exact same promo rate because of competition. Imagine if McDonald's, Burger King, and Carl's Junior all offered you their most popular burger for the exact same price of $2.50 as a first time customer. All you do is show up to a 'burger consultant' who walks you to the nearest shop, then the shop gives them back $.50 for the referral. But the burger is really $5 normally. That's how weird it is.
[B]Sorry for being 24[/B]
Of course on 2nd visits you can use any discount card a girl gives you. Use the card for the girl you like, or if the girl isn't there that day they profusely apologize but say you can keep the card (for next time) and they will honor the discounted rate. They repeatedly apologized to me but I'm like man it's all good I don't care just bring me 3 new girls aged 18-24. At Leicester one girl literally apologized for being 24 years old before hopping on me. I forgave her.
One of the 3 girls is usually just my type. I have heard Luxe has a lower success rate for hotties, maybe I love Japanese women so much because I liked every girl. If you don't like Japanese women, don't even go.
This is technically a "first time rate" but if things are slow the Manzoku staff will call the shop and say "May I introduce you to a customer? It's his 2nd time, is it okay?" (to get the promo rate). If you go 6pm-9pm on a weekday, it's probably a yes. They know which shops have Japanese-only (it was maybe 20% of shops so long as you speak Japanese, 70% if you don't) and what other weird race restrictions there are. Their main specialty is referring hostess clubs and oppai pubs, but there is a small section on the wall listing some fetish clubs where you can expect at least bj. Nobody in all of Japan can ever advertise fs, if someone does it's a shady shop and probably not Japanese run.
By the way, check out the Kabukicho Hentai Club web ad. At the bottom it says 'Teens-20s', WTF Japan. They don't give a damn, that's how they roll. But really, when they say 18-20, what they really mean is 20-35. We all know that already, right? Cool.
[B]Navigating Kabukicho[/B]
Google street maps are very useful, but keep in mind they are often 2 years old so things change. Plus google photos are from daytime which looks totally different including things being shuttered. Luxe is not on the google street photos yet since they're from 2022. But from Manzoku you can actually see Luxe, it's 1 minute walk. Hosekinobako is like a 6 minute walk with a street crossing and the guy sucks his teeth lol. Nothing good comes easy. There are multiple Manzoku shops but to find this one I find the central Family Mart and it's really close. Manzoku is the shop with the giant black bat. A different shop photo (pink) was a 'English friendly' information booth but things change all the time. I saw it this year.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/ib6koc4DajqdimHs5[/URL] Manoku information station.
I always remind people that fs (full sex) is not my thing, I go out of curiosity to compare with the USA. See my post in the Yokohama section for Kira Kira which is a good 'first time' experience cheap and you can then decide if you like it or not, low risk. Yokohama station is a 35 minute train ride from Shibuya. I think most people can come out of the experience saying they had fun and it was something very novel and reasonably priced. Others are happy to repeat. Some will 'level up' with other soapland or delivery health.
I still kind of prefer Kira Kira because they are cheap and the service is good. I can get cuter girls at oppai pubs later, maybe I'm weird but that's how I roll. Btw Kira Kira now has an English website for foreigners
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963459&viewfull=1#post2963459[/URL] My new guide on Kira Kira
[URL]https://kirakira.eroticguide.tokyo/[/URL] Kira Kira foreigner portal
[URL]https://kirakira.yokohama/[/URL] Kira Kira Yokohama Japanese site. About 45 minutes from Shibuya by fastest train with a change in lines
[B]Kira Kira soapland in Yokohama for beginners[/B]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2927621&viewfull=1#post2927621[/URL] My first post on ISG in 20 years (since 2004)
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2927767&viewfull=1#post2927767[/URL] Yes, you can pick
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2927911&viewfull=1#post2927911[/URL] Yes, you can bang
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2928088&viewfull=1#post2928088[/URL] Yes, you can stay
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2928224&viewfull=1#post2928224[/URL] Yes, photos are real but real photos still fool
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2928007&viewfull=1#post2928007[/URL] The only thing I don't know
Let's show some love for other shops, both 'foreigner okay' and 'foreigner only'. I am only an expert on oppai pubs not fs, this list here is for your own research of places that other people had success at. For people that already graduated from 'Kira Kira' and want to level up.
[URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/[/URL] Tokyo Amateur Escorts
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/[/URL] Tokyo Hentai Club
[URL]https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html[/URL] Gingira, girls generally young and photo accurate. Trash talking by request
[URL]https://escort-taitanic.com/[/URL] Taitanic Yokohama
[URL]https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/luxe-story/[/URL] Luxe Oppai pub, if you speak no Japanese and wonder what it's like to be Japanese..
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2963461]I want to highlight the exact Manzoku shop I use when I go to Japan. I speak Japanese when I visit but I'm pretty sure English-only is fine. The thing is, the staff there are 3rd party 'neutral' and know 100% which shops will let you in. They make money taking you to the shop you want, they have no relationship with the shop. They want you to be happy and use them again, and I've used them with success for 20 years. This is why you don't need to follow touts (it's a gamble), go to a reputable store. Manzoku took me to Luxe, Leicester, and Hosekinobako which are all walking distance.
Let's show some love for other shops, both 'foreigner okay' and 'foreigner only'. I am only an expert on oppai pubs not fs, this list here is for your own research of places that other people had success at. For people that already graduated from 'Kira Kira' and want to level up.
[URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/[/URL] Tokyo Amateur Escorts
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/[/URL] Tokyo Hentai Club
[URL]https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html[/URL] Gingira, girls generally young and photo accurate. Trash talking by request
[URL]https://escort-taitanic.com/[/URL] Taitanic Yokohama
[URL]https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/luxe-story/[/URL] Luxe Oppai pub, if you speak no Japanese and wonder what it's like to be Japanese..[/QUOTE]Outstanding report, TravelerX, very helpful. I'm headed back to Tokyo for the first time in years, and looking for something different than the Yoshiwara or Jan Jan. I used Hentai Club a number of times years ago when they had some stunning mixed Japanese-Peruvian girls, but the current lineup doesn't look great to me, plus they no longer have the store in Shibuya, and I prefer not to haul my ass all the way to Shinjuku.
I had never heard of Gingira, but it looks like a great lineup. My question though. Is there an actual storefront, or is this takeway / phone ordering only? I could not find any physical location for it, but I prefer to go into the shop and view more photos, and usually there are love hotels nearby. Having them come to my hotel is a bit awkward because of the keycard for the lift.
Thanks for the advice.
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[QUOTE=RonnieMonger;2962697]You mentioned a number of places I wasn't aware of before in your post below. Are these all open to westerners (who don't speak Japanese)? Or only places you and a few of your American Japanese friends manage to talk your way into?[/QUOTE]I'm not Japanese or Asian.
Every place I listed is open to English speaking foreigners.
Even penny pinchers.
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[QUOTE=EdHaskell;2963585]I had never heard of Gingira, but it looks like a great lineup. My question though. Is there an actual storefront, or is this takeway / phone ordering only? I could not find any physical location for it, but I prefer to go into the shop and view more photos, and usually there are love hotels nearby. Having them come to my hotel is a bit awkward because of the keycard for the lift.
Thanks for the advice.[/QUOTE]I know Gingira because of a girl but meet her direct rather than the shop. However because of that and seeing her ad photos and shop updates among other things, I know they are legit. She is 22 for example, quite good looking. I will in the future try their shop for other girls, assuming the girl I'm seeing isn't going to monopolize me (I doubt she will).
If your hotel doesn't support it, you need to book your girl and say the love hotel, then go to the love hotel, check in, and call them to tell them your room number. So you want to plan ahead of time. I can't answer how well they communicate in English but they have an English website with a booking system so it should be okay. This is one benefit of the 'foreigner only' ones. But I'm determined to try other girls next visit so I'll report back some day. As I said, my expertise is in all the middle-action clubs (oppai pubs to fetish), not maid cafes or FS.
I think other experts can explain the DH booking system better (or a foreigner-friendly one's FAQ might do):
[URL]https://camikaze.cc/escort/foreigner-friendly-escorts/[/URL]
See section 7 on the Love Hotel meetup which is common. Shibuya is full of them and it's maybe ~4000 yen for 90 or 120 minutes. Certainly if you're in Shinjuku you can get streetwalkers and bring them back to your hotel direct. I've linked to other reports pages back on that. And I've even picked up regular girls to bring back before. I was a total noob but in Roppongi and I hear Shibuya it's possible. I wrote out what happened, I won't rehash it all look back a few pages.
BTW, Gingira lately has added movie and gravure sections to highlight girls. For those who can't fly to Japan or book but are thirsty nonetheless:
[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1304/gingira/[/URL]
For those who haven't tried any fs in Japan, I do think Kira Kira is a good start. Almost like fast food easy, 70 minutes of play including nuru. The girls are decent looking, not amazing but good enough, the price is reasonable and the service is good, they will worship you. I never quite get tired of it. They've raised the prices to 31k for 70 minutes ($200) which is still cheap and includes fs without negotiation.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963631&viewfull=1#post2963631[/URL] Kira Kira Yokohama first experience
If you like it, you can level up for more luxurious options in Tokyo whether soapland or delivery health. Attached is a nicer soapland room. You tend to get what you pay for, but reserving a girl can up your chances.
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For those who haven't tried any fs in Japan, I do think Kira Kira is a good start. Almost like fast food easy, 70 minutes of play including nuru. The girls are decent looking, not amazing but good enough, the price is reasonable and the service is good, they will worship you. I never quite get tired of it. They've raised the prices to 31k for 70 minutes ($200) which is still cheap and includes fs without [/QUOTE]So 200 $ is cheap in Tokyo for FS? Any chances to find something cheaper outside Tokyo?
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[QUOTE=JohnWick6969;2963641]So 200 $ is cheap in Tokyo for FS? Any chances to find something cheaper outside Tokyo?[/QUOTE]$200 is cheap for 70 minutes soapland. It's more than just FS in my opinion. Also, Kira Kira is Yokohama, which is 35 minutes from Shibuya of Tokyo. Best to see my journal description of my first Kira Kira experience with Mona. I've repeated since and it's always great service, not just a bang. The course varies but we hopped in the bath and she sucked me (first me up on her knees then me standing), then we did nuru gel play on an inflatable mattress, then normal sex at the bed, then cuddling and chatting. We could make a good connection, anyone who is nice and reasonable might do the same. Since we vibed well I could get her LINE if I wanted to see her again, but I prefer to fly free like a butterfly. So soap involves being worshipped by the girl the whole 70 minutes. I've never once got that at 'just a FS' place, in 20 years. There's a reason people specifically choose soapland, especially older guys.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963631&viewfull=1#post2963631[/URL] My first time to Kira Kira 2023.
Long ago I've been offered FS for $70-$100 in Japan at a corg but the girls weren't to my liking. I believe the right word is ugly, but that's just my experience I visited 10 different corg shops and 9 sucked. So it's not just 'luck' in my opinion. What do I mean by 'just a FS' place? There also used to be glass houses in Yokohama like Amsterdam where you coould pick Chinese girls to bang for $70, I did that many times long ago. But it no longer exists. Girls give you 15 minutes so yes it's cheaper if you ONLY want to bang, but soapland is actually way better for 70 minutes of reverent worship. Plus the glass houses were demolished long ago. Today in the year 2024 what you should do is to pick soapland or delivery health, and it's going to be $200 or more. Each one has its advantage, my other posts compare them.
Here is my post reminding people that glass houses no longer exist in Easter Japan (try Tobita in Osaka for the closest thing):
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4192-Shin-Okubo-and-Koganecho-Hinodecho-areas!!&p=2927973&viewfull=1#post2927973[/URL] The mayor of Yokohama promised to demolish glass houses, then resigned for a hostess scandal
Shin Okubo and Okubo park are not the same place. Shin Okubo is a small koreatown not far from Shinjuku. Okubo park has streetwalkers who may or may not pleasure you at your hotel. If there happens to be a thai girl or someone standing that speaks English, you can invite her back to your room and I and others have no idea what the two of you in private might say or then do. It is a complicated discussion but you are legally safe to do this, Japanese law doesn't punish the john (unless the girl is underage) and in any case does not allow investigation once it becomes private (between just two people). This is a one sentence summary of everything, hope that helps.
Not my thing, but others have written about it. You will just have to read back a few pages. If you aren't willing to do that, it's not for you then.
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Ok thanks a lot for your feedback mate. Very informative.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2963634]I know Gingira because of a girl but meet her direct rather than the shop. However because of that and seeing her ad photos and shop updates among other things, I know they are legit. She is 22 for example, quite good looking. I will in the future try their shop for other girls, assuming the girl I'm seeing isn't going to monopolize me (I doubt she will).
If your hotel doesn't support it, you need to book your girl and say the love hotel, then go to the love hotel, check in, and call them to tell them your room number.
If you like it, you can level up for more luxurious options in Tokyo whether soapland or delivery health. Attached is a nicer soapland room. You tend to get what you[/QUOTE]Sorry, but can you clarify if Gingira has an actual shop, and where it is? I'm not sure if this place is phone only.
I do know of some love hotels around the old THC office in Shibuya, but I don't know Shinjuku as well. But mainly interested in whether Gingira has a walk-in shop. Thanks!
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[QUOTE=JohnWick6969;2963641]So 200 $ is cheap in Tokyo for FS? Any chances to find something cheaper outside Tokyo?[/QUOTE]If you're cheap, Tokyo probably isn't the place for you.
But if you'd RTFF you'd learn that Bunny Girls in Tokyo is 20,000 Yen for 70 minutes and GFE soapland in Kawasaki has a 20,000 Yen option too. Comes out to about $130 for FS.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2963800]If you're cheap, Tokyo probably isn't the place for you.
But if you'd RTFF you'd learn that Bunny Girls in Tokyo is 20,000 Yen for 70 minutes and GFE soapland in Kawasaki has a 20,000 Yen option too. Comes out to about $130 for FS.[/QUOTE]Wonderful. And remember how cheap and fast trains are in major cities. It's easy to go from Tokyo to Kawasaki. If you've been sightseeing for hours, you need to rest your legs anyways. So sitting on a train looking out the window or on your phone isn't a waste but a necessary transition. Just looked it up, it is 20 minutes from Shibuya to Kawasaki at 240 yen. That's $1.57. I had to double check because I couldn't believe this other site that said $1-$2:
[URL]https://www.rome2rio.com/s/Shibuya/Kawasaki?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAgJa6BhCOARIsAMiL7V-Xy_hjA9NmeuslxYA1T_IMHlMCh5AvEW5MmUxH9OxKWNnsYMw-xCYaAgQ-EALw_wcB[/URL]
I love breakfast in Japan too. Fantastic breakfast for $3-$6. Would be $20 for that in the USA now, exact same order but lower quality food even. Things get much cheaper once you leave Tokyo. Once, I ate a bunch of sushi. It was $16. In the USA it would have been $60 and not as good. This was a particularly good value shop, certainly there are more expensive sushi places in Japan and they're not all as good as the $16 one. But, they're all better than 95% of USA sushi.
This goes to the point that when in Japan, choose their specialty. You can't get soapland this good elsewhere, there are imitations including in Thailand. Kgirls offer nuru in the US. At best it's half of it. When I go to Japan, I'm looking for Japan's specialties. I was once put in a room with three kidnapped schoolgirls all blindfolded with hands tied*. I could harass them for 5 minutes before picking one to play with upstairs. This all happened suddenly as the staff left me and closed the curtains for the darkened room. I was in shock. But this was my Japan adventure and I resolved to do things the Japanese way. I told one girl "I'll pick you anyways so let's go upstairs early" She told me "Dame, 5 minutes". Rules are rules in Japan.
*Not actual schoolgirls, just petite girls in uniform. I saw cartoon ads depicting the whole kidnap room, I thought it was just dramatized to show the theme but had no idea it was really going to happen. All girls 20 and over. Barely. They know how to pick them. This not actual school was the first girl to P2P me (sumatra), it took 20 years for a kgirl to outdo her (Kendal / Shelby). Shelby is in OC starting yesterday.
See this for a list of foreigner friendly shops, though a little Japanese will help a lot. Keeping in mind that 'foreigner only' delivery health is perhaps the most newbie friendly:
[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/shop-list/[/URL]
[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1303/toranoana/[/URL] Famous shop for having JAV actresses, but you can't book the top tier girls until you are a good repeat customer.
[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1311/colorful-yoshiwar/[/URL] Fashionable schoolgirls
[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1311/puzzle/[/URL] Completely inexperienced girls
[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1317/videogirl/[/URL] Filming okay, Chinese English and Korean okay
[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1317/kiwami_g/[/URL] Instant blowjob "no wiping or washing" WTF
By the way, Japan gives no fucks about PC. It's just common sense that most guys want to play with the youngest possible legally aged women possible. They are upfront about it. That's why you see ridiculous "Teen to 20" banners imply 18-20 when we all know it's more like 20-35. Though at a few shops like Gingira it's legit 19-25. My favorite girl started that shop at 19. Once you step out of Japan please regain your Western common sense though.
Please don't be offended when I say I hate helping lazy people. I love helping others help themselves, so I only point the way. I've already done more than half the research, you have to do the rest.
PS there is one ad photo I decided not to include, I made a meme instead in its place.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2963737]
Long ago I've been offered FS for $70-$100 in Japan at a corg but the girls weren't to my liking. I believe the right word is ugly, but that's just my experience I visited 10 different corg shops and 9 sucked. So it's not just 'luck' in my opinion. What do I mean by 'just a FS' place? There also used to be glass houses in Yokohama like Amsterdam where you coould pick Chinese girls to bang for $70, I did that many times long ago. But it no longer exists. Girls give you 15 minutes so yes it's cheaper if you ONLY want to bang, but soapland is actually way better for 70 minutes of reverent worship. Plus the glass houses were demolished long ago. Today in the year 2024 what you should do is to pick soapland or delivery health, and it's going to be $200 or more. Each one has its advantage, my other posts compare them..[/QUOTE]Are BBBJ and BBFS the norm in soaplands?
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[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2947617]Okay I'm a senior member and know enough to read the threads before asking questions. I admit Japan is a little more confusing then the rest of SE Asia Think I have basics.
Understand the soaplands. Also understand foreigner bias and sticking to foreigner friendly venues. Which really means for me some soaplands, some delivery, and street girls -- aka tachinbo.
Couple questions:
1. Are most hotels in Shinjuko near Kabuchicho girl friendly if register for two people? What hotels in this area are recommended? JP gave me his on recent trip (granbell) but its booked. Needs to be a decent nice hotel; not a love hotel shithole.
2. From looking at videos of tachinbo (I'm assuming they're in Kabuchicho in videos), some of these girls seem pretty hot. I can see myself partaking. My questions:
A. Many seem to have men standing nearby. Look like middlemen. Is that the norm for street hookers? Are these guys okay to deal with? I doubt I'd have a lot of tolerance dealing with them. What's procedure for negotiation?
Be. Is it like Brazil where you have to be very specific about services upfront, or Thailand where you just agree price, bring them to hotel and they're pretty much up for anything (maybe with a little more cash)?
3. Delivery Services. I'm still a little confused about "foreigner and English friendly". From reading forum I know TokyoHentai is a +. What others in Tokyo are recommended as far as ease making appt in english or on web, and foreigner friendly girls with decent selection?[/QUOTE]I know this post is a little old, but I'm responding as more of a PSA to people who want to pick up a tachinbo at Okubo Park.
If you want to pick up a tochinbo, I don't recommend going there to do it. Youtubers, journalists, activists and plain clothed police officers are out there regularly now due to it being a well known area. The videos and articles you've seen really put the spotlight there. Also, some of those girls are runaways and / or underage. If caught, your situation will be 100 x worse if it turns out she's underage whether you knew it or not. If she looks too young, ask for her ID. It's better to be safe than sorry. It's the difference between a slap on the wrist or going to jail and getting your passport blacklisted.
Syphilis and HepA are also big problems.
The guys who hang out with them are usually just friends and clients who have nothing better to do.
They want to know what you want to do before they come with you. It can be a little difficult if you don't know the lingo, but nothing google translate can't handle. As for hotels, it's honestly best to go to a nearby love hotel. On weekdays, you can book 1. 5 hrs for less than 5 k yen. Lapia is a good place. They also provide complimentary popcorn, soft drinks and 1 free cosplay rental if you're into that.
You'll notice that they're always on their phones. That's because they network with each other and they advertise on twitter. (Safest place to book a girl).
They also hangout near train stations and at random spots in Kabukicho. Don't mistake them for the older Chinese ladies who randomly walk up to you asking for a "massage".
You can book underground AV models on Twitter too. The "FC2-PPV" porn videos are basically guys who do that and record their encounters.
The experience can also be a hit or miss because some of them are all business with no emotion. You can get GFE, but you're not guaranteed it or they charge extra.
Honestly, the only benefit of picking up a tachinbo is if she's ok with it, for 30-50 k depending on the girl, they'll let you go all the way. BBFS CIP and everything. If that's not what you want to do, it's better to go with the agencies you see on other posts here.
TLDR.
Okubo park is starting to become risky due to mass reporting of the area and STDs. Watch out for underage runaways. Tachinbo are only worth it if you want (and they offer) BBFS CIP. Otherwise, go with an agency.
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[QUOTE=Gene0;2963929]I know this post is a little old, but I'm responding as more of a PSA to people who want to pick up a tachinbo at Okubo Park.
If you want to pick up a tochinbo, I don't recommend going there to do it. Youtubers, journalists, activists and plain clothed police officers are out there regularly now due to it being a well known area. The videos and articles you've seen really put the spotlight there. Also, some of those girls are runaways and / or underage. If caught, your situation will be 100 x worse if it turns out she's underage whether you knew it or not. If she looks too young, ask for her ID. It's better to be safe than sorry. It's the difference between a slap on the wrist or going to jail and getting your passport blacklisted.
Honestly, the only benefit of picking up a tachinbo is if she's ok with it, for 30-50 k depending on the girl, they'll let you go all the way. BBFS CIP and everything. If that's not what you want to do, it's better to go with the agencies you see on other posts here.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for your contribution. Personally, I don't endorse picking up streetwalkers or some other things. But if guys want info on how to do it, I give info to increase their success rate. I know some people who went to Okubo park and had success, they actually did it. Please don't take youtube and news articles as fully accurate, they are just click farms making a few obviously false claims mixed in with truth. Screencap of one example as proof.
I'm tired of calling them out but for example attached is a youtube screencap made of a video talking about homeless teenagers. Half the footage is of girls holding up signs for girl's bars. So some user asks about these girls holding up signs being prostitutes. Look, we have two eyes see for yourself. If you know 1st year Japanese you can just READ the sign saying 'girls bar'. Or, if you know even a litte English, look at the sign on the ground to the right also saying 'Bar'. This is the lazy crap youtubers put online. Don't believe them. And that is how most Westerners get their info on Japan. A universal principle is to rely on first hand knowledge.
I've passed by the runaway girls many times, they are in always a different section than Okubo park. People in Japan have a certain common sense, even runaways, they stick their own group. Anyone who confuses the two obviously has never seen this with their own two eyes. Furthermore, all the tachinbo's I've seen are obviously adults. A few are even foreigners, and those were the ones my friend were most happy with. BBFS and CIP doesn't have anything to do with Okubo park. I've probably seen the same article you're thinking of. It's written by someone who doesn't even have a penis. Here is my post 6 weeks ago commenting on a similar article:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2952234&viewfull=1#post2952234[/URL]
Just to be crystal clear, the Okubo Park article was written by Karin Kaneko, a woman with no penis. She writes about a different topic every week, how much time do you think she spent banging women? Please realize this.
Your comment about FC2 is wrong but I understand why some people may think it. Original FC2 content is normally non-JAV stars. But FC2 is a marketplace not unlike Pornhub where anyone can upload stuff. If you see a censored video on FC2, it is just some random user pirating a JAV and selling it to anyone lazy or dumb. See it all the time. You or I could do it if we made an account and verified. I know a lot about FC2, you can find very detailed guides on them written by me.
To everyone, unfortunately we can't believe everything we read. There is a lot of clickbait content targeting the West. There are excellent and accurate resources online, I follow about 5 blogs by guys who live in Japan and monger all the time. And if I get my info on Japan from youtube, it's from Japanese people who do it every day. For those who missed it, this Youtube is a very good interview with a DH girl:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyn-qEYUn68[/URL] Interview.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?35890-LA-J-Girls&p=7003765&viewfull=1#post7003765[/URL] Youtube is a clickbait farm.
[QUOTE=JohnWick6969;2963891]Are BBBJ and BBFS the norm in soaplands?[/QUOTE]
At soapland I always get bbbj but that's just my experience since it's quite sanitary. You would not expect it at a "3 in a row" blowjob bar by contrast. Bbfs is not the norm but people do get it. It is up to the girl. I know certain girls who will give it to regulars only, so it is not just a yes or no rule. It's called YMMV.
So to conclude, remember the Youtube attachment I've included below. Anyone who can [I]read English or Japanese[/I] on a sign can see it's false. Here's the silliest thing. You or I can just walk up to these women with signs and talk to them. Imagine that, you instantly know more than anyone who writes these articles. I already did it 20 years ago, it was a girls bar. You can find a short summary below 'Fun in Tokyo Region' section:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666&viewfull=1#post2946666[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2963984]Thanks for your contribution. Personally, I don't endorse picking up streetwalkers or some other things. But if guys want info on how to do it, I give info to increase their success rate. I know some people who went to Okubo park and had success, they actually did it. Please don't take youtube and news articles as fully accurate, they are just click farms making a few obviously false claims mixed in with truth. Screencap of one example as proof.
I'm tired of calling them out but for example attached is a youtube screencap made of a video talking about homeless teenagers. Half the footage is of girls holding up signs for girl's bars. So some user asks about these girls holding up signs being prostitutes. Look, we have two eyes see for yourself. If you know 1st year Japanese you can just READ the sign saying 'girls bar'. Or, if you know even a litte English, look at the sign on the ground to the right also saying 'Bar'. This is the lazy crap youtubers put online. Don't believe them. And that is how most Westerners get their info on Japan. A universal principle is to rely on first hand knowledge.
I've passed by the runaway girls many times, they are in always a different section than Okubo park. People in Japan have a certain common sense, even runaways, they stick their own group. Anyone who confuses the two obviously has never seen this with their own two eyes. Furthermore, all the tachinbo's I've seen are obviously adults. A few are even foreigners, and those were the ones my friend were most happy with. BBFS and CIP doesn't have anything to do with Okubo park. I've probably seen the same article you're thinking of. It's written by someone who doesn't even have a penis. Here is my post 6 weeks ago commenting on a similar article:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2952234&viewfull=1#post2952234[/URL]
Just to be crystal clear, the Okubo Park article was written by Karin Kaneko, a woman with no penis. She writes about a different topic every week, how much time do you think she spent banging women? Please realize this.
Your comment about FC2 is wrong but I understand why some people may think it. Original FC2 content is normally non-JAV stars. But FC2 is a marketplace not unlike Pornhub where anyone can upload stuff. If you see a censored video on FC2, it is just some random user pirating a JAV and selling it to anyone lazy or dumb. See it all the time. You or I could do it if we made an account and verified. I know a lot about FC2, you can find very detailed guides on them written by me.
To everyone, unfortunately we can't believe everything we read. There is a lot of clickbait content targeting the West. There are excellent and accurate resources online, I follow about 5 blogs by guys who live in Japan and monger all the time. And if I get my info on Japan from youtube, it's from Japanese people who do it every day. For those who missed it, this Youtube is a very good interview with a DH girl:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyn-qEYUn68[/URL] Interview.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?35890-LA-J-Girls&p=7003765&viewfull=1#post7003765[/URL] Youtube is a clickbait farm.
At soapland I always get bbbj but that's just my experience since it's quite sanitary. You would not expect it at a "3 in a row" blowjob bar by contrast. Bbfs is not the norm but people do get it. It is up to the girl. I know certain girls who will give it to regulars only, so it is not just a yes or no rule. It's called YMMV.
So to conclude, remember the Youtube attachment I've included below. Anyone who can [I]read English or Japanese[/I] on a sign can see it's false. Here's the silliest thing. You or I can just walk up to these women with signs and talk to them. Imagine that, you instantly know more than anyone who writes these articles. I already did it 20 years ago, it was a girls bar. You can find a short summary below 'Fun in Tokyo Region' section:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666&viewfull=1#post2946666[/URL][/QUOTE]I should have been more thorough. I typed that up last night. I'm sorry.
The point I was trying to make was that Okubo Park is so well known, it's to the point where people who don't like what happens there are becoming more active. I'm just warning people to be careful.
Everyone already knows the girls holding the sign at Toyoko are just advertising their themed bars.
What I mean by media coverage are people who both like and don't like what happens there, both locally and internationally, whether its sensational or not. If you watch the news, NHK talks about crime in the area, some of which involves tochinbo pretty often. Yahoo news, gendai media etc. Also covers it.
Just a few months ago, "influencers" gathered together and formed a group called "The Street Guardians of Salvation".
They expose people who partake in the activity by going covert and conducting sting operations. They also randomly walk around holding a sign that says prostitution is bad. At Junshiurita on twitter is one of them.
Also on YouTube, there's people like "Tokyo Night Walk" who's a guy who livestreams himself walking the area and sometimes harasses the girls and there's "Yukinyan" who is someone that makes fun videos about life in the area.
Yukinyan used to interview girls and guys, but after losing her old youtube channel, she just makes shorts now. Those interviews got way too real for youtube.
I remember one did involve an underage girl who was making 100 k yen a day, but didn't get into detail about how she earned it other than dating ojisans.
People who don't browse the Japanese side of social media don't know about stuff like that.
Not all tochinbo are runaway toyoko girls, but some are. That's how they can afford living the lifestyle they live. (Jirai fashion, host / men's concept clubs etc.).
Tochinbo are more willing to do BBFS cip vs agencies because BBFS cip is illegal. The agencies abide by the law. They are legitimate, tax paying businesses. Tochinbo aren't. That's why I said if you're looking to do that, you'll find more luck with them. I didn't mean to link that with Okubo Park.
I thought FC2 was just amateur content in general? Does underground AV count as amateur? Maybe I'm wrong. I'll read your post about it.
Some of what I said was speaking from experience as well because I live in Japan and some of the people I meet regularly are in the area.
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[QUOTE=Gene0;2964074]Everyone already knows the girls holding the sign at Toyoko are just advertising their themed bars.
What I mean by media coverage are people who both like and don't like what happens there, both locally and internationally, whether its sensational or not. If you watch the news, NHK talks about crime in the area, some of which involves tochinbo pretty often. Yahoo news, gendai media etc. Also covers it.
Tochinbo are more willing to do BBFS cip vs agencies because BBFS cip is illegal. The agencies abide by the law. They are legitimate, tax paying businesses. Tochinbo aren't. That's why I said if you're looking to do that, you'll find more luck with them. I didn't mean to link that with Okubo Park.
I thought FC2 was just amateur content in general? Does underground AV count as amateur? Maybe I'm wrong. I'll read your post about it.[/QUOTE]Yes, these are excellent points. I understood them from your previous post and agree. I just want to give a different perspective on some things.
Yo're right there is special coverage of Okubo Park. Note that enforcement in Japan is extremely lax compared to other countries. A lot is focused on trumpeting in the news what little they do. I don't mean to downplay your points. In any case, Japanese law itself does not punish Johns with adult prostitutes.
Well, my previous post linked to examples of a user and a youtuber that couldn't tell the difference between a no touch bar girl and a prostitute. I think regular Westerners don't either, they're new to Japan. There are a lot of foreigners and tourists reading ISG just getting started. They're the vast majority of people and we hope to help them. Hope that makes sense.
Soapland, delivery health, and Tobita exist because of legal fiction. What goes on inside is completely illegal, that's why staff strictly warn delivery health customers that there is no sex (wink), same as a strip club. City of Industry strip clubs are a non-stop fuck fest, but the club manager can say "I told them not to do that!" And he's right - if he catches a girl being obvious in the open she's fired. With soapland in particular, the law has no mechanism to investigate them. Technically, at soapland women assist men in washing their bodies. Sometimes, I even need my body washed by two women. Japan is full of this - gambling is illegal, pachinco is gambling, yet pachinco is everywhere:
[I]Gambling is also illegal in Japan. But there are 7000+ pachinko parlors in Japan in plain sight. I went in and won $200 with beginners luck. To sum it up it's gambling. The pachinko parlor cannot give you any money. Yet somehow I turned those balls I won into real money at some back alley shop next door that had "nothing to do" with the pachinko parler. This random shop by coincidence was desperately trying to buy credits that pachinko balls will buy. Gee. Not gambling right. This system is 100% effective at stopping law enforcement in Japan by the way, because nobody cares about pachinko.[/I]
Excerpted from: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2933358&highlight=pachinko#post2933358[/URL]
In Jdrama have you sometimes seen the trope where the villain taunts the policeman saying "Where's your warrant?" even though he is 100% obviously guilty? In Japan, this is taken very seriously. There is no such thing as arrest for probable cause like in the US. Suspicion is not enough. For that reason, the moment a door closes and it's just a man and a woman, Japanese police cannot record, investigate, or detain anyone without a warrant. In the same way, the shop staff doesn't are as long as they don't hear or see anything. Who knows what goes on in that room between the two of you! That's Japan.
Since you are interested in the FC2 guides, I'll link the best ones.
FC2 guides. How to research, get, or stream them:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37207-Jgirl-Appreciation-Filming-Porn-and-Guides&p=7096622&viewfull=1#post7096622[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37207-Jgirl-Appreciation-Filming-Porn-and-Guides&p=7095387&viewfull=1#post7095387[/URL]
JAV guides. If a jgirl is working at a shop, how to research her JAV and see them:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37207-Jgirl-Appreciation-Filming-Porn-and-Guides&p=7108468&viewfull=1#post7108468[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7110754&viewfull=1#post7110754[/URL]
PS. Remember that JAV is censored and legal in Japan. Whereas amateur porn including FC2 is illegal in Japan, since it's uncensored most of the time. But it's fine, FC2 is "not a Japanese website"! Yes it's full of Japanese women. And it's customers are almost all Japanese. You see what I'm saying now, right? This is exactly the same thing as Pachinco and Soapland, a loophole for something that is 100% illegal. Uncensored porn, gambling*, and paying for FS is 100% illegal in Japan.
*In 2029, you will finally be able to legally gamble at one Casino in Osaka.
Examples of FC2 attached. Uncensored Japanese porn is illegal in Japan, Korea, China, despite it also being extremely popular in these very countries! Who can blame them for wanting. When monkies were shown photos of the rears of female monkies, they spent hours staring at it. When indigenous people and North Koreans were given access to porn, they spent hours watching it. It is universal. So enjoy these samples of Japanese women having sex happily as you watch them. If you like, you may download their video.
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First Timer Report
Excited to report from Tokyo.
I've always wanted to try j ladies but with the language barrier, dating is nigh impossible. Furthermore, good looking 20's girls? Very unlikely. But with the services available, dreams do come true.
I chose to try delivery health vs soaplands as the price difference is too stark to ignore. Also soapland requires you to go to a far off area (yoshiwara). The nearby soaplands in kabuchiko seem like "budget" soaplands, without the pretty women. And if you aren't getting a pretty Japanese gal then why bother paying premium in the first place? Average looking Asian gals are readily available in the dating scene around Asia.
I tried 2 services (but I prefer not to name them for obvious reasons) - one was a famous foreigner oriented DH in kabuchiko and another was a lesser known, locals-marketed DH service.
The first one was easy to find. I tried that one just to understand the whole concept. I did walk in and they showed the menu of girls. I asked which one was pretty and petite and the staff recommended a choice for me. Paid about 30 k yen, can't remember the exact amount. I waited in the waiting area and noticed foreigners of all types also waiting. An older Asian man, a fat middle eastern looking man, a handsome young white guy, etc.
When the girl showed up, she brought me to a nearby love hotel. She was a little older (maybe 30?) and much thicker than I wanted but would fall under normal body type instead of slim. Her English is good and one thing I noticed with this foreigner focused place is a lot of their girls are not pure Japanese. They seem to be other type of Asians or mixed girl masquerading as Japanese. I suppose these are the type of girls they look for who can speak English and are willing to cater to foreigners. They are also older at around 30+.
I think younger less experienced and pure Japanese girls are unlikely to want to try foreigners as it can be a mixed bag for them vs the usual Japanese clientele wherein they know what to expect.
In the room, the girl told me the rules about DH but offered FS if I wanted it with the caveat that "no one should know". I declined as she wasn't really my exact type so I wasn't interested in paying more. She was very professional and prefer that she leads her "service". I let her bathe me and do her service. I noticed she has amazing porcelain white skin and is skilled enough to keep me hard even if I thought I wouldn't be super into it. Did a lot of FK too and kissed her skin all over.
She was also a top rated talent in her agency but started falling in the rankings due to lack of repeat visitors (I suppose this is a difficult metric to get good scores in if your clientele are visiting foreigners) so she started doing JAV work so she can be promoted to p-star status and charge more. She showed off her JAV vid and I was able to search for it later on so I do know it exists.
Overall a decent experience, FK, DATY, HJ, BBBJ all included. FS was offered but I declined.
WIR: why.
Second DH I tried was a better experience. I picked their top talent and she was very beautiful in photos, in her 20's. Reviews also noted as much so I went ahead with it. When I saw her in person I was floored. She really is a beauty and is also thin / slim like I wanted. She had an aura of elegance about her that would make you think she is a classy lady to take out on a date and ignore all her previous s-work LOL.
Her skin is milky white and beautiful, amazing spinner body over all but flat on the chest side (which I don't mind as I like the fashion model types). Unfortunately I spoke no Japanese and she spoke no English so we had to communicate via google translate which burned a lot of precious minutes. She explained the rules of DH but also offered FS. She did mention it has to be a secret. I took it since I fancied her. She was passive and let me lead the session.
FK, DATY, BBBJ, HJ, FS all available. Even some cuddling afterwards. Stellar experience and damage was 27 k yen plus 10 k tip for the FS. She also kept asking for my itinerary and kept on begging me to do a repeat visit, which I found interesting since she is the top star and has a full schedule otherwise. I took that as a compliment but its probably just some tactics on her end. Couldn't repeat anymore as I wanted to do other touristy stuff on the remaining days.
WIR: why.
If you have the time and effort, do dig deep into the wide world of DH for local Japanese. They get much much better quality of girls IMO and more "girl next door" than "professional".
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[QUOTE=BlackEngine44;2964148]I chose to try delivery health vs soaplands as the price difference is too stark to ignore. [/QUOTE]Sorry, but this makes no sense. There are 20,000 Yen soaplands and 200,000 Yen delivery health.
It all depends on the place, not the type of place.
[QUOTE]Also soapland requires you to go to a far off area (yoshiwara).[/QUOTE]Far off? Minowa Station is 10 minutes from Akihabara Station on the Hibiya Line.
[QUOTE]I tried 2 services (but I prefer not to name them for obvious reasons)[/QUOTE]They're no obvious to me. Could you spell them out?
[QUOTE]If you have the time and effort, do dig deep into the wide world of DH for local Japanese. They get much much better quality of girls IMO and more "girl next door" than "professional".[/QUOTE]It's generally true throughout Asia that tourists get the less desirable girls. But it doesn't have to be that way if people do a few minutes of research.
For example the women at Tokyo Amateur Escort are the literal same ones that Japanese guys from the same place.
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Trip report
I tried THC Shinjuku yesterday with silver class Kazuha and what a disaster. She showed up 30 minutes late and no apologies or anything. She looked like late 20's or early 30's, definitely not the listed 20 year old. I knew immediately this was going to be bad. She seems like she had no life in her. Just a dead soul. When we walked to the love hotel, she did speak English well enough to ask questions like do you like anime, how long will you be here. We barely showered and she then quoted me 35000 yen for the standard secret menu option, which I said no. She said everyone pays me that. LOL riiiiight. I must note I didn't pick any THC add-ONS, based on my research, the girls don't really remember and it's better to negotiate directly with the girl. I was planning on movie recording option, but seeing how she looked old and tired, I lost interest. She really didn't want to touch me. I ended up with the world's worst HJ and felt really shitty all day. You feel terrible when you feel undesired and you spent a bit of money for it.
Today I went to Luxe oppai pub and what an incredible time!! All the staff spoke great English. I told them the website says 7,000 yen for first timers and they immediately Ok'ed it. The first girl who sat down was very cute and we hit it off immediately. She said she is 27, but she looked like 21.
I initially wanted to rotate all 3 girls, but I was having so much fun with her, I kept her instead of rotating. Then eventually 40 minutes was up, which honestly seemed way too quick. I should have kept time to make sure, oh well. (I read a Google review that he felt the time was running fast). Anyway, I did a 20 min extension. They charged me 15,000 yen on top of the initial 7,000 yen. It seems a bit high, but what the hell. It's rare to meet someone who click with so well. They did give me a coupon for another 7,000 yen entrance fee, and also the girl gave me her card which skips the nomination fee.
I know Traveler X you said to buy a girl a drink to keep them happy, but she never once asked me and the waiters never asked me either. She was super happy when I kept her instead of rotating and also when I extended with her, she was thrilled. She did drink my beer though LOL.
I kind of feel bad for not getting her a drink, but I will next time.
I'm a total believer in oppai pubs over DH, just wish I could keep it going for hours LOL.
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Repeated with this place again. Got lucky with Emily who was suggested by the tout. They sent her to my hotel in Ueno.
Showed up on time, spoke great English (wasn't expecting that), and had a good understanding of the language from living overseas. A very fun girl who wanted to try on some of the dirty jokes she learned in California. It was a great surprise and she genuinely got some laughs out of me.
During the massage she was quiet and erotic. Nice hot oil rub down covering everything except my butt hole. More relaxing and sexy than anything that would relieve a muscle ache. But she did do wonders on my feet.
Wasn't sure if it would result in HJ, but she did end up giving me a great slow hand job under the sheet and edging me right to the bell rang. So she's a real pro. She really seems to like getting guys off too. She had that naughty look in her eye.
Mid twenties, very pretty face, very fun and looks great in the tight dress they wear. Nice choice for easy in room relief.
[QUOTE=RickRock;2954071]Here's another good find in Tokyo:
Japanese Girls Massage Bamboo Forest [URL]https://japanese-girls-massage.tokyo/system[/URL].
In room massage, and they are pretty quick and hassle free about setting it up. No need to show ID, have a Japanese phone number, or any of that annoying stuff that so many places require. Also foreign friendly and English speaking.
I was able to get a nice Japanese women in her 20's sent to my hotel in about 2 hours. She was English speaking. Tight clothes. Lots of flirting and joking around. She never got naked. Not that kind of place. But after a really good massage she flipped me over and worked a nice load out of me.
60 minutes was 20000 Yen, no delivery fee or tipping.
The website says "no sexual services" but I ended up getting a world class hand job with nuru lotion on my first try. Is this the norm? YMMV.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BlackEngine44;2964148]Excited to report from Tokyo.
I've always wanted to try j ladies but with the language barrier, dating is nigh impossible. Furthermore, good looking 20's girls? Very unlikely. But with the services available, dreams do come true.
I tried 2 services (but I prefer not to name them for obvious reasons) - one was a famous foreigner oriented DH in kabuchiko and another was a lesser known, locals-marketed DH service.
When the girl showed up, she brought me to a nearby love hotel. She was a little older (maybe 30?) and much thicker than I wanted but would fall under normal body type instead of slim. Her English is good and one thing I noticed with this foreigner focused place is a lot of their girls are not pure Japanese. They seem to be other type of Asians or mixed girl masquerading as Japanese. I suppose these are the type of girls they look for who can speak English and are willing to cater to foreigners. They are also older at around 30+.
I think younger less experienced and pure Japanese girls are unlikely to want to try foreigners as it can be a mixed bag for them vs the usual Japanese clientele wherein they know what to expect.
Overall a decent experience, FK, DATY, HJ, BBBJ all included. FS was offered but I declined.
WIR: why.
Second DH I tried was a better experience. I picked their top talent and she was very beautiful in photos, in her 20's. Reviews also noted as much so I went ahead with it. When I saw her in person I was floored. She really is a beauty and is also thin / slim like I wanted. She had an aura of elegance about her that would make you think she is a classy lady to take out on a date and ignore all her previous s-work LOL.
Her skin is milky white and beautiful, amazing spinner body over all but flat on the chest side (which I don't mind as I like the fashion model types). Unfortunately I spoke no Japanese and she spoke no English so we had to communicate via google translate which burned a lot of precious minutes. She explained the rules of DH but also offered FS. She did mention it has to be a secret. I took it since I fancied her. She was passive and let me lead the session.
WIR: why.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your contribution, wonderful to hear you found a girl that amazed you. No matter the agency, it can take more than one try to find a superior girl. Research goes a long way, as well as a shop with at least accurate photos. The language barrier can happen and cause some delay, but as you noted your favorite girl spoke no English while the average girl could speak English. So I'll repeat your quote to emphasize.
[I]I've always wanted to try j ladies but with the language barrier, dating is nigh impossible. Furthermore, good looking 20's girls? Very unlikely. But with the services available, dreams do come true.[/I]
Isn't that wonderful? You can think of it as a big positive instead. That you found in your words a beautiful young woman. You enjoyed her completely even with the language barrier, and dating her would be impossible. In her 20's as you hoped, which we all know doesn't always happen. So take the win, to make your dream come true a few minutes delay for translation is reasonable. This is why some shops ask foreigners to book a minimum time like 70 minutes instead of a lower time. Just an idea.
I also appreciate that you would not repeat girls, no matter how good. A lot of guys are like this and it's normal, most guys want new girls. But sometimes, you make a special connection with a girl and it sure is nice to know you already like a girl before she shows up. Only do this if you feel comfortable with a girl and have 'more to explore' with her. Certainly the disadvantage is it might be mostly the same, but that really depends on you as much as her. For example sometimes a particular girl is really into something like DATY, and I only did a little but noticed it. I take my 2nd visit and really focus on that. A recent girl liked it, so I tried it many positions with her. Treat a girl respectfully and you can go far, a good share of girls enjoy things when you put in some effort to please them too.
Everyone should post what they're comfortable with. I think it should be okay to name agencies if not girls in general, but that is up to you no one can require you to say it. Good to know you did your research and had success, it is a good reminder for others that first-timers can do well.
Everyone knows fs (full sex) is available at DH. Girls just have to say "don't tell" since the shop can then say "I told them not to do fs". But actually, they WANT people to know fs is available at DH. It may seem ridiculous but that's exactly how a fs US strip club works. Everyone knows any strip club in City of Industry has fs available (about 80% of girls do it), but if you ask the male staff at any club there they'd look at you like you're an idiot or a cop. The manager might angrily warn you and toss you if you say it again. You don't talk about fs until you're alone with a girl. And we post intel on which girl does fs and how much all the time for years and decades, no problem. But remember discretion and respect, we don't tell girls we heard they do things online. Just use common sense and ask normally "Can we.." Treat the girls well and you may go far.
[QUOTE=RickRock;2964182]Sorry, but this makes no sense. There are 20,000 Yen soaplands and 200,000 Yen delivery health.
It's generally true throughout Asia that tourists get the less desirable girls. But it doesn't have to be that way if people do a few minutes of research.
For example the women at Tokyo Amateur Escort are the literal same ones that Japanese guys from the same place.[/QUOTE]Yes, and I find that the cost of a shop depends on the area and of course what the shop offers. Only certain locations have soaplands due to licensing, Tokyo will not license new ones and that's really why Delivery Health exist (they arose in response to demand and lack of new licenses). While it's true you get what you pay for, past a certain point at the high end you are getting things like a more luxurious room or a popular JAV star. Things that might not matter to other guys. It certainly doesn't matter to me. I totally understand a luxurious room can be fun and it is interesting to bang a JAV star. But I'd rather bang 2 or 3 girls instead. Especially if one of them is better looking than the JAV star.
There certainly are some difference in girls that service foreigners, but it's not a lot. Some examples: 1) Some jgirls don't service foreigners, so we don't see them. 2) There is some "can speak English" bias to girls that do, but it's not a lot 3) If a shop you pick is "foreigner only" rather than "foreigner okay", that might further skew the girls.
However, in many cases jgirls service both foreigners and locals. We are getting those same girls, and there's a lot of them. One friend used the word "unlimited choices" and he's a foreigner of course. He's going to keep going often, he's in love. The reality is the effect of 1) is not that big, some of the absolutely best young girls do both foreigner and local. And there is a universal truth that even if a girl is young and beautiful, the nature of the work is that after working enough weeks they will not be fully booked if they work regularly. Because guys like BlackEngine are normal, they want a new girl by default. So there is no surprise when a girl you think is amazing is not fully booked. Everyone has different taste too, of course. Note that many girls that are truly popular, still don't work a full schedule. Since they can't stay fully booked if they did, and a perk of the work is lots of money but lots of days off. Just how it is.
It's just my opinion, but you can share names of shops and girls normally. Maybe if you had a serious complaint I can understand wanting to only leave some details so it isn't linked to you. Everyone should do what they think is right and feel comfortable posting. My preference is to highlight girls and shops I think are good, rather than listing ones I think aren't. Thank you!
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[QUOTE=Bribs000;2964193]Today I went to Luxe oppai pub and what an incredible time!! All the staff spoke great English. I told them the website says 7,000 yen for first timers and they immediately Ok'ed it. The first girl who sat down was very cute and we hit it off immediately. She said she is 27, but she looked like 21.
I initially wanted to rotate all 3 girls, but I was having so much fun with her, I kept her instead of rotating. Then eventually 40 minutes was up, which honestly seemed way too quick. I should have kept time to make sure, oh well. (I read a Google review that he felt the time was running fast). Anyway, I did a 20 min extension. They charged me 15,000 yen on top of the initial 7,000 yen. It seems a bit high, but what the hell. It's rare to meet someone who click with so well. They did give me a coupon for another 7,000 yen entrance fee, and also the girl gave me her card which skips the nomination fee.
I know Traveler X you said to buy a girl a drink to keep them happy, but she never once asked me and the waiters never asked me either. She was super happy when I kept her instead of rotating and also when I extended with her, she was thrilled. She did drink my beer though LOL.
I kind of feel bad for not getting her a drink, but I will next time.
I'm a total believer in oppai pubs over DH, just wish I could keep it going for hours LOL.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you had fun. I remember my first oppai pub, many years ago. Totally new and exciting.
The problems with oppai pubs are:
1. 99% don't let you in unless you're Japanese and / or speak Japanese.
2. You don't actually receive anything. Your cock is not touched.
There are probably 999 deli healths in Tokyo alone. Each one has 5-50 girls. So you're talking about thousands of women. I wouldn't condemn an entire industry off one bad experience. If you have one bad burger, are you going to write off all hamburger restaurants?
Plus at DH you get to cum.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2964435]Sounds like you had fun. I remember my first oppai pub, many years ago. Totally new and exciting.
The problems with oppai pubs are:
1. 99% don't let you in unless you're Japanese and / or speak Japanese.
2. You don't actually receive anything. Your cock is not touched.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right that one bad experience isn't representative. I think he gets that, but most people have a money or time budget so they get one or two shots at it. Just how it goes.
I think your preference for DH is common, and goes to show we all want something different. When I order girls for FS, sometimes what I enjoyed the most was kissing them in bed. Some girls are special, and the sex that follows is part of the whole package. If oppai pubs doubled in price and soapland and DH dropped by half, I'd still go to oppai pubs mainly! I don't expect anyone else to agree or understand. I can just use any FS girl later in the week to 'clean up'. If I've been playing with stunningly beautiful girls for days I'm not bothered about banging it out with a decent looking girl who worships me for an hour. Or rather, I don't fuss about which girl I see, I'll go in random and come out happy.
I don't get blueballed like other guys when going oppai pubs. I do weird stuff like. Talk? Sometimes stroking their body, leg, spontaneous things then kissing. Lots of fun chat and tease, then more play. It's a dream come true. When you have a 9 or a 10 girl on your lap, it beats sex with a 7 or 8 in my opinion. But I do understand I'm in the minority here. Everyone wants something different, some people even prefer maid cafes and hostess clubs.
So I get it's nothing to you, but it's almost everything to me? I will say oppai pubs were the [I]only[/I] place I was allowed in when I first went to Japan. Literally. I posted in detail about my experience in March 2004. In Tokyo I'd say 80% of them won't let you in without a few years of Japanese, but that's a lot left including Luxe where you can speak zero Japanese. In Nagoya, 100% of them let me in. Things were slow there, that's probably why.
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[QUOTE=Bribs000;2964193]Today I went to Luxe oppai pub and what an incredible time!! All the staff spoke great English. I told them the website says 7,000 yen for first timers and they immediately Ok'ed it. The first girl who sat down was very cute and we hit it off immediately. She said she is 27, but she looked like 21.
I initially wanted to rotate all 3 girls, but I was having so much fun with her, I kept her instead of rotating. Then eventually 40 minutes was up, which honestly seemed way too quick. I should have kept time to make sure, oh well. (I read a Google review that he felt the time was running fast). Anyway, I did a 20 min extension. They charged me 15,000 yen on top of the initial 7,000 yen. It seems a bit high, but what the hell. It's rare to meet someone who click with so well. They did give me a coupon for another 7,000 yen entrance fee, and also the girl gave me her card which skips the nomination fee.
I know Traveler X you said to buy a girl a drink to keep them happy, but she never once asked me and the waiters never asked me either. She was super happy when I kept her instead of rotating and also when I extended with her, she was thrilled. She did drink my beer though LOL.[/QUOTE]
You've done what few tourists have experienced. You are part of the 1%. Making out with cute young jgirls is just our thing.
Some of the girls are really cool. That's why they send you 3. If you like one, just keep her. Don't even wonder if the next girl is better, she might be better she might be worse. But you like the girl you have a lot, so keep her. Best feeling ever for me. Many girls did not ask me to buy them drinks. In a way, those are the girls I like to buy drinks for the most. That's probably why I'm buying all the girls a drink, but you don't have to. Certainly, she will be happy if you just keep and extend her. She makes good money that way and if you two are getting along anyways, it's a pleasure for her too.
Also note the much higher rate for going past 40 minutes, that's common. I don't mind paying the premium if the girl is wonderful, just want everyone to know their options. It's still way cheaper than FS. Picking or extending the girl gives her a bigger cut, so you don't need to buy her a drink if nobody asks. Not everyone wants one. Glad she drank yours! A few girls are very special.
If she gave you her card, use that card for the discount. Or, go to Manzoku before 9 pm and ask if you can still get the first timer discount. They would always rather have your business unless they are full.
Your post a few weeks ago said you were maybe intimidated by the Luxe website making it look high end. Now you can see it is just a classy business about entertaining us. Customer service is very good in Japan, that 'high end' club exists to make us happy. I always go alone, don't worry about it. Sorry to hear your THC experience, every girl is different. Some of the girls must have GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome) asking 35K and this is one advantage of "foreigner friendly" DH over "foreigner only". Plenty of better girls take 10k or 20k. I think any DH that serves Japanese customers is not going to have the girls ask GPS prices. Because at that point, why not just bang jgirls in the US. Most in the US are 20s, and they let you film.
GPS = "I think I can charge twice as much, when there are girls younger and hotter than me charging less" Jgirls in the US are 320-350 an hour, most are under 25.
[QUOTE=Bribs000;2964193]I'm a total believer in oppai pubs over DH, just wish I could keep it going for hours LOL.[/QUOTE]Same. And sometimes, I do.
Everyone wants something different, let's keep an open mind and help each other. Girls can be hit and miss as we all know, another reviewer said his first girl was okay but the second girl was great. Just how it is. One reason I recommended Kira Kira soapland is the service is consistently good even though you don't expect a young cute girl. It's possible but I just don't expect it. For people who have never tried FS in Japan, it's a way to test it out on a budget. Try out an oppai pub too. Don't follow what we're doing, you do what you like.
To celebrate your happy experience, attached are oppai club girls. I've played with them myself and they are photo accurate. I've seen about 50. P4P (Pay for play) is awesome. Meme attached for what 99% of people have to deal with.
For those looking to join in reviews and sharing info, if you are in quarantine use the Contact Us button at the bottom of the website and select the appropriate checkbox. Tokyo services for foreigners is booming this year. We need more reviewers.
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Do you just ask them to sit on your lap, go topless, and suck on them?
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2964457]You've done what few tourists have experienced. You are part of the 1%. Making out with cute young jgirls is just our thing.
.[/QUOTE]I plan to to to Lux tomorrow. Do you just ask them to sit on your lap? Do they straddle you face to face like a lap dance? Or are their backs are towards you?
Do you just ask them if you can feel and suck on their breasts?
Sorry I'm thinking from a strip club perspective.
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2964516]I plan to to to Lux tomorrow. Do you just ask them to sit on your lap? Do they straddle you face to face like a lap dance? Or are their backs are towards you?
Do you just ask them if you can feel and suck on their breasts?
Sorry I'm thinking from a strip club perspective.[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2959611&viewfull=1#post2959611[/URL] My oppai pub guide
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666#post2946666[/URL] My everything Japan guide
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2955623&viewfull=1#post2955623[/URL] ATexGuy's visit
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963461&viewfull=1#post2963461[/URL] Manzoku shop for everything besides Luxe
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2947048&viewfull=1#post2947048[/URL] Tachinbo
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963832&viewfull=1#post2963832[/URL] I was stuck with 3 kidnapped schoolgirls
[B]Oppai pub summary[/B]
I know it's a lot of posts but if you want details read all the links above. Or you can just go and figure it out, you don't need me. Luxe staff speak perfect English. Every girl can be different, some just because they're new. You get maybe 10 minutes each girl. I usually start with chat, flirtation, light touching, then have them hop on at 5 minutes. Just ask if they don't do it automatically. Be kind, they're women and best to warm them up first. Use your calm charm, make them feel safe first and introduce yourself. They straddle facing you because every girl has breasts in front I hope. You can have them face away but they must put back their tops. Don't touch their privates.
You get 40 minutes and 3 girls, if there's a delay it doesn't count. It might be girl for 10 minutes then 5 minute break, so 10+5+10+5+10=40. You get 3 girls so let's say on average you don't like 1. Just let it go. Don't go if you don't like Japanese girls.
[B]How it all started[/B]
No one ever told me a single thing about these places. My first post about it is 20+ years old. I was in the Nagoya RLD and the staff standing outside said they'd take me even though I spoke 3 months worth of Japanese. I just wanted to see any Japanese shop so I asked what kind. He said you get all you can drink beer! Oh, and there's also a girl and you can suck on her tits. The beer is as much as you can drink so it's a great value. Hold up I said what was that other part? I'm not joking, he actually emphasized the beer more than the girls. So he said yes sir you get 3 girls for 60 minutes and it's 4000 yen ($26). WTF? WTF Japan. I played it cool and said "Yeah sure let me try it".
I was seated and reverently given beer, it's draft so pretty good. I don't drink BTW. Next, they brought me my first girl, presented less reverently than the beer. I couldn't believe how cute and young she was. They pranked me the best way possible by talking about the beer. We chatted, complimented each other, then I mentioned I heard you can get on me and more. She said sure thing with a smile. Only rule is I can't touch her privates, which to me is just saying I can touch 95% of her body. But I played it cautious, the girl should feel safe and comfortable. Keep in mind 10 minutes ago I was walking down the street thinking I couldn't touch anything. Not even an old woman.
We went at it different ways, then I switched girls like the Sultan. Every girl was special in a different way, including besides her breasts. They were all nice to me and even curious, I was the first foreigner for all of them. Instead of replying I said hold on I got to get another kiss and suck on your tits one more time. At the end of my hour, I stumbled outside bewildered at what I had just done. I did it five more times that trip.
Every oppai pub in Nagoya let me in. Not so in Tokyo BTW. It helped that it was weekday still 8 pm, slow. 10pm and it's full, nobody could enter. Also, every other type of club refused me, except oppai pubs. Every hostess club and soapland said no at 3 months of Japanese. But in later trips I found the exceptions, using Manzoku.
As I said, I was the first foreigner for the 15 girls I saw my first trip, but that was Nagoya and 20 years ago. I spread the word. Luxe is foreigner friendly and in Tokyo so probably the opposite case. In the photos, one girl enjoyed our time so much she wrote me out a message on a card I gave her. I also attached a random photo of one of 100 weird things I saw in Japan. You get used to it.
[B]Retelling[/B]
I had told this story before, as a poem:
[I]I was walking downtown Sakae in Nagoya when a Japanese tout beckoned me in. It was weekday dinner time so things were dead slow. Even with limited Japanese, as a presentable gentleman I could enter an oppai pub. I actually entered three. The pamphlet attached shows the system, there is no mistake what goes on. I did exactly those things with exactly those girls. Nagoya is so cheap compared to Tokyo, it was 4000 yen ($27) to make out with 3 women for an hour. They were quite cute. Yes, you heard me right, $27. People drop $1 K on strippers in NYC and don't even get lfk.
After making out with the third girl and giving her tits one final goodbye kiss, I was a transformed man. I became Traveler X.[/I]
Please keep a good thing going by being respectful with girls and following the rules. Most girls know what they're doing and will take care of you, forgive the new girls they're just learning. Luxe will explain everything in clear English. Have fun.
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My first visit to Japan. Had an afternoon to kill so hopped the train to Yokohama and Kira Kira. I speak almost no Japanese. Messaged ahead of time on Line for an 11 am visit. Early in the day so they're probably not busy and perhaps not the best girls are working. Its fine. Drew Remonn. Pretty girl, milfy but not old (24, in reality). See cups with the very large nipples I like. Evidence of a pregnancy. Probably would not repeat with her but I had a great, easy time. 70 minutes. Thanks Traveller X for the rec.
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[QUOTE=Fjrk76;2964682]My first visit to Japan. Had an afternoon to kill so hopped the train to Yokohama and Kira Kira. I speak almost no Japanese. Messaged ahead of time on Line for an 11 am visit. Early in the day so they're probably not busy and perhaps not the best girls are working. Its fine. Drew Remonn. Pretty girl, milfy but not old (24, in reality). See cups with the very large nipples I like. Evidence of a pregnancy. Probably would not repeat with her but I had a great, easy time. 70 minutes. Thanks Traveller X for the rec.[/QUOTE]Thank you for reporting what you got. Others will follow our clues and go even further. Kira Kira is really convenient and always foreigner friendly. Yokohama is an easy 'half day' trip with cheap and easy access by train. Definitely going at a slow time is better.
Kira Kira is perfect for first timers. The girls tend to be decent looking, not stunners but in my experience each girl had something nice. It's soapland, the average service is great and you can expect the girls to obey you completely with their bodies. Treat them respectfully and have fun. For those curious about Kira Kira, read about my first visit there on the Yokohama thread. Yokohama is maybe a 40 minute train ride from Shibuya, less than $2.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963631&viewfull=1#post2963631[/URL]
At 11am you should be in and out and ready to grab lunch around 12:20 nearby. If you don't mind a healthy walk, I suggest Ichiran Ramen at Sakuragicho - it's special. Sakuragicho is food heaven. For over the top decadence, go to New Otani Inn and next to it is a small Mizunobu Fruit Parlor (11am-9pm). Fucking ridiculous fruit desserts with top shelf fruit, only in Japan. Or Harbs cake, even more ridiculously luxurious. A good alibi* too!
* Traveler X is not responsible for what you tell your friends
[URL]https://www.mizunobubrooks.com/fruit-parlor/menu/[/URL] Mizunobu fruit parlor - next level
[URL]https://www.harbs.co.jp/en/menu_cake_flag/[/URL] Harbs Cake - next next level
[URL]https://ichiran.com/shop/kanto/sakuragicho/[/URL] Ichiran Ramen - worth repeating
So your girl had great nipples, pretty, at least young. Mine was similar, a bit thick but she had tits with a cute face and obeyed and worshipped me for an hour like a god. Washing me close with her body parts soaped up, sucking me 4 times all around the room in different scenarios and positions, banging with me casually to my satisfaction, nice feedback sounds from her they seemed real, then she randomly had me eat her pussy before we just chatted about random stuff. That describes my first visit. I skipped off to lunch thereafter. There is something deeply satisfying about that the first few times you get it. After a few times of that, maybe you up your game and try a higher end shop. Or something totally different like an oppai pub or fetish club. Only you know what you want.
It's my pleasure to help. Long ago people helped me, and I could not repay what they did for me. I hope you have many long years of fun adventures like this and share intel for others to follow. There are many other shops we haven't mapped out but are also foreigner friendly. This will give people choice, and choice is how we avoid GPS pricing that sometimes happens with DH aimed at tourists. Nothing against DH, just saying good intel will increase our success rates. We vote with our wallets.
Attached are some fantastic alibis.
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Hey guys,
I'll travel to Japan in April for almost a month.
During this period I would like to try out whatever to country has to offer.
Please, keep in mind that I'm Italian, I don't speak Japanese and I'm in my 30's (athletic, tattooed).
I'll visit Tokyo, Kyoto, Osaka.
Soaplands.
I'm researching a lot about Soaplands thanks to all your reviews and comments but I'm kind of overwhelmed if I have to be honest.
So I'd like to ask your advice about which shops I should ltake into consideration (for the providers, of course I'll search myself).
As the prices are quite high compared to other countries I've been to (Thailand for example) I don't want to waste my money with a bad choice.
Pink salons.
I've been reading a lot but it seems it's not that worth. Can you confirm this? Also, it seems a lot of shops closed down.
Erotic massage parlors.
I personally love massage parlors with happy endings. No sex involved in this scenario. Can you recommend me some of this kind of shops?
Waxing shops.
This is a kink of mine. I love to be waxed. Are there any salons that operate on men and can also provide an happy ending? It would be a blast.
Extra.
Whatever you think I should or could try.
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My first visit to Luxe (oppai bar). I'm getting good at dodging the Nigerian touts on the street. Don't make eye contact. Offer a stern "no" to their advance. Or, say nothing at all. Do not shake the hand. One guy actually tugged on my jacket to which I raised my voice "do not touch me! He ran away. After a few beers and tiddies in my face I'll joke with them, because I'm done for the night and going home.
Anyway. Luxe. Monday night around 21:30. There a frumpy-looking Japanese man on the street level just outside of the Luxe elevator. My defense was high and I thought he might be a middle-man so I ignored him. He actually works for Luxe. He's ok. I meet the handler on the 4th floor. Gargle mouthwash. Read the rules and prices. Wait 5 minutes (it was getting busy in there). My plan is just do 40 minutes, meet three girls for a total of 6 tiddies in my face, drink 3 little beers then go eat. Its my first time so 7000 Y and I'm in the door.
First girl, Haruka, 22, petite, cute, pretty, perfectly shaped be cups (I'm using western cup sizes.) She was very bubbly, slightly janky teeth. We laughed a lot, she was very friendly, needed no prompting, she hopped on, dropped her top and pushed my face into her pillows without any provocation. It was difficult to not nominate her. I bought her a drink. 3000 Y.
2nd girl, Sachi, 24, a little taller, a little less pretty than Haruka, gorgeous smile, slim but with generously sized, natural, western the-cup breasts with just a little sag. I'm a breast man and the sight of her assets made me want to buy her a house. She a little less forward than Haruka, a little more shy. But I know how to be friendly and playful with a girl and open her up. We had fun. I bought her a drink. 3000 Y. She gave me her Line. I will try to meet her outside of the club for some p4 p. Or maybe I will buy her a house.
Then I got presented with the final bill. 5000 Y for lady drinks. Why not 6000 I don't know. I protested to the man that I only got two girls. He mumbled something about being too busy. I was tired and hungry and wanted to leave anyway. I got Sachi's number and a coupon for another discounted 40-min. Next time I will go at 8 pm when the club is less crowded to get my full 3-girl rotation. Thanks gain to Traveller X for the strategy.
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[QUOTE=Fjrk76;2965167]First girl, Haruka, 22, petite, cute, pretty, perfectly shaped be cups (I'm using western cup sizes.)..It was difficult to not nominate her. I bought her a drink. 3000 Y.[/QUOTE]You're in charge, it is a tough call to make. I always point out how cheap it all is and better value than strip clubs. You can't get girls to kiss you and the rest even if you spent 10 times as much. I know, I wrote the strip club guides too.
[QUOTE=Fjrk76;2965167]
She a little less forward than Haruka, a little more shy. But I know how to be friendly and playful with a girl and open her up. We had fun. I bought her a drink. 3000 Y. She gave me her Line.[/QUOTE]This is the way. Treat the girls well and sometimes you can go far.
[QUOTE=Fjrk76;2965167]I will try to meet her outside of the club for some p4 p. Or maybe I will buy her a house.[/QUOTE]Hold up. I know you are joking, but this is no laughing matter. Let me show how serious this is with a meme.
[QUOTE=Fjrk76;2965167]My first visit to Luxe (oppai bar). I'm getting good at dodging the Nigerian touts on the street. Don't make eye contact. Offer a stern "no" to their advance.[/QUOTE]This is the way. A lot of countries have aggressive targeting of tourists, but harmless if you keep moving and say no. Tuk tuks in Thailand, Nigerian touts in Kabukicho.
[QUOTE=Fjrk76;2965167]5000 Y for lady drinks. Why not 6000 I don't know. I protested to the man that I only got two girls. He mumbled something about being too busy..I got Sachi's number and a coupon for another discounted 40-min.[/QUOTE]Good to know, I've always gotten 3 girls but I avoid busy times. I suppose as long as you liked the girls and got 40 minutes, it worked out. I hope this is not common, but but the 3 girl system is mainly just in case you don't like some. I try to keep expectations low when getting LINE contact, sometimes it works out sometimes it doesn't.
[QUOTE=Fjrk76;2965167]Thanks gain to Traveller X for the strategy.[/QUOTE]No, thank YOU for licking their tits and sharing the fun story about them. I never once got blueballed from chatting with cute girls and licking their tits. Only from dating. Not often in the real world you play with a cute girl first and then got her number after.
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[QUOTE=Tucoh;2965082]I'll travel to Japan in April for almost a month.[/QUOTE]Some of your requests are out of my area of expertise, a few are within. For pink salons, if you see my Manzoku link they are experts who can help. I've done much of the research, you will have to do the rest. I don't believe I can help anyone if they aren't willing to "do the rest" themselves. I'm just pointing the way.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964542&viewfull=1#post2964542[/URL]
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Shizuku THC review
I just met up with Shizuku from THC in Shinjuku. I was looking for a good time with a slutty girl and was told she fit the bill. She's Gold level, so a little more money. But what a little bombshell. I got her for two hours and came in her mouth a couple of times.
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=2703[/URL]
We met and went into a love hotel. She immediately grabbed my hand as we walked. Even though we were definitely a mismatch in terms of looks / age / everything I loved it. I was horny from the very beginning. You're in kabukicho anyway, so when in Rome!
Shizuku is a sexy little thing. She looks like she loves sex as soon as you see her. Her pics in the blog are unedited. So what you see there is exactly who shows up. Petite, tight body, double eyelids, few slutty tramp stamp tattoos in all the right places, jet black hair. You can't tell with clothes but when she takes it off she has a great shape. Perfect perky tits and tight little bum, tight clean pussy with nice lips, smells like expensive perfume, and her mouth tastes like peppermint.
She's billed at 22, close if not exactly right. She's definitely early 20's, but much more mature and experienced in sex. She kept up with me the whole time, never shy, staring into my eyes looking for reactions when she licked under my dick head or stroked me off with her thighs.
Shizuku is great at kissing, great at giving BBBJ, plays with the cum when you shoot it in her mouth. Definite PSE experience. She's also one of the prettiest girls I've ever seen at THC. One of the prettiest overall too if I am being honest.
Her English is probably best described as beginner level. I was too lost in the experience to talk much. But she was able to talk about some different things. She knew all the sex terms and would ask me what I liked, if something felt good, and told me she felt good when she was riding my face. She said she felt more comfortable doing sexual stuff with foreign guys, and I got a sense that was genuine during the actual acts. I meant she really seemed to savor my semen.
I had a great two hours with her. It was one of my better experiences at THC. Glad to see they keep bringing in new girls. I hope they will all be like Shizuku.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2965382]I just met up with Shizuku from THC in Shinjuku. I was looking for a good time with a slutty girl and was told she fit the bill. She's Gold level, so a little more money. But what a little bombshell. I got her for two hours and came in her mouth a couple of times.
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=2703[/URL][/QUOTE]You know how to pick them! No wonder 2 hours, love her look. Reminds me of Leslie K in Socal, alternative look with arm tattoos, young. I notice some shops have tiers like the Gold level you mentioned. It makes a lot of sense, some JAV stars like Aika are Legend tier and you can't even book her without first leveling up by booking regular girls. Some of whom are pretty hot too.
Everyone should post what they feel comfortable, no pressure. I sometimes get PMs from people who had a great trip, it's great to hear and you don't have to post if you don't want. I get it, I was the same way when I started. But for those can, even a short post will help encourage the next person to have a happy memory.
For the same reason, some guys don't want to post "girl X charges Y" for FS. So what I sometimes do is just make a general post saying "1 girl was 10 k, 2 girls was 20 k, etc. " or just a range like "10k-20k is common but I've had girls ask more". Whatever you think is right, since I've had PMs from people saying they were asked a lot more. It's frustrating and I think the solution is to share notes over time and people will figure out where to go. On the other hand, other people have no trouble posting prices. Like I said, that's how most girls make money and how the shop gets business. It's not like they don't want people to know it's available, they do. So do what you feel is right. Thanks for the report!
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2965382]I just met up with Shizuku from THC in Shinjuku. I was looking for a good time with a slutty girl and was told she fit the bill. She's Gold level, so a little more money. But what a little bombshell. I got her for two hours and came in her mouth a couple of times.
I hope they will all be like Shizuku.[/QUOTE]I wonder if the tattoos are an indication of her good attitude? Don't see that often on Japanese women.
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[QUOTE=Fjrk76;2965167]My first visit to Luxe (oppai bar).
2nd girl, Sachi, 24, a little taller, a little less pretty than Haruka, gorgeous smile, slim but with generously sized, natural, western the-cup breasts with just a little sag. I'm a breast man and the sight of her assets made me want to buy her a house. She a little less forward than Haruka, a little more shy. But I know how to be friendly and playful with a girl and open her up. We had fun. I bought her a drink. 3000 Y. She gave me her Line. I will try to meet her outside of the club for some p4 p. Or maybe I will buy her a house.
strategy.[/QUOTE]Curious. Did you ask for the Line # or did she offer it up?
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2964777]Thank you for reporting what you got. Others will follow our clues and go even further. Kira Kira is really convenient and always foreigner friendly. Yokohama is an easy 'half day' trip with cheap and easy access by train. Definitely going at a slow time is better.
Kira Kira is perfect for first timers. fantastic alibis.[/QUOTE]I could not find a website for Kira Kira. Do they have one to your knowledge?
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That post alone makes me want to go to Japan now. Great post!
[QUOTE=RickRock;2965382]I just met up with Shizuku from THC in Shinjuku. I was looking for a good time with a slutty girl and was told she fit the bill. She's Gold level, so a little more money. But what a little bombshell. I got her for two hours and came in her mouth a couple of times.
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=2703[/URL]
We met and went into a love hotel. She immediately grabbed my hand as we walked. Even though we were definitely a mismatch in terms of looks / age / everything I loved it. I was horny from the very beginning. You're in kabukicho anyway, so when in Rome!
Shizuku is a sexy little thing. She looks like she loves sex as soon as you see her. Her pics in the blog are unedited. So what you see there is exactly who shows up. Petite, tight body, double eyelids, few slutty tramp stamp tattoos in all the right places, jet black hair. You can't tell with clothes but when she takes it off she has a great shape. Perfect perky tits and tight little bum, tight clean pussy with nice lips, smells like expensive perfume, and her mouth tastes like peppermint.
She's billed at 22, close if not exactly right. She's definitely early 20's, but much more mature and experienced in sex. She kept up with me the whole time, never shy, staring into my eyes looking for reactions when she licked under my dick head or stroked me off with her thighs.
Shizuku is great at kissing, great at giving BBBJ, plays with the cum when you shoot it in her mouth. Definite PSE experience. She's also one of the prettiest girls I've ever seen at THC. One of the prettiest overall too if I am being honest.
Her English is probably best described as beginner level. I was too lost in the experience to talk much. But she was able to talk about some different things. She knew all the sex terms and would ask me what I liked, if something felt good, and told me she felt good when she was riding my face. She said she felt more comfortable doing sexual stuff with foreign guys, and I got a sense that was genuine during the actual acts. I meant she really seemed to savor my semen.
I had a great two hours with her. It was one of my better experiences at THC. Glad to see they keep bringing in new girls. I hope they will all be like Shizuku.[/QUOTE]
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[B]Kira Kira[/B]
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2965402]I could not find a website for Kira Kira. Do they have one to your knowledge?[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://kirakira.eroticguide.tokyo/[/URL] Kira Kira website for foreigners.
[URL]https://kirakira.yokohama/[/URL] Kira Kira website for Japanese.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/FPZJmDsaAjvraKE6A[/URL] Google Maps link to find it on foot from either station.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963459&viewfull=1#post2963459[/URL] Kira Kira mega guide (Yokohama).
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963631&viewfull=1#post2963631[/URL] My first visit to Kira Kira.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964777&viewfull=1#post2964777[/URL] Kira Kira then a 12 minute walk to lunch at Sakuragicho.
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2965401]Curious. Did you ask for the Line # or did she offer it up?[/QUOTE]
I've seen it both ways. I would keep expectations low.
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2965400]I wonder if the tattoos are an indication of her good attitude? Don't see that often on Japanese women.[/QUOTE]
It's not common but getting more common. I've seen a lot of women, it doesn't really tell you about attitude.
[B]Guides[/B]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2946666#post2946666[/URL] Japan beginner guide
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2959611&viewfull=1#post2959611[/URL] Oppai pub guide
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963461#post2963461[/URL] How to get to Manzoku, other info
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964542&viewfull=1#post2964542[/URL] My first oppai pub experience
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963634&viewfull=1#post2963634[/URL] Some DH info
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2962969&viewfull=1#post2962969[/URL] More DH info
[B]Shops Mentioned[/B]
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/[/URL] Tokyo Hentai Club <- Most recent post by RickRock
[URL]https://escort-taitanic.com/[/URL] Taitanic Yokohama <- Past post by RickRock
[URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/[/URL] Tokyo Amateur Escorts
[URL]https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html[/URL] Gingira, girls generally young and photo accurate. Trash talking by request
[URL]https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/luxe-story/[/URL] Luxe Oppai pub, if you speak no Japanese and wonder what it's like to be Japanese..
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963832&viewfull=1#post2963832[/URL] Random list of foreigner friendly shops by Yoasobi
There are a lot more choices but these are some that have been mentioned. You will have to research them yourself since my expertise is in oppai pubs and everything below the fs level. I get most of my fs in the USA between jgirls and kgirls (guides available), then I focus on oppai pubs in Japan which don't exist in the USA.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2965391]Everyone should post what they feel comfortable, no pressure. I sometimes get PMs from people who had a great trip, it's great to hear and you don't have to post if you don't want. I get it, I was the same way when I started. But for those can, even a short post will help encourage the next person to have a happy memory.
For the same reason, some guys don't want to post "girl X charges Y" for FS. So what I sometimes do is just make a general post saying "1 girl was 10 k, 2 girls was 20 k, etc. " or just a range like "10k-20k is common but I've had girls ask more". Whatever you think is right, since I've had PMs from people saying they were asked a lot more. It's frustrating and I think the solution is to share notes over time and people will figure out where to go. On the other hand, other people have no trouble posting prices. Like I said, that's how most girls make money and how the shop gets business. It's not like they don't want people to know it's available, they do. So do what you feel is right. Thanks for the report![/QUOTE]This is good advice.
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Thank you Traveler X!
Mr. Traveler X!
Just want to thank you for the awesome information on Tokyo and around!! Been reading up on some of these the past few days when I've had the time, and hopefully I will be able to try something on my short 3 trip to Japan! Only screw up is I'm going to be around Narita airport. : the But will try to head to the places you mentioned.
Once again thanks you're an awesome guy!! Cheers!!
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2965513][B]Kira Kira[/B]
[URL]https://kirakira.eroticguide.tokyo/[/URL] Kira Kira website for foreigners.
[URL]https://kirakira.yokohama/[/URL] Kira Kira website for Japanese.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/FPZJmDsaAjvraKE6A[/URL] Google Maps link to find it on foot from either station.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963459&viewfull=1#post2963459[/URL] Kira Kira mega guide (Yokohama).
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963631&viewfull=1#post2963631[/URL] My first visit to Kira Kira.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964777&viewfull=1#post2964777[/URL] Kira Kira then a 12 minute walk to lunch at Sakuragicho.
I've seen it both ways. I would keep expectations low.
It's not common but getting more common. I've seen a lot of women, it doesn't really tell you about attitude.
[B]Guides[/B]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2946666#post2946666[/URL] Japan beginner guide
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2959611&viewfull=1#post2959611[/URL] Oppai pub guide
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963461#post2963461[/URL] How to get to Manzoku, other info
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964542&viewfull=1#post2964542[/URL] My first oppai pub experience
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963634&viewfull=1#post2963634[/URL] Some DH info
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2962969&viewfull=1#post2962969[/URL] More DH info
[B]Shops Mentioned[/B]
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/[/URL] Tokyo Hentai Club <- Most recent post by RickRock
[URL]https://escort-taitanic.com/[/URL] Taitanic Yokohama <- Past post by RickRock
[URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/[/URL] Tokyo Amateur Escorts
[URL]https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html[/URL] Gingira, girls generally young and photo accurate. Trash talking by request
[URL]https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/luxe-story/[/URL] Luxe Oppai pub, if you speak no Japanese and wonder what it's like to be Japanese..
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963832&viewfull=1#post2963832[/URL] Random list of foreigner friendly shops by Yoasobi
There are a lot more choices but these are some that have been mentioned. You will have to research them yourself since my expertise is in oppai pubs and everything below the fs level. I get most of my fs in the USA between jgirls and kgirls (guides available), then I focus on oppai pubs in Japan which don't exist in the USA.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks Again
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2965513][B]Kira Kira[/B]
[URL]https://kirakira.eroticguide.tokyo/[/URL] Kira Kira website for foreigners.
[URL]https://kirakira.yokohama/[/URL] Kira Kira website for Japanese.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/FPZJmDsaAjvraKE6A[/URL] Google Maps link to find it on foot from either station.
There are a lot more choices but these are some that have been mentioned. You will have to research them yourself since my expertise is in oppai pubs and everything below the fs level. I get most of my fs in the USA between jgirls and kgirls (guides available), then I focus on oppai pubs in Japan which don't exist in the USA.[/QUOTE]Traveler once again many thanks for the great response and info.
I have 6 days in Tokyo after spending 4 in Osaka / Kyoto and 2 in Hakone. So time is somewhat limited since I will be doing tourist stuff. I had planned on making GFE Soapland my soapland experience simply because of the foreigner orientation which I know is a lazy way out in deciding. But the girls at Kira Kira look a lot more appealing. So which shop would you recommend? I may not have time to travel for a 2nd soapie run.
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[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2965801]Traveler once again many thanks for the great response and info.
I have 6 days in Tokyo after spending 4 in Osaka / Kyoto and 2 in Hakone. So time is somewhat limited since I will be doing tourist stuff. I had planned on making GFE Soapland my soapland experience simply because of the foreigner orientation which I know is a lazy way out in deciding. But the girls at Kira Kira look a lot more appealing. So which shop would you recommend? I may not have time to travel for a 2nd soapie run.[/QUOTE]
You have to make the call. I only know Kira Kira is reliable, maybe GFE Soapland is good too. Here's my criteria - Kira Kira's customers are almost all Japanese and they've operated a very long time. Japanese customers have a higher expectation of service than tourists. So I already knew before even my first visit that the service would be good. My budget is time so I've always had a rule to choose "for Japanese" shops whenever possible. So while I recommend Luxe to people who can't speak Japanese, Leicester and Hosekibako are better for those who can. A few users have reported inconsistency on service or occasional GPS pricing (in the case of DH) at "for foreigner" fs shops. They are worth trying, but with DH be prepared to negotiate (I know you are asking about soap but this post is to help everyone). So I'm just saying if you only have one chance, maybe try the "most reliable" place. But that's just my criteria.
[B]Delivery Health Negotiation[/B]
I know some guys prefer Delivery Health, and a few have PM'd me about girls quoting high prices. To sum it up, you say 10k or 20k first, don't let her say a number first. Nothing is guaranteed with DH. I used to write guides on negotiating fs with strippers in VIP. Here's two summaries for how to negotiate in Japan:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2962146&viewfull=1#post2962146[/URL] Negotiate first at DH
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2961999&highlight=negotiate#post2961999[/URL] Negotiate first at DH
I say this because sometimes girls at "for foreigner" places look at tourists different, thinking they have lots of money and won't be repeat customers. That combo can lead to this:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964193&highlight=negotiate#post2964193[/URL]
DH requires some trial and error, here is one user who tried 2 girls. First he didn't want fs with, second girl he did for 10K and called her stellar. Just goes to show that a great girl will take 10k while another girl who barely does the minimum can ask 35k thinking she only needs a few guys to take it.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964148#post2964148[/URL]
If you really want to know, here is the girl's perspective on guys. Respect the adversary, if you understand how they think you can skip to the conclusion and both be happy fast.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO6JXWfXSRs[/URL]
[B]Public Transportation[/B]
[QUOTE=Mich1234;2965738]Just want to thank you for the awesome information on Tokyo and around!! Been reading up on some of these the past few days when I've had the time, and hopefully I will be able to try something on my short 3 trip to Japan! Only screw up is I'm going to be around Narita airport. : the But will try to head to the places you mentioned.[/QUOTE]
If it's 3 days you want to stay in Tokyo, most things like food and fun are really cheap compared to USA or Europe. Use public transportation like the train. Orfrom Narita Airport, I always take the "airport limousine bus" which is a direct route luxury bus with AC, wifi. They are on time to the minute and depart to all major destinations including many hotels. Make sure to stand at the right numbered sign, give your ticket to the guy and ask him in English if "Okay". Lots of airport staff can help you buy tickets and find the spot.
If you want oppai pubs or delivery health, head towards Shinjuku (or Shibuya for some DH). If you want soapland and are interested in Kira Kira Yokohama, head to Yokohama station. You have three options: Yokohama to Hinodecho (4 minute train) then 5 minute walk to Kira Kira, or Sakuragicho (food heaven) and 13 minute walk to Kira Kira, or direct taxi from Yokohama. See the google map link, notice at the moment of this post it's 2AM in Japan so if you tried to google maps it it would tell you to walk 35 minutes, because all the trains are done. Try it again daytime and it will tell you better. =)
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/FPZJmDsaAjvraKE6A[/URL] Google Map Link to Kira Kira
I am taking a break from posting but will try to organize info better later. It's better if others post their reviews than for me to repeat information too much. What happens is people tend to ask for things on page 2 through 5, yes it's possible to read it all but there is a better way. I'll create a new thread in the 'user blog' section but don't know when. If you can find it, you passed the test.
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Trip report
So I went back to Luxe last night and got the same girl (Renka) as my first trip here:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964193&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2964193.
Unfortunately not as good of a time. She asked for a drink within 3 minutes of sitting down, which I happily got her but it was a stark difference from the first time. Then she said her birthday was coming up later this month, which I said I won't be here since I'm going home soon. She said, that's ok I want to celebrate it now with you. Oh boy here we go. I said how can we celebrate? She said let's get a small champagne bottle. On luxe's website they don't even list the prices of bottles. I had to think fast and said ok I'll come back in 2 days. She got all happy. These girls can smell blood from a mile away. They see a guy come back for them and it's game on.
The problem is that I have multiple 7,000 yen entry coupon cards and I want to see other girls, but now not sure how to go in, get other girls without possibly angering her LOL.
Another note, there were a group of Koreans to my left and a group of Chinese to my right, and they weren't kissing or fondling titties at all (for the entire 40 minutes I was there). The girls just had their legs over them. Those guys were too shy. After a few minutes, you got to take control and go for it otherwise the girls will love to just sit there without any work.
Total damage: 130,000 + 2,000 LD = 150,000. (Included 4,000 nomination discount since I got her card from the first visit.).
Polaris soapland in Ikebukuro.
Massive fail here. Now instead of following all the great advice that I did read here about kira kira, GFE soapland, I thought why travel all that way when I'm staying in Ikebukuro and I can simply walk within 10 minutes to a soapland? What could go wrong?
I went at 10 am without reservation, tencho said 330,000 for 70 minutes or 290,000 for 50 minutes. I chose 70 minutes. Then he only shows me 1 card, says she's very cute. Major red flag, but small head overtook and I said ok. Now I'm absolutely 100% sure they keep this girl strictly for foreigners. She was short, thick thighs, overweight, dark skin, acne scars, looked more SE Asian than Japanese. There is absolutely no way on earth any Japanese man would find her acceptable. Have you ever seen a girl like this on any ad or billboard? 0, nada, zilch.
And this is my fault but I assumed all soaplands include nuru gel body slide. Instead it was just a bed and bath inside, no room for any mat. I actually look forward more to body slide than FS. Overall what a total disaster. We had 20 minutes left, but I bounced early. I could tell this confused the poor girl, she was very sweet and kind. I actually think it was a cruel joke from the tencho recommending her.
Anyway in summary, in order to play and have fun here, you really need high Japanese language skills. It's not like you will come here and get with JAV tier girls. (Unless you go to tobita shinichi in Osaka.) Plus it's not super fun to point, grunt, and use Google translate. You do this a few times and it gets boring fast.
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[QUOTE=Bribs000;2965922]So I went back to Luxe last night and got the same girl (Renka) as my first trip here:
Total damage: 130,000 + 2,000 LD = 150,000. (Included 4,000 nomination discount since I got her card from the first visit.)..[/QUOTE]So over US $1,000? That is getting expensive.
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4 photos
I created a new user blog to make it easier to find my guides:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4403-Japan-guides-focusing-on-Oppai-Pubs-Soapland-Delivery-Health&p=2966012&viewfull=1#post2966012[/URL] Traveler X guides
[QUOTE=Bribs000;2965922]So I went back to Luxe last night and got the same girl (Renka) as my first trip here:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964193&viewfull=1#post2964193[/URL]
Unfortunately not as good of a time. She asked for a drink within 3 minutes of sitting down, which I happily got her but it was a stark difference from the first time. Then she said her birthday was coming up later this month, which I said I won't be here since I'm going home soon. She said, that's ok I want to celebrate it now with you. Oh boy here we go. I said how can we celebrate? She said let's get a small champagne bottle. On luxe's website they don't even list the prices of bottles. I had to think fast and said ok I'll come back in 2 days. She got all happy. These girls can smell blood from a mile away. They see a guy come back for them and it's game on.
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Welcome back! Yes, your paragraph sums it up. Girls are looking for whales (rich guys) to come back and spend 3x - 10x as much on them. To be clear, you don't have to. Her tits and smile are just as sweet! She will lay on her charm since she knows she's what you came here for. Look on the bright side, you made the perfect response which is "haha maybe I will do that NEXT TIME" even if tomorrow was your flight, or you plan on licking her friend's tits instead. Everybody happy. I wrote about "whale hunting" when I advised against doing VIP rooms (spending 3x) in July:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2959611&viewfull=1#post2959611[/URL] No need for VIP at Luxe (July)
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927688&viewfull=1#post2927688[/URL] No need for VIP at Luxe (July)
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2959611&viewfull=1#post2959611[/URL] Oppai pub guide with links to 7 posts
[URL]https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/[/URL] Luxe website
[URL]https://www.cabaseku.jp/kanto/kabukichou/shop/1537/[/URL] Leicester, if you know some Japanese
[URL]https://www.hosekibako-shinjuku.com/[/URL] Hosekinobako, if you know some Japanese
[QUOTE=Bribs000;2965922]The problem is that I have multiple 7,000 yen entry coupon cards and I want to see other girls, but now not sure how to go in, get other girls without possibly angering her LOL.[/QUOTE]
That is a wonderful problem! There is some chance she'll see you lick her rival's tits. But isn't that amazing? She can see with every passionate kiss you give her rival, that you are not her pet. Renka probably knows her job already, it's not on you. There are some hostess jdramas using this as a plot line, but you are the main character. Always be a polite but firm gentleman, give a decent excuse and let her save face. If you dare, you can be like me and say "I has such a good time with you Renka, that I wanted to see if it was even possible with any other woman."
I would love to have multiple 7000 yen cards for girls I want to revisit. Having a woman you like watch you make out with another girl you also like, is something people pray to God for. You are on your way to being the next Traveler X, keep pointing the way.
By the way, this was your post 1 month ago asking about oppai pubs. You were concerned Luxe looks very high end. Japan does a good job impressing us, enjoy it. Many people are nervous their first time to a strip club or oppai pub, but you are the customer. As you can see, it's okay to go alone and the girls are going to take care of you. Not a problem as you can see. Congratulations for joining the 1% of tourists who have an extra happy memory. Tell your mom Japan is a beautiful country with four seasons and that you'd love to go back and see more.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2959611&viewfull=1#post2959611[/URL] Update (Nov 2024) - Bribs is researching
[QUOTE=Bribs000;2965922]Another note, there were a group of Koreans to my left and a group of Chinese to my right, and they weren't kissing or fondling titties at all (for the entire 40 minutes I was there). The girls just had their legs over them. Those guys were too shy. After a few minutes, you got to take control and go for it otherwise the girls will love to just sit there without any work.[/QUOTE]
All who love Japanese women are brothers, no matter where you are from. If you are listening to this message from Korea or China, please lick their tits. You don't have to, but you know you want to. My first time I asked "Hey, I heard you can hop on me?" and she did. "And can I see your tits?" She showed me. "I can lick them?" Douzou (go ahead) she said! I am not religious but I gave a quick thanks to God and my mom for being born, and I began. I became Traveler X that day.
This is an OPPAI pub. Oppai means breasts. Don't offend the Japanese by acting like their tits are not good enough for you. Yes I like to take things slow and flirt a bit, but you might have 10 minutes with a girl so have her hop on halfway at about 5. And yes, I get it. Your friends or coworkers are sitting there with you, so you have two options. Option 1 is you make a secret pact that nobody snitches on your girlfriends and wives. Option 2 is you go to oppai pubs and strip clubs alone like Bribs and Traveler X. I recommend option 2.
[QUOTE=Bribs000;2965922]Massive fail here. Now instead of following all the great advice that I did read here about kira kira, GFE soapland, I thought why travel all that way when I'm staying in Ikebukuro and I can simply walk within 10 minutes to a soapland? What could go wrong?[/QUOTE]
There are a lot of "no name" places that open up shop where lots of people walk by and rely on "I need sex now" business. We have to rely on intel or it's just going to be random. If you got 1 bad girl at an oppai pub, you still have 2 other girls and your beer and it only cost 7000 yen. So you could say it's a 2000 loss. Soaplands are 15x the risk in that sense and a once in a while thing. Good shops will generally have Japanese girls working, making rare exceptions. They are going to focus on repeat customers who are happy. Some of the better ones will be located off the busy streets, because the rent is cheaper and happy repeat customers know to go straight there.
[QUOTE=Bribs000;2965922]Anyway in summary, in order to play and have fun here, you really need high Japanese language skills. It's not like you will come here and get with JAV tier girls. (Unless you go to tobita shinichi in Osaka.) Plus it's not super fun to point, grunt, and use Google translate. You do this a few times and it gets boring fast.[/QUOTE]
The better girls will take care of you no problem. I find having just one clear statement at the start of the sessions is all you need. For example, "I want to try the standard soapland course " and start with that. But at any point, you can take over and ask for oral sex or start full sex. For example I really enjoyed nuru but after 10 minutes suggested we go to the bed. With a confident smile I can point at the bed and say "Let's go". And use the blowjob hand motion. I do that and point at my dick and let me tell you 100% of girls understood and got right to it.
For those coming from the USA, certain regions also have fs options for jgirls and kgirls (Japanese and Korean). The service is excellent, on average superior to even Japan. Typically 320-350 USD an hour, and most jgirls offer video and bb for an extra fee. ISG has a sister site USAG with more info for those who cannot come to Japan. I cannot help with screening, just pointing the way. OC and NYC examples:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC[/URL] Orange county HYA
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31130-Korean-Agency-BB[/URL] Orange county Korean BB
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan[/URL] NYC, mostly jgirls
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Thanks in advance Traveller X
My upcoming first Japan trip next month but already gathering information. Special thanks to you Traveller X, your the man! You are the most valuable asset here. The information you provides on Japan's underground industry and its unique subcultures is unparalleled. Insights into everything, from ordinary massages to high-end soaplands, offering a level of expertise that's unmatched. I"m not someone who's immediately looking for full-service experiences, so from what I'm reading, the 'oppai' scene seems like it could be a perfect fit for me, considering as well my zero ability to speak Japanese LOL. First and foremost I will be focusing on the typical tourist spots like Tokyo, Kyoto, and Osaka, with all the incredible experiences, rather than a full blown mongering trip like what I do in Thailand. But during my 3 week stay will for sure frequent some fun zones. Are the maid cafes any interesting in terms of adult fun? I am ok with all the flirt and fun, I don't get blue balls easily so that might sound like another good option.
Once again thanks Traveller X.
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Boots in Tokyo
Great pieces of information in this thread, thanks to the vets. Huge shout out to Traveler X,Rick Rock, et al.
I am looking for a consolidated Google map of the establishments in Kabukicho and other areas.
Is this somewhere buried in the pages here? Not able to fish out. Apologies if I overlooked it.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2948069]Plenty of time to take a bus ride to Shinjuku for all sorts of exciting entertainment, restaurants, bars, clubs.
The Tokyu Express bus picks up right outside the terminal every 10-15 minutes, arrives at Shinjuku Kabukicho Tower in about 1.5 hours. Return to the airport the same way.
Plenty of hotels within couple hundred feet, APA Kabukicho, Premier Cabin, ect. Also couple dozens less-known hotels rent by the hour or all night. A sauna / health club lets clients stay all night for $20.
Lots of good restaurants, AYCE Wagyu beef, sea food, ramen ect, good, delicious and surprisingly cheap. I really like the 24/7 Yakitory near the cinema and K Tower, delish $1 brochettes of meats and seafood grilled over charcoal, down with beers while ogling their very cute student waitresses.
Hentai and Soapland branches are within walking distances of Kabukicho Tower. Look them up.
A few hot street girls hang around Okubo hospital. Not sure if they are still there. Homeless teenagers hangout, play games at the plaza in front of the K Tower.
Subtracting 3 hours bus rides from and to the airport, you still have 14 hours for sensory overload in exotic Shinjuku. Haneda is only half hour bus ride from Shinjuku.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips. I am a layover at Haneda coming up, and I plan on exploring Shinjuku and find some actions if possible. My flight will land at Haneda at 8 PM and my next flight leave at 10 AM the next day. I wonder if there are adult entertainment that will open 24 HR.
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Trip report
Hello everyone,
This is my first post. I was in Japan for two weeks, and the information here was invaluable. I'll report on the places I visited and how my experiences were. For reference, I am an American and cannot speak Japanese even a little.
Luxxe (make-out bar).
I went to Luxxe twice. Foreign friendly. The first nice was great, but the second time was very mediocre. Experiences here depend on the luck of the draw in terms of the girls you get. Some will take their top off, sit in your lap, and make out with you, and others will only talk. It is worth the visit if you have never been to an oppai bar, but once the novelty wears off, it loses its charm a bit.
Lovely hands (erotic massage parlor).
There have been mixed reviews about this place. I had a very mediocre experience. I felt I paid a lot for mediocre service from a very average-looking provider. Having said that, like in most places quality of experience will depend on the girl. Knowing what I know now, I would pay the extra 2500 to 3500 yen and nominate the hottest / best girl available. I saw an absolute smoke show coming out of another room as I was leaving.
Soaplands tried:
Kira Kira: Extensively reviewed in this thread. It lives up to the hype. Great service as always. Average to cute-looking women providing extremely good service at a non-extortive asking price.
GFE Soapland: After Kira Kira, I wanted to try something a little more high-end. Again, in all likelihood, experiences vary from girl to girl. The highly rated girl I originally booked canceled her shift a day prior and I went with another provider. She was okay to good, but I would not repeat at that price point. GFE soapland is pricey.
DH (Direct Health AKA escort services):
Tokyo Hentai Club: Got lucky with an absolute smoke show. Quite possibly the best sexual experience I have had in my life. I will not go into details on the encounter as the girl explicitly asked me to keep specifics a secret, but that alone should tell you what you need to know. Ngl, I think I fell in love a little bit.
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[QUOTE=DogLife;2966228]Great pieces of information in this thread, thanks to the vets. Huge shout out to Traveler X,Rick Rock, et al.
I am looking for a consolidated Google map of the establishments in Kabukicho and other areas.
Is this somewhere buried in the pages here? Not able to fish out. Apologies if I overlooked it.[/QUOTE]Not that I know of, but Google maps is excellent these days. What you can do is write down a list of the places you are interested in. Then just punch them into Google maps. They will all come up.
IMO Kabukicho isn't all that great. But there are some places there where you can get good service:
Tokyo Hentai Club.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/xprVDYX4qBwegzWe7[/URL]
Asian Feelings.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/gs2PXqNSc15pYZTL6[/URL]
Madonna.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/c59VGEgzHPaxgEiH6[/URL]
Lovely Hands
https://maps.app.goo.gl/pXWZCcytZ7DcpSuy7
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My experience so far: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.
Alright, After doing much research on this website and digging around on the linked websites I started my journey in Tokyo. This was my first time traveling to Japan with 0 Japanese skills, so Travel X and other posters suggestions really came through.
[B]The Good- GFE Soapland:[/B]
After looking around at the options at GFE Soapland, I decided to go with Ria. Oh she's not available despite what the website says. How about Mika? Neither was she. So I finally landed on Marin. [URL]https://gfe-japan.net/profile?cp_id=2215[/URL]
She looked pretty fine, like most of the girls at GFE. So appointment booked, a quick 20 minute train ride later I made it to the location. I noticed a few more soaplands along the way and made a mental note of it. The facility was nice, I walked in and initially wanted the 60 min option. They pushed me to get the 75 minute options (or was it 90?) since that included the Nuru oil massage. I decided to go with it. A few minutes later out came Marin, she guided me up to her room. The whole facility was flashy (covered in pink lights) and had mirrors everywhere. Marin was not quite 27, she was def in her 30's. But that was expected. One rule of thumb I figured out with these facilities, if they say the girl is 21, she's likely 25. If they say she's 26, she's likely in her 30's. Didn't matter, Marin was still good looking, and the quality of service she provided made her stellar.
As soon as we got in, she started undressing me and started the BBBJ. It was surprising, and surprisingly good. She claimed she couldn't wait, but I told her let's do the Nuru first. I needed to get the full benefit of the money I paid. The slime was quite hot and relaxing. We bathed before and after the Nuru session. She played slip and slide with my front and my back. She licked me everywhere, even sliding her her tongue between my cheeks (not my thing, but still felt good). We had some great DFK, she was just genuinely enthusiastic with everything she did. After the last bath and shower, we got on to the bed. And a passionate session later, I was spent. Overall this was just a fantastic experience, and set the bar unrealistically high (I'll explain in a bit) for me.
[B]Return to GFE Soapland:[/B]
This time I picked Shuri.
[URL]https://gfe-japan.net/profile?cp_id=2340[/URL]
I wanted someone in her mid 20's, and figured the 21 yo would actually be that. When I saw her, she was absolutely stunning. About as close to her pics as could be. However, when she smiled, I saw some of the yellowest teeth in my life. She may have been a heavy smoker I guess. I didn't pick the Nuru option this time, I just needed to experience that once. Either way, I had a great session, and she was down for everything. Cosplay, BBBJ and the actual session were very good. She treated me well, but Marin still outshone her.
[B]The BAD. HTC Tokyo:[/B]
I decided to venture further up north and seek out the well reviewed HTC. I saw this girl Jennifer.
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=1232.[/URL]
She was an absolute tattooed stunner. Somehow she was a "Silver" girl, despite being one of the better looking ones. She looked half Japanese, but her blog pics looked like she was pure white. I booked her for that afternoon. I had some trouble finding the location, and the trains were delayed because of a person that was on the tracks. I messaged them and apologized for it. I finally made it about 30 minutes late. I went downstairs to the basement to enter the facility. A short lesbian looking Japanese girl greeted me and took my name. I said I was there for Jennifer. Then she asked me "Excuse me, are you from **insert Middle East country here* I said "No, I am from the states". I could see some bad news coming. She says "I am sorry, Jennifer does not like to see Muslims". First off, what the fuck? I am not a Muslim, and the country my family is from is not known as a Muslim country, besides which I'm an agnostic and spent all my life in the States. Not that any of this mattered since she I doubt she would understand what that meant. I said "I'm not a Muslim", she apologized and asked me to pick from another basic looking girl that was available. I considered it, but I was honestly very hurt from the racism. I get some places don't take foreigners because of language issues, but making a special exception for me based on my color, that ruined my day. I left very hurt. Even a sex worker made exceptions based on some ignorant predisposed notions. On my ride home, I started thinking about it. It's likely she had some bad experience from other people from my ilk who are very much entrenched in their backward culture. She's human after all, and can choose who she decides to serve. So I decided to stop being upset and let it go (I messaged them and said I understand why she rejected "my" people, and it was okay) and made my appointment with Shuri from GFE (see last paragraph).
[B]The UGLY - Random spot in Kabukicho[/B]
A few days later I decided to head into Kabukicho and spend some time at Luxe. I'd agree with Traveler X. Try this spot once, and then move on to actually fucking women. It was a cool experience, and I got quite drunk from all the free beer and this hot chick that made out with me. I left a bit later than I expected, and tried to find a spot nearby. I spoke to the information stand guy, and asked if he could find me some "black gals" (it's always been my favorite in JAVs). He took me to a spot, but the wait inside was long. So he asked if I wanted to go somewhere else, I was quite horny and really needed to get laid. So I agreed, I can't quite remember where he took me. But it was a dark and dingy place. The guy at the reception was quite nice and friendly. The place was cheap. About 14,000. I picked this short girl from a stack of photos he showed me. I walked inside, and it was filled with tiny rooms with curtains on the outside. There was barely room for 1 mattress on the floor. A short chubby, Thai looking girl with stubby legs approached me, gave me some fresh towels, and asked me to take a shower. I followed her instructions. When I went back in waiting for the girl I picked, the chubby girl came back in and started to undress. I was a bit shocked, this maybe the ugliest girl I was about to have sex with. But I really needed a pop (in retrospect I should have gone home and watched porn). She said she'd need another 4 K for a BBBJ, and 10 K for a BBFS (ummm fuck no on both). She gave me a semi decent CBJ, and then got on top. We switched to missionary, but I really needed to not see her from the front. The doggy style was somewhat worse, because she stunk so bad. I doubt she ever took a shower despite making sure all her customers did. I couldn't finish it despite being drunk and stupid. I stopped, and she cleaned me up with alcohol wipes. I took another shower, and watched her stand around with a towel wrapped around her, talking to the staff. I'm a 100% sure this was for show, and she'd just wait for me to leave before moving on sans shower. I left thoroughly disgusted with myself and disappointed. I went home and showered some more.
[B]BONUS - The Rip Off in Kyoto.[/B]
Alright this is from my experience in Kyoto. I couldn't find many resources for action on this website. I think the best ones I found were from Traveler X's links to [URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com[/URL]. The sites were confusing, and not very clear on what they offered. Soaplands were not common, I only found erotic massage parlors (which from what I recall only give you a handjob? I decided to try an outcall service for the first time. I figured I'd get better luck here. I found this fine sexy tattooed girl named Meisa from Gals network Kyoto.
[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/kyoto/A2601/galsnet_kyoto/girlid-55556569/[/URL]
Little did I know, my attraction to tattooed women would fail me again. I spoke with them through the yoasobi chat (I needed to create an account). And settled on 37400 yen. I figured it made sense since she'd have to travel alone and this prob covered the risk factor. I think I actually ended up talking directly to her. She arrived fairly quickly, when I opened the door to let her in, she didn't have the most friendly attitude. She looked older than her pics, her face wasn't very pretty. But still a sexy body nevertheless. She took a shower and then got nude and on my bed. She pulled out a bottle of something, and asked me to lay down on my back. She then proceeded to give me the weakest handjob I ever had. She handled my dick with her thumb and index finger like it was radioactive. I asked if I could touch her, and then proceeded to do so, suck on her tits. I even ventured down and gave her some DATY, figured it'd loosen her up. I moved up to kiss her, but she refused. Then I asked her to give me a BJ, she looked annoyed and confused. Then claimed this wasn't allowed, and obviously not sex either. What a fucking disappointment. I couldn't argue, because the chat specifically said "NO SEX OR WE CALL POLICE". I thought this was just their way of covering themselves, but I was wrong. It seems like nothing's really available in Kyoto. I still found her hot, and let her jack me off while I sucked on her tits. I finished, she cleaned up and chatted with me. Then while she was showing me things in her phone, I could clearly see a timer, counting down form 10 minutes. I let her leave, disappointed again. More so because this was an expensive mistake. I now ached for the amazing services of Marin.
I'm planning to hit up Osaka next, hoping for a better experience. I'm still finding navigating the sex industry there quite confusing. So I'm open to any suggestions. Thank you all!
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Hello Einstein!
Guys,
Today made my first foray though I am in the Land of the Rising Sun for the past 2 weeks and was ridden with work and non-mongering adventures.
Taking the cue from the experts here visited Luxe. Thought there was an initial SNAFU with Google Maps taking me to the alley behind the street and accosting Nigerian sales reps by the dozens.
Now coming to Luxe, it was great and thanks to you guys for directing me here, the positive side the girls were all Japanese (at least to me) and nice and sweet. The negative (not really) was opted for the 45 minutes and it passed like a breeze and it felt like a few minutes. Hello Einstein!
Got a rotation of 3 girls. Though they were nice, but I was looking around and felt that the better looking ones were booked by regulars and groups where champagne were flowing.
However had a good time and the 10 minutes with each girl felt like more of a preview / marketing of the girl where the bait was being cast for the long game.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2948069]
Lots of good restaurants, AYCE Wagyu beef, sea food, ramen ect, good, delicious and surprisingly cheap. I really like the 24/7 Yakitory near the cinema and K Tower, delish $1 brochettes of meats and seafood grilled over charcoal, down with beers while ogling their very cute student waitresses.
Hentai and Soapland branches are within walking distances of Kabukicho Tower. Look them up.
[/QUOTE]Kapitan. Nice to see you in this thread, thanks to your huge help in Tijuana intel earlier. Looks like I am following your footsteps.
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Luxe made be horny and I wanted to further my luck in the evening for some more tease.
Wandered around Kabukicho and found another joint but it was strongly anti-gaijin. The entrance had an intimidating "Japanese Only / No foreigners" signage.
So wandered off and went to the peep show on the street opposite godzilla. It was a different experience and gave the vibe that you are transported to the 80's.
The show was not so bad and for 2200 yen, spending 20 minutes for an experience I would never repeat was OK.
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I know there are other questions on this thread, but I'm only an expert on a few things so try to answer what I know. I believe most of my knowledge is best seen here on the user blog section:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4403-Japan-guides-focusing-on-Oppai-Pubs-Soapland-Delivery-Health&p=2966012&viewfull=1#post2966012[/URL]
[QUOTE=Nasah;2966736]This is my first post. I was in Japan for two weeks, and the information here was invaluable. I'll report on the places I visited and how my experiences were. For reference, I am an American and cannot speak Japanese even a little.[/QUOTE]Thank you for sharing your experience. I think your post really sums everything up. Oppai pubs are a cheap Japan specialty, I think it's worth checking out for most guys one time. Then the novelty wears off, I get that most guys want FS. A few guys like me find it magical, we all want something different. Amazing that we can visit Luxe even if we speak no Japanese. Kira Kira is cheap and reliable for beginners, they've been in business decades for a reason. I expect a decent looking women, my first girl was cute but a little thick, nice tits with good attitude and personality, fantastic service and worshipped me like a god. It was a refreshing thing to do right before lunch.
As you saw with Lovely hands and DH, there are all kinds of girls and some luck is involved. Though you can at least pick / reserve a girl by photo to get your body type even if the photo doesn't show face. Researching intel and reviews is another way, if you liked one of Rick Rock's girls and are patient you could check her schedule and reserve her. But not everyone has the luxury of time. After trying various girls, you found your dream girl. There is no guarantee, but we are here to help.
I will nominate your report for distinction since it touches on a little of everything. Thank you!
[QUOTE=DogLife;2966989]Taking the cue from the experts here visited Luxe. Thought there was an initial SNAFU with Google Maps taking me to the alley behind the street and accosting Nigerian sales reps by the dozens.
Now coming to Luxe, it was great and thanks to you guys for directing me here, the positive side the girls were all Japanese (at least to me) and nice and sweet. The negative (not really) was opted for the 45 minutes and it passed like a breeze and it felt like a few minutes. Hello Einstein!
Got a rotation of 3 girls. Though they were nice, but I was looking around and felt that the better looking ones were booked by regulars and groups where champagne were flowing.[/QUOTE]Thanks for mentioning this. There is only ONE rule everyone should follow in Kabukicho for your safety. [B]Do NOT talk or engage with any nigerian touts, just walk past them and you are perfectly safe[/B]. That's all you have to do! They are scammers and some of my friends have been extorted at bars. One bar had a sign saying "membership is 100000 yen to enter" ($660 USD), so if they lead you in they will then demand you pay it. There's too many variations to list, it's always dumb stuff like that. I have never once been scammed in Japan, because I was warned and ignored them. Manzoku will never take you to a scam shop btw. You can use Manzoku to get into every shop that will allow foreigners. That's how I go into Hosekinobako and Leicester, because even though I can speak Japanese I don't want to prove it to them in-person, I'd rather Manzoku speed dial shops and get the green light. They greet me reverently when I show up, no language test (the Manzoku staff can tell I speak Japanese and are on my side).
About 40 minutes passing in a breeze, I know how it is but at least it's damn cheap at 7000 yen ($45). I will say the girls you get are the same as every regular customer. A few guys will return and nominate their favorite girl from last time, but that's the minority. So yes, you will see some guys with big grins sitting with some hotties but later in the night I got his girl anyways. A reminder that it is almost twice as expensive to extend 40 minutes as to enter, but if you find your girl then sure you stay. I once stayed with a girl 3 hours. Usually, I leave or extend just once to make it 80 minutes but that time I found my girl.
If you can speak Japanese (maybe 2 years level), you can bar hop to Leicester or Hosekinobako for their "first timer" discount, it was 6000 yen happy hour (8 pm on certain days) or 8000 yen prime hour (10 pm most days). I find about 8 pm-9 pm is ideal since more girls show up, 10 pm and later you might not be able to enter due to crowds. Use Manzoku to enter! Note that one American who can't speak Japanese got into Leicester and Hosekinobako just by showing his receipt from before. Or you can try showing your girl's card from Luxe. I don't know if this really works consistently but they just want to know the customer has money (won't run) and can follow rules (no first-timers) if they can't speak Japanese. I don't have a lot of experience with that route because I speak some Japanese and I cheat by going to Manzoku. I show that I obviously can speak conversational Japanese, so Manzoku will then introduce me to the shop on the phone saying "I have a Japanese speaking foreigner can he go in?" They never mention my race - my speaking ability and willingness to comply with common sense rules is all that matters.
[QUOTE=RickRock;2966772]IMO Kabukicho isn't all that great. But there are some places there where you can get good service:[/QUOTE]Yes I think if a guy is in Japan long-term, the end game is DH. But beginners or guys who are just in town a few days will want to check out Kabukicho for some unique samplings. I only go Kabukicho for oppai pubs (#1 spot for them), hostess clubs (not my thing but just for curiosity), and fetish clubs (see 3 kidnapped schoolgirls story). For just straight up sex you can use DH or if a first-timer, go KiraKira soapland and see if it's your thing. The reason I recommend Kira Kira is the average service is high. Then when you try DH you'll know right away if the girl is even trying and worth negotiating for FS. The current rate is 31000 for 70 minutes which is $204 USD. For the high service, it's good value.
If you are in Osaka, try out Tobita. Certain places we mention here have high success rates for foreigners, there is also the yoasobi portal for legit foreigner friendly shops. It is going to be hit and miss to wander the streets and find a place, since that will be a mix of legit shops and weak shops. There is a big gap between the best shops in Japan vs the weaker shops, and the best shops are often cheaper anyways.
[QUOTE=Kristopher19;2966953]Alright, After doing much research on this website and digging around on the linked websites I started my journey in Tokyo. This was my first time traveling to Japan with 0 Japanese skills, so Travel X and other posters suggestions really came through.[/QUOTE]Awesome intel, there is some trial and error if you are adventurous. I was the same way when I started. I will say if you are in Osaka, try Tobita. You will get FS and you get to pick the girls by looks. If there are some girls that take foreigners and others that don't, you'll know immediately because those that will take you will nod or beckon. If you see a girl you like, no harm in going straight for her. Because once you make a 2nd round through Tobita most girls will ignore you if they remember seeing you before, since they already made their "sales pitch". Fair enough, it is not a zoo. Tobita is a decent value.
As many have noticed, actual Japanese girls are superior to non-Japanese girls in Japan. Non-Japanese girls are often for tourist traps and bottom of the barrel places that touts lead you to. It is always better to research a place and go to a place several other guys have succeeded at. And while DH is another option, unfortunately it's going to depend on the girl and it seems like every Delivery Health shop has both good and bad girls. This is why I focus on shops that cater to Japanese customers since the girls on average are better. It's why I recommend Kira Kira which is 97% Japanese customers. Japanese customers have much higher standards, and Kira Kira has long been foreigner friendly. I avoid shops that are next to some busy road because those are just "tourist traps" for even Japanese. Kira Kira is in the middle of buildings, because regulars know to go straight there for some quick and cheap fun before lunch or dinner. Avoid rush hour.
[QUOTE=DogLife;2966994]Luxe made be horny and I wanted to further my luck in the evening for some more tease.
The show was not so bad and for 2200 yen, spending 20 minutes for an experience I would never repeat was OK.[/QUOTE]For those with extra time like DogLife, totally worth checking out the weird stuff like this. There used to be a strip club show similar to this but with really hot young girls, but it closed down after COVID:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2928099&viewfull=1#post2928099[/URL] New Hot Point
[I]I used to get blowjobs at New Hot Point from 8s to 10s for 4000 yen, or $26 USD. I couldn't believe it, so sometimes I did it over and over all morning and my stack of money didn't even shrink. The key being it was a strip club where the strippers happened to offer blowjobs and handjobs so they were all young and hot.[/I]
This goes to show while in Japan, people should check out what Japan is good at. Sushi instead of McDonalds.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7125418&viewfull=1#post7125418[/URL] Japan specialties, arbitrage
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Top Things That Japan Can Only Offer
I'm going to be in Tokyo for about a week and this trip is supposed to be my sexual Odyssey. I'm going to be arriving full of cum and I want to leave having shot out my entire lineage.
I'm looking for two types of experiences:
1) Good, cheap places to get HJ's and BJ's from relatively attractive young girls (I've heard most of the attractive ones work at FS joints and I'm not really into them) Any recs would be nice because I plan on going like 3 times a day.
2) Sexual experiences that are unique to Japan. To be more specific, I'm from the US. I don't really want to just find an escort or go to a Western style strip club. I'm trying to find experiences that I can only find in Japan.
For example, I read about Luxe and having 3 beautiful Japanese girls rub their tits on my face for that price is definitely something that is unique to Japan for me. Although, they don't let you nut so I'm also afraid that I'll have major blue balls after, but then I'd transition to #1 and find a BJ spot to drain me.
Thanks for all the info on the forum so far. Any info is much appreciated.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2966772]Not that I know of, but Google maps is excellent these days. What you can do is write down a list of the places you are interested in. Then just punch them into Google maps. They will all come up.
IMO Kabukicho isn't all that great. But there are some places there where you can get good service:
Tokyo Hentai Club.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/xprVDYX4qBwegzWe7[/URL]
Asian Feelings.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/gs2PXqNSc15pYZTL6[/URL]
Madonna.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/c59VGEgzHPaxgEiH6[/URL]
Lovely Hands
https://maps.app.goo.gl/pXWZCcytZ7DcpSuy7[/QUOTE]Thanks Rick! This is going to come in handy.
I am also realizing Kabukicho is mainly a tourist trap, but this will be a ready reckoner for the days I am feeling not traveling out of Shinjuku.
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[QUOTE=DogLife;2967110]Thanks Rick! This is going to come in handy.
I am also realizing Kabukicho is mainly a tourist trap, but this will be a ready reckoner for the days I am feeling not traveling out of Shinjuku.[/QUOTE]I personally prefer using out-call services in most cases. Highly reviewed out-call options in the area are:
Tokyo Style [URL]https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/[/URL].
Tokyo Amateur Escort [URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/[/URL].
Tokyo Hentai Club [URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/[/URL].
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I recently two excellent rendezvous with Sakura from Tokyo Style. The first was a short massage appointment. I was so impressed I immediately booked a longer "deluxe course" two days later.
As you can see, Sakura looks like a model:
[URL]https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/profile.php?cid=Sakura[/URL]
The pictures here are accurate. She blocks her face using her hand, but it's not edited. Or at least not that I can tell. That is how she really looks.
Sakura is beautiful, charming, classy and a fine English speaker! She put me at ease and impressed me at the same time. It was easy to get on with her since she's spent a lot of time in the West. Plus, she's just a really fun girl.
Her looks are top of the charts for me. She's what I would call a stunner.
Tall, well built, beautiful natural breasts, a natural bubble butt, smooth skin, silky hair.
She worked as a beautician and climbs mountains for a hobby. So you get a tight sexy body with a girl who takes care of her looks.
As far as the massage it was great. Well skilled hot oil massage with a lot of flirting. She looks great in a thong! The hand job to finish was very skilled, but it left me wanting for more.
On the later deluxe session she got totally naked. We had a very erotic bath together in the tiny love hotel tub. Then she stroked me loving for about an hour before sliding her oil covered nipples all over my legs and ass. Finally she sucked the cum out of me with an incredible two-handed technique.
Thinking about it now gets me turned on again. She's definitely an unsung star in Tokyo!
First 1 hour massage was 27000 Yen.
Second go was a 90 minute deluxe for 40000 Yen.
To repeat I would deluxe again. I loved sucking on her tits and her BJ is one of the best I've had.
Treat her right boys.
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[QUOTE=Yehdawg;2967050]1) Good, cheap places to get HJ's and BJ's from relatively attractive young girls (I've heard most of the attractive ones work at FS joints and I'm not really into them) Any recs would be nice because I plan on going like 3 times a day.[/QUOTE]I'd sure like to know too! I'm sorry to say I doubt it exists, I've waited years but no solid intel. The best I ever got was New Hot Point, a strip club that also offered BJ and HJ. Super cheap with hot girls. But it closed around Covid, this is a summary of NHP:
[URL]https://tokyonightstyle.com/blog/media/new-hot-point-review/[/URL] NHP review
[URL]https://rockitreports.com/review-new-hot-point-tokyo-japan/[/URL] NHP review
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2928099&viewfull=1#post2928099[/URL] The problem with bjs and hjs in Japan
Please stop reading here if you don't want to hear stories about things that no longer exist in Japan. NHP was a total unicorn, pics of girls as examples. Every single one of them sucked my dick for 4000 yen ($26). On repeat visits, some of them I got a quick HJ from 2000 yen ($13) though I usually upgraded to 3000 yen to play with their tits during hj. One girl Haruka I got her schedule card and would plan my sightseeing around her schedule (pink circle = morning, green = evening). They were nice girls and fun to chat with when my dick wasn't in their mouth. All young and beautiful - but this is NOT normal! A club like NHP can't survive today, Japan's bubble economy is over. Notice comments from the 2nd link that "Jan Jan is cheaper". Most guys would literally rather have a mid-30's housewife give them a BJ or HJ for less money, than get them from strippers. Blows my mind but that's the reality, bjs and hjs are considered cheap and dirty, most guys do NOT care about looks and just want it cheap as possible. NHP was considered "too expensive" for locals LOL.
Hjs and Bjs are 100% legal in Japan, and it is dirt cheap but you expect a 30's plain woman on average. A "HJ BJ only" shop is either weak girls or expensive for good girls (Lovely Hands is an example of an expensive one). I've asked for years but only got a lead on a shop in Kansai. I think it's because Tokyo rent is so high. I bet it still exists in Osaka but rarely go that far. Truth be told, hot and young girls gravitate to girls bars, oppai pubs, and delivery health these days. I think the rise of girls bars and DH the last 15 years has killed off any chance of another NHP.
[QUOTE=Yehdawg;2967050]
2) Sexual experiences that are unique to Japan. To be more specific, I'm from the US. I don't really want to just find an escort or go to a Western style strip club. I'm trying to find experiences that I can only find in Japan.
For example, I read about Luxe and having 3 beautiful Japanese girls rub their tits on my face for that price is definitely something that is unique to Japan for me. Although, they don't let you nut so I'm also afraid that I'll have major blue balls after, but then I'd transition to #1 and find a BJ spot to drain me.[/QUOTE]This link lists the shop types in Japan. Other than oppai pubs I'd consider soapland or fetish. For veterans who want more, see Rick's post on DH.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666#post2946666[/URL] Types of shops in Japan
Japanese girls tend to be cute, shy, demure. I've had a few rub their tits in my face but that's the exception, at an oppai pub you take the lead. Like I'll ask if a girl can hop on and she says sure and hops on. They are not aggressive, few jgirls are and most Japanese guys find aggressive a huge turn off. If I ask a girl to kiss, some give LFK while others give DFK. Every girl is different. Many guys talk about getting blue balls, I guess that's normal but a few guys like me don't. Some guys will go an oppai pub and then release elsewhere. But I'm weird, I prefer to go soapland in the morning like Kira Kira and bang it out with a girl who worships me. Then grab lunch. Then sightsee, the pressure is off because I got my sex already. Then right after dinner about 8 pm make out with girls at an oppai pub. It doesn't bother me, I like flirting with girls that obey my requests. But I get that other guys have their way and need the release to be at the end. Just make sure you plan ahead and research a legit place. Some shops are much more reliable than others.
Even though DH is ideal for pros, I get that newcomers and tourists might not be used to setting up an appointment. If you really want to wander around soaplands, Yoshiwara has a lot and I've heard some success there. You can just window shop without going if you're just curious, there are a lot of shops. It's not my thing just want to point out the option.
[QUOTE=Rick Rock;2967191]I recently two excellent rendezvous with Sakura from Tokyo Style. The first was a short massage appointment. I was so impressed I immediately booked a longer "deluxe course" two days later.
As you can see, Sakura looks like a model:
[URL]https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/profile.php?cid=Sakura[/URL]
To repeat I would deluxe again. I loved sucking on her tits and her BJ is one of the best I've had.
Treat her right boys.[/QUOTE]
For those visiting Japan, some shops are opening their doors to us foreigners. Treat the women right so more doors open. I've seen plenty of women and it is important to treat them respectfully, start things slow and make them feel safe and comfortable. I believe you will have a better time this way too.
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Some guys will go an oppai pub and then release elsewhere. But I'm weird, I prefer to go soapland in the morning like Kira Kira and bang it out with a girl who worships me. Then grab lunch. Then sightsee, the pressure is off because I got my sex already. Then right after dinner about 8 pm make out with girls at an oppai pub.
[/QUOTE]If you think yourself to be weird, count me in too.
This has been my standard operating procedure in most of the places, not only here. I visited KiraKira the next day as per your and others advice and had a good time. (FR coming soon).
In Tijuana, I go to HK and give the dancers $1 and let them grind on me for a minute and my hand wanders everywhere. After a few rounds when I get in th mood, go pick up a girl from the alley, and have a great session.
More pay doesn't necessarily guarantee a better service. In the contrary, these establishment girls are there to squeeze out as much as possible from you and gets transactional.
Call me cheap, but I like to stretch the dollar here.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2967191]I recently two excellent rendezvous with Sakura from Tokyo Style. The first was a short massage appointment. I was so impressed I immediately booked a longer "deluxe course" two days later.
As you can see, Sakura looks like a model:
[URL]https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/profile.php?cid=Sakura[/URL]
The pictures here are accurate. She blocks her face using her hand, but it's not edited. Or at least not that I can tell. That is how she really looks.s.[/QUOTE]$40,000 why for a covered BJ. Pass.
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[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2965986]So over US $1,000? That is getting expensive.[/QUOTE]Almost 100% sure that he added an extra digit to most of his numbers there.
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First trip to Tokyo
Read a few pages and I think I will be using one of the agencies like Taitanic or Tokyo Amateur for outcalls.
Do have a few questions. Do girls bring their own protection to sessions? I know vaginal sex isn't allowed but lets say you want to partake in AF or you just have a preference for covered service.
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Vaginal sex?
I'm confused about how sex in Japan works. All the escort websites I came across and saw put "Intercrural sex" on the page and it means no vaginal sex?
It's so different from the west where by default an escort does vaginal for sure.
How / where can I find actual sex in Tokyo? I don't speak Japanese and will only be transiting through, landing around 7 am Narita leaving 5 pm, which means I need to head back to airport around 1 or 2 pm. Any pointer is greatly appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Apollo946;2967959]I'm confused about how sex in Japan works. All the escort websites I came across and saw put "Intercrural sex" on the page and it means no vaginal sex?
It's so different from the west where by default an escort does vaginal for sure.
How / where can I find actual sex in Tokyo? I don't speak Japanese and will only be transiting through, landing around 7 am Narita leaving 5 pm, which means I need to head back to airport around 1 or 2 pm. Any pointer is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Man, if you did even 5 minutes of searching here or on Google I think you'd find the answer to your question pretty easily.
It's illegal for girls to sell vaginal sex in Japan. Everything else is okay: HJ, BJ, anal (AF), intercrural sex (sumata). Just no vaginal sex.
The ONLY exception is at the soaplands. Why? Well at a soapland you are paying a girl to wash you. Anything else she does is just out of the goodness of her heart. In reality you get vaginal sex at every soapland in Japan. The problem there is that most soaplands (and most places in general) don't let foreigners in the door.
A few soaplands are reliable in that they are foreigner OK:
Casanova [URL]https://casanova-soapland.com[/URL].
GFE [URL]https://gfe-japan.net/faq[/URL].
Bunny Girls [URL]https://soapguide.net/ikebukuro-bunny-girl/[/URL].
Ikebukuro Gold [URL]https://soapguide.net/gold/[/URL].
There are more, but you sometimes need Japanese to get in. Or they might turn you away if you're the wrong nationality or something.
So if you want guaranteed vaginal sex you have to go to them.
Now if you get an escort from an agency, deli helu, fashion health, or whatever you MIGHT get vaginal sex. By law they can't offer it, so you will NEVER see that option written down anywhere. You aren't even allowed to ask for it. In reality some girls at certain places are known to offer it in private, usually by asking if you want to pay for a full option, secret option, or something like that.
They ARE allowed to do AF "anal fuck. " In reality when you pay for AF you often get vaginal sex once in the room. The girl just looks at your dick and says "too big for oshiri" or just sticks it in her pussy without saying anything.
If you read through the forum you will see guys got FS through some places like this. I most recently got it at Tokyo Amateur Escort. She asked and I took her up on it.
Though again, this is hit-or-miss. It's not guaranteed at all. More likely you get HJ, BJ and sumata (which BTW feels a lot like BBFS when done right).
To repeat: soaplands are the only guaranteed legal place to get vaginal sex in Japan. Period.
Like any country there are also illegal brothels and escorts. Some do vaginal sex, some don't. It's all illegal and quality is usually low. YMMV.
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[QUOTE=GuyPerson;2967913]Read a few pages and I think I will be using one of the agencies like Taitanic or Tokyo Amateur for outcalls.
Do have a few questions. Do girls bring their own protection to sessions? I know vaginal sex isn't allowed but lets say you want to partake in AF or you just have a preference for covered service.[/QUOTE]Depends on the girl. The older ones at some of the well known places do. I would bring my own anyway though. Get one that actually fits on your dick! I've had way too many that didn't, and I am not especially hung.
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[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2967632]$40,000 why for a covered BJ. Pass.[/QUOTE]40,000 dollars would indeed be a lot for a covered BJ.
What I paid was 260 dollars for 90 minutes of massage, bathing, mutual touching, and two orgasms, and company from a model quality beauty who is half my age.
You're free to get a BJ from an ugly old hausfrau at Jan Jan $26 if that better fits your budget and interests.
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Tokyo trip
Had a dream I visited a few places in Tokyo.
Spent some time at Asian Feeling with Honey. Gave me a shower and massage. Topless touching was an extra 5,000 yen during the HJ. Gave a little massage and shower again. 11,000 yen for the house plus the additional extra (every place pretends like its a secret that they offer extras).
Visited Tokyo Hentai Club which felt like I was going to pick up a rental car. They have a little stall where you browse the computer for who is working that night. I picked JAV Milu. You sit on a sofa and wait 15 min for them to come by and then they walk you to a nearby love hotel awkwardly chatting along the way. She spoke a little english but had a cute face and a nice pair bolted on her. Gave me a shower, LFK, nipple licked and slow played a BBBJ and 69 until I asked for extras. Again she said its a secret but we got to cowgirl, miss, and doggy before CIM. Gave me another shower. Fun time with her was 67,000 yen.
Stopped by Strawberry Jam which is a small operation and quite cramped room. Mako didn't have room in the shower so I had to do it myself. She was slim and on the flat side but had a cute face she hid with her hair, didn't speak any English. BBBJ, 69 with FIV. 14,000 yen for a good time.
Visited Kira Kira in Yokohama, very easy to get to from the train station and depending on where you stay takes the same amount of time as going from one end of Tokyo to another. They have a little waiting room where I was presented with cards of three options, I picked Yuno (in retrospect its probably a good thing that the mouths are blurred bc her teeth weren't so great). Gave me a shower on the stool and took me to the tub where nothing was really happening so I started getting playful and handsy. Went to the bed, BBBJ, 69 with FIV, riding, mish, and doggy before finishing. Strangest part was as I was leaving all the employees had lined the entrance to thank me for coming (and cumming haha). 31,000 yen for 70 min.
Went to lovely hand (their stall is down the hall from Tokyo Hentai Club in the same building) and picked Natsu. One of their assistants walked me down the street to the love hotel where she showed up. Short, small tits, cute face. Took a shower then got a nude BBBJ. 15,000 for 20 min.
Wanted to visit Barubola but when I walked in they told me it was a 70 minute wait. They also said I couldn't make a reservation for the next day so I left and went back to Asian Feeling. Picked Rena who was a lot prettier than Honey. Same routine except when she got topless she laid herself down next to me so its easier to touch her. 17,000 yen (extra 1 k to pick masseuse).
Overall a gnarly experience but if you're traveling purely for fun a South American brothel or European FKK is the way to go- you walk in and get to sample the lineups, pay one time for exactly who you want and what you want to do with them, and don't have to move to some other love hotel a few blocks down.
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There is another
[QUOTE=RickRock;2968174]
It's illegal for girls to sell vaginal sex in Japan. Everything else is okay: HJ, BJ, anal (AF), intercrural sex (sumata). Just no vaginal sex.
The ONLY exception is at the soaplands. Why? Well at a soapland you are paying a girl to wash you. Anything else she does is just out of the goodness of her heart. In reality you get vaginal sex at every soapland in Japan. The problem there is that most soaplands (and most places in general) don't let foreigners in the door.
To repeat: soaplands are the only guaranteed legal place to get vaginal sex in Japan. Period.[/QUOTE]There is another exception besides soaplands: the restaurant associations (aka shinchis) in Osaka, such as Tobita, Matsushima, etc.
It's a similar kind of ridiculous loophole: you're not paying for sex, you're paying for an expensive tiny meal but there is a high probability (100%) that your sexy waitress will fall in love with you and want to immediately consummate your mutual desire.
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[QUOTE=Apollo946;2967959]How / where can I find actual sex in Tokyo? I don't speak Japanese and will only be transiting through, landing around 7 am Narita leaving 5 pm, which means I need to head back to airport around 1 or 2 pm. Any pointer is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]As discussed in the other replies, the simplest way to get actual sex, especially for a first time visitor, is to go to a soapland. If you scroll through these pages, you'll see several foreigner-friendly soaplands mentioned. Kira Kira in Yokohama and GFE Soapland in Kawasaki are two, for example, that are totally geared to foreigners. There are also many in the Yoshiwara soapland district in Tokyo proper.
The logistics of getting to these places after passing though immigration at Narita and then getting back again might be daunting, but it's possible. If you will take the initiative to scroll back a dozen or so pages, you will see that someone asked a similar question about having fun during a layover from Narita; there were a few responses. I suggested that it might be logistically simpler to go to a soapland in Chiba City, which is closer to Narita than Tokyo, Kawasaki, and Yokohama. There are a bunch of links for you to find if you scroll back to that conversation.
Kira Kira in Kawasaki opens at 6:00 am, as does Marina Blue Chiba. Probably others do too. If you're efficient with your time, you should be able to have a soapland experience at the destination of your choice and maybe grab a nice meal before heading back to Narita. Good luck, and if you actually do this, please report back here with as much detail as you can.
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[QUOTE=Runon99;2968360]There is another exception besides soaplands: the restaurant associations (aka shinchis) in Osaka, such as Tobita, Matsushima, etc.
It's a similar kind of ridiculous loophole: you're not paying for sex, you're paying for an expensive tiny meal but there is a high probability (100%) that your sexy waitress will fall in love with you and want to immediately consummate your mutual desire.[/QUOTE]Please stop reading if you don't want an explanation of Japanese law, I'm sure most people find it boring but a few people are genuinely curious. So, the Japanese law on prostitution (1956) is very lenient by Western standards. 7 parts:
1) First, only dick in pussy counts as prostitution. HJ, BJ, sumatra, anal for money are all fair game and they can advertise it. This is why no legit DH shop will advertise FS ever, they'll be shut down fast. It's also why some girls "offer anal" but you end up missing the hole because they'd rather have sex when the time comes. No one would know!
2) At soapland you should 100% get FS without paying any tip, of course if the girl sees you're a noob she could just run 70 minutes of nuru and say "time's up". But you can just ask her for sex and you'll get it. At soapland you pay for "time" and the male staff downstairs "don't know" what you guys do so don't even ask them.
3) It's actually legal to pay for sex from a person you already know, hence why at Tobita she serves you a snack to get "introduced" and likewise you can ask the soapland to girl to bang and she 100% will. It is ONLY illegal for a girl to offer sex to "just anyone" like a streetwalker. This is why at DH or soapland if you like a girl she'll give you her LINE to meet her a 2nd time without a middle man, and that's 100% legal. Just don't announce it for privacy reasons.
4) There is no punishment for Johns in Japan. Excepting if she's a minor. No soapland or DH is going to send you a minor because they don't want to get fucked, so cool. Win win.
5) Even though there is no punishment for Johns, there is punishment for a streetwalker or place advertising FS. So don't confuse the two, this is why no shop will advertise FS. Because that breaks the law of offering it to "just anyone". It is totally legal to offer sex for money to someone "you know", or to pay for a girl's time and she decides "on her own" to bang you. The exact wording of the law is offering sex to "unspecified persons" (I. E. Unacquainted people aka "just anyone"
6) Most important, Japan has no basis for probable cause, a police cannot investigate based on suspicion they must have a warrant first or personally witness it (aka witness a crime in progress). Therefore once the door is closed between you and the girl, no one will ever interfere. Same as how a strip club VIP works. The male staff don't know, and they don't want to know! Wink.
7) This law is barely enforced. Police will clamp down on streetwalkers since it's publicly embarrassing. And they have gone after FS shops that advertised too clearly, as well as a soapland operating without a license. The licensing angle is why DHs have exploded in popularity, most cities no longer issue new licenses. This is why soapland are clustered in very specific spots.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_prostitution_in_modern_Japan[/URL]
Tobita is cheap for a quick bang. When I hear people getting GPS prices at DH in Osaka, those girls can only do that because they assume you don't know about Tobita or are in love with them. You can normally get FS for 10 k or 20 k if the girl offers it, but every girl is different.
I'll post a few ads I got from a fetish shop featured in my "3 kidnapped schoolgirls"* story. Besides "kidnap" scenario they also have "3 girls suck you off preview", a totally different scenario depicted in cartoons. These are public advertisements plastered on the walls, 100% legal to advertise and perform. Note not one instance of FS is depicted. Even Manzoku had this all over their walls. Police patrols would walk by them like nothing, since after all they are legal.
* All schoolgirls 20 years of age and older no actual schoolgirl was harmed by Traveler X.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963832&viewfull=1#post2963832[/URL] I was stuck with 3 kidnapped schoolgirls.
See cartoon 1. The guy orders the "3 girls suck me off and I pick 1 to play with" course. It's real. When ordering the course, the staff says "Kashikomarimashita" which is equivalent to "wakarimasu" with the connotation of "I understand and am prepared to give you what you've asked". "Kochira" means this way. This way to your 4P. Next, you see A Ko sucking him off. The 3rd girl C-Ko is trying to outdo both girls before and make you pick her. He exclaims "I'm coming", so I bet this is the girl he picks.
Nope, he picks B-Ko after all. He tells the staff by intercom phone, nostrils flared. "B-Ko chan o onegaishimasu" loosely translates to "I'm need to get up in B-Ko's business asap". Next she is on her knees and washing your cock in her hand saying "Thanks for picking me". Don't know why, C-Ko was clearly deepthroating him earlier.
Japanese take cleanliness seriously and after showering she can suck, you can eat, she will ride you sumatra. If she does more than that for a tip, who knows! It is an illegal thing no advertisement will ever show, no matter how common or expected it is in a fully private situation that no one else could witness. Just like the VIP of a strip club.
Last panel shows that no matter how wild and naughty you were with her for the hour, she will always hug you lovingly and say thank your or please come again. It goes without saying that you cannot get this service in the USA. As illustrated, it is 100% legal in Japan so they can openly advertise it all. It is as legal as getting a cup of coffee in Japan, everyone just needs to be 18.
Notice not one of these cartoons depicts fs of dick inside pussy!
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Can I get recommendations for BJ shops?
Hi Traveler X and other experienced.
Can I get a few recommendations for BJ shops? I prefer high end BJ shops with nice looking girls. Thanks for your advice!
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[QUOTE=Gordon987;2969027]Hi Traveler X and other experienced.
Can I get a few recommendations for BJ shops? I prefer high end BJ shops with nice looking girls. Thanks for your advice![/QUOTE]
By high end I assume you mean an emphasis on the girls? You may be best off with Delivery Health, which technically is focused on BJ anyways. You have the widest choice in girls. I'll list Gingira below, they have some excellent girls. They will go to your hotel or to a love hotel of your choice. Not every regular hotel allows guest visitors, so what you do is call Gingira and tell them you want a girl at X time and location, ideally with the love hotel you intend to use. Then when you get to the love hotel and check in, you call them again and let them know your room number. This also let's them call you back at your room to confirm, for the girls' safety. So if you book a 70 minute course, you want the love hotel at least 90 minutes if not 120 minutes, it's quite cheap (ex. some are 4000 yen or $26). You can get full sex with most DH girls by offering a tip, it's between you and the girl. I would offer 10k, some will take 20k. Occasionally there are GPS girls (Golden Pussy Syndrome) who will ask a lot more for whatever reason, I wouldn't but it's your decision.
Rick Rock has reviewed many DH shops. It is a tricky thing, but I hope to help reduce the GPS pricing that happens sometimes with first-timers where the girl sees you're a tourist and asks a higher tip than normal. I always say the tip I want to give first, no matter who brought up the subject. And I make it not a big deal, like I'm not even sure I want sex but I'm hard now anyways so "this is her chance" to make extra money but I don't need it. Most girls will take it on the spot, but no guarantee. Be the first to say a number. 10K is a $64 tip, even 20K is acceptable to most people.
[B]Kira Kira Delivery Health[/B]
[URL]https://gingira.jp/gal.html[/URL] Gingira girls, look for O next to International Customer
[URL]https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html[/URL] Gingira System
[URL]https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1304/gingira/[/URL] Gingira English ad plus girls' media
[URL]https://camikaze.cc/escort/foreigner-friendly-escorts/[/URL] Example of how to DH
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2956442#post2956442[/URL] Ichika Nagano did DH
More Links
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963634#post2963634[/URL] More photos of gingira girls
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2962479#post2962479[/URL] Gingira and Tora no Ana
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2959631#post2959631[/URL] Rick Rock visits Taitanic Yokohama
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2953656#post2953656[/URL] Rick Rock tries Casanova in Yoshiwara
On a girl's profile, you can see International Customer as a field, you want to see an O next to it. Triangle means maybe. Next, you can see her schedule. Or it's easier if you look at the whole shop schedule and pick that way. Gingira is photo accurate in my experience, it's why I mention it here. Girls do up their hair and make up for photos so it's them but they won't look exactly the same. But the girls I know were close enough to say it's accurate. Pictured are Sana, Seika, Kaname, and Ere. All foreigner okay.
[B]Kira Kira Soapland[/B]
If you are truly first time and just want to see what soapland is like, Kira Kira in Yokohama has good service. From Shibuya it's easy access by train. You are expecting a decent looking girl, but not a stunner. At soap they will worship and obey you.
[URL]https://kirakira.eroticguide.tokyo/[/URL] Kira Kira website English
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963631&viewfull=1#post2963631[/URL] Kira Kira Yokohama first experience
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963459&viewfull=1#post2963459[/URL] [B]Kira Kira mega guide[/B] (Yokohama)
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/FPZJmDsaAjvraKE6A[/URL] Google Maps link to Kira Kira
I also include 5 ad photos for Kira Kira. They tend to use realistic ad photos, but keep in mind they take the photo from a good angle and hide the face, and she has full make up and hair. But it has always been the actual girl. Every girl I've seen at Kira Kira has been "just above average" in looks. For example Mona was cute face but a little chubby, small tits, but beautiful pussy. The best part of Kira Kira though is every single girl has worshipped me like god. That's why customers go for, whereas with Delivery Health guys are picking girls "for looks first" and the service second. KK is a reasonable price, no hidden feels you pay 31k for 70 minutes (about $199), every staff bows and thanks you on your way out KK does it right. I got exactly 70 minutes checking my watch, anything I wanted. I got nuru, bath together, a blowjob during nuru, a blowjob during bath (JAV style with me on her lap), then a blowjob and sex, then chat (Animal Crossing, Dr. Stone anime, Disneyland), then another blowjob and sex. I don't normally do this much, but Mona was pretty enthusiastic so I did. Another girl I'd probably do less if we don't vibe, but it's your time you decide.
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[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2965986]So over US $1,000? That is getting expensive.[/QUOTE]
I know this is a late reply but he was adding an extra 0 to different shops both Luxe and Soap. He paid $200 for DH not $2000 for example. $100 for Oppai pub including extension. I often confuse Japanese currency even after 20 years because in Japanese they count by 'Man' or 10,000 while we are used to thousands like 1,000. People add or subtract a zero all the time due to this convention. Same thing with oku, which is 100 million. When the conversion rate is close to 100 yen per dollar, "ichi oku en" ends up being 1 million dollars. A typical "lot of money" number thrown around in dramas.
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2967632]$40,000 why for a covered BJ. Pass.[/QUOTE]
Same thing. 40,000 is 40k yen or about $260. Japan is quite cheap by US and European standards. Just to give people a ballpark idea, I'll list what people pay for some things in Japan.
[B]Ballpark costs in Japan[/B]
1) 70 minutes of soapland at Kira Kira = 31k for 70 minutes (about $199). This is not just sex, but nuru, bjs, bath, fs, bj, fs. My max was 4 blowjobs and 2 sex in 70 mins, it's usually just 2 bjs and 1 fs. Good value.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2965513#post2965513[/URL] Kira Kira links
2) 40 minutes of an oppai pub in Kabukicho, for 6000 to 8000 yen (depending on hours). So $38 to $51, up to you to buy drinks for ladies the basic drink isn't much. Remember, the price rises 50%-100% to extend, but worth doing if you find your ideal girl. Oppai pubs are pretty cheap in my opinion, I can hop 2-3 clubs a night, several nights, and barely spend anything. 3 clubs works out to about $135, so even if I buy every girl a drink that's $270 total to play with 9 young girls for 2 hours straight. US strip clubs cost way to get way less on average, even for just 1 girl.
3) 40 minute train ride from Shibya to Yokohama direct is 220 yen ($1.41). In Japan, use trains when possible. From the airport, use a "limousine bus" which is a luxury bus to get to major stations and certain hotels. Taxis for medium distances you can't walk or cover by train easily.
4) 1 order of Ichiran ramen is 980 yen ($6.26) which is way better than any $20 ramen you could get in the USA. Of course Ichiran ramen has branches in Hong Kong, Taipei, Taichung, and Brooklyn, New York. I believe it costs $22 in NYC just to give you an idea. Japan is obviously really good and cheap for Japanese food.
5) A typical budget hotel room in Japan hovers around 10K ($64). It is way better value than a typical US hotel, excepting the most expensive hot spots.
6) For sightseeing, you might expect 500-1000 for temple admission, or 500-2500 for a typical restaurant for a solid meal. I typically pay under 500 yen for a simple but delicious breakfast. Pronto will give you fantastic coffee as part of a set. 500 is $3.20.
Other people quoted:
A) 90 minutes deluxe massage with "professional" handjob 27K for 60 mins ($173). He actually repeated paying 40K for 90 mins, so I take his word it's special.
B) 4000 yen for blowjob by middle-aged plain woman at Jan Jan (about $26)
C) 2200 yen for a 20 minute peepshow (about $14). "not so bad", would not repeat but worth seeing for laughs and curiosity if you have time to kill.
D) 45,000 (45K) yen as "tip" to get sex from a GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome) delivery health girl. That's $288, more than doubling the cost of DH. Do not pay this, it's tourist prices. Vast majority of DH girls take 10K or 20K ($64 or $128).
[QUOTE=Yehdawg;2967050]I'm going to be in Tokyo for about a week and this trip is supposed to be my sexual Odyssey. I'm going to be arriving full of cum and I want to leave having shot out my entire lineage.[/QUOTE]
If you are wiling to share your experience good or bad it will help others. No pressure, up to you. Hope you had a good time.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2965391&viewfull=1#post2965391[/URL] PSA encouraging people to share intel
[QUOTE=Kristopher19;2966953]A few days later I decided to head into Kabukicho and spend some time at Luxe. I'd agree with Traveler X. Try this spot once, and then move on to actually fucking women. It was a cool experience, and I got quite drunk from all the free beer and this hot chick that made out with me.[/QUOTE]
Even the biggest DH fans will sometimes mention they went to an oppai pub long ago and it was fun "the first time". Most guys seem to focus on fs but this is an option. A minority of guys like me are all-in on oppai pubs and just go fs just occasionally.
[URL]https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/[/URL] Luxe website
[URL]https://www.cabaseku.jp/kanto/kabukichou/shop/1537/[/URL] Leicester, if you know some Japanese
[URL]https://www.hosekibako-shinjuku.com/[/URL] Hosekinobako, if you know some Japanese
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964542&viewfull=1#post2964542[/URL] Oppai pub guide
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2959611&viewfull=1#post2959611[/URL] Oppai pub guide with links to 7 posts
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2966010&viewfull=1#post2966010[/URL] Oppai pub veteran tips
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964457&viewfull=1#post2964457[/URL] Be part of the 1%
Link to most of my Japan/Tokyo guides:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4403-Japan-guides-focusing-on-Oppai-Pubs-Soapland-Delivery-Health&p=2966012&viewfull=1#post2966012[/URL] Traveler X guides
This is a PSA reminder: [B]Do NOT talk or engage with any nigerian touts in Kabukicho[/B], just walk past them and you are perfectly safe. This is the only rule! Roppongi has Nigerian staff for clubs, they're generally fine. This is just about the many black guys standing around Kabukicho trying to take you to their scam bar.
If you need an alibi, these are just ideas to get you started.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964777&viewfull=1#post2964777[/URL] Sakuragicho station
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Shinjuku Tiktok
Your posts are some of the most helpful on the forum, Traveler x and much appreciated.
I have RTFF and you probably covered this before but I cannot find: my Tiktok shows Lots of really attractive girls street walkers girls hanging around for custom, lines of them. Is this a real thing? I like the idea of an amateur (like these seem). Is there anything we need to be wary of with them?
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2969659]I know this is a late reply but he was adding an extra 0 to different shops both Luxe and Soap. He paid $200 for DH not $2000 for example. $100 for Oppai pub including extension. I often confuse Japanese currency even after 20 years because in Japanese they count by 'Man' or 10,000 while we are used to thousands like 1,000. People add or subtract a zero all the time due to this convention. Same thing with oku, which is 100 million. When the conversion rate is close to 100 yen per dollar, "ichi oku en" ends up being 1 million dollars. A typical "lot of money" number thrown around in dramas.
Same thing. 40,000 is 40k yen or about $260. Japan is quite cheap by US and European standards. Just to give people a ballpark idea, I'll list what people pay for some things in Japan.
[B]Ballpark costs in Japan[/B]
1) 70 minutes of soapland at Kira Kira = 31k for 70 minutes (about $199). This is not just sex, but nuru, bjs, bath, fs, bj, fs. My max was 4 blowjobs and 2 sex in 70 mins, it's usually just 2 bjs and 1 fs. Good value.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2965513#post2965513[/URL] Kira Kira links.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=HotDog666;2969671]Your posts are some of the most helpful on the forum, Traveler x and much appreciated.
I have RTFF and you probably covered this before but I cannot find: my Tiktok shows Lots of really attractive girls street walkers girls hanging around for custom, lines of them. Is this a real thing? I like the idea of an amateur (like these seem). Is there anything we need to be wary of with them?[/QUOTE]It's a waste of time getting news from Tiktok or similar formats. My 12 year old nephew makes them and lies. He's never been to Japan and just repeats what he read online plus a lot of his own mistakes.
See this Youtube short, it says "Homeless teenagers in Japan" but then shows you ladies holding up signs for a girl's bar. It's a low effort video full of random clips, a majority unrelated. It fools a lot of people, someone showed me this exact Youtube clip thinking they were prostitutes.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ON4xnYUVfGo[/URL] YT shorts
2 screencaps attached. Anyone can read her sign in Japanese. It is for a bar and you get to drink with her and chat with her. I mean look at the other sign it literally says "Bar" in English for us gaijin. Now you know not to get your information from Youtube shorts. Because my nephew is lying to you. People who make these videos can't read Japanese, they can't even read English.
98% of girls standing around waiting for customers are not prostitutes. Girls bars are the most common, followed by maid cafes. It's not the norm for hostesses or oppai pub girls to do it for privacy and safety. If they hold a sign, that's the promo rate. Girls bars are super casual and "just chat", they are wholesome fun for guys who just want a cute girl to talk to no touching. It was fun my first time 20 years ago. I think I'd do it again if I walked past a girl I liked and vibed well with. I've mentioned before at the smaller girls bar the girls are the bartenders and there aren't even male staff to help them. Like a 1-4 girl operation with just a bar to serve 2-12 customers only. Cheaper than an oppai pub as long as you just drink beer or whatever is on special. Even women can go, but of course it is usually a lonely guy or two maybe on a business trip.
I'm just talking Japanese girls of course. If you see a Chinese girl call out "massagu" then while she is also not a prostitute, maybe 25% of them will also offer you a handjob. 100% legal btw, just most of them won't do it. The girl can still give you a massage and find her friend who is willing to do it. Likewise a thai girl may be a prostitute, there is scant intel so just going by my own two eyes I saw them hanging around love hotels. I'm just not interested in them but others may be. It is of course better to go to Thailand for Thai girls but I understand many guys are in Japan anyways and want some adventure so I mention it. Lastly if you see a newhalf I would imagine the person is a streetwalker. If you don't know what newhalf is, don't look it up and stay innocent. Have a nice day.
Attached 2 photos from the YT short example. Next are 2 photos of girl's bar girls. Three girls are standing outdoors with signs hanging around their necks like they are for sale. If I had to choose 2 girls, I'd choose the one on the right twice. Another shows a bar where all the bartenders have their faces covered, but that is just a teaser for marketing. If you show up and meet them, you can get a polaroid with them. So actual customers can take pictures with them no problem, most guys ask at the very end before leaving.
The good thing about girl's bars is when it is early hours (6 pm-9 pm) the night is just getting started and things are slow, so lots of girls are outside depending on the day. If you meet a girl you like, you pick her to go to her bar. It's a way to make sure you like and get along with the girl you start with. In Osaka I did this 20 years ago, and the girl chatted with me 30 minutes and I would get a 2nd random girl for the next 30, but I liked her so paid to keep her. It was something like 2000 yen to enter, 800 yen to keep and extend her. 2800 yen is $18 for an hour "date" with a girl. This was 20 years ago in Osaka, so it's going to be more today and especially if it's a downtown area in Shinjuku. But in other cities it's still cheap. I think if language isn't an issue you can try it once for fun. You don't need a lot of Japanese, but some. I really liked the girl I met, I would have paid way more for the experience since I still remember her 20 years later. Can't be said of a lot of girls, just the special 5% to 10%.
Next is a photo of a bunch of muscular women for a bar staffed by super muscular women. It's basically a themed girl's bar. You can think of a girl's bar as a "maid cafe at a bar". There are literally girl's bars staffed by maids, but no one calls it a maid cafe anymore since the focus is on alcohol rather than food. Obviously a lot of overlap though. So in a way, if a Hooter's in the US doesn't serve alcohol, by Japanese standards it would be "a US-themed maid cafe". The lines are always blurred in Japan once fetish and themes are involved.
Next is a photo of a nice soapland room. This is proper soapland, a place that doesn't have nuru and a room for it is just "imitation soapland". One reason I recommend Kira Kira is it's focused on service first. The girl is decent, the room is decent but small. You get good value for "above average". The Kira Kira room is maybe 2/3 the size of the example posted, but also budget priced. Last photo is a full shower room with chair in Los Angeles for nuru, set up by kgirl Lucky. I'm sure it's fun, but it's not half what soapland can offer. Certainly we are going "for the girl" but this is what I mean by Thailand and the US having imitations of Japan, but you go to Japan for the full experience.
I prefer to stick with shops mainly staffed by Japanese girls, targeting Japanese locals. This rules out the tourist traps. Not sure about shops that are "foreigners only", there is success but also some hit and miss and GPS pricing "for tourists". And the quality is typically a step lower. For example I completely recommend Luxe for anyone who hasn't tried oppai pubs, but Hosekinobako and Leicester are simply better if you can speak Japanese. It's not a big gap but the gap is evident. But all are worth going and I will make my rounds through Luxe to take advantage of the "first time" promo rate then bar hop rather than extend unless I find a great girl. Extending always costs more, it's how they make the real money and fair enough if you are 100% happy with the girl.
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Hello, first post here.
I will have an up coming trip to SEA next summer. Planned to stopover in Tokyo for 5 days and travel in Japan a week after.
I'm an asian and know asian culture very well but my Japanese are very limit. Understand of some easy words. Can understand word but not a long sentense. (now I'm study Japan and hope at least I can talk to them).
Plan is not concrete so still not sure if I should go and stop at Dubai or Tokyo. Have hobby in DC area and have to tell that the quality of J-girls that come here are dramasticly drop from 2022-2023.
Want to experiance the Jgirls in local and seem like if you know some Japanese you will have a great time.
On the other hand wonder what Dubai can offer. Want to sampling EE girls that very hard to find and costly in the US.
Check THC and seem like I would go at least 90 m or 110 m but CFS is a must for me.
Have some questions. At their shop (THC) do we see the actual girl and choose or just her pics? Can we go pickup the girl from the shop and walk to hotel that I stay?
Also, if someone has an experiance in Dubai please chim in. It was about 90% Tokyo for me but we never know cause sometime we settle with 10%.
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Ok, I just understand their procedure.
For incall go to their building choose the girls from pics & their schedule available. Then the girl will come to the shop and go to love hotel together.
Wondering if my hotel are very close? (about 5 minutes from their building) can we go to my hotel?
Can we refuse the girl after seeing her? Like she doesn't look like her pic?
Anyway, want to try Japan love hotel once so I might go for incall on my first time.
Last year on my 8 hrs layover from HND. I went to Shibuya, Shinjuku walk around Okubo park cause want to know what it actually looks like. Around 5 pm-6 pm. Sad thing was not have any girl that catch my eye. Anyway, I fell it was pretty safe over there.
Got some ramen and nice food and back to the airport.
Anyway, first thing to do is improve my Japanese skills.
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[QUOTE=Kirschta;2970121]Ok, I just understand their procedure.
For incall go to their building choose the girls from pics & their schedule available. Then the girl will come to the shop and go to love hotel together.
Wondering if my hotel are very close? (about 5 minutes from their building) can we go to my hotel?
Can we refuse the girl after seeing her? Like she doesn't look like her pic?
Anyway, want to try Japan love hotel once so I might go for incall on my first time.
Last year on my 8 hrs layover from HND. I went to Shibuya, Shinjuku walk around Okubo park cause want to know what it actually looks like. Around 5 pm-6 pm. Sad thing was not have any girl that catch my eye. Anyway, I fell it was pretty safe over there.
Got some ramen and nice food and back to the airport.
Anyway, first thing to do is improve my Japanese skills.[/QUOTE]The Love Hotels near THC are very close. 5 minutes. You can't refuse the provider because it's prepaid. Promoting vaginal sex is illegal, but most THC girls will offer it in the love hotel. Just be clean and respectful.
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[QUOTE=Kirschta;2970121]Ok, I just understand their procedure.
For incall go to their building choose the girls from pics & their schedule available. Then the girl will come to the shop and go to love hotel together.
Last year on my 8 hrs layover from HND. I went to Shibuya, Shinjuku walk around Okubo park cause want to know what it actually looks like. Around 5 pm-6 pm. Sad thing was not have any girl that catch my eye. Anyway, I fell it was pretty safe over there.
Got some ramen and nice food and back to the airport.
Anyway, first thing to do is improve my Japanese skills.[/QUOTE]Yes, Japanese language helps, I first went with 3 months Japanese and had no problem sightseeing - just trouble getting in to shops. That's why we are highlighting shops that are friendly to English speakers, whether oppai pubs, soapland, or delivery health. Chinese and Korean are welcomed at most of the places that take English. At Luxe, half their staff were native English speakers. About 2 years of Japanese is where I gained a lot of benefit, it was a lot of fun and I went Japan 20 times. Japan is very good for tourists, a lot of people helped me when they didn't have to. I tried to do my best for others in turn.
The distance to your hotel doesn't matter at all. You just need to know if your hotel allows guests. It will be obvious when you check in and try to go to your room. Some hotels require a room key to operate the elevator, after tapping an IC spot on the elevator. Others don't and you can freely use them. But of course if your hotel doesn't work, you can just use a love hotel and enjoy it.
As for refusing the girl, it just really depends on the shop. I look at the situation totally backwards, I only use a shop that is good and sends girls that match their pic. About photos, for example at KK soapland the girl is always the same as her pic but they take the photo at a good angle. But I don't mind, I will judge her by her service anyways. With Delivery Health, guys care more about looks, so if there is a face shot you expect it to match the girl you picked. You have to settle this how you think right. If the girl you get is good looking, of course you wave her in anyways. But if you think there's a problem, say you expected a certain girl so there must be some mistake. Girls sometimes change their appearance so do check and make sure. I think ultimately if you use a "good shop" this won't happen in the first place. Any normal good shop wants you to be happy and keep using them.
If you are from NOVA, you may know that a few popular girls who toured there also work at DH shops in Tokyo. It's one reason I know certain shops are "very photo accurate", even though I haven't used the shop itself yet. But I saw their girl already. I once posted that one girl was a 9 and had two NOVA guys immediately correct me that she's a 10 LOL. Video ads tend to be "photo accurate" as well and some DH shops have them.
Glad you had a fun time. Japan is very safe as long as you never follow a nigerian / black tout in Kabukicho to their scam bar. I would avoid the Chinese / Korean / White touts as well, it's just a waste of money. Go to Manzoku or a shop you already know about.
There are so many types of shops in Japan. There was a "sexy cabaret" called Super Angel where the girls do line up and you call the one you like over, it is otherwise like an oppai pub. However most girls were not Japanese. I did not quite mind, I would like to go again if there weren't so many other great choices especially staffed by Japanese girls. I highly recommend the Manzoku shop in Kabukicho where you can just tell them "I speak a little Japanese, what shops can I go" and they will 100% confirm with the shop if you can enter or not as your broker. Used them 20 years, they get you the best promo rate anyways. Look for my Manzoku post on how to get there and how they work among the guides here:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4403-Japan-guides-focusing-on-Oppai-Pubs-Soapland-Delivery-Health&p=2966012&viewfull=1#post2966012[/URL] Various Japan guides
Good luck!
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The distance to your hotel doesn't matter at all. You just need to know if your hotel allows guests. It will be obvious when you check in and try to go to your room. Some hotels require a room key to operate the elevator, after tapping an IC spot on the elevator. Others don't and you can freely use them. But of course if your hotel doesn't work, you can just use a love hotel and enjoy it.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4403-Japan-guides-focusing-on-Oppai-Pubs-Soapland-Delivery-Health&p=2966012&viewfull=1#post2966012[/URL] Various Japan guides
Good luck![/QUOTE]Is that possible to use my place for incall? Not outcall cause I might stay very near by THC (2-8 minutes walk). Think that I will walk in together with a guest and pay for 2 persons stay on my trip.
Do the hotel really care if I bring in different girls day after day? I personally won't mind for clamp space and mostly won't pay much for a place to sleep. I will go outside almost all the time any way.
Agreed that Japan is very easy to travel. Travel over there two times with almost zero of my Japanese and still have a great time. I understand it will much more better if you can communicate with the the local. I can read Hiragana, Katagana and some kanji. I will do my best to learn so hopefully I can talk Japanese at least a primary school level.
Did you talk about Elsa? I think I saw her pics in a Japan shop too. Elsa good if she's available I might give her a visit LOL.
Also, I planned to stay in Shinjuku for 5 days. I looked at Shibuya and Shinjuku hotel and saw Shibuya has a significant higher rate. So, decided to stay in Shinjuku. Also, I can walk around explore lot of things and never to worry about the last train.
Right now I planned to visit Gingira, THC, TAE in Shibuya and Luxe oppai club. Yokohama also in my travel list. Want to visit ramen museum & cup noodle museum over there might try Kira Kira on the way back to Tokyo if I haven't success with those three earlier.
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Pink Salons
There aren't that many reports about Pink Salons, and the ones there are (eg Jan Jan) suggest these are few and far between now.
This appears to be countered by the following: [URL]https://mysecretjapan.com/tokyo-pink-salons/[/URL].
Not sure how accurate it is but it does seem quite recent so happy to hear feedback.
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[QUOTE=Kirschta;2970018]Also, if someone has an experiance in Dubai please chim in. It was about 90% Tokyo for me but we never know cause sometime we settle with 10%.[/QUOTE]If you want a pretty EE girl in Dubai, costs:
1000 aed girl (minimum) + 200 club entrance + 300 hotel room = 1500 aed or 400 usd for 1 HR.
For Japan, using DH:
27 k yen + 10 k FS tip + 5 k hotel = 42 k yen or 267 usd for 1 HR.
Pros / Cons:
- Big factor is that you get to see the girl in Dubai as you will be picking them up in bars / clubs. In Japan, you will be scheduling your visits with DH / SL. Reserving a girl in advance.
- So in Japan, you will be ordering blind. There is no guarantee the girl will be what you imagine her to be, plus they use face censors and filters too. You risk throwing your money down the drain as you will be paying in advance before you even meet the girl.
- You can of course opt for premium SL's that have hot girls only, but those seem to be 2 x the DH price.
- Service wise no difference. Japan edges out because you shower with the girl (she washes you) while in Dubai the girl showers first and can easily eat up 15 minutes.
- Communication is also better in Dubai, girls can speak some English vs none at all in Japan.
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[QUOTE=Kirschta;2970399]Is that possible to use my place for incall? Not outcall cause I might stay very near by THC (2-8 minutes walk). Think that I will walk in together with a guest and pay for 2 persons stay on my trip.
Do the hotel really care if I bring in different girls day after day? I personally won't mind for clamp space and mostly won't pay much for a place to sleep. I will go outside almost all the time any way.
Agreed that Japan is very easy to travel. Travel over there two times with almost zero of my Japanese and still have a great time. I understand it will much more better if you can communicate with the the local. I can read Hiragana, Katagana and some kanji. I will do my best to learn so hopefully I can talk Japanese at least a primary school level.
Did you talk about Elsa? I think I saw her pics in a Japan shop too. Elsa good if she's available I might give her a visit LOL.
Also, I planned to stay in Shinjuku for 5 days. I looked at Shibuya and Shinjuku hotel and saw Shibuya has a significant higher rate. So, decided to stay in Shinjuku. Also, I can walk around explore lot of things and never to worry about the last train.[/QUOTE]
About taking a girl to your hotel manually, it's certainly possible. Be discreet and it should be easy. I even did it at the strictest hotel possible where it's not allowed. See my story about the time I missed out on North Korean pussy.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2951357&highlight=korean#post2951357[/URL] Picking up civilian girls, North Korean pussy
At that time I had taken 3 years of HS Chinese and about 2 years Japanese. 1-3 years of either language goes a really long way if you get creative. And Hiragana, Katakana, some Kanji alone will take you far. It will even help you learn Japanese without even meaning to, like when you're on the train trying to see which station it is and how many stops to where you're going. I memorized a ton of stations this way, and started noticing certain words and phrases repeating on signs that I now know. Learning some conversational Japanese will make things really fun, at first it meant being able to talk with a lot of people. Later I realized I could flirt with Japanese women at oppai pubs. A reminder you can bang 1 girl or flirt with 9 for about the same cost. I do some of both.
You know who I mean but I don't want to single out girls since every guy has his type and also to be respectful. Everything is between you and the girl. When we have a good time, more girls will turn those triangles into circles. There are so many choices and several guys who tried two or three girls ended up finding a new girl they really liked. It's the ultimate gacha game and I hope we can improve everyone's odds with intel. Especially with DH you need to negotiate for fs. The one tip I give is to be the first to say a number, I would start with 10k first since many girls take it. Even 20k is not much. And I always make it as "just an idea" since we played and I'm hard and ready anyways. I'm prepared not to do it, and I think this helps sell it since most girls will take what they can get. A reminder that soapland works different, you can just ask the girl without tip ever.
The last train point is true, Shinjuku is open late but various things do start to close after midnight. In Kabukicho is important not to follow foreign touts (black, Chinese, Korean, white), they will take you to a non-Japanese shop that sucks. This is a particular problem with Kabukicho, everywhere else in Japan most touts were Japanese staff working for legit Japanese shops.
Your order of shops makes sense since you are focused on fs. I would just suggest that Luxe and Kira Kira offer a totally different experience if you can squeeze it in. A lot of die-hard delivery health guys still have fond memories of the first time they went to an oppai pub even though they don't repeat since they want sex.
If you go cup museum, it's across the street from World Porters. Food and shopping, a small arcade, a family friendly animal place to touch adorable animals (Ani Touch). There is a gondola connecting World Porters and Sakuragicho but that is for sightseeing, obviously taxi is faster. Sakuragicho has a lot more food, Yokohama station has Sogo department store for shopping and food (basement for casual, top floor for dining). It is maybe 13 minutes to walk from Kira Kira to Sakuragicho station, you are walking past the night district where bars will open later.
[QUOTE=BlackEngine44;2970502]- Service wise no difference. Japan edges out because you shower with the girl (she washes you) while in Dubai the girl showers first and can easily eat up 15 minutes.
- Communication is also better in Dubai, girls can speak some English vs none at all in Japan.[/QUOTE]
This is a great summary of the pros and cons. No need to fly to Japan if you are closer to Dubai or dislike working around the language barrier. Or, if you really like Japanese girls, obviously Japan is full of them. Distance is also a factor, lots of people from Korea, China, and Taiwan choose Japan because it is fast and cheap to get to. Enough for a few days break from girlfriends and work.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;2970459]There aren't that many reports about Pink Salons, and the ones there are (eg Jan Jan) suggest these are few and far between now.
This appears to be countered by the following: [URL]https://mysecretjapan.com/tokyo-pink-salons/[/URL].
Not sure how accurate it is but it does seem quite recent so happy to hear feedback.[/QUOTE]
I've skimmed their other guides and they cover things in good detail. I've been thinking on a simpler explanation of Japanese law about paying for sex with "unspecified persons". I often watch Japanese TV and there are NHK documentaries on hostess clubs where the hostess will say on camera "Yes I sometimes sleep with clients". 100% legal. She could even go further and say "I sleep with them for money". 100% legal. She could even name the price except that would make some of her fans butthurt since they don't all pay the same. It's legal is because the Japanese law is only against "unspecified persons" aka people you don't already know. So it is only illegal to offer sex for money "to strangers". And the wording is to the extent that even a flimsly excuse like Tobita (girl serves you a snack and chats with you before sex) is enough. And true enough, if you walk around Tobita the girls may nod their head in approval saying they approve of you. They are free to refuse anyone they don't like, and occasionally will. Now given that these are thin excuses, people don't push the boundaries and act discreet. Hope this helps.
[B]Blast from the past[/B]
Tobita reminds me of Koganecho glass houses. Here is a post I made about it over 20 years ago:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=291141&highlight=koganecho#post291141[/URL] Traveler X 2004
Koganecho no longer exists, but like how Yoshiwara is filled with soapland Koganecho was filled with small glass houses you could look into. You could see a woman in each one, and if they like you they'll nod to you and if you like them you go inside. Give them 1 man en ($64) to bang. I think I saw about 20 girls there. Though one night I saw the same Thai girl 3 times. Unlike Tobita it was mostly Chinese girls, some Thai, some Japanese, some white. I learned there that the hottest girls often give the lowest service. There was one girl who was leagues better looking than most other girls, but you see she was nonstop busy because it was so obvious how good looking she was. So her window blinds were always down as she was with someone. So I couldn't see her, but next time on a rainy day I checked and finally she was free. She was as hot as I imagined, fantastic tits too, but her attitude wasn't good. However she was so hot, I didn't even care! It was a good lesson.
There was another Chinese girl I saw and things were going really great, she was hot and we were having fun, she was enjoying it. She loved my dick, quite refreshing. But suddenly she said something maybe 15 minutes in, I couldn't understand her Japanese. In hindsight she was probably telling me to finish soon. I couldn't finish anyways, so she told me we had to stop. I didn't understand, but I got up and cooperated. She told me I had to leave, and handed me half my money back saying "It was really fun for me too, so just go" Damn, she is here to make money not love. It was a good lesson.
About the adult party mentioned, these were korgs in Japan. All in Shin Okubo, basically Koreatown. The shop I went to the most had 3 to 4 girls usually, but others had more. You hang around and watch tv with Korean girls while chatting with them until you picked one. Most were early 20s and active college students. The rates varied between shops and the year but I remember one time paying 22000 yen for 2 girls ($140), and other times paying 28000 yen for 3 girls ($180). The 3 girl rate was literally cheaper than TJ, and the girls way better. The majority HYA by today's standard. The Korean exchange rate at the time was really distorted at this time. The same way jgirls now go to the US, kgirls were going to Japan. Many years later, I discovered korgs had spread to the US too.
I mention I met a Korean Zhang Zi Yi. The first time I met her, she was checking me out before I even sat down in the room (it was raining and I was taking care of my umbrella and pants in the hallway). So it was a given I would take her before we spoke any words to each other. She flirted with me with her lips and eyes to signal me to take her, we barely spoke any words. Upstairs there is a full room, plus another bigger room but divided into several cubicles. We were lucky to get the full room and it was hot and wonderful with her. I had just landed in Japan the day before, what a way to enter paradise. Unlike every other girl she didn't want to suck cock very long but she was exactly my type so I didn't even care. As we finished and chatted briefly, she asked if I liked her since I obviously did. So I said yes. She told me then I had to pick her again. WTF. She even got on top of me and said if you don't..and choked me playfully but I could tell with those wild Korean eyes, she meant it. It would be another 20 years before I would get those same wild Korean eyes of jealous love again. Back downstairs, of course I have another ticket left for my second girl. It was on my mind, I was a bit subdued and even if the other girl chatted with me I didn't say much back. At this party, if another Japanese customer comes in to join he might pick your girl. So I picked her again. Then took her out on a date.
I was the only non-Japanese customer until a 3rd friend was invited by Sailing. The korg is for Japanese customers only for safety, but they can bring a guest they vouch for. They screen customers the same way korgs in the US do. So obviously, most of the time other Japanese customers come and go and join us in the living room. If there is a girl you like, you're free to chat with her. Find out about her major or what she likes. How old she is, compliment her. One time it was the Japanese customer who was chatting it up with one of these Korean girls. They all speak Japanese (much better than me). He was really having a fun time, treating it like a hostess club all smiles and laughs. But I notice he just talks to her, doesn't pick her and take her up. She's the girl I want. However I'm not going to take her from under him if he's talking to her. So the moment he stops talking to her for a few minutes, then looks at what's on the TV, it's fair game. I tell her, "Let's go up". She's happy to. We bang happily. Lots of naughty tongue play too. For him, it was a good lesson.
Hadaka no Ousama is explained at the very end of this post
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666&highlight=hadaka#post2946666[/URL] Types of shops in Japan
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[QUOTE=BlackEngine44;2970502]If you want a pretty EE girl in Dubai, costs:
1000 aed girl (minimum) + 200 club entrance + 300 hotel room = 1500 aed or 400 usd for 1 HR.
For Japan, using DH:
27 k yen + 10 k FS tip + 5 k hotel = 42 k yen or 267 usd for 1 HR.
Pros / Cons:
- Big factor is that you get to see the girl in Dubai as you will be picking them up in bars / clubs. In Japan, you will be scheduling your visits with DH / SL. Reserving a girl in advance.
- So in Japan, you will be ordering blind. There is no guarantee the girl will be what you imagine her to be, plus they use face censors and filters too. You risk throwing your money down the drain as you will be paying in advance before you even meet the girl.
- You can of course opt for premium SL's that have hot girls only, but those seem to be 2 x the DH price.
- Service wise no difference. Japan edges out because you shower with the girl (she washes you) while in Dubai the girl showers first and can easily eat up 15 minutes.
- Communication is also better in Dubai, girls can speak some English vs none at all in Japan.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I'm not a clubs / bars person. So, for me it takes more energy and time consuming.
That's why I want to go in the shop first and pick them from unfiltered pictures.
Both have con and pro. Can't find pretty EE girls that rate $400 / HR here. Well after some org got busted years ago.
[QUOTE]This is a great summary of the pros and cons. No need to fly to Japan if you are closer to Dubai or dislike working around the language barrier. Or, if you really like Japanese girls, obviously Japan is full of them. Distance is also a factor, lots of people from Korea, China, and Taiwan choose Japan because it is fast and cheap to get to. Enough for a few days break from girlfriends and work.[/QUOTE]Well, actually both are equally same distance for me. I also want to learn Japanese for a long time anyway. Honestly, I love Japanese girls. They cute / young and their attitude is IMO better than other ethics. That's why I said 90% Tokyo but It's still not a close deal until I book a ticket.
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[QUOTE=TravelerX;2968569]4) There is no punishment for Johns in Japan. Excepting if she's a minor. No soapland or DH is going to send you a minor because they don't want to get fucked, so cool. Win win.
[/QUOTE]Below what age is "minor"?
Age of Consent vs Age of Majority
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SL girl?
[QUOTE=BlackEngine44;2970502]
- Big factor is that you get to see the girl in Dubai as you will be picking them up in bars / clubs. In Japan, you will be scheduling your visits with DH / SL. Reserving a girl in advance.
- So in Japan, you will be ordering blind. There is no guarantee the girl will be what you imagine her to be, plus they use face censors and filters too. You risk throwing your money down the drain as you will be paying in advance before you even meet the girl.
- You can of course opt for premium SL's that have hot girls only, but those seem to be 2 x the DH price.
- Service wise no difference. Japan edges out because you shower with the girl (she washes you) while in Dubai the girl showers first and can easily eat up 15 minutes.
- Communication is also better in Dubai, girls can speak some English vs none at all in Japan.[/QUOTE]I understand DH is delivery health service. May I ask what does SL mean?
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[QUOTE=Gordon987;2970608]Below what age is "minor"?[/QUOTE]Under 18 in Japan.
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SL SoapLand
DH Delivery health.
SL SoapLand.
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[QUOTE=Gordon987;2970608]Below what age is "minor"?[/QUOTE]It is 18 in Japan. There are multiple overlapping laws, including the The Child Prostitution and Pornography Act (1999) as well as the corruption of minors law. Another recent change has lowered the age of adulthood from 20 to 18, which doesn't affect the industry much except allow for 18 year old porn stars like the rest of the world. Previously, 18 and 19 year olds could not sign contracts or do work without parental permission. Likewise, shops now feature a few 18 and 19 year olds (it is just super rare for a 19 year old to get her parents' permission to work DH or star in porn). One of my ATFs started at 19. Same with maid cafes, girls bars, hostess clubs, oppai pubs. In any case no normal shop would send you an underage girl, since they would be in just as much trouble too.
This is where police focus their efforts, as well as streetwalkers that cause public embarrassment. When I say Japan is lax on prostitution, for example Japan arrested 270 prostitutes in 2023. In the US for the same period, it is closer to 70,000. The reason being Japan focuses on cleaning up streetwalkers who gather and embarrass the public. Even against streetwalkers they are quite lenient, attempting to offer counseling and assistance most of the time.
Excepting streetwalkers, prostitution between consenting adults in Japan works the same as pachinco. Effectively legal due to the legal system's lenient rules. Soapland and delivery health are "prostitution with an extra step", the same way pachinco is "gambling with an extra step". It is completely legal to pay for sex with someone you know or to pay for anal sex and then miss the hole, and it is completely legal to bet money on metal balls which are then laundered into actual money again. In Japan, that's all that's needed.
Note that the legal age of drinking alochol is 20. But an 18 year old can serve alcohol even if they can't drink it. That gap is actually not unusual, it's the same in the US where an 18 year old can sell or serve alcohol even though they can't drink. But in practice this is a limitation on hostess clubs and oppai pubs since guys expect the girl to drink alcohol with them. But some 19 year olds will apologize and if they're cute we all forgive them of course. It sucks to be an ugly girl in this world.
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Where I got success in Tokyo
Speaking no Japanese put me a a huge disadvantage in Japan. So many touts that must be avoided at all costs. Massage parlours have a high chance of delivering HR but that wasn't what I was after. Figuring that the Kabukicho area would be the best area, I entered some of the brightly lit "entertainment" shops but got nowhere due to language barrier and a feeling that I might get ripped off.
So I started visiting massage shops, being very upfront about what I wanted. Obviously I avoided them if they looked legit. It didn't take me long to strike gold in a wide short alley off Hanamichi-dori street. Sorry I can't remember the name. 2 flights up some outside steps. Open 24 hours.
The madam spoke very little English but was very friendly and clearly wanted my business. There was an English menu with varying levels of massage starting at 50,000 Yen (£25) which was likely a basic massage. The top level was 150,000 Yen which was sex. Not on the menu (but available) was BBFS with CIP for 200,000 Yen. I've been a few times and always had a great service from either Chinese or Thai girls, always pretty and thin in their 20's. The "rooms" are separated by thin wood and the doors are a curtain, with a mattress on the floor.
It starts with being showered by the girl and then mind-blowing sex with DFK, BBBJ, BBFS and CIP over the next hour. Then a final shower with the girl.
The place isn't busy with customers at all and I suspect that the girls are genuinely happy to earning some cash. More than they would get back home. They come to Japan for a few weeks at time.
Not cheap but knowing that I'm going to get great service means a lot to me.
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[QUOTE=StevieJ1;2971234]The madam spoke very little English but was very friendly and clearly wanted my business. There was an English menu with varying levels of massage starting at 50,000 Yen (25) which was likely a basic massage. The top level was 150,000 Yen which was sex. Not on the menu (but available) was BBFS with CIP for 200,000 Yen. I've been a few times and always had a great service from either Chinese or Thai girls, always pretty and thin in their 20's. The "rooms" are separated by thin wood and the doors are a curtain, with a mattress on the floor.
It starts with being showered by the girl and then mind-blowing sex with DFK, BBBJ, BBFS and CIP over the next hour. Then a final shower with the girl.
The place isn't busy with customers at all and I suspect that the girls are genuinely happy to earning some cash. More than they would get back home. They come to Japan for a few weeks at time.
Not cheap but knowing that I'm going to get great service means a lot to me.[/QUOTE]Wonderful, we don't have enough reports on massage shops. Just want to point out there is an extra 0 in the prices. So you listed 50,000 yen for 25 pounds but of course it was 5,000 yen for 25 pounds. Lucky you, years ago it would have been 40 pounds. No doubt compared to back home, the girls are much better with better service on average. As you say, always avoid all those touts in Kabukicho. I would say that even with zero Japanese, you can still try the Manzoku shop there's no harm in asking. They will 100% know which shops you can get into. I've used them 20 years to refer me to shops, although at first I could only get into oppai pubs. They will call each shop and confirm if they will let you in. That call is the green light, it even helps when a shop is totally full and won't let me in (or any Japanese customer), as well as in the off chance things are so slow they'll take me even if they normally wouldn't.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963461#post2963461[/URL] How to get into Manzoku.
This is a very common thing with Japan, Korea, and China which count by 10,000 instead of 1,000. Locals get confused when you say "ten thousand" since they've never heard of the number. They always say man (Japanese, Korean), or wan (Chinese). They always count money in units of 10,000 (man en) when it goes above that number:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2969659&viewfull=1#post2969659[/URL] The price of things in Japan.
For anything Japanese (sushi, trains, Japanese women), it's cheap in Japan. Different cities and places have their specialty too. No surprise that many massage shops offer Chinese and Thai girls. I don't know much about massage but every massage place was staffed by them. I mainly did this in Nagoya where you could get massage with light touching or a hj. There is a very tricky paradox - hj and bj are 100% legal so in Nagoya I could straight up ask the girl for them. But if a girl or shop also offers fs, then suddenly nobody wants to talk about "what happens". And the girls who were offering hj or bj in Nagoya were doing them out of an apartment (not paying taxes or licensed to run a shop), so it wasn't the sex that was the problem but their shop was "underground" off the radar. These days I completely avoid non-Japanese shops, I just don't want to take my chances. But sharing intel is always good.
[QUOTE=StevieJ1;2971234]It starts with being showered by the girl and then mind-blowing sex with DFK, BBBJ, BBFS and CIP over the next hour. Then a final shower with the girl.[/QUOTE]
For those new, any shop that offers shower is a big plus. Whether soapland, delivery health to a love hotel (where you shower there), or a better massage place like the one you found. Two showers is the gold standard. It is the defining characteristic of korgs in the USA.
[I]It didn't take me long to strike gold in a wide short alley off Hanamichi-dori street.[/I]
Unfortunately, no name from the shop. I had the same problem when I started, no way to remember a shop name in a language I couldn't speak. So one tip is if you just ask them for a business card or anything, they will probably have it. Listing phone number, address, even a mini map. Japan is old school like this, very paper driven still with business cards and printed ads and pamphlets. Good luck!
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Hey I'm going to be in town. I'm visiting for a week for the first time solo. Any recs or people that want to hang out?
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[QUOTE=StevieJ1;2971234]Speaking no Japanese put me a a huge disadvantage in Japan. So many touts that must be avoided at all costs. Massage parlours have a high chance of delivering HR but that wasn't what I was after. Figuring that the Kabukicho area would be the best area, I entered some of the brightly lit "entertainment" shops but got nowhere due to language barrier and a feeling that I might get ripped off.
So I started visiting massage shops, being very upfront about what I wanted. Obviously I avoided them if they looked legit. It didn't take me long to strike gold in a wide short alley off Hanamichi-dori street. Sorry I can't remember the name. 2 flights up some outside steps. Open 24 hours.
The madam spoke very little English but was very friendly and clearly wanted my business. There was an English menu with varying levels of massage starting at 50,000 Yen (25) which was likely a basic massage. The top level was 150,000 Yen which was sex. Not on the menu (but available) was BBFS with CIP for 200,000 Yen. I've been a few times and always had a great service from either Chinese or Thai girls, always pretty and thin in their 20's. The "rooms" are separated by thin wood and the doors are a curtain, with a mattress on the floor.
It starts with being showered by the girl and then mind-blowing sex with DFK, BBBJ, BBFS and CIP over the next hour. Then a final shower with the girl.
The place isn't busy with customers at all and I suspect that the girls are genuinely happy to earning some cash. More than they would get back home. They come to Japan for a few weeks at time.
Not cheap but knowing that I'm going to get great service means a lot to me.[/QUOTE]May I ask. Was those shop a Japanese girl or Asian girl?
Yeah. Not cheap but you had a great time which much more important.
[QUOTE=TravelerX]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...61#post2963461 How to get into Manzoku.[/QUOTE]Will absolutely go to Manzoku shop and ask them for recommend (osusume).
Also, how much for Manzoku services? I guess it should not more than a 10,000 (man) yen. 5,000 (go sen) yen?
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[QUOTE=Kirschta;2971337]May I ask. Was those shop a Japanese girl or Asian girl?
Yeah. Not cheap but you had a great time which much more important.
Will absolutely go to Manzoku shop and ask them for recommend (osusume).
Also, how much for Manzoku services? I guess it should not more than a 10,000 (man) yen. 5,000 (go sen) yen?[/QUOTE]
Manzoku is 100% free. If anything, you will get a discount going through Manzoku normally. It is really different from how things are done in other countries, due to intense competition.
See the Manzoku link for an explanation, you are basically paying LESS if you use Manzoku since you are getting a "first timer" promo". In the case of oppai pubs, Luxe, Hosekibako, and Leicester price match EACH OTHER if you go through Manzoku. They want to get you in their door that bad, so you can fall in love with one girl and keep coming back. So it is 6000 yen or 8000 yen (depending on day / hour) for all 3, even though they normally each have a different price. That is what competition does. Copied from Manzoku post:
[I]Also, Manzoku will get you the best rate by far because it is so competitive. Luxe for example is officially 13k cover charge, don't ever pay it. If I go to Manzoku then it is 6k or 8k "newbie special promo rate", $52. Try kissing three US strippers for $52 total. Note that every oppai pub offers the exact same promo rate because of competition. Imagine if McDonald's, Burger King, and Carl's Junior all offered you their most popular burger for the exact same price of $2.50 as a first time customer. All you do is show up to a 'burger consultant' who walks you to the nearest shop, then the shop gives them back $.50 for the referral. But the burger is really $5 normally. That's how weird it is.[/I]
Obviously Luxe will give promo rates far lower than 13k if you just walk up and ask "Is there a promo rate" or point to an online coupon from their website. They want you in the door. But if you fall in love with a girl you meet and want to extend, then it might become 13k. You see how their business model works.
Manzoku will make sure staff will escort you straight to the shop. If it's close like Luxe, the Manzoku staff walks me there (1 minute, you can literally see it). If it's far like Hosekinobako, their staff will come over and pick you up but it's like 6 minutes and the guy is out of breath because it's far. It turns out the better clubs are further out because a:) The rent is cheaper b) They rely on repeat customers who know better c) They are not tourist traps.
Excerpted from:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963461#post2963461[/URL]
But you see, all that long explanation I just gave you could be skipped if you either: a) just go to Manzoku in the first place b) Go to an oppai pub's website and snapshot or print out their coupon. Manzoku is often actually cheaper than the shops own promo! I'm no expert on pricing because I literally still use Manzoku despite speaking fluent Japanese now, so I don't know pay attention to the shop's official pricing. But whenever there's a line at the shop, I see their price list and I'm a bit surprised. Then I look up their ad on yoasobi and see that there's a coupon but it's not even as good as Manzoku. But keep in mind the price goes UP as the night gets late. Never go 10pm or later because there's a chance the club is full, not to mention you pay more. And I feel like the chance that a better girl is stuck on some guy's lap is higher
If you show up "too early" like 6pm or 8pm, you have the reverse problem. The shop is empty and might not be open. The girls still haven't shown up (if they do, they need 20-40 minutes to get ready). So they will apologize that you need to wait 10-40 minutes. You will get free beer, maybe snacks. I've had this happen occasionally, I'd rather be "too early" than "too late". Note that in this case, it does NOT count towards your 40 minutes of fun. They will remind you of this, but in case you don't understand don't worry. Relax and don't worry, lots of girls show up later. I can only speak for myself, but I wear a watch and they have always given me 40 minutes. I'm sure mistakes can happen, but it isn't common in Japan. I will say you are supposed to get 3 girls however "3 girls" is not actually guaranteed, others have said they might get 2 girls. I've never had that happen, but I'm sure it can happen.
[QUOTE=Jizzme;2971294]Hey I'm going to be in town. I'm visiting for a week for the first time solo. Any recs or people that want to hang out?[/QUOTE]
If you just want an introductory summary to Japan:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666#post2946666[/URL] [B]Introduction to Japan[/B]
The next guide is more detailed and you have to research and decide for yourself. This is what I would have recommended to myself even with zero Japanese - and in this order:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4403-Japan-guides-focusing-on-Oppai-Pubs-Soapland-Delivery-Health&p=2966012&viewfull=1#post2966012 [/URL] [B]Oppai pubs, soapland, Delivery Health[/B]
I think most people are good people but it's my personal policy that I help people here in public on the forums. I prefer to do everything solo myself. If you go to Roppongi on Friday or Saturday night, you can meet a lot of people. Maybe I was lucky but even at the club scene it is safer than pretty much any other country in the world, relatively speaking. The ONLY rule I implore people to follow is to never talk to any black/nigerian tout in Kabukicho, or any other tout in Kabukicho for that matter whether Chinese, Korean, or White. In every other Japanese city the touts are mostly Japanese because there are so few tourists in the RLD. But in Kabukicho there are many tourist traps targeting foreigners and even Japanese who are just new to Tokyo. Either research your shop before you reach Shinjuku, or use Manzoku.
I went to Japan this year and did ZERO research on Shinjuku, I just popped into Manzoku and asked what oppai pubs were open. Because I already know I'm going to go to ALL of them, one after the other. Both Luxe and Leicester are new and I never heard of them. If you see my old post showing dozens of girls' cards every single one of those shops closed by the time of COVID. So I can only speak from my own experience, I don't look for fs in Shinjuku. Each district has its own specialty, and oppai pubs and hostess clubs are Shinjuku's domain.
Japan is extremely safe excepting Kabukicho and a similar area in Osaka. And if you ignore every tout offering to take you to their tourist trap shop, you're safe even in Kabukicho. Best to be done with your business by 1am though, things start closing fast after that. If your hotel is not in Shinjuku beware many train lines start closing at 12pm. It's almost luck if your train still operates or not, when my hotel was 40 minutes away the very last train was 11:30pm since I needed to connect to a 12:05am train.
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Manzoku
Speaking of Manzoku, I assume we can stop by any Manzoku, right?
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[QUOTE=StevieJ1;2971234]Figuring that the Kabukicho area would be the best area[/QUOTE]It's actually the worst area.
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Smooci experiences?
Considering trying out this for an upcoming trip. Used successfully in Thailand previously.
I see a lot of girls' rates around 28000 Y for an hour with unlimited shots. Has anyone here experience with the unlimited shots in such listings? Are BJ covered? Imagine FS is.
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[QUOTE=Gordon987;2971380]Speaking of Manzoku, I assume we can stop by any Manzoku, right?[/QUOTE]
Yes. The one I put on google maps happens to be central and large (more staff, lots of posters to look at). But I did drop by the 2nd Manzoku next to Super Angel a different day. They can take you to any shop they know about, even if they don't have a poster up for them.
This is the google maps link to the central Manzoku. Notice there is a Don Quijote and Family Mart. So what I do is walk past DQ, turn left, walk past Family Mart. You can even ask anyone 'where is family mart (there are two), but never talk to the black/nigerian touts or other non-Japanese touts they will immediately sell you on their scam shop or tourist trap where it's a waste of money. You are perfectly good if you refuse to engage with them, they don't cause trouble in public.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/4vEKi3hVGiZRUZv3A[/URL] Manzoku Shinjuku
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2971377&viewfull=1#post2971377[/URL] Manzoku
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2967038&highlight=manzoku#post2967038[/URL] Manzoku
[QUOTE=Miss MaryHinge;2971921]Considering trying out this for an upcoming trip. Used successfully in Thailand previously.
I see a lot of girls' rates around 28000 Y for an hour with unlimited shots. Has anyone here experience with the unlimited shots in such listings? Are BJ covered? Imagine FS is.[/QUOTE]
For FS (full sex) in Japan, there is a big difference betweeen soapland and delivery health. At soapland FS is always included without tip, just ask. At DH you can expect it but you need to negotiate with the girl, offer her 10k or 20k no guarantees but you will usually get it. At FS, I have always gotten two-shot when I ask but I usually just go for one. If you see my first visit to Kira Kira, I got 4 bjs and 2 fs with nuru and bathtub play, plus a pleasant chat. But with my 2nd girl I wasn't feeling it and did less. You are paying for time and with a good soapland shop the girl is going to take care of you. It's why I recommend Kira Kira for beginners because their focus is on service and their girls are consistent on that. They are competing with other girls at the shop and a girl they won't keep a girl unless she does.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963631&viewfull=1#post2963631[/URL] Kira Kira 1st visit
I think Thailand is a great value if you're there, but soapland offers something very different that still might be worth trying out. People generally expect a high level of service from a proper soapland.
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[QUOTE=StevieJ1;2971234]So I started visiting massage shops, being very upfront about what I wanted. Obviously I avoided them if they looked legit. It didn't take me long to strike gold in a wide short alley off Hanamichi-dori street. Sorry I can't remember the name. 2 flights up some outside steps. Open 24 hours.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your report. I'd like to try to find this spot if you can remember a little more about its location. Hanamichi-dori runs east / west. Do you remember if this alley was more to the west (towards the train station) or to the east? And do you remember if the shop was north or south of Hanamichi-dori? Or if you remember any other recognizable shops or landmarks that were nearby, that would be helpful too.
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Sayuri at Tokyo Hentai Club. AVOID
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=1873[/URL]
Had some time to kill in Shibuya before an appointment and felt like blowing my load, so walked into the local THC shop. Sayuri was the only one available on short notice sans reservation, so I was like, fuck it, why not. Bad idea.
Paid the gold rate for one hour plus extras in the form of instant blowjob and CIM. Met her and she seemed fine at first, but once we got into a love hotel room, her communication got really bad. Like she refused to put any effort in. Once in the room, she also offered FS for an extra 20 K yen. Decided to go for it despite having already paid for CIM.
Long story short: she barely put any effort into it, was complaining about being too tired to properly do a BJ and tried to get out of it by using her hands mostly, and did her best to starfish during actual sex. Worst part was that I ended up fucking her doggystyle and right when I finished, she immediately pulled away, wrecking all the fun in the process.
Trash provider who belongs on the streets. Don't visit her, gents.
Luckily I did have a much better experience with someone else from THC whom I will review later on.
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Last trip report
So I'm back home now, got super sick on the flight back home, but here's my last trip report.
I didn't want to leave Japan defeated from my previous experience at Polaris ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2965922&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2965922).
I read the girls at Tokyo Amateur look very close to their pics, so I chose Setsuna. [URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/%e6%9d%b1%e9%87%8e%e3%81%9b%e3%81%a4%e3%81%aa/[/URL].
On the website, the prices state 50 minutes 17,000 yen + admission fee 2,000 yen + choice fee 2,000 yen. So the total should be 21,000 yen. Yet the booker on Line said it would be 23,100 yen. It's only $13 USD extra, but this really irritated me and I asked him why. He just repeated 23,100 yen. Ok fine whatever, it was my last day in Japan.
I arrived to the place in Shibuya. I paid and he told me to go next door to the LH. The LH was only 2,200 yen for 1 HR. Setsuna arrived and she looked great, youthful, and not far off from her pics. Attitude was pleasant, but it was awkward since I don't speak Japanese. After showering together, she just laid there in bed LOL. I'm used to kgirls taking control and devouring me. But, then again, Setsuna is quite young. Typically, the younger the girl, the worse the service.
Anyway, after some awkward kissing, she offered me the secret menu. I said 10,000 yen, she said no, 20,000 yen. I checked my wallet and all I had left was 14,000 yen and showed her directly. She quickly and cheerfully said ok. LOL.
Total damage was 39,300 yen, $262 USD. I feel like my total experiences in Japan was not good. Mainly due to my fault of not being able to speak Japanese. The most fun I had was at Luxe oppai pub. At my age, just making out and goofing off with girls is a lot of fun. When I get DH, at least for me, the girls just want to leave quickly as possible LOL. Then I feel pissed I wasted all this money. I'm going to study Japanese for the next several months and look forward to oppai pubs.
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[QUOTE=AnalKnight;2972313][URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=1873[/URL]
Had some time to kill in Shibuya before an appointment and felt like blowing my load, so walked into the local THC shop. Sayuri was the only one available on short notice sans reservation, so I was like, fuck it, why not. Bad idea.
Paid the gold rate for one hour plus extras in the form of instant blowjob and CIM. Met her and she seemed fine at first, but once we got into a love hotel room, her communication got really bad. Like she refused to put any effort in. Once in the room, she also offered FS for an extra 20 K yen. Decided to go for it despite having already paid for CIM.
Long story short: she barely put any effort into it, was complaining about being too tired to properly do a BJ and tried to get out of it by using her hands mostly, and did her best to starfish during actual sex. Worst part was that I ended up fucking her doggystyle and right when I finished, she immediately pulled away, wrecking all the fun in the process.
Trash provider who belongs on the streets. Don't visit her, gents.
Luckily I did have a much better experience with someone else from THC whom I will review later on.[/QUOTE]Maybe she doesn't like fucking foreigners.
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[QUOTE=AnalKnight;2972313][URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=1873[/URL]Paid the gold rate for one hour plus extras in the form of instant blowjob and CIM. Met her and she seemed fine at first, but once we got into a love hotel room, her communication got really bad. Like she refused to put any effort in. Once in the room, she also offered FS for an extra 20 K yen. Decided to go for it despite having already paid for CIM.
Long story short: she barely put any effort into it, was complaining about being too tired to properly do a BJ and tried to get out of it by using her hands mostly, and did her best to starfish during actual sex. Worst part was that I ended up fucking her doggystyle and right when I finished, she immediately pulled away, wrecking all the fun in the process.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your warning about Sayuri THC. There is a huge turnover in this work, I've met girls who did it for years and I've met girls on their first week of work ever (it shows). Some girls aren't cut out for it. This is why you see many reports of guys trying 2 or 3 girls with one girl that sucks and another girl that's amazing. The gap between two random girls can be huge.
One thing I've seen others mentioned is not to pay for extras like CIM but just negotiate after. I don't know if this is necessarily better, but the reasoning was sometimes the girl didn't even remember the options. I find the better girls simply do everything happily, and the worst girls have problems no matter what you prepare. Just an idea, more data points on this will help.
Look forward to hearing about your other girl. For those staying longer, if you meet a girl you like get her LINE and ask to meet her again at your hotel. Some girls are happy to do this and cut out the middle man. Only do this with a special girl you want to repeat, since most guys prefer someone new for the variety.
[QUOTE=Enter The V;2972382]Maybe she doesn't like fucking foreigners.[/QUOTE]
Would be odd then since she chose to work for a shop that does nothing but fuck foreigners. Would be like a flight attendant that hates airplanes. More likely, she simply SUCKS.
[QUOTE=Bribs000;2972346]Anyway, after some awkward kissing, she offered me the secret menu. I said 10,000 yen, she said no, 20,000 yen. I checked my wallet and all I had left was 14,000 yen and showed her directly. She quickly and cheerfully said ok. LOL.[/QUOTE]
This is the way.
Girls are about making as much as they can, most will take what they can get. No guarantee it will work but this is 100% the goto strategy by strip club veterans negotiating for the same thing. Glad to hear from you again, there is certainly a learning curve to all this but you are seeing a pattern that will help your success rate in the future.
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Total damage was 39,300 yen, $262 USD. I feel like my total experiences in Japan was not good. Mainly due to my fault of not being able to speak Japanese. The most fun I had was at Luxe oppai pub. At my age, just making out and goofing off with girls is a lot of fun. When I get DH, at least for me, the girls just want to leave quickly as possible LOL. Then I feel pissed I wasted all this money. I'm going to study Japanese for the next several months and look forward to oppai pubs.[/QUOTE]
This is how I started out too, some Japanese goes a long way for fun. The promo rate to enter an oppai pub works out to $38 for 3 girls. If you find a girl you like, it can easily double to extend but I still consider that cheap. If you can get into 3 oppai pubs and club hop, you end up with 9 girls and it's still less than the cost of DH. But, it depends on what you want, many guys only want sex. Like you, I just like flirting with girls because I can enjoy that for hours. There are many levels to play, I once did 3 hours with a girl and could have done more. You just have to find your girl.
Some girls I have them put their legs over me while we chat. I'm not even a foot person but occasionally a girl like Rito has such beautiful feet and she will kick off her heels so I can feel them. A pro like her doesn't even hesitate. She was even better on repeat when I presented her card on a later day to pick her. Other girls are good kissers, others fun to talk with and stroke. And it needs to be said I can see 15 girls and every one of them has different breasts than the others. It's the fountain of youth for me.
About DH girl inconsistency, this goes to the turnover issue. Some girls are not cut out for DH, while other girls know their job and won't give low effort. DH girls are picked for looks over service, while soapland tends to be service over looks on average.
If you max out at Luxe, remember your trick from before of showing a receipt. It could probably get you into Leicester and Hosekinobako again, especially around 8pm before clubs fill up. You also mentioned kgirls, for those in the US, Canada, and Australia there are several cities where you have a lot of good choices. Korean girls at korgs have a high average level of service. You can research them in the Asian threads at most major cities.
As you mentioned, speaking some Japanese goes a long way to having fun with girls and flirting with them at an oppai pub. But also, it can help you open more options including Leicester and Hosekinobako. I think it can work again especially if you go at off hours like 8pm before the place gets packed. Otoh while Leicester and Hosekinobako gives you a bigger roster of girls and some may be better, the girls there are less used to foreigners. That's the main advantage of Luxe even though it limits your options.
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Wanted to ask if anybody has had any luck with Seeking Arragements in Tokyo? I've had mixed results in other cities wondering if it's worth renewing my membership.