Dubai Reports

Auaind,

Don't take this as a blow to your ego. We're all adults here and in a forum where too much formality isnt the norm.

You very well know that what you do isnt acceptable (despite acceptable being relative), but you're irritable because of being called scumbag, creepy etc before told why what you did is wrong. Dont be.

At the end of the day, you can either accept that your practice of profiling WGs (theire are other ways, attitude in the bar, body language, etc as posted in the forum) by checking out their purse is isnt right and discontinue it OR as no one is really checking up on you, you continue to do so knowing where it stands.

Cheers!

[b]Eric[/b]

[QUOTE=Auaind]Wow! Strong feelings coming from people who regularly indulge in an activity which in almost all cultures and by nearly all standards is considered unethical, degrading, illegal and immoral.<snip>[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=11Bravo]But, I'm curious (seriously). Do you believe that when one is indulging in "immoral" activities, then moral behavior is "optional"? That is, is it only when one is engaging in P4P that one can snoop through other's belongings? Or would you feel it's OK to snoop through purses when "legit" visitors are at your place, such as some co-workers over for a BBQ?[/QUOTE]

Moral behaviour isn't ever optional. I'm sure there are far better debaters than me (especially in the Morality thread) who can argue this forever. I won't even go there.

In this case suppose she had lied to me told me she was 21 and her passport/id docs showed her as being 16, then I let her go would what I had done been immoral? Or suppose I'd found drugs (which is quite common here in Tanzania where I live) or something else illegal and I ask her to leave. Or perhaps found something that belonged to me (happens often here again)- Then?

Everyone on this board has their own way of justifying what they do (none of it being either moral or legal). I have my own and believe it or not I do have limits- I do what I do so that I'm comfortable that I'm dealing with someone [relatively] normal. If you guys are instantly comfortable with the the girls you take then, or have other ways of figuring them out, well, that's great for you!!

You may find what I do strange but then again many people feel the same way about our common hobby- paying for sex. Just stop anyone on the street and ask. No, the girls around Astoria don't count!

Lighten up guys! I'll make sure I'll get permission to examine contents from the next WG I hook up with (and include this statement in the next FR)...

(it was a good FR otherwise, no?)

Au

Unrelated question- do hotels in Dubai cartel? Sure sounds like it since they always have "one last room available" during peak seasons. How can they all have one last room all the time. Wouldn't that imply an infinite number of rooms?

Au

[QUOTE=Sporadic]Piper:Was the rate net or ++? Is it girl friendly? They actually have space during DSF or the Airshow? What date did you reserve?
I gathered that you are not a Philosopher. By the way, that is [b]"erect"[/b] co-members, not "elevated."[/QUOTE]

Don´t bother to dodge that arrow, it will never arrive.

Hotels could potentially be "fully booked" and indeed not have one single room available (at any price) but I think this is a very rare situation. (SteveSTX, any comments?)

[quote]Moral behaviour isn't ever optional.[/quote]Since when? Ask Pascal.
[quote]In this case suppose she had lied to me[/quote]She did. She slept with you.
[quote]I'll make sure I'll get permission to examine contents from the next WG I hook up with[/quote]Problem solved. If you are concerned about issues, and ask her to show you the contents of her purse, you are being prudent, not creepy.

[quote](it was a good FR otherwise, no?)[/quote]Fishing for compliments? ;)

I never termed you a scumbag, I only related a word that popped into my head while contemplating your "despicable" behaviour. Hate the sin, not the sinner. That is if you accept the concept of sin. ;)

[quote=auaind]in this case suppose she had lied to me told me she was 21 and her passport/id docs showed her as being 16, then i let her go would what i had done been immoral? or suppose i'd found drugs (which is quite common here in tanzania where i live) or something else illegal and i ask her to leave. or perhaps found something that belonged to me (happens often here again)- then?[/quote]1. this is not [[b]elsewhere[/b]], it's here; any comparison to somewhere else is comparing the cliched "apples to oranges".

2. since you live in tanzania where drugs are prevalent, shouldn't she also be searching you? after all, when push comes to shove, who will le believe brought the drugs: an upstanding businessman, or an obvious prostitute?

3. for age, clubs will have checked id (another reason i like the bars). authorities really [i]frown[/i] on ****s in bars. not saying papers can't be faked; i know some are (most common, a 19, 20 year old listed as 30 to make the visa process easier). but there is a big [i]economic[/i] incentive for a bar to avoid fines...

and another reason to be patronizing fl's, rather than [i]controlled[/i] girls.

basically, any justification you come up with can be turned around and stated from her point of view. such as:
africa is rampant with aids. you come from africa. aids tests are not required for visitors. shouldn't she be searching your bags for aids drugs?

added note: it seems that in today's world, most any action can be [i]justified[/i] by invoking the litany of "security/protection"; just ask george bush, dick cheney, or the next tsa gestapo agent at any american airport. however, i do find actions like these reprehensible.

[quote=auaind](it was a good fr otherwise, no?)[/quote]yes, it was, shame it was spoiled by your actions.
[quote=auaind]sure sounds like it since they always have "one last room available" during peak seasons. [/quote]every hotel has 1 last room available. whether that room is offered to you or not is determined by how much wasta you have.

[quote=morgan]i always tell the girls if they are new in dxb, make sure where are you going to, try to remember the plate number of the car their are riding with, and so on, now i will have to tell them to take all their belongings with them when they take a shower or using the bathroom.[/quote]lol. what's the old saying (no disrepect here): "out of the mouth of babes..." 2 posts, both excellent.

[quote]i m always surprised how trustful those girls are with strangers, with little protection there is for them.[/quote]isn't that the truth!!! it would seem that they can be trusted more than some "straights".

[QUOTE=11Bravo]
And another reason to be patronizing FL's, rather than [i]controlled[/i] girls.
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How can you tell who controlled and who isn't? Besides asking I suppose.

Au

[QUOTE=Auaind]How can you tell who controlled and who isn't? [/QUOTE]If you pay money to a 3rd person (as in "in the bar"), she's controlled.

If her [i]translator[/i] is a big fat woman, she's controlled.

If she has to check with someone before making the deal, she's controlled.

If you call someone on the phone to arrange for a girl, she's controlled.

[QUOTE=11Bravo]If you pay money to a 3rd person (as in "in the bar"), she's controlled.[/QUOTE]

Hmm the girl I was with told me that every day she has to report to her "boss" with the day's takings. Apparently she lives in a room with five or six other girls in the same situation. If she doesn't report she gets in trouble. The boss tells her what bars to go to, what to wear, how much to charge, what to eat, etc. According to her she needs to bring in a certain minimum each night- didn't say how much.

As she was new she had been given the a full briefing the day before.

I suppose this is a type of -controlled- too but much harder to detect.

Au

[QUOTE=Auaind]I suppose this is a type of -controlled- too but much harder to detect.[/QUOTE]I was being (or trying to be) a bit facetious. I will assume you are too.

Just got back from the regular Friday night pool at York. Lost again. But I finally met up with the very very Wicked Roger, at York, which was a highlight. Nice to put a name to a face. He's much better looking than his pics (don't hit me Rog! ;)). He's an energetic dude and just doesn't stop walking talking and planning his next adventures - I just couldn't keep up. He's off mongering overseas again early tomorrow. We had a few laughs and shared a few tales. I'll be getting to Abu Dhabi in the next few weeks hopefully - there's one of his faves I cannot forget.

We were chatting away for ages until I saw one of the most beautiful sweet young faces on an African gal that I've seen in a long time. I beckoned her over with a subtle wave of my hand, and over she came. I'm not sure of her real name, but phonetically it sounded like "Love it". I made the expected joke with her about her name, thinking she'd heard it a million times, but she didn't click. After chatting a few minutes, I handed her my phone and asked her to punch her number in. Just then, about six guys shouted my name and called me over urgently - it was my turn to play pool, and that comes first. I took my phone back from "Love it" before she had the chance to punch her number, told her I was busy and would see her soon, then had a brainstorm and asked Rog to take her number as I raced off, which he kindly did.

After losing my games (as usual, dammit), Rog and I headed over to Regal - still quiet at 10pm, but some cuties trickling in by 11. Later Rog got a call from one of his harem girls. She was obviously more important than me, so he had to leave and bid his farewells. I had another game of pool at Regal, saw a few nice blondes, but decided if I stayed for another beer, I'd stay until the early hours and maybe find myself in a taxi with one of them. So I surprised wildcat by getting home before midnight (I need the brownie points). Noticed she was on my laptop online-chatting in Turkish and ribbed her about it (as she went bright red with a cheesy grin), and all is well.

Relaxed night. Waiting for bachelorhood end of this month.

Piper,

I am seriously let down. You and WR within the same room (any room) and the two biggest shrinking violets on the forum did not take any pictures?

Shame, I expected at least you two, six girls, a camel, a neon butt-plug and a 14¨ hairy dildo!

Your legions of fans will be crushed!

You must be getting old. ;)

[QUOTE=Sporadic]Piper, I am seriously let down. You and WR within the same room (any room) and the two biggest shrinking violets on the forum did not take any pictures?

Shame, I expected at least you two, six girls, a camel, a neon butt-plug and a 14¨ hairy dildo!
[/QUOTE]
Hey! Who says I didn't take any pics?! I know I'll regret this in the morning (I didn't black out her face) - but just for you. :)


She was a good hump. The eyes always get me.

[QUOTE=Piper1]...But I finally met up with the very very Wicked Roger...
We were chatting away for ages until I saw one of the most beautiful sweet young faces on an African gal that I've seen in a long time. ...I took my phone back from "Love it" before she had the chance to punch her number...[/QUOTE]WHERE are your priorities?!?

[QUOTE=Piper1] But I finally met up with the very very Wicked Roger, at York, which was a highlight. Nice to put a name to a face. He's much better looking than his pics (don't hit me Rog! ;)). He's an energetic dude and just doesn't stop walking talking and planning his next adventures - I just couldn't keep up. He's off mongering overseas again early tomorrow.

Later Rog got a call from one of his harem girls. She was obviously more important than me, so he had to leave and bid his farewells.[/QUOTE]

Good to catch up too Piper!

I could makes jokes about how you handle your stick but I wont..... As you lost so therefore it could be construed by some mongers that you don't handle it well (but then you have others who do it for you...LOL!)

As for harem girl...well not really a girl, more of a couple or three, bit of fun and games (swinging) that was starting (but not finishing) before my flight so I thought why not go and play a bit, get on the flight all relaxed and then sleep - I always sleep well after a good rogering!

Look forward to welcoming you to AD when Miss Widlcat leaves you on your own (I reckon I should be the baby sitter!).

Was interesting seeing the York and Regal, not being a monger in Dubai, nice to have a change. As MK and I were discussing Thursday night, the quality in AD is sometimes lacking when you see the Regal and Cyclone (but why go to Cyclone and pay tourist prices if you happy elsewhere). Must do it again soon and I promise there will not be an orgy happening ...well if there is I will get you an invite!

WR

[QUOTE=Sporadic]Piper,

I am seriously let down. You and WR within the same room (any room) and the two biggest shrinking violets on the forum did not take any pictures?

Shame, I expected at least you two, six girls, a camel, a neon butt-plug and a 14¨ hairy dildo!

Your legions of fans will be crushed!

You must be getting old. ;)[/QUOTE]

Don't worry Sporadic. Will posting a serious amount of pics soon, as will MK from our enjoyable evening with Miss N.

As for no pics of the meeting, well we like to keep our army of fans and admirers gagging first before we provide the dirty evidence LOL!!

When we monger together, and assuming the leash for Piper has been increased, am sure we will manage to odd one or 20!

Old? Definitely not..I feel younger each day (well the girl I feel is definitely younger than me!)

WR