Puerto Vallarta

[QUOTE=VegasGuy702]I have a group of guys going down to PV in a few weeks. A couple are very much into the clubs. We are gong for fishing during the day and drinks at night. We go to TJ quite a bit for golf just out side of town and find alot of the girls that are on the street are as nice or nicer than the girls in the clubs. Are there any streets to walk down to see a few girls just hanging out?[/QUOTE]You will not find any particular streets where you will find P4P girls hanging out to my knowledge. It is far from being a Tijuana. I actually do not believe I have ever seen any working girls walking the streets that were even close to anything a normal guy would be interested in. The best advice I can give you is read my report and select what you want to do from that. Have fun and be safe.

P.V. can basically be divided into 2 categories:

1. Day Prostitutes

2. Night Prostitutes

In the day the only place I've found that has cheap hookers is Hotel Alamo. It's about 15-20 minutes outside of Town.

There's usually about 3-4 medium quality women working there. They will try to charge about 800 pesos, but will back down real easy when you start negotiating. About 500 pesos is a fairly reasonable price. I always get lots of BDJ at this place. The next day the same one you were with the day before always starts hanging on you like glue. Just tell them to beat it because you like variety.

At night, the best place to go is La Zona. It too is about 15 minutes outside of town. The cab drivers always try to talk you into going to Hysteria because they get a commission from your entrance cover. Just tell them to be quiet and take you to La Zona. In my opinion Hysteria costs way too much.

La Zona is great! Theres about 4 ***** Houses all in one parking lot. Estravaganza is the most luxurious one. A woman there costs about $50 U.S., and all the other ones a woman can be bought for about $40 U.S. I always buy about 4-5 women a day every time I go to Vallarta. The beers at La Zona range from about 15-20 pesos ($1.50-$2.00). The price to buy a hooker a drink is about $5-$7.

The only other thing to mention is to make it REAL clear to the cab drivers that they will get an ass beating if they follow you around like a lost puppy. They are always hoping that you'll buy them a Chica for a tip.

Good luck, and happy Mongering!

I'll be in PV on Dec. 14 for a month. Any one who want to go out and hit some of the clubs please contact me.

During recent visit here, I was able to get away briefly for a massage. As you are coming from the hotel zones towards the Malecon/down town (Malecon is that walkway near the ocean where they have put some statues every 20 yards or so), you will see some signs for massage places. I went into one. 30$ for one hour. There was a woman dressed all in white, I thought maybe she was a dental hygienist! The massage table has a hole at one end, which is where I guess you are supposed to rest your head. I didn't like that and I refused to stick my head in there. She was kind of bossy. She kept the door a little open for the first part of the massage and then closed the door. She wasn't using a lot of lotion and my skin was being bothered by the friction from the dry massage. Anyways, then she asked for a total of 70$ to include HJ. I talked her down to 50$. Unfortunately I was so horny that I came after about one minute of stimulation. She quickly left the room. I hadn't been very happy with the experience, so I just paid the 30$ to the girl that was sitting at the table in the lobby and left.
There seems to be a lot of massage places available, charging between 30 to 50 $ per hour, but I didn't have time to try any other ones.

I'm trying to get into contact with Fernado. I'm visiting PV in Dec.

[QUOTE=Skug37]
La Zona is great! Theres about 4 ***** Houses all in one parking lot. [/QUOTE]

Just don't go to the fifth ***** House in that particular parking lot. It is called Las Abejas (The Bees), but it is easier to see the word "Travesti" painted above the entrance. The "Girls" there have a little extra something hanging between their legs that you don't want to know about!

I will be in PV for three days in January. I will let you know if I have anything to report upon my return. Thanks to those who have made such good posts in the past.

With any city that hosts as muh tourism as PV, the locals can be incredulous about any out of town visitor. I am fluent in Spanish and managed to find a nice friend in PV. Required a great deal of listnening and effort.

Also, I visited a bunch of massage places. Not much to be had at Del Mar massages, along Avenida Mexico, the street that leads into the Malecon, but I understand that two blocks down, maybe where J.G., went, a more complete menu is available.

I visited a number of other places, and I was not convinced that much was on the menu.

Food, on the other hand, in PV is splendid. I ate at Ocho Tosadas, De Santos, and Las Palomas, among other places. All are recommended. Azul 69 and De Santos have some pretty cool clubs. La Bogedita del Medio is a good place to have some drinks.

"Clausurado". If you see that word on a tape sealing a door, then the authorities have shut a place down. Two daytime places, unfortunately, had this sign on their doors last week:
1) Las Antorchas--this is the bar near the Marina previously reviewed here. They were completely locked up. I climbed through a fence next door and went in. Apparently authorities had caught a girl there that morning without papers. The lady inside said the girl was of legal age--18 years old--so they hoped to reopen the next morning. I went back two days later, but they were still closed and nobody was inside. Stay tuned.
2) Hotel Alamo--on the way to Ixtapa, also previously reviewed here. Nobody was there. The guy at the store next door didn´t even know they had been closed. No great loss, the "girls" there were not great anyway.

So I went back to town in the Naranjo & Madero neighborhood and found a 300 peso (plus 100 for room) quickie. 4 in looks (too many tamales) but what the hey...lowest price I´ve found in a couple of years.

Unless you´re adventurous, I´d recommend you stick to Juniors & Candy´s. I prefer to save pesos and practice Spanish, so I´ll try to stay up past my bedtime and go slumming in the Zona Rosa soon.

I walked by Las Antorchas on Tuesday at 2 PM, and they have reopened. Their location is on the main highway from the airport to town, between the Marina and Outback Steak house, across from the Hacienda Hotel. The place exists mainly for the crew from the cruise ships. There were 5-6 girls and 4-5 clients. I ordered a Pacifico beer (20 pesos) and studied the ladies. They were all pretty hefty, perhaps 4-5 in quality, but one, Laura, caught my eye. She had the typical Mexican full-size figure, but a cute face, with sparkling black eyes and a nice smile. Overall 5 in looks.

She said the hotel in the back was still closed. There is a problem with their paperwork, and she didn't know when it would reopen. So the charges for FS would be 500 pesos + 150 for a local hotel + taxi fare. I said I only had 600 pesos to spend, so she went over to consult with the others for a good 5 minutes. Finally she said, OK, 450 for her, 150 for the hotel, and one of her friends would drive us over and back. Nice of her to accommodate me.

We drove towards the Marina and turned right on the road at the bullfight ring. The hotel was on the right, just before you get to the entrance to Zona Rosa. Laura is 22 years old, lives in Nuevo Vallarta, divorced, with two kids. She was quite friendly and had obviously done this kind of thing before. Sensuous kisses, light touches, and I basically lay on my back to gaze at those nice eyes while she did most of the work. She was unrushed and accomodated my wishes. Because of the good attitude, I would possibly see her again, but actually I'm hoping to find a 6 or 7 in quality next time there.

Anyway, the good news is that daytime sex is alive and well in P.V.

Took a cab out to Zona Rosa (50 pesos from town) at about 10:30 PM on Tuesday. It´s about a mile inland from the bull ring on the airport highway. The place has been going downhill for several years. Now El Tren, the first place on the left as you enter, is no longer open. Too bad--it was less noisy, less fuss, and less pricey than the others. Here´s what´s left:
[b]Stravaganza[/b]. On the right side as you enter. 50 peso cover, or 100 if the show has started. (Or, it appeared, free if you´re Mexican.) One drink minimum. 800 pesos for FS. Good-looking, slender girls.
[b]Las Alanzas[/b]. Across the way from Stravaganza. Very loud. Mediocre-looking chubby girls.
[b]Las Abejas[/b]. To the left as you face Las Alanzas. Empty inside. Three transvestites soliciting out front. Yech.

I decided to leave the compound, probably for the last time ever. La Zona is a dusty, dirty, crumbling setting, with workmen hammering in the yard, men blaring music from their radios, and chickens and cockroaches wandering about. Nothing wrong with a third-world atmosphere if you charge a third-world price. Asking $80+ US to get laid is something you might expect in the USA or even at a nice club in PV, but not in this dump.

On the way back, closer to town on the highway, on the left side, I stopped into [b]Mirage[/b]. Nice, clean setting. No Spanish needed. Good-looking girl on stage, not crowded. $10 US cover, $180 US for 1/2 hour FS including girl, room, and condom.

If these prices don´t bother you, then help yourself. I guess Puerto Vallarta is now a full-fledged (overpriced) resort. FS in a modest Mexican setting with a good-looking girl for a reasonable price seems to be a thing of the past. I hope someone can come on here and prove me wrong.

Had 2 no extras. Sol & Luna was just ok massage. Monica at Venus Sunshine gave a great firm massage. She was cute and I would have enjoyed extras with her, but alas. There was an Asian Massage Parlor on Basilica Basillio but I didn't have time to try it. I suspect that was a mistake, given prior Asian experiences.

Oh well.

Happy Travels,

Arlo

I visited Junior's out of boredom during my stay at PV recently after attending a friend's wedding there.

PV is a nice resort town on its way to become too expensive for all but a few Americans. And Junior's is certainly a prime example.

I got there on a Friday night at around 11pm. The door fee was 100 pesos. The place is reasonably well furnished and clean. There were about 10 customers, a dozen girls and probably close to 20 staff members. Most of the girls don't speak English and don't look interested to interact with any of the customers. The only ones that do are more likely to be on the ugly or heavy side. After spending about 45 mins looking at the pathetic dances these girls put up, I got a tap on the shoulder from a very typical looking Mexican girl with double chin, who asked me for a cigarette. I provided her that and she sat down next to me. From her I was able to gather that the cost of doing her on-site, behind the stage I guess, is $150US. The cost of taking her out for 2 hours is $200US. I was never able to figure out if there is an additional fee payable to the club for the take out because of the lack of a common language. At about 2am, I asked for the bill and for 3 Coronas I was charged 135 pesos. During the entire time, there was never more than 15 customers but there was a group of four Mexicans and another of three Americans that had sort of monopolized all the good looking girls and the rest of the customers just got ignored.

In short, Junior's is a pathetic place for anyone except those from the US sex prison.

Updated info on La Zona. Went there 11 PM Thursday night to test the high prices I was quoted on my last visit. On a hunch, I walked right by the cover charge guy out front of Stravaganza as though I knew it was bogus. (The sign this time said 30 pesos, not 100...go figure). It worked! Then I walked around the room checking out each of the girls. A guy kept offering me a table, for obvious reasons, but the collection of girls didn't look great: a couple of fives, 4-5 fours, and a couple of fat threes. All friendly and smiling, mind you, but not erection-inducing. So back out I went.

Next door, to the left, one additional "club" was open since my last visit: Cadillac. Went inside, and there was blaring music and NO girls. A five with cute face and square body was standing outside and suggested a visit to the hotel for 600 pesos. We agreed on 500 (room included), and off we went. Nice enough, but very perfunctory sex. On the way out I checked out the girls at Las Alanzas across the plaza: 1 slender(!) five, 2 fours and a three.

So the bottom line after two visits: Roughly 14 girls available in the whole (dusty) complex. None were good looking (i.e., 6 or more). Cab fare is 100 pesos roundtrip from town, so mediocre full sex can be had for a total of about US$55. And you have to wait till 10-11 PM for the action to begin.

[QUOTE=DukePV]Updated info on La Zona. Went there 11 PM Thursday night to test the high prices I was quoted on my last visit. On a hunch, I walked right by the cover charge guy out front of Stravaganza as though I knew it was bogus. (The sign this time said 30 pesos, not 100...go figure). It worked! Then I walked around the room checking out each of the girls. A guy kept offering me a table, for obvious reasons, but the collection of girls didn't look great: a couple of fives, 4-5 fours, and a couple of fat threes. All friendly and smiling, mind you, but not erection-inducing. So back out I went.

Next door, to the left, one additional "club" was open since my last visit: Cadillac. Went inside, and there was blaring music and NO girls. A five with cute face and square body was standing outside and suggested a visit to the hotel for 600 pesos. We agreed on 500 (room included), and off we went. Nice enough, but very perfunctory sex. On the way out I checked out the girls at Las Alanzas across the plaza: 1 slender(!) five, 2 fours and a three.

So the bottom line after two visits: Roughly 14 girls available in the whole (dusty) complex. None were good looking (i.e., 6 or more). Cab fare is 100 pesos roundtrip from town, so mediocre full sex can be had for a total of about US$55. And you have to wait till 10-11 PM for the action to begin.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the updated info Duke. It's a shame that PV has gotten so expensive. I noticed that the last time I was there and have been avoiding it like the plague, in order to find new Mongering spots. Mostly everyone else I've talked to here back at home feels the same way. It is good at least to see that Cadillac reopened. It was closed the last time I went and I was totally bummed. I wonder if it's the same owner? It was a woman that owned it when I banged my very first hooker ever there about 6 years ago or so. I went back there about 6 months later and by mistake got some chick that wanted to try to charge more in the room after we were already set on a price. I went and reported her to the owner, and she gave me another woman for no charge. Every time I went back to PV I always bought her a beer. Oh well, too bad that PV has gotten so out of hand now with prices. The last time I was there I noticed that even at Hotel Alamo (where there usually isn't anything better than a 3 or 4 or so the girls were trying to charge a lot. I asked one fat chick why she felt justified in charging a higher price, and she said that it was because when the Cruise Ships come in, that guys would pay her up to 80-100 dollars. Thanks to guys like that it is now a horrbile place to monger.