Kyiv

right off, all my russian friends laughed when i told them i was going to kiev. usually, in moscow, “kokhli” is the punch line of a good joke. they seem to see ukrainians as russian with a speech impediment, who have been kicked in the head a couple of time. add in a legendary appetite for gorlilka and you’ve got kokhli.

even on the train over from moscow, it was nicer. in the past, every time i have traveled by train in the fsu exactly one of my coupemates has either been a) a smelly drunk or b) a talkative drunk. on one rare occasion, i had to share a stateroom with both a smelly and a talkative drunk. the entire system of showing your passport to the conductor makes it blatantly obvious that you are a foreigner and thus are subjected to nonstop questions like “america, good? da?” one hour down, eleven to go.

this time, the only other occupant was a hot ukrainian journalist babe. she made it abundantly clear that she was spoken for, but she did fill me in on things to do while in kiev. it was a welcome change.

after all the negative things the russians had said about the kokhli, i was pleasantly surprised when i got off the train. everything seemed a little more cleaner and better taken care of than in moscow. it also took me about 9 hours to actually spot a cop. i found a 3-room apartment with a bar overlooking the dniper for a laughable price (by moscow standards). amazingly (again coming from moscow) they did not try and screw me over when they heard my accented russian.

after dropping my shit off i had to meet a british friend at the train station. he has been living in moscow for well over the past year and has yet to learn a single symbol of the cyrillic alphabet. couple of drinks later and a gorika run at the local stop, we were ready to go. right outside of our podezd door there were a couple of girls drinking beer. my friend, let’s just call him john, tried his typical line- screaming “do you speak english?” amazingly, it worked. one of the girls was absolutely beat, but the other, alyona, was gorgeous- talk, milky perfect complexion and those exotic cat eyes that slavic girls sometimes have.

my memory somewhat fails me at this point but i remember sitting in a restaurant, with alyona stroking my knee, feeding me bits of bread and sala that she had ordered. when the bill came they, the girls, insisted on paying. i have never had that happen.

alyona’s friend fucked off but she came back with us. john crashed on the couch and i showed alyona to the shower. she came out, wrapped in a towel and right when she was about to slip under the covers, john barges in shouting about a double team and how she told him he had nice eyes, further evidence of her wanting a threesome. i could have strangled him with his shoelaces but settled on throwing out into the hall. despite that, i spent an amazing, and energetic, night with an absolute goddess. so much so that even now, a several days later, i still have scabby raw knees- some kind of friction burn from the sheets.

next day, alyona off to work at her bank. a hungover tour of the city. again, i am impressed- no cops. even the construction sites are free from those trailers packed full of tajik slave labor.

that night, i was dragged down to o’brien’s to watch england barely win over macedonia. a full immersion into british pub culture. john and i downed about 30 gin-tonics between the two of us. we found out from some of the expats where to go. everyone pointed us to either arena or river palace. we went for river palace.

the first thing we see in the lobby is a bunch of 6 foot tall ukrainian goddesses leading out asians in armani half their size. basically, a boarhouse on the river. the women there were stunning but they ask for 300 dollars. i am not sure if that is for the night but whatever it is, it is expensive. the going rate in moscow, the most expensive city in the world, is 150 for a night. this does not bode well if this is the vaunted integration with the eu they are talking about.

neither of us were interested, so we got a cab back to the flat. the driver turns around and goes “devushki?” and we are like “why not”? he starts going on about there were girls working in an “office” by that besoarabian market. sounds shady, but again why not? the place is an apartment decked out like the austin powers psychedelic swinging pussycats club. in the middle on a pink couch, were about 6 working girls. right when we arrived, all there kids from the under 20 kiev soccer league had just gotten there. they would take a girl for 50 dollars and hour and after about 3 minutes would come out of a room with their head hanging. alright, put the children to bed, team america’s turn. i stood up, threw a hundred dollars down on the coffee table, put a girl over each shoulder, kicked the door to the bedroom down and had at it.

wow! i still have this big stupid grin on my face, thinking about it. the girls and i took a shower together to top it all off. got back to the apartment around 6 in the mourning and passed out.

next day, i called alyona who stopped by right after work and did not leave until the next morning. i think i saw blood in one of the condoms.

took off to moscow that next night and have been scheming to get transferred to kiev even since.

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[quote=pt sailor]i made it to kiev. wow!!! rented appartment but it was terrible by us standards, could not sleep, packed up at 4:00 am and walked over and under snow 2 blocks to the premier palace where i checked in for about u$500 a day. great place, ridiculous price and $70 a day for internet access in the room. outrageous. vicktoria the receptionist is very beautiful and helpfull, but a 'good girl. 2 days later moved to much cheapper and almost as good radisson for half the price and free high speed internet in the room. pp charged $5 for capuccinos with breakfast, radisson they are free. girls: most none of the pictures in the sites are true. i did 3 girls a day for 3 days straigth. good bless viagra and the beautiful girls of kiev. best things i did include calling an english speaking driver alex (+38 067 771 08 00 [email]ukrorloff@mail.ru[/email]) who is fun, knowledgable, reliable, trustworthly and will actually pickup girls on the road for you.

at the boat i picked up twins masha and tania (21 yo) tall, classy, skinny, beautiful. very good english. paid $400 for both together. sveta who works for lola (+38 067 465 72 82) is young, skinny, very clean but make sure the number of hours and price is clearly set; basic english. lola is the owner of the escort agency (pimp), she is fun, intelligent and a great date for dinner. darya (+38 066 206 74 96) is a great fuck, blonde, young, clean, etc. her pictures on the net are true. victoria (+38 050 861 7176) is about as beatiful a girl can be and a great fuck. she could be a super model, tall, skinny, great skin, great kisser. $100. don't ruin her.

good luck.[/quote]


sorry to be so late but i red this just today... and you decided not to recieve pm.

you give a lot of facts... do you even have the reference of twins?

that would be great (already done sisters) but twins are my secret dreams, even if they are not stunners...

thanks

it

Hi friends,

There are plenty of girls I picked up'd a nice 32 yo girl at River Boat called Lena. She is ready for anal all the time.

Alright. This place sure has loads of info. I'm in a state of info overkill right now. So let me sum up what I've learned reading all these posts - if I've got something wrong - don't hesitate to correct me or give me even better suggestions. I want this to be a good trip.

My plans when visiting Kiev for four days next week are as follows:

A: Get a chic from Gia to visit my hotel.
B: Get a Rakuena Massage done by three girls.
C: Visit River Palace and see what happens.

My thoughts.
A: Gia looks fine, but the models isn't exactly world class. I'll have a good time I'm sure, but maybe there's a place with women more stylish? A place where they show you real fotos. I don't speak a word Russian btw.

B: Three girls at a time. That sounds fucking awesome. Sad they don't fuck. Because they don't, right? Not even a little blowjob? Not a chance to make a date with them later in the evening? Can that be true? It sounds so unreal, but hey, what do I know.

C: I've been to Boarhouse in Moscow and that was a bit hectic. I would actually prefer af less crowded place and maybe even a place where you can do the fucking in booths, rooms or whatever available. A club, a stripjoint, maybe a topscale brothel (to they exist in Kiev?).

D: What did I miss?

Hope you have some comments or/and some good recommendations. I like slim not skinny girls and I like them titties to do some serious bouncing. So pls. no A or B for me.

All the best

Black Bltjones

Anyone ever consider bringing back one of these vixens back to USA for a quid pro quo arrangement, you give me sex and in 2 or 3 years you get a green card?

If I was interested in such an arrangment, how can I go about looking for ladies in Ukraine? Any tips please?

[QUOTE=It Travel]Here are the last Gia prices, now they have VIP Models
Here is the full price list.

We present GIA girls for you:
.....

It seems that the price goes up in summer... Recently a lot of new or re entered girls.. The price goes also on gound they speak or not English. Surely my favorites are the petite Zlata and Yana (VIP).

IT[/QUOTE]Hey guys, seeing and reading around I read about fake pictures. Is GIA to be trusted? Are the girls looking like they do on the pics?

I see some real beauties like Zlata and Yana and don't want a 100 kg woman knocking at my door saying she is Yana. Right? So please tell me for I am going to Kiev next week.

[QUOTE=Fg Fort]Hey guys, seeing and reading around I read about fake pictures. Is GIA to be trusted? Are the girls looking like they do on the pics?
[/QUOTE]


YES, Gia is a what you see is what you get agency, photos are real 100%, but, dont forget that are very professional pics ( studio ones), so may be the girl will not appear as glamurous as in the pic, but in any case the girl you will met is the one of the pic and are not old photos

[QUOTE=Cool Morris]Anyone ever consider bringing back one of these vixens back to USA for a quid pro quo arrangement, you give me sex and in 2 or 3 years you get a green card?
[/QUOTE]

you can find in USA many russian and ukrainian pretty pros that will offer you exactly that to get the green card, but they ask you for fake marriage and will offer you 3 years of free sex

[QUOTE=Fg Fort]Hey guys, seeing and reading around I read about fake pictures. Is GIA to be trusted? Are the girls looking like they do on the pics?

I see some real beauties like Zlata and Yana and don't want a 100 kg woman knocking at my door saying she is Yana. Right? So please tell me for I am going to Kiev next week.[/QUOTE]


Gia is usually (I fucked some) exacly the girl in picture, of course with professional make-up, some photoshop, and a photo studio. Same if you see Cameron Diaz on a calendar or on Rodeo Drive...

The best of Gia is that the prices (not so low any more) are those, and the girls are doing exactly what written, if written BBBJ with CIM they will do it.

If I can find a problem is that Gia has always a staff of girls where anal is sometimes even completely absent! :( This for me is very bad.

In the other sites you often find clearly fake photos, but try with:

[url]http://www.flirt.com.ua/[/url]

There are hundreds of teens or older girls... of course all is a little bit naive but well working.

IT

[QUOTE=Black Bltjones]Alright. This place sure has loads of info. I'm in a state of info overkill right now. So let me sum up what I've learned reading all these posts - if I've got something wrong - don't hesitate to correct me or give me even better suggestions. I want this to be a good trip.

My plans when visiting Kiev for four days next week are as follows:

A: Get a chic from Gia to visit my hotel.
B: Get a Rakuena Massage done by three girls.
C: Visit River Palace and see what happens.

My thoughts.
A: Gia looks fine, but the models isn't exactly world class. I'll have a good time I'm sure, but maybe there's a place with women more stylish? A place where they show you real fotos. I don't speak a word Russian btw.

B: Three girls at a time. That sounds fucking awesome. Sad they don't fuck. Because they don't, right? Not even a little blowjob? Not a chance to make a date with them later in the evening? Can that be true? It sounds so unreal, but hey, what do I know.

C: I've been to Boarhouse in Moscow and that was a bit hectic. I would actually prefer af less crowded place and maybe even a place where you can do the fucking in booths, rooms or whatever available. A club, a stripjoint, maybe a topscale brothel (to they exist in Kiev?).

D: What did I miss?

Hope you have some comments or/and some good recommendations. I like slim not skinny girls and I like them titties to do some serious bouncing. So pls. no A or B for me.

All the best

Black Bltjones[/QUOTE]

Of course it depends if you speak some Russian, if you can read some, or even on which your tastes are…

In my opinion I would not go to Massage, bit concentrate in introducing fresh and hard meat in teens! Even with some CIM and maybe anal.

Of course RP is a choice, but there are lots of discos or agencies (see the Post daily in Kiev), most of them will provide a girl in your description for 300 USD/night.

There are also lot of internet sites, not like in Moscow, but… The matter is that all is more “naïve” than in Russia.

Of course you can look even in your hotel or discretely ask the security, they will always find a girl. A Disco-Brothel was Resttown but at the moment I do not know the situation and would be delighted if some reader write something.

Getting more closely:
A) Might that most of the GIA girls do BBBJ with CIM some even COF… although not so common.
B) If you are interested in Anal might that in my opinion it’s less common than in Russia.

C) On different internet chit chat sites I might find with use of translators and seeking English speaking five teen girls ready to fuck a night between 250 and 350 (all usually under 20).

D) In my opinion you miss normal bars, discos, etc, but this depends on how long you are staying, and how long you like “public preliminaries”.

I usually have lack of time and go directly to the pussy! ;)

If somebody can offer infos on Resttown (still open?) is welcome! Please mind also the adress!

It is or was (Resttown) just a disco bar wher you could pick up a girl get her in a room for one hour or two and get back to the bar to chose another...

IT

[QUOTE=Cool Morris]Anyone ever consider bringing back one of these vixens back to USA for a quid pro quo arrangement, you give me sex and in 2 or 3 years you get a green card?

If I was interested in such an arrangment, how can I go about looking for ladies in Ukraine? Any tips please?[/QUOTE]Cool M - In my 6 years in UKR I have seen the attitudes of the ladies change immensely! They have been 'scammed' by guys so many times, from guys just writing and never traveling ALL THE WAY to meeting, come to USA on a K1 Visa - HAVE A LIVE IN SEX - MAID - COOK - for 90 days... then send her home without marriage!

They are wise to ALL this - the negative stories travel fast - and THEY won't just fall for 'any offer'!

But I am certain that YOU can find a willing one, but IT might take an awful lot of 'writing' - 'searching' - and rejection!

I think it might be worth a try to advertise in local language newspapers in the smaller cities, find a fresh - never before abused - young one!

Good Luck!

ps - You realize your talking marriage (if ya want them to be able to stay longer than 90 days)?

Sometimes I’m astonished by EE teens, particularly the Russian and Ukrainian.

I was just spending 4 hours in three days (four hours totally) in [url]http://www.flirt.com.ua/[/url] a dating Ukrainian site…

In Four hours I got the phone of eleven pros and two normal girls, all under 24, most under 20.

Seems incredible… the average for pros is 250/350. I found even a slim beautiful blondinka doing Anal and BBBJ (hopefully with CIM) for 250!

I’m very fortunate, In two weeks I’ll be there!

Happy hunting in the net.


IT

IT,

Consider you should be able to get an '8' off the web for $60/hr how much of a deal is $250 to $350 for a night? A deal for her I think.

[QUOTE=Cruiser D]IT,

Consider you should be able to get an '8' off the web for $60/hr how much of a deal is $250 to $350 for a night? A deal for her I think.[/QUOTE]


Mhhh in Kiev I think you get a normal girl for 60, in my opinion a real 8 is around 80 then of course 250/350 are the asked prices, you have to contract a little...

In my opinion 250 a night (I mean real nights, 12 or 14 hours) for a real teen 18/19, even a 6 ore 7 a little bit naive and so is not toomuch.

IT

[QUOTE=Lifesavour]Cool M - In my 6 years in UKR I have seen the attitudes of the ladies change immensely! They have been 'scammed' by guys so many times, from guys just writing and never traveling ALL THE WAY to meeting, come to USA on a K1 Visa - HAVE A LIVE IN SEX - MAID - COOK - for 90 days... then send her home without marriage!

They are wise to ALL this - the negative stories travel fast - and THEY won't just fall for 'any offer'!

But I am certain that YOU can find a willing one, but IT might take an awful lot of 'writing' - 'searching' - and rejection!

I think it might be worth a try to advertise in local language newspapers in the smaller cities, find a fresh - never before abused - young one!

Good Luck!

ps - You realize your talking marriage (if ya want them to be able to stay longer than 90 days)?[/QUOTE]Thank you for the really great insight. It seems like it will be a challange, I was thinking of starting with some of the internets sites like bride.ru and maybe flirt.com.ua as mentioned in previous posts.

From a pragmatic/locig point of view, how willing are the UA vixens in getting into such Sponsored Weddings?

Thanks