Manila

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;3021268]Thanks for the pricing. Are you sure PL's search engine does not take into account your location, or did you use a VPN?

With effectively-legalised extortion on-the-rise over domestic arguments and non-consensual sex -- what precautions would you recommend with new contacts?

[URL]https://youtu.be/T89deQcVl2k?si=BX5YnKDpwpnM9-QW&t=1650[/URL] advises never to be alone in one's home with a female, even a maid.[/QUOTE]You can search PL by locations from individual buildings (eg Xavier Church) to Provinces. You can, or not, list your home location in your profile and also choose of you want your current location used. I used the dot com version, not the app and I'm asked trice when I first log in if I allow my location to be used by PL.

Simple. Don't do stupid shit. Take basic security measures for your person and valuables and don't piss people off or cause them to want revenge. Sure, we've all had bad dates but stories of things going seriously sideways always have more to them than what's immediately obvious. The odd minor scam is just the cost of doing business. I've never know a random innocent to be locked up or seriously shaken down just for being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

If that advice is followed, then there would be no mongering and hookups. At some point you have to take your chances and bring her back to your room. Unless you only want to fuck in public places. 😀.

Remember, thousands of girls and guys are ficking everyday without incident. Be aware but not paranoid about the horror stories.

Enjoy. G.

I should have added, it's one thing that irks me about PL: the thousands of girls who have no location listed. My first question to them is always where are they? Again 90% seem to be in Manila somewhere.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3021329]Be aware but not paranoid about the horror stories.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I should have added the one exception: there is NEVER a good reason to have a kid in your hotel room, regardless of if mom is there or not. If you want to, take mom and kid to lunch but they don't come back to your room. She takes the kid home then comes back alone.

No, not just for a while. No, you can't watch the kid while she ducks out to 7/11. No, they can't rest because there is no baby sitter at home. No means no. Never.

It may all be above board but the one time that it's not, it will go bad. Really bad. Think straight to jail, bad.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3021342]I should have added the one exception: there is NEVER a good reason to have a kid in your hotel room, regardless of if mom is there or not. If you want to, take mom and kid to lunch but they don't come back to your room. She takes the kid home then comes back alone.

No, not just for a while. No, you can't watch the kid while she ducks out to 7/11. No, they can't rest because there is no baby sitter at home. No means no. Never.

It may all be above board but the one time that it's not, it will go bad. Really bad. Think straight to jail, bad.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Absolutely correct!

Also if she looks too young and there is no front desk to check the ID for the age, or you live in a rental, make sure you take pic of the ID, in case is fake, so you can prove that you were the one that was tricked, and also she will not incriminate herself for document forgery by trying to extort you.

[QUOTE=Goferring]Take basic security measures for your person and valuables and don't piss people off. Sure, we've all had bad dates but stories of things going seriously sideways always have more to them than what's immediately obvious. I've never known a random innocent to be locked up or seriously shaken down just for being at the wrong place at the wrong time.[/QUOTE]Wise words! Best not to become paranoid but the PI does pass some Machiavellian laws, which are only enforced on the rich.

Remember American-Filipino Lewis Yakich, of the Lewis Grand hotel, who was building rooms via 3D printing in AC? He went missing in 2015 and was never found. His Filipino relatives were suspected but the PNP were typically-inactive, or paid-off with Lewis's stolen lucre. Never disclose one's wealth, or appear to be worth more dead than alive!

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;3021493]Remember American-Filipino Lewis Yakich, of the Lewis Grand hotel, who was building rooms via 3D printing in AC? He went missing in 2015 and was never found. His Filipino relatives were suspected but the PNP were typically-inactive, or paid-off with Lewis's stolen lucre. Never disclose one's wealth, or appear to be worth more dead than alive![/QUOTE]Add in 99.99% of the minor drug busts where John was found with 0. 002 grams. Of course, the arguments with his wife's family or business partners are just a coincidence.

Enjoy. G.

Gents. Please welcome this newcomer. Not to the hobby or this site. I'm a senior member and have paid my dues. But I've never been to Philippines and I'm going next month.

I see a lot of conversation on this hotel vs that one. Usually when I monger I like girls to stay overnight, and I prefer Airbnb instead of hotel so I have more space, a living room, etc and don't need to walk past the front desk with a different girl each night.

Is there any reason I should not get an Airbnb apartment in Manila when I go? Anyone done it and have good experiences?

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;3022009]I see a lot of conversation on this hotel vs that one. Usually when I monger I like girls to stay overnight, and I prefer Airbnb instead of hotel so I have more space, a living room, etc and don't need to walk past the front desk with a different girl each night.

Is there any reason I should not get an Airbnb apartment in Manila when I go? Anyone done it and have good experiences?[/QUOTE]Welcome to the PI, good sir.

Most airbnb in Manila are in a Residence (or condominium, which has a different meaning than in the US). Choices are typically a hotel or a condo. A condo / residence is a high-rise building, which might look like a hotel or apartments, but is not. It has, say, hundreds of units, each with different owners. The owners themselves usually rent out the unit on airbnb (sometimes the owner lives in another country, and has a local 'host' who is the unit caretaker and oversees the rentals). All of the units are nearly identical. In most of these condos, the front desk does not act like a hotel clerk. The units are not usually available by walk-in (there are some exceptions). The front desk staff is not there to help you as a renter with any problems, you probably have to contact the owner / host thru airbnb.

Hence, the 'walk of shame' you mention is a bit different. Most hotels and condos have security guards at the front door, who will insist your guest to register (or alternately at the front desk of a hotel). This involves the lass to sign into a registry book her name, your room number, and her phone number. She will have to hand over her valid ID to the guard, who will hold it until her departure. This is a time-honored practice in almost all places in the country, city and province.

Some hotels and residences will allow you to not come to the lobby or escort her in. You can stay in your room / unit and the front desk or guard will call your unit, and ask you if miss Monica can come up to your room. Same upon her departure, you probably don't need to escort her out, and the guard will call your room / unit to confirm with you that you are aware that Monica is leaving. Other hotels / condos might require you to come to the lobby and escort her up. Some hotels / condos don't have phones in the room / unit, so they can't call you, and this will necessitate you meeting the girl in the lobby (or bringing her in yourself), subjecting you to the walk of shame.

However, some fellas have reported that City Garden Grand hotel in Makati requires none of this. Its a nice hotel. Unescorted ladies can waltz right in, and come up to your room at will, departing when they want, without any interference.

Other regulars weigh in here.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;3022009]Gents. Please welcome this newcomer. Not to the hobby or this site. I'm a senior member and have paid my dues. But I've never been to Philippines and I'm going next month.

I see a lot of conversation on this hotel vs that one. Usually when I monger I like girls to stay overnight, and I prefer Airbnb instead of hotel so I have more space, a living room, etc and don't need to walk past the front desk with a different girl each night.

Is there any reason I should not get an Airbnb apartment in Manila when I go? Anyone done it and have good experiences?[/QUOTE]If is your first time than distance and safety comes to mind, if you're going to be someplace without a frontdesk.

If trying to avoid scrutiny when entering the building, you need to know that most Airbnbs in Manila will have a front desk that checks you when entering, but will not check anyone coming out after they murdered and robbed you. Of course I'm presenting you with the worst case scenario, and I always recommend to get a hotel in Angeles City for the first timers due to simplicity and safety (you can bring in 100 girls each day). Many hotels have multiple room suites if that's what you need.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;3022009]Is there any reason I should not get an Airbnb apartment in Manila when I go? Anyone done it and have good experiences?[/QUOTE]How long are you staying at each room? If weeks or months, then the long stay discounts that Air BnB offers may make it worth it. But check with forensic detail on fees, reviews and the stay conditions of both the owner and the building. Note the that these may be wildly different, eg one may not care but the other may not allow guests after 10 pm.

Personally, I find the rooms good but dealing with owners and Body Corps a major PITA. Most rooms are also available using the hotel booking apps, Agoda, Booking etc. I find them much easier to deal with and more customer vs owner centric.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2947349]An epic rant in how fucked up staying at Avida is. I thought a nice place, in a good location, impress the good girls. Played it safe booking double occupancy. WRONG!! No visitors allowed. None! Not only after 10 pm. Never! Only people included on the Guest Register are allowed. Forget any 11th hour hookups online. Ain't going to happen. Only one Guest Register. Can't add strays. Special rules for Airbnb.

I'm walking away from my booking and checking out tomorrow morning. Fuck Airbnb and fuck Avida.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3022036]All of the units are nearly identical.[/QUOTE]The floor plan, yes. But I've had wildly different fitouts within the same building. It's not uncommon to have investment properties very sparsely furnished and a part time resident's unit next door complete with washers, nice beds, high end electronics and available for $5 a night more.

As I said above, check the details.

Enjoy. G.

Thank you to those of you who responded.

I think you have convinced me. I will not be doing an Airbnb.

I suppose I should ask, can anybody recommend great girl friendly hotels?

Central, upscale 4 or 5 star, and I can walk in and out with girls no problem.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3022036] Some hotels and residences will allow you to not come to the lobby or escort her in. You can stay in your room / unit and the front desk or guard will call your unit, and ask you if miss Monica can come up to your room. Same upon her departure, you probably don't need to escort her out, and the guard will call your room / unit to confirm with you that you are aware that Monica is leaving. Other hotels / condos might require you to come to the lobby and escort her up. Some hotels / condos don't have phones in the room / unit, so they can't call you, and this will necessitate you meeting the girl in the lobby (or bringing her in yourself), subjecting you to the walk of shame.

However, some fellas have reported that City Garden Grand hotel in Makati requires none of this. Its a nice hotel. Unescorted ladies can waltz right in, and come up to your room at will, departing when they want, without any interference.

Other regulars weigh in here.[/QUOTE]You've pretty much covered it Westie. I generally stay at the other City Garden across the road and nearly every girl has told me there's no need to meet them downstairs. They know the 'drill' and do the formalities before knocking on your door.

As for the walk of shame. I couldn't give a hoot about it. If a foreign guy in his fifties is bringing a 20-something girl back to his room, everyone knows what we're up to anyway. Especially if it's a Pina Love girl who you might line up for days at a time. Why worry about sneaking her in or out every time when everyone knows what's going on anyway?

It's not a walk of shame. It's a walk of freedom that you'd never get in your home country.

Just my take on it _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3022146]As for the walk of shame. I couldn't give a hoot about it. If a foreign guy in his fifties is bringing a 20-something girl back to his room, everyone knows what we're up to anyway. Especially if it's a Pina Love girl who you might line up for days at a time. Why worry about sneaking her in or out every time when everyone knows what's going on anyway?[/QUOTE]For the OP (AmPi), we are discussing several hotels a block from the Makati / Burgos St streetwalkers and gogo bars. Every hotel and condo in the area, from cockroach-infested crappy, to high-quality, are generally revolving doors for the trade. Girls are going in / out 24 hours a day. Its only a walk of shame for you, and only if you let it be.

The other high-concentration area of similar hotels and condos is in Malate, near Robinson's Place mall and LA Cafe (now Midnight Haven).

And something worth considering. Most places require the girl to sign in (register) at the door or front desk, and surrender her ID. She gets it back upon departure. If you are not with her at departure, the hotel / condo will need to call you to confirm that you are OK with the girl leaving. This is a security protocol designed to protect you (in case she has drugged you and stolen your sh*t). Any hotel that doesn't adhere to this helps you avoid the walk of shame. But it also means that if the girl does something bad while in your room, then waltzes out the front door unhindered, #ya-fukt.

One way to increase your chances of avoiding the WOS is to tip the door security on your first day, and tell them to register inbound girls and send them up to your room where you will be waiting for them.

I see a lot of chatter around here about Pina Love.

But when I ask GPT, it says that Badoo is actually larger and somewhat younger in the Philippines. Pina has a better ratio of girls to guys but it's smaller.

I don't know. Kinda seems like Badoo might be better no?

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;3022176]I see a lot of chatter around here about Pina Love.

But when I ask GPT, it says that Badoo is actually larger and somewhat younger in the Philippines. Pina has a better ratio of girls to guys but it's smaller.

I don't know. Kinda seems like Badoo might be better no?[/QUOTE]I use Date In Asia because I'm cheap when it comes to paid subscriptions, but you'll have to filter thru tones of fakes and LBs.

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