Jakarta

[QUOTE=LetMeIn6969;3018871]My last trip, I tried Badoo and met a civi. Here are the Pros and Cons from my perspective:

Pros:

1. Truly GFE, she let me did everything I ever dreamed of even ATM (not the cash dispensing kind =)).

2. She can communicate in English.

3. She's like my local tour guide, we went to Bali and it was great going and fucking around whenever I feel like it.

Cons:

1. Only one pussy for the entire trip.

2. It's more expensive, I'm now paying for her college tuition.

3. I'm catching feeling when I know I shouldn't.

This is my personal experience venturing into the civi world. If you don't have a responsibility back home or a heart, I wouldn't recommend it due to feelings and such. My next trip, I think I'll stick to P4P.[/QUOTE]

I think you mean "If you do have responsibility ... "

Sounds like you've gotten suckered into something you don't want, and perhaps you are not used to things like this yet. With some experience, it is fairly easily manageable, and no need to stick to only p4p if you have other options too (not all of us do, at least as far as banging the type of girls we want to bang, so enjoy it while you can).

Number one rule IMO is to be clear about things. If I sense anyone is starting to like me more than is good for them, I remind them that I'm just a short-term tourist, leaving soon. I don't enjoy clingy/low confidence girls, or girls who don't have many other options, so reminding the girl of me being just a short-term tourist soon leaving seems to quickly reset things. They usually become a bit cold after that, but it's better for them.

Rule number two is to not meet too often. Twice a week is fine, though obviously you have to make exceptions if it's someone you want to travel with for some days. More than that and things more easily become weird. If they want to meet again e.g., the next day, I will say I'm busy, even if I'm not and I myself would maybe also have liked to meet them (takes care of my feelings also).

YMMV, but those two rules keep things pretty good both for them and me, and lets me enjoy a lot of things that I don't want to do with p4p girls (cinema, walk in the park, going to local non-tourist places/restaurants, sleeping over, maybe even travel somewhere, etc.).

Paying for anything, except things I've invited her too, or joined her in doing, doesn't even come up.

I'm trying to figure out what zippos was talking about? There were no intros / lead-ins to his private message post.

One of the rare mistakes I've ever seen zippos make.

What is he talkin about? 30-minute sessions. Heading to the next massage? Popping off 7 drinks?

Some sort of a shopping mall, eh?

Its my experience hotties are never on the sofa. They are always on the move. More likely they are in the dressing room catching their breath, hiding out. They understand they are beautiful fish.

More importantly they understand on the other side of that locker-room door there are sharks.

It was this past Sunday night. I saw her with an asian client. I don't remember how I got her name, that night, but I got it. I managed to find a mamasan that claimed it was one of her girls.

I told her I wanted to book her for the next night, Monday night. It was a very informal booking by me with no exchange of whattsapp numbers.

I'm going to have to shoot this off as part 1. Classic term 3. And finish part 2 later.

[QUOTE=LetMeIn6969;3018871]My last trip, I tried Badoo and met a civi. Here are the Pros and Cons from my perspective:

2. It's more expensive, I'm now paying for her college tuition.

P4P.[/QUOTE]You got yourself a very horny college student. I had one of those, who has now moved on to being a horny married woman, not married to me, but we still have the odd fling! You won't be the only one sponsoring her. Mine tried all sorts of excuses to get money out of me, only time I sent her a few dollars was during COVID when I knew things were hard. But her soon to be husband was sending her shit loads of cash cause suddenly she was buying a house, a new car etc. Etc. Etc. Don't be that sucker.

Was planning to spend one week in Jakarta, but ended up doing two. After reading over this forum and having most of my questions answered, I decided to venture out a bit and get some more data on a few things. I'm still pretty new to all this, so made some mistakes and learned some lessons along the way. The entire first week, I strictly stayed with the online girls and deliveries while I wasn't out doing some touristy things. The entire second week was only going to hotels that everyone mentions here. I'm in complete agreement that Classic should get its own thread, as it's mentioned so much. This is just my two cents and personal experience, use it to gauge how yours might be.

I kept two hotel rooms, one for my regular day to day and the other for naughty stuff. The nice hotel was around Prime Asia hotel where I kept all of my things and money, my naughty one was near Travel Hotel where I ONLY kept bottles of water, snacks, and some condoms. I came to find out that this was a good idea later, and I'm sure most here know why. I'll mention why later in my report.

My specs: Very early 30's, 5' 9" (approx. 176 cm), workout (approx. 17% body fat), American, mixed white/black/hispanic.

Dating apps:

Tinder / Bumble / Badoo - Only met regular girls for some nice dates on all three platforms. Girls were anywhere from 20 41. All from no kids up to 3 kids, dated about 1 girl per day but never did any repeat dates. Even had one feminist (it was strictly stated in her bio along with other women's empowerment verbiage), which surprised me to see that here. My goal was to see how civvies are here, and just to check out the dating environment. Got 5+ matches a day on all platforms, women were all pleasant and our dates end at a caf or bar. I'the pay the dinner and the girls would usually pay for the caf/ bar drinks. Be aware that many of these girls have curfews, unless they live alone. A big thing in Indonesia is that cheating occurs a lot, both men and women, so one common thing every girl mentioned is that they don't want to be with a man who cheats and are trying to avoid that by dating a foreigner.

Tantan - lots of freelancers and pimps (referred to as 'bos' Pretty straight forward, but always do a video call on WhatsApp. Most of the photos are obviously filtered, but can find the occasional diamond. Once you find a good one, ask her for pics and contact info of her friends who do the same thing. Obviously, never send money online, always a scam. Here's where it helps to have more than one hotel room, things were going so well getting girls to my room that I got lazy and stopped doing my usual checks. One of the girls looked nothing at all like her pic (I didn't know I was talking to her bos or agency), asked her to leave, she did not argue or cause drama. Her bos messaged me, insulting me and telling me I was going to 'get it', sent pics and videos of guns and police stating they were going to come get me. I bolted and stayed away from that room for a couple of days, blocked that guy's number and another number he tried calling me from. Now I could no longer use that WhatsApp phone number for setting stuff up, as I think there's a community of these men who share info and put phone numbers in some repository to check and see if 'we' are legit or have been known to cause issues.

Overall, had a good experience with civvies, did not hook up with any of them nor was that my intention since I was just feeling things out. Also, didn't want to pursue a second date with any of them as I didn't want to lead them on or get attached. No civvies in Tantan based on my use of the platform.

Online:

Massage Republic - Tried a few girls from here, cost is not worth it and one of them was really an agency or bos. I'the avoid altogether, there's way too many girls available throughout the city.

Platforms:

MiChat - Great platform. Was able to set the app up once I got an Indonesian number at the airport. Sourced 90% of my online girls here, most were freelancers and very very few were bos or agency. Some girls asked me to meet them at their hotel rooms, was a bit reluctant since it could be a setup but every time I went, nothing bad happened and the girl looked about 90% like her pics. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't be careful or weary, if your instincts tell you otherwise then just avoid.

X - There's a lot of girls who advertise on X. These usually ask you to pay online via money transfer, but based on research and one girl, this is actually how many Indos actually source girls thru this platform. Since these men have Indo bank accounts and the local money transfer app. Apparently, you can transfer money to someone thru a convenience store if you're a foreigner. I met one of the X girls, spoke to her via TG and she was ok with me paying cash for meeting at her hotel. She explained that you can also transfer money to these girls at a convenience store via one of their systems, for those bules (foreigners) that obviously aren't normally able to do this. Search #jakpus #jaksel #expojajkarta #boJakarta #availjakarta, there's several more hashtags but easy to find once you use one of these.

WeChat - Tried a couple other girls here. Wasn't too bad either. Had no negative experiences.

Paid anywhere from 400 k 600 k for all interactions, tips all based on performance and what the initial negotiated price was. But never more than 600 k overall altogether.

Lokasari:

I only went here late at night. I'll have to try during the day on my next trip of exploration. Met a bos name Andi, who sourced girls to me. Every time I asked him for one girl, he'the bring at least two that I could choose from. Be careful though, as some of these girls look underage, I had to ask them and wanted to see some ID to verify. Also, they were too keen on doing everything raw which I strongly objected to. Don't bother with threesomes, as they'll be lackluster. I think someone else already spoke about this in the board, but it tells you the mindset here of some people here in Jakarta (won't say all). But here's my story, asked for one girl and he brings me two and offers a threesome, I agree, they offer no condom, I disagree and they're ok with it. I ask them if they're bi or will kiss each other (I want a true threesome experience which continues to elude me), they say yes but that all changes once on the bed. I want to change between girls with my condom on, but they want me to change condoms before I enter any of them. Then they state that if I go raw then I can do them both no problem. I actually stopped to explain to them how it wouldn't be any different to change condoms if I go raw, took a while to convince them. After that brief physics lesson, I just wanted to finish and be on my way. Rest of the girls he brought me were ok, got the job done. Usual cost is about 400 k, depending on negotiation skills.

Kotah Inda:

I'm surprised this place doesn't get mentioned more on here. There's so many clubs and bars with loads of beautiful women of all shapes and sizes. I'the say I was the only non-Asian in that area, I know this because I checked out every bar there. I went in, did a full walk-thru then sat down and stayed for the duration of exactly one beer before repeating the same thing at the next place. The only drawbacks I'the say was that my eyes burned a lot from all the smoke (I don't smoke at all), so this made it uncomfortable till my eyes stopped stinging. These places need a lot of ventilation. Only took one girl in that area, it was at Starmoon, think the price was about 400 k. I should mention that at no point did I feel like I was in danger or that anything bad was going to happen to me while I was in this area.

Clubs / Bars:

H Club - Interesting, more for groups and the usual table places that many high end Asian clubs tend to have. Usually trance, techno, EDM.

Zoo - Not too far away, plays mostly hip hop music. Good vibe and enjoyed the place. There were a couple clubs right next to it, I don't remember the names but they were ok.

CJ's - So many girls here. Very pretty and young, all freelancers. Bar was actually nice and bartenders were very friendly. Cost is 1 mil 2 mil, depending on your negotiation skills and how late in the night it is. Only took 1 girl from here for 1. 5 mil, she was ok but I should've said no and gotten a far better girl. Alcohol makes it hard to think with the big head LOL.

Went to a few other clubs, but was too drunk to remember their names. There was even one that was nearly pitch black (named Kode, I think). Didn't hook up with any civvies or picked up any girls at the clubs except for CJs. Was just there to drink, explore, and enjoy the vibe.

Hotels:

Travel - Interesting story with this one. I was going to my 'extra' hotel room from a tourist outing, my cab driver spoke perfect English and had a great conversation all the way to my hotel. He saw that travel was near my hotel and asked me if I wanted to go grab a beer with him at Travel since I had never been there before. We then walked to Travel and started drinking while we talked, I got one girl and he got two LOL. I then saw some other girls coming out for shift change, and they were far better looking than the girl I allowed to sit with me (the mama just brought her over). I just bit the bullet and went with her to the room, she was average but should've said no when I saw better. The Taxi driver took those two to the room, apparently he has a side business where he takes other Asians (Japanese, Chinese, Korean) to these establishments, he's also married with kids which I then realized that cheating in Indonesia is a big thing.

1001 - Girls were gorgeous. The non-indo girls looked terrible, definitely not worth the cost. I think those women are just there for the novelty of trying something else, the Indo girls looked leagues better. Some Asian guy took 4 girls with him, I got a quick glimpse at them but one of them was gorgeous, most def a 9 or 10.I hope he had a great time with all of them. I took one girl here and had a pretty good time, she was accommodating but didn't feel much energy between us.

Emporium - Girls were also very pretty, there are two tiers of girls here. In my personal and humble opinion, the lowered tiered girls looked prettier to me. They had stronger Asian features that I find attractive, as well as not looking as 'plastic' or 'enhanced'. More of the girl next door or cute grounded girl. With that being said, I went with the higher tiered girl LOL because that lineup was brought to me first.

Classic - It was said by someone else on this forum. The higher end places are for when you want a nice fancy steak dinner or food of choice, but this place is that burger or pizza joint that always delivers and never fails you that you've been going to for years since high school so you just build up a habit. I spent at least one or two sessions here every day my second week in Jakarta. Very rarely did I have a bad session. I'll say to avoid the club on the first floor, too much smoke and two girls came over and put my hand on their breasts to feel them up. I bought them each a shot, but the bartender snuck some empty shot glasses while I was distracted. When I saw this, I immediately asked for my bill and saw it was padded. Now I could easily make a scene and get it off my bill, but it was just an extra $10 and I'm a bule. So I just paid and went to the 3rd floor. Others have said to avoid this 1st floor club, but I wanted to get a glimpse to see what was in there. Between the 3rd and 5th floor, I think the girls on the 5th are far better. Every mediocre or subpar experience I had at classic was on the 3rd floor, and all my good experiences were on the 5th floor. Didn't try the threesome option, as I've yet to come across some girls that would really be into it. Also, I'd always come here around midnight or 1 am, so next time I'll go earlier to see the better spread of girls.

The hotels were great and I'll try some other spots on my next trip. I noticed that the first girl the mamas will bring you are usually not the most appealing. I learned after trial and error to always say no to the first single one, unless they bring you a few to choose from and one of them looks good to you. Otherwise, I'the just tell them what I wanted and would say no until I got a good one. Also, some girls would tell me their Javanese, Sundanese, or half. I started to notice a difference in how each of these types looked, but was interesting that they went out of their way to let me know themselves, as if I knew what they were talking about or cared about it. Maybe it's a big deal to other customers.

Overall:

I'd say many people are missing out on Jakarta, as a mongering destination. Also, at no point did I feel any racism or discrimination. At first I did have a hard time finding the girls here attractive, as many of them had square jawlines similar to men while men had more pointed jawlines. It took some more looking around and patience to finally start finding girls with softer and pointed jaw lines that looked more feminine. I was informed by locals that there are some red light areas where the locals tend to go for cheaper mongering west of Jakarta, it's a well known spot many men from the city go. On my next trip here I plan to hit up the spots around PIK and PIK2, especially the bars / clubs, not sure if any of the veterans here can speak more on these areas. Sorry for the long post, just remember to wrap up your eggplant and adjust whatever mongering system you have to the area. Thanks to everyone who DM'the me and answered all my questions from before.

So I get to classic last Monday at 5. A reasonable time, a little early, but ideal if you want a fresh pussy. I have become paranoid.

Of being a second customer.

So I see the mamasan that claimed the girl I wanted was hers on Sunday night. Sara was her name. But what transpired for the next 30-45 minutes.

Was a game of charades and diversion. They brought me several girls that claimed the same name. I stood my ground adamant about.

The girl I wanted. A girl I knew only by name, had forgotten what she looked like, only knew she was a hottie 8-9. I did not even know what sofa she sat?

(Although my experience is that hotties are always on the move; so should you be on the move; I was on the move Sunday night when I found her).

Then I somehow got passed off to another mamasan and I was now sitting at a table that was with the sofas to the right, inner as you enter.

She was into the game of diversion as well. I think I endured a couple of lineups with her. She kept telling me to wait, but would not tell me why?

(Certainly plausible that a hottie is given slack, allowed to arrive late) But I was sort of seeing how this was going nowhere or thought it was not.

I needed a beer and beer ladies here never look up for a hand in the air. What you do is you go to the source, the bar. But before I left I texted this.

Last mamasan "I think you are hiding ladies from me".

Afterr grabbing the beer I come back to a table near the cashier cage, air conditioner, locker room. This is my favorite location for a table.

So this mamasan I texted to must have been tracking me, that my text stung her a bit; which was my intention. It paid off in spades as she shows up.

With the hottie. I immediately confirmed that it was her I asked her name the previous night. Part two.

My apologies I'm having problems with the internet. So as we are "interviewing" I come to realize I am talking to countess / el vira.

She had these canines that ended in points (like a vampire). And they were abnormally long and at the same time sexy as all hell.

At this point I had a conversation piece I always try to find. After all, you make therm laugh, they have invited you through their front door.

But I had to be tactful. I had to be funny and loving. Not insulting or teasing. I guess, I don't know, that she was a little bit self conscious about it.

So I start out with, "I like your teeth, you arent going to hurt me in the room are you"? So she now knows I want her. Second statement was way more effective.

"So you sleep during the day and are afraid of the sun"?

We both erupted in laughter.

I thought things at this point were going well, or so I thought.

But on the way to the room she was a leader, not a follower. There was no hand-holding; in fact I had to pick up my hop just to stay with her.

Inm the room I saw her index finger invert towards her mouth as if going for the, I have a canker sore routine (a famous one, the smart ones will take pictures.

Of canker sores off the internet, to get outy of DFK).

She relented though, which surprised me. An abrupt turn she took into a GFE.

The cherry on the GFE was she started madura-ing me.

It was incredible; whether it was on purpose, spasms, is inmaterial. It was the'Heaven. Damn Heaven.

It has occured to me to "train" girls to tense up their vagina when I raise my fist in the air, timed with my outstroke.

A like and dislike added in the last 24 hours.

Like: I'm now into everything vampire.

Dislike: skirts with frills; high percentage of these girls have fat butts.

So this girl is the hottest I've seen in the last 5 days, she was their star pupil, and the mamasans acted like it.

Bummer of a night subtracts from hell of a night (the night of the vampire),. I decide I want to spend some money. I go to 1001. At 9:00 pm.

Wrong time. First sign of high class luxery was a 100,000 price tag on else double cigarettes. I was lost, first time here. I'm still lost.

There was a lounge on first floor. Was this karaoke? Was there a line up available here? Anybody score a girl here, skipped the karaoke, and went for a fuck?

There were girls here sitting in the lounge, first floor. I have no idea what the protocol is? In fact the second floor of 1001 is also labeled karaoke in their elevator.

Whatever.

On to the third floor. I kept looking outside later for a tour bus. Because at the spa third floor hella amount of Asians were arriving. I had to wait in line at the spa counter.

Hit with a 300,000 facilities charge / cover charge I started thinkin about the bail-out plan. Why go in? The dudes already inside along with the hella dudes I witnessed are going to take all the.

Hot lookin chicks. The pussies are also worn out. It was at this time I went into my interrogation mode. What time do the ladies arrive to work?

5 pm. Thanks I'll come back tomorrow.

I had some electronic work done at LTC Glodok. Every return trip I would go by club 36. I always wondered hmm "I wonder what is going on over there?

Well at 10 pm tonight I found out. I sat in the lounge for close to an hour before I noticed ladies sitting on high-backboard sofas toward the back of the lounge.

Turns out these ladies are 2. 2 juta just to sit and talk. Sit and talk? WTF. 10 million to fuck. And these ladies ID pay to feed my dog. Or conversely pay the dog to eat the lady.

Additionally, Segway, talking about Grogol, New Medika. I once, months ago was pals with a Taiwanese dude. I told him that I had heard good things about.

New Medika, but had never been myself. He goes there 8 ish and reports to me there was no ladies here. I went a few weeks later and noticed that if you don't walk thru the.

Lounge towards the very back you will not see the ladies. Never on this forum anywhere have I read a warning about New Medika, that the ladies are in the back!

New Medika has dancers on the second floor at 9 o'clock, but I've never been.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;3019173]

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The cherry on the GFE was she started madura-ing me.

It was incredible; whether it was on purpose, spasms, is inmaterial. It was the'Heaven. Damn Heaven.

It has occured to me to "train" girls to tense up their vagina when I raise my fist in the air, timed with my outstroke.
....[/QUOTE]The now defunct Bintang Mewar (Lokasari Plaza) was famous for having girls doing the clenching vagina thing. In Bintang Mewar they were MILFs but I remember a much younger girl doing it to me at another place also around Lokasari Plaza. It had to be experienced to be believed. The sheer strenght of the clencing! Those girls could clasp their pussy like their pussy was a hand. You sometimes had to tell them to stop as it became uncomfortable. Girls with that talent may have become rare nowadays. Still, why not ask the mamasans in Classic or Kota Intah? Though I think if those mamasans knew of such a girl, we would know too by now.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;3019148]Was planning to spend one week in Jakarta, but ended up doing two.[/QUOTE]Great report! Well done for all the detail.

I have a question. I follow the Classic account on Instagram, and I see two Classics: Bunker Classic and Classic. Are they both the same thing, or does Bunker refer to the first floor and not the third?

I post facts. I went there Saturday at 8:00 pm. I know a ton of stuff and have posted about most. I just do not do massage BS or the expensive places so never comment about those.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;3019238]Additionally, Segway, talking about Grogol, New Medika. I once, months ago was pals with a Taiwanese dude. I told him that I had heard good things about.

New Medika, but had never been myself. He goes there 8 ish and reports to me there was no ladies here. I went a few weeks later and noticed that if you don't walk thru the.

Lounge towards the very back you will not see the ladies. Never on this forum anywhere have I read a warning about New Medika, that the ladies are in the back!

New Medika has dancers on the second floor at 9 o'clock, but I've never been.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2935754]New Medika 400 k 35 girls.

Next street over closer to the hospital. Two entrances. One entrance across from Indramaret. The second on the back side which has the girls. It was two rooms connected with a hallway. Mamasan approaches me and I tell her what I want. She shows me the 2 girls closest to us. They were ok. I might have taken one but I said no because I am pissed off on how they just grab the first girl rather than what I asked for. She then yells out I want thin with big boobs which of course makes them shy. I walk away and look down the rows of girls. I see 2 with big boobs. Not sure if skinny or not. They are hiding form me. I make eye contact but they are shy now from the big mouth mamasan or just not interested. Wonderful damn start. I walk into the far room and sit down for 15 minutes to watch a few girls walk by. They show no interest and no mamasans come to talk to me so I leave.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Medellin65;3019410]I have a question. I follow the Classic account on Instagram, and I see two Classics: Bunker Classic and Classic. Are they both the same thing, or does Bunker refer to the first floor and not the third?[/QUOTE]Been posted a million times. Do not go to the ground floor club. Everywhere else is good.

There are several clubs and one spa located inside the Classic Hotel building.


[B]Classic Bunker[/B]

This is on the ground floor. (or 1st floor for the Yankees). It is immediately to the right as you enter Classic Hotel from the street through the glass sliding doors. You will walk by it from the outside on the right as soon as you go up the 2 or 3 steps onto the red tile from the brick parking area. You will see glass windows, but they are always blacked out with black pull down shades. You will also see the back of the couches against the windows from the outside. The sign in front of Bunker will say "Classic Club" and it is a trophy like logo with a globe on the top with the words "Classic Club. " But everyone calls it Bunker. Prices are 410 K and 600 K. There are less pushy mamasans here. Number of ladies is smaller. The main area for ladies is in the far back (completely opposite from the stage and the runway by the stage) and there are several rows of theater style couches with a slight elevation. There is also a row of couches along the wall, behind the bar to the left if you immediately walk in and head to the theater couches in the back. In days gone by in past years, there were another set of ladies on those couches. But I haven't seen ladies sit on those couches in a while. Bunker doesn't open till 6. And it really doesn't get going until at least 8 or 9.

[B]Classic Terminal 2[/B]

This is where everyone in this thread mostly goes and posts about. It is on the second floor (3rd for the Yanks) and is also referred to as Classic 2 or Terminal 2, or T2 . Price is 365 K for 1, 500 K for 2. It has the most ladies and the widest selection and pushy mamasans. Not sure of the exact opening time. I think either 1 or 3. I've never been before 3.

[B]Classic Terminal 5[/B]

This is on the fifth floor. Interestingly, no one ever quotes a different floor for this establishment. It's always the 5th floor. It has two sections of stadium style couches of 4-5 rows. One is immediately to the left as you enter and then there is another set of couches on the far side of the club past the stage on your left. Terminal 5 took the longest to re-open after Covid and it only re-opened around this time last year. Same basic price and setup as T2. However. T5, like Bunker, doesn't open till 6.

There is also a spa in the basement, but I never go there.

I took this picture of the all the various establishments available in Classic Hotel the last time I was in town. (Although thinking about this some more, I think someone else may have posted a similar image previously as well. But I am sure it is buried back several hundred pages by now.) It is posted by the elevators in the back to get to T5.

It is unfortunate there is not a way to pin this image to the top of the thread.

[QUOTE=Medellin65;3019410]I have a question. I follow the Classic account on Instagram, and I see two Classics: Bunker Classic and Classic. Are they both the same thing, or does Bunker refer to the first floor and not the third?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3019455]Been posted a million times. Do not go to the ground floor club. Everywhere else is good.[/QUOTE]With due respect, beg to differ with this suggestion, as I personally have had nice time with a young pretty gal at the ground floor club. I also noticed that mamasans are reasonably less aggressive there. Yes it is true that prices are higher than T2 however rooms are nicely decorated and cleaner. My two cents.

Classic is one of the best places for anyone to go and have some nice time in Jakarta. I prefer Classic over The Travel. I am sure there are many who might like or prefer Travel over Classic. To each their own. Try different venues and options available. One shall find suitable joints that meets their individual requirements. Happy punting.

Cheers.

Di.