FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2281427]In California, I can get 200 $ for 30 min or 300 $ for 1 HR for a girl, look is around 7, 8 sometime a 10. GFE, BBJ, DFK, FIV, FIA, etc. The site is somewhat private, the girl know we review them on the site, so there is no upsell and no scam. The review include price and services. What we read in the review is what we get.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2281897]Maybe I'm getting old, I can fuck once a day. More than that, it is not fun. I like the idea of getting multiple BBJ in one day. [/QUOTE]Dude, it seems like you've already had pretty good deals going for you in CA. I mean $300 for 1 hour GFE with a 7 or above. You're not kidding, are you? Wow, GFE with BBBJ, DFK, FIV for only $300 in a sex prison. You cannot be serious! These ladies are not from any agency. Right? They're independents. Correct? How can one get this kind of deal in CA?

Since you're a newbie, you go to FKK for reasons of novelty, variety, anonymity, and above all legality. However, strictly from a cost standpoint, you need to fuck more than once per day to justify the cost of your trip. You're lucky in the sense that you're on a business trip that already covers the cost of your flight, hotel, and transportation. Otherwise, your trip will probably end up costing more than what you've been luckily paying at home, especially when you said you can only fuck once a day.

For the sake of argument, say you want to fly to Germany on your own just for FKK as so many international mongers do every year. You better stay at 1 club and go with 3 chic's a day to average down the price to justify the cost comparable to what you have been getting at home already.

Let's look at it this way. Flying from USA West coast probably cost $800 round trip on average. Assuming you attend one club per day, your spending per day would end up conservatively like:

60 (entry) + 200 (2 times with 1 hour each w / o any extra) + 60 hotel + 40 car rental & gas = 360 Euros.

Converting that to dollar at today exchange rate, 360 * 1. 14 = $410/ day. That doesn't include any extra that you may want to do. When you take the airfare into account, say you stay for 4 days, that's another $800/4 = $200/ day. Your total would add up to $(410 + 200) = $610/ day which is more than what you'd pay for 2 in CA.

My point is that if you can get a GFE from a 7 or above with only $300 at home in the USA, keep that going. For any older monger who can only fuck once or twice a day, flying across a continent to Germany strictly for FKK clubs probably end up costing you more. (I'm NOT talking about those living in the neighboring countries flying Ryan Air to Germany.) I have not even mentioned that you use up your vacation days that you may otherwise spend on something else. Make sure to do some cost and benefit analysis before you make the trip especially if you're on a tight budget.

[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2282171]Anybody know the name of the German blonde girl from Munich? I did a room with her but don't remember her name. She sits by the bar closer to the eating area. She also does anal. She told me she only comes to Sharks on the weekends and is back in Munich for the rest of the week.[/QUOTE]Sandra with marks on arms and legs, small tits, blond to shoulders, very white skin, few tattoos, 1 on ankle, 1 below tits, was from around Munich, but after she lived not too far from Sharks.

[QUOTE=GothFkk;2282096]Is Dora A. K. A, Asian hunters, mid-20's, tall blonde, saggy tits, Ro, finally come back Sharks? I'm a bit confused that someone tells me, Dora is seen at Oase?

Guys, any ideas?[/QUOTE]Yes Dora was seen in sharks those days.

But has another name now.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2282332]Yes Dora was seen in sharks those days.

But has another name now.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot! I was undecided between Oase and Sharks. BTW You know What name is she having at the moment? And around where can I find her, Fish tank as she used to have seat?

I've got reason to try Sharks again! Hope she's still beauty.

[QUOTE=MoneySign;2282250]Dude, it seems like you've already had pretty good deals going for you in CA. I mean $300 for 1 hour GFE with a 7 or above. You're not kidding, are you? Wow, GFE with BBBJ, DFK, FIV for only $300 in a sex prison. You cannot be serious! These ladies are not from any agency. Right? They're independents. Correct? How can one get this kind of deal in CA?...................[/QUOTE]I must move to CA. If I can get 1 hour GFE with a 7 or above for $300 and have the option of many such babes then I won't bother to go to FKKs. I pay $300 an hour in Florida but consistently for 5's and occasionally, if I'm lucky, a 6, and GFE is iffy.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2282467]I must move to CA. If I can get 1 hour GFE with a 7 or above for $300 and have the option of many such babes then I won't bother to go to FKKs. I pay $300 an hour in Florida but consistently for 5's and occasionally, if I'm lucky, a 6, and GFE is iffy.[/QUOTE]That used to be available in both nor and so cal. But they shut down the Nor cal site may years ago. The So cal site is still up. Who know how long this situation will last. But the cost of living in Cali is a lot more expensive than most other state. I still consider 300 buck to be expensive. Because I can drive to Tijuana for 125 buck. But the hotel cost and time kind of not make it worth it. I only go to Tijuana to do the over night with an escort for 300/8 hours, BBJ, DFK, some will do CIM at no cost. 400 buck /8 hrs for a really hot one. If you guy do go there don't be a asshole by over paying with tip. That is what cost the price to go up for everyone. Dump asses tipping the girl after they pay 300 bucks.

I guess I just want a FKK experiment because it is different. My company pay a 2000 plane ticket and give me another free ticket to Germany. But I have to pay for my own hotel. So I book a youth hostel for 35 buck. FKK and RLD is on my to do list that I will cross out.

If you visit so cal area a lot. PM me and I will give you the info. Search HX with various key word like escort, hooker etc. Will bring you to the site. Most girl will not see newbie because you have no review. Yes the girl will review you as to if you are safe to see or not. For newbie, you got to know some one who is an establish member with lot of review contacting the girl for you. Because some girl block all newbie. There is a few thing you can do to let the girl know for sure that you are not LE. Just do what a cop will never do. Like take your pant off and start to grope the girl as soon as the door close. They will feel a lot more comfortable. There is a few agency, I stay away because the price are too high. Most are independent. Again, I don't know how long this site will last in Cali until they shut it down.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2282332]Yes Dora was seen in sharks those days. But has another name now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GothFkk;2282438]BTW You know What name is she having at the moment? And around where can I find her, Fish tank as she used to have seat?[/QUOTE]Bea is her name. You can find her near the Fish tank.

In my early FKK life I spent a lot of time at Artemis & throughly enjoyed myself however in the last year all my visits (other than one visit to Oase) have been to Sharks.

I do miss the numerous fake boobs, the better layout of Artemis and most of all I miss the the Kinos. However Sharks has a cheaper entrance fee, cheaper girls prices & has a huge selection of girls, if it had a Kino it would be superb.

However after another visit to Sharks next week I'm seriously tempted to try Palace or Mainhatten next month. What has stopped me in the past from going to Palace or Mainhatten is that so many people tell me these are expensive, tourist venues that are no where near the value for money that Sharks offers.

Would any experienced members who've attended all three venues be able to to give me a balanced "pro's & Con's" to the three Clubs please. Any info would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2282634]If you visit so cal area a lot. PM me and I will give you the info. Search HX with various key word like escort, hooker etc. Will bring you to the site. Most girl will not see newbie because you have no review. Yes the girl will review you as to if you are safe to see or not. For newbie, you got to know some one who is an establish member with lot of review contacting the girl for you. Because some girl block all newbie. There is a few thing you can do to let the girl know for sure that you are not LE. Just do what a cop will never do. Like take your pant off and start to grope the girl as soon as the door close. They will feel a lot more comfortable. There is a few agency, I stay away because the price are too high. Most are independent. Again, I don't know how long this site will last in Cali until they shut it down.[/QUOTE]Please do not bother us in this thread with internal American issues here that are based on a messed up and narrow-minded moral in "God's own country".

This is a page dealing with a completely different context and open-mindedness: the FKK Club Sharks in Germany in Europe.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2282658]Bea is her name. You can find her near the Fish tank.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I can't wait to go "fishing" for Bea next month.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2282854]Please do not bother us in this thread with internal American issues here that are based on a messed up and narrow-minded moral in "God's own country".

This is a page dealing with a completely different context and open-mindedness: the FKK Club Sharks in Germany in Europe.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I agree completely. We all know those Americans are all a bunch of Rappers*, drug-dealers and gang members (D or R). Let's build a Wall around Sharks and keep them all out, ja? Let's Make FKK Geil Again!

*I tried to use the correct word starting with "R", but this site keeps making it a "Code Word."

[QUOTE=Canary;2282815]In my early FKK life I spent a lot of time at Artemis & throughly enjoyed myself however in the last year all my visits (other than one visit to Oase) have been to Sharks.

I do miss the numerous fake boobs, the better layout of Artemis and most of all I miss the the Kinos. However Sharks has a cheaper entrance fee, cheaper girls prices & has a huge selection of girls, if it had a Kino it would be superb.

However after another visit to Sharks next week I'm seriously tempted to try Palace or Mainhatten next month. What has stopped me in the past from going to Palace or Mainhatten is that so many people tell me these are expensive, tourist venues that are no where near the value for money that Sharks offers.

Would any experienced members who've attended all three venues be able to to give me a balanced "pro's & Con's" to the three Clubs please. Any info would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Palace is mostly a club for fair visitors and sex tourist, no possibility to see the sky, no even a small garden. Mahattan belongs to the HA as finca and world and FKK Leipzig, it is city club therefor also full of tourist. A lot of Turkish around after 8 PM. Their LU are far smaller compare to Shark, I was a regular of both clubs but stopped to visit them, shark is far better at least for me.

[QUOTE=Canary;2282815]In my early FKK life I spent a lot of time at Artemis & throughly enjoyed myself however in the last year all my visits (other than one visit to Oase) have been to Sharks.

I do miss the numerous fake boobs, the better layout of Artemis and most of all I miss the the Kinos. However Sharks has a cheaper entrance fee, cheaper girls prices & has a huge selection of girls, if it had a Kino it would be superb.

However after another visit to Sharks next week I'm seriously tempted to try Palace or Mainhatten next month. What has stopped me in the past from going to Palace or Mainhatten is that so many people tell me these are expensive, tourist venues that are no where near the value for money that Sharks offers.

Would any experienced members who've attended all three venues be able to to give me a balanced "pro's & Con's" to the three Clubs please. Any info would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]So here's my 2 cents: Sharks offers better value for money for the reasons you've already set out. I too like Artemis and I love the layout and the Gym. I'm not a kino fan but know Artemis has 2. Sharks had one (downstairs on the right past the bar. But it's gone now. Pros and cons of Mainhattan and Palace. Pro's. Closer to centre of Frankfurt. Both about 20 euros from Hauptbahnof. I've never taken PT to either. Cheaper to return after a night though I stay at Maritim in Sharks which is reasonable and lower priced than FRA hotels and get the train back the next day. So about even. Less girls in both clubs. Palace girls are older and more akin to Artemis. But with some younger girls too. No outdoors. Massive con for me. Even when its cold I like to get fresh air. Sharks is smokey in the bar (con) but has great outdoors (Pro). Palace has no outdoors (con). Palace girls are more sharky than most places IMHO (con). In both Mainhattan and Sharks it is increasigly difficult. Though not impossible, to get BBBJ / great service for 50/30. I tend now to say I'll do 100/60 if both are included. Of course you can never guarantee what great service is. Some girls are just better than others, but mostly they'll try harder if they are getting more money. In Sharks a deal for 100/60 includes BBBJ with 99% of the girls. In Mainhattan and Palace you'll still have to persuade some that its a deal. They will want to tell you its 100/30 inc BBBJ. If you stand firm you'll get it for 100/60 but you need to have the negotiation. Which is boring and should be unnecessary but its more likely to happen in Palace and Mainhattan (con). The food in Mainhattan is rarely good in my experience and hit and miss in Palace. I usually think the food in Sharks is good (con). The rooms are better in Mainhattan than both clubs, again IMHO. Bigger, not as hot or cold (depending on time of year). Both Mainhattan and Palace have designated smoking areas (pro) though the one in Palace rarely has doors closed (not even sure if has doors!) but the one in Mainhattan definitely does and the glass doors are closed unless people are using them (big pro unless you are a smoker and don't care). Mainhattan and Palace have one professional massage room. Sharks now has 4 (con). Entry price in Palace is 75 e (con).

So given the above, why go to Mainhattan or Palace at all? Well, variety is the spice of life they say. It's good to try new venues. I tend to avoid Palace now. I don't dislike the club but the last 4 visits the LU was poor for me. This always evolves and could be great next week! But the overall impression of the club, sharky girls, older girls, no outdoors means I'm probably done with it. My last trip in November I actually spent 2 hours in Sharks with no rooms and took the train back to FRA and a cab to Mainhattan as I'the found a few peaches there and decided to return.

If I were you, I'the definitely try Mainhattan at least once. If you go early enough and it is poor, get the train to Darmstadt / Sharks. However I think both Palace and Mainhattan are more "nightclub" type clubs than Sharks (probably because the latter has such a good outdoor area compared to the other two). But it's worth trying other clubs. Finally, if you liked Artemis and Sharks you (like me) are likely to be a bigger fan of big clubs than of small clubs. Mainhattan is pretty small. Palace is smaller than Artemis and Sharks but feels dark and enclosed. I like the bright open spaces in Artemis outside the main lounge. I particularly like the downstairs areas by the pool / gym / small sports bar. I think you might initially think Mainhattan is very small. But the rooms are good, there are some good choices in the LU normally. So I'the give it a shot. Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=Canary;2282815]In my early FKK life I spent a lot of time at Artemis & throughly enjoyed myself however in the last year all my visits (other than one visit to Oase) have been to Sharks.

I do miss the numerous fake boobs, the better layout of Artemis and most of all I miss the the Kinos. However Sharks has a cheaper entrance fee, cheaper girls prices & has a huge selection of girls, if it had a Kino it would be superb.

However after another visit to Sharks next week I'm seriously tempted to try Palace or Mainhatten next month. What has stopped me in the past from going to Palace or Mainhatten is that so many people tell me these are expensive, tourist venues that are no where near the value for money that Sharks offers.

Would any experienced members who've attended all three venues be able to to give me a balanced "pro's & Con's" to the three Clubs please. Any info would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]No more kino at Sharks, kino at Palace and Mainhattan. Numerous girls at Sharks, but few are prettier at Palace or even at Mainhattan. According to girls who leave Sharks, cheap sex club now. A Hungarian girl explained me most of her rooms were for only 50 at Sharks, when she is a really passionate GFE with a pretty, sophisticated look, face, so of course she welcome me when I treat her like my GF for 1 h30 for 150 , because she is so generous and sensitive with me. Maybe she changed look or was very hidden under the bar, because she knew me from Sharks, when I never noticed her. I m sure she would have stayed at Sharks for my weekly business, but she is more interesting than any club.