[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2591876]Why would a woman in the top 5-10% of any FKK lineup do AO? Isn't that taking a lot of risk for not a lot of money?[/QUOTE]The risk that is on both side LOL!
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2591876]Why would a woman in the top 5-10% of any FKK lineup do AO? Isn't that taking a lot of risk for not a lot of money?[/QUOTE]The risk that is on both side LOL!
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2591876]Why would a woman in the top 5-10% of any FKK lineup do AO? Isn't that taking a lot of risk for not a lot of money?[/QUOTE]All the stunner I met in a FKK, were doing 0 extra just because those girls don't need to make their living. Only desperate or mentally disturbed girls will do AO with a monger but this is also true for the mongers. Health should be priority number 1 for everyone.
[QUOTE=Gino02;2591833]All good points Pess. I do a slightly different way though. Dietz usually has full lineup at 10 am when they open, only once I had to wait for Amira to show up at 2 pm (and theke Alice told me that ahead, it was just my decision to wait). Usually I arrive at Dietz at 10 am, see if I like anyone before even they have their first rooms, stick around if I find anyone to fuck multiple times, and if there's none for my taste, just drive over to whichever other FKK I want to spend the day. Good thing is usually entry fee is only 15 e before 11 am, so that's not really a big deal. And if I really enjoyed someone before, I either arrange with her when I'm going to be there again or simply call the club and theke honestly tells me if she's there or will be there when (unlike Sharks or Oase). So even on a short few days trip, checking Dietz for a new diamond isn't too much of a work. And from Dietz both Sharks and Oase are only 20-30 minutes drive.
Kinda funny and interesting was when one very old German guy paid my session with Amira to watch me creampie her in Dietz LOL. Very nice guy![/QUOTE]Diamond at Dietz, sorry but nothing is shining there. Terrible premises, terrible LU, but yes you can get AO but for me only beauty matters which is impossible to find there.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2592376]The risk that is on both side LOL![/QUOTE]Has anyone reported to have caught HIV from the AO clubs? I think there would be some statistics on this and how often are these AO girls tested and if they are on prophylaxis treatment or not?
[QUOTE=Mathias037;2591772]Hello,
I wonder if our German colleagues can predict the future development of FKK scene after German elections in September. As we know, we faced some additional limitations after last elections, when SPD with Manuela Schwesig took over the Family and social Ministry. Now looks that extreme left Greens will be strong. Can we expect any further limitations and prohibitions (in addition to Covid measures) in this case?
Regards.[/QUOTE]IIRC Aside from one policy position from Green party of better protection for prostitution from abuse prostitution is not on the agenda unlike the 2013 election.
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2592202]That's a positive spin. I remember one Sharks AO stunner, and indeed she was younger but sadly, I got the impression she did AO not because she felt comfortable and was less risk averse, but that she was beaten down and didn't care any more. Her pimp was even often there with her.
The AO girls that I know at Sharks now have the same demeanor and posture. Look for the girls who look like their spine is shaped like a question mark if you want to know who does AO.[/QUOTE]The girls we all played part and helped to beat her down! Some French self claim Casanova want to be in brothel where you pay for sex seems to think it is different, but no girls in the world like to get paid to get fucked with our intention of fulfilling men's lust only, whether it is passion sex or technique or whatever type of sex, they are just being fucked for 50 euro, so we all played part to destroy and beaten down these girls!
Some mongers realize this, some are too blind or stupid to realize this, but like I always wrote, mongers thrive at the down slope of economy! Sad, but true, though it is joy of mongers!
[QUOTE=DrPoon;2592409]Has anyone reported to have caught HIV from the AO clubs? I think there would be some statistics on this and how often are these AO girls tested and if they are on prophylaxis treatment or not?[/QUOTE]You normally get HIV with anal sex, but pussy sex can get that too. However, if somebody did report, then I reckon feminist would have shut it down long ago. Maybe there are some reporting of such incident, that is why maybe this July 2017 law came in force for the misery of monger, the extra 20 or 50 euro for BBBJ in FKK after summer 2017 LOL!
[QUOTE=MrHo;2592539]You normally get HIV with anal sex, but pussy sex can get that too. However, if somebody did report, then I reckon feminist would have shut it down long ago. Maybe there are some reporting of such incident, that is why maybe this July 2017 law came in force for the misery of monger, the extra 20 or 50 euro for BBBJ in FKK after summer 2017 LOL![/QUOTE]It is a good question why that 2017 rule change was passed when it was passed. A little strange that a rule change was passed with that much amount of specificity related to sex acts which are intimate by nature. The sad thing is that it made little practical impact except to hike up prices which was probably not the intent of the legislators whoever they may be. And the other sad thing is that rule changes like these, once passed, are tough to reverse.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2592425]The girls we all played part and helped to beat her down! Some French self claim Casanova want to be in brothel where you pay for sex seems to think it is different, but no girls in the world like to get paid to get fucked with our intention of fulfilling men's lust only, whether it is passion sex or technique or whatever type of sex, they are just being fucked for 50 euro, so we all played part to destroy and beaten down these girls!
Some mongers realize this, some are too blind or stupid to realize this, but like I always wrote, mongers thrive at the down slope of economy! Sad, but true, though it is joy of mongers![/QUOTE]I just had some labs done and everything came back clean. It is very possible to be an "Analist" monger and remain safe and healthy. Of course, I [B]always[/B] use a condom when I cornhole my pretty tutes. And 99.9% of the time with vaginal sex too. I admit to a few times of vaginal bareback. Took a risk. And survived. When I have had a steady girlfriend (been a long time as not really interested), it's been bareback everything all the way with her using birth control.
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2592598]It is a good question why that 2017 rule change was passed when it was passed. A little strange that a rule change was passed with that much amount of specificity related to sex acts which are intimate by nature. The sad thing is that it made little practical impact except to hike up prices which was probably not the intent of the legislators whoever they may be. And the other sad thing is that rule changes like these, once passed, are tough to reverse.[/QUOTE]At least there was only little impact by some price increase, it is still fortunate thing in unfortunate event for mongers, but FKK was collateral damage to that new law as it was targeting AO clubs more I think!
I am crazy monger, but even for me the concept of AO clubs were bit crazy for me, I would agree little more to AO clubs if it was super expensive like few hundred euro to get in and few hundred euro to fuck, but in exchange they use some of that money to control the hygiene level more and be more regulated than some dump place with some dump girls, I think AO clubs should have been the most luxury premium membership club not the other way round that it was in some flat or room somewhere.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2592662]I just had some labs done and everything came back clean. It is very possible to be an "Analist" monger and remain safe and healthy. Of course, I [B]always[/B] use a condom when I cornhole my pretty tutes. And 99.9% of the time with vaginal sex too. I admit to a few times of vaginal bareback. Took a risk. And survived. When I have had a steady girlfriend (been a long time as not really interested), it's been bareback everything all the way with her using birth control.[/QUOTE]Congratulation for the result, live to fuck more stunners another day LOL! Well that condom you put on you penis may saved your life especially in Brazil, but if you look at the data and the probability, HIV is hard to contract from bareback pussy intercourse, even with anal it is quite limited, but it is more probable.
I think as long as you use condom in FKK etc, it is very safe enough, but not 100 percent, but nothing is 100 percent! For some escort, bareback can be done as some girls are really fresh from college or normal world, so ofcouse they have been fucked, but chances of them carrying HIV in let say in G7 nation or Europe, it is quite limited, but it is all to do with how much risk are we willing to take return for pleasure? That is the question LOL!
[QUOTE=MrHo;2592728]At least there was only little impact by some price increase, it is still fortunate thing in unfortunate event for mongers, but FKK was collateral damage to that new law as it was targeting AO clubs more I think!
I am crazy monger, but even for me the concept of AO clubs were bit crazy for me, I would agree little more to AO clubs if it was super expensive like few hundred euro to get in and few hundred euro to fuck, but in exchange they use some of that money to control the hygiene level more and be more regulated than some dump place with some dump girls, I think AO clubs should have been the most luxury premium membership club not the other way round that it was in some flat or room somewhere.[/QUOTE]Before the stupid 2017 laws, most RTC / AO clubs used to have a doctor / assistant come weekly to check / test girls. I am not sure if that still happens because the practice of AO or BBBJ has now become kinda "underground" activity.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2592728]At least there was only little impact by some price increase, it is still fortunate thing in unfortunate event for mongers, but FKK was collateral damage to that new law as it was targeting AO clubs more I think!
I am crazy monger, but even for me the concept of AO clubs were bit crazy for me, I would agree little more to AO clubs if it was super expensive like few hundred euro to get in and few hundred euro to fuck, but in exchange they use some of that money to control the hygiene level more and be more regulated than some dump place with some dump girls, I think AO clubs should have been the most luxury premium membership club not the other way round that it was in some flat or room somewhere.[/QUOTE]It should be run like the porn industry wherein a full test needs to be completed every two weeks and everyone inspects each other's tests including the hobbyists needing to have a full panel of tests.
[QUOTE=DrPoon;2592409]Has anyone reported to have caught HIV from the AO clubs? I think there would be some statistics on this and how often are these AO girls tested and if they are on prophylaxis treatment or not?[/QUOTE]Have you ever visited a RTC like Villa Venus or Arabella or Dietzenbach? And many others. Bernds could be kind of. Just visit and You will understand when you see girls working there. Forget about top beauties who are now even rare at expensive Globe. Before new law which was to protect girls and German wives health, so they must had figures about problems, you could have your dick in girl mouth in couch in lounge in less than 10 seconds, without condom of course, and You saw girls providing to old fat Germans who love these places. New law, but still AO RTC, but they wrote on walls: with condom, in pocket. Then, safe sex for pocket.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2592728]At least there was only little impact by some price increase, it is still fortunate thing in unfortunate event for mongers, but FKK was collateral damage to that new law as it was targeting AO clubs more I think!
I am crazy monger, but even for me the concept of AO clubs were bit crazy for me, I would agree little more to AO clubs if it was super expensive like few hundred euro to get in and few hundred euro to fuck, but in exchange they use some of that money to control the hygiene level more and be more regulated than some dump place with some dump girls, I think AO clubs should have been the most luxury premium membership club not the other way round that it was in some flat or room somewhere.[/QUOTE]Yes, agree with you; very good points!