Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Trojan22;3068563]How good is your Portuguese? 5 week trip I assume it's fluent otherwise it will be fluent by the time you're done haha.[/QUOTE]My Portuguese is a joke even though I have cumulatively spent over 50 weeks in Brazil since 2021. I even tried Duolingo for a couple of months. The only thing I retained from them was how to ace their tests. KKK.

The missus (Valeria) and I have our own special way of communicating which includes her limited English, my limited Portuguese, our combined limited Spanish and Google translate. Somehow it works. I just hoof it with other girls and use Google translate when necessary. So, don't get me wrong, I definitely think being bilingual is an advantage when mongering. For example, I was always impressed whenever I used to go barhopping with an old ISG buddy of mine who spoke fluent Thai. The reaction he would get from Go Go girls whenever he initiated a conversation in Thai was remarkable and could not be denied. But I managed to do pretty good in LOS anyway without being fluent. It's the same same for how I am getting along in Brazil. Bilingual would be better, but it is not necessary in order to have a good time with the girls.

I didn't want to go near Scandallo during my first trip to Sp as I just stayed at the Moema clinicas (and was satisfied enough with what I experienced among them). I do have a question for all you Scandallo fans since there seems to be a lot of you. Assuming the average rate you can get the girls down to is about 1,000 are per session, how does this price compare to what you would have to pay for a session back in your home countries? Is it less or more?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3068657]I didn't want to go near Scandallo during my first trip to Sp as I just stayed at the Moema clinicas (and was satisfied enough with what I experienced among them). I do have a question for all you Scandallo fans since there seems to be a lot of you. Assuming the average rate you can get the girls down to is about 1,000 are per session, how does this price compare to what you would have to pay for a session back in your home countries? Is it less or more?[/QUOTE]Firstly I am not sure 1000 is going to get it these days. Maybe it will but I'the expect 1200 may be more like it. Boots on the ground recently have a lot of girls standing firm on 1500. Personally never gone above 1200 and often go at 1000. Maybe it's my boyish good looks 😉 But wouldn't count on 1000.

That said, we don't go to Scan to save money and a few hundred Reis is noise. I usually end up dropping about 4000 R there per night (including two girls).

The most important part of the answer to your question is there is NOTHING to make a comparison to! Nowhere in the world can you find 150 super attractive girls ready to fuck in a luxe nightclub atmosphere. (And don't tell me FKK or Jakarta. I've done both. Good fun but no comparison). So "price per session" doesn't really matter because it's not just a session. It's the entire experience where fucking is prob one to two hours of a seven hour experience. (I've actually stayed as long as 15 hours there. LOL).

But OK most of us are from the USA or Europe. In the USA it's completely illegal so prices are very high. In fact I wouldn't even bother with a hooker. I do Seeking in the USA and best you can do is $300-500 USD.

Europe has gotten more expensive diva girls in UK are now 400 and up. Spain still a reasonable 200-250/ HR. Jakarta is 100% king of pricing at $22 USD/hr. LOL. Nothing even comes close. Thailand is now $150 ish for a gogo girl.

Given all that, Scan is an amazing value for what you get. Its not just about fucking. If it is then stick to the Clinicas (which I personally don't enjoy I love a club atmosphere).

Ps if u want a more affordable club try Casarao on a Wed-Sat when the big new area is open. After the remodel and when that section is open maybe 70% as fun for 1/2 the price.
PPS You have to go to Scan at least once. It will blow your fucking mind.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3068657]I didn't want to go near Scandallo during my first trip to Sp as I just stayed at the Moema clinicas (and was satisfied enough with what I experienced among them). I do have a question for all you Scandallo fans since there seems to be a lot of you. Assuming the average rate you can get the girls down to is about 1,000 are per session, how does this price compare to what you would have to pay for a session back in your home countries? Is it less or more?[/QUOTE]You went all the way to SP and didn't go to Scandello to even check out what the hype was? Were you in town for work or was this a self sponsored trip to check out the clinicas? If you paid and came all the way to SP, why didn't you check out Scandello? You don't have to partake. But at least check out the venue. Which country are you from and is the mongering cheaper?

Personally, I live in the USA and mongering in the USA is trash. Brazil offers it all especially IOP. I haven't been to Colombia or the FKK but from what I have heard, it isn't much better. I don't like Asian girls so Asia is a total flop for me. I have mongered in Mexico and it isn't bad but it is nothing compared to the Brazilians.

For me the cost isn't an issue. I usually pay R1000-1200 for in house and R2000 for overnight. It is the atmosphere that I am attracted to. Like Steve9696 says, it is an afternoon to all night affair when I go. I don't have access to anything like that in the USA or anywhere else for that matter, so Scandello it is!!

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3068657]I didn't want to go near Scandallo during my first trip to Sp as I just stayed at the Moema clinicas (and was satisfied enough with what I experienced among them). I do have a question for all you Scandallo fans since there seems to be a lot of you. Assuming the average rate you can get the girls down to is about 1,000 are per session, how does this price compare to what you would have to pay for a session back in your home countries? Is it less or more?[/QUOTE]It's illegal where I live so I don't bother. The most I have given a woman in Scandallo is 1200 R, which a few months ago. I generally give them my price and that's it. No "bargaining" back and forth.

I'd concur with the other posters that you should have at least checked it out. Pay the cover and look around the place and use your entrance / consumption fee to have a nice dinner and a couple drinks. Then head to Casarao.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3068657]I didn't want to go near Scandallo during my first trip to Sp as I just stayed at the Moema clinicas (and was satisfied enough with what I experienced among them). I do have a question for all you Scandallo fans since there seems to be a lot of you. Assuming the average rate you can get the girls down to is about 1,000 are per session, how does this price compare to what you would have to pay for a session back in your home countries? Is it less or more?[/QUOTE]Scan is quite simply the best mongering spot on planet earth. Nothing else comes close. Is it cheap? No. But like everything in life, you get what you pay for. Scan is worth every penny.

As for the comments on pricing, I have been to Scan hundreds of times over the past six years and these days 1000 R is where I hold the line. Never have a problem finding something mindblowing at that price point. If a girl is not satisfied with 1000 R, take that as a clear sign she will be an awful performer. She is doing you a favor by signaling you would be better off with someone else. The few times in hundreds of visits to Scan where I have broken the 1000 R line, I have regretted it.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3068659]The most important part of the answer to your question is there is NOTHING to make a comparison to! Nowhere in the world can you find 150 super attractive girls ready to fuck in a luxe nightclub atmosphere. (And don't tell me FKK or Jakarta. I've done both. Good fun but no comparison). So "price per session" doesn't really matter because it's not just a session. It's the entire experience where fucking is prob one to two hours of a seven hour experience. (I've actually stayed as long as 15 hours there. LOL).

But OK most of us are from the USA or Europe. In the USA it's completely illegal so prices are very high. In fact I wouldn't even bother with a hooker. I do Seeking in the USA and best you can do is $300-500 USD.

Europe has gotten more expensive diva girls in UK are now 400 and up. Spain still a reasonable 200-250/ HR. Jakarta is 100% king of pricing at $22 USD/hr. LOL. Nothing even comes close. Thailand is now $150 ish for a gogo girl.

Given all that, Scan is an amazing value for what you get. Its not just about fucking. If it is then stick to the Clinicas (which I personally don't enjoy I love a club atmosphere).

Ps if u want a more affordable club try Casarao on a Wed-Sat when the big new area is open. After the remodel and when that section is open maybe 70% as fun for 1/2 the price.
PPS You have to go to Scan at least once. It will blow your fucking mind.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the insightful responses from all you guys so far as I'm starting to kind of understand why you all go to Scandallo. It seems it's the overall luxurious club atmosphere experience in addition to the girls then that you folks are wiling to pay top $$ for. I've been to some FKKs in Germany where they were really nice inside too but this luxury was more of a nice to have rather than a need to have for me personally. I wouldn't go make a special trip over to Germany just for these FKKs unless I happen to be in Europe for some other purpose then I'll make some time to drop by in one. But again, I would rather find a decent clean brothel instead since the luxury is not an element I like to pay a premium for. Now I'm going to assume that Scandallo tops even the most luxurious FKK but then again for me, this would be going in a direction that doesn't really do much for me in terms of the luxury.

On my next trip to SP, I'll likely take all your advice and at least make a visit to Scandallo since there's so much noise about it but knowing me, I'll probably resist pulling any girls. I'll use up the consumption fee as much as I can with food and drink but even there, I'm the type of guy who likes to eat street market food whenever I travel for local cuisine rather than Michelin star restaurants. But yes I am open to check the place out.

Since it was asked, I'm from Canada near Toronto where we do have a mongering scene but it's driven by incall and outcall services online. Average rates are about $200 Cad for 30 minutes and $300 Cad for an hour but go higher for so called VIP girls (but reviews don't necessarily point to better service). It's a very international scene with girls from all over but I have the issue where it's all online so you cannot check girls out in personal before making commitments to sessions. But these are the rates I've been weighing against for my international travels. For me wherever I travel to, the costs should be lower than my home territory and although at times (but rarely), do I see rates abroad go higher than Toronto, I'm unlikely to session. A good example is most of the venues in Japan which are priced higher than in Toronto so I'll either look for lower end venues or just be a general tourist.

"I'm the type of guy who likes to eat street market food whenever I travel for local cuisine rather than Michelin star restaurants. "

Then Casarao is your spot in Sao Paulo. You can have a great time there for 1/4th of what you would spend at Scan. The tradeoff is the average quality is way lower. That said there are always a few diamonds in the rough. You can walk away highly satisfied if you are patient. = Recent renovations to the lower level have greatly improved the amount of space and the atmosphere. In addition, they recently opened new rooms onsite which corrected for Casarao's worst deficiency, which was shithole rooms with long waits on busy nights.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3068724]Thanks for the insightful responses from all you guys so far as I'm starting to kind of understand why you all go to Scandallo. It seems it's the overall luxurious club atmosphere experience in addition to the girls then that you folks are wiling to pay top $$ for.

On my next trip to SP, I'll likely take all your advice and at least make a visit to Scandallo since there's so much noise about it but knowing me, I'll probably resist pulling any girls. I'll use up the consumption fee as much as I can with food and drink but even there,

Since it was asked, I'm from Canada near Toronto where we do have a mongering scene but it's driven by incall and necessarily point to better service). It's a very international scene with girls from all over but ..,, end venues or just be a general tourist.[/QUOTE]

It is often quicker to travel from Toronto, Canada to Brazil than it is to travel across the full length of Brazil, from Oiapoque to Chu.

The easternmost point of Brazil is closer to Africa than it is to the westernmost point of Brasil.

France's longest land border is not with Germany, Spain, or Italy. It is with Brasil.

Is often quicker to fly from Toronto, Canada to Sao Paulo than it is to take a bus from Sao Paulo to Porto Alegre.

It is often faster to travel from Toronto, Canada to Rio de Janeiro than it is to travel from Manaus to Braslia by road.

You can leave Canada and reach Brazil faster than you can cross Brazil from north to south.

All this perspectives to say Scandallo visit can be closer than traveling across Brasil.

Hope you visit nextime or follow Scandy on instagram . Easy peasy to connect or reconnect with scandalllo garotas beauties followers on Instagrsm

nothin like having a two hot blonde 21 year , Instagram models, pulling & stroking your junk under the table, while she DFK you & her hot bi-girlfriends.

Many of my plans have been derailed, of just dinner & consumables . ,kkk

the first time the elevators door swish open on 2nd floor, combined with scent of lusty perfume , as hot beautiful garotas on the couch, coffee barb & door to main room, all turn to get a good look at you..

damn experience is like a high. knowing every thing you see, ever piece of sexy eyecandy is available to you. wherever you cast your eyes can be your.s,

hope other dudes remember that first time too.

hope other bros experienced the same First time .,

Having met a few hard core mongers I can definitely see those who would go to SP and not touch Scand. I've met a few who get AirBnB's in SantaFe Bogota just to be closer to the street action.

Between all of the clinicas, you kind of have to pace yourself to even have any gas left for Scand. It sucks to hear the starting price is going up there but as has been mentioned before. That's not a place to go and penny pinch, and even if you don't want to spend its still an enjoyable place to be.

[QUOTE=FlappyGilmore0;3068776] I've met a few who get AirBnB's in SantaFe Bogota just to be closer to the street action. [/QUOTE]I've done that. Santa Fe is a blast for a couple nights.

[QUOTE=MIAmgr2026;3068690]Scan is quite simply the best mongering spot on planet earth. Nothing else comes close. Is it cheap? No. But like everything in life, you get what you pay for. Scan is worth every penny.

As for the comments on pricing, I have been to Scan hundreds of times over the past six years and these days 1000 R is where I hold the line. Never have a problem finding something mindblowing at that price point. If a girl is not satisfied with 1000 R, take that as a clear sign she will be an awful performer. She is doing you a favor by signaling you would be better off with someone else. The few times in hundreds of visits to Scan where I have broken the 1000 R line, I have regretted it.[/QUOTE]I agree. I generally hold the line at 1000R, though I've gone up to 1200R. Tell them what you're willing to pay and if they're not agreeable, smile and find the next one. There are so many there and you are king.

[QUOTE=MIAmgr2026;3068690]...... If a girl is not satisfied with 1000 R, take that as a clear sign she will be an awful performer.......[/QUOTE]I suppose if you convince yourself of this you won't feel too bad when the hottest babe you've ever laid eyes upon walks away leaving you nursing a very hard erection.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3068724]so you cannot check girls out in personal before making commitments to sessions[/QUOTE]In Canada, you're mongering with your hands tied behind your back. Why do this?

I understand if you live close enough. And have your regulars that you stick to.

Just last week, I wrapped up a 1-week mongering trip to Toronto. And let me say this clearly. Canada mongering is a big scam.

They don't show you girls in-person. Only online heavily edited pics. Most Asian agencies don't even post real pics just references.

I did extensive research on TERB and poor mongers there talk about TOFTT and reporting back their disappointments. They are comparing faces to celebs and try to describe the girl as accurately + the forum is controlled by agencies and girls are active on it so it's all still a scam.

A lot of catfish is happening. The travel distances sitting in traffic from different areas. Missisauga, downtown, Markham, North York. Lost interest to relax and fuck with all the ubering around.

1 girl I booked incall for 45 m, I walked in saw her fat and ugly. Gave her full money and just left. Many other girls were great disappointment.

Who you going to argue with? Escort agency they know they're scamming. It's take it or leave it.

I can't do it, just can't.

Also Canada is cold during the winter months. Unbearable.

On the plus side, I booked outcalls with LBD with Emmax2 and Chloex1 they were fantastic. KatieKuiper from DD. British Nadia. Japanese girl from Sakura agency. Mind blowing experiences.

Also got my first British chick done checkbox. Great accent, said "she was English! Nadia from TP. Good service.

If you really crave a native English speaking white girl, go to Toronto otherwise Brazilian Garotas, all displayed in the same venue, no traffic, no travel, wyciwyg. Do Brazil.

Just a quick note as I'm here this week and have gone 2 x, both times from 7 pm to 12 am (so a bit early).

For the 'classic' (blonde or light brunette, fit, busty) really attractive girls I've found the ask to be 2-2. 5 k and most will take 1. 5 k (perhaps 1. 2 k close to closing). Others can still be had for 1-1. 2 k, but it does take some negotiation. I'm pretty conversant in Portuguese, but that hasn't necessarily helped me LOL.

The clinicas and Gauguin pricing seem to be about the same, with Bomboa being a graveyard for girls according to a couple friends of friends (I. E. No girls. Unsure of pricing).

Online has been a bit nuts and I've had girls ask for 2-3 k, but still not too hard to find someone for 1 k for a couple hours. Just prepare for 50% of them to flake the first date.

My craziest interaction was with a Scandallo girl I sessioned with in early April for 1. 3 k who now wants 4 k and dinner for outcall! Crazy!

Thankfully I did have a threesome with a favorite and friend for 1. 5 k, had a couple awesome Gauguin sessions for 800-1 k, and my favorita is coming in from Rio for 5500 for 3 days / nights.

In short, pricing all over the map, but it does seem markedly higher to me at Scandallo and online from earlier in the year. You can hold the line at 1k, as I did for a couple nights, but you'll need to lower your standards or you'll go home with your dick in your hand.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3068788]In Canada, you're mongering with your hands tied behind your back. Why do this?

I understand if you live close enough. And have your regulars that you stick to.

Just last week, I wrapped up a 1-week mongering trip to Toronto. And let me say this clearly. Canada mongering is a big scam.

They don't show you girls in-person. Only online heavily edited pics. Most Asian agencies don't even post real pics just references.

I did extensive research on TERB and poor mongers there talk about TOFTT and reporting back their disappointments. They are comparing faces to celebs and try to describe the girl as accurately + the forum is controlled by agencies and girls are active on it so it's all still a scam.

A lot of catfish is happening. The travel distances sitting in traffic from different areas. Missisauga, downtown, Markham, North York. Lost interest to relax and fuck with all the ubering around.

1 girl I booked incall for 45 m, I walked in saw her fat and ugly. Gave her full money and just left. Many other girls were great disappointment.

Who you going to argue with? Escort agency they know they're scamming. It's take it or leave it.

I can't do it, just can't.

Also Canada is cold during the winter months. Unbearable.

On the plus side, I booked outcalls with LBD with Emmax2 and Chloex1 they were fantastic. KatieKuiper from DD. British Nadia. Japanese girl from Sakura agency. Mind blowing experiences.

Also got my first British chick done checkbox. Great accent, said "she was English! Nadia from TP. Good service.

If you really crave a native English speaking white girl, go to Toronto otherwise Brazilian Garotas, all displayed in the same venue, no traffic, no travel, wyciwyg. Do Brazil.[/QUOTE]I never said Canada is all that great for mongering. That's why I don't monger much anymore here. And yeah we have cold winters but I live 7 minutes from the ski slopes and get an average of 100 mornings of skiing each winter. Can't have everything at any one location!