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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2083621]The trend towards short time began about the same time that girls from Manila and surrounding areas started working AC bars in greater numbers. The Korean takeover was gaining momentum also. Manila girls are accustomed to the ST / LT concept in the bars there. They are appalled at the thought of getting drilled all night long with a Viagra fueled dick for one flat fee. It is possible that their attitudes rubbed off on the girls from the provinces who were happy with LT being the standard service included in the bar fine in the past.

The non-English speaking Korean clientle cannot communicate much with the girls and are quite happy to let them go after shooting their load. Therefore, they are content to pay a full bar fine for ST. Western fellas have a problem with this change except for those who cum like Bucky Larson. [URL]https://youtu.be/-4q9zupFFtc?t=70[/URL].[/QUOTE]Yep ST is the norm. HOWEVER last night I got a old fashion old school girl and she fucked he living shit out of me all night and I had to tell her to leave. I am not a happy guy again. I guess the hunt for those type of girls will be a challenge But don't we enjoy the hunt just has much as the kill? And when the kill works out it is so satisfying.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2083360]I'm there now and have not noticed any change at all since I was first here 8 or 9 years ago, and every 3-4 months during that period. No problems with LT; no problems with attitudes; not difficult to find GFE, and I'm almost positive I'm quite a bit older and less of a "hansum man" than most of the posters here.

BE.[/QUOTE]You have not noticed any change? How are you handling the new no smoking laws in AC there GE? Much like Davao, you can't light up anymore in a restaurant or bar with impunity has you have before. It's literally a breath of fresh air now by not having to put up with rude uneducated smokers who are slowing killing themselves and have no problem with damaging the health of people around them. I would say that's a very major change in AC.

[QUOTE=Hootas;2083777]Back in March, all my girls were LT and GFE. Am I doing something different or am I lucky?

Treat the girls well and determine if you have good chemistry are my words of advice.[/QUOTE]3 girls out of 3 I had a streak like that even lately, However My sample size is about 200 girls over a 4 month period. To which I only actually paid the BF to 45 so far. My point is its harder to find them before when it was almost a given they stay with you till you kick them out yourself. The tread is going to ST. Do I get LT girls Yes. Do I get GFE when I take these girls Most of the time yes. But I might have to do 3-5 drink interviews before I find one that does. And A LT girl that says yes in the bar then changes her mind with some excuses to leave soon after the 1st pop is becoming more and more frequent. (RUNNERS). Before I might have had 1 runner in 50 now its about 1 in 6. Of the 45 actual BF girls 6 were runners. I just reporting what's happening to me I am not getting to many 1st choices from the bars and have to settle for the 2nd or 3 choice girls from any given bar. Anyone else having better luck Congratulations.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2083425]And this info / advice is coming from a first time visitor to Philippines.

You were going to report how many bar girls you took back to your hotel without 1st paying the bar fine. How is that going? LOL.[/QUOTE]Nonsense, you are just looking for a silly debate. Good luck with that.

Hi guys,

I need some boots on the ground intel to tell me if the busty waitress in Phillies is still there. I will be there next month and like to have a round with her if she is still there and amenable. Please PM me with her name and any other pertinent details and I will be boobfully grateful. Maybe you can take her for a test run hahha.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=ScreamingBeaver;2084113]You have not noticed any change? How are you handling the new no smoking laws in AC there GE? Much like Davao, you can't light up anymore in a restaurant or bar with impunity has you have before. It's literally a breath of fresh air now by not having to put up with rude uneducated smokers who are slowing killing themselves and have no problem with damaging the health of people around them. I would say that's a very major change in AC.[/QUOTE]My comments were restricted to the single area of debate about the availability and willingness of girls. As to the new smoking restrictions, I guess it's too early to know the full ramifications.

Evidently—according the the ABC management team—the interpretations of the executive order is being left to individual barangay captains, with the predictable result that implementation of the law varies. I'm told, for example, that the barangay in which Walking Street is located as chosen to interpret the order strictly, so anyone caught smoking outside of a bar is subject to an immediate fine. (Php5,000 for foreigners and Php1,000 for locals, or so I'm told.) Barangay officials in the area in which ABC is located have opted for a more lax approach; at ABC for example, there's no smoking in the lower pool bar area, though at the Aqua Lounge, nothing has changed. ABC also continues to offer smoking rooms.

My whole uninformed opinion is that business on Walking Street will decline—particularly among the Korean population, as a huge percentage of Korean visitors appear to me to be smokers. Overall, I'm guessing that the new rules will negatively impact business but it's far too early in the game to know if I'm correct. To me, the idea of censuring those who smoke outdoors is faintly absurd, and I'm guessing that sooner or later, this aspect of the order will be largely ignored, much as it is in Davao.

GE.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2084352]My comments were restricted to the single area of debate about the availability and willingness of girls. As to the new smoking restrictions, I guess it's too early to know the full ramifications.

Evidentlyaccording the the ABC management teamthe interpretations of the executive order is being left to individual barangay captains, with the predictable result that implementation of the law varies. I'm told, for example, that the barangay in which Walking Street is located as chosen to interpret the order strictly, so anyone caught smoking outside of a bar is subject to an immediate fine. (Php5,000 for foreigners and Php1,000 for locals, or so I'm told.) Barangay officials in the area in which ABC is located have opted for a more lax approach; at ABC for example, there's no smoking in the lower pool bar area, though at the Aqua Lounge, nothing has changed. ABC also continues to offer smoking rooms..[/QUOTE]The information the ABC gave you is completely false. I'm not sure if you have ventured out to any bars beyond the Aqua at ABC but if you had you would see all the bars on Walking Street and Perimeter are nonsmoking now. It's wonderful except for the hard core nicotine addicts. I've heard of some of these addicts retreating to the men's crapper to have a quick fix of nicotine. The problem with that is you have to put up with some very unpleasant smells. One guy posted on another forum that he had to endure watching a Korean sitting on his haunches with his feet on the toilet seat taking a dump. You have to be a certain kind of addict to endure that scene.

I believe you may also be mistaken about this new law hurting business. If anything, I've seen an increase in business now because the majority of the people who happen to be nonsmokers can now come in and enjoy the ladies without having to endure some guy huffing away on a Marlboro. The younger Koreans have quickly adapted. They come here for the pussy, not the tobacco. They have laws in Korea that restrict their cigarette usage so they know the drill. They are happy to barfine their favorite spotlight dancer and smoke it up in their rooms where they can only damage their own lungs and the poor barfine who is with him.

I've noticed the guys it affected most is the geriatric smoking monger who is too old to fornicate but still enjoyed going into the bars, lighting up and watching the ladies do their thing. These poor bastards legs are too weak to retreat to the crapper to smoke a ciggy every fifteen minutes. I've noticed those guys have permanently disappeared but have been replaced by younger healthier mongers. Times they have a changed.

[QUOTE=ScreamingBeaver;2084431]
I've noticed the guys it affected most is the geriatric smoking monger who is too old to fornicate but still enjoyed going into the bars, lighting up and watching the ladies do their thing. These poor bastards legs are too weak to retreat to the crapper to smoke a ciggy every fifteen minutes. I've noticed those guys have permanently disappeared but have been replaced by younger healthier mongers. Times they have a changed.[/QUOTE]This paragraph made me laugh. Good humor in there. As a non-smoker it's a positive change. I get to enjoy myself instead of going home smelling of cigarette smoke.

Anyway, back to the AC girls. Saturday night in AC and I was alone. GF had gone back to her province for a few days. I am sad to report that I was in bed my 11 pm and slept until 8. As well as being the first ever AC Saturday night where I have been in bed alone, it is now the first Sunday where I wake up with a clear head.

What to do on a Sunday in AC? Will stroll to Walking street for morning coffee. Will avail of a massage place on the way. After lunch at Phillies will catch a jeep to Perimeter bars. Happy Day (s).

BD.

[QUOTE=ScreamingBeaver;2084431]The information the ABC gave you is completely false. I'm not sure if you have ventured out to any bars beyond the Aqua at ABC but if you had you would see all the bars on Walking Street and Perimeter are nonsmoking now. [/QUOTE]I'm not going to get into a protracted debate about what is, for me, a fairly unimportant topic. However, I'm guessing that the owner of the ABC knows more than you and I do, since the reputation and success of his hotel depends in part on his understanding of the rules. I'm also going to speculate that the American Manager of Aqua, having had protracted discussions with barangay officials, knows what he's talking about.

I note that Blue Sapphire has a smoking room, which the owner believes is legal, and for which he evidently gets not hassles from the powers that be. The owner of Eruptions said he's going to construct a smoking area inside the bar, so I'm guessing he thinks that it's legal to do so as well. I was never a great devotee of WS, and didn't go there at all this trip, so can't comment except to repeat what I was told by others.

GE.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2084975]I'm not going to get into a protracted debate about what is, for me, a fairly unimportant topic.[/QUOTE]


Spoke to a bar owner who owned a bar down McArthur across from Saver's about this very topic. Being a nonsmoker myself, I am thrilled of this law (you want to kill yourself, do it in your own hotel, and don't take me with you). Apparently, the fines for smoking in a bar are HUGE. To allow patrons to smoke, you must build an separate smoking room. The laws how this room is created are very specific (for example, the windows /exhaust must face the street, and no other direction). The smoking room is also extremely expensive, open to ridiculous regulation. He was telling me that he has no choice but to build this separate smoking room, since all smokers will only attend bars with them, so w / out it his bar would lose a lot of business.

Bars on Fields Ave cannot have a separate smoking room since there's no space. They're too small.

--Popper.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2084975] I was never a great devotee of WS, and didn't go there at all this trip
GE.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2083360]I'm there now and have not noticed any change at all since I was first here 8 or 9 years ago, and every 3-4 months during that period. No problems with LT; no problems with attitudes; not difficult to find GFE, and I'm almost positive I'm quite a bit older and less of a "hansum man" than most of the posters here.
BE.[/QUOTE]You are not a great devotee of WS and don't go there (very much) anymore? Couldn't that be the reason you have not noticed any changes?

What exactly is your hunting ground GE?

[QUOTE=ScreamingBeaver;2084431]One guy posted on another forum that he had to endure watching a Korean sitting on his haunches with his feet on the toilet seat taking a dump. You have to be a certain kind of addict to endure that scene.[/QUOTE]By "certain kind of addict" are you referring to scatological voyeurism? Considering that most people can rotate their heads approximately 180 degrees--and thus choose somewhere else to fix their gaze, it seems a little odd that this guy felt he "had to endure it." Perhaps he doth protest too much.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2085376]You are not a great devotee of WS and don't go there (very much) anymore? Couldn't that be the reason you have not noticed any changes?

What exactly is your hunting ground GE?[/QUOTE]Could be. Now I use primarily the "friends of friends" strategy and is appears to work well enough for me. I've never much liked the bars, and have used them in the past to meet 2-3 ladies whose company I enjoyed. Some of those became friends, and that was the start of endless recruitment possibilities.

I saw an earlier question on hunting grounds. The question wasn't directed to me but it prompted my thoughts. There are just so many options in and around AC.

Success is dependent upon my (our) attitude. I tend to be relaxed and not so serious in my dealings with the locals. So any encounter at the market, the phone company, starbucks, the jeepney the filipina will be enquiring are you living here, are you single etc etc. Even replying that I have a GF doesn't change the conversation as in a way they now think that I am a reliable guy that will support a girl.

It's import to have phone number read for easy exchange.

There are many girls that will flirt with the idea of meeting. They will take longer and may not suit a holidaying visitor.

Last night Tuesday I found myself invited to a dinner in a small little room where my infrequent wechat contact had invited me. Down a side street, down an alley, water drain to the side, into a small little room I have met this girl a few times over the past year and only ever got as far as Jollibee. I had given up on her. We had some drinks in her house, then her friends made an excuse that they needed to go out and left us alone. It was very neatly done and I assume that's how pinoy / pinay sex must get arranged.

If you are in AC for just a few days then the bars and wechat are the best ground.

So, AC is full of potential opportunity.

BD.

[QUOTE=DCups;2084294]Hi guys,

I need some boots on the ground intel to tell me if the busty waitress in Phillies is still there. I will be there next month and like to have a round with her if she is still there and amenable. Please PM me with her name and any other pertinent details and I will be boobfully grateful. Maybe you can take her for a test run hahha.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]She was there three months ago when I was there. She is built like a brick sh! T house. Lovely. I asked if she had a BF and she said yes. So I think she is off limits. If she was hooking then I don't think she would be there schlepping drinks. She would be hanging around town at diners and HiSo waiting for mongers to pick her up. I certainly would of! Those DDs are lovely. And she is thick and strong. Very rare for the PI.