Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=SBeach25;3070188]I'm staying at the W so I'm hoping I'm far enough. I also contacted the hotel and they assured me the windows are insulated and sun blockers will help me sleep. I used to live in Playa Del Rey next to LAX and my windows were insulated and had no issues so I'm familiar with being near the airport.[/QUOTE]It would be interesting to know how you get on with the noise. I stayed two blocks away and while I had a superb time with the women I thought I'd give the area a swerve in the future. I've spent a lot of time at airport hotels and been ok so it might all be quite nuanced. Some planes do land north to south at a very low trajectory, if you waved at the passengers they might notice you.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;3070188]I'm staying at the W so I'm hoping I'm far enough. I also contacted the hotel and they assured me the windows are insulated and sun blockers will help me sleep. I used to live in Playa Del Rey next to LAX and my windows were insulated and had no issues so I'm familiar with being near the airport.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PeerSmarmer;3070207]It would be interesting to know how you get on with the noise. I stayed two blocks away and while I had a superb time with the women I thought I'd give the area a swerve in the future. I've spent a lot of time at airport hotels and been ok so it might all be quite nuanced. Some planes do land north to south at a very low trajectory, if you waved at the passengers they might notice you.[/QUOTE]I just stayed at the W a few days ago. I am now at the Intercontinental.

The W wants to think of itself as a 5+ star hotel and in many respects it is, but in other areas it kind of falls short. In any case I enjoyed my stay there, on points and Marriott voucher nights although I can't imagine myself spending over $300/ night on the rack rate.

The good:

1. Very friendly staff and super girl friendly hotel. In fact one night some company threw a private party at the W and invited around 30 girls to help entertain their guests. Valeria and I spotted some of the girls hanging around the hotel entrance when we were going out for dinner one night around 10:30 and Valeria remarked that she had gone on a couple of these jobs before she started working at Scan.

2 a. The hotel has 2 very good restaurants. I recommend inviting one of your girls over for dinner and a shag one night. The rooftop restaurant on the 40th floor offers spectacular views at least as good as those at the Terraco Restaurant in Centro and the food is maybe better.

2 be. The roof top pool next to the restaurant has spectacular views as well. I enjoyed smoking a cubano every morning up there after breakfast. The breakfast buffet, BTW, is real good and the hotel comped it for me which was real nice. While relaxing by the pool it was cool to watch several helicopters land each morning on nearby buildings. I could also see the airport way off in the distance and see / hear planes flying overhead.

3. I could also see the helicopters from my hotel room, but there was zero noise. Excellent sound insulation. And the electrically controlled sun blocker curtains are very effective.

4. The hotel has a good location with a major high end shopping mall 1 block away, and it is in an interesting neighborhood which borders Itaim Bibi.

So, what's not to like? Well, you tell me SBeach after your stay. KKK.

[QUOTE=PeerSmarmer;3070207]It would be interesting to know how you get on with the noise. I stayed two blocks away and while I had a superb time with the women I thought I'd give the area a swerve in the future. I've spent a lot of time at airport hotels and been ok so it might all be quite nuanced. Some planes do land north to south at a very low trajectory, if you waved at the passengers they might notice you.[/QUOTE]Distance from W to Airport is about 5. 5 km. So not too close. From what I've read, the airport has a curfew from 11 pm to 6 am. I have Porto classes in the morning so I can't be too active too long in the evening. Weekends, well that's all fun activities. LOL.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;3070231]Distance from W to Airport is about 5. 5 km. So not too close. From what I've read, the airport has a curfew from 11 pm to 6 am. I have Porto classes in the morning so I can't be too active too long in the evening. Weekends, well that's all fun activities. LOL.[/QUOTE]Who do you take Portugues classes with?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3070212]I just stayed at the W a few days ago. I am now at the Intercontinental.

The W wants to think of itself as a 5+ star hotel and in many respects it is, but in other areas it kind of falls short. In any case I enjoyed my stay there, on points and Marriott voucher nights although I can't imagine myself spending over $300/ night on the rack rate.

The good:

1. Very friendly staff and super girl friendly hotel. In fact one night some company threw a private party at the W and invited around 30 girls to help entertain their guests. Valeria and I spotted some of the girls hanging around the hotel entrance when we were going out for dinner one night around 10:30 and Valeria remarked that she had gone on a couple of these jobs before she started working at Scan.

2 a. The hotel has 2 very good restaurants. I recommend inviting one of your girls over for dinner and a shag one night. The rooftop restaurant on the 40th floor offers spectacular views at least as good as those at the Terraco Restaurant in Centro and the food is maybe better.

2 be. The roof top pool next to the restaurant has spectacular views as well. I enjoyed smoking a cubano every morning up there after breakfast. The breakfast buffet, BTW, is real good and the hotel comped it for me which was real nice. While relaxing by the pool it was cool to watch several helicopters land each morning on nearby buildings. I could also see the airport way off in the distance and see / hear planes flying overhead.

3. I could also see the helicopters from my hotel room, but there was zero noise. Excellent sound insulation. And the electrically controlled sun blocker curtains are very effective.

4. The hotel has a good location with a major high end shopping mall 1 block away, and it is in an interesting neighborhood which borders Itaim Bibi.

So, what's not to like? Well, you tell me SBeach after your stay. KKK.[/QUOTE]I used my Amex Plat perks for 2 nights so it worked out to about $225 per night add the $100 in credit which I booked back in March. Thank you for the advices given. I was hoping maybe during happy hour I see a few talents hanging out at the bar in the hotel and pick up one. Saw the fotos they posted on their page on the Heli pads which is cool. I'll definitely post what my experience is when I check out and go to the Airbnb. First, I'm going to do the FIFA for a game in Mexico (Colombia) and the other in LA (Spain). I'll do a quick Tijuana run to the border and head back to LAX to fly to SAO. But this is good stuff to know! I'm taking every advice given as to make sure I have a good time in Brazil. Thanks to you and all.

[QUOTE=Combo;3070242]Who do you take Portugues classes with?[/QUOTE]I've narrowed my choices to Idiomas 2 Go and Fala Ai. I will visit them when I land and see how each facilities is and see which fits best for me.

Idiomas2 Go has two locations (Moema and Pualista). I prefer and like the Moema because its close to the massages and if I wanted a club, I can go to GG and Cafe.

Fala Ai is in Paulista but has locatons in Rio and Floripa. I like this because if I wanted Scan or Casa I can go after classes and gym from there. Also, I can go to any of these two cities and continue my classes if needed.

Do you have recommendations?

P.S. I'm killing in on DuoLingo. Its like all my bad spanish is basically Portuguese. LOL.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;3070249]I've narrowed my choices to Idiomas 2 Go and Fala Ai. I will visit them when I land and see how each facilities is and see which fits best for me.

Idiomas2 Go has two locations (Moema and Pualista). I prefer and like the Moema because its close to the massages and if I wanted a club, I can go to GG and Cafe.

Fala Ai is in Paulista but has locatons in Rio and Floripa. I like this because if I wanted Scan or Casa I can go after classes and gym from there. Also, I can go to any of these two cities and continue my classes if needed.

Do you have recommendations?

P.S. I'm killing in on DuoLingo. Its like all my bad spanish is basically Portuguese. LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't. Have never taken Portuguese classes in Brazil or elsewhere. I've watched movies and read in Portugues. I speak Spanish which helps (though they're plenty different) and then just making myself talk to Brazilians when I'm in country. But I would love to have a capable private teacher for a hour or two a day when on vacation.

[QUOTE=Combo;3070261]I don't. Have never taken Portuguese classes in Brazil or elsewhere. I've watched movies and read in Portugues. I speak Spanish which helps (though they're plenty different) and then just making myself talk to Brazilians when I'm in country. But I would love to have a capable private teacher for a hour or two a day when on vacation.[/QUOTE]I have taken Spanish for a couple of weeks of 3 hours / day lessons at EAFIT in MDE. Was a good decision and hoping to repeat the same as well in SP. It helped a lot. I think 2 weeks of 3/ hours a day should put me on the right path. The two institutions offer the CELPE-Bras exam prep as well if one should wish to live in Brazil.

1. I'm going to Sao Paulo in September. Which days are best to go to Scandallo, Casaro, Gauguin?

I arrive Saturday and stay till next Saturday??

2. Should I get some money exchange at the bank in the USA To make it easier?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3070400]1. I'm going to Sao Paulo in September. Which days are best to go to Scandallo, Casaro, Gauguin?

I arrive Saturday and stay till next Saturday??

2. Should I get some money exchange at the bank in the USA To make it easier?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Tues-Thurs are the best nights at Scan. Saturday is pretty slow at all boates so you can try the other ones. That is what I usually do. Hit up Ganguin on Friday and usually reserve Saturday and Sunday nights for repeat dates.

I always bring cash to exchange since you will get a better rate in Brasil vs your bank. If you are staying in Jardin Paulista, this is where I exchange my money and they always give a very good rate. Bring only $100 new blue bills.

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[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3070400]1. I'm going to Sao Paulo in September. Which days are best to go to Scandallo, Casaro, Gauguin? I arrive Saturday and stay till next Saturday?[/QUOTE]I've always had a good time at Scandallo, including on Saturday nights that I would not characterize as being "slow". The place was packed! Live band. Just rocking! I even went on a Monday night once and it was better than I thought it would be (but not nearly as good as Thursday through Saturday). Go to any of the clubs during the Thursday through Saturday timeframe for a shot at the best crowds and energy. Yep, I have been on Friday and it was good then too. In my view, the closer to the weekend the better (but Sunday is not an option). Guys who keep saying Saturdays at Scandallo are no good I have no clue what they're talking about. Has never been my experience there. In fact, Saturdays have typically been my preferred night. And regulars here know how much I like Scandallo! I plan to do Thursdays and Saturdays the next time. I am The Cane. The first of the ISG OGs of Scandallo! Singing its praises before anyone else here was. And thats facts!

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3070400]
2. Should I get some money exchange at the bank in the USA To make it easier?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Unless you are trying to minimize the paper trail for one reason or another, you'll get the best rates withdrawing it locally with a debit card. The quick math from my last ATM visit:

USD to BRL was 5. 06.

I withdrew 2000 R, +20 ATM fee.

$399.45 debited from my account.

That works out to 5. 057, so there's no way anywhere else is going to match that. Even if you factor the Brazilian bank's fee in, that works out to about 5. 01. Again I don't see any cambio beating that.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3069946]Hit Gauguin last night and had another damn good time.

The house band was straight fire. They were running classic rock all night and I found myself singing right along with them. Bon Jovi, Livin' on a Prayer, all that good stuff. Man, the music was A+ quality. Rock on, fellas.

Now, I honestly had no clue what most of the girls were asking for sessions that night. Didn't matter. My number was simple: are $500. Same deal for everybody. Not a real more, not a real less. Every one of them agreed, so I wasn't about to argue.

Next was Ana Paula, a spicy little number from Minas Gerais, 22 years old. Somebody explain to me how Minas keeps producing so many beautiful women. We clicked immediately. I think she originally mentioned are $800 or something along those lines, but by 3 AM the number was are $500 and everybody was smiling. That's how negotiations go sometimes. Kkk.
.[/QUOTE]Hey Tochka,

To clarify, that's 500 R for an hour? I just returned to SP and Gauguin was already on my list, but I was expecting 800-1000 R there from what I had read. At 500 R, that's basically Casarao pricing with Scandallo atmosphere.

For Scandallo, Wednesday and Thursday will have the most amount of girls and guys. When they have special / famous live music acts, it will usually be on Wed and Thurs. Those 2 days are also the preferred nights locals visit as they are good days to take clients or use business dinner as an excuse to visit.

Then Tues is the next busiest night, followed by Friday. Many locals guys spend Friday and Saturday with their family and significant others. Monday is usually the slowest as it's the start of the work week for most guys.

Girls who "grind it out" will work 5 days a week to continuously get free admission. They can choose to take Saturday or Mondays off and change that from week to week.

Saturday can be hit or miss, as it is a day / night that many local Asians visit. Local Asians tend to work hard M-F and then relax on Saturday. I've seen Saturdays where half or more of the guys are Asians. So girls that tend to attract Asian clients (Thin, pale skin, cute / pretty face, etc.) would choose to take Monday off and work on Saturday. I've seen Saturdays that are as busy as Tues to Thurs and other Saturdays that are as slow as Mondays.

[QUOTE=JZeleznik;3070505]Hey Tochka,

To clarify, that's 500 R for an hour? I just returned to SP and Gauguin was already on my list, but I was expecting 800-1000 R there from what I had read. At 500 R, that's basically Casarao pricing with Scandallo atmosphere.[/QUOTE]Gauguin Club Pricing & Strategy Confirmations.

Confirming the question about the 500 BRL pricing at Gauguin Club: **Yes, 500 BRL an hour is absolutely accepted by the garotasas well as 600 BRL and 800 BRL. I have personally documented paying each of those rates when offered by slim, blonde *branca* garotas.

Here is how the pricing dynamics play out throughout the night, along with the strategy I used:

Early Entry (Before 9:00 PM) If you arrive early for the entry discount, the garotas will initially high-ball you, asking for 1,000 BRL down to 800 BRL.

Midnight Rush: Around midnight, the English-speaking "bikini teams" in sexy, slinky dresses will approach me two at a time, holding firm at 800 BRL each. After a pair left when I offered 500 BRL each, the next pair of Portuguese-speaking blondes in red dresses tried their luck (they absolutely love their red dresses in Gauguin).

The Late-Night Sweet Spot (2:00 AM – 3:00 AM): This is when all pretense is dropped. As the night winds down, more garotas accept their 500 BRL fate. I was able to line up back-to-back sessions at this rate.

My Club Setup & Strategy:

Location: I don't waste money & time booking a table or a bucket. I hang out at the back bar across from the shark tank, sit in the center seats and circulate the club. I don't anchor to a table. This gives me a prime view of all the garotas circulating the club.

Drinks: I buy a single large bottle of whiskey and drink from that. If a garota wants a drink, she drinks my whiskey or *água de coco* or redgebull —nothing else on my dime.

Attire: There are plenty of biz guys in black suit jackets & black tshirts trying to impress their GDP. Not me. I wear bermudas or cargo pants, sneakers (*tênis* a tight gym shirt, to show off my workout. Kkk. And a jacket (because São Paulo nights are cold and rainy outside).

I never speak to them in English; I only use Brazilian slang. I specifically target the single, young out-of-towners—girls from Minas Gerais (MG) or Goiás (GO) who are newer to the club and the city. The resson why were widely discussed, the MG girls are pretty as hell.

The Follow-Up: I always secure their WhatsApp (Zap) and Instagram to set up love motel threesomes later in the week.

Bottom Line: Yes, 500 BRL, 600 BRL, and 800 BRL are all accepted by the garotas. However, your experience and results will vary from mine based on your timing, negotiation, language, and which night. I personally prefer rock & roll music night.

Have fun out there, and post your experiences!