Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=Rastaman]The hot Brasileiras are poor for the most part, and cannot get a visa to travel to the US...whereby the affluent Brasileiras which mostly aren't so stunning can get a visa to travel to the US. Many just stay, and get married in the US.[/QUOTE]
True. The same goes for Europe.

There is also another reason for the lower standard of brazilian women in Europe. The majority of the these women were brought here by gringo boyfriends. Propably 95% of these women are ex-putas. By some mysterious reason these gringos have chosen women that are mostly 3s to 6s.

Mongers-
I have to strongly disagree with the poster below who claims that most of the hot Brasileiras are poor. The hottest Brasileiras are from the South of Brasil, namely Santa Catarina, Parana and Rio Grande de Sul. These are the most affluent areas of the country. There are also loads of hot women from Goias and Minas Gerais, and these are also affluent areas. Although there are hot women in Rio de Janeiro, most of the hot girls working and studying in Rio are from other areas of Brasil.

I guess this may also have to do with personal preference; if you prefer very dark skinned girls then it is true the the vast majority of good looking dark skinned girls in Brasil are poor.
Suerte,
Rock Harders

[QUOTE=Sperto]...Propably 95% of these women are ex-putas. By some mysterious reason these gringos have chosen women that are mostly 3s to 6s.[/QUOTE]

Here, where I live in center of europe, in the last couple of years we got a big increase of brazilian pro and they are just average too, but what was a rarity, now is easy to find.

I think these gringos that choose from '3 till '6 is because they thought to have higher chances the marriage or relationship could work and last successfull all life time LOL

p.s. in south of brazil, it is true, brazilians look almost like russian devuski, blond hair and blue or green eyes, but with attitude of girls of west europe too and that's not so good....IMHO:

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Ahh yes, Friday, or as they say in Rio: sexta-feira! It was another late start for me, finally giving the boot to whatever ***** I took from Help last night. For those that are curious, yes, the GDPs are starting their asking prices at 500-600R. It doesn't seem like most of them really expect to get that much, or, at least, they know WHO to expect that much from. Over the past few days, I've talked to many-a-garota from Help/Meia Pataca/etcetera who broke down their logic: 1- They don't like white men as lovers, whether Brazilian, American, Canadian or European, that was the honest breakdown I got from at least 5 girls; what was odd about this is that most of the women that said this were white-skinned. They claim to prefer 'black' men because black men give them good, long sex and orgasms more often than not. Of course, one could argue that these girls were playing to me because I am a black man, but I don't think so; it seemed genuine when they said it and they seemed to delight in the idea of taking large sums of money for little work with their white sex partners. I'm not judging anyone, just putting out there what these women are saying behind our (collective) backs. Stop overpaying; none of them are worth it and you're only hurting yourself, just sac up and resist a little! [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Rodeo9112]After I was done, we took a cab to Balcony Bar and had some more monger-sation with other dudes. I observed the difference in the women here vs. Meia Pataca. Again, this is my observation, not anything racially driven, and also based on what I was told by other mongers. Basically, the clientele here are mostly Europeans and/or caucasians who are looking for a "higher class" of girls than would be found at Meia Pataca. They also seek to avoid the raucus, in your face personalities of the many black mongers that tend to hang at Meia Pataca. To each his own. What I was also told (by a white guy) is that the girls at Balcony charge waaaay more there than at Meia Pataca, like 400-500+Reals! Funny, because some of the same girls can be found at Help or Meia Pataca at different times of the day for waaay less.[/QUOTE]Rodeo,

Again, I don't see the correlation between race and what guys agree to pay GDPs. I think what a man agrees to pay a GDP is an individual negotiation. As someone here noted so perfectly - to the ladies the only color that truly matters is the color green. I have enjoyed reading your posts for the most part. I found them informative and entertaining (you have an engaging writing style and at times I felt like I was riding shotgun on your adventures). I also appreciate you taking the time to write them (by the way have you ever read the best selling book "I Hope They Sell Beer in Hell."?) But in several of your reports you seem to take the slant that white guys generally overpay GDPs and are bad lovers. I understand that you qualify these comments with "this is what all the GDPs" tell you or what one anonymous "white monger" at Balcony Bar tells you. I think we already established that you should discount what a GDP tells you as they are always in sales mode and will slant their conversation to their client. Same as how I discount it when a GDP tells me they like some of my features as I am always mindful that they will say whatever it takes to close the deal. And then your buddies chime in and tell you to ignore the racist comments that are coming YOUR way??? Sad that we even need to go there on this forum. I can tell you that I never felt I overpaid for my experiences in Rio, and I've never been kicked out of bed by a GDP for lack of performance. And guess what - I'm not black. And from what I read here many others certainly seem to know how to negotiate and then perform in bed - and I am certain they are not all black guys or possess "the raucus, in your face personalities of the many black mongers that tend to hang at Meia Pataca."

I am sure you are still living the dream, feeling your oats and on a pussy high - but for a guy who seems so independent, confident, out going and fun-loving - I am not sure why you need to seek out and accept the opinions of others that have their own agendas and report them here. IMO, reporting their opinions on the matter of race here adds nothing and actually detracts from your otherwise fun reports. I guess we can only conclude that the fact that you choose to include such viewpoints here again and again reveals your personal feelings.

But, thanks again for taking the time to write your reports. It does sound like you enjoyed yourself. Enjoy yourself on that budget while you can. From where I sit, things are definately changing for Brazil, and even faster for Rio. Olympics are looking good. Property values going up. Investments coming in. Major economic indexes looking good. Rio was just voted the friendliest city in the world.

You have just become my personal hero. Been a while since I laughed that hard. Thanks for the fantastic report!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]... Oh, I almost forgot, to give you an idea of how much I HAD to ream this girl, when we were arguing earlier, she also said, very loudly I might add: "You probably can't fuck anyway! " So, I had her to scream out the open window while I was drilling her: I can't fuck that's why my ass is getting drilled! I talk to much that's why I have to eat dick. I shit you not, I made her say these things in English, so I know she said it though, she'll probably never admit it. She didn't seem to mind, probably because most people didn't understand what the hell she was saying. I wish I had it all on camera, but alas, no video. Pictures are not the best, but, ehh, you get the point. Hahaha! Viviane. One for the books. Nighty night bitches, Vila Mimosa and my homey Voyager tomorrow! I love Rio!

Yippie Kiyay,

Rodeo

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[QUOTE=Hughdad][QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Ahh yes, Friday, or as they say in Rio: sexta-feira! It was another late start for me, finally giving the boot to whatever ***** I took from Help last night. For those that are curious, yes, the GDPs are starting their asking prices at 500-600R. It doesn't seem like most of them really expect to get that much, or, at least, they know WHO to expect that much from. Over the past few days, I've talked to many-a-garota from Help/Meia Pataca/etcetera who broke down their logic: 1- They don't like white men as lovers, whether Brazilian, American, Canadian or European, that was the honest breakdown I got from at least 5 girls; what was odd about this is that most of the women that said this were white-skinned. They claim to prefer 'black' men because black men give them good, long sex and orgasms more often than not. Of course, one could argue that these girls were playing to me because I am a black man, but I don't think so; it seemed genuine when they said it and they seemed to delight in the idea of taking large sums of money for little work with their white sex partners. I'm not judging anyone, just putting out there what these women are saying behind our (collective) backs. Stop overpaying; none of them are worth it and you're only hurting yourself, just sac up and resist a little! [QUOTE][QUOTE=Rodeo9112]After I was done, we took a cab to Balcony Bar and had some more monger-sation with other dudes. I observed the difference in the women here vs. Meia Pataca. Again, this is my observation, not anything racially driven, and also based on what I was told by other mongers. Basically, the clientele here are mostly Europeans and/or caucasians who are looking for a "higher class" of girls than would be found at Meia Pataca. They also seek to avoid the raucus, in your face personalities of the many black mongers that tend to hang at Meia Pataca. To each his own. What I was also told (by a white guy) is that the girls at Balcony charge waaaay more there than at Meia Pataca, like 400-500+Reals! Funny, because some of the same girls can be found at Help or Meia Pataca at different times of the day for waaay less.[QUOTE]Rodeo,

Again, I don't see the correlation between race and what guys agree to pay GDPs. I think what a man agrees to pay a GDP is an individual negotiation. As someone here noted so perfectly - to the ladies the only color that truly matters is the color green. I have enjoyed reading your posts for the most part. I found them informative and entertaining (you have an engaging writing style and at times I felt like I was riding shotgun on your adventures). I also appreciate you taking the time to write them (by the way have you ever read the best selling book "I Hope They Sell Beer in Hell."?) But in several of your reports you seem to take the slant that white guys generally overpay GDPs and are bad lovers. I understand that you qualify these comments with "this is what all the GDPs" tell you or what one anonymous "white monger" at Balcony Bar tells you. I think we already established that you should discount what a GDP tells you as they are always in sales mode and will slant their conversation to their client. Same as how I discount it when a GDP tells me they like some of my features as I am always mindful that they will say whatever it takes to close the deal. And then your buddies chime in and tell you to ignore the racist comments that are coming YOUR way??? Sad that we even need to go there on this forum. I can tell you that I never felt I overpaid for my experiences in Rio, and I've never been kicked out of bed by a GDP for lack of performance. And guess what - I'm not black. And from what I read here many others certainly seem to know how to negotiate and then perform in bed - and I am certain they are not all black guys or possess "the raucus, in your face personalities of the many black mongers that tend to hang at Meia Pataca."

I am sure you are still living the dream, feeling your oats and on a pussy high - but for a guy who seems so independent, confident, out going and fun-loving - I am not sure why you need to seek out and accept the opinions of others that have their own agendas and report them here. IMO, reporting their opinions on the matter of race here adds nothing and actually detracts from your otherwise fun reports. I guess we can only conclude that the fact that you choose to include such viewpoints here again and again reveals your personal feelings.

But, thanks again for taking the time to write your reports. It does sound like you enjoyed yourself. Enjoy yourself on that budget while you can. From where I sit, things are definately changing for Brazil, and even faster for Rio. Olympics are looking good. Property values going up. Investments coming in. Major economic indexes looking good. Rio was just voted the friendliest city in the world.[/QUOTE]

Dudes, sorry about band width and all that shit, but this man made a SPECTACULR post, This racist shit affects everyones thinking, all we have to do is discard it. We are all the same black white yellow. Hughdad you are a legend!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=Hughdad] I guess we can only conclude that the fact that you choose to include such viewpoints here again and again reveals your personal feelings.[/QUOTE]Hey man, thanks for your constructive comments. No, your quote above is, fortunately not accurate. I tried to caveat that these were not my personal feelings, but, just that it is what is being said or relayed to me. Whether it is true or not, I'm just passing on the going gossip. If it were my opinion, you might see something like: "I don't understand why white/European guys overpay so much; they're stupid for doing so and shows x, y, z." The closest I may have come to that is my "rules for approaching a Help girl" when I mention the general hazards of overpaying. Thinking back on it (I'm not actually going back to the report, but), maybe I could have worded some things differently.

To all who have commented to this end on my observations and relaying of information, let me be clear: I don't care who overpays for whatever reason (hell, I'm sure to some, I even overpaid--which I'm pretty sure of myself. The right price comes with experience in country and with women in general), I don't care how anyone is in bed--I only care about what my personal experience is. I don't want to discourage anyone from visiting Rio for fear their skin color might give them a bad experience, but, I do want to offer. To all mongers. Information on perceptions that may be able to arm them for their trip, so they can be prepared for what is going to be thrown at them (I. E. Potentially higher prices or expectations of quick service by the GDPs). I have friends from every shade of the rainbow and have all of my life. I have also mongered side by side with mongers from all over the world in Brazil, Colombia, DomRep, Panama, Germany and Amsterdam--its not about race. I have personally talked to guys (white and European) that have approached a girl and she flat out told them that she prefers men with darker skin for whatever reason. Also, I have personally been told by women and mongers (the guys, who, interestingly enough used this to brag that they could get any girl) that they will try to go with white/European men first because they can get more money. These are facts (as presented to me, characteristic of some chicas and GDPs), not my opinion.

Now, this part is my opinion. My observations are NOT out of the realm of reality. For those that know the dynamics of the Americas, to include colonization, slavery and the relatively recent integration/mixing of the races, it all makes sense. In the Americas (South and Central, Caribbean and North), over time, it has generally been those with white skin that are the more well-to-do financially, due in part to historic limitations put on the advancement of people of color during and since slavery (not being allowed to read, go to school, hold a job with good wages, allowed to advance in society, etc). Then, of course, there are institutional biases and long-standing family-taught descrimination that is prevalent in some societies (Colombian, Cuban, Dominican and Brazilian to name a few that I have had personal experiences with). In a "thing" I had going on with a Colombian girl here in the US, she told me how she had to explain to her mother that I wasn't "too" black. A fair skinned Dominicana whom I had been with on 4 separate occasions for the same price, once told me that she would have to postpone our session because she was going to be with an Italian man who was going to pay twice the going price for the same amount of time. Of course, any American knows the adage "Once you go black, you never go back, " which was popularized by the curiousity of white women since reconstruction and the later end of segregation when interracial relationships began to be more common.

No one can argue that the rumors/stereotypes do exist of the virility and potency of those with African ancestry. These are even bought into by the very existence, at high levels, of mongers who travel to places where interbreeding with those of African ancestry has created those magnificent asses and sensuality of the women that we love so much (hint: this didn't come from the Spanish).

Hughdad, I respect your comments and thank you again for the constructive dialogue. For anyone else who has commented constructively, thanks to you as well. However, anyone wishing to label me some sort of racist or being gullible, I get your point. Now, let it go. Let the thread get back to its purpose and if you have further comments, just PM me. That way, I can read it, you get your point across to me and others don't have to be bothered with the back and forth. I also won't have to waste time responding to bullshit and can get on with finishing my trip report for other dudes like me who like to fuck rather than engage in philosophical bullshit.

Keep your pimp hand STRONG!

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Beach Star]We are all the same black white yellow. Hughdad you are a legend!!!!!!![/QUOTE]

Hey Beach Star

On that note bro, if we keep f.u.c.k.i.n.g each other like we do, eventually we will all be the same color :-)

Cheers

A158

I read the posts about how GDP's prefer black men, bla bla bla. Well this is my 10th trip in 3 1/2 years and I can tell you, when the subject came up, I was told the exact opposit. They tell me they don't like black men, for various reasons. So I can only conclude they stroke the ego of whatever client they are with. When they are with a black man they say they don't like white men, when they are with a white man they say they don't like black men. Remember they are working, we are playing. Bottom line is they tell us what we want to hear, the only danger here is if we believe this shit.

No Stress!

LL

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]After I was done, we took a cab to Balcony Bar and had some more monger-sation with other dudes. I observed the difference in the women here vs. Meia Pataca. Again, this is my observation, not anything racially driven, and also based on what I was told by other mongers. Basically, the clientele here are mostly Europeans and/or caucasians who are looking for a "higher class" of girls than would be found at Meia Pataca. They also seek to avoid the raucus, in your face personalities of the many black mongers that tend to hang at Meia Pataca.[/QUOTE]
* Rodeo I enjoy your reports, but why the need for discussing the colours of the mongers? Who cares?

* My opinion of MP and Balcony:
- MP: Low-standard, overweighted and spoiled girls with no chance of finding a good bargain.
- Balcony: Also low-standard. Lower prices, calmer and a bigger chance of finding something worthy to pay for.
I dislike both places, but I noticed that many long-timers prefers Balcony.

* The MP-issue: MP used to be very good (hundreds years ago...). Then the standard went bottom-low and the prices sky-high. Why? Partly because of the MP-mongers who keeps pushing the prices up, like "this is our daytime-Help".

* Why do many of the "older" mongers avoid MP nowadays:
1. Because of the low-standard of the GPs.
2. The high prices of the GPs.
3. Because of the mongers that attend MP. The clientele now is mostly a bunch of loudspeaking mongers that loves to hear their own voices and bringing their own music to MP (in their ghetto blasters). At least during high-season the majority of these mongers are black americans.

* Me, being white european coming from a country with 33% immigrants, couldn't care less of the colour of the mongers at MP. What interest me is the women. What disturbs me is when gringos can't keep the volume down instead of acting as a Brazil-vacation is one big f**king music-video.
No need for giving me a racial shitstorm because of my little statement. I've met a lot of nice educated and polite black guys at MP. The colour of your monger-skin means absolutely nothing to me. What interest me is the colour of the bunda. Anything between snow-white and coal-black serves me fine (with a preference of light brown :D)

* I know that many of our best forum posters here are coloured. They have no need to comparing races when reporting, neither have I. I can deal with a post from a white redneck writing racist posts (Mr Brazilm*n), I just scroll by as he got nothing to add to the forum. With you, Rodeo, it's different. You write entertaining posts, and you have no need for adding discussions about skin colours.

I could care less about the race of anyone here. I have enjoyed my of the entertaining posts here and have garnered some terrific information along the way. I have said repeatedly that this site is like a Masters in Mongering if used properly (using the search and diving back through the archives instead of just asking the same questions over and over.) I have gotten some great advice in PM as well. Thanks to all.

While I do not know anyone here personally and never met anyone, I believe there are some great intelligent guys here with terrific senses of humor and some great sarcastic skills. And I would be more than happy to have a beer with anyone here when in our favorite city. I have to say that Sperto and Rodeo both have recently given us some great info. And Sperto's Centro casa maps are priceless. I really enjoy what he has to say and how he says it. And Rodeo - your reports were entertaining and a good read. As I said you really have an entertaining writing style. I just have no interest in reading opinions of how the races are perceived in Rio by garotas or whomever. I too love ladies of all colors and nationalities, with mulatas being my weak spot.

I really wanted to say thanks to all the members here who take the time to share their vast knowledge of all things Rio.

Sperto,

Hey, thanks for the post. I wish this would just die. I was merely trying to make some of the same points that you made:

[QUOTE=Sperto]Why do many of the "older" mongers avoid MP nowadays:

3. Because of the mongers that attend MP. The clientele now is mostly a bunch of loudspeaking mongers that loves to hear their own voices and bringing their own music to MP (in their ghetto blasters). At least during high-season the majority of these mongers are black americans.

* Me, being white european coming from a country with 33% immigrants, couldn't care less of the colour of the mongers at MP. What disturbs me is when gringos can't keep the volume down instead of acting as a Brazil-vacation is one big f**king music-video.[/QUOTE]I actually have a different opinion of the quality of girls at MP. While I did see my share of fat, ugly ones, who themselves didn't even seem to try to make a sale. Off the top of my head, I can count at least 10 hotties at MP (3 of which I banged) that had every guy drooling. And the prices, with some good negotiating always seemed fair. No doubt you would normally get some flack for your comments about the ghetto blasters (maybe not this time because of its context referring to another's post), but, I agree. I don't have a problem with that mind you, but, it is your honest observation, which is all I was trying to offer as well.

I hope to run into you on a trip one day; maybe we can share a pitcher or something! I think we should all just learn to agree to disagree and not judge each other based on what are merely observations.

Rodeo

Rodeo9112,

Good report I been hearing **some guys** crying about the so called "Ghetto Blasters" code word wink wink? At Mia P. For decades but never once heard or seen any of the girls complain about it? Wonder why? I GUESS because they busy dancing to it LOL

As far as "Now mostly the clientele going to Mia P are so called Loudspeaking mongers"? Haven't notice hell in Rio who isn't loud speaking? Just sound like a another code phase to me.

Rodeo9112, IF some can use these code words like:

A. Ghetto Blasters

B. Loud speaking mongers

C. Fucking music video

You can speak on race at least you not using code words to make a point of what you seen or heard.

Keep up the good work.

Kid Cisco

Rodeo9112,

Damn. Great report!! I run my game in SP but damned if your report doesn't make me want to head to RJ for a weekend!

Props to you and your crew for what sounded like a hell of a time!

Well, speaking as one of the "coloured" mongers on this board! I wish the race baiting BS would stop.