Medellin Reports

Well you can do what you want obviously. But all that was pretty fucked up. Especially since that kind of stupid shit fucks it up for guys who really want to do just what you said (other then the sin condom thing although that's how I insist on my BJ, fucking is another story it's a must to use).

Then guys wander why girls act like assholes.

In short what a dick thing to do.

But hey that's up to you but it sure as hell isn't helping good people on this board.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1955814]So this morning I tried something completely different. I changed my location to Cartagena on Tinder. I found the Cartagena Tinder, as has been reported in the past, is flooded with working girls.

Instead of the usual mister naive nice guy I like to play, I decided to be a complete asshole and see how far I could get. I told her right of the bat to shut up (callate), she sent back a "jajaja soy dame de campania" to which I sarcastically told her I was surprised to hear. I proceeded to tell her I had a jacuzzi waiting in Medellin and wanted to fly her out. I told her all expenses will be paid and I would give her a good sum of money (did not mention how much). I didn't even wait for a response. I told her I would do her "sin condom" the entire two weeks she would be with and not to argue. I expected her to unmatch. Instead she sent me her whatsapp number and told me she's game.

In Whatsapp I asked her for a cedula number so I could book her on the Avianca flight. She sent me a photo of her ID which shocked me even more.

I unmatched her and blocked her on whatsapp. Honestly, I was surprised any of that worked but being hyper aggressive and just generally an asshole gets results?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1955818]
In short what a dick thing to do.
[/QUOTE]Yes I know. I shouldn't have done it. I was just curious to see how far you could get. To be honest I feel bad because this girl was probably desperate for work. I bet Cartagena is flooded now with Venezuelans and its hard for working girls to find clients regularly.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1955814]So this morning I tried something completely different. I changed my location to Cartagena on Tinder. I found the Cartagena Tinder, as has been reported in the past, is flooded with working girls.

Instead of the usual mister naive nice guy I like to play, I decided to be a complete asshole and see how far I could get. I told her right of the bat to shut up (callate), she sent back a "jajaja soy dame de campania" to which I sarcastically told her I was surprised to hear. I proceeded to tell her I had a jacuzzi waiting in Medellin and wanted to fly her out. I told her all expenses will be paid and I would give her a good sum of money (did not mention how much). I didn't even wait for a response. I told her I would do her "sin condom" the entire two weeks she would be with and not to argue. I expected her to unmatch. Instead she sent me her whatsapp number and told me she's game.

In Whatsapp I asked her for a cedula number so I could book her on the Avianca flight. She sent me a photo of her ID which shocked me even more.

I unmatched her and blocked her on whatsapp. Honestly, I was surprised any of that worked but being hyper aggressive and just generally an asshole gets results?[/QUOTE]Karma is going to come back and bite you buddy.

Why mess with girls like that?

I can understand it with a girl that dissed you, but whatever, takes all kinds.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;1955449]Seems to me that all that Black Page was saying it that it takes some Spanish to get around Medellin. You can't just parachute in with three or four words of the language and expect to avoid a lot of frustrations. There are destinations though that are set up for gringo tourism where one can literally show up with nothing but hola and adios in their pocket and do quite well if they confine themselves to certain areas. Medellin isn't one of them though. And if someone wants to claim that they can show up in Colombian knowing only a few words and get the rest done with hand signals I'm going to call them full of shit. Lying on the internet is easy and common enough. .

P.S. Not to mention that if you go around to the casas which are set up for the Colombians speaking English without even attempting to speak Spanish you're just going to look like a dick, but what is else is new.[/QUOTE]Fair enough, I agree with MDE not being as English friendly as the other places like Thailand and the scene wasn't designed with foreigners in mind. At the same time, if we are just talking about casas and places like San Diego and Face Dos, etc, how much really needs to be said? Agree to the pre set price package, pick a girl and go. If you are there to just screw, not much need to be said especially at the kinds of places I mentioned before. As far as taxis, have the address of the place you want to go handy and give it to the driver, if he doesn't know, move on to someone who does or he will ask another driver how to get there (that was my experience). The basic P4 P scheme is not that much different than the other destinations if you take away the Mabs, walking street, Classicos, and Del Rey type locations. If you do your research and prepare accordingly, you should be good in the P4 P game even without Spanish skills.

Now outside of P4 P, I agree 100% that it's very difficult without the language skill, but so can some of the other destinations. It can definitely get boring there outside of P4 P if you don't have anything else going.

[QUOTE=Ee2002;1955976]FThe basic P4 P scheme is not that much different than the other destinations if you take away the Mabs, walking street, Classicos, and Del Rey type locations. If you do your research and prepare accordingly, you should be good in the P4 P game even without Spanish skills.[/QUOTE]The first one surrounds the phrase "sexual tourism destination" which is defined any way someone chooses. To BP certain parameters are involved while Mr E considers any place when you can ask a taxi driver "where are the girls?" qualifies.

Now we want to define "Spanish skills. " Well you aren't getting English in Medellin like in Gringo Gulch CR for example, so it would be a good idea to show up with some, to, and I reiterate, order some food, talk to the taxi driver, deal with the maid, the hotel, and the bank, and to even understand a bit of what is said to you at the casas and to make certain requests. It's also common courtesy to make an attempt at speaking the local language and abiding by local customs. So yep some Spanish skills (but by no means fluency) is called for in a way that it isn't in some other destinations.

I'll add this, any guy wanting to walk around El Centro in cargo shorts hitting the casas and with no interest in using the local language, I'm personally not going to do anything to help you. My choice.

[QUOTE=Balboa;1955942]Karma is going to come back and bite you buddy.

Why mess with girls like that?

I can understand it with a girl that dissed you, but whatever, takes all kinds.[/QUOTE]In the interest of putting this to rest. I unblocked and messaged her a brief apology. A few hours later she responded: "jajaja, no problem. " I don't think she cared. She probably gets all kinds of weird messages and pranks.

Recap of this week: Chilled Sunday. Hit Lili Swing club on Monday for Gang Bang night. It started to rain on my way there. Unfortunately It was over by the time I got to the club. Due to the down pour, Majorista was out of the question. My only option was the Centro Strip Clubs. Hit Maracaibo, it was almost dead, decided on having 1 beer to get out of the rain. Upon sitting down, 3 Venezolanas surrounded m: A young skinny one, an older skinny one with bolt-ONS and a MILF. It was the MILF's 4 day in Medellin and supposedly had not had sex in 2 months. The MILF won out. In the back room she acted like she hadn't had any in 2 months. Wild and Wanton she was, gave me a little BBBJ too. I had a great time with her. YMMV.

Tuesday, I was contacted by a semi pro I met last May. I had no plans for the night and she suggested Lili Swing club for Lesby night. I got there at the agreed upon time, but she didn't. For some reason, there wasn't much action at Lili this night. After it was over I went to Majorista.

Not that many chicas were present, and the pickings were slim. However, I did find one MILFy looking chica with a nice rack and pulled her for a round. She was OK, but she also looked better with her clothes on. Mission accomplished.

I was a Zero on Wednesday. Wasn't sure what to do on Thursday, when Ms Semi Pro hit me up again. She wanted to go to Lili again. This time, I had her come to my apartment, so we would go together. This worked out better and she arrived on time.

We were the first to arrive at the Club. Gradually other couples and groups of single women arrived. There were more women then men this night. Last to arrive were two Fase II babes, one was from Venezuela. My "date" is known at Lili and we got to mingle. This was a much better night at Lili. I played with my "date" a few times. Unfortunately, like my previous visits here, no swapping occurred between any couples. None of the single ladies joined us either.

After we closed up Lili, my "date" wanted to go to a disco nearby. Fahrenheit, I think it was called. We met up with the Fase II babes there. I was hoping we'd take one or both to them home, but sadly that was not go be. (My "date" is Bi, BTW.) She wanted the Venezolana as much as I wanted. The Fase II chicas left. There was a table of babes nearby, with this Outstanding Chica. Unfortunately she wanted too much and wouldn't budge. My "date" also couldn't get her to close the deal.

The sun was out when we left the disco. Ms Semi Pro still wanted to party. We hit another bar called VIP room, I think. (Things were starting to get fuzzy at this point.) I have no clue were this place is located. It wasn't that crowded and there were a few women there. We had 1 round at headed home. We got back to the apartment after 9 a.

Friday: I arrived at Ejecutiva about 12:30 a, it was crowded, but not as much as the previous Friday. Also, it looked like less chicas, Maybe because of the rain. I bounced between Ejecutiva and Maracaibo the rest of the night. Hooked up with the MILF from Monday night again. She wanted a repeat. We were going to hit a nearby Motel since it was a;most closing time. On the way to the motel, she mentioned Casa Blanca, an after hours club. I had heard about this place, but wasn't sure of its location. Surprisingly it's walking distance from Lafayette Motel. I think this is a illegal club, it has no signage, locked barred entrance. They only open when the coast is clear. This is were the the Maracaibo and Ejecutiva chicas go, when there clubs close. It was packed. Lots of young local dudes too. Beers and ladies drink are 6 K. They also have dancers, who come around looking for tips after their set. This place is open til Noon or later!

We had a couple of rounds, and walked to Lafayette motel. Another good time with this MILF, but she balked at the BBBJ this time. This was the second night I got home after 9 a.

[QUOTE=Combo;1955591]No, it's certainly not like the places you mentioned where it's pretty much in your face. That said, any hobbyist who does his research and is reasonably determined can find pay-for-play in MDE. Even if he speaks no Spanish.[/QUOTE]I speak Spanish, I did my research prior to my first trip. Some of these casitas are hard to find, as there is no signage, and some have no address on display. (It's the Blue Door, for example.) Other examples, Sexy Fantasias 1 and Chicas Punto com are hidden away inside a a small shopping mall on the second and third floor. Had I not cross path with the tout outside, I never would have found these places. Yakusa, is on a street, an ally maybe, that doesn't show up on Google maps. I was wandering around the area trying to find it. The Dude I was with, on my first trip, who has been here many times, also had some difficulty find some of these places. This is what BlackPage was referring too. And I'll add the difficulty of getting BBBJ here. I having fun, but I've had More fun in other places.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1955984]I speak Spanish, I did my research prior to my first trip. Some of these casitas are hard to find, as there is no signage, and some have no address on display. (It's the Blue Door, for example.) Other examples, Sexy Fantasias 1 and Chicas Punto com are hidden away inside a a small shopping mall on the second and third floor. Had I not cross path with the tout outside, I never would have found these places. Yakusa, is on a street, an ally maybe, that doesn't show up on Google maps. [/QUOTE]Yes, it is! Look at it again. Its on Carrera 50-a behind the Hotel Nutibara. Its not marked but its right next door to the "love hotel" Desios, which you can see on Google streetview. Desios has an image of a charging unicorn on the front window. LOL. Its actually on the same short block where the airport combus departs and arrives. If you need to pop as soon as you arrive, or right before you leave for the airport, you are only 50 feet away from Yakuza.

I scoped out the general vicinity based on the address via google maps before setting out, so I knew what to look for. But, as I got on the Avenida behind the Nutibara, some hawker was handing out little slips of paper for Yakuza with the address, and he pointed over his shoulder. How could it have been easier to find, other than having him take you by the hand and lead you there? Yakuza doesn't have a sign, but the door was wide open. Some young guys were loitering around the entrance, talking to a young chica. I said "Yakuza?" (remember, I don't speak Spanish) and the chica nodded and motioned me inside. The rest is in my trip report.

For those who need a bit more guidance, check out the photos on this site.

[URL]http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/erotic-massage-parlor[/URL]

Click on the thumbnails for the casa you want to visit and it will give a reasonable idea of where you need to be going. The door in the middle is where you should walk in. I checked out the location for Barcelona, but did not go in, whilst walking through that neigborhood. I hailed a cab and showed him the street address to Aifee on my smart phone. He dropped me right in front of the place. You can bet cab drivers know where this stuff is at. The entrance to Aifee is just like the door in the middle of the photo on the website, as well as on google maps streetview. It has a bright red door frame. Easy to spot. I swear, the internet makes this shit so easy! But, not everyone is me.

I am booked for Colombia for 2+ weeks in mid Nov, and had a couple questions, or more like recommendations. Basically stuff that I wasn't able to find after extensive RTTF. And since I will be staying in MDE for the majority of the time, I am posting in this forum.

I am travelling solo, 34 years old, decent Spanish skills, average salsa / bacahta dancing skills (which I hear is good for the non-pros), and I prefer my girls semi-pro to non-pro, with GFE.

My first stop is Bogota, landing on a Friday afternoon, was the only direct flight from Toronto, so am going to spend the weekend there, then head to a different city. The cities that I want to cover are Bogota, Medellin, Cali and (maybe) Cartagena. I will be booking one way flights within the cities they are about $40 Canadian dollars (1 $ = 2200 COP), and am ok with booking flights and hotels / Airbnb's at the last minute. I don't want to have a set itinerary, in case I like / dislike one city and want to stay there longer / shorter.

-- Question #1 is, since I have 3 weekends to spend in Colombia, which of those cities are better during the week, and which ones deserve a weekend?

-- Second question: Is the weather as cold as it says in Bogota, and as rainy as it says in Medellin? I'm from Canada, so I want the warm weather, which is why I have Cali & Cartagena in mind.

-- 3rd question, I've been reading that getting girls from Facebook is a good idea. How would I add some girls, I. E. Where would I start in finding them? I am getting Tinder + (as recommended by YippieKayay), and other dating apps, so that will help.

Can't think of anything else to ask right now, but feel free to give any recommendations, or anything that might help me.

Thank you for your help, and look forward to providing updated reports during and after my stay.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1955984]Recap of this week: [/QUOTE]You really know how to move around there! Kudos.

Lili is one of my favorite places. The problem is that they admit singles only on dead days, and on hot days real couples can spot immediately if your date is a semipro or not. Hence the chances to play with real couples or not.

Casa Blanca has been active there for many years already. It's not so bad. A nice place where to go afterhours ("amanacero", which should be "amanacedero" Anyone knows if La Manzana is still open? How is it? Years ago, a taxi driver named it to me as a "nido de perros".

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1955989]Yes, it is! Look at it again. Its on Carrera 50-a behind the Hotel Nutibara. some hawker was handing out little slips of paper for Yakuza with the address, and he pointed over his shoulder.[/QUOTE]My fault for not being clear. I did find it. Prior to finding it, I asked staff at a business around the corner from it and they didn't know. Finally encountered the Hawker a block away, and I had him take me to it. Sadly, nothing to my liking at the time. Went another time and only 2 chicas present. They supposedly close later than all the other centro casitas.

[QUOTE=Ee2002;1955976]Fair enough, I agree with MDE not being as English friendly as the other places like Thailand and the scene wasn't designed with foreigners in mind. At the same time, if we are just talking about casas and places like San Diego and Face Dos, etc, how much really needs to be said? Agree to the pre set price package, pick a girl and go. If you are there to just screw, not much need to be said especially at the kinds of places I mentioned before. As far as taxis, have the address of the place you want to go handy and give it to the driver, if he doesn't know, move on to someone who does or he will ask another driver how to get there (that was my experience). [/QUOTE]This is still bad advice. You are continuing to overlook everything else that happens outside of visiting casas and strip clubs. Can you order from an all Spanish menu? What happens if you drugged and robbed? Do you know how to call the police and explain this to them? Can you describe the physical description of the assailants?

Let's take your example of "oh, you don't need to know any Spanish. Just hand the taxi driver a piece of paper with the address of where you want to go". Knowing a decent amount of Spanish will help you with situational awareness, because if the taxi driver turns to you and says "sure amigo, but we are going to make a detour through my barrio first to pick up my friend because he wants to go as well", then you would have no idea that you are possibly in danger.

You may think the above example may be a wild exaggeration, but there was a Senior Member here (I think it may have been Ricker; I remember that this particular poster would post here and also in the Rio thread) who wrote about bailing out of a taxi mid-trip leaving La Mayorista because the driver was taking a route different than what was asked of him. This particular Senior Member knew the area well and also understood and spoke some Spanish, so he was able to assess the situation and make a judgement call that possible kept him out of danger.

Just imagine the shit you would be in with the opposite.

We all make mistakes! Thanks to owning up to that one. I have definitely made my share. It takes a real man to admit he probably didn't do the right thing.

Thumbs up.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1955842]Yes I know. I shouldn't have done it. I was just curious to see how far you could get. To be honest I feel bad because this girl was probably desperate for work. I bet Cartagena is flooded now with Venezuelans and its hard for working girls to find clients regularly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1956139]This is still bad advice. You are continuing to overlook everything else that happens outside of visiting casas and strip clubs. Can you order from an all Spanish menu? What happens if you drugged and robbed? Do you know how to call the police and explain this to them? Can you describe the physical description of the assailants?

Let's take your example of "oh, you don't need to know any Spanish.[/QUOTE]Hell. I can barely do all of that stuff in English. Been to Vietnam; do not speak Vietnamese. Been to Russia; can only say Hello, and biotch in Russian. Been to Egypt and can not speak any Arabic. Been to a ton of other places without knowing the language. If everyone depended on knowing the local language before going anywhere then nobody would ever go anywhere. Even if you do know the language, that is not going to stop evildoers that wish to do you harm. They are not going to stop with their plans for the simple fact that you can say hey this is not the way to my hotel in the local language.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1956139]This is still bad advice. You are continuing to overlook everything else that happens outside of visiting casas and strip clubs. Can you order from an all Spanish menu? What happens if you drugged and robbed? Do you know how to call the police and explain this to them? Can you describe the physical description of the assailants?

Let's take your example of "oh, you don't need to know any Spanish. Just hand the taxi driver a piece of paper with the address of where you want to go". Knowing a decent amount of Spanish will help you with situational awareness, because if the taxi driver turns to you and says "sure amigo, but we are going to make a detour through my barrio first to pick up my friend because he wants to go as well", then you would have no idea that you are possibly in danger.

You may think the above example may be a wild exaggeration, but there was a Senior Member here (I think it may have been Ricker; I remember that this particular poster would post here and also in the Rio thread) who wrote about bailing out of a taxi mid-trip leaving La Mayorista because the driver was taking a route different than what was asked of him. This particular Senior Member knew the area well and also understood and spoke some Spanish, so he was able to assess the situation and make a judgement call that possible kept him out of danger.

Just imagine the shit you would be in with the opposite.[/QUOTE]Ok, the scenarios you described can happen anywhere you travel where the primary language is other than your own, even the sexual tourism locations, especially once you venture out of the tourist zone. Obviously learning the language is a good thing to do anywhere you go, but it's not absolutely necessary and you are not doomed if you don't, even in Medellin. Like Mr E said, you wouldn't be able to travel anywhere if that was the prerequisite. Although Medellin still isn't English friendly, there have been info available online about this place for over a decade. Many trip reports have been written about where to go and not to go. If your language skills are lacking and you have problems reading a menu there are ways around it, this is 2016, LOL.

Anyways, that's my view and I can respect the other opinions on the subject based on your experience. We don't have to agree on everything. Most important thing is that you do your research (RTFF), be respectful, be careful and have a good time, can we at least agree on that, LOL!