Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=TConor;2996718]I totally disagree, 2 k for 40 min. 1 shot? Great deal - 555. I found them to be clock watches and 80% of the pictured ladies are not there.[/QUOTE]Interesting, I remember 20 years back the price was 400/ room and 1500/ sex so 2 K for 40 mn isn't a bad deal at all. 40 mn is enough (30 mn of sex) as I guess people who choose this don't want the massage at all. Just shower / sex.

As for the ladies, I'd say it's pretty normal / common practice. They want you to get through the door so they put their best girls on the net (even the ones no longer working there), once you're inside, you are more likely to pick a girl from their available selection than just leaving without choosing.

[QUOTE=TConor;2996718]I totally disagree, 2 k for 40 min. 1 shot? Great deal - 555. I found them to be clock watches and 80% of the pictured ladies are not there.[/QUOTE]Many girls might not be there when we show up but these are not fake profiles. You can always book any of the girls listed for the next day, I've done it many times in the past. They will just ask for a name and phone number, no need to pay in advance. And in any case the girl is not available during that period, they will tell you straight up. They are not the kind of scammers trying the bait and switch.

[QUOTE=PgReal;2996565]You are contradicting yourself there slightly, you are successful with the dating sites, but easier to visit a MP. Just have an exit strategy ready when the girl arrives at your hotel or condo, tell up at the start, you need to work later or will be getting up dead early to go travelling. Some story in case you want to ditch her. I do agree after a couple of hours they become like clingy kids especially when they start getting hungry. I can't be doing with having to feed them, at that point it's here is a tip to buy yourself some food on your way home!
[/QUOTE]Not really a contradiction. I'm apparently not charming enough to suffer NicFrenchy's problem to any notable extent, but there are obviously no awkward moments in getting a p4 p girl to leave your place after you fucked her and paid for the pleasure. On the other side, it's more difficult to in a polite way get a non-p4p girls to leave without hurting her feelings, after she fucked you because she liked you, so the former is easier.

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But on a related point, A lot of newbies go to a lot of trouble trying to either bypass hotel reception or to find a hotel that doesn't ask for the 'guest' to deposit their ID on the way in. I strongly recommend that you do get the girl to check in with reception first and take comfort in the fact that hotel or condo reception is watching out for you!

I speak from a couple of personal bad experiences. The obvious one is theft, but I've pulled a couple off dating sites that have turned out to be a bit deranged or psycho. One stalked me for a couple of days after our date including coming back into the hotel and trying to get up to my room. She tried a 2nd time telling the maid she had left the keycard inside. This was a couple of minutes after I left. The hotel staff caught her and threw her out but said she had clearly been watching for me to leave. They said that type of thing happens quite often to guests.

I was also in the NANA inn one day (the one with the 2nd building at the back with no security on the lift). An obvious ladyboy arrived at my door, quite aggressive clearly looking to get money out of me. It didn't bother me but at the same time it got me thinking, if 2 or 3 scammers arrived at the door there wasn't really anyone to call for help, there was no reception in that back building at all.[/QUOTE]Good point. Same for meeting the girl downstairs, rather than having her knock on your door and enter directly, perhaps before you've even realized it's not a girl.

What are the best massage parlors near soi cowboy or more specifically Hotel Carlton? Really hope once checked in, to get into it quickly. Also I've looked at some massage parlors that had websites / reviews that said they accept credit card. Is that safe or only use cash? In general what is everyone's thoughts (soapy, beer bars, gogo bar, etc) on credit cards?

[QUOTE=PgReal;2996565]You are contradicting yourself there slightly, you are successful with the dating sites, but easier to visit a MP. Just have an exit strategy ready when the girl arrives at your hotel or condo, tell up at the start, you need to work later or will be getting up dead early to go travelling. Some story in case you want to ditch her. I do agree after a couple of hours they become like clingy kids especially when they start getting hungry. I can't be doing with having to feed them, at that point it's here is a tip to buy yourself some food on your way home![/QUOTE]I don't see a contradiction at all, you will have to be more specific.

And, my point was that it's a lot easier to deal with P4P then to pull girls off of dating site, it's not hard to comprehend really, especially if you've dealt with regular girls.

I have been here over 2 decades (most my reviews are way too old to still be featured here) and with the growth of Dating sites (Tinder 100% for me) I've pulled Singaporeans, Taiwanese, Koreans, Philippines. And they are NOT going to come to your place, you have to put in the work to get them. My issue is once you get them there, it's equally as hard to get them to let go of you (contrary to Thai girls, they don't keep other guys on speed dial, to my experience anyway).

Thai girls are on another level, if you think the above were hard, Thais are more difficult, they make stories in their own heads, stalk your socials like crazy, post on them. Make a real drama about absolutely everything. Too much work and I am now too old to play these games.

Which is why I much prefer to mess with P4P, we both agree what each other wants out of this.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2996495]Many massage shops in Sukhumvit 22 (not the notorious nuru ones) will do that. Walk in and talk to the cashier / manager, tell her you want massage and Chuck-wow (or gesture hand). She will assign a girl that will do this. What you don't want is to go to these places and end up with the girl that does not offer any "special". (Some shops forbid it, but they know it happens).[/QUOTE]Only just noticed your response. Thanks.

I've been to a couple of places near Asok MTR station but no offer of extras. Will head down Sukhumvit Alley 22 later. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Doggus;2997135]Only just noticed your response. Thanks.

I've been to a couple of places near Asok MTR station but no offer of extras. Will head down Sukhumvit Alley 22 later. Thanks![/QUOTE]Virtually all shops in that area will agree to give you a simple HJ for an extra tip, but many will not take the initiative.

If they don't take the initiative, once you've rolled on to your back, when she's massaging the upper part of your legs, gently and slowly, put your hand on her hand. Wait a second or two, and as long as she does not pull her hand away in revulsion, proceed to, equally gently and slowly, nudge her hand towards your dick while giving her a wink and a smile if you like. Do all of this very gently, slowly, and softly, so she has ample of time to pull away if she's one of the very few in that area who is not interested in some extra money for a HJ.

As long as you're not a complete idiot, worst case scenario is she will say "cannot" or similar. Much more likely, she'll whisper "how much you give me? Just hold up five fingers to indicate 500, and that should be accepted by almost everyone for a simple HJ. Perhaps you can even negotiate it down to 300 too if you care. No need to tip anything more for the massage itself afterwards, if you've already paid for the "extra".

From a pricewise standpoint, it's always best to wait for her to offer the extras of course, but sometimes you need to be the one taking the initiative and make it clear what you want. Some of the girls may still be shy about taking the initiative, and some may even worry about getting an idiot customer who will complain about the offer.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2997437] worst case scenario is she will say "cannot" or similar[/QUOTE]To avoid this, wasting your time and preventing disappointment, it is best to ask the ladies sitting at the front "massage and special?" if they say no, move to the shop next door.

[QUOTE=TConor;2996718]I totally disagree, 2 k for 40 min. 1 shot? Great deal - 555. I found them to be clock watches and 80% of the pictured ladies are not there.[/QUOTE]So you thought the price was bad, but you agreed to it anyway?

I'm a regular there, never had a shortage of girls. Did you go during Songkran or something?

[QUOTE=RickRock;2997499]So you thought the price was bad, but you agreed to it anyway?

I'm a regular there, never had a shortage of girls. Did you go during Songkran or something?[/QUOTE]I my opinion with the limited selection I went else where. I have seen good reviews before, just not in my wheel house.

[QUOTE=ElDoradoNola83;2996919]What are the best massage parlors near soi cowboy or more specifically Hotel Carlton? Really hope once checked in, to get into it quickly. Also I've looked at some massage parlors that had websites / reviews that said they accept credit card. Is that safe or only use cash? In general what is everyone's thoughts (soapy, beer bars, gogo bar, etc) on credit cards?[/QUOTE]I never use credit cards in these places but also never heard of any foul play so I guess it's your call.

From the Carlton, I would say the closest massage (and I assume by best you mean for sex) is DOKI DOKI soi 31 (3 mn walk).

[URL]https://dokidokibangkok.com/girls/[/URL]

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2997455]To avoid this, wasting your time and preventing disappointment, it is best to ask the ladies sitting at the front "massage and special?" if they say no, move to the shop next door.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you are probably right about that. If all you want is a HJ, and you're not too shy about asking in front of others, asking something like "can do special also?" beforehand is a lot easier.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2997624]Yeah, you are probably right about that. If all you want is a HJ, and you're not too shy about asking in front of others, asking something like "can do special also?" beforehand is a lot easier.[/QUOTE]I've had the opposite problem in various small shops throughout Thailand. If I ask for "oil massage, no special" or "foot massage only", I sometimes get refused. Responses are sometimes "only do special massage" or "Will call freelancer to give foot massage." This includes places with the prices for standard massages posted on signs. Of course, the nicer places do massages without special, it's the little, sometimes grungy shops that might insist on special.

[QUOTE=ElDoradoNola83;2996919]What are the best massage parlors near soi cowboy or more specifically Hotel Carlton? Really hope once checked in, to get into it quickly. Also I've looked at some massage parlors that had websites / reviews that said they accept credit card. Is that safe or only use cash? In general what is everyone's thoughts (soapy, beer bars, gogo bar, etc) on credit cards?[/QUOTE]I'd say never use your credit card in any of these places. But that's just me. Whether it's a soapie, oilie, girlie bar, or any kind of establishment like that, I'd say just use cash. Cash is still very much king in Thailand. No way to trace it back to you. No fraud possible. You pay, services are rendered, and then you split. Easy peasy, lemon squeazy. Why risk any kind of information or overpayment via a credit card?

[QUOTE=ElDoradoNola83;2996919]What are the best massage parlors near soi cowboy or more specifically Hotel Carlton? Really hope once checked in, to get into it quickly. Also I've looked at some massage parlors that had websites / reviews that said they accept credit card. Is that safe or only use cash? In general what is everyone's thoughts (soapy, beer bars, gogo bar, etc) on credit cards?[/QUOTE]Never use credit or debit cards in these places.

Just pay cash have a good time.