Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;3073506] So you guys would recommend paying at the end. Will the girls accept that in theory the customer can scam the girls as well.

What would you do if the date left several hours earlier than planned? Make a scene at the hotel.[/QUOTE]Never pay in advance! And although this situation rarely arises with my Boate picks, the bottom line is I will end it if a girl does not accept my payment afterwards although in such situations I will try to be reasonable and go as far as showing her the money, even putting the cash on the nightstand to prove my intent, but if after all that, she still insists on payment first, then I show her the door.

Why? Because if you pay in advance, you are in effect creating a moral dilemma for some girls who will give you less because they have already been paid. Not all girls, maybe not even a majority of girls behave this way, but a significant proportion will underperform if you pay them in advance and who wants that?

In rare situations when a girl wants to leave early even though she agreed to an all-night / multiple shag session; let her! There is nothing you can do to convince her to stay and why would you want her to stay after making a BS move like that. BUT in such a situation I have given the girl proportionally less ie if the verbal contract was $$ for all night and at least 2 shags, I would give her $ half of the agreed amount for the service given. A few girls might try to make a fuss in the room. Don't argue or lose your temper. Simply pick up the phone and ask her if she wants security to come up and escort her out of the hotel or leave on her own accord. They will all choose to leave except for the psychos. KKK. But all this is very, very rare. In the 5 years since I have been visiting Brazil only a handful of girls have asked to be paid in advance, all escort girls (BTW), and of those 2 girls stormed out of my room incensed that I wouldn't pay in advance and 2 or 3 other girls accepted my "the money is on the nightstand / you can have it after we are done" compromise.

[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;3073506]Thanks for great reports my boy.

I'm going to Sampa in a while.

Have been to both Scandallo and Casarao. I found both of them to be f-ing awesome. Actually did find Casarao to be equally nice as Scandallo but cheaper. Scandallo is quite expensive but at the same time did not find the talent at the clinicas to be up to my standards and liking at all so will not go back to the clinicas.

Will definitely check out that MP app.

I want to fuck for free as well xD LOL.

One input regarding scamming in Casarao.

I fucked one onsite she was drunk as hell but a nice fuck! Had one toda la noite in my hotel, she was hot but scammed me. She left after 1.5-2 hours with me in the hotel. Even though we agreed on all nighter back in the club. *****, I had her real name before but I don't have it anymore. She was not worth it at all. Can't remember what I paid think it was between 1000-1200 .

To warn others.

So you guys would recommend paying at the end. Will the girls accept that in theory the customer can scam the girls as well.

What would you do if the date left several hours earlier than planned? Make a scene at the hotel.[/QUOTE]Have a plan to get her out of your room. Dudes spend more time planning to get her ass in than the plan to get her out. This month is preventing violence against women month. She can claim all sorts of shit to make a scene in your hotel & airbnb. She knows they have cameras in the hallways. Recording interactions.

Even if you are a fluent brasilian speaker a garota running, crying in front of your aurbnb apartment or hotel room aint a good look.

Famous quote with hoes. Ya pay them to go away. Charlie Sheen: "I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave. " is good advice when you in a difficult spot about he said-she said verbal agreements. Think of your options if you try to prevent her from leaving or she demands more money and refuses to leave.

I use love motels until garotas are vetted. They are used to crazy ass garotas, jealous brasilian wives tracking down their unfaithful spouses. Love motels phone you in the toom to make sure your alive, not cinderalla to get your ok. And can pay before they let the garota leave. Kkk.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3073549]I use love motels until garotas are vetted. They are used to crazy ass garotas, jealous brasilian wives tracking down their unfaithful spouses. Love motels phone you in the toom to make sure your alive, not cinderalla to get your ok. And can pay before they let the garota leave. Kkk.[/QUOTE]That phone call is a good incentive for the girl to think twice before any stupidity. Many have no issue drugging or robbing a foreigner. Places that make sure to call before allowing someone to leave make me feel safer and more comfortable. Still won't completely let my guard down but I can relax a little more knowing someone is watching out for me.

Understand, but the problem / issue here was that the garota wanted to leave the hotel waay too early.

I don't even remember when I paid her I think it was in the beginning in the room (my mistake).

She shouldve stayed several hours more. I should maybe paid her only the half of the amount.

But would you guys try to get back some dollars in that situation or let her scam you.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3073549]Have a plan to get her out of your room. Dudes spend more time planning to get her ass in than the plan to get her out. This month is preventing violence against women month. She can claim all sorts of shit to make a scene in your hotel & airbnb. She knows they have cameras in the hallways. Recording interactions.

Even if you are a fluent brasilian speaker a garota running, crying in front of your aurbnb apartment or hotel room aint a good look..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;3073572]Understand, but the problem / issue here was that the garota wanted to leave the hotel waay too early.

I don't even remember when I paid her I think it was in the beginning in the room (my mistake).

She shouldve stayed several hours more. I should maybe paid her only the half of the amount.

But would you guys try to get back some dollars in that situation or let her scam you.[/QUOTE]Once you give a girl the money, it's gone. KKK. She will never give it back! You might as well try to take a fresh kill away from a pride of female lions. So, let me remind you once again of mongering rule # 3: Never pay a FL, a SW, or an escort in advance! Only pay in advance in venues that require payment in advance like BKK Soapies. The difference is that in a high end classy soapy like La Belle, the customer is essentially relying on that specific venue's reputation and standing in the community, like in this example, La Belle, to guarantee a minimal level of acceptable performance from its employees. Not every session is going to be 4th of July no matter where you go, but every La Belle customer knows what the minimum is and is ok with it knowing that most of the time the girls exceed the minimum by a country mile, but in the off chance that your La Belle girl gets goofy in the room, all you have to do is go downstairs and talk to the manager. Thus, when you are with a independent contractor in your room, follow Rule #3 religiously or accept the fact that occasionally you will have negative consequences. It's all up to you. Do what works for you!

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3073594]Once you give a girl the money, it's gone. KKK. She will never give it back! You might as well try to take a fresh kill away from a pride of female lions. So, let me remind you once again of mongering rule # 3: Never pay a FL, a SW, or an escort in advance! Only pay in advance in venues that require payment in advance![/QUOTE]What I usually say to a girl who requests payment in advance is that she will be paid in the end after all services we have agreed to have been performed. If she continues to insist, then I will show her that I have the money. If that still isn't good enough, and if I really want her, then I will offer to pay half up front and the remainder at the end. And if she still isn't happy with that, then I have a choice to make. I can cave (so rare that I can't remember the last time I did that) or I can walk (also extremely rare because my compromise offers virtually always work). I have not found a strong correlation between girls who insist upon prepayment and scamming or poor performance. But if and when it does happen, as you say, you're going to be out the money. And complaining to management rarely ever works. Lastly, it should go without saying, but never send money to someone you don't know to arrange for a meetup later. It's just too easy to get defrauded doing that. By the way, what are your mongering rules #1 and #2? I know one of them has to be don't try to make a housewife out of a hoor LOL!

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3073594]Once you give a girl the money, it's gone. KKK. She will never give it back! You might as well try to take a fresh kill away from a pride of female lions. accept the fact that occasionally you will have negative consequences. It's all up to you. Do what works for you![/QUOTE]Had a close call refund episode at Casaro years ago. I posted refund experience on the forum.

It was a shorty curvy pale branca garota from MG. We agreed on BBBJ & CIM for 400 or 500 BRL (can't remember the exact amount).

She was drunk as hell from the strong whiskey pours and Hennessy drinks I was ordering.

She asked for the money upfront, I said: "Give me your high heel first. " I placed the cash on the table with her heel on top. The money was in sight, she couldn't just grab and dash. On one shoe.

I dropped trousers she got on her knees, opened her mouth widen for the service. I thought it was going to be great. When she reared her head back ready for the act, she let out a huge belch.

Fuck I jumped out of the way seconds before she started throwing up on the side of the bed. I asked, "Damn, what did you eat for lunch?" She apologized profusely, cleaned everything up, and offered to keep going.

Wtf I said no, the mood was gone and the room smelled unbearable.

She was embarrassed, apologized over and over, cleaned everything up, and even offered to keep going.

I told her, "Nah, sweetheart. The moment's gone, and the room smells like a hot dank sweaty hors house in summer heat with no AC. ".

She quietly got dressed, looked at the money on the table, grabbed her red high heel and said, "Keep it for next time. ".

Then she walked out without taking a single centavo.

We never met again, and I never saw her back at Casaro.

So technically it wasn't a refund since she never took the money in the first place but it's the closest I've ever come to getting my dough back.

Nowadays I've got a different strategy on the infrequent occasion paying in cash. I prefer to use card payment. But if we agree on, say, are $450 for an hour. I'll hand over are $500 and immediately say:

"Now give me my are $50 brl change. ".

And no. You're not paying it back in "extra time" or "extras. " I want my are $50 in cash. No Pix. 😂 I will wait. Kkk.

Have you guys gotten change back? I even had a garota write out a receipt on back of torn up little notebook paper to show she gave me cash back as change.

Damn fun tines with young newbie garotas from the interior,. At casarao.

[QUOTE=Bliadun;3072749]Seattle Turismo, trusted place for currency exchange in SP is closed. Went there on Monday, the entrance was shut. According to Google Maps it should be open.

Further search showed that they shut down because of high rent. Found a new place, Getmoney at Patio Paulista, their rate was 5. 12 (midmarket 5. 19), R$ 10,000 limit per day.[/QUOTE]Thanks for update. I always liked the Seattle Turismo. Hoping to visit them during my next month visit.

There is a currency exchange place on the 5th floor of Moema mall. If I remember correctly, they gave same exchange rate as Seattle Turismo. But they require a passport for identification.

[QUOTE=Bliadun;3072749]Seattle Turismo, trusted place for currency exchange in SP is closed. Went there on Monday, the entrance was shut. According to Google Maps it should be open.

Further search showed that they shut down because of high rent. Found a new place, Getmoney at Patio Paulista, their rate was 5. 12 (midmarket 5. 19), R$ 10,000 limit per day.[/QUOTE]Thanks for update. I always liked the Seattle Turismo. Hoping to visit them during my next month visit.

There is a currency exchange place on the 5th floor of Moema mall. If I remember correctly, they gave same exchange rate as Seattle Turismo. But they require a passport for identification.

Just wanted to say thanks, guys.

Big thanks to senior members like Tochka, The Cane, OkSwimmer5517, Steve9696, Vagabundo1, SocratesNY and plenty of others.

Really appreciate you taking the time to post your experiences and answer all the questions from us newbs. You guys have saved a lot of us from making expensive mistakes and getting ourselves into bad situations.

If I run into any of you on my September trip to Sao Paulo, first round is on me.

[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3073825]Thanks for update. I always liked the Seattle Turismo. Hoping to visit them during my next month visit.

There is a currency exchange place on the 5th floor of Moema mall. If I remember correctly, they gave same exchange rate as Seattle Turismo. But they require a passport for identification.[/QUOTE]If you need foreign exchange on a weekend, Get Money Exchsnge Houses inside Shopping Ibirapuera mall has been reliable for me.Their published rates are on their website, and they're generally open during the mall's operating hours on Saturdays and Sundays.

One thing to know before you go: they operate much like an airport exchange counter. They require your original physical passportnot a photo on your phone and not a photocopy. If you read the online reviews, a lot of the complaints are from people who showed up without the original document and were turned away.

Get Money Exchange Houses, in Moema inside Shopping Ibirapuera Avenida Ibirapuera, 3103, Av. Moaci, 147 - Indianpolis, So Paulo. SP, 04088-005.

Their rate [URL]www.getmoney.com.br[/URL].

They are open Saturday & Sunday 10 to 7 or 8 pm. Or whatever hours are the shopping mall.

They operate like an airport exchange place requiring physical passport.

Original passport document, not ID on phone or copies. Reviews online bitterly complain about this mandatory ID check.

There is a bunch of paperwork receipts to sign, bunch of back and forth paperwork. I would always ask them for an envelope to put my money as a holder until I get back to apartment airbnb.

Expect a fair amount of paperwork. There are multiple receipts and forms to sign before everything is finished.

I always ask them for one of their envelopes to hold the cash until I get back to my apartment.

Once I leave the exchange, I'm carrying three things I don't want to lose: a wad of reais, my original passport, and my iPhone hanging from a lanyard.

That means it's a direct trip home.

No detours.

No "I'll just stop somewhere for five minutes. ".

No wandering into a spa or CLnica because someone I know happens to be working that shift. No stopping by clinica prime or the newly opened private clinca spa by appointment only near kalungs, no stopping by buddah spa, or going to Kalunga to buy electroinixs, no stopping by the sex shop across the street from Shoping Ibirapuera to pickup chiclet & strawberry flavored deep throat spray because blonde chubby Milly, Tabitha & Anny are damn pros with proven track record to sloppy slurp deep non stop for two hours. If you buy them flavored deep throat spray. Kkk.

No impulse shopping at Kalunga. (shit product quality).

I've learned the hard way that mixing a pocket full of cash with drinking & distractions is a bad combination. First secure the money and passport back at the Airbnb.

That's become one of my personal rules for Brazil:

Exchange cash. Go straight home. Lock everything up. Then go enjoy the afternoon.

It has saved me from unnecessary stress more than once.

I'm here for a month in SP and needed a local number so I can keep my lives (US vs Traveler) separate. Bought a cheap burner phone from amazon and brought it down with me. For those that want to get a prepaid number (3 R for sim and 200 R for 12 GB data) I went to Vivo in JKIguatemi. Ask for Renan and he will take care of it for you. You will need your passport. Process took about 15 minutes and I was out the door. To recharge, you can go to Oxxo, farmacia or a branch. I'll post my report later as I get settled into SP. Cliff hanger: I just banged a Victoria Secret Supermodel (Adriana Lima) look a like last night and have a date with her today.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;3074152]I'm here for a month in SP and needed a local number so I can keep my lives (US vs Traveler) separate. Bought a cheap burner phone from amazon and brought it down with me. For those that want to get a prepaid number (3 R for sim and 200 R for 12 GB data) I went to Vivo in JKIguatemi. Ask for Renan and he will take care of it for you. You will need your passport. Process took about 15 minutes and I was out the door. To recharge, you can go to Oxxo, farmacia or a branch. I'll post my report later as I get settled into SP. Cliff hanger: I just banged a Victoria Secret Supermodel (Adriana Lima) look a like last night and have a date with her today.[/QUOTE]Just FYI for anyone else in this situation, Vivo now offers a tourist e-SIM for 30 days for like $11. I had to jump through hoops to get a physical sim the last time I was here, but it was deactivated for inactivity since it's been a bit. The new tourist plan was incredibly quick and easy to setup.

[URL]https://vivo.com.br/para-voce/produtos-e-servicos/para-o-celular/tourist-plan[/URL]

[QUOTE=JZeleznik;3074180]Just FYI for anyone else in this situation, Vivo now offers a tourist e-SIM for 30 days for like $11. I had to jump through hoops to get a physical sim the last time I was here, but it was deactivated for inactivity since it's been a bit. The new tourist plan was incredibly quick and easy to setup.

[URL]https://vivo.com.br/para-voce/produtos-e-servicos/para-o-celular/tourist-plan[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you. Looks like much better option than activating google fi and keeping it up for 3 months.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3066101]I did 2 trips recently just 1 week apart. 1st trip Brazil for 1 week and 2nd Germany for 4 days. I lost count but I fucked almost 40 girls in these 2 trips.

Where do I begin oh boy there is a lot to unpack.

Let's start with Brazil. The city is Sao Paulo, it's a major hub largest city with max population in Latin America and world cuisine, gourmet food, michellin star restaurants. And of course ultra modern luxurious sex entertainment.

I'll try my best to break down the scene in Brazil. It is mind blowing. Girls are a fucking 10/10. Great service with Brazilian passion and DFK.

There are 3 spots which I primarily visit all of them are nightclubs or "Boates" in Portuguese.

Scandallo. Biggest and the largest and the most famous venue. 150+ beautiful girls, dressed up and ready to go for romp, white table cloth restaurant, uber luxurious hotel for sexxyy time, lawn garden for smoking outdoor area, Live bands playing music, Brazilian professional events with well known artists. Pricing for 1 HR - 200 EUR for the girl + 50 EUR for the hotel. 250460...[/QUOTE]Sorry for such a basic question, but what are these currency amounts?