Jakarta

[QUOTE=HappyFarang;3023408]After focusing on Lokasari and reading Gaijin Gigolo's posts, it's starting to look more and more interesting. The only question would be: bring them to my hotel, or go to the filthy short-time hotel.

What are some decent cheap long term (as in months) accommodations in Lokasari / Kota Indah / Classic area? Someone mentioned a 140 k AirBnB but I only see hotels.

Would it be possible to rent actual flats and pay monthly?[/QUOTE]Try [URL]Travelio.com[/URL] and you'the find more options on Tiket and Traveloka as opposed to AirBnb.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;3023401]Girl friends are expensive than wife. Paid sex is the cheapest and tension free.[/QUOTE]I get the point you're making, and I agree to some extent. But if we're talking about wanted sex and weighing cost, experience, and consistency, sugar babies come out on top. You get regular, high-quality sex, minimal drama, and a clear understanding of expectations. It's transactional, yes, but there's usually effort on both sides to maintain the arrangement, which makes the experience more enjoyable.

Girlfriends come next. They can actually be more expensive in the long run because the costs are ongoing and undefined. Gifts, dinners, trips. And there's always emotional management involved. But there's real connection, and the sex is usually passionate and wanted.

Wives are hit or miss. Early in the relationship, sex might be consistent, but over time it often slows down or becomes conditional. And while the cost is more "lifestyle-based," it's not cheap emotionally or financially. Sex becomes less about desire and more about timing, mood, and circumstances.

Also, if you're someone who prefers full, bareback sex and finishing inside, you're almost guaranteed that with sugar babies. Then girlfriends. Then, depending on the dynamics, maybe your wife. With prostitutes, it's rarely on the table unless you pay significantly more. And even then, it depends on her mood and how you handle it.

So if you factor in quality, consistency, cost, and overall satisfaction, sugar babies offer the best return on investment.

[QUOTE=EdAdams;3023345]Two nights ago, I met this "potential" Sugar Baby on Happn. Now, normally I'm a stickler, I always get a clear idea of expectations before meeting. But this time? Nope. Skipped it entirely. Rookie mistake. She teased me with a cream pie offer, and I instantly switched to the wrong headspace, completely missing the all-important question.

Lesson learned? Don't skip your process. It's all about sifting through the chaff, because sometimes you're looking for sugar, and all you get is a walking over-entitled prima donna.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you were able to lose her quickly, because it usually doesn't stop with just the girl, you will soon find yourself paying for her friends and family too. If I genuinely like the girl and the overall vibe, I don't mind treating them to a nice dinner or going to a club once in a while. The problem is, most of them end up bringing unnecessary drama and leaving you feeling used.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;3023347]In my first trip I selected a lady, she clearly told me CBJ is the rule of the house, I then spoke to her mami as well as others and they all confirmed the same. Since then I have never re-visited this establishment, although many punters here confirmed they got BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Thank you SuperLove for that explanation. Cheers!

[QUOTE=EdAdams;3023412]I'm with you on that one. 100%! In this case, I had made it very clear that I'm looking for a sugar baby. And while I did ask her a couple of times what her expectations were she was reluctant to answer. I guess her strategy was to meet me first and try her luck to extract the most out of me. I'm guessing I must have given her that impression. It must be some sugar allowance maximisation strategy used by seasoned pro sugar babies from seeking. I've had at least 20+ sugar babies in the last 8/9 months I've been here. And never encountered such an amusing character. I guess there's a first time for everything. And honestly, what the hell is even free sex? I don't think anything is free. It's just different mode of payment. You either pay with your money or you take her shopping or you invest your time and energy, effort and emotions. Sex with a sugar baby, however, is hands down the best sex one can ever have. It's relatively safer in terms of diseases, more cost-effective if you know how to play it right. No I'm not talking about those seasoned professionals who are on seeking! There are plenty of civvies and university girls in Jakarta who would happily accept a regular monthly allowance of 5 to 6 jt. As opposed to slogging their arse off as a barista in Starbucks or as a waitress. Obviously getting that requires time and effort. But it's totally worth it and in terms of experience, nothing beats shagging a teen Hijabi girl who has skipped college to service daddy all day. It honestly doesn't get better than that! So far I've managed to pull them through direct approach in malls, cafes and the hotel I'm at and the local Starbucks.[/QUOTE]Your post reminded me, 2-3 years ago I managed to convince uni student to spend a week with me in Bali.

Arrived in Jakarta, bump in one of the coffee shop in Taman Anggrek, she is Indo Chinese who studying in the uni nearby. It was her last year in Uni and doing final thesis. My first week, I casually invite her with lunch, dinner, bar hopping, movies, build relationships, etc. Then I asked her to accompany me to Bali for relaxing. Total cost $1. 5 k covers her daily fee of 1 juta, airfare for both, food, small villa with plunge pool, attractions like beach clubs, bar, jimbaran seafood, monkey forest, ubud sights seeing, etc.

We fugg like crazy, from pool, jacuzzi, kitchen, pretty much every corner in that villa. Even writing about it make me want to revisit it back again. Too bad she have boyfriend and engage now.

[QUOTE=EdAdams;3023345]Two nights ago, I met this "potential" Sugar Baby on Happn. Now, normally I'm a stickler, I always get a clear idea of expectations before meeting. But this time? Nope. Skipped it entirely. Rookie mistake. She teased me with a cream pie offer, and I instantly switched to the wrong headspace, completely missing the all-important question.

So I say, "Alright, go on. " She deadpans, "Buy me a Hermes bag. " I paused, then said, "F Off. " Because seriously, if you think I'm your personal luxury mall, you're delusional. Then she goes with her rant, "I spend 35-40 million a month. Cover that, and I'm yours. ".

At that point, I suggested she retire for the evening, in her own bed and off she bounced, Grab'ing to the butt of Tangerang South like it was a royal exit.
[/QUOTE]OMG. How would one even be able to keep a straight face when talking with her after that? The taxi fee would almost be worth it just for the laugh.

[QUOTE=EdAdams;3023414]Try [URL]Travelio.com[/URL] and you'the find more options on Tiket and Traveloka as opposed to AirBnb.[/QUOTE]Thanks EdAdams, Travelio looks good with the monthly options. I used Traveloka once, also very good but I didn't see flats rented monthly, good for hotels.

Tiket is new, thanks.

[QUOTE=Dickaprio;3023258]Please use the link below to refer the map shared by Gaijin Gigolo with some purple markings.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=3004282&viewfull=1[/URL]#post3004282.

Hopefully this helps. Cheers.[/QUOTE]To find Lokasari without the map you just look for the biggest, most gigantic, scab covered rats you have ever seen leaping up out of the drains and the holes in the footpath. You will be in the neighbourhood.

Would the recent protests happening affect anything? Is it safe to be in the city with them going on?

[QUOTE=BrandNewMonge;3023596]Would the recent protests happening affect anything? Is it safe to be in the city with them going on?[/QUOTE]Yep, the protests are making commuting in a Grab SOOOO much easier. Today, the roads were pretty clear at 7:30 pm when I returned from Classic to GI mall. Normally this journey would have taken 30 minutes, but today it was less than 15. No traffic at all. And even in the daytime, whilst I was in the gym, I noticed a lack of people there. I saw the same yesterday when there were protests too.

I've never seen Jakarta roads so commutable.

I think locals are staying at home "because of the protests" and the roads / malls are way less congested as a result. Best time to in Jakarta, as far as I'm concerned.

Oh, BTW, I banged a couple of new girls in Classic T2 day. Both gave great service. I've gotten the wattsapp of one of them, and will make a private arrangement with her to visit me in my appartment.

[QUOTE=Fudimaar;3023622]Yep, the protests are making commuting in a Grab SOOOO much easier. Today, the roads were pretty clear at 7:30 pm when I returned from Classic to GI mall. Normally this journey would have taken 30 minutes, but today it was less than 15. No traffic at all. And even in the daytime, whilst I was in the gym, I noticed a lack of people there. I saw the same yesterday when there were protests too.

I've never seen Jakarta roads so commutable.

I think locals are staying at home "because of the protests" and the roads / malls are way less congested as a result. Best time to in Jakarta, as far as I'm concerned.

Oh, BTW, I banged a couple of new girls in Classic T2 day. Both gave great service. I've gotten the wattsapp of one of them, and will make a private arrangement with her to visit me in my appartment.[/QUOTE]

Jakarta with no traffic does sound good!

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;3023775]Well people are protesting for a reason and some people got run-over by a police car so wishing more protests is a clear indicator of selfish and childish behaviour. Wait until they declare martial law and then nobody will go anywhere.[/QUOTE]I bet you're a lot of fun at parties.

[QUOTE=Fudimaar;3023813]I bet you're a lot of fun at parties.[/QUOTE]I'm actually but when people tell nonsense BS you have to tell them.

[QUOTE=BrandNewMonge;3023596]Would the recent protests happening affect anything? Is it safe to be in the city with them going on?[/QUOTE]I have a trip scheduled for Sept 12-21. Is it safe to come? Are the clubs like Classic and Travel open for business?

Any information provided will be great.

Thanks in advance to my bros out there. Stay safe!

[QUOTE=ParSeeker;3023905]Any information provided will be great.[/QUOTE]Protests are getting very violent, some videos are showing a couple of cops being lynched to death.