Manila

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3031903]

I think you'll find you'll have a lot more immediate options logging into Pina Love when you arrive and at a much better price, especially for over-nighters and long time options.

[/QUOTE]The online escort sites are typically the same girls anyway. Just a subset of the bar girls with shorter bookings and higher prices.

The exception would be the Members or VIP sections that do have stunning girls but at eye watering prices. 25 k per hour isn't unusual. There will be some form of sign-up to the site to even see them. Regular girls are 5 k and up per hour.

G.

[QUOTE=Jimmyzhu;3031892]What was the duration? 1 hour? What do you think is the possibility of arranging something outside their working times?[/QUOTE]Typically Filippinas are not clock watchers. However, unfortunately, massage houses do charge by the hour so they do watch how long the girls are taking regardless of if it's a legit massage or has extras.

Most massage shops have an in room option for a two hour minimum and what happens in your room is between the two of you. Note that some hotels have their own spas so don't allow outside masseuses inside so check first.

Some girls will pass on their number to meet out of hours. It does happen but it's not a certainty. Some girls won't or some shops don't allow it and monitor where the girls are.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3031965]The online escort sites are typically the same girls anyway. Just a subset of the bar girls with shorter bookings and higher prices.

The exception would be the Members or VIP sections that do have stunning girls but at eye watering prices. 25 k per hour isn't unusual. There will be some form of sign-up to the site to even see them. Regular girls are 5 k and up per hour.

G.[/QUOTE]I'm "friends", as much as you can be with the 2 best looking girls from 123 in AC, for many years now, Niki and Eva, they are sweet, but hard pros. They advertise on multiple platforms, and while in the bar, that's what they are constantly scrolling on their phones, not tiktok like the rest of the girls, and because of their status in the bar, and no mamasan affiliation, they can come and go to their liking. We used to go to Megadance, even during their shift at 123, and while I was the forward base with the beers on the table, they were constantly scanning the dance floor for potential victims, or going back and forward to 123, many of their friends were joining us at our table, all good looking. I had guys asking me on many occasions, "man! What's your deal hanging around with so many beauties?" I wasn't even paying for the drinks.

So here you have a perfect, verified example of the same girls moving around in all the markets, street, bar, club, online.

I said they were sweet, because lots of times with one or both we ended up in my apartment, where they liked to rummage thru my fridge, that was always full of food, then fuck afterwards, no money.

This year I didn't see them around no more, probably somebody "wifed" them.

Because they were at ease around me, I can tell you that they were as sophisticated as any western women, expensive skin lotions, spa treatments, hair salons, sexy, but not trashy clothes, knew how to act in a restaurant, and weirdly, if staying at my place overnight on Saturday, they always went to church Sunday morning.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3032324]Niki and Eva, they are sweet, but hard pros...

This year I didn't see them around no more, probably somebody "wifed" them.[/QUOTE]No harm in that. I actually enjoy girls who unashamedly know their role and are good at it. Saves so many mind games.

Save A Hoe's always piss me off. Years ago, I had the ideal set up: dated a hooker; when I was in town, she stayed with me and rocked my world cash free; when I was away, it was don't ask don't tell on both sides. After I took her on a holiday for a week, some fuckwit got jealous, married her and wisked her off to Vietnam. That put and end to a good thing for me.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3032335]No harm in that. I actually enjoy girls who unashamedly know their role and are good at it. Saves so many mind games.

Save A Hoe's always piss me off. Years ago, I had the ideal set up: dated a hooker; when I was in town, she stayed with me and rocked my world cash free; when I was away, it was don't ask don't tell on both sides. After I took her on a holiday for a week, some fuckwit got jealous, married her and wisked her off to Vietnam. That put and end to a good thing for me..[/QUOTE]There was a friend of a friend who was sexy as hell. She would tease me but never did anything because she had a foreigner BF. One day she approaches me and says she will blow and fuck me! Unbeknownst to me she had broken up with her BF for a few months. For a few months we fucked off and on. Then one day she says she is back with him and she can only blow me! 4 months later she is married to him and off to Europe she goes.

I found quite a few bargirls just doing drinks only and staying loyal to their foreigner BF.

I wish I had the luck you fellas have. Bit worried that I will not be able to find anyone in Manila. Woe is me.

70 lb-er has moved her hand down. . . There. . .

What does that mean!?

She got them cute fossae zambales thingys also.

The see**t who ripped me off three weeks' ago at my hotel in Malate, showed up on Telegram so I thought I'd have some fun and send her to a dummy booking out at the airport, where I was staying supposedly. Early on in the chat I told her my hotel, then after numerous other messages and different photos than she'd sent me on my previous real booking, I edited the hotel name to another one near the airport. She didn't even realise and said 'I made a mistake' and apologised. So off she trots to hotel number two. Up to the room, which she told me didn't exist. Oh, what a pity! Was I being a bit of a see**t too? Probably. Felt like a bit of a re-balancing of the scales, anyway.

edit. the starred word begins with a 'c' not 'see'. weird auto-correction...

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3032550]Felt like a bit of a re-balancing of the scales, anyway.[/QUOTE]Dang shame that happened to her MM. Unfortunate.

There is often a feeling that grifters get away with everything, especially in a foreign country. But they on occasion pay a price like the one above. The occasional arrest, incarceration, or a beat-down from an angry client whom she stole from*. Persons in such biz mark it up as a cost of doing biz. The grifter's occasional financial or time loss. If the grifter him / her self gets grifted or loses money on the endeavor (ie, the client wises up and turns the tables), they are not gnashing their teeth; they are just waiting for the next attempt to grift.

Many illicit activities are this way. On occasion we see that the government in your country has seized a large shipment of drugs, worth in the millions of dollars on the street. LE will take a victory lap, claiming that the drugs are off the street, and the cartels face a financial calamity. It feels good, but its not really true. Correct in that the drugs are (temporarily) off the street, but incorrect on the amount of money that the cartel has lost, and does not mention how easy it is for the cartel to reproduce the bad act. As drugs have high markup value (profit), the cartel only loses the actual expenses of producing and transporting the product (considerably less than the millions of street dollars that they might have brought to the cartel). The small cost or reproducing / re-transporting new product will be recouped in the next successful shipment. LE and the media rarely discuss this.

Grifting is much the same way. Mongering is not unlike this: You must expect negative experiences sometimes, they are the cost of the endeavor.

* Do [B]NOT[/B] do this.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3032550]edit. the starred word begins with a 'c' not 'see'. weird auto-correction...[/QUOTE]A be see the E F G H I J K L M and O P Q are S T you V W X why Z.

Now you can see what the autocorrect does to each letter. You can fix it once you post it, by editing the post, then click Save Changes. See below:

C = see.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3032575]A be see the E F G H I J K L M and O P Q are S T you V W X why Z.

Now you can see what the autocorrect does to each letter. You can fix it once you post it, by editing the post, then click Save Changes. See below:

C = see.[/QUOTE]Thanks WC for the edit tip.

BTW if anyone wants to send the 'see you en tea' on a fruitless outcall, drop me a message for her number!

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3032613]Thanks WC for the edit tip.

BTW if anyone wants to send the 'see you en tea' on a fruitless outcall, drop me a message for her number![/QUOTE]My two missions in life: 1) Vax all the ladies; and 2) Get all the ladies to say to me: "Useful Tip".

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3032550]The see**t who ripped me off three weeks' ago at my hotel in Malate, showed up on Telegram so I thought I'd have some fun and send her to a dummy booking out at the airport, where I was staying supposedly. Early on in the chat I told her my hotel, then after numerous other messages and different photos than she'd sent me on my previous real booking, I edited the hotel name to another one near the airport. She didn't even realise and said 'I made a mistake' and apologised. So off she trots to hotel number two. Up to the room, which she told me didn't exist. Oh, what a pity! Was I being a bit of a see**t too? Probably. Felt like a bit of a re-balancing of the scales, anyway.

edit. the starred word begins with a 'c' not 'see'. weird auto-correction...[/QUOTE]I like it. Please repeat it a few more times.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3032615]My two missions in life: 1) Vax all the ladies; and 2) Get all the ladies to say to me: "Useful Tip".[/QUOTE]LOL.

Just the tip, as F Zappa used to say.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3032560] Mongering is not unlike this: You must expect negative experiences sometimes, they are the cost of the endeavor. [/QUOTE]And a great learning experience Westie.

From the newcomers, to the experienced, we will always get learn from the 'mistakes' we have made.

Over time, I've found that the best approach is to be the boss, name the price and call the shots. In a nice way.

If they don't agree, I'll move on to the next cutie who will.

Not really surprising that when you give one 'the flick', all of a sudden they message you wanting to catch up.

By that stage, I've generally moved on to a better option.

_Phil.

I'll be staying in BGC and *might* need the services of a WG in a massage shop (I am disappointed by the in-call bait and switchers, and their attitude) if my other efforts fall through. I know it's a pretty upscale area, and that even in Makati massage shops are usually clean, but are there any sex-positive shops in BGC where I can see my girl before I pick her and pretend to get a massage in a private on-site room?