Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=Quackup; 1297771]If you read any of my previous reports you will see I usually pay $600. 00mx. Hong Kong lately is a whole different ball-game. The last few times I have been going into Hong Kong, the chicas were asking for $90. 00usd. Now if you think because I paid one chica $70. 00, the whole money balance is out of whack, think again. There must be alot of guys paying the higher price otherwise these chicas wouldn't be shooting this high.

That's why is good to have an atf. With my atf. I usually give her $100. 00 USD. That is for the whole night with multiple sessions. Sorry if you think I cause the higher prices for everyone.[/QUOTE]

Yes, one swallow does not a summer make. And one overpayment isn't driving up prices across the board. And I, as the self-appointed Nabob of Chica Inflation Prevention, give you a special dispensation for this one pecadillo, given your sterling record of always using 600mx as your benchmark. :D

However, this is a good object lesson in supply / demand for any newbies perusing this fine forum. Here are the facts in our scenario:

1. This is Mexico, and everything is negotiable. In fact, dickering is a national sport.

2. It's Monday, and Mondays are slow.

3. It's so slow, that, after wandering around for 15 minutes, the chica in question still hasn't found a mark and returns to Mr. Q.

OK. Mr. Q, out of kindness and generosity, opens the negotiations at $60. Given the above facts, this is a very fair offer. Our chica spurns his generosity and counters with $80. (if this is her first day on the job, then it's snowing in Bangkok).

Now, the hard-core capitalist response is to counter with $50, pointing out that business is slow, your offer is time-limited and you're losing interest. The kinder, gentler capitalist will just stick firmly with $60. The newbie, thinking with his little head, will cave.

So, what are the possible outcomes of our excercise in naked capitalism? The chica can leave. Maybe she doesn't need the money because she gets $100 from every guy who walks in the door. In that case, you're better off. Mr. Q's had a good time, but, in Tijuana, price rarely equates to good performance, and, in fact, it's often the opposite. Or, the chica agrees and stays. In that case, you've saved enough to buy a shitload of beer. She may or may not be a starfish in bed, but at least it didn't cost you an arm and a leg to find out.

So, boys and girls, what's our take-away from this?

1. Always use pesos whenever possible
2. Never accept the first offer, unless it's ridiculously low. Then grab it before she can change her mind. :)
3. Remember that supply (chicas) always exceeds demand (customers). If you can't come to terms, kick her loose. There's another behind her waiting.
4. Never pay above the going rate, unless you have, personally, seen her suck a golf ball through 6 feet of garden hose.

I recently read an advertisement in the help wanted section of the Tijuana daily rag. It was run by Hong Kong seeking working girls. The ad specifically said that you can earn $80 in half hour sessions. That is why the newer ones always ask for $80. When I ask them how much for an hour they will usually say $100. So if I don't feel like dickering (I usually like to dicker) I will do an hour session as $100 is what I normally pay for an hour with non favorites. Like Quackup $100 goes a long way with my favorites.

I had a threesome with new girls Jaciel and Vany at Hongkong. I have had threesome before but this was amazing as it was full on Lesbian and both the girls are really into each other and was an ultimate PSE. Went to HongKong at around 4PM. There was a shaving cream show going on and there were 2 young girls playing with each other. Jaciel (That's what she told her name is) is early 20's, Brunette, great ass, cute face and around 5'5 height and Vany is Blonde early 20's, curvy with small tits. Both the girls are from Guadalajara. It was an intense leabian show with both girls kissing and licking each other's pussy. Gave away few dollar bills and cuddled with them. I asked mesero to bring Jaciel to me after she is finished with the show. Mesero brought Jaciel to me after half an hour. Her English was poor but she can understand if spoken slowly. Ordered drinks for her. Asked her how much she and her friend charges together. She said it is $160 / hhr for 2 girls. I said $120 but she didn't agree and said if it is $150 it's OK. I negotiated to $150 / hr and both the girls have to stay for one full hour with me. I asked her If I can I lick their pussies and kiss them. She said OK, no problem.

She went upstairs and brought her friend. Went to hotel Cascadas. Paid $30 as hotel fees. Sorted out the financials and all of us got naked. Asked both the girls to eat each other and I will watch for some time. They started playing with each other with DFK and finering each other pussies. I could not control and jumped into the action. Had both the girls bent over in doggie and licked each other's pussy one after the other. Only Jaciel was doing DFK with me and Vany refused to kiss on her lips. Put on condom and both the girls started giving CBJ taking turns on my cock. Later Vany was sucking my cock and Jaciel sit on my head and I was eating her pussy. Vany later put my cock inside her and started fucking in cowgirl position while Jaciel was still sitting on my head. After some time both the girls switched position. Had both the girls bend over in Doggie and slided from one pussy to another and came after 10 min. I felt like I was in some porn movie. This was mindblowing experience. It didn't last one hour but both girls spent around 50 min with me. Took Jaciel's number and told her will meet again when I am in Tiguana next time.

It's been many years since I've gone across the border. About 6-7 years.

So I trekked down to the border and parked my car at the motel next to the Jack in the Box. You can't beat $4 for parking knowing it would be safe. Like most has said in past post, it's better to park on the east side and take the walk across the I-5 freeway to the west side to cross into Tijuana than to come back and have a long walk back to your car on the west side. So, I crossed around 8:30pm. It was a very quiet retreat across without any problem whatsoever. Got to the taxi area and hopped in and was at Hong Kong Night Club within 5 minutes.

Walked in and was quite surprise to see several stunners that I would of loved to get with but wanted to have a few rounds before I get 'Johnny' going. In fact, a couple beauties approached me and let me have a great feel of all their parts. All for my dollar. I was tempted to take one of them quickly upstairs but I wasn't ready.

Met a cool local guy at Hong Kong and had a couple of rounds with him. He said he's been coming to the scene at least once every week. He said it's been a while since he's come out on a Wednesday night and was quite surprise with the variety of ladies last night. He was saying to scope the club and go to Adelita's to do the same before taking one upstairs.

After a few rounds, we decided to take a look at what Adelita's had to offer. Either all the beautiful ladies were upstairs with other mongers or it was not the night to go there. I saw only a one or two stunners there but that's about it. The vibe was so different as well as the atmosphere. Hong Kong played better music and as if you were at a wild party whereas Adelita's was mellow and slow. I was in a partying mood so I wanted to get back to Hong Kong. So after I finished my beer, I decided to head back to Hong Kong. My new buddy had to work early early the next morning so he took off.

At Hong Kong, I headed to the around and was there just in time for the Shave Cream Lez show. Which of the two, one was stunning. The two were into each other and aroused the crowd. They performed well. After watching them for about 15 minutes, I decided it was time to get a beauty upstairs for 'Johnny' to release his stress. I was approached by some nice ones and a couple of them wanted. 80 from the start. Sent them packing.

After a walk around the place, I saw a stunner dancing at one of the small booth tables in the back. Approached her and decided she would be the one. Her name is Diana from Cancun. She was gorgeous. And 'Johnny' was ready. Chatted with her for a little bit and she mentioned that she had just started working her shift. I asked her if she wanted to go upstairs. She wanted. 70 but told her I'the take her up for. 60. She agreed and off we went. At the hotel, they wanted. 16 which I thought it was. 12 but, oh well. Paid the clerk and off we went.

Room was pretty decent compared to places I've been to in the Philippines. It was pretty nice and Diana was ready for the deed. We undressed and she laid down and we started getting down. I fondled her and she got 'Johnny' up and alert. She slipped on the cover and was down on 'Johnny' then she got up and did cowgirl for several minutes. She felt great. Told her to do reverse cowgirl and had her riding me really good. Had to slow her down so I can admire her nice ass. Afterwards, I had to do her doggie and pounded her til 'Johnny' released his stress. Hahahahaa. Diana performed well and I would do her again.

Happy Mongering and will be there next week.

Phordphan : Thanks for the great example. It should help alot of members on board.

Joe : Thanks for posting the advertisement for the girls. My Spanish is limited so I would never have read the article. Yet this ad. Does explain alot, especially since I have been pondering a couple of questions.

First, why all of a sudden did the price go up so high? I have been coming down south for a long time now and before when there was an increase in rate, it was a slow gradual change. Basically ten dollars at a time and this is over a long period of time. First bar I went to was Chicago. At that time it was $30. 00usd for a session. Maybe 8 to 10 years later, it went up another $10. 00 USD. And when the price did go up. It would only be a handful of ladies asking the higher price. I think all the other girls were waiting to see if the girls would get the higher asking price. Hence, the slow increase of price.

So with your ad, it makes sense, mgmt. Is behind the price increase. Unfortunately, since it is mgmt behind it, they will ingrain this price structure to all their girls which will make bargaining more difficult. It can still be done, but I'am sure it will be more hassle. At least now, when the girl starts at $80. 00. $90. 00 USD, instead of getting mad, I know where they are coming from.

The second question I had. Why does H. K. Have the majority of the hot girls? Again, the ad answers this question. With the higher payout, most girl will be lured in.

Also, I know all the clubs have their hotties, but it seems that H. K. Has the most at any given time.

With all that said, hopefully since I believe L. C. And T. B. Are owned by the same owners as H. K, hopefully they don't try to raise the prices in these other clubs.

Don't worry guys, my next report will be back to the chicas. Hopefully in a week or two.

[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1298019]Yes, one swallow does not a summer make. And one overpayment isn't driving up prices across the board. And I, as the self-appointed Nabob of Chica Inflation Prevention, give you a special dispensation for this one pecadillo, given your sterling record of always using 600mx as your benchmark. .

However, this is a good object lesson in supply / demand for any newbies perusing this fine forum. Here are the facts in our scenario:

1. This is Mexico, and everything is negotiable. In fact, dickering is a national sport.

2. It's Monday, and Mondays are slow.

3. It's so slow, that, after wandering around for 15 minutes, the chica in question still hasn't found a mark and returns to Mr. Q.

OK. Mr. Q, out of kindness and generosity, opens the negotiations at $60. Given the above facts, this is a very fair offer. Our chica spurns his generosity and counters with $80. (if this is her first day on the job, then it's snowing in Bangkok).

Now, the hard-core capitalist response is to counter with $50, pointing out that business is slow, your offer is time-limited and you're losing interest. The kinder, gentler capitalist will just stick firmly with $60. The newbie, thinking with his little head, will cave.

So, what are the possible outcomes of our excercise in naked capitalism? The chica can leave. Maybe she doesn't need the money because she gets $100 from every guy who walks in the door. In that case, you're better off. Mr. Q's had a good time, but, in Tijuana, price rarely equates to good performance, and, in fact, it's often the opposite. Or, the chica agrees and stays. In that case, you've saved enough to buy a shitload of beer. She may or may not be a starfish in bed, but at least it didn't cost you an arm and a leg to find out.

So, boys and girls, what's our take-away from this?

1. Always use pesos whenever possible.

2. Never accept the first offer, unless it's ridiculously low. Then grab it before she can change her mind. .

3. Remember that supply (chicas) always exceeds demand (customers). If you can't come to terms, kick her loose. There's another behind her waiting.

4. Never pay above the going rate, unless you have, personally, seen her suck a golf ball through 6 feet of garden hose.[/QUOTE]You are right in every way. I can't agree more. Lived in Mexico almost 3-years. They love to negotiate and expect it from Americans. Learning to say no and walk will pay dividends later.

[QUOTE=The Hammer1169;1298726]You are right in every way. I can't agree more. Lived in Mexico almost 3-years. They love to negotiate and expect it from Americans. Learning to say no and walk will pay dividends later.[/QUOTE]From your posts I see that you used to live in Mexicali. I lived in Mexicali from 2004 through 2011. We probably ran into each other several times. My name is Mike and am an old gringo that speaks Spanish pretty good.

[QUOTE=Quackup;1298366]First, why all of a sudden did the price go up so high?[/QUOTE]Not sure what is happening in HK, other than the girls are getting what they ask for. I met a real hottie on Friday and she played well in the booth and when I asked how much she wanted in order play in the room, and she stated 80 US. I said lady, you must be out of your damn mind! I countered with 700 pesos, which with that information; she pulled out her phone and started using the calculator. She countered with 1000 pesos.

I was running short on time because I was meeting friends later so I stood up, told her 700 pesos again, and if, just if, she was very hot, I might add a tip. She shook her head no and was surprised when I got up to leave and asked me where I was going. I told her I was headed to get one of my favorite SGs. And I left her with a thought. I told her 30-40 minutes from now; she would have had some money to put in her silly little purse. But as is stands, at least for a while, the purse would remain empty.

BAM!

These chicks need a lesson or 2 every once in a while.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1299862]And I left her with a thought. I told her 30-40 minutes from now; she would have had some money to put in her silly little purse. But as is stands, at least for a while, the purse would remain empty.[/QUOTE]

Finished work early today so decided to cruise down and see if one of the chicks I have been itching to bang is working the morning shift, tons of people crossing at the border, checked out a few chicks along the way but nothing worth while mentioning, since it was still early, decided to walk and save myself the 50 pesos for the taxi ride.

1) incidentally, I have been offering 50 pesos to the taxi drivers who for the most part accept it without any question, only exception was this one time last week when I offered a taxi libre guy and he said "aye, that's like. 3 dlls man" to which I said "well ok, if you don't want it that's fine, I will walk" to which he said "ah que bueno senor, vamos". Not sure if anyone else is getting by offering anything south of 5 dlls recently.

Walked into HK from the back door, took a while to adjust since it was pretty dark inside as usual but was pretty damn sunny out. I bought myself a drink and walked around and exchanged looks with some chicas along the way, a few caught my attention but no one that compelled me to make a move, I then headed to the front of the bar to sit, at some point, as I was scanning the crowd, I noticed a girl dancing smiling at me and I realized we knew each other, I have taken her upstairs for a good fuck before but we don't stay in touch much, I raised my glass as a greeting and she waved her hands at me, but I left it at that, didn't feel too strongly about getting close that the time, then I noticed her when upstairs to one of the booths for maybe 15 mins with some guy.

2) I know we talk about it alot here, but, what happens in those tiny rooms? They are not VIPs are they?

At some point, I noticed she was done and came back down but I chose to ignore her as she walked to the back, interestingly. 30 seconds later, a mesero came to me and told me that a girl was looking for me and asked if I wanted to join her, I was like "WTF, no girls summon me" but then I went anyway, just for the novelty, turned out was that girl and she made space for me to sit, and we started doing the usual BS chatting (she said she thought I was mad at her, etc, all that jazz) , anyway, after a few drinks, with my horrible spanish, I couldn't figure out if she said that we should go to VIP, where she will fuck me, or we should go VIP, so she is guaranteed the drinks, or something, but anyway, I wasn't about to spend extra money on the VIP since she has been rubbing my dick and giving me a hard-on, and I got just enough cash to do a fuck.

I asked her how much she wants, she smiled and said "80", and I looked at her from the corner of my eye, basically letting her know not to fuck with me, she should know better than that, so eventually we agreed to 100 for the hour (actually, I knew it was going to come to this, but I kind of used the haggling to see how she would react, given that we kind of know each other already). Before heading upstairs, she had 2 more drinks which she knew I was not quite pleased about, but whatever because

3) so it is becoming more common place for girls to start at 80, need all the bros to unite against this absurdity of a pricing and make sure we do try to think a little with out big heads a little

In the room, though we didn't take a shower together, it was definitely not a regular Tijuana fuck, she teased my balls, we did 69, she rubbed my dick bare to her clit for a long time, and even as I pounded her hard, she was moaning and sweating and asking me to go harder and don't come too soon, all great stuff, so despite the lack of a BBBJ and kissing (both of which shouldn't be expected anyway in the first place) , I think I had a pretty fucking good time.

4) some may say, well, its Monday afternoon, she should be giving you a great service if she expects a repeat.

Which, yeah sure, she and I had an interesting conversation after, she said its a lot hotter for her this time because she knows me now and is looking forward to us spending more time together, pffffttt, whatever.

Anyway, total damage with this chick is maybe. 7 8 drinks + 100 arriba + 300 pesos for the room. Not the most optimal, but considering that a busted a good nut, I think I came out ahead.

After that, cruised to adelitas real quick, and was pretty dead, so make a whirlwind round and jumped on the taxi.

5) today was my 1st day using my SENTRI pass, and it is well worth every penny and MORE, I zipped pass the line (which looks like an easy 90 min outside) , and then inside (which appeared to another easy 30 min wait) , in some sense, cruising pass immigration without the mindless wait seemed to feel as good (if not more) than the nut I just busted.

Overall, great Monday afternoon

The little rooms are the lap dance booths. Not sure what the current rate is, but something like $20 for a couple of songs. YMMV greatly. You may get just grinding, you may get FS, you will probably get somewhere between the two. Big waste of money, IMHO.

I fully agree that the price nuttiness needs to stop. The first thing to do is to start using pesos, and using a 10:1 rate. Start at no more than 600. Increase very grudgingly, no more than 700. Hour sessions should be 1, 000, plus a small tip. None of this is impossible. We just need to shoo them away once they whip out their calculators. If the dollar turns to shit, as it has in most other countries, and the peso suddenly gets stronger (well, it could happen) , I can guaran-damn-tee you that the prices will NOT come down from $80 once that price level is established, no matter what the exchange rate it.

Ficha drinks are a personal preference, and far be it from me to criticize, but 7 or 8 AND $100USD for an hour? Wow! She had a good night. :D

Despite my antipathy to all of the Gov't BS since 9/11, that SENTRI pass is invaluable. Cuts through all the bullshit. Worth every penny.

Oh, on a completely unrelated note, for those who complain about the chicas in Tijuana, here's a sampling of what seems to be on offer in Florida.

[url]http://winterhaven.wtsp.com/photo-gallery/crime/94257-online-prostitution-bust[/url]

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1299930]Ficha drinks are a personal preference, and far be it from me to criticize, but 7 or 8 AND $100USD for an hour? Wow! She had a good night. :D[/QUOTE]Yup, the only thing not making me ***** about it was because it was a great session and she wasn't ridiculous in pounding on the drinks, I let this one slide (this time anyway). On average I have a pretty good drink / time ratio with the chicas. The really good ones with me have taken as long as 1 hr to down 1 drink, no joke, I have seen meseros coming back to harass her (them) , and the really bad ones. 5 mins / drink and they don't last over 2 drinks. Good thing was that after the arriba, she did not appear to be in a hurry to leave, which is a pretty important sign to me because girls who are too eager to leave before the knock is a no-no. In fact, she was in no hurry to leave in at the 1st knock.

[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1299930]Oh, on a completely unrelated note, for those who complain about the chicas in Tijuana, here's a sampling of what seems to be on offer in Florida.

[url]http://winterhaven.wtsp.com/photo-gallery/crime/94257-online-prostitution-bust[/url][/QUOTE]Fuck, I just blinded myself, you need to put a disclaimer before a link like this.

:D

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak;1299919]Anyway, total damage with this chick is maybe. 7 8 drinks + 100 arriba + 300 pesos for the room. Not the most optimal, but considering that a busted a good nut, I think I came out ahead.[/QUOTE]God dammit dude! I thought Joe and I had you trained somewhat!

Joe, come out of retirement; the kid needs us!

7 to 8 drinks at $8. 00 each. 100us for arriba, fuck dude, she just paid off her mortgage!

Phordphan said it best, she had a really good night.

No worries, I still like you dude, concerned about you, but still like you nevertheless.

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak;1299919]so despite the lack of a BBBJ and kissing (both of which shouldn't be expected anyway in the first place) ,[/QUOTE]Both should be expected and if they don't happen then you should never repeat! I thought that I trained you better than that!

I would rather overpay a little bit, and have a good session, than pay the minimum and go home disappointed. Guys who try and find a SG who will do the deed for the cheapest price, must have a lot of leche, or live in HK.

Since I only get to Tijuana once / twice a year. 3.5 days a trip, each trip to the room is important. I don't like to take a chance with a girl who may be a dud, or a discount performer.

Always remember, your next leche may be your last. Give it the respect it deserves.