Phnom Penh

If you don't want to sit on the bus for 2 days (there and back) you may want to consider flying to SGN from BKK.
Air Asia will cost you some 3850 THB or under 120 USD.
That is what I am going to do

Why don't you consider taking a bus?

Capitol, Narin, Sorya and sevral other companies do the trip for a fraction of the flight-fare.

You can buy bus tickets (Sorya) from Phnom Penh to Ho Chi Minh City for $10. It takes six hours. I know, part of my business is selling bus tickets in Phnom Penh. The buses are comfortable with air-con...no chickens, no goats, no having to sit on the roof.

[QUOTE=Roguesta]You can buy bus tickets (Sorya) from Phnom Penh to Ho Chi Minh City for $10. It takes six hours. I know, part of my business is selling bus tickets in Phnom Penh. The buses are comfortable with air-con...no chickens, no goats, no having to sit on the roof.[/QUOTE]


Thanks guys, I think I'll be taking the bus. My friend said he didn't mind.
But what about the Visa? Will it be ok to use out visa by crossing over the border by land? Can we apply for the visa in Phnom Pehn? My friend thinks it's better to get the visa from Thailand.


Honestly, I did have the chickens in the bus visions in my mind. I took a train in Thailand once. On the way from Bangkok to Burriam it was just fine and great. On the way back I could only catch the low priced train. I had to stand many hours until a seat opened up and there were chickens and animals and people walking by selling smelly things. It was a horrible... 8 hours if I remember right
Thanks again

[QUOTE=Gagoo]Thanks guys, I think I'll be taking the bus. My friend said he didn't mind.
But what about the Visa? Will it be ok to use out visa by crossing over the border by land? Can we apply for the visa in Phnom Pehn? My friend thinks it's better to get the visa from Thailand.


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I just answer your question about the bus in the Viet thread but notice you didn't include the visa question there, so I'll answer it here for you.

If you hold an American passport( or for most foreign passports), then you must get the Viet. visa in advance as only locals from several asian countries do not need visas or could get them at the border. If you do not have the Viet visa, you will be turned back at the border-- not a good thing.

Forget about Thailand, as it is much easier and quicker to get the Viet visa in PP. There are 2 ways to get the visa.
1) go to the Viet embassy yourself and apply for the visa, usually drop off today and pick up tomorrow (or even same day if things are slow at the embassy)
2) just go to any travel agent office you see (or even ask at your hotel if they will process Viet visa) the cost will be the same or even cheaper by a few dollars--don't know why though? as going to Viet embassy yourself but this way will save on the RT moto cost and time.
Timing is about the same, drop off today and pick up tomorrow.

PT

The Sorya bus station is less than a block from the southwest corner of Central Market.

Had a couple of days in Phnom Penh recently. As I was with company, I could not head out to the lady bars at will. So confined myself to places I could remember with quick and easy access to the old pnp.

Luxury World hotel has a massage place upstairs where you can pick from several nationalities - see previous descriptions by other posters. Picked a Khmer who has nice figure for regular massage $5. (VIP room with jaqoosie is $8 and maybe that is better as reports say that the massage is never that great anyway).

Half way through a very so-so experience, asked if boom boom was available. Sure it was. No mention about price. Instead of putting a towel over the window in the door, she switched out the light so that I could see nothing. No blow job but I was good and ready by that stage anyway. Service was basic and not really GFE (absolutely no kissing) but she was tight. After shower I gave her $20 and she made a face but could not speak English. Gave her another bunch of singles 9about $4) and kept walking. I always pay when I have my shoes on and am ready to walk!

Le Circee only opens after 6pm but it is still run by the same French speaking guy who also speaks English. As I did not have much time, I picked out a Khmer dressed in red with long slightly curly hair - made her look faintly South American.

No going upstairs any more. Now have to go around the corner which can cause problems if you do not want to be seen. The guest house was almost better than my hotel and I am not exactly sure but I think it cost $7 extra. The lady was also young and appeared to be less than interested at first although she was nice and looked real good with slightly darker skin.

Started off with a bj without being asked. No problem with daty or playing around with her pussy. All positions were available and the light was on. Only problem was that she was hot and tight with good muscle control and I could not postpone blast off. During the deed, she got really into it and at one stage I thought she might tear the sheets.

Back at the bar, it was $5 for drinks (you have to pay for one girly drink), $20 for her and $7 for the GS for an hour. I gave her an extra $5 tip for good service with was accepted wth appreciation. So different from Luxury World.

I still prefer the ladybars - there is one on street 136 - the last one on the rhs in that block near the river and I think it is called the 99 bar. In previous years I pulled a couple of long-termers out of that bar. Always got better service and fun than in the in-house establishments.

[QUOTE=Wendella]From what I've seen, and I've never been in Cambodia more than a month, the Khmer girls there are generally chestier than ones in Vietnam or Thailand.[/QUOTE]So true; Khmer ladies are definitely thicker not only in the bust but also in the backside as evidenced by my ex.g.f. in the included pic.

I'll be in PNH in February for about a week, second year running.
Early this year I stayed at Flamingos and mongered at the Walkabout, Sharkys, Le Circee etc.
I had some fantastic massages right opposite Flamingos, but strictly legit. The girl, under 5', very cute and doable and strong like a wrestler, did not even hesitate at my offer of $50, while performing miracles with my back in my room.
So what I am looking for are MPs or similar venues with extensive special services (as opposd to the pick-up places above)
The Luxury World Hotel seems a worth while tip, but there must be many others.
Relevant info would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Daddy San]I'll be in PNH in February for about a week, second year running.
Early this year I stayed at Flamingos and mongered at the Walkabout, Sharkys, Le Circee etc.
I had some fantastic massages right opposite Flamingos, but strictly legit. The girl, under 5', very cute and doable and strong like a wrestler, did not even hesitate at my offer of $50, while performing miracles with my back in my room.
So what I am looking for are MPs or similar venues with extensive special services (as opposd to the pick-up places above)
The Luxury World Hotel seems a worth while tip, but there must be many others.
Relevant info would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]

I think Luxury World is hit and miss. At least you get a choice between vietnamese, local and chinese. I did not choose VIP room at $8 but I think you ought to consider that as it may be free of large windows on the door.

About 4 years ago, found a couple of places that did massage - one around the corner of Walkabout - turn right out of WA and turn right around the corner and it is on RHS a few meters away. Although there is a fish bowl, not much choice and some do not do FS for $20. Tried another which was west of the central market (the one near Circee). Had an ok experience but not great.

I think that the city needs some more massage places where FS is on offer for those who cannot get out and about so easily. But if you are free and easy, it is very easy to pick up a girl in PP - just go to a few bars or even check out the strictly legit massage places and make a date with the girl for afterwards. Always ask first where she is from (best if she is from out of town and no family to bother her). Most Cambodian girls will put out if you are a gentleman and treat them right.

Thanks for your reply, Simian,
when I did my research for my first trip to Cambodia in February 2008, there were a number if quite informative FRs by Lord Smutty, which have since disapperaed, either by accident or by censorship. I quote from one of the defunct reports:

So I decided to try my luck in one of the foot massage parlours on Monivong...[b]There are many of these parlours along Monivong to explore[/b].
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Another great spot to let the fur fly is the street#49 (same street that Cyrcee and Mikado are on). If you come out of Cyrcee, turn right and head over street #136 until you find yourself in a [b]stretch of brightly lit parlours[/b]
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Now Monivong is quite long, but I went up and down in a tuk tuk twice on different days and could not find a single likely venue.
I don't actually remember searching along street #49, but I do remember not having found a single fucking MP (pun intended!).
The one opposite Flamingos is quite nice but strictly legit, not even private rooms.
I am sure, there are MPs with serious extras available, all over the place, since it seems to be part of the culture in SE Asia
So I repeat my question(s):

Where are they?
Whereabout on Monivong are they?
Are those supposedly "brightly lit parlours" on #49 real?

Try Paradise Massage on street 136 looks like a big hotel just a block or two off Nordom towards the river.

Sim card info.

I got a Hello sim card from the Airport. $5 for the card, then bought minutes. It's a good network sure, but it's expensive. Why? Because the ladies call you and hang up, then you call them back and getting charged up the ass per minute. The best part of "Hello" is that you get a confirmation on SMS when it's received. If she has her phone off you'll know it, and once she turns it on you'll get the sms confirmation.

[url]http://www.hello.com.kh/[/url]

All the ladies seem to use Cellcard, so that's the one I recommend. Just ask the hotel where to get one, they are everywhere and seem to be the most affordable.

[url]http://www.cellcard.com.kh/cccust_rates_new09.php[/url]

Unlocking a phone.

I couldn't unlock my phone no matter what I did. Here's the place I used, they speak English

Place : Citifone

Location : #33 on Street 128 (Kampuchea Krom Blvd)

Here's my info and experiences about Hotel and Motorbikes and Tuktuk...

While in Phnom Penh I stayed at Flamingos Hotel. My 1st complaint is they said they'd send a driver to pick me up, well the airport is small and there was no driver holding a paper with my name on it. I waited an hour, then took a $9 taxi to the hotel. The hotel said the driver was there but didn't see me (I call bullshit). My 2nd complaint is their internet is slow, but they have internet and that's important. I have no other complaints.

The staff is friendly, pool table is ok, happy hour $1 beer from 4-8pm, guest friendly. Maid staff were flirty and fun to talk with. Paid $25 a night for the standard room which was the best value in my opinion. I saw all rooms and the only difference seemed to be the size of the room but same quality. The $35 room had a bath tub with shower nozzle. Others just a shower only.

They don't take or check IDs of girls. But if you don't walk down with them the front desk will call your room to make sure things are ok before she leaves.

Motobike and tuk tuk drivers outside of Flamingos are aggressive because they're running up to you as you walk out and they seem to ask for $1 more than the guys even a block away. Kind of annoying. I ended up getting 3 guys I can trust with fair prices and used them most of the time and got their phone numbers. They would even wait outside for me and not charge extra for waiting a few hours for me, I'm using them frequently. Also if I was going to be x amount of hours I would call them to pick me up or tell them to come back at a certain time so they can still have other business.

Here are some transportation prices from Flamingos/Walkabout or surrounding areas to go to Sharky's or Martini etc.

Me + 1 person on tuk tuk = $2
Me + 2 or 3 people on tuk tuk = $3.
Me with or without a person on a motobike = $1

Sharky's to Martini, I either bargain or use a guy I know or...

Tuk tuk add $1

Motorbike add $0.50-$1

About the motorbike or tuk tuks - there isn't that much business for them right now. It's not so busy and they're all fighting over $1. But if you take one some place, they're all friendly with you and usually they'll want more money because they're "Waiting for you" and couldn't take another customer. I don't care for that. It happened a few times from 3 drivers outside Flamingos. Then happened only 1 time from some driver outside Sorya market. To avoid the problem you can take a guy you trust or just get dropped off and not have them wait because there are drivers everywhere.

I know a dependable guy that has a motorbike, tuk tuk, and access to a car. If you're interested in his contact info PM me.

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[QUOTE=D Cups]Is it scenic? I may do this, too.[/QUOTE]


Not what I call scenic as after the first 30min or so its the same same for the next 5-6hrs.(note:it'll take about 45min-1hr just to get out of the city limits with traffic)
Do the ride to get to HCMC and thats about it. But as PT said for $10 or so its cheap enough.

Shark

What I understand from a local chinese businessman is that all massage places do offer sex. It is just that for foreigners they come across as legit.
But if you are regular and trust you they might offer more than a massage.
Everybody knows they hardly make any money by doing massage only.