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[QUOTE=WintersLight;3019091]A quick on-the-ground field report from a week-long trip to BKK in late July / early August, 2025, including both places visited and enjoyed, and places that I just walked into quickly, then left due to limited lineups or strange vibes. General observations: pretty quiet in the city right now, except in Don Quixote, which had more people going in and out than the Emquartier on a weekend.
[/QUOTE]What an excellent overview.
[QUOTE=Francesco24;3018996]My experience with her was quite the opposite honestly.
While surely she is cute with a funny / joking personality, the BJ was covered and while her technique was decent she went at it for just a couple of minutes.
Would not repeat nor suggest her to anyone who cares about BJ at least.[/QUOTE]Did you ever get a good service from a Thai working girl?
Your posting history suggest that you're consistantly receiveing below average (or even bad service) from a lot of girls in different places.
It might be good to post on your good experiences too, otherwise people will be quick to conclude you are a big part of the problems you're facing.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;3019085]Not the experience you want to have at Mango.[/QUOTE]The reputation of Mango being a PSE shop might be something from the past.
Now that they are trying to bring some cute young girls in their lineup, the service seems to be very limited with some of the girls.
At least that was my experience a year ago with two of their good looking girls, so much that now I'm more reluctant to get in the place.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;3019085]Not the experience you want to have at Mango. But quite worrying, in the sense that, every-time I go into that street, I see a lot more Asians and with that will come the Asian-oriented service levels.
What I mean by that is that they're ok with starfishes, as long as they look good. Farangs aren't so much into necrophilia (figure of speech) and prefer a more "participative" experience.
Would she get better? Sure, but it depends on her attitude and getting more dicks-in isn't going to help her change that much.
One good thing going for her is that she is self conscious about STD's and insists on covered sex.[/QUOTE]Well, everyone is new at some point. If she's still like this after a couple more weeks, there may be a problem, but for now I think it's just her being new and perhaps not having had sex all that much, especially with non-asians.
Maybe I also made her sound a bit more starfishy than she really was. There are starfishes around, but she was not one. Just was having some trouble with size.
I would not worry. ;-)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;3019085]Not the experience you want to have at Mango. But quite worrying, in the sense that, every-time I go into that street, I see a lot more Asians and with that will come the Asian-oriented service levels.[/QUOTE]"The top 10 countries sending tourists to Thailand during the first six months of the year: Malaysia led the way with more than 2. 29 million visitors, followed closely by China with 2. 26 million. India came in third with 1. 18 million, ahead of Russia's 1. 03 million and South Korea's 772,000. The UK and the US followed with 572,000 and 551,000 tourists respectively, while Japan, Taiwan, and Laos rounded out the top ten. ".
[URL]https://www.pattayamail.com/news/its-not-the-europeans-but-hold-on-data-reveals-whos-really-powering-pattaya-tourism-in-2025-508317[/URL]
So that's 2,100,000 farang tourists vs roughly 10,000,000 from Asia.
Everything suggests this trend will continue.
Surprise surprise I was horny again. And decided to go to Exotic massage on Sukhumvit 20.
No booking, just walked in.
The place looks nice but very business-like.
I chose the Standard room for 60 mn (no need to book more as it's a 1 shot only place). 2. 2 K damage.
Picked a girl for her breast size and (my mistake for not asking) they were man-made.
The room looks very nice and after a mechanical wash in the shower, I made my way to the bed while she finished her shower.
When she came out (wrapped in a towel) she asked me to flip face down. No honey, I'm not here for a massage and certainly not with only 60 mn session.
She got the hint and laid me back to lick my nipples, does nothing for me so pushed her shoulders a little towards my groin and she understood.
Told her to go slow with the BJ but she had a mind of her own and went a little harder than I would have liked (that must be her one-technique).
Was already preparing myself for yet another average session seeing how average the BJ was but she made me eat my words. Sex was great and she was enthusiastic, a lot more lively than with the BJ.
(BJ was a BBBJ in case you were wondering).
She was tight and after a nice doggy I blew my load in the condom (40 mn) so I was early. Hopped in the shower, and left a little earlier than what I booked. Was not asked why we finished early. Just a thank you and I left.
Would I repeat? Yes, I like the place and the room, but I won't repeat with the same girl. Next time I will ask for a girl that can do good BBBJ.
Didn't even ask if they do CIM but my guess is they may for an extra fee.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;3019145]The reputation of Mango being a PSE shop might be something from the past.
Now that they are trying to bring some cute young girls in their lineup, the service seems to be very limited with some of the girls.
At least that was my experience a year ago with two of their good looking girls, so much that now I'm more reluctant to get in the place.[/QUOTE]Yes, I think so as well, they largely cater to the growing Asian clientele and for that they need young attractive girls.
Us older foreigners don't mind an older girl.
Hell, I used to be a regular of RIN, she was in her 60's a decade ago but still performed well.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;3019308]Surprise surprise I was horny again. And decided to go to Exotic massage on Sukhumvit 20.
No booking, just walked in.
The place looks nice but very business-like.
I chose the Standard room for 60 mn (no need to book more as it's a 1 shot only place). 2. 2 K damage.
Picked a girl for her breast size and (my mistake for not asking) they were man-made.
The room looks very nice and after a mechanical wash in the shower, I made my way to the bed while she finished her shower.
When she came out (wrapped in a towel) she asked me to flip face down. No honey, I'm not here for a massage and certainly not with only 60 mn session..[/QUOTE]They have a reputation for 'outcalls' they have a very glossy website just for that. So curious when you went into the shop did you get a line-up or was it pick from a tablet only? What I am thinking is looking at some girls in the flesh with a view of booking an outcall for later.
At 50+, you'the think my libido would be slower. But it has its ups / downs and right now is an UP period.
So, here I am, watching Netflix at home and all it took was a sex scene (no kidding) to make junior whisper "let's go, let's go, let's go". Alright off we go, on the prowl.
I'm an oily guy so obviously I'm going to go to a massage place. Dilemma is, do I want a proper massage + gratification or just sex?
Before even asking Junior (yeah, we're close like that), sex it is.
Living in Phrom pong means I have a plethora of places to choose from, from the seediness of soy 22 to the upscale places of soi 33.
Now comes dilemma #2: known or unknown? Old or new place? Repeat with a girl I know, or take the risk with a new girl?
Yes, such are the hard decisions a Bangkok expat has to take. Tough, but I prefer this to what Helmut from Nuremberg has to face (all tongue-in-cheek. Of course).
New it is, New place and New girl: The seedy soi 22 it is!
Took the walk down and ended up in a sub soi where all the massage places have the same owner: Bangkok PASSION was my choice.
Very nice lady welcomed me with a big smile! Told her it's my first time at Passion although I Live in BKK.
Lineup called, quite a few girls made their way (from all the shops I believe) and I set my sights on a not so young looking girl (late 30's early 40's) with a body that was shapely and would make for a great Body-to-body.
Wasn't sure if this place offers multiple shots in a 90 mn session (and silly me, I did not ask). I went for the 60 mn Oil B2B & Full service for 2,500.
This is a typical small-business, side street massage shop so do not expect the luxury of a "Cube massage" but I was surprised the bed is a little larger than a single bed and a huge mirror on the bed wall, very nice!
I won't say the girl's name for privacy reasons, but the upside of being in such a place, and with an older lady provider, you are instantly comfortable and the girl knows exactly what to do.
This girl was great, maybe it's experience, maybe training, but the eye contact, the way she used her body, the BBBJ and she sex was just all done into one smooth experience. Like a concert, orchestrated exactly the way it should be.
She was in charge and I was being completely pampered, I did not have to say a thing. It's like she was reading my mind.
I did not expect the session and place to be this good. I will certainly be back, maybe in another shop in the street to see the difference in rooms. And another girl to see if it was a fluke or all girls are high service, but I left a very happy customer.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;3019308]When she came out (wrapped in a towel) she asked me to flip face down. No honey, I'm not here for a massage and certainly not with only 60 mn session.
She got the hint and laid me back to lick my nipples, does nothing for me so pushed her shoulders a little towards my groin and she understood.[/QUOTE]This is the local experience I lacked in my first Bangkok MP experience. First full day here I walked up Sukhumvit from soi 4 to soi 8. Wandered down and I thought I recalled positive reviews of 8 Fantasy, but can't find anything now.
I felt like it was best to just go with the flow on my first MP visit, so I chose from the tablet rather than ask for a line-up, and tipped mamasan for her recommendation. Chose Kim Mee or Kimmy or something, who was pretty enough, but who delivered an uninspired session. Pretty clear from the start that she has her process, so let her deliver a sub-par massage. On the flip she finally worked her way down, and by the time she got me hard with her hand and some body to body (more like body to dick) she slipped on a rubber and was giving me a CBJ, which was disappointing to say the least. After a minute or so she hopped on for a ride, which she did reasonably well, followed by mish and doggy, where she slapped my hand away as soon as a finger wandered between her cheeks. Busted, cleaned up, and went up the block for a noodle bowl, which was a much better value at 70 baht.
2500 plus a modest tip for 60 minutes. Room was clean with a nice sized bed, and the facility was fine, but seems like there are far better options.
[QUOTE=JayWonEm;3019615]2500 plus a modest tip for 60 minutes. Room was clean with a nice sized bed, and the facility was fine, but seems like there are far better options.[/QUOTE]Why did you tip her for mediocre service? Or am I misreading something?
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3018653]What I stated is what mamasans say when I have asked about BBFSCIP. Pay the 2000 directly to the girl in the room. That doesn't mean that you can't arrange something different in the room privately. Maybe less surcharge. Maybe more surcharge from a girl who previously says no. Some girls don't want their coworkers to know they do BBFS.
Approval of me has come in two forms after I ask mamasan for BBFSCIP. First, mamasan arranges private lineup for me after the girls see me and know it is BBFSCIP. Second, mamasan will ask the girls on display and the agreeable girls raise their hands and then I make my choice. Never have I been asked for STD or vasectomy test results.
Some time ago the Butterfly website (and maybe others) had specific identification of girls who did BBFS for the 2000 baht surcharge. Now, the same section of each girl's profile says to ask about services at the shop.
That's about as official as anything in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information.
I went by a sex shop earlier this week. Not one of those two you just mentioned. Chose an ok-ish girl in hear early twenties as I was too lazy to walk to another shop. We seemed to have decent enough rapport, and with me fresh out out hair saloon, looking as handsome as ever, I thought BBFS would not be the biggest problem. She however responded, rather matter of factly, that that would be 2,000 extra. I offered 1000, but she rejected. Asked me for 1500? I rejected that too. Had she been really hot I might have agreed to 2,000, but in this case, no.
Oh well, on with the dong, but I wasn't feeling all that aroused anymore, and she sensed that, so she asked me if I wanted without condom. I told her yes, but if she did not want, it was ok. She continued for bit, but then took of the condom and continued without.
The slightly interesting thing happened before leaving the room afterwards. She took the trouble to make a couple of tries to speak into google translate on her phone to get the translation she wanted to show me:
"don't tell mama you paid me 1000 for no condom". I said of course not, but was a bit curious as to exactly why not.
Q1: mamasan does not want you to have sex without condom?
A1: no, it's ok, but have to tell mamasan first, and have to pay 2000.
Q2: if I pay mamasan 2000, how much money do you get afterwards? Does mamasan take some of the money?
A2: no, I get all the money, but have to pay 2000.
So I deduce there has been a meeting of the hookers union of lower sukhumvit in Bangkok, There they have set the official no-condom price at 2,000. For that reason I can obviously name neither shop nor girl, as I don't want to risk the girl getting kicked out of the union because of my loose lipps.
[QUOTE=WintersLight;3019091]A quick on-the-ground field report from a week-long trip to BKK in late July / early August, 2025, including both places visited and enjoyed, and places that I just walked into quickly, then left due to limited lineups or strange vibes. General observations: pretty quiet in the city right now.[/QUOTE]What an AWESOME report! Thanks for posting.
I've read a few reports of fellows who request a massage in the type of shop that usually / always results in a HJ offer, but at a critical moment, the fellow entices the girl to kiss, straddle him or even fuck. All this is done in a manner to ensure consent from the girl. I'm intrigued! Any tips / stories on how to pull this off successfully?
[QUOTE=TKOman;3019706]I've read a few reports of fellows who request a massage in the type of shop that usually / always results in a HJ offer, but at a critical moment, the fellow entices the girl to kiss, straddle him or even fuck. All this is done in a manner to ensure consent from the girl. I'm intrigued! Any tips / stories on how to pull this off successfully?[/QUOTE]If you're talking about a regular massage place with HJ extras, one way that I found got me good results is when she offers HJ (usually by placing her hand on your package), tell her you don't like with hand, ask her if she can do body to body.
1. She says no = let her resume the massage.
2. She says yes = you can take it from there. She will rub herself on you and your hands will be all over her. Get her aroused and whisper in her ear you want sex.
Many girls will not be used to doing these and may ask "how much you give me"? Means she is considering doing it for the right financial motivation.